[12:00] <Flannel> theBeno: The alternate ISO has an option to install lilo, and you can just install lilo as well.
[12:01] <xav> theBeno: in any case, you don't remove anything, you just install the one you want
[12:01] <Adam> can I have an applicatin (gVim) start in a maximized window or fullscreen mode?
[12:01] <marta> hablais ingles??
[12:01] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, man update-rc.d, to you too :)
[12:01] <ala1> installing new video driver, need to do from pure command line...how do I exit the x server completely
[12:01] <pfein> eyequeue: ah, thanks (coming from gentoo, things are named differently)
[12:01] <sethk> theBeno, running the lilo utility does it for you.  you'll need a correct lilo.conf file.
[12:01] <xav> theBeno: grub should be fine btw
[12:01] <DJGummikuh> eyequeue: hehe :)
[12:01] <Inash> need help!
[12:02] <nozorro> marta: por favor, vete a #ubuntu-es como ya te dijimos
[12:02] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, and you'd want it in "all of them" probably
[12:02] <marta> yo no se hablar ingles,yo soy espaola
[12:02] <Flannel> !es
[12:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:02] <eyequeue> !es > marta
[12:02] <Flannel> marta: /join #ubuntu-es
[12:02] <surgy> ok this isnt funny anymore
[12:02] <ala1> installing new video driver, need to do from pure command line...how do I exit the x server completely
[12:02] <surgy> can someone plese take a look at this?
[12:03] <sethk> surgy, when was it funny?
[12:03] <eyequeue> ala1, invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[12:03] <theBeno> xav, I have grub but in conflicts with my Toshiba Host Protected Area.
[12:03] <eyequeue> ala1, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[12:03] <surgy> sethk when i had my thirdmember in my hand
[12:03] <theBeno> So it won't boot the kernel.
[12:03] <surgy> sethk: mind if i pm you some errors?
[12:03] <Inash> synaptic package manager gives me an error saying bad header : W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/libstdc++6-4.0-dev_4.0.3-1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[12:03] <Inash>   Bad header line
[12:03] <Inash> what is the problem ?
[12:03] <Adam> sethk, before someone got their eye poked out ;)
[12:03] <Flannel> surgy: no need to get lude.  pastebin them and post the link.
[12:03] <theBeno> xav, I just want to try lilo.
[12:03] <sethk> surgy, I don't mind, but more people will see it in the channel
[12:03] <surgy> ok
[12:03] <nozorro> Inash: use a different mirror
[12:04] <Inash> ok
[12:04] <ala1> eyequeue is that from the command line within x?
[12:04] <xav> oh that crap
[12:04] <eyequeue> ala1, no, from real command line, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[12:04] <xav> this reminds me I remove the stupid stuff that comes with ibm thinkpad when I got it
[12:04] <theBeno> xav, Thanks for the help.
[12:04] <theBeno> I'll be back if I have more questions. :P
[12:04] <eyequeue> ala1, it would work from a terminal too i suppose
[12:05] <xav> I think I installed linux and deleted the ibm restore partition, and I only find out now that it didn't come with a windows cd
[12:05] <xav> there is no way I can get windows back for giving the laptop to someone else
[12:06] <lupine_85> xav: you'd need to contact IBM and see what their policy is
[12:06] <Adam> hehe, I got vim running inside  a shell running inside emacs. insanity!
[12:06] <eyequeue> why not give a ubuntu laptop?  i have
[12:06] <xav> lupine_85: right, I can maybe ask for a restore cd
[12:06] <nozorro> Adam: indeed
[12:06] <xav> eyequeue: I would probably set up dual boot
[12:07] <grimx> ok i created a symbolic directory of (libjavaplugin_oji.so) to my (mozilla plugins directory) and i still can't view java enabled pages
[12:07] <eyequeue> xav, weird, i'd never give ms, i'd consider it an insult :)
[12:07] <xav> eyequeue: that's what I did on all my family pc
[12:07] <xav> eyequeue: well, it seems many ppl are more happy with it
[12:07] <eyequeue> xav, the recipeints of the ubuntu laptop are happy with it, rather than confused by the conflicting stuff, i guess you'd say
[12:08] <Adam> Emacs is still the most convenient shell there is, of course not for running Vim inside it.
[12:08] <xav> eyequeue: and others require it for various things, like job or some windows only apps
[12:08] <Flannel> Adam: emacs is an operating system, not a text editor.
[12:08] <nwbreneman> Hi, how do I keep my mounted external media drives from showing on my desktop?
[12:09] <eyequeue> xav, none here require ms, so perhaps your people differ
[12:09] <lupine_85> hehe
[12:09] <Flannel> grimx: did you install sun-java5-plugin?
[12:09] <nozorro> nwbreneman: you can change that in the config. editor in gnome
[12:09] <Adam> Flannel, I don't think the other parts (mail reader, newsgroups, etc.) are still viable nowadays, but the shell definitely rocks.
[12:09] <nwbreneman> Thanks Nozorro
[12:09] <xav> eyequeue: maybe so :)
[12:09] <grimx> need help with jre
[12:09] <Adam> too bad for all those man years wasted on maintaining ng readers written in elisp.
[12:09] <Mportnoy> Hello I have my iptables log configure to LOG , but my console screen is not usable with all that info on display how can modify that?
[12:10] <xav> Adam: what do you mean, I use bash as a shell, I thought most linux users did
[12:10] <xav> zsh is nice also
[12:10] <Flannel> grimx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:10] <Adam> xav, if you run bash inside emacs (as an inferior mode), you get lots of cool extra perks.
[12:10] <skizzo> does anyone have any experience with proftpd?
[12:10] <xav> ah
[12:11] <Adam> e.g. you can disable line truncation, travel easily all over the screen, great copy/paste, word completion...
[12:11] <Adam> Mportnoy, what's the problem exactly? you want to view a lot of long lines?
[12:11] <grimx> flannel --- i create a symbolic link of my libjavaplugin_oji.so in mozilla plugin directory and it stil don't work
[12:12] <grimx> -- mozilla plugins dir
[12:12] <sethk> surgy, I only needed to see the first few lines.  let's abort that paste and start again, it could go on all night
[12:12] <Mportnoy> Adam: I dont want to see that info on the syslog file , I want a sepate file for iptables log , is this posible ?
[12:13] <Adam> Mportnoy, ah, you mean you want two processes that currently log to the same file, to log to seperate files instead.
[12:13] <nozorro> Mportnoy: use the option --log-level info
[12:13] <Adam> Mportnoy, I just wanted to clarify your question, merely a newbie myself.
[12:14] <Mportnoy> nozorro: where is that ?
[12:14] <sethk> Mportnoy, look at ULOG in man iptables
[12:14] <sethk> Adam, I think he just wants to separate iptables info from all other info
[12:14] <xav> Adam: we are all newbies, probably just at different levels :)
[12:15] <nozorro> Mportnoy: wherever in the script you are creating the chain
[12:15] <sethk> Mportnoy, ULOG doesn't remove the info from syslog, but it does give you a way to duplicate it elsewhere
[12:15] <lostboyz> hi has anyone here had success with gyachi and webcam support?
[12:16] <Mportnoy> Sethk: how can I remove it ?
[12:16] <MrFeetio> hello
[12:16] <MrFeetio> !gamepark
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamepark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <surgy> ok here is the errors i get
[12:16] <surgy> when i try fglrxinfo
[12:16] <surgy> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[12:17] <surgy> flannel, can you give me any info on this? http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[12:17] <surgy> can anyone give me any info on the following errors http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php i got these when trying to run fglrxinfo
[12:17] <surgy> sethk: pm?
[12:17] <MrFeetio> !gp2x
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gp2x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <surgy> sethk: i pmed you again
[12:17] <VonGuard> hello
[12:17] <VonGuard> i have a dapper laptop, and want to move the user info and files to a new dapper laptop
[12:17] <VonGuard> what's the bext way to do this?
[12:17] <Flannel> surgy: that's not the url
[12:18] <optimusprime> how do you update firefox to the latest version?
[12:18] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know of a way to sync evolution with google calendar?
[12:18] <matthew_w> Can someone please help me configure NAIL so I can send messages with command line, I'vebeen trying for like three days.
[12:18] <surgy> flannel: its not? cuz i could have sworn that i copy pasted it
[12:18] <matthew_w> It seems you have to be the absolute throbbing head lord of linux to send a piece of mail from command line.
[12:19] <Flannel> surgy: right, but then you'll get another url, that'll look like garbage on the end
[12:19] <lostboyz> hi has anyone here had success with gyachi and webcam support?
[12:19] <nozorro> VonGuard: you create an archive of the home dir and then unpack in the new home dir. you need to reset permissions if the new user is different from the old one though
[12:19] <gomek> sb_email.exe
[12:19] <gomek> =D
[12:19] <VonGuard> ok
[12:19] <VonGuard> thanks
[12:19] <surgy> flannel ok let me try again
[12:20] <Adam> matthew_w, or you could write a Ruby/Python/Perl script in 2 minutes to do that for you :)
[12:20] <m1ckeyknox> can't remember... how do I search for a package in apt?
[12:20] <Adam> m1ckeyknox, apt-cache search -n
[12:21] <lostboyz> does anyone here run gyach?
[12:21] <nwbreneman> Okay, apparently I'm too thick to find the setting to disable the icon for mounted media on my desktop. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[12:21] <nwbreneman> In the configuration editor, that is.
[12:21] <ala1> how do I make sure my video driver is taking advantage of my hardware
[12:21] <nozorro> nwbreneman: open Applications > Syst. Tools > Config. Editor ...
[12:21] <nwbreneman> Got that part :) Now where?
[12:22] <surgy> still waiting on pastebin
[12:22] <matthew_w> Adam; not without first configuring 11 mailservers, mta's, and other things I completely don't understand
[12:22] <matthew_w> Adam; nor do I understand how to write any of those languages
[12:22] <matthew_w> Why can't I just send an email X_X
[12:22] <Adam> matthew_w, hm?  just get a POP3 accout somewhere
[12:22] <Adam> or Gmail
[12:22] <matthew_w> Adam; from a command line.
[12:22] <nozorro> nwbreneman: now go to apps/nautilus/desktop
[12:23] <nwbreneman> Okay, I see it now. THANK you!
[12:23] <nozorro> nwbreneman: and change 'volumes_visible'
[12:23] <nwbreneman> Enjoy yourself!
[12:23] <Adam> hm, where's that Config. Editor?
[12:23] <Adam> I don't see it in Applications...
[12:24] <sethk> Adam, grep rc from your ~/.bash_history file
[12:24] <nozorro> Adam: editor for config. settings as enforced by gnome backend gconf
[12:24] <moparfan90> hello is there a way to change the font of 'applications places system' to white? or any color?
[12:24] <Nipoc> Moparfan: i believe so
[12:25] <Nipoc> Moparfan: have you looked through all the themes stuff in system/prefs?
[12:25] <moparfan90> you know how to?
[12:25] <nozorro> Adam: gconf-editor from the command line
[12:25] <moparfan90> sort of
[12:25] <Nipoc> Moparfan:what colour are yours now?
[12:26] <surgy> wtf
[12:26] <moparfan90> yeah.. theres nothing.. i just want to chnage the color.. no everyting
[12:26] <surgy> man
[12:26] <moparfan90> black
[12:26] <surgy> im still waiting on pastebin
[12:26] <moparfan90> i want gray or white
[12:26] <Adam> nozorro, it works from the CL. wonder why it's not in the "Applications" menu; appearantly I don't have "Syst. Tools" at all
[12:26] <surgy> why is it so slow
[12:26] <surgy> they have lik 1 kb of bandwidth?
[12:26] <Nipoc> morparfan: gimme a min; i need to login 2 me linux boz
[12:26] <Laks|Xeno> Anyone help me with a video problem?
[12:27] <aztracker1> okay glx/compiz is evil..
[12:27] <nozorro> Adam: check out Apps > Accessories > Alacarte Menu Editor so see where it is on your system. should be installed by default
[12:27] <moparfan90> nipoc, ok thanks
[12:27] <jared777> I am having trouble getting sound in flash movies.. I have got it working once or twice but then it just stops working again.  Sound for EVERYTHING else works fine
[12:27] <Flannel> !tell surgy about pastebin
[12:27] <Flannel> surgy: use ubuntus, it's generally faster
[12:27] <Adam> nozorro, ah, it was hidden! thanks
[12:28] <nozorro> Adam: yw
[12:28] <Adam> sethk, you mean like so? -> "grep rc .bash_history". nothing interesting, why?
[12:28] <ala1> just changed video card was NVIDIA GE force 2, 32mb now  GE force 4 128mb ...there is no driver for Ubuntu kernal how do I make sure my current driver is supporting the capabilities of my new device
[12:28] <sethk> Adam, grep rc ~/.bash_history
[12:28] <sethk> because the command has rc in it, and if you ran it, you'll find it that way
[12:29] <jared777> Any ideas how i can go about gettin sound in FLASH movies so i can visit sits like youtube.com?
[12:29] <Laks|Xeno> anyone know whether or not ubuntu will even boot on a mac with an ATI X850?
[12:29] <moparfan90> yes it will
[12:29] <moparfan90> i have a ati x800gto..
[12:29] <moparfan90> new drivers are very good
[12:29] <Laks|Xeno> anytime i try to leave text only it just goes black
[12:29] <Laks|Xeno> you on a mac moparfan90?
[12:30] <nozorro> Adam: you can also do this from the CL to fetch from the history: '!rc'
[12:30] <moparfan90> no.. but im sure its the same
[12:30] <Adam> sethk, ah, ok :)
[12:30] <ala1> just changed video card was NVIDIA GE force 2, 32mb now  GE force 4 128mb ...there is no driver for Ubuntu kernal how do I make sure my current driver is supporting the capabilities of my new device...anyone?
[12:30] <surgy> man is there another website that does this?
[12:30] <surgy> other than pastebin
[12:30] <surgy> becuase pastebin is sucking
[12:31] <Laks|Xeno> doesnt seem like it - everytime the isntaller tries to get into X or when i install via commandline and then try to load X it just fails
[12:31] <Adam> surgy, google for pastebin or nopaste
[12:31] <Flannel> surgy: check your query from ubotu
[12:31] <surgy> i see it
[12:31] <blithe> Hrm, eth0 should show up in /dev/eth0 right?
[12:31] <gomek> eyequeue:  passwd -d ubuntu  results in  passwd: unknown user ubuntu
[12:31] <moparfan90> anyone know how to change color of the applications places system     menu thing
[12:31] <eyequeue> blithe, no, it is an inerface, not a device file
[12:32] <blithe> How can I point a network traffic monitoring device towards it?
[12:32] <jmoncayo> hey buddies can somebody help me, I know there is a way to install ubuntu with pxe, can somebody tell me where i can find info about it
[12:32] <nikin> the driver for gef2 is almost sure supporting the stuff for gef4
[12:32] <gomek> eyequeue:  I'm certain that the user ubuntu is created at boot-time, and i don't know how to access it via the chroot i'm in to edit the distro
[12:32] <surgy> flannel how bout this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23171
[12:32] <nozorro> moparfan90: dfficult to change without hacking into the code of themes. some themes have this area in a distinct color though
[12:32] <jmoncayo> i know there was a webpage in some ubuntu forum or ubuntu faq about it but i just cant remember the site
[12:32] <surgy> flannel: look better?
[12:33] <gomek> Hey, I created a custom CD, but for some reason on my custom CD I am required to input a password to use sudo (I don't know the password).  The normal live CD doesn't require a password.  What can I do to change it back?
[12:33] <Flannel> surgy: yeah
[12:33] <sethk> jmoncayo, pxe support would come from grub
[12:33] <m1ckeyknox> Adam: thanks
[12:33] <Nipoc> jmoncayo:http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[12:33] <eyequeue> gomek, no definitive idea, but could it be under "casper"?
[12:33] <Laks|Xeno> anyone tell me how to change my bootmode from X-windows to just command-line?
[12:33] <Rico-> gah, i wish firefox + flash + mplayer wasn't a death wish
[12:33] <lostboyz> how do you install deb package in ubuntu? i am new to ubuntu i am using suse
[12:33] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, get rid of gdm
[12:33] <moparfan90> oo
[12:33] <M3G4crux> Hi, I can connect to my mobile and headset through rfcomm but I can send a file to my mobile through gnome obex sending
[12:33] <McGyver^> hi everyone
[12:33] <nozorro> lostboyz: sudo dpkg -i pkgname
[12:34] <eyequeue> lostboyz, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[12:34] <Laks|Xeno> eyequeue how do i do that?
[12:34] <lostboyz> oh ok
[12:34] <lostboyz> thank you
[12:34] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: well there was something about it where they explained how to do it from windows as server
[12:34] <surgy> flannel can you help?
[12:34] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, sudo dpkg --purge gdm
[12:34] <Nipoc> jmoncayo: o rite
[12:34] <Flannel> surgy: nope, it has to do with your ATI drivers though ;)
[12:34] <nikin> laks: choose runlevel 3
[12:35] <surgy> flannel: thanks thats an epihony lol
[12:35] <Laks|Xeno> nikin how do i do that?
[12:35] <ala1> thanks for all your help
[12:35] <ala1> bye
[12:35] <Adam> m1ckeyknox, yw
[12:35] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, runlevels are irrelevant, don't do that
[12:35] <nikin> Laks... just 1 sec
[12:35] <eyequeue> nikin, this is ubuntu, runlevel 3 is no different from runlevel 2
[12:35] <Laks|Xeno> i just need to keep X from loading on boot cause it crashes
[12:35] <gomek> eyequeue: it's not under casper, i don't think.
[12:36] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: i read it in some ubuntu website but i erased that program but i know i need it again and i cant find it, it was something like cb
[12:36] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, do as i said, ignore the runlevel misinformation
[12:36] <Flannel> surgy: actually, googling reveals this:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-187890.html  which points you to a second page, which that page claims fixes it.
[12:36] <eyequeue> gomek, sorry, out of ideas then
[12:36] <Laks|Xeno> is there a recovery console on the CD?
[12:36] <Flamekebab> Hey, guys, has the Blogger API been made public?
[12:36] <Laks|Xeno> cause i cant boot the machine right now
[12:36] <Nipoc> jmoncayo: hmm, i just found a non ubuntu forum that was kinda close
[12:36] <root_> hi all
[12:36] <eyequeue> gomek, um, grep -ir adduser ?  not sure which tree
[12:36] <gansinho> !gtk2
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <root_> oops
[12:36] <akemi> `ake
[12:37] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, second entry in grub menu
[12:37] <gansinho> un... could someone please help me on how to change from GTK1 to GTK 2 ?
[12:37] <xav> Laks|Xeno: that's what single user is for :)
[12:37] <Flannel> gansinho: how to change what?
[12:37] <root_> hi all
[12:37] <xav> gansinho: huh?
[12:37] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, (no need for sudo in recovery) dpkg --purge gdm
[12:37] <gansinho> gtk
[12:37] <pennypacker> !hi
[12:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[12:37] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: i am pretty sure there was an ubuntu forum or faq that guide users on how to install ubuntu from linux and there was a link on how to do it from windows
[12:37] <nikin> eyeque: do you have any other idea?
[12:37] <xav> gansinho: you could port an app if you like
[12:37] <Laks|Xeno> eyequeue thank you
[12:37] <gansinho> I wanna use gtk 2.x themes
[12:37] <Rico-> :/
[12:38] <nikin> eyeque: mabe not letting start gdm?
[12:38] <eyequeue> nikin, to get rid of gdm?  yes, i've told him already
[12:38] <Nipoc> jmoncayo: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8106390 well here is a quick forum search, see anything u recognise?
[12:38] <rich_> sdf
[12:38] <nozorro> gansinho: and where's the problem?
[12:38] <Nipoc> jmoncayo: i will check the wikis
[12:38] <eyequeue> nikin, <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, sudo dpkg --purge gdm
[12:38] <gansinho> they don't look right
[12:38] <xav> gansinho: you need to port your app to gtk2
[12:38] <gomek> eyequeue adduser is a command
[12:38] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: thanks so much dude i will be here
[12:38] <nikin> eyequeue: ok , then just sorry about runleveling :D
[12:38] <nozorro> gansinho: what exactly are you doing?
[12:39] <gansinho> I'm trying to use one of these http://www.gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=100&PHPSESSID=a137dcf476c0ad791e11740433cb2f74
[12:39] <eyequeue> gomek, yes, i was thinking it has to invoke it somewhere, setting up the live user
[12:39] <gansinho> I install it easly but they don't appear like the screenies
[12:39] <Nipoc> jmoncayo: yw i hope u find it, it just check the ubuntu documentation and wikis, but couldn't find anything
[12:40] <rich_> anyone: im tried to install WINE -  seems to install ok  (i'm using the gui pkg installer) - but i don't see it anywhere in my listed apps     any ideas?
[12:40] <eyequeue> nikin, you come from an rpm distro i suspect :)
[12:40] <gomek> right
[12:40] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: oki thanks anyways
[12:40] <nozorro> gansinho: some of them might require engines (libraries) you don't have installed. see the doc that comes with them to check. go to art.gnome.org for easier to install themes
[12:40] <gomek> eyequeue ah, i see
[12:40] <djm62> OK, when I try to burn CDs/DVDs from both nautilus and gnomebaker it makes some movement and noise but fails to burn a disc.  Where do I start with finding and fixing?
[12:40] <Laks|Xeno> eyequeue how can i load a recovery console - i have the alt install disc
[12:41] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, i think there's a "boot from first partition" on there?
[12:41] <Nipoc> jmoncayo: wait a min i just found these : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=PXEInstall and
[12:41] <nozorro> gansinho: some of those on that page are even engines themselves, you can't install them just like that.
[12:41] <Nipoc> djm62: are you sure the drive works? have you tested in another os? windows mayb?
[12:41] <lostboyz> how do you convert a i386 deb package to amd64 arch?
[12:41] <nikin> eyequeue: not realy... i come from a distro i cant realy say, what is based on, it had its own package format and all
[12:42] <rich_> hi  can anyone help me with this?  tried to install WINE -  seemed to install ok  (i'm using the gui pkg installer) - but i don't see it anywhere in my listed apps     any ideas?
[12:42] <eyequeue> nikin, ah
[12:42] <gansinho> oh thanks nozorro
[12:42] <eyequeue> nikin, welcome to ubuntu :)
[12:42] <djm62> Nipoc: I haven't got a copy of windows for this laptop
[12:42] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: buddy you just saved my life thanks so much
[12:42] <gansinho> I'll look after some info
[12:42] <blithe> So does anyone know how I can point a program to my network device if it doesn't show up in /dev?
[12:42] <nozorro> lostboyz: you don't, you' have to recompile
[12:42] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: those were the ones i was looking for
[12:42] <blithe> I'm used to getting a /dev/eth0
[12:42] <djm62> Nipoc: so it's possible (but surely unlikely?) that the drive isn't working on a new machine
[12:42] <nozorro> gansinho: yw
[12:42] <lostboyz> ok how do i do that
[12:42] <Nipoc> rich: u dont need to find it, just type wine <windows program u wanna run> at a console
[12:43] <pennypacker> wine is horrible
[12:43] <nikin> eyequeue: thx, i use ubuntu now for about a month :D its prettsy usable... just hardware support sux a bit when compared to rpm based distros
[12:43] <nozorro> lostboyz: if the packagers didn't do it for you already, you'd have to be a coder to know how :-)
[12:43] <rich_> Nipoc  i'm trying to install UT2004
[12:43] <jmoncayo> Nipoc: yeah buddy thanks so much
[12:43] <rich_> so just point to the exe?
[12:43] <rich_> i'll try that
[12:44] <Nipoc> rich: as i recall ut2004 comes with a  linux installer
[12:44] <lostboyz> how do you compile from source here
[12:44] <lostboyz> from a tar ball
[12:44] <Nipoc> djm62: i didn't realise that it was new machine, do you know the make and model of the drive?
[12:44] <fatbrain> How can I see where a like is linked to?
[12:44] <nozorro> lostboyz: very broad question
[12:44] <djm62> Nipoc: I can find that out
[12:44] <pennypacker> extract + read "install.txt"
[12:44] <Nipoc> djm62: does it read cd and dvds ok?
[12:44] <nikin> lostboyz... first install the  build-essental package
[12:44] <rich_> Nipoc, i'm a real linux beginner, and ya, i see the installer, i just don't know how to use it
[12:44] <djm62> Nipoc: otherwise I couldn't have installed ubuntu :)
[12:44] <lostboyz> ok then?
[12:45] <djm62> Nipoc: yes still correct there
[12:45] <Nipoc> rich: lol ok, let me dig me ut2004 disk. u got the dvd or cds?
[12:45] <nikin> then install. txt will tel you all
[12:45] <rich_> dvd
[12:45] <Nipoc> djm62: k
[12:45] <Nipoc> rich_: good
[12:45] <nikin> first unpack tha tarball, then make, hen make install .... or something like that
[12:45] <rich_> ya now doubt
[12:46] <essdee> how do you get xchat to display with tabs instead of the tree
[12:46] <pennypacker> ./configure
[12:46] <pennypacker> make
[12:46] <pennypacker> make install
[12:46] <nozorro> lostboyz: are you sure your package can be compled to amd64? if not it's not much use
[12:46] <Nipoc> rich_: as you're a linux newbie i don't suppose you have installed the graphics drivers for your card?
[12:46] <rich_> i'm a real linux beginner so'just unpakc the tarball  etc,.,  doesn't help me
[12:46] <lostboyz> oh i am not
[12:46] <treitter> how does the kernel versioning work?  (ie, in linux-image-2.6.15-26.46, what are the numbers "26" and "46" for, exactly?)
[12:46] <lostboyz> but i would think so
[12:46] <rich_> i got it
[12:46] <lostboyz> because i am running it on another machine
[12:47] <eyequeue> !b-e > rich_
[12:47] <TylerDurdener> is there a linux alternative to Daemon Tools?
[12:47] <nozorro> lostboyz: seriously, why?
[12:47] <rich_> i found something called easy ubuntu
[12:47] <eyequeue> rich_, read the bot url
[12:47] <rich_> and i think i'm all set with driverws
[12:47] <eyequeue> rich_, caution on that one!
[12:47] <lostboyz> why what
[12:47] <eyequeue> !easyubuntu
[12:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:47] <lostboyz> i am testing gyachi
[12:47] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: yes, mount
[12:47] <lostboyz> to see if it works in ubuntu
[12:47] <eyequeue> use at your own risk
[12:47] <lostboyz> because i am having serious problems in suse 10.1
[12:47] <bintut> hello all..
[12:47] <lostboyz> with webcam support
[12:48] <nozorro> lostboyz: how are you sure it can be compiled to amd64? did someone tell you?
[12:48] <TylerDurdener> Rico-, can mount mount image files?
[12:48] <Rico-> isos for sure, i'd need to check about others
[12:48] <TylerDurdener> ok thanks
[12:48] <Rico-> the bin of a bin/cue is also an iso
[12:49] <bintut> i just downloaded an ubuntu desktop from http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso but it has a different UI already during installation..  i don't know how to install from this cd.  i want to install it with an option of "vga=771 noapic nolapic".  anybody can help?
[12:49] <rich_> nipoc, still there
[12:49] <Nipoc> rich_:yup
[12:49] <TylerDurdener> Rico-, do I have to put the iso in etc/fstab?
[12:49] <rich_> k
[12:49] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.iso /mnt/image
[12:50] <Nipoc> rich_: this next bit will b easier in private chat
[12:50] <rich_> k
[12:50] <essdee> how do you get xchat to display with tabs instead of the tree
[12:51] <Rico-> view - layout - tabs
[12:51] <essdee> channels with tabs instead of trees
[12:51] <essdee> wheres view? hehe
[12:51] <Rico-> in the menu? oh wait
[12:51] <rich_> Nipoc: can we go to private, and how do i do that?
[12:51] <essdee> in the linux version?
[12:51] <Rico-> well i'm using xchat (universe) you may be using xchat-gnome
[12:51] <bintut> where can i find the installation howto of ubuntu desktop?
[12:51] <Nipoc> rich_: it seems private chat isn't working, so copy linux-installer.sh and paste it on your desktop
[12:51] <essdee> yeah, gnome
[12:51] <Rico-> Nipoc - need to be registered to use PMs
[12:51] <rich_> ok
[12:51] <alex222> hey guys
[12:51] <alex222> how do i play WMV'S
[12:51] <Nipoc> Rico-: lol, thanks rico
[12:51] <alex222> avi's etc
[12:51] <alex222> and what's the best program to watch videos
[12:52] <Rico-> essdee: then remove xchat-gnome and install xchat, which is better
[12:52] <alex222> + best bit torrent program
[12:52] <Nipoc> alex: wmvs with difficulty
[12:52] <Rico-> imho anyways
[12:52] <alex222> for GNOME
[12:52] <rich_> Nipoc: done
[12:52] <essdee> 10-4
[12:52] <nikin> i think, its enough of me for to day, CUL8R
[12:52] <lupine_85> alex222: probably mplayer
[12:52] <Rico-> !RestrictedFormats
[12:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:52] <lupine_85> with totem a lagging second
[12:52] <VonGuard> ok: i have enabled and set up an nfs server on a Dapper laptop
[12:52] <Rico-> alex222: look above for info. you just need to install a bunch of packages, then you get wmv/etc.
[12:52] <VonGuard> i used the ubuntuforums how to to set it up
[12:52] <TylerDurdener> Rico-, can I just use cd to the dir and do mount filename.iso?
[12:52] <Nipoc> rich_: now right click on it, then click properties, then on ther permissions tab check the execute boxes
[12:53] <VonGuard> now, when i try to mount it on the other dapper laptoop, i get permission denied by the server
[12:53] <lupine_85> TylerDurdener: if it's in your fstab, then yes. Otherwise you need to give full details
[12:53] <TylerDurdener> what is fstab?
[12:53] <Homer> wmv works in ubuntu?
[12:53] <Nipoc> homer: with the right codecs yes
[12:53] <rich_> ok
[12:53] <Rico-> Homer: wmv7, i think, not wmv9.
[12:53] <Rico-> Homer: in practice it plays virtually any wmv file around
[12:53] <rich_> i started the install,  anything special i should know?
[12:54] <Homer> except ones with hardcore microsoft drm on them
[12:54] <Rico-> yeah
[12:54] <Nipoc> TylerDurdener: fstab is a list of different devices and their mount points
[12:54] <Rico-> oh, and totem renders them badly for me, i use mplayer or vlc
[12:54] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: the file /etc/fstab
[12:54] <thephunkizm> anyone familiar with the shutdown crash bug in ubuntu 6.06 (gnome) with amd athlon 64 ?
[12:54] <Homer> I like vlc
[12:54] <Nipoc> though there are some good programs to remove drm about
[12:54] <rich_> Hipoc: i started the install,  anything special i should know?
[12:54] <bintut>  anyone here can help me on how to install ubuntu desktop?
[12:54] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: fstab basically automatically mounts a bunch of things at start-up.
[12:54] <Nipoc> rich_: not that i remember
[12:54] <djm62> bintut: what stage are you at right now?
[12:54] <bintut> i need to install an ubuntu desktop but i don't know how
[12:54] <TylerDurdener> so what does it have to do with me mounting an image in the first place?
[12:54] <Homer> it's the linux file stabber
[12:54] <rich_> Nipoc: ok thanks
[12:55] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: nothing, just run the command i gave you.
[12:55] <rich_> i'm gonna give it a try
[12:55] <VonGuard> anyone know why my dapper nfs server is denying access because permission is denied?
[12:55] <VonGuard> do i need a guest user?
[12:55] <bintut> djm62: what stage do you mean? it's the first page or display i see
[12:55] <TylerDurdener> well id like to also understand how it works rico-, but ok
[12:55] <lupine_85> corection: fstab specifies default options for various mountpoints
[12:55] <VonGuard> is there login info i should put in the mount command?
[12:55] <Nipoc> rich_: drivers tend to cause the most problems with gaming in linux, there are quite a few forums about if u get stuck, give them  a google
[12:55] <lupine_85> hence if you want to mount <something> with no additional options, it needs to be in your fstab
[12:56] <djm62> bintut: what OS is installed on your computer at the moment? have you downloaded or otherwise got hold of a CD/DVD with ubuntu on?
[12:56] <bintut> djm62: i tried to boot from a non-graphical boot and it cannot find a kernel image "install"
[12:56] <Homer> TylerDurdener, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[12:56] <rich_> also while i'm at it:  VMware - i installed it but it doesn't work - something about vmmon service? not starting.   i tried to reinstall this a couple of times but no-go
[12:56] <surgy> how do i make glxgears display my fps?
[12:56] <TylerDurdener> this is what i get when i try to launch the command you gave me: mount: mount point /mnt/image does not exist
[12:56] <bintut> djm62: i already have an ubuntu desktop from http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso and i already booted it first
[12:56] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: mkdir /mnt/image
[12:57] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: plus keep in mind you'll need to change the iso filename
[12:57] <Flannel> surgy: glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[12:57] <Mortice> surgy: run it from a console and wait
[12:57] <djm62> bintut: and that was a liveCD with an "install" icon on the Desktop?
[12:57] <VonGuard> got iot!
[12:57] <Nipoc> rich_: i'm not so good with service stuff, but i'll have a quick google for you
[12:57] <VonGuard> yay! thanks for the help
[12:57] <surgy> falnnel: thnx got a better idea?
[12:57] <n0dl> !seen bz0b
[12:57] <surgy> flannel*
[12:57] <ubotu> I haven't seen bz0b recently
[12:57] <Homer> !help
[12:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:57] <bintut> djm62: i don't know.
[12:58] <TylerDurdener> how would i unmount it rico-? nmount and then the followup to the same command you gave me?
[12:58] <rich_> Nipoc: ty\
[12:58] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: once mounted you can just umount /mnt/image
[12:58] <TylerDurdener> ty
[12:58] <surgy> flannel: if the tutorials around the web didnt teach us newbies to use it as an initial test of our video card drivers then it whouldnt be used as a benchmark
[12:58] <Flannel> surgy: no, that's a good indication of whether accel is working not
[12:58] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: but as lupine_85 mentioned, you will have to specify the -o loop -t iso9600 stuff every time you mount the iso unless you add it to your fstab
[12:58] <djm62> bintut: so where in the install process are you?
[12:59] <surgy> flannel: i ran it about 1 minute ago its still running and hasnt givin m an fps output yet
[12:59] <Flannel> surgy: but, thats one method of getting it to display the fps ;)
[12:59] <bintut> djm62: the very first.. choosing the boot methods..
[12:59] <Flannel> surgy: it should do it automatically
[12:59] <surgy> flannel whats another way?
[12:59] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: if you're curious, the -o loop says 'mount a file, not a block device' (such as a harddrive), the -t specifies ISO format, and /mnt/image is where you want it mounted - you can change this
[12:59] <xav> surgy: you don't need to
[12:59] <djm62> bintut: what options do you get, and what happens when you just leave it to the default?
[12:59] <xav> surgy: you just tell from the gears
[12:59] <surgy> flannel i typed "glxgears" and its no outputting fps
[12:59] <bintut> djm62: i pressed F3 and the only available boot methods it says are live and memtest
[12:59] <Flannel> surgy: the -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark flag
[01:00] <djm62> bintut: so if you choose live?
[01:00] <surgy> flannel: seriously?
[01:00] <Flannel> surgy: yes
[01:00] <TylerDurdener> exactly what i was curious about rico-, thanks again
[01:00] <xav> surgy: hey
[01:00] <surgy> flannel: lol ok
[01:00] <surgy> xav: yes?
[01:00] <Nipoc> rich_: ino this is a tut but it may have a step or two that you missed, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[01:00] <bintut> djm62: i want to install ubuntu desktop and not the live cd
[01:00] <djm62> bintut: the dapper release combines those things...
[01:00] <Flannel> bintut: get the alternate ISO then, if you dont want to use the liveCD to install
[01:01] <surgy> flannel: i thought that was bs
[01:01] <djm62> bintut: if you choose liveCD you will have the option to install from there (also giving you a quick check of your hardware compatibility)
[01:01] <Flannel> surgy: ye of little faith
[01:01] <Nipoc> rich_: in the comments there is a guy tlking bout ubuntu 6.06
[01:01] <bintut> Flannel: do you mean, before i can install an ubuntu desktop, i have to boot first the livecd?
[01:01] <bintut> djm62: ok
[01:01] <surgy> flannel: thanks for trying to confuse a newbie
[01:01] <Flannel> bintut: if you get the Desktop ISO, yes.  the Alternate ISO is the old textmode installer (no liveCD first)
[01:01] <surgy> see you guys later
[01:01] <surgy> Warrning: unknown parameter: -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[01:01] <djm62> bintut: you don't HAVE to! you can get a different iso if you don't want to for whatever reason
[01:01] <Nipoc> l8r surgy
[01:01] <djm62> bintut: (in case you were feeling forced)
[01:01] <TylerDurdener> Rico-, one more thing, unmount won't, it says it isn't a command
[01:02] <segosa> does the desktop CD of ubuntu still have a "minimal install" or has that been separated and made into the "server cd"?
[01:02] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: umount
[01:02] <bintut> Flannel or djm62:  ok
[01:02] <TylerDurdener> ah ok
[01:02] <mausiwolf> hi, with what command can i find out info on my CPU
[01:02] <Flannel> surgy: actually, glxgears will print FPS on ANY unknown parameter, as far as Im aware, the real one is -printfps
[01:02] <Nipoc> lol the unmount umount thing baffled me fore ages
[01:02] <Flannel> segosa: get the alternate ISO
[01:02] <Mortice> Flannel: it also prints fps when run without arguments
[01:02] <Flannel> segosa: and type "server" at the prompt (it's different than the server iso)
[01:02] <segosa> ah
[01:02] <segosa> thanks
[01:02] <Nipoc> i suppose it's because your brain guesses the word
[01:03] <Flannel> Mortice: no it doesn't.  He ran without arguments, and it didnt.
[01:03] <BDahl> I have a sort of noobish question on Ubuntu, specifically edubuntu and printing...
[01:03] <Nipoc> BDahl: ask away
[01:03] <redcard> Nipoc: I once had a guy working with me who SWORE his unix would accept unmount
[01:03] <Mortice> Flannel: must be a weird version then - there's no argument listed for displaying fps in "glxgears -help", and it displays FPS when run from my virtual terminal.
[01:03] <djm62> redcard: he could have aliased it
[01:04] <segosa> Flannel: just confirming... ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso?
[01:04] <Nipoc> redcard: i was soo counfused for so long over umount: i though my distro was broken
[01:04] <Flannel> segosa: right
[01:04] <segosa> ok, ty.
[01:04] <Flannel> segosa: and type "server" at the prompt
[01:04] <nozorro> Nipoc: this *is* broken :-)
[01:04] <Nipoc> djm62: lol i think i gotten alias mine to save me many hours of future confusion
[01:05] <segosa> yep
[01:05] <surgy> ok im back
[01:05] <surgy> im from fedora
[01:05] <mausiwolf> !paste
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[01:05] <BDahl> I am a senior in high school and have been given control of the computers in the school's typing lab, about 25 pcs. I have installed edubuntu on them and am trying to get a network printer set up but i don't really know where to start.
[01:05] <Nipoc> nozorro: lol well i think so :-D
[01:05] <surgy> im used to "yum search [parameter] 
[01:05] <surgy> is it apt-get search ?
[01:05] <Flannel> surgy: apt-cache search
[01:05] <surgy> ok
[01:06] <Nipoc> BDahl: what printer is it, does it connect to a pc or right into the network?
[01:06] <IcemanV9> !printer > BDahl
[01:06] <d1sc0rd> anybody know how to get ndiswrapper working in edgy?
[01:06] <d1sc0rd> colin@integral:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:06] <d1sc0rd> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[01:06] <djm62> Nipoc: I would like to rescind my previous statement  about being able to find out what sort of DVD burner was in this
[01:07] <BDahl> it is an HP LaserJet 1022 and it is connected to a pc in the network, the network has no internet access, only switches connecting them
[01:07] <cmpalmer> d1sc0rd: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:07] <d1sc0rd> cmpalmer: what?
[01:07] <surgy> man this is pissing me off too
[01:07] <cmpalmer> d1sc0rd: the channel for edgy is #ubuntu+1
[01:07] <Nipoc> djm62: lol hmm i realy dont know then, i was going to suugest searching to see it was problem specific to you drive
[01:08] <djm62> I can look on the software side, but I've already googled any error messages I can find
[01:08] <SaitoHajime> surgy, glxgears -printfps
[01:08] <surgy> so i apt-cache search xlib   and it brings up a bunch of packages but when i type apt-get install xlib it says it cant find the package
[01:08] <surgy> thnx
[01:08] <djm62> can't find the Golden Google for this particular Glitch :(
[01:08] <Nipoc> BDahl: have u got installed and working on the pc its connected to
[01:09] <nozorro> BDahl: the printer setup thingy in ubuntu con be confusing for networked printers at times ...
[01:09] <BDahl> yes
[01:09] <BDahl> and yes
[01:09] <Rico-> surgy: it's probably called libx11 or something
[01:09] <nozorro> BDahl: where do you get stuck?
[01:09] <BDahl> on sharing it with other computers
[01:09] <rich_> bbl
[01:10] <surgy> rico: cedega wont install becuase of the dependancy xlib, so thats what im trying to get xlib
[01:10] <nozorro> BDahl: are you using the graphical tool for configuration in ubuntu?
[01:10] <Rico-> surgy: configure, etc. will refer to library names differently to their names in apt-get
[01:10] <TLE> how does one implement long options ala. --version in a bash script, can it be parsed with getopts ?
[01:10] <Rico-> surgy: for example, all libraries begin with lib.
[01:11] <BDahl> i tried the http://localhost:631 tool but i could not "log in" to save the changes
[01:11] <surgy> rico: do you think xlib is refering to libx11-dev ?
[01:11] <djm62> Nipoc: it's a "HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N" in Device Manager
[01:11] <surgy> rico or libx11-6 ?
[01:11] <Rico-> surgy: i wouldn't know. most likely libx11-dev.
[01:11] <nozorro> BDahl: ubuntu uses a somewhat borked config so you shouldn't use that, use System > Admin > Printing instead
[01:12] <BDahl> ok, how do i share it then
[01:12] <surgy> rico ill download everything i see with lib on the front that will fix it
[01:12] <Rico-> surgy: oh wait. if you're not compiling from source you don't need -dev libraries :/
[01:12] <BDahl> or should it be automatic?
[01:12] <Rico-> surgy: good idea 
[01:12] <surgy> rico: no not from source i have a deb
[01:12] <foo> What's the program to set up a network printer? Hm
[01:12] <nozorro> BDahl: add printer, select Windows printer
[01:12] <BDahl> ok
[01:13] <mcphail> TLE: use "getopt", not "getopts"
[01:13] <mcphail> TLE: tha man page is good
[01:14] <Nipoc> nozorro: wouldn't cups be able to share the printer?
[01:14] <ech0> anyone have 5.1 speakers and have a hell of a time getting them to work?
[01:14] <ech0> i can get sound from all of them but its all jacked up
[01:14] <Homer> what is a dapper?
[01:14] <nozorro> BDahl: oh wait did you check Global Settings > Detect LAN Printers? dunno if this works for win whares
[01:14] <mausiwolf> a dist from Ubuntu
[01:14] <surgy> homer: its not that beer in your hand
[01:14] <nozorro> *shares
[01:15] <ech0> I can't control the volume of all the speakers with the master volume
[01:15] <BDahl> the printer is on a linux machine
[01:15] <nozorro> BDahl: now i am confused about your setup
[01:15] <BDahl> ok just a second
[01:16] <Nipoc> nite all
[01:17] <sethk> BDahl, with localhost:631, you have to be root
[01:17] <smax> hi gang
[01:17] <Nipoc> BDahl: not sure if this is relevant to ure setup as im not sure wot ur setup is but give it a try http://occy.net/printing
[01:18] <BDahl> I have 25 Ubuntu Computers with one of them connected to a printer. They all have ip addresses of 192.168.5.XXX, the print 'server' has an ip of 192.168.5.13 with an HP Laserjet 1022 printer installed and named Laserjet-1022 in cups.
[01:18] <smax> lpr -p  <printer> ;  how do i find the name of my printer?
[01:18] <smax> i configured it in the gui
[01:18] <nozorro> BDahl: if the printer is on a linux machine, the deciding factor is whether the driver/fonts are installed on print server or not.
[01:18] <smax> would it be the make/model ?
[01:18] <sethk> BDahl, first question, can you print on the machine to which the printer is connected?  if so, the driver is installed correctly.
[01:19] <BDahl> yes i can print on the local macine
[01:19] <DJGummikuh> try printing on paper instead *scnr*
[01:19] <nozorro> BDahl: you are sure cupds on the print server accepts connect from other machines?
[01:19] <BDahl> that is where i need help
[01:19] <nozorro> BDahl: ah
[01:20] <nozorro> BDahl: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf then. well commented
[01:20] <sethk> BDahl, did you use sudo (or were you root) when you used the browser with localhost:631?
[01:20] <smax> i have a file on the print queue in the state of Pending: none.   why?   how do i make it on "printing" for god sakes
[01:20] <TokenBad> ok...I had a crash and rebooted the system...now my slave drive is read only...can't even load stuff off of it...anyone know how to fix it?
[01:20] <sethk> smax, it probably thinks your printer is off line
[01:21] <sethk> smax, so it is saving the job, to print whenever the printer becomes available
[01:21] <djm62> TokenBad: has it been fsck'd?
[01:21] <TokenBad> djm62?
[01:21] <BDahl> ok so i will just configure it like the linkk that you sent me, then enable network detection and I should be good then?
[01:21] <heliana> #ROMAN
[01:21] <djm62> TokenBad: did it do a filesystem check on the drive while booting perhaps?
[01:22] <TokenBad> I mean I can see the stuff there...but it is all read only
[01:22] <TokenBad> not that I remember seeing
[01:22] <djm62> TokenBad: sudo mount -o remount,rw /mnt/drive ?
[01:22] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know of a way to sync evolution with google calendar?
[01:23] <moparfan90> whats a command to find out your internal ip
[01:23] <bean-oh> pianoboy3333, i've tried a bunch, but had no luck
[01:23] <Rico-> moparfan90: ifconfig will do it
[01:23] <nozorro> BDahl: yes if your servers accepts connections and sends brtoadcasts. and this works only if the driver and fonts are on the print server, which is not always the case
[01:23] <djm62> moparfan90: ifconfig ?
[01:23] <nozorro> *broadcasts
[01:23] <TylerDurdener> would burning a .iso file using the gnome burning software make it work like a regular cd? or will it just burn the file itself?
[01:23] <TokenBad> I had this happen once before a while back...in earlier version of ubuntu but not remember how the person hasd me fix it
[01:23] <BDahl> ok thank you
[01:24] <moparfan90> k thanks
[01:24] <TokenBad> if I try to umount the drive it says the device is busy
[01:24] <sethk> TokenBad, you have to fsck it
[01:24] <sethk> TokenBad, umount it, then run fsck.
[01:24] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: k3b will do it
[01:24] <TylerDurdener> TokenBad, make sure youre not in the same directory in the terminal as the thing youre trying to unmount
[01:24] <nozorro> BDahl: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu if you haven't already. setup from graph. tools should be relatively easy if the server is ok
[01:25] <TokenBad> I can't umount it....
[01:25] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: install k3b, tools -> cd -> burn cd image
[01:25] <mcphail> TylerDurdener: right click and "write to disk" will create the cd, rather than just adding the .iso file
[01:25] <Rico-> ...or that
[01:25] <TylerDurdener> thanks, ill try k3b though, i heard good things about it, i just thought it was KDE only
[01:25] <nozorro> BDahl: but as i said the browser page doesn't seem to work in ubuntu, or maybe one has to be root ...
[01:25] <sethk> TylerDurdener, nothing is kde only
[01:25] <mcphail> TylerDurdener: works fine in gnome
[01:25] <TokenBad> TylerDurdener, I am in my home dir and its on /media/windows dir
[01:25] <TokenBad> and it still will not let me umount it
[01:26] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: lord no! i couldn't live without amarok...
[01:26] <TylerDurdener> TokenBad, try sudo eject, or sudo umount /media/thename
[01:26] <djm62> TokenBad: lsof | grep windows
[01:26] <osvalcy> alguem escreve portugues?
[01:26] <nozorro> !pt
[01:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:26] <djm62> TokenBad: to try to track down what's accessing it
[01:27] <TokenBad> djm62, no responce when did that command
[01:27] <wubrgamer> urgh !
[01:27] <mcphail> TokenBad: try sudo umount -l /path/to/device
[01:27] <smax> sethk:  it is available.  plugged in.  configured
[01:28] <TokenBad> mcphail, that seemed to work
[01:28] <TokenBad> now if I reboot should it remount it?
[01:28] <TokenBad> since its in fstab?
[01:28] <_ShoGo_> Hi, im trying to install a genius videocam nb, and i have read that it uses sn9c102 driver. i have seen with lsmod that it is loaded, dmesg and lsusb detect it, and dmesg says that it is /dev/video0 but i can only see images from a tv card capturer with camorama
[01:28] <eyequeue> TokenBad, is it "auto"?
[01:28] <mcphail> TokenBad: i'm sorry, i have missed most of the conversation
[01:28] <smax> so much for using ubuntu for my school work.
[01:28] <smax> back to gentoo
[01:28] <TokenBad> I know there was a way to mount all the drives in fstab again
[01:29] <TokenBad> just forget
[01:29] <mcphail> TokenBad: sudo mount -a
[01:29] <TokenBad> well it tried to remount the drive still says busy
[01:29] <eyequeue> TokenBad, you may be thinking of sudo mount -a, but that's just auto
[01:29] <eyequeue> TokenBad, certainly not all of fstab
[01:29] <lostinc> Hi. What is the difference between Realplayer and Helix player?
[01:30] <eyequeue> lostinc, freedom
[01:30] <eyequeue> lostinc, the latter is free, they say
[01:30] <mcphail> lostinc: read the Realplayer website
[01:30] <jentacle> Any one willing to try and help out with an openGL problem? Pretty much i tried to Install XGL/Compiz(which never did work) after this openGl programs fail with a message "Could not load OpenGL library". Prior to this all 3d programs worked. My drivers for my Video card(ATI 9600) seems fine.
[01:30] <lostinc> I have read some of it and well I am just confused over it.
[01:31] <mcphail> lostinc: it is fairly clear. helix is the open-source "core" of realplayer, but lacks much of realplayer's functions
[01:31] <LinuxManMikeC> lostinc, Helix doesn't play the real video formats (at least for me)
[01:32] <surgy> error: dependancy is not  satisfiable: xlibs
[01:32] <zoidberg> hey guys
[01:32] <zoidberg> i have a question
[01:32] <surgy> can anyone help?
[01:32] <zoidberg> I was wondering what the major changes will be in Edgy Eft?
[01:32] <LinuxManMikeC> zoidberg: someone may have an answer
[01:33] <zoidberg> i 've ssen the websites but I'm aking you guys
[01:33] <eyequeue> !edgy > zoidberg
[01:33] <TokenBad> fcsk still will not work on the drive...even with it umounted
[01:33] <lostinc> So if I install Realplayer will it ask for $$4
[01:33] <TokenBad> says busy
[01:33] <bintut> how can i setup lvm2 on ubuntu desktop installation? i'm running the livecd already and in the process of manually partition?
[01:33] <zoidberg> I just wanna heaar what you guys are excited about PERSONALLY
[01:33] <surgy> anyone help with this??    error: dependancy is not  satisfiable: xlibs
[01:33] <zoidberg> what changes are you guys looking forward to?
[01:33] <romulo> hi, theres any way to open another X session inside a window? like connecting by vnc or something?
[01:33] <eyequeue> zoidberg, wrong channel
[01:34] <zoidberg> eyequeue: is there a channel for this discussion?
[01:34] <eyequeue> zoidberg, read the bot
[01:34] <LinuxManMikeC> lostinc: no it won't ask for money, go to the helix web site and it will allow you to download a copy of realplayer
[01:34] <LinuxManMikeC> lostinc: it will be "free" as in beer
[01:34] <iceman24k> sethk i get a weird message about runlevel 1
[01:34] <rich_> how do i register?\
[01:35] <mcphail> romulo: i think that "xnest" can do this
[01:35] <eyequeue> why do people talk about money when it comes to freedom? :(
[01:35] <surgy> rich_ "/msg nickserv register rich_
[01:35] <sjbrown> anyone know where i can find a python2.2-rpm package for ubuntu?
[01:35] <eyequeue> !register > rich_
[01:35] <BDahl> ok, another question for my personal setup... I have a pc with a nforce4 sli mobo, 512 mb ram, geforce 7800 GT, 250 Gb Sata 3.0 HDD, USB mouse and keyboard, and a dvd+-r drive. When i try to install either Fedora or Ubuntu 5.10 i get display corruption when x starts in the installer, the mouse is functional but the system freezes. Does anyone know of a fix? acpi=off and nodetect don't work.
[01:35] <mcphail> sjbrown: .rpm files are not used in ubuntu
[01:35] <surgy> anyone want to share some wisdom on "error: dependancy is not  satisfiable: xlibs"
[01:35] <eyequeue> surgy, um no, you hust told everyone his password? :P
[01:36] <LinuxManMikeC> eyequeue: i wasn't talking about freedom, i was talking about no cost, i guess the terms are just ambiguous
[01:36] <iceman>  /msg NickServ
[01:36] <sjbrown> mcphail, i do rpm development on my ubuntu desktop
[01:36] <TylerDurdener> BDahl, after it goes to the terminal window, type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select either ATI or fglrx in the options, that should fix it
[01:36] <surgy> eyequeuw (oops)
[01:36] <iceman>  /msg NickServ iceman24k access
[01:36] <iceman>  /msg NickServ access
[01:36] <eyequeue> LinuxManMikeC, i meant lostinc :)
[01:36] <sjbrown> i guess the real question is "is there a repository somewhere for obscure packages"?
[01:36] <mcphail> sjbrown: fair enough, but by definition there is not an RPM of _anything_ for ubuntu
[01:36] <LinuxManMikeC> ah, well i'm a tad slow today :-D
[01:37] <moparfan90> what port does vncviewer use?
[01:37] <skyline5k> quick question... first time here, so bear with me...
[01:37] <BDahl> Tyler: ok i will try that, if it doesn't work i will be back in a few minutes...
[01:37] <LinuxManMikeC> moparfan90: vnc uses whatever port your display is on 5900 for display 0, 5901 for display 1, and so on
[01:37] <sjbrown> reworked question: anyone know where i can find an apt package python2.2-rpm for ubuntu?
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[01:38] <zoidberg> guys i have a question
[01:38] <mcphail> !info python2.2
[01:38] <ubotu> python2.2: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.2). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3dfsg-4 (dapper), package size 2125 kB, installed size 7208 kB
[01:38] <moparfan90> ok
[01:38] <zoidberg> when i was installing Ubuntu on my machine
[01:38] <sjbrown> !info python2.2-rpm
[01:38] <ubotu> Package python2.2-rpm does not exist in any distro I know
[01:38] <sjbrown> bogus
[01:38] <zoidberg> I couldnt get it to start becasue of my NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 pro video card
[01:38] <zoidberg> i finally had to remove it and use the onboard generic Intel video card
[01:38] <zoidberg> now that i have ubuntu up and running
[01:38] <moparfan90> im trying to remote connect to my freinds PC.. this is possible right?
[01:39] <zoidberg> i was wondering if i can use the RIVA TNT card?
[01:39] <mcphail> sjbrown: you are missing the point. No rpm package will be available for ubuntu. If you _must_ have an rpm, track a generic one from the web
[01:39] <eyequeue> moparfan90, man ssh
[01:39] <sjbrown> moparfan90, is your friend running linux?
[01:39] <zoidberg> i know that a lot of people with this card have had trouble with it
[01:39] <skyline5k> my computer recently got messed up by a power surge.  The computer itself seems fine, but windows is dead.  So I'm trying to install ubuntu get it back up & running again. But I'm getting the following error:  Loading isolinux: disk error 80, ax=4200, drive 9f
[01:39] <sjbrown> !info python2.4-rpm
[01:39] <moparfan90> yes
[01:39] <surgy> ok i need an xlibs dummy file can someone point me in the right direction?
[01:39] <moparfan90> ubuntu
[01:39] <ubotu> python2.4-rpm: Python bindings for RPM. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.4.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 462 kB, installed size 1212 kB
[01:39] <moparfan90> same version as me
[01:39] <skyline5k> Is that a disk problem or computer problem?
[01:39] <_ShoGo_> nobody can help me?
[01:39] <TylerDurdener> you can use the same line zoidbord, we see it. when it goes to command prompt after the blue screen, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try first selecting nvidia, if that doesnt work select vesa
[01:40] <sjbrown> moparfan90, does he have sshd installed?
[01:40] <surgy> skylin5k looks like an hdd error
[01:40] <LinuxManMikeC> moparfan90: vnc is an insecure protocol, you should tunnel it through ssh
[01:40] <skyline5k> thanks, surgy.  so the computer itself seems to be fried.
[01:40] <moparfan90> oo
[01:40] <sjbrown> see mcphail, there are rpm packages available,  it just appears there are no old python2.2 ones
[01:40] <moparfan90> i dont care.. just trying to test it
[01:40] <surgy> skyline5k have the hard disk tested will cost you $15
[01:40] <Rico-> is there a good torrent client that i can monitor through ssh?
[01:40] <moparfan90> whats a command to try it?
[01:41] <jentacle> any thoughts about opengl library problems? get messages they cant be found
[01:41] <mcphail> sjbrown: i eat my words - i hadn't realised you were talking about the python bindings. :)
[01:41] <eyequeue> moparfan90, there is no reason for him to make his machine open to attack
[01:41] <skyline5k> I'm in shanghai, so i'm probably going to go through a techie friend of mine here.
[01:41] <TylerDurdener> Rico-, try Azureus, my favorite
[01:41] <LinuxManMikeC> moparfan90: well i suppose you have your friend's ip address or url?
[01:41] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: how do you monitor it through ssh?
[01:41] <eyequeue> moparfan90, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:41] <Jones_> Is it just me, or in gnome when I go to system/preferences/screen resolution, there are no choices. I can't resize the resolution or change refresh rate with the gui. How to fix this?
[01:41] <djm62>  Where would be a good place to ask my question about troubleshooting my DVD burner (LG GWA-4082N)
[01:41] <sjbrown> mcphail, i'll try to be less ambiguous in the future
[01:42] <TylerDurdener> I'm not really sure what ssh exactly is, but I'm just recommending a torrent client :)
[01:42] <eyequeue> moparfan90, man ssh
[01:42] <Bluhd> Just a quick programming question: is there any way to tell if you're linking to a static library other than the name sometimes containing "static" in it? Is there a specific filetype?
[01:42] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: oh right  ssh allows you to connect to your computer from a remote computer, and open up a secure terminal.
[01:42] <iceman24k1> humm how can a register ?
[01:43] <surgy> if i refer someone while registering at the forums does that give them brownie points or sometyhing?
[01:43] <eyequeue> !register > Iceman24k
[01:43] <TylerDurdener> I think anything would work then Rico-, since it just views the screen, I doubt it has anything to do with the software
[01:43] <Rico-> TylerDurdener: nope, you just get a text server. I'd rather not set up vnc just to monitor torrents
[01:43] <Rico-> s/server/terminal
[01:44] <eyequeue> Rico-, man ssh, there is -X and -Y
[01:45] <Rico-> eyequeue: what advantage is there to tunneling X over using vnc?
[01:45] <bluefox83> Rico-, security
[01:45] <bina> Hi, is it safe to resize an ntfs partition using the ubuntu installer?
[01:45] <eyequeue> Rico-, no reason for the vnc bloat, but security is key
[01:46] <Rico-> does X11 hijack a current session like VNC or is a new one?
[01:46] <sjbrown> bina, is there data on the partition?
[01:46] <Rico-> or i suppose you can do either
[01:46] <surgy> bina: you risk destroying your windows install make sure you have your back ups
[01:46] <eyequeue> bina, ntfs writes are unsafe
[01:46] <eyequeue> !ntfs > bina
[01:47] <bina> sjbrown: yeah have an XP installation, its on a fujitsu laptop
[01:47] <Bluhd> bina: I would highly recommend backing up your drive and doing a defragment if you really want to go through with that
[01:47] <bina> surgy: ah :) thanks
[01:47] <tizwonder> booo.. gnome is boring, someone tell me another nice eye candy gui :)
[01:47] <bina> eyequeue: oh thanks
[01:47] <Rico-> tizwonder: xgl?
[01:47] <Bluhd> tizwonder, murrine
[01:47] <sjbrown> tizwonder, install some new themes?
[01:47] <mcphail> Bluhd: static libraries are libwhatever.a (c.f. libwhatever.so)
[01:47] <Rico-> bina: for what it's worth, i managed to destroy an ntfs partition by resizing it. although people say resizing is safe
[01:47] <tizwonder> Bluhd: i dont think murrine supports x64?
[01:48] <Bluhd> tizwonder, I don't know. I never tried x64 when I had Ubuntu 64 bit installed
[01:48] <bina> Bluhd, surgy, eyequeue, Rico-: would using something like partition magic be safer?
[01:48] <djm62> tizwonder: enlightenment?
[01:48] <Bluhd> bina, I don't know
[01:48] <Rico-> bina: yes
[01:48] <sjbrown> tizwonder, ncurses?
[01:48] <tizwonder> djm62: do you know if xgl and enlightenment bth support 64?
[01:48] <Bluhd> mcphail, that's what I thought. Thanks :)
[01:48] <eyequeue> bina, only write to ntfs in ms
[01:48] <surgy> bina: thats a mater of opinion personally i dont trust any of them
[01:48] <bina> Rico-: right, ill see if i can buy that tomorrow then.
[01:49] <eyequeue> tizwonder, #ubuntu-xgl for that
[01:49] <djm62> tizwonder: enlightenment will support anything, I suspect.  on ubuntu, I don't know what the situation is with xgl stuff, but there is a channel for it
[01:49] <Rico-> how easy is it to install murrine?
[01:49] <Bluhd> tizwonder: I remember that I couldn't get compiz working properly under x64 though.
[01:49] <surgy> bina i whould change you ntfs partion from a windows install if possible
[01:49] <LinuxManMikeC> moparfan90: to connect to your friend's computer you will need to have a user account on it ...
[01:49] <eyequeue> !info murrine
[01:49] <ubotu> Package murrine does not exist in any distro I know
[01:50] <bina> surgy: hmm, ok i'll see if i can get a partition manager.
[01:50] <Bluhd> murrine is something you'll have to get from gnome-look
[01:50] <zcat[1] > Personally, I suggest using a new drive (they're dirt cheap these days) or better get a good spec 2nd hand machine to learn ubuntu on. Dual-boot is teh suck!
[01:50] <Rico-> ah, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[01:50] <Bluhd> www.gnome-look.org
[01:50] <eyequeue> Rico-, not in ubuntu ^^
[01:50] <Bluhd> yeah
[01:50] <Bluhd> lol
[01:50] <bina> Bluhd, surgy, eyequeue, Rico-: thanks
[01:50] <brendonjt> kia ora one and all
[01:50] <Bluhd> bina: no problem
[01:50] <Rico-> it would be nice to package it
[01:50] <codecaine> why is ubuntu so slow on certain websites like myspace
[01:50] <codecaine> to a point it almost freezes?
[01:50] <codecaine> with firefox
[01:50] <Bluhd> Rico-: it's packaged in a .deb, but not in a repo.
[01:50] <eyequeue> codecaine, why would anyone go there?
[01:50] <Bluhd> I agree.
[01:50] <cafuego> codecaine: Does that run flash applets and other advertising shit or something?
[01:51] <Rico-> Bli
[01:51] <djm62> eyequeue: we were all young once
[01:51] <Rico-> Bluhd: just noticed that, cheers
[01:51] <codecaine> I heard it got bloaded with stuff it don't need durning compile
[01:51] <codecaine> yes
[01:51] <LinuxManMikeC> moparfan90: then you can use the command   ssh -CNT -L 5900:localhost:5900 <your friend's ip or url>
[01:51] <eyequeue> codecaine, ask the ^$WQ$* who coded the page in particular
[01:51] <Bluhd> djm62: I'm only 16 and I despise myspace like nothing else
[01:51] <cafuego> codecaine: There's your problem then. Flash.
[01:51] <f4t4l`> I need help
[01:51] <Rico-> codecaine: i had an issue where ubuntu automatically added my router to the DNS servers list, in addition to my custom DSN entries
[01:51] <Rico-> *DNS
[01:51] <djm62> Bluhd: congratulations
[01:51] <Rico-> that made every site slow
[01:51] <eyequeue> djm62, i wasn't stupid when young
[01:51] <codecaine> I run flash on youtube and other sites
[01:51] <Rico-> other question to tunneled X folks: is it as simple as running ssh -X on the remote machine?
[01:52] <djm62> eyequeue: be careful saying that kind of thing, stupid is relative ;)
[01:52] <eyequeue> Rico-, that's on the local end
[01:52] <Rico-> :/
[01:52] <codecaine> can't I compile firefox from scratch on ubuntu?
[01:52] <eyequeue> djm62, you know my relatives? ;-P
[01:52] <cafuego> codecaine: You can, but you wouldn't gain anything.
[01:52] <eyequeue> !b-e > codecaine
[01:53] <Bluhd> codecaine: cafuego is right. compiling it doesn't do anything new unless it's a version without a precompile already available
[01:53] <Rico-> eyequeue: whoops, i meant the machine connecting to this one.
[01:53] <braniff> how well does the stock 64 bit ubuntu smp kernel support the Pentium D ?? (i have had random lockup due to a kernel issue in fedora)
[01:53] <eyequeue> Rico-, yeah then
[01:53] <cafuego> codecaine: You're better off going to about:config and tweaking a few things.
[01:53] <brendonjt> anyone here  tried edgy,  what is it like???
[01:54] <zcat[1] > firefox shouldn't add DNS to anything.. perhaps you have DHCP from the router adding the router as a DNS server?
[01:54] <cafuego> (ie: disable ipv6 and accelerate loading and rendering)
[01:54] <codecaine> ah ok
[01:54] <Rico-> eyequeue: i assume once i run ssh -X i then need to start a new xsession that connects to localhost on some port?
[01:54] <Rico-> or is this done automatically?
[01:54] <Bluhd> I've got a question about Edgy (I heard this from a friend)... will Edgy actually have a generic x86_64 kernel that allows an install to be both 32-bit and 64-bit? (without needing two OS's?)
[01:54] <brendonjt> even though it still in dev stage,  was thinking about installing it and giving it a crack
[01:54] <eyequeue> Rico-, um if you ssh -X localhost, i suppose
[01:54] <Rico-> eyequeue: port tunneling confuses me ;)
[01:54] <eyequeue> brendonjt, /list #ubuntu+1
[01:54] <cafuego> Rico-: After yoy 'ssh -X' you can just run X apps. Note: use 'ssh -C -X' for speed.
[01:55] <eyequeue> Rico-, you're effectively giving "permission" for x apps
[01:55] <brendonjt> eyequeue:yip  i know the channel  i was in the last night,  but was wondering what the opinions of ppl here were
[01:55] <Rico-> cafuego/eyequeue: what i'd like to do is connect to a remote computer's xsession and take it over.
[01:55] <jwl007|wed_stuff> hello everyone
[01:55] <cafuego> Rico-: Only if they have vnc or somesuch running.
[01:55] <eyequeue> brendonjt, it's off topic for here, it's only over there that it's discussed
[01:55] <chamo> i can't mount NFS drive, mount failed, reason : permission denied, but I seem to have configured everything well
[01:55] <chamo> any help ?
[01:56] <brendonjt> eyequeue:  ok sorry,
[01:56] <Rico-> i guess i'll look into XDMCP or vnc
[01:56] <cafuego> chamo: Check syslog on the nfs server.
[01:56] <chamo> cafuego, what cmd?
[01:56] <cafuego> Rico-: UOn ubuntu, you can tick a box in the remote desktop prefs to make vnc work.
[01:56] <eyequeue> Rico-, most would consider that a privacy invasion, i guess if they enable vnc they don't mind
[01:57] <moparfan90> how do i remote desktop to a windows PC?.. without installig anything on the windows pc
[01:57] <moparfan90> ?
[01:57] <Rico-> eyequeue: i'm trying to connect to my home pc from work, so there's no privacy issue
[01:57] <compu73rg33k> What's the "label" when partitioning a harddrive in the ubuntu install ?
[01:57] <eyequeue> Rico-, i'm talking in general.  but enable vnc the next time you are home then
[01:57] <cafuego> moparfan90: Use the remote desktop application, it speaks windows desktop sharing
[01:57] <Rico-> moparfan90: you need XP professional and you need to enable remote desktop on that computer. then you can use Terminal Server Client, which comes with ubuntu
[01:58] <mcphail> compu73rg33k: 83 for a linux partition, 82 for swap
[01:58] <Rico-> eyequeue: ok, i assume vnc is easy to setup?
[01:58] <braniff> Rico-, ssh into your home box and then install and enable vnc
[01:58] <cafuego> RDP/RDPv5
[01:58] <compu73rg33k> oh mcphail label is the type?
[01:58] <moparfan90> yeah i know. what proocal?
[01:58] <eyequeue> Rico-, i never have, but i assume if you can work from command line, you can connfigure it
[01:58] <cafuego> Rico-: Log in to Ubuntu, then 'Preferences -> Remote Desktop'
[01:58] <mcphail> compu73rg33k: i would assume so. Does it make sense in context?
[01:59] <cafuego> Rico-: After that, you can ssh or vnc in.
[01:59] <Rico-> cafuego: can't believe i never noticed that item.
[01:59] <chamo> got it!
[01:59] <chamo> had to relaunch nfs server
[01:59] <cafuego> ie: ssh _X in and run vnc localhost
[01:59] <compu73rg33k> mcphail: I guess. I Mean it just says "label" I'm at the very beginning of a ubuntu install in the "manual partition" section
[01:59] <motin> Great news I just read! - "In August 2006 at his (Richard Stallman's) meetings with the goverment of the Indian State of Kerala, he persuaded officials to discard proprietary software, such as Microsoft, at state-run schools. This has resulted in a landmark decision to switch all school computers in 12,500 high schools from Windows to a free software operating system." - I wanna see and hear it all, but the page only allows audio OR video.
[01:59] <motin>  How to I combine them easily, you know? http://www.sweden.fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3/bangalore-rms-transcript
[01:59] <compu73rg33k> when it comes up I think you can put any words in too though ... i donno :\
[01:59] <djm62> one more shot: any takers on why my LG DVD/CD writer doesn't write but does read? to save me wasting more CDs trying to work it out?
[01:59] <hikenboot> hello all--quick question is there any way with the ubuntu live cd to get information on the exact configuration of memory hardware such as single channel PC100 dual channel memroy timings and dimm layout such as 8x64?
[01:59] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, what name do you want it to have?  label
[02:00] <Rico-> ok, i've got it working in localhost. what's the default vnc port for my firewall?
[02:00] <mcphail> compu73rg33k: i think that is different then
[02:00] <chamo> 5700 ?
[02:00] <compu73rg33k> well eyequeue it's just hte root partition...so just type root?
[02:00] <compu73rg33k> or /
[02:00] <adamant1988> is ndiswrapper-utils available on the ubuntu cd?
[02:00] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, any string you like
[02:00] <cafuego> Rico-: Don't; tunnel it over ssh (really!)
[02:00] <ech0> i just accidently installed nforce network drivers which knocked me off the internet
[02:00] <ech0> how do i get my old ones back
[02:00] <compu73rg33k> eyequeue: what label did you give your / partition ?
[02:00] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, root
[02:00] <Rico-> cafuego: oh right, of course. so to clarify this in my stupid brain, ssh -X homepc, vncviewer localhost:0
[02:01] <compu73rg33k> and then your usr partition was "usr" ?
[02:01] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, well, similar i guess
[02:01] <ron_o> djm62, if it makes you feel any bettter I have the same problems on a cdrw.
[02:01] <compu73rg33k> yeah me too mcphail although mount point is another setting lol
[02:01] <eyequeue> mcphail, no, it's ifnored except for informational displays
[02:01] <ron_o> the only way I solved the problem was to use knoppix to burn my cds...
[02:01] <ron_o> sorry. :(
[02:01] <mcphail> eyequeue: aah
[02:01] <eyequeue> mcphail, think "fsck is telling you what is broken" :)
[02:01] <brendonjt> ok just out of interest , is it possible to have you /home on one hdd and the /swap and / on another hdd?
[02:01] <djm62> ron_o: man, knowing you have problems doesn't make me feel good :) that's like Certain Other Linux Channels
[02:02] <mcphail> eyequeue: got you
[02:02] <eyequeue> brendonjt, certainly
[02:02] <compu73rg33k> also what's the normal partition scheme for ubuntu? / /usr /home /swap good enough?
[02:02] <cafuego> Rico-: Yup, or you could portforward (ssh -L 5700:localhost:5700 remotehost; then 'vncviewver localhost' locally)
[02:02] <cafuego> or 5900 actually I think.
[02:02] <brendonjt> ie have /home on hdb1  and /swap and / on hdaX
[02:02] <mcphail> compu73rg33k: oh well, looks as if it is an opportunity to be creative :)
[02:02] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, "anything the user wants" :)
[02:02] <ron_o> but I also had problems on windows as well. :/
[02:02] <ron_o> perhaps too old of a cd burner?
[02:03] <ron_o> but that can't be your problem.
[02:03] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, i [ersonally like /var separate too, as it likes to overfill
[02:03] <compu73rg33k> haha eyequeue got chya :P I usually do 5 GB / 5 GB /usr .5GB /swap and a big home partition :)
[02:03] <djm62> ron_o: pretty much brand new
[02:03] <Rico-> cafuego: this seems a bit strange though - tunneling VNC over X. but I suppose you can't do the same thing just using X on its own.
[02:03] <compu73rg33k> alright, how much you suggest for that? 10 or 15 GB good enough?
[02:03] <brendonjt> eyequeue:  cheers  just a bit use to the  mandrake install which lets you allocate which drives and partitions you want mounted and where
[02:03] <jwl007> can i please have some assistance from an ubuntu wireless expert on installing my seemingly impossible wireless card?
[02:03] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, someone in this channel just wiped out his / because of mysql filling /var (which was on his single ext3)
[02:04] <zcat[1] > jwl007: advice from a nonexpert.. get a cheap, well supported card and throw the unworkable one away :)
[02:04] <jwl007> hehe
[02:04] <eyequeue> brendonjt, um, i get that option on ubuntu too, heh
[02:04] <jackspratt> :p
[02:04] <compu73rg33k> heh nice eyequeue thanks for the advice then, I'll make it separate and give it 15 GB since I have a decent sized 320 GB of hdd space :)
[02:04] <eyequeue> !hardware
[02:04] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:04] <zcat[1] > unless it's built in, which kinda sucks.
[02:05] <mcphail> compu73rg33k: i wouldn't restrict /usr to 5G
[02:05] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, :)
[02:05] <jwl007> nah, it worked in breezy, its pcmcia
[02:05] <compu73rg33k> mcphail: 10 GB?
[02:05] <jwl007> i think it got borked by the pcmciautils
[02:05] <djm62> jwl007: that sounds promising
[02:05] <Losty81> Hi, can any one tell me when knot cd 3 is due? I read somewhere it was around sep 11....
[02:05] <mcphail> compu73rg33k: probably ok. My /usr is just over 7G full
[02:05] <zcat[1] > worked natively, or with ndis?
[02:06] <brendonjt> eyequeue:  true it looked a wee bit more complicated than what mandrake has it set up hehe
[02:06] <compu73rg33k> hmmm...Mine's only 2GB lol
[02:06] <jwl007> i think orinoco_cs, not su re
[02:06] <compu73rg33k> that's on slackware too
[02:06] <mcphail> compu73rg33k: but i would never have /usr mounted separartely from /, unless i was going to be secure and mount it read-only
[02:06] <lupine_85> jwl007: not an expert, but what chipset it is?
[02:06] <jwl007> hermes
[02:06] <Toasted> greets
[02:07] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, you want my real advice then, with all that?
[02:07] <braniff> can i use the amd64 ubuntu iso to install to an intel 64 bit cpu ??
[02:07] <compu73rg33k> eyequeue: yes please
[02:07] <djm62> jwl007: what goes wrong? how far do you get with it?
[02:07] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, make all the separate partitions the installer offers you, even if /home is a bot cramped ... run it until late october when edgy is released
[02:08] <jwl007> well it shows correctly in the device manager, and i can see the pci ID via lspci, but i run iwconfig, and get "no wireless extensions" for lo,eth0,and sit0
[02:08] <lupine_85> ok, so there's a native driver.. .orinoco_cs ?
[02:08] <compu73rg33k> eyequeue: what's edgy?
[02:08] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, then, run "df -h" and see what YOU really use, with your usage patterns, and do a fresh install with those numbers
[02:08] <djm62> is there a wireless module loaded?
[02:08] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, version 6.10, successor to dapper
[02:08] <jwl007> like wlan-ng or whatnot?
[02:08] <djm62> jwl007: yeah
[02:09] <compu73rg33k> oh, Well I dont' want to do another install in a month lol
[02:09] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, give things a bit of extra room to breathe then of course
[02:09] <jwl007> djm62, i believe so, would that interfere?
[02:09] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, late october
[02:09] <Losty81> !edgy
[02:09] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:09] <eyequeue> thanks Losty81
[02:09] <lupine_85> jwl007: generally you want to use the native driver :)
[02:09] <Losty81> !schedule
[02:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:09] <compu73rg33k> I think I'll just go with 10 GB /    10 GB /usr    250 GB /home   30 GB /var
[02:09] <jwl007> lupine, i tried ndis with the driver on the Cards CD, and it didnt like that driver (XP,2000, or 98)
[02:09] <djm62> jwl007: not if it was loaded with the intention of supporting the card (which maybe doesn't imply the same module as before, IIRC)
[02:10] <mad_max> i installed MEPIS on a slave HDD, installed grub to MBR, I lost ubuntu on master, What lines do i need to add to menu list to fix grub ?
[02:10] <eyequeue> compu73rg33k, you may be a mail spool freak, or may run news servers, others may collect huge pron videos in /home, heh
[02:10] <Losty81> new cd due in a few days....alright!
[02:10] <moparfan90> whats the folder that the .html goes in.. for apache2?
[02:10] <eyequeue> moparfan90, you may be thinking of /var/www/
[02:10] <lupine_85> jwl007: when I say "native", I mean "linux-native" :)
[02:11] <cafuego> compu73rg33k: Honestly, 10Gb /, rest /home
[02:11] <moparfan90> yes thanks
[02:11] <cafuego> compu73rg33k: (On a desktop box, anyway)
[02:11] <compu73rg33k> eyequeue: I will be using it as a home server, run a blog on it, MAYBE DNS and definitely a asterisk server
[02:11] <brainiac> hello... does anybody if there is any edgy related channel?
[02:12] <ravenous> brainiac: #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <krazykit> brainiac: #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <cafuego> brainiac: #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <brainiac> thx
[02:12] <eyequeue> compengi, apache2 will take up /var mostly, with some /etc files too
[02:12] <brendonjt> !edgy
[02:12] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:12] <mad_max> !grub
[02:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:12] <jwl007> wheres the wireless interfaces file again?
[02:12] <jwl007> :(
[02:12] <krazykit> mcphail: reinstalling without losing your home folder.
[02:12] <eyequeue> mcphail, edgy recommends a fresh install, /home means no data loss of wedding pics or whatever
[02:12] <cafuego> mcphail: Makes it easy to trash / and reinstall whilst keeping /home
[02:13] <ravenous> mcphail: /home is a great reason for having a seperate partition, if your system goes down, or you upgrade to a new version, you can fresh install and keep your settings
[02:13] <mcphail> nah. $HOME should die with the distro
[02:13] <cafuego> mcphail: .. or use the same /home on a different distro.
[02:13] <lupine_85>  /etc/network/interfaces is where all the network config details go
[02:13] <lupine_85> cafuego: /me does that
[02:13] <djm62> jwl007: is it not configured from /etc/network/interfaces
[02:13] <krazykit> didn't dapper suggest a clean install too?
[02:13] <eyequeue> mcphail, seriously, ask anyone who had to do an involuntary reinstall of any *nix :(
[02:13] <Zorlac> is ubuntu a 'legacy' operating sysem?
[02:13] <eyequeue> krazykit, while in development, only
[02:13] <cafuego> lupine_85: It's really the only sane way ;-)
[02:13] <cafuego> Zorlac: No
[02:13] <djm62> Zorlac: it will be :)
[02:13] <tizwonder> anyone here know alot about ubuntu-xgl???
[02:13] <ravenous> even voluntary, i prefer fresh installs to dist-upgrades any day
[02:13] <eyequeue> Zorlac, i doubt it.  define
[02:14] <mcphail> eyequeue: that's what backups are for. It is much worse having your config files out of sync with your current distro
[02:14] <krazykit> meh, i'll fight through any issue while dist-upgrading my desktop.
[02:14] <jwl007> djm62, how would i compile the kernel with the hermes wireless chipset (i heard something about menuconfig)
[02:14] <ravenous> tizwonder: in #ubuntu-xgl they probably do
[02:14] <ech0> how do i roll back a driver?
[02:14] <eyequeue> tizwonder, not here but in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:14] <lupine_85> jwl007: it should already be compiled
[02:14] <tizwonder> Um. no one in ubuntu-xgl has talked for 20 mins
[02:14] <krazykit> ech0: no such thing.  you can compile an older version, maybe
[02:14] <djm62> jwl007: you shurely don't need that.  Are you on a vanilla dapper install?
[02:14] <eyequeue> !patience > tizwonder
[02:14] <ech0> specifically, how do i roll back to the previous network driver i had installed
[02:14] <motin> How can i join two .ogg - files - one containg audio and the other video - into one with synced lips?
[02:14] <cafuego> tizwonder: That's because their X is either running slowly or is being retarted.
[02:14] <cafuego> restarted
[02:14] <jwl007> djm62, yes
[02:15] <lupine_85> jwl007: here it is: orinoco_pci.ko
[02:15] <brendonjt> was looking at doing a dist-upgrade last night and it looked good, lots of new things in it as well
[02:15] <krazykit> ech0: did you just upgrade from 5.10?
[02:15] <ech0> krazykit: i installed some nforce driver by accident and my network card went out
[02:15] <jwl007> ok
[02:15] <lupine_85> in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[02:15] <cafuego> motin: Kino or CInelerra
[02:15] <jwl007> just edit my interfaces file for that?
[02:15] <djm62> jwl007: sudo modprobe orino<tab> :)
[02:15] <krazykit> ech0: oh, i dunno then.  how do you "accidentally" install nforce drivers?
[02:15] <lupine_85> first run lsmod to see if it's already installed
[02:15] <motin> cafuego: Kino just supports DV-files at first glance. you know better=
[02:15] <motin> ?
[02:15] <lupine_85> if not, then modprobe it
[02:15] <eyequeue> brendonjt, /list #ubuntu+1 before you do it :)
[02:15] <lupine_85> jwl007: no - that's for software settings :)
[02:15] <cafuego> cinelerra it is, then.
[02:15] <krazykit> ech0: assuming you had to "make install" stuff, i'd say just go to the source folder and "make uninstall"
[02:16] <ech0> krazykit: i meant to install it for the sound drivers, i didn't notice that the network drivers were included
[02:16] <tizwonder> when i try to install gnome-compiz-manager - synaptic says they have unresolveable dependencies???
[02:16] <jwl007> lupine_85m "FATAL: orinico_pci.ko not found"
[02:16] <ech0> krazykit: is there a download for the drivers ubuntu uses for network cards?
[02:16] <krazykit> ech0: hum.  i have no experience with nforce drivers.  maybe figure out which modules are the nforce ethernet drivers and blacklist them in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:17] <lupine_85> orinoco_pci
[02:17] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> ls
[02:17] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lol
[02:17] <lupine_85> modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco_pci.ko
[02:17] <lupine_85> assuming it isn't already installed
[02:18] <djm62> lupine_85: is there a reason that's better than just sudo modprobe orinoco_pci ?
[02:18] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> ok it is installed, but iwconfig does not show it :-/
[02:18] <TehUni> i think the official nvidia drivers (from nvidia website) are newer than mine. How can i check? and if they are newer, should i upgrade?
[02:18] <lupine_85> erm, I was thinking insmod :)
[02:18] <lupine_85> jwl007|ubu_n00b: ok, now modprobe orinoco
[02:18] <brendonjt> eyequeue:  been there  and they say don't use it blah blah,  but if people  don't use it install it, then how are dev team going to get things sorted out
[02:19] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lupine_85, done
[02:19] <lupine_85> anything show up yet? :)
[02:19] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> no :(
[02:19] <lupine_85> any messages in dmesg?
[02:19] <djm62> jwl007|ubu_n00b: sudo modprobe orinoco_cs
[02:19] <djm62> for the pcmcia card
[02:19] <lupine_85> it's pci, isn't it jwl007|ubu_n00b ?
[02:20] <lupine_85> there's also a hermes.ko modules
[02:20] <eyequeue> brendonjt, i'm not saying don't, i'm suggesting the cautions in the /topic, so you don't go into it blindly :)  by all means, if you're skilled certainly do test it and help file bugs :))
[02:20] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> hermes is already installed
[02:20] <TehUni> tiger
[02:20] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lupine_85, it is pcmcia
[02:20] <lupine_85> ok :)
[02:20] <eyequeue> brendonjt, just (of course) don't trust it with critical data/systems :)
[02:20] <lupine_85> and you're sure this is the right chipset?
[02:21] <brendonjt> eyequeue:  me not a skilled i use it home for my desktop and my volinteer work(which is ubuntu advocacy)
[02:21] <lupine_85> (you will want to remove orinoco_pci and replace with orinoco_cs)
[02:21] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> after googling for like 3 weeks who knows
[02:21] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lol
[02:21] <lupine_85> yes, it does seem like a bit of a PITA
[02:21] <djm62> jwl007|ubu_n00b: did it work with the liveCD?
[02:22] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> djm62, negative
[02:22] <Marsmensch> !edgy screenshot
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy screenshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <lupine_85> jwl007|ubu_n00b: I take it you know about http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html ?
[02:23] <eyequeue> brendonjt, you sound like you could be perfect for testing it though, having the motivation to file good bug reports (even if they don't come with the fix in a patch file, heh)
[02:23] <djm62> jwl007|ubu_n00b: anything on the hardware wiki on it?
[02:23] <coredata> hi
[02:23] <djm62> but I must sleep
[02:23] <djm62> laters2tha0ll
[02:24] <cvt> why doesn't my desktop reflect the files i've downloaded to it?
[02:24] <coredata> I'll think about it
[02:24] <eobanb_> cvt, are you positive they're on your desktop
[02:24] <dave> I just installed Ubuntu and so far, I love it.  I still have a few questions though  I was wondering does ubuntu support the use of webcams.  If so, what would you recommend?   I have a Creative Labs Video Blaster WebCam Plus. I was wondering if this would work with Ubuntu.
[02:24] <lupine_85> !webcam
[02:24] <eobanb_> !webcam
[02:24] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:24] <brendonjt> eyequeue: my partner calls my computer my wife as i am always on it lol
[02:24] <dave> Any suggestions?
[02:25] <lupine_85> check the ^ list ^ :)
[02:25] <cvt> eobanb,  yes. when i go to desktop from nautilus they're there. but when i look at my desktop they're not there
[02:25] <dave> hey thank you for the info.
[02:25] <cvt> eobanb,  and i've rearranged the icons in every way
[02:26] <Zorlac> any have any idea what "Serial-ATA BOOTROM" might be
[02:26] <eyequeue> brendonjt, i'll avoid the bad puns :)  but i assume you've seen the "touch;mount" etc sequence? :)
[02:26] <eobanb_> cvt, open a terminal and type ls ~/Desktop/
[02:26] <brendonjt> eyequeue: lol  hehe,
[02:26] <philc> I want to searI want to replace the text of a file defined by a regular expression with some other text; is sed the best way to do this?
[02:27] <mad_max> what shell command is needed to list all hdd's and o/s installed ?
[02:27] <lupine_85> philc: yep
[02:27] <cvt> eobanb,  yep it shows them then. but when i look at the desktop they're not there
[02:27] <krazykit> philc: yeah.
[02:27] <eyequeue> brendonjt, family channel and all, but i figured you'd get the idea, heh
[02:27] <lupine_85> mad_max: mount -l ? sudo fdisk -l ?
[02:27] <brendonjt> eyequeue: lol  yip
[02:28] <Grok_> had an issue with ndiswrapper that required me to remove it. unfortunately he had not installed it using make so i removed it manually per the instructions on the ndiswrapper sourceforge site. even after completely removing all traces from the system a modprobe -l | grep ndiswrapper still showed a listing for the .ko file even though that file no longer existed. what did i miss and was it truly still loaded?
[02:28] <thedash> why did my Ubuntu create a folder called "Examples" in my home folder?
[02:28] <Flannel> thedash: it must be some other program you've run, ubuntu doesn't.
[02:28] <eyequeue> thedash, from the livecd?
[02:28] <thedash> nope
[02:28] <ravenous> thedash: to give you examples of things?
[02:28] <brendonjt> eyequeue: hey  i installed gnucash 2 last night but had to install a couple of other pachages to make it work  how can i find out what those packages  were i used synaptic
[02:28] <abarbaccia> hello all - anybody know why i would be getting this error when compiling??    /usr/include/qt3/qgl.h:79:20 GL/gl.h: No such file or directory
[02:28] <krazykit> Grok_: you can just rmmod it... unless this is AFTER a reboot or something...
[02:28] <ravenous> Flannel: nope default ubuntu install puts it there afaik, my last two have
[02:28] <thedash> I have had Ubuntu installed for a couple weeks, and just now [when I rebooted] , did it put it there
[02:28] <krazykit> abarbaccia: you're missing some -dev headers.
[02:29] <lupine_85> abarbaccia: are your qt headers installed?
[02:29] <abarbaccia> lupine_85: do you know a package name?
[02:29] <Flannel> ravenous: For dapper?  odd.  mine one dapper install doesn't have them.
[02:29] <eyequeue> brendonjt, you're thinking of an aptitude-only feature, i think, but i can give you some brute-force methods to see (not too awfully bad though)
[02:29] <krazykit> Grok_: if you've rebooted and it's still there, uh, slocate ndiswrapper to see if there's anything left
[02:29] <thedash> its locked, and has presentations and logos for Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu
[02:29] <ravenous> Flannel:  unless im installing something i need -right- after install thats putting it there, but i dont see what that would be. i figured it was an open office thing i guess
[02:29] <eyequeue> brendonjt, first of all, apt-cache depends gnucash2, the list may have something in it that rings a bell
[02:30] <Flannel> brendonjt: you can also use debfoster/deborphan (one of the two is 'better', Don't remember which)
[02:30] <Grok_> krazykit, multiple reboots...did not do a rmmod though i did do a modprobe -r ndiswrapper...i did a locate and the only thing it showed were the files from the original unzip he did in his home directory
[02:30] <brendonjt> eyequeue: true i was in synaptic at the time should have used apt-get then i could have scrolled back and found out ae
[02:30] <lupine_85> no, sorry. apt-cache search qt |grep dev will give you a list
[02:30] <eyequeue> brendonjt, second, less /var/log/dpkg.log (or zless /var/log/dpkg.1.log.gz etc)
[02:30] <ravenous> thedash: regardless it wont affect anything to delete it
[02:30] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> grr
[02:31] <krazykit> Grok_: modprobe -r and rmmod are the same, i think.  but if it's still loaded... check dmesg.  if it's actually loaded, it ought to spew something out
[02:31] <eyequeue> brendonjt, neother of those will be explicit about it, but your memory may be triggered enough
[02:31] <archangelpetro> sup PathagenX :D
[02:31] <brendonjt> eyequeue: hehe  thanks
[02:31] <cvt> after i've cd to the desktop what's the command to install an app?
[02:31] <mad_max> lupine_85, does not give detailed info. i installed MEPIS , grub to MBR and lost ubuntu. trying to add lines needed in menu list to get ubuntu back
[02:31] <eyequeue> brendonjt, another handy app, presuming we're talking about libs here, is deborphan, after you rm gnucash2
[02:31] <eyequeue> deborphan (1)        - Orphaned package finder
[02:32] <PathagenX> Still working on my UbuntuROX distro
[02:32] <abarbaccia> lupine_85: how would i find which package provides those headers?
[02:32] <lupine_85> mad_max: all you need for that is to know what partition ubuntu was installed on
[02:32] <Grok_> krazykit, but by all rights after doing all of that it should have been unloaded correct? i was trying to get him ready to switch from using ndiswrapper to using the bcom fwcutter driver. am hoping there's nothing left there to foul it up.
[02:33] <mad_max> lupine_85, i installed mepis to a slave drive
[02:33] <five_laptop> is there a way to VNC to a second screen on an X server?  I have a TV-Out screen I want to vnc specifically to
[02:33] <archangelpetro> oh?
[02:33] <lupine_85> mad_max: sorry, that means nothing really. Your best bet is to mount partitions randomly until you find it
[02:33] <krazykit> Grok_: ack.  the bcm driver is crummy in dapper, in my experience, but yeah, it SHOULDN'T be loading.
[02:33] <lupine_85> then add the details to your /etc/grub/menu.lst
[02:34] <eyequeue> five_laptop, i presume with some scripting and !xinerama, but don't have experience there
[02:34] <lupine_85> dapper's wireless drivers are incredibly out of date :(
[02:34] <eyequeue> !xinerama > five_laptop
[02:34] <krazykit> lupine_85: to be fair, dapper's several months old anyway ;-)
[02:34] <archangelpetro> wb
[02:35] <Grok_> krazykit, i agree it's not the best but after trying every conceivable way to get the ndiswrapper loaded i finally said eff it and whacked it and pointed him to the community docs link with the how-to
[02:35] <lupine_85> as in, a year out of date
[02:35] <lupine_85> possibly longer, for others
[02:35] <krazykit> Grok_: then try adding ndiswrapper to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and see if that helps
[02:36] <philc> I'm trying to substitute one string for another in many files. I can do it with sed for one file; can I write a sed command that can replace a string in all files, and write each one back to disk? Or is there an easy bash idiom for "for all files in this directory, do {} " ?
[02:36] <Grok_> krazykit, this will keep modprobe from loading it?
[02:36] <krazykit> Grok_: yeah, it should
[02:36] <ravenous> Grok_: yes it will prevent it
[02:36] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lupine_85:  this is the same card i have http://nakedape.cc/wiki/FedoraNotes, and i still cant get it to work
[02:37] <ravenous> i have to do the opposite actually and blacklist a network kernel module to get ndiswrapper to work heh
[02:38] <surgy> join #cedega
[02:38] <mad_max> lupine_85, can you give detalied info how to mount part ramdomly ? sorry about my newness
[02:38] <krazykit> ravenous: yeah, me too.  i hope it's gotten better more recently
[02:38] <lupine_85> ok, so modprobe orinoco_cs should get it working... is it possible they've changed chipsets in the meantime?
[02:38] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> dont believe so
[02:38] <ravenous> krazykit: yeah hopefully, im still on dapper but im hoping for a little less headache in edgy
[02:39] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> linux-wlan lists it as prism2 though
[02:39] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> so i have no idea
[02:39] <lupine_85> mad_max: not really. It's your system - you should know what partition it's on.
[02:39] <mad_max> how right you are
[02:39] <surgy> can someone tell me the defualt driectory of grub.conf please?
[02:39] <krazykit> ravenous: i'm about ready to just buy a ralink minipci card :-/... the rt2500 drivers are rather good.
[02:39] <jrib> philc: sed -i -e blah file1 file2 ...     <-- this works so just use * as the files
 you going to install  fresh edgy  or dist-upgrade
[02:39] <eyequeue> surgy, not in ubuntu
[02:39] <cvt> how do i install a .deb package on my desktop?
[02:39] <lupine_85> prism2/orinoco are very similar
[02:39] <ravenous> brendonjt: i wont dist-upgrade at all, just personal preference
[02:39] <lupine_85> edgy install cd seems broken right now
[02:40] <krazykit> cvt: sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/your.deb
[02:40] <mad_max> <goes running thru machine looking for @#%^
[02:40] <eyequeue> surgy, /boot/grub/menu.lst instead
[02:40] <ravenous> krazykit: right, im kicking this broadcom mess even still here ;/
[02:40] <surgy> eyequeue: please elaborate
[02:40] <lupine_85> even the 10/9/06 one is being a pain
[02:40] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lupine_85, should prism2 work with the orinoco mod?
[02:40] <philc> jrib: ah, missed that -i option! Thanks!
[02:40] <brendonjt> cvt: sudo dpgk -i package name
[02:40] <surgy> thank you eye
[02:40] <Zorlac> Whats the best way to copy an entire hd to hd, simple cp /hd1/* /hd2/* ?
[02:40] <lupine_85> jwl007|ubu_n00b: no, they work with prism2/prism2_cs.ko
[02:41] <ikaruga> hi all, just install Dapper. And firefox is giving me "XML Parsing Error" whenever I try to open the preferences
[02:41] <lupine_85> Zorlac: cp -a yes
[02:41] <krazykit> though the devicescape branch is in git... maybe i'll try that if the edgy driver doesn't work.
[02:41] <lupine_85> devicescape++
[02:41] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lupine_85, i suppose i have to uninstall orinoco to give prism2 a shot?
[02:41] <lupine_85> it'd be best to, yes
[02:42] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lupine_85, i tried to remove it, but apparently it is in use?
[02:42] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> :O
[02:42] <lupine_85> then you should have an interface somewhere :)
[02:42] <lupine_85> if not, then it's just another module
[02:42] <jrib> philc: if you ever come across a command where you do have to call it several times and it won't take a list of files you could use a for loop by the way
[02:42] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> sonofa this is hard
[02:42] <lupine_85> sudo modprobe -r will resolve dependencies for you
[02:42] <chamo> is there a way to see transfer speed in Nautilus when you copy/paste ?
[02:43] <philc> jrib: I was thinking of that, but don't I have to extract a list of files with ls and then process each element in that list? When files have spaces you have to worry about quoting, etc. It always takes me forever to get the syntax right
[02:43] <philc> jrib: maybe should just write it in python =/
[02:43] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys how do I lock a user in a directory, and not let them cd out of it?
[02:43] <surgy> eyequeue: cedega tested my opengl rendering and i failed, this means my graphics driver still isnt set up right corect? what should i do?
[02:43] <philc> jrib: someone suggested -  for f in $(ls -1); do; sed 's/whatever/something/' "$f"; done
[02:44] <philc> jrib: -i is cleaner but I'll keep this in mind
[02:44] <eyequeue> surgy, no experience with cedga, sorry
[02:44] <jrib> philc: you could do something like: find . -print0 | xargs -0  sed ...    <-- this won't give you a problem with spaces
[02:45] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lupine_85, how do i uninstall pcmciautils
[02:45] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> i think it may be the culprit
[02:45] <surgy> etequeue: but with opengl........
[02:46] <lupine_85> apt-get remove pcmcia-utils ?
[02:46] <lupine_85> !pcmciautils
[02:46] <ubotu> pcmciautils: PCMCIA utilities for Linux 2.6. In component main, is important. Version 012-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 148 kB
[02:46] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> will the *_cs drivers work with pcmcia utils
[02:46] <lupine_85> no idea
[02:46] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> :/
[02:46] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> lol
[02:49] <Zorlac> I just ereased and made a new partion, and there is 3.78 gigs used and a folder called "lost+found" on it, what is that...
[02:50] <Blissex> Zorlac: how large is that filesystem?
[02:50] <Zorlac> 232.88 gb
[02:50] <Zorlac> ext3, the journal or something?
[02:51] <cvt> synaptic acts like it's going to load and then just disappears. how to fix?
[02:52] <Blissex> Zorlac: inode tables.
[02:52] <Flannel> cvt: are you running compiz/XGL?
[02:52] <Jones_> When I go to System/Preferences/Screen Resolution, I only get one choice(1024x768) but my card can do 800x600 and 640x480; How can I fix this so I can use the gui to change this? If I change it in xorg.conf it works, but I want to be able to use the gui.
[02:52] <cvt> Flannel,  no
[02:52] <eyequeue> cvt, start ir from terminal, see what the error is
[02:53] <R0cK3T> having trouble installing xvid (ubuntu x86_64!)  ----is there anyway i can apt-get it??
[02:53] <Healot> !libxine-extracodecs is the package you need
[02:54] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:54] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:54] <R0cK3T> awsome thanx
[02:54] <mjr> R0cK3T, or gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg if you use the default totem for playing
[02:55] <cvt>  eyequeue , it loads it then
[02:55] <mikeconcepts> anyone know of a way to play checkers against a friend using ubuntu?
[02:55] <MatBoy> Hi, I have a problem with the linux-image-2.6.17 on a Etch system that broke the whole thing... I have seen a lot on google that Ubuntu had the same. Someone had it too ?
[02:55] <mikeconcepts> any sites or downloads?
[02:55] <lupine_85> 2.6.17.9 works fine here
[02:56] <lupine_85> (rolled my own though)
[02:56] <eyequeue> cvt, can you run other gksudo apps?  or are you bitten by a variant of the firestarter bug?
[02:56] <era86> anyone here got cs 16 to work?
[02:56] <eyequeue> MatBoy, etch?  or edgy?
[02:56] <MatBoy> eyequeue, Etch, Debian
[02:57] <eyequeue> MatBoy, we don't support either here, see #debian for that
[02:57] <sysdoc> pfft lol
[02:57] <eyequeue> MatBoy, edgy is in #ubuntu+1
[02:57] <MatBoy> eyequeue, no clue there... and because it the same issue that I found on Google every time
[02:57] <cvt> eyequeue,  i can run firefox, konqueror, xchat, gkrellum, but not system monitor or synaptic for their icons
[02:57] <eyequeue> cvt, sounds like a gksudo bug :(
[02:58] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> think im just going back to windows
[02:58] <mikeconcepts> seeking checkers
[02:58] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> this sucks
[02:58] <eyequeue> cvt, are you the first-created user?
[02:58] <MatBoy> lupine_85, how did you install it if I may ask ?
[02:59] <cvt> eyequeue,  yes
[02:59] <eyequeue> cvt, you may need to edit the sudoers file :(
[02:59] <JanHammer> prod
[03:00] <reighben> hi! how do i become the "owner" so i can change permissions in the hard drive i just mounted?
[03:00] <eyequeue> cvt, comment out the line about firestarter, leave uncommented the line about the admin group, or something
[03:00] <eyequeue> cvt, sudo visudoers, in console
[03:00] <JanHammer> Question: is there a way in the boot parameters to specifiy which graphics card to point to in X?
[03:01] <eyequeue> JanHammer, no, that's not a kernel function
[03:01] <reighben> hi! how do i become the "owner" so i can change permissions in the hard drive i just mounted?
[03:01] <eyequeue> reighben, man chown
[03:02] <JanHammer> eyequeue, well, there's commands to specify drivers in the boot, correct?
[03:02] <R0cK3T> mjr: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg worked
[03:02] <JanHammer> like xforcevesa
[03:02] <Flannel> reighben: You probably don't want to chown the drive,
[03:02] <backz> do you know a soft to share my webcam in a http port?
[03:02] <R0cK3T> but there's no sound on certain files
[03:02] <eyequeue> JanHammer, which are kernel modules, yes
[03:02] <Flannel> !tell backz about webcam
[03:03] <eyequeue> reighben, you probably want to chown the mount point
[03:03] <JanHammer> eyequeue, well the deal is, my (shit) old PC has an onboard card, and an nvidia 5500. Yet there is no option in the bios to disable the onboard card
[03:04] <JanHammer> so ubuntu uses the onboard, and it happens so that it crashes X
[03:04] <chabbe> Question: Does anyone know how to get the on/off button for the wireless network card to work? Specs: Broadcom (BCM4306) WIreless Controller, HP Compaq nx9600 (Laptop)
[03:04] <eyequeue> !language
[03:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:04] <JanHammer> sorry :P
[03:04] <reighben> eyequeue, i cant transfer files to it, when i try to ubuntu says im not the owner so i cant write files on it
[03:04] <JanHammer> eyequeue, what do you think?
[03:04] <krazykit> JanHammer: you can set which graphics card to use in xorg.conf, though you may need to explicitly define the pci bus.
[03:05] <eyequeue> reighben, what fs is on it?
[03:05] <bur[n] er> any of you familiar with connecting via pptp to Windows VPN server using linux?
[03:05] <bur[n] er> i have a pptp network manager plugin, but it doesn't seem to be working
[03:05] <JanHammer> krazykit, yeah, I know that. But ubuntu uses the livecd for installation now
[03:05] <krazykit> chabbe: i think hp and compaq laptops' on/off button for wireless is hardware controlled.
[03:05] <eyequeue> JanHammer, i think krazykit's idea is closer, as it's not a kernel thing
[03:06] <krazykit> JanHammer: aaaah.  get the alternative install CD and go GUIless
[03:06] <eyequeue> JanHammer, d/l the alternate cd, no need to use the livecd :)
[03:06] <JanHammer> ahead of you :P I just came here to see if there was any hope for the livecd
[03:06] <eyequeue> krazykit, the alternate uses a gui too, only the server cd has no gui :)  or did you mean a text install of the gui maybe :)
[03:07] <ravenous> alternate is text install
[03:07] <chabbe> krazykit: do you have an idea where I can start to try and get it working. Atm I can't use my wireless card because I can't turn it on
[03:07] <JanHammer> anything without X in the picture will work
[03:07] <JanHammer> I know that
[03:07] <ravenous> at most it uses ncurses which is no x
[03:07] <krazykit> chabbe: are you sure that it's not just that the bcm-drivers suck in dapper?
[03:07] <technel> I have a directory that has a million "./*/*/.*.swp" files from VIM, any way to recursively auto-delete them all?
[03:07] <reighben> eyequeue, i'm very sorry, its my first time using ubuntu so i dont know any of the jargon.. sorry
[03:08] <eyequeue> reighben, no prob
[03:08] <eyequeue> reighben, have i lost you yet?
[03:08] <krazykit> technel: depending on your shell, you can rm it just like that.
[03:08] <backz> Flannel, my webcam dont works correctly, only in gqcam but it ever return SEGMENTATION FALT and it's a gtk1 soft. My lsusb returns: "STMicroelectronics Imaging Division (VLSI Vision) CPiA WebCam"; it dont works with camorama. do u know about this?
[03:09] <Halchaffee> can anyone help me get wireless working on ubuntu?
[03:09] <david_> I have a pcmcia usb card that worked under breezy, but no longer is recognized under dapper.  Does anyone have an insight?
[03:09] <chabbe> krazykit: I'm not sure. I have tried to install my windows drivers with ndiswrapper.. and I have tried using bcm43xx-fwcutter
[03:09] <technel> krazykit, Using the default, bash, it didn't work last time I tried it: "rm -r ./*.swp"
[03:09] <jrib> technel: you can use a combination of find and rm, or if you use zsh you can do rm **/.*.swp
[03:09] <theBeno> apt-get install lilo can't find the package.
[03:09] <david_> `1//*-+
[03:09] <whyameye_> I'm trying to get ESD to work and I am getting "unable to open slave"
[03:09] <krazykit> jrib: yay zsh!
[03:10] <technel> jrib, I don't really know how to use find/rm together
[03:10] <jrib> technel: find -iname *.swp -exec rm '{}' \;   <-- maybe?  check this...
[03:10] <Meaulnes> anyone know if there is a way with vpopmail to have virtual domains use different tcp.smtp rules?
[03:10] <krazykit> technel: to check it, use -exec echo rm '()'
[03:11] <krazykit> so you make sure you don't delete things you don't want to.
[03:11] <eyequeue> jrib, iname or name?  i don't know for sure myself
[03:11] <theBeno> Can someone see if they can access package lilo?
[03:11] <jrib> eyequeue: iname makes it case insensitive
[03:11] <saulo> hola
[03:11] <eyequeue> jrib, neat
[03:11] <eyequeue> !info lilo
[03:11] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-7ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 335 kB, installed size 1072 kB
[03:11] <saulo> ?
[03:12] <micah41> hi all
[03:12] <eyequeue> theBeno, i'll be installing it soon, if you can wait
[03:12] <theBeno> Alright
[03:12] <theBeno> eyequeue, cause I need to replace grub with lilo.
[03:12] <eyequeue> theBeno, i have to wait for this server to finish the current apt-get run first
[03:12] <theBeno> And I cann't seem to get it working.
[03:12] <theBeno> Alright.
[03:12] <theBeno> Sounds good.
[03:13] <theBeno> Thank you eyequeue.
[03:13] <theBeno> eyequeue, What ubuntu version do you have?
[03:13] <theBeno> I just installed the 6.06.1
[03:13] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> theBeno, are you running this from gnome or fluxbox, and not a tty?
[03:14] <eyequeue> theBeno, it's a slow machine, but alphabetically it's up to Preparing to replace suck 4.3.2-4 (using .../archives/suck_4.3.2-4_i386.deb) ...
[03:14] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> e.g. is xserver running?
[03:14] <theBeno> jwl007|ubu_n00b, gnome
[03:14] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> theBeno, you should be able to apt-get instal lilo np
[03:14] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> *install
[03:14] <reighben> thanks guys
[03:14] <theBeno> jwl007|ubu_n00b I get this message...
[03:14] <reighben> i finally changed to owner permissions
[03:15] <eyequeue> reighben, :)  what was it?
[03:15] <reighben> i was saying thanks
[03:15] <RMorris85> i just installed xubuntu desktop and now i want to undo the changes it made bc my xgl-compiz isnt working on my reg ubuntu desktop how can that me done
[03:15] <theBeno> Package lilo is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[03:15] <Zorlac> Okay, ubuntu keeps locking up on me when i leave it alone for a few minutes. the screen saver is disabled.
[03:15] <RMorris85> i did sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <eyequeue> ah, theBeno, see the bot
[03:15] <eyequeue> !repos > theBeno
[03:16] <reighben> umm... is there a command that would allow me to change the directory in which ubuntu installs applications?
[03:16] <Zorlac> i give up, ubuntu is dead to me, it locks up more than nwindows
[03:16] <eyequeue> nosse, it's in main, ignore that
[03:17] <eyequeue> reighben, no, that's not wise, linux uses standard locations to find things (pathname.com/fhs)
[03:17] <ravenous> RMorris85: your going to have to uninstall piece by piece .. unfortunately installing xubuntu-desktop installs everything, but apt-get isnt smart enough to remove everything when you try to do the opposite .. big flaw in my book
[03:17] <ravenous> same with installing any metapackage really
[03:17] <theBeno> eyequeue, ok... I know what repositories are...
[03:17] <eyequeue> ravenous, you may enjoy aptitide then
[03:18] <theBeno> Is mine setup wrong?
[03:18] <RMorris85> ravenous: how do i need to do that?
[03:18] <eyequeue> theBeno, it turns out lilo is in main anyway, no need for other repos
[03:18] <KanRiNiN> Hey, how do I switch a gtk2 engine?
[03:18] <KanRiNiN> thanks in advance
[03:18] <ravenous> RMorris85: go through synaptic or what have you, or try aptitude i guess
[03:18] <Jones_> When I go to System/Preferences/Screen Resolution, I only get one choice(1024x768) but my card can do 800x600 and 640x480; How can I fix this so I can use the gui to change this? If I change it in xorg.conf it works, but I want to be able to use the gui.
[03:18] <theBeno> eyequeue, so how can I install lilo?
[03:19] <reighben> eyequeue, oh okay! ty! umm.. its because the directory in which ubuntu installs files has only 1.88 GB left... in the event that i use up its memory, will it be able to install files on the hard drive i just mounted?
[03:19] <napoleon1> hi guys, have any of you any experience with apt-move? I'd like to set up a local apt repository of cached packages for my dapper installation, but 'apt-move get' doesn't list any packages, nor does 'apt-move update' do anything
[03:19] <eyequeue> theBeno, you could manually d/l it ... look in your favorite mirror, then  pool/main/l/lilo/lilo_22.6.1-7ubuntu2_i386.deb
[03:20] <eyequeue> reighben, okay, your cache may just be full ... run this, sudo apt-get clean
[03:20] <theBeno> Thanks
[03:20] <eyequeue> theBeno, no prob
[03:20] <ravenous> i hear mixing aptitude and synaptic will end up borking somehow, that they dont play nice
[03:20] <theBeno> eyequeue, is it ok that I uninstall grub via aot-get remove?  Should I have used the GUI?
[03:20] <jrib> ravenous: I've used both without any problems for almost a year now
[03:21] <eyequeue> theBeno, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb to install it, with that filename of course
[03:21] <ravenous> jrib: and you dont have any problems with packages installed in one not showing in the other?
[03:21] <wastrel> ravenous:  aptitude is a front end to synaptic iirc
[03:21] <ravenous> wastrel: uh no
[03:21] <eyequeue> theBeno, any remove should nave the same result, gui is not needed :)
[03:21] <ravenous> wastrel: they are both front end for apt-get
[03:21] <theBeno> eyequeue, sweet, thanks. :)
[03:21] <RMorris85> ravenous: im back in my ubuntu but my aiglx/compiz isnt working anymore and i know its from installing xubuntu-desktop (p.o.s.) so now i need to undo what i did
[03:21] <Gevaudan82> Has anyone here had any luck configuring firestarter to support PPTP connections? I followed the tutorial online but that did not seem to work...it connects but times out in Verifying username/password
[03:21] <reighben> eyequeue, ty! thanks for helping a newbie like me! btw, other than the fact that i need some technical know-how to run this OS, i find it to be better than windows.. hehe its even compatible with my lcd projector
[03:22] <moparfan90> is there a way to chnage your AIM icon with gaim?
[03:22] <jrib> ravenous: nope, they all use the same database afaik
[03:22] <ravenous> RMorris85: try aptitude and see if it shows the xfce package, and try and remove i guess
[03:22] <ravenous> jrib: thats true, i hadn't experience it myself just heard about it
[03:22] <eyequeue> reighben, cool, i've never had one myself :)
[03:22] <jrib> moparfan90: yes, http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q44
[03:22] <moparfan90> thanks
[03:22] <reighben> eyequeue, ty again! bye!
[03:22] <eyequeue> moparfan90, someone told me that's done via their web site?
[03:23] <sl021> i need help to install winrar
[03:23] <sl021> from a .gz
[03:24] <jrib> sl021: do you need winrar?  There is unrar in multiverse?
[03:24] <ravenous> sl021: why dont you use the rar in the repos?
[03:24] <Healot> use the repos...
[03:24] <sl021> ?
[03:24] <brendonjt> !edgy
[03:24] <Healot> !info unrar-free
[03:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:24] <britt> I need some help with ssh keys. Which key goes where, where is ssh-keygen run and how does it all work? I'm really confused.
[03:24] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:24] <ravenous> once its installed archive manager will handle rars fine
[03:24] <sl021> k
[03:24] <Healot> btw, it's RAR, not Winrar >)
[03:24] <iceleron> #
[03:24] <sl021> lol
[03:24] <R0cK3T> is there a way to apt-get codecs for kaffeine?
[03:25] <eyequeue> !codecs > R0cK3T
[03:25] <scythe> is there a way to write to ntfs partitions using the hoary live cd?
[03:25] <ravenous> R0cK3T: it just relies on libxine-extracodecs
[03:25] <R0cK3T> i did that
[03:25] <ravenous> and w32codecs
[03:25] <R0cK3T> and installed every vid player
[03:25] <eyequeue> scythe, no ntfs writes are not safe
[03:25] <R0cK3T> some have sound and no video
[03:25] <napoleon1> does anyone know how i can setup a local repository (with correct heirarchy) of cached (downloaded) deb packages for dapper in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[03:25] <R0cK3T> some have video and no sound
[03:26] <R0cK3T> none have both
[03:26] <ravenous> R0cK3T: have you installed w32codecs?
[03:26] <Gevaudan82> napoleon1: apt-proxy
[03:26] <Healot> R0cK3T: i assumed you tried the Windows Media or Quicktime movies?
[03:26] <R0cK3T> those are the ones i neede
[03:26] <R0cK3T> i have the package
[03:26] <napoleon1> Gevaudan82: for packages that have already been downloaded?
[03:26] <R0cK3T> but im 64 bit ubuntu
[03:26] <napoleon1> Gevaudan82: does it offer the simplicity of apt-move?
[03:26] <ravenous> aaah
[03:26] <R0cK3T> so it would probably work better with apt-get
[03:26] <R0cK3T> i just need the package name
[03:26] <q8i> how can i install java plug-ins in firefox ?
[03:26] <Mnabil> HEllo guys, i'm compiling 2.4 kernel and i've gcc 4 ,that can't compile this kernel so i installed gcc 2, how can i use point to use it ???
[03:26] <Gevaudan82> napoleon1: honestly i don't have any experience using it but in reading an article yesterday about setting up apt repos that seemed to be the consensus
[03:27] <ravenous> R0cK3T: w32codecs isnt in the repos so you cant apt-get it
[03:27] <scythe> grrr.... I have a dead system, no windows install disks that will work on a dell, and need to recover files (30Gb) onto a customers external NTFS drive, any suggestions?
[03:27] <eyequeue> !kernel > Mnabil
[03:27] <Gevaudan82> napoleon1: it was a slashdot post though so who knows about credibilty
[03:27] <R0cK3T> hmm
[03:27] <jrib> scythe: live cd work?
[03:27] <eyequeue> Mnabil, i'd edit the makefiles myself
[03:27] <Mnabil> eyequeue, how can i use gcc2 not for ?
[03:27] <scythe> jrib, no ntfs writes on live cd
[03:27] <Mnabil> eyequeue, how can i use gcc2 not 4 :S
[03:27] <KanRiNiN> Please guys, I've been browsing the forums.  How do I change my engine to the GTK Murrine?
[03:27] <q8i> how can i install java plug-ins in firefox ?
[03:28] <scythe> I dont have broadband, so I cannot dl another one
[03:28] <jrib> !java > q8i
[03:28] <nozorro> KanRiNiN: where did you find this engine?
[03:28] <eyequeue> Mnabil, edit the makefiles?
[03:28] <brendonjt> q8i:sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[03:28] <KanRiNiN> in the forums, it's installed just fine in synaptic
[03:28] <ravenous> R0cK3T: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats gives you the info to install it, where to get it, though i have no idea how it works under 64 if you have to use a 32bit chroot or something
[03:28] <scythe> i think suse 9.2 live cd allowed it, but that doesn't help me
[03:28] <KanRiNiN> I just have a few installed and can't figure out how to change between them
[03:28] <Iceman24k> whats the file manager for gnome
[03:29] <q8i> thanks
[03:29] <brendonjt> q8i:then  sudo update-alternatives --config java  and choose option 3
[03:29] <Mnabil> eyequeue, OMG, i've now both gcc4 and gcc2 ,  how can i use 2 instead of 4 ??
[03:29] <PolishOX> UBUNTU ROX!
[03:29] <wastrel> Iceman24k:  nautilus
[03:29] <ravenous> Iceman24k: nautilus
[03:29] <napoleon1> Gevaudan82: I may have already read it. My main concern is with the debian/ubuntu difference when it boils down to creating a release file for multiple-distributions. I'm having great difficulty creating a heirarchy for universe, multiverse etc., and I can only imagine the same level of difficulty when trying to setup aptproxy or similar. Thanks though; I'll continue searching
[03:29] <eyequeue> Mnabil, again, edit the makefiles?
[03:29] <jrib> scythe: well how about putting the hard drive on a working windows computer?
[03:29] <scythe> 2 inch hd
[03:29] <nozorro> KanRiNiN: and there isn't any theme with the same name (or a similar one)?
[03:29] <Tonren> Has anyone gotten the Murrine Metacity engine working?
[03:29] <krazykit> hrm... wonder how one burns a dmg in linux... dmg2iso fails to convert the file :-(
[03:29] <Mnabil> eyequeue,  edit the makefiles?   -> is that a question ?? or what ?
[03:30] <scythe> and I dont have the converter 40 - 44 pin for ide to laptop hd's
[03:30] <PolishOX> is this the right place to ask a question about grub and my ubuntu dual boot?
[03:30] <diego_cl> how can i install fuse ?!??!?!
[03:30] <jrib> PolishOX: go for it
[03:30] <jrib> !fuse
[03:30] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:30] <eyequeue> Mnabil, um, you're compiling a kernel for some reason, i presume (see the url the bot gave you)  therefore i presume you're fluent in editing makefiles
[03:30] <chowdaryharsha> hi....i am not able to see use my explorer...its coming that download plugin
[03:31] <ravenous> explorer?
[03:31] <scythe> does samba work off of the live cd?  maybe I can share out the resource and coppy to the ext hd using my 2k box
[03:31] <thedash> if I want a SSH-based folder automatically mounted when I log on, how do I do that?
[03:31] <eyequeue> chowdaryharsha, what is that?
[03:31] <eyequeue> thedash, see the docs with sshfs package
[03:31] <PolishOX> during my ubuntu installation (which went flawless ty ubuntu) i picked my windows os to be default in grub but now its not how can i change it without ruining everything?
[03:31] <PolishOX> <---- noob sorry
[03:31] <nozorro> thedash: the username on the other side must be the same as the local one, and ...
[03:31] <jrib> scythe: should work, you should be able to get ntfs writing to work too (same method should work as in a normal install)
[03:31] <eyequeue> thedash, it's not login based, it's boot based, not the same
[03:32] <scythe> ppolishox where did you have grub installed?
[03:32] <Tonren> Has anyone gotten the Murrine Metacity engine working?
[03:32] <crimsun> Tonren: yes.
[03:32] <beligum> hi all
[03:32] <PolishOX> winos 0;0 ubuntu 0;4
[03:32] <thedash> alright, how do I do it boot-based then?
[03:32] <chowdaryharsha> eyequeue, actually....its displaying image that ie is needed
[03:32] <crimsun> Tonren: I've already packaged it and will try and get it into the repo soon.
[03:32] <eyequeue> PolishOX, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and change ""default="
[03:32] <nozorro> thedash: and you must enter an empty passphrase when generating they key on the local machine
[03:32] <Tonren> crimsun: I downloaded the .deb package available on gnome-look.org and installed Murrine-Gilouche, but it's not showing up right.
[03:32] <thedash> did that already
[03:32] <PolishOX> ok thanks eyequeue
[03:32] <eyequeue> chowdaryharsha, you are not making sense
[03:32] <MrKeuner> hi, using dapper and having problem when burning mp3 files as audio cd using serpentine. While converting the mp3 files serpentine fails without no apparent reason. anybody having that problem?
[03:32] <crimsun> torpedo|dog: nope, I made a proper source package and pbuilt it.
[03:32] <crimsun> torpedo|dog: sorry.
[03:32] <thedash> I can connect manually, I just wanted it done automatically
[03:32] <eyequeue> chowdaryharsha, what is it you are trying to do?
[03:33] <crimsun> Tonren: nope, I made a proper source package and pbuilt it.
[03:33] <nozorro> thedash: connect using the file manager
[03:33] <Tonren> crimsun: Is that what I should do?  How do I do it?
[03:33] <crimsun> Tonren: my source package is for edgy.
[03:33] <chowdaryharsha> eyequeue, actually....i am trying to check my usage...so i opened the site,its coming internet explorer needed
[03:33] <scythe> polishox  did you install grub to the boot sector of the 1st hd?, that would have destroyed your windows bootloader, (is that right?) or did you just take the default(which I have always done and had it work)
[03:33] <Frapazoid> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the screen is set to 1024x768, but it only goes up to 800x600
[03:33] <Frapazoid> and....... i can't figure out how to change hte screen resolution
[03:34] <R0cK3T> ravenous: i dl'd the essential20.....tar.bz2, extracted it and put the files in /usr/local/lib  like the readme said
[03:34] <eyequeue> chowdaryharsha, "the" site?  i don't know what you mean
[03:34] <Tonren> crimsun: I don't understand... the .deb package I download installed successfully.  Shouldn't it be working?
[03:34] <PolishOX> mp
[03:34] <nozorro> thedash: once you have a folder on the desktop for the ssh volume, it'll re-open on each login
[03:34] <Tonren> crimsun: Should I uninstall it and build it from source?
[03:34] <Frapazoid> there's nothing about it in the administration menu or settings menu here
IE  isn't used in linux
[03:34] <PolishOX> no i installed ubuntu to partition 4
[03:34] <Frapazoid> get IE4Linux
[03:34] <Frapazoid> if you need it for web design work testing or something
[03:34] <PolishOX> winos, data, disc images, ubuntu
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[03:34] <crimsun> Tonren: I don't track source packages that I can't change.
[03:34] <nozorro> thedash: no, not reopen, but!ops
[03:34] <Tonren> crimsun: I feel like you're not really answering my questions.
[03:34] <PWill> Dammit. Somebody ban them...
[03:34] <Frapazoid> how do i change screen resolution here?
[03:34] <nozorro> thedash: sorry
[03:34] <scythe> the boot loader (grub) can be installed anywhere.  It doesnt matter where you installed ubuntu
[03:34] <ravenous> R0cK3T: i dont use 64 and thats not whats required with a 32bit install i know for sure so i dont know
[03:34] <PolishOX> oh klines are no joke
[03:35] <eyequeue> chowdaryharsha, if some site wants ms software, write to the site admin, we can't control what they write
[03:35] <nozorro> thedash: no. not reopen but reappear
[03:35] <hikenboot> hello all question---if the repository says non-free...this means that someone is charging for its use and it cant be included on a free cd is that right?
[03:35] <DBO> PolishOX, those were bots
[03:35] <crimsun> Tonren: I am. The implication is not to download and install random binaries but to build your own deb.
[03:35] <eyequeue> chowdaryharsha, i like lynx
[03:35] <PolishOX> grub was installed where ubuntu is default
[03:35] <scythe> grub is not ubuntu, it is just a boot loader that gets installed with it
[03:35] <PolishOX> i didnt change grubs location ubuntu picked it for me
[03:35] <chowdaryharsha> eyequeue, can we run .exe files in  linux??
[03:35] <Tonren> crimsun: So I SHOULD build it from source.
[03:35] <eyequeue> hikenboot, non-free has nothing to do with money, freedom isn't a cash thing
[03:35] <scythe> ok, then I cant help ya, sorry man
[03:35] <Frapazoid> is there no option in the menu at all to change the screen resolution? i ran a search on google and someone mentioned a specific tool in the Administration menu,
[03:35] <Gevaudan82> chowdaryharsha: using wine yes
[03:35] <Frapazoid> and it ain't there
[03:35] <PolishOX> eyequeue heped me
[03:36] <hikenboot> so it means your not free to change it then...yes.?
[03:36] <scythe> chowdaryha yes, you can.  you cane use wine
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[03:36] <chowdaryharsha> eyequeue, whats that??
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[03:36] <salsaphreak> I have both a nic and modem installed and can't a 'regular' (non admin) user access to the modem. How can I disable this feature that wants to prevent bridging?
[03:36] <eyequeue> chowdaryharsha, um, you seem to want ##windows
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[03:36] <DBO> argh
[03:36] <DBO> lagging
[03:36] <PolishOX> " sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and change ""default=" "
[03:36] <crimsun> not this crack again.
[03:36] <krazykit> what a pain :-/
[03:37] <crimsun> Tonren: in some fashion, yes, or wait til I get an official version into the edgy repo.
[03:37] <Tonren> crimsun: Err, I'm on Dapper.
[03:37] <salsaphreak> Perhaps my question flashed by too fast... : I have both a nic and modem installed and can't a 'regular' (non admin) user access to the modem. How can I disable this feature that wants to prevent bridging?
[03:37] <crimsun> Tonren: then pbuild/sbuild my source package in a dapper pbuilder.
[03:37] <hikenboot> eyequeue, sorry you probably missed that question with the britney spears shit...instead of money non-free means you arnt free to alter it in any way?
[03:37] <Tonren> crimsun: I have no idea what a pbuilder is, sorry.
[03:37] <crimsun> Tonren: keep in mind that the engine deb doesn't actually provide a theme. You need a separate murrina theme.
[03:38] <eyequeue> hikenboot,  that's closer, though it can mean any of a number of restrictions
[03:38] <britt> I need some help on getting keys to work, im VERY confused and it probably wont take someone long to help me out. I just need to knowhow to set the keys up. Like does authorized keys get the key from the server or the client?
[03:38] <Tonren> crimsun: I'm aware.  I downloaded a theme as well, and it is not showing up correctly.
[03:38] <eyequeue> hikenboot, example: only non-military use (like that recent clustering app)
[03:38] <Gevaudan82> britt: in what context, meaning what program?
[03:38] <crimsun> Tonren: did you place the theme in ~/.themes/ ?
[03:39] <ProN00b> does anyone know how i can turn wget into http/1.1 mode ? so it sends HTTP/1.1 instead of HTTP/1.0 and a Host: header field ?
[03:39] <stormbuntu> where can i find info regarding "ubuntu center"?
[03:39] <Tonren> crimsun: I clicked & dragged it into the Themes dialogue, which successfully installed it.
[03:39] <salsaphreak> Can anyone help with a modem question?
[03:39] <Frapazoid> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and it set the screen size to 1024x768, but my laptop only goes up to 800x600. i cannot find anything in the menus to change screen resolution. i googled it and found a message board post refering to a specific screen tool in the adminstration menu, but it is not there.
[03:39] <hikenboot> my basic question is I have customers I am building a live cd system for and want to charge them to maintain it and charge to set it up...is it ok to do this with ubuntu?
[03:39] <Frapazoid> how do i change the screen resolution?
[03:39] <nozorro> !fixres
[03:39] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:39] <eyequeue> hikenboot, you would have to research the legalities of each and every app before including it )which means most will just not distribute, heh)
[03:39] <crimsun> Tonren: what are the last 50 lines of ~/.xsession-errors? (use pastebin)
[03:39] <PolishOX> can i safely rename grub titles without causing boot issues?
[03:40] <stormbuntu> !ubuntu center
[03:40] <britt> Gevaudan82: I'm afraid I dont understand your question
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu center - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <eyequeue> PolishOX, within reason
[03:40] <Tonren> crimsun: None of 'em have anything to do with themes or metacity
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[03:40] <Gevaudan82> britt: you said you are trying to set up keys? why do you want to do this?
[03:40] <Frapazoid> brendonjt: it's not there
[03:40] <Frapazoid> WAIT
[03:40] <Frapazoid> YES IT IS
[03:41] <eyequeue> PolishOX, keep the character set "normal" to be safe, i'd say
[03:41] <Tonren> crimsun: No wait... I foudn something: Window manager warning: Failed to read theme from file /usr/share/themes/Gilouche/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml: Failed to open file '/usr/share/themes/Gilouche/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml': No such file or directory
[03:41] <salsaphreak>  I have both a nic and modem installed and can't get a 'regular' (non admin) user access to the modem. How can I give the user access to the modem?
[03:41] <Frapazoid> dangnamit, i was searching for it in the administration and i missed it twice.
[03:41] <hikenboot> I want to include webmin in my live cd ...and tftpd and dhcpd...and a rdp client like thinstation
[03:41] <Frapazoid> i'm sorry, it's 4am
[03:41] <crimsun> Tonren: follow the error trail.
ouch  ya didn't need to scream in my ear  lol
[03:41] <nozorro> stormbuntu: never heard about that. who told you such a thing exists?
[03:41] <sl021> Could not open "DS-RP6.rar"
[03:41] <sl021> Archive type not supported.
[03:41] <britt> Gevaudan82: my linode keeps on getting hacked and the only way I can think of them getting in is through SSH
[03:41] <nozorro> !fixres > Frapazoid
[03:41] <eyequeue> salsaphreak, read through /etc/group and see if one is pertinent
[03:41] <MrKeuner> hi, using dapper and having problem when burning mp3 files as audio cd using serpentine. While converting the mp3 files serpentine fails without no apparent reason. anybody having that problem?
[03:41] <MrKeuner> is it because cdrecord is not installed as setuid root?
[03:41] <Frapazoid> yes i saw that
[03:41] <jrib> salsaphreak: I think "dialout" is the group
[03:41] <Flannel> britt: pick better passwords
[03:41] <stormbuntu> nozorro, a podcast
[03:41] <Frapazoid> that link does not tell how to fix it
[03:42] <britt> Flannel: like how long
[03:42] <nemish> Has anyone ever used a samba shared (or shared a directory via samba) that is or a subdir is a mounted directory?
[03:42] <Iceman24k> has to be a easyier way to get this nvidia driver to install
[03:42] <britt> 14ex&v~$ isnt strong enough
[03:42] <Frapazoid> brendonjt told me how to fix it already
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[03:42] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:42] <britt> and BTW that isnt my pass
[03:42] <Tonren> crimsun: There doesn't appear to be a folder called Gilouche (the nam eof the theme) AT ALL in /usr/share/themes
[03:42] <Frapazoid> thankyous
[03:42] <nozorro> stormbuntu: ah, completely new to me, sorry
[03:42] <crimsun> Tonren: lovely, another broken source package.
[03:42] <stormbuntu> nozorro, its kewl
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Iceman24k: How are you trying to do it
[03:42] <DanaG> Does Ubuntu really NEED a swap partition?
[03:42] <Flannel> britt: that's probably strong enough.  You could check your logs, to see if theyre getting in another way.  You can also try changing your ssh port
[03:42] <crimsun> Tonren: give me about ten minutes to general a real unbroken package.
[03:42] <Tonren> DanaG: I think so, yeah.  Does it matter?  It's just 512 megs.
[03:42] <Flannel> DanaG: no
[03:42] <Gevaudan82> britt: there's a deeper issue if you are continuously getting hacked...try changing your ssh port
[03:43] <Tonren> crimsun: Er... ok?
[03:43] <DanaG> I have a gig of ram and a 1 gig swap.
[03:43] <britt> Flannel: OMg. I never thought of that.
[03:43] <salsaphreak> EYEQUEUE: will do... thanks for the pointer
[03:43] <nemish> DanaG: you got oodles of memory? ;-)
[03:43] <britt> Gevaudan82: I only have apache2, ssh and exim and squirrelmail running. Its mainly a backup server
[03:43] <DanaG> hmm, trying hibernate...
[03:43] <britt> Flannel: yleml&d6 is another one
[03:44] <britt> these are strong enough?
[03:44] <Iceman24k> anyone able to walk me through the config of the nvidia drivers install. I have onboard video, but need to install a nvidia card, reset the bios, then reboot to the nvdrivers
[03:44] <Gevaudan82> DanaG: download nessus and do a vunerability scan from another computer (outside your network)...it can help point out the flaws in your configuration leading to you getting attacked
[03:44] <DanaG> er, must be wrong person
[03:44] <DanaG> (tab completion?)
[03:44] <Gevaudan82> yea, that was meant for britt
[03:44] <Iceman24k> !nvidia
[03:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:44] <britt> Gevaudan82: thanks for the tip, I already reimaged
[03:45] <eyequeue> salsaphreak, good luck
[03:45] <britt> Gevaudan82: I was goign to play with ssh-keygen and go that route bc i didnt think passwords could be strong enough
[03:45] <Gevaudan82> britt: might be a good idea but i can't walk you through it off the top of my head
[03:46] <britt> Gevaudan82: I just need some basic help, i dont really require a walkthrough
[03:46] <Flannel> britt: those are probably strong enough.  Mixed case can provide additional strength, but... you're already doing pretty well.  You might try examining other means of entry, or perhaps check whats running.  changing your password won't help if youre giving it away each time you login, etc
[03:46] <q8i> guys when i write " sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin" it's told me that couldn't find package :/
[03:46] <q8i> what should i do ?
[03:46] <Flannel> q8i: do you have multiverse enabled?
[03:46] <q8i> don't no :/
[03:47] <britt> Flannel: those are retired passwords. I'm really good remembering numbers so I make them up, tehyre usually 15-20 characters long
[03:47] <Flannel> probably not then,
[03:47] <Flannel> !tell q8i about components
[03:47] <crimsun> oh god, that murrine deb on xfce-look is made with checkinstall.
[03:47] <crimsun> no wonder.
[03:47] <ala1> where do I get xgl and does anyone have comments about it?
[03:47] <Flannel> britt: right, but still.  If youve got a keylogger, or whatever else, or even if its not ssh at all, creative  password wont help
[03:47] <Flannel> ala1: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:48] <ala1> thanks
[03:48] <sp0rk> ala1: needless eyecandy =)
[03:48] <britt> Flannel: I already reimaged from linode, so this is a fresh slate. I'll go and change the SSH ports and the HTTp port,etc
[03:48] <Flannel> britt: you check the computer youre logging in from?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> britt Would grc.com shields up tell him anything helpful
[03:49] <britt> Flannel: they are actually Xp machines, but they are set not to save any daya
[03:49] <Flannel> britt: ssh port change will only help againt brute force, security through obscurity to a point, but its enough of a deterrent that they shouldnt go looking for a ssh port, unless you're specifically being targetted
[03:49] <Sarra_> I tried doing a /list but it's not working right now. is there a VMWare help channel on this server?
[03:50] <britt> Jack_Sparrow: I may check that out savy
[03:50] <nozorro> !vmware
[03:50] <Flannel> Sarra_: #vmware
[03:50] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[03:50] <sp0rk> britt: what exactly are you paranoid about?  Sorry, i missed it
[03:50] <Sarra_> Thank you Flannel
[03:51] <britt> sp0rk: I pay $20 bucks a month for this server, I love having a nice server for storage and mail. I hate havign to reimage when someone drops a LKM trojan in my server. chkrootkit tells me of this when it happens. Took two days this past time.
[03:52] <britt> Flannel: I dont think im being SPecifically targeted, unless someone has some personal grudge against me, btu everybody i know isnt really computer savy
[03:52] <Flannel> britt: if its a shared server, it might not be on your account.  You might try calling the hosting company up
[03:52] <britt> Flannel: its a virtual server, I have my own little "slice"
[03:52] <britt> if that makes sense
[03:53] <Flannel> britt: right, that doesn't necessarily mean someone else hasn't been compromised
[03:53] <britt> Flannel: true.
[03:53] <britt> tahst very true
[03:54] <sp0rk> britt: how the hell are the rootkits getting in there? who has access to this virtual server and why hasn't the hosting company tried to mitigate it?
[03:54] <dave> quit
[03:55] <cafuego> britt: Which rootkit did `chkrootkit' tell you about?
[03:55] <cafuego> britt: ... because it _does_ pick up false positives.
[03:56] <nickipee> hallo
[03:56] <Iceman24k> damit the nvidia how-to sucks .. help
[03:56] <nickipee> looking for help with foreign accents and dead keys- can anyone help?
[03:57] <nickipee> on CLI and under X
[03:57] <Botty> I might buy an uber computer - will linux run on dual FX-62s (dual cpu, dual core)
[03:57] <britt> cafuego: LKM
[03:57] <cafuego> nickipee: Under X is real easy, simply set a compose key in the Gnome keyboard applet.
[03:58] <nozorro> nickipee: what's the problem with characters?
[03:58] <cafuego> britt: ok, that's probably a real one then :-)
[03:58] <britt> cafuego: which one is usually a false positive?
[03:58] <nickipee> cafuego: gracias
[03:58] <britt> probably useful to know
[03:58] <cafuego> Mine insists postfix/ssmtp is a rootkit, somehow.
[03:58] <cafuego> port 465 tcp
[03:58] <nickipee> caf,naz: well i basically want to use dead keys to have ` and ' accents on vowels
[03:59] <britt> cafuego: ah i see
[03:59] <nickipee> and the little tilde thingy ~ on the 'n'
[03:59] <Flannel> enye
[03:59] <cafuego> ckp: it's not hard ;-)
[03:59] <nickipee> jajaja
[03:59] <nickipee> well cool, so show me
[03:59] <britt> so guys, I recieved a ticket from linode stating that someone was engaging in brute force attacks against my SSH port, so I suppose 'they' got in?
[03:59] <nickipee> pretty please
[03:59] <nozorro> nickipee: o nt t all
[03:59] <sp0rk> britt: this is why openbsd was invented =)
[04:00] <cafuego> nickipee: I have my Cmpose key set to right alt.
[04:00] <britt> sp0rk: not following :/
[04:00] <Over_There> I am having a problem with using ssh with nautilus, it asks for my remote password and the it says "Please select another viewer and try again."
[04:00] <cafuego> nickipee: So if I hit <alt> ' e I get 
[04:00] <caseyomah> Okay, I have an ID10T error on my other box, I chmoded * to 7777 any easy recovery?
[04:00] <Over_There> anyone have an idea whats wrong?
[04:00] <nozorro> nickipee: System > Prefs > Keyboard
[04:00] <britt> cafuego: oh my
[04:00] <Iceman24k> how can i modify the xorg.conf file to load the nvidia drive anyone
[04:00] <Flannel> caseyomah: nope
[04:01] <britt> when i first started on linux, someone told me to hit 'rm -rf /' as root
[04:01] <cafuego> caseyomah: It only did the current dir. That can be done by hand quickly enough.
[04:01] <britt> to fix a problem
[04:01] <Gevaudan82> Iceman24k: change nv to nvidia
[04:01] <britt> it fixed it alright
[04:01] <nozorro> nickipee: set Compose Key under Layout Options
[04:01] <sp0rk> britt: openbsd is another unix-like OS that has never had a remote vulnerability in the default install - what bothers me about you getting a trojan is that someone who you're allowing to access your server is screwing with you, or someone on the physical admin side is NOT doing their job
[04:01] <nickipee> great so its just a case of making a compose key in system prefs
[04:01] <cafuego> britt: In their defence, I bet it made the problem go away ;-)
[04:01] <cafuego> nickipee: Yup
[04:01] <nickipee> thanks nozorro,cafuego :)
[04:01] <cafuego> nickipee: And then you just hit the keys in oder (not simultaneusly)
[04:01] <caseyomah> cafuego, I was in /var/www and ran "chmod -R 7777 *" and I can't get back into X or anything.
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Iceman24k: Did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:02] <nickipee> now on the Terminal itself, it's more difficult?
[04:02] <britt> sp0rk: NOBODY is allowed on my server except for me
[04:02] <cafuego> caseyomah: Oh, -R. Nope....
[04:02] <sp0rk> britt: then i would definitely call up your hosting company and bitch them out, especially if this has happened more than once
[04:02] <nozorro> nickipee: gnome-terminal behaves, linux console is different story altogether
[04:02] <britt> so these are uninvited attacks. I also dont have any hateful things on my site either, i dont understand what is going on.
[04:02] <nickipee> nozorro: right, thats what i was getting at
[04:02] <wladston> i'm setting up the linux<->windows integration here and I have noticed that, after chaging the workgroup, for the setting to be applied, I had to reboot the computer. This is not listed on the documentations or guides. Should I report a bug ?
[04:02] <britt> sp0rk: i'll have a word tomorrow, so you think theres a infected machine in the datacenter causing problems?
[04:03] <eyequeue> britt, some people attacked #ubuntu earlier, some just are like that, not you
[04:03] <sp0rk> britt: either they've got a compromised host server that your virtual server is client to, or something you've installed is infected...and i would say it's probably somethign on their end
[04:03] <caseyomah> cafuego, I expected "-R *" to mean "this directory and all subs"
[04:03] <sp0rk> again, this is why i use BSD for servers and NOT linux.
[04:03] <britt> eyequeue: thats a compliment?
[04:03] <cafuego> caseyomah: ... yeah... and all files too.
[04:03] <britt> sp0rk: well I appreciate your help.
[04:04] <eyequeue> britt, or an insult to the morons that attack, but yes, a compliment to you :)
[04:04] <sp0rk> britt: a trojan can't really just "show up", it has to be invited in...hence the name trojan
[04:04] <britt> sp0rk: if thats the truth, they lost a customer of two yeats
[04:04] <wladston> okay ... heading for bugzilla ... :)
[04:04] <britt> two years
[04:04] <caseyomah> cafuego, It didn't it translated to "-R /*" is the way it decided to read it.
[04:04] <caseyomah> cafuego, I didn't have the "/" in the command.
[04:04] <sp0rk> britt: so something (or someone) is elevating their priveleges to invite it in, basically
[04:04] <wladston> oh - no bugzilla anymore ... launchpad
[04:05] <cafuego> caseyomah: What shell do you use? Bash matches '*' only to non-dotfiles and non-dotdirs in the current directory.
[04:05] <poningru> how do I download the .deb for a package?
[04:05] <britt> sp0rk: got it
[04:05] <Flannel> poningru: via apt-get?
[04:05] <isaac_> hey guys, I've got a pretty general question but I've got nobody else to consult but ya'll... for some reason Ubuntu has been locking up to the point of having to do a hard reset to get back up and running, I'm guessing it has something to do with my video but I can't think what
[04:05] <iceman24k1> whats the command line to reconfog xorg
[04:05] <isaac_> never had this problem with other distros, so I've got no clue
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Iceman24k: Did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:05] <poningru> Flannel: yeah
[04:05] <sp0rk> britt: i mean, in order to have a process hidden, an attacker has to replace the system ps executable with a modified one that stealths the offending process
[04:05] <iceman24k1> ty
[04:06] <sp0rk> britt: that implies full root access to the machine
[04:06] <Flannel> poningru: apt-get downloads and installs, or did you just want to download?
[04:06] <caseyomah> cafuego, I was in bash, maube it was a glitch. I can access tty1-6. There isn't any reconfigure command to fix it?
[04:06] <cafuego> poningru: 'apt-cache show <package> | grep Filename
[04:06] <nozorro> poningru: : using a package handling app if it's in the repositories. like any other file if not
[04:06] <cafuego> caseyomah: nope
[04:06] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to put wget into http 1.1 mode ?
[04:06] <sp0rk> britt: read this thread http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/focus-linux/2003-02/0024.html
[04:06] <caseyomah> cafuego, So I just install again from livecd formatting root?
[04:06] <StrikerFalcon> can someone help me with installing a wireless card on my laptop?
[04:07] <sp0rk> britt: and i'd recommend setting up your own server from now on, if you've got a good broadband connection and a few extra dollars to spend for electricity costs, it might just fit what you need
[04:07] <britt> sp0rk: i feel thats what i'll need to do
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> StrikerFalcon: Start by identifying your hardware...  also check out ndiswrapper
[04:08] <britt> i think linode just lost a two year customer
[04:08] <Iceman24k> dambit why does the nvidia howto not work
[04:08] <sp0rk> britt: and if you're super paranoid, look into openbsd, but i would recommend freebsd for a non-paranoid home-based server.  you start with a tight system and there is VERY little for an attacker to exploit on either OS
[04:09] <StrikerFalcon> how do I get the computer to identify?
[04:09] <fuoco> is there anything like the apple airport express audio capability that works with linux ?
[04:09] <britt> sp0rk: i use xubuntu, it seems much tighter than debian
[04:09] <Flannel> Iceman24k: Youd have to give us more details for us to answer that
[04:09] <britt> :)
[04:09] <Iceman24k> i have tried this and tried this.
[04:09] <britt> but openbsd might fit too
[04:09] <Iceman24k> I got build in onboard drivers, but the Nvidia install will not change the driver to use a Nvidia add on card
[04:09] <AWOSDev> Can you guys help me with Samba?
[04:09] <sp0rk> britt: uh...no, a default debian install would be much tighter than an xubuntu, because you wouldn't have any x cruft in there poking more holes in your base install
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Iceman24k: It isnt the howto as much as complications due to your onboard video / nvidia plugin combo
[04:10] <sp0rk> xubuntu is definitely overkill for a server
[04:10] <Flannel> sp0rk, britt, you can get the alternate ISO and do a 'server' install
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Iceman24k: Did you try the reconfigure?
[04:10] <Iceman24k> there a way to install the Nvidia driver and run a duel display, then remove the onboard
[04:10] <sp0rk> Flannel: i know, but there are still more base vulnerabilities in linux in general than in any of the *BSDs, which is why i use them for servers
[04:10] <nozorro> iceman24k: what matter is the driver set in xorg.conf
[04:10] <sp0rk> you just start out safer.
[04:10] <britt> sp0rk: oh. hmm...well its not like im not doign anything. im constantly updating the box and im still getting these issues
[04:11] <Flannel> sp0rk: debian is linux based
[04:11] <sp0rk> Flannel: yes, i know.
[04:11] <Iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow i did a reconfigure to just get the system back up using the defaults "auto detect"
[04:11] <Iceman24k> anyone pm me and walk me through this please.
[04:12] <sp0rk> Flannel: i consider debian inherently insecure because it's linux, and there are kernel exploits floating around out there, however i do consider it more secure than most other linux distros because it's A LOT more conservative, WAY more conservative than ubuntu - even the server iso of ubuntu
[04:12] <Iceman24k> god prior releases were never this complicated
[04:12] <sp0rk> Flannel: see what i'm saying?  OpenBSD > FreeBSD > Linux ( slackware > debian > all else )
[04:13] <Flannel> sp0rk: default debian install ...  much tighter .. xubuntu, ...  x cruft in there poking more holes -- ubuntu 'server' install
[04:13] <isos> Hi guys
[04:13] <Iceman24k> Someone walk me through this please
[04:13] <freeman> hi gys
[04:13] <Iceman24k> !nvidia
[04:13] <nozorro> iceman24k: before you changed nicks several times :-) i asked you which driver is set in xorg.conf. you never replied
[04:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <sp0rk> Flannel: i was talking about xubuntu, not the ubuntu server, britt uses xubuntu and said it seems tighter than a debian install, however a debian install does not include X by default, whereas xubuntu does, therein adding a layer of complexity and a ton of holes that are inherent to the x protocol
[04:14] <sp0rk> Flannel: trust me, i know what i'm talkinga bout =)
[04:14] <isos> how can I create a fast folder share between two ubuntu machines using ssh ?
[04:14] <britt> is there a better ATI driver than the default one for ubuntu?
[04:14] <Flannel> sp0rk: right, but ubuntu need not have X installed.  Again, you're abstracting this further than I was correcting you.
[04:15] <isos> ssh folder share is so slow ... I heard that there is a faster way related to ssh
[04:15] <nozorro> britt: commercial ati drivers, but not for all cards
[04:15] <Iceman24k> ok, running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and the pci look to be wrong ?
[04:15] <AbortD> it possible to run IE in wine?
[04:15] <sp0rk> Flannel: i never said you COULDN'T install ubuntu without X, but that wasn't even the subject of the discussion, the subject was xubuntu, which includes X
[04:15] <sp0rk> Flannel: your correction was unnessary =)
[04:16] <sp0rk> !fglrc
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <sp0rk> !fglrx
[04:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <sp0rk> britt: ^^T^
[04:16] <britt> nozorro: thx sp0rk
[04:17] <Iceman24k> how much memory do i specify for a 64 meg video card
[04:18] <Iceman24k> 64,000 ?
[04:18] <britt> 65536
[04:18] <Iceman24k> ty
[04:18] <britt> 1024*64
[04:19] <StrikerFalcon> anyone know how to setup a wireless card?
[04:19] <TylerDurdener> what is the command to mount an iso image using "mount"?
[04:20] <Flannel> !tell TylerDurdener about iso
[04:21] <Iceman24k> well try a reboot again
[04:21] <roostishaw> what is the best compression ubuntu supports?
[04:21] <roostishaw> for archives
[04:22] <eyequeue> !best
[04:22] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:22] <eyequeue> roostishaw, bzip2 can be good
[04:22] <roostishaw> ok, thank you
[04:24] <habakkuk> hello
[04:24] <habakkuk> anyone alive ?
[04:24] <TylerDurdener> Flannel, once I have it mounted, can I delete the iso file or does it still need it?
[04:24] <napoleon1> a likely story
[04:24] <phin> soooo no more linux-686 package?
[04:25] <phin> its just linux-generic now?
[04:25] <Flannel> TylerDurdener: it still needs it.
[04:25] <napoleon1> habakkuk: of course not. what a silly question!
[04:25] <Flannel> TylerDurdener: it's just reading that file as if it were a disk
[04:25] <TylerDurdener> thanks
[04:26] <sp0rk> !iso
[04:26] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:26] <Iceman24k> someone anyone help me install this NVidia Driver please
[04:26] <sp0rk> ooo fun
[04:26] <sp0rk> i never knew that
[04:26] <sp0rk> learn something new every day =)
[04:27] <Iceman24k> I have tried and tried to install this driver, bit telling Xorg.conf the pci slot sucks
[04:27] <Flannel> Iceman24k: You need to give us details, what went wrong, etc.
[04:28] <Iceman24k> X crashes, does not see the card
[04:28] <Flannel> Iceman24k: what errors do you get
[04:28] <Iceman24k> hard to be expliced "exact" when X does not work
[04:29] <Flannel> Iceman24k: /var/log/Xorg.log
[04:29] <Flannel> Iceman24k: or, similarly named files
[04:29] <casey> what's the best program to use to protect ubuntu from a virus
[04:29] <madewokherd> which one?
[04:30] <Flannel> casey: common sense
[04:30] <Iceman24k> !pastebin
[04:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:30] <__mikem> or clamAV
[04:30] <casey> yeah but I want a virus scanner
[04:30] <casey> it's for my gf
[04:30] <SlackRat> BitDefender
[04:30] <Iceman24k> ill pastebin the file
[04:30] <napoleon1> casey: you're giving her root privileges?
[04:30] <Gevaudan82> casey: clamav/clamtk combination works fine
[04:31] <SlackRat> or clamav
[04:31] <casey> no she doesn't have them
[04:31] <Rimtech> In order to get ubuntu installed on my sun machine, i had to netboot and install using the server version preseed.... after it was installed i did "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", is there anything else i should do to make it behave more like a desktop system? I heard there were kernel differences, is this the same with sparc systems?
[04:31] <Gevaudan82> you really don't need virus protection for linux, but that's another story
[04:31] <Flannel> Rimtech: You used the server version? or the alternate ISO with a 'server' install option?
[04:31] <Iceman24k> Flannel here you go ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23177
[04:31] <era86> anyone here have experience installing cs1.6
[04:32] <casey> I thought that was kind of not true though
[04:32] <Rimtech> Flannel: it's a sun blade 100 which will NOT boot from any cd rom for some reason, did a netboot and installed using ubuntu-server.seed, which installed ubuntu-server 6.06 lts....
[04:32] <Gevaudan82> casey: very few viruses are created for linux and hardly any do anything malicious...just don't login to root especially through the gui
[04:33] <alex222> hey guys
[04:33] <alex222> im having problems
[04:33] <casey> ok
[04:33] <alex222> i want to install 'qtorrent'
[04:33] <alex222> it's msising this "rblibtorrent "
[04:33] <casey> if you say so
[04:33] <alex222> how do i get that?
[04:33] <Flannel> Rimtech: I see.  so, you used the server.  In that case, you'll have some kernel differences
[04:33] <casey> I'll take your word
[04:33] <Iceman24k> Flannel issues the PrimaryDeviceis:PCI00:02:0 line, thats the onboard video, the Add on card will be different
[04:33] <Rimtech> Flannel: When i tried to install using the default options (desktop i think) it failed when installing x which killed the installer, I had no choice but to do server install this way
[04:34] <Rimtech> Flannel: is there a way to change the kernel to the desktop kernel?
[04:34] <Iceman24k> anyone care to ssh into here and configure the NVidia drivers ?
[04:34] <cafuego> Rimtech: Just install it & boot it.
[04:34] <illsci> hey
[04:34] <illsci> thats funny...   i had a question about the ati drivers
[04:34] <cafuego> iceman24k: Yes I need root on another few machines. Mind a rootkit?
[04:34] <era86> how do we upgrade to the latest gnome?
[04:34] <illsci> i have it working but glxgears and fglrxgears doesnt work
[04:34] <Iceman24k> got the old release Nvidia drivers were so freaking easy.
[04:34] <theBeno> Hey, can I get xgl working with a simple apt-get command, or is it more difficult?
[04:35] <cafuego> theBeno: It's a bit more difficult.
[04:35] <Rimtech> cafuego: what is the name for the sparc64 desktop kernel in the apt repositories?
[04:35] <Gevaudan82> iceman24K: did you follow this - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[04:35] <cafuego> Rimtech: _no_ idea.
[04:35] <theBeno> cafuego, what else is required?
[04:35] <lupine_85> theBeno: rather harder than that ;) ask at #ubuntu-xgl for best results
[04:35] <illsci> I get this error: [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for VertexAttrib4Nbv
[04:35] <Flannel> Rimtech: The 'desktop' kernel is just a generic kernel, you'll need to just install that.  Um, linux-image-[version stuff] -[arch]  with no -server at the end should d oit
[04:35] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: ping
[04:35] <Iceman24k> leave it to ubuntu to finaly screw up the NVidia drivers
[04:35] <theBeno> lupine_85, Thanks.
[04:35] <Gevaudan82> iceman24k: i don't think so...i've got ubuntu and an nvidia quadra 550
[04:35] <cafuego> theBeno: You need to tell the system to run Xgl, not Xorg and set up the window manager.
[04:36] <Iceman24k> shoot, anyone care to ssh into a system
[04:36] <Iceman24k> Gevaudan82 you have onboard video also ?
[04:36] <lupine_85> in edgy it seems to be quite easy... but edgy is a mess right now!
[04:36] <Flannel> Rimtech: uninstalling linux-image-server and installing linux-image-[arch]  should do it, I believe.
[04:36] <Rimtech> Flannel: will there be any speed improvements changing kernels that way? from server to desktop?
[04:36] <Gevaudan82> iceman24k: it's not onboard...it's pci16x
[04:36] <lupine_85> just finished installing into a vmware server... I don't know if the vmware driver would support xgl :(
[04:37] <Flannel> Rimtech: I... am not familiar with what was changed in the server kernels, sorry.
[04:37] <Gevaudan82> lupine_85: oh man, please don't try xgl with vmware, that's a disaster waiting to happen
[04:37] <lupine_85> hehe lol
[04:37] <cafuego> lupine_85: No, it won't do Xgl.
[04:37] <lupine_85> I'll wait :)
[04:37] <cafuego> lupine_85: It doesn't do glx/dri even.
[04:37] <phin> i cant wait for my i810 to support xgl better :)
[04:37] <Iceman24k> Gevaudan82 i have to reconfigure the install past the onboard, then reset the bios, then reboot. no way to completly tell ubuntu to just install to the dang Nvidia card, Ubuntu is smarter that the bios.:(
[04:37] <phin> right now its not to good
[04:38] <Flannel> Iceman24k: do yo have all your packages up to date?
[04:38] <phin> xgl is fine
[04:38] <Iceman24k> Flannel yes
[04:38] <cafuego> phin: Slow and buggy.
[04:38] <Gevaudan82> xgl is actually pretty buggy from my experiences
[04:38] <phin> i think its better then aiglx, since it allows transparent movie windows
[04:38] <fildo> anyone got compiz working here ?
[04:38] <fildo> talking about xgl
[04:38] <phin> cafuego: not on my nvidia box, its fucking fast
[04:38] <Flannel> fildo: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:39] <Flannel> !language
[04:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:39] <Iceman24k> I am ready to install breezy again and screw this bug filled release
[04:39] <fildo> sweet
[04:39] <sp0rk> xgl is useless =)
[04:39] <phin> fildo: i run compiz full time
[04:39] <brl4n> trying to get netgear wg511v2  working to no avil
[04:39] <cafuego> phin: Yeah, I ran it here. Slow.
[04:39] <Rimtech> Flannel: from the wiki: The main difference is tuning done at low level in the kernel. Some "desktop" features like PREEMPT are clearly disabled on the server kernel. Few drivers, like cluster filesystems, have been disabled on the desktop. The list is long..
[04:39] <cafuego> brl4n: That's the pcmcia version of the wg311v2, isn't it? bcm43xx chip?
[04:39] <_Dink> anyone here have ati drivers working with cedega ?... 8.28.8 fails 3d acceleration
[04:39] <Rimtech> Flannel: I guess a preemptable kernel is better for desktop?
[04:40] <Flannel> Rimtech: right, but I'm not sure of the implications ;)  packages.ubuntu.com and seach for 'linux-image' and you'll get a list to choose from (scroll down and pick a meta package, not a particular kernel version)
[04:40] <sp0rk> Rimtech: usually
[04:40] <Iceman24k> Flannel how to enable "Duel Displays" to get the Nvidia card working then disable the Onboard ?
[04:40] <Gevaudan82> anyone successfully configured firestarter to allow running a pptpd server? i followed the faq on the firestarter site but it doesn't seem to work after restarting firestarter...i can connect but it times out when verifying uesrname/password...works fine without the firewall
[04:40] <fiveiron> http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[04:40] <Flannel> Iceman24k: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:41] <Iceman24k> of could i Manualy edit the Xorg.Conf file and get the Nvidia card to work ?
[04:41] <linaub> i have booted to the live CD of ubuntu but i can't launch any applications, so, i can't install ubuntu
[04:41] <_Dink> Any ATI Radeon users in here ??
[04:42] <Rimtech> Flannel: my new problem now is that in synaptic i am only seeing "linux-image-2.6.15-26-sparc64" and it seems like it is already installed, does that mean there is only 1 kernel for sparc systems?
[04:42] <Rimtech> Flannel: since i do not see a server version
[04:42] <Iceman24k> Flannel i see it, but it's greek to me?
[04:42] <Flannel> Rimtech: it could be
[04:42] <LDS_Trooper> I need some help with my sound/sound card
[04:43] <Iceman24k> Flannel where would i add those lines, at what part of Xorg.conf
[04:43] <Flannel> Rimtech: except, you should have a meta package... linux-image-sparc64 or whatnot
[04:43] <LDS_Trooper> how do I set it up the soundcard?
[04:43] <_Dink> Who here wants to be stumped with an ati problem :P
[04:43] <Rimtech> Flannel: yes, linux-image-sparc64... is already installed
[04:43] <linaub> could someone help me?
[04:43] <Rimtech> Flannel: there is also another meta package... linux-sparc64
[04:43] <Flannel> Rimtech: then, yeah, appears no server specific image, you can check the details on the kernel (and meta package) to see if they mention server specific things
[04:44] <Rimtech> Flannel: which is also installed
[04:44] <Flannel> Rimtech: this is dapper, right?
[04:44] <Rimtech> Flannel: yes
[04:44] <_Dink> honestly....if you use sparc i would use a kernel from kernel.org ...
[04:44] <Flannel> Odd.  Wonder why they're not in packages.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <Flannel> !info linux-image-sparc64
[04:45] <ubotu> Package linux-image-sparc64 does not exist in any distro I know
[04:45] <LDS_Trooper> anyone?
[04:45] <Rimtech> Flannel: that's exactly what i am looking at in Synaptic
[04:45] <casey> how do I add a program to the applications menu?
[04:45] <Rimtech> _Dink: ?
[04:45] <TokenBad> I can't get my slave drive off of readonly....it was working before...then had a crash and now I can't umount it...or do anything else to it
[04:46] <Rimtech> _Dink: what would the advantaged be of using a kernel from kernel.org?
[04:46] <_Dink> i setup ati radeon drivers... all works well but fails 3d accelration test in cedega
[04:46] <casey> how do I add a program to the applications menu?
[04:46] <_Dink> Rimtech: you get to tell it what to use and which modules to setup
[04:46] <Rimtech> _Dink: what video card ?
[04:46] <_Dink> ati radeon 9600
[04:46] <Gevaudan82> casey: alacarte
[04:46] <tj_> Rimtech: you can customize it, and make it suited to your comp
[04:46] <Flannel> Rimtech: you'll be fine using the repository version, it's just odd that theyre not on the website
[04:47] <LDS_Trooper> how do I set up the soundcard?
[04:47] <Rimtech> _Dink that one is really hard to get working, i spend hours on that card before
[04:47] <_Dink> fglrxinfo spits out correct info
[04:47] <Rimtech> _Dink: former gentoo user, i know how to compile a kernel
[04:47] <JanHammer> Question: What's the difference between installing in text mode and OEM?
[04:47] <_Dink> just not sure why 3d accelration is failing
[04:47] <Flannel> JanHammer: OEM leaves some stuff for the end user to set up (timezone, locale, username, etc)
[04:47] <TokenBad> anyone know why after a crash...my slave drive is read only?
[04:47] <TokenBad> and how to fix it?
[04:48] <eyequeue> JanHammer, individuals vs mass-market?
[04:48] <Rimtech> _Dink lemme do a quick google and see if anything sparcs the solution of how i solved it
[04:48] <casey> should I get a firewall like firestarter?
[04:48] <habakkuk> hello
[04:48] <Rimtech> _Dink: I do remember getting it working
[04:48] <iceman24k1> this sucks
[04:48] <LDS_Trooper> how do I set up the soundcard?
[04:48] <Dysko> hi all, very new at Linux.
[04:48] <_Dink> i got it workin on 2.6.17 kernel
[04:48] <tj_> casey: i dont see the use
[04:48] <LDS_Trooper> time sensitive issue
[04:48] <habakkuk> does anyone know that i can download wine from another server ?
[04:48] <eyequeue> casey, that is a frontend to iptables, which you already have.  but yes it is nice
[04:48] <_Dink> doesnt work on 2.6.15 ... well for now :P
[04:48] <Gevaudan82> casey: if you aren't running a server you probally don't need it but go ahead if you are the person you are installing this far knows how to configure rules
[04:48] <Dysko> Just installed it 20 minutes ago and have completed my first update with Synoptic
[04:48] <tj_> 3d acceleration on intel integrated processor, driver i810. anny ideas?
[04:48] <Flannel> casey: firestarter is just a frontend to the firewall in the kernel.  It makes it easier to configure
[04:48] <habakkuk> thison default is too slow
[04:48] <Iceman24k> anyone ssh and install nvidia drivers please ?
[04:49] <Iceman24k> after 6 tries i give the hell up
[04:49] <_Dink> Iceman24k there are man binary howto did you try those ?
[04:49] <casey> how can I make it start at login if she doesn't have root though
[04:49] <_Dink> many*
[04:49] <Flannel> casey: it already starts at login
[04:49] <Rimtech> _Dink: did you use the driver and instructions off of ATI's website?
[04:49] <phaedrus44> what is agood program non gnome or kde to burn mp3 to audio cd?
[04:49] <Flannel> casey: er, firestarter is only used when youre changing firewall options, the firewall runs all the time
[04:49] <casey> Firestarter does?
[04:49] <_Dink> yea, try that... also tried building packages same outcome
[04:49] <Iceman24k> _Dink god the Breezy howto was so freaking simple
[04:49] <Dysko> I really need some basic help on adding/building a driver for my Atheros WiFi adapter, but I am usually just a windows installer guy and am quite lost.  Can someone help me out in a private room?
[04:49] <_Dink> tried*
[04:49] <casey> ok
[04:50] <LDS_Trooper> I truly need to get this sound set up and working.. this is a time sensitive issue as well. Can anyone help?
[04:50] <cafuego> Dysko: The atheros driver is already in ubuntu,
[04:50] <casey> is firestarter just for setting up port forwarding and things like that?
[04:50] <Flannel> !tell LDS_Trooper about sound
[04:50] <tj_> 3d acceleration on intel integrated processor, driver i810. anny ideas?
[04:50] <Flannel> casey: and firewall rules, normal firewall things
[04:50] <eyequeue> casey, no, it handles most any aspect of firewalling
[04:50] <sp0rk> Dysko: type this: "ifconfig ath0" and tell me if anything comes up
[04:50] <Rimtech> _Dink: do you have /dev/shm support in your kernel?
[04:50] <Dysko> cafuego, it is listed there under PCI 3 as a corporation, but still is an unknown device
[04:50] <eyequeue> firestarter (8)      - program to manage and observe firewalls
[04:51] <casey> ok
[04:51] <LDS_Trooper> Flannel, where is "Volume Control"?
[04:51] <casey> cool
[04:51] <Iceman24k> Anyone i'll let ssh access in, if someone can get nvidia working
[04:51] <StrikerFalcon> quick question - I downloaded kismet from ubuntus site and I cant open it.  .deb isnt supported?
[04:51] <cafuego> Dysko: That's a PCI database issue, NOT a driver one.
[04:51] <Dysko> I have downloaded the madwifi atheros package but I can't make head nor tails of what to do
[04:51] <Gevaudan82> LDS_Tropper: use alacarte go to SOund and Video and enable the icon
[04:51] <eyequeue> casey, yes the "observe" part is nice too, monitors things in realtime
[04:51] <LDS_Trooper> thanks
[04:51] <Iceman24k> !nvidia
[04:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <_Dink> i think so ... i didnt compile this kernel
[04:51] <casey> I've used it before but it's been a while
[04:51] <sp0rk> Dysko: you dont need to do all that stuff, it *should* work out of the box.  Did anything come up when you typed ifconfig ath0?
[04:51] <cafuego> Dysko: All you need is the linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package, which contains 'ath_pci'
[04:51] <eyequeue> Iceman24k, i know nothing of it, but the "anyone" will need root access, i'm sure :(
[04:52] <sp0rk> Dysko: i'm using a atheros based card right now
[04:52] <_Dink> this one is the basic ubunut/kubuntu 2.6.15-26
[04:52] <MakuraRyu> hello all!
[04:52] <Flannel> StrikerFalcon: you don't need to download it manually, ubuntu's package management stuff can do it for you.  sudo apt-get install kismet
[04:52] <Flannel> StrikerFalcon: but, you'll need universe enabled
[04:52] <_Dink> not sure what that has to do with ati card though
[04:53] <Dysko> I am heading into the networking section under system and I am not seeing it as an adapter
[04:53] <heuristik> Is there a list of build flags used in ubuntu binaries somewhere?
[04:53] <StrikerFalcon> thanks flannel
[04:53] <LDS_Trooper> This could be bad  "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[04:53] <sp0rk> Dysko: have you read anything i've typed to you, dude?
[04:53] <Gevaudan82> LDS_Tropper: your soundcard is probally not detected
[04:53] <field> Hi,how to set the fonts of dapper to display more clear,more sharp
[04:54] <LDS_Trooper> Gevaudan82, how do I have it detected?
[04:54] <sp0rk> alright, guess not.
[04:54] <Rimtech> _Dink: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#Kernel_Configuration
[04:54] <sp0rk> heh.
[04:54] <Dysko> I have tried to, but have you noticed how fast everyone else is filling this page up.  Take me away to a private room and treat me like an idiot
[04:54] <eyequeue> field, edit > current profile > font
[04:55] <Rimtech> _Dink: I know it's a gentoo page but i think that is why my ati drivers weren't working, incorrect kernel config
[04:55] <eyequeue> field, pick the one you like
[04:55] <TokenBad> anyone know why after a crash...my slave drive is read only?
[04:55] <TokenBad> and how to fix it?
[04:55] <barmin> Hello? I need some help here... My Ubuntu is dead now...
[04:55] <Tonren> Hay guys, who can help me with dis error?: resolvconf fails during boot.  run-parts: /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc exited with return code 1
[04:55] <leandro> OI
[04:55] <_Dink> lol I hoped for easier answer... i might just aswell go back to 2.6.17
[04:56] <Jack_Frost_esq> Nubee question regarding running dual monitors can anyone help
[04:56] <leandro> ALGUEM DO BRASIL AE?
[04:56] <Flannel> !br
[04:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:56] <eyequeue> !xinerama > Jack_Frost_esq
[04:56] <Rimtech> _Dink: on that same page there is also some info concerning config files for x and so on, might be worth it to check that out too
[04:56] <sp0rk> Dysko: check your queries dude, i msged you
[04:56] <StrikerFalcon> flannel, I just tried that and It says can not find
[04:57] <Flannel> StrikerFalcon: you need to enable universe
[04:57] <Flannel> !tell StrikerFalcon about universe
[04:57] <barmin> My session won't login... It stops loading at "Window manager"... Any guesses?
[04:57] <sp0rk> !wireless
[04:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:57] <tj_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper, there is a sources.list there
[04:57] <tj_> as well as many other interesting tidbits
[04:58] <_Dink> lol I really dont want to recompile kernel :P
[04:59] <StrikerFalcon> tell flannel im gettin it slowly but how do I enable universe?
[04:59] <Flannel> StrikerFalcon: read that link ubotu sent you... the second one
[05:00] <barmin> <--- Asking for help here! Anyone is free to help?
[05:00] <PWill> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ohio_Linux_Fest_2006 - Digg It!
[05:00] <PWill> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ohio_Linux_Fest_2006
[05:00] <Flannel> !ask
[05:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:00] <Flannel> PWill: don't spam, and, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of thing
[05:01] <britt> hey guys, is there a kernel better than the standard 2.6 kernel for a p4
[05:01] <britt> like a early p4 not the HT one or the new ones
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, ponging here as well ... but i'm about to head up for lunch, so wont be back for 30-40 min
[05:01] <eyequeue> britt, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[05:02] <Inferno> hello
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> britt, a -686 kernel
[05:02] <Inferno> how is everyone doing today
[05:02] <barmin> Is it possible to upgrade from Gnome 2.14 to 2.16 in Dapper?
[05:02] <_Dink> kernel configs look fine any other ideas ?
[05:02] <britt> thanks. I figured that.
[05:02] <Flannel> barmin: technically, yes.  easily? no.
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> or linux-686 if you need binary (evil) drivers
[05:02] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: There was a dude with  sparc kernel question :-)
[05:02] <eyequeue> barmin, not in dapper, that's for edgy
[05:02] <TylerDurdener> how can i change the color depth in Wine?
[05:02] <britt> Kamping_Kaiser: how much difference?
[05:03] <barmin> Flannel: So I'd have to wait 'til Edgy?
[05:03] <Inferno> I'm wondering if ubuntu is better than SuSe linux??
[05:03] <Inferno> does anyone know
[05:03] <tj_> imo it is
[05:03] <cafuego> Inferno: Please don't troll here.
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> bugger all
[05:03] <Flannel> barmin: yeah.
[05:03] <Inferno> troll?
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, ah, ok :)
[05:03] <Inferno> ~troll
[05:03] <barmin> Sad...
[05:03] <eyequeue> barmin, ubuntu releases after gnome, by design
[05:03] <Flannel> Inferno: if you're genuinely curious, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <cafuego> Inferno: Asking obvious questions that (may) lead to flaming.
[05:04] <Inferno> ok
[05:04] <Inferno> sry
[05:04] <barmin> <--- Asking for help here! Anyone is free to help?
[05:04] <simtower> no
[05:04] <eyequeue> !help
[05:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:04] <_Dink> Rimtech, it all looks fine :(
[05:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> barmin, yes and no... good enough? :)
[05:04] <conner_> barmin, if you wait until October, Edgy should be released then.
[05:04] <TylerDurdener> anyone? how can i change the color depth in Wine?
[05:04] <sp0rk> TylerDurdener: soap.
[05:05] <Dysko> need instruction on including info from madwifi to my system to make the Atheros Wifi card in my Toshiba laptop work.  Got all the files, just don't know what to do.
[05:05] <billytwowilly> anyone know how to get openoffice impress to print more than one slide per page?
[05:05] <sp0rk> Dysko: do something for me, ok?
[05:05] <barmin> My Ubuntu install is dead now... It gets stuck at "Windo Manager" loading, right at login...
[05:05] <Dysko> name it bloke
[05:05] <sp0rk> Dysko: type "ifconfig ath0" in a console and tell me what pops up
[05:05] <osdai> Hola Hola
[05:05] <osdai> pucha necesito Urgente una manito
[05:05] <Flannel> billytwowilly: if you can't find the answer here, you might try #OpenOffice
[05:06] <Flannel> !es
[05:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:06] <Dysko> i did that and wrote all the info in the other private window
[05:06] <_Dink> !en
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <barmin> Osdar, ve usa el comando /join #ubuntu-es
[05:06] <tj_> need a kilswitch, what is the best way to crash ubuntu?
[05:06] <sp0rk> Dysko: send it again
[05:06] <billytwowilly> flannel: trying #users.openoffice.org
[05:06] <Dysko> it says 'Device not present'
[05:06] <Dysko> I only have a eth0
[05:06] <conner_> tj_, pull the power cord.
[05:07] <sp0rk> Dysko: type "sudo modprobe ath_pci"
[05:07] <tj_> connor: laptop
[05:07] <conner_> tj_, pull the battery.
[05:07] <sp0rk> tj_: shutdown -h now
[05:07] <sp0rk> tj_: if you can get to a console, that is
[05:07] <barmin> My Ubuntu install is dead now... It gets stuck at "Windo Manager" loading, right at login...
[05:07] <Dysko> what was that supposed to do?
[05:07] <tj_> connor: permanently crash, best one i found so far is sudo rm -rf /*
[05:08] <sp0rk> Dysko: type "ifconfig ath0" now and see what it says
[05:08] <Dysko> cause it asked for my password then didn't do anything I noticed
[05:08] <jtibau> here's a dumb question: how do I know total size of a folder on a bash shell???
[05:08] <Dysko> Device not found
[05:08] <sp0rk> tj_: rm -f /initrd.img /vmlinuz
[05:08] <sp0rk> Dysko: your card might not be supported by the atheros driver, then
[05:09] <_Dink> rm -rf /* will do it ...
[05:09] <_Dink> but only after you restart ... well any rm -rf
[05:09] <_Dink> will only work after restart
[05:09] <Dysko> well according to the info I got, it should be.  It is not usb, and the Device Manager recognises the company just not the device
[05:09] <Iceman24k> anyone care to SSh a nvidia configuration, walk me through giveing access.
[05:09] <LDS_Trooper> Having trouble with soundcard recognition still...
[05:09] <sp0rk> _Dink: my way's more direct =)
[05:09] <Dysko> how do i include the code I was given to the kernel
[05:09] <conner_> tj_, you can still reboot with a Live CD, chroot the drive and re-install the apps.
[05:10] <Iceman24k> Spent 5 + hours trying now, with no luch
[05:10] <Flannel> !tell Dysko about kernel
[05:10] <sp0rk> Dysko: i'm stumped, man, check out #madwifi
[05:10] <barmin> HELP!
[05:10] <_Dink> lol
[05:10] <tj_> connor: bios locked up tight, cd boot not b4 HD
[05:10] <jtibau> is there a command to get the size of a directory??
[05:11] <conner_> barmin, reboot, at grub, select one of the "maintenance" options. Then force a re-install of gnome.
[05:11] <_Dink> man this ati thing is killing me
[05:11] <w30> jtibau, du -h /directory_that_you_want
[05:11] <barmin> conner_: I removed them, for ease of use to my family...
[05:11] <jtibau> w30: thx
[05:11] <w30> jtibau, man du
[05:13] <barmin> Is there a log of the login activity, so I can detect where it fails?
[05:13] <billytwowilly> flannel: I figured it out. there is a handout section
[05:13] <conner_> barmin, just because you removed the labels does not mean that you've removed the functionality.
[05:13] <billytwowilly> anyhoo, cheers, good night,
[05:13] <LDS_Trooper> I know this issue seems small, but for me it is very time sensitive...
[05:14] <jtibau> w30: du -hs does the trick... appreciate the help
[05:14] <acersales> hi si there any start->run (kind of utility) in ubuntu from where i can open computers or path to the files ?
[05:14] <barmin> conner_, Of course... The thing is... I don't now how to get there, now, hahaha
[05:14] <acersales> hi is there any start->run (kind of utility) in ubuntu from where i can open computers or path to the files ?
[05:14] <_Dink> so anyone else with any ati/radeon suggestions ??
[05:14] <thompa> type in terminal
[05:14] <Flannel> acersales: alt-f2 (or, perhaps its ctrl, I can never remember)
[05:14] <tj_> it is alt
[05:15] <jtibau> acersales: its alt
[05:15] <conner_> barmin, google is your friend. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[05:15] <_Dink> Anyone here has a Radeon 9600 card working with Cedega ??
[05:16] <jeeves_Moss> all:  any one any good with BlueTooth USB dongles?  I've got a weird one that the system dosen't like.
[05:16] <Dysko> has anyone had to use the madwifi-0.9.2 download to get their Toshiba wifi card working?
[05:16] <StrikerFalcon> u
[05:16] <acersales> Flannel, thompa , jtibau its alt + f2
[05:16] <LDS_Trooper> Is there another channel I can get the help I need at?
[05:16] <jeeves_Moss> Dysko:  is it in an actual Toshiba laptop?
[05:16] <Dysko> yep
[05:16] <Flannel> LDS_Trooper: ask your question, don't ask to ask
[05:16] <LDS_Trooper> flannel I have asked several times... How do I get Ubuntu to recognize this soundcard
[05:17] <barmin> conner_, lol... thanks... Now... is there a one-command way to reinstall gnome?
[05:17] <LDS_Trooper> I've checked the wiki and do not understand it...
[05:17] <jeeves_Moss> Dysko:  what model?  I've got a Sat P-20, and the Arthoes AR5001x+ card.
[05:17] <acersales> Flannel, thompa , jtibau but i cannot open computer something like \\nameOfComputer
[05:17] <Dysko> A toshiba satellite A100
[05:17] <acersales> Flannel, thompa , jtibau but i cannot open computer something like \\ipaddress
[05:17] <Flannel> acersales: you need a protocol
[05:18] <tj_> LDS_Trooper: what dont you understand? (i cant help with your card, but i can help with understanding)
[05:18] <Flannel> !tell LDS_Trooper about sound
[05:18] <conner_> barmin, apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[05:18] <barmin> acersales, filet:///
[05:18] <jeeves_Moss> all:  any one got any ideas on this BlueTooth dongle?  Or updating to to Gnome 2?
[05:18] <wasabi> reinstalling gdm will not reinstall "gnome"
[05:18] <Iceman24k> ok, hell with dapper, this nvidia issue sucks
[05:18] <LDS_Trooper> ok
[05:18] <jeeves_Moss> Dysko:  give me a sec.  I'll have a look
[05:18] <acersales> barmin, filet:///computerName ?????
[05:18] <Dysko> I have some stuff from MadWifi that I can send you.  New to linux and not sure how to follow the instructions
[05:18] <LDS_Trooper> Ubotu tels me to goto File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer)
[05:19] <LDS_Trooper> I do not see "File"
[05:19] <barmin> conner_, thanks, really. But I'd like to keep it clean, rather than install it over... Is there a log, to figure out what's wrong?
[05:19] <jeeves_Moss> Dysko:  I've had VERY bad luck with installing them from source.
[05:19] <conner_> barmin, yes, there is.
[05:19] <tj_> LDS...: what are you suppesed to be in?
[05:19] <Iceman24k> anyone willing to walk me through allowing you ssh access, and thats willing to configure the nvidia drivers, and disable onboard. PLEASE ?
[05:19] <LDS_Trooper> I looked in Applications and I do not see Alsa
[05:19] <barmin> conner_, so... where? lol
[05:19] <conner_> barmin, it's on your computer.
[05:20] <sp0rk> Iceman24k: disable onboard *What*?
[05:20] <jeeves_Moss> Dysko:  have you looked @ this page?  http://www.apeman.org/2006/08/27/108/
[05:20] <LDS_Trooper> !tell tj_  about sound
[05:20] <britt> :o Guys! Linode defaults to a 2.4 kernel
[05:20] <LDS_Trooper> I do not understand that.. tj_
[05:20] <Dysko> checking it out now.  What is it all about?
[05:20] <amicrawle> any more cool games that ubuntu has  or deb ?
[05:20] <tj_> try sudo find / -iname *"*alsa*"
[05:20] <britt> thats the problem with the security issues isnt it?
[05:20] <barmin> conner_, Well... you're a genius, lol ... do you know which file keeps the log? If so, would you please tell me?
[05:20] <Flannel> britt: What is Linode?
[05:21] <sp0rk> britt: not necesarily...
[05:21] <britt> sp0rk: oh
[05:21] <Flannel> britt: 2.4 still has security patches, etc
[05:21] <jeeves_Moss> Dysko:  it's the simplist howto that I could find.
[05:21] <sp0rk> britt: in many cases the 2.4 kernel series is *more* secure than the 2.6 - they still backport security fixes into it...it's a living branch of the kernel
[05:21] <Tonren> Wahhhhh, my printer driver doesn't work right!  Everything prints an inch and a half lower than it should!
[05:21] <britt> Flannel: Linode is a virtual server thing
[05:21] <britt> sp0rk: ok
[05:21] <tj_> lds_trooper: can you see the vilume icon? double-click on it
[05:22] <tj_> *volume
[05:22] <Iceman24k> sp0rkb onboard video, and install the nvida card the how-to sucks, after 5 tries it don't work, god the Breezy install was so simple in this area
[05:22] <sp0rk> britt: i mean, if they're using the 2.4 from the year 2000, then yeah, that could be the problem...but if they're doing that...they need to be shot.
[05:22] <w30> Iceman24k, check this address https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[05:22] <britt> i'm done with it. Ive lost SO much from trusting them with my data
[05:22] <LDS_Trooper> tj_, "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[05:22] <LDS_Trooper> I think the problem is that Ubuntu doesn't know the card is there.
[05:22] <danrez> anyone here knows how to automatically set ESSID for wireless network with ubuntu dapper booting as livecd ??
[05:22] <conner_> barmin, don't worry about that. When you re-install Gnome, it will leave the log files so you can go back and see what the problem was.
[05:22] <TokenBad> anyone know why after a crash...my slave drive is read only?
[05:22] <TokenBad> and how to fix it?
[05:23] <conner_> gotta go now.
[05:23] <acersales> any command line network browser in ubuntu
[05:23] <britt> OKay, my other issue is getting atheros cards to work on a old thinkpad
[05:23] <Flannel> LDS_Trooper: did you read the page in the thing ubotu sent you?  it gives you details on how to debug sound problems, unknown cards, etc
[05:23] <barmin> conner_ thanks a lot.
[05:23] <Dysko> ok, so if I download the inf for windows that runs this wifi device, I can use th ndiswrapper to fix it?
[05:23] <jeeves_Moss> TokenBad:  you have to remount the drive in RW mode.  You have to first unmount that drive.
[05:23] <Flannel> acersales: lynx, links, link2, elinks, w3m
[05:23] <tj_> hmmm... i'm no expert in sound, try using this guide, see if it's there under fixing sound : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper , if it's not then try www.ubuntuforums.org and look up your card
[05:23] <Flannel> acersales: I'm sure there are more
[05:23] <LDS_Trooper> Flannel yes, but didn't understand it..
[05:23] <Dysko> Will those commands be entered permanently or will I have to do it each time
[05:23] <jeeves_Moss> Dysko:  That's the easiest way of doing it.
[05:23] <britt> I cant get the card to work to install xubuntu or debian, and i cant get any drivers to get the card to work
[05:23] <bll3r> hello everyone
[05:24] <tj_> lds_trooper: sorry i cant be more help
[05:24] <bll3r> I have a question, i was wondering how to take something off the menu from "applications"
[05:24] <danrez> anyone here knows how to automatically set ESSID for wireless network with ubuntu dapper booting as livecd ?
[05:24] <Flannel> bll3r: alacarte
[05:24] <acersales> Flannel, Network Browser
[05:24] <acersales> Flannel, not internet browser
[05:24] <TokenBad> jeeves_Moss, I can umount it...says busy even though nothing is going on that drive
[05:24] <sp0rk> who asked about updating GNOME?
[05:24] <sp0rk> i know someone did...
[05:24] <bll3r> what flannel?
[05:24] <TokenBad> jeeves_Moss, I have rebooted and everything...
[05:25] <bll3r> something like alacarte -r Debian
[05:25] <bll3r> theres a debian folder i want taken off
[05:25] <Flannel> bll3r: alacarte is a menu editor, its GUI
[05:25] <bll3r> oh
[05:25] <jeeves_Moss> TokenBad:  ahve you killed the mount PID for that drive?
[05:25] <Flannel> acersales: fair enough, do you know any examples?
[05:25] <savant42> Hey gang! I'm trying to compile zaptel from source and it's complaining I need the sources for the 2.6.15-20-server. These don't appear to be in the apt repository proper or universe. Any ideas how I might aquire them?
[05:25] <tj_> is anybody here interested in an autocompiler, that compiles apps from sourceforge via mirror of your choice?
[05:25] <TokenBad> jeeves_Moss, went over my head there
[05:26] <w30> bll3r, alacarte and uncheck the box of the unwanted application
[05:26] <bll3r> w30 there is a folder called "Debian"
[05:26] <jeeves_Moss> TokenBad:  I can't rember how to kill a process, but every mounted drive has a mount PID (process ID), Kill that process, and then remount it.
[05:26] <bll3r> want the whole menu taken off
[05:26] <acersales> Flannel, just wondering it will be nice to browse my windows share through command line dont know any
[05:26] <bll3r> but when i right click, it doesnt let me click the "Delete" button
[05:27] <tj_> i'm currently making an autocompiler as part of my science fair, and i would like to know if other people wppold like it (if i should put it up on sourceforge)
[05:27] <Flannel> acersales: apt-cache search network browser lists a few, depending on what protocol you want, ah, samba?  there's a curses one.. smbc, I'm sure there are others, thats just the only one I saw
[05:27] <danrez> anyone here knows how to customize livecd ? I want to set ESSID,WEP key and DHCP automatically
[05:27] <acersales> Flannel, just found one smbc 'samba commander'
[05:27] <tj_> *would
[05:27] <Gevaudan82> Anyone know how to get rid of the annoying ubuntu warnings when logging into SSH?
[05:27] <acersales> Flannel, did u use the curses one ?
[05:28] <TokenBad> anyone know what jeeves_Moss is talking about with the pid for a hard drive and how to see it?
[05:28] <bll3r> any idea w30?
[05:28] <jeeves_Moss> TokenBad:  google.
[05:28] <Gevaudan82> tokenbad: pid means process id...not sure how that relates to hard drives though...usually relates to services
[05:29] <effer> is there a linux-friendly news site with video?  i missed the presidential address at 9:00, and i really want to see it....and despite all my efforts, i still have trouble with cnn.com's video
[05:29] <BMWodarski> hello
[05:29] <acersales> effer this is something to the browser not to linux
[05:29] <Gevaudan82> i hear you...mplayer chokes on the advertisement redirects at the beginning i think
[05:30] <BMWodarski> I am in need of a program
[05:30] <acersales> effer, just use mozilla browser rather than firefox
[05:30] <TokenBad> I guess will just reinstall the OS since it seems no one besides me has had this problem
[05:30] <BMWodarski> I have an unhacked tivo
[05:30] <effer> acersales, ok, i'll try that, thanks :)
[05:30] <savant42> I'm searching for the sources for the 2.6.15-20-server. These don't appear to be in the apt (repository proper or universe). Any ideas how I might aquire them?
[05:30] <BMWodarski> and I want to watch the shows that are on it
[05:30] <acersales> effer, or add the plugin if any in for that media player
[05:30] <BMWodarski> any sugestions?
[05:30] <acersales> effer, you welcome
[05:31] <effer> acersales, what's the command for mozilla browser?  i'm not sure if i have it installed...
[05:31] <jason> helllloooooo..
[05:31] <jeeves_Moss> jason:  hellop
[05:31] <jason> hey
[05:32] <jason> wazup.?
[05:32] <BMWodarski> yo
[05:32] <acersales> effer, what version of linux you are using ? ubuntu ?
[05:32] <jeeves_Moss> jason:  nothing.  I'm just being friendly.  unlike most people in this channel
[05:32] <Gevaudan82> anyone know if there's a way to allow vino to connect even when the user is not logged in and at the login page?
[05:32] <effer> acersales, kubuntu 6.06
[05:32] <jason> jeeves_moss:  YEA tell me about it , Last night i got kicked out of here for nothing
[05:32] <acersales> effer, then most likely you are using konqueror
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> Gevaudan82,  just use the normal vnc server, and it can be set to auto-spawn and show the GDM login
[05:33] <effer> acersales, i was using firefox...will cnn video work in konqueror?
[05:33] <acersales> Application >>> Internet .>>> FireFox
[05:33] <Gevaudan82> Dr_Willis: if only ubuntu's packages installed a startup script in either /etc/init.d or /etc/xinit.d
[05:33] <jeeves_Moss> jason:  I've asked 5 times now on how to get GNOME 2.16 installed, and some help getting Ubuntu to see my BlueTooth USB adaptor
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> Gevaudan82,  i never said Ubuntus packages did it.. but it CAN be set up to do it - ratehr easially
[05:33] <acersales> effer,  i think you better download Mozilla Browser
[05:34] <acersales> effer, hopefully that works
[05:34] <rredd4> are the updates safe to download?  (i guess i feel a little gun shy after the x thing...)
[05:34] <jason> jeeves_moss:  OH YEA.??    No answers..???
[05:34] <acersales> effer, then install real player plugin and flash plugin
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Gevaudan82,  i recall a gentoo wiki page that showed what to do with xinetd
[05:34] <jeeves_Moss> jason:  nope.  I'm getting annoyed with it.
[05:34] <effer> acersales, ok, thanks again :)
[05:35] <acersales> effer, u welcoem
[05:35] <Gevaudan82> Dr_Willis: i know of that tutorial...but honestly it's unacceptable if I can't start and stop the vncserver daemon and not have it create a different pid (i.e. screen 1, 2....) each time i do so
[05:35] <acersales> effer, u welcome
[05:35] <jason> jeeves_moss:   Go to www.ubuntuforums.org  and ask how , You'll get answers
[05:35] <Gevaudan82> Dr_Willis: plus the tightvncserver bin file does not even accept arguments!
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Gevaudan82,  You want a single shared desktop then. not individuale ones eh.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Gevaudan82,  tightvnc has some bugs.. i find vnc4server works better
[05:36] <Gevaudan82> Dr_Willis: honestly I want both but a single shared desktop gets a higher priority...i would just like to be able to access the gdm login screen...much like ms remote desktop works
[05:36] <jeeves_Moss> jason:  I'd realy like to get this delt with tonight.  I've looked on there, and there is only 3 listings on google.  As for Gnome, it's not stable enough yet to run.
[05:36] <wasabi> Gevaudan82, you might play with having GDM start a display on a xvncserver.
[05:36] <wasabi> Gevaudan82, It won't involve vino though.
[05:37] <wasabi> Gevaudan82, Also, it won't work like MS RDP does.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Gevaudan82,  i had my server set where i could vnc into different ports.. the port i vnc into - determined what res/settings the vncserver ran at.. and it showed me the gdm login screen. however the MAIN issue was the session died when i logged out.
[05:37] <Gevaudan82> wasabi: vino comes close...it's just the login thing that throws it off
[05:37] <jason> jeeves_moss:  then don't install it if it's not stable , as for the other what is it..?
[05:37] <wasabi> Well, vino is a per-user daemon.
[05:37] <wasabi> It only runs within a session.
[05:37] <Lost> What is the best tv program in gnome? Something similar to kdetv?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> I perfer several hidden  desktops/vncsessions. :P
[05:38] <Gevaudan82> Dr_Willis: the downside to this in previous experiences is that if you start a program in an external session like firefox, close the sesion and then login to your console session it will say the program is already in use, or hte profile is anyway
[05:38] <jeeves_Moss> Jason:  It's a BlueTooth USB adaptor.  the USB ID is "1131:1001 Integrated System Solution Corp."
[05:38] <rredd4> is there a way to get into paltak with ubuntu?  I heard that there was a gaim plugin, but could not find it.
[05:38] <dannyr> Has anyone got clamav 0.8n woking in ubuntu?
[05:38] <Gevaudan82> Dr_Willis: i've done this before on centos...but for my purposes vino's default 1024x768 and 16 bit color deptch are fine by me
[05:39] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: clamav yes but not sure which version
[05:39] <LDS_Trooper> Clicked the wrong 'X'
[05:40] <LDS_Trooper> okay.. Flannel..... the links in the ubotu talk about some thing called Hoary... I have no clue what that is.
[05:40] <jason> jeeves_moss:   1 on 1 chat..?
[05:40] <w30> Lost, TVTime, Zapping,Xawtv,VLC, I donno, take your pick
[05:40] <LDS_Trooper> What I do know is that this system has a soundcard and I am too new to Linux to figure out how to configure it to work.
[05:40] <jeeves_Moss> sure.
[05:40] <jeeves_Moss> join #Jeeves
[05:41] <LDS_Trooper> You folks have offered plenty of help ... but I am just too new and do not understand the references....
[05:41] <Lost> Ok. Thans w30. I'm a newbie to gnome.
[05:41] <dannyr> thank you Gevaudan82, did you have a problem with "hex2int() translation problem (40)" and " readdb(): Malformed pattern line "  in "(file /tmp/3a8036071d1c2f1d/main.db)" ?
[05:42] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: not on dapper 6.06...i just installed clamav and most other clamav files and then the clamtk gui frontend and set the link in Accessories myself using alacarte
[05:42] <rbrtoclto> I've got a simple programming question, can I write a TCP server that uses a single TCP socket, and accepts only one connection on that socket?  i.e. negate the need for using accept() to create a new socket for each incoming client, there will only ever be one client connection
[05:43] <LDS_Trooper> I go to "System > Preferences > Sound" and it has nothing listed under defauly sound card... how do I fix that?
[05:43] <q8i> i have 2 harddisk in my computer how i can install the other one in ubuntu ?
[05:43] <britt> q8i: use dmesg|less
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> q8i,  you mean 'mount the 2nd hard drive'
[05:43] <britt> and look for hdb
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> i think :P
[05:43] <Gevaudan82> q8i: either use fdisk or gparted and create a partition on it
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> q8i,  whats on the drive now?
[05:44] <sp0rk> q8i, britt or dmesg | grep hdb =)
[05:44] <britt> sp0rk: ;)
[05:44] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: Thank you very much - you have given me another avenue - I have exhaused everything else
[05:44] <tj_> 3d acceleration on an intel integrated processor (i810 driver)?
[05:44] <sp0rk> grep is everyone's friend
[05:44] <britt> sp0rk: I wish i knew more about bash shell scripts and commands
[05:44] <tj_> lds_trooper: did you find anything?
[05:45] <sp0rk> britt: it comes with time and need, basically
[05:45] <LDS_Trooper> tj_, no...
[05:45] <sp0rk> britt: when you need it, you'll learn it
[05:45] <wastrel> bash howto
[05:45] <LDS_Trooper> I can't figure this out at all....
[05:45] <britt> I was trying to normalize my MP3 collection, and i find it hard to quickly come up with a script to normalize volume
[05:45] <britt> sp0rk: I'm so-so with C++ and PHP
[05:46] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: You must have clamAV 8.n as clamtk depends clamav (>= 0.83) - up and running
[05:46] <tj_> lds_trooper: so you cant get into the alsa control by double clicking on the volume icon?
[05:46] <LDS_Trooper> No.
[05:46] <sp0rk> britt: bash scripting is just a series of shell commands, that's all...it's really really simple
[05:46] <montcalm> Hello all.  I'm having trouble burning an iso that boots.  The md5sums check out on the iso file.  Any recommendations on what flags to pass to cdrecord?
[05:46] <dannyr> I still cannot get the libclamv1 fiile from being held back
[05:47] <LDS_Trooper> tj_, double clicking it gives this error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[05:47] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: clamav 0.88-2-1ubuntu1
[05:48] <zoidberg> guys i've got a question
[05:48] <minerale> what's that package name- it converts dos  line endings to unix
[05:48] <minerale> dos2unix ?
[05:48] <zoidberg> when i use Azureues....I have the DHT error it says "firewalled"
[05:48] <zoidberg> any help
[05:48] <Gevaudan82> ask the damn question
[05:48] <britt> sp0rk: for i in ls *.mp3;do;(something with mp3s)
[05:48] <britt> and its all messed up, i have to try xargs
[05:48] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: You ar my hero - do you remember what repository you have in sources
[05:48] <tj_> lds_trooper: allright, i'm not qualified for these sound issues
[05:49] <britt> but its confusing, i just dont have much time i guess
[05:49] <montcalm> Hello all.  I'm having trouble burning an iso that boots.  The md5sums check out on the iso file.  Any recommendations on what flags to pass to cdrecord?
[05:49] <LDS_Trooper> tj_, you don't know how to configure a sound card either?
[05:49] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: these and a couple more but they shouldn't affect clamav:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:49] <Flannel> montcalm: burn it slow, 4x
[05:49] <tj_> lds_trooper: nope, i know the basic things
[05:49] <montcalm> ah.
[05:49] <sp0rk> britt: something like that, i'm crappy with loops and always have to look at references and play with them for shell scripting
[05:49] <sp0rk> britt: but it's not hard at all
[05:49] <zoidberg> when i use Azureues....I have the DHT error it says "firewalled"
[05:49] <zoidberg> any help?
[05:50] <montcalm> so, cdrecord -raw dev=/dev/hda speed=4 should do it, right?
[05:50] <Gevaudan82> zoidberg: never used azureus but does it need the bittorrent ports opened namely 6881-6889
[05:50] <Flannel> zoidberg: You have a router, yes?
[05:50] <LDS_Trooper> well don't tj_
[05:51] <zoidberg> yes... i have a router going hooked to a college network in my dorm room
[05:51] <tj_> lds_trooper: the ubuntu forums didn't have anything?
[05:51] <Gevaudan82> zoidberg: your college might be blocking upload or download traffic from torrents is one option...flannel may be able to suggest more
[05:51] <Flannel> ah. college network?  good luck.  You'll need to set up port forwarding, on your router, and... ideally, on your college network as well, which isn't exactly feasible
[05:51] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: The only way I could begin to get a version > 0.67 was to add "deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main"
[05:51] <LDS_Trooper> tj_,  plenty about Hoarary whatever that is...
[05:52] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: are you using dapper 6.06 and did you add the repositories in that guide?
[05:52] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: yes and yes!
[05:52] <tj_> lds_trooper: did you search your specific card?
[05:52] <Flannel> zoidberg: you might try asking in #azureus
[05:52] <dannyr> I will past them
[05:53] <LDS_Trooper> All I know is its a Creative labs thing
[05:53] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: very odd...assuming you refreshed the repos you shouldn't have a problem...the original error message you pasted is greek to me unfortunatly...try searching on google appending ""s before and after the error
[05:54] <Flannel> dannyr: you added debian repositories?
[05:54] <grimx> is anybody have the same trouble with mplayer and java enabled sites lagging big time??
[05:55] <LDS_Trooper> !tell LDS_Trooper about sound
[05:55] <montcalm> Of course, if I can't get the iso to boot, I can always geek out and cp the cd contents to the empty sacrificial goat partition and make it boot from there. <grin>
[05:55] <Gevaudan82> never encountered a problem but the mplayer plugin is far from perfect so i expect this kind of stuff
[05:55] <zoidberg> hey guys i've got another question
[05:56] <grimx> what about java enabled sites lagging
[05:56] <tj_> lds_trooper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139019&highlight=creative+labs+sound+issues , try this one
[05:56] <britt> hey is the correct 686 kernel package called linux-image-686
[05:56] <Flannel> montcalm: there are a number of ways, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  for a bunch ;)
[05:56] <Gevaudan82> grimx: not me but i've got a pretty fast cpu...it should lack initially to load the jvm but after that it should be fine
[05:56] <LDS_Trooper> tj_, thanks...
[05:56] <LDS_Trooper> looking now
[05:56] <zoidberg> when i first installed dapper... i couldnt get it to work coz of my NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 pro video card...so i remioved it and used the onbaoard video card and everything worked fine.....now i'm wondering if i can get my RIVA TNT@ card to work since it is better than the generic INtel video card that comes with Dell computers
[05:56] <Gevaudan82> grimx: did you install sun's jvm?
[05:56] <ripper> could anyone tell me how to use automatix to reinstall java sdk ?
[05:56] <Flannel> ripper: no.
[05:56] <grimx> i installe the jre
[05:56] <ripper> frostwire hangs on me, and i cant figure out why
[05:56] <eyequeue> um, ripper, that's not advised in here
[05:56] <ripper> it fully loads
[05:57] <Flannel> ripper: automatix is probably why
[05:57] <Gevaudan82> grimx: should be fine...did you do sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:57] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: posted under dannyr at paste
[05:57] <grimx> no not yet
[05:57] <britt> Flannel: automatix works surprisingly well for me
[05:57] <britt> :)
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> ripper,  try 'java --version' and see waht java you are actually using by default
[05:57] <Iceman24k> zoidberg i'm working on that same issue with a compaq, breezy the nvidia drivers were easy.
[05:57] <Flannel> !worksforme
[05:57] <Gevaudan82> grimx: that's your problem
[05:57] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:57] <eyequeue> ripper, if you insist on it, there's a channel that supports it
[05:57] <grimx> i had no problems when i ran it under windows
[05:57] <tj_> britt: how much do you like automatix?
[05:57] <grimx> on the same machine
[05:58] <JoaoJoao> hello
[05:58] <britt> tj_: i thought it worked very well and made modifying xubuntu easy
[05:58] <Flannel> zoidberg: believe that would fall under nvidia legacy, but, !nvidia should give you all that detail
[05:58] <JoaoJoao> is the JMicron patch already in the latest daily iso?
[05:58] <britt> tj_: i like it so far, i like it this much
[05:58] <Flannel> JoaoJoao: you mean edgy?
[05:58] <tj_> britt: do you think that you would like a better one?
[05:58] <JoaoJoao> yeah
[05:58] <Flannel> JoaoJoao: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[05:58] <britt> tj_: sure.
[05:59] <tj_> that fetches apps from sourceforce
[05:59] <JoaoJoao> thanks
[05:59] <britt> tj_: that would be nice
[05:59] <tj_> britt: (i'm working on science fair project to make an autocompiler)
[05:59] <Gevaudan82> anyone successfully enabled a pptp server behind firestarter? i followed the guide in hte faq but alas after restarting firefox my connection hangs at verifying username/password whereas when the firewall is disabled things work fine
[05:59] <britt> tj_: test subject here
[05:59] <JoaoJoao> hmmm I wonder if there is a way for me to make Syslinux work with my usb stick
[05:59] <britt> and hell you can even use my linode if you need
[05:59] <britt> the linode guys will just love that
[06:00] <grimx> i sudo update and it says no alternatives
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> grimx,  fighting with java?
[06:00] <britt> whats the diff between linux-686 and linux-image-686
[06:00] <britt> ?
[06:00] <flowrobot> hi there ... i've got windows xp installed on the device that is listed in linux as /dev/hdb1 ... would root (hd1,0) point to this (cos i tried that, and it didn't work)
[06:00] <grimx> it runs it just laggs
[06:00] <britt> flowrobot: yes
[06:01] <eyequeue> britt, the former inclues non-free evil binary drivers
[06:01] <Gevaudan82> if you typed sudo update-alternatives --config java and it says no alternatives then there is a problem
[06:01] <tj_> britt: perfect, the script is only half done, so you would have to wait a little..., but we have hosting on sourceforge www.sourceforge.net/projects/comprosure , so check for the realease
[06:01] <Iceman24k> i'm fighting this install to basicly dump microshaft
[06:01] <grimx> yes
[06:01] <britt> eyequeue: so which one is preferred
[06:01] <eyequeue> britt, the latter, imo
[06:01] <Gevaudan82> windows is ok...both linux and ms have their pros and cons
[06:01] <flowrobot> britt: it's a slave drive ... do i need to add something extra to get windows to boot?
[06:01] <eyequeue> britt, unless you want that other
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> getting where i cant even keep a xp box running these days
[06:02] <ripper> java 1.5.0_6 ?
[06:02] <grimx> it laggs with firefox and mozilla..
[06:02] <grimx> yes
[06:02] <manmadha> can any one give link for excellent game for linux???
[06:02] <eyequeue> manmadha, atc
[06:03] <ripper> java hotspot it dont appear to be sun java
[06:03] <eyequeue> atc (6)              - air traffic controller game
[06:03] <ripper> i dunno
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> manmadha,  google for the 'linux game tome' and have a blast
[06:03] <manmadha> eyequeue, can u give the links for atc??
[06:03] <manmadha> Dr_Willis, ya ....
[06:03] <eyequeue> manmadha, /usr/games/atc, man 6 atc
[06:03] <ryctor> vega strike is cool
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> fire up the package manager and search for games
[06:03] <manmadha> ohh thank u
[06:04] <grimx> what should i do
[06:04] <Gevaudan82> ripper: java hotspot is java...the true test is typing sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:04] <ryan_> some how my drive and all its files' permissions got changed is there anyway to change them all with one command
[06:04] <eyequeue> manmadha, sudo apt-get install bsdgames, if missing
[06:04] <flowrobot> ah, i have to map the second hard drive to the first and vice versa
[06:04] <Gevaudan82> ryan_: sure if you know what you want to change them to
[06:05] <Gevaudan82> ryan_: but blantantly assigning 755 or 777 permissions to / is asking for trouble
[06:05] <ryan_> its just a media drive
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> Is there any screen capture software available for Ubuntu (video) if so, is it available in the repository?
[06:06] <Gevaudan82> ryan_: is it usb?
[06:06] <eyequeue> ryan_, no, / is your root
[06:06] <flowrobot> Gevaudan82: I just assigned 777 permissions to /dev/hdb5 so i could run windows xp from vmware server ... otherwise, it wouldn't let me access the windows partition ... is there a better way to do this?
[06:06] <eyequeue> ryan_, / trashes everything
[06:07] <Gevaudan82> does /dev/hdb5 contain other things besides your windows xp vmware image/
[06:07] <Sjoerd__> flowrobot: i would say don't run winxp?
[06:07] <ryan_> its mounted in my user folder
[06:07] <flowrobot> nah
[06:07] <ripper> which one should i use for frostwire @ java
[06:07] <flowrobot> Sjoerd: it's just for testing stuff ... i stopped using windows as my workstation two years ago
[06:07] <thedash> I have a .rar file that is passworded, but I can't tell the archive manager to set a password because the option is greyed out, how can I open it?
[06:08] <Gevaudan82> flowrobotot: that's not a big deal....it's when you start messing with permissions concerning the / drive especially recursively that trouble happens
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> thedash,  get wine, and winrar.exe   and try 'wine winrar.exe'
[06:08] <flowrobot> Gevaudan82: sorry - no, it's just windows xp on there ... that should be cool?
[06:08] <Gevaudan82> flowrobot: that should be fine
[06:08] <flowrobot> Gevaudan82: cheers
[06:08] <Megaqwerty>  Is there any (video) screen capture software available for Ubuntu?
[06:08] <manmadha> he i have installed vmware .....I dont know how to start it....can any one help me??
[06:08] <TEN> mount //host/resource /mnt/hostresource -o username whoever   won't mount an SMB network share on "plain vanilla" Xubuntu 6.06.1 (same for smbmount), without any info in dmesg. smbclient -L sees that same share. What it is missing?
[06:09] <Gevaudan82> megaqwerty: there's a link in the ubuntu wiki you might want to check out...hte name escapes me
[06:09] <flowrobot> manmadha: you probly need to run: sudo vmware-config.pl
[06:09] <ripper> i have like 4 or 5 different versions of java here
[06:09] <manmadha> flowrobot, then?
[06:09] <Gevaudan82> megaqwerty: nevermind, it doesn't do screen capture video just video editing...i use macromedia captivate on windows if it helps
[06:09] <flowrobot> then run "vmware"
[06:09] <manmadha> okk
[06:10] <flowrobot> manmadha: you got from ubuntu, or downloaded from vmware?
[06:10] <patrick_>  hey anyone know where i should put a deb if i want aptitide to find it for a reinstall?
[06:10] <Megaqwerty> alright, it doesn't really help but thanks anyway.
[06:10] <manmadha> flowrobot, from vmware...
[06:10] <flowrobot> patrick_: /var/cache/apt somewhere
[06:10] <ripper> blah java still hangs
[06:10] <ripper> s/java/frostwire
[06:11] <flowrobot> manmadha: and running "vmware" don't work? you're using vmware server or player?
[06:12] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone else know  if there is any screen capture software available for Ubuntu (video)
[06:12] <manmadha> flowrobot, when i click on the vmware it is asking for the location(*.vmx)...
[06:12] <manmadha> flowrobot, what to do?
[06:12] <Gevaudan82> megaqwerty: did you check http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/08/16/2128226
[06:12] <flowrobot> ah - you need a virtual machine ...
[06:12] <manmadha> i have installed vmware but...
[06:12] <Megaqwerty> no I didn't
[06:13] <Megaqwerty> I will though.
[06:13] <flowrobot> you need vmware server to create them
[06:13] <manmadha> how?
[06:13] <patrick_> flowrobot > i put it in /var/cache/apt/archives and it saiid it couldnt find it
[06:13] <RnB-Tunes> http://www.RnB-Tunes.dl.am << new RnB, Hip Hop, Dancehall Tracks!!! free Download... CHECK IT!!!!
[06:13] <Gevaudan82> RnB-Tunes: that's a big F you
[06:14] <wastrel> mmm irc spam for bad music
[06:14] <flowrobot> patrick_: are there sub-folders in there? i'd guess you'd just put it where all the other *.deb packages are?  not sure, really, just a guess
[06:14] <eyequeue> !language
[06:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:14] <patrick_> thats what i did
[06:14] <sethk> iceman24k, did you get my message?
[06:14] <flowrobot> patrick_: dunno, then, sorry
[06:14] <eyequeue> ircing as root?  not wise
[06:15] <iceman24k> sethk yes, systems wont boot now, no x
[06:15] <wastrel> i used to set my hostmask to root@foo
[06:15] <wastrel> just for un
[06:15] <wastrel> fun
[06:15] <sethk> iceman24k, no X may make sense.  not booting does not.
[06:15] <sethk> iceman24k, I think perhaps you don't really mean it's not booting.
[06:15] <manmadha> flowrobot, now what should i do to play  vmware?
[06:15] <sethk> iceman24k, it is probably booting and then giving you an error message and dumping you in a shell, which is entirely different
[06:15] <iceman24k> when i got no x, to me its a worthless shell :)
[06:15] <sethk> iceman24k, I can't help you if you can't be accurate.
[06:16] <iceman24k> exactly
[06:16] <iceman24k> i understand
[06:16] <sethk> I didn't ask you to evaluate the worth of it, just to say what happened.
[06:16] <patrick_> Where can i find people that are that have an amazgin understanding of the debian packing system.
[06:16] <iceman24k> i can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and get it back up again
[06:16] <eyequeue> patrick_, #debian-dev ?
[06:16] <sethk> iceman24k, sure
[06:16] <patrick_> hmm when other person there.
[06:17] <sethk> iceman24k, or just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and change nvidia to nv
[06:17] <flowrobot> manmadha: vmware player only lets you access virtual machines (that's the *.vmxd or whatever file, where the whole virtual operating system is kept) ... if you don't have any virtual  machines, you might be able to download a linux one ... to create a virtual machine, you need vmware server - which costs money ... this lets you create your own virtual machine ... if you don't have vmware server, you'll have to find a *.vmxd file on
[06:17] <iceman24k> Rebooted, gets to the hardware detection area of the "Ubuntu loading screen and hangs there
[06:17] <Hobbsee> RnB-Tunes: ping?
[06:17] <flowrobot> manmadha: if that makes sense :P
[06:17] <sethk> iceman24k, it doesn't hang there.  hang means the machine is dead, the caps lock key doesn't work, control-alt-f1 doesn't show a console, etc.
[06:17] <manmadha> flowrobot, ya ya
[06:18] <kholerabbi> Could someone please tell me how to configure sendmail?
[06:18] <iceman24k> sethk it does nothing at the hardware detection area, and i cannot get it out of that area. is the a way to verbrose the boot provess to see wahts going on
[06:19] <effer> ATTN : for those of you looking to see the presidential address, but having trouble with video (cnn.com), this site plays video perfectly with mplayer under firefox: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060911-3.html#
[06:19] <sethk> kholerabbi, there is no simple answer to that question
[06:19] <eyequeue> kholerabbi, m4 files or /etc/sendmail.cf
[06:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> cookie to whoever fixes azureus in edgy
[06:19] <sethk> iceman24k, no, but you can reboot in recovery mode, and look at the log file in /var/log
[06:19] <kholerabbi> sethk: hehe, well I want to sendmail with evolution in dapper
[06:19] <iceman24k> how ?
[06:19] <sethk> iceman24k, it will tell you what happened.  it will be /var/log/X.......     the only one starting with X
[06:19] <iceman24k> the cd ?
[06:20] <sethk> kholerabbi, sendmail is often an alias to another program, and which other program depends on which mta you have chosen (if you have installed an mta)
[06:20] <sethk> kholerabbi, if you mean the "real" sendmail, there is an entire language devoted to it's configuration
[06:20] <iceman24k> or should i run dpkg-reconfig and use the nv driver
[06:20] <sethk> kholerabbi, odds are, though, that you don't want sendmail at all
[06:20] <sethk> iceman24k, whichever is easier
[06:20] <kholerabbi> sethk: well I just want it configured to do smtp so I can send emails
[06:20] <manmadha> how to create vmware virtual mechine????????
[06:21] <sethk> kholerabbi, you want it to be the mail server?  If not, what you need is a mail client, not an mta
[06:21] <eyequeue> kholerabbi, "it"?
[06:21] <sethk> kholerabbi, usually all you have to do is configure a mail client and point it at your mail server.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> manmadha,  install vmware server.. and follow the wizard they have.
[06:21] <gu014> hello everyone...what do you find to be the best app to make a backup of a personal dvd?
[06:21] <sethk> kholerabbi, linux can be the mail server, of course, but the configuration is a bit involved.
[06:21] <eyequeue> !best
[06:21] <sethk> kholerabbi, and usually that's not what people mean
[06:21] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> gu014, dd
[06:21] <eyequeue> gu014, i'd vote dd too
[06:22] <sethk> kholerabbi, I'm not sure if I helped or confused you.
[06:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> gu014, dd if=/dev/dvd of=/home/username/my-dvd.iso
[06:22] <kholerabbi> I don't want to use a remote smtp server (like smtp.gmail.com). I am a bit confused :(
[06:23] <sethk> kholerabbi, do you have a domain, and you want your linux box to be the mail server for that domain?
[06:23] <kholerabbi> no, I don't even have a static ip
[06:23] <eyequeue> kholerabbi, you want localhost:25?  i'd recommend an MTA like postfix rather than sendmail
[06:23] <gu014> Telroth_Plushie|:interesting
[06:24] <kholerabbi> eyequeue: hmm. I have no idea, but evolution had the option "SMTP or Sendmail" so I thought I would see if I could get sendmail working..
[06:24] <TEN> No luck with Samba (though smbfs has been installed). Could it be that support for SMB to OS/2 hosts is broken again? (They don't seem to have a channel anymore, do they?)
[06:24] <sethk> kholerabbi, than I'm confused also.  what is your email address?
[06:24] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: I went back to original sources - added extra ones at  dapper url, - still end up with 0.67 clamd
[06:24] <gu014> Telroth_Plushie|: what are the advantages over 'dd' as opposed to say 'k9copy?'
[06:24] <sethk> kholerabbi, if you have an email address, you must be using someone's email server somewhere
[06:24] <eyequeue> kholerabbi, you probably meed to figure out what you want before anyone can help you get it
[06:24] <sethk> kholerabbi, I'm trying to explain what each program is for
[06:25] <sethk> kholerabbi, as for evolution, very likely you should have chosen smtp
[06:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> gu014, dd is already installed on your system, it created a bit-for-bit copy, and it lacks all the really confusing features that make backing up a pain.
[06:25] <ireneshusband> greetings. how do i connect my laptop through the 2nd ethernet port of a desktop to my home lan without masquerading, but also without creating an ethernet bridge because I want the desktop to remain connected to the lan. how do i do this?
[06:25] <sethk> kholerabbi, but when you do that, it will ask for the name (or ip) of your email server
[06:25] <kholerabbi> I want to be able to send an email from my computer to another without going through my emails smtp server
[06:25] <eyequeue> !info k9copy
[06:25] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 288 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[06:25] <gu014> Telroth_Plushie|: thank you. i will give it a try
[06:25] <sethk> kholerabbi, ok, then you have to configure an MTA (mail transport agent, aka email server)
[06:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> gu014, dd is nothing more than a literal copy program. "if=/dev/dvd" tells it to copy from the dvd drive and "of=/path/to/file.iso" tells it where to save the copy
[06:26] <eyequeue> gu014, k9copy is bloated, dd is not
[06:26] <sethk> kholerabbi, however, you seem to think that is a simple process, and it isn't
[06:26] <gu014> yes it is
[06:26] <Iceman241> wheres the xorg log file
[06:26] <sethk> kholerabbi, and you cannot configure an email server without having a domain for it to serve
[06:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:26] <kholerabbi> you can't :(
[06:26] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: I uninstalled package, stopped clamav - re-install and get same message "clamav: Depends: libclamav1 (>= 0.88.4) but 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[06:26] <sethk> kholerabbi, other email servers won't accept mail from it.
[06:26] <eyequeue> gu014, dd is bloated?
[06:26] <gu014> Telroth_Plushie|: can dd burn direct?
[06:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> gu014, if the kernel supports it
[06:27] <sethk> kholerabbi, why don't you want to use your email's server?
[06:27] <gu014> eyequeue: no, i agreed that k9 is
[06:27] <Madpilot> dannyr, do you have a stock sources.list, or is yours customized somehow?
[06:27] <sethk> kholerabbi, maybe there is some other way to accomplish whatever your goal actually is.
[06:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> dd of=/dev/dvd if=/path/to/image/i/made.iso
[06:27] <cajun> i can't change permissions for my XP partition.  every time i try I get a message saying the it's a Read Only Filesystem
[06:27] <cajun> how can i change that?
[06:27] <JoaoJoao> anyone here got dapper to work with jmicron chipset?
[06:27] <eyequeue> gu014, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38656 2006-05-05 17:50 /bin/dd
[06:27] <JoaoJoao> s/work/install
[06:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> gu014, though i suggest k3b for burning disks
[06:27] <kholerabbi> sethk: ok thanks must go bye :)
[06:27] <eyequeue> gu014, heh
[06:27] <Madpilot> cajun, writing to NTFS is not too safe w/ Linux.
[06:27] <sethk> I think it would be pretty hard to find anyone to say that dd is bloated   :)
[06:28] <eyequeue> 38k is rather lean, heh
[06:28] <ireneshusband> cajun, use captive-ntfs to do this.
[06:28] <gu014> eyequeue: ?
[06:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> Madpilot, just untested, not necesarrily unsafe. it's worked for me for 2 years without a single bit of data lost.
[06:29] <Madpilot> Telroth_Plushie|, lucky you!
[06:29] <sethk> Telroth_Plushie|, that does not imply what you believe it implies
[06:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> cajun, don't use captive-ntfs
[06:29] <eyequeue> gu014, that's ls -l /bin/dd, showing it's very small
[06:29] <sethk> Telroth_Plushie|, because there are well known ways to break the file system
[06:29] <thedash> I have no idea why this keeps freezing
[06:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's no longer maintained and has been replaced by fuse-ntfs
[06:29] <grimx> how do i change screen resoution
[06:29] <sethk> Telroth_Plushie|, and the fact that you didn't stumble across one of them does not mean that others will not.
[06:29] <Iceman241> crud how to get this working. dambit :(
[06:29] <eyequeue> !worksforme
[06:29] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:29] <cajun> what is the problem with trying to write to ntfs from linux?
[06:29] <Madpilot> cajun, it can destroy data.
[06:30] <sethk> grimx, if more than one resolution is defined in your config, you can cycle through them using control-alt-+ and control-alt-minus
[06:30] <grimx> the screen res might be y my java is lagging
[06:30] <eyequeue> cajun, it's notoriously unsafe
[06:30] <Iceman241> cajun Prepritatary filesystem
[06:30] <sethk> grimx, I wrote minus instead of control-alt--, but you know what I meant, I hope
[06:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> cajun, linux doesn't have drivers that are garunteed to work with ntfs
[06:30] <Madpilot> cajun, MS has never bothered to release specs for NTFS
[06:30] <eyequeue> cajun, as in, trash your whole fs
[06:30] <cajun> oh ok
[06:30] <sethk> grimx, use the + and - on the keypad, not the keyboard + and -
[06:30] <cajun> damn.  ok.  so i'll leave it alone then
[06:30] <dannyr> Madpilot: original with additions - please review at : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23181
[06:30] <cajun> is there any way that i can see my linux partition from XP?
[06:30] <Iceman241> why the heck does this stupid driver not work ..
[06:30] <Dani-Filth> I have gcc 4.x and 3.5 installed ... how can I use one of them instead of the other ?
[06:30] <eyequeue> cajun, write ms and ask for specs
[06:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> cajun, ext2fs
[06:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> google that
[06:31] <cajun> ok
[06:31] <Madpilot> !ntfs
[06:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:31] <cajun> what do you know about http://linux-ntfs.org?
[06:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> Madpilot, he wants to see his linux in windows
[06:31] <gu014> eyequeue,Telroth_Plushie|: is there anyway to obtain a status of 'dd'?
[06:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> cajun, just fuse-ntfs
[06:32] <Madpilot> Telroth_Plushie|, I know, I was mostly just checking what the !ntfs tell said - too lazy to msg the bot ;)
[06:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> cajun, it's just as unstable as what we described before
[06:32] <Dani-Filth> I have gcc 4.x and 3.5 installed ... how can I use one of them instead of the other ?
[06:32] <cajun> ok
[06:32] <eyequeue> gu014, dpkg -l coreutils
[06:32] <ireneshusband> cajun, fuse-ntfs should be ok though. it's not the same thing as the native linux ntfs driver.
[06:32] <sethk> Dani-Filth, you can use the full path to one (or the other) instead of allowing the shell to find gcc using it's execution search path
[06:32] <eyequeue> gu014, it should be there though
[06:32] <sethk> Dani-Filth, you can tell which is which by doing     gcc --version
[06:32] <ripper> or alias it
[06:33] <sethk> Dani-Filth, as an example, perhaps   /usr/bin/gcc --version
[06:33] <ripper> ok seems frostwire/limewire isnt going to work for me
[06:33] <sethk> Dani-Filth, use locate (or find) to find out where the various versions of gcc/g++ etc. are installed
[06:33] <ripper> and gtk-gnutella is confusing as shit
[06:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> you might also look at update-alternitives --config gcc
[06:33] <sethk> Dani-Filth, there is always a long name version, as in gcc-3.5xxx (it also usually has the architecture as part of the name) in addition to the gcc file
[06:33] <gu014> eyequeue,yes. i have that installed...running 'dd' and it is just hanging on the console
[06:33] <Madpilot> dannyr, your sources.list is a bit messed up, that could be why you're getting those errors - rebuild it and try again
[06:34] <eyequeue> alternAtives
[06:34] <ireneshusband> cajun, but if you need to share data between windows and linux a lot then you might find crossmeta.com a good place to look. they have a way to mount xfs filesystems under windows. i've used it a little and not had probs so far.
[06:34] <sethk> Dani-Filth, two names for the same file.
[06:34] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell dannyr about sources
[06:34] <Dani-Filth> sethk: Telroth_Plushie|: Thanks
[06:34] <Iceman241> how to tell ubuntu to usethe nvidia card, and the correct BusID for the nvidia card ? anyone
[06:34] <sethk> Dani-Filth, using the one with the version, etc, is better because then you will know by looking at the command line which one you used
[06:34] <eyequeue> gu014, hanging?  don't you mean still running?
[06:34] <treitter> hmm.. here's a tough call - is it faster to install Knot 1 and fully upgrade over the network, or download Knot 2 and upgrade? :)
[06:34] <grimx> ok did that and the screen is either to big or back where it was befor
[06:34] <gu014> eyequeue, yes of course
[06:34] <treitter> Knot 2's probably racked up too many updates to be worth it now, I guess
[06:35] <gu014> eyequeue, just saying..no status
[06:35] <Madpilot> treitter, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy issues
[06:35] <sethk> treitter, since we can't know your network access speed, nor the load on their server, nobody can really answer that
[06:35] <eyequeue> gu014, ps -w `pidof dd`
[06:35] <Iceman241> sethk there a way to manualy edit xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver, and the correct bus for the card
[06:35] <sethk> Iceman241, sure, use a text editor
[06:35] <sethk> Iceman241, it's just a file
[06:35] <eyequeue> gu014, like any good nix app, it doesn't clutter STDOUT :)
[06:35] <ireneshusband> how do i my dapper laptop to my home lan through a dapper desktop on the same lan?
[06:36] <treitter> Madpilot, sethk: oh, sorry. I wasn't really serious :)
[06:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> treitter, edgy updates so often it doesn't matter, you'll be doing large updates over network anyways
[06:36] <iceman241> problem it tried to load the nvidia driver, but not the monitor in the config.
[06:36] <sethk> treitter, that's ok, my answer was deliberately wrong  :)
[06:36] <sethk> iceman241, that makes no sense
[06:36] <sethk> iceman241, I have no idea what you are trying to say, but you didn't say it.  :)
[06:36] <sp0rk> so don't listen to this treitter, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
[06:37] <gu014> eyequeue, i have much to learn :/
[06:37] <iceman241> from what i am reading seeing, if i understand, it loades the nv driver, bit failed to load the monitor with it.
[06:37] <treitter> sethk: anyway, I wouldn't expect a serious answer. I know how wrong network transfer progress bars usually are :)
[06:37] <clearzen> I'm having a problem with a ssh service. My friend is trying to upload files using filezilla on a xp machine but he is getting a timeout error. However he can connect with putty. What is he doing wrong?
[06:37] <iceman241> sethk care to try it again
[06:38] <sethk> iceman241, try what again?  why would the result be different?
[06:38] <britt> clearzen: how is he transferring files? what protocol?
[06:38] <eyequeue> gu014, in the nix tradition, small apps are piped together :) "do one thing and do it well"
[06:38] <clearzen> Sftp over ssh2
[06:38] <gu014> eyequeue,dd: reading `/dev/dvd': Input/output error
[06:38] <iceman241> Has to be a way to get this driver installed :(
[06:38] <grimx> is there any way of changing ubuntu res or fit it to a different res
[06:38] <sethk> clearzen, load cygwin on the windows box and try sftp from the command line.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> grimx,  huh?
[06:38] <gu014> 580096+0 records in
[06:38] <gu014> 580096+0 records out
[06:38] <gu014> 297009152 bytes (297 MB) copied, 409.964 seconds, 724 kB/s
[06:38] <sethk> clearzen, if it works, you'll know the problem is in the windows client.  if not, you'll know the problem is in the server
[06:39] <grimx> ok screen res 800 600 is way to big
[06:39] <sethk> grimx, already answered
[06:39] <clearzen> ok thanks
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> !fixrez
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[06:39] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:39] <eyequeue> gu014, is that the actual device name?  he probably meant that generically.  it could be /dev/hdc
[06:39] <sethk> grimx, if you want to change the available resolutions, you can use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:39] <clearzen> I really don't thin it is on this side. I haven't had a problem until now
[06:40] <eyequeue> gu014, that looks like a dvd or cd
[06:40] <gu014> eyequeue, ugh, yes sir
[06:40] <gu014> hdb
[06:40] <iceman241> sethk read the pm ?
[06:40] <sethk> iceman241, I don't have it.  you'll have to reopen it.
[06:41] <gu014> eyequeue,  /dev/hdb returning me with the same error
[06:41] <eyequeue> gu014, that isn't an error, it is a success report
[06:42] <gu014> yes, but only 297mb
[06:42] <rendo> How do I make it so quotas set can be changed and make those changes PERMANENT
[06:42] <rendo> I just lost a days worth of work because a quota change didn't save and it OWNED my work.
[06:42] <gu014> eyequeue, 'dd: reading `/dev/hdb': Input/output error'
[06:42] <iceman241> sethk get it that time
[06:42] <iceman241> !pastebin
[06:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:43] <eyequeue> rendo, quota?  bizarre.  chown it back, use sudo if necessary
[06:43] <sethk> iceman241, sorry, I don't have a pm with you at the moment.  the last thing I have is a disconnect message.  I'll close the window.  then try a new pm
[06:44] <eyequeue> gu014, something weird on the disk at 297m in?
[06:44] <rendo> eyequeue, I AM doing it in Sudo, and it's not saving. :/
[06:44] <eyequeue> rendo, chown?  or an editor?
[06:44] <rendo> I was doing it in an editor.
[06:45] <rendo> For the user.
[06:45] <gu014> eyequeue, i'll try another disk
[06:45] <eyequeue> rendo, um, don't run editors as root unless, oh, the user isn't you?
[06:45] <rendo> It is, but isn't.
[06:45] <disasm> need to type in german (class homework) any tricks to change the keyboard mapping so I can use an esset and umlaut from vim?
[06:45] <sethk> rendo, what editor?
[06:45] <eyequeue> rendo, chown is what you want though, not an editor
[06:46] <dannyr> Madpilot: have gone back to original and added only 2 - 1 for mplayer and 1 other at the end - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23183
[06:46] <rendo> What do I type then?
[06:46] <sethk> rendo, editors will not save to a read only file, even if you own it or have root.
[06:46] <Flannel> disasm: you might try asking in #ubuntu-de ;)
[06:46] <Dysko> when you first install, how do you change to the root user
[06:46] <rendo> I'm logged in as root though.
[06:46] <eyequeue> rendo, sudo chown whoever filename
[06:46] <sethk> render, in some, e.g., vi, you can do it.  in vi, !x saves (and exits) a file even if it is read only.
[06:46] <Flannel> rendo: read only means read only, regardless of whomever you are
[06:46] <disasm> Flannel: I'm trying ;-) I've had 2 german classes so far ;-)
[06:46] <sethk> Flannel, if the editor can't override read only, then you have to change the file to read-write
[06:46] <eyequeue> rendo, editors do not change file ownership
[06:47] <iceman241> someone look at this pastebin and tell me if i am correct why this will not load the nvidia drivers, theres no sync range in the xorg.conf, so the nv driver will not load
[06:47] <dannyr> Madpilot: I still get the darn libclamav1 held back!
[06:47] <iceman241> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23182
[06:47] <iceman241> sethk read that pastebin
[06:47] <Dysko> what is the root login set as when you first install Ubuntu
[06:47] <Flannel> Dysko: it's disabled
[06:47] <eyequeue> Dysko, no such thing
[06:47] <Flannel> !tell Dysko about sudo
[06:47] <Madpilot> dannyr, you probably need to get that Debian repo out of there. Debian & Ubuntu are not compatible
[06:47] <sethk> iceman241, I have it, but what do you want me to tell you?
[06:47] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > Dysko
[06:48] <iceman241> Dysko you set the pass at the install
[06:48] <Madpilot> dannyr, not at the binary repo level, anyway
[06:48] <dannyr> Madpilot: ok - thank you - will do
[06:48] <sethk> iceman241, obviously if you don't want the intel used you should take all references to it out, but on the other hand, the references don't hurt anything if they aren't used later in the file.
[06:48] <iceman241> sethk there is no set sync range for the monitor in the nvidia driver part, so when it loads it cand sync the video ? would that sound correct ?
[06:48] <eyequeue> rendo, accomplish that chown yet?
[06:49] <sethk> iceman241, I see that it is using the nv driver, which is not the one we installed.  If you changed that on purpose that's fine
[06:49] <sethk> iceman241, no
[06:49] <rendo> no not really.
[06:49] <eyequeue> rendo, sudo chown whoever filename, that didn't work?
[06:49] <iceman241> Add the sync range lines for the Nvidia xorg.conf file, and use it then
[06:49] <Madpilot> dannyr, try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674 for your sources.list
[06:49] <sethk> iceman241, the documentation on the xorg site will tell you exactly what all that stuff in the file means.  but you are trying to understand it on the cheap, and that won't work
[06:49] <sethk> iceman241, no
[06:49] <eyequeue> rendo, sunstitute accountname and full path as needed
[06:50] <Madpilot> dannyr, only one you'll need to add to that is the dapper commercial repo - let Add/Remove Apps do that
[06:50] <sethk> iceman241, sync ranges are associated with monitors, not video cards
[06:50] <iceman241> sethk then how can it tell the sync range to set the video at ?
[06:50] <sethk> iceman241, the process is extremely complex.  just let dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do it for you
[06:50] <iceman241> but if the card cannot "tune" to the monitor, then what
[06:50] <eyequeue> rendo, are you getting errors or something?
[06:50] <sethk> iceman241, the driver probes for the card type and calculates what modes are possible for the card.
[06:50] <sethk> iceman241, then it falls back to a set of defaults
[06:50] <sethk> iceman241, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg takes care of all those details for you.
[06:51] <rendo> I don't know what the heck I;m doing.
[06:51] <rendo> I probably screwed it all up to begin with.
[06:51] <sethk> iceman241, make sure you choose the "middle" difficulty w.r.t. the monitor
[06:51] <rendo> Can't even find the file.
[06:51] <iceman241> then it makes no sence what it wont boot to the nvidia driver
[06:51] <sethk> iceman241, the one that let's you specify resolution and vert freq, _not_ sync rangtes
[06:51] <eyequeue> rendo, sudo chown whoever filename, type that in a terminal, then give it your password when asked
[06:51] <sethk> iceman241, you can't make it make sense by assuming incorrect things about the file
[06:51] <iceman241> ok ill try dpkg reconfig again
[06:51] <iceman241> back in a bit
[06:52] <dannyr> Madpilot: thank you for you time - again - I am using it and will post result so you can sleep at night
[06:52] <eyequeue> rendo, um, then how do you know quota changed the ownership?
[06:52] <kerwonz> how can i update to gnome 2.16?
[06:52] <rendo> I never said it changed the ownership.
[06:52] <rendo> I said I can't change the quota.
[06:52] <ashik> How to adjust screen resolution?
[06:52] <rendo> Like from 300 megs to 500 megs
[06:52] <eyequeue> rendo, <rendo> I just lost a days worth of work because a quota change didn't save and it OWNED my work.
[06:52] <rendo> It won't save.
[06:52] <rendo> No no, it owned the work I did.
[06:52] <jaytee> I'm having a problem getting higher resolution with my GeForce 6200 video card.
[06:52] <rendo> Because it went over the quota.
[06:52] <Flannel> disasm: - is s-zet, ;'[ are umlauts
[06:52] <eyequeue> rendo, so chown it back
[06:52] <rendo> And it didn't save because I went past the grace period.
[06:52] <jaytee> all I can choose is 640x480
[06:53] <rendo> Owned as it kicked it to the curb.
[06:53] <disasm> thankzou
[06:53] <rendo> Like CounterStrike Owned
[06:53] <rendo> You're dead
[06:53] <disasm> err thankyou
[06:53] <Flannel> disasm: oh yeah, and z and y are swapped ;)
[06:53] <Madpilot> dannyr, not a problem, hope things work out from now on - just be careful what you stick in sources.list - it's far too easy to screw up your Ubuntu that way
[06:53] <eyequeue> rendo, but i still don't see quota being able to change ownership
[06:53] <disasm> gotta get used to the swapped zy
[06:53] <rendo> It didn't change ownership.
[06:53] <ashik> i need 1024x800
[06:53] <ashik> how can i do that?
[06:53] <rendo> It exceeded the quota.
[06:53] <eyequeue> rendo, you said it did
[06:53] <disasm> Flannel: where is my slash
[06:53] <rendo> You misinterpretted.
[06:54] <Flannel> disasm: some of the shift-numerals are different as well
[06:54] <falcongrinder> anyone know where to get a program to run my wireless card
[06:54] <falcongrinder> ?
[06:54] <rendo> Owned as in it's gone, not owned as in took possession.
[06:54] <eyequeue> rendo, i adcise based on what you told us
[06:54] <disasm> Flannel: shift 7 it looks like
[06:54] <eyequeue> rendo, "gone" isn't ownership, "gone" is rm
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:54] <rendo> Okay, it didn't save completely due to lack of space.
[06:54] <rendo> And files became corrupt.
[06:54] <rendo> Better?
[06:55] <eyequeue> rendo, chown won't help that
[06:55] <eyequeue> chown (1)            - change file owner and group
[06:55] <eyequeue> chown (1posix)       - change the file ownership
[06:55] <eyequeue> chown (3posix)       - change owner and group of a file
[06:55] <eyequeue> chown (2)            - change ownership of a file
[06:55] <eyequeue> eww
[06:55] <rendo> I'm aware.
[06:55] <rendo> I want to edit the quota of the user, so I can increase the quota.
[06:56] <rendo> It won't save when I do it though.
[06:56] <rendo> That's my problem.
[06:56] <eyequeue> rendo, i don't run the quota app, but does it have a man page?
[06:56] <rendo> Ya.
[06:56] <rendo> I'll look through it.
[06:56] <ashik> how can i adjust screen resolution?
[06:56] <eyequeue> !info quota
[06:56] <ubotu> quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-4 (dapper), package size 390 kB, installed size 1168 kB
[06:57] <eyequeue> main :)  but optional, so not here
[06:57] <sethk> iceman24k, let's back up and think for a moment.  We know the following things:
[06:57] <sethk> iceman24k, one, you installed the nvidia drivers with no problems in breezy
[06:57] <sethk> iceman24k, you followed the instructions for doing it in dapper and it isn't working for you
[06:57] <sethk> iceman24k, therefore, none of the things you are thinking, looking at, etc., make the slightest bit of sense, because if they did, breezy wouldn't work either.
[06:57] <kerwonz> sorry, jeje how can i update to gnome 2.16 ? :/
[06:58] <rendo> N/m
[06:58] <rendo> I'm a RETARD
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> That "Ubuntu Hacks" book by Oriealy has a hack on Quotas.. not that i have a need for them :O but i skimmed it.
[06:58] <rendo> I was changing the damn group not the user.
[06:58] <sethk> iceman24k, what you should do is simply run breezy.  Why do you need to upgrade, _right now_, to dapper?
[06:58] <rendo> Why am I so stupid?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> you over wrote your quota so the over-quota files got owned by root?
[06:58] <sethk> rendo, did you sniff a lot of airplane glue?
[06:58] <Flannel> Dr_Willis: no, they didn't get written, he used 'owned' to mean 'messed up, gone, etc'
[06:58] <sethk> iceman24k, wait until dapper gets all sorted out, and then use it.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Flannel,  then what did he   change the group of?
[06:59] <eyequeue> Dr_Willis, confusing, eh? :/
[06:59] <ashik> I wonder, i m not getting my answer...
[06:59] <sethk> Dr_Willis, well, whatever he changed the group of, he meant to change the owner of ...
[06:59] <Flannel> Dr_Willis: no idea.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> ashik,  try that !fixres url yet?
[06:59] <sethk> ashik, sometimes it's just too buzy.  repeat your question
[06:59] <eyequeue> i wonder why people don't say what they mean when asking for support
[07:00] <sethk> Dr_Willis, sorry, didn't know you had answered
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> eyequeue,  or they constantly change the  problem as you answer them
[07:00] <ashik> How can I adjust screen resolution?
[07:00] <sethk> eyequeue, I often wonder that too.  Very commonly people will look at something which did, evidently, hundreds of things, and say it did "nothing".
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[07:00] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:00] <ashik> it restore previous setting everytime i login
[07:00] <sethk> people don't describe, they interpret and tell you their interpretation
[07:01] <eyequeue> Dr_Willis, yes i did that.  output?  none, i haven't run it yet
[07:01] <sethk> ashik, that's a perfect example.  you do not know that
[07:01] <sethk> ashik, what you know is that the displayed resolution is the same.
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> I'm having trouble logging on to Ekiga - can someone with experience with it help me figure out why?
[07:01] <sethk> ashik, you, incorrectly, assume that it was "changed back"
[07:01] <eyequeue> sethk, i love "it won't boot" when x is hosed
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> i used the gnome (or kde) res selector applet/control panel thing..
[07:01] <sethk> eyequeue, yes, or it "hangs"
[07:01] <ashik> i have no option other than the 640x400
[07:01] <sethk> ashik, ok, that's better.
[07:01] <sethk> ashik, that's what you _see_.  the other is what you _assume_.
[07:02] <sethk> ashik, what is probably happening is that the X server can't find a usable mode, and falls back on it's default modes.
[07:02] <sethk> ashik, but you don't need to guess.  you can look at the X log, in /var/log, and it will tell you _exactly_ what happened.
[07:02] <sethk> ashik, I'll get you the name
[07:02] <Chandu> hi,
[07:02] <sethk> ashik, usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:03] <sethk> ashik, if you don't know how to interpret the file, put is on the paste web site and we'll help you figure out what it is saying and what is happening.
[07:03] <Chandu>  I want to know is there any way to calculate the compile time for the soruce package
[07:03] <sethk> ashik, the hardest thing for most people is to _stop assuming_.
[07:03] <sethk> to troubleshoot, you have to be able to say the following:  I do not know yet.
[07:03] <eyequeue> Chandu, sudo apt-get install time && man time
[07:03] <Chandu> eyequeue:ok
[07:03] <falcongrinder> anyone else having problems with the syn package manager?
[07:04] <FunnyLookinHat> Does anyone know where I can download the daily image build for edgy?
[07:04] <sethk> ashik, my assumption has higher odds than yours', but it may be wrong also.  the thing to do is read the log file and then we'll both know, instead of guessing.
[07:04] <falcongrinder> its giving me a list of errors
[07:04] <foo> Anyone run asterisk and trixbox on top of debian? Just wondering. There is a trixbox ISO that sets up your system . but it's with CentOS. I think I'm just going to install that. bah.
[07:04] <sethk> falcongrinder, you mean synaptic?
[07:04] <eyequeue> FunnyLookinHat, find a mirror on google
[07:04] <falcongrinder> yes
[07:04] <sethk> foo, I haven't tried it, no.
[07:04] <foo> sethk: thanks
[07:04] <sethk> falcongrinder, can you tell us one of these errors?
[07:05] <sethk> falcongrinder, or, paste the errors on the paste web site and tell us the URL?
[07:05] <falcongrinder> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_plf_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:05] <eyequeue> falcon3, df /var
[07:06] <Chandu> eyequeue: How to estimate the time , that for the compilation of this source package it is going to take this much time
[07:06] <eyequeue> falcon3, if the percentage is low, sudo apt-get update
[07:06] <Flannel> foo: shouldn't you be asking in #debian?
[07:06] <foo> Flannel: uh, whY?
[07:06] <foo> Flannel: err, I meant ubuntu.
[07:06] <foo> Flannel: My bad.
[07:06] <Flannel> foo: wasn't your question... ah, I see.
[07:07] <foo> sorry
[07:07] <eyequeue> Chandu, sudo apt-get install crystalball && man guesswork
[07:07] <jazzrocker> proudly?
[07:07] <jazzrocker> was it that hard? :P
[07:07] <Timus> hey im sorry to bother you guys i was wondering do you need to pay license for ubuntu in a coperate enviroment such as useing ubuntu on all the desktops there or is it free?
[07:07] <foo> jazzrocker: eh, it was tough. But I made up my mind :p
[07:07] <Flannel> Timus: nope, it's all free.
[07:07] <jazzrocker> Timus, it's all free
[07:07] <eyequeue> Chandu, no way to know what else you'll be running during the compile, cron etc
[07:07] <Timus> kool thanks
[07:08] <Timus> cya
[07:08] <sethk> Timus, however, donations to my personal account are always accepted  :)
[07:10] <isos> hey there ... can tar -cf create zips?
[07:10] <sam_> Hi
[07:10] <sam_> How do I install Tux racer?
[07:10] <eyequeue> isos, man zip.  pipe it
[07:10] <eyequeue> !info zip
[07:10] <ubotu> zip: Archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.31-3 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 240 kB
[07:11] <sethk> isos, no
[07:11] <eyequeue> isos, sudo apt-get install zip && man zip.  pipe it
[07:11] <ashik> sethk: I got a lot of things here. what should be my next step?
[07:11] <sethk> isos, but a program that can is available
[07:11] <noobie0057> Hi I'm using Gnome,, it is possible to have a different CPU for each desktop?
[07:11] <isos> thanks sethk
[07:11] <sethk> ashik, can you post the X log file to the paste web site?
[07:11] <Madpilot> sam_, it's in repos - Universe, I think - pretty sure the package is planetpenguin-racer
[07:11] <sethk> ashik, I realize X isn't running for you on that box, but perhaps you can sftp the log file to another box, or whatever?
[07:11] <sam_> Thanks MATE.
[07:11] <sethk> ashik, wait, it is running
[07:12] <sethk> ashik, wrong resolution, but running.  so you can paste
[07:12] <sam_> Ubuntu is the best thing since sliced bread.
[07:12] <Iceman241> been a complete waste of time today.
[07:12] <sam_> It rawks my wifes undies off.
[07:12] <Iceman241> why cant i get the nvidia driver to freaking work
[07:12] <ashik> sethk: how to paste and where to paste?
[07:12] <eyequeue> !paste
[07:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:12] <sethk> ashik,   !paste
[07:13] <Chandu> eyequeue:from where can I get crystalball package ..it is not in the reporitory
[07:13] <spatry> Hi.   How do we switch from text to graphical grub bootup?
[07:13] <eyequeue> Chandu, that was humour, not literal
[07:13] <sam_> I'm thinking about deleting Windows, are there many commercial games for linux/ubuntu?
[07:13] <sethk> ashik, just edit the file with a gui editor, and copy and paste to the web browser pointed at that url.  it's easy
[07:13] <sethk> ashik, if you aren't familiar with any of the editors, use gedit
[07:13] <noobie0057> can each desktop in gnome have a different CPU ?
[07:13] <eyequeue> Chandu, you can't know how long something will be in advance
[07:14] <sethk> ashik, it does what you would expect it to do.
[07:14] <sethk> noobie0057, no
[07:14] <noobie0057> thanks
[07:14] <sethk> noobie0057, well, not without patching the kernel, which I've done but is not trivial
[07:14] <sam_> Windows will die.
[07:14] <sethk> noobie0057, so effectively, no.
[07:14] <sethk> sam_, don't bet the house on it.
[07:14] <noobie0057> sethk,, is there a project that you know of to do this?
[07:15] <Chandu> eyequeue:ok
[07:15] <sam_> Linux is free.....it should be way more popular and it's not that hard to use.
[07:15] <sethk> noobie0057, no, I've done it at work.  I haven't found a project.  want to start one?
[07:15] <ashik> sethk: i can't open it by gedit.
[07:15] <Flannel> ashik: why not?
[07:15] <sethk> ashik, what happens?
[07:15] <noobie0057> sethk, sounds pretty good, if I could just share a hard drive and a monitor, copy and paste...
[07:16] <Madpilot> sam_, there are some commercial games w/ Linux versions - all the iD stuff, for example
[07:16] <Jebho> i installed dapper drake....the networking tool shows two wireless devices...a wifi0 and a wlan0, does this mean that it automatically recognizes my wireless card?  and if so, which device do i use?
[07:16] <eyequeue> sam_, freedom isn't popular (politics seems to agree)
[07:16] <noobie0057> I thought it might have been more simple
[07:16] <ashik> sethk: its message like "cannot open display: (null)"
[07:16] <sethk> noobie0057, the reason I've done it is to get more throughput in a router.  patches like that are very difficult to port forward as new kernels are released.
[07:16] <Flannel> ashik: ah, try nano instead of gedit
[07:16] <ADx> hey
[07:16] <ADx> yuhu
[07:16] <sethk> ashik, edit it as a normal user, not root
[07:16] <ADx> anybody's here ?
[07:16] <sethk> ADx, no
[07:16] <ADx> :P
[07:16] <ADx> hey dude
[07:17] <ADx> dan you help me whit my instalation
[07:17] <mtholdenss> know how to share a net connection?
[07:17] <sethk> ADx, ask a specific question, then you'll get answers from people who know the answer.
[07:17] <eyequeue> mtholdenss, NAT
[07:17] <ADx> ok ok
[07:17] <Iceman241> screw dapper sucks
[07:17] <noobie0057> sethk, thanks for the info, I'm still very new to linux, I was hoping that it was a matter of right clicking something. If a project did exist on it I would join it
[07:17] <ADx> well wen  i star the live cd
[07:18] <eyequeue> !language
[07:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:18] <mtholdenss> eyequeue what u mean? NAT?
[07:18] <mtholdenss> i can do it in xp with a cross over cable..
[07:18] <ADx> everythig going normal
[07:18] <sethk> Iceman241, it has a few glitches; it's relatively new.  for its age, it's actually remarkably stable and good
[07:18] <ADx> and then
[07:18] <ADx> wen i pres into install
[07:18] <pyrokenx> Hello all, I am going a tad bit crazy.. I am not really new to Linux, I am just seeing if anyone can perhaps help me with what I am dealing with :)
[07:18] <Iceman241> anyone a linux god that can install the nvidia driver please .
[07:18] <ADx> it
[07:18] <ADx> just
[07:18] <eyequeue> mtholdenss, Network Address Translation, what do i win?
[07:18] <ADx> nothing happens
[07:18] <Iceman241> 10 hours fighting this driver ... :(
[07:18] <sethk> ADx, nothing happens?  the screen displays nothing?
[07:18] <mtholdenss> eyequeue u dont win anything now how i share to my mac?
[07:19] <eyequeue> mtholdenss, NAT
[07:19] <noobie0057> :( just a regular god,, sorry
[07:19] <ADx> no , i mean
[07:19] <pyrokenx> I am attempting XGL/Compiz-vanilla on AMD64 (and to make matters harder than typical, using proprietary ATI FGLRX drivers)
[07:19] <mtholdenss> i dont know how, your not helping
[07:19] <ADx> the screen just saty like that and
[07:19] <sethk> Iceman241, you should have stopped 9 hours and 45 minutes ago.  why do you need to use dapper?  you know breezy is working for you.  wait a while for dapper.
[07:19] <ADx> nothing happens
[07:19] <Protostar> how do you change themes in Kubuntu?
[07:19] <sethk> ADx, try a text mode install.  it's on the alternate cd
[07:19] <mojo_3> Argh, stupid ubuntu.  I have everything set up perfectly, ive never had that happen with any other distro.  Now I dont know what to do :(
[07:19] <pyrokenx> I have XGL, and Compiz fully working
[07:19] <ADx> ahhhh
[07:19] <eyequeue> mtholdenss, if you're looking for some gui thing to set up NAT, i'm told firestarter can do that
[07:19] <sethk> mojo_3, break it.
[07:19] <pyrokenx> except for the one problem of no titlebars :)
[07:19] <Protostar> I know this is a n00b question, but I can't find any wya to change thems
[07:19] <ADx> and what are the commands of thje ocnsole in linux ubuntu
[07:19] <mtholdenss> ok thanks
[07:20] <pyrokenx> no matter what I do, I cant get any titlebars
[07:20] <pyrokenx> and this is after adding decoration in gset
[07:20] <sethk> ADx, have you downloaded and burned the alternate install cd?
[07:20] <mojo_3> ill delete a random file in /boot and go from there :)
[07:20] <eyequeue> ADx, go there and hot tab twice in rapid succession
[07:20] <ADx> i have the cds
[07:20] <ADx> thore have been shiped into my haouse
[07:20] <eyequeue> ADx, hit
[07:21] <ashik> sethk: thank you .... i did
[07:21] <ADx> just hit
[07:21] <sp0rk> !xgl
[07:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:21] <ADx> ??
[07:21] <sethk> ADx, ok, then boot it, and do what eyequeue told you.
[07:21] <mojo_3> maybe I should install gentoo again.  Thatll keep me busy
[07:21] <sethk> ashik, give us the url
[07:21] <ADx> tap twice in rapid sucetion ?
[07:21] <Jebho> i installed dapper drake....the networking tool shows two wireless devices...a wifi0 and a wlan0, does this mean that it automatically recognizes my wireless card?  and if so, which device do i use?
[07:21] <sethk> mojo_3, keep your machine busy, not you.  :)
[07:21] <eyequeue> ADx, go to console and hit tab twice in rapid succession
[07:21] <ADx> ok
[07:21] <sethk> ADx, actually, you can type two tabs slowly also, makes no difference
[07:21] <ADx> im gonna try that
[07:21] <ADx> :D
[07:21] <ADx> so wen i tip tap
[07:21] <sethk> ADx, that's called tab completion, and when you hit tab twice, it shows you all the available commands.
[07:22] <ADx> tip tab
[07:22] <ADx> ahh ok ok
[07:22] <iustin> Can anyone give me the location of dapper`s system sounds
[07:22] <ADx> is like asking for hel
[07:22] <sethk> ADx, if you type A, then tab, it will show you all the commands that begin with A
[07:22] <ashik> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:22] <sethk> ADx, yes, in a way.  there is also help
[07:22] <ADx> ohhhhhhh
[07:22] <ADx> i see
[07:22] <ADx> :d
[07:22] <eyequeue> Display all 4870 possibilities? (y or n)
[07:22] <sethk> ashik, I know, but we need the rest, which is a number of the paste?
[07:22] <falcongrinder> quick question..  how do I make sure Im running as root in terminal
[07:22] <falcongrinder> ?
[07:22] <ADx> THXS dudes
[07:22] <sethk> falcongrinder, id
[07:22] <iustin> Can anyone give me the location of dapper`s system sounds
[07:22] <ADx> you habe been so kind
[07:22] <mojo_3> How do I make my machine be productive without me having to do anything... besides running distributed computing projects
[07:22] <ADx> ^^
[07:22] <ashik> ok that is still to do.
[07:22] <sethk> falcongrinder, id shows your user and group ID.  if they are 0, you are root
[07:22] <eyequeue> falcongrinder, whether or not you typed sudo
[07:22] <sethk> ashik, k
[07:23] <eyequeue> !root > falcongrinder
[07:23] <mtholdenss> eyequeue  thanks :) firestarter is helping a lot...
[07:23] <sethk> falcongrinder, you can also use:     whoami
[07:23] <iustin> Can anyone give me the location of dapper`s system sounds
[07:23] <eyequeue> mtholdenss, i'm glad ,it's also nice to watch the attacks roll in :)
[07:23] <Iceman241> ok, what the heck back to breezy, Dapper sucks for installing the NVidia drivers.
[07:23] <pyrokenx> so, anyone know of any tricks for me maybe? ;p
[07:23] <mtholdenss> attacks roll in?
[07:24] <falcongrinder> and root being the name of my computer?
[07:24] <sysdoc> Iceman241, lol 1 sec I got a url for ya
[07:24] <iustin> Can anyone give me the location of dapper`s system sounds
[07:24] <eyequeue> iustin, ls /usr/share
[07:24] <iustin> thx eyequeue
[07:24] <sam_> How do you change your splash screen? is there a program that will do it automatically?
[07:24] <sam_> gnome
[07:25] <sethk> Iceman241, I think I said that several hours ago several times.
[07:25] <eyequeue> iustin, probably audio or something
[07:25] <Jebho> where can i find the source code for ubunut?
[07:25] <mortal5> has anyone here gotten ffmpeg to work in dapper?
[07:25] <Lam_> would it be better to remove data off my second drive, convert it to ext3, and put it back on there, or leave it as ntfs and get an ntfs driver for linux
[07:25] <madgamer> Anyone here using Ubuntu on a Mac Pro?
[07:25] <sethk> Lam_, convert it.
[07:25] <eyequeue> Jebho, all ubuntu mirrors would have it
[07:25] <iustin> eyequeue, thank you truly
[07:25] <sethk> Lam_, writing to NTFS has major problems
[07:25] <sam_> anyone?
[07:25] <mojo_3> hmmm...  how would I go about recomplining everything on ubuntu from source...
[07:25] <sethk> Lam_, reading from ntfs is ok.
[07:25] <sysdoc> Iceman241, see pm
[07:25] <Jebho> Lam_, i use fat32
[07:25] <eyequeue> Jebho, pick one close to you
[07:25] <eyequeue> iustin, sure thing
[07:26] <diego> hola
[07:26] <Lam_> Jebho: i considered fat32 but it seems like hassle without journaling
[07:26] <pyrokenx> why use fat32 when you can use a fairly excellent EXT3 or reiserfs driver for windows? ;p
[07:26] <sam_> how do you change your splash screen?
[07:26] <sethk> Lam_, if both windows and linux need to read and write, you can use fat32, or buy an ext3 driver for windows
[07:26] <diego> espaol
[07:26] <pyrokenx> just use a very small ntfs partition
[07:26] <sethk> pyrokenx, free?
[07:26] <pyrokenx> yessm
[07:26] <pyrokenx> lemme find
[07:26] <Lam_> sethk: ok thanks
[07:26] <eyequeue> !es > diego
[07:26] <sethk> Lam_, I was wrong about buy, there is apparently a free ext3 for windows.
[07:27] <Jebho> well fat32 worked for me so i just decided to keep it
[07:27] <Lam_> sethk: yeah. i'm looking at one at the moment. would it be better just to go ext3 then and just use a windows driver if need be?
[07:27] <madgamer> I managed to install Ubuntu 6.06.1 on my Mac Pro but it tries to install Grub by default and it caused a problem.
[07:27] <Jebho> didnt have to install any drivers for windows or anything
[07:27] <sethk> Lam_, yes.  ext3 is far superior to fat.  fat doesn't have permissions, owners, etc.
[07:27] <sethk> Lam_, plus ext3 is much faster
[07:27] <mortal5> has anyone here used ffmpeg in dapper?
[07:27] <Jebho> but i have backups of all the data on that partition so i wasnt as concerned about that stuff
[07:27] <sethk> Lam_, has better recovery tools also.
[07:27] <eyequeue> or journalling?
[07:27] <pyrokenx> EXT2 FS driver for XP www.fs-driver.org/
[07:28] <sethk> Lam_, just remember that there is no unerase
[07:28] <sethk> pyrokenx, only ext2, or supports ext3 also?
[07:28] <ashik> sethk: Ashik-X.org.O.log
[07:28] <tamacracker> Hey what's up guys?
[07:28] <madgamer> hey there
[07:28] <Lam_> sethk: only ext2, but pretty much same thing without journaling anyways
[07:28] <sethk> Jebho, if fat32 works for you, by all means use it.
[07:28] <sethk> Jebho, I was speaking more generally, but I should have added "if you need those features"
[07:28] <x_O> I installed bittornado - but it doesnt appear in the menu and I cant launch it with the terminal - so whats wrong?
[07:28] <Lam_> sethk: but yeah. when i erase, i intend it to be erased, so that shouldn't be an issue. thanks
[07:28] <sp0rk> !edgy
[07:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:28] <tamacracker> Well I have a quick question, I'd like to know how it would be possible to open a .RAR file
[07:29] <Lam_> !schedule
[07:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:29] <eyequeue> tamacracker, unrar, watch the bot
[07:29] <eyequeue> !info unrar
[07:29] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[07:29] <wastrel> <3 those release timetables
[07:29] <eyequeue> tamacracker, meaning you need that repo
[07:29] <sethk> tamacracker, there is a program.  some problems have been reported for rar files with passwords.  ordinary rar files are no problem
[07:29] <Jebho> i've looked on the mirrors site.....no files for source code that i see, only desktop cd, alternate cd, and server cd versions
[07:29] <ashik> sethk: I posted as Ashik-X.org.O.log
[07:29] <eyequeue> !repos
[07:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:29] <madgamer> !info lilo
[07:29] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-7ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 335 kB, installed size 1072 kB
[07:30] <x_O> sethk: Hey, do you know how to launch bittornado?
[07:30] <YeTr2> I'm having an issue with this pcmcia 10/100 network card I have. while using the 2.4 kernel in a previous distrobution, this card worked as it should using the 3c574_cs, but once I upgraded to a 2.6 kernel, the card just stopped working all together
[07:30] <tamacracker> !info unrar
[07:30] <pyrokenx> Firefox is running so slow now its unbearable
[07:30] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[07:30] <pyrokenx> every letter I type it takes 3 seconds for it to go in now
[07:30] <YeTr2> pyrokenx: get rid of flash
[07:31] <pyrokenx> YeT: it didnt occur after flash, it occured after XGL/Compiz
[07:31] <somboon> Hi, could anybody tell me what website explain best about virtualhost for ubuntu ? thanks
[07:31] <pyrokenx> even worse it occured with proprietary ATI drivers
[07:31] <eyequeue> pyrokenx, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:32] <JDStone> how do I apply a debdiff to a package?
[07:32] <pyrokenx> much thanks
[07:32] <gea> hai
[07:32] <tamacracker> eyequeue?...
[07:32] <eyequeue> !repos > tamacracker
[07:32] <gea> nm km?
[07:32] <tamacracker> ah ok
[07:32] <gea> aneh bgt nm km
[07:32] <knapper> Hello friends
[07:33] <gea> hai
[07:33] <gea> nm lo
[07:33] <x_O> Can someone please tell me why my programs refuse to open?
[07:33] <x_O> Like, GEDIT?
[07:33] <Omnius_> G'day, im having probs with internet connection, or rather ubuntu connecting  to it
[07:33] <x_O> And wtf is wrong with bittornado ? wont open either
[07:33] <knapper> I'm looking for a program that can check a hard drive for errors, preferably via CD. Anyone know of any such thing?
[07:33] <eyequeue> gea, language?  country?
[07:33] <YeTr2> x_O: open up a term of some kind and try, you might get an error message then
[07:33] <x_O> I have - no errors.
[07:34] <gea> pk b. indonesia aja np
[07:34] <Omnius_> 6.06 both with xubuntu and ubuntu
[07:34] <gea> what?
[07:34] <YeTr2> x_O: from running your gedit and bittornado from a term?
[07:34] <x_O> Yes.
[07:34] <clarence> Hi is there some simple way to share my ubuntu machane with my winxp on my network?
[07:34] <x_O> It just goes to the next prompt
[07:34] <Gevaudan82> clarence: samba
[07:34] <Lam_> is there an ubuntu edgy eft channel?
[07:34] <britt> I'm looking for a drive mount situation where the data is read, and then edited and written to teh drive, but all of the changes are trashed when the server turns off
[07:34] <eyequeue> !esgy > Lam_
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <britt> anything?
[07:34] <eyequeue> !edgy > Lam_
[07:34] <Lam_> lol
[07:35] <sp0rk> does anoyone know of an alternate server that has the xgl repositories?  the one in the howto is NOT responding
[07:35] <gea> hello
[07:35] <clarence> I am new to linux and I have played around with samba cant figure it out
[07:35] <eyequeue> britt, you contradict yourself there
[07:35] <eyequeue> britt, written?  trashed?
[07:35] <Iceman241> anyone a guru and able to ssh a install ?
[07:35] <bintut> hello all.. anyone here uses ATI video card?  how can i make use of fglrx with 3d hardware accelleration and DRI support?
[07:35] <britt> eyequeue: what im looking for is a system where I can read data, and then use the data but not write to the drive
[07:36] <JoseStefan> knapper, hard drive manufacturers usually have such software
[07:36] <Overand> I can't get ubuntutop to work
[07:36] <britt> AKA readonly, but wouldnt one get errors saying 'cant write or save' esp. with databases.
[07:36] <eyequeue> britt, mount it ro, man mount
[07:36] <Overand> "cannot connect to fam: connection refused"
[07:36] <YeTr2> clarence: what exactly are you trying to do with samba?
[07:36] <knapper> JoseStefan, yeah, but are there any 3rd party ones you know of?
[07:36] <Overand> i've tried a dpkg-reconfigure fam, and i've tried to start fam manually (/etc/init.d/fam/start)
[07:37] <x_O> E: Type 'The' is not known on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:37] <x_O> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:37] <JoseStefan> knapper, maybe norton utilities has a few when you boot from the CD
[07:37] <x_O> Ubuntu the easiest thing on the planet to break.
[07:37] <x_O> sigh.
[07:37] <clarence> YeTr2: Share my files with my winxp computer on my local network
[07:37] <britt> Im just thinking that if i had security issues, they wouldnt be able to write anything, and then to restart i start where i left off with a clean slate
[07:37] <Gevaudan82> clarence: use the default /etc/samba/smb.conf file, pay attention or change the netbios name and then apend something like this for each dir you want shared:  [www]  <n>comment = Web Root <n> path = /www <n>writable = yes where <n> is a new line
[07:37] <britt> eyequeue: kind of like DeepFreeze for Linux.
[07:37] <knapper> JoseStefan: thanks
[07:37] <eyequeue> britt, no idea what that is, sorry
[07:38] <Omnius_> why would both xubuntu and ubuntu both 6.06 have probs browsing the net, some pages load, most dont
[07:38] <Omnius_> its not my home network
[07:38] <YeTr2> clarence: there are a few different ways you can go about doing this in samba. are you just wanting general read/write access to the machine to anyone who connects to it?
[07:38] <Overand> when I do ps -ef | grep fam, I don't see fam
[07:38] <Omnius_> cause all my M$ os comps work fine
[07:39] <x_O> sudo gedit doesnt do anything !! anyone tell me wtf is wrong with my system?
[07:39] <clarence> YeTr2: yes
[07:39] <Overand> Omnius_: reboot a windows machine and verify that they still work =] 
[07:39] <britt> eyequeue: would ro work for like, mail or something? Would linux complain about not being able to 'save' mail?
[07:39] <Omnius_> done that twice
[07:39] <Overand> and/or try a live-CD on one of those windfows boxes that works
[07:39] <britt> i mean could i still read it?
[07:40] <Gevaudan82> x_0: try gksu gedit
[07:40] <Omnius_> im on winxp atm, with my xubuntu desktop next to me
[07:40] <eyequeue> britt, if ro, you can't write to it, so yes
[07:40] <x_O> What does the gksu command mean, its like sudo?
[07:40] <Overand> Omnius_: if the hardware is the same, it's possible that ubuntu doesn't play nice with whatever your network card is.
[07:40] <Omnius_> synaptic works
[07:40] <Overand> Omnius_: in all likelihood, though, it's a DNS issue
[07:40] <Gevaudan82> x_0: yea but it's for apps that are spawning a gui
[07:40] <britt> eyequeue: so ro has no real daily use then, right?
[07:40] <eyequeue> x_O, not used in ubuntu, it's more like su
[07:40] <Schalken> is there a Gaim channel for general linux queries?
[07:40] <Schalken> i mean IRC
[07:40] <britt> i need like ro acting like rw
[07:40] <britt> like a ramdisk i suppose
[07:41] <Gevaudan82> schalken: #linuxhelp
[07:41] <eyequeue> britt, i'd say it's common.  think cd/dvd
[07:41] <Omnius_> can i add my isp dns addresses to the xubuntu dns table?
[07:41] <Schalken> Gevaudan82: thanks!
[07:41] <YeTr2> clarence: is this machine going to be on all the time?
[07:41] <x_O> So what commands should I use? Su, or Sudo?
[07:41] <ashik> sethk: Is there anything in the log file that i should change?
[07:41] <britt> eyequeue: i get where you're going with that
[07:41] <x_O> I got an error message back - I will pastbin it.
[07:41] <Vic1ous> hey im new to Ubuntu but i downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and im installing it but its at 15% and hasnt moved in like 30 minutes
[07:41] <Vic1ous> should it takt that long
[07:42] <Gevaudan82> x_0: sudo for command line tasks requiring root, gksu for gui apps requiring root and su only if you want to enable root for extended sessions...change root's password by typing sudo passwd root
[07:42] <eyequeue> britt, it is also used with the "remount" option in mount, can be handy for the root fs
[07:42] <Lam_> when removing a program that installed dependencies, is there a way to check currently installed programs for dependencies and remove any unnecessary packages?
[07:42] <clarence> YeTr2: It is my personal computer so it is usualy on.
[07:42] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, do NOT advise that in here please
[07:43] <Gevaudan82> eyequeue: what, the enable root part
[07:43] <Madpilot> Gevaudan82, yes, it's not needed or advised
[07:43] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, or su, ubuntu uses the sudos
[07:43] <x_O> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23192
[07:43] <Gevaudan82> eyequeue: it is needed when you are doing extended configuration requiring root privilages...most of the vunerabilities are because users log into ubuntu using root
[07:43] <x_O> what does this error mean?
[07:44] <YeTr2> clarence: I would also suggest that this machine also be configured to be the master browser w/ netbios naming service, as well as just doing a simple share.
[07:44] <Vic1ous> so anyone know why its stuck at creating filesystem ext3 and not miving
[07:44] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, and how would they "log in as root" with no password?
[07:44] <Vic1ous> but the comp isnt locked up
[07:44] <x_O> I can't do anything - certain apps won't open, I can't edit my sources.list ... sigh.
[07:44] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, send them to the !root page, it talks of sudo -i though
[07:45] <Gevaudan82> eyequeue: i agree...but there are a lot of command line tasks it is much easier to su and then perform your tasks...i never log into to gnome as root
[07:45] <dannyr> Madpilot: apt-get now says 0.82 installed - but I can find no reverence to it - nor can I start it ip <ugh>
[07:45] <x_O> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23192
[07:45] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, there is zero need to su, ever
[07:45] <eyequeue> !root > Gevaudan82
[07:45] <Madpilot> dannyr, is this clamav still? I know zip about it, actually. I don't bother running any AV on Ubuntu myself.
[07:46] <britt> eyequeue: sudo fails when hackers get in
[07:46] <britt> thats why i use su
[07:46] <Gevaudan82> eyequeue: not to get into an argument or whatever but why do every other distro recommend su and require editing of /etc/sudoers for sudo privilages?
[07:46] <Lam_> do i need to install firestarter and clamav for proper security?
[07:46] <Iceman241> ok, i give the hell up. this nvidia method sucks
[07:46] <dannyr> Madpilot: Yup and I am about to give up for a while
[07:46] <Gevaudan82> Lam_: are you running a server?
[07:46] <Madpilot> Lam_, not really
[07:46] <Iceman241> ubuntu has failed once
[07:46] <Lam_> no
[07:46] <Lam_> and thanks :)
[07:46] <Gevaudan82> Lam_: no then
[07:46] <x_O> MY COMPUTER IS ON FIRE.
[07:46] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, bring it up with ubuntu security team if you disagree, not #ubuntu
[07:46] <JoseStefan> x_O, tru with sudo instead, or use a CLI based editor
[07:47] <x_O> JoseStefan: Tried with sudo - first command I try.
[07:47] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, that was to britt ^^
[07:47] <Gevaudan82> i think it is a personal preference honestly...i'll leave it at that but i think users should know what choices are out there
[07:47] <x_O> JoseStefan: I install bittornado - but there's no way to open it!
[07:47] <Iceman241> do not believe that the nvidia driver is that stinking hard now, used to be so freaking simple in breezy
[07:47] <Vic1ous> how long should the craeting file ext3 take when installing ubuntu???
[07:48] <Iceman241> well try again tomarrow. ;( this sucks
[07:48] <dannyr> Madpilot: I had a lot of trouble getting spamassassin to work on ubuntu - I am a little dissapointed - there are a few things that still need to be tidied up - when is the new version due - do you know?
[07:48] <JoseStefan> x_O, one problem at a time
[07:48] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, please read tje web site about the ubuntu policy before advising in here then
[07:48] <Madpilot> dannyr, no idea, I use gmail for my main email and they have excellent spam filters
[07:48] <x_O> JoseStefan: This box has many. I just want to replace my sources.list cuz now even synaptic wont' work.
[07:48] <Gamekiller> good evening all i have a very simple but some what odd problem that i just trying to make work
[07:49] <Lam_> i have a amd64 laptop with a broadcom wireless adapter in it.  for that scenario, is it even advisable to get the x64 ubuntu if i want working wireless?
[07:49] <Gamekiller> trying to set a keybind to run 3ddesk
[07:49] <x_O> But I am extremely irritated that I can't get bittorrent to work reliably. Frostwire wont open either! makes no sense to me.
[07:49] <eyequeue> Vic1ous, mkfs varies depending on your hardware
[07:49] <lampshade> people have any problem with system tray in wine hanging around after all programs are closed?
[07:49] <Gamekiller> i followed all guild on the website but i can not get the key to bind
[07:49] <x_O> It's ALL worked before, at some point in time on previous Ubuntu installs.
[07:49] <x_O> this is like my 8th reinstall
[07:49] <Vic1ous> well i have 3500 amd 64, 2 gig ram
[07:49] <Gevaudan82> x_0: probally has to do with your router firewall if you have one...open up ports 6881-6889
[07:49] <JoseStefan> x_O, can you put your sources.list on the pastebin?
[07:49] <indigoblu> whats the best way to do an LVM install with Ubuntu
[07:49] <dannyr> Madpilot: that works for you - but I have to support linux here - and I am having some trouble replicating the production box
[07:50] <x_O> No router.
[07:50] <x_O> Direct Connection thru modem.
[07:50] <x_O> JoseStefan: yes, just a sec
[07:50] <Vic1ous> can i pm you eyequeue im getting a headache trying to keepp up
[07:50] <eyequeue> Vic1ous, a 2 gb fs?  sounds slow to make
[07:50] <eyequeue> Vic1ous, i know nothing of time though
[07:50] <Madpilot> dannyr, fair enough - I'm purely a desktop/home user, not a server guy
[07:51] <x_O> JoseStefan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23193 theres the list
[07:51] <Vic1ous> ok well let me ask this
[07:51] <indigoblu> does Ubuntu's stock kernel support LMV or EVMS in its initrd? Can I make a LVM root partition?
[07:51] <Vic1ous> should i have gotten the 64 bit version
[07:51] <x_O> I already have another sources.list that I want to replace it all with, but I can't get to that step.
[07:51] <twysted> http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/09/11/space.tourist.microsoft.reut/index.html
[07:51] <twysted> http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/09/11/space.tourist.microsoft.reut/index.html
[07:51] <Vic1ous> or will this work
[07:51] <eyequeue> Vic1ous, usually no, that's a problem child, i guess
[07:51] <JoseStefan> x_O, something messed up your sources.list badly, but i'm sure you know that by now
[07:52] <x_O> JoseStefan: yea, thats what Im trying to fix, but the darn thing wont let me
[07:52] <x_O> lol
[07:52] <Gamekiller> i am using metacity commond one
[07:52] <Gamekiller> with F12
[07:52] <JoseStefan> x_O, try generating a sources list using source-o-matic, download the file to your home dir, and use "sudo cp" to replace the old one
[07:52] <disinterested> i still cant get the volume controls to work in dapper any help?
[07:52] <Gamekiller> or i would like to use the windows key
[07:52] <x_O> I was just looking at the soureomatic lol
[07:53] <JoseStefan> !source-o-matic
[07:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:53] <x_O> But ... what do I do about Frostwire, and Bittornado not opening? How do I fix that?
[07:53] <ashik> sethk: I am waiting for your reply
[07:53] <JoseStefan> x_O, lets get your sources working first ;)
[07:53] <britt> x_O: got java?
[07:53] <x_O> I think I have java, was pretty sure i installed it via easyubuntu.
[07:53] <Healot> !info java-package
[07:54] <ubotu> java-package: utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.27 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 336 kB
[07:54] <x_O> I know frostwire requires it.
[07:54] <zptao> how do i tell what socket my motherboard uses?
[07:54] <indigoblu> zptao: look up the model online
[07:54] <zptao> how? it's a dell machine
[07:54] <JoseStefan> x_O, for the time being, create your sources.list using the official repos only
[07:54] <indigoblu> zptao: what speed CPU?
[07:55] <zptao> 2.8ghz pentium 4 prescott
[07:55] <indigoblu> ddr2 or ddr1
[07:55] <zptao> ddr1
[07:55] <indigoblu> and what kind of chipset?
[07:55] <zptao> no idea
[07:55] <indigoblu> probably socket 478
[07:55] <x_O> JoseStefan: this soureomatic is a peice of crap ... i can check off either the first half, but not be able to get anything from the seocnd half without losing the top half
[07:55] <x_O> wtf whoever did that was stupid
[07:56] <Gamekiller> has any one worked with metacity keybinds
[07:56] <Gamekiller> ok i have to go bbl
[07:56] <x_O> JoseStefan: pastebin ur sources.list and ill use that lol
[07:56] <JoseStefan> x_O, you are on dapper right?
[07:56] <x_O> Yes.
[07:57] <JoseStefan> x_O, join #x_O
[07:57] <Jebho> is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces?
[07:58] <tamacracker> eyequeue, thank you!! :)
[07:58] <dmsantam> Jebho ctrl-alt-left_arrow
[07:58] <dmsantam> Jebho unless i changed it and can't remember :)
[07:58] <eyequeue> tamacracker, no prob
[07:58] <Jebho> ha, thats it, thanks
[07:58] <ktekx> at installation, i've been on this blue screen for a long time (-_-)
[07:58] <ktekx> anybody know whats up?
[07:58] <Jebho> how do you use wpa authentication for wireless?
[07:59] <indigoblu> Jebho: install NetworkManger and let it handle it for you
[08:00] <speedycalabro> anyone having kontact crash lately?
[08:00] <speedycalabro> hmmmm....maybe i should say hi first
[08:00] <speedycalabro> sorry
[08:00] <speedycalabro> haha
[08:01] <speedycalabro> but nonetheless, it just started doing it recently
[08:01] <speedycalabro> gives me some kind of sig error
[08:01] <Madpilot> !enter
[08:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:01] <Lam_> if linux doesn't have a "real" virus yet, what does clamav even scan for?
[08:01] <britt> fake viruses
[08:01] <Madpilot> Lam_, Windows viruses
[08:01] <Lam_> ah, ignorance.  ok
[08:02] <britt> Madpilot: why scan for viruses that cant be ran?
[08:02] <Madpilot> Lam_, so you don't pass them on to your friends who are unfortunate enough to be still stuck with Windows
[08:02] <Lam_> that's their fault for not having antivirus
[08:03] <Lam_> lol. i just realized the irony in what i said
[08:03] <sam_> How do you change your splashscreen?
[08:03] <sam_> !splashscreen
[08:03] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[08:03] <cafuego> or even easier, use gtweakui.
[08:05] <Madpilot> there is a Gnome splashscreen utility - install it and you don't have to mess with gconf-editor
[08:05] <ashik> I have posted my log file in pastebin as Ashik-X.org.O.log. Could anybody please help me?
[08:05] <sam_> what is it called?
[08:05] <emesgee> o.o whenever I use apt-get I get this error: E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:05] <ashik> the file is about screen resolution
[08:06] <Jebho> when you install programs with synaptic package manager....where do they go?  i.e. how do i find them to place in menus and what not
[08:07] <Lam_> is there a way to get ubuntu to render the splashscreen in 16:9 or 16:10?
[08:08] <pkh> is there a gui app that will alow a user to find and replace in a number of files across folders (a gui version of find ... exec sed ...?)
[08:10] <Lam_> thanks guys. bye all
[08:10] <mtholdenss> i think it may be xgl that had been causing my screensaver to go to black cause i just did a re install and xgl isnt installed and hasnt gone black..odd
[08:10] <emesgee> how do I fix apt-get, its bugging me about JEDIT
[08:10] <britt> xgl still is only supported by nVidia cards right?
[08:11] <emesgee> I used XGL on an ati card before
[08:11] <cafuego> mtholdenss: Yes. Xgl is not production ready. By any stretch of the imagination. Running opengl apps on it will BREAK X.
[08:11] <sam_> What is the splashscreen changer called?
[08:11] <mtholdenss> cafuego. how can i fix that, run xgl as a seperate session ?
[08:12] <cafuego> mtholdenss: Either that or just don't run it ;-)
[08:12] <Madpilot> sam_, I'm not sure, and I'm not on my home machine so I can't check easily. Search Synaptic for 'splashscreen'
[08:12] <cafuego> The altter solution makes your machine much faster *nodnod*
[08:12] <mtholdenss> cafuego, but i love the compiz eye candy stuff...
[08:12] <sam_> ta
[08:13] <thoreauputic> cafuego: my machine runs real fast if I don't start X! Wow! *grin*
[08:13] <indigoblu> does Ubuntu's stock kernel support LMV or EVMS in its initrd? Can I make a LVM root partition?
[08:14] <indigoblu> thoreauputic: what kind of graphics card?
[08:14] <cafuego> mtholdenss: Xgollum. prreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeciousssssssssss!
[08:14] <thoreauputic> indigoblu: I was kidding :) Any machine runs faster without X
[08:14] <Healot> partition mount as "/": indigoblu? yes
[08:14] <mtholdenss> cafuego, ?
[08:14] <indigoblu> Healot: im a Gentoo convet, I hear using Alternate CD with stock kernel is just fine?
[08:14] <Jebho> where do programs installed by synaptic reside?
[08:15] <thoreauputic> Jebho: depends - games in /usr/games, most things in /usr/bin...
[08:15] <Healot> yes. the alternate CD can do lvm partitioning
[08:15] <indigoblu> Healot: great, im using LVM root now and I like it.... one big fat partition
[08:15] <thoreauputic> Jebho: if that's what you meant - the packages land in /var/apt/cache/archives IIRC
[08:16] <Jebho> no, the actual binaries
[08:16] <Healot> indigoblu: tips, make /boot on a non-LVM partition... in case of anything happens
[08:16] <thoreauputic> erm /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:16] <thoreauputic> Jebho: as I said it depends
[08:17] <britt> does bootcd create a bootable cd of the ubtuntu install?
[08:17] <thoreauputic> Jebho: type dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin  to see
[08:17] <Jebho> and also, my windows partition always mounts on my desktop when i load up ubuntu, how do i permantently disable that, i have gone into the 'disks' utility and disabled it on a few different occasions
[08:17] <indigoblu> Healot: yeah but if the cd can read the partition im fine.  This is a desktop machine so it's never going to be far from a rescue cd
[08:18] <Healot> indigoblu: just in case we f***ed, you know, just my two cents
[08:18] <thoreauputic> Jebho: edit /etc/fstab and remove the "auto" from the line referring to /dev/hda1 ( assuming that's your windows partition)
[08:18] <britt> thoreauputic, or add noauto
[08:18] <indigoblu> Healot: yeah... does the Alternate cd setup LVM for you or do you have to run vg/pv(create)
[08:19] <thoreauputic> britt: yes actually that's correct
[08:19] <thoreauputic> britt: I think it might be necessary as well
[08:19] <mtholdenss> how do i edit the default session?
[08:19] <coredata> you tell me ;)
[08:19] <Healot> indigoblu: no need, the partitioner will do that for you, well, d-i-y
[08:21] <emesgee> can someone please help me with my apt-get problem >_<
[08:21] <Healot> emesgee: ask ahead
[08:22] <emesgee> whenever I try to install something with apt-get
[08:22] <emesgee> it says E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:22] <dumpty> hi! please help, explain how to create a sequencer device in ubuntu?
[08:22] <JoseStefan> emesgee, you might have something wrong with your sources.list
[08:23] <MrKeuner> hi, printer is connected to a dapper system A on my local lan. On the dapper system B i cannot see that printer although i have done ./enable_sharing and ./enable_browsing on A and enabled detection of lan printers on B. What else should I do?
[08:23] <BHSPitLappy> hi all
[08:23] <emesgee> JoseStephan: I got the package from wget.. but I'll check my sources list
[08:23] <Jebho> thoreauputic, there is no "auto", only this line.../dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:23] <BHSPitLappy> I need to turn off using the ALT key to move a window, hopefully just for a specific window/program. it's interfering with a game.
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Jebho: right, britt pointed out you need to add "noauto"
[08:24] <MrKeuner> !help
[08:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:24] <Jebho> just anywhere on that line is fine?
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Jebho: I would add it after defaults
[08:25] <Jebho> thanks
[08:25] <thoreauputic> Jebho: no spaces
[08:26] <thoreauputic> Jebho: actually mine just has  noauto,ro,users,umask=022
[08:26] <thoreauputic> works fine
[08:26] <ompaul> !ask
[08:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:27] <britt> anybody know how to install ubuntu onto a laptop with a atheros wirelesscard
[08:28] <ktekx> after it checks for hardware..
[08:28] <ktekx> it just hangs
[08:28] <ktekx> at a blue screen
[08:28] <ktekx> for a long time
[08:28] <ktekx> anybody have had this experience before or is it normal for it to be on this screen for a long ass time?
[08:29] <emesgee> I tried installing it on my ancient laptop from 1997 :P and I sorta got the same problem
[08:29] <Gevaudan82> ktekx: did you recently change your hostname?
[08:30] <MrKeuner> hi, printer is connected to a dapper system A on my local lan. On the dapper system B i cannot see that printer although i have done ./enable_sharing and ./enable_browsing on A and enabled detection of lan printers on B. What else should I do?
[08:31] <britt> ghetto hardware + new OS = problems
[08:31] <britt> I have a HP Netserver thats useless
[08:34] <sam_> how do you change the grub splash screen?!?!
[08:34] <Healot> !usplash
[08:34] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:35] <brendonjt> !edgy
[08:35] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:35] <Chandu> hi , I want to know about ubuntu package versioning policy .. From where I can get
[08:35] <Jebho> more simple questions from me....i installed network manager (with the gnome frontend), i dont know how to access/configure it now
[08:36] <rbrtoclto> compiz is amazing
[08:36] <Gevaudan82> Jebho: refresh me, what does network manager do?
[08:36] <Chandu> For example: For "Ubiquity" package version if "1.1.15" , what does it mean
[08:36] <britt> !compiz
[08:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:36] <rbrtoclto> but still a bit gumby to use
[08:36] <britt> oh
[08:36] <Jebho> i was told to download it in order to handle wpa authentication
[08:36] <brendonjt> hi ya all  just installed ubuntu edgy
[08:36] <brendonjt> and i love the new look it is cool
[08:37] <Gevaudan82> brendonjt: have you used dappy? does edgy seem stable at this point?
i have just installed and did the update, it is at beta1  and it looks good
[08:38] <thoreauputic> Jebho: try doing the following in order: go to System- admin- networking and disable your interfaces there including wifi, then type  nm-applet  in a terminal
 completly new look and stable at the moment firefox seems a bit buggy but it is good
[08:38] <Gevaudan82> brendonjt: i'm not really interested in upgrading at this point but out of curiosity is there a specific repo you have to enable to access the latest and greatest?
[08:39] <Madpilot> brendonjt, all browsers are buggy, so what's new? ;)
[08:39] <dannyr> I am still attempting to install clamav on ubuntu - apt-get clamav says that it is installed - but no clamd or conf files - I cant find anyother references on howto's
[08:39] <thoreauputic> Jebho: then click the applet and add your network
[08:39] <Jebho> thoreauputic: should i deactivate my wired connection as well?  thats what im using right now
[08:39] <brendonjt> artwork umm  lots of others
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Jebho: you need to have no entries like   eth0 inet dhcp  in your network interfaces, so yes
[08:40] <Healot> !perl
[08:40] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: sudo apt-get clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam clamtk libclamav1
[08:40] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3219 kB, installed size 11172 kB
 went to ubuntuguide and got a list of repos for edgy and that will upgrade but i downloaded the iso and did clean install
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Jebho: network manager takes over all interfaces
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Jebho: you might need to run   sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart after making the changes
[08:40] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: err, put an install after the apt-get
[08:42] <panther> recccssssssssss
[08:42] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: great thank you - but<g> :  unmet dependencies: clamav-freshclam: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.88.2-1ubuntu1) but 0.88.4-0volatile1 is to be installed - Is this a reference to sources reference?
[08:43] <ktekx> Gevaudan82: sorry late response, but no, this is my first attempt at installing ubuntu
[08:43] <Gevaudan82> dannyr: it really sounds like you have either not installed hte extra repos which are avilable via ubuntuguide or not refreshed them so they are available...honestly, i can't think of anything else...
[08:43] <ktekx> i dont know if its still installing or is it just frozen
[08:44] <Gevaudan82> ktekx: what was your problem?
[08:44] <sp0rk> !edgy
[08:44] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:44] <frying_fish> anyone know of a way to force aptitude to fix a program (not -f ) as I can't even remove this program it fails on processing a script
[08:44] <sp0rk> !schedule
[08:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:44] <frying_fish> its the gtk2-engines package for edgy, trying to upgrade but getting blocked by that.
[08:44] <Gevaudan82> when is edgy expected to be releashed and wil it be relativly seamlesss to upgrade from dapper drake?
[08:45] <frying_fish> 26/10 for edgy
[08:45] <Gevaudan82> ubotu, you old dog, thanks
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you old dog, thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Gevaudan82: and yes, it will be easy to upgrade
[08:46] <ktekx> Gevaudan82: this is my first time i'm installing ubuntu, it goes past the hardware detection thing w/ the CD drive
[08:46] <ktekx> but then it just hangs at a blue screen
[08:46] <ktekx> if i press anything, the blue screen moves up and i end up w/ a black screen
[08:46] <sam_> What is the program that puts a mac like Dock Bar thingee on ure screen?
[08:47] <Gevaudan82> ktekx: not sure about the blue screen...you are booting natively and not using vmware right? the inevitable blackscreen is probally due to ubuntu not detecting your video card...laptop or desktop?
[08:47] <Gevaudan82> sam_: gdesklets has something to do that
[08:48] <Gevaudan82> sam_: know that you ahve to add it to your gnome session to have it enabled upon boot
[08:48] <ktekx> yea i'm booting natively, on a desktop
[08:48] <britt> will glx ever be launched with Dapper
[08:49] <ktekx> if its not detecting my vid card, would it still display text?
[08:49] <britt> or will we have to wait?
[08:49] <ktekx> cuz when i type something, it still shows the text, but it just doesnt do anything
[08:49] <starfishy> the upgrade from dapper to edgy seems a bit less straightforward than etch->sid usually is
[08:49] <Gevaudan82> ktekx: yes it would still display text
[08:49] <ktekx> Ooh
[08:49] <sam_> thanks
[08:50] <starfishy> i should have upgraded before installing all that stuff
[08:50] <Gevaudan82> ktekx: i really suck at hardware diagnostics but is this an nvidia or ati card?
[08:50] <Madpilot> starfishy, should be just a dist-upgrade ("just" being a dangerous word here...)
[08:50] <thoreauputic> starfishy: edgy is currently much more... um .. edgy than sid :)
[08:50] <ktekx> its neither, its onboard video for an old IBM computer
[08:50] <starfishy> madpilot: the main points seem to be sysvinit->upstart and some of the python stuff
[08:50] <Jebho> thoreauputic: didnt get it to work
[08:51] <starfishy> thoreauputic: if it doesnt work out for me Ill just reinstall
[08:51] <Jebho> thoreauputic: also, the wireless didnt work, which, thats fine for now, but networkmanager wouldn't let me use my wired connection
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Jebho: hmmm - well what i told you is about right, but frankly network manager is still pretty beta IMO
[08:52] <thoreauputic> Jebho: you might have better luck with netapplet - but that uses the normal interfaces files
[08:52] <Gevaudan82> ktekx: interesting, most older graphics chips are supported by default...i won't be of much help with the syntax but there's a way to boot to init runlevel 3 giving you a terminal and allowing you to boot the generic vesa driver which should at least give you a gui while you look for a driver...anyone can help w/ the syntax?
[08:52] <thoreauputic> Jebho: my wifi card doesn't support wpa so i can't really help on that
[08:52] <Jebho> ok, well thanks for the help, i've heard the wireless card i have is troublesome as it is
[08:53] <holycow> just boot into recovery mode and do sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:53] <X-ray> hey guys
[08:53] <holycow> select all the defaults but select vesa manujally as the driver at the beginning
[08:54] <Jebho> this no wireless thing is just bugging me because i have to drape a wire across my apartment to use ubuntu instead of windows, otherwise i'd be using it all the time and trying to learn more abou it
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Jebho: just for reference - it took me a day of hair pulling to get my card working with nm-applet and wep :)
[08:54] <starfishy> so is edgy fit for day-to-day use?
[08:54] <starfishy> dapper seems to currently have problems with Xgl
[08:55] <FirstStrike> !edgy
[08:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:55] <Jebho> would it be any easier to change the router back to wep and try using the interface that comes with dapper to network?
[08:55] <Jebho> and just see if i can get my card working?
[08:55] <ktekx> can you guys give me a bit more watered down how-to? i'm a complete linux noob trying to get the hang of it
[08:55] <FirstStrike> and starfishy..edgy is not ready for the desktop yet.
[08:55] <Jebho> im really not too worried about security anyways
[08:55] <melon> i know it's all about preference.. but.. is there a standout program for burning iso images in ubuntu that i should check out?
[08:55] <frying_fish> Jebho: although thoreauputic may have had problems, wep and mine with nm worked instantly
[08:55] <X-ray> which file do I have to edit to have my ndiswrapper started every time I reboot?
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Jebho: I would start with no encrytion, get that working, then try wep
[08:55] <frying_fish> so it depends on your chipsets possibly.
[08:55] <orphean> X-ray: Add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[08:56] <britt> Jebho, id just use wep
[08:56] <X-ray> orphean: thx
[08:56] <Jebho> ok
[08:56] <starfishy> FirstStrike: what are the main issues?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> frying_fish: probably a different card - mine is the new bcm43xx module ( airport express)
[08:56] <sam_> How do you load a program automatically on login...i want to open xmms automatically
[08:56] <frying_fish> thoreauputic: that would be why, the bcm43xx has lots of fun
[08:56] <starfishy> i am used to running sid, so occasional hiccups with the package management dont matter
[08:56] <frying_fish> I have intel ipw2200
[08:56] <FirstStrike> starfishy: a lot of things are broken as of yet..it's less stable than dapper as of right now..and you may have issues with libc.
[08:56] <orphean> sam_: if you're using gnome, go to System->Preferences->Sessions
[08:56] <thoreauputic> frying_fish: yes, it's quite "young" :)
[08:56] <starfishy> ok
[08:57] <Jebho> but another question...if ubuntu installs a wifi0 and wlan0 in the "networking" tool after installation does this mean my card will be supported from the get go
[08:57] <frying_fish> I personally have edgy issues with gtk2-engines
[08:57] <orphean> sam_: then go to the Startup programs tab and add xmms there
[08:57] <starfishy> so i may have to go back to sid :\
[08:57] <frying_fish> it is refusing to let me update it and is broken
[08:57] <frying_fish> and aptitude is not wanting to resolve it using any form of solution.
[08:57] <cafuego> thoreauputic/frying_fish: If you run the latest Dapper kernel and have the firmware, networkmanager should be just dandy with the bcm43xx.
[08:57] <isos_> heya
[08:57] <Jebho> i have like a dwl-520+ or something, a "special" card as i have read from the community posts
[08:57] <isos_> how can I use scp?
[08:57] <frying_fish> cafuego: ok.
[08:57] <FirstStrike> starfishy: it is not recommended to upgrade dapper to edgy as of right now. you should install edgy onto a separate partition.
[08:57] <frying_fish> isos_: man scp
[08:57] <sam_> .where is startup?
[08:58] <X-ray> orphean : I can't find that folder?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I have - and i used your firmware - but I ended up downgrading network-manager-gnome because the newes one would not associate
[08:58] <orphean> X-ray: its a text file in the /etc folder :)
[08:58] <isos_> frying_fish: I did ... but I need the graphical way
[08:58] <X-ray> can't find it either
[08:58] <isos_> I searched but couldn't find anything
[08:58] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Weird, not had problems with it here.
[08:58] <sam_> thanks
[08:58] <orphean> X-ray: then just create /etc/modules and add in ndiswrapper
[08:58] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I have it working with wep now using the 0,51 version on my iBook
[08:59] <X-ray> orphean: lols thx, ok
[08:59] <dannyr> Gevaudan82: I located the extra repos and installed / updated - but still get unmet depends: "clamav-freshclam: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.88.2-1ubuntu1) but 0.88.4-0volatile1 is to be installed" - don't loose sleep over it - but if you can think of something stupid that I am missing -----?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> I think that's the right version, have to check
[08:59] <starfishy> FirstStrike: i have a half broken dapper installation
[08:59] <orphean> X-ray: sudo echo "ndiswrapper" >> /etc/modules
[08:59] <starfishy> so i will try the upgrade and if it doesnt work for me ill reinstall
[08:59] <byebye``> hello
[08:59] <X-ray> thx
[08:59] <FirstStrike> starfishy: k
[08:59] <sam_> I know how to see my windows files but how do i make it mount automatically when i boot up?
[08:59] <byebye``> i have a problem
[08:59] <X-ray> orphean, I found it before but forgot
[08:59] <byebye``> so maybe someone can help me
[08:59] <byebye``> pls
[09:00] <thoreauputic> cafuego: are you using the gnome network manager thing?
[09:00] <starfishy> FirstStrike: i have been experimenting with xgl/compiz all afternoon and it largely works but there are still a bunch of unsolved issues
[09:00] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Yup. Mine's on version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7
[09:00] <kling0n_> sam_, add to /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs auto,uid=(your userid) 0 0
[09:00] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I'm scared to try it again ;) I have the older one working now
[09:00] <cafuego> thoreauputic: it leps me select networks from the pull-down and (if appropriate) prompts be for the network key/pass.
[09:00] <melon> nm - going with k3b
[09:00] <FirstStrike> starfishy: it ran fine for me. did you follow the official ubuntu guide?
[09:00] <sam_> how do i sudo edit ?
[09:00] <sam_> lol
[09:01] <sam_> im new.
[09:01] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Actually, this is on my desktop, not the laptop with bcm43xx.
[09:01] <thoreauputic> cafuego: yes, I get prompted for my wep pass
[09:01] <cafuego> lemme boot that && check
[09:01] <kling0n_> sam_, must have done a mkdir -p /mnt/win' for it to work though :)
[09:01] <starfishy> FirstStrike: i followed the guide
[09:01] <thoreauputic> cafuego: but the latest gnome version refuses to s=associate at all
[09:01] <starfishy> the problem turned out to be 16bpp display instead of 24bpp
[09:01] <thoreauputic> times out
[09:01] <starfishy> for some weird reason kubuntu installed 16bpp as default
[09:02] <FirstStrike> ah..i don't run kde.
[09:02] <kling0n_> sam_, alt-f2, then 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[09:02] <falcongrinder> hello.  I just got some stuff off on the synaptic package manager and im unsure of how to install it
[09:02] <kling0n_> or maybe gksudo
[09:02] <sam_> thanks your a legend.
[09:02] <el_capitan|afk> could somebody tell me how to get permission to move a folder to another folder
[09:02] <el_capitan|afk> is there a way to just have it recognise me a root or owner or whatever all the time
[09:03] <thoreauputic> el_capitan|afk: which folder to which folder ?
[09:03] <Jebho> how'd you guys get so well versed in linux if you don't mind me asking...like how old are you/how long you been using it
[09:03] <sam_> is my user id my login name?
[09:03] <el_capitan|afk> a folder on my desktop to amsn's skins folder
[09:03] <kling0n_> el_capitan|afk, sudo chown -R <your username:your username> /path/to/dir
[09:03] <X-ray> orphean: if I wanna auto mount a partition at startup, is a entry in mtab enough?
[09:03] <thoreauputic> Jebho: about 4 years in my case
[09:03] <britt> Jebho, im 20 and ive been using linux for about 5 years
[09:03] <melon> heh - i'm 3 days into linux
[09:03] <melon> 'n damnit.. i'll never go back
[09:04] <britt> i still have redhat 5,2 CDs
[09:04] <Shadowpillar> http://www.nerdyshirts.com/images/shirts_im-legal.gif
[09:04] <britt> melon, thats the spirit
[09:04] <britt> im trying to convert my girlfriend over to linux
[09:04] <isos_> anyone knows if there is a graphical program for using scp ?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> el_capitan|afk: if the sj=kins folder is in ~/.amsn or whatever it should not need special privileges
[09:04] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Unless there was an overnight update, mine should be happy still.
[09:05] <thoreauputic> cafuego: no, this was a few days back
[09:05] <el_capitan|afk> sudo: must be setuid root
[09:05] <cafuego> isos_: gnome (nautilus) supports sftp:// network shares (and sshfs mounts ANY remote ssh dir)
[09:05] <el_capitan|afk> I know it shouldnt
[09:05] <kling0n_> isos_, you can go to "places" - "connect to server" and add the sftp location
[09:05] <el_capitan|afk> but it does
[09:05] <shasbot> is it easy to recompile the kernel in ubuntu?
[09:05] <el_capitan|afk> and now I get that message when trying to use sudo
[09:05] <Jebho> britt:  ha, my girlfriend was about to pay to have a cable company network all her roommates computers for liek 350 because she didnt understnad what it meant
[09:05] <thoreauputic> cafuego: there's a note about it on the wiki wifi page, which is why I downgraded it to get it working
[09:06] <britt> Jebho, yikes!
[09:06] <el_capitan|afk> so what does sudo: must be setuid root mean?
[09:06] <Jebho> britt:  so no converting her
[09:06] <isos_> I used ssh through connect to server before but ssh is so slow
[09:06] <britt> Jebho, im planning on getting married soon and I told her my HP Netserver is coming with me
[09:06] <kling0n_> isos_, change cipher to blowfish and add compression flag
[09:06] <isos_> I need to use scp ...
[09:06] <Jebho> so what was the reason you guys got into linux//how did you get exposed?
[09:06] <isos_> what is that?
[09:07] <kling0n_> isos_, 'man ssh'
[09:07] <thoreauputic> Jebho: totally sick of MS in my case :)
[09:07] <melon> lol - i got sick of things going bump in the night
[09:07] <melon> every corner i turned.. there was a new problem or crash
[09:08] <kling0n_> linux is also a good opportunity to learn new stuff... once you've given up on the windows guessgame
[09:08] <Jebho> i guess i've never really had that big of problems to really get into it
[09:08] <kling0n_> if it doesn't work in unix - YOU did it wriong :)
[09:09] <falcongrinder> anyone setup kismet? im having a problem
[09:09] <kling0n_> s/io/o/
[09:09] <X-ray> me 2
[09:09] <melon> i don't expect magic - but it sure does cure frustration when u realise there's a perfectly good alternative..
[09:09] <isos_> guys ... I am asking about scp ... any graphical program for it?
[09:09] <X-ray> kismet is letting me down :)
[09:09] <Subhuman> isos_, gftp
[09:09] <Jebho> just taking an os class and an embedded class that use linux so i installed a version
[09:09] <kling0n_> isos_, you got 4-5 responses to that already
[09:09] <cafuego> thoreauputic: "ii  network-manager- 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 ..."
[09:09] <falcongrinder> I just picked it up and im not sure how to make use of it
[09:09] <nikin> isos: scp? what is that?
[09:09] <cafuego> thoreauputic: BUT... that one already has the wep key in the keyring.
[09:09] <isos_> I don't wanna use sftp or ssh
[09:09] <melon> plus as kling0n_ mentioned.. it's a great opportunity to learn :)
[09:09] <thoreauputic> cafuego: yeah, that's the one I couldn't get working :)
[09:10] <isos_> gftp is slow
[09:10] <isos_> using ssh
[09:10] <frying_fish> isos_: scp is part of ssh
[09:10] <isos_> I used them all ..
[09:10] <frying_fish> "secure copy" as part of "secure shell"
[09:10] <isos_> I know .. I've been told that scp is a fast secure copy using ssh
[09:10] <isos_> and I am looking for fast
[09:10] <isos_> I went man scp but it's all in terminal ... so I want a graphical "scp"
[09:10] <thoreauputic> cafuego: ii  network-manager 0.5.1-0ubuntu19
[09:10] <cafuego> isos_: tweak your ssh params to use fast encryption and compression.
[09:11] <X-ray> orphean
[09:11] <falcongrinder> x-ray, after synaptic what sis you do to install it
[09:11] <orphean> yes?
[09:11] <falcongrinder> ?
[09:11] <thoreauputic> cafuego: minf you, I'm a wifi beginner :)
[09:11] <thoreauputic> *mind
[09:11] <frying_fish> isos_: why not just use it in terminal?
[09:11] <cafuego> thoreauputic: <heh>
[09:11] <isos_> I am not that expert .. just new to linux
[09:11] <kling0n_> isos_, open a location in nautilus, press "ctrl-L" and type "sftp://servername"
[09:11] <frying_fish> and you could always mount using sshfs, then it would work
[09:11] <X-ray> falcongrinder, I used ubuntu
[09:11] <orphean> X-ray, yes?
[09:11] <frying_fish> with nautillus
[09:11] <falcongrinder> what do you mean?
[09:11] <X-ray> orphean, how do I automount a partition?
[09:11] <kling0n_> isos_, but it will still be dependant on your network link to the server
[09:12] <isos_> yeah .. thanks guys
[09:12] <frying_fish> X-ray: add its details to /etc/fstab
[09:12] <nocti> X-ray: edit /etc/fstab
[09:12] <orphean> X-ray: You'll need to edit your /etc/fstab file.
[09:12] <X-ray> lol thx
[09:12] <X-ray> haha
[09:12] <X-ray> strangely enough I overlooked that file
[09:13] <X-ray> tho I was specifically looking for it
[09:13] <orphean> welcome to linux :D
[09:13] <britt> later fellas!
[09:13] <X-ray> meh I've been around tho
[09:14] <kling0n_> X-ray, 'man hier' for a detailed description of filesystem leyout
[09:14] <kling0n_> layout even
[09:15] <Overand> I can't get famd to run (ubuntu-server amd64)
[09:15] <X-ray> kling0n_,  k thx
[09:15] <bintut> hello all..
[09:16] <frying_fish> anyone have any ideas on how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23195
[09:16] <Overand> nevermind- got it.
[09:17] <X-ray> how do I mount a ntfs partition? do I need to convert it or can I use some library to make it readable?
[09:17] <Overand> X-ray: do you only need to read it, or do you need to write data to it?
[09:17] <orphean> X-ray: mount -t ntfs /dev/hd<WHATEVER> /path/to/my/mount/point
[09:17] <Healot> frying_fish: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:18] <Lam_> is there a way (via program or linux kernal or whatnot) to encrypt certain files to require the sudo command to read them by the user, but make them readable by what program is using it by default
[09:18] <frying_fish> Healot: that was an apt-get -f install
[09:18] <X-ray> Overand, writing would be handy
[09:18] <orphean> X-ray: or in an fstab friendly form: /dev/hd<WHATEVER> /path/to/my/mount/point  ntfs  noatime  0 0
[09:18] <Lam_> more of a manner of encrypting things like the gaim accounts.xml file
[09:18] <bintut> i just installed ubuntu dapper amd64 here on my laptop..  i want to try xgl here.  anyone can confirm if i'm currently currently running a hardware accelleration already by checking my paste in http://rafb.net/paste/results/IGbdLQ57.html ?
[09:18] <orphean> or whatever options you need
[09:18] <X-ray> orphean, options for reading writing?
[09:18] <X-ray> rw?
[09:19] <Healot> frying_fish: apt-get clean first
[09:19] <orphean> X-ray: yeah :)
[09:20] <bintut> anyone?
[09:20] <frying_fish> Healot: nope, still the same problem, I'm guessing its because it is the latest version in edgy and that may be why its broken,
[09:20] <X-ray> orphean: rw is enough?
[09:20] <frying_fish> it is annoying, because if I could just get that one package it would finish sorting itself out
[09:21] <X-ray> anyone knows a WORKING wifi monitor? for just viewing signal strength and such?
[09:22] <frying_fish> X-ray: airsnort?
[09:23] <orphean> X-ray: Wait.
[09:23] <orphean> X-ray: I'm stupid ;)  rw is a no-go on a ntfs partition with the driver ubuntu gives in the kernel.
[09:24] <orphean> X-ray: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 follow that HOWTO
[09:24] <X-ray> meh
[09:24] <orphean> its what I use at any rate.
[09:24] <X-ray> I've ruined it already...
[09:24] <X-ray> I chmodded the mount folder after I didn't see anything
[09:24] <X-ray> previously
[09:25] <orphean> I doubt you ruined it
[09:25] <orphean> unless they compiled in experimental write support into the kernel
[09:25] <orphean> which I doubt they did
[09:25] <X-ray> well... fixing it is a mess
[09:25] <X-ray> how do you chmod a folder to make it readable writable?
[09:26] <X-ray> sudo chmod rwxX user folder?
[09:26] <X-ray> didn't work out
[09:26] <frying_fish> you need the numbers don't you
[09:26] <X-ray> oh crap
[09:26] <frying_fish> 7 for rwx 6 for rw I think.
[09:26] <frying_fish> or 5
[09:26] <X-ray> so I did 777
[09:26] <frying_fish> rwxrwxrwx you made it then
[09:26] <X-ray> and it screwed it up
[09:26] <frying_fish> but if its ntfs it will ignore that I think
[09:27] <nikin> any idea on how to get a canon lbp2900 leaserprinter to work with CUPS
[09:27] <nikin> ?
[09:27] <orphean> heh someone was lagging
[09:27] <frying_fish> thats no good, ask a question and disappear before an answer
[09:28] <Guest56795> so
[09:28] <holycow> nikin, check linuxprinting.org if its supported
[09:28] <frying_fish> holycow: he dropped off.
[09:28] <holycow> you should NEVER  buy canon printers tw
[09:28] <nekostar> arg
[09:28] <holycow> btw
[09:28] <holycow> oh k
[09:28] <el_cap> yeah, now I cant use it at all
[09:28] <nekostar> im having a little trouble setting up mysql and stuff
[09:29] <nekostar> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4
[09:29] <AdGol> hello, I would like to install Paltalk (voice manager from www.paltalk.com ) on my Ubuntu. Is it possible to do this?
[09:29] <el_cap> I cant even open the networking tool thing
[09:29] <nekostar> following that guide and im at the bottom of the page
[09:29] <el_cap> I cant connect to the internet as a result
[09:29] <el_cap> so if anyone has a way to make it so that it works or I'll just uninstall it
[09:30] <frying_fish> AdGol: maybe if it runs under wine
[09:30] <AdGol> yes, I tried but I couldn't do it
[09:30] <AdGol> it ran but not in 100%
[09:30] <nekostar> mysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword
[09:30] <nekostar> thats the command listed
[09:30] <Iceman241> First Ubuntu release i am ready to remove and replace with windows, completle worthless
[09:30] <nekostar> but its saying that it doesnt understand command "password"
[09:30] <nekostar> wtc
[09:31] <frying_fish> AdGol: well then no, since its not windows.
[09:31] <AdGol> ok
[09:31] <frying_fish> Iceman241: if you say so, I found it more useful than windows, infact on all 3 of my boxes I have a total of 0 windows installs.
[09:32] <Iceman241> cannot get the Nvidia driver installed, so this release is worthless
[09:32] <frying_fish> Iceman241: you do know its in the repositories right, so you can just get it from nvidia-glx
[09:32] <frying_fish> you don't have to play with the one from nvidia themselves.
[09:32] <Iceman241> frying_fish i used hoary, and breezy, but dapper sucks,
[09:32] <el_cap> So noone is going to offer to help me
[09:32] <sam_> How to you auto load gdesklets so it only loads the applets and not the whole program..kinda mean in like silent mode
[09:32] <Madpilot> Iceman241, have you checked the bug reports for you issue, or filed new ones?
[09:32] <x_O> el_cap:  with what?
[09:32] <frying_fish> Iceman241: if you say so, dapper is infinitely better than breezy though for most
[09:33] <frying_fish> why don't you actually check you aren't doing something stupid.
[09:33] <x_O> el_cap: What problem are you having?
[09:33] <el_cap> whenever i try to use sudo I get sudo: must be setuid
[09:33] <Iceman241> frying_fish not after fighting the nvidia driver for 10 hours and getting noplace
[09:33] <el_cap> or smething like that
[09:33] <el_cap> I cant open anything that requires a password
[09:33] <el_cap> I cant access things like the admin>networking thing
[09:33] <x_O> el_cap ... oh. then i have no idea. was hpoing it was something easy lol
[09:33] <el_cap> to switch my ethernet on
[09:33] <frying_fish> Iceman241: ok, but I know of most people having got it installed in like 30s
[09:33] <Madpilot> el_cap, are you logged in as the use you created during installation?
[09:34] <el_cap> yes
[09:34] <frying_fish> did you sort out your xorg.conf and such
[09:34] <el_cap> the only user
[09:34] <x_O> el_cap : Have you searched the forums for ... the error u r getting?
[09:34] <sam_> How to you auto load gdesklets so it only loads the applets and not the whole program..kinda mean in like silent mode
[09:34] <Madpilot> el_cap, in a terminal, type "groups" w/o the ""
[09:34] <Iceman241> frying_fish fought and fought it, heck breezy and hoary took mere minutes.
[09:34] <Madpilot> el_cap, and tell us if "admin" is listed on the line you get back
[09:34] <el_cap> I'll have to logout of windows first
[09:35] <el_cap> so could you till me what to do if its not like that?
[09:35] <Iceman241> frying_fish without the nvidia driver the install is worthless
[09:35] <frying_fish> el_cap: reboot into single mode, then type passwd root
[09:35] <Kanpachi> hello, i'm going to install dapper on my new computer, but i was wondering, which fileysystem should i use? i heard people saying ext3 is slow, and xfs/reiserFS is fater and better. which one is better to use?
[09:35] <frying_fish> and then you can just do "su" if sudo is broken due to networking issues
[09:35] <el_cap> single mode?
[09:35] <frying_fish> Iceman241: but the nvidia driver isn't broken, its clearly you aren't doing it correctly
[09:36] <frying_fish> a simple apt-get install nvidia-glx and then edit of your xorg.conf to have nvidia not nv would be enough
[09:36] <nocti> el_cap: what's the initial prob
[09:36] <Iceman241> frying_fish can't agree, i even gave ssh root access to someone, and they could not get it to work
[09:36] <sam_> anyone?
[09:36] <el_cap> I was just trying to put new skins for amsn in its folder
[09:37] <el_cap> I didnt have persmission to that
[09:37] <el_cap> I did what I was told to here
[09:37] <el_cap> now nothing works
[09:37] <Kanpachi> hello, i'm going to install dapper on my new computer, but i was wondering, which fileysystem should i use? i heard people saying ext3 is slow, and xfs/reiserFS is fater and better. which one is better to use?
[09:37] <frying_fish> Iceman241: card to new? either that or you probably broke something more funadmental.
[09:37] <cbx33> hey peeps, got a problem on a live cd
[09:37] <Madpilot> el_cap, what were you told to do here?
[09:37] <cbx33> I can't copy to any network resource
[09:37] <el_cap> chown something or other
[09:37] <Iceman241> frying_fish stupid onboard video, got to install to onboard, then reconfigure the nvidia drivers, then reboot, then reset bios, then reboot again
[09:37] <cafuego> Kanpachi: ext3 is well supported. This is a good thing.
[09:37] <sam_> Anyone?!
[09:37] <nocti> el_cap: and?
[09:37] <Madpilot> el_cap, chown what, exactly? sudo chown can be a dangerous command...
[09:37] <Kanpachi> well supported with what exactly?
[09:38] <el_cap> yeah
[09:38] <frying_fish> Iceman241: so maybe its not picking up the correct busid's and such
[09:38] <el_cap> I dont know
[09:38] <el_cap> because I'm in windows now
[09:38] <el_cap> so I cant check
[09:38] <cafuego> Kanpachi: Lots of _mature_ recovery tools.
[09:38] <Iceman241> yea the busid is the issue, all i can see
[09:38] <Kanpachi> oh gotcha
[09:38] <el_cap> it just says sudo: must be setuid now
[09:38] <Kanpachi> what about xfs/resierFS?
[09:38] <Kanpachi> why do people swoon over them so much?
[09:38] <frying_fish> Iceman241: then lspci, get the id and such and fix it.
[09:38] <frying_fish> simple.
[09:38] <Madpilot> el_cap, you don't remember what you used chown on?
[09:39] <holycow> because they rock
[09:39] <nocti> el_cap: did the skins came in a tarball?
[09:39] <cafuego> Kanpachi: Mostly people who don't need to restore them.
[09:39] <el_cap> yeah
[09:39] <el_cap> but the skins arnt in the folder now
[09:39] <el_cap> all I want
[09:39] <el_cap> is to be able to use it
[09:39] <holycow> Kanpachi, super stable, super reliable.
[09:39] <Iceman241> 000:01:09.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[09:39] <el_cap> I am thinking its just easier to uninstall it
[09:39] <sam_> How to you auto load gdesklets so it only loads the applets and not the whole program..kinda mean in like silent mode
[09:39] <Kanpachi> holycow, you're talking about ext3, are you?
[09:40] <nocti> el_cap: tell me how you got it in the first place as im not usng amsn
[09:40] <holycow> also each has its own tuning that makes it great for certain workloads, reiser is wicked at working with small files.  super fast
[09:40] <el_cap> because if I'm not allowed to move folders around
[09:40] <Madpilot> el_cap, you shouldn't need to use sudo just to add skins to an app
[09:40] <holycow> Kanpachi, not at all ext3 is garbage
[09:40] <el_cap> then maybe its not worth using
[09:40] <holycow> just mho :)
[09:40] <el_cap> It says I dont have permission
[09:40] <Iceman241> frying_fish that would be what ? 0000:01:09.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[09:40] <el_cap> and only owner has permission to write
[09:40] <Kanpachi> so which one are you talking about holycow? xfs or ReiserFS?
[09:40] <holycow> both
[09:41] <nocti> el_cap: how did you install the skin, tell it from the start
[09:41] <Kanpachi> oh, so i can go with both?
[09:41] <Kanpachi> neither one is better than the other?
[09:41] <cafuego> Kanpachi: See, there an example of someone without a clue ;-)
[09:41] <holycow> Kanpachi, as with anything, google both, google the good and bad of both
[09:41] <el_cap> nocti, can pm you
[09:41] <nocti> sam_: add to your ~/.xinitrc "gdesklets &"
[09:41] <el_cap> I
[09:41] <holycow> there is no magic solution
[09:41] <Kanpachi> how come cafuego?
[09:41] <nocti> el_cap: sure go
[09:41] <frying_fish> Iceman241: PCI:0:1:9
[09:41] <holycow> you need to understand the tool before implementing it
[09:41] <frying_fish> if it works similar to how mine is.
[09:42] <holycow> for me reiser is the best file system, it suits my needs. caf is just biased.
[09:42] <frying_fish> one warning, you can't use XFS for /
[09:42] <frying_fish> unless you have /boot as something else
[09:42] <frying_fish> because grub cannot read xfs, or can it now?
[09:42] <Kanpachi> oh
[09:42] <Kanpachi> can it read resierfs?
[09:42] <frying_fish> Kanpachi: yeah reiser is fine, I have mine as reiser
[09:43] <Kanpachi> oh ok
[09:43] <Kanpachi> would you recommend having a /home partition as resier?
[09:43] <holycow> yes it can
[09:43] <holycow> i've used reiser exclusively for ages
[09:43] <frying_fish> ok, last I knew it couldn't read xfs for /boot
[09:43] <Iceman241> frying_fish check the pm ?
[09:43] <frying_fish> Iceman241: if you had actually sent me one sure.
[09:43] <Kanpachi> is it really faster than ext3?
[09:44] <AbortD> anyone know if internet explorer 5 works in ie?
[09:44] <AbortD> er in wine
[09:44] <AbortD> sorry
[09:44] <frying_fish> 6 does afaik
[09:44] <nocti> sam_: add to your ~/.xinitrc "gdesklets &"
[09:44] <holycow> Kanpachi, most of those sorts of measurements depend on what andhow you are measuring
[09:44] <AbortD> afaik?
[09:44] <frying_fish> as far as I know
[09:44] <holycow> Kanpachi, read various google reports and comparisons.  very helpfull
[09:45] <Kanpachi> thanx
[09:45] <Iceman241> frying_fish your not getting im's
[09:46] <Madpilot> Iceman241, you need to be registered & identified to send IMs on Freenode
[09:46] <frying_fish> Iceman241: not from you.
[09:46] <Iceman241> im registered
[09:46] <frying_fish> I'm registered and logged in
[09:46] <Iceman241> brb
[09:46] <Madpilot> Iceman241, but you're not identified to services
[09:47] <sam_> nocti, can you explain what you mean plz
[09:47] <sam_>  sam_: add to your ~/.xinitrc "gdesklets &"
[09:48] <nocti> sam_: open a terminal, nano -w .xinitrc, add a line that says "gdesklets &"
[09:49] <Iceman241> shows you got a PM, but
[09:49] <firenx> ok, where is the best tutorial for XGL?.. theres so many
[09:49] <frying_fish> you get that?
[09:49] <Iceman241> !pastebin
[09:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:50] <thoreauputic> nocti: ~/.xinitrc is only read if you atartx from a tty - the Debian equivalent would be ~/.xsession, and that is only read if you select the system default session from gdm
[09:50] <thoreauputic> *startx
[09:51] <nocti> thoreauputic: ah yes, default gnome here
[09:51] <thoreauputic> thyen .xsession, not .xinitrc
[09:51] <thoreauputic> and as I said, only if you select the default in sessions
[09:53] <thoreauputic> unless you point /usr/share/xsessions/foo.desktop at the script
[09:54] <Iceman241> anyone here a wiz at the nvidia driver and ssh access, that can get this thing to work.
[09:55] <thoreauputic> nocti: for gnome, better to put start up commands in ~/.gnomerc
[09:55] <nocti> thoreauputic: i dont have .xsession only .xsession-errors
[09:56] <thoreauputic> nocti: of course - the file needs to be created :)
[09:56] <Iceman241> anyone willing to ssh install the nvidia drivers ? please, i have tried for over 10 hours
[09:56] <nocti> :)
[09:56] <thoreauputic> nocti: but see my comment about ~/.gnomerc
[09:56] <thoreauputic> which also won't exist unless you make it :)
[09:56] <nocti> thoreauputic: fluxbox
[09:56] <nocti> i do it from .fluxbox/startup
[09:57] <thoreauputic> nocti: ah you have taste :)
[09:57] <thoreauputic> yep fair enough
[09:57] <nocti> thoreauputic: nope. just old. eye candy hurts my eyes
[09:57] <thoreauputic> heheh - I like fluxbox too :)
[09:57] <Jebho> how do you change folder permissions if they are owned by root (how do you 'become' root in the folders gui)
[09:58] <nocti> thoreauputic: yep, old farts like us usually do :)
[09:58] <thoreauputic> Jebho: a better question would be based on what you are actually trying to do :)
[09:58] <thoreauputic> nocti: :)
[09:58] <Jebho> well a folder i have on a drive is owned by root
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Jebho: and you want to do what?
[09:59] <Jebho> i am an administrator user, but seeing how this is only my computer, i'd like to be able to change permissions to that folder
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Jebho: and which "folder" ?
[10:00] <kendals> Hey guys- just want to give a shout out to tseliot who fixed my woes relating to failure of X Server :P
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Jebho: permissions are there for good reasons in *nix
[10:00] <Jebho> its a folder on my data partition - accessible from windows and ubuntu that contains info i dont want others without the password to be able to change
[10:01] <Jebho> well, or read
[10:01] <nocti> Jebho: edit /etc/fstab uid=nnn,gid=nnn
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Jebho: normally you would create a group, add yourself to it, and set permissions so that only that group can read it
[10:02] <Jebho> ok
[10:02] <nocti> Jebho: you can chmod it too
[10:02] <nocti> Jebho: and chown
[10:02] <Jebho> yeah i know that stuff, the stuff was just disabled under graphical file browser view
[10:02] <Jebho> because it was owned by root
[10:03] <Jebho> and not the user i am under
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Jebho: if you must, you can run  gksudo nautilus - but be *very* careful if you do
[10:04] <nocti> Jebho: why gui? use the terminal
[10:04] <nocti> Jebho: you can inaverdently drag something under a rooted nautilus and that's it
[10:04] <Jebho> legacy windows guy :(
[10:04] <thoreauputic> nocti: i agree - just telling him it was possible
[10:05] <thoreauputic> nocti: hence my dire warning :)
[10:05] <Jebho> but dont worry, once i get my wireless card working
[10:05] <Jebho> bye bye xp
[10:05] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:06] <nocti> thoreauputic: :)
[10:07] <Jebho> problem with the terminal...not afriad of it, just unfamiliar with commands
[10:07] <Jebho> lack of experience
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Jebho:  http://tuxfiles.org  , and man intro
[10:08] <X-ray> damn I lost connection :)
[10:08] <X-ray> orphean, I'm trying that tutorial right now...
[10:08] <nocti> Jebho: there are things you can do on a terminal that you can't do via a right click. and what you're planning of doing (umask of a dir) is usually done best in a term
[10:08] <X-ray> so basicly what it does is define a new kind of file system and then using it?
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Jebho: also  sudo apt-get install apt-howto && apt-howto  :)
[10:09] <babyubuntu> hi
[10:09] <emesgee> Hey
[10:09] <Jebho> yeah i know this
[10:10] <babyubuntu> I have winxp & ubuntu on my harddisk, I want to reinstall my winxp. Will my ubuntu lost?
[10:10] <nocti> Jebho: i usually reserve arranging pr0n using a filemanager, but that's just me
[10:10] <emesgee> I have a bad problem with apt-get >_<
[10:10] <emesgee> babyubuntu: depends if they are on different partitions
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> babyubuntu: no, but you'll have to reinstall grub.
[10:10] <Jebho> nocti:  ha, no its only me using my cpu
[10:11] <Jebho> nocti:  its the financial stuff i'm worried about
[10:11] <CVirus> how can I use apt-get to install local .deb packages ?
[10:11] <babyubuntu> how do i reinstall grub with affecting my existing ubuntu?
[10:11] <nocti> Jebho: well goodluck then
[10:11] <Jebho> nocti:  but thanks for the assumption
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[10:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:11] <emesgee> CVirus: dpkg
[10:11] <CVirus> emesgee: what about deps ?
[10:12] <emesgee> dep? not sure
[10:12] <thoreauputic> CVirus: you don't - you use  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/nameofdeb
[10:12] <Jebho> nocti:  i had a buddy with some ident theft probs and that stuff totally freaks me out
[10:12] <babyubuntu> so if I reinstall my winxp and I reinstall grub, the existing ubuntu will be the same? I'm I right?
[10:12] <CVirus> thoreauputic: deps ?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> CVirus: although in Dapper you can now just click on it and gdebi will run
[10:12] <CVirus> thoreauputic: Kubuntu here
[10:12] <thoreauputic> CVirus: what is this package?
[10:13] <CVirus> thoreauputic: democracyplayer
[10:13] <thoreauputic> CVirus: should install OK with dpkg I think
[10:13] <CVirus> thoreauputic: will you tell me how to resolve deps for a local package ?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> CVirus: if not the deps are fairly straightforward
[10:14] <thoreauputic> CVirus: dpkg will tell you what is missing
[10:14] <BHSPitLappy> I need to turn off using the ALT key to move a window, hopefully just for a specific window/program. it's interfering with a game.
[10:14] <thoreauputic> if anything
[10:14] <emesgee> apt-get keeps saying it needs to reinstall a package but it can't find an archive for it. I installed the package with apt-get. how can I fix this? its not letting me use apt-get at all
[10:14] <CVirus> thoreauputic: I know it will .. I dont want to resolve them manually
[10:14] <emesgee> *I installed this package with dpkg sry
[10:14] <iceman> fudge, after 10 freaking hours and never getting the Nvidia drive, back to windows forget dapper
[10:15] <thoreauputic> CVirus: well, democracyplayer is outside the repos - surely the web page tells you what it depends on?
[10:15] <CVirus> thoreauputic: that doesnt answer my question
[10:15] <iceman> Ill try an install on my dell hypertheading system this compaq sucks
[10:15] <CVirus> thoreauputic: how can I resolve the deps automaticaly for a local package
[10:15] <thoreauputic> CVirus: it isn't magic - you can't wave a wand and have apt do stuff it isn't designed to do
[10:16] <CVirus> thoreauputic: now that answers my question :-)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> heh
[10:16] <Jebho> i don't know if its me or the bottle of wine i had tonight, but does anyone else feel stupid playing connect4 against the os
[10:17] <emesgee> can someone please help me :c
[10:17] <martinz> just found a bug in nautilus?/ubuntu?/fat32 system?
[10:17] <martinz> not sure where it comes from, still found a bug
[10:17] <emesgee> martinz: elaborate
[10:18] <martinz> when I create a folder called "ACDC" (just like that and only that in all uppercase) on a fat32 partition in nautilus, then close nautilus and go back, the folder name is then all lower case... just occurs with "ACDC" though that is the funny thing
[10:19] <emesgee> haha...
[10:19] <martinz> where to put the "bug"?
[10:20] <emesgee> reminds me of the notepad.exe bug that messes up your text if you type something like "this app can break" "bush hid the facts" etc
[10:20] <duckdown> Can someone tell me how I can use my vga.pcf.gz (the ANSI font) in gnome-terminal ?
[10:20] <nocti> martinz: yep, that's a bug
[10:20] <CVirus> thoreauputic: to do what I wanted to do I had to put the .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives and then apt-get install it
[10:20] <martinz> nocti: where shall I send it to / file it?
[10:20] <nocti> martinz: try creating a folder using a terminal
[10:21] <thoreauputic> CVirus: yes, that sometimes works
[10:21] <Madpilot> martinz: bugs.ubuntu.com - search first
[10:21] <thoreauputic> CVirus: but not necessarily :)
[10:21] <nocti> martinz: just hide that "bug" for the moment. :D
[10:22] <emesgee> meanwhile, is there any way I can like master reset apt-get
[10:22] <Jebho> martinz:  thats not just for acds
[10:22] <Jebho> acdc*
[10:22] <emesgee> its stuck on this rogue package thats not connected to any archive
[10:22] <thoreauputic> CVirus: apt still needs to know where the deps are so if one of them isn't in the repos you are out of luck
[10:22] <nUmbskuLL_f> eLo
[10:22] <Jebho> its all caps named folders
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[10:23] <CVirus> thoreauputic: exactly
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> got a strange issue here (actually, my friend does), here's the log:
[10:23] <emesgee> apparently I have some rare obscure bug that nobody knows how to fix >_<
[10:23] <martinz> ok, will "hide" the bug ;)
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> http://wklej.org/id/14b07dd695
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> and have no idea what to do with that
[10:24] <kindor> hello
[10:24] <emesgee> hi
[10:25] <kindor> what lightweight program can i use to view (only view) word and excel documents in ubuntu? i cannot use openoffice because its to heavy
[10:25] <brendonjt> hi ya all  edgy  looks cool
[10:26] <FirstStrike> edgy isn't all that 'edgy' in my opinion :P
[10:26] <brendonjt> i like it , iit is cool
[10:26] <nocti> kindor: abiword
[10:26] <kindor> thanks nocti
[10:26] <brendonjt> the new xchat is good has spell checker in it
[10:27] <Jebho> anyone else here use gaim for irc?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> kindor: that does doc - for excel you need gnumeric i think
[10:27] <emesgee> I used mIRC on WINE
[10:28] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[10:28] <emesgee> mIRC on WINE was the ugliest thing ever
[10:28] <emesgee> but it ran great, autologging was the reason I used it
[10:28] <nocti> thoreauputic: i use cat for .xls
[10:29] <brendonjt> windows apps under wine are yuk
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> windows apps are yuk
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> wine has nothing to do with it :)
[10:29] <Jebho> well im out for the night, i really appreciate all your help guys, especially you thoreauputic
[10:29] <emesgee> except Maya
[10:29] <thoreauputic> nocti: and you program the machine with plugs and cables, right ? *g*
[10:30] <Jebho> you guys are good at putting up with noobies
[10:30] <thoreauputic> Jebho: you're welcome - see you around :)
[10:30] <usuario> bui9gnbaev5
[10:30] <emesgee> they're not very good at answering my question :c
[10:30] <usuario> bjmbryh
[10:30] <WinterWeaver> hey everyone ^_^
[10:30] <usuario> brevb
[10:30] <nocti> thoreauputic: yep. im a strange one. no wonder i can't do much work around here
[10:30] <brendonjt> winterweaver: kia ora welcome
[10:30] <shinobi2> i am trying to do a diff, problem is one file has ^M as return key when i do 'cat -v file.txt'  how can i fix the ^M on my file.txt?
[10:30] <FirstStrike> and also looks and runs much better than mIRC
[10:30] <WinterWeaver> I have a question, which I'm sure you guys have heard a lot....
[10:31] <martinz> hi, by accident, I deleted my ACDC folder (had one album underneath)... is it possible to restore it easily (FAT32)?
[10:31] <martinz> didn't really wipe it
[10:31] <nocti> rysiek|pl: windows apps are yuk? people like you want me to take up arms
[10:31] <martinz> just "normal" delete
[10:31] <napoleon1> I have a question regarding easyubuntu. i installed it (successfully) the other day with nvidia and multimedia codecs ticked. This was on a system with 2.6.15*-386. Now that I'm using the 2.6.15*686 kernel instead, I'm unable to use the nvidia driver (different kernel), and I'm unable to reinstall it via easyubuntu (greyed box.) Is there documentation for easyubuntu on manual installation (without frontend) of packages?
[10:31] <WinterWeaver> I don't have write permission on my NTFS partition (I'm running a dual boot)
[10:31] <Healot> !ntfs
[10:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:31] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: I think you need to read the wiki nvidia howto
[10:32] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[10:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:32] <FirstStrike> !fuse > WinterWeaver
[10:32] <Kitsune-Gaki> good morning ^^
[10:32] <thoreauputic> !ntfs-3g
[10:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[10:32] <emesgee> !apt-get
[10:32] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:32] <usuario> nb vnb
[10:32] <usuario>  odna dmoegvr
[10:33] <usuario> bfbfpbdggb
[10:33] <Kitsune-Gaki> Is it normal that I don't have a /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant on a freshly installed Ubuntu 6.06 O.o
[10:33] <napoleon1> thoreauputic: I'd like to use the approach that easyubuntu uses, but i can't find documentation on it. I've manually installed nvidia drivers on my etch system in the past (successfully,) but I'm curious as to how it's done with easyubuntu
[10:33] <WinterWeaver> thanks
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> nocti: yes, windows apps are yuk.
[10:33] <hadi> hi all
[10:34] <hadi> whats 'a mean LTS (ubuntu 6.06 LTS)?
[10:34] <Healot> hey
[10:34] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: ah, well I guess you need to ask the easyubuntu devs - nalioth is one I think, or look on their page
[10:34] <brendonjt> windows is yuk, had to work on a machine today  but i have convinced the person in a week to install ubuntu
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> nocti: remember that "yuk" refers to a subjective opinion, not an objective criterion :)
[10:34] <Healot> no bashing here, btw, please discuss linux/ubuntu stuff
[10:34] <martinz> hadi: long term support
[10:34] <kindor> is there something wrong with the package servers?
[10:34] <napoleon1> nalioth: I have a question regarding easyubuntu. i installed it (successfully) the other day with nvidia and multimedia codecs ticked. This was on a system with 2.6.15*-386. Now that I'm using the 2.6.15*686 kernel instead, I'm unable to use the nvidia driver (different kernel), and I'm unable to reinstall it via easyubuntu (greyed box.) Is there documentation for easyubuntu on manual installation (without frontend) of pac
[10:34] <napoleon1> kages?
[10:34] <napoleon1> thoreauputic: thanks :)
[10:34] <hadi> martinz: great :)
[10:35] <kindor> it keeps on "97% [7 Packages bzip2 0] bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file."
[10:35] <nocti> rysiek|pl: yes. and that's coming from a windows guy who just switched a week ago just for the simple reason that he can tell the world he uses nix. you embarass the community to hell.
[10:35] <RichEd> greetz all
[10:35] <epitaf-laptop> When I try to run a game I get "./Rollemup: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Any ideas?
[10:35] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: oh, there's a #easyubuntu too IIRC
[10:35] <RichEd> user request: Ubuntu adaptive capacity for blind and visually and impaired ... pointers please anyone ??
[10:35] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: yup
[10:35] <gary> Has anyone used ie4linux and wine to get IE working in ubuntu?
[10:36] <napoleon1> thoreauputic: i was in there the other night fielding the same question, but the cricket chirps are strong in that channel
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> nocti: why thank you, I have switched 3.5 years ago to linux - that is irrelevant IMHO
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> nocti: I mean: the time one "switched".
[10:36] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: heheh - yes well , time zones maybe
[10:36] <nocti> rysiek|pl: im sure you did.
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> whatever
[10:37] <emesgee> everyone: how do I reset apt-get
[10:38] <emesgee> arghmin
[10:38] <emesgee> can someone PLEASE at least give me a link, something, I'm stuck -_-
[10:39] <emesgee> apt-get won't work until it reinstalls this package, a package that isn't in any archive, that I want gone
[10:39] <Healot> apt-get clean
[10:39] <emesgee> hrm
[10:39] <emesgee> didn't work :c
[10:39] <napoleon1> emesgee: aptitude purge <package>
[10:40] <napoleon1> emesgee: or mark for purgation (?) while using the gui
[10:40] <napoleon1> emesgee: aptitude should then list broken dependencies that you can resolve
[10:40] <emesgee> hrm argh
[10:40] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: is that under "purgatory" in the synaptic GUI ? *g*
[10:40] <emesgee> thanks but apt-get hates me
[10:40] <emesgee> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:41] <napoleon1> thoreauputic: (=
[10:42] <Rico> quick question: is there any clipboard app i can download, so i don't have to have the source of the copy open to paste something?
[10:42] <Rico> i.e. you copy a url in firefox, close it, go to paste it somewhere else - nothing.
[10:42] <emesgee> gnome-clipboard
[10:42] <Rico> cheers
[10:42] <emesgee> i think
[10:43] <Rico> !gnome-clipboard
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-clipboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <emesgee> here you go
[10:43] <emesgee> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Clipboard_Daemon_for_GNOME
[10:43] <Rico> thanks
[10:43] <emesgee> np
[10:44] <borup> I cannot get my Dell 2407WFP monitor to enter 1900x1200
[10:44] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[10:44] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:44] <Rico> hmm, it doesn't seem to work.
[10:45] <emesgee> does it say "Abort"
[10:45] <borup> I've tried everything FixVideoResolutionHowto except 855resolution which doesn't seem to exist
[10:45] <emesgee> if so then you have to do each line at a time, because when it asks for [Y/n]  you're also copying the next line :P
[10:45] <emesgee> (during install)
[10:46] <DennyCrane> I just yanked the crappy broadcom minipci out of my laptop and replaced it with a more linux friendly ipw2200bg, is there anything on the ubuntu side I should do to make everything play nicely? its working at the moment anyway, im just thinking house-keeping wise
[10:46] <Rico> emesgee: if you're talking to me, the daemon is running, it just doesn't work
[10:46] <emesgee> oh
[10:46] <thoreauputic> borup: I would ask on the ubuntu-users mailing list - someone has probably done it
[10:46] <Rico> but thanks anyway
[10:46] <thoreauputic> borup: you might have to get out your trusty editor
[10:46] <emesgee> tis okay, I'm just bored trying to get my stupid problem to be fixed >:3
[10:46] <jgonzalez> hi
[10:47] <nocti> emesgee: did you just dpkg jedit?
[10:47] <sanso> #ubuntu-dev
[10:47] <emesgee> yeah
[10:47] <sanso> whoops. sorry
[10:47] <nocti> emesgee: so what's broke?
[10:47] <borup> thoreauputic: I did - HorizSync and VertRefresh made no difference
[10:47] <melon> ok - new problem.. it appears that all my problems revolve around the dvd burner not being mounted.. it's through usb.. is this something that can be done automatically?
[10:47] <jgonzalez> when i use "print to file" in openoffice from ubuntu dapper, it says me that "can't print", i have all ps utils installed, what could happen ? i have the same problem in 5 ubuntus
[10:47] <emesgee> nocti: when I use apt-get it says it needs to reinstall Jedit but it can't find the archive for it
[10:48] <thoreauputic> borup: hmmm - seriously, sign up for the list - it's very high traffic and you will probably get an answer
[10:48] <CVirus> is it safe to rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg ?
[10:48] <emesgee> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:48] <thoreauputic> CVirus: no
[10:48] <emesgee> CVirus: lol
[10:48] <nocti> emesgee: maybe you have to update your repositories and add something that points to jedit's deb file
[10:48] <X-ray> hey guys
[10:48] <eyequeue> CVirus, mo more so than / :)
[10:48] <X-ray> I got a issue with amaroK, it doesn't play my mp3 files
[10:48] <emesgee> nocti: okay... but when I tried to remove it it said it was in very bad shape
[10:49] <CVirus> eyequeue: LOL
[10:49] <thoreauputic> X-ray: have you installed libxine-extracodecs  ?
[10:49] <X-ray> using the xine engine it doesn't work :(
[10:49] <X-ray> dno
[10:49] <thoreauputic> X-ray: if not, do so
[10:49] <nocti> emesgee: hehe. that's apt for you :) try dpkg -r?
[10:49] <X-ray> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs???
[10:49] <sanso> when booting (edgy), my system says it can't find a swap space signature. I have manually mkswap'ed, tried using UUID="", LABEL="" and /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab, but to no avail. - Any hints?
[10:49] <eyequeue> CVirus, glad you took it in the spirit intended :)
[10:49] <thoreauputic> X-ray: yes
[10:50] <X-ray> ok
[10:50] <X-ray> thx
[10:50] <eyequeue> sanso, #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[10:50] <emesgee>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[10:50] <emesgee>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:50] <sanso> eyequeue, cheers, I'll go there.
[10:50] <thoreauputic> X-ray: without the multiple question marks *g*
[10:50] <emesgee> :c
[10:50] <nocti> emesgee: is that apt or dpkg talking?
[10:50] <opexoc> Can anybody tell me if all source code of ubuntu is available on internet?
[10:50] <emesgee> nocti: dpkg
[10:50] <eyequeue> emesgee, i hate that error
[10:50] <emesgee> opexoc: yes
[10:50] <nocti> emesgee: hmm
[10:51] <eyequeue> emesgee, expectg a royal pain, manually rm'ing files, but i'll give a tiny hint
[10:51] <eyequeue> emesgee, sometimes "sudo apt-get --reinstall install foo" is handy, once or twice
[10:52] <X-ray> thoreauputic, ???
[10:52] <thoreauputic> X-ray: !!!
[10:52] <X-ray> what question marks
[10:52] <X-ray> ?
[10:52] <X-ray> LOL
[10:53] <X-ray> either way I can't find the package
[10:53] <thoreauputic> X-ray:  >> from before  X-ray sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs???
[10:53] <nocti> emesgee: is jre plugin for firefox installed?
[10:53] <emesgee> nocti: yes
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !libxine-extracodecs
[10:53] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[10:53] <thoreauputic> X-ray: you need to enable multiverse
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !repos
[10:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:53] <X-ray> thoreauputic: ok
[10:54] <nocti> emesgee: you're fucked
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !language
[10:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:54] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:54] <emesgee> nocti: I thought so
[10:54] <eyequeue> !language > nocti
[10:54] <opexoc> hm... I am wondering if some who has some piece of GPL free sofware ( for example linux kernel ) and add to this software some own new software ( and it is not a part of this GPL software ) have to show all source code of this GPL softaware and this his own software ( Does this new own software is on GPL licence too? )?
[10:54] <X-ray> thoreauputic: how do I enable it?
[10:54] <nocti> emesgee: google around. im leaving. goodluck
[10:54] <emesgee> nocti: I just reinstalled ubuntu anyway so its no biggie I just wanted to solve the problem for if it ever happened again
[10:55] <eyequeue> emesgee, it's not that desparate, though not good either
[10:55] <thoreauputic> X-ray: do you know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:55] <X-ray> yes I do
[10:55] <X-ray> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <nocti> emesgee: there's a howto in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_jedit
[10:55] <thoreauputic> X-ray: easiest way is to add the word at the end of your universe lines
[10:56] <thoreauputic> with a space of course before it
[10:56] <emesgee> nocti: yeah thats what I used :3
[10:56] <X-ray> just add " multiverse" without quotes?
[10:56] <nocti> emesgee: in case you'll reinstall later
[10:56] <X-ray> k
[10:56] <thoreauputic> X-ray: yes, to each universe line
[10:56] <nocti> emesgee: haha, you're indeed fscked :D
[10:56] <emesgee> nocti: lol
[10:56] <Khobar> hello
[10:56] <X-ray> define universe? LOL
[10:56] <e-type> hi all
[10:56] <_Nameeater> opeqoc: you might want to try asking in somewhere like #gnu its not really Ubuntu related, or you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:56] <_Nameeater> arg.
[10:57] <_Nameeater> opexoc: you have a strange name and that last message was for you ;)
[10:57] <thoreauputic> X-ray: heh - try going to System- Admin - Software Properties  instead
[10:57] <thoreauputic> X-ray: and enable everything there
[10:57] <Khobar> can somoen help me with a little thing?
[10:57] <opexoc> _Nameeater: ok thx:)
[10:58] <Khobar> ubuntu automaticly changes my dns every couple seconds :/
[10:58] <WinterWeaver> O.o
[10:58] <Khobar> i have to have dns like this ( operator gave me those ) : 192.168.1.1
[10:58] <Khobar> and ubuntu changes me it to 192.168.0.2 :/
[10:58] <Jack_Frost_esq> Hi can anyone help my setup dual monitors on dapper drake
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Khobar: more likely your router is overwriting it
[10:58] <Khobar> i tried to change it mannually in etc/resolv.conf
[10:59] <ompaul> Khobar, your router is advertising 0.2
[10:59] <mimo> Hi, I installed edgy in a chroot environment and now I want to boot from it instead of my dapper system, any hint on how shall I configure grub to do this?
[10:59] <Vanique> is there any master of disaster who would like to solve my f**king big problem ? ;/
[10:59] <Khobar> and even sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf
[10:59] <Khobar> well the point is ...operator gave me some IP's gateways etc. on winxp it works fine
[11:00] <eyequeue> Vanique, perhaps repeat it?
[11:00] <ompaul> Khobar, did you read what you were told? if you do ifconfig the odds are you will see your IP is 192.168.0.?
[11:00] <Chandu> hi , can anyone tell about ubuntu package versioning policy -- suppose if it is 1.1.15 what does it mean
[11:00] <e-type> Jack_Frost_esq: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[11:00] <ompaul> Khobar, the IPs you qoute are not routable
[11:01] <Khobar> true I set my IP to 192.168.0.1 to allow roommates to connect to intrenet in near future
[11:01] <Jack_Frost_esq> kewl thanks e-type
[11:01] <ompaul> Khobar, i.e. not on the internet they are for NAT (Network address translation)
[11:01] <napoleon1> thoreauputic: i sorted it out :) I had to install the appropriate restricted-drivers package for the new kernel (via aptitude install linux-686)
[11:01] <Vanique> eyequeue: http://wklej.org/id/49a6cb5755    <--- just take a look at this log  :/
[11:01] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: aha !
[11:01] <thoreauputic> napoleon1: I should have thought of that :(
[11:02] <Khobar> so what shall I do?
[11:02] <eyequeue> Vanique, i doubt this is it, but do this for me (non-destructive)
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Khobar: you are trying to be on a different subnet - won't work without routing it
[11:03] <Vanique> eyequeue: pardon ?
[11:03] <eyequeue> Vanique, df -h (don't paste it here)
[11:03] <Vanique> okay
[11:03] <Vanique> :)
[11:03] <eyequeue> Vanique, is anything at 100%?
[11:03] <Khobar> so....what shall i do...I'm really confused
[11:03] <eyequeue> Vanique, that's all that i can think of, and i don't think it's the issue, but worth asking
[11:04] <Vanique> but im not sure if i got what you want me to do
[11:04] <FirstStrike> !pastebin > Vanique
[11:04] <Vanique> ah ok
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Khobar: Ubuntu should set up your networking on install using dhcp - if you can reach the Internet leave it alone
[11:05] <Khobar> well the point is , I managed to connect without problem to internet using radio internet ( as on winxp)
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Khobar: if you need to route to a different subnet that's a whole topic in itself - probably not something anyone here will have time to explain
[11:05] <Khobar> the problem is ubuntu changes my dns
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Khobar: no, ubuntu doesn't chnage your DNS - your router most likely is changing it
[11:06] <Khobar> emm...but I don't have any router....
[11:07] <Khobar> or you mean router from my ISP ?
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Khobar: Ubuntu doesn't just random;y change your dns
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Khobar: probably your ISp then,, yes
[11:07] <Khobar> well true but it changes stubornly to 192.168.0.1
[11:07] <Khobar> and the router adres is 192.168.1.1
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Khobar: are you on cable or dsl or what?
[11:07] <Khobar> dsl -> radio -> me
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Khobar: did you set up Ubuntu on this network or somewhere else ?
[11:08] <axa-axa> I have Ubuntu on my machine, and I wanted to see what KDE now looks like, so I've installed kubuntu-desktop. Later I've uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, but boot usplash logo (Kubuntu) still stayed as default. How can I revert usplash picture to originial Ubuntu and not Kubuntu?
[11:08] <Chandu> eyequeue: May I know about Ubuntu's package versioning policy ,
[11:08] <eyequeue> Chandu, you certainly may :)  i'm not sure i'm the one to tell you, but let me see if i can find a good url
[11:09] <Khobar> set up? can you explain ..didn't understand
[11:09] <Chandu> eyequeue: I have seen some packges with "UBUNTU" postfixed and If take "ubiquity" its version if "1.1.15" , what does this 1.1.15 mens ..
[11:10] <eyequeue> Chandu, first may i ask what you wanted to know about, specifically?
[11:10] <thoreauputic> axa-axa:  sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:10] <eyequeue> Chandu, ah, that would be the upstream version number, usually
[11:10] <thoreauputic> Khobar: what is your first language
[11:10] <thoreauputic> ?
[11:10] <thoreauputic> !pl
[11:10] <Khobar> polish
[11:10] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:11] <thoreauputic> there :)
[11:11] <Khobar> ok thx ..
[11:11] <eyequeue> Chandu, first major release, first significant upgrade to that, fifteenth minor release of that
[11:11] <axa-axa> thoreauputic: It reports: There is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so
[11:11] <axa-axa> (/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so). Nothing to configure.
[11:11] <X-ray> lol
[11:11] <eyequeue> Chandu, that may be a ubuntu-only pacakge, so it's not really "upstream" in that case of course
[11:11] <thoreauputic> axa-axa: OK then you haven't got the original for some reason - do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[11:11] <X-ray> thoreauputic it still don't work
[11:11] <eyequeue> !info ubuquity
[11:11] <ubotu> Package ubuquity does not exist in any distro I know
[11:12] <eyequeue> !info ubiquity
[11:12] <ubotu> ubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.17 (dapper), package size 1385 kB, installed size 5640 kB
[11:12] <thoreauputic> X-ray: refresh my memory - is this about libxine-extracodecs ?
[11:12] <eyequeue> !info ubiquity edgy
[11:12] <ubotu> ubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.15 (edgy), package size 1551 kB, installed size 6040 kB
[11:12] <eyequeue> Chandu, it also tells me you're looking at edgy, not dapper ;-)
[11:12] <axa-axa> thoreauputic: Yes, I do, should I try to uninstall it and then install again?
[11:13] <X-ray> thoreauputic,  yes it is
[11:14] <thoreauputic> axa-axa: hmmm - odd - if you have it then you should have the ubuntu usplash artwork - try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[11:14] <thoreauputic> X-ray: have you read the restricted formats wiki page?
[11:14] <thoreauputic> !restricted > X-ray
[11:14] <X-ray> thoreauputic, do i?
[11:14] <thoreauputic> ?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> X-ray: have a look at the page ubotu sent you in pm
[11:15] <X-ray> lol ok
[11:15] <axa-axa> thoreauputic: Among other things: Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[11:15] <thoreauputic> X-ray: hmm - you haven't rehistered with nickserv, have you ?
[11:16] <thoreauputic> axa-axa: yes it says that on my system too - but it seems to find it anyway - I thought it might help. You won't know until you reboot unfortunately - although you can try re-doing the update-alternatives thing
[11:17] <speedy> how can I have my mail server (A) to queue and forward emails for mail server (B)?
[11:17] <axa-axa> thoreauputic: yes, thanks for your effort, bye.
[11:18] <Chandu> eyequeue: Where can I get more info regarding this upstream , major release , significant upgrade and minor release
[11:18] <chamo> wrong channel
[11:19] <Chandu> eyequeue: I want to know this , because I am conmpiling some package , I want to append my own release to that .. I want to know how to do that ,what policy I need to follow
[11:19] <eyequeue> Chandu, well, that part came from experience with linux apps, and the kernel :)  "experience" is a lousy answer, i know :)
[11:19] <eyequeue> !info openoffice.org
[11:19] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB (Only available for amd64 ia64)
[11:19] <eyequeue> Chandu, i'll use openoffice.org as an example
[11:20] <Chandu> eyequeue:ok
[11:20] <eyequeue> Chandu, version "2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1"
[11:20] <X-ray> thoreauputic, not regged with nickserv.... why?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> X-ray: it's a good idea to be registered
[11:20] <eyequeue> Chandu, 2.0.2 is the upstream, with the explanation i gave earlier as format
[11:20] <X-ray> meh, ppl may know that I'm from belgium
[11:20] <Chandu> eyequeue:ok
[11:21] <eyequeue> Chandu, the part following the dash is the debian version (this all is based on debian packaging, ubuntu is)
[11:21] <thoreauputic> X-ray: in certain situations ( bot attacks etc) you will get dumped to another holding channel, for example
[11:21] <eyequeue> Chandu, but ubuntu breaks that down, as debian is also our upstream
[11:21] <X-ray> nick _X-ray_
[11:21] <_X-ray_> lol
[11:21] <Chandu> eyequeue:ok
[11:22] <eyequeue> Chandu, 2.0.2-2 would be the second debian release of the upstream's 2.0.2 package
[11:22] <eyequeue> Chandu, simple so far, but then ubuntu adds the "ubuntu* part to it :)
[11:22] <_X-ray_> thoreauputic, how do I get a vhost here?
[11:22] <Chandu> eyequeue:ok
[11:23] <eyequeue> Chandu, 2.0.2-2ubuntu12, would be the 12th ubuntu release of that debian-second-release
[11:23] <^Mephisto^> why is edgy using UUID's in /etc/fstab and menu.lst now?
[11:23] <eyequeue> Chandu, 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1, a rare form, but it's got everything :)  is the first security team release of that twelth release :)
[11:24] <Chandu> eyequeue:does it mean ubnutu has compiled that package for 12 times
[11:24] <thoreauputic> _X-ray_: http://freenode.net/   << read all about it
[11:24] <eyequeue> ^Mephisto^, #ubuntu+1 for edgy, but the quick answer, compatibility with LVM/RAID
[11:24] <eyequeue> Chandu, yes, i would guess ubuntu had an intensive period of development on it, after debian had a release
[11:25] <kindor> my apt is giving weird bzip2 errors (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23200) what can this be?
[11:25] <eyequeue> Chandu, one more format, IF it said this
[11:25] <^Mephisto^> any way to get rid of it, so that it doesnt put it back all the time? i like /dev/hdaX better. or should i ask this in #ubuntu+1?
[11:26] <eyequeue> Chandu, 2.0.3-0ubuntu1 ... first ubuntu release of upstream version 2.0.3, but dedian hasn't released any yet, so it's all the work of the ubuntu maintainer
[11:26] <Chandu> eyequeue: what is that IF
[11:26] <MNKentB> I have a problem sending mail.
[11:26] <MNKentB> With attachments.
[11:26] <eyequeue> Chandu, i don't know that OOo even has a 2.0.3 upstream, so that's purely hypothetical
[11:27] <eyequeue> Chandu, but you get the idea? see the format?
[11:27] <eyequeue> MNKentB, someone will help petter if they know what MUA you use, etc
[11:28] <MNKentB> MUA?
[11:28] <Chandu> eyequeue: Yaa I got some idea, but I ahve one more doubt , these are the versions for upstream or debian release , suppose a package is create4d by ubuntu then what will be the version
[11:28] <eyequeue> MNKentB, what program, what method, what server perhaps
[11:28] <_X-ray_> thoreauputic, I need to update... 1155 files or so
[11:28] <eyequeue> Chandu, well, there's really no "upstream" in that case, so ubuntu becomes the upstream
[11:28] <_X-ray_> perhaps it will work afterwards...
[11:28] <eyequeue> !info ubiquity
[11:28] <ubotu> ubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.17 (dapper), package size 1385 kB, installed size 5640 kB
[11:28] <MNKentB> I am using Ubuntu 6.06 and I am sending with Thunderbird.
[11:29] <Chandu> eyequeue: ok , then what will be the versioning format
[11:29] <MNKentB> It worked fine under fedora.
[11:29] <eyequeue> Chandu, ubuquity is an example, so 1.0.17 gets no "after the dash" meaning no "debian (ubuntu revision"
[11:30] <eyequeue> Chandu, see ubotu above there btw ^^
[11:30] <ompaul> MNKentB, thunderbird works for me ;-) so the question must be have you got your settings correct
[11:30] <Chandu> eyequeue: ok
[11:30] <MNKentB> ompaul.
[11:30] <ompaul> MNKentB, I have used thunderbird on the last three versions of Ubuntu
[11:30] <MNKentB> Cool.
[11:31] <eyequeue> Chandu, sadly, i know most of this from "experience" rather than a web page also, but i think you know it now too :)  i also think if any web page exists it would be at debian.org, since it's their versioning that ubuntu just added to the end of heheheh
[11:31] <Chandu> eyequeue: suppose I ahve created a package and I have compiled it for the first time .. so it will be my upstream package ..what version I can give
[11:31] <Paladine> anyone running a tv cardin ubuntu?
[11:31] <eyequeue> Chandu, 1.0.0 is common
[11:31] <MNKentB> ompaul, which settings?  It sends small emails fine, but then hangs when I send an attachment.
[11:32] <MattyMayhem> your firewall is letting that file extention out..right?
[11:32] <eyequeue> Chandu, say you then fix something small, like a typo in the man page, 1.0.1
[11:32] <Chandu> eyequeue: for the next builds which one I need to increase
[11:32] <ompaul> MNKentB, what size of attachement?
[11:32] <bulent> hey people i'm a new ubuntu user... but i have some problems... in the live edition it identified my wireless card... which i don't even know it's brand... thus ubuntu does not support turkish characters.... is there anyone who can help me ?
[11:32] <eyequeue> Chandu, a bigger change would be 1.1
[11:32] <MNKentB> ompaul, only about 90k or so.  A pdf file.
[11:33] <eyequeue> Chandu, and something that makes old data files incompatible (say you were writing a word processor or something) would be 2.x
[11:33] <MNKentB> ompaul, it works fine with just a small email.
[11:33] <bulent> hey people i'm a new ubuntu user... but i have some problems... in the live edition it identified my wireless card... which i don't even know it's brand... thus ubuntu does not support turkish characters.... is there anyone who can help me ?  Anyone listening to me ?!
[11:33] <ompaul> MNKentB, 90k is very small
[11:33] <ompaul> !patience
[11:33] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:33] <MNKentB> ompaul, yes.
[11:33] <cynical> bulent: yes, what exactly do you need?
[11:33] <Chandu> eyequeue: ok
[11:33] <bulent> Well i real wonder how i can add a turkish character support to my OS
[11:34] <eyequeue> Chandu, these are all general principles, but common ... it's not a requirement, just incrementing things so they are larger is all you need, you can go from 1.1 to 65.4 ;-)
[11:34] <ompaul> MNKentB, okay first off try to send a 90k text doc to yourself not a pdf
[11:34] <MNKentB> ompaul, but just small emails go through quite simply.
[11:34] <_X-ray_> !patience
[11:34] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:34] <bulent> Thus i wonder if i can get a wireless card search or something like that
[11:34] <eyequeue> Chandu, does the method make sense in your head though?  that's my goal here
[11:34] <MNKentB> ompaul, I tried that the other night with the ISP.  It failed.
[11:34] <cynical> bulent: you should choose your country in the installer
[11:35] <Chandu> eyequeue:yaa, thank U very much
[11:35] <MNKentB> ompaul, it hung and never finished.
[11:35] <bulent>  i did but still it does not support the turkish characters..
[11:35] <bulent> my ubuntu is in Turkish... but still i can't type turkish characters
[11:35] <Chandu> eyequeue: If I follow x.x.x. format upto what range I can give ,
[11:35] <cynical> go to system > preferences > keyboard
[11:35] <_X-ray_> hehe
[11:35] <MNKentB> ompaul, what hardware are you using?
[11:35] <ompaul> bulent, take your time stop repeating please
[11:35] <_X-ray_> no need to be.... cynical :D
[11:35] <ompaul> _X-ray_, what is so funny
[11:35] <cynical> :D
[11:35] <Paladine> anyone using a huappage tv card with ubuntu, if so which one? trying to decide whether to get the 250 or 350
[11:36] <_X-ray_> just said it
[11:36] <Paladine> hauppauge even
[11:36] <eyequeue> Chandu, any.  2.4.9 leads to 2.4.10 though, which is confusing maybe
[11:36] <cynical> bluent: in the layouts tab, go to add and choose turkey, then make it your default
[11:36] <ompaul> MNKentB, five different boxes
[11:36] <frying_fish> Paladine: I am using a hauppage card
[11:36] <ompaul> MNKentB, :-) varing degrees of hardware
[11:36] <frying_fish> but the nova-t as I wanted freeview.
[11:36] <eyequeue> Chandu, the kernel is 2.6.15 in ubuntu dapper, for example :-)
[11:37] <frying_fish> and, the remote works perfectly with lirc :D, just need to grab that right config files and set them up accordingly.
[11:37] <MNKentB> ompaul, well there is a problem there for sure someplace.
[11:37] <Paladine> yeah I have a dvb usb box but is no good because I need to send a signal from my sky tv decoder to the card, and the dvb boxes don't work like that
[11:37] <Chandu> eyequeue:2.4.9 to 2.5.0 or 2.4.10 , Iam little bit confused ,suppose If I start with 1.0.0. , then which one I should go on increasing
[11:37] <cynical> bulent: sry did you get that?
[11:37] <frying_fish> Paladine: nope they don't, so 250 or 350 is what you will be looking at, probably go for the 350
[11:38] <frying_fish> since I know it has the same remote as the nova-t, and as I said, it works good.
[11:38] <Paladine> yeah but the 350 is uber expensive, so I was wondering what the results arelike with the 250
[11:38] <bulent> Yea i did... i made it my default but still i can't type turkish characters... can it be a problem about my laptop keyboard?
[11:38] <eyequeue> Chandu, 2.4.10 would follow 2.4.9, unless it is "bigger" and you want to go to the 2.5 series
[11:38] <MNKentB> ompaul, why would it send small emails and not slightly larger ones?
[11:38] <Paladine> 100 quid for the 350
[11:38] <frying_fish> oh right, 250 is probably reasonable...
[11:39] <bulent> oh i just got an erorr message... my bad... i should better log in as the root
[11:39] <frying_fish> see what google thinks, more likely to have more knowledge than the people in here.
[11:39] <Chandu> eyequeue:in x.x.x format , 3rd x upto what number I can increase
[11:40] <ompaul> MNKentB, (A) do you leave mail on the server in your ISP? is that full?
[11:40] <eyequeue> Chandu, look on some linux kernel mirror perhaps, for the various releases ... it takes a month or two for a x.y.z "z ro change" release, and a year or two for a "y to change" release (2.5.x to 2.6.x) and well, the "2" at the front may not become a 3 for a decade, heh
[11:40] <MNKentB> ompaul, there is nothing like that.  It is a standard smtp server.
[11:40] <eyequeue> Chandu, i've seen that third number, that i called z, in the 2 digit range, x.y.115, i think
[11:40] <Paladine> frying_fish, did you have to do anything funky with your kernel config or do the tv cards work "out of the box"?
[11:40] <ompaul> MNKentB, (B) have you spoken with your isp?
[11:41] <frying_fish> Paladine: out of the box
[11:41] <frying_fish> including lirc (once you put the configs in the right place)
[11:41] <cynical> bulent: Do you have any idea who manufactures your wireless card? Or the model of the card?
[11:41] <MNKentB> ompaul, I have spent a half hour the other night with my isp.
[11:41] <ompaul> MNKentB, okay here is what I suggest sign up for a free yahoo account or some such
[11:41] <ompaul> test pop from there
[11:42] <ompaul> MNKentB, then test sending
[11:42] <Chandu> eyequeue:ok ,thank U very much , I got some idea, Thanks for clearing my doubts
[11:42] <ompaul> MNKentB, I regularly send reports to people
[11:42] <schasi> hi there
[11:42] <Paladine> frying_fish, I compiled rivatv the other day for the vivo on my 6600GT but I still couldn't get it to work :/
[11:42] <MNKentB> ompaul, I have two pop accounts at yahoo.  A personal one and a business one. The business one is my main pop account.
[11:43] <NakedRNA> Has anyone tried to use a ps2 eyetoy as a webcam on ubuntu?
[11:43] <schasi> is the /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list still current for modules that should not be loaded, or is there a different approach?
[11:43] <MNKentB> ompaul, but the smtp server stays with my isp.
[11:43] <ompaul> ahh
[11:43] <eyequeue> Chandu, i recommend browsing at some kernel mirror for real life examples
[11:43] <frying_fish> hauppauge just work Paladine, they are the best cards
[11:43] <eyequeue> Chandu, glad i could make things a bit clearer though :)
[11:43] <MNKentB> ompaul, downloading does not seem to be the problem.
[11:44] <MNKentB> ompaul, so you think that the smtp server is still the problem?
[11:45] <ompaul> MNKentB, I am just going to look at the settings for min
[11:46] <MNKentB> ompaul, thanks.
[11:48] <halorgium> my locales are broken :/
[11:48] <ompaul> MNKentB, are you using dapper 6.06 ?
[11:48] <halorgium> any ideas?
[11:49] <MNKentB> ompaul, yes.
[11:49] <halorgium> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[11:49] <halorgium> ^^ that is what i get :(
[11:49] <ompaul> MNKentB, what version is your thunderbird
[11:49] <MNKentB> ompaul, I started with 5.10 and did the online upgrade.
[11:49] <ompaul> MNKentB, click on help and about
[11:50] <MNKentB> ompaul 1.5.0.2
[11:51] <ompaul> MNKentB, post your sources from /etc/apt/source.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give me the url please
[11:51] <MNKentB> ompaul, okay.
[11:51] <halorgium> anyone? :>
[11:52] <ompaul> !patience
[11:52] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:52] <ompaul> halorgium, please wait a while
[11:52] <halorgium> :)
[11:53] <halorgium> i'm thinking it is because i installed vim from edgy
[11:53] <ompaul> !edgy
[11:53] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:53] <ompaul> halorgium, you are in the wrong channel
[11:54] <ompaul> halorgium, we don't do unstable here ;-)
[11:54] <halorgium> well, my base is dapper :)
[11:54] <halorgium> i just have edgy vim :P
[11:55] <halorgium> but if you </3 me that much, i'll leave :P
[11:56] <MNKentB> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23202
[11:58] <Rico> ehey, does anyone remember the name of that personal wiki tool for gnome? tomboy is way too buggy
[11:59] <ompaul> MNKentB, here are the lines that should be in yours the security one is missing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23203 add it and do >> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:59] <fzn> is there any special folder established for rpm repository ?
[11:59] <ompaul> fzn, we don't use rpms
[11:59] <ompaul> fzn, we have almost 20k in packages what program are you looking for
[12:00] <MNKentB> ompaul, thanks I will try it now.
[12:04] <musti> Hello people, can some1 gimme a link or just say howto backup desktop/home with tar
[12:06] <ompaul> musti, tar cvf mybackup.tar /home/username
[12:06] <FirstStrike> bah..i was about to hit enter.
[12:06] <ompaul> musti, dont do it in your home directory :-)
[12:06] <MNKentB> ompaul, some of those are in there but they are commented with # should these be commented?
[12:06] <ompaul> FirstStrike, is second ;-)-
[12:07] <kremsner> hy! anyone know how to run 2 monitors with different resolutions?
[12:07] <musti> mpaul: thanks alot think ill get it
[12:07] <ompaul> MNKentB, just add my one I have moved off the page
[12:07] <ompaul> MNKentB, as in add the security one
[12:08] <MNKentB> ompaul, you had three lines listed.
[12:08] <Otacon22> there is a good program in linux for overclock a pentium celeron?
[12:08] <MNKentB> ompaul, just as it is or with a # symbol first?
[12:08] <kremsner> hy! anyone know how to run 2 monitors with different resolutions?
[12:08] <ndlovu> hi all. How can I change the default editor that is used by ubuntu. For example, when I type "crontab -e" nano is used, but I'd prefer to use vi.
[12:08] <cowbud> Otacon22: a special program called the bios
[12:09] <Otacon22> cowbud, bios have limits
[12:09] <Ash-Fox> Otacon22, it's more hardware related than software.
[12:09] <ompaul> MNKentB, I gave you what you actually need in those three lines you can remove what you have already if you want
[12:09] <cowbud> Otacon22: yah so do programs
[12:09] <PecisDarbs> how to check it if kernel has quotas enabled in Ubuntu? Somewhere in /proc or else?
[12:11] <cynical> Otacon22: programs change bios settings, so no program could give you more options than the bios could :P
[12:11] <Otacon22> cynical,
[12:11] <Otacon22> with bios can i overclock from 500 mhtz
[12:11] <Otacon22> to 700 max
[12:12] <Otacon22> but i want to go more
[12:12] <cynical> otacon22: depends on your processor/motherboard/power supply/memory :P
[12:12] <cynical> Otacon22: there so so many factors its ridiculous, the best way to find out is to try it
[12:13] <zerokarmaleft> got a networking question here...using dig to lookup us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com gives me a set of addresses in the 12.x.x.x range, and tracepath gets no reply on the first hop, like it's trying to find the host locally first
[12:14] <ndlovu> ah, here it is: "sudo update-alternatives --config editor"
[12:15] <helloworld> if you're have a multi core cpu is it possible to assign processes to a specific core?
[12:16] <bostonino> hello
[12:16] <bostonino> there are Italian?
[12:16] <mjr> helloworld, I don't think that's possible with the stock kernel; if you really need it, I believe there are processor affinity patches to do that
[12:16] <godfather> good morning
[12:16] <eyequeue> !it > bostonino
[12:16] <godfather> guys
[12:17] <mjr> helloworld, generally though, the scheduler does try not to swap processes around the cores too much anyways
[12:17] <helloworld> mjr: I see
[12:18] <icedawg> :D
[12:18] <MNKentB> ompaul, thanks it looks like it has its work cut out for it.
[12:18] <godfather> is there a voipskype like programe for ubuntu?
[12:19] <Casanova> Where do i file a bug for launchpad?
[12:19] <MNKentB> ompaul, downloading lots.
[12:19] <eyequeue> !bugs
[12:19] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <fatbrain> Hello, how can I ... access arguments passed to my script file?
[12:20] <Casanova> eyequeue: no i mean in Launchpad itself
[12:20] <fatbrain> myscript bleh foo
[12:20] <fatbrain> ?
[12:20] <eyequeue> Casanova, if you can use it, launchpad itself is the "product"
[12:20] <eyequeue> Casanova, if you can get into it, i mean
[12:20] <mjr> godfather, recommend Ekiga (skype is available if you're using x86, though, but I don't recommend that)
[12:20] <eyequeue> Casanova, it is considered a ubuntu "product" if i have the term right
[12:21] <godfather> Ekiga
[12:21] <godfather> ?
[12:21] <godfather> ok tnx
[12:21] <Mortice> i've had real troubles with Ekiga and NAT traversal
[12:21] <eyequeue> !info ekiga
[12:21] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[12:21] <Casanova> eyequeue: i choose launchpad-integration as the product?
[12:21] <Casanova> there doesnt seem to be a product called `launchpad'
[12:21] <gilianima> how to repair broken packages ?
[12:21] <gilianima> with command line...?
[12:21] <eyequeue> Casanova, gmm, if that is the one that fits your situation
[12:22] <godfather> guys
[12:22] <eyequeue> Casanova, if mis-filed, someone will come along to fix it, but yes that sounds right
[12:22] <Casanova> eyequeue: i dont really know... the problem is that I see listen as a package.. but when i select listen.. it says the package is not in ubuntu
[12:22] <galorin> fatbrain, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html should be full of info for you.
[12:22] <Casanova> ah ok
[12:22] <godfather> could help me with kubuntu
[12:22] <fatbrain> galorin: Thanks
[12:22] <eyequeue> !info listen
[12:22] <godfather> ?
[12:22] <ubotu> Package listen does not exist in any distro I know
[12:22] <emesgee> yay for 10 minute reinstallations
[12:23] <godfather> i need  to set a wireless connection
[12:23] <galorin> fatbrain, don't thank me yet, not sure if that's the right link.  My other BASH programming links are dead.
[12:24] <emesgee> its HUEG
[12:25] <ompaul> MNKentB, well I would have expected that - you will have to reboot
[12:25] <CVirus> but HUGE*
[12:26] <emesgee> HUEG is how you spell it - HUEG like XBOX
[12:26] <CromagDK> LOL ?
[12:26] <CromagDK> HUEG like XBOX heh
[12:26] <CromagDK> fun :D
[12:26] <CVirus> hehe
[12:26] <po0f> kde is teh hueg?
[12:26] <emesgee> unfortunately I am a /b/tard
[12:26] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:26] <emesgee> its downloading ~400MB worth of delicious cotton candy
[12:27] <ompaul> emesgee, I hope you did it like this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop - if not at the end do that before you restart your wm ;-)
[12:27] <emesgee> of course I did
[12:27] <DiODO> hi all :)
[12:28] <xanda> hello
[12:28] <ompaul> emesgee, you would be surprised at what some people do ;-)
[12:28] <ompaul> or maybe no
[12:28] <emesgee> and then it crapped out a gargantuan list of what it was about to install... and I was like "uhhh... okay!"
[12:28] <FirstStrike> ompaul: Your next step; enforce proper spelling.
[12:28] <xanda> what kind of packaging does ubuntu come in via ship-it
[12:29] <ompaul> FirstStrike, ti od ot woh ?
[12:29] <eyequeue> xanda, a cardboard box, if quantity needs that
[12:29] <archangelpetro> when adding export PATH etc commands to .bash_profile.. do the actual literal paths have to be inside " " speech/quote marks?
[12:29] <xanda> i ordered 1
[12:29] <xanda> cd
[12:29] <ompaul> xanda, it will arrive in a padded envelope
[12:30] <ompaul> package
[12:30] <eyequeue> xanda, no experience, but i would guess one of those padded envelopes
[12:30] <xanda> ty
[12:30] <FirstStrike> It takes about 4 - 6 weeks as well doesn't it?
[12:30] <eyequeue> heh
[12:30] <ompaul> FirstStrike, it does
[12:30] <FirstStrike> I'm sure they have a hard time keeping up with the volume ordered.
[12:30] <FirstStrike> Plus, it's free.
[12:30] <xanda> what if it doesn't work on my computer?
[12:30] <ompaul> FirstStrike, only for dapper
[12:30] <eyequeue> FirstStrike, about that, but i'll bet around release date it gets bad, heh
[12:30] <FirstStrike> I'm sure.
[12:31] <Vargnatt> FirstStrike, i got my CDs in something like 2 weeks :)
[12:31] <xanda> do i send it back?
[12:31] <FirstStrike> xanda: Do you have some obscure hardware that nobody has ever heard of?
[12:31] <ompaul> xanda, you can try it first and you can come back to us and say it does not work and we will tell you stuff - what if it does work
[12:31] <FirstStrike> Nah..you can keep it or trash it.
[12:31] <eyequeue> and rather than trash it, give it to someone :)
[12:31] <ompaul> omg it works
[12:31] <ompaul> :)
[12:32] <xanda> Firststrike, an old pentium 2
[12:32] <FirstStrike> It should work (should being the key word) without any hitches.
[12:32] <emesgee> question: can XGL be installed in KDE
[12:32] <eyequeue> xanda, it should work on a p2, i have put it on a p1 :)
[12:32] <ompaul> xanda, it willllll be slow
[12:32] <ompaul> xanda, get as much ram as you can into that box
[12:32] <FirstStrike> emesgee: yes
[12:32] <xanda> 350MHZ
[12:33] <eyequeue> xanda, consider no-gui :)
[12:33] <xanda> 256mb
[12:33] <rofl0r> how can i change the default soundcard for my system (i have 2, both show up in xfce4-mixer)
[12:33] <eyequeue> xanda, wow, that's a lot of machine, by my standards, heh
[12:33] <xanda> lol
[12:33] <emesgee> tanks... wow its already done downloading kubuntu-desktop
[12:33] <ompaul> xanda, how big a drive?
[12:33] <eyequeue> xanda, gui may be fine for that, xubuntu especially
[12:33] <xanda> 40gb
[12:34] <ompaul> good
[12:34] <FirstStrike> People run gnome on 128 mb of ram just fine.
[12:34] <Chousuke> Hmm
[12:34] <Chousuke> 128MB is a bit low for Gnome
[12:34] <xanda> should i download xfce?
[12:34] <Chousuke> 256 is okay
[12:34] <rofl0r> xanda: yes
[12:34] <xanda> or kde
[12:34] <ompaul> xanda, xubuntu iso
[12:34] <FirstStrike> Either way, I have 2 gb so it doesn't really matter what I run.
[12:34] <xanda> show off
[12:34] <Chousuke> Heh
[12:34] <FirstStrike> :)
[12:34] <rofl0r> xanda: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <FirstStrike> I'm a gamer..we have beefy machines.
[12:34] <godfather> any expert of wireless lan?
[12:35] <xanda> ty
[12:35] <xanda> lol
[12:35] <xanda> WoW?
[12:35] <FirstStrike> no way :P
[12:35] <xanda> prey
[12:35] <xanda> ?
[12:35] <FirstStrike> no
[12:35] <xanda> oblivion
[12:35] <FirstStrike> nope..
[12:35] <xanda> what then
[12:35] <FirstStrike> anyway, ompaul is going to smack us for being offtopic soon.
[12:36] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:36] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:36] <FirstStrike> ^
[12:36] <ompaul> please stray ontopic thanks ;-)
[12:36] <xanda> i'm moving to offtopic
[12:36] <rofl0r> how can i change the default soundcard for my system (i have 2, both show up in xfce4-mixer)
[12:36] <kremsner> Hy! Anyone can Help me with DualHead?
[12:37] <godfather> please help me
[12:38] <eyequeue> base-files depends on awk
[12:38] <eyequeue> ^^ but but but why?
[12:38] <FirstStrike> !ask
[12:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:38] <eyequeue> i'm trying to get all the programming languages off this box
[12:40] <jason_> bah open office wont spell check if loacl is nz
[12:41] <eyequeue> jason_, isn't there a language pack package you need to install for that?
[12:41] <jason_> i dont think there is an nz....
[12:41] <KageSenshi> hello .. anybody know where i can get cgwd-0.57/0.56 tarballs ..?? ... i couldnt find em through google .. (or perhaps anybody can suggest a better keyword to search for)
[12:42] <eyequeue> jason_, lol, don't apt-cache search nz, i learned :)
[12:43] <beli> hi folks
[12:43] <jason_> ;) i looked in synaptic theres gb us and za
[12:43] <beli> 0000:00:0a.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)
[12:43] <beli> that's my DVB card with common FlexCopII chipset
[12:44] <beli> i am using 2.6.15-26-386
[12:44] <beli> and modules are loaded and used, but
[12:44] <beli> b2c2-flexcop: no frontend driver found for this B2C2/FlexCop adapter
[12:44] <beli> from syslog
[12:45] <jason_> switched default document ;aunguge to au and that fixed it.... talk about random setting
[12:48] <godfather> plese could give me the documentation guide for wireless lan
[12:48] <godfather> i'm an holpless case
[12:49] <beli> godfather: get a cable ;)
[12:49] <godfather> beli
[12:49] <godfather> i can't :-(
[12:49] <beli> godfather: just joking'
[12:50] <godfather> we need to use the wireless lan
[12:50] <godfather> ... so
[12:50] <beli> godfather: you need to make your system recognize your wlan card....lspci should show it and lsmod should show the correct module
[12:50] <beli> godfather: then you just need to follow the docs
[12:50] <godfather> ok let me try
[12:50] <rasputnik> godfather: what sort of card is it?
[12:51] <godfather> let me see
[12:51] <godfather> i have asus laptop
[12:52] <godfather> zydas technologie corporation
[12:54] <rasputnik> godfather: oh dear :(
[12:54] <rasputnik> try 'modprobe zd1211'
[12:55] <godfather> done
[12:56] <godfather> and then
[12:56] <beli> godfather: no error?
[12:56] <rasputnik> run 'dmesg' and see if anything showed up
[12:57] <godfather> no
[12:57] <beli> godfather: be happy
[12:57] <godfather> why.... should i?
[12:57] <beli> godfather: do what rasputnik told you
[12:57] <godfather> oh
[12:58] <godfather> command not found
[12:58] <beli> dmesg?
[12:58] <beli> run it as root
[12:58] <lupine_85> erm, no
[12:59] <tjb> How do I play a DVD movie in Ubuntu?  I just stuck one in and it complained that there's no handler for DVDs.
[12:59] <rasputnik> tjb: ogle is nice.
[12:59] <lupine_85> !dvd
[12:59] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:00] <godfather> ok
[01:00] <godfather> it gives to me a long list
[01:00] <godfather> of
[01:00] <beli> godfather: sth. about your wlan card at the end?
[01:01] <tjb> If I put it in my Windows box's drive, it plays right away.  Why didn't it with Ubuntu?
[01:01] <lupine_85> tjb: because Windows paid the licensing fees
[01:01] <godfather> at the end of list..u mean
[01:01] <tjb> I see.
[01:01] <lupine_85> Ubuntu is free and Free, so didn't
[01:01] <godfather> ?
[01:01] <tjb> Unfortunately though the sound doesn't seem to be working on Windows
[01:01] <godfather> ah ok
[01:01] <lupine_85> godfather: at the end of the stuff dmesg put out, you should have something to do with the card
[01:02] <tjb> Oh, it is working.  Had to turn it right up
[01:02] <jason_> tjb, try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or autoamtix
[01:02] <beli> what does microsoft windows and a submarine have in common?
[01:02] <godfather> i 've found i line tht tells(no ipv6 routers present)
[01:02] <lupine_85> that's fine
[01:02] <rasputnik> godfather: you've just loadad a kernel module. with any luck, it will know what your card is and a new interface (ethsomething) would be mentioned at the end of dmesg output
[01:02] <lupine_85> when you run "iwconfig", does it show any interfasces with wireless interfaces?
[01:03] <lupine_85> erm, any interfaces with wireless attributes
[01:03] <|Leara|> After changing from the ATI drivers to the FGLRX drivers, I can't change my screen resolution to 1280x960 anymore. Does anybody know how to fix that?
[01:03] <lupine_85> |Leara|: change back? :)
[01:03] <tjb> jason_: Okay.
[01:03] <godfather> i try to give iwconfig
[01:04] <|Leara|> lupine_85: I need 3D acceleration, which the usual ATI drivers don't seem to provide, so, no.
[01:04] <lupine_85> mm, no idea then. Do the fglrx drivers support widescreen modes?
[01:04] <napoleon1> hi guys, i was browsing the firefox extensions when i came across flashgot. Is there a flashget alternative for linux that I could use with that extension?
[01:04] <godfather> eth0 no wireless extension
[01:05] <|Leara|> I think so, but I don't have a widescreen monitor, just a 19" CRT
[01:05] <Itkovian> Any idea how to get the 2.6.15 kernel cvompiled for powerpc, without it complaining about the absence of btext_drawtext?
[01:05] <godfather>  wlan0 Acces Point not associated
[01:05] <napoleon1> also, for xchat, is there a way to /ignore the joins parts nicks quits events?
[01:05] <lupine_85> godfather: wlan0 is your interfaces
[01:05] <godfather> sit0 no wireless extension
[01:05] <lupine_85> erm, interface
[01:06] <lupine_85> so all you need to do is set it up with the details of your access point
[01:06] <lupine_85> do you use wep? wpa
[01:07] <rasputnik> godfather: if you need to load that module on every boot, then add the word 'zd1211' to the end of /etc/modules
[01:08] <marcus_> hello
[01:08] <ubuntu> hello, is there no need to slecet /boot and home in the setup
[01:08] <godfather> it gives to me the essid and it'sright
[01:08] <lupine_85> so it's picked up the essid automatically?
[01:08] <godfather> yeah i use the wep
[01:08] <godfather> yes automatically
[01:08] <lupine_85> right, you need to give it the key - sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <key>
[01:08] <lupine_85> prefix ascii (text/passphrase) keys with "s:"
[01:08] <lupine_85> once you've done that, you "should" be able to just sudo dhclient wlan0 to get an IP address - and you're done
[01:08] <godfather> sudo iwconfig wlan0 s "key"
[01:08] <godfather> ?
[01:08] <godfather> is it right?
[01:08] <lupine_85> erm, sudo iwconfig wlan0 s:key
[01:08] <lupine_85> erm, suudo iwcoonfig wlan0 key s:key
[01:08] <lupine_85> sorry
[01:09] <lupine_85> ubuntu: if you don't, they just get put on your /
[01:09] <marcus_> any girl here?
[01:09] <whitewindow> hi @all what can i do to solve this problem  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58243
[01:09] <eyequeue> marcus_, yes
[01:10] <jason_> godfather, once you get going you might want to look at network manager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:10] <lupine_85> NetworkManager--
[01:10] <rasputnik> lupine_85: heretic! nm is really nice
[01:11] <lupine_85> :p
[01:11] <jason_> true, if you have a laptop you &*need* nm
[01:11] <godfather> it gives  me
[01:11] <godfather> nodhcpoffers received
[01:11] <ubuntu>  is there no need to selcet /boot and /home in the setup ?
[01:12] <lupine_85> ubuntu: no need
[01:12] <ubuntu> thanks :)
[01:12] <lupine_85> godfather: something isn't right then
[01:12] <godfather> no working leases in persistent database -sleeping
[01:12] <eyequeue> ubuntu, no need to make them separate partitions, if you mean that
[01:12] <godfather> wait
[01:12] <lupine_85> if you iwconfig again, does it show your router's MAC address as the "Access-Point:" ?
[01:12] <godfather> but when you said "key"  u mean the wep key right?
[01:12] <rasputnik> ubuntu: you might want to though. does make life easier if you ever need to dual-boot
[01:13] <xoops> :)
[01:13] <lupine_85> godfather: yes :)
[01:13] <eyequeue> ubuntu, /home is also handy if ever you have to reinstall, no personal data loss
[01:13] <lupine_85> sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <key>
[01:13] <lupine_85> (the second one being your actual key)
[01:13] <godfather> yes it shows to me
[01:13] <xoops> hello guys
[01:14] <godfather> it seems in hexadecimal code
[01:14] <loveubuntu> why does ubuntu not have xchat anymore in default install???
[01:14] <lupine_85> in that case, drop the s: and re-set it
[01:14] <ph8> hi guys
[01:14] <godfather> sudo iwconfig wlan0 Wep Password?
[01:14] <ph8> i'm wondering if anyone builds grsec into their ubuntu kernel? I'm trying to find an archived version of it to use with ubuntu's -7 kernel (grsecurity.org only seems to have downloads for -11!)
[01:15] <inflex> Does anyone know if you can print to HPGL printers in ubuntu?
[01:15] <inflex> (on a serial port)
[01:16] <xice> whats that linux file size command again?
[01:16] <godfather> sorry lupine_85
[01:16] <thorre> xice: du
[01:16] <ph8> xice: du
[01:16] <xice> ty
[01:16] <compengi> how to update my nvidia driver to the latest one?
[01:16] <napoleon1> hi guys, when logging in with gdm, which file (.xinitrc, or .xsession) in ~ is used for custom commands?
[01:16] <thorre> is there a newer version of clamav? WARNING: Local version: 0.88.2 Recommended version: 0.88.4
[01:16] <napoleon1> i'd like to use xmodmap to switch capslock and control
[01:16] <lupine_85> godfather: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <key>
[01:16] <thorre> i have done a apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[01:17] <xice> ph8, how about for just the directory
[01:17] <ph8> du -s ./
[01:17] <marcus_> any girl here??????????????????????
[01:17] <ph8> iirc
[01:17] <godfather> yes
[01:17] <lupine_85> replace key with your hex key
[01:17] <ph8> -sh is always nice, human readable
[01:17] <eyequeue> marcus_, yes
[01:17] <marcus_> i open a dialog window with you
[01:17] <godfather> but with "<key>"....th pswd ..rigth
[01:17] <godfather> ?
[01:18] <marcus_> isn't it?
[01:18] <eyequeue> marcus_, no, i'm not one myself, just telling you there are
[01:18] <lupine_85> godfather: yes
[01:18] <bostonino> X psybnc psotnic support.ircHosting@hotmail.com 1 Gb/s ip .de .se .nl vhost .com .us .it .de .at .st
[01:18] <topdog> napoleon1: look at xkeycaps
[01:18] <eyequeue> marcus_, why does it matter anyway?
[01:18] <Lynoure> marcus_: In text mode it is very easy to be XX :)
[01:18] <napoleon1> topdog: I've got the command needed, but I'm not sure where to put it
[01:19] <eyequeue> Lynoure, as long as it's not XXX, heh
[01:19] <marcus_> there are any way more to talk in private with somebody?
[01:19] <compengi> how to update my nvidia driver to the latest one?
[01:19] <Mortice> marcus_: in IRC? /query (person)
[01:19] <napoleon1> marcus_: /query /msg
[01:19] <loveubuntu> why does ubuntu not have xchat anymore in default install???
[01:19] <mypapit> loveubuntu: yeah, i was wondering the same thing too
[01:19] <napoleon1> loveubuntu: windows licensing? who knows.
[01:19] <compengi> loveubuntu, to make you install it :)
[01:20] <napoleon1> loveubuntu: it's easily obtainable though
[01:20] <godfather> it gives me this error msg "unrecognise wireless request "the wep key"
[01:20] <ompaul> loveubuntu, it uses gaim
[01:20] <Lynoure> eyequeue: at least he did not go asl...
[01:20] <eyequeue> loveubuntu, sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:20] <loveubuntu> but it shouldve been there default:)
[01:20] <ompaul> Lynoure, ?
[01:20] <mypapit> loveubuntu: prolly because they xchat is deem to be redundant because ubuntu already has gaim
[01:20] <topdog> napoleon1: e.g in ~/.xmodmap which you pass as an arg to xmodmap
[01:20] <mypapit> loveubuntu: people complained about xmms too
[01:20] <Lynoure> ompaul: hmm?
[01:20] <napoleon1> topdog: right. but where would that command be placed?
[01:21] <ompaul> Lynoure, you were referring to something - I was curious
[01:21] <eyequeue> ompaul, the guy who kept asking if a girl was here (not native english either)
[01:21] <topdog> napoleon1: ~/.xinitrc
[01:21] <ompaul> eyequeue, ahh
[01:21] <eyequeue> ompaul, i kept answering yes, heh
[01:21] <ompaul> eyequeue, would you stay that was too far off topic?
[01:22] <napoleon1> ta
[01:22] <eyequeue> ompaul, he wasn't all that high-volume, i just watched to see where it went basically
[01:22] <jbxyo> How i modify my partition
[01:22] <loveubuntu> i think totem-gstreamer should be replaced with totem-xine............totem-gstreamer doesnt even play unencrypted dvds....although Help says that it does
[01:22] <jbxyo> how i go on the software to modify my partition
[01:22] <xoops> @godfather http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-101.html ;) http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=19916
[01:22] <eyequeue> ompaul, nor did he go against CoC, which is what i expected instead
[01:22] <rasputnik> loveubuntu: totem doesn't seem to be worth havinh imo, never plays anything I feed it
[01:23] <thorre> rasputnik: same experiance here
[01:23] <jbxyo> hey
[01:23] <jbxyo> Bon, comment on fait la commande pour ouvrir le gestionaires de disques (hd) ?
[01:23] <jbxyo> oops
[01:23] <jbxyo> sorry
[01:23] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > rasputnik
[01:23] <chinny> loveubuntu - second that - am using vlc as totem-gstreamer wouldn't work for me.
[01:23] <loveubuntu> rasputnik, but toem-xine will do better job
[01:23] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > thorre
[01:23] <jbxyo> how i modify the partition of linux
[01:23] <jbxyo> what software
[01:23] <jbxyo> is it ?
[01:23] <rasputnik> thorre, loveubuntu : can't tell whether it's totem or gstreamer that sucks :)
[01:23] <xoops> jbxyo use qtparted
[01:23] <eyequeue> !fr > jbxyo
[01:24] <jbxyo> ok
[01:24] <jbxyo> thx !
[01:24] <ootput> regarding gaim and irc, how do I specify which channels to join upon connection (if that's even possible?)
[01:24] <ompaul> !enter
[01:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:24] <eyequeue> jbxyo, you are welcome here, that was just in case it is easier for you in french
[01:24] <loveubuntu> chinny, i like vlc too. ONLY  vlc plays my dvd isos with menus & chapter selection
[01:24] <jbxyo> i know sorry :P
[01:24] <rasputnik> eyequeue: I understand the licensing issues. but it's like on osx when quicktime jumps up to play *every* file, despite the fact it doesn't know how to
[01:24] <ootput> loveubuntu: that's the only reason why i use vlc
[01:25] <ootput> loveubuntu: for all else, mplayer-nogui does the trick ;)
[01:25] <chinny> loveubuntu - plus deinterlacing built in
[01:25] <loveubuntu> ootput, right:)
[01:25] <eyequeue> rasputnik, that factois should list how to get the nastylegalthings too
[01:25] <xoops> ootput use /ajoin
[01:25] <eyequeue> factoiD
[01:25] <rasputnik> loveubuntu: yup mplayer is the daddy of all media players.
[01:25] <rasputnik> eyequeue: thanks, bookmarked
[01:25] <loveubuntu> but hey is it illegal to install libdvdread or libdvdcss OR both?
[01:25] <ootput> xoops: no such command. where should that command be issued?
[01:26] <eyequeue> rasputnik, no prob
[01:26] <xoops> simple works with whatever client ur get on sever
[01:26] <jbxyo> how i launch qtparted lol
[01:26] <ootput> loveubuntu: only the latter, i think
[01:26] <xoops> ootput ajoin = auto join
[01:26] <ootput> xoops: yeah, i'm having difficulty issuing it in gaim
[01:26] <ootput> xoops: well, yes :)
[01:26] <xoops> see /msg Chanserv help
[01:27] <loveubuntu> im not installing vlc coz of libdvdread...thinkin its illegal
[01:27] <jbxyo> how i launch qtparted ^^
[01:27] <emesgee> k, then no vlc 4 u
[01:27] <jason_> loveubuntu, I think it depends where you live
[01:28] <z1pp3r> I've got an Asus P5LD2 motherboard with an onboard soundcard (Realtek ALC882). I also have an Audigy 4 PCI soundcard installed. However, i'm only able to get sound from my audigy card. I found a guide on the forums that told me to use OSS instead of ALSA, and i tried that - i still only get sound from my audigy card. Anyone got a hint on what to do?
[01:28] <emesgee> it does depend where it lives
[01:28] <marcus_> where are you from eyequeue?
[01:28] <chinny> jason_ - where is it not legal to install?
[01:28] <ph8> i'm wondering if anyone builds grsec into their ubuntu kernel? I'm trying to find an archived version of it to use with ubuntu's -7 kernel (grsecurity.org only seems to have downloads for -11!)
[01:29] <xoops> jbxyo must be installed ......
[01:29] <jason_> chinny, well im pretty sure its not in the states due to patent laws etc
[01:29] <eyequeue> marcus_, i've moved a number of times, but .us
[01:29] <chinny> jason_ uk?
[01:29] <snail> does anyone have secondlife running on dapper?
[01:29] <xoops> jbxyo for other way you can use cfdisk
[01:29] <jason_> chinny, just a sec
[01:29] <marcus_> i dont understand you
[01:29] <ootput> xoops: oh, so that can be done serverside?
[01:29] <xoops> simply starts in terminal ....sudo cfdisk
[01:30] <azcazandco> does anyone here know how to use photorec?
[01:30] <eyequeue> marcus_, usa here
[01:30] <ootput> xoops: where, as soon as i identify with the network, I'll be automatically conencted to the channels?
[01:30] <marcus_> ok
[01:30] <jason_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss seems it status is uncertain
[01:30] <xoops> ootput shure ...@ irc.pathos.irc-mania.de or irc.NoNseNse.irc-mania.net it works
[01:30] <marcus_> im from barcelona
[01:30] <eyequeue> ootput, yes, /msg ChanServ help
[01:31] <xoops> so i think here it must work too
[01:31] <jason_> chinny, except in the states i guess where its illegal to "try" and circumvent
[01:31] <MrKeuner> hi, printer is connected to a dapper system A on my local lan. On the dapper system B i cannot see that printer although i have done ./enable_sharing and ./enable_browsing on A and enabled detection of lan printers on B. What else should I do?
[01:31] <mjr> lostsync, libdvdread is legal probably almost anywhere, libdvdcss may not be
[01:31] <marcus_> its a little strange chat for me (eyequeue)
[01:32] <eyequeue> marcus_, very busy in here sometimes
[01:32] <eyequeue> !es > marcus_
[01:32] <xoops> marcus ..yes any diffrent to the other irc servers here
[01:32] <marcus_> i know...........
[01:32] <eyequeue> marcus_, that channel is less busy
[01:32] <chinny> jason_ - bit of a grey one then - no legal precedent as yet...
[01:32] <marcus_> can i talk with you in a private window or something???
[01:33] <eyequeue> marcus_, and #ubuntu-offtopic is for talk that is not about ubuntu support issues
[01:33] <eyequeue> marcus_, okay
[01:33] <marcus_> what is that?
[01:34] <ootput> eyequeue: could you clue me in as to whcih option i should look at
[01:34] <ootput> eyequeue: there seems to be a plethora of them
[01:34] <marcus_> CTCP VERSION?
[01:34] <jason_> chinny, yeah for personal use your probably fine, but distrubuting is another matter
[01:34] <eyequeue> ootput, i don't recall, but if you need me to, i can go look myself
[01:34] <ootput> eyequeue: ah, that's ok. I thought you knew of it offhand
[01:35] <ootput> i suppose I should google (as always) for a solution
[01:35] <jbxyo> HOW I USE GPARTED
[01:35] <CromagDK> !shout
[01:35] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:35] <jbxyo> QTPARTED *
[01:35] <rasputnik> jbxyo: is it installed? open a terminal and run it.
[01:36] <jbxyo> ok
[01:36] <jbxyo> but how i use it
[01:36] <jbxyo> it say that he dont find any partition
[01:36] <CromagDK> man gparted ?
[01:36] <eyequeue> ootput, maybe i was thinking of another services?  i guess dancer doesn't do it, but you can set it in xchat configuration
[01:36] <rasputnik> jbxyo: what are you trying to do with your disk?
[01:36] <xoops> jbxyo you must have it installed on your system ....if it installed you can get it over the menue
[01:36] <eyequeue> ootput, which irc client do you use?
[01:36] <ootput> eyequeue: I'm guessing nickserv would be the only other option, as chanserv seems to be channel-specific (where I'd actually own the channel)
[01:36] <CromagDK> jbxyo: there must be some discs somewehere
[01:36] <ootput> eyequeue: gaim
[01:37] <jbxyo> yeah i know :S
[01:37] <ootput> eyequeue: though I've been using irssi up until now
[01:37] <ubuntu> at which part of setup should you be prompted another os was found ?
[01:37] <jbxyo> wierd :(
[01:37] <ootput> ubuntu: installation of bootloader
[01:37] <eyequeue> ootput, i did help, and help set, for both ChanServ and NickServ, i don't think dancer-services supports that
[01:37] <rasputnik> jbxyo: do you have an existing install? what disks have you got?
[01:38] <ubuntu> ootput: could have guesssed that ...
[01:38] <xoops> jbxyo you must run it as root
[01:38] <jbxyo> how
[01:38] <jbxyo> i run it as root ? how
[01:38] <xoops> sudo
[01:38] <rasputnik> jbxyo: sudo gparted
[01:38] <CromagDK> sudo
[01:38] <eyequeue> ootput, sudo apt-get install xchat, gaim is rather un-featureful for irc
[01:38] <xoops> or fakeroot
[01:38] <jbxyo> how yeah
[01:38] <jbxyo> that make a time that i dont use linux xD
[01:38] <xoops> rasputnik not gparted simply qtparted
[01:39] <rasputnik> jbxyo: no offence, but if you have no idea what you're doing it's probably best you don't try to reformat your disks.
[01:39] <xoops> naked parted prog on qt interface
[01:39] <jbxyo> THX !
[01:39] <CromagDK> i killed my tables last night hehe
[01:39] <jbxyo> uh
[01:39] <xoops> used for example kubuntu
[01:39] <CromagDK> that SUX!
[01:39] <ootput> eyequeue: i'd like to avoid xchat. btw, i found http://wiki.freeculture.org/index.php/IRC_with_Gaim :D
[01:40] <rasputnik> xoops: don't know what qtparted you use, but it's not a naked parted. it's a gui app.
[01:40] <ootput> eyequeue: I'm quite fond of the 2.00beta release of gaim
[01:41] <ootput> eyequeue: i was a bit of a console-junkie before using ubuntu
[01:41] <jbxyo> i want to delete ubuntu
[01:41] <jbxyo> how
[01:41] <rasputnik> xoops: and I don't think fakeroot does what you think either
[01:41] <ootput> eyequeue: said 'f*ck it' and went with gui alternatives instead :)
[01:41] <jbxyo> How i delete UBUNTU
[01:41] <gilianima> is it possible to make a resume with scp ?
[01:41] <eyequeue> ootput, i only have 1.5.1cvs, from dapper
[01:42] <josh_> question... what file do i modify to make a permanent change to my path variable?
[01:42] <xoops> rasputnik iv'e written thats based interface on qt
[01:42] <ootput> eyequeue: there's an unofficial build floating around somewhere
[01:42] <ootput> eyequeue: came across it on the forums
[01:42] <xoops> same runtime which in basic kde use
[01:42] <eyequeue> !info gaim edgy
[01:42] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 1279 kB, installed size 3624 kB
[01:42] <rasputnik> josh_: ~/.bash_profile
[01:42] <slacker_nl> josh_: in your .profile or in your .${shell}rc
[01:42] <eyequeue> ootput, seems like it will be in edgy too
[01:42] <ootput> eyequeue: if you'd like, i could find the apt entry
[01:42] <rasputnik> xoops: how is gparted different?
[01:43] <ootput> eyequeue: i think so
[01:43] <xoops> windows sys based on metacity and this posix
[01:43] <rasputnik> gilianima: you probably want rsync, not scp, if you want to resume
[01:44] <josh_> how am i supposed to add things to it? its a bash script...
[01:44] <xoops> any apps can doin diffrent by switchin the window management
[01:44] <josh_>  PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[01:44] <gilianima> rasputnik: thanks
[01:45] <rasputnik> xoops: sorry, I think we have a language issue.
[01:45] <josh_> can i just add after the = and put a : btween my entires and the ~/bin entry?
[01:45] <xoops> :P
[01:45] <slacker_nl> josh_: look for something like : PATH=.. and add it: PATH=...:yournewlocation save it
[01:45] <rasputnik> josh_: yeah
[01:45] <josh_> ok
[01:45] <ootput> PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[01:45] <M_A_K> I just booted from the ubuntu 6.0.6 live CD. Why does the HD show up as sda rather than hda?
[01:46] <eyequeue> josh_, it is considered less of a security problem to put ~/bin at the end btw
[01:46] <rasputnik> M_A_K: you have sata disks?
[01:46] <ootput> M_A_K: is the disk connected to a sata controller?
[01:46] <M_A_K> yep
[01:46] <josh_> i didn't make it that way eye
[01:46] <M_A_K> OK.
[01:46] <josh_> PATH=/scripts:/data/Scripts:~/bin:"${PATH}"
[01:46] <josh_> so that is acceptable then?
[01:46] <slacker_nl> eyequeue: did you drink whitebeer already?
[01:46] <rasputnik> eyequeue: not really. if someone can write to ~/bin, they can probably edit your dotfiles too
[01:46] <ootput> josh_: remove the quotes
[01:46] <xoops> =;0)
[01:46] <xoops> ^^
[01:47] <eyequeue> slacker_nl, not yet, none here
[01:47] <CarinArr> yeah
[01:47] <josh_> it was like that before ootput, i only added both scripts directories
[01:47] <rasputnik> josh_: that's fine. don't be scared.
[01:48] <M_A_K> So I wish to make an image of my HD so I can deploy it to the other computers in my room.  I am planning to give dd another try.  I have an external USB 400GB HD attached.  What is the command to make an image of the entire HD to the external drive?  Do I really need to image the entire drive or can I just image / ?  I have /, /home, /backup (empty at the moment), and swap.
[01:49] <ootput> M_A_K: I personally use rsync -aHxv /old/ /new
[01:49] <ootput> M_A_K: be careful with dd. Are both disk dimensions the same?
[01:49] <M_A_K> yes, but can I just use dd to image a partition?
[01:50] <ootput> M_A_K: rsync -x only considers one filesystem, and won't traverse different partititions
[01:50] <ootput> *partitions
[01:51] <M_A_K> So, back to my original question, if I use dd, do I really need to image entire drive? or can I just grab /  ?
[01:51] <frogzoo> M_A_K: dd images the raw disk, not the file system, so it's not such a great idea - tar is much better for everything except capturing your mbr
[01:51] <rasputnik> M_A_K: just rsync /
[01:51] <frogzoo> M_A_K: sure, you can dd just the / partition
[01:52] <M_A_K> What I am after is this...I created the "perfect" machine and now want to copy that HD to all of the other computers in the room.  All have identical HD's.
[01:52] <rasputnik> M_A_K: do they have identical hardware too?
[01:52] <M_A_K> Yes
[01:53] <rasputnik> I that case, use dd.
[01:53] <ootput> M_A_K: oh, so you're using the external disk as the transfer medium
[01:53] <frogzoo> M_A_K: in that case, dd would be best 'dd if=/dev/hda of=disk.img bs=100000'
[01:53] <M_A_K> Wait a minute, 2 machines have firewire cards , other than that, they are identical
[01:54] <frogzoo> M_A_K: doubt that's important
[01:54] <ootput> M_A_K: if they're all networked, you can setup a central server, netboot all of the other machines and do an nfs mount, and transfer everything over
[01:54] <josh_> how do i reload my profile to get the $PATH into $env
[01:54] <josh_> without logging out and back in
[01:54] <M_A_K> I am too new to linux for that just yet.
[01:54] <gilianima> what is the equivalent of "scp myfile user@ip:/home/user/" with rsync (with resume option) ? I can't find the answer...
[01:54] <rasputnik> josh_: . .bash_profile (that's '.' as a command)
[01:54] <frogzoo> josh_: . /etc/environment
[01:54] <josh_> ahh
[01:54] <ootput> gilianima: rsync man pages should mention secure protocols
[01:55] <gilianima> ootput: it didn't help me, really
[01:55] <M_A_K> I assume that of= requires path to my external, but what is bs=100000 ?
[01:55] <rasputnik> gilianima: rsync -v /path/to/file user@ip:/home/user/file
[01:55] <frogzoo> M_A_K: block size, the default will be horribly slow
[01:55] <josh_> it didn't take the changes....
[01:55] <rasputnik> gilianima: although rsync is more for mirroring directories
[01:55] <M_A_K> Ok, thanks frogzoo. I will give this a try.
[01:55] <frogzoo> josh_: source /etc/environment
[01:56] <gilianima> rasputnik: but i need the resume option
[01:56] <rasputnik> josh_: add an 'export PATH' to the end of that file
[01:56] <josh_> end of what file?
[01:56] <rasputnik> gilianima: rsync handles partial files out of the box
[01:56] <rasputnik> josh_: the file you set your PATH in.
[01:56] <ootput> gilianima: rsync should be able to figure out which files are identical on source/target boxes
[01:56] <ootput> by default
[01:57] <frogzoo> PATH should be set in /etc/environment (for a global PATH)
[01:57] <frogzoo> no export required
[01:57] <josh_> ahh
[01:57] <josh_> thats what i wanted to change
[01:57] <josh_> thank you frog
[01:58] <ootput> brb
[01:58] <rasputnik> frogzoo: ~/.bash_profile works too though, yeah?
[01:58] <josh_> yeah but i want for all users not just this one user
[01:58] <rasputnik> josh_: ah sorry, you should've said :)
[01:59] <josh_> i know, my bad
[01:59] <josh_> i was actually intending on oing it for each account but then frog spoke up
[01:59] <frogzoo> rasputnik: actually no, gnome doesn't see your login as a root login, so profile isn't sourced - try ~/.gnomerc
[01:59] <josh_> and i like changing one intead of 12 :P
[01:59] <rasputnik> josh_: I'm used to shared boxes, where users get pissed off if you change their path
[02:00] <M_A_K> frogzoo : there is no progress indicator..  160GB HD, about how long over USB 2.0 do you thing?
[02:00] <josh_> yeah but since i run my network... everyone can kiss my @ss
[02:00] <rasputnik> frogzoo: you mean .bashrc?
[02:00] <ootput> M_A_K: a few hours, i'd guess
[02:00] <godfather> g'day
[02:00] <frogzoo> rasputnik: no I mean what i said, oddly enough
[02:00] <godfather> rasputnik
[02:00] <godfather> i've failed
[02:00] <josh_> lol
[02:01] <godfather> this damn wireless connection!
[02:01] <frogzoo> M_A_K: spose 1/2 an hour roughly
[02:01] <rasputnik> godfather: 'shows you no respect' heehee
[02:02] <godfather> oh
[02:02] <godfather> i respect u
[02:02] <godfather> :)
[02:02] <rasputnik> godfather: you could try installing network-manager. that's supposed to sort out wireless for you
[02:02] <gilianima> rasputnik: is it possible to have a more verbose mode than -v with rsync ?
[02:03] <rasputnik> gilianima: -vvv (no, really)
[02:03] <M_A_K> Damn, file size llimit exceeded?  What does that mean?  The image is currently 4G.
[02:03] <gilianima> rasputnik: because I can't see how much time is left...
[02:04] <gilianima> rasputnik: nor the speed
[02:04] <xoops> bye
[02:05] <evil_bunny> if /boot and /home partitions are not selected are they simply placed in / ? and if a swap partition is already available should it be reformatted ?
[02:05] <ootput> evil_bunny: yes and no
[02:05] <segosa> does anyone have a link to a tutorial on installing x.org? I've googled but I can't find anything.
[02:05] <rasputnik> gilianima: it's done when it's done :/
[02:07] <CVirus> where shall I pass the gcc flags during compilation ?
[02:07] <godfather> i have to cook something
[02:07] <godfather> cul8r
[02:07] <segosa> basically my current system is a server (used to be called minimal i think) install of the alternate iso
[02:07] <segosa> wanna manually install x.org then fluxbox
[02:07] <segosa> i've done it before, a long time ago, but I forgot how :/
[02:08] <M_A_K> frogzoo : it quit with a file size error.  Is there a switch to break the image into multiple files?  Is this a problem wi th the filesystem on my external HD?  It is FAT 32.
[02:08] <mathieu> apt-get install xserver-xorg fluxbox
[02:08] <mathieu> something like that...
[02:08] <evil_bunny> does refprmatting mess up with partition tabels ?
[02:08] <evil_bunny> *reformatting ?
[02:09] <ootput> evil_bunny: no
[02:09] <evil_bunny> okee thanks :) then i'm ready to install :)
[02:09] <ootput> evil_bunny: though, to be on the safe side, you should have a fair idea of the partition layout before attempting to modify anything. You should know where pre-existing OS' lie
[02:09] <frogzoo> M_A_K: fat32 will quit at 2gb me thinks
[02:10] <M_A_K> So, what now?  The image will be larger than 2g for sure.
[02:10] <Healot> 2TiB in theory
[02:10] <jrib> segosa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[02:10] <blackwire83> how do i get started changing ubuntu source packages? any pointer?
[02:10] <ootput> 4g, isn't it?
[02:10] <Healot> oh max file size
[02:10] <Healot> 4GiB - 2B
[02:10] <blackwire83> (i have done own debian source packages before)
[02:10] <M_A_K> Probably 4GB as the image is currently 4GB.
[02:10] <M_A_K> Is there a switch to create multiple files?
[02:10] <jrib> !motu
[02:10] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:10] <ootput> Healot: is that 'give or take 2 bytes?' :D
[02:11] <frogzoo> M_A_K: do you have anything on the disk of value? also, how big is the disk ?
[02:11] <M_A_K> Yes, quite a bit of value.
[02:11] <M_A_K> It is 400 GB
[02:11] <jrib> blackwire83: you want to contribute or just for your personal use?
[02:11] <M_A_K> Using about 200 GB now.
[02:11] <Healot> minus
[02:11] <blackwire83> jrib: first personal use, if it's generally usable also contribute
[02:11] <frogzoo> mathieu: well you could create a partition the same size & dd to that directly
[02:12] <mathieu> frogzoo: wrong person
[02:12] <Healot> 4GiB minus 2 bytes
[02:12] <segosa> jrib: ty
[02:12] <frogzoo> M_A_K: well you could create a partition the same size & dd to that directly
[02:12] <ootput> M_A_K: i haven't been following the recent conversation points, but what did you finally settle on to transfer the contents?
[02:12] <M_A_K> ootput : trying to image entire disk
[02:12] <jrib> blackwire83: should be the same as Debian.  All I do is apt-get source, to get the source package; edit what I want; then rebuild the package with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc.  If you are interested in contributing, checkout what ubotu said about MOTU
[02:12] <ootput> M_A_K: which method?
[02:12] <M_A_K> dd
[02:12] <evil_bunny> ootput: i have an ntfs partition with XP a fat32 partition (empty) a swap and a reiserFS with Gentoo. i selected the gentoo partition as / (reformatting) . however i dont want setup to mess up with windoes partitions
[02:13] <blackwire83> jrib: thanks
[02:13] <ootput> evil_bunny: oh, that should be fine. There's a clear distinction b/w reiser and ntfs partitions in the partition editor
[02:14] <ootput> evil_bunny: i was afraid that you were juggling multiple ext3 partitions
[02:14] <_mason> Gday, quite recently i have been having quite w bit of problems burning dvds .. im about 75% sure it isnt the DVD's problem.. is there anywhere i can get more detailed diagnostic information?
[02:15] <_mason> the gnome cd burning utility doesnt, well.. its very simple
[02:15] <evil_bunny> ootput: leaving the windows partitions /media/hda1 /media/hda2 should be great then
[02:15] <ootput> _mason: you could use mkisofs and growisofs (with verbose flags) at the command line, if you're comfortable with that
[02:15] <_mason> It just says "An error occurred while writing"
[02:16] <_mason> So command line burning application
[02:16] <lupine_85> k3b gives full info as well
[02:16] <ootput> _mason: I'm not sure if bashburn handles dvd, but that's a good a curses-frontend as any
[02:17] <ootput> _mason: that's the main limitation of gui apps
[02:17] <ootput> evil_bunny: sure
[02:17] <ootput> evil_bunny: first ubuntu install?
[02:18] <evil_bunny> ootput: should the ntfspartition be left /media/hda1 and fat32 /media/hda2 or should they be left blank (no mounting point) ?
[02:18] <ootput> evil_bunny: i'm surprised you got through tthe gentoo installation ok :)
[02:18] <evil_bunny> ootput: srry didnt see your answer
[02:18] <ootput> evil_bunny: the docmentation is great, but it can be a bit intimidating for new users
[02:18] <evil_bunny> ootput: getoo docs are great :)
[02:18] <_mason> ootput, Indeed it is. With both the applications you mentioned, are the both the same? or do i have to use both in the cd creation process ?
[02:18] <evil_bunny> ootput: compile from source sucks
[02:18] <lupine_85> portage++
[02:18] <ootput> _mason: mkisofs will create an iso of the directory contents, whereas growisofs will actually do the burning
[02:19] <ootput> _mason: you'd use one, then the other
[02:19] <jake> hello, I read a post from on getautomatix looking for testers, what could I do to help?
[02:19] <ootput> evil_bunny: hear hear!
[02:19] <ootput> evil_bunny: my laptop couldn't take the constant builds
[02:19] <jrib> !automatix
[02:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:19] <ootput> evil_bunny: plus, i was one helluva impatient user
[02:19] <manmadha> can any one tell the good download manager for linux??
[02:20] <Mortice> wget :)
[02:20] <ootput> curl
[02:20] <ootput> manmadha: flashgot+curl
[02:20] <jrib> manmadha: d4x
[02:20] <ootput> assuming you're using firefox
[02:20] <_mason> Ahh yes, Thankyou.. I will try this and hopefully it will solve my burning problems, (If not.. Ill check the disks, then consider replacing my 4x speed vintage pioneer dvd burner)
[02:20] <ootput> _mason: there should be a few good docs on burning dvds from the command line
[02:21] <ootput> _mason: personally, I love commandline tools
[02:21] <manmadha> jrib, ya i have installed d4x but i doin know where the downloading is saving??can u help me????
[02:21] <ootput> manmadha: from my experience, d4x can be quite unstable under heavy loads
[02:22] <ootput> manmadha: ymmv
[02:22] <jrib> manmadha: go to options > general > download
[02:22] <evil_bunny> ootput: okee started install :)
[02:23] <ootput> evil_bunny: hehe, coincidentally, my gf just brought home a Bill&Teds * Adventure set on dvd
[02:23] <manmadha> jrib, thank u
[02:23] <ootput> evil_bunny: evil bunny indeed ;D
[02:23] <manmadha> ootput, it is better to install flushgot??
[02:24] <evil_bunny> ootput: some error found on fat 16 partion
[02:24] <evil_bunny> setup failed
[02:24] <simtower> hello, can somebody send dcc to me the file "/etc/init.d/rc"
[02:24] <ootput> manmadha: flashgot acts as a conduit for downloads offered by a site. You'd then use a http agent (or similar) to actually fetch the files
[02:24] <finalbeta> Where are the alsa configuration files in ubuntu? /etc/asound.conf or ~/asoundrc don't exist.
[02:24] <ootput> manmadha: besides the rudimentary "download file to.." phase, there's not much flexibility in using curl or wget
[02:25] <ootput> manmadha: you can use flashgot (firefox extension) with any number of downloaders- d4l included
[02:25] <evil_bunny> ootput: should i check if my system is still bootable ?
[02:25] <Paladine> welp time to reinstall windows
[02:26] <ootput> evil_bunny: where are you in the installation?
[02:26] <Paladine> bye bye ubuntu
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: ~/.asoundrc
[02:26] <manmadha> ootput, ohh thank u...
[02:26] <simtower> does anyone have /etc/init.d/rc they can send me... i can't boot ubuntu without it
[02:26] <STORMCHAS3R> How do I join ubuntu to a windows domain?
[02:26] <ootput> evil_bunny: ah whopps, didn't see your fat16 point
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> simtower: what happened to yours?
[02:26] <finalbeta> fyrestrt1, that doesn't exist. There must be some configuration already present? I've got half working sound.
[02:26] <manmadha> ootput, i cant find it in synaptic...
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> !alsa > finalbeta
[02:27] <evil_bunny> ootput: pressed install started formatting and install exited with an error ...guess partition table is now lost
[02:27] <simtower> fyrestrtr: i accidentally deleted it while trying to add a startup script
[02:27] <ootput> manmadha: flashgot is a firefox extension. d4x should be in the repos, though
[02:27] <simtower> bad tutorial
[02:27] <ootput> evil_bunny: yikes
[02:27] <manmadha> ohh
[02:27] <finalbeta> yeahyeah, the faq, no good that one.
[02:27] <finalbeta> Doesn't help me at all with that question.
[02:27] <evil_bunny> ootput: should i check it ?
[02:28] <hernan> hi
[02:28] <ootput> evil_bunny: so the installation process terminated?
[02:28] <STORMCHAS3R> !windows domain
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows domain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <ootput> evil_bunny: do you have a rescue cd or something?
[02:28] <STORMCHAS3R> !domain
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <evil_bunny> ootput: yes it did
[02:28] <Mortice> !samba > STORMCHAS3R
[02:28] <hernan> ricardooooooo!
[02:29] <STORMCHAS3R> Mortice, samba?
[02:29] <STORMCHAS3R> !samba
[02:29] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:29] <hernan> poooototoooooooo
[02:29] <ootput> evil_bunny: what are the contents of the fat16 partition?
[02:29] <ootput> (out of curiosity)
[02:29] <_mason> ootput, I have an additional problem sadly, I have just recently installed ubuntu on my brothers computer .. slowly pushing him out of windows, but i cannot share files between computers using samba and all my attempts at nfs have failed because of a bad 'export' setup but i copied exactly from the ubunu.wiki
[02:29] <_mason> Do you have any suggestions?
[02:29] <STORMCHAS3R> Mortice, I can add to the windows domain with samba?
[02:30] <evil_bunny> ootput: nothing some music ... worried about the ntfs one
[02:30] <Mortice> STORMCHAS3R: yup. check the links ubotu gave you
[02:30] <fyrestrtr> STORMCHAS3R: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Adding_a_Samba_Server_into_an_existing_AD_Domain
[02:30] <STORMCHAS3R> ty
[02:30] <gean> hi all !
[02:30] <simtower> does anyone have /etc/init.d/rc they can send me... i can't boot ubuntu without it
[02:30] <ootput> evil_bunny: you should be able to continue the installation despite the fat16 error (which is most likely an fstab mount issue)
[02:31] <eyequeue> simtower, see #ubuntu-offtopic reply
[02:31] <evil_bunny> ootput: rebooting to see if system still boots then will try again
[02:31] <ootput> evil_bunny: it's only when a bootable partition (with an OS) is altered during the isntallation
[02:31] <ootput> _mason: linux -> linux sharing?
[02:31] <_mason> ootput yes
[02:32] <_mason> simtower, im uploading a copy now
[02:32] <lupine_85> simtower: http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/rc
[02:32] <manmadha> ootput, he it is possible to stop & continuee the downloads in d4x??
[02:32] <_mason> http://lazzareth.com/rc
[02:32] <_mason> simtower ^
[02:32] <ootput> _mason: can you paste(bin) the server's /etc/exports, and the clients fstab?
[02:32] <manmadha> ootput, if so can u tell me how to do it?
[02:33] <simtower> thank you so much mason
[02:33] <ootput> manmadha: iirc, yes. I'm not using it atm (haven't in years) so I can't tell you for certain
[02:33] <_mason> Clients fstab ? why .. Isnt nfs visible in the "network browser"
[02:33] <_mason> but yes, ill get my export file
[02:33] <manmadha> oh ok
[02:33] <AngryElf> guys i setup a cron job to automatically update, and it sends me an email every time, kinda annoying, how can i stop it?
[02:34] <ootput> _mason: I've no idea as I've never used it :) I'm feel more secure when tinkering with text files :D
[02:34] <ootput> s/I'm/I/
[02:34] <manmadha> jrib, he it is possible to stop & continuee the downloads in d4x??if so can u plz tell me the process???????
[02:34] <STORMCHAS3R> Mortice, srry, i dont want to add a server, i just simply want to join and authneticate on a windows domain.
[02:35] <_mason> ootput, I apreciate the help, ill be a second or so more
[02:35] <ootput> _mason: that's ok. for reference, i'll paste mine somewhere too
[02:35] <compengi> !seen someothernick
[02:35] <bintut> i need help on setting up XGL on my HP Compaq nx6125 laptop running Ubuntu Dapper AMD64..  you can check some of the info of my laptop at http://rafb.net/paste/results/IGbdLQ57.html and http://rafb.net/paste/results/VqJe5n17.html
[02:36] <jrib> manmadha: press the pause button to pause and then the play button to resume
[02:36] <manmadha> jrib, if we close the d4x then ???noeffect??
[02:36] <Mortice> !xgl
[02:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:37] <_mason> ootput, its only 4 lines, do you want me to just post it into a private chat between myself and you?
[02:37] <STORMCHAS3R> this ios prolly a dumb ?, but how do you change the hostname in ubuntu?
[02:37] <jrib> manmadha: I think you need to leave it open
[02:37] <M_A_K> frogzoo : the image finished.  I actually did from drive to drive.
[02:37] <manmadha> jrib, oh ok thank u
[02:37] <jrib> manmadha: but I don't know, give it a try
[02:37] <M_A_K> One problem.  The wireless adapters on the source were labeled ra0 and ra1.  On hte new drive, they show as ra2 and ra3.
[02:37] <manmadha> okkkk
[02:38] <M_A_K> So now I need to chang the hostname.  How do I do that?
[02:38] <evil_bunny> ootput: its not bootable
[02:38] <evil_bunny> grub error 15
[02:39] <_mason> ootput Eitherway http://paste-bin.com/425
[02:39] <evil_bunny> i think stage 2 of grub is out since the reiserfs partition was formatted
[02:39] <ootput> _mason: http://paste.lisp.org/display/25884
[02:40] <ootput> evil_bunny: do you have a separate /boot partition? (sorry if you mentioned it earlier)
[02:40] <evil_bunny> ootput: its not bootable ... what should i set the mountpoint of the fat16 partition to  ?
[02:41] <evil_bunny> ootput: no it was the resierFS which got formatted ?
[02:41] <M_A_K> ootput : can you tell me how to change the hostname of a computer the correct way?
[02:41] <_mason> ootput: The Server.. that location doesnt exist (the /var/www/htdocs/pub/ubuntu .. )
[02:41] <_mason> can i replace it?
[02:42] <ootput> _mason: oh, sure. That's my particular setup (a local ubuntu repository)
[02:42] <_mason> Ahh
[02:42] <ootput> _mason: chekov.master.lit is the hostname of an internal server
[02:43] <evil_bunny> ootput: no i have no boot . /boot was on the reiserFS
[02:43] <ootput> _mason: you can replace it with an ip address
[02:43] <_mason> so mine would be  192.168.1.x
[02:43] <_mason> yeah
[02:43] <ootput> evil_bunny: oh. yeah, that's why it's not bootable. Grub/Lilo was installed in the Master Boot Record, and it pointed to the reiserfs partition which is now empty
[02:43] <evil_bunny> ootput: what mount point should i set to the fat16 partition maybe i install buntu and system is again bootable ?
[02:44] <ootput> evil_bunny: yeah, if you install ubuntu, it should be bootable again
[02:44] <_mason> ootput: In the ubuntu wiki it has told me to make some minor changes to /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server  Could i compare mine to yours?
[02:45] <ootput> _mason: not much of a comparison, as mine doesn't exist :)
[02:45] <evil_bunny> ootput: i only need to skip that fat16 error ... should i remove any mount point to the fat 16 partition ?
[02:45] <ootput> evil_bunny: yeah, you can always modify /etc/fstab later
[02:45] <_mason> ootput, the only other file i touched was /etc/default/nfs-common
[02:45] <_mason> Dont suppose that exists :P ?
[02:45] <ootput> evil_bunny: it's not important
[02:46] <bintut> how can i play audio streaming from www.shoutcast.com using rhythmbox?
[02:46] <ootput> _mason: heh, nope
[02:46] <ootput> _mason: it looks like that wiki you consulted suggested installation of other packages
[02:46] <ootput> _mason: i didn't have to install anything extra
[02:47] <_mason> Id say so ( $ apt-get isntall nfs-common nfs-kernel-server ) :P
[02:47] <ootput> evil_bunny: if all goes well during the installation, your bootloader should be installed to mbr, and it should point to /boot of your (x|k)ubuntu root
[02:48] <evil_bunny> ootput: the erroe cam up again i should select continue i think ?
[02:48] <ootput> _mason: have you tried using similar entries to my fstab and exports?
[02:48] <ootput> evil_bunny: yeah, it's no biggy
[02:49] <illsci> has anyone found a real solution to the ati driver issue...
[02:49] <illsci> glxgears doesn't work after updating to the latest version
[02:49] <ootput> _mason: you'd need portmap on the server, too, iirc
[02:49] <evil_bunny> okee
[02:49] <illsci> and copying the old libGL.so.1.2 doesnt do direct rendering...
[02:50] <illsci> I wish i never updated
[02:50] <ootput> _mason, evil_bunny: I'll be having dinner shortly, but i'll be back later
[02:50] <_mason> ootput: Just cleaning up a little, the going to try
[02:50] <fowlduck> wow, dinner.  I just had breakfast
[02:50] <_mason> Thankyou for your help today ootput
[02:50] <_mason> I just had bacon
[02:51] <ootput> _mason: np. the more i help, the more i learn (=
[02:51] <fowlduck> cinnimon-swirl raisin bread here
[02:51] <_mason> Indeed
[02:51] <_mason> :)
[02:51] <fowlduck> with soy butter (allergic to dairy)
[02:51] <fowlduck> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:51] <_mason>                                                      ^ i would die
[02:51] <_mason> Ahh
[02:51] <ahfeel> hi all, does anybody knows how to get the "real" CPU frequency on centrino's computers ? because /proc/cpuinfo gives the realtime freq, which isn't the "real" one ?
[02:51] <fowlduck> it gets better, I live in Wisconsin
[02:51] <_mason> I meant the dairy part, Couldnt live without it
[02:51] <fowlduck> the dairy state
[02:52] <fowlduck> anyways, gtg
[02:52] <_mason> The most isolated city in the world here :P
[02:52] <fowlduck> Fargo?
[02:52] <_mason> Perth!
[02:52] <fowlduck> close enough?
[02:52] <_mason> Dunno, Wheres Fargo?
[02:53] <evil_bunny> ootput: when should i be prompted that windows was found ?
[02:53] <fowlduck> north dakota i think
[02:53] <_mason> Perth, Western Australia
[02:53] <fowlduck> lol
[02:53] <bintut> how can i play audio streaming from www.shoutcast.com using rhythmbox?
[02:53] <_mason> :P
[02:53] <fowlduck> k, gonna go now
[02:53] <drbashir> !lamp
[02:53] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:53] <fowlduck> later :)
[02:53] <bintut> with a filename like:  file.pls
[02:53] <_mason> seya
[02:54] <ulfar> Ubuntu tech support ? :o
[02:54] <ulfar> how does one search using the apt-get tool ?
[02:55] <faux> ulfar: apt-cache search
[02:55] <Adam> Hi. I'm double-booting Dapper 6.06 and Window. How do I increase the size of my Ubuntu partition at the expanse of my Windows partition?
[02:55] <ulfar> faux: ah, cache, thanks mate
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Adam: gparted
[02:55] <Adam> Jack_Sparrow, is it risky?  any reason to refrain?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Adam: or partition magic if you have it
[02:56] <Adam> nope, I don't have PM
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Adam: Working with partition tables always carries some risk
[02:56] <Adam> Jack_Sparrow, ok, thanks for the tip
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Adam: In this case. slight. but you should have a backup..
[02:57] <Adriano> hello all
[02:57] <Adam> (I wish I allocated more space to begin with)
[02:57] <evil_bunny> ootput: when should i be prompted that windows was found on another partition ?
[02:57] <Adriano> I'm having a bit of problem with seahorse-agent
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Adam: I resized my ntfs this week with no problems, but I scanned it and defragged first just to help
[02:57] <Adriano> if I add it to the session, it opens up the seahorse window
[02:57] <Adriano> instead of running quietly in the background
[02:58] <Adriano> has anyone experienced this? this is on dapper
[02:58] <evil_bunny> ootput: its already 95%
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: What are you trying to do or what program are you running that would ask that?
[02:59] <evil_bunny> Jack_Sparrow: th installer
[02:59] <evil_bunny> Jack_Sparrow: setup is somplete but i never was warned that windows was detected
[02:59] <drbashir> I'm pretty sure 320mb memory isn't enough for Ubuntu (7.1gb HD, P3 500Mhz) is that true?
[02:59] <TeePOG> good afternoon
[02:59] <evil_bunny> Jack_Sparrow: is that normal ?
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: I dont remember it telling me it was found, did you tell the installer to use all unallocated space?
[03:00] <Adriano> drbashir: the dapper cover says it wants at least 256
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> drbashir: 256
[03:00] <evil_bunny> Jack_Sparrow: no an already available partition
[03:01] <ulfar> i find my 3dfx not running as smooth as i want to on linux, for example the screensaver isnt smooth, any idea on how to fix that?
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: should be fine then
[03:01] <evil_bunny> Jack_Sparrow: anyway i will try to reboot now that setup  is complete Thanks
[03:01] <dan271828> i would like 2 install ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, which is the iso that i have to burn (ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso     or desktop or sever instead of alternate) ?
[03:01] <ulfar> dan271828: go for desktop
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: go to terminal and type  glxgears -printfps wait for a minute then tell us the fps..
[03:02] <drbashir> interesting... but I think I only want to run a lamp server and a mail server. But would much rather have something graphical to work with instead of just terminal
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> no evil
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> no problem evil
[03:02] <dan271828> tell ulfar ok, thanks!
[03:02] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: i just did apt-get nvidia-glx, dont know if it will help
[03:03] <rasputnik> ulfar: probably not if you're using 3dfx
[03:03] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: do i have to restart X after i install nvidaglx ?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: it should if you are running nvidia
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: dont know but it cant hurt
[03:03] <TeePOG> can i ask a question? more to the point, may i copy and paste a question in the form of a convo?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: Do you know what video card you have?
[03:04] <drbashir> actually, how can I switch off the X server if I dont want to use it any more?
[03:04] <blackwire83> is there a good structure description of ubuntu source packages?
[03:04] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: some nvidia based card
[03:04] <godfather_> is there any gamer
[03:04] <Nameeater> TeePOG: dependant on its length
[03:04] <Nameeater> godfather_?
[03:05] <godfather_> i wish to if is it possible run World of Warcraft on linux
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: run glxgears before you restart x
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> wow yes
[03:05] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: alright, hold on
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !games
[03:05] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:05] <TeePOG> Nameeater: about 20 shortish lines
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: no
[03:05] <Nameeater> pastebin :)
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: use pastebin
[03:05] <TeePOG> ok, pastebin it is, brb
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > TeePOG
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry TeePOG
[03:06] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: lol is there no way make it set the output to a file? like glxgears -printfps > file
[03:06] <kovztch> Hello who is here
[03:06] <TeePOG> no worries Jack_Sparrow
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: it is just going to give you a number
[03:06] <drbashir> kovztch, about 871 ppl, you want them all to say hi?
[03:07] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: does it ever finish ? or does it just keep printing
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> it keeps running until you stop it..
[03:07] <godfather_> yes but the question is if using wine (for example ) i can run it on linux
[03:08] <evil_bunny> okee everything worked :) now am updating :)
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> godfather_ the link provided has everything you need to know
[03:08] <evil_bunny> thankes ootput and Jack_Sparrow
[03:08] <evil_bunny> -e
[03:08] <drbashir> Jack_Sparrow, remember the annoying window that comes up when you idle for a bit?
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: well done.. happy camper now?
[03:08] <godfather_> ok
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> drbashir: what window?
[03:09] <evil_bunny> Jack_Sparrow: : happy :D
[03:09] <Zeekius> Hiyas, I just downloaded the 6.06.1 i3 iso image to run from cd, but after putting in the disc and getting the happy logo I get a "start2.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close" crash n burn dialog.  Any idea how to proceed?
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: Now would be a great time to do a backup... of Ubuntu
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: One line is all you need to type in terminal
[03:09] <TeePOG> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23209
[03:09] <godfather_> great u're right jascksparrow
[03:10] <godfather_> ;)
[03:10] <drbashir> a long while ago I complained about some window popping up when I was gone for about 5 minutes... I thought it was the IRC client, but then I switched to using xchat, and it still appeared
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: tar -cvpzlf /backup.tgz --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz /
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> brb, gotta get my coffee
[03:11] <kovztch> Hello can you help me
[03:12] <TeePOG> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23209
[03:12] <godfather_> i got it just now
[03:13] <kovztch> Slt xeras
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: Just finished readin it.. now trying to think of the best way to do that.
[03:14] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.ca/167860
[03:14] <TeePOG> OK Jack_Sparrow, shout if you think of anything... i'm totally stumped, not so good at scripting yet
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> godfather_: do a screen capture and post it so we know what you are seeing and maybe we can tell you why or how to fix it
[03:15] <ulfar> this screensaver lag is not cool :o
[03:15] <kovztch> Hello andresmujica can you help me
[03:15] <godfather_> jack_sparrow
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: I take it that you cant just copy the data into a clean OS and get it to work that the db itself has a problem?
[03:15] <godfather_> i've just resolved my problem tnx
[03:16] <Bonez56> hi, can someone please point me in the direction of a clear guide on how to join an Ubuntu PC to a Windows AD domain?
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: how many fps are you getting?
[03:16] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.ca/167860
[03:16] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: during heavy screensavers i get terrible lag issues
[03:16] <TeePOG> yes Jack_Sparrow, the DB has been in use for about 1 year 10 months... and it's a bloody M$ Access DB, not exactly enterprise-level stable
[03:17] <ulfar> wich is wierd for a new laptop like this one
[03:17] <kovztch> there is nobobdy here to help me
[03:17] <evil_bunny> hmm its seems i cant play mp3... i think there must be some media setup docs around !
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup    then   gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[03:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: You will soon love that bot
[03:18] <kovztch> godfather can you help me i don't arrive to load a software
[03:18] <TeePOG> Jack_Sparrow: we're doing a new installation of the OS and management system, but really do want to capture everything manually again, start afresh... only, we need every user's data on its own page
[03:18] <rofl0r> whats the command to mount a cd to media/cdrom ?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: Yes, I think you would be best to script that out..
[03:19] <TeePOG> so we don't have to access 27 tables to get one user's transactions
[03:19] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: i dont use sudo or gedit heh
[03:19] <zarck> rofl0r: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdx /media/cdrom
[03:19] <Bonez56> haven't had much luck with the forums or google :/ lots of conflicting info
[03:19] <rofl0r> thx zarck
[03:19] <Bonez56> hi, can someone please point me in the direction of a clear guide on how to join an Ubuntu PC to a Windows AD domain?
[03:19] <zarck> rofl0r: where hdx is replaced with your actuall cdrom device
[03:19] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: but anyway what should i be looking for in xorg.conf? im really new in all this X enviroment
[03:19] <kovztch> Hello yirimyah
[03:20] <Yirimyah> Hello.
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: the first command I gave was to backup your xorg.. always a good idea..
[03:20] <[GuS] > Bonjour les gens...
[03:20] <Yirimyah> Look, I was looking for information regarding resetting the repository lists
[03:20] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: yea i already did that, im editing xorg.conf now
[03:20] <Yirimyah> I appear to have stuffed it up
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> The second was to open xorg in an editor but not giving you perm to change it so you coupld copy it to the !pastebin
[03:21] <zarck> im getting crazy over usplash, it works flawlessly with the splashimages that comes with ubuntu, but when i try to generate my own all i get is a black screen and im using a 640x480 4bit png file as source
[03:21] <Bonez56> hi, can someone please point me in the direction of a clear guide on how to join an Ubuntu PC to a Windows AD domain?
[03:21] <Yirimyah> so if someone could give me the correct repositories, that would be great
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > Yirimyah
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !splash
[03:21] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[03:22] <Yirimyah> thanks.
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:22] <zarck> !usplash
[03:22] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:22] <ootput> evil_bunny: still alive?
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: sorry for the lag... may I pm you..
[03:22] <zarck> its the howto ive used... =(
[03:23] <TeePOG> sure Jack_Sparrow
[03:23] <ootput> evil_bunny: quality meatloaf got the better of me :)
[03:23] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: 157 lines in xorg.conf, want me to pastebin them all? :o
[03:23] <evil_bunny> ootput: alive :)
[03:23] <andresmujica> C0mp4Q.
[03:23] <evil_bunny> ootput: and enjoying ubuntu :D
[03:23] <raiXer> does anyone knows where gnome-session-properties saves it's configuration?  i want to be able to modify the startup programs by terminal
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: yes
[03:24] <zarck> if there where some error messages for it i would probalbly be able to solve it, but there isnt... everything seams to work, except i end up with a black screen =(
[03:24] <ootput> evil_bunny: yaay!
[03:24] <lazo1> hello guys
[03:24] <kishore> hi all
[03:24] <lazo1> I do have a question
[03:24] <ootput> fire away
[03:24] <tchung> hi
[03:24] <lazo1> how do I change the updating source list when I do update ubuntu
[03:25] <[GuS] > lazo1, you mean the repositories? from the sources.list?
[03:26] <evil_bunny> ootput: cant play mp3's ove from windows partition .. but i would guess i just have to set some rights
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> lazo1: you shouldnt need to
[03:26] <lazo1> you know that Ubuntu use some server to its updating and some of them have this # before the server name
[03:26] <[GuS] > aj
[03:26] <[GuS] > so? what do you want to do=?
[03:26] <[GuS] > add repositories?
[03:26] <danrez> how can I customize livecd setting ESSID, WEP key and DHCP automatically ??
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_bunny: do you get an error?
[03:27] <lazo1> I wanted to install rar but I couldnt at said that this souce have not this package
[03:27] <godfather_> guys ekiga it's too expensive
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> danrez: you could do it with a usb stick quite easilly
[03:27] <tchung> guys, I would like to install gvim... where can I find it?
[03:27] <godfather_> i've tried voiop stunt for win
[03:27] <b_52Centos> hi
[03:27] <[GuS] > lazo1, try to uncomment all sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <[GuS] > and do sudo apt-get update
[03:27] <b_52Centos> could some ine help with a ood stupid question
[03:27] <godfather_> is there a version for linux
[03:27] <lazo1> thats what I need thanks GuS
[03:28] <b_52Centos> i have installed a kubuntu
[03:28] <[GuS] > or add multiverse repositorie at the end:
[03:28] <[GuS] > deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[03:28] <danrez> Jack_Sparrow: maybe this solution isn't the better but i would like to know how.. is there any documentation about it ?
[03:28] <[GuS] > deb-src http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[03:28] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.ca/167870
[03:28] <b_52Centos> and can not get access to root account
[03:28] <Yirimyah> this is strange, I have reset the repositories list and I just get "connection refused" when I apt-get update
[03:28] <segosa> after installing fluxbox and x-window-system-core, startx just gives me a black screen, if i check tty1 there's no sign of an error message or anything having gone wrong, although it does say at the end "RADEON(0): Ok, leaving now...".. no idea what i could try next :/
[03:28] <benkong2> could someone give me a clue as to what's wrong with my network manager? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23210
[03:28] <[GuS] > any time lazo1
[03:28] <evil_bunny> Jack_Sparrow: Music player says "ths file is not an audio stream"
[03:29] <krpano> i have a silly question....im trying to change theFirefox shortcut on the bottom panel...but when i browse t some folder i cant see any icon to choose...why ?
[03:29] <benkong2> also gnome-keyring-manager never comes up asking for my password when trying to connect to wireless network with WEP
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> danrez: Ubuntu HAcks page 3... I am a little busy to walk you through all of it atm
[03:30] <lazo1> mate GuS I found the file but I dont know how to uncomment it ??
[03:30] <root_>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> danrez: Look for Ubuntu data persistent
[03:30] <Yirimyah> re my repository problem, I have reset the repositories list and I just get "connection refused" when I apt-get update
[03:30] <root_>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[03:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:30] <raiXer> does anyone knows where gnome-session-properties saves it's configuration?  i want to be able to modify the startup programs by terminal
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: Change line 102 to "nvidia"
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to get permission to change that file
[03:31] <Yirimyah> re my repository problem, I have reset the repositories list and I just get "connection refused" when I apt-get update. Any ideas?
[03:31] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: ...or just su - and nano the file manually :O
[03:31] <drbashir> how can I switch off the X server if I dont want to use it any more?
[03:32] <skizzo> anyone have any suggestions on a *good* ftp server that doesn't use the built-in *nix user accounts, and will allow me to set execute permissions by default?
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: I prefer gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  but do it any way you like..
[03:32] <lazo1> some one can tell me what is the command for uncomment # in sources.list?
[03:32] <ootput> Yirimyah: i don't know what you mean by 'reset' by I'm guessing that the syntax is wrong
[03:32] <Yirimyah> ootput: i just copypasted the one I got off source-o-matic
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lazo1: gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup)  is how I do it
[03:33] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps you can answer me why i always use my user password when using sudo, instead of the root password
[03:33] <Yirimyah> because it wouldn't connect and I assumed it was the repositories
[03:33] <ootput> evil_bunny: there could be some codec issues
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar:  there is no root password by default
[03:33] <Bicchi> i am running an ubuntu server. besides cron jobs, is there anything else that would start a maintenance process?
[03:34] <lazo1> I dont want to make backup
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: It is just a reminder for you to be carefl...
[03:34] <evil_bunny> ootput: in a forum i found i need gstreamer -ugly ... but cant ind that :)
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> careful
[03:34] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: i already did "sudo su -" and changed the root password
[03:34] <ootput> evil_bunny: I used easyubuntu to get most of the codecs required by my media files
[03:34] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: but still when i type sudo as user the root password wont work, only my own user password
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: I NEVER recommend that option
[03:34] <lazo1> I just wana edit the file sources.list at etc/apt/sources.list
[03:34] <skizzo> Bicchi: anacron, and atd are also schedulers
[03:35] <ootput> evil_bunny: you may need to de-comment a few sources.list entries
[03:35] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: yea but i dont like the idea of not being able to login as root on my own box
[03:35] <lazo1> but I cant edit the file just by open it in grahic interface
[03:35] <Bicchi> skizzo: are those in /etc
[03:35] <Yirimyah> so does anyone have any ideas? I had the bright idea of reinstalling synaptic, but apt-get can't reinstall it now, because it's broken too.
[03:35] <ootput> sudo su, sudo -s
[03:35] <skizzo> Bicchi: I don't know ;-)
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: Experienced users ..no problem...  all the new people from WIndows running around as root user.. big problem
[03:36] <skizzo> Bicchi: I don't see them in /etc in my install, but give me a second...
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> lazo1: gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab   <<<
[03:36] <DJGummikuh> woah
[03:36] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: now there i do agree :)
[03:36] <LajujKej> I am trying to install sypheed on dapper, but synaptic says there are things I need to install, but can't.  Can I fix this problem?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> lazo1: I always suggest a backup when giving the command to edit a file
[03:37] <ulfar> but i find it a "security" risk to have a user password to use the sudo command to make root commands
[03:37] <ulfar> brb, im going to reboob X, see if anything gets better
[03:37] <ulfar> forgot to start screen before starting irssi
[03:37] <DJGummikuh> eyequeue: I just saw you did a version on me :) how did you like what you saw? :)
[03:38] <lazo1> ok but when I wrote what you said I got this Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: :)
[03:38] <bluefox83> reboob x? lol
[03:38] <skizzo> Bicchi: /usr/sbin/anacron and /usr/sbin/atd
[03:38] <Yirimyah> So does anyone have any ideas?
[03:38] <DJGummikuh> 14 hours ago @ eyequeue
[03:38] <LajujKej> I am trying to install sypheed on dapper, but synaptic says there are things I need to install, but can't.  Can I fix this problem?
[03:38] <bluefox83> Yirimyah, hrm?
[03:38] <Bicchi> szizzo: i am looking for the job that updates the database for the locate command. it should be updatedb
[03:38] <Yirimyah> I can't reach the repositories.
[03:38] <zarck> no usplash gurus around?
[03:38] <ootput> reboob? sure, those Xeyes look a little unprofessional; any decent plastic surgeon will agree
[03:38] <benkong2> anyone help on a network-manager dapper issue?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: HAve you run Automatix or easyubuntu scripts?
[03:39] <Yirimyah> Automatix, yes
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: I am not suggesting you do.. just asking if you have?
[03:39] <Yirimyah> I have run automatix, yes
[03:39] <skizzo> Bicchi: /usr/bin/updatedb ?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: Gawd, I wish people would not do that..
[03:39] <mumbles-laptop> right how do i force ubuntu to install and not boot up the old install?
[03:39] <bluefox83> Yirimyah, go into system->administration-> software packages and make sure everything is copasetic.. you might need keys or something...
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: I suppose you did not bother with a backup first
[03:39] <Bicchi> szizzo: that's the program. i am looking for the script that calls it.
[03:40] <Yirimyah> Jack: No, not really
[03:40] <ootput> mumbles-laptop: what do you mean?
[03:40] <Yirimyah> bluefox: "software packages"?
[03:40] <ootput> mumbles-laptop: you're unable too boot from the bootable ubuntu images?
[03:40] <mumbles-laptop> ive had to reinstall windows due to a glitch
[03:40] <Yirimyah> you mean synaptic? I thought the problem was with that, so I tried to reinstall it
[03:40] <bluefox83> Yirimyah, scuse me, software properties
[03:40] <Yirimyah> ok
[03:40] <mumbles-laptop> and when i go to install the new virsion of ubuntu it loads up the old on e
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> People, People People, please do not use #Automatix... But if you insist, please make a backup.  There is no one in Automatix to help you when things go wrong..
[03:41] <ootput> mumbles-laptop: oh, so your ubuntu partition(s) is/are still intact?
[03:41] <mumbles-laptop> yeh
[03:41] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: you rock.
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I try
[03:41] <skizzo> Bicchi: give me a minute...
[03:41] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to upgrade to kubuntu edgy, but since more than 6 weeks it doesnt get any further because the package gsfonts-x11 cant be set up correctly - it says: usage error: unrecognized option\n Usage: update-fonts-dir DIRECTORY ...
[03:41] <ootput> Jack_Sparrow: i suppose you'll pimp easyubuntu next?
[03:41] <suppaman> hello
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> NO
[03:41] <bluefox83> mumbles-laptop, did you by any chance format the partition your old ubuntu installation was on?
[03:41] <suppaman> is anyone using PPC ?
[03:41] <Yirimyah> I do not have anything called software properties in admin
[03:41] <mumbles-laptop> ootput im getting an errer on ata stat/err when i boot from that though
[03:42] <bluefox83> easyubuntu? wtf as if ubuntu wasn't easy enough? O.o
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> The same goes for Easyubuntu... although it has gotten better, I feel the same about it.
[03:42] <Yirimyah> jack sparrow: is this your way of saying I'm stuffed?
[03:42] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: anyway thanks for the help, alot. it works alot better
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> np ulfar
[03:42] <ootput> mumbles-laptop: if it's still intact, you can re-install grub to mbr (use the livecd.) menu.list should then be populated by the OS' found on your system
[03:42] <ootput> fixmbr
[03:43] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: one more question perhaps, any ideas how i can get sudo to actually use the ROOT password instead of my user pass
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: We would be happy to help you install any of the things those scripts were designed to do for you
[03:43] <Yirimyah> Jack: I didn't know there was anything iffy about automatix
[03:43] <ootput> One thing i dislike about the easyubuntu package is the lack of documentation on the website
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: THat would take playing with users and groups and permissions..
[03:43] <bluefox83> ulfar, there's a reason it doesn't use the root password..if you used the root password your whole system would be vulnerable to attack ...just stick to sudo as-is
[03:44] <Yirimyah> jacksparrow: am I going to have to reinstall?
[03:44] <ootput> i.e, no "under the hood" info documenting manual installation of the packages that easyubuntu has to offer
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: it works 95% of the time.. sounds good until you realize 1 in 20 gets hosed
[03:44] <NsOmNiAc> anyone here played with the UltraSparc release of Ubuntu ?
[03:44] <bluefox83> as far as i'm concerned automatix is garbage, it's not even maintained anymore >.>
[03:44] <ulfar> bluefox83: alright. i didnt know that sudo worked that way, i thought it was supposed to use the root password
[03:44] <ootput> bluefox83: it isn't?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: You can untangle it.. but if you dont have a ton of time and effort into the install, yes I would reinstall.. then make a backup..
[03:44] <bluefox83> ulfar, noooooo
[03:44] <mumbles-laptop> ootput crapy ntl is playing up so i cant get a current live cd
[03:45] <ootput> mumbles-laptop: what's ntl?
[03:45] <ootput> oh, internet?
[03:45] <shpond> interest
[03:45] <Yirimyah> I doubt I have the skill to untangle.
[03:45] <bluefox83> ootput, no
[03:45] <mumbles-laptop> Oompa yeh interent
[03:45] <Yirimyah> Oh well, thanks.
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: : tar -cvpzlf /backup.tgz --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz /
[03:45] <mumbles-laptop> or as it currentley stands crappy internet
[03:45] <ravenous> there's supposed to be no root password set, so its that much harder for someone to get superuser
[03:45] <ootput> mumbles-laptop: heh
[03:45] <Zeekius> does the live cd require a reboot, or can it run in kind of a virtual mode?
[03:45] <mumbles-laptop> keeps on restarting evey 20 mins or so
[03:46] <bluefox83> Zeekius, reboot
[03:46] <Yirimyah> thx jack
[03:46] <ootput> ravenous: not really.. it's to prevent users (who fail to realise that they're working as root) from deleting the entire system
[03:46] <NsOmNiAc> take that as a no
[03:46] <mumbles-laptop> i might have to get my old ubuntu cds
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: Sorry I dont have time to help you untangle it. but a reinstall is not a bad idea
[03:46] <ravenous> ootput: thats not the only reason
[03:47] <ootput> ravenous: but it's the most obvious ;)
[03:47] <Yirimyah> jack: That's okay, there was just some complicated shit with the ethernet
[03:47] <Yirimyah> oh well, I won't do it next time
[03:47] <ootput> ravenous: and yeah, i've read countless posts on slashdot regarding the operating procedures of both ubuntu and lindows
[03:47] <ravenous> ootput: for a new user, maybe, but there are security risks invovled with having active root accounts as well
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: what card
[03:47] <mumbles-laptop> ootput yeh im getting an errer in
[03:47] <mumbles-laptop> starting enterprise volume system s
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Yirimyah: Even the most difficult can use ndiswrapper
[03:47] <Yirimyah> jack: Can't remember, it's an LG M1 laptop
[03:47] <Yirimyah> but it's ok
[03:48] <skoenman> is there anybody who can help me i need a Point Of Sale System for ubuntu????
[03:48] <Yirimyah> I still have scripts lying around
[03:48] <Yirimyah> on cds
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> skoenman: write one.
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Good..
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> skoenman: or hire someone, to write one.
[03:48] <bluefox83> skoenman, point fo sale system? as in a cashregister system?
[03:48] <bluefox83> *of
[03:48] <skoenman> yeah could work but i thought there was one already
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> fyre... glad to see you...   people.. back in 10
[03:49] <mathieu> skoenman: did you try google?
[03:49] <skoenman> yeah but a little stock control also
[03:49] <ootput> mumbles-laptop: sorry, a bit distracted.. my pup is chewing the hell out of my pillow covers
[03:49] <skoenman> yeah
[03:49] <skoenman> but mabe you guys can help
[03:49] <skoenman> found that banana POS system
[03:49] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: what group does a new user have to be in to be able to use sudo ?
[03:49] <garath> hello
[03:50] <javiolo> hi
[03:50] <bluefox83> ulfar, admin
[03:50] <ootput> ulfar: admin
[03:50] <javiolo> whats the app that controls the volume botton in my keryboard ?
[03:50] <skoenman> but when i do the ./config it says faild sanity???
[03:50] <garath> I' post gentoo user and today I instaled ubuntu
[03:50] <M_A_K> When using dd, does it matter if the partitions already exist on the destination drive?  or should the drive be completely clean? or will dd repartition anyway?
[03:50] <bluefox83> javiolo, there are two programs, one that reads the input of your media keyboard, and another one that plays the music
[03:50] <garath> but I face a realy problematic situation
[03:50] <ootput> garath: there are many ex-gentoo users here
[03:51] <javiolo> bluefox83 Im using a mac keyboard
[03:51] <suppaman> javiolo: me too
[03:51] <skizzo> Bicchi: I think I may have found it...
[03:51] <bluefox83> javiolo, thta shouldn't matter...much
[03:51] <bluefox83> &that
[03:51] <javiolo> when I click on volume controls only works on gnome, but not on other wm like fluxbox
[03:51] <garath> ootput: I can't access internet though I have a live connection
[03:51] <javiolo> Id like to know what app its
[03:52] <skizzo> Bicchi: /etc/cron.daily/slocate runs updatedb
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> dd..if ... hda   of ... hdb   = drive      if...hda1    of .... hda2   = partition
[03:52] <bluefox83> that's cus volume control is a gnome application
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> garath: can you ping ip addresses?
[03:52] <javiolo> suppaman you use ubuntu ?
[03:52] <garath> yep I cant - and the installer program can acess internet
[03:52] <ootput> garath: does your particular ethernet card require arguments passed to it's corresponding module?
[03:52] <javiolo> sorry meant gnome :P
[03:52] <bluefox83> afk
[03:52] <suppaman> javiolo: not really, I'm installing a kubuntu just now
[03:52] <skizzo> Bicchi: on, I assume, a daily basis ;-p
[03:52] <Bicchi> skizzo: extrange, i do not have an slocate on mine
[03:52] <garath> also netstat and every command like program works
[03:53] <suppaman> javiolo: but I'm ircing from OS X
[03:53] <ootput> garath: Control-F2, <enter>, netstat -rn
[03:53] <ootput> garath: and ifconfig -a while you're at it
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> M_A_K: dd is a sledgehammer of a tool... please read up and know what you are doing...  it is NOT forgiving when it comes to your commands
[03:53] <garath> I know - all working properly
[03:54] <skizzo> Bicchi: Hrm... so, what's going on? something's running updatedb, and you don't want it to?
[03:54] <M_A_K> Jack_Sparros : all  Idid (And I spend much time reading many posts etc.) was dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb  in an attempt to clone a hd.
[03:54] <ootput> garath: is the apt-repository in /target/etc/apt/sources.list up?
[03:54] <M_A_K> *Sparrow... sorry
[03:55] <Bicchi> skizzo: nevermind , in mind. in ubuntu server its called /etc/cron.daily/find
[03:55] <garath> never heard about apt-reposiroty (it is possible I used to onother name
[03:55] <Bicchi> skizzo: i wasn't sure what was eating up all the memory until i found that command.
[03:55] <Zeekius> M_A_K, and did it work?
[03:55] <lhds> is there a windows media player plugin for mozilla?
[03:55] <M_A_K> Not sure yet.  Still working
[03:56] <skizzo> Bicchi: Ah, I see - yeah, poking around, looks like updatedb "causes a lot of IO" ;-)
[03:56] <Zeekius> Heh.  Are they exactly the same drives?
[03:56] <M_A_K> Yse they are.
[03:56] <mumbles-laptop> bugger live cd fails on starting enterprise volume managment system as well :(
[03:56] <M_A_K> Same copmuters.
[03:56] <javiolo> what app should I run when I start for example fluxbox to have my volume keyboard control working ??
[03:56] <javiolo> like in gnome
[03:56] <Zeekius> Using the sda/sdb should encompass the entire disk, so it should copy the partition label, I do believe.
[03:57] <suppaman> bye
[03:57] <lhds> i need a plugin to run windows media player files inside mozilla where can i find one?
[03:57] <Zeekius> Not sure which blocksize it uses by default, so that may impact the time it takes...
[03:58] <M_A_K> I used bs=100000
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> lhds: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:58] <lhds> i have them all fyrestitit
[03:58] <lhds> but it puts a puzzlelike image sayying plugin missing in netscape
[03:59] <garath> ca someone help me find why I have network and ping yet I cant access internet in firefox and gaim?
[03:59] <skizzo> Can anyone suggest a good ftp daemon? I need something that will set default permissions to allow execution, and I also need to be able to connect to the server without setting up a bunch of virtual hosts. It'd also be nice if it didn't use the built in Linux accounts
[03:59] <ikonia> chaps, does anyone know how big the ubuntu repo is
[03:59] <ikonia> if I wanted to mirror it
[03:59] <ikonia> roughly
[03:59] <ikonia> to keep a local copy
[03:59] <Zeekius> garath, http://www.proftpd.org/
[04:00] <lhds> thanx man its in the page you sent me
[04:00] <Sikon> vsftpd is the standard Ubuntu FTP server
[04:00] <Sikon> although you can get proftpd from universe
[04:00] <Sikon> just type "ftpd" into the search box on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:01] <Sikon> where can I find a keyboard without the Windows key?
[04:01] <Bicchi> skizzo: i am running vsftp i do not know if it does what you want. but to change the default permittions i think its done with the umask command when on logs in.
[04:01] <javiolo> what app should I run when I start for example fluxbox to have my volume keyboard control working ??
[04:02] <garath> ca someone help me find why I have network and ping yet I cant access internet in firefox and gaim?
[04:02] <Flamekebab> any ideas why I can mount a hard disk as /media/data-disk, but when I reboot it won't stay?
[04:02] <sethk> garath, usually that means your routing is good but your DNS isn't working
[04:02] <sethk> garath, I'm on my way out, can't help right now, but check your dns
[04:03] <ulfar> so far im liking ubuntu, still a few things unclear
[04:03] <ulfar> http://pastebin.ca/167893
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: put this in the address line of firefox  216.239.39.99
[04:03] <TokenBad> anyone know why after a crash...my slave drive is read only?
[04:03] <TokenBad> and how to fix it?
[04:03] <ulfar> like this, why cant i get gcc or make to be installed ?
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !gcc
[04:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:03] <ravenous> ulfar: install the build-essential package
[04:04] <skizzo> Bicchi: I was using proftpd, but the umask command doesn't allow me to set execute permissions on the files - they're always rw, but no x :-\ Can you set umack to rwx? (I thought the umask equivalent was 000, but it's not setting permissions like that on my ftp server)
[04:04] <Sikon> !keyboard
[04:04] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[04:04] <phoenix_036> hey does anyone know why I cant edit my etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common ? can it be done via a terminal?
[04:04] <willnapier>  I'm trying to format my usb key using fdisk. 'mount' says it is not mounted. 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda' gives 'unable to open /dev/sda. sudo fdisk /mnt/usb_key gives the same. It is down as sda1 in fstab so i tried that too.
[04:04] <Flamekebab> any suggestions for my mounting problem?
[04:04] <constantine-xvi_> anyone know how to "lock" a package to prevent it from upgrading?
[04:05] <ravenous> constantine-xvi_: its right in the synaptic menu, lock package
[04:05] <rambo3> see man apt
[04:05] <mumbles-laptop> crapy live cd
[04:05] <constantine-xvi_> ah
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> or junk laptop
[04:05] <constantine-xvi_> dont use synaptic very often
[04:05] <ulfar> ravenous: build-essential package ?
[04:05] <ravenous> constantine-xvi_: under package, 'lock version'
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mumbles-laptop:  WHat have you tried so far
[04:06] <Bicchi> skizzo: is the umask going to be the same for every user including root?
[04:06] <rambo3> constantine-xvi_, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version
[04:06] <constantine-xvi_> saw it
[04:06] <ravenous> ulfar: yes, includes make, gcc, and the like
[04:06] <ravenous> ulfar: hence the name ;)
[04:06] <phoenix_036> does anybody know? or should i just repeat my question :D
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> do you get an error?
[04:06] <constantine-xvi_> perhaps a better fix, does anyone know how to fix wpasupplicant's problems with ndiswrapper?
[04:07] <ulfar> ravenous: :) so, whats it called in the apt-cache ?
[04:07] <skizzo> Bicchi: yeah, I think so - I'm not actually going to have root/other linux user logins on the ftp server - I want to setup virtual accounts on the ftp server itself
[04:07] <KillerDemon> phoenix_036, use SUDO
[04:07] <ravenous> ulfar: ... build-essential
[04:07] <mumbles-laptop> Jack_Sparrow reisntall and live cd both stop working
[04:07] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: this is right - I can get to the google like this - how do I need to configure my dns so it my work?
[04:07] <phoenix_036> KillerDemon: thats what I thought, thanks... Im a complete newbie in Linux
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: Ok, so that did work right.. took you to google?
[04:08] <KillerDemon> :)
[04:08] <ulfar> ravenous: same error as usual
[04:08] <garath> yep
[04:08] <ulfar> ravenous: "Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[04:08] <ravenous> ulfar: you've got some underlying problem them, because its in the main ubuntu repo
[04:08] <KillerDemon> @Package build-essential
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mumbles-laptop: Do you get to the first start or install screen?
[04:08] <ravenous> !info build-essential
[04:08] <Bicchi> skizzo: perhaps you can have umask run from script inside /etc/init.d . Do a "man umask" to see the appropriate format to use
[04:08] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:08] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: yes I got google
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mumbles-laptop: Did you let the cd do its' self test?  Did you watch for any errors?
[04:09] <TokenBad> I have the readonly drive unmounted and ran fsck on it...but when finished it says left drive unchanged...any idea why?
[04:09] <ulfar> ravenous: fleah and how would one solve those issues?
[04:09] <phoenix_036> sudo /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common   <--- whats missing, hahaha
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: are you using a router?
[04:09] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[04:09] <KillerDemon> phoenix_036, a editor
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> phoenix  gksudo gedit...
[04:09] <phoenix_036> KillerDemon: oh...
[04:09] <ravenous> ulfar: no idea, have you monkeyed with your sources.list or anything? your running dapper?
[04:09] <Ge2X> hey is this a bug: i tried to access a ftp folder with nautilus and it crashed
[04:09] <Ge2X> ?
[04:09] <phoenix_036> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[04:09] <KillerDemon> phoenix_036, sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:10] <ravenous> ulfar: and please tell me you didnt run any autoinstall scripts
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> KillerDemon: gedit should be used with gksudo...
[04:10] <Zeekius> freaky.  I have the cd distro running in a vmware session, using the iso.... :)
[04:10] <skizzo> Bicchi: hm... that might work...
[04:10] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[04:10] <KillerDemon> Jack_Sparrow it works with sudo too up here, whats the difference?
[04:10] <mumbles-laptop> Jack_Sparrow yeh
[04:10] <Ge2X> hey is this a bug: i tried to access a ftp folder with nautilus and it crashed
[04:10] <inc|freaky> ^^
[04:10] <ulfar> ravenous: weeeell, i did run one autoinstall script
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: did you do anything about port forwarding your router?
[04:10] <mumbles-laptop> no errers that i should ce
[04:10] <mumbles-laptop> see
[04:10] <inc|freaky> it keeps crashing for me too
[04:10] <ravenous> ulfar: which one?
[04:10] <ulfar> ravenous: the vmware install.pl
[04:11] <inc|freaky> all the ftp progs crash all the time i have no idea why
[04:11] <Ge2X> i didnt try any others except nautilus
[04:11] <ulfar> ravenous: im currently stuck in that install, since the script is asking me where make is and will ask me for gcc later on
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: what router...  put 192.168.1.1 into firefox...
[04:11] <Zeekius> heh, pretty cool...
[04:11] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: only 22 for ssh the ohters worked fine untill now
[04:11] <mp_> Please help me .. It's soo rare that I can get into my inbox in Gmail.. What can be wrong?? While reading the page after logon it just stalls and never actually reach the inbox... :/
[04:11] <Bicchi> skizzo: create a shell script inside the folder with the umask command. make sure to set it executable and the first line to contain the #! /bin/sh command
[04:11] <ravenous> ulfar: and your running dapper? have you edited the sources.list at all?
[04:11] <ulfar> ravenous: dapper? and no i havent edited sources.list
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: It did work and now does not work?
[04:12] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: I can get to my router twith the fire fox
[04:12] <KillerDemon> !info gksudo
[04:12] <ubotu> Package gksudo does not exist in any distro I know
[04:12] <Beawolfe> Help for a noob if possible............How do I install a tar.gz file instead of a .deb file that I have d/lled?
[04:12] <Beawolfe> I am running Dapper Drake
[04:12] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: in the gentoo it workd fine, and in windows
[04:12] <ikonia> Beawolfe you don't want to
[04:12] <KillerDemon> Beawolfe, unpack it and follow instructions
[04:12] <ikonia> why break your package manamgnet
[04:12] <ikonia> managment
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Beawolfe: what are you trying to install... any place that supplies software also supplies info on how to install it, but it is beast to pull from std repos
[04:13] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: when I use 192.168.123.254 I can get to my router an 10.0.0.138 to my adsl modem
[04:13] <ravenous> ulfar: what are you trying to install it with, apt-get install?
[04:13] <mp_> Gmail access problem - anybody who know the problem?
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: google your router model and port forwarding
[04:14] <ulfar> ravenous: vmware? im only using the sudo /home/user/vmware/vmware.install.pl
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: one sec..
[04:14] <TokenBad> I have the readonly drive unmounted and ran fsck on it...but when finished it says left drive unchanged...any idea why?
[04:14] <ravenous> ulfar: no not vmware, you've got to deal with getting build-essential on the machine before you can even start to worry about that
[04:14] <Beawolfe> I am trying to install par2 utility and unrar utility
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: I am having a complete brain fart here...  I am trying to think of the file with your dns info...
[04:15] <ravenous> Beawolfe: both are in the repositories
[04:15] <nataraj_> where are the packages i download cached? /usr/...
[04:15] <Zeekius> nuts, I did not make my vmware partition big enough...
[04:15] <ulfar> ravenous: yeah but it doesnt seem like apt-get is working very well for me, and yes i was using the install option
[04:16] <ravenous> ulfar: are you just commandline right now or are you using a gui as well?
[04:16] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: in the network-wizard it gives me dns of my router an my modem
[04:16] <godfather> anyone from uk?
[04:17] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: meybe I need to add one for my suplier?
[04:17] <Flamekebab> godfather, yep
[04:17] <Flamekebab> hey guys, any suggestions on how to get a new hard disk to stay mounted when I reboot?
[04:17] <jrib> nataraj_: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: System->Administration->Networking, DNS-tab
[04:18] <Flamekebab> godfather, did you have a question?
[04:18] <Beawolfe> ravenous I have looked for them but to no avail.....I guess I am not looking in the right place.............like I said I am very new to linux
[04:18] <ulfar> ravenous: http://pastebin.ca/167900
[04:18] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: what about it? I have there the router ip and the modem ip
[04:18] <odla> where can i get w32codecs?  i've looked on the restrictedformats website but that link seems to be dead
[04:18] <ravenous> Beawolfe: have you added the universe and multiverse repositories? thats where they are
[04:18] <Halpo> anyone know why nautilus would show preview thumbnails for one folder of video files and not another -> my settings are set for files < 1 GB
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: add 68.94.156.1  and 157.1
[04:18] <Beawolfe> ravenous  how do I add them?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> just for a test
[04:18] <jrib> Halpo: do they use the same codec?
[04:18] <brk3> hi, i cant get flash working in firefox to use with youtube.. what should be the way to get it working?
[04:19] <Halpo> jrib: yes
[04:19] <ravenous> !repositories > Beawolfe
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <javiolo> what app should I run when I start for example fluxbox to have my volume keyboard control working ??
[04:19] <ravenous> Beawolfe: follow the link ubotu just sent you
[04:19] <jrib> !flash > brk3
[04:19] <nataraj_> jrib: thanks
[04:19] <brk3> jrib: ?
[04:19] <grol> brk3 its easy with sudo apt get flash
[04:19] <jrib> Halpo: not sure then, try deleting ~/.thumbnails and viewing the folder again
[04:20] <jrib> brk3: (check your private messages)
[04:20] <brk3> grol: i have the flash package installed but it doesnt seem to be working
[04:20] <jrib> brk3: what happens?
[04:20] <ulfar> ravenous: just remembered that i also ran an install script for flash :o, but i dont see why apt-get should stop working
[04:20] <grol> brk3: try reinstall firefox
[04:20] <nataraj_> jrib: what does the partial dir. hold? pckges. whose dependancies are not fulfilled?
[04:21] <ravenous> ulfar: have you done a reboot recently?
[04:21] <ulfar> ravenous: neg
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> odla:  I just typed in terminal: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libakode2-mpeg   and it works fine
[04:21] <jrib> nataraj_: not sure, maybe packages taht haven't fully downloaded?
[04:21] <nataraj_> maybe..
[04:22] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: do you have any idea whats going on in my box? :)
[04:22] <ravenous> ulfar: i'd try it and see if it works, i mean if you havent messed with your sources.list it should be easy as pie
[04:22] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: some sites working and some sites not
[04:22] <Caplain> im having issues starting the livecd with my sata enabled, should i run fsck on my hdd?
[04:22] <Halpo> jrib: actually i was incorrect, one folder most are XviD and one folder most are DivX...the DivX folder doesnt show preview thumbs
[04:22] <jrib> !seveas > odla
[04:22] <grol> how do i install .rpm on ubuntu?
[04:22] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: reallifecomic.com and www.walla.co.il working fine yet google.com and reallifecomics.com not working
[04:23] <jrib> grol: you try to avoid doing so, as a last resort you cna use alien.  But really, you should use the repos or look for an ubuntu deb or compile from source
[04:23] <ravenous> grol: its a bad idea, you should look for a .deb
[04:23] <jrib> odla: seveas' repos have w32codecs
[04:24] <grol> but the IBM client access only distributed in .rpm, i guess
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: pull your other codes and only leave the two I gave just for a quick test
[04:24] <ravenous> grol: like jrib said, you can possibly use 'alien' to convert it then
[04:25] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: u mean the other ip's?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: what script did you run?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: yes
[04:26] <Caplain> is there a way to show the progress of a file with cp?
[04:26] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: i ran the install script for flash (firefox) and i was in mid-install of vmvare
[04:26] <nataraj_> can i run xfce-panel applets on the gnome-panel?
[04:26] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: then vmware-config.pl asks me where make is, and i tried to install make but that wasnt working, so ravenous suggested using the build-essential package, wich apparently is not working either
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: I would never try to install two things at once.. just seems like a potential problem
[04:27] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: everything is working fine and fast
[04:27] <ravenous> Jack_Sparrow: ulfar's getting that nasty 'no installation candidate' on installing build-essential
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: then great
[04:27] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: (sorry my computer in the next room so I'm running here and there)
[04:27] <garath> Jack_Sparrow: thank you very mutch
[04:27] <ulfar> Jack_Sparrow: i installed the flash script first, not both at the same time
[04:27] <garath> much
[04:28] <ravenous> Caplain: cp -v maybe?
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> garath: Sorry I am a little frantic this morning... lots of people needing help
[04:28] <garath> that's ok - it is good I did't ask you about the problems I had on my gentoo
[04:28] <garath> :)
[04:28] <garath> have a nice day
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> you too
[04:29] <garath> my brother buggin me to step off the comp
[04:29] <Caplain> okay
[04:29] <garath> bye and thanks again everyone
[04:29] <pluma> Somehow my clock is always off. It seems to go faster than it should. Setting it to sync with timeservers didn't help either, because apparently it only syncs every couple of hours.
 I followed the link but it doesn't tell me how to add those repositories
[04:30] <Subhuman> pluma, your fsb must be wrong then
[04:30] <TokenBad> I have the readonly drive unmounted and ran fsck on it...but when finished it says left drive unchanged...any idea why?
[04:30] <Subhuman> its based off your cpu clock
[04:30] <ulfar> even this doesnt turn up any results, root@guru:~# apt-cache search build-essential
[04:30] <pluma> Subhuman, what is a fsb and how do I fix it?
[04:30] <jrib> ulfar: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:30] <ravenous> ulfar: your sources.list is messed up or something then
[04:30] <raf_> to run NESSUS ..do i need just the nessus client? or the nessus server as well?
[04:30] <ravenous> Beawolfe: yeah it does hang on
[04:31] <Caplain> how do i configure ubuntu for hyperthreading?
[04:31] <ravenous> !repos > ravenous
[04:31] <JFreakCapo> hello everybody, i need help, i install ubuntu but my windows don't boot, then re-install windows, but now muy ubuntu don't boot, can i re-install just grub from de ubuntu's cd please i'm newbie
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot
[04:31] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:31] <jrib> !grub > JFreakCapo
[04:31] <raf_> too many ppl in here
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[04:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:31] <raf_> ughh
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry... should have made that to him
[04:31] <chungaroo> I'm trying to upgrade my laptop's hd from a 30gb to a 80 or 100. if i use mondo to create backup disks of my current harddrive, would it only make a 30 gb partition on the new hd, leaving the rest unpartitioned? or would it fill it all up?
[04:32] <ravenous> Beawolfe: right here is step by step, from the link on that page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: Windows has a thing about being the first os on the first partition.. is that where windows is now?
[04:33] <ulfar> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23221
[04:33] <ulfar> ravenous: you might want to take a look at that aswell, if you find the time
[04:33] <ravenous> sure
[04:34] <linnuxxy> i have one SATA hard disk.. booting from it... 1 IDE hard disk ... and IDE CDROM.... i had installed ubuntu 6.06 server... i cant mount the partitions in the IDE Hard disk... i have similar problem with Debian and CentOS...  but all work fine in XP... is it a linux problem? and how can i fix it up??
[04:34] <jrib> ulfar: dapper main is commented, uncomment and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:34] <Rico> !MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MountingWindowsPartitions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <skunkworks> I was in here yesterday wondering about a bluetooth issue.  it ended up being the bluetooth usb adaptor.  I bought a different brand and it worked.
[04:34] <Rico> hmm
[04:34] <ravenous> ulfar: listen to jrib he's right, somehow your main repo got commented out thats why you cant find it
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Rico: did you need help with mounting those
[04:35] <pluma> Subhuman, what is a fsb and how do I fix it?
[04:35] <Rico> Jack_Sparrow: no, trying to send to linnuxxy
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ulfar: Yes, listen to jrib, he is correct
[04:35] <JFreakCapo> no my windows isn't in the firs partition, ubuntu is in the first partition
[04:35] <Subhuman> pluma, i dont think you can fix it.
[04:35] <ravenous> ulfar: you might want to uncomment universe and multiverse as well while your at it to have access to -alot- more applications
[04:35] <Subhuman> im honestly not sure, but your clock is worked out by the hardware, theres nothing you can do in ubuntu to fix it.
[04:35] <javiolo> what app should I run when I start for example fluxbox to have my volume keyboard control working ??
[04:35] <pluma> Subhuman, you mean to tell me there is no way to stop my clock from being to fast other than to buy a new CPU or mainboard?
[04:36] <Rico> If you install ubuntu with a manual partition layout, it allows you to specify mount points for all of your windows partitions through an interface rather than fstab
[04:36] <Rico> pity that's the only way to get to it
[04:36] <ulfar> hmm so the top lines were the problem ?
[04:36] <Subhuman> pluma, im not sure, you might be able to fix it in the bios.
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: SInce there has been little custom config of Windows, I would strongly suggest you put it as sda1 or hda1
[04:36] <Subhuman> have a look on google for people with a similar problem, there may be a solution for it.
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> linnuxxy: are you running livecd?
[04:37] <zeet^^> hi, i have some troubles with icmp
[04:37] <linnuxxy> Jack_Sparrow: No... install ..ubuntu 6.06 server
[04:37] <jonh_wendell> Hi folks. I have a directory with lots of wallpapers. Is there any way to share it with all users on my machine? I want gnome-background-properties shows all pictures in that folder, to all users...
[04:37] <znh> Hello.
[04:38] <znh> What is that Xorg 3D Acceleration env called?
 then i have to re-install again ubuntu and linux, and re-partitioning my disk right ?
[04:38] <znh> Compaz?
[04:38] <jrib> jonh_wendell: do you know about linux permissions?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> linnuxxy: Ok, i have noever used it..
[04:38] <JFreakCapo> i meen ubuntu and windows
[04:38] <M_A_K> I have been running dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=100000 for almost 2 hours now.  The HD is 160 GB Sata.  How do I know if it is actually working or if it hung up?
[04:38] <jonh_wendell> jrib: yes
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: YEs, sorry, but I am trying to save you future headaches
[04:38] <justin_> Question, when using the Ubuntu liveCD where exactly is all the swap going ? - is it being placed on my XUbuntu /swap files?
[04:38] <znh> M_A_K, run 'top'
[04:38] <|Wolverine|> anyone on enlightenment?
[04:38] <zeet^^> i have some troubles with icmp, anyone can help me ? iptables are blocking traceroute replies, so im searching the rule that is doing that
[04:38] <znh> |Wolverine|, e17? yes
[04:39] <jrib> jonh_wendell: just give everyone read permission to the directory, should work
[04:39] <M_A_K> Ok. Thanx
[04:39] <ulfar> thanks jrib, Jack_Sparrow and ravenous, once again :o
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:39] <jrib> ulfar: np
[04:39] <ravenous> no prob
 relly thks a lot
[04:39] <dwrob> I just upgraded to Edgy and there seems to be no x86 SMP kernel image there. Is this something that will show up in a little while?
[04:39] <TokenBad> I have the readonly drive unmounted and ran fsck on it...but when finished it says left drive unchanged...any idea why?
[04:40] <zeet^^> i have some troubles with icmp, iptables are blocking traceroute replies, so im searching the rule that is doing that. anyone can help me ?
 i gonna do just cause ubuntu rules :D
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: please come back with questions.. especially before EVERY trying automatix or easyubuntu scripts
[04:40] <ravenous> dwrob: see #ubuntu+1 , the edgy channel
[04:40] <M_A_K> SO since the %CPU and %MEM are chaning, it is still working?
[04:40] <dwrob> ravenous: thanks very much
[04:40] <ravenous> np
[04:40] <jonh_wendell> jrib: yes, i know that, I want the gnome-background-properties list all picures in that folder, with no intervention by user
 thks
[04:40] <zeet^^> can someone help me please ??
[04:41] <M_A_K> Is there any way to find out the progress of the cloning?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: Any time...
[04:41] <mar_cus> I've got problem with cups, why can't I log in on localhost:631?
[04:41] <chantanito> hello..
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> M_A_K: be patient.. no there is no feedback with dd
[04:41] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?
[04:41] <M_A_K> Ok.
[04:41] <chantanito> does anybody here has tried to run mupen64?
[04:41] <dlew> Hi.  Does anyone know the whereabouts of the GPG key for PLF packages?  I installed one, but it's not the right one -- doesn't satisify apt.
[04:41] <M_A_K> Is there any way to calculate how long it *should* take to clone a 160GB HD?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> M_A_K: I am thinking an hour or so
[04:42] <mar_cus> yes
[04:42] <M_A_K> Been running about 1.75 hrs already
[04:42] <Neo8750> anyone one else haveing problems downloading packages from us mirror??
[04:42] <gomek> Hey, I created a custom Ubuntu Live CD, but for some reason I am now required to input a password for sudo.  What do I do to get rid of that?
[04:42] <zeet^^> i have some troubles with icmp, iptables are blocking traceroute replies, so im searching the rule that is doing that. anyone can help me please ???
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> M_A_K: Go to lunch.. Please dont interrupt it..
[04:43] <M_A_K> I do not plan to interrupt it.  Just wanted to know how long to expect roughly.  Thanks.
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> M_A_K: Lots of factors..
[04:43] <gomek> Anyone have any clue?
[04:43] <M_A_K> Gatcha.
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> I would expect it to be done soon
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[04:44] <jrib> jonh_wendell: checkout ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml, that /seems/ to be the file it uses
 Thanx a million ! I have it done now
[04:44] <jonh_wendell> jrib: yes, i know that. i'm looking for a global place where to put the images
 this noob may learn yet!
[04:44] <ravenous> Beawolfe: you find par2/unrar and everything now?
[04:45] <AlexC> gomek, you always are suppose to enter a password, that's the point of Sudo
[04:45] <jrib> jonh_wendell: you can put them anywhere really, but default seems to be /usr/share/backgrounds/
 YUP!
[04:45] <ravenous> Beawolfe: awesome ;)
[04:45] <gomek> alexc: on the live CD?  O.o  Doesn't do that on the normal one...
[04:46] <AlexC> gomek, woops didn't see the Live part, not sure
[04:46] <javiolo> what app should I run when I start for example fluxbox to have my volume keyboard control working ??
[04:46] <zeet^^> i have some troubles with icmp, iptables are blocking traceroute replies, so im searching the rule that is doing that. anyone can help me please ??
 alot of the things I have been looking to add like avi support and unrar and par2 are all there now! THANX again
[04:46] <ravenous> Beawolfe: no problem, yeah enabling those really opens alot more doors software wise
[04:46] <jonh_wendell> jrib:  I did it. What a mean is: Can gnome-background-properties automatically list the pictures in a global folder?
 YUP
[04:47] <ulfar> where does ubuntu store kernel headers? usually in /usr/src/linux/include ?
[04:48] <Caplain> the disk manager wont load but i can see all drives with cfdisk, what to do?
[04:48] <M_A_K> When looking at the output from top, is the time listed in the time column (7:15.38) really 7 minutes 15 seconds?
[04:48] <jrib> jonh_wendell: not afaik, that's why I think you will have to use backgrounds.xml
[04:48] <Runix> hi
[04:48] <gomek> ulfar:  I think you have to install the header files.
[04:48] <Runix> i would like to contact Mark
[04:48] <AlexC> M_A_K, 7 hours 15 mins and 38 seconds maybe?
[04:49] <M_A_K> Cant be.  The computer has not been on for that long.  The process dd has a time of 7:15.38
[04:49] <ulfar> gomek: when i use apt-get install linux-kernel-headers it says that its already the newest version
[04:49] <Toaster> How can I manage portforwards with Webmin ?
[04:50] <|Wolverine|> anyone here on elightenment?
[04:50] <reighben> hi guys! is there a program or utility in ubuntu that's like the check disk utility in windows that scans hard drives and fixes errors? sorry guys newbie here
[04:50] <jrib> jonh_wendell: wait, google comes to the rescue: http://community.livejournal.com/ubuntu_users/120856.html
[04:50] <ravenous> |Wolverine|: yeah, 17
[04:50] <Runix> i would like to do a little interview to chief programmer of ubuntu
[04:50] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?
[04:51] <gomek> ulfar: you can always check the "installed files" part in synaptic
[04:51] <dlew> reighben: That's not really required for any of Linux's standard filesystems.
[04:51] <jrib> jonh_wendell: that first method using /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/ seems better than editing every users' personal file
[04:51] <gomek> ulfar: unfortunately i don't remember off the top of my head where it's installed =\
[04:51] <reighben> hi guys! is there a program or utility in ubuntu that's like the check disk utility in windows that scans hard drives and fixes errors? sorry guys newbie here
[04:51] <jsr> Has anyone experienced installation problems with ubuntu-6.01.1-server.i386? when I select language and location I just get a blue screen with the bottom line white :| also tried desktop-version, but there the installation hangs when I'm suppose to select keyboard type. HW: HP Proliant DL320 (also tried several keyboards) Anyone have a clue?
[04:51] <Rico> reighben: fsck
[04:52] <reighben> oh ty!
[04:52] <ulfar> gomek: in synaptic ?
[04:52] <jonh_wendell> jrib: yes, thank you!
[04:52] <Rico> reighben: i'm pretty sure ubuntu checks disks every 50 boots or so automatically
[04:52] <fatbrain> Anyone had a problem sound problem not hearing mic-in output thourgh the S/PDIF?
[04:53] <reighben> thanks..
[04:53] <ravenous> 30 i think
[04:53] <reighben> umm.. do you guys now if linspire is better than ubuntu?
[04:53] <mathieu> reighben: it's called 'fsck'
[04:53] <Rico> yeah, far better
[04:53] <gomek> ulfar:  you're using a default installation of ubuntu, correct?
[04:54] <ravenous> reighben: do you think we'd honestly say it was? we're in #ubuntu for a reason
[04:54] <Runix> Linspire is Debian like Ubuntu
[04:54] <reighben> sorry
[04:54] <reighben> anyway thanks
[04:55] <Tat1> Hey, if I bork my windows partition when trying to set up partitions for ubuntu using the gnome partition editor, am I SOL or is it possible to recover that data?
[04:55] <Rico> lol he's quit to join #linspire no doub
[04:55] <Rico> t
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Freespire is the Free Linspire.. and compared to ubuntu.. Lin/Freespire - suck sin many ways
[04:55] <|Wolverine|> Rico: nope he left LOL
[04:55] <Rico> Tatl: if you're resizing windows partitions, you may lose data. just adding partitions is harmless.
[04:55] <didobuntu> Hello all .. Any one has suceeded to install the sound for an ALC882 realtek chipset ?
[04:55] <Tat1> ah ok, that's what happened
[04:56] <Tat1> what is the reasoning for that?
[04:56] <Rico> Tat1: i lost a (fortunately harmless) xp partition due to ntfsresize
[04:57] <Tat1> yeah there wasn't anything important on it, just don't feel like reinstalling xp :p
[04:57] <Rico> it basically condenses all the files on your ntfs partition (The filesystem), then resizes the partition, so there's scope for data loss
[04:57] <Tat1> ah I see
[04:57] <Rico> Tat1: supposedly it's 'safe', but I just ended up buying a new hard disk for linux instead
[04:57] <Tat1> that partition shows up as 'unknown' now, would that happen from just resizing it?
[04:57] <Tat1> that's a good idea
[04:58] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?
[04:59] <DiffZ> Hi people :)
[05:00] <DiffZ> is there someone here who knows a thing about the system logging in ubuntu ?
[05:00] <outsiderzz> i don;t know
[05:00] <DiffZ> :)
[05:01] <outsiderzz> i'm too stupi about it
[05:01] <Sikon> http://lucidfox.org/dump/pinboard.jpg
  sorry my stupid question but how use the live-cd to enter in recovery mode
[05:05] <vishbar> Hi
[05:06] <bXi> any good kubuntu/xgl guide available?
[05:06] <jbroome> DiffZ: /var/log/ is a good start. :)
[05:07] <Hobbsee> davvs: there you go :)
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> bXi,  i honestly have to say.. avoide xgl at this time. :P its still much a work in progress
[05:07] <davvs> :D
[05:07] <Hobbsee> !xgl
[05:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:07] <davvs> whee
[05:07] <bXi> Dr_Willis: i know i want to mess around a bit
[05:07] <DiffZ> jbroome: yeah.. well something halted my server and i want to find out the program who did that :)
[05:07] <bXi> Hobbsee: thanks
[05:08] <swinchen> Ok, so I installed gcc....  how do I get common headers like stdio.h?
[05:08] <jbroome> DiffZ: /var/log/messages probably
[05:08] <Sikon> bxi> I use Xgl on Kubuntu
[05:08] <Sikon> although it required some trial and error
[05:08] <bXi> Sikon: i just used an older guide
[05:08] <Sikon> #ubuntu-xgl is a better place to ask
[05:08] <bXi> but it was slow as hell
[05:08] <DiffZ> jbroome: only the message that the system is going to halt :/
[05:08] <Sikon> maybe you didn't install the proprietary drivers?
[05:09] <bXi> those are installed
[05:09] <Sikon> NVIDIA or ATI?
[05:09] <bXi> nvidia
[05:09] <bXi> glxinfo |grep direct says yes
[05:10] <itsme> what other ubuntu channels are here ?
[05:10] <smokingman81> hello everybody!
[05:10] <ulfar> ubuntu rox, best desktop solution i've seen in linux so far
[05:10] <itsme> i have a multiarch fix that developers might want
[05:10] <Gargoyle> Does anyone use ubuntu (6.06) with a 3ware 9000 series SATA raid card?
[05:10] <swinchen> arg
[05:11] <Gargoyle> The wiki seems a bit thin on hardware info
[05:11] <smokingman81> can anybody please help my by patching a driver? I am a newbie and i am afraid to make a mistake while compiling a patched driver for my wireless card..
[05:12] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?
[05:12] <optimusprime> how do I get wma's to play.....I think they're wma's
[05:12] <Bob535> !ntfs
[05:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:13] <swinchen_> Ok, so I installed gcc....  how do I get common headers like stdio.h?
[05:13] <itsme> what is the developer channel ?
[05:13] <_david> Hello, does anyone know of a public proxy's ip address?
[05:14] <smokingman81> can u help me please?:(
[05:14] <JosefK> dell customer support are ****s
[05:14] <itsme> swinchen: they should be in /usr/include/bits
[05:14] <Caplain> what does it mean when i try to start a vmware machine and it says it cannot start because it cannot lock vmdk file?
[05:14] <itsme> smokingman81: this is probably the wrong channel for that
[05:14] <Gargoyle> Caplain: something else is using the file
[05:14] <swinchen> itsme, I do not have that directory
[05:15] <Caplain> Gargoyle: how do i tell?
[05:15] <smokingman81> in which one i can go?:)
[05:15] <davin> Hi, I want to try out automatix but I heard alot of nightmare stories about people who used it, can you recommend me it?
[05:15] <itsme> swinchen: can you put together a small test program and it fails to find stdio ?
[05:15] <swinchen> itsme, correct
[05:15] <optimusprime> no I had it wrong....how do I play WMV in Dapper?....do I install some codecs?
[05:16] <mcmillen> something CUPS-related -- i don't know what -- in ubuntu periodically overwrites /etc/printcap.  anyone know how to disable that? for arcane reasons (kerberized printing), i need a real, static, /etc/printcap, not something that gets trashed by CUPS periodically
[05:16] <itsme> smokingman81: do a list of ubuntu channels in this server, there must be something developer-related
[05:16] <fildo> w32codecs
[05:16] <itsme> swinchen: let me check my install
[05:16] <smokingman81> ok thanks
[05:16] <Morten_> Hey.. I have a problem installing Ubuntu on my laptop. I boot from the CD, and when the first menu pops up, i press <enter> for the default install. BUT after the initial uncompressing, the screen goes black, and nothing happens... - I have tried with different Ubuntu-vers., and it is the same result..
[05:16] <itsme> smokingman81: read the comment of the channel for clues
[05:16] <swinchen> swinchen@compaq:~$ locate stdio.h
[05:16] <swinchen> /usr/lib/perl/5.8.7/CORE/nostdio.h
[05:16] <smokingman81> ok
[05:17] <phoenix_036> Morten_:  have you checked the CDs for defects?
[05:17] <mcmillen> Morten_: try booting with VGA support off
[05:17] <itsme> swinchen: do you have the gcc-4.0 gcc-2.0-base packages installed ?
[05:17] <swinchen> itsme, it is like I am missing glibc or something.
[05:17] <swinchen> itsme, yes
[05:17] <itsme> swinchen: that's not it
[05:17] <mcmillen> i forget the exact args but it's something like add "vga=no" to the end of the kernel command-line
[05:17] <Morten_> phoenix_036, i dont think it is the CD's, they seem fine.
[05:18] <itsme> swinchen: i would remove the gcc-4.0* packages and install them again
[05:18] <silverfox> does anyone here uses freenx ?
[05:18] <Morten_> mcmillen, how do i do that? - in the install-menu?
[05:18] <itsme> swinchen: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[05:18] <drbashir> what is a good mailserver (as in easy configurable by a windows person)?
[05:18] <multichil> exim
[05:19] <wiking_> Please help! I have has Ubuntu & now install on PC Kubuntu too! I don't like Kubuntu loging screen, how i can get Ubuntu loging screen back?
[05:19] <swinchen> itsme, 6.06.1
[05:19] <itsme> swinchen: ok
[05:19] <jrib> wiking_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:19] <itsme> swinchen: what package manager you use ?
[05:19] <swinchen> itsme, I found it... I needed to install libglib2.0-dev
[05:19] <rbil> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me solve a weird problem I'm having
[05:20] <swinchen> itsme, apt
[05:20] <jrib> swinchen: have you installed build-essential?
[05:20] <davin> rbil: 'dont ask to ask, just ask it :-)'
[05:20] <rbil> I install Knode in Ubuntu and any url in a news posting when clicked opens screem instead of firefox. How to I fic that.
[05:20] <mcmillen> Morten_: on the first screen that you see. i forget the exact keypress but i think one of the help screen explains how to add arguments
[05:20] <swinchen> jrib, nope.
[05:20] <jrib> swinchen: that should give you the essential things you need to compile
[05:21] <Morten_> okay, ill try that, thanks
[05:21] <swinchen> jrib, thanks.
[05:21] <itsme> swinchen: libglib2.0* does not include stdio.h in my install, that file is part of the standard compiler, not a library
[05:21] <mvirkkil> Where can I find out if the edgy kernel has the patch for DEVICE_ZD1211B (mentioned here http://reactivated.net/patches/linux-kernel/2.6.17/zd1211rw.patch) and especially my device with the id 0x1215?
[05:21] <wiking_> jrib, thanks!
[05:22] <rbil> a url in an email message using Evolution opens with Firefox. So there's something about a KDE app that is screwy when installed on Ubuntu.
[05:22] <stakk-> hey all
[05:22] <itsme> hey
[05:22] <era86> waddup
[05:23] <itsme> waddup dog
[05:23] <era86> anyone running on a laptop
[05:23] <itsme> yes
[05:23] <hysteric> hi, anyone had success with vmplayer on ubuntu 6.06?
[05:23] <era86> itsme: what kind?
[05:23] <itsme> dell e1705
[05:23] <hysteric> era86: yes, I am running a thinkpad t30
[05:23] <rbil> the prob must be how KDE does file associations? but how does one check it if using Gnome on the desktop?
[05:23] <itsme> hysteric: yes
[05:23] <stakk-> i have a pc with 3 NICs. during installation the installer asked which should be the primary interface. I selected eth0 and that worked fine. Now I need the other cards but thez don't show up on ifconfig. How do i add them?
[05:23] <hysteric> itsme: did you have problem with the vmmon module version?
[05:24] <itsme> hysteric: not really, can you be more specific ?
[05:25] <SirKillalot> how do I create a cron job which works every second?
[05:25] <hysteric> itsme: well, I installed the vmplayer package with its dependencies, and when I try to load a virtual machine in vmplayer, it tells me that vmmon is not the good version, "expecting 137.0, got 138.0"
[05:25] <Halpo> anyone know how to get applications to load the gui's when you ssh?
[05:25] <stakk-> ok ifconfig eth1 up did the trick...
[05:26] <hysteric> itsme: I am using kernel 2.6.15-26-386
[05:26] <dfgas> wtf   http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15811
[05:26] <rbil> Question Again: :-) ... using Knode with Ubuntu (Gnome). When I click a url link in a posting, it opens Screem (HTML editor) rather than loading link into Firefox. How do I make Firefox the default HTML viewer in Knode?
[05:26] <dfgas> that kinda ticks me off
[05:26] <dfgas> i think linux is doing alot better and getting bigger over time
[05:26] <itsme> hysteric: hmmm, what version of the player ?  Mine is 1.0.2. build-29634
[05:27] <itsme> dfgas: ignore it, linux is unstopabble now
[05:27] <itsme> hysteric: my kernel is 2.6.15-26-686
[05:28] <ep> How do I locate a program (executable file) I'm able to launch from the linux shell?
[05:28] <hysteric> itsme: I have 1.0.1-4, the only one I see in synaptic
[05:28] <itsme> ep: locate <name of your program>
 try whereis progname
[05:28] <fildo> locate  <filename>
[05:28] <hysteric> ep, you can also use which
[05:28] <fildo> locate  <filename> | grep  <
[05:29] <itsme> hysteric: i installed it from the vmware site
[05:29] <fatbrain> I'm running my audio through the A/D Converter instead of AC-Link, but when running through A/D Converter, I get somewhat crappy sound-quality, is there a way of enhancing the quality?
[05:29] <hysteric> itsme: ok, I will try that, tks
[05:29] <ompaul> SirKillalot, while : ; do echo Do you Ubuntu ?; sleep 1; done
[05:29] <Morten_> I about to install ubuntu, at the language-menu, which of these should i take: da_DK.UTF-8 or just da_DK?
[05:29] <Morten_> i = im*
[05:30] <itsme> hysteric: is one fo the few things i haven't installed from the ubuntu package managers
[05:30] <hysteric> itsme: I am quite new to ubuntu, I am a big gentoo user, I am lost a little bit, but I quite like it, makes a very good desktop
[05:31] <shreevatsa> Morten_, I'd think UTF-8 thing by default, or both (if possible). But I don't know anything, so don't rely on me :)
[05:31] <Pthag> Hmm. Okay. I've got a good CD burnt, and the liveCD thing works, except when I attempt to install it, it behaves very slowly and takes ages to even display the window for the install, and then it just stays white. Bearing in mind that the HD currently still contains a working Windows install, are there any things that may be causing this in particular?
[05:31] <ep> thanks, its firefox actually so locate gives too much.  but i'll look into whereis and which.  I think i have multible installs.
[05:31] <Morten_> shreevatsa, i'll just take the UTF-8, and hope for the best :)
[05:33] <rbil> Question Again: :-) ... using Knode with Ubuntu (Gnome). When I click a url link in a posting, it opens Screem (HTML editor) rather than loading link into Firefox. How do I make Firefox the default HTML viewer in Knode?
[05:33] <kOpter> Yello :) I've just installed a new soundcard.. how do I get it to work?!
[05:35] <dlew> Hi.  Does anyone know the whereabouts of the GPG key for PLF packages?  I installed one, but it's not the right one -- doesn't satisfy apt.
[05:35] <DethKlok> How do you disconnect a screen session?
[05:36] <hysteric> DethKlok: ctrl-a d
[05:36] <Neo8750> ctrl+z ??
[05:36] <Neo8750> oh yeah ctrl+z is background
[05:36] <Hsn953> hi
[05:36] <skel> how can I initiate the console installer instead of using the gui from the livecd in edgy?
[05:36] <Neo8750> for regular bash
[05:36] <DethKlok> hysteric: thank you much
[05:36] <Neo8750> skel: alternative cd maybe?
[05:36] <Morten_> I have windows on my HDD now, and i have some free space that i want to use for ubuntu. I want to make a partition for it, but what type should it be? : Primary or Logic?
[05:37] <Hsn953> got a problem of my own... cant connect to Wireless LAN from Ubuntu...
[05:37] <Hsn953> Broadcom wifi
[05:37] <fildo> make it free and unknown
[05:37] <skel> Neo8750: is that a boot option? the only cd I got is a livecd / install cd
[05:37] <poningru> skel: you have to use a different cd, called alternative cd
[05:37] <skel> gah =/
[05:37] <poningru> skel: also called server cd
[05:37] <skel> ok thanks guys
[05:37] <fildo> Morten_: shrink partition for windows, boot ubuntu cd
[05:37] <fildo> it will do the rest
[05:37] <Hsn953> Can anyone help me out with this? BroadCom Wireless LAN is not working properly
[05:38] <MenZa> !dk > Morten_
[05:38] <Rico> Morten_: make a primary as long as you have only 1 or 2 partitions on the drive already.
[05:38] <Hsn953> Hi
[05:38] <Morten_> Okay, thanks alot
[05:38] <davvs> how do i change my keyboard language? when i installed Dapper i chose the wrong language
[05:38] <Hsn953> Can anyone help me out with a BroadCom Wireless LAN?
[05:38] <ravenous> alternate and server are two different isos/cds
[05:38] <Neo8750> fildo: so when installing it will only partition the free space??
[05:39] <dlew> I think I've been asking the wrong question.  I have an updated unace package, however, the update ut. warns that it is unauthenticated.  Anyone know why this is?  It seems to be from universe.
[05:39] <Neo8750> i was always under impression it formated the whole drive
[05:39] <fildo> if u select it to yes ..
[05:39] <Rico> Neo8750: you get the choice.
[05:39] <poningru> Morten_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:39] <Neo8750> Rico: is that new option in 6.06.1 ?
[05:39] <poningru> !dualboot > Morten_
[05:39] <MenZa> davvs: er, I think it's Settings -> Preferences/Administration -> Language Selector or similar
[05:39] <Hsn953> BroadCom Wireless LAN Issues... HELp Anyone?
[05:40] <Morten_> thanks again
[05:40] <Morten_> :)
[05:40] <ravenous> Neo8750: been there all of dapper at least, not just 6.06.1
[05:40] <Hsn953> ?
[05:40] <Rico> Neo8750: during install you get the choice to wipe the hd or install in the free space, or even resize ntfs.
[05:40] <fildo> Hsn953: whats up
[05:40] <poningru> dlew: press the reload button
[05:40] <poningru> and try again
[05:40] <Neo8750> werid mine didn't ask me it just asked if i wanted to do it myself or format
[05:40] <M_A_K> Jack_Sparrow : dd running 3 hrs now on 160GB HD.  I Ran top and the time for dd is 10:32.  about 1 hr ago the time was 9:15.  Is something wrong?  SHould the time increment very slowly?
[05:40] <Neo8750> not like it mattered i was removing windows
[05:40] <ravenous> Neo8750: did you have unpartioned space available when you tried?
[05:41] <Hsn953> Fildo its detecting the wireless connections available.... but is not connecting
[05:41] <Neo8750> ravenous: yes because i split drive in 1/2
[05:41] <poningru> M_A_K: hehe thats fine, that just shows the amount of proc time it takes up
[05:41] <doctorshim> greetings! I have a small question...
[05:41] <ravenous> Neo8750: well it should  have asked to use  the unpartioned space then
[05:41] <JosefK> Dell support have managed to create a paradox, and I'm trapped in a Franz Kafka novel :/
[05:41] <fildo> any wireless howto's
[05:41] <M_A_K> I see.
[05:41] <doctorshim> I'm trying to resize a 70gb parition to 120gb, and... GParted says it'll take three hours. Is that usual?
[05:41] <Neo8750> ravenous: well it doesn't matter now i'll just keep that in mind for future though
[05:41] <ep> 'whereis -b firefox' lists five files. Is this normal?  I think I've installed firefox too many ways.  I just updated using 'check for updates' | 'install now'.  Is this not good?  I lost cookies so I'm guessing the config file's location changed.
[05:41] <jrib> !wireless
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <M_A_K> Is dd really that slow?
[05:41] <Neo8750> doctorshim: what fs??
[05:42] <Hsn953> Ive tried a few .. emm okay thanks ill try it again..
[05:42] <doctorshim> Neo8750: ext3
[05:42] <Neo8750> oh
[05:42] <fildo> there u go, look @ that Hsn953, seen if u can get it to associate
[05:42] <poningru> M_A_K: no dude that just means dd is that efficient
[05:42] <davvs> ok, thanks MenZa
[05:42] <doctorshim> Neo8750: Well, right now it's moving <70gb of data around...
[05:42] <MenZa> No worries.
[05:42] <Hsn953> Sure fildo, thanks alot... ill respond.
[05:42] <poningru> JosefK: whats wrong?
[05:42] <doctorshim> I wonder if I screwed up majorly or something. :/
[05:42] <ep> i'd like to clean all this up (firerfox's everywhere) but I dont know how.
[05:43] <octan> hi all
[05:43] <dlew> poningru: Reload button>
[05:43] <dlew> poningru: Reload button?
[05:43] <ravenous> ep: 5 is normal, ive got the same thing with firefox installed just once
[05:43] <JosefK> poningru: can't choose a 90W adapter for a D620 on the site, and it's easier for me to accept the wrong order and then they fix it, instead of fixing it before I get it.  not ubuntu related, just me venting frustration :
[05:43] <octan> how can i extract a rpm file in kubuntu? not install it but decompress it  to a dir
[05:43] <M_A_K> poningru : should I be using something else rather than dd to clone a drive?  I tried g4u and it did not work for me.  My network card kept droping the connection.  I also tried Norton ghost with no luck.
[05:44] <ravenous> ep: just searching for 'firefox' isnt just giving you a list of the executable but its config files and libraries as well
[05:44] <doctorshim> Neo8750: Should I just delete and re-create the parition instead of resizing+moving it?
[05:45] <ep> how do i determine the the executable which is being run (via symlink or whatever) when i type 'firefox' on the shell?
[05:46] <poningru> dlew: in synaptic
[05:46] <ravenous> ep: its /usr/bin/firefox thats running, bin being short for 'binary'
[05:46] <poningru> dlew: or sudo apt-get update
[05:46] <poningru> in a terminal
[05:46] <soundray> I have a modem that is supposedly supported by the snd-atiixp-modem module, but I can't get a dialtone. Any hints or recommendations?
[05:46] <[Al] > Can anyone suggest why it might be that, once my USB stick has 170 files on it, it reports that it is full, regardless of capacity?
[05:47] <poningru> M_A_K: dd is the best thing to use, but kinda slow
[05:47] <dlew> poningru: That's not the problem: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!".  I think it's a key thing.
[05:47] <poningru> dlew: oh that... just use it not biggie
[05:47] <M_A_K> poningru : at this rate, it will take a week just to clone all of the HD's in my lab.
[05:48] <poningru> M_A_K: dd is usually used when you want zero error
[05:48] <soundray> M_A_K: have you looked at partimage? It handles partitions rather than whole drives, but supports compression.
[05:49] <M_A_K> Not yet.
[05:49] <jrib> ep: realdink -f $(which firefox)  <-- and that will probably send you to a bash script taht calls something else
[05:49] <covOPprometheus> does anyone have time to help me solving some cdrom issues right now?
[05:50] <covOPprometheus> please PM me
[05:50] <poningru> covOPprometheus: just state the question here
[05:50] <ep> jrib thank, i figured out which firefox was more or less what i want, yes it's a bash script that launches something else
[05:50] <covOPprometheus> poningru, it doesn't work
[05:51] <poningru> covOPprometheus: ok does it work in other os?
[05:51] <soundray> !doesn't work
[05:51] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:51] <covOPprometheus> poningru, and I'm kinda tired of waiting for hours and hours
[05:51] <krazykit> is there an easier way to convert dmg files to iso than the dmg2iso.pl (doesn't work on dvd images.)
[05:51] <covOPprometheus> poningru, I installed the distro with it
[05:52] <poningru> covOPprometheus: ah ok
[05:52] <covOPprometheus> poningru, and it has worked randombly like once this week
[05:52] <ep> should i not of updated via the firefox menu because I've lost my cookies etc.  I found the old cookie file and the new one just created in the home directory.  Can I just replace the new one?
[05:52] <Toaster> I need help with portforwarding! How can I forward a port using webmin??
[05:52] <covOPprometheus> poningru, can you help me determing the problem source?
[05:52] <ravenous> !webmin
[05:52] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[05:53] <poningru> covOPprometheus: go to the terminal type 'ls /dev | grep hd'
[05:53] <poningru> press enter
[05:53] <Toaster> ubotu, what do I use then?
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what do I use then? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <poningru> Toaster: what are you doing?
[05:53] <Toaster> setting up a server as a router
[05:54] <Toaster> and then I thought webmin would be easy to use
[05:54] <reighben> hi.. sorry to be a bother but i used the sudo rm -Rf /dev/hda1 to remove the ntfs formatting of my old windows partition... how can i reformat it to ext3? the Disks Manager utility doesn't work...
[05:54] <soundray> Toaster, consider firestarter
[05:54] <soundray> !firestarter
[05:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:54] <Toaster> soundray, does firestarter have a web interface?
[05:54] <covOPprometheus> poningru, hda ~a1 ~a2 ~a5 and ~b (the las one is the suposed partition for cdrom)
[05:55] <diego_cl> how can I change the scratchdisk from CINELERRA ? !? !?!?!?
[05:55] <poningru> covOPprometheus: hmm
[05:55] <poningru> covOPprometheus: insert a cd in there
[05:55] <ravenous> Toaster: no it doesnt
[05:55] <poningru> and type in the terminal
[05:55] <poningru> mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom
[05:56] <reighben> hi.. sorry to be a bother but i used the sudo rm -Rf /dev/hda1 to remove the ntfs formatting of my old windows partition... how can i reformat it to ext3? the Disks Manager utility isn't able to format it
[05:56] <Toaster> ravenous, ok. Thanks..I will try it anyway :)
[05:56] <ep> In other words I updated using "Check for updates" on the firefox menu (as root). Did I screw up the APT packaging in regards to firefox?  I already know I lost my cookies:)
[05:56] <poningru> reighben: hold on dude
[05:56] <covOPprometheus> poningru, done
[05:56] <poningru> covOPprometheus: go to /media/cdrom
[05:56] <reighben> sowi
[05:56] <poningru> can you read it?
[05:56] <covOPprometheus> poningru, this is sooooo wierd
[05:56] <loudmouthman> reighnen .. you kinda need relabel the partition type .. you can use Administration->disks to do this
[05:57] <covOPprometheus> poningru, it mounted it and all
[05:57] <poningru> covOPprometheus: hmm
[05:57] <poningru> covOPprometheus: that means the automount is messed up or something
[05:57] <covOPprometheus> poningru, can you help me getting it right?
[05:57] <poningru> covOPprometheus: do you have all the updates and stuff?
[05:57] <reighben> how do i "relabel"?
[05:58] <poningru> reighben: go into a terminal
[05:58] <loudmouthman> reighben: im looking up a link for you now.
[05:58] <covOPprometheus> like dist-upgrades and so?
[05:58] <poningru> reighben: fdisk /dev/hda
[05:58] <covOPprometheus> poningru, like dist-upgrades and so?
[05:58] <poningru> covOPprometheus: oh no no need for that
[05:58] <reighben> thanks
[05:58] <poningru> covOPprometheus: just go into a terminal and do sudo apt-get update
[05:58] <[Al] > Can anyone suggest why it might be that, once my USB stick has 170 files on it, it reports that it is full, regardless of capacity?
[05:58] <loudmouthman> reighben : System->Administration->Disks  is a start .. are you able to do this from the desktop ?
[05:59] <loudmouthman> or are you on commandline
[05:59] <covOPprometheus> poningru, that is done already
[05:59] <poningru> hmm
[05:59] <poningru> covOPprometheus: that is weird
[05:59] <covOPprometheus> poningru, told you ;9
[05:59] <poningru> reighben: follow what loudmouthman is telling you
[05:59] <poningru> cause I only know cli
[06:00] <poningru> gui might be easier for you
[06:00] <bombero> hi, i have 400M in /var/cache , with apt-get or apt-cache should be nice
[06:00] <reighben> poninguru after i run the line fdisk /dev/hda what do i do?
[06:00] <soundray> [Al] : could be a filesystem limitation. Can you still add files if you write to a directory inside?
[06:00] <bombero> ...to remove it
[06:00] <reighben> loudmouthman, umm no.. it doesn't format using the Disk Manager
[06:00] <[Al] > I haven't tried. I will when I've done this.
[06:00] <loudmouthman> reighben : i .... are you in the DesktopEnvironment or are you installing .. ?
[06:00] <poningru> reighben: you sure you want to use cli?
[06:01] <loudmouthman> reighnen : can you access it from Disk manager ?
[06:01] <soundray> [Al] : if you use this stick with Linux only, consider formatting it with ext2 or ext3
[06:01] <reighben> im in the desktop environment
[06:01] <[Al] > I don't :<
[06:01] <infidel_> how can i lock my cd-rom i keep bumping the button
[06:01] <ravenous> reighben: you should have used dis manager in the first place, you rm -rf was not a good way to clear a partition for reformatting
[06:01] <reighben> loudmouthman, sorry sir, i cant do it through the disk manager
[06:02] <loudmouthman> then You should be able to either A) Delete the Partition .. then Create the Partition .. at which point you can specify the FileSystem.
[06:02] <poningru> reighben: here lets just do this over cli
[06:02] <LadyNikon> infidel_: in linux usually it wont if its in use
[06:02] <Gun_Smoke> Is it possible for me to kill Gnome?
[06:02] <loudmouthman> pon : over to you <grin>
[06:02] <LadyNikon> Gun_Smoke: define kill
[06:02] <poningru> reighben: after fdisk /dev/hda
[06:02] <reighben> ok
[06:02] <Gun_Smoke> LadyNikon:  I'm trying to run FlighGear and would like to free up all resources
[06:03] <poningru> reighben: first are you sure hda1 is the correct partition you want to get rid of?
[06:03] <reighben> poninguru, what's next?
[06:03] <soundray> [Al] : okay, in that case, it might help to format it with FAT32 (e.g. 'mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sda1')
[06:03] <loudmouthman> cause the wiki is empty !
[06:03] <[ATM] Nightshift> Gun_Smoke: cant you just do ps -a and then kill <process_id>?
[06:03] <reighben> poninguru, yap im sure
[06:03] <poningru> reighben: then press d
[06:03] <[Al] > soundray: I just realised I earler copied a directory with more than 500 files in it and it was happy with that
[06:03] <ravenous> its already gone so it better be
[06:03] <poningru> reighben: then press 1
[06:03] <[Al] > And as far as I know it is already fat32
[06:03] <reighben> ok wait
[06:04] <poningru> reighben: what does it say when you do fdisk /dev/hda
[06:04] <poningru> ?
[06:04] <Gun_Smoke> [ATM] Nightshift:  I suppose, but gnome isn't nessary to run FG right?
[06:04] <reighben> k
[06:04] <reighben> wait
[06:04] <poningru> k
[06:04] <[ATM] Nightshift> Gun_Smoke: I dont know... i dont know the app.
[06:04] <poningru> reighben: take your time, I will be here
[06:04] <ravenous> Gun_Smoke: is it an x program? your going to have to have some DE to run it
[06:04] <[Al] > soundray, no, you were right, it's currently fat16 for some inane and unknown reason
[06:05] <[ATM] Nightshift> Gun_Smoke: maybe you can also do a init 3. (means init to runlevel 3)
[06:05] <A[D] minS> how i can compres file.rar?
[06:05] <soundray> [Al] : I think by guessing this right I've revealed my age ;)
[06:05] <reighben> pls w8.. im doing the commands now.. thanks for the patience
[06:05] <poningru> reighben: just yell my name, if you run into trouble
[06:05] <poningru> reighben: yep take your time
[06:05] <[Al] > Quite why it has FAT16 on it I don't know
[06:05] <ravenous> A[D] minS: uh a rar file is already compressed
[06:06] <A[D] minS> i mean to file.rar :D
[06:06] <soundray> !rar
[06:06] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:06] <poningru> A[D] minS: do you want to make a file.rar ?
[06:06] <poningru> from a bunch of files?
[06:06] <poningru> or from a single file?
[06:07] <Gun_Smoke> ravenous:  i don't have any idea.. I thought because it was launched from the command line I wouldn't need to run x.  I guess thinking about it now, it doesn't make much sense.
[06:07] <soundray> A[D] minS: I don't think there is a rar compression utility for Linux. Use tar and bzip2 instead
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[06:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:07] <[Al] > Sure there is
[06:07] <ravenous> soundray: of course there is
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Rar has programs for linux. :P
[06:07] <[Al] > it's called rar
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> wine winrar.exe -- works very well also.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> but i HATE RAR's!
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:07] <Gun_Smoke> Thanks anyhow all.  Good bye.
[06:09] <reighben> poninguru, when i type fdisk /dev/hda it displays this: "The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4864.
[06:09] <reighben> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[06:09] <reighben> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[06:09] <reighben> "
[06:09] <poningru> reighben: no biggie
[06:09] <silverfox> wich plugin i could use to show lyrics on xmms ?:
[06:10] <poningru> reighben: perfectly normal for modern hard drives
[06:11] <reighben> poninguru, now using this terminal, how can i partition my unformatted hda1 and format the partitions in ext3?
[06:11] <poningru> reighben: now press d
[06:11] <poningru> we are deleting hda1
[06:11] <poningru> and making a new partition
[06:11] <reighben> poninguru, k w8
[06:12] <reighben> poninguru, after i press d?
[06:12] <poningru> press 1
[06:12] <reighben> done
[06:12] <poningru> that will erase hda1
[06:12] <reighben> k
[06:13] <poningru> hold on
[06:13] <poningru> press p
[06:13] <reighben> then
[06:13] <poningru> does the table ok?
[06:13] <poningru> does the table look ok*
[06:14] <reighben> poninguru, hda1 isn't displayed
[06:14] <reighben> poninguru, only my linux partition and its swap
[06:14] <poningru> reighben: cool press w, this will write to disk and exit, now be absolutely sure hda1 is the one you want to delete
[06:14] <reighben> poninguru, ok wait
[06:15] <dlew> poningru: "just use it" -- that's my usual approach, but I know it'll bite me (and anyone else) someday.
[06:15] <kkaisare> Greetings all.
[06:15] <reighben> poninguru, do you mean exit the terminal?
[06:16] <reighben> poninguru, what do i do next?
[06:16] <poningru> reighben: yeah it will write and exit out of fdisk
[06:16] <poningru> reighben: dont exit out of terminal
[06:16] <kkaisare> I am unable to find a way to install new themes in Xfce. I read up online and found a reference to xfskin which does not show up in the Ubuntu repositories. Does anyone know what I am missing?
[06:16] <poningru> reighben: type fdisk /dev/hda again
[06:16] <reighben> nope i didn't exit
[06:17] <reighben> poninguru, k, what next?
[06:17] <poningru> press n
[06:17] <reighben> poninguru, ok
[06:17] <poningru> just press enter to choose the defaults
[06:18] <reighben> poninguru, ok w8
[06:18] <WiLiE> hello, i need some help :D with ubuntu :S (installation)
[06:18] <reighben> poninguru, when i press enter, this displays: Command action
[06:18] <reighben>    e   extended
[06:18] <reighben>    p   primary partition (1-4)
[06:19] <Flamekebab-offic> guys, any idea why a hard drive I've added to this system won't stay mounted when I reboot?
[06:19] <poningru> oh sorry
[06:19] <poningru> reighben: press p
[06:19] <ravenous> Flamekebab-offic: is it added to fstab?
[06:19] <Flamekebab-offic> yep
[06:19] <reighben>    okie
[06:19] <WiLiE> hello, i need some help :D with ubuntu :S (installation), it says loaded kernel... and it does nothing from th ere
[06:19] <Flamekebab-offic> but I'm not sure if I've got it right#
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Flamekebab,  what  kind of hd?
[06:19] <reighben> what next?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Flamekebab,  and whats the fstab line look like.
[06:19] <Flamekebab-offic> IDE
[06:19] <Flamekebab-offic> 500GB
[06:19] <ulfar> reighben: you should try cfdisk if you have never used fdisk
[06:19] <poningru> reighben: what does it ask?
[06:20] <reighben> partition number (1 -4)
[06:20] <wobster> Hi everyone. To install the server edition I just grab the ubuntu install cd and have the option not to install a desktop? or is there a separate image for that?
[06:20] <poningru> reighben: 1
[06:20] <Flamekebab-offic> Dr_Willis, /dev/hdb       /media/data-disk ext3 defaults 0     0
[06:20] <ravenous> wobster: seperate image
[06:20] <poningru> wobster: the server cd
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Flamekebab,  shouldet it be /dev/hdb1 or similer...
[06:20] <holzmodem> im try to set the classpath in the .bash_profile... but the echo aof $CLASSPATH ist empty ........ CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/usr/share/java/glib0.2.jar export CLASSPATH ... whats wrong?
[06:20] <WiLiE> :S!
[06:20] <Flamekebab-offic> well in gnome disk-admin it shows up as hdb
[06:20] <reighben> poninguru, then it displays: first cylinder (1- 4864)
[06:21] <jayphi> hello, i can't boot ubuntu from my second hard drive, please help
[06:21] <WiLiE> X-S
[06:21] <Flamekebab-offic> or did, going to check now
[06:21] <poningru> reighben: just press enter
[06:21] <Flamekebab-offic> bingo
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> holzmodem,  you realize that  .bash_profile only gets read by the login shells?
[06:21] <Flamekebab-offic> I'll give that a shot
[06:21] <reighben> poninguru, ok what next?
[06:21] <Flamekebab-offic> thanks!
[06:21] <wobster> ravenous, in ubuntu.com/server the links on the right side only lead me to the standard image .... is that url incorrect?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> holzmodem,  .bashrc may be where ya want to put that info.
[06:21] <poningru> reighben: it should have chosen 1 when you pressed enter
[06:21] <poningru> reighben: now press enter again
[06:22] <kkaisare> I am unable to find a way to install new themes in Xfce. I read up online and found a reference to xfskin which does not show up in the Ubuntu repositories. Could someone please help me?
[06:22] <reighben> poninguru, yap it chose 1.. pressing enter now
[06:22] <ravenous> wobster: go to ubuntu.com, click on download, pick your country, scroll down the server cd
[06:22] <WiLiE> hello, i need some help :D with ubuntu :S (installation), it says loaded kernel... and it does nothing from th ere
[06:22] <WiLiE> X-S
[06:22] <wobster> ravenous, ah, there are more section on that page. thank you.
[06:22] <poningru> reighben: it should have chosen 4864 after the next enter
[06:23] <reighben> poninguru, i pressed enter.. nope it chose 3845
[06:23] <poningru> err ok thats fine then
[06:23] <holzmodem> Dr_Willis, ok im will try it, .bash_profile was written in ubuntuforums.org
[06:23] <poningru> reighben: what does it ask now?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> kkaisare,  ya fire up the package manager  and search for themes there.
[06:23] <reighben> i'm back in: Command (m for help):
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> holzmodem,  that may get read by your INITIAL login. changeing it after you are logged in. wont affect the new terminals.
[06:24] <jayphi> i tried to boot ubuntu from my second hard drive but it gives me the message /bin/sh:  can't access tty; job control off  Can someone please help?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> holzmodem,  so you could just log compeletly out. :)
[06:24] <poningru> reighben: good
[06:24] <ciastek> hello! where i can find someone, who takes care about ubuntu.com website?
[06:24] <poningru> reighben: press p
[06:24] <ciastek> hello! where i can find someone, who takes care about fridge.ubuntu.com website?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> holzmodem,  theres a lot of little.. nuances to how bash reads its configs. :P
[06:24] <reighben> poninguru, ok
[06:24] <poningru> reighben: make sure all the start, end blocks match up
[06:25] <poningru> reighben: now press w if everything matches up
[06:25] <reighben> poninguru, ok
[06:26] <poningru> reighben: now we have to format into a ext3
[06:26] <reighben> yehey!
[06:26] <poningru> reighben: although I would choose reiserfs
[06:26] <reighben> how do we do that?
[06:26] <poningru> for ext3 its 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1'
[06:27] <tigfour> WiLiE: What's wrong?
[06:27] <WiLiE> hello, i need some help :D with ubuntu :S (installation), it says loaded kernel... and it does nothing from th ere
[06:27] <WiLiE> that
[06:27] <WiLiE> it says something like kernel loaded and ....
[06:27] <tigfour> WiLiE: Does it even start X? Or is it stuck boothing from the CD
[06:27] <WiLiE> and then it doesnt do anything
[06:27] <reighben> poninguru, is reiserfs a file system too? why do you prefer that?
[06:27] <WiLiE> im stuck
[06:28] <WiLiE> booting from the cd
[06:28] <tigfour> WiLiE: So you did not install it yet?
[06:28] <poningru> reighben: reiserfs is another file system, its much better when handling smaller files
[06:28] <WiLiE> no
[06:28] <WiLiE> it got stuck in the black screen
[06:28] <WiLiE> where it says that the kernel is loaded
[06:28] <WiLiE> .....
[06:28] <tigfour> WiLiE: What kind of installation are you trying? GUI or Text-Based?
[06:28] <reighben> poninguru, ok i'll use that instead.. how do i format it that way?
[06:29] <tigfour> WiLiE: Did you test the CD with the built in CD Checker?
[06:29] <poningru> mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hda1
[06:29] <tigfour> WiLiE: ??
[06:29] <WiLiE> yeah, i press on the cd checker and it just ran the installation and the same thing happened
[06:29] <WiLiE> :S
[06:29] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?
[06:30] <reighben> after i do this.. how can i mount it to the filesystem so it can be used by linux when it runs out of drive space in my linux partition?
[06:30] <tigfour> WiLiE: I think there is a problem with your disc.
[06:30] <linnuxxy> how can i download all the packages of ubuntu as ISOs ... so i would not need to use the net when i need to install a package using apt?
[06:30] <eyequeue> mkfs.reiser4 (8)     - the program for creating reiser4 filesystem.
[06:30] <poningru> reighben: will tell you that as well
[06:30] <jayphi> i tried to boot ubuntu from my second hard drive but it gives me the message /bin/sh:  can't access tty; job control off  Can someone please help?
[06:30] <tigfour> linnuxxy: Look on Ubuntu.com
[06:30] <poningru> eyequeue: dont use reiser4
[06:30] <WiLiE> im running on linux xp, and i still have the image, is there a command that would burn the image better?
[06:30] <poningru> thats not supported well
[06:30] <eyequeue> linnuxxy, they come as .deb, not .iso, too small
[06:30] <reighben> poninguru, ty, formatting in process
[06:31] <tigfour> WiLiE: Did you just download the image and burn it?
[06:31] <WiLiE> yeah last night
[06:31] <Daynah> :( Hey guys, wonderin' if you could help me. My desktop ubuntu is freezing after I've logged in and used it for a bit. While loading up, It has a problem with "all file systems" reporting things like "trans atta stat error" and "error loading journal"
[06:31] <eyequeue> linnuxxy, perhaps you want the dvd?  more room for packages on it
[06:31] <tigfour> eyequeue: He is looking to download the entire Universer or Multiverse repository
[06:31] <linnuxxy> in ubuntu.com there is one ISO that contains only the basic packages... i need all the packages to be in CDs.... just like Debian
[06:32] <don_jr> How can I transfer files over a network with 2 ubuntu box's?
[06:32] <eyequeue> don_jr, scp
[06:32] <tigfour> linnuxxy: Which packages are you looking for? You can add them manually but the basic ubuntu dvd has many packages that it installs.
[06:32] <WiLiE> :S
[06:32] <tigfour> don_jr: FTP, SSH, SFTP, SAMBA
[06:33] <fjellrev1> Is there anyone here with experience with Engage that could help me out with some issues?
[06:33] <tigfour> fjellrev1: What's engage
[06:33] <don_jr> I just got ubuntu installed last week, I'm totally new to linux.  How do I start one of those?
[06:33] <fjellrev1> a dockbar that looks like the mac bar,
[06:33] <Daynah> don: one of what?
[06:33] <eyequeue> linnuxxy, "sudo apt-get install apt-zip && man apt-zip"
[06:33] <linnuxxy> for example i had downloaded the Ubuntu 6.06 Server CD... but when i went to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.... i need to download more than 500 MB!!!
[06:33] <tigfour> Daynah: I got it
[06:33] <eyequeue> don_jr, you type scp
[06:33] <tigfour> don_jr: PM me
[06:34] <fildo> yer its a gig install
[06:34] <eyequeue> don_jr, man scp, for instructions
[06:34] <WiLiE> tigfour , i right clicked the image and hit write to disc, its there a command that would burn it in like the terminal or something?
[06:34] <tigfour> don_jr: I private messaged you
[06:34] <tigfour> WiLiE: That sounds right
[06:34] <reighben> poninguru, when i used the reiserfs format command this displayed: mkfs.reiserfs 3.6.19 (2003 www.namesys.com)
[06:34] <reighben> A pair of credits:
[06:34] <reighben> Edward Shushkin wrote the encryption and compression  file plugins,  and the V3
[06:34] <reighben> journal relocation code.
[06:34] <reighben> BigStorage  (www.bigstorage.com)  contributes to our general fund  every month,
[06:34] <reighben> and has done so for quite a long time.
[06:34] <reighben> Stat of the device '/dev/hda1' failed
[06:34] <tigfour> WiLiE: I am not too familiar with Linux XP
[06:34] <Daynah> tigfour: okie
[06:34] <don_jr> tigfour I didn't get it.
[06:34] <eyequeue> !paste > reighben
[06:35] <tigfour> don_jr: You should have
[06:35] <tigfour> don_jr: Do you know how to use your IRC client?
[06:35] <don_jr> somewhat...
[06:35] <tigfour> WiLiE: BRB I'm gonna help don_jr
[06:35] <poningru> reighben: hmm
[06:35] <Daynah> I haven't gotten any replies yet; this is a weird time of the day. :) I was wondering if anyone has heard of this: My desktop ubuntu is freezing after I've logged in and used it for a bit. While loading up, It has a problem with "all file systems" reporting things like "trans atta stat error" and "error loading journal"
[06:35] <poningru> reighben: try mkreiserfs /dev/hda1
[06:36] <poningru> err sudo mkreiserfs /dev/hda1
[06:36] <tigfour> don_jr: Are you going to respond?
[06:36] <don_jr> tigfour if I saw where you were putting anything in I sure would.
[06:36] <poningru> reighben: dude I have to go go
[06:36] <tigfour> you just pmed me
[06:36] <WiLiE> lol, i guess is my turn no, jk, lol
[06:36] <poningru> I will be back in 12 hours
[06:36] <reighben> poninguru, nothin happens
[06:36] <reighben> ok
[06:37] <reighben> bye sir
[06:37] <tigfour> don_jr: You just PMed me a second ago saying "this one work?"
[06:37] <reighben> thanks much
[06:37] <Gamkeiller> Daynah: sounds like your hard drive takeing a dump
[06:37] <don_jr> tigfour I'm sorry I'm so new at this.  I don't have another tab that opened up.  I did do that, but I havn't seen a response.
[06:37] <eyequeue> tigfour, -don_jr- VERSION xchat 2.6.1 Ubuntu  if that helps
[06:37] <tigfour> don_jr: type /msg tigfour <message>
[06:37] <Daynah> Gam: you mean taking a dump like the clickity clickity of doom, because I haven't heard that, or taking a dump in some other colloquial sense?
[06:38] <Gamkeiller> has any one here had any problem keybinding in metacity i can not get a keybind to work at all
[06:38] <fildo> lol
[06:39] <Gamkeiller> Daynah: well on the hardware side more so
[06:39] <tigfour> eyequeue: Thanks :)
[06:39] <Oni-Dracula> how well does ubuntu play with soundblaster cards?
[06:39] <eyequeue> tigfour, sure :)
[06:39] <tigfour> don_jr: Still can't read it?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Oni-Dracula,  mine always work great
[06:39] <don_jr> tigfour I've got another tab opened with your name on in now, not sure if it's working though.
[06:39] <Gamkeiller> Daynah: your disk may be fine but you electronics may be failing run smart on it see if it tell you anything
[06:40] <Gamkeiller> if it not running already
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Oni-Dracula,  dont get that latest greatest/newest one  however.. its not supported YET.
[06:40] <fildo> Oni-Dracula: my live works fine
[06:40] <eyequeue> don_jr, press on that tab and talk there
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Oni-Dracula,  Audigy2zs here - is great
[06:40] <tigfour> don_jr: Im messaging you,
[06:40] <Oni-Dracula> I went and bought me some 5.1 speakers (because they were on sale) and forgot that it was my OLD mobo that had 5.1 inputs
[06:40] <Oni-Dracula> outputs
[06:40] <tigfour> don_jr: oh well, lets just do it in here
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> 5.1 is over rated. :P
[06:40] <M_A_K> I just used dd to clone a HD.  Installed the HD into computer and booted.  I logged in and changed the hostname and ip info (via network-admin) and restarted.  The computer is not behaving very well.  Programs take forever to open and sometimes do not open at all.  I typed exit at the terminal prompt over 20 minutes ago and still the window is open.  What could I have done wrong?  Does it matter that I am using NIS to handle roaming login?
[06:40] <don_jr> I have been, asked if you were still getting it or not....you havn't responded in it, I'm taking it it's not the same one you are in....
[06:40] <Daynah> gam: run smart on it? also, I have three hard drives, would this be happening to the hard drive that ubuntu is installed on or could it be any of them?
[06:40] <Oni-Dracula> Dr_Willis, they're shiny tho :)
[06:40] <fildo> mobo ?
[06:41] <Oni-Dracula> possibly useful if support functions in counterstrike/hl2
[06:41] <Gamkeiller> what mobo do you got
[06:41] <tigfour> don_jr: Type /join #don_jr
[06:41] <Daynah> gam: crap lemme check, it's like four years old
[06:41] <Gamekiller> spelling
[06:41] <Gamekiller> lol
[06:42] <eyequeue> !language > Daynah
[06:42] <Oni-Dracula> output is superior to the old 2.1's
[06:42] <Oni-Dracula> even if it's only 3 speakers functioning
[06:42] <Daynah> gam: intel
[06:42] <fildo> 7.1 is better
[06:42] <fildo> ;p
[06:42] <Gamekiller> so metacity keybinds
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Oni-Dracula,  yea. i just mirror the front stero to the back..
[06:42] <Oni-Dracula> fildo - SALE!
[06:42] <Sivanicon> Anyone know how to change the default text color in the console?
[06:42] <Gamekiller> Daynah: how may HD do you have again
[06:43] <Oni-Dracula> wtf is linux xp
[06:43] <richard501> Does anyone know of software that can edit pdf files?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> richard501,  i though openoffice could.. or can it only make them/print to them.
[06:43] <Gamekiller> richard501: if you find a ps to pdf converter tell me
[06:43] <Daynah> gam: three. One with ubuntu, the other two are just data
[06:43] <Gamekiller> hda i ubuntu i hope
[06:44] <Gamekiller> i hope*
[06:44] <Gamekiller> PM me so i can talk to you directly
[06:44] <doctorshim> I'm installing Ubuntu on a new machine, and the installer froze up at "Setting up the clock." What do I do?
[06:44] <Sivanicon> doctorshim: buy a new computer
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:44] <fildo> reboot
[06:44] <Gamekiller> lol
[06:44] <fildo> n try again
[06:44] <eyequeue> doctorshim, is it online?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> it may of hung right befor that,,
[06:44] <fildo> n again n again till installs
[06:45] <WiLiE> ........
[06:45] <doctorshim> eyequeue: Yes, networking works.
[06:45] <Gamekiller> is you bios clock set right
[06:45] <eyequeue> doctorshim, scratch that idea then
[06:45] <WiLiE> can some1 tell me how to burn an image thrue the terminal or something
[06:45] <doctorshim> Gamekiller: Yeah, it should be.
[06:45] <eyequeue> WiLiE, man cdrecord
[06:45] <Gamekiller> WiLiE: there man pages that can tell you that
[06:45] <doctorshim> I'll just try it again...
[06:46] <Oni-Dracula> weee!!
[06:46] <Gamekiller> doctorshim: i had ramdom stuff like that happen to me some time is odd freak of nature
[06:46] <mikeconcepts> I have a line in my sources.list that is giving me this error http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[06:46] <doctorshim> I can skip reformatting the disk again, right?
[06:46] <Gamekiller> sun flare
[06:46] <eyequeue> Oni-Dracula, please don't do that
[06:46] <Oni-Dracula> sorry :p
[06:46] <mikeconcepts> but don't know which one
[06:46] <Oni-Dracula> I just like running around screaming "weee!!"
[06:46] <doctorshim> Since I'd rather keep reformatting it over, and over, and over ...
[06:46] <eyequeue> Oni-Dracula, that listening thing
[06:46] <doctorshim> *rather not
[06:46] <Oni-Dracula> I know :0
[06:47] <Oni-Dracula> I'm just messin around with the new speakers
[06:47] <Gamekiller> doctorshim: i would think so as there no data on it already
[06:47] <Gamekiller> if there is then yah
[06:47] <Oni-Dracula> I thought maybe someone would appreciate gerry rafferty at high volume
[06:47] <doctorshim> Gamekiller: Ubuntu formats the paritions before it gets there anyway, AFAIK.
[06:47] <WiLiE> bash-3.00# man cdrecord
[06:47] <WiLiE> bash: man: command not found
[06:47] <WiLiE> ....
[06:47] <Gamekiller> that what i thought
[06:47] <WiLiE> didnt work
[06:47] <fildo> no we dont appreciate it
[06:47] <Oni-Dracula> fildo, time to start!
[06:47] <Gamekiller> i a gentoo convert so i getting in to ubuntu now
[06:47] <eyequeue> Oni-Dracula, i think it's !guidelines, but anyway, we can't hear anything
[06:48] <lupine_85> WiLiE: are you in single-user mode?
[06:48] <doctorshim> Gamekiller: You'll notice installing software is much faster.
[06:48] <Oni-Dracula> well you can go borrow the song off of gnutella
[06:48] <coredata> hi
[06:48] <Gamekiller> yah
[06:48] <DrthHmstr> Hello
[06:48] <Gamekiller> a lot
[06:48] <Oni-Dracula> or...you might have the culture to actually know the song :)
[06:48] <Gamekiller> doctorshim: that the key thing i like right now
[06:48] <doctorshim> Gamekiller: Gentoo demands everything to be custom made.
[06:48] <Caplain> whats a good torrent app for linux?
[06:48] <DrthHmstr> ok
[06:48] <coredata> interest
[06:48] <Gamekiller> and that it worked after intall and it did not take 48 hours to install Xwindows
[06:48] <WiLiE> lupine_85:root
[06:48] <WiLiE> :P
[06:49] <WiLiE> is that what u mean?
[06:49] <lupine_85> erm, no
[06:49] <Oni-Dracula> Caplain, I kinda like the one that ships with ubuntu
[06:49] <WiLiE> lol
[06:49] <Gamekiller> doctorshim: i know i been using it for a long time
[06:49] <WiLiE> then?
[06:49] <eyequeue> !root > WiLiE
[06:49] <fildo> Caplain: azereus
[06:49] <lupine_85> you should have <path># if you're in a standard root login
[06:49] <Oni-Dracula> Caplain, it doesn't get all crashy like azureus can
[06:49] <eyequeue> WiLiE, read that url please
[06:49] <Gamekiller> i still use it for my custome servers
[06:49] <fildo> or ktorrent
[06:49] <lupine_85> you have bash-3.00# which you usually see in single user mode
[06:49] <Gamekiller> but i work for edu to ubuntu just works as i nee dit
[06:49] <fildo> or opera
[06:49] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?
[06:50] <lupine_85> or busybox
[06:50] <dan271828> azureus is a bad choice, looks like tamagochi, better use amule...
[06:50] <Gamekiller> So no help with simple keybinds on metacity i know i just missing something very simple but not sure what
[06:50] <Oni-Dracula> azureus has problems with large directories and seeding :)
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Gamekiller,  those are often the hardest problems to trouble shoot.
[06:50] <Gamekiller> i can tell and there not much doc on them
[06:50] <TheInternet> On an OEM install from the alternative, I know my username would default to OEM, but what's my password?
[06:51] <doctorshim> Gamekiller: I say any distro that can install in under an hour has got to be *good*.
[06:51] <Gamekiller> google had been feudal
[06:51] <Gamekiller> doctorshim: more so that it works after with my wifi
[06:51] <doctorshim> Hehe.
[06:51] <lupine_85> most distros can install in under an hour :)
[06:51] <lupine_85> (LFS and Gentoo excepted)
[06:51] <Gamekiller> it a 100 fold better
[06:52] <dan271828> ok, my laptop will soon get the right OS on it, i'm burning that ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso, any suggestions (please) in the last second...
[06:52] <Gamekiller> ubuntu so fare been the fastes
[06:52] <doctorshim> Gamekiller: Glad you like it. It's one of my fav distros next to Debian.
[06:52] <grimboy> Is there a way to auto configure samba? I've been trying to get it to work for ages and have failed.
[06:52] <Rimtech> Can someone help me with a little question, if i want to convert my box from ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop, what would be the best way to go about it? "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"?
[06:52] <Gamekiller> dan271828:  it should just work
[06:52] <Stork> where is the best place to add something to PATH so it's accessible from the shell?
[06:52] <Gamekiller> as long as you wifi card has linux drivers
[06:52] <TheInternet> On an OEM install from the alternative, I know my username would default to OEM, but what's my password?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Rimtech,  i tend to install xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Rimtech,  so i got a ubUBER-desktop
[06:53] <Rimtech> Dr_Willis how do you switch betweem?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Rimtech,  the login screen you just select a session. :P trivial
[06:53] <Rimtech> ok
[06:53] <Stork> where is the best place to add something to PATH so it's accessible from the shell?
[06:53] <Rimtech> but which login screen?
[06:53] <Rimtech> gdm?
[06:53] <Gamekiller> no
[06:53] <Gamekiller> where you log in
[06:53] <Gamekiller> session
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> and you can mixx * match the apps from kde and gnome  & xfce
[06:53] <Gamekiller> icon
[06:53] <grimboy> !wifi
[06:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:53] <Warbo> I'm trying to sign Ubuntu's COC (my second attempt, why can I not get my head around this?). Could someone tell me which of the various numbers printed out by gpg is the "key ID" which I should be publishing to a server? (also, Launchpad's commands involving "gpg --server xxxxxxxxxx" say "server" is not a valid option)
[06:53] <Rimtech> yeah i know.... which session manager though, xdm, gdm, kdm, etc?
[06:53] <WiLiE> lupine_85:ok, but im not running on ubuntu yet, thats my problem i got stuck during the installation, and i want to run on ubuntu, but since i guess the cd was the problem, i want to know if there is a command to burn the image with no errors or w/ever :D
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Rimtech,  i must have 20 different 'desktops/sessions' i can use.
[06:54] <Gamekiller> what ever you like
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> gdm and kdm go ta nice menu.. xdm is too baic. :P
[06:54] <Stork> where is the best place to add something to PATH so it's accessible from the shell?
[06:54] <lupine_85> WiLie: you're using busybox then :)
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> or go OLD-skool disable kdm/gdm and use the console and 'startx'
[06:54] <lupine_85> and no, there's no way to guarantee no errors on a burn
[06:54] <eyequeue> Stork, at the end
[06:54] <Warbo> Stork: /usr/local usually
[06:54] <lupine_85> all you can do is burn, then compare the md5sums
[06:54] <Warbo> Oh, I see
[06:54] <WiLiE> lupine_85:im using Linux XP, dont know what busybox is....
[06:54] <TheInternet> Okay nevermind. I'll just reinstall.
[06:55] <eyequeue> WiLiE, you are not using linux xp
[06:55] <lupine_85> It's what the installer uses
[06:55] <lupine_85> busybox++
[06:55] <Rimtech> Dr_Willis: i just disable gdm at startup and use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:55] <Warbo> Linux XP is a russian Distro I htink
[06:55] <doctorshim> Alright, I've restarted the installer. Hope it works this time...
[06:55] <WiLiE> lupine_85:what do u mean
[06:55] <doctorshim> >.<
[06:55] <WiLiE> lupine_85:yes i am
[06:55] <Gamekiller> gl
[06:55] <eyequeue> WiLiE, this is #ubuntu where we only support ubuntu
[06:55] <lupine_85> eyequeue: he's in the Ubuntu install CD....
[06:55] <Tonren> How do I remotely Start X and enable VNC connections?
[06:56] <lupine_85> (the alt. install)
[06:56] <eyequeue> WiLiE, if you're not on that, please take the traffic elsewhere
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Rimtech,  i edit the .xinitrc and use 'startx' :)
[06:56] <kishore> hi all
[06:56] <lupine_85> WiLiE: all you can do is boot back to windows and try to burn another CD
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  dont want to use vncserver eh? :)
[06:56] <Rimtech> Dr_Willis im not 1337 enough for that, i wouldn't know what to put in
[06:56] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: What d oyou mean...?
[06:56] <lupine_85> you can install from network or hard drive, but it's complicated
[06:56] <kishore> i am unable to find....trash icon on desktop... and also. volumes??
[06:56] <usuario_> ola
[06:56] <lupine_85> howtos are on the wiki
[06:56] <Warbo> Can someone help me with gpg? I don't know which of these strings is the "key ID" I need to publish
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Rimtech,  sample .xinitrc -->   gnome-session  (1 line) then use startx.
[06:57] <doctorshim> kishore: Look at the bottom bar, toward the right.
[06:57] <Caplain> what is root      5342 39.4  0.6   9908  7236 pts/1    Rs+  10:19  61:54 perl /usr/share/setup-tool-backends/scripts/disks-conf --report
[06:57] <doctorshim> There's a teeny trash icon.
[06:57] <WiLiE> lupine_85:cant i just get the command to burn the cd from u guys
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  i often ssh to the remote box and run vncserver
[06:57] <Warbo> kishore: Go into Applications>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor
[06:57] <Rimtech> Dr_Willis: and for xfce?
[06:57] <Caplain>  ?
[06:57] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Oh, it's a package I can download?  Awesome
[06:57] <eyequeue> !root > Caplain
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Rimtech,  read the xfce docs. :P
[06:58] <CromagDK> !flash
[06:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:58] <kishore> Warbo, then
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  vnc4server works best for me. the share the desktop under gnome. is using vnc.. they just tweaked it.. vnc is a very flexiable tool.
[06:58] <lupine_85> WiLiE: you're in a minimal install system
[06:58] <lupine_85> the command is neither installed, or installable
[06:58] <lupine_85> Caplain: some script being run by root
[06:58] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: What's the diff. between vncserver and vnc4server?
[06:58] <Warbo> kishore: System Tools>Configuration Editor (enable it)
[06:59] <lupine_85> presumably it's being run by cron or... something
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  vncserver is often used as the genric term for the other vncservers from the othe variants
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  thers about 5 variants on vnc that i know of.
[06:59] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Ah, I see
[06:59] <eyequeue> !info vncserver
[06:59] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[06:59] <eyequeue> !info vnc4server
[06:59] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[06:59] <Caplain> lupine_85: well i wouldnt be concerned but its taking up 100% of my cpu
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> and the  vncserver  program is a SCRIPT - you can read it and learn a lot.
[06:59] <Warbo> kishore: Then go into the menu and open that up (Configuration Editor)
[06:59] <Caplain> is it safe to kill?
[06:59] <lupine_85> Caplain: sudo kill 5342 if you're brave
[06:59] <Warbo> kishore: You can find the options you want in apps>nautilus
[06:59] <lupine_85> it might be - or it might not
[07:00] <lupine_85> only one way to find out ;)
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  and rember to kill the vncserver  - use 'vncserver -kill :1 ' (or other #)
[07:00] <Caplain> hrm....
[07:00] <lupine_85> then feel free to feel blowed
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  you can even set up vnc to auto-spawn a vncsession and get to the gdm login screen
[07:00] <WiLiE> lol
[07:00] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Badass.
[07:00] <lupine_85> next time verify your CD before you boot into it
[07:00] <WiLiE> i did verify the cd
[07:00] <WiLiE> !
[07:01] <lupine_85> then it isn't corrupted
[07:01] <WiLiE> during the boot of the cd i hit the verify thingy!
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  vnc is a UBER-flexiable and handy tool. :P
[07:01] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Freakin' A.
[07:01] <eyequeue> lupine_85, is this another of those things we mentioned yesterday? :/  sounds it
[07:01] <Warbo> please help me sign the Ubuntu COC!
[07:02] <WiLiE> ok, lupine_85 , just tell me what usually happens when verify cd is hit, to make is easier for me, :P
[07:02] <visik7> anyone with an asus v6 laptop ?
[07:02] <eyequeue> Warbo, did you go through the ubuntero instructions on the wiki/launchpad?
[07:02] <Toaster> anyone used firestarter over ssh/shell ?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Toaster,  be sure to not kill off the ssh ports. :P
[07:02] <kishore> Warbo, even them i am unable..
[07:03] <Toaster> Dr_Willis, point :;P
[07:03] <Toaster> but how can I configure it? Do I have to edit the /etc/firestarter/firewall file?
[07:03] <kishore> Warbo, ok ok
[07:03] <silverfox> does anyone here uses freenx ?
[07:03] <kishore> Warbo, thank uu
[07:03] <ravenous> silverfox: yes
[07:03] <WiLiE> ok, lupine_85 , just tell me what usually happens when verify cd is hit, to make is easier for me, :P
[07:03] <Warbo> eyequeue: They say to send my key to a server using the --server option of gpg, but this gives an error that server isn't an option, and I also don't know which of these strings is my key ID
[07:03] <ravenous> Toaster: firestarter is a GUI program
[07:04] <silverfox> ravenous,  wich version do u use?
[07:04] <Lam_> is there a way (via program or linux kernal or whatnot) to encrypt certain files to require the sudo command to read them by the user, but make them readable by what program is using it by default (like the gaim accounts.xml file)
[07:04] <Toaster> ravenous, quote from their webpage: ... server. Firestarter can be installed onto individual servers and managed graphically over SSH or using the shell.
[07:04] <ravenous> Toaster: notice the graphically part
[07:05] <ravenous> silverfox: the one from seveas' repo
[07:05] <gameover422> i'm having problems burning CDs
[07:05] <Oni-Dracula> isn't firestarter just an interface for iptables and SNORT?
[07:05] <Warbo> Lam_: Programs are usually run as your user, so if you want GAIM to access a file then your user needs access to it
[07:05] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: I'm running a session of rtorrent in a login shell.  How do I make it keep going even after I close the connection?
[07:05] <ravenous> Oni-Dracula: frontend for iptables
[07:05] <silverfox> ravenous, same as me, do u have problems to use nomachine client 2.0 ?
[07:05] <tigfour> Tonren: Use screen
[07:05] <Oni-Dracula> and snort :)
[07:05] <diego_cl> did someone try to make emule and amule to work together ???? as a way to keep downloading the same files being in windows or in linux
[07:05] <Lam_> shoot. i guess there isn't a way to make the passwords inside of the gaim accounts.xml not readable
[07:05] <Warbo> diego_cl: They use the same format for temporary files
[07:05] <eyequeue> Warbo, okay, can you list your key on a terminal?
[07:05] <gameover422> i'm having issues when trying to burn cds
[07:05] <tigfour> Lam_: Are they in clear text!?!
[07:06] <ravenous> silverfox: is that the web extension?
[07:06] <Lam_> yeah
[07:06] <Warbo> hang on, I've got to go. Be back in a minute...
[07:06] <Tonren> tigfour: I've heard of screen before, and tried to understand, but I just can't figure out how it works.
[07:06] <Lam_> gaim user passwords are stored in plain text
[07:06] <tigfour> Lam_: Holy Moly!
[07:06] <silverfox> ravenous,  no, the windows/nix client
[07:06] <tigfour> Tonren: please type /join #Tonren
[07:06] <silverfox> i haven't tried the web extension yet
[07:06] <Tonren> tigfour: It seems like an extremely powerful tool, but... I can't figure it out
[07:06] <Caplain> how do i enable hyperthreading or muliple cpus?
[07:06] <silverfox> do u have a experience w the web client ?
[07:06] <ravenous> silverfox: whatever client he has is what i installed, i just did a sudo apt-get install freenx after that
[07:06] <diego_cl> Warbo: do you know for sure that they CAN work together?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  thats what 'screen' is designed for. :P
[07:07] <eyequeue> Warbo, for example, does "gpg --fingerprint warbo" work properly?
[07:07] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Aye.  I don't know how to use it, though.  I've perused the man pages before, but...
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  i also often set up a vnc session and run ktorrent or other torrent tool for similer jobs
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> google for screen tutorials
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> the basics are easy.
[07:07] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: The only torrent tool that I've managed to get working is rtorrent
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  oh? i tend to use ktorrent, or wine utorrent.exe , ctorret and rtorrent are handy also.
[07:08] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: well, that and bittornado-gui, but i like rtorrent better because it's CLI.
[07:08] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: What is ktorrent, exactly?  I didn't know wine worked well with utorrent.  I've never heard of ctorrent
[07:08] <Warbo> diego_cl: I used to use eMule on Windows, copied the temporary folder over to Linux and carried on with aMule, then imported them into MLDonkey which is what I use now
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  thers some some web-interfaced torrent client out. that ive never messed with
[07:08] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: That'd be interesting
[07:08] <gameover422> can someone help me with burning an iso?
[07:09] <erUSUL> !iso
[07:09] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:09] <Rimtech> I have a problem, I'm trying to dnable XDMCP like it says in a walkthrough, but it won't let me, the option isn't there, it says "System->Administration->Login Screen Setup > Tab Security->Enable XDMCP > Tab XDMCP--> You can disable "Honor Indirect Requests""
[07:09] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: The thing is that my school slows down EVERYTHING but SSH, so if I download torrents on my remote server and THEN rsync them to my laptop, it doesn't take as long
[07:09] <Tonren> gameover422: right-click it in nautilus -> burn to CD
[07:09] <eyequeue> Warbo?
[07:10] <Warbo> eyequeue: I get a fingerprint, but can't shove it into Launchpad because I haven't uploaded my key to a server (I think)
[07:10] <j^2> hey all
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  a ssh tunnel may be what you need. :P
[07:10] <gameover422> Tonren: I know, but it just gets stuck on preparing.  I left it alone for an 1 1/2 hours to burn a 50MB image
[07:10] <doctorshim> Woo. It worked.
[07:10] <j^2> where can i find a repo with djbdns in?
[07:10] <eyequeue> Warbo, okay, can you paste me that one line please?
[07:10] <Warbo> eyequeue: Which one?
[07:10] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: I think so, I haven't experimented with it yet though
[07:11] <Tonren> gameover422: Lame.  Perhaps the image is corrupted?
[07:11] <eyequeue> Warbo, the fingerprint, all the hexadecimal characters
[07:11] <diego_cl> how can I add the "nsl=utf8" protocol for the "ntfs-3g" driver in the FSTAB ?????
[07:11] <Warbo> 46BF DD3C 35CC 2FB2 B7EA  01B9 9ED1 BD9E DFA0 91FB
[07:11] <paulm> how can i edit the fstab for a new hard drive?
[07:11] <gameover422> Tonren: I thought so too.  The image checked out fine when I verified it, and it does this with every iso, audio, or data file I try to burn
[07:11] <Caplain> is there a place i can get the current kernel config?
[07:12] <Tonren> gameover422: Ahhh.  Weird.  Hmm.... I'm not sur eabout that
[07:12] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?  I have asked on the forum and no answer there...please anyone?
[07:12] <Warbo> paulm: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab", then copy one of the lines there and fiddle with it to fit your new drive
[07:13] <eyequeue> Warbo, your keyid is DFA091FB     try gpg --list-key 0xDFA091FB  to confirm :)
[07:13] <paulm> Warbo  thats the problem I have, still a bit of a noob and i dont know what to change it to
[07:13] <j^2> where can i find a repo with djbdns in?
[07:13] <eyequeue> !info djbdns
[07:13] <ubotu> Package djbdns does not exist in any distro I know
[07:13] <Warbo> TokenBad: I saw your question on the forum, but decided not to answer incase i was wrong I I screwed your disc :)
[07:13] <Warbo> eyequeue: OK thanks
[07:13] <j^2> lame
[07:13] <eyequeue> j^2, we don't support him here, see ubotu ^^
[07:13] <j^2> thanks
[07:13] <j^2> eyequeue: odd it's on the forums
[07:14] <eyequeue> j^2, lots of bad advice is :/
[07:14] <j^2> but it was pulled from debian because its "fully" free
[07:14] <ravenous> randoms post random things on the forums
[07:14] <TokenBad> Warbo, thanks...I have been trying to get an answer for like 24 hours now...and no one seems to know
[07:14] <j^2> thanks anyway
[07:16] <Warbo> paulm: look in system>admin>discs to see what Linux has called your new partitions (hdb1 or something maybe?) then adjust fstab accordingly
[07:16] <gameover422> anybody else know how to fix my burning cd problem?
[07:16] <eyequeue> Warbo, gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --send-key 0xDFA091FB
[07:16] <Warbo> ah
[07:16] <Warbo> --keyserver
[07:16] <Warbo> Launchpad's guide might need updating
[07:17] <eyequeue> Warbo, well, that's if you don't have a default keyserver set up in your config, which i was guessing you may not
[07:18] <eyequeue> Warbo, gpg **--keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net** --send-key 0xDFA091FB    the **'d part, you can change to any server you prefer, or any format
[07:18] <dan271828> gameover422 : i also have some problems with burning stuff... gnomebaker or k3b are interesting GUIs with own features and 1/2 bugs. Else better use directly cdrecord and mkisofs.... NO GUI!
[07:18] <Neo8750> what would be causeing the normal boot dialog like "Mounting File System   [ok] " not to show?
[07:18] <Neo8750> or what controls that?
[07:18] <Warbo> it did send to subkeys.pgp.net when I just ran "--sendkeys", but I have sent it to ubuntu's as well now
[07:18] <dontspitonme> hey all
[07:19] <lazo1> hi..
[07:19] <dontspitonme> i am havin trouble settin up the internet
[07:19] <dontspitonme> on ubuntu
[07:19] <eyequeue> Warbo, are you set from here forward? or still need some help?
[07:19] <dontspitonme> im on the live cd
[07:19] <lazo1> what is the comando for mplayer pluging in firefox?
[07:19] <DexterF> hi
[07:19] <gameover422> dan271828: I tried cdrecord, didn't seem to budge either.  I'll try out gnomebaker, see if that works
[07:19] <Warbo> eyequeue: That's it thanks :)
[07:19] <eyequeue> Warbo, great :)  the CoC is worth the effort, imo, heh
[07:20] <Warbo> gameover422: I had problems writing CDs when I was running my USB harddrive from a USB 1 port
[07:20] <paulm> Warbo , Disks manager says that the status is inaccessible. There is no access path.
[07:20] <lazo1> can some one help please?
[07:20] <dan271828> gameover422; try k3b first (in any case if on k-versions of ubuntu), gnomebaker is apt-get supported, e.g. will ask u always after inseting cd...
[07:20] <ravenous> lazo1: the name of the package? mozilla-mplayer is the plugin for firefox
[07:21] <lazo1> great
[07:21] <lazo1> thanks abunch
[07:21] <paulm> Warbo , when i mount -a in term, its says that /media/hd2 is busy
[07:21] <Warbo> paulm: On the partition you want to add to fstab it should say "Device:    /dev/XXX"
[07:21] <Gamekiller> Ok got one other good one for you all.  Has any one gotten side to side scroll to work at all.  I can not even see the button on xve
[07:21] <paulm> Warbo mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/hd2 busy
[07:21] <jrib> Gamekiller: /me raises hand.  what mouse?
[07:22] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?  I have asked on the forum and no answer there...please anyone?
[07:22] <Gamekiller> explorer 4.0
[07:22] <Gamekiller> M$
[07:22] <jrib> Gamekiller: have you setup evdev?
[07:22] <Warbo> mount -a mounts what is in fstab, so if your drive isn't in fstab it wont mount
[07:22] <Gamekiller> oki read that was not sure
[07:22] <Gamekiller> so i do that next
[07:22] <Gamekiller> is it in synaptic list
[07:23] <paulm> Warbo: yes it has that
[07:23] <jrib> Gamekiller: xserver-xorg-input-evdev but I think it should already be installed, you just need to setup xorg.conf
[07:23] <Gamekiller> ok
[07:24] <Gamekiller> i look for the doc and follow that
[07:24] <paulm> Warbo but then it has (under Options) defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0  1
[07:24] <jrib> Gamekiller: here is how I setup my mx1000, maybe it can help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MX1000Mouse
[07:24] <klaxian> anyone know why my junk email isn't being filtered?  spamassassin is installed and evolution is set to filter junk, but nothing gets filteres
[07:24] <Gamekiller> btw how do you add a service in ubuntu i know hwo to do it in gentoo useing rc-update but not sure what command there is for this distro
[07:24] <Gamekiller> i have not read it to it mroe
[07:24] <Gamekiller> if there is a doc just point me
[07:24] <jrib> Gamekiller: man update-rc.d
[07:24] <j^2> how do i apt-get gcc make and all the others to build from src?
[07:24] <jrib> !b-e
[07:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:24] <j^2> jrib: thanks
[07:25] <jrib> j^2: install build-essential
[07:25] <Gamekiller> perfect thanks
[07:25] <ravenous> j^2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:26] <durruti_36> Hi folks. I have an IBM x21 laptop running both ubuntu and xubuntu, but my machine freezes completely every few minutes. Without X running its stable in both but with X it crashes on either the ati or radeon drivers. For example a repeatable occurence is running df -h - it runs fine at the commandline and fine on live ubuntu (which I'm currently using), but crashes the machine in gnometerminal. I've run both spinrite and memte
[07:28] <Gamekiller> also one other thing that bugs me has any one been able to get the pdf generic printer to work
[07:28] <Gamekiller> i tryed follows some doc but now go yet
[07:28] <eyequeue> !info evince
[07:28] <ubotu> evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 676 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[07:29] <MustangMatt> How can I forward X11 display to a client that is behind NAT?
[07:29] <Gamekiller> hmm thansk eyequeue i take a look
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> MustangMatt: forward the port
[07:31] <MustangMatt> fyrestrtr: What port does X11 run on?
[07:31] <Gamekiller> eyequeue: i already have that and when i try and print to pdf printer i get this error
[07:31] <lupine_85> Gamekiller: any reason you can't just use the export to pdf function in OpenOffice?
[07:32] <MustangMatt> fyrestrtr: looks like 6000
[07:32] <eyequeue> Gamekiller, i don't own a printer, just knew of evince
[07:32] <Gamekiller> ok
[07:32] <dan271828> Gamekiller:  (pdf2ps or pdftops is a good thing to install... evince is the default viewer on gnome based systems, should ``be there'')
[07:32] <Gamekiller> lupine_85: i am using geda
[07:32] <Durruti_36_> scratch that, the machine _does_ also hang with live Ubuntu
[07:32] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?  I have asked on the forum and no answer there...please anyone?
[07:33] <lupine_85> so that's a no then?
[07:33] <Gamekiller> i getting this error generating PDF is not supported
[07:33] <CromagDK> !java
[07:33] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: try remounting it as rw
[07:34] <nixbox> hi all
[07:34] <Gamekiller> dan271828: wicht of the two did you like better
[07:34] <Gamekiller> the schmatic app i using only out puts in .ps but i want to take that and make a pdf to post on my project website
[07:34] <blackline> Anyone with experience of installing amarok 1.4.3 in ubuntu. i found this guide but dont really understand what to do after installing the key. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php
[07:35] <dan271828> ToneBad a bad idea to work with, but a good one to fix things would be to change fstab manually... (last instance please) and make slave rw
[07:35] <blackline> last thing i did was downloading the key and adding it.
[07:35] <leandro> iaewwwwwwwww
[07:35] <eyequeue> Gamekiller, sudo apt-get install gs-common
[07:35] <eyequeue> ps2pdf (1)           - Convert PostScript to PDF using ghostscript
[07:35] <eyequeue> Gamekiller, ^^
[07:36] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, its in fstab as rw
[07:36] <TokenBad> it was working before...now its not...
[07:37] <Gamekiller> ok i try that
[07:37] <Warbo> Anyone know why deskbar-applet an Epiphany might refuse to load, saying dbus "Connection Refused"?
[07:38] <dan271828> Gamekiller: ll /usr/bin/pdf*ps gives me the info: // -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    782 2005-11-17 01:14 /usr/bin/pdf2ps //  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 729304 2006-03-11 02:42 /usr/bin/pdftops  : so  more /usr/bin/pdf2ps gives me a short shell script involving      exec "$gs" $OPTIONS -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pswrite "-sOutputFile=$outfile" $OPTIONS -c save pop -f "$1"  and the other stuff should be binary...
[07:38] <davvs> is there any good command for making a partition and looking at how the disk is parted?
[07:38] <Warbo> "sudo fdisk"
[07:38] <dan271828> Gamekiller: both should be related with tetex (Latex environ't)
[07:38] <davvs> thx Warbo
[07:38] <Warbo> (fdisk -l to list partitions)
[07:38] <eyequeue> davvs, fdisk -l
[07:38] <Gamekiller> yup i see them now
[07:39] <Gamekiller> never fig just to check
[07:39] <Gamekiller> now to find how to use them
[07:39] <Gamekiller> hehe
[07:39] <loveubuntu> where will i find totem's configuration files???
[07:39] <ravenous> how about parted heh
[07:39] <lupine_85> fdisk++
[07:39] <jeeves_Moss> all:  hello all.
[07:40] <dan271828> Gamekiller : that "gs" is ghostscript, done to view postscript files, most printers support ps-files properly
[07:40] <Gamekiller> yah i got it
[07:40] <Gamekiller> ps2pdfwr is what i needed
[07:40] <Gamekiller> just did not know i had it
[07:40] <Gamekiller> go fig
[07:41] <loveubuntu> where will i find totem's configuration files??? the .totem folder???
[07:41] <freshmouse> Hi, can you help me? I installed some package from next version of Ubuntu (I have Drake) and I used GDebi. :-( It downloaded some dependencies -- for example a new version libc6. Then was in Synaptic a problem with the new packages. It recommended me to delete the "broken" packages. I did it. But some programs need libc6 2.3.x, but Synaptic prints: "libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (=2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.4-1ubuntu9 is to be installed". Wha
[07:41] <Gamekiller> that was to easy
[07:41] <jrib> loveubuntu: ~/.gnome2/totem*
[07:42] <jeeves_Moss> all:  has any one installed Gnome 2 yet?
[07:42] <eyequeue> !info libc6 dapper
[07:42] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[07:42] <eyequeue> !info libc6 edgy
[07:42] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 8145 kB, installed size 23316 kB
[07:42] <Warbo> !info gnome
[07:42] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:42] <loveubuntu> jrib, nope its not there
[07:42] <jrib> loveubuntu: hmm I have ~/.gnome2/totem_config and ~/.gnome2/totem-addons/
[07:42] <eyequeue> freshmouse, you should not have 2.4.1, that's edgy, not dapper
[07:42] <Warbo> jeeves_Moss: I htink you'll find Ubuntu comes with GNOME 2, and always has :)
[07:42] <Warbo> *think
[07:43] <eyequeue> freshmouse, edgy is in #ubuntu+1 btw
[07:43] <freshmouse> eyequeue: I know, but installed some programs from Edgy to my Drake.
[07:43] <freshmouse> * but I
[07:43] <jeeves_Moss> Warbo:  I was reading about some of the new graphics and animations for Gnome 2, but I didden't see any of them in this install
[07:43] <eyequeue> freshmouse, therefore you broke your system
[07:43] <Warbo> jeeves_Moss: That's GNOME 2.16
[07:43] <dan271828> freshmouse: u have to delete ``by hand'' the whole tree upwards, till dependencies are removed. E.g. If A depends B1 depends C & u need B2 instead of B1, then u have to remove A (own risk) and B1 to get B2 instead (i think so at least)
[07:44] <Warbo> jeeves_Moss: Which I think is in Edgy (#ubuntu+1)
[07:44] <Gamekiller> thanks guys i got the pdf with ps2pdf just did not know i had the command
[07:44] <lupine_85> !info gnome edgy
[07:44] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:44] <lupine_85> that's not 2.16
[07:44] <jeeves_Moss> Warbo:  isn't it just a repository addition to get it?
[07:44] <eyequeue> freshmouse, if you want such things in the future, apt-get -b source foo, don't install wrong debs
[07:45] <Warbo> jeeves_Moss: Maybe. I am actually after it myself because the deskbar-applet has been improved (so maybe now I can actually read what it says with white text)
[07:45] <jeeves_Moss> Warbo:  LOL
[07:45] <Warbo> freshmouse: DO NOT uninstall libc6 if you are trying to fix your system :)
[07:45] <lupine_85> :)
[07:45] <drbashir> anyone have experience using ddclient? (a dyndns update client)
[07:45] <eyequeue> jeeves_Moss, freshmouse, a change to edgy is not advised, /list #ubuntu+1
[07:45] <Warbo> got to go
[07:45] <lupine_85> edgy is... surprisingly ok
[07:46] <paulm> Warbo I've gotten it to mount, but how do i get i to mount to /media and be recognised on the desktop? I also think i might have overwritten my /media file in the process
[07:46] <lupine_85> well, the kubuntu version anywa
[07:46] <lupine_85> install is still a mess though :/
[07:46] <justlazy> can aanybody can explain me why there is nor internet on ubutu and it is on win?
[07:46] <freshmouse> dan271828, eyequeue: Do you recommend me to upgrade to Edgy.
[07:46] <justlazy> http://uosis.mif.vu.lt/~tozu2754/linux/
[07:46] <paulm> I've gotten my new harddrive to mount, but how do i get i to mount to /media and be recognised on the desktop? I also think i might have overwritten my /media file in the process
[07:46] <eyequeue> lupine_85, after how much work you did?  :)  plus, have you seen the gtk2 complaints today, not being able to boot it?
[07:46] <justlazy> for some futher info
[07:46] <jeeves_Moss> Warbo:  I use my Ubuntu install on my laptop if I'm out and about in public.  I'm trying to get my BlueTooth adaptor to work.  But I can't figure out why it won't work.
[07:46] <lupine_85> gtk2? What's that then? :)
[07:46] <eyequeue> freshmouse, /list #ubuntu+1    no
[07:46] <lupine_85> no, I wouldn't recommend any one use it
[07:47] <jeeves_Moss> eyequeue:  Well, it would be nice if we could get a stable version of it.
[07:47] <eyequeue> freshmouse, or /join #ubuntu+1   and then /topic     no
[07:47] <eyequeue> jeeves_Moss, late october
[07:47] <ateniy> Hi, just installed ubuntu (I usually use a different distro) but when it starts up the "a, b, c" keyboard keys don't work. They work in windows & sid. What's going on?
[07:47] <dan271828> freshmouse: no idea what Edgy is... (I'm runnin' that Ubuntu 6.06 after upgade from Breezy 5.10)
[07:47] <eyequeue> !edgy
[07:47] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:47] <jeeves_Moss> eyequeue: are you any good @ solving adaptor issues?
[07:47] <ChaosFan> !schedule
[07:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:47] <freshmouse> eyequeue: OK, OK, OK, I'm there. ?-)
[07:49] <dan271828> freshmouse: global upgrade can produce problems of the same kind with other packages, that have ``somewhere'' on the net the newer versions... (i had some)
[07:49] <JoaoJoao> hello
[07:49] <ravenous> has anyone encountered this nonsense installing totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, wanting the OLD totem-gstreamer? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23233
[07:50] <JoaoJoao> is there any chance for the JMicron to get into a new Dapper version?
[07:50] <jeeves_Moss> eyeqeue:  any ideas on this USB adaptor?
[07:51] <jeeves_Moss> Warbo:  any ideas on this USB adaptor?
[07:51] <eyequeue> jeeves_Moss, no idea really
[07:52] <stjepan> hi
[07:52] <stjepan> anyone knows what are called pingus which jump on your desktop and windows?
[07:52] <tetsuo> hey! can someone point me to a live linux cd with 2.6.18-rcX kernel? I want to try if my SATA controller will work before rebuilding the ubuntu installer with this kernel
[07:52] <samalex> is there any update manager that'll auto update security fixes and application/os patches to Ubuntu like Red Hat used to have?  Just curious.
[07:52] <jeeves_Moss> eyequeue  ok, thnaks.  It's just annoying me that I can't find anything to make it work
[07:52] <ravenous> JoaoJoao: afaik there wont be any dapper additions anymore other than security updates, the repositories get frozen upon release
[07:52] <ravenous> samalex: of course
[07:53] <samalex> i've yet to install Ubuntu, so just curious if it had this feature.  I remember Red Hat had it, and I loved it -- would download kernal updates and everything, but wasn't sure if Ubuntu did.
[07:53] <ravenous> samalex: update-manager gives you an icon whenever something new is released
[07:53] <samalex> nice!
[07:53] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can any one help me with this USB adaptor?  its a "1131:1001 Integrated System Solution Corp."
[07:54] <samalex> i'm still debating on whether to do Linux or FreeBSD on my work system, so looking at pros and cons of both.
[07:54] <JoaoJoao> I tried FreeBSD
[07:55] <JoaoJoao> A few hours, then I gave up
[07:55] <coldboot> Does anyone here have the Ikea Jerker Computer Desk in their room right now? I know it's offtopic, but it's likely that someone here does...
[07:55] <samalex> I've used Linux for about 10 years now, but going to OSX on my primary desktop two years ago I've kinda lost touch with Linux.  Now I want to get it back up, but i'm reading some great things about freebsd.
[07:55] <ravenous> coldboot: try #ubuntu-offtopic then
[07:56] <vdepizzol> My gnome-terminal is not working
[07:56] <vdepizzol> why I type 'gnome-terminal' in xterm, this error appear: 'gnome-terminal: symbol lockup error: gnome-terminal: undefined sumbol: vte_terminal_set_opacity
[07:56] <elljay> I have a nvidia geforce 6800ultra.  I have the nividia driver installed.  Gnome wont let me set the res above 1024x768.. any ideas?
[07:57] <aluno> hi
[07:58] <tetsuo> any hints on how to change the kernel the ubuntu installer uses?
[07:59] <ravenous> tetsuo: create a custom livecd?
[08:00] <doublehp> bug: it happens under X that what I hit o kbd does not show on screen; not CPU saturation or lag problem; had that last year under Gentoo. not board problem, does not happen under console; what could help tracking ?
[08:01] <el_taco> I have probably an easy problem to solve.. when in thunderbird and I click on a link it opens in konqeuror even though I have firefox as default browser under the KDE components.. any have a clue on where else to look?.
[08:01] <ravenous> has anyone encountered this nonsense installing totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, wanting the OLD totem-gstreamer? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23233
[08:02] <DethKlok> Is there a command line AIM?
[08:03] <doublehp> DethKlok: yes ... seeking for name
[08:03] <tetsuo> ravenous: that would be great. any hint on where to start?
[08:03] <danrez> can I boot diskless and wireless (atheros) with ubuntu dapper and access ltsp ??
[08:03] <danrez> via cd-rom
[08:03] <essdee> how do you restore xorg.conf from term using the xorg.conf.backup?
[08:03] <Ash-Fox> Does anyone know how to pass sound from one computer to another? (I've setup some old pentium 3's to behave as dumb terminals to one of my servers [ssh tunneling with xorg] , basically I want sound on the dumb terminals)
[08:04] <doublehp> DethKlok: centericq
[08:04] <ravenous> essdee: delete the new one and rename it xorg.conf
[08:04] <essdee> create a new one? what command should i use in term? (im a linux noob lol)
[08:05] <doublehp> DethKlok: centericq (gentoo specs) Homepage:    http://thekonst.net/en/centericq Description: A ncurses ICQ/Yahoo!/AIM/IRC/MSN/Jabber/GaduGadu/RSS/LiveJournal Client  License:     GPL-2 Size of downloaded files: 4,166 kB
[08:05] <ravenous> essdee: delete the one your using now that doesnt work and rename the backup xorg.conf
[08:05] <gdey> Ash-fox I believe you use esd for something like that.
[08:05] <ravenous> tetsuo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[08:05] <Ash-Fox> gdey, thankyou
[08:05] <Ash-Fox> !esd
[08:05] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> !alsa
[08:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:06] <essdee> ravenous, could you give me the inputs into term?  i really dont know what im doing with the command line
[08:06] <gansinho> please, could someone help me with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239378 ... please
[08:07] <JoaoJoao> any advices on how to install Ubuntu in a comp with a JMicron IDE controller?
[08:07] <khaije1> Q: what are the differences between the desktop and server version for 6.06?
[08:07] <nmbooker_> hi.  anyone know anything ubuntu's default gateway settings?
[08:07] <khaije1> is it only defualt packages, cuz it seems there is a different kernel used also...?
[08:07] <ravenous> essdee: 'mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.other' or something, then do 'mv xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf'
[08:08] <khaije1> nmbooker_: the deafult settings are dhcp, i'm not suer what you are asking..?
[08:08] <ravenous> khaije1: should have  the same kernel actually, just package difference
[08:08] <essdee> ok thanks
[08:09] <danrez> how can I boot diskless and wireless (atheros) with ubuntu and access ltsp ??
[08:09] <chiefinnovator> Is this the ubuntu chat?
[08:09] <nmbooker_> khaijel: the problem i've got is that ubuntu seems to set up a default gateway automatically, which means the script aciadsl-start i need to use to start the ADSL router cannot do it.  it prints Adding default route... SIOCADDRT: File exists
[08:09] <danrez> may I customize livecd?
[08:09] <ravenous> chiefinnovator: ubuntu support yes
[08:09] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, support, yes
[08:10] <chiefinnovator> thanks!
[08:10] <ravenous> danrez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[08:10] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, offtopic chatter is elsewhere, if you want that
[08:10] <chiefinnovator> Are the repositories down today?
[08:10] <danrez> ravenous: thanks
[08:10] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, working for me presently
[08:10] <ravenous> chiefinnovator: and me as well
[08:10] <khaije1> ravenous: thx, I'm thinking about getting ambitious w/ xen
[08:10] <khaije1> :-)
[08:10] <chiefinnovator> I get a message: couldn't not download all repository indexes
[08:10] <lupine_85> (UK)
[08:10] <aluno> they alguem knows which is universal password of windows 2000?
[08:11] <chiefinnovator> What could cause that?
[08:11] <khaije1> nmbooker_: google static routes (not sure how to do this of the top of my head)
[08:11] <lupine_85> broken mirror?
[08:11] <Chris_Swift> Guys can you help me, "Totem could not startup. Could not establish connection to sound server" is the message in Totem Movie Player also in JuK i press play on the mp3 but it doesnt even try to play! I can tell because the search bar doesnt move :( If anyone can help please do  thanks from Chris
[08:11] <chiefinnovator> I just did a fresh install
[08:11] <chiefinnovator> Are there special settings I should try?
[08:11] <||arifaX> can someone take a look at http://nopaste.biz/?7994 I have problems installing freenx on dapper (kubuntu)
[08:11] <uNfOrGiViNg> aluno: go to google
[08:11] <nmbooker_> ok thanks.
[08:11] <chiefinnovator> automatix won't work either.  Am I having an apt issue?
[08:12] <chiefinnovator> Is there any kind of apt troubleshooting guide?
[08:12] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, first, do you have drive space?
[08:12] <khaije1> nmbooker_: when you say "start" modem what do you mean? is it internal?
[08:12] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue,  Oh yeah, plenty of space
[08:12] <ravenous> automatix is evil, hopefully thats not why its broken
[08:12] <chiefinnovator> ravenous, ha ha
[08:12] <essdee> how do i create a new xorg.conf file
[08:12] <doublehp> bug: it happens under X that what I hit o kbd does not show on screen; not CPU saturation or lag problem; had that last year under Gentoo. not board problem, does not happen under console; what could help tracking ?
[08:13] <chiefinnovator> but nonetheless I at least need Ubuntu updates
[08:13] <essdee> apparantly my backup also is corrupt
[08:13] <ravenous> chiefinnovator: im serious, id check your sources.list for sure and make sure it hasn't been tampered with
[08:13] <chiefinnovator> ravenous, well I just did a fresh install (dapper), then went to update and it gives me the error messages
[08:13] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, rerun this:  sudo apt-get update
[08:13] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, Ok, brb
[08:15] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, I get a lot of error messages.  How can I send them to you without flooding the room?
[08:15] <ravenous> !pastebin
[08:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:15] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, watch the bot
[08:15] <eyequeue> !paste > chiefinnovator
[08:16] <essdee> my x is screwed
[08:16] <chiefinnovator> neat service
[08:16] <erUSUL> essdee: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:16] <essdee> i did
[08:17] <essdee> twice
[08:17] <chiefinnovator> Results of running apt-get update are at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23235
[08:17] <essdee> and still is having config problems
[08:18] <paulm> How can i get a new Hard Drive to be recognised on the Desktop?
[08:18] <chiefinnovator> Has anyone looked at my pastebin yet? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23235
[08:18] <essdee> time to reformat i suppose
[08:18] <essdee> woo how exciting
[08:18] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, i will now, sorry
[08:19] <redubuntu> hola
[08:19] <redubuntu> espaol
[08:19] <erUSUL> !es
[08:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:19] <tetsuo> how can I do to compile a 2.6.18-rc6 kernel with the same configuration as the kernel shipped with ubuntu?
[08:19] <lupine_85> esdee: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core IIRC
[08:19] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, that's fine.  The most prevalent message seems to be: Connection failed [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] 
[08:19] <erUSUL> essdee: post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin
[08:19] <lupine_85> tetsuo, run make oldconfig before make menuconfig
[08:19] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, all of those failures, it looks like one of two things
[08:19] <nmbooker_> khaije1: (sorry for delay) the modem has a userspace driver, and this script does everything from loading firmware through authenticating to establishing default route.  it's the last bit it fails on.  I can sudo route add default gw remote-ip but this machine's for a complete newbie
[08:20] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, you have no internet connectivity
[08:20] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, but I'm here now!
[08:20] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, or you have no name resolution, and it does seem to resolve them to ip addresses
[08:20] <tetsuo> lupine_85: I download the src deb from ubuntu, uncompress it, copy the .config over the newer source and run make oldconfig ?
[08:20] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, using ubuntu?  quite odd
[08:20] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, so it must be name resolution.  How do I get me some of that?
[08:20] <essdee> how do i read the log from term?
[08:20] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, Yeah, it's the same computer.
[08:20] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, try this change please
[08:21] <chiefinnovator> So I want to get me some name resoultion
[08:21] <lupine_85> essdee: cat /var/log/<logfile>
[08:21] <essdee> ty
[08:21] <erUSUL> essdee: less cat /var/log/<logfile>
[08:21] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, now that I think about it, this is happening on both of my computers.  Perhaps it's a router issue?
[08:21] <erUSUL> essdee: less /var/log/<logfile>
[08:21] <paulm> How can i get a new Hard Drive to be recognised on the Desktop?
[08:21] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list .... and change all "archive.ubuntu.com" to "uk.archive.ubuntu.com"
[08:22] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, ok brb
[08:22] <erUSUL> essdee: with cat it would scroll too fast
[08:22] <lupine_85> |less ?
[08:22] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, then rerun this:  sudo apt-get update
[08:22] <lupine_85> erm, ignore me :)
[08:22] <essdee> k
[08:22] <essdee> yes it did scroll much too fast
[08:22] <erUSUL> lupine_85: less is a pager the same one used with man pages
[08:22] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, currently they are all us.archive ...
[08:22] <essdee> however it does say Fatal server error: "no screens found"
[08:22] <erUSUL> lupine_85: more and most are alternative pagers
[08:23] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, same sort of errors, but with a different ip address?
[08:23] <lupine_85> mmm, I usualy use |less, but just realised it's somewhat redundant :)
[08:23] <optimusprime> how can I install the latest version of Flash?
[08:23] <lupine_85> in linux? you can't
[08:23] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, same errors different IP yes
[08:23] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, if so, your name resolution works, but i don't know why you can't connect
[08:23] <lupine_85> 7 is the latest version available for linux
[08:23] <erUSUL> lupine_85: by far the more usefull comands in cli imho (when diagnosing problems)
[08:24] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, we do know dns is not the trouble at least
[08:24] <lupine_85> definitely :)
[08:24] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, I'm thinking it's something with my router?
[08:24] <chiefinnovator> It's a netgear and one time I was banned from this forum becasuse of my router?  Could that be related?
[08:24] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, if you have access to that, admin, then it is worth looking into
[08:24] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, what would I look for?
[08:25] <drbashir> How do I burn an ISO to disk within ubuntu?
[08:25] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, banned here?  router?  i'm trying to imagine why
[08:25] <ravenous> eyequeue: /dcc exploit maybe
[08:25] <erUSUL> drbashir: right click in nautilus> burn to cd
[08:25] <eyequeue> drbashir, cdrecord, or any similar method
[08:25] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, ha ha, I have no idea.
[08:25] <Chris_Swift> Anyone in a Linux group or has distributed more then 20 (K/Edu/X/U)buntu disks here?
[08:25] <paulm> How can i get a new Hard Drive to be recognised on the Desktop?
[08:25] <erUSUL> !iso > drbashir
[08:25] <chiefinnovator> eyequeue, any ideas what I should look for on my router admin page?
[08:25] <eyequeue> ravenous, i was wondering if that was it
[08:26] <eyequeue> chiefinnovator, hrm, something about routing?  banned sites?  i'm out of ideas on that, perhaps someone else has suggestions
[08:26] <erUSUL> paulm: add a line to fstab for the disk or use System>Admin>Disks
[08:26] <mi> hee
[08:26] <VR_> question: is it illegal to change one's MAC address?
[08:27] <lupine_85> VR_: no
[08:27] <hadi>  I'm already download theme as .tar.gz for (Icewm) how do I add him to themes. I try copy it to ~/.themes but does not work?
[08:27] <eyequeue> VR_, funny laws :)  but no, it's common
[08:27] <VR_> heheh
[08:27] <VR_> okay, thank you
[08:27] <paulm> erUSUL: I'v edited fstab but I want it to auto boot to /media   How do i do that? Is that the addition in fstab?
[08:27] <optimusprime> gksudo nautilus??
[08:27] <minny> hey
[08:27] <VR_> i just thought maybe, since it could happen that i assign the same MAC as someone else may have
[08:27] <lupine_85> well, it might be under certain circumstances covered by the Computer Misuse Act (UK)
[08:28] <lupine_85> taking over someone else's MAC address is very interesting :)
[08:28] <erUSUL> paulm: automount? add the keyword auto to the options section in the fstab line
[08:28] <eyequeue> VR_, no law there, but perhaps you could say it's against "niceness" :)
[08:28] <lupine_85> in Windows, they get a huge flood of dialogue boxes bout it
[08:28] <hadi>  I'm already download theme as .tar.gz for (Icewm) how do I add him to themes. I try copy it to ~/.themes but does not work?
[08:28] <erUSUL> !repeat > hadi
[08:28] <chiefinnovator> I'm going to do some research on my Connection failed [IP: 146.137.96.7 80]  issue. I'll be back soon.  Thanks for the help
[08:28] <VR_> eyequeue: got it. thanks.
[08:29] <hadi> i know :)
[08:29] <Chris_Swift> Hey guys how can i add another HD to Ubuntu it wont appear in Computer :S
[08:29] <instabin> !ads
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ads - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Michalosso> can someone help me?
[08:29] <essdee> ubuntuforums.org really is extremely slow :(
[08:29] <instabin> !activedirectory
[08:29] <ubotu> You can learn more about ActiveDirectory intergration at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[08:29] <Michalosso> i have newest ubuntu - live cd
[08:29] <paulm> erUSUL right i've done that but i think i'll need a reboot so ill get back to you in a couple mins, thanks in advance if it does work.
[08:29] <lupine_85> !mount
[08:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:29] <eyequeue> Michalosso, meaning dapper?  edgy?
[08:29] <Michalosso> and i can't install it
[08:29] <Michalosso> ano
[08:29] <Michalosso> yes
[08:30] <erUSUL> pulpen: yw
[08:30] <eyequeue> Michalosso, which version?
[08:30] <Michalosso> 6.06
[08:30] <Michalosso> it can't read my hdd
[08:30] <minny> solo hablo en espaol
[08:30] <Michalosso> and i can't install ubuntu
[08:30] <jrib> !es
[08:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:31] <eyequeue> Michalosso, there was a big in the 6.06 livecd installer, the 6.06.1 version fixed that (and 300 other bugs)
[08:31] <minny> ahy alguien q hable espaol
[08:31] <eyequeue> !es > minny
[08:31] <Michalosso> i think, that it haven't drivers for my motherboard
[08:31] <minny> hey
[08:32] <nataraj_> do the packages opened by the package manager, through firefox, get detroyed after installation?
[08:32] <Michalosso> i have this MB http://www.asrock.com/product/775Dual-VSTA.htm
[08:32] <minny> dime
[08:32] <savant42> can I upgrade the kernel with apt-get?
[08:32] <eyequeue> savant42, yes
[08:32] <er4z0r> savant42:generally yes
[08:33] <minny> dime
[08:33] <eyequeue> savant42, what did you need?  686?
[08:33] <ravenous> to a point
[08:33] <minny> hablas espaol
[08:33] <savant42> I tried doing a dist-upgrade (so I can get a kernel with sources that are actually IN the repository) but it kept it at 2.6.15-20-server
[08:33] <eyequeue> minny, /join #ubuntu-es
[08:33] <eyequeue> !es
[08:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:33] <er4z0r> savant42: you can install the linux-image-<arch>
[08:33] <instabin> !ntpdate
[08:33] <ubotu> ntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 160 kB
[08:34] <eyequeue> minny, escuche ubotu
[08:34] <tuna> I seem to have lost the usual panel editing tools that are on panels, so when I left click on an empty panel I only get "help". Could someone please tell me where I can turn them back on?
[08:34] <savant42> just apt-get the image file and voila?
[08:34] <er4z0r> savant42: that package usualy contains a dependency to the current kernel
[08:34] <eyequeue> savant42, dapper is designed for 2.6.15 only
[08:34] <instabin> Im haveing a problem my my ubuntu 6.06.1 server. I do not have /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[08:34] <er4z0r> btw. anyone else pls correct me if I am wrong
[08:34] <instabin> How do i get it there
[08:35] <eyequeue> savant42, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686, if you want the 686 version of 2.6.15
[08:35] <minny> mmmmmm
[08:35] <minny> q mal
[08:35] <savant42> I've got 2.6.15-20, but the headers/source for it are not in the repository. I'm I being illogical in thinking I should just change to one whose headers are in the repos?
[08:35] <essdee> can i edit the xorg.conf through term?
[08:35] <erUSUL> minny: este es un canal en inls si quieres preguntar en espaol entra en #ubuntu-es
[08:36] <er4z0r> instabin: and you have the ntpdate package installed?
[08:36] <savant42> like 2.6.15-23, for example
[08:36] <eyequeue> instabin, sudo apt-get --reinstall install ntpdate
[08:36] <erUSUL> essdee: yes with any editor you like ('sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf')
[08:36] <eyequeue> !info linux-headers
[08:36] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in any distro I know
[08:36] <essdee> k ty
[08:36] <eyequeue> !info linux-headers-2.6.15
[08:36] <instabin> er4z0r : yes it says its already install
[08:36] <ubotu> Package linux-headers-2.6.15 does not exist in any distro I know
[08:36] <eyequeue> sigh
[08:36] <instabin> eyequeue : will try that and see what happens
[08:37] <lupine_85> !linux-headers-2.6.15-26-383
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers-2.6.15-26-383 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <lupine_85> !linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[08:37] <erUSUL> eyequeue: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[08:37] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386: Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 836 kB, installed size 22988 kB
[08:37] <eyequeue> erUSUL, gracias, mi espanol es malo :)
[08:37] <Chris_Swift> !linux
[08:37] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:37] <ravenous> !msgthebot
[08:37] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:38] <instabin> Still not there guys
[08:38] <instabin> This is ubuntu server
[08:38] <eyequeue> erUSUL, but 2.6.15 is dapper :(
[08:38] <Chris_Swift> !porn
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Sync__> LOL
[08:38] <ravenous> wow obviously doesnt read well
[08:38] <erUSUL> eyequeue: de nada! no need i'm native speaker
[08:38] <er4z0r> instabin: did you do any custom setup of ntpdate?
[08:38] <instabin> no
[08:39] <instabin> i just change the config file /etc/default/ntpdate
[08:39] <danrez> is possible to boot livecd and it reads some configurations on floppy ?
[08:39] <Gamekiller> man i got some other questions about ubuntu and and the kernel package.  Right now i have the 386 package install would i gain much if where to switch to the P4 as i have a P4 or is there only marginal gain in performance
[08:39] <er4z0r> thats what I would call a customization
[08:40] <instabin> I just change the ntpserver
[08:40] <instabin> the one it gets the time from
[08:40] <eyequeue> Gamekiller, linux-image-686    some say yes, some say no, but it wont hurt
[08:40] <comtechsystems> Gamekiller, everything is pretty marginal
[08:40] <ravenous> Gamekiller: if you noticed id be surprised
[08:40] <Gamekiller> i use a lot of 3D apps
[08:40] <danrez> er4z0r: but have to customize livecd or this have some support to load configurations on other device ?
[08:40] <comtechsystems> some specific things run better
[08:41] <danrez> i could create one cd image with X floppy configs
[08:41] <Gamekiller> ok as i am a gentoo user that converted and i am use to setting everything to the right settings was not sure how it would work
[08:41] <danrez> like thinstation
[08:41] <er4z0r> instabin: hmm I also do not have a normal Sys-V entry for ntpdate
[08:41] <er4z0r> instabin: instead it is started on ifup here
[08:41] <paulm> erUSUL didnt work, sorry. Would this be the correct type of line in the options colume? defaults,auto,utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[08:42] <Gamekiller> is there anything i should watch out for when i check it off in synaptic
[08:42] <eyequeue> Gamekiller, gentoo?  then you have bw :)  sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[08:42] <DexterF> hey why is there no /etc/resolv.conf in 6.06?!
[08:42] <DexterF> where do I set the nameserver?
[08:42] <er4z0r> instabin: did you already do some "locate ntpdate"?
[08:42] <graft> yo, does anyone know of a neat trillian-style wikipedia-word-linking plugin/script for gaim?
[08:42] <jared777> I just got kismet going so i thought I would try Gkismet but it asks for a server what is that about?
[08:42] <eyequeue> Gamekiller, that will always depend on the latest dapper kernel
[08:42] <Gamekiller> ok
[08:42] <Gamekiller> i use to makeing my own kernel ehhe
[08:42] <jerware> hi guys.
[08:43] <Gamekiller> well not make sorry config
[08:43] <punkmexic> anyone know an official website where i can make a suggestion to.ubuntu developers?
[08:43] <lupine_85> www.launchpad.net
[08:43] <Gamekiller> i just loving synaptic
[08:43] <er4z0r> jared777: you might want to read more about the kismet setup
[08:43] <punkmexic> anyone knows an official website where i can make a suggestion to.ubuntu developers? or e-mail
[08:44] <eyequeue> Gamekiller, if ever you have that need, "kernel-package" package contains the make-kpkg app, to build a kernel deb
[08:44] <ravenous> punkmexic: www.launchpad.net
[08:44] <er4z0r> jared777: kismet is client-server architecture afaik
[08:44] <punkmexic> thank you ravenous
[08:44] <Gamekiller> cool i have to play with that later but i happy with the setup so i cool
[08:44] <punkmexic> anyone knows if ubuntu going to support winmodems drivers soon?
[08:45] <er4z0r> punkmexic: there was a thread on ubuntuforums.org
[08:45] <paulm> erUSUL didnt work, sorry. Would this be the correct type of line in the options colume? defaults,auto,utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[08:46] <punkmexic> whats named er4z0r?
[08:46] <punkmexic> winmodem?
[08:46] <er4z0r> punkmexic: dunno, try searching ;)
[08:46] <DexterF> nevermind, just created one... works...
[08:48] <paulm> Does anyone know if this would be the correct type of line in the options column for Fstab if i was adding another Hard Drive? defaults,auto,utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[08:48] <Gamekiller> what decoder package do i need to decode mpeg it know it stupid but i have some video i took with my digicam and it will not play
[08:48] <BiSk-8> hello, i need help with WINE. I installed a windows program but i cant figure out how to run it. Can anybody help me
[08:48] <lupine_85> BiSk-8: it'll be in ~/.wine/drive_c somewhere
[08:49] <lupine_85> once you've found it, "wine /path/to/executable" and hope
[08:49] <Caplain> is there a guide to installing smp support?
[08:49] <Caplain> !smp
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <instabin> er4z0r : yes did locate ntpdate
[08:49] <eyequeue> oh man!  i just told a pentium box to install kernel 686! :(
[08:49] <lupine_85> hehe :)
[08:49] <eyequeue> ^C in time fortunately
[08:49] <BiSk-8> lupine_85, where is the wine directory as default? thats what i cant find
[08:49] <ravenous> Caplain: you just need to install a kernel with smp support
[08:49] <lupine_85> ~/.wine
[08:49] <yohan> if i get 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation <--what is the PCI address? (im trying to edit my xorg.conf)
[08:49] <farchord> hey guys.... I have a problem with ubuntu.... yesterday, I changed my soundcard. I had an on-board AC'97 chip, but now, I have an Audigy. For some reason, I am unable to control the volume of anything anymore. I tried to go in the sound app in the menu, but for some reason, it wont set. Anyone knows why?
[08:49] <er4z0r> instabin: should be somewhere around /etc.../ifup. What do you want to accomplish anyway?
[08:49] <lupine_85> e.g. in your home directory, .wine
[08:49] <eyequeue> Caplain, the 686 kernel has smp support
[08:50] <instabin> er4z0r /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate
[08:50] <instabin> but when i use ntpdate restart it does not say anything
[08:50] <er4z0r> instabin: well, the script under that path is probpaly not a standard init script
[08:51] <er4z0r> instabin: what do you wanna do, man?
[08:51] <er4z0r> instabin: just restart it?
[08:51] <xipietotec> how do I download extra languages for ubuntu?
[08:51] <yohan> please!
[08:51] <yohan> if i get 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation <--what is the PCI address? (im trying to edit my xorg.conf)
[08:51] <jerware> i installed fglrx drivers for my ATI card.  dmesg says that is taints my kernel.  could that be the reason why my desktop locks up
[08:51] <instabin> yes
[08:51] <lupine_85> !languge-pack-es
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languge-pack-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <jerware> mouse freezes,  keyboard freezes, etc etc
[08:51] <instabin> er4z0r i change the ntpdate config file and now i wnat to restart it
[08:51] <eyequeue> instabin, what does   sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate start  do there?
[08:51] <farchord> xipietotec: : System, Parameters, Linguistic support
[08:52] <er4z0r> instabin: well,my simple approach would now be to restart networking, but that is far from elegant
[08:52] <eyequeue> instabin, ntpdate is a one-time thing, not a daemon like ntp-simple
[08:52] <kutkinnaku> where is libgnomeui-2.0 ?
[08:52] <Caplain> whats his question?
[08:52] <instabin> er4z0r give sme conmand not found
[08:52] <Caplain> i just went through the winmodem tango, i might be of some help
[08:53] <instabin> er4z0r cant restart networking using nx term
[08:53] <jerware> why does my computer lock up?
[08:53] <er4z0r> instabin: fair point ;)
[08:53] <dbkim> Can anyone please tell me how to configure samba on ubuntu? especially for sharing printer with Windows
[08:53] <jerware> must i switch to an other distro? perhalps gentoo?
[08:53] <jerware> FUCK
[08:53] <uNfOrGiViNg> lol
[08:53] <xipietotec> !language
[08:53] <vicscandl> Jeruvy: you are running windows.
[08:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:54] <eyequeue> xipietotec, he parted
[08:54] <Gamekiller> if ubuntu froze then gentoo may not work
[08:54] <lupine_85> jerware, a tainted kernel is nothing to worry about
[08:54] <vicscandl> sorry Jeruvy...
[08:54] <Gamekiller> i got ubuntu to work on a system gentoo would not work at all on
[08:54] <er4z0r> instabin: man ntpdate?
[08:54] <ravenous> if he cant figure out ubuntu good luck with gentoo lol
[08:54] <instabin> er4z0r : working on seting a linux term that that authenticates to and active direcotry domain
[08:54] <farchord> hey guys.... I have a problem with ubuntu.... yesterday, I changed my soundcard. I had an on-board AC'97 chip, but now, I have an Audigy. For some reason, I am unable to control the volume of anything anymore. I tried to go in the sound app in the menu, but for some reason, it wont set. Anyone knows why?
[08:54] <lupine_85> portage++
[08:54] <Zill> Does anyone know if there is a known kernel problem with dapper shutdown - my PC doesn't :-(
[08:54] <eyequeue> instabin, what does   sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate start   do there?
[08:54] <instabin> er4z0r think i got it just installed ntp-somthing
[08:55] <xipietotec> if I actually knew anything more about computers other than how to use them without destroying everything...I'd probably use gentoo.
[08:55] <er4z0r> instabin: as already mentioned ntpdate is a commad. you mean ntp-simple?
[08:55] <kutkinnaku> i need help with libgnomeui-2.0, i dont know where to find it ? can anyone help..
[08:55] <xipietotec> as it is, ubuntu is great. =)
[08:55] <flo> Zill do u have a assus board?
[08:55] <Caplain> eyequeue: all i have to do is use the package installer to get the i686 kernel...and thats it?
[08:55] <ravenous> Zill: not dapper-wide, no mine works fine
[08:55] <instabin> yea
[08:55] <instabin> now i have ntp-server in my init.d
[08:55] <eyequeue> Caplain, yes
[08:55] <Zill> Flo - no assus board - it's a Dell Optiplex GX1
[08:56] <ravenous> Caplain: well that and a restart ;)
[08:56] <haoole> Hi everybody
[08:56] <er4z0r> instabin: tadaaa *jingle*
[08:56] <haoole> Does anybody know *where* apt or dpkg stores a list of packages installed in my system?
[08:56] <instabin> er4z0r: yep
[08:56] <haoole> I cant run dpkg because the hd is corrupted and I'm using a live cd to get the data from it.
[08:56] <spd1snd> im installing ubuntu for the first time.... now when i try to do "apt-get install openssh-server" it is asking for the CD... how can i get it to grab everything it needs off of the network?
[08:56] <Zill> Thanks ravenous - mine worked fine until the broken Xorg update - hasn't worked right since!
[08:56] <haoole> any idea?
[08:56] <ravenous> Zill: yikes thats no good
[08:57] <Blinker> whats the maximum allowable partition size in ubuntu?
[08:57] <instabin> er4z0r: was to easy to do thats why i didnt see it
[08:57] <kutkinnaku> guys...what about libgnomeui-2.0, any clue ?
[08:57] <flo> Zill well y have a asus and there is three months now that i shut down my pc with the power button
[08:57] <whatspy> hello... I've got the most recent LiveCD for ubuntu; is it possible to install it without GNOME nor any kind of graphical interface? (would be useful on good ol' pentium 90...)
[08:57] <er4z0r> instabin: anyway, one down, more 2 go ;)
[08:57] <instabin> er4z0r right click on the time on gnome desktop, click adjust date and time, put check in periodically sync clock with internet servers
[08:58] <ravenous> Whatsisname: nope, need a different iso/image
[08:58] <ravenous> er
[08:58] <er4z0r> instabin: well, yes
[08:58] <instabin> it automaticaly installs ntp-simple
[08:58] <ravenous> whatspy: need the alternate install iso
[08:58] <paulm> how can i change the permissions on my second Hard Drive? And Ownership?
[08:58] <er4z0r> instabin: didn't you say ubuntu-server?
[08:58] <instabin> yes
[08:58] <er4z0r> instabin: didn't konw it comes with an xserver at all
[08:58] <eyequeue> whatspy, the server install cd is for that, or the alternate cd
[08:58] <instabin> er4z0r it dosent
[08:58] <er4z0r> instabin: but should have guessed after you said nx
[08:58] <TokenBad> I had a crash where system locked up...so I rebooted and now my slave drive is read only...was told to umount it and run fsck so did that...but after the run it says disk left unchanged even though I told it to fix the errors it found..and it is still read only....anyone help?  I have asked on the forum and no answer there...please anyone?
[08:59] <Caplain> ravenous: you insult my lack of intelligence....
[08:59] <instabin> er4z0r did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <ravenous> Caplain: didnt mean to just making sure, cant be too careful in here heh
[08:59] <cbx33> Hi guys do you think a 3800 Dual Core, with an Asus A8N-SLI and 1Gb Corsair RAM would run virtual machines nicely on ubuntu?
[08:59] <Zill> Back again - closed XChat in error!
[08:59] <Subhuman> cbx33, yes easily.
[08:59] <iam8up|vis> can anyone tell me why after i 'sudo apt-get upgrade' i get this message: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:59] <whatspy> eyequeue: so many thanks, I should have thought about it myself but well! I didn't
[09:00] <Subhuman> iam8up|vis, it means your machine is up to date.
[09:00] <iam8up|vis> i'm sure it has something to do with the sources.list in /etc/apt - any ideas?
[09:00] <ravenous> iam8up|vis: your completely updated thats why
[09:00] <iam8up|vis> Subhuman:  that can't be, i just installed 6.06 - i can't install anything
[09:00] <essdee> failed to initialize NVIDIA kernel module
[09:00] <essdee> what does this mean?
[09:00] <er4z0r> instabin: huh?!
[09:00] <eyequeue> whatspy, sure thing
[09:00] <alex_> i am having a problem using nautilus and ssh to view files on a remote computer, also when i use sshfs to mout the file system it askes for password and then tells me that remote host disconnected,  is there some setting that i need to change?
[09:00] <kutkinnaku> still no clue about libgnomeui-2.0 ?
[09:00] <whatspy> hehe
[09:01] <dan271828> spd1snd: u need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file (comment the CD-distro) as a root (sudo bash to get root terminal), or use synaptic to add or remove ....
[09:01] <er4z0r> instabin: comes with a load of stuff you won't ever need on you server
[09:01] <paulm> iam8up|vis have you opened everything in the software properties?
[09:01] <rick-uk> Hi.  Wonder if anyone can help me with a minor problem - the volume control does nothing - I can change it on the menu bar control, but the speakers still run full volume
[09:01] <Subhuman> iam8up|vis, try a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" then
[09:01] <Subhuman> your repos are prob out of date.
[09:01] <Subhuman> jus need to update them
[09:01] <instabin> er4z0r : yea i know want to get rid of the games and stuff but it says there needed
[09:01] <Caplain> ravenous: good point, im so used to the way gentoo works
[09:01] <paulm> what is the command to change the permissions on my second Hard Drive? And Ownership?
[09:02] <er4z0r> instabin: the only thing one needs xserver on a server is wanda the fish
[09:02] <er4z0r> instabin: ;)
[09:02] <iam8up|vis> ok..just did an update - theres no way i can still be up to the latest updates
[09:02] <essdee> currently im having a problem with the NVIDIA driver recognizing my video card
[09:02] <iam8up|vis> i know there have been many updates since 6.06
[09:02] <essdee> what to do what to do
[09:02] <iam8up|vis> and i still can't find fglrx in the apt's cache
[09:03] <iam8up|vis> fglrx being an ati driver
[09:03] <instabin> er4z0r : its going to be a terminal server so all i need is gnome.. and open office or star office and crossover office
[09:03] <ravenous> iam8up|vis: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[09:03] <iam8up|vis> let me look
[09:03] <er4z0r> instabin: aah ok
[09:03] <er4z0r> instabin: crossover office on ubuntu?
[09:03] <SlackRat> wait, so if i just intstalled dapper, i should dist-upgrade? lots of updates?
[09:03] <er4z0r> is that possible?
[09:03] <instabin> er4zor  yes
[09:04] <instabin> er4z0r have another sugustion?
[09:04] <deibit> on dapper: somebody got problems with monodevelop (an unexpected crash)???
[09:04] <paulm> iam8up|vis might also be useful to add some of the unoffical back ports to your sources.list file.
[09:04] <ravenous> SlackRat: not dist-upgrade no, but sudo-apt-get upgrade, or 'mark all upgrades' in synaptic
[09:04] <er4z0r> instabin: no, just not used to Xover Office
[09:04] <SlackRat> oh, ok, thats been done
[09:04] <SlackRat> thanks
[09:04] <instabin> er4z0r what do you use?
[09:04] <paulm> what is the command to change the permissions on my second Hard Drive? And Ownership?
[09:04] <er4z0r> instabin: I always put that in the novellish/SuSE corner somehow
[09:05] <er4z0r> instabin: for normal use (student) I use OpenOffice
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> paulm: mount -t auto -o umask=000,uid=youruserid /dev/something /second/drive
[09:05] <instabin> er4z0r : i dont belive some of our vbs office documents work in oo
[09:05] <er4z0r> instabin: jup, that might indeed be a problem
[09:06] <inkrikked> hello
[09:06] <paulm> fyrestrtr i remember there being a program that you could change all the permissions of disks with a GUI and it was easy enough to use. Do you know it?
[09:06] <er4z0r> *growl*
[09:06] <instabin> er4z0r : for now im trying to figure out how to get office 2003 to install in to xover but keeps asking me for cd 1 durring the install
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> paulm: not really
[09:06] <er4z0r> hmm time to eat
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> instabin: check appdb.winehq.org to see how well its supported.
[09:07] <er4z0r> instabin: sorry absolutely no xperience with xover
[09:07] <iam8up|vis> ok, thanks a bunch guys!
[09:07] <iam8up|vis> appreciate the help
[09:07] <instabin> er4z0r yea i keep working on it maybe after im done with the termserver ill do it again and make a big tutorial
[09:07] <inkrikked> i would like to upgrade my box, from hoary to dapper drke
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade
[09:07] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:08] <inkrikked> is there a way
[09:08] <eyequeue> inkrikked, not supported
[09:08] <er4z0r> instabin: cool, don't forget to post on ubuntuforums
[09:08] <Vegeta^> On a web pae it says that additional plugins are needed, and when I choose "Install missing plugins" it gives me that "following plugins are available: Java Runtime Enviroment", but I already have Sun Java 5.0 installed.. So what is needed, or how can I find out what is needed?
[09:08] <eyequeue> inkrikked, go to breezy first, then to dapper
[09:08] <paulm> fyrestrtr and all those personal details in your command are found in the disk manager or Fstab?
[09:08] <xipietotec> what's EasyUbuntu? How is it different (or any easier) than normal ubuntu? anyone have any familiarity with it?
[09:08] <instabin> er4z0r soon as i remember my password
[09:08] <eyequeue> !upgrade > inkrikked
[09:08] <lupine_85> inkrikked, upgrade to breezy fiest
[09:08] <lupine_85> first*
[09:08] <ravenous> inkrikked: you've gotto dist-upgrade to breezy then dapper, its probably going to be troublesom
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> paulm: what personal details?
[09:08] <instabin> er4z0r : or the email that i signed up with :|
[09:08] <ravenous> xipietotec: its a script that automates some of the install and likes to break things join #easyubuntu for support
[09:08] <Abst> Anyone know how to make the key which is an invented > not launch rhythmbox?
[09:08] <SlackRat> xipietotec: its to auto install java, flash, codecs etc
[09:09] <eyequeue> inkrikked, with all that downloading, consider a fresh install instead, i would say
[09:09] <SlackRat> pretty useful and smooth
[09:09] <er4z0r> instabin: have ye heard of beagle?
[09:09] <seanh> Hey all - I have Ubuntu setup in a cafe, and want to automatically remove files that people leave lying on the desktop, while preserving the files and shortcuts I want to keep. Was thinking of an rsync command on GNOME startup. Any adivce?
[09:09] <xipietotec> Ah....so it would have saved me alot of time, lol.
[09:09] <TokenBad> so no one on the forums or here can help with the drive being readonly?
[09:09] <ravenous> xipietotec: or it would have totalled your install
[09:09] <essdee> wowie i fixed it
[09:09] <ravenous> xipietotec: its not supported by ubuntu
[09:09] <xipietotec> Oh, good thing I didn't use it then. =)
[09:09] <instabin> er4z0r i have it installed
[09:09] <xipietotec> Besides, I learned alot
[09:10] <SlackRat> man chmod TokenBad
[09:10] <paulm> fyrestrtr the userid etc
[09:10] <seanh> TokenBad - what kind of drive?
[09:10] <er4z0r> instabin: useful thing
[09:10] <TokenBad> SlackRat, the drive was working...this only happened after system locked up...and I rebooted
[09:10] <ravenous> xipietotec: what you learned will be  invaluable down the road with other things, you did it the right way
[09:10] <instabin> er4z0r: Yes seems to be so far
[09:10] <SlackRat> check the perms, but you should be familiar with chmod to change permissions in nix anyways
[09:11] <TokenBad> I have umounted the drive....ran fsck...I have remounted with rw...and still...nothing..
[09:11] <instabin> er4z0r try nx server yet?
[09:11] <paulm> fyrestrtr plus i have gid not uid in my fstab
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> paulm: userid you can find out by type grep username /etc/passwd -- the first number you see is your userid. By default, its 1000 for the first user account.
[09:11] <yohan> if i get 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation <--what is the PCI address? (im trying to edit my xorg.conf)
[09:11] <er4z0r> instabin: yep, slow at connection setup, but when session runs its nearly like in fornt of the box
[09:12] <instabin> er4z0r: Its alot faster than RDP (MS Term Serv)
[09:12] <er4z0r> gotta go
[09:12] <er4z0r> instabin: bye
[09:12] <Diguinho> hi. Does anyone know how I get /usr/local/include on compiler's path so it can find my header files there?
[09:12] <SlackRat> tho a drive suddenly not writable after a reboot doesnt sound like a permissions issue...
[09:12] <instabin> er4z0r: im using freeNX not sure if it supports the rdp and vnc connections like no macine does
[09:12] <instabin> er4z0r later
[09:13] <dan271828> got some problems to burn that ubuntu distro. The command sudo cdrecord -v ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso started, all is ok, after some seconds i got an error. Decided to report it. Any1 experienced the same? (Md5sum checked!)
[09:14] <TokenBad> SlackRat, yeah I have done all that...I can still read info from it...but I can't move files or edit them or anything like that
[09:14] <inkrikked> don't work fine
[09:14] <inkrikked> how to view if my bo was compromised
[09:14] <wikijeff> What level of success have people had in running Mathematica through wine?? It keeps crashing on me.
[09:15] <TokenBad> SlackRat, I mean I am looking at right now as only way to fix it is to reinstall ubuntu
[09:15] <SlackRat> what do the perms for the hard drive currently say?
[09:15] <inkrikked> i suspect that my box is compromised
[09:15] <kouwe> how can i see where java is installed to set JAVA_HOME ?
[09:15] <SlackRat> locate java
[09:16] <TokenBad> SlackRat, I have this in my fstab: /dev/hdd1    /media/windows vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0
[09:16] <kouwe> SlackRat: thnx :)
[09:16] <SlackRat> np
[09:17] <inkrikked> is there a way for understand if my box is hacked
[09:17] <TokenBad> SlackRat, this is the perms on slave drive:  drwxr-xr-x 84 root root 65536 1969-12-31 16:00 windows
[09:17] <SlackRat> oh, a windows partition.....im on the wrong box to check that kinda dual config here.....but i dont see any rw or ro at all, on the fstab entry......
[09:17] <Subhuman> inkrikked, well most things are logged in /var/log/, so look in auth.log etc. for any unusal connections
[09:17] <el_taco> i'm using latest kubuntu. when I try to open a remote desktop connection using a UNC address it can't find the host. is there something I need to do with samba to allow that?
[09:17] <inkrikked> ok
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: is it a ntfs partition?
[09:18] <SlackRat> had a similar problem a while back and decided to ignore it......going into my windoze partition while on linux makes me feel dirty :P
[09:18] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, no..its vfat
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> TokenBad: chmod user:group windows BEFORE you mount the drive.
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> ermm, that should be chown not chmod
[09:19] <Thkaal> Hello everyone.  After many years of fear and trepidation, I am migrating to linux.  However, the live cd of ubuntu (chosen because some friends recommended it), will not install saying there is an mp-bios bug
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> Thkaal: are you on a laptop?
[09:20] <Thkaal> fyrestrtr: Desktop
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Thkaal: suggest you try the alternate install cd :)
[09:20] <FantasticFoo> OK
[09:20] <FantasticFoo> so
[09:20] <vicscandl> Thkaal: or use the 'minimal graphic' option at startup
[09:21] <vicscandl> Thkaal: that handled it for me with ubuntu64
[09:21] <Thkaal> Minimal graphic?  Okay.  It says there was a time error on the apci as well
[09:21] <FantasticFoo> at my school, they have these wireless internet signals all over the place
[09:21] <ravenous> booting with acpi=off may help then too
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> Thkaal: disable apci in your bios.
[09:21] <Diguinho> Does anyone know how I get /usr/local/include on compiler's path so it can find my header files there?
[09:21] <vicscandl> Thkaal: see ravenous/fyrestrtr
[09:21] <infidel> can someone help me setup my network printer, i had it setup before but now it can't be found. i can ping it
[09:22] <FantasticFoo> in windows xp, they pop up, i enter in a network key, and boom - i'm connected. so how do i do this in ubuntu? i want to be able to use to this wireless connection in linux.
[09:22] <FantasticFoo> ubuntu can't seem to recognize this signal
[09:22] <Thkaal> Thanks.  will be back shortly.....i hope
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> FantasticFoo: first, is your wireless card detected?
[09:22] <Subhuman> FantasticFoo, firstly, your wifi card will prob need ot be setup, secondly, youll need an app called "network-manager"
[09:22] <FantasticFoo> fyrestrtr: i dunno
[09:22] <FantasticFoo> fyrestrtr: how do i tell?
[09:23] <Bonaldo2000> Can anyone tell me what to do about getting this message when installing plib-1.8.4:
[09:23] <Bonaldo2000> plib1.8.4-dev:
[09:23] <Bonaldo2000>  Depends: libglut3-dev
[09:23] <Bonaldo2000>  Depends: xlibmesa-gl-dev  but it is not installable or
[09:23] <Bonaldo2000> 	libgl-dev
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> system > administration > networking -- see if its there.
[09:23] <FantasticFoo> fyrestrtr, sure is
[09:24] <BiSk-8> hello, i need help with WINE. I installed a windows program but i cant figure out where its located, can anybody help?
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> FantasticFoo: then click on it, hit properties :)
[09:25] <drbashir> !xubuntu
[09:25] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:25] <dougsko> BiSk-8: theres a wine folder somewhere, possibly in your home folder, thats where it went
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> BiSk-8: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[09:25] <BiSk-8> let me check
[09:25] <BiSk-8> ok found
[09:25] <BiSk-8> thx
[09:25] <BiSk-8> no1 told me that it was in my home folder
[09:25] <FantasticFoo> brb
[09:26] <essdee> i am having problems if i load X using the "nvidia" driver parameter
[09:26] <XandriX> has anyone here ever tryed to compile and install the dri.freedesktop.irg i915 dri drivers ?
[09:26] <dougsko> essdee: are you loading it as "nvidia" or "nv"?
[09:26] <essdee> however i have installed the nvidia binary driver so should it not work?
[09:26] <erUSUL> !nvidia
[09:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:26] <essdee> "nvidia" because i want to inable TwinView
[09:26] <starscalling> hey
[09:27] <essdee> and can only do that through using the NVIDIA binary driver
[09:27] <starscalling> how does one change the default language on server dapper
[09:27] <dougsko> essdee: switch it to nv, that uses the driver too
[09:27] <essdee> hmm i must have something else messed up, TwinView still wont work
[09:27] <essdee> argh
[09:27] <Xal2> Hi
[09:27] <babydelfinita> hello
[09:27] <dougsko> essdee: do you see the splash screen when x starts?
[09:27] <starscalling> essdee,
[09:28] <essdee> not the nvidia one, no
[09:28] <dougsko> essdee: the nvidia splash screen i mean
[09:28] <Xal2> How do I get 5.1 surround sound with Kubuntu?
[09:28] <starscalling> inuyasha-lives.com/linux/xorg.conf
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> essdee: first find out if nvidia is work. Hit glxinfo
[09:28] <starscalling> thats an example of a working twinview config
[09:28] <essdee> not finding anything :/
[09:28] <starscalling> http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc1/en/download.htm
[09:28] <starscalling> and thats vista rc1
[09:28] <starscalling> XD
[09:28] <javiolo> what app should I run when I start for example fluxbox to have my volume keyboard control working ??
[09:28] <starscalling> lol
[09:29] <starscalling> essdee, just look at the config i got up there
[09:29] <starscalling> and use the section by the card
[09:29] <starscalling> and the section at th ebottom
[09:29] <drbashir> Hmm, the screen is all fuzzy (text is hardly readable) and changing the resoltion doesn't help... anyone have a solution?
[09:29] <essdee> starscalling, will do, thanks
[09:29] <starscalling> kk
[09:29] <XandriX> beacuz i tryed and so far no luck
[09:30] <kditty> how do i chmod a drive to gain write access?
[09:30] <dougsko> starscalling: you dont have a working example to make an s-video out port work, do ya? haha
[09:30] <starscalling> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[09:30] <starscalling> also thats a great one
[09:30] <javiolo> how can I set irssi to log on channels ?
[09:30] <essdee> k
[09:30] <starscalling> s-video should be included in there
[09:30] <dougsko> neat-o
[09:30] <Bonaldo2000> What can one do about "unresolved dependencies" errpr=
[09:30] <Bonaldo2000> error?
[09:31] <cdubya> kditty, are you wanting to just have certain folders with write access or the whole drive?
[09:31] <starscalling> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/NVidia/Twin_View
[09:31] <essdee> now i was told to download the binary driver, not to install package nvidia-glx
[09:31] <kditty> cdubya, the whole drive, its installed and sys/administration/disks shows the drive, but i cant write to it, and its not mounted
[09:31] <starscalling>         Option          "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
[09:31] <starscalling>         Option          "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
[09:31] <essdee> rather, to install the binary
[09:31] <starscalling> thats the important part for svidio dougsko
[09:31] <starscalling> and define that resolution
[09:32] <CromagDK> !ntfs
[09:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:32] <starscalling>         Option          "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, TV"
[09:32] <starscalling> and that
[09:32] <coopster> bah, how would one go about fixing the sudoers file, once one has been dumb enough to mess it up to where sudo no longer works?
[09:32] <starscalling> crt for main mon and tv for other
[09:32] <starscalling> or tft  == lcd
[09:32] <starscalling> ^^;;
[09:32] <chiefinnovator> Hey guys, FYI, I fixed my problem from an hour ago regarding not being able to connect to the repositories by upgrading my router's firmware (netgear).  Full writeup here: http://www.answermysearches.com/index.php/fixing-issue-where-ubuntu-cant-find-repositories/171/
[09:32] <Blinker> what partition type would be best to use for a cross-platform lan share?
[09:32] <dougsko> so then what is the difference between calling "nv" and "nvidia" in the driver section of xorg.conf?
[09:32] <cdubya> kditty, what filesystem is it?
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: use scp or samba, and stick with the filesystem that works best on the host.
[09:33] <TurtleBoots> anyone used peercast before?
[09:33] <erUSUL> dougsko: different drivers nv is the free one nvidia is the binary blob from nvidia.com
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> dougsko: one is the binary driver from nvidia, the other, isn't :)
[09:34] <Blinker> fyrestrtr: is that going to need any kind of login for access?
[09:34] <chiefinnovator> Does Automatix install the right Nvidia driver?
[09:34] <dougsko> sweeeet
[09:34] <chiefinnovator> Is there there only one Nvidia driver for all cards?
[09:34] <erUSUL> !automatix
[09:34] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:34] <huia> how can i use chroot to access internet via system being "chrooted"?
[09:34] <chiefinnovator> Dislike of Automatix aside ....
[09:34] <chiefinnovator> oh, nevermind
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: depends on how you set it up, you can have it both ways.
[09:34] <kditty> under disks it says ext3, but if i fdisk, it says ntfs cdubya
[09:34] <erUSUL> chiefinnovator: there a legacy driver for older cards (this aply only for the nvidia one)
[09:34] <Blinker> nice. thx fyrestrtr
[09:35] <iGuanA> hi all
[09:35] <cdubya> !ntfs > kditty
[09:35] <kditty> !ntfs
[09:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:35] <eyequeue> okay, this may be simple, but i can't find docs on it.  HOWTO change from lilo to grub, safely?
[09:35] <niruana> hi all, i cant choose quit anymore from my quit... menu
[09:35] <chiefinnovator> erUSUL, How do I know what Nvidia driver I have installed?  Is there a command?
[09:35] <niruana> the only option is Hibrate, logout, switch user
[09:36] <niruana> but no quit, restart option anymore :S
[09:36] <TurtleBoots> hi all
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> chiefinnovator: glxinfo | Open
[09:36] <alex_> !update
[09:36] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:36] <kditty> cdubya, i formated the drive to be ext3 so that i can write to it. i dont have windows anymore
[09:36] <cdubya> kditty, if it's ntfs, you won't be able to write to it....but you can mount and read......
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> chiefinnovator: ermm, glxinfo | grep Open
[09:36] <c|int> heya guys
[09:36] <TurtleBoots> anyone here heard of peercast? Or used it for that matter??
[09:36] <cdubya> kditty, ah
[09:36] <cdubya> kditty, so you just want to mount that?
[09:36] <chiefinnovator> thanks, fyrestrtr
[09:36] <TokenBad> fyrestrtr, if I want that drive readable and writable to everyone...what should I chown it to be?
[09:37] <kditty> cdub, yes... and be able to write to the drive
[09:37] <farchord> Anyone here was able to listen to TV with an ATi TV Wonder Elite?
[09:37] <cdubya> !mount
[09:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:37] <eyequeue> TokenBad, write for all is dangerous
[09:37] <chiefinnovator> I have core2duo, how do I check if Ubuntu is using both cores?
[09:37] <c|int> I was just wondering.. I forgot, I got the books on ubuntu, and going be reading alot, and changing the system how I want, but, had question.. when you say: want to take all files in a folder, and move them to a dir, on ubuntu, because I' will be taking, my firmware files.. and putting them to /lib/firmware/   it was someting with  cp bcm48** and takes em all?
[09:37] <cdubya> err
[09:37] <rummik> i just installed the latest Nvidia drivers from their site, and it's complaining about the kernel module not matching the driver in X...
[09:38] <eyequeue> !lilo->grub
[09:38] <rambo3> use cfdisk
[09:38] <erUSUL> chiefinnovator: the nv driver is instaled by default afaik... the nvidia has its own package
[09:38] <eyequeue> !lilo>grub
[09:38] <erUSUL> !nvidia > chiefinnovator
[09:38] <eyequeue> !lilotogrub
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lilotogrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <c|int> I know I can get into root, if I go into recovery, and do things, but I had problems with.. dbus. etc. and powermangement and it locke dup on me, can I createa  root easily, like debian, because i dont' want to be limited to what I can do.. if I have to spend alot o time, hacking the system, I got debian ready and waiting to go.. but anyone maybe can help?
[09:38] <kditty> cdubya, for some reason its working now, after i hit enable under 'disks'
[09:38] <eyequeue> c|int, no, ubuntu uses sudo
[09:38] <TokenBad> isn't rm -r for removing a dir?
[09:39] <eyequeue> !sudo > c|int
[09:39] <cdubya> kditty, kewl.
[09:39] <kditty> thanks for the help man
[09:39] <niruana> Can someone tell me why i cant choose quit, restart computer in the Quit... menu. The only option is Hibrate, logout, switch user and lock screen
[09:39] <cdubya> kditty, at least it works.
[09:39] <cdubya> np
[09:39] <eyequeue> TokenBad, it is for recursion
[09:39] <c|int> yeah, I"m well aware of that, lol not new to it.. and done alot of things with ubuntu, I'm just wondering, can I creat a root login. like. .entering root, and then password. etc
[09:39] <farchord> Damn why isn't Tvtime in Synaptic anymore!?
[09:39] <c|int> yes I know. but when I did recovery.. it gave me problems and I had ot power it off. with power button.. ;)
[09:39] <farchord> did they discontinue it?
[09:39] <eyequeue> c|int,bad bad bad practice, what is  wrong with sudo -i ?
[09:39] <chiefinnovator> How do I know if Ubuntu is using both cores of my core2duo?
[09:39] <c|int> yes I know.. sudo apt-get install, enter pass etc..
[09:40] <c|int> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. yada yada
[09:40] <TokenBad> what does this mean?  rm: cannot lstat `nwn/temp/16:01:14. 20': Input/output error
[09:40] <c|int> sudo ./vmware.pl
[09:40] <c|int> etc
[09:40] <c|int> :P
[09:40] <seanh> I'm getting an error updating firefox -- cannot stat ./usr/lib/firefox/components/jar.xpt What should I do? Firefox won't launch. I'm trying removing and reinstalling it.
[09:40] <eyequeue> c|int, what is wrong with sudo -i ?
[09:40] <SlackRat> TokenBad: i have an ugly suspicion you may have hardware trouble
[09:41] <eyequeue> c|int, did you read the url you were sent?
[09:41] <SlackRat> when it brings up input output errors and happened after reboot
[09:41] <c|int> heck with it.. I"m just going.. program my own linux system off of debian
[09:41] <meowmeow> does sharpmusique exist anymore?
[09:41] <jbroome> ahahahah, go right ahead c|int
[09:41] <chiefinnovator> SO no one knows how to see how many cores one HAs?
[09:41] <c|int> its worth the time and the patience, to get the powe ryou and, and without spending alot of time. stripping stuff out all day
[09:41] <SlackRat> c|int:  try kanotix yet?
[09:41] <eyequeue> c|int, that's simpler than reading a url or typing sudo -i, sure
[09:41] <jbroome> chiefinnovator: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:42] <shut-> is the command to change root pass sudo passwd root?
[09:42] <chiefinnovator> thanks jbroome !
[09:42] <jbroome> if you're running an SMP kernel, it will show more than one cpu/core
[09:42] <niruana> Can someone tell me why i cant choose quit, restart computer in the Quit... menu. The only option is Hibrate, logout, switch user and lock screen
[09:42] <eyequeue> c|int, you enjoy that now, y'hear?
[09:42] <c|int> lmao I don't need to try ditsro's and distro's I'm not new to linux just had some questions and things on ubuntu, I got all there books lmao.. ubuntu hacks, ubuntu apress, etc
[09:42] <c|int> I have messe dwith alot of linux systems even FreeBSD, PC-BSD , DesktopBSd, ec.. freeSbie.. since 2004
[09:42] <jbroome> bsd != linux
[09:42] <essdee> ugh i wonder why this nvidia binary will not work
[09:42] <c|int> I"m just asking , isn't it possible to create default root login, as well
[09:43] <jbroome> yes
[09:43] <eyequeue> meanwhile, lilo->grub howto anyone?
[09:43] <c|int> bsd is unix.. clone :)
[09:43] <c|int> oki, and how i go about doing that, jb, ty
[09:43] <shut-> so  am i rigt
[09:43] <chiefinnovator> jbroome, I don't see it
[09:43] <shut-> !root
[09:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:43] <shut-> lol
[09:43] <eyequeue> c|int,  fscking READ the url the bot sent you!
[09:43] <c|int> but I"m saying
[09:43] <chiefinnovator> jbroome, I installed the normal Dapper, should I have used something else to get the SMP?
[09:43] <c|int> you don't just have to have sudo. do you, and you can enter, root, at login, and pass if you wanted too, correct
[09:43] <jbroome> chiefinnovator: chiefinnovator uname -r  let me know what it says
[09:44] <c|int> I Know what sudo does. etc..
[09:44] <eyequeue> c|int, you're taking bandwidth, but not reading the answer
[09:44] <c|int> lmao. I"m not effeting the cache at all. lmao @ u
[09:44] <c|int> ubuntu has a pretty well fine, irc server. lmao @ u
[09:44] <farchord> Dude is it normal that the repositry is missing many packages!?
[09:44] <lupine_85> c|int: possible but "not the ubuntu way".
[09:44] <farchord> I can't find xawtv, tvtime, etc
[09:44] <chiefinnovator> jbroome, 2.6.15-26-386
[09:44] <c|int> lmao, open source is open source.. you can modify it how you see fit, and best for users needs
[09:45] <dougsko> c|int: just make a root user...
[09:45] <jbroome> !info xawtv
[09:45] <lupine_85> indeed :)
[09:45] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.94-1.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 712 kB
[09:45] <inkrikked> ls -F
[09:45] <c|int> good deal
[09:45] <lupine_85> so sudo passwd if you want a root account
[09:45] <jbroome> farchord: enable universe/multiverse
[09:45] <eugman> Is printing possible from the command line? Like pdfs and such?
[09:45] <c|int> oh yea. thats right
[09:45] <jbroome> chiefinnovator: you'll need to install a SMP kernel from the repos
[09:45] <farchord> jbroome: how do I do tht?
[09:45] <lupine_85> d'oh ;)
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow>  It is not advised that you make a root user.
[09:45] <c|int> I forgot that. I did that once. but forgot.. how i Did it.. ty
[09:45] <jbroome> !repos
[09:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:45] <c|int> I know its not advised
[09:45] <farchord> oic
[09:45] <c|int> but I"m advising it..
[09:45] <chiefinnovator> jbroome, why didn't I get an SMP?  I'm confused?
[09:45] <dougsko> Jack_Sparrow: why is that anyway?
[09:45] <eyequeue> c|int, READ the page!
[09:46] <c|int> I got an IDS< and other things in network security, I'm not worried about a hacker
[09:46] <c|int> ;)
[09:46] <eyequeue> c|int, it will shut you up, answer what you want
[09:46] <inkrikked> ahahah
[09:46] <c|int> getting an SGi Altix too, when I can :)
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> There is a learning curve and with many new WIndows people joining us and people from other distros it is for their own safety , even if a minor inconvienience
[09:47] <LinuxCart> Hola a todos
[09:47] <c|int> lmao. it will shut me, up. sounds like your not being the ubuntu way, and being how like mark was talking in that video.. and class.. when users write debian programmers, and devs etc.. and they write back.. fu** off.. eh
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[09:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:47] <dougsko> Jack_Sparrow: oh ok, because i was pretty sure it was more secure to have a root user, and maybe sudo out a couple commands to those who need them
[09:47] <SlackRat> whats the safety factor when you can sudo su
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> c|int: just because you have a lock, doesn't mean you don't have to worry about robbers.
[09:47] <drbashir> !screensaver'
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, he won't answer what is wrong with sudo -i, he wont read the url, he won't shut up, i think he's only trolling
[09:47] <drbashir> !screensaver
[09:47] <shut-> how do i get xchat
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <c|int> well, I"m not.. :-)
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa... agreed
[09:48] <c|int> I got phlak for that,
[09:48] <jbroome> chiefinnovator: when you install ubuntu doesn't detect what cpu you have.  everyone gets the same kernel
[09:48] <lupine_85> sudo -i is longer than su ;)
[09:48] <LinuxCart> ups, wrong channel
[09:48] <LinuxCart> sorry
[09:48] <drbashir> hmmpf, no good screensavers in Ubuntu
[09:48] <c|int> they got to worry about me too.. flashing there bios remotely.. with firmware and them gettin a password, at boot.. hee :-)
[09:48] <ompaul> drbashir, make your own
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> chiefinnovator: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[09:48] <niruana> Can someone tell me why i cant choose quit, restart computer in the Quit... menu. The only option is Hibrate, logout, switch user and lock screen
[09:48] <chiefinnovator> fyrestrtr, What's 686 mean?
[09:48] <seanh>  Is it me or have the packages totem and totem-gstreamer gone to version 1.4.3 while totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and totem-xine are 1.4.1, meaning they can no longer be used?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> chiefinnovator: for one, it means SMP :)
[09:49] <jbroome> fyrestrtr: might want to include the -smp for that
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> niruana: don't run xgl :)
[09:49] <drbashir> ompaul, wouldn't have a clue how. And I want one from the net, sure there are better ones out there?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> jbroome: not necessary.
[09:49] <sharperguy> fyrestrtr, aiglx all the way
[09:49] <seanh> Shall I just use mozilla-mplayer instead?
[09:49] <jbroome> so this package is completly useless:  linux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[09:49] <c|int> thanks guys, have a nice day
[09:49] <diskostu> hi there, would this be the wrong place to ask a question about amarok? the people in #amarok are sleeping...
[09:50] <c|int> I'll let you know how debian testing. goes, and when it crosses over in etch :-) stable
[09:50] <harisund> jbroome: can I get a 686 kernel that is *not* SMP enabled?
[09:50] <Alejandro1985> hello, I would like to as a question about the working of ubuntu on a dell inspiron 630m
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> jbroome: linux-686 = linux-686-smp -- for those that feel all warm and fuzzy inside when they see the -smp
[09:50] <c|int> I'll just compile my own packages, from source. etc
[09:50] <exs> What's the best megadrive emualtor for ubuntu?
[09:50] <c|int> see ya .. drbashir :D
[09:50] <harisund> fyrestrtr: do you know? (how I can get a 686 kernel without the smpp)
[09:50] <shut-> fyrestertr: how do i get xchat?
[09:50] <jbroome> harisund: yes
[09:50] <harisund> jbroome: how?
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> harisund: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[09:50] <ompaul> drbashir, check glslideshow
[09:50] <Alejandro1985> does anyone know how to make the microphone work on dell's 630m?
[09:51] <harisund> fyrestrtr: that comes with smp enabled by default :(
[09:51] <niruana> frenetik: but it worked before but now it wouldnt work anymore :(
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> harisund: its not going to hurt anything.
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> niruana: before what?
[09:51] <drbashir> ompaul, neither do I have nice pictures on this machine ;)
[09:52] <farchord> Hmmm anyone knows of a good driver for ATi TV wonder elite (Theater 550 pro chip)?
[09:52] <chiefinnovator> fyrestrtr, Are you sure 686 is for core2duo?
[09:52] <drbashir> c|int talked to me earlier?
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !xchat > shut-
[09:52] <exs> Is it easy to build packages from source?
[09:52] <niruana> i have no idea fyrestrtr, it always worked but since i rebooted some time ago it wont show me the quit, restart button anymore
[09:52] <SlackRat> exs: yes
[09:52] <shut-> that didnt tell me
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: What program were you looking for?
[09:52] <LinuxCart> Hello
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> chiefinnovator: yes.
[09:52] <eyequeue> exs, apt-get -b source foo
[09:52] <LinuxCart> anyone using d-link dwl g650 wireless card
[09:53] <LinuxCart> driver is madwifi
[09:53] <exs> SlackRat:  why don'nt anyone build package maker for source
[09:53] <LinuxCart> ?
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !xchat > jack_sparrow
[09:53] <niruana> fyrestrtr: and other reboots didnt fix it to
[09:53] <ompaul> !wireless > LinuxCart
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: It tells you it is in universe repo.. did you need more?
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> niruana: check launchpad.net
[09:53] <fjellrev1> is it me or is it wierd that I can't download build essentials
[09:53] <fjellrev1> ?
[09:54] <shut-> i found the command and it said E: Couldn't find package xchat
[09:54] <ompaul> !checkinstall > cxs
[09:54] <ompaul> !checkinstall > exs
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> fjellrev1: check which repos you have enabled
[09:54] <ba5e> what a song
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> shut-: enable universe
[09:54] <shut-> i dont remember how to
[09:54] <visik7> anyone have try backporting mol to dapper ?
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: Have you tried synaptic
[09:54] <salim> hi, I want to install openoffice on my Xubuntu, but there are two packages: openoffice-org and openoffice-org2 - which one should I install?
[09:55] <shut-> no
[09:55] <lupine_85> salim: -org2
[09:55] <fjellrev1> Jack_Sparrow:  I have all the standard on and a couple of others which I added my self
[09:55] <matteJ> Which version is the livecd install from gnome, alternate or desktop?
[09:56] <niruana> ok fyrestrtr i'l look on the website
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> fjellrev1: Are you getting an error.. if so what error
[09:56] <bobovski> hi all...how do I open up a remote xwindows session. Or better, say there is a graphical application I want to run on a remote machine...how do I get it to display on the machine I'm on? Sorry if this sounds confusing
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: system/admin/synaptic
[09:57] <coopster> how would i put the system into hibernate from the command line?  i don't know the command that the hibernate launcher uses
[09:57] <shut-> package manger
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: then settings... repos...
[09:57] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how to sync evolution with google calendar? or evolution with a zen vision:m
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: What you wanted is in Universe so enable by putting a check on the Universal repos.. when you have saved that reload and you should find your program xchat
[09:59] <XandriX> why is it that in ubuntu or any other linux distro for that matter i cant get decent 3d acceleration with my i915 video card
[09:59] <aksa> jph??
[09:59] <aksa> hahah
[09:59] <jeanphi> ghjl
[10:00] <aksa> c bon
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> XandriX: Look to the source... intel..
[10:00] <shut-> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[10:00] <shut-> still get that
[10:00] <shut-> pm me the answer since i got to eat
[10:00] <Thkaal> Hello again.  Well, got it to work once.  However, I was unable to mount my hard drive.  Error: device /dev/sdal is not removable  Error: could not execute pmount
[10:00] <eyequeue> shut-, edgy or dapper?
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> shut: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> shut: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list   and copy the list to the !pastebin
[10:01] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, there's no xchat in edgy, if it ends up being that
[10:01] <Thkaal> So I figured I would try it without the graphics safety.  well, after fifteen minutes of it just sitting there at the second step, i tried it in safe again.  this time i waited ten minutes and....well, i'm back here to get help again.
[10:02] <bobovski> is anyone familiar with  GNU app that works similar to MAPLE
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: thanks... I sometimes assume people are in the right room when they ask questions :)
[10:02] <ompaul> bobovski, what is the function of maple
[10:02] <bubbleentity{L}> problem with keyboard input, arrow and control keys produce a number of unexpected accions, simulating multipe key strokes of gibberish. also down arrow on terminal window produces very old line history, suspect bad xorg.conf?
[10:02] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, it's only because i tried to install it there that i learned that, and it made an impression
[10:02] <bobovski> ompaul: it's a mathematics progem with full graphics support, CAS etc
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: Appreciate the heads up..
[10:03] <ompaul> CAS means nothing to me
[10:03] <sergiusens> XandriX: on gentoo i got 1200 fps or so i recall, now on ubuntu, it just worked, and with compiz and all the bells and whistles glxgears gives me 600fps without tweaking a thing
[10:03] <ompaul> bobovski, you want to know of math programs with graphing ?
[10:03] <bthornton> What's the fastest/easiest way to go about sharing a CUPS printer in Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS?  I'm not even talking about using Samba--just straight CUPS-to-CUPS sharing.
[10:03] <linnuxxy> is there a way so i can download all the packages of ubuntu to a CDs which i can use with apt just like debian?
[10:03] <ompaul> bobovski, does it have to do something else?
[10:03] <ompaul> bobovski, I am not a math person but I can find software with the best of them ;-)
[10:04] <rummik> i just installed the Nvidia drivers from their site, and i get this message "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7184. Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version."
[10:04] <bthornton> or, rather, where can I get info on doing this in Ubuntu?  Certainly the answer is in the CUPS docs, but I was wondering if there was an "Ubuntu-approved" way; i.e. a graphical tool or something.
[10:04] <eyequeue> linnuxxy, sudo apt-get install apt-zip && man apt-zip
[10:04] <bobovski> ompaul: well, I need it to create some graphics...to plot parametric functions. I'm looking at Octave right now...it might work
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !cups
[10:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:04] <bthornton> Grazie, Jack_Sparrow and ubotu.
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:05] <ompaul> bobovski, good luck with that, hope it suits if not file a bug against it ;-)
[10:05] <Thkaal> oh no....no...searching forums...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  Okay, deep cleansing breaths::
[10:05] <bobovski> ompaul: thanks
[10:06] <inkrikked> how to view if there are open port in my bo, i think that my oldfirestarter dont work fine
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> rummik: Any particular reason you didnt use the info from the Ubuntu Wiki to get video setup...
[10:06] <Thkaal> ubuntu....does not.....support....crossfire.....no, say it aint so, say it aint so
[10:06] <marshall> Thkaal: lol
[10:06] <levander> Do these ShipIt CD's really take 6 weeks to get to my house?
[10:06] <dan271828> bye all, have to reboot !
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[10:06] <sergiusens> inkrikked: try nmap
[10:06] <levander> Jack_Sparrow: yes to me?
[10:06] <NewBuntu> is there a way to do dual screen with matrox dual screen card, some sort of script or software that will enable it?
[10:07] <inkrikked> nmap
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> yes to you levander
[10:07] <rummik> Jack_Sparrow: uhh...i didn't think about that one...could you link me to it, i'm still in text only atm
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[10:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:07] <levander> Jack_Sparrow: are there people actually willing to wait 6 weeks?
[10:07] <inkrikked> nmap in localhost?
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> levander: if they dont have the bandwidth, or a friend with it.. yes
[10:07] <inkrikked> ehm ehm
[10:08] <bubbleentity{L}> NewBuntu, yes, but i am querying a related ( i hope ) problem :P
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> levander: They are also very professional looking (jackets/cd's) to inspire friends to use them..
[10:09] <Thkaal> but i'm more worried now about not being able to look at my hard drive
[10:09] <rummik> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[10:10] <levander> Jack_Sparrow: do they do a mass mailing right when a new release comes out?  so you don't have to wait that long when a new version comes out?
[10:10] <sergiusens> to whoever i answered nmap, before quiting I thought it over, use netstat -putan
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> rummik: there is also a manual edit to xorg that may be needed... come back when you are done
[10:10] <whatspy> hi again, now I'd like to know what could cause GRUB to make the computer reboot right after the first kernel loading messages appeared... the message "boot" is displayed and then it reboots...
[10:10] <inkrikked> Starting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-09-12 21:50 CEST
[10:10] <inkrikked> Target host specification is illegal.
[10:10] <inkrikked> QUITTING!
[10:11] <inkrikked> to localhost o 127.0.0.1 dont work
[10:11] <inkrikked> another way
[10:12] <Thkaal> so, how do i mount a drive that it says is there but then says isn't?
[10:12] <coopster> how would i put the system into hibernate from the command line?  i don't know the command that the hibernate launcher uses.  i'm looking in the /etc/acpi directory at the hibernate.sh script, but i dont know how to call it.  i'd like to be able to make the machine hibernate and then restart from the command line, any thoughts?
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Thkaal: what format is the drive...?
[10:12] <Lemino> how do I plug in a canon powershot A80? Linux doesn't seem to find it.
[10:12] <Lemino> :(
[10:12] <bignose_> hi. would i be wrong i thinking Arial is not installed by default ?
[10:13] <LinuxCart> bye ...
[10:13] <Thkaal> it's a sata
[10:13] <chiefinnovator> fyrestrtr, Are you sure I don't want linux-686-smp?
[10:14] <Thkaal> wd800
[10:14] <chiefinnovator> fyrestrtr, The description says that one is for multi-processors
[10:14] <CurtisB> inkrikked - how are you invoking nmap?
[10:14] <inkrikked> sergiunsen
[10:14] <sharperguy> sick linux jokes
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Thkaal: what format is the partition you are looking to mount?
[10:14] <Thkaal> oh
[10:14] <inkrikked> sudo nmap -v -sS -O 127.0.0.1
[10:14] <chiefinnovator> Do I install linux-686 or linux-686-smp for a core2duo?
[10:15] <chiefinnovator> Anyone feel free to answer that
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> chiefinnovator: there isnt that much difference between the 386 and the 686 and you can have both in your grub menu..
[10:15] <ravenous> chiefinnovator: both have smp afaik but you may wanna go with the smp one just to be sure
[10:15] <Thkaal> i have a strange feeling i'm about to be laughed at..... *hides as he whispers* ntfs
[10:15] <chiefinnovator> Sweet, thanks ravenous and Jack_Sparrow
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Thkaal: np, I dual boot xp myself
[10:15] <CurtisB> inkrikked - odd, that command works okay for me.... I'm using nmap 4.03, have you tried upgrading?
[10:15] <bouter> hi
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Thkaal: what have you tried so far..
[10:16] <inkrikked> no because i'm upgrading from warty to breezy
[10:16] <inkrikked> now
[10:16] <bouter> if anyone here would remeber me   All of a sudden I got my wireless working by installing networkmanager on dapper
[10:16] <Thkaal> well, i'm eventually going to migrate fully.  even my family wants linux.  but i have never worked with it, so i am doing tests.
[10:16] <bouter> but
[10:16] <inkrikked> it's diffcult to upgrade nmap now
[10:16] <bouter> I do have a question now
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Thkaal: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> then follow the three line instruction in the script
[10:17] <bouter> I'm connected to my wireless using a 128bit wep key
[10:17] <bouter> networkmanager prompted me for a password
[10:17] <bouter> so I gave in a password    my key is locked behind that password
[10:18] <NewBuntu> has anyone been sucessful in running photoshop 7 in ubuntu under wine?
[10:18] <Thkaal> okay jack, i think you lost me
[10:18] <CurtisB> inkrikked - I see... that might be the problem -- trying to invoke something like nmap while half upgraded...
[10:18] <bouter> zo now when I want to connect to my wireless I have to enter the password to unlock the wepkey
[10:18] <bouter> does anyone know how to remove this
[10:18] <shut-> ok back'
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> NewBuntu: good luck with that.. I use gimp and I am quite happy with it
[10:18] <ba5e> %BThis is BOLDed!%B
[10:18] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1491548 I'm trying to figure out how to syncronize evolution with google calendar and such.
[10:18] <inkrikked> it's incredible, another strange thing
[10:18] <shut-> i need help
[10:18] <CurtisB> NewBuntu - i know it's not the same, but most of what you can do in photoshop can be done in gimp.. you just have to learn the new interface
[10:18] <ba5e> oops sorry
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> shut: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[10:19] <shut-> see i cant get xcaht to work
[10:19] <shut-> ok
[10:19] <NewBuntu> thank you guys... :)
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> shut: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list   and copy the list to the !pastebin
[10:19] <inkrikked> i can't to reach google with firefox, seem that google have exluded my box
[10:19] <inkrikked> incredible
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: Wait a sec.. I thought you said you could not find it..
[10:19] <Blob> Ayone have success installing wine on AMD64?
[10:19] <bouter> anyone here with experience in Network Manager?
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: Did you try to do it from outside the repos?
[10:20] <inkrikked> other sites works fine
[10:20] <inkrikked> my box is fired (big hole)
[10:20] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1491548 I'm trying to figure out how to syncronize evolution with google calendar and such.
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: what do you show in  ...  System->Administration->Networking, DNS-tab
[10:20] <shut-> cp: missing destination file operand after `/etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:20] <shut-> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[10:20] <Thkaal> when you people say X, what exactly are you referring to?
[10:21] <inkrikked> all ok
[10:21] <inkrikked> wait
[10:21] <ba5e> x server
[10:21] <ba5e> xorg
[10:21] <ba5e> xfre86
[10:21] <ba5e> sorry xfree86
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> shut: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup          Didnt work?
[10:21] <ba5e> x is the base of the GUI
[10:21] <luisbg> I just installed phpmyadmin and when I try to access it through firefox it asks me if I want to download the file, instead of opening it, any clues?
[10:21] <exs> Hello, how do I configure totem to always use the X11 driver?.. Is there any prefrences to totem to change display method?
[10:22] <shut-> i got that error
[10:22] <ravenous> its xorg, ubuntu doesnt use xfree86 anymore
[10:22] <inkrikked> jack_sparrow
[10:22] <inkrikked> my dns are orrect
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: paste the command you used please
[10:22] <inkrikked> correct
[10:22] <Thkaal> i'm just wondering how i can save something to my desktop when i can't get it.
[10:22] <inkrikked> my resolution is ok
[10:22] <inkrikked> just google
[10:22] <inkrikked> i' m sure
[10:22] <shut-> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: what do you show... two different IP's or your router etc..
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> shut: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[10:23] <coopster> how would i make ubuntu restart the computer after hibernating, as opposed to just powering off?
[10:23] <inkrikked> i have 2 ip, my router and my isp
[10:23] <inkrikked> correct
[10:23] <inkrikked> incredible... i'm sure that only google have fired me
[10:23] <shut-> it does nothing
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: pull the router and your ip and test it
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> shut: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list                  Then copy the list to the !pastebin
[10:24] <shut-> ok
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: Nothing is good
[10:25] <shut-> !pastebin
[10:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:25] <inkrikked> how to view
[10:25] <JoaoJoao> I have an external USB hard disk that I want to use to install Ubuntu, as I can't use the CD (because of the JMicron bug), any idea how I can do so?
[10:25] <inkrikked> if i'm fired from google
[10:25] <inkrikked> network
[10:25] <Thkaal> well, i'm going to try this, but i doubt it will work
[10:25] <Thkaal> back in half an hour....hopefully
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: Did you remove those others and try it?
[10:26] <gahan> does xmms support microsoft ASF music files?
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: add 68.94.156.1    and  68.94.157.1   remove all others and try again....
[10:26] <mwe> gahan: it supports anything you have a codec for I believe
[10:27] <inkrikked> ok, other dns
[10:27] <inkrikked> wait
[10:27] <JoaoJoao> network?
[10:27] <shut-> http://pastebin.ca/168216
[10:27] <shut-> there
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: You can also drop this into firefox  216.239.39.99
[10:28] <bouter> !network manager
[10:28] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[10:28] <mwe> JoaoJoao: yeah. or usb stick maybe
[10:28] <bouter> !keyring network manager
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring network manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <inkrikked> ehi jack, i agree with
[10:28] <bouter> !keyring
[10:28] <inkrikked> you
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <graabein> hi i followed a xgl  howt and now gdm wont start. can someone help me remove stuff to make it work again?
[10:29] <inkrikked> ti understand, but is strange
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: Earlier you said you coundt find it, then later you said you couldnt get it to run...  Which is it please.?
[10:29] <shut-> it cant find it
[10:29] <inkrikked> why others host are available
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: It does now work correct?
[10:30] <inkrikked> jack_sparrow, in private please
[10:30] <inkrikked> yes
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok, please pm quickly
[10:30] <bouter> problems with keyring     can anyone help?
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> shut, your repos look ok... let me look them over again..
[10:30] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1491548 I'm trying to figure out how to syncronize evolution with google calendar and such.
[10:31] <shut-> ok
[10:31] <Gyuszk> cs
[10:31] <inkrikked> jack how to chat in private with xchat
[10:31] <shut-> last time i had to change them
[10:31] <inkrikked> seem dont work
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > shut-
[10:31] <VonGuard> hello
[10:31] <EtienneG> inkrikked, /query <nick>
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> double click my nick
[10:31] <inkrikked> ok
[10:31] <VonGuard> anyoen got experience with getting gamepads to work under gxmame in dapper?
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> if you are reg'd
[10:31] <exs> how do I add support for .vob with totem?
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: look down
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: well, depends on which irc client...
[10:32] <JoaoJoao> mwe: I tried the USB stick, but mine is 1GB and I couldn't format it with 512-byte sectors (so SYSLINUX works)
[10:32] <graabein> i followed a xgl howto on the ubuntuforums and now gdm won't start. any help on that?
[10:33] <shut-> jack
[10:33] <shut-> how do i know what one to use
[10:33] <MNKentB> I am having problems completing webpages in email with Firefox is there a firewall I don't know about?
[10:33] <MNKentB> I am using Ubuntu 6.06
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: how many channels do you see.. Any of them stand out?
[10:34] <inkrikked> now two
[10:34] <inkrikked> you and ubuntu
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Try the other one...
[10:34] <crouic6> hello everybody
[10:34] <georgy> hello
[10:35] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1491548 I'm trying to figure out how to syncronize evolution with google calendar and such.
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: What was your question?
[10:35] <niruana> whats the command to shutdown my pc?
[10:35] <shut-> So how i know what one
[10:35] <inkrikked> if you develop?
[10:35] <niruana> !shutdown
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <niruana> nu client
[10:35] <dagers> ehh, I was reseting (set to null Read,Write,Exe for Other) permissons for all files, directories in /, how can I reset this to standard (before reset permissons)?
[10:35] <lix> !halt
[10:35] <niruana> no client
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about halt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <georgy> niruna : shutdown -h now
[10:36] <inkrikked> my bad english
[10:36] <niruana> ok
[10:36] <shut-> brezzey or what
[10:36] <inkrikked> ahahah
[10:36] <niruana> thx georgy
[10:36] <crouic6> Who can me explain why I se k9copy for the dvd;it's alone possible to use the copy of dvd in root
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> inkrikked: I used to write software, but havent done much other than spreadsheets for large corps in years..
[10:36] <crouic6> excus for may bad English
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: dapper
[10:36] <shut-> ok
[10:36] <inkrikked> ok
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> crouic6: K3B is good
[10:37] <inkrikked> crouic6
[10:37] <drbashir> !xubuntu
[10:37] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> crouic6: You can set permission inside K3B program
[10:37] <alex222> hey this is a stupid question
[10:37] <crouic6> yes; but to do copy of dvd pictures
[10:37] <inkrikked> ahahah
[10:37] <alex222> im in XCHAT
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr > crouic6:
[10:37] <alex222> how do i see users in the channel
[10:37] <alex222> i cant drag the thing so i can see ppl
[10:37] <shut-> its small
[10:37] <shut-> lol
[10:37] <crouic6> tu parles Franais
[10:37] <dagers> ehh, I was reseting (set to null Read,Write,Exe for Other) permissons for all files, directories in /, how can I reset this to standard (before reset permissons)?
[10:37] <alex222> moi?
[10:38] <inkrikked> crouic6 hahahahaha
[10:38] <crouic6> You speak French
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> crouic6: Sorry I do not speak French
[10:38] <inkrikked> no francais
[10:38] <alex222> i do
[10:38] <alex222> qc
[10:38] <inkrikked> you know
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> crouic6: Poquito Espanol
[10:38] <alex222> i just choose not to.
[10:38] <crouic6> Ok, My English isn't very good but I understand
[10:38] <fiendskull9> hey, my friend is trying to apt-get a package
[10:38] <georgy> crouic6: c'est quoi ton prob ?
[10:38] <crouic6> Have you understood my question ?
[10:38] <fiendskull9> and when he does, it sais this only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[10:39] <inkrikked> sure
[10:39] <crouic6> bah; c'est pas grave
[10:39] <fiendskull9> but yet he isnt updating/running any other apt thing
[10:39] <crouic6> mais quand je veux copier un film avec k9copy
[10:39] <optimusprime> is there a way to fix Firefox's memory leak?
[10:39] <fiendskull9> ps -ef |grep apt turns up nothing
[10:39] <crouic6> a marche bien
[10:39] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help with syncing google calendar and a zen mp3 player with evolution? I have posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1491548 but no one has seemed to respond, does anyone have any ideas?
[10:39] <Jack_Sparrow> He cant run apt with synaptic running
[10:39] <fiendskull9> optimusprime, no
[10:39] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[10:39] <Jack_Sparrow> 3
[10:39] <crouic6> mais quand je veux lire le dvd sous linux
[10:39] <crouic6> je dois lancer un programme en root
[10:39] <georgy> lequel ?
[10:39] <crouic6> sinon; je n'ai pas les droits de le lire
[10:39] <dk06> anyone here good with irssi?
[10:39] <bronson> Should I install a -k7 kernel or a -server kernel?  Either would work...  would one be noticeably better than the other/
[10:40] <bronson> ?
[10:40] <pianoboy3333> optimusprime: use firefox 2.0
[10:40] <crouic6> tous les dvd copis avec k93b
[10:40] <crouic6> k9copy
[10:40] <optimusprime> yeah?....where can I download that?
[10:40] <georgy> quel programme ?
[10:40] <optimusprime> is that a beta version?
[10:40] <dk06> in irssi , how do i switch from the channel screen, to the server screen
[10:40] <crouic6> tous les programmes de lecture de dvd
[10:40] <bronson> I could never get k9copy to work...  it just hung when trying to access the disc.
[10:40] <Damaged_Noob> i'm having trouble deleting a ntfs partition
[10:41] <crouic6> si je veux lire mon dvd copi; je dois lancer; par exemple la commande gksu totem
[10:41] <Damaged_Noob> i delete the partion using fdisk
[10:41] <crouic6> et je sais le lire alors
[10:41] <dk06> damaged noob: how are u trying to delete the partition
[10:41] <Damaged_Noob> and say write changes
[10:41] <crouic6> Do you understand, lol
[10:41] <georgy> as tu les droits pour le groupe video
[10:41] <Damaged_Noob> and i get this error message:
[10:41] <crouic6> oui; car avec les dvd copis sous windows ou les dvd commerciaux; j'ai pas de problmes
[10:42] <Damaged_Noob> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[10:42] <georgy> bizarre
[10:42] <Damaged_Noob> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[10:42] <Damaged_Noob> umm
[10:42] <Damaged_Noob> sorry
[10:42] <crouic6> seulement avec les dvd copis avec k9copy
[10:42] <georgy> bronson : do you have install libdvdcss ?
[10:42] <crouic6> mais cela fonctionne aussi sur mon dvd de salon sans problmes
[10:42] <bronson> georgy, yep
[10:42] <dk06> dont write to your ntfs partition with nix
[10:42] <georgy> install vamp ?
[10:42] <Damaged_Noob> i'm not trying to write it
[10:43] <dk06> and try putting in a windows xp cd, and booting off of it
[10:43] <Damaged_Noob> i want to delete it
[10:43] <dk06> then try to delete the partition
[10:43] <Damaged_Noob> so i can use another type of partition e.g. ext3
[10:43] <crouic6> vamp ; c'est pour copier des dvd ?
[10:43] <bronson> georgy, vamps?
[10:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Damaged_Noob: What tool are you using to delete it?  fdisk or gparted?
[10:43] <crouic6> Tu es francophone, Georgy ?
[10:43] <Rico-> Damaged_Noob: use gparted, then.
[10:43] <Damaged_Noob> fdisk
[10:43] <aceracer> Anyone know of a replacement for Disks-admin? Mine is...really borked. Locks up the computer completely
[10:43] <Damaged_Noob> does that come with ubuntu?
[10:43] <georgy> you need vamps for k9copy to work
[10:43] <bronson> crouic6, "Tool to recompress and modify the structure of a DVD"
[10:43] <Rico-> Damaged_Noob: at the very least you should use cfdisk, not fdisk. fdisk is old.
[10:44] <georgy> crouic6 : oui
[10:44] <crouic6> ah I see
[10:44] <Damaged_Noob> cfdisk does the same thing :/
[10:44] <dk06> how do u change screens from channel to server in irssi
[10:44] <crouic6> comme moi alors
[10:44] <georgy> bien oui
[10:44] <kijjaz> question - Where is the deb repository for QuickTime?
[10:44] <crouic6> sur ubuntu-fr,ils rpondent jamais
[10:44] <crouic6> ici c'est plus sympa, lol
[10:44] <Rico-> kijjaz: i guess you it's in w32codecs.
[10:44] <Rico-> *-you
[10:44] <aceracer> Anyone? Disks-admin replacement?
[10:44] <Damaged_Noob> okay getting gparted
[10:44] <georgy> crouic : peut-te ils ne savent pas ?
[10:45] <aceracer> Or what do I search in Syanptic to reinstall it?
[10:45] <crouic6> mais si
[10:45] <crouic6> je regarde pour vamp
[10:45] <crouic6> je suis xface pour le moment, pas mal
[10:45] <ompaul> !fr
[10:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:45] <kijjaz> Rico: how about quicktime player/plugin.. that i can install and use with firefox?
[10:45] <dk06> motd <irc.eghetto.ca>
[10:45] <aceracer> Rico, check out automatix, thats what I used
[10:45] <georgy> crouic6: en fait je n'ai aucune ide pourquoi cela fonctionne qu'en root
[10:45] <crouic6> yes i kNOW
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> aceracer: Nooooo
[10:46] <ompaul> aceracer, don't suggest that please
[10:46] <crouic6> MOI NON PLUSLOL
[10:46] <aceracer> omg, why not?
[10:46] <Rico-> kijjaz: yes. i use the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[10:46] <Rico-> !RestrictedFormats
[10:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:46] <Rico-> !RestrictedFormats > kijjaz
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: You or me?
[10:46] <Thkaal> Hello again
[10:46] <georgy> bronson : libdvdread, libdvdplay and libdvdnav ?
[10:46] <exs> in the shell, whats the command for delete?
[10:46] <Damaged_Noob> oh heaven's be praised
[10:47] <crouic6> Yes; I know; but here I receive answers, lol
[10:47] <Rico-> exs: rm
[10:47] <kijjaz> Rico-: Thanks a lot!
[10:47] <Damaged_Noob> thanks a lot guys
[10:47] <bronson> georgy, not sure...  I last tried a few months ago.
[10:47] <Rico-> exs: rmdir for directories.
[10:47] <Damaged_Noob> gparted ftw
[10:47] <bronson> I'll try again tonight.
[10:47] <crouic6> from where are you Georgy ?
[10:47] <georgy> you need this to make k9copy work properly
[10:47] <Jack_Sparrow> aceracer: It isnt ready for prime time. It works 95% of the time.. SOunds good until you realize 1 in 20 get hosed up
[10:47] <georgy> crouic6 : Belgium
[10:47] <punkmexic> can someon help me to find a direct link for this  sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5build1_i386.deb  query me please
[10:48] <exs> Rico-:  it's a directory with a file in it, and I'd like to delete the directory.. I'm in su, and it tells me that it cannot delete the directory because there are files within it
[10:48] <aceracer> Well, I have been using it since i found out about it, tried it on 32bit and 64bit and..no problems here so...
[10:48] <bronson> georgy, I don't have libdvdplay or vamps.
[10:48] <crouic6> I too, lol.  speaking French or Dutch ?
[10:48] <Rico-> Rico-: rm -rf directory
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[10:48] <Rico-> oops
[10:48] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:48] <Rico-> exs: rm -rf directory
[10:48] <bronson> georgy, erm, should they be listed as dependencies??
[10:48] <Frustrated_Noob> Jack_Sparrow: When you said put the diskmounter on desktop, you meant the ubuntu desktop, didn't you?
[10:48] <shut-> My package list isnt working
[10:48] <aceracer> Exactly, so...why not mention it? With any program, you use at your own risk. People should understand that and if they don't..bad on them.
[10:48] <Acidic32> hi, how do i set my refresh rate on my TFT
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Frustrated_Noob: yes
[10:49] <exs> Rico-:  thanks, what does the -rf stand for?
[10:49] <georgy> bronson : I use K9copy, and I'm sure you needs vamps and all this libdvd stuff
[10:49] <Acidic32> so X can go 1024/768?
[10:49] <Acidic32> so X can go 1024x768?
[10:49] <Acidic32> even
[10:49] <invitado11> hi all , how can i bridge ath0 ( wich is my wireless network card, NetgearWPN311) with ra0 (witch is my second wireless card, Realtek) in order to share my internet connection ?
[10:49] <bronson> Huh...  sounds like a bug.
[10:49] <bronson> buglet, anway, in packaging info.
[10:49] <Frustrated_Noob> Jack_Sparrow: See, i wondered that because I can't put anything on the ubuntu desktop.
[10:49] <bronson> I'll try again.
[10:49] <georgy> bronson : libdvd stuff are in multiverse
[10:49] <ks> how do I get to svn if dev box has only port 22 open ?
[10:49] <aceracer> ubotu: gee if I thought like that, I'd never have installed linux......bad advice on your part I think
[10:49] <bronson> georgy, thanks.
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gee if I thought like that, I'd never have installed linux......bad advice on your part I think - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <Rico-> exs: r is recursive (deletes subdirectories), f is force (doesn't bother asking for confirmation)
[10:49] <niruana> Hi all, what the command to shutdown my laptop in 50min?
[10:49] <crouic6> yes vamps is installed.  I think it's a bug in dapper
[10:49] <Rico-> exs: goes without saying that rm -rf is dangerous
[10:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Frustrated_Noob: when you go to that page and click file save it dosent let you save to the desktop..
[10:49] <ompaul> aceracer, bringing the stablity of windows to Ubuntu is not what we are about here
[10:50] <aceracer> ahh buotu = bot? lol
[10:50] <crouic6> I had the same problem for my scanner with breezy before
[10:50] <exs> Rico-:  Yes, of course.
[10:50] <aceracer> ubotu even
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about even - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <georgy> crouic6 : i work with dapper !
[10:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Frustrated_Noob: Where does it let you save that script
[10:50] <alex222> does anyone know how to use VI
[10:50] <crouic6> now with dapper it's resolved
[10:50] <shut-> Jack that didnt work
[10:50] <Acidic32> ubotu screen resolution
[10:50] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[10:50] <Frustrated_Noob> Jack_Sparrow: it does, but i'm not on ubuntu right now.  I am on xp.  i have but one harddrive.
[10:50] <Jack_Sparrow> alexwhat are you trying to edit
[10:50] <Rico-> alex222: many of us. but it is a long, hard, road.
[10:50] <crouic6> I was obliiged to open xsane in root for my scanner with breezy
[10:50] <Acidic32> ubotu setting screen resolution
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setting screen resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <Cyberjim> Define "Know how to use VI" I have a Mug of VI in front of me if that helps?
[10:50] <UKMatt> does anyone know why my .mp3's won't play
[10:51] <alex222> Rico, all i want to do is save a file
[10:51] <crouic6> now with dapper I have no more problems
[10:51] <aceracer> Ok anyway, Disks-admin..someone with some knowledge on this program would be really helpful right now. There are 800+ people here..someone has got to know
[10:51] <luisgd> what's up?
[10:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Frustrated_Noob: Save it in C:\
[10:51] <Rico-> alex222: press escape, then type :wq
[10:51] <luisgd> hi, I need help compiling an application
[10:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > UKMatt
[10:51] <ompaul> aceracer, a full question might get a better answer :)
[10:51] <ompaul> !compile > luisgd
[10:51] <aceracer> I asked a full question...3 times and not even so much as a" can't help"
[10:51] <niruana> How to i shutdown my laptop automaticly in 50min?
[10:52] <Cyberjim> You can save the file you are working on in VI with :w
[10:52] <niruana> shutdown -h 50min?
[10:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Frustrated_Noob: But it wont do you much good if you cant get ubuntu to see your ntfs drive
[10:52] <UKMatt> Jack_sparrow, haha ty, was showing my friend how the support works
[10:52] <Frustrated_Noob> jack_sparrow: well, I'll save it in f:\, i don't have a c:\.  also, i can't access it anyway.
[10:52] <Frustrated_Noob> exactly
[10:52] <luisgd> I went to configure gnash, and everything was fine, but then at the end it threw an error message saying "configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables"
[10:52] <ompaul> aceracer, 800+ can't helps are not going to be useful now really ;-)
[10:52] <georgy> niruana : have look in  man shutdown
[10:52] <luisgd> what can I do to fix the problem?
[10:52] <aceracer> My Disks-admin is borked to the point it will lock up the computer completely. Is there a replacement OR what do I look for in Synaptic to remove and or reinstall Disks-admin??
[10:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Frustrated_Noob: So do it when you get into ubuntu
[10:52] <niruana> ok georgy
[10:52] <Frustrated_Noob> Jack_sparrow: Live cd
[10:53] <doctorshim> sup!
[10:53] <crouic6> gnash its a free flash player I think
[10:53] <Frustrated_Noob> jack_sparrow: which means, no network connection
[10:53] <luisgd> yes, it is
[10:53] <ompaul> aceracer, put the contents of the output of the following commands mount ; cat /etc/fstab  in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:53] <crouic6> Do not use this; there are a lot ofo bugs
[10:53] <doctorshim> What would the UMASK setting be for read/write _only_, so users don't go executing files.
[10:53] <luisgd> I'm running ubuntu on PPC, so there's no adobe flash for me
[10:53] <shut-> jack_sparrow: it didnt help me
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Frustrated_Noob: I would suggest you invest in a book called Ubuntu HAcks, chapter 3, how to make a persistent folder on a USB drive and be able to carry your custom programs and settings with you
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: in synaptic, when you do search for xchat what does it find?
[10:54] <Frustrated_Noob> Or get a second hd and install ubuntu on that.
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> that too
[10:54] <shut-> 1 moment
[10:55] <crouic6> yes there is adobe flash
[10:55] <crouic6> the version 7
[10:55] <shut-> xchat-gnome
[10:55] <crouic6> and if you want to use the 9
[10:55] <luisgd> crouic: not for ppc
[10:55] <Frustrated_Noob> just need a 800 mb hd, no problem.  i think i have one of those in a trashbin
[10:55] <rishijain> hey guys
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: isnt that what you wanted?
[10:55] <crouic6> it's possible when you install firefox windows with wine
[10:55] <aceracer> ompaul: done now what?
[10:55] <shut-> yes
[10:55] <ompaul> aceracer, tell me the url?
[10:55] <shut-> one other thing
[10:55] <drbashir> How do I really know I'm running Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu?
[10:56] <shut-> how do u cheate a dir
[10:56] <Frustrated_Noob> thanks for the tips everyone.  hopefully i will get this going soon.
[10:56] <aceracer> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23254
[10:56] <Rico-> shut-: mkdir dirname
[10:56] <drbashir> because I'm still in gnome
[10:56] <invitado11> hi all , how can i bridge ath0 ( wich is my wireless network card, NetgearWPN311) with ra0 (witch is my second wireless card, Realtek) in order to share my internet connection ?
[10:56] <rishijain> can anyone tell me why ubuntu is taking up 30 gigs or so?  do th repo files get stored somewhere?
[10:56] <punkmexic> can someon help me to find a direct link for this  sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5build1_i386.deb  query me please
[10:56] <shut-> thanks
[10:56] <invitado11> i use ath0 to connect to the internet and ra0 i want to set it up as an accespoint to share my connection
[10:56] <luisgd> so can someone help me with my compiling problem
[10:56] <crouic6> ppc; it's a pc
[10:56] <luisgd> please
[10:57] <luisgd> Power PC
[10:57] <luisgd> as in Mac
[10:57] <georgy> luis : what's wrong
[10:57] <crouic6> ah a mac
[10:57] <crouic6> but you can the linux version use
[10:57] <aceracer> luisgd: whats the problem?
[10:57] <drbashir> !xfce
[10:57] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <shut-> um
[10:57] <crouic6> if you use easyubuntu to install multimedia and plugins for firefox; it's easy
[10:58] <bruenig> when I go to System>Quit, the only options it gives me is Lock Screen, Hibernate, Log Out, or Switch User, what happened to shutdown and restart?
[10:58] <shut-> i cant connect to a server i want to
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: sorry but I had to take a call..
[10:58] <Rico-> that reminds me
[10:58] <luisgd> georgy: I went to compile gnash, and when I configured it, it gave me this error message "configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables," and I was wondering if you could help me fix it
[10:58] <aceracer> bruenig: using compiz?
[10:58] <bruenig> no
[10:58] <Rico-> on one of my pcs, clicking the logout button just logs out immediately instead of giving me lock screen/restart/shutdown options
[10:58] <Rico-> any idea why?
[10:58] <crouic6> yes; luisgd; i had the same problem
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> shut-: why a particular server?
[10:58] <aceracer> hmm only see that when somoene has installed compiz
[10:58] <crouic6> with gnash
[10:59] <ompaul> aceracer, can you please post the output of mount
[10:59] <bruenig> well whatever, I can always do sudo shutdown, only shutdown once a week max anyways
[10:59] <georgy> luis: when you make the command, you are sudo ?
[10:59] <luisgd> no
[10:59] <shut-> nvm
[10:59] <aceracer> ompual: how do I show you that?
[10:59] <shut-> i figured it out
[10:59] <ompaul> aceracer, the command is "mount"
[11:00] <luisgd> I'll try it as sudo then
[11:00] <exs> Hello.. how to I change my mouse from software acclerated to hardware?.. because for some odd reason, my graphics driver for my openchrome graphics display makes my mouse pointer disappear on certain software, for example, when using windows applications under Wine.
[11:00] <aceracer> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23255
[11:00] <luisgd> it still gives me the same error message
[11:01] <rishijain> can someone tell me how to free up more space on my ubuntu partition please?
[11:01] <iNiku> mm, the new ipod nano looks pretty cool. any guesses from people with ipod experience as to how well the new nano would work with current linux software?
[11:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !gtkpod
[11:01] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[11:01] <rishijain> iNiku, its supposed to be very good, support-wise
[11:01] <georgy> luis: do you have all tools to compile ?
[11:01] <iNiku> Jack_Sparrow: I know, but will it work with the new nano released today?
[11:02] <Neo8750> anyone here have problem getting splashy to work on boot?
[11:02] <iNiku> I'm sure no one has tried it yet :)
[11:02] <rishijain> iniku, exactly
[11:02] <shut-> brb
[11:02] <luisgd> I don't know
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> iNiku: Not until I try, but my old one works great
[11:02] <aceracer> Neo: splashy is really buggy at least with ubuntu.
[11:02] <luisgd> what tools do I need to get
[11:02] <iNiku> but I don't know much about ipods so can't even begin to guess if it's likely to work...
[11:02] <georgy> luis : like g++, etc..
[11:03] <rishijain> luis, sudo apt-get build-essentials
[11:03] <luisgd> is that available in synaptic
[11:03] <georgy> luis : yes
[11:03] <luisgd> thanks
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> iNiku: If it were made by MS I would worry, but made by Apple.. doubt you will have a probelem
[11:03] <luisgd> I'll give it a try
[11:03] <sixdraw> hi, im runnning kubuntu 64 bit, have a amd 64 and im trying to install wine using the online tutorial but im having problems with the open gl libraries, its looking for the 32 bit versions cause its wine, im not sure which i need and how to install them, any help please?? oh and my graphics card is a nvidia geforce 6200 turbocache
[11:03] <georgy> luis : and rishijan have the right end
[11:03] <aceracer> luis: there is usually some sort of make error that says what is missing..usually.
[11:03] <kevor_> Hello, i've installed Ubuntu server on a HD from Computer1, now i've got the HD in computer2, and my NICs arent working, is there a way to reconfigure the whole system?
[11:04] <jtxx000> how do you change the PATH for sudo?  /etc/environment only works on nonroot users
[11:04] <Phoul> Hello
[11:04] <Phoul> Why is it when i try to start kile nothing happens
[11:04] <iNiku> Jack_Sparrow: I'm sure someone will find out soon enough :)
[11:04] <luisgd> it doesn't say such error
[11:04] <Phoul> like... i type kil
[11:04] <Phoul> kile8
[11:04] <Phoul> and i get no output
[11:04] <luisgd> it just says that the c++ compiler can't create executables
[11:04] <Phoul> And it doesnt open, But it shows up in ps ax
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> iNiku: I really see no potential problems
[11:04] <sixdraw> the guys on winehq sent me here cause they dont know which package i need or how to install it
[11:05] <sixdraw> this is the congigure output : configure: WARNING: Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support
[11:05] <sixdraw> configure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:
[11:05] <sixdraw> configure: WARNING: No OpenGL library found on this system.
[11:05] <aceracer> sixdraw: there was a post on the wiki that mention how to change what wine is looking for, although, I couldn't figure it out exactly.
[11:05] <sixdraw> you wouldnt have a link?
[11:05] <yohan> i just fixed tvout but i have one problem (followed the guide for nvidia)...it works fine in gnome but in openbox my tv is all black just like if there was no wallpaper set and i cant watch or do anything there...just see my mouse arrow
[11:05] <yohan> any ideas?
[11:05] <exs> My mouse pointer disappears on some aplications, one of them being any windows application under Wine. Any help?
[11:06] <aceracer> no sorry, google is your friend
[11:06] <sixdraw> ah right cheers anyways
[11:06] <Phoul> Hello, Im trying to start the program "kile", But everytime i start it up it acts like its going to turn on in the terminal, No output but i cant type anything either, But nothing ever opens
[11:06] <Phoul> It shows up in ps ax as running
[11:06] <yohan> anyone know a command to set the wallpaper except feh?
[11:06] <rishijain> what can i do to free up some space on my ubuntu partition?  is there a place where all repo apts are stored or something
[11:06] <hantoo> Esetroot
[11:07] <ompaul> aceracer, okay there is nothing obvious jumping off the screen at me other than the raid but anyway, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade << start there before you try to remove stuff, might also be a good idea to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename" and then try it again and if that fails I would be very reluctant to say remove the other package if you want to the way is this: "sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename && sudo apt-get install
[11:07] <ompaul> packagename" and it might also be a good idea to do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop as it will tidy up any "silly changes"
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: Better off asking in #winehq
[11:07] <CromagDK> !dk
[11:07] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[11:07] <TokenBad> what does this mean?  rm: cannot lstat `nwn/temp/16:01:14. 20': Input/output error
[11:07] <Phoul> anyone at all..
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !kile
[11:07] <ubotu> kile: KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.8.1-3.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1242 kB, installed size 5512 kB
[11:07] <iNiku> Jack_Sparrow: it seems that they require a new itunes version on mac/windows, which is why I'm kinda wondering...
[11:07] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  I used to think that until it stopped working on both Wine, the new firefox beta, and some KDE applications.
[11:07] <shut-> i got a problem it isnt the right xchat
[11:07] <BiSk-8> hello, does anybody know the name of a program that can give me the ip of all the open connections i have with other computers, for example the ip of a computer with whom i have an open file transfer or voice chat?
[11:08] <simmerz> is there a search page for ubuntu packages?
[11:08] <hantoo> packages.ubuntu.com
[11:08] <aceracer> ompaul: thx, I'll try that but, Synaptic doesn't even show Disks-admin. If I remeove it, how am I expected to get it back?
[11:08] <simmerz> hantoo: thanks
[11:08] <ompaul> !repos > simmerz
[11:08] <rishijain> iNiku, i'm reading it on engadget...they are probably just saying it only requires 7
[11:08] <ompaul> aceracer, well you have to find the package name
[11:08] <aceracer> ompaul:also is there some newer replacement I can use instead?
[11:08] <Acidic32> how do i configure X?
[11:08] <iNiku> rishijain: quite possible
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: have you installed anything outside the Ubuntu repos, used scripts like Automatix or easyubuntu been running as root user?
[11:09] <tkup> what's the mini-command package called? The little input box that goes on the top desktop panel?
[11:09] <rishijain> iNiku, unless it has video playback capability now, which i doubt
[11:09] <luisgd> I wasn't able to download the package
[11:09] <ompaul> aceracer, gksu disks-admin
[11:09] <luisgd> it said "invalid operation build-essentials
[11:09] <georgy> luis :why ?
[11:09] <Acidic32> how do i configure X?
[11:09] <iNiku> rishijain: doesn't sound like it does
[11:09] <BiSk-8> hello, does anybody know the name of a program that can give me the ip of all the open connections i have with other computers, for example the ip of a computer with whom i have an open file transfer or voice chat?
[11:09] <ompaul> aceracer, no but if you do what I suggested you will have an up to date system it would also be a great idea to reboot
[11:09] <jvai> sudo apt-get instal build-essentials
[11:09] <georgy> Acid : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:09] <iNiku> the new 8GB nano does look good though. I might finally break down and get one now...
[11:10] <mklebel> I installed the nvidia driver and hooked up my HDTV with my DVI port, it is running at native resolution, but the top and bottom of the screen are cut off a little
[11:10] <luisgd> I don't know why, georgy
[11:10] <luisgd> I just copied and pasted
[11:10] <Acidic32> ta
[11:10] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  I believe it all started when I went through a tutorial on getting ubuntu to use my graphics display (openchrome) so that I was able to have my screen resoltuion on my laptop of 1280x768. This worked of course, but I believe it was then that I bumped into my mouse pointer hiding. I installed easyubuntu, not touched automatix and I only use "su" or "sudo"
[11:10] <kerwonz> sorry what package has included the c and c++ compiler?
[11:11] <georgy> luis : with synaptic ?
[11:11] <TokenBad> what does this mean?  rm: cannot lstat `nwn/temp/16:01:14. 20': Input/output error
[11:11] <shut-> if the java thin was on desktop how would i make this work when i am cd /usr/java chmod a+x jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin
[11:11] <ompaul> !buildessential
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: What tutorial might that have been?
[11:11] <ompaul> !build-essential
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:11] <ompaul> kerwonz, ^^ up a few lines
[11:11] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  I'll have to find it, so you'll have to give me 5 minutes, but it was on ubuntu's wiki
[11:11] <rishijain> iNiku, what color
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: Are we having fun yet?
[11:11] <Neo8750> when i boot once it loads kernel i get no output till 1 error about module not loading because i have a thinkpad then it boots X (it doesn't show any output of init.d scripts
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: Fine I'll wait
[11:12] <luisgd> I tried buildessential and build-essential
[11:12] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, never - we are not allowed
[11:12] <luisgd> neither worked
[11:12] <Neo8750> anyone have an idea what could cause that?
[11:12] <luisgd> I'll just try synaptic
[11:12] <rishijain> can someone please help me learn how to free up some space on my ubuntu partition, i don't have enough install to warrant 30 G of space
[11:12] <iNiku> rishijain: black aluminum
[11:12] <sixdraw> im lost i cant understand how this works at all
[11:12] <iNiku> rishijain: I'm guessing no more scratches
[11:12] <ompaul> luisgd, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:12] <guerby> hi, I recently moved one of my PC from SuSE 9.3 to Ubuntu 6.06, and from time to time evolution show an error popup when I send email mentionning "X-Evolution-Fcc: file:///home/guerby/evolution/local/Sent", folder which does not exist, any idea of where it could come from?
[11:13] <rishijain> iNiku, they are made like the minis were, they can still scratch, just less noticable
[11:13] <georgy> luis : and ?
[11:13] <ompaul> luisgd, no sudo no work
[11:13] <kerwonz> ompaul, thanks ;)
[11:13] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[11:13] <ompaul> kerwonz, yw
[11:13] <sixdraw> has anyone here installed wine on a 64 bit system?
[11:13] <Jack_Sparrow> rishijain: Downloaded Ubuntu packages are kept in   /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:13] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  I have the " S3 graphics UniChrome Pro IGP" display driver.
[11:13] <enyc> guerby: that sounds like Exalution is configucred to save sent emails in a Sent folhder
[11:13] <rishijain> iNiku, i just wish they had fm support, it sucks when you just wanna watch football while you work out
[11:14] <enyc> guerby: does that diretory exist?
[11:14] <iNiku> rishijain: yeah, well, anything can and will scratch when lugged around in a pocket... the plastic nano looks just obscene after a while, though
[11:14] <iNiku> unless you really baby it
[11:14] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, if i delete those, will anything bad happen to my install, besides re downloading later?
[11:14] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: We dont recommend easyubuntu, especially the old version...
[11:14] <enyc> guerby: is your user account in that same directory in current setup?
[11:14] <guerby> enyc, the dir does not exist, and I could not find in the option where "local" save is activated
[11:14] <luisgd> It still doesn't work
[11:14] <enyc> guerby: I see...
[11:14] <guerby> enyc, my user HOME is /home/guerby
[11:14] <sixdraw> i was told this on \winehq just 64bit nvidia drivers isn't enough (you need 32bit libGL.so.* / libGLcore.so.*)
[11:14] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  easyubuntu makes it easy for most stuff to work, like flash, some codecs etc.
[11:14] <luisgd> I still haven't looked in synaptic
[11:14] <enyc> guerby: ?did you copy evalution config directory from your old install?
[11:14] <Jack_Sparrow> rishijain: No, you would just have to get them again, you can burn them to dvd or cd's
[11:14] <luisgd> I had to go answer the door
[11:14] <guerby> enyc, evolution stuff is in .evolution/...
[11:14] <georgy> luis : you are in big trouble !
[11:14] <sixdraw> but i dont know how i get those files
[11:15] <Jack_Sparrow> exs: And it causes a bunch of oddball problems
[11:15] <enyc> goki-: (from your suse 9.3 install)
[11:15] <guerby> enyc, yes I copied the config, but there was no guerby/evolution in the old setup and no popup ever showed up
[11:15] <enyc> guerby: (from your suse 9.3 install)
[11:15] <Acidic32> lot better
[11:15] <Acidic32> ubotu upgrade
[11:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:15] <rishijain> exs, automatix is much better and safer i think
[11:15] <exs> Jack_Sparrow:  It was the driver I believe done that.
[11:15] <kerwonz> ompaul, you know how to upgrade to gnome 2.16
[11:15] <guerby> enyc, I tried grepping but without success
[11:15] <Jack_Sparrow> rishijain: wash your mouth out with soap
[11:15] <ompaul> rishijain, that is rubbish it is as dangerous as
[11:15] <exs> rishijain:  automatix is propriaty
[11:15] <guerby> enyc, and it does not do so for all emails so I'm a bit lost
[11:15] <enyc> guerby: hrrm not sure what to say.. .ut I expect taht something probelematic has come across from old suse install
[11:15] <georgy> acid : good so
[11:16] <enyc> guerby: sorry, you need to ask  evolution-experts ;-)
[11:16] <rishijain> ahhhh...sorry!
[11:16] <rishijain> haha
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:16] <enyc> guerby: or user Thunderbird instead ;-)
[11:16] <guerby> enyc, any idea of where the evo experts are hiding?
[11:16] <TokenBad> what does this mean?  rm: cannot lstat `nwn/temp/16:01:14. 20': Input/output error
[11:16] <rishijain> i lied...automatix sucks!
[11:16] <enyc> guerby: no, I dont use evolution
[11:16] <guerby> enyc, ok thanks for your time!
[11:16] <luisgd> okay, synaptic is downloading
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> rishijain: Too little too late... :) 50 lashes
[11:16] <ompaul> kerwonz, go to the beta edition of Ubuntu edgy -= the wm is so embedded there is no point if you really need to step up to that line of going halves - but warning I used the word beta
[11:16] <luisgd> the stuff
[11:16] <ompaul> !timetable
[11:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:16] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, sorry, i'm just trying to cover my bases...if i don't want to store them on disc, just running apt-get update will get them all back right?
[11:16] <ompaul> kerwonz, ^^ read that timetables stuff
[11:17] <Jack_Sparrow> rishijain: yes
[11:17] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[11:17] <JohnFlux> i have a raid system
[11:17] <JohnFlux> and the hard disks are getting very hot
[11:17] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, thanks man, i'll do that...i really appreciate the help.
[11:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:17] <enyc> JohnFlux: get more cooling then ;-)
[11:17] <JohnFlux> however I'm not reading or writing to the drive
[11:17] <JohnFlux> s
[11:17] <rishijain> those lashes are starting to hurt slightly guys, and i haven't got one yet
[11:17] <JohnFlux> enyc: but why would they be generating any heat
[11:17] <tkup> repost: what's the mini-command package called? The little input box that goes on the top desktop panel?
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> rishijain: You want PAIN... try Automatix
[11:18] <JohnFlux> they are fully synced
[11:18] <JohnFlux> i'm not using them
[11:18] <JohnFlux> they should switch off
[11:18] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, honestly, i did, and i don't have any problems to speak of
[11:18] <enyc> JohnFlux: some hard disks povwer down
[11:18] <ompaul> !worksforme
[11:18] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:18] <enyc> JohnFlux: some have configurable powerdowwn settings
[11:18] <ompaul> rishijain, ^^ read that last one by the bot
[11:18] <kerwonz> ompaul, its some vulnerable use it?
[11:18] <enyc> JohnFlux: hard disks spin... nad they get hot ;-)
[11:18] <TokenBad> I have tried this command: rm -r nwn and get this is responce  rm: cannot lstat `nwn/temp/16:01:14. 20': Input/output error  anyone know how to fix?
[11:18] <enyc> JohnFlux: depends on the drive etc.
[11:19] <rishijain> ubotu, ain't the the effin truth
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ain't the the effin truth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <Craigen> hello quick question, whats the command for downloading files like .tar files from a homepage?
[11:19] <rishijain> oops
[11:19] <ompaul> kerwonz, it is is not release software so even more at your own risk than release software
[11:19] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, the only issues i have to speak of is the flash plugin for firefox is buggy with sound
[11:19] <guerby> enyc, oh I found some accounts other than my main that have HOME/evolution in their options
[11:19] <ompaul> rishijain, that is the bot and we like to keep the channel family friendly
[11:20] <rishijain> and compiz changes every five minutes
[11:20] <synjet> Craigen: in  a browser?
[11:20] <Craigen> from the terminal
[11:20] <rishijain> ompaul, my bad, haven't been here in a while
[11:20] <enyc> guerby: hrrm.... $HOME you mean?
[11:20] <guerby> enyc, yep, I'm fixing all that stuff
[11:20] <enyc> guerby: oh well have phun
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> rishijain: I beg people that insist on using those scripts that they make a backup First.. do you have a pre-script backup?
[11:20] <guerby> enyc, :)
[11:21] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, uhhh....
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta go neighbor just showed up
[11:21] <drbashir> ok, now i have Xfce installed (Xubuntu) but how do I switch from using Gnamoe, to using Xfce, because rebooting didn't help
[11:21] <drbashir> Gnome*
[11:21] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, thanks again for your help...if you teach me how to make a backup, i'll put it up on the wiki
[11:21] <synjet> Craigen: use wget and the link as in http:/google.com/example.tar.gz
[11:21] <frog_racer> change the session in GDM
[11:21] <georgy> drbashir : coose in the login menuh
[11:21] <Craigen> ah thanks mate :)
[11:22] <synjet> Craigen: np
[11:22] <frog_racer> or if you dont use GDM (i dont, text based login for me) edit .xinitrc in ur home dir
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > rishijain:
[11:23] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, nothing came up
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> tar -cvpzlf /backup.tgz --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz /
[11:24] <rishijain> Jack_Sparrow, sweet
[11:24] <eyequeue> i need someone rather fluent in grub, i can't install it here and need some sort of assistance please
[11:25] <PathagenX> Sorry. I'm a Liloer
[11:25] <luisgd> Okay, I downloaded the tools, and it went a lot further this time, but now I have another error
[11:25] <red_> what is recomended for a wireless lan utility
[11:25] <luisgd> "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[11:25] <red_> like Simple Wireless Scanner that is for Kubuntu
[11:26] <PathagenX> luisgd, tried running sudo ldconfig ?
[11:26] <PathagenX> red_ look for wireless-tools
[11:26] <drbashir> Ah, thx frog_racer and georgy
[11:26] <georgy> luis : xorg-devel ?
[11:26] <red_> and i look for that under the add/remove program correct
[11:27] <red_> well add/remove Applications
[11:27] <luisgd> I tried ldconfig, and It's doing the config right now
[11:27] <luisgd> I'll wait to see if it gives me the same error
[11:27] <red_> i get nothing
[11:27] <luisgd> it didn't work
[11:27] <luisgd> I'll try xorg-devel
[11:28] <red_> nm, i found some
[11:28] <georgy> luis : maybe you need the x development files
[11:28] <luisgd> okay
[11:28] <luisgd> I just opened synaptic and I'm about to download them
[11:29] <rishijain> can someone tell me where the trash folder is through nautilus
[11:30] <lupine_85> ~/.Trash iirc
[11:30] <thebigdeadwaltz> i don't think you can get to the trash via nautilus (by default at least)
[11:30] <aceracer> ompaul: Well of course apt-get update and upgrade do not work, I've done that at least a million times since this problem. I can't find any package that says or uses Disks-admin. So I have no clue how to find it and or remove it much less reinstall it. Kdf works OK as a replcament but not as nice as Disks-admin is. I heard Edgy will not include Disks-admin, but no word on whats replacing it :(
[11:30] <jman> anyone know if there is a way to pass boot options in lilo during boot like grub? or do you need to edit the config file?
[11:31] <trappist> jman: yeah, you have to edit the config file and rerun lilo
[11:31] <rishijain> the reason i ask is that i'm getting permission errors when trying to empty the trash
[11:31] <rishijain> is there a command then that i can use in terminal to empty the trash
[11:31] <thebigdeadwaltz> rishijain: make sure you own the folder/files and that they're in your group
[11:32] <aceracer> rish, check your home directory. It's .trash so you need to show hidden
[11:32] <jman> terminals messed up
[11:32] <rishijain> thebigdeadwaltz, i'm sure they're not, and i'd rather not go through the trouble of resetting permissions if i'm deleting them anyway
[11:32] <eyequeue> i need someone rather fluent in grub, i can't install it here and need some sort of assistance please
[11:32] <ompaul> aceracer, they should work - so the disk admin does not seem to be the root of the issue - you are the first person to come in and define the issue like that, that I know of, that makes this issue yours ;-) paste /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:33] <ompaul> aceracer, by any chance did you use automatix or easyubuntu?>
[11:33] <Pechorin> hello all.. a simple question.. do I really need to have 3 cron services and 2 system log services running at all times?
[11:34] <thebigdeadwaltz> rishijain: to empty your trash via terminal do "rm -rf ~/.Trash/*"
[11:34] <aceracer> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23260 and yes, I have used automatix.
[11:34] <rishijain> aceracer, thebigdeadwaltz thanks guys
[11:35] <ompaul> aceracer, the words "I hope you have a backup" come to mind
[11:35] <thebigdeadwaltz> rishijain: no worries
[11:35] <rishijain> yeah, i got 50 lashes from ompaul for not having a backup ;)
[11:35] <aceracer> backup of what exactly?
[11:35] <aceracer> rish: no problem :)
[11:35] <Slant_> Does anyone know how to rename a USB drive?
[11:37] <ompaul> aceracer, I point you in the direction of #automatix - I will not work further on that - they may be able to sort it for you - I shuddered the last time I read their source - and now I don't bother at all - you could of course reinstall come back to us and we can show you how to get it all working nicely without any scripts that might break the machine
[11:37] <andresmujica> ompaul, what about easyubuntu????
[11:37] <andresmujica> is it worht it?
[11:38] <ompaul> andresmujica, I suggest the documentation - not one or the other
[11:38] <andresmujica> ok..
[11:38] <aceracer> ompaul: well, if Disks-admin is all that is broken as a result of automatix, I can live with that. As for automatix breaking anything in my system, that still doesn't explain why there is no referance to disks-admin or a varient of in Synaptic.
[11:39] <andresmujica> i've got some issues with my server... and i believe automatix is the cause... :(
[11:39] <rishijain> does any one know if i can and how to mount a .bin/.cue image?
[11:39] <luisgd> okay, so that worked, and now I got the error messages telling me that I'm missing some stuff
[11:40] <georgy> luis : what stuff ?
[11:40] <aceracer> andres: what kind of problem are you having with your server that makes you assume it's automatix?
[11:41] <luisgd> I'm missing libxml2, an OGG Vorbis development package, an SDL development package (libsdl1.2-dev), and an SDL mixer development package (libsdl-mixer1.2-dev)
[11:41] <aceracer> I'll not say automatix is the cause of my one problem with one program. I'm certainly not going to do a fresh install for it either lol
[11:42] <georgy> luis : can you download it ?
[11:42] <aceracer> luis:well, install them then :)
[11:42] <ompaul> aceracer, that is an interesting question
[11:42] <luisgd> yeah, I was just updating you guys
[11:42] <tempted> ahh.. sweet... didn't know there was another ver of xchat... i was using the default ubuntu one :/
[11:43] <rishijain> aceracer, what problems do you have due to automatix?
[11:44] <ompaul> rishijain, that is offtopic for here thanks
[11:44] <rishijain> oh
[11:44] <aceracer> well, I think ompaul believes my Disks-admin not working is due to automatix. But I hesitate to assume that. It's the ONLY problem I am having
[11:44] <rishijain> yoyo
[11:44] <ompaul> aceracer, get an md5sum for it please
[11:44] <aceracer> for disks-admin?
[11:45] <rishijain> does anyone know if i can mount bin/cue images?
[11:45] <ompaul> aceracer, yeap
[11:45] <aceracer> umm, how do I do that?
[11:45] <jman__> rishijain: i use cdemu for that also mplayer can play them directly if its a movie
[11:45] <ompaul> aceracer, md5sum /usr/bin/disks-admin
[11:45] <rishijain> jman___, its a game...cdemu will work?
[11:46] <jman__> rishijain: the standard way is to convert them to iso though i never do that
[11:46] <jman__> rishijain: no
[11:46] <aceracer> ompaul: 7f161759ff1e239456b32cb2e097c06e  /usr/bin/disks-admin
[11:46] <xeonmasta> http://swehack.se/pub/leechaccess.mp3
[11:46] <rishijain> jman8888,  what do you suggest?
[11:46] <jman__> rishijain: i dont think its in the repos you would probably have to google for it
[11:46] <rishijain> jman__, oh ok
[11:46] <kerwonz> ompaul, if i didnt install it in how many time you think release gnome 2.16?
[11:46] <jman8888> rishijain, mount
[11:46] <ompaul> aceracer, ee7b1521ecfb3a838f4078d048a786ce  /usr/bin/disks-admin
[11:46] <Ricesteam> Hi i was following the guide to install gnomad2 and I had to do some stuff with my hotplugs(?) now my USB is broke.
[11:47] <ompaul> aceracer, problem with that binary
[11:47] <aceracer> ompaul: suggestions?
[11:48] <ompaul> kerwonz, I do not understand you question, my guess is you are asking when will 2.16 be available, edgy will be released towards the end of October
[11:48] <aceracer> like I said, it doesn't list in Synaptic
[11:48] <ompaul> aceracer, you said apt-get does not work so it is not the only issue
[11:49] <kerwonz> ompaul, can you paste the page to ubuntu grir or something
[11:49] <kerwonz> hehe
[11:49] <aceracer> well, reading the forums, I am not the only person that can't find it.
[11:50] <jpjacobs> anybody else had problems updateing openoffice?
[11:50] <aceracer> apt-get works for everything else, it just doesn't find Disks-admin. It sounds like it was pulled form the repo's which would make sense as to why I can't apt-get it but not why it is not listed in synaptic
[11:50] <ompaul> aceracer, well mine works, yours is there but altered, what date is on the file?
[11:51] <ompaul> aceracer, it is not listed on this machine - only installed it the weekend
[11:51] <panegi> i have a very n00bish question and i know very little about linux so bear with me on this one. at this point i would have absolutely no problem wiping my entire harddrive and installing ubuntu. the queston i want to ask is, are there still any risks if you just wipe the entire drive and install ubuntu? also, would i still be able to connect to the internet or would t delete the files i needed for that?
[11:52] <ompaul> aceracer,  now the question I have asked you is what date is shown when you do "ls -l /usr/bin/disks-admin"
[11:52] <aceracer> ompaul: says modified 29 May 2006, this is info from usr/bin/disks-admin
[11:52] <georgy> panegi : what are you connection
[11:53] <panegi> dsl
[11:53] <panegi> theres a modem like thing it connects to
[11:53] <panegi> i dont know much about coomputers sorry
[11:53] <ompaul> aceracer, something wrong there - I have the same date and a different checksum for the file, mine works your does not
[11:53] <aceracer> ompaul:-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133168 2006-05-29 06:06 /usr/bin/disks-admin
[11:53] <panegi> its white and it says 2wire
[11:53] <georgy> panegi : usb or ethernet ?
[11:53] <ompaul> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 114028 2006-05-29 13:05 /usr/bin/disks-admin
[11:53] <panegi> ethernet
[11:53] <ompaul> aceracer, ^^
[11:54] <|thunder> hey all, installed firefox32 on my amd64 dapper install, i have flash working. But, I have sound working on Google videos, yet it is not functioning on youtube.  what gives?
[11:54] <aceracer> hmm well lol....
[11:54] <panegi> i booted it as a live cd and it was fine
[11:54] <aceracer> differant sizes too by the looks of it
[11:54] <georgy> panegi : no problem to connect by installing
[11:54] <panegi> but i thought maybe it was finding the files for the internet somewhere on my harddrive and not the cd
[11:54] <ompaul> aceracer, yours is not the same as mine
[11:54] <aceracer> you running 64bit dapper?
[11:54] <ompaul> aceracer, date is different
[11:54] <|thunder> i am
[11:54] <georgy> panegi : no it will find on cd
[11:55] <panegi> how big of a risk is it to install if you completely wipe everything, also
[11:55] <quiet> where can i find all of the required perl modules for setting up a bugzilla?? searchng for the specific modules in synaptic doesn't give anything...  i.e. -  MIME::Parser
[11:55] <panegi> sorry to sound paranoid but i dont like the idea of playing russian roullete with my pc
[11:55] <georgy> panegi : no risk !
[11:55] <aceracer> ompaul: mine is 64bit dapper,  and i installed the 6.06.1 version. WOuld this have anything to do with it?
[11:55] <ompaul> aceracer, it might have a lot to do with it
[11:55] <panegi> awesome
[11:55] <panegi> will i need to do any partitioning or is that only for dualbooting?
[11:56] <scruffymogwai> panegi: if the live cd worked, chances are very good it will work after installation
[11:56] <georgy> panegi : during install , ubuntu find your connection
[11:56] <ompaul> aceracer, soi check launchpad.net for a bug with that
[11:56] <aceracer> ompaul: do you know if disks-admin is developed by the devs of ubuntu or is this from some other developer? I'd like to find the source and build it
[11:56] <panegi> any special things i need to know before i go about installing?
[11:56] <georgy> panegi : the graphic installer will help you
[11:57] <panegi> sweet
[11:57] <panegi> you guys are a lot of help, thanks
[11:57] <georgy> panegi : have a look ubuntu.com fo installing
[11:57] <ompaul> aceracer, no idea, and it is not showing up as a dep of anything so I am at a loss where to start looking for it
[11:57] <aceracer> ompaul: I did a search in launchpad.net for disks-admin and nothing comes up
[11:57] <ompaul> aceracer, reaport your bug
[11:58] <Subhuman> aceracer, i think its part of gnome
[11:58] <panegi> should a run a boot and nuke program bfore i install?
[11:58] <panegi> i run*
[11:58] <simmerz> I'm trying to run dapper as a uml guest. breezy works fine, but dapper crashes when I try to log in, either via a serial console, or via ssh. any ideas?
[11:58] <aceracer> Subhuman: ok thanks, I'll check o that then too
[11:59] <georgy> panegi : just run cd then click on install icon
[11:59] <panegi> one last question and ill stop bugging you
[11:59] <panegi> how long does the install process normally tkae?
[11:59] <georgy> panegi : no problem lol
[11:59] <panegi> take*
[11:59] <georgy> panegi : on a P4, 1h30
[12:00] <|thunder> anyone get any ideas why firefox32+flash has sound on google videos and not youtube on my 64 bit dapper ?
[12:00] <panegi> that includes formatting the drive?
[12:00] <clay_> anyone know how to connect to a remote dekstop over http?
[12:00] <georgy> panegi : but read install on ubuntu.com
[12:00] <clay_> I have windows at work , locked down and cant install  putty+xming
[12:00] <georgy> panegi : yes