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DonDmaCAN YOU TELL ME HOW CAN I GO SEE THE OTHER ROOMS?12:10
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DonDmaCAN YOU TELL ME HOW CAN I  SEE THE OTHER ROOMS?12:11
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HawkwindDonDma: /msg chanserv list12:11
HawkwindDonDma: Stop repeating please and drop the caps too.   Thanks12:11
cgjbleh12:11
DonDmaYeah, it was only a mistake, sorry12:11
HawkwindDonDma: You can also just type:  /list12:11
cgjlots of newbies here12:11
aztunwoow a guru has gone12:12
aztunhow sad I feel12:12
herasyeah, that'll teach those n00bs12:12
admin__hello!!!12:12
admin__hello12:13
Hawkwindadmin__: If you are looking for web design help, try something like #Web or #Html or something similar12:13
admin__i am writing code html12:13
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herasadmin__ : http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_colornames.asp12:13
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ace_is there a command to put ubuntu to an earlyer point12:14
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admin__ok heras thank you12:14
admin__i try now12:15
herasadmin__ : np :)12:15
Admiral_Chicagohow can i stop using transparencies in XGL12:15
Hawkwindace_: If you have daily backups you could.  But not something like a restore point in Windows12:15
Admiral_Chicagoit's stuck in a mode where i fade stuff in and out12:15
Admiral_Chicagobut i can't type or use the mouse12:15
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heinkel_111well we don't ahve XGL in kubuntu yet for a reason :P12:15
ace_does ubuntu have a back up file when the os was installed12:16
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Can't help ya there.  I've never touched XGL.  Have you asked in #Ubuntu-XGL ?12:16
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Admiral_Chicagonot yet but i was just curious12:16
Admiral_Chicagothis channel is a little more...responsive than #ubuntu-xgl12:17
Raven301!dvd12:17
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:17
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HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Agreed.  I just don't know the answer for ya unfortunately12:17
Admiral_ChicagoHawkwind, its cool12:17
Kubuntukubuntu rocks!12:17
Kubuntunixternal is god!12:17
Kubuntusmile for a screenshot!12:18
Kubuntu;)12:18
Admiral_ChicagoKubuntu, nixternal is pretty cool12:18
Admiral_Chicagohe is in #ubuntu-chicago all the time, thats our team channel12:18
Kubuntui am nixternal...now smile for a screen shot :)12:18
admin__but i need help about  how give color'text in the page? which element i have to use?12:18
Martijn81:D :D :D12:19
cannonballWhat's generally considered the best way to get wireless pcmcia working if the card's drivers aren't OSS?12:19
Hawkwindcannonball: ndiswrapper ?12:19
Martijn81was that good?12:20
herasadmin__ : No clue here. I did a google search om html colout tags. Lots of info there12:20
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draikI don't know what's missing, but I can't get my OpenGL screensaver to work. Any ideas on what I should be looking for?12:20
cannonballI'm gonna google around for a bit, but here's what I'm up against:  "02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)"12:20
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NthDegreecannonball: Intel have opensourced a lot of drivers12:26
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cannonballI'll look into that.  So far it looks like ndiswrapper is the way to go though.12:27
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linnuxxyim getting "sudo: timestamp too far in the future" error coz i had changed the clock... how to get over it?12:29
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_ShoGo_when is gonna edgy become stable?12:39
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Hawkwind_ShoGo_: Next month is the due date12:40
_ShoGo_Hawkwind: and do u know if last flight is more or less stable?12:41
_ShoGo_I have to format and reinstall so I doubt between installing dapper or edgy flight 212:41
Hawkwind_ShoGo_: Some things are, some things aren't.  I'd recommand staying with stable for now unless you're a developer or want things broken12:42
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_ShoGo_well, for sure I'm not a developer12:42
_ShoGo_hehe12:42
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_ShoGo_i will install dapper then and wait for the upgrade12:42
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DexterFhi12:48
lupine_85hi12:49
DexterFtalked a friend into trying kubuntu.12:49
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DexterFthing is, I need a user guide for him like: how do I install w32codecs, how do I play dvds etc etc. the obnoxious stuff.12:49
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lupine_85the wiki has that sort of stuff on, IIRC12:50
DexterFhe wanted to try on is own without me interfering so he learns it, we're at the w32codec issue for 45min now12:50
lupine_85w32codecs is easy enough - just the PLF repos12:50
lupine_85well, assuming he's not trying it on x86_6412:50
DexterFthat doesn't even mean a thing to *me*12:50
lupine_85!PLF12:50
DexterFnono, win3212:50
ubotuplf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc12:50
lupine_85good bot12:51
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lupine_85includes libdvdcss and w32codecs, IIRC12:51
lupine_85strictly illegal in the USA and most of the rest of the uncivilised world, but there you go12:51
heraser, didn't PLF quit?12:52
lupine_85still works here12:52
DexterFyes, I know - nut when I go "hey, try, is simple" - it better is12:52
lupine_85hehe :)12:52
herasok, thought I read something to that effect.12:52
lupine_85should be fine12:52
DexterFlupine_85: the point is not adding a repos - he could do that. the point is gathering *which* repos12:52
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DexterFas a a total n00b, how is he supposed to know12:53
lupine_85deb line is "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free"12:53
lupine_85the easiest way, of course, is to ask on IRC :)12:54
lupine_85or search the Wiki12:54
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DexterFok, semi-legal-windows-codecs is one of the major tripwires, admitted12:54
Dannilionsince we have a weird mix of national and European laws here12:54
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lupine_85TBH, it's unlikely to get one arrested12:55
lupine_85but no, they aren't legal, strictly speaking12:55
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lupine_85civil rather than criminal offence though, IIRC12:55
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herasDexterF: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:57
DexterF*I* am here on IRC - he doesn't IRC12:58
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jpiccoloshould i download wine from the repos or from there site?01:00
DexterFI pretended n00b and dig it up on google. tough. really.01:00
DexterFwell, doesn't matter, he gave up. lost another one to bill :)01:00
lupine_85jpiccolo: always use repos where available01:00
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cps1966he could do mandriva01:01
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trprDexterF: that sucks. i lost one too. people just want their stuff to work and when its not perfect, they give up.01:03
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razorXhi01:03
DexterFsimilar here01:03
lupine_85well, it's free - how much can you expect? :)01:03
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lupine_85then again, for your average desktop user, windows is free as well01:04
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trprlack of good ntfs support is a major obstacle..  i suppose i can understand not wanting to switch when you have hundreds of gigs on ntfs partitions01:06
lupine_85hopefully all these fines will convince MS to change their tune in that respect01:07
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herasNTFS support is getting better01:08
lupine_852.6.17 has some safe write support01:08
trpryeah. its all getting better.. really fast i might add01:08
BluesKajok, I have java downloaded and extracted it , and i've managed to open the dir in the terminal ,but I've forgotten the install command01:08
lupine_85as long as the total file size doesn't change at all! :D01:08
herasBut dual booting is hasle with lots of overhead01:08
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cps1966you could use vista for test dummy01:10
lupine_85only in the context of gaining a firearms license...01:11
cps1966pyrotechnis class 501:11
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mike___i have just installed ububtu ,Whats an easy way to install jre,w32 etc,,Is there a repo I can add to sources?01:18
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mike___Ubuntu^01:18
lupine_85deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free01:18
mike___cheers01:18
lupine_85PLF repos will give you w32codecs and libdvdcss01:18
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mike___lupine_85: I like the nuvola theme,,nice01:22
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jimmy__hey new user here and i have a question01:29
DexterFdoes PLF have the closed-src macromedia flash?01:29
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lupine_85DexterF: there's an installer for it in the main repos01:30
jimmy__does anybody know how to install flash player 701:30
lupine_85!swf-player01:30
ubotuswf-player: SWF (Macromedia Flash) player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 144 kB01:30
DexterFmain? uh huh. happen to knwo the package name? there's quite a few01:30
lupine_85just install that, and it should do all the hard work for you01:30
lupine_85erm, main repos (to me) = any Ubuntu repository :)01:31
lupine_85as in, canonical repos01:31
DexterFwould have suspected it to be non-free, hence not in the main repos01:31
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mike___I cannot find "single click" option?01:32
DexterFwe installed SWF (Macromedia Flash) PLayer, no go, at least in konq01:32
lupine_85hmm, that might be the Free SWF player01:34
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lupine_85actually, yes it is01:34
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DexterFi knwo a friend added an external repos for that. can't remember tho. google fu!01:34
lupine_85ok, search in adept for macromedia and see what shows up01:34
lupine_85!flash01:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:34
lupine_85here we are01:35
lupine_85install flashplugin-nonfree01:36
cps1966hell i gave up on dapper cause kdelibs would install01:36
lupine_85!info flashplugin-nonfree01:36
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)01:36
lupine_85uninstal the other one first01:36
larson9999i'm waiting for the announcement that they're going to wait until version 10 to release a linux version01:36
lupine_85hehe01:36
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lupine_85doessn't affect me really01:36
cps1966yeah it'll be old like before01:37
DexterFah, !info :)01:37
DexterFjust found it01:37
DexterF!info flashplugin01:37
ubotuPackage flashplugin does not exist in any distro I know01:37
DexterFso that doesn't work...01:38
lupine_85!info flashplugin-nonfree01:38
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)01:38
lupine_85get the name right :)01:38
larson9999heck, i only use it for my 5 year old's nickjr and other sites.  wine is improving quick enough that's it's not so bad01:38
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excitatorydoes anyone know where to get aotuv oggenc debs for dapper?  i've been trying to compile from source, but with no luck..01:39
lupine_85and to test your brand-new flash, I suggest http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/frosty01:41
lupine_85and even if you haven't just installed flash - if you live in the UK, you should watch it anyway :D01:41
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tj_ok i need help01:49
tj_i madde a website that is html01:49
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tj_i added lots of html things but do u no of any advance html wording01:49
tj_i only no like paragraphs,music,videos01:50
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lupine_85http:///www.jmarshall.com/01:50
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lupine_85IIRC01:50
tj_i dont know how to like add blogs or forums or anything like advanced01:50
tj_is that link toi me?01:50
Hawkwindtj_: Yes01:51
lupine_85yep01:51
Sannetj_: www.htmldog.com and also #css here on freenode01:51
tj_no hostname specified01:51
Hawkwindtj_: Also, for web design stuff you might try #Web or #HTML as those channels are geared more towards that stuff too01:51
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tj_ill have to try those thanks01:52
booby103944hello01:52
booby103944can anyone tell me why kubuntu is doing this?.......01:52
booby103944~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic01:52
booby103944E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:52
booby103944E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:52
Hawkwindbooby103944: Do you have adept open when you do that ?01:53
lupine_85because you're using another package manager somewhere01:53
lupine_85oh01:53
lupine_85!pastebin01:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:53
BluesKajok, I have java downloaded and extracted it , and i've managed to open the dir in the terminal ,but I've forgotten the install command01:53
rodrihi, all01:53
lupine_85if you're not using another package manager, delete the lock file (/var/lib/dpkg/lock) - presumablt, it crasged at some point01:53
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lupine_85erm, presumably and crashed ;)01:53
SanneBluesKaj: isn't java in the repositories?01:53
BluesKaj./install.sh doesn't work01:54
BluesKajno this one is non free01:54
Hawkwindbooby103944: You can't have adept or any other apt-get commands running at the same time01:54
BluesKaji need it for azureus01:54
booby103944thank you01:54
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booby103944ill try it again01:54
BluesKajdinnertime ..bbl01:54
mike___jre available through any repo?01:55
Riddellmultiverse01:55
mike___mmm cannot find it01:55
trpri thought java was added to the repos. its something like sun-j2sdk1.501:55
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Sannehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java01:56
Sannehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=sun-java&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all01:57
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Sannethere you go :)01:57
rodrisun-java5-jdk01:57
rodriisn't it?01:57
booby103944anyone use skype on the ubuntu?02:00
cps1966yes02:00
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booby103944im a noob here, so here goes the questions02:01
booby103944sudo apt-get install skype02:02
booby103944doesnt work02:02
booby103944E: Couldn't find package skype02:03
booby103944??02:03
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booby103944cant get gkrellm02:03
booby103944ether02:03
Hawkwindbooby103944: Skype isn't open source02:04
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booby103944so i cant use it then?02:04
mike___booby103944: I have just installed it02:04
mike___goes fine02:04
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Hawkwindbooby103944: You can get it from a repo in debian though.  Not always wise to use Debian sources unless you know they are safe, which I have one that is02:04
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Hawkwindbooby103944: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free02:04
Hawkwindbooby103944: You could add that line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file02:05
Hawkwindbooby103944: Then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype02:05
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booby103944thank you02:06
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booby103944what about gkrellm?02:06
booby103944its an open source, but i cant seem to apt-get it02:07
Sannebooby103944: if you want to know if some software is available precompiled for ubuntu, you can search for it at packages.ubuntu.com02:07
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booby103944sudo apt-get install gkrellm02:07
Hawkwindbooby103944: It's in the repos02:08
Sannebooby103944: you can also find out if you need to enable additional repositories (universe, multiverse...)02:08
Hawkwindbooby103944: apt-cache search gkrellm02:08
booby103944thanks for the infor guys, sorry im such a noob on this02:08
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Hawkwind!info gkrellm02:08
ubotugkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB02:08
Sannebooby103944: no need to apologize, we've all been there sometimes :)02:08
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booby103944thank you guys, for helping... i would love to throw my windows box out the window02:09
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Hawkwindbooby103944: Stick around and we'll get you to a point where you can do just that :)02:09
booby103944sweet02:09
mike___Ubuntu and multimedia,,,mmmm eerr02:09
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Sannebooby103944: also check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/ if you like, lots of helpful stuff there.02:11
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beemonkother than gaim, are they any other good msn or aim clients around?02:12
lupine_85kopete :)02:12
beemonkhmm didnt really like it :/02:13
lupine_85aMSN?02:13
lupine_85never used that though02:13
samiam010203did you trry kmess?02:13
beemonknice but, too much hassle for me to get truetype fonts installed02:13
beemonki just switched from xp a week ago so im a noob still02:13
HawkwindGaim is probably the most updated and nicest looking IMO.  There is amsn and others I'm sure02:13
beemonksetting up tcl/tk and truetype fonts and smoking cannabis is VERY difficult02:13
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lupine_85surely if you're smoking cannabis you don't need truetype fonts?02:14
beemonkyou can get amsn to look very nice but....I've been using windows for 15 years, im handicapped02:14
lupine_85;)02:14
beemonkhahaha02:14
rodri:D02:14
beemonknah i still need true type fonts :(02:14
GStubbs43Hey does anyone know this?  I have both Gnome and KDE on my computer, is there an automated way to put only kde apps on the KDE menu, and only gnome apps in the gnome menu?02:15
rodrithere are tutorials to set tcl and truetype fonts that are very easy02:15
rodriand long :(02:15
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beemonkI downloaded Ubuntu....then had problems with gnome and decided to try out KDE....downloaded KDE, had an error with the install config, couldnt fix it, so i just downloaded Kubuntu instead :P02:16
beemonkrobert__02:16
beemonkerrr, rodri02:16
beemonki followed them to the T02:16
beemonkobviously im an idiot :(02:16
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booby103944ok, i guess im below a NooB now..... i dont understand how to install gkrellm02:17
rodrino, probably you follow the wrong tutorial02:17
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nnn0forget gkrellm, try conky :D02:17
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rodriI use one in spanish that works perfect02:17
beemonki'll look back at my attempt in 6 months and laugh at myself02:18
Hawkwindbooby103944: Have you enabled all of your repos ?02:18
beemonkbooby10394402:18
Hawkwind!info gkrellm02:18
ubotugkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB02:18
beemonkI dont know what gkrellm is02:18
Hawkwindbooby103944: It's in multiverse02:18
beemonkwhat am i02:18
rodriyou only have to copy/paste the commands02:18
nnn0!info conky02:18
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB02:18
nnn0?02:18
HawkwindConky isn't for everyone :P02:18
nnn0k02:18
nnn0:)02:18
HawkwindI don't particularly care for it myself, though it's not horrible or anything02:19
nnn0i like the clean design02:19
nnn0and transparency02:19
Hawkwindgkrellm is transparent too02:19
nnn0k02:19
rodrihere is http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/2128502:19
HawkwindOr can be with a theme02:19
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booby103944im going to go reg for this site, and then could some nice soul go in a privite room and talk me through it?02:20
Sannewow, sourceforge is really slow again today (trying to go to conky.sourceforge.net so I can have a look)02:20
booby103944i will name my first born after ya02:20
Hawkwindbooby103944: Just enable your repos and you can install it02:20
Hawkwind!repos > booby10394402:20
Hawkwindbooby103944: Read the info the bot sent you in pm02:20
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booby103944i will02:21
booby103944hank you02:21
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booby103944thank***02:21
hiro_pHi, everytime i try to compile something i get this message: "make: *** [default]  Error 2" can anybody help me please?02:21
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Hawkwindhiro_p: What are you trying to compile, and is there not a prebuilt package already ?02:24
hiro_pi'm triying to installl some thinkpad related software02:25
hiro_pi didnt find any precompiled software02:25
hiro_pbut i always get this error message, no matter what i try to compile02:25
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Hawkwindhiro_p: Have you installed build-essential ?02:26
hiro_pHawkwind: yes, i have build-essentials and binutils installed02:27
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hiro_pHawkwind: the whole error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2327002:28
mewshihi02:29
mewshii'm trying to get my broadcom bcm4318 to work02:29
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mewshicould someone help me?02:29
Hawkwindhiro_p: Not sure on that one to be honest02:30
Hawkwindmewshi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517402:30
Hawkwindmewshi: Have you read that URL ?02:30
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hiro_pHawkwind: thanks anyway02:32
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mewshiit can't find bcm43xx-fwcutter02:33
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Sannemewshi: it's in universe02:35
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lupine_85mewshi: generic firmware in http://www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx02:36
lupine_85the tar.gz, NOT the script02:36
Sannelupine_85: why should mewshi not use the version from the universe repository?02:36
lupine_85because the file in question is the firmware itself, not the firmware cutter :)02:37
lupine_85it might not work,but there's a good chance it will02:37
lupine_85up to mewshi of cours02:37
lupine_85...e02:37
Sannelupine_85: oh, ok, thanks for the clarification :)02:37
GStubbs43How do you change the clock from 24-hr format to 12-hr format?02:38
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SanneGStubbs43: the clock on the tray of kubuntu panel?02:39
GStubbs43yup02:39
SanneGStubbs43: richt click, Date & Time Firmat02:40
SanneFormat even02:40
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GStubbs43Where do I go from Date & Time Format?02:41
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SanneGStubbs43: there should be a tab "Time & Dates"02:41
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booby103944ok, im back.... anyone know why im getting this?02:42
SanneGStubbs43: when you are there, you can click on the help button to get the available time format options.02:42
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GStubbs43Thanks Sanne! Sorry for the easy question! :D02:43
booby103944Error writing /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied02:43
SanneGStubbs43: you're welcome, and no need to apologize :)02:43
CheeseBurgerManbooby103944: use sudo (console editor) or kdesu (GUI editor)02:44
booby103944thank you ill try that02:44
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GStubbs43Oh one other thing, what KDE version does Kubuntu 6.06 use? (by default) Is it 3.4.3?02:45
Hawkwindbooby103944: Something like:  kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list02:45
HawkwindGStubbs43: 3.5.202:45
HawkwindGStubbs43: Though 3.5.3 was uploaded later that night of release of Dapper02:45
booby103944OMG i feel like a kid with a new toy!!!02:45
GStubbs43Thanks Hawkwind02:45
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HawkwindGStubbs43: No problem02:46
Hawkwindbooby103944: Hah!  I still get that feeling even after using linux for 5 years now02:46
SanneGStubbs43: most KDE apps have help->about kde that says the version number of kde you're running.02:46
renatim-brhow do I acces another HD from my ubuntu? how do I mount it? anybody could help me with this one?02:46
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earthsoundis there a repository that has a more recent version of kaffeine than 0.7.1?02:48
GStubbs43Ahh... thanks again Sanne02:48
CheeseBurgerManGStubbs43: you can also run kded --version from the console.02:48
Hawkwind!info kaffeine02:48
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB02:48
GStubbs43and CheeseBurgerMan02:48
GStubbs43:-D02:48
SanneGStubbs43: my pleasure :)02:48
Hawkwind!info kaffeine edgy02:48
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2087 kB, installed size 5264 kB02:48
booby103944ok guys, in the last hour i became fully aware why linux is by far the best OS out there, and thanks to you guys for all the help02:49
Hawkwindearthsound: Looks like the newer version is in Edgy, but not recommended you upgrade02:49
skrykingheh02:49
booby103944i will def be helping the Linux groups out02:49
booby103944can we get a group hug now?02:49
earthsoundHawkwind: is the version in edgy only available if you're running Edgy? or can I install/run it from dapper?02:50
CheeseBurgerManearthsound: you could try to download it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and installing it with dpkg -i, but it may have dependency problems.02:50
skrykingi've been running some form of linux since about 94 or 95, and I'm still not convinced its best... :)02:50
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CheeseBurgerManskryking: but you've obviously not found it to be horrible, since you've been running it for over 10 years. ;)02:51
Hawkwindearthsound: I wouldn't recommend using versions in Edgy on Dapper.  It can and probably will break things02:51
Sanneearthsound: if you're adventurous, you could even get the source package from edgy and try to recompile it for your dapper. That way you minimise dependency issues.02:52
skrykingcheeseburgerman, exactly :)02:52
earthsoundSanne: i suppose that would be the best route02:53
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Sanneearthsound: yep, I think so too.02:53
earthsoundI guess I had a misconception of adept...but I thought that that's what adept did: grabbed packages/sources, compiled them w/ specifics to your install...02:54
earthsoundhow far off base is that assumption?02:54
skrykingearthsound, download a copy of vmware-server..its free now...install dapper on it and then test the edgy package on it...that way if it borks it....you don't have to worry about your main OS02:54
earthsound(I haven't played w/ any linux distros since gentoo a while back...and I'm not used to the watered down yet user friendly point and click interface of adept)02:55
lupine_85adept installs binary packages02:55
Sanneearthsound: adept installes binary packages. I don't know if adept can also download source and compile. But the command line too apt can do that.02:55
Sannecommand line tool02:55
earthsoundah, I guess that's what I'll use then :)02:55
trprearthsound: thats more accurate for a distro like gentoo. adept / apt deals primarily in binary packages (although those packages are created from source packages, which are also retrievable)02:55
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earthsoundbrb...gotta put kids to bed02:56
chozabuhey, anyone know why there is no wine on the ubuntu64 repos, despite it being manually installable?02:57
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chozabunot complaning, just kinda idily wondering...02:57
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Sannechozabu: there's no 64bit wine. While the 32bit version is installable, I think it is not an officially supported way of doing things.03:03
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larson9999dang! i dropped my external usb drive with an hd inside and now it won't work.  it only fell the height of the computer tower and the floor is carpeted03:03
lupine_85glass....03:04
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ErtainCrap.  I forgot how to unlock my pack database.03:05
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booby103944anyone use kweather?03:08
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lupine_85it's generally broken03:10
cps1966no its not you have to add more than on estation then it works03:10
lupine_85with only one station in my area, that's not a possibility :(03:11
cps1966well add another close by03:11
cps1966and choose yours03:11
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CraZy675I got a 250gig external hdd, i've connected it and i've had mounting /dev/sbd1 forever03:13
cloakableI'm looking to switch to Kubuntu from Ubuntu. Is there any hidden files and folders in my home directory that can be safely deleted?03:13
CraZy675is there a way I can format this thing in ext303:13
CraZy675its in fat 32 right now03:14
cps1966qparted can do it03:14
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CraZy675got gparted open03:15
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CraZy675why is it in fat32 and not ntfs?03:15
cps1966who knows03:16
CraZy675okay applying03:17
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Sannenight all03:18
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CraZy675ok i partitioned my drive half ext32 half fat32, how do I stop the fat32 partition from auto mounting?03:21
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CraZy675its an external drive03:22
lupine_85CraZy675: add "noauto" to the fstab03:22
CraZy675i only want that for fat3203:23
CraZy675or ntfs03:23
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tyler_dI cannot burn music using rythmplayer??? any ideas?03:26
BluesKajk3b03:29
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stoichello everyone03:36
wayne_i installed a program but cant seem to find it on my consol or my menus now..... have i done something wrong?  program was kweather03:36
CheeseBurgerMan_wayne_: I believe it's a kicker applet.03:36
wayne_ok, not sure what that means03:37
Telroth|Schoolkweather is a mini-app (applet) that runs in the kicker (taskbar)03:37
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sakiAnyone on that has a HP Deskjet F340 aio printer?03:38
CheeseBurgerMan_Not a problem. :) Right click on your taskbar, go to Add Applet... and then find  Kweather in the list.03:38
Telroth|Schoolright click on blank space in the taskbar, select "add applet to panel" and then find kweather03:38
Telroth|Schoolit's at the bottom03:38
Telroth|Schoolthen click "add to panel"03:38
jpiccolohow can i tell if i have video acceleration?03:38
Telroth|Schooljpiccolo, glxgears -info03:38
Telroth|Schoolrun that in a console03:38
Telroth|Schoolif it reports fps > 50 or so, acceleration is likely03:39
jpiccoloGL_RENDERER   = GeForce 7900 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!03:39
jpiccolono fps report03:39
wayne_thank you03:39
Telroth|Schooli get ~2000 fps on a nvidia geforce 5200fx03:39
freddirksehi all.  anyone know a bit about software raid?  I upgraded my kernal and now my system won't boot...can't see the raid devices...03:40
Telroth|Schooljpiccolo, give it a bit, it makes a report every 5 seconds03:40
Darkkishhola03:40
Darkkishdhat?03:40
Darkkish~2000 fps on a 5200fx?!03:40
jpiccoloi did, i outputs alot of stuff under GL_extensions03:40
jpiccolobut no fps report03:41
CraZy675ok so I got this external hdd partitioned but now it doesn't seem to mount03:41
wayne_anyone know what the program john is?03:42
Telroth|Schoolwayne_, "man john"03:42
Telroth|Schooljpiccolo, below the stuff under the GL_extentions, it should print fps every 5 seconds03:42
wayne_thank you03:43
Telroth|School(at least mine is)03:43
Telroth|Schoolyou might try glxgears -fps03:43
Telroth|Schoolas i've seen that used03:43
Telroth|Schoolor glxgears -printfps03:43
jpiccolo73488 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14697.570 FPS03:44
jpiccolothere we go03:44
Telroth|School:)03:44
jpiccoloi wonder if my sli is enabled03:44
Telroth|Schoolyou have glx acceleration03:44
Telroth|Schooli can't help you there03:44
jpiccoloyeah03:44
Telroth|Schoolthe lowly 5200fx doesn't have sli for me to play with03:44
Telroth|School(*saving for 7950GX2*)03:45
jpiccoloCedega says i dont have opengl support03:45
Telroth|Schooljpiccolo, then you need to google the error message03:45
Telroth|Schooli don't have a copy of cedega to mess with03:45
jpiccoloX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16903:45
Telroth|Schooljpiccolo, does your xorg.conf have stuff for a wacom tablet on /dev/wacom in it?03:46
Telroth|School(brb)03:46
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jpiccoloyes it does03:47
jpiccolojust take out the whole section?03:47
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royalhi again03:51
Telroth|Schooljpiccolo, yes03:51
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royalhi i'm just wondering two things: first off how do I create a Dual boot on this computer (the windows computer) secondly how do I install flight simulator (windows version) onto my linux PC?03:53
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sakiroyal03:53
royalyes?03:53
sakito dual boot you must either a. Setup GRUB to recognize both partitions b. setup LILO03:54
sakibecause kubuntu uses grub we'll go with that03:54
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royalk.  (this is just info for later btw... the flight simulator thing I would like to try tonight)03:55
NeoSakiWhen you install Kubuntu 6.06, GRUB should automatically be setup to see your Windows partition and setup for it, if not we will have to manually edit it...03:55
NeoSakias for Flight Simulator, you will need to install Wine03:55
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royalk03:56
NeoSaki!wine03:56
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:56
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earthsoundback03:57
Darkkishfayth03:57
royalk03:57
VIC-20sera03:58
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royalis there a way to install wine from the outside? (like with a jumpdrive)03:58
earthsoundhow do I point apt-getto the edgy repository(ies) to grab kaffeine sources from edgy?03:59
earthsound*apt-get to03:59
StevenXguys. i have a question. i was using a system that use KDE as the default windows manager. I was able to download and install other window managers, such as xfce, etc.03:59
StevenXcan i not just install the normal ubuntu and download kde for it?03:59
cloakableYes03:59
cloakableYou can03:59
StevenXcloakable: then why does kubuntu exist?04:00
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royalfor people that don't know how to do it?04:00
StevenXoh. ok04:00
StevenXthank you.04:00
StevenX;-)04:01
cloakableStevenX: Because it makes it easier. You don't need to either have both GNOME and KDE on the same computer, or in the case of the server install, for people who don't have the technical knowledge to setup KDE from the command line04:01
abattoirStevenX: you can install normal kubuntu and get gnome for it too.. why does ubuntu exist :P04:01
royalbtw is there a way to install wine from the outside? (eg jumpdrive)04:02
NeoSakiroyal: Do you not have a linux computer with net abilities?04:02
abattoirStevenX: some people prefer their OS to come w/ KDE as the default DE, others GNOME... so it is to cater to both these markets04:02
NeoSakiroyal: you can, but its a bit annoying...04:02
royalno I just have one internet connection, and the windows computer is using it04:02
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Darkkishi installed a flash player plugin04:03
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Darkkishand now it locks up Firefox04:03
Darkkish>.<04:03
obf213my printer doesnt work, it just spews out blank pages04:03
Darkkishi just want to see a stupid flash thing on my erm... *changes font to small* myspace04:04
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?04:04
Darkkishyeah i did that04:04
Darkkishbut it didn't even install anything04:05
Darkkishwell it kinda did04:05
Darkkishbut it didn't appear to work with firefox... or something04:05
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla ?04:06
gmgrigsbyhello all04:06
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magic-1hi alls!!!04:07
Darkkishi don't have that telroth04:07
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Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, multiverse and universe enabled?04:08
obf213i disabled my wireless and plug in my ethernet and i lost my connect until i enabled my wireless again y is this04:08
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obf213i just hotkeyed the wireless radio off04:09
GnelgI am new to Kubuntu and new to kde so forgive my ignorance please, but is there a way to put what would be the same as a shortcut in windows of my Home Folder on the desktop?04:09
DarkkishTelroth|School,  yes04:10
magic-1mmm04:10
obf213plus i set up printer using printer wizard or w/e and all it does is make the pritner spew out blnk pages04:10
obf213Gnelg: system menu-> home folder04:10
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obf213anyone know about the printer?04:11
Gnelgobf213, yes I have been attempting to drag and drop that one but it doesn't let me04:11
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AWOSDevI need help with, well, anything.04:13
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AWOSDevA CD of mine is going bad.04:13
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AWOSDevTrying to read it on a M$ computer gives me "Cannot read from the source file or disk"04:13
obf213Gnelg04:13
obf213open konquerer04:14
Gnelgyes?04:14
AWOSDevdd and cat both say "/dev/hdc: Input/output error"04:14
AWOSDevHow do I make dd or cat 'ignore' the I/O error?04:14
fowlduck-AWOSDev, try it on another CD-ROM04:14
Gnelgok04:14
AWOSDevLike in the days of yore in DOS04:14
fowlduck-AWOSDev, -noerror04:14
obf213Gnelg enter this system:/04:14
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AWOSDevfowlduck-, I already tried it in two other drives04:14
fowlduck-AWOSDev, iirc04:14
obf213then you can right click the home icon and copy to desktop04:14
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AWOSDevdd: invalid option -- n04:15
AWOSDevcat: invalid option -- o04:15
fowlduck-lol04:15
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royalalright how do you install Wine from the outside?04:15
AWOSDevcat: unrecognized option '--noerror'04:15
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obf213anyone know how to set up  a printer04:15
fowlduck-let me look04:16
AWOSDevAt my disc?04:16
obf213i set up mine but it just spews blank pages04:16
AWOSDev:)04:16
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obf213or set up a printer/scanner04:16
Telroth|Schoolobf213, did the test page print correctly?04:16
obf213i dont kow what correctely is04:16
obf213it did print some stuf04:16
AWOSDevobf213, when I first installed Linux it did that too04:16
AWOSDevobf213, then I realised, I was out of ink :)04:16
fowlduck-AWOSDev, man dd04:16
Telroth|Schoolit's a page that has colors in top left, 1-degree radial lines in top right, and printer info in bottom half04:17
AWOSDevobf213, so the question is: Are you out of ink?04:17
Darkkishgrr04:17
obf213no, because it printed stuff on the tes04:17
Darkkishi am having trouble installing flash player -_-04:17
obf213just soem random text04:17
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, i can't think of much to help you with right now04:17
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, does flash run fine in konqueror?04:17
Telroth|SchoolOH04:17
AWOSDevconv=noerror, ahhh, thanks fowlduck-!04:17
fowlduck-AWOSDev, dd if=/dev/hdc of=./blah.img noerror04:17
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, is it running with artsdsp, but is arts not running ?04:17
renatim-brI need some help mounting a different HD here.... please!!04:18
obf213it worked with my windows comp i took th eusb plug it in my laptop and set it up and it just spewed out blank pages04:18
Darkkishflash doesn't appear in konq04:18
Darkkishand, freezes firefox04:18
Telroth|Schoolobf213, have you printed a test page in linux ?04:18
Gnelgobf213, I did try that also but it copies about a gig of ogg files to the desktop inside the folder, I'm just kind of wanting a pointer to the folder rather than copying it04:18
Telroth|SchoolGnelg, right click -> create -> link to url04:19
Telroth|Schoolclick enter04:19
Telroth|Schoolclick enter04:19
Telroth|Schoolright click-> properties04:19
AWOSDevfowlduck-, can I make it just give up easily?04:19
Telroth|Schoolselect icon and/or rename to "Home" if you want04:19
AWOSDevit sits *forever* at 1540096 bytes04:19
AWOSDevit's still there, even04:19
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AWOSDevAlso, when I tried to run fsck on it, it said it couldn't find 'fsck.iso9660'.  It wasn't in apt-cache search either, and Google gave me nothing.04:20
timialright so anybody know wht the problem with my printer is?04:20
AWOSDevI don't know what 'M' to RTM. :)04:21
Telroth|Schooltimi = obf213?04:22
fowlduck-AWOSDev, in one terminal do the dd, in another just use watch to watch the image filesize grow04:22
timiyes04:22
timii got disconneced04:22
Telroth|Schooltimi, kcontrol -> printers -> administrator mode -> enter password -> add -> printer/class -> local printer04:22
fowlduck-AWOSDev, it runs forever04:22
timitelroth i did that04:22
AWOSDevWell, fowlduck-, I'm kind of using ls -ld S2.img but watch works too :P04:22
timiand i set up  a printer, whenever i send the test page w/ that it is printed some junk04:22
Telroth|Schooldid you print a test page from that wizard after selecting a driver?04:22
fowlduck-AWOSDev, otherwise, get a cd resurfacer, if it's that important04:22
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timijunk as in legitamte words04:23
Telroth|Schoolah, if it's junk then pick a different driver04:23
NthDegreeAWOSDev, just dd the CD04:23
DarkkishTelroth|School, it locks up firefox, and doesn't show up in Konq04:23
Telroth|Schoolmy printer had about 10 drivers04:23
timilike copyright and soome other stuff, when i send a documetn it spews out blank pages04:23
GnelgTelroth|School: thanks04:23
Telroth|Schooli just tried each one until it worked04:23
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, is it running with artsdsp, but is arts not running ?04:23
AWOSDevNthDegree, um, I am dd'ing it?!04:23
NthDegreelol04:23
NthDegreethen use error correction on it afterwards :)04:24
earthsoundDarkkish: did you try http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape404:24
AWOSDevError correction?  Did I miss something in man dd or what!?04:24
Telroth|Schoolearthsound, it's the same as what you get with flashplugin-nonfree04:24
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree --reinstall04:25
NthDegreeAWOSDev, burn the image to a CD-RW using K3B in DAO mode a good few times04:25
AWOSDevNthDegree, I would if it would ever dd it.04:25
timiTelroth|School ahh so thats wht the test page is supposed to look like thanks04:25
AWOSDevI have a Konsole full of04:25
timiyeah i was using i guess the wrong driver04:25
DarkkishTelroth|School,  artsd is running fine04:26
NthDegreedd if=/dev/hdc of=cdimage.iso bs=100M04:26
AWOSDevdd: reading '/dev/hdc': Input/output errror; 3024+0 records in/out. 1.5MB copied, [increasing]  seconds.04:26
NthDegreehmmmm04:26
AWOSDevIf I do it in blocks of 100M then won't it just error faster?04:26
NthDegreemaybe04:26
NthDegreei have an idea04:26
Telroth|School( Darkkish, i was asking because i know flash would freeze ion konq if i was using artsdsp with artsd disabled)04:26
NthDegreeuse K3B to do it (if it will let you)04:27
Darkkishit isn't freezing in konq04:27
NthDegreeit may do things another way04:27
AWOSDevK3B?04:27
Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev, cd burning software04:27
Darkkishits not apearing at all but konq still loads the page, the flash section just isn't showing04:27
Darkkishit locks up firefox though04:27
AWOSDevWhy won't it just noerror like I told it to?04:27
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, try reinstalling it04:27
NthDegreeK3B comes with Kubuntu04:27
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree --reinstall04:27
Darkkishi did that04:27
Telroth|Schoolok04:27
AWOSDevI thought K3B was a music CD tool, not data.04:27
Telroth|Schoolhrm04:27
Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev, k3b burns data/music to cd/dvds04:28
Darkkishhmm04:28
Darkkishnow on my page04:28
Telroth|Schoolit is one of *the* best burning utilities04:28
Darkkishit says flash still isn't installed04:28
timi!scanner04:28
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners04:28
AWOSDevWell, um, dd got 16 more records (and it only took ~200 seconds)04:28
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, what version of flash is the one on your page?04:28
NthDegreeDarkkish: grab it of the adobe site04:28
AWOSDevK3B it is!04:28
Telroth|Schoolremember linux only has flash 704:28
Telroth|Schoolflash 8 and flash 9 files don't work04:29
DarkkishTelroth|School, i think it might be 9 -_-04:29
NthDegreethey'll get around to fixing that04:29
Darkkishgaj;lrkgja;rlkj :(04:29
Darkkishget around too it04:29
Darkkishkinda like google getting around to moving thier stuff out of beta04:29
AWOSDevLOL why doesn't Google ever unbeta anything anyway?04:30
NthDegreethen they aren't liable04:30
AWOSDevHa that's almost funny.04:30
NthDegreethey need not give tech support for anything marked BETA either04:30
AWOSDevK3b has detected your SONY DRU-710A and has set the burning speed to 48x automatically.04:30
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AWOSDevCOOOOOOOL!  It actually knows what it's doing!  That's a first with my CD-R and Linux experience.04:31
AWOSDevNthDegree, you mean XP?04:31
NthDegreeno04:31
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NthDegreeXD :p04:31
DarkkishXD = Haha04:31
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Darkkishlike... >.<04:31
Darkkishbut with a smiley04:31
AWOSDevOh, I see it's kind of like a smiley04:31
Telroth|SchoolNthDegree, they will? because i'd think they'd have upgrade linux to 8 after windows, not upgrade windows to 904:31
Telroth|Schoolbrb04:32
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Darkkishi don't care what people say04:32
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Darkkishthe internet runs better in XP04:32
Darkkish-_-04:32
AWOSDevDo I want 'normal copy' or 'clone copy'?04:33
NthDegreeZOMG how can you say that04:33
AWOSDevBetter, what's the difference?04:33
DaveQBgood Q AWOSDev04:33
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NthDegreeAWOSDev to do a normal copy, but from CD to Image File04:33
DaveQBi have always wondered this04:33
NthDegreeDaveQB: I think Clone Copy is like CloneCD, for doing stuff that needs a near-exact copy04:34
DarkkishAWOSDev, it works right04:34
AWOSDevUh, where's the 'CD to Image File' button?04:34
NthDegree1 sec04:34
AWOSDevnvm04:34
DarkkishAWOSDev, firefox works better in MS than linux, it doesn't lag because of transperency04:34
DaveQBNthDegree so normal copy is not iso ?04:34
AWOSDevI found it04:34
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DaveQBI have notice a 'normal copy' of an audio CD extracts the tracks rather then make an iso04:35
AWOSDevDarkkish, I was asking the difference between normal and clone, not MS and Linux04:35
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Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev,04:35
Telroth|Schoolnormal copy is like copy & paste04:35
Darkkisher04:35
Telroth|Schoolclone copy does a bit-for-bit copy of the disk04:35
Darkkishthat was ment for NthDegree04:35
NthDegreeDaveQB: both modes are iso, but Clone Copy performs an "exact" copy, with massive ECC or anything04:35
Telroth|Schoolpreserving boot loaders and such04:35
DaveQBhmmmmm04:35
Telroth|Schoolwhich is required for linux live-cds and such04:35
NthDegreeDarkkish: uh you're using firefox?04:35
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DaveQBTelroth|School thats somewhat how i thought04:36
NthDegreeDarkkish:  using firefox in KDE is stupid, when konqueror works much better in KDE04:36
AWOSDevUgh *every* time I run Firefox I have to restart to get all the memory and handles back04:36
AWOSDevYuck!04:36
Darkkish-_-04:36
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Darkkishwierd04:36
AWOSDevNow I Konquer the Internet :)04:36
Darkkishii'll try konq for a while04:36
Telroth|SchoolNthDegree, not true. Firefox has much better support of standards than konq04:36
NthDegreeDarkkish: and go on some crack sites that try to exploit your PC too04:37
AWOSDevI only use Firefox for Flash pages, and I hate Flash so...04:37
Telroth|Schoolif i need to use gmail i have to load up firefox04:37
DarkkishNthDegree, thats what noscript is for04:37
NthDegreethen you'll see why it's better on linux04:37
timidoes anyone know how to get a hp printer/scanner to work04:37
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NthDegreeDarkkish: noscript doesn't protect you from everything04:37
Telroth|Schooltimi, have you tried all the drivers?04:37
AWOSDevtimi, uh, the HP Linux Imaging and Printing System?04:37
timitelroth04:37
timiyeah i have the printer working04:37
Telroth|Schoolok04:37
DarkkishNthDegree, i'm 100% spyware and virus free, on both of my OS04:37
Telroth|Schooljust need scannernow?04:37
Telroth|School* scanner04:38
timiand for the scanner i need to get hpoj04:38
timiwhich i got from adept04:38
DaveQBare there any scanner/printer/copy all-in-ones that work in Linux ?04:38
NthDegreeDarkkish: that is impossible considering MS recently put spyware in XP04:38
timinow i dont know how to open hpoj or w/e04:38
Darkkishit doesn't have spyware from other companies -_-04:38
NthDegreeDarkkish: alias:  Genuine Advantage Notification04:38
AWOSDevNthDegree, no way!  I didn't hear about that.04:38
Darkkishyeah yeah yeah04:38
NthDegreeread up on it04:38
Darkkishi have04:38
Darkkishits stupid i agree04:38
AWOSDevNever heard of it.04:39
NthDegreeit contacts MS every time you go on control panel or tries to04:39
timifor some resaon the descripitns in adept keep changine04:39
AWOSDevI use Windows XP on only one computer, my laptop, and only then it's literally once or twice a month, to play a Windows game.04:39
NthDegreeAWOSDev: if you have a pirated XP with that on it gives a stupid prompt every 15 minutes and does other things04:39
Darkkishwow konq works 10000000000000 times better than FF in this04:39
Darkkishhmm04:39
Darkkishhow well does FF work on gnome?04:39
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NeoSaki|Purgatorlater guys, work calls04:39
AWOSDevDarkkish, don't even ask.04:39
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, same as in kde04:40
NthDegreeDarkkish: it works a little better but not as well as Konq04:40
AWOSDevBye NeoSaki!04:40
Darkkishboring04:40
Darkkishi like FF in windows04:40
NthDegreeDarkkish: ephiphany is good in GNOME04:40
Darkkishit = the best browser04:40
timiAWOSdev wht is the hp thing your talking about04:40
AWOSDevDarkkish, I could tell you stories about Gnome that you wouldn't believe.04:40
AWOSDevtimi,04:40
Darkkishmostly because of its customizability04:40
AWOSDev!hplip04:40
ubotuhplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB04:40
Darkkishlike what AWOSDev04:40
NthDegreeDarkkish: I disagree there since it has more vulnerabilities than other browsers in Windows04:40
timiawas dev i have that'04:40
AWOSDevDarkkish, even on my 1.6GHz / 512MB RAM it runs amazingly slow.04:40
Telroth|Schooltimi, you're already probably using hplips for printing04:40
timiis ther a gui for it04:41
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Darkkishin windows?04:41
NthDegreeDarkkish: Opera is the ONLY fully patched browser in Windows04:41
Darkkishmeh] 04:41
Darkkishi dislike opera04:41
NthDegreeHobbsee :-D04:41
Telroth|SchoolNthDegree, ff > opera04:41
Darkkishi like firefox04:41
Darkkishyou won't change my mind :(04:41
Telroth|School(in windows)04:41
AWOSDevtimi, have you tried using Kooka?04:41
timiyeah it doesnt even let me select a scanner04:41
AWOSDevOpera's not bad, but it's kind of slow (and sucky, IMHO)04:41
Darkkishsame04:41
Darkkishlike  i said04:41
AWOSDevDarkkish, no in GNOME04:41
Darkkishoh04:41
Darkkishwell04:41
Darkkishsame as in windows really04:42
Darkkishanyways i like the customizability of FF04:42
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timii have downloaded hplip, hpoj , hpoj xo panel- which is supposed to let u see the the lcd of the printer but i dont no how to pen it04:42
Darkkishyou can make it more secure and a nicer experience to use with all of the extensions04:42
DaveQBtimi do you have an all-in-one thats Linux compatible ?04:42
Darkkishlike adblock plus04:42
Darkkishand fliterset.g.updater04:42
timiDaveQB according to the wiki yes04:42
AWOSDevDarkkish, Windows FLIES compared to Gnome.04:42
DaveQBtimi  URL ?04:42
timii downloaded wht i needed from adept but  i dont know how to pen it04:42
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AWOSDevI stand by KDE.04:42
timi!scanner04:43
DaveQBtimi  kubuntu wiki ??04:43
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners04:43
DarkkishKDE is pretty fast04:43
Darkkishwow myspace sucks04:43
Telroth|Schoolkde flies04:43
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DaveQBtimi cheers04:43
Search4Lancerhow can I change my AIM info in Kopete? I can't find it anywhere04:43
Darkkishi would seriosuly laugh if myspace permanantly died right now04:43
Darkkishi like GAIM lol04:43
Telroth|Schoolkopete > gaim04:43
NthDegreeDarkkish: XFCE is very fast compared to GNOME or KDE but is less functional04:43
Darkkishmeh04:43
timiyeah i used that wiki DaveQB but i dont know how to open wht i just downloaded from apept04:43
Telroth|Schooli hate gtk apps04:43
Telroth|Schooli want to tear them all apart04:43
Darkkishlol04:43
NthDegreeTelroth|School: mainly cause they lag right?04:43
Telroth|Schoolrebuild them with qt04:44
AWOSDev* > GTK04:44
Telroth|Schoolyes04:44
Telroth|Schooland the look like crap04:44
Darkkishlol04:44
AWOSDevYes I agree04:44
Darkkishyeah but this doesn't look like crap04:44
Telroth|School*they04:44
NthDegreeGTK 2 has been flagged as bloated and slow04:44
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AWOSDev*oops, problem04:44
Telroth|Schoolkopete ftw04:44
NthDegreeand 1.2 looks worse than QT 204:44
Darkkishwhat multi-network client do you guys suggest04:44
Search4Lancerwell Telroth|School if you think kopete is so great, tell me how to see/change my AIM info04:44
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AWOSDevProblem while reading.  Retrying from sector 768.04:45
DaveQBkopete does have some short comings to Gaim, but intergrates well04:45
Telroth|SchoolSearch4Lancer, like profile?04:45
DaveQBand looks prettier :)04:45
NthDegreeSearch4Lancer: like Global Profie04:45
NthDegreeProfile*04:45
Search4Lanceryes..... but for AIM it's called info04:45
Telroth|SchoolDaveQB, gaim doesn't have a front-end to skype ;)04:45
timican someone help me open a program i just downloaded04:45
timifrom adept04:45
Telroth|SchoolSearch4Lancer, you have to edit that on aim i think04:45
DaveQBTelroth|School  do tell ......04:46
AWOSDevYou know, I've even gone over to plain #Ubuntu and converted a couple of people to Kubuntu.  :)04:46
DaveQBtimi  what was it ?04:46
AWOSDevI love KDE.04:46
Telroth|Schooltimi, which <programname>04:46
DaveQBtimi  not in Kmenu ?04:46
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timihpoj-xojpanel04:46
DaveQBAWOSDev  really ?? lol04:46
Telroth|Schoolthat doesn't work when typed in command line?04:46
AWOSDevYep04:46
DaveQBtimi  tried hpoj<TAB> ?04:46
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AWOSDevHe wanted panel transparency and GNOME didn't offer that.04:46
Darkkishgaim looks prettier than kopete IMO and its easier to use04:46
Search4Lancerif Kopete wasn't so damn stupid as to not let me have myself on my contact list, I could actually see if I even have any info...04:46
DaveQBAWOSDev  love ya work ;)04:47
timiDaveQB04:47
Telroth|SchoolSearch4Lancer, why do you need to be on your own contact list?04:47
AWOSDev:)04:47
timiwhat is hpoj<Tab>04:47
Telroth|Schooli can see this particular instance04:47
timiis that for konsole?04:47
Telroth|Schoolbut overall it's not effective04:47
Telroth|Schooltimi, yes04:47
NthDegreeAWOSDev: are you a KDE developer by any chance?04:47
Telroth|Schoolbut <TAB> is the tab key04:47
AWOSDevNot even close.04:47
DaveQBwhat they said ^ :)04:47
DaveQBtimi04:47
timisyntax erra is wht it said04:48
Telroth|SchoolDarkkish, gaim looks like crap, because it's gtk04:48
NthDegreeGNOME Developer telling the truth? XD04:48
Telroth|Schoolit does have a few extra features04:48
AWOSDevI have made, uh, one Linux app, and it segfaulted.04:48
AWOSDevNthDegree, LOL!04:48
NthDegreedd04:48
NthDegree?04:48
Search4LancerTelroth|School, why not? I've had myself on my contact list for years.... it's just convenient. Anyway, I just went to AIM.com, and apparently they have a version for Linux? anyone try that before, know how it is?04:48
NthDegreebecause dd segfaults after it does it's job it's funny :)04:48
timi hpoj<Tab>04:48
timibash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'04:48
Telroth|SchoolSearch4Lancer, i haven't tried it, but i hate individual clients04:48
DaveQBtimi  you hit the TAB key ?04:48
DaveQBtimi  not enter04:48
AWOSDevNthDegree, it was a program to read IDE information from the hard drive.  I still don't know why I can't inb.04:49
NthDegreeSearch4Lancer: unless you are crazy and want to make linux insecure04:49
Telroth|SchoolSearch4Lancer, i'd end up with about 6 im clients, each loaded with adware which bogs down my system and eats my memory04:49
NthDegreeSearch4Lancer: AIM/MSN/Yahoo all contain adware04:49
timiDave a whole bunch of stuff came up04:49
DaveQBanyone used the Yahoo client ?04:49
DaveQBtimi  anything like what your after ?04:49
Darkkishlol i can't install the yahoo client on my windows computer04:50
Darkkisher04:50
DarkkishOS04:50
Darkkishit looks like it works04:50
Darkkishbut the moment you right click it shuts off with no warning04:50
Darkkishonly does it on this comp04:50
Darkkishnot on others04:50
timino04:50
DaveQByahoo alient on Linux i mean04:50
timii wonder why adpet just doesnt bput things in menu04:50
AWOSDevtimi, Have you tried 'whereis hpoj-xojpanel'?04:50
DaveQBtimi dpkg -L <packagename>04:50
timino letme try athat04:50
AWOSDevFatal error reading sector 810.04:51
DaveQBtimi  that will list all its files, look for files in a bin file or sbin even04:51
timiit listed no files04:51
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timii just got hpoj-xojpanel:04:51
DaveQBtimi wrong package name then04:51
AWOSDevtimi, actually, try sudo dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin04:51
DaveQBAWOSDev  i was working up to that ;)04:51
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AWOSDevYeah but you didn't 'sudo'04:52
DaveQBI think timi  will have trouble with the packagename04:52
DaveQBoh yeah04:52
AWOSDevNo, the package name really is 'hpoj-xojpanel'04:52
DaveQBi use root, i forgot to add that04:52
DaveQBoh ok04:52
AWOSDevI just apt-cached search'ed for it04:52
AWOSDevtimi: sudo dpkg -L hpoj-xojpanel | grep bin04:52
DaveQBoh okee, i was loggin into to home to try myself actually04:52
AWOSDevRetrying from Sector 832.04:53
AWOSDevYou know, I think this disc is dunzo.04:53
timiok its in usr/bin/xojpanel04:53
Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev, how big is it?04:53
timii can just put that into run no?04:53
DaveQBtimi  so run xojpanel04:53
AWOSDevUh, ~623MB?04:53
Telroth|Schooltimi, type "xojpanel"04:53
DaveQBor even smply xojp<TAB>04:54
DaveQBthat should complete it for you04:54
AWOSDevNo no no no more tabs!04:54
DaveQBlol04:54
Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev, bah, that's not worth the effort :P04:54
Telroth|School<TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB>04:54
DaveQBI tab everything04:54
Telroth|School<TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB>04:54
Telroth|School:P04:54
=== Telroth|School <3 tab
AWOSDevI type everything by hand04:54
AWOSDeveven IRC nicks04:54
Telroth|Schoolctrl+tab, alt+tab...04:54
timimeh i ran it but nothing happened04:54
Telroth|Schoolsee04:54
AWOSDevNow I *DO* use Alt+Tab04:55
DaveQBi am a bad speller :)04:55
Telroth|Schoolit's people like appolusionist that make me tab04:55
Telroth|Schoolor BluDog_Anchorite04:55
AWOSDev:P04:55
AWOSDevROFl04:55
timiran it in console i got all this failed to open device junk04:55
Telroth|Schoolor MaterMaravillae04:55
Telroth|SchoolnoaXess_kubuntu even04:55
AWOSDevtimi, it's still loading, wait a minute04:55
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Telroth|Schooltimi, use sudo04:55
AWOSDevIgnoring read error in sector 833.04:56
BluDog_Anchoriteuh, did someone need something ?04:56
Telroth|Schooloh04:56
Telroth|Schoolsorry BluDog_Anchorite04:56
DaveQBwell my lunch break is up.....04:56
AWOSDev:P04:56
DaveQBlol  I was waiting for a bunch of people to wake up04:56
timiX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:56
AWOSDevtimi, that's normal04:56
AWOSDevthat happens on my computer *all* the time04:56
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DaveQBi get that error all the time, i have no idea04:56
Erich-KHello04:56
AWOSDevI'm thinking it's almost *supposed* to do that04:56
DaveQBlol04:56
Telroth|SchoolBluDog_Anchorite, AWOSDev was saying he types iRC nicks in by hand, i was using you as a reason i use tab completion ;)04:56
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timitrue but norammly something opens04:57
DaveQBand if it doesnt AWOSDev  ? you'd be  woried ?04:57
timiailed to open device04:57
timiFailed to open device ""!04:57
AWOSDevYeah, I'd probably reconfigure X :P04:57
abattoirtimi, DaveQB, AWOSDev: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=94a045f7057cbba9b48514dbf396d626&topic=581;prev_next=next04:57
Erich-KWhen there is a txt file on my desktop, the icon for it is a preview of the text, even if i set an icon, it shows the example. Any way to turn that off?04:57
AWOSDevAre you calling us dummies?04:57
AWOSDev:)04:57
abattoirheh04:57
AWOSDevOh, Telroth|School, you were asking how big my disc is.  It's ~620MB04:58
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DaveQBErich-K Konqueror has a umm animate button that you can try, might effect the desktop04:58
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Telroth|SchoolErich-K, give me a moment04:58
timiabbatoir will that make a difference to whether or not the program runs04:58
Telroth|SchoolErich-K, i know you can disable it for all of a specific file type04:58
Telroth|Schoolis it just one file or all of a filetype ?04:58
Erich-Kall txt files04:59
Telroth|SchoolErich-K,04:59
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abattoirtimi: nope.. it has no effect at all, just an unnecessary output which misleads people04:59
Telroth|SchoolErich-K, kcontrol -> desktop -> behavior -> file icons tab -> uncheck "Text Files" -> apply -> close kcontrol05:00
AWOSDevTelroth|School, why did you want to know how big my disc is?05:00
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AWOSDevTelroth|School does it really make that much of a difference?05:00
Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev, i wanted to know if it was worth saving if it had a bad sector05:00
Telroth|School:P05:00
Erich-KTelroth|School: Ahh, that's it. Thanks alot :)05:00
timiabbatoir ic so it would help explain why my program isnt opening then would it05:00
AWOSDevError @ sector 83305:00
Telroth|Schoolyw Erich-K05:01
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AWOSDevTelroth|School, it's a commercial disc and I don't want to pay another $30-$50 for a new one.05:01
Telroth|Schooltimi, it wouldn't05:01
Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev, oh05:01
abattoirtimi: no as i said it has nothing to do with your program not opening05:01
abattoirtimi: which program?05:01
AWOSDevDr_Willis!  The dd master!05:01
Telroth|SchoolAWOSDev, i thought you were talking about a harddrive05:01
Dr_WillisMoo05:01
timihpoj-xojpanel05:02
Telroth|Schoolgnight all05:02
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AWOSDevDr_Willis, I have a bad CD and was wondering if dd can recover it.05:03
abattoirtimi: what command did you use to open it? are there any other messages output?05:04
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AWOSDevK3b reports 'unrecoverable' errors for sectors 810,833,858, and it keeps counting05:04
AWOSDevit's a commercial CD (for SimCity 4 Deluxe)05:04
AWOSDevSo rather than paying $50 for a new one, is there *any* way to recover the data?05:04
timiabbattoir: i used xojpanel05:04
Dr_WillisAWOSDev,  you mean scratches on it?05:04
LeeJunFanAWOSDev: you might be able to get some files off it but parts of it will be lost forever.05:04
Dr_Willis$50?    you got ripped off.05:04
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AWOSDevYes, lots of scratches from what I believe is my Laptop's CD drive05:05
timiand besides the to error is says failed to opend device twice05:05
Dr_Willisgee.. how about getting a torrent of it :P and finding a no-cd crack05:05
timithe second time i think its failed to open device!!05:05
LeeJunFanI read on /. that using hair gel to "polish" the scratches might work.05:05
AWOSDevNo, I said it would be $50 *NOW*05:05
TonrenGuys, every time I install kubuntu-desktop it clobbers GNOME.  I can't login anymore and I have to drop into TTY1 to uninstall kubuntu-desktop to be able to login again05:05
Dr_Willisand an even bigger rip off. :P05:05
AWOSDevIt was $35 on sale when I got it for Xmas...05:05
abattoireven Brasso works :)05:05
Telroth|SleepTonren, try sudo apt-get install gnome kubuntu-desktop05:05
jpiccoloi run kubuntu and its fine05:06
jpiccolothough i dont have gnome installed05:06
AWOSDevHair gel?!05:06
LeeJunFanAWOSDev: yeah.05:06
TonrenTelroth|Sleep: I don't get it... don't I already have GNOME, or is it a metapackage?05:06
AWOSDevWell I guess the disc is already dead, it won't hurt it05:06
LeeJunFanAWOSDev: it's clear and has the right viscosity to stay where you put it.05:06
intelikeyTonren try not installing kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu-desktop.   try kde insted05:06
Telroth|SleepTonren, that tells apt-get to resolve packages so both can be installed at once05:06
AWOSDevAm I IIRCing that if you like, move or tilt a laptop while it's reading the disc it could scratch it?05:06
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Dr_WillisAWOSDev,  or better.. go buy one of those cd polisher machines.05:07
AWOSDevOops, error at 861.05:07
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Darkkishthat was odd05:07
Darkkishanyways as i was saying05:07
Dr_WillisAWOSDev,  shouldent.. the laptop drive has little 'detents' that hold the cd in05:07
Telroth|SleepAWOSDev, what disk is it?05:07
Darkkishmy dads friend jsut called05:07
AWOSDevSimCity 4 Deluxe05:08
Darkkishand apernently got a shitload of spyware on his windows system05:08
Darkkishi mean TONS05:08
LeeJunFanhair-gel for scratched CD's/DVD's:       http://www.om3ga.co.uk/2006/07/27/scratched-cds-no-problem/05:08
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timidoes anybody in here use and hp printer/scanner and want to tell me how they got  it or any of the hp tools from adept to open/work05:08
Telroth|SleepAWOSDev, as long as you legitmately bought the CD, i'll suggest bittorrent05:08
AWOSDevI use an HP printer but not scanner05:08
Dr_Willishttp://thepiratebay.org/tor/3436100/Simcity_4_Deluxe05:08
Dr_Willis:)05:08
Telroth|Sleep:)05:08
actinicsudo nvidia-xconfig or sudo nvidia-glx-config enable <--- which one to enable nvidia driver?05:08
AWOSDevI'd kind of like to stear clear of the, um, undesireables05:09
Dr_Willisand i always reccomend the no-cd cracks05:09
Telroth|Sleepeither, though i've tested first05:09
Telroth|SleepAWOSDev, you own a copy, i don't really count it as undesireable ;)05:09
Tonrenintelikey: So instead of aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, just aptitude install kde?05:09
intelikeytimi hps 750 here.   had to run kde as root to set it up tho.05:09
Telroth|SleepTonren, yes05:09
intelikeyTonren yes05:09
TonrenAlso, does anyone know how to get the Ubuntu bootup/shutdown artwork back after installing/uninstalling kubuntu-desktop?05:09
timierr i c05:10
timiintelikey do you use hplip or anything hpoj05:10
timiany kind of gui for the printer scanner05:10
intelikeyhpoj  yes05:10
Dr_Willisdare i point out that amazon.com has simcity4 deluze for  $2005:10
timiintelikey how do you open hpoj05:10
timibecause for some reason i cant open hpoj i have it downloaded and everything it jsut does seem to open/work05:11
intelikeysystem > printing > hps-75005:11
AWOSDevThat's funny05:11
earthsoundwhat's the command to run to refresh the k menu after installing a package?05:11
AWOSDevLeejunFan, that link is very funny05:11
AWOSDev"I rubbed it in, and it sort of worked. The XBox loaded the CD, and played it, but it was really crackly and noisy. So it kind of worked, but Caleb sounded pissed off and sort of like a monster."05:12
timiintelikey: system settings?05:12
intelikeyno system   menu05:12
AWOSDevearthsound, there is no command to refresh like Windows.  It automatically refreshes.  If it isn't in there, you need to add it yourself.05:12
timiintelikey its not in the system menu05:12
earthsoundAWOSDev: no, I'm sure there is a command to do it, I just forgot what it was :|05:13
LeeJunFanearthsound: actually there is - kbuildsycoca05:13
timicould that be my problem05:13
intelikeyi'd have to go to the shop to look at that, timi but i'm pretty sure that's where it is on that box.05:13
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earthsoundLeeJunFan: thanks. you'd think that after using it so much that I'd know it by now05:13
intelikeytimi could be.05:13
omarHow everybody05:14
omarhello05:14
omarguys can I ask you a quest?05:14
AWOSDevYeah, go ahead.05:14
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intelikeytimi  sudo update-menu*   and see if you can find it.05:14
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omarlook, I have a P4 128 RAM, and my openoffice is too slow05:14
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omarreally05:14
Kiongku_hey anyone knows how to play .dat video files?05:15
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AWOSDevOmar, can I ask you a Q?05:15
omarjust use open with05:15
omarin the menu05:15
omaryes sure05:15
AWOSDevOmar, what is a P4 doing with only 128MB RAM?05:15
omarpentum05:15
omarpentium IV05:15
Kiongku_hmm05:15
AWOSDevGo upgrade immediately!  A P4 should have bare minimum 512MB.05:15
intelikeyAWOSDev why not ?05:15
timi!scanners05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scanners - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
AWOSDevYes Omar I know what a P4 is05:16
LeeJunFanomar: 128M of ram is pretty light to use with KDE and openoffice together.05:16
timi!scanner05:16
jmichaelxearlier on some P4 boxes came with only 128MB05:16
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners05:16
omarlook , Microsoft office, was pretty fast, I love Linux but my open office is very very slow05:16
intelikeyAWOSDev "A P4 should have bare minimum 512MB."   i call bs.05:16
AWOSDevI've never seen a *genuine* P4 with only 128MB.  Sure a Celeron maybe but not a genuine P4.05:16
Dr_WillisYou are the first person that ive seen say "microsoft office, and fast" together. :P05:16
LeeJunFanomar: sad to say openoffice is slower, that's all there is to it, and it's going to be slower than office, espcially at startup time.05:16
omarhe he05:17
omarI mean faster than openoffice now, pls what to do05:17
Dr_Willisi tend to use abiword for 99% of my wordprocessing needs05:17
actinicsudo nvidia-xconfig or sudo nvidia-glx-config enable <--- which one to enable nvidia driver?05:17
AWOSDevYou're wasting the investment in a P4 by only having 128MB, intelikey05:17
earthsoundif you have little RAM, look at other tools besides oo05:17
AWOSDevJust go grab a Celeron or P2 even05:17
Dr_Willisthere was that  precache or somthing  people were messing with  a year or 2 ago.. :P05:17
omarlook that's why I started talking about my PC, I think that's the problem05:17
jmichaelxi was probably wrong about that... a lot of P4s shipped with 256MB, not 12805:18
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LeeJunFanDr_Willis: yeah, but you have to have enough ram to precache it :)05:18
AWOSDevTo be fully honest I use VI for 99% of my word processing needs :)05:18
Dr_WillisLeeJunFan,  this did somthing with the libs.. not the ram05:18
Kiongku_just add ram ...05:18
Dr_WillisLeeJunFan,  i forget what it was called..  but it was supposed to help.05:18
LeeJunFanDr_Willis: ah, you mean prelinking05:18
omarlook i wanna know if I can do somthing05:18
Dr_Willisthats it. :P05:18
earthsoundomar: have you tried KWord?05:18
Dr_Willisand i alwo heard it can break things. :P05:18
omarto make my oppenoffice faster05:18
LeeJunFanDr_Willis: yeah, I prelinked a bunch of stuff just today.05:19
AWOSDevOmar, the only thing you can do is buy more RMA.05:19
AWOSDev*RAM05:19
earthsoundomar: oo is a memory hog; 128MB is not enough to please it05:19
jmichaelxstaples here in town had 256MB SDRAM sticks on sale recently for $29 (after $10 mail-in)05:19
omarok , thank you very much05:19
AWOSDevOooooooohhh was that PC133?05:19
jmichaelx100/13305:19
jmichaelxyup05:19
omarI heard about a memory trick for it05:19
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AWOSDevStaples FTW!05:19
earthsoundomar: which components of Open Office do you use most?05:20
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omarBUt I am in Peru, you know shipping is gonna be like 30 bucks more05:20
omarcalc05:20
AWOSDevI have ~4 computers that need 100 or 133 memory.  I need all in all about 2-3GB for all of them together.05:20
Erich-KHow can i change the shortcut text color?05:20
jpiccoloanyone here running Cedega?05:21
intelikeyAWOSDev i know oo is a ram hog  but really,  a p4 or k8 or what ever can use 128m better than a p-duce   what's your deal with ram anyway.  i run kde on ubuntu  in a box with a p1 100mhz and 64m ram with no swap.     give me a break!  blah should have minimun of....    sheeze05:21
Dr_Willisjpiccolo,  i do at times.05:21
jmichaelxAWOSDev: if you have a staples near you, you should ask them. they had 128MB sticks for $19 (after rebate)05:21
jpiccoloDr_Willis, what kernel are you running, and video card?05:22
omarCalc and presentation, earthsound05:22
Dr_Willisjpiccolo,  the one thats with ubuntu dapper.. and a nvidia 680005:22
jmichaelxi do tend to agree with intelikey05:22
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jpiccoloDr_Willis, 2.6.15-26-386 ?05:22
earthsoundomar: have you tried Kspread and KPresenter?05:23
Dr_WillisLinux amd64 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC05:23
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omarno yet, I am gonna try,05:23
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omarthenk you, I will let you know05:24
omarare they here in the List of kubuntu05:24
AWOSDevA P1/100 with 64M of RAM?  I have that exact machine, I can get Kubuntu on it?!05:24
Erich-KHow can i change the shortcut text color?05:24
jpiccolook kinda the same, i have an nvidia card too, glxgears shows lots of frames, but Cedega OpenGL test fails05:24
AWOSDevCool I'll have to try that sometime.05:24
earthsoundpart of KOffice...which has a much smaller memory footprint than open office05:25
Dr_Willisjpiccolo,  you did install the nvidia drivers?05:25
intelikeyAWOSDev no not kubuntu  but ubuntu server and add kde05:25
timiif something is a qt program05:25
jpiccoloyeah05:25
jmichaelxAWOSDev: something like slax popcorn would run on it05:25
timithen do i need qt designeer installed as well?05:25
abattoirtimi: no05:25
abattoirtimi: its a tool for developers05:26
abattoirtimi: you dont need it unless you plan to write qt stuff...05:26
timiok wht do i need to make a qt program run?05:26
Dr_Willisslax is handy05:26
abattoirtimi: you already have all the stuff05:26
abattoirtimi: kde is a qt-based distro...05:26
jpiccoloGL_RENDERER   = GeForce 7900 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!05:26
intelikeyjmichaelx i haven't found a distro yet i could not run on that p1  but you do have to trim some of the fat off of most of them05:26
timiok05:26
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jmichaelxintelikey: i am with you on that.... and i have a real affinity for those old boxes, too :-D05:27
intelikey:)05:27
pibarnasCould anyone install kubuntu on a amd64, samsung sata hdd?05:27
jpiccoloNVIDIA 87.62 - is that the latest?05:28
Dr_Willispibarnas,  you should be able to.. the sata chipset on the mb may be an issue if having problems05:28
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pibarnasI think it's my case...05:29
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jmichaelxi am using damn small linux-not right now... the latest RC, and i really like it. will be nice for older machines, especially a few more apps are added to the dsl-n repo05:29
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intelikeyjmichaelx yeah dsl is a good starter pack  i generally end up turning it into debian tho05:30
jmichaelxlol05:30
jmichaelxi love loading into ram. so awesome05:31
intelikeydsl on a mini-cdrom in the shirt pocket   :)05:32
jmichaelxdefinitely05:32
intelikeynever without linux05:32
jmichaelxi like DSL on usb sticks , too... although i usually use DSL on machines that do not have USB, so i stcik with the mini cd05:33
intelikeyperms got changed on my base dirs...   if that rascal has been here again and didn't leave me a notice....    dad blamed hackers...05:35
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intelikeyhmmm looks like it.   changed my timezone too05:37
timiintelikey under add remove program the printer option was ther and said it was installed but its not on the menu05:37
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timihow do i get it on the menu05:37
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intelikeytimi i don't know i never had that issue.   maybe some one else could help you there.05:38
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Creedencehey everyone05:39
NthDegreeCreedence: :)05:40
Creedencesup?05:40
NthDegreenm, just trying to get encryption sorted out05:40
Creedenceahh05:40
NthDegreeit's really annoying when you have to sort out two distro releases05:41
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CreedenceI gotta say. I am just coming over for a visit. I am new to Kubuntu. This has to be my 10th install over the past year but it's looking like I finally got it sorted out :)05:41
CreedenceI like to come here and talk it up. I think I am converted :)05:41
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NthDegreelol repeat after me "MS == Sinning" xD05:42
AWOSDevWell the hair gel, uh, it made error come later...05:42
CreedenceNth, hahaha05:42
AWOSDevBut still very much error.05:42
AWOSDevI think I will download it after all.05:42
CreedenceI work all day with XP and it's getting me more and more disinterested05:42
Creedencemy geek-o-meter was running way down :P05:42
NthDegreei got fed up with phoning india every few weeks to get activation codes05:43
AWOSDevI got fed up with phoning India period.05:43
AWOSDev:)05:43
CreedenceI don't even have to bother with that. I have MSDN... but I am fed up. I also like the idea of GPL and the ethics of the Open Source community05:44
AWOSDevI had MSDN05:44
CreedenceAWOSDev..., don't buy a dell then ...05:44
AWOSDevbut didn't want to pay almost $10K to renew it :O05:44
CreedenceI am lucky?05:44
CreedenceI don't pay, the company does05:44
AWOSDevYeah, it's nearly $10K now05:45
AWOSDevI got a one year off of eBay for $13.00 though :)05:45
Creedencewow that's a lot05:45
NthDegreeCreedence: GPL software is good for the programmer and good for the community :-)05:45
AWOSDevOkay guys, can you help me with a KDE-related problem?05:46
NthDegreesure05:46
Creedenceteehee05:46
intelikey"good for the programmer"  how ?   it doesn't pay05:46
CreedenceI can try :)05:46
AWOSDevI'm trying to download the thingy for the disc that's scratched05:46
AWOSDevit's a torrent05:46
NthDegreeAWOSDev: KTorrent05:46
AWOSDevBut when it tries to open the file it comes up KTorrent caught SIGABRT (signal 6)05:46
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Creedencecan't miss with Ktorrnet, that was stupid easy05:46
NthDegreeuh that's b0rked05:46
omarhave somebody knows the line to download and install unrar05:46
Creedencesorry05:47
abattoir!info unrar05:47
CreedenceI meant to set up, that could have been read wrong :P05:47
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB05:47
AWOSDevomar, sudo apt-get install unrar05:47
NthDegreeomar, sudo apt-get install unrar05:47
abattoiromar: its in multiverse, so you need to enable that first05:47
abattoir!multiverse05:47
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:47
omarunable?05:47
AWOSDevMmm05:47
abattoiromar: ^^^if you havent enabled it already05:47
AWOSDev!easysource05:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:47
intelikey!repos05:48
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:48
abattoiromar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu specifically05:48
=== Hawkwind Enables the world
AWOSDevCreedence, can you help me with the crashing part?05:48
CreedenceI beleive you can also use automatix to install archivers no?05:48
HawkwindIckkkkkk @ automatrix05:48
AWOSDevOr can you recommend another torrent thingy?05:48
abattoirHawkwind: maybe its time to change ubotu's response to !repos/multiverse etc. ?05:48
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=== AWOSDev has never used torrent before and doesn't even know what that is
abattoirHawkwind: and point it to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:48
intelikeyHawkwind not me.  give me the universe... but not the world.05:48
CreedenceAWOSDev, you can try Azureus... java based so you need java jre but it works nice too05:49
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Hawkwindabattoir: Paste me exactly what you want for the fact in the other channel and I'll change it05:49
IceKnightDoes anyone know how to make Konversation not launch at login?05:49
AWOSDevE: Couldn't find package jre05:49
AWOSDevE: Couldn't find package java05:50
Hawkwind!java05:50
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:50
intelikeyIceKnight services05:50
HawkwindAWOSDev: ^^^^^^^^05:50
NthDegreeAWOSDev: not on apt-get05:50
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NthDegreeAWOSDev: GO ON SUN WEBSITE05:50
NthDegreeAWOSDev: java.com05:50
HawkwindAWOSDev: Or follow the info the bot gave you05:50
HawkwindMuch easier than going to suns site05:50
AWOSDevI CTRL+Cd apt-get why?05:50
NthDegreeHawkwind: uh that's not up to date with sun's site05:50
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Healotif you already downloaded the jdk/jre from Sun's website05:50
intelikeyIceKnight open kconfig  services05:50
AWOSDevwhat's wrong with apt-get?05:51
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AWOSDevBlehh05:51
NthDegreeAWOSDev: the apt version is older than getting it off the sun site :)05:51
Healotit's better to just convert the binary installer in a debian/ubuntu package using make-jpkg (java-package)05:51
HawkwindNthDegree: If you follow that info the bot gives it works perfectly05:51
AWOSDevgoing on Ubuntu's Web site leaves a bad taste in my mouth05:51
AWOSDevit takes fo05:51
AWOSDevr05:51
AWOSDevever05:52
AWOSDevto05:52
AWOSDevload05:52
NthDegreeHawkwind: yes on i386 maybe05:52
AWOSDevI have i386!05:52
HawkwindNthDegree: He's on i38605:52
HawkwindHence why he should use it05:52
NthDegreeHawkwind: and he'd be using old stuff05:52
HawkwindNthDegree: Ummm no05:52
NthDegreeuh yeah05:53
HawkwindNthDegree: java is in the repos05:53
intelikeyoh that05:53
NthDegreei know it is05:53
AWOSDevSo can I get it from apt-get or not?!05:53
NthDegreebut it's older than the one on  the website05:53
HawkwindAWOSDev: Yes05:53
NthDegreeotherwise there'd be good x86_64 support in the repos too05:53
HawkwindNthDegree: So, it's best to stick with the versions that are in the repos for your version of the OS05:53
NthDegreewhich there isn't05:53
NthDegreeHawkwind: don't be stupid, Sun Java can't be patched by the distro vendor05:54
NthDegreeHawkwind: so therefore only way to be secure is the latest version off their site05:54
intelikeycan't be running old stuff, mussnt mussnt.   if it's older than two days you have to update. and don't argue about it.   that's the rules.05:54
HawkwindNthDegree: Having the latest isn't always the best FYI05:54
NthDegreein the FOSS world that is true05:54
intelikeythat's the rules....05:55
HawkwindNthDegree: Majority of everyone here is using the version packaged by Ubuntu, nothing wrong with it at all05:55
Creedencehey... how do u get a channel list in Konversation05:55
AWOSDevFOSS?05:55
NthDegree /channellist05:55
NthDegreeFree Open Source Software05:55
intelikey/list    but don't....05:56
IceKnightintelikey: where is kconfig? Am I looking for an application or a text file?05:56
AWOSDevNah, every now and again I use Red Hat 5 and fvwm95 on an old Pentium II every now and again, I like old stuff05:56
intelikeyapp05:56
HawkwindCreedence: Or you can search for a specific channel by doing: /msg chanserv list *search-term*05:56
AWOSDevNetscape 3.04 and everything :)05:56
Jobberwackyisn't old stuff insecure?05:57
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HawkwindJobberwacky: Not always, no05:57
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AWOSDevNow where do I get azureur or whatever?05:57
HawkwindJobberwacky: If it was, then the entire would be insecure since every package isn't updated everyday05:57
intelikeyIceKnight maybe it's called settings  or something in the menu  but kcontrol    is the name of the executable  you can alt+f2 kcontrol05:58
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intelikeyIceKnight id  i say kconfig   sorry my bad.05:58
AWOSDevCreedence, where do you get Azureus?05:58
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Creedencei beleive i got it with apt-get05:58
IceKnightintelikey thanks, I think I found it05:58
CreedenceI had to add some repositories to the sources.list05:59
omarthank you so much for the UNRAR installer05:59
AWOSDevI have all of the repos from easysource in there05:59
omarI really appreciate it05:59
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AWOSDevyw omar05:59
Creedenceso then sudo apt-get install azureus05:59
Dr_Willis!azureus05:59
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo05:59
_ianhow do i make linux visible to my windows compter?05:59
poningru_ian: what do you mean visible?06:00
Dr_Willis_ian,  install/confgure samba06:00
intelikeysamba06:00
Creedence_ian, in what way?06:00
Hawkwind!repos06:00
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:00
CreedenceshareS?06:00
Dr_Willis!samba06:00
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:00
_iani can see my windows pc but my windows pc cant see this linux06:00
intelikeysamba06:00
Dr_Willisalwo be sure to add a samba password for the linux users with 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME'06:00
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royalok how do I install Wine without internet connection?06:01
CreedenceI think I am off to hit the hay.06:01
Creedencehave a good night everyone06:01
AWOSDevAh, Samba.  I'm running this computer right here as an NT4 Domain Controller.  No more outrageous MS license fees!  Yay FOSS!06:01
AWOSDevG'night Creedence.06:01
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Creedencenight06:01
_ianit says i need root access...... i cant edit anything06:01
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intelikey!sudo06:01
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:01
AWOSDev_ian, sudo06:02
arunkalehello people06:02
romahi all06:02
AWOSDevsudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf or whatever06:02
intelikeynano06:02
jpiccoloi cant get k3b to write to a dvd-rw06:02
AWOSDevThis happened once before, so do be offended.  jpiccolo, are you using a DVD writer?06:03
AWOSDevand don't forget about06:03
jpiccolohaha yeah not that dumb06:03
AWOSDev!dvd+rw-tools06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvd+rw-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
AWOSDevhmm....I thought that's what it was called06:03
arunkalehi roma06:03
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intelikey!info dvd+rw-tools06:04
ubotuPackage dvdrw-tools does not exist in any distro I know06:04
jpiccoloin the repos06:04
intelikeythe bot is filtering '+'06:04
AWOSDevahhhhh that was SuSE06:04
AWOSDevsorry06:04
earthsound!info "dvd+rw-tools"06:04
ubotuPackage dvdrw-tools does not exist in any distro I know06:04
trappistI accidentally removed all my fonts in kcontrol.  all of em.  all new apps show up with squares instead of letters.  is it possible to restore them?06:04
jpiccoloi have that package installed06:04
intelikey!info dvd\+rw-tools06:05
ubotuPackage dvdrw-tools does not exist in any distro I know06:05
Dr_Willistrappist,  as a user you removed them?06:05
AWOSDevNo, no it is dvd+rw-tools06:05
trappistDr_Willis: alas, no06:05
Dr_Willistrappist,  ICK!06:05
trappistDr_Willis: that's what I *thought* I was doing06:05
arunkalehow do i set firefox to be my default browser? i went to edit > preferences, and asked it to check if it was my default browser, and nothing happens06:05
AWOSDev!info dvd++rw-tools06:05
intelikeyAWOSDev i know that.  the bot is filtering out the +06:05
ubotuPackage dvdrw-tools does not exist in any distro I know06:05
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jpiccolodvd+rw-tools makes it possible to burn DVD images06:05
jpiccoloinstalled06:05
AWOSDevGrr06:05
Dr_Willistrappist,  heh - use the console and fire up appitude and perhasp reinstall teh packages06:06
jpiccoloi am trying to burn a iso to a dvdrw could that be a problem06:06
trappistDr_Willis: the files are still there, but they're not in fonts:/, whatever that is06:06
Dr_Willisbut heck - those fonts could of come from several dozen different packages.06:06
Dr_Willistrappist,  Hmm.. try  making a new user.. see if it works for them?06:06
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Dr_Willistrappist,  thers the deforma commands that rescan the fonts dirs06:06
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halfbloodprinceman, i've forgotten my irc password06:07
Dr_WillisI saw it mentioned in the ubuntu hacks book. :P never used it however.06:07
trappistDr_Willis: I'm confident it won't.  I removed the system fonts, not the user fonts06:07
Dr_Willislet me check that book.. it had a command to force deforma to rescan the fonts06:07
trappistDr_Willis: that would be pretty awesome.06:07
intelikeyhehhe #perl   lol06:07
Dr_Willissudo dpkg-reconfigure defoma06:08
Dr_Willissudo defoma-reconfigure06:08
intelikeyupdate-fonts-*06:08
trappistDr_Willis: oh crap.  it seems the files themselves have gone awol.  but, I'll try that anyway, thanks.06:08
Dr_Willis'if your system has enede up in an unclean state  try.. ' the 2nd command i showed. :P06:08
Dr_Willistrappist,  ICK :P lol06:09
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AWOSDevum, jpiccolo, can you use cdrecord?06:09
trappistDr_Willis: I'll try apt-get install --reinstall on some font packs06:09
AWOSDev!cdrecord06:09
ubotucdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 547 kB, installed size 1136 kB06:09
earthsoundjpiccolo: have you ever tried graveman?06:11
earthsound!graveman06:11
ubotugraveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-4-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 690 kB, installed size 2424 kB06:11
jpiccolono i havent06:11
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jpiccolois there a problem burning a iso to a dvdrw06:12
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AWOSDevjpiccolo, not with cdrecord06:12
trappistDr_Willis: found the easy way to get most of them: trappist@grasshopper:/usr/share/fonts/truetype$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-*06:12
AWOSDevjpiccolo at least not with me06:12
trappistDr_Willis: where I'm in a dir full of ttf-* dirs that match package names, so the shell will expand ttf-* to what's in the dir (packages I have installed)06:13
earthsoundjpiccolo: are you getting any errors?06:13
Dr_Willisheh06:13
jpiccolook i will try that out once i get this burned06:13
earthsoundor just a silent fail?06:13
jpiccoloi was getting a io error06:13
jpiccolobut its working with a reg dvd06:13
intelikey!info '"dvd\\\+rw-tools"'06:13
ubotuPackage dvdrw-tools does not exist in any distro I know06:13
jpiccoloi have that installed06:13
intelikeyS:06:13
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AWOSDevmaybe the bot just needs a little06:14
AWOSDev!botsnack06:14
ubotuYum!06:14
jpiccoloha06:14
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AWOSDev!info dvd%2Brw-tools06:14
ubotuPackage dvd2brw-tools does not exist in any distro I know06:14
jpiccolomy buffer is having a hard time keeping up06:14
intelikeyor a botsmack maybe06:14
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AWOSDev!info dvd%+rw-tools06:15
ubotuPackage dvdrw-tools does not exist in any distro I know06:15
jpiccolothere is no such thing as defrag in linux right?06:15
AWOSDevIIRC You can't frag in Linux, so no06:15
Hawkwind!find tools06:15
ubotuFound: autotools-dev, bzrtools, cdrtools-doc, console-data, console-tools (and 212 others)06:15
trappistDr_Willis: in the unlikely event that you're interested, here's how it went down.  I was installing about 3k new fonts.  then "oh, these are personal fonts, I want system fonts" so I click cancel, then admin mode, then went to delete all the fonts, and since things were moving so slowly I thought it hadn't taken my admin mode click.06:15
AWOSDev!find more tools06:15
ubotuFound: xmore, libcarp-assert-more-perl, liblist-moreutils-perl, xlockmore, xlockmore-gl06:15
jpiccolodvd/n+rw-tools06:15
Hawkwind!find dvd-rw06:15
ubotuPackage/file dvd-rw does not exist in dapper06:15
AWOSDev!find rw-tools06:16
ubotuFound: dvd+rw-tools06:16
Dr_Willis:)06:16
AWOSDevHa!06:16
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Dr_Willis3000 fonts?06:16
Dr_Willisof which 2950 you will never ever use06:16
earthsoundjpiccolo: k3b is another one you could try06:16
trappistDr_Willis: probably true.06:16
earthsound!k3b06:16
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:16
jpiccoloi was using k3b06:16
jpiccolothats were i got the error06:16
HawkwindDr_Willis: I've got a URL for 6,970 fonts :P06:17
earthsoundsee if this page may help: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/06:17
AWOSDevI know, I know, Azureus is multiverse06:17
Dr_WillisHawkwind,  i collected all my font collections ive managed to collect.. :P onto a single dvd..06:17
AWOSDevbut can you guys help me with it?06:17
jpiccoloi will look for graveman when my disc is done06:17
wayne_how can i make this screen see-through?06:17
intelikeyi think i use three fonts06:17
Dr_Williswhats to help.. installit.. run it.06:17
AWOSDevrunning06:17
Dr_Willisbe sure you are using the sun java.. not the gcc one.06:17
AWOSDevI already apt-got it06:17
Hawkwindwayne_: Depends on the app if you can or not06:17
AWOSDevI got sun-java5-[bin/plugin/jre] 06:18
AWOSDevDEBUG::Wed Sep 13 00:13:52 EDT 2006::org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.DebugLight::printStackTrace::38:06:18
AWOSDev  java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Argument cannot be null06:18
Dr_Willisdo a 'java --version'06:18
Dr_Willisand see what java you are using.. read at --> http://pastebin.com/782784 also for my notes06:18
Dr_Willis:P06:18
jpiccolodont look at the screen, look through the screen06:18
AWOSDevjava version "1.4.2"06:18
Dr_Willisand the NEXT line says?06:18
Dr_Willis:)06:18
earthsoundjpiccolo: the URL I pasted has more info on DVD+RW/+R/-R|W than anyone in here.06:18
jpiccolook thanks earthsound06:19
AWOSDevgij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)06:19
Dr_Willisyou are NOT using the sun java06:19
Dr_Willisby default06:19
Dr_Willis:)06:19
AWOSDevOkay how do I un-apt-get the GCC one06:19
Dr_Willisand this is a common problem.. easy to fix.06:19
AWOSDevwhat is it's package name06:19
Dr_Willisthat pastebin url - shows what command to use06:19
Dr_Willisbut its so slow.. i cant even read my own notes..06:19
intelikeyi think maybe i don't have any java installed.   (and don't want any)06:20
Dr_Willis!java06:20
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:20
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Dr_WillisThat url about midway through tells how to set up the 'alternatives' to java06:20
jpiccolo<- have to have java for JESS to run06:20
AWOSDevpastebin.com contacted.  Waiting for reply...06:20
jpiccoloA.I. programming this semester06:20
AWOSDevpastebin.com contacted.  Waited for reply for the last 2 minutes but still waiting...06:21
Dr_WillisAWOSDev,  the !java url will be faster.. :P lol06:21
intelikey</knods>06:21
Dr_Willispastebin.com - needs to invest some $$ in servers06:21
AWOSDevThey want to, didn't you see the top banner the other day06:21
AWOSDev?06:21
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Dr_WillisI got so many ads blocked.. i cant recall seeing any banners there.06:21
AWOSDevI think maybe my Internet is down06:22
AWOSDevno wait, I'm on IRC...never mind :P06:22
AWOSDevI can't get the bot's link to come up either06:22
earthsoundsudo update-alternatives --config java06:22
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intelikeyi've talked on irc when the net was off line here....06:23
AWOSDevAh it finally came up06:23
intelikeyyou don't get many answers tho06:23
intelikeyhehhe  my  update-alternatives == /bin/true06:24
wayne_lmao06:24
AWOSDevI got 24 lines of06:24
AWOSDevupdate-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/appletviewer06:24
AWOSDevs/appletviewer/the other 23 apps06:24
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AWOSDevbut then it said using '/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/whatever' to provide 'whatever'06:25
AWOSDevso I guess it worked?06:25
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AWOSDevAm I offline?  Did nobody get that stuff about Java?06:26
intelikeyin fact  update-* == /bin/true06:26
intelikeyyes you are.06:26
intelikeyoh no i am...06:26
AWOSDevAh there you are06:26
intelikey:)06:26
AWOSDevIt's just sitting at the konsole06:27
AWOSDev*console06:27
AWOSDev:P06:27
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AWOSDevAzureus won't even crash now :(06:27
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AWOSDevI never thought I'd say this, but WHY won't this thing crash?06:28
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intelikeyis azureus supposed to crach ?06:28
AWOSDevNo, but it's better than freezing06:28
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SOLITACLIC AQUI ---> http://l1.lifogame.com/i/perfil.php?p=Solixa06:28
SOLITACLIC AQUI ---> http://l1.lifogame.com/i/perfil.php?p=Solixa06:28
SOLITACLIC AQUI ---> http://l1.lifogame.com/i/perfil.php?p=Solixa06:28
AWOSDevAt least crashing I know what the problem is06:28
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intelikeystart rm'ing /lib/*  things will crash quick.06:28
AWOSDevNah, if I wanted to do that I'd just rm -rf /06:29
AWOSDev:)06:29
Art_How do i give admin permission to use th ex-server?06:29
AWOSDevOkay better question06:29
Art_the x-server06:29
AWOSDevWhy *IS* this thing freezing?06:29
jpiccolowhat does sudo rm -rf / do?06:29
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intelikeyyeah and as soon as it did /lib it would crash with out rming any more.06:29
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AWOSDevjpiccolo, if you're from Windows, format c:06:30
jpiccolohaha i know06:30
intelikeyjpiccolo it remove most files on the root system06:30
intelikeybut not near all06:30
AWOSDevHey it finally loaded!06:31
jpiccolobut make it pretty much unuseable06:31
intelikeyyeah definitly un-useable06:31
jpiccologrr cedega is pissing me off06:32
AWOSDevIt says 'how proficient are you?  Select Beginner if you've never torrented before.  Select Advanced if you know what MTU and no-blocking I/O is'.  Well I know what MTU/NBIO is but I have no clue what torrent is.06:32
AWOSDevSo am I a beginner or advanced?06:33
skrykingAWOSDev, any error messages on the console, or in .xsessions-errors?06:33
AWOSDevHmm?06:33
AWOSDevAbout what?06:33
AWOSDevI got stuff about changeLocale06:33
AWOSDevand X Error: Bad Device06:33
AWOSDevthe normal stuff06:33
omarhello guys, how can I install koffice, I already got the home/omar/Desktop/koffice-1.5.91.tar.bz206:33
omarwhat's the line06:34
AWOSDevbunzip2 koffice-1.5.91.tar.bz206:35
AWOSDevtar -xf koffice-1.5.91.tar06:35
AWOSDevcd koffice-1.5.9106:35
AWOSDev./configure06:35
AWOSDevmake06:35
earthsoundomar: tar xjvf koffice-1.5.91.tar.bz206:35
AWOSDevmake install06:35
intelikeyno  just tar xf  koffice-1.5.91.tar.bz206:35
intelikeywhy make it hard06:35
abattoiromar: it's in the repos, i'd recommend installing from there06:35
abattoir!info koffice06:36
ubotukoffice: KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 76 kB06:36
omardidn't get you guys06:37
AWOSDevYeah it would probably be better to just06:37
AWOSDevsudo apt-get install koffice06:37
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AWOSDevYeah, omar, just sudo apt-get install koffice06:37
omarthanks06:37
AWOSDevso much easier than all the crap with the tarball06:37
omarappretiate it06:37
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AWOSDevNo problem.  :)06:37
we6jboBling Bling06:38
AWOSDevBling Bling?  What did you just get diamonds or something?06:38
wayne_has anyone gotten tuxbar to work in kubuntu?06:38
jpiccoloany of you guys have a bluetooth keyboard?06:38
wayne_if so can you give me some pointewrs06:38
wayne_pointers06:38
skrykinganyone use ktts with konversation?06:38
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AWOSDevjpiccolo, well all of my keyboards are hardwired PS/2s (well I have an XT but that's beyond the point) so know06:39
we6jboI got tuxbox racer but it crashes when I try to play it06:39
AWOSDevs/know/no06:39
jpiccolo!ktts06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
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AWOSDevktty I'm assuming06:39
AWOSDev!ktty06:39
skrykingktts06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
skrykingkde text to speech deamon06:39
jpiccoloi have a bt keyboard and it double letters all the time06:39
intelikeyskryking what about ktts ?06:40
intelikeyi have used it.06:40
AWOSDevjpiccolo, I have a laptop keyboard and *it* double letters all the time  :)06:40
skrykingI have it saying the new messages, but I can't figure out how to get it to filter out the < and the > wrapped around the usernames06:40
ErtainHello everyone.  I can't seem to print in Gimp.  It keeps saying, "lp: Error - no default destination".  My printer is connected, plus it is recognized (I was able to print out a picture before).  I need Gimp to resize the picture and print it out.06:40
jpiccoloouch man, yeah if i dont type for a while, it will like 8 letter stuff06:41
jpiccolosucks when i hit BackSpace06:41
intelikeyskryking hmmm never tried to filter out chars... idk.06:41
intelikeyi know what you mean but don't have any adivce.06:42
skrykingintelikey, thanks... its a nice way of "listening to irc channels" without having to look at them06:42
intelikeyindeed06:43
wayne_how does gimp compair to photoshop?06:43
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aseigowayne_: not as many features, completely different UI paradigm06:44
aseigowayne_: but Free software and has most of what most people need06:44
AWOSDevGIMP is free and Photoshop can run you $500-$1000.06:44
AWOSDevNeed I say more?  :P06:44
wayne_lol06:44
aseigowayne_: i find the gimp ui to be rather clumsy and the lack of certain features annoying, but it's pretty solid. perfect for doing graphics for websites ...06:44
wayne_i just want to get away from windows altogether06:44
intelikeyif you can use an external filter  tr  would work.    | tr -d '<>@#$%^&*()/\\[{] }' | ktts      or something like that.06:44
jpiccoloif you know ps already gimp is a pain in the ass06:44
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wayne_i know OS well06:45
wayne_PS**06:45
=== intelikey bets that sounds good unfiltered... :)
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skrykinglol, it just spits out the litteral translation of that string06:46
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AWOSDevaposthrophe greater-than less-than at hash dollar percent06:46
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AWOSDevlike that?06:47
intelikeyyeah i know.06:47
skrykingyup06:47
AWOSDevDoes it really say hash or does it say pound?06:48
AWOSDevfor #06:48
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we6jbothat's both a hash mark and a pound sign (#)06:48
intelikeypound for #   or hash for #    lol06:48
wayne_06:48
AWOSDevI know, I was asking what KTTS says for it :)06:48
skrykingfestival voice says hash06:49
wayne_duelboot06:49
skrykingatleast the mbrola female us english version06:49
AWOSDevWho's winning?  :D06:49
we6jboIf you dial 1-800-479-2533 and it will say dial 1 followed by the pound key for english... 2 followed by the pound for spanish etc06:49
AWOSDevWell on the phone...06:50
AWOSDevI mean on a car enthusiats forum I'm on one guy's name is 4k#Fe06:50
AWOSDev(meaning four thousand pounds of iron)06:50
wayne_does anyone here duel boot windows and ubuntu?06:50
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we6jbo4k number sign fe?06:50
earthsoundwayne_: you may want to try gimpshop06:50
royalhi I just downloaded the latest version of wine from Linuxgamers, unziped tar.bz in my home folder, and right now i'm trying to figure out how to install wine from this point?06:50
AWOSDevYeah, but Ubuntu usually wins.06:50
intelikey4k#Fe lol06:51
AWOSDev(duel not dual :) )06:51
jpiccolotheres probably no way to play a game with starforce 4 in linux06:51
earthsoundwayne_: http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=29406:51
intelikeytwo ton  ehh06:51
jpiccoloroyal06:51
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AWOSDevit's on http://www.crownvic.net Crown Victoria forums, if you were wondering06:51
earthsoundwayne_: I dual boot ubuntu and windows06:51
jpiccoloi have an easier way, just did it mysefl06:51
royalyes?06:51
royalpreferably it doesn't involve connecting the computer to the net06:51
ironfroggyare there any cups semi-experts around? ive having some troubleshooting problems.06:52
jpiccolooh06:52
we6jboI have a question06:52
royalcause therse only one connection in the house and the win computer is using it06:52
intelikeystate your question06:52
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jpiccolowell you can add   deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main06:52
royal(in other words the really big gaming custom machine computer... linux is on the 9310S gateway)06:53
we6jboI have two slots in the front of my computer and I was wondering what I could put in them06:53
jpiccoloto your repo and have adept install if for you06:53
we6jboI don't know what they are though06:53
we6jbocard slots06:53
intelikeywe6jbo that's a dangerous question06:53
jpiccolothats how i did it, and got the newest version06:53
royalthe version that has support for direct X 9?06:53
we6jbooh can they be hacked?06:53
intelikeyusb stick ?06:53
AWOSDevwe6jbo 9 outta 10 they're for digital camera flash cards.06:54
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we6jbolooks like this ====== ---==---06:54
we6jboones bigger than the other too06:54
intelikeywe6jbo sudo lshw | less   and see that comes up06:54
jpiccolowell i dont know, i didnt get that far, the game i was trying to play has starforce4 protection and i dont think that will work regardless06:54
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jpiccoloits 0.9.2006:55
ironfroggyANYWAY, i have a case where i can print successful test pages, but certain times i will print and the logs list the job as completing successfully and being sent to the printer without problems, but i get no printing. where can i look for more information on what is going on?06:55
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we6jbosays USB device error?06:56
royalyeah thats what I meant06:56
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AWOSDevWell my download will be done in two and a half hours06:57
AWOSDevanway06:57
AWOSDevIt's 1AM here on the East Coast so I think I'll go to bed now.06:57
AWOSDevG'night all.06:57
jpiccoloroyal, to me thats the easiest way06:57
royalbtw I heard lately some suggested repos to put down, coudl someone get me a list (not kidding) to put down for whern I do hook it up?06:57
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royalto the net that is06:58
XpticalHow do I recover files from a DVD-R when it wasn't closed properly?06:58
jpiccolodo you have the multiverse and suchs06:58
intelikeymy clock forgot that it's on gmt but im not in that tz,  without tzconfig  what is the best way to change that ?06:58
AWOSDevwe6jbo, good luck on trying to get those ports figured out.06:58
AWOSDevI still say they're for flash memory cards...06:58
obf213Anybody in here us hplip06:58
royalnot sure, heard somthing mentioned about it when I asked how to get Mp3 support06:59
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intelikey!repos06:59
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:59
intelikey!easysources07:00
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:00
jpiccolo!dvdisaster07:00
ubotudvdisaster: data loss/scratch/aging protection for CD/DVD media. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.64.2-1 (dapper), package size 157 kB, installed size 520 kB07:00
jpiccolothere Xptical07:00
jpiccolobest i can think of07:00
royalI think I will try that07:01
royaltommorow that is07:01
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Xpticalthanks07:02
royalso to get wine for my install I should add deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main07:02
jpiccoloworth a shot07:02
royaljust to reveiw07:02
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jpiccoloroyal, go here http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb07:04
jpiccoloexplains it all07:04
obf213the last 9 or so packages ive tried to install have had a break07:04
obf213whats the problem07:04
jpiccolovery easy07:04
ironfroggyhow can i find what package installed a given file?07:04
royalok07:04
obf213!HP07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about HP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
jpiccoloironfroggy, go to the details button07:05
jpiccolothen installed files07:05
ironfroggyno details button. im ssh'ed into a remote box.07:05
jpiccolooh, no idea then07:06
ironfroggyand i dont know what the package is, so how could i get to that button in the first place?07:06
jpiccoloyou dont know what package you installed07:06
Jucatoironfroggy: try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror07:06
ironfroggyJucato: remote box07:07
Jucatothen use file search07:07
jpiccolohe is sshed07:07
Jucatooh07:07
Jucatooops07:07
Jucato:(07:07
ironfroggyjpiccolo: no. its a python module, and im trying to find the name of the package that it came from, because i need it locally.07:07
bnilsenSeeking suggestions before I reinstall Dapper:  Struggling with a hardware problem I loaded Xbuntu and Kbuntu Guis.  Now how do I get rid of them?07:07
jpiccolodo you know what the name of the file you need is?07:08
ironfroggyyes07:08
jpiccolowhat is it07:08
pierrethHow can I install Kubuntu Polyester?07:08
obf213init.d is an initialzing file or somthing07:08
Jucato!kde-style-polyester07:08
ubotukde-style-polyester: The Polyester widget style for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 440 kB07:08
ironfroggy... nevermind. went to grab the name from its __file__ attribute, to see that it was installed from an egg, not a deb.07:08
jpiccolook07:09
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pierrethubotu: I don't see it in the installer07:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I don't see it in the installer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:09
obf213if anyone here has this http://hplip.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html the hp device manager gui tell me how you got it07:09
Jucatopierreth: you have to enable the Universe repository07:10
royaland before I go where can I get a doccumentation on how to enable MP3 support?07:10
Jucatopierreth:  here's a guide for that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:10
obf213!mp307:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:10
obf213anybody here use an hp printer/scanner ve been trying for the past 2 hrs to get the scanner to work07:11
pierrethJucato: the page is empty07:11
obf213does anyone have this http://hplip.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html07:11
Jucatopierreth: wait for it to load07:11
jpiccoloroyal, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:11
pierrethJucato: OK07:12
royallol they're both the same url07:12
obf213anyboyd know how to set up a printer!07:12
Jucatoroyal: anyway, the RestrictedFormats page is what you needed07:12
obf213using hplip or w/e ur supposed to use07:12
cps1966! kdelibs4c2a07:13
ubotukdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 8138 kB, installed size 24336 kB07:13
jpiccolooops, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:13
obf213!help07:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:14
cps1966why is md5sum mismatch07:14
obf213!help help help07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help help help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
MistaEDobf213: afaik the option for hplip is hidden normally unless a hp printer is detected, if it didn't appear you can go to applications > accessories > alacarte menu editor and i think you can tick the display for it in there under system07:14
obf213i had an hp printer hooked up and set up07:14
MistaEDso then you can go system > administration > hplip07:14
obf213and hplip would show up07:14
MistaEDoh ok07:14
obf213i dont have system admininstration either07:15
obf213why is my menu missing so manythings07:15
MistaEDthe scanner doesn't get detected with xsane?07:15
JucatoMistaED: that menu is for GNOME07:15
obf213no07:15
MistaEDoh crap, i'm in #kubunu hehe07:15
MistaEDdidn't realise, sorry07:15
aseigough.. alacarte? nah, use kmenuedit or right click on the applications menu =)07:15
Jucato:D07:15
Jucatohi aseigo! :)07:15
aseigoJucato: yo07:15
obf213i installed hplip, hpoj, hpeverything evry foo driver, everthing possible07:15
aseigoobf213: and when you run hplip nothing shows up?07:16
obf213i set up an hp printer/scanner/copier using the regular setup method.07:16
royalso how do I get libakode2-mpeg?07:16
obf213nothing happens07:16
obf213hplip is not a command it says07:16
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obf213i can search for hplip and i find files07:16
obf213somehow or another im supposed to get this07:16
MistaEDobf213: the scanner i think is managed by something else, i know kde has a good scanning app which detected a HP scanner on top of a printer07:16
obf213http://hplip.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html07:16
Jucatoroyal: you have to enable the universe repository to get libakode2-mpeg07:17
aseigokooka?07:17
MistaEDyes kooka07:17
obf213kooka doesent detect anything07:17
aseigoroyal: you need to install libakode2-mpeg07:17
obf213hplip thing is supposed to do all that stuff for you07:17
MistaEDi think this was with suse10 though07:17
jpiccoloyeah universe repos07:17
Jucatokooka... reminds me of cookies... :)07:17
aseigoroyal: hint for future ... `apt-cache search libakode` would've told you that =) or typing "libakode" into the search bar in adept07:17
aseigoah, yeha. you need universe07:17
obf213i also instaled hpoj07:17
aseigopeople run *buntu w/out universe? ;)07:18
Jucatoor using Kubuntu's very helpful "apt:/" kio slave :)07:18
jpiccoloi dont use akode though07:18
obf213and tried to run its gui which would work07:18
Jucatoaseigo: yep, disabled by default :D07:18
jpiccoloaseigo, i guess so07:18
Jucato(like many other things.. :D )07:18
royalits a bit confusing for a long time windows user... oh well. I gotta get to bed... cold setting in :(07:18
royalcya07:18
jpiccololater07:18
Jucatoroyal: yeah. things might look a bit differently when you're feeling ill :(07:19
Jucatobetter get some rest first :)07:19
royalyeah07:19
royalmaybe I should ask again tommorow cause this isn't sinking in07:19
obf213this is lame. they need to make the next version of kubuntu better so you dont have to spend over 2hrs just trying to get a scanner to work.07:19
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Healotthat means your scanner is lame )07:20
cps1966why am i getting md5sum mismatch for  kdelibs4c2a07:20
obf213lol i cant get programs to open is the problem07:21
obf213i jsut get errors and such07:21
Healotcps1966: download or apt-get the package again07:21
obf213i download 9million packages and thinks still dont open07:21
cps1966i have many times even the dvd has bad file07:21
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Jucatocps1966: it also depends from which repository you are getting it. the one from Kubuntu.org is different from the archive.ubuntu.com07:21
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Jucatoheh07:22
Healotobf213: really, whine somewhere else :=>07:22
Jucatoobf213: probably because the hardware was "made for Windows"07:22
cps1966Healot:  why would install dvd have bad package07:23
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obf213meh.....07:23
Jucatocps1966: were you able to check the md5sum of the DVD ISO before you burned it?07:23
obf213!wiki07:23
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation07:23
cps1966yes07:23
Healoti don't know, prolly bad DVD-rom drive...07:23
jpiccolofor me linux is a life style, i choose to use it becuse i was tired of windows, and being a comp sci major i better learn it07:23
Jucatoobf213: you might have better search results in http://help.ubuntu.com/community07:24
cps1966Healot:  its the same problem with 6.06 and 6.06.107:24
jpiccolois anyone playing fear combat?07:24
Healotcps1966: it's your DVD-rom drive07:25
Jucatocps1966: from which md5sum are you comparing kdelibs4c2a to?07:25
cps1966no its not07:25
cps1966does the same thing from repositories07:25
jpiccolo!hostname07:27
ubotuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly07:27
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cps1966b47817f26a5273b49081f277874c9429   thats the md5sum i get07:28
jpiccolo!domain name07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about domain name - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:29
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obf213the past hour our so every package i download has an error break, but then it says its installeld07:32
obf213so is it instaled or wht and why is this happendn to every package07:32
Jucatoobf213: maybe there error isn't for the package you are installing?07:32
obf213im installin one package at a time07:33
Jucatomaybe an error left over from a previous package? *shrugs*07:33
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pierrethJucato: thank you07:37
jpiccoloanyone try fear combat in wine?07:38
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obf213what is init.d07:39
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Coffeeman1agh i forgot how to get my comp out of knsole mode its like ctrl shift f6 or something07:39
Coffeeman1anyone know?07:39
obf213if something has an init.d can it be run07:39
HealotCtrl+Alt+F7 >> for X tty07:40
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Jucatohe's gone, though...07:41
obf213wht does init.d mean07:41
Healoti guess pressed Ctrl+Alt+Backspace07:41
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obf213!init.d07:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
obf213!init07:49
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto07:49
obf213!bum07:50
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto07:50
Jucato!multiverse > Jucato07:51
obf213!rc.d07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
Jucato!multiverse07:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:52
obf213!rc07:52
uboturc: an implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-2 (dapper), package size 73 kB, installed size 188 kB07:52
abattoir!repos07:52
flaccid_!xgl07:52
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:52
flaccid_interesting07:53
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Jucatoobf213: you can also PM ubotu if you're not sure what you're looking for. :)07:53
abattoir!repos07:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:53
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obf213o yeah i guess i could pm ubuto07:57
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draikAnyone know how I can get a printout of the packages I have installed? Similar to this list... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2329308:02
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Jucatodraik???08:04
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Jucatodraik: with complete details?08:05
draikyup08:05
Jucatohm....08:06
Jucatoi'm clueless...08:06
Jucato:(08:06
abattoirdraik: apt-cache show 3dchess08:07
Jucatoabattoir: for all installed packages....08:07
abattoirJucato: well, you can put a script in...08:08
draikwhat script?08:08
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draikI want a list of everything installed08:08
abattoiror rather put it in a script08:08
abattoirdraik: wait a sec...08:08
draikok08:08
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abattoirdraik: you know there'll be thousands of packages right?08:08
draikthat's fine08:09
abattoirdraik: do you want to 'print' them as in a printer?08:09
abattoiror do you want it just output to the screen?08:09
draikI will just add    > /path/filename08:09
draikscreen is fine, but I also want them in a file08:09
alexiconany of you lot used vmware?08:09
skrykingalexicon, I do08:09
skrykingwhatcha need?08:10
alexiconhrmm08:10
alexiconis there a walk through bout installing windows with it08:10
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abattoirdraik: and you want only 'installed' ones right, not everything in the repos?08:10
alexicon!vmware08:10
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare08:10
draikI was going to upload my previous install's file, but my server has issues08:10
draikabattoir, that's right08:10
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Jucatough... all these questions about VMWare Server before I could register and get a serial number...08:12
abattoirJucato: why do you want the server?08:12
abattoirjust use the player08:12
pierrethdoes someone was able to install Flash?08:12
abattoiruse qemu to create the images, and play them w/ vmware08:13
Jucatoabattoir: so that I could make VMWare appliances/images...08:13
skrykingserver is free, and can create new images08:13
Jucatoabattoir: how about vmware tools?08:13
Jucato!flash > pierreth08:13
abattoirJucato: vmware tools?08:13
Jucatoyes, to make them run faster08:13
skrykingvmware-server is now free from vmware.com08:14
draik!opengl08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
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Jucatoskryking: yeah.. but to get the serial number... I have to register... and the things I have to enter presumes that I'm working in a company or something.. :(08:14
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draikabattoir, anything on those installed packages?08:15
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abattoirdraik: wait, my shell scripting skills are a bit rusty... one sec08:17
draikok08:17
draikthx08:17
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wryhey guys.08:18
skrykingmake up your own company08:18
skrykingget a hotmail account to recieve the key...08:18
wrykmail's bein nasty to me!08:18
Jucatoskryking: what do I enter for the "Serial numbers needed (1-100)" field?08:18
skrykingwhat ever you want, I selected 1 since I only needed one copy08:19
Jucatoaaaah08:20
wryI can't send mail, but receiving it no probs.08:20
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Jucatowry: using KMail?08:20
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wryJucato---> I'd rather not, but it's all I gots at the mo, what would you suggest?08:21
Jucatowry: do you get any error messages/pop-ups when sending mail?08:22
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_bender_Is the MAKE command included by default in Kubuntu...since doesn't seem to think I have it...:\08:23
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jpiccoloi am pretty sure make is running the make file in the dir08:27
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wryjucato--> yup.. (The server responded: "sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)")08:27
Jucato_bender_: no. you have to install "build-essential" to get everything you need for compiling from source08:27
_bender_Ahh kk08:27
draikWhat's the diff between & and &&?08:27
_bender_Off to Adept I go, weird though would have thought MAKE would be included by default08:28
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_bender_thx btww08:28
Jucato_bender_: heh some people think so too. apparently, there's more than meets the eye about it...08:28
_bender_Hmm wouldn't doubt it, planning to try out this checkinstall with it to see how that works08:29
Jucatodraik: not exactly sure what "&" does in BASH, but "&&" runs the command following it, only after the command preceding it has finished...08:29
Jucato_bender_: you might have a better experience with checkinstall08:29
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draikJucato, that's all I know as well08:29
jpiccolohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGSpv_k8rY08:30
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abattoirdraik: bleh... i'm too hungry to think... basically 'dpkg -l' gives all the installed packages... and you pass each to apt-cache show08:30
abattoirdraik: and then print them or pipe themmm08:30
draikhmmm08:30
abattoirdraik: if you can wait a bit, i'll churn out a proper script that works08:30
_bender_hmmm so do I need make and checkinstall or can checkinstall do everything make already does?08:30
abattoiram hungry now :P08:30
draikno way of doing that ot all of the installed items?08:30
pascalFRdraik:   & puts the preceeding command in the background08:30
draikI can wait08:30
abattoirdraik: ok, ill get back to you when i'm done :)08:31
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draikpascalFR, example?08:31
Jucato_bender_: no. checkinstall doesn't do make for you. it's ./configure, make, then checkinstall08:31
_bender_ah kk08:31
pascalFRdraik:  &&           command1 && command2     command2 will be executed if command1 returns status code 008:31
Jucatodraik: ah yes. for example, if you launch a GUI program from Konsole, you won't return to the prompt unless the GUI program exits. if you press Ctrl+C in Konsole (Cancel), the GUI program will also close08:32
Jucatodraik: so in order to prevent that, you would put & after the command, (AFAIK)08:33
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pascalFRdraik:   type         sleep 10 && echo coucou &            :)    after entering that  you have the prompt again  but  (sleep 10 && echo coucou)  still runs in the background  and will echo coucou at the konsole in 10 seconds08:33
pascalFRJucato: yes this is one usage08:33
draikwon't sleep cause kubuntu to shutdown?08:33
pascalFRJucato:  to put a process in the background08:33
Jucatodraik: no08:34
draikok, I thought sleep caused it to shutdown08:34
draikok08:34
Jucatoer... that's AFAIK08:34
pascalFRdraik: sleep  makes a pause  n seconds08:34
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pascalFRdraik:  in my example it is to improve the experience ;)08:35
draikThat it is08:35
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pascalFRdraik: coucou will appear magically while you are at the prompt and not immediatly08:35
draikright, after 10 seconds08:35
pascalFRyeah08:36
pascalFRthere is also  ||   in shell08:36
draikhmmm... but now the cursor is under the prompt,  not doing anything08:36
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pascalFRyes just a side effect of beeing in a caracter konsole08:36
Jucato...08:36
pascalFRjuste press enter08:36
draikoic08:37
draikvery cool08:37
draikthank you08:37
pascalFRand you will see the backgroud process terminates08:37
draikyup08:37
draik[1] +  Done                    sleep 10 && echo coucou08:37
pascalFRthe shell signals background processes08:37
pascalFRyes08:37
pascalFRand 1 is the ID of the background process  for this shell08:37
pascalFRyou can control it from the shell08:38
pascalFRwith  fg and bg command  and ctrl-Z08:38
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pascalFRif it last enough time in the background  you can put it in the foreground with  fg %108:39
pascalFRthen put it again in the back with  crtl-z which interrupt it and give you the shell prompt08:39
pascalFRand bg which put it in the back again08:39
pascalFRman bash  will teach you a lot :)08:40
draikI can tell08:40
draikThank you for that lessoon08:40
draik*lesson08:40
pascalFRdont hesitate to play with it in a temporary directory08:40
pascalFRbut not under root ! :)08:40
pascalFRi mean not beeing root user08:41
draikright08:41
pascalFRmy pleasure08:41
draikI try to avoid doing anything under root unless necessary08:41
pascalFRare u student ?08:41
draikYour pleasure, my treat08:41
draikI am a student for Linux, teacher for winxp08:41
pascalFRho very nice08:41
draikIt's something08:42
pascalFRso you can speak and share the 2 worlds08:42
draikvery true08:42
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draikbut I'd sooner preach about linux than winxp08:42
pascalFRand unite people :)  ubuntu08:42
jpiccolois there going to be a kedgy?08:42
draikor win for that matter08:42
draikkedgy, that's a funny name08:42
flaccid_nebody use icegenerator?08:43
draikalmost sounds like a drunken slur08:43
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pascalFRkedgy ? hum i am not so fluent in english  i m french08:43
draikK edgy08:43
pascalFRhooooooooo :)08:43
draikedgy is the next version of ubuntu08:43
pascalFRyes i know :)08:43
draikok08:43
pascalFRdidnt think of k-edgy :)08:44
draikoic08:44
draik:p08:44
jpiccoloi like kde better than gnome08:44
pascalFRi'l debug edgy as soon as it is sufficiently stable08:44
draikI'll USE edgy as soon as it's stable08:44
pascalFRi like to participate in last debugging work08:44
pascalFRhihi draik   same here ;)08:45
draikI have enough issues with Kubuntu and the many things I'm trying to do that I don't need anything unstable08:45
pascalFRdraik: what kind of issues ?08:45
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draikOpenGL won't work08:45
pascalFRdid u feel bug reports ?08:45
draikk9Copy won't work08:45
gsuvegas qdvdauthor too08:46
draikit's not so much as "won't" as it is "doesn't"08:46
pascalFRdid u report ?08:46
draiknah08:46
pascalFRhumm so dont expect any fix :)08:46
pascalFRappart accidentally08:47
jpiccolois glxgears opengl?08:47
pascalFRi think so08:47
draikit was working a few days ago, and now that I had to reinstall everything, I don't know what I'm misisng08:47
draik*missing08:47
pascalFRwont or dont work   in computer science  wont make us advance on problems   we need symptoms error msg etc08:48
draikk9Copy will read the DVD, just not author it08:48
jpiccolofear combat almost done, time to see if it works on wine08:48
pascalFRway to reproduce08:48
draikwhen I try to ISO or burn to a DVD08:48
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pascalFRdraik: can you as least burn any dvd on your machine   with k3b for example08:49
draikYes08:49
draikI can burn08:49
draikAn error occured while running DVDAuthor: play_cell: Fatal: read failed for 67 sectors at 10099 WARN: Cannot detect pts for VOBU if there is no audio or video WARN: Using SCR instead. ERR: Cannot infer pts for VOBU if there is no audio or video and it is the ERR: first VOBU.08:49
pascalFRi dont know k9copy  what is the advantage ?08:50
draikThat's the error I get when I try to author a DVD with k9copy08:50
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draikCopy DVDs08:50
draikDVD movies08:50
pascalFRseems to be a dvdauthor error08:50
draikyup08:50
draikbut I don't know where to begin looking08:50
pascalFRcan you play it correctly ?08:51
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pascalFRthe original08:51
pascalFRseems to be a read error08:51
pascalFRFatal: read failed for 67 sectors08:51
pascalFRmight be a protected dvd or reader problem08:52
draikNope08:52
draikdone this DVD before08:52
draikI can play it08:53
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pascalFRhttp://flavor8.com/index.php/2006/04/08/how-to-back-up-your-dvds-in-ubuntu-ii/08:54
draikThank you08:55
pascalFRdraik: otherwise  try k3b08:55
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draikk3b won't do DVD movies, only DVD data08:55
pascalFRi never tried  it has a copy dvd option   you think it only copies data dvd08:57
pascalFRmaybe for patent problems yes08:57
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charlie5hi ... is there any reason not to d/l shockwace plugin that konqeror asks for now and then ?09:01
pascalFRdraik:  dpkg -l dvdauthor ?09:01
charlie5security or such, for instance09:02
pascalFRcharlie5: there is not shockwave for linux09:02
pascalFRcharlie5: shockwave is activex based09:02
pascalFRso win only09:02
charlie5pascalFR: thanks ... so i should ignore konqeror when it asks to d/l it ?09:02
pascalFRyes charlie5   only  flash works09:03
draikVersion 0.6.11-309:03
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pascalFRdraik: well as i see on http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59028   the project is not evolving since 02/2005 ...09:03
_tmac_can someone here help me out with installing nvidia drivers?09:04
_tmac_!nvidia-glx09:04
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB09:04
charlie5um, it asks for 'shockwave flash media' plugin ... is that 'flash' plugin ?09:04
_tmac_!automatix09:04
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.09:04
draikwell, that's the version I have09:04
charlie5_tmac_: i've just done it recently, maybe i can help09:04
pascalFRcharlie5:  it is confusing but as long as u see shockwave u can ignore09:04
_tmac_actually i've done it 3 times in the past two or three days09:04
_tmac_and for some reason it doesn't want to work now09:05
_tmac_when I change my "nv" to "nvidia" in my xorg.conf and reload X it goes crazy09:05
charlie5pascalFR: ok, great! ... thanks, this has been buggin me for a while :)09:05
_tmac_and i get a Gui error starting up gdm09:05
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charlie5do you get the nvidia flash screen on boot ?09:07
_tmac_no09:07
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charlie5what error does startx give ?09:07
_tmac_"no monitors found"09:07
_tmac_or something09:07
_tmac_I don't remember exactly09:07
charlie5can you paste ?09:08
_tmac_no09:08
_tmac_i can't select anything09:08
_tmac_it's a big blue screen09:08
charlie5you startx from a terminal ?09:08
_tmac_no it automatically starts up09:08
_tmac_it runs gdm start09:09
_tmac_and crashes09:09
_tmac_and brings me to terminal09:09
charlie5can you got to a terminal (ctrl-alt-F1) and login and type startx ?09:09
_tmac_so i have to kill process09:09
pascalFRdraik: the best seems to report these msg to the author of dvdauthor09:09
_tmac_and then gdm start again09:09
_tmac_ifi i do that it crashes though09:09
_tmac_so I have to re-edit my xorg.conf and switch "nvidia" back to "nv"09:09
_tmac_or it won't load09:09
draikI guess09:09
draikI am looking at   http://k9copy.free.fr/09:09
charlie5_tmac_: what happens if you hit ctrl-alt-F1 ?09:10
_tmac_but I know for a fact last time I had it set up i was using the "nvidia" instead of NV, i remember specifially changing it09:10
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_tmac_i'm talking to you on KDE right now09:10
pascalFRdraik: project admin is http://sourceforge.net/users/trckjunky/09:10
_tmac_if i push ctrl alt f1 i'm assuming I won't be here any longer to continue this conversation09:10
charlie5_tmac_: have you done a system update lately ?09:11
_tmac_yes09:11
_tmac_I just installed a few hours ago and updated09:11
charlie5ok, there was a brief prob with xorg libs that stuffed up nvidia ... but its fixed now09:11
_tmac_yeah I know09:12
charlie5if you have latest package should be ok09:12
pascalFRdraik:  yes begin with k9copy@free.fr  and see what he thinks about the pbme09:12
_tmac_it was working earlier today09:12
_tmac_and then I screwed something else up so i decided to reinstall ubuntu completely09:12
_tmac_after I updated i ran apt-get install nvidia-glx09:12
_tmac_and edited the xorg.conf to switch "nv" to "nvidia" and add enable composite extension09:13
plugshi, how do i share a folder on my network so my windows machine can access it?09:13
charlie5_tmac_: does the kernel version your loading match the linux-restricted-modules version you have ?09:13
_tmac_i have no idea09:13
|lostbyte|Where is it that makes the interface up when a connection is established from the outside ?09:13
_tmac_how would I check that09:14
|lostbyte|Automatically.09:14
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pascalFR9am in france09:14
deinplugs, ubuntu doesnt do samba shares well, theres alot of editing of files etc09:14
charlie5_tmac_: when you boot from grub ... check the kernel version ... then use adept to check the version of linux-restricted-modules ... if they don't match, that might be the prob09:14
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_tmac_but how would that even happen?09:15
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deinbtw, what kernel do i need to download to get dual core working?09:15
deinsmp?09:15
plugsdein i just realized since i can view that computer, i dont need to share mine right now so i dont have to worry about it now. thanks for the heads up though when i need to, though =] 09:15
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charlie5if you do a system update, it may install a new kernel version (which does not match the linux-restricted-module version) and automatically update grub to use the new kernel version09:16
deinnp i hues09:16
charlie5just guessing tho09:16
_tmac_i'll brb09:16
deinguess*09:16
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plugslol whatever09:17
goamindHello!09:18
deinguys, what kernel image would i use?09:18
deinheya09:18
goamindI want to install Yahoo mes in ubuntu 6.1...09:18
deinthe i686 one?09:18
goamindand it asks for some libs that I don't have in the daper09:18
deinyou may have to build them from source goamind09:19
goamind ymessenger depends on libssl0.9.6; however:09:19
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goamind  Package libssl0.9.6 is not installed.09:19
deinbtw, why do you want yim?09:19
goamindymessenger depends on xlibs (>> 3.3.6); however:09:19
goamind  Package xlibs is not installed.09:19
goamindI kinda don't like Gaim09:19
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deinyou might wanna try kopete09:19
goamindwhat has it more than gaim?09:19
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draikFIGURED IT OUT!!!!09:20
deinplus yahoo instant messenger on linux is about as featureful as gaim09:20
draikpascalFR, I got it09:20
skrykinginteroperability with kontact suit09:20
deinso it's kinda useless09:20
goamindhmmm09:20
goamindis kopete better?09:20
deinits really a matter of preference09:21
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draikk9Copy will NOT burn to DVD, you have to create the files and then burn them09:21
draikugh09:21
goamindI dont like the fact that others can't send files through it09:21
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deinthrough gaim?09:21
deinkopete has the same problem, and yahoo instant messenger does too if i remember correctly09:22
skrykingis there a kubuntu specific mailing list?09:22
Jucatoskryking: yes. kubuntu-users09:23
Jucatohold on I'll get a link09:23
draikJucato09:23
draikI got it09:23
draikit's working09:23
Jucatodraik: nice! :)09:23
draikk9copy has an issue with burning straight to DVD09:23
Jucatohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users09:24
draikyou have to save the info to your hdd and then burn it to DVD09:24
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draikwell, time to shower (I shaved my head)09:24
cps1966!source-o-matic09:24
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:24
draikTTYL Jucato09:24
draikif pastelFR comes back, tell him I said Thanks09:25
Jucatosure09:25
skrykingJucato: thanks09:25
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skrykingI think I finally have the filters for ktts working with konversation...09:26
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grexk!seen Jucato09:27
ubotuJucato is on IRC right now!09:27
jpiccolois there a command to see how much disk space i have left09:28
grexkdf09:28
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skrykinguse df -k or df -h to get it in a more readable format, use -l with it if you don't want to wait on remotely mounted disks09:29
Jucatogrexk: heh :)09:30
grexkdu for disk usage09:30
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Jucatojpiccolo: you could also right-click on an empty space in Konqueror (file browser mode) and select Properties09:30
grexkJucato: mwaaaaaaaahhh09:30
Jucatolol09:30
grexkJucato: lol09:31
Jucatoor if you want a nice graphical representation, you could install Filelight :)09:31
skrykingfilelight is nice09:31
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Jucatovery nice... if only it didn't crash everytime you close it...09:31
grexkqtparted as well09:31
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grexknone so far...09:32
Jucatohm.. they're both GUI's? :D09:32
skrykingboth written in c++?09:32
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Jucatohm.. I think it ends there... :)09:33
grexkThe End09:33
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emonkeyhello09:34
grexkhi09:34
Jucatohi09:34
emonkeyI've got a huge problem that all my hotkeys doesn't work anymore09:34
emonkeyI've tryed to change some Design settings on kde09:34
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emonkeynow every login starts the kde welcome assistent09:35
emonkeyAnd if I try to open the hotkey dialog in the system settings the programm crashes everey time09:35
emonkeyheres the traceback:09:35
emonkeyhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/16872909:35
emonkeyIs there a solution for that? Does somebody knows that problem09:36
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punkmexichello i have just connected via kubuntu for first time..i notice my monitor in a resolution in 800x 600 but i know i can see it in 1200 but it doesnt give me option is there a way to solve it without rebooting cuz im dialup09:37
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Kiongku_try alt+F2 and then run kcontrol emonkey09:40
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emonkeyKiongku_, Alt+F2 doesn't work too09:40
emonkeybut i can start it through the run command in the menue09:40
Kiongku_ah sorry sorry.. but anyway run it and try09:41
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emonkeyKiongku_, ok it works, i can change some hotkey, but it doesn't work either09:42
Kiongku_emonkey: .. hmm sorry i'm not really good in those config options :(09:43
Kiongku_emonkey: may be there's another setting thats wrong..09:43
emonkeyno problem... suspect is too that on every login the login assisten is starting....09:44
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Kiongku_emonkey: does it ask u for country etc.. for starter stuff?09:45
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emonkeyKiongku_, yes every login09:45
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Kiongku_emonkey: well i had this problem too before..09:46
emonkeyso how u have fixed it?09:46
Kiongku_emonkey: i edited the file that runs at startup09:46
Kiongku_emonkey: i commented the lines that run the assistant09:46
emonkey/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc right?09:46
Kiongku_emonkey: i dunt think so.. it was more like kderc or something09:47
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emonkeyok, that should fix that one problem but I think there's a relation between all this problems... I've got this till a changed some Design things... :(09:48
Kiongku_emonkey: oh O_O09:48
Jucato /usr/bin/startkde I think...09:48
Kiongku_emonkey: personally i wanted to customise the desktop but rather lazy for it to crash right now lol09:48
Kiongku_Jucato: yo09:49
Jucatohi :)09:49
Kiongku_Jucato: did u ever encounter dat video files?09:49
skrykingwell its 2:50 am, I have to get up at 6:30am ... better go to bed09:49
emonkeyoh here's 09:5009:49
emonkeygn8 skryking09:50
JucatoKiongku_: in windows, yeas...09:50
Jucatoyes*09:50
Kiongku_its 11:50 am here... close to lunch time09:50
Jucato(almost 4pm here...)09:50
Kiongku_Jucato: hwo about linux :p?09:50
wryis there a kaffeine firofx plugin or does the totem xine one do the trick?09:51
JucatoKiongku_: let me check. most VCD's I think use something like AVSEQsomething.DAT?09:51
Kiongku_yah.. but i have it as a stand alone file.. not in a VCD09:51
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Jucatohm...09:52
Jucatoand Kaffeine won't play them?09:52
Kiongku_Jucato: yah... error09:52
Jucatolet me check...09:52
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ninHerJucato have you tried vlc for playing everything ?09:55
JucatoninHer: nope. never had a need to actually...09:55
JucatoKiongku_: error here too. but playing a VCD works fine09:55
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ninHermy particular opinion is that vlc beats kaffeine09:56
ninHergive it a try09:56
Kiongku_darn..09:56
Jucatoprobably... except that I have had no reason to actually try it.09:56
IRCMonkeyXhi to all , i have installed ubuntu at my pc at the moment, i have kubuntu cd too now , how can i install kubuntu on ubuntu withoult losing any data ? is it possible ?09:56
JucatoKaffeine just works for what I need...09:56
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Kiongku_:\09:56
ninHerok, it is up to you09:56
Jucatoactually I do remember having used VLC twice in Breezy09:57
b0uncerIRCMonkeyX: just install kubuntu-desktop using Synaptic09:57
b0uncerand perhaps remove ubuntu-desktop and the depending packages if you wish09:57
IRCMonkeyXb0uncer: i have limited adsl connection, cant i do it from kubuntu cd ?09:57
b0uncerif you keep both gnome and kde you'll get both apps in both environment's menus, so it's a bit of a mess..but there's a solution for that in the wiki if I'm correct09:58
JucatoIRCMonkeyX: not if that Kubuntu CD is the Desktop CD09:58
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IRCMonkeyXwhat about removing ubuntu and installing kubuntu ?09:58
b0unceryeah..but installing kubuntu-desktop installs basically kde and some stuff, some of the basic apps are already there so you are not downloading a complete 700 megs anyway09:58
b0uncerIRCMonkeyX: if you've done the normal installation and your /home is not on a separate partition, you'll lose data09:59
Jucatotrue.. probably just 1/3 of the contents of the CD...09:59
JucatoIRCMonkeyX: you'll probably want to install kubuntu-desktop first before removing ubuntu09:59
IRCMonkeyXin fact, i dont know exactly the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, is it only kde desktop ,*10:00
IRCMonkeyX?10:00
JucatoThis guide might help in installing KDE: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde10:00
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b0uncerIRCMonkeyX: the difference is that they have different desktop environments (KDE vs Gnome), and different sets of apps to do different tasks10:01
b0uncerlike Kaffeine (video player) on Kubuntu, and Totem on Ubuntu10:01
b0uncerbut basically it's just the same. just different apps to do the job10:01
b0unceryou can think it like this: you've got only one OS (Ubuntu linux) but you can choose how it looks out; check screenshots at www.kde.org and www.gnome.org10:02
IRCMonkeyXb0uncer: if so, i need to download many new things ? shouldnt i use kubuntu cd instead synaptic ? isnt it better ?10:03
b0uncerwell with Kubuntu cd install you'll get the whole system in one shot. Using synaptic you only download the apps you lack, which is less than the whole cd10:03
JucatoIRCMonkeyX: you won't be able to do that with the Desktop CD. the Desktop CD will completely overwrite everything10:04
b0unceron the other hand, using Kubuntu cd you'll have to format your harddisk, using synaptic you just add software10:04
IRCMonkeyXi see...10:04
IRCMonkeyXhow can i format the drive where ubuntu is ? is it from terminal ?10:05
b0uncerthe installation does it automatically, but it means you lose everything on your harddisk unless you back it up first10:05
IRCMonkeyXi mean lets say i dont wanna use ubuntu and kubuntu10:05
IRCMonkeyXjust formatting ubuntu ?10:06
b0uncerso you mean you just want to get an empty harddisk?10:06
IRCMonkeyXnope10:06
IRCMonkeyXi have partitions, dual os, xp and ubuntu10:07
b0uncerok10:07
b0uncerso you want to get rid of ubuntu, so that you'll have only XP and empty space10:07
b0uncerright?10:07
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IRCMonkeyXi wi will not do it, but i wanna know the way, yes exactly like what you said10:07
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_tmac_well10:08
_tmac_charlie5: i got it working10:08
_tmac_i just reinstalled ubuntu, then kubuntu, and then nvidia drivers10:08
b0uncerthen you'll need to have the XP recovery console that's either on the XP install disks or installed on your harddisk10:08
b0uncerit depends10:08
_tmac_i donno why it worked when i did it a second time lol10:08
_tmac_exact same process10:08
_tmac_"x10:08
_tmac_:x10:08
b0uncerthen you can just run the recovery console and there run "fixmbr" that recovers the WinXP bootloader10:08
b0uncerafter this you can use the Windows tools to remove the Ubuntu partitions10:09
b0uncerfrom the Computer Management -window10:09
charlie5_tmac_: yeah, it happens :) ... good news it working :D ... i hate that sorta trubble ;)10:09
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_tmac_yeah I dunno10:09
_tmac_i was really hoping i could do it without reinstalling entirely10:09
b0uncerif you don't run "fixmbr" from the WinXP recovery console but just remove Ubuntu, you are unable to boot any OS since GRUB gets broken10:09
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_tmac_my grub is broken on my windows drive, that's kinda funny10:10
_tmac_but it's a different physical drive10:10
_tmac_I have to fix that, next10:10
_tmac_lol10:10
IRCMonkeyXbouncer: i have that bad grub thing10:10
charlie5_tmac_: reinstalling's a pain in the arse, but it usually cures all ... usually :)10:10
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b0uncerIRCMonkeyX: what's "bad" in it? :)10:10
_tmac_well10:10
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_tmac_i think reinstalling is easy10:10
_tmac_i have a live cd for ubuntu10:10
_tmac_so I just play mahjongg10:10
_tmac_and it does its thing10:10
_tmac_lol10:11
b0uncerhaha :)10:11
IRCMonkeyXgrub: i lost my data cause of grub, my windows was ntfs, i couldnt get my data :(10:11
_tmac_:)10:11
charlie5_tmac_: yeah, the install is ok ... its the customisation afterwards thats no fun10:11
_tmac_I can access my NTFS data from my windows hdd10:11
_tmac_and my windows hdd's grub is also messed up10:11
_tmac_ya, i know what you mean :x10:11
_tmac_lol10:11
_tmac_I have fast internet thoguh so updates are pretty quick10:11
charlie5yep, fast net helps ... i've just switched from 33k dialup to 521k bband :D10:12
b0uncerIRCMonkeyX: grub is just a bootloader. It works as far as you don't remove it's files, and if you want to get rid of it, you need to install another bootloader. Getting the XP bootloader back is a matter of a short moment10:12
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charlie5oops 512k10:13
Chousukecharlie5: heh.10:13
b0uncerif you press F8 during boot, before Windows starts, you should get the Windows boot prompt, and if that list has "Recovery console" you're fine..or if you have the XP install cds from which you can boot and get the same thing10:13
ChousukeI don't consider 512 so fast anymore :P10:13
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Chousukebut when I first got from dialup to 256, it felt like the fastest thing ever. :D10:14
b0uncereven if you managed to break grub, and was unable to boot XP, it's not a problem since you can just use the XP install cds or a boot disk to run fixmbr which gets you out of trouble10:14
b0uncerclaudiu: hi :)10:14
charlie5Chousuke: :) ... its pure joy compared to the old ;)10:14
b0uncerChousuke: me neither after getting a 10MB connection (yes, you read it right)10:14
IRCMonkeyXbouncer: thank you very much10:14
ChousukeMy current connection can do 5MB/s sometimes, but it needs a good server10:15
b0uncerIRCMonkeyX: no problem :) if you have more questions, just ask...I'm going to make some tea but will be back in a minute10:15
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b0uncer-->10:15
IRCMonkeyX:) i will10:15
Chousukemostly I just get 600kB-1MB/s10:15
charlie5what does making a partition active mean ... is that the partition which gets checked 1st for a bootloader ?10:15
Chousukewhich is good enough for me10:15
b0uncer<--10:16
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charlie5i install kubu to a different partition and made it the active one ... now i think my bootloader is coming from there ?10:16
b0uncercharlie5: I think it's the thing that tells Windows from which partition to boot from10:16
b0uncerbut I don't think Linux uses that10:16
b0uncerthough I'm not 100% sure so you'll want to check it from somebody else :)10:17
b0uncerand if you installed Kubuntu, you probably installed grub to MBR so the active partition doesn't matter10:18
charlie5b0uncer: thanks, i dunno much about bootloaders/partitions ... just enuff to make me very nevous when i play with 'em :)10:18
b0uncerheh :)10:18
jpiccolowhat would be the file path to a mounted dvd10:18
b0uncerjpiccolo: probably /media/dvd or /media/cd10:18
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jpiccoloi cant cd to it10:19
b0uncerit depends but you'll see it if you issue the command "mount" (just that word) in console10:19
b0uncermount tells you all the mounted filesystems and where they are mounted10:19
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b0uncerin addition you need read rights in order to cd to the place10:19
jpiccolowould it be varlock -ed10:20
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berkesmornin'10:42
berkesdoes anyone here know how I can find out what port(s) samba uses?10:42
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berkesI want to map the ports in my router to my local smb server, but cannot find any details10:43
Morticehttp://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2002-January/036471.html10:43
Morticetop result on a web search.10:43
berkesnetbios?10:43
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Mortice...yes.10:43
berkesI grepped that file for smb and samba, but would have never tought to look for netbios :)10:44
Kamping_Kaiserberkes, it uses standard widnows file sharing ports10:44
Kamping_Kaiserhehe.10:44
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berkesKamping_Kaiser: Mortice thanks!10:52
Kamping_Kaiserberkes, np. gl with it10:52
berkesgl?10:53
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Kamping_Kaisergood luck10:55
Kamping_Kaiserbut bbl10:55
danilocabattoir: bro, there?10:55
daniloc!seen asset10:56
ubotuI haven't seen asset recently10:56
daniloc:(10:56
danilocsing for the moment10:56
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b0uncerhey wait a minute where's KDE 3.5.4 I'm having 3.5.2. as said by the "About" dialog?11:01
b0uncerhave I missed something?11:01
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Jucatoresurrexit11:02
berkesnot so good luck :(. does anone know if lsof -i tells what potr something uses?11:02
Jucatonani?11:02
berkess/potr/port/11:02
Jucatowakarimasen...11:02
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Jucatob0uncer: KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper?11:02
b0uncerJucato: yeah that's what the topic says11:03
plugshi, i'm trying to copy files over a network to my machine. i get this dialog: "Please enter authorization information for: Server: owner Share: C"11:03
Jucatob0uncer: unless you absolutely need to, I'd suggest upgrading to KDE 3.5.3 instead. KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper is quite buggy..11:03
Jucatowell, just some annoying bugs. but still workable and usable11:04
b0uncerJucato: ok..what kind of bugs for example?11:04
b0uncerbut anyway, I'm having 3.5.2 is there anything really "new" in 3, or should I just pass it11:04
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plugsWhat "authorization information" should i enter when copying my files over a network? it asks for a username and password.11:06
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Jucatobugs in KDE 3.5.4 (on Dapper only): KPersonalizer starting up every login (can be "fixed"), some problems with HAL (removable devices and storage media), System Settings crashing when accessing Command Shortcuts tab in Keyboard Shortcuts, Power Savings resets to Enabled and 30 mins upon restart11:06
b0uncerok11:06
b0uncerso I won't be updating11:07
b0uncerthanks :)11:07
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b0uncergotta go, thanks everyone and have a nice day \p11:07
plugsAnyone? =] 11:08
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roconnorYesterday I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper on my Thinkpad X40.  Now Fn-F4 no longer suspends-to-ram :(  But I can suspend by using the menu on the battery monitor icon.11:08
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bobbinplugs: that should depend on the other devices in the network and how they are set up.11:09
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plugsbobbin what do you mean?11:10
bobbinplugs: Have you set each machine up with different logins?11:10
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plugsthe machine i want to copy from is a windows machine and doesnt have a password11:11
andreaciao a tutti11:11
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bobbinhttp://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Migrating-Vista-using-Windows-Easy-Transfer.html11:13
bobbinhttp://digg.com/security/Hacking_Into_Almost_Any_Windows_XP_Machine_With_Just_A_Few_Tricks11:13
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bobbinplugs: regarding windows, I don't know. Maybe it's asking you to type your password (like sudo) before trying to reach the other machine.11:15
cox377is there any know issues with reinstalling windows are a kubuntu install?11:15
plugsright. well i tried typing my password i use for sudo, and i tried typing my windows username without a password too, so i don't know.11:16
plugsi'll hassle with it later. it's 2:15 AM here.11:17
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bobbinplugs: does it ask for user/password or just password? (Sleep well.)11:17
plugsusername and password.11:17
bobbinplugs: did you try "" (no password)?11:17
plugsnot sure what you mean11:18
bobbinjust hit enter/return11:18
bobbinno user no pass11:18
cox377Anyone?11:18
plugsi dont think i tried leaving both empty11:18
bobbinSorry I can't help more than that.11:18
plugsthat didn't work11:18
bobbin:-|11:18
plugsWhat a mystery!11:18
bobbinGood luck!11:19
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plugsThanks for trying =]  i'm out.11:19
bobbinbye11:20
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cox377is there any know issues with reinstalling windows after a kubuntu install?11:22
cox377is there any known issues with reinstalling windows after a kubuntu install?**11:22
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frojndcox377 if u still have NTFS partition there shouldn't be a problem11:23
cox377nah11:23
cox377its had kubuntu for quite a while11:23
gogetaanyone try looking glass yet11:23
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frojndjust ext3?11:23
cox377frojnd: yeh, i pop the windows cd in and it tells me11:24
frojndcox37711:24
frojndfdisk11:24
frojndwat it tells?11:24
frojndwhat*11:24
cox377frojnd: boot cd-rom type: non emulation booting11:24
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cox377frojnd: thats when trying to boot from the windows CD11:25
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frojndu should learn fdisk11:25
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frojndand make a fat32 partition11:25
cox377frojnd: where do i run fdisk?11:25
frojndor even NTFS if linux support that11:25
frojndconzole11:25
cox377Ummm11:26
skilleti am not longer able to login in to kde.. the kpanel keeps crashing. anyone have any idea how what is causing this and how i can attempt to fix it11:26
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cox377frojnd: to delete the etxx partition?11:26
frojndwell, there is a prob11:26
frojndI wasn't making anything like this before..11:27
frojndI can just tell u what should u do11:27
frojndbut commands u wil lhave to learn by yourself or keep looking for help here :S11:27
frojndhow many partitions do u have?11:28
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cox377frojnd: just 1 partition11:28
frojndcox377: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3174/3/11:28
frojnd:S11:28
cox377frojnd: you would have thought windows would just boot from cd and delete the partition, it's not even booting the cd11:29
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frojndcouse windows don't know ext311:29
frojndI think..11:29
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TrackilizerI just did a "apt-get install kubunut-desktop" but KDE looks rather boring. Can anyone suggest a few themes or icons one can use?11:31
frojndcox377 I wish I could help u with this, but I wasn't doing something like that before..11:31
cox377frojnd: but just booting from CD wouldn't need to touch the HDD would it, just googling looks like a lot of people have this prob, not specifically linux related11:31
frojndcox377 when PC starts keep pressing DELITE11:32
frojndand u must set in sector "general or sth" boot form CD11:32
frojndfrom*11:32
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cox377frojnd: yeh man, that's all set up, it looks to CD but just doenst like it11:33
frojndhm11:33
frojndeither CD is scratched or u'll have to delite entire partition where linux are installed11:34
frojndand format it into fat3211:35
frojndcouse fat32 is readable by wins11:35
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TrackilizerCan anyone suggest a few Themes and Icons to make KDE look a little more "interesting" than it looks like when you first install kubuntu.11:37
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Healottry Windows XP or Windows Vista theme?11:42
TrackilizerWhere can i find the Vista theme?11:42
Healoti don't have any idea, but you can always look at kde-look11:43
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TrackilizerOk, I'll try that.11:44
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inc|freakyhi all. does anyone use edgy with a ati graphics card? i just cant get it to work :( i need the standard way of kubuntu how to install them. i tried the drivers from ati.com but it doesnt work.11:47
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chrismirHow can I add a new locales to my system?11:52
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Dannilionhummm11:53
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schrdchrismir: install kde-i18n-$lang11:56
chrismirschrd: Thx, but that is not what I meant. I'm trying `sudo locale-gen nl_NL.UTF-8` now, so that php will show the date in dutch format11:57
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chrismirI just can't seem to get apache2 restarted now :(11:58
schrdchrismir: dpkg-reconfigure locales11:58
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chrismirschrd: That was the first thing I did, but it just regenerates an existing list of locales11:59
chrismirtrying to restart apache now, to test the locale-gen thing, but I get an error on restarting (/etc/init.d/apache2 restart)12:00
chrismirapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName12:00
chrismirhttpd (pid 4694?) not running12:00
chrismirthough it is running12:01
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schrdHow can I reuse my kicker menu, which I created on our previous terminal server (Debian, KDE 3.3) in Kubuntu dapper? I copied all the KDE kiosk configuration stuff, it works, except for the kicker menu. Anyone got an idea where to look?12:03
schrdit seems to ignore /etc/xdg/menus/* completely12:03
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chrismiryay... got locale working now: sudo locale-gen nl_NL && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload12:15
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cox377whats the best app out there for burning12:18
Jucatok3b :)12:19
cox377something to burn iso's etc12:19
cox377jacato: cheers12:19
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berkes|afkdoes anyone know where I should look (for) if I want a smb/samba server to be accessible no the www?12:30
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franckright click on your folder --> properties and click on share12:33
franckyou can edit /etc/smb.conf too :o)12:33
francksorry the right path is /etc/samba/smb.conf :o)12:34
h3sp4wnThat doesn't make it accessible on the www though (I don't think)12:35
h3sp4wnTo me that implies some sort of web interface to the files12:36
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ubuntusalut12:38
eolsalut ubuntu12:38
ubuntusalut eol12:39
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francklut12:44
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francktry "public file server" maybe.12:45
franckit's a kde Appet12:45
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Jucatoanyone know of a guide to share files with XP on VMWare? Complete networking and Samba noob here... :(12:48
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_blu3rayhi was installing vncserver on kubuntu and and got it working.. but connects to console type window.. is it possible to connect to the full gui?12:49
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Philipp_hello all12:53
Philipp_Im want to install qtparted12:54
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Philipp_but can not find  something to add to the sources.list12:54
Philipp_can someone help12:54
insanekanehey ... does anyone know if dapper can be installed on SATA drives ?12:54
Philipp_where can I get a dapper version of qtparted?12:55
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Jucato!qtparted12:55
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB12:55
Philipp_yes I have it in list but its not installable?12:56
Philipp_its reference by another source12:56
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Philipp_but which source ?12:56
fildomorning ppl12:56
eolinsanekane: yes.12:57
eollo fildo12:57
Philipp_afaik the package should be in univers12:57
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Philipp_I have such entry in sources list but can not get the software12:58
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abattoirPhilipp_: did you 'Fetch Updates' ?01:02
abattoiror 'sudo apt-get update' ?01:02
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Philipp_yes I did an update01:06
Philipp_Its referenced by another source01:06
Philipp_dont know where to get it01:06
JucatoPhilipp_: is the main repository enabled?01:06
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abattoirPhilipp_: is that the exact message? if it isnt, could you please paste it, or pastebin your   /etc/apt/sources.list file?01:06
abattoir!pastebin01:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:06
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felix_eriddell: koffice-latest does still point to koffice-152. please update. thanks.01:10
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Philipp_okay: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2330901:11
abattoirfelix_e: sorry to butt in, but isnt 1.5.2 the last stable release?01:11
felix_eabattoir: yes. thats what koffice-stable is for :)01:12
abattoirPhilipp_: hmm, you dont have main anywhere(for dapper)01:12
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abattoirPhilipp_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2331001:13
RogueXHello everyone..01:13
claudiuhi all01:14
RogueXabattoir: How are you?01:14
abattoirfelix_e: ok, makes sense :P01:14
abattoirhi RogueX :), i'm fine? you?01:14
RogueXIs anyone getting a program called "checkinstall" continuely showing up in Adept Update but not resolving???01:15
claudiui have an old nac 7600 and i would like to use a pci vga card on it. I just dont know how to accomplish this because the mac does not activate the card when booting01:15
RogueXabattoir: Good, I have been out a little while.. hence my lack of questions here...  (grin)01:15
claudiudoes anyone here have a knowledge with Macs ?01:16
Philipp_timeout reaching de.archive.ubuntu.com:8001:20
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abattoirRogueX: hehe, ther have been others though, filling your void :P01:20
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RogueXabattoir: Yea, but with you and the other couple of regulars here things seem to go quite smoothly  :)01:21
abattoirRogueX: yes, i've been a bit busy too, lately, Jucato is the man now :P01:23
RogueXabattoir: Cool...  this apt-get update bug is annoying me.. LOL01:24
abattoirRogueX: what's the bug?01:24
RogueXabattoir: getting a program called "checkinstall" continuely showing up in Adept Update but not resolving???01:25
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grothesk_Hi!01:25
grothesk_Can somebody tell me why there ist no update to Firefox 1.5.0.6 available for kubuntu?01:26
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Philipp_abatoir. also with your sources.list I can not get qtparted01:29
Philipp_how can I get qtparted?01:29
grothesk_Philipp_: apt-get install qtparted01:30
Philipp_but qtparted is not downloadable01:30
grothesk_It is located in main01:30
Philipp_I needf a source in my sources.list for qtparted , again, it tells me that its there is a reference for it ...01:31
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Philipp_its in database but I can not install01:31
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grothesk_Philipp_: sudo apt-get update01:32
abattoirRogueX: what about Adept? and apt-get?01:32
grothesk_I just installed qtparted, Philipp_01:32
abattoirPhilipp_: did you do an apt-get update?01:32
abattoirPhilipp_: a 'sudo apt-get update'01:33
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Philipp_yes I did apt-get update01:33
grothesk_apt-cache policy qtparted01:33
claudiuabattoir: do you happen to know some irc channel support for ubuntu on Macs ?01:33
Philipp_pakeet qtparted has no installation canditae is the answer01:33
Philipp_candidate^01:34
abattoirclaudiu: not sure on exists... what is the issue?01:34
abattoir*one01:34
grothesk_Philipp_: Do you use de.archive?01:34
Philipp_yes , and t5he server is not available01:34
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Philipp_should I try another archive?01:34
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abattoirPhilipp_: aah, then yes, please try another one...01:35
grothesk_Then delete the "de." in your sources list.01:35
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RogueXabattoir: If I upgrade checkinstall it will uninstall a program called "installwatch"   is that bad? or should I do it?01:35
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abattoirRogueX: well it must be replacing it or something... i dont think its bad...01:35
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Philipp_okay I tried the us archive server, the same01:36
Philipp_are all servers down?01:36
Philipp_what is going on?01:36
RogueXabattoir: ok I did it... so now adept is no longer complaining that I have uninstalled updates... :)01:36
abattoirwait, i'll see the paste again, maybe something is wrong there01:37
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abattoirPhilipp_: well, the links in the sources.list file look good01:37
grothesk_Philipp_: Just use 'archive', no location in front of it.01:38
abattoirRogueX: that's good :)01:38
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Philipp_hey , thanks !! using no country codes in sources.list did the trick!01:39
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RogueXabattoir: Thanks.. it was one of those things I wasn't shure about it because updater normally applies them and this on it wouldnt unless I uninstalled the other program first01:40
abattoirRogueX: i think it was awaiting your confirmation for the removal of that package :)01:40
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RogueXabattoir: I think so too..  but normally thats not what happens on update..01:41
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abattoirRogueX: one of the first thing i do after a fresh install is remove it, so i dont know much :P01:42
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claudiuabattoir: I just got a Mac 7600 and I want to connect a pc monitor to it, but this mac does not have a vga connector. So I wanted to use an old PCI vGA card i had in the house01:43
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RogueXabattoir: what do you remove Adept updater??01:44
claudiuabattoir: and it does not activate it on boot01:44
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escayi could need a little advice on how to install my scanner. it is a HP DeskJet F380 AllinOne Printer with integrated scanner which is reckognized by sane-find-scanner01:49
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abattoirescay: ok, open up kooka, and it should recognise it...01:54
abattoirescay: if it doesnt, then i guess we'll have to install some stuff...01:54
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abattoirescay: but just try... K-Menu->Graphics->Kooka01:54
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gmalexhi visik7 :)02:04
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rodhi, i'm running kubuntu on a laptop, and am trying to get sound to work at the moment.  alsa is installed and seems fine and i can play sound via the heaphones, but don't hear anything from the laptops speakers?  i've found a few things that have reccomended trying to turn varuous things on and off but i've had no luck with this yet, any ideas?  thanks02:17
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abattoirrod: basic question, but have you increased the volume levels for all the output 'options' in the mixer ?02:19
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gavinneeds help02:19
gavinsudo update-flashplugin02:19
abattoirrod: also, if you have windows(or another distribution), does the speaker work there?02:19
gavinany idea what is this "sudo update-flashplugin". where do I key in t his from?02:19
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wayne_morning all02:20
abattoirgavin: its a command which fetches and installs the latest version of flash...02:20
rodabattoir: yes i have increased the volume on every setting i could find (alsa, kmix, and xmms), and yes i dual boot with windows and the sound is fine there.  :-/02:20
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abattoirgavin: you enter it in a terminal Kmenu->System->Konsole02:20
abattoirrod: which laptop?02:21
abattoirrod: or rather, the model, make etc.02:21
rodit's an LG xnote p202:21
abattoirrod: were you the one asking about the02:21
abattoirpipe key yesterday?02:21
rodyes!  and i sorted that by using xmodmap.  :D02:21
rod(i now have pipe, sterling, and my at sign in the right (british) place!)02:22
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gavinabattoir : I'm using Ubuntu 6.0602:23
rod(it's a pretty sweet laptop by the way, or it will be when i get these last few issues sorted out)02:23
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gavinabattoir : is it under Applications>Accessories>Terminal?02:23
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MetaMorfoziSanybody please tell me a godd mirror for central europe for edgy knot 2 (with kde)02:25
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gavinabattoir : thanks for your time.... its lagging...I'm gettin out of here02:26
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MetaMorfoziSanybody please tell me a godd mirror for central europe for edgy knot 2 (with kde)02:28
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rod hi, i'm running kubuntu on a laptop, and am trying to get sound to work at the moment.  alsa is installed and seems fine and i can play sound via the heaphones, but don't hear anything from the laptops speakers?  i've found a few things that have reccomended trying to turn varuous things on and off but i've had no luck with this yet, any ideas?  thanks02:32
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Gerrit_hi02:34
saxtonhi! I'm having problems setting up a printer to print to a remote ipp server02:35
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saxtonI have a server which has a printer attached to it, and two clients - on one of the clients, printing works fine, on the other, printing stopped working after apt-get upgrading02:35
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arunkalehello people02:36
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saxtonthe first error I got while trying to re-setup printing was "unable to find driver", which was fixed with the cleanup drivers command (I've forgotten the name)02:36
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saxtonafter doing that, the printer was setup successfully, but now the server doesn't accept jobs from this client02:37
saxtonexample error log: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aqlFVj85.html02:37
saxtonthe client was setup using the printer wizard in kcontrol02:37
halfbloodprincecan anyone tell me an irc channel where i can get some advice on open source CMSes02:38
saxton(the error log is on the server side)02:38
saxtonanyone have any ideas how to fix this?02:39
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rolandohey where can i ask somebody about easyjet?02:41
frojndwhy my vi editor doen't wanna save my override?02:41
rodeasyjet?!?!?02:41
frojndcan anyone help me with this02:41
rolandorod: tak, you know low cost ariline02:42
rolando*airline02:42
rodyeah i know the airline, they're crappy.02:42
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rolandorod but i want to know something02:42
rolandoabout credit card02:42
rolandothose morons wont pick up the phone nor answer m emails02:42
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rodsounds like easyjet, ha.02:43
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BluesKajHowdy all02:45
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Gerrit_halfbloodprince: there exists a website http://www.opensourcecms.com/ I don't know whether they have an irc channel02:46
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halfbloodprinceGerrit_: yeah, i'm checking out the web site as we speak.. i just wanted some first-hand tips :)02:47
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wayne_can anyone tell me why i cant see dvdisaster in my menus? i apt-get and installed it from command line02:49
Vegeta^Why is it that when I close my laptop (not shutting off) and when I open op it again, the screen stays shut down, that is "a pure black screen". How can I solve this?02:49
chavohalfbloodprince, I used to be on the dev team for e107, it's pretty nice02:49
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halfbloodprincechavo: e107? can you tell me some more?02:50
[GuS] Hi people!, someone knows to solve keyboard problem with xgl/compiz?02:50
chavohalfbloodprince, it's there at opensourcecms.com or http://e107.org02:50
xwolf-i've managed to put Shell number 1 in konsole with transparent scheme. but whenever i open a new shell, with ctrl+alt+n, the scheme is white over black. how do i make the transparent scheme default for all tabs i open in konsole?02:50
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halfbloodprinceyeah, checking it out..02:51
[GuS] i am usign spanish keyboard Genius KB-21e Scroll02:51
saxtonxwolf-: in konsole, click on Settings | Save as Default02:51
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egarimhow could i allow my user to manage www pages in /var/www ?02:52
chavoxwolf-, open up the konsole settings and go to the session tab02:52
chavoyou need to set the deafult for the "Shell" session02:52
lupine_85xwolf-: in settings somewhere, you can select the default session02:52
lupine_85snap and crackle ;)02:52
chavoeach session can have a different scheme02:52
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pierre___hi02:53
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PiRi've a question02:53
PiRabout KDE02:53
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ahmadwhy i have some packages in Adept gray-lighted (Disabled)... and how can enable them?02:54
Gerrit_halfbloodprince: I'm not using a cms. I coded the things i wanted for my small website on my own. But I heard that drupal is a nice one.02:56
PiRis it possible to separate the panel ?02:56
JucatoPiR: it's possible to make a new panel02:56
chavoPiR, yes you can add more panels02:56
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Jucatoright-click on the panel > Add New Panel > Panel02:56
Jucatoplace it anywhere you want, in any size you want, and with any applet you need...02:57
Jucatoexcept the System Tray applet, because "there can only be one"...02:57
PiRright click : i can add a new applet or application but no panel02:58
PiRo yes02:58
Jucato:)02:58
PiRi've seen02:58
PiRthanks02:58
chavoPiR, you can middle click and drag applets from one to the other02:58
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halfbloodprincehey Jucato :)02:59
Jucatohi halfbloodprince! :)02:59
xwolf-chavo i did what you said, but shells from number 2 and forward aren't transparent.02:59
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halfbloodprinceI'm on Kubuntu :)03:00
Jucatonice :D03:00
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Jucatoxwolf-: in shell #1 (the one with the modified settings/transparencies), did you choose "Save as Default" ?03:01
xwolf-Jucato yeap.03:02
Jucatohm...03:02
halfbloodprinceI need a CMS that can let users register and avail of the 'interactive' sections of the website.. also one that is easy to theme.. any ideas?03:02
egarimif i add my user to www-data group it shoul be allow to edit /var/www correct ? but i still get permission denied03:02
Vegeta^Why does the laptop screen stays black when I close and then open the lid?03:02
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berkeshalfbloodprince: Drupal. completely biased, becuase I develop it to :)03:02
halfbloodprinceberkes: is Drupal easy to theme? I've heard it's hard03:03
berkeshalfbloodprince: define easy. :)03:03
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gan|y|medhi03:03
halfbloodprinceWell, i'm used to creating advanced themes in WordPress.. for magazine sites, etc03:03
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berkeshalfbloodprince: Drupal is a framework, Wordpress a blog-tool.03:04
berkesif wordpress===easy, then Drupal == far too hard for you :)03:04
Jucatojoomla?03:04
Jucatojust heard of that one...03:04
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Gerrit_joomla is a fork of mambo, right?03:05
berkesJucato: it even harder to theme, since it has most HTML hardcoded in its core03:05
berkesGerrit_: it is03:05
xwolf-Jucato fact: when i open scheme configuration and select the "Transparent, Dark Background" (translation from pt_BR), the checkbox to the right isn't checked.03:05
Jucatoah03:05
halfbloodprinceso which cms is easy to theme03:05
berkeshalfbloodprince: define easy03:05
halfbloodprinceberkes: easy = I can create my own XHTML/CSS template, and include template tags for various functions03:06
berkeshalfbloodprince: then there is none ;03:06
berkes:)03:06
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Jucatoxwolf-: have you tried restarting Konsole?03:07
halfbloodprinceor at least a cms which has good, easily customisable themes available03:07
berkeshalfbloodprince: you might find some deticated apps (like wordpress for blogging) but certainly not a CMS03:07
xwolf-Jucato several times.03:07
Jucatohmm... that's really strange...03:07
halfbloodprinceberkes: okay, i'm willing to settle for a cms which has good, easily customisable themes available..03:09
Jucatoxwolf-: ok let's try it one more time... close konsole and launch it.. go to Settings > Schema > Transparent, Dark Background.03:09
Jucatoxwolf-: then Settings > Save as Default03:09
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chavothat will make it default for the "Linux Console" session, but not the Shell session03:10
chavojust do what I said03:10
xwolf-wow. it started transparent. then i clicked "Transparent, Dark Background" and it wasn't transparent anymore lol.03:11
berkeshalfbloodprince: if that was your definition of "easy", there is no such CMS available as OSS.03:11
halfbloodprinceberkes: how is postnuke?03:11
berkeshahaha03:12
Jucatochavo: I think the default "New" (Ctrl+Alt+N) is New Shell, not New Linux Console03:12
berkesthat is beyond nineties03:12
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chavoexactly03:12
berkeshalfbloodprince: this is rather OT, so have a look here and let it rest :) http://www.cmsmatrix.org/03:12
halfbloodprinceokay, sorry03:13
xwolf-Jucato even though clicking dark background got me a white over black lookNfeel, i saved as default. next step?03:13
PiRwhat are differences between shell and Linux Console03:13
PiR?03:13
JucatoPiR: I have no idea :D03:13
Vegeta^How do I configre acpid so that my laptop screen doesn't stay black when I open the lid.03:13
berkeshalfbloodprince: NP03:13
PiRterminal shell or console, i've never seen difference03:13
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Jucatoxwolf-: or try a Schema that is more... noticeable, like Transparent, Light Background? then Save as Default. after that, try launching a new session (Ctrl+Alt+N)03:13
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halfbloodprinceI'm not being able to make Firefox my default browser03:14
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Jucatoxwolf-: or maybe it's not working because you're starting in a different "mode", but launching a new Shell session when pressing Ctrl+Alt+N... not really sure...03:15
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Jucatohalfbloodprince: what do you mean?03:15
xwolf-Jucato here's what happens. i save light bground as default, then open a new session and it comes white over black03:16
xwolf-i mean, i think it's not white but gray O_o03:16
halfbloodprinceJucato: I checked the 'check to see if firefox is the default browser' in edit > preferences03:16
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PiRi've read we can install KDE AND Gnome with choice in the boot of the kernel, is there an interest03:16
PiR?03:16
halfbloodprincebut firefox doesn't check.. and if i click the 'check now' button, nothing happens03:16
Jucatohalfbloodprince: well, that doesn't work in Linux :P03:16
JucatoPiR: not at boot, but at the login screen03:17
halfbloodprinceJucato: what do i do then03:17
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PiRyes scuze03:18
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Jucatohalfbloodprince: in System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications > Web Browser03:18
PiRthere is an interest ?03:18
halfbloodprinceah okay, thanks03:18
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JucatoPiR: what do you mean by "there is an interest"?03:18
PiRan advantage ?03:19
halfbloodprinceJucato: thanks03:19
PiR(i'm french and my level in english isn't very good)03:19
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zinfacterhow come I can't change any of my shared file settings03:21
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JucatoPiR: btw, have you visited the French Ubuntu/Kubuntu channel?03:22
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PiRyes but there are never nobody03:23
PiR:(03:23
Jucatoah03:23
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Gerrit_PiR: the advantage is you can try out both desktop environments. and if other people use your computer there is a chance that everybody can use his favorite environment03:23
PiRok thanks03:24
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PiRand for the programmes, are there conflicts ?03:24
Jucatothe disadvantage would be you'd have to do a bit of work to keep your menus clean...03:24
JucatoPiR: no conflicts.03:24
JucatoGNOME uses its own libraries, and KDE uses its own03:24
PiR^^03:24
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Gerrit_you can even use gnome programs within kde and vice versa03:25
Gerrit_actually it's only a matter of taste03:26
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Glj12hi03:29
Glj12hi all03:30
Glj12anyone around?03:30
Jucatocan anyone point me to a guide in setting up Samba in Kubuntu so that I could share files with XP on VMWare? <---- total Samba/Networking noob...03:30
Glj12when i try to start up kubuntu, it does all the lines loading [ok] , then after that, it just shows kubuntu logo, and hangs there forever.03:30
Glj12ideas why, and how to possibly fix this?03:30
Glj12like, i can boot into recovery mode, it fully loads. but when i type startx it doesn't load it up, it just flashes for a second03:31
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JucatoGlj12: did you recently install something? like NVIDIA drivers? or a kernel upgrade?03:32
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wayne_could someone point me to the right docs on how to ssh into my linux box from a windows box remotely and copy files from/to it?03:32
Glj12nope03:32
Glj12thats what sounded weird to me03:32
Glj12b/c i haven't done anything03:32
Glj12i was only retrieving packets for a file as usual, nothin special03:33
Glj12i've been doin that on and off for 2 weeks now03:33
JucatoGlj12: when you type startx, you'll be thrown back into the command line, but there will be some error messages as well. could you remember what those said?03:33
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Glj12i saw something in digg that said: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:33
Glj12sure, actually, let me do it now03:33
Glj12let me bring the laptop here, h/o03:33
JucatoGlj12: that was about a broken update a month ago. it has been fixed03:33
Glj12oh, alright03:35
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Glj12ok, i got the error...03:35
Glj12fatal server error:03:35
Glj12no screens found03:35
wayne_are you using a ATI video card?03:36
Glj12X10 fatal IO error 104 (Connection Reset by peer) on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.03:36
JucatoGlj12: try going through the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" process. of if you're using the proprietary NVIDIA drivers "sudo nvidia-glx"03:37
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Glj12just type that first line you said?03:37
Glj12ok03:37
Jucatoyeah "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:37
Glj12server-xorg is not installed03:38
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JucatoGlj12: it's "xserver-xorg"03:38
Jucatoyou forgot the "x"03:38
Glj12woopsy03:38
Glj12thanks03:38
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Glj12which server driver?03:39
Glj12i made it autodetect video03:39
Glj12vesa?03:39
JucatoGlj12: what's your video card?03:39
Glj12um... via03:39
Glj12its onboard the laptop03:39
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Jucatowhat was the default option highlighted? (I think it should be via or s3?)03:39
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Glj12before the options of vesa and sis?03:40
Glj12i had selected auto detect03:40
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rodhi, quick question, when i installed kubuntu there was a nifty tool that could resize partitions, can i get access to this now i have kubuntu installed from my desktop?03:40
JucatoGlj12: yes, but then in the choice of drivers, there will be an option that's selected by default03:40
abattoirrod: sure, its called qtparted03:40
Jucatohi abattoir! :)03:41
rodexcellent, thanks!03:41
abattoirrod: install it by executing 'sudo apt-get install qtparted'03:41
abattoirJucato: hi :)03:41
Glj12rofl, i just hit esc till it was gone. now its booting up kubuntu03:41
Glj12LOL03:41
abattoirJucato: sorry for leaving like that, my internet connection is being terrible :(03:41
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rodabattoir: yeah thanks, gonna go grab it now!03:41
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Jucatoabattoir: heh I'm used to it by now :D03:41
Jucatoj/k03:41
Glj12was that bad to do that? lol03:42
abattoirrod: werent you the person who asked about the mac dvi o/p ?03:42
rodabattoir: no, i was asking about my laptop speaker problem earlier03:42
abattoirrod: aah yes, you got that figured out?03:42
egarimhow could i add an user and allow him to use only ftp and not ssh ?03:43
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egarimi try with /bin/false for login but i get error also with proftpd03:43
rodabattoir: na, still no sound.  it's my last issue, then i'll have my laptop as i want it.  i just can't find any useful info now though. :-/03:43
Glj12Jucato: After hitting esc a lot, and rebooted into regular kubuntu, it works now, yay!!!!! thanks!03:43
Ashanty_Granpaegarim: what is the difference in ftp and ssh ?????????03:44
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wayne_could someone point me to the right docs on how to ssh into my linux box from a windows box remotely and copy files from/to it?03:44
Glj12i wonder why it did tha in the first place, oh well03:44
JucatoGlj12: heh you should have pressed Enter a lot :)03:44
abattoirrod: what's your 'current' issue then ? :P03:44
Jucatocan anyone point me to a guide in setting up Samba in Kubuntu so that I could share files with XP on VMWare? <---- total Samba/Networking noob...03:44
egarimAshanty_Granpa: ftp doesn't need a shell i guess03:44
egarimanyone could help ?03:44
halfbloodprinceJucato: I think i found the cms i'm looking for :D03:44
Jucatohalfbloodprince: good for you :D03:45
Glj12welll, it works now, oh well03:45
Glj12:P03:45
chavowayne_, do a google search for putty, it's a windows ssh client03:45
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Glj12yup03:45
lupine_85for copying files, you'll want psftp.exe03:45
Gerrit_wayne_: there is a windows program called winscp. that's a nice client03:45
rodabattoir:  well the sound thing.  i'm taking a break from it and cutting down the size of my windows partition for the moment.03:45
wayne_thank you03:45
Glj12yay wine + putty = fun!03:45
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halfbloodprinceJucato: it's called Typo303:46
halfbloodprinceand the documentation is brilliantly written03:46
Jucatohalfbloodprince: ah.03:46
rodabattoir: you didn't have any ideas on my sound problem did ya?03:47
abattoirrod: i think i was searching, when my i got d/c03:47
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abattoirrod: i'll tell you if i find anything :)03:47
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rodabattoir: cool, thanks i'd really appriciate that, it's bugging the hell out of me!03:48
Glj12um... one other quick question Jucato03:49
JucatoGlj12: yep?03:49
Glj12setting up this laptop with a projector, (having it show up on the projector)03:49
Glj12anything special i need to know? cause the I.T. guy there had no clue why it didnt work03:49
halfbloodprincebrb03:50
Jucatoerr.. sorry. I have no idea.. :(03:50
Glj12heh, its alright dude03:50
Glj12no worries, it was just that for my "Informative" speech, i was going to demonstrate how to crack WEP. :P03:50
Jucatoheh03:51
Glj12i guess i'll pass the laptop around or somethin, heeh03:51
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xwolf-Jucato back with that problem. i managed to put Black Over White as default for all tabs. But when doing the same thing with transparent - dark bground, the first one shows ok, but the others i open, even though in the settings->schema menu is checked that, it shows white over black.03:52
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xwolf-eww.. that was a bad sentence.03:54
PiRsomebody knows a irc channel (or server) with it is about music (guitar) spoken ?03:54
xwolf--> new tabs appear white over black, but settings->schema has "transparent, dark background" checked.03:55
PiR(scuze but i don't know irc)03:55
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PiR(there is a mode 'search')03:55
PiR?)03:55
xwolf-PiR irc channel with music lyrics?03:56
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PiRa channel to meet others musicians and to talk music (instrumental)03:57
Gerrit_PiR: there is the command /list which list all channels with a description03:57
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xwolf-PiR /list *search*03:57
PiRthanks03:58
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Dr_WillisHmm. Now this is diffrent..  saw a website with a 'corner' ad.. a little add in the top right corner in the shape of a triangle advertising things..  Only it was advertising Bras....04:02
Dr_Willisthought it was a porn at at first04:03
[GuS] people... sombody solve the problem of the keyboard map in xgl? (Kubuntu)04:03
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insparedesola a todos04:04
[GuS] insanekane, for spanish #Kubuntu-es04:04
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insparedessabes mas espaol?04:06
abattoir!es04:06
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:06
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NeoSaki|PurgatorHP F340...any help with getting the scanner function to work?04:09
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insparedes_!en04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
abattoirNeoSaki: try opening kooka04:10
insparedes_!es04:10
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:10
abattoirNeoSaki: might be recognized out of the box04:10
insparedes_!jp04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
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santihi!!!04:11
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insparedes_hi04:11
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santii checking my new kubuntu...04:12
insparedes_i recomended this04:12
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insparedes_add/delete programs ejecute this!04:12
insparedes_and04:12
santiyes?04:13
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insparedes_an select any suite04:13
santiwhere i find KDE???04:14
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insparedes_up04:14
insparedes_next to shearch04:14
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Vegeta^Where/how do I change the action of the power button?04:15
NeoSakihrm it states that i do not have SANE installed, but synaptic says I do...guess I gotta do a manual compile from source >_>04:15
santihablas espaol??04:15
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insparedes_si04:15
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insparedes_soy espaol04:15
insparedes_xD04:15
santiok.. yo tb04:15
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insparedes_yo complicandome la vida04:16
santivamos a ver estoy chateando en el konversation04:16
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insparedes_si04:16
insparedes_yo es la primera vez que lo uso04:16
santisi, la verad que esto es un lio, pero al final me cargue el windows y no me queda otra04:16
insparedes_pfff que pifiada04:16
insparedes_yo lo tengo en una particion04:17
santioye lo de kde... en kubuntu el entorno es kde...04:17
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ploobHello. qq connais un gestionnaire ftp comme gftp pr kde ?04:17
insparedes_ya pero no es eso04:17
insparedes_mira04:17
insparedes_metete en donde estaba inicio en la K04:17
santiyo lo tenia en una particion pero jugando con particiones en windows.. algo pas y el win se suicid...jejeje04:17
BonBonTheJonploob: kbear04:17
ploobok04:18
santisi vale.. ya estoy04:18
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insparedes_metete en aadir/eliminar programas04:18
Jucatoer....04:18
Jucato!es04:18
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:18
santiok04:18
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insparedes_vamos al es vale04:18
santiok... aver si loencuentro04:19
insparedes_!es04:19
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:19
insparedes_metete en el de kubuntu04:19
santibut yo can speak english too04:19
zorgluuuhere we go :)04:19
ungamedis there a way to list system information in the console?04:20
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insparedes_im 11 years old xD04:20
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santiinsparedes: re u there?04:20
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NeoSaki!sane04:20
ubotusane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB04:20
insparedes_mmm04:20
insparedes_!es04:21
zorgluuuungamed: what do you mjean by 'list of system information'04:21
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:21
insparedes_in kubuntu es click right04:21
santiok you said install aplicat....04:21
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insparedes_ans unirse04:21
ungamedzorgluuu: I mean like getting the output: This system is running a AMD K6-2 300Mhz with 96 Mb Ram etc..04:22
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insparedes_yes04:22
insparedes_in any suite04:22
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zorgluuuungamed: nothing as clear as that but you got plenty of info in /proc04:23
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zorgluuucat /proc/cpuinfo04:23
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insparedes_ablo mejor espaol xD04:23
zorgluuucat /proc/meminfo04:23
insparedes_me lio menos04:23
ungamedzorgluuu: aight, thx man04:23
insparedes_!es04:23
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insparedes_!es04:23
Gerrit_i'm offline. cu04:24
zorgluuuinsparedes_: can you please talk in english in this channel, or if you prefere spanish all the -es channel are nice too :)04:24
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insparedes_is for santi  he is not in channel kubuntu-es is here04:25
insparedes_nono04:25
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insparedes_bye04:25
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santiinsparedes... yet at kubuntu es... see there04:25
insparedes_ya lo vi04:26
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soulriderhi everyone =)04:29
soulriderMy Kubuntu D just arrived from Ship It!04:30
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Jucatoheh... just a month before Edgy is released :D04:30
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Jucato6.06 or 6.06.1?04:30
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soulriderlol yea04:37
soulrideruhm04:37
soulriderdunno =/04:37
soulriderlet me check04:37
emil_p8I have a severe Xserver crash on shutdown problem (it seems even the kernel locks, no ssh nor magic keys reboot sequence), appeared after the well-known update. The problem is it did not dissapear after the fixed x-server upgrade. Graphic card ati x700 pro. Anyone with the same problem?04:37
soulrider6.06 =(04:37
Jucatoah...04:37
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soulriderweird, i ordered it after 01 was released04:38
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Jucatomaybe they haven't updated the stocks yet when you ordered... or they're trying to send out all the 6.06 CD's first04:38
soulrideryea, probably04:38
soulriderill order edgy for me adn my friend when ti coems out04:39
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soulriderim downloading an Ubuntu eBook right now04:39
Jucatohmm... what eBook?04:39
noianohello04:39
soulrideruhm04:39
soulriderlet me get the name04:39
noianohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23322 can anyone of you explain the error?04:40
soulriderBeggining Ubuntu Linux from Novice to Professional04:40
Jucatosoulrider: isn't that book for sale (not free)?04:40
soulriderare you trying to compile ?04:41
NeoSakiOk, Kook didn't work, and SANE is now compiled/installed04:41
NeoSakiKook still doesn't work >_>04:41
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abattoirnoiano: you need to install glib04:41
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noianoabattoir the which is the package name? glib only?04:42
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sleepynico#pfsense'04:43
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abattoir!info libglib2.0-004:44
ubotulibglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB04:44
abattoirnoiano: ^^^ i think its that one04:44
noianook thanks04:45
abattoir!info libglib2.0-0-dev04:45
ubotuPackage libglib2.0-0-dev does not exist in any distro I know04:45
abattoir!info libglib2.0-dev04:45
ubotulibglib2.0-dev: Development files for the GLib library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 485 kB, installed size 1948 kB04:45
abattoirnoiano: ^^^ try installing that if it still complains04:45
insparedes_!INFO EMU04:45
ubotuPackage emu does not exist in any distro I know04:45
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NeoSakiAny help with a HP F340 scanner? HPLIP sees it, just has a I/O problem when trying to communicate04:46
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NeoSakiseems to be the one question there is no answer for >_>04:54
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arseniquedsa04:55
draikabattoir, did you find the script?04:56
draikJucato, how goes it?04:56
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Jucatohi draik! :)04:56
Jucatoback on Dapper :P04:56
abattoirdraik: hmm, give me a few mins. :P04:56
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draikok04:56
draikJucato, I'm finally seeing what I was doing wrong04:56
Jucatodraik: what was it?04:57
Ash-FoxSomething has been really bothering me ever since I switched to kubuntu, the windows key doesn't open KDE's menu, how does one configure that?04:57
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draikk9Copy can't autoburn, even though it has that option04:58
draikand it hasn't been supported since June 200504:58
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Jucatoeh?04:58
draikIts funny actually04:59
abattoirAsh-Fox: afaik it cant be done easily...04:59
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draikk9copy has the option to autoburn once its done, but it does it anyway right after its done reading a DVD anyway04:59
emil_p8Ash-Fox: Alt+F1. Dont' know of other solution, but in an old MEPIS the win key worked04:59
abattoirAsh-Fox: that key is used as a binding key...04:59
abattoirAsh-Fox: which means you can used it in combination w/ other keys(like in amarok)04:59
JucatoAsh-Fox: try Win+Space05:00
Jucato(but with Katapult... who needs K Menus? hehehehe)05:00
abattoirJucato: what does that do?05:00
abattoirJucato: you mean Alt+Space?05:00
Jucatosame as Alt+F1 irc05:00
Ash-Foxabattoir, it's annoying, most other distros, mandriva, suse, fedora etc. used it05:00
Ash-Foxwindows key + space doesn't work.05:00
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Jucatoah must have mapped it myself...05:01
Jucatosorry05:01
abattoirAsh-Fox: i dont know about that, but i think it is somehow used by KDE itself as a binding key...05:01
abattoirAsh-Fox: maybe Jucato can tell you how he mapped it05:01
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Jucatoabattoir: I don't know how to luanch K Menu with only the Win key...05:01
abattoirJucato: oh, you meant Win+Space...05:02
Jucatoer.... yes I did... :)05:02
abattoirAsh-Fox: i used to use the menu key to launch the kmenu05:02
emil_p8Ash-Fox: if you configure your shortcut scheme in kcontrol (win, kde style, etc,) maybe the win+something will open the menu as in WIndows05:02
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abattoirAsh-Fox: the one on the other side of the spacebar(meant for rt.click menus)05:02
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abattoiri've never really used it for its original purpose05:03
draikI have been used to win for quite some time. When I first switched to Kubuntu I pressed it maybe a few 10 times before I could remember, THIS WORKS, SO IT CAN'T BE WIN05:03
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abattoirAsh-Fox: should be under Regional...05:03
draik*THIS OS WORKS05:03
egarimhow could i add an user and allow him to use only ftp and not ssh ?05:04
trappistegarim: use an ftp server that maintains its own list of users (not system users)05:07
emil_p8Ash-Fox: regional/accesibility_keyboard shortcuts, set windows scheme and instead of alt F1 it'll be ctrl+esc, as in windows (it wasn't win+something, sorry)05:07
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zorgluuuegarim: or doesnt set any shell for this user05:07
egarimzorgluuu: alredy try05:07
egarimbut doesn't works05:08
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egarimi try with bin/false05:08
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Ash-Foxemil_p8, yeah, I'm going to still try to figure out how todo this though :P05:08
draikAsh-Fox, did you find anything... I think I might have your answer05:09
trappistegarim: I tried it that way but ftp didn't work with the shell set to /bin/false05:09
trappistwith pure-ftpd05:09
trappistwhich didn't make any sense to me05:09
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emil_p8Ash-Fox: well, would be nice if the win key alone could do it :-(05:09
menaceCould anyone recommend a nice C++ compiler for kubuntu linux please?05:10
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zorgluuu!build05:12
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:12
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Ash-Foxdraik, I found some answers, but not theanswer to getting the menu to popup with just the windwos key05:12
zorgluuumenace: this is g++05:12
Ash-Foxemil_p8, it can on other distros, so I know it's possible05:12
menacezorgluuu: could you explain?05:12
emil_p8Ash-Fox: right, in mepis as i said before05:13
zorgluuumenace: everybody uses the same c++ compiler on linux, and this is g++05:13
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menaceOk.05:13
h3sp4wnsome people use intel's compiler05:13
menaceWhat is that C++ compiler's name zorgluuu?05:13
zorgluuuok :) 1millions of pro use the intel one :)05:13
zorgluuumenace: g++ :)05:14
menaceAh sorry for my ignorance05:14
zorgluuuibm got one too :)05:14
zorgluuumenace: dont be sorry  :)05:14
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menaceWhich should i get? out of :g++, g++-2.95, g++-3.3, g++-3.4, and g++-4.005:17
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zorgluuumenace: 4.0 this is the last05:19
menaceok thank you zorgluuu05:19
zorgluuusome programm require 3.4 for compatibilities05:19
menaceso i should get both?05:19
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zorgluuuit is unlikly you need 3.405:20
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zorgluuuso up to you to see05:20
menacealright05:20
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zorgluuuor you get 4.0 and install 3.3 when you need it05:20
menaceok05:20
Sikonhow do I make the main menu open with the Windows key? KDE doesn't allow me to select it as a non-modifier key05:21
menacehow do you uninstall programs via the terminal?05:21
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Sikonmenace> sudo apt-get remove packagename05:22
menaceok thanks05:22
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freddirksehi all.  Anyone have some insight on software raid?05:22
emil_p8Ash-Fox: i'm gonna try this: http://opensource.weblogsinc.com/2005/05/27/miss-the-win-key-in-linux-use-kde/05:22
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NeoSakifreddirkse: what you need?05:22
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freddirkseNeoSaki: Raid1 setup.  Working fine for a month. I upgraded my kernel from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.15-26 amd64, and now I can't boot.  get "waiting for root file system" for awhile, then drops to shell because it can't find /dev/md1.  Can't roll back to my old kernel either...seg faults.  Not sure what I did.05:23
h3sp4wn2.6.12 is breezy 2.6.15 is dapper05:24
NeoSakifreddirkse: How'd you update it?05:24
freddirkseapt-get05:24
MetaMorfoziSbye all05:24
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freddirkseubuntu did all it's normal stuff in grub and moving the old kernel and initird...that's why i can't figure out why I can't boot to the old kernel now...05:25
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plooblu05:25
ploobJv l'exploser Kbear05:26
ploobIl marche pas -_-05:26
ploobVous avez pas un bon client ftp :( pr kde05:26
freddirkse...it did update the mkinitramfs while updating the kernel also.  could that hose it up?05:26
Sikonemil_p8> tried that, but the Windows key doesn't open the menu :(05:26
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zorgluuu!fr05:26
abattoir!fr05:26
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:26
abattoirdraik: around?05:26
zorgluuume first :)05:26
Sikon!ru05:26
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help05:26
abattoirzorgluuu: not on my screen :P05:26
ploob#kubuntu-fr05:27
zorgluuu:)05:27
qingquanHi everybody I'm Chinese05:27
draikI'm here05:27
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draikabattoir, I'm here05:27
NeoSaki!mkinitfs05:27
abattoirdraik: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{ print $2}' > pkglist05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mkinitfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
abattoirdraik: that will copy all the installed packages list to pkglist05:27
NeoSakinot sure what exactly mkinitfs does(never used it)05:28
emil_p8Sikon: tried it also,doesn't work. Maybe kubuntu modifies kde behaviour about modifiers, who knows05:28
draikThat works for me05:28
abattoirdraik: of course you can substitute pkglist w/ whatever you want...05:28
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freddirkseNeoSaki, is mkinitfs for me?05:28
NeoSakiyeah05:28
Sikonand I had no trouble using it in GNOME-Ubuntu05:28
Sikon:(05:28
abattoirdraik: cat pkglist | while read line; do apt-cache show "${line}"; done > showlist05:28
NeoSakifreddirksei dont know what it does05:28
NeoSakifreddirkse i dont know what it does05:28
freddirkse....k, I'll check on it quick and see...05:28
abattoirdraik: that reads from the first file and sends the show output to the second file 'showlist'05:28
abattoirdraik: hope that does what you want05:29
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abattoirdraik: tell me if it works for you05:29
freddirkse...quote: "ubuntu doesn't use mkinitfs it uses mkinitramfs"05:30
qingquansad05:30
draikwill do05:30
freddirkseinteresting05:30
menaceI just installed g++-4.0, but i cant find it anywhere, i even typed g++ in the terminal, and run command box, but it cant find g++...what have i done wrong?05:30
abattoirmenace: what do you need to do?05:30
menaceopen g++05:30
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NeoSakifreddirkse: i ment, the actual software05:30
NeoSakiI dont know what it actually is05:30
abattoirmenace: you installed it from the repos?05:31
menacei found it and installed it via adept05:31
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menacejust searched for it05:31
emil_p8Sikon, Ash-Fox: this, however, works: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/61123-windows-functionality-win-key.html05:31
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draikabattoir, that works, but this is what I was trying to compare it to... http://www.draikunderlord.com/long.list05:31
Ash-Foxemil_p8, thanks.05:32
Ash-FoxNot what I was looking for though.05:33
qingquanhi everyone05:33
abattoirdraik: your server is slow :(05:33
ubuntuirc://irc.rizon.net/1warez05:33
draikyeah, been having issues lately05:33
sleepynicohi all, I'd like to run ubuntu-server in vmware using the ubuntu-server kernel. this setup does not boot (1001 others having the same issue according to google). but noone seems to have a better idea than installing the desktop kernel. The real phun is that ubuntu-server is *supported* both as guest and host os by vmware (who do not provide an answer either). Any thoughts on this?05:34
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emil_p8Ash-Fox: yeah, personnaly won't use it because i like the default function which is like the right mouse click, and i'm getting pretty accustomed to alt F105:34
abattoirdraik: dont the commands which i gave you do just that?05:35
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draikyup, but not detailed05:36
draikonly the package name05:36
abattoirdraik: doh, run the second command05:36
abattoirdraik: read up properly05:36
draik*displays only the package name05:36
abattoirdraik: if you needed only package names, i could have given you the command then and there :P05:37
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draikI wanted with detail05:37
draikI hope cat pkglist | while read line; do apt-cache show "${line}"; done > showlist      will do it just like I had before05:38
Ash-Foxemil_p8, I use too many different platforms... I get confused very easilly with keybindings.. so :P05:38
Jucato!repos > Jucato05:38
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emil_p8Ash-Fox: well ctrl+esc works in win also. try changing your scheme to win with win modifier. anyway, before the win key appeared (~1995, methinks) ctrl+esc was the default.05:40
Hawkwind!repos > Hawkwind05:40
Ash-FoxWhat the heck is a meta key?05:41
h3sp4wndraik: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;-10} ${status;-25} ${Package}\n' | sort -n (That is what I use to get the package list)05:41
JucatoAsh-Fox: meta key = modifier key, a key that you press to modify the value of a key. like Shift, Ctrl, Alt05:41
draikabattoir, PERFECT!!!05:42
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abattoirdraik: :)05:42
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abattoirdraik: what happened the first time?05:42
draikfirst time?05:43
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abattoirdraik: yeah, when you said only the list was shown, not the full info05:43
draikright05:43
abattoirdraik: you didnt run the second command?05:43
draikit was only a list of the packages05:43
draikdidn't see the 2nd command, sorry05:44
abattoirdraik: ah, ok :)05:44
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draikabattoir, you're the best05:44
draikThanks05:44
abattoirdraik: you could put both into a file and call it list.sh or something05:44
draikyup05:44
abattoirdraik: haha, glad to be of help :)05:44
draikI added  > filename   so that I can see what I had before that I don't have now05:44
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livrehow do I install xmms?06:00
Hawkwindlivre: sudo apt-get install xmms06:00
Hawkwind!info xmms06:00
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB06:00
Hawkwindlivre: Make sure you have all your repos enabled correctly06:00
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dhqhow do i setup midi in mu sound device06:01
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livrebut do I have to download it first06:01
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livreHawkwind: or apt-get downloads it for me?06:02
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Hawkwindlivre: apt-get downloads it and installs it for you06:02
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livreHawkwind: it says it can find package06:02
Hawkwindlivre: Have you added all your repos first and done a sudo apt-get update ?06:03
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livreHawkwind: oh.. I don think so...06:03
Hawkwind!repos06:03
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:03
Hawkwindlivre: Read that URL there, it will help you with setting up your repos correctly06:03
livrethankyou!!!!06:04
HawkwindNo problem06:04
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arunkalelupine_85: you around?06:05
arunkalei downloaded and installed the baghira theme, how do i activate it?06:06
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lupine_85no idea :)06:07
lupine_85(just got back from the shop)06:07
abattoirarunkale: which 'part' of the theme?06:07
abattoirarunkale: there is a windeco, a widget style, a kicker applet etc.06:07
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arunkaleabattoir: i downloaded it using adept06:08
abattoirarunkale: yes, i know06:08
arunkaleso i guess all of it?06:08
Pensacolawhen will the new konversation be available for kubuntu?06:09
abattoirarunkale: go to kcontrol/system settings06:09
arunkaleyeah06:09
abattoirarunkale: and look for 'Style' and 'Window Decoration'06:09
arunkaleokay06:09
abattoirarunkale: for the kicker applet rt. click on the kicker->Add applet->Baghira Start menu(i think its called)06:09
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jatoshi06:10
arunkaleokay..06:10
arunkalethanks06:10
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BluesKajwhat's the command for upgrading the kde vers ?06:10
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jatosapt-get upgrade kdebase06:11
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jatosshould do it BluesKaj06:11
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h3sp4wnBluesKaj: do you have kde-latest in sources.list ?06:11
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Pensacolahow to add it? (I'm following this one too :))06:13
BluesKajyes06:13
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arunkaleah doe06:14
arunkaledone06:14
BluesKajoops, thot i had  broken pkg in user groups, but now it's ok06:14
arunkaleyay thanks06:14
arunkaleare there better themes than this?06:14
linnuxxyhow can i install kdevelop on 6.06?06:14
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h3sp4wn!info kdevelop306:14
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB06:14
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abattoirarunkale: you wanted a 'mac osx' theme... it doesnt get better than baghira06:15
arunkaleabattoir: yeah, i dont mind browsing through others as well :)06:16
Ash-Foxarunkale, could try kde-styles.net or was it .com06:16
abattoirarunkale: then kde-look.org is the place06:16
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BluesKajwhat about this ? .. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"..  ? for upgrading the kde version ...mine is 3.5.4 ...guess that's the latest one , correct ?06:18
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Dr_Willisthat should upgrade to the latest one in the repos06:19
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Dr_Willistheres the kubuntu-testing  repos i think that may have a newer version06:19
AWOSDevI need help with, uh, anything torrent-related06:19
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Dr_WillisAWOSDev, gee.. how specific. :P06:20
AWOSDevAzureus is buggy, KTorrent won't run, and I can't find any other programs.06:20
Dr_Williswhy wont ktorrent run?06:20
AWOSDevterminate called after throwing an instance of 'bt::Error'06:20
AWOSDevKCrash: Application 'ktorrent' crashing...06:20
AWOSDevThat's all I get on stderr06:21
Dr_Willisthats interesting06:21
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AWOSDevthat's just typing "ktorrent06:21
AWOSDev" on the command line.06:21
BluesKajktorrent won't run ?...have you tried setting it up in settings /config ktorrent with your browser and destination file for downloads ?06:21
Dr_WillisYou done anything odd with your system? used  automatix? easy ubuntu?06:21
lupine_85Dr_Willis: are you an engineer...? ;)06:21
michaelvsawosdev, as far as azureus goes, why not just run it from a directory in your home dir, instead of using the package?  That way you can use the CVS update plugin too.06:21
Dr_Willislupine_85,  i have an engineering Degree. :P06:21
lupine_85thought so06:21
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lupine_85BOFH++ ;)06:22
Dr_Willisand a Degree in Loveology!06:22
AWOSDevBluesKaj, Yes and my browser will attempt to open it.06:22
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Dr_Willislupine_85,  the computer  guys come to me for tech support. :P06:22
AWOSDevDr_Willis, no I don't use automatix (and don't even know what that is) and I'm just using regular old Kubuntu 6.06.1.06:22
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BluesKajKtorreent balks at some teoorent sites and don't know why , but if you use the sites provided by the search tab06:23
BluesKajthey should be fine06:23
lupine_85AWOSDev: could you compile ktorrent from source with debugging symbols enabled?06:23
AWOSDevOkay I can't even get it to run, so I don't think that's the problem...06:23
Dr_WillisHmm.. Nifty.. SaxenOS live cd.. can  work as a server. so Other pcs on the network can NET-boot.06:24
lupine_85involved, I know, but that sounds like a serious issue06:24
AWOSDevlupine_85, uh...will it take 2 hours like WINE?06:24
lupine_85I think the devs would be interested06:24
lupine_85erm, no :)06:24
dhqis there any sound deamon for skype06:24
lupine_85more like 5 minutesd06:24
Dr_WillisAWOSDev,  could cheat and use wine, and utorrent.exe06:24
AWOSDevAlright I'll go get the sources...06:24
AWOSDev...but where are they?06:24
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dhq!podcast06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about podcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
AWOSDevI tried to "sudo apt-get remove ktorrent"06:25
Dr_Willishmm. im using ktorrent 1.2 and kde 3.5.206:25
AWOSDevThe following packages will be REMOVED: ktorrent kubuntu-desktop06:25
AWOSDev!?06:25
Dr_WillisYes.. thats normal06:25
AWOSDevIs that okay to remove?06:25
lupine_85kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage06:25
AWOSDevoh06:26
lupine_85just reinstall it before you upgrade to edgy06:26
dhqlupine_85: is edgy safe06:26
lupine_85not really06:26
lupine_85unless you're comfortable with dpkg -r06:26
AWOSDevEdgy?  Not until it's out of beta, thank you very much.06:26
dhqlupine_85: yes i am ..... when is edgy gonna release06:27
lupine_85officially at the end of october06:27
lupine_85it's good fun for playing with06:27
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AWOSDevIs there like a ~/.ktorrent or something?06:27
AWOSDevIt opened once before06:27
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harahey ppl06:28
AWOSDevbut then it crashed when I clicked alot of buttons at once06:28
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AWOSDevand hasn't stopped SIGABRTing since.06:28
AWOSDevSo I'm thinking it's a config file or something.06:28
harai'm trying to build kaffeine from svn sources but ./configure ends with this message:06:28
hara"06:28
harachecking for KDE... configure: error:06:28
harain the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.06:28
haraSo, check this please and use another prefix!06:28
AWOSDevapt-get remove and then apt-get install did nothing06:28
lupine_85no .ktorrent as far as I can see06:28
lupine_85AWOSDev: you might be better with apt-get remove --purge06:29
harawhat headers and how to install them?06:29
AWOSDevhara, try06:29
lupine_85that will remove any config files06:29
AWOSDev!kde-dev06:29
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AWOSDev!kde-devel06:29
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BluesKajcan't ktorrent be removed and reinstalled in adept or synaptic ?06:30
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haraAWOSDev:  it ends up with a lot of unmet dependancies06:30
lupine_85BluesKaj: course it can, but cli is faster06:30
AWOSDevhara, just, uh, go get them?06:30
lupine_85why wait 15 seconds to just get the UI started?06:31
AWOSDevBluesKaj, yeah but I like Konsole better06:31
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AWOSDevand lupine_85 makes a good point about waiting ~25-40 seconds for it to scan all the packages06:31
lupine_85so if --purge doesn't help, I really think you should mention it to the devs06:31
BluesKajyeah but why remove the whole desktop just for one program ? :)06:31
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lupine_85it doesn't :)06:31
lupine_85it removes one program, and one metapackafge06:31
AWOSDevNo, --purge didn't help06:31
lupine_85the metapackage would be removed anyway, even in synaptic06:32
haraAWOSDev: libartsc0-dev: Depends: libartsc0 (= 1.5.2-0ubuntu1) but 1.5.3-0ubuntu0.1 is to be installed and apt-get refuses to install the newer package06:32
BluesKajwtf is a metapkg anyway ?06:32
lupine_85ok, I'd recommend you report it to the devs and try to compile your own from scratch06:32
lupine_85a package that contains no files, but only depends on other files06:32
AWOSDevOkay what I'm assuming I need to06:32
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lupine_85erm, on other packages06:32
AWOSDevis06:32
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AWOSDevsudo apt-get remove --purge ktorrent06:32
AWOSDevthen go get the sources and compile them06:32
AWOSDevright?06:32
lupine_85yep06:33
lupine_85and if it doesn't work from that, I've no idea06:33
lupine_85is your PC non-standard in any way?06:33
AWOSDevIt's a Compaq Presario 5700N.06:33
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AWOSDevdoes that answer your question?  :P06:33
lupine_85Compaq-- ;)06:33
gfhi guys06:33
AWOSDevIt's not *that* non-standard, it only lacks an AGP port.06:33
gfkde 3.5.4 available for breezy somewhere?06:33
AWOSDevand for 1999, that's not too bad06:33
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BluesKajok, i removed some stuff from my home dir folder and now when i x - out of ktorrent , it doesn't park in the panel any more . It actually quits ..what libs do i need to reinstall ?06:34
AWOSDevHmm...06:34
AWOSDev"Official packages are not yet available for this maintenance release of Ktorrent for Kubuntu.  Download the updated packages <here>."06:35
BluesKajKonversation still parks06:35
linnuxxyhow to run as another user in ubuntu bash shell...as su seems not working to me?06:35
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AWOSDevlinnuxxy -- try "su name -s"06:36
AWOSDev***rather sudo name -s06:36
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AWOSDevIt doesn't crash anymore!06:37
AWOSDevI fixed Ktorrent!06:37
lupine_85woo :)06:37
lupine_85how?06:37
lupine_85ah, with the "udated packages"?06:38
linnuxxyAWOSDes : not working!!!!06:38
AWOSDevI downloaded 2.0.2-1-kubuntu from their Website06:38
AWOSDevvs the 1.2-0-kubuntu on apt06:38
lupine_85hehe06:38
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AWOSDevYay!  It'll take 14 hours at this rate (this is what I get with the Premier Cable Internet package?!) but it works.06:39
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AWOSDevAh, now 12 hours :P06:40
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AWOSDevYeah well I have ~5000Kbps06:40
AWOSDevbut it's only got 19.4KB/s06:41
AWOSDevwell not bad for Portugal06:41
linnuxxyahmad@linnuxxy:~$ sudo ingres -s06:41
linnuxxysudo: ingres: command not found06:41
AWOSDevOooh now it's at 33KB/s and it'll be done in 9 hours!  :P06:41
miyakooh yeah, well I'm getting something like 300 baud right now :-P06:41
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lupine_85portugal++06:42
AWOSDevlinnuxxy, did you try sudo --help?06:42
dhqmy kaffine mplayer crashes when i run mp406:42
AWOSDevRTM!06:42
AWOSDevsudo -u ingres -s06:42
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miyakoam I the only one who finds sudo to be a pain and just does sudo su - when they need to be root?06:43
Dacemiyako: sudo -i06:43
AWOSDevI use sudo -s every now and again06:43
AWOSDevbut Yes.06:43
AWOSDevOn SuSE I ran as root.06:43
AWOSDevon IRC and everything06:44
AWOSDevbrilliant, I know :X06:44
miyakowell, I only run as root when I need to06:44
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miyakobut the thing that gets me is that, for most traditional purposes, one needs to run more than a single command as root06:44
lupine_85sudo passwd ++06:44
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miyakoand sudo makes that more painful than it needs to be in those cases by adding a whole extra 5 letters, if you can the space, that you need to type06:45
h4ch3rhello06:45
AWOSDevYeah it's really annoying to have to be root to umount06:45
AWOSDevI wish I could, you know, tell it 'well, let everybody umount, and mount, and apt'06:46
dhqlupine_85: my kaffine mplayer crashes when i run mp406:46
AWOSDevThat would make life so much easier, but in general, from a security standpoint, that's a Bad Idea(tm)06:46
lupine_85dhq: no idea, sorry06:47
h4ch3r06:47
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h4ch3r;)06:47
linnuxxyAWOSDev: it is 'sudo -u ingres -s'06:48
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AWOSDevYes, that's what I said?!06:48
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miyakoI have a problem, I really want one of th new iMacs, so I can dual boot OS X and Linux.  I am completely unable to justify actually getting one for any sort of reason, but I still want one06:48
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AWOSDevmiyako, I feel your pain06:48
miyakoeven though I know I could get an equivilent machine built myself for much cheaper, I am under the spell of Apple06:48
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AWOSDevI want every kind of computer ever made.06:49
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h4ch3rhello guys06:49
h4ch3rwhy does'nt kubuntu comes with koffice instead openoffice?06:49
AWOSDevI'm only missing a 286, 386, and PowerPC.  (well MIPS, RISC, and Alpha, but those are for later :P )06:49
AWOSDevh4ch3r, good question and nobody knows the answer.06:49
miyakoI wish I knew how easy (or difficult) it is to dual boot linux and OS X06:49
AWOSDevmiyako, have you tried looking at the06:50
AWOSDev!wiki06:50
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation06:50
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miyakoAWOSDev I googled around,b ut never checked the wiki directly06:50
abattoirmiyako: it takes some effort and learning... but its not very difficult06:50
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AWOSDevOoh 91K/s and only four hours!06:50
AWOSDev:)06:50
lupine_85hehe06:50
h4ch3rAWOSDev, big help 06:51
h4ch3r06:51
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miyakoI imagine the most difficult aspect would be getting the partitioning and boot loading configured properly06:51
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miyakoalthough I read mutterings on various blogs of Bootcamp support Linux, but I was never able to find any solid information on that06:51
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abattoirThomasZ: i think you'd have to make it manually06:52
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rouzicWhen is out the Knot3?06:52
abattoirThomasZ: open Konsole06:52
abattoirThomasZ: and use mkreiserfs06:52
ThomasZah, ok06:52
Pensacolahow to get konversation 1.0 in kubuntu?06:53
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AWOSDevWell I'll go play Kgoldrunner until my download's done.  So long!06:53
AWOSDevBye!06:53
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abattoirThomasZ: when it comes to the partitioning stage(in the installer)... make sure it doesnt format the reiserfs partition06:53
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AWOSDevPensacola, type "sudo apt-get install konversation" from the Konsole.06:53
h4ch3racris, getOut06:53
h4ch3rbye06:53
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Pensacolait installs 0.19 :s06:53
h4ch3rthanks06:53
abattoirThomasZ: and also a note... dont use XFS for your root partition...06:54
ThomasZthanks!06:54
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miyakoI need to find a good command line program for using IM06:54
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hydrogenIs it possible to install kubuntu from within another linux distro? I have a free partition, but no cd's here, is there something like debootstrap, but for kubuntu?06:54
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abattoirhydrogen: yes, i think it should be possible... w/ a debootstrap06:55
abattoirand yes.. there is one for kubuntu06:55
hydrogenabattoir: how do I kubuntuuize it?06:55
hydrogenabattoir: I know I can run debootstrap to get a debain06:55
abattoir!info debootstrap06:55
ubotudebootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 240 kB06:55
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abattoirhydrogen: i think that gets you a basic ubuntu install06:55
hydrogenabattoir: that builds a debian install06:55
abattoirhydrogen: you'd have to install kubuntu-desktop06:55
hydrogenabattoir: so just update my sources and install it?06:56
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abattoirhydrogen: http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html06:57
miyakoI'm thinking about trying edgy just so I can play with KDE406:57
abattoirit is not for dapper06:57
abattoirhydrogen: but it'd guide you in the right direction06:57
Pensacolasudo apt-get install konversation installs version 0.19 and not 1.006:58
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maexdhello togehter i try to install java with adept manager and now the terminal inside adept i cant click with the mouse or use the keyboard what do i have to do?06:58
abattoirhydrogen: and of course, at the last step, it'd be 'kubuntu-desktop'06:58
abattoirmaexd: please close adept... and run 'sudo apt-get -f install' in a terminal(konsole)06:59
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miyakowell, time for lunch07:00
maexdok i will do thx abattoir07:00
abattoirmaexd: when you do that, the same thing should come up inside the konsole... just follow the steps, and it should work :)07:01
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Pensacolasudo apt-get install konversation installs version 0.19 and not 1.0 how can I get 1.0?07:04
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abattoirPensacola: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu07:06
abattoirnot sure why 1.0 isnt in yet...07:07
Pensacolaah ok07:07
Pensacolathan don't mind my question :)07:07
Pensacolaif it's not in the repository there's nothing to update :)07:07
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HawkwindPensacola: I have a source for 1.0 if you want it07:17
Pensacolathe source is available from the website but I'm having some problems compiling it07:17
PensacolaI'll wait for the repository update :)07:17
Vegeta^How do I solve the problem with that when I close my laptop lid and open it again, the screen stays black?07:17
HawkwindPensacola: I have a deb source07:17
HawkwindPensacola: By one of the regulars here who builds for Kubuntu07:17
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Pensacolaow that would be nice07:18
HawkwindPensacola: deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper konversation-nightly07:18
sebastianHi ! i have a question, does Amarok 1.4.2 & 1.4.3 work fine for you ?07:18
HawkwindPensacola: There ya go.  It's got 1.0 currently07:18
Pensacolaok thank you very much07:18
sebastiansince there was an update, it crashes everytimne i want to have it fullscreen07:18
lupine_85sebastian: works ine07:18
PensacolaI love all the help I get for running kubuntu07:18
HawkwindPensacola: No problem07:18
sebastianmhm07:18
lupine_85oh, fullscreen....07:18
lupine_851 second07:18
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lupine_85erm, how do you make amarok full-screen anyway?07:19
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sebastianlast consoel message is: amarok: [WARNING!]  Browser is too large, mxcl says castrate the developer: PlaylistBrowser, 25307:20
sebastiani mean maximize, sorry07:20
lupine_85hehe, now that's an error message07:20
sebastianconsole gives me the above *g*07:20
lupine_85ok, works well here07:20
lupine_85what resolution are you running at?07:20
lupine_85(mine is 1280x1024)07:21
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roconnorHmm, I'm getting a lot of clicks on when playing mp3s with amaroK07:22
roconnorIt sounds like someone isn't filling their buffer big enough.07:22
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roconnoror maybe some process needs a higher priority?07:23
sebastianYes it is 1280x1024 , too07:23
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lupine_85hmm07:24
lupine_85since it's giving a warning, i'd report a bug07:24
arunkalecan someone tell me why kopete stops transferring files after 2% ?07:24
sebastiandid you install from here, too:07:25
sebastian#Amarok07:25
sebastiandeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ dapper main07:25
arunkalei can send files, but i can't receive07:25
lupine_85does it help if you change the left pane at all?07:25
lupine_85(e.g. to collection or playlists or whatever)07:25
sebastiani cant see my "amarok", it crashes because i have maximized it anyway07:25
sebastiando you know how to delete the user files ? (.amarok somewhere?)07:26
sebastianmaybe my playlist is too large :P07:26
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MarcCanybody know how to edit the OSD that pops up when I use my keyboard's volume control?07:27
arunkaleanyone?07:28
sebastianmhm it works fine with gaim, give it a try07:30
abattoirarunkale: works fine w/ msn and jabber too, for me07:30
sebastiani know that i did never get it working with kopete07:30
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arunkaleokay, i'm using gaim07:30
arunkalealso, please tell me some good themes for amarok.. please07:31
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arunkalei love the player, it sounds better than itunes, and all the features are mindblowing.. but i'd really like a good theme07:31
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abattoirarunkale: again, kde-look.org is the place07:33
abattoirthere are so many themes there07:33
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arunkaleokay, thanks :)07:33
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arunkalefirefox on kubuntu is superfast!07:34
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arunkalein kde-look.org, window decorations, i should look under 'native kde 3.2+' right?07:49
abattoirarunkale: yes07:50
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menaceIs anyone here familiar with g++-4.0?07:51
arunkaleabattoir: how do i install those?07:52
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abattoirarunkale: pls. give me a link...07:52
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arunkalehttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3294607:52
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abattoirarunkale: most of the time you'd nee to extract the archive and run './configure' , 'make' and the 'sudo make install'07:52
abattoirarunkale: if its a popular theme, it might be in the repos07:53
arunkaleis there a way i can search just for themes in adept?07:53
Hawkwindapt-cache search <package>from the CLI07:53
HawkwindSo apt-cache search theme or something similar07:54
Ash-Fox!fonts07:54
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto07:54
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ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer07:54
abattoirarunkale: well, you can use the debtags... if you can figure them out, that is :P07:54
Ash-FoxBlah, I don't lack fonts, I just lack a good font renderer07:54
menaceCan someone here help me with g++ installation?...selected it to install in adept and applyed the changes...but its nowhere to be found07:54
linnuxxyhow to install gmake on dapper?07:54
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Hawkwind!info gmake07:55
ubotuPackage gmake does not exist in any distro I know07:55
Ash-FoxI bet I have to recompile xorg and the font server to get decent font styles (because oh no! Apple owns a ptaent on pretty font rendering!)07:55
zorgluuumenace: do 'type g++'07:55
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zorgluuumenace: and do "type gcc"07:55
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arunkaleheh07:55
menacein terminal?07:55
arunkalei prefer gui07:55
arunkaleadept is my friend07:55
linnuxxyi need gmake to compile ingres07:55
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Azzcoumm I have a question.. I want to add a new user that can extract files form usb devices... what permission would I give such a user from the  system setting user&groups?07:56
arunkaleabattoir: can you recommend a good p2p client?07:56
zorgluuumenace: yep07:56
abattoirarunkale: there is bittorent...07:56
abattoirits not exactly a p2p client07:56
abattoirbut07:56
Ash-FoxAyabara, you can even install a later version of kopete, for kubuntu :P07:56
linnuxxygmake is used to compile Xerces-C++ too07:56
Ash-Fox!kopete07:56
abattoirthere is apollon07:56
menacetype g++07:56
menacebash: type: g++: not found07:56
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB07:56
abattoir!info apollon07:56
ubotuapollon: KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 445 kB, installed size 1684 kB07:56
menacethats my error.....07:56
zorgluuu!info g++07:57
Ash-FoxOh blah, the url isn't there, let me find it07:57
ubotuPackage g does not exist in any distro I know07:57
zorgluuu!info gcc07:57
ubotugcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB07:57
darrenAbattoir: There is KTorrent pre installed07:57
abattoirarunkale: apollon supports FastTrack(Kazaa), Gnutella(limewire) etc.07:57
linnuxxyi think gmake is in RH things07:57
menacebash: type: gcc: not found07:57
Ash-FoxAyabara, http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ :)07:57
arunkale!apollon07:57
ubotuapollon: KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 445 kB, installed size 1684 kB07:57
abattoirdarren: by bittorrent, i meant the technology, rather than the app :P07:57
zorgluuumenace: well they doesnt seems to be installed :)07:57
zorgluuu!build07:57
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:57
zorgluuumenace: read this07:58
zorgluuu!essential07:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:58
arunkalei can search and download files using apollon?07:58
abattoir!b-e07:58
abattoirarunkale: sure07:58
AyabaraAsh-Fox: what version is this? other version numbers than the one in the repo?07:58
trappistsudo apt-get install build-essential07:58
arunkalecool :)07:58
abattoirarunkale: there is also limewire/frostwire if you prefer those07:58
arunkalei can't believe how fast kubuntu is07:58
darrenneither could i07:59
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menacezorgluuu...i keep getting this error07:59
menaceE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:59
menaceE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:59
zorgluuuhehe it is cool, since window stopped coding on its os, linux appears much faster :)07:59
abattoir!adept crash fix07:59
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'07:59
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abattoirzorgluuu: ^^^^07:59
zorgluuumenace: close adept08:00
menaceok08:00
abattoirzorgluuu: sorry08:00
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arunkalewill be right back08:01
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menacebut cant find it...08:01
Ash-FoxAyabara, I believe it's the latest kopete stable08:01
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pierrethHello, I bought a new dvd reader but I am unable to mount it, what should I do?08:01
menacejust got this error...08:01
menaceg++: no input files08:01
pierrethI can see the disk on my deskop08:01
Ash-FoxAyabara, I use it because it gives me a few more privacy options and works better :)08:02
Azzcopierreth have you tried from konsole?08:02
pierrethbut i cannot mount it08:02
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pierrethAzzco: no, what command should I use?08:02
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fowlduckwhat is the address in konqueror to access the startup applications, I tried startup:///08:02
Hawkwindpierreth: Do you have DVD/CD in the drive, and if so, what kind is it...audio, data or what ?08:02
AyabaraAsh-Fox: ok. it says kopete3.5.3+kopete0.12.0. I have08:03
Ayabara0.12.108:03
Ash-Foxpierreth, ~/.kde/Autostart08:03
pierrethi have dvd rom08:03
AzzcoUhhmm I still need to ask something...08:03
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pierrethan iso dvd08:03
Ash-Foxpierreth, I have laptop08:03
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octanhi all..08:04
Ash-Foxan old laptop.08:04
octanwhy isnt my X starting up after idid a apt-get upgrade08:04
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Ash-FoxAyabara, eh? okay.08:04
octani have a nvidia card08:04
pierrethi am able to mount the drive from the console08:04
Ash-Foxoctan, we don't know.08:05
octanAsh-Fox: you dont know.. doesnt mean everybody else dosent08:05
Ash-Foxoctan, might want to provide us with a bit more information than that.08:05
AyabaraAsh-Fox: what I meant is that the version number of the one I got from the repo is higher than the version number from the link you sent me08:05
fowlduckan unwanted power manager loads on startup for me after login, how do I disable it? (guidance-power-manager)08:05
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Ash-FoxAyabara, odd, was pretty sure the repo had older.08:06
octanAsh-Fox:i installed the newest xorgserver ++ alot of ohter office pkgs08:06
pierrethwhen i try to unmount, i have this error: umount: not in fstab and you are not root08:06
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octanbut kdm isnt starting up.. the screen is only black08:06
dhq!mysql08:07
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP08:07
Ash-Foxthere was one foobared xorgserver update, but the latest isn't foobared...08:07
dhqis there any cchannel for help in mysql08:07
fowlduckanyone?08:07
Ash-Foxdhq, #mysql08:07
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Azzcookay seriusly  I need to make a user that can mount media devices as CDs and cameras... but I don't know what permission I should give such a user.08:07
octanand alt ctrl f1 or 2 dosent give me a tty08:07
dhqAsh-Fox: thanx08:07
octanim on my server with irssi now ;(08:08
gekko`somehow i don't have any tray-icons anymore. does someone know how to get them back?08:08
Ash-Foxoctan, ctrl + alt + backspace?08:08
Hawkwinddhq: For future reference, you can search channels easily, example: /msg chanserv list *mysql*  would give you all channels with the word 'mysql' in them08:08
octannop08:08
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Ash-Foxoctan, you could do add the 'init=/bin/sash' param when booting up, so you could check the logs to see what's going on08:09
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Ash-Fox(I think you had to hit escape when grub is starting, and then e to temporarily edit the boot option)08:09
octanok i'll try that08:10
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pierrethok I edited my fstab, i will reboot to test08:11
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octanok ithink i see the issue..08:11
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octanit dosent load evdev08:11
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octanwher do i put modules that needs to be loaded?08:11
octanit looks like it dosent load evdev08:12
Ash-FoxAyabara, are you running edgy?08:12
AyabaraAsh-Fox: dapper08:12
octanpls08:13
Ash-Foxhm.. odd08:13
Ash-FoxAyabara, do you have backports in your sources?08:13
octanmodule.. wher do i add it? i dosent need any parameters08:13
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AyabaraAsh-Fox: I added a little something to get kde 3.5.4. maybe it came from there08:14
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Ash-FoxAyabara, probably that :)08:14
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Ayabaraisn't /notice a standard irc command? can't make it work with kopete, and it is not in the list of commands08:15
Ash-FoxYes, it's a standard IRC command08:15
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angasule!vmware08:16
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare08:16
octanecho "eVdeV" << /etc/moduLes?08:16
octanerm08:16
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angasuleI tried to install vmware-player using adept (forgot about the license issue) and had to kill it, now adept complains that another program is using the packaging system, can anyone tell me how to fix it?08:18
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pierrethhello, everything is fine now!08:21
pierreththank you08:22
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octan_ther is a bug with the new xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-ubuntu10.408:26
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octan_it dosent do endev08:26
octan_*EVDEV08:26
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olihi08:27
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octan_hi08:27
olidoes anybody know what driver should i use for Canon BJC 3000?08:27
octan_this bug suxz. my mouse works best with evdev08:27
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octan_google08:27
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octan_sane?08:28
kiizelihey, whats this meaning?08:28
kiizeliKCrash: Application 'kate' crashing...08:28
kiizeliWarning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory08:28
kiizeliKCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.08:28
kiizeliXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:28
kiizeliXlib: No protocol specified08:28
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kiizeliand im trying to edit sources.list whit kate08:28
octan_oli, is it a printer?08:28
octan_scaner?08:28
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oliits a printer08:29
BluesKajoli , have done the systems settings/printers/setup ...there should be a list of drivers under the canon mark08:29
oliok, thx, i wlii try now :)08:29
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BluesKaji used to use a BJC5100 and it was listed there08:30
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octan_http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-BJC-300008:30
olii have been here08:30
octan_oki08:31
oliive downloaded gutenprint, but I cant compile it08:31
octan_did you install the driver?08:32
duckdownjddjhfd08:32
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oliwait please...08:33
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olikde is loading driver list08:33
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bobobocan u run  a virtual machine w/ kubuntu08:33
oliok there is Canon BJC 3000 driver :) thanx for help08:33
vgebobobo: you mean something like vmware, sure08:34
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olitest page was printed succesfully :) everything ok :)08:35
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llxcamxllwhat version of flash should i have??08:38
allxcamxll flash 708:39
Ash-Foxllxcamxll, the version the site requires.08:40
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pierrethi have no sound08:41
Iinventedkubuntullxcamx11, flash 708:41
angasuleI tried to install vmware-player using adept (forgot about the license issue) and had to kill it, now adept complains that another program is using the packaging system, can anyone tell me how to fix it?08:41
pierrethi have an ibm 300PL08:41
Iinventedkubuntuangasule you might have another adept open.08:41
Iinventedkubuntuor simply log back in and out08:41
Iinventedkubuntuor if you have the add/remove program that will do the same thing08:42
angasulelinnuxxy: no, there's a lock somewhere, I've rebooted08:42
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Iinventedkubuntuo08:42
lupine_85Iinventedkubuntu: the lock file is mentioned in the error message08:42
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lupine_85 /var/cache/dpkg/lock or... something08:42
arunkaleumm.. can i use msn messenger and yahoo messenger using wine? and can i use the latest versions?08:43
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angasulelupine_85: /var/lib/dpkg/lock , but that wasn't it, it still complains08:44
miyakoarunkale why not use Gaim?08:44
lupine_85if that file is deleted, then it shouldn't complain about a lock08:45
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angasulelupine_85: it's saying someone is using the packaging system08:45
lupine_85in that case, someone is08:45
angasulelupine_85: if I delete the lock file, then run adept, it complains, and the lock file is back in place08:45
arunkalemiyako: i need to use the features of yahoo messenger like photo sharing, etc..08:45
angasulelupine_85: I believe the error is related to the vmware-player installation08:46
arunkalemiyako: is it possible to install the latest version of yahoo messenger and use it using wine?08:46
johnwiggity!packages08:46
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!08:46
miyakoarunkale: I've never bothered, but you might look at the official version of yahoo messenger for Linux, I know it exists- though I'm not sure how up to date it is08:47
arunkalemiyako: the official version is like way old.. and doesn't support photo sharing and stuff08:47
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miyakomy gut tells me that an IM client is going to use some things that will give problems under Wine, but you never know until you try I suppose08:47
johnwiggity!mp3 > Iinventedkubuntu08:47
angasulecool, fixed it, I had to run dpkg --configure -a08:47
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meta_hi all08:48
johnwiggityah yes dpkg --configure -a, whoda thunk it08:48
meta_i have edgy, and x don't want start with this msg: "could not load font: `fixed`"08:48
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meta_what i need to install?08:48
johnwiggityi thin there is a room for edgy08:48
Hawkwindmeta_: #Ubuntu+1 is the place for Edgy questions really08:49
abattoirmeta_: #ubuntu+1 is the place08:49
abattoirmeta_: having said that... wait a sec08:49
arunkalemiyako: can i use photoshop cs in wine? and will it be really slow?08:49
miyakoPhotoshop CS will not work under wine to the best of my knowledge08:49
miyakohowever, Photoshop 7 does work well under Crossover Office08:50
miyakoand there is no substantial slowdown08:50
abattoirheh, i could've helped him....08:50
Hawkwindabattoir: Go get him in #Ubuntu+1 then :P08:50
abattoirHawkwind: is he there?08:50
abattoirHawkwind: i thought he quit08:50
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Hawkwindabattoir: Ah probably not08:51
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abattoirhe's not there08:51
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meta_hi all08:52
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meta_i'm again08:52
meta_i'm crashed08:52
meta_so how can i start x if it said could not load `fixed` ?08:52
meta_font08:52
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johnwiggitydpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:53
Hawkwindabattoir: He's back!08:53
abattoir!info xfonts-base edgy08:53
ubotuxfonts-base: standard fonts for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5985 kB, installed size 8276 kB08:53
abattoirmeta_: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base' and 'sudo apt-get install xfs' might help you08:54
abattoirmeta_: tell me if it works08:54
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meta_okay i'm workingonit08:55
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johnwiggityabattoir who helps u when u have question. or do you just never need help08:56
abattoirjohnwiggity: the almighty Google :)08:56
Hawkwindjohnwiggity: He never needs help :)08:56
johnwiggitylol iv e noticed08:57
abattoirjohnwiggity: you almost never are the first person to run across something.... just master the art of googling, and there is almost nothing that cant be found ;)08:57
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HawkwindGoogle knows all!08:57
lupine_85not all08:57
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MetaMorfoziSthankyou abattoir! i'm meta08:58
mrjpeople08:58
MetaMorfoziSit's working08:58
mrji have an problem08:58
lupine_85it doesn't know my shoe size!08:58
mrjToolbars and08:58
abattoirMetaMorfoziS: good :)08:58
mrjksysguard: ERROR: DancingBars lost sample ([01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ] , 1)08:58
Hawkwindlupine_85: It does if you know what to search for :P08:58
mrjksysguard does nto shows my temperature08:58
mrji have updated some packages with adept08:58
mrjand then it stoped to show my acpi temperature08:58
mrjand it used to work nice before that08:59
mrjany ideas08:59
abattoirjohnwiggity: btw, how did the AIO go? got it installed?09:00
arunkalehow is qemu09:00
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abattoirqemu is good :)09:01
mrjany help here ?09:01
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abattoirmrj: CPU temp huh?09:01
mrjyeah09:01
mrjit showed before09:02
mrjbut the adept wanted to upgrade some stuff09:02
mrjand ve i just clicked "OK"09:02
mrjand since then i can not see my temperature09:02
arunkaleabattoir: do applications run alright in qemu, or a bit slow?09:02
mrjit shows "Error"09:02
angasule!qemu09:02
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo09:02
mrjand ksysguard says : ksysguard: ERROR: DancingBars lost sample ([01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ] , 1)09:02
mrjhow can i fix that ?09:03
arunkalethanks09:03
angasulehmm, the qemu install script mentioned there isn't available, does anyone know of an alternative site or something?09:03
arunkaleabattoir: do you reckon yahoo messenger will work on wine?09:03
abattoirmrj: try 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' on the command line09:04
abattoirarunkale: its an emulator, so yes, it'll be slower... and how much slower depends on your setup...09:04
lupine_85vmware uses virtualisation, so is faster...09:05
abattoirarunkale: not sure... you could give it a try... or search the wine database09:05
lupine_85(apparently qemu + kqemu does the same thing)09:05
mrjabbatoit - taht works09:05
mrji can even see the temp09:05
arunkaleqemu loads an entire OS, right?09:05
angasulelupine_85: yes, it does, and that script allows installing kqemu, which is the reason I want it09:05
mrjbut why the ksysguard does not09:05
lupine_85Windows XP in vmware-player on a Sempon 2500+ was really slick09:05
arunkalei mean i have to start xp in qemu, and then do stuff?09:05
lupine_85well, for windows anyway09:05
lupine_85arunkale: yes. it loads the whole OS for you09:05
lupine_85hence 'virtual machine'09:06
abattoirmrj: i dont know... your sensors work fine... dont use ksysguard so cant be of help there, sorry, maybe ask at #kde ?09:06
arunkalelupine_85: does wine do the sme thing? or does wine run just the application09:06
lupine_85wine just runs the app09:06
arunkaleokay..09:06
angasulebummer, I'd really like qemu09:06
abattoirarunkale: why do you want yahoo messenger that badly?09:06
abattoirangasule: then install it :P09:07
arunkaleabattoir: i really need to use the photo sharing function09:07
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angasuleabattoir: as I just said, the install script is unavailable09:07
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abattoirangasule: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/download.html ?09:09
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abattoirdont know what script you refer to09:09
Ayabaradoes anyone know how I can give a password in kdebluetooth?09:09
abattoirAyabara: you mean a pin ?09:09
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Ayabaraabattoir: I think I mean a pin :-)09:10
Ayabaraabattoir: I _do_ mean a pin09:10
abattoirAyabara: when a device requests to connect or you pc wants to connect, then automatically a dialog asking for your pin should come up09:10
abattoirAyabara: the default is generally 123409:10
angasuleabattoir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo09:10
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Ayabaraabattoir: I get a "rejected for security reasons" dialog09:10
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abattoirAyabara: then you might have to edit hcid.conf09:11
abattoirAyabara: what is the exact error?09:11
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abattoirAyabara: sorry, have to go now...09:11
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abattoirAyabara: try 'man hcid.conf'09:12
Ayabaraabattoir: np. It suddenly seemed to work.09:12
Ayabarathanks09:12
abattoiraah ok :)09:12
MetaMorfoziSwhat is the replacement of msttcorefonts?09:12
MetaMorfoziS!msttcorefonts09:12
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB09:12
MetaMorfoziS!package msttcorefonts09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about package msttcorefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
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MetaMorfoziS^^ it said it's not found...09:12
lupine_85no it didn't09:13
lupine_85read again09:13
johnwiggitysweet so you can get microsoft fonts on linux09:13
MetaMorfoziSit's edgy09:13
johnwiggitylike open office and wat not09:13
lupine_85sigh09:13
lupine_85[20:12]  <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB09:13
lupine_85multiverse, optional, dapper09:13
MetaMorfoziSbarh09:13
MetaMorfoziSand for edgy?:D09:14
Ayabarahas anyone tried kmobiletools or know of good similar software for talking with sony ericsson phones?09:14
abattoir!info msttcorefonts edgy09:14
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB09:14
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abattoirMetaMorfoziS: ^^^09:14
abattoirsame package09:14
MetaMorfoziSyes but apt-get said that i can'T translate to english09:14
MetaMorfoziSit's old or missing...09:15
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abattoirMetaMorfoziS: see if you have the necessary repositories enabled...09:15
abattoirAyabara: konq. rocks :D09:15
MetaMorfoziSi have, i think...:D i enablet09:15
abattoirMetaMorfoziS: also, you might want to ask edgy-specific stuff on #ubuntu+1 as was suggested earlier09:15
Ash-FoxIs there I can reload the available fonts without restarting X?09:15
Ayabaraabattoir: it talks with my k800i as if they were old friends :-D09:15
johnwiggitywhat does true type do09:15
abattoirAyabara: heh lol09:16
abattoirAyabara: that's actually bluez-utils doing the trick09:16
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abattoirAyabara: but then kbluetoothd and bluetooth:/ are what you see :)09:16
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abattoirAyabara: but konq. still rocks :P09:17
Ayabaraabattoir: ahh. I won't hold it against konq :-)09:17
Ayabaraabattoir: do you use konq as your browser too?09:17
Ayabarainternet browser that is09:17
abattoirAyabara: yes09:17
eihnatanybody managed to install amarok 1.4.3 version? when i try it, adept gives me it breaks install. ver. 1.3.9 will install without problems.09:18
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johnwiggity!opera > johnwiggity09:20
abattoirjohnwiggity: does your printer/scanner work now?09:20
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johnwiggityabattoir: heh09:20
abattoireihnat: try 'sudo apt-get install amarok' in a terminal... might be more informative as to what would break09:21
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johnwiggityi dont have a printer/scanner09:21
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abattoirjohnwiggity: oh, really... ok, then. :)09:21
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FedAgtcan anyone help me install ndiswrapper?09:23
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johnwiggityabattoir: how do you do it09:23
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abattoirjohnwiggity: hehe09:23
johnwiggityi really think your clairvoyant09:23
abattoirFedAgt: sure09:23
eihnathow do i get libvisual 0.4?09:23
abattoirFedAgt: 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils' should fetch it09:23
abattoireihnat: it should be in the amarok repos on kubuntu.org09:24
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FedAgtabattoir: i need to do it offline sorry09:24
johnwiggityi wonder if i give myself away so easily09:24
abattoirFedAgt: ok, go to packages.ubuntu.com09:25
FedAgtabattoir: ive unpacked it to a folder and run make install but it doesnt install09:25
gerstI have some problem with my kde.. menus wont start I got this error message .. The KDE panel (kicker) could not load the main panel due to a problem with your installation.09:25
gerstwhat can I do about it09:25
gerst?09:25
abattoirFedAgt: did you run ./configure first ?09:25
lupine_85presumably it's a corrupted config file?09:25
gersti`ve tried to delete the whole .kde folder at my home dir09:25
abattoirgerst: the exact error message might help09:26
gerstit didnt help09:26
gerstThe KDE panel (kicker) could not load the main panel due to a problem with your installation.09:26
lupine_85try apt-get install --reinstall kicker and see if that helps09:26
gerstthis is the exact message09:26
FedAgtabattoir: no, where do i do that?09:26
gerstI`ll try good tip09:26
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abattoirFedAgt: in the folder where you extracted...09:26
abattoirFedAgt: run './configure' first, then 'make' then 'make install''09:27
gerstI got this message...09:27
gerstThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:27
gerst  kicker: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18 is to be installed09:27
gerst          Depends: libkonq4 (>= 4:3.5.3-1) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26 is to be installed09:27
gerstE: Broken packages09:27
FedAgtabattoir:ok thanks ill try that!, thanks for the help!09:27
abattoirFedAgt: drop the quotes, ofcourse09:27
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abattoirFedAgt: but wait09:27
FedAgtabattoir: yeh?09:27
abattoirFedAgt: do you have the kernel development files?09:27
abattoirFedAgt: the header files, actually09:28
abattoirFedAgt: you'd need that to compile ndiswrapper09:28
abattoirFedAgt: i'd suggest installing ndiswrapper from the repos09:28
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abattoirFedAgt: you'd have to go to packages.ubuntu.com, download it manually09:28
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abattoirFedAgt: and then do 'sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb' to install it09:29
abattoirFedAgt: do you understand any of those?09:29
abattoiror do they sound like gibberish? :P09:29
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FedAgtabattoir: yeh i do =P09:29
abattoirFedAgt: ok, that's great then :)09:30
FedAgtabattoir: i think its the header files i need =)09:30
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lupine_85linux-headers-<whatever>09:30
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abattoirFedAgt: trust me.. its a big hassle09:30
alumnosjkjk09:31
mitchell88is installation of linux on an emac any differnt than normal09:31
FedAgtabattoir: to get ndiswrapper working?09:31
abattoirFedAgt: or maybe not... just try getting the package which linux-headers-<whatever>(as lupine_85 said)09:31
abattoirpoints to09:31
FedAgtabattoir: okies ill do that09:31
abattoirFedAgt: to compile ndiswrapper manually09:31
gersthow can I fix broken packages?09:31
lupine_85abattoir: given that the ubuntu version of ndiswrapper is some 15 revisions behind the current source, it's generally best to roll your own09:32
lupine_85!info ndiswrapper09:32
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in any distro I know09:32
abattoirFedAgt: remember its a meta package, so downloading it alone, doesnt help09:32
lupine_85!info ndiswrapper-utils09:32
ubotundiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB09:32
lupine_85!info ndiswrapper-utils edgy09:32
ubotundiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 48 kB09:32
lupine_85it's something like 1.23 on the website right now09:32
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abattoirlupine_85: yes, but the dep. for the header files sometimes are complicated... to download them all09:32
lupine_85!info linuz-headers-2.6.15-26-38609:32
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ubotuPackage linuz-headers-2.6.15-26-386 does not exist in any distro I know09:32
lupine_85!info linux-headers-2.6.15-26-38609:33
ubotulinux-headers-2.6.15-26-386: Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 836 kB, installed size 22988 kB09:33
lupine_85that's no metapackage09:33
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lupine_85abattoir: linux-headers and standard libc are the only deps09:33
AlextremoHelp me ... please09:34
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abattoirlupine_85: hmm.. well, i was wrong i guess(even though i remember it asking for a bunch of deps)09:34
l84wrkhow do i get flash for firefox?09:34
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abattoir!flash09:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:34
lupine_85!flash-nonfree09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
abattoirl84wrk: ^^^09:34
lupine_85meh, it's something like that09:34
lupine_85!flashinstaller-nonfree09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashinstaller-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
lupine_85search for flash in the repos - there's an installer in there09:35
l84wrkis that in the synaptic09:35
l84wrkerr i guess adpet09:35
abattoirl84wrk: read the link above... it clearly explains the process :)09:35
abattoirhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats09:35
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l84wrkok. thanks.09:35
arunkaleonce i install wine from the package manager, do i have to run some winecfg command?09:36
excludethis is weird, somehow sftp is inaccessible from the "outside" world. could be that I did not set the right ports in my router.09:36
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excludesftp is ssh, not? aka port 21?09:36
lupine_85exclude: 2209:36
lupine_8521 is telnet IIRC09:36
lupine_85or FTP09:36
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lupine_8521 is FTP09:37
excludelupine_85: hmm, even stranger, both 22 and 21 are forwarded...09:37
lupine_85is sshd bound to your external address?09:37
lupine_85rather than just localhost, say09:37
gersthow can I fix broken packages?09:37
excludelupine_85: afaik yes.09:37
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excludelemme check that for sure :)09:38
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excludelupine_85: yes, confirmed: I can log in from remote with SSH, but not with sftp09:39
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lupine_85very strange09:39
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WoodwardAveupgraded to KDE 3.54, kwin has crashed a few times randomly when browsing an intensive website in Firefox - is this a documented bug?09:41
WoodwardAveusing Kubuntu Dapper 6.06.109:42
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ParkotronDoes anyone know if the Amarok 1.4.3 debs will play FLAC files? There was a bug in the 1.4.2 debs.09:43
arunkaledoes kubuntu have an inbuilt ftp app?09:43
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gerstopen terminal and type ftp :)09:43
abattoirarunkale: konqueror has ftp support 'inbuilt'09:43
abattoirarunkale: you can try kbear too09:44
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abattoir!info kbear09:44
ubotukbear: graphical ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-13ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2401 kB, installed size 8604 kB09:44
arunkaleshould i get kbear or kftpgrabber09:44
SpAwN!gftp09:44
ubotugftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB09:44
SpAwN^^ i prefer gftp09:44
jpiccolohow would i set it up my box to be able to be ssh'ed into09:44
gerstmc has a built in ftp client too09:44
SpAwNjpiccolo, install openssh-server09:45
SpAwNi *think*09:45
mrjhi09:45
mrjso09:45
mrjksysguard is the problem09:45
mrjor somethign with the packages09:45
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mrji noticed that : ** (process:19076): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed09:45
mrjwhen i tried to apt-get remove ksysguard09:46
mrjit removed sucessfully but gives this err output09:46
jpiccolospawn, ok its install, how would i set it up?09:46
arunkalekbear or kftpgrabber?09:46
gerst... how can I fix broken packages with apt-get ?09:46
mrjhow can i fix my system ?09:46
mrji need to know that too09:47
mrj:)09:47
SpAwNjpiccolo, probly /etc/init.d/sshd start maby...or got system services and start it09:47
SpAwNarunkale, like i said i use gftp...the others used to always crash for me09:47
mrjapt-get upgrade --fix-broken09:47
arunkaleah09:47
gerstI never had any problems with packages with ubuntu.. now with kubuntu I have :D09:47
mrjgerst: apt-get upgrade --fix-broken09:47
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jendaallo09:48
SpAwNim afk....goog luck all09:48
|GaiJin|do we have an alternative tio Gdesklets in KDE??09:48
Pensacolawhere can I download other login screens?09:48
jendaWhat's the Kalternative to gDebi?09:48
gerstthanks09:48
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lupine_85jenda: dpkg? ;)09:48
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lupine_85in seriousness, I think there's an adept-like program...09:49
jendalupine_85: hehe :) I just need the name of the graphical .deb installer for KDE09:49
lupine_85adept_installer ?09:49
SpAwNjenda, i think u want adept09:49
lupine_85(that's the binary name I have here, don't know if it's a separate package or not)09:49
abattoir|GaiJin|: of course... superkaramba09:50
arunkalelupine_85: once i install wine using adept, do i need to run some winecfg command?09:50
jendaSpAwN: thx09:50
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lupine_85arunkale: you can do09:50
jendaI will blame it on you, if it's wrong :)09:50
lupine_85if you want to customise the setup09:50
lupine_85the defaults are sane09:50
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arunkalei dont _have_ to run the command, right?09:51
Lars_GAre dapper-backports considered safe?09:51
lupine_85arunkale: no09:51
lupine_85Lars_G: generally yes09:51
Lars_GI want amarok 1.4.3 so baddly but it requires some stuff from backports09:51
lupine_85they're quite well-tested, but no guarantees :)09:51
mrjlupine_85: can u help me please09:52
h3sp4wnLars_G: I would only use them if you had something you actually wanted09:52
Lars_Glupine_85: any know exceptions (packages) I should be aware of?09:52
lupine_85mrj: what's the problem?09:52
lupine_85Lars_G: no09:52
mrji get an error message :09:52
mrj** (process:20306): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed09:52
Lars_Gperfect, thanks a lot lupine_85 sir09:52
arunkalethanks lupine_8509:52
lupine_85I have no idea what that means09:52
mrjlupine_85: i get that message when i try to install a package with apt-get09:52
lupine_85np09:52
NthDegreelmao09:53
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lupine_85mrj: my guess would be a borked apt database, but I don't really know09:53
Lars_Gmrj: ANY package or a specific one?09:53
Lars_Glupine_85: seems like a failing pre/post install script to me, but I'm not sure09:53
lupine_85yes, it does sound graphical in nature09:54
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lupine_85in which case dpkg -r <package-name> would solve the problem09:54
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arunkalelupine_85: i installed kftpgrabber from adept.. where can i run it from?09:55
lupine_85if it's not in the desktop, dpkg -L kftpgrabber (or look at the relevant tab in adept) will give you a list of installed files09:55
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lupine_85find the one most likely to be the binary, and run it from terminal or the run command.. box09:56
arunkaleshouldn't it automatically be added to the k menu?09:56
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shantanui think i messed up my xorg.conf when i edited it using oowriter09:57
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shantanuX wont start now09:57
lupine_85erm, yes that would break it09:57
lupine_85run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core09:57
lupine_85IIRC09:57
shantanuIIRC?09:58
lupine_85if I remember correctly09:58
Lars_Gshantanu: If I Recall Correctly09:58
lupine_85it might actually be a different package09:58
grafti think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does it...09:58
shantanukk09:58
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graftmaybe not... i don't remember for sure either09:59
Lars_GI better backup my config someday, I've altered my xorg.conf too much to have to rebuild it09:59
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arunkalelupine_85: i ran it from the terminal, but shouldn't it be added to the kmenu automatically? and if it doesn't, is there anyway to add it?10:00
shantanuwell10:00
abattoirshantanu: or try 'sudo dexconf'10:00
graftmyeh, unless you have four monitors and a tv-out with displaying simultaneously off five different cards, it's not that hard to reconstruct10:00
miyakoyou know, I still can't see "IIRC" and not think it has something to do with "IRC" even though I know perfectly well what it actually means10:00
shantanuabattoir ok10:00
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shantanuthen startx>?10:00
abattoirshantanu: that should get back you default xorg.conf10:00
abattoiryes10:00
shantanufatal IO error10:00
shantanu:/10:00
graftah, fatal IO error10:00
abattoirshantanu: the exact error message pls.10:01
lupine_85arunkale: it might just be awaiting a restart of the x server. IF not, you can right-click on the big K and "Menu Editor"....10:01
graftwhat's dexconf?10:01
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shantanufatal IO error 4 "Connection reset by peer"10:01
shantanufatal IO error 104 "Connection reset by peer"10:02
graftum, did it update your xorg.conf?10:02
lupine_85!debconf10:02
ubotudebconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support debconf are configured when they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using dpkg-reconfigure10:02
D4rklywine cant find libntdll.so ?10:02
graft!dexconf10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dexconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
graftblech10:02
abattoirgraft: debian's x config system10:02
graftah, debconf for x10:02
graftgot it10:02
abattoirheh10:02
shantanuwell..10:02
shantanu:/10:02
graftshantanu: did it change your xorg.conf or no?10:03
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D4rklyhow can i reconfigure wine ?10:03
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abattoirD4rkly: winecfg ???10:03
shantanuwell.. i was trying to install the ATI drivers according to the HowTo on the Ubuntu forums10:04
shantanuandafter reboot now it says there is no device!!10:04
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abattoirshantanu: sudo dexconf does nothing?10:04
shantanunada10:04
shantanuthats the error tafter sudo dexconf10:05
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abattoir'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'10:06
abattoirshantanu: try that10:06
shantanuok10:06
enridimadov il canale che parla italiano?10:07
tsdgeos!it10:07
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:07
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D4rklywine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:09
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DiabolicWhat program is to be used for downloading photos from a camera in Kubuntu?10:11
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insanekaneDiabolic: digikam10:11
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Zambouliehey10:14
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Zambouliei need help with something10:14
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miyakoZamboulie and that would be?10:14
razerwhich file does kcontrol use to save the configured screen resolution?10:14
Zamboulieoh ya10:15
Zambouliei need help with an audigy 210:15
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Zambouliei used to have onboard and now i have an audigy 210:15
razeri mean, the active one10:15
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wayne_can onyone point me to forum or something on how o duelboot windows and kubuntu?  please10:16
miyakohmm, not sure off hand, never used one of those cards and I have no idea how compatable they are10:16
Zambouliecreative doesn't have linux drivers10:16
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Emperor_Nortonerm, kopete keeps crashing10:19
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frojnddoes kubunto have any htm viewing programs10:20
frojndhzml10:20
h3sp4wnZamboulie: audigy2 should work fine with alsa10:20
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grafthzml?10:21
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frojndhtml10:21
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frojndTo preview what u wrote..10:22
graftyou mean like a web browser? you want to see it rendered or in code?10:22
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arcasaHey everyone :)10:22
frojndrendered10:22
graftjust open it in konqueror or firefox dude10:22
frojndaha10:22
graft*bonk*10:22
frojnd:)10:22
frojnd;)10:22
arcasaHe wants a codey web browser? It's called Lynx.10:22
DralaFiHow can one have cool window decorations (close, minimise and maximise) like in this picture? http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=44730&file1=44730-1.jpg&file2=44730-2.png&file3=&name=Human+KDE10:22
graftoh i have that window dec... hode on10:23
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arcasaCan anyone tell me how to configure Conky? (I only installed this morning to please, Nothing too technical :P)10:23
arcasaso*10:23
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grafterm... apparently not on this machine... just poke around kde-look DralaFi, it's on there10:24
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DralaFigraft, i thought it was deKorator, but I can't seem to get that working (selecting it makes the whole kwin titlebar and all the buttons totally dissapear)10:24
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Zambouliewhats that command to get rid of shift+backspace making it restart X10:25
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arcasaHow can I disable GUI login? (You can't beat a Terminal Login)10:26
graftDralaFi: dekorator is just a system that allows you to use a whole bunch of themes10:26
graftDralaFi: you have to install specific dekorator themes to get it to work properly...10:26
weedar_arcasa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21821610:27
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graftDralaFi: it might be aero glass theme for dekorator that you want10:28
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DralaFigraft, i got the answer from #kde - need to install crystal decorations10:28
DralaFiaero glass theme for dekorator <--- tried that, dekorator doesn't work, no matter which theme I try10:29
frojndstrange10:29
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frojndif I open index.html with konqueror shows only code10:29
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pierrethcan i have some help to have sound with my machine?10:30
pierrethin kinfo, it is written that I have no sound card10:31
pierrethwell, so sound10:31
arcasaYou know some keyboards have like volume control and other useful buttons on.... Are they a Windows only thing or has the Nix Collective found a way around that?10:31
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arunkalelupine_85: OMG FTP is so easy using Konqueror!10:31
arunkaleand so fast!10:31
purplehi all10:31
arunkalehi purple10:31
graftarcasa: you can probably deal with 'em... you just need to munge around with your xorg.conf some10:32
lupine_85if you think that's good, fish://your-ssh-server10:32
lupine_85(to arunkale)10:32
purplecansomebodypaste me a link of kde 3.5.4 repo to install it on my ubuntu box?10:32
pierretharcasa: you have to install some applications10:32
arcasaI'm a noob. I installed Kubuntu this morning.10:32
pierretharcasa: hotkeys I think10:32
_bender_Oh this question is gonna be random but....is the CONFIGURE command included by default with Kubuntu...?10:32
lupine_85!hotkeys10:32
ubotuhotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 141 kB, installed size 380 kB10:32
arcasaCan you name the application?10:32
arunkalelupine_85: what's that do?10:33
graftwell, there you go...10:33
pierrethubotu: did10:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about did - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:33
lupine_85arunkale: lets you browse any SSH server10:33
arunkaleoh?10:33
lupine_85very handy10:33
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pierrethi made of try of hotkeys10:33
grafti wish they'd get rid of ftp entirely10:33
pierrethI made a try of hotkeys10:33
AV1611greeting! can anybody help out with SFTP protocol, please...10:34
graftwhat's your question, AV1611?10:34
pierrethBut I don't have enough keys, so this is not very useful for me10:34
AV1611FarSCP plugin is used at Win10:34
lupine_85Alright! hotkeys works really well10:34
AV1611but at linux I can't find any suitable tool10:34
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AV1611for that task////10:34
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lupine_85scp:// ?10:35
graftAV1611: fish:// in konqueror, as we just discussed10:35
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AV1611and what ois the syntax of that command?10:35
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Zambouliehow do i change my password?10:35
graftAV1611: it's just browsing your machine, like: fish://your-server/path10:35
AV1611fish://username:passwd@ftp.secureftpserver.org10:35
lupine_85erm, SSH server10:36
DaceAV1611: remote:/ -> Add a Network Folder10:36
graftum, never, ever put your ssh password in a url, eww10:36
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AV1611there's got to be appiled some username and passwd10:36
lupine_85hehe10:36
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graftthat is REALLY REALLY bad security10:36
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graftAV1611: it'll prompt you for it, in a SECURE fashion10:36
pierrethIf I go in kcontrol, it is written: No information about Sound card10:36
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lupine_85oooh, in public as well...10:37
pierrethhow can I know if I have a sound card?10:37
pierrethI have no volume10:37
graftpierreth: lspci -v, probably10:37
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AV1611well, thanx, but if there's a way to work with it my MC-like commander?10:38
lupine_85hmm10:38
AV1611by MC10:38
AV1611I mean10:39
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AV1611do you see, straight MC (as well as FAR, TCMD) cannot work with that kind of server10:39
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pierrethgraft: I think I have nothing10:39
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AV1611I got SFTP plugin for FAR, ad onmly then I become able to get through to my server...10:40
pierrethit have an ibm 300PL10:40
graftpierreth: you don't see like 'multimedia audio controller' or some such?10:40
pierrethgraft: no, not at all10:41
pierrethgraft: I have the plugs on the machine10:41
Martijn81this is weird, changing the resolution from system settings does not work, and when i reboot i am forced to reconfigure-xserver again. It used to work splended :s10:41
graftAV1611: so you want sftp working in mc?10:41
pierrethgraft: my speakers are connected10:41
AV1611yes, that's the main problem I need to resolve10:41
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AV1611as mc is very usable for me10:42
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pierrethgraft: I looked inside the machine and it seems to be integrated to the mother board10:42
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graftpierreth: wanna post the output of lspci -v on the pastebin?10:43
pierrethgraft: sure10:43
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Martijn81it doesn' t "preview either", no xgl installed, just vanilla installation, this hardware worked fine in dapper until now. I am lost10:43
DralaFiis there a kubuntu-specific configuration app to make the framebuffer on bootup have higher res? or is this just an issue of making grub use the proper vga= option?10:43
lupine_85it's not kubuntu-specific10:44
lupine_85just vga= ir10:44
lupine_85it*10:44
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DralaFithanks :)10:45
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pierrethgraft: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2335610:45
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graftAV1611: mc has built-in fish support... hit F9 and it's 'shell link' in the pulldown menu10:45
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AV1611OK, thanx!10:46
AV1611goodbuy10:47
Martijn81i'd hope it's only me then, i' ve not touched xorg.conf since installation, besides nvidia driver of course10:47
graftpierreth: hrm, looks like it doesn't recognize your card at all... are you sure it's seated properly? it's a PCI card or on-board?10:47
pierrethgraft: no, as I said it is integrated to the mother board10:48
grafthm, anyone know how to get that snazzy boot-splash sequence working?10:48
graftpierreth, my guess is it's disabled in the bios, then...10:48
pierrethgraft: not a bad idea, i will look10:48
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pierrethgraft: thank you10:48
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draikIf none of my OpenGL screensavers function/display, what should I be looking for and where?10:50
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DralaFiglx module needs to be loaded10:50
DralaFiyou can try glxinfo10:50
draikXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server10:51
draikXlib: No protocol specified10:51
draikError: unable to open display (null)10:51
h3sp4wndraik: Installed a combination of drivers from nvidia.com and from the repositories10:51
draikHow do I run/install  *.run  files?10:51
lupine_85sh <file>10:51
DralaFish ./blah.run10:51
h3sp4wnchmod +x blah.run10:51
lupine_85assuming they're executables10:51
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h3sp4wn./blah.run10:52
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sorush20hi guys I'm unable to use amarok-xine with alsa..10:52
cristianhola a todos , mi ubuntu no apaga , alguien me puede ayudar?10:52
sorush20I keep getting the message that xine was unable to get the device..10:52
h3sp4wndraik: You should either use the drivers from the repositories or from nvidia not a combination of both10:53
sorush20I have spoken to the amarok people but they say that its a distro problem rather than amarok10:53
sorush20how would I go about fixing this proble.10:53
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draikh3sp4wn, I can't seem to install the driver from nvidia because I'm running X10:53
sorush20I am using advanced linux sound arch in the system settings - sound and multimedia10:54
draikI also installed the drivers from the repos already10:54
sorush20how would I go about fixing this probelm?10:54
purplei trying to upgrade my existing KDE to 3.5.4 but i get these messages W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508810:54
purpleW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508810:54
purplecan u help?10:54
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purplesorry 4 flooding10:54
purple;(10:54
h3sp4wndraik: Have you run nvidia-glxconfig enable (or whatever the command is)10:54
BluesKajsorush20, try the new release available at these repos sites:10:55
BluesKajdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main10:55
BluesKajdeb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main10:55
manuel_hi10:55
purplethnxx10:55
purplethnxx BluesKaj10:55
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draiksays that nvidia is not a command10:55
draikerrr.. .command not found10:56
lupine_85nvidia-glx-config iirc10:56
BluesKajadd them to your sources list and then do the 'sudo apt-get update" command10:56
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pierrethgraft: it is enabled10:57
draikError: your X configuration has been altered.This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that thisnot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the followingcommand: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia.10:57
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Martijn81ok, work again, if people are having the same issue they might NOT wanna skip the Kpersonaliser bacause configuring the resolution will be unpossible from kde otherwise10:57
Martijn81*works10:57
draiklupine_85, I did   nvidia-xgl-config       and then it told me that I had to select    enable | disable          I did        nvidia-xgl-config enable         and got that error10:58
sorush20BluesKaj: you have given me the wron source10:58
sorush20http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php10:58
lupine_85draik: then do what it's told you to do10:58
lupine_85or edit the file manually10:58
draikok10:58
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Martijn81why is this new kpersonaliser introduced anyway? anyone?10:59
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BluesKajsorush20, try the new release available at these repos sites: sorry sorush20, but you have to copy and paste them into your sources list10:59
cpk2draik: you should just have to change nv to nvidia10:59
draikok11:00
draikI'm going to do that right now11:00
h3sp4wndraik: just run md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum11:00
sorush20BluesKaj: you told me this was the repo eb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main, but amarok suggest this deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143 dapper main which is it?11:00
h3sp4wndraik: then re run it11:00
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BluesKajboth !11:01
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draikOK11:01
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draikto restart X do I need to restart the desktop or can I safely do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE?11:02
BluesKajI copied and pasted them from my list ... those sources got me the new amarok and dependencies11:02
lupine_85draik: ctrl+alt+backspace is fine11:02
draikThank you11:02
draikThank you lupine_85 h3sp4wn and cpk211:02
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lupine_85np :)11:03
BluesKajsorush20, or try www.imbrandon.com for more info and sources11:03
cpk2i hope he backed up is xorg.conf11:03
cpk2his*11:03
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NthDegree!restricted11:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:05
sorush20BluesKaj: that dosent' help11:05
NthDegree!restricted >Vanique11:05
NthDegree!restricted > Vanique11:05
sorush20I am using the same verison as you are but there i snot way that I can use alsa and amarok xine..11:05
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sorush20I keep getting the message that xine was unable to initialise audio driver..11:06
zorgluq. what is the name of the kde task bar which zoom the icon as in macosx ?11:06
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BluesKajwell , sorush20...it works for me11:07
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BluesKajduh, check yer drivers then ... it's not amarok11:08
lupine_85sorush20: probably something else - e.g. artsd - is using the sound hardware11:08
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miyakozorglu: there have been a lot, just google around for some combination o f"linux" "kde" and "dock" and you'll probably find one you like11:09
eve@find thriller11:09
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sorush20lupine_85: those firefox for gaim use it?11:09
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lupine_85sorush20: what?11:09
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sorush20lupine_85: the artsd11:10
zorglumiyako: ok thanks11:10
cpk2sorush20: firefox and gaim can both tie up your sound card but your artsd should be handling more than one output11:10
sorush20cpk2: what could the problem be? my kubuntu system is set to use alsa but I have two output deviced a usb headphone that I want to use with amarok and a monitor speaker..11:11
lupine_85sorush20: lots of things use artsd, but in general you can make them use something else11:11
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graftman there should just be a howto for this11:12
graft'how to disable artsd, use alsa, and live a better life.'11:12
lupine_85graft: write one? :)11:12
cpk2usually in ubuntu the sound "just works"11:12
graftyeh... probably i should11:12
lupine_85it's pretty easy though... click... click... click... untick11:12
frojndhej guys, I wrote some html code. Where can I preview it?11:12
graftthe problem is, for some reason the KDE guys are STILL stuck on arts, even though they haven't developed it in years11:12
lupine_85frojnd: what?11:12
graftand they keep bundling it in and leaving it running... dumb11:13
miyakofrojnd - try just opening it in konqeror or firefox11:13
frojndI made my first page in html11:13
lupine_85IMO, if you want to things playing at the same time, you should have two sound cards ;)11:13
lupine_85^ what s/he said^11:13
frojndI allready tried, nothing happens, it opens code that I wrote :S11:13
enzo_OK11:13
graftfrojnd: what'd you edit it with? is it plain text?11:13
enzo_si I did all of that11:13
Hawkwindgraft: You do realize that arts is being replaced11:13
lupine_85does it have a .html extension?11:13
enzo_*so11:14
miyakofrojnd - is it HTML or is it something like PHP?11:14
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lupine_85oooh really?11:14
enzo_but now I can't log into Kubuntu11:14
frojndgraft frojnd: what'd you edit it with? is it plain text?11:14
graftHawkwind: um, no... when, "kde 4"?11:14
frojnd yes11:14
lupine_85what with?11:14
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Hawkwindgraft: In KDE4 yes, but not sure if it might appear *before* that11:14
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Hawkwindlupine_85: I've been told it's being replaced by *solid*11:14
frojnd<lupine_85> what with?  ur talking to me?11:14
graftman... everything good is going to happen in KDE4... it's like waiting for Jesus to arrive11:14
lupine_85frojnd: no11:14
miyakoI'm really excited about KDE4 - good things are happening11:15
Hawkwindgraft: Hah11:15
lupine_85graft: he's in south park11:15
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enzo_h3sp4wn, lupine_85, I did what you both told me and now it won't load up11:15
graftoh yeah, true11:15
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sorush20but I have already set my kubuntu to use alsa through system settings11:15
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lupine_85enzo_: were you the nvidia drivers person?11:15
miyakograft: except without the people randomly knocking on your door asking if you've heard the "good news"11:15
Hawkwindlupine_85: Supposedly there is mention of it on the arts(d) home page11:15
zorglumiyako: apparently the installation of kxdocker went ok... i restarted kde but nothing chnaged. how can i test if it is there and working ?11:15
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enzo_yup11:15
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lupine_85then presumably the driver isn't in properly11:15
lupine_85what happens when you "sudo modprobe nvidia"?11:16
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graftmiyako: um, some linux zealots are pretty zealous11:16
enzo_I can't log into anything11:16
miyakozorglu - I'm not sure, I haven't used that one befre.  I don't really have access to KDE right now since I'm at work (running NT4 *shudder*)11:16
lupine_85enzo_: yes you can11:16
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zorglumiyako: ok :)11:16
lupine_85you have six virtual terminals to choose from11:16
miyakograft: true, it reminds me of that quote on bash where the guy says linux users are like the jehova's witnesses of the computer world.  "have you heard about linux?"11:16
enzo_and none of them respond11:17
enzo_it freezes11:17
flakehowdy all11:17
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lupine_85in that case, something in the module is flaky11:17
lupine_85reboot in single-user mode and go back to the old one11:17
miyakozorglu : if you stick around for a couple of hours I can check when I get home.11:17
grafti'm all set for KDE to destroy the world, but i dunno... seems like things have been pretty stagnant interface-wise for so many years, i'm skeptical of them pulling off a huge leap forward11:17
lupine_85Har! "KDE uses aRts to play sounds. aRts bases on your normal Linux sound drivers, either OSS or ALSA (using the OSS emulation)."11:18
grafttalk is cheap11:18
frojndor can anyone tell me what's the name of text editor?11:18
lupine_85kate ?11:18
frojndtxt11:18
lupine_85nano ?11:18
frojndhm11:18
graftkate!11:18
flakevi11:18
enzo_lupine_85, single user mode?11:18
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lupine_85enzo: also known as recovery mode. it's an option in the boot menu11:18
enzo_that's what I'm in now11:18
frojndI saved my html file like: index.html11:18
enzo_I'm in under root right now11:18
frojndand it doesn't wanna open it like it should11:19
miyakograft: I'm not sure, I think that progress is being made, but I think things are going to cool off a bit until compiz and XGL or AIGLX become more mature11:19
enzo_I gave my root password11:19
lupine_85then run nvidia-glx-config disable11:19
graftfrojnd: sometimes it doesn't like initial spaces or line breaks...11:19
lupine_85and you should be back to stability11:19
miyakoI really like XGL/Compiz, but I do wish that compiz was integrated into the KDE Kontrol Center, and that I could reasonably run OpenGL applications while running XGL11:19
enzo_cosays that command not found11:19
miyako(maya runs like honey that's been setting in the freezer for a week under XGL)11:19
frojndgraft frojnd: sometimes it doesn't like initial spaces or line breaks...  I know, so I've used <pre> :)11:20
frojndok11:20
frojndI am going all over again11:20
graftfrojnd: um, what?11:20
graftfrojnd: you've used <pre>?11:20
graftfrojnd: err, maybe you should pastebin your code... :P11:21
enzo_lupine_85, it says command not found11:21
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lupine_85well, you used it earlier11:22
lupine_85well, you called it "nvidia-xgl-config"11:22
enzo_nvidia-glx-config   is not a command, which is strange because it worked earlier11:22
cpk2enzo_: if you try tab completing from nv do you get anything?11:23
miyakotry nv then hit tab a couple of times11:23
enzo_nope11:23
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enzo_nothing11:23
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miyakosometimes I try to use tab completion in every day conversation11:23
cpk2enzo were you logged in as root when you ran it last time?11:24
graftyou're talking to your mom and you look around for the tab key?11:24
enzo_I am under roto11:24
enzo_*root11:24
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_Mucki_hi11:24
miyako"of course I can explain where I've been... I was<tab><tab>"11:25
_Mucki_can anyone help me with cifs?11:25
Martijn81ok i might sound stupid, but where do i report a bug an launchpad, i seriously can' t find it11:26
frojndhtml so qute ;)11:26
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enzo_Is there a way to undo what I did manually?11:27
TrackilizerI just connected my ipod nano into kubuntu and now i have an ipod icon on my desktop, however how do i put songs onto it and remove them again? i'm looking for something like itunes for kubuntu.11:27
cpk2enzo_: did you backup your xorg.conf?11:27
enzo_I only changed one thing11:27
enzo_nv to nvidia11:28
_Mucki_i used to mount my samba share with smbfs, it was fine apart from the encoding, thats y i changed to cifs, there the encoding works fine but the file owner is root although i set uid and gid in the fstab, infact i only changed smbfs into cifs11:28
_Mucki_any1 got an idea?11:28
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Martijn81closed maybe?11:28
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lupine_85yes, just sed "s/nvidia/nv/" -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:28
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lupine_85or there might be a backup somewhere11:28
linnuxxythe toggle key for keyboard layout not working for me!!! i have to click the indicator in the task bar to change the keyboard layout!!!11:28
lupine_85check for the backup first :)11:28
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little_caesarwhere can I get synaptec package manager, since it didn't seem to come w/ kubuntu11:29
little_caesarI don't like adept11:29
enzo_yup11:29
enzo_I made a backup11:29
enzo_its the original one from the fresh install11:29
enzo_but cp won't work11:30
cpk2so just move the backup to xorg.conf and then you will be back to working11:30
graftlittle_caesar: just install it, sudo apt-get install synaptic11:30
little_caesarthanks11:30
enzo_cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf11:30
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cpk2enzo try mv11:30
h3sp4wnenzo_: Make sure you have dapper-security main restricted (in sources.list)11:30
enzo_cp: cannot create regular file `xorg.conf': Read-only file system11:31
enzo_I do have it, yes11:31
lupine_85hmm11:31
lupine_85usually the fs gets mounted ro when errors are detected11:31
enzo_cannot move11:31
enzo_read only11:31
h3sp4wnenzo_: Otherwise you will not have the suitable restricted modules for the kernel you are running (i.e nvidia.ko)11:31
lupine_85did you shut down properly?11:31
enzo_I did the CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE11:31
enzo_then I wasn't able to log back in11:32
lupine_85so you pulled the power?11:32
h3sp4wnenzo_: But X is now not running ?11:32
enzo_not running, no11:32
cpk2enzo_: why couldnt you log back in?11:33
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enzo_no clue11:33
h3sp4wnenzo_: sudo aptitude search restricted-modules~i11:33
enzo_doesn't say11:33
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Have you had the chance to do a 64Bit build of E17 yet ?11:33
enzo_aptitude: command not found11:33
cpk2enzo_:  tab complete apt11:34
lupine_85the first thing you need to do is get away from the ro filesystem11:34
enzo_nothing11:34
enzo_just beeps at me11:34
lupine_85the easiest way would be to reboot normally and let fsck run, then ctrl+alt+del it11:34
little_caesargraft: Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source11:34
graftlittle_caesar: um... seems unlikely...11:34
little_caesarE: Package synaptic has no installation candidate11:35
cpk2does tab complete even give you options if you try it without anything typed out?11:35
enzo_nope11:35
enzo_wait11:35
enzo_now it does11:35
h3sp4wnHawkwind: Not yet - do you need it to be signed ? (I will try and do it tommorow)11:35
enzo_Display all 390 possibilities? (y or n)11:35
trappistmine doesn't11:36
enzo_y11:36
trappist390?11:36
cpk2oh well thats good, 390 isnt very much11:36
graftlittle_caesar: did you update recently?11:36
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Up to you if you sign them.  If you do, I'll just a copy of the key .asc file to put on SoS with the packages as well11:36
little_caesarno11:36
little_caesargraft: maybe I need to add a repo which has it11:36
cpk2kind of wierd you dont have apt though11:36
graftlittle_caesar: well, why don't you update? sudo apt-get update11:36
little_caesarwhat are some of the repositories where to get it? all of mine are like security11:36
enzo_nope, no apt11:36
little_caesarfine. But I'm on dialup...11:36
enzo_alias, alsactl and arch11:36
graftlittle_caesar: you don't have the main repos?!11:36
little_caesarI have what it came with11:37
graftyeah, you do, then... just update11:37
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enzo_what's the command to restart x?11:38
cpk2i thought you said x wasnt running?11:38
enzo_its not11:38
enzo_just thought it might help/work11:38
HawkwindTo start it, startx11:38
HawkwindIf it's not running, you can't restart it11:38
little_caesar"Nothing to update. Good bye!"11:38
enzo_command not found11:38
little_caesarto graft11:38
cpk2i forgot the other command its init-rc touch something or other11:39
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little_caesarwell, you know. I wasn't able to get on the internet earlier. A lot of repos are commented out on sources.list11:39
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graftlittle_caesar: um, what are you using to update? i've never gotten that message11:40
cpk2ah i think its touch init-rc kdm11:40
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little_caesarI think that's why. Because sources.list says it wasn't able to verify it11:40
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little_caesarand, of course. How can you verify it without the internet?11:40
little_caesarI have no repos, I think11:40
little_caesarlol11:40
little_caesaruncommenting them. Seeing if that helps11:40
graftwell, that would do it11:40
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cpk2enzo_: does "touch init-rc kdm start" work?11:41
little_caesarwhen does it verify repos? Every time you open the package manager?11:41
enzo_nope11:41
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enzo_RO FS11:41
cpk2!tune2fs11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tune2fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
cpk2!fsck11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
enzo_want me to fsck?11:42
cpk2whats the usage for tune2fs?11:42
little_caesarlol11:42
enzo_it can do that11:42
cpk2might want to11:42
little_caesar!ubotu11:42
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:43
little_caesarwho are you11:43
royalok how do you install Wine off of a jump drive? (gateway linux computer has no internet access... only the windows computer has access and i'm using it)11:43
cpk2its easier if you use tune2fs and set the mount count to 99 then reboot11:43
enzo_tune2fs -C 9911:43
enzo_?11:43
cpk2i think so11:43
cpk2cant remember if its c or C11:44
enzo_-C mount_count11:44
enzo_-c max_mounts_count11:44
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purplehttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php11:44
purple:)11:44
cpk2yeah you want C11:44
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cpk2and set it to 99 then reboot11:44
cpk2it should fsck on startup then11:44
enzo_hmmm11:44
enzo_all it returned was       tune2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)11:45
cpk2it probably worked11:45
enzo_I'm rebooting now11:45
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enzo_recovery mode or regular boot?11:45
cpk2regular i suppose11:46
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enzo_ok11:46
enzo_seems to be going through now11:46
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enzo_but it usually fails after the fsck11:46
royalhow do you install Wine off of a jump drive? (gateway linux computer has no internet access... only the windows computer has access and i'm using it) I downloaded the file off of linuxgamers.net and now I want to know how to install it to my Kubuntu PC11:46
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cpk2fails?11:47
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enzo_yeah, after it goes 100% in fsck, it goes back to the blue Kubuntu splash screen (black background) and sits there... frozen11:47
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vgehey, how can i disable mousewheel that changes tabs when i use the weel ower them?11:51
enzo_does that make sense?11:51
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cpk2enzo_: jst oto a different terminal and i think do "touch init-rc kdm stop"11:52
cpk2just go to*11:52
enzo_can't at the moment11:53
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cpk2why not?11:53
enzo_85%11:53
cpk2oh ok11:53
enzo_.. /dev/hdb1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.11:53
cpk2but fsck doesnt find any bad blocks?11:53
enzo_well, that's done11:54
pierrethit is curious, I have a generic icon for my thunderbird window11:54
enzo_and again, I'm back to the blue kubuntu11:54
pierrethI have an X11:54
enzo_that won't go anywhere11:54
pierrethWhat could be wrong?11:54
enzo_doesn't seem to11:54
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enzo_and if I reboot right now, it will do it over again because it wasn't unmounted properly11:54
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enzo_and that just gets irritating after a while11:54
pierrethIn the K menu, I have the good icon11:55
cpk2go to a different terminal and try that stop command11:55
cpk2btw you can ctrl c fsck11:55
enzo_WTF???11:55
pierrethHow can I fix Thunderbird to have the proper icon?11:55
enzo_I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL and it goes through and rebotos11:55
enzo_*reboots11:55
cpk2you can ctrl c fsck11:55
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b_52Centosis there any correspondant of gDesklet11:56
b_52Centos?11:56
enzo_pierreth, right click on the thunderbird and select to edit the item, then click on the icon in the new window and scroll down to Thunderbird...11:56
b_52Centosin dke ?11:56
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enzo_Ummm...11:56
b_52Centoskde i mean11:56
pierrethenzo_: I have the right icon in the menu11:56
enzo_this time there was no check, but I'm still stuck out of X11:56
pierrethenzo_: The application itself does not have the good icon11:57
enzo_C+A+F1 is ok11:57
enzo_don't know about that, mine works fine11:57
pierrethenzo_: I have a the generic X Windows icon11:57
enzo_ok11:58
enzo_so now I can actually modify files11:58
arunkaleanyone here tried out drupal?11:58
enzo_no longer ROFS11:58
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enzo_sorry pierreth, can't help you with that... dunno how to change that11:59
cpk2so get the old xorg.conf in there and hopefully x will work again11:59
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pierrethenzo_: OK, it is weird bug11:59
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enzo_did that right now, and now I'm rebooting12:00
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enzo_I hope I can get X back12:00
enzo_all of this trouble for OpenGL12:00
enzo_UGH12:00
enzo_still not logging into X12:00
lupine_85does it say why?12:00
cpk2i think it just locks up before the gui login?12:01
lupine_85e.g. when s/he runs 'startx'12:01
enzo_yup12:01
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lupine_85it gives error messages which can be handy12:01
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enzo_Fatal server error:12:01
enzo_no screens found12:01
enzo_XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"12:02
enzo_after 0 requests (0 known processes) with 0 events remaining12:02
lupine_85the important error will be before that12:02
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enzo_that's my error when I go to C+A+F1 and type     startx12:02
lupine_85ok, check the log12:03
lupine_85 /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:03
enzo_right12:03
enzo_what am I looking for?12:03
cpk2the error12:03
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lupine_85any error :)12:03
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enzo_well, for starters, I think the big one here is that it says I have an ATI, rather than nVidia Device12:04
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halfbloodprinceanyone here used drupal?12:04
lupine_85well, yes12:05
enzo_EE No devices detected12:05
lupine_85in that case install the ATI drivers rather than the nvidia ones12:05
cpk2haha that might be a problem12:05
cpk2what does lspci say yo have?12:05
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enzo_VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]  (rev a1)12:07
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cpk2lupine_85: so he doesnt want the ati drivers =P12:07
lupine_85indeed12:07
lupine_85ok, what does "sudo modprobe nvidia" say?12:08
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enzo_nothing12:09
enzo_just returns to the prompt12:09
lupine_85in that case, you have the nvidia drivers installed OK12:09
enzo_ok12:09
lupine_85what does startx say now?12:09

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