[12:50] <Viper550> To kwwii about the panel background: We have a glossy logo, but a non glossy theme, isn't that still allowed?
[12:50] <kwwii> Viper550: the glossy logo is not shown on the desktop, and the theme is glossy, just look at the icons
[12:51] <Viper550> I meant the widgets...but are the icons still Crystal SVG?
[12:51] <kwwii> yepp
[12:52] <Viper550> Oh, I kinda thought it was going to be Crystal Diamond
[12:53] <Viper550> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=45576
[12:54] <kwwii> nope
[12:55] <Viper550> Oh...but still..if they can be optimized size wise, they might make a good idea for Edgy+1
[01:00] <kwwii> edgy+1 will be kde4, which will use oxygen
[01:01] <Viper550> Really? Will KDE 4 even be out by then?
[01:04] <kwwii> well, it will not be out until right at the release of edgy+1
[01:04] <kwwii> but the packages will be really good by then
[01:04] <kwwii> almost finished
[01:06] <Viper550> Ahh...okay?
[01:07] <kwwii> so there is no point in changing things on that level when it is the last of it's kind
[01:07] <Viper550> oh...
[01:07] <Viper550> Wait, will KDE3 icon schemes be compatible with KDE 4?
[01:08] <kwwii> nope
[01:08] <kwwii> well, maybe
[01:08] <kwwii> we might make a system to use them
[01:08] <kwwii> but we will change the naming soon
[01:10] <Viper550> Man, the migration to KDE 4 is going to be quite interesting
[01:10] <kwwii> yepp
[01:12] <Viper550> Hmm, wonder what the default theme will be like...
[01:12] <Viper550> Speaking of default themes, I remember you saying that there was going to be a custom Kubuntu style made?
[01:13] <kwwii> nope, never said that
[01:13] <kwwii> ;-)
[01:13] <kwwii> we have window buttons
[01:13] <kwwii> but no style
[01:13] <Viper550> oh...I must have overheard
[01:13] <kwwii> we are making an oxygen style
[01:14] <Viper550> for KDE4?
[01:16] <kwwii> eventually perhaps
[01:16] <Viper550> are there any pictures yet?
[01:18] <kwwii> nope
[01:18] <kwwii> we have code, but until we are closer to getting what we want we will not release a screenshot
[01:19] <Viper550> I hope it's glossy
[01:22] <Viper550> One more thing, you said the gradient and color scheme was updated for Knot 3?
[01:22] <kwwii> yepp
[01:22] <kwwii> http://bootsplash.org/snapshot2.png
[01:23] <kwwii> hehe, no window in that screen
[01:23] <Viper550> Yay, no more bronzed wallpaper!
[01:24] <kwwii> try this....same as before, only snapshot3.png
[01:25] <kwwii> http://bootsplash.org/snapshot3.png
[01:26] <Viper550> Erm, is it me, or is the new gradient a cross between what we had earlier and simple lighting?
[01:27] <kwwii> no idea, I just made it so it looked decent to me
[01:27] <Viper550> Actually looks a bit...weird
[01:28] <kwwii> hehe
[01:28] <Viper550> If you want, here's the overlay I use: http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7435_gradientoverlay.png
[01:29] <kwwii> nice, but I like something a bit different
[01:30] <Viper550> I might wanna try making something a bit more like what you have there...
[01:33] <Viper550> What I'm making now is a bit simliar to the appearance of Lipstik's widgets
[01:38] <kwwii> cool
[01:38] <kwwii> time for bed
[01:38] <kwwii> see you
[01:38] <Viper550> cya
[10:19] <lapo> hi
[06:30] <bersace> troy_s: hi brother !
[06:30] <bersace> :P
[06:32] <kwwii_> hehe
[09:32] <PingunZ> ping Seveas
[09:32] <Seveas> Ping unZ
[09:32] <PingunZ> :)
[09:33] <PingunZ> I'm on edgy again, How can I finally get the usplash-theme working ?
[09:33] <Seveas> apt-get install usplash usplash-theme-ubuntu
[09:34] <PingunZ> Seveas, That's it ?
[09:35] <PingunZ> No vga="x" in menu.lst ?
[09:35] <Seveas> no
[09:36] <Seveas> vga= things may actually break it
[09:36] <PingunZ> Ok, I'm going to reboot then ;)
[09:36] <PingunZ> Ah, I'll see if I haven't got it enabled then
[09:37] <PingunZ> Ok, brb
[09:41] <PingunZ> Seveas, If you're not kidding, and you don't mean the ugly tv-testscreen-like usplash, then its not working :)
[09:42] <Seveas> PingunZ, dpkg -l '*usplash*' | grep usplash
[09:42] <PingunZ> ii  usplash              0.4-24         Userspace bootsplash utility
[09:42] <PingunZ> ii  usplash-theme-ubuntu 0.1-1          Usplash theme for Ubuntu
[09:42] <Seveas> ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[09:43] <PingunZ> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2006-09-10 22:26 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so
[09:43] <Seveas> hmm
[09:43] <Seveas> update-alternatives --list usplash-artwork.spo
[09:43] <Seveas> update-alternatives --list usplash-artwork.so
[09:43] <PingunZ> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-ubuntu.so
[09:44] <Seveas> odd -- a symlink isn't getting corrected there
[09:44] <Seveas> are you on x86?
[09:44] <PingunZ> yup
[09:44] <PingunZ> uname[Linux Edgy 2.6.17-7-386 #2 Wed Sep 6 17:53:03 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux] 
[09:44] <Seveas> wget http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/usplash-switcher
[09:45] <Seveas> chmod +x usplash_switcher
[09:45] <Seveas> chmod +x usplash-switcher
[09:45] <Seveas> sudo ./usplash-switcher
[09:45] <Seveas> select the theme and click 'switch'
[09:46] <PingunZ> Wow, great app
[09:46] <PingunZ> I taught you weren't releasing it ?
[09:46] <Seveas> I'm not
[09:46] <PingunZ> Done !
[09:46] <Seveas> I'm just providing the binary and source
[09:46] <Seveas> if you wanna call that releasing... ;)
[09:46] <Seveas> PingunZ, then it should work now
[09:46] <PingunZ> ^^
[09:46] <PingunZ> Ok, reboot :)
[09:49] <PingunZ> Seveas, its working !
[09:49] <Seveas> as i expected
[09:49] <Seveas> now to figure out what the symlink is doing
[09:49] <PingunZ> Thanks man, nice work !!
[09:51] <PingunZ> Ok, now, I have like a dark-brown border around the lighter-brown .. is that normal ?
[09:51] <Seveas> cat /etc/usplash.conf
[09:51] <PingunZ> xres=1280
[09:51] <PingunZ> yres=1024
[09:51] <Seveas> yeahm than it's noral
[09:52] <Seveas> normal*
[09:52] <PingunZ> Ok :)
[09:52] <PingunZ> Ok, now I want to make my own theme :D I just want to use a background image ( instead of the light and dark-brown.
[09:52] <PingunZ> And make the throbber blue
[09:52] <PingunZ> is that possible ?
[09:52] <PingunZ>  // much work ,
[09:53] <PingunZ> *?
[09:53] <Seveas> possible and not too much work
[09:53] <Seveas> look at thes source for the existing themes
[09:58] <PingunZ> Ok :)
[09:59] <PingunZ> First I'm finishing my grub splash, then I'll make my gsplash and then I'll try to make a Usplash
[09:59] <PingunZ> *linux is full of splashes
[11:43] <Viper550> kwwii, if you were to use my overlay, you would have to tweak the buttons a but
[11:43] <Viper550> *bit