[07:35] <nixternal> hiya jsgotangco!
[07:35] <jsgotangco> nixternal: hey dude how's it going
[07:35] <jsgotangco> (pretty busy as hell on my side)
[07:35] <nixternal> working on Knot 3 release notes
[07:35] <nixternal> same here
[07:36] <nixternal> i can't wait until next month...edgy will be out, and we will have that 1 month lull around here ;)
[07:36] <jsgotangco> i'm trying to get 1,000 machines for distribution to public schools get installed with edubuntu in a sane way
[07:37] <nixternal> you know what...i remember \sh in #kubuntu-devel working on a project that did a mass install rather quickly..i cannot remember his project, but if you skim through http://planet.kubuntu.de and check out some of his older posts, you might run into it
[07:37] <nixternal> they supposedly installed to a ton of machines in like an hour or something rediculous like that
[07:38] <jsgotangco> havent seen the actual hardware yet, but will start shipping tomorrow
[07:38] <jsgotangco> nixternal: i think you should go to UDS Mountain View
[07:39] <nixternal> when is it?
[07:39] <jsgotangco> nov. 5-10 i think
[07:39] <nixternal> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/227-This-weeks-action.html
[07:40] <nixternal> One of our milestones was it to install a couple of hundred servers in less then 10 minutes with FAI (Fully Automatic Installation).
[07:40] <nixternal> in california ey...i will have to look into that
[07:40] <jsgotangco> yes FAI is part of the solution
[07:40] <nixternal> i haven't messed with it yet..but i am going to try it out in a similar situation as you, only 50+ machines
[07:42] <jsgotangco> heh
[07:46] <LaserJock> I'd like to get edgy to work on 2+ machines ;-)
[07:54] <nixternal> they need to do a UDS Chicago already ;)
[07:54] <nixternal> it is kind of hard to travel right now...i am in 15 credit hours worth of crap ;)
[07:55] <LaserJock> are you working full time too?
[07:56] <nixternal> not really
[07:56] <nixternal> i have my clients, and they are all good...i only deal with the now when they have issues...so i put in about 15+ hours a week at most
[07:56] <nixternal> im living off the GI bill now
[07:57] <nixternal> my schooling is free from the Illinois Veterans Grant..so the GI Bill is cash in the pocket
[07:57] <nixternal> 6 credit hours though are easy
[07:57] <nixternal> the other 9 suck
[07:58] <nixternal> Ubuntu is my full time job...trying to work in deals locally, and doing my installs and support...every CD i hand out has my info..and I have been supporting those people who are switching
[07:58] <nixternal> and here with you guys of course ;)
[07:59] <LaserJock> mhm
[07:59] <jsgotangco> heh  nice model!
[07:59] <LaserJock> I think when I was an undergrad the lightest load I had was 18 credits
[08:00] <LaserJock> but I was trying to do a double major in 4 years and I didn't have a job
[08:00] <nixternal> that is nuts
[08:00] <LaserJock> all science too ;-)
[08:00] <nixternal> ya, im doing a double major as well, and one is a 2yr program to finish my MBA
[08:00] <nixternal> so i have 2 more semesters after this and I will be done with the MBA
[08:00] <LaserJock> very nice
[08:01] <nixternal> then I am going to finish this CS stuff, and maybe go for my final degree maybe
[08:01] <jsgotangco> i wish i had the current resources to do that stuff
[08:01] <LaserJock> I'm always thinking of degrees I'd like to get
[08:02] <nixternal> i gotta work on public speaking...i gave a speech yesterday to about 250 local state reps, and i shat myself..almost got stage fright
[08:02] <LaserJock> but I gotta get out of school sometime
[08:02] <LaserJock> 250 is a lot of people though
[08:02] <nixternal> see..i wish i would have done the schooling almost instead of the military..but then again..the military is what is putting me through school now
[08:02] <jsgotangco> that's nothing i spoke to 500+ people in korea
[08:02] <nixternal> i would be totally done, probably Dr. Rich by now ;)
[08:03] <LaserJock> mhm
[08:03] <nixternal> jsgotangco: i envy you guys for that
[08:03] <LaserJock> hopefully by Edgy+2 I'll be Dr. LaserJock
[08:03] <LaserJock> ;-)
[08:03] <jsgotangco> nixternal: just do it when you have the chance and it just becomes natural
[08:03] <nixternal> i am a horrible public speaker in front of people i don't know..now at the LUGs and Ubuntu meetings where we are about 50 deep I am ok
[08:03] <nixternal> that is sweet LaserJock, i am going for it one of these days as well..if time permits of course
[08:04] <nixternal> i may be 50 when it happens, but it will happen
[08:05] <LaserJock> I should have it by 25 which was my goal
[08:06] <LaserJock> but who knows, maybe I'll ditch the chemistry thing and work for Mark
[08:06] <nixternal> what days are people planning on arriving out there?
[08:06] <LaserJock> Mountain View?
[08:06] <nixternal> ya
[08:06] <LaserJock> I would guess the 4th
[08:07] <nixternal> the 4th and 5th are possibly my only open days..unless we have the Ubuntu Chicago Show that weekend
[08:07] <nixternal> damn..and I think we are
[08:08] <LaserJock> maybe you could get an exuse note signed by Mark
[08:08] <LaserJock> ;-)
[08:08] <nixternal> lol
[08:10] <nixternal> $223 round trip, arrive friday the 3rd at 9:35, and arrive back here in chicago on monday at 1pm...right before school...i know though..that once i was there..i wouldn't leave..adn i would be in toruble
[08:10] <nixternal> plus..i would stay with a girlfriend out there as well
[08:11] <nixternal> maybe i can get a sponsor..as i will be flat broke, because i will be arriving from mexico the week or so prior ;)
[08:11] <LaserJock> ditch Mexico, this is Ubuntu we're talking about :-)
[08:11] <jsgotangco> apply for sponsorship then
[08:12] <jsgotangco> i doubt you'll get denied sponsorship considering its in the same continent
[08:12] <jsgotangco> and LaserJock won't have his wallet picked for sure
[08:12] <nixternal> oh i could never ditch mexico..it is the Birthday Bash..i haven't missed one in 10 years now
[08:13] <nixternal> heh, i had my wallet picked once..in London with my x-wife and daughter as well..dude was crafty
[08:13] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: you know it
[08:13] <nixternal> i didn't feel a thing..at least in Atlanta the guy knocked me out
[08:13] <nixternal> and all he got was $1
[08:13] <nixternal> haha
[08:14] <LaserJock> yeah, well the guy in Paris got a lot more then that
[08:14] <nixternal> oooh
[08:14] <nixternal> that sucks
[08:14] <LaserJock> btw, jsgotangco what a fine picture of you and Matt and Aaron on fridge ;-)
[08:14] <nixternal> ya, the guy in london got over $1000 if i remember correctly
[08:14] <LaserJock> yikes
[08:15] <nixternal> buy guess what...my american express covered everything..just like in the commercials
[08:15] <jsgotangco> hmm what's the package i need to be able to play unencrypted dvds?
[08:15] <nixternal> ya..my x-wife used to live in london, and it was her idea to bring all that cash..as the people in london are way to nice to knock you out and steal your cash ;)
[08:15] <LaserJock> I lost my credit cards, driver's license, and a little over $100
[08:16] <nixternal> i should have known better..i have seen movies like snatch, and locked stock and 2 smoking barrels or whatever it was called ;)
[08:16] <nixternal> and trainspotter
[08:16] <nixternal> heh, i wonder if identity theft is huge over there?
[08:16] <nixternal> someone stole my identify a few years back..and i claimed all of his income on my taxes
[08:17] <nixternal> he made some good money too...about $50k
[08:17] <nixternal> so i figure i probably got an extra $500 or so back in taxes because of him
[08:17] <nixternal> hell..it happened to my brother and my mom as well
[08:19] <LaserJock> shesh
[08:19] <LaserJock> terrible
[08:20] <LaserJock> of course you won't find pickpocketers in the Bay area
[08:20] <LaserJock> they are subsidized by the government :-)
[08:20] <nixternal> i think that once i am done with all my schooling...i am probably heading to either Spain, Greece, or Greece ;)
[08:20] <nixternal> haha
[08:21] <nixternal> ya, i was just there last year for an interview at the lusterous googleplex
[08:21] <LaserJock> my grandpa saw one of the streat performers drive off in a BMW after he was done for the day
[08:22] <nixternal> oh wow...Chicago will outdo that one...Channel 5 news followed 5 "bums" from their posts near Union Station, to their million dollar homes in Naperville, Buffalo Grove, and other towns
[08:22] <LaserJock> heh
[08:22] <LaserJock> at least in Paris they did a decent show
[08:22] <nixternal> channel 5 news..if you are bogus they will get you
[08:22] <LaserJock> there was a lady on the train playing a flute that was nice
[08:23] <nixternal> well..i was in paris 3 years ago..and i went up against some people pissed off at the US
[08:23] <nixternal> the police wouldn't even help me
[08:23] <LaserJock> heh
[08:23] <nixternal> my x-wife and daughter got away and into a building..but since they speak greek fluently..they are safe pretty much
[08:23] <nixternal> not i
[08:23] <nixternal> i looked like a pumpkin after that one
[08:23] <nixternal> i even had women kickin' my butt
[08:24] <LaserJock> heh
[08:24] <LaserJock> poor guy
[08:24] <jsgotangco> heh
[08:24] <nixternal> you want to know what started it..i was wrong though
[08:24] <nixternal> this guy was taking a pic of the eiffel
[08:24] <jsgotangco> like when we were in paris, there were this group beating the crap out of a guy in the streets
[08:24] <nixternal> and i said it didn't have "sh!7" on the sears tower
[08:24] <jsgotangco> along the seine
[08:24] <nixternal> that is all it took
[08:24] <nixternal> haha, and sebas was the hero!
[08:25] <LaserJock> yeah, I didn't hear about that until after I don't think
[08:25] <LaserJock> poor guy
[08:25] <LaserJock> well, Paris was my first trip outside the US really
[08:26] <LaserJock> it was interesting for sure
[08:26] <nixternal> hehe
[08:26] <LaserJock> but I don't have a huge desire to go to Paris for a little while a least
[08:26] <nixternal> i don't like the big city of france, but the country side is so beautiful there..and the same with germany
[08:26] <nixternal> but i love spain and greece the most over there
[08:26] <nixternal> give me the med and im good
[08:27] <nixternal> france has the most awesome little villages...if you speak english you are screwed...i would just put money out an dpoint to things on the menu
[08:28] <nixternal> but if i am going to stay in the US..i have to move to either the Carolinas, Georgia, or Southern Cal..I can't stand the Chicago area any more..politics here are getting bad
[08:29] <nixternal> So, it is either those states, Mexico, Greece, or Spain when school is out
[08:29] <jsgotangco> nixternal: come to hong kong or manila one time
[08:30] <nixternal> i have been to the PI in the navy
[08:30] <nixternal> very briefly
[08:30] <nixternal> didn't get to see anything
[08:30] <nixternal> 1994 was about the time frame
[08:30] <jsgotangco> you've probably just went to the bars in clark or subic
[08:30] <jsgotangco> :D
[08:30] <nixternal> i didn't even hit a bar
[08:30] <nixternal> we went in, to meet the "lady prez" at the time..i forgot her name
[08:31] <nixternal> pick up stuff and leave
[08:31] <jsgotangco> aquino?
[08:31] <nixternal> i can't remember..she was very popular then as well
[08:31] <nixternal> i would remember though if i heard it
[08:31] <nixternal> 1994-1996 time frame maybe
[08:32] <nixternal> 1991-1993 was the Persian Gulf
[08:32] <nixternal> and it was after that
[08:35] <LaserJock> nixternal: move to Montana with the rest of us freaks ;-)
[08:35] <nixternal> im down with that
[08:36] <nixternal> i was just there a not even a year ago for my buddies wedding
[08:36] <LaserJock> I visit places, but Montana is still home for me
[08:37] <nixternal> montana has the greatest mountain ranges i have seen i think
[08:37] <LaserJock> but of course ;-)
[08:37] <nixternal> when you get upon a valley..my god it goes on for miles
[08:37] <nixternal> it is the most beautiful...in the early spring, and right before winter..actually right about now
[08:37] <nixternal> with the leaves turning
[08:37] <LaserJock> I grew up on a ranch
[08:38] <nixternal> that rocks
[08:38] <LaserJock> 5 mi x 30 mi
[08:38] <nixternal> jeesh
[08:38] <LaserJock> it was a whole valley
[08:38] <nixternal> branch, not a ranch ;)
[08:38] <nixternal> the dividians
[08:38] <nixternal> davidians
[08:38] <LaserJock> and ~ 10-15 people lived in that area
[08:56] <nixternal> hiya Burgundavia!
[08:56] <nixternal> how is the knot stuff going for you guys?
[08:56] <nixternal> i was loving this Ubuntu look here until they plastered the "Artwork Review" on the sweetness of a wally
[08:58] <Burgundavia> I hate those
[08:58] <Burgundavia> makes screenshots harder
[08:58] <Burgundavia> was out tonight, so our knot page will have to wait until then
[08:58] <nixternal> oh ya..i rememer you saying you were going to be afk
[08:59] <nixternal> well i have Ubuntu Edgy Knot 3 freeze running..so if you need something, let me know
[08:59] <Burgundavia> ok, why is dns failing
[08:59] <nixternal> hmm..i should create one in vmware
[09:16] <nixternal> g'nite!
[02:06] <Riddell> Burgwork: when is the UWN meeting?
[03:26] <Riddell> rob: could you give me that funky more then 20 channel privilage?
[06:46] <Burgwork> Riddell, tonight
[06:46] <Riddell> Burgwork: 02:00UTC?
[06:47] <Burgwork> 6pm PTD which is 1am UTC
[06:47] <Riddell> ok
[06:47] <lloydinho> Burgwork, did you see the mail I sent about finishing up before doc freeze?
[06:47] <Burgwork> lloydinho, when did you send it?
[06:47] <lloydinho> A few hours ago to the doc list.
[06:48] <lloydinho> uh... around 10 UTC
[06:48] <Burgwork> I have not yet read my email
[06:49] <lloydinho> ah.. okay. It's just kind of a "somebody with commit rights and clue - help me!" kind of mail.
[06:49] <lloydinho> Let me know if you can help me out.
[06:49] <nixternal> i already committed it
[07:40] <lloydinho> nixternal, awesome.
[07:41] <lloydinho> I guess I really should start subscribing to the doc-commits list as well.
[07:41] <nixternal> ;)
[07:41] <nixternal> it isn't the busiest, but it lets you know to "svn up"
[07:42] <lloydinho> which is what I just did. :-)
[07:43] <lloydinho> nixternal, would you know anything about testing the .omf files I changed for the front page?
[07:45] <nixternal> can't say that i do....but i am going to look into after class tonight...it is something i want to learn ;)
[07:46] <lloydinho> cool. I also attached two patches to the "Finishing the Ubuntu-docs for Edgy" mail I sent out.
[07:46] <lloydinho> One for the .OMF files (all except the Switching guide which I know nothing of) and one for the ADSL USB modems section of the Desktop guide.
[07:47] <lloydinho> Hope you'll have time to look at them as well. :-)
[07:51] <LaserJock> lloydinho: sorry I've been worthless on this contributing doc :(
[07:52] <lloydinho> LaserJock, hey - no worries. You've been all kinds of busy with other stuff.
[07:53] <lloydinho> And I've had plenty of other people to help me with the committing and all that.
[07:54] <lloydinho> BTW. LaserJock : you wouldn't happen to know the answers to the questions I asked in that email I sent out to the list?
[07:55] <LaserJock> hang on let me check, I've got a bit of an email backlog from -doc ;-)
[07:55] <lloydinho> heh. 
[07:57] <LaserJock> lloydinho: argg, what was the title of the email, you are  sending too many ;-)
[07:58] <lloydinho> heh. From today: "Finishing the Ubuntu-docs for Edgy"
[07:59] <lloydinho> LaserJock, with mdke on holiday, I promised to have a look at getting everything ready for packaging, so that's the reason for all the email.
[07:59] <LaserJock> ah
[08:01] <LaserJock> we seriously need more time for docs
[08:05] <lloydinho> well, it seems that this has been a very lazy cycle. We'll need to put in a serious effort for the Furious Fruitfly if we'll go through reorganizing the docs from books to context-based articles.
[08:06] <Burgwork> lloydinho, furious fruitfly?
[08:06] <lloydinho> heh. Or Flashy Ferret or whatever.
[08:07] <lloydinho> It's more fun than saying edgy +1 and it creates RUMOURS. ;-)
[08:19] <trappist> Flamboyant Flamingo would be fabulous
[08:21] <LaserJock> Fabulous Flamboyant Flamingo
[09:26] <lloydinho> LaserJock, did you get around to taking a look at the mail?
[09:28] <LaserJock> yeah
[09:28] <LaserJock> the omf question?
[09:28] <lloydinho> right.
[09:29] <LaserJock> I just really don't know :/
[09:30] <LaserJock> mdke has always handled the omf stuff
[09:30] <lloydinho> hmmmmm..
[09:30] <lloydinho> not ideal.
[09:31] <LaserJock> when is mdke going to be back?
[09:32] <lloydinho> not for another week or so.
[09:32] <LaserJock> well, this sucks
[09:32] <LaserJock> we are not ready for doc freeze at all
[09:32] <LaserJock> and mdke is gone
[09:32] <lloydinho> I'll try heading over to the GIMPNet and see if any of the Yelp guys can help me out.
[09:33] <lloydinho> LaserJock, about the patches I sent out with the mail - can you have look at them and commit them if they look good to you?
[09:34] <LaserJock> k
 It's more fun than saying edgy +1 and it creates RUMOURS. ;-)
[09:55] <nixternal> LOL!!!
[09:55] <lloydinho> :-)
[09:56] <nixternal> is anyone going to review the ADSL and OMF for the Ubuntu side of things?
[09:56] <nixternal> dude..im clueless sometimes
[09:56] <nixternal> don't worry about the ADSL stuff..that i can handle ;)
[09:57] <nixternal> the .omf though, i have no stinkin' clue..that is a new one for me
[09:58] <lloydinho> nixternal, I'm talking to the guys in the GNOME docs section and they'll hopefully walk me through it.
[09:59] <nixternal> cool
[10:22] <purple> hi all
[10:23] <purple> cansomebody paste mi a link to repository of latest kde 3.5.4 to install it on dapper?
[10:28] <lloydinho> hi purple, you might try the #kubuntu channel for kubuntu support. :-)
[10:28] <purple> i runnung UBUNTU
[10:28] <purple> and want to install KDE enviroment
[10:29] <LaserJock> purple: then install kubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <purple> but it installs only 3.5.2
[10:30] <purple> i want latest
[10:33] <LaserJock> well ...
[10:33] <LaserJock> edgy has kde 3.5.4
[10:34] <purple> i installed it few days ago on 6.06.1 but i lost link
[10:39] <rob> Riddell: done