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| mvirkkil | The zd1211rw driver is trying to load the firmware from /lib/firmware/zd1211/zd1211b_ub and failing with return code -2 | 01:47 |
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| mvirkkil | Any suggestions? | 01:47 |
| crimsun | well, it's the wrong dir for one | 01:50 |
| mvirkkil | crimsun: yes, that's what I figured :) I'll bug BenC about it tomorrow. | 01:58 |
| BenC | mjg59: ping | 02:45 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Hi | 02:46 |
| BenC | mjg59: that console patch for that bug, it touches code that I don't even have enabled since I did the console-power patch the last time | 02:49 |
| BenC | mjg59: should I revert my patch and add this one? | 02:49 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Console patch for which bug? | 02:49 |
| BenC | 59851 | 02:49 |
| BenC | the one you mentioned earlier | 02:49 |
| mjg59 | Erm, hang on | 02:50 |
| mjg59 | I thought that was just ACPI/SATA integration | 02:50 |
| mjg59 | Oh | 02:50 |
| mjg59 | He's pointed at an entirely unrelated patch | 02:50 |
| mjg59 | Sorry | 02:50 |
| BenC | should I take the patch anyway? :) | 02:51 |
| mjg59 | Nope | 02:51 |
| mjg59 | http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/rpms/kernel/FC-5/linux-2.6-sata-ahci-suspend.patch?rev=1.1&view=markup looks like a better bet | 02:53 |
| mjg59 | It's still not the one we want, but we probably /do/ want that one :) | 02:54 |
| BenC | does it fix that bug? | 02:55 |
| mjg59 | Probably, yeah | 02:55 |
| mjg59 | Though we also want the sata acpi stuff | 02:55 |
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| zul | BenC: when is the t1 connection coming | 03:04 |
| BenC | zul: 11/02 | 03:05 |
| zul | cool | 03:05 |
| BenC | can't wait to watch them run copper through the cow pastures | 03:06 |
| zul | heh you'll have to take pictures | 03:06 |
| BenC | mjg59: patch applied | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Ta | 03:12 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I'm working on the sata-acpi patch | 03:12 |
| BenC | ok | 03:12 |
| BenC | Trying to upload by Friday, for reference | 03:12 |
| BenC | Friday or Saturday | 03:12 |
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| mjg59 | Oh argh this is awkward | 03:22 |
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| zul | BenC: ping | 03:41 |
| BenC | zul: aye | 03:41 |
| zul | xt_tables_info didnt come until 2.6.16 did it | 03:41 |
| zul | stupid netfilter | 03:42 |
| BenC | I think so, yeah | 03:42 |
| zul | hmmm...then why am i killing myself over this stupid patch (hypothetical) for amd64 | 03:43 |
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| mvirkkil | Would anyone be interested in helping me get to the bottom of the issues mentioned at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/60222 ? | 03:17 |
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| zul | Mithrandir: will take a look in a little bit | 03:23 |
| Mithrandir | zul: hmm? You meant mvirkkil ? | 03:23 |
| === mvirkkil is hoping that he did | ||
| zul | Mithrandir: yeah i did | 03:31 |
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| kbyrd | BenC: got a sec? | 03:55 |
| BenC | yeah | 03:55 |
| kbyrd | How do you want the vmware-server sources? | 03:56 |
| kbyrd | Just the sources? or the debian directory too? | 03:56 |
| mvirkkil | BenC: This is probably of interest to you https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/60222 ? | 03:57 |
| kbyrd | *click* | 03:57 |
| BenC | just sources | 03:57 |
| kbyrd | ok, but remember the resulting player-kernel and server-kernel modules need to conflict with each other. | 03:58 |
| BenC | yes, that's no problem | 03:58 |
| kbyrd | I'll have a URL for you in a bit. | 03:58 |
| fabbione | BenC: did you remember to pull/merge from me? | 04:00 |
| fabbione | BenC: or do you want me to merge from you and re-push? | 04:00 |
| BenC | fabbione: Got it | 04:01 |
| fabbione | BenC: thanks | 04:01 |
| BenC | mvirkkil: will fix it now | 04:01 |
| mvirkkil | BenC: Any hints what might be causing the trouble I'm having (mentioned in the comment)? | 04:02 |
| mvirkkil | I'll gladly debug this as to the best of my abilities, but I just don't have a clue what to do next, | 04:04 |
| mvirkkil | I've tested the dongle in windows using the same AP and the same settings (afaict), and it works there. | 04:05 |
| BenC | MODULE_AUTHOR("Ulrich Kunitz"); | 04:05 |
| BenC | MODULE_AUTHOR("Daniel Drake"); | 04:05 |
| BenC | contact one of them | 04:05 |
| mvirkkil | BenC: ok. | 04:05 |
| mvirkkil | BenC: When can I expect the fixed version (re the firmware issue) to be downloadable? | 04:10 |
| BenC | I'm uploading on Friday, so sometime after that (day or two) | 04:11 |
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| pitti | hi | 04:12 |
| pitti | BenC: not sure whether you are aware of it, zul's last breezy kernel has a strange FTBFS | 04:12 |
| pitti | BenC: do you have some time today to take a look at it? | 04:12 |
| pitti | BenC: (I bounced you the log, same failure on all arches) | 04:13 |
| pitti | BenC, zul: I know I'm getting on your nerves, but I'd like to see this update pushed out soon :/ | 04:13 |
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| zul | pitti: the patch that we included for the ebtables only one of them applies | 04:17 |
| BenC | I'll take a quick peek | 04:18 |
| zul | see this patch http://70.29.61.171/ubuntu/kernel/ebtables-2.dpatch | 04:18 |
| BenC | pitti: where did you send the email? | 04:18 |
| BenC | s/where/when/ | 04:19 |
| BenC | I don't seem to have it | 04:19 |
| zul | this is the one causing the problem the second chunks are causing the problems because the struct doesnt exist | 04:19 |
| pitti | BenC: some minutes ago | 04:19 |
| infinity | Is this the part where I (again) beg people to test build before uploading? :) | 04:19 |
| zul | infinity: probably | 04:20 |
| BenC | infinity: That doesn't seem to help me when buildd scripts break my broken stuff :) | 04:22 |
| infinity | BenC: Heh. | 04:23 |
| kbyrd | infinity, benc: email sent with the URL to the vmware-server-kernel sources, thanks. | 04:24 |
| BenC | kbyrd: thanks, since next kernel is an ABI bump, it's an opportune time to put it in | 04:25 |
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| BenC | I'll probably include it with the kernel upload on Friday | 04:25 |
| kbyrd | Nice. If I can get out from underneath my current schedule pressure on a different product, I'll actually get a vmware-server package together, and maybe fix a lot of the mess with vmware-player. | 04:25 |
| kbyrd | One nice thing about the next vmware-player package, we move the EULA out of the package and into the UI. | 04:26 |
| BenC | kbyrd: One thing I noticed about vmware-player is that it is a little broken on amd64 | 04:29 |
| BenC | I needed to create some symlinks for gdk stuff to the path it expected so it would work | 04:29 |
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| BenC | but I've been using it since creating those vmware-player-kernel and updated vmware-player packages | 04:29 |
| kbyrd | If you get a chance, email me the details. | 04:29 |
| kbyrd | I'm running 64-bit UI but it's from an internal branch. | 04:30 |
| zul | bbl...need to go to the doctor with the wifey | 04:30 |
| kbyrd | Before that, I ran the release version and it ran fine with the ia32-libs installed. | 04:31 |
| kbyrd | Wait. I remember now. Something recently happend with a c++ lib, right? | 04:31 |
| kbyrd | That is, I had to move a library on my amd64 bit system to force player to use the right library. | 04:32 |
| BenC | infinity: FYI, I am moving all firmware to lrm next time around | 05:16 |
| BenC | I think | 05:17 |
| BenC | It means moving nic-firmware udeb to lrm as well | 05:17 |
| Mithrandir | that'll cause a lot of systems which work today and which haven't lrm installed to break. | 05:17 |
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| infinity | BenC: Did you discuss this with mdz? That's a pretty drastic change. | 05:18 |
| BenC | we discussed it a bit in germany | 05:18 |
| infinity | BenC: Also, lrm already has a nic-restricted-firmware udeb. | 05:18 |
| BenC | I need to finalize it with him and you | 05:18 |
| infinity | So, you'll just be beefing it up, I suspect. | 05:18 |
| BenC | Mith's argument is my main concern | 05:18 |
| BenC | so it might just be edgy+1 | 05:18 |
| BenC | but the "Ubuntu GNU/Linux" dream would require this change | 05:19 |
| Keybuk | couldn't we have a linux-firmware package instead? | 05:21 |
| Keybuk | that at least makes it obvious | 05:21 |
| BenC | yeah, would trim down the install base for people that don't need all of lrm | 05:24 |
| BenC | build it right out of lrm, and have linux-restricted-modules depend on it | 05:25 |
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| Keybuk | JanC: most firmware doesn't even have source code | 05:33 |
| Keybuk | the binary blob _is_ the preferred form of editing for it | 05:33 |
| Keybuk | half the time, it had some source, which was compiled, then hand edited for size, and then binary patched subsequently | 05:34 |
| Keybuk | etc. | 05:34 |
| Keybuk | I know one firm that do the first version in C, then strip all the calling conventions just leaving the asm | 05:34 |
| Keybuk | and then edit that from there on | 05:34 |
| Keybuk | etc. | 05:34 |
| Keybuk | silly really | 05:35 |
| JanC | well, even then the assembler source could be "open source" | 05:35 |
| JanC | even if no one understands anymore what it does ;-) | 05:36 |
| Keybuk | assembler source is the binary | 05:37 |
| Keybuk | it's a 1:1 match | 05:37 |
| Keybuk | consider a firmware blob to be a .png file | 05:37 |
| Keybuk | you open it, modify it, and save it again | 05:37 |
| infinity | In the cases where that's truly the case, it's fine, really. | 05:37 |
| JanC | except that assembler source _can_ be documented | 05:37 |
| Keybuk | infinity: I would be very surprised if there were cases where that wasn't the case | 05:38 |
| infinity | But we ship some firmware without free licenses, and just turn a blind eye, currently. | 05:38 |
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| Keybuk | JanC: true, but hardware companies don't | 05:38 |
| JanC | well, that's exactly what I was wondering: why don't they release documented assembler source? | 05:39 |
| JanC | if it's GPL'ed, they could even benefit from it | 05:39 |
| JanC | people could fix bugs that make even their Windows drivers work better ;-) | 05:40 |
| Keybuk | JanC: because they've never written any documented assembler source? | 05:41 |
| JanC | I guess it's not that difficult to insert the original C-comments into the assembler to start with, but they probably really don't care... | 05:44 |
| BenC | zul: ping | 05:54 |
| mdz | BenC: I don't recall the firmware discussion; what's the rationale? | 05:56 |
| BenC | mdz: It was more of a passing conversation than a discussion :) | 05:56 |
| mdz | BenC: also, there seems to be a delay in your email; your last couple of replies have been old, and I've received no reply to my most recent emails | 05:57 |
| BenC | there was talk about Ubuntu GNU/Linux, and the topic of the firmware in the kernel came up | 05:57 |
| BenC | mdz: It's either my smtp server, or direcway's...I'll see if I can rule out mine | 05:57 |
| BenC | hmm...smtp.direcway.com is rejecting most of my outgoing mail | 06:04 |
| BenC | "Contains FortiGuard URL's" | 06:05 |
| BenC | stupid | 06:05 |
| BenC | interesting | 06:09 |
| BenC | I'm being used to bounce emails somehow | 06:10 |
| JanC | FortiGuard is some anti-virus &anti-spam filter ? | 06:12 |
| BenC | it's direcway's filter catching emails coming from my smtp server that are being relayed for some outside hosts | 06:13 |
| JanC | if you don't use FortiGuard, their filter is broken :-P | 06:16 |
| JanC | well, my ISP's filter is broken too, but fortunately I can disable it, and i also have a (secured) relay on a dedicated server that I rent with some friends... | 06:18 |
| BenC | it's not broken, it's absolutely right | 06:21 |
| BenC | I have email being relayed off my smtp server | 06:21 |
| BenC | and I don't know why because I have relay hosts set to my internal network only...I think it may be something with my TLS config changes to exim causing it | 06:21 |
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| zul | BenC: pong | 07:00 |
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| lupine_85 | hi, quick question about the edgy rt2x00 legacy drivers... | 07:42 |
| lupine_85 | ...is it really necessary to continue to use the July 2005 codebase for them? e.g. rt2400 is "Ralink RT2400 802.11b WLAN driver 1.2.2 - CVS 2005/07/11" | 07:44 |
| lupine_85 | the later code - even the newest beta - is much more stable, especially for the rt2570 driver | 07:44 |
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| zul | BenC: can you revert this patch as well http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=commit;h=5aae548f78f22a7069342fecad3f9e2e8d308c55 | 08:32 |
| zul | is the via quirks crap | 08:32 |
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| BenC | zul: it should revert from pulling from dapper | 09:38 |
| BenC | check and make sure it is | 09:38 |
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| BenC | zul: it should revert when I pull from dapper | 09:45 |
| BenC | zul: check to make sure | 09:45 |
| zul | ok | 09:45 |
| zul | its a bit too late for hrtimers isnt it? | 09:55 |
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| mjg59 | Lure: Sure | 10:03 |
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| Lure | lupine_85: ^^^ ;-) | 10:03 |
| lupine_85 | hehe | 10:04 |
| lupine_85 | It's about the rt2x00-legacy drivers | 10:04 |
| lupine_85 | according to modinfo, the code is a year old... I was wondering if there was a reason for that? | 10:04 |
| lupine_85 | e.g. Ralink RT2400 802.11b WLAN driver 1.2.2 - CVS 2005/07/11 | 10:04 |
| BenC | because they are legacy and not updated/worked on | 10:05 |
| lupine_85 | they're still worke don | 10:05 |
| lupine_85 | there have been two new betas since then :) | 10:05 |
| lupine_85 | http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ | 10:05 |
| BenC | well, file a bug and I'll see if I can update them :) | 10:05 |
| lupine_85 | ah, a bug... | 10:05 |
| lupine_85 | ...I mentioned it in a specification | 10:05 |
| BenC | against linux-source-2.6.17 | 10:05 |
| lupine_85 | ok, will do :) | 10:05 |
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| lupine_85 | ok, bug #60282 | 10:09 |
| lupine_85 | thanks for the pointer | 10:12 |
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| zul | ttyl | 10:58 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Just pushed you a patch for fixing some fan-related stuff | 11:49 |
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| Philip5 | anyone here know about how the livecd use the casper scripts or know someone who do? | 12:01 |
| Philip5 | or a ubuntu livecd channel? | 12:02 |
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