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[12:34] @now utc [12:34] Current time in Etc/UTC: September 13 2006, 10:34:51 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 9 hours 25 minutes [12:34] GMT is old! [12:37] i know it is - somebody referred to a gmt time === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jono [n=jono@88-107-5-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:30] hi all [02:34] hi jono [02:34] hey highvoltage [02:34] does this chan grab its event details from the fridge calendar? [02:35] depends on your definition of grab [02:35] the bot does [02:35] @schedule [02:35] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 13 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu | 14 Sep 07:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 Sep 12:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 12:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 20:00: Technical Board [02:35] ^^^ that comes from the fridge [02:35] right [02:35] so to add an event, I add it to the fridge [02:35] ooh, ok, seems that the topic is also set by ubotu [02:35] yes, that's the way to go [02:36] ok cool [02:36] if only the fridge guys were alive right now :P [02:36] :) [02:36] they are frozen like dr evil [02:36] just mail fridge-devel [02:44] jono: just email fridge-devel - they add it pretty quickly [02:44] well, I am a fridge editor, I just want someone else to confirm its OK to include :) [02:51] hehe [02:51] yeah === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 13 Sep 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 14 Sep 07:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 15:00 UTC: LoCo | 19 Sep 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 20 Sep 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team === cassidy [n=gdesmott@di-net.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8EAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A6572B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === thekorn [n=markus@a81-14-182-17.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.57.78] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lfittl [n=lfittl@193.170.41.114] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === CyberKing [n=Russell@203.190.1.177] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvolt1ge [n=jonathan@196.1.57.78] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1EF9.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:32] LoCo team meeting at 15:00? [04:32] it should be 14:00 [04:32] yeah [04:32] ping jono [04:32] jono, ! [04:33] CyberKing, pong [04:33] yeah its 2pm UTC [04:33] I updated the time, just needs refreshing [04:33] jono: oh ok :) [04:34] @topic [04:35] hmm, fridge still says 15:00 [04:35] (@topic forces a refresh) [04:35] odd [04:36] @reload Webcal === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:37] jono, the website says the correct time, the iCal feed not [04:37] Seveas, ahhh [04:37] DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20060918T150000Z [04:37] DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20060918T160000Z [04:39] can't we edit the topic manually? [04:39] we can [04:39] but ubugtu will hate you and restore it [04:39] ;) [04:40] oh === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Seveas] : moo === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 13 Sep 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 14 Sep 07:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 15:00 UTC: LoCo | 19 Sep 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 20 Sep 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team [04:40] lol [04:40] see =) [04:40] u programmed Ubugtu? [04:40] yes [04:40] cool [04:46] he programs thing to hate people [04:46] oh really? [04:47] jono, the ical feed is still bad, now says noon UTC [04:47] DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20060919T120000Z [04:47] DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20060919T140000Z [04:47] on the 19th [04:48] Seveas, it must be broken [04:48] I think so [04:48] any idea who maintains it ? [04:48] ah, wait, I looked at the wrong event [04:48] it's still wrong, though [04:49] :( [04:49] I though the fridge software maintained the feed? 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[10:01] bee [10:01] cbx33 ? [10:01] pips1_, what ? [10:01] I was trying to scare ogra ;) [10:01] boo? [10:02] :) [10:02] i'm to happy to get scared by anything :) [10:02] :) [10:02] ogra, nice ^_^ [10:02] oversized CD images ? [10:03] nope [10:03] last I heard was 698MB? :) [10:03] all fine [10:03] lots of bugs [10:03] but the install works [10:03] oh dear [10:03] excellent [10:03] I'm just installing now [10:03] usplash looks funny .. -35 didnt make it on the CD it seems [10:03] :( [10:04] ogra: will we need to do some trimming before final for size? [10:04] what about the other artwork? [10:04] it has the wrong res but the progress bar sits at the right place [10:04] I'm looking forward to see what it looks like [10:04] LaserJock, !!!! [10:05] what [10:05] hi dude ! [10:05] what did I do? [10:05] oh [10:05] well, the background is moved 1/3 down and 1/3 to the right [10:05] just saying an enthsiastic Hi! [10:05] oh [10:05] is RichEd here ? [10:05] ok, I think I was more scared then ogra [10:05] yep [10:05] and rodarvus ? [10:06] yeah, that was my worst day today === RichEd has droopy eyes, but mostly open ... sort of [10:06] ogra, did you get everything done [10:06] i have to get up in 5h for travelling and didnt even remotely belive i could get knot3 done === cbx33 pinches RichEd [10:06] ok [10:06] TECH UPDATE !!! [10:06] must be a biggie === highvoltage gives ogra pat on back [10:06] we have something that looks like knot 3 :) [10:06] its in capitols === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@adsl-68-250-145-129.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:07] Hello hello [10:07] there are plenty of bugs in it but with patiency it installs [10:07] i'll set up a known issues page and add it to the channel topic (as usual) [10:07] some things dont work at all, some are easily solveable ... [10:07] cool [10:08] nothing that makes me anxious for release [10:08] ;) [10:08] for some of the ltsp bugs i'll have the best ppl around me the next days :) [10:08] you done good ogra my man [10:08] sbalneav, i'd like to look into the lp_server and the mknbi issues ... and like to test the floppy stuff with you the next days === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:09] hesy rodarvus [10:09] *hey too [10:09] ogra: lets hope they "release" your laptop from the baggage hold for the hack-fest [10:09] as long as i get it back its all fine ... i'll do a complete /home backup tonight before i go to bed [10:09] ogra: I'm here sitting in LTSP headquarters right now :) [10:09] RichEd, don't even joke [10:09] sbalneav, me too in 24h ;) [10:10] I should apply for Edubuntu status one of these days :) [10:10] sbalneav, you do understand we have to talk about iscsi, right? :) [10:10] sbalneav, you already applied for edubuntu-member if i saw that right [10:10] I've volunteered with HedgeMage to help bring the LTSP section of the Handbook up to date. === highvoltage saw that too [10:10] sbalneav, nice ;) [10:11] he just didn't add his name to EdubuntuMeetingAgnda yet [10:11] tsk tsk [10:11] so its just a matter of making a wikipage and adding your contributions ... then the next EC meeting can approve you [10:11] hi there [10:11] Did I? I can't remember. [10:11] hi rodarvus [10:11] pygi: We'll have a chance over the next few days. Ogra will be here with me, we can be in irc and chat. [10:11] sbalneav, and be sure, you have my vote already ;) [10:11] If I could vote I would [10:11] ogra: did you fix scp deps so edubuntu-desktop doesn't install ltsp-server? :-) === cbx33 will done his cheerleading outfit === highvoltage 's too [10:12] sbalneav, i have to cncentrate on edgy ... lets rather see that pygi comes to mountain view ;) === LaserJock 's too === RichEd lost my connection at the end of the last meeting so I still need to confirm all of what I need to do as well re edubuntu-member. [10:12] Ah, good plan. [10:12] I will chat to highvoltage tomorrow. [10:12] RichEd, a wikipage that lists your contributions [10:12] thast about all [10:12] okay [10:12] what about the 3 liner? [10:13] ;) [10:13] ok, thats all from my tech side, i feel pretty exhausted but happy ... i didnt belive in knot 3 anymore as i said ... [10:13] \o/ for Knot 3 [10:14] ;) [10:14] if someone else likes to lead the rest of the meeting i could do the wikipage for known issues ... in fact i'll just add it to the testing page [10:14] ogra, well done dude [10:14] \/ [10:14] Hey, am I still supposed to get the test pattern on bootup? I keep seeing updates to usplash-artwork, but nothing ever changes? [10:14] as usual, a round of applause for Oliver and his untiring dedication. [10:14] eek, where's my head === ogra still hasnt had time to pack his bags [10:14] highvoltage: you were so excited you lost it === RichEd sees that highvoltage has his legs up in the air ;) [10:15] sbalneav, edubuntu-artwork -35 should fix that [10:15] \o/ [10:15] /\ [10:15] hehe [10:15] hiehie [10:15] nice man, man hehe === RichEd will take over from oliver so he can pack and wiki ... in that order [10:16] Whos taking the lead then? [10:16] heheh [10:16] :D\-< [10:16] :D|-< [10:16] :D/-< [10:16] just loading the agenda === sbalneav dances too === highvoltage does the robot [10:17] heheh [10:17] I'm sensing excitement in the air === LaserJock runs [10:17] oh, for those of you who don;t know ;) - SCP is now in main [10:17] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda#preview [10:17] documentation next? [10:17] cbx33: good job! [10:17] thanks ... wiki is slow for me tonight [10:18] cbx33: and is making me not update edubuntu-desktop ;/ [10:18] LaserJock: and dynamic menu's is in universe now, right? [10:18] -- documentation --- [10:18] sorry LaserJock [10:18] highvoltage: it's in NEW and Keybuck said he is working on NEW today [10:18] who's got some doc news ? [10:18] I'll be writing some docs for SCP and pessulus [10:19] LaserJock: great [10:19] for the handbook [10:19] cbx33: wow, congrats [10:19] ty [10:19] cbx33: I think you should help pips1_ get it on the website soon, so that we can point users there when the software is released [10:19] LaserJock, in theory, tomorrow is the ubuntu-archive day for keybuk [10:19] highvoltage, yeh that's cool [10:19] my account shuiod still be active [10:20] yep [10:20] rodarvus: he said he was doing it, *shrug* [10:20] LaserJock, yeah, thats cool :) [10:21] its just that Keybuk and Kamion decided to have a specific day they would give *more* attention to ubuntu-archive issues (thursday and friday, I think) [10:21] but they are free to do it on any other time, obviously :) [10:22] I had a documenation issue raised this past week ... In a discussion with an admin of an icafe using Edubuntu for his client workstations using LTSP. Would it make sense to produce a Handbook for that specific enviroment as well as a school one, or is the doc general enough for both ? [10:23] RichEd, we can adapt that use case for handbook perhaps, as one topic [10:23] highvoltage: comments ? you know both environments well ? [10:23] RichEd, personally I think the general should be sufficient [10:23] pygi, good idea [10:23] Put it this way, I was going to volunteer him to make the suggested changed for us :) [10:23] you could have a short section on some case studies [10:23] RichEd: honestly, I don't know. there would be a lot of overlap [10:24] *changes [10:24] Perhaps an appendix for specific use cases ? Just thinking aloud. [10:24] on the other side, running an internet cafe is very much different than running a lba t a school, so defferent cookbooks from that perspective sounds feasible [10:24] highvoltage, do you still have access to the website? [10:24] cbx33: yep [10:24] can you change my password [10:24] ;) [10:24] pm me? [10:25] cbx33: ok [10:25] Not an urgent issue, but it will come up later when we dig more into the Education Solution Space ... I'll file it away until then. [10:25] who is doing documentation from the present ppl? [10:25] RichEd: in Ubuntu/Edubuntu, those descisions are usually made by the people who are actually going to do the documentation [10:25] RichEd, is this a good place to come up with what I was talking to you about the other day.... [10:25] project tracking [10:26] Okay cbx33 : jump in ... [10:26] I was wondering guys [10:26] RichEd: so I think your options are (1) decide how it needs to be done and lead it, or (2) put it out there and let a group form that wil do the work, and decide how they want to do it [10:26] generally we seem to be pretty good in knowing what's happening where [10:26] highvoltage: I'll bring it up as an example later, and then move it to the next Handbook Meeting. [10:26] yeah, would be cool i jono was here [10:27] *if [10:27] but what are peoples opinions on introducing some kind of web based project management system, that is a little more finer grained than LP [10:27] (you'll see where it fits in when we get to solution views) [10:27] to allow creating of projects and tasks inside those projets, and assigning those takss to people [10:27] ok [10:27] I've been suing it at work for organising myself and my technician [10:28] cbx33: project management tools aren't very popular with volunteers, generally... [10:28] and it seems to have doubled my productivity [10:28] it was merely a suggestion [10:28] ;) [10:29] heh, if it worked I'd volunteer to use it ;-) [10:29] cbx33: perhaps it makes sense to try it out on a project you are involved in, where other involved people are agreed. If they see benefit, it will be accepted. If not htye will spit it out ? [10:29] *they [10:29] RichEd, sure [10:29] LaserJock, gisomount v2? [10:29] ;) [10:30] cbx33: Perhaps you and will and I can use it on the education advocacy exercise ? [10:30] RichEd, a great suggestion [10:30] cbx33, such a tool could work, but don't expect volunteers to maintain it up to date [10:30] I'll set it up soon [10:30] rodarvus, ok [10:30] in other words, someone would need to babysit this tool a lot [10:30] I don't really get what "it" is [10:30] cbx33, I don't think it's a bad idea... were you thinking about some sort of issue tracker only, or also calendaring...? [10:30] LaserJock, google for dotproject [10:30] Agreed then ... make it available, not compulsory. See if it gains acceptance ? [10:31] cbx33, unless you have any other idea, I suggest you to take a look at trac and dotproject [10:31] rodarvus, i suggested dotproject [10:31] dotproject might be too heavyweight, though [10:31] it rawks [10:31] you think? [10:31] for volunteer work, yes [10:31] Even if the tool gets too heavy, some of the principles may stick and be adopted into wiki processes. [10:31] but you can disable modules [10:32] RichEd, right, indeed [10:32] So it may be a useful exercise to evaluate on a small and voluntary scale. [10:32] but again, I think this is an excellent initiative [10:32] I'll setup a dotproject [10:32] cbx33, go for it, I believe it can be great for edubuntu [10:32] ;) [10:32] yeah, for an LP project I've been working on we've needed something like this [10:33] As a final coment, we may soon see more than just #edubuntu as a support channel for education, some differentiation may haqppen soon. [10:33] RichEd, ? [10:33] care to elaborate? [10:33] And as we split into channels, we may need more tracking to keep informed and stay on top of things. [10:33] #edubuntu-devel and #edubuntu ? [10:33] RichEd, yes true [10:34] I'll bring it up in solution spaces later, but along the lines of #ubuntu-education ... and not just #edubuntu (product) [10:34] yeah [10:34] RichEd, sounds sensible [10:35] I hate it when people come on #edubuntu looking for educational support, etc. [10:35] we'd keep devel in #edubuntu? [10:35] because I don't have really anything to offer [10:35] More user spaces, *not* trying to split the dev community here :) [10:35] LaserJock: you do? [10:35] ah, i see [10:35] yeah, sorry, I don't hate *them*, I hate that I can't help them [10:35] right [10:35] LaserJock, that's not true [10:35] you're a great help [10:36] Are we done in documentation, because then we can move into artwork, and then tackle the solution space stuff. [10:36] RichEd, shoot [10:36] LaserJock: what happened with k12ltsp, is that teachers started giving each other edu-support on the lists, that works quite cool [10:36] highvoltage: spot on ! [10:36] highvoltage: that's where #edubuntu-education would be cool [10:36] LaserJock: it's about a home for where each person is comfortable ... some users are as afraid of you as you are of them :) [10:37] Gotta go, I'll be on later tonight. [10:37] --- art work --- [10:37] see you tomorrow ogra [10:37] RichEd, I wonder if soon we should tackle a non-IRC based support solution too [10:37] all in the solutiopn space topic cbx33 :) [10:37] nice [10:37] cbx33: non-IRC and non-Mailing list, you mean? [10:38] we'll wait till alter pips1_ [10:38] yep [10:38] pips1_: heh, I see where you're going :) [10:38] hehe [10:38] --- art work --- going twice ? === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:38] well [10:38] hey, not so quick! [10:38] the new artowrk I think is in knot3 [10:39] the new usplash definitely is [10:39] though there is a bug fix for it which didn't get in [10:40] cbx33: is there an online preview for the impatient? :) [10:40] AliasVegas, would really like some feedback [10:41] I'm too busy with other things to install knot3 right now... :/ === RichEd will be back in 2 mins ... [10:41] cbx33: ? [10:41] cbx33, it works ... there is a bug in usplash that sets it to 640x480 (fro which we ship no theme) [10:43] I will put it all up online as soon as I get a chance [10:43] cbx33, didn't you applied for ubuntu-devel yet? [10:43] I kind of expected to see you on yesterdays meeting [10:44] rodarvus, I will do next time [10:44] yeah, he missed [10:44] I didn 't have time to prepare [10:44] edubuntu-artwork 0.1.0-35 hit my edgy-changes mailbox :-) [10:44] right, don't miss it next time ;) [10:44] sorry rodarvus [10:44] we can always use more hands, development wise! [10:44] whohoo! [10:45] cbx33, no need to be sorry too ;) [10:45] rodarvus, I'm there trust me....as long as I have some fans [10:45] otherwise I'll fall flat on my development face ;) [10:45] cbx33, make sure you read DeveloperResources on wiki thoroughly [10:45] I will [10:46] hopefully I'll make it too [10:46] LaserJock, for core-dev? [10:46] ahn [10:46] I thought you wanted to apply for core-dev [10:46] no, to support cbx33 [10:46] oh, I'll get there [10:46] not ready yet [10:47] hopefully both of you will get to core-dev in a few months :) [10:47] rodarvus, you think? [10:47] wow cool [10:47] rodarvus, we'll get him there ;) i did a sponsored main upload today :) [10:47] its a lot more responsability involved, but really important for us to have more developers involved in core dev === LaserJock needs to find more Main stuff to do [10:47] cbx33, yeah, why not [10:48] LaserJock, maybe we should try to get gisomount in main [10:48] we're getting off topic [10:48] ;) [10:48] we haven't much edubuntu specific packaging for main currently (and it is basically handled by ogra) [10:48] but that will increase (a whole lot) in the next few months [10:48] because? [10:48] OLPC [10:48] and on which CD should that fit ? [10:48] ahhh [10:48] ah, ok, i suppose that small [10:48] :) [10:48] ogra: not for edubuntu cd ;) [10:49] don't worry! [10:49] ogra, didn;t you hear, we're revising the CD standard size [10:49] will we get an edubuntu-olpc CD ? [10:49] just for edubuntu [10:49] more like a disk image for OLPC and others interested [10:49] with preinstalled stuff [10:50] I thought Mark was springing for getting every school in the world a DVD rom === LaserJock starts the rumor ;-) [10:50] this overlaps some with what RichEd was mentioning on thinking about educational content, not specific to edubuntu [10:51] LaserJock: We can give them DVDs but can they read them ? [10:51] RichEd, I think he meant drive [10:51] mhm [10:51] hence the ;-) [10:52] We still have probably a 80:20 CD:DVD capability in workstations across the target sector. [10:52] I preferred the track that started in the last few weeks about a base CD and add-on packs. [10:52] me too [10:52] THE target sector? are you talking about schools worldwide? [10:52] me too [10:52] although with ubuntu you just need a dvd drive in one pc in an organisation :) [10:53] RichEd, but as we also said [10:53]