[12:00] <panegi> i am
[12:01] <aceracer> Subhuman: You are spot on! it's aprt of gnome-system-tools
[12:02] <CyaNox> Hello all, I was moving from dapper to edgy by altering my source.list and dist-upgrading ... But now I'm stuck. After I login It shows the load bar (or how its called) and plays the nice new sound. The only problem then is it does not load any of the panels or backgrounds.
[12:02] <pluma> RE: my question earlier about the clock being too fast -- Apparently disabling the dynamic overclocking in BIOS fixed it. It wasn't a FSB hardware problem.
[12:02] <jmhodges> hey, anyone know why my HP Deskjet 3820 might be cutting off the bottom line or two of the pdfs I print? The paper size is correct in Administration>Printing, Evince and xpdf but still cuts off
[12:02] <Subhuman> aceracer, i thought so.
[12:03] <Subhuman> CyaNox, better asking in #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <pluma> This goes to Subhuman in particular, btw.
[12:03] <Subhuman> thats for edgy problems
[12:03] <CyaNox> Subhuman: Ok thanks
[12:03] <georgy> jmhodges :wich driver you use
[12:03] <Subhuman> pluma, ahh, i thought there might be a bios fix for it.
[12:03] <JohnFlux> Hey all!
[12:03] <jmhodges> georgy, oh the hpijs one.. HPLIP 0.9.7
[12:04] <JohnFlux> what can I do to check the SMART status of my hard disks?
[12:04] <georgy> jmhodges : ok
[12:04] <azcazandco> can anyone give me a hand with setting up samba file sharing?  I heard of something called nautilis-share but can't find it in repositories
[12:04] <wifiworks> sudo update-flashplugin
[12:04] <wifiworks> reports
[12:04] <jmhodges> hmm.. have there been problems with the hpijs drivers?
[12:04] <wifiworks> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[12:04] <jman__> jmhodges: maybe check localhost:631/printers and click modify printer
[12:04] <Subhuman> JohnFlux, look in synaptic and search for "s.m.a.r.t"
[12:04] <wifiworks> any ideas anyone?
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> azcazandco: they are cool...
[12:04] <jmhodges> jman__, hmm.. will look
[12:04] <Subhuman> there is a few packages with smart monitoring applications and smartd, the daemon you will need
[12:04] <georgy> jmhodges : no ,it work fine maybe try to use acroread
[12:05] <azcazandco> very cool!
[12:05] <pluma> Subhuman: np. You got me looking in the right direction. Apparently clock inconsistencies are common with 64-bit Linux users. And it's almost always related to the dynamic overclocking features.
[12:05] <wifiworks> can't install flash thru apt-get basicaly
[12:05] <azcazandco> I now have 2 ubuntu boxes and 1 win2000pro box all squeezed into the smallest desk
[12:05] <azcazandco> but I need to figure out how to share files between them
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > azcazandco
[12:06] <wifiworks> anyone got flash on there pc?
[12:06] <jmhodges> thats odd.. the CUPS web thing doesn't have USB as a possible device..
[12:06] <jmhodges> weird
[12:06] <wifiworks> !flash
[12:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <eyequeue> i need someone rather fluent in grub, i can't install it here and need some sort of assistance please
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: Whats the prob
[12:07] <georgy> eyequeue : what's the problem
[12:07] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, i can' get it to install, it won't see my hd in grub, and grub-install gives this
[12:08] <azcazandco> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[12:08] <ebogart> i could use a bit of advice from someone patient regarding some strange soundcard issues on a 2 card system.
[12:08] <pluma> New problem: ever since installing a couple of server related apps (part of the attempt to have my box's mailbox act as a POP3 server) my DNS IPs vanish on reboot. That is, the file gets reset by some app.
[12:08] <lontra> does anyone know if sharpmusique is still be developed?
[12:08] <pluma> Any idea which program might cause that?
[12:08] <burzum> how can i "pin" gaim at startup and make it visible on all desktops?
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: Does live run?
[12:09] <woodgrain> say, I got some really weird behavior in nautilus ... "backup file"s were just disappearing before my eyes (?)
[12:09] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, georgy, (still waiting for the error, very slow server)
[12:10] <simmerz> why do i get strange characters on the console?
[12:10] <woodgrain> if I clicked a 'backup file' ... it apparently disappeared .... actual changes from backup file to 'regular text document' (?)
[12:10] <pluma> simmerz: sounds like a character encoding problem?
[12:10] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, georgy, (still, very)
[12:11] <ebogart> New Problem:  Cannot get the sound settings to "hold" onto the correct default sound card.  After choosing it and closing the window, it reverts to the original setting.  Any help?
[12:11] <simmerz> pluma: what do i need to configure to solve it?
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: Does live run?
[12:11] <luisgd> alright, now it's done configuring
[12:11] <luisgd> finally
[12:11] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, no removable media drives on it
[12:11] <georgy> luis : and now make
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: How are you trying to install it?
[12:12] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, this was a dist-upgrade, over 2 days, from pre-release sarge to dapper
[12:12] <pluma> simmerz: No idea. Just taking a wild guess here =/
[12:12] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, it is all done, except grub and then a kernel
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: I dont think you can go from sarge to dapper
[12:12] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, georgy, finally!  The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[12:12] <simmerz> pluma: ok
[12:12] <pluma> Simmerz: you can change your encoding in the console window's menu bar's "Terminal" menu tho.
[12:13] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, it is all done, much manual effort, but it is done
[12:13] <simmerz> pluma: this is on a server without X
[12:13] <flasher> I need to find out my typing speed. Is there a program that can help determine my typing speed (w.p.m)?
[12:13] <wifiworks> tell me if it works?
[12:13] <pluma> simmerz: In that case, no idea.
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: It isnt done until it works  :)
[12:13] <ebogart> flasher:  Typershark on yahoo games is a good start :)
[12:13] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, it does, unless there is a power faliure :(
[12:14] <ZeroOn1> is there a way to make it so you can drag windows onto the next virtual desktop?
[12:14] <eyequeue> georgy, ideas?
[12:14] <pluma> simmerz: also, what do you mean by "strange characters"? Artefacts? Broken special characters?
[12:14] <luisgd> okay, I said make and it gave me yet another error message: fatal error: opening dependency file .deps/config.Tpo: Permission denied
[12:14] <luisgd> compilation terminated.
[12:14] <flasher> ebogart: is that going to work on my slow (p3 500) computer? Is there a quick/small program that is in repo or somewhere for download?
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: Have you seen anyone upgrade from Pre-release sarge to dapper successfully
[12:14] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, i've done so, it's only a grub guru i need now
[12:14] <georgy> eyequeue : i get a look on grub .org
[12:14] <flasher> oh, i'm using dvorak layout, btw, if it makes any difference to testing out typing speed
[12:15] <infidel> i ned help setting up my network printer, i did everything right the first time and it worked before. i have it connect to my laptop and when i reconnected to the net it doesn't see it anymore. but if i ping it is there
[12:15] <georgy> luis :sudo make
[12:15] <jmhodges> yeah, nothings fixing it
[12:15] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, no, suggest back up home and to it the easy way
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: How do you know you have done it if it does not yet work?
[12:15] <eyequeue> ompaul, there is no removable media, and the upgrade is already done, other than grub
[12:15] <ebogart> flasher: typershark is actually just a game on yahoo that runs in shockwave or something like it.  it would give you an answer though.
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: That would have been my suggestion as well
[12:15] <flasher> ok
[12:15] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, ALL works except grub
[12:16] <ebogart> flasher: i used to play it on my parents p2 400 back in the day
[12:16] <flasher> thanks, ebogart. will do it now.
[12:16] <flasher> hope it's free
[12:16] <ebogart> it is.  good luck, and happy wpm's
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: Can you get into Ubuntu?  Dapper?
[12:16] <woodgrain> My backup files are disappearing in Nautilus ... what's up?
[12:16] <flasher> ebogart: thanks. need to add my wpm to some resumes
[12:16] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, i am in it now, via ssh
[12:17] <luisgd> okay, this time it got much further, but it gave me a ton of errors, all of which started with jpeg.cpp:
[12:17] <flasher> ebogart: on http://games.yahoo.com/games/do, it says Note: Typer Shark is not compatible with Unix or Macintosh computers.
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Can you post your boot/grub/menu.list
[12:17] <woodgrain> Can someone say why my backup files are disappearing in Nautilus?
[12:17] <flasher> maybe they're just talking about downloadable version
[12:17] <jmhodges> anyone else have an idea?
[12:17] <ebogart> flasher:  ah!  i didn't realize that.  will look real quick.
[12:17] <georgy> luis : what's the error message
[12:17] <jmhodges> about how to get my printer to print within the damn margins?
[12:17] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, i wrote one for it, but it came without one, it formerly ran lilo
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: To the pastebin of course
[12:17] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, i'll psate it if you like
[12:18] <luisgd> jpeg.cpp:18:21: error: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory
[12:18] <luisgd> jpeg.cpp:37: error: field 'm_pub' has incomplete type
[12:18] <luisgd> jpeg.cpp:41: error: 'JOCTET' does not name a type
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: No thanks.. I dont know that I would have any usefull suggestions
[12:18] <luisgd> those are just three of them
[12:18] <luisgd> there are many many more
[12:18] <georgy> luis : maybe try to install libjpeg-devel or something similar
[12:19] <ebogart> flasher: try this--http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/
[12:19] <xored> when iam booting, ahci trys to probe every possible sata port, but i only have one sata-drive installed. this lets the boot take 2 minutes, how can i turn this off ? he always waits arround 15 sec "sata link down" 4 times
[12:19] <ZeroOn1> is there a way to drag a window to the next virtual desktop?
[12:19] <georgy> eyequeue: find nothing
[12:19] <simmerz> pluma: as in when I run aptitude it looks broken, and the dialog screens look odd too
[12:20] <ebogart> zero: do you need to drag, or can you just right click on it in the system bar and move it to another one?
[12:20] <ZeroOn1> is dragging possible?
[12:20] <blatt> estou aqui
[12:20] <blatt> opa, estou
[12:21] <blatt> rsrsrs
[12:21] <ebogart> zero: not sure.  i'm a newbie, but thought i'd see if i could help :)
[12:21] <ZeroOn1> im an ultra n00b =P
[12:21] <blatt> ol pessoal
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[12:21] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:22] <blatt> by
[12:22] <blatt> sorry: bye, bye
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:23] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, georgy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23265
[12:23] <eyequeue> slow to paste in chunks
[12:24] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, georgy: /boot/grub/menu.lst and df -h output
[12:24] <DexterF> hi
[12:24] <DexterF> how do I install w32 codecs in ubuntu?
[12:24] <eyequeue> !codecs > DexterF
[12:24] <ompaul> !codecs > DexterF
[12:24] <ompaul> meh
[12:24] <DexterF> thanks :)
[12:25] <burzum> how can i "pin" gaim at startup and make it visible on all desktops?
[12:25] <georgy> dextef : need the plf repo
[12:25] <flasher> ebogart: the game worked. but it stalled at times, which probably made me have a low wpm of 74wpm
[12:25] <flasher> i'll now try gtypist
[12:25] <ebogart> flasher: looks like you're not in bad shape though :)
[12:25] <andreiutz> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian
[12:25] <andreiutz> ?
[12:25] <flasher> http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/ <--- can i get this on repository?
[12:26] <flasher> ebogart: i haven't memorized the symbols though (on numbers)
[12:26] <ebogart> flasher: are they different on dvorak?
[12:26] <flasher> nope
[12:26] <SillyZ> evening... quick question... Installing Ubuntu on a laptop with no CDRom drive, whats the best method ?
[12:26] <flasher> on dvorak symbols are the same
[12:26] <ebogart> flasher: make flashcards
[12:26] <riddlebox> how come I have to enter my default gateway everytime I reboot to be able to get on the internet, it never stays?
[12:27] <flasher> sorry, the symbols on the numbers are the same, but the punctuation marks (, . ? etc), which are on letter keys, have moved
[12:28] <flasher> gtypist is in repo. yahoo
[12:28] <ebogart> excellent!  sounds like you're making better progress than me today
[12:28] <woodgrain> how do I set my default browser to Firefox?
[12:28] <SillyZ> is it possible to mount the iso via a windows network during installation? or is PXE booting the only way to do it ?
[12:29] <eyequeue> SillyZ, if you have debian or ubuntu on it already ...
[12:29] <flasher> ebogart: cool. gytpist comes with dvorak drills@
[12:29] <flasher> !
[12:29] <flasher> thanks
[12:29] <SillyZ> eyequeue, unfortunatly I dont, only thing on the drive is winhosed
[12:29] <eyequeue> SillyZ, what is pxe?
[12:29] <eyequeue> !pxe
[12:29] <ubotu> pxe: free PX daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-3 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 144 kB
[12:29] <SillyZ> I have another box on the network that has Ubuntu installed upon it
[12:29] <eyequeue> a "px" deamon means nothing to me
[12:29] <georgy> eyequeue : boot over lan
[12:30] <linnuxxy> im getting "sudo: timestamp too far in the future" error coz i had changed the clock... how to get over it?
[12:30] <eyequeue> SillyZ, i was going to suggest a dist-upgrade, but nm
[12:30] <eyequeue> georgy, thanks.  no luck with that pastebin?
[12:31] <georgy> eyequeue : no, sorry
[12:31] <eyequeue> georgy, thanks anyway
[12:31] <Andrew67> linnuxxy: try sudo -k ? (or was it -K)
[12:31] <danielw_Ubuntu> why does the dhcp client not default to send in the hostname?
[12:31] <SillyZ> other distros have provided like a smb installation method, or being able to mount the iso from a fat32 drive, etc, just wonderd what my options were with ubuntu
[12:31] <danielw_Ubuntu> and there is no gui config for it
[12:31] <georgy> daniel : you need a bind server to do that
[12:32] <linnuxxy> Andrew67: -K ... and it z not working... same output
[12:32] <eyequeue> lupine_85, you know everything about dist-upgrades lately :)  want a challenge?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23266
[12:32] <eyequeue> danielw_Ubuntu, most dhcpds will not honour it
[12:32] <pianoboy3333> How does iCalendar in evolution work?
[12:33] <danielw_Ubuntu> eyequeue: I am integrating into a Windows network, you know about their dhcp crao
[12:33] <danielw_Ubuntu> crap
[12:33] <eyequeue> danielw_Ubuntu, i know nothing of ms, sorry
[12:33] <thebigdeadwaltz> hey, ubuntu just fell on it's face
[12:33] <thebigdeadwaltz> no network, keyboard
[12:33] <danielw_Ubuntu> well if I dont enable it, the windows dns server does not add the host name automatically
[12:33] <Daynah> pianoboy: with not as much functionality as ical does in sunbird/moz whatever they call it now. What do you wanna do?
[12:33] <lupine_85> eyequeue: stage 1 is corrupted
[12:34] <lupine_85> so apt-get install --reinstall grub
[12:34] <georgy> luisgd : still there ?
[12:34] <danielw_Ubuntu> speaking of moz calendar, why doesn't it display the google calendar entries
[12:34] <eyequeue> lupine_85, done already, same results
[12:35] <lupine_85> not sure then - was it up to edgy?
[12:35] <Milktea> How do I view quicktime files
[12:35] <Daynah> uuuuggmmm I'm having problems with ubuntu freezing and giving me errors while booting... I've been informed that one of my three harddrives is about to go. How do I find out which one? Especially, how do I find out which one when my computer keeps freezing? And then, with comp still freezing, how do I move stuff off of one of my working hard drives to get it ready to be the new ubuntu?
[12:35] <Milktea> integrated into browsers?
[12:35] <wd3> how do i uninstall failed partial gentoo install on my hda to install ubuntu .... i should have never left... :( on reboot ubuntu won't be recognize.
[12:36] <Daynah> wd3: you could reformat it....
[12:36] <lupine_85> wd3: just install over the top
[12:36] <lupine_85> the installer will wipe the current crud for you
[12:36] <Daynah> 6 or half a dozen :)
[12:37] <Milktea> How do I view quicktime files integrated into web browsers? ):
[12:37] <eyequeue> lupine_85, no, it's a newly-dapper box, this is the 2-day dist-upgrade from early sarge
[12:37] <jpjacobs> Milktea, mozilla-mplayer should tkae care of that
[12:37] <lupine_85> dist-upgrade from sarge to dapper?
[12:37] <Milktea> thanks
[12:37] <lupine_85> can't see that as a good idea
[12:37] <Milktea> Who's using sarge
[12:37] <Milktea> o.0
[12:37] <eyequeue> Milktea, my server used to be
[12:37] <pinky_> Hi, I've got a MacBook here and I'm wondering if there's an application for Ubuntu that is similar to "Photo Booth" in Mac OS X.
[12:38] <Daynah> what the heck is sarge?
[12:38] <lupine_85> debian
[12:38] <Daynah> oh okay cool
[12:38] <eyequeue> Milktea, it's now dapper, but no luck with grub: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23266
[12:39] <simmerz> lupine_85: dist-upgrade from debian to ubuntu is definitely *not* a good idea. the two, while based on dpkg, are semantically very different distros
[12:39] <exs> I have a problem. I have 512mb ram, and ubuntu goes into the page file A LOT.. I use firefox + a bittorrent client and gaim, with xchat running most of the time.. how can I speed it up?
[12:39] <eyequeue> simmerz, it worked here
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> pinky_: Dont know photobooth, but gimp and digikam are good tools
[12:39] <wd3> Daynah, when i put the ubuntu cd on reboot the system stalls at cdrom , then goes to floppy, then gentoo loads up to give me a root, can i format from there?
[12:39] <lupine_85> indeed :)
[12:39] <eyequeue> simmerz, it is solely grub that is failing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23266
[12:39] <Daynah> You know what I like to do? I constantly keep back ups and I'm like... the queen of reformatting. Something goes wrong, I reformat. If you don't want to burn a backup cause it's too much, just burn your documents and see if one of your friends has an external hard drive yuo can borrow for all your stolen Desperate Housewives and such
[12:40] <pinky_> Jack_Sparrow: I know of them.  Photo Booth captures images from the MacBook's built-in video camera and can distort it with different effects.
[12:40] <simmerz> eyequeue: have you reinstalled grub into your mbr?
[12:40] <eyequeue> simmerz, suggest something, i'll try it
[12:40] <pinky_> I wanted a package that can do similar, and perhaps one with a behavior similar to Mac OS X's "Dashboard"
[12:40] <pinky_> I'm wondering if they even exist...
[12:41] <eyequeue> simmerz, this was formerly lilo btw, grub has not yet "stuck"
[12:41] <simmerz> eyequeue: grub-install?
[12:41] <georgy> eyequeue: b-install /dev/hdagru
[12:41] <Daynah> I have no idea about gentoo, but I know that A) ubuntu reformats before it installs B) I'm sure you can burn a disc to do JUST a format
[12:41] <eyequeue> simmerz, tried it, the pastebin should show the error
[12:41] <simmerz> georgy: interesting command!
[12:41] <georgy> eyequeue: grub-install
[12:41] <Daynah> but I'm guessting gentoo isn't so stupid as to try to install without  reformatting. Any yay or nah on that anyone?
[12:41] <eyequeue> georgy, the pastebin shows the error from that
[12:42] <eyequeue> # grub-install /dev/hda
[12:42] <georgy> simmerz: foot some lettersrg
[12:42] <eyequeue> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[12:42] <simmerz> eyequeue: apt-get install --reinstall grub
[12:42] <eyequeue> simmerz, done, same errors
[12:42] <simmerz> eyequeue, have you tried reconfiguring grub with dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:42] <simmerz> dpkg-reconfigure -plow grub
[12:42] <Milktea> does wine work with itunes
[12:42] <Milktea> :/
[12:43] <eyequeue> simmerz, i dind't think it was a debconf'd app
[12:43] <linuchsan> eyequeue:just get in what is the problem?
[12:43] <eyequeue> simmerz, trying it now, error will be in a few minutes likely, slow machine
[12:43] <simmerz> eyequeue: not sure. I only run ubuntu on a server. use to use debian on my desktop, but now on gentoo
[12:43] <DexterF> guys.. seriously: w32codecs is a hassle to newbie. I'm sitting here with a friend, linux newbie. he tried to figure _on his own_ how to get them. we're at 45 min now
[12:43] <Milktea> wow mplayer is nicer than quicktime
[12:43] <Milktea> for ms
[12:43] <Daynah> eh, no one answered about gentoo. I don't use gentoo, too hardcore for me. But generally you can install over and it'll be okay
[12:44] <eyequeue> linuchsan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23266
[12:44] <lupine_85> portage++ :)
[12:44] <georgy> simmerz : -plow ?
[12:44] <Daynah> If it doesn't work then... HEY! You didn't lose any data!
[12:44] <Milktea> what's wrong with your w32codecs?
[12:44] <Milktea> I remember osmeone told me
[12:44] <TylerDurdener> hey, im configuring my kernel atm and i need to select my proccessor, I know i have a celeron 2.5, but I don't know if its a PIII type or P4, is there a way to find out?
[12:44] <simmerz> georgy: -p = priority
[12:44] <Milktea> they spent 2 weeks compiling their kernel for gentoo
[12:44] <Milktea> on a p2
[12:44] <eyequeue> simmerz, this server is very very slow, heh
[12:44] <Daynah> ....
[12:44] <georgy> simmers : hanx
[12:44] <Daynah> Yeah... I don't like pretty much EVERY story I've heard about gentoo
[12:45] <Daynah> like I hear all these awful installation stories and I never hear about rant about how awesome it is once they get in it.
[12:45] <Milktea> gentoo is great don't get me wrong
[12:45] <eyequeue> simmerz, dpkg-reconfigure grub returned null
[12:45] <simmerz> Daynah: its not for everyone. I happen to like it a lot more than the other distros I've used. for a desktop distro at any rate
[12:45] <pantaloon> this might be off topic, but anyone know why i can't run quake III fullscreen anymore? i checked .xsessions-errors but not sure if i'm doing it right
[12:45] <Milktea> the installation is bitchy, that's it
[12:45] <simmerz> Milktea: what, the LiveCD installation?
[12:45] <Milktea> don't know
[12:45] <Milktea> but they were running an ancient p2
[12:45] <lix> TylerDurdener: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:45] <Milktea> and compiling their kernel
[12:45] <Milktea> was a bad idea
[12:45] <Milktea> lol
[12:46] <eyequeue> Milktea, lol, this is an ancient p1
[12:46] <simmerz> Milktea: it does all of that for you. have a look at gentoo again. its changed a lot in the last 2 years
[12:46] <Daynah> Yeah def not for me :)
[12:46] <Daynah> uuuuggmmm I'm having problems with ubuntu freezing and giving me errors while booting... I've been informed that one of my three harddrives is about to go. How do I find out which one? Especially, how do I find out which one when my computer keeps freezing? And then, with comp still freezing, how do I move stuff off of one of my working hard drives to get it ready to be the new ubuntu?
[12:46] <linuchsan> eyequeue:have you used the knoppix cd to install grub again
[12:46] <TylerDurdener> lix, it doesn't state wether it's a P4 type or P3 though
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: Just get i386 and you'll be fine
[12:46] <simmerz> Daynah: you need to install smart tools and run some tests
[12:46] <eyequeue> linuchsan, there is no removable media on that machine, just scp or dist-upgrade
[12:47] <Daynah> simmerz: I'v ebeen told to do smart tools, but can I do that with Ubuntu freezin?
[12:47] <TylerDurdener> Jack_sparrow, won't i get better optimizations if I select the right one though?
[12:47] <simmerz> Daynah: have you checked the cables too? SATA cables are good at coming loose
[12:47] <eyequeue> linuchsan, i'm open to suggestions though
[12:47] <Milktea> Did you guys see the new ipods?
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: In grub I can select 386 or 686 and there is only a minor speed difference
[12:47] <Daynah> also, my computer was... smelling? about the week before? could that be something? -_-' I had cleaned the dust out I swear like a month ago! and cleaned it again when it smelled...
[12:47] <simmerz> eyequeue: I'm assuming the stage1 file is still from debian?
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: Start with 386 and after the install add the 686
[12:48] <Daynah> simmers: oh! I'll check that I have a sata. Will I only get the errors though if the problem is with the hard drive that ubuntu is on? 'cause sata is not the ubuntu hard drive (it's just data with no os)
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Daynah: If it is hot enough to smell it.. that aint good.
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Mixing ide and sata can also be a source of problems
[12:49] <Daynah> Yeah, it smelled kinda burnin' -_-' Second time actually, first time was just two years ago and was the power supply and was verydusty so now I'm anal about dust. But this started right after I changed dorms.
[12:49] <eyequeue> simmerz, no installed and --reinstalled from dapper.  debian was lilo, that's gone now
[12:49] <simmerz> eyequeue: does the stage1 file exist?
[12:50] <Daynah> Jack: mixing as in having both or mixing as in... mixing up the cords? you know, after I type things I don't know why I press enter but I still do. it's funny to read
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Daynah: did you ever pull the cpu .. clean the heatsink,... and re-apply thermal grease
[12:50] <eyequeue> simmerz, yes, and is 512 bytes
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Daynah: as in having both in a system
[12:50] <ryctor> Hey
[12:50] <Daynah> Jack: uuuhhh... no. not -re- apply. And yes I have both
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Daynah: What is the rating of your ps?
[12:50] <eyequeue> simmerz, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Sep 12 22:08 stage1
[12:50] <pfein> any tips on fixing lockups with a Radeon Mobility M6?  I *don't* care about 3D, I just want to get some work done.
[12:51] <simmerz> eyequeue: ok. what if you apt-get remove --purge grub?
[12:51] <Daynah> Jack: I dunno off the top of my head, but I can look real quick and I'll pm you?
[12:51] <eyequeue> simmerz, then it goes away, i did that a few hours back
[12:51] <eyequeue> simmerz, well, dpkg --purge
[12:52] <simmerz> eyequeue: and then install it again. does that not work?
[12:52] <eyequeue> simmerz, that is my current state, with the same errors
[12:52] <simmerz> eyequeue: what if you go into the grub console?
[12:52] <ryctor> I have a wusb54g and a w11c pcmci wifi cards, which one will be faster?, the pcmci, even if its 11mbps b because of the pcmci/pci bus or the usb 54g 54mbps, even though usb bus is slower?
[12:52] <eyequeue> simmerz, it acts as if there is no hd0
[12:52] <linuchsan> eyequeue:i don't know if people already said it to you, but try grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda
[12:53] <simmerz> eyequeue: sounds like you can't apt-get dist-upgrade from debian to ubuntu then ;-)
[12:53] <weswh-> the other day ssh was working fine, then i did an /etc/inti.d/ssh stop, and shut it down. i tried to do an ssh start to turn it back on, and it says OpenBSD Secure Shell [fail]  (no other output). Any idea what might be wrong, or how to get more info?
[12:54] <Gio2k> quick question guys, how do u take a screenshot of a window, but including the menu ?
[12:54] <eyequeue> simmerz, it worked fine!  the ONLY app that isn't working is grub!
[12:54] <jerrcs> hi. I am trying to use the ipv6 tunnel broker "sixxs", but when I use /etc/init.d/networking start, it says: ioctl: No buffer space available
[12:55] <eyequeue> linuchsan, /boot?  not /boot/grub?
[12:55] <simmerz> eyequeue: bit of a major app?
[12:55] <eyequeue> linuchsan, also, /boot is not the same partition as /
[12:55] <linuchsan> eyequeue:/boot
[12:55] <Daynah> Jack: did you get that pm?
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> No...
[12:56] <Daynah> Jack: mwahah! no wonder no one gets back to me
[12:56] <simmerz> eyequeue: you're looking for the stage1 file, which when grub looks at / it is actually looking at /boot.
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Daynah: Put your hardware into this site to tell you what you should be running..  http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Daynah: You need to reg your nick
[12:57] <eyequeue> simmerz, # grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda
[12:57] <eyequeue> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[12:57] <simmerz> eyequeue: and it looks like your grub setup will actually be wrong, if /boot is /dev/hda2
[12:57] <eyequeue> simmerz, /boot is hda3 i thought?  df at the end of that pastebin
[12:57] <eyequeue> simmerz, is that correct then?
[12:57] <simmerz> eyequeue: from your df -h, /dev/hda2             124M  3.3M  115M   3% /boot
[12:58] <eyequeue> simmerz, ah 3% not hda3, lol
[12:58] <ZeroOn1> how can i add mp3 support to my ubuntu?
[12:58] <simmerz> eyequeue: that makes root (hd0,1)
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > ZeroOn1
[12:59] <simmerz> eyequeue: btw, were you still running woody per chance?
[12:59] <eyequeue> simmerz, er, isn;'t root 0,0 , and boot 0,1 ?
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Pre-release of Sarge...  :(
[01:00] <eyequeue> simmerz, no , it was a pre-release sarge, and used lilo
[01:00] <simmerz> eyequeue: root as far as grub is concerned
[01:00] <simmerz> eyequeue: think about where the vmlinuz image is. that is your root.
[01:00] <eyequeue> grub> setup (hd0)
[01:00] <eyequeue> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[01:01] <simmerz> then you give the kernel a /dev/hda3 root afterwards
[01:01] <eyequeue> that is from a while back btw, i'm still waiting for the command you suggested
[01:01] <eyequeue> simmerz, so change all root to (hd0,1), correct?
[01:01] <simmerz> eyequeue: yep
[01:02] <simmerz> run grub, to take you into the console
[01:02] <eyequeue> simmerz, any other changes?  as you figured out, there's very long delays in between, so i want to get it right soonish if i can
[01:02] <eyequeue> The file /boot/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[01:03] <eyequeue> vim menu.lst :)
[01:03] <daynah> Er Jack: it, recommended 265 and I have 380, that's okay right?
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yep..
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> I would pull the cpu , clean the heatsink with alcohol and re-apply thermal grease
[01:03] <justin_> How do I change my mouse from PS2, to COM1/2 ----
[01:03] <simmerz> grub --no-config-file?
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> It is a good start for any PC that has heating issues
[01:04] <schnucker> hi
[01:04] <daynah> Jack: okay, thanks. :) And that's for the heating problem not the freezing?
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> daynah: One and the same sometimes
[01:05] <eyequeue> simmerz, six changes root to (hd0,1), correct? and one groot to the same?
[01:05] <daynah> great :)
[01:05] <daynah> thank you!
[01:05] <daynah> I'll try that first
[01:05] <georgy> justin_ : in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:05] <simmerz> eyequeue: yep
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> the next time it freezes go right to cmos and see what it shows the temp as...  also see if it is set to give a warning beep at a certain temp
[01:05] <justin_> georgy, ttys1 etc etc ?
[01:05] <bruenig> !xconfig
[01:05] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:05] <daynah> cmos?
[01:05] <eyequeue> simmerz, # grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda    running now
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> daynah: As far as the drive you have that is failing ... I would run live ...
[01:06] <reitzell> anyone get mythtv working? (I'm getting an error "You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile Myth.")
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> daynah: I might even unplug all drives and run live.. see if it still freezes
[01:06] <setog3> Hi all, my fai use layer 7 to filter ip packet, and I want to download http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent , but I cant, how can I download this ?
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> daynah: cmos/bios/setup
[01:06] <bruenig> reitzell, looks like you need some gstreamer stuff
[01:06] <georgy> justin_ : don't know
[01:06] <linuchsan> eyequeue:and update-grub
[01:06] <bruenig> !info gstreamer0.8-lame
[01:06] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-lame: LAME encoder plugin for GStreamer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.8.12-1 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 116 kB
[01:07] <daynah> whats live?
[01:07] <justin_> georgy: Well that doesn't help much :P -- I suppose I will have to do a little experimenting
[01:07] <eyequeue> linuchsan, nod, still awaiting the first to be errorfree :)
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> daynah: OS that runs from CD and in ram only..
[01:07] <georgy> justin_ : easy to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg on console
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> daynah: How did you install Ubuntu?
[01:07] <daynah> OH the live cd!
[01:07] <daynah> duh
[01:07] <dave_> quick question, im setting up a second computer that i want to share a cable internet connection with, should I have plent of eth cards so should I just use my main PC as a router and share it or would I be much better off buying a router to do it?
[01:08] <daynah> -_-'
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:08] <daynah> so if it stalls there what would it mean?
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> dave_: buy a router
[01:08] <lupine_85> dave: you "can" do it with the linux box, but it's easier to use a router
[01:08] <lupine_85> for 20, it's not a big deal
[01:08] <dave_> ok
[01:08] <dave_> yeah i know
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> daynah: your cpu is overheating
[01:08] <simmerz> eyequeue: can you not get into the grub console?
[01:08] <justin_> georgy: I'd rather get my hands dirty in the config file --- I just forget what com1 was --- I believe it was ttys0
[01:08] <dave_> does it hog alot of the resources or something?
[01:08] <daynah> okay cool
[01:08] <daynah> dads phoning me
[01:08] <daynah> bye!
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:08] <eyequeue> simmerz, not while grub-install is running
[01:09] <Shish> dave_: It's just complicated
[01:09] <georgy> justin_ : ttyS0
[01:09] <simmerz> eyequeue: no, indeed. but if it fails (which it sometimes does) you may want to try the grub console to install the grub image into the mbr
[01:09] <TeePOG> hi guys, where are the "include" files in ubuntu? I need them to install VMWare, and I already installed the kernel-source package
[01:09] <eyequeue> simmerz, damn! # grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda
[01:09] <eyequeue> The file /boot/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> essentials
[01:09] <eyequeue> simmerz, can you walk me through to console commands?
[01:09] <lupine_85> TeePOG: install linux-headers
[01:09] <simmerz> eyequeue: grub
[01:09] <reitzell> thanks... I'm looking for that
[01:10] <lupine_85> e.g. linux-header-`uname -r`
[01:10] <simmerz> as root
[01:10] <TeePOG> ok lupine_85, thanks
[01:10] <wd3> is it possible to install a full xubuntu from a ubuntu live cd at root or terminal?
[01:10] <Shish> I have modem -> linux box -> switch -> desktops; the linux box is doing things like bandwidth shaping and network monitoring
[01:10] <lupine_85> then it'll just pick them up automagically, AFAIK
[01:10] <simmerz> eyequeue: root (hd0,1)
[01:10] <eyequeue> simmerz, Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[01:10] <luisgd> well, all this time was spent compiling
[01:10] <lupine_85> (the latest version anyway)
[01:10] <luisgd> and at the end it turned out these error messages
[01:10] <simmerz> it should say then that is an ext2fs partition
[01:10] <dallingham> I'm having some problems with vpnc (cisco virtual private network client). The option to route addresses is giving errors, even though I am following the manpage example. Any ideas?
[01:10] <eyequeue> simmerz, that 0.1 seems to (probably) be the cause of all the headaches, right?  all over a 3% lol
[01:11] <linuchsan> eyequeue:what does a --recheck say?
[01:11] <simmerz> eyequeue: :P
[01:11] <luisgd> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpng"
[01:11] <eyequeue> linuchsan, recheck of what?
[01:11] <luisgd> "make[2] : *** [libgnashbackend.la]  Error 1"
[01:11] <Xappe> dave_: if you have a couple of ethernet cards and are willing to have both computers on at the same time I would go for it. It's not hard to set up a NAT...shorewall or weven firestarter should get you up and runing quite fast
[01:11] <georgy> luisgd : wich erorrs and when
[01:11] <simmerz> eyequeue: you got through the BIOS checks?
[01:11] <lupine_85> install the libpng -dev library?
[01:11] <wd3> anybody? ..... ^^^^^
[01:11] <lupine_85> (that was a luisgd)
[01:11] <eyequeue> simmerz, no, still waiting
[01:11] <wd3> is it possible to install a full xubuntu from a ubuntu live cd at root or terminal?
[01:11] <luisgd> "make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/luis/Desktop/gnash-0.7.1/backend'"
[01:12] <simmerz> eyequeue: it does take a while, even on my athlon 64
[01:12] <eyequeue> linuchsan, it's a slow machine, still waiting to get into grub console, but i can recheck something after
[01:12] <luisgd> "make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1"
[01:12] <linuchsan> eyequeue:grub-install --recheck
[01:12] <luisgd> "make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/luis/Desktop/gnash-0.7.1'"
[01:13] <luisgd> "make: *** [all]  Error 2"
[01:13] <exs> How do I run a test to show what's using up most of my resources?.. My computers running slow.
[01:13] <eyequeue> simmerz, in :)  root (hd0,1)
[01:13] <luisgd> and it posted them after having been compiling for a good while
[01:13] <simmerz> eyequeue: ext2?
[01:13] <eyequeue> simmerz, :(    grub> root (hd0,1)
[01:13] <eyequeue> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[01:13] <eyequeue> simmerz, i think it was ext2
[01:13] <simmerz> eyequeue: then you've got the wrong stuff completely in your /etc/fstab
[01:13] <georgy> luisgd : install libpng-devel ?
[01:13] <eyequeue> simmerz, let me look at that
[01:13] <linuchsan> eyequeue:and --no-floppy will speed-up thinks
[01:14] <simmerz> eyequeue: sata? pata? scsi?
[01:15] <eyequeue> simmerz, two pertinent lines from fstab  /dev/hda3       /             ext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0      1
[01:15] <eyequeue> /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 defaults 0 2
[01:15] <luisgd> okay, I'll give this another try
[01:15] <simmerz> eyequeue: grub deals with things on a "how are they connected physically" basis
[01:15] <simmerz> eyequeue: are the drives parallel ata then?
[01:15] <eyequeue> simmerz, i need to vim menu.lst and change something to (hd0,2) then, or no, "root" doesn;t mean /
[01:16] <eyequeue> simmerz, no idea, what was old hardware?
[01:16] <itz> hello all
[01:16] <simmerz> pata
[01:16] <eyequeue> simmerz, i don't know such terms
[01:16] <simmerz> hd(0,0) corresponds to drive 1, partition 1
[01:16] <Pretor1ab> hello all
[01:16] <eyequeue> simmerz, ther is nothing on hda1 though
[01:16] <Pretor1ab> just installed ubuntu x86_64
[01:17] <simmerz> eyequeue: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[01:17] <eyequeue> simmerz, / is hda3, /boot is hda2
[01:17] <daynah> Jack: parents are coming to visit me at college. Dad said he's take it home and greese it for me. w00t.
[01:17] <daynah> I am one spoiled geek
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[01:17] <atroWork> I'm having some issues with firestarter with both an external and internal NIC. Anybody have some firestarter knowledge to pick from?
[01:17] <eyequeue> simmerz, dmesg from that machine? wouldn't that take forever?
[01:17] <Pretor1ab> when trying to install zimbra it checks for prerequisites like curl fetchmail and libidn amongst others (which i have installed) but it reports errors saying the prereqs are missing
[01:17] <Stark> Hello
[01:17] <simmerz> eyequeue: where is /dev/hda1 then?
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> atroWork: I found guarddog easier to understand
[01:18] <Pretor1ab> any ideas?
[01:18] <eyequeue> simmerz, not mounted
[01:18] <atroWork> Pretor1ab, you'll have to manually edit the deb files (which are packaged for Debian Sarge) and change the requirements to ubuntu specific packages. There is a tutorial for it somewhere.
[01:18] <eyequeue> simmerz, i'm still in grub console
[01:18] <exs> I've installed beagle.. where do I find it, to launch it?
[01:18] <simmerz> eyequeue: exit grub console, and fdisk /dev/hda
[01:18] <eyequeue> simmerz, grub> root (hd0,1)
[01:18] <eyequeue> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[01:19] <simmerz> I want to know what the partition map is
[01:19] <atroWork> Jack_Sparrow, firestarter is easy to understand, it's working on the external NIC just fine, but I can't figure out how to open up the internal one.
[01:19] <simmerz> p = print partition map
[01:19] <Stark> I'm having trouble starting Ubuntu.  I just installed Dapper Drake, and when I boot up the system, it says the xserver crashes.  The error message I recieve is "(EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"  Does anybody here know what I could try to get it to work?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> atroWork: sorry , I dont use it but most people here do..
[01:19] <eyequeue> simmerz, /dev/hda1             521       25228    12452832    5  Extended
[01:19] <atroWork> exs, it's a command line tool, use it from the terminal. If you like you can add another tool to your panel to allow gui searching. Can't remember what it's called but I can find it for you
[01:19] <blinkzxc> I just installed dapper.. I am having problems with my PC freezing if I leave it idle for 60 mins.  The screensaver/power management doesn't seem to be setup right.  Any suggestions?
[01:19] <simmerz> eyequeue: pastebin the whole lot
[01:19] <eyequeue> simmerz, fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:19] <exs> atroWork:  that would be great
[01:20] <eyequeue> simmerz, it's huge, it will take a while
[01:20] <TylerDurdener> im building a kernel in terminal, can i ctrl+c and start over or will it screw something up? i gotta add a parameter
[01:20] <atroWork> blinkzxc, have you disabled power management to see if that's really the cause? It might be overheating or some other hardware malfunction
[01:20] <simmerz> eyequeue: thats why you go into fdisk, type p, and copy and paste that
[01:20] <georgy> Stark: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:21] <blinkzxc> atroWork: I've had this pc for years.... first time to use Linux on it though.
[01:21] <Stark> georgy: I tried that, as far as I can tell, all the settings are right.  It doesn't work; if it helps, I have an nVidia Geforce 2
[01:21] <simmerz> eyequeue: actually, why is it huge?
[01:21] <simmerz> its a partition table
[01:21] <georgy> Stark : don't use framebuffer
[01:21] <TylerDurdener> anyone? is it safe to stop a kernel that is building in terminal?
[01:21] <blinkzxc> atroWork: I will disable all power managerment and see what happens.
[01:22] <atroWork> blinkzxc, I'd still disable whatever you think is causing the problem, just to see that it really is causing the problem.
[01:22] <blackline> Im trying to install realplayer via apt but it complains about broken packages. Something about xlibs?! Anyone?
[01:22] <blackline> im using ubuntu 6.06 by the way
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !realplayer
[01:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:22] <DexterF> !flash
[01:22] <atroWork> exs, deskbar applet
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> blackline: what repo has realplayer?
[01:22] <gusto5> hello, id like to know how to rearrange my grub configuration boot order
[01:23] <eyequeue> simmerz, okay, done, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23267
[01:23] <exs> atroWork:  cool, I'll check it out
[01:23] <oizo> Where can i get some newbie help on installing an .tar.gz file? I installed some essential-build thing but it still wont compile the script!?? HELP!
[01:23] <eyequeue> gusto5, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:23] <gusto5> thank you, eyequeue
[01:23] <georgy> gust05 : /eboot/grub/menu.lst
[01:23] <gusto5> lol, btw eyequeue fancy nickname
[01:23] <exs> atroWork:  what does "CVS" mean?
[01:23] <georgy> gust05 : /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:23] <gusto5> thanks georgy
[01:24] <eyequeue> gusto5, rearrange stanzas as you like, then sudo update-grub
[01:24] <DexterF> !swf
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <simmerz> eyequeue: so /dev/hda3 is your boot partition, why does df -h say it is /dev/hda2?
[01:24] <gusto5> ok
[01:24] <JoaoJoao> hello
[01:24] <Knorrie> hi
[01:24] <eyequeue> simmerz, good question, no idea, what do you think?
[01:24] <Xenguy> oizo: what app is it, if you can say
[01:24] <nateprentice> Hi guys.  I'm a new convert from Windows, and I'm no developer.  What would you recommend to a complete Linux virgin?
[01:24] <oizo> BitchX
[01:25] <simmerz> eyequeue: I think your system went awol
[01:25] <atroWork> exs, CVS is a software versioning system. It's what developers use to get the absolute latest (and often unstable) code to work on. Stick with the stable version.
[01:25] <eyequeue> simmerz, and recommend?
[01:25] <exs> atroWork:  ok thanks
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> nateprentice: what have you tried so far?
[01:25] <blackline> Jack_Sparrow - Multiverse, from what I can see
[01:25] <Stark> I'm having trouble starting Ubuntu.  I just installed Dapper Drake, and when I boot up the system, it says the xserver crashes.  The error message I recieve is "(EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"  Does anybody here know what I could try to get it to work?  I've already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg."  If it helps, I have an NVidia Geforce 2
[01:25] <georgy> Stark : better ?
[01:25] <simmerz> eyequeue: do you know what all the partitions are? did you initially install the machine?
[01:25] <atroWork> exs, it should install from synaptic, let me know if it's not in there and I'll find which repository I got it on
[01:25] <JoaoJoao> I'm trying to install Ubuntu in my machine, which has a JMicron IDE chipset, so I can't install it from the CD-ROM. Is the network install the only option I have?
[01:25] <Stark> georgy: No, sorry, I didn't see what you said.
[01:25] <nateprentice> Good question.  I'm just starting out with what is in the Examples folder.
[01:26] <eyequeue> simmerz, can i mv /boot /boob and then mkdir /boot and then cp -a /boob/ /boot/
[01:26] <georgy> Stark : dont enable framebuffer
[01:26] <eyequeue> simmerz, it hsa been years since those days
[01:26] <simmerz> eyequeue: why?
[01:26] <Xenguy> oizo: BX is packaged in Ubuntu so you don't have to compile from tar.gz...
[01:26] <atroWork> Stark, somebody has already answered your question, reconfigure xserver. The forums have a lot of detailed information on how to fix X Server problems, try that resource as well.
[01:26] <Stark> georgy: Thanks, I'll try that
[01:26] <Xenguy> oizo: but frankly, 'irssi' is a better choice IMHO
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> blackline: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list and post to the pastebin please..  also a backup is suggested   sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[01:26] <georgy> Stark : try vesa driver
[01:26] <eyequeue> simmerz, to get boot off the mystery partition, whatever it is, and put it on / which we can find
[01:26] <JoaoJoao> I would choose instlux but it doesn't have any ubuntu network install for 64-bit
[01:27] <lupine_85> don't you use the nvidia legacy drivers for Geforce 2?
[01:27] <simmerz> eyequeue: cp -a /boot /boob, umount /boot, rm -r /boot, mv /boob /boot
[01:27] <luisgd> it seems to have worked
[01:28] <georgy> luisgd : great !
[01:28] <oizo> Xenguy: Is it like mIRC? (If you know that app)
[01:28] <luisgd> I'm going to run firefox to see if it did work in fact
[01:28] <atroWork> firestarter and two NICs (external and internal). Anybody have experience getting this to work?
[01:28] <Xenguy> oizo: no, both BX and irssi are 'command-line' type IRC apps - you might check out 'xchat' for a GUI type app
[01:28] <JoaoJoao> it seems that some people (like) with intel core 2 duo boxes have a really really hard time installing Ubuntu
[01:28] <eyequeue> simmerz, :( cp: overwrite `/boot/boot/grub/device.map'?
[01:29] <lupine_85> atroWork: as a router?
[01:29] <simmerz> eyequeue: wtf? cp -a /boot /boob
[01:29] <eyequeue> simmerz, umount: /boot: device is busy
[01:29] <atroWork> lupine_85, no, it serves http, mysql, ftp, etc, but no routing.
[01:29] <eyequeue> simmerz, kernel is there
[01:29] <lupine_85> ok. so what are you trying to do?
[01:29] <simmerz> eyequeue: kernel is in memory
[01:30] <blackline> Jack_Sparrow - http://pastebin.ca/168415
[01:30] <sami> im not here to cuse troble
[01:30] <oizo> Xenguy: I guess i'll just have to try some diffrent apps then until i find something i like! THX
[01:30] <eyequeue> simmerz, well, it's busy, twice
[01:30] <Xenguy> oizo: yw
[01:30] <simmerz> lsof /boot
[01:30] <atroWork> lupine_85, it seems like I can only set up a filter policy on one, and the other is blocked entirely. I'd prefer to set up policies on both, but failing that set up policies on external and have internal open entirely (as opposed to closed entirely like it is now)
[01:30] <thedash> would there be any reason why a hard drive [formatted in ext3]  would cause ubuntu to fail when booting?
[01:30] <luisgd> well, I got no error messages in terminal, but it's not running in firefox either
[01:31] <eyequeue> simmerz, nm, umounted
[01:31] <sami> troubletroubletroubletroubletroubletroubletroubletroubletrouble
[01:31] <Dysko> I have just installed Dapper Drake for the first time, and I don't seem to be able to use Make.  Is says that there is no such command.  Any help?
[01:31] <simmerz> eyequeue: were you in /boot by any chance?
[01:31] <luisgd> I did "make" then "make check" then "make install"
[01:31] <khorlick> can someone here help me with wine...i get an error when trying to use synaptic package manager to download it
[01:31] <georgy> luisgd : have you made sudo make install ?
[01:31] <sami> TROUBLE
[01:31] <luisgd> and they all seemed to clear just fine
[01:31] <lupine_85> atroWork: it's definitely possibly using iptables
[01:31] <luisgd> yes
[01:31] <lupine_85> no idea about firestarter though
[01:32] <eyequeue> simmerz, 6 screen sessions, some were, yes
[01:32] <eyequeue> simmerz, all done now
[01:32] <georgy> luisgd : put the plugin in /usr/lib/firefox/plugin ?
[01:32] <ZeroOn1> how exactly do you install mp3 support on ubuntu?
[01:32] <simmerz> eyequeue: lol. ok. remove /boot from fstab
[01:32] <atroWork> lupine_85, I'd be fine with that, but I've just now (after 15 months) convinced my work place to set up a linux box in an all MS shop, so it needs to be GUI or they'll whine.
[01:32] <eyequeue> simmerz, er, edit menu.lst, right?  all is now what?
[01:32] <atroWork> !multimedia codecs
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multimedia codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> blackline: Several of your sources were rem'd out..
[01:33] <georgy> Dyko : Apt-get install build-essentials
[01:33] <eyequeue> simmerz, done
[01:33] <simmerz> eyequeue: all is now /boot/vmlinuz and root will be hd0,2
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> DO you know how to save the changes to your sources list?
[01:33] <LookTJ> hi
[01:33] <LookTJ> i am on irssi through terminal
[01:33] <Stark> georgy: I used the vesa drivers, that worked like a charm, thanks.  I don't suppose you'd know where I could find a way to get my D-Link DWL-G132 working?
[01:33] <ZeroOn1> anyone have info on how to install mp3 support
[01:33] <snoop> anyone know how can I change the screen resolution in ubuntu?
[01:33] <Xenguy> !mp3
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> blackline: gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <Dysko> It says it couldn't find build-essentials
[01:34] <eyequeue> simmerz, grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda    or console first?
[01:34] <Gio2k> ZeroOn1, get automatix
[01:34] <georgy> Stark : now you cango to ubuntu.com to install the nvidia legacy driver
[01:34] <Xenguy> hehe
[01:34] <simmerz> eyequeue: I'd ignore grub-install. just use grub --no-floppy
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Gio2k:  noooooooooooooooooooo
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Gio2k: Please dont recommend that script
[01:34] <Gio2k> easiest way to get mp3
[01:34] <Xenguy> ZeroOn1: I've heard 'easyubuntu' is a better idea
[01:34] <Gio2k> why not
[01:34] <Stark> georgy:  Thanks!  I just need to get my WiFi-connection working first, is all.
[01:34] <TylerDurdener> Can someone PLEASE tell me if it's safe to ctrl+c out of kernel building in terminal?
[01:35] <JoaoJoao> is there a way to install Ubuntu from a 1GB USB stick?
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Gio2k: Please dont recommend that script or easyubuntu for that matter
[01:35] <georgy> Stark : for you D-link try it with ndiswrapper
[01:35] <eyequeue> simmerz,     GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[01:35] <Gio2k> i tried easyubuntu first
[01:35] <Gio2k> automatix is better
[01:35] <blackline> JackSparrow - So, which repos should i uncomment?
[01:35] <Xenguy> TylerDurdener: it should be fine since you are not yet using that future kernel
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Gio2k: They are NOT safe.
[01:35] <trpr> Gio2k: it breaks stuff, and on an official support channel like this, its better to recommend the sanctioned solutions
[01:35] <eyequeue> Gio2k, both are deprecated
[01:35] <simmerz> eyequeue: root (hd0,2)
[01:35] <Xenguy> Gio2k: wrong, from what I've heard
[01:35] <atroWork> Jack_Sparrow, why aren't they safe?
[01:35] <Gio2k> yep, why?
[01:35] <grasshopper> Hi Guys!
[01:35] <Dysko> I ran that apt-get function, and it said it could find package build-essentials
[01:35] <eyequeue> simmerz, grub> root (hd0,2)
[01:35] <eyequeue> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> blackline: reload that page I think you will see my changes
[01:36] <Dysko> is it called anything else
[01:36] <exs> I'd like to remove the animation it plays when I minimize a window. How do I do this?
[01:36] <Xenguy> Jack_Sparrow: are you saying easybuntu is a bad idea(tm) now as well?
[01:36] <Stark> georgy: Thanks, I'll try that
[01:36] <eyequeue> !easyubuntu
[01:36] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:36] <eyequeue> !automatix
[01:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> atroWork: We see people in here several times a day that have trashed thier systems with those scripts
[01:36] <khorlick> can someone here help me with wine...i get an error when trying to use synaptic package manager to download it
[01:36] <eyequeue> both are "use at your own risk"
[01:36] <LookTJ> How do I run irssi?
[01:36] <Gio2k> so is linux for that matter
[01:36] <LookTJ> in a gui
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> atroWork: If you go to #Automatix.. there is no one there to help when things go wrong.. and they DO go wrong
[01:37] <eyequeue> simmerz, ideas?
[01:37] <atroWork> hrm... I've never seen anybody with problems because of it. I've never had trouble with it anyway...
[01:37] <Xenguy> Jack_Sparrow: I had heard that easyubuntu was a better shot than automatix, but <shrug>
[01:37] <eyequeue> LookTJ, type irssi
[01:37] <simmerz> eyequeue: reading more
[01:37] <TylerDurdener> Xenguy, :( now it won't let me rebuild it, it says that ./debian/changelog file exists, and has a different value. I am confused by this discrepancy, and am halting.
[01:37] <simmerz> eyequeue: looking now
[01:37] <khorlick> can someone here help me with wine...i get an error when trying to use synaptic package manager to download it
[01:37] <LookTJ> I did
[01:37] <trpr> atroWork: aren't you lucky. don't recommend it to others here though
[01:37] <blackline> Jack_Sparrow - reload whatpage?
[01:37] <gusto5> hello eyequeue, i have no idea how to modify the grub boot list, but i want to move the windows to either the top, or set as default
[01:37] <atroWork> Automatix definitely does more than EasyUbuntu, but when it started out it did things very poorly and often broke stuff. It's methods are not so brute anymore though.
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> blackline: http://pastebin.ca/168419
[01:37] <LookTJ> buth that still in the terminal eyequece
[01:37] <snoop> anyone know how can I change the screen resolution in ubuntu?
[01:38] <dannyr> please help with clamAV install - when I run "apt-get install clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam clamtk libclamav1" - I don't get any conf files or daemons installed - can anyone please advise
[01:38] <khorlick> can someone here help me with wine...i get an error when trying to use synaptic package manager to download it
[01:38] <eyequeue> gusto5, edit that file, change default= line, save it
[01:38] <bruenig> khorlick, what is the error?
[01:38] <atroWork> gusto5, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst <-- run that and cut/paste to change the order
[01:38] <Xenguy> TylerDurdener: you'd have to start from scratch I imagine if you interupt a kernel compile...
[01:38] <grasshopper> wondered if there was a reason why my screensaver doesn't work
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> atroWork: It is still NOT recommended by this channel
[01:38] <Xenguy> TylerDurdener: I used to do them all the time, and then I got lazy and started using default kernels after a couple of unsuccessful compiles ;-)
[01:38] <atroWork> gusto5, sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.bak.lst <--- back it up first
[01:38] <khorlick> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[01:38] <eyequeue> gusto5, then sudo update-grub
[01:38] <simmerz> eyequeue: did you say no access to cd?
[01:38] <eyequeue> simmerz, right
[01:38] <LookTJ> brb
[01:38] <JoaoJoao> why doesn't ubuntu work with all-generic-ide with jmicron?
[01:38] <bruenig> khorlick, open up a terminal and do sudo apt-get install wine, tell me what happens
[01:38] <luisgd> no, moving the plugin into the plugins folder in firefox didn't work
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > khorlick
[01:39] <luisgd> thanks, though
[01:39] <simmerz> eyequeue: geometry (hd0)
[01:39] <grasshopper> Hi Guys
[01:39] <atroWork> Jack_Sparrow, I don't recommend it in here, I do so in PM with a disclaimer. I just like to hear reasons against it because most of them refer to the very early days of the program, not how things work currently.
[01:39] <luisgd> you guys have been very good help
[01:39] <excitatory> does anyone know where to get aotuv oggenc debs for dapper?  i've been trying to compile from source, but with no luck..
[01:39] <grasshopper>  wondered if there was a reason why my screensaver doesn't work?
[01:39] <grasshopper>  wondered if there was a reason why my screensaver doesn't work?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> atroWork: I tested it this week.. before a backup... only marginally better...
[01:40] <Dysko> can anyone help me with getting a make command on my system.  HELP!!!!!
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > grasshopper
[01:40] <bruenig> !build-essential
[01:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:40] <bruenig> !info build-essential
[01:40] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[01:40] <grasshopper> Jack_Sparrow, what?
[01:40] <eyequeue> simmerz, grub> geometry (hd0)
[01:40] <eyequeue> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> grasshopper: Please dont repeat...
[01:40] <Dysko> thank you!
[01:40] <simmerz> eyequeue: try with hd1,2,3,4
[01:41] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, that was likely a mistake
[01:41] <khorlick> Reading package lists... Done
[01:41] <khorlick> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:41] <khorlick> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:41] <khorlick> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:41] <khorlick> is only available from another source
[01:41] <khorlick> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[01:41] <bruenig> !wine
[01:41] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:41] <bruenig> !info wine
[01:41] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[01:41] <Xenguy> !paste > khorlick
[01:41] <bruenig> khorlick, have you enabled the universe repository?
[01:41] <eternalswd> is anyone using firefox 1.5.0.5 that can verify a site bug for me?
[01:41] <bluefox83> that wine info reply is wrong >.>
[01:41] <eyequeue> simmerz, none exist
[01:41] <JoaoJoao> well I guess I'll have to wait for Ubuntu Edgy :(
[01:42] <bluefox83> should be binary API layer
[01:42] <khorlick> not sure how, sorry...new to linux
[01:42] <simmerz> eyequeue: are you at the machine? or is it remote?
[01:42] <gbutler69> Do the apt repositories work for Edgy? I keep getting, "Unable to contact server....blah blah blah" in "synaptic"?
[01:42] <eyequeue> simmerz, how can my ide controller be gone, since i'm on it, heh
[01:42] <eyequeue> simmerz, remote
[01:42] <bruenig> khorlick no problem follow the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[01:42] <lupine_85> gbutler69: they work fine here
[01:42] <lupine_85> only main restricted universe and multiverse exist right now
[01:43] <simmerz> eyequeue: still reading threads
[01:43] <eyequeue> simmerz, no prob
[01:43] <JoaoJoao> how good is 64-bit support in Linux (specially Ubuntu?)
[01:43] <thedash> would there be any reason why a hard drive [formatted in ext3]  would cause ubuntu to fail when booting?
[01:43] <hikenboot> hello all--question---anyone know if anyone has created a good multimedia install script for ubuntu (specifically mozilla based pluggins and streaming addins centered around internet browsing?
[01:43] <eyequeue> simmerz, you'll be a min?  i need to perform a brief medical procedure, brb
[01:44] <lupine_85> JoaoJoao: pretty good
[01:44] <MagicFab> hi
[01:44] <bruenig> hikenboot, easyubuntu and automatix
[01:44] <MagicFab> how can I assign a hotkey to launch an application ?
[01:44] <lupine_85> various obscure 3rd party binaries don't work without a lot of messing around, but there's not much that can be done about that
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> hikenboot: People here are happy to help.. please avoid those buggy scripts
[01:44] <h3h_timo> hey, can you install and use compiz without installing xgl???
[01:44] <lupine_85> h3h_timo: I think so
[01:44] <bruenig> !compiz
[01:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:44] <lupine_85> would be really slow though
[01:45] <Killerkiw1> is there a way to get a "network" icon in the places submenu in nautilus and gtk choser
[01:45] <h3h_timo> lupine_85, i just tried suse, and decided i didnt like it, and now im back to ubuntu, i just dont know if i want to install xgl or not
[01:45] <hikenboot> Jack_ I was hoping to use a script that i can add to my disk which does dhcpd tftp thinstation booting for a "safe browser system" that can be used in parallel to terminal server
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: Those are a really BAD idea
[01:45] <lupine_85> h3h_timo: I just installed it today
[01:46] <lupine_85> it's pretty, but also pretty pointless
[01:46] <R0cK3T> hi all
[01:46] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, some people care not to spend the large amount of time to set them up. I used automatix and no problem. Not that I had to because i was a noob or what not but because I don't want to do each thing seperately.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[01:46] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:46] <lmosher> is there any way to convert .mp3 to .wma?
[01:46] <gbutler69> Does anyone know the rationale for choosing Aiglx over XGL for Edgy? I'm not disagreeing, just wondered if there is a write-up anywhere that explains the pros-cons and how the decision was reached. (BTW: I use Intel 945 Chipset, so AIGLX should work great for me....)
[01:46] <R0cK3T> just wondering if its possible to take the grub bootloader off the ubuntu cd and put it on a seperate cd?
[01:46] <atroWork> bruenig, he doesn't need a reason not to like it, he just doesn't like it.
[01:47] <znull> !ati
[01:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:47] <atroWork> bruenig, pm him about it if you want to ask why ;)
[01:47] <h3h_timo> lupine_85, i think im just gonna not worry about it, because its still a little buggy, and my system looks fine right now
[01:47] <lmosher> gbutler69, afaik aiglx is considered "better" because it's physically an extension of xorg instead of an alternative xorg...
[01:47] <eternalswd> can anyone using firefox 1.5.0.5 with the flash plugin installed go to http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/scoreboard and see if firefox freezes for you?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: You should also tell them they need to do a backup first and they will find it hard to get help when things go wrong
[01:47] <simmerz> eyequeue: without local access to the machine and ability to boot off a livecd, I'm stumped
[01:48] <brlancer> how do I get gdm to read a .xinitrc/xsession file? I need a way to run commands on login
[01:48] <lupine_85> seems to work fine
[01:48] <bruenig> I don't necessarily want to argue the merits of it just to say that convenience is in itself justification for doing some things. A quick install of codecs and plugins and then an uninstall poses no huge risk especially when one has a fresh install to work with
[01:48] <MagicFab> how can I assign a hotkey to launch an application ?
[01:48] <MagicFab> (sorry, had lost focus and it scrolled up)
[01:48] <atroWork> MagicFab, system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:48] <gbutler69> It's just that I read up pretty extensively (I'm speaking in relative terms here) and it seems that both approaches offer some advantages. I'm just curious about what swayed things towards AIGLX specifically.
[01:48] <eyequeue> simmerz, back
[01:49] <eyequeue> simmerz, what did access do?
[01:49] <bruenig> MagicFab, those won't launch applications. The best way I have found to do it is with a program called xbindkeys
[01:49] <MagicFab> atroWork, those are for predefined actions. I want to add "execute XXXX when YYYY key pressed"
[01:49] <georgy> eternal
[01:49] <lmosher> is there any way to convert .mp3 to .wma?
[01:49] <bruenig> !info xbindkeys
[01:49] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 152 kB
[01:49] <atroWork> MagicFab, if the function you want isn't in there, open gconf-editor, navigate to apps -> metacity -> global_keybindings... set up the keyboard combination there, then go to keybinding_commands (or something like that) in the same folder and set the command you want it to run
[01:49] <eyequeue> simmerz, or only with a cd?
[01:49] <gbutler69> When I first read about the two technologies, It *seemed* like XGL was more the correct long-term answer, but, the more I read on it, the more it seems like AIGLX is the right way.
[01:49] <georgy> eternalswd : work fine
[01:49] <MagicFab> tx, will try!
[01:49] <simmerz> eyequeue: it means you can check the bios and make sure the drives are enabled. also means you can boot into a livecd and investigate properly without the drives being mounted
[01:50] <simmerz> eyequeue: what does ls -l /dev/hd* give?
[01:50] <eyequeue> simmerz, hda is enabled, i'm on it :)
[01:50] <IcemanV9> when print in evolution, the font is way TOO big. cannot find the option to change the size. nobody knew the answer in ubuntuforums, either. is IT a bug? should i report it to evolution team?
[01:50] <georgy> lmosher : soundconverter
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Time for dinner, goodnight...
[01:50] <simmerz> eyequeue: you got something working?
[01:50] <cynical> gbutler69: they are both temporary solutions until xegl comes out
[01:51] <eyequeue> simmerz, um, i'm ssh'd into the machine
[01:51] <simmerz> eyequeue: lspci?
[01:51] <gbutler69> "Cynical", do you have a link for that?
[01:51] <cynical> gbutler69: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xegl#Xegl
[01:51] <eyequeue> simmerz, and ls shows hda1 through hdd20
[01:52] <simmerz> eyequeue: you're using devfs then ;-)
[01:52] <eyequeue> simmerz, no, i think that was standard in debian
[01:52] <simmerz> eyequeue: ok I have one here for you: grep "hda" /var/log/dmesg
[01:52] <eyequeue> simmerz, lspci has  4 lines, which would youi like?
[01:53] <simmerz> your IDE controller
[01:53] <h3h_timo> okay, another quick question... how do you install cursor themes??
[01:53] <eternalswd> georgy, thanks, I guess the issue is internal somehow.  I know it's the flash plugin causing firefox to freeze due to espn's autoupdate feature, but I can't for the life of me figure out why it's only freezing for me.  Right now I have a stylish script blocking that element on all the espn scoreboard pages, but it's quite annoying
[01:53] <simmerz> and change hda in the grep line to hda[a-z] 
[01:53] <simmerz> oops, hd[a-z] 
[01:53] <eyequeue> simmerz, most recent 2: hda: 25429824 sectors (13020 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=1582/255/63
[01:53] <eyequeue>  hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 > hda2 hda3
[01:54] <gbutler69> That seems to indicate that "Xegl" is the future of "XGL"; however, it doesn't say anything about AIGLX. I'm not sure that XAIGLX is considered *temporary* until Xegl arrives. It seems like XGL is temporary until Xegl, but, AIGLX is something entirely separate, No?
[01:54] <eyequeue> simmerz, 0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I]  (rev 02)
[01:54] <bak> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help with a dual head display questions.  I have both monitors working but they are not setup to drag stuff across them on purpose but the problem is I can not open anything on Screen #1.  When i do export DISPLAY=0.1; I get cannot open display no matter what i try and run...What do I have to do to launch something on the second screen?
[01:54] <simmerz> eyequeue: thats your ISA bridge, not your IDE controller
[01:54] <IcemanV9> !paste > eyequeue
[01:54] <eyequeue> simmerz, 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I]  (rev 02)
[01:54] <Paras> channel.. need some help.. i don't have a cdrom drive. is it possible to install ubuntu?
[01:54] <simmerz> eyequeue: use a pastebin
[01:55] <blackline> Jack_Sparrow - I opened up all repos, still same error with xlibs when trying to install realplayer
[01:55] <lupine_85> a pastebin for one line?
[01:55] <eyequeue> simmerz, that is it, you don't want vga or ethernet
[01:55] <lupine_85> that's a bit extreme...
[01:55] <atroWork> Paras, ubuntu is installable over the network, and even from a bootable USB device, I believe
[01:55] <eyequeue> lupine_85, agreed
[01:55] <simmerz> eyequeue: I need you to pastebin these: grep "hd[a-z] " /var/log/dmesg
[01:55] <Gio2k> how can i get amarok to recognize i have two cd drives, when i choose "play audio CD" it always looks on only one drive?
[01:55] <Paras> atroWork, what about using qemu or similar
[01:55] <georgy> Paras : i think you can copy install floppy from the cd, then install via internet
[01:55] <khorlick> how do i use the "broken" filter to fix synaptic
[01:56] <simmerz> eyequeue: but it does sound like hda is the right disk.
[01:56] <atroWork> Paras, I don't know
[01:56] <Paras> atroWork, np
[01:57] <CokeNCode> ok, i just ran a program using the & sign after it
[01:57] <CokeNCode> yet, when i shut down xterm
[01:57] <R0cK3T> im using ubuntu 64 bit distro
[01:57] <CokeNCode> the program also closed
[01:57] <reitzell> I'm trying to compile mythtv and I got the error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt" what do you think that is?
[01:57] <CokeNCode> what am i doing wrong ... have i forgotten how '&' works
[01:57] <R0cK3T> is there anyways i can take the grub bootloader off the cd and put on a seperate cd?
[01:57] <simmerz> eyequeue: what does grub-install --no-floppy --recheck /dev/hda give you?
[01:57] <eyequeue> simmerz, it is the only disk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23268
[01:57] <jrib> CokeNCode: yep, that's normal.  Your terminal sends signal HUP.  use nohup or screen to run your program
[01:58] <atroWork> R0cK3T, to make a different cd bootable you mean?
[01:58] <R0cK3T> yeah
[01:58] <CokeNCode> jrib, so, how do i get to close xterm without closing the program
[01:58] <simmerz> those status errors don't look healthy
[01:58] <eyequeue> simmerz, it gives Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[01:58] <CokeNCode> i don't want a random xterm window just there floating around in the background doing nothing
[01:58] <R0cK3T> cause im constantly reinstalling
[01:58] <atroWork> R0cK3T, can't you just make the cd bootable with your burning program?
[01:58] <jrib> CokeNCode: just like I said, use nohup or screen :P
[01:58] <eyequeue> simmerz, and The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[01:58] <R0cK3T> i got 3 os's
[01:58] <lupine_85> CokeNCode: run it in a vt? :)
[01:58] <R0cK3T> well
[01:58] <bmrtin> is there a program to take a divx file and make a dvd
[01:59] <georgy> bmrtin : dvdrip
[01:59] <R0cK3T> burning the cd isn't the prob
[01:59] <CokeNCode> screen rocks
[01:59] <atroWork> georgy, other way around
[01:59] <R0cK3T> i need to know what files to put onto the cd first
[01:59] <jrib> CokeNCode: also, if you happen to use zsh you can run a program with, program &|
[01:59] <CokeNCode> nohup ... hmmm ... haven't heard of that
[01:59] <georgy> atrowork : sorry
[01:59] <eyequeue> CokeNCode, indeed
[01:59] <simmerz> eyequeue: what does /boot/device.map show?
[01:59] <R0cK3T> to make sure only grub will install
[01:59] <R0cK3T> and nothing else
[01:59] <CokeNCode> i only used screen before when i was ssh'ing into my box tho
[01:59] <R0cK3T> on hd0
[01:59] <byp_> Damn, I can't get irssi to list the users
[02:00] <byp_> "/who" doesn't work
[02:00] <CokeNCode> never imagined i'd have a use for it when i was actually at the terminal
[02:00] <jrib> byp_: /names
[02:00] <CokeNCode> where the heck is 'run as'
[02:00] <byp_> Thank you
[02:00] <CokeNCode> or 'run'
[02:00] <atroWork> R0cK3T, I guess I don't know what you're trying to do. Can you explain it so I can understand?
[02:00] <hikenboot> its curious but I see no way of doing a chroot into the cd created with uck...anyone know if there is a way of doing this?
[02:00] <eyequeue> simmerz, /boot/grub/device.map     (hd0)   /dev/hda
[02:00] <R0cK3T> np
[02:00] <byp_> Any way to pipe it through more or something?
[02:00] <falcongrinder> n00b here.  Anyone know how get gnomp3 installed?
[02:00] <R0cK3T> like i said
[02:00] <jrib> CokeNCode: ALT+F2
[02:00] <babyubuntu> i need to create an admin account through terminal
[02:00] <CokeNCode> jrib, ahhhh thanks
[02:00] <IcemanV9> CokeNCode: alt-f2
[02:00] <simmerz> eyequeue: thats right too. still reading threads
[02:00] <R0cK3T> im constantly reinstalling
[02:00] <jrib> babyubuntu: create a regular account and add him to the admin group
[02:00] <hikenboot> some customizations arnt  possible with the package manger
[02:00] <R0cK3T> but i want to be able to install grub seperatly
[02:00] <CokeNCode> i was trying alt + r
[02:01] <R0cK3T> on its own cd
[02:01] <babyubuntu> how do i add a user to admin group
[02:01] <jrib> babyubuntu: sudo adduser user_name admin
[02:01] <eyequeue> babyubuntu, sudo adduser foo admin
[02:01] <atroWork> R0cK3T, installing grub onto a cd, or from a cd?
[02:01] <R0cK3T> installing from a cd
[02:01] <R0cK3T> just grub
[02:01] <R0cK3T> lets say i have grub installed
[02:02] <eyequeue> R0cK3T, wouldn't that be nice?
[02:02] <atroWork> babyubuntu, you can also do it from a GUI in Users and Groups (system -> administration)
[02:02] <R0cK3T> but i have to reinstall my other distro of linux,, for w/e reason
[02:02] <babyubuntu> jrib: i have done that but I didn't get the gui administration menu
[02:02] <R0cK3T> it will overwrite the bootloader
[02:02] <R0cK3T> which i don't want it to do
[02:02] <R0cK3T> that's why i'd like to have it on a seperate cd
[02:02] <eyequeue> R0cK3T, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23267
[02:02] <R0cK3T> so i can reinstall grub
[02:02] <atroWork> it's not exactly what you're after, but you can boot to the ubuntu live cd and use the grub CLI from that
[02:03] <babyubuntu> atroWork: i don't have that menu, how can i get it?
[02:03] <jrib> babyubuntu: I didn't even realize it doesn't display for non admin users, but have you logged out and back in?
[02:03] <R0cK3T> i tried that already
[02:03] <babyubuntu> yes once
[02:03] <R0cK3T> but everytime i try to just install grub
[02:03] <R0cK3T> it reinstalls the base system
[02:03] <R0cK3T> which i don't need it to do
[02:03] <eyequeue> R0cK3T, sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub
[02:04] <babyubuntu> jrib: i will try another
[02:04] <R0cK3T> and i like this particular grub
[02:04] <atroWork> babyubuntu, yeah, you'll have to log in as an account that has admin access already
[02:04] <R0cK3T> cause it recognized all os's
[02:04] <atroWork> R0cK3T, you tried using grub's command line interface?
[02:04] <R0cK3T> so i'd prefer to have it on a seperate cd
[02:05] <R0cK3T> sry kinda new
[02:05] <simmerz> eyequeue: just noticed your paste on the ubuntu pastebin!
[02:05] <R0cK3T> no i haven't tried that
[02:05] <R0cK3T> dunno where it is
[02:05] <R0cK3T> :P
[02:05] <eyequeue> simmerz, what was it about?
[02:05] <acidchip> Rock3t: you should be able to split your partions on install and make a /boot partion
[02:05] <simmerz> eyequeue: your pastebin of your original paste!
[02:05] <eyequeue> simmerz, ah
[02:05] <simmerz> eyequeue: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23267
[02:05] <R0cK3T> bah
[02:05] <R0cK3T> i dunno how to do that
[02:05] <acidchip> then copy that partion to a cd
[02:05] <atroWork> R0cK3T, the live cd has grub's CLI installed on it, from the command prompt just type grub
[02:05] <hiro_p> Hi, everytime i try to compile something i get this message: "make: *** [default]  Error 2" can anybody help me?
[02:05] <simmerz> eyequeue: google showed me it!
[02:06] <gbutler69> Does anyone have any experience with Commercial Support contracts for Ubuntu in the U.S? Any recommendations?
[02:06] <R0cK3T> that's why i'd like to get it on a cd
[02:06] <R0cK3T> pop in the cd
[02:06] <atroWork> R0cK3T, you'll have to look up the syntax on how to use the CLI though
[02:06] <Flux_> hello can anyone tell me why I cant copy a file from HDD ro USB stick (it's saying read only)
[02:06] <eyequeue> simmerz, lol
[02:06] <R0cK3T> and reinstall grub whenever
[02:06] <simmerz> eyequeue: what version of grub are you using?
[02:06] <georgy> hiro_p : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:06] <hiro_p> i have them installed
[02:06] <eyequeue> !info grub dapper
[02:06] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[02:07] <georgy> hiro_p : suppose sudo make
[02:07] <eyequeue> simmerz, 0.97-1ubuntu9, from earlier today, as i said, it was lilo before
[02:07] <acidchip> Rock3t, you generally can't just go around arbitrarily installing grub
[02:07] <Flux_> hello can anyone tell me why I cant copy a file from HDD to USB stick (it's saying read only)
[02:07] <atroWork> Flux_, it appears your USB stick is mounted read only. You'll have to mount it with write access.
[02:07] <hiro_p> georgy: no, "sudo -i" and then make
[02:07] <R0cK3T> acidchip: why not?
[02:08] <Flux_> oh ok how do I change that atrowork?
[02:08] <acidchip> it's not that it's no possible, it's just not an easy thing to do
[02:08] <GStubbs43> Hey, I have a couple questions, 1) I have both Gnome and KDE on my computer, is there an automated way to put only kde apps on the KDE menu, and only gnome apps in the gnome menu? 2) Is there a way to install themes for Firefox 1.5 on Firefox 2.0? Thanks
[02:08] <Dysko> can anyone help me with this message?  "Makefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop."
[02:08] <byp_> Oh noes!
[02:08] <byp_> No grub.conf
[02:08] <lupine_85> Dysko: install the kernel headers
[02:08] <byp_> Shall I just make one?
[02:08] <georgy> hipo_p : try sudo make
[02:08] <eyequeue> byp_, not in ubuntu
[02:08] <simmerz> eyequeue: its very odd, I have to say. have you tried in #grub?
[02:09] <Dysko> How do I do that?
[02:09] <eyequeue> byp_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:09] <byp_> I see, so I can't add a GRUB passwd?
[02:09] <atroWork> Flux_, see if this link helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40854
[02:09] <byp_> :(
[02:09] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:09] <eyequeue> simmerz, yeah :( <jrydberg> actually, this channel is mostly about development of GRUB2
[02:09] <lupine_85> byp_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:09] <simmerz> eyequeue: doh
[02:09] <eyequeue> byp_, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:09] <Dysko> what is the uname-r bit?
[02:09] <byp_> Thanks, I should have looked at that before asking :-X
[02:10] <atroWork> GStubbs43, the themes have versions they work with coded into them. If it says it doesn't work in 2.0 you'll have to change the theme yourself to get it to work. Can't help you with the other question.
[02:10] <simmerz> eyequeue: sorry, I'm stumped
[02:10] <eyequeue> simmerz, me too
[02:10] <byp_> grub.conf a Red Hat thing?
[02:10] <eyequeue> simmerz, thanks though
[02:10] <simmerz> eyequeue: np
[02:10] <eyequeue> simmerz++
[02:11] <GStubbs43> Thanks for that, atroWork
[02:11] <hiro_p> georgy: sudo make also doesnt work. i still get a make[2] : *** [default]  Error 2
[02:12] <georgy> hiro_p : do you have make installed ?
[02:12] <Milktea> How do you center text in a System.out.print in Java?
[02:12] <__mikem> How do you get java to run faster?
[02:12] <hiro_p> greorgy: yes: "make is already the newest version."
[02:13] <fatbrain> Can I play wmv on Ubuntu?
[02:13] <__mikem> You strap it to a rocket
[02:13] <__mikem> !mp3
[02:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <georgy> !gstreamer
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <Milktea> How do you center text in a System.out.print in Java?
[02:13] <Milktea> :<
[02:13] <Milktea> I don't want anyone ranting about how Java sucks
[02:13] <Milktea> we all know it sucks
[02:13] <georgy> hiro_P : what the error message
[02:13] <Milktea> I need to learn it for comp sci
[02:14] <__mikem> Milktea, how many colums is the coonsole?
[02:14] <Milktea> I can expand it
[02:14] <Dysko> what is the exact syntax for installing the linux-headers
[02:14] <__mikem> yes but how many columns is it when the program runs?
[02:14] <Milktea> No clue
[02:14] <Milktea> :/
[02:14] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install linux-header-`uname -r`
[02:15] <IneedHelp> I can't get Ubuntu to install on my partition I made. It only shows 1 partition (15 GB) where I made 2 partitions (1gb for swap and 14 for /)
[02:15] <lupine_85> ` is a backtick not a single quote '
[02:15] <hiro_p> georgy: do you know a copy&paste service? i dont want to flood the channel
[02:15] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[02:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:15] <georgy> hiro_p : no
[02:15] <__mikem> Milktea you can always put a whole bunch of spaces (ascii 0x20) in front of the text in order to "simulate" centered text
[02:15] <mike___> Whats an easy way to install jre?
[02:15] <jrib> !java > mike___
[02:16] <georgy> mike__: sun-java5-bin
[02:16] <Milktea> ):
[02:16] <Flux_> atrowork that didnt seem to work cant you goto properties for usb thing and change it there?
[02:16] <boohberry> I'm looking to install the hwinfo package, and on the ubuntu website, it says it exists, but I can't find it with apt or synaptic. Is it missing? Or am I missing a repos?
[02:17] <__mikem> in C the only way to center text in a console is with ncurses
[02:17] <__mikem> or another ascii windowing system
[02:17] <CorpseFeeder> this computer won't let me get java.
[02:17] <IneedHelp> no love?
[02:17] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: why?
[02:17] <__mikem> CorpseFeeder, Coffee and computers don't mix
[02:18] <CorpseFeeder> for some reason when I try to tick in add/remove apps I get this...  "'sun-java5-bin' is not available in any software channel The application might not support your system architecture."
[02:18] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: whay arch?
[02:18] <IneedHelp> !partitions > me
[02:18] <CorpseFeeder> an AMD duron 1.2G
[02:19] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: have you enabled multiverse?
[02:19] <ookami> where can i get more information about troubleshooting my video capture card? im running a Philips Semiconductors SAA7134  (PCMCIA card)  i need a good starting point.
[02:19] <Dysko> that didn't work.  It says that there are no packages of that name.  The virtual packages I have have much more listed after what the uname -r gives me
[02:19] <CorpseFeeder> I don't know.. I ticked all the repositories in synaptic and I tick unsupported and commercial in add/remove apps
[02:20] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: you need to manually add multiverse I think.  Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link?
[02:20] <IneedHelp> any reason why I might not see the partitions I created in the partition table window in the next step of the install?
[02:21] <Viper550> Would Dapper Drake run good on a PIII with 128 MB ram?
[02:21] <ookami> viper550, i run dapper on a similar system... 600mhz celeron
[02:21] <lupine_85> Viper550: it should be OK
[02:21] <lupine_85> RAM is a bit low maybe
[02:21] <georgy> Viper550 : yes, but better with 256MB
[02:21] <iceman24k> anyone know why i cant get the nvidia driver to install in dapper
[02:21] <ookami> viper550 it runs, but not that great due to ram
[02:21] <lupine_85> swap++
[02:21] <anto9us> Viper550: get the alternate CD for install on less than 192MB
[02:22] <Viper550> I know that part of course!
[02:22] <lupine_85> xubuntu might be faster
[02:22] <Viper550> The Xubuntu Desktop CD barley ran on 128 MB ram
[02:22] <ookami> ^_^ so does anyone know where get troubleshooting info on capture cards?
[02:22] <iceman24k> I'm on a 4th install of dapper now, stupid nvidia drivers
[02:22] <Flux_> any else have on any tip on how to ake my USB stick not read only?
[02:22] <Viper550> But hey, at least the bootsplash was nice...icy blue Usplash always looks fresher than brown, but Orange is more satisfying
[02:22] <georgy> !nvidia
[02:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:23] <lostinc> Does anyone know DVD::Rip very well?
[02:23] <lupine_85> edgy bootsplash is very pretty
[02:23] <iceman24k> georgy been there done all that
[02:23] <daliansk1> !ati
[02:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:23] <Viper550> Yeah, even better on Edgy! Speaking of Edgy, has anyone tried Edgy on the aforemented hardware
[02:23] <IneedHelp> :(
[02:23] <anto9us> ookami: http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Saa7134_devices_%28saa713x%29
[02:23] <daliansk1> !^^
[02:23] <IneedHelp> !tell me about install
[02:23] <daliansk1> !ls
[02:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:24] <georgy> iceman24k :wich nvidia card
[02:24] <lupine_85> Viper550: hardware requirements won't be much higher, if at all
[02:24] <daliansk1> !uname -a
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uname -a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <lupine_85> this isn't windows ;)
[02:24] <CorpseFeeder> i pasted my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23269
[02:24] <daliansk1> !uname
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <ookami> thanks anto9us
[02:24] <daliansk1> !aptitude
[02:24] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:24] <Dysko> how do I get a list of the virtual packages for linux-header so I can install one
[02:24] <Viper550> I meant performance wise, does it run even better with all the performance modifications? (like upstart and the speedy gonzolas shutdown)
[02:25] <lupine_85> linux-headers
[02:25] <iceman24k> Damb kernel is smarter that the bios of the pc, reguardless of how i set the bios, Ubuntu forces me to install to the onboard video, the i have to reconfigure the NVidia drivers to be the default, then reconfigure the bios. anyone able to help set a duel video driver install up
[02:25] <lupine_85> apt-cache search linux-headers
[02:26] <Rinnt> !java
[02:26] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:26] <iceman24k> i fought this for 10 freaking hours yesterday and go absolutly nowhere
[02:26] <iceman24k> ok, time to reboot to the new 4th install
[02:27] <AngryElf> could someone ballpark me a base ubuntu installation in size?
[02:28] <lupine_85> AngryElf: less than 2GB
[02:28] <Flux_> ok so I installed a program but it doesnt show up in application list where can I find it?
[02:28] <IneedHelp> I split a 15 GB partition into a 1GB partition for swap and a 14 GB partition for the ubuntu OS, but the install only sees one 15GB partition. I need help
[02:28] <lupine_85> (for ubuntu-desktop)
[02:28] <AngryElf> cool, thanx
[02:28] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: i poseted the contents of my sources.list... am I missing something?
[02:29] <CorpseFeeder> poseted
[02:29] <CorpseFeeder> posted
[02:29] <Rinnt> Hey guys, does anyone know of a GUI Java programming enviornment? I'm taking a Java class and would like to code in Ubuntu...
[02:29] <Rinnt> *for linux
[02:29] <Rinnt> *Ubuntu
[02:30] <beemonk> i hate java
[02:30] <Dysko> !lupine_85 That install command will not install any packages
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lupine_85 That install command will not install any packages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <lupine_85> Dysko: it should do
[02:30] <Rinnt> beemonk,  ah someone with experience =) Know of a programming enviornment I use for it in Linux - GUI based that is?
[02:30] <lupine_85> unless you're running a non-standard kernel
[02:30] <simmerz> what runlevels do I have to put things in to have them start up on boot and stop on shutdown?
[02:30] <Dysko> it says that there are no packages of that name
[02:31] <IneedHelp> should my swap partition be a primary partition?
[02:31] <CorpseFeeder> doesn't java install on amd duron or something?
[02:31] <Dysko> could it have more after the `uname -r` feature?
[02:31] <beemonk> Rinnt : Unfortunately not...took it for a class in high school :/
[02:32] <panegi> alright i was in here earlier but i have one more question before i roll up my sleeves and dive straight into this linux thing. my harddisk is ntfs. i heard you cnat install linux on these kinds of drives. is this true?
[02:32] <beemonk> but....google is your friend
[02:32] <panegi> cant*
[02:33] <beemonk> panegi : read but not write unless im wron
[02:33] <beemonk> *wrong
[02:33] <panegi> oh
[02:33] <panegi> that sucks
[02:33] <panegi> so im stuck with windows until i get a new harddrive?
[02:33] <boohberry> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to find the hwinfo package?
[02:33] <panegi> or can i switch it to fat32 or whatever since im gonna format it anyway
[02:33] <ookami> Is there a different program than tvtime which i can test my tvcard with?
[02:34] <panegi> is there a way to do that?
[02:34] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: link to the post?
[02:34] <beemonk> panegi : i burnt a load of dvd's, then burn the ubuntu cd, did an automatic partition install and formatted it through the installer
[02:34] <CorpseFeeder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23269
[02:34] <beemonk> then formatted my other 2 drives to ext3
[02:35] <beemonk> but im a linux noob...ignore me :S
[02:35] <panegi> im gonna run by dariks boot and nuke before i try to install ubuntu, so would the file system even matter at that point?
[02:36] <IneedHelp> why doesn't the ubuntu installer work?
[02:36] <beemonk> huh?
[02:36] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: yes, to enable multiverse, edit the file and append " multiverse" to the end of lines 16, 17, 31, and 32.  Then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:37] <Olmy> is this related to a problem getting that gstreamer package to install?
[02:37] <panegi> its a boot floppy
[02:37] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[02:37] <panegi> it overwrites the entire hard drive with garbage data
[02:37] <Olmy> i'm having trouble installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[02:38] <Olmy> i know its not supported
[02:38] <jrib> Olmy: what trouble are you having exactly?
[02:38] <Olmy> error : gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse:
[02:38] <Olmy>  Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[02:38] <Olmy> i'm using synaptic
[02:38] <AngryElf> hmm, in the ubuntu installer, when partitioning and electing to resize the current partition the slider at the bottom says "new partition size", which is rather vague
[02:39] <jrib> Olmy: pastebin your sources.list please
[02:39] <AngryElf> does that mean the size it's going to shrink the current partition to?
[02:39] <jrib> !pastebin > Olmy
[02:39] <AngryElf> or is it the size of the new partition being created?
[02:39] <diego``> Hey, sorry if this was already asked, I searched google and couldn't find an answer... the thing is, I'm having problems with DGA, my gfx card is nvidia, closed-source drivers, ubuntu is up to date, X.org states that it loads the XFree86-DGA module, but when running xawtv with webcam it complains about DGA
[02:39] <Olmy> my sources list?
[02:39] <jrib> Olmy: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:39] <Olmy> k
[02:40] <panegi> im running windows xp right now, so if anyone has any experience with windows (i hear most linux users dont but its worth a shot) isnt there something you can enter in the command prompt to switch your harddrive from ntfs to fat32?
[02:40] <jrib> panegi: you can right click > go to properties and format it what you want.  You'll lose the data though.  There is also ##windows
[02:40] <IneedHelp> I can't get Ubuntu to install on my partition I made. It only shows 1 partition (15 GB) where I made 2 partitions (1gb for swap and 14 for /)
[02:41] <panegi> so after i format it the filesystem no longer matters?
[02:41] <CokeNCode> panegi, switch ... errr ... ur gonna lose everything
[02:41] <jrib> panegi: not sure what you mean by that
[02:42] <||arifaX> panegi you can not convert from ntfs back to fat32 but from fat32 to ntfs in windows xp you need 3rd party apps like partition magic or diskdirector
[02:42] <Olmy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23271
[02:42] <Lam_> formatting a partition with gparted renders it with a default name/label. how do i go about changing the name on an ext3 partition?
[02:42] <IneedHelp> panegi, you can't switch between filesystems, you need to format. formatting erases all data on a partition
[02:42] <panegi> my harddisk is ntfs, and i hear you cant install linux on that. or i may be wrong. i plan on running dariks boot and nuke before i install ubuntu, so after i run that would it even matter if it was ntfs or fat32?
[02:42] <||arifaX> panegi and windows can only format fat32 with 20gbytes since windows 2000
[02:42] <Olmy> actually
[02:42] <IneedHelp> linux can't write ntfs
[02:42] <panegi> im such a n00b
[02:43] <Olmy> now that i look at this file jrib
[02:43] <IneedHelp> well... it shouldn't anyway
[02:43] <Olmy> its probably obvious what the problem is
[02:43] <panegi> so what im asking is would i be able to install ubuntu to the harddrive after i ran dban?
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[02:44] <jrib> Olmy: yep, no dapper multiverse.  You know how to enable it?
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[02:44] <jrib> !ops
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[02:44] <Olmy> sorry no
[02:44] <Olmy> agh nice flood
[02:44] <iceman24k> anyone able to help install Nvidia drivers on a system with a onboard video
[02:44] <Olmy> just out of curiosity, why is is restricted anyway?
[02:44] <Lam_> is there a way to change a name/label on a partition like you can in windows? (on an ext3 partition)
[02:44] <IneedHelp> I can't get Ubuntu to install on my partition I made. It only shows 1 partition (15 GB) where I made 2 partitions (1gb for swap and 14 for /). I made the partitions in the partition table, but the install window doesn't see the partitions I made. Do they need to be mounted?
[02:45] <jrib> Olmy: append " multiverse" to the end of lines 17, 18, 32, and 33 (according to your paste)
[02:45] <jrib> Olmy: then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:45] <||arifaX> Lam_, you can change the mountpoint maybe this is what you want?
[02:45] <Olmy> ah, just like the comment earlier? :)
[02:45] <Dysko> so has anyone got any ideas on what I can use now as this command does not return any packages:  sudo apt-get install linux-header-`uname -r`
[02:45] <Olmy> will do
[02:45] <BlueEagle> Is it possible to make chmod set a different set of permissions on directories and files with the -R flag?
[02:45] <BlueEagle> I can't seem to find a way to do that in the manual.
[02:45] <lupine_85> Dysko: read what I wrote. linux-headers
[02:45] <jrib> Olmy: yep
[02:45] <lupine_85> note the extra s
[02:45] <mike___> I am unable to play saved streamed media?
[02:45] <panegi>  so what im asking is would i be able to install ubuntu to the harddrive after i ran dban?
[02:45] <IneedHelp> -R is recursive, all files/directories underneath the specified directory will be chmodded
[02:46] <Lam_> ||arifaX: so is that the only way to change a ext3 partition name?  i can change the mountpoint and it would change the label i suppose
[02:46] <Olmy> cheers for the help
[02:46] <||arifaX> thats what I suppose, too
[02:46] <Lam_> ||arifaX: i was probably looking for a more elegant method, but whatever works
[02:46] <jrib> BlueEagle: not that I know of, but you could use find to find all the files, then apply chmod to them.  And the same for the directories
[02:46] <BlueEagle> ineedhelp: I know that. The manual told me so. However I was wondering if it was a way to modify that behaviour so that action is only applied either on directories or files.
[02:46] <Chri1> Hey guys, is there an easy way that I can remotely control a friends ubuntu computer after we both set up software on our ubuntu machines (we live the other side of the world)
[02:46] <iceman24k> this Nvidia install has not worked, can you install them the old "Breezy" method ?
[02:46] <Dysko> thank you my good man.
[02:46] <BlueEagle> jrib: I can pipe the output from files I guess. Thanks for the tip.
[02:47] <imbrandon> Chri1, vnc
[02:47] <Dysko> will this mean that the make command I am using in a folder will actually work now?
[02:47] <panegi> does anyone know the answer to my question
[02:47] <Dysko> What question is that Panegi
[02:47] <lufis> I read somewhere about removing whitespace from XML config files to speed them up... any ideas on an automated tool to do this?
[02:47] <iceman24k> Chri1 i think you can aptget vnc
[02:48] <Olmy> brb while i test this
[02:48] <jrib> lufis: sed maybe?  I doubt it's worth it though
[02:48] <Dysko> #panegi What question?
[02:48] <lufis> jrib: well, anything to speed things up a bit :P
[02:49] <||arifaX> BlueEagle, you can use the output of an "ls" that just lists files or folders as input for your "chown" command maybe?
[02:49] <iceman24k> dang may have to just install Breezy, Dapper sucks
[02:49] <IneedHelp> I can't get Ubuntu to install on my partition I made. It only shows 1 partition (15 GB) where I made 2 partitions (1gb for swap and 14 for /). I made the partitions in the partition table, but the install window doesn't see the partitions I made. Do they need to be mounted?
[02:49] <iceman24k> without the Nvidia drivers, Dapper is worthless
[02:50] <byp_> Best bet to get an ATI card?
[02:50] <eyequeue> iceman24k, thanks, i didn't know
[02:50] <eyequeue> iceman24k, i'll remove it immediately
[02:50] <c_olin_> I'm using Gnome and one of my desktop icons is about three times as big as the others... how can I make a desktop icon smaller?
[02:50] <iceman24k> byp_ i'll stick with a Nvidia, why spend money if i don't need
[02:50] <IneedHelp> I have 2GB of RAM, do I need a swap partition?
[02:51] <byp_> :)
[02:51] <borelia> no i can turn it off, if u need later on for some reason turn it on
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k:
[02:52] <mike___> What do i need to play saved "flash video"?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: can you describe the problem or post your xorg?
[02:52] <Rinnt> beemonk, if someone else comes around looking for what I was, please point them to Eclipse.  I *think* that's my solution...
[02:52] <zmaster> hi there, is there a reason why it is not possible tonight to connect to the MSN Service, either using Gaim or Kopete?
[02:53] <zanth> hello, I recently received some errors from grub, a series of 9's
[02:53] <zanth> aftera  few reboots, everything was fine to enter ubuntu
[02:53] <zanth> but now I am unable to load XP, it read hal.dll is missing
[02:53] <IneedHelp> ubuntu is breaking my brain
[02:53] <Phoul> Replacement brain is on the way
[02:53] <mad_man> is it safe to update x11 font rasterisation library ( libxfont1 ) on ubuntu system ?
[02:54] <IneedHelp> I can't get Ubuntu to install on my partition I made. It only shows 1 partition (15 GB) where I made 2 partitions (1gb for swap and 14 for /). I made the partitions in the partition table, but the install window doesn't see the partitions I made. Do they need to be mounted?
[02:54] <zanth> so I suppose my question is, how to boot up windows again
[02:54] <mike___> what plays asf files?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: IS this a dual boot system?
[02:54] <IneedHelp> yes
[02:54] <jrib> mike___: mplayer can play them, vlc too (referring to your flash video question)
[02:54] <IneedHelp> I installed winblows first
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> zanth: fdisk /mbr after booting a windows cd
[02:55] <mike___> jrib: no luck with vlc
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: perfect..
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> are you running live now?
[02:55] <IneedHelp> I am
[02:55] <zanth> Jack_Sparrow: will this in any way screw grub from acting as the boot loader?
[02:55] <IneedHelp> I'm on it... GAIM :)
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> zanth: yes
[02:55] <mike___> jrib: plays in Debian using vlc
[02:55] <zanth> Jack_Sparrow: okay, so then what would I need to do to get access to ubuntu again?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> zanth: reinstall grub, but if you lost hal... there may be more to this
[02:56] <zanth> ok
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: So let me work with you first...
[02:56] <IneedHelp> :)
[02:56] <Olmy> so question, installing the packages listed on the restricted formats page for mp3 playback etc, will mean i can playback mp3s in amarok?
[02:57] <zanth> Jack_Sparrow: I am in ubuntu now, so I should reinstall grub?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Use the install icon to get to gparted
[02:57] <zanth> Jack_Sparrow: and if that does not work, try teh windows XP disc?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> zanth: I would try that first yes.
[02:57] <zanth> okay cool
[02:57] <zanth> thanks
[02:57] <zanth> bbiab
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> zanth: I fear more has gone wrong..
[02:57] <Flux_> ok so I installed a program but it doesnt show up in application list where can I find it?
[02:57] <IneedHelp> im on the prepare partitions screen
[02:57] <jrib> Flux_: what program?
[02:58] <Flux_> rar/winrar
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: Sorry... Ok, I would delete the swap and ext3 you created,, save the changes, back up a couple steps and tell the installer to use all unallocated space.
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[02:58] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:58] <jrib> Flux_: you installed rar from the repositories?
[02:58] <mad_man> Flux type the name of program in shell
[02:58] <IneedHelp> is it possible to control the size of my swap if I do that?
[02:58] <Flux_> yea
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: let it do it manually change later if needed.
[02:59] <IneedHelp> i can change it later? wouldn't I need to reformat to change the partitions?
[02:59] <BlueEagle> ok, I've come a little further but the command: sudo find . -type f -exec chmod g-x "{}" \;  gives me no such file or directory although it lists the files. I might need to have it escape spaces but I don't know how.
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Olmy: yes
[02:59] <IneedHelp> "Failed to partition the selected disc"
[03:00] <jrib> Flux_: yeah, it's command line.  Try 'man rar'.  But the archive manager should now let you work with rar files
[03:00] <Olmy> well i seem to have hit a problem
[03:00] <IneedHelp> should I umount everything?
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: It would not let you delete the partition?
[03:00] <mook> Hi, I was watching a streaming WMV9 video via the MMS protocol just fine earlier, but now I can't because it
[03:00] <iceman24k> anyone know why i cannot get the Nvidia driver to install
[03:00] <mook> 's really choppy and always buffering.
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: Ah, didnt know you mounted it
[03:00] <Olmy> i can play in vlc though :P
[03:00] <mook> Totem and VLC exhibit the same behavior.
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: did you edit your xorg?
[03:01] <IneedHelp> I deleted the ext and linux-swap partitions then went back to install on the largest continuous space and it said it failed to partition the space
[03:01] <IneedHelp> I dont know if it's mounted... should have checked, I will, brb
[03:01] <IneedHelp> where is the console?
[03:01] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow spent 10 hours fighting this driver yesterday, im on a new install now.
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: exit the installer and go back and see what partitions it sees
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: did you edit your xorg?
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: can you post your xorg?
[03:02] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow not today, but yesterday yes. and all i did was toast the install
[03:02] <BlueEagle> never mind. removing the quotes fixed ith.
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Icemando you know how to post or edit your xorg
[03:02] <BlueEagle> jrib: thanks for the heads-up on find. :)
[03:02] <[Laptop] Meglo> sudo make me a sandwich
[03:02] <compu73rg33k> how do you search for a list of packages with apt ?
[03:03] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow i can pastebin it ... one sec
[03:03] <iceman24k> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:03] <jrib> BlueEagle: np
[03:03] <compu73rg33k> apt-cache search ?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Iceman: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[03:03] <wd3> anybody heard of circle button bar?
[03:03] <Flux_> jrib: I get No manual entry for rar
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:03] <[Laptop] Meglo> Wow, this chat can get crazy with all the questions, can't it?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[03:04] <[Laptop] Meglo> I feel sorry for all the contributors here answering redundant questions, even though I would probably ask those same questions.
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: the first makes a backup so you can run live and fix it..
[03:04] <compu73rg33k> what would be the difference btween the php5 package and the php5-dev package?
[03:04] <[Laptop] Meglo> :|
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: the second just lets you view it for posting to the pastebin
[03:04] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23273 thats the default with the onboard driver
[03:04] <jrib> Flux_: hmm me too, guess /usr/share/doc/rar is what you will need to look into.  But isn't the archive manager letting you create and read rar files now?
[03:05] <Flux_> jrib: well its opening up in ark
[03:05] <IneedHelp> Jack_Sparrow: it's installing using largest continuous space
[03:05] <IneedHelp> what will default swap be?
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool
[03:06] <jrib> Flux_: oh, archive manager is the gnome tool
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> 512 to 2 gig
[03:06] <iceman24k> jack_Sparrow i made a backup
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks ice
[03:06] <IneedHelp> I have 2GB of ram so I dont think I really need swap...
[03:06] <jazzrocker> IneedHelp, you need swap
[03:06] <Harper> hey! i need losts of help
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Icemanpastebin is slow
[03:06] <Flux_> jrib: I remeber a page in the ubuntu manual for explanation oof all the folders like etc bin media and all others what do I search for to find that?
[03:07] <jrib> Harper: hi! just ask
[03:07] <compu73rg33k> is there a difference between php5 and php5-dev packages?
[03:07] <jazzrocker> IneedHelp, it's required. you don't have to make it the full size of your ram but making it about equal is a good idea
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: Yes, you do need swap, but we can go over that after your install
[03:07] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow I have to install to the onboard video with ubuntu, the reconfig the drivers, the reboot, reset bios, then boot ubuntu once the config is complete, but after 10 hours yesterday i have no luck
[03:07] <jazzrocker> IneedHelp, and if you've got 2G of ram i'm guessing your hard disk can spare an extra 2G for swap
[03:08] <k3rnel> I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu 6.06.1, and I have an Nvidia Geforce 5700 256mb card. I installed the driver via Automatix, but I can not get the resolution above 1024x768 @ 60hz. This will do a higher resolution, up to 1280x1024, and worked fine on the 32 bit install?
[03:08] <Flannel> jazzrocker, IneedHelp, you don't need more than 1GB swap
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: I would love to drive a stake through that I810 as you would about now
[03:08] <jazzrocker> IneedHelp, well there you go
[03:08] <Flannel> IneedHelp: with 2GB ram, if it's a desktop machine, you probably don't need swap, period.
[03:08] <lupine_85> I didn't install using automatix though
[03:09] <lupine_85> Flannel: it doesn't hurt to have it though
[03:09] <Flannel> IneedHelp: but, if youre doing high memory stuff, you may.
[03:09] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow would a 915 chipset be easier on a Dell ?
[03:09] <k3rnel> lupine: did you install the drivers from Nvidia's site?
[03:09] <DethKlok> how do i get static address using the command line?
[03:09] <abraxus> i wonder can anyone help me?
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Youll get better res with the nv
[03:09] <iceman24k> Never had a issue with a 810 Dell system, breezy i could install this in 5 or 10 minutes
[03:09] <IneedHelp> Is there a way to enable linux to write to ntfs legally?
[03:09] <k3rnel> deth: ifconfig -h will give you the options you need
[03:10] <jrib> Flux_: not sure about the ubuntu manual but file:///usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/fhs-2.3.html should give you lots of detail
[03:10] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow i have another pc here, if the Chipset would be easier to work with.
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> IneedHelp: Not a good idea.. but yes legal
[03:11] <Flux_> jrib: If I want to run an application without going to application- internet-appname where can I find the "actual application"
[03:11] <abraxus> anyone here know about dual boot sytems?
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Icemanthe prob is the onboard video not being shut down in the bios
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: I know you did it, but I cant figure why it is still seeing it.
[03:11] <Harper> Ok Im extremely pleased with ubuntu but since my printer is not supported and i really need a printer fast i must switch back to windows.
[03:11] <Harper> but there is an alternative
[03:11] <jrib> Flux_: well you can use the menu editor to see the path to the binary that the launcher is running
[03:12] <mad_man> abraxus: i have 4 o/s's booting on this machine
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: that was a compaq right?
[03:12] <Harper> i need to get turboprint to work in order to save myself from installing windows again
[03:12] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow  without the onboard on, ubuntu wont boot if i try to install to the Nvidia. Kernel see's the onboard during install reguardless of the Bios
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: what model #.. I need to read up..
[03:12] <Harper> anyone have experience with turboprint?
[03:12] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow presario SR1103WM
[03:12] <abraxus> mad_man : i have just installed ubuntu in a partition on my hdd problem is that when i try and boot xp again iit says autochk program not found
[03:13] <abraxus> i know i gotta set teh partition where xp is to active but i am not sure how
[03:13] <Flux_> jrib: are most applications installed in "/usr/bin" I am talking about the "program files" foler link in windows
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Can you try something next time you boot that...
[03:13] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow if the Dell Optiplex would be easier, ill install using it.
[03:13] <Harper> any have experience with turboprint? or anyone know how to print on linux with an unsupported printer?
[03:13] <jrib> Flux_: most user applications will get the binaries installed there afaik
[03:14] <mad_man> abraxus: you installed grub ? just asking
[03:14] <abraxus> yes grub is there mad_man
[03:14] <iceman24k> bios seem more friendly on the dell
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Grub Boot Options "F6"  vga=normal  pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600
[03:14] <Harper> i need to get my work printed for tomorrow...
[03:14] <eirc> hello some help with xgl.. since i installed it i can't login to a normal x session but only to the xgl one
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> See if live will boot to vesa with the intel onboard off.
[03:15] <iceman24k> type that at boot ?
[03:15] <Dysko> I have to add ndiswrapper to the startup module.  Where is it?
[03:15] <mad_man> abraxus: take a look see at your menu list and see if the windows chainlaoder is there
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: boot live to install or start... hit F6
[03:15] <iceman24k> then type that
[03:15] <fab31> spacefinn: haha, I love your name :P
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Edit the command line with those options...
[03:16] <Harper> i need to print my work for tomorrow, i have a Canon i350, i have turboprint installed (free version, converted it from rpm to deb using alien.) Ubuntu detects the printer, the Printer detects the computer. Can't get anything to work.
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: I will wait if you want to try it real quick
[03:16] <Dysko> where are the startup modules and how do I add a line to them?
[03:16] <iceman24k> brb
[03:17] <Harper> anyone using turboprint?
[03:17] <abraxus> no mad_man i cant dfind the windows chainloader
[03:17] <quiet> i'm trying to install bugzilla on my machine.. and i've got all of the perl modules installed and whatnot...the checksetup.pl script comes back clean... but when I try to view the bugzilla page.. it just comes back as text... what am i not doing right?
[03:17] <Harper> cause im going to flush my hard drive and just install xp again
[03:17] <spacefinn> fab31: why? :P
[03:17] <Harper> which i dont want
[03:17] <fab31> hehe :)
[03:17] <fab31> It makes me think about the movie =)
[03:17] <spacefinn> heh
[03:17] <spacefinn> movie?
[03:18] <fab31> caraibeans pirates
[03:18] <Harper> anyone?
[03:18] <spacefinn> ...
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> harper what printer?
[03:18] <Harper> Canon i350
[03:18] <fab31> maybe you don't like it...
[03:18] <Dysko> anybody?
[03:18] <spacefinn> mine comes from a pers in the game Escape Velocity: Override ;)
[03:18] <Harper> i have to installation disk from windows
[03:18] <nol13> can anyone help me set up my wireless? i think hotplugging is being screwy
[03:18] <spacefinn> so I don't know where other people think my name comes from ;)
[03:18] <Harper> i tried wineing it but nothing happened
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Harper: Sorry... I have i8something on the shelf
[03:18] <Harper> ok
[03:19] <fab31> spacefinn: Oh :) mine is from a french anime, "Ulysse 31"
[03:19] <spacefinn> heh
[03:19] <Harper> so the best thing to do is to install windows right?
[03:19] <spacefinn> cool
[03:19] <spacefinn> not that I'm familar with it :)
[03:19] <fab31> that is a futuristic view of the story of Ulysse
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Harper: Dual boot works great for me.
[03:19] <Harper> or is there a vm for linux that will run windows xp?
[03:19] <Flux_> jrib: ok so when I doubleclick an application in the usr/bin dir why isnt the executable running?
[03:19] <fab31> spacefinn: where are you from ?
[03:19] <Harper> grub doesn't work for me
[03:19] <spacefinn> fab31: USA
[03:19] <Harper> can't boot windows
[03:19] <jrib> Flux_: which application
[03:19] <mad_man> abraxus: u oped the grub menu.lst file and theres no intree for windows ? nothing ?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Harper: You will still probably have a printer issue doing that
[03:19] <Flux_> jrib: xmms
[03:19] <Harper> ok
[03:20] <fab31> spacefinn: oh, of course you quite can't know that =)
[03:20] <Harper> so right to my face what should i do?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> abraxus: Did you update recently?
[03:20] <spacefinn> fab31: yeah ;)
[03:20] <Flux_> oh wait
[03:20] <Dysko> Jack_Sparrow, where are the startup modules in Ubuntu?
[03:20] <fab31> Harper: what is your like of config ? and what is windows' disk ?
[03:20] <Dysko> I have to add ndiswrapper
[03:20] <abraxus> Jack_Sparrow - this is a fresh install 6.06
[03:20] <abraxus> i am a n00b to linux
[03:20] <abraxus> but i need to make sure i can boot xp as well
[03:20] <Harper> what do you mean by my config?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Harper: With your time crunch, Install XP get your work done, but when installing XP save drive space for Ubuntu
[03:21] <fab31> Harper: grub.conf
[03:21] <abraxus> and its on a hdd partition that is not set to active
[03:21] <Harper> ok
[03:21] <Flux_> jrib: its running
[03:21] <Harper> can windows xp install an a seperate partition?
[03:21] <Harper> ok picture this
[03:21] <Harper> i have a HUGE unallocated space
[03:21] <fab31> Harper: yes...
[03:21] <Harper> which belonged to xp before
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Harper: Windows wants to be fiurst os on the first partition
[03:22] <Harper> now i deleted it and gave it to ubuntu
[03:22] <fab31> Jack_Sparrow: but you can fake it in grub
[03:22] <nvicf> hi there
[03:22] <Harper> ok
[03:22] <Harper> so i pop the cd in
[03:22] <abraxus> Jack_Sparrow : i think thats my problem - windows is not teh first os on hdd
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> fab31: You can but it is an uphill battle... Best to give XP what it wants
[03:22] <Harper> and tell it to write to the largest unallocated space?
[03:22] <fab31> Harper: ok, so you don't have windows anymore at this moment ?
[03:22] <abraxus> i think the ubuntu section is first
[03:22] <Harper> no
[03:22] <Harper> i dont
[03:22] <Harper> only ubuntu
[03:23] <fab31> Harper: so it's windows installation question, not ubuntu one, right ?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> correct
[03:23] <fab31> Jack_Sparrow: I agree
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:23] <tamacracker> Hey guys! I have a quick question about email
[03:23] <IneedHelp> I tolerate windows 2000 cause it doesn't bother me as much as windows
[03:23] <Harper> my question is: Is there i way to get an unsupported printer
[03:23] <IneedHelp> xp
[03:23] <Harper> running again
[03:23] <jrib> Harper: have you checked linuxprinting.org
[03:23] <Harper> yes
[03:24] <tamacracker> Is it possible to use my Evolution email program to check my hotmail account?
[03:24] <iCod> If anyone makes podcasts in ubuntu I'd like to talk to them
[03:24] <Harper> called futureshop several times
[03:24] <IneedHelp> Jack_Sparrow, will grub be installed?
[03:24] <fab31> Harper: is there any link between that question and the grub one ? is your winXP installation need related to this printer ?
[03:24] <Harper> no decent and afforable printer that i can buy today
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tamacracker: I use Thunderbird to check mine, but yes, I think I did it once with evo... just to do it
[03:24] <ebogart> Hello... looking for help getting sound card working properly.
[03:24] <Harper> ok tell you what
[03:24] <fab31> ebogart: just wait, it worked for me ;)
[03:24] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow f6 would no give me a Command line to enter that
[03:25] <IneedHelp> I thought hotmail was only web-based, you can use mail clients?
[03:25] <ebogart> fab31: haha, thanks :)
[03:25] <Harper> im going to try and install windows and keep ubuntu then im going to try to boot it with grub.
[03:25] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow booted normal, and it ignores me
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> fab31: Yes, he must print some things tonight and he has an unsupported cannon
[03:25] <Harper> i really want to keep ubuntu
[03:25] <Flux_> jrib: sorry for bothering you again and again :) I am trying to install opera browser I downloaded the deb file from their site but it says while installing it conflicts with package opera . I havent installed it before
[03:25] <tamacracker> well... this is the thing back in the day i was able to use bellsouth's web based email account when i had bellsouth...
[03:25] <AngryElf> how come linux-686-smp doesn't install a 686-smp kernel?
[03:25] <jrib> !opera > Flux_
[03:25] <tamacracker> so im assuming that it can be done with hotmail
[03:25] <IneedHelp> Harper, why do you need windows?
[03:25] <IneedHelp> WINE
[03:25] <Harper> to print!
[03:26] <Flux_> !opera
[03:26] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:26] <fab31> Harper: ok, so now I think you can install winXP on the free space, it's a bit risky but try... and then you can boot ubuntu's CD to re-install grub
[03:26] <IneedHelp> printing is overrated
[03:26] <IneedHelp> there are printer drivers for linux
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Harper: You can add a partition in front of ubuntu for XP but you will then need to edit your grub..before you can load it
[03:26] <ebogart> amen, ineedhelp.  printing is for squares
[03:26] <Harper> wow
[03:26] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow let me try the Dell, maybe it will play nicer with ubuntu, heck it's a hyprethead system anyways.
[03:26] <Harper> i have compizxgl on ubuntu
[03:27] <fab31> Harper: if you'r ubuntu is fresh install without important things, I suggest you to repartition and reinstall everything starting with winXP to get it on the first slice...
[03:27] <Twinxor_> can someone explain how to edit sudoers?
[03:27] <Harper> i really dont want to lose all that work
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: what do you mean it booted normal?
[03:27] <Twinxor_> it is really confusing me
[03:27] <Harper> im soooo screwed
[03:27] <tyler_d> I cannot burn music using rythmplayer??? any ideas?
[03:27] <Twinxor_> I'd love to give myself priviliges to run ifup and ifdown
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: You added those commands correct?
[03:27] <fab31> Harper: you can do that, but winXP always try to get the first slice so it may erase everything
[03:27] <quiet> sudo ifup  or sudo ifdown
[03:27] <fab31> Harper: and I'm not winXP guru :(
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Harper, sorry but ice was first..
[03:28] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow booted as usualy, but f6 did nothing, and it hands at the loading hardware part of the boot processes.
[03:28] <Harper> ok im going to see what i can do
[03:28] <Harper> thank you for everything
[03:28] <fab31> np
[03:28] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow hangs at the hardware loading area during boot
[03:28] <Harper> means alot
[03:28] <fab31> yw
[03:28] <Dysko> Where are the startup modules for Ubuntu?  I need to add the ndiswrapper line to them.
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: you booted livcd to the start install prompt and f6 did notheing
[03:28] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow oh, boot the cd, i booted to hdd :(
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Nooooo
[03:29] <fab31> iceman24k: can you get a GRUB prompt ?
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Try again
[03:29] <iceman24k> I'll boot the Live cd... then enter that line ok, my bag
[03:29] <theBishop> i'm trying to connect to a SMB on Ubuntu from a windows manchine, and it asks for a user/pass
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> :) tired here myself
[03:29] <iceman24k> back in a bit
[03:29] <iceman24k> i hope
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:30] <ebogart> jack_sparrow i'm impressed that you're still on here
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Me too
[03:30] <ebogart> that's some endurance there :)
[03:30] <astig> quick question: where's the howto on reinstalling windows without killing ubuntu grub? thanks
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Fading, but I promised to wait for Iceman to boot
[03:30] <astig> !grub
[03:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:30] <astig> got it hehe
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> astig: Installing windows WILL kill grub... but it is fixable..
[03:31] <ebogart> Jack_sparrow  you know much about soundcard fiddling?
[03:31] <exs> If firefox is asking me to open a torrent, and I'd like to choose Ktorrent, where would I go to find it's excutable?
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Not really
[03:31] <freddirkse> hi all.  anyone have some knowledge on software raid?
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[03:31] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:31] <ebogart> jack_sparrow my impression is that i'm probably not going to run into someone with that info in here?
[03:31] <astig> exs, /usr/bin/ktorrent?
[03:31] <Crescendo> I need to capture video of my Ubuntu Desktop - how would I go about this?
[03:32] <freddirkse> ...yeah...I need more than tips and tricks though :)
[03:32] <SilentOutcast> can someone help me setting up the mysql extension for PHP5
[03:32] <exs> ok thanks
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> ebogart: Actually yes there are... what is the question
[03:32] <freddirkse> had it running nice, upgraded kernel, now I can't boot.
[03:32] <GTroy> anyone know of a good video compressor?
[03:32] <GTroy> i.e. handbrake for ubuntu?
[03:32] <James296> is it at all possible to easily make my wireless linksys usb device to work properly?
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> freddirkse: Just cant dual boot windows with software raid.
[03:32] <[Laptop] Meglo> Shouldn't this channel be split into maybe 4-8 other channels because 900 people feels like a crowd. :<
[03:32] <astig> exs, im not sure, but you're better off looking the link up on the menu properties, or via terminal 'which ktorrent'
[03:33] <freddirkse> I'm not dual booting.  This is a new server I'm working on.
[03:33] <exs> ok
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !ndiswrapper > James296
[03:33] <exs> well it's worked anyway
[03:33] <fab31> GTroy: what do you need to do with it ?
[03:33] <ebogart> jack_sparrow I can get audio to play in rhythmbox, or a few other players, but can't get it recognize in java.  i get "no sound card detected"
[03:33] <GTroy> rip dvd's to 700mb
[03:33] <fab31> GTroy: are you newbie or hacker ?
[03:33] <James296> well, I said an EASY way lol
[03:33] <GTroy> prolly neither
[03:33] <[Laptop] Meglo> GTroy, you want to compress a DVD to something like a video CD?
[03:33] <fab31> intermediate ?
[03:34] <GTroy> I just want to compress backup dvds
[03:34] <fab31> GTroy: I did some tool for that, using mplayer/mencder etc...
[03:34] <tyler_d> how do i add my cd burner to kernel?
[03:34] <GTroy> I saw mencoder
[03:34] <freddirkse> It was all working fine...I upgraded the kernel via apt-get, and when I reboot now it just hangs on the new kernel.  Previous kernel seg faults and says "/dev/md1 not a valid device' or something similiar
[03:34] <GTroy> didn't know if it worked well
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> James296: It isnt hard...
[03:34] <fab31> GTroy: it's quite good frontend imho, but maye contain some limitations/bugs... I can give you the development version
[03:34] <theBishop> i'm trying to connect to a SMB on Ubuntu from a windows manchine, and it asks for a user/pass
[03:34] <fab31> GTroy: that supports DVD quite well
[03:34] <brendonjt> hows everyone going here
[03:35] <fab31> GTroy: mencoder is excellent in general
[03:35] <GTroy> fab31, that'd be great
[03:35] <fab31> it can even encode to h264
[03:35] <GTroy> ok, I'm not afraid of the command line
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> GTroy: How are you making your backup file?
[03:35] <fab31> oh
[03:35] <[Laptop] Meglo> use bold to grab attention
[03:35] <GTroy> fab31? really h.264?
[03:35] <James296> lol, the one I looked at to get it working doesnt sound like letting me waste my time on that since I already have a PCI one, is it true that PCI is worse than the USB one?
[03:35] <GTroy> right now I'm using k9
[03:35] <Flux_> jrib: thanks fo all the help
[03:35] <fab31> GTroy: so if cmdline is good for you, just take a look to mencoder/mplayer
[03:35] <Flux_> for)
[03:35] <jrib> Flux_: np
[03:35] <GTroy> fab31 thanks, what I needed to know
[03:36] <hikenboot> question anyone know of a copy of ubuntu-desktop that has been customized with dummy packages so openoffice gimp...etc...etc can be removed?
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> James296: no pci is easier than most usb
[03:36] <fab31> GTroy: http://fab.gnux.info/ve/
[03:36] <freddirkse> anyone know why a kernel upgrade causes my software raid array to not be found now?
[03:36] <GTroy> fab31 thank you!
[03:37] <fab31> this is the official site, I'm gonna give you the latest version (that is much better)
[03:38] <fab31> GTroy: http://fab.gnux.info/ve/versatile.tar.bz2
[03:38] <fab31> GTroy: if you have questions/reports you can talk to me directly on this server
[03:38] <GTroy> fab31, nice!
[03:38] <fab31> GTroy: hehe, in fact I was busy to continue but in a few days it'll be better, so I need testers to test new features :P
[03:38] <GTroy> fab31, that's great, will do
[03:38] <fab31> actually I just have one
[03:39] <fab31> GTroy: where are you from ?
[03:39] <jesus_> i have suceffull downloaded the Edgy, but when its start from CD its return a lecture error on some block, i tried burning another CD but otherwise this ocurr... what happened?
[03:39] <jesus_> the MD5 is good
[03:39] <jesus_> :(
[03:39] <TokenBad> if have a file and want it to be able to be edit by everyone...what would the chmod command be to set it?
[03:39] <GTroy> I'm from eastern washington
[03:39] <jesus_> 2 times same error
[03:39] <fab31> oh
[03:39] <IneedHelp> How do I make sure linux has the latest drivers?
[03:39] <GTroy> I started on breezy
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jesus_: See #ubuntu+1
[03:39] <IneedHelp> is there an apt for it?
[03:39] <fab31> that just if you were from elsewere you could be a translator ;)
[03:39] <GTroy> :D
[03:40] <jesus_> IneedHelp chmod 777
[03:40] <Flannel> IneedHelp: you're using apt? or a frontend?
[03:40] <Flannel> jesus_: what?
[03:40] <fab31> GTroy: linux or ubuntu ?
[03:40] <jesus_> #ubuntu+1?
[03:40] <fab31> GTroy: I mean, any experience before ?
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> GTroy: I have a house on the penninsula
[03:40] <jesus_> ubuntu
[03:40] <Flannel> jesus_: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[03:40] <IneedHelp> exit
[03:40] <GTroy> jack_sparrow, nice
[03:40] <jesus_> ok thanks
[03:40] <GTroy> linux
[03:40] <fab31> ok
[03:40] <GTroy> started with mandrake
[03:40] <jesus_> \join #ubuntu+1
[03:40] <GTroy> before mandriva
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jesus_: This is Dapper... edgy is +1
[03:40] <fab31> I know :)
[03:40] <jesus_> thanks ok
[03:40] <jesus_> :)
[03:40] <bruenig> dapper, breezy, hoary, warty
[03:41] <fab31> I'm quite old boy, started with slackware 3 :P
[03:41] <jesus_> \join #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <Flannel> jesus_: / not \
[03:41] <James296> I know PCI is easier than USB but is it faster?
[03:41] <jesus_> lol
[03:41] <jesus_> sorry
[03:41] <ebogart> Anyone able to give help re: sound issues?
[03:41] <bruenig> !anyone
[03:41] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:41] <Flannel> !tell ebogart about sound
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> James296: I dont think the limiting factor is the port but the device itself
[03:42] <James296> so its the same then
[03:42] <ebogart> flannel:  thanks.
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> should be
[03:42] <nocti> !tell nocti about windows
[03:42] <fab31> ubotu: it's generic IRC "rules" btw, "don't ask to ask" :P
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it's generic IRC "rules" btw, "don't ask to ask" :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <lhds> hello i am not happy with my hdd. its making repeated noises, and its hanging at shutdowns and boots... is there a way i can perform scan for bad sectors and filesystem, like scandisk in dos?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> I must be tired
[03:43] <nocti> lhds, fsck
[03:43] <lhds> its new
[03:43] <lhds> less than a year and a half
[03:43] <nocti> lhds, fsck
[03:43] <lhds> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[03:43] <lhds> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> umount it
[03:43] <nocti> lhds, umount it first
[03:44] <lhds> shall i run it from live cd on unmounted drive by /dev/hda1 for ex?
[03:44] <nvicf> how can I record from the dsp directly?
[03:44] <wasabi> lhds, If it's making noises, it's mechanical failure.
[03:44] <wasabi> It's going to die.
[03:44] <wasabi> Save your data now. ;)
[03:44] <TeePOG> morning all
[03:45] <lhds> the noise is like its working but its the same repeatedly and its short noise
[03:45] <nocti> lhds, that's ok any which way you want to run it, just umount the target disk/partition first, and take wasabi's advice: BACKUP NOW
[03:45] <thanksjac1> formerly "IneedHelp"... btw, thanks jack
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Huh?
[03:45] <lhds> in morse its more like --   -   --   -   --   -
[03:45] <thanksjac1> the install worked.
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: you got it..
[03:45] <TokenBad> if have a file and want it to be able to be edit by everyone...what would the chmod command be to set it?
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[03:46] <thanksjac1> man this os is FAST
[03:46] <lhds> okay ill fck it
[03:46] <bruenig> TokenBad, chmod 777 gives all permissions to everyone
[03:46] <nocti> TokenBad, man chmod
[03:46] <thanksjac1> I swore when I saw how responsive it was
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: You should see it about 8am pacific..
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> It is a blur
[03:46] <thanksjac1> hehe
[03:47] <TokenBad> bruenig, chmod 777 filename?
[03:47] <thanksjac1> I like ubuntu
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: Glad you are up and running
[03:47] <bruenig> TokenBad, yep
[03:47] <dion> Is it probable that I could experience poor network performance in ubuntu with out tweaking any settings after an initial install?
[03:47] <thanksjac1> how do I check my swap size?
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: Please feel free to come back with any questions, and NOW would be a great time for a backup
[03:47] <nocti> thanksjac1, top
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: tar -cvpzlf /backup.tgz --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz /  from terminal
[03:48] <TylerDurdener> if i want to edit xconfig in /usr/src/, do i need to rebuild my kernel to apply the changes i made?
[03:48] <thanksjac1> sounds good, I'll do that mysterious command
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[03:48] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:48] <Dysko> I have used ndiswrappper for my wifi card and got this as a response:  "net5211         driver present, hardware present"
[03:48] <ebogart> flannel -- can you offer any sound help beyond the info you requested for me?
[03:48] <Dysko> How do i get it to be an usable adapter like wlan0 or wifi0?
[03:48] <phaedrus44> what is a good non-kde-gnome  program i can use to burn mp3 to cd?
[03:48] <thanksjac1> so basically I'm tarring root without lost+found items?
[03:49] <Crescendo> I need to capture video of my Ubuntu Desktop - how would I go about this?
[03:49] <bruenig> thanksjac1, yep, you may also want to exclude /proc
[03:49] <xinming> is there a grphic interface for configuring network in ubuntu please?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> phaedrus44: non-gnome non-kde... what os are you running?
[03:49] <thanksjac1> super
[03:49] <Rya1> could anyone help walk me through resizing my harddrive and installing ubuntu with the ubuntu installer
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: yes
[03:49] <tj_> does anyone know a way to get dri running on an intel integrated processor?
[03:49] <Rya1> cool
[03:49] <bruenig> Rya1, the graphical install is a headache but one can try
[03:49] <dave038> trying to install doom 3 whats the command?
[03:49] <Rya1> can u help im soo new to linux
[03:49] <thanksjac1> --exclude=/lost+found<what seperator>/proc ?
[03:49] <random_hero> just got a succesful install (server) done...  upon reboot, it goes through the bios.  grub loads, it loads the kernel and initrd, then auto reboots
[03:50] <Rya1> just pm me if anyone feels like it!
[03:50] <bruenig> Rya1, what does your partition table look like right now and what do you want it to look like?
[03:50] <random_hero> just goes in an endless cycle of that
[03:50] <dave038> i downloaded the latest install
[03:50] <random_hero> tried acpi=off on the kernel line in grub, to no avail..
[03:50] <vicscandl> night all
[03:51] <dion> Is quake or doom or any of the such available free on the net?
[03:51] <Rya1> i have ntfs 74.68 on a 80gig with only 20.7 taken up and i wanna put ubuntu with 40gigs and resize the xp or only allow 40
[03:51] <dion> for linux of course
[03:51] <Rya1> no dion
[03:51] <Dysko> just used ndiswrapper - l, and the gear is there.  Can't get a wlan0 or wifi0 adapter though.  What am I missing?
[03:51] <dave038> brunig how do you set up doom3?
[03:51] <random_hero> wow...  this is a madhouse...
[03:51] <thanksjac1> What is root's default password?
[03:51] <Rya1> u need windows cd key for linux doom3 or quake4 linux
[03:51] <jrib> !root > thanksjac1
[03:51] <bruenig> thanksjac1, there is no default root password
[03:51] <random_hero> sudo passwd root
[03:51] <random_hero> ^set it yourself
[03:51] <phaedrus44> Jack_Sparrow:  my guess would be ubuntu
[03:51] <dave038> Ryal it doesnt do anything when i type in the commands it said in readme
[03:51] <dave038> :|
[03:52] <thanksjac1> I dont like sudo
[03:52] <dave038> what is the command?
[03:52] <bruenig> Rya1, ok are you in the live cd?
[03:52] <dion> ahh
[03:52] <Rya1> yes!
[03:52] <bruenig> thanksjac1, sudo su
[03:52] <random_hero> right, which is why you'll use it one last time
[03:52] <dion> thanks for the answer.
[03:52] <dave038> doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run ??
[03:52] <thanksjac1> I always end up doing a whole bunch on root anyway so sudo just slows me down
[03:52] <bruenig> Rya1, ok go to System>Administration>Gnome partition editor
[03:52] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> anyone know how to uninstall pcmcia-utils??? apt-get will not work
[03:52] <jrib> please just let people read the page about the pros and cons of sudo vs. root
[03:52] <Rya1> there
[03:52] <bruenig> Rya1, ok right click on the windows partition and resize it down
[03:52] <Rya1> ok tehre
[03:53] <Rya1> it says
[03:53] <random_hero> so i'm in this endless reboot cycle....  after it loads the kernel/initrd.....
[03:53] <Rya1> im gonna pm u
[03:53] <Dysko> after I use ndiswrapper, how do I get an actual adapter mounted?
[03:53] <dave038> anybody?? :|
[03:53] <cloakable> jwl007|ubu_n00b: try sudo dpkg -r pcmcia-tools
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys what happened to the Loki installers.. did they go commercial?
[03:53] <Dysko> .....
[03:53] <thanksjac1> any way to get linux to write to ntfs?
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> dave038, is that from the installer disc?
[03:53] <jrib> !ntfs
[03:54] <ebogart> !root > ebogart
[03:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:54] <jrib> !fuse > thanksjac1
[03:54] <bruenig> Rya1, no pm has been receieved, you do have to register if you want to pm, if you haven't
[03:54] <random_hero> any ideas on my endless reboot?  acpi=off didn't help
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> dave038, try sudo ./doom....run
[03:54] <Rya1> oh
[03:54] <Rya1> dammit
[03:54] <Rya1> well it says
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: Not advised
[03:55] <Rya1> minimum size and maximum size being 76317-24751
[03:55] <Rya1> then it says
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> thanksjac1: Read all you want no problem.. dont write..
[03:55] <bruenig> Rya1, pretty easy, I think to register you do /msg Nickserv password replace your password though
[03:55] <Dysko> I am the invisible man
[03:55] <dave038> dave@dave-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo run ./doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86
[03:55] <Rya1> new size 76309 and free space following 8mb
[03:55] <dave038> didnt work
[03:55] <dave038> :|
[03:55] <JoaoJoao> hello again
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> random_hero: Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off acpi = no (Solves no mouse problem) pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[03:56] <bruenig> Rya1, it is pretty intuitive just resize it using the arrows on the disk space parts
[03:56] <dion> I installed Edubuntu rather then the regular ubuntu, how would I go about changing it without a reinstall?
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> dave038, then try sudo chmod +x doom...run
[03:56] <random_hero> will give that a shot..  don't need mouse anyways though
[03:56] <phaedrus44> what is a good non-kde-gnome  program i can use to burn mp3 to cd?
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> adding your file there
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> dion: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:56] <phaedrus44> other than command line
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> dave038, then try that line again
[03:56] <Rya1> wow
[03:56] <captainjeje> hi everyone what about xgl and athlon XP 64b ? i can't find compiz-core
[03:56] <Rya1> i get it now!
[03:56] <dion> awesome, thanks for the info
[03:56] <Rya1> thx so much godbless u
[03:57] <nol13> hi, how do i manually specify what driver my wireless card uses? do i have to add an alias somewhere
[03:57] <TokenBad> ok can someone help with this...I can cut and paste files on a drive...using klibido to download to the drive and it saved the files...but I can't make dirs or anything like that...says read only system
[03:57] <dave038> dave@dave-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo chmod +x doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86
[03:57] <dave038> chmod: cannot access `doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86': No such file or directory
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> phaedrus44: Non-kde  Non-Gnome Non-command line... What are you running?
[03:57] <exs> Hello.. I'm trying to install Ktorrent, and I'm getting "Error: dependency is not satisfiable: kdelibs4"
[03:57] <Dysko> Anyone know anything about ndiswrapper
[03:57] <TokenBad> phaedrus44!!!!!
[03:57] <bruenig> !ndiswrapper
[03:57] <dave038> didnt work :|
[03:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:57] <TokenBad> hows going man
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> dave038, make sure you are in the folder and add that .run to the end... complete filename is important
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> dion: go to options in the login window
[03:57] <dion> ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.       ????
[03:57] <dave038> its on my desktop
[03:58] <Dysko> bruenig: can I grab you for a quick bit of advice?
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> dave038, hitting the "tab" key will autocomplete the filename
[03:58] <dave038> just the updated installer
[03:58] <bruenig> dion, edubuntu's only difference is that it has some additional eductional software I believe
[03:58] <nol13> Dysko, whats the prob, i may be able to help
[03:58] <Mnabil> !gcc
[03:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:58] <bruenig> Dysko, I don't know anything about ndiswrapper, was just trying to see what ubotu had for you
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> dave038, but if you look at permissions... i'll bet its not set to execute
[03:58] <eetfunk> what are the mysql 5 server and dev package names?  is there a way to find out by myself next time?
[03:58] <dion> I know I was more so just interested in changing the boot up logo and genome loading screen
[03:59] <Dysko> is there a better channel to ask about ndiswrapper in?
[03:59] <DrZeus> hi all.  Just wondering, has anybody managed to get the XFCE-like login splash?
[03:59] <captainjeje> !compiz
[03:59] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:59] <Mnabil> eetfunk, apt-cache search mysql !!!!
[03:59] <dave038> not working
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> Dysko, this one is good
[03:59] <dave038> nomasteryoda how do i set the permissions?
[03:59] <bruenig> dion, you could try to uninstall everything you have and then do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in the command prompt but that is only in theory not sure if it would work
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> dave038, post a listing of the files on the desktop
[03:59] <dave038> i did the sudo
[03:59] <nol13> Dysko, whats the prob
[03:59] <DrZeus> hi all.  Just wondering, has anybody managed to get the XFCE-like login splash?
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> i told you dave038
[03:59] <Dysko> can you help then?  no one else seems to be able to
[03:59] <dave038> nomasteryoda how??
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> sudo chmod +x filename
[03:59] <StevenX> what package manager does ubuntu use?
[03:59] <dave038> PM me?
[03:59] <StevenX> apt-get?
[03:59] <DrZeus> synaptics?
[03:59] <cloakable> APT
[04:00] <Mnabil> StevenX, yea
[04:00] <wasabi> Ubuntu uses DPKG
[04:00] <wasabi> As the package manager.
[04:00] <DrZeus> !xubuntu
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> dion: See if you cant change it where you enter your user id... options at the bottom of the page
[04:00] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:00] <dion> It sounds rather risky, but valid
[04:00] <dave038> sudo chmod +x doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[04:00] <DrZeus> !ubuntu
[04:00] <dave038>  shows upo to next line with nothing
[04:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:00] <StevenX> thanks cloakable, Mnabil, and wasabi
[04:00] <phaedrus44> Jack_Sparrow:  ubuntu with fluxbox..
[04:00] <DrZeus> !splash
[04:00] <phaedrus44> i stripped it down so no gnome or kde libs and i want to keep it that way...   cdxroast - is that a program?
[04:00] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[04:00] <phaedrus44> i need to be able to burn mp3 to audio cd
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> dion: From there I can select kde gnome or ice
[04:00] <DrZeus> !usplash
[04:00] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:00] <phaedrus44> hey TokenBad:  wussup
[04:01] <DrZeus> hello?
[04:01] <twiggz> hi, need help with my sound if anyones active.
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> phaedrus44: You are really limiting your options, everyone here uses term, kde or gnome
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> dave038, it will not show a change
[04:01] <phaedrus44> TokenBad:  i need yer help bad!!    (of course)
[04:01] <exs> anyone know the program which forces KDE apps to utilize GTK(c) interface?
[04:02] <dave038> wait its working
[04:02] <twiggz> qt-gtk-engine, exs
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> dave038, try to run it as sudo again... but this time do sh doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:02] <phaedrus44> no worries Jack_Sparrow:  ill just keep using  nerolinux
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> good
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> luck
[04:02] <StevenX> Can i burn the ubuntu .iso to a dvd and have it work fine?
[04:02] <dave038> says something about install location /usr/local/games
[04:02] <w30> phaedrus44, check out Serpentine
[04:02] <DrZeus> nobody knows nothing about the XFCE splash, the one with the mouse running, and how to get that in gnome???
[04:02] <dave038> i need to create that? maybe put installer file there?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX: cd.iso to dvd.iso... no
[04:02] <DrZeus> nobody knows nothing about the XFCE splash, the one with the mouse running, and how to get that in gnome???
[04:03] <StevenX> Jack_Sparrow: thanks.
[04:03] <eetfunk> anyone knows how to gget mysql_config?  it's not installed by apt-get
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:03] <Dysko> nol13:  I have used ndiswrapper to add my Windows Wifi Adapter driver, which seems to have all gone to plan.  I don't seem to have a wlan0, wifi0 or ath0 to setup though.  Have I missed something?
[04:03] <StevenX> that sucks i only have dvdrs. no cdrs.
[04:03] <exs> twiggz:  Wonderful.. How can I install this? .. it doesn't appear to be in the repositories, normal or multiverse
[04:03] <DrZeus> so...nothing about XFCE splash?
[04:03] <twiggz> exs: compile it yourself.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX: At least they are only $0.08
[04:03] <twiggz> sudo apt-get build-essential
[04:03] <random_hero> still endless reboot :(
[04:04] <twiggz> and compile it yourself
[04:04] <exs> twiggz: I can't even find the file
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> random_hero: what were you doing before the problem? update?
[04:04] <random_hero> fresh install
[04:04] <twiggz> it may be gtk-qt-engine
[04:04] <SillyZ> greetings.....
[04:04] <twiggz> i may have had it backwards
[04:04] <twiggz> anyway
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> random_hero: Live worked fine..?
[04:04] <twiggz> anyone else have problems with ac_97 sound codec?
[04:04] <DrZeus> omG
[04:04] <SillyZ> whats the best method to install ubuntu on a laptop, with no cdrom drive??
[04:04] <random_hero> yup
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> random_hero: Or did you go for alt install
[04:04] <random_hero> had this issue with centos though
[04:05] <StevenX> twiggz: i have problems with my ac '97 sound card.
[04:05] <DrZeus> SillyZ: an external cdrom drive
[04:05] <StevenX> i play a file and everything sems fine
[04:05] <StevenX> but i don't hear a sound.
[04:05] <random_hero> live worked, but this was the server install
[04:05] <StevenX> ubuntu uses alsa?
[04:05] <SillyZ> DrZeus, parallel port cdrom drives wont boot
[04:05] <twiggz> StevenX, thats the problem we're having, StevenX.
[04:05] <twiggz> and yes, ubuntu uses alsa.
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> random_hero: Did you try the livecd install?
[04:05] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> Can someone please help (at least try) to get my wireless card working (pcmcia)
[04:05] <random_hero> yeah, it worked
[04:05] <StevenX> twiggz: I was using another distro (kanotix). didn't work.
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Has anyone seen iceman... did I miss him??
[04:05] <StevenX> i couldn't figure it out.
[04:05] <iceman24k> ok, well try the Optiplex and the NVidia drivers :(
[04:06] <random_hero> then i reinstalled with the server disc
[04:06] <DrZeus> SillyZ: oh...
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> I told him I would wait..  he was just going to test the livecd
[04:06] <exs> twiggz:  I found it.. it's called gtk-qt-engine instead
[04:06] <surgy> hello
[04:06] <surgy> can k3b burn vcd?
[04:06] <SillyZ> DrZeus, USB Drives wont boot either, as drivers have to be loaded before the drive is recognized
[04:06] <twiggz> yes, surgy.
[04:06] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow   that f6 option got noplace. tired of fighting that compaq
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Icemansorry dude, we tried..
[04:06] <random_hero> this is an old box..  amd-k62
[04:06] <twiggz> cool, exs.
[04:06] <SillyZ> Any other method for getting Ubuntu on this laptop?
[04:07] <surgy> twiggz: is there anything i need to do special to make it play on my dvd player?
[04:07] <DrZeus> SillyZ: how about finding a ZIP drive and try slax?
[04:07] <SillyZ> slax?
[04:07] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow same type issue will maybe arise here, but I have had better luck with dell's and the Nvidia driver
[04:07] <SillyZ> ?slax
[04:07] <SillyZ> !slax
[04:07] <StevenX> surgy: does your dvd player support playing vcds? some do some don't.
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <twiggz> surgy, yea, make sure your dvd player supports vcds.
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: If I can do anything to help I will try..
[04:07] <SillyZ> Ok DrZeus whats slax
[04:07] <surgy> stevenx: how do i tell if it does?
[04:07] <nol13> Dysko: ok i dunno, im kinda having the same problem i think, had ndiswrapper set up, everything was working great, then i upgraded to dapper.....     after that the ACX driver is being used instead of ndiswrapper, and when i rmmod ACX and setup ndiswrapper it all looks good but then iwconfig cant find wlan0 until i modprobe ACX again, and the ACX driver sux. ive been getting pretty piussed, asked here a bunch , searched the web, no answer, bout
[04:07] <nol13>  to go back to debian until ubuntu works this shit out or tells me how to fix it
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cya tomorrow all..
[04:07] <DrZeus> SillyZ: is a distro that fits on ZIP disks
[04:07] <StevenX> surgy: put one in.
[04:07] <DrZeus> is from slackware
[04:07] <StevenX> surgy: if it plays you are good to go.
[04:08] <bsdfox> SillyZ, I can't believe nobody has suggested this, but pull the drive outta the laptop and install on it, then just stick it back in
[04:08] <phaedrus44> w30 thanks...will do
[04:08] <surgy> stevenx: lol thats some good advice
[04:08] <surgy> twiggz: thnx for the help
[04:08] <StevenX> surgy: sorry man. only thing i know that will work .
[04:08] <random_hero> anybody else got any ideas on my 'endless reboot'?
[04:08] <bsdfox> SillyZ, I've done that on a handful of laptops and it's always worked
[04:08] <surgy> stevenx: thanks for the help
[04:08] <TokenBad> phaedrus44, whats up
[04:08] <StevenX> surgy: no problem
[04:08] <nol13> Dysko:  so sorry no help from me, though it might be a simple problem
[04:08] <TokenBad> msg me on here or on the other server
[04:08] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow i'll try the Install method first, see if it will work, this live / install dvd may cause issues, installing as we speek, which is always nice.
[04:08] <SillyZ> bsdfox, its what Ive done before but I would like to do a native install on the machine without having to move the harddrive to a regular sized PC, then moving it back
[04:08] <ookami> i need some help. TVTIME is saying it cant load tvtime.xml (permission denied)
[04:09] <DrZeus> SillyZ: that's a good one too
[04:09] <bsdfox> SillyZ, you'd save time just pulling the drive :P
[04:09] <DrZeus> if you have another laptop for installing, go ahead
[04:09] <StevenX> twiggz: so your sound card is not working? sucks man. I was gonna switch to ubuntu just so my soundcard can work.
[04:09] <SillyZ> DrZeus, ya 2.5 to 3.5inch converter (powered), install in regular PC on IDE0/0 and goto town on the installation
[04:09] <Homer> does using ubuntu christain edition ensure salvation?
[04:10] <w30> Homer, yes
[04:10] <DrZeus> Homer: wth
[04:10] <SillyZ> Its prolly what ill end up doing but wanted to see if there were any other options available to do a native installation on the laptop vs the desktop
[04:10] <random_hero> hmm..  maybe passing "load_now_fucker=or_i_will_toss_you_off_the_balcony" will work....
[04:10] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow will finish the install then reboot, see how it goes :(
[04:10] <StevenX> Homer: w30 is wrong. you hvae to use calvanist edition.
[04:10] <StevenX> which means you are either saved or not.
[04:10] <StevenX> sorry man.
[04:10] <StevenX> nothing you can do.
[04:10] <phaedrus44> w30:  serpentine = gnome libs
[04:10] <Homer> :(
[04:10] <phaedrus44> : (
[04:11] <iceman24k> Homer define salvation
[04:11] <ebogart> back with a clarification.  beep media player can output using the esound plugin, but cannot find a soundcard for alsa or oss plugins.
[04:11] <DrZeus> Homer: wrong again.  Receive Jesus in your heart, and regret all your bad steps; then it'll do it
[04:11] <SillyZ> ok thanks yall, looks like ill be pulling the hard drive out and installing it the hard way
[04:11] <DrZeus> SillyZ: seems to be that is the only thing left
[04:11] <twiggz> this is really garbage, sound wont work on an everyday damn dell?
[04:11] <reitzell> can anyone read this file? -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
[04:11] <wasabi> ebogart, Probably because your sound card doesn't support mixing, and esd is running.
[04:11] <DrZeus> btw, no news about someone trying to get the XFCE-style splash?
[04:12] <twiggz> its a dell dimension 8400
[04:12] <DrZeus> for Gnome?
[04:12] <ebogart> wasabi so disable mixing?
[04:12] <SillyZ> aye, unfortunatly my 2.5 -> 3.5 converter has a busted power cable so gotta fix that first then do the installation
[04:12] <Homer> I'm going to use the holy operating system
[04:12] <wasabi> ebogart, no, use esd, or disable esd.
[04:12] <SillyZ> Homer, holey? oh you mean Winblows
[04:12] <SillyZ> :D
[04:12] <Homer> lol
[04:13] <ebogart> wasabi i'm trying it out now thanks
[04:13] <SillyZ> thanks again yall, hopefully ill be back on the laptop w/ ubuntu
[04:13] <Homer> Well you know I'm glad
[04:13] <Homer> The goal of Ubuntu Christian Edition is to bring the power and security of Ubuntu to Christians.
[04:13] <DrZeus> btw, no news about someone trying to get the XFCE-style splash? Im gonna cry...
[04:13] <Homer> It's about time Christains had access to Ubuntu, in my opinion
[04:13] <poningru> yarr
[04:14] <twiggz> jesus christ this channel is impossible to get help in.
[04:14] <wasabi> I'm not sure how a collection of a few bible readers and maybe a new desktop pattern makes Ubuntu any more "accessible"
[04:14] <twiggz> is anyone else noticing that?
[04:14] <wasabi> But enjoy. :)
[04:14] <StevenX> twiggz: try running sudo alsamixer
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> twiggz: most of us have gone to bed.. try in the morning,,,.
[04:14] <StevenX> and make sure nothing is muted.
[04:14] <DrZeus> Homer: well...actually it was for compiling software for christian objectives, like gnomesword for reading the bible and other stuff
[04:14] <twiggz> StevenX, already done so.
[04:14] <Homer> twiggz, what problem are you having?
[04:15] <Homer> oh
[04:15] <smoked1> how come when I uninstall something it does not remove the dependancies as well?
[04:15] <DrZeus> twiggz: i agree w/ that
[04:15] <random_hero> wow...  it's like this box just wasn't meant to have linux on it...
[04:15] <[Laptop] Meglo> whats wrong random_hero ?
[04:15] <twiggz> Homer, i have a dell dimension 8400 that i cannot get sound working on.
[04:15] <TeePOG> random_hero: try PC-BSD
[04:15] <twiggz> the files play, but no sound whatsoever.
[04:15] <random_hero> auto reboot after it loads the kernel
[04:15] <twiggz> and no, alsamixer is not muted
[04:15] <Homer> happened to me on my laptop too
[04:15] <random_hero> *after grub loads the kernel
[04:15] <Homer> is your soundcard detected?
[04:15] <twiggz> yes
[04:16] <Znuff> Hello. Is there an oficial walktrough for installing Ubuntu over the net? Netinstall?
[04:16] <Mnabil> sorry , how can i lock my screen in ubuntu ?
[04:16] <Homer> what card
[04:16] <Homer> ATI IXP?
[04:16] <w30> Homer, that's great! open source gas the power to do that, If some one wants an Islamic edition thats ok too.
[04:16] <w30> gas/has
[04:16] <DrZeus> twiggz: did you tried alsamixer in the terminal, to see if the volume is mute by default?
[04:16] <bruenig> Mnabil, System>Quit>Lock Screen
[04:17] <twiggz> DrZeus, i installed a frontend called gamix.
[04:17] <Homer> w30, sudo apt-get install gnomebible
[04:17] <twiggz> same difference
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> twiggz: Meet people half way, look up the chipset for your sound card...
[04:17] <twiggz> nothings muted
[04:17] <StevenX> twiggz: try maybe seeing if the card is being recognized: cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:17] <Mnabil> bruenig, there's no lock screen tab
[04:17] <DrZeus> weird
[04:18] <bruenig> w30, you should install the ubuntu christian edition, that is such a great project, you will love it. Not only will you get your religious fix but ubuntu logo now has crosses and stuff on it.
[04:18] <ebogart> wasabi -- still having trouble with esd disabled
[04:18] <bruenig> Mnabil, should be
[04:18] <StevenX> twiggz: still there/
[04:18] <wasabi> ebogart, You have killed the esound process?
[04:18] <wasabi> err, 'esd'
[04:19] <ebogart> wasabi i did not.  doing that now
[04:19] <ebogart> pardon the n00b :)
[04:19] <scud_> I installed ubuntu server on a computer of mine and it worked great then i took that same hard drive and placed it in another older computer. now grub will load and it display it everything and it will get to 'boot' then the machine will reboot. any idea on what i could do to see why this is happening?
[04:19] <ebogart> wasabi ok it is killed
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> DrZeus: Do you have gnomesword working in Ubuntu
[04:20] <random_hero> scud_:  i'm having the exact same problem
[04:20] <random_hero> well, this is the original install box, but still...
[04:20] <DrZeus> Jack_Sparrow: I just installed a couple of minutes ago
[04:20] <Znuff> Is there any possible way to "upgrade" from debian to ubuntu?
[04:20] <DrZeus> Jack_Sparrow: the OS, so no gnomesword yet
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> What all did you need to do to get it going
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[04:20] <bruenig> Znuff, no
[04:21] <DrZeus> i use regular ubuntu, not the christian one
[04:21] <bruenig> well I am sure it is possible. but probably not advised
[04:21] <random_hero> scud_:  what have you tried so far?
[04:21] <Znuff> And when is a net-install planned for ubuntu? =/
[04:21] <StevenX> that would be great. net-install.
[04:22] <Znuff> I'm currently set in the position that I don't have an optical drive on a box, no network other than the internet, and I'm able to boot only from FDDs and USB pen drives
[04:22] <bruenig> christian ubuntu is consistent with the concept of community, so long as everyone in the community is christian of course then there is no problem
[04:22] <DrZeus> how is ndiswrapper called in the repo's?
[04:22] <bruenig> !info ndiswrapper
[04:22] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in any distro I know
[04:22] <Znuff> "christian" ubuntu?!?
[04:22] <bruenig> !info ndiswrapper-gtk
[04:22] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-gtk does not exist in any distro I know
[04:22] <ebogart> wasabi no dice on the audio.  killed esd process, but alsa and oss still don't recognize the card
[04:22] <DrZeus> it was! it was in breezy, in the repos!
[04:23] <StevenX> ebogart: run cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:23] <bruenig> !info ndisgtk
[04:23] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[04:23] <bruenig> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[04:23] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[04:23] <ebogart> stevenx did that.  card is recognized (C-Media PCI CMI8738-SWIEC (model 33) at 0xe800, irq 169)
[04:23] <DrZeus> omG, what is happening? how it is installed ndiswrapper with the repo's then?
[04:24] <exs> I'm having programs.. I'm trying to install a stable version of ktorrent (latest) via a deb on their site and I'm recieving this error "(reading database .. 110614 files and directories currently installed.)
[04:24] <exs> unpacking utorrent-2.0(from /tmp/ktorrent02.0-i386.deb) ...
[04:24] <exs> dpkg: error processing /tmp/ktorrent-2.0i386.deb (--install):
[04:24] <exs>  trying to overwrite 'usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data"
[04:24] <bruenig> DrZeus, do sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[04:24] <exs> ops.. sorry about that
[04:24] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> im pulling my hair out trying to get wireless to work
[04:24] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> :(
[04:24] <ebogart> stevenx don't know if you saw, but i can get audio, but it is inconsistent.  nothing from java, or from two of the 3 output plugins in beep
[04:24] <DrZeus> !ndisgtk
[04:24] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[04:24] <StevenX> have you tried playing an .ogg ?
[04:24] <random_hero> wow...  this is so fucking frustrating...  install goes beautiful, but won't boot afterwards....
[04:25] <DrZeus> bruenig: package not found
[04:25] <bruenig> exs, that is a bad strategy. If you are going to intentionally not follow the rules, you should do it and then act like you didn't know the rules existed. Just a strategy tip for you
[04:25] <ebogart> stevenx no, but i have mp3s working on the one driver
[04:25] <DBO> random_hero, less on the swearing please
[04:25] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  it's really easy, install ndisgtk, then find the right driver (possible on your drivers cd).. it'll be .sys and .inf
[04:25] <bruenig> DrZeus, do you have universe enabled
[04:25] <bruenig> DrZeus, if not https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[04:25] <StevenX> ebogart: weird. dunno what else to offer.
[04:25] <random_hero> less on the rebooting of this junk box
[04:25] <exs> bruenig:  Had no idea it was going to do multi-line.
[04:25] <StevenX> !gnucash
[04:25] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.12-6ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1288 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[04:25] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, i wish it was that easy :)
[04:25] <ebogart> stevenx i appreciate the help.  i'm half-tempted to do a fresh install if it weren't such a pain
[04:26] <StevenX> ebogart: no problem. good luck.
[04:26] <yome> Hi.  Anybody knows how to install arch/tla under ubuntu?
[04:26] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  it is that easy.
[04:26] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, not it is not :P
[04:26] <yome> I'm being told another package refer to it, but that it can't be found.
[04:26] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, the driver that came with my wireless card did not work (XP/2000, et. all)
[04:26] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  you have a terrible wireless card then, I have a broadcom, and they are known to be the worst.
[04:26] <TokenBad> phaedrus44, you going msg me?
[04:27] <bruenig> yome, what is arch/tla
[04:27] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  then use the ubuntu wiki to find other people with your hardware
[04:27] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, it is a rebranded gemtek card (gateway wbm-120)
[04:27] <yome> bruenig: a source control system, similar to cvs, svn or darcs
[04:27] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  yes, i have a gatway laptop.
[04:27] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> supposedly it has the hermes, orinoco_cs chipset
[04:27] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, what gateway?
[04:27] <exs> mx3220b
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jwl007|ubu_n00b: that has broadcom chipset I think
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[04:28] <DrZeus> bruenig: I hadnt activated the universe's
[04:28] <DrZeus> hehehe...sorry
[04:28] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> Jack_Sparrow, I'll give that a try I guess
[04:28] <exs> it is like many other laptops with different names within gatway, but different code name for updated hardware components, such as keyboard and screen
[04:28] <bruenig> DrZeus, ok do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"
[04:28] <scud_> did anyone answer my question before my son closed my xchat window? :P :X
[04:28] <random_hero> scud_ no they didn't
[04:29] <random_hero> i'm having the same issue
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> scud_: Yes, sorry you missed it...
[04:29] <stuart_> help: i can only boot my computer from the live Cd
[04:29] <DrZeus> ok
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> scud_: Just kidding of course..
[04:29] <random_hero> anyhow, what have you tried so far
[04:29] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, did you have any issues for the video res not getting above 800x600?
[04:29] <scud_> heh
[04:29] <audimage> hello
[04:29] <necrotux> nas
[04:29] <w30> I need a file called /lib/modules/build
[04:29] <stuart_> ive tried a bunch of the commands in the forumns
[04:29] <scud_> i was wondering if there was any debug parameter i could pass to see what its erroring on?
[04:29] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  Yeah.. you can follow a tutorial for that, also on the ubuntu wiki.. I'll get it for you
[04:30] <stuart_> i get grub error 17 on startup
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> jwl007|ubu_n00b: sounds like you are running vesa mode
[04:30] <scud_> its an older 133mhz machine, its going to become my file server if i get ubuntu working on it
[04:30] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> Jack_Sparrow, no its an intel i810 chipset
[04:30] <DrZeus> bruenig: btw, have you heard and/or seen anything related to trying to set an animation as the splash screen(like Xubuntu) after the login? this in gnome of course
[04:30] <audimage> can anybody help me install wine v0.9.20 from a .deb file?
[04:30] <random_hero> scud_ what options have you tried passing to the kernel so far?
[04:30] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> video bios is borked on my laptop
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> jwl007|ubu_n00b: But what does your xorg show?
[04:30] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[04:30] <flaco> how can I check the version of GTK installed?
[04:30] <scud_> my next step is to reinstall from cd. i just didnt install it on that machine b/c i installed it on a faster machine but same hard drive
[04:30] <scud_> random_hero: none
[04:30] <stuart_> Ubuntu looks like a really cool dist but i cant get it working right
[04:31] <scud_> i'm using lvm for my /root and /boot is a regular partition
[04:31] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, if this works.. can i have your baby?
[04:31] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> :P
[04:31] <bruenig> DrZeus, no, ask it to the channel, you might get more of a response
[04:31] <random_hero> scud_:  i've been fighting this all evening here...  i can't get crap out of it
[04:31] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  it's easy, you just need to find this stuff.. wiki is very helpful, as is the forums.
[04:31] <random_hero> (i used the word crap so people don't complain)
[04:31] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  Do you have sound yet?
[04:32] <surgy> whats a good avi to mpeg1 converter?
[04:32] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, yes, that worked out of the box
[04:32] <[Laptop] Meglo> Guys how do I conduct liver surgery on my cat with linux? Plz help.
[04:32] <ebogart> exs i don't have sound... completely :)
[04:32] <random_hero> scud_ my next step is booting with a gentoo disc and doing a grub-install
[04:32] <Homer> [Laptop] Meglo, sudo apt-get install gsurgery
[04:32] <random_hero> will see how that goes
[04:32] <scud_> same here
[04:32] <exs> ebogart:  probably muted... if not you just need to go into the sound thingy.. forgot it's name now, haha.
[04:32] <w30> random_hero, short for  British inventor developer Thomas Crapper
[04:32] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> what package is svn part of?
[04:33] <[Laptop] Meglo> lawl homer
[04:33] <random_hero> thought that was ryan dunn...
[04:33] <whyameye_> jwl007|ubu_n00b: isn't it subversion?
[04:33] <audimage> would somebody please help me install wine v 0.9.20 from a .deb file? i am new to ubuntu (and linux in general) and don't know the commands
[04:33] <ebogart> exs haha.  i can get some media players to work, and others claim there's no sound card!  java being a particular offender
[04:33] <random_hero> hell, i don't remember
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[04:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:33] <surgy> meglo: ok let me walk you through that, open your  computer case pull out your hardrive containing your lin partition and vigourosly but precisely drag the corner across your cats abdomen, it also double as anetesia, and then look in your medicle manual for the following steps: liver removal: blunt object stress
[04:34] <random_hero> ...now what'd i do with that old gentoo disc.....
[04:34] <whyameye_> audimage: sudo dpkg -i <winefile>.deb
[04:34] <surgy> anyone know a good avi to mpeg1 converter?
[04:34] <w30> audimage, Synaptic has a wine application, Would that work or do you need a special version?
[04:34] <stuart_> whats the best way to install grub
[04:34] <exs> ebogart:  go into  System > places > multimedia systems selector and check out that
[04:34] <audimage> i know what wine is, the problem is that i am installing it on a computer with no internet connection, ie i have to install it from a file instead of from the net
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> WIne is best from the repos.. but I still refuse to use it
[04:34] <DrZeus> ok, again...Has ANYBODY heard and/or seen anything about having an animation in the splash screen(in gnome), just after entering the user and pass, like xubuntu?
[04:34] <exs>  ebogart:  go into  System > prefrences > multimedia systems selector
[04:35] <random_hero> stuart_:  boot with a live disc (i know gentoo works) mount /boot and run 'grub-install'
[04:35] <exs> (ignore first one)
[04:35] <audimage> no, i don't need a particular version, but i didn't know that synaptic had an emulation feature
[04:35] <surgy> anyone know a good avi to mpeg1 converter?
[04:35] <ebogart> exs i don't actually have multimedia systems selector there.  only 'sound'
[04:35] <exs> ebogart:  then go into synaptic and try and search for it
[04:35] <stuart_> when you say "mount /boot" i just type that in the terminal?
[04:36] <ebogart> exs thanks
[04:36] <audimage> basically, i need to know the terminal commands to install a .deb file...
[04:36] <stuart_> im on the live CD now
[04:36] <audimage> ok
[04:36] <exs> ebogart:  perhaps you're not using ubuntu 6.06?..
[04:36] <DrZeus> omG, im going to faint here.  No one knows anything about the Xubuntu splash and how to get it done in Gnome then?(at least say a plain 'no' if you dont)
[04:36] <whyameye_> surgy: probably mencoder?
[04:36] <random_hero> wow, this is awesome....  gentoo disc auto-reboots too
[04:36] <surgy> whyameye: "probably" is kindof scary
[04:36] <w30> audimage, Have you got a Ubuntu live cd, borrow a internet connected computer and download it to a  removeable disk.
[04:36] <thedash> my friend just made a 75GB .png file.....
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> DrZeus: 849 people saying NO is not a good idea
[04:36] <random_hero> stuart_: no
[04:36] <ebogart> exs am on 6.06.  just installed on friday
[04:37] <whyameye_> surgy: I'm giving you something to check.  I don't know mpeg1 but I make mpgs for DVDs using tovid and it uses mencoder. I gave you a lead. be happy.
[04:37] <DrZeus> Jack_Sparrow: At least im ABSOLUTELY sure that no one knows; and will sleep with peace
[04:37] <audimage> i have a live cd, and i have the file, i don't know the commands
[04:37] <audimage> i guess im not communicating clearly
[04:37] <whyameye_> audimage: and I already sent you the command: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[04:37] <random_hero> scud_ don't think it's a grub issue....
[04:38] <audimage> oh, i didn't see thanks whyameye...trying now
[04:38] <Tonren> hey guys, resolvconf fails on bootup with this error:  run-parts: /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc exited with return code 1  what do I do?
[04:38] <DrZeus> besides those 849 plain 'no's, ill never be calmed
[04:38] <surgy> whyameye: yea yea im looking into it, problem is im trying to burn avi from my windows partition to a vcd using k3b any other hints?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> audimage: Let me get this right...You are running live and want to install wine?
[04:38] <compu73rg33k> anybody have a good console AIM program?
[04:38] <surgy> whyameye: mecoder isnt in the repos?
[04:38] <audimage> no, i have it installed
[04:38] <audimage> on my hdd
[04:38] <surgy> whyameye: mencoder*
[04:39] <whyameye_> surgy: that sounds perfect for tovid. run tovidgui. I'm assuming you can read your windows partition.
[04:39] <stuart_> i cant access my drives, it says theyre owned buy the user "root" and when i try to log in as root i dont know the pass. i assumed it was "root" like on PClinuxOS but that wasnt working
[04:39] <whyameye_> surgy: in linux..
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> audimage: And you dont want to use the suggested version of WIne from the repos...
[04:39] <alex222> How do i change the icons?
[04:39] <alex222> on ubuntu?
[04:39] <alex222> i downloaded an icon back
[04:39] <surgy> whyameye: im in linux now and can read my ntfs fine, is tovidgui defualt installed? or is it in repos?
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> alex222: theme manager
[04:39] <audimage> i can't because the comptuer i am adding it too has no internet connection
[04:39] <random_hero> screw it..  this guy doesn't need a linux box...  he can run a winders server or something... i'm tired of fucking with it
[04:40] <DrZeus> is it needed to get the J2SE from the java website, or is it in the repos?
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> alex222: Drag the tar and drop onto the theme manager
[04:40] <whyameye_> surgy: it's not default installed. It may not be in the repos either. I can't remember.
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> audimage: Did you pull wine from the repos or go outside the box?
[04:40] <DrZeus> how is it done to install J2SE? its in the repos?
[04:40] <w30> stuart_, Unbuntu doesn't need root, just stick sudo in front of all your commands and put in  you user password you logged in with the first time.
[04:41] <alex222> thanks works
[04:41] <surgy> whyameye: well its not in my repos for sure........
[04:41] <surgy> whyameye: lemme google
[04:41] <ebogart> exs no dice in synaptic
[04:41] <TiG4> Hi, how do i install fonts in linux, do i just place them in /usr/share/fonts
[04:41] <TiG4> ?
[04:41] <Flannel> !tell TiG4 about fonts
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I was told it was... I dont use it..
[04:41] <pinky_> So I'm installing Dapper 6.06.1 on a MacBook Pro, and it's done installing files, but now it's hung on "Install the elilo boot loader on a hard disk: Running ELILO for /dev/sda1" at 50% and it's not going anywhere.
[04:41] <audimage> i got it from the wine site, there is a section on there for older versions...the older versions aren't installed from the internet, they are files, the newest version is online
[04:41] <Tonren> hey guys, resolvconf fails on bootup with this error:  run-parts: /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc exited with return code 1  what do I do?
[04:41] <RideSn> ive got a question regarding eclipse in dapper
[04:42] <audimage> but i have to install it from online
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:42] <DrZeus> Jack_Sparrow: does the J2SE is in the repos, or i have to go to java website and download it
[04:42] <DrZeus> ?
[04:42] <audimage> can't download the file
[04:42] <Flannel> !tell DrZeus about java
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all... getting punchy
[04:42] <surgy> whyameye: this guy on ubuntu forums claims to have gotten it with apt-get but its not showing on my repos
[04:42] <RideSn> drZeus: i am getting a "cannot connect to vm" when debugging
[04:42] <DrZeus> Flannel: thnx
[04:43] <ben__> hey guys. How come I can't hear sound in firefox?
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> If iceman comes back, tell him I had to get some sleep
[04:43] <whyameye_> surgy: hold on I'll check...
[04:43] <RideSn> drzeus this problem exactly http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109600
[04:43] <surgy> whyameye: thnx
[04:43] <exs> ebogart:  dice?
[04:43] <DrZeus> RideSn: let me check
[04:43] <ben__> Anybody?
[04:43] <RideSn> drzeus: how do i resolve it with dapper (different version of java)
[04:44] <Flannel> whyameye_, surgy, tovidgui isn't in official repos, no.
[04:44] <drh> after I use apt-get to install something, how can I find out what exactly it installed?
[04:44] <TiG4> !fonts
[04:44] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[04:44] <ebogart> exs no luck
[04:44] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[04:44] <exs> ebogart:     *  (Double click on the Volume Control; File -> Change Device and/or System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Systems Selector).
[04:44] <surgy> flannel: where can i get it?
[04:44] <ben__> Anybody at all? I've been asking this for like four days....
[04:44] <ebogart> exs ok i can get there.  it shows up there
[04:44] <drh> specifically I want the filenames and the locations of the things it installed
[04:44] <whyameye_> surgy: it's not in the repos, or at least in my repo. I think I just installed from directions on their website. It's python code so no compiling. Not bad to install. Unfortunately I have to go, so I can't help you more. :-(
[04:44] <Flannel> surgy: no idea, never heard of it
[04:45] <surgy> whyami: ok thank you
[04:45] <exs> ebogart:  ok.. check it out.. should help you with your audio
[04:45] <audimage> are all serial modems suppored by ubuntu? i know that only some winmodems are...but from what i understand serial modems are all supported because they are hardware modems, is this correct?
[04:45] <ebogart> exs the real issue for me is that some applications recognize and can output audio, others cant
[04:45] <ben__> Anybody at all? I've been asking this for like four days....
[04:45] <surgy> look i found a wiki
[04:46] <Flannel> !tell ben__ about sound
[04:46] <ebogart> exs  thanks for your help though, i appreciate your time
[04:46] <whyameye_> surgy: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Installing_tovid
[04:46] <exs> thats fine
[04:46] <surgy> whyameye: thanks and kudos on the name:)
[04:47] <BlueEagle> audimage: A modem connected via a serial cable may still be a win-modem.
[04:47] <thebigdeadwaltz>  eek! i just lost networking (and less importantly, sound) in ubuntu
[04:47] <pinky_> So I'm installing Dapper 6.06.1 on a MacBook Pro, and it's done installing files, but now it's hung on "Install the elilo boot loader on a hard disk: Running ELILO for /dev/sda1" at 50% and it's not going anywhere.
[04:47] <ben__> Flannel: What?
[04:47] <Homer> winmodem = soundcard
[04:47] <audimage> i thought that all serial modems were hardware based, not software
[04:47] <BlueEagle> audimage: However that is just in theory. I've yet to hear of a winmodem that is not on a pci or similar card.
[04:48] <Flannel> ben__: check your query from ubotu
[04:48] <BlueEagle> audimage: Well simply the fact that it runs over a serial cable does not mean that it's 100% sure that it's not a winmodem.
[04:48] <cw2> BlueEagle, that would be a big fat "wrong".  now, a USB modem might still be a winmodem, but the main difference being a winmodem and a regulat modem is that a winmodem dosen't have a hardware UART.  a serial port is a hardware UART and thus "winmodem" no longer applies
[04:49] <BlueEagle> cw2: Well then I stand corrected.
[04:49] <audimage> thats what i thought, but i wasen't sure
[04:49] <ben__> Flannel: I can get sound from Totem and from Music Box, and SOMETIMES from Firefox, but not when totem or musicbox is open. And if they were open, I have to close all programs, and then reopen the browser to hear sound. It's not just No Sound all the time
[04:50] <BlueEagle> cw2: I was under the impression that a winmodem was any modem that made the processor do the signal modulation/demodulation instead of doing that in the hardware.
[04:50] <ookami> how do i  delete a hidden folder marked with an x? im trying to get rid of ".tvtime"
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> BlueEagle, you are correct
[04:50] <ookami> i tried sudo rm .tvtime (but that didnt work)
[04:51] <cw2> BlueEagle, that's true, but a serial interface wouldn't work for that
[04:51] <Flannel> ben__: what sorts of sounds? flash? or what?
[04:51] <ben__> Yes.
[04:51] <ben__> Youtube and all other flash or embedded video
[04:51] <Flannel> ben__: then you have a flash issue, not a firefox issue.  Which, is difficult in the current version of flash.
[04:51] <ookami> I also tried sudo rm -r .tvtime (that didnt report any error.... but its still there) odd....
[04:51] <alex222> whats the chmod values to give perms to myself?
[04:51] <w30> ookami, rm -Rf .tvtime
[04:51] <cw2> now for my stumper... I upgraded 2 pc's to dapper, and now when I print to a cups server (first brezzy, now dapper as well, clean install and reconfig by hand) I get a page with some codes and a "NETER LANUAGE=PCL3GUI".. local printing is fine
[04:51] <alex222> i want to open a bin file i downloaded
[04:51] <ben__> If any other program uses sound, I have to close it, and reopen firefox, and THEN I get sound
[04:52] <BlueEagle> cw2: because a serial interface is digital I persume?
[04:52] <ben__> Is it a driver sharing error? or just a weirdass bug in Ubuntu?
[04:52] <audimage> analog
[04:52] <cw2> BlueEagle, serial is analog
[04:52] <jrib> !flash > ben__
[04:52] <ookami> w30 its still there... ! even after doing that command :(
[04:52] <DrZeus> is netbeans good for ubuntu? its an odd question, but wanted to know if anyone uses it
[04:52] <cw2> any idea what might have drasticaly changed between breezy and dapper for the cups as a client to no longer work right?
[04:53] <BlueEagle> cw2: Then I don't see how you can't have a modem put the incoming phone signal to the processor and have the processor demodulate the signal.
[04:53] <RideSn> drzeus: not sure myself
[04:53] <ookami> nautilus still sees a .tvtime folder...
[04:53] <audimage> im not sure either, that is why i asked
[04:53] <iceman24k> !nvidia
[04:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:53] <BlueEagle> cw2: Now, I might miss something extremely obvious here. Perhaps the uart that controls the seiral port won't allow the processor to read the analog signal.
[04:53] <alex222> whats the command to chmod a bin file?
[04:54] <Flannel> ben__: it has to do with flash not being compilable, so we're stuck trying to bodge its sound usage into the rest,
[04:54] <ben__> Gentleman, I've already read those pages without luck.
[04:54] <cw2> BlueEagle, becasue you'd have to have a POTS to rs232 converter to send that signal, and a modem chip is much cheaper
[04:54] <ben__> Flannel: What do you mean? I didn't have this program with Warty Warthog... :s
[04:54] <BlueEagle> alex222: chmod u+x filename.bin
[04:54] <surgy> no F'IN deb package for ubuntu!!!!
[04:54] <CorpseFeeder> how come I have two sets of ubuntu & ubuntu recovery mode in my boot selection screen?
[04:55] <surgy> in mplayer btw
[04:55] <bruenig> CorpseFeeder, two different kernels
[04:55] <surgy> anyone know where i can get a deb of mplayer?
[04:55] <w30> ookami, double click on the .tvtime folder, sometimes nautilus won't refresh if you use the command line, If it's a ghost in nautilus it will say can't find the file or something like that
[04:55] <Flannel> ben__: Er, wait, which version are you running now?
[04:55] <jrib> ben__: you are using aoss?
[04:55] <BlueEagle> surgy: Are you unable to find mplayer in the repositories?
[04:55] <bruenig> surgy, the repos
[04:55] <cw2> surgy, multiverse
[04:55] <Tonren> hey guys, resolvconf fails on bootup with this error:  run-parts: /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc exited with return code 1  what do I do?
[04:55] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell surgy about easysource
[04:55] <ookami> w30, it says i dont have permission to view contents.
[04:55] <CorpseFeeder> bruenig: no, they are all the same kernel version
[04:55] <ben__> I'm on Breezy Badger I believe (newest desktop Gnome release)
[04:55] <Flannel> ben__: it's because flash still uses esd, but the rest of the OS has switched to more modern ones
[04:55] <ben__> I used Warty a long time ago.
[04:56] <surgy> umm when i apt-get install mplayer "E: no valid install candidate"
[04:56] <Flannel> ben__: Breezy?  Dapper is the most recent
[04:56] <Crescendo> I need to capture video of my Ubuntu Desktop - how would I go about this?
[04:56] <BlueEagle> cw2: So in theory it is possible even if it would be stupid?
[04:56] <Flannel> ben__: try "lsb_release -a" what version you using?
[04:56] <cw2> BlueEagle, i guess so, anything is possible
[04:56] <CorpseFeeder> but for some reason I have two sets of ubuntu and two sets of recovery mode for the same kernel.. what's up with that?
[04:56] <w30> does it show up in the xterminal?
[04:56] <DrZeus> im out amigos; Gby take care
[04:56] <bruenig> surgy you need to enable multiverse
[04:56] <cw2> but it wouldn't work out very well
[04:56] <BlueEagle> cw2: ...and since when did managers telling the engineers what to build have to be smart? :)
[04:56] <surgy> blueeagle: i have the multiverse and universe
[04:56] <ben__> 6.06
[04:56] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: different kernel versions?
[04:56] <ben__> dapper XD
[04:56] <ben__> never mind XD
[04:56] <DrZeus> do a research about the Xubuntu splash for gnome plz!!
[04:56] <bruenig> !info mplayer
[04:56] <w30> ookami, does it show up inn the xterminal?
[04:56] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[04:56] <BlueEagle> surgy: did you update your cache with apt-get update?
[04:56] <DrZeus> have a nice day
[04:57] <cw2> BlueEagle, external modems these days are usb anyway, and no tellin what they'll come up with for that
[04:57] <Flannel> ben__: that's dapper.  ARe you up to date?  it seems this was fixed a few weeks ago... or, purportedly
[04:57] <surgy> blue-eagle 50 times
[04:57] <ookami> w30, hidden files dont show with ls here...
[04:57] <audimage> i found one on newegg i bought
[04:57] <audimage> today
[04:57] <ben__> Thought I was, one second will update
[04:57] <audimage> 20 bucks
[04:57] <Flannel> ookami: ls -a
[04:57] <w30> ookami, use ls -l or ls -la
[04:57] <BlueEagle> surgy: !pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[04:57] <ookami> ah! got it. its gone.
[04:57] <SilentOutcast> can someone help me locate the mysql.so extension for php5
[04:58] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell surgy about pastebin
[04:58] <Flannel> !tell SilentOutcast about lamp
[04:58] <ookami>  thanks w30 and flannel.
[04:58] <cafuego> SilentOutcast: php5-mysql - MySQL module for php5
[04:58] <bruenig> surgy, CorpseFeeder, I think it is different kernels, but if not. you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out the ones you don't want or look at them really closely and realize they are different kernels
[04:58] <Flannel> SilentOutcast: that page walks you through the packages you need
[04:58] <bruenig> surgy, nevermind on that last comment
[04:58] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> what package is aclocal part of
[04:58] <SilentOutcast> k thnx
[04:58] <markgreene> hey guys - is there a way to run website with ActiveX while in linux - without WINDOWS VM?
[04:58] <Flannel> markgreene: no
[04:58] <surgy> bruenig: yeah that doesnt apply to me
[04:59] <BlueEagle> markgreene: why would you ever want to? :p
[04:59] <bruenig> surgy, I was starting to tell you to sudo apt-get update but someone else did and I backspaced but forgot to backspace your name
[04:59] <ben__> I just updated, No Dice
[04:59] <JoseStefan> markgreene, is it ActiveX or Java?
[04:59] <CorpseFeeder> I got two sets of ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 and two sets of ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 (recovery mode) in my boot selection screen, both same number, so can different kernels have the same version number?? If they can that's weird - and why do I have two kernels anyway?
[04:59] <surgy> bruenig: ok
[04:59] <markgreene> BlueEagle: That's a joke right? Because there are TONS of website, including my math for school, that uses ActiveX
[04:59] <Flannel> ben__: alright, well, try this fix: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/  that's... a nutshell version of what appears in the bugfix
[04:59] <surgy> blueeEagle: this is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23281
[05:00] <markgreene> JoseStefan: It is ActiveX - I have Java working fine
[05:00] <bruenig> CorpseFeeder, that is weird, comment them out
[05:00] <ookami> so how would i go about changing permissions of a file called tvtime.xml
[05:00] <Flannel> markgreene: they must be really old.  ActiveX isn't even used anymore by windows people
[05:00] <bruenig> ookami, chmod
[05:00] <BlueEagle> markgreene: Email the administrator and tell them that the way they publish their data is bad since it limits you from accessing it.
[05:00] <JoseStefan> CorpseFeeder, put your /boot/grub/menu.lst file on the !pastebin
[05:00] <surgy> any words of wisdom?
[05:00] <BlueEagle> markgreene: Then go on to tell them about alternatives to ActiveX.
[05:01] <markgreene> BlueEagle: The will simply tell me that the University provides 24 hour computer labs for me
[05:01] <BHSPitLappy> hey, I'm hearing an ambient air noise / crackling sound, and all my capture devices are muted... anyone know how to figure out where it's coming from
[05:01] <BlueEagle> markgreene: Then finish off with a pretty pretty please with sugar on top and chocolate sprinkles.
[05:01] <BlueEagle> markgreene: Even better if you can provide or offer to make an alternative and better solution.
[05:01] <markgreene> BlueEagle: I was just looking for a solution that did not depend on relying on my University to revamp an entire online class for one of it's 20k + students
[05:01] <ben__> Okee, will try that. Thanks.  I will check back if it doesn't work
[05:02] <BlueEagle> markgreene: I bet you'll get extra credits if you do it. :)
[05:02] <cw2> grr, seems I had to enable the magical "browsing" in cups
[05:03] <ookami> is this syntax correct? : ookami@inspiron:~/.tvtime$ sudo chown tvtime.xml ookami
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> cw2,  cups web interface is sort of semi-disabled. :( but its fixable
[05:03] <billybennett> If something is asking me I need java runtime, what would I look for in Synaptic
[05:03] <surgy> anyone?
[05:03] <Flannel> !tell billybennett about java
[05:03] <Telroth|Sleep> ookami, name then file
[05:03] <thebeno> If I install flash for my mozilla browser, do I need to uninstall the old version before upgrading, or just unpack and install the new version?
[05:04] <ookami> thanks!
[05:04] <ookami> ^_^
[05:04] <ben__> Do I need to reboot for this fix to work?
[05:04] <surgy> ubotu POOP
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about POOP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> cw2, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2064 has some background on it
[05:04] <Telroth|Sleep> thebeno, if flash was installed by apt-get or synaptic before, then it'll auto-uninstall
[05:04] <Telroth|Sleep> if not, then yes i'd recomment uninstalling
[05:04] <billybennett> Flannel, nope not that one, or it doesnt recognize in firefox
[05:04] <cw2> Dr_Willis, it's just that cups's is broken for cups->cups printing unless you enable browsing.  there's a bug report on it
[05:04] <surgy> ok well
[05:05] <surgy> guess no tovid for me
[05:05] <billybennett> surgy, I can help you with tovid
[05:05] <Flannel> billybennett: keep reading that page, you need a plugin as well, further down
[05:05] <surgy> billybennet: pm?
[05:05] <billybennett> surgy, sure
[05:05] <cw2> Dr_Willis, something about client sending PCL and server expecting text, then convering the PCL to as text to pcl again... which doens't happen if you turn on browsing
[05:05] <Flannel> surgy: you need to enable multiverse to get mplayer
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> cw2,  oh.. thats totally new to me then :P
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> cw2,  amazing how foolproof cups has been... untill dapper - for me. :P
[05:06] <cw2> Dr_Willis, started with the cups version in dapper, didn't do this in breezy
[05:06] <BlueEagle> surgy: did you !pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list yet?
[05:06] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> exs, you still around?
[05:06] <thebeno> Telroth|Sleep: I didn't install via apt-get
[05:06] <flaco> hi... what means that is bash programming "if [ -f /usr/bin/cgwd ] "
[05:06] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Someone want to give me a hand with fixing my audio? There is a related thread here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202555&page=6&highlight=sigmatel+sound
[05:06] <exs> jwl007|ubu_n00b:  really busy., what is it?
[05:06] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> I get no sound at all
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> cw2,  yep..  that url really rants at the ubuntu guys for messing with cups in bad ways
[05:07] <cw2> flaco, man bash.. I think it's a text for exists
[05:07] <Flannel> flaco: looks it, yes.
[05:07] <CorpseFeeder> ok I sorted the boot menu out. It's fine now. Now I have another question...
[05:07] <thebeno> Telroth|Sleep: I install flash via the package on the flash site.
[05:07] <flaco> thks
[05:07] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> HD-Intel sound with a sigmatel chip is what alsamixer tells me
[05:07] <surgy> blueeagle did you tell me to do that?
[05:07] <Telroth|Sleep> thebeno, then you need to uninstall it
[05:07] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> I've had it working before, past few reboots no sound at all
[05:07] <Telroth|Sleep> and i need some sleep
[05:07] <Telroth|Sleep> 'night all
[05:07] <Flannel> surgy: he did a few times.  You need to enable multiverse before you can get mplayer
[05:07] <BlueEagle> surgy: 04:57 < BlueEagle> surgy: !pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[05:07] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> i got an error when running the ./configure script for the video driver.. it said /usr/bin/autoconf possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL.. any idea what this means?
[05:08] <doctorshim> has anybody here tried xen on an athlon x2 system?
[05:08] <BlueEagle> jwl007|ubu_n00b: seem slike you're missing libtool
[05:08] <CorpseFeeder> I am getting some sort of warning during boot up saying that there are differences between the boot sector and its backup... then it lists some numbers and offsets. What could this be about? How can I get a log file or something of this to paste to paste bin?
[05:08] <BlueEagle> jwl007|ubu_n00b: did you install build-essential
[05:09] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> that did it, thanks
[05:09] <surgy> blueeagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23282
[05:09] <CreativePony> hey.. I'm having trouble with the grub boot loader ubuntu dapper installed off the cd..
[05:10] <CreativePony> it doesn't seem to be able to boot an ntfs partition..
[05:10] <RideSn> ive got this problem and can't seem to get the solution menchioned (for breezy) to work in dapper http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109600
[05:10] <pinky_> So I'm installing Dapper 6.06.1 on a MacBook Pro, and it's done installing files, but now it's hung on "Install the elilo boot loader on a hard disk: Running ELILO for /dev/sda1" at 50% and it's not going anywhere.
[05:10] <surgy> blueeagle: its enabled no?
[05:10] <cw2> CreativePony, what's your partition layout
[05:10] <Flannel> surgy: no.
[05:10] <Flannel> surgy: multiverse backports are, not the main dapper repos
[05:10] <Tonren> Hey guys, everything that gets printed gets printed 2 inches lower than it should.  What gives?
[05:10] <SilentOutcast> after i use apt-get install php5-mysql to install php5-mysql how do i load the extension?
[05:10] <SurfnKid> here comes a big fault tolerant question
[05:11] <surgy> flannel: but they arnt ##commented
[05:11] <Tonren> SilentOutcast: It should automatically be working
[05:11] <Flannel> surgy: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:11] <CreativePony> ext3, ntfs, extended (swap).. with some small gaps of unused space between those..
[05:11] <Flannel> no multiverse
[05:11] <SurfnKid> lets say, grub goes fubar, how would i access all files or root# without creaming the whole drive and be able to retrieve or even repair the boot loader
[05:11] <Flannel> surgy: you multiverse is here, on backports: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:11] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> BlueEagle, I ran the script again and it complained about no package for xorg-server found, xproto found, xvmc found, fontsproto found, or libdrm found?
[05:11] <Flannel> surgy: they're different things
[05:11] <RideSn> anyone?
[05:11] <CreativePony> in grub, it says that partition is "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[05:11] <surgy> flannel i dont understand
[05:12] <Flannel> surgy: that first line I pasted, with "universe", make it "universe multiverse"
[05:12] <dannyr> please help with clamAV install - when I run "apt-get install clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam clamtk libclamav1" - I don't get any conf files or daemons installed - can anyone please advise
[05:12] <Flannel> surgy: to enable your multiverse repository
[05:13] <Tonren> Hey guys, everything that gets printed gets printed 2 inches lower than it should.  What gives?
[05:13] <surgy> flannel and thats it?
[05:13] <Flannel> surgy: then you can apt-get mplayer, yeah.  remember to sudo apt-get update though, to update your cache
[05:14] <BlueEagle> surgy: Well I'm no good reading sources.list as I still find the syntax confusing, but my sources.list is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23285 and apt-cache search mplayer yelds http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23286
[05:14] <CorpseFeeder> I am getting some sort of warning during boot up saying that there are differences between the boot sector and its backup... then it lists some numbers and offsets. What could this be about? How can I get a log file or something of this to paste to paste bin?
[05:14] <zenwifi> lots of irc
[05:15] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to get the Ubuntu bootup/shutdown artwork back after installing/uninstalling kubuntu-desktop and/or xubuntu-desktop
[05:15] <red_> i have a problem with my notebook going into suspoend when i close the lid, it doesnt work
[05:15] <CreativePony> I'm thinking about just formatting the pc and trying again.. can anyone verify for me that the grub version included in the released dapper install cd's does support ntfs?
[05:15] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: logs are stored in /var/log, but you can get it from ctrl-alt-f6, then copy/paste
[05:15] <surgy> hey thnx for the help
[05:16] <surgy> i didnt realize how late it is
[05:16] <Flannel> CreativePony: it does
[05:16] <surgy> i gotta roll
[05:16] <CreativePony> okie..
[05:16] <JoseStefan> Tonren, remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash and install ubuntu-artwork-usplash
[05:16] <Tonren> JoseStefan: Ah, thanks.  I had the first half but not the second
[05:16] <JoseStefan> Tonren, actually the 2nd half doesnt seem to exist :(
[05:16] <BlueEagle> jwl007|ubu_n00b: which video driver are we talking about here?
[05:17] <Tonren> JoseStefan: I just discovered that
[05:17] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> So no one can help me with my sound issues?
[05:17] <JoseStefan> Tonren, try ubuntu-artwork
[05:17] <Tonren> JoseStefan: Says it's already at the most recent version
[05:17] <Tonren> JoseStefan: How do you reinstall a pkg?
[05:17] <JoseStefan> Tonren, apt-get --reinstall install ...
[05:18] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Bah, no sound really bites
[05:18] <Tonren> JoseStefan: Maybe that worked out...
[05:18] <Flannel> RideSn: both suns java, and eclipse, are in the repositories, you shouldn't need to manually install anything
[05:18] <Tonren> JoseStefan: Guess I'll restart and see
[05:19] <RideSn> flannel: ok thanks
[05:19] <JoseStefan> Tonren, try a reinstall of usplash too
[05:19] <Tonren> JoseStefan: Just 'usplash'?
[05:19] <JoseStefan> Tonren, "usplash"
[05:19] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Cmon, I know someone wants to help ;)
[05:20] <Crescendo> I need to capture video of my Ubuntu Desktop - how would I go about this?
[05:20] <JoseStefan> Tonren, it seems there are no more related packages, you might want to consider 'ubuntu-desktop' and 'ubuntu-base'
[05:21] <Tonren> JoseStefan: hm
[05:21] <red_> how do i go about changing themes
[05:21] <w30> Get a video camera an put it about 3 feet away from your screen and darken the room.......
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> red_,  theres a theme thing in the contolpanel/settings menus :P rather easy
[05:22] <wira1_8> wow
[05:22] <jwl007|ubu_n00b> how do you reconfigure xorg again?
[05:22] <Flannel> Crescendo: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/  has one method
[05:22] <Dysko> anyone had any luck getting a Toshiba Satellite A100 Atheros Wifi adapter working with Ubuntu?
[05:23] <CorpseFeeder> lol I pressed ctrl+alt+f6 and I went to a login prompt but couldn;t work out how to get back in here so I just rebooted the machine... Now where was that boot up log file again? I'll try find it in a terminal window instead this time.
[05:23] <red_> where can i download different ones though
[05:23] <Dysko> I have tried the madwifi method and the ndiswrapper and I still cant' get it to work.
[05:23] <bill__> what is the command that shows what kernel you're running?
[05:23] <Crescendo> Thanks, Flannel
[05:23] <JoseStefan> bill__ uname -a
[05:23] <bill__> thanks
[05:24] <UTChris> Hello, I am having a problem installing ubuntu
[05:25] <CorpseFeeder> someone tell me again where to find the log file for errors which come up during boot up?
[05:25] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: /var/log/dmesg perhaps
[05:26] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> dmesg
[05:26] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Cmon guys, give me some help with my alsa/sound issues, no sound bytes! :P
[05:26] <young> I just installed ubuntu from HardDisk
[05:27] <pibarnas> Does anyone install ubuntu amd64 on a samsung sata hdd?
[05:27] <young> It looks pretty good
[05:27] <UTChris> when I run the live cd (and I also think this has something to do with the installer freezing) I receive the error "Buffer I/O error on device sdb logical block 0"
[05:27] <wd3> anybody know where i can get circle button bar?
[05:27] <no_dog> I have dual displays working, but ubuntu is using the wrong display as my primary one. How can I change the configure so that it uses the opposite display as primary?
[05:27] <UTChris> then "sdb: assuming drive cache: write through"
[05:27] <chibiace> any I/O errors from cddrives are bad :S
[05:27] <iceman24k> at last a System with the NVidia driver installed :)
[05:28] <UTChris> and it eventually (10-15 min) will boot
[05:28] <iceman24k> fought this driver for 10 hours on a Compaq POS, and installed it in 10 minute on a dell :)
[05:28] <UTChris> bad in what way?
[05:29] <chibiace> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: does it recognize your sound card?
[05:29] <corevette> is the internet supposed to work when you have the live cd in?
[05:29] <iceman24k> ok, who can help me config sound :(
[05:29] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> chibiace, yup
[05:29] <JoseStefan> corevette, depends on your network settings
[05:29] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> And ive adjusted settings via alsamixer
[05:29] <UTChris> It does it with a burned CD as well as one straight from ubuntu
[05:29] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> and its worked in the past
[05:29] <chibiace> UTChris:  i installed slackware with a dodgy cddrive it was so bad. i had to reinstall afew times until i got lucky
[05:29] <corevette> JoseStefan: what do you mean?
[05:30] <UTChris> When I go to install it, the installer freezes 50% when setting up the partitioner
[05:31] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> chibiace, I'm baffled :-/
[05:31] <iceman24k> how can i restart sound
[05:31] <thebeno> Why can't apt-get find the package aircrack?
[05:31] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Others are haveing the same problems on the ubuntu forums
[05:31] <chibiace> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: there are many things that could be hampering you.
[05:31] <chibiace> thebeno: apt-cache search aircrack
[05:32] <thebeno> chibiace: Doesn't find anything.
[05:32] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> chibiace, I realize this, but all the normal stuff checks out, it appears to be a bug in a update after a fresh install (I'm not a linux novice by any means)
[05:32] <no_dog> I have dual displays working, but ubuntu is using the wrong display as my primary one. How can I change the configure so that it uses the opposite display as primary?
[05:32] <iceman24k> whats command for alsa reconfig t orestart alsa
[05:32] <chibiace> thebeno: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories added
[05:32] <iceman24k> !alsa
[05:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:33] <thebeno> chibiace, Nope, how do I do that?
[05:33] <pinky_> So I'm installing Dapper 6.06.1 on a MacBook Pro, and it's done installing files, but now it's hung on "Install the elilo boot loader on a hard disk: Running ELILO for /dev/sda1" at 50% and it's not going anywhere.
[05:33] <JoseStefan> corevette, if you have DHCP working, it should work easily
[05:33] <chibiace> thebeno: system > administation > software properties
[05:33] <CorpseFeeder> how do I tell if filenames which are listed from a "dir" command are folders or files?
[05:34] <corevette> josestefan: how do you tell if it's working
[05:34] <BlueEagle> no_dog: In most cases the easiest way is to physically change the connectors. Atleast that's what I've found after trying this and that to get the primary display moved.
[05:34] <corevette> josestefan, hdcp that is
[05:34] <corevette> *dhcp
[05:34] <no_dog> blueeagle: not an option, unfortunately. one display is DVI, the other VGA
[05:34] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> this is getting anoying :(
[05:34] <BlueEagle> no_dog: Let me guess. The VGA is the primary?
[05:34] <JoseStefan> corevette, that's a feature found on most routers, that will send all the network settings to the computers, without needing to do much on the PC
[05:34] <no_dog> blueeagle: aye :/
[05:35] <chibiace> CorpseFeeder: use ls instead of dir
[05:35] <thebeno> chibiace: which once should I add, do I want backports etc?
[05:35] <BlueEagle> no_dog: same as I've got then. You could get a dvi-vga adapter.
[05:35] <UTChris> if anyone has any troubleshooting tips for me please send me a PM
[05:35] <thebeno> chibiace: Binary or source?
[05:35] <CorpseFeeder> I see.. from ls, blue is folders and red is what?
[05:35] <BlueEagle> no_dog: and obviously one that goes the other way around.
[05:35] <chibiace> thebeno: ubuntu 6.06 lts, binary and both those repositories i mentioned
[05:36] <corevette> josestefan: so if you think the internet doesn't work with a wireless card....and the router supports dhcp, you think i should install ndiswrapper?
[05:36] <chibiace> CorpseFeeder: experiment :P
[05:36] <no_dog> blueeagle: hrm. I'll play with my xorg.conf some more. if I can figure it out, I'll let you know
[05:36] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: ls -l will list permissions and explain links. Red files tend to be dead symlinks.
[05:36] <JoseStefan> corevette, i dont know if wireless cards work from the live cd
[05:36] <BlueEagle> no_dog: that would be good.
[05:36] <Dysko> what can I do to get this working.  0000:05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001c (rev 01)
[05:36] <Dysko>         Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp.: Unknown device 7106
[05:36] <Dysko>         Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 185
[05:36] <Dysko>         Memory at da000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 
[05:36] <Dysko>         Capabilities: <available only to root>
[05:37] <BlueEagle> no_dog: Not that it matters that much to me becaus I am happy having the VGA screen as the primary..
[05:37] <JoseStefan> !pastebin > Dysko
[05:37] <chibiace> JoseStefan: some do, my intel wireless worked, i dont believe theres any ndiswrapper on the cd though
[05:37] <thebeno> chibiace: Thank you.
[05:37] <chibiace> :)
[05:38] <UTChris> No ideas?
[05:38] <chibiace> Dysko, with ndiswrapper which windows drivers did you load
[05:38] <ANTDx1> I have a question...I'm trying to use Ubuntu to work on java projects for school.  I installed the JRE and the JDK and my project compiles fine, but when I try to run it, it gives errors about missing classes.
[05:39] <Dysko> the net5211.inf file
[05:39] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, did you make Sun's Java the default?
[05:39] <Dysko> It is the latest driver from Toshiba for my Atheros Wifi
[05:39] <BlueEagle> no_dog: The relevant parts of my xorg.conf is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23287 if that helps you any.
[05:39] <ANTDx1> I did not do any action on my own...how can I check to see if Sun's is the default?
[05:40] <JoseStefan> !java > ANTDx1
[05:40] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1: the guide ubotu sent you has a chapter about that
[05:40] <chibiace> Dysko: for my usb atheros thingie i had to install 2
[05:40] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. I can't seem to find the log file in /var/log which contains the messages I see while the computer boots up... it's saying something about boot sector and backup do not match. Anyone else have a clue where I might find this in a log file?
[05:41] <BlueEagle> but now it's night
[05:41] <chibiace> Dysko: athfmwdl
[05:42] <CorpseFeeder> where are all the places I should expect top find messages which appear during boot up, so I can check each one?
[05:42] <CorpseFeeder> top=to
[05:43] <corevette> does anyone know if wireless cards work with the live cd?
[05:43] <iceman24k> Amazing the NVIDIA driver installed in 5 minutes on this Dell, dang compaq
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > jack_sparrow
[05:44] <TeePOG> what's that command you use when you change the hostname, to generate the keys for the ltsp?
[05:46] <grasshopper> Hello Guys!
[05:46] <grasshopper> HI! i wondered why i dont get screensaver here
[05:46] <CorpseFeeder> i get a message about the boot sector is different from the backup, and a list of offsets and numbers every time I boot up, but I can't find where the log is which contains these messages.
[05:46] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow boy that driver and the compaq suck, i installed it in 5 minutes on this dell :) thats for the assist though
[05:46] <thebeno> Has anyone got kismet working?
[05:47] <red_> what dvd ripper does anyone recomend
[05:47] <IcemanV9> what's the quick way to see iptables' rules?
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> great
[05:47] <thebigde1dwaltz> why would my wireless usb keyboard/mouse work sometimes and not others?
[05:48] <IcemanV9> s/way/command
[05:48] <Healot> iptables -L
[05:48] <Healot> well you need sudo
[05:48] <thebeno> Has anyone got kismet working?  What does the error Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf... ?
[05:49] <IcemanV9> thks Healot
[05:49] <JoseStefan> IcemanV9, you forgot a trailing slash, i think
[05:49] <iceman24k> how do you install Icons themes in gnome
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Iceman drag and drop onto the theme manager
[05:50] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow ty
[05:50] <ANTDx1> Another question...it says that the flashplugin-nonfree package could not be found when i try to get the flash plugin
[05:50] <nathansnook> i have problem with printer and system load
[05:50] <JoseStefan> !multiverse
[05:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:50] <grasshopper> yea, HI,
[05:51] <IcemanV9> hmm .. iptables is empty - no rules. is that default?
[05:51] <grasshopper> i wondered why i dont get screensaver here
[05:51] <JoseStefan> IcemanV9, yes
[05:51] <ciscosurfer> bring it
[05:51] <grasshopper> can anyone say?
[05:52] <Healot> IcemanV9: yes
[05:52] <Healot> at least in default install
[05:52] <IcemanV9> grasshopper: did u turn it on? installed?
[05:52] <IcemanV9> JoseStefan, Healot: ok. thks.
[05:52] <grasshopper> IcemanV9, as far as i can tell yes
[05:52] <CorpseFeeder> obviously finding log files for messages during boot up is too difficult for anyone to answer. I'll ask a different question instead - I have a Canon Pixma iP3000 printer connected via USB to an Apple iMac running OS X, which is a shared network printer with other Macs and Windows PCs on the network using Bonjour. How do I configure the Linux machines to be able to print to it as well?
[05:53] <grasshopper> It used to work, then i changed monitor and it stopped working, But in Zenwalk screensaver works, so why not in Ubuntu?
[05:53] <IcemanV9> grasshopper: okay. to test it, hit crtl + atl + L
[05:54] <grasshopper> IcemanV9, makes my screen go blank
[05:55] <IcemanV9> grasshopper: then, it is your screensaver - blank .. you can modify it by system > pref > screensaver
[05:55] <grasshopper> IcemanV9, dude it doesn't work
[05:56] <grasshopper> IcemanV9, i 've been there
[05:56] <marshall> hey guys
[05:56] <marshall> are there any people in here who use xara xtreme?
[05:56] <marshall> for vector graphics
[05:56] <CorpseFeeder> how do I print to a USB printer which is connected to an iMac on the local network?
[05:57] <wasabi> You need to share out the printer from the iMac, as some protocol.
[05:57] <wasabi> Believe that'll be IPP by default.
[05:57] <IcemanV9> grasshopper: then, i don't know what's else to say :/
[05:57] <grasshopper> IcemanV9, only a couple work, most of them upon selecting i get blank screen
[05:57] <wasabi> On the mac, set it up to allow printing to it, by whatever means the Mac lets you do.
[05:57] <sanzky> hi, does anyone knows is the bcm43xx driver has trouble in the last edgy snapshot?
[05:57] <wasabi> Then add a local printer cue to it.
[05:57] <sanzky> i had to change to ndiswrapper
[05:57] <CorpseFeeder> well.. the printer is currently shared out to Windows PCs
[05:58] <wasabi> As IPP or SMB?
[05:58] <CorpseFeeder> I can't remember if it is IPP or SMB or how to find out... but what I do know is that the PCs use Bonjour to connect to the printer
[06:00] <Dysko> where is the best place to get my dmesg log and lspci list's looked over for correction of problems
[06:00] <rdr_> I have a small installation related issue..
[06:01] <rdr_> can I Install just ubuntu-minimal ?
[06:01] <poningru> rdr_: yep
[06:01] <poningru> Dysko: pastebin
[06:01] <poningru> !pastebin > Dysko
[06:01] <rdr_> so that I can get just a simple system that boots and has network support?
[06:02] <rdr_> how?
[06:02] <ANTDx1> JoseStefan:  I have enabled multiverse, but it still says that it could not find the packages.
[06:02] <poningru> rdr_: yes but no gui
[06:02] <rdr_> don't need a GUI
[06:02] <poningru> rdr_: yes then ubuntu-minimal
[06:02] <glick> hi
[06:02] <poningru> just get the server cd
[06:02] <CorpseFeeder> I can't tell if this printer is set up for IPP or SMB. All I get on the mac end is a tick box for "Printer Sharing" which is ticked.
[06:02] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, did you do: sudo apt-get update   ?
[06:02] <trappist> I screwed up bad.  is it possible to restore the default fontconfig after, say, removing (deconfiguring) all my fonts?
[06:02] <glick> hey has anyone read/reviewed that book Ubuntu Unleashed that just came out a couple of weeks ago?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> corpse,  i would guess smb. My printserver however does both.
[06:02] <rdr_> poningru: did that... but it installed close to 500MB
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> glick,  i got 'ubuntu hacks' last week. :P
[06:03] <grasshopper> IcemanV9, out of the whole menu, only like 4/5 work
[06:03] <glick> Dr_Willis, yeah i looked at that, but didnt like it really
[06:03] <rdr_> poningru: how do I do that from the server CD?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> glick,  it showed me a lot of things i dident know. :P but its not a beginners guide. heh.
[06:04] <glick> yeah im not really lookin for a beginners guide
[06:04] <IcemanV9> grasshopper: i don't know why it behaves like that, but at least you figured which does work.
[06:04] <grasshopper> IcemanV9, true, its better than no screensaver at all, but odd nevertheless
[06:04] <JoseStefan> is that the book featured on the ubuntu.com site ?
[06:04] <RideSn> can anyone tell my how to completely remve eclipse from dapper? config files and all
[06:05] <RideSn> *remove
[06:05] <rdr_> poningru: any hints?
[06:05] <ANTDx1> Still nothing, JoseStefan.
[06:05] <mike__> vlc player and totem have probs playing media,,Mplayer is fine?
[06:05] <poningru> rdr_: sorry not sure...
[06:05] <poningru> rdr_: just boot up the server cd, it should be self explanatory iirc
[06:05] <JoseStefan> RideSn, try: sodo apt-get --purge remove (PackageName)
[06:06] <RideSn> jose: thanks
[06:06] <rdr_> poningru: hmm.. well.. it doesn't have a minimal install...
[06:06] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the !pastebin
[06:06] <rdr_> ubuntu-minimal has an installed size of 40MB I think..
[06:06] <reitzell> what file should I edit to set my path?
[06:07] <odat> hi everyone
[06:07] <ANTDx1> what is the !pastebin?
[06:07] <JoseStefan> !pastebin > ANTDx1
[06:07] <Dysko> can someone please have a look at my lspci -v results for the Wireless card.  I also have a dmesg log if that helps.
[06:08] <odat> anyone ever had there line audio just stop working ?
[06:08] <michael117> What's a good program that is in the repo that allows me to record videos of what's happening on my screen?
[06:08] <rdr_> poningru: only options are install to HDD, and install a LAMP server
[06:08] <poningru> rdr_: https://launchpad.net/products/uubuntu
[06:09] <poningru> rdr_: err nm
[06:10] <odat> anyone ever have their line in for audio just stop working?
[06:10] <IcemanV9> Dysko: what is your paste number? so we know where to take a look at.
[06:10] <rdr_> poningru: they are just starting off I guess :)
[06:10] <ANTDx1> Ok JoseStefan its there
[06:10] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, you need to give me the paste number
[06:11] <ANTDx1> ok
[06:11] <grasshopper> Does anyone else only get 4/5 of the total list of screensavers to work? most of mine just turn blank...
[06:11] <Dysko> sorry mate, not sure how to past it up for you.  some guidance please?
[06:11] <JoseStefan> !pastebin > Dysko
[06:12] <ANTDx1> I don't see a paste number
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> grasshopper,  not all are installed.. not sure why they show on the list.
[06:12] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, the resulting URL address
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> grasshopper,  plus theres the xscreensaver list. then the other screensaver list. :P i got 2 icons for 'screensavers' in my preferances menu.. the 2nd one is the one i use.
[06:12] <ANTDx1> 23289
[06:13] <grasshopper> Dr_Willis, whats the solution?
[06:13] <ANTDx1> I left the commented section out, but there are no commented sources anyway
[06:13] <poningru> rdr_: yeah looks like the option just isnt there
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> grasshopper,  i use the blank screen :P  and dont worry about it much.
[06:13] <poningru> soryr
[06:13] <cavediver> Hi. I'm trying to update dapper to edgy using update-manager -d and it can't make all changes it sais and tells me to run apt-get dist-upgrade. However that has always faild for me in the pas, hence using update-manager. I changed dapper to edgy beforehand. Is there another syntax to use for upgrading to developer version ?
[06:13] <iceman24k> whats the eyecandy app for gnome
[06:13] <iceman24k> not gkrellm but like karamba
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> grasshopper,  heh heh.. not really a mission-critical issue.. fire up the package manager. search for screensaver and start installing. if ya want
[06:14] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, you might need to add the 'dapper-updates' repository
[06:14] <rdr_> poningru: trying with my own preseed file..
[06:14] <ViperFox> Can any one here give me some help with nvidia and tv out?
[06:14] <xororand> hey there
[06:14] <xororand> woah, 821
[06:14] <cavediver> No one ?
[06:14] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, you can do that using "Software Properties" on the Administration menu
[06:15] <iceman24k> whats the program for Gnome like Karamba ?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  i set up twinview. and hacked my xorg to get it working.. found an example at a gentoo wiki page.
[06:15] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, then try: "sudo apt-get update && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[06:15] <iceman24k> gdesklette :) oh
[06:16] <ANTDx1> ok
[06:16] <IcemanV9> cavediver: you can ask in #ubuntu+1 (edgy channel)
[06:16] <xororand> i'm currently installing edgy eft in a chroot directory using debootstrap.. no problems so far but i couldn't find the right tool to configure my locales
[06:16] <xororand> (/usr/sbin/base-config isn't there)
[06:16] <ViperFox> ok, could you walk me thru some of this, i have tried several of the soultions posted after a long google session and havent gotten any results
[06:17] <ANTDx1> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[06:18] <IcemanV9> flashplugin-nonfree is in multiverse repo
[06:18] <ANTDx1> I know, IcemanV9
[06:18] <ANTDx1> multiverse is enabled
[06:19] <IcemanV9> ok. then try sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:19] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, did you add dapper-updates? could you repost your sources.list
[06:19] <ViperFox> Can i get a walk thru for my xorg config to use Svid out from my nvidia card?
[06:19] <JoseStefan> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[06:19] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:20] <xororand> hmm what could i do if dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't work (perl: warning: setting locale failed)
[06:20] <JoseStefan> ANTDx1, are you on i386 ?
[06:20] <ANTDx1> No
[06:20] <ANTDx1> AMD 64
[06:20] <JoseStefan> :(
[06:20] <IcemanV9> ah. that explains!
[06:20] <ViperFox> TV out anyone?
[06:20] <ANTDx1> I found a guide explaining how to get a 32-bit firefox on AMD 64 and I did what it said, but it did not install the flash player, or if it did, I am unable to find it
[06:22] <CorpseFeeder> ok, found the printer on the imac, now the "Add a Printer" thing is asking me for a printer driver. My printer is not listed :( What do I do now?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  ive not seen a walkthrough. I set up twinview and  set up the tv as if it was a monitor.
[06:23] <JoaoJoao> Damn I'm about to give up on Ubuntu :(
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  the ubuntu wiki/forums may have some guides now.
[06:23] <ViperFox> I have used all of those with no luck
[06:23] <IcemanV9> ANTDx1: did the flash player shows up in about:plugins?
[06:23] <ViperFox> could you share your xorg file so i can see what you did?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  i  had to install the nvidia drivers.. then the dang X server defaulted to showing on the tv..
[06:23] <JoaoJoao> please, anyone here managed to install Ubuntu in a box with a JMicron IDE chipset?
[06:24] <ViperFox> intresting
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out
[06:24] <ANTDx1> It does.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> is what i followed ViperFox
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> and yes - it took me some time.
[06:25] <IcemanV9> JoaoJoao: did you try alternative CD?
[06:25] <ANTDx1> However, a site I normally visit on Windows is telling me that I don't have flash
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TV-Out_with_GeForce   heh
[06:25] <benjamin112> hello room...
[06:26] <odat> my line in just stopped working
[06:26] <CorpseFeeder> if my printer isn't listed in the available drivers and there is no linux driver at the manufacturer's website, what do I do?
[06:26] <IcemanV9> ANTDx1: yeah, it may requires flash 8 (which is not available for linux)
[06:26] <stuart_> hi, can someone please help me get rid of the Grub error 17
[06:26] <JoaoJoao> IcemanV9: Yup, doesn't work
[06:26] <benjamin112> i'm completely new at this, does anybody know about turning off "tapping" on a synaptic touchpad?
[06:27] <IcemanV9> ANTDx1: you're not alone with this issue - flash 8 is not available for linux.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> benjamin112,  you enable a option in the xorg.conf then run qsynaptic and it can do it. :P
[06:27] <stuart_> i can only boot my computer  with the live cd
[06:27] <ANTDx1> Hmm...so how do users deal with this problem?
[06:27] <ANTDx1> Just don't go to sites using Flash8?
[06:27] <benjamin112> dr....i dont think i know how to do that
[06:27] <IcemanV9> JoaoJoao: alright. so the install stopped at some point?
[06:28] <JoaoJoao> IcemanV9: It doesn't detect the CD-ROM
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> benjamin112,  its got an entry in that 'ubuntu hacks' book. :P  let me look.
[06:28] <benjamin112> ok thanks
[06:28] <JoaoJoao> JMicron driver bug
[06:28] <IcemanV9> ANTDx1: well, my wife wants to see some sites (using flash8), i just installed win32 Firefox with wine. it works.
[06:28] <IcemanV9> JoaoJoao: oy. no update on their website?
[06:29] <JoaoJoao> IcemanV9: The bug is fixed, but I would need an updated Dapper ISO
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> benjamin112,  you need the     the    -->    Option "SHMconfig" "on"    in the xorg.conf file    in the "input device" section for the  "Synaptics Touchpad"
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> benjamin112,  then you can run qsynaptics to configure ll sorts of neat things
[06:30] <montytaylor> hey all... anybody here feel like helping with edgy problems?
[06:30] <montytaylor> I upgraded and now dvd playback has gone all jerky on me.
 #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <montytaylor> brian98: thanks
[06:31] <benjamin112> haha....umm could you walk me through it drwillis? i just started using linux and dont have much of a clue where to start...
[06:31] <Jordan_> Is there any difference between installing Ubungu server and adding Ubuntu-desktop vs.  installing Ubuntu Desktop iso and adding Apache, PHP and SQL packages?
[06:31] <IcemanV9> JoaoJoao: if i could remember, i think there is a wiki on create an updated iso on your own somewhere.
[06:32] <stuart_> i installed ubuntu on a spare hard drive and now neigther it nor XP will load
[06:32] <stuart_> i need some GRUB help please
[06:32] <JoaoJoao> I would need a machine with Linux installed to do the upgrade and generate the ISO
[06:32] <montytaylor> jordantbro: ubuntu-server installs less crap in the first place. If you don't mind gui desktop stuff, installing desktop is fine
[06:33] <jordantbro> thank you, what would you suggest as a desktop for a semi-noob trying to setup LAMP.  I am not quite ready to go totally without GUI yet.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,   My xorg.conf --> http://usalug.org/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=25
[06:34] <montytaylor> jordantbro: just go with gnome. it's the default.
[06:34] <synjet> !r bomm*app
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r bomm*app - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <ANTDx1> Thanks to everyone who helped/tried to help me with things.  It really is appreciated.
[06:35] <Dysko> where is the best place to get Ubuntu support for drivers and hardware which is not up and going?
[06:35] <JoaoJoao> well I'm fscked :)
[06:35] <jordantbro> Thanks montytaylor
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Dysko,  for free?  or pay?
[06:35] <malv> does nvidia support aiglx yet?
[06:35] <JoaoJoao> I will have to wait for Edgy
[06:35] <Dysko> anyone who knows what they are doing would be of great advantage
[06:36] <odat> anyone help me
[06:36] <odat> my line in for audio stopped working
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Dysko,  ubuntu wiki/forums and here.. and google :P
[06:36] <mike__> How can I update to Gnome 2.16?
[06:37] <mike__> noooob
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  i imagine the best way would be to wait for edgy to get released.
[06:37] <mike__> ok
[06:37] <Dysko> here is fine, but I have a dmseg file I need looked at, as well as a lspci entry.  I think everyone here is shy
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu just sort of works that way. :P every 6 mo EVERYTHING is updated.. (in the new release)
[06:37] <TokenBad> I give up...going to reinstall OS can't fix my problem and no one on forum knows how to fix it
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> of course in 6+1 mos thees somthing new.. that we have to wait for the next release.
[06:38] <IcemanV9> JoaoJoao: can't find it atm :/ fwiw, there is an iso for edgy that you can test it to see if it does detect it or not.
[06:38] <mike__> Dr_Willis: have found media codecs a real pain
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  i never have problems with them. :P
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  i tend to get the packages from the mplayer homepage.
[06:39] <mike__> Dr_Willis: mplayer is fine vlc is not so happy
[06:39] <BHSPitLappy> ok, what gives... gnome-terminal crashes all the time
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> i tend to have better luck with vlc then mplayer
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> but it depends on what porn.. err.. videos you have downloaded.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:39] <ViperFox> Dr_Willia
[06:39] <mike__> *_*
[06:39] <ViperFox> Dr_Willis*
[06:39] <mike__> Willy
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  yes? :P
[06:40] <ViperFox> its giving me a black sreen now on the tv, so its givin output but no picture
[06:40] <iceman24k> i am open to recomendations for a media player for avi, mpeg, mpg, what covers the most file type support
[06:40] <Dysko> how can you have an unknown device in your Device manager if the Vendor and subvendor are identifiable
[06:40] <mike__> Dr_Willis: ok so why no go with vlc?
[06:40] <ViperFox> any thoughts?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  you may want to enalble the clone mode
[06:40] <hawkaloogie> iceman24k, currently, totem-gstreamer with all the gstreamer-plugins loaded
[06:40] <ViperFox> so, Option "TwinView" "1"?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> mike__,  i imagine its the codec/video file issues..
[06:40] <IcemanV9> BHSPitLappy: alt-f2, type xterm .. in xterm, type gnome-terminal - you should see error message
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  i dont have the twinview docs memorised. :P not sure exactly.. ive twiddeld with the stuff so much.
[06:41] <ViperFox> ok
[06:42] <mike__> Dr_Willis: pclos is all American and i cannot find a thing it will not play?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  i recall a clone option somewhere.. :) perhaps in one of my other xorg.confs
[06:43] <iceman24k> after a 10 hour fight yesterday i tried my dell hyperthread system and got that Nvidia driver in minutes :)
[06:43] <phargle> peep
[06:44] <mike__> Why the legal issues with codecs?
[06:44] <RideSn> can anyone tell me why when i step through a simple hello world program in eclipse i get printstream.class error "rt.jar has no source attachment"
[06:44] <RideSn> im stuck
[06:44] <iceman24k> !glx
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <iceman24k> !gxl
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gxl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <iceman24k> whats the 3d desktop package
[06:45] <kendrick> hey there.  i'm trying to build a kernel module from source, and am not sure what packages to install to be able to do it.
[06:46] <iceman24k> !xgl
[06:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:46] <kendrick> IcemanV9: 3ddesktop ?
[06:46] <kendrick> that's just a desktop switche
[06:46] <iceman24k> xgl
[06:46] <kendrick> +r
[06:47] <kendrick> I installed linux-source-* and linux-headers-* for my kernel version, but when i go to 'Make' this module, i get:  "WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions."
[06:47] <mike__> why the legal crap with codecs/
[06:47] <mike__> no need
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Lawyers
[06:47] <toaks> mike__: whats that about legal issues?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> and Greedy businnesses
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> and Legal issues. :P
[06:48] <mike__> patents blah blah
[06:48] <ViperFox> Willy, twinview didnt help
[06:48] <toaks> isnt ubuntu packaging binaries now anyway.
[06:48] <CromagDK> !wmv
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:48] <mike__> pclinuxos plays all
[06:49] <thedash> in a bash script, is there a way to limit the length of a variable?
[06:50] <total_meltdown> Hey, do any of you know how to set up Ubuntu Dapper with the OpenMosix kernel for Clustering?
[06:52] <total_meltdown> I've looked on the forums and Google, but it seems the only things I can find are either APIs for clustering (I.E. compiled at the application level, not the kernel level), half-completed guides, or support threads that never resolved the problem
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  it pays to read/learn/tweak.. it can work..  ya just got to figure out what to change..
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox, http://usalug.org/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=26   i THINK has the clone option.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  i got a collection of like 20 different xorg.confs i messed with. :P
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  also the  xorg configure tools i hear CAN set up twinview. but not sure how it handles tv out.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Thats mentioned in that Ubuntu Hacks book as well. :)
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  be sure to backup your working xorg.conf files - and the command that MAY set it up.. is...
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  ' sudo nvidia-xconfig -twinview '
[06:56] <ViperFox> negs Willis, that mad the tv all staticy and jumpy
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  what did?
[06:56] <ViperFox> the nvidia-xconfig -twinview
[06:57] <RideSn> anyone think they can beat my eclipse/java error?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  no clue on that.. ive never used it. :P just saw it in that book.
[06:57] <ViperFox> lol...worth a shot at least
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Did you boot the box with the tv hooked up?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> I had some issues with  not booting with the tv allready plugged in.
[06:58] <ViperFox> well its hooked up via a surroud receiver
[06:58] <total_meltdown> RideSn: I dunno, I used to use Visual Studio, I could probably come close. What was it?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. on a svideo cable?
[06:58] <ViperFox> actually an svid to comp adapter
[06:58] <ViperFox> hinky i know
[06:58] <ViperFox> but it worked once b4
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> when i hooked mine up. the dang X display defaulted to the tv out. :P i got the console on my monitor.. but startx would seem to run.. and id hear the gnome strtup sounds.. but no picture.. THEN i turned on the tv and saw it. :)
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> so - yes it can be tricky
[07:00] <RideSn> meltdown: eclipse keeps defaulting to java 1.4.2 and when i point it to 1.5.0 which is installed i get an "rt.jar has no source" error when debugging
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> double check all the  xorg settings and  twiddle/tweak/read the twinview docs. and perhaps find better/other examples
[07:00] <kendrick> i think the magic i needed was: apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[07:00] <kendrick> cya
[07:00] <thedash> in a bash script, is there a way to limit the length of a variable?
[07:00] <RideSn> meltdown: how can i remove java 1.4.2?
[07:00] <RideSn> perhaps
[07:01] <total_meltdown> egh
[07:01] <ViperFox> alright....i guess back to the drawing board on this one
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ViperFox,  plus thers the ntsc/pal settings that may vary.
[07:01] <corevette> doesn anyone know if the live cd for ubuntu enables wireless pci support?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> :P im in the usa - so i use ntsc
[07:01] <total_meltdown> RideSn: apt-cache search java | grep 1.4
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> corevette,  depends on the card.
[07:02] <total_meltdown> There's a package called j2re1.4
[07:02] <total_meltdown> and then j2sdk1.4
[07:02] <total_meltdown> I think that's what you want
[07:04] <emachine_> need help with sound in
[07:04] <RideSn> meltdown: ok i get stuff about j2sdk1.4. . . . blackdown java etc.
[07:04] <emachine_> line in
[07:04] <total_meltdown> yeah - I'd get those packages and remove 1.5
[07:04] <total_meltdown> You can use Aptitude if you're more comfortable with that - I just have this weird command-line fettish
[07:05] <JoseStefan> apt-get for the win
[07:05] <RideSn> meltdown: so simply sudo apt-get remove ??
[07:06] <corpse> Evening.
[07:06] <total_meltdown> RideSn: I don't know what the 1.5 packages are... Perhaps just install 1.4 without removing?
[07:06] <RideSn> ok
[07:07] <total_meltdown> j2re1.4 and j2sdk1.4 I think
[07:07] <RideSn> ok
[07:09] <emachine_> ok line in is not working
[07:09] <emachine_> anyone able to help?
[07:10] <total_meltdown> Line in?
[07:11] <total_meltdown> as in the Audio input?
[07:11] <total_meltdown> I'd look in AlsaMixer - check for Muted channels
[07:12] <amicrawle> guys need help finding somthing !
[07:12] <amicrawle> a file
[07:12] <total_meltdown> ?
[07:12] <amicrawle> kpgp
[07:13] <amicrawle> in not listed in the archives with ubnutu!
[07:13] <total_meltdown> what is this file for?
[07:13] <amicrawle> sending email
[07:13] <total_meltdown> hmm
[07:13] <amicrawle> encryption
[07:13] <emachine_> total_meltdown, did all that  its just stopped working  was working fine for months
[07:13] <total_meltdown> are you trying to find it on your local machine, or the interweb?
[07:13] <emachine_> total_meltdown, hooked the speaker up directly and it works fine
[07:13] <amicrawle> the web
[07:14] <amicrawle> the app is called kpgp
[07:14] <amicrawle> had it on suse
[07:14] <swim_> hey folks, does anyone know if there is anyplace I can download the ubuntu edgy eft gnome themes?
[07:14] <total_meltdown> emachine_: hmm... so it's not a hardware issue... what were you doing when it stopped working?
[07:14] <JoseStefan> swim_ ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:14] <swim_> thx
[07:15] <amicrawle> does any body know were i can d/l kpgp for  dapper
[07:15] <total_meltdown> amicrawle: there's a package called tkpgp in the apt repository, is that what you're looking for?
[07:15] <amicrawle> yes
[07:15] <emachine_> total_meltdown, nothing i turned on my machine and it didn't work
[07:15] <amicrawle> no not tk apps
[07:15] <amicrawle> it's make for kde
[07:16] <toaks> just installed ubuntu version 5.10
[07:16] <toaks> using the server option
[07:16] <toaks> what is the root password?
[07:17] <toaks> it never asks during the install.
[07:17] <total_meltdown> emachine_: Ah, the joys of Linux and hardware support. My sound wasn't working for the longest time, turns out it was because I had the output channel 'external amplifier' unmuted, and it was fscking up other things. Could there be some similar channel that's pwning your Line in Channel?
[07:17] <clarence> does any one know how to install picasa on a amd64 bit
[07:17] <JoseStefan> !tell toaks about sudo
[07:17] <total_meltdown> toaks: use sudo
[07:17] <toaks> tell me about sudo!
[07:17] <total_meltdown> JoseStefan: Op! I beat you
[07:17] <JoseStefan> total_meltdown, not on my screen
[07:17] <toaks> !tell oaks about sudo
[07:17] <total_meltdown> toaks: http://www.google.com/search?q=sudo
[07:18] <JoseStefan> !sudo
[07:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:18] <toaks> ok
[07:18] <Healot> clarence: if you know how to chroot; or get linux32 package
[07:18] <total_meltdown> wait... !tell is a command, isn't it...
[07:18] <Healot> !info lnux32
[07:18] <ubotu> Package lnux32 does not exist in any distro I know
[07:18] <Healot> !info linux32
[07:19] <ubotu> linux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In component main, is extra. Version 1-3 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB
[07:19] <toaks> so why would there not be a root user created on install?
[07:19] <total_meltdown> I was thinking of 'Don't tell him about sudo'
[07:19] <toaks> isnt that a bit strange?
[07:19] <clarence> Healot: no i dont but i got wine installed
[07:19] <total_meltdown> toaks: It's a security bonus. Typing 'sudo' every time makes you think about what you're doing before you go and type 'rm -rf /*' into a root shell
[07:19] <toaks> fair enuf.
[07:20] <total_meltdown> You get used to it fairly quickly
[07:20] <toaks> ok
[07:20] <emachine_> total_meltdown, i don't think so and if so it must have turned itself on while it was shut down
[07:21] <toaks> so can u grant superuser to a user or from now on editing a file vi etc requires a sudo prefix?
[07:21] <toaks> so can u grant superuser to a user or from now on - or does editing a file vi etc requires a sudo prefix?
[07:21] <total_meltdown> everything done as root requires a sudo prefix
[07:21] <Shadowpillar> but it is useful
[07:21] <toaks> hmm...
[07:21] <JoseStefan> !tell total_meltdown about ubotu
[07:22] <total_meltdown> toaks: one might say 'sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf' instead of 'su' and then 'vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:22] <total_meltdown> huh
[07:22] <total_meltdown> coolness
[07:22] <JoseStefan> same as:
[07:22] <JoseStefan> !ubotu > total_meltdown
[07:22] <total_meltdown> heh
[07:23] <fluvvell> !ubotu >fluvvell
[07:23] <Shadowpillar> pico or nano for newbies
[07:23] <total_meltdown> Can factoids be multiple words?
[07:23] <JoseStefan> aliases? yes
[07:23] <papo03> Hello
[07:23] <JoseStefan> !-ubotu
[07:23] <ubotu> ubotu aliases: yourself, bot, usage, factoid, list, brain, help, add - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 12:15:56
[07:24] <total_meltdown> I mean could I say '!Java runtime environment is ___________________'
[07:24] <total_meltdown> or does a factoid title have to be all one word?
[07:24] <amicrawle> HowTo create your own GPG Key with KGPG
[07:24] <total_meltdown> or acronym
[07:24] <JoseStefan> i think it support multiple words, but it's rarely used like that
[07:24] <total_meltdown> ah
[07:25] <amicrawle> http://zerlinna.blogspot.com/2006/01/howto-create-your-own-gpg-key-with.html
[07:25] <amicrawle> that is what i'm looking 4
[07:25] <JoseStefan> since the main idea is to have quick access to the info
[07:25] <total_meltdown> indeed
[07:28] <amicrawle> where do i find this mrg for pgp
[07:28] <papo03> hello
[07:29] <ash__> Hello! How can I find out the type and speed of my Intel processor? What command can I use?
[07:29] <total_meltdown> Hey, I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about OpenMosix or other clusters of the SMP-esque variety?
[07:29] <amicrawle> just goto you coamd center
[07:30] <ash__> amicrawle: "coamd center"? What is it?
[07:31] <amicrawle> found it  guys
[07:31] <amicrawle> kpgp
[07:32] <amicrawle> very awsome
[07:32] <total_meltdown> :)
[07:33] <noiesmo> a ? about thunderbird when i go to reply to an email it puts my reply at the bottom of the body of email is there a way to get the reply at the top
[07:33] <JoseStefan> ash__, try: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:33] <btete> hello
[07:33] <noob> i can only boot with the live cd
[07:33] <noob> help please
[07:33] <toaks> meltdown: ok so i go to /etc and do sudo vi x
[07:33] <toaks> meltdown: it asks for a password - which i dont have.
[07:34] <IcemanV9> noiesmo: there is option in email preference
[07:34] <JoseStefan> toaks, sudo uses the same password as the current user's account
[07:34] <toaks> hmm... ok
[07:34] <ash__> JoseStefan, thank you very much! It works!
[07:34] <JoseStefan> ash__, np
[07:34] <julien> orphean, thoreauputic: thx for helping me out yesterday... after a few updates (1155 to be exact) now everyting is running smoothly
[07:35] <noob> i need  a tiny bit of help please
[07:35] <toaks> ok nice - thnks.
[07:36] <noob> i cant mount my drive because im not the owner and i cant figure out how to login as root
[07:36] <noiesmo> IcemanV9, I must be blind I don't see any can you give me more specific instruction
[07:36] <_X-ray_> noob: sudo
[07:36] <noob> ive tried a bunch of sudo commands
[07:36] <noob> im on the live cd right now, thats all that works
[07:37] <_X-ray_> sudo mount -t type /dev/whatever /home/username/Desktop/whatever
[07:37] <noob> could you tell me what to type in the terminal
[07:38] <_X-ray_> go to "harddisks" in "Admin" or something like that
[07:38] <noiesmo> IcemanV9, found it cheers
[07:38] <_X-ray_> and look for the partition you want to mount
[07:38] <jpiccolo> anyone try fear combat in wine?
[07:38] <TeePOG> morning
[07:38] <_X-ray_> lol jpiccolo do these big games really work in linux?
[07:39] <jpiccolo> i dont know, downloading it now
[07:39] <JoseStefan> _X-ray_ idsoftware games do: Quake, Doom, etc
[07:39] <jpiccolo> haha going to try
[07:39] <_X-ray_> far cry?
[07:39] <TeePOG> how can I log everything going through my network card?
[07:39] <_X-ray_> hehehe
[07:39] <_X-ray_> ow wait...
[07:39] <noob> i typed in what you said but then it says " mount point doesnt exist"
[07:39] <_X-ray_> ut2006 works too?
[07:39] <foo> Anyone happen to know a script that allows me to show Name - Time ... ? So I can have friends with their time for their timezone? Hm
[07:40] <_X-ray_> noob: create a folder first
[07:40] <IcemanV9> noiesmo: good. :)
[07:40] <jpiccolo> its not out is it?
[07:40] <JoseStefan> _X-ray_ maybe there is a linux port, i only know about id games
[07:40] <JoseStefan> !games > _X-ray_
[07:40] <jpiccolo> ut2004 does
[07:40] <_X-ray_> nice
[07:40] <noob> X ray: do i just type sudo mkdir /home . . .
[07:40] <total_meltdown> TeePOG: Well, the Ubuntu package 'dsniff' has a tool called TCPdump, which records all TCP activity on a specific interface. You could pipe that to a file
[07:40] <_X-ray_> yes noob
[07:41] <JoseStefan> noob, you shouldnt need sudo to create a directory inside your own home folder
[07:41] <jpiccolo> ha
[07:41] <total_meltdown> TeePOG: Or, you could apt 'Etereal' which is really fun if you have a wireless card - it can capture all wireless traffic for that particular AP. I have fun reading AIM conversations during my English class ^_^
[07:41] <_X-ray_> meh, he's right
[07:41] <_X-ray_> tell you wot.. I always say... rather one sudo too much than too less... :D
[07:42] <xorl> whats the name of the app that is like fbsetbg has an ODD name though. I can't remember it for the life of me
[07:42] <DeMoNSeEd> AlienX, you here?
[07:42] <TeePOG> thanks total_meltdown, will try dsniff first... it's just for one NIC
[07:42] <total_meltdown> TeePOG: But Ethereal will capture just your traffic on a wired connection too. Or just your traffic on Wireless. Whatever you want basically. It has a good filter system too
[07:42] <JoseStefan> _X-ray_, that the directory would be owned by root, and that could cause issues
[07:42] <JoseStefan> then*
[07:42] <total_meltdown> TeePOG: np
[07:42] <TeePOG> thanks total_meltdown, will try that also
[07:42] <_X-ray_> ow indeed
[07:42] <_X-ray_> you should have to chown it then
[07:43] <_X-ray_> ow now that I'm here
[07:43] <DeMoNSeEd> what's the apt command to completely remove all packages something brought in with it's install, example  the xfce desktop
[07:43] <xorl> apt-get remove xfce *that'll remove it and all of it deps) or should.
[07:43] <xorl> most of them.
[07:43] <_X-ray_> JoseStefan, I got issues with new files created in my /var/www folder (apache2 server) I don't have sufficient rights
[07:44] <DeMoNSeEd> he tells it it isn't
[07:44] <DeMoNSeEd> hmm
[07:44] <DeMoNSeEd> k
[07:44] <JoseStefan> _X-ray_, you can fix that with chmod and chown
[07:44] <Ademan> anything akin to gedit available for windows? (it's for a friend, i want him to have just a simple text editor with syntax highlighting, and no i don't want him using emacs or vim)
[07:44] <_X-ray_> let me try....
[07:44] <_X-ray_> erm...
[07:44] <GenitalCombat> hey, does anyone know if the Intel Core 2 Duos can run 32 bit and 64 bit?
[07:44] <_X-ray_> sudo chmod 7777 username /var/www?
[07:44] <_X-ray_> lol no
[07:45] <_X-ray_> sudo chmod 7777 /var/www?
[07:45] <jpiccolo> Combat, they should
[07:45] <_X-ray_> and sudo chown username /var/www
[07:45] <noiesmo> Ademan, notepad+ http://www.mypeecee.org/rogsoft/notepad_shots.html
[07:45] <Ademan> thanks
[07:45] <_X-ray_> but I should add another option for making it apply to the folders and files created within?
[07:46] <JoseStefan> _X-ray_, don't remember
[07:46] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_ use -R for both of those to recurse through and do it for every file and subdirectory recursively
[07:46] <total_meltdown> chown and chmod both accept -R as an option
[07:46] <Healot> GenitalCombat: seek help at Intel site
[07:46] <_X-ray_> I tried... strangely enough didn't work
[07:47] <_X-ray_> oh well thx
[07:47] <_X-ray_> will check
[07:48] <_X-ray_> lol I finally get the point of this verbose output
[07:48] <_X-ray_> ok this should work now... thx a bunch total_meltdown & JoseStefan!
[07:49] <total_meltdown> np
[07:49] <total_meltdown> :)
[07:49] <JoseStefan> np
[07:49] <Healot> Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology - Core Duo 2 have this, then it's a 64-bit processor, hence it can run i32 or i64 bit distro
[07:49] <total_meltdown> Wow, I think that's like 6 points for me tonight
[07:51] <_X-ray_> is there a linux shooter that's really good?
[07:52] <_X-ray_> wolfenstein is too tweakalike I think... something else?
[07:52] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_: UT2004 ftw
[07:53] <total_meltdown> or Doom 3
[07:53] <_X-ray_> ok... can you crack that game in linux?
[07:53] <total_meltdown> they both rock my face
[07:53] <_X-ray_> lol :D
[07:53] <jpiccolo> tommarow i will tell you if fear works in Cedega or wine
[07:53] <_X-ray_> I got fear too
[07:53] <_X-ray_> I mean the game
[07:53] <_X-ray_> played it in windows
[07:53] <britt> so...is Xen like virtual servers?
[07:53] <_X-ray_> kickass game m8
[07:53] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_: Well, UT doesn't need a CD to run, and I have a Keygen that I can wine if you don't mind no being able to play online ;)
[07:53] <jpiccolo> i am going to try combat in server
[07:54] <JoseStefan> _X-ray_, you can get a few demos from idsoftware
[07:54] <_X-ray_> did all that
[07:54] <_X-ray_> I wanna get online tho... and there's a way
[07:54] <britt> i wish HL2 worked with wine
[07:54] <_X-ray_> a patch
[07:55] <marshall> yes
[07:55] <jpiccolo> its suppose to work with cedega
[07:55] <jpiccolo> hl2 that is
[07:55] <marshall> anybody here use xara xtreme?
[07:55] <britt> jpiccolo: really?
[07:55] <jpiccolo> yeah
[07:55] <_X-ray_> what's that? marshall?
[07:55] <britt> jpiccolo: intresting. Prolly wont play on a 1.7Ghz P4 tho right?
[07:55] <marshall> _X-ray_: its a vector graphic illustrator
[07:56] <total_meltdown> yeah - I think Microsoft-only programs are a creation of the devil. Don't get me wrong, Valve is great and HL2 rocks my face, but ffs, it's not that difficult...
[07:56] <marshall> _X-ray_: like adobe illustrator
[07:56] <britt> i mean does the game need better hardware with linux than windows
[07:56] <_X-ray_> marshall: nice but is it as good? I'll get it then...
[07:56] <marshall> total_meltdown: whats ffs?
[07:56] <drewz1> I'm attempting to burn a DVD iso image from an NTFS file system using an Ubuntu LiveCD, but there are no user folders listed in Documents and Settings after mounting...
[07:57] <marshall> _X-ray_: i dont know. ive never used adobe illustrator
[07:57] <total_meltdown> marshall: for fucks sake
[07:57] <marshall> _X-ray_: it seems alright but im having trouble finding tutorials for it
[07:57] <marshall> total_meltdown: lol ok
[07:57] <jpiccolo> britt, probably
[07:57] <_X-ray_> LOL
[07:57] <jpiccolo> britt, look here
[07:57] <jpiccolo> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[07:57] <britt> total_meltdown: and somebody would make a killing producing nice linux games
[07:57] <_X-ray_> yes it's tue
[07:58] <britt> i'm gonna scream if i have to play xKillBill again
[07:58] <britt> or whatever its called
[07:58] <dannyr> when I run apt-get install clamav-daemon - I get a message that clamav-base is not being installed but 0.88-)volotile is to be installed - Is there a volitile repository?
[07:58] <_X-ray_> true
[07:58] <marshall> britt: i dont know about that. i heard that linux only has 3% of all computer users
[07:58] <total_meltdown> oh, definately. The single and only reason I still own a copy of Windows and an intact CD is because I've spent > $500 in games over the past years, and I'll be damned if I can't play them
[07:58] <britt> marshall: but still maybe not a killing
[07:58] <britt> but maybe gas money
[07:58] <total_meltdown> marshall: Think of all the people who -don't- switch -just because- of games though
[07:58] <marshall> lol
[07:58] <JoseStefan> !cedega
[07:58] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:59] <jpiccolo> it would just be nice if they would port over to linux, or just use opengl so people could port it
[07:59] <_X-ray_> anyone knows a good php programming tool? I mean for color coding and such?
[07:59] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_: kate ftw
[07:59] <marshall> total_meltdown: yeah thats true. linux will need games if its ever going to take a big chunk
[07:59] <JoseStefan> !code > _X-ray_
[07:59] <britt> marshall: exactly. I know of like ten people who WOULD switch if games worked
[08:00] <britt> for me though, I dont like how unstable M$ is
[08:00] <britt> XP reminds me of Me
[08:00] <marshall> britt: yeah its all from the same pile of dog shat
[08:00] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_: I use KDE, so combined with Kate, I can edit syntax-highlighted PHP directly over an FTP server
[08:00] <britt> and i'm a MSFT stockholder too, so if anything i should like what i own
[08:00] <britt> but whatever
[08:00] <_X-ray_> damn... I don't like emacs.... just because of the fact that I can't even open a file LOL
[08:00] <total_meltdown> lol
[08:00] <total_meltdown> VI always works...?
[08:00] <_X-ray_> long learning proces
[08:01] <britt> total_meltdown: true, i love vi
[08:01] <total_meltdown> Plus, using VI you look entirely l33t
[08:01] <marshall> britt: sell that garbage 2 months after vista or office 2007 come out
[08:01] <Lard-O-Lad> im trying to follow the guide to making a working installation of Ubuntu on a USB Stick with GRUB (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1229101&postcount=158), but when i do the grub-install it says: The file /path/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.  How can i resolve this problem?
[08:01] <marshall> britt: ms wont be on top forever
[08:01] <total_meltdown> I took notes the other day using VI on the straight command line - no GUI. People were afraid of me
[08:01] <_X-ray_> lol
[08:01] <marshall> total_meltdown: lol
[08:01] <_X-ray_> you crazy bastard :D
[08:02] <total_meltdown> ^_^
[08:02] <britt> marshall: nope. they sure wont
[08:02] <britt> if they are, something's terribly wrong
[08:02] <marshall> terribly
[08:02] <_X-ray_> is vi more intuitive and are there dutch language packs?
[08:02] <JoseStefan> total_meltdown, vi has GUI?  :o
[08:02] <britt> i suspect there is some backdoor stuff going on, has anyone ever seen The Net?
[08:02] <PsychoTheRapist> is there a way i can download flash vidoes
[08:02] <marshall> britt: lol i know there is lots of backdoor stuff going on
[08:02] <total_meltdown> JoseStefan: I mean I didn't use Konsole with KDE or something. Ctrl-Alt-F1'd out of X and did it there
[08:03] <PsychoTheRapist> or are find them cached on my hdd?
[08:03] <marshall> britt: if you have a few hours i could explain some prominent theories
[08:03] <britt> marshall: its real man--and us linux people are the only ones that'll be left after the M$ fallout
[08:03] <britt> us, the cockroaches and Al Gore
[08:03] <PsychoTheRapist> http://youtube.com/watch?v=nanpV0ReqUM  , i'm trying to get this video downloaded
[08:03] <marshall> britt: linux cant die
[08:03] <PsychoTheRapist> does anyone k now how?
[08:03] <total_meltdown> britt: I could actually see Apple taking over the hotseat
[08:03] <mneptok> arrr!
[08:03] <marshall> total_meltdown: for a little while maybe
[08:04] <britt> total_meltdown: that would be nice, I feel like them going to Intel kinda messed things up a bit though
[08:04] <total_meltdown> marshall: agreed - it can't die unless people just loose interest. It's not run by money ^_^
[08:04] <britt> who wants to run windows on a mac
[08:04] <JoseStefan> i got an easy question. bash automatically adds "~/bin" to my path, but xterm doesnt, how do i fix that?
[08:04] <marshall> total_meltdown: but i hear that macs arent really much better tham windows other than hardware wise
[08:04] <britt> thats like me putting a pinto emblem on my porsche
[08:04] <britt> marshall: not anymore now they switched to intel
[08:04] <marshall> britt: lol and a pinto engine
[08:04] <jpiccolo> PsychoTheRapist, you might be able to do a wget if you can get the file name
[08:05] <PsychoTheRapist> how jpiccolo ?
[08:05] <marshall> britt: lol oh yeah
[08:05] <total_meltdown> marshall: I would die (in a good way) if I had a G5 for artistic stuff. I don't know - Apple just does that like no other. I wouldn't use them for a desktop OS though... they hide too many things
[08:05] <PsychoTheRapist> would i go about doing that, that is
[08:05] <total_meltdown> Linux all the way for a casual-use personal desktop
[08:05] <total_meltdown> Windows for Games
[08:05] <PsychoTheRapist> look at the page source jpiccolo ?
[08:05] <total_meltdown> Mac for Art
[08:05] <marshall> britt: is that with all the new macs or can you still buy the regular ones?
[08:05] <jpiccolo> yyeah, i am going there now
[08:05] <PsychoTheRapist> well said total_meltdown
[08:05] <britt> total_meltdown: I actually use vintage mac hardware, a 603e CPU and a overclocked G3 processor running 7.6.1
[08:05] <britt> :)
[08:06] <total_meltdown> ^_^
[08:06] <marshall> total_meltdown: yeah, they look okay for creative stuff.
[08:06] <britt> marshall: what now?
[08:06] <PsychoTheRapist> i hear macs are  becomming as popular as pc's
[08:06] <britt> marshall: oh yeah, all of them are intel now i believe, there are just a couple of G4/G5 stuff now i think
[08:06] <PsychoTheRapist> soon games will be propietary for windows and mac
[08:06] <marshall> britt total_meltdown, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3DCUXswung
[08:06] <mneptok> britt: you want vintage? my Mac Quadra 605 (68040@25Mhz) is the NTP server for the office :)
[08:06] <dfgas> i had a biege g3 AIO running i think it was osX 1.4.7
[08:07] <total_meltdown> I made a few videos on a Mac, and then I made one on Windows. There is no comparison. Like... you can't explain it until you've done it... but Macs just butsecks everyone when it comes to art anything
[08:07] <MTecknology> I need to make a partition just for GRUB, how big do I need to make the partition?
[08:07] <mneptok> MTecknology: you mean /boot?
[08:07] <marshall> total_meltdown: lol buttsecks
[08:07] <MTecknology> yea
[08:07] <MTecknology> mneptok, yep
[08:07] <mneptok> MTecknology: how many previous kernels do you want to keep on hand?
[08:08] <_X-ray_> I'm gonna buy myself a powerbook or ibook when I got enough cash for it :D
[08:08] <MTecknology> mneptok, none
[08:08] <marshall> total_meltdown: i cant imagine how much better photoshop could be on a mac
[08:08] <britt> mneptok: I use a 660AV for recording TV shows
[08:08] <britt> :)
[08:08] <total_meltdown> marshall: lol - I can relate to some of that
[08:08] <britt> and I used to use a Performa 6116CD everyday as my MAIN pc
[08:08] <total_meltdown> from the video I mean
[08:08] <mneptok> MTecknology: make it 50-100MB, then
[08:08] <marshall> total_meltdown: lol
[08:08] <eleki1> hi all
[08:08] <marshall> total_meltdown: yeah not the buttsecks
[08:08] <total_meltdown> >_>
[08:08] <total_meltdown> right...
[08:08] <marshall> lol
[08:09] <_X-ray_> <_<
[08:09] <PsychoTheRapist> jpiccolo, is there a way or a prog that will jus tlet me download the flash movie?
[08:09] <Caplain> whats a good temperature monitor?
[08:09] <PsychoTheRapist> a plugin or something?
[08:09] <PsychoTheRapist> i want this video bad
[08:09] <JoseStefan> !info xsensors
[08:09] <ubotu> xsensors: A hardware health information viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.46-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 200 kB
[08:09] <eleki1> how can I know withc memories I have  (speed etC..etc..)
[08:09] <total_meltdown> heh - that's an iMac though. Those just sucked hard
[08:09] <marshall> total_meltdown: the ones that looked like candy?
[08:10] <JoseStefan> eleki1, running memtest is a quick way to find out
[08:10] <total_meltdown> yeah... or a boob as was once described on bash.org
[08:10] <marshall> total_meltdown: lol
[08:10] <_X-ray_> wow that's nice
[08:10] <britt> total_meltdown: yeah, i also have a Pismo, its in pieces though. And a 2400c and a 2300c Duo and a Thinkpad i series and a Compaq Presario notebook....
[08:10] <marshall> total_meltdown: thats the best site
[08:10] <britt> and a 1400cs :)
[08:10] <britt> and a HP NetServer LC3 with 3x9GB raid 5 array
[08:10] <britt> all in my little room
[08:11] <marshall> lol
[08:11] <britt> it sounds like a data center in my room
[08:11] <MTecknology> mneptok, Great, now... how do I install grub to that partition>
[08:11] <dfgas> hmmm
[08:11] <MTecknology> ?
[08:11] <dfgas> my X is half arse locked up
[08:11] <britt> MTecknology: type in grub
[08:11] <total_meltdown> britt: I have a Gateway laptop with Linux (1.5 Ghz Celeron, 512 MB ram), a Desktop with Windows (Games only) and 3 old 133 Mhz PCs that I use as project computers. Right now they're unsucessfully trying to play nice together and be a cluster...
[08:11] <jpiccolo> PsychoTheRapist, hang on a sec
[08:11] <mneptok> MTecknology: you label it /boot during installationm
[08:11] <mneptok> -m
[08:11] <PsychoTheRapist> holding
[08:11] <britt> total_meltdown: a cluster :o
[08:11] <total_meltdown> britt: kinda
[08:11] <eleki1> memtest86+ - thorough real-mode memory tester
[08:12] <eleki1> memtester - A utility for testing the memory subsystem
[08:12] <_X-ray_> damn I forgot... I use vesa drivers... gaming prolly won't work for me :(
[08:12] <eleki1> what is the difference???
[08:12] <total_meltdown> right now it's more of just a big pile of fun-looking hardware. It does stuff too... sometimes
[08:12] <MTecknology> mneptok, britt, I don't know how to install grub by itself
[08:12] <britt> total_meltdown: wow, was that really hard to setup? Is it actually spreading out processes, like SMP or what?
[08:12] <total_meltdown> britt: I asked that earlier - I wanna try to get OpenMosix running on them so it acts as SMP, but so far no good
[08:12] <mneptok> MTecknology: during install, manually partition the drive and tell the installer your nice 75MB ext3 partition is /boot
[08:13] <britt> total_meltdown: how are they connected? 10/100 is a HUGE bottleneck
[08:13] <pinPoint> hey quick question
[08:13] <MTecknology> mneptok, I'm not installing linux
[08:13] <britt> you'd need like firewire connection or something
[08:13] <total_meltdown> OpenMosix is only avaliable for the 2.4 kernel, but Ubuntu runs the 2.6. I've tried some of the Instant-cluster solutions, but they don't like my hardware
[08:13] <pinPoint> tar -zcf filename.tgz
[08:13] <pinPoint> if i did that ^^ is there a way to add another file into it
[08:13] <MTecknology> mneptok, I'm not installing linux
[08:14] <total_meltdown> britt: Yeah, 10/100. My laptop is their DHCP server - I was planning on it being the head node too, and if all went well, I might incorporate my big desktop into the mix too
[08:14] <britt> total_meltdown: i'm really intrested to learn more. Care to share more info via email? I could pm you my addy
[08:14] <alex222> does SUperkarama work with GNOME
[08:14] <total_meltdown> britt: sure
[08:15] <jpiccolo> PsychoTheRapist, i cant get it
[08:15] <PsychoTheRapist> damn
[08:15] <alex222> hello?
[08:15] <PsychoTheRapist> and i just found another video i want bad
[08:15] <PsychoTheRapist> leonard cohen - dance me to the end of love is on youtube
[08:15] <alex222> is it possible to get SuperKarama working under GNOME?
[08:16] <jpiccolo> ii am sure youtube has some pretty tight locks to keep the videos from leaking
[08:16] <PsychoTheRapist> bastards
[08:16] <PsychoTheRapist> thanks though
[08:16] <Lynoure> well...
[08:16] <JoseStefan> jpiccolo, if there is a will there is a way
[08:16] <mneptok> PsychoTheRapist: look at the page source and curl the .swf
[08:17] <_X-ray_> pfff flash in ubuntu is a mess... still haven't figured it out
[08:17] <dfgas> is there a howto on getting lmsensors going?
[08:17] <PsychoTheRapist> i found one
[08:17] <PsychoTheRapist> but its not the video
[08:17] <PsychoTheRapist> its the player
[08:17] <atroWork> I'm looking for some proftpd help. Server starts but I can't connect. I keep getting "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection"
[08:17] <PsychoTheRapist> var fo = new SWFObject("/player2.swf
[08:17] <Lard-O-Lad> PsychoTheRapist: if your using firefox right click on the page and do view page info
[08:17] <PsychoTheRapist> that was the only line with .swf in it
[08:17] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_ Tell me about it. they audio in Youtube gets way behind the video, more and more as you get further into it
[08:17] <Lard-O-Lad> one of the tabs should guide you
[08:18] <MTecknology> mneptok, Please help... I don't know how to install grub
[08:18] <MTecknology> mneptok, I'm not installing an OS with it, I just need to fix my MBR
[08:18] <melon> is it possible to have different wallpapers for different workspaces?
[08:19] <britt> is there any way to get my old p4 system to go just a bit faster
[08:19] <britt> something doesnt seem right, i remember this system being reallly fast
[08:19] <britt> in the day.
[08:19] <atroWork> MTecknology, do you know what device your hard drive is?
[08:20] <britt> p4 1.7Ghz 1stgen socket p4, 512MB rambus ram, 128MB PCI video card
[08:20] <MTecknology> atroWork, nope
[08:20] <PsychoTheRapist> Lard-O-Lad, i dont see anything with .swf
[08:20] <britt> just seems like loading should be a tad faster
[08:20] <jpiccolo> PsychoTheRapist, try this: http://keepvid.com/lite/
[08:20] <PsychoTheRapist> http://youtube.com/watch?v=UIUQXVkSecw
[08:20] <_X-ray_> wth, do you really need 300 packs to install KDE?
[08:20] <Lynoure> That's one infuriating nick. Are the wideos about rapes too?
[08:20] <dcstimm> hey guys, I am trying to ./configure it gives me this: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:20] <dcstimm> any ideas?
[08:20] <atroWork> MTecknology, gedit /boot/grub/device.map <--- paste that on a pastebin for me
[08:21] <PsychoTheRapist> thank you jpiccolo
[08:21] <britt> dcstimm: might need to install gcc and build-dev or build-essential
[08:21] <PsychoTheRapist> much gratitude
[08:21] <Lard-O-Lad> PsychoTheRapist: View Page Info > Media > /player2.swf... > click save as  that should do it
[08:21] <PsychoTheRapist> thanks Lard-O-Lad
[08:21] <jpiccolo> does it work?
[08:21] <melon> nm - haven't found the answer yet - but plenty of places where it's discussed..
[08:22] <dcstimm> britt, that should be in the standard install of any linux os
[08:22] <britt> dcstimm: not in mine. gcc was there, but not build-essential
[08:22] <Lard-O-Lad> PsychoTheRapist: not sure if the swf will work without internet, it could be getting the videos dynamically :)
[08:22] <mneptok> MTecknology: do you want to restore GRUB to the MBR, or create a new partition for /boot?
[08:22] <alex222> is it possible to get SuperKarama working under GNOME?
[08:22] <Utopiate> wow... busy in here tonite
[08:23] <TeePOG> alex222: i'm using gdesklets, also does *nice* widgets
[08:23] <Lard-O-Lad> #ubuntu needs an overflow :)
[08:23] <Utopiate> anyone know how I can find the devid of my wan device
[08:23] <britt> if i have a p4, is it going to be faster to use xubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:23] <britt> early p4
[08:23] <mneptok> Utopiate: ifconfig
[08:23] <atroWork> Utopiate, try iwconfig ?
[08:23] <MTecknology> atroWork, mneptok, I am on a live CD. I have a partition for grub made, but now I need to get grub installed to the partition and MBR.
[08:23] <alex222> KDE sucks
[08:23] <total_meltdown> britt: I prefer Kubuntu just cause KDE is the greatest thing since the big bang
[08:24] <alex222> Kucks
[08:24] <mkquist> MTecknology - so u didnt have dual boot right?
[08:24] <total_meltdown> alex222 and I have a difference of opinions
[08:24] <alex222> :)
[08:24] <_X-ray_> is there a guitar tab maker and reader for ubuntu?
[08:24] <MTecknology> mkquist, I did, but now i don't
[08:24] <britt> i really like the simplicity of xfce though...
[08:24] <Lard-O-Lad> britt: you could kick up the volatge and overclock that sucker
[08:24] <mneptok> MTecknology: did you just create this new partition for /boot?
[08:24] <alex222> KDE4 will be nice though.
[08:24] <mkquist> MTecknology - ok , so when u installed ubuntu did u move windows?
[08:24] <melon> gnometab?
[08:24] <atroWork> _X-ray_, I've used songwrite (I think) and it's alright
[08:24] <MTecknology> mneptok, yea
[08:24] <britt> Lard-O-Lad: I havent been able to find it
[08:24] <alex222> I just hope they stop  renaming all their applications with a K infront of it
[08:24] <melon> or songwrite?
[08:24] <MTecknology> mkquist, no
[08:24] <mneptok> MTecknology: did you use the partitioning tool on the Live CD?
[08:25] <MTecknology> mneptok, yea
[08:25] <britt> I have a decent fan on it, but its all soft config and there is no options for overclock
[08:25] <mkquist> MTecknology - so its still on same part...
[08:25] <_X-ray_> k I'll check that
[08:25] <britt> i wish i could.
[08:25] <melon> sorry - keep forgetting there's a million people in the room..
[08:25] <atroWork> _X-ray_, take a look at the packages that agnula-demudi installs on its base system, their website lists all the packages and what they're used for, I used the list to add about 30 packages to my ubuntu box
[08:25] <MTecknology> mkquist, no, part was formatted
[08:25] <mkquist> MTecknology - but after windows right?
[08:25] <mneptok> MTecknology: if you resized partitions, there is a very good chance that your Linux installtion is gone. which means you *will* be installing it again.
[08:25] <melon> _X-ray: in the add/remove applications - just throw "guitar" in the searchbox
[08:25] <melon> 3 results :) - 2 involving tabs
[08:26] <britt> i also have a 1.6ghz p4 (or maybe 1.8Ghz) on a DDR board. this might be faster?
[08:26] <_X-ray_> myeah... synaptic is busy right now... with fuckin KDE
[08:26] <mkquist> mneptok, hes trying to restore his windows after deleting his linux
[08:26] <melon> ahh
[08:26] <total_meltdown> alex222: I dunno. I've used KDE and Gnome, and I just like how integrated KDE is. Like, the other day I pressed PrtSc, KSnapShot popped up, and I saved the screenshot directly to my FTP server so I could post it on my forums
[08:26] <mkquist> mneptok - he was trying to install grub as a work aroung to start windows when the windows install cd didnt work to restore
[08:26] <_X-ray_> oh well... meanwhile I'm having a good time listening to Altar :D
[08:26] <total_meltdown> alex222: and I was uploading pictures to facebook directly from my FTP server as well
[08:26] <MTecknology> mneptok mkquist , I formatted the linux partition to NTFS I have a seperate partition set aside, now, to install grub to
[08:26] <dcstimm> configure: error: No curses header-files found
[08:27] <total_meltdown> alex222: It's little integration things like that I like
[08:27] <dcstimm> any one know what package I need?
[08:27] <total_meltdown> plus it's HAWT!
[08:27] <dcstimm> any one know what package I need? configure: error: No curses header-files found
[08:27] <atroWork> MTecknology, if you just need to write an MBR I can help you work with grub's command line. The menu.lst file for grub will have to be accurate, and you'll have to know the device you want to write the MBR to
[08:27] <mneptok> MTecknology: if you want to restore a Windows MBR just boot the Windows CD to a recovery shell and type "fdisk /mbr"
[08:27] <TeePOG> the only bits i love in KDE, are: 1. Katapult, and 2. the public file server applet
[08:27] <kintaro0e> hi guys..whats the difference of the "search foo.com" and "domain foo.com" in the resolv.conf
[08:27] <mkquist> mneptok- he says that the windows disc errors out saying no hard drive installed
[08:27] <total_meltdown> dcstimm: apt-cache search curses | grep lib
[08:27] <MTecknology> mneptok, i can't get to the command line - windows cd doesn't recognise HD
[08:28] <britt> i have a old server, what is one cool thing I can do to it?
[08:28] <MTecknology> atroWork, I think that's what I need to do - but I have NO menu.lst any more
[08:28] <dcstimm> total_meltdown, there is a bunch, I looked though most of them I dont know what I need
[08:28] <britt> with*
[08:28] <mneptok> MTecknology: then i would suggest using that drive as little as possible until you find out *why* Windows doesn't see it.
[08:28] <total_meltdown> dcstimm: Probably libncurses5
[08:28] <mkquist> MTecknology, mneptok -could the part need to be set to active?
[08:28] <dcstimm> total_meltdown, its installed
[08:28] <jpiccolo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGSpv_k8rY
[08:28] <_X-ray_> britt: fxp the scene :D
[08:28] <mneptok> MTecknology: if that drive is failing, every second it is pluggen in brings you closer to datapoof
[08:29] <MTecknology> mneptok, because of driver - i need a 3rd party driver that i don't have
[08:29] <atroWork> MTecknology, with the live CD you should be able to mount the existing partitions, grab your own menu.lst and copy it over
[08:29] <mneptok> *plugged
[08:29] <total_meltdown> dcstimm: 4?
[08:29] <britt> flee xpression pail
[08:29] <dcstimm> total_meltdown, both
[08:29] <MTecknology> atroWork, how do I do that?
[08:29] <britt> ?
[08:29] <total_meltdown> dcstimm: Gee.. weird. I dunno then
[08:30] <MTecknology> atroWork, Can we move to query?
[08:30] <Lard-O-Lad> grub-install is giving me stage1 is cannot be read error, can someone help me?
[08:30] <britt> Lard-O-Lad: yeah, grub-install messed up. You'll need to manually install grub
[08:30] <_X-ray_> britt: file exchange protocol
[08:31] <britt> makes more sense like that :)
[08:31] <_X-ray_> a ftp client that exchanges between ftp's rather than upping them
[08:31] <britt> _X-ray_: oh
[08:31] <_X-ray_> a very common way for scene rippers to get their stuff to stro's
[08:31] <CromagDK> fxp client
[08:31] <britt> cant i use my idle clock cycles for a better use though, like trying to find aliens?
[08:31] <total_meltdown> I love how it's about 5 degrees warmer in my room than the rest of the house. I live in Maine, and we're getting near winter (Ever seen "The Day after tomorrow"?), and Oil = expensive, so we're gonna have to cut back on heat. These computers will be useful in the coming months...
[08:32] <total_meltdown> think of it as hibernation
[08:32] <britt> total_meltdown: you should have a server in your room
[08:32] <_X-ray_> britt: you can always try
[08:32] <britt> DANG that thing got hot
[08:32] <total_meltdown> britt: I do.
[08:32] <total_meltdown> ^_^
[08:32] <Lard-O-Lad> britt: depending on how old it is, you can run SETI
[08:32] <britt> :)
[08:32] <_X-ray_> it's his pillow :D
[08:32] <britt> lol
[08:33] <britt> mine too
[08:33] <britt> i love old servers
[08:33] <_X-ray_> total_meltdown, what are you serving on it?
[08:33] <CromagDK> more heat :P
[08:33] <_X-ray_> must be fun during winters :)
[08:33] <tamacracker> Is it possible to get Flash 9.0 to be installed properly and work properly with Ubuntu?
[08:33] <_X-ray_> nope
[08:33] <tamacracker> booo
[08:33] <_X-ray_> lol
[08:33] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_ It's a personal development server for my friend and I. We make games (OMG CLICHE!!!), and its just a place for collaboration and backups
[08:33] <Shadowpillar> not yet
[08:33] <jpiccolo> on 32-bit flash is easy
[08:33] <tamacracker> fawkin Myspace and their flash 9.0 requirements
[08:34] <_X-ray_> total_meltdown, like a CVS?
[08:34] <jpiccolo> fawk myspace
[08:34] <tamacracker> it's a way to keep the Linux community down those oppressive microsoft loving son of a bitches
[08:34] <Shadowpillar> though you could run win32 firefox with wine, but that's not always the best case
[08:34] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_ well, a little less organized, but yeah kinda like that
[08:34] <_X-ray_> I wan't in on the games job
[08:34] <_X-ray_> lol
[08:34] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_ it's really just an FTP server with some folders :/
[08:34] <Chandu> hi
[08:35] <Shadowpillar> nspluginwrapper
[08:35] <tamacracker> yeah I dont wanna add windows application onto my linux operating system... it seems a bit unstabble
[08:35] <total_meltdown> I'd host my own website, but my ISP caps my upload rate at 42 kb/s.
[08:35] <_X-ray_> isn't kde available on any ubuntu disk?
[08:35] <tamacracker> i installed winamp... and it was givin me problems before
[08:35] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_ Kubuntu disks, yes. Not Ubuntu disks
[08:35] <Lard-O-Lad> britt: manually install grub eh, that sounds harder than it might actually be...
[08:35] <_X-ray_> shit
[08:36] <total_meltdown> you can apt it though
[08:36] <_X-ray_> doing it right now total_meltdown
[08:36] <_X-ray_> fucking 300 files are required
[08:36] <total_meltdown> you just don't have the advantage of having it built in by the guys who made the distro *shrug*
[08:36] <tamacracker> for grub?! lol daaaamn
[08:36] <_X-ray_> tamacracker, I was talking about KDE
[08:36] <tamacracker> yeh good thing mine came with it
[08:36] <tamacracker> KDE?...
[08:37] <tamacracker> KDE what? I'm sorry, I missed it
[08:37] <britt> Lard-O-Lad: its a pain, booting knoppix was the hardest part
 isn't kde available on any ubuntu disk?
[08:37] <orphean> sure. kubuntu.
[08:37] <CromagDK> http://www.kubuntu.org/ ?
[08:37] <Lard-O-Lad> britt: its really only for this USB Stick that has Ubuntu on it
[08:37] <britt> Lard-O-Lad: cool
[08:37] <_X-ray_> hi there orphean
[08:38] <_X-ray_> is kubuntu better than ubuntu?
[08:38] <tamacracker> hm... i nunno
[08:38] <orphean> _X-ray_: kubuntu is basically the same as ubuntu except it uses KDE instead of gnome.
[08:38] <tamacracker> i saw screen shots of ubuntu
[08:38] <total_meltdown> _X-ray_ They're exactly the same AFAIK, but Kubuntu comes with KDE, Ubuntu comes with Gnome
[08:38] <orphean> you can turn ubuntu into kubuntu just by installing kde ;)
[08:38] <_X-ray_> grat
[08:38] <tamacracker> and thought... shit this is as good if not better than xp
[08:38] <_X-ray_> great*
[08:38] <irawan> _X-ray_: it is your preference
[08:38] <britt> run grub, find out what 'disk' your pc calls the USB stick, type in root hd(x,x) (0,0) for /dev/hda1 and then setup hd(x,x) and install i think
[08:39] <_X-ray_> but I want to edit php files in a easy and good way
[08:39] <tamacracker> what's the difference between gnome and kde? just the file system or something? or the GUI?
[08:39] <CromagDK> nano :D
[08:39] <tamacracker> I'm pretty ignorant with linux
[08:39] <britt> tamacracker: GUI
[08:39] <toaks> where would i be able to get the source for ubuntu from? - can i use apt get
[08:39] <orphean> tamacracker: different ways of doing things.  KDE tends to go more for 'feature packed' while gnome is focused on ease of use.
[08:39] <britt> gnome is for people who like thier coffee hot
[08:39] <_X-ray_> gui is stunning in ubuntu 6.0.6
[08:39] <Nul1> yes
[08:39] <toaks> i have kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[08:40] <britt> and KDE is for people who like hot choclate
[08:40] <Nul1> and i cant resize with ubuntu
[08:40] <Nul1> at all
[08:40] <tamacracker> yeah i love my GUI
[08:40] <Nul1> i cant install unless i delete xp
[08:40] <toaks> can i use apt-get to get it.
[08:40] <jpiccolo> when is edgy due out
[08:40] <tamacracker> it's better than xp in my point of view
[08:40] <Nul1> yes
[08:40] <Nul1> but im a hardcore gamer
[08:40] <orphean> end of october-ish jpiccolo
[08:40] <_X-ray_> isn't there a built-in programming tekst editor in ubuntu?
[08:40] <Nul1> im very very new to linux
[08:40] <britt> :)
[08:40] <total_meltdown> tamacracker: I don't even use the XP theme - I use the Windows classic theme
[08:40] <total_meltdown> Yay for updated kernels!
[08:40] <jpiccolo> is it easy to upgrade to edgy
[08:40] <tamacracker> lol meltdown... me too
[08:41] <total_meltdown> Let's have an updated kernel party!
[08:41] <_X-ray_> jpiccolo, how?
[08:41] <total_meltdown> *party*
[08:41] <tamacracker> XP theme sucked up too much power
[08:41] <tamacracker> during loading
[08:41] <orphean> _X-ray_: GEdit with all the programming preferences turned on is a good one.  Kate is the KDE version of the same.
[08:41] <Nul1> not on my computer
[08:41] <Nul1> it costs me nothing
[08:41] <_X-ray_> LOL orphean why didn't you tell me be4? :D
[08:41] <jpiccolo> or will it be easy to upgrade from drapper to edgy?
[08:41] <mneptok> yes.
[08:41] <tamacracker> edgy is a different make of ubuntu?
[08:41] <orphean> _X-ray_: <-- failure :(
[08:41] <total_meltdown> Edgy is the next release
[08:42] <tamacracker> what's the new features?
[08:42] <tamacracker> more reliable?...
[08:42] <total_meltdown> Betterness
[08:42] <_X-ray_> LOL haha
[08:42] <tamacracker> lol betterness
[08:42] <_X-ray_> orphean: don't bother about it
[08:42] <tamacracker> anything added? or simpler?... lol
[08:42] <mneptok> actually, it may well come to pass that Edgy is less stable.
[08:42] <orphean> tamacracker: new version of gnome, some pretty artwork
[08:42] <tamacracker> less stable?
[08:42] <orphean> other than that its not much different at the moment.
[08:42] <tamacracker> >.> screw that
[08:42] <orphean> i'm running it on both my boxes.
[08:43] <tamacracker> i left windows just because it's not stable
[08:43] <tamacracker> in fact..
[08:43] <orphean> edgy will be plenty stable.
[08:43] <tamacracker> my machine has not even restarted yet
[08:43] <britt> im trying very hard to convert my gf to linux too
[08:43] <tamacracker> and its been on for  4 days
[08:43] <orphean> its just not going to be supported for 5 years like dapper is
[08:43] <mneptok> orphean: we shall see.
[08:43] <orphean> its plenty stable NOW ;)
[08:43] <total_meltdown> Will Edgy ship with KDE 4? or is that way down the road?
[08:43] <tamacracker> unlike windows... it'll restart every freakin hour
[08:43] <orphean> i use edgy for all my gnome development
[08:43] <mneptok> orphean: we haven't released though ;)
[08:43] <orphean> except for one system i run gentoo on
[08:44] <bsdfox> tamacracker, I had a server run for 3 years without a reboot
[08:44] <tamacracker> sweet bsdfox
[08:44] <orphean> mneptok: I know I just tire of people equating 'edgy' with 'not stable'
[08:44] <britt> bsdfox: bet you were freaked when you finally did--will it actually come back up?
[08:44] <tamacracker> that's my only true reason why i quite windows... just reliability
[08:44] <mneptok> orphean: that's why i said "it *may* come to pass ..."
[08:44] <total_meltdown> My laptop generally has uptimes of 2-3 weeks
[08:44] <mneptok> ;)
[08:44] <tamacracker> i didn't care if linux looked like windows 98
[08:44] <bsdfox> britt, the isp that hosted it went out of business
[08:44] <tamacracker> as long as it was stable and reliable
[08:44] <skoenman> halo people
[08:44] <total_meltdown> Kubuntu 6.06
[08:44] <bsdfox> that's why it went offline :(
[08:45] <skoenman> do any of you know what the password is for the root account on ubuntu???
[08:45] <Nul1> why cant i resize my ntfs hd with ubuntu?
[08:45] <britt> bsdfox: i just like to restart mine every once in a while, just to make sure everything is ok
[08:45] <mneptok> skoenman: there is none
[08:45] <jpiccolo> 02:45:30 up 3 days,  6:51
[08:45] <orphean> skoenman: sudo su -
[08:45] <mneptok> skoenman: sudo is your friend
[08:45] <skoenman> he???
[08:45] <total_meltdown> Nul1: NTFS support for Linux is rather bad
[08:45] <skoenman> ok
[08:45] <tamacracker> tru britt
[08:45] <britt> total_meltdown: is it rw yet?
[08:45] <tamacracker> hey i have a question
[08:45] <Nul1> what will allow me to size ntfs down
[08:45] <Nul1> there has to be a way
[08:46] <Healot> because NTFS is a trade secret
[08:46] <skoenman> i need to copy files to a folder but only root has access to that folder???
[08:46] <Nul1> people dual boot 50/50
[08:46] <mneptok> Nul1: PartitionMagic or somesuch
[08:46] <britt> Nul1: a nuke will definately
[08:46] <Healot> Nul1: you can use qtparted or gparted
[08:46] <Nul1> im gonna google that
[08:46] <orphean> I would stay away from parted
[08:46] <tamacracker> i like to keep my PC maintained... well atleast my operating system... does ubuntu have programs such as disk clean up and defragmenter?
[08:46] <orphean> and NTFS resizing
[08:46] <AbortD> partitionmagic works great
[08:46] <orphean> from personal disk-destroying experience.
[08:46] <total_meltdown> britt: I think it might be, but it's like running Windows ME. You -can- but when something breaks and you lose everything you care about, nobody will feel sorry for you
[08:46] <Healot> the liveCD has either qtparted (kubuntu) or gparted (ubuntu)
[08:46] <mneptok> tamacracker: ext3 rarely needs such things.
[08:47] <Nul1> i have gparted
[08:47] <britt> tamacracker: i dont think fragmentation is a problem
[08:47] <toaks> skoneman: sudo cp file1 file2
[08:47] <tamacracker> really?
[08:47] <skoenman> k
[08:47] <wastrel> qtparted worked for my ntfs - defrag first.
[08:47] <tamacracker> that's fuckin sweet
[08:47] <britt> thats why a journaled file system is so cool
[08:47] <tamacracker> forgive my language lol
[08:47] <AbortD> NuLl your best bet is partitionmagic easiest to use
[08:47] <tamacracker> ahhh hahahahahah im never goin back to microsoft
[08:47] <tamacracker> in fct
[08:47] <RamiKassab_> hey guys what are some good web scripting environments to use? I've downloaded and played with Quanta. Nvu, and Bluefish... any others you guys can recommend that are good for working with php and various other web languages?
[08:47] <tamacracker> fact
[08:47] <Nul1> i have to
[08:47] <Nul1> i play counter-strike
[08:47] <tamacracker> i wanted to use photoshop... then i saw GIMP
[08:47] <mneptok> RamiKassab_: Gedit
[08:47] <britt> Nul1: were you here like ten minutes ago
[08:48] <britt> we had a discussion about HL2 on linux
[08:48] <AbortD> NuLl cant you just use wine?
[08:48] <Nul1> no
[08:48] <skoenman> dude theres only one and thats E107
[08:48] <britt> i was intrested in running HL2
[08:48] <mneptok> RamiKassab_: jEdit if you want some cross-platform love
[08:48] <RamiKassab_> mneptok: lol well environments other than gedit, vi, emacs, and nano
[08:48] <Nul1> hl2 is awesome
[08:48] <skoenman> theres xoops
[08:48] <Nul1> but cs:s and hl2 deathmatch are pathetic
[08:48] <Nul1> buggy
[08:48] <skoenman> but e107 is the best for that
[08:48] <britt> Nul1: for windows, I run 2000.
[08:48] <Nul1> cs 1.6 is refined
[08:48] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if Starcraft Broodwars will install on ubuntu? >.>
[08:48] <RamiKassab_> mneptok: I prefer vi over gedit if I'm gonna use a text editor rather than a dev environment
[08:48] <Nul1> try cspromod.com in 2007
[08:48] <Nul1> till then
[08:48] <Nul1> hl1 for life
[08:48] <orphean> tamacracker: cedega runs it. i don't know about wine though.
[08:48] <Nul1> but
[08:49] <AbortD> tamacracker: you can try download wine and follow instructions
[08:49] <Nul1> valve will fix hl2
[08:49] <Nul1> like they did
[08:49] <Nul1> hl1 cs
[08:49] <tamacracker> i have wine
[08:49] <mneptok> RamiKassab_: look at jEdit - http://jedit.sf.net
[08:49] <Nul1> i hear its good
[08:49] <tamacracker> but cedega?
[08:49] <tamacracker> never heard of it
[08:49] <AbortD> !cedega
[08:49] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:49] <tamacracker> wooot
[08:49] <tamacracker> thanks!!!
[08:49] <Nul1> but
[08:49] <Nul1> even though all these games and w.e.
[08:49] <Nul1> i cant install
[08:49] <Nul1> or partition
[08:49] <Nul1> ive been trying for hours
[08:49] <Nul1> on google
[08:49] <AbortD> null get partition magic
[08:50] <tamacracker> brb gonna do some reading :)
[08:50] <Nul1> late
[08:50] <mathfeel> hi all, I am trying to boot the livecd on amd64+asus A8N-e+1G ram...
[08:50] <mathfeel> but X-server failed to start
[08:50] <Nul1> cool
[08:50] <Nul1> ouch
[08:50] <mathfeel> error: no screen found
[08:50] <RamiKassab_> mneptok: ok I'll download it... another others you can recommend to try also?
[08:50] <mathfeel> i checked out xorg.conf and see no problem..
[08:51] <AbortD> mathfeel: i dunno i read kubuntu is for amd64?
[08:51] <AbortD> i think
[08:51] <Nul1> ubuntu is
[08:51] <total_meltdown> mathfeel: try running the command 'X --verbose' I think it is.
[08:51] <AbortD> dont take my word for it?
[08:51] <Nul1> im on amd54 ubuntu
[08:51] <Nul1> 64*
[08:51] <britt> Nul1: Yikes! My dream system
[08:51] <Nul1> omg u dont know
[08:52] <Nul1> my system is ur dreams
[08:52] <mathfeel> total_meltdown: unrecognized option --verbose
[08:52] <Nul1> wish i was on gamesurge irc
[08:52] <Nul1> i could spec my comp
[08:52] <mathfeel> sorry, had the extra dash
[08:52] <total_meltdown> mathfeel: There's something like that. -v perhaps. try --help
[08:52] <britt> Nul1: got a Raid 5 SATA II array?
[08:52] <Nul1> nothing thing of my first day of linux . irc programs for linux are crap compared to win32
[08:52] <britt> 500Gb?
[08:52] <total_meltdown> mathfeel: What did it say?
[08:52] <mathfeel> okay, now some error:
[08:52] <Nul1> no
[08:52] <Zuu`> I'll think about it
[08:52] <Nul1> i dont need that much
[08:52] <britt> lol
[08:53] <Nul1> 10,000 rpm sata 3 80gig
[08:53] <Nul1> :/
[08:53] <britt> wow
[08:53] <Nul1> idk shit about hd
[08:53] <britt> okay that'll work
[08:53] <wastrel> language
[08:53] <britt> fast enough for me
[08:53] <Nul1> sorry!
[08:53] <Nul1> u guys have nvidia?
[08:53] <Nul1> gfx is what its all about
[08:54] <britt> :( I have a ATI card, no glx for me
[08:54] <AbortD> hm
[08:54] <Nul1> i wonder if linux supports quad sli
[08:54] <AbortD> quad sli?
[08:54] <Nul1> 8 cards
[08:54] <britt> thats insane man
[08:54] <Nul1> or now 16
[08:54] <Nul1> if u sauy
[08:54] <mathfeel> got error: ATI: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
[08:54] <AbortD> 8 cards?
[08:54] <Nul1> geforce gx2 7950
[08:54] <Nul1> check it out
[08:54] <total_meltdown> Op, it's 3:00 AM. Time for sleep
[08:54] <Nul1> its 2 cards in 1
[08:54] <total_meltdown> ttyl guys
[08:54] <mathfeel> no devices detected
[08:54] <Nul1> so if u sli those
[08:54] <mathfeel> ...there's my problem...
[08:54] <wastrel> ati can do dri
[08:54] <britt> total_meltdown|s: i'm still at work
[08:54] <Nul1> bs!
[08:55] <Nul1> ati is only doing 3
[08:55] <Nul1> which is
[08:55] <Nul1> 1 for physics
[08:55] <Nul1> 2 for crossfire aka sli
[08:55] <Nul1> which is only supported by 1 game!
[08:55] <Nul1> but idk it might work out
[08:55] <Nul1> crossfire from ati failed horribly@
[08:55] <Nul1> nvidia wins
[08:55] <Nul1> but amd bought ati
[08:55] <AbortD> i'll stick with my nvidia
[08:55] <wastrel> what's crossfire?
[08:55] <Nul1> future will tell
[08:55] <Nul1> crossfire is 2 cards connected
[08:56] <wastrel> well i can't choose because i'm on a laptop
[08:56] <Nul1> like core 2 duo
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> please take this ati vs. nvidia to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <Nul1> cept more motherboard adv
[08:56] <Nul1> cause of the nforce chips
[08:56] <Nul1> on the mbs for pc now
[08:56] <Nul1> and that rules out the new mac desktop
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> !enter
[08:56] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:56] <Nul1> lol
[08:57] <RamiKassab_> hey guys I just tried installing jEdit via a devian package and it failed installing and failed trying to remove itself so I went back to the site and added the repository to my sources.list to install via apt and ran 'apt-get update' and now when I try to install via apt I get the following error: "E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[08:57] <RamiKassab_> what does this mean and how do I get jEdit installed?
[08:57] <mathfeel> is my BusID incorrect or something? how do I find the correct one?
[08:57] <britt> later fellas! i'm free from work.
[08:57] <Nul1> later
[08:59] <mathfeel> ATI: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
[08:59] <mathfeel> ATI: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:1 could not be detected!
[09:00] <mathfeel> now do i fix?
[09:03] <RamiKassab_> guys? any idea on how to get jedit installed?
[09:03] <RamiKassab_> any help is greatly appreciates. I'd like to give it a whirl
[09:03] <RamiKassab_> *appreciated
[09:04] <Healot> install java?
[09:04] <Healot> !java
[09:04] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:04] <Healot> RamiKassab_: download the latest jedit though
[09:04] <Healot> the ubuntu package is way too old
[09:04] <RamiKassab_> Healot: oh even the one from jedit's own repository?
[09:04] <ompaul> !timetable
[09:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:05] <Healot> yup
[09:05] <RamiKassab_> Healot: should I just used the java installer then? last I checked I have java installed
[09:05] <Healot> java is available from Ubntu repos though
[09:05] <Healot> did update-alternative --config java yet?
[09:06] <Healot> if you did just run the jar file
[09:06] <Healot> it should install fine
[09:06] <RamiKassab_> Healot: ok I downloaded and ran the jar file
[09:07] <RamiKassab_> I should prob run it as root though right?
[09:07] <Healot> nope
[09:07] <Healot> you can always isntall at you home directory
[09:07] <DennyCrane> anyone know of a way (loop back tunnels etc) to bind an aplication to a particular network interface?
[09:07] <RamiKassab_> Healot: I don't wanna do that though cause it makes things look messy in my home directory
[09:08] <Healot> then sudo for it RamiKassab_
[09:09] <RamiKassab_> Healot: what's the command to run something in java?
[09:09] <Healot> java
[09:09] <RamiKassab_> Healot: if I sudo the jar file nothing happens
[09:09] <Healot> java -jar jarfile.jar
[09:10] <Healot> java <classname>
[09:10] <RamiKassab_> Healot: ok it's installing :)
[09:10] <atroWork> proftpd isn't working for me. Server starts but I can't connect. I keep getting "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" any ideas?
[09:11] <rob_p> DennyCrane, What are you trying to do?  If the service cannot be bound to a particular device, just use iptables for further control over access to it.
[09:11] <DennyCrane> I have multiple interfaces, I want to download multiple files from a single server (so single ip) I would like to download a file on each interface, as they are on different network connections
[09:12] <Adam> Hi. Can I associate *.rb with ruby somehow, so I don't have to put the shebang line at the beginning of every Ruby script?
[09:12] <DennyCrane> Adam: you could, but it would not be a good idea
[09:12] <RamiKassab_> Healot: worked thank you very much for the help
[09:12] <Healot> what's the latest version of jedit btw
[09:13] <Healot> i'm still on 1.4
[09:13] <Adam> DennyCrane: how?  and why not?
[09:13] <RamiKassab_> Healot: wow I'm running 4.3pre6
[09:14] <_X-ray_> Nul1, in the end it will destroy you :D
[09:14] <_X-ray_> I only have milk
[09:14] <_X-ray_> which sources do I have to add to get cedega?
[09:14] <RamiKassab_> Healot: do you like jEdit? I'm trying to compare it to Quantum and Bluefish
[09:14] <_X-ray_> install ubuntu and change driver to vesa?
[09:14] <_X-ray_> I got amd64 too
[09:14] <_X-ray_> but stupid ATI drivers
[09:14] <DennyCrane> Adam: well its a bad idea because if you sent the code to someone else, it would most likely fail, as the gumph at the start is what tells the shell etc how to run the file, having (what I assume) your DE assosicate *.rb with the ruby binary in order to shortcut this is not a good idea
[09:14] <Healot> RamiKassab_: mostly on Java code
[09:14] <Healot> i like the javadoc feature of jedit
[09:15] <RamiKassab_> Healot: we'll see how well it does with php and what not
[09:15] <DennyCrane> SciTe is the daddy, but its a bit flakey sometimes
[09:15] <Guard] [an> hello
[09:15] <RamiKassab_> Healot: yea I noticed that in the documentation so I'm gonna check it out too
[09:15] <Adam> DennyCrane: I don't need it for the DE actually, but for the CL
[09:15] <Healot> RamiKassab_: isntalled the plugin?
[09:15] <jpiccolo> woot fear combat installing
[09:15] <DennyCrane> Adam: that makes no sense
[09:15] <Guard] [an> is there a way to get traceroute display the ips of the node it passes through ?
[09:15] <Adam> RamiKassab_: Vim Rules!!!!11
[09:15] <rob_p> DennyCrane, Well, that sounds like a slightly nonstandard requirement... however, if any site can help with obscure routing, binding, filtering, etc., I think it would be LARTC.
[09:15] <DennyCrane> Adam: define what you mean by associating *.rb with ruby then?
[09:15] <DennyCrane> rob_p: thanks dude
[09:16] <Healot> hmm
[09:16] <_X-ray_> ffs this KDE stuff is overkill
[09:16] <RamiKassab_> Healot: nah I'm gonna sift through the plugins now
[09:16] <RamiKassab_> Adam: sure does, I use it all the time but I just want to explore around
[09:16] <rob_p> DennyCrane, welcome
[09:16] <DennyCrane> rob_p: atm I'm thinking about a looped back proxy, but will def look into it more
[09:16] <Adam> DennyCrane: I mean that when I do ./foo.rb, it would automatically get executed by /usr/bin/env ruby
[09:16] <tamacracker> !cedega
[09:16] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[09:16] <DennyCrane> Adam: no
[09:16] <Healot> my way to associate file,
[09:17] <DennyCrane> Adam: no easy way to do that, that is why we have the header in the file
[09:17] <DennyCrane> keeps things sane
[09:17] <cvt> how do i get gkrellum to display the space left on my hd's?
[09:17] <Healot> i always choose open with, and it's automaticly add the application list
[09:17] <Healot> mime in gnome is a pain
[09:17] <Adam> DennyCrane: the shell should know to invoke "/usr/bin/env ruby" based on the extension, not the shebang. it makes sense: configuration by convention and all that.
[09:17] <PsychoTheRapist> what do i use to play a .flv file?
[09:18] <Adam> DennyCrane: right now we're duplicating information: you need to say "this is a Ruby source file" in two places: the header and the extension.
[09:18] <DennyCrane> Adam: yeah, then what happens when someone uses a different shell? shells DO NOT execute by or associate with extension
[09:18] <Adam> DennyCrane: well, they should; see above.
[09:18] <Healot> PsychoTheRapist: Flash plugin, embed in a webpage
[09:18] <DennyCrane> Adam: no they should; see posix.
[09:18] <PsychoTheRapist> is there anyway i can play it with another media player?
[09:18] <DennyCrane> *shouldn't
[09:18] <freesun> anyone willing to help get wi-fi button working? I have compiled and loaded acerhk and still not working. 32bit system
[09:19] <rixth> Linux king 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:19] <beu> yikes
[09:19] <sokol11> hello
[09:19] <beu> misfire, sorry :/
[09:19] <DennyCrane> or "the art of unix programming" <- excellent book
[09:20] <cvt> is there a terminal command to display hd space?
[09:20] <DennyCrane> df -kh
[09:20] <PsychoTheRapist> i downloaded a file off keepvid in the .flv extension
[09:20] <Adam> DennyCrane: hm, on first glance it seems like the "too much configuration" syndrome. but anyway, thanks for your input.
[09:20] <PsychoTheRapist> does that mean i have to open it with a browser?
[09:20] <ompaul> beu, that is considered very agressive
[09:20] <iceman24k> !cdodecs
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <DennyCrane> Adam: np
[09:20] <iceman24k> !codecs
[09:20] <PsychoTheRapist> can i convert it to mpg?
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <sokol11> i have a question. Im trying to install Ubuntu on AMD64x2 platform and the initialisation stops at some PCStyle rq 7 [PCSPP,EPP]  what is that for and why it stops there?
[09:21] <beu> ompaul: i know it is, which is why i am very sorry that it happened. i was trying to /ver a bot channel, and accidentally tab-completed to #ubuntu :/
[09:21] <beu> ompaul: not wrong :/
[09:22] <ompaul> ooch
[09:22] <PsychoTheRapist> what do i open a .flv file with if its on my hard drive?
[09:22] <Wizardling> Who wants a very politically INcorrect joke? :-D
[09:22] <sokol11> can anybody help me?
[09:22] <cvt> DennyCrane,  how do you remember that?
[09:23] <sokol11> i have a question. Im trying to install Ubuntu on AMD64x2 platform and the initialisation stops at some PCStyle rq 7 [PCSPP,EPP]  what is that for and why it stops there?
[09:23] <iceman24k> I cant figure out why ubuntu would not install to my SATA drive
[09:23] <tamacracker> Um.. for some reason, that gamer site where you download the free version of Cedega froze my PC twice >.>
[09:23] <sokol11> isnt this the official support chanel?
[09:24] <atroWork> sokol11, yes, this is the official ubuntu support channel
[09:24] <sokol11> anybody can try to help me?
[09:25] <atroWork> iceman24k, I had some trouble with installing to SATA when I had IDE drives too. Do you have SATA only?
[09:25] <sokol11> yes
[09:25] <PsychoTheRapist> is there a flash plugin for mplayer or xine or something?
[09:25] <sokol11> 3x sata
[09:25] <PsychoTheRapist> how do i play flash movies from my hard drive?
[09:25] <sokol11> Raptor 74GB Caviar 250GB and Caviar 120GB
[09:25] <atroWork> sokol11, this is usually a slower time of day for channel activity. If somebody can help you they usually speak up. But with 64 bit issues your best bet is the forums since its a less commonly used setup
[09:25] <DennyCrane> cvt: been using linux for about 7 years, I guess stuff just sinks in :-) Also, im a slackware user, we tend to be up on our CL stuff ;)
[09:26] <sokol11> hum
[09:26] <ompaul> Wizardling, this is not the place for such things, nor are any of the #ubuntu channels
[09:26] <sokol11> didnt use linux since suse 8
[09:26] <sokol11> thought that its more user friendly now :)
[09:26] <DennyCrane> to be fair, suse can put people off :P
[09:26] <sokol11> i guess i was wrong :P
[09:26] <cvt> DennyCrane,  g4u. keep it up. :)
[09:26] <DennyCrane> heh :)
[09:27] <atroWork> PsychoTheRapist, I think there's a standalone flash player, but I know it's not up to the current version as windows/mac, it's a version or two behind. Try playing them through firefox with the file:/// syntax
[09:27] <PsychoTheRapist> k
[09:27] <atroWork> sokol11, it is, but 64 bit support isn't up to par with 32 bit for sure
[09:28] <jazzrocker> is there a "hand's free install" version of ubuntu?
[09:28] <PsychoTheRapist> does linux have an flv converter?
[09:28] <Healot> no
[09:28] <jazzrocker> i want to migrate my existing system from my 70G partition on one drive to the new 120G i got
[09:28] <cvt> can' you just rename flv to avi and play?
[09:28] <cvt> i have done that successfully many times
[09:28] <Healot> cvt: realy depends on the codecs used
[09:28] <cvt> i haven't tried burning though
[09:29] <Healot> but you you say so, PsychoTheRapist, you should try
[09:31] <tamacracker> is there another place I can go to get the cedega download and installation scripts?
[09:31] <Healot> ask in #cedega tamacracker?
[09:31] <tamacracker> alright ill check it out
[09:32] <psych0_therapist> what do you mean Healot ?
[09:32] <Healot> I hope they have answer for that question there
[09:32] <Healot> psych0_therapist: cvt renamed his Flash Video (.flv) to .avi and he can play it
[09:32] <Healot> try this first ?
[09:33] <Healot> what's up TeePOG
[09:33] <psych0_therapist> with what?
[09:33] <psych0_therapist> totem?
[09:33] <psych0_therapist> xine?
[09:33] <Adam> How do you convert between Windows -> Unix text file line endings?
[09:35] <TeePOG> sorry Healot, i did /ame and it greeted everyone on both servers i'm on :-(
[09:35] <rob_p> Adam, You can use sed to do that for you.
[09:36] <Adam> rob_p: yeah, I'm looking for a Vim way right now.
[09:36] <rob_p> Adam, Simply cat the file and pipe it through sed with some switches and options, etc. and then redirect the output to a new file.
[09:37] <Adam> rob_p: yeah, except I have to do it A LOT nowadays.
[09:37] <Healot> use unix2dos or dos2unix tool?
[09:37] <Adam> migrating whole source trees from Windows -> Ubuntu
[09:38] <rob_p> Adam, Write a script to handle it for you.
[09:38] <Adam> Healot: hm?  what's the package name?
[09:38] <Adam> rob_p: yeah, I will. but first I want to check if someone (or thousands of people) solved this before.
[09:39] <Adam> rob_p: e.g. http://www.vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/FileFormat
[09:39] <rob_p> Adam, Here's a helpful file that I use as my, "cheat-sheet" for sed:  http://rob.pectol.com/filebin/data/oneliners_sed.txt
[09:40] <rob_p> Adam, Anyway, good luck with it.
[09:40] <iceman24k> dang how do i play video files
[09:40] <Adam> rob_p: thanks (as a Vim fan, I'll probably just use the Vim method I linked above)
[09:40] <Adam> iceman24k: you install the darn MPlayer
[09:40] <Healot> tofrodos >> adam
[09:41] <Healot> !info tofrodos
[09:41] <ubotu> tofrodos: Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.6-1 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:41] <Adam> Healot: thanks
[09:41] <Healot> it's a different package in ubuntu
[09:41] <kendals> adam- dang, not darn :P
[09:41] <Adam> :D
[09:41] <tamacracker> roflmao no way in hell would i ever pay monthly just for a program that will enable me to play video games
[09:42] <tamacracker> that's just retarded
[09:42] <rob_p> Adam, Yes, I too am a vim fan.  In fact, that's about all I use for editing conf files, etc.  I use it because that's what I learned on, and because I know it will be available on almost *ANY* Linux box!
[09:42] <kendals> It sure is! But people do it (cough WOW)..
[09:42] <tamacracker> LOL
[09:42] <iceman24k> Adam someone said totam would play them.
[09:42] <tamacracker> i'd rather laugh at the developers in their face
[09:42] <kendals> lol.
[09:42] <kendals> Well, it's not the devs- it's their managers...
[09:42] <kendals> Anyway, I have a question- my Logitech G7 mouse (USB) is not working.
[09:42] <tamacracker> <,< ill laugh in their face too
[09:43] <kendals> I've tried following the guide over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894
[09:43] <kendals> But it still doesn't work.
[09:43] <Adam> rob_p: that's what's amazing about Vim: it's both the best lightweight editor for sysadmining and such, and the best source development tool.
[09:43] <kendals> Batteries are fine, etc....
[09:43] <tamacracker> totem plays video games that are windows based?
[09:43] <Adam> iceman24k: Totem plays some, MPlayer plays most.
[09:43] <tamacracker> oh nevermind
[09:43] <iceman24k> Adam i'm installing now ty
[09:43] <Adam> yw
[09:44] <tamacracker> ::crosses fingers:: i hope wine lets me play starcraft
[09:44] <drumline> How do I find out if a Linux OS is x86_64 or a i386 from within the OS?
[09:44] <tamacracker> WOOOOOOT
[09:45] <tamacracker> WIne lets me install star craft@
[09:45] <kendals> haha
[09:45] <drumline> nice :)
[09:45] <kendals> will it let you run it tho.....;)
[09:45] <drumline> does starcraft work?
[09:45] <tamacracker> hahahahahahaha
[09:45] <tamacracker> it fully installed so far
[09:45] <tamacracker> i know... i gotta play it now
[09:45] <tamacracker> and see if it'll work
[09:45] <Adam> see if it starts
[09:45] <drumline> nice...  fire the SOB up! :)
[09:45] <tamacracker> :) brb
[09:45] <kendals> how old is starcraft...? lol.
[09:45] <kendals> kk
[09:45] <kendals> any ideas for my mouse?
[09:45] <Adam> 1998 iirc
[09:50] <kendals> g'day mate :P
[09:50] <iLikeSpoons> So, gnome/X are giving me a lot of problems
[09:50] <kendals> details?
[09:50] <iLikeSpoons> the session keeps restarting randomly, gnome-panel and gnome-power-manager crash a lot, and even my machine freezes up completely sometimes
[09:51] <iLikeSpoons> It's started yesterday, even though I didn't change/play with anything
[09:52] <kendals> you running 6.06?
[09:52] <kendals> with latest updates?
[09:52] <iLikeSpoons> oh, also, just now (and yesterday too) gnome-panel crashes, I get a window asking to restart it, I restart it and then I get constant error popups saying that gnome-panel has detected a panel already running and will exit. Then it restarts and does the same
[09:52] <iLikeSpoons> yup
[09:52] <kendals> hm.
[09:52] <kendals> i best leave this one to someone more in the know ....sorry.
[09:53] <iLikeSpoons> the only thing that changed in the last week or so is that I removed my radeon 7000 that is supposed to cause problems with X and put in a nvidia geforce mx400, using nv drivers
[09:53] <Adam> is there a way to load stuff for both login and non-login shells?
[09:53] <kendals> hm, that would prob. be it..
[09:53] <tamacracker> hm...
[09:53] <kendals> ilikespoons- tried using vesa drivers?
[09:53] <ubuntu> Hello People
[09:53] <kendals> hi ubuntu
[09:54] <ubuntu> whats up?
[09:54] <iLikeSpoons> nv drivers are problematic?
[09:54] <Caplain_> how can i tell if my new kernel image is installed?
[09:54] <ubuntu> its the first time i am running linux ubuntu
[09:54] <ubuntu> so i need a little help
[09:54] <tamacracker> It's sayin that the requested file is not found, and that the CD might not be in my CD tray...
[09:54] <tamacracker> but it is
[09:54] <mkquist> and with a name like that ubuntu...lol
[09:55] <ubuntu> i need a little help....\
[09:55] <kendals> lol tamacracker- unlucky
[09:55] <kendals> ubuntu- what help you after?
[09:55] <ubuntu> how can i renew ip in ubuntu?
[09:56] <ubuntu> ifconfig/renew?
[09:56] <tamacracker> yeah :\ i thought i was in luck when it all installed
[09:56] <kendals> System > Network >
[09:56] <tamacracker> i wonder if i can maybe make an image of my game.. and mount the image so i dont need the disc
[09:56] <kendals> Then click on your network device then click 'properties'.
[09:56] <kendals> change it here
[09:56] <kendals> there
[09:57] <kendals> brb guys- need to get new batteries for my mouse to see if THAT is somehow the problem.....:S
[09:57] <kendals>  '<
[09:57] <ubuntu> how can i send ping?
[09:57] <kendals> System > Administration > Network Tools.
[09:57] <kendals> That will open a window with all those options :)
[09:57] <kendals> OR.
[09:57] <ubuntu> thanks
[09:57] <ppxxpp> :)
[09:58] <kendals> you can simply open a terminal (applications > accessories > terminal), and type "ping IP ADDRESS"
[09:58] <kendals> where ip address would be the ip you're wanting to ping ;)
[09:58] <kendals> brb guys! :P
[09:58] <iLikeSpoons> bah
[09:58] <iLikeSpoons> it happened again
[09:58] <iLikeSpoons> the session just froze up and the keyboard was unresponsive
[09:58] <ubuntu> so its the same command like in windows xp
[10:00] <fourat> when doing date in the server's shell console, i says it's 09:12, with php, date() will return 10:12, how to fix that ?
[10:00] <iLikeSpoons> so, I didn't get to see, who was saying to change to vesa drivers? why? Are the nv drivers problematic? Would installing and switching to nvidia drivers change anything?
[10:00] <ubuntu> thanks a lot
[10:02] <IRCMonkeyX> how can i format the drive where ubuntu is ? is it from terminal ?
[10:02] <hastesaver> fourat, looks like a timezone problem.
[10:02] <hastesaver> fourat, which one is correct?
[10:02] <fourat> php
[10:03] <fourat> GMT+1
[10:05] <oga> hey all, i'm trying to get my digital camera to work, i've installed gphoto2 and it seems to be fine (downloaded photos) but i'm trying to get gphotofs to work, if I try to run it from terminal in asks for a mountpoint but i'm not sure where that should be (USB camera)
[10:06] <iLikeSpoons> bah
[10:06] <iLikeSpoons> and again
[10:06] <iLikeSpoons> if that doesn't help, I'll switch to vesa and see what happens
[10:07] <jcml_uk> oga: gphoto2 is for non-standard cameras, generally.
[10:07] <jcml_uk> you just need hotplug working correctly ...
[10:08] <rwscold> anyone around?
[10:08] <oga> the camera does not work as a USB hardrive it apparently uses something called PTP (picture transfer protocol..... it's a kodak)
[10:09] <muhammad> hey i have a question i have two hdds one is 20Gb and the other is 80Gb the 20Gb i installed into it ubuntu and the 80 GB is empty the question i want to make a backup from the ubuntu on 20 Gb to move them to 80 Gb without install the ubuntu again to 80Gb sorry for english itsnt my nativ language
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> muhammad: you can just use the 80 GB without re-install ubuntu. Just mount it somewhere :)
[10:10] <rwscold> oga whats the problem?
[10:10] <rwscold> you arent able to get the pictures?
[10:10] <muhammad>  <fyrestrtr> i know that but i want to install ubuntu into it cuz i will remove the 20 form my box
[10:11] <oga> i can get them from the command line using get all from gphoto2 but I should be able to mount it as a local filesystem using gphotofs (FUSE) but when I use it it asks for a "mountpoint" but i'm not sure how to find out what it would be
[10:11] <muhammad> from*
[10:11] <muhammad> !ping me
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> muhammad: oh okay, in that case -- you can move all the files over (use dd for it) then remove the 20 GB -- of course, when you do that, your computer won't boot because there is no grub on your 80 GB. You'll have to reboot from the livecd, and install grub on your new drive. That should do it.
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <rwscold> Hey does anyone know anything about VMWARE I am trying to get an install of xp going using it and i really just cant seem to figure out where to start ia m totally confused :P
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> !vmware
[10:13] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
 thx alot but how i can use dd :D am still noob
[10:13] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: ok sorry, how can i format the drive where ubuntu is ? is it from terminal ? dual os, xp and ubuntu, three partitions, only one ubuntu partiton
[10:13] <oga> hey muhammad your english is fine but i just don't know how to help you
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: you can't format the drive which is currently running your operating system. To format it, reboot from the livecd, then use gparted.
 thx but it doesnt seem to be good lol
[10:14] <IRCMonkeyX> fyrestrtr: thanx
[10:14] <oga> k
[10:14] <rwscold> muhammad why not just reinstall on the 80GB its a quick install i dont see the problem :P
 cuz i dont have cd-rom drive lol
[10:15] <muhammad> so its hard probe not easy :D
[10:15] <tamacracker> broodwars is trying to install into c:\windows.... ugh i wish i could change it to the proper location
[10:15] <rwscold> muhammad go into a terminal and type man dd it will give u some info
[10:15] <muhammad> thats why am askin abt that if there any command to make back-up  from the 20 to 80
[10:16] <rwscold> "man dd"
 ok i'll thx
[10:16] <kendals> back
[10:17] <rwscold> muhammad i dont know i just know that u can get some info if u do that :P
[10:17] <rwscold> ok so does nobody know anything about using vmware to install xp and running xp virtually
 did that now but seems am silly nooby lol
[10:17] <david_> I seem to have clobbered my Apache configuration directory (/etc/apache2). I'm trying to get back the default configuration, but reloading Apache from Synaptic doesn't seem to do it.  Any ideas?
[10:18] <jpiccolo> what would be the file path to a mounted dvd
[10:18] <muhammad> btw is this tutorial good for makin back-up ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[10:18] <rwscold> muhammad try looking over http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186354.html
[10:19] <muhammad> rwscold> thx alot might it will help me
[10:21] <oga> ok i think i might finally be at the point that I want to try to write something myself for linux i've got this camera and I know the command needed to mount it as a filesystem (got it working) but how on earth  would I get it to do it automatically?
[10:21] <rwscold> oga
[10:21] <rwscold> hold on
[10:21] <rwscold> i am trying to think i have done this before grr
[10:22] <oga> rwscold no problem
[10:22] <xukun> I,m using streamtuner and when I start it xmms can't seem to connect. It just says connecting but nothing happens. The last thing I did before stopt was dist-upgrade
[10:22] <rwscold> oga if u add the line in your /etc/fstab would that auto mount on restart?
[10:23] <rwscold> if u try make sure u back fstab up :P just in case
[10:23] <oga> rwscold i have no idea (fairly new to linux) untill now I have only got things working by copying / pasting
[10:24] <rwscold> oga do u have aim?
[10:25] <oga> fwscold i use msn but can that communicate with aim via gaim?
[10:25] <oga> rwscold join #oga
[10:25] <cochon> has anyone here managed to get ubuntu working on asus t2-ae1 barebones?
[10:26] <cochon> if I use sata and the onboard lan I cannot get network properly
[10:29] <KTwo> Hello
[10:30] <KTwo> I have a problem installing tex: W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tetex-base/tetex-base_3.0-15ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:33] <Justin_> How do I set up a com1/ttys0 mouse in Ubuntu?
[10:35] <s-toned> Is it standard Debian behaviour that the files in /usr/share/autostart are executed, or is it just a KDE thing?
[10:36] <s-toned> Or is it improved Ubuntu behaviour?
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> Justin_, edit xorg.conf
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> or
[10:36] <AbortD> is there a place i can get more themes for ubuntu?
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` and follow the prompts
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> gnome-look.org
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> AbortD, any gnome theme site
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ^
[10:36] <AbortD> thanks
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> s-toned, not sure.
[10:37] <AbortD> is gnome a version of linux or a gui?
[10:37] <ikonia> its a desktop
[10:37] <ikonia> not an operating system
[10:39] <cvt> how do i kill an app [without system monitor; it broke] ?
[10:39] <Justin_> Kamping_Kaiser: I have edited my xorg, that I know --- but it seems that it does not work with device "Serial Mouse" or "Mouse0" and protocol, does not work with either "Intellimouse" or "Microsoft" --- It sends me to an X error screen..
[10:39] <Justin_> Actually.. hmmm
[10:39] <brendonjt> cvt: Open a terminal and type xkill  then click on the app you want to kill
[10:39] <Justin_> Is my mouse on com1.. or com2.. hahah
[10:39] <Justin_> brb
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> Justin_,
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn
[10:44] <adhoc> Kamping_Kaiser always gets distracted ;)
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> i had a parent apeaer, who demanded attention
[10:46] <rwscold> anyone know how to use vmware to install and run xp?
[10:47] <KTwo> "Could not connect to de.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (141.76.2.3), connection timed out", is there a way to try another server?
[10:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> KTwo, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> or change it in synaptic/repostiroy manager (whatever its called)
[10:48] <Adam> rwscold: http://ubuntulondon.wordpress.com/2006/09/04/vmware-stage-1-getting-the-info-getting-the-files/
[10:49] <KTwo> @Kamping_Kaiser: thanks, will try
[10:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> if justin comes back - make sure hes pointing the mouse to /dev/ttys[0,1] 
[10:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> KTwo, np. ubotu might have more info as well
[10:52] <cochon> where does ubuntu install grub to?
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /boot/grub
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> for configs
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> or dpkg -L grub for a full list
[10:54] <cochon> Kamping_Kaiser: I mean master boot sector of primary drive or what?
[10:54] <rwscold> anyone know a simple program that i might be able to use to transcode video files to dvd then burn them to dvd so i can stick them in my home dvd player
[10:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[10:55] <KTwo> !test
[10:55] <ubotu> Failed.
[10:56] <KTwo> !server
[10:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[10:56] <KTwo> !update
[10:56] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:56] <rwscold> anyone know a simple program that i might be able to use to transcode video files to dvd then burn them to dvd so i can stick them in my home dvd player no?
[10:57] <BrianG> tovid does that dosen't it?
[10:57] <rwscold> i have no clue
[10:57] <rwscold> all i know is nero linux does not as far as i know and k3b doesnt either
[10:58] <iLikeSpoons> ok. so, I was complaining about the very recent freezes of my system
[10:58] <iLikeSpoons> upon inspecting kern.log, I found this:
[10:58] <iLikeSpoons> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23300
[10:58] <iLikeSpoons> since then, I've had my machine freeze up every 15ish minutes
[10:59] <iLikeSpoons> any ideas on how to remedy the problem?
[11:03] <KTwo> @Kamping_Kaiser: Editing the /etc/apt/sources.list worked, i removed the leading "de." from all repositories. Should I try to change it back later or can i leave it like that? Should i report a bug somewhere about "de" not working?
[11:10] <Eddie> Im having a little trouble getting mp3s working in Amarok
[11:10] <Eddie> the packages everyone says to install are marked as obselete
[11:10] <rwscold> what packages
[11:10] <firepol> can sombebody help me to surf this ubuntu mirror (or give me another resource online to download it)  and found a "linux-image" for AMD64 bit? i need it to fix a broken ubuntu that doesn't want to boot... http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/
[11:11] <irawan> firepol: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[11:13] <Eddie> rwscold: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs
[11:13] <rwscold> eddie have u tried automatix or easy ubuntu?
[11:14] <Eddie> rwscold: no, its been a while since I last used Linux, but I think I can get back into the swing of things again
[11:14] <rwscold> google automatix and google easy ubuntu
[11:14] <Eddie> rwscold: it must have been an issue with dapper, I tried the command again just now and it worked with suggested packages
[11:14] <rwscold> they are automated scripts that will install most of the codecs and such to get u going
[11:14] <Eddie> :) thanks
[11:15] <rwscold> welcome
[11:15] <XiXaQ> has anyone here successfully used Ubuntu under VMWare?
[11:15] <rwscold> haha i am trying to get xp to run under vmware and i am using ubuntu if that works :P
[11:16] <XiXaQ> let's keep in touch and exchange experiences then?
[11:16] <rwscold> sure
[11:16] <rwscold> u ahve aim?
[11:16] <firepol> irawan, thanks
[11:17] <chinny> eddie / rwscold - I was playing with automatix and easy yesterday - found easyubuntu to be the best although it does still give some errors. Is automatix currently supported?
[11:17] <XiXaQ> rwscold, instant messenger? Sure. XiXaQ@hotmail.com
[11:17] <rwscold> easy ubuntu is good it just doesnt have as much as autmatix has
[11:17] <rwscold> i use both under dapper when doinga  fresh install
[11:18] <CromagDK> this vino applikation, anyone have any experience with that ? regarding wich vnc viewers to be used from eg. windows
[11:18] <led_floyd> hi all
[11:18] <cochon> hi
[11:18] <led_floyd> i have some problems with ubuntu adn samba 3
[11:18] <XiXaQ> rwscold, do you have a handle for msn?
[11:19] <led_floyd> i try to configure it as PDC
[11:19] <rwscold> xixaq i believe i just added u on msn
[11:20] <Eddie> man mp3 on linux sounds nasty
[11:20] <Eddie> on a lower quality hifi I might not have noticed it
[11:20] <rwscold> eddie they shouldnt
[11:20] <Eddie> but this sounds worse than radio lol
[11:20] <led_floyd> but when i run "smbldap-populate -k 0" i had this message: "failed to add entry: Can't contact LDAP server at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 495, <GEN1> line 2."
[11:20] <XiXaQ> rwscold, is it you twenty? :)
[11:20] <Eddie> the normal volume level in linux is higher also
[11:21] <rwscold> to be honest i feel that my music sounds better under linux than windows :)
[11:21] <Eddie> find it odd that it could have a higher line level output
[11:21] <Eddie> hope it isnt clipping sound card output
[11:21] <led_floyd> someone can help me?
[11:21] <rwscold> eddie different drivers
[11:21] <ikonia> depends on your question
[11:21] <rwscold> we can try led_floyd
[11:22] <Eddie> rwscold: so it isnt clipping?
[11:22] <led_floyd> thanks......really i've already post my question......
[11:22] <Eddie> I could try to get my music in a more linux friendly format
[11:22] <drbashir> !offtopic
[11:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:22] <rwscold> eddie every format is linuxfriendly :P
[11:23] <Eddie> rwscold: the mp3s just sound dirty though, theres a rattle in them
[11:23] <led_floyd> i have some problems with ubuntu adn samba 3 i try to configure it as PDC but when i run "smbldap-populate -k 0" i had this message: "failed to add entry: Can't contact LDAP server at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 495, <GEN1> line 2."
[11:23] <drbashir> anyone know of a graphical interface to exim?
[11:23] <Eddie> rwscold: above and beyond springsteens usual growl :p
[11:25] <rwscold> eddie
[11:25] <rwscold> go into ur volume settings
[11:25] <rwscold> and bring PCM down a bit
[11:26] <rwscold> eddie did that help a bit?
[11:28] <RMorris84> hey, i just bought a 3.5" usb hd case, and put a 40 gig hd in and it shows up on my desktop but only had 17.2gb free space, but when i goto gparted, it shows it was a 37.27gb, any ideas how i can get my space back?
[11:28] <rwscold> format
[11:28] <rwscold> repartiton
[11:28] <Eddie> not too bad
[11:29] <rwscold> not as harsh with it lower huh eddie
[11:30] <Eddie> rwscold: time to rip some billy joel, recommend any particular codec?
[11:30] <RMorris84> rwscold: in gparted i select it, then unmount it, then i select format to fat32 ? is that correct?
[11:30] <led_floyd> ......hi all.....
[11:30] <led_floyd> i'm a new linux user and i've some problems to configure samba 3 like PDC on ubuntu server....
[11:30] <led_floyd> someone can help me?
[11:30] <rwscold> depends eddie
[11:30] <NaHuK> hi there
[11:30] <rwscold> do u just use on ur computer?
[11:30] <NaHuK> anyone's intalled VHCS?
[11:31] <rwscold> or your ipod and whatnot as well
[11:31] <firepol> does the alternate install CD contain the "live cd" as well or can i use it only to install a fresh ubuntu?
[11:31] <BiSk-8> hello, can any1 help me with this: http://www.copypot.com/728   thank you
[11:31] <firepol> can i use the alternate install CD to restore a broken ubuntu? e.g. boot, then chroot etc.?
[11:32] <^Down> Hi, when I try to install a program, i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23303
[11:32] <Eddie> rwscold: yeah, might get an ipod at some point, but if I do itll be quite some time from now
[11:32] <Healot> firepol: it contains a more customizable installer, in text mode, and you can install the server installation too...
[11:32] <nol13> no i cant fucking help you, why dont you go call the geek squad n00b.
[11:32] <Eddie> rwscold: dont tell me ipods still cant play ogg?
[11:32] <rwscold> as far as i know last time i tried mine wouldnt :P
[11:33] <rwscold> i just stick with mp3 for now dont use a VBR
[11:33] <Healot> ^Down: get ktorrent from the repos instead of installing from the package manually
[11:33] <rwscold> nol13 HAHAHA
[11:33] <^Down> That's an older version
[11:34] <rwscold> geeksquad wouldnt be able to help with linux :P
[11:34] <Healot> ^Down: did you installed KDE yet? kubuntu-desktop?
[11:34] <henna> meep, small usability/feature sugguestion :)
[11:34] <^Down> don't think so
[11:34] <orphean> I'm not sure what it is that geeksquad DOES
[11:34] <henna> have the full version (numbers+name) in the gnome-menu's 'about ubuntu'
[11:34] <orphean> I work in a computer repair shop and we get stuff from them all the time
[11:34] <Healot> your missing dependencies are in kubuntu-desktop package -
[11:35] <Eddie> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_audio_clipping :S
[11:35] <rwscold> geeksquad comes to your home and calls someone for help
[11:35] <Eddie> It had been clipping
[11:35] <^Down> It tells me to do apt-get -f install
[11:35] <Eddie> clipping is audophile equipment cancer
[11:35] <Healot> ^Down: and you need many updated packages too...
[11:35] <rwscold> eddie ewwww
[11:36] <ompaul> Eddie, don't overdrive the amp then
[11:36] <rwscold> link is bad for me
[11:36] <RMorris84> rwscold: how do i format this hd in the terminal?
[11:36] <^Down> This is going to take forever to download kde
[11:36] <Healot> libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); libfreetype6 (>= 2.2); libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12); libidn11 (>= 0.5.18); libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.6); libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12);
[11:36] <CromagDK> this vino applikation, anyone have any experience with that ? regarding wich vnc viewers to be used from eg. windows
[11:37] <Eddie> ompaul: im not, linux was overdriving the soundcard output
[11:37] <Healot> what distro are you using again? what version, ^Down? you look like outdated
[11:37] <ompaul> Eddie, you can always lower the volume :)
[11:37] <^Down> Ubuntu Breezy Badger
[11:37] <Eddie> ompaul: which bypasses all my amps anti clipping technology
[11:37] <rwscold> eddie that link was bad for me but what was going on?
[11:37] <Eddie> ompaul: yeah, I just did, pretty glad I did too
[11:38] <Eddie> nothing, just glad I turned the mixer well down :)
[11:38] <Healot> ^Down: update to Dapper, please :)
[11:39] <^Down> Can I do that without having to download an ISO?
[11:39] <Eons> hi there
[11:39] <rwscold> well i mean was it just distorted or what?
[11:39] <AbortD> can someone help me with flash for some reason it wont let me listen to sound?
[11:39] <Eons> i need to set a router with port forwarding
[11:39] <Healot> ^Down: order the CD, net install
[11:39] <Eons> do you know some good howtos?
[11:39] <rwscold> eons google = port forwarding
[11:39] <^Down> I'll do netinstall
[11:39] <Eons> rwscold: been there, done that
[11:39] <rwscold> haha
[11:39] <Eons> no results..
[11:39] <rwscold> ok what kind of router?
[11:40] <Eons> iptables, on ubuntu dapper
[11:40] <RMorris84> !format
[11:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:40] <Eons> I've found a lot of scripts, I've modified them to work in my net
[11:40] <Eons> the "wannabe" router is connected via ppp0 to internet
[11:40] <led_floyd> there is someone that had installed and configured  samba 3 like a PDC on ubuntu server?
[11:41] <Eons> and eth0 to the lan
[11:41] <florizs1984> @ led_floyd i've tried but it's really hard
[11:41] <rwscold> brb
[11:41] <florizs1984> there is a good tutorial on  howtoforge
[11:41] <Healot> ^Down: do you have internet connection handy?
[11:41] <Eddie> I just drilled a huge hole in my roomies bedroom wall to run the cat5 cable through for internet
[11:42] <florizs1984> just a sec, i'll look it up for you
[11:42] <^Down> I have T1
[11:42] <Eddie> it looks like I dug it with a spade
[11:42] <led_floyd> @florizs i've read many how to but without results
[11:42] <Eddie> red brick dust everywhere
[11:42] <isoad> ti/e
[11:42] <isoad> ciao a tutti/e
[11:42] <KenSentMe> When i want to apt-get update 2 packages (gftp and gftp-text) are held back. The update manager says some packages need to be deleted, but i can't find which. Anyone have a clue what to do?
[11:42] <Eons> rwscold: uhm, I think i shall rtfma
[11:42] <Healot> ^Down: downloading the iso is better then ?
[11:43] <led_floyd> ciao isoad
[11:43] <isoad> qualcuno che parla italiano??
[11:43] <led_floyd> anch'io sono italiano!
[11:43] <KenSentMe> !it
[11:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:43] <led_floyd> :-D
[11:43] <isoad> we
[11:43] <isoad> ciao
[11:43] <^Down> I guess, i just don't have any CD's to burn it to
[11:43] <isoad> ho un piccolo problema da risolvere
[11:43] <Maennla> hi, what could be the reason that ubuntu slows down my laptop; is seems the cpu works only with 40% power, is there any kernel feature or energy saving feature i have to deactivate?
[11:43] <Eons> all the howtos I've found seems to be ok, it's me =P
[11:43] <led_floyd> non c' nessuno su ubuntu-it
[11:43] <isoad> ok grazie
[11:43] <Eddie> anyone know of a way I can import my settings from windows thunderbird to linux thinderbird?
[11:43] <BlueEagle> !lamp
[11:43] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:45] <Eons> rwscold: this line (echo 1 > 	/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) isn't enough, is it?
[11:45] <RMorris84> ompaul: i added a 40gig 3.5 usb hd  to my system and its showing up correctly on my desktop when i turn it on, but its only showing 17.2gb free but in gparted & system>disks as 37.27gb what could have gone wrong? i tried going in gparted and taking it and unmounting it and formatting it to a fat32 but it says an error about writing the disk label..
[11:46] <oga> hey all, i'm trying to get my usb tv tuner to work and i'm pretty sure i've found the driver (it's a *.fw file) but i'm not sure how to install it
[11:46] <drbashir> anyone know of a linux based email server _with_ a graphical interface?
[11:46] <drbashir> because i was used to winmail
[11:46] <ikonia> none of them really
[11:47] <ikonia> I'm sure some of them will have 3rd party tools to manage them
[11:47] <ikonia> postfix on ubuntu has a setup wizzrd
[11:47] <mrdarcy> hi all
[11:47] <ikonia> no way, I am Mr Darcy
[11:47] <ompaul> RMorris84, no idea, don't have one to work with. Could there be a lot of data on it already
[11:47] <drbashir> exim 4 seems to be the most popular, but doesn't have one
[11:48] <led_floyd> someone know a valid howto, tested on ubuntu, that can help me configure samba 3 as PDC?
[11:48] <mrdarcy> can ubuntu be used in embeded systems?
[11:48] <ikonia> do you mean a PDC or an AD PDC
[11:48] <ikonia> mrdarcy not very easy
[11:48] <mrdarcy> oic
[11:48] <RMorris84> ompaul: how do i reformat it? what about the disk label error, ever heard of it?
[11:48] <rus> is it possible to use dpkg to give a list of all packages installed on the system and the date/time they were installed?
[11:48] <ikonia> dpkg -l
[11:49] <chantra> hi there , I'm having trouble forwarding port with ssh
[11:49] <led_floyd> @ ikonia: Primary Domain Controller
[11:49] <oga> hey all, i'm trying to get my usb tv tuner to work and i'm pretty sure i've found the driver (it's a *.fw file) but i'm not sure how to install it or get it working
[11:49] <rus> doesnt give the date though ikonia :o
[11:49] <chantra> get that error channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[11:49] <ikonia> led_floyd I think there is a wiki page on that, there certainly is on the the samba site
[11:49] <ikonia> dpkg -lv ?
[11:49] <ikonia> (rough guess)
[11:50] <led_floyd> yes....i've read all...but i have someproblems!
[11:50] <Yggdrasil> hello, can somone tell me how to stop the auto fscking or at least change it from 30 reboots. to like 100 ?
[11:50] <ikonia> tunefs ?
[11:50] <ikonia> and fstab
[11:50] <ikonia> options in fstab
[11:50] <Yggdrasil> i dont know whatever makes it run after 30 mounts
[11:50] <ikonia> tunefs
[11:50] <georgy> alineke
[11:50] <led_floyd> ikonia.....i'cant follow you.....
[11:51] <ikonia> led_floyd you can't follow me ? I'm waiting to hear what your problems are
[11:51] <led_floyd> a......sorry
[11:51] <led_floyd> !
[11:52] <led_floyd> i'have a strange message when i run smbldap-populate -k 0
[11:52] <ikonia> ok, your using ldap as a backend
[11:52] <led_floyd> yes
[11:52] <ikonia> good to know
[11:52] <Yggdrasil> got nothing under tunefs
[11:52] <led_floyd> this is the error: failed to add entry: Can't contact LDAP server at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 495, <GEN1> line 2.
[11:52] <AbortD> anyone know why flash is not producing any sound for me?
[11:53] <rwscold> cause the flash is old?
[11:53] <JibberdyFlibbit> Anyone know how to prevent ubuntu from trying to update a deliberately backlevel package?  I tried aptitude -> hold package but that didn't work.....
[11:53] <AbortD> its 7
[11:53] <AbortD> its the only one out
[11:53] <ikonia> Yggdrasil tune2fs
[11:53] <led_floyd> really the message is this:
[11:53] <led_floyd> adding new entry: dc=ubuntuprova
[11:53] <led_floyd> failed to add entry: Can't contact LDAP server at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 495, <GEN1> line 2.
[11:53] <led_floyd> adding new entry: ou=Users,dc=ubuntuprova
[11:53] <led_floyd> failed to add entry: Can't contact LDAP server at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 495, <GEN1> line 3.
[11:53] <led_floyd> adding new entry: ou=Groups,dc=ubuntuprova
[11:53] <led_floyd> failed to add entry: Can't contact LDAP server at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 495, <GEN1> line 4.
[11:53] <led_floyd> ..............
[11:53] <ikonia> stop
[11:53] <led_floyd> Please provide a password for the domain root:
[11:54] <led_floyd> Can't contact LDAP server at /usr/share/perl5/smbldap_tools.pm line 353.
[11:54] <ikonia> use the pastebin
[11:54] <rwscold> Abortd ya its old though windopws has a newer version
[11:54] <ikonia> please
[11:54] <ikonia> stop
[11:54] <cochon> AbortD: flash nit having sound is not about it's age
[11:54] <Yggdrasil> ikonia thtanks
[11:54] <AbortD> cochon: can you help me?
[11:54] <oga> what do i need to install to get "make" to work?
[11:54] <cochon> unforunately I cannot
[11:54] <oga> !make
[11:54] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:54] <^Down> Can you update to dapper without having to download an ISO and burn to CD, or without having to order CD's? Through like an update utility?
[11:54] <cochon> it's just 'one of those things'
[11:55] <m_0_r_0_n> Where do I set the filetype association for the mplayer-plugin? Firefox (Edit->Preferences->Downloads->View&Edit Actions) doesn't show any file type list!
[11:55] <rwscold> i just assumed cause we have flahs 7 and everything is flash 9 now or whatever
[11:55] <led_floyd> what is the pastebin???
[11:55] <m_0_r_0_n> I dont want mplayer-plugin to play alle media filess
[11:55] <cochon> abortd: I used to have to get sound working on flash by closing all apps that were using flahs, restarting firefox and then finding the movie I wanted to watch
[11:55] <ikonia> pastebin? >led_floyd
[11:56] <AbortD> well nothing is working for me...
[11:56] <JibberdyFlibbit> oga: two tips for building from scratch:
[11:56] <JibberdyFlibbit> 1. Use sudo apt-get install build-essential to get all the basic dev stuff
[11:56] <cochon> sorry, all apps taht were using SOUND
[11:56] <zappe> if i run "apt-get upgrade" and i get "The following packages have been kept back" Why does it keep some packages back=
[11:56] <zappe> ?
[11:56] <JibberdyFlibbit> 2. Use checkinstall to turn your "make install" into a deb packge
[11:56] <led_floyd> ikonia said: stop use the pastebin
[11:56] <led_floyd> you talk whit me?
[11:57] <cochon> !pastebon
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <cochon> !pastebin
[11:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:57] <^Down> !pastebin > led_floyd
[11:57] <led_floyd> ...ehm....with me...
[11:57] <oga> JibberdyFlibbit thanks i always forget
[11:58] <led_floyd> !pastebin
[11:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:58] <JibberdyFlibbit> oga: np
[11:58] <gean> hi all ! got problms installing ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop on/over some installed OS... is it ok, that after showing the logo, at item Mounting fs, there is the message: [  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job contro turned off ]  ?
[11:58] <Yggdrasil> hey ikonia is it tune2fs -i 100 /dev/hda5 ?
[11:58] <ikonia> !pastebin >led_floyd
[11:58] <ikonia> Yggdrasil yup
[11:59] <gean> shall i try the alternate-install distribution for ubuntu 6.06 ?
[11:59] <led_floyd> i'm going at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:00] <RMorris84> !pastebin > ikonia
[12:00] <Cashel> hello.. Im more used to devfsd and I need to have a second playback device created.. anyone know of a guide for me? or what I should do.. ?
[12:01] <ikonia> RMorris84 what was that for ?
[12:01] <led_floyd> ok......this is my message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23304
[12:03] <Yggdrasil> ikonia thanks needed that.
[12:03] <gean> please give me some hint: got problems to put ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386 over existing (not really useful) OS. Which is the difference between desktop & alternate ubuntu distributions ?! Shall i install in text mode from altrnate ? What is OEM mode ?
[12:04] <gean> ok, going for text mode...
[12:04] <georgy> gean : nothing but you more choices
[12:04] <georgy> gean : go for text mode
[12:05] <georgy> gean : and delete old os by partitioning
[12:05] <gean> georgy: the problem is, somebody inspected these install tools and protected by own boot loader ``the right way''... thanks for answering !
[12:06] <instabin> Is there any tuts for installing gnome 2.16
[12:06] <led_floyd> ikonia.....have you read my message? :-D
[12:06] <oga> hey all, i'm trying to get my usb tv tuner to work and i'm pretty sure i've found the driver (it's a *.fw file) but i'm not sure how to install it or get it working
[12:06] <gean> georgy: may be that 2nd user still needs them, i'll allow a 20GB W*XP partition, the rest of 60GB will do the job...
[12:07] <Cashel> for my alsa/oss question: please read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23305
[12:07] <gean> ok, ubuntu alternate installing in text mode on parallel notebook
[12:07] <georgy> gean : so let ubuntu make the choice for the free partiton
[12:07] <morphir> what version of xorg does dapper drake come with?
[12:07] <gean> text mode accepted! i'm in the busines! thanks georgy!
[12:08] <georgy> gean : you welcome
[12:08] <Cashel> morphir: 7.0.0
[12:08] <Cashel> or version 11, release 7.0.0
[12:09] <morphir> Cashel: I would need 7.1 for AIGXL on my i855GM
[12:09] <Cashel> well.. you can always install it manualy
[12:09] <morphir> trough apt-get?
[12:09] <Cashel> manualy :)
[12:10] <morphir> that is over my head as to day
[12:10] <xopher> morphir, for 7.1 Id recommend upgrading to edgy instead
[12:10] <georgy> morphir : or to upgrade to edgy : )
[12:11] <xopher> ;)
[12:11] <morphir> what is the difference between edgy and dapper drake...more bleeding edge softwar?
[12:12] <kendals> How do I find out my kernel source path?
[12:12] <xopher> morphir, edgy is the upcoming version of ubuntu
[12:12] <morphir> right
[12:12] <kendals> I just got the kernel source package from Synaptics, but don'
[12:12] <kendals> t know the path...
[12:12] <kendals> ?
[12:12] <jpere1> olaaaaa
[12:12] <xopher> morphir, its still in development, so yes newer software, and some things might not work so well yet
[12:12] <morphir> well is edgy considered stable?
[12:13] <gean> i'm just reporting ubuntu-install: Just 1 keyboard option (US), unfortunately other bought keyboard on laptop; install CD is ``workin' '', but i got the question: boot CD-ROM driver from floppy ? (or so, tanslated fom German... hm bad issue..)
[12:13] <BadManiac> I could use a hand installing ndiswrapper, anyone got a spare minute? /t me
[12:15] <isoad> chiedo umilmente scusa mi ridate l'indirizzo server ubuntu it per la chat?
[12:15] <xopher> morphir, it depends on what you do with it. You can find out more about edgy in #ubuntu+1
[12:15] <rwscold> no thanks
[12:15] <gean> i'm just reporting ubuntu-install: ok, no floppy option chosen... no cd-rom driver...
[12:15] <BadManiac> dont really have a choice since I only have win drivers for my belkin USB wifi card.
[12:15] <georgy> !ndiswrapper
[12:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:15] <georgy> gean : you mean you a have second keybord on the laptop
[12:15] <BadManiac> I got the drivers, and I downloaded ndiswrapper, but when I install it it says:
[12:16] <BadManiac> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: ndiswrapper modules 1.1
[12:16] <kendals> How do I find out my kernel source path? (it's 2.6.15-26-386)
[12:16] <BadManiac> aparently I got the wrong version of ndiswrapper downloaded?
[12:16] <el_pulpo> hi
[12:16] <rwscold> HI!
[12:16] <morphir> gentoo I think is pretty much the only distro that ships with xorg 7.1 :/
[12:17] <georgy> BadManiac : sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-source
[12:18] <AbortD> how do i get root access to a certain file?
[12:18] <georgy> !sudo
[12:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:18] <BadManiac> wont I need an internet conn for that georgy?
[12:18] <gean> georgy: laptop has only a german character set, have no ps2 entry on it (have to buy usb-keyboard). I'm anyhow confused : cd-rom was not recognized !
[12:18] <georgy> BadManiac : yes
[12:18] <AbortD> i tried sudo...
[12:19] <led_floyd> hi...i've have some problem to configure samba 3 + ldap as primary domain controller
[12:19] <led_floyd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23304
[12:19] <BadManiac> georgy no real help then since it's my internet conn Im trying to get to work :)
[12:19] <Cashel> AbortD: what are you trying to do thats failing?
[12:19] <georgy> BadManiac : ok
[12:19] <AbortD> trying to edit firefoxrc
[12:20] <Cashel> what command using sudo didnt work?
[12:20] <BadManiac> I need to manually download them to this PC, and transfer them over, anyone got the link to the right ndiswrapper 1.1 ?
[12:20] <AbortD> i prolly didnt use it the right way
[12:20] <kendals> How do I find out my kernel source path? (it's 2.6.15-26-386)
[12:21] <JibberdyFlibbit> kendals: you can run dpkg -L on packages to see where all the files are
[12:22] <AbortD> Cashel: im trying to open firefoxrc with sudo
[12:22] <henna> which is the current stable version of ubuntu?
[12:22] <adhoc> 6.06LTS
[12:22] <Cashel> kendals: /lib/modules/(kernel) is probably what you need...
[12:22] <georgy> gean : you can change you keyboard layout in gnome or kde
[12:22] <kendals> thanks guys :P
[12:22] <ootput> god I love xubuntu
[12:23] <henna> and canonical name?
[12:23] <ootput> even better was the fact that i didn't need to get a separate iso
[12:23] <georgy> gean : for cd-drive, i'don't know
[12:23] <Cashel> AbortD: sudo doesnt open things, it runs programs with root permission... so pick an editor, say nano, then you can do: sudo nano /path/to/file/firefox.rc
[12:23] <led_floyd> ok.....i want know only one thing...
[12:23] <led_floyd> it is  possible configure samba 3 as primary domain controller with linux client?
[12:23] <led_floyd> there is 3 weeks that i try to configure it.....without any resoults...
[12:24] <AbortD> ok thats the command i used i forgot though sorry Cashel
[12:24] <sphinx_> anyone know if there is a package for ubuntu of cedega?
[12:24] <ootput> AbortD: or create an alias (as I have) with sedit='sudo editor'
[12:24] <BadManiac> Ok, found and downloaded the ubuntu ndiswrapper 1.1 package, it's a tar.gz
[12:24] <kendals> # apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[12:24] <kendals> Reading package lists... Done
[12:24] <kendals> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:24] <kendals> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[12:24] <BadManiac> extracted it
[12:24] <kendals> Hmm....it didn't like that.
[12:24] <Cashel> try it again and if doesnt work past what you typed and what it said...
[12:25] <BadManiac> now what do I do with it? Ive no idea how to build the thing with the makefile./
[12:25] <Cashel> paste.. in private message or on pastebin
[12:25] <AbortD> i fixed the flash sound :D
[12:25] <AbortD> wOOt
[12:25] <georgy> BadManiac : configure, make and sudo make install
[12:25] <BadManiac> georgy uhm, huh?
[12:26] <Cashel> type ./configure in the file with the makefile
[12:26] <led_floyd> @kendals: have you already modify your /etc/apt/sources.list??
[12:26] <led_floyd> if no...edit the file and ability all repository....
[12:26] <led_floyd> after lunch apt-get upgrade and retry
[12:26] <Cashel> then type make then type sudo make install
[12:26] <gean> ubuntu install: stuck in the middle: the error message [ /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off ]  seems to be very popular in google also in connection with other Linux-distros... Any Guru on-line? Any idea? (Else: only idea i have: try all linux distributions i have till one will automatically recognize hard+have correct drivers...)
[12:26] <Overand> how can I use sex to stick a period two characters before the end of a line?
[12:27] <Overand> er.... sed
[12:27] <Cashel> lol
[12:27] <Overand> that's an awfu type-o.
[12:27] <georgy> BadManiac : in aterminal go to the extracted files, then type first ./configure, then make then sudo make install
[12:28] <BadManiac> this is going to sound really stupid, I extracted the package to the desktop, how do I navigate to that in the terminal?
[12:28] <led_floyd> ....bye all
[12:28] <Cashel> cd /home/username/Desktop
[12:28] <BadManiac> thanks
[12:28] <ootput> Overand: brought out the kinkiness in you
[12:28] <kendals> @led_floyd, yeah- i have it set to get all repos.
[12:28] <Cashel> cd ~/Desktop will work too
[12:28] <Overand> heh
[12:28] <Cashel> Anyone good with Alsa/OSS?
[12:29] <ootput> the alsa/oss dev team
[12:29] <Jellegant> Hey room!
[12:29] <Cashel> lol thanks
[12:29] <kendals> but still getting the error: # apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[12:29] <kendals> Reading package lists... Done
[12:29] <kendals> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:29] <kendals> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[12:29] <georgy> Cashel : why ?
[12:29] <Cashel> my problem:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23305
[12:29] <BadManiac> no wonder I couldnt find it, I keep forgetting nix is caps sensitive...
[12:29] <BadManiac> >.<
[12:29] <Jellegant> ATI mesa issue here.
[12:29] <Cashel> trying to get seconds playback device to be recognized by it and have no idea...
[12:29] <Cashel> Jellegant: whats the problem?
[12:29] <Jellegant> pm?
[12:30] <Cashel> if you want, but if I dont know someone else might..
[12:30] <ootput> kendals: does apt-cache show kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386 give you annything?
[12:30] <alexis> test
[12:30] <ootput> Cashel: I have a multi-card setup
[12:30] <blackline> Extremely often I get the message "No picture" when trying to play embeded movies in Firefox. This page, for example: http://www.filecabi.net/rejected/44.html How do I fix this?
[12:30] <ootput> Cashel: what's the problem?
[12:30] <arkham-asylum> hey
[12:31] <Cashel> I'm just trying to get the second playback device on a particular card to use oss... see:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23305
[12:31] <BadManiac> >	./configure gives me "no such file or directory"
[12:31] <arkham-asylum> im using "aptitude download <packagename>" to just download it without installing.. but i want to fetch the deps with it... any idea?
[12:32] <AbortD> !ntp
[12:32] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 464 kB
[12:32] <abursian> hi all
[12:32] <georgy> BadManiac : cd /home/username/Desktop/Nidiswrapper-xx
[12:32] <AbortD> bah some help
[12:33] <abursian> can some1 help me with ubuntu apt-get
[12:33] <arkham-asylum> abursian, yea
[12:33] <rwscold> ???
[12:33] <AbortD> !apt-get
[12:33] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:33] <BadManiac> georgy Im there
[12:33] <ootput> Cashel: why use oss?
[12:34] <ootput> Cashel: I'm using pure alsa for both of mine fine
[12:34] <gbrent> I use xchat? anyone know a better IRC client?
[12:34] <georgy> BadManiac : sorry, i just see you don't have to do configure, just begin with make
[12:34] <rwscold> hmmm ircd? do they have one for linux?
[12:34] <abursian> ok, so Ive used apt-get worked fine. Used to have dhcp. Now change to fixed ip. apt-get gives me all "111 connection refused"
[12:34] <^Down> Yes
[12:35] <Cashel> ootput: enemy territory support :)
[12:35] <Cashel> ootput: OSS emulation, it actualy is alsa I'm using
[12:35] <gbrent> rwscold.. it was made on linux... its the server daemon
[12:35] <ootput> Cashel: so you got alsa out on that 2nd device already?
[12:35] <Cashel> but I cant redirect to the second device, only the main one
[12:35] <BadManiac> georgy ah that would explain it. lets try that then
[12:36] <firenx> i like x-chat
[12:36] <Cashel> ootput: no
[12:36] <rwscold> gbrent what am i thinking of?
[12:36] <ootput> Cashel: give me a moment, and I'll paste my config files
[12:36] <Cashel> ootput: by device, I mean device on the card.. there is only one sound card..
[12:36] <BadManiac> make: command not found
[12:36] <rwscold> i dont ever use irc anymore really
[12:36] <mrdarcy> hi all, does any body know what command should i use in checking my disk space?
[12:36] <gbrent> ircd is for running an irc server. not sure what else you are thinking of
[12:36] <BadManiac> if I download the .deb file, is that the precompiled version?
[12:37] <arkham-asylum> im using "aptitude download <packagename>" to just download it without installing.. but i want to fetch the deps with it... any idea?
[12:37] <ootput> Cashel: oh, then you'd just need a custom ~/.asoundrc
[12:37] <Jellegant> hey, Cashel's a busy tech.  One customer at a time here.  Anybody available who's had ATI / Mesa experience?
[12:37] <^Down> I prefer UnrealIRCD for irc servers
[12:37] <gbrent> BadManiac: free
[12:37] <georgy> BadManiac : I think you need to install it first, but without connection it will be difficult ;)
[12:37] <rwscold> gbrent trying to remember  aclient i used to use long time ago with windows
[12:37] <abursian> Ive used apt-get worked fine. Used to have dhcp. Now change to fixed ip. apt-get gives me all "111 connection refused". ne ideas why?
[12:37] <gbrent> rwscold:mirc
[12:38] <gbrent> mirc rules but there is no linux port
[12:38] <BadManiac> I need an internet connection to set up an internet connection? aewsome :D
[12:38] <^Down> gbrent -> Wine
[12:38] <gbrent> never thought of that
[12:38] <^Down> Apparently it works good with it
[12:38] <gbrent> ill have to do that'
[12:38] <Cashel> ootput: where is the noncustom file for refference?
[12:38] <^Down> I would try, it's just that I can't get wine to work
[12:38] <rwscold> haha me either
[12:38] <georgy> BadManiac : You need some other package to build ndiswrapper
[12:38] <gbrent> ^Down why not?
[12:38] <rwscold> wine works for me 35% of the time
[12:38] <gbrent> remove it and reinstall it
[12:39] <gbrent> ahhh
[12:39] <^Down> I did
[12:39] <gbrent> it all depends on the app
[12:40] <rwscold> oh well i just loaded xp with vmware so doesnt matter too much now does it :P
[12:40] <gbrent> BADManiac: when you are looking for a command you can do man page searches like this man -k [query] 
[12:40] <gbrent> vmware, how well is it working on linux rwcold?
[12:40] <^Down> I'll try in a couple minutes
[12:40] <CromagDK> anyone with any experience with VNCserver in Ubuntu and client on windows ? im not sure how it works when not on same LAN.
[12:41] <rwscold> gbrent so far pretty good its a tad sluggish but i am working on that
[12:41] <gbrent> CromagDK: use rdesktop
[12:41] <CromagDK> gbrent: same as vino ?
[12:41] <gbrent> CromagDK: or use the terminal connector that comes with ubuntu
[12:41] <gbrent> never used vino
[12:42] <CromagDK> gbrent: that is the same as vnc with GUI ?
[12:42] <CromagDK> rdesktop i mean
[12:42] <Cashel> ootput?
[12:42] <CromagDK> ye the output
[12:42] <gbrent> CromagDK: yeah, it works great... the graphics are not the best once you connect but it works great
[12:42] <CromagDK> i eed graphical output
[12:43] <ootput> Cashel: http://paste.lisp.org/display/25947
[12:43] <CromagDK> gbrent: ah ok nice, conf. via CLI ?
[12:43] <ootput> Cashel: this is for two _physical_ devices, and alsa
[12:43] <Cashel> thanks man
[12:43] <gbrent> CromagDK: sudo apt-get install rdesktop    then do sudo rdesktop 192.1.1.1
[12:43] <CromagDK> ah ok
[12:43] <CromagDK> how about conf. port n stuff ?
[12:44] <gbrent> CromagDK: you dont need the sudo to connect, my mistake
[12:44] <ootput> Cashel: why do you need to use a different device port?
[12:44] <CromagDK> gbrent: and what can i use to connect to the server ?
[12:44] <gbrent> ahhh conf... I am not sure. There are many switches at the command line
[12:44] <gbrent> CromagDK: are you connecting to Windows?
[12:44] <CromagDK> no other way around
[12:44] <Cashel> ootput: Teamspeak locks the primary device :)
[12:44] <CromagDK> from windows to Ubuntu
[12:44] <gbrent> CromagDK: On windows use remote desktop
[12:45] <gbrent> ahhh other way
[12:45] <blinky> howdy people
[12:45] <gbrent> i just did this too, I forgot what i was using
[12:45] <blinky> can anyone help me set up dual monitors with a nvidia 6600GT on ubuntu?
[12:45] <CromagDK> heh
[12:45] <CromagDK> ok
[12:46] <gbrent> Blinky: I can try
[12:46] <mtholdenss> hey u know mac osx 10.5 is copying ubuntu, ubuntu and other linux distros have workspaces and now mac osx is introducing a feature called spaces which is exactly like workspaces...
[12:46] <ootput> blinky: likewise
[12:46] <ootput> blinky: have you consulted the nvidia wiki entry yet?
[12:46] <gbrent> Blinky: You have your nvidia drivers working?
[12:46] <blinky> ootput, no, i am just starting to look into it now
[12:46] <blinky> gbrent,  yeah i do
[12:47] <gbrent> I have a conf file for dual monitor with nvidia
[12:47] <lhds> i need a software that reads and classifies fonts in directories, so that i can choose what font to install does this kind of software exists in linux gnomw?
[12:47] <blinky> gbrent,  can i get it off you?
[12:47] <gbrent> Blinky: what models of monitors do you have?
[12:47] <ootput> Cashel: that asoundrc allows me to specify aliases for physical devices. av710 is the ice1724 chipset, and it's attached to my headphone gear, wherease nforce is the intel8x0 chipset, which is attached to my speaker system
[12:47] <blinky> gbrent, i have a 19" acer and a 15" HP
[12:48] <gbrent> blinky: hp 1502?
[12:48] <blinky> gbrent,  Acer is 'AL1916' HP if 'f1503'
[12:48] <blinky> is*
[12:48] <Cashel> ootput: intel8x0 is what I'm using
[12:48] <Cashel> ootput: did you switch do to mic sound bleed through?
[12:48] <ootput> blinky: also, do intend on being able to drag windows across screens (xinerama, twinview,) or would you rather have each display separate?
[12:48] <ootput> Cashel: sorry?
[12:49] <blinky> ootput,  i would like to use it prettymuch like windows dual monitors (able to drag across, yeah)
[12:49] <gbrent> blinky, output: there is a command that can configure twinview something like nvidia --reconfigure --twinview. are you familiar with this ootput?
[12:49] <BadManiac> When I downloaded the .deb file it says dependency not satisfiable libc6
[12:49] <chowdaryharsha> one tell me how to play .wmv
[12:49] <BadManiac> assuming I need all the C libs. Where do I get them?
[12:49] <^Down> Install w32codecs
[12:49] <gbrent> BadManiac: is there a repository that you can use?
[12:50] <ootput> blinky: I have a xorg.conf that allows separate displays, which contains custom modelines (for my monitors) and full acceleration on both displays. I was never a big fan of xinerama or twinview. I'm using a bfg 6800GT OC card.
[12:50] <Cashel> ootput: I have that same nforce chipset card, and the mic pics up the audio out if I try to use them both.... not my main problem tho lol
[12:50] <BadManiac> I dont have an internet connection. I can use this windows PC to get stuff onto the ubuntu one
[12:50] <KenSentMe> When i want to apt-get update 2 packages (gftp and gftp-text) are held back. The update manager says some packages need to be deleted, but i can't find which. Anyone have a clue what to do?
[12:50] <ootput> gbrent: no, sorry
[12:50] <gbrent> BadManiac: hmmm thats not fun, you may have to install each dependancy by hand.
[12:51] <blinky> ootput, can i get it off you? what do you mean by seperate displays?
[12:51] <blinky> ootput, like having to tab between displays?
[12:51] <georgy> BadManiac : watch on http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/ all the packages you need for ndiswrapper
[12:51] <ootput> blinky: i'm able to use different window managers on either (xfce on one, and openbox on the other, for instance)
[12:51] <ootput> blinky: with xinerama, iirc, only the first display has acceleration
[12:51] <georgy> BadManiac : then do it by hand is a lot of work
[12:52] <blinky> ootput, thats not a problem
[12:52] <lhds> i need a software that reads and classifies fonts in directories, so that i can choose what font to install does this kind of software exists in linux gnome?
[12:52] <instabin> how do i get the window list in gnome to do 2 rows
[12:53] <gbrent> Blinky: did type of display did you want?
[12:53] <ootput> blinky: my xorg.conf:  http://pastebin.ca/168823
[12:53] <Cashel> instabin: you mean the panel that tells you which windows are open?
[12:53] <instabin> Yes
[12:53] <blinky> gbrent, i want it to be prettymuch like windows. one off to the side, so just drag stuff between them
[12:53] <ootput> blinky: the modelines allow me to manuall specify the refresh rates at the desired resolutions on either monitor
[12:53] <BadManiac> linux easy to use my butt :p
[12:54] <Cashel> instabin: right click on it, properties, and increase its size .. like from 24 to 48
[12:54] <BadManiac> wont be today got work to do. Ill bve back later for some more help, we'll get my wifi working.
[12:54] <gbrent> blinky: i did xinerama and its kinda like that
[12:54] <instabin> Cashel I did but it still would only display one row
[12:54] <Cashel> instabin: make it bigger until its 2
[12:54] <BadManiac> thanks for all your help so far everyone, especially georgy and gbrent
[12:54] <rwscold> gbrent just did some more tweeking and xp is now running flawlessly under vmware
[12:55] <gbrent> BadManiac: no prob, anytime
[12:55] <blinky> ootput, yeah well these need different resolutions and refresh rates..
[12:55] <instabin> Cashel 50 worked
[12:55] <gbrent> rwscold: sweet: is there a repository for vmware?
[12:55] <Cashel> instabin: good deal :)
[12:55] <georgy> BadManiac : ok, but try to get a cable internet connection, it will be eays then
[12:55] <instabin> Cashel: Tanks
[12:55] <Cashel> np
[12:55] <instabin> Cashel: Thanks
[12:55] <Leovinus> hi
[12:55] <blinky> ootput, gbrent, could i download/install xinerama through synaptic?
[12:56] <Leovinus> i am am getting this error when compiling a driver, what does it mean
[12:56] <Leovinus> ptaylor@taylorworld:~/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module$ make make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/ptaylor/RT73_Linux_STA_Dr v1.0.3.6/Module modules
[12:56] <Leovinus> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:56] <Leovinus> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[12:56] <Leovinus> ptaylor@taylorworld:~/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module$
[12:56] <gbrent> blinky: no... you have to change your xorg.conf file
[12:56] <jellegan1> hello, room
[12:56] <rwscold> vmware player is under synaptic but to do what i did u need server
[12:56] <ootput> blinky: ubuntu can (and most likely will) incorrectly detect the optimal refreshrate for a particular resolution. It's up to you to add the right modeline (google for modeline xorg generator, or something)
[12:56] <Adam> What sort of voice-communication solutions do I have for communicating with friends running Windows?
[12:56] <Adam> I'm using AMD64
[12:57] <georgy> Adam : skype
[12:57] <mrdarcy> can someone help me view my disk space?
[12:57] <smelly_sox> Leovinus: U need to install the kernel source
[12:57] <Leovinus> what do i do
[12:57] <Adam> georgy: no available for AMD64
[12:57] <jpjacobs> mrdarcy, do df -h in a console
[12:57] <rwscold> gbrent: check this site out its the best one i saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[12:57] <ootput> blinky: no, that's not an apt feature. The nvidia site has documentation on setting up xinerama/twinview in Linux
[12:57] <Leovinus> so, sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[12:57] <georgy> Adam : ok, then try gnomemeeting
[12:57] <smelly_sox> apt-get or synaptic
[12:58] <Z33> Hello...?
[12:58] <blinky> gbrent, ootput, thanks ill look into xinerama and will probly be back if i need more help. for now i need to go
[12:58] <smelly_sox> make sure that the source matches your kernel version
[12:58] <gbrent> blinky: you will need to find your max and min screen resolutions for each monitor. Same with the refresh rates. to get those you can search all over the place or you can do this command with one monitor hooked up then do the other monitor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:58] <gbrent> blinky: your xorg.conf file is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <ootput> gbrent: xorg can be wrong though
[12:58] <blinky> gbrent, yeah
[12:58] <Adam> georgy: unfortunately current Windows installation for Ekiga (formerly gnomemeeting) requires a lot of knowledge... but thanks anyway for your help.
[12:59] <Z33> Any 1 here
[12:59] <gbrent> ootput, blinky: thats why you always want to backup your current xorg.conf file
[12:59] <blinky> gbrent,  ill look up the min/max reso and refresh rates in the manuals or something
[12:59] <blinky> gbrent,  yeah will do
[12:59] <noomz> Help me plz! GNOME doesn't start without root account...
[12:59] <blinky> gbrent, ootput, ive gotta go. thanks for the help
[12:59] <gbrent> np
[01:00] <noomz> It's to look at .xsession-errors
[01:00] <georgy> Adam : in windows you can use netmeeting, i think
[01:00] <gbrent> noomz: who do you try to log in as>
[01:00] <Leovinus> thanks
[01:00] <Adam> georgy: interesting, I'll look into it. thanks
[01:00] <smelly_sox> Cheers Leovinus
[01:00] <gbrent> adam: what are you doing in windows?/
[01:00] <noomz> gbrent: icant log in with my account
[01:00] <noomz> or any acoount
[01:01] <instabin> noomz: I belive you have to reinstall
[01:01] <gbrent> help me out here #ubuntu: home dir is chmod 770 right?
[01:01] <noomz> But when I try 'root' It work properly
[01:01] <blackline> Im having repos-problems, I get errors when trying to do update apt. I dumped the output here: http://pastebin.ca/168826 together with my sources.list Someone that could help me out?
[01:01] <amee2k> can someone please confirm that de.archive.ubuntu.com (141.76.2.3) is down
[01:01] <instabin> noomz : if you can log in with root create a new user
[01:01] <sphorbis> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu, I've tried what all the forums say to do, but Xwin will still NOT start
[01:01] <noomz> instabin: i try it already but it give same result
[01:02] <noomz> only root can startx
[01:02] <georgy> gbrent : right
[01:02] <instabin> useradd johndoe
[01:02] <zyclop> sphorbis: try to explain your problem from the begining
[01:02] <instabin> dosent work?
[01:02] <gbrent> noomz try to chmod 770 -R /home/noomz
[01:03] <instabin> Can you log in to terminal with the other users
[01:03] <smelly_sox> amee2k: can't ping 141.76.2.3 - it's offline I reckon
[01:03] <noomz> can add bt cant start GNOME
[01:03] <ootput> blackline: nothing you can do but to wait for fixes at the se.archive.ubuntu.com end
[01:03] <amee2k> blackline: did you just try again? MD5 error are often temporarily caused by repo updates
[01:03] <instabin> noomz: can you log in to a termail with the other users
[01:03] <amee2k> smelly_sox: ty
[01:03] <noomz> instabin: yes
[01:03] <georgy> gbrent : or maybe chown -R username:group ?
[01:03] <instabin> noomz : what error do you get when you type startx
[01:04] <gbrent> yes that may help too...
[01:04] <blackline> amee2k no still the same. but the it isnt my settings thats wrong then?
[01:04] <noomz> i will paste URL of '.xsession-errors' soon
[01:04] <sphorbis> zyclop: it says there is an error with my video card then i type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 and then 'startx'
[01:04] <gbrent> noomz: delete your .ICEAutority files
[01:04] <georgy> gbrent : get it same error on some kde installion
[01:04] <gbrent> noomz: del your .gnome2 also
[01:04] <noomz> gbrent: where?
[01:04] <gbrent> in home dir
[01:04] <zithowa> hi, i am trying to install CMUCL for ubuntu breezy,  i have version 19a installed via apt-get, but i cannot seem to upgrade it to 19c
[01:04] <gbrent> you have to show hidden files
[01:04] <noomz> ok, i will try it
[01:05] <zyclop> sphorbis: what exactly does the message say and what kind of video card do you have?
[01:05] <gbrent> georgy: same as noomz?
[01:05] <georgy> gbrent : yes, only root can startx
[01:05] <amee2k> blackline: at first glance i don't think so, config looks good. maybe try again later
[01:05] <sphorbis> zyclop: well it tells me there are no screens and i have a GeForce FX 5600
[01:05] <georgy> gbrent : so we did a chown -R on .kde, and it was working
[01:06] <gbrent> georgy, noomz: you need to chmod on your /etc/X11 dir maybe
[01:06] <gbrent> georgy: so your is working now?
[01:06] <georgy> gbrent : yes, like a charme ;)
[01:07] <gbrent> i think you can del your .gnome but I am not sure. I know your .gnome2 can be deleted
[01:07] <zyclop> GeForce cards are supported, so that's unlikely to be the source of the error
[01:07] <silent_scream> hi ppl
[01:07] <Aji1> hi ppl
[01:07] <mikeconcepts> I suspect one of the files in var/lib/apt/lists is corrupt, how do I delete it and will it get recreated with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:07] <Aji1> I need some help
[01:08] <sphorbis> zyclop: i've had ubuntu on here before, this cd is only like 2 months old
[01:08] <noomz> gbrent: here is my error: http://pastebin.ca/168830
[01:08] <silent_scream> how can i make the vlc player the default player for mozilla firefox for flash pages??
[01:08] <Aji1> my atheros wireless lan is not working with ubuntu
[01:08] <zyclop> sphorbis: so, what exactly does the error say? what text does appear on the screen?
[01:09] <gbrent> blinky: looks like you are having permissions denied on your temp firectory
[01:09] <gbrent> directory
[01:09] <sphorbis> zyclop: i cant exactly remember atm, but to the effect of my video card is not properly config'd
[01:09] <noomz> gbrent: so what to do?
[01:09] <sphorbis> zyclop: i've had the problem before but with this new xorg shit all over the internet i cant find where i found the answer before
[01:09] <gbrent> blinky: no i am lost with that perhaps ootput may have an idea
[01:10] <gbrent> blinky: what are the permissions on your /tmp dir?
[01:10] <Aji1> could some1 help me with my wireless issue?
[01:10] <gbrent> Ajil: whats up?
[01:10] <Aji1> gbrent: hey
[01:10] <mikeconcepts> gbreny: I suspect one of the files in var/lib/apt/lists is corrupt, how do I delete it and will it get recreated with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:10] <rene32> Hey folks! I am new to Ubuntu, like it but before I click "install" I would like to be sure that my Sony Vaio notebook will run wi-fi with WPA. Any place to check this *before* I install ubuntu?
[01:10] <noomz> gbrent: 000 on tmp
[01:10] <noomz> what to set
[01:11] <Aji1> gbrent: My atheros works perfectly with windows, but it does not work in ubuntu
[01:11] <CromagDK> gbrent: you didnt had any info on the WindowsClient to UbuntuServer vnc deal ?
[01:11] <gbrent> noomz: there is your issue: mine is drwxrwxrwt
[01:11] <zyclop> sphorbis: googling for the exact error message might help, but you'd have to reinstall ubuntu to get that.
[01:11] <gbrent> CromagDK: windows to Ubuntu?
[01:11] <CromagDK> yes
[01:12] <gbrent> CromagDK: go Ubuntu to Windows :)
[01:12] <CromagDK> cant
[01:12] <CromagDK> from work to home
[01:12] <gbrent> CromagDK: well i did VNC but...
[01:12] <CromagDK> work = windows
[01:12] <dsatch> rene32: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Sony
[01:12] <sphorbis> zyclop: thanks anyways, i just dont wanna do that
[01:12] <gbrent> there might be something at ubuntuguide.org. that site is great for stuiff like this
[01:12] <CromagDK> yeah
[01:12] <dsatch> rene32: people who have Sony's and their experiences are on there
[01:13] <CromagDK> i also searched some :)
[01:13] <CromagDK> but gonna try again :)
[01:13] <CromagDK> thnkx :)
[01:13] <gbrent> Ajil: I am not the expert with that perhaps someone else can help Ajil?
[01:13] <Aji1> okay
[01:13] <zyclop> sphorbis: i guess, you have to keep searching the net for the site that helped you earlyer.
[01:13] <Aji1> gbrent: do you any1 whos good at wireless
[01:13] <rene32> dsatch, thx. unfortunately my model isn't listed there
[01:13] <gbrent> Ajil: how do you know its not working?
[01:14] <ootput> gbrent: hm?
[01:14] <Aji1> gbrent: I does not show up in Networking
[01:14] <gbrent> aahhh you probably dont have the drivers installed for it
[01:14] <gbrent> ootput?
[01:14] <gbrent>  whats hm?
[01:15] <Aji1> gbrent: I have installed the madwifi drivers but no luck
[01:15] <rene32> I wpa_supplicant the only way to get wi-fi with WPA running?
[01:15] <gbrent> Ajil: what type of card is it?
[01:15] <ootput> gbrent: is blinky messaging you?
[01:15] <Aji1> gbrent: atheros
[01:15] <dsatch> rene32: are you running the Live CD? If you are, you might be able to test it under Network settings from the CD
[01:15] <gbrent> ootput n ot anymore
[01:15] <dsatch> what's the model?
[01:15] <gbrent> Ajil I can look and see if I can find anythin on it
[01:16] <gbrent> yeah model ajil?
[01:16] <Aji1> gbrent: thanks. How can i get in touch with you. I dont know the exact model right now.
[01:16] <gbrent> ootput: his /tmp was chmod 000
[01:17] <rene32> dsatch: Yes, I am. Dod you mean System/administration/networking?
[01:17] <gbrent> Ajil: me or others can help you in here easily
[01:17] <ootput> gbrent: oh heh
[01:17] <rpedro> anyone here tried fireflier ?
[01:17] <gbrent> yeah i told him 777 as mine is
[01:17] <gbrent> then he disapeared
[01:17] <rene32> dsatch: Model is sony PCG-R600HMP.
[01:17] <Aji1> gbrent: will come back with more details. thanks
[01:17] <gbrent> ajil np
[01:17] <dsatch> rene32: yeah, often it will show up in the list of network devices in there and you can attempt to configure it without installing Ubuntu
[01:18] <dsatch> rene32: be mindful that it won't support WPA or WPA2 out of the box though
[01:18] <rene32> dsatch: I tried that already but WEP is the only encryption method that I get.
[01:18] <gbrent> be right back everyone
[01:18] <rene32> dsatch: That is the problem. I definitely want WPA
[01:18] <gbrent> anyone have a lighter? my matches are gone
[01:19] <mikeconcepts> gbreny: I suspect one of the files in var/lib/apt/lists is corrupt, how do I delete it and will it get recreated with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:19] <georgy> gbrent : run fast ;)
[01:19] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: I suspect one of the files in var/lib/apt/lists is corrupt, how do I delete it and will it get recreated with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:19] <dsatch> rene32: I had your problem
[01:19] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: no wonder you were ignoring me
[01:20] <mikeconcepts> had you nic wrong
[01:20] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: move it then try to do the update and see :)
[01:20] <dsatch> rene32: once you install it though, if thats the only problem (i.e. it is otherwise supported) then you can get gnome-network-manager as a simple install which gives you all the options
[01:20] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: will I have permissions to move it?
[01:21] <rene32> dsatch: So you mean, once it is installed, it is very likely to work (with some configuration)?
[01:21] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: what file do you think it is?
[01:21] <silent_scream> how can i make the vlc player the default player for mozilla firefox for flash pages??
[01:21] <zyclop> could someone please ping de.archive.ubuntu.com?
[01:21] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper...
[01:22] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:22] <dsatch> rene32: I'd like to say that, but it's a touch and go thing, there's a chance it won't as well
[01:22] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:23] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: sudo apt-get update
[01:23] <fooadd> zyclop, no reply....
[01:23] <gbrent> do those in order
[01:23] <xpapa> hello , little question, i have no console (ALT+F1..F6 on my laptop with nvidia 7600 go and the nvidia-glx .. any idea ?
[01:23] <zyclop> fooadd: thanks
[01:23] <gbrent> xpapa: its a known bug
[01:23] <CromagDK> no console ?
[01:23] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: I was getting an error as a result of this repository so I removed it from my sources.list and doing that eliminated the error, but now today there is an update for gftp that won't install since it is dependant on llubuntui
[01:23] <zyclop> i guess I'll have to wait until its up again
[01:24] <xpapa> i can switch .. no cursor ... no login
[01:24] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: sec.... I might have something for you
[01:24] <fooadd> zyclop,  try es.archive.ubuntu.com ;)
[01:24] <georgy> silent_scream : install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:24] <rene32> dsatch: I have this integrated wi-fi which (under windows) supports WEP only. And I have a PCMCIA card which (under windows) supports WPA (D-Link AirPlusG+). So I guess, I have 2 tries to get it working. If gnome-network-manager is the tool which gets this configured, I'll give it a try.
[01:24] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: hence I want to delete that file and replace the line in sources.list
[01:24] <instabin> !smbmount
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <xpapa> and when i switch to xgl then i have many artefacts on display and nvidia-settings can't find any gpu
[01:24] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: what is the repo?
[01:24] <instabin> what do i have to install to mount smb shares
[01:25] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: what is the error when you do an apt-get update?
[01:25] <dsatch> rene32: DWL-650+ by any chance?/
[01:25] <fooadd> instabin, try  mount -f smbfs /bla /foo
[01:25] <silent_scream> yeas georgy  i have done this but i have installed and some other plug-ins and i don't know which is the default
[01:25] <zyclop> fooadd: nah, it's not worth the hassle
[01:25] <rene32> dsatch: DWL- G 650+
[01:25] <xpapa> gbrent: and xgl not working ?
[01:26] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[01:26] <fooadd> mount -t*
[01:26] <silent_scream> georgy, how can i find that?
[01:26] <georgy> silent_scream : uninstall mozilla-mplayer and mozilla-xine ?
[01:26] <dsatch> rene32: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1476915
[01:26] <gbrent> xpapa: when you switch to your terminal it can lock your computer, thats what I know as the bug
[01:26] <silent_scream> oh ok
[01:26] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: what is the error when you do an apt-get update?
[01:27] <gbrent> xpapa: it oly happens on some computers with XHGL installed
[01:27] <Ramunas> Hello, does GeForce 6100 work with ubuntu?
[01:27] <dsatch> rene32: take that as you will, he's got it working, but it doesn't connect automatically
[01:27] <gbrent> Ranunas, it should
[01:28] <gbrent> ranunas: I have a 5900
[01:28] <georgy> Silent_scream : you can see whats the default in firefox : about:plugins
[01:28] <grothesk_> Can somebody tell me why there ist no update to Firefox 1.5.0.6 available for ubuntu?
[01:28] <mikeconcepts> gbrent:  Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-commercial_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:28] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: you have 2 entries for that repo?
[01:28] <Ramunas> gbrent: its integrated card, so will it work fine with ubuntu?
[01:29] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: no
[01:29] <silent_scream> georgy, how can i do this?
[01:29] <gbrent> Ramunas: try using the live cd and you will find out. It should be documented someplace online, not sure though
[01:30] <georgy> silent_cream : uninstall of watch the plugins ?
[01:30] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: go to ubuntuguide.org and......
[01:30] <Ramunas> gbrent: I don't have that motherboard yet, I'm thinking of buying it
[01:30] <gbrent> Ramunas: yeah you will have to look it up
[01:30] <rene32> dsatch: It does not connect before the desktop is loaded but that won't be a problem for me. But he does not say a word about WPA though. I know that the card is supported as it becomes "active" when I plug it. But as Ubuntu does not allow o configure WPA, I still don't know if I will get it to work. I think I have to give it a try.
[01:30] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: do section 4.1
[01:31] <rene32> dsatch: Txh for you help though.
[01:31] <blackline> I have a 32" widescreen and cant find a suitable screen resolution. The picture gets "squeezed", someone that could help me out?
[01:31] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: eplace everything with what they have. back yours up if you have repos you want to keep though
[01:31] <gbrent> replace
[01:31] <georgy> blackline : all try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:32] <ootput> are there any gtk2 builds of audacity available for ubuntu?
[01:32] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: be right back, have to smoke
[01:32] <ootput> there's one mentioned on the forums, but it appears there's still a dependency-check issue
[01:32] <dsatch> rene32: No worries, just be sure to use the package manager to "gnome-network-manager" and it should give you more options
[01:33] <blackline> georgy can i somehow backup this settings before?
[01:33] <dsatch> rene32: once you install that, logout and login and it should appear near the clock
[01:33] <georgy> blackline : yes, copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:34] <blackline> georgy is that the only file that will be affected?
[01:34] <georgy> blackline : yes, and only change your resolution
[01:36] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: did adding just repos help you at all?
[01:36] <gbrent> just those repos i mean?
[01:37] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:37] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: that was a quick smoke, no, have not tried that yet, I still want to try and delete the file in var/lib/apt/lists that I think is corrupt
[01:37] <rwscold> anyone know anything about vmware in here?
[01:37] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: #ubuntu-xgl has a lot of knowledge on reconfiguring apt, DBO helped me alot in there with and apt issue once
[01:37] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: this page is like what I have as a problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6198.html
[01:38] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: I think I just need to know how to delete that file, and don't know how
[01:38] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: did you try the apt-get clean
[01:39] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: yes
[01:39] <gbrent> what did it say when done anything?
[01:39] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: nothing
[01:40] <gbrent> what happens when you open synaptic? get any package errors?
[01:40] <ootput> any of you know how i can get a new tab in firefox whenver i click on a link in gaim?
[01:41] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: no error reported
[01:41] <tscherler> ootput you can change an option in the preference
[01:41] <J_P> hi all
[01:41] <tscherler> use tabs instead of new windows
[01:41] <tscherler> hi all
[01:41] <Dimensions> hi how do i update system using shell ? when i give sudo apt-get update it only shows list but doesn't  download any updates (i have tried it on like 5 different systems)
[01:41] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: what is the way to delete a file that is owned by root?
[01:41] <buenorra> ola
[01:42] <tscherler> I just finished to install draper but my wifi card is not finding any access points
[01:42] <vincenz> Hello
[01:42] <vincenz> What package do I need to build opengl applications?
[01:42] <georgy> Dimensions : sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:42] <erUSUL> Dimensions: add a sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:42] <tscherler> with breezy that was no prob at all
[01:42] <vincenz> I can't find any opengl-dev
[01:42] <vincenz> only freeglut-dev
[01:42] <gbrent> sudo rm file
[01:42] <ootput> tscherler: in firefox preferences? I've already done that. The problem is that gaim complains that a firefox window is already open, and that it can't open up a new one
[01:42] <buenorra> soys alguien espaol
[01:42] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: go to settings then filters and choose broken in synaptic
[01:42] <tscherler> hmm
[01:42] <tscherler> lemme try
[01:42] <erUSUL> !es
[01:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:42] <Dimensions> thanks georgy and erUSUL
[01:43] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: you can also "sudo su - root"
[01:43] <blackline> georgy - there are no screen resolutions on that list that are "wide", at least not the right for my screen. I need 1366x768. cant i do thismanually?
[01:43] <ootput> tscherler: "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system."
[01:43] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: then do an rm on the file
[01:43] <tscherler> ootput
[01:43] <tscherler> go to firefox preference
[01:43] <tscherler> there is a tab called tabs
[01:43] <georgy> blackline : I guess, but I'm not an expert ;)
[01:43] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: but if you delete the wrong file then you will have to get apt from source and compile it again
[01:44] <tscherler> I have spanish so it is called pestaas
[01:44] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: so back it up
[01:44] <tscherler> there are the option
[01:44] <blackline> anyone who know how i config xorg.conf manually to get screen resolutions thats not listed?
[01:44] <tscherler> open ... from other apps
[01:44] <vincenz> What package do I need to have access to the opengl fucntions from C++ applications?
[01:44] <gbrent> blakeline: yes you have to add meta modes
[01:45] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: I'll just rename it, but having difficulty just navigating to that folder
[01:45] <usu601> ktkg
[01:45] <tscherler> I have set e options open in most recent windows a new tab
[01:45] <gbrent> you should be able to "sudo su - root" then go anywhere
[01:45] <tscherler> (or similar sounding in english) ;)
[01:46] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: are the permissions preventing root to look at it?
[01:46] <ootput> tscherler: don't worry, i understood. I already have that option "a new tab in the most recent window" checked
[01:46] <blackline> gbrent: do i have to write the resolution to every "Depth"?
[01:46] <tscherler> ootput
[01:47] <tscherler> do you use firefox from the package
[01:47] <gbrent> blackline, you have to list every resolution to that depth yes
[01:47] <tscherler> or you downloadeddyourself
[01:47] <gbrent> blackline: from what i read
[01:47] <gbrent> blackline: I never tried it any other way
[01:48] <blackline> gbrent - ill give it a try. will restarting gnome do it or total reboot?
[01:48] <tscherler> if you download it and installed it yourself you need to change the "prefered apps" in system->preference
[01:48] <gbrent> restarting x should do it blackline
[01:48] <blackline> gbrent - ctrl-alt-backstage?
[01:48] <gbrent> yes
[01:48] <blackline> cu soon
[01:48] <gbrent> k
[01:49] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: make any progress? what package did you think was corrupt?
[01:49] <kendals> Guys, my Logitech G7 USB mouse isn't working in Ubuntu, and has never worked in this current latest installation. It USED to work in my old installation (Same version- 6.06), but for some reason, it isn't working :(
[01:50] <kendals> I've followed the guide on the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1492725&postcount=196 lists my device details)....
[01:50] <kendals> :( nothing
[01:50] <kendals> i'm desparate.
[01:50] <rwscold> KENDALS
[01:50] <georgy> kendals : try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:50] <rwscold> what doesnt work with it?
[01:50] <gbrent> kendals: you might not want to do it because it reconfigures x also but you can do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org and it will emulate 3 button mice
[01:51] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-commercial_Release
[01:51] <mikeconcepts> archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-commercial_Release.gpg
[01:51] <blackline> gbrent - no result there. the highest listed resolution on that list is 1024x768
[01:51] <kendals> gbrent- I've tried getting ot to emulate the 3button mouse- still nothing... :(
[01:51] <rwscold> i have a g7 it works for the mos tpart
[01:51] <kendals> (i.e. I've tried doing a -phigh reconfigure thing()
[01:51] <kendals> Well, a week ago, in Ubuntu, I had it working flawlessly.
[01:51] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: in var/lib/apt/lists
[01:51] <gbrent> does your monitor support higher blackline?
[01:51] <kendals> But since reinstalling completely, I've had no luck getting it to work...
[01:51] <gbrent> kendals: look up xmodmap
[01:51] <rwscold> its a horrible mouse anyways :P
[01:51] <blackline> according to the manual it supports 1366x768
[01:52] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: try deleting it
[01:52] <kendals> Haha, odd.
[01:52] <gbrent> what happens
[01:52] <kendals> Well hmm- suggest any other mice that will work straight away?
[01:52] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: assuming they will get downloaded again
[01:52] <rwscold> kendals you like it?
[01:52] <kendals> I would prefer a usb one for my laptop.
[01:52] <rwscold> whats in ur xorg
[01:52] <kendals> Yeah- because I was able to plug the usb into my laptop, and had a nice mouse straight away
[01:52] <kendals> i'll grab the xorg file
[01:52] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: just move it then
[01:52] <rwscold> k
[01:52] <blackline> gbrent according to the manual it supports 1366x768
[01:53] <kendals> I: Bus=0003 Vendor=046d Product=c50e Version=2510
[01:53] <kendals> N: Name="Logitech USB RECEIVER"
[01:53] <kendals> P: Phys=usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0
[01:53] <kendals> S: Sysfs=/class/input/input1
[01:53] <kendals> H: Handlers=mouse0 event1 ts0
[01:53] <kendals> B: EV=7
[01:53] <tscherler> back to the wifi question
[01:53] <kendals> B: KEY=ffff0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
[01:53] <kendals> B: REL=143
[01:53] <kendals> that's my cat proc. thingie...
[01:53] <gbrent> kendals: use pastebin
[01:53] <tscherler> doing ifconfig
[01:53] <kendals> pastebin?
[01:53] <tscherler> shows me the eth1
[01:53] <rwscold> !pastebin
[01:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:54] <kendals> ahhhh, sorry.
[01:54] <georgy> have to go, bye
[01:54] <tscherler> but looking in to the KWIFIManageer
[01:54] <gbrent> kendals: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:54] <tscherler> I see the eth1 as disabled
[01:54] <gbrent> laters greorgy
[01:54] <rwscold> kendals posnt ur entire xorg.conf to the pastebin and link me
[01:54] <gbrent> blackline: are you running xgl?
[01:55] <tscherler> In my office there are at least 3 different networks
[01:55] <kendals> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23311
[01:55] <blackline> gbrent - dont know, whats that? :)
[01:55] <tscherler> but doing a scann return non
[01:55] <gbrent> kendals: you might have to do an xmodmap on your mouse and map the buttons
[01:55] <gbrent> blackline: you not running it then :)
[01:55] <kendals> gbrent- but the mouse isn't even moving, let alone the buttons....
[01:55] <gbrent> pastebin your xorg.conf file
[01:55] <blackline> gbrent should i run it?
[01:55] <kendals> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23311
[01:55] <blackline> gbrent, ok, wait
[01:56] <gbrent> blackline: yes but not now... its just fun graphic stuff'
[01:56] <tscherler> hmm noone an idea re the wifi problem
[01:56] <xal> Hi
[01:56] <xal> Is there something wrong with the de ubuntu servers?
[01:56] <gbrent> kendals: I had that happen to me and I had to xmodmap from terminal
[01:56] <xal> I can't connect to them.
[01:56] <kendals> Oh ok..
[01:57] <gbrent> xal: connect with what?
[01:57] <blackline> gbrent http://pastebin.ca/168861
[01:57] <gbrent> kendals: each mouse has a different maping to each button and Ubuntu just does not seem to know its maping you you have to tell it
[01:57] <xal> With apt-get
[01:57] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: successfull moved them to /home, but don't seem to get them recreated yet
[01:57] <kendals> so xmodmap will make my mouse *move* aswell?
[01:58] <kendals> gbrent- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23312 is my xmodmap command
[01:58] <rwscold> kendals here is my xorg.conf whatever it is mine works so i dunno
[01:58] <rwscold> oops http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23313
[01:58] <kendals> :P
[01:59] <blackline> gbrent highest listed resolution in gnome settings are 1024x768 in my case. which isnt thatwierd since 768 it the height maximum.
[01:59] <kendals> rwscold, you've just got a default mouse setup in there...
[01:59] <rwscold> yep cause this mouse is dumb!
[01:59] <kendals> "        Option                "Protocol"                "ExplorerPS/2""
[01:59] <kendals> haha.
[01:59] <kendals> But I had that at default (that's the default Ubuntu thing I think for xorg).
[01:59] <theine> Has anybody played around with telepathy in here?
[01:59] <kendals> And it still didn't woirk...
[02:00] <rwscold> then take the mouse back to best buy and get a logitech mx518
[02:00] <kendals> So I thought, hm, I'll try this guide over onthe forums.
[02:00] <rwscold> :P
[02:00] <kendals> Haha.
[02:00] <gbrent> blackline: that should work... go to #ubuntu-xgl they are good with xorg.conf
[02:00] <kendals> I live in Aust (Dick Smiths!)...
[02:00] <kendals> But I might have to get a new mouse I guess :(
[02:00] <gbrent> kendals: one sec ill look at that xmodmap
[02:00] <kendals> sure thing, thanks gbrent.
[02:01] <kendals> i don't mean to be hogging up the support here fyi ;)
[02:01] <rwscold> to be honest i have had so many problems with htis mouse jumpy cursor and sometimes it decides not to work at all
[02:01] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: try going back into synaptic and doing a filter for broken
[02:01] <kendals> true..
[02:01] <kendals> it always worked for me ........until now.
[02:01] <kendals> could be the mouse itself.
[02:01] <AngryElf> how come ubuntu has no linux-686-smp kernel?
[02:02] <kendals> let me try plugging it into my brother's xp machine....
[02:02] <blackline> gbrent, thanks, ill give it a tr
[02:02] <tbaur> investigating
[02:02] <blackline> y
[02:02] <guanghuahe> how to install apps to linux
[02:02] <NET||abuse> hey , anyone know a way to colour code from a file when you cat it out?
[02:02] <Cyberai> I'm trying to sompile something on dapper that's asking for the libc-headers package, but I'm not finding it in synaptic, is it named differently?
[02:02] <Cyberai> oops, sompile=compile
[02:02] <kendals> hopefully, i can find the receipt for this mouse- it's only about 4 months old....should have a 1year on it i think
[02:03] <rwscold> if not send back to logitech i would but i am lazy
[02:03] <guanghuahe> Are you a manager ?
[02:03] <rwscold> they have had alot of problems with the mouse
[02:04] <rwscold> guanghuahe what are u trying to install?
[02:04] <inc|freaky> hi all. i have a problem with the ati drivers. it says something like (ee) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) ... can anyone help me?
[02:04] <kendals> yeah- but if i sent it back to logitech, i'd still need the receipt...?
[02:04] <kendals> lol
[02:04] <guanghuahe> gftp
[02:04] <gbrent> kendals: try this command.. "xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 4 5""
[02:04] <kendals> ok...
[02:04] <guanghuahe> Can you help me install gftp to ubuntu?
[02:05] <Telroth|Sleep> guanghuahe
[02:05] <guanghuahe> yes
[02:05] <kendals> xmodmap:  commandline:1:  bad number of buttons, must have 20 instead of 12
[02:05] <Telroth|Sleep> open up a command line
[02:05] <kendals> xmodmap:  1 error encountered, aborting.
[02:05] <Telroth|Sleep> type "sudo apt-get install gftp"
[02:05] <Telroth|Sleep> enter your password
[02:05] <Telroth|Sleep> and then it should install it
[02:05] <gbrent> kendals: what was the model?
[02:05] <kendals> logitech lx7.
[02:06] <guanghuahe> I tryped "sudo apt-get install gftp", but there is an error.
[02:06] <gbrent> does that l stand for its lazer series?
[02:06] <kendals> yeah.
[02:06] <Telroth|Sleep> guanghuahe, what error?
[02:06] <mikeconcepts> gbrent: out of time for now, must go do service calls
[02:06] <silent_scream> hey guys i'm trying to watch a video in youtube with firefox, but sound isn't synchronized with the video. i see the lips moving and i hear the words much later!! what's going on?
[02:06] <kendals> wait!
[02:06] <kendals> gbrent- it's optical...
[02:07] <gbrent> mikeconcepts: #ubuntu-xgl... talk to DBO, he is good with that stuff
[02:07] <kendals> (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=10918)
[02:07] <Telroth|Sleep> silent_scream, you have flash playing through a sound server
[02:07] <rwscold> guanghuahe: Click System [02:07] <Telroth|Sleep> silent_scream, no much i think you can do about it
[02:07] <kendals> damn logitech ("Simply plug in the wireless mini-receiver and start working.")- LIES!
[02:07] <guanghuahe> The error is "Couldn't find package gftp"
[02:07] <silent_scream> Telroth|Sleep, so what can i do??
[02:07] <rwscold> guanghuahe: Click System [02:08] <gbrent> kendals: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Advanced_Mouse/Individual_Configurations#Logitech_LX7
[02:08] <rwscold> last decent mouse logitech made was the 518 :P
[02:08] <gbrent> kendals: he got it to work with his instructions
[02:08] <Telroth|Sleep> guanghuahe, do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[02:09] <Telroth|Sleep> silent_scream, i'm not sure, i don't use gnome, but i have the same problem with kde
[02:09] <silent_scream> Telroth|Sleep, what about if i install opera?
[02:10] <kendals> it'ahh ok- the xinput set-button-map logitech-usb-0000:00:1d.0-1/input0 1 2 3 4 5 11 12 8 9 10 6 7 bit doesn't work.
[02:10] <kendals> apparently, xinput isn't a command....
[02:10] <Telroth|Sleep> silent_scream, i don't know. it might still be running through the sound server
[02:10] <guanghuahe> yes,  I enabled them.
[02:10] <kendals> And this mouse *did* work originally, so no idea why it's stopped now :S
[02:10] <Telroth|Sleep> guanghuahe, have you run sudo apt-get update ?
[02:11] <zax1> any one know a good channel for graphic design and graphic for the web ?
[02:11] <rwscold> anyone know anything about vmware?!
[02:11] <erUSUL> !vmware
[02:11] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:11] <kendals> gbrent- it didn't work in my brother's XP machine, i.e. it 'installed' and XP said 'your usb mouse is ready to use', but it didn't work....
[02:12] <gbrent> kendals: I am out of ideas other than xmodmap but you have to find the right nuber combination wait!!!!
[02:12] <guanghuahe> oh, I haven't run update,
[02:12] <no0tic> Hi, my audio card doesn't work anymore, hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to single_cmd mode... is the only line from dmesg that says something
[02:12] <kendals> so I can only presume that perhaps somehow the mouse optical thingie has died or something...
[02:12] <rwscold> no i have it installed hahha i am running windowsxp under it and i cant get it to have internet
[02:12] <guanghuahe> Thanks very much for your reminding
[02:12] <gbrent> kendals i remember a prgram that shows the numbers when you click the mouse
[02:12] <gbrent> kendals let me look around
[02:12] <kendals> sure thing
[02:12] <rwscold> kendals bang the mouse a couple times real hard
[02:12] <kendals> haha i tried that rws, lol.
[02:12] <viller> how can I install a USB mouse?
[02:13] <rwscold> lol oh it usually works for me
[02:13] <tscherler> hmm
[02:13] <kendals> hahaha, i hope it isn't an lx7, viller!
[02:13] <tscherler> remember the wifi problem?
[02:13] <kendals> gbrent, i'll just go look for the receipt :(
[02:13] <viller> i plugged it in and hoped hotplug or something will detect it
[02:13] <gbrent> kendals :) ok haha
[02:13] <guanghuahe> Hi, I want to know why need I run "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:13] <kendals> thank you heaps for trying to help, you too rwscold....i think it's just shot, since it was working the other night...
[02:13] <viller> it's a simple mouse with 2 buttons and a scrollwheel
[02:13] <tscherler> I just remembered tI had it before as well with horay and brezy
[02:13] <kendals> and if it doesn't even move in XP ....well
[02:13] <viller> made by Microsoft :D
[02:13] <tscherler> the solution is
[02:13] <gbrent> guanghuahe to update your local list of packages
[02:13] <kendals> any recommendations for a new mouse that works flawlessly with ubuntu?
[02:13] <rwscold> sorry kendals remember get a 518 wired
[02:13] <kendals> and is a nice cordless.
[02:13] <kendals> oh.
[02:13] <viller> how can I install a USB mouse?
[02:13] <kendals> wired? lame, lol.
[02:13] <guanghuahe> thanks very much
[02:13] <kendals> laptop!
[02:14] <rwscold> ehhh
[02:14] <tscherler> start WINDOWS !!! detect the net and restart ubuntu
[02:14] <gbrent> kendals: my logitech mx lazer 1000 works good but the back button does not work in firefox. i have not investigated it yet
[02:14] <tscherler> sounds weird no?
[02:14] <kendals> ahh ok, i might pick one up- bit heavy tho- see how i go.
[02:14] <tscherler> anyhow I am now connected with wifif again
[02:14] <kendals> hopefully get a refund if i can find the receipt.
[02:14] <kendals> brb in a fe wmins :)
[02:15] <tscherler> still somebody has an idea what that might be and how I can fix it?
[02:15] <guanghuahe> i am a new one to use ubuntu. Thank you very much for supply help.
[02:15] <ubuntu> guys, i have a system with win xp and ubuntu. Recently i had to reinstall win xp and by doing so i screwed my mbr with grub in it. Now i am on Ubuntu Live CD. Can anyone please tell me what to do to make my grub work again ?
[02:15] <viller> how can I install a USB mouse? Isn't there a tutorial or something? I can't even do such a simple thing?
[02:16] <lupine_85> !grub
[02:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:16] <kendals> DAMMIT, NO RECEIPT :'(
[02:16] <lupine_85> viller: you just plug it in...
[02:16] <kendals> viller, what mouse model is it?
[02:16] <viller> how can I find out what mouse model?
[02:16] <guanghuahe> oh, my god. After I running "sudo apt-get update" command. gftp is still not be installed.
[02:16] <viller> i allready plugged it in
[02:16] <viller> in the USB hole
[02:16] <kendals> well, like is it a microsoft mouse ....logitech?
[02:16] <guanghuahe> The same error happens.
[02:17] <rwscold> Kendals if its under warranty usually logitech will honor it without receipt since it was probably manufactured less than a year ago
[02:17] <viller> I see a microsoft text on it
[02:17] <kendals> really? awesome. i'll try to call them or something
[02:17] <kendals> they do say 5 yr war.
[02:17] <rwscold> give it a shot never give up tho
[02:17] <kendals> viller, open a terminal window, and type cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[02:17] <kendals> yeah totally, thanks rws.
[02:18] <kendals> (i hate using a touchpad)
[02:18] <viller> kendals: now what?
[02:19] <kendals> viller, about the 2nd or so block down
[02:19] <kendals> it should have text about 'mouse'
[02:20] <gbrent> ok im taking off guys
[02:20] <viller> I have two mouses plugged in currently
[02:20] <tscherler> viller
[02:20] <viller> it says ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse
[02:20] <tscherler> that just may be the prob
[02:21] <kendals> 2 mice...
[02:21] <kendals> thanks gbrent!!!
[02:21] <gbrent> np man
[02:21] <kendals> try unplugging the non-USB mouse, viller.
[02:21] <viller> I tried doing stuff with the other mouse pulled out, but it didn't detect anything, and I couldn't get help without a mouse :D
[02:21] <kendals> (i'm l33t now)
[02:21] <blackline> gbrent - now its right resolution. haha.
[02:21] <kendals> ahh ok viller.
[02:21] <tscherler> jeje I understand ;)
[02:21] <viller> nothing happened
[02:21] <guanghuahe> i have installed gftp from "System/Administrator...". Thanks.
[02:21] <kendals> well, now run that command again
[02:22] <minerale> How can I quickly and easly lock my desktop when I leave? Something akin to Windows's  WIN+L or CTR-ALT-DELETE Lock/ENTER
[02:22] <kendals> viller, open a terminal window, and type cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[02:22] <georgy> blackline : it's working ?
[02:22] <guanghuahe> But why I can't use "sudo apt-get install gftp"?
[02:22] <kendals> minerale, right click on the top panel somewhere blank, and click 'add to panel'
[02:22] <blackline> gbrent the wierd thing is thati have been using a transfrmed resolutions for 6 months so now "right" feels "wrong" :) people look so much thinner :)
[02:22] <kendals> scroll down and you'll see 'lock desktop' button- add that :)
[02:22] <viller> kendals: the same text but no mouse :S
[02:22] <kendals> then you can just click that.
[02:22] <blackline> georgy - yes, it works :)
[02:22] <minerale> thanks kendals
[02:22] <viller> my mouse has a led in it too but that doesn't work either
[02:22] <kendals> viller- i might have to leave it tothe experts then.....sorry
[02:23] <kendals> tried changing the batteries?
[02:23] <kendals> does it work in another computer?
[02:23] <kendals> etc.
[02:23] <viller> maybe there's a problem with my USB hole?
[02:23] <kendals> tried another port?
[02:23] <georgy> blackline : congratulation
[02:23] <viller> it worked in my friends computer (I got it from him)
[02:23] <kendals> (fyi- usb 'port', rather than 'hole' :P)
[02:23] <viller> lol :F
[02:23] <viller> :D*
[02:23] <kendals> np minerale
[02:24] <kendals> minerale- you could prob. also bind to the win + L key, but i haven't had time to look that up, what with all of my own dramas- think i read it somewhere the other week tho :)
[02:24] <kendals> viller- i am not sure, unfortunately :(
[02:26] <henna> about 'update-manager' it's complaining that there's another software management program runnig
[02:27] <henna> how do I figure out wich program didn't finish correctly?
[02:27] <georgy> henna : ps aux
[02:27] <CVirus> is there a way i can fetch the dependencies of a certain package while using the "download" parameter in apt-get ?
[02:28] <henna> georgy: gives me a lot of programs
[02:28] <henna> and i've no clue which one i'm looking for
[02:28] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me a godd mirror for central europe for edgy knot 2 (with kde)
[02:28] <georgy> henna : you can see what's running
[02:29] <ubuntu> ubotu, i went to that site you sent me to, and i cant pass one step. when i do "sudo grub" , i get (root@ubuntu:~ # grub)  bash: grub: command not found
[02:29] <wwallace_lap> hello does ubutu has scripts for nvidia drivers
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i went to that site you sent me to, and i cant pass one step. when i do "sudo grub" , i get (root@ubuntu:~ # grub)  bash: grub: command not found - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <wwallace_lap> and stuff
[02:29] <CVirus> is there a way i can fetch the dependencies of a certain package while using the "download" parameter in apt-get ?
[02:29] <wwallace_lap> is there a bot here with infoabout scrpits
[02:29] <wwallace_lap> ?
[02:29] <ubuntu> lol
[02:29] <ubuntu> can anyone please help me with this ?
[02:30] <ubuntu> i went to the grub site ubotu sent me to, and i cant pass one step. when i do "sudo grub" , i get (root@ubuntu:~ # grub)  bash: grub: command not found
[02:30] <wwallace_lap> hello does ubutu has scripts for nvidia drivers
[02:31] <jrib> wwallace_lap: scripts?  scripts that do what?
[02:31] <xopher> wwallace_lap, apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:31] <Leovinus> hi again.
[02:32] <Leovinus> i installed the kernel sources as instructed earlier to compile but its still showing the followinf eroor, what more can i do.
[02:32] <Leovinus> ptaylor@taylorworld:~/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module$ make all
[02:32] <Leovinus> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/ptaylor/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module modules
[02:32] <Leovinus> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:32] <Leovinus> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[02:32] <Leovinus> ptaylor@taylorworld:~/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module$
[02:33] <CVirus> is there a way i can fetch the dependencies of a certain package while using the "download" parameter in apt-get ?
[02:35] <fooadd> CVirus, it will fetch the dependencies
[02:35] <triplc> please help me: i have install "pppoe" and "pppoeconfig" in dapper-amd64 (by default, the pppoeconfig is installed); but when i run "pppoeconfig", it asked for interface (where only eth0 is detected, which is correct) and then it *wait forever* at the Scanning for pppoe access concentrator. it is strange that after i *unplug* the ethernet cable, it *appears* to say that it has found the device and ready to write the config (dsl-provider). But of course, t
[02:35] <triplc> hat config does not word. Error: PAP authentication failed.
[02:36] <Leovinus> can any one help, if not where else can i go for help.
[02:36] <triplc> i see that the plug-in is "rp-pppoe.so". is that correct? or i need other plug-in ?
[02:36] <xopher> Leovinus, why not build the kernel the debian way instead?
[02:36] <yanis> is the new 2.16 gnome available in universe?
[02:37] <tc_> SPORK ARE YOU THERE?
[02:37] <xopher> Leovinus, using kernel-package
[02:37] <viller> what is evdev?
[02:37] <Leovinus> i am noit building a kernel, i just want to compile some drivers
[02:37] <viller> and tsdev?
[02:37] <xopher> oh
[02:38] <Leovinus> i mean kernel modules,
[02:38] <tc_> can someone please please help me with grub,,i really need it
[02:38] <tc_> anyone there with grub experience?
[02:38] <cochon> a little
[02:39] <tc_> ok basically i have windows on my C drive k...got ubuntu on my D drive.. 2 seperate drives
[02:39] <viller> what are evdev and tsdev?
[02:39] <tc_> all was good until windows messed up on me then i reinstalled and grub was not there on the loader
[02:39] <Leovinus> and i have already installed the kernel-package
[02:39] <kyja> tc_, saute in white wine with a garnish on the side.
[02:39] <tc_> i got help the other day from a guy in here
[02:39] <tc_> kyja no funny shit lol
[02:39] <kyja> tc_, sorry felt like being comady relief
[02:39] <tc_> :P
[02:40] <tc_> anyways i know i have to type grub as root in console on the live cd and enter in a command or 2
[02:40] <tc_> but i forget what they are
[02:40] <kyja> tc_, I wish I could help you though, I have not done a thing with grub
[02:40] <ootput> it'd be comedy relief if it were indeed _funny_!
[02:40] <xopher> Leovinus, wait, Ill check if I can find anything ..
[02:40] <tc_> kyja its no probs im sure someone in here knows.
[02:40] <viller> what are evdev and tsdev?
[02:41] <tc_> i would noramlly jus go and try do it myself but i have ubuntu setup really nicely now
[02:41] <tc_> can someone pls help me out with it...plsssssssss
[02:41] <Leovinus> this is the driver RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6
[02:41] <chavo> tc_, are you on the live cd now?
[02:41] <tc_> yes
[02:41] <tc_> im on live
[02:41] <ootput> viller: device protocols
[02:41] <tc_> and the guy who helped me the other day made it very easy to fix grub
[02:41] <ootput> viller: though, i'm not so sure about the latter
[02:41] <manmadha> Is there any sound boosters in linux????
[02:41] <tc_> he jus said open console type su password
[02:42] <tc_> type grub and then type...this is only a example
[02:42] <tc_> install HD0,1
[02:42] <tc_> something like that i forget doh..i should have wrote it down
[02:42] <fooadd> tc_, sudo grub-install /dev/hda (??)
[02:42] <tc_> nah grub is installed thats the problem..i jus need to assign it again to mbr i think
[02:42] <chavo> tc_, first you have to mount the ubuntu partition and chroot into it
[02:43] <xopher> Leovinus, sorry, have to go pick up my brother from school, Ill look at this later.
[02:43] <tc_> chavo no i dont..i had this chat with someone the other day and done all the chroot thing..but there was no need this other guy who fixed it told me i didnt have to do any of that
[02:43] <ootput> chavo: neowin?
[02:43] <tc_> and he was right as it did fix it..i had to format windows to really fix it so im screwed again
[02:43] <Leovinus> ok,
[02:43] <chavo> ootput, yes the same
[02:44] <chavo> tc_, well I've only ever done it with a chroot
[02:44] <tc_> hmm
[02:44] <tc_> is it hard?
[02:44] <tc_> lol
[02:44] <chavo> only takes a second
[02:44] <tc_> ok
[02:44] <tc_> can you help so pls :P
[02:44] <tc_> i hate this live cd crap
[02:44] <fooadd> tc_, just mount it, and then "chroot /where/you/mounted/it"
[02:44] <cherubiel> Leovinus: get the kernel headers
[02:45] <tc_> how do i mount it...im new to linux
[02:45] <chavo> sudo mkdir /dapper
[02:45] <tc_> k
[02:45] <chavo> sudo mount /dev/hdx /dapper
[02:45] <chavo> hdx is your partition though
[02:45] <fooadd> tc_, sudo fdisk -l , to know which partition you are gonna mount
[02:45] <tc_> k
[02:45] <grimboy> How would I set up wifi without internet? Because I'm in a bit of catch 22, without internet I can't wifi without wifi I don't have internet. I have another (this) machine with internet. How would I make a repository on cd? It that the right way of doing it?
[02:46] <Leovinus> which do i chose
[02:46] <Leovinus> Reading package lists... Done
[02:46] <Leovinus> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:46] <Leovinus> Package kernel-headers is a virtual package provided by:
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k7-smp 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k7 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k6 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686-smp 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-586tsc 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <tc_> dont spam ffs
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <Leovinus>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2 2.4.27-12
[02:46] <Leovinus> You should explicitly select one to install.
[02:46] <Leovinus> E: Package kernel-headers has no installation candidate
[02:46] <ootput> Leovinus: very UNWISE
[02:46] <Leovinus> ptaylor@taylorworld:~/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module$
[02:46] <tc_> ignored
[02:46] <tc_> anyways what one do i mount it to
[02:46] <tc_> i done sudo fdisk -l
[02:46] <Leovinus> why unwise
[02:46] <tc_> i got sda1 which is my C drive with windows?
[02:47] <ootput> Leovinus: because noone appreciates it
[02:47] <cherubiel> Leovinus: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:47] <tc_> then i got sdb1/sdb2/sdb3
[02:47] <grimboy> Leovinus, It is considered bad ettiquet to paste directly into irc as it floods the channel.
[02:47] <fooadd> tc_, see the line that has "83  Linux" in it
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Leovinus: have you heard of pastebins?
[02:47] <tc_> k
[02:47] <tc_> /dev/sdb1   *           1       18700   150207718+  83  Linux
[02:47] <tc_> that 1?
[02:47] <chavo> tc_, most likely
[02:47] <fooadd> tc_,  yup
[02:47] <tc_> k
[02:47] <Leovinus> sorry. i have not heard of pastebins
[02:47] <thoreauputic> !paste > Leovinus
[02:48] <thoreauputic> Leovinus: /topic
[02:48] <chavo> tc_, now mount it and do sudo chroot /dapper
[02:48] <tc_> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /dapper this correct?
[02:48] <ompaul> Leovinus, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for more than two lines of comment and data combined
[02:48] <chavo> yes
[02:48] <fooadd> tc_, aha
[02:48] <tc_> k
[02:48] <tc_> ?
[02:48] <Leovinus> ok
[02:48] <ompaul> !enter
[02:48] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:48] <tc_> fooadd:  whats funny?
[02:49] <tc_> that not right?
[02:49] <fooadd> tc_, nothing!
[02:49] <thoreauputic> ompaul: pasting AND enter-abuse - it must be Sunday
[02:49] <Leovinus> i am sorry
[02:49] <tc_> lol k
[02:49] <fooadd> what did I say ? :P
[02:49] <thoreauputic> oh, no it isn't
[02:49] <Vegeta^> Why is it that when I close my laptop (not shutting off) and when I open op it again, the screen stays shut down, that is "a pure black screen". How can I solve this?
[02:50] <ompaul> thoreauputic, it is just a slow day
[02:50] <tc_> is that it after i do  sudo chroot /dapper?
[02:50] <fooadd> tc_, did "aha" made you think that I am laughing ? I meant "yes" by saying it....... *me is 75% drunk* so forgive me:P
[02:50] <fooadd> tc_, you mounted it? now "sudo chroot /dapper"
[02:50] <thoreauputic> ompaul: every day is a "slow" day for some people ;-)
[02:50] <tc_> fooadd:  ahh ok i taught i was doing some wierd format u guys where playin on me lmao
[02:50] <tc_> fooadd:  yeah i done  sudo chroot /dapper
[02:50] <fooadd> heh
[02:51] <tc_> thats it?
[02:51] <tc_> chavo: is that all i do  sudo chroot /dapper and its done?
[02:52] <Dani-buntu> can anyone help with gnokii?
[02:52] <Cyberai> ok, this is bizarre, I'm running dapper, but I can't find linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 with synaptic?
[02:53] <Cyberai> what am I missing here?
[02:53] <[GuS] > Hi people!, someone knows to solve keyboard problem with xgl/compiz?
[02:53] <chavo> tc_, no now you need to reinstall grub to the mbr
[02:53] <tc_> o
[02:53] <[GuS] > i am usign spanish keyboard Genius KB-21e Scroll
[02:53] <tc_> lol
[02:53] <tc_> ok
[02:53] <lupine_85> !linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[02:53] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386: Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 836 kB, installed size 22988 kB
[02:53] <chavo> I'm assuming that's /dev/sda
[02:53] <lupine_85> it's definitely there
[02:53] <Cyberai> [GuS] , let me guess, sudden logoffs?
[02:53] <[GuS] > no
[02:53] <tc_> umm sda is my windows drive?
[02:53] <[GuS] > just many keys do not work
[02:54] <fooadd> tc_, sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[02:54] <[GuS] > like @ for example
[02:54] <tc_> whats the wastebin site and i will upload a SS of my console?
[02:54] <[GuS] > os simbolos in numeral keyboard... or alt gr...
[02:54] <[GuS] > simbols*
[02:54] <davvs> how do i compile something with a "Makefile"-file in ubuntu?
[02:55] <jrib> !compile > davvs
[02:55] <jrib> tc_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:55] <davvs> ok, thx jrib
[02:55] <tc_> ty
[02:55] <fooadd> davvs, just type "make" in tha directory where the Makefile is
[02:55] <grimboy> How would I set up wifi without internet? Because I'm in a bit of catch 22, without internet I can't wifi without wifi I don't have internet. I have another (this) machine with internet. How would I make a repository on cd? It that the right way of doing it?
[02:55] <davvs> fooadd: i dont have make and i can't apt-get it
[02:56] <rasputnik> davvs: apt-get install build-essential
[02:56] <tarawa> hi, does anyone know of an ubuntu pkg that will extract text from pdf files?
[02:56] <chavo> davvs, it's on the CD
[02:56] <fooadd> davvs, can't use apt-get?
[02:56] <rasputnik> grimboy: what wireless card do you have?
[02:56] <tc_> chavo:  here look"this pls http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i23316
[02:56] <tc_> and fooadd
[02:56] <fooadd> like rasputnik said it's on the CD
[02:56] <davvs> yes fooadd, i can use apt-get but it don't find make
[02:56] <thoreauputic> tarawa: pdftotext
[02:56] <jrib> tarawa: pdftotext in the xpdf-utils package
[02:56] <Leovinus> its still giving make error 2 when i try and compile with make all, why
[02:56] <mathieu> grimboy: how about using wired first?
[02:57] <cherubiel> davvs: see teh correct naem with apt-cache search make
[02:57] <tarawa> thoreauputic, jrib thanks
[02:57] <Leovinus> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:57] <grimboy> mathieu, The wires won't reach.
[02:57] <fooadd> tc_, your root is /dev/sdb1, and ... the problem is...?
[02:57] <mathieu> grimboy: move the computer?
[02:57] <tc_> i didnt know which one to install it on
[02:57] <chavo> but his mbr is on sda
[02:57] <tc_> so its sdb1 i install grub 2?
[02:57] <thoreauputic> davvs: build-essential installs make
[02:57] <davvs> ok thx
[02:57] <grimboy> mathieu, Yeah, I suppose I'll have to. I'm just lazy sometimes.
[02:58] <r0ver> hello, i've a dapper cd. Do you know if i can use the text installer and or can i do that ? (ie what shall i do when the cd boots)
[02:58] <mathieu> grimboy: or buy longer cables and don't use wireless at all, since it seems to be a desktop system
[02:58] <fooadd> tc_,  now run "grub-install /dev/sdb"
[02:58] <jrib> r0ver: the dapper alternate install cd has the text installer
[02:58] <tc_> fooadd: ok but chavo is saying sda is my mbr?
[02:58] <tc_> doesnt matter?
[02:58] <mathieu> grimboy: wired >>> wireless
[02:58] <BiSk-8> Hello, i have a problem with a makefile i downloaded, it wont let me install the program, would any1 be kind enough to help me if i paste the error in a pastebin?
[02:59] <rasputnik> BiSk-8: sure
[02:59] <lupine_85> rasputnik: agreed :)
[02:59] <chavo> but I've never used SATA either so I could be wrong
[02:59] <MNKentB> Help, my email blows up!
[02:59] <fooadd> tc_, same as chavo ..............
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Leovinus:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:59] <tc_> ahh
[02:59] <tc_> dont do that hahahahahaha
[02:59] <fooadd> BiSk-8, upload the error msg somwhere
[02:59] <fooadd> tc_, lol
[03:00] <tc_> SPORK are u there
[03:00] <tc_> lol
[03:00] <tc_> !grubn
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <tc_> !grub
[03:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:00] <cherubiel> Leovinus: do you see that folder on your filesystem?
[03:00] <BiSk-8> rasputnik, fooadd: http://www.copypot.com/730 please help!
[03:01] <Leovinus> what folder
[03:01] <rasputnik> BiSk-8: you're missing header files for openssl . install openssl-dev
[03:01] <claudiu> hi all
[03:01] <claudiu> I could use some help because I want to setup a web server on a powermac 7600
[03:02] <Leovinus> whats the folder, linux.headers where
[03:02] <claudiu> can anyone help me with this powermac 7600 ?
[03:02] <Vegeta^> Why does the laptop screen stays black when I close and then open the lid?
[03:02] <grimboy> mathieu, Yeah, it is faster, but my dad won't let me trail cables through the whole house. :(
[03:03] <BiSk-8> rasputnik: where can i find it, apitude doesnt have it
[03:03] <Leovinus> i am not sure
[03:04] <rasputnik> BiSk-8: 'apt-cache search ssl dev' says : libssl-dev
[03:04] <Ramunas> where can i find if motherboard is supported by ubuntu?
[03:05] <Leovinus> anyway you can only get the kernel headers for 2.4 kernel. i have a 2.6 kernel
[03:05] <rasputnik> BiSk-8: why Debian can't have a consistent naming scheme is beyond me. come to that, why don't they just install the bloody headers.
[03:05] <BiSk-8> rasputnik: so i must install libssl-dev?
[03:05] <rasputnik> Leovinus: that's not true
[03:05] <BiSk-8> because taht is what im doing
[03:05] <rasputnik> BiSk-8: yes. good. :)
[03:05] <cherubiel> Leovinus: you have the kernel source in /usr/src ?
[03:05] <Leovinus> how do i do it then
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Leovinus: as i said earlier,   sud apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:05] <claudiu> does anyone know if ubuntu will run on a powermac 7600 ?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> *sudo
[03:06] <Leovinus> what do i put in the space of -$(uname -r)
[03:06] <tyler_d> my create audio cd button in rhythmbox is greyed out?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Leovinus: type exactly what I said with sudo
[03:06] <rasputnik> Leovinus: nothing! the shell completes that for you
[03:06] <Leovinus> ok
[03:06] <fooadd> Leovinus, the value you get from typing "uname -r"
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Leovinus: it expands to match your kernel
[03:06] <Leovinus> ok, thanks
[03:06] <BiSk-8> rasputnik, may i query you?
[03:06] <claudiu> will ubuntu run on a powermac 7600 ?
[03:07] <rasputnik> BiSk-8: i expect so
[03:07] <rasputnik> claudiu: try it and tell us! sheesh.
[03:07] <thoreauputic> fooadd: $(uname -r) expanxds to the right string
[03:07] <fooadd> claudiu, googled it? you'll waste your time asking here if no one tried it ;)
[03:07] <claudiu> fooadd: googled a lot, be sure
[03:07] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:07] <fooadd> thoreauputic, I know, I just wanted to tell him what value will be put there ;)
[03:07] <thoreauputic> fooadd: OK :)
[03:08] <claudiu> rasputnik: do you have any experience with macs ?
[03:08] <Leovinus> its saying couldnt find package.  kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Leovinus: "linux-headers"
[03:09] <claudiu> fooadd: on google, the only linux on macs listed is Yellow dog. I couldn't find ANY link with UBUNTU on MACS
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Leovinus: did you atually *read* what I typed?
[03:09] <Leovinus> yes,
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Leovinus:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)   <<- where does it say "kernel" ?
[03:10] <fooadd> fooadd, if there is no ubuntu for mac ( which I really don't know... no idea) try YD or maybe Debian (??)
[03:10] <Leovinus> i am sorry, i am tired.
[03:10] <rwscold> anyone know anything about vmware?!
[03:10] <fooadd> claudiu,^^
[03:10] <rekster> Good morning
[03:11] <thoreauputic> fooadd: sure there's Ubuntu for Mac - I run it on my iBook G4
[03:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:11] <rekster> Ive installed a few network interfaces to test, and now that they no longer exist they still show up as wireless connections in the 'Network Settings' ....  does anyone know where I can clean up these interfaces?
[03:11] <fooadd> claudiu, then our good friend thoreauputic will help you :P
[03:12] <thoreauputic> claudiu: try ubutu PPC :)
[03:12] <rekster> Im a bit tired of seeing all these connections that no longer exist when I want to change network settings
[03:12] <thoreauputic> Ubuntu PPC sorry
[03:12] <fooadd> thoreauputic, believe me I used a mac maybe 2-3 times ONLY!
[03:12] <zith> when I run apt-get dist-upgrade, 10 packages are held back.  i don't see this situation explained anywhere
[03:12] <tyler_d> anyone know how to enable scsi-emulation for a cd burner?
[03:13] <eirc> hello i need some help with xgl :S
[03:13] <Vegeta^> How do I configre acpid so that my laptop screen doesn't stay black when I open the lid.
[03:13] <manmadha> is there any sound boosters in linux???if so can u suggest me:???
[03:13] <thoreauputic> claudiu: all the mirror s should have Ubuntu PPC - see http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:13] <agt> Anyone tried running sudo update-flashplugin lately? I get a network prob and want to know if its my end or not
[03:13] <rasputnik> claudiu: a bit. they changed architechure from 68000 to powerpc. don't know what your model is though.
[03:13] <rekster> anyone know where i can clean up these non-existent network connections?
[03:14] <fooadd> manmadha, sound booster?
[03:14] <tyler_d> agt: automatix
[03:14] <zith> perhaps there is a repository i am missing
[03:14] <JoaoJoao> hello
[03:14] <rambo3> eirc,  /j #ubuntu-xgl
[03:14] <JoaoJoao> does the ubuntu openldap package include sql backend support?
[03:15] <manmadha> fooadd, ya like sound max in windows....
[03:15] <claudiu> thoreauputic: I have a power macintosh 7600 - 200mhz and i want to use it as a webserver with ubuntu LTS
[03:16] <thoreauputic> claudiu: 200mhz?
[03:16] <claudiu> thoreauputic: yep
[03:16] <lupine_85> 200MHz is more than enough for basic linux
[03:16] <rasputnik> claudiu: you're SOL on ubuntu. powerpc only I believe.
[03:16] <thoreauputic> claudiu: I have no idea if that will install - how old is it? I have a G4
[03:17] <thoreauputic> lupine_85: yes, but will dapper install on a 200 mhz mac?
[03:17] <claudiu> thoreauputic: its 1996
[03:17] <lupine_85> hard to say ;)
[03:17] <rasputnik> claudiu: welcome to the world of tomorrow!
[03:17] <claudiu> thoreauputic: this is capacble of running macos 9
[03:17] <Chousuke> thoreauputic: the server version should
[03:17] <justin_> lupine_85: What do you mean by "basic" linux? - you mean console only? heh...
[03:17] <thoreauputic> claudiu: well, you can try the alternate CD and a "server" install i guess
[03:17] <lupine_85> console only, yep
[03:18] <richardr> are there any good kdevelop channels?
[03:18] <lupine_85> generally speaking, I wouldn't use ubuntu for something like that
[03:18] <lupine_85> AspisOS++
[03:18] <rasputnik> thoreauputic: don't think so. it's a completely different cpu.
[03:18] <justin_> lupine_85: Yeah, well as this is 2006 --- I would say that is extremely basic ;) --- but it is true, console can still do a whole lot all the same.. almost anything X can do, console can do... almost everything.
[03:18] <claudiu> lupine_85: I only want tu setup a webserver on it. I think its equivalent power is a Pentium III- 700mhz
[03:18] <thoreauputic> Chousuke: well, i installed hoary on a Pentium 200 mmx 64MB RAM, but never tried on a 1996 mac :)
[03:18] <rasputnik> justin_: porn isn't as much fun though.
[03:18] <lupine_85> no, console *can* do everything :)
[03:19] <lupine_85> ascii porn+=
[03:19] <justin_> claudiu: You have more then enough power for a webserver then.
[03:19] <lupine_85> erm, ++
[03:19] <lupine_85> the question is whether the dapper kernel has been compiled with support for that particular processor
[03:19] <justin_> well.. depending on how much hits you get of course, but if your not like google or yahoo .. size wise 733 is enough power.. you'll have plenty left over.
[03:19] <claudiu> justin_: i thought so.
[03:19] <lupine_85> if not, it's going to be less hassle to use another distro
[03:19] <rasputnik> claudiu: debian is 'close enough' to ubuntu if you know the cli. try that?
[03:20] <rekster> hmmm why would a wireless pc card create a 'eth2' AND a 'wifi0'
[03:20] <thoreauputic> rasputnik: for a server install, it's just about identical
[03:20] <claudiu> lupine_85: this is my question too. I could use some help anyway. For example, I must use USB keyboard on it and i have no display
[03:20] <alumno> aille
[03:20] <alumno> aileen
[03:20] <rasputnik> thoreauputic: sarge put me right off debian. slow security fixes are no fun.
[03:20] <lupine_85> well, depends on the debian :)
[03:20] <alumno> holaa
[03:20] <alumno> kbrgkw
[03:20] <alumno> ig
[03:21] <lupine_85> claudiu: what use would a keyboard be without a display?
[03:21] <alumno> hola
[03:21] <alumno> a todos
[03:21] <thoreauputic> rasputnik: hmm - I haven't run Debian for over a year - except sid in vmware
[03:21] <justin_> claudiu: Well your going to need a keyboard just to set things up.. if the machine will serve only as a server though, you can always remove the keyboard afterwards.. and monitor for that matter -- and get the heartbeat, through your regular machine.
[03:21] <funkja> Is there a better VNC server package then one that comes stock with Ubuntu? Whenever I connect to my computer locally the windows don't refresh correctly. I have to high text in windows or mouse over buttons to see what they say.
[03:21] <rasputnik> thoreauputic: plus they've got too much attitude for me.
[03:21] <justin_> funkja: UltraVNC :) --
[03:22] <funkja> for Ubuntu?
[03:22] <claudiu> thoreauputic: I dont have a monitor and i would like to  try a blind boot and continue instalation with ssh from my kubuntu desktop. I must mention I have sa svideo I will try to use
[03:22] <thoreauputic> rasputnik: ah, well that's another issue :) On the other hand i learnt a lot in #debian, despite the flames  ;)
[03:22] <claudiu> thoreauputic: I hope the svideo with a TV should compensate lack of monitor ?!?!
[03:23] <justin_> There is nothing better then UltraVNC for free I would say, it runs my windows 98 games pefectly.. with like no slowdown at all :)
[03:23] <MNKentB> Do you think Open Suse works?
[03:23] <justin_> MNKentB: No
[03:23] <kyja> ?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> claudiu: no idea, sorry - my only Mac install is on my 12" iBook - you might need google or  a mailing list
[03:23] <justin_> :)
[03:24] <claudiu> well the forums seem to have no idea as well. I miss the great forums support of gentoo
[03:24] <funkja> justin_: I'm only seeing windows releases for Ultra VNC
[03:24] <thoreauputic> claudiu: try the ubuntu-users mailing list
[03:24] <justin_> funkja: They have a Linux version somewhere around there --- It took me a while to find it also
[03:24] <thoreauputic> claudiu: I won't comment on the forums :)
[03:24] <kyja> I realy like knoppix and had discovered how to do HD install but it messed up my grub and only booted once and then I could not boot knoppix or ubuntu
[03:25] <kyja> I also could not sweet talk knoppix to uise my bcm4306
[03:25] <kyja> I love ubuntu. guess I will stay with it.
[03:25] <ootput> kyja: grub "issues" are generally fixable
[03:25] <encompass> does anyone have experience with the mightymouse, I am trying to get the sidescroll working
[03:26] <justin_> funkja: Downloads, it is a "SRC" source file, you will need to compile it youself.. make modifications to the code where you feel it necessary.
[03:26] <kyja> I wish I had know how at the time. I lost alot of upgrading and installs on the ubuntu partition. I redid my wholer machine.
[03:26] <faisal_d> hello, i'm having some trouble compiling stuff on dapper... anybody can help me with gcc??
[03:27] <funkja> justin_: ic
[03:27] <jrib> faisal_d: maybe, can you be more specific?
[03:27] <claudiu> thoreauputic: ok thanks . I 'll try to use the mailing list
[03:27] <fooadd> faisal_d, post the error msgs somwhere, maybe we can help
[03:28] <kyja> but for "out of the box" on knoppix I was so impressed other than I still could not get ndiswrapper to work. all my favorite popular aps were already functional without install.
[03:28] <faisal_d> sure.. i was trying to compile a package. i did ./configure and it said no c compiler is in path.. i installed gcc 3.4 and it gave the same error, so i removed gcc 3.4 and isntalled gcc 4.0 and now it says: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:28] <kyja> however I stay true to ubuntu.
[03:28] <jrib> faisal_d: install build-essential
[03:28] <thoreauputic> faisal_d:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:28] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[03:29] <faisal_d> jrib, thoreauputic... i'm doing so now.. but what does it install??
[03:29] <MNKentB> justin_, I just fully updated my software using apt-get I am running 6.06, email blows up as I scroll down!  Have you heard of that?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> faisal_d: apt-cache depends build-essential   will tell you
[03:30] <faisal_d> thoreauputic , thanx... this thing has been bugging me for the last two days :)
[03:30] <justin_> MNKentB: Actually yes I have heard about that problem, quite a few people have had difficulties after applying the updates.. --- especially in X..
[03:30] <Cuddles_in_KY> morning all.
[03:30] <justin_> I never update, unless it is security related ;) --- and then only do it when a major revision comes around.
[03:31] <MNKentB> justin_, would I be better off going back to 5.10?
[03:31] <Cuddles_in_KY> just installed 5.10 on a system, rebooted, it starts up, then after "starting hardware abstraction layer" the screen goes blank and the system freezes. any way to fix this?
[03:31] <MNKentB> I was using Fedora Core 3 and that worked fairly well.
[03:32] <MNKentB> justin_, then I wanted the latest and greatest.
[03:34] <justin_> MNKentB: Well besides security, or critical updates -- not much changes with an update --- most of the time its fixes.. for bugs that you will never come across anyways..
[03:34] <justin_> I go with the if it aint broken, dont fix it -- style of computing :P
[03:34] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone?
[03:35] <Canopus> Hello every one
[03:35] <RelevantRy> I know that I just joined an honestly this is my first time in an IRC but, I was wondering if anyone had some advice about ubuntu
[03:35] <mathieu> RelevantRy: you'll need to ask
[03:36] <manmadha> can any one suggest the beautiful html websites plz....i want to take them as a guide......can any one help me?
[03:36] <rwscold> RelevantRy: advice?
[03:36] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: my advice is, download the dvd & install :)
[03:36] <etzerd> Hello all
[03:36] <RelevantRy> well - I have not installed yet but was leaning tword ubuntu over suse to create a webserver in the office
[03:37] <nathansnook> Hello all
[03:37] <etzerd> is anyone know when the new ubuntu version will be release?
[03:37] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: of course, I'm offering no guarantees it won't burn down your house & poison your pets :)
[03:37] <nathansnook> Have a system load iissue any one offer some hjelp
[03:37] <frogzoo> !edgy
[03:37] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:37] <Canopus> If any one could offer advice, when i send out a meeting appointment on evolution (dapper is my ubuntu version) the recepients get invitation of 1 hour earlier (including myself ... as my email address is also on that list) .... can someone help me understand why and how to fix this prob.?
[03:37] <RelevantRy> didn't know which install to use to run a LAMP server with a raid
[03:37] <frogzoo> !schedule
[03:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:37] <Canopus> !schedule
[03:38] <rasputnik> RelevantRy: ubuntus very user friendly. use that.
[03:38] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: dapper is your best bet - easiest would be to have boot on a separate non-raid disk, root disk raid can be done, but requires lilo & is fiddly
[03:38] <RelevantRy> would anyone recommend SUSE over UBUNTU?
[03:39] <SikB0Y> salve
[03:39] <SikB0Y> a
[03:39] <SikB0Y> tutti
[03:39] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: suse fanbois
[03:39] <SikB0Y> potrei avere
[03:39] <SikB0Y> aiuto ?
[03:39] <rasputnik> RelevantRy: are you into masochism?
[03:39] <rambo3> there's nothing wrong with suse
[03:39] <RelevantRy> what is masochism
[03:39] <frogzoo> rambo3: exactly
[03:39] <RelevantRy> I just heard suse was bulky
[03:40] <ootput> RelevantRy: dict masochism
[03:40] <rasputnik> rambo3, frogzoo can't agree with you there sorry
[03:40] <frogzoo> for a webserver, most any linux distro will do a champion job
[03:40] <SikB0Y> who speck italian here ??
[03:40] <RelevantRy> yeah I figured that
[03:40] <frogzoo> !it
[03:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:40] <SikB0Y> thanks
[03:40] <frogzoo> SikB0Y: bonna sera
[03:40] <SikB0Y> ciao
[03:41] <RelevantRy> I liked what has been said about ubuntu and suse. was going to go in one of these directions
[03:41] <RelevantRy> would suse be easier to use - I know that it has a lot right out of the box
[03:42] <RelevantRy> I guess with ubuntu I did not know which disk to install from
[03:42] <RelevantRy> server/desktop/alternative
[03:42] <RelevantRy> ?
[03:42] <rambo3> isnt there live cd server install go ask in ubuntu-server
[03:42] <Caplain> is there a way to have nfs bind to a specific interface?
[03:43] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: I believe you want the server ubuntu install, & somewhere you can select LAMP as part of the install
[03:43] <RelevantRy> I thought so but, I also need to install within a RAID
[03:43] <RelevantRy> thought the alternative install was for that
[03:44] <Canopus> If any one could offer advice, when i send out a meeting appointment on evolution (dapper is my ubuntu version) the recepients get invitation of 1 hour earlier (including myself ... as my email address is also on that list) .... can someone help me understand why and how to fix this prob.?
[03:44] <Caplain> Canopus: is your time synced?
[03:44] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: this will get messy if the driver's not supported
[03:45] <RelevantRy> trogzoo: which drivers are you talking about
[03:45] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: so go with whiever distro supports your raid out of the box
[03:45] <erUSUL> !lvm
[03:45] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:45] <Canopus> yes
[03:45] <RelevantRy> so I guess I have to look at the RAID support for the distro first
[03:45] <BeShaMo> I'm having problems with the Nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu so I want to install the ones from the nvidia website, however that too is problematic since it claims that I don't seem to have the right kernel source, though I'm pretty sure I do
[03:46] <RelevantRy> is ubuntu primarily a desktop enviornment
[03:46] <frogzoo> Canopus: it's probably to do with your timezone setting - daylight saving or some such
[03:46] <lupine_85> BeShaMo: you need linux-headers installed
[03:46] <dalfz> i have ati video card, is there an xorg app that i can use to extend the desktop to my second monitor?
[03:46] <ootput> BeShaMo: how did you reach that conclusion?
[03:46] <frogzoo> RelevantRy: no, it's primarily both server & client
[03:46] <RelevantRy> thanks for the link ubotu
[03:46] <FurryNemesis> BeShaMo, what card do you have?
[03:46] <Canopus> frogzoo: i don't think so, because am in Asia/Karachi timezone where there are no daylight savings
[03:47] <RelevantRy> thanks for your help trogzoo
[03:47] <BeShaMo> geforce4 440 go
[03:47] <BeShaMo> (laptop)
[03:47] <frogzoo> dalfz: install fglrx-control
[03:47] <RelevantRy> i think I am going to stall ubuntu server and see what I think
[03:47] <BeShaMo> well, from the logfile the installer spit out
[03:47] <FurryNemesis> BeShaMo, me too - did you try install the legacy drivers from the repositories or the normal ones
[03:47] <FurryNemesis> ?
[03:48] <dalfz> frogzoo, thanks trying that
[03:48] <BeShaMo> both, but tv out doesn't work
[03:48] <Canopus> plus i have the same timezone in evolution ... and have no idea why it's behaving differently
[03:48] <FurryNemesis> mm, yeah, that's complicated.
[03:48] <BeShaMo> (legacy work but not with tv-out, glx doesn't work at all)
[03:49] <FurryNemesis> btw I'd advise against having 2 sets of drivers on there
[03:49] <FurryNemesis> uninstall the non-legacy ones
[03:49] <FurryNemesis> you don't need them
[03:49] <BeShaMo> I already did
[03:49] <FurryNemesis> ah, ok
[03:49] <FurryNemesis> glxgears doesn't work?
[03:50] <BeShaMo> I uninstalled both since I wanted to try the nvidia ones
[03:50] <FurryNemesis> and what happened with them?
[03:51] <dalfz> frogzoo, um, what is it installed as? where can i launch it?
[03:51] <frogzoo> dalfz: firglcontrol - should be an icon under accessories
[03:51] <lupine_85> BeShaMo: you need to "sudo apt-get install linux-header-`uname -r`" to get the stuff that the nVidia kernel module builds against
[03:51] <lupine_85> erm, linux-headers- rather
[03:52] <frogzoo> dalfz: fireglcontrol - should be an icon under accessories
[03:52] <BeShaMo> lupine_85, I've already got the headers
[03:52] <lupine_85> in that case it ought to compile fine
[03:52] <rambo3> BeShaMo, unpack kernel source and link it
[03:53] <dalfz> frogzoo, thanks
[03:53] <BeShaMo> lupine_85, rambo3:they compile, but don't want to install
[03:53] <lupine_85> I've used the nVidia package with linux-headers over pretty much every kernel Ubuntu have released since breezy :)
[03:53] <BeShaMo> ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.  This is most likely
[03:53] <BeShaMo>        because the kernel module was built using the wrong kernel source files.
[03:54] <lupine_85> can you manually specify the path to the kernel sources?
[03:54] <rambo3> BeShaMo, insmod  ? i
[03:54] <lupine_85> s/sources/headers/
[03:54] <rambo3> ok
[03:54] <lupine_85> I suppose its also possible that /usr/src/linux is symlinked to the wrong directory (it shouldn't exist at all)
[03:55] <rambo3> sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-src-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux
[03:55] <BeShaMo> I specified the path with the installer (only way it would allow me to compile the module) afterwards it tell me it can't load the module
[03:55] <jolt> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[03:55] <BeShaMo> can my gcc be the wrong version?
[03:55] <lupine_85> linux-src-`anything` doesn't exist :)
[03:55] <jolt> Anyone having problems with the backports repository?
[03:55] <wwallace_lap> they have sxcrips in kanotix
[03:55] <rambo3> then again i dont know if you need to make oldconfig from /boot/ . i never used nvidia
[03:55] <lupine_85> BeShaMo: no. the clue is in the error message
[03:55] <wwallace_lap> make sit very easy to work with linux
[03:55] <lupine_85> and /usr/src/linux *should not exist*
[03:56] <lupine_85> even linus says so ;)
[03:56] <BeShaMo> well, it does
[03:56] <lupine_85> and where is it symlinked to?
[03:56] <lupine_85> (ls -l)
[03:56] <BeShaMo> linux-headers-2.6.15-23      linux-source-2.6.15
[03:56] <BeShaMo> linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686  linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[03:56] <BeShaMo> content of /usr/src/
[03:56] <lupine_85> so where is /usr/src/linux ?
[03:57] <BeShaMo> I specified that the installer should use the linux-source dir
[03:57] <rambo3> BeShaMo,   ;sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15 /usr/src/linux
[03:57] <lupine_85> use the linux-headers directory instead
[03:57] <BeShaMo> ah
[03:57] <lupine_85> since that's what they're for
[03:57] <BeShaMo> I'll try that
[03:57] <lupine_85> (linux-source "can" work, but it's not a good idea in general)
[03:57] <lupine_85> and *don't* make the /usr/src/linux symlink
[03:58] <BeShaMo> I won
[03:58] <BeShaMo> 't
[03:58] <lupine_85> it's obsolete
[03:58] <BeShaMo> I'll try compile using the header
[03:58] <BeShaMo> maybe that
[03:58] <BeShaMo> 's where it went wrong
[03:59] <lupine_85> definitely where it went wrong
[03:59] <lupine_85> the module is probably binary-compatible, but the version magic is wrong
[03:59] <BeShaMo> sounds like what could be wrong
[03:59] <BeShaMo> well, I'll give it a go and come back crying if it failed:) cya later
[04:00] <lupine_85> :) cya
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Lupine..
[04:03] <Assassin5> is there any way to just run an install from the ubuntu CD and not boot the live system. Preferably a console based install, or do I need the alternate boot methods CD?
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Assassin5: You would need the alt, but is there a reason you dont want to run live to check hardware first?
[04:04] <Eddie> Hi guys, my computer freezes about every 3 minutes when using ubuntu
[04:04] <Eddie> its quite annoying :S
[04:05] <Eddie> ive run memtest86 and found no errors
[04:05] <BlueEagle> eddie: freezes as requires reboot or freezes as in stands still for a few seconds?
[04:05] <Assassin5> I already did, and the system works. Also it's a really old lappy, that can't do the res the installer wants, and becuase the CD drive is old and slow it takes about 20 mins to boot the live system
[04:05] <jolt> Iv given up on the whole live install and just gone to the alternate
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Eddie: did it do that with the livecd as well?
[04:05] <Eddie> stands still for a few seconds
[04:06] <Eddie> havent got the livecd to hand
[04:06] <Eddie> you think it might be the hdd?
[04:06] <BlueEagle> eddie: run top in a terminal and watch if something uses obscene amounts of processor memory at the time of the freeze.
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > eddie
[04:06] <tyima> sad
[04:07] <justin_> Can anyone install Bitchx? - It seems that you cannot do it through Synaptic, it comes up with a 404 not found, for the libmysql dependancy
[04:07] <BlueEagle> processor or memory*
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> justin_,  that sounds like the repository may be down. or some how got a messed up file.
[04:07] <Eddie> I never had this problem in windows :S so surely it cant be the hdd
[04:07] <BlueEagle> justin_: Sounds like a broken repository. Did you use !easysource to set up your sources.list?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> justin_,  could edit the sources.list and change reops
[04:08] <BlueEagle> eddie: Have you concidererd following my suggestion?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Eddie: It is a quick way to see if it is the os or hardware?
[04:08] <pws69> need help setting up WPA-PSK... i have got wpa_supplicant
[04:08] <jolt> Well i was having problems with the checksum on the backports repository today
[04:08] <justin_> Dr_Willis: Yeah, or I could just compile it myself ... which I think I will do .. was just to let people know if it happens to them..
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Eddie: How many changes have you dont to the std install?
[04:09] <dalfz> frogzoo, i got a pic on my secondary monitor, but the resolution and refresh rate is wrong. what app can i use to change this?
[04:09] <pws69> Seveas: need help setting up WPA-PSK... ive got wpa_supplicant
[04:09] <Eddie> Jack_Sparrow: I have installed a few updates and apps etc
[04:09] <Eddie> Jack_Sparrow: nothing out of the ordinary
[04:09] <Eddie> BlueEagle: doing top
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Please try BlueEagle's suggestion
[04:10] <Eddie> top doesnt update during the freeze
[04:10] <BlueEagle> eddie: I see. Does the freeze include the mouse cursor as well?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Eddie: Did you use any scripts like Automatix or easyubuntu to install anything
[04:10] <Eddie> yeah
[04:11] <Eddie> Jack_Sparrow: nope
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Gawd , I wish people wouldnt do that
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Eddie: cool
[04:11] <Eddie> just at the end of each freeze a load of kacpids come up to the top
[04:11] <BlueEagle> eddie: Which graphics card have you got and which driver are you using?
[04:12] <frogzoo> dalfz: best just directly edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <ahbe> hi all. Still need help with apt
[04:12] <BlueEagle> eddie: ahh apci.
[04:12] <frogzoo> !fixres > dalfz
[04:12] <BlueEagle> eddie: You might want to disable that.
[04:12] <Ex0d3uS> hi all
[04:12] <dalfz> frogzoo, thanks
[04:12] <ahbe> hi all. Still need help with apt. Can ne1 help?
[04:12] <BlueEagle> eddie: try: sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop
[04:13] <jrib> ahbe: just ask your question
[04:13] <rekster> hmmm why would a wireless pc card create a 'eth2' AND a 'wifi0'
[04:13] <dalfz> frogzoo, btw, is it possible to run different resolutions/refreshs on separate screens?
[04:13] <rekster> which one would i configure, eth2 or wifi0?
[04:13] <BlueEagle> dalfz: dual head system and ie 1024x768 on one and 1280x960 on the other?
[04:14] <rekster> im confused
[04:14] <ahbe> ok. get a "111 Connection refused". Works with dhcp, but not with fix-ip
[04:14] <frogzoo> dalfz: yep
[04:14] <ayeizajedi> Is there a compariable piece of software for KDE's apollon ??
[04:14] <ayeizajedi> ^^for gnome
[04:14] <BlueEagle> !info apollon
[04:14] <ubotu> apollon: KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 445 kB, installed size 1684 kB
[04:14] <dalfz> BlueEagle, yes. 1400x1050 and 1280x1024
[04:15] <paradizelost> dalfz: are you running an ATI Card?
[04:15] <rekster> hello?
[04:15] <georgy> ahbe: you got a gateway ?
[04:15] <dalfz> paradizelost, yes, radeon mobility 9700, fglrx
[04:16] <paradizelost> dalfz: aticonfig --initial=dual-screen
[04:16] <rekster> does anyone hear me?
 yes. Company network
[04:16] <paradizelost> dalfz: i'm running 1024x768 on my tv, and 1280x1024 on my LCD
[04:16] <Eddie> what is hald
[04:16] <dalfz> paradizelost, will that give optimal resolution/refresh rate?
[04:16] <georgy> ahbe : acces to internet ?
[04:16] <BlueEagle> dalfz: Just set it up in your xorg.conf. Something like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23321
[04:16] <frogzoo> rekster: not a thing
[04:16] <paradizelost> dalfz: it should autodetect the appropriate settings
 yes
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[04:17] <dalfz> BlueEagle, paradizelost thanks, i'll check it out
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > rekster
[04:17] <Eddie> theres a lot of them running
[04:17] <rekster> huh?
[04:17] <georgy> ahbe : fix-ip or dhcp ?
[04:17] <BlueEagle> eddie: hardware abstraction layer daemon
[04:17] <Eddie> ah, I need that
[04:17] <BlueEagle> eddie: did you stop the acpid?
[04:17] <ahbe> georgy: static ip
[04:17] <rekster> !ask
[04:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:17] <Eddie> yeah
[04:17] <Eddie> still getting the freezes
[04:17] <georgy> ahde : strange
[04:18] <Vegeta^> Where/how do I change the action of the power button?
[04:18] <ahbe> georgy: thats y im here
[04:18] <BlueEagle> rekster: We don't hear you per-say. But we can read what you type.
[04:18] <ahbe> georgy: all the gurus
[04:18] <rekster> lol ok just making sure
[04:18] <georgy> ahbe : can you ping a repo
[04:18] <paradizelost> rekster: what's your issue? just ask your question;)
[04:18] <rekster> thats funny though eheh
[04:19] <rekster> not really a big issue, just confused why installing a wireless pc card in a laptop creates a 'ETH2' AND a 'WIFI0' and which one im supposed to be configuring
[04:19] <Eddie> kacpid is still running for some reason
[04:19] <paradizelost> rekster: if you do an ifconfig -a, does one of them show a mac of 00:00:00:00:00?
[04:19] <kendals> How do I make an ISO image of a CD in the terminal?
[04:19] <justin_> rekster: Eth2, is what communicates with your PC ---- Wifi0 is what communicates with Eth2.
[04:19] <paradizelost> kendals: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/iso
[04:20] <dsatch> kenals: mkisofs?
[04:20] <rekster> heh but i have built-in wireless and it only has an eth1 not any wifi along with it, the inconsistency is what i find confusing
[04:20] <paradizelost> dsatch: mkisofs makes an iso filesystem image out of a given set of files, he wants ot make an image of a pre-existing iso filesystem
[04:20] <paradizelost> rekster: do an iwconfig
[04:20] <ahbe> georgy: yes
[04:20] <paradizelost> rekster: it should only list 1 interface with wireless extensions
[04:21] <dsatch> sorry, should have been: kendals: mkisofs?
[04:21] <apple-gunkies> Hi, I got a used PC and suspect memory problems, is there a way I can tell the kernel to partition off portions of RAM to troubleshoot?
[04:21] <rekster> stupid built-in broadcom that i had to use ndiswrapper to make work, but im installing a second pc-card wireless controller that doesnt require this ndiswrapper
[04:21] <paradizelost> dsatch: i know, but mkisofs isn't what he's looking for
[04:21] <kendals> thanks paradizelost
[04:21] <lupine_85> apple-gunkies: the memtest86+ will let you test the memory for errors
[04:21] <rekster> iwconfig displays both eth2 AND wifi0 with identical info
[04:22] <dsatch> paradizelost: yeah sorry paradizelost, I read your reply but still wanted to correct my spelling :)
[04:22] <kendals> dsatch- hope you didn't incur the nasty problems i did with that guide the other day for cimpiz_aiglx, lol.
[04:22] <lupine_85> but you can't "mark bad blocks" in RAM! :D
[04:22] <rekster> thats wacked
[04:22] <paradizelost> kendals: just  be aware, that it may take a while, and dd doesn't give any output until it's done
[04:22] <kendals> let's just say i want to forget the past 2 days...
[04:22] <dsatch> kendals: sure did mate :p
[04:22] <georgy> ahbe : some proxy issue ?
[04:22] <kendals> thanks paradizelost- yeah, done it before but couldn't remember the cmd.
[04:22] <rekster> u said iwconfig should onyl display one?
[04:22] <apple-gunkies> I can run memtest all night without issue
[04:22] <apple-gunkies> but I still suspect memory
[04:22] <lupine_85> then your RAM is fine
[04:22] <paradizelost> rekster: if you have 2 wireless cards, you'll get 2 listed
[04:22] <apple-gunkies> 'cause I can't think what else the trouble might be
[04:22] <erUSUL> kendals: cat /dev/hdxx > image.iso should work
[04:23] <ahbe> georgy: mayb. Have no proxy set, however when using dhcp, proxy was set
[04:23] <paradizelost> rekster: if you do an ifconfig -a, compare the mac address to the one printed on the pc-card
[04:23] <rekster> no the other one is disabled, it would normally be 'ETH1'
[04:23] <lupine_85> modern wireless drivers can have more than one wireless interface each
[04:23] <paradizelost> erUSUL: that is a terrible way
[04:23] <rekster> iwconfig shows ETH2 AND WIFI0 for the same card
[04:23] <ahbe> georgy: how can i make sure?
[04:23] <lupine_85> rekster: that's normal
[04:23] <dsatch> kendals: took me a while to get it working again lol
[04:23] <rekster> oh ok
[04:23] <lupine_85> wifi0 is the 'controlling' interface
[04:23] <erUSUL> paradizelost: because....?
[04:23] <RideSn> ive got a question regarding eclipse, java in dapper
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> apple-gunkies: What problems are you having that make you suspect ram?
[04:23] <georgy> ahbe : ask your administrator ?
[04:23] <rekster> lupine_85: so which one do i configure, or does it not matter?
[04:23] <lupine_85> you should configure eth1
[04:23] <lupine_85> or eth2
[04:24] <paradizelost> erUSUL: because cat is for text stuff, not for binary data
[04:24] <lupine_85> whatever it's called
[04:24] <rekster> and leave wifi0 alone?
[04:24] <paradizelost> erUSUL: and that function is what DD is for
[04:24] <ahbe> georgy: traceroute goes straight to the gw
[04:24] <lupine_85> rekster: usually yes
[04:24] <rekster> ok fair enough
[04:24] <rekster> just confusing to see 2 entries for the same device
[04:24] <lupine_85> you'll need it in some circumstances, depending on the exact driver you're using
[04:24] <rekster> but ill just ignore one i guess
[04:24] <ClayG> anyone know how to change switch back and forth between channels you are in , while using irssi? I thought it was alt-number if "scree" to change to but that is just closing them
[04:24] <lupine_85> (e.g. some require you to set the essid on the master device)
[04:24] <rekster> ah ok
[04:25] <ahbe> georgy: we have a proxy, but my traffic isn't going there
[04:25] <lupine_85> you do need it if you want to create a third interface for the wireless card
[04:25] <lupine_85> (e.g. if you want a monitor interface)
[04:25] <georgy> ahbe : ?
[04:25] <kendals> dsatch: i didn't get it going agian at all:(
[04:25] <rekster> ah well thats what i will want to do
[04:25] <rekster> so good to know
[04:25] <erUSUL> paradizelost: that is the beauty of unix.... cat does not care (and shouldn't) what type of data it's processing. it only takes the data and dump it to stdout
[04:25] <wdamn> Hi, I've installed ubuntu ppc version on a g5
[04:25] <kendals> also, my mouse has died (optical bit)
[04:25] <kendals> anyway
[04:25] <rekster> wanna play with kismet =)
[04:25] <dsatch> kendals: yeah neither did I, I was talking about getting X working again :D
[04:25] <RideSn> anyone ready to field one regarding eclipse?
[04:25] <lupine_85> dd is likely going to be faster than cat though
[04:25] <ahbe> georgy: what?
[04:25] <apple-gunkies> computer will run fine for a while, then things will start crashing. If I restsrt the program that just crashed, it is likely to crash again almost instantly, leading me to suspect that it's still loaded in a bad area. It'll usually run fine a good while while I'm using it, but the screensavers will make it lock up pretty quickly
[04:25] <wdamn> start the graphic but no way to use keyboard or mouse
[04:26] <trainer> !ask
[04:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <ClayG> never mind fags
[04:26] <georgy> ahbe: have not so much experience with proxy
[04:26] <kendals> dsatch: yeah, haha i didn't even get any of that working again...my module .so files were deleted somehow...
[04:26] <paradizelost> apple-gunkies: sounds like a memory issue
[04:26] <rekster> thanks guys
[04:26] <apple-gunkies> right :)
[04:26] <RideSn> im having the exact problem described here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109600
[04:26] <RideSn> except in dapper
[04:26] <dsatch> kendals: lol, not trying that again
[04:27] <RideSn> how can i taylor the solution listed for dapper?
[04:27] <trainer> RideSn, where did you get the jdk
[04:27] <RideSn> apt-get
[04:27] <kendals> dsatch: ROTFL, me neither- i'm gonna wait for edgy- apparently it'll be WAY easier then :P
[04:27] <ahbe> georgy: i don't think it's a proxy issue
[04:28] <ootput> which scripts should I modify in order to load arbitrary apps at login time (apps such as numlockx, or xmodmap (keyswap))?
[04:28] <willyTells> hello everbody
[04:28] <Tonren> How do I access logs generated during bootup?
[04:28] <ootput> i.e, where are the relevent xsession files located?
[04:28] <Tonren> Are there any?
[04:28] <paradizelost> RideSn: try removing the /usr/bin/java file and linking /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java to /usr/bin/java
[04:28] <ootput> Tonren: browse /var/log/
[04:28] <trainer> RideSn, is it in a different location than /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/
[04:28] <ootput> Tonren: dmesg | less should get you started
[04:28] <Tonren> ootput: I'm there... syslog doesn't have anything in it
[04:28] <RideSn> trainer: let me check
[04:28] <paradizelost> RideSn: by default, /usr/bin/java isn't the sun java package
[04:28] <paradizelost> but the sun java package is installed.
[04:28] <georgy> ahbe: strange, cause you can do it indhcp, maybe a firewall issue ?
[04:29] <ootput> Tonren: that's the only file in /var/log/?
[04:29] <Tonren> ootput: dmesg only mentions a few things about eth0 (i'm trying to debug my network configuration), and none of them are what i'm looking for...
[04:29] <Tonren> ootput: Nope, but most logs are for other apps.  i'm still looking
[04:29] <ootput> Tonren: grep eth0 /var/log/**/*
[04:29] <paradizelost> Tonren: dmesg is the boot-up log
[04:29] <Tonren> ootput: ooh, maybe kern.log
[04:30] <Eddie> this happens when I try to remove acpid
[04:30] <Eddie> The following packages will be REMOVED
[04:30] <Eddie>   acpi-support acpid gnome-power-manager gnome-session
[04:30] <Eddie>   powermanagement-interface
[04:30] <Eddie> im assuming I dont want to remove gnome-session
[04:30] <Eddie> but considering kacpid is whats hogging cpu all the time
[04:30] <Eddie> I see no other option
[04:31] <trainer> Does ubuntu block port 80 by default? I can't get apache to start if I specifically tell it to listen on port 80.
[04:31] <ahbe> georgy: firewall is open. apt uses 80?
[04:31] <lupine_85> no firewall by default
[04:31] <willyTells> I'm trying to update a package, but I can't.
[04:31] <paradizelost> trainer: no
[04:31] <georgy> ahbe : don't know
[04:31] <RideSn> trainer: eclipse> preferences is using a jre from /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0
[04:32] <paradizelost> trainer: that usually means you have something else running on port 80
[04:32] <paradizelost> trainer: what file are you setting the port in?
[04:32] <georgy> ahbe : i guess
[04:32] <trainer> apache2.conf
[04:32] <paradizelost> RideSn: if you scroll up i told you where to fix that
[04:32] <willyTells> Can someone help me?
[04:32] <paradizelost> trainer: it should be /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[04:33] <LadyNikon> willyTells: maybe explain whats going on.. and someone may be able to jump in
[04:33] <wdamn> 2
[04:33] <paradizelost> RideSn: try removing the /usr/bin/java file and linking /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java to /usr/bin/java
[04:33] <RideSn> paradizelost: oh i see it now. . ill give it a try
[04:34] <trainer> paradizelost, yes ports.conf says Listen 80, so I was just stepping on my own toes
[04:34] <paradizelost> yep
[04:35] <willyTells> I'm trying to install wxPython, but it has a dependence library libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) and I have installed libgcc1 (1:4.0.2). I'm using synaptic.
[04:35] <paradizelost> willyTells: try installing build-essential
[04:35] <trainer> paradizelost: but I can't get to the machine from outside my network, I thought it was the wrong port, now I have no idea why
[04:36] <lupine_85> trainer: have you enabled port forwarding in the router (assuming you're using NAT)?
[04:36] <paradizelost> trainer: is the box directly on the internet? have you forwarded your ports?
[04:36] <trainer> lupine_85: yes
[04:36] <jrib> willyTells: you are installing python-wxgtk2.6 ?
[04:36] <trainer> yes
[04:36] <paradizelost> trainer: to the right IP address?
[04:36] <paradizelost> trainer: what type of router is it?
[04:37] <lupine_85> netstat -a |grep www will show you what interfaces apache is bound to
[04:37] <trainer> doublechecking... yes
[04:37] <trainer> I forwarded port 22 as well and I can ssh to it
[04:37] <Xappe> I have problems getting fglrx big desktop with pairmode 1280x1024+1024x768 to work
[04:37] <willyTells> jrib: yes, I'm trying to install that, but I can't.
[04:37] <kendals> What do you guys recommend as the best IM? I have gaim2b3, but was wondering if there are any IMs that let ME make those MSN custom emoticons- gaim can see the custom ones from contacts, but not make any :(
[04:38] <lupine_85> kopete?
[04:38] <lupine_85> (needs the KDE libs)
[04:38] <jrib> willyTells: can you pastebin the output from 'sudo apt-get install python-wxgtk2.6' and your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:38] <kendals> i don't think it lets you make custom ones lupine..
[04:38] <kendals> i've installed it before.
[04:38] <kendals> and although it's nice, yeah...no custom emoticons :(
[04:38] <RideSn> paradizelost: i removed /usr/bin/java fine but i dont have  /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun
[04:38] <lupine_85> oh, make...
[04:38] <willyTells> paradizelost: I have installed build-essential.
[04:38] <lupine_85> Inkscape then install
[04:38] <paradizelost> RideSn: and your running dapper?
[04:38] <RideSn> paradizelost: yes
[04:39] <trainer> lupine_85, I see some weird ports from netstat
[04:39] <trainer> paradizelost it's a wrt54gl, with dd-wrt
[04:39] <paradizelost> RideSn: ahh, nm, i forgot a step.
[04:39] <willyTells> jrib: yes I can. Where should I paste the output?
[04:39] <lupine_85> trainer: you're interested in the ones with 'www' in the 4th column
[04:39] <paradizelost> RideSn: let me go look up the missing step...
[04:39] <RideSn>  paradizelost: n/p
[04:39] <jrib> willyTells: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org will do, just give us a link afterwards
[04:39] <scud_> on an ols 133mhz macine, i can load and use the ubuntu server cd in low memory mode but after I installed ubuntu and drive to boot from hd, grub will get all the way to 'boot' and the macine will reboot
[04:39] <lupine_85> the rest (www in column 5) are your connections to other websites
[04:40] <scud_> anything I could do to try and figure out why this is happening?
[04:40] <lupine_85> netstat -a |grep www |grep LISTEN would be better, actually
[04:40] <kendals> kendals: test
[04:41] <paradizelost> RideSn: go to java.sun.com
[04:41] <trainer> lupine_85, OK, so I think this is telling me it's just listening
[04:41] <trainer> tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN
[04:41] <lupine_85> is that the only line?
[04:41] <trainer> no
[04:42] <lupine_85> what does the one starting 'tcp' (if there is any) with state LISTEN say?
[04:42] <paradizelost> RideSn: go to Java SE at the right
[04:42] <lupine_85> that one shows you're accessible via IPv6
[04:42] <lupine_85> (useless to you, most likely)
[04:42] <paradizelost> RideSn: click download at the right of Java Runtime Environment 5.0 update 8
[04:42] <RideSn>  paradizelost: ok im java se
[04:43] <paradizelost> RideSn: download the linux self extracting file
[04:43] <trainer> lupine_85: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23323
[04:43] <RideSn>  paradizelost: ok will do
[04:43] <i4get> wow
[04:43] <paradizelost> RideSn: there's more
[04:43] <willyTells> jrib: I put it with the name "wxPython!"
[04:44] <RideSn>  paradizelost: go ahead
[04:44] <jrib> willyTells: ok
[04:44] <willyTells> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23324
[04:44] <paradizelost> RideSn: i'm trying to find the rest
[04:45] <trainer> lupine_85 there is no tcp in LISTEN state
[04:45] <paradizelost> RideSn: when you get that downlaoded, now you need to install fakeroot java-package and java-common
[04:46] <RideSn>  paradizelost: ok. .can i install those with apt-get
[04:46] <RideSn> ?
[04:46] <jrib> willyTells: # wxPython repository on Starship <-- why not just use the wxpython from the ubuntu repositories?
[04:46] <paradizelost> RideSn: yes, do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:46] <RideSn>  paradizelost: yes
[04:46] <IceGuest_5> hello
[04:46] <i4get> hello IceGuest
[04:46] <RideSn>  paradizelost:which should i install first?
[04:46] <IceGuest_5> I have a ibook
[04:47] <IceGuest_5> and I am trying to fix a bonobo problem
[04:47] <paradizelost> RideSn: just put sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package
[04:47] <IceGuest_5> anyone cvan help
[04:47] <paradizelost> RideSn: IIRC, java-common is a dependency of java-package
[04:47] <IceGuest_5> I have an ibook with ubuntu
[04:47] <ahbe> georgy: thx neway
[04:48] <IceGuest_5> I need help
[04:48] <ahbe> ne1 else here in the know about apt
[04:48] <IceGuest_5> yes what about apt
[04:48] <RideSn>  paradizelost: ok so just to be sure, do sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package rather than the others you menchioned
[04:48] <willyTells> rjib: ok, I'll try that option. But, I'll continous geting the same message.
[04:48] <georgy> ahbe : np
 go ahead and ask your question and lets see what we can find
[04:48] <IceGuest_5> I need guidance for a ibook with ubuntu
[04:49] <paradizelost> RideSn: java-package will install java-common
[04:49] <jrib> willyTells: comment the last two lines and be sure to run 'sudo apt-get update', then try installing wxpython again
[04:49] <IceGuest_5> I have a problem with bonobo-activation-server
[04:49] <willyTells> rjib: ok
[04:49] <RideSn> paradizelost: ok ill try it and report back
[04:49] <IceGuest_5> this is how it starts
[04:49] <yepla> hi
[04:49] <IceGuest_5> I login
[04:49] <IceGuest_5> and before it loads the gui
[04:49] <trainer> lupine_85, anything?
[04:50] <IceGuest_5> the error screens start poping up
[04:50] <yepla> i have installed ubuntu daper and when i ctrl alt f1 i can't switch to term !? why ?
[04:50] <ahbe> Need help: apt-get works whith dhcp & proxy, does not work with static ip. ne ideas?
[04:50] <paradizelost> ahbe: have you set ur default gateway?
[04:50] <wdamn> ubuntu crashes on g5 - is there a way to tell yaboot to start without X ?
[04:50] <IceGuest_5> i4get is this good enough
[04:50] <paradizelost> ahbe: what's the output of the route command?
 sorry yes it is I do not know the I Book sorry again
[04:51] <ahbe> paradizelost: 111 connection refused
[04:51] <IceGuest_5> no need for sorry
[04:51] <IceGuest_5> me myself am new to this
[04:51] <paradizelost> ahbe: what is that error?
[04:51] <paradizelost> ahbe: it's not the output of typing route
[04:51] <IceGuest_5> the problem mentions havieng something to do with hwclock
[04:51] <ahbe> sry
[04:51] <TokenBad> ok I just did a clean install of ubuntu...did all the updates...and it will not open up evolution...synaptic crashes and other little problems...is there an update I shouldn't have got?
[04:52] <paradizelost> TokenBad: sounds like you could have a bad disc or bad hardware, or just generally something went wrong in the install
[04:52] <willyTells> jrib: I modified the source.list, and it's working now. I'm installing the python-wxgtk2.6.
[04:52] <Sotai> is it possible to run compiz-quinnstorm with an intel card?
[04:52] <paradizelost> RideSn: how's that command working?
[04:52] <TokenBad> guess so...will try a reinstall again I guess
[04:53] <paradizelost> TokenBad: be sure to run a cd media check
[04:53] <willyTells> jrib: apt-get is downloading 5MB. I hope it work well. Thanks a lot!
[04:53] <IceGuest_5> anywhere i can go for mac support
 ctrl alt f4 starts the terminal in ubuntu
[04:54] <nearfar> give a filename, how to find which .deb it belongs to?
[04:54] <ahbe> paradizelost: line 1: 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
[04:54] <nearfar> eg: /usr/bin/man
[04:54] <yepla> i4get, i am under gdm
[04:54] <emil_p8> hello
[04:54] <yepla> and i have no windows manager
[04:55] <paradizelost> ahbe: use pastebin
[04:55] <yepla> and i can't go to terminal to install that
[04:55] <paradizelost> ahbe: and put the whole thing
[04:55] <ahbe> paradizelost: line 2 default 192.168.0.254 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
[04:55] <paradizelost> ahbe: what is your static ip?
[04:55] <paradizelost> include netmask please
[04:55] <paradizelost> yepla: what you mean you have no window manager?
[04:56] <i4get> isnt gdm the manager?
[04:56] <ahbe> 192.168.0.129
[04:56] <paradizelost> yepla: you got logged in and nothing happened? try changing your session to failsafe
[04:56] <paradizelost> i4get: gdm is the login manager, gnome-session is the window manager
[04:56] <IceGuest_5> anyone here know where ic can go for mac support
[04:56] <i4get> oh thank you
[04:56] <paradizelost> !mac
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <emil_p8> I have a severe Xserver crash on shutdown problem (it seems even the kernel locks, no ssh nor magic keys reboot sequence), appeared after the well-known update. The problem is it did not dissapear after the fixed x-server upgrade. Graphic card ati x700 pro. Anyone with the same problem?
[04:57] <yepla> paradizelost, yes but i have not xterm installed and i don't have a shell
[04:57] <yepla> i would like switch to ctrl alt f1 to install xterm
[04:58] <yepla> it is impossible
[04:58] <paradizelost> yepla: if you reboot, go to the recovery mode kernel that will drop you to a shell
[04:58] <paradizelost> yepla: are you in gnome? what are you using to be in IRC?
[04:59] <paradizelost> RideSn: you having any luck yet?
[04:59] <rwscold> hey there  i have a xp and ubuntu computers on a network when i try and access shared folders on my ubuntu machine from my xp machine it askes me for a username and password what am i supposed to put there its not my admin account so i dunno
[04:59] <yepla> paradizelost, i use my second computer
[05:00] <paradizelost> rwscold: how did you configure samba? user mode? did you create samba users? or sync unix-samba?
[05:00] <yepla> but i don't understand why i can have a shell when i try ctrl alt f1
[05:00] <wtroche> is it possible to install ubuntu on a partion that FC5 already resides on without affecting that distro, or will I need to repartion my drive and start from scratch
[05:00] <paradizelost> wtroche: you'll need to repartition
[05:00] <RideSn> paradizelost: i ran apt-get install fakeroot java-package and install went fine. . .now i will install the runtime enviroment 5 update 8. . how do i install that .bin file?
[05:01] <rwscold> paradizelost: i have no clue i just went to shared folders it said i needed samba so i said neato it installed it and then i linked to the folder i wanted and whamo
[05:01] <ahbe> paradizelost: ideas?
[05:01] <wtroche> bummer thats what I though, thanks paradizelost
[05:01] <paradizelost> RideSn: ok, now fakeroot make-jpkg sunfilename.bin
[05:02] <paradizelost> ahbe: what's your subnet mask?
[05:02] <ahbe> paradizelost: 255.255.255.0
[05:02] <paradizelost> paradizelost: can you tracepath www.google.com
[05:02] <paradizelost> ?
[05:02] <yepla> but i don't understand why i can have a shell when i try ctrl alt f1 why ?
[05:02] <ahbe> paradizelost: an i can access the web quite normal
[05:03] <rwscold> paradizelost: i have no clue i just went to shared folders it said i needed samba so i said neato it installed it and then i linked to the folder i wanted and whamo
[05:03] <paradizelost> RideSn: when that last command finishes, you dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:03] <willyTells> thanks for help me jrib.
[05:03] <paradizelost> ahbe: sounds like your proxy isn't set up right at that point
[05:03] <paradizelost> rwscold: hmm.  you'll need to do some more configuration then
[05:03] <paradizelost> !samba
[05:03] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:03] <josh_> question : is there a way to recussively chmod 775 on a usermade directory i copied from a winblows box?
[05:04] <rwscold> k buddy i will give it a shoit thanks
[05:04] <paradizelost> josh_ chmod 755 -Rfv /path/to/directory
[05:04] <josh_> chmod 775 -R
[05:04] <josh_> fv?
[05:04] <paradizelost> josh_ f is force, v is verbose
[05:04] <IceGuest_5> anybody do macs in hee
[05:04] <IceGuest_5> here
[05:04] <josh_> gotcha
[05:04] <paradizelost> josh_ and a sudo wouldn't be a bad idea
[05:04] <josh_> thanks
[05:04] <cgarcia> rubio
[05:04] <josh_> im root
[05:05] <paradizelost> k
[05:05] <paradizelost> just checking
[05:05] <finnbo> yepla: because linux has virtual terminals under each of ctrl-alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f2, etc.
[05:05] <josh_> :)
[05:05] <IceGuest_5> anybody do macs in here
[05:05] <josh_> never tried a recursive  chmod before so i wanted to ask if it even existed
[05:05] <yepla> finnbo, i would like go to virtual terminal
[05:05] <yepla> but it is impossible why ?
[05:05] <josh_> macs? or emacs?
[05:05] <finnbo> ah I see
[05:05] <paradizelost> josh_ he's talking macintosh
[05:05] <josh_> ahh
[05:06] <josh_> lol why would i want a mac? :P
[05:06] <paradizelost> RideSn: how goes that conversion?
[05:06] <josh_> mac is just trying to be like us anyway lol
[05:06] <finnbo> I don't know :)
[05:06] <JosefK> I don't think he asked that josh_?
[05:06] <JosefK> IceGuest_5: i've had ubuntu running on ppc before, 'sup?
[05:06] <ahbe> paradizelost: 1:myMachine; 2:Gateway; 3:Gateway; 4:the net
[05:06] <josh_> he didn't
[05:06] <RideSn> paradizelost: ok i ran fakeroot make- jpkg jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin and appears to of been successful
[05:07] <finnbo> has anybody seen the behavior where an ethernet interface is configured for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:07] <josh_> but i figured wsince i couldn't answer his questions i would make some of my own
[05:07] <finnbo> and dhcp and the network configuration work
[05:07] <finnbo> yet a /sbin/ifconfig shows a 169.* IP address rather than the expected DHCP assigned 192.* ?
[05:08] <paradizelost> RideSn: k. now do an ls, there should be a .deb in the directory now
[05:08] <finnbo> everything seems to work fine, I just can't figure out why it's displaying the self assigned IP
[05:08] <jrib> WildZeck: np
[05:08] <rwscold> paradizelost: I am totally confused here i havent had to do anything with terminal to make the folder i want visible from my other machine i never assigned a password though so i am not totally sure what to do
[05:08] <IceGuest_5> mac is ok
[05:08] <i4get> how many nicks are in the machine?
[05:08] <RideSn> paradizelost: yes their is
[05:08] <JosefK> IceGuest_5: try not to swallow the bait, he was trying to start a flame war.  you having trouble running Ubuntu on PPC, or intel macs?
[05:08] <paradizelost> finnbo: 169.254.*.* is an APIPA - Automatic Private IP Addressing - address
[05:08] <finnbo> right
[05:08] <paradizelost> RideSn: now run dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:09] <rwscold> i4get
[05:09] <rwscold> ???
[05:09] <rwscold> me?
[05:09] <i4get> no rwscold
[05:09] <rwscold> k
[05:09] <finnbo> it just seems odd that that is what ifconfig is displaying as my inet addr
[05:09] <paradizelost> finnbo: thats the address you get when you can't find a DHCP server, or if you are using internet connection sharing in windows sometimes
[05:09] <finnbo> when the DHCP assigned address is working
[05:10] <DethKlok> Can someone give me alittle insight on editing the interface file to make eth0 have a static ip
[05:10] <i4get> was just wondering if finnbo was seeing a network card that wasnt in use
[05:10] <IceGuest_5> anybody does mac
[05:10] <finnbo> I think only one NIC
[05:10] <finnbo> (i4get)
[05:10] <JosefK> yes IceGuest_5
[05:10] <i4get> k
[05:10] <RideSn> paradizelost: i had to run it as sudo, but it worked
[05:10] <paradizelost> DethKlok: auto eth1
[05:10] <paradizelost> iface eth1 inet static
[05:10] <paradizelost>                    address 172.16.0.1
[05:10] <paradizelost>                    netmask 255.255.0.0
[05:10] <paradizelost> sorry about the lenght
[05:11] <paradizelost> RideSn: k. now, you make that link we talked about earlier
[05:11] <DethKlok> paradizelost: all good so i just need address and netmask how do i restart the network service via commandline
[05:11] <RideSn> paradizelost: ok ill try and report back
[05:11] <paradizelost> DethKlok: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:11] <paradizelost> RideSn: ln -s  /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java /usr/bin/java
[05:12] <DethKlok> paradizelost: thats what i thought but i was working with debian and it had ifupdown and ifupdown-clean services
[05:12] <JosefK> paradizelost: have you installed java seperately, or using apt?
[05:12] <rwscold> hey there  i have a xp and ubuntu computers on a network when i try and access shared folders on my ubuntu machine from my xp machine it askes me for a username and password what am i supposed to put there its not my admin account so i dunno I know nothing about samba all i know is it was virtually automatic when i went to shared folders under administration i only have one user account which is the admin account and that doesnt work as
[05:12] <JosefK> rwscold: run 'sudo smbpasswd *your username*' on the Ubuntu box to setup a password, then just use your username and that password
[05:12] <paradizelost> JosefK: made the .deb from the .bin w/ fakeroot, and dpkg -i
[05:12] <JosefK> paradizelost: you shouldn't place the links by hand then, use update-alternatives
[05:13] <LinuxCart> Hello
[05:13] <paradizelost> JosefK: ahh. k. i've just always manually done the links
[05:13] <dimitri> hi all
[05:13] <Sikon> how to reference the Windows key in gconf as a non-modifier key?\
[05:13] <Caplain> azureus doesnt work right, i start it and it shows the splash screen and does nothing until i run it again and then i get a blank window that does nothing
[05:13] <JosefK> paradizelost: sudo update-alternatives java; sudo update-alternatives jar
[05:13] <dimitri> can any1 help me with a grub issue
[05:13] <Sikon> I know it's <Super> when it's a modifier key
[05:14] <JosefK> paradizelost: you'll get a list, just select the Sun one, that way apt knows what you're using, and can fix it if you update/remove something
[05:14] <rwscold> JosefK u are my hero
[05:14] <IceGuest_5> my Ibook has a problem after logging in
[05:14] <JosefK> paradizelost: ack, sudo update-alternatives --config java :P my bad
[05:14] <paradizelost> JosefK: good to know.  none of the doc's i've seen suggested that
[05:14] <IceGuest_5> Error #1
[05:15] <IceGuest_5> Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.
[05:15] <drbreen> just use thunar ;)
[05:15] <IceGuest_5> There was a problem registering the panel with the bonobo-activation server.
 can you reboot and go into failsafe and get in?
[05:16] <ahbe> paradizelost: ne more ideas?
[05:16] <finnbo> hm I seem to have fixed it by messing with the networking control panel and deleting one of the "Locations"
[05:16] <paradizelost> ahbe: not at the moment
[05:16] <finnbo> that's what I get for configuring with both the GUI and by hand on the command line I guess
[05:16] <JosefK> IceGuest_5: that sounds like a /tmp problem.  get to a console and run 'sudo chmod 1777 /tmp'
[05:17] <linnuxxy> i use dapper... how to know if it support POSIX Threading Library (NPTL)?
[05:18] <wobster> Hi everyone. Just to get that right, all scripts in /etc/network/if-up will be executed when the startup script launches?
[05:18] <gean> hi all! i have hard problems to detect my laptop CD-Rom (no floppy!), is it possible to install from live CD, if yes where is this livd-cd ?!
[05:18] <RideSn> paradizelost: i guess i dont know how to make that shortcut for the new java file
[05:19] <paradizelost> RideSn: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:19] <paradizelost> pick #
[05:19] <paradizelost> pick # 3
[05:19] <RideSn> paradizelost: k
[05:19] <Kayn> hi
[05:19] <JosefK> gean: the ubuntu site doesn't even bother listing floppies anymore.  you can install from the live CD, yes, at http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:19] <linnuxxy> the other question i have can i replace gcc 4 shiped with ubuntu with gcc 3.4.x?
[05:19] <linnuxxy> and how?
[05:19] <gean> once more: Fresh laptop needs the right OS on it! ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso (burned) makes huge install problems... any1 any help (please) ?
[05:19] <TeePOG> evening
[05:20] <OFGB> heya. how do I install beep media player(bmp) in ubuntu?
[05:20] <i4get> ?
[05:20] <linnuxxy> join #ubuntu-server
[05:20] <josh_> is there a way to ftp as root?
[05:20] <LinuxCart> has anyone here get his computer to work as a bluetooth handsfree headset?
[05:20] <josh_> im using proftpd
[05:20] <gean> JosefK: thought,  ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso also has a live possibility installed, but there is none..
[05:20] <JosefK> gean: it should be right there on the desktop
[05:21] <thedash> anybody happen to know Japanese?
[05:21] <josh_> i have scripts running to mod the upload directory so files cantbe touched after being uploaded but i would like to be able to get in and move them
[05:21] <JosefK> linnuxxy: yes, you can 'sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4', and then I'd imagine 'sudo update-alternatives --config gcc' and select the 3.4 binary
[05:21] <Kayn> i have ubuntu (dapper gnome) installed and i'm having a problem with the make command. when i run it it says i need an updated kernell/core of ubuntu. anyone has the same problem? (i have the basics installed)
[05:22] <Caplain> how do i make exe files open with wine automatically?
[05:22] <josh_> click on them....
[05:22] <gean> JosefK: well: i'm booting from CD, then the menu on it has only : Install in text mode // Install in OEM mode  // Install a server // Check CD for... // Rescue ... // Mem test // Boot from 1st HD //
[05:22] <josh_> it should automatically be setup to handle .exe files
[05:22] <JosefK> gean: that's not the live CD ;)
[05:22] <JosefK> gean: looks like you've got the alternative or the server install disc, I'll get you a direct link...
[05:23] <Caplain> josh_: i had no idea it was so simple, thanks
[05:23] <Caplain> ...and then my computer blows up
[05:23] <JosefK> gean: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ - click the 'PC (Intel x86) Desktop CD' link
[05:24] <silent_scream> hey guys i have sound delay on firefox in site that use flash, any idea to fix it?
[05:24] <MetaMorfoziS> bye all
[05:24] <RideSn> sudo nautilus
[05:25] <RideSn> woops
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo nautilus
[05:25] <gean> JosefK: OK, i'll go first for desktop-cd... (also burned) BUT : it gave me NO chance to interact!  Error was : [ /bin/sh .... things not found... ]  i've googled the error, it was a long story... it seems, that there are special problems in recognizing my CD-ROM (&other HD-stuff)
[05:25] <JosefK> RideSn: gksudo nautilus --no-desktop
[05:25] <gean> JosefK i'll try again and report..
[05:25] <JosefK> gean: obscure :/ the live CD definitely shouldn't have those boot options
[05:26] <bahr> Anybody know if there are tools avaiable for Ubuntu, to scan a book into pdf?
[05:27] <gean> JosefK: The  ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso  was running, second item was Mounting root fs, there it breaks, gives me the error & a # sign...
[05:27] <JosefK> gean: if you had those boot options, I'd check it wasn't a bad download
[05:28] <JosefK> gean: looks like there was one false start, so it may be worth making sure you're getting the new one
[05:29] <gean> JosefK: the version i have is downloaded last 2-5 days... (and burned as an iso)....
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: did you try the option to check CD for...   and watch to see if there were errors?
[05:29] <gean> JosefK: ok, desktop-distro starting boot: in menu: Start or install ubuntu..
[05:30] <JosefK> gean: the first option, to load the desktop
[05:30] <JosefK> gean: fast connection ;)
[05:30] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: yes also tried it, lost in sand... i'll try it NOW again
[05:30] <silent_scream> I have sound delay on firefox in sites that use flash, any idea how to fix it?
[05:30] <gean> Going for: Check CD for defects..
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: If / When you burn it again, try to burn at a slower speed...
[05:31] <JosefK> slashdot giving error 503 for others? :/
[05:31] <abhijitb> ubuntu is not detecting the display driver in my dell 640m laptop
[05:32] <abhijitb> any one any idea
[05:32] <JosefK> abhijitb: they use an Intel 905/910 chip don't they?
[05:32] <josh_> how do i make root a users initial group?
[05:32] <Cheradinine> hi, i installed gcc but ruby's configure doesn't pick it up from $PATH, any idea whats going on?
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> josh_: not a good idea
[05:33] <FurryNemesis> !bfsd
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bfsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <abhijitb> JosefK, the motherboard i 945
[05:33] <FurryNemesis> !nfsd
[05:33] <josh_> groups -r user blah,blah,blah,root?
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <gean> JosefK, Jack_Sparrow: the following message appears: Uncomp.. Linux.. OK, booting the kenel// BusyBox v1.01 et caetera // Enter 'help' ... // !!! /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off !!! -- is this a common error ?!
[05:33] <josh_> or is it -R?
[05:33] <frogzoo> josh_: if they belong to root group, why belong to any others ?
[05:33] <willvdl> abhijitb, I have similar problem with i950
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: no
[05:33] <josh_> good point...
[05:34] <abhijitb> JosefK, and the vga is 995 i guesse
[05:34] <tonycarrelli> silent_scream: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[05:34] <JosefK> abhijitb: to get past the install, you may need to just use the vesa driver for a while.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189086 seems to cover that laptop well
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[05:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:34] <abhijitb> willvdl, did u get a solution
[05:34] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i'll burn the stuff (Md5sum checked!)  again (it was 10x anyhow, i think)
[05:34] <silent_scream> tonycarrelli,  yeap and then?
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: did you check the md5 you used to burn that iso?
[05:34] <JosefK> abhijitb: out of interest, did your laptop ship recently with Core 2 Duo? (I've got an order for a latitude with core 2 still in pre-production :/)
[05:34] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: yes!
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: Are you burning it from windows or linux?
[05:35] <abhijitb> JosefK, yes
[05:35] <wdamn> what's the livecd for ubuntu on ppc?
[05:35] <willvdl> abhijitb, nope running i810 driver but gnome doesn't quite get the resolution right
[05:35] <neutrinomass> (sorry, I know this has been asked a million times) How do I suspend from a terminal? /etc/acpi/sleep.sh doesn't seem to work ...
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> wdamn: Mac
[05:35] <josh_> ok... im about to make mass changes to my groups and users... if i do cp /etc/passwd /etc/passwd.bak ... will that keep the users/groups in tact just in case i screw something up?
[05:35] <josh_> or i need to get the shadow file too?
[05:35] <wdamn> Jack_Sparrow: Mac? what do you mean?
[05:35] <JosefK> josh_: you may want to backup /etc/shadow too
[05:35] <gean> It was from Windows burned, but saved on a store device from Linux (My 5.10 upgrade cannot burn any longer!)
[05:35] <josh_> ok
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> wdamn: I wasnt sure of your question but ppc  cd is for mac
[05:36] <tonycarrelli> silent_scream: # 6.6 How to install Flash Player (Macromedia Flash) Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox
[05:36] <gean> !mplayer
[05:36] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[05:36] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:36] <silent_scream> tonycarrelli, i've done that
[05:36] <wdamn> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I know - I wanna an ubuntu livecd, not an install
[05:36] <abhijitb> JosefK, only suse 10.1 is working fine, nothing else
[05:36] <h4ch3r> j #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <h4ch3r> ayo
[05:37] <h4ch3r> men
[05:37] <JosefK> abhijitb: you'd need to use the 915resolution program so the right resolution is identified, and use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select the right drivers
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> wdamn: I have a G4 but other than powering it on once to see if it booted I have never used it.
[05:37] <h4ch3r> I'm download of the kubuntu edgy eft knot2 !!
[05:37] <willvdl> JosefK, reconfiguring only allows me to use i810
[05:38] <h4ch3r> my Computer it's Pentium D 3.0 dual core 64bits
[05:38] <h4ch3r> i get amd64 or i386?
[05:38] <JosefK> willvdl: does it crash on starting X, or is it just an incorrect resolution?
[05:38] <i4get> 64
[05:38] <jbroome> i686 smp
[05:38] <willvdl> just resloution
[05:38] <JosefK> willvdl: 915resolution then ;)
[05:38] <abhijitb> JosefK, thaks, i will try that
[05:39] <willvdl> JosefK, how do I know what chipset it is using/supporting?
[05:39] <JosefK> willvdl: you can put it in a startup script, but you'd need to manually edit xorg.conf too - I'm trying to find a forum link for it
[05:39] <h4ch3r> ?
[05:39] <JosefK> willvdl: it doesn't do much to hardware, it just changes the values in-memory so X thinks it can use those resolutions
[05:40] <josh_> this ought to be interesting lol
[05:40] <willvdl> JosefK, what about "system->Preferences->Screen Resolution" giving the wrong values?
[05:40] <h4ch3r> 
[05:40] <JosefK> willvdl: that's the exact problem :) you'll use 915resolution to _force_ it to allow the specified depth/resolution
[05:40] <JosefK> willvdl: you change the xorg.conf to use that resolution by default too
[05:40] <gean> willvdl: try to reconfigure xserver-org... add more resolutions if needed...
[05:41] <willvdl> I've reconfigured and added the resolutions
[05:41] <JosefK> willvdl: http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/08/20/absolute-beginner-guide-915resolution/
[05:41] <willvdl> thanks
[05:41] <willvdl> Will hack some more
[05:41] <JosefK> willvdl: won't need to edit the file - ignore what that link says about installing 915resolution, you can just 'sudo aptitude install 915resolution' to get it
[05:42] <willvdl> okie
[05:42] <gean> willvdl: i also have that problem when booting from laptop and inserting TFT-display AFTER the boot process was done... sometimes i also do not have th whol menu. ``Solution'': I need to boot WITH TFT and better put it als only active display..
[05:43] <SeanTater> mount says this -> "mount to NFS server '192.168.1.15' failed", but there is a nfsd there, and I set up exports.. How might I fix that?
[05:45] <CromagDK> !mozilla-flash
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <CromagDK> !mozilla-plugin
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <bnovc> w/c
[05:46] <SeanTater> !restricted > CromagDK
[05:46] <CromagDK> ah ye
[05:46] <CromagDK> thnkx :)
[05:46] <SeanTater> CromagDK: yw
[05:47] <Tjoels> CromagDK: hej dr
[05:47] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[05:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:47] <jbroome> I have the dapper PPC livecd trying to boot on a dual g5, it shows splash screen, and gets to loading X, where it shows a black background, my cursor, then locks.  ideas?
[05:47] <CromagDK> hey Tjoels
[05:48] <kalaxmar> i've installed ettercap and I'm trying to edit its initialization file, etter.conf. However I'm not able to find it in the file system. Does anybody know where it can be found?
[05:48] <kalaxmar> Using Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper
[05:48] <abhijitb> JosefK, is 915resolution included in the kernal or i need to install it
[05:48] <SeanTater> jbroome: try pressing Ctrl-Alt-F5 and then type in gdm, report what it says
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ettercap
[05:48] <ubotu> ettercap: Multipurpose sniffer/interceptor/logger for switched LAN. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.3-1 (dapper), package size 164 kB, installed size 400 kB
[05:48] <JosefK> abhijitb: you'll need to install it - I didn't realise that guide was for Ubuntu, but you can actually follow its installation instructions
[05:48] <roico> is the common customizations spec going to be implemented by edgy?
[05:49] <jbroome> SeanTater: nothing, completly locked up
[05:49] <deep> Hej folk!
[05:49] <SeanTater> kalaxmar: if nothing else, use -> dpkg -L ettercap (It lists the files in that package)
[05:49] <SeanTater> jbroome: not sure then
[05:49] <Lysit> Is there a GUI tool for management of a wireless device (The device is setup and apparently working according to Ndis). And if so what is the apt-get?
[05:49] <kalaxmar> SeanTater: thx i'm going to try it
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> roico: Best to ask in there room   #Ubuntu+1
[05:50] <yepla> plz i don't understand my keyboard work correctly in virtual shell but not in a xterm someone can help me ?
[05:50] <SeanTater> Lysit: try network-manager or wlassistant
[05:50] <Lysit> Tah
[05:50] <SeanTater> !apt > Lysit
[05:50] <jbroome> SeanTater: i know i have a bad drive hooked up, that's why I'm trying to boot a live cd so I can try recovery.  is there a no mount option i can pass to the kernel at boot so it leaves the bad drive alone?
[05:50] <SeanTater> jbroome: I;m afraid I do not know, I have little experience with boot options
[05:51] <Lysit> I know what apt-get is:P Sometimes its an odd package with a precise version number in it though:p
[05:51] <jbroome> np, thanks
[05:51] <Neo8750> jbroome: disconnect the drive?
[05:52] <Eddie> how do I remove kacpid without breaking my system
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jbroome: Live shouldnt do anything to your existing drive
[05:52] <Eddie> I dont need acpi support in the slightest
[05:52] <SeanTater> yepla: xterm may have options concerning kayboard layout -- I know knosole does, but it;s something to look for
[05:52] <SeanTater> Jack_Sparrow: not even try to mount it?
[05:53] <SeanTater> Eddie: as one of the only boot options I know, use the boot option noacpi
[05:53] <florizs1984> connect
[05:53] <yepla> SeanTater, my keyboard don't work under X can you help me ?
[05:53] <SeanTater> !ping > florizs1984
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jbroome: What is the format on that drive
[05:53] <Eddie> SeanTater: I was considering that, but isnt that just the same as killing the acpi service? because ive done that and kacpid continues to run
[05:53] <florizs1984> :-)
[05:53] <SeanTater> yepla: um -- I don;t know -- I only know how to change it for kde
[05:54] <Eddie> SeanTater: you irish by the way sean? :)
[05:54] <jbroome> Neo8750: i'm booting with no drives hooked up right now to test my disk
[05:54] <jbroome> Jack_Sparrow: i'm pretty sure it is OSX's default..  HFS maybe
[05:54] <SeanTater> Eddie: I don't know, but I don;t think it would hurt to try
[05:54] <Eddie> SeanTater: brb ill give it a shot
[05:54] <SeanTater> Eddie: Notices the "tater"?
[05:54] <SeanTater> Eddie: okay
[05:55] <gean> what do i need for a pure net install of ubuntu 6.06 ?!
[05:55] <Eddie> SeanTater: and the name sean :) spelt properly ie without the w
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jbroome: I guess I am confused,  if you dont mount it at some point you wont be able to recover anything from it.
[05:55] <gean> (live cd or alternate stuck in the middle...)
[05:55] <SeanTater> gean: try searching the wiki, last time I checked, ubuntu does not have an netinst image
[05:55] <gean> SeanTater: thanks, goin' to wiki..
[05:55] <SeanTater> gean: yw
[05:55] <jbroome> Jack_Sparrow: i understand that.  i'm just troubleshooting now to see if i have a bad cd, or if something is going wonky.  Eventually i'd like to mount the drive and pull stuff off of it
[05:56] <SeanTater> Eddie: :)
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jbroome: k... test cd with no drive....
[05:56] <Lysit> SeanTater? Taters? PO-TAT-TOES, boil 'em mash 'em, stick 'em inna stew? ----- Or is it no reference to the Lord Of The Rings?
[05:56] <voraistos> so, no one knows how to build to a .deb and not "make install" it directly ?
[05:56] <jbroome> Jack_Sparrow: locked up @ X with no drives hooked up
[05:57] <SeanTater> Lysit: it's a patato, not lord of the rings
[05:57] <SeanTater> Lysit: I like potatoes in all forms
[05:57] <zwnj> how i can install basic development packages glibc, gcc, etc.  is there any meta package for this?
[05:57] <jbroome> zwnj: build-essential
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> build-essentials
[05:57] <Lysit> Ah, just the actor who says that line is called Sean, was confused.
[05:57] <zwnj> jbroome: thanks :)
[05:57] <brian> Hey All, major bug... Looking for a fix. If running remote desktop to a windows box it hangs dapper drake 3 times out of 5 and you have to restart x, sometimes you need to hard restart.. Is this a known bug and is there a fix ?
[05:57] <brian> TIA
[05:57] <SeanTater> voraistos: to you mean checkinstall ? (It makes debian packages from source code)
[05:58] <willvdl> JosefK, thanks. that worked. Only think is the fonts are renedering really ugly
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jbroome: Since I dont do anything on Macs.. I have no suggestions..
[05:58] <claudia> hi
[05:58] <SeanTater> claudia: hello
[05:58] <voraistos> SeanTater: i dont think thats it, but i check it out
[05:58] <sureshot> does dapper drake do lvm accrose  several harddrives
[05:58] <claudia> whre are you from?
[05:59] <claudia> *where
[05:59] <SeanTater> claudia: ubuntu? The island of man
[05:59] <meff> anyone notice a MD5sum mismatch on all the mirrors?
[05:59] <meff> im trying to apt-get update
[05:59] <brian> meff: Fine here?
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> meff: have you changed any of the repos?
[05:59] <brian> Check your sources.list file
[05:59] <claudia> I can't understand...
[05:59] <brian> Anyone experience the rdp bug?
[06:00] <SeanTater> claudia: what do you not understand?
[06:00] <brian> It's my only ubuntu prob.....
[06:00] <SeanTater> brian: no, but I use ssh -X instead for the most part
[06:00] <meff> brian: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[06:00] <reptyle> voraistos, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch and http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[06:00] <claudia> nothing, sorry, but i can't speak english very well
[06:00] <claudia> i'm from italy
[06:00] <Lynoure> !it
[06:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:00] <pricechild> Hi all. I'm running ubuntu dapper and have a wireless connection to a BTHomeHub. This works perfectly normally. However, i want to set the box up as a server using no-ip.com
[06:00] <PingunZ> How to get userlist icons ? like here http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5860/screenshot1mm4.png
[06:00] <brian> seantater: Can you do that to a windoze box?
[06:00] <meff> brian: what is your apt.sources line for backports, if you may?
[06:00] <voraistos> SeanTater: that was it, never used that before but i am gonna do that this way. TY
[06:01] <brian> meff: one sec
[06:01] <Lynoure> claudia: but you are welcome to be here too
[06:01] <voraistos> reptyle thx, i check that out
[06:01] <SeanTater> brian: um -- probably not.. it may not be what you are looking for anyway
[06:01] <pricechild> I have got windows serving an apache website by assigning a public ip from the bthomehub to the dapper box. However, dapper then won't access the net when windows still does
[06:01] <pricechild> can anyone help/
[06:01] <SeanTater> voraistos: yw
[06:01] <jpjacobs> SeanTater, if you're looking to use Xforwarding to a windowsbox, take a look at Xming
[06:01] <Neo8750> if i uninstalled usplash fully why when i sent the command splash on boot it loads usplash still?
[06:02] <SeanTater> jpjacobs: tell brian -- I don;t use windows
[06:02] <Stardog_> a friend of mine hasn't got connection on the internett. he has noticed that the connectionsettings has changed automaticly..... is this a common error caused by gnome/ubuntu?
[06:02] <brian> meff: join #paste
[06:02] <claudia> thanks Lynoure and Seantater.....and sorry for my english, but i'm 14
[06:02] <claudia> bye
[06:02] <SeanTater> pricechild: are you trying to tunnel inetrenet connectivity through windows?
[06:02] <SeanTater> pricechild: /internet/
[06:03] <SeanTater> pricechild: a router may make life easier if you are
[06:03] <SeanTater> Stardog_: If you are using DHCP, I think that effect is intended
[06:04] <SeanTater> Stardog_: using static IPs may help your case
[06:04] <pricechild> SeanTater i have a have a wireless/wired homehub which has given my box a public ip
[06:04] <SeanTater> Stardog_: but that can be a bit of work if you don;t know what you are doing
[06:05] <SeanTater> pricechild: :S  -- I don;t understand, mine only issues private ones
[06:05] <Taku> hi all !
[06:05] <Stardog_> SeanTater: ok.... thx so far
[06:05] <sureshot> does daper drake do lvm accrose several differen sized scsi drives
[06:06] <grayscale> Hi, I somehow managed to botch my install and was wondering if I could get some help.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23331 <-- that is what I'm getting after I run apt-get with the fix flag activated
[06:06] <pricechild> SeanTater: well i haven't been able to work out how to get my hub to forward port 80, so i simply told it instead to assign a public ip by dhcp instead of a private one
[06:06] <Stardog_> SeanTater: but do you know why all the sudden this happends? no problems before one kubuntu and the netconnection... :o
[06:06] <grayscale> im thinking i might just need to add a repositoryt o my sources.list but I dont know what else it could be
[06:07] <brian> seantater: I'll have a look at xming
[06:07] <Arinomi> !install
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:07] <brian> seantater: thanks
[06:08] <grayscale> well this isnt a fresh install, i was messing around with the apt settings to try to get a pack to grab from a repository
[06:08] <i4get> hmm looks to me that you need to enable multivers but not certain as of yet
[06:08] <grayscale> and in the process of doing so, i'm getting this problem with broken packages
[06:09] <pricechild> Can anyone else help me with my problem?
[06:10] <gwilma> Does anyone know how to make an app go fullscreen when using compiz?
[06:10] <gwilma> pricechild: what's the problem?
[06:10] <Arinomi> How do I enter my BIOS configuration menu?
[06:11] <pricechild> gwilma:  I'm running ubuntu dapper and have a wireless connection to a BTHomeHub. This works perfectly normally. However, i want to set the box up as a server using no-ip.com
[06:11] <Sync_> press del at bootup
[06:11] <pricechild> I have got windows serving an apache website by assigning a public ip from the bthomehub to the dapper box. However, dapper then won't access the net when windows still does
[06:11] <SeanTater> I cannot get NFS to work, nfsd is on and exports are set up, but mount will not do anything
[06:11] <zwnj> is there anyway to force apt-get to download (already installed) packages?  does apt contain any other application to do that?  i want to download build-essential and its dependencies...
[06:11] <SeanTater> Arinomi: uaually the start up screen will tell you
[06:12] <gwilma> pricechild: sorry, no ideas for that one :-|
[06:12] <pricechild> he he ok :)
[06:12] <pricechild> Anyone else?
[06:12] <grayscale> i4get, is there anything you need to see to kind of help clarify my problem?
[06:12] <SeanTater> Arinomi: F1, F2, or delete may help
[06:12] <cfedde> I had a misconfigured installer change permissions for lots of files in / and beyond.  Is there a utility that can check and fix permissions on critical things like sudo and gdm?
[06:12] <total_meltdown_> Ok, does anyone else hope Netgear dies a slow painful death?
[06:13] <Stardog_> SeanTater: well tried pinging the adress of the modem... "network unreachable"-msg... what does that mean u know?
[06:13] <grayscale> I do
[06:13] <grayscale> :o
[06:13] <Eddie> I just killed acpi support in the kernel
[06:13] <Taku> hey all, could anyone help me in a singular problem ?
[06:13] <vicscandl> !pastebin > vicscandl
[06:13] <SeanTater> Stardog_: I've had it happen to be, but I think it can happen as a resault of a variety of causes
[06:13] <Eddie> Unfortunately this seems to have stopped my usb mouse from working
[06:14] <SeanTater> Eddie: if it's not one thing, it's another
[06:14] <Eddie> I think I inadvertently killed hotplug
[06:14] <Eddie> is hotplug a part of acpi
[06:14] <Taku> I'm now under edgy testing, and my X is broken, so I just want to make a apt-get update now, and this isn't working, apt doesn't succeed in hitting the repos, whereas I can browse the web without any problem ... so wtf ?
[06:15] <zwnj> is there anyway to force apt-get to download (already installed) packages?  does apt contain any other application to do that?  i want to download build-essential and its dependencies...
 did you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:15] <Ash-Fox> Perhaps your mirror is down/
[06:15] <Taku> the main one ?
[06:15] <grayscale> i4get, yes i did, you want me to pastebin what it looks like?
[06:15] <Taku> quite strange isn't it ?
[06:15] <Taku> I'll test if I can hit it from another pc
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> grayscale: yes
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[06:16] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:16] <Alam_Ubuntu> what with "Hyper Threading"?
[06:16] <Taku> oh thanks a lot jack
 yes
[06:17] <grayscale> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23334
[06:17] <lupine_85> Neo8750: delete the 'quiet' kernel boot option
[06:17] <Neo8750> lupine_85: then i get info about kernel
[06:17] <nicolas_faf> Hello
[06:17] <Dimensions> hi how can i access and delete commands which i have used in shell window ?
[06:17] <lupine_85> yep
[06:17] <Neo8750> i mean the tasks like mounting fs and bring up netowrk
[06:17] <Neo8750> i get none of that
[06:18] <i4get> uncomment multivers
[06:18] <nicolas_faf> Has anyone got a Dell Latitude D620 ?
[06:18] <CromagDK> SeanTater: if you have a minute, i still have problems with the flash stuff.
[06:18] <Neo8750> lupine_85: i mean the tasks like mounting fs and bring up network
 uncomment multivers and univers
[06:18] <Neo8750> you know the stuff under the boot logo and such
[06:18] <lupine_85> Neo8750: change splash to nosplash?
[06:19] <i4get> has dell lat d 610
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> grayscale: The stuff you added is just waiting to mess you up
[06:19] <Neo8750> lupine_85: nosplash is an option??
[06:19] <Eddie> How do I get hotplug working in the absence of Acpi support
[06:19] <lupine_85> yep
[06:19] <Neo8750> hmm intresting i'll try
[06:19] <grayscale> waiting? it already did :o i4get, you mean the backports repositories?
[06:19] <kvark> hi, I'm trying to set the resolution of the command terminals to 1280x1024 at 60Hz
[06:20] <kvark> the only thing I found so far was to add vga=794 to /boot/grub/menu.lst but that results in a refresh rate my screen refuses to display
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> grayscale: plf    canonical
[06:20] <grayscale> remove those?
[06:20] <CromagDK> anyone had troulbe with flash in firefox and got i working again ? I dont seem to be able to see sites fully with the installed flash. i installed it from their website. Any ideas ? :)
[06:20] <vicscandl> anyone run into this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23332 ) today?
[06:20] <Tjoels> hey
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> grayscale: rebuild your source list...  !easysource
[06:20] <CromagDK> hey Tjoels styr p flash og firefox ? :)
[06:20] <grayscale> !easysource
[06:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:21] <Tjoels> i can't connect to these repos: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: MD5Sum mismatch and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.bz2: MD5Sum mismatch
[06:21] <Tjoels> anyone else experiencing the same problem?
[06:21] <CromagDK> those are not repos
[06:21] <vicscandl> !pastebin > Tjoels
[06:21] <xCling> hay, anny one know if I can give myself more the just read access to my ntfs partitions I need to get write access?
[06:21] <CromagDK> aah
[06:21] <Tjoels> oh, yeah, sorry.
[06:21] <vicscandl> Tjoels: i just posted the same issue.. ;)
[06:21] <Tjoels> ah, okay.
[06:21] <Dimensions> how can i clear shell window from the commands used ?
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> xCling: Not advised
[06:22] <CromagDK> clear
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > xCling\
[06:22] <xCling> !ntfs
[06:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:22] <Dimensions> CromagDK:  not on shell screen but they get stored in the system and also when you do up arrow u can see old commands
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !fuse
[06:22] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:22] <CromagDK> aaah ok :)
[06:22] <sureshot> hack_sparrow hey can you tell me how to get dapper to do lvm acrose server different sized scsi drives
[06:23] <xCling> Jack_Sparrow: aha I see thx
[06:23] <ana88> holaaaaaaa
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xCling: read is fine.. write is dangerous....
[06:23] <NthDegree> !es
[06:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: No idea
[06:23] <Dimensions> Jack_Sparrow:  how can i remote history of my shell window ?
[06:23] <i4get> bbiab
[06:23] <ana88> alguien tiene ganas de xarla??
[06:24] <sureshot> thanks it spanns the drives to use as one just wondering
[06:24] <Eddie> why am i in ubuntu-unregged?
[06:24] <Eddie> I have identified :S
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: ? DOnt understand, so I must not know
[06:24] <Dimensions> remove*
[06:24] <NthDegree> Eddie this is #ubuntu :)
[06:24] <Neo8750> lupine_85: no go stll same thing
[06:24] <NthDegree> !es > ana88
[06:24] <grayscale> Jack_Sparrow, after i update my source-list using the source-matic and save the new sources.list now what?
[06:25] <Dimensions> Jack_Sparrow: what i mean is when we use any commands in shell window it gets stored so when you use up arrow u can see ur previous commands how can i clean its history ... ?
[06:25] <NthDegree> !it > ana88
[06:25] <Eddie> NthDegree: irssi sucks
[06:25] <Neo8750> there someone else on the forums with same problem but no one knows what problem could be
[06:25] <ana88> dime
[06:25] <xCling> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah but I just need to add some command in a config on my ntfs
[06:25] <Eddie> Anyone want to help me get usb working again
[06:25] <NthDegree> Eddie: there's aways SIC (which is less than 400 lines of code) :p
[06:25] <Eddie> I killed acpi, (needed to, it crashes my system) but now usb (maybe hotplug) is not working
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> grayscale: I use synaptic and reload..
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> xCling: You have been advised against it.. proceed at your own risk
[06:26] <henna> mm, standard ubuntu comes without make?
[06:26] <sureshot> xCling you will corrupt your ntfs if you do
[06:27] <xCling> aha ok thx for the advised
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: I dont know, I havbe never had the need or seen anyone that needed  that
[06:27] <Eddie> What module do I modprobe to get usb running? hotplug doesnt exist apparently
[06:28] <Taku> !schedule
[06:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:28] <Eddie> !usb
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <IceTox> Hey guys. I changed hostname using "hostname <new>" and every time I'm using sudo at any tasks now, I'm getting this message "sudo: unable to lookup rebecca via gethostbyname()"
[06:29] <IceTox> Anyone knows what's wrong and how to solve it?
[06:29] <grayscale> even after rebuilding with synaptic, it still is giving me the same error mentioned earlier
[06:29] <ChaosFan> IceTox: did you reboot after changing your hostname?
[06:30] <Eddie> IceTox: edit /etc/hosts
[06:30] <grayscale> its saying my libc6 and libc6-i686 packages are broken
[06:30] <CromagDK> anyone had troulbe with flash in firefox and got i working again ? I dont seem to be able to see sites fully with the installed flash. i installed it from their website. Any ideas ? :)
[06:30] <IceTox> ChaosFan, yeah, I did restart
[06:30] <IceTox> ah, thanks Eddie :)
[06:30] <Eddie> Im lagging to death here
[06:31] <grayscale> wait i think i got it
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> grayscale: can you reinstall just those packages... There are serious problems when going outside the box...
[06:32] <grayscale> well through synaptic i went to force the dapper package
[06:32] <grayscale> and i think that fixed it
[06:32] <i4get> hmm
[06:32] <grayscale> its fixed
[06:32] <lhds> anyone using mutella right now?
[06:32] <sureshot> what is the url for the dapper wiki documentation
[06:32] <grayscale> Jack_Sparrow, and i4get: thanks
[06:32] <grayscale> :D
[06:33] <maria> cuantos aos tienes
[06:33] <maria> en espaol
[06:33] <maria> gg
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[06:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:34] <IceTox> Do you know of any good p2p programs for ubuntu/linux ?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> !p2p
[06:34] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[06:34] <maria> adios
[06:34] <maria> adios
[06:34] <linnuxxy> how to run as another user in ubuntu...as su seems not working to me?
[06:34] <maria> adios
[06:34] <maria> adios
[06:34] <linnuxxy> adios maria
[06:34] <Homer> can I install fvwm95 on my ubuntu box?
[06:34] <Sync_> adios
[06:34] <IceTox> Dr_Willis, yeah, but I didn't get the f***** install of limewire correct :)
[06:35] <linnuxxy> how to run as another user in ubuntu...as su seems not working to me?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[06:35] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> IceTox,  be sure you are using the SUN java and not that GPL java
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> frostwire works better for me :P
[06:35] <linnuxxy> how to run as another user in ubuntu bash shell...as su seems not working to me?
[06:36] <gilthanaz> Hi all! Anyone any experience with getting an ATI card to work with cedega - or actually recognize its 3D capatibilites at all :)
[06:36] <IceTox> ah, there ya go again.. that crappy java thingie.. I want blackdown back! dammit! Removing a perfectly good java version for something that is supposed to be a whole lot better, but doesn't work for the general linux n00b.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> cedega + ati - can be tricky
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> IceTox,  just use that update-alternatives
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> you dont have to remove anything
[06:36] <gilthanaz> Dr_Willis: Yes, iam trying for some time alrady, and went through several how-to's.
[06:37] <IceTox> !frostwire
[06:37] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> gilthanaz,  i had it working once.. but then some games it dident work right.
[06:37] <gilthanaz> Iam happy if it works at all ...
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Ive about given up on all windows/games :P
[06:37] <gilthanaz> Its somehow weird, as the card is recognized and aticontrol gives correct information; But no OpenGL appears to be working at all.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> only thing i use windows for - is converting videos to dvd.. but im learning how to do that with Linux now also.
[06:38] <zwnj> is there anyway to force apt-get to download (already installed) packages?  does apt contain any other application to do that?  i want to download build-essential and its dependencies...
[06:38] <gilthanaz> The only reason why i was using Windows the last years was gaming, actually :P
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> zwnj,  trying to transfer them to another machine?
[06:38] <i4get> hmm synaptic?
[06:38] <rodekil> you could reinstall the packages. I know that you can do it with the synaptic package manager
[06:38] <gilthanaz> I dont even care for Crossfire or any other special stuff, i just want one of my ati cards as a single one rendering at least something :P
[06:39] <zwnj> Dr_Willis: i want to make a SDK CD for my offline student
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> or check the apt, cache dir.. and see whats in there.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking th Build-essential packages were on the 'alternative install' cd.
[06:39] <zwnj> Dr_Willis: i apt-get clean every week, so i don't have them in my cache
[06:39] <lupine_85> zwnj: you can just download them from the archive site
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> the apt-get system has some tools that i think can download packages for offline use.
[06:40] <lupine_85> e.g. http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> and thers a 'repo dvd archive' maker site out i saw once.
[06:40] <i4get> apt-get -d?
[06:40] <zwnj> lupine_85: but build-essential is an example, maybe i wand to do that with gnome-core-devel too
[06:40] <OXIj> i have a problem: i'm trying to download some files with d4x. d4x download them but it dosen't  save them into my home folder. it only created decript.ion file. if i trying to start d4x under root, then all is ok. why? i've checked folder where I'm downloading. d4x can read, write and exute it, but it dosen't work
[06:40] <zwnj> i4get: doesn't work
[06:41] <i4get> ?
[06:41] <i4get> hmm
[06:41] <zwnj> OXIj: maybe your download path is incorect.  have you checked it?
[06:41] <gilthanaz> Dr_Willis, could you tell me how you got it to work, tho?
[06:41] <OXIj> yes
[06:41] <lupine_85> zwnj: ok, apt-get install --download-only <whatever> ?
[06:41] <lupine_85> they're saved to /var/cache/apt/archvies
[06:42] <lupine_85> erm, archives
[06:42] <OXIj> zwnj, yes. wget downloading it ok.
[06:42] <zwnj> lupine_85: i do have the packages myself, so there's nothing to download (--download-only doesn't force to download)
[06:43] <zwnj> OXIj: not the URL, i meant the path d4x saves dowloaded files
[06:43] <wobster> Hi everyone. I'm trying to set up a pc as a wifi access point. The wireless card is identified as eth3. In forum posts I usually see ath0 or similar. Did I forget to load any modules apart from the driver for the card? (By the way, it doesn't work of course).
[06:43] <lupine_85> zwnj: maybe apt-get install --reinstall --download-only ?
[06:43] <SgtCyrex> hi... anybody got "Mad" skills on wifi in ubuntu? i've tried installing my D-Link DWL-G650 PCMCIA card, and got it up running, but without any WEP, and i need some help setting this up :)
[06:43] <lupine_85> wobster: ath0 is for Atheros cards
[06:43] <lupine_85> your wlan card could quite feasibly called eth3
[06:43] <zwnj> lupine_85: hum, funny, but maybe works.  let me see
[06:43] <wobster> lupine_85, oh, I see.
[06:44] <lupine_85> does iwconfig show any wireless extensions for it?
[06:44] <lupine_85> (oh, and don't forget to enable IP forwarding!)
[06:44] <wobster> lupine_85, is a "master" mode required to be able to be access point?  My network card doesn't support such a mode, as it seems.
[06:44] <zwnj> lupine_85: it's just going to download the meta package :(
[06:45] <lupine_85> wobster: yes, unless you run an ad-hoc network
[06:45] <iGuanA> hi all
[06:45] <zwnj> ok, how i can get the dependencies of a package in bash?
[06:45] <lupine_85> zwnj: hmm. Not really sure then, unless you wrote a script to parse the dependencies
[06:45] <wobster> lupine_85, will I find a list of master-capable devices in the ubuntu wiki?
[06:45] <lupine_85> oh, yes
[06:45] <Homer> !sound
[06:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:45] <lhds> how to connect to mutella?
[06:45] <lupine_85> apt-cache show <package> will show deps
[06:45] <OXIj> zwnj, it corect too. descript.ion file was created in that folder. I'm saying: if i start d4x under root it works corectly
[06:46] <ookami> im getting an error when running tvtime: sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy     ...   would someone help me troubleshoot this?
[06:46] <i4get> so apt-get build-dep doesnt work for you either?
[06:46] <lhds> !mutella
[06:46] <ubotu> mutella: Gnutella client with command line and http interface. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.5-5 (dapper), package size 368 kB, installed size 1304 kB
[06:46] <lupine_85> erm, showpkg
[06:46] <lupine_85> there might be a better way of getting them, though
[06:46] <SgtCyrex> hello
[06:46] <__lonewolf> hi folks
[06:47] <zwnj> OXIj: do you have enough disk space on /home?!  note that the root always have a little free space on each ext fs
[06:47] <__lonewolf> is there anyone who uses BSNL in India? its for a friend.
[06:47] <vicscandl> anyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23332
[06:47] <i4get> ok maybe im not fully understanding...sry
[06:48] <zwnj> lupine_85: noway to get them more clear? (without version and other stuff)
[06:48] <lupine_85> zwnj: probably, but I'm not sure how
[06:48] <iceman24k> anyone got a url to getting wmv files to play in mplayer ?
[06:49] <lupine_85> ah: apt-cache depends
[06:49] <i4get> need the codecs im guseeing
[06:49] <iceman24k> !codecs
[06:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:49] <sedrake> Grub gives me error 15 after switching my hdd's, but I reinstalled ubuntu afterwards and my menu.lst looks fine, what can be wrong?
[06:49] <iceman24k> i4get don't see a codecs for wmv formats ?
[06:50] <i4get> follow the link !codecs
[06:51] <OXIj> zwnj, i installed ubuntu 3 days ago. 7 GB on hard disk is free and i didn't set any contingencies on disck space for users
[06:51] <h4ch3r> heloo man
[06:51] <h4ch3r> why does'nt kubuntu comes with koffice instead openoffice?
[06:52] <mephis1987> hello, do anyone know any light weighed jave ide for ubuntu , eclipse is quite heavy for me :)
[06:52] <etzerd> ?
[06:52] <lupine_85> because openoffice is a lot better? :)
[06:52] <i4get> lol
[06:52] <h4ch3r> Kubuntu channel
[06:52] <lupine_85> mephis1987: JBuilder? :)
[06:52] <ionela> wola k tal
[06:52] <ionela> k tal estais todos
 why does'nt kubuntu comes with koffice instead openoffice? <AWOSDev> h4ch3r, good question and nobody knows the answer.
[06:52] <h4ch3r> 
[06:52] <rhelmer> mephis1987: bluej
[06:52] <etzerd> can anyone tell me why there are certain software after I installed them the system keep on booting up back and forth?
[06:52] <mephis1987> lupine_85:  is it free and light weighed ?
[06:53] <ionela> ablar espaol coo
[06:53] <lupine_85> free (but not Free); fairly light-weight
[06:53] <SgtCyrex> lupine_85: hi, do you got any insight in configuring Atheros chipset to WEP wifi?
[06:53] <lupine_85> biased towards RAD/visual design
[06:53] <lupine_85> SgtCyrex: sudo iwconfig ath0 key <key>
[06:53] <ionela> si no me digas
[06:54] <ionela> eso k me asusto jejejjejej
[06:54] <lupine_85> !es
[06:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:54] <lupine_85> I think :)
[06:54] <iceman24k> nothing about wmv formats ?
[06:54] <h4ch3r> ionela, brasileiro?
[06:54] <i4get> iceman24k look for w32codecs
[06:54] <h4ch3r> desculpar espanhol
[06:54] <meowmeow> i have a broadcom wireless card and i actually have gotten it to work, but in order for it to actually connect each time after a reboot i have to manually do these steps "sudo modprobe bcm43xx, sudo ifconfig eth1 up, sudo dhcpcd eth1"  The detector in gnome doesn't connect for me automatically, it recognizes the card but says its "disconnected" every time which forces me to do these steps each time.  I'm pretty new to ubuntu what
[06:54] <meowmeow> should I do?
[06:55] <rummik> help! i think i just screwed up a partition table...
[06:55] <iceman24k> i4get did that, but no video playes in the player just hear sount from wmv formats
[06:55] <vicscandl> meowmeow: yea, that is the solution that i use for mine as well...
[06:55] <Kanzie> Im having problem with my Compiz-installation on my IBM Thinkpad T60 running Gnome
[06:56] <meowmeow> vicscandl: oh, do you know the reason?
[06:56] <Kanzie> it says "your session only lasted less than 10 seconds..." etc. And the last line in the xsession-errorfile says beginning session setup
[06:56] <Kanzie> I got to the checked dashboard that turned blue, but then stalled there once
[06:56] <arsalan> has sme1 installed sun java system application server 8.2 in ubuntu
 check your video preferences
[06:57] <vicscandl> meowmeow: just not full support
[06:57] <vicscandl> meowmeow: lemme find you the link on the support forum
[06:57] <lupine_85> meowmeow: you can add "pre-up" lines in your /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:57] <rummik> umm...what do i do when gparted breaks the partition table on the HDD?
[06:57] <meowmeow> oh i see
[06:57] <lupine_85> that way, you can get it to run those commands automatically
[06:57] <lupine_85> rummik: panic
[06:57] <meowmeow> lupine_85: thanks for the tip :)
[06:57] <lupine_85> what do you mean by broken?
[06:57] <lupine_85> np
[06:58] <rummik> lupine_85: anything else?
[06:58] <lupine_85> that shouls cover it
[06:58] <lupine_85> ooh, actually - you should add the bcm43xx module to /etc/modprobe.d/ (something here) to get it to load automatically
[06:59] <rummik> it had an error when i was scaling the main partition (ntfs) so that this computer would have room for linux
[06:59] <meowmeow> oh of couse thanks
[06:59] <lupine_85> if your wireless section in ..../interfaces is (e.g.) "iface eth1 inet dhcp", you won't need to do dhclient
[06:59] <rummik> unfortunately...it's not my computer
[06:59] <zwnj> lupine_85: apt-cache depends build-essential
[06:59] <zwnj> ;)
[07:00] <arsalan> I m getting this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:00] <arsalan> any tip
[07:00] <lupine_85> rummik: I would suggest that you first make a backup of the hard drive
[07:00] <lupine_85> have you got anywhere to store a file as large as the HD?
[07:00] <lupine_85> and are you sure the partition table is broken?
[07:01] <Gamkeiller> good morning people
[07:01] <rummik> lupine_85: no drives that are 80GB around here...and yes, i'm sure the partition table is broken
[07:01] <SgtCyrex> lupine_85: sweet, now i get Interface ath0 doesnt support IP adresses :s
[07:01] <Yggdrasil> how can i fsck a sdram disk ? it seems to have fat32 on it
[07:01] <arsalan> where i should find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 since I already checked in synaptic but unable to find :(
[07:01] <rummik> lupine_85: gparted just shows a black outline on the drive...
[07:02] <lupine_85> rummik: hmm. Personally, in this sort of situation I'd write the drive off and go back to my pre-resize disc image, but you don't have one...
[07:02] <iceman24k> ok i got vlc to play them : )
[07:02] <arkangelp> Hello everyone
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> how do i fsck a usb sd card ?
[07:02] <lupine_85> ...you could try using fdisk to rebuild the partition table back to how it was prebiously
[07:02] <arkangelp> I have a problem trying to add a plubic key
[07:02] <rummik> lupine_85: how do i do that?
[07:02] <lupine_85> Yggdrasil: it's probably /dev/sd?
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> well
[07:02] <rummik> lupine_85: and that's possible with NTFS?
[07:02] <Gamkeiller> got something odd that i can not fix.  Upgraded to the kernel pack 686 as i have a P4 but i also have a nvidia card.  Now when i was back in gentoo i just ran nvidia-kernel and it would recompile the kernel modules.  I have gone throw and reinstall the gxl and hte nvideo-common file in synaptic.  Any advice??
[07:02] <OXIj> zwnj, i installed ubuntu 3 days ago. 7 GB on hard disk is free and i didn't set any contingencies on disck space for users
[07:02] <lupine_85> rummik: you "sudo fdisk <devicefile>"
[07:02] <Yggdrasil> lupine, i got the right disk and all but its not doing much ...
[07:03] <arkangelp> I just run the command to add the public key and it shows me this: root@laptop:~# apt-key add -
[07:03] <Yggdrasil> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN ,,/dev/sdb1: 93 files, 87142/124779 clusters
[07:03] <lupine_85> then delete the partition table, and recreate every partition so that it's the same as it was before you started the resize
[07:03] <arkangelp> and stay there , it doesn't show anything
[07:04] <rummik> lupine_85: oh, fdisk, i thought you said fsck
[07:04] <vicscandl> lupine_85: tahnks for that help on the wifi...
[07:04] <lupine_85> np :)
[07:04] <rummik> lupine_85: now what?
[07:04] <lhds> anyone using mutella?
[07:04] <arsalan> nobody is helping me :(
[07:04] <lupine_85> rummik: the logic goes that the actual data on the drive hasn't been touched... just the partition table. So by recreating that partition table, you can hopefully get the data back into the partitions
[07:05] <rummik> lupine_85: so...make a ntfs partition?
[07:05] <lupine_85> ok... do you have full details on what clusters and types each partition in the drive were on?
[07:05] <lupine_85> does fdisk show any partitions right now?
[07:05] <lupine_85> (type 'p')
[07:05] <mephis1987> hello , i have install eclipse by synaptic on ubuntu , but i cant file the j2 sdk folder , can you show me where is it ?
[07:05] <rummik> lupine_85: yeah, two. one the size of the drive, and one 0+, both linux partitions
[07:06] <h4ch3r> ayo
[07:06] <lupine_85> ok, and what was the partition table originally?
[07:06] <rummik> lupine_85: i would imagine the original layout is the same as what XP would have put there when you install
[07:06] <h4ch3r> the ubuntu edgy stable go gnome 2.16 very big fasting
[07:06] <lupine_85> if that's the case, it'd be just one large partition
[07:06] <h4ch3r> ?
[07:06] <rummik> lupine_85: one big huge NTFS partition
[07:07] <lupine_85> note that this could cause things to become rapidly worse
[07:07] <arsalan> mephis1987: search it up from 'search for files' option in places menu -in ur desktop
[07:07] <webwolf_27> rummik, thats unusual evr for windoof
[07:07] <rummik> lupine_85: i dunno if i could make anything worse as this isn't my computer :(
[07:07] <lupine_85> oh, trust me it could
[07:07] <jmoncayo> hey does ubuntu come with native broadcom wireless adapter support now?
[07:08] <lupine_85> if you want to attempt it, you'd delete ('d') both of the current partitions, then recreate a new one (n) and set it's type to NTFS
[07:08] <rummik> webwolf_27: huh?
[07:08] <lupine_85> HOWEVER, I don't know what the type code for an ntfs partition is
[07:08] <webwolf_27> jmoncayo, no not untill kernel 2.6.17
[07:08] <gbrent__> jmoncayo: it has support for many cards but ti is still a little shady
[07:08] <billybennett> Hey guys whats the best guide for dual booting XP and Ubuntu?
[07:08] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: yes, but you need to give it the firmware
[07:08] <Neo8750> !xp
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <rummik> lupine_85: neither do i...i think i'll try some google
[07:09] <arkangelp> Anyone can give me a hand?
[07:09] <webwolf_27> rummik, since when does a computer, even with win preinstalled come with 1 huge partition
[07:09] <lakin> Hey guys, my friend runs a dual screen ubuntu installation with nvidia drivers.  After some updates today, xorg won't start.
[07:09] <jmoncayo> what kernel does dapper come with?
[07:09] <lupine_85> q exits fdisk without making any changes, incidentally, so feel free to play
[07:09] <lupine_85> webwolf_27: since forever :)
[07:09] <rummik> webwolf_27: that's true...
[07:09] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: dapper is 2.6.15-26
[07:09] <webwolf_27> jmoncayo, 2.6.15
[07:09] <arkangelp> jmoncayo:  I have kernel  2.6.15-26-386
[07:09] <jirihavelka> billybennett: $man grub ; grub.conf comments :)
[07:10] <lupine_85> edgy is 2.6.17
[07:10] <mephis1987> arsalan , i only see an config file of it
[07:10] <jmoncayo> if i download the kernel 2.6.17 will i have native support for my wireless adapter?
[07:10] <arkangelp> I need help adding a public key....
[07:10] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: the 2.6.15 kernel has the bcm43xx module in
[07:10] <jmoncayo> lupine_85: what is edgy?
[07:10] <lupine_85> you still need the firmware though
[07:10] <lupine_85> !edgy
[07:10] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:11] <Gamkeiller> !schedule
[07:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:11] <lupine_85> You can get "a" firmware (that works with a lot of cards) at http://www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx
[07:11] <lupine_85> just extract it into /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/(your-kernel-version-here)
[07:11] <arkangelp> I'm runing the command to add a plubic key for one of my repository   but it wont do anything.. is that normal?
[07:11] <webwolf_27> computer don't come like that over here.... there is at a bare  minimum a hidden fat32 rescue partition
[07:12] <Gamkeiller> any nvidia user that can help with new kernel install would be great
[07:12] <lupine_85> webwolf_27: hmm, true
[07:12] <jmoncayo> lupine_85: what is the firmware you are talking about? the bcm43xx files? because i have those files
[07:12] <lupine_85> *.fw
[07:12] <lupine_85> the ones you get using fwcutter
[07:12] <webwolf_27> Gamkeiller, standard kernel or custom
[07:12] <lupine_85> (I took the liberty of chopping them out for ease of use)
[07:13] <arkangelp> Does anyone knows how long it will take to add a plublic key on the source.list?
[07:13] <rummik> lupine_85: i think i'm gonna be dead...
[07:13] <lupine_85> rummik: probably
[07:13] <jmoncayo> lupine_85: if i use ndiswrapper do i need those files?
[07:13] <arkangelp> Does anyone knows how long it will take to add a plublic key on the source.list?
[07:13] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: no
[07:14] <lupine_85> well, sort of. You need the windows driver, and the firmware is inside that
[07:14] <jmoncayo> lupine_85: if i install dapper would you guide me to get my wireless working?
[07:14] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: I can but try
[07:14] <lupine_85> broadcom cards are generally supported
[07:14] <h4ch3r> IE7 best ho firefox?
[07:14] <lupine_85> I would suggest that you try the native driver before ndiswrapper though
[07:15] <jmoncayo> lupine_85: breeze didnt support the broadcom wireless adapter
[07:15] <lupine_85> it does
[07:15] <jmoncayo> i needed to use ndiswrapper to get it to work
[07:15] <lupine_85> doesn't it?
[07:15] <lupine_85> oh, breezy...
[07:15] <lupine_85> dapper definitely does
[07:16] <npster> I have problems while hibernating
[07:16] <npster> actually I can not get into hibernate mode. Help ?
[07:16] <lupine_85> e.g. /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[07:16] <jmoncayo> does dapper gives you opportunity select the packages you to install or it install everything
[07:17] <NeoSaki> holy love of god!1
[07:17] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: it installs ubuntu-desktop which is a load of stuff
[07:17] <NeoSaki> I got my scanner to work!
[07:17] <NeoSaki> w00t
[07:17] <lupine_85> you can remove stuff later though
[07:17] <npster> Dapper is the "real" Ubuntu !
[07:17] <Vegeta^> How do I solve the problem with that when I close my laptop lid and open it again, the screen stays black?
[07:17] <jmoncayo> lupine_85: is there any way i can choose what i want to install?
[07:17] <lampshade> If you change settings on how your basic console looks, will that mess up the whole nice looking ubuntu splash screen?  Like I want to add something to my grub conf or whatever so that when I am just on a plain console everything isn't huge
[07:17] <jldugger> is there a way to have totem disable dpms?
[07:18] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: you could do a "server" install then build up from there
[07:18] <jmoncayo> cool
[07:18] <lupine_85> it would be a PITA though
[07:18] <jmoncayo> lupine_85: can i do server install over the network? i am going to install dapper with pxe boot
[07:19] <jldugger> whenever i watch 30 minute clips in totem, the screen blanks at minute 20 =(
[07:19] <npster> Can someone help ?
[07:19] <lupine_85> jmoncayo: I think so
[07:19] <npster> jldugger: move the mouse a bit :\
[07:20] <jldugger> heh
[07:20] <jmoncayo> well i am going to install ubuntu then brb
[07:20] <jldugger> mplayer will disable that during playback
[07:20] <jldugger> cant find a totem option
[07:20] <jldugger> but i really hate mplayer's interface
[07:20] <webwolf_27> jldugger, use a different skin, or check out vlc
[07:21] <kkaisare> jldugger: gxine not good enough?
[07:21] <jones> info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes
[07:21] <jldugger> i guess the other requirement is that it handle .mkv and h264
[07:22] <lupine_85> jldugger: mplayer ?
[07:22] <jldugger> but really, if totem just turned off dpms, that would be fantastic
[07:22] <jldugger> finding a reason why totem should leave it on is challenging
[07:23] <H080J03> how do you upgrade to edgy from drapper with out reinstalling ubuntu?
[07:24] <jones> ...--...
[07:24] <lupine_85> H080J03: first you check with a psychiatrist. Then you change 'dapper' to 'edgy' in sources.list, apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:24] <lupine_85> not recommended though
[07:24] <lupine_85> that said, I did it :p
[07:24] <H080J03> thx
[07:24] <effer> when i type my IP address into my firefox URL bar, it prompts me for a username and password...what username and password is it looking for?
[07:25] <webwolf_27> lupine_85, and hows it running?
[07:25] <jldugger> effer: does the same thing happen when you type "localhost"?
[07:25] <lupine_85> webwolf_27: fairly well
[07:25] <lupine_85> I installed xgl as well
[07:25] <jones> ...--...
[07:25] <effer> jldugger, nope
[07:25] <Dace> H080J03: upgrading will likely cause more problems than clean install
[07:25] <lupine_85> it was a pain to get up though
[07:25] <NeoSaki> effer: have a router?
[07:25] <effer> NeoSaki, yes
[07:25] <H080J03> lupine_85, how would you do that in one command?
[07:26] <lupine_85> DAce: not the case. I've done both, and the upgrade was a *lot* easier
[07:26] <jldugger> you might be connecting to your router's webserver
[07:26] <NeoSaki> effer: you have to set your router up to foreward the port to your local ip
[07:26] <H080J03> oh
[07:26] <kevor_> Hello, my Nics keep changing from Eth1 to Eth2 and Eth2 to eth1
[07:26] <jones> ...--...
[07:26] <marco_> hola
[07:26] <kevor_> how can i prevent this from happening?
[07:26] <vicscandl> !wine > Tjoels
[07:26] <jones> ...--...
[07:26] <effer> NeoSaki, my routers was given to me, and the company that makes it went out of business...i'm trying to find a way to configure it :(
[07:26] <lupine_85> H080J03: "sed "s/dapper/edgy/" (blah) && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[07:26] <webwolf_27> lupine_85, I wouldn't be needing xgl. Since my laptops for development and it's only got a SIS graphic card with 32 MB ...
[07:26] <NeoSaki> erm
[07:26] <lupine_85> edit blah so that it overwrites your sources.list, and stuff
[07:26] <iceman24k> ok, time to try kde :(
[07:27] <Dace> lupine_85: is there something wrong with the clean install then?
[07:27] <H080J03> yea i knew it was something like that
[07:27] <lupine_85> not to be recommended, as I said
[07:27] <NeoSaki> what router is it?
[07:27] <pinky_> Does anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu on a MacBook (Pro)?
[07:27] <effer> NeoSaki, it's a blitzz netwave base g4
[07:27] <lupine_85> Dace: the daily build CDs are broken at the moment, and lots of people have trouble with knot 2 (especially with sata hard drives)
[07:27] <effer> NeoSaki, walmart brand i believe
[07:27] <NeoSaki> ouch
[07:27] <H080J03> except you have to pipe stuff into sed
[07:27] <lampshade> webwolf_27: I know you don't need it, but you'd be surprised-- I can run XGL with little or no lag on a really old  32mb nvidia card
[07:27] <lupine_85> on my clean install, I had to do around 2/3rds of it myself
[07:27] <pinky_> I'm not sure if I should mark my root partition or the FAT32 EFI partition as bootable...
[07:27] <lupine_85> H080J03: no you don't. man sed
[07:27] <H080J03> really?
[07:27] <Dace> lupine_85: ah, i was just thinking to install it when knot3 comes out
[07:28] <effer> NeoSaki, the only answer i've gotten so far is : buy a new router lol .... which i'd rather not do, as money is kinda _tight_
[07:28] <H080J03> i don't know i was tought how to use linux by some guy that was using unix in 182
[07:28] <lupine_85> in the next few days apparently
[07:28] <H080J03> 19982
[07:28] <webwolf_27> lampshade, not bad, too bad that won't help me with the SIS graphics chip
[07:28] <lupine_85> well, do it however you feel is best
[07:28] <lupine_85> don't forget to join #ubuntu+1
[07:28] <H080J03> A stream editor is used to perform basic text transformations on an input stream (a file or input from  a  pipeline).
[07:28] <downtownsquirrel> I'm running a Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake System, and want to change to 6.10 Edgy. What is the easiest way to do this without reinstalling?
[07:29] <H080J03> ha ha
[07:29] <lampshade> Anyone know a good site that explains the whole video:  stuff you can add to your grub console to get a pretty tty1, etc consoles?
[07:29] <H080J03> how many people ask this question a day?
[07:29] <lupine_85> many times, I would think
[07:29] <lupine_85> !upgrade
[07:29] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:29] <H080J03> some one needs to go add in a how to the fourms
[07:29] <lampshade> video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1024x768-32@65 or something like that
[07:29] <lupine_85> woo!
[07:29] <marros> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to install and run older versions of libc?
[07:29] <H080J03> cuz its not there
[07:29] <downtownsquirrel> Sorry ^^
[07:29] <jackster_> Hey, anyone else in the UK getting a message from Synaptic that there's an MD5Sum Mismatch from the two GB servers?
[07:29] <webwolf_27> downtownsquirrel, edit /etc/apt/sources.list... run apt-get update ... apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:30] <downtownsquirrel> sorry ^^
[07:30] <lupine_85> marros: possible I'd imagine, but... yeah. not a good idea.
[07:30] <Neo8750> lampshade: ??
[07:30] <Dace> H080J03: do some grepping on the logfiles to find out ;)
[07:30] <marros> have some older software that needs libc-2.2.x to run
[07:31] <lupine_85> libc or glibc ?
[07:31] <lupine_85> (glibc2 is libc6)
[07:31] <lupine_85> IIRC
[07:31] <lupine_85> marros: can't you just recompile against your current libc?
[07:31] <lampshade> Neo8750: ummm like when you press ctrl+alt+F1-->F6 and you get that fallback console, there is a command you can add to your menu.lst for the kernel that will let you see it in nice font, etc.  but I don't know what that is for ubuntu.  I think it is something like video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1024x768-32@85
[07:31] <iceman24k> tempted to install kororaa, just for xgl support
[07:31] <Homer> is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up terminal?
[07:32] <pinky_> Does anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu on a MacBook (Pro)?
[07:32] <xCling> anny one got a ide how to turn on the mic boost in ubuntu ?
[07:32] <webwolf_27> Homer, ctrl+alt+F1
[07:32] <lampshade> Homer: no, but you can make one really easily if you just want gnome terminal to come up
[07:32] <fractalworld> I am currently getting failures doing apt-get update:
[07:32] <fractalworld> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:32] <fractalworld> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:32] <lampshade> Homer: System >> Preferences >> Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:32] <NET||abuse> arrrggg,, this is an issue ,,, i have a broadcom wifi card,, how can i get it running??
[07:32] <webwolf_27> pinky_, sorry no, but on a laptop
[07:33] <fractalworld> Anyone else seeing this?
[07:33] <lampshade> fractalworld: yeah somebody else mentioned that in the channel
[07:33] <GTX> Recently I plugged in a USB Phone which is basiclay Headphone/MIC. Now I cannot listen to any using the normal system? How Do I restore it to how it was
[07:33] <pinky_> webwolf_27: Just a normal x86 laptop with BIOS?
[07:33] <Neo8750> lampshade: do i remove the vga[= parameter?
[07:33] <fractalworld> lampshade, no solution currently?
[07:33] <pinky_> I've never worked with EFI before and Ubuntu won't install...
[07:33] <fractalworld> lampshade, perhaps it'll get resolved on the server.
[07:33] <lampshade> Neo8750: I have no idea, I think I'm missing something, I was in the room asking cause I'm not even sure
[07:33] <pinky_> I know it's possible, though.
[07:33] <webwolf_27> pinky_, yep
[07:34] <fractalworld> lampshade, I just wondered whether something was misconfigured on my machine.
[07:34] <GTX> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:34] <GTX>  - I get this when I go into alsamixer
[07:34] <lampshade> fractalworld: nah I don't think so, not with someone else five minutes ago mentioning the same problem :)
[07:34] <NET||abuse> can anyone tell me how to sort out this wifi card?
[07:34] <fractalworld> lampshade, thanks.
[07:34] <xCling> Anny one know how to turn on the Mic Boost in Ubuntu ?
[07:34] <rixxon> !ntfs
[07:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:35] <rixxon> !fuse
[07:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:35] <lampshade> xCling: in the sound options-- just go to capture.  In the little volume manager program.  Is that what you mean?
[07:35] <GTX> Recently I plugged in a USB Phone which is basiclay Headphone/MIC. Now I cannot listen to any using the normal system? How Do I restore it to how it was
[07:35] <NET||abuse> !broadcom
[07:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:36] <xCling> lampshade: yeah but I cant find were the "Mic boost" is ?
[07:37] <Bennedetto> alright guys, i was in the #ubuntu-xgl chan, but i'm not really getting an answer.  I am trying to install xgl on my laptop, which has an intel i810.  I was previously told to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772 but the urls in the wget section are not working.  any ideas on what might either be a better how-to to follow for my video card, or on where i can get those packages?
[07:37] <lampshade> xCling: might also have to go to preferences and make the options show maybe?
[07:38] <mjr> Bennedetto, you probably want to use AIGLX instead; search the forums for that
[07:38] <benkong2> anyone know how I can change the distributor-logo in ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[07:38] <sm> hi, what's the easiest way to combine several scanned jpegs into a single pdf ?
[07:39] <Dasnipa] [> sm convert
[07:39] <Gamkeiller> sm that is a good one i was wondering that one my self
[07:39] <Subhuman> sm, copy/paste them into open office writer, and export to pdf
[07:39] <Subhuman> its not the fastest, but the easiest.
[07:39] <sm> yay, three answers :)
[07:39] <sm> thanks folks, I will try
[07:39] <xCling> lampshade: I found one "Mic Boost (+20dB)" here but when I put that on I can just hear myself better not my mats on ventrilo. and I have the outbound on the highest 10+
[07:40] <Dasnipa] [> the filter program convert is very handy. youd be able to write a script to do that anytime you want.
[07:40] <Gamkeiller> if i am getting this  NTFS-fs error (device hda1): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option unmask.
[07:40] <Gamkeiller> when i try to mount XP HD so i can pull some files what going on
[07:40] <lupine_85> Gamkeiller: insane fstab. Shouldn't it be 'umask', not 'unmask'?
[07:40] <lampshade> unfortunately I got nothing then
[07:41] <webwolf_27> Gamkeiller, it's not unmask ... it's umask
[07:41] <Gamkeiller> ok yah
[07:41] <Gamkeiller> hmm how the hell did that get miss spelled
[07:41] <Gamkeiller> but ok
[07:41] <sm> all: convert -adjoin *.jpg contract.pdf worked perfectly.. pure gold! thanks
[07:42] <Gamkeiller> worked
[07:42] <Gamkeiller> nice
[07:42] <Gamkeiller> thansk guys
[07:42] <Flamekebab> I need a quick bit of help - http://rpm.rutgers.edu/ seems to have a ubuntu repository, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to add it successfully to apt
[07:42] <webwolf_27> Gamkeiller, np
[07:42] <Gamkeiller> as i learn more i try and help others
[07:42] <Flamekebab> http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/main/
[07:43] <pinky_> Does anyone know why elilo installation hangs at 50% on machines with EFI during a normal Dapper install?
[07:43] <wtroche> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu, and after which I did an update. During the update, my system crashed, and now I am unable to log onto the desktop unless I use gnome-failsafe. Where can I get info on fixing this problem
[07:43] <Bennedetto> alright, this is going to sound quite 'noobish', but i am normally a gentoo user, so i'm not entirely familiar with the .deb files, what package to i need to install to have the deb command work on my system?
[07:44] <webwolf_27> Bennedetto, dpkg
[07:44] <mjr> Bennedetto, deb is not a command; dpkg is the low-level tool, and apt-get/aptitude/synaptic are higher level tools
[07:45] <Bennedetto> mjr: well the how-to says run the command "deb http://..."
[07:45] <webwolf_27> Bennedetto, thats not a command... it's a repository
[07:45] <mjr> Bennedetto, no it doesn't, you add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <Bennedetto> oh, ok
[07:46] <error> Hi
[07:46] <pws69> WHat is wrong if my eth1 wireless (ipw2200) doesnt show up in netowrking settings
[07:47] <error> release and renew the ip
[07:47] <error> :D
[07:47] <error> some users who like to chat ?
[07:47] <pws69> WHat is wrong if my eth1 wireless (ipw2200) doesnt show up in netowrking settings
[07:48] <pws69> WHat is wrong if my eth1 wireless (ipw2200) doesnt show up in netowrking settings
[07:48] <red_> what do i need to use the vga out on my laptop
[07:49] <wtroche> anyone willing to help a newbie to Ubuntu, my gnome session is corrupt from crashing during and update, I can online log in with gnome-failsafe
[07:49] <H080J03> when i run this command i get Permission denied on /etc/sources.list.old "sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.old | sed "s/dapper/edgy/" > /etc/apt/sources.list.old"
[07:49] <H080J03> but it has a sudo in it
[07:49] <covOPprometheus> hello guys! has anyone experienced a cdrom problem, only reading cd's randomly? Meaning normally not recognizing disks and suddenly doing so
[07:49] <LuisMendes> is there any other way to edit the GNOME menu, without using alacarte?
[07:49] <Neo8750> well that didn't fix it
[07:49] <red_> i think sudo has to be the first thing
[07:50] <H080J03> it is
[07:50] <H080J03> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.old | sed "s/dapper/edgy/" > /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[07:51] <lupine_85> H080J03: sed neesds sudoing as well
[07:51] <H080J03> oh
[07:51] <Flamekebab> I need a bit of help - I'm trying to install libiec61883, but it's not in the repositories
[07:51] <Flamekebab> I can find it online in a repository
[07:51] <Flamekebab> but I can't find out how to add it
[07:51] <padee> hi everyone. i am in serious ubuntu-xserver-troubles. would be great,if anyone could give me some hints...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> may be safer to do it as user. to a file in the homedir.. THEN check and  copy it over. :P
[07:51] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: have you updated your sources.list?
[07:51] <lampshade> so vga=792 did work to give me pretty colors.  Sadly, I looked that up in the gentoo handbook cause I couldn't find an Ubuntu listing for it  ^_^
[07:51] <H080J03> nope
[07:51] <H080J03> didn't like that
[07:51] <H080J03> same thing
[07:52] <iceman24k> anyone have any idea why installing to a SATA harddrive would fail
[07:52] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, I can't update it to add a repository when I don't know the exact address to add it
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> or just fire up a text editor and do a search/replace. :P
[07:52] <lupine_85> sudo sed <regex> -i /etc/apt/sources.list.old would work
[07:52] <Flamekebab> the files I want are here - http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/main/libi/libiec61883/
[07:52] <lupine_85> assuming sources.list.old exists
[07:52] <Flamekebab> but they require some version of libc6 that I don't have
[07:52] <covOPprometheus> hello guys! has anyone experienced a cdrom problem, only reading cd's randomly? Meaning normally not recognizing disks and suddenly doing so
[07:52] <H080J03> yea but pipes are cooler
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> -sh /boot/vmlinuz <--- anyone know what that does?
[07:52] <Flamekebab> and I figure that by adding the repository it'll work out the dependency issue
[07:52] <lupine_85> only cold-water pipes
[07:53] <H080J03> yea sources.list.old exist
[07:53] <H080J03> i just made it
[07:53] <lupine_85> note also that only repos main restricted universe and multiverse are valid right now
[07:53] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: so is it a .deb file or something?
[07:53] <Flamekebab> yeah
[07:53] <lupine_85> so edgy-backports doesn't exist, for instance
[07:53] <optimusprime> hmmm....I've got a question......does "*" have to be in the file name in order to unpack it?.....example tar -xf packagename*
[07:53] <Flamekebab> but when I try and run it the package installer complains about a libc6 dependecy
[07:53] <lupine_85> optimusprime: "*" is a wildcard
[07:53] <Flamekebab> but I have libc6 and libc6-dev installed
[07:53] <lupine_85> it gets placed by all the matching files
[07:54] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: what are you using to run it? dpkg?
[07:54] <linnuxxy> how to install gmake on dapper?
[07:54] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, the graphical deb installer in dapper
[07:54] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: what about using gdebi from the CLI?
[07:54] <Flamekebab> I'll give it a go with dpkg
[07:54] <optimusprime> so it doesn't have to be there?
[07:55] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: i used gdebi to install democracy (http://www.getdemocracy.com) and it resolved all my dependencys with no issues.
[07:56] <asodel> i have an amd64. what packages should i get? amd64 or x86?
[07:56] <effer> hi all...i'm trying to get gtk-gnutella to work...its blocked by the firewall in my router.  i talked to one of the dev's about a month ago, and he had told me that i need to "open the port and forward that port 37083 to the machine running gtk-gnutella"....i've just now figured out how to access the web configuration for my router, but now i don't understand what he was telling me to do.  can anyone help me out with this?
[07:56] <covOPprometheus> hello guys! has anyone experienced a cdrom problem, only reading cd's randomly? Meaning normally not recognizing disks and suddenly doing so
[07:57] <tuxub> hey
[07:57] <vicscandl> @bofh
[07:57] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, both dpkg and gdebi complain about the lack of libc6 2.4-1
[07:57] <vicscandl> sorry, wrong channel
[07:57] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: hrm
[07:57] <dpupp> im getting: sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy | does anyone have  a hin
[07:57] <padee> does anyone has any idea how to restart xserver without internet connection (without apt-get)??
[07:58] <dpupp> hint*
[07:58] <tuxub> how can i change the encoding of a running app? ubuntu is using utf-8 but i need to run a mysqlcc instance with iso-8859
[07:58] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:58] <Ash-Fox> padee, ctrl + alt + backspace?
[07:58] <Flamekebab> certainly
[07:58] <Flamekebab> one mo
[07:58] <lampshade> padee: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart the xserver
[07:58] <marros> lupine_85: no we can't, it is a commercial app we need for testing our software
[07:58] <tuxub> i can export LC_ALL="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
[07:58] <LuisMendes> is there any other way to edit the GNOME menu, without using alacarte?
[07:58] <tuxub> but i need to have the en_US.ISO-8859-1 encoding installed
[07:59] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23347
[07:59] <lampshade> padee: it uses the word server but doesn't mean like internet server...  it just means the X graphical interface server on your machine that other programs talk and listen to basically
[07:59] <padee> ash-fox, ok, wrong question. ubuntu isn't running at all. it's only starting the services...
[07:59] <EmxBA> how utf8 fonts can be shown in terminal? in gnome
[08:00] <jrib> LuisMendes: manually editing .desktop files
[08:01] <LuisMendes> jrib, cedega created a new category under 'applications', and alacarte can't remove it... and I've found nothing on the .desktop files... any suggestion?
[08:01] <npster> can someone help me with hibernating. I can not go into hibernation, it all goes well but there is a problem HELP ???
[08:01] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: you have some of the backports sections commented out. perhaps that is where that is?
[08:01] <lakin> hi all, anyone know where I can change the location that X expects to find the SecurityPolicy file?  Apparently some rogue Xgl updates screwed this up for me on the latest dapper (xgl is from other repositories)
[08:01] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, I'll try uncomment them
[08:01] <EmxBA> lakin: try #ubuntu-xgl
[08:02] <covOPprometheus> hello guys! has anyone experienced a cdrom problem, only reading cd's randomly? Meaning normally not recognizing disks and suddenly doing so
[08:02] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: cause i just ran `sudo apt-cache search libc6` and it found them.
[08:02] <H080J03> is there any way to apt-get dist-downgrade?
[08:02] <PingunZ> How can I completely remove GDM ? also the /usr/share/gdm folder ? and then reinstall it ..
[08:02] <jrib> LuisMendes: hmm no, I thought the menu was only determined by .desktop files
[08:02] <EmxBA> PingunZ: sudo apt-get remove gdm
[08:02] <EmxBA> and then sudo apt-get install gdm
[08:03] <PingunZ> EmxBA, I tried that, also the --purge function ..
[08:03] <EmxBA> and?
[08:03] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, that's not the problem - the problem is that libc6 that is in there is like, 2.3
[08:03] <PingunZ> It doesn't remove the /usr/share/gdm function
[08:03] <Flamekebab> I need 2.4-1 at least
[08:03] <EmxBA> then remove it on your own, PingunZ
[08:04] <PingunZ> EmxBA, Won't that make any apt-conflicts ?
[08:04] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: ahhhh sorry about that... hrm... i'm not sure then... gimme a bit to stew on it
[08:04] <PingunZ> EmxBA, sudo rm -rf /usr/share/gdm ?
[08:04] <Flamekebab> I'm going to try and install the package manually
[08:04] <EmxBA> if you have deleted gdm trough apt, then you can safely remove with "sudo rm -rf /usr/share/gdm"
[08:04] <EmxBA> PingunZ:
[08:05] <PingunZ> Flamekebab, do sudo apt-cache search libc6 |grep -dev
[08:05] <bluefox83> i have an md5sum mismatch in my sources..how do i fix that?
[08:05] <PingunZ> Flamekebab, that should give you the package you need
[08:05] <lampshade> bluefox83: not your problem, is being reported by other people something wrong elsewhere
[08:05] <PingunZ> ok emuzesto I'll try
[08:06] <joaquinz> hi!
[08:06] <Flamekebab> PingunZ, that just gives an error
[08:06] <joaquinz> i've a question
[08:06] <bluefox83> lampshade, so basically i can't do a dist-upgrade?
[08:06] <Flamekebab> "grep: unknown directories method"
[08:06] <joaquinz> does the radeon xorg's ati driver support 3d acceleration?
[08:06] <emuzesto> PingunZ: You do that!
[08:06] <lampshade> bluefox83: I don't know, not sure on the details, but I've just noticed like 2 or 3 people coming in with that same question which makes me think that it is a problem with the servers that will get resolved soon
[08:07] <bluefox83> lampshade, ok
[08:07] <jrib> bluefox83: yes, that happened to me earlier too (I gave up and decided to try later)
[08:07] <vicscandl> bluefox83: yea, i'm having the same problem... have a pastebin on it, and i'm just retrying my apt-get every half hour.
[08:07] <bluefox83> guess i'll just give it a few days
[08:07] <padee> ok, following is happenig: startup, grub is ok, it loads the services, all ok, and then there is the message that xserver isn't set up correctly. and with $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i get the message, that xserver is missing or not working properly.
[08:08] <bluefox83> someone is probably updating packages, and the md5sum needs updating
[08:08] <vicscandl> bluefox83: that was my guess
[08:10] <PingunZ> Flamekebab, still not working ?
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[08:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:10] <Flamekebab> PingunZ, what do you mean?
[08:10] <PingunZ> Flamekebab, check pm
[08:11] <padee> other question: how can I load my last functionning ubuntu configuration and run it?
[08:11] <jrib> padee: check /etc/X11 for backups
[08:12] <padee> tnx jrib. and how do I run the backups?
[08:12] <jrib> padee: just rename them to xorg.conf
[08:12] <jrib> (and restart X)
[08:13] <lost> hi evrbdy, can kubuntu and ubuntu work together??
[08:13] <SgtCyrex> !codecs
[08:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <jrib> lost: yes
[08:14] <covOPprometheus> could anyone tell me where to search for the problem, if a cdrom-drive only reads cd's some few times
[08:14] <covOPprometheus> ?
[08:14] <padee> jrib:tnx
[08:14] <padee> I'll try it
[08:14] <jrib> padee: ubuntu is ubuntu with the ubuntu-desktop package and kubuntu is ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:14] <jrib> padee: and you can use kde apps on gnome and vice versa
[08:15] <eddie> anyone in here have much experience with hylafax?
[08:15] <eddie> I am trying to set up a client
[08:15] <eddie> and it is driving me nuts
[08:16] <eddie> help
[08:17] <_DvP_> 'Soir all
[08:20] <lost> I have ubuntu, and installs kde from the repositorios of ubuntu, but yestaday put in my /etc/apt/sources.list the repositories of kubuntu and upgrade my kde to 3.5.4 but now my screen works bad, uninstall fglrx and I am using vesa but even so the image does not see ok, what's wrong?
[08:20] <lost> what can i do?
[08:20] <optimusprime> what's "libgtk2.0-dev"?
[08:21] <rumix> a devel-package^^
[08:21] <covOPprometheus> could anyone tell me where to search for the problem, if a cdrom-drive only reads cd's some few times?
[08:21] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: any luck with manual?
[08:21] <Flamekebab> no luck
[08:21] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, I found that installing the later package by hand ballses things up
[08:22] <lost> i've libegtk2.0  version 2.8.20
[08:22] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: no need for a tea-bag on your OS. ;)
[08:22] <Flamekebab> I need libc6 2.4-1 so I can install libiec61883
[08:22] <Flamekebab> which in turn I need to install Kino
[08:23] <jrib> Flamekebab: why not use the kino in the repositories?
[08:23] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: what is Kino?
[08:23] <iGuanA> what is kino?
[08:23] <vicscandl> !Kino > vicscandl
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <vicscandl> !kino > vicscandl
[08:23] <vicscandl> who manages the bots?
[08:23] <jrib> vicscandl: Seveas is their master
[08:24] <iGuanA> write in your sources.list deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:24] <iGuanA> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:24] <iGuanA> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[08:24] <iGuanA> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[08:24] <iGuanA> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-latest dapper main
[08:24] <iGuanA> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[08:24] <iGuanA> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[08:24] <iGuanA> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[08:24] <jrib> !paste > iGuanA
[08:24] <vicscandl> SPAM!
[08:24] <kasia> hallo
[08:24] <Flamekebab> jrib, because that's like, 0.8.0
[08:24] <Flamekebab> I want 0.9.2
[08:24] <iGuanA> sorry
[08:24] <Flamekebab> and Edgy only has 0.9.0
[08:24] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, Kino is a handy little video editing app
[08:25] <jazzrocker> is there a way i can migrate my existing Ubuntu system from my 70G partition to my new 120G disk?
[08:25] <covOPprometheus> could anyone tell me where to search for the problem, if a cdrom-drive only reads cd's some few times?
[08:25] <H080J03> what would happen if i wget *
[08:25] <jazzrocker> i know i could do a reinstall and reconfigure by hand manually everything i need and then pull my home folder
[08:25] <H080J03> would i download the internet?
[08:25] <jazzrocker> but that's such a large deal
[08:25] <jackster_> hey anyone know how I would factorise 3x^2 - 15x + 18  ?
[08:26] <jrib> jackster_: try #math
[08:26] <jackster_> okeydokey
[08:26] <vicscandl> Flamekebab: yea, i'll have to look into that... thanks
[08:26] <davin_> Hi guys, this might sound stupid, but are you able to use 2 shells in 'recovery mode'? I am going to dd restore my PC but Id like to use irssi at the same time...
[08:26] <lupine_85> jazzrocker: partition your new disc however you want it, then cp -a <list of dirs> /path/to/mountpoint
[08:26] <JDahl> jackster_, or #secondorderpolys
[08:26] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, well there wouldn't be a list of dirs :)
[08:26] <partha> anybody having problems with gdb in edgy
[08:26] <vicscandl> H080J03: downloading the internet is a hard task.
[08:27] <lupine_85> alternatively, after partitioning you can dd if=/dev/old-partition of=/dev/new-partition
[08:27] <H080J03> hmm
[08:27] <JoseStefan> I'm getting MD5 Sum mismatch from 'dapper-backports main' @ us.archive...
[08:27] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: cant you just type CTRL-ALT-F1? (or CTRL-F1)?
[08:27] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, that's the idea, can i just copy my root partition over manually?
[08:27] <vicscandl> H080J03: what specifically are you looking for?
[08:27] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, yeah i looked into the dd thing
[08:27] <lupine_85> then resize the fielsystem in the new partition to the right size
[08:27] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: what does it do?
[08:27] <H080J03> vicscandl, wget * is the command to do it tho right?
[08:27] <partha> i just upgraded to edgy - and gdb has some problem with loading the frame pointers in gdb
[08:27] <Flamekebab> vicscandl, at least then you'd be telling the truth when you say like a techno-weenie "I have the internet at home"
[08:27] <lupine_85> H080J03: wget \*
[08:27] <BeShaMo> hi, I made a custom kernel and then installed the non-deb nvidia drivers for it, and it all seems to have worked however X says that it can't find the nvidia module
[08:27] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: it creates another virtual terminal, if that's what u meant..
[08:27] <partha> egdy features 6.4.90 of gdb
[08:27] <H080J03> why would you have to escape the *
[08:27] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: I see that ctrl+alt+F1 is my current shell, but when I open others I just get a blinking _
[08:27] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, how do i resize a filesystem (e.g. not a partition?) or do you mean resize the partition?
[08:27] <lampshade> davin_: you should be able to get to get new shells with CTRL-ALT-F1, F2, etc for different shells.  Or, you can load irssi and just Ctrl-z and standby it and then fg to get it back when you need it
[08:28] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, i was told i'd probably have to keep partition sizes the same
[08:28] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: try CTRL-ALT-F2, F3, etc.
[08:28] <lupine_85> I'm talking about the filesystem
[08:28] <H080J03> lol
[08:28] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: I did, just a blinking '_'
[08:28] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, yeah i've never resized a filesystem then
[08:28] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: then you can switch back..
[08:28] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: that's strange...
[08:28] <H080J03> i actaully staterd to download the internet
[08:28] <lupine_85> jazzrocker: what fs are you using?
[08:28] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, ext3
[08:28] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: when i do it it just works..
[08:28] <Flamekebab> I wonder where it starts, H080J03
[08:28] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, will mke2fs do it?
[08:28] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: yeah, I just want to use 2 shells at the same time because I cannot ctrl+z/fg when its dd'ing
[08:29] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, or is there like rze2fs or something?
[08:29] <H080J03> started in the directory i was in
[08:29] <vicscandl> H080J03: can you burn me a DVD when you are done?
[08:29] <davin_> wait lemme try and quit irssi and open a new one, brb
[08:29] <lupine_85> ok, IIRC you first remove the journal, then use the resize program
[08:29] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: i dont know i you can use multiple virtual terminals in recovery mode.
[08:29] <H080J03> its gonna have to be like a 64 layerd blu ray
[08:29] <lupine_85> whose name I forget (not mkfs)
[08:29] <H080J03> but yea sure
[08:29] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, lol and what do i use to remove the journal?
[08:29] <jazzrocker> dang
[08:29] <lupine_85> it's probably best to google for the commands
[08:29] <lupine_85> I use reiserfs :)
[08:30] <lupine_85> Alternatively, you could probably resize the fs in qparted or gparted
[08:30] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, i was told LVM could make this process easier?
[08:30] <[ATM] Nightshift> welcome back davin
[08:30] <davin_> only ctrl+alt+f1 (current) is accessible
[08:30] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, have you ever used it?
[08:30] <lupine_85> it "can" do
[08:30] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: thanks :-)
[08:30] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: youre welcome
[08:30] <lupine_85> IMO it's a waste of space for a home install
[08:31] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, i'm not just a casual home user :P
[08:31] <lupine_85> it's useful if you're resizing your partitions on a regular vasis
[08:31] <padee> ok. I tried the xorg.conf-backup but it didn't work. I also checked the message after reconfigure xserver-xorg and it says that xserver is broken or not fully installed. furthermore: after the xserver error message I got around 20 messager beginning with [4294710.525000] . I have no clue what to do...
[08:31] <lupine_85> erm, basis. If not, it's just not worth the hassle
[08:31] <morena_mr> ola
[08:31] <morena_mr> hello
[08:31] <davin_> Maybe someone else can help me, im trying to use 2 shells at the same time (I want to use irssi and dd to restore a backup of my PC at the same time) but when I press ctrl+alt+f2 - f12 I just get a blinking '_'
[08:31] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, so will dd copy the partition map too?
[08:31] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, or i have to repartition first?
[08:32] <Bennedetto> alright, all,  i need another quick answer... my gentoo skills aren't helping me here :S  I need to install a package named gnome-compiz-manager, yet whenever i apt-get it can't find the package
[08:32] <Bennedetto> how can i get it
[08:32] <duckdown> jddjhfd
[08:32] <davin_> Bennedetto: try and see if it exists in Synaptic if you have x
[08:32] <Bennedetto> k, i do
[08:32] <davin_> Bennedetto: Also make sure the compiz repos are added
[08:33] <lupine_85> jazzrocker: only use dd to copy a partition, not the entire disc
[08:33] <Bennedetto> i did that, i installed most of compiz as per a how to i followed
[08:33] <Bennedetto> it just missed this one package
[08:33] <lupine_85> e.g. dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1
[08:33] <davin_> Bennedetto: I had the same problem with 'gset-compiz'
[08:33] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, ahhh
[08:33] <lupine_85> !ext2resize
[08:33] <ubotu> ext2resize: an ext2 filesystem resizer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.19-3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 484 kB
[08:33] <morena_mr> $3#there is somebody is of Spain?
[08:33] <lupine_85> that's what you want
[08:33] <segosa> eh
[08:33] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, and must the destination partition be of the same size as the originating partition? or that's what the resize fs is for?
[08:33] <davin_> morena_mr: If spanish is your only language, use #ubuntu-es
[08:34] <lupine_85> jazzrocker: you just remove the journal first (however that's done)
[08:34] <lupine_85> jazzrocker: it must be at least the same size
[08:34] <davin_> Ctrl+Alt+F2-F8 shells are inaccessible, just a blinking '_'
[08:34] <vicscandl> for all of you with that MD5 issue while doing apt-get, I was just successful.
[08:34] <morena_mr> no tengo ni idea de ingles
[08:34] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, remove the journal from which partition? destination or original?
[08:34] <wtroche> what is the kernel-source package called?
[08:34] <JoseStefan> !es > morena_mr
[08:34] <lupine_85> if larger, you just ext2resize it
[08:34] <morena_mr> k alguien able n espanol
[08:34] <lupine_85> the destination :)
[08:34] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: maybe its because im root?
[08:34] <Bennedetto> davin_: i couldn't find it in synaptic
[08:35] <jrib> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:35] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, i'm using the original partition right now as my system?
[08:35] <jazzrocker> gah
[08:35] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, no ? on that one :)
[08:35] <davin_> Bennedetto: Some of the compiz packages are gone, I guess you just have to skip it, I had the same with that one and gset-compiz
[08:35] <Neo8750> is there a kernel parameter that makes so you can set what tty it shows on?
[08:35] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: should really matter. when im root it also just works
[08:35] <padee> ok. I tried the xorg.conf-backup to run xserver again, but it didn't work. I also checked the message after reconfigure xserver-xorg and it says that xserver is broken or not fully installed. furthermore: after the xserver error message I got around 20 messages beginning with [4294710.525000] .... I have no clue what to do...any ideas anyone?
[08:35] <H080J03> so how ugly is it when you apt-get dist-upgrade into edgy?
[08:35] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, will that affect anything? can dd still read everything it needs to?
[08:35] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: maybe its something with your keyboard settings.
[08:36] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: Hang on im gonna reboot and try again by deloading X brb
[08:36] <lupine_85> jazzrocker: you're just reading so it should be fine
[08:36] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, i'm downloading a lot of stuff right now, i imagine I should probably stop that while i run dd
[08:36] <wtroche> I cant locate the kernel-source files, what is it called?
[08:36] <lupine_85> erm, yeah :)
[08:36] <lupine_85> !linux-source
[08:36] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:36] <jazzrocker> k
[08:36] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: that CTRL-ALT-F2, and the like doesnt match with changing virtual terminals.
[08:36] <wtroche> thank you
[08:37] <lost> I have ubuntu, and installs kde from the repositorios of ubuntu, but yestaday put in my /etc/apt/sources.list the repositories of kubuntu and upgrade my kde to 3.5.4 but now my screen works bad, uninstall fglrx and I am using vesa but even so the image does not see ok, what's wrong? what can i do?
[08:37] <davin_> Hehe it worked
[08:37] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: congratulations :-)
[08:38] <LiteWait> what a pisser...xubunutu liveCD recognized my atmel-based wifi perfect, installed to HD now (I think) it won't load with an error like "cs: warning: no high memory available, cd: unable to map card memory!"  Anyone seen this before?
[08:38] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: thanks for you help!
[08:38] <morena_mr> jjjyou know to speak in Spanish?
[08:38] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: no problem
[08:38] <jazzrocker> lupine_85, do you know how to erase/zero data when formatting?
[08:38] <morena_mr> who is of Spain or understands the Spanish please that she opens a conversation to me
[08:38] <zer0_> need help with apt-get
[08:38] <[ATM] Nightshift> morena_mr: try joining #ubuntu-es
[08:38] <lupine_85> jazzrocker: use wipe
[08:38] <segosa> morena_mr: #... what [ATM] Nightshift said
[08:38] <lupine_85> !wipw
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wipw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <davin_> morena_mr: use #ubuntu-es
[08:38] <lupine_85> !wipe
[08:38] <ubotu> wipe: Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.20-1 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 120 kB
[08:39] <jazzrocker> thanks
[08:39] <lupine_85> works for filesystems too
[08:40] <tayirvadai> i have hp compaq nc 6230 laptop with 6 in 1 card reader. has anyone configured their card reader?
[08:40] <Neo8750> is there a kernel parameter that can be set at boot that makes it so you can set what tty it shows on?
[08:40] <davin_> okay guys im restoring it now with dd :-)
[08:41] <davin_> I have to say dd is the best and most simple copying/recovery tool ever created
[08:41] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin_: good luck :_)
[08:41] <davin_> fg
[08:41] <davin_> asd
[08:41] <[ATM] Nightshift> :-D
[08:41] <davin_> oops sorry
[08:41] <davin_> irssi and dmesg are blending together o_O
[08:42] <davin_> wait brb
[08:42] <covOPprometheus> jackster_, did you get my message?
[08:42] <tayirvadai> has anyone tried configuring their card reader?
[08:42] <davin_> okay fixed
[08:43] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: Automatix screwed my apps/gnome so thats why im restoring :-)
[08:43] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin_: ooh. is it working :-)
[08:44] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: Yep, im chatting here with irssi in ctrl+alt+f1 while the dd is restoring my pc on the ctrl+alt+f2 :-)
[08:44] <bur[n] er> davin_: screen is cooler still
[08:44] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: nice
[08:45] <sampo_v2> which version of gnome does dapper have?
[08:45] <H080J03> any one know of any good css editors for gnome or kde?
[08:45] <H080J03> some thing with a live preview
[08:45] <bur[n] er> 2.14
[08:45] <davin_> gah im getting these random dmesg messages in my irssi shell about my vmware net not working or something (its off)
[08:45] <optimusprime> ubuntu forums always this slow?....dang such a long load up.....
[08:45] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: what if you let your irssi run in F3?
[08:45] <sampo_v2> bur[n] er: thanks, will the gnome version in dapper be upgraded ever, or will the newer versions appear in later ubuntu versions?
[08:45] <pecisk> hei crowd, what a hell happens with lot of mirrors? They spew errors one afther another
[08:46] <davin_> [ATM] Nightshift: lets try that brb
[08:46] <m1sh-L> when i'm running evolution, every time after the start there is a error; The Application "evolution-2.6" has quit unexpectedly. what can i do?
[08:46] <clusty> i am having a bit of apache problems. How can I make the html root accesible to every1?
[08:47] <jackster_> covOPprometheus, sorry, apparently PM is only for registered users, oops. Bit its ok i got it now, thanks
[08:47] <xopher> how can I unzip many zip archives to the same directory at the same time?
[08:47] <JoseStefan> clusty, try: chmod
[08:47] <davin> meh same
[08:47] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: lets hope it works
[08:48] <ze4502> any of you guys know how to activate the widgets palette in monodevelop?
[08:48] <davin> :-)
[08:48] <clusty> JoseStefan, done that. I suspect its some http config issue
[08:48] <davin> [ATM] Nightshift: do you know how to switch between channels in irssi/bitchx?
[08:48] <clusty> the file has been messed with quite a bit
[08:48] <irony> Hi, I'm having an issue with viewing videos.  They play fine the first time I open a video program, but if I then close that and open another video file the colors are messed up, almost inverted.  Has anyone seen this before?  This is true for all the video programs I have tried (gxine, totem, mplayer)
[08:48] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: i think it was CTRL-N or /NEXT and /PREV
[08:49] <JoseStefan> clusty, could you re-phrase the problem
[08:49] <davin> [ATM] Nightshift: k hang on
[08:49] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: im not using irssi so i dont really know.
[08:50] <clusty> JoseStefan, i have a virtual host. here is specify a DocumentRoot which is world readable
[08:50] <ze4502> any of you guys know how to activate the widgets palette in monodevelop?
[08:50] <clusty> JoseStefan, also I have a Directory stanza where i say allow from all
[08:51] <covOPprometheus> jackster_, hehe no prob
[08:51] <kasia> misio
[08:51] <misiek__> kasia
[08:51] <misiek__> :)
[08:51] <misiek__> kuzwa
[08:51] <misiek__> nie wiem jak na privie rozmawiac
[08:51] <kasia> co?
[08:51] <misiek__> :)
[08:52] <kasia> no wlasnie ja tez nie wiem
[08:52] <kasia> hehe
[08:52] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: did it work?
[08:52] <misiek__> co za syf
[08:52] <ze4502> any of you guys know how to activate the widgets palette in monodevelop?
[08:52] <kasia> ta mozna swoj pokoj zrobic?
[08:52] <misiek__> chyba tak
[08:52] <kasia> ale jak?
[08:52] <kasia> bo tutaj ciezko gadac
[08:52] <stefg> irony, could be that the xv driver (accelerated video) has problems in determining how much video memeory your card really has. I'd sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and state the amount of vram explicitly in the configuration.
[08:52] <misiek__> napisz cos takiego /join #misiekkasia
[08:52] <kasia> gdzie?
[08:53] <misiek__> tutaj slesz /join #misiekkasia
[08:53] <covOPprometheus> could anyone tell me where to search for the problem, if a cdrom-drive only reads cd's some few times?
[08:54] <davin> hmm ill just stay in #ubuntu then
[08:54] <davin> [ATM] Nightshift: I also found a way to 'refresh' the screen when the dmesg messages come up, just ctrl+z > clear > fg :-)
[08:54] <davin> brb
[08:55] <garath> hello
[08:55] <ze4502> any of you guys know how to activate the widgets palette in monodevelop?
[08:56] <garath> can someone redirect me to the last post when the update destroyed the X?
[08:56] <cArNy_> whats the command to get to root in terminal?
[08:56] <clusty> JoseStefan, knock knock :-D
[08:56] <stefg> sudo -s or sudo -i
[08:56] <jon3k> carny: just use sudo
[08:56] <cArNy_> sudo
[08:57] <cArNy_> thats what I was trying to remeber
[08:57] <cArNy_> brainfart
[08:57] <jon3k> carny: just prepend your command with sudo
[08:57] <JoseStefan> clusty, you're gonna have tu state the problem differently, i'm kinda lost here
[08:57] <garath> can someone redirect me to the last post when the update destroyed the X?
[08:57] <ze4502> any of you guys know how to activate the widgets palette in monodevelop?
[08:57] <cArNy_> and maybe tomorrow I'll remember how to spell
[08:57] <cArNy_> thanks jon3k
[08:57] <jon3k> carny: not a problem :)
[08:57] <JoseStefan> clusty, by default the www root should be accessible to all
[08:58] <jon3k> JoseStefan: you mean readable I assume?
[08:58] <jon3k> i don't believe it should be world writeable :)
[08:58] <garath> can someone help me please?
[08:58] <pricechild> Could anyone help me figure out why my apache doesn't run my php files but isntead offers them for download?
[08:59] <Neo8750> do you have php installed?
[08:59] <JoseStefan> clusty, jon3k: i'm confused as to what "access" he is refering too, local users or the web
[08:59] <garath> my x just not working - just after updated the system the x stop working
[08:59] <[ATM] Nightshift> davin: you must first join another channel with the JOIN command... have u done that already?
[08:59] <clusty> JoseStefan, i am talking through a web browser
[09:00] <JoseStefan> clusty: what response (msg) are the users getting?
[09:00] <pricechild> i have php5 and libapache2-mod-php5 installed Neo8750
[09:00] <lampshade> pricechild: you install things like libapache-mod-php5?  if so, then it is probably as simple as editing the apache conf
[09:00] <[ATM] Nightshift> anyway, im leaving guys. bye! :-)
[09:00] <clusty> JoseStefan, http://vision3d.iro.umontreal.ca/
[09:00] <pricechild> i've done sudo a2enmod php5 followed by sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart as well but no luck :(
[09:00] <clusty> JoseStefan, forbidden
[09:01] <pricechild> lampshade i guess i'll take a look at a conf file then...
[09:01] <clusty> its world readable as far as file mermissions go
[09:01] <garath> my x just not working - just after updated the system the x stop working
[09:01] <JoseStefan> clusty: that's typical for missing index.htm files, and no IndexOptions in apache (which generate directory trees automatically)
[09:02] <ze4502> any of you guys know how to activate the widgets palette in monodevelop?
[09:02] <Subhuman> ze4502, bang your head on it repeatdly.
[09:02] <JoseStefan> clusty: do you have an index.htm file on the root?
[09:03] <clusty> yes
[09:03] <clusty> how do i setup indexoption?
[09:03] <ze4502> Subhuman: it increasingly looks like that is what i'm going to have to do
[09:03] <garath> my x just not working - just after updated the system the x stop working
[09:03] <JoseStefan> clusty: it 'could' be bad access permissions too
[09:04] <clusty> JoseStefan, i made them a+rx
[09:04] <xdude_> garath - did you back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:04] <JoseStefan> clusty: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexoptions
[09:04] <garath> yep and change it back
[09:05] <garath> yet it is not working
[09:05] <xdude_> nvidia card?
[09:05] <garath> ati - and didn't config it yet
[09:05] <Duski> hi all, does anybody know a "dual head" how-to that actualy works with ati? (tried few but best result was dual head with one black screen[only mouse cursor can seen be there]  + one regular desktop(on primary device))... i have really tried to get this without IRC help
[09:05] <garath> so it is the basic x
[09:06] <stefg> !xinerama
[09:06] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:06] <zer0> need help with apt-get...anyone?
[09:06] <xdude_> I think that is where you need to concentrate, anyone correct me if I am off base here
[09:06] <JoseStefan> clusty, what happens when you view the webserver from the localhost?
[09:06] <Duski> ubotu: tnx
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tnx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <clusty> JoseStefan, from localhost it works
[09:07] <stefg> !me
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !twinview
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <stefg> !ubotu
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[09:07] <garath> xdude_: I sound that this is basic melfunction when u update to specify version
[09:07] <JoseStefan> clusty, than you must be having IP based restrictions on one of your .conf
[09:07] <zer0> need help with apt-get...anyone?
[09:07] <stefg> !anyone
[09:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:07] <kevans> I'm trying to .configure something and it complains that GTK+-2.8 is required to compile. I have installed build-essential. How can I fix this?
[09:08] <synjet> zer0: shoot the q, someone will pick it up
[09:08] <lesshaste> how do you list all members of a group?
[09:08] <lupine_85> kevans: install the gtk+ -dev package, I'd imagine
[09:08] <lupine_85> search for it in synaptic/whatever
[09:08] <clusty> JoseStefan, this is quite fogged up :(
[09:08] <ze4502> Subhuman: it increasingly looks like that is what i'm going to have to do
[09:09] <ze4502> any of you guys know how to activate the widgets palette in monodevelop?
[09:09] <ze4502> Subhuman: sorry about that
[09:09] <xdude_> I had it happen more than once.   But I always got it working again - by working with the xorg.conf  frustrating sometimes, but I realize working with betas it can happen
[09:09] <kevans> thanks, i'll try that
[09:09] <JoseStefan> clusty, have you made large modifications to the supplied .conf files?
[09:09] <garath> thanx
[09:09] <zer0> i tried to install jedit but it failed and now i can't do anything with aptitude, synaptic or any package manager :S
[09:10] <stefg> zer0: WHAT'STHE ERROR MESSAGE?
[09:10] <zer0> http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdak6.png
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0:  How did you try to install it?
[09:10] <stefg> oops, hit caps by accident
[09:10] <zer0> there's a picture
[09:10] <jiff> I'm on an xp machine right now, but can I install ubuntu onto an external hd
[09:10] <zer0> aptitude install jedit
[09:10] <jiff> then plug it in when i want linux
[09:11] <davin> anyone need help?
[09:11] <jiff> davin: can I install ubunto onto an external hd then plug it in when I want to use linux?
[09:11] <Neo8750> yes
[09:11] <davin> jiff: yes but you need to install the MBR on your first hard disk if you still want to use Windows (if I am correct)
[09:12] <clusty> JoseStefan, fixed
[09:12] <CyberSky> alo
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jiff: You can also run livecd and keep your programs, docs and other stuff on a usb stick
[09:12] <CyberSky> any body help me
[09:12] <davin> jiff: also you will need a bios that supports booting from a usb hard disk of course (or choosing where to boot from, my compaq presario sr desktop has a boot menu when you hit Esc at bootup)
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: Have you run any of the scripts like Automatix or Easyubuntu?
[09:12] <zer0> nop
[09:12] <zer0> what are those??
[09:12] <CyberSky> how can im login to root on my computer ?
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: Garbage
[09:13] <clusty> JoseStefan, some dumb alias
[09:13] <davin> CyberSky: root is a invisible user, use sudo before a command you wish to execute as root
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !root > CyberSky
[09:13] <fujiroam> hello?
[09:13] <zer0> don't worry i didn't even knew them :P
[09:13] <JoseStefan> clusty, good
[09:13] <fujiroam> can anyone hear me or have i disconnected already?
[09:13] <davin> fujiroam: Youre still here
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: great...  could you pastebin your sources.list
[09:13] <dgibbons> can't hear you fujiroam, must have disconnected
[09:13] <clusty> fujiroam, did you spam :-D
[09:14] <stefg> zer0: sudo apt-get remove --purge jedit
[09:14] <davin> ah not on irc
[09:14] <zer0> just give me 3.4 seconds :P
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:14] <jiff> mbr?
[09:14] <davin> can I log out of a shell without rebooting?
[09:14] <davin> just so it goes back to 'ubuntu-desktop login'
[09:14] <stefg> ctrl -d
[09:14] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:15] <lupine_85> kills the xserver
[09:15] <zer0> here goes
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[09:15] <davin> lupine_85: not x
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[09:15] <stefg> Bullsh.. that's restartibg X
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[09:15] <stefg> !paste
[09:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <davin> zer0: www.pastecode.com, no pasting here
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <davin> zer0: stop
[09:15] <JoseStefan> !pastebin > zer0
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[09:15] <davin> zer0: please stop pasting in here
[09:15] <zer0> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[09:15] <zer0> ## upower
[09:15] <zer0> ##deb http://repo.nanofreesoft.org/ubuntu breezy main
[09:15] <zer0> ## compiz
[09:15] <lupine_85> davin: it kills x, then starts a new session
[09:15] <zer0> deb http://compiztools.free.fr/debian unstable main
[09:15] <zer0> ## Skype
[09:16] <zer0> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[09:16] <zer0> ##Picasa for Linux
[09:16] <JoseStefan> it's pit of his reach
[09:16] <zer0> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free
[09:16] <zer0> ##jEDIT
[09:16] <davin> lupine_85: I dont have X, im in recovery shell
[09:16] <zer0> deb http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jedit ./
[09:16] <zer0> deb-src http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jedit ./
[09:16] <stefg> someone mute zer0
[09:16] <JoseStefan> out*
[09:16] <zer0> stefg: that didn't work :S
[09:16] <lupine_85> davin: ah
[09:16] <zer0> sory
[09:16] <lupine_85> reboot?
[09:16] <CyberSky> Zeroo Husssttt
[09:16] <lupine_85> oh, wait
[09:16] <vicscandl> i <3 jEdit
[09:16] <paradizelost> zer0: ever heard of pastebin?
[09:16] <zer0> sorry i didn't knew about pastebin
[09:16] <lupine_85> you need to enter runlevel 2...
[09:16] <davin> lupine_85: irssi in shell 1, pc recovering in shell 2, an empty logged-in shell in shell 3
[09:16] <CyberSky> pastebin . com
[09:16] <stefg> now you do
[09:16] <zer0> i don't really use IRC that much
[09:16] <paradizelost> !pastebin
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:16] <CyberSky> try it now Zero
[09:16] <lupine_85> try telinit 2
[09:16] <vicscandl> pastebin is only in the topic of this channel
[09:17] <davin> meh doesnt matter anyway
[09:17] <zer0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23348
[09:17] <lupine_85> but who reads the topic? ;)
[09:17] <zer0> done
[09:17] <davin> zer0: everyone here has probably forgot to use pastebin, its no big deal but just dont let it happen again, you flooded the whole channel
[09:17] <zer0> don't worry ;)
[09:17] <Garsty> how can I run archive manager from terminal?
[09:17] <davin> zer0: :-)
[09:18] <Garsty> I don't know the name for it :/
[09:18] <davin> Garsty: gdebi?
[09:18] <wtroche> is there a how-to on getting an NVidia card working on Ubuntu?
[09:18] <davin> Garsty: or gtk-gdebi I think
[09:18] <cvt> do i need a firewall?
[09:18] <davin> wtroche: wiki.ubuntu.com > Search for Nvidia > BinaryDriverHowTo/Nvidia
[09:18] <Garsty> that one doesn't start :P
[09:18] <wtroche> davin, thanks
[09:18] <Neo8750> thats werid x is on vt8
[09:19] <zer0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23348
[09:19] <Caplain> cvt: are you behind a router?
[09:19] <davin> is there something like a msn client in a terminal? like irssi/bitchx but for msn
[09:19] <stefg> zer0: comment out the jedit entries from sources.list and try if 'sudo apt-get update' runs fine
[09:20] <davin> meh guys im gonna let this thing recover and try out my freshly shipped kubuntu cd's on the other pc :-) thanks for you help, so long and thanks for the fish
[09:20] <cvt> Caplain, no
[09:20] <davin> davin^zZz
[09:20] <CyberSky> why i cant login , but i was type sudo root
[09:21] <davin^zZz> CyberSky: you cant login as root, you can only execute stuff as root using sudo
[09:21] <zer0> the aptitude update did work
[09:21] <holycow_> hey guys
[09:21] <CyberSky> yes i have using sudo
[09:21] <CyberSky> but this
[09:21] <davin^zZz> CyberSky: for example, if firefox tells you itll only run by root when you type 'firefox' you type 'sudo firefox' (sudo = SUperuser DO)
[09:21] <CyberSky> su: Authentication failure
[09:21] <CyberSky> Sorry.
[09:21] <stefg> zer0: so try sudo aptitude remove jedit noe
[09:21] <holycow_> i just dist upgraded to dapper from breezy and i no longer can add printers ... that is to say on the menu where  you can select the manufacturer there are no entries
[09:21] <zer0> but when i try to do aptitude upgrade or aptitude install xxxx it doesn't
[09:21] <holycow_> has anyone run into this?
[09:22] <holycow_> this has happened on two machines now
[09:22] <davin^zZz> CyberSky: if you want to login as root use sudo -i and your own password or do passwd root to make it visible
[09:22] <davin^zZz> afk
[09:22] <holycow_> !printing
[09:22] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:22] <clusty> JoseStefan, one more thing: how can I make the server go directly to /twiki/bin/view?
[09:23] <darsha__> hi everyone
[09:23] <zer0> the remove part did not work
[09:23] <zer0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23350
[09:23] <cvt> how do i disable the effect this malicious link has over my browser?  /!\ malicious link detected /!\ http://nig.gr/105g
[09:23] <CyberSky> thanks davin
[09:23] <CyberSky> :)
[09:23] <JoseStefan> clusty, changeing the root path in apache is one way, symbolic links is another
[09:23] <CyberSky> :D
[09:23] <Garsty> how can I get my kernel source using apt-get?
[09:24] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: Sorry to drop you , I had to take a call....  make a little money off MS
[09:24] <ph8> hi guys! I'm just installing ubuntu-server and it can't find my dvd (it calls it cdrom) drive! Any idea where it'll be in /dev?
[09:24] <JoseStefan> clusty, i cant reply to PMs, not registered yet
[09:24] <ph8> it's not /dev/cdrom
[09:24] <ph8> and autodetect can't find it
[09:24] <ph8> although the installation's running off it...
[09:24] <zer0> "make a little money off MS" ahh??'
[09:24] <clusty> JoseStefan, so i change documentroot?
[09:25] <clusty> JoseStefan, i also wanna execute the view CGI from that folder
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: Tech support
[09:25] <zer0> ahh
[09:25] <knapper> Hey guys, im looking for a way to cut down on the amount of icons that show in the notification area, any suggestions? Like a way to hide them (xp like) or a tray to contain them (mac like)
[09:25] <Garsty> does linux-amd64-xeon run on pentium 4 machines?
[09:25] <Garsty> or is it only for xeon type intel processors?
[09:25] <orbin> Garsty: search for "linux source" in the repos
[09:26] <JoseStefan> clusty, yes, instead of using the default of /var/www/ you can use whatever you like
[09:27] <psycose> hi, i'm configuring a friend computer, what should i put in /etc/network/interfaces to get the ppp0 loaded automatically ? (i use the folloing command to launch the connection manually sudo pppd call ueagle-atm) thanks
[09:27] <vicscandl> !beagle > vicscandl
[09:27] <knapper> Anyone?
[09:28] <orbin> knapper: you could make a new panel an move the notification applet to it ... and then autohide the panel
[09:28] <synjet> knapper: gdesklets (Mac-like) or drawers on the top panel?
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: Did you install sun Java Runtimes?
[09:29] <CyberSky> sources.list
[09:29] <zer0> i belive i did
[09:29] <knapper> synjet, how can I use drawers to contain the notfi-area icons?
[09:29] <CyberSky> ubutu
[09:29] <zer0> the thing is now i can't install anything :S
[09:29] <knapper> synjet, crikey, nvm... I got it
[09:30] <knapper> I take that back, I didn't
[09:31] <psycose> any tips ?
[09:31] <CyberSky> where i get sources.list update
[09:31] <synjet> knapper: ok, do you want launchers to be grouped/arranged? or have the notification icons to be hidden?
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: Save your existing sources list, rebuild your sources with easy source... reload...  would be a good start...
[09:32] <JoseStefan> !easysource > CyberSky
[09:32] <CyberSky> Jack_Sparrow,  can u give to me sources.list
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: Use pastebin to show the errors. not paste in channel...  :)
[09:32] <knapper> synjet, I want them to be contained in a drawer. I added notification area to the drawer, but I think I need to reboot to get the full effect
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[09:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:32] <knapper> right?
[09:32] <synjet> knapper: you have to add the specific applet to the drawer
[09:32] <zer0> rebuild your sources with easy source... reload...---> ?? easy source??
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> zer0: reload after rebuilding your source.list
[09:33] <psycose> should i write :  iface ueagle-atm inet ppp / provider ueagle-atm in /etc/network/interfaces ? to get it automatically ?
[09:33] <synjet> knapper: for instance, the network icon could be added to the drawer, and then remove the one on the right side
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I run synaptic you would try apt-get update
[09:33] <gbrent> I downloaded a live cd of ubuntu and now I want to install ubuntu but the install Icon is not on the desktop. Anyone know what to do?
[09:33] <knapper> synjet, alright I think I got it. Thanks.
[09:33] <lupine_85> gbrent: what version of ubuntu?
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gbrent: That is odd...
[09:34] <lmosher> fy lmosher
[09:34] <gbrent> how do I find out what version? I forgot
[09:34] <lmosher> Anyone know how to burn and/or convert a CD image file in *.cue and *.img format?
[09:34] <ljlolel> something wrong with nvidia, it says that the kernel driver versions doesnt match the x.org driver version
[09:34] <davidwinter> can someone recommend somewhere I can buy a non-windows branded keyboard?
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ljlolel: Nvidia works fine, what drivers did you install..
[09:35] <psycose> hi, i'm configuring a friend computer, what should i put in /etc/network/interfaces to get the ppp0 loaded automatically ? (i use the folloing command to launch the connection manually sudo pppd call ueagle-atm) thanks
[09:35] <lupine_85> davidwinter: DAS
[09:35] <psycose> should i write :  iface ueagle-atm inet ppp / provider ueagle-atm in /etc/network/interfaces ? to get it automatically ?
[09:35] <andresmujica> !beagle > andresmujica
[09:35] <gbrent> ljlolel: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg-xserver I belive might help you, at least I thinkk thats the command
[09:35] <lupine_85> psycose: you could use a pre-up line
[09:35] <ljlolel> jacki installed nvidia-glx
[09:35] <lupine_85> e.g. pre-up pppd call ueagle-atm
[09:36] <ljlolel> and nvidia-kernel-source, and pretty much most nv packages
[09:36] <lupine_85> (just after the standard iface line)
[09:36] <gbrent> Jack_Sparrow: how do i find the verion I downloaded. It was given to me. it was actually downloaded about a week ago so its daper drake
[09:36] <ljlolel> it says the kernel version is x.xx-5176 while x.org is 5760 or something higher
[09:36] <psycose> lupine_85, sorry i don't know what is the standar iface line
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> gbrent: when you boot the livecd... do you get a menu install or start
[09:37] <lupine_85> iface <interface> inet dhcp
[09:37] <Garsty> I have installed linux-source package, but when trying to compile module for kernel, it says that I don't have the source for my kernel
[09:37] <Garsty> what can I do about it?
[09:37] <davidwinter> lupine_85: thanks for DAS :D
[09:37] <dustobub> How do I just bring up eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces without giving it any address, much like just issuing ifconfig eth0 up?
[09:37] <psycose> lupine_85, well in my case i want to activate a pppoa connection (from usb)
[09:37] <gbrent> Jack_Sparrow: no, just boot live cd IO belive
[09:37] <hantoo> ifup eth0
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ljlolel: What else have you done to your system?
[09:38] <ljlolel> k7 smp kernel
[09:38] <lupine_85> psycose: I have no experience with ppp, sorry
[09:38] <ljlolel> otherwise it's standard
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gbrent: Livecd should not just go to Ubuntu. it should take you to a menu start install, test CD for errors etc
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gbrent: Are you shure it isnt installed top the hard drive?
[09:39] <optimusprime> do I need to download a special prog for ".exe" to work in WINE?
[09:39] <gbrent> Jack_Sparrow: ill reboot and see what happens. It is not installed I garentee that
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:39] <ljlolel> i'll just switch to edgy, hope things work
[09:39] <slimz> hi, i just upgraded to edgy, and the package manager is gone, is just me? or is it removed?
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ljlolel: If you cant get hings to work with Dapper, Edgy may not be the best choice
[09:39] <ljlolel> slimz, go to ubuntu+1 chat
[09:40] <ljlolel> i  hope edgy will have more updated packages for everything and that matches
[09:40] <slimz> ok thanks
[09:40] <isos_> Hello there
[09:40] <isos_> I am trying to use scp to copy files from a michine to another over the LAN but it isn't working ... the output of " scp isos@192.168.0.1:/home/isos/Desktop/test /home/isos/Desktop " is "ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.1 port 22: No route to host"  !!! what does that mean?
[09:40] <hantoo> im tryin to get my intel wireless pro 2100 3b mini pci card to work ;\
[09:41] <stefg> !wifi
[09:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ndiswrapper
[09:41] <Vanique> hi
[09:41] <Vanique> NthDegree: awail ?
[09:41] <Vanique> v
[09:41] <isos_> both are configured right on the network, and both are connected to the internet through the LAN
[09:41] <Vanique> ;] 
[09:41] <Garsty> can I manually update the kernel version?
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Garsty: WHy?
[09:42] <synjet> isos_: can you ssh to that machine? just wondering..
[09:42] <Garsty> module, which I'm trying to install requires a bigger version of it
[09:42] <NthDegree> i'm here
[09:42] <lupine_85> no route to host == no default route most of the time
[09:42] <stefg> Garsty: if the kernel is working properly, then don't touch it.
[09:42] <Garsty> but I need that module installed :/
[09:43] <JosefK> not ubuntu related - but anyone here got a D620?  thinking of cancelling my order if the screens are as bad as they say
[09:43] <stefg> Garsty: what module?
[09:43] <lupine_85> Garsty: you could just compile the module and insmod it
[09:43] <Garsty> CDemu 0.8
[09:43] <Garsty> lupine_85, how to do that? I'm quite new to linux :S
[09:43] <isos_> I used to do that before ... but yesterday I tried to ssh using connect to server but failed ... although I've done the configuration a thousand  times and installed ubuntu more than 20 times on both but this time I dunno what's happening
[09:43] <isos_> it's the first time for me using scp ...
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK:  check the Ubuntu hardware list
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !laptop
[09:44] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[09:44] <lupine_85> Garsty: first you need the linx-headers package relevent to your kernel
[09:44] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: it's not about ubuntu hardware either...
[09:44] <Garsty> I have it
[09:44] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: there've been reports the D620 display is dreadful to look at, with any OS
[09:44] <lupine_85> then you get into the source for the module, and follow the instructions in INSTALL
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: I have 2 610's... not that great
[09:44] <lupine_85> typically just make; sudo make install
[09:44] <stefg> Garsty: the cdemu docs explain that you only need to compile the module... don't change the kernel..
[09:44] <Garsty> when I write make, it says that kernel version is too small :/
[09:44] <lupine_85> then update the kernel
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: My HP is way cool
[09:44] <Red-Sox> Hello, anyway to get on jabber w/o gui in ubuntu?
[09:44] <lupine_85> ==compile your own
[09:44] <CyberSky> remove package
[09:44] <lupine_85> presumably it needs 2.6.17 or later
[09:45] <lupine_85> !kernel
[09:45] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:45] <Garsty> 2.6.16
[09:45] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: heh, by these reports the 620's worst than that :/ already had experience with dell support trying to get the order fixed, and doubt a refund would be easy
[09:45] <lupine_85> yep, download the 2.6.17 source from www.kernel.org
[09:45] <Garsty> so I need to follow that custom build guide?
[09:45] <paradizelost> JosefK: even if you got a refund, it'd be -15% restock fee too...
[09:45] <lupine_85> then follow the instructions above
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: Better to try and cancell the order than stuck fighting a unit for years
[09:45] <lupine_85> *don't* use the linux-source package
[09:46] <JosefK> paradizelost: thankfully not in the UK - we still have statutory rights ;)
[09:46] <paradizelost> ahh.  cool
[09:46] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: I'm inclined to agree, I'll give 'em a call when the guys in India get to their desks tmrw morning..
[09:46] <paradizelost> JosefK: i tend to go for the WUXGA screens, i got one on my inspiron 9300
[09:46] <CyberSky> !package remove
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <paradizelost> CyberSky: apt-get --remove packagename
[09:47] <CyberSky> !uninstal packgae
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstal packgae - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <stefg> !dpkg
[09:47] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:47] <JosefK> yeah, only WXGA+ here I think.  there's a few hundred complaints on dell's forum, it seems to be a Latitude only problem :(
[09:47] <paradizelost> scuse me, CyberSky apt-get remove packagename
[09:47] <isos_> synjet: would the problem be a a closed port?
[09:47] <paradizelost> JosefK: yah, those 600 series w/ the 15" screens..
[09:48] <isos_> I don't have a firewall on neither ... and since I am sure they are both configured tight, where do u think the problem could be?
[09:48] <fujiroam> HEELEL!O!!
[09:48] <paradizelost> JosefK: that's where the coupon codes on techbargains.com are nice
[09:48] <JosefK> ah, hadn't heard of that, thanks :)
[09:48] <ubuntu> jack_sparrow: yeah its only a live CD. I was looking through the help. There is no install. I am downloading a different version myself
[09:48] <recon0> The sound isn't working on my newly installed system. I get a "either Gstreamer plugin not installed or sound card not configured." I own a VIA. Any help?
[09:49] <Nightman> Hello everyone, New to Linux here, Thought I would try it out.  Anyone know if the server side has a graphical interface
[09:49] <paradizelost> isos_: you apt-get install openssh-server right?
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[09:49] <isos_> yes
[09:49] <paradizelost> beyond that, is the sshd service running?
[09:49] <ubuntu> Nightman: no it does not
[09:49] <paradizelost> ps -eaf|grep sshd
[09:49] <isos_> I used ssh a thousand times before
[09:49] <ubuntu> Nightman: you can install it though
[09:49] <ph8> hi guys! I'm just installing ubuntu-server and it can't find my dvd (it calls it cdrom) drive! Any idea where it'll be in /dev? It's not /dev/cdrom or /dev/hda (or anything beginning with hd) - the install's running from it so it should be able to find it!
[09:49] <isos_> that's why I am confused
[09:49] <paradizelost> isos_: can you ssh to the box right now?
[09:49] <Nightman> How would I do that? is it on the CD?
[09:49] <isos_> what do u mean?
[09:49] <paradizelost> ph8: /dev/cdrom can be the dvd drive
[09:50] <ubuntu> ph8: change your repositories... ubuntuguide.org section 4.1
[09:50] <dustobub> Does anyone know how to just bring up eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces without giving it any address, much like just issuing ifconfig eth0 up?
[09:50] <ph8> erm
[09:50] <paradizelost> dustobub: and what would the point of that be?
[09:50] <ph8> it's the install guys
[09:50] <ph8> /dev/cdrom isn't there
[09:50] <ph8> the auto check failed
[09:50] <isos_> paradizelost: what do u mean ssh to the box?
[09:50] <ph8> so i don't know which /dev/ is my dvd drive
[09:50] <eetfunk> how come i can't install php4 with apt-get?  says package not found.  i uncommented repos in sources.list
[09:51] <paradizelost> isos_: rather than using scp, do an ssh user@ip.add.dr.ess
[09:51] <jrib> !info php4
[09:51] <ubotu> php4: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-1build1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[09:51] <Nightman> Where can I find the interface at?
[09:51] <dustobub> I have a server that is running VMware server, and bridging two nics, both of which don't need real addresses, i have been just assigning 1.1.1.1 and 2.2.2.2 randomly
[09:51] <paradizelost> isos_: and see if you can login there
[09:51] <jrib> eetfunk: are you using dapper and you have universe enabled?
[09:51] <MTecknology> How do I edit an NTFS partition from witihin Windows?      I only need to edit one text file.
[09:51] <eetfunk> jrib: yes
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> dustobub: sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth0  ?
[09:51] <isos_> paradizelost: Unable to connect to server. Please check your settings and try again.
[09:51] <dustobub> i have tested it and it works fine with the interface up, but with no address, i just need it to come up like that every reboot
[09:51] <orbin> anyone use a console based mp3/ogg player?
[09:51] <dustobub> yes
[09:51] <isos_> that's the prompt I get
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> MTecknology: Not a good idea
[09:51] <dustobub> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[09:52] <paradizelost> isos_: on the remote box, are you absolutely sure there's no firewall blocking and that the service is currently running
[09:52] <isos_> I am damn sure I have them both configured right
[09:52] <JoseStefan> eetfunk, can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the !pastebin ?
[09:52] <jrib> eetfunk: hmm, should be available to you then.  Did you run 'sudo apt-get update' after uncommenting?
[09:52] <MTecknology> Jack_Sparrow, so... do it from a live cd?
[09:52] <isos_> just installed ubuntu-server on that box
[09:52] <paradizelost> orbin: i believe mp3123 does it
[09:52] <paradizelost> or something like that
[09:52] <eetfunk> http://rafb.net/paste/results/0tE02X25.html
[09:52] <Nightman> How can I install the Graphical Interface on the server side?
[09:52] <paradizelost> isos_: openssh-server is not standard
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> MTecknology: Not a good idea to write/edit anything on NTFS
[09:52] <isos_> what does that mean?
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !fuse
[09:52] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:53] <orbin> paradizelost: well i wsa hoping for recommendatins :)
[09:53] <paradizelost> isos_: if all you did was do the base ubuntu server install, ssh server is not part of that
[09:53] <zer0> still the same error
[09:53] <paradizelost> orbin: that was the recommendation
[09:53] <eetfunk> JoseStefan: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0tE02X25.html
[09:53] <ShoiabSafdar> is it possible!!! I access to my other drive (NTFS) by defalt, and able to write.delete data in ubuntu 5.10
[09:53] <isos_> I remember I installed it manually .. but anyway, I'll go and check
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> MTecknology: You are better off dropping that drive into a different box  with XP to edit that file
[09:53] <paradizelost> it's either mp3123, mpeg123 or something like that
[09:54] <MTecknology> Jack_Sparrow, I am trying to use my NTFS filesystem to edit my ext3 filesystem
[09:54] <paradizelost> isos_: big thing ,make sure the service is started currently
[09:54] <paradizelost> isos_: /etc/init.d/openssh start
[09:54] <JoseStefan> eetfunk: try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install php4
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> MTecknology: Yes do it from livecd
[09:54] <ph8> isos_:  Did you have any cd/dvd drive recognition issues during install?
[09:54] <isos_> it's installed
[09:54] <eetfunk> JoseStefan: ok, i didnt run update, ill try that thanks
[09:55] <isos_> no ...
[09:55] <Garsty> can I upgrade dapper to edgy without installing it from a cd?
[09:55] <paradizelost> ph8: he got done w/ the install, he's not having a similar issue to you by any means
[09:55] <eetfunk> works thanks!
[09:55] <paradizelost> ph8: what type of disc are you trying to install from, and on what type of machine?
[09:55] <paradizelost> !edgy
[09:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> MTecknology: Sorry I misunderstood " How do I edit an NTFS partition from witihin Windows?"
[09:55] <ph8> it's a 1u server i've just built, it's a copy of 64 bit ubuntu-server
[09:55] <ShoiabSafdar>  is it possible!!! I access to my other drive (NTFS) by defalt, and able to write.delete data in ubuntu 5.10
[09:55] <ph8> attached by PRI_IDE
[09:56] <paradizelost> ph8: try the amd64 desktop cd
[09:56] <MTecknology> Jack_Sparrow, sorry, I guess I'm still sleeping
[09:56] <Nightman> ubuntu: How would I go about installing the graphical interface of ubuntu to the server side? Would I need to obtain the desktop side first?
[09:56] <paradizelost> ph8: just see if you get to the desktop
[09:56] <ph8> that would involve an install right paradize?
[09:56] <ph8> which uses the same software as ubuntu server?
[09:56] <paradizelost> Nightman: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:56] <ph8> so i'll get the same error?
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ShoiabSafdar: Could you rephrase that question?
[09:56] <orbin> ShoiabSafdar: AFAIK not with 5.10, no
[09:56] <paradizelost> ph8: it would do a livecd
[09:56] <paradizelost> ph8: not a text-mode install
[09:57] <ShoiabSafdar> orbin:ok, thanks
[09:59] <orbin> Jack_Sparrow: i think he wants ntfs write capability in breezy
[09:59] <ciscosurfer> Will Edgy come preloaded with the latest Kernel?
[09:59] <lupine_85> 2.6.17
[09:59] <ciscosurfer> so yes?
[09:59] <lupine_85> I'm not up to date with what's the "latest" kernel right now
[10:00] <lupine_85> I do know that ubuntu uses a lot of old code in the kernel though
[10:00] <SpacePuppy> I wish the new distro's would hurry up and come out.. I need to ffr my box and I'm just putting it off...
[10:00] <stefg> kernel.org is your friend :-)
[10:00] <jrib> sudo apt-get install mozilla-dev
[10:00] <lupine_85> e.g. some driver modules are using code a year out of date
[10:00] <ciscosurfer> stefg: kernel.org is nice; was just wondering about Edgy though
[10:00] <recon0> I'm switching from ubuntu to xubuntu. What package should I remove to remove gnome?
[10:00] <eternalswd> I just got an external usb drive and it automounts to /media/My Book how do I get it to mount to the partition name instead, that would be /media/sdc1
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Ask in edgy Ubuntu+1
[10:01] <ciscosurfer> recon0: just install xubuntu-desktop
[10:01] <ShoiabSafdar> yes that is my question as mention orbin!
[10:01] <dustobub> Does anyone know how to just bring up eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces without giving it any address, much like just issuing ifconfig eth0 up?
[10:01] <recon0> ciscosurfer: I'm pressed for space. If I'm not using gnome, I want to uninstall it.
[10:01] <dustobub> sry for the same question again
[10:01] <Sob> Someone make mod_mono running for apache2 and .NET 2.0 ? I've apt-getted a lot of mono package, but I can't make to have the mod_mono.conf/load on mods-available :/
[10:01] <recon0> dustobub: I just use "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" and it works for me.
[10:02] <dustobub> but i need it at a reboot
[10:02] <dustobub> without having to type
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !fuse > ShoiabSafdar:
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !fuse
[10:02] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:02] <recon0> dustobub: maybe put it into your .bashrc...?
[10:02] <ciscosurfer> recon0: you can try removing ubuntu-desktop first (that will remove GNOME) then install xubuntu-desktop....
[10:02] <diffz> hi people
[10:02] <ciscosurfer> recon0: that should do it...but make sure first
[10:02] <lupine_85> erm, removing ubuntu-desktop won't remove GNOME
[10:03] <lupine_85> unless it was all done with aptitude
[10:03] <ciscosurfer> recon0: sorry for the non-descript answer
[10:03] <recon0> ciscosurfer: make sure what?
[10:03] <sorush20> my gnome desktop will not load fully how can I trouble shoot the problem?
[10:03] <ciscosurfer> lupine_85: how should recon0 remove GNOME then
[10:03] <diffz> anyone here who knows how to disable ubuntu critical cpu temp shutdown ?
[10:03] <lupine_85> with difficulty, I'd imagine
[10:03] <ShoiabSafdar> thnaks
[10:03] <lupine_85> he could tell synaptic to remove a core library and hope it sorts out all the deps automatically, but that's a nasty way to do it
[10:03] <ciscosurfer> recon0: let me look to see if GNOME came in a metapackage that you can uninstall
[10:04] <recon0> ciscosurfer: ...
[10:04] <orbin> ShoiabSafdar:  read the warnings. :)
[10:05] <ciscosurfer> recon0: have you tried to remove GNOME yet?
[10:05] <recon0> ciscosurfer: nope.
[10:05] <ciscosurfer> go to a terminal and type 'sudo aptitude remove gnome'  see what happens
[10:05] <ciscosurfer> recon0:  go to a terminal and type 'sudo aptitude remove gnome'  see what happens
[10:06] <ShoiabSafdar> ok
[10:06] <ciscosurfer> recon0: should pull all dependencies with it
[10:06] <recon0> ciscosurfer: OK, just as soon as my other apt proccess finishes.
[10:06] <ShoiabSafdar> ok, orbin
[10:06] <psycose> I don't want my kernel-image package to be upgrade anymore should i write something like this ?  Package: linux-image-386  /  Pin: version 2.6.15.24*   / Pin-Priority: 1001
[10:06] <ph8> paradizelost: i might try a network install, can i do that from the same cd?
[10:06] <recon0> ciscosurfer: btw, i remeber a program that found unused dependencies and libraries. do you happen to know the name?
[10:07] <xorl> what's the app that pops up asking for root password?
[10:07] <ciscosurfer> Jack_Sparrow: ntfs-3g is still beta but works very well, please pass that along to whomever you speaking with ;-)
[10:07] <Sob> synaptic
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> synaptic?
[10:07] <ShoiabSafdar> according to waqrnning its better to wait!!! orbin
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ciscosurfer: I am aware of that..  Still wont recommend it..
[10:07] <sorush20> my gnome desktop will not load fully how can I trouble shoot the problem?
[10:08] <cbx33> anyone know where that old watt countage thingy for you pc is?
[10:08] <ciscosurfer> Jack_Sparrow: I have used it for months now without a hitch
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[10:08] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:08] <recon0> xorl: either kdesu or gksudo, depending on your desktop.
[10:08] <ciscosurfer> recon0: Synaptic will automatically resolve dependencies (apt-get will as well with certain switches at the command line) Aptitude will resolve automatically
[10:09] <|Zephyr|> How do I purge obsolete kernel versions?
[10:09] <recon0> ciscosurfer: nothing happened.
[10:09] <ciscosurfer> Jack_Sparrow: all of my friends use it to and we love it (just back up your important data first to be sure)
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> glad it works for you.
[10:10] <ciscosurfer> Jack_Sparrow: and yes, I'd jump off the bridge if everyone else was doing it....haha
[10:10] <ciscosurfer> recon0: sorry ;-(
[10:10] <recon0> ciscosurfer: Evidently, that metapackage isn't installed.
[10:10] <recon0> ciscosurfer: what if I apt-get it then aptitude remove it?
[10:11] <diffz> hmm cpu:75 Celcius in idle mode...
[10:11] <ciscosurfer> recon0: you can try that, but I don't think you'll have any luck that way either
[10:11] <dustobub> recon0: having the command in bashrc would run it on login right, I need it before login
[10:11] <sharkybaby> hello ppl does anyone know a gd site with a power supply watt calculator so i can c what power supply i need
[10:11] <paradizelost> diffz: that's pretty damn hot
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[10:11] <diffz> paradizelost: wel its a HUGE problem
[10:11] <recon0> dustobub: Startup commands aren't my thing. Try asking the channel.
[10:11] <paradizelost> dustobub: what are you ttrying to run?
[10:11] <dustobub> how to just bring up eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces without giving it any address, much like just issuing ifconfig eth0 up?
[10:11] <diffz> paradizelost: but thats what ubuntu thinks
[10:12] <paradizelost> dustobub: you could do a user crontab - with the @reboot option at the beginning.
[10:12] <paradizelost> @reboot only runs the program on reboot
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp
[10:12] <dustobub> is there no way to do it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> sharkybaby: that was for you
[10:12] <paradizelost> dustobub: /etc/network/interfaces isn't run on boot, it's simply parsed when the networking starts up
[10:12] <jpjacobs> |Zephyr|, just remove them in synaptic or whatever youuse
[10:12] <dustobub> which is run on boot..
[10:13] <paradizelost> dustobub: the syntax, in crontab -e, is @reboot command -switches
[10:13] <|Zephyr|> oh, thanks, I'll try that
[10:13] <diffz> paradizelost: but its not the right value... and i'm looking for a solution to kill the ubuntu ACPI temp thing
[10:13] <CromagDK> how do i find my JAVA_HOME dir ?
[10:13] <paradizelost> dustobub: not just on reboot, but when you do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:13] <paradizelost> diffz: you could try doing a noacpi kernel option
[10:14] <dustobub> yeah, thats what i want, which is why I want the command in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:14] <paradizelost> CromagDK: if you type set on a terminal, it'll give you all variables
[10:14] <dustobub> just having auto eth0 doesnt work
[10:14] <paradizelost> dustobub: /etc/network/interfaces isn't a place that you put commands
[10:14] <paradizelost> dustobub: it's for configuration settings
[10:14] <CromagDK> damn, that was a s**tload of stuff..
[10:14] <lupine_85> paradizelost: look for pre-up
[10:14] <lupine_85> does the trick nicely
[10:14] <diffz> paradizelost: is there a quick way to fix that? the computer is for a school project (subversion)
[10:15] <sharkybaby> thanx Jack_Sparrow
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:15] <sharkybaby> thats just what i needed
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> sharkybaby: Just took me a minute to find it
[10:15] <|Zephyr|> meh... that was way too easy :/
[10:15] <paradizelost> diffz: if you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the noacpi option after the kernel line, and reboot, acpi should be disabled
[10:16] <diffz> paradizelost: thank you... if that works it solves a huge problem
[10:16] <asodel> how can i converse with another person using talk?
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> paradizelost: Could ne not just hit E at the grub menu and try it there first?
[10:16] <paradizelost> Jack_Sparrow: yah he could
[10:16] <dustobub> paradizelost: So there is no config option in /etc/network/interfaces that will just bring up an interface and not assign it an IP?
[10:17] <paradizelost> dustobub: you could set the static ip to 0.0.0.0
[10:17] <Nightman> ubuntu: i've installed the x11 on the server side of ubuntu, how do I get into it? i've tried startX and X, nothing works
[10:17] <dustobub> hmm, let me try that,
[10:17] <rockiah> busy chanel
[10:17] <i4get> lol
[10:18] <rockiah> the forum still down ?
[10:18] <tecta> the gnome version is 2.12? :(
[10:18] <rockiah> ubuntuforum.org
[10:18] <paradizelost> rockiah: that happens when you have over 900 people in a room
[10:18] <rockiah> lol
[10:19] <i4get> what laaaagggg?
[10:19] <unforgiven512> ok, i have a problem, all of my devices randomly stopped working last night
[10:19] <tohoyn> is there a bug in dapper with some gnome apps?
[10:19] <unforgiven512> no mouse, no eth0, no sound
[10:19] <tohoyn> e.g. gedit and cdrw writer
[10:20] <Znuff> Is there anyone more tech here that can help me install Ubuntu from a USB Pen Drive?
[10:20] <i4get> my gedit works fine
[10:20] <alan_> HEllo all. I'm here looking for help pon how to get java working on firefox in kubuntu dapper
[10:20] <paradizelost> unforgiven512: you have a power surge?
[10:20] <tohoyn> if you open the find dialog in gedit its buttons are initially coloured dark brown
[10:20] <unforgiven512> paradizelost: it's on a laptop
[10:20] <tohoyn> i4get: do you observe the same thing?
[10:20] <psycose> When with synaptic you use "Pachage => Block version", on a package where this information is stored on the system ?
[10:20] <Nightman> i've installed the x11 on the server side of ubuntu, how do I get into it? i've tried startX and X, nothing works
[10:20] <unforgiven512> paradizelost: i shut it down leaving school and when i got home, booted it up, it just died
[10:20] <justin_> alan_: Synaptic, search "Java" --- install it ;)
[10:21] <paradizelost> unforgiven512: was it in the sun?
[10:21] <paradizelost> unforgiven512: for very long?
[10:21] <unforgiven512> nope, it was in the dark in my laptop bag
[10:21] <rockiah> apt-cache search jave ?
[10:21] <alan_> That doesn't work, Justin lol
[10:21] <unforgiven512> it was 9 pm when i left
[10:21] <vdepizzol> how can I change the default font of a motif app?
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> unforgiven512: did you do any updates the last time it was working? Add any programs?
[10:21] <justin_> alan_: Sure it does, it worked for me.. hold on
 mine are the same color of the scheme my desktop theme is
[10:21] <alan_> Java is installed, working, but Firefox doesn't recognize it
[10:22] <tohoyn> Nightman: AFAIK there is some GUI program for graphically configuring X. you can give access right there.
[10:22] <unforgiven512> i built a newer version of rt2500.ko and placed it in /lib/modules/(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2500
[10:22] <unforgiven512> over the old one
[10:22] <justin_> alan_: Really?
[10:22] <paradizelost> Nightman: did you do a dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:22] <justin_> alan_: That's strange.. it should work right off the bat..
[10:22] <shuffle2> hey all, I'm wondering if anyone can compare and constrast suse 10.1's XGL implementation to ubuntu 6.06's? (I'm building a fancy linux box for a friend)
[10:22] <tohoyn> alan_: have you linked the plugin into the firefox plugin directory?
[10:23] <paradizelost> unforgiven512: are they not found, or just not functioning?
[10:23] <alan_> I know, but it doesn't, very annoying
[10:23] <justin_> shuffle2: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:23] <unforgiven512> just not functioning
[10:23] <alan_> Of course, I have a wierd ubuntu setup
[10:23] <unforgiven512> as far as i know
[10:23] <justin_> alan_: I have no clue in that case, perhaps you could search the Ubuntu forums, if you have not done so already..
[10:23] <paradizelost> unforgiven512: do you have a livecd you could boot to to see if they work there?
[10:23] <shuffle2> so no one here uses xgl.....i see.....
[10:23] <burritoortega> i can't run amsn, i get this error message: Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
[10:23] <unforgiven512> also, all of those devices still work on my winxp partition
[10:23] <alan_> tohoyn: Say what? lol
[10:23] <paradizelost> shuffle2: try #ubuntu-xgl
[10:23] <unforgiven512> i can boot my ubuntu livecd
[10:23] <Timmynub> Heh, anyone got a sec for a non-xgl/compiz problem?
[10:23] <purple> hi all
[10:24] <purple> cansomebody paste mi a link to repository of latest kde 3.5.4 to install it on dapper?
[10:24] <paradizelost> unforgiven512: then something you did broke it;)
[10:24] <unforgiven512> yeah but what
[10:24] <ptley> hello.  I am using kubuntu dapper and I can't get a certain cheap digital camera (samsung digimax 4010) to connect as a usb device.  I have usbdevfs usb-storage and usbcore modules all loaded.
[10:24] <paradizelost> purple - i usually just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <tohoyn> If you install Sun J2SDK you have to make a symlink in the firefox plugin directory pointing to a correct shared library in the SDK
[10:24] <asodel> how do i see the host of a computer?
[10:24] <unforgiven512> for some reason i find debian easier :/
[10:24] <paradizelost> asodel: what you mean the host?
[10:24] <ljlolel> so, i upgraded dapper and it says i have a nvidia problem, the kernel version is1.0-8178  but the xorg version is 1.0-8774, what versions do you guys have?
[10:24] <purple> @paradizelost: it installs only 3.5.2!!!
[10:24] <Nightman> Not real familar with linux , so haven't tried anything yet. Just id a sudo aptitude to install it
[10:24] <xororand> hi
[10:24] <alan_> What is this about linking the plugin?
[10:25] <paradizelost> purple: then that's the latest version on dapper
[10:25] <paradizelost> :P
[10:25] <asodel> paradizelost: like user@ubuntu
[10:25] <burritoortega> i can't run amsn, i get this error message: Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"... what can i do?
[10:25] <tohoyn> alan_: do you have Sun J2SDK or J2SE?
[10:25] <burritoortega> asodel: start a terminal
[10:25] <purple> @paradizelost: i installed 3.5.4 fewdays ago but i lost link of repo
[10:25] <burritoortega> asodel: then you'll see user@ubuntu
[10:25] <alan_> J2SE
[10:25] <paradizelost> asodel: just type hostname
[10:25] <paradizelost> on a terminal
[10:26] <MTecknology> I am running Ubuntu live. I am trying to edit an ext3 partition containing /boot. When I try to open the partition in gksudo nautilus, it has errors trying to mount.
[10:26] <asodel> ok
[10:26] <tohoyn> alan_: I have the following:lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   57 2006-08-01 10:25 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /opt/jdk1.5.0_07/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[10:26] <tohoyn> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8652 2006-07-31 18:55 libunixprintplugin.so
[10:26] <tohoyn> tohoyn@tohoyn-linux:~$
[10:26] <paradizelost> MTecknology: did you mount the partition yet?
[10:26] <tohoyn> sorry a bit extra flooding
[10:26] <asif1> Hi to all
[10:26] <alan_> Ok, I'll give that a shot
[10:26] <asif1> i am new to ubuntu
[10:26] <paradizelost> !ask
[10:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:26] <xororand> i have question regarding building kernel modules on ubuntu. my custom built kernel is in /usr/src/linux/ and i want to build some kernel module like shfs against it. is there a way to use the ubuntu package management for that? something like emerge $kernelpackage does on gentoo. it would be compiled against the kernel and all installed files are handled by the package manager.
[10:27] <xororand> is this possible on ubuntu?
[10:27] <MTecknology> paradizelost, good point, i'll see if i remember how to do that :)
[10:27] <asif1> want to install matlab in ubuntu please help
[10:27] <tohoyn> asif1: have you considered Octave?
[10:27] <vicscandl> linux version of pcanywhere?
[10:27] <burritoortega> i can't run amsn, i get this error message: Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
[10:27] <knapper> Hey, does anyone here use the USP (Ubuntu System Panel)?
[10:27] <paradizelost> vicscandl: vncserver
[10:27] <asif1> yes
[10:28] <vicscandl> paradizelost: i need actual pcanywhere support, not just vnc
[10:28] <asif1> but is there anyway to install matlab
[10:28] <paradizelost> vicscandl: y?
[10:28] <vicscandl> paradizelost: because clients are dumbasses?
[10:28] <rockiah> TT
[10:28] <vicscandl> paradizelost: clients being the people who pay me.
[10:28] <paradizelost> vicscandl: i'd check with symmantec, they make pc anywhere now
[10:28] <paradizelost> vicscandl: if they don't have it, no one does:P
[10:28] <tohoyn> does anyone have strange behaviour in the find dialog of gedit? I get the buttons initially coloured dark brown. when I move mouse over the buttons the close button gets normal but the find button does not.
[10:29] <vicscandl> paradizelost: thanks
[10:29] <ptley> asif1 - I use scilab mostly, but you can use matlab -nojvm if you just want to cut and paste matlab histories and such
[10:29] <asif1> ok what about mp3 player and real player
[10:30] <asif1> because default player is not workingg
[10:30] <rockiah> you want to play mp3
[10:30] <ptley> asif1 - the biggest problem with matlab on any linux platform is the GUI you out and ruins your night
[10:30] <asif1> yes
[10:30] <rockiah> lol that has something to do with licenses
[10:30] <vdepizzol> how can I change the default font of a motif app (teamspeak2)?
[10:30] <paradizelost> asif1: i'd use VLC
[10:30] <alan_> tohoyn: What folder should it be linking INTO
[10:30] <psycose> When with synaptic you use "Pachage => Block version", on a package where this information is stored on the system ?
[10:30] <stargal> Hello!!
[10:30] <tohoyn> alan_: do you mean where to create the link?
[10:31] <paradizelost> psycose: try man synaptic
[10:31] <alan_> tohoyn: Yes
[10:31] <psycose> thanks
[10:31] <ptley> asif1 - you can get the official version of realplayer from real.com... people still make content for that?
[10:31] <alan_> tohoyn: Subfolder of Firefox... I have no plugin folder in there
[10:31] <tohoyn> do you have the folder /usr/lib/firefox/plugins? if it exists then there
[10:31] <tohoyn> if it does not I don't know
[10:31] <Shogran> I need assistance
[10:32] <kidko> My computer seems to be slow for some reason when dealing with OpenGL gaming. I've got a 2.4ghz processor, and don't get why this is happening... Does anybody else get this?
[10:32] <paradizelost> !ask
[10:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:32] <asif1> also have some problem in accessing administrative  options in system ,root login is not allowed in x window
[10:32] <paradizelost> kidko: your graphics card probably
[10:32] <Shogran> I need help setting up a tv view with s-video
[10:32] <paradizelost> kidko: is it an Intel graphics?
[10:32] <kidko> nvidia, I believe
[10:32] <paradizelost> kidko: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[10:33] <Duski> can someone give me advice how to solve dualhead & ati? (tried many how-to pages but nothing worked for me) - my situation: one card, 2 monitors, fglrx & xgl
[10:33] <Duski> current status: one screen is working (primary device), 2nd screen is blank (i can move there the mouse cursor but no windows...) plz plz help ...
[10:33] <paradizelost> !nvidia
[10:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:33] <tohoyn> what are the best graphics cards to use with Linux?
[10:33] <ptley> Shogran: it'd help if we knew more details such as what kind of card/box/thing you are using to hook to s-video
[10:33] <kidko> would that happen automatically at installation time? If not than no.
[10:33] <JoaoJoao> not ATI
[10:33] <paradizelost> Duski: good luck, i've tried to get that working, and no luck.
[10:33] <paradizelost> Duski: i had the exact same issue.
[10:33] <paradizelost> kidko: no, it doesn't happen automatically
[10:33] <kidko> ok. I'll try that, then. Thanks for the help
[10:34] <Shogran> I have an nvidia with svideo output .. it worked great with my Xp ..
[10:34] <Duski> when i enable xinerama x just screews the screens
[10:34] <baikonur> how can I add ~/bin to PATH automatically? it seems that gdm does not read ~/.bash_profile or ~/.xsession
[10:34] <rockiah> lol paradize do you get paid for this support ?
[10:34] <paradizelost> Duski: and i'd bet if you try to span rather than do dual-head, you'd get crashes
[10:34] <reitzell> I've been trying to get mythtv going for the last few days. Something I did broke my sound output- no sound. Any idea on what I should do to try and recover?
[10:34] <ptley> Shogran: what model nvidia
[10:34] <paradizelost> Duski: ATM, dual-screen on ati isn't easy to get working
[10:34] <tohoyn> Shogran: does it have good acceleration properties that Linux can use?
[10:34] <Shogran> .. not sure really
[10:34] <asif1> where can i download vlc for ubuntu
[10:34] <jrib> !info vlc
[10:34] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[10:34] <paradizelost> Duski: #ubuntu-xgl is a better room for that anyays
[10:35] <jrib> asif1: enable the universe repository and install it using synaptic
[10:35] <paradizelost> asif1: sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:35] <Sob> !info libapache2-mod-mono
[10:35] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-mono: Run ASP.NET Pages on UNIX with Apache 2 and Mono. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.10-1 (dapper), package size 28 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:35] <Shogran> geforce 4 mx 440
[10:35] <Duski> paradizelost: i tried there but nobody is responding
[10:35] <paradizelost> Duski: well, i was working with dbo and quinnstorm and had no luck
[10:35] <Shogran> thats my card..
[10:36] <Duski> paradizelost: what about your situation ?
[10:36] <paradizelost> Duski: i gave up.
[10:36] <Duski> paradizelost: noooo!
[10:36] <Duski> :)
[10:36] <paradizelost> Duski: it was the EXACT issue you are having
[10:36] <alan_> tohoyn: Got it, thanks!
[10:37] <Duski> paradizelost: have you analyzed the logs ?
[10:37] <paradizelost> Duski: it seems that it's starting an Xgl on the main monitor, and an X server on the secondary
[10:37] <alan_> My thanks go Tohoyn, Justin and others for help getting firefox and java to talk to each other. See you all, be well.
[10:37] <CromagDK> !news
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <CromagDK> !newsreader
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <paradizelost> Duski: now, you could try doing a #   gnome-session --display :1.1
[10:38] <erUSUL> !info pan
[10:38] <paradizelost> Duski: that might start a useable gnome-session on the right, but it'll be standard X
[10:38] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[10:38] <tohoyn> how can I create a killfile in thunderbird news reader?
[10:38] <tohoyn> or in pan
[10:38] <Shogran> im just going to install all the nvidia drivers synaptic pack will let me..
[10:39] <ptley> Shogran: you need to edit your xorg.conf file for your card
[10:39] <tbaur> yo
[10:39] <Shogran> oh... how do i.. do that?
[10:39] <tbaur> ok
[10:39] <optimusprime> I want to install Firefox2.0 Beta 2.....will that replace my current Firefox version?
[10:39] <Shogran> im sure it will optimus
[10:40] <Shogran> but you can usually get your old on back if you dont like it
[10:40] <lupine_85> optimusprime: not by defauly
[10:40] <lupine_85> default*
[10:40] <Gargoyle> Has anyone got any recommendations for server side spam/virus filtering (postfix)?
[10:40] <lupine_85> it just creates it's own firefox-2.(whatever) folder wherever you extract it
[10:40] <skypa> spamassassin @ Gargoyle
[10:40] <tohoyn> gargoyle: clamav?
[10:40] <sharkybaby> does anyone know a gd place to get gd cheapy water cooling systems????
[10:40] <optimusprime> ok....
[10:40] <skypa> anyone an idea on how to mount a fuse fs async?
[10:41] <Shogran> find a snowball in hell sharky,, they sell them right beside it
[10:41] <rockiah> sleep
[10:41] <Gargoyle> is MailScanner and spamassasin the same thing?
[10:41] <ptley> Shogran: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf;  in the section where it says Device and Nvidia, you need Driver "nvidia", Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M", and Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
[10:41] <Shogran> ok
[10:41] <sorush20> is there an online digital radio player? any websites out there that stream digital radio into the internet?
[10:42] <sokol11> hi
[10:42] <ptley> Shogran: the rest of the information in that section is probably correct.
[10:42] <sokol11> i have a problem
[10:42] <sokol11> I have a install problem. Im trying to install Ubuntu on AMD64x2 platform and the initialisation stops at something like PCStyle irq 7 [PCSPP,EPP]  what is that for and why it stops there? COmputer stays responsive but the installation doesn't go on. Anyone noticesd something similar? I have 3 sata drives no ATA drive, ati X600 Radeon and 2x512MB DDR2 PC677 Kingston RAM.
[10:42] <vicscandl> sokol11: use the limitied graphics mode boot from the install cd
[10:42] <sokol11> tried that same problem
[10:42] <Shogran> ok
[10:43] <Shogran> thank you
[10:43] <vicscandl> sokol11: i'm out of suggestions. ;)
[10:43] <sokol11> any option i try it allways stops at the same thing
[10:43] <Shogran> i have a blank gpu nano
[10:43] <vicscandl> sokol11: how are the drives setup?
[10:43] <sokol11> no error but just doesnt go on
[10:43] <sokol11> 3 drives on SATA
[10:43] <vicscandl> sokol11: raid, normal?
[10:44] <sokol11> normal
[10:44] <ptley> Shogran: your screen is blank now?
[10:44] <vicscandl> sokol11: i'm once again, out of suggestions.. ;)
[10:44] <sokol11> damn
[10:44] <sokol11> :)
[10:44] <Shogran> no.. uhmm .. how do i get around in GNUY nano.. i cant find nvidia
[10:44] <sokol11> wanted to give ubuntu a try but cant
[10:44] <sokol11> oh well
[10:44] <ptley> Shogran: ctrl-W to search, ctrl-O to save, ctrl-X to exit
[10:45] <Shogran> so how do i find nvidia then?
[10:45] <Gargoyle> Any comments/suggestions between mailscanner+clam and amavis+clam?
[10:45] <sharkybaby> thanx shogran but were abouts is hell ;)
[10:45] <ljlolel> my kernel version of nvidia drivers is 1.0-8178, but the x.org version is 1.08774, and tahts the error i get when X doesn't start
[10:45] <ljlolel> what version do you have?
[10:45] <cbx33> sharkybaby, just visit the Microsoft campus, it's right next door
[10:46] <sharkybaby> yeh i know that lol
[10:46] <Gamkeiller> you know i having a problem getting the nvidia drivers back on after a kernel upgrade
[10:46] <ptley> Shogran: do you have xorg.conf open?
[10:46] <MTecknology> Why is it so dangerous to edit NTFS from Linux?
[10:46] <Shogran> yeah
[10:47] <CromagDK> MTecknology: i guess its the two different filesystems
[10:47] <sharkybaby> mind u im suprized hell hasnt radid them yet
[10:47] <nathansnook> Xsane lock my system up can any one help
[10:47] <cbx33> sharkybaby, they have...an undersstanding ;)
[10:47] <MTecknology> CromagDK, so that's all there is to it?
[10:48] <Cyber> SkyCyber
[10:48] <Gamkeiller> what package should i reinstall to make the nvidia driver work with a new kernel
[10:48] <CromagDK> MTecknology: well, can you communicate with a japanese dude in native language ? :)
[10:48] <Gamkeiller> had to swtich my xorg.conf from nvidia to nv for now to make it work
[10:49] <MTecknology> CromagDK, I get it now, thanks
[10:49] <CromagDK> np :)
[10:49] <ljlolel> Gamkeiller, me too
[10:49] <ljlolel> Gamkeiller, same problem
[10:49] <ljlolel> do you get an error about incompatible versions?
[10:49] <Gamkeiller> it worked fine with package 386 kernel
[10:49] <ljlolel> hm, i guess i will switch back to 386 kernel
[10:49] <Gamkeiller> jsut not now with the 686
[10:50] <Shogran> itsays its a new file
[10:50] <ljlolel> or k7
[10:50] <CameronBergh> the 686 kernel is BAD!
[10:50] <Gamkeiller> it is
[10:50] <ljlolel> y?
[10:50] <CameronBergh> well
[10:50] <CameronBergh> it has SMP enabled on all versions of it
[10:50] <CameronBergh> even the non SMP version
[10:50] <reitzell> I messed up my sound trying to get mythtv going. Any idea on what I can try to get it back?
[10:50] <ljlolel> well thats okay
[10:50] <CameronBergh> which causes my pentium M to run hella slow on it
[10:50] <ljlolel> that sucks
[10:51] <Gamkeiller> yah it find with mine
[10:51] <Gamkeiller> i just can not et nvidia to work
[10:51] <Flamekebab> anyone got a link to a simple guide to making deb packages?
[10:51] <CameronBergh> 386 kernel is like 4 times faster than 686 on my centrino
[10:51] <ljlolel> lol
[10:51] <Gamkeiller> well i have old school p4 1.6 and it fine
[10:51] <ptley> MTecknology: there are a few ntfs drivers for linux, one does it the way wine does, another is commercial from paragon, and yet another is linux-ntfs.org... you can write to an ntfs drive without error, it really depends what you are trying to do.
[10:52] <MTecknology> ok, i'm not trying to, i was just curious
[10:52] <Gamkeiller> i know as a fact you need to reinstall the nvidia driver with a new kernel
[10:52] <ptley> MTecknology: I am not an expert on this, but I have hosed ntfs partitions trying to change the administrator password and others I have done without a hitch.
[10:52] <ChunkyQ_> i can't seem to set my screen resolution to higher than 1024x768. i just switched from openSUSE, and i knew how to do this with sax2, but i can't find it in ubuntu. could any help?
[10:52] <Gamkeiller> did that a lot with gentoo when i was using it
[10:52] <ljlolel> Gamkeiller, then it works?
[10:52] <Flamekebab> anyone got a link to a simple guide to making deb packages?
[10:53] <Gamkeiller> well back in gentoo days you just need to recompile in the kernel module
[10:53] <Gamkeiller> for nvidia
[10:53] <Gamkeiller> but not sure for ubuntu
[10:53] <ptley> MTecknology: although I have found the only uses for the ntfs stuff I have needed are to resize ntfs partitions to make room for linux which has never failed (thank you ups) and to switch up the administrator password on a "locked" machine
[10:53] <Gamkeiller> i already went to synaptic and market both nvidia package for reinstall
[10:54] <Gamkeiller> but still got same error when i startx
[10:55] <i4get> !deb
[10:55] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[10:55] <i4get> hmm
[10:55] <covOPprometheus> could anyone tell me where to search for the problem, if a cdrom-drive only reads cd's some few times?
[10:56] <MTecknology> ptley, so... how do you edit the admin password??
[10:56] <RetLaw> Hi folks, a while I noticed that there was 6.06 DVD for download, but now I can't locate it anymore. Has the DVD been abandonned ? Or anyone knows where I can find it ?
[10:56] <wiking_> I have install 3dDesktop, but how to use it?
[10:56] <MFree> Hi. I've just installed ubuntu 6.06 and my sound doesn't work except in AmaroK where it plays very slowly and skips often. I've tried using system->preferences->sound to change the sound card, but no luck. Any suggestions?
[10:56] <covOPprometheus> wiking_, typen in terminal '3ddesk'
[10:56] <i4get> wiking goto shell and type 3ddesk i think
[10:57] <covOPprometheus> wiking_, you will like to configure shortkeys for that command
[10:57] <i4get> but 3ddesk is a huge resource burden...lol
[10:57] <Gamkeiller> you have to frist need to sudo 3ddeskd
[10:57] <Gamkeiller> then run 3ddesk
[10:58] <Gamkeiller> and yes it take a ton of ram
[10:58] <Gamkeiller> but also need to have your 3d driver install for your video card
[10:58] <i4get> yes
[10:58] <Gamkeiller> hens the need for my nvidia drivers
[10:58] <wiking_> covOPprometheus, how to configure shortkey for it?
[10:59] <Gamkeiller> wiking_: that a pain and i have yet to figure that one out
[10:59] <i4get> lol
[10:59] <Gamkeiller> i just ended up makeing a launch panel icon
[10:59] <Gamkeiller> metacity not been nice to me
[10:59] <Novatillo> hola, como entro al espaol?
[10:59] <IceGuest_5> hello
[10:59] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[10:59] <CromagDK> !es
[10:59] <MFree> how do I tell what sound card I have in ubuntu? I have no idea what card is in the machine.
[10:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:00] <IceGuest_5> I have a Mac
[11:00] <IceGuest_5> I installed ubuntu
[11:00] <IceGuest_5> and now
[11:00] <IceGuest_5> I have a problem with bonobo
[11:00] <Novatillo> join #ubuntu-es
[11:00] <IceGuest_5> and the time is set to 1904
[11:00] <Novatillo> como hago para entrar?
[11:00] <cpk2> MFree: I think lspci will tell you what peripherals you have
[11:00] <covOPprometheus> wiking_, apt-get install xbindkeys
 are you using gnome?
[11:01] <covOPprometheus> wiking_, and then xbindkeys config
[11:01] <wiking_> i4get, yes
[11:01] <cpk2> Novatillo: escribir "/join #ubuntu-es"
[11:01] <IceGuest_5> after i login I recieve an error
[11:01] <covOPprometheus> wiking_, to see what commands to use check man 3ddesk
[11:01] <Gamkeiller> you beet me to is ice
[11:01] <ptley> MTecknology: there are several different ways.  easiest is to boot from a livecd that will overwrite the windows password.  Another is to use ophcrack 2 livecd if you want to check if your passwords are too weak.  There are even more ways.
[11:01] <Gamkeiller> sin lose ""
 if so go to system preference keyboard shortcuts and read the bottom
[11:01] <cyberfrs> is it possible to add multiple virtual hosts on 1 ip address in the apache's ssl.conf file?
[11:02] <MTecknology> ptley, thanks i guess i remember hearing of some now
[11:02] <covOPprometheus> wiking_, sorry, 'xbindkeys-config'
[11:03] <ptley> MTecknology: ophcrack 2 is nice to use on windows servers so you can advise people that their passwords are garbage... I am surprised how bad passwords are sometimes.
[11:03] <CromagDK> l0phtcrack ?
[11:03] <lupine_85> cyberfrs: no
[11:03] <lupine_85> SSL requires multiple IP addresses
[11:04] <lupine_85> then you can have multiple SSL IP-based virtual hosts
[11:04] <vdepizzol> my OpenOffice.org crashes every time
[11:04] <lupine_85> ask your ISP for more IP addresses :)
[11:04] <RetLaw> Hi folks, I can't find anymore the 6.06 DVD which was available for download some time ago. Any ideas where ?
[11:04] <lupine_85> RetLaw: use the 6.06.1 DVD instead
[11:04] <cyberfrs> lupine_85: thanx
[11:04] <lupine_85> www.ubuntu.com and follow the links
[11:05] <Andrew67> there's a DVD? :o
[11:05] <lupine_85> np
[11:05] <lupine_85> Andrew67: yeah, but the ending is too formulaic for my tastes :(
[11:05] <RetLaw> I tried ubuntu.com, but don't see it anymore. Or am i overlooking something
[11:05] <cpk2> looks like the first google result of "ubuntu dvd" has dvd images
[11:05] <reitzell> I messed up my sound trying to get mythtv going. Any idea on what I can try to get it back? being a newbie the only thing I can think of is rebuild my box.
[11:06] <hn> buenas
[11:06] <lupine_85> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/6.06/release/
[11:06] <hn> tengo un serio problema
[11:06] <lupine_85> the "Download" link is only right on the front page :)
[11:06] <hn> intentando cambiar /home a otra particion /dev/hda4
[11:06] <synjet> hn: #ubuntu-es
[11:06] <Andrew67> hn: #ubuntu-es
[11:06] <lupine_85> hn: espanol? #ubuntu-es
[11:06] <synjet> hn: si
[11:06] <hn> hello
[11:07] <Andrew67> whoah, he's n=root@host, thats not good
[11:07] <lupine_85> hehe
[11:07] <Oxtain> Hi everyone!
[11:08] <hn> i was trying to change /home to /dev/hda4 and I cannot run my user because Ubuntu says I have no home folder and if i want to start with / as home folder
[11:08] <Oxtain> I have a question that really needs to be answered!!!
[11:08] <Flamekebab> wewt! I managed to not only compile Kino 0.9.2, but I created a deb package too!
[11:08] <RetLaw> lupine_85: thnaks, on the regular download-sites it doesn't seem to be available anymore. The one you gave, is that the 6.06.1 ?
[11:08] <spiderworm> hi all, isnt the reiserfs superblock supposed to be the first block in the partition?
[11:08] <Andrew67> hn: whatever you had in /home must be moved to the hda4
[11:08] <Andrew67> otherwise /home would be empty!
[11:08] <lupine_85> RetLaw: that *is* the regular download site
[11:09] <psycose> if i've blocked the package linux-image-386 to the current version (using synaptic) .  does all packages that depend on that kernel version will also be blobked ? let's say kernel-header and so on ... ?
[11:09] <synjet> RetLaw: in the dload page, see the bottom for dvd links
[11:09] <Dace> Oxtain: but if you don't ask it, it can't be answered, can it?
[11:09] <Oxtain> Any of know where can i get the ubuntu's kernel source code....
[11:09] <x_ghost> hiiiiiiii
[11:10] <x_ghost> hiii all
[11:10] <psycose> Oxtain, apt-get source
[11:10] <lupine_85> Oxtain: linux-source
[11:10] <x_ghost> iam so happey t be here
[11:10] <lupine_85> !linux-source
[11:10] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:10] <Oxtain> I'm trying to install nvidia video drivers...
[11:10] <lupine_85> in that case, you want linux-headers
[11:10] <lupine_85> !linux-headers
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <lupine_85> !linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[11:10] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386: Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 836 kB, installed size 22988 kB
[11:10] <x_ghost> aNy one here is arabic
[11:10] <IceGuest_5> anyone did linux on mac
[11:10] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` works well
[11:11] <hn> I explains I did: i wrote in fstab a line /dev/hda4 /home ....
[11:11] <RetLaw> lupine_85: ok, I tried the mirrors on the download-page. In the meanwhile I found the 6.06.1. Thanks for helping
[11:11] <lupine_85> np
[11:11] <hn> and now i have read i have to start with my user and write move /home.old /home
[11:12] <Oxtain> Thanks!!!
[11:12] <x_ghost> i need some help
[11:12] <Oxtain> c'ya later then!
[11:12] <hn> home.old is a backup
[11:12] <hn> but now i cannot enter to my session
[11:12] <x_ghost> how icaN Setup proGRAM WITH oUT INTErnEt conection
[11:13] <RetLaw> synjet: thanks, stupid me, I overlooked the sperate DVD-links !!
[11:13] <synjet> RetLaw: np
[11:13] <hn> do you can help me??
[11:13] <covOPprometheus> wiking_, managed to do it?
[11:15] <lost_> I'll reinstall my ubuntu from my dvd, but i want to have kde too, may i use the kbuntu repositories for install kde 3.5.4 or i must install the kde 3.5.2 from ubuntu repositories
[11:15] <wiking_> covOPprometheus, i made something better!
[11:15] <MetaMorfoziS> !lmsensors
[11:15] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[11:16] <tuxar> lost_, you can use only de kubuntu repositories to install kde 3.5.4
[11:16] <wiking_> covOPprometheus, custom application on panel  next to workspaces. It's more better!
[11:16] <Acidic32> ubotu, wine
[11:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:17] <sethk> lost_, everything is available in the ubuntu repositories
[11:17] <sethk> lost_, you aren't missing any packages (or potential packages) that you would see had you installed kubuntu
[11:17] <Mau> gaim "guification" plugin really doesnt work in gaim 2.0?
[11:17] <sethk> lost_, so the question is academic
[11:18] <wiking_> covOPprometheus, custom application on panel  next to workspaces. It's more better!
[11:18] <sethk> wiking_, more better?
[11:19] <sethk> wiking_, that aint' good english
[11:20] <owen__> how do you show hidden files in a folder?
[11:21] <Trackilizer> I just connected my ipod nano into kubuntu and now i have an ipod icon on my desktop, however how do i put songs onto it and remove them again? i'm looking for something like itunes for kubuntu.
[11:21] <cpk2> owen__: ls -a will list everything
[11:21] <owen__> in the GUI window though?
[11:21] <cpk2> oh just look for it in the pull down menus i'm sure
[11:21] <wiking_> sethk, i am not from england and just try say something, what you can understand. of course i have problems with english!
[11:21] <owen__> i know there is a hot key
[11:22] <owen__> like shift ctrl s
[11:22] <wtroche> how do I install Flash in my browser?
[11:22] <sethk> wiking_, I wasn't being serious.  "ain't" isn't good english either  :)
[11:22] <osfameron> ain't it?
[11:22] <lupine_85> t'is
[11:22] <sethk> osfameron, nah, it ain't
[11:22] <lupine_85> Eeen Yaaarkshire, 'tis
[11:23] <sethk> youse guys ought to know that
[11:23] <lupine_85> erm, ignore the bad yorkshire accent :)
[11:23] <spiderworm> wtf u r all cr8zy
[11:23] <lupine_85> lololololololol
[11:24] <lupine_85> j00 sux0rz
[11:24] <synjet> wtroche: flash for firefox? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:24] <wiking_> sethk, whatewer!
[11:25] <wtroche> synjet, I appreciate that :) thanks
[11:25] <linopil> wow ubuntu wil soon hit the 1000 ppl !!! wow
[11:25] <synjet> wtroche: refer to ubuntuguide.org for all customization
[11:26] <wtroche> will do
[11:26] <sethk> linopil, no wonder, I'm logged in 950 times
[11:26] <linopil> time to split ubuntu to several subjects aint it OPs ?
[11:26] <linopil> yeah yeah sethk BS
[11:26] <sethk> linopil, I've asked that a few times.  The answer was that it isn't constantly this busy
[11:27] <Knorrie> or kick all users idling for more than a week ;P
[11:27] <sethk> linopil, which is true, but it's getting hard to even follow a conversation
[11:27] <SpComb> I don't idle!
[11:27] <linopil> I just expect it to be more useful and efficient now ti is flooded
[11:27] <linopil> right
[11:27] <Knorrie> when ignoring joins/parts the channel gets a lot more quiet
[11:27] <owen__> can you not copy the contents of a hidden folder into a folder that is not hidden using sudo cp .nameoffolder/something nothiddenfolder ?
[11:28] <linopil> so who are the OPs raise the glove
[11:28] <sethk> linopil, I agree, it is getting to that point, although I'm not sure exactly where to split.
[11:28] <DBO> linopil, whats wrong?
[11:28] <sethk> linopil, by splitting, you reduce the chances of any one question being answered
[11:28] <linopil> Dbo are you an OP?
[11:28] <DBO> yes
[11:28] <SpComb> linopil: do !ops and see! (note: do not bolindly do all things that random people tell you to)
[11:28] <linopil> well please hear a proposition
[11:29] <optimusprime> how can I extract .rar files?
[11:29] <Lard-O-Lad> is there something like getright for ubuntu?
[11:29] <Lard-O-Lad> !rar
[11:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:29] <linopil> can ubuntu be split to several say 2 -3 useful distinct topics?
[11:29] <krazykit> Lard-O-Lad: wget ;-)
[11:29] <Lard-O-Lad> can wget download from several sources?
[11:29] <DBO> linopil, there are MANY distinct channels actually
[11:29] <linopil> ubuntu is by far the champion of freenode
[11:30] <linopil> but not easy to follow
[11:30] <linopil> can you advertise other channels on topic?
[11:30] <sethk> DBO, I think he means splitting the general support channel.  Although your answer applies in part to that as well
[11:30] <Knorrie> hm testing my ignore-list, can somebody give me a hilight
[11:31] <owen__> What is the hot key or shortcut to show hidden files in the GUI file browser window?
[11:31] <DBO> sethk, linopil all that will happen is everyone will use one channel anyhow
[11:31] <Lard-O-Lad> Ctrl-H
[11:31] <Gamkeiller> have any of you use rsync to sync file from ftp server to a desktop
[11:31] <owen__> thank you
[11:31] <sethk> DBO, that's probably true, yes
[11:31] <Gamkeiller> so to keep current versions uptodate
[11:31] <linopil> split can be indicated on topic
[11:31] <linopil> sorry to repeat myself
[11:32] <Lard-O-Lad> #ubuntu needs an overflow, esp. at peak hours
[11:32] <DBO> bring it up at the next CC meeting =)
[11:33] <blithe> stick
[11:33] <juelz> hi everybody
[11:33] <Lard-O-Lad> so, nothing like getright for linux, this saddens me
[11:33] <vdepizzol> my OpenOffice.org crashes every time, is it normal? :|
[11:33] <juelz> somebody can do me a favor ^
[11:33] <juelz> ?
[11:34] <juelz> I need the new amsn for linux ubuntu
[11:34] <linopil> speak up juelz
[11:34] <juelz> if somebody have it juste send it to me :P
[11:34] <linopil> you mean Im messenger?
[11:34] <synjet> vdepizzol: are the files very large? I have had crashes trying to open large files
[11:34] <krazykit> juelz: build it yourself ;-P
[11:34] <Lard-O-Lad> juelz: gaim?
[11:34] <juelz> im new in linux
[11:35] <juelz> thats whyy
[11:35] <juelz> lol
[11:35] <vdepizzol> synjet, my OpenOffice.org crashes even with blank documents :|
[11:35] <linopil> juelz  alt f2 hit gaim configure msn account go !
[11:35] <Neo8750> juelz: gaim does msn
[11:35] <infidel> is there anyone here that can give me a hand setting up my network printer?
[11:35] <juelz> i just need the new evrsion
[11:36] <Flamekebab> why the hell can't I find "linux-libc-dev"
[11:36] <juelz> not an accont
[11:36] <Neo8750> juelz: no
[11:36] <Neo8750> he is telling you to configure gaim to use your msn account
[11:36] <linopil> don't be naive juelz
[11:36] <juelz> ah ok
[11:36] <juelz> kinopill
[11:36] <linopil> microsoft hate to do anything for open source community
[11:36] <devin_> what program can i use to copy music from my ipod to my home computer? i lost all my music when i installed ubuntu, but i love ubuntu... is there any way for me to do this in linux?
[11:36] <Caplain_> what software do i use to burn an iso to a cd?
[11:36] <juelz> im not naive i just know nothing abvotu linux
[11:37] <BoukenPink> Hey all... Hoping someone in here will know where to point me... Whenever I try to install Dapper, it just freezes at the point where it says it's "setting up the clock" or something.... I have no idea what to do.
[11:37] <linopil> linux is open source
[11:37] <Lard-O-Lad> is there a shortcut key to access the Applications Menu? (like the Windows key in windows?)
[11:37] <krazykit> Lard-O-Lad: the windows key should open it, actually
[11:37] <linopil> windows is proprietary
[11:37] <Caplain_> Lard-O-Lad: i think its alt f1
[11:37] <synjet> BoukenPink: try another CD, sometimes it does crash
[11:37] <linopil> main difference
[11:37] <Lard-O-Lad> Caplain_: right click the iso, click write to cd
[11:37] <krazykit> Caplain_: i think you can just right-click and burn it that way, or, what i prefer, k3b
[11:38] <Caplain_> the windows key doesnt work for me
[11:38] <Caplain_> krazykit: lol ill try that....its crazy but it jus tmight work!
[11:38] <Lard-O-Lad> Caplain_: thanks, Alt-F1 is a good combo, easy to remember
[11:39] <Caplain_> krazykit: hey, thanks :)
[11:39] <Neo8750> what would cause a system not to show anything other then a blinking courser at boot up
[11:39] <krazykit> Neo8750: lots of stuff.
[11:40] <Caplain_> Neo8750: at what part of startup?
[11:40] <Neo8750> well i get nothing
[11:40] <Neo8750> i get grub it boots kernel and then its blank till x loads
[11:41] <Neo8750> well till login prompt then x loads
[11:41] <Neo8750> Caplain_: basicly none of the init.d stuff output there status
[11:42] <synjet> Neo8750: did you edit your xorg.conf?
[11:42] <cparker> Hi, can I have Synaptic use only Source repositories? I unchecked the BInary repositories, leaving only the Source ones checked, and now the only packages that show up are the ones I already have installed.
[11:42] <Neo8750> yes but how would that effect the boot process (when usplash would be loading)
[11:43] <BoukenPink> Oh, no. I killed the channel >_>
[11:43] <Neo8750> synjet: yes but how would that effect the boot process (when usplash would be loading)
[11:43] <Flamekebab> holy crap..
[11:44] <Flamekebab> I might finally have got all the dependencies
[11:44] <xorl> lol
[11:44] <Caplain_> Neo8750: did you make any system changes?
[11:44] <krazykit> cparker: um.  that's because that's where apt downloads the source, not the actual packages.  why did you do that, anyway?
[11:44] <Crippy-Boy> Dependencies are fun :D
[11:44] <iliketoprogram> hiya!  is it possible for me to use xwindows on a remote server if i can ssh into it?
[11:44] <iliketoprogram> like a remote desktop type thing?
[11:44] <Neo8750> Caplain_: it happened a while ago i think after a system update
[11:44] <xorl> iliketoprogram: xforwarding possibly
[11:44] <xorl> :|
[11:44] <krazykit> iliketoprogram: yeah, there's x11vnc and xforwarding
[11:44] <Neo8750> wanna say console-something had to do with it
[11:44] <cparker> krazykit: Because I'd prefer having the packages compiled as I install them specifically for my CPU.
[11:44] <xorl> if you have SSH you can get xdmp (can't remember the full thing) to allow remote logins
[11:44] <iliketoprogram> xorl, krazykit : thank you!
[11:45] <xorl> :)
[11:45] <krazykit> cparker: then maybe you should look at using gentoo.
[11:45] <cparker> krazykit: that's not a very good answer.
[11:45] <krazykit> cparker: sure it is.  gentoo is an excellent source based distro, and debian/ubuntu is an excellent binary distro.
[11:46] <cparker> what would be the point of being able to add Source repositories to Synaptic, then?
[11:46] <synjet> Neo8750: did you edit your xorg.conf or have this situation after an update? just wondering
[11:46] <sethk> cparker, to install packages?
[11:46] <krazykit> cparker: to build certain things with certain options, in some cases.  also, if you're doing stuff with pbuild
[11:47] <cparker> sethk: then why do I need Binary repositories?
[11:47] <Neo8750> as far as i can recall it was after system update but i just randomly noticed it
[11:47] <Neo8750> but then again i did alter my xconf lately too
[11:47] <krazykit> cparker: seriously, if you want to build your packages from source, debian is not the way to go.  gentoo does what you want (building your packages from source with your compile-time options).
[11:47] <BoukenPink> synjet: It happens no matter what CD I use, whether burned or official ones.... though I haven't tried 6.06.1 yet
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> !winex
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <Neo8750> synjet: why what do you think could cause it and why would it afect my boot before x is loaded
[11:48] <sethk> cparker, if you don't need to install binary packages, you don't.  If you don't want source, then you don't need source repositories
[11:48] <jazzrocker> !cedega > MetaMorfoziS
[11:48] <Flannel> BoukenPink: have you tried installing from an alternate ISO?
[11:49] <krazykit> cparker: i say this because apt won't build all the deps for the thing you're trying to build, it'll just install the binary deps for it.
[11:49] <cparker> sethk: right. i want to install from Source repositories using Synaptic.
[11:49] <cparker> krazykit: I see....
[11:49] <jazzrocker> cparker, or FreeBSD
[11:49] <jazzrocker> cparker, FreeBSD > Gentoo
[11:49] <krazykit> not a debate to get into on #ubuntu, though.
[11:49] <jazzrocker> cparker, gentoo is wannabe freebsd
[11:49] <synjet> Neo8750: you didnt make a copy of xorg.conf? hmmn not sure, but this might help: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:50] <cparker> lol @ jazzrocker
[11:50] <sethk> cparker, by the way, the idea that compiling things locally is better is a gentoo myth.  it is not in general true.
[11:50] <synjet> BoukenPink: every CD gets stuck at time-zone config? how abt Kubuntu?
[11:50] <sethk> cparker, for most people, compiling locally will even result in things that run more slowly
[11:50] <shinaku> Hey, got a problem
[11:50] <mezoko> Ji
[11:50] <shinaku> XGL works fine, but when I start compiz my Alt key stops working
[11:50] <jazzrocker> sethk, how is that
[11:51] <shinaku> xmodmap'ed the xmodmap.uk
[11:51] <dantzig> hi, my synaptic package manager says that my libgtk2.0-bin conflicts with libgtk2.0-dev. i would like to install libgtk2.0-dev. what will happen? problems?
[11:51] <cparker> sethk: so, running a 386 package on a 686 machine versus a 686 package on a 686 machine won't make a difference?
[11:51] <shinaku> that stopped the shift+backspace glitch
[11:51] <Flannel> shinaku: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:51] <shinaku> ah, thanks ^^
[11:51] <mezoko> I have openssh installed on my ubuntu server, but when I press the backspace key in a ssh'd sessiont to my server the backspace key takes the default of the del key
[11:52] <sethk> cparker, not very much, no.  the compiler really has no meaningful optimizations that differ among those levels.  However, that was not the point of what I said.
[11:52] <sethk> cparker, I was talking about a binary 686 package versus a locally compiled 686 package
[11:52] <sethk> cparker, binaries are available for 686, generally speaking.
[11:53] <Neo8750> brb
[11:53] <devin_> what program can i use to copy music from my ipod to my home computer? i lost all my music when i installed ubuntu, but i love ubuntu... is there any way for me to do this in linux?
[11:53] <cerberus> Hi, How do you stop ubuntu from auto dialing a ppp connection on boot?
[11:53] <BoukenPink> Flannel: I've tried from xubuntu and ubuntu, the same thing happens....
[11:54] <maxamillion> what is the content manager that the ubuntu website runs on?
[11:54] <maxamillion> i keep forgetting
[11:54] <krazykit> devin_: gtkpod, i think, is one of them
[11:54] <cpk2> !ipod
[11:54] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[11:54] <cparker> right. but what if i eventually move to another architecture? for instance, I eventually plan on having a machine with a Cell processor. I imagine not every package maintainer will choose to provide Cell packages, at least not at first.
[11:54] <user-land> how can i install skype ?
[11:54] <Flannel> BoukenPink: not xubuntu.  Or anything.  Try 6.06.1, that might fix it.  But, you're more likely to get it fixed with an 'alternate ISO' instead of the Desktop one
[11:54] <Flannel> !tell user-land about skype
[11:54] <cpk2> !gtkpod
[11:54] <cparker> or say I get a PowerPC machine...
[11:54] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[11:54] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:55] <devin_> krazykit: thank you
[11:55] <BoukenPink> Flannel: Oh, that's what you meant. Sorry, I'm a ditz XD I was meaning the alternate version... The normal way loads so slowly for me that I can't stand it. Heh.
[11:55] <Crippy-Boy> cparker: Binaries are mostly avaliable for PPC (unless its closed source stuff), I own a mac and have never had a problem getting binaies
[11:56] <Flannel> BoukenPink: youre using the alternate CD already?  and, you're having problems?
[11:56] <mezoko> I have openssh installed on my ubuntu server, but when I press the backspace key in a ssh'd sessiont to my server the backspace key takes the default of the del key
[11:56] <sethk> cparker, compiling because binaries aren't available is a different situation, of course.  as Crippy-Boy notes, however, binary packages are available for a variety of environments.
[11:56] <fnord123> is there a way to use apt-get to install into a local dir?
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> BoukenPink: Is your problem that the live takes too long to load that you dont want to use it for the install?
[11:57] <pat_> bonsoir
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[11:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:57] <indulgence> how do i change root password in terminal?
[11:57] <piratepenguin> !grub
[11:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:57] <fnord123> er. not local; /home/[usr]  dir. im not the admin to this here box but i'd like to install something
[11:57] <Flannel> indulgence: there is no root password
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !root > indulgence
[11:57] <motin_> I have set my mac address to be reserved at 192.168.1.10 in my router settings (dhcp starts at .2), but when I connect to the network I always get .2 ... If I change settings in network-admin, will it be remembered as to only be valid with the current connected WLAN? I do not see any configuration options around the NetworkManager icon-menus. Please help.
[11:58] <indulgence> okay ^^
[11:58] <Kanzie> is there any way to have firefox open every link in a tab and _not_ focus on it?
[11:58] <devin_> how can i tell nautilus to hide items in my home directory?
[11:58] <pat_> sorry ok tank you godd night
[11:58] <acidjames_> i was looking for that today
[11:58] <acidjames_> didn't find much
[11:58] <Lard-O-Lad> Kanzie: middle clicking on the link opens it as a tab, and does not keep it in focus
[11:58] <motin_> Kanzie: yes, dont remember how though. try "about:config"
[11:58] <synjet> motin: I have seen my wlan give me the same IP everytime (unless router is booted)
[11:59] <BoukenPink> Flannel, Jack_Sparrow: I'm never sure if the live version install is loading or freezing when I use it, it takes so long... and the alternate CD version always freezes these days, right at that "initializing the clock" part or something.
[11:59] <motin_> synjet: the one you reserved in your router-settings?
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> devin_: Even if you hide them it is very easy for someone to unhide them
[11:59] <Flannel> Kanzie: there's a FF option to not focus it
[11:59] <pat_> ubotu good night
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good night - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <Neo8750> synjet: yeah it doesn't change anything
[11:59] <devin_> Jack_Sparrow: it's only for me, so i dont have to have a cluttered home directory
[11:59] <synjet> motin: yes
[11:59] <motin_> ubotu: poor you - never had any sleep
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poor you - never had any sleep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Flannel> BoukenPink: hmm.  That's odd.  Is your hardware clock having problems? or your bios?  You'd... have to google it, Ive never heard of that problem
[12:00] <motin_> synjet: hmm... did you do anything special?
[12:00] <mezoko> I have openssh installed on my ubuntu server, but when I press the backspace key in a ssh'd sessiont to my server the backspace key takes the default of the del key
[12:00] <mezoko> Can anyone help?
[12:00] <Flamekebab> obotu where the money's hidden
[12:00] <Flamekebab> ubotu where the money's hidden
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where the money's hidden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> BoukenPink: You are talking about something you need to do only once to get through the install.  What are you hadware specs.... It dosent talk lond an decent hardware.