[12:16] <pips1_> ah, you wrote the UbuntuScientists page! excellent! I had that printed out :)
[12:19] <LaserJock> well, I worked on it
[12:19] <LaserJock> I run MOTU Science
[12:21] <pips1_> ic
[12:21] <pips1_> you also do documentation...
[12:21] <LaserJock> mhm
[12:21] <LaserJock> wrote the Ubuntu Packaging Guide
[12:22] <pips1_> that's for MOTU's I assume?
[12:22] <LaserJock> people wanting to become MOTUs
[12:22] <pips1_> ah
[12:23] <LaserJock> help.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <pips1_> ah, you also got it onto lulu.com
[12:24] <LaserJock> mhm
[12:25] <pips1_> looks very concise
[12:25] <LaserJock> it's a work in progress ;-)
[12:27] <pips1_> well, it looks like you can read it in little time, but learn what it takes to do packaging... :-)
[12:29] <pips1_> Chapters like How to Deal with Feature Requests, How to deal with suggestions for changing defaults, ... excellent!!
[12:30] <pips1_> I really think that concise pointers like this are needed to make it easier for people who want to contribute.
[12:33] <pips1_> LaserJock: I only discovered the "previous/up/next" wiki navigation quite recently... was that available since a long time?
[12:36] <LaserJock> hmm
[12:37] <LaserJock> I don't think it has it
[12:37] <pips1_> ??
[12:37] <pips1_> so how does that work?
[12:42] <stormchas3r> does edubuntu use a diff repo than ubuntu, or is there any alternate repos for edubuntu?
[12:42] <LaserJock> nope
[12:42] <LaserJock> it's all the same
[12:42] <LaserJock> as with Xubuntu and Kubuntu
[12:42] <stormchas3r> roger,  i was just checking
[12:47] <pips1_> LaserJock, so how is the nice formatting of 'help.ubuntu.com' achieved? I don't want to take up your time... is there a documentation newbie guide, where I could read about this?
[12:47] <LaserJock> well, formating of what exactly?
[12:48] <LaserJock> there are 2 sections
[12:48] <LaserJock> one is the shipped docs
[12:48] <LaserJock> those are the 5.10 and 6.06 tabs
[12:48] <LaserJock> and the Community tab is the doc wiki
[12:48] <pips1_> well, in help.ubuntu.com, you get those nice icons of the note, tip, alerts, etc
[12:48] <LaserJock> ahh
[12:48] <LaserJock> that's docbook
[12:48] <LaserJock> XML
[12:49] <pips1_> ok, I understand
[12:49] <LaserJock> we turn it into HTML and pdf
[12:49] <pips1_> so people start drafting in the wiki, but often work shifts to docbook ?
[12:50] <LaserJock> much of it is docbook to start with
[12:50] <pips1_> what tools are used to edit docbook?
[12:50] <LaserJock> but the documentation team had a Summer of Code project that produced a wiki->docbook converter
[12:50] <LaserJock> vim, emacs, gedit, kwrite :-)
[12:50] <pips1_> wow, nice one
[12:51] <LaserJock> it's pretty easy to pick up
[12:51] <pips1_> they all support the 'docbook' format?! wow
[12:51] <LaserJock> it's pretty standard
[12:52] <pips1_> I mean, is there highlighting or even autocompletion for docbook syntax?
[12:53] <LaserJock> yeah
[12:53] <pips1_> what do you use?
[12:54] <LaserJock> nxml-mode is good for emacs
[12:54] <LaserJock> pretty much all of them at one point or another
[12:55] <pips1_> I haven't used text editors much at all
[12:56] <LaserJock> brb
[12:56] <pips1_> I can use emacs in a very *basic* way if I have to, but I never really got to grips with vi
[12:56] <pips1_> oops
[12:59] <BDahl> Hello!
[12:59] <BDahl> is anybody around to help me with my printing issues?
[01:04] <pips1_> ah, ubuntu-book.css is the ubuntu-docbook style sheet, i see
[01:07] <pips1_> LaserJock: are most of the documentation "books" written by a single person? is work divided up into chapters always? how often does it happen that several people colaborate on a single chapter? ... from your experience...
[01:07] <stormchas3r> Bdahl, whats the problem
[01:07] <pips1_> Bdahl left already
[01:08] <pygi> pips1_, not all doc book are written by one person. People do colaborate on one chapter if they think they can work together, and make it better. 
[01:08] <stormchas3r> dang
[01:08] <stormchas3r> more minds are better that one
[01:09] <pips1_> pygi: do they use collaborative editors (gobby) at all?
[01:09] <pygi> pips1_, yup ^_^
[01:09] <pips1_> or is it more a case of alternating writing / reviewing / re-writing, etc
[01:09] <pygi> pips1_, depends
[01:10] <pips1_> I just had a look at gobby recently. can't wait to try it out for some collaborative writing :-)
[01:11] <Burgwork> pips1_, it is very cool
[01:11] <Burgwork> there is going to be a UWN hackfest tonight, so feel free to join in
[01:11] <pygi> pips1_, what you wanna write ? ^_^
[01:11] <pygi> Burgwork, UWN? remind me pls :)
[01:13] <pips1_> yeah, ogra mentioned it earlier, what is UWN?
[01:15] <pygi> why?
[01:15] <stormchas3r> idk, lol
[01:15] <pygi> heh
[01:16] <stormchas3r> is there a demo gobby channel i can try?
[01:16] <pips1_> stormchas3r: let me know if you find one
[01:16] <Burgwork> pygi, Ubuntu Weekly News
[01:16] <pygi> Burgwork, o, right :)
[01:16] <stormchas3r> pips1_, i will
[01:16] <Burgwork> stormchas3r, there will be my UWN server up in about 1 hour or so
[01:17] <pips1_> ack, I will be in bed, me thinks
[01:17] <stormchas3r> how will we know the host and port?
[01:17] <stormchas3r> lol
[01:17] <Burgwork> yes, the UWN #14 page will list it
[01:17] <Burgwork> #ubuntu-marketing for helping out
[01:17] <stormchas3r> pips1_, did you get an error when you run sudo gobby?
[01:17] <stormchas3r> gotcha
[01:18] <stormchas3r> pygi, i created a lauchpad acct about a week ago
[01:18] <pygi> stormchas3r, good ^_^
[01:18] <stormchas3r> :)
[01:18] <pygi> pips1_, I'm willing to give you some gobby insights if you wait ^_^
[01:20] <pips1_> pygi stop tempting me :-)
[01:20] <stormchas3r> gobby is just a collaboration channel?
[01:21] <pips1_> gobby is an application
[01:21] <stormchas3r> ya, i have it running
[01:21] <pips1_> right :)
[01:21] <Burgwork> gobby is an application that allows real time collaboration
[01:21] <stormchas3r> kind of like this
[01:21] <stormchas3r> irc
[01:22] <pips1_> yeah, but I can edit what you said ;-)
[01:22] <stormchas3r> o nice
[01:23] <stormchas3r> Burgwork, are we allowed to join the session and watch?
[01:23] <pips1_> I'm sure we can
[01:23] <stormchas3r> pips1_, nice
[01:23] <stormchas3r> pips1_, what time is it over there?
[01:23] <stormchas3r> swiss, right?
[01:24] <pips1_> hehe
[01:24] <stormchas3r> lol
[01:24] <Burgwork> stormchas3r, of course
[01:24] <stormchas3r> great
[01:24] <Burgwork> pips1_, given I control the session, I can kick people out
[01:24] <pips1_> 1:24 am
[01:24] <stormchas3r> gotcha
[01:24] <pips1_> Burgwork: interesting
[01:25] <stormchas3r> http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6152/screenshottn4.png
[01:25] <stormchas3r> anythoughts how to fix that?
[01:27] <pips1_> yeah, I got the same message too
[01:27] <stormchas3r> weird
[01:27] <stormchas3r> *** WARNING *** Please fix your application to use the native API of Avahi!
[01:27] <stormchas3r> ack
[01:27] <pygi> stormchas3r, ignore pls :)
[01:28] <stormchas3r> kk
[01:28] <stormchas3r> will do 
[01:28] <pips1_> Zeroconf is about discovering devices on your network automatically
[01:28] <pips1_> you will propably not need it, I suspect
[01:29] <stormchas3r> only if we were on the same subnet as Burgwork 
[01:29] <stormchas3r> ;)
[01:29] <stormchas3r> pips1_, let me know if you find the info to join the channel
[01:30] <pips1_> ok
[01:30] <stormchas3r> that "student control panel" is one amazing tool
[01:31] <pips1_> oh, you installed it'
[01:31] <pips1_> ?
[01:31] <stormchas3r> o yea
[01:31] <stormchas3r> getting ready to get a lab up and running in my work
[01:32] <pips1_> you are using edgy?!
[01:32] <stormchas3r> dapper
[01:32] <stormchas3r> y
[01:33] <LaserJock> pips1_: sorry was afk
[01:33] <LaserJock> pips1_: most docs are sort of "led" by one or 2 people
[01:33] <pips1_> stormchas3r:  have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[01:33] <stormchas3r> kk
[01:33] <LaserJock> but lots of people contibute
[01:34] <pips1_> LaserJock: tx
[01:34] <stormchas3r> nice pips1_ 
[01:34] <pips1_> stormchas3r: so student control panel is available in dapper?
[01:34] <LaserJock> in universe I think
[01:35] <pips1_> but that must be the old version, surely...
[01:35] <stormchas3r> yes, i searched synaptic for 'student' and it was there
[01:35] <stormchas3r> amazing gui
[01:36] <stormchas3r> we use synchoneyes in our schools and this will be a huge benefit
[01:38] <stormchas3r> pips1_, here ya go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StudentControlPanelCompletion?highlight=%28control%29%7C%28student%29
[01:40] <pips1_> stormchas3r: thanks
[01:40] <pips1_> I know what it want to do, but I can't wait to see it live ;-)
[01:41] <pips1_> *wants
[01:42] <LaserJock> it's in edgy
[01:42] <pygi> new version is much better, mostly thanks to cbx33 ;)
[01:43] <pips1_> is it available in knot-3? from what ogra said, it takes some workarounds to get knot-3 to run...
[01:44] <stormchas3r> so it doesnt work in dapper then?
[01:44] <pips1_> Burgwork: do you edit UWN *in-place* ?! in the wiki? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14?action=edit )
[01:45] <pips1_> with gobby, I mean
[01:46] <stormchas3r> patience my friend
[01:46] <stormchas3r> :)
[01:46] <pips1_> yeah, just 15 mins to go
[01:46] <stormchas3r> lol
[01:47] <pips1_> I'm soooo excited! tatata dada dum dum
[01:47] <pips1_> :)
[01:47] <stormchas3r> lol
[01:48] <stormchas3r> nice
[01:48] <stormchas3r> welcome chris
[01:48] <Unix_n_Coffee> well thank you
[01:48] <Unix_n_Coffee> how is everyone doing today?
[01:48] <stormchas3r> unix and cofee, nice mix
[01:48] <stormchas3r> lol
[01:49] <stormchas3r> cream and sugar please
[01:49] <Unix_n_Coffee> ohh its brewing
[01:49] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[01:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> so what brings me in here...
[01:50] <pips1_> hehe
[01:50] <stormchas3r> neeeeice
[01:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[01:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[01:50] <stormchas3r> this is the edubuntu channel and these guys devote themselves to ubuntu in education
[01:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> wow
[01:50] <stormchas3r> ya
[01:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> is that true guys?
[01:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> dont speak for themselves rob
[01:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> ;)
[01:51] <stormchas3r> ha
[01:51] <pips1_> yup
[01:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> pips1 what country?
[01:51] <pips1_> ch
[01:51] <pips1_> switzerland
[01:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> chaina?!
[01:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> switzerland!
[01:51] <stormchas3r> switz, nice
[01:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> impressed
[01:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[01:51] <stormchas3r> ping Unix_n_Coffee 
[01:52] <stormchas3r> pips1_, do we know the channel yet?
[01:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> pong stormchas3r
[01:52] <pips1_> stormchas3r: nope
[01:52] <stormchas3r> doh
[01:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> so rob is this another good friend you met on IRC?
[01:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> everyone i am chris
[01:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> :) im part of opensource!
[01:53] <stormchas3r> who?
[01:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> pips1_
[01:53] <pips1_> Burgwork is still around, he promised to let us know
[01:53] <stormchas3r> just met him, ;)
[01:53] <stormchas3r> kk
[01:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> pips1_ where you from?
[01:53] <pips1_> ch
[01:53] <pips1_> :)
[01:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> china!
[01:54] <pips1_> exactly
[01:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> amazing :))
[01:54] <stormchas3r> Unix_n_Coffee, there having a newsletter meeting soon, and we are going to use gobby and watch and learn
[01:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> cool
[01:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> :) we all net to make a good newspaper article!
[01:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> :) or some sort of article
[01:54] <stormchas3r> lol
[01:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[01:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> rob not a lot of people are talking in here!
[01:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> come on people!
[01:55] <stormchas3r> i know, there busy
[01:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> ohh ok
[01:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> so linux in education
[01:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[01:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> i was thinking rob ;) 
[01:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> guess what i was thinking
[01:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> ... want to take a guess
[01:57] <stormchas3r> sure
[01:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> US is all microosoft basiclly what would bill say about linux taking over! will microsoft be opensource
[01:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> ;)
[01:57] <stormchas3r> thats possible, 
[01:57] <stormchas3r> but i doubt it
[01:57] <stormchas3r> bill gates would never go for it
[01:58] <stormchas3r> lol
[01:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[01:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> I'm fine with my alternatives tho :)
[01:58] <stormchas3r> ya
[01:58] <stormchas3r> Burgwork, any word?
[01:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> my teacher was impressed about that picture made in gimp ;)
[01:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone like to see my teacher and me? :)
[01:59] <pips1_> stormchas3r: now you are impatient! ;-)
[01:59] <stormchas3r> hahahahaha
[01:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> pips1_ hes just a pain to deal with
[01:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> ;) just kidding sotrm
[01:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> storm*
[01:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[02:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> dont slap me now!
[02:00] <stormchas3r> ouch
[02:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> or give me a spanky_ ;)
[02:00] <stormchas3r> lol
[02:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> haha 
[02:00] <spanky_> Hello I know this isn't an edubuntu question directly but I was wondering if any of you know...ah a fun bunch cool
[02:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> ;) start reading
[02:01] <stormchas3r> sup spanky_ 
[02:01] <spanky_> you guys do alot of thin client work. I have a server set up which I connect to through XDMCP. Do you know of anyway to forward the audio along with the video? I have the video working perfectly but no sound
[02:02] <spanky_> you guys do alot of thin client work. I have a server set up which I connect to through XDMCP. Do you know of anyway to forward the audio along with the video? I have the video working perfectly but no sound
[02:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> rob questions ... im clueless
[02:02] <stormchas3r> ditto that
[02:02] <stormchas3r> lol
[02:03] <stormchas3r> ha
[02:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> unix server in edubuntu 
[02:03] <stormchas3r> lol
[02:03] <stormchas3r> pips1_, anything?
[02:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> acually spanky_ me and rob here are new :)
[02:03] <stormchas3r> ya
[02:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> were clueless we only know ubuntu as of now
[02:04] <stormchas3r> right
[02:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> and rob suse 10.1
[02:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> ;)
[02:04] <spanky_> the server people sent me over here. Said you might have some ideas cause they didn't have a clue
[02:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> slap him for trying that
[02:04] <stormchas3r> actually, 9.3 -10.1
[02:04] <Burgwork> spanky_, on the phone, will help you in a sec
[02:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> 9.3 wasnt bad rob was impressed
[02:04] <stormchas3r> right
[02:04] <spanky_> Burgwork: thank you
[02:05] <Unix_n_Coffee> very polite guy :)
[02:05] <Unix_n_Coffee> so spanky_ you for linux in education?
[02:05] <stormchas3r> Unix_n_Coffee, you should install all edubuntu pkg's on your machine
[02:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> i should and who has the list of the deb's 
[02:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[02:06] <stormchas3r> there is the universe
[02:06] <stormchas3r> there in*
[02:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> ;) duo boot since ubuntu isbt taking up a lot
[02:06] <stormchas3r> no need to
[02:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> alright
[02:06] <bddebian> Heya
[02:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[02:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> got the sources?
[02:06] <stormchas3r> hey bddebian 
[02:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[02:06] <bddebian> Hello stormchas3r
[02:07] <stormchas3r> search synaptic
[02:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> hi hbdebian
[02:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok
[02:07] <stormchas3r> for "edubuntu"
[02:07] <bddebian> Heh, hello Unix_n_Coffee.  Nice nick :-)
[02:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok :)
[02:07] <stormchas3r> ya it is
[02:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> well thank you its registered ;)
[02:08] <stormchas3r> mine is to, i just forget my pw
[02:08] <stormchas3r> lol
[02:08] <Unix_n_Coffee> edubuntu live?
[02:08] <stormchas3r> nope
[02:09] <stormchas3r> dont install from a disc
[02:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> edubuntu server?
[02:09] <stormchas3r> if you want
[02:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> its in the package manager
[02:09] <stormchas3r> ya
[02:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> :| edubuntu live
[02:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> edubuntu desktop?
[02:09] <stormchas3r> i love the gartoon icons in edubuntu
[02:09] <stormchas3r> all of it
[02:09] <stormchas3r> you can always remove it
[02:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok its downloading edubuntu desktop
[02:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[02:10] <stormchas3r> nice
[02:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> so this will make me have a dual boot
[02:10] <stormchas3r> nope
[02:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> like for ex login screen...
[02:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> session edubuntu?
[02:10] <stormchas3r> if u want
[02:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> great
[02:11] <stormchas3r> ya
[02:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> talk to you later in edubuntu
[02:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[02:11] <stormchas3r> :)
[02:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> 7 mins
[02:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[02:11] <stormchas3r> do u have add?
[02:11] <stormchas3r> lol
[02:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> whats add?
[02:12] <stormchas3r> ADD
[02:12] <stormchas3r> google it
[02:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok
[02:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> i know how to add lol
[02:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> but ok
[02:12] <stormchas3r> not math
[02:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> no lol
[02:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> how could you think that
[02:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> rob!!
[02:13] <stormchas3r> lol
[02:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> how dare you
[02:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> u add?
[02:13] <stormchas3r> nope
[02:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok then
[02:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> what makes u think i am add lol
[02:13] <stormchas3r> idk.i was kidding
[02:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok
[02:14] <stormchas3r> ouch
[02:14] <Unix_n_Coffee> start reading
[02:14] <Unix_n_Coffee> i upped it ;)
[02:14] <Burgwork> guys, you might want to quiet down a little
[02:14] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok 
[02:14] <Unix_n_Coffee> ill be good
[02:14] <stormchas3r> kk
[02:14] <Unix_n_Coffee> quite game starting.. now!
[02:14] <Burgwork> spanky_, Ubuntu uses LTSP, not XDMCP
[02:15] <Burgwork> in order to get sound, you need to flip a bit on your lts.conf
[02:15] <Burgwork> SOUND=Yes or True
[02:15] <spanky_> ltsp? never heard of it before. All the settings I found in admin-> login window for x11 forwarding were XDMCP
[02:16] <spanky_> in etc?
[02:16] <Burgwork> right, you need to install the ltsp package
[02:16] <Burgwork> and then do that
[02:16] <spanky_> on both the client and server side?
[02:16] <Burgwork> http://edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[02:16] <Burgwork> on the server
[02:16] <Burgwork> read that
[02:16] <spanky_> ok thanks
[02:16] <Burgwork> finding you the sound page, just as ec
[02:17] <Burgwork> http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig
[02:17] <spanky_> not sure if it makes a difference but I am not running the edubuntu distro but the main ubuntu distro
[02:17] <Burgwork> it will work exactly the same way
[02:17] <Burgwork> you will just get Ubuntu on the thin clients, not Edubuntu
[02:18] <Burgwork> anyway, I need to go home now. I will be back on irc in a flash
[02:20] <pips1_> erm, Burgwork, what's your estimated time for the gobby edting?
[02:20] <stormchas3r> Burgwork, is gobbly up?
[02:20] <Burgwork> about 45 minutes
[02:20] <stormchas3r> kk
[02:20] <Burgwork> we are meeting about the UWN, then editin git
[02:20] <pips1_> ack
[02:20] <stormchas3r> ack?
[02:21] <pips1_> I need to go to sleep
[02:21] <stormchas3r> sweet dreams
[02:21] <pips1_> thanks
[02:21] <pips1_> have fun
[02:21] <stormchas3r> you 2
[02:21] <pips1_> but maybe you want to ease of on all that slapping action ;-)
[02:22] <stormchas3r> lol
[02:29] <spanky_> still there burgwork?
[02:30] <spanky_> Could you repast the link to the thin client setup docs please?
[02:33] <stormchas3r> spanky_, http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig
[02:33] <spanky_> thank you
[02:34] <stormchas3r> spanky_, your welcome
[02:35] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: hi
[02:40] <spanky_> Any idea if this will work with cygwin for windows clients?
[02:50] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: hey dude hows it going
[02:57] <LaserJock> ok
[03:18] <cafuego> http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/iMacEdubuntuArraySmall.jpg
[03:57] <stormbuntu> Burgundavia, is it up and running?
[04:00] <Burgundavia> stormbuntu: yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14
[04:00] <stormbuntu> ty
[09:27] <RichEd> hi ... just ducking my head in ... went to bed after 1 and feeling quite shattered tday
[09:28] <RichEd> will have a slow quiet start to the day and check in here later
[09:54] <willvdl> Seems like an interesting meeting last night
[10:02] <cbx33> willvdl: indeed it was ;)
[10:03] <willvdl> have you used dotproject before?
[10:03] <Burgundavia> willvdl: some
[10:03] <willvdl> quite a "feature rich" beastie innit?
[10:04] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:04] <willvdl> which is the one that mirrors MS Project again? been a while sinced I used it
[10:05] <Burgundavia> planner
[10:05] <willvdl> that's it.
[10:05] <cbx33> I have used it a lot
[10:05] <willvdl> planner?
[10:06] <cbx33> willvdl: I'll be installing a dotproject server for us to use tonight
[10:06] <cbx33> no dotproject
[10:06] <willvdl> ah. My site seems to have it in Fantastico. hmmm
[10:06] <cbx33> ooooh nice
[10:10] <pygi> morning all
[10:10] <willvdl> morning
[10:11] <cbx33> willvdl: are you up for using dotproject for ESA then?
[10:11] <willvdl> Sure. I've used MS Project extensively in the past and these things can help.
[10:11] <cbx33> good
[10:12] <willvdl> Does it fo file sharing
[10:12] <willvdl> do
[10:12] <cbx33> um
[10:13] <cbx33> it has document sharing
[10:13] <cbx33> but i have never used it myself yet
[10:13] <cbx33> willvdl: this is gonna be cool
[10:13] <cbx33> brb
[10:14] <willvdl> natch. coffee
[10:29] <cbx33> back
[10:34] <willvdl> where you going to host it?
[10:34] <cbx33> i have a server in the states
[10:34] <cbx33> i could host it there
[10:34] <willvdl> cool. mine is a bit slow
[10:35] <cbx33> np
[10:35] <cbx33> I hope to have that done tonight
[10:37] <willvdl> groovy. In the mean time I'm going to try and pull together some use cases
[10:57] <cbx33> willvdl: you rock dude
[10:59] <willvdl> It's a tricky thing deciding on whether an ubuntu base with educational stuff on top can be "effectively" regarded as edubuntu
[10:59] <willvdl> essentially it's the same thing, just customised
[11:00] <willvdl> highvoltage ping
[11:05] <cbx33> willvdl: indeed
[11:05] <cbx33> but when it starts to get it's own set of developers
[11:07] <willvdl> Burgundavia, I think I should chat to you again about case studies soon
[11:11] <cbx33> ping RichEd 
[11:12] <RichEd> cbx33: pong
[11:13] <cbx33> do we have time yet ;)
[11:14] <RichEd> Let me send an email a bit later to get the conversation started -> see window
[11:17] <cbx33> RichEd: did you see we're goign to trial dotproject a little later
[11:18] <RichEd> yep ... am following conversations quietly
[11:19] <pygi> cbx33, ActiveCollab ^_^
[11:34] <willvdl> pygi, looks quite neat
[11:34] <cbx33> hmm lemme check
[11:35] <pygi> willvdl, ActiveCollab is very good, and author is very dedicated to even improve it
[11:35] <willvdl> not too sure if I like the task handling though
[11:36] <pygi> ah, what for you do need collaboration software?
[11:37] <willvdl> but then none of these web-based tools ever handle it well though
[11:39] <willvdl> it's certainly very neat.
[11:43] <highvoltage> willvdl: pong
[11:44] <willvdl> ah. forgotton what I was going to say now
[11:44] <cbx33> willvdl: which one do you want to go with
[11:44] <willvdl> cbx33, dot project for me I'd say. more chance to explore things like CRM etc.
[11:45] <cbx33> willvdl: cool
[11:46] <willvdl> highvoltage, that's it. would you regard the latest tuXlabs as test cases for edubuntu? Even if given a certain context?
[11:46] <highvoltage> willvdl: in a certain context, sure
[11:47] <highvoltage> willvdl: we build mostly on what edubuntu provides us, so we consider the tuxlab stuff derivative work of edubuntu
[11:49] <juliux> morning
[11:49] <juliux> is the 20060914.1 is the laste iso for testing
[11:49] <juliux> is the 20060914.1 iso the last test image?
[11:50] <cbx33> i presume so
[11:50] <juliux> ok
[11:51] <juliux> i will download it so i can test it in 2h
[11:52] <willvdl> highvoltage, cool.
[11:54] <cbx33> willvdl: activeCollab requires PHP5 anyway so I can't test here
[11:54] <cbx33> and it's probably not going to work on my server
[11:56] <willvdl> ah. that settles it then :)
[11:56] <cbx33> though it does look nice
[11:56] <cbx33> *bah* it looks very spiffy
[11:58] <willvdl> at least dotproject got a facelift from it's original "geeklog" looknfeel
[11:58] <cbx33> hehe
[01:42] <STORMCHAS3R> morning al
[01:43] <STORMCHAS3R> all*
[01:43] <juliux> hi STORMCHAS3R 
[01:44] <cbx33> cool
[01:46] <jsgotangco> nice
[01:47] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, what was that command you said yesterday? ltsp-update-keys?
[01:54] <cbx33> STORMCHAS3R: yes
[01:54] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, how do i run that?
[01:54] <cbx33> press Alt+F2
[01:54] <STORMCHAS3R> roger
[01:54] <STORMCHAS3R> ty
[01:55] <cbx33> and you get a command thing
[01:55] <STORMCHAS3R> kk
[01:55] <cbx33> type sudo ltsp-update-keys
[01:55] <STORMCHAS3R> rgr
[01:55] <cbx33> should work
[01:55] <STORMCHAS3R> ty
[01:55] <STORMCHAS3R> brb
[02:21] <jsgotangco> hmm does anyone remember the plugin i need to play unencrypted DVDs
[02:27] <Petaris> libdvdcss or some such?
[02:27] <Petaris> er, wait
[02:28] <Petaris> unencrypted dvds?  No idea
[02:30] <jsgotangco> libdvdcss is the reverse engineered one ;)
[02:30] <Petaris> right
[02:30] <Petaris> not sure about the one you are looking for
[02:31] <jsgotangco> yeah must be one of them gstreamer plugins
[02:31] <Petaris> and actually I guess its libdvdcss2
[02:31] <STORMCHAS3R> jsgotangco, did you search synaptic?
[02:31] <jsgotangco> STORMCHAS3R: sure ;)
[02:31] <STORMCHAS3R> nice
[02:33] <pygi> gst-plugins-ugly && gst-plugins-bad && gst-plugins-good
[02:33] <jsgotangco> pygi: what does -good contain?
[02:34] <pygi> jsgotangco, good codecs, open ones, and properly implemented
[02:35] <jsgotangco> haha this is weird
[02:37] <jsgotangco> ok goodie, ive just confirmed the DVDs are unencrypted
[02:38] <jsgotangco> RichEd: I think I can just digitise these DVDs for now as a proof of concept that we can make this working on Edubuntu
[02:51] <cbx33> does anyone have an estimate of the number of ubuntu machines in use today
[02:51] <cbx33> and also the number of linux machines inuse today as desktop machines not servers
[02:56] <highvoltage> http://counter.li.org has some estimates on Linux use
[02:56] <cbx33> highvoltage: are we getting xubuntu cd's pressed this release?
[02:57] <highvoltage> cbx33: I don't think so, best is to ask janimo on #xubuntu
[02:57] <jsgotangco> i doubt it
[02:59] <jsgotangco> heh i have to find a way to digitise these DVDs to ogg or something
[02:59] <highvoltage> the ubuntu cd's? :)
[02:59] <jsgotangco> no the educational DVDs of our foundation
[03:00] <jsgotangco> i noticed they are unencrypted so that's a +
[03:00] <jsgotangco> i could probably ask for the master tape and convert it instead of ripping the DVD
[03:19] <Petaris> jsgotangco: What are the DVDs about, just the ubuntu orginization?
[03:20] <McKenzie> hi all
[03:21] <McKenzie> anyone that know where to find the minimal requirements??? i can't find them in the official site
[03:22] <Petaris> minimal requirements for installign edubuntu?
[03:22] <Petaris> or for an ltsp client?
[03:22] <McKenzie> for live cd
[03:24] <Petaris> I'm not sure if there is any
[03:24] <Petaris> And it really depends what you are going to do with it
[03:25] <Petaris> Will it be a stand alnoe workstation, a server, an ltsp server?
[03:25] <McKenzie> standalone workstation
[03:25] <Petaris> ok
[03:26] <Petaris> you probably want at least a 400MHz processor
[03:26] <Petaris> and 128 MB RAM
[03:26] <Petaris> 256 would be better
[03:27] <Petaris> at least a 8 MB video card
[03:27] <Petaris> at least a 6 GB HDD (if installing)
[03:27] <Petaris> sound card is optional
[03:28] <McKenzie> wow... quite low... tnx a lot, i will try it on the old computer :)
[03:28] <Petaris> and probably at least a 10 Mb NIC or 56k modem for internet
[03:29] <Petaris> McKenzie: note that it should run on those, but it may be slugish
[03:29] <Petaris> and it just depends what you are doing
[03:30] <McKenzie> i just want to try :)... If it works ok if not no problem... i will use the live cd :)
[03:31] <McKenzie> so i don't lose lot of time :)
[03:32] <jsgotangco> Petaris: no...i work in an local foundation, and one of the primary focuses is education...we have a library of self-produced educational shows and we have a project to move them to computers
[03:33] <Petaris> jsgotangco: Ahh, ok
[03:33] <Petaris> I thought maybe it was an Ubuntu promotional or documentary type thing
[03:33] <Petaris> McKenzie: Ok, have fun
[03:34] <jsgotangco> well its a big boost for Edubuntu when the project succeeds because wee using it as the base platform for education
[03:34] <Petaris> McKenzie: Oh, and the Xubuntu live cd is probably the best (last I played with it anyway)
[03:34] <Petaris> jsgotangco: Cool, where abouts are you?
[03:34] <McKenzie> ok, tnx
[03:35] <jsgotangco> Petaris: ABS-CBN Foundation
[03:35] <Petaris> http://www.abs-cbnfoundation.com/ that you?
[03:36] <jsgotangco> yes, but our website is really nasty ;)
[03:36] <Petaris> yeah, I see that
[03:37] <jsgotangco> i came in to fix those nasty stuff
[03:37] <Petaris> cool
[03:37] <jsgotangco> in our mother company, you cant surf www at all if youe not using IE ;)
[03:37] <jsgotangco> its a sad reality for now
[03:38] <Petaris> ahh, I moved everyone here to ff
[03:38] <Petaris> IE had too many security issues and lots of ad-ware/spy-ware issues
[03:38] <cbx33> yup
[03:38] <cbx33> too true
[03:38] <jsgotangco> that good it hurts me as part of the edubuntu project
[03:39] <jsgotangco> that i cant even run linux connected at work
[03:39] <jsgotangco> so i work at home
[03:39] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:39] <Petaris> I am running more liux on the backbone here then they realize
[03:40] <Petaris> I have 7 servers in the district
[03:40] <jsgotangco> my strategy is become part of the system first then make them realise how inefficient the current structure is
[03:40] <Petaris> only 3 are windows
[03:40] <Petaris> jsgotangco: Just show them the validation test results from that page
[03:40] <Petaris> haha
[03:41] <jsgotangco> because im in a delicate position at the moment and some see me as a looming threat
[03:41] <jsgotangco> haha
[03:41] <Petaris> you are a threat
[03:41] <jsgotangco> you know what i will just grab all the data on the website then dump them to drupal
[03:41] <Petaris> a threat to mediocracy
[03:41] <jsgotangco> bingo
[03:42] <Petaris> a threat to vendor lock-in
[03:42] <jsgotangco> it also helps that i have strong ISO documentation skillz
[03:43] <Petaris> thats always handy
[03:43] <jsgotangco> working on a semicon firm for 8 years made me rigid if not nosy on docs hehe
[03:43] <jsgotangco> and procedures
[03:43] <Petaris> I know many a project that could use good documentation, lol
[04:07] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, the "ltsp-update-keys" cmd comes up with command not found, any thoughts?
[04:31] <STORMCHAS3R> RichEd, hello
[04:31] <RichEd> his
[04:31] <RichEd> hi STORMCHAS3R 
[04:31] <STORMCHAS3R> did you get my email?
[04:34] <cbx33> STORMCHAS3R: hmmm
[04:35] <cbx33> STORMCHAS3R: if you load a terminal window and type ltsp and then press tab what do you get
[04:35] <RichEd> Sure did ... Thanks ... I have a few more questions which I will send back to you ... and we can see where your kind offer of support could be applied.
[04:35] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, on the thin client?
[04:35] <cbx33> no
[04:35] <cbx33> on the server....althought it shouldn't matter
[04:35] <jsgotangco> hey RichEd 
[04:36] <cbx33> as the client is the  server
[04:36] <STORMCHAS3R> let me try
[04:36] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, i get nada
[04:36] <cbx33> eh ?
[04:36] <RichEd> hey jsgotangco: I was the DVD comment earlier ... I was lurking :)
[04:37] <jsgotangco> cheers
[04:37] <RichEd> jsgotangco: I presume you mean it was a "M$ format DVD" which you will rip to disk and playback as a file under Ubuntu
[04:37] <jsgotangco> RichEd: nahhh there no such thing as an MS format DVD
[04:37] <jsgotangco> just encrypted and unecrypted ones
[04:38] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, i type "ltsp" and hit tab and nothing comes up
[04:38] <jsgotangco> since the DVDs are unecrypted we could easily play them on linux
[04:38] <jsgotangco> without any encumbrances
[04:38] <cbx33> do> locate ltsp
[04:38] <jsgotangco> but thats just an observation and not a milestone for sure
[04:38] <jsgotangco> but its a good start
[04:38] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, alot of entries, 
[04:40] <cbx33> hehe
[04:40] <cbx33> locate ltsp-
[04:40] <RichEd> jsgotangco: was thinking just that while I was typing ... but the brain is a bit foggy today :)
[04:41] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, thats better
[04:41] <cbx33> try sudo ltsp-update-keys
[04:42] <STORMCHAS3R> kk
[04:42] <STORMCHAS3R> looks like i have ltsp-update-sshkeys
[04:42] <STORMCHAS3R> no -keys
[04:45] <pips1> hello everyone
[04:46] <STORMCHAS3R> morn pips1 
[04:47] <jsgotangco> im gonna sleep
[04:47] <jsgotangco> ciao
[04:47] <pips1> nn jsgotangco
[04:48] <pips1> I went to sleep way too late last night myself
[04:49] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, ok, i got the keys for edubuntu
[04:49] <STORMCHAS3R> anuthing else?
[04:50] <pygi> cbx33, poke? :)
[04:50] <cbx33> pygi: I'm here
[04:51] <pygi> good luck with getting sponsorship, which you'll most probably get ^_^ (unlike me :P)
[04:52] <cbx33> y wouldn't you get it?
[04:52] <cbx33> that's silly
[04:52] <cbx33> you['ve done more than I Mr Pygi
[04:53] <pygi> cbx33, stop that I tell ya, and don't call me Mr, that's very funny ^_^
[04:53] <cbx33> STORMCHAS3R: that's the name of it....heh...I only wrote th man page  - you'd think I shoud remember
[04:53] <cbx33> Yagisan: !!!!
[04:53] <cbx33> sorry Mr pygi
[04:53] <STORMCHAS3R> lol
[04:53] <cbx33> Yagisan: remember our discussion about the overheating of my PC
[04:53] <cbx33> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=136
[04:53] <cbx33> I wonder why.....
[04:54] <jsgotangco> yuckk that is one ugly fan
[04:54] <pygi> cbx33, so just...good luck and hopefully you'll enjoy ^_^
[04:54] <cbx33> jsgotangco: I didn't choose it....
[04:54] <cbx33> heheh...thanks pygi 
[04:54] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, i still cannot login on the thin client side :(
[04:54] <cbx33> hmm
[04:54] <cbx33> ok....tehre is a log file you should check
[04:55] <Yagisan> cbx33, heh - I was right
[04:55] <STORMCHAS3R> kicks me back to the login screen
[04:55] <cbx33> but I can't remember what it is right now
[04:58] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, do I need to do ltsp-update-client?
[04:59] <cbx33> don't think so
[05:01] <STORMCHAS3R> I dont need to be pushy, i am just trying to get this up and running for the school demo,  is there documentation that could help me?
[05:03] <bddebian> Heya
[05:03] <cbx33> STORMCHAS3R: hang on dude
[05:03] <cbx33> just booting up a box so I can help you out
[05:03] <pygi> morning bddebian 
[05:04] <bddebian> Hello pygi
[05:04] <STORMCHAS3R> cbx33, i greatly appreciate this
[05:11] <cbx33> stormchas3r: look in /var/log
[05:11] <cbx33> do tail auth.log
[05:11] <cbx33> and paste into a pastebin
[05:14] <stormchas3r> kk h.o
[05:18] <stormchas3r> cbx33, http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/2306/screenshotug2.png
[05:18] <stormchas3r> srry pastebin wasnt working
[05:18] <pygi> stormchas3r, ubuntu-nl.org/paste
[05:18] <pygi> or something like that :P
[05:18] <stormchas3r> ty
[05:20] <stormchas3r> cbx33, is this img legible?
[05:22] <stormchas3r> omg
[05:22] <stormchas3r> cbx33, i fixed it
[05:22] <cbx33> nice one
[05:22] <cbx33> what was it?
[05:22] <stormchas3r> i had to do a 'ltsp-build-client'
[05:22] <stormchas3r> works flawlessly now
[05:22] <stormchas3r> ty again for your help
[05:23] <stormchas3r> pygi, there ya go, i could write about that, ;)
[05:23] <pygi> stormchas3r, hehe, we'll see, lol ^_^
[05:23] <pygi> But you'll surely write something, yes :)
[05:24] <stormchas3r> hahha
[05:24] <stormchas3r> ty
[05:24] <sbalneav> Morning all
[05:24] <stormchas3r> you guys rule
[05:24] <pygi> morning sbalneav 
[05:24] <bddebian> Heya sbalneav
[05:24] <stormchas3r> morn sbalneav 
[05:24] <sbalneav> ogra's halfway across the atlantic by now :)
[05:25] <pygi> sbalneav,  ^_^
[05:25] <stormchas3r> isnt there a way to see the clients desktops on the server?
[05:25] <pygi> sbalneav, I hope you're collecting ideas for that iscsi stuff since I have no clue about that :)
[05:25] <sbalneav> On his way to where we are.
[05:26] <pygi> stormchas3r, Student control panel I think ,perhaps not implemented yet
[05:26] <cbx33> pygi: nope it's not implemented yet
[05:26] <cbx33> will be in edgy +1
[05:26] <stormchas3r> gotcha
[05:26] <cbx33> we just ran clean out of time
[05:26] <stormchas3r> i cant wait
[05:26] <sbalneav> pygi: Yes, I'll be putting some thought to it over the next couple of days.  Now that I'm away from my Real Life job, and working on my true calling :)
[05:27] <pygi> sbalneav, nice, just so we have something at least ^_^ You'll be in MV, right?
[05:27] <sbalneav> MV?
[05:27] <sbalneav> Ah, Mountain view
[05:27] <pygi> sbalneav, the mountain view stuff :P
[05:27] <sbalneav> Yes, should be.
[05:28] <pygi> oki, nice
[05:28] <sbalneav> So long as sabdfl wants me back.  Hopefully I'm seen as adding value to the process :)
[05:28] <pygi> sbalneav, hehe ^_^
[05:29] <pygi> sbalneav, you're important for this whole "burning devices support on thin clients" :)
[05:29] <pygi> As said, I don't mean implementing this on my own ^_^
[05:29] <sbalneav> That and other things :)
[05:30] <pygi> yes :P
[05:30] <pygi> sbalneav, once you get time, I'd also like to familiarize you a bit with libisofs & libburn api
[05:31] <pygi> Don't want you to know nothing about it ^_^
[05:35] <paolo> Hi guys! I have a old cliend, it boots, but when it must go and show the graphic login it freezes (apparently). How do I check if it is still active? thank you
[05:35] <stormchas3r> RichEd, ty for the reply, i will be replying back to you shortly
[05:36] <RichEd> Thanks ... I see you dropped your nick caps :)
[05:37] <stormchas3r> ya, a little loud
[05:42] <stormchas3r> what other control apps are there else in edubuntu, ie, studentcontrol panel?
[05:46] <stormchas3r> i guess i am looking for the app that can lock down a student or session
[05:55] <stormchas3r> pygi, what are the other tools to install to lock or control the sessions?
[05:55] <pygi> stormchas3r, SCP :P
[05:56] <pygi> whats wrong with scp?
[05:56] <stormchas3r> nothing is wrong with it, i just remember there is something else to adminster the sessions
[05:57] <stormchas3r> like to state what the users can use
[05:57] <pygi> there are stuff like ControlAula, but I can't guarantee for quality of that
[05:57] <stormchas3r> gotcha
[05:59] <pygi> stormchas3r, I can guarantee for SCP ^_^
[05:59] <stormchas3r> not until edgy comes out right?
[06:00] <pygi> stormchas3r, right ^_^
[06:00] <stormchas3r> i have scp installed, but can only see what precesses are running
[06:00] <pygi> scp is in dapper also, but not so good :P
[06:00] <stormchas3r> i used something the other day, but cant remember what its name is.  I could limit what the students are able to use and such
[06:10] <RichEd> stormchas3r: check out the tuXlabs cookbook PDF ... they use & have developed a few additional management apps that are not in Edubuntu standard
[06:13] <stormchas3r> RichEd, ahhh yes,  thats it, ty
[06:15] <pygi> RichEd, ^_^
[06:18] <RichEd> :)
[06:36] <stormchas3r> fyi, it was called pessulus
[06:44] <cbx33> ping pygi 
[06:44] <pygi> poke cbx33, how may I help you? :)
[06:44] <cbx33> pygi, hehehe
[06:44] <pygi> sankarshan, pessulus? that isn't related to managing clients ^_^
[06:44] <pygi> stormchas3r, *
[06:45] <pygi> cbx33, no, really, why the pinging stuff? :)
[06:45] <cbx33> pygi, well pessulus is a little related
[06:45] <cbx33> as it is integrated into SCP now ;)
[06:45] <sankarshan> :)
[06:45] <pygi> cbx33, I know that, but stormchas3r said he wanna use pessulus instead of scp :)
[06:45] <pygi> sankarshan, sorry ^_^
[06:45] <cbx33> pygi, aobut these sounds
[06:46] <cbx33> I'm curious as to your thoughts ;)
[06:51] <stormchas3r> lol
[06:54] <pygi> stormchas3r, ofcourse it is ^_^
[06:57] <stormchas3r> lol
[06:59] <pygi> stormchas3r, just you laugh ^_^
[06:59] <stormchas3r> ?
[07:00] <stormchas3r> pygi, i was laughing at the face you made
[07:00] <pygi> ^_^
[07:00] <stormchas3r> ya that one
[07:01] <stormchas3r> ;)
[07:26] <LaserJock> cbx33: ping?
[07:33] <pygi> highvoltage, hm? :)
[07:33] <Petaris> heh, at least some one can sigh of relief
[07:34] <highvoltage> pygi: our local lug committed to a big space at the local futurex/equip/linuxworld/computer faire expo, but didn't haven any funding
[07:34] <highvoltage> and we just got confirmation from a company who will fund the space, 10 laptops, PC's, 2MB internet connection, t-shirts, and someother goodies
[07:35] <pygi> highvoltage, very nice ^_^
[07:35] <highvoltage> ^_^
[07:36] <Petaris> cool
[07:36] <pygi> highvoltage, will you present libburn? ^_^
[07:36] <LaserJock> doh
[07:36] <pygi> LaserJock, :)
[07:37] <LaserJock> I keep thinking you are pointing up or something :-)
[07:37] <highvoltage> hehe, I doubt it, we will have two freedom toasters, but they use cdrecord :/
[07:37] <pygi> LaserJock, lol :)
[07:37] <pygi> highvoltage, heh :'(
[07:39] <pygi> highvoltage, next year you shall inform me, then I'll come there and make them use libburn :P By that time libburn should rock even more ^_^
[07:39] <highvoltage> pygi: there's still two weeks left ;)
[07:39] <pygi> highvoltage, nah, libburn isn't ready for dvd burning without my hacks anyway
[07:40] <pygi> next year it will be..
[07:41] <pygi> k, I'm about to run now
[07:41] <pygi> enjoy all
[07:42] <bddebian> Later pygi
[07:42] <highvoltage> bye py	
[07:42] <highvoltage> I mean...
[07:42] <highvoltage> bye pygi!
[07:57] <cbx33> LaserJock, pong
[08:00] <LaserJock> cbx33: did you or ogra fix the SCP deps?
[08:00] <cbx33> I havn't fixed them
[08:00] <cbx33> as I only knew yesterday there was something wrong
[08:00] <LaserJock> hmm, I wonder when ogra will be online?
[08:02] <cbx33> don;t know
[08:17] <Burgwork> LaserJock, ogra is flying to the us for the LTSP summit
[08:59] <LaserJock> Burgwork: yeah, I just though maybe he was already there
[11:04] <pygi> hey ho Amaranth ^_^