=== jono [n=jono@88-107-5-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === pips1_ is reading LaserJock's wiki page [12:16] ah, you wrote the UbuntuScientists page! excellent! I had that printed out :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [12:19] well, I worked on it [12:19] I run MOTU Science [12:21] ic [12:21] you also do documentation... [12:21] mhm [12:21] wrote the Ubuntu Packaging Guide [12:22] that's for MOTU's I assume? [12:22] people wanting to become MOTUs [12:22] ah === pips1_ goes and looks for it [12:23] help.ubuntu.com [12:23] ah, you also got it onto lulu.com [12:24] mhm [12:25] looks very concise [12:25] it's a work in progress ;-) === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [12:27] well, it looks like you can read it in little time, but learn what it takes to do packaging... :-) === stormchas3r [n=stormcha@c-68-80-182-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:29] Chapters like How to Deal with Feature Requests, How to deal with suggestions for changing defaults, ... excellent!! [12:30] I really think that concise pointers like this are needed to make it easier for people who want to contribute. [12:33] LaserJock: I only discovered the "previous/up/next" wiki navigation quite recently... was that available since a long time? [12:36] hmm === pips1_ is searching the wiki for how to enable the wiki "previous/up/next" nav [12:37] I don't think it has it [12:37] ?? [12:37] so how does that work? === pips1_ learns about wiki subpages [12:42] does edubuntu use a diff repo than ubuntu, or is there any alternate repos for edubuntu? [12:42] nope [12:42] it's all the same [12:42] as with Xubuntu and Kubuntu [12:42] roger, i was just checking [12:47] LaserJock, so how is the nice formatting of 'help.ubuntu.com' achieved? I don't want to take up your time... is there a documentation newbie guide, where I could read about this? [12:47] well, formating of what exactly? [12:48] there are 2 sections [12:48] one is the shipped docs [12:48] those are the 5.10 and 6.06 tabs [12:48] and the Community tab is the doc wiki [12:48] well, in help.ubuntu.com, you get those nice icons of the note, tip, alerts, etc [12:48] ahh [12:48] that's docbook [12:48] XML [12:49] ok, I understand [12:49] we turn it into HTML and pdf [12:49] so people start drafting in the wiki, but often work shifts to docbook ? [12:50] much of it is docbook to start with [12:50] what tools are used to edit docbook? [12:50] but the documentation team had a Summer of Code project that produced a wiki->docbook converter [12:50] vim, emacs, gedit, kwrite :-) [12:50] wow, nice one [12:51] it's pretty easy to pick up [12:51] they all support the 'docbook' format?! wow [12:51] it's pretty standard [12:52] I mean, is there highlighting or even autocompletion for docbook syntax? [12:53] yeah === pips1_ googles for emacs docbook support [12:53] what do you use? [12:54] nxml-mode is good for emacs [12:54] pretty much all of them at one point or another [12:55] I haven't used text editors much at all [12:56] brb [12:56] I can use emacs in a very *basic* way if I have to, but I never really got to grips with vi [12:56] oops === BDahl [i=BDahl@71-32-23-161.blng.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:59] Hello! [12:59] is anybody around to help me with my printing issues? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === BDahl [i=BDahl@71-32-23-161.blng.qwest.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEDC7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:04] ah, ubuntu-book.css is the ubuntu-docbook style sheet, i see === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-227-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [01:07] LaserJock: are most of the documentation "books" written by a single person? is work divided up into chapters always? how often does it happen that several people colaborate on a single chapter? ... from your experience... [01:07] Bdahl, whats the problem [01:07] Bdahl left already [01:08] pips1_, not all doc book are written by one person. People do colaborate on one chapter if they think they can work together, and make it better. [01:08] dang [01:08] more minds are better that one [01:09] pygi: do they use collaborative editors (gobby) at all? [01:09] pips1_, yup ^_^ [01:09] or is it more a case of alternating writing / reviewing / re-writing, etc [01:09] pips1_, depends [01:10] I just had a look at gobby recently. can't wait to try it out for some collaborative writing :-) [01:11] pips1_, it is very cool [01:11] there is going to be a UWN hackfest tonight, so feel free to join in [01:11] pips1_, what you wanna write ? ^_^ [01:11] Burgwork, UWN? remind me pls :) [01:13] yeah, ogra mentioned it earlier, what is UWN? === stormchas3r is getting jealous, ;) [01:15] why? [01:15] idk, lol [01:15] heh [01:16] is there a demo gobby channel i can try? [01:16] stormchas3r: let me know if you find one [01:16] pygi, Ubuntu Weekly News [01:16] Burgwork, o, right :) [01:16] pips1_, i will [01:16] stormchas3r, there will be my UWN server up in about 1 hour or so [01:17] ack, I will be in bed, me thinks [01:17] how will we know the host and port? [01:17] lol [01:17] yes, the UWN #14 page will list it [01:17] #ubuntu-marketing for helping out [01:17] pips1_, did you get an error when you run sudo gobby? [01:17] gotcha [01:18] pygi, i created a lauchpad acct about a week ago [01:18] stormchas3r, good ^_^ [01:18] :) [01:18] pips1_, I'm willing to give you some gobby insights if you wait ^_^ [01:20] pygi stop tempting me :-) [01:20] gobby is just a collaboration channel? [01:21] gobby is an application [01:21] ya, i have it running [01:21] right :) [01:21] gobby is an application that allows real time collaboration [01:21] kind of like this [01:21] irc [01:22] yeah, but I can edit what you said ;-) [01:22] o nice [01:23] Burgwork, are we allowed to join the session and watch? [01:23] I'm sure we can [01:23] pips1_, nice [01:23] pips1_, what time is it over there? [01:23] swiss, right? === pips1_ wonders if there has been any trolling and such in a gobby session yet [01:24] hehe [01:24] lol [01:24] stormchas3r, of course [01:24] great [01:24] pips1_, given I control the session, I can kick people out [01:24] 1:24 am [01:24] gotcha [01:24] Burgwork: interesting === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [01:25] http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6152/screenshottn4.png === pips1_ goes to find that newsletter for the link [01:25] anythoughts how to fix that? [01:27] yeah, I got the same message too [01:27] weird [01:27] *** WARNING *** Please fix your application to use the native API of Avahi! [01:27] ack [01:27] stormchas3r, ignore pls :) [01:28] kk [01:28] will do [01:28] Zeroconf is about discovering devices on your network automatically [01:28] you will propably not need it, I suspect [01:29] only if we were on the same subnet as Burgwork [01:29] ;) [01:29] pips1_, let me know if you find the info to join the channel [01:30] ok [01:30] that "student control panel" is one amazing tool [01:31] oh, you installed it' [01:31] ? [01:31] o yea [01:31] getting ready to get a lab up and running in my work [01:32] you are using edgy?! [01:32] dapper [01:32] y [01:33] pips1_: sorry was afk [01:33] pips1_: most docs are sort of "led" by one or 2 people [01:33] stormchas3r: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies [01:33] kk [01:33] but lots of people contibute [01:34] LaserJock: tx [01:34] nice pips1_ [01:34] stormchas3r: so student control panel is available in dapper? [01:34] in universe I think [01:35] but that must be the old version, surely... [01:35] yes, i searched synaptic for 'student' and it was there [01:35] amazing gui [01:36] we use synchoneyes in our schools and this will be a huge benefit [01:38] pips1_, here ya go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StudentControlPanelCompletion?highlight=%28control%29%7C%28student%29 [01:40] stormchas3r: thanks [01:40] I know what it want to do, but I can't wait to see it live ;-) [01:41] *wants [01:42] it's in edgy [01:42] new version is much better, mostly thanks to cbx33 ;) === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [01:43] is it available in knot-3? from what ogra said, it takes some workarounds to get knot-3 to run... [01:44] so it doesnt work in dapper then? [01:44] Burgwork: do you edit UWN *in-place* ?! in the wiki? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14?action=edit ) [01:45] with gobby, I mean === pips1_ still marvels about how this real-time collaborative editing thang will work [01:46] patience my friend [01:46] :) [01:46] yeah, just 15 mins to go [01:46] lol === stormchas3r feels the same [01:47] I'm soooo excited! tatata dada dum dum [01:47] :) [01:47] lol === Unix_n_Coffee [n=chris@69.177.37.65] has joined #edubuntu [01:48] nice [01:48] welcome chris [01:48] well thank you [01:48] how is everyone doing today? [01:48] unix and cofee, nice mix === Unix_n_Coffee got to make our wifes to make the coffee ! [01:48] lol [01:49] cream and sugar please [01:49] ohh its brewing === Unix_n_Coffee smells Delicious !! hazelnut ;) [01:49] :) [01:50] so what brings me in here... [01:50] hehe [01:50] neeeeice [01:50] :) === Unix_n_Coffee stormchas3r is my buddy everyone [01:50] :) [01:50] this is the edubuntu channel and these guys devote themselves to ubuntu in education [01:50] wow [01:50] ya [01:50] is that true guys? [01:51] dont speak for themselves rob [01:51] ;) [01:51] ha [01:51] yup [01:51] pips1 what country? [01:51] ch [01:51] switzerland [01:51] chaina?! [01:51] switzerland! [01:51] switz, nice [01:51] impressed [01:51] :) [01:51] ping Unix_n_Coffee [01:52] pips1_, do we know the channel yet? [01:52] pong stormchas3r [01:52] stormchas3r: nope [01:52] doh [01:52] so rob is this another good friend you met on IRC? [01:52] everyone i am chris [01:53] :) im part of opensource! [01:53] who? [01:53] pips1_ [01:53] Burgwork is still around, he promised to let us know [01:53] just met him, ;) [01:53] kk [01:53] pips1_ where you from? [01:53] ch [01:53] :) [01:53] china! [01:54] exactly [01:54] amazing :)) [01:54] Unix_n_Coffee, there having a newsletter meeting soon, and we are going to use gobby and watch and learn === Unix_n_Coffee good morning [01:54] cool [01:54] :) we all net to make a good newspaper article! [01:54] :) or some sort of article [01:54] lol === Unix_n_Coffee any volunteers ? [01:55] :) [01:55] rob not a lot of people are talking in here! [01:55] come on people! [01:55] i know, there busy [01:55] ohh ok [01:56] so linux in education [01:56] :) [01:56] i was thinking rob ;) [01:56] guess what i was thinking [01:56] ... want to take a guess [01:57] sure [01:57] US is all microosoft basiclly what would bill say about linux taking over! will microsoft be opensource [01:57] ;) [01:57] thats possible, [01:57] but i doubt it [01:57] bill gates would never go for it === Unix_n_Coffee microsoft allowing exe files to run in linux ... that would make my day [01:58] lol [01:58] :) [01:58] I'm fine with my alternatives tho :) [01:58] ya [01:58] Burgwork, any word? [01:58] my teacher was impressed about that picture made in gimp ;) [01:59] anyone like to see my teacher and me? :) [01:59] stormchas3r: now you are impatient! ;-) [01:59] hahahahaha [01:59] pips1_ hes just a pain to deal with [01:59] ;) just kidding sotrm [01:59] storm* [01:59] :) [02:00] dont slap me now! [02:00] ouch === spanky_ [n=robert@bas8-ottawa23-1177551226.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [02:00] or give me a spanky_ ;) === stormchas3r slaps Unix_n_Coffee with a "Official Ubuntu Book" [02:00] lol [02:00] haha === Unix_n_Coffee slaps you with a unix book 500 pages [02:00] Hello I know this isn't an edubuntu question directly but I was wondering if any of you know...ah a fun bunch cool [02:01] ;) start reading [02:01] sup spanky_ [02:01] you guys do alot of thin client work. I have a server set up which I connect to through XDMCP. Do you know of anyway to forward the audio along with the video? I have the video working perfectly but no sound === Unix_n_Coffee spacky_ whats a "fun bunch cool" [02:02] you guys do alot of thin client work. I have a server set up which I connect to through XDMCP. Do you know of anyway to forward the audio along with the video? I have the video working perfectly but no sound [02:02] rob questions ... im clueless [02:02] ditto that === Unix_n_Coffee rob is working on his certification spanky_ ;) [02:02] lol === Unix_n_Coffee slaps rob! get reading [02:03] ha [02:03] unix server in edubuntu [02:03] lol [02:03] pips1_, anything? [02:03] acually spanky_ me and rob here are new :) [02:03] ya [02:04] were clueless we only know ubuntu as of now [02:04] right [02:04] and rob suse 10.1 [02:04] ;) [02:04] the server people sent me over here. Said you might have some ideas cause they didn't have a clue [02:04] slap him for trying that [02:04] actually, 9.3 -10.1 [02:04] spanky_, on the phone, will help you in a sec [02:04] 9.3 wasnt bad rob was impressed [02:04] right [02:04] Burgwork: thank you [02:05] very polite guy :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [02:05] so spanky_ you for linux in education? [02:05] Unix_n_Coffee, you should install all edubuntu pkg's on your machine [02:06] i should and who has the list of the deb's [02:06] :| [02:06] there is the universe [02:06] there in* [02:06] ;) duo boot since ubuntu isbt taking up a lot [02:06] no need to [02:06] alright [02:06] Heya [02:06] :) [02:06] got the sources? [02:06] hey bddebian [02:06] :) [02:06] Hello stormchas3r [02:07] search synaptic [02:07] hi hbdebian [02:07] ok [02:07] for "edubuntu" [02:07] Heh, hello Unix_n_Coffee. Nice nick :-) [02:07] ok :) [02:07] ya it is [02:07] well thank you its registered ;) [02:08] mine is to, i just forget my pw === Unix_n_Coffee slaps rob start reading! [02:08] lol [02:08] edubuntu live? [02:08] nope [02:09] dont install from a disc [02:09] edubuntu server? [02:09] if you want [02:09] its in the package manager [02:09] ya === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [02:09] :| edubuntu live [02:09] edubuntu desktop? [02:09] i love the gartoon icons in edubuntu [02:09] all of it [02:09] you can always remove it [02:10] ok its downloading edubuntu desktop [02:10] :) [02:10] nice [02:10] so this will make me have a dual boot [02:10] nope [02:10] like for ex login screen... [02:10] session edubuntu? [02:10] if u want [02:10] great [02:11] ya [02:11] talk to you later in edubuntu [02:11] :) [02:11] :) [02:11] 7 mins [02:11] :) === Unix_n_Coffee bored [02:11] do u have add? [02:11] lol [02:12] whats add? [02:12] ADD [02:12] google it [02:12] ok [02:12] i know how to add lol [02:12] but ok [02:12] not math [02:12] no lol [02:12] how could you think that [02:13] rob!! [02:13] lol [02:13] how dare you [02:13] u add? [02:13] nope [02:13] ok then [02:13] what makes u think i am add lol [02:13] idk.i was kidding [02:13] ok === Unix_n_Coffee slaps rob with a 1,000 page unix book! === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has left #edubuntu ["qq"] [02:14] ouch [02:14] start reading [02:14] i upped it ;) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [02:14] guys, you might want to quiet down a little [02:14] ok [02:14] ill be good [02:14] kk [02:14] quite game starting.. now! [02:14] spanky_, Ubuntu uses LTSP, not XDMCP [02:15] in order to get sound, you need to flip a bit on your lts.conf [02:15] SOUND=Yes or True [02:15] ltsp? never heard of it before. All the settings I found in admin-> login window for x11 forwarding were XDMCP [02:16] in etc? [02:16] right, you need to install the ltsp package [02:16] and then do that [02:16] on both the client and server side? [02:16] http://edubuntu.org/GettingStarted [02:16] on the server [02:16] read that [02:16] ok thanks [02:16] finding you the sound page, just as ec [02:17] http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig [02:17] not sure if it makes a difference but I am not running the edubuntu distro but the main ubuntu distro [02:17] it will work exactly the same way [02:17] you will just get Ubuntu on the thin clients, not Edubuntu [02:18] anyway, I need to go home now. I will be back on irc in a flash [02:20] erm, Burgwork, what's your estimated time for the gobby edting? [02:20] Burgwork, is gobbly up? [02:20] about 45 minutes [02:20] kk [02:20] we are meeting about the UWN, then editin git [02:20] ack [02:20] ack? [02:21] I need to go to sleep [02:21] sweet dreams [02:21] thanks [02:21] have fun [02:21] you 2 [02:21] but maybe you want to ease of on all that slapping action ;-) [02:22] lol === pips1_ [n=philipp@253.159.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === spanky_ [n=robert@bas8-ottawa23-1177551226.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [02:29] still there burgwork? [02:30]