=== Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 14 Sep 07:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 14:00 UTC: LoCo | 19 Sep 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 20 Sep 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 20:00 UTC: Technical Board === SDPlissken [n=Snake@cpe-68-173-219-114.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:37] @now [12:37] Current time in Etc/UTC: September 13 2006, 22:37:29 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 8 hours 22 minutes === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:03] @now [01:03] Current time in Etc/UTC: September 13 2006, 23:03:46 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 7 hours 56 minutes === lguerra [n=lguerra@200.119.33.128] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === johnlittle [n=john@adsl-70-241-133-44.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486FB07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:06] hello everybody [03:06] Hi [03:07] hey Burgundavia [03:07] @now sydney [03:07] Current time in Australia/Sydney: September 14 2006, 11:07:08 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 5 hours 52 minutes [03:07] @schedule sydney [03:07] Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 14 Sep 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 Sep 00:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 22:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 22:00: Edubuntu | 22 Sep 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Sep 06:00: Technical Board [03:07] hmmm. [03:07] Hobbsee: we are meeting about the UWN [03:07] Burgundavia: cool, sorry, didnt know. i'll shut up :P [03:08] hiya Burgundavia [03:08] Hobbsee: oor Burgundavia failed to add it to fridge [03:08] Riddell: true that. [03:09] Riddell: the latter === nixternal_ grabs a soda BRB === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:10] sorry what was the gobby server? [03:10] ok, gobby session up [03:10] wow UWN meeting neat-o [03:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14 has the IP === jsgotangco dives in [03:11] I had an agenda and then I left it at work [03:11] so here goes: [03:11] the first thing I would like to raise is that of ending out plain text [03:12] sending rather [03:13] we do send out plain text [03:13] Burgundavia: i am going to do the additons for Kubuntu, unless of course Riddell beats me to it [03:13] we have had several requests [03:13] nixternal_: go ahead [03:14] no problem..i am adding the stuff from the knot 3 report anyways ;) [03:14] Burgundavia: request for? [03:14] thoughts on process? [03:15] I thought we already sent it out in plain text [03:15] we stopped last week [03:15] what happened last week? === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:15] nixternal_: screenshot of old and new gamma setup screen http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/gamma.png === JoseStefan [i=Stealth@246sdl30m49.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:16] WHOA === adamant1988 [n=adam@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:16] nice [03:16] oh, just a pointer to the wiki page [03:16] thx Riddell ! [03:17] ok, here I am... gosh you people need to keep me informed better === nixternal_ can't gobby in right now..sorry..im at class running off of a Live CD, and it says i am out of sudo apt-get spaceage ;) [03:17] nixternal_: it will go back to the wiki in a few hours [03:17] ok..cool [03:17] so, back to the first question [03:18] Could someone please pastebin the log of the meeting so far? [03:18] i might get on here in a second [03:18] Burgundavia: sending out the text rather than a link is much preferable, a link should be included of course for added image goodness [03:18] the issue is processing it to nice looking text [03:18] Riddell: +1 [03:18] currently we have some moinism that I would like to remove [03:18] the wiki text already looks decent [03:18] Burgundavia: that's ten minutes work apiece, I think [03:18] editing it for sanity isn't too hard before sending [03:19] Or we could even set up an automatic parser. [03:19] can somebody add how to do it on the the /Release page? [03:19] I just need somebody to either create a process or do it [03:19] auto parser? [03:19] oh [03:20] Burgundavia: i can do the "text" portion if need be [03:20] a volunteer? jenda? Riddell? [03:20] it is easy, plus kmail doesn't screw it up [03:20] ok, nixternal_ you are one [03:20] s/one/on/ [03:20] kool [03:20] copy, paste. easy [03:20] yup Riddell ;) [03:20] I want to get rid of some of the moinisms at the same time [03:20] kmail controls at 76 i think..so it is safe for all clients [03:20] Burgundavia: at three AM, I can't, but if it's still open tomorrow, I'll hop on it. [03:21] ok, we have volunteers for that [03:21] next topic: thoughts on the current layout? [03:22] I like it. [03:22] I want to break out the Distro specific stuff (Ubuntu, K, Edu) into the more general news, as I did with Riddell's stuff last week [03:22] Burgundavia: i like the current layout...my favorite of course was the layout that mgalvin did..however you have gotten close to emulating it..so i think it is good [03:22] nixternal_: how was mgalvins different? [03:22] a link, perhaps? [03:22] well, if the template hasn't changed, it is still there [03:23] the ones prior to 13 i believe, were just quick news blobs, which was cool...however, i think the new layout allows for "more" information to get out [03:23] the template has been signifcantly edited, but his old versions are there [03:23] ok [03:23] no biggy..this layout is good...the layout in between was ey [03:24] any other feedback on the current layout [03:24] ? [03:24] can I get a link? === JoseStefan [i=Stealth@246sdl30m49.codetel.net.do] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [03:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue6 [03:24] that is an old version [03:24] sorry, I've been so focused on my local efforts I haven't been involved with much in the team -_- [03:24] The one you have in Gobby is ok === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:24] ok..well right now we are UWN specific, so on-topic from this point on... [03:25] ok, plase provide feedback as needed ot hte marketing team [03:25] next topic [03:25] different people responsible for different pieces [03:25] actually one quick point [03:25] query about the newsletter... it's actually a newsletter right? like we send it out? [03:25] adamant1988: yes, to ubuntu-news [03:25] yes adamant1988 [03:25] poningru: go [03:26] I think the stuff for security updates, new bug fixes etc. [03:26] should go in the end [03:26] yes [03:26] well security updates are pretty important [03:26] ok... put the boring stuff smack dab in the front. [03:26] the LTS stuff? [03:26] more people will actually read it there. [03:26] well after the in the press stuff atleast [03:26] usually between releases though, there aren't that many "security" releases if i am in the right state of mind heree [03:27] so, move the LTS stuff to after the in the press stuff [03:27] we can put very critical bugs and stuff at the top just in case but we can put them generally near the end [03:27] we don't _want_ people to read boring stuff. [03:27] Burgundavia: yeah thats what I was thinking [03:27] and the security stuff? [03:27] jenda: unless you are hardcore, the security stuff is boring ;) [03:27] The technical things that the average user does not even understand should be at the bottom. [03:27] I was about to say what poningru said [03:27] we add *very* ciritical stuff at the top similar to our xorg experience [03:27] nixternal: it is, but don't judge my hard-core-ness ;) [03:28] but those come far between [03:28] jsgotangco: +1 [03:28] jenda: haha [03:28] yeah what jsgotangco said sounds good [03:28] so move the security and updates to below in the press? [03:28] Yes === poningru nods [03:28] yeah [03:28] poningru: can you make the edit to the template and 14? === poningru nods [03:29] shouldn't we list new packages in dapper-updates too? [03:29] next point: people doing stuff, assign or not? [03:29] Riddell: we do [03:29] or at least, we should be [03:30] do people feel that the current method of everybody editing everything works, or should we impose a bit more structure on it? [03:30] Burgundavia: i say we get people who want to help out and assign..in the past the "hey the marketing team has the UWN now, you can contribute" hasn't worked so good [03:30] Burgundavia: that would make sense if we can make sure there is always a person who knows the stuff in question - ie. a person who watches security updates anyway is a good bet - OTOH, I"m not sure if we can do that for every section. [03:30] perhaps there should be a section on community involvement? [03:30] but the current team has been doing an amazing job at the same time [03:30] adamant1988: yes, good idea [03:31] interesting projects that are happening, ways to help out, etc. [03:31] well i would say anyone diving in is a good thing, making contribution easier for new comers, but I think there should be at least 1 editorial contact who always oversees the stuff generally [03:31] adamant1988: +1 === john_little [n=john@adsl-65-69-221-68.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:31] jsgotangco: that would be me, currently [03:31] Lost my net..back [03:31] I have deliberately avoiding taking any title, however [03:31] Burgundavia: that's fine, it doesnt need one i think, just someone looking over would be fine [03:32] (title that is) [03:32] That way you can emphasis community involvement and spirit through the news letter. [03:32] if I say I am the "Release Manager", does that work? [03:32] it does. [03:32] that avoids the whole "chief editor" stuff [03:32] I don't see what's wrong with chief editor [03:32] Burgundavia: are you in charge of everything? [03:33] so long as you reliably take care of it each week (i.e. send it out or make sure someone else it sending it out) [03:33] adamant1988: mostly [03:33] Burgundavia: then your title should reflect that. [03:33] :) [03:33] I want to make certain I am "stepping above myself" in this [03:33] i think we can rely on Burgundavia taking care of it...he isn't going anywhere ;) [03:34] Burgundavia: every good organization and project needs a "go to man" [03:34] I do ;) But any name has the same problem. Let's just leave it at the good old meritocratic self, that whoever is at the time the person who takes care we have a UWN every now and then be the person who sends it out and thus checks it as the last... currently Corey... does that work? [03:34] johnlittle: you have been very active, thoughts? [03:34] surely. === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-244-56.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:34] I'm afraid I missed the discussion. Lost connectivity. [03:35] john_little: we were discussing roles [03:35] But you've been the guy getting UWN done so some kind of official maintainer/editor status is fine with me [03:35] we started off with general roles, but it quickly got to me and whether I should take a formal title (I am mixed on this) [03:36] Its a product and a product generally needs a lead [03:36] lets make it official [03:36] I think it is irrelevant to the UWN itself, and we might want to go back to the dilemma if we should assign roles to the sections of UWN [03:36] ok, other roles [03:37] yes, that [03:37] I wouldn't mind if people said "I want to the primary editor of X" [03:37] that actually sounds good but I think we should have people covering different sections of the community instead of the different sections of the UWN === nixternal_ wants to be the primary editor for Kubuntu, well secondary as Riddell would be primary [03:38] hmm [03:38] ok, that works === Riddell promotes nixternal_ to primary [03:38] ofcourse for things like bugs/ new apps in edgy it would have to be that one person [03:38] haha Riddell ;) [03:38] thanks! [03:38] promotions come quick around here [03:38] While Riddell himself rises to the rank of 'Supreme' [03:38] ;) === Rinchen laughs. [03:39] Burgundavia: i can help out with the security and bug stuff as well, since that is another part of my life i guess you could say [03:39] ok, that is good [03:39] Xubuntu? Edubuntu? === nixternal_ points at jsgotangco w/ Edubuntu [03:39] no please no [03:39] haha [03:39] im too busy at the moment with non-technical edubuntu work here [03:39] would somebody mind creating a /Contacts page to list all these people? [03:39] one of these days I will be concentrating a heck of lot more on Edubuntu [03:39] sure [03:40] lets leave the Xubuntu and Edubuntu stuff empty for now [03:40] press coverage? [03:40] john_little: you have done well on this, do you mind being the person that people contact about that? [03:40] someone who subscribed to google alerts [03:40] I can do that [03:40] just so everyone knows..even though I am considered the "Kubuntu" guy as well as Riddell, please feel free to input information as well..we may hack it a little, but if it is relevant, i am sure it will stay [03:40] john_little: +1 for press stuff [03:41] absolutely, I want to be clear that these roles don't preclude anybody else editing [03:42] we are more/less PoCs [03:42] further thoughts on this topic? [03:42] of course - these are only the people who are held guilty if the section is blank at release time.. [03:42] heh [03:43] Just the we probably need to reach out to the Edubuntu/Xubuntu folks and see if they want a point person for UWN [03:43] hey...how about adding a riddle or hacker game to each release? [03:43] see if people can crack it each week [03:43] those teams are too small and busy at the moment to have point persons [03:43] sudoku! [03:43] haha [03:43] ya..sudoku is my train game [03:43] I vote for sudokus [03:44] its just a few minutes of work each week. Can't hurt to ask. [03:44] I don't think we need a sudoku in there, really... [03:44] jenda: I was kidding :P [03:44] ;) [03:44] good [03:44] i wasn't ;) [03:44] haha [03:44] Not about the community section though. [03:44] ok, any further serious topics [03:44] ? [03:45] release days, and the latest time to have it complete? [03:45] I think that would be nice to have, I would like to tell people where they can help get involved. [03:45] arr? [03:45] adamant1988: that is everywhere already [03:45] Burgundavia: Are you going to edit the wiki to reflect this new structure? [03:45] we don't need to do old work over and over and oever and over again [03:45] nixternal_: so? condense it and put it in one place [03:45] john_little: the new people, yes [03:46] adamant1988: that horse is dead, quit beating it ;) [03:46] I'mt alking about all kinds of projects, not just marketing team stuff [03:46] somebody needs to create a /Contacts [03:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Contacts ? [03:46] Burgundavia: sorry working on it [03:46] mom called [03:46] kool..thanks poningru [03:46] poningru: thanks for everything [03:47] poningru: never apologize for actually doing something :) [03:47] ok, shall we wrap up this worldwind meeting and get some hacking on the UWN done? [03:47] hey Burgundavia what are the release days? [03:47] saturday or sunday? [03:47] Saturday, 7am UTC currently (which is midnight my time) [03:47] make that Sunday, 7am UTC [03:47] we need to have a set schedule..just in case something comes up with anyone..we can say, here it is set in stone [03:48] unless the wiki dies... grumble [03:48] haha ya [03:48] cool [03:48] if the wiki dies in the future, maybe we can fire up a quick gobby session, or suffer through a pastebin [03:48] A reliable release date and quick punt to the Fridge gives everyone the perception that UWN has it's act together. [03:48] gobby it will be [03:48] yes [03:49] does canonical still have their servers up for gobby? [03:49] I say we name nixternal wiki maintainer so when it dies we can blame him [03:49] Burgundavia: sorry what was your official title again? [03:49] Burgundavia: Chief Editor? [03:49] im sick of maintaining the wiki [03:49] Chief Editor was what I think everybody agreed on [03:49] is he going with a title? [03:49] ok..kool [03:49] darn, there goes the Marketing Team's wiki guy... [03:49] yes, I will take the title [03:50] aye aye chief === Rinchen still hosts the marketing team's SOBBY server. [03:50] ;p [03:50] another bullet on ye olde resume [03:50] +1 on Nixternal (if I get to vote) :-) [03:50] whoa...+1 for what? [03:51] that you get the title and the blame :-) [03:51] being the wiki blame guy [03:51] don't vote me any more..i have a doc freeze to contend with tonight [03:51] ok, if we are done, lets move back to -marketing [03:51] nixternal_: what's the freeze? [03:52] last piece, I need somebody to write up the results of the meeting for the mailing list [03:52] normally I would do it myself, but I am triple-booked tonight === jenda runs... towards bed. [03:52] doc team has a freeze within 24 hours [03:52] i have to finish release notes and knot 3 [03:52] everyone seems to be busy... [03:52] Give me 2 hours Nix and I'll be free to help you if you want it [03:52] I'll do it then, Burgundavia [03:53] jenda: thanks [03:53] thx Rinchen, in 2 hours i will be home as well [03:53] But give me the entire log - I came at 1:15 [03:53] thank you everybody for coming out [03:53] nixternal_: for all edgy docs [03:53] ? [03:53] the UWN rocks thanks to all of you! [03:53] yes Riddell [03:53] now move off the channel [03:53] haha [03:53] Thank you for setting a meeting time we could all make it to ;) === adamant1988 [n=adam@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Find] === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:54] :-) [03:54] 5 hours until distro meeting, time to snooze [03:54] aww === poningru hugs Riddell [03:55] g'nite Riddell === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [03:56] heh === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8EAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === john_little [n=john@adsl-65-69-221-68.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.226] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-244-56.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-23-177.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54954ABF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:31] @schedule us/central [07:31] Schedule for US/Central: 14 Sep 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 09:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 07:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 07:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 15:00: Technical Board [07:32] @schedule [07:32] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 14 Sep 07:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 14:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 12:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 12:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 20:00: Technical Board === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === xav1er [n=ubuntu@j79005.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === xav1er is now known as balthus === vincent_ [n=vincent@abo-241-198-68.ang.modulonet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:54] @schedule US/Pacific [07:54] Schedule for US/Pacific: 14 Sep 00:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 07:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 05:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 05:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 13:00: Technical Board === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:05] hey mdz. another hour. [08:06] zzZzzZzZ [08:06] but i wanna watch ;) [08:06] etc != utc, or? [08:08] @schedule chicago [08:08] Schedule for America/Chicago: 14 Sep 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 09:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 07:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 07:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 15:00: Technical Board [08:08] ^^ where kwwii should be ;) [08:08] hehe...no doubt [08:08] 18 Sep 09:00: LoCo [08:08] I hope Ubuntu Chicago isn't expected at that one [08:08] oh wait..we will be there..that is 09:00 our time ;) === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:11] @schedule Rome [08:11] Schedule for Europe/Rome: 14 Sep 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 Sep 16:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 14:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 14:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 22:00: Technical Board [08:11] hi fabbione [08:12] lo === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === alef0 [n=alef0@M910P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === GNAM [n=GNAM@host199-235.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm120.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm120.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === visit0r [n=visit0r@movietron.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [n=egon@p54A66CAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === freemanen [n=freemane@c83-248-210-232.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1DF2.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === doko [n=doko@smile.swt.cs.tu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:49] *yawns& === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 18 Sep 14:00 UTC: LoCo | 19 Sep 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 20 Sep 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 26 Sep 20:00 UTC: Technical Board === dholbach stifles a yawn too === fabbione is too tired to yawn === Fujitsu doesn't yawn. === heno [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:54] hi === JoseStefan [i=Stealth@246sdl30m49.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:57] morning [08:57] Good morning [08:57] morning [08:57] good morning === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:58] morning === mvo caught a bad cold and feels pretty bad this morning === Mithrandir waves === pitti skips the seat beside mvo then [08:58] mvo: get well soon! [08:58] morning === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:59] ping -b === dholbach hugs mvo [08:59] thanks pitti! === mvo hugs dholbach [08:59] mdz: 'no such option' :( [08:59] hi === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:00] pitti: use the other ping :) [09:00] pitti: -b -> broadcast [09:01] fabbione: I guessed so :) [09:01] doko,sfllaw,BenC,ogra: ping [09:01] hi Riddell [09:01] fabbione: I use fping for the more 37117 stuff [09:01] BenC is not online afaict [09:02] doko is at OOOCon? or something [09:02] I spoke to doko today and he said he would be here [09:02] ogra is flying to the US today [09:02] to LTSP conf [09:02] fabbione: still online [09:03] mdz: Pong. [09:03] good morning === timfrost [n=tim@222-155-218-184.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Keybuk yawns [09:03] missing BenC [09:04] seb128: will you start us off this morning? [09:04] Done: [09:04] - bug triage, bug triage, bug triage [09:04] - bug day [09:04] - caugth up with desktop-list mails lag [09:04] - VAC [09:04] - desktop CD testing [09:04] . [09:04] To do: [09:04] - keep triaging bugs and fix some of them too [09:04] seb128: your Karma will hit 10M very soon, I guess :) [09:04] seb128: do you feel older? [09:05] mdz: no, I feel wiser though :p [09:05] haha === dholbach hugs seb128 [09:05] ;) [09:05] pitti: right ;) [09:05] seb128: did you test whether your usplash problem is fixed? [09:05] pitti: I'm first now, waouh :p [09:06] mdz: yep, works fine now, I let mjg59 know when I tried [09:06] ok, cool, thanks [09:06] np [09:06] infinity: next? [09:06] Done [09:06] * Assisted with the Knot-3 release (ongoing), including archive admin tasks and chasing up a mess of related soyuz issues. [09:06] * General liasing with Team Soyuz regarding bugs affecting distro recently/currently. [09:06] * General buildd mangling and processing. [09:06] * Bootstrapped fpc for MOTU. [09:06] * Finished stacked-livefs, but didn't roll it out in production for fear of hiseously breaking the knot-3 release with the (inevitable) bugs. Will roll it out for dailies after knot-3 is out. === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:07] To do [09:07] * Roll out stacked-livefs [09:07] * Get ddeb exports working with pitti [09:07] * Lots of bug triaging and fixing [09:07] Err, "other random faff" in the "done" section, like a php5 upstream bump, etc. [09:07] infinity: did you do the seed changes for larger-livefs? === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:07] infinity: oh, cool, you did the PHP merge? thanks [09:07] mdz: No, haven't done the new seed, though I can commit it later. [09:08] pitti: Yeah, it's in queue/unapproved, waiting for knot-3 to fly. [09:08] \o/ [09:08] infinity: have you and Kamion worked out what changes need to be made there? [09:08] infinity: (psst, it's flights that flew, knots are tied, or something.) [09:08] Mithrandir: Thpt. [09:08] Not another knot joke. [09:09] They're totally knot funny at this time in the morning [09:09] mdz: Should be a straightforward additoin to the structure to place it above live. [09:09] mdz: I'll test with germinate to make sure I'm not on crack, of course, and pass it by Colin before I blow up the world. [09:10] infinity: ok, that's well behind schedule now, please make sure that it lands immediately after knot-3 === infinity nods. [09:10] infinity: thanks [09:10] doko: next [09:11] status: [09:11] - edgy-toolchain: implemented [09:11] - edgy-toolchain+1: no status change, opening of edgy+1 needed, [09:11] test rebuilds of the archive needed. [09:11] - python-roadmap: beta available, need to go over the list of [09:11] application packages in main. [09:11] - python2.5: beta available, extension packages are built for [09:11] 2.4 and 2.5, rc2 in the archive; needs an update for the final [09:11] 2.5 release. will not be the default python in edgy. [09:11] - java-roadmap: good progress, classpath-0.92 based gcj in the [09:11] archive, packages providing jni bindings built natively, built [09:11] the core java packages as native (-gcj) packages. [09:11] - openoffice.org-l10n: delayed [09:11]