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yogurtthewisehi there12:14
yogurtthewiseI just managed to create a package for moc 2.4 for ubuntu, compiles perfectly and package builds with no prob. what should I do to see it included?12:15
yogurtthewisethere's an unofficial deb pkg I started with, it's very easy, but it diverges from debian repos, so dunno if it can actually be accepted by ubuntu12:15
yogurtthewisethere are lots of important improvements over the available 2.3, that's why I'm mentioning it12:15
Nafalloit can, but what is the problem with the current debian packaging then?12:16
yogurtthewiseI'm not a bleeding edge fan or something12:16
Nafallowhere few packages diverge from debian that way see... those who does have good reasons12:16
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yogurtthewiseI'm actually wrong, sorry12:17
yogurtthewise2.4.x is available in unstable12:17
sistpotyyogurtthewise: and is in edgy as well ;)12:17
yogurtthewiseewhehe, noticed it too late... it wasnt available in dapper so I thought it wasnt in debian either, sorry12:18
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yogurtthewiseit's been a nice exercise to port the one I found, tho :)12:18
yogurtthewiseso I guess the question is rather: why isnt dapper shipping 2.4.0?12:19
yogurtthewise *** 2.3.3-1 012:19
yogurtthewise        500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Package12:19
yogurtthewisethat's apt-cache policy moc12:19
ajmitchbecause dapper's upstream version freeze was some time in january12:19
Nafallowe are working on edgy now. dapper is frozen since june.12:20
yogurtthewiseI see, thanks12:20
ajmitchso nothing would have been automatically synced since at least then :)12:20
Nafalloehrm, totally frozen, gone stable etc... :-)12:20
ajmitchNafallo: yes, but the freeze was even earlier :)12:20
ajmitchpeople often ask why the latest & shiniest didn't make it into dapper :)12:20
Nafalloajmitch: yea, but that wasn't TOTALLY frozen ;-)12:21
ajmitchjust slushy12:21
ajmitchanyway, brb12:21
huats_I am trying to creaete a .deb I have a file debian/pyversion that contains 2.4- and during the sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc it keeps searching for python2.512:26
huats_does anybody know what can I do ?12:26
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imbrandonajmitch, you got a sec ?01:32
ajmitchimbrandon: not really, what's up?01:34
imbrandonwhy cant this be removed , or is there a was to force it ?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2338501:35
ajmitchimbrandon: there's a bug open on it, look that up01:36
ajmitchok, bug isn't open..01:36
ajmitchbug 4284701:36
UbugtuMalone bug 42847 in mldonkey "mldonkey-server fails to uninstall" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4284701:36
ajmitchor related closed bugs01:37
imbrandonkk01:37
=== ajmitch really hasn't had anything to do with mldonkey, so no real reason to ask me :)
Nafallo:-(01:41
Nafallos/\(/\)/01:41
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bddebianHeya gang02:06
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superm1heya bddebian, thanks for the Revu.  appreciate it02:07
bddebianHeh, hello Nafallo02:07
bddebiansuperm1: NP02:07
Nafallo:-)02:07
sistpotyhey bddebian02:13
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CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/gocr02:43
CarlFKI just built a .deb from the .41 source - who should I tell that it works ?02:43
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zulhey Hobbsee03:05
Hobbseehey zul03:05
ajmitchHobbsee!03:07
Hobbseeajmitch!03:07
ajmitchhi03:07
TheMusoHey Hobbsee, ajmitch.03:09
ajmitchhello TheMuso03:09
Hobbseehey TheMuso03:10
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bddebianBelated hello sistpoty03:30
bddebianGah03:30
bddebianHeya Hobbsee, ajmitch03:31
Hobbseehey bddebian03:31
ajmitchhi03:33
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jamadagnihello anyone here?04:03
jamadagnican i ask for help on local repos here?04:04
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ispikedwhere can I report a bug about a package dependency issue?07:15
imbrandonlaunchpad.net07:16
ispikedhrmph...07:16
imbrandonwhats the problem ?07:17
imbrandonerr what package07:17
ispikedwell, it's weird. it's libgnomevfs2-0.07:18
ispikedon packages.ubuntu.com it's showing that 2.14.1-0ubuntu8 is the latest version, but in synaptic it's showing ubuntu1 for me.07:18
ispiked(trying to install the -dbg package so I can get symbols...)07:18
ispikedand when I install the -dbg package I get "libgnomevfs2-0 (=2.14.1-0ubuntu8) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed07:19
ajmitchmake sure you have dapper-updates/dapper-security enabled for all components (universe included)07:20
ajmitchthough it appears to be in main07:21
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imbrandonispiked, that get you fixed up ?07:30
ispikedimbrandon: maybe...07:30
imbrandonk07:30
imbrandonjust checkin07:30
imbrandon;)07:30
ispikednow it's showing version 2.14.2-0... instead of 2.14.1-0...07:32
ispikedand that's not even listed on packages.ubuntu.com... :S07:32
sethpackages is out of date often07:33
ispikedgood to know!07:33
lifelessuse launchpad, its always up to date07:33
sethyep07:33
ispikedI hate launchpad's UI...07:34
ispikedhow would I do that starting from launchpad.com?07:34
ispikederr.. .net07:34
ispikedhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu ?07:35
imbrandonhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+search?text=libgnomevfs2-007:35
lifelesshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+search?text=libgnomevfs207:35
lifelessfirst hit07:36
imbrandonnotice .2-0 is in the updates pocket07:36
lifelesshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs207:36
imbrandon;)07:36
ispikedcool.07:36
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imbrandonidk if p.u.c does -updates07:37
StevenKimbrandon: I doubt it07:37
imbrandonheya StevenK07:37
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imbrandonhehe07:38
imbrandonok whom can i get to eyeball a package for me on revu so i dont upload a broken^stupid mistake on my first go at a lib pkg07:39
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StevenKimbrandon: Shoot yourself in the foot now, it saves time.07:40
imbrandonhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3109  ajmitch ran revu-tools on it so it should be easy ;)07:40
imbrandonStevenK, hahaha07:40
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welshbytegood morning07:45
imbrandonmoins welshbyte07:45
welshbyteello imbrandon07:46
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Kagougood morning07:57
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Kagouhey raphink08:03
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raphinkyop Kagou08:05
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superm1hey are any MOTU's around that could do a REVU?08:36
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dholbachgood morning08:45
FujitsuMorning.08:46
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dholbachhi Fujitsu08:48
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xerxas_Hi10:29
FujitsuHi.10:30
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jamadagnihello anyone here?10:39
FujitsuNo.10:42
jamadagnihaha10:42
jamadagniok i have a q10:42
FujitsuFire away.10:42
jamadagniif the same package is found in two repositories, one signed and the other unsigned,10:42
jamadagnithen apt-get will it take the signed packages?10:43
jamadagnior the unsigned/10:43
FujitsuIt will take whatever is newer, then whatever appears first in sources.list.10:43
jamadagniif that's so, then kdegames_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu3_all.deb is newer than kdegames_3.5.2-0ubuntu3_all.deb, right/10:46
FujitsuHm... I know little about package `epochs', as I believe the colon represents.10:47
FujitsuI think it should be newer, yes.10:49
jamadagniok leave that.10:55
jamadagnii have a local repo with tidy and libtidy. these are also present on the remote repos10:57
jamadagniand the local repo is configured before the remote repo in sources.list10:58
jamadagnibut still apt-get goes and gets the remote file10:58
jamadagniwhy?10:58
jamadagnii remove the remote repo from the list11:00
jamadagniand then i try to isntall,11:00
jamadagnithen it installs the file from the local repo11:00
FujitsuAre the versions in the local repository newer?11:04
jamadagnisame version11:04
FujitsuHm.11:05
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xerxas__in edgy , python package should use 2.4 , right ?11:24
Adri2000hub: are you here ?11:27
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z\hello12:29
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xopher,12:41
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beligumHello everybody, got another question \o/01:25
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beligumWhat do I do to change a package name? I mean, what files should I edit? (just debian subdir, or anything else?)01:26
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phanaticgood afternoon01:50
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raphinkyop ledroide02:57
ledroideyop raphink02:57
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seth|awaybeligum, debian/control needs changed (re: your earlier question)03:09
beligumthx, got that03:09
beligumapparently, changelog too03:09
beligumthat's where the problem resided03:10
seth|awayyeah, if you'd already added the changelog entry03:10
beligumseth, you an experienced packager?03:11
beligumCan you take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3117 ?03:11
beligumThis is my third revision, it's driving me crazy, never thought packaging would be so hard ...03:12
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reggaemanu_hi03:56
reggaemanu_i'ml new to the universe contributors world, where i have to upload packages? is it on upload.ubuntu.com like described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads ?03:57
zul!revu03:59
ubotuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU03:59
reggaemanu_ok, so on revu.tauware.de, thanks zul, i've read a lots of wepage about revu on the wiki but not that one04:01
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AnAntany MOTU here ?04:16
AnAntor admin, I dunno04:17
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Adri2000can someone help me to fix a diff.gz problem : "-please avoid having config.guess and config.sub in the diff." (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3071) ? what's the best way to fix that ?04:24
sladenAdri2000: at the top of each patch can you say what/why that patch is doing04:27
sladenAdri2000: and in the changelog from   Initial Release with04:27
sladen + MP3 constructor naming fix (doesn't compile without)04:27
sladen + BitmapSlider fix, control has XXX YYY bug otherwise04:28
sladen + Also fix Bitmap Button class to solve ZZZ issue04:28
geserAdri2000: you could move the shiped files out of the way, copy those from autotools-dev and undo it when you are finished04:28
Adri2000sladen: ok04:29
sladen + Fix libqt include directory04:30
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Adri2000geser: look at the debian/rules, there are a few lines added by dh_make which copy these files config.{sub,guess}04:31
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geserAdri2000: as you copy the new config.{sub,guess} you are changing them (from the view of diff) -> they are included in your diff.gz04:35
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geserif you do a more intelligent approach and backup the original files and restore them afterwards they aren't changed anymore when diffing04:36
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volkerhi04:37
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Adri2000geser: seems that i don't have the original files, because debuild already copied the new ones04:40
VolkAi have a question regarding merging of debian packages: yesterday a nice guy from this channel looked into merging the zeroc-ice package on my request and filed a merge request. could someone give me an estimate how long this will take to get into the distribution? (day, week?)04:41
geser!info zeroc-ice edgy04:41
ubotuzeroc-ice: Metapackage to install all Ice related packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-4 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 64 kB04:41
VolkAcool bot :-)04:42
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geserzeroc-ice 3.1.0 got uploaded but is sitting currently in the NEW queue04:42
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VolkAok, so i guess i can upgrade to get it in a matter of hours?04:44
geserunlikely04:45
geserthey must be checked because they introduced a new binary package04:45
geserit can take several days till an archive admin reviews them04:46
VolkAok, thanks for the info!04:46
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Nafallogeser: it's friday tomorrow ;-)04:47
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geserok than it may be a matter of hours :)04:48
VolkAcan i download the new binary packages from the new queue somewhere?04:49
MithrandirVolkA: no04:49
beligumCan I seduce someone to take a look at my libinstrudeo package: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=311904:50
VolkAhm, thats bad ... i need to have a server with this new release up and running till tomorrow ... ok, then i think i'll have fun compiling it myself :-)04:51
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NafalloVolkA: either that or talk nicely to the archive admins :-)04:55
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bddebianHeya gang05:03
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LutinHi05:20
Lutinis to possible to create two different packages libfoo and libfoo-dbg (with debug symbols) using cdbs ?05:21
azeemLutin: that is standard practise, many library packages do that05:21
Lutinazeem, and how can I do that ?05:23
azeemhave a look at some existing library packages done with CDBS05:23
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Lutinazeem, eg ?05:24
azeemI don't know off hand05:25
Lutinoh :(05:25
azeemLutin: just check some library's package Build-Depends for cdbs and see whether they build a debug package05:25
azeemyou should hit one soon enough05:25
Lutinazeem, ok , gonna try it05:27
azeemLutin: the GNOME libraries are mostly done with CDBS, except for the low-level ones (gtk+, glib, atk)05:28
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VolkAcu, and thanks for the help05:40
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[GuS] Hi people!06:27
[GuS] some could point me a link to see how to make binary - dev and docs package from source?06:27
bddebianhttp://help.ubuntu.com  and look at the Packaging Guide06:32
[GuS] yeah i know that one...06:32
bddebianOK, what else do you need?06:33
bddebianHave you looked at the Debian New Maintainers Guide?06:33
[GuS] i need to know wich is necesary to make -dev and -doc packages... besides binary one...06:34
Gloubiboulga.install files :)06:35
bddebianAye :-)06:35
[GuS] ?06:35
bddebian[GuS] : Make your package entries in debian/control  foo-dev and foo-doc with the appropriate info06:36
[GuS] ok06:36
bddebianThen you can make foo-dev.install and foo-doc.install files06:36
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bddebianslomo: You around by any chance?07:12
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AnAntping lionelp07:18
AnAntlionelp: I made an elinks-full package: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=310607:19
AnAntbddebian: thanks for the REVU07:20
bddebianAnAnt: NP07:21
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AnAntbddebian: does that mean that you don't have any other comments about freedict ?07:21
bddebianAnAnt: Nope.  Fix the version and I'll advocate.07:21
AnAntbddebian: thanks07:21
bddebianSure07:22
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AnAntbddebian: regarding elinks-full, how am I supposed to remove the autoconf files if they are in the orig tarball ?07:23
bddebianAnAnt: I believe you can just rm them in your clean target but don't quote me on that :-(07:24
Adri2000hub: i fixed what you asked for djplay : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3122, if you and someone else can take a look at it :)07:28
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AnAntmay I suggest something for the REVU tool ?08:16
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AnAntto make it possible to upload diffs only instead of having to re-upload the orig tarball every time08:19
AnAntping08:30
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bddebianAnAnt: Who are you pinging? :-)08:31
crimsunAnAnt: spec it and implement it08:31
bddebianHeh08:31
AnAntcrimsun: huh ?08:31
Specok08:31
crimsun14:19 < AnAnt> to make it possible to upload diffs only instead of having to re-upload the orig tarball every time08:32
AnAntI don't understand08:32
AnAntwhat is "spec it" ?08:32
crimsunwrite up the specifications08:32
Specto write a spec08:32
bddebianAnAnt: He is telling you to create a spec and then make it happen :-)08:32
AnAntwho wrote REVU ?08:33
Specit's like the rtfm of the developers world08:33
crimsunReinhard, Andrew, and Stefan iirc08:33
AnAntwhat ir rtfm ?08:33
bddebianOMG08:34
AnAntir=is08:34
bddebianRTFM == Read The F**king Manual08:34
Specstfw = search the f**king web08:34
Specand jgaawasfi = just go ahead and write a spec for it08:35
siretartAnAnt: patches are always welcome, sourcecode is as bzr registered in launchpad.08:35
AnAntsiretart: thanks08:35
bddebianHeya siretart08:35
siretarthuhu bddebian08:35
AnAntSpec: ftp = file transfer protocol , right ?08:36
bddebianAnd my favorite: UTSL :-)08:37
AnAntSpec: well it also means "foiled twisted pair"08:37
AnAntbddebian: what's that ?08:37
bddebianUse The Source Luke08:37
AnAntwho's Luke ?08:37
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bddebianD00d, what planet are you from? :-)08:38
AnAntd00d=dude, right ?08:38
bddebianYes08:38
AnAntall I know is that Luke is one of 4 : John, Luke, Paul, Mathew08:39
bddebianNo, Luke Skywalker, aka Star Wars08:39
bddebians/aka/a la/08:39
AnAntoh ok08:39
bddebianYou know, "Use the force, Luke".. :-)08:40
AnAntwell, it's me who should ask you, what galaxy are you from ?08:40
AnAntI am talking about ppl from earth, you talk about ppl in star wars08:40
bddebianIf I only knew.. :-)08:40
AnAntcrimsun: ok, what if I can write a spec, but I can't implement (I never wrote big software)08:42
AnAntcrimsun: is there someone to send  the suggestion ?08:43
AnAntping lionelp08:46
Specluke is played by an actor from earth08:48
crimsunAnAnt: everyone starts at the "I haven't written big software" stage08:48
Specthe other luke ... who knows, it's just text in a book that some people wrote :)08:48
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ajmitchmorning09:33
ivokshi ajmitch09:34
bddebianHeya ajmitch, ivoks09:35
=== ajmitch gets irritated by people submitting bugs sometimes :)
zulf-spot?09:35
ajmitchthey file a bug on a package in testing, and they know that the fix is in unstable & will get there in a day or two :)09:35
ajmitchno09:35
ajmitchbut there are annoying bugs filed there09:35
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crimsunpascal80 really needs to stop filing bug reports that ask for multiple source package syncs within one report.09:45
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=== ajmitch needs to ask for a package sync or two
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Adri2000bddebian: ping09:52
bddebianAdri2000: Yessir?09:53
Bazzihmmm I need Hobbsee :(09:53
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Adri2000bddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3122 have you seen the upload of September 14 12:50, patches are listed in the changelog09:55
bddebianHmm, maybe I didn't get the latest somehow..09:59
Adri2000ok, and about the manpage, i have nothing interessant to put in it :/ so is it very useful to create one ?10:04
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Adri2000bddebian: sorry, i'm having connection problems on irc10:09
Adri2000i said about the manpage that i have nothing to put in it, so is it very useful to create one ?10:10
bddebianAdri2000: Is this a GUI app?10:10
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beligumI think my first package is quite ready now; http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3125 anyone care to review?10:17
Adri2000yes10:17
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LaserJockcrimsun: "do not catalyse the sync process."? how professorly of you ;-)10:20
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Adri2000bddebian: can you add a comment to the last upload ?10:30
sethbeligum, you include FreeSans.ttf, but Ubuntu already includes this font. You should reference the user's local copy and not install your own10:31
beligumseth: with a symlink for now, and then changing the code for the next upstream release ?10:33
sethbeligum, ah, you're the upstream author. Don't worry about it for this release10:34
beligumok10:34
sethdoes your code actually reference that font? or does it copy it into the fonts directory, or what10:35
bddebianAdri2000: Yeah in a bit, sorry I'm at work10:41
Adri2000no problem, when you have some time10:43
beligumseth: what does the changelog-entry date stand for?10:43
beligumseth: the code references the font10:43
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sethbeligum, what do you mean about the changelog entry date? It should set automatically when you update the changelog with dch10:45
beligumseth: oh, didn't know that10:46
sethokay, just wasn't sure what you were asking about it :)10:46
sethbeligum, it seems like non-optimal behavior to have an application use a font different than my current system fonts... not harmful, just maybe unexpected?10:46
sethbut definitely not a showstopper problem10:46
thansenI'm trying to install the mono-xsp packages on edgy but it's crapping out...can anyone help me for a sec?10:46
beligumok, I'll take care of it in the next release10:47
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crimsunLaserJock: tact goes a long way.11:08
crimsun(or sometimes not at all, but it's arguably "better" than simply screaming)11:08
seaLneanyone else willing to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3123 ?11:08
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ajmitchcrimsun: words such as those may do wonders for the forums :)11:09
seaLnebut more likely just confuse them11:10
LaserJockcrimsun: true11:12
ajmitchLaserJock, crimsun: want to schedule another REVU day asap?11:13
ajmitchlike in the next few days11:14
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LaserJockajmitch: we could certainly use it11:20
LaserJockdo we have any stats on the last one11:20
ajmitchno idea11:20
LaserJockmy impression was that it didn't get much action11:20
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ajmitchLaserJock: well if we can get something done, it'd be good11:21
ajmitchraphink would be willing to help out, I'm sure :)11:21
ajmitchraphink: hi!11:22
raphinkhi ajmitch11:22
ajmitchwe're talking about having another REVu day11:22
LaserJockthat's what we need11:22
raphinkwhat are you talking about?11:22
LaserJockto get a group of reviewers together11:22
ajmitchLaserJock: which is why I asked you :)11:22
raphinkok11:23
=== ajmitch has heard from anonymous sources that it's discouraging not getting feedback :)
LaserJockcrimsun: is there *any* good times/days for you?11:25
LaserJockI'm of course totally swamped, but if we decide on a  day I'll try to clear it up as much as possible11:25
LaserJockajmitch: anonymous?11:25
ajmitchLaserJock: well, not really, just a comment out of the channel11:25
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ajmitchLaserJock: monday/tuesday? or is a weekend better?11:26
LaserJockweekend is not good for me11:26
LaserJockas long as I want to stay married11:26
LaserJock... which I do11:26
LaserJockhow's monday?11:27
ajmitchsounds good to me11:27
ajmitchif someone can put out a call for all willing MOTUs on the -devel & -motu lists11:28
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=== LaserJock volunteers
LaserJockhmm, should I rather sent it to -devel-announce and -motu?11:29
=== bddebian has been trying to REVU
LaserJockbddebian: can you do Monday?11:31
bddebianI do every day homeboy :-)11:32
ajmitchbddebian: then get to it!11:32
bddebianUhm..11:33
seaLnebddebian: those man pages took ages to write :)11:40
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bddebianseaLne: :-)11:47
seaLnei hate writeing man pages now and if i find the guy that wrote a format that randomly falls over because you have a double space it won't be pleasant11:51
bddebianHeh, no kidding :)11:51
seaLneand randomly for no reason that i can see it wouldn't allow me to include upstream authors email11:52
seaLnewhen i did it just corrupted from theat point on11:52
bddebianNice11:52
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bddebianLater gang12:04
bddebianAdri2000: I hit djplay again12:04
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