[12:01] <lakin> Does gnome/metacity have an alt+tab like faciliity that switches applications instead of windows?
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> take long
[12:01] <Kanzie> Flannel: Yeah, but I have been through the settings and could not find it
[12:01] <Kanzie> checking about:config now
[12:01] <wiking_> covOPprometheus, now i made some icons...
[12:01] <BoukenPink> Jack_Sparrow: My CD burner is like 8 years old, and it's pretty much my only working CD drive... Heh... It goes at like 4x speed or something.
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> BoukenPink: What about the rest?
[12:02] <motin_> ubotu making love
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about making love - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <synjet> Neo8750: maybe removing and installing x again? crude method, but might help..
[12:02] <motin_> poor bot
[12:02] <cpk2> !life
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <synjet> motin_ please dont abuse the bot
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Please dont play with the bot
[12:02] <motin_> synjet: couldnt resist, but ok
[12:02] <psycose> indeed my connections is running internet ppp0 (usb) lan eth0, each time i launch firestarter it says unknown error not able to start the firewall but then the forewall start correctly. any tips ?
[12:03] <ProsperoMeridion> that happens to me too
[12:03] <motin_> psycose: what does the logs tell you?
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> psycose: Install guarddog and see if that has the same error
[12:03] <BoukenPink> Jack_Sparrow: Ummm... I don't really know, I'm not very oriented with hardware, my cousin put it together... Uh... 80GB harddrive, 512MB ram, AMD Athlon XP...
[12:04] <grimboy> From what I understand, any line in authorized_keys can begin with "command="foo bar"" and that command will run at startup when the machine with that key logs in via ssh. When I actually login through ssh I get the error "Connection closed by hostname".
[12:04] <psycose> Jack_Sparrow, well the system is 12 000 km far away .. i'would not like to put it in trouble by trying things ....
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> BoukenPink: it just seems odd that in the amount of time you have spent complaining about how slow the live cd loads from your 4x drive you could have installed Ubuntu 10 times
[12:05] <BoukenPink> Jack_Sparrow: It wouldn't have loaded by now, trust me.
[12:06] <psycose> motin_, are you talking about a specific log file or /var/log/messages .
[12:06] <Neo8750> synjet: yeah that changed nothing all the old xorg does is make my x crash when a 3d ap starts
[12:06] <BoukenPink> I was hoping there was a way I could still use the alternate version, but I guess I'll have to try it the normal way again.
[12:06] <Jack_Sparrow> psycose: Guarddog is just an iptable manager like firestarter
[12:06] <grimboy> BoukenPink, Why not just get a decent cd rom drive? You can get working 52X cd-rom drives from the skip nowerdays.
[12:06] <synjet> Neo8750: maybe you have unsupported card? Intel 810?
[12:07] <Neo8750> nope s3 savage
[12:07] <BoukenPink> grimboy: Yeah, I've been going to, just haven't got around to it yet.
[12:07] <Lard-O-Lad> when i change the apt sources, do i have to issue the apt-get upgrade command?
[12:07] <Neo8750> synjet: also its not an x problem x runs fine[
[12:07] <cpk2> Lard-O-Lad: apt-get update
[12:07] <psycose> Jack_Sparrow, thanks for your advise ... i'll try it on my local system soon to evaluate it ... but for now i'm trying to know more about this issue ...
[12:07] <mezoko> I have openssh installed on my ubuntu server, but when I press the backspace key in a ssh'd sessiont to my server the backspace key takes the default of the del key
[12:07] <Neo8750> synjet: its something with the init.d
[12:07] <Lard-O-Lad> cpk2: yea i did update, this guide tells me to upgrade
[12:07] <user-land> flannel, thanks for the link for skype. the instructions for amd64 are too complicated for me to follow though ...
[12:08] <Neo8750> because i can have a usplash but it has no text in dialog box and if i turn usplash off its blank
[12:08] <julian> when I use the command "apt-get upgrade" I get this error: `Depends' field, missing package name, or garbage where package name expected
[12:08] <julian> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:08] <julian>  Anyone know whats up?
[12:08] <grimboy> Lard-O-Lad, You don't need to unless you want newer versions of your packages.
[12:09] <synjet> Neo8750: oh ok, so your /etc/init.d/x11-common has some prob maybe? you edited that?
[12:09] <Lard-O-Lad> cpk2, grimboy: thanks
[12:09] <Neo8750> thats what causes all the outputs durning usplash??
[12:09] <tyler_d> help please, I cannot get my add/remove apps to open?
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Neo8750: NOt that this will solve your problem but it may half with your video when you get Ubuntu running..https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[12:09] <grimboy> tyler_d, What's happening? You click on it... then?
[12:10] <jazzrocker> is there a way to backup to a previous dpkg state?
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d: HAve you changed your sources list manually or with a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu?
[12:10] <Neo8750> Jack_Sparrow: what you mean my video problem? as in why its not showingboot info?
[12:10] <jazzrocker> sort of like in CVS or Subversion?
[12:10] <cpk2> Lard-O-Lad: update is so you use the new sources upgrade is to actually update your programs
[12:10] <synjet> Neo8750: :) ahem thats the only x file I saw in init.d
[12:10] <tyler_d> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[12:10] <jazzrocker> but for packagemanager/filesystem state?
[12:10] <Neo8750> or as in a problem with my X
[12:10] <tyler_d> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23374
[12:10] <grimboy> jazzrocker, aptitude sort of does that.
[12:11] <jazzrocker> sort of? lol
[12:11] <xyazabix> I have a question about resizing my ubuntu partition...
[12:11] <jazzrocker> anyway, the mldonkey-server package has failed on me twice in a row on a fresh install
[12:11] <jazzrocker> just wondering how to clean up
[12:11] <grimboy> jazzrocker, But you have to use it to do everything.
[12:11] <jazzrocker> by twice in a row i mean two different separate fresh installs
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d: There is a reason we do NOT suggest those and when people insist on running them they NEED a full backup
[12:12] <tyler_d> Jack_Sparrow: so what your saying is I'm screwed?
[12:12] <Lard-O-Lad> !test
[12:12] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d: Not if you have a backup..
[12:12] <Steil> Where can I blacklist a module so it won't load at boot?
[12:12] <jazzrocker> grimboy, http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[12:12] <jazzrocker> oh lol
[12:12] <jazzrocker> http://pastebin.ca/169438
[12:12] <jazzrocker> sorry
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > tyler_d:
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[12:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d: reg your nick
[12:13] <jazzrocker> grimboy, the install of mlnet-server failed as well but i don't have the error message for it
[12:13] <tyler_d> Jack_Sparrow: how?
[12:13] <_cerberus_> I'm having a problem with apt-get, whenever I attempt to use it the download speed drops to rediculously slow speeds (200B/s). reconnecting to the internet fixes the problem, but it's annoying having to do this whenever I want to install anything.
[12:13] <Neo8750> synjet: but i'm not refering to X not haveing video hell i'm in X right now i'm talking about the console
[12:13] <JosefK> jazzrocker: it looks like it's a problem in the /etc/init.d script for the mldonkey server
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d: First things first...
[12:14] <JosefK> jazzrocker: you can probably edit the file by hand to remove the '-f' argument, but the error needs to be reported
[12:14] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i see. so basically whoever tried to write a package to install mldonkey as a service f8cked up
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> USe the info on that page to undo the changes to your sources page and see if that helps...
[12:14] <tyler_d> ok
[12:14] <bluefox83> !wmz
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <bluefox83> er
[12:14] <bluefox83> !wmv
[12:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:15] <JosefK> jazzrocker: well, the package is from universe or multiverse, and a lot of those are just sent straight downstream from Debian
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d:    /msg nickserv help                  for info on registering your nick
[12:15] <jazzrocker> JosefK, ahh
[12:16] <tyler_d> Jack_Sparrow: still the same error after doing that
[12:16] <JosefK> jazzrocker: if it's in universe (aptitude show *package name*), try #ubuntu-motu for more info
[12:16] <tyler_d> Jack_Sparrow: I will reg my nick then try my backup
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[12:17] <xyazabix> I have a question about resizing my ubuntu partition...
[12:18] <jazzrocker> JosefK, ok so which script do i need to edit?
[12:18] <jazzrocker> JosefK
[12:18] <psycose> motin_, when i laucnh firestarter from a terminal it output : Usage:program_name [address] [:port] Firewall started Failed to start DHCP server, may be there is a problem around my dhcp server ...
[12:18] <JosefK> jazzrocker: whichever file looks mldonkey related in /etc/init.d
[12:18] <bluefox83> how do i play wmv's with DRM?
[12:19] <jazzrocker> JosefK, did that already
[12:19] <yohan> hey guys im using a via 8237 sound chipset with alsa on dapper and im trying to run a surround sound movie...it all works but the two front speakers have a very low volume compared to the others, why is this? Can I balance it somehow?
[12:19] <jazzrocker> JosefK, there's only one
[12:19] <JosefK> jazzrocker: as there should be - did you remove the -f flag?
[12:19] <jazzrocker> JosefK, there are only three -f's and they're all bash related
[12:19] <bluefox83> yohan, alsamixergui can help :)
[12:19] <jazzrocker> JosefK, well two -f and one --format
[12:19] <xyazabix> Can someone help me with a hard drive question???
[12:20] <JosefK> jazzrocker: try replacing the -f with --format
[12:20] <Flannel> xyazabix: in IRC it's usually best to just ask your question, instead of asking to ask
[12:20] <jazzrocker> JosefK, you have no idea what you're talking about do you
[12:20] <jazzrocker> JosefK, it's ok. i've been a programmer for 12 years
[12:20] <JosefK> jazzrocker: I know the startup script was complaining about a -f flag, but I'm not going to go installing mldonkey just to look at the same file
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> psycose: For my own info can you ... system...admin...networking...DNS - tab....  what do you show...
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> xyazabix: What is the question
[12:21] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i just know very little about packaging
[12:21] <xyazabix> How can I resize an exsisting unbuntu partition to take up less space on my hard drive?
[12:21] <jazzrocker> JosefK, that's something i've never had to deal with
[12:21] <xyazabix> free space that is
[12:21] <JosefK> jazzrocker: I'm doing it blind, but my 6 years of programming tell me if a script fails and complains about a flag, and I see that flag being passed, I remove it
[12:21] <benkong2> xyazabix, use gparted or qparted on knoppix cd
[12:21] <Flannel> xyazabix: use a partitioning tool, such as gparted
[12:21] <jazzrocker> JosefK, how can i get a list of the files that the package would have installed?
[12:22] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i looked at the script. the flag isn't being "passed" to anything mldonkey related
[12:22] <xyazabix> Thanks a lot!
[12:22] <jazzrocker> /usr/bin/stat --format=......
[12:22] <jazzrocker> if [ ! -f "$MLDONKEY_DIR/downloads.ini" ] ; then
[12:22] <yohan> thank you bluefox83
[12:23] <bluefox83> yohan, no problem
[12:23] <psycose> Jack_Sparrow, i got my ISP dns ;-)
[12:23] <tyler_d> Jack_Sparrow: none of those would work?
[12:23] <JosefK> heh.. try "if [ \! -f ... ] "
[12:23] <jazzrocker> JosefK, hahaha! omg i'm an idiot lol
[12:23] <Neo8750> synjet: yeah that didn't work either
[12:23] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i think i see it but i'm not sure what to man for to find the flags
[12:23] <JosefK> jazzrocker: man test
[12:24] <JosefK> jazzrocker: and it's dpkg -L for files
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> psycose: thanks
[12:24] <jazzrocker> JosefK, install -o mldonkey -g mldoney -m 755 -f $PIDFILE
[12:24] <Lard-O-Lad> why does hddtemp need super user privilages? is there anyway to run it without them?
[12:24] <jazzrocker> JosefK, no i know about the bash one
[12:24] <yohan> but bluefox83 my volume is generally low too, is there anyway to adjust it in the asound or so?
[12:24] <jazzrocker> JosefK, but i doubt those are the offending lines, the one i just paste ^
[12:24] <jazzrocker> is
[12:24] <psycose> usepeerdns is activated ;-)
[12:24] <bluefox83> yohan, gnome volume control
[12:24] <JosefK> jazzrocker: indeed :/ I'd check the mldonkey related calls it makes, and see if they're actually startup scripts
[12:25] <yohan> bluefox83: its on the top there :(
[12:25] <jazzrocker> JosefK, what is "install" in this case?
[12:25] <motin_> where do I find killproc ?
[12:25] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i did man install, but i can't find the -f option
[12:25] <nich0s> hey all. i have a headphone port on my laptop and i want to know if anyone knows of a reason that the sound out of the speakers on the laptop work but anytime I plug something in to the headphone port, the sound cuts out (normal) and doesn't play on the headphones (not normal).  Is there a setting to adjust this or do I have a bad port?
[12:25] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i'm guessing that's the problem
[12:25] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i also can't find "pid" or "PID"
[12:25] <JosefK> jazzrocker: nor can I on the same manpage..
[12:25] <JosefK> jazzrocker: I'd need to see the whole script pasted somewhere, but you may have it with that call
[12:26] <bluefox83> nich0s, try opening up gnome volume control and turning up the headphones
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nich0s: Port is not bad, but I do not remember the fix
[12:26] <jazzrocker> JosefK, aight lemme paste, brb
[12:26] <JosefK> jazzrocker: cheers
[12:26] <twistedwrench> cheers all!
[12:27] <nich0s> bluefox83: Where do I find that control?
[12:27] <vdepizzol> can I change the apparence of motif apps (teamspeak)?
[12:27] <nich0s> Jack_Sparrow: Do you know where I might be able to find the fix?
[12:27] <jazzrocker> JosefK, http://pastebin.ca/169463
[12:27] <twistedwrench> need a little help automounting two usb partitons, anyone can help?
[12:27] <jazzrocker> JosefK, line 82
[12:27] <JosefK> jazzrocker: you had it with the install call - check the original error and look for 'install' http://pastebin.ca/169438
[12:27] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23377
[12:28] <nich0s> OMG!! satellite connection!
[12:28] <bluefox83> nich0s, the easy way it so right click your task bar on an empty spot, click add to panel, then selecting the volume control and click "add"
[12:28] <sorush20> how do I fix this .. I have done sudo apt-get -f install , sudo apt-get -f remove ,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nich0s: Sorry, no, someone in the room wlaked them through it.
[12:28] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23377
[12:28] <sorush20> how do I fix this .. I have done sudo apt-get -f install , sudo apt-get -f remove ,  sudo dpkg --configure -a http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23377
[12:28] <JosefK> jazzrocker: it was inconspicuously half-way across a line :/
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> nich0s: If I had to guess it was something about turning off the external amp.. But that is a guess.
[12:29] <blackline> I have an .deb package of Direct Connect Plus Plus for Linux that I which to install. How I install those packages manually?
[12:29] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i know but that just points to a copy of the man page in short format
[12:29] <jazzrocker> JosefK, install --help
[12:29] <Flannel> blackline: dpkg
[12:29] <lupine_85> right-click and select install ;)
[12:29] <jazzrocker> JosefK, which still doesn't say anything about PID or -f
[12:29] <JosefK> jazzrocker: I think the fix is to remove the -f completely, check the first instance of 'install' on the mapage
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> blackline: The source of the package must have instructions...
[12:30] <bluefox83> is there a way to play WMV's that have that digital media restriction thingy?
[12:30] <jazzrocker> yeah i guess i'll just comment it out and see what happens
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[12:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:30] <JosefK> jazzrocker: the 'install' is putting the process ID of the mldonkey server into a lockfile, it gets read and used to kill mldonkey when 'stop' is called (per the error when trying to stop mldonkey too)
[12:30] <nich0s> bluefox83: I don't have a "headphones" in that control.
[12:30] <twistedwrench> anyone on the usb drive automount?
[12:30] <JosefK> jazzrocker: you still need the $PIDFILE, just lose the -f
[12:31] <Homer> I got 4135 points on Same GNOME
[12:31] <Homer> holy crap
[12:31] <nich0s> bluefox83: If someone ever comes up to you and says, "I will give you a free satellite connection to the internet." Kick them very, very hard.
[12:31] <bluefox83> nich0s, open up the preferences in the volume control, make sure it shows the headphones
[12:31] <jazzrocker> hmmmm
[12:31] <jazzrocker> ok
[12:31] <nich0s> bluefox83: Nothing there.
[12:31] <bluefox83> nich0s, uh..yeah i kinda already knew satelite connections suck...
[12:32] <nich0s> bluefox83: I take that back.. there is something ther.
[12:32] <nich0s> bluefox83: No headphones
[12:32] <bluefox83> Headphone ?
[12:32] <nich0s> no
[12:32] <nich0s> PCM
[12:32] <nich0s> Master
[12:32] <JosefK> jazzrocker: install [OPTION] ... [-T]  SOURCE DEST - without the -f, DEST is $PIDFILE
[12:32] <bluefox83> try pcm
[12:32] <nich0s> on and up
[12:32] <eevench> can i get my google calandar in ubuntu without firefox?
[12:33] <bluefox83> still having issues?
[12:33] <jazzrocker> JosefK, uhhh but what is the source?
[12:33] <jazzrocker> JosefK, or what should the source be?
[12:33] <nich0s> bluefox83: Yes'
[12:33] <nich0s>  :)
[12:33] <CharonX> Is there a way to downgrade to a 32 bit system from 64 bit without re-installing and losing everything ?
[12:33] <bluefox83> nich0s, if it's still not working..why are you smiling >.>
[12:33] <JosefK> jazzrocker: aye, I'm just trying to figure what that call actually does, two secs
[12:33] <ph8> hey guys
[12:33] <nich0s> bluefox83: I'm a sadist
[12:33] <jazzrocker> JosefK, without the -f the line is this "install -o mldonkey -g mldoney -m 755 $PIDFILE" and then $PIDFILE is the source
[12:33] <nich0s> bluefox83: or masochist
[12:34] <nich0s> bluefox83: Whichever applies :P
[12:34] <falcongrinder> hello
[12:34] <twistedwrench> hello
[12:34] <ph8> i'm trying to install ubuntu-server, i've tried two DVD drives now (with cds and DVDs with the .iso burnt on) and i get into the install ok, select keyboard layout but the detection of the hard disk drive keeps failing!
[12:34] <sethk> nich0s, do you know what the sadist did to the masochist?
[12:34] <JosefK> jazzrocker: it's creating a file mldonkey:mldonkey with 755 permissions, but the file looks empty.
[12:34] <bluefox83> CharonX, install the 1386 kernel packages, update grub, reboot
[12:34] <ph8> any idea how to sort it out?
[12:34] <bluefox83> er, i386
[12:34] <nich0s> sethk: what?
[12:34] <bluefox83> CharonX, i386
[12:34] <sethk> nich0s, nothing
[12:34] <eevench> can evolution get google calanders
[12:34] <falcongrinder> I need help with configuration.  Anyone have kismet?
[12:34] <nich0s> sethk: lol
[12:34] <CharonX> bluefox83, Will the package manager figure out the change and update everything ? LIke firefox etc... ?
[12:35] <JosefK> jazzrocker: 'echo > $PIDFILE; chown mldonkey:mldonkey $PIDFILE; chmod 755 $PIDFILE' also does this
[12:35] <jazzrocker> JosefK, right
[12:35] <kevyn> anyone know how to to get to the regualr mIRC servers form x-chat?
[12:35] <bluefox83> CharonX, should...most of that stuff is 32 bit anyways
[12:35] <nich0s> Anyone else want to take a stab at an answer or should I just drop it for a while?
[12:35] <twistedwrench> usb drives automounting ,anyone?
[12:36] <UncleD> is this the best way to backup my system: tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys
[12:36] <twistedwrench> usb drives automounting ,anyone?
[12:36] <bluefox83> twistedwrench, you need help getting a usb drive to automount?
[12:36] <twistedwrench> yes pls
[12:36] <julian> Apt is giving me this error: `Depends' field, missing package name, or garbage where package name expected
[12:36] <julian> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:36] <Flannel> !tell UncleD about backup
[12:37] <twistedwrench> blufox yes
[12:37] <Kazad> anyone willing to answer some installation questions of mine?
[12:37] <bluefox83> twistedwrench, google is your friend
[12:37] <jazzrocker> JosefK, so do you have any idea what that line is supposed to be accomplishing and why it would do so on debian but not ubuntu?
[12:37] <bluefox83> Kazad, ask, don't ask to ask :P
[12:37] <motin_> Anyone know of an equivalence to www.netlimiter.com for GNU/Linux? I too have limited bandwidth from my ISP ...
[12:37] <Kazad> does it matter if my ISO is on a dvd?
[12:38] <ZeroOn1> heya, i have a question...i've installed what i needed to play mp3's on ubunto, but for some reason no program i have will play them, still
[12:38] <eobanb> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Kazad: Not if it is the CD.iso you are trying to put on a dvd
[12:38] <twistedwrench> bluefox ive done all that fstab entries etc
[12:38] <bluefox83> Kazad, only if you aren't using a dvd drive to read it
[12:38] <JosefK> jazzrocker: yes, I said before.  it creates a file with the required permissions, presumably start-stop-daemon puts its PID in there but has no idea of the required permissions
[12:38] <kthugalug> i got a question about linux, can someone help me?
[12:38] <ZeroOn1> i've done the stuff that on that page
[12:38] <Flannel> !ask
[12:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:38] <sinisterr> ZeroOn1: vlc will play them
[12:38] <recon0> I'm trying to FTP to ftp.ifarchive.org using the ftp command, but when I try to ls, it gives me "500 Illegal PORT range rejected.
[12:38] <bluefox83> twistedwrench, i dunno..never messed with usb drives
[12:38] <recon0> ".
[12:38] <twistedwrench> sometimes they load, 90% not...
[12:38] <jazzrocker> JosefK, i see...
[12:39] <kthugalug> can someone help me with linux?
[12:39] <jazzrocker> JosefK, the documentaion is a bit lacking
[12:39] <Kazad> okay so when i boot and have the dvd in nothing happens either because it wasn't burnt right or the ISO is corrupt, right?
[12:39] <jazzrocker> JosefK, so coule source maybe be /dev/null ?
[12:39] <jazzrocker> lol
[12:39] <JosefK> jazzrocker: indeed, according to some UNIX variants '-f' is used to specify flags to install, but this is obviously using a filename
[12:39] <jazzrocker> that would but "nothing" into the file wouldn't it?
[12:39] <cpk2> !ask
[12:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:39] <recon0> !ftp
[12:39] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:39] <JosefK> jazzrocker: aye, but the echo does that just as well
[12:39] <jazzrocker> s/but/put/
[12:39] <bluefox83> Kazad, did you make sure the bios was set to boot from cdrom?
[12:39] <Flannel> Kazad: no, usually its because your DVD drive isn't high enough in the boot order
[12:39] <Kazad> yes
[12:40] <jazzrocker> JosefK, ok however with this install command... what should i change it to?
[12:40] <bluefox83> Kazad, you might have a bad iso..
[12:40] <JosefK> jazzrocker: oh, that line I pasted before, it does the same thing
[12:40] <Kazad> okay
[12:40] <JosefK> jazzrocker: echo > $PIDFILE; chown mldonkey:mldonkey $PIDFILE; chmod 755 $PIDFILE
[12:40] <jazzrocker> JosefK, oh i must have missed it
[12:40] <jazzrocker> oh ok so instead of install just use that
[12:40] <Kazad> should i be able to burn the ISO right after i downlaod it?
[12:40] <JosefK> jazzrocker: yeah, they seem to do the same thing
[12:40] <bluefox83> yes
[12:40] <Kazad> okay thanks
[12:41] <jazzrocker> heheh, well we'll find out
[12:41] <twistedwrench> usb drives automounting ,anyone?
[12:41] <twistedwrench> or why they dont?
[12:42] <jazzrocker> JosefK, well that results in yet a different error
[12:42] <JosefK> jazzrocker: gl :) it looks like you were removing mldonkey, you may need to install it again
[12:42] <jazzrocker> JosefK, it seems it needs/wants the mldonkey server to be running
[12:42] <motin_> Anyone know how to limit inbound and outboing network traffic and can help me set it up? I systemwide limit of about 3kb/sec towards the internet would be a great start! (With a continuance of limiting each app seperately)
[12:42] <jazzrocker> JosefK, ahh now with this now edited script you mean?
[12:43] <kthugalug> can someone help me reset the root password
[12:43] <jazzrocker> JosefK, won't it just expand the same script from the .deb and overwrite my change(s) ?
[12:43] <kthugalug> ?
[12:43] <Flannel> kthugalug: why do you want to set your root password?
[12:43] <JosefK> jazzrocker: I only say it, because here http://pastebin.ca/169438 you were removing mldonkey-server
[12:43] <kthugalug> i need to install some programs, and forgot it
[12:43] <JosefK> jazzrocker: yeah, but we only made one change and it's in history, you could back it up
[12:43] <Flannel> kthugalug: was it ever set?  Why aren't you using sudo?
[12:43] <falcongrinder> anyone know how to edit a .conf file in terminal?
[12:43] <Flannel> falcongrinder: nano
[12:43] <kthugalug> sudo? im new to linux
[12:43] <twistedwrench> sudo gedit
[12:44] <Flannel> !tell kthugalug about sudo
[12:44] <falcongrinder> thanks flannel
[12:44] <viator> this is weird sound has been working fine with flash forever
[12:44] <viator> and now i get no sound wit flash
[12:44] <adamlaz> i dont have any sound... thats why im here
[12:44] <viator> but system sounds like on bootup they seem to work fine
[12:44] <kthugalug> uum, should i google it flannel?
[12:44] <Flannel> kthugalug: check the link ubotu sent you
[12:44] <twistedwrench> usb drives automounting ,anyone?
[12:45] <viator> i had flash setup to say it was version 9
[12:45] <ph8> i'm trying to install ubuntu-server, i've tried two DVD drives now (with cds and DVDs with the .iso burnt on) and i get into the install ok, select keyboard layout but the detection of the hard disk drive keeps failing!
[12:45] <viator> but i set it back on 7
[12:45] <kthugalug> thanks
[12:45] <ph8> any idea how to sort it out?
[12:45] <viator> and still no sound
[12:45] <kthugalug> ubotu is a bot?
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <JosefK> ph8: you checked the md5 of the downloaded .iso matches?
[12:45] <ph8> it's booting from them..
[12:46] <jazzrocker> JosefK, reinstalling does nothing but give me a rather odd error
[12:46] <ph8> and i can load them on this machine
[12:46] <JosefK> ph8: doesn't mean they're perfect - if you burned the same downloaded image twice, it could be a fault with the image
[12:46] <jazzrocker> JosefK, which i can't paste
[12:46] <ph8> hmm
[12:46] <ph8> good point
[12:46] <adamlaz> i dont have any sound in dapper... anyone have any tips?
[12:46] <Flannel> !tell adamlaz about sound
[12:46] <JosefK> jazzrocker: ack :/ can't paste?
[12:46] <jazzrocker> wait
[12:46] <jazzrocker> there we go... http://pastebin.ca/169481
[12:46] <jazzrocker> JosefK, forgot about middlemouse
[12:46] <tyler_d> the latest fglrx drivers for my radeon 9600 reduce my fps down to below 100? anyone have any ideas?
[12:46] <viator> i guess nobodys has a clue
[12:46] <adamlaz> thanks flannel
[12:47] <viator> ill try purge removing it and reinstalling it
[12:47] <cpk2> and fps below 100 is a problem?
[12:47] <JosefK> jazzrocker: try a purge and a cache-clean, that's a very obscure error (a parser failed?)
[12:47] <jazzrocker> JosefK, yes, very
[12:47] <tyler_d> cpk2: lol... umm yes big problem
[12:47] <JosefK> jazzrocker: sudo aptitude --purge remove mldonkey-server; sudo aptitude clean; sudo aptitude install mldonkey-server
[12:48] <twistedwrench> adamlaz, any system sounds?
[12:48] <jazzrocker> JosefK, um, i've been using --purge remove mldonkey server
[12:48] <ph8> the checksum's fine jose
[12:48] <jazzrocker> JosefK, that's the command that's giving me the error
[12:48] <ph8> any other ideas?
[12:48] <ph8> it basically says it can't find it at /dev/cdrom or through autodetect
[12:48] <ph8> and gives me the choice of selecting it myself, but it's not in /dev
[12:48] <benkong2> I lost my ubuntu icon by the application menu. Can anyone tell me where it is supposed to be located?
[12:48] <JosefK> jazzrocker: that's strange - it looks like it's trying to install the package first
[12:49] <jazzrocker> JosefK, shouldn't there be a bypass command
[12:49] <jazzrocker> JosefK, yes it does look so, perhaps because it failed initially
[12:49] <JosefK> jazzrocker: yes, there are some arcane force commands, check the man for dpkg
[12:49] <Flannel> ph8: youre using the server iso?  If I remember, it has less hardware detection on it.  You might try the alternate iso, and type 'server' at the boot prompt.  It'll install a server environment
[12:50] <ph8> ah nice one flannel
[12:50] <viator> !flash
[12:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <ph8> i'll try that tomorrow, far too late now! :p
[12:50] <ph8> cheers!
[12:50] <bimberi> who
[12:50] <ph8> just use 'f6, additional options'
[12:50] <twistedwrench> usb drives automounting ,anyone?
[12:50] <ph8> and type 'server'?
[12:50] <ph8> at the end?
[12:50] <Flannel> ph8: nah, no need to f6, just type server.  the f keys are just help related
[12:50] <JosefK> jazzrocker: hah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208382
[12:50] <ph8> but it doesn't appear on screen anywhere flannel?
[12:50] <ph8> should ie be?
[12:50] <ph8> * it be
[12:51] <Flannel> ph8: youre currently using the server iso?  does it have a graphical installer?
[12:51] <ph8> i'm at the screen giving me the option to install to hard disk, install lamp, check cd, fix broken system etc with 6 F options
[12:51] <jazzrocker> ok so how do i get the name of the mldonkey package with which to use dpkg
[12:51] <ph8> it appears so :)
[12:51] <ph8> how do i get to text-only?
[12:51] <ph8> might be more useful
[12:51] <Flannel> ph8: odd.  Well, the alternate ISO is text only, so you'll get the old style installer.
[12:51] <JosefK> jazzrocker: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/mldonkey-server
[12:51] <twistedwrench> i guess noone has a clue about usb partitons?
[12:51] <ph8> the 'alternate'?
[12:52] <ph8> oh i see it
[12:52] <ph8> why's it called alternate?
[12:52] <Flannel> ph8: because it's the alternate installer
[12:52] <bluefox83> dangit..i am having issues playing wmv movies =(
[12:52] <ph8> i understand :)
[12:52] <bluefox83> i installed the w32codecs
[12:52] <ph8> but is it a server installer?
[12:52] <ph8> or am i going to end up with a desktop copy i'll have to strip out?
[12:52] <twistedwrench> bluefox in what prog?
[12:53] <twistedwrench> totem?
[12:53] <JosefK> ph8: if you add 'server', it'll be a server install.  by default it would be the desktop
[12:53] <bluefox83> mplayer, vlc, xine
[12:53] <Flannel> ph8: it's an alternative method of installing ubuntu.  It has plenty of options.  It's a desktop installer, however, it has a server option, which installs the text-only base system
[12:53] <ph8> nice
[12:53] <ph8> cheers guys
[12:53] <kthugalug> thanks flannel! i set the password, and now installing limewire!
[12:53] <Flannel> kthugalug: you didn't need to set the root password, just use sudo
[12:53] <kthugalug> oh, i set one anyways
[12:53] <xyazabix> I installd gparted, but I can't resize the partion... anyone know why?
[12:53] <kthugalug> i got other people that use this comp
[12:53] <sorush20> !libfam
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libfam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <Sven> hi
[12:54] <Flannel> kthugalug: they can use sudo too ;)
[12:54] <kthugalug> ! is that a search?
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is that a search? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <swim> odd gnome-look.org has been down for a couple of days now
[12:54] <kthugalug> oh, well i dont think they're that computer saavy, but thanks!
[12:55] <tyler_d> is anyone using the fglrx driver with a radeon 9600?
[12:55] <twistedwrench> 9800
[12:55] <Sven> i have two sound cards, which i can both see in the gnome mixer, but only one appears as /dev/dsp* (/dev/dsp exists, /dev/dsp1 does not). how can i make the 2nd card accessible?
[12:55] <SEN5421> anyone here use TightVNC or VNC on Ubuntu? I cannot remote control my Windows XP system from Ubuntu and the forums are of no help with this issue, I checked.
[12:55] <kthugalug> has anyone bought anything form www.ibuypower.com?
[12:55] <tyler_d>  twistedwrench: any idea why the latest version kills my fps?
[12:56] <xyazabix> Flannel: I installed gparted, but I can't resize the partion... It has a lock next to it
[12:56] <twistedwrench> nope just reinstall previous
[12:56] <twistedwrench> i get 300
[12:56] <kthugalug> i was thinking about getting a gaming comp, and need some advice on where to buy from...
[12:56] <[jb] > what's the command to see if imap is running on my computer?
[12:56] <twistedwrench> fps
[12:56] <tyler_d>  twistedwrench: previous?...
[12:56] <BDahl> Anybody out there that can help me with a network printing problem?
[12:56] <kthugalug> fps a gaming comp?
[12:57] <kthugalug> nevermind
[12:57] <SEN5421> anyone?
[12:57] <twistedwrench> what ver fglrx? ati?
[12:57] <twistedwrench> or mesa?
[12:57] <xyazabix> Can anyone help with gparted???? I installd gparted, but I can't resize the partion...
[12:57] <jazzrocker> JosefK, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq mldonkey-server
[12:57] <jazzrocker> JosefK, ----^ that did the trick
[12:57] <jpjacobs> xyazabix, is the parrtition in use perhaps (like mounted?)
[12:58] <JosefK> jazzrocker: arcane indeed :)
[12:58] <xyazabix> jpjacobs: yes... its where ubunto is installed
[12:58] <tokenbad> anyone know what this means?  bash: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[12:58] <twistedwrench> permissions
[12:59] <jazzrocker> JosefK, lol, yay for the manual boo for the mldonkey debian packagers
[12:59] <Flannel> xyazabix: you can only play with unmounted partitions, you might need to get a liveCD to do it, if its your main one
[12:59] <twistedwrench> need to sudo that
[12:59] <tokenbad> twistedwrench, that is with sudo
[12:59] <xyazabix> Flannel: Thanks, I'll try that!
[12:59] <royal> does anyone know where a 64 bit ubuntu deb for wine is?
[12:59] <JosefK> jazzrocker: I especially like the big warning above those options in the manpage
[01:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> royal, non-existant
[01:00] <royal> no wine support for 64 bit?
[01:00] <lupine_85> only in a 32-bit chroot
[01:00] <linopil> why is root  user hidden by design?
[01:00] <chris449> hi, my wireless card doesnt' work. It's a belkin 802.11g F5D7000, and is supposed to work on the madwifi drivers. atm it's disabled because it causes ubuntu boot to hang on "configuring network devices" if enabled. The suggestion on the madwifi site is to reinstall linux-restriced-modules. But this would mean deleting the nvidia drivers in the process, and i'm using xgl. what should i do to get my wireless working?
[01:01] <lupine_85> because root is the dark horse of the Ubuntu family ;)
[01:01] <lupine_85> chris449: tried usign the madwifi-ng drivers instead?
[01:01] <chris449> lupine_85: i dont' know how to upgrade?
[01:01] <Flannel> linopil: because we use sudo instead, no real need for root, so it's disabled.
[01:01] <ph8> oh JosefK / Flannel - while you're here - if i'm installing raid1, should i be doing that from the installer somehow? or from the os once it's installe?d
[01:01] <royal> ok I DLED a tar from linuxgamers, and I'm wondering how do I install it into my 64 bit test machine (running p4 630 with EMT64)
[01:01] <lupine_85> (eg modprobe -r ath_pci; modprobe new_ath_pci)
[01:01] <lupine_85> they're already in the kernel
[01:02] <ph8> i found a howto on the forums but don't know whether it's during install or afterwards
[01:02] <ph8> presumably during install... but i thought it prudent to check
[01:02] <linopil> sudo everywhere never ever need root?
[01:02] <Flannel> ph8: you can do it from the installer, the alternate CD,
[01:02] <Flannel> linopil: right
[01:02] <ph8> cheers again!
[01:02] <lupine_85> until sudo breaks...
[01:02] <billybennett> Hello, I've just dual booted Ubuntu and Windows and everything seemed to have worked but I switched back to Ubuntu and when loading the checks (ok..ok..ok) Mounting Root File System and Waiting for Root File System dont say okay and its froze
[01:02] <chris449> lupine_85:thanks, i'll give it a try. do u know the location of the file that says whether a device is enabled, in case i have the hang on startup problem?
[01:02] <JosefK> ph8: if you want to use LVM, not hardware RAID, which is a good choice to make, you setup the partitions for LVM, the RAID mode and partition the rade within the installer
[01:02] <JosefK> s/rade/RAID/ - tired :(
[01:02] <lupine_85> chris449: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:02] <linopil> until sudo breaks?
[01:02] <chris449> thanks
[01:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> linopil, he means "yes"
[01:03] <linopil> sudo relies on groups
[01:03] <UncleD> what is the name of that ssh ftp scfp?
[01:03] <Flannel> linopil: he's being facetious
[01:03] <lupine_85> no, seriously. I've broken sudo quite a lot recently
[01:03] <hikenboot> hello all ---found this thread http://www.archivum.info/ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com/2005-02/msg00342.html it talks about creating dummy meta packages for openoffice inside ubuntu-desktop...but its not very specific anyone know of any more information on this?
[01:03] <JosefK> UncleD: sftp or scp ?
[01:03] <UncleD> ah
[01:03] <Flannel> lupine_85: stop using it wrong then
[01:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> lupine_85, stop typing "sudo visudo"
[01:03] <billybennett> Can someone help me with a Dual Boot installation of Ubuntu??
[01:03] <linopil> in fedora I have to make visudo to include first common user in sudo wheel
[01:03] <Flannel> !tell billybennett about dualboot
[01:04] <lupine_85> erm, it breaks if you change the hostname
[01:04] <linopil> there is a group there  in FC5 called wheel
[01:04] <lupine_85> it breaks in all manner of circumstances
[01:04] <imc_> hi, trying to view what is using tcp:139 at the moment; I thought I remembered doing lsof -i tcp:139 but that ain't it. Anyone?
[01:04] <royal> ok I have kubuntu 64 bit I386 on a gateway computer. I want to install Wine on it (DLed from linuxgamers). the gateway does NOT have internet access, so I have to use a jumpdrive. how dO I install it?
[01:04] <billybennett> Flannel, I just did the guide but I'm having trouble getting back to Ubuntu
[01:04] <Telroth_Plushie|> Flannel, his problem is that after setting up dualbooting, init can no longer find the root fs
[01:04] <bimberi> linopil: in ubuntu the group is 'admin'.  the user created during install is a member
[01:04] <Flannel> billybennett: you installed windows second?
[01:04] <linopil> to me sounds unnatural to completely hide root
[01:04] <linopil> what is the trick?
[01:05] <billybennett> Flannel, no.
[01:05] <Flannel> linopil: well, there's no real need for it,
[01:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Flannel, [18:00:57]  <billybennett> Hello, I've just dual booted Ubuntu and Windows and everything seemed to have worked but I switched back to Ubuntu and when loading the checks (ok..ok..ok) Mounting Root File System and Waiting for Root File System dont say okay and its froze
[01:05] <bimberi> linopil: hide? it's there. it just doesn't have a password
[01:05] <lupine_85> anyway... in other questions: if a network driver is compiled into the kernel, how do I get it to create an interface?
[01:05] <JosefK> linopil: it was proven around the 17th century that there's no connection between something being 'natural', and something being 'correct'
[01:05] <bimberi> linopil: 'sudo -i' will get you a root shell
[01:05] <hikenboot> hello all--back again got booted xchat crashed...anyone with any ideas?
[01:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell linopil about root
[01:05] <linopil> natural = existing
[01:05] <royal> ok I have kubuntu 64 bit I386 on a gateway computer. I want to install Wine on it (DLed from linuxgamers). the gateway does NOT have internet access, so I have to use a jumpdrive. how dO I install it?
[01:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> hikenboot, stop using xchat?
[01:05] <imc_> !ubotu tell linopil about root
[01:06] <linopil> root user is existing
[01:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> royal, do you have a amd64.deb file?
[01:06] <Flannel> linopil: it does exist, it's just disabled
[01:06] <hikenboot> no ...thats not what i am refering too...im refering to my previous post about 30-40 lines back
[01:06] <imc_> anyone on my lsof -i?
[01:06] <linopil> please don't flame me I want to understand
[01:06] <royal> not that I know of
[01:06] <Flannel> linopil: read the link ubotu sent you, it explains a good deal of it
[01:06] <royal> I just installed it two days ago
[01:06] <royal> (kubuntu that is)
[01:06] <tokenbad> anyone know what this means?  bash: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied  the command was done with sudo
[01:06] <Flannel> billybennett: whats your partition setup?
[01:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> royal, i don't believe you can easily install wine on a 64bit system
[01:06] <bimberi> linopil: yes it does exist - reading the page in the /msg from ubotu will explain more
[01:06] <linopil> So you flannel if you wanted could you re-enable root?
[01:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> you need to create a chroot and install a 32bit copy into that chroot
[01:07] <Flannel> linopil: right, but there's no reason to.
[01:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> linopil, yes, "sudo passwd"
[01:07] <royal> hmmm so should I format my HDD and go to 32 bit then?
[01:07] <billybennett> Flannel, in terms of what?  Ive got ext3 and a linux swap and NTFS for XP
[01:07] <linopil> going to read
[01:07] <twistedwrench> check folder/file ownership i think
[01:07] <royal> just out of curisoty, what advantages does the 64 bit version bring then?
[01:07] <Flannel> billybennett: break it down hda1 etc etc, don't need sizes, just locations and what's on them.
[01:07] <linopil> telroth sudo passwdwill re-enable
[01:07] <lupine_85> nobody know?
[01:07] <Flannel> linopil: it's on that page ;)
[01:08] <JosefK> royal: more registers, that's the only noticable advantage for most users
[01:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> linopil, it will - it's not needed, so don't use it ;) helps keep a better system
[01:08] <royal> oh.
[01:08] <billybennett> Flannel, I'm not really sure :P I'm pretty familar with Ubuntu but this is my first time dual booting a different system
[01:08] <royal> so ok I guess I will. though how do I get rid of the 64 bit version?
[01:08] <chocwise> Hy, could you guys tell me, where I can download the Live-DVD Distro?
[01:08] <Flannel> chocwise: there are links at ubuntu.com/download
[01:08] <chocwise> I'm just able to find Live-CD Distro's. XD
[01:08] <JosefK> chocwise: they're all at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ somewhere
[01:09] <Flannel> chocwise: scroll down more, the DVDs are at the end
[01:09] <JosefK> chocwise: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[01:09] <twistedwrench> usb drives automounting ,anyone?
[01:09] <chocwise> Ah, thanks alot. Sorry for that stupid question. :9
[01:09] <JosefK> chocwise: although that latter link's to the alpha of edgy
[01:09] <imc_> Okay different question: How can I see what applictions are using tcp ports?
[01:09] <lostinc> When I right click on the trash can and select empty trash it doesnt empty and it doesnt give an error.
[01:09] <lostinc> Anyone know why
[01:10] <billybennett> lostinc, you probably need to delete everything with sudo rm in the trash folder
[01:10] <royal> so ok I guess I will. though how do I get rid of the 64 bit version?
[01:10] <tokenbad> I must be missing something...
[01:11] <lostinc> I have done that and yes it works but I dont think i should have to do that every time
[01:11] <twistedwrench> usb drives automounting ,anyone?
[01:11] <billybennett> lostinc, if the files were created as a privileged user you might.. I have to do it with tovid a video app
[01:11] <Flannel> lostinc: are you deleting things that are yours? or, do you need to sudo?
[01:12] <lostinc> they are mine
[01:13] <lostinc> and I can create a text file delete it and it would still need me to be the root
[01:13] <ph8> JosefK: what's LVM?
[01:13] <billybennett> Flannel, how can I find that info your talking about
[01:13] <JosefK> lostinc: logical volume management
[01:13] <linopil> Flannel: bimberi imc_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo perfect reading ! ty !
[01:13] <JosefK> lostinc: an abstraction mechanism, kinda like 'md' on solaris
[01:13] <imc_> Mmmm.
[01:13] <bimberi> linopil: np :)
[01:13] <ph8> do I have to use lvm for raid?
[01:14] <lostinc> hmm
[01:14] <ph8> i thought it was something for merging two drives together to appear as 1
[01:14] <bimberi> imc_: sudo netstat -plunt
[01:14] <ph8> but in the big drive sense rather than the raid1 mirroring sense
[01:14] <JosefK> ph8: if you're using software RAID, yes, LVM provides RAID for linux
[01:14] <ph8> oh nice
[01:14] <kthugalug> ok, im trying to download the java runtime enviroment, and i dont know where to save the download to
[01:14] <royal> how do I uninstall the 64 bit version? just run the 32 bit cd and use the same procedure I did for installing the 64 bit version?
[01:14] <ph8> right, i'm going to try and get to bed this time :)
[01:14] <JosefK> ph8: if it's hardware, you shouldn't have to worry about it by the time linux boots
[01:14] <javiolo> !tapes
[01:14] <ph8> hardware doesn't work
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tapes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <ph8> the motherboard advertised it but it doesn't support it
[01:14] <ph8> so software it is :)
[01:14] <JosefK> ph8: that's good, and you're better off with software anyway (imo)
[01:14] <javiolo> how can I use tapes on ubuntu ?
[01:14] <ph8> so i'm told
[01:14] <ph8> nn
[01:15] <kthugalug> well, it tells me i dont have access to my usr drive
[01:15] <lostinc> can anyone tell me the command line to empty the trash can
[01:15] <krazykit> lostinc: rm ~/.Trash/*
[01:15] <lupine_85> anyone at all know?
[01:16] <kthugalug> !jre
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <javiolo> !tape
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <krazykit> lupine_85: know what now?
[01:16] <kthugalug> can someone help me install the jre 1.4?
[01:16] <lostinc> Krazykit it says cannot remove it is a directory
[01:17] <krazykit> lostinc: add the -fr switches
[01:17] <JosefK> kthugalug: 1.5's backwards compatible?
[01:17] <lostinc> That worked
[01:17] <twistedwrench> !usb drives
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb drives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <kthugalug> uum, its the latest version, i just dont know where to save the downloaded files
[01:17] <lupine_85> krazykit: I'm trying to use Dapper as a guest OS in Xen, and the 'xennet' network driver is compiled into the kernel. It's not showing an interface on startup -- how do I get it to create one?
[01:17] <lostinc> I assume the r is recurrsive what is the f
[01:18] <lupine_85> I'm pretty sure that it's not just a xen-specific question
[01:18] <krazykit> lupine_85: erm.  yeah... sorry, don't know about creating interfaces :-/
[01:18] <JosefK> kthugalug: 1.4 is not the latest version
[01:18] <lupine_85> nm :)
[01:18] <twistedwrench> installing progs with wine
[01:18] <lupine_85> it seems that nobody else does either
[01:18] <krazykit> lostinc: force
[01:19] <lostinc> ohh ok
[01:19] <fatbrain> Anyone noticed a significant sound-quality drop when you run mutlitple sound-sources through alsa when you'r using A/D Converter instead of AC-Link?
[01:19] <krazykit> lostinc: it's a pretty dangerous command.  be careful with it
[01:19] <[jb] > what's the command to see if imap is running on my computer?
[01:19] <jpjacobs> [jb] , ps ax|grep imap
[01:24] <excitatory> i don't suppose anyone know where to get an aotuv oggenc deb?  i'm having a very hard time compiling it myself.
[01:25] <searayman> need help to run flash 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:25] <swim> anyone else notice that gnome-look.org has been down for a couple of days?
[01:26] <liquidten2> swim: works for me...
[01:26] <searayman> help with flash 9 in firefox please
[01:26] <swim> liquidten2: right now it does?
[01:26] <liquidten2> swim: I'm on it at this exact second.
[01:26] <swim> could you check for me?
[01:27] <DavidRussell> is this the place to ask questions?
[01:27] <searayman> anyone got flash 9 working?
[01:27] <blackline> I once had a program that allowed me to add extra right-click options in nautilus, cant remember the name. Anyone?
[01:27] <Flannel> searayman: flash 9 isn't out yet
[01:27] <Seveas> searayman, there is no flash 9 for linux
[01:27] <liquidten2> swim, it is definitely working for me, the issue may be with your ISP or your DNS settings  DavidRussellYes it is.
[01:27] <searayman> Flannel:  u can run it in wine
[01:28] <searayman> Seveas:  u can run it in wine
[01:28] <jazzrocker> !restricted
[01:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:28] <Seveas> searayman, sure, you can also sell your soul to the devil 
[01:28] <DavidRussell> when installing about halfway through the screen goes black with two white boxes... the hdd is still reading and now and then the cd will spin up... but nothing seems to happen?
[01:28] <DavidRussell> any ideas?
[01:28] <searayman> Seveas:  what?
[01:28] <swim> liquidten2: could you check for me?
[01:29] <hikenboot> anyone know a fix for RuntimeError: Installed debootstrap is older than in the previous version! error
[01:29] <DavidRussell> it's screwed up my grub bootloader and i can't get back into windows.. so if anyone could help i'd really appreciate it
[01:30] <fatbrain> !ntfs
[01:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:30] <eobanb> !grub
[01:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:30] <hikenboot> the debotstrap installed is the one from the apt-sources
[01:30] <billybennett> Anyone know why when I boot it the checks that say OK arent there??
[01:31] <MrJake> is there any way to boot in text mode in ubuntu so I can install the nvidia driver or is there a more simple way
[01:31] <DavidRussell> i really just want ubuntu to install.. has anyone gotten the black scren during install?
[01:31] <RobHu> Could someone please help me? I have setup a Ubuntu system in a domU and it has no eth0... i have debian and gentoo domUs and they all work fine :S
[01:31] <Feclar> Hi, I am trying to install Kubuntu/ubuntu however during the install process I can not load the X server (even in safe video mode) because it is out of sync, and I can not edit xorg.conf because its on a Cd
[01:31] <Feclar> MrJake: ctrl+alt+f1
[01:32] <DavidRussell> cd checks out fine :/
[01:33] <MrJake> feclar ctrl+alt+f1 at boot? or while in gnome?
[01:33] <Tonren> Guys, is there anything wrong/extraneous in my /etc/network/interfaces?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23386
[01:33] <Feclar> MrJake, log out of gnome then do that, then u can install it
[01:33] <MrJake> Feclar: thank mate your great help
[01:33] <spanky_> Hello all. Does anyone here use xdmpc to connect to a remote machine within their home network? And if so have you had any luck trying to forward audio along with the video?
[01:33] <Feclar> Mrjake, theres an easier way to do it then the way you are doing it thou
[01:33] <_sah_> Hello. Are there any plans to support Fusion MPT SAS devices in ubuntu server LTS any time soon?
[01:34] <RobHu> How can I do the equivalent of alias xennet eth0 in ubuntu? In debian you just put it in /etc/modules.conf
[01:34] <seehundnz> hi all
[01:34] <seehundnz> can anyone help me with freenx?
[01:34] <_sah_> We would like to use a Sun Fire 4100 with Ubuntu Server but we cannot even get it installed right now.
[01:35] <RobHu> ARGGH why do ubuntu have to be different? Why cant they just keep modules.conf like debian?!
[01:35] <Xaero_Vincent> When I try to log out or switch users.. my computer sometimes freezes before reaching GDM.. is there a way to fix this?
[01:36] <viator> what do ppl use to transfer files back and forth to their unmodified ipods?
[01:36] <viator> besides gtkpod
[01:36] <kthugalug> why cant i make a new folder in my usr directory?
[01:36] <Tonren> Guys, is there anything wrong/extraneous in my /etc/network/interfaces?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23386
[01:36] <hondje> kthugalug: You probably don't have permission. Try sudo mkdir
[01:37] <kthugalug> what does this do?
[01:38] <hondje> well, it makes a directory as root ... but honestly if you don't know that, you might want to be careful before playing around in /usr. You could break things badly
[01:38] <kthugalug> im in the root, i typed, su, then gave my password, so why wouldnt i be able to, do i have to do a command or something?
[01:39] <steveire> http://scipy.org/Installing_SciPy/Linux <<< Is it just me or do the atlas packages mentioned near the bottom of that page not exist?
[01:40] <kthugalug> is there a command i can use to put a java folder into my usr directory?
[01:40] <Xaero_Vincent> No one knows why X crashes when logging off a session?
[01:41] <kitche> Xaero_Vincent: well errors would help
[01:41] <jrib> kitche: what do you mean "in the root"?
[01:41] <DavidRussell> no one knows about the black screen during install? :(
[01:41] <jrib> kthugalug: what do you mean "in the root"?
[01:41] <Xaero_Vincent> there is no error.. the screen goes black and the keyboard locks up
[01:41] <kitche> lol jrib
[01:41] <jrib> kitche: sorry about that :)
[01:41] <kitche> Xaero_Vincent: there is probably an error in Xorg.0.log
[01:42] <kthugalug> uum, i need to create a file for the JRE, but im logged into root in terminal, does that not work?
[01:42] <Xaero_Vincent> what directory is that in?
[01:42] <jrib> !sudo > kthugalug
[01:42] <Gamkeiller> DavidRussell: did you check your CD with the media check thing at boot to make sure it burnt well
[01:42] <PM^> hello. my soundcad sometimes appears to just stop. xmms no longer plays anything and i get errors about alsa. is there any way to restart the sound server or something like that?
[01:42] <jazzrocker> what should i use to install kernel source for the current kernel?
[01:42] <jrib> kthugalug: I think that document might help you
[01:42] <DavidRussell> Gamkeiller: yes i did
[01:42] <jazzrocker> i'm looking at synaptic but i don't see the source for my kernel
[01:42] <kitche> Xaero_Vincent: /var/log
[01:43] <Gamkeiller> no clue then i have not had that problem but i thought i would ask
[01:43] <DavidRussell> i'm trying for the 5th time.. looks like its going further so lets hope :)  knock on wood
[01:43] <jazzrocker> !kernel
[01:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:43] <bimberi> jazzrocker: learch for linux-source
[01:43] <jazzrocker> bimberi, i did
[01:43] <bimberi> jazzrocker: *search (sorry)
[01:44] <jazzrocker> bimberi, i'm looking at linux-* right now
[01:44] <DavidRussell> definitely never got to 80% before
[01:44] <tuxtheslacker> hey. Is there anyone in here that can help me make a Qt Project in kdevelop?
[01:44] <tuxtheslacker> or is that off topic?
[01:44] <bimberi> !info linux-source
[01:44] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:44] <spanky_> Hello all. Does anyone here use xdmpc to connect to a remote machine within their home network? And if so have you had any luck trying to forward audio along with the video?
[01:44] <Gamkeiller> are you using the live CD
[01:44] <kthugalug> jrib: i already set up my root password and everything, do i have to login as a different user under "root"?
[01:44] <bimberi> jazzrocker: hm, you should see that package at least
[01:44] <BHSPitMonkey> does anyone know/think this card will work in ubuntu? http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200713+4294966643&Ne=303889&product_code=333618&Pn=54Mbps_WirelessG_PCI_Adapter
[01:45] <DavidRussell> Gamkeiller - me?
[01:45] <Georgiy> hello linux community, i seek help in setting up my wireless adapter wusb54g
[01:45] <Gamkeiller> yes
[01:45] <DavidRussell> nope
[01:45] <jazzrocker> bimberi, E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-23-386
[01:45] <Gamkeiller> ok
[01:45] <DavidRussell> looks like it's working this time :/
[01:45] <DavidRussell> lol
[01:45] <lupine_85> linux-source-2.6.15
[01:45] <grout__> anyone know of a nice gui way to use samba?
[01:45] <bimberi> jazzrocker: yes, try it with just 2.6.15
[01:45] <jrib> kthugalug: there's no need for a root password.  You can just use sudo to do everything.  But to login as root, you can do 'su -' and that should work.  Is that what you are doing and it is not working?
[01:46] <DavidRussell> i'll stick around cause last time i used this it didn't like my resolution or wireless lol
[01:46] <BHSPitMonkey> grout__, smb4k, perhaps, though it's kde-based
[01:46] <grout__> thanks
[01:46] <Gamkeiller> BHSPitMonkey: i would make sure it has a nice linux supported chip set first
[01:46] <kthugalug> thats what i did, in terminal, typed su, and then gave my password. i just need to know how to make a new file in the usr directory
[01:46] <Gamkeiller> so you do not have to use a rapper
[01:46] <billybennett> I need someones help fixing a boot partition I installed both Windows and Ubuntu and I think everything went sour when I went back to windows.. I'm reading the wikis but Im having trouble understanding
[01:46] <jrib> kthugalug: touch /path/to/file
[01:47] <IcemanV9> !wireless > Georgiy
[01:47] <BHSPitMonkey> Gamkeiller, well, I use ndiswrapper happily on the laptop
[01:47] <bimberi> grout__: System -> Administration -> Shared Folders  is quite useful
[01:47] <kthugalug> uum, im a n00b jrib, i need it more easy, so i can learn
[01:47] <kitche> kthugalug: mkdir but why make a new directory in /usr
[01:48] <billybennett> Can someone help me with a dual boot system? Please
[01:48] <kthugalug> the java install directions tell me to put it in usr/java
[01:48] <jrib> !java > kthugalug
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: whatca need
[01:48] <jrib> kthugalug: use those directions instead
[01:48] <kthugalug> alright... brb
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: Did you install XP first?
[01:49] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, I think my problem is Windows overwrote my boot loader.. but I'm in the wikis reading and I dont understand... Jack_Sparrow yes I did install XP first
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: then ubuntu...
[01:49] <tuxtheslacker> hey, I've noticed a huge increase in disk space usage, how can I see what files are taking up the largest portions of the drive?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: then reinstalled xp?
[01:49] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, no I'm stuck with no Ubuntu but windows works
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: So you need to reinstall grub
[01:49] <IcemanV9> tuxtheslacker: du -h <directory>
[01:49] <steveire> list ubuntu
[01:50] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, I believe so but with the wikis I'm having trouble understanding
[01:50] <kthugalug> what is the multiverse repository?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Do you know what partition you used for Ubuntu.
[01:50] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, /dev/hdc3
[01:50] <tuxtheslacker> IcemanV9, how would I order that from largest to smalles?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: Three drives in the system?
[01:51] <imc_> anyone know a good program to do secure delete, that is, erase like 50 times?
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: AND third partition on the third drive?
[01:51] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, no but I have /dev/hdc1 which is Windows  /dev/hdc2 linux swap and /dev/hdc3 is ext3
[01:51] <jrib> !multiverse > kthugalug
[01:51] <IcemanV9> tuxtheslacker: i haven't figure it out yet :/
[01:51] <DavidRussell> worked this time.. this is the goodluck irc room :P
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: /dev/hda3 I would understand
[01:51] <tuxtheslacker> oof. hahaha!
[01:52] <BDahl> To anyone: I am having a problem printing on (Ubuntu) networked machines to a (Ubuntu) Print server. I can print on the server but when i try to print on the 'client' machines it prints out weird information.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: Are you saying C because windows is on drive C
[01:52] <Gamkeiller> DavidRussell: well i glad it worked for you
[01:52] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, no Im reading from the Partition Editor in Ubuntu Live CD
[01:53] <DavidRussell> thanks Gamkeiller
[01:53] <varsendaggr> help
[01:53] <txp> sing apt-cache search gives me the names of some availible packages, how do i get future information with the search like version numbers etc?
[01:53] <txp> using*
[01:54] <imc_> anyone know a good program to do secure delete, that is, erase like 50 times?
[01:54] <EriK> dumb question for anybody using x-chat, since I upgraded to 2.6.6, it insists on using konq as a browser.  I have added firefox to it's "url handler" list, and it shows up on the menu and works, but "open link in browser" still does konq.
[01:54] <jrib> imc_: shred
[01:54] <imc_> thanks jrib
[01:55] <barata> anybody experiences problem with k3b & DVD-R sequential?
[01:55] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, did I tell you what you needed?
[01:55] <kitche> EriK: remove konq from xchat's url handler
[01:55] <barata> what actually the problem is?
[01:55] <barata> I downloaded NeroLINUX and can burn with the DVD-R Sequential
[01:55] <barata> why k3b cannot?
[01:55] <EriK> kitche: konq is not listed anywhere in the url handler
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: Can you go to a terminal and type this      fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:56] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, says doesnt contain a valid partition table
[01:56] <EriK> and yes, my "preferred application" for browsing is set to firefox, and urls from elsewhere (e.g. gnome-terminal) are handled properly
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: Can you go to a terminal and type this      fdisk -l /dev/hdc
 billybennett: Can you go to a terminal and type this      fdisk -l /dev/hda --> he his hda1 is running this is not gonna work
[01:57] <billybennett> Cannot open /dev/hdc  what about /dev/hdc and a number?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> no thats ok..
[01:57] <marx71> i want to move my gnome panels to the vertical sides of my screen. but all the text gets rotated as well. e.g., it is difficult to read time on the screen if it is not horizontal. how can i keep the text horizontal in a vertical panel?
[01:57] <Trae> E: Package xlibmesa-gl-dev has no installation candidate
[01:57] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, "cannot open /dev/hdc
[01:57] <Trae> anyone know what replaces this?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> He is running live... and not mounted...
[01:58] <EriK> prior to upgrading to edgy, I did not have this problem, the new variables are edgy and it's included gnome 2.6 and xchat 2.6.6
[01:58] <SuperMiguel> i have Linux and windows in my computer, the default boot is Linux how can i changed it to windows?
[01:58] <Clinton__> how come using Dapper I don't have such packages as java-package even tho looking at sources.list shows everything is enabled?
[01:59] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: edit the grub.conf file and set default to what ever is your windows
[01:59] <Gamkeiller> may be 0-4
[01:59] <Gamkeiller> 0 being linux
[01:59] <Gamkeiller> or first in the list
[01:59] <SuperMiguel> Gamkeiller:  how do i open grub.conf
[02:00] <hyperb0lix> Thought there wasn't a grub.conf in Ubuntu...
[02:00] <hyperb0lix> menu.lst
[02:00] <Gamkeiller> ok
[02:00] <EriK> SuperMiguel:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <Gamkeiller> ok menu.lst
[02:00] <Gamkeiller> sorry
[02:00] <Gamkeiller> i new to this distro sorry
[02:00] <EriK> edit it as root, then you might have to do update-grub as root as well
[02:00] <hyperb0lix> Ubuntu is awesome :)
[02:01] <marx71> i have been editing menu.lst in /boot/grub to change the default boot option.
[02:01] <Gamkeiller> like for me it would be 5
[02:01] <Gamkeiller> for windows
[02:01] <Gamkeiller> as i have 2 kernels
[02:01] <SuperMiguel> what do i have to change on it?
[02:01] <DavidRussell> why won't my wireless network work with ubuntu
[02:02] <Kazad> When installing ubuntu i get a bunch of green lines of my screen so i can't complete the installation, anyone know y
[02:02] <Kazad> on*
[02:02] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: you have to edit default
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> He is running live, PC boots straight to XP... tells me mbr no longer has grub.... Editing the default OS in grub will not solve his problem.
[02:03] <IcemanV9> !wireless > DavidRussell
[02:03] <EriK> SuperMiguel:  at the top there will be a line like: "default         0
[02:03] <EriK> "
[02:03] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, I'm in the Partition Manager and I see /dev/hdc1-3 but no boot partition is that my problem
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> I am exhausted so I will sit back and watch.. and learn..
[02:03] <Gamkeiller> oook ok
[02:03] <SuperMiguel> Gamkeiller: it dont let me open default
[02:03] <EriK> you probably want that to be something OTHER then 0, only you know the answer to that
[02:03] <Gamkeiller> well back to my robot
[02:03] <EriK> first line under the comment block at the top, miguel
[02:04] <SuperMiguel> it says couldn't display
[02:04] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:04] <kitche> billybennett: you won't see the MBR
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: I am too tired to continue, it has been a long day...
[02:05] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: you need to use your editor in root mode
[02:05] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, alrighty.. well thanks though man
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> found it
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> ok it says
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> default 0
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> which one is windows :A
[02:05] <billybennett> kitche, you familar with Dual Booting and fixing grub?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks kitche
[02:05] <Kazad> i get green lines whent rying to install ubuntu. Anyone know why?
[02:05] <marx71> anyone here knows how to move around gnome panels?
[02:05] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: look at your file
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: If all else fails.. DL the super grub reapir CD...
[02:06] <EriK> miguel: just count, it starts at 0
[02:06] <orphean> marx71: Easiest way is to middle-click them and drag
[02:06] <kitche> billybennett: I m very familar with it
[02:06] <EriK> if you get it wrong, it's easy to fix
[02:06] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: then count all your lines with "title"
[02:06] <Clinton__> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 is non-existant
[02:06] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb says "Remove the old package.  (why?)" - is that needed?
[02:06] <jazzrocker> !flash
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[02:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:06] <Clinton__> according to wget
[02:06] <orphean> marx71: or click both left and right mousebuttons at the same time and drag if you don't have a middle mouse button.
[02:06] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: there in base ten so the frist is 0
[02:06] <marx71> i want to have the panels on the sides.
[02:06] <marx71> problem is that it twists the text as well
[02:06] <billybennett> kitche, what I think happened was I installed XP then Ubuntu made a linux-swap and ext3 partition.. then went back to windows which was fine.. but when I went to go back to Ubuntu when it first loads the self checks that say OK dont show up and freeze
[02:07] <SuperMiguel> can it be 6?
[02:07] <reitzell> I messed up my sound trying to get mythtv going. Any idea on what I can try to get it back? being a newbie the only thing I can think of is rebuild my box.
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all...Play nice
[02:07] <Gamkeiller> it may
[02:07] <marx71> impossible to read say time on the clock if the text is not horizontal
[02:07] <infidel> how do i add admin to cups?
[02:07] <reitzell> good night jack
[02:07] <kitche> billybennett: did you do anything while in windows with the partitions?
[02:08] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: mine would be 6
[02:08] <Gamkeiller> too
[02:08] <billybennett> kitche, the only thing I can think of was I added my other HD back into the box
[02:08] <reitzell> and I'll do it too
[02:08] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: i have 7 title lines
[02:08] <SuperMiguel> hey
[02:08] <SuperMiguel> when i changed it how can i save it?
[02:09] <Gamkeiller> SuperMiguel: what editor
[02:09] <SuperMiguel> sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:09] <Gamkeiller> ok
[02:09] <SuperMiguel> GNU nano
[02:09] <Gamkeiller> ctrl o
[02:09] <Gamkeiller> then ctrl x to exit
[02:09] <kitche> billybennett: I would grab this ttp://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html and see if you can repair it
[02:09] <SuperMiguel> ok
[02:09] <SuperMiguel> ill be back
[02:09] <dk06> hey
[02:10] <dk06> how do you hide icons on desktop
[02:10] <dk06> in dapper
[02:10] <ZeroOn1> is theer a way to drag a window to another desktop?
[02:10] <marx71> orphean: i do not want the text to be rotated. how do i do that?
[02:10] <Gamkeiller> ok guys time for me to head home thanks for the help
[02:11] <Seveas> dk06, go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor
[02:11] <dk06> ty
[02:11] <marx71> can anyone help me with gnome panels?
[02:11] <haully> hi, i get this no-sound problem while running enemy territory on dapper: /dev/dsp: Input/output error.Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[02:11] <ZeroOn1> is there anyway to drag a window to another desktop?
[02:11] <Seveas> !anyone > marx71
[02:11] <dk06> i dont have a folder called nautilus
[02:12] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, rightclick on the panel button or click on the top left icon
[02:12] <h> Seveas, beat me to it.
[02:12] <ZeroOn1> Seveas: cant just drag it?
[02:12] <Seveas> dk06, are you using kubuntu perhaps
[02:12] <dk06> no
[02:12] <dk06> there is nothing in my apps folder
[02:12] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, not with default ubuntu
[02:12] <benkong2> Could someone tell me where the icon located by the Application menu is in the file system? Mine is missing ubuntu 6.06LTS
[02:12] <dk06> im using ubuntu
[02:12] <dk06> 6.10
[02:12] <ZeroOn1> Seveas:  what would i need to set up something like that?
[02:12] <rushfan> Who here has a 5th gen ipod that they use with ubuntu/linux?
[02:12] <dk06> dapper
[02:12] <Seveas> dk06, are you in gconf-editor, and NOT in the filesystem?
[02:13] <dk06> no im not
[02:13] <dk06> sorry
[02:13] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, I forgot the name of the blasted tool :/
[02:13] <ZeroOn1> ah D:
[02:13] <ZeroOn1> okae..
[02:13] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, hang on..
[02:13] <Tonren> Can someone help me understand /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:14] <libervisco> Did you guys ever hear of gmrun?
[02:14] <Ash-Fox> Tonren, I can, I spent just the last five hours on it here.
[02:14] <dk06> ok i foound the folder thanks
[02:14] <DavidRussell> still can't get wireless working.. looked @ the docs.. my card is supported
[02:14] <haully> hi, i get this no-sound problem while running enemy territory on dapper: /dev/dsp: Input/output error.Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[02:14] <Tonren> Ash-Fox: Mind if I PM you?
[02:14] <dk06> is there one thing i can check to hide all icons
[02:14] <dk06> there seems to be quite a few options
[02:14] <Ash-Fox> DavidRussell, type 'iwconfig', what do you see?
[02:15] <Ash-Fox> Tonren, sure.
[02:15] <Clinton__> why can't I install java-package ?
[02:16] <Ash-Fox> Clinton__, I don't know.
[02:16] <reitzell> My sound died a horrible death due to me trying to get mythtv running. I'm a newbie and not sure what to do to troubleshoot my sound. Any ideas?
[02:16] <bimberi> Clinton__: do you have multiverse enabled
[02:16] <hyperb0lix> Hmm, my ET freezes when I run it
[02:16] <hyperb0lix> I just play Tremulous now
[02:16] <bimberi> !multiverse > Clinton__
[02:16] <Clinton__> yes I do
[02:16] <Clinton__> multiverse is enabled
[02:16] <DavidRussell> Ash-Fox - lo eth1 sit0 all no wireless extensions...  eth0 says "unassociated ESSID:"russell" ..
[02:16] <DavidRussell> bunch of 0's
[02:16] <DavidRussell> for the rest of the things
[02:17] <Clinton__> hrm.. only on backports, how fracked is that
[02:17] <h> *conversing*
[02:17] <dk06> i see that i can hide my computer icon, and so on, but how do i hide files that i downloaded to desktop
[02:17] <bimberi> Clinton__: ah yes.  _that_ issue
[02:17] <Clinton__> bimberi: ?
[02:17] <dk06> i just want a clear desktop
[02:17] <DavidRussell> i "set it up" using the inyerface
[02:18] <dk06> thats all
[02:18] <DavidRussell> but i've got nothign
[02:18] <hyperb0lix> Change the Firefox download dir
[02:18] <DanaG> (it's a package in SuSE that lets you use XMMS vis plugins with Amarok)
[02:18] <liquidten2> dk06: Just rename the files by putting a "." in front of them to make them hidden, or you could simply download stuff into ~/ instead of ~/Desktop.
[02:18] <bimberi> Clinton__: the default sources.list doesn't come with commented lines for non-backports multiverse
[02:18] <Clinton__> bimberi: no, it doesn't.  And for those who prefer to not use the GUI, it can be a pain to know what to add
[02:18] <dk06> hmm, so theres no option like in windows, to hide desktop icons
[02:18] <dk06> ?
[02:19] <DavidRussell> it sees all the netwrosk under the dropdown in the interface properties.. so the card is working
[02:19] <brian98> Hi everyone, I'm having real trouble with rdesktop hanging x, anyone else having this.. I think it's a major bug
[02:19] <dk06> there are some things that i cannot move to ~
[02:19] <dk06> such as my cd rom icon
[02:19] <bimberi> Clinton__: exactly.  Anyway if you're editing the file, add multiverse to any line with universe on it
[02:19] <liquidten2> dk06: What's the point of saving files to your desktop though if you don't want to actually see them on your desktop?
[02:20] <dk06> because i have links to them in my panel
[02:20] <hyperb0lix> ;x
[02:20] <h> x;
[02:20] <dk06> i just want to hide the desktop icons
[02:20] <Clinton__> bimberi: already did :)
[02:20] <DavidRussell> why doesn't ubuntu like wep keys >_<
[02:20] <brian98> left channel by mistake (doh!)
[02:21] <libervisco> Where is mplayer in Ubuntu? It doesn't show on search in synptic
[02:21] <bimberi> Clinton__: k :)  btw sun java5 is available in the repositories - 'apt-cache search sun-java'
[02:21] <dk06> run it in terminal
[02:21] <reitzell> you have to install mplayer
[02:21] <h> hyperb0lix, your elite.
[02:21] <dk06> but i suggest you get beep_media_player
[02:21] <hyperb0lix> ...
[02:21] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, meh, I really can't remember its name :/
[02:21] <reitzell> mine is in /usr/bin
[02:21] <hyperb0lix> Have you tried moc?
[02:21] <hyperb0lix> It's really neat
[02:21] <libervisco> reitzell, that's what I mean, it doesn't show in synaptic, as if it's not available from repos
[02:21] <ZeroOn1> Seveas:  okay lol
[02:22] <h> Believe this, I _actually_ had somone ask me erlier "Is there a VB IDE for Linux"  I wanted to slap them.  E-Slap.
[02:22] <dk06> anyone know how to hide/unhide desktop icons?
[02:22] <hyperb0lix> Eww... VB
[02:22] <hyperb0lix> :/
[02:22] <dk06> u know, like in windows
[02:22] <h> Indeed.
[02:22] <h> I told them, Learn C, and they quit talking.
[02:22] <lupine_85> C--
[02:23] <hyperb0lix> dk06: You can't other than by making them all hidden files or changing your FF download dir
[02:23] <Clinton__> bimberi: got it, thank you
[02:23] <DavidRussell> Can anyone help me with wireless? :(  Sorry to be a pain
[02:23] <h> Ironic how this person _constantly_ bashes windows.
[02:23] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, it's called brightside
[02:23] <dk06> sheesh thats not cool
[02:23] <bimberi> Clinton__: np :)
[02:23] <sorush20> I can't log into my gnome seesion.. it loads half way and it dosen't work well..
[02:23] <brian98> !wireless > davidrussell
[02:23] <DavidRussell> brian, i've already looked there
[02:23] <ZeroOn1> this may be an unrelated question, but what type of mail server would gmail be...i'm trying to set up my gmail for evolution..
[02:23] <dk06> you'd think a lot of people like clean desktops
[02:23] <sorush20> I'm using kubuntu now.. I have the ubuntu package installed..
[02:23] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, pop3 with ssl and smtp with ssl
[02:23] <lupine_85> DavidRussell: what's the chipset?
[02:23] <DavidRussell> i can't get it working / follow those docs
[02:24] <DavidRussell> it's the intel wireless pro 220
[02:24] <DavidRussell> 2200
[02:24] <dk06> i think kde had an option to hide icons
[02:24] <ZeroOn1> Seveas:  thanks
[02:24] <brian98> have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <DavidRussell> says it's supported out of the box :/
[02:24] <dk06> gnome takes some time getting used to
[02:24] <lupine_85> yes, the modules is in the kernel
[02:24] <Clinton__> thats what I get for missing part of it
[02:24] <Clinton__> flyball!
[02:24] <Clinton__> drp it!
[02:24] <DavidRussell> what's that?
[02:24] <Seveas> ZeroOn1, apt-get install brightside, then you can drag everything everywhere
[02:24] <lupine_85> do you have an interface in iwconfig ?
[02:24] <bimberi> ZeroOn1: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[02:24] <brian98> !ndiswrapper
[02:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:24] <Clinton__> wrong channel :)
[02:24] <h> hyperb0lix, I also had somone erlier today tell me Mac OSX "owned" [they're particular word of choice]  all other OS's.
[02:24] <brian98> erm
[02:24] <brian98> one sec
[02:24] <imc_> I need  a shred program that works recursively - anyone
[02:24] <imc_> ?
[02:25] <codecaine> hi
[02:25] <james296> why cant I add extra screen resolutions that are supported by my graphics card???
[02:25] <h> I didn't say anything.  I just walked away, no sence in argueing.
[02:25] <DavidRussell> it sees my ssid.. i just can't connect to it
[02:25] <james296> I already tried that auto configure thing for xorg.conf
[02:25] <codecaine> im trying to see how many fps I get on my machine I tried glxgears like on gentoo but it doesn't show it on ubuntu the fps
[02:25] <jvai> hey ppl
[02:25] <CarlFK> imc_: shred?
[02:25] <lupine_85> DavidRussell: do you have any sort of encryption on the AP ?
[02:25] <imc_> shred has no recursive option...
[02:25] <kitche> DavidRussell: well you sure it's wep and not WPA
[02:25] <brian98> davidrussell: disable wep and anything other security
[02:25] <james296> I have a nvidia Geforce 7300 GS
[02:25] <brian98> and try and connect
[02:25] <DavidRussell> it's WEP
[02:26] <Tonren> Does anyone know a line of code that will detect if there is an active ethernet cable plugged into the network card?
[02:26] <brian98> then start adding the security back in
[02:26] <Seveas> imc_, use find in combination with shred
[02:26] <lupine_85> DavidRussell: you need to feed it your key then
[02:26] <imc_> Seveas, thanks, but I dont understand, can you be more specific? And hi, long time no talk.
[02:26] <james296> well?
[02:26] <lupine_85> sudo iwconfig <interface> key <key>
[02:26] <lupine_85> if your key is ASCII, prefix it with s:
[02:26] <codecaine> anybody know?
[02:27] <h> ;x
[02:27] <Seveas> imc_, find /path/to/dir/to/be/destroyed -type f -exec rm "{}" ";"
[02:27] <bimberi> codecaine: glxgears -printfps
[02:27] <james296> can someone help me PLZ?
[02:27] <hyperb0lix> imc_: Make sure you use xargs with find
[02:27] <Seveas> imc_, read the manual for find to be sure
[02:27] <hyperb0lix> :)
[02:27] <Seveas> hyperb0lix, noooo
[02:27] <hyperb0lix> ?
[02:28] <Seveas> find's -exec is less error prone
[02:28] <imc_> righto, thanks Seveas and hyperb0lix
[02:28] <hyperb0lix> Really?
[02:28] <Seveas> yes
[02:28] <hyperb0lix> I thought xargs was safer
[02:28] <Seveas> no
[02:28] <Seveas> many people forget to use find -print0 and xargs -0
[02:28] <lupine_85> DavidRussell: once your key is in (and assuming you're using DHCP), sudo dhclient <interface> should get you connected
[02:28] <hyperb0lix> I'll take your advice and use the -exec switch
[02:29] <lupine_85> let me know how it goes
[02:29] <codecaine> bimberi: paramerter not found
[02:29] <james296> HELLO???
[02:29] <Seveas> hybrid, always test with -exec echo "{}" ";" before running shred ;)
[02:29] <miked595> sup channel
[02:29] <Seveas> !someone > james296
[02:29] <brian98> tonren: http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/ifplugd/
[02:29] <codecaine> I mean doesn't show fps
[02:29] <Seveas> brian, ifplugd is almost obsolete
[02:30] <miked595> anyone get the broadcom 4318 working on an HP dv8000?
[02:30] <brian98> can't think of anything else?
[02:30] <hybrid> Seveas: i dont wanna run shred ;) but maybe hyperb0lix
[02:30] <james296> that doesnt help cuz I already looked for the answer myself thank you
[02:30] <Seveas> miked595, 4318 won't work with bcm43xx, are you using ndiswrapper?
[02:30] <Seveas> hybrid, <tab> key caught me
[02:30] <hyperb0lix> ?
[02:31] <miked595> tried... lspci shows it though.. i thought the new kernel was supposed to support it
[02:31] <hybrid> Seveas: figured
[02:31] <bimberi> codecaine: hmm, works here
[02:31] <james296> how can I add more resolutions on my system seriously
[02:31] <james296> the xorg.conf configurater doesnt do anything for that
[02:32] <Seveas> miked595, not the 4318 chip unfortunately
[02:32] <james296> it lets me choose but doesnt enable them
[02:32] <codecaine> :/
[02:32] <kitche> james296: what res are you at now and your video card
[02:32] <bimberi> codecaine: no typo?
[02:32] <kitche> james296: I usually edit the xorg.conf directly
[02:32] <james296> 1024x768
[02:32] <DanaG> Oh, who was asking about hiding volumes on desktop?
[02:32] <miked595> Seveas, know anything that does?
[02:32] <Seveas> miked595, ndiswrapper
[02:32] <EriK> james: just modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file directly, make a backup first
[02:32] <Seveas> but you'll need to blacklist bcm43xx
[02:33] <EriK> kitche gmta
[02:33] <james296> I normally have it at 1440x900
[02:33] <kitche> Erik what is gmta?
[02:33] <james296> how can I set it at that, and the logon screen the way it is now?
[02:33] <miked595> i tried that but the bcmwl5 doesn't work
[02:33] <DanaG> Well, whoever it was, gconf-editor is the answer.
[02:33] <EriK> great minds think alike
[02:33] <bimberi> codecaine: try 'glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'  (yes, seriously)
[02:34] <miked595> Seveas, I found the BCMWL5.SYS on my windows partition
[02:34] <Seveas> (bimberi: -printfps also wirks)
[02:34] <EriK> bimberi:  how is that different from -printfps ?
[02:34] <serkan`c> is ther anyone using edgy eft and having a problem about mplayer playing *some* movies?
[02:34] <lupine_85> doesn't work :(
[02:34] <kitche> james296: but what is your video card by chance since certain drivers can only go up so high
[02:34] <miked595> Seveas, could I use that?
[02:34] <Seveas> miked595, do you have the bcmwl5.inf too?
[02:34] <bimberi> Seveas: EriK: i know, but printfps isn't working for codecaine
[02:34] <lupine_85> neither of them work for me :(
[02:34] <james296> NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
[02:34] <phaedrus44> tokenbad:   hey wussssup doood
[02:34] <EriK> oh, did not realize that.....odd, works for me in edgy
[02:35] <EriK> james: does glxgears work at all?
[02:35] <brian98> 1584 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.751 FPS
[02:35] <serkan`c> are there ant seperate edgy eft channel?
[02:35] <james296> I know for a fact this one goes that high because I was able to on Windows
[02:35] <brian98> is that good or bad?#
[02:35] <Noumaan> Hello I am not a programmer or coder but I an open source project has assigned me responsibility to work on a project managed using Subversion. Is there a gnome tool to work on Subversion server?
[02:35] <kitche> james296: and you have the nvidia drivers and not using nv
[02:35] <james296> thats how it was set
[02:35] <bimberi> serkan`c: #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <miked595> Seveas, i'm not sure where to find the one on my windows partiton. I could find one online but don't think it'll work with my install
[02:35] <serkan`c> thanks bimberi
[02:35] <james296> well, it ALWAYS automatically sets it back to nv for some reason...
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how can i install a creative sound blaster live!-bit
[02:35] <bimberi> serkan`c: np :)
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> 5.1
[02:35] <DanaG> Hmm, using nvidia drivers:
[02:35] <codecaine> maybe theres another program like glxgears?
[02:35] <james296> even though I set it manually to that
[02:36] <DanaG> Perhaps you're having edid issues.
[02:36] <grout> how can i get xmms to prompt me for a password on .htaccess sites?
[02:36] <kitche> james296: well did you install the nvidia drivers? since that's what you need to use higher res
[02:36] <james296> yes I did...
[02:36] <DanaG> james296: What's the manufacturer?
[02:36] <james296> for what?
[02:37] <DanaG> (if it's a laptop)
[02:37] <bimberi> codecaine: 'glxinfo | grep direct' will tell you if h/w acceleration (direct rendering) is working
[02:37] <james296> its a custom PC my friend helped me made
[02:37] <DanaG> aah, then that's less likely to be the issue.
[02:37] <james296> so whats goin on then??
[02:38] <codecaine> direct rendering: Yes
[02:38] <james296> its really annoying lol
[02:38] <codecaine> just wanted to see how fast it was
[02:38] <codecaine> I kinda knew it was configured right
[02:38] <jojoman02> can i use a virtual machine to play 3d games within ubuntu??
[02:38] <james296> why would I be having this problem?
[02:39] <jojoman02> if so, which ones?
[02:39] <bimberi> codecaine: sorry, i'm out of ideas :|
[02:39] <jojoman02> i dont mind pay ones
[02:39] <grout> how can i get xmms to prompt me for a password on .htaccess sites?
[02:39] <DanaG> james296: Try this: http://koala.ilog.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines
[02:39] <jmac__> Is anyone having sound problems with compiz? It seems as soon as any compiz feature, such as a cube move, wobbly kick in messes up sound. I can't listen to music at all
[02:39] <codecaine> I appreciate you help though thanks bimberi
[02:39] <DanaG> Perhaps your monitor doesn't give a proper EDID.
[02:39] <bimberi> codecaine: yw :)
[02:39] <DanaG> You'll have to override it with a custom modeline.
[02:40] <james296> what do I do? lol
[02:42] <DanaG> Well, first take a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:42] <DanaG> and see if it says anything about modes -- search for the word "mode" (I use gedit).
[02:42] <adrigen> does anyone know where plone gets installed if you do it from the package manager?
[02:43] <james296> permission denied even as root...
[02:43] <miked595> Seveas, ok i found the drive from HPs site and it has the inf and the sys
[02:43] <varsendaggr> adrigen, what is plone?
[02:43] <DanaG> james296: Oh, and if all else fails, use the utility "powerstrip" in Windows --
[02:43] <adrigen> it is a content management system that runs on zope :)
[02:44] <DanaG> if you look at "custom settings" for the current resolution, it can copy info to the clipboard.
[02:44] <varsendaggr> it may be in /usr/bin
[02:44] <DanaG> One of those things will be the modeline that would work.
[02:44] <varsendaggr> adrian_s, try locate plone
[02:45] <royal> how do I install the Wine DEB from repo? I have a gateway which I can't give internet acess to. (in use by another computer)
[02:45] <james296> but thats not free...
[02:45] <DaveyJ> helloooo
[02:46] <DanaG> It is free for the purposes we want.
[02:46] <DanaG> Here's a how-to that may help:
[02:46] <DanaG> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Working_with_Modelines
[02:46] <james296> so is there a permanent easy way for me to solve that problem???
[02:46] <Ash-Fox> PRobably.
[02:46] <adrigen> varsen: yeah strangely it doesnt come up in locate. is 'locate' case sensitive?
[02:47] <DanaG> Powerstrip will nag you at startup, but you should only need to run it once to get the info.
[02:47] <codecaine> why is firefox so slow on linux but fast on windows even hangs on myspaces pages on linux :/ I have graphics accell too
[02:47] <james296> Im talkin about like next time I like had to re install Ubuntu...
[02:48] <DanaG> er, that howto is not it...
[02:48] <kitche> codecaine: it'
[02:48] <james296> I wouldnt want to go through the whole thing again
[02:48] <kitche> codecaine: it's not slow maybe your compute might be having memory leaks
[02:48] <DaveyJ> i'm about to build a backup server.. do you think ubuntu is a good choice of OS? or does anyone have any other opinions?
[02:48] <codecaine> naw
[02:48] <davidrussell> anyone familiar with 915resolution?
[02:48] <codecaine> I have 2 gigs of memory
[02:48] <DanaG> aah, better: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/mythhd.php
[02:48] <royal> how do I install the Wine DEB from repo? I have a gateway which I can't give internet acess to. (in use by another computer)
[02:49] <DanaG> ("the powerstrip route")
[02:49] <kitche> codecaine: well firefox does leak a lot of memory
[02:49] <codecaine> so maybe it is firefox then
[02:49] <med> hi
[02:50] <DanaG> Oh, and you shouldn't have to adjust the already working 1440x900 in windows -- just look around in the settings and copy to clipboard.
[02:50] <codecaine> is there any other good webbrowsers to use ?
[02:50] <royal> how do I install the Wine DEB from repo? I have a gateway which I can't give internet acess to. (in use by another computer). the people from #wineHQ told me to come here
[02:52] <jmhodges> hey, i just installed Dapper 6.06.1 but i'm having an issue.. as soon as we get past the loading scene to boot up gdm, my lcd monitor tells me its out of range
[02:52] <jrib> codecaine: I like epiphany.  You might want to try dillo, kazehakase, and opera too
[02:52] <jmhodges> i tried using the rescue disc to set xorg.conf to 1280x1024 @ 60Hz but that doesnt seem to be working
[02:52] <davidrussell> where is xorg.conf
[02:52] <jmhodges> (specifically, i set it to 43-70)
[02:53] <jmhodges> davidrussell /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:53] <jmhodges> anyone know what i could try?
[02:53] <jmhodges> i'm sitting on the cd in BitchX right now :-/
[02:54] <viator> is there a codec to be able to play songs from the ipod in their aac format for rythmbox
[02:54] <davidrussell> do i add 915 resolution in there somewhere?
[02:54] <royal> where can I download the Wine DEB or the deb that makes MP3 work from repo? I have a gateway which I can't give internet acess to. (in use by another computer). the people from #wineHQ told me to come here
[02:54] <tony14764> Anyone know how to get gxine to play smooth video?
[02:55] <jmhodges> royal the stuff on mp3 is in the ubuntu wiki
[02:55] <viator> you dont need wine for mp3
[02:55] <royal> no I need wine for other things
[02:55] <bruenig> royal, do you know the packages you want
[02:55] <jmhodges> royal use synaptic and search for "wine" or run apt-get install wine in the console
[02:56] <miked595> anyone get the broadcom 4318 working on an HP dv8000?
[02:56] <bruenig> jmhodges, he needs to use it for another computer
[02:56] <royal> I said the gateway doesn't have internet access, so I can't use APT-Get
[02:56] <jmhodges> bruenig agh
[02:56] <bruenig> royal, are you using ubuntu right now?
[02:56] <jmhodges> hrmph
[02:56] <royal> kubuntu, on the gateway
[02:57] <bruenig> royal, well on the computer you are on right now that has the computer, can you access the repositories?
[02:57] <bruenig> has the internet*
[02:57] <wtroche> I am trying to add repositories "Community Maintained (Universe)" and "Non-Free (Multiverse) but they are not staying checked after I click add, is there something I am missing
[02:57] <royal> the comp i'm on now runs Winxp
[02:57] <davidrussell> gah.. how can i copy a directory into /etc
[02:57] <davidrussell> i tried sudo cp but it says omitting directory?
[02:57] <kitche> you have to do cp -r
[02:58] <bruenig> royal, ok then your best shot is here although you better make sure you have all the dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:58] <cfh_dev> xubuntu doesn't see my soundblaster live card.  Where do I start debuggin?
[02:58] <bruenig> wtroche, you can enable these repos manually if you are having problem with the gui
[02:58] <davidrussell> thanks kitche.. i'm a newb :$
[02:58] <codecaine> how can you install updates in console instead of a gui mode
[02:58] <jmhodges> are ranges allowed on VertRefresh for an lCD monitor?
[02:58] <jrib> codecaine: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:58] <codecaine> ty
[02:59] <wtroche> ok, I think I can do that, I will follow the instructions on it., thanks bruenig
[02:59] <codecaine> ty
[02:59] <bruenig> wtroche, yeah it is pretty easy, just sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then remove the # that are in front of the universe and multiverse repo lines
[03:00] <dannyr> II am giving up on installing clamav because of install errors "clamav-daemon: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.88.2-1ubuntu1) but 0.88.4-0volatile1 is to be installed"  - Can anyone please recommend a different virus checker for debian dapper with postfix and spamassassin please?
[03:00] <davidrussell> wiki says that Added to /etc/default/915resolution: Mode=7e XRESU=1280 YRESU=800 .. to xorg.conf
[03:00] <davidrussell> where would i put that
[03:01] <surbahns> How can I in Bitchx prevent it from telling me every time someone changes their nick in a channel?
[03:01] <bruenig> davidrussell, xorg.conf is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <codecaine> how can I play wmv movies on mplayer?
[03:01] <codecaine> all I hear is sound
[03:01] <davidrussell> i know.. i meant where in the file
[03:01] <davidrussell> should i put that line?
[03:01] <bruenig> it probably doesn't matter
[03:02] <bruenig> but don't quote me on that, make sure you back up xorg.conf before you do anything
[03:02] <davidrussell> in a "section" tho?
[03:02] <fatbrain> May I nag someone to recomend a good IDE?
[03:03] <bruenig> davidrussell, right for most config files, the placement doesn't matter. As in you could put it anywhere. There is probably a logical place to put it so that you can associate with like parts, but for execution purposes most of the time it doesn't matter
[03:04] <davidrussell> but xorg.conf is broken up into sections
[03:04] <davidrussell> does it go in a "section"
[03:04] <davidrussell> or inbetween
[03:04] <simmerz> I'm trying to get postfix to talk to postgres via ssl, but I keep getting this in the postgres logs: LOG:  could not accept SSL connection: EOF detected
[03:04] <dannyr> codecaine: goto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and click on 5.4
[03:04] <bruenig> davidrussell, perhaps, the guide should say if it worth anything
[03:04] <surbahns> how can I in Bitchx tell it not to tell me each time someone changes their nick in a channel?
[03:06] <davidrussell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron700m?highlight=%28700m%29 just says "added to xorg.conf"
[03:06] <xyazabix> Flannel: You there?
[03:08] <kitche> davidrussell: you can probably add it anywhere as long as it's away from a #
[03:08] <davidrussell> okay
[03:08] <davidrussell> how do i kill x and restart it?
[03:08] <DanaG> ergh, some web site crashed my system.  or perhaps it was my sound card.
[03:09] <xyazabix> is there a gui interface for the ubuntu server?
[03:09] <simmerz> xyazabix: webmin?
[03:09] <miked595> evil wireless
[03:09] <miked595> xyazabix, plesk
[03:10] <xyazabix> Is it already installed?
[03:10] <iceman24k> !nvidia
[03:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:10] <bimberi> davidrussell: log out, ctrl-alt-f1, log in, 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[03:10] <xyazabix> sorry im a newb....
[03:10] <miked595> xyazabix, plesk? no...
[03:11] <miked595> xyazabix, what about the server are you trying to setup?
[03:11] <xyazabix> Is everything command line?
[03:11] <miked595> for the most part
[03:11] <xyazabix> Trying to set up the whole thing
[03:11] <xyazabix> wow, have a lot to learn
[03:12] <iceman24k> !nvidia
[03:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:12] <davidrussell> urm.. nothing worked
[03:12] <davidrussell> has anyone done 915resolution before?
[03:12] <miked595> xyazabix, you just trying to setup LAMP... Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[03:12] <shadowhywind> is there any nice and easy way to update alsa, if i complied alsa myself would i break anything?
[03:13] <xyazabix> i want to have users and mail as well
[03:13] <i2> Ai kra como eu fazo a instalao da minha placa de video da ati
[03:13] <bruenig> !es
[03:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:13] <davidrussell> uh oh, i broke it :(
[03:14] <jrib> !pt
[03:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:14] <miked595> xyazabix, you trying to setup professional hosting of just some personal stuff?
[03:15] <xyazabix> personal... im a windows 2003 guy, wanted to see how linux was...
[03:15] <miked595> you gotta jump in all comand line baby
[03:16] <xyazabix> miked595: wow.... lol
[03:16] <ProN00b> there are no "windows 2003 guys" there are only failed beeings
[03:16] <mistraal> install webmin.. it helps
[03:16] <IcemanV9> !webmin
[03:16] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:16] <miked595> xyazabix, the hardest part is just know what files to configure but after that it's easy
[03:16] <mistraal> ballz
[03:16] <i2> is from brazil
[03:16] <xyazabix> nice.... ProN00b
[03:16] <miked595> xyazabix, eww i hate webmin.. i think it just makes things harder
[03:16] <mistraal> webmin works fine in ubuntu
[03:16] <i2> tem algum brasileiro ?
[03:17] <jrib> i2: sim no #ubuntu-br
[03:17] <LKRaider> i2 oi
[03:17] <davidrussell> the 915resolution script works.. i jusst need a way of running it before x loads
[03:17] <davidrussell> any idea?
[03:17] <i2> oi
[03:17] <LKRaider> i2 vem pro ubuntu-br
[03:17] <i2> sim
[03:17] <i2> onde
[03:17] <viator> anyone use allofmp3.com
[03:17] <viator> ?
[03:17] <jrib> i2: escreve assim:   /join #ubuntu-br
[03:17] <LKRaider> i2 digita: /join #ubuntu-br
[03:17] <LKRaider> heh
[03:17] <miked595> mistraal, if im gonna use  control panel i like plesk
[03:18] <mistraal> yeah if you want to pay for it
[03:18] <miked595> but if you are gonna learn what is a control panel gonna do for you
[03:18] <i2>  /join #ubuntu-br
[03:18] <thin_> hello peoples
[03:18] <mistraal> webmin with small changes for apache2 works perfectly on my box
[03:18] <LKRaider>  /me
[03:18] <miked595> not saying it doesn't work
[03:18] <LKRaider> i2 sem o espao
[03:19] <ProN00b> webmin is funny
[03:19] <davidrussell> anyone know?
[03:19] <mistraal> miked595: I use webmin and virtalmin to help with my virtual domains ... there's no way I'm doing all that sh*t manually
[03:19] <iceman24k> how hard is the xgl configuration ?
[03:20] <bruenig> davidrussel, just get to a console. and then run it
[03:20] <xyazabix> mistraal: what do I need to do to use webmin?
[03:20] <bruenig> !xgl
[03:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:20] <xyazabix> miked595: does plesk cost?
[03:20] <lupine_85> it's good fun :)
[03:20] <viator> !offtopic
[03:20] <mistraal> 29.95/mo
[03:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:20] <Kazad> anyone know why when installing on partions stage ubuntu installation window just disapears
[03:21] <davidrussell> bruenig - i want it to run autoamtically when it starts up
[03:21] <billybennett> Can someone explain to me why Grub messes up when doing Dual Boot?   IMy Ubuntu installation on my other computer is almost done and I wanna know what I did last time to mess it up
[03:21] <bruenig> davidrussell, put it in /etc/init.d
[03:21] <mistraal> plesk is not cheap and doesn't work with mysql 5
[03:21] <miked595> mistraal, blah.. i'm not setting up webmin for 2 personal sites when I can just copy a couple conf files and point it to a doc root and bam i'm up
[03:21] <xyazabix> mistraal: webmin cost?!?!
[03:21] <davidrussell> hang on.. i found a better doc
[03:21] <mistraal> webmin is free
[03:21] <xyazabix> whats $$ then?
[03:21] <davidrussell> nice page in the wiki.. dunno why it didn't come up before lol
[03:22] <miked595> but i would suggest plesk for a professional hosting not for personal use
[03:22] <xyazabix> plesk cost?
[03:22] <mistraal> miked595: well I have more than a "couple" of sites
[03:22] <miked595> plesk you can host one site for free
[03:22] <AbortD> is there java for ubuntu?
[03:22] <miked595> xyazabix,  how many sites do you plan on hosting?
[03:22] <jrib> !java > AbortD
[03:22] <bimberi> !java
[03:22] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:22] <xyazabix> just one personal one
[03:23] <Kazad> anyone know why the installation window disappears?
[03:23] <AbortD> thanks
[03:23] <baconbacon> billybennett: what kind of "mess up"?
[03:23] <miked595> ok and you have apache installed?
[03:23] <xyazabix> yes
[03:23] <miked595> "cd /etc/apache2"
[03:23] <baconbacon> i really think ubotu should talk about update-alternatives for Sun Java
[03:24] <xyazabix> use it on my xp box right now... want to migrate and use dyndns
[03:24] <billybennett> baconbacon, earlier today I did a dual boot installation and it got hosed after booting XP again so I'm at the end and Ubuntu is almost done.. I'm just curious what had happened before
[03:24] <davidrussell> how do i enable universe repositories?
[03:24] <miked595> lol i can help with dyndns lol xpertdns.com
[03:24] <baconbacon> !universe
[03:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:24] <miked595> xyazabix, you in /etc/apache2?
[03:25] <xyazabix> yeah
[03:25] <i2> qual  a  sala brasileira mesma ?
[03:25] <i2> alguem sab hihihih
[03:25] <miked595> if you do and ls they have it set up so the sites that you host go into siteavailable and the sites you enable for hsoting go into sites-enabled
[03:26] <xyazabix> miked595: whats the fastest way, without typing it, to put your name in the chat
[03:26] <miked595> xyazabix, so if you go into sites-available you can setup your hsoting there
[03:26] <mcscruff> lo all, i installed with the livecd , is there anyway to remove firefox?
[03:26] <mistraal> i2 #ubuntu-br o #ubuntu-pt
[03:26] <miked595> couple lletters and tab
[03:27] <_tom_> sudo aptitude remove firefox
[03:27] <baconbacon> billybennett: That's weird, i can't say why booting Windows would break dual booting, all i can see is a reinstalling mbr virus maybe... Were you able to boot ubuntu at some point?
[03:27] <Kazad> Ubuntu doesn't seem to install properly
[03:27] <Kazad> can anyone help
[03:27] <iceman24k> wow, 6 downloads that seem to take forever :9
[03:27] <mcscruff> _tom_, in synaptic, it wants to remove everything
[03:28] <maple1> ubuntu
[03:28] <xyazabix> miked595:  then what???
[03:28] <billybennett> baconbacon, I was unable to boot after... but I'm re-doing it all but I was just curious what I could of done to mess it up
[03:28] <miked595> xyazabix, do you see the default file there
[03:28] <baconbacon> _tom_, mcscruff : sudo aptitude remove firefox will ask to remove ubuntu-desktop. That's fine but youll need to reinstall it before upgrading to edgy eft
[03:29] <cr3> how does ubuntu automount a cd when I insert it in the drive?
[03:29] <tokenbad> anyone know what this means?  bash: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied  the command was done with sudo
[03:29] <xyazabix> miked595:  yes
[03:29] <IcemanV9> mcscruff: is there a reason why you want to remove firefox??
[03:29] <iceman24k> Dang, next i have to mount a NTFS file system drive to get my Doc's off it
[03:29] <mcscruff> baconbacon, i dont want edgy :) ,  i want everthing i have atm - firefox
[03:29] <mcscruff> IcemanV9, coz its crap
[03:30] <miked595> xyazabix, that's basically all you need to run apache. you can copy the file and setup different document root for each site so they can have their own seperate sites but since you are only going to use one you can use that one ... less default and you can see what in it
[03:30] <_tom_> then use sudo apt-get remove firefox, that will do the trick i think :)
[03:30] <Kazad> can't get ubuntu to install can anyone help?
[03:30] <iceman24k> Can you use vnc to transfer files between windows and linux
[03:30] <IcemanV9> mcscruff: well, don't use it. use other browser :)
[03:30] <CarlFK> Kazad: that isn't much to go on :)
[03:30] <baconbacon> mcscruff: you can remove mozilla-firefox. don't forget to setup a new default browser (look in system->preferences)
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> are there any good ascii art generators (from a picture) for linux?
[03:30] <marx71> i have a dual boot machine with winxp and ubuntu
[03:31] <CarlFK> Megaqwerty: gimp, save as ascii or txt
[03:31] <miked595> xyazabix, "DocumentRoot /var/www" shows where you put your index page
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> any others?
[03:31] <marx71> since today, when i copy a file to fat32 partition, the file goes missing when i boot into windows.
[03:31] <Kazad> CarlFK it seems that it doesn't complete the install then the window disappears
[03:31] <xyazabix> miked595: how do I put it there?
[03:31] <baconbacon> mcscruff: also, it will ask to remove ubuntu-desktop. You can for the moment i guess but it's critical to reinstall it before upgrading to edgy, because some new packages (like xgl maybe) will be pulled by being a ubuntu-desktop dependency. That's about it
[03:31] <marx71> i don't know what is happenning. the files are missing if i come back to linux and ls
[03:32] <miked595> xyazabix, "cd ../sites-enabled/"
[03:32] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know of any other ascii art generators (from a picture) other than Gimp?
[03:32] <baconbacon> mcscruff: *will be pushed
[03:32] <coreymon77> he guys
[03:32] <marx71> can somebody help!! how do it copy files from linux to fat32 partition???
[03:32] <bruenig> perhaps in spirit with marx, the pieces of your file get distributed evenly rendering you unable to read your file
[03:32] <coreymon77> who is ubugtus owner
[03:32] <Kazad> CarlFK it seems that it doesn't complete the install then the window disappears
[03:32] <jrib> coreymon77: Seveas
[03:32] <CarlFK> Megaqwerty: mplayer uses something like aalib to play movies
[03:32] <Megaqwerty> marx71: mount the fat32 partition
[03:33] <marx71> ooph.please
[03:33] <iceman24k> is the 686 image any better than the 386 image ?
[03:33] <marx71> it is mounted. i can see the files when i copy
[03:33] <Megaqwerty> CarIFK: I don't understand how that helps me
[03:33] <baconbacon> !fat32
[03:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:33] <CarlFK> Kazad: thats better, but still not enough for me
[03:33] <miked595> xyazabix, "sudo ln -s ../sites-available/default ."
[03:33] <marx71> but then i go to windows, open the drive. and files are done.
[03:33] <IcemanV9> aa3d - ASCII art stereogram generator
[03:33] <bruenig> done?
[03:33] <xyazabix> miked595: what does that do?
[03:33] <CarlFK> Megaqwerty: I would look at what else uses aalib or whateever mplayer uses
[03:33] <miked595> xyazabix, "sudo ln -s ../sites-available/default ."
[03:34] <ProN00b> how can i change the language/locale for the current console session ?
[03:34] <miked595> xyazabix, that makes a symlink to the site you want to enable
[03:34] <baconbacon> iceman24k: if you have a 686 you can use 686 image no problem. It's compiled with 686 optimizations (dont ask me specifics)
[03:34] <wtroche> how come glxgears doesnt give me any output information
[03:34] <thin_> hi, I'm reading the ubuntu desktop guide
[03:34] <thin_> i have a question
[03:34] <baconbacon> ask
[03:35] <thin_> "There are six consoles available. Each one is accessible with the shortcut keys Ctrl-Alt-F1 to Ctrl-Alt-F6."
[03:35] <IcemanV9> wtroche: glxgears -printfps
[03:35] <miked595> xyazabix, so now when you start apache it will load that site
[03:35] <thin_> why are there 6 consoles?
[03:35] <marx71> megaquerty: the partition is mounted.
[03:35] <wtroche> IcemanV9  -- thanks
[03:35] <xyazabix> miked595: ok, im going to read up on this so I quit bothering you... you did say plesk was free for one site right? how do i get it?
[03:35] <simmerz> how do i unchroot postfix?
[03:35] <miked595> plesk.com
[03:35] <thephunkizm> the WineHQ package site is down =(
[03:35] <Healot> because there are six consoles? thin_
[03:36] <Healot> btw console no. 7 is for X - usually
[03:36] <xyazabix> ok ty!!!!
[03:36] <baconbacon> thin_: there are as many console as F keys available. F7 is for graphical and F8 for boot output/ second graphical
[03:36] <Kazad> CarlFK well  i put an ISO of amd64 on a cd, then i boot it the using the cd. I get option to start or install Ubuntu and then i click it, it loads i hit the install icon go through he process of filling in the blanks etc. When i get to the actually installing and partitioning i does some stuff really fast the disappears. So i see if i can boot into and reboot  but my HD reboots into windows XP
[03:36] <haully> i have 2 sata disks, i installed win xp first and then i installed ubuntu on the other hd, but now i dont have the option to boot into winxp in grub, how to enable it?
[03:37] <miked595> http://www.swsoft.com/en/products/plesk8/reqs/
[03:37] <bruenig> why does ctrl + f pull up xterm and how can I stop that. I never assigned that short cut nor can I find it in System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:37] <davidrussell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[03:38] <thin_> oh frig, i just remember I tried ubuntu already a few months ago
[03:38] <davidrussell> does this make sense to anyone?
[03:38] <thin_> dammit
[03:38] <davidrussell> it doesn't work
[03:38] <thin_> 6.016 means the current release is from june?
[03:38] <baconbacon> bruenig: launch gconf-editor. navigate to /apps/metacity/global_keybindings. Look for "<Ctrl>f"
[03:39] <bruenig> gconf-editor reminds me too much of the windows registry
[03:39] <baconbacon> heh
[03:39] <thin_> if the live cd of Kubuntu didnt boot for me in June, what are the odds the regular Ubuntu will boot for me now?
[03:40] <bruenig> baconbacon, there is no entry for ctrl f
[03:40] <cr3> how do I add a group to a user?
[03:40] <baconbacon> bruenig: is there anything except screenshot stuff in /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/
[03:40] <CarlFK> Kazad: thats better.  what is the last question it lets you answer before the "does some stuff really fast" ?
[03:41] <DanaG> At least gconf-editor does NOT corrupt itself as much as the registry.
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> DanaG, so true
[03:41] <DanaG> Oh, and even if it does, it doesn't break the system -- just the user.
[03:41] <Kazad> it stuff about what partition i want to install ubuntu on
[03:41] <baconbacon> keyword as much? :)
[03:41] <bruenig> baconbacon, got alt f2 and alt tab and some other stuff but certainly not a ctrl f
[03:41] <jrib> cr3: sudo adduser user_name group_name
[03:41] <IcemanV9> thin_: fwiw, 6.06.1 is the latest version. AND, the chance may be good that it'll work on ur box.
[03:42] <davidrussell> i hate ubuntu
[03:42] <CarlFK> Kazad: anytthing interesting about your drives?  like raid, sata, scsi... ?
[03:42] <bimberi> cr3: GUI: System -> Admin -> Users and Groups.  CLI: 'sudo adduser <user> <group>'
[03:42] <davidrussell> lol
[03:42] <cr3> jrib: thanks, I was looking at the useradd manpage and couldn't figure it out. wrong manpage :)
[03:42] <davidrussell> why cant it just accept my resolution >_<
[03:42] <davidrussell> this is an insane way to get a resolutiojn
[03:42] <Kazad> well it is sata
[03:42] <Kazad> and it's all one
[03:42] <carlo> anyone able to help me with wireless driver issues?
[03:42] <AbortD> !java
[03:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:42] <DanaG> Plus, your gconf settings are not just all one file/
[03:43] <DanaG> so just one file breaking will affect only one app, not the whole system.
[03:43] <frogzoo> cr3: there is useradd and also the superior adduser
[03:43] <davidrussell> ugghh it doesn't work :(
[03:43] <davidrussell> useless piece of crap
[03:43] <frogzoo> davidrussell: which res'n?
[03:43] <carlo> I'm supposed to be installing bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys but every site with drivers only lets me download a .EXE file- What am I missing?
[03:44] <davidrussell> 1280x800
[03:44] <davidrussell> i'm supposed to use this 915resolution thing
[03:44] <davidrussell> but the documentation doesn't work
[03:44] <davidrussell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[03:44] <davidrussell> nothing there works
[03:44] <davidrussell> i can change the resolution
[03:44] <davidrussell> but i cant get it to change before startup
[03:44] <frogzoo> davidrussell: tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  ?
[03:45] <davidrussell> so i ghave to do it each time
[03:45] <niki_> is there a console command that will tell me how much memory i have installed?
[03:45] <CarlFK> niki_: free\
[03:45] <jrib> niki_: free -m
[03:45] <niki_> CarlFK, jrib, thanks :)O
[03:45] <frogzoo> niki_: lshw
[03:45] <niki_> :)
[03:46] <_tom_> carlo, try decompressing the .EXE, read about someone who had a similar problem, and it turned out that the exe could be decompressed with zip
[03:46] <thin_> if the live cd of Kubuntu didnt boot for me in June, what are the odds the regular Ubuntu will boot for me now?
[03:46] <Kazad> CarlFK do i have to format my partition before i can install ubuntu?
[03:46] <CarlFK> thin_: didn't boot?  odds are a new cd will boot :)
[03:47] <davidrussell> Frogzoo - doesn't do anything
[03:47] <frogzoo> thin_: I give it 50%
[03:47] <carlo> tom, how would I do this? I've not been able to decompress it?!
[03:47] <davidrussell> i know i need 915resolution
[03:47] <davidrussell> i just cant get it to run before startup
[03:47] <CarlFK> Kazad: you shouldn't have to, but an easier path will be to use the alternate CD
[03:47] <thin_> but this isnt new, its the same version as i tried last time
[03:47] <thin_> only difference is i tried kubuntu last time and not plain ubuntu
[03:47] <eXcentra> Is there a command to launch synaptic from command line? For some reason, my synaptic package manager won't open from the menu...
[03:47] <davidrussell> the doc says to # sudo apt-get install 915resolution .. but i get package not found
[03:47] <_tom_> just try unzp on it :) may work, may not work... but its worth a shot :)
[03:47] <frogzoo> davidrussell: ok, then it's 915 specific
[03:47] <carlo> The archive manager says it can not open the .EXE
[03:48] <Kazad> because i know one of the partitions is a swap
[03:48] <CarlFK> Kazad: it installs the same system, just uses the older text based installer instead of the live cd
[03:48] <teacher> alright opinion question here? ubuntu with myth or knoppmyth
[03:48] <Kazad> i did that before the window disappears
[03:48] <total_meltdown> teacher: define:myth
[03:48] <davidrussell> how can i make it find 915resolution?
[03:48] <davidrussell> lol
[03:48] <_tom_> carlo, hhm, do you have acces to a windows-PC then?
[03:48] <frogzoo> davidrussell: you enabled universe, yes?
[03:48] <davidrussell> i enabled universe/multiverse repositories as far as i know
[03:48] <carlo> unfortunately...
[03:49] <davidrussell> double clicked on the source and checked the boxes?
[03:49] <_tom_> someone could click that exe and mail you the files :)
[03:49] <carlo> as you said, tis worth a try
[03:49] <frogzoo> davidrussell: apt-cache search 915
[03:49] <Kazad> so i just need to change to alternate cd
[03:50] <davidrussell> returns xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[03:50] <davidrussell> ?
[03:50] <IcemanV9> !915resolution
[03:50] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)
[03:50] <frogzoo> davidrussell: you do not have universe enabled (source is for source code, not what you want)
[03:50] <IcemanV9> it's in universe repo :)
[03:50] <davidrussell> how do i do it
[03:50] <thin_> i'm still note comprehending the purpose of the multiple consoles?...:(
[03:50] <davidrussell> i did what the docs said
[03:50] <frogzoo> !universe > davidrussell
[03:51] <frogzoo> !wine
[03:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:51] <royal> ....
[03:51] <royal> they told me to come here and ask what to do after typing apt man
[03:51] <cr3> totem is using "stereo" output and rythmbox is using "alsa", what's the difference?
[03:51] <Vanique> hi
[03:51] <frogzoo> royal: do you have the deb ?
[03:51] <IcemanV9> royal: you have to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list to dl wine deb package
[03:52] <royal> yeah on a dump drive
[03:52] <royal> *jump
[03:52] <davidrussell> blah.. clicked edit instead of add >_<
[03:52] <thin_> reminds me, anyone had much success running quake3/ut2004/WoW/CS:S in ubuntu via wine or other windows compatibility layers?
[03:52] <davidrussell> i'm sorry i'm useless
[03:52] <frogzoo> royal: you should just add the repo - no need to use the deb
[03:52] <Milktea> thin_, Most of those work in Cedega
[03:52] <_tom_> ut2k4 runs native...
[03:52] <royal> cause the gateway doesn't have Internet acess (and no i'm not going to shut this down and plug everything in just to give it net acess)
[03:52] <JoseStefan> thin_, quake3 is easy
[03:52] <eXcentra> Is there a command to launch synaptic from command line? For some reason, my synaptic package manager won't open from the menu...
[03:52] <Kazad> CarlFK so i just need to switch from the live cd to the alternate
[03:52] <jZed> I have a dual-boot ubuntu6.06/winXP and I want to be able to always see files on the winXP side from ubuntu ... can I set that up in /etc/fstab?
[03:53] <royal> (this is a different comp btw)
[03:53] <CarlFK> Kazad: that is what I would do.  I only use the alternate installer
[03:53] <IcemanV9> is there a way to screenshot the window; not the whole screen??
[03:53] <Kazad> CarlFKl: why would that make a difference
[03:54] <IcemanV9> i meant windowed app
[03:54] <CarlFK> IcemanV9: the import command
[03:54] <THX-1138> JoseStefan - How do i remove the invisible box around the mouse using WINE/Cedega to run UT99?
[03:54] <thin_> If I change all my drives to fat32 will I be able to read/write files across windows & ubuntu?
[03:54] <CarlFK> Kazad: it is a totally different program
[03:54] <JoseStefan> THX-1138, i dont know :(
[03:54] <Kazad> CarlFK: okay, thanks see you later
[03:54] <THX-1138> QQuake I-III run great!
[03:54] <royal> what do I have to do to install the DEB on my jump drive after typing apt man in the console?
[03:55] <thin_> what about Q4?
[03:55] <royal> I repeat: the computer I'm trying this on DOES NOT have internet acess
[03:55] <JoseStefan> and Quake4 too
[03:55] <IcemanV9> nm - alt+prtsc does the trick. :)
[03:55] <irawan> thin_: you can read write
[03:55] <wtroche> following the instructions from ubuntuguide.org on installing the flashplugin, I am issuing the second command "sudo update-flashplugin" and getting this error "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[03:56] <jojoman02> are there any ways to compress images in impress like you do within powerpoint?
[03:56] <THX-1138> royal - Interesting question. - Do you think changing a system path variable would do it?
[03:56] <roh_> I just installed ubuntu and I dont know the default password for root. x_x
[03:57] <frogzoo> roh_: there's isn't one - use sudo
[03:57] <thoma1> Hey, I have a question about BCM4306 Wireless. I can get it to connect to my home AP (which is encyrpted) But when I try to connect to the unencrypted AP at the university I go to, it won't connect.
[03:57] <jZed> roh_ its the same as the user password
[03:57] <thoma1> What do I do? ;_;
[03:57] <irawan> royal: whta is jump drive?
[03:57] <THX-1138> roh - It is your user password. - sudo <your_password>
[03:57] <roh_> frogzoo Didnt seem to work and I cant access su using that password jZed
[03:57] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[03:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:57] <royal> you know the storage devices that you can put on your USB ports
[03:57] <THX-1138> usb thumb drive no?
[03:57] <royal> yeah
[03:58] <roh_> Im new to linux and trying to manually update azureus. I know where to put the file... Just cant get access to the dang folder.
[03:58] <jZed> sudo should work with regular user password
[03:58] <irawan> royal: go to the jump drive directory, then use dpkg command
[03:58] <JoseStefan> !azureus
[03:58] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:58] <royal> k
[03:58] <IcemanV9> why can't i see ANY characters in character map??? --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23398
[03:58] <irawan> royal: to install: dpkg -i package_name
[03:58] <_tom_> the command is sudo. If you want to be root, you type sudo su yourpassword roh_
[03:58] <jZed> I have a dual-boot ubuntu6.06/winXP and I want to be able to always see files on the winXP side from ubuntu ... I set /etc/fstab like so: /dev/hda2 /home/lila/windows ntfs user 0 0 ... no joy
[03:59] <irawan> royal: maybe you need sudo as well :)
[03:59] <roh_> _tom_ Oh thanks now I get my mistake.
[03:59] <roh_> x_x
[03:59] <JoseStefan> !ntfs > jZed
[03:59] <THX-1138> royal - I would like the answer to the same question. (being new means *every* new fact is helpful. - grin)
[03:59] <kaitlyn> Can anyone point me to a wiki entry or artical on using console to `startx` instread of gdm?
[04:00] <jZed> no ntfs?  what then?
[04:00] <kaitlyn> +On DapperDrake
[04:00] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  I'm following your Ubuntu instructions and had a few questions.  I can't seem to find the http://flomertens.keo.in packages.  I think the server's down..
[04:00] <THX-1138> kaitlyn - "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" ???
[04:00] <JoseStefan> jZed, that wiki covers vfat too
[04:00] <irawan> kaitlyn: why you don't want gdm?
[04:00] <jZed> vfat for xinXP?
[04:01] <JoseStefan> jZed, fat32 = vfat
[04:01] <codecaine> how can I change my boot up green when ubuntu is configuring
[04:01] <THX-1138> JZed - vfat = fat32  ntfs = ntfs
[04:01] <kaitlyn> I don't want gdm.  I want to use `startx` and boot into a console.  However, startx has a lot of permission errors.  I want nonroot users to be able to start the X server.
[04:01] <codecaine> right after grub
[04:01] <THX-1138> !ntfs
[04:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:01] <thoma1> Hey, I have a question about BCM4306 Wireless. I can get it to connect to my home AP (which is encyrpted) But when I try to connect to the unencrypted AP at the university I go to, it won't connect. What should I do?
[04:01] <THX-1138> !mounter
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <THX-1138> !mount
[04:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:02] <DanaG> UT2K4 Linux < UT2K4 win -- /me needs 5.1-channel audio!
[04:02] <jZed> ok thanks JoseStefan
[04:02] <kaitlyn> irawan: Because I run mutlipel X sessions at once ( up to three ) with one of them being on my TV with just x running mplayer.  So gdm isn't for me.
[04:02] <baconbacon> anybody has nforce 570? im looking for advice
[04:02] <eXcentra> !usplash
[04:02] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:03] <DanaG> Current Dapper usplash is ugggg-leeeeee
[04:03] <eXcentra> codecaine: I believe you're referring to this.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:03] <DanaG> (compared to GDM, at least)
[04:03] <codecaine> ty
[04:03] <roh_> Im starting to think linux hates me...
[04:03] <eXcentra> I don't think it's THAT bad. :|
[04:04] <kaitlyn> brb
[04:04] <davidrussell> thanks for your help guys..
[04:04] <davidrussell> i'm giving up.. i think it hates me
[04:04] <JoseStefan> DanaG, don't reboot, that should solve most of the problem
[04:05] <THX-1138> davidrussel - Windows users, Linux comunitty. - :)
[04:05] <irawan> kaitlyn: use something like startx ... :1, startx ... :2 and so on
[04:05] <davidrussell> ?
[04:05] <poningru> davidrussell: whats wrong?
[04:05] <irawan> kaitlyn: ... means other options for startx
[04:05] <thoma1> Hey, I have a question about BCM4306 Wireless. I can get it to connect to my home AP (which is encyrpted) But when I try to connect to the unencrypted AP at the university I go to, it won't connect.
[04:05] <davidrussell> i can't get 915resolution to start up before x
[04:05] <THX-1138> davidrussel - Linux is about sharing what you knoe
[04:05] <davidrussell> so i have to run it each time
[04:05] <davidrussell> and restart x
[04:05] <davidrussell> >_<
[04:06] <davidrussell> i'm not cut out for linux lol
[04:06] <THX-1138> i don't noe much about spelling... - sigh
[04:06] <Ge1> i need help with 3d graphics on linux...
[04:06] <DanaG> Is there a Linux equivalent of spacemonger?
[04:06] <JoseStefan> !binarydriver > Ge1
[04:06] <frogzoo> Ge1: which vid card?
[04:06] <irawan> davidrussell: you need to make it start before X, see the /etc/rc.??
[04:06] <coulix> how do i get ride of the  "..." near my task bars? this is new and wasnt there beore dapepr
[04:07] <frogzoo> DanaG: wine ?
[04:07] <frogzoo> !appdb > danag
[04:07] <Ge1> I have an intel chipset i think... i810 or something lie that
[04:07] <davidrussell> the wiki said just edit some script and it'll work.. but it didn't
[04:07] <THX-1138> Ge1 - what can we help you with? (always safe to ask a question here just dive right in and ask. ;)
[04:07] <DanaG> Nope, then it recurses all my mounts -- brokenness ensues.
[04:07] <Howdy125> People that are really in here say "I" ..
[04:07] <Howdy125> I
[04:08] <JoseStefan> well, i'm not really in here, actually i'm at home
[04:08] <Ge1> ^^ same :D
[04:08] <Howdy125> No way !
[04:08] <irawan> davidrussell: let me see
[04:08] <kaitlyn> irawan: Except with startx on Ubuntu you get a lot of errors, such as http://pastebin.ca/169654.  I want to know how to fix these errors.
[04:08] <JoseStefan> 'here' doesn't physically exist, it's just a virtual place
[04:08] <Ge1> so... anyone know how to add 3d acceleration to a intel i810 chipset?
[04:09] <zebedee> Hello everyone :-) I have GRUB loading stage1.5. Error 15!! I tried reinstalling, still no joy. Could someone please tell me what is Error 15 and is it fixable?? Thanks in advance, Regards, Zebedee?
[04:09] <irawan> kaitlyn: let me see
[04:09] <davidrussell> irawan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[04:09] <Lam_> is there a way to make GNOME not display text so hugely? (ie, make the overall display of things smaller: smaller icons, text, etc..)
[04:09] <THX-1138> zebedee - Did you see this link?
[04:09] <THX-1138> !grub
[04:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:09] <coulix> Ge1 i do
[04:09] <roh_> Is there a way to permenently save mounting a hard drive with disk manager?
[04:10] <coulix> aiglx all work fine
[04:10] <Ge1> how coulix?
[04:10] <eXcentra> Lam_: you can try going to System > Preferences > font and tweaking it
[04:11] <THX-1138> roh_ - hm - It doesn't save it? it should I think. /etc/fstab is the file to edit when all else fails.
[04:11] <davidrussell> anyways i'm off to bed - thanks again for putting up with me :P
[04:11] <zebedee> THX-1138... Thankyou I will go to GRUB how to> :-)
[04:11] <davidrussell> i'll try again tomorrow
[04:11] <Yggdrasil> how can i monitor my dmesg thru tail -f ?
[04:11] <roh_> THX-1138, Yea when i reboot its gone and I have to do it again.
[04:12] <garface> i was trying to get the invidia drivers for my AMD64.  I went to the nvidia site and downloaded the latest drivers but when i went to install them an error occured, is there a better way
[04:12] <DanaG> Synaptic.
[04:12] <THX-1138> !fstab
[04:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:12] <DanaG> For nvidia.
[04:12] <sadoc> hi all!
[04:12] <coulix> Ge1 it was for 915, ubuntu wike aiglx for i915, but its the same for i930
[04:12] <Lam_> eXcentra: ok thanks
[04:12] <sadoc> please, I need support to configure accents (dead keys) in ubuntu 6.06
[04:13] <DanaG> Is there an easy way to analyze where all my hard drive space is going to?
[04:13] <roh_> THX-1138, Im more concerned with why it wouldnt save.
[04:13] <sadoc> use disk free
[04:13] <sadoc> or disk usage
[04:13] <fiveiron> is there a graphical app to configure a v4l tv-tuner?  and by configure, I mean adjust the color/brightness/saturation/etc
[04:13] <Yggdrasil> how can i monitor my dmesg thru tail -f ?
[04:13] <THX-1138> roh_ - It is i think supposed to save it. - hmm
[04:13] <Ge1> coulix: what exactly is aiglx? its not appearing in the repositories nor is it installed
[04:14] <frogzoo> Yggdrasil: tail -f /var/log/messages
[04:14] <DanaG> tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[04:14] <DanaG> messages seems to be something different.
[04:14] <LKRaider> Yggdrasil:  tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:14] <Yggdrasil> hmm..
[04:14] <DanaG> that last one is it.
[04:14] <Yggdrasil> well dmesg seems to be diffeertn from /var/log/syslog
[04:14] <DanaG> syslog.
[04:15] <THX-1138> Ge1 - It is an even fancier way to use transparency and animations of th open windows. - you tube shows a bunch of examples.   xgl or compiz do the same thing.
[04:15] <DanaG> (I just tested it by toggling wireless -- only the syslog shows this:
[04:15] <coulix> http://wiki.compiz.net/index.php/Aiglx/compiz_on_an_Intel_i915_video_card
[04:15] <DanaG> ipw3945: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:
[04:15] <DanaG> Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
[04:15] <Yggdrasil> like if i cat var/syslog and i do dmesg i see didffrent stuff
[04:15] <Yggdrasil> strange..
[04:15] <coulix> the point for aiglx is that it will run smooth on a i810
[04:15] <coulix> it wont with xgl
[04:16] <JoseStefan> coulix, are you sure compiz is what he is looking for?
[04:16] <Zanth_> good day
[04:16] <Zanth_> is it possible to reinstall grub froma live cd?
[04:16] <roh_> Also I used the auto install from the i386 iso. Im curious how to recompile for my system.
[04:16] <Zanth_> so that it takes over the windows boot loader?
[04:16] <coulix> maybe not but thats what will convert his neighbors
[04:16] <Zanth_> I have an ubuntu drive, but windows enjoyed hacking it
[04:16] <THX-1138> coulix - I can get compmgr to work smoothly. xgl only seems to work for a few minutes at a time before locking up. - Alpha bleeding edge software to be sure.
[04:16] <Flannel> Zanth_: yes, heres a page:
[04:17] <LKRaider> Yggdrasil: I think dmesg filters syslog somehow
[04:17] <Flannel> Zanth_: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:17] <Zanth_> thank you Flannel
[04:17] <sadoc> dear all!
[04:17] <THX-1138> !rescue
[04:17] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[04:17] <coulix> well my turn now, how do i get rid of the new "..." in the launch bars ?
[04:17] <chuckyp> Anyone know of a good desktop monitor for dapper?
[04:17] <sadoc> please, i need help to set up accents in ubunut 6.06
[04:18] <coulix> near "hide all windows" for examples
[04:18] <Ge1> so... all i will need to do is install aiglx and my games shouldnt whine about 3d acceleraion?
[04:18] <chuckyp> conky flickers obviously
[04:18] <chuckyp> !accents
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about accents - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <coulix> Ge1 hum, well aiglx  + 3d in windowed mode doesnt work as far as remember.
[04:18] <roh_> I used the auto install from the i386 iso. Im curious how to recompile for my system.
[04:19] <coulix> in this case follow the tutorial but dont change your /gdm/gdm.conf
[04:19] <THX-1138> coulix - It sounds like you *maybe* have selected the weather widget for the taskbar without configuring it. - maybe right click on iy\t and configure?
[04:19] <Ge1> what? no windowed mode?
[04:19] <coulix> no, i mean use it, but dont start compiz
[04:19] <JoseStefan> coulix, is aiglx the only way to get 3d accel on intel?
[04:19] <THX-1138> !xgl
[04:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:20] <carlo> _tom_: I think you're on to something with that.. I've got the .EXE unzipped
[04:20] <coulix> THX-1138, haha no its different i know this one, there is two, on eon the top right , one bottom left near the hide all desktops.
[04:20] <chuckyp> roh_, what are you trying to do recompile what?
[04:20] <coulix> JoseStefan: i  am not sure
[04:21] <roh_> chuckyp, because ubuntu is currently compiled for an i386 and Im on a i686. Its runnin slow as crap.
[04:21] <JoseStefan> you guys are guiding him towards compiz, all he wants is 3d accel for his games
[04:21] <chuckyp> roh_, well you can just install the 686 kernel
[04:21] <THX-1138> coulix - i am easily confused. - sorry.(scratches head)
[04:21] <chuckyp> roh_, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[04:21] <chuckyp> roh_, then reboot to the new 686 kernel
[04:21] <coulix> true but following the tutorial will give him 3d accell
[04:21] <roh_> chuckyp, No idea how that works. Any risks?
[04:21] <JoseStefan> chuckyp, linux-686 is better, it will include the restricted modules
[04:22] <chuckyp> roh_, no not if you don't delete the 386 kernel that will still be an option in grub bootloader.
[04:22] <chuckyp> roh_, err yeah linux-686
[04:22] <THX-1138> JosefStefan - Ah, good catch. - add fglrx driver for ATI and nvidia-glx  for nvidia
[04:22] <Ge1> ugh, is there anything easier for soemone who installed linux a day ago?
[04:22] <billybennett> Can someone help me figure out why I cannot mount a hard-drive I just added to my fresh ubuntu install?
[04:22] <Ge1> I was lucky to get internet working....
[04:22] <roh_> chuckyp, so I need to change that command line?
[04:22] <THX-1138> !videoacceleration
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videoacceleration - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <JoseStefan> THX-1138, what about intel?
[04:23] <chuckyp> JoseStefan, ty I'm installing linux-686 now didn't know about that meta package
[04:23] <THX-1138> JosefStefan - Things change quickly, - 8 months ago there was no accel for intel. - no idea now.
[04:23] <chuckyp> roh_, no you can search for the package called linux-686 in synaptic  just install that
[04:24] <billybennett> Anyone know why I cannot mount a HD I just added to a new install of Ubuntu?  Its showing up that its present but I cannot mount or even open it
[04:24] <roh_> chuckyp, thanks man... this slowness is madening.
[04:24] <jrib> billybennett: what happens why you try to mount it?  What command are you issuing?
[04:24] <chuckyp> roh_, after its installed just reboot and it should default to the new kernel.  If it doens't work restart again and select the old 386 kernel
[04:24] <CarlFK> how do I generate a preseed file from an existing installed system?
[04:24] <billybennett> jrib, I was just right clicking and hitting mount
[04:25] <coulix> apparentlly the "..." comes with window list, pannel component
[04:25] <THX-1138> billybennett -  top taskbar menu "System" "Administration" "Disks" ??
[04:25] <billybennett> jrib, it says "error: device /dev/hdd1 is not removable" "error: could not execute pmount"
[04:25] <roh_> chuckyp, how can i check to make certain its using the new kernel at all?
[04:25] <coulix> uname -a
[04:26] <jrib> billybennett: this is in Disk Manager?
[04:26] <roh_> thanks coulix. I recognise that
[04:26] <chuckyp> roh_, after you reboot if you hit alt+f2 and type in uname -r it will display the kernel its running
[04:26] <kaitlyn> irawan: The errors were in that url I pasted.
[04:26] <billybennett> jrib, no just in "Computer"  inside disk manager its showing up but how do I browse in disk manager to see if its working
[04:26] <chuckyp> roh_, or type uname -r in a terminal
[04:27] <chuckyp> So anyone know of a good desktop system monitor?  Conky isn't working ot well for me its flickering.
[04:27] <jZed2> I mount my winXP in /etc/fstab according to wiki, root can see the mounted files, ordinary user has no perms :-(
[04:27] <roh_> chuckyp, thanks man
[04:27] <irawan> kaitlyn: I read that, now looking for solution :)
[04:27] <brendonjt> hey there  does anyone here  use gnucash????
[04:27] <ralsheb> hi, my xorg.conf file shows a list of different resolutions but my ubuntu display s ettings only shows 1 (640X480) anyone got any ideas how i can fix this?
[04:27] <brendonjt> need some big help
[04:27] <kaitlyn> irawan: :)
[04:27] <chuckyp> roh_, njo problem if you have issues just ask herre.  What type of cpu are you using?
[04:27] <jrib> billybennett: click on the hard disk from the list on the left, then go to the partition tab.  Enter an Access Path that exists, and then press Enable
[04:27] <chuckyp> roh_, and the speed difference shouldn't be that noticible unless you have somewhat older hardware
[04:27] <roh_> chuckyp, p4 2.4 its old but it works.
[04:28] <roh_> chuckyp, Well i tried a different distro compiled for i686 and  noticed a large difference
[04:28] <chuckyp> roh_, yeah you definately want the linux-686 package then
[04:28] <chuckyp> roh_, and are you running dapper?
[04:28] <roh_> chuckyp, yes.
[04:28] <roh_> chuckyp, i believe so anyway
[04:29] <roh_> chuckyp, be back in a moment.
[04:29] <chuckyp> k
[04:29] <surgy> anyone know if there is a #tovid ?
[04:29] <chuckyp> brendonjt, what type of video card to you have
[04:29] <billybennett> jrib, everytime I hit okay it goes back to /tmp/disks-conf-hdd1 but when I goto that folder it wont let me view
[04:29] <chuckyp> surgy the channel?
[04:29] <surgy> chuckyp: or you can help :)
[04:29] <drcode> hi all
[04:29] <jZed2>  I mount my winXP in /etc/fstab according to wiki, root can see the mounted files, ordinary user has no perms so can't see them :-(
[04:30] <billybennett> jrib, brb someone is at the door
[04:30] <surgy> hi Doc
[04:30] <chuckyp> surgy, help with what?
[04:30] <surgy> chuckyp: tovid
[04:30] <drcode> any one know if I can watch TV with all-in-wonder in console?
[04:30] <chuckyp> jZed, what do you mean by users has no perms?
[04:30] <irawan> kaitlyn: so this page doesn't help too? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-185555.html
[04:30] <surgy> drcode check this
[04:30] <surgy> ubotu ATI
[04:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <chuckyp> surgy, I don't know what tovid is? but you can see if there is a tovid channel just try joinging /join #tovid
[04:30] <THX-1138> This script has been very helpful to me in finding and mounting disks.   linux, windows AND machttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23401
[04:31] <surgy> chuckyp: thanks lol
[04:31] <jZed2> chuckyp when user does ls it says "you don't have permission"
[04:31] <roh_> chuckyp, seems a bit snappier.
[04:31] <surgy> jzed2: try sudo ls
[04:31] <chuckyp> jZed2, hrm....  Are you sure its mounted?
[04:31] <chuckyp> roh_, cool
[04:32] <jZed2> chuckyp, yes sudo ls shows it
[04:32] <drcode> its only drivers
[04:32] <roh_> chuckyp, I switched to kde from gnome. Do I need to dl a different alsa mixer for kde?
[04:32] <drcode> I dont have xserver in that linux machine
[04:32] <chuckyp> roh_, did you reboot and when you do a uname -r does it show 2.6.15-686?
[04:32] <chuckyp> jZed, hrm...
[04:32] <THX-1138> surgy - experiment with adding "Option" EnableAccel" "true"     in your xorg.conf file under device video card - nVidia cards only
[04:32] <roh_> chuckyp, that it does.
[04:33] <THX-1138> after installing nvidia-glx
[04:33] <chuckyp> jZed, i'm not buy my other computer right now but I would guess there is something wrong with your fstab entry for the mount.
[04:33] <surgy> thx-1138: umm my video card works great but ill keep that in mind if i have a problem
[04:34] <billybennett> jrib, I did that but now the folder I told it to do has a lock and a red x
[04:34] <jrib> billybennett: ok, what filesystem is this?
[04:34] <billybennett> NTFS
[04:34] <THX-1138> JZed2 - check out this bash script for mounting disks  (thank you again Seveas.). http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23401
[04:34] <jrib> !ntfs > billybennett
[04:34] <billybennett> jrib, I just need to read
[04:34] <ralsheb> the available resolutions in my system->pres_>screen res dont match with what it says in xorg.conf any ideas what i can do? (only 640x480 in the gnome applet)
[04:34] <BeShaMo> which version of the nvidia drivers came with 5.4
[04:35] <chuckyp> roh_, cool then you are running 686 kernel
[04:35] <BeShaMo> 5.04 I mean
[04:35] <chuckyp> BeShaMo, none
[04:35] <jrib> billybennett: you'll need to mount it with the proper umask, the wiki page should explain it in more detail
[04:35] <chuckyp> !tell BeShaMo about nvidia
[04:35] <JoseStefan> !info nvidia-glx breezy
[04:35] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1 (breezy), package size 3012 kB, installed size 10040 kB
[04:35] <chuckyp> !info tovid
[04:35] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in any distro I know
[04:35] <roh_> chuckyp, about the mixer?
[04:35] <billybennett> alright jrib thanks
[04:35] <Flannel> no.  Not breezy, Hoary.
[04:35] <Flannel> !info nvidia-glx hoary
[04:35] <JoseStefan> oh
[04:35] <chuckyp> roh_, no idea why is sound not working in kde?
[04:35] <lontra> 5.04 isn't breezy is it...isn't that hoary?
[04:35] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1.1 (hoary), package size 2980 kB, installed size 9752 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc)
[04:36] <jZed2> chuckyp straight from the wiki:  /dev/hdat2 /path/mnt ntfs auto,user,dmask=0111,fmask=0000 0 0
[04:36] <chuckyp> lontra, yes
[04:36] <BeShaMo> chuckyp, I'm having troubles with the drivers in the current reps (legacy and glx) last time I had it working was when I was running 5.04
[04:36] <DanaG> I found a new spacemonger-ish utility:
[04:36] <DanaG> filelight.
[04:36] <chuckyp> jZed2, shoudl be like /dev/hda2 blah blah
[04:36] <roh_> chuckyp, its working its just not loading the nifty mixer that ran in gnome. thing even recognised my media keyboard
[04:36] <jZed2> chuckyp yeah, sorry typo /dev/hda2
[04:36] <thin_> will both my monitors work automatically with ubuntu or should I disconnect 1 until after i install the proper linux drivers?
[04:37] <THX-1138> thin_ - I think you will want to install xinerama later.
[04:37] <chuckyp> roh_, oh well you should be able to add a mixer control by the clock.  The other option may be to install kubuntu-desktop package that will get you a kde setup with all that stuff otherwise you'd have to add it manually.
[04:37] <JoseStefan> thin_ you shouldn't need to physically disconnect, one will just be disabled
[04:37] <DanaG> Try nvidia-xconfig --help
[04:37] <chuckyp> !info kde
[04:37] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[04:37] <surgy> ok i got a good question for any of you linux junkies
[04:37] <DanaG> or aticonf
[04:37] <THX-1138> !xinerama
[04:37] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:37] <DanaG> (depending on card)
[04:38] <DanaG> NV has TwinView.
[04:38] <chuckyp> !tell surgy about ask
[04:38] <surgy> how whould an individual such as myself convert an avi fle into an mpeg1 or mpeg2
[04:38] <THX-1138> Danag - Wow, Thanks good to know. - apologies for the misinformation.
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[04:38] <surgy> lol chuckyp: wasnt asking to ask a question was proclaiming that i was about to ask a question:)
[04:38] <thin_> is it possible to use my bluetooth wacom tablet in Ubuntu?
[04:39] <chuckyp> brendonjt, did you install the drivers for it?
[04:39] <THX-1138> !bluetooth
[04:39] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:39] <chuckyp> surgy, I know people usually just ask you don't have to prepare us for it.
[04:39] <surgy> chuckyp: lol
[04:40] <THX-1138> There are entries for the wacom tablet included by default in xorg.conf kinda neat.
[04:40] <lupine_85> only if you have a wacom tablet :(
[04:40] <surgy> !tell THX-1138 about ask
[04:40] <chuckyp> ?
[04:40] <tokenbad> anyone know what this means?  bash: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied  the command was done with sudo
[04:41] <surgy> just a tes
[04:41] <chuckyp> tokenbad, what are you trying to do?
[04:41] <surgy> test
[04:41] <chuckyp> tokenbad, compile something
[04:41] <THX-1138> !ask what?
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask what? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <tokenbad> no...I have neverwinter nights installed...and trying to have it run...
[04:41] <THX-1138> j/k
[04:41] <SuperMiguel> how can i install a sound card
[04:41] <SuperMiguel> creative live24
[04:41] <tokenbad> and when do ./nwn or sudo ./nwn it gives me that error
[04:42] <apo11o> Is there anyone out there willing to help out a brand new Linux user?
[04:42] <thomas_> Grub question, am I supposed to be able to use the cp command inside the grub prompt?  I made a floppy with grub, but can't cp the files to the new /boot partition...  can anybody help me with this?
[04:42] <lupine_85> chmod a+x nwn ?
[04:42] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, it didn't get detected automatically?
[04:42] <thomas_> I may be able to help
[04:42] <Lam_> why is it that ext3 doesn't require defragging?
[04:42] <SuperMiguel> nope
[04:43] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, I would try searching the forums for someone else with the same sound card.  If not the wiki has a bunch of information about driviers for various devices.
[04:43] <frogzoo> Lam_: the driver takes care of it
[04:43] <thomas_> apollo, ask your question
[04:43] <tokenbad> chuckyp, I have neverwinter nights installed and gives that error when I try to run it...with ./nwn...and sudo nwn...thats the error I get
[04:43] <Lam_> frogzoo: so is it just a constant background process or is it not even required?
[04:43] <apo11o> I have been trying to use WPA encryption but Ubuntu wont let me...
[04:43] <frogzoo> !appdb > tokenbad
[04:44] <thomas_> with ssh?
[04:44] <frogzoo> Lam_: ext uses an algorithm that eliminates fragmentation - it's not a separate process, just how the file system runs
[04:44] <tokenbad> frogzoo, thanks but neverwinter nights was ported to linux
[04:44] <Lam_> frogzoo: ah ok thanks
[04:45] <chuckyp> tokenbad, are you trying to install it or did it work at one time?
[04:45] <Skwid_> hum
[04:45] <SuperMiguel> chuckyp: it did pick it
[04:45] <Tonren> To activate my wireless, I have to sudo modprobe bcm43xx.  Where should I put this command to make it happen on bootup?
[04:45] <SuperMiguel> but i have a 5.1 system
[04:45] <SuperMiguel> but just 2 speakers make sound
[04:45] <lontra> Tonren: /etc/modules
[04:45] <thomas_> sorry, i don't know much about wireless encryption
[04:45] <thin_> anything special i need to know about burning data dvd's?
[04:45] <chuckyp> SuperMiguel, hrm... I would definately search the forums then for someone else with that card.
[04:45] <DanaG> SuperMiguel: I have an Audigy
[04:45] <Skwid_> anyway to disable the shaking effect on menus etc in compiz ?
[04:45] <DanaG> and I have to set my apps to use all speakers.
[04:46] <tokenbad> chuckyp, it worked at one time...then had a problem with the driving becoming read only...so reinstalled os...ran fsck -f on the drive and remounted..and its working fine now...so then erased the nwn dir and did a reinstall...and thats when this error started
[04:46] <DanaG> Oh, and in the gnome-mixer, go to preferences and enable all the sliders.
[04:46] <SuperMiguel> DanaG: where can i find creative sound blaster drivers?
[04:46] <Tonren> lontra: thanks
[04:46] <DanaG> They should already be there.
[04:46] <apo11o> Another question, what the hell is this "sudo" stuff I've been hearing from Lunix'ers?
[04:46] <lontra> Tonren: np
[04:46] <Flannel> !tell apo11o about sudo
[04:46] <JoseStefan> !sudo > apo11o
[04:46] <apo11o> I mean Linux*
[04:46] <Skwid_> anyone ?
[04:47] <DanaG> SuperMiguel: The gnome volume thingy initially hides most of the sliders.
[04:47] <Tonren> Can anyone explain to me why the "allow-hotplug" directive in /etc/network/interfaces is significant?
[04:47] <raknam> hey, anyone know about setting up vmplayer? i'm trying to run a vm image and it says "could not open /dev/vmmon: no such file" Please make sure that the kernel module 'vmmon' is loaded"  what is vmmon and how do i load it?
[04:47] <thin_> If I change all my drives to fat32 will I be able to read/write files across windows & ubuntu?
[04:47] <lupine_85> su -c with some gubbins
[04:47] <DanaG> If you want 2-channel audio cloned to all channels, that's the "front" "center" "rear" "surround and such
[04:47] <SuperMiguel> they are not :(
[04:47] <Tonren> thin_: There are ext3 drivers for Windows, just so you know
[04:47] <THX-1138> Tonren - usb dsl modems or nics?
[04:47] <Healot> thin_: yes;
[04:47] <DanaG> thin_: look up ntfs-3g
[04:48] <DanaG> on google
[04:48] <thin_> ext3???
[04:48] <Tonren> THX-1138: I have wireless and T1 ethernet on campus
[04:48] <SuperMiguel> i think is picking the integrated one
[04:48] <Tonren> thin_: ext3 is a common filesystem for Linux.
[04:48] <DanaG> I have 2 sound cards -- integrated and audigy.
[04:48] <DanaG> Go to  file -- change device
[04:48] <LKRaider> raknam: get vmware-player from synaptic
[04:49] <DanaG> In my case, the integrated is card 0 and my audigy is card 1.
[04:49] <SuperMiguel> DanaG: how can i install it?
[04:49] <thin_> ok, uh, personally I think windows is the dumbest piece of shit so I'd rather not install drivers for reading a new disk format
[04:49] <Healot> Tonren: ext2 IFS though
[04:49] <raknam> lkraider: i do have vmplayer installed, will that add anyting to the installation?
[04:49] <thin_> my installation of xp can't get anything right
[04:49] <Tonren> Healot: IFS?
[04:49] <thin_> so i'll try the fat32 thinkg
[04:49] <SuperMiguel> i jus hear 2 out of 5 speakers
[04:49] <DanaG> Well, open the gnome mixer and tell me what you see.
[04:49] <Healot> installable file system...
[04:49] <kaitlyn> irawan: Reading it now.  :)
[04:49] <apo11o> Look I found this "command" but dont know that the hell to do with it (sudo killall wpasupplicant)
[04:49] <Tonren> Healot: Oh.  Yes,  right.  It works with Ext3 too, though
[04:49] <surgy> anyone know a good avi to mpeg1 converter?
[04:49] <apo11o> Where am I supposed to type that in?
[04:49] <JoseStefan> thin_, you can read/write ntfs from linux
[04:50] <LKRaider> raknam: some vmware modules needs to be compiled for your kernel. the easier is to use the ubuntu supplied files
[04:50] <JoseStefan> thin_, but you have to install some packages for that
[04:50] <Tonren> JoseStefan: I thought it wasn't stable yet.
[04:50] <DanaG> SuperMiguel: gnome-volume-control
[04:50] <raknam> do they have windows?
[04:50] <SuperMiguel> i dont have gnome mixer
[04:50] <JoseStefan> I haven't revised the stableness in a while
[04:50] <Healot> yup... the ifs doesn't have journal writing feature of ext3 fs; so really, becareful with that ifs
[04:50] <SuperMiguel> im installin ir
[04:50] <SuperMiguel> installing it
[04:50] <DanaG> gnome-alsamixer is different, by the way.
[04:50] <thin_> JoseStefan: knoppix always would give me a very ver very strict warning whenever I tried to write to ntfs, are you SURE.....
[04:51] <DanaG> ntfs-3g is new.
[04:51] <SuperMiguel> it is good?
[04:51] <JoseStefan> thin_ you would have to check with the release notes of the various options
[04:51] <DanaG> Just different -- the volume-control is the one that gets added to the panel.
[04:51] <thin_> i think i'll stick with the fat32
[04:51] <Thinkl00p> How would I add sources for my synaptic package manager so i could install amsn, gmail notifier etc..
[04:51] <thin_> never experienced any of the ntfs benefits anyway
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> ntfs-3g
[04:52] <Tonren> Can anyone explain to me why the "allow-hotplug" directive in /etc/network/interfaces is significant?
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g??
[04:52] <raknam> raknam
[04:52] <DanaG> ntfs-3g is for read/write ntfs
[04:52] <DanaG> different topic -- for thin_
[04:52] <JoseStefan> Thinkl00p, there is a "repositories" option in synaptic, for doing that
[04:52] <thin_> ok, after all this ubuntu desktop guide reading i'll be so pissed if it refuses to boot on my system again :(
[04:52] <THX-1138> !sourceomatic
[04:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:53] <Thinkl00p> prect :)
[04:53] <Thinkl00p> perfect
[04:53] <Ge1> How do i save a file edited in vim?
[04:53] <lontra> Ge1: :wg
[04:53] <Lam_> !vmware
[04:53] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:53] <lontra> Ge1: :wq
[04:53] <lontra> i mean
[04:53] <DanaG> SuperMiguel: care to PM?
[04:53] <Tonren> Ge1: Or just :write
[04:53] <kaitlyn> irawan: No, that doesn't help.
[04:53] <Thinkl00p> ubuntu the newest version on the web is what? breezy hoary or dapper?
[04:54] <AbortD> dapper?
[04:54] <Tonren> Thinkl00p: Dapper
[04:54] <DanaG> newest STABLE is dapper.
[04:54] <SuperMiguel> DanaG: care ?
[04:54] <Ge1> huh? I type :write and nothing appens
[04:54] <JoseStefan> dapper aka 6.06
[04:54] <Tonren> Ge1: You must type :write and hit Enter
[04:54] <Lam_> LTS!
[04:54] <kaitlyn> irawan: That tells you how to use startx, not how to fix the permission issues from using startx that prevent it from actually working.
[04:54] <lontra> Ge1: hit esc then type :wq and hit enter
[04:54] <surgy> anyone know anything about tovid?
[04:54] <DanaG> What do you see in the volume control app?
[04:55] <SuperMiguel> im trayuing to install the gnome-mixer
[04:55] <Ge1> ok thanks
[04:55] <Ge1> now whats the exit command?
[04:55] <surgy> mind explaining a comand to me? tovid -vcd -ntsc  -in foo.avi  -out foo
[04:55] <lontra> Ge1: :q
[04:55] <DanaG> the original volume control should already be there.
[04:55] <lontra> Ge1: if you did :wq that is write and quit
[04:55] <SuperMiguel> i just see
[04:55] <SuperMiguel> CAPTURE feedback
[04:55] <SuperMiguel> :S
[04:56] <xyazabix> does anyone know how to download plesk with ubuntu LAMP server?
[04:56] <surgy> anyone thats tovid savy mind explaining the command tovid -vcd -ntsc  -in foo.avi  -out foo to me please?
[04:56] <JoseStefan> man tovid?
[04:56] <DanaG> Okay, but is it showing the SBLive?
[04:56] <surgy> yeah
[04:56] <Tonren> Can anyone explain to me why the "allow-hotplug" directive in /etc/network/interfaces is significant?
[04:57] <surgy> josestefen: something wrong with tovid?
[04:57] <DanaG> Tonren: Probably for cardbus cards?
[04:57] <JoseStefan> surgy, type: "man tovid" on console
[04:57] <Tonren> DanaG: What is a cardbus card, exactly?
[04:57] <SuperMiguel> nope
[04:57] <SuperMiguel> DanaG: is not
[04:57] <DanaG> Hmm.
[04:57] <DanaG> What is it showing in the titlebar?
[04:57] <holycow> how come root mounts and owns my usb mounted hd?  it seems to do this automagically .. but usb memory sticks are owned by me?  note: root doesn't exist of course and no other users a logged in here
[04:57] <surgy> josestefen i did, im a little slow and a little linux green, i need someone to help explain somethings a bit clearer
[04:58] <SuperMiguel> CA0106 (Alsa Mixer)
[04:58] <Kyral> holycow: root does exist (the account is still around, just the password is locked)
[04:58] <caseyomah_> !libdvdcss
[04:58] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:58] <DanaG> Hmm, perhaps that is the onboard.
[04:58] <SuperMiguel> yep
[04:58] <SuperMiguel> :S
[04:58] <surgy> caseyoma: was that aimed towards me?
[04:58] <SuperMiguel> let me try to do something on the bios
[04:59] <holycow> Kyral, appreciate the help but i'm not really interested in that answer ... i'm not exactly  a noob.  :-) thx tho
[04:59] <SuperMiguel> do you have msn?
[04:59] <Healot> is distributing livdvdcss2 outside US or EU legal?
[04:59] <DanaG> I have both of mine enabled -- onboard and addin.
[04:59] <SuperMiguel> umm
[04:59] <holycow> does anyone know why the system automounts certaing usb devices as owned by root btw?
[04:59] <caseyomah_> surgy, No, it was for me, but that's how you play copy protected DVDs on Linux.
[04:59] <SuperMiguel> and it did pick up
[04:59] <BillyJoejimbob> howdy ya'll. I have a network problem. i'm running two ubuntu boxes on a crossover cable. one machine is connected to a serial modem (i live in the boonies. only dialup available at the present time). I've tried several different things from the forum. the problem is I think that's borked some settings. I understand I need to have the default gateway device set to ppp0 but, in >System>Administration>Networking, the
[04:59] <SuperMiguel> the augity?
[04:59] <BillyJoejimbob> re is no means of changing the default gateway to ppp0. the only selection is eth0. can anyone help point me in the right direction?
[04:59] <surgy> caseyoma: i use vlc
[04:59] <THX-1138> !firestarter
[04:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[04:59] <DanaG> I have an AIM, or you can PM over IRC
[05:00] <THX-1138> !bastille
[05:00] <ubotu> bastille: Security hardening tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-12 (dapper), package size 358 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[05:00] <surgy> why are people talking about which messenger they use, ubuntu comes defualt with gaim...........
[05:00] <surgy> hello whyameye
[05:00] <Tonren> Where is the file that System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs refers to?
[05:01] <DanaG> Oh, and I have a yahoo and msn, each with the same name..
[05:01] <DanaG> I have my system set up with the onboard audio as primary (card 0).
[05:01] <THX-1138> irssi for irc too. - gawd it's geeky
[05:01] <tokenbad> chuckyp, it worked at one time...then had a problem with the driving becoming read only...so reinstalled os...ran fsck -f on the drive and remounted..and its working fine now...so then erased the nwn dir and did a reinstall...and thats when this error started
[05:01] <DanaG> I use it for system sounds (like GDM, and Gaim, and Firefox)
[05:01] <fuoco> is there a way to sync my sony cell phone with the computer running ubuntu/gnome ?
[05:02] <surgy> can someone tell me the open source equivelant to sonar audio production suite?
[05:02] <SuperMiguel> ill be back
[05:02] <Healot> I am using Linux with less-geeky style; go Visual
[05:02] <surgy> healot: you mean you dont browse with lynx?
[05:02] <Clinton__> has anyone had any luck with cpufreq ?
[05:02] <JoseStefan> lynx is fun
[05:03] <surgy> ubotu sonar
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sonar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Healot> nope :)
[05:03] <surgy> loser :)
[05:03] <LKRaider> I prefer elinks :D
[05:03] <surgy> j/k
[05:03] <Healot> i do testing of webpages compatibility with links and lynx though
[05:03] <DanaG> Clinton__: Do you have a specific issue?
[05:03] <THX-1138> Clinton - Is cpufreq used for overclocking?
[05:03] <Clinton__> THX-1138 for underclocking
[05:04] <Clinton__> DanaG well, its refusing to load the modules
[05:04] <DanaG> Hmm.
[05:04] <simtower> cpufreq reduces cpu speed based on a daemon
[05:04] <LKRaider> there is also w3m
[05:04] <BillyJoejimbob> i take it there are no dialup internet sharing gods in the house?
[05:04] <DanaG> Which is it refusing?
[05:04] <THX-1138> Clinton_ - Thanks
[05:04] <surgy> clinton_: do you really have that much power? or do you have a heat issue?
[05:04] <BillyJoejimbob> ~;-)
[05:04] <Clinton__> surgy heat issue
[05:04] <surgy> clinton_ oh ok
[05:04] <era86> any openbox users?
[05:05] <simtower> usually used on laptops to improve battery life
[05:05] <surgy> era86: i use open boxes everyday
[05:05] <era86> openbox.. the wm?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> I like MatchBox
[05:05] <DanaG> (In my case, just to be sure, I added speedstep-centrino, and cpufreq_[powersave|conservative|userspace|ondemand|performance]  to /etc/modules
[05:05] <THX-1138> << - Speed step gets me accused of "Speed Hack detected" online sometimes. - moght be worht a look. -    :)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> no relation to open/black/fluxbox
[05:06] <DanaG> , each on its own line.
[05:06] <DanaG> cpufreq_ondemand is my current.
[05:06] <varsendaggr> what is matchbox    is that the cars
[05:06] <era86> dr_willis: whats special about matchbox?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> era86,  everything is fullscreen and its made for very minimal systems.
[05:06] <tokenbad> anyone know what this means?  bash: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied  the command was done with sudo...
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> !info matchbox
[05:06] <ubotu> matchbox: base environment for resource-limited systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB
[05:07] <LKRaider> eh
[05:07] <simtower> does it work good for a server
[05:07] <varsendaggr> what is the coolest window manager outthere
[05:07] <simtower> 300mhz pentium
[05:07] <LKRaider> 32kb xD
[05:07] <SuperMiguel> DanaG:  it didnt work :( still 2 working
[05:07] <DanaG> I also manually edited /etc/powersave/cpufreq to enable cpufreq, set governer to kernel, and set the module to speedstep-centrino.
[05:07] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, could mean the file is not a bash script
[05:07] <varsendaggr> i installed mezzo   and all i got was a grey block
[05:07] <tokenbad> I get this after a fresh install of OS...
[05:07] <DanaG> What does cpufreq-info give you?  (in a console)
[05:07] <surgy> era86: the box is open when i put stuff in it
[05:07] <LKRaider> isn't there a minimal Xserver?
[05:07] <DanaG> Don't paste it all, just describe it.
[05:08] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, try: "file nwn"
[05:08] <surgy> anyone know of an avi to mpeg converter?
[05:08] <LKRaider> surgy: ffmpeg ;P
[05:08] <tokenbad> the file is nwn...its a script that loads the game...
[05:08] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install a creative live24 5.1 sound card
[05:09] <THX-1138> !soundblaster
[05:09] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[05:09] <varsendaggr> surgy, mencoder
[05:09] <surgy> lkraider: yeah tovid uses that, i dont.
[05:09] <tokenbad> JoseStefan, this is what it gives..nwn: Bourne shell script text executable
[05:09] <DanaG> Does the card at least show up?
[05:09] <SuperMiguel> nope
[05:09] <SuperMiguel> i donts see it
[05:09] <xyazabix> how can i edit a file in the commmand line?
[05:09] <SuperMiguel> dont*
[05:09] <surgy> varsendaggr: same response no clue how to use tovid
[05:09] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, then you should run it with sh, not bash
[05:09] <DanaG> SuperMiguel: try aplay -l
[05:10] <LKRaider> xyazabix: nano FileToEdit
[05:10] <varsendaggr> surgy, ok   just a sec
[05:10] <xyazabix> ty
[05:10] <tokenbad> JoseStefan, I don't understand...
[05:10] <^Ocean^> Is there any how-to's on installing Java 1.6 ?
[05:10] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, or just ./nwn
[05:10] <varsendaggr> can you install software?
[05:10] <varsendaggr> surgy,
[05:10] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, are you trying to do "bash ./nwn" ?
[05:10] <surgy> varsendaggr: yeeeesssss
[05:10] <tokenbad> JoseStefan, that is what I typed...and tried with sudo...and it gives that error
[05:10] <SuperMiguel> i see
[05:10] <DanaG> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] ,   <lots of random stuff>   card 1: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS Notebook [SB0530] ] 
[05:10] <tokenbad> no..just ./nwn and sudo ./nwn
[05:11] <DanaG> I set my audio players to use alsa -- device hw:0,1
[05:11] <SuperMiguel> ummm i see the same card 4 times
[05:11] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, try "sudo sh ./nwn"
[05:11] <DanaG> (that's for standard 2-channel audio)
[05:11] <SuperMiguel> and the name is CA0106
[05:11] <surgy> josestefan: is it ho-say stef-an, or jo-sey steve-in?
[05:11] <DanaG> And the other outputs are for multichannel.
[05:11] <cvt|expert> do you think my settings could be wrong [set to 2x] ?  http://i10.tinypic.com/2e4x5j5.png
[05:11] <tokenbad> JoseStefan, ./nwn: line 12: ./nwmain: Permission denied
[05:11] <DanaG> For surround in xine (dolby digital encoded ogm), I use plug:surround51:1
[05:11] <killer_demon> how do i put ubuntu in standby mode?
[05:11] <JoseStefan> surgy, 1st
[05:12] <surgy> josestefan: kewl
[05:12] <DanaG> :0 would be the first card, though :0 is assumed anyway.
[05:12] <kaitlyn> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[05:12] <SuperMiguel> so what can i do
[05:12] <surgy> varsendaggr: yeah?
[05:12] <DanaG> If you run plain alsamixer (in the console), does it give you more sliders?
[05:12] <kaitlyn> Am I the only one who has this prob lem that there doesn't seem to be a wiki or support doc for it?
[05:12] <killer_demon> does anybody know how to put ubuntu in standby mode?
[05:13] <SuperMiguel> alsamixer?
[05:13] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, i think you should re-install the game from zero
[05:13] <simtower> killer_demon, menu in upper right
[05:13] <surgy> killer_demon: i think thats under power management
[05:13] <tokenbad> JoseStefan, I have twice
[05:13] <LKRaider> kaitlyn: you get that after a clean install?
[05:13] <puff> Evening, I'm on an old hoary install and I'm having problems installing with aptitude.
[05:13] <puff> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[05:13] <puff>   postgresql postgresql-client
[05:13] <puff> 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 76 not upgraded.
[05:13] <puff> Need to get 3275kB of archives. After unpacking 11.7MB will be used.
[05:13] <puff> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]  y
[05:13] <puff> The following packages are not AUTHENTICATED:
[05:13] <puff>   postgresql postgresql-client
[05:13] <killer_demon> simtower, up there it only says  suspend
[05:13] <puff> Do you want to continue? [y/N]  y
[05:13] <DanaG> aah, CA0106 IS the sblive.
[05:13] <puff> Writing extended state information... Done
[05:13] <eXcentra> whoa
[05:13] <puff> Damn.
[05:13] <puff> That was supposed to be the pastebin url:  The following NEW packages will be installed:
[05:13] <puff>   postgresql postgresql-client
[05:13] <SuperMiguel> it is
[05:13] <puff> 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 76 not upgraded.
[05:13] <puff> Need to get 3275kB of archives. After unpacking 11.7MB will be used.
[05:13] <kaitlyn> LKRaider: I get that when manually trying to use X.  gdm works fine.
[05:14] <puff> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]  y
[05:14] <puff> The following packages are not AUTHENTICATED:
[05:14] <puff>   postgresql postgresql-client
[05:14] <puff> Do you want to continue? [y/N]  y
[05:14] <SuperMiguel> i just saw that
[05:14] <puff> Writing extended state information... Done
[05:14] <SuperMiguel> on google xD
[05:14] <eXcentra> ......haha
[05:14] <puff> Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main postgresql-client 7.4.7-2ubuntu2.2
[05:14] <surgy> ubotu snes emulation
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snes emulation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <puff>   404 Not Found
[05:14] <LKRaider> kaitlyn: with startx ?
[05:14] <puff> Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main postgresql 7.4.7-2ubuntu2.2
[05:14] <puff>   404 Not Found
[05:14] <puff> Reading package lists... Done
[05:14] <simtower> killer_demon, you can change S1 to S3 but it might not be supported by your kernel/hardware combo
[05:14] <puff> Building dependency tree
[05:14] <puff> Reading extended state information
[05:14] <^Ocean^> Is there any way to speed up Java ?
[05:14] <puff> Initializing package states... Done
[05:14] <surgy> anyone know a linux ported snes emulator?
[05:14] <JoseStefan> try removing any nwn settings that might be on your personal home folder, you shouldnt have to start games with sudo, that can cause problems
[05:14] <puff> Goddammit.
[05:14] <puff> My apologies.
[05:14] <puff> While I'm at it, can we fix xterminal pasting in ubuntu? :-)
[05:14] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, ^^^
[05:14] <DanaG> kaitlyn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[05:14] <surgy> is snes9x ported to linux?
[05:14] <puff> ^Ocean^: What do you mean by speed up?  There are a numberof settings you can tweak.
[05:14] <SuperMiguel> DanaG: so what can i do?
[05:14] <LKRaider> surgy: zsnes
[05:14] <varsendaggr> surgy, yes   i
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> surgy,  there are several Snes emulatoprs for linux.. and yes thts one of them
[05:14] <varsendaggr> ahhh
[05:15] <^Ocean^> puff: well all my Java apps run very slow
[05:15] <DanaG> Well, do you see sliders for things like "front" and "surround"?
[05:15] <^Ocean^> puff^ and take like 50% of my cpu
[05:15] <SuperMiguel> yep
[05:15] <JoseStefan> tokenbad, also, check the game install to make sure the files are readable by all
[05:15] <SuperMiguel> but they dont work :S
[05:15] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23405
[05:15] <varsendaggr> SuperMiguel, waht?
[05:15] <varsendaggr> what?
[05:15] <puff> ^Ocean^: what sort of java apps, and how are you running them?
[05:15] <varsendaggr> what doesn't work?
[05:15] <^Ocean^> example Mercury
[05:15] <puff> Are we talking about tomcat, webapps, or browser applets?
[05:15] <SuperMiguel> varsendaggr: i have a 5.1 set of speakers but i just hear 2
[05:16] <^Ocean^> a messenger client.
[05:16] <kaitlyn> DanaG: THANK YOU.  :)
[05:16] <DanaG> On my card, there are "PCM", "PCM "Center", and such
[05:16] <^Ocean^> and it runs, by a script for it i figure..
[05:16] <varsendaggr> hmm
[05:16] <puff> messenger?
[05:16] <puff> Hm.
[05:16] <puff> What version of java?
[05:16] <DanaG> Those are for true multichannel out -
[05:16] <^Ocean^> 1.4
[05:16] <puff> Well, you could start by upgrading to 1.5 and see if it speeds up.
[05:16] <puff> What messenger client?
[05:16] <DanaG> but the "Front" and "Center" and such are for 2-channel - to - 5.1-channel upmixing.
[05:16] <^Ocean^> its called Mercury
[05:17] <SuperMiguel> so what can i do?
[05:17] <^Ocean^> and is there an easy apt-get for 1.5 ?
[05:17] <DanaG> So for Xine, use plug:surround51
[05:17] <muhammad> heey i want to make a ghost image from my dapper i tried recently most of the progs that make images like part image gparted and some other ways and none of them succeeded any suggestion ?
[05:17] <puff> not as far as i know, though there may be in the future, Sun announced a couple weeks ago that they're going to modify the licensing to make it more open source friendly.
[05:17] <DanaG> Oh, and to unhide those sliders in the gnome-volume-control, go to edit -> preferences
[05:17] <puff> How did you set up java?  By default java maxes out at 64MB of memory.
[05:18] <SuperMiguel> So for Xine, use plug:surround51 how do i do that
[05:18] <DanaG> Whay player do you use?
[05:18] <^Ocean^> well i told java to give mercury more memory,   now it dont crash on me randomly
[05:18] <puff> Anybody know what's up with this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23405
[05:18] <DanaG> I use kaffeine because it is the only one to work under XGL.
[05:18] <puff> I'm on an old ubuntu install, hoary IRRC.
[05:18] <SuperMiguel> do you want me to donwload that one
[05:18] <SuperMiguel> to see if it work?
[05:19] <DanaG> gxine should work too.
[05:19] <puff> yah, hoary.  is all support dropped for hoary or something?  I just want to install postgres.
[05:19] <Kyral> DanaG: just set the Xine engine to use OpenGL
[05:19] <puff> ^Ocean^: how much memory?
[05:19] <DanaG> gxine gets the menus corrupt too.
[05:19] <DanaG> But kaffeine is fine.
[05:19] <^Ocean^> 256
[05:19] <wtroche> can someone assist me with the flash plugin, I followed the directions from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox but its not working for me
[05:19] <DanaG> You have to set the xine engine to advanced config mode, and set the correct number of channels.
[05:20] <THX-1138> DanaG - Do you know why XGL/Compiz would work for 2 mins then lock up the machine?
[05:20] <DanaG> Then somewhere will be the option to disable "downmix to 2 channels"
[05:20] <puff> ^Ocean^: okay, that should be plenty.  maybe try running it with the server JVM.
[05:20] <puff> How are you startin gup Mercury?
[05:20] <^Ocean^> hmm im not sure ..
[05:20] <DanaG> And for merely cloning 2-channel audio, that's a separate set of sliders in the gnome-volume-control.
[05:20] <^Ocean^> lol i type Mercury and it runs
[05:21] <puff> Well, let's start with this:  at some point you had an ubuntu box (I assume, otherwise why are we talking about this here).  You wanted Mercury. Mercury needs java.  What did you do?
[05:21] <^Ocean^> i did apt-get install jre1.4
[05:21] <^Ocean^> or something along thoes lines
[05:22] <puff> Uh....huh.
[05:22] <puff> I am skeptical.
[05:22] <puff> apt support for java sucks, mostly due to licensing/ideology conflicts.
[05:22] <^Ocean^> if i type java it says Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[05:22] <puff> http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Java_JRE/JDK_installation_with_java-package
[05:22] <JoseStefan> !java > ^Ocean^
[05:23] <puff> and then you installed mercury at some point, and told Mercury where to find java.
[05:23] <puff> And how did you up the java memory to 256MB?
[05:23] <^Ocean^> i modifyyed one of the mercury .lax files
[05:23] <|thunder> what is mercury ?
[05:24] <puff> |thunder: some sort of msn messenger client, written in java.
[05:24] <hyperb0lix> irssi or bitchx, anyone?
[05:24] <BHSPitLappy> hey
[05:24] <M-> puff, if you're using dapper, you can install the sun jre from multiverse.
[05:24] <JoseStefan> an ugly car brand from the ford empire
[05:24] <JoseStefan> :P
[05:24] <raknam> hey how do i make a terminal window transparent?
[05:24] <|thunder> puff, ahh. thx
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> hyperb0lix,  sirc ! :p
[05:24] <M-> -- without the hassle of using java-package.
[05:24] <BHSPitLappy> I have a wireless driver set up in ndiswrapper, and it detects the hardware finely. but modprobe ndiswrapper completely locks up the system
[05:24] <holycow> *sigh* time to turn off windows u pdates
[05:24] <puff> M- Yay!  I'm happy that Java support on ubuntu is getting better.
[05:24] <hyperb0lix> I will check it out!
[05:24] <apo11o> Hi, I just installed this GUI called (GUI for wpa_supplicant) and I'm not sure how to access it. What do I do now"
[05:24] <puff> Unfortunately, I'm on hoary.
[05:25] <puff> How dangerous is the upgrade?
[05:25] <holycow> how can anyone expect a 'production' system to autoupdate without providing for a testing / staging environment?
[05:25] <M-> puff, absolutely. You can even use add/remove to install it :)
[05:25] <holycow> damned redmond dummies
[05:25] <JoseStefan> puff, should be pretty stable
[05:25] <M-> puff, you can't go directly to dapper. You need to go to breezy first
[05:25] <puff> I'm thinking about upgrading mainly because of this issue:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23405
[05:25] <caseyomah_> I removed the CD/DVD from my repositories and now I can't install JRE, is there an online repository for JRE (1.4/5)?
[05:25] <holycow> M-, thats wrong
[05:25] <holycow> you can go directly to dapper if you want
[05:25] <puff> Okay, so I have to do it intwo stages, but how safe is it?
[05:25] <holycow> its no big deal, there are no intermediary dependencies in linux
[05:25] <puff> I've had some... unpleasantness in apt upgrades in the past.
[05:25] <JoseStefan> holycow, that method is not officially supported
[05:26] <holycow> you just need to make sure ALL your dependencies are installed
[05:26] <puff> How involved a process is it?
[05:26] <M-> holycow, well, it didn't work for me on amd64 - ran into issues with inittools dependencies
[05:26] <kameron> anyone use proftpd?
[05:26] <apo11o> GUI for wpa_supplicantHi, I just installed this GUI called (GUI for wpa_supplicant) and I'm not sure how to access it. What do I do now?
[05:26] <JoseStefan> !upgrade > puff
[05:26] <holycow> and check for missing packages as not everything is 'replaced'
[05:26] <holycow> JoseStefan, what is officially supported?
[05:26] <holycow> JoseStefan, has anyone here actually paid for support?
[05:26] <M-> IIRC, dapper inittools won't install properly if you're running < 2.6.12
[05:26] <JoseStefan> holycow, step-by-step
[05:26] <krazykit> any reason that ubuntu's evince doesn't support comic files?
[05:26] <JoseStefan> holycow, i mean, skipping versions might break
[05:26] <holycow> don't listen to them.  its fine.  there is  no technical difficulty to dist-upgrading
[05:27] <JoseStefan> holycow, the wiki clearly states skipping is not advised
[05:27] <holycow> there is no such thing as 'officially supported' unless you are buying support from canonical, which last time i checked is on a case by case basis
[05:27] <THX-1138> holycow - got to hope they have a solid business model. - Ubuntu is awesome. (crosses fingers)
[05:27] <holycow> fixing anything that borks is par for the course, ubuntu upgrades have never been fully smooth
[05:27] <apo11o> Hi, I just installed this GUI called (GUI for wpa_supplicant) and I'm not sure how to access it. What do I do now?
[05:27] <aSt3raL> should i get rid of the old kernels in grub?
[05:27] <holycow> THX-1138, they do, we are planning on buying support, all our systems are going ubuntu
[05:28] <apo11o> Can anyone helo me?
[05:28] <aSt3raL> i always use the most recent one
[05:28] <apo11o> help*
[05:28] <adam> hi, every time i install something from the terminal, synaptic or even when i update ubuntu i get this error message: E: libapache-mod-choke: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:28] <holycow> brb
[05:28] <caseyomah_> Is there an online depository for Java?
[05:28] <THX-1138> holycow - Whew! - grin - doubtful that the 30 bucks i left them will even cover the bandwidth i used. - lol
[05:28] <JoseStefan> holycow, puff: please realize that the wiki does not contain any guide for hoary to dapper
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:29] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:29] <AbortD> anyone know if it would hurt grub if i removed the windows partition?
[05:30] <M-> AbortD, is grub installed to your MBR?
[05:30] <AbortD> MBR?
[05:30] <THX-1138> AbortD - It won't unless the master boot record is overwritten. - just an empty entry to an even more empty former windows partition. eh?
[05:30] <AbortD> i think it's installed around my linux partition
[05:31] <AbortD> i want to delete windows
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Time for some Grub/MBR 101 reading. :P
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> you can delete the partition. it should not affect grub
[05:31] <cvt|expert> i clicked a malicious link and now everytime i maximize and minimize firefox the window is very small. what do i need to edit?
[05:31] <AbortD> gonna log into windows and go into partition magic
[05:31] <adam> E: libapache-mod-choke: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1, what does it meen?
[05:31] <AbortD> well i'll be back in a few have fun
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  the link resized your firefox window?
[05:32] <THX-1138> AbortD - The alternate intall CD has a rescue mode if you decide you need it. - tho, grub can be reinstalled without too much fuss from the command line ask ubotu about !grub if you need it.
[05:32] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  yes.
[05:33] <phate> is there a config file for powernowd? it is stepping my processor to much and I want to change that
[05:33] <irawan> adam: try to download that package from a different repository
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  perhaps hit F11 to fullscreen the browser..   or close it out compeletely.  YOu are using gnome as your window manager?
[05:34] <^Ocean^> uhhg how do i rename a file that starts with "-"
[05:34] <adam> irawan: i am new to this whole linux things so how do i do that
[05:34] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  kde.
[05:34] <irawan> adam: it may means that that package you downloaded is broken
[05:34] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  that fixed it.
[05:35] <phate> ^Ocean^: rm-rf '-<whatever>' iirc
[05:35] <M-> ^Ocean^, ignore phate
[05:35] <phate> or is it \-<whatever>...
[05:35] <M-> ^Ocean^, mv \-<rest-of-file-name>
[05:35] <irawan> adam: try other mirror, see packages.ubuntu.com
[05:35] <phate> M-: probably a good idea
[05:35] <M-> ^Ocean^, err, mv \-<rest-of-file-name> <new-file-name>
[05:35] <irawan> adam: search for that package
[05:36] <adam> irawan: pk
[05:36] <adam> ok*
[05:36] <M-> phate, he wanted to rename, not remove is all :)
[05:36] <xyazabix> can anyone help me with an istall of plesk??? trying to run the autoinstaller
[05:36] <phate> M-: just realized that
[05:36] <irawan> adam: download it, and then in terminal, sudo dpkg -i filename
[05:36] <^Ocean^> mv: invalid option --
[05:36] <^Ocean^> gives me that
[05:36] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  the link actually made my browser move away from my pointer and made firefox continue to open new urls of the same link until it crashed
[05:36] <M-> ^Ocean^, what did you type, exactly?
[05:36] <xyazabix> can anyone help me with an istall of plesk??? trying to run the autoinstaller
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  i am reminded of why i have scripting disabled with the 'noscript' extension
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:37] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  ah. that was my next question. thx
[05:38] <^Ocean^> mv \- best day.mpg blah.mpg
[05:38] <phate> xyazabix: plesk? not to be rude but this chan is for ubuntu
[05:38] <xyazabix> phate: trying to install on ubuntu...
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  its a MUST get extension I think.. and the adblock + adblock updater
[05:38] <hyperb0lix> Hmm, some channels chop off the x in my name
[05:38] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  do you know if there's a no script solution for konqueror?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  no idea. i rarely use konq. for web surfing
[05:39] <hyperb0lix> Fluxbox ftw!
[05:39] <|thunder> aynone know why xgl/compiz would cause gnome to loose control of usb mouse sensitivity? It was working prior.
[05:39] <M-> ^Ocean^, arh, you need another couple of \s for the space (\ escapes special shell characters) -- i.e. mv \-\ best\ day.mpg blah.mpg
[05:40] <phate> xyazabix: plesk is also closed source, so unless you care to share (which is illegal) dunno how we can help
[05:41] <SuperMiguel> i need help with my speakers :(
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> i dont even know what plesk is.
[05:41] <xyazabix> phate: you can download for free... for one server
[05:41] <^Ocean^> im still getting -- invalid option
[05:41] <GutterPunk> Hi... people probably ask this a lot in here... What's the definitive howto on how to install and configure XGL? Cause I noticed packages are available using apt-get now
[05:41] <JoseStefan> ^Ocean^, just use quotes
[05:41] <GutterPunk> I'd like to install it the best (most straightforward) way
[05:41] <JoseStefan> ^Ocean^, mv "old" "new"
[05:42] <^Ocean^> same error
[05:42] <FluxD> @GutterPunk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090 ?
[05:43] <GutterPunk> FluxD, I've read that one, but it appears to be outdated
[05:43] <|thunder> aynone know why xgl/compiz would cause gnome to loose control of usb mouse sensitivity? It was working prior. I can't control my mouse sensitivity even if the 32 cube is not active.
[05:43] <Ignacio> hi
[05:43] <puff> JoseStefan: This does not fill me with confidence :-(.
[05:44] <FluxD> GutterPunk I think that will be the "best" way you will probably get. Since its not meant for widespread use now.
[05:44] <JoseStefan> puff, you read the guide?
[05:44] <puff> Maybe I should wait until the weekend to upgrade.  I'd hate to have to go through the next two days without ubuntu.
[05:44] <Ignacio> anybody can play alien arena 2007 on dapper ?
[05:44] <puff> Reading 'em, yea.
[05:44] <GutterPunk> FluxD, alright, thanks!
[05:44] <kaitlyn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1496517#post1496517
[05:45] <JoseStefan> puff, you could download the stuff over night
[05:45] <puff> What does "consider trying the Live CD before upgrading" mean?
[05:45] <FluxD> btw does anyone know how I can start a program on ubuntu startup
[05:45] <FluxD> automatically
[05:45] <wtroche> anyone willing to help a newbie ubuntu user get his macromedia flash plugin working
[05:45] <puff> Running the new version uder the live CD?
[05:45] <JoseStefan> puff: pretty much
[05:45] <puff> Why is this recommended?
[05:45] <puff> To make sure the newer version supports your hardware?
[05:46] <JoseStefan> puff: to take a look at what your target is
[05:46] <Vanique> hey !!
[05:46] <phate> puff: to see if you like it, and it doesn't affect your current setup
[05:46] <LKRaider> GutterPunk: http://xgl.compiz.info/
[05:46] <JoseStefan> puff: that could be another reason
[05:46] <Vanique> how to remove not empty directory using konsole ?
[05:46] <puff> Ah.
[05:46] <puff> Oy, remove firefox?
[05:46] <Vanique> ;-)
[05:46] <JoseStefan> puff: many people upgrade for a 'reason', with the livecd you could check if it satifies your 'need'
[05:46] <BHSPitLappy> I have a wireless driver set up in ndiswrapper, and it detects the hardware finely. but modprobe ndiswrapper completely locks up the system
[05:46] <|thunder> Vanique, rm -Rf folder
[05:46] <Vanique> no, some of my private data
[05:47] <iceman24k> w t heck cant open gnome look
[05:47] <FluxD> wtroche Whats the problem?
[05:47] <Vanique> |thunder: thanks man! ;)
[05:47] <LKRaider> GutterPunk: http://compiz.blogspot.com/
[05:47] <puff> JoseStefan: Well, I *want* to upgrade, for one the newer versions are supposed to have better support for my thinkpad's 802.11 hardware.
[05:47] <puff> But I'm gunshy, due to some nightmare problems in the past.
[05:47] <puff> On debian, but still..
[05:47] <wtroche> i run the command  sudo update-flashplugin and get this error automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[05:47] <phate> puff: well thats what the live cd is for
[05:47] <Homer> hey
[05:47] <phate> its a complete ubuntu setup that runs from cd
[05:48] <JoseStefan> puff, the guides should be pretty simple, as for time, consider overnight
[05:48] <Homer> can a document written in gedit be opened in notepad in windows?
[05:48] <SuperMiguel> to remove something
[05:48] <SuperMiguel> is sudo apt-remove xxx?
[05:48] <FluxD> wtroche the way I got it to work was just install the one from adobe site for linux
[05:48] <JoseStefan> puff, there is a trick to just download the stuff, without installing
[05:48] <GutterPunk> LKRaider, that looks great
[05:48] <GutterPunk> thanks
[05:48] <LKRaider> :)
[05:49] <wtroche> FluxD, thanks I will try that, is it a deb file or do I need to complile it
[05:49] <FluxD> I think it as deb
[05:49] <wtroche> thanks :)
[05:49] <FluxD> wait
[05:49] <FluxD> tar.gz :(
[05:49] <JoseStefan> puff, using the "-d" option with dist-upgrade
[05:49] <puff> hm, I keep getting 404 not found with aptitude... did something change with the apt servers?
[05:50] <iceman24k> anyone know why firefow would fail to fully open webpages
[05:50] <wtroche> oh bummer
[05:50] <FluxD> well I still installed it somehow
[05:50] <JoseStefan> puff, have you done: sudo apt-get update ?
[05:50] <FluxD> I dont rember compiling at all
[05:51] <FluxD> btw LKRaider is there one for non ati and nvidia cards?
[05:51] <LKRaider> FluxD: I am not aware of any, sorry :(
[05:52] <Tonren> What's a good music authoring program for Linux, like GarageBand, Jeskola Buzz or Reasons 3?
[05:53] <johnstar> audacity
[05:53] <varsendaggr> Tonren, lmms
[05:53] <FluxD> anyone have any idea on how I can make a program run automatically on startup?
[05:53] <varsendaggr> audacity,   rosegarden
[05:53] <varsendaggr> FluxD, what wm?
[05:53] <FluxD> gaim
[05:53] <varsendaggr> are we talking gnome of fluxbox?
[05:54] <FluxD> ??
[05:54] <bruenig> FluxD, put it in the gnome startup programs
[05:54] <effer> honestly, how well does an ipod work with linux? (before i buy one for my girlfriend)
[05:54] <FluxD> bruenig: Where is that?
[05:54] <Tonren> varsendaggr: Thanks man.  Any other ones you know of, or is lmms unmatched in awesomeness?
[05:54] <wtroche> FluxD, thanks that did the trick
[05:54] <bruenig> FluxD, System>Preferences>Sessions, then navigate to the startup programs tab, then put the command
[05:54] <FluxD> np wtroche
[05:54] <johnstar> ipod works ok
[05:55] <johnstar> at least the ver 4 I have
[05:55] <DanaG> Argh, my MIDI is b0rked.
[05:55] <johnstar> shuffle works best
[05:55] <effer> johnstar, as in, its easy to transfer music to it from your personal library?
[05:55] <DanaG> It plays for a while, but then one or all of the channels freezes.
[05:56] <johnstar> ya apt-get gtkpod
[05:56] <bruenig> sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[05:56] <FluxD> ty bruenig
[05:56] <effer> well i haven't got the ipod yet....my gf wants one, and she wanted me to make sure it would run well with her ubuntu installation
[05:57] <puff> JoseStefan: Damn, I'm rusty.  Been doing a contract in corporate america, a _bank_, ugh, very restrictive firewall.
[05:57] <johnstar> you need the gtkpod-aac
[05:57] <bruenig> effer, yeah something that popular, you have to know it is going to be available to be used with linux
[05:57] <puff> JoseStefan: That fixed it.
[05:57] <puff> JoseStefan: Thanks.
[05:57] <FluxD> can ubuntu "communicate" with my windows partition?
[05:57] <johnstar> sudo apt-get install gtkpod-aac
[05:57] <effer> bruenig, i agree...i told her i was sure it was, but she wanted me to make sure (before we spend the money on one)
[05:57] <varsendaggr> Tonren, getting music and audio working together in linux can be a frusteration deal.   you should look at ubuntustudio
[05:57] <johnstar> the other doesent support m4a
[05:58] <bruenig> FluxD, although your question is unclear, I will say yes
[05:58] <wd3>  installed xfce for ubuntu last night, just turned on system and my background image is gone and the right mouse click menu is gone... help.
[05:58] <bddermn> Cn linux just drop some chrcters from the keybord or is it more likely tht my lptop keybord is bd?
[05:58] <Tonren> varsendaggr: Better for noobs than lmms?
[05:58] <varsendaggr> Tonren, i prefer ardour  and audacity to lmms   lmms is like fruity loops
[05:58] <darkbane> noob here...just saying hi
[05:58] <FluxD> bruenig I mean like transfer of files etc..
[05:58] <krazykit> bddermn: probably the keyboard.
[05:58] <JoseStefan> puff, so will you be upgrading today? or on the weekend?
[05:58] <Tonren> varsendaggr: Audacity is more for editing, rather than authoring, though
[05:58] <bruenig> FluxD, depending on what the filesystem is, ntfs or fat32, there are different abilities but I know that they can at least both be read
[05:58] <effer> wd3, you need to run something from term to restart it...but i can't remember
[05:58] <bddermn> thnks
[05:58] <varsendaggr> Tonren, if you can get the sound working    go with whatever
[05:59] <FluxD> mine is win xp pro sp2
[05:59] <Tonren> varsendaggr: hmm
[05:59] <krazykit> he left...
[05:59] <varsendaggr> ardour is good for authoring too
[05:59] <wd3> anybody know what effer forgot
[05:59] <wd3> effer, thanks
[05:59] <effer> wd3, i would ask in #fluxbox
[05:59] <FluxD> mine is win xp pro sp2 ntfs bruenig
[05:59] <Vanique> how to check how much space i have left on my hdd and stuff like that>
[06:00] <Vanique> ?
[06:00] <puff> JoseStefan: This weekend.
[06:00] <wd3> effer, this sound familiar?  alt+f2 -> xfdesktop
[06:00] <effer> wd3, yeah
[06:00] <beuno> Vanique:   df
[06:00] <effer> wd3, that might be it
[06:00] <cvt|expert> how do i trap all the quotes of a certain nick into a separate log?
[06:00] <bruenig> FluxD, would be easier if it were fat32, but you can read ntfs and there are some projects that allow you to write to it but they are "unstable" still
[06:00] <JoseStefan> puff, personally i prefer the apt-get methods
[06:00] <Vanique> thanks
[06:00] <wd3> effer,  what will keep it from leaving on shut off?
[06:00] <puff> JoseStefan:  my home internet connection has been flaky, I'll have to leave it a friend's house and use their connection.
[06:01] <puff> JoseStefan: For upgrading?
[06:01] <DanaG> Anyone know how  to fix midi?
[06:01] <effer> wd3, i'm not sure...i used to have the same problem occasionally
[06:01] <JoseStefan> puff: yes, the guides will usually describe more than 1 method
[06:01] <effer> wd3, but i run KDE now, so it's kinda hazy :P
[06:01] <varsendaggr> DanaG, you can look at the ubuntustudio project
[06:01] <DanaG> Well, it's a playback issue.
[06:01] <effer> wd3, i talked to you a long time ago about flux, under the name 'juztin', i believe
[06:01] <bruenig> FluxD, when I still dual booted the best way to exchange data was to make a seperate fat32 partition and any files I wanted to share, just keep on it
[06:01] <wd3> effer, fyi.... it works.
[06:02] <DanaG> Kmid and pmidi both freeze.
[06:02] <wd3> effer, juztin... hey man!
[06:02] <CharonX> Is there any fs type that may yield better performance then others in sw RAID0 ?
[06:02] <effer> wd3, what's up :D
[06:02] <bruenig> FluxD, or you can keep all the files you want to share on your ubuntu ext3 partition and get a windows drive that allows it to read ext3
[06:02] <bruenig> driver*
[06:03] <varsendaggr> FluxD, you should flush windows
[06:03] <AbortD> alright
[06:03] <FluxD> bruenig windows can read ext3 partition? I know partition manager by norton can show the files but dont know if transfer is possible
[06:03] <wd3> effer, private me
[06:03] <FluxD> varsendaggr lol
[06:03] <bruenig> FluxD, here is a link to the driver if you want to use the windows reading ext3 method http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[06:03] <DanaG> !ext2ifs
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <DARKGuy> bruenig: excuse my intrusion - do you know one which does? I once tried one but it used to hang my windoze every now and then when accessing the driver
[06:03] <AbortD> if windows partition is in the boot boundary does that mean i cannot move my linux partition to that spot?
[06:03] <DARKGuy> *drive
[06:03] <DanaG> (ubotu should add that)
[06:03] <varsendaggr> FluxD, if you can give me a good reason i will let you leave this irc room without a black eye
[06:03] <DanaG> (and ntfs-3g)
[06:03] <bruenig> of course you will need to install that on your windows install
[06:03] <Vanique> gnite fellaz
[06:03] <Vanique> :)
[06:04] <FluxD> varsendaggr games
[06:04] <david1> anybody got qemu emulator working on dapper?
[06:04] <axisys> how do i force reinstall vmware player? i get this http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7so55538.html
[06:04] <effer> wd3, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:04] <axisys> david1: i got it working
[06:04] <wd3> effer, ok
[06:04] <bruenig> DARKGuy, the windows drivers are supposed to be really stable as they are built on an SDK kit provided by microsoft specifically for writing filesystem drivers
[06:05] <axisys> !vmware > axisys
[06:05] <DanaG> ..anyone?
[06:05] <david1> axisys, I compiled it from source code OK but when I run it flips the graphics into a color pattern and freezes the machine hard
[06:05] <FluxD> varsendaggr no other reason other than that for which I use windows
[06:05] <AbortD> if windows partition is in the boot boundary does that mean i cannot move my linux partition to that spot?
[06:05] <DARKGuy> bruenig: Weird. I hope they've updated since I used it, 'cause it used to hang my system when acessing the drive :/ oh well :P
[06:06] <bruenig> DARKGuy, experiences for some do not denote experiences for all. Also, causation or correlation questions arise with your claims.
[06:06] <varsendaggr> i've been in bills house
[06:06] <FluxD> the one which took 6 years to make?
[06:06] <jaso1> i am trying to find the disks-admin tool in 6.10... did it disappear? what is the new program to manage disks
[06:06] <varsendaggr> lotsa houses take 6 years to make
[06:07] <david1> axisys, do you remember what instructions you followed? (I have Linux Journal article, and qemu website)
[06:07] <axisys> !qemu > david1
[06:07] <varsendaggr> jaso1, Administration>>Disk
[06:07] <FluxD> this house is like next to a lake on 100 acres...
[06:07] <varsendaggr> system in the pull down menue
[06:07] <Asc> vars: but Bill's took that long because they kept making the construction workers change things that had already been built
[06:08] <bruenig> !offtopic
[06:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:08] <jaso1> varsendaggr:  yeah.. that is what i would think. but there is no entry.. and when i try #disks-admin... says not found... and i try to emerge no look
[06:08] <Realcoolguy> is there an easy way to get networking running on an intel 1000 something ethernet controller that doesn't work?
[06:08] <chet> hi all, i just installed compiz, now when it loads everything is mirrored or flipped.  any ideas?
[06:08] <varsendaggr> jaso1, what are you running?
[06:08] <bruenig> chet, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:08] <varsendaggr> try #gentoo
[06:08] <FluxD> chet get a mirror :)
[06:09] <chet> thanks bruenig
[06:09] <chet> haha
[06:09] <_priest> when configuring pxe boot in dhcpd.conf defining a group { hardware ethernet addr } is that of the dhcp server or the client you are trying to pxe?
[06:09] <jaso1> varsendaggr: 6.10... i will try the ubuntu+1 channel i iddn't know it existed
[06:09] <varsendaggr> jaso1, you tried to emerge a program?
[06:10] <jaso1> varsendaggr:  no.. i tried to apt-get install disks-admin
[06:10] <FluxD> this gnome xchat is missing a lot of features :(
[06:10] <jaso1> varsendagger:  old habits hard to break
[06:10] <bruenig> FluxD, don't do gnome xchat, just get the normal xchat
[06:11] <burnick> hi, sound was working last night....until today when i did a reboot can somebody help? pls ...gnome says no volume control GStreamer plugins and /or devices found
[06:11] <FluxD> do I need to uninstall it first?
[06:11] <bruenig> FluxD, do sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome, then sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:11] <FluxD> okies thanks bruenig
[06:11] <smax> hiya
[06:11] <Dace> FluxD: gnome in general is missing a lot of features ;)
[06:11] <FluxD> hehe
[06:11] <smax> gnome is nice
[06:12] <bruenig> gnome is minimalistic, kde is for kindergarteners
[06:12] <FluxD> some guy on digg.com was blabbing about that and kde
[06:12] <marcagio> I'm still setting up my Ubuntu here after a few days of hard work and i can't get my mp3s to play in any of the players i installed and i installed all the codecs and similar stuff from the synaptics :S
[06:12] <bruenig> there you go argument ended
[06:12] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Anyone want to help me figure out my sound issues using a HD-Intel/ICH6/Sigmatel, alsamixer sees the card, and it worked when I first installed, but after the usual updates, I get no sound at all, there are a bunch of threads regarding this on the forums, but I haven't really found a fix besides one guy went ahead and compiled his own version of alsa, but his instructions on doing so are incomplete
[06:12] <godsmacko> root@Godsmack:/usr/local/src# apt-get source ffmpeg
[06:12] <godsmacko> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[06:12] <godsmacko> Creando rbol de dependencias... Hecho
[06:12] <godsmacko> Ignorando el archivo ya descargado 'ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1.dsc'
[06:12] <godsmacko> Ignorando el archivo ya descargado 'ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918.orig.tar.gz'
[06:12] <bruenig> marcagio, have you gone to the restricted page
[06:12] <godsmacko> Ignorando el archivo ya descargado 'ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1.diff.gz'
[06:12] <FluxD> marcagio try xmms
[06:12] <godsmacko> Necesito descargar 0B de archivos fuente.
[06:12] <godsmacko> Ignorando desempaquetamiento de paquetes ya desempaquetados en ffmpeg-0.cvs20050918
[06:12] <godsmacko> no entiendo
[06:12] <bruenig> !es
[06:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:12] <DanaG> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: I had the same issue.
[06:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> DanaG, The thing used to work perfect, :-/
[06:13] <DanaG> 1 possible fix: look at the snd-had-intel option "position_fix"
[06:13] <bruenig> ubotu: tell marcagio about restricted
[06:13] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> DanaG, when can I get more info about that?
[06:13] <DanaG> close all sound apps using that card, and sudo rmmod snd-had-intel
[06:13] <CharonX> marcagio, Can you play any other sounds on your computer ?
[06:13] <marcagio> I did try xmms... and what's the restricted page? you mean the one where it talks about non-free codecs?
[06:14] <DanaG> then try to sudo modprobe snd-had-intel position_fix=1
[06:14] <DanaG> or position_fix=2
[06:14] <bruenig> marcagio, the page that tells you how to install all of that stuff, mp3 support and others
[06:14] <marcagio> yes i hear the login and logout and the operating system usage sounds...
[06:14] <DanaG> ("all sound apps" includes the mixer tray thingy.)
[06:14] <bruenig> !restricted
[06:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <marcagio> I did install everything they said there... I did all the commands in the terminal and the installations semmed to be fine
[06:14] <ClayG> anyone remember the common screen commands, dropping out of it, naming the individual screens, etc?
[06:15] <JoseStefan> ClayG, "man screen"
[06:15] <DanaG> If it works, add that to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:15] <DanaG> My case:  options snd-hda-intel  position_fix=1
[06:15] <ClayG> oh good idea, what about google? is that good also?
[06:15] <effer> lol
[06:15] <JoseStefan> sometimes ;)
[06:15] <ClayG> cool
[06:16] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> DanaG, hmm if I rmmod and then modprobe it works :-/
[06:16] <bruenig> marcagio, you installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly?
[06:16] <DanaG> Even without the option?
[06:16] <DanaG> Same for me.
[06:16] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> ya
[06:16] <puff> well, g'night all.
[06:16] <DanaG> But the position_fix fixed it.
[06:16] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> even without the option
[06:16] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to get the ATI driver to work, but it keeps saying something like: (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) ... can someone help me?
[06:16] <bruenig> marcagio, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:17] <marcagio> yes bruenig I installed all of this
[06:17] <caseyomah_> It's saying that I can't find packages that show up in Synaptic because I removed the cd from sources.list I want to do online-only installs/upgrades (problem found with java runtime)
[06:17] <cvt|expert> i clicked a malicious link and now konqueror freezes. is my problem unique?
[06:17] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> DanaG, the option works also though
[06:17] <bruenig> marcagio, should work then
[06:17] <bruenig> marcagio, you aren't using 64 bit are you?
[06:17] <DanaG> Try adding the option to the config file and see if it works at reboot.
[06:17] <marcagio> uh... yeah I have a 64bit computer but installed the I386 still...
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert, given your history in here.. yes. :)
[06:17] <kkaisare> Does anyone know where I can find the w32codecs package? I tried downloading it from the URL in the ubuntu docs, but it is not found there.
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  you just going out and looking for these links?
[06:17] <poningru> !w32codecs
[06:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <poningru> kkaisare: is that where you downloaded it from?
[06:18] <bruenig> kkaisare, google this filetype:deb w32codecs
[06:18] <kkaisare> poningru: I tried that. Like I said, it wasn't found.
[06:18] <smart61> Does anyone here have experience with an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad and getting Ubuntu to a) ignore the touchpad and b) understand the blue scroll button?
[06:18] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  no. it's the same link but i tested it in konqueror to see if it was specific to firefox
[06:19] <caseyomah_> "'Sun Java 5.0 Runtime' is not available in any software channel. The application might not support your system archetecture."
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  try opera yet? try Links? try Dillo...  :P
[06:19] <kkaisare> poningru:  http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:19] <marcagio> bruenig I do have an AMD64 processor but I installed the I386 version... could that be it?
[06:19] <bruenig> marcagio, no that is not a problem, that is my setup too
[06:19] <DanaG> Here's documentation:
[06:19] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  i thought firefox was impervious to infection
[06:19] <cvt|expert> *linux
[06:19] <ClayG> anyone know of a CLI web browser that has tabs?
[06:20] <ClayG> or a CLI aim/yahoo/msn client?
[06:20] <bruenig> kkaisare, looks like the first result works http://www.google.com/search?q=filetype%3Adeb+w32codecs&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=Swiftfox:en-US:unofficial
[06:20] <DanaG> ergh, too big, would flood -- gotta pastebin
[06:20] <DanaG> !pastebin
[06:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:20] <poningru> http://debian-multimedia.org.nyud.net:8080/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[06:20] <caseyomah_> kkaisare, i*86 is reccomended for AMD64 as there are issues with the 64 bit kernel.
[06:20] <poningru> kkaisare: ^^^
[06:20] <burnick> why does sometimes when i update something from ubuntu...something breaks...last time it was X..now sound...sheezz
[06:20] <marcagio> the worst part is that i'm a music freak :S
[06:20] <bruenig> poningru stole my method, theif
[06:20] <bruenig> thief*
[06:20] <marcagio> I feel like i'm naked without my music :(
[06:20] <Toma-> ClayG: centericq has msn/yahoo/icq
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  a silly javascript  poping up 1000000 + windows is not an 'infection
[06:21] <bruenig> I don't have any music but assuming I did, I could play it so that is god
[06:21] <bruenig> good*
[06:21] <poningru> bruenig: :P
[06:21] <caseyomah_> ClayG, Toma-, I prefer Gaim it does the major 4 plus other unknown messenger.
[06:21] <bruenig> that method will find anything. Need a package just filetype:deb package
[06:21] <nnonix> Anyone have new mail notification working with evolution? Mine won't seem to work regardless of what I do.
[06:21] <Toma-> caseyomah: oh, i didnt know Gaim came in CLI?
[06:22] <ClayG> Toma-: is it CLI?
[06:22] <effer> what is CLI?
[06:22] <caseyomah_> CLI?
[06:22] <Toma-> ClayG: certainly is. unlike gaim
[06:22] <ClayG> ok
[06:22] <marcagio> I wonder if I could find something to convert my works in OGG
[06:22] <ClayG> you answered my next question, lol
[06:22] <ClayG> thanks
[06:22] <effer> really..what's CLI?
[06:22] <ClayG> lemme give it a sho
[06:22] <JoseStefan> !cli
[06:22] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:22] <Toma-> command line interface
[06:22] <ClayG> command line interpreter
[06:22] <Nallii> Could someone help me with a problem?
[06:22] <ClayG> er interface
[06:22] <ClayG> sorry
[06:22] <effer> ohhh
[06:22] <effer> durp
[06:22] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  one window multiplied to become many more than intended, it was out of control and it caused a crash and now it's negative effect is permanent.
[06:22] <caseyomah_> Okay, I don't think you can cli it...
[06:22] <ClayG> how about a tabbed cli browser?
[06:22] <cvt|expert> *its
[06:23] <ClayG> or is w3m tabbed?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  thats the window manager rembering the window positions..
[06:23] <Toma-> ClayG: links2 has a gui, but no tabs
[06:23] <smart61> Does anyone here have experience with an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad and getting Ubuntu to a) ignore the touchpad and b) understand the blue scroll button?
[06:23] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  that's on firefox.
[06:23] <DanaG> Ignore touchpad?
[06:23] <ClayG> Toma-: could you gimme the name of that again?
[06:23] <Toma-> ClayG: you might wanna look at 'screen'
[06:23] <Toma-> ClayG: links2 has a gui, but no tabs
[06:23] <ClayG> sorry I'm coming in through ssh and
[06:23] <ClayG> im using screen
[06:23] <ClayG> i see what you mewan
[06:23] <Toma-> oh :)
[06:23] <ClayG> i was considering that fix
[06:23] <Toma-> screen + multiple lynx sessions could work
[06:24] <DanaG> Add the line      Option "SHMConfig" "on" to the synaptic device in xorg.conf
[06:24] <ClayG> loading multiple instances of the browser then just c-a n;ing them
[06:24] <DanaG> then install gsynaptic
[06:24] <Nallii> My older ubuntu CD (shipped to me) was acting up, so I burnt a new version CD. When I hit enter on "Start or Install Ubuntu" and it sits there and does nothing. Reburn?
[06:24] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  konqueror is freezing now.
[06:24] <AbortD> can anyone help me with partition magic?
[06:24] <kkaisare> poningru: Thank you. It seems to be working.
[06:24] <Toma-> centericq is the messenger
[06:24] <ClayG> Toma-: what is that IM client called again?
[06:24] <ClayG> gottcha
[06:24] <poningru> kkaisare: sweet
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  wow. :)
[06:24] <cvt|expert> that's an infection
[06:24] <Nallii> I tried Check CD for defects and it still was hanging up.
[06:24] <ClayG> Toma-: you mind spoon feeding me the keystroke to detach out of screen and reattach later?"
[06:25] <Toma-> no idea. dont use screen, ive got an ample PC
[06:25] <Toma-> :)
[06:25] <kkaisare> poningru: 13 MB download, just so I can watch a rmvb movie. :)
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,   you are the one purposly trying to  breaki things.. that makes you the infection. :P
[06:25] <effer> lol
[06:25] <Nallii> My older ubuntu CD (shipped to me) was acting up, so I burnt a new version CD. When I hit enter on "Start or Install Ubuntu" and it sits there and does nothing. Reburn?
[06:25] <ClayG> im liking this centericqw already without setting it up
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,  post the url/info the the kde/konqueror developers/bug reports site then.
[06:26] <effer> Nallii, did you burn a copy of the messed up cd, or did you download an ISO?
[06:26] <ClayG> just the initial screen looks rather thorough
[06:26] <Nallii> I downloaded an ISO
[06:26] <JoseStefan> cvt|expert, how can the effect be permanant?
[06:26] <caseyomah_> Nallii, Try the check for defeccts option.
[06:26] <Nallii> Hangs up
[06:26] <effer> Nallii, reburn
[06:26] <burnick> why does sometimes when i update something from ubuntu...something breaks...last time it was X..now sound...
[06:26] <cvt|expert> Dr_Willis,  then it must not be windows's fault but the users
[06:26] <Nallii> Go figure :P
[06:27] <JoseStefan> cvt|expert, you might have to remove (or rename) that browsers settings, on your home folder
[06:27] <effer> nallii, and md5 checksum
[06:27] <Nallii> Ok, thanks.
[06:27] <zoidberg> i have a school network folder that i can access in windows by typing an https address and my username and password....can i acces that here
[06:27] <effer> here?
[06:27] <zoidberg> well i meant in ubuntu
[06:27] <zoidberg> lol
[06:28] <DanaG> "Connect to network server" in gnome.
[06:28] <THX-1138> "d5sum" - linux     "filealyzer" & "d5summer" windows can help
[06:28] <THX-1138> md5sum
[06:28] <DanaG> er, "Connect to Server"
[06:28] <effer> :P
[06:28] <zoidberg> but where do i add the network place the address and all that stuff?
[06:29] <DanaG> First select what type it is.
[06:29] <lankster> so i downloaded vmware server from the vmware website and i tried to run 'sudo ./vmware-install.pl' but I get an error saying "A previous install of VMware software has been detected, Failure" but i totally uninstalled it from synaptic package manager, what should i do?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> cvt|expert,   i think this has now crossed over into the 'beating a dead horse' catagory/
[06:30] <cvt|expert> [ad hominem category] 
[06:30] <carthik> There's always #ubuntu-offtopic for dead horses and ad hominems
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> carthik,  and /ignore :P
[06:32] <THX-1138>  Why would XGL/Compiziz would work for 2 mins then lock up the machine?
[06:32] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to get the ATI driver to work, but it keeps saying something like: (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) ... can someone help me?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> lankster,  theres a --purge option to apt-get remove that may of been needed
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> inc|freaky,  did you use the ones from the repos? or downloaded from atis site?
[06:33] <inc|freaky> i tried both
[06:33] <inc|freaky> same error
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> what kernel are you using?
[06:33] <FluxD> hmm I was tying to install a more recent version of xchaat and it said dependency is not sasfiable: xch-common what does that mean?
[06:33] <inc|freaky> im using edgy
[06:33] <caseyomah_> I installed clvm and can't get it to finish installing or remove.
[06:34] <chet> i have a file under session/startup, i can get into terminal, does anyone know where the file is located that contains these custo startup files?
[06:34] <inc|freaky> im using kernel: 2.6.17-7-generic
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> inc|freaky,  so you made your own kernel eh?
[06:34] <lankster> Dr_Willis so what would be the whole command to get rid of vmware player?
[06:34] <inc|freaky> Dr_Willis: no im using kubuntu edgy
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> lankster,  apt-get remove --purge whatever (i think)
[06:34] <Frey> ahoi ahoi newb question here.... following a guide and replaced the i386 kernel with amd64-k8 kernel was wondering if anyone could let me know what to change i386 in the following command to... "cp /lib/grub/i386-pc/stage1 /boot/grub/" just to "amd64-pc"? or? thank you for the help
[06:34] <THX-1138> "which <executable-binary-filename>"    ???
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> inc|freaky,   sounds like the modules/kernel/drivers are not ageeing on the same versions. That oftenhappend with using the 'bleeding edge stuff'
[06:35] <Megaqwerty> sometimes when I use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and try to log back into gnome, it doesn't log in, any ideas? (I am able to get past the login screen but not the startup screen)
[06:35] <lankster> sweet thanks Dr_Willis
[06:35] <DanaG> Hmm, GigaHurtz didn't come back ...
[06:35] <inc|freaky> Dr_Willis: ok, and is there any way to fix it?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> !edgy
[06:35] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:35] <inc|freaky> oh ok ^^
[06:35] <inc|freaky> thx
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> since i dont use edgy it may get fixed tomorrow... or next month. :)
[06:35] <DanaG> inc|freaky: Sounds like you have to compile fglrx-kernel-source
[06:36] <inc|freaky> it makes no diff. i tried both versions
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> or you just missed some littel detail. :P or theres some bugs
[06:37] <total_meltdown> Hey, does anyone know how to set up port forwarding for a DHCP server?
[06:37] <inc|freaky> i rebootet with both drivers and it just doenst work im currently using vesa as a temp. solution
[06:37] <total_meltdown> I'm trying to build a router
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> 'just doenst work'  --> heh - it would help is ya managed to get some error messges or other  logs.detilas as to what is not working. :)
[06:38] <THX-1138> !squid
[06:38] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.12-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2108 kB
[06:38] <DanaG> Edgy was broken for me -- Xgl crashed upon switching to text-mode console.
[06:38] <DanaG> Plus, usplash slaughtered my console.
[06:38] <total_meltdown> THX-1138: was that for me?
[06:38] <DanaG> s/slaughtered/corrupted
[06:39] <caseyomah_> I had multiverse off. Silly me.
[06:39] <zoidberg> guys im trying to connect to a school network....i type in the address ttps://baldwin.wabash.edu/oneNet/NetStorage....and then i select the HTPS server...i type in my username but there is no place to type in the password?
[06:39] <DanaG> Once you connect it will ask.
[06:39] <DanaG> make sure not to forget the h on https
[06:39] <THX-1138> total_meltdown. - nah just a memory refresher fgor me as it turns out. - grin
[06:39] <DanaG> (copy-paste error?)
[06:39] <zoidberg> i spelled it right when i typed it
[06:39] <total_meltdown> oh
[06:39] <zoidberg> the folder shows up on desktop but it says cannot conenct
[06:39] <zoidberg> ?
[06:39] <DanaG> My school gives me an SSH place.
[06:40] <Megaqwerty> sometimes when I use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and try to log back into gnome, it doesn't log in, any ideas? (I am able to get past the login screen but not the startup screen)
[06:40] <DanaG> In my case, I included folder and username (case-sensitive in mine), and port
[06:40] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out?
[06:40] <total_meltdown> zoidberg: try not putting in the https:// - if you select HTTPS as the option in configuring the folder, you shouldn't need it. For my FTP server, I just have "notsoandom.com" in the server box of the folder config
[06:41] <THX-1138> total_meltdown = netfilter iptables and firestarter may turn up something.
[06:41] <THX-1138> sounds like bridging
[06:41] <Megaqwerty> anyone?
[06:42] <DanaG> total_meltdown: Also try smoothwall or monowall -- no personal experience, but I hear they're both good.
[06:42] <total_meltdown> THX-1138: It is. I'm trying to build a reverse wireless router so-to-speak
[06:42] <DanaG> Right?
[06:42] <DanaG> Wireless ISP, wired local?
[06:42] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know how to set up my laptop as an ad-hoc network?
[06:42] <total_meltdown> DanaG: Modem-hog mother + Wireless router + 10 computers in my room = I need my own goddamn subnet...
[06:42] <DanaG> Hog?
[06:43] <DanaG> In my house, I'm the hog.
[06:43] <DanaG> Viva la bittorrent
[06:43] <total_meltdown> DanaG: I would try smoothwall or something, but the router is my laptop, and I already have a fully configured Kubuntu installation I'm using
[06:43] <DanaG> aah.
[06:43] <Megaqwerty> DanaG: lol
[06:43] <DanaG> (stupid USA ISPs -- Charter)
[06:43] <total_meltdown> DanaG: Yeah, but the modem needs to be in the center of the house so it can reach both sides. I'm one side, my brother is the other.
[06:43] <DanaG> 3 megabits?  That's pathetic!  256 kilobits up?  That's worse?
[06:43] <total_meltdown> I'm still planning my takeover... >_>
[06:44] <total_meltdown> OMG I vote the USA chokes on a terd
[06:44] <DanaG> You could get a wrt54g(L) wireless router and put dd-wrt or hyperwrt on it
[06:44] <total_meltdown> and that's saying something - I'm born and raised in Maine
[06:44] <DanaG> CA for me.
[06:44] <Megaqwerty> Anyone know about setting up an ad-hoc network with a laptop?
[06:44] <Megaqwerty> !ad-hoc
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ad-hoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <zoidberg> okay guys so i figured out that you dont have to type in https:// when you select that kind of conenction
[06:45] <DanaG> Good night.
[06:45] <total_meltdown> DanaG: cout << total_meltdown->funds() << endl;
[06:45] <total_meltdown> 0
[06:45] <zoidberg> so now i'm being asked for a password...and i'm putting my password in which I KNOW is rightbut its now working it keeps on asking for the apssword again?
[06:45] <THX-1138> korea has the fastest internet you got to love having fiber available to your home.
[06:45] <total_meltdown> zoidberg: Sorry... but... Caps-lock?
[06:45] <zoidberg> lol
[06:45] <zoidberg> no CAPS lock
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone backported the Thunderbird-capable new Beagle version for Dapper?
[06:46] <total_meltdown> good point
[06:46] <total_meltdown> Yeah, I have a measly 45 Kb/s up and 500 Kb/s down
[06:46] <total_meltdown> it sucks
[06:46] <clawrence> OK, i got a problem.  Using livecd to make sure i can get a new wireless card (netgear) to work, as i couldn't get my broadcom to work with fecutter or ndiswrapper.  everything seems cool, it recognized, i put in wep key and i can access the wireless router/modem fine.  internet is another story.  can't get yahoo, google, or msn to open, but ubuntu.com is cool.  uri.edu, loads fine, but no ubuntuforums.org.  irc, obviously fine.  what gives
[06:46] <total_meltdown> plus, my Netgear router is about as reliable as something that's not really that reliable at all
[06:46] <zoidberg> i have accesssed this network folder in XP just fine using the same password...i'm wondering that perhaps the school netowrk doesnt allow LINUX acces...?
[06:47] <Megaqwerty> zoidberg: does your school have some kind of framework? (Like Citrix)
[06:47] <zoidberg> dunno?
[06:47] <total_meltdown> clawrence: Random error syndrome. Discouraging for many, often leads to suicide. My suggestion: I have no fscking clue
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> can you connect from the same laptop or a diff one with xp?
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> (i.e. dual-boot)
[06:48] <tamacracker> Hey guys?....
[06:48] <total_meltdown> clawrence: can you ping Google? That's what I always use for my "Is my internet working?" benchmark
[06:48] <total_meltdown> tamacracker: yo dood
[06:49] <bosco> hehe same here google.com ping it the best way
[06:49] <tamacracker> My Serpentine Audio CD Recorder wont record...
[06:49] <tamacracker> sups Total_meltdown!
[06:49] <clawrence> yeah, google.com pings fine
[06:49] <total_meltdown> hmmm
[06:49] <zoidberg> Megaqwerty: i can conenct to the same network folder on this machine i'm using right on XP/...i have dual boot on this machine
[06:49] <total_meltdown> could just be Netgear crappiness?
[06:49] <bosco> woerd
[06:49] <clawrence> and now it loads
[06:49] <bosco> wierd
[06:49] <bosco> lol
[06:50] <tamacracker> I'm gettin an error to make sure I have GStreamer plug in to decode MP3
[06:50] <total_meltdown> clawrence: /me votes Netgear crappiness
[06:50] <clawrence> yeah?!?!?  still confused.
[06:51] <manofwar> hello, does anyone know if the libcube.so for ubuntu is compiled with a static filename entry for the cube and also no name for the skydome itself? changing the filename with csm does nothing, however replacing the actualy cubecaps.png lets you replace the image.
[06:51] <zoidberg> guys is there a chanbnel to ask UBUNTU MEDIA questions?
[06:51] <clawrence> does anyone have a preference for a pcmcia slot wireless card that works reliably?
[06:51] <Megaqwerty> zoidberg: yeah, I have no idea why you can't connect. it might have something to do with some kind of permissions built into windows. My school still uses a Citrix framework and that has always been my problem
[06:51] <tamacracker> lynksis or whatever
[06:51] <Megaqwerty> *omit the still
[06:52] <bosco> i have a netgear router and i have no problem connecting to the wireless but when i try and connecct to my dads windows box it borks on me
[06:52] <Megaqwerty> bosco: do you have smb configured? (don't remember how I did that, but maybe someone else does)
[06:53] <tamacracker> how do i get my GStreamer to work with my Serpentine CD Recorder?
[06:54] <caseyomah_> "E: clvm: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" Help?
[06:54] <Megaqwerty> Anyone know about setting up an ad-hoc network with a laptop?
[06:54] <bosco> Megaqwerty, shouldnt i be able to access my lapbop from his windows box without samba conifigured
[06:54] <RobNyc|Ubuntu> Anyone here has a Logitech mx3100 or so mouse? I want to know how do you guys charge your rechargeable mouse .. on button or off button ?
[06:54] <total_meltdown> Megaquerty: yeah - it's pretty simple
[06:55] <total_meltdown> Megaquerty: sudo iwconfig [wireless interface]  essid [SSID you want]  mode ad-hoc
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> bosco: oh yours? I don't know, I thought you were connecting out
 well i am doing both
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> thanks total_meltdown!
[06:55] <bosco> Megaqwerty well i am doing both
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> ok
[06:55] <total_meltdown> Megaquerty: then give yourself an IP address, and do it on all the machines
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> um....
[06:55] <total_meltdown> should work for you
[06:55] <bosco> ok
[06:55] <total_meltdown> sudo ifconfig [wireless interface]  IP address
[06:55] <bosco> yes
[06:56] <total_meltdown> so like sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.1
[06:56] <Megaqwerty> total_meltdown: does it matter that the other one is a mac laptop (my friends)
[06:56] <total_meltdown> Megaqwerty: Not sure. It might automagically recognize your ad-hoc connection
[06:56] <Megaqwerty> alright, thanks
[06:57] <Megaqwerty> I'm gonna copy down all that stuff...
[06:57] <total_meltdown> good call
[06:57] <clawrence> well thank you guys for the help, traceroute ping and what is loading still don't make sense, but it is better than having no internet and trying to get this stuff to work.  i'm sure i'll be back on after a fresh install looking for more help.
[06:57] <total_meltdown> Does anyone know about NAT at all...? I'm trying to build a router. DNS resolution is working, DHCP is working, but the actual packet forwarding is not. It's upsetting me...
[06:58] <Megaqwerty> Thanks guys! and good luck to bosco
[07:01] <iceman24k> Boy how hard is the xgl part to install ?
[07:01] <ryancr> is there a command that i can run to find out what a video is encoded in?
[07:02] <Lam_> is it better to run windows programs off of VMware or Wine?
[07:03] <manofwar> paralells i would recommend
[07:03] <ryancr> i usually try wine first..and if it doesnt work then i run it in vmware
[07:04] <Lam_> any advantages either way?
[07:04] <ryancr> vmware is a bigger hassle to setup if you dont have it, plus it using more resources cuz it has to run a full windows os
[07:05] <Lam_> ok thanks for the advice
[07:05] <ryancr> no prob
[07:05] <sizzam> i have a backed up dvd image mounted, i'm trying to play it with xine.   whats the best way to get it to play the whole 'disc' from the mounted directory?
[07:05] <ryancr> if your going to install wine, makre sure you get it from the winehq repos
[07:05] <barata> hi, what's the difference between CD & DVD install?
[07:06] <Lam_> ok. i'll make note of that
[07:06] <barata> for 606
[07:07] <ryancr> barata, if i had to guess the dvd would just contain more files, so if you want to install something you wouldnt have to pull it off the net
[07:07] <varsendaggr> hey once i draw a circle or whatever in inkscape with the caligraphy pen?
[07:07] <varsendaggr> how do i fill it with fill color?
[07:08] <warbuscommando> is the cryptographic api in the stock ubuntu kernel?
[07:09] <ryancr> varsendaggr: to the left of the font icon (the big T) is the fill/stroke icon that you can use to adjust all the fill and stroke setings
[07:09] <burnick> hi, if ur sound dont work  but was working b4...in gnome...just check your /etc/group file .. find the line "audio" addu ur user to that line...and restart gnome
[07:09] <barata> ryancr: I get a lot of problem with the automatic update ... if I reinstall, is it possible to avoid the updates as I install additional apps?
[07:10] <total_meltdown> Can anyone help me with this? I think I'm finding some issues, but I'm not sure
[07:10] <barata> anybody install Ubuntu from SOURCE?
[07:10] <barata> like gentoo
[07:10] <iceman24k> gentoo yeck :(
[07:10] <k0rd> question: so im deciding to install ubuntu, which version is reccomended
[07:10] <barata> I think debian has a special repositories like that, does Ubuntu also has that?
[07:11] <zoidberg> guys what is the channel for discussuing ubuntu media issues
[07:11] <iceman24k> k0rd dapper
[07:11] <iceman24k> !codecs
[07:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:11] <ryancr> if you install additional repos, i usually uncheck them and do a apt-get update before i do a apt-get upgrade, if there is something that i don't want updated
[07:12] <k0rd> i mean like for the intel x86
[07:12] <Lam_> what program can i use as the equivalent of a virtual cd/dvd drive to mount isos on?
[07:12] <ryancr> anyone know a command i can use to get the codec of a video file
[07:12] <k0rd> i also need a way to partition, will ubuntu do this for me?
[07:12] <ryancr> using mencoder or something
[07:12] <k0rd> to dual-boot xp and *nix
 anyone know a command i can use to get the codec of a video file --> just use vlc for all your need
[07:13] <PathagenX> k0rd, Easily so.
[07:13] <ryancr> i dont want to watch the vid i want to know what it is encoded with..will vlc tell me that?
[07:13] <mayeco> sure
[07:13] <mayeco> vlc can do that
[07:13] <weex> does anyone know why i can't mount my truecrypt volume with write privileges?
 i dont want to watch the vid i want to know what it is encoded with..will vlc tell me that? --> I dont think I understand this ... do you mean you can just click & play?
[07:13] <k0rd> ty PathagenX
[07:14] <k0rd> so im running xp, with an intel prcoessor, i should get the i386 version correct?
[07:14] <ryancr> no i mean i have an avi file and i want to know what it is encoded with... divx, xvid, etc
[07:14] <mayeco> vlc
[07:14] <simtower> ryancr, vlc will give you the info
[07:14] <ryancr> thanks
[07:14] <weex> i created the truecrypt volume in that other os and want to move it to my linux partition(dual boot), i can read it from the terminal using the root account but i'd like to be read/write from my user account
 no i mean i have an avi file and i want to know what it is encoded with... divx, xvid, etc --> all I know is I can play all my downloaded avi movies ... about checking the real encoder, I dont know
[07:15] <k0rd> speeds are godly on these .iso's
[07:15] <BlindSpot> hello
[07:16] <k0rd> the torrents
[07:16] <BlindSpot> Is vista rc1 worth trying?
[07:16] <mayeco> haaaaaahbaaaaaaaa
[07:16] <mayeco> vista :S
[07:16] <BlindSpot> ?
[07:17] <ryancr> Lam_: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 debian-sid.iso /home/yourname/somedir will mount the iso
[07:17] <k0rd> vista is :(
[07:17] <mayeco> yah
[07:17] <BlindSpot> it's crap?
[07:17] <mayeco> yeah
[07:17] <Madpilot> BlindSpot, um, this is #ubuntu, not #windows...
[07:17] <k0rd> mmhmm
[07:17] <iceman24k> how can i mount a SATA Windows xp drive ?
[07:17] <ryancr> oops thats if your iso is called debain-sid.iso
[07:17] <mayeco> ahahaha
[07:17] <mayeco> nice Madpilot
[07:17] <PathagenX> BlindSpot, No.
[07:18] <BlindSpot> No what?
[07:18] <ryancr> i tried one of the earlier vistas..its was off my machine in about 20mins
[07:18] <BlindSpot> ok
[07:18] <BlindSpot> i only have 50 gig of ram and i hear maybe it's not enough
[07:18] <iceman24k> ryanc why ?
[07:18] <tamacracker>  Has anyone been successful in burning MP3s onto CD format with Ubuntu?
[07:18] <PathagenX> BlindSpot, Vista rc1 and rc2 and likely rc3 (if there is one) are not worth the effort.
[07:18] <mayeco> i try longhorn months ago and is crap
[07:18] <Madpilot> BlindSpot, seriously, this is not the right channel for questions about Windows
[07:18] <k0rd> question, last time i tried installing ubuntu, the screen went black about 54% of installing the software
[07:18] <PathagenX> tama There is a thing in your multimedia meny
[07:18] <BlindSpot> i use XP and ubuntu
[07:18] <k0rd> maybe because i got the wrong version?
[07:19] <iceman24k> i did 64 bit windows, vista, all sucked
[07:19] <IronMask> vista's great, just disable the "aero" interface lol
[07:19] <PathagenX> Disk burning wizard or something
[07:19] <ryancr> iceman24k: why was it only on for 20mins?
[07:19] <tamacracker> meny?
[07:19] <iceman24k> ryanc yea ?
[07:19] <k0rd> ryancr, cause it's crap
[07:19] <k0rd> thats wh
[07:19] <hockyhair> hello
[07:19] <tamacracker> is a meny a folder?
[07:20] <hockyhair> how do i find out what battery number to use in conky for batter time rem disply, the default (BAT0) does not work
[07:20] <ryancr> iceman24k: dunno, i played with it for a bit, it seemed kinda buggy (granted it was an earlier version) but it annoyed me enough to remove it
[07:20] <iceman24k> whats the best media player ?
[07:20] <mayeco> amarok
[07:20] <hockyhair> mplayer works for me
[07:20] <ryancr> k0rd: haha
[07:20] <mayeco> and kaffeine
[07:20] <GTroy> iceman24k I like vlc
[07:20] <Madpilot> iceman24k, totem works for movies & such; I like Muine for album playing
[07:21] <mayeco> never use Muine
[07:21] <mayeco> can i use my ipod with Muine?
[07:21] <thephunkizm> will using konsole on gnome cause any problems?
[07:21] <EVRAMP> no
[07:21] <PathagenX> thepunkizm, Only to your dignity
[07:21] <Madpilot> mayeco, no idea, I don't own an iPod - check the Muine website, maybe
[07:21] <EVRAMP> thephunkizm
[07:21] <thephunkizm> lol
[07:22] <Madpilot> thephunkizm, no, but why not just use gnome-terminal?
[07:22] <PathagenX> i like rxvt
[07:22] <thephunkizm> konsole is purrdy
[07:22] <mayeco> thanks
[07:22] <thephunkizm> i like the green on black =)
[07:22] <mayeco> hahaha =) green on black
[07:23] <iceman24k> guess i need the codecs first ;)
[07:23] <Madpilot> thephunkizm, you can adjust text colours in gnome-term too, you know ;)
[07:23] <PathagenX> rxvt -bg black -fg limegreen
[07:23] <thephunkizm> oh, cool.
[07:23] <iceman24k> wish i could get gnome transparent :(
[07:23] <Neo8750> Terminal
[07:24] <Neo8750> its tabed
[07:24] <Neo8750> but i bet those all are too
[07:24] <Madpilot> iceman24k, gnome-term can even fake transparency ;)
[07:24] <PathagenX> eterm is best for transparency
[07:24] <mayeco> gnome is more stable that kde right?
[07:24] <iceman24k> Madpilot wheres gnome-term ?
[07:24] <thephunkizm> so how do ichange colors in terminal/
[07:25] <Neo8750> Madpilot: what you mean fake?
[07:25] <Madpilot> iceman24k, Applications->Accessories->Terminal is gnome-terminal
[07:25] <Neo8750> like just the background not icons?
[07:25] <iceman24k> cant config the rest for transparent
[07:26] <Neo8750> iceman24k: ??
[07:26] <Neo8750> Terminal will
[07:26] <iceman24k> Madpilot may have to install xgl
[07:26] <Madpilot> Neo8750, yeah, just the background/desktop wallpaper visible, not windows behind your terminal window
[07:27] <Neo8750> xfce4 does that
[07:27] <iceman24k> XGL work better ?
[07:27] <Neo8750> it allows you to make no active windows transparent
[07:27] <KyoLptp`> Where can I get the plugin for ytmnd.com?
[07:28] <ClayG> Nice
[07:28] <Neo8750> but its pretty cpu intence
[07:28] <ClayG> anyone know of a tabbed browser for the cli?
[07:28] <Neo8750> elinks
[07:29] <total_meltdown> XGL/Compiz is the greatest thing since the big bang. Just saying.
[07:30] <iceman24k> total_meltdown i downloaded kororaa to try it, not bad :)
[07:30] <total_meltdown> ^_^
[07:31] <hockyhair> whats the name of the kde or gnome battery app that sits on the taskbar
[07:31] <total_meltdown> hockyhair: for KDE it's KLaptop
[07:31] <DaveyJ> vmware player wont work in server mode will it?
[07:31] <Neo8750> i can't use compiz =(
[07:31] <total_meltdown> ?
[07:32] <thephunkizm> oooh, i take it back.  terminal is purrdy when transparent.  =)
[07:32] <riko> could someone suggest me a way to set a shutdown timer for my computer?
[07:32] <Neo8750> 372 frames in 5.2 seconds = 70.933 FPS
[07:32] <Neo8750> 342 frames in 5.2 seconds = 66.193 FPS
[07:33] <Neo8750> =(
[07:33] <total_meltdown> riko: man shutdown
[07:33] <riko> is there a gui for it tho? I kinda want something with a count down timer?
[07:33] <total_meltdown> riko: It's built into the kernel - you can schedule a shutdown in one hour
[07:33] <Neo8750> riko: cron
[07:33] <hockyhair> total_meltdown: hey how do i find out what battery number i am using, i want time rem to show up in my conky.. and it asks for BAT+# its not the default BAT0 it's not 1 or 2 either
[07:34] <riko> i've got tvtime and a tv tuner card in my pc so i kinda wanna make have like a sleep app type of thing like on a tv?
[07:34] <total_meltdown> hockeyhair: Oh geeze... I have no idea. It just magically worked for me
[07:34] <hockyhair> bat0
[07:34] <hockyhair> ?
[07:35] <hockyhair> what is the line you added to .conkyrc?
[07:35] <bobby123> anyone there?
[07:35] <bobby123> please help
[07:35] <total_meltdown> err... I didn't. it just worked for me
[07:35] <total_meltdown> bobby123: we will if we can. What's up?
[07:36] <bobby123> i have a step CPU with 2 steps, 1GHz and 1.8GHz
[07:36] <bobby123> when the cpu steps up or down the monitor flickers
[07:36] <bobby123> wht shud i do??
[07:36] <bobby123> using ubuntu dapper 6.06
[07:37] <total_meltdown> I'm thinking it has something to do with power draw. More power to switch modes = less to the video card
[07:37] <total_meltdown> Is it really bad, or just annoying?
[07:37] <Neo8750> turn off step
[07:37] <Paladine> !restricted
[07:37] <Neo8750> if you ask me
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Where does Rhythmbox store its data?  I initially ripped a CD, and I entered the the names manually in Sound Juicer.  Then I imported the files into Rhythmbox.  Later I found that I had entered some track names incorrectly, so I renamed the ogg files. Now I can't get Rhythmbox to see the new names.  I've tried deleting and re-importing the files in Rhythmbox, but it seems to remember the old incorrect track names.
[07:37] <bobby123> annoying a lot
[07:37] <bobby123> when ever i try to start applications
[07:37] <bobby123> the monitor flickers
[07:37] <zoidberg> hey does anyone know how to use ARDOUT-GTK and JACK???
[07:37] <simtower> your laptop is broken
[07:37] <total_meltdown> I don't know... I'd go with Neo's suggestion - turn off stepping if you can
[07:37] <total_meltdown> check hardware manuals
[07:38] <Neo8750> set it so on battery it runs in between max and lowest (can do this with differnt commands i can't remeber them though) and on ac max
[07:38] <bobby123> how shud i do that?
[07:38] <total_meltdown> hardware manuals
[07:38] <bobby123> its a desktop comp
[07:38] <bobby123> not laptop
[07:38] <zoidberg> does anyone know anything about JACK and ARDOUR?
[07:38] <Neo8750> turn off step
[07:38] <Neo8750> or find the command to set the lowest step to max
[07:38] <simtower> installed groach but it doesn't work
[07:38] <Neo8750> or check bios and see if has option
[07:38] <bobby123> hmm
[07:39] <bobby123> ok
[07:39] <bobby123> csn i do anythng with powernowd
[07:39] <bobby123> ?
[07:40] <Neo8750> csn? powernowd?
[07:40] <bobby123> powernowd is installed
[07:41] <manuelchat3000> Have someone of you tried to install internet explorer 6 for Linux (with Wine)?? I`d like to know how does it run on you pc...
[07:41] <Project2501a> manuelchat3000: why on earth would you want to install IE6 over wine?
[07:42] <Neo8750> why would you??
[07:42] <bobby123> it sucks on windows, it must suck more on linux
[07:42] <bobby123> wuth wine
[07:42] <bobby123> with*
[07:42] <Project2501a> hey. i just installed bugzilla, then i removed it, cuz i was (stupid enough|playing around with it), and now that i'm trying to re-install it, i get this error: "/etc/bugzilla/localconfig missing message when trying to configure package bugzilla"
[07:42] <manuelchat3000> Well, Linux doesn`t support flash 8 or above. So I need to visit an important web site that require that plugin (www.guitarplayertv.com)
[07:43] <Project2501a> manuelchat3000: sure it does.
[07:43] <Neo8750> manuelchat3000: have you tried the little cheap workaround?
[07:43] <Project2501a> go download the latest flash from adobe.
[07:43] <TiG4> ***-- How do I start a process as certain user at logon, lets say I have 2 users and i log in as one, but I want to run some processes under theother ---***
[07:43] <Project2501a> TiG4: man sudo
[07:43] <TiG4> Project2501a, I want it to start automatically
[07:43] <ClayG> greets, anyone know a good CLI email reader that doesn't require me to mess with setting up a mail agent?
[07:43] <KyoLptp`> So nobody knows how to get ytmnd.com working properly in dapper?
[07:43] <Project2501a> TiG4: man cron
[07:43] <ClayG> something like thunderbird for cli
[07:43] <ClayG> if there was one
[07:43] <wastrel> ClayG:  mutt
[07:44] <TiG4> Project2501a, can I cron as another user not logged in?
[07:44] <CharonX> Im having a heck of a time installing ubuntu.. for some reason it is locking up while installing the base system ? Could it be I have a bad image ?
[07:44] <ClayG> i can just install it and run it without setting upa  MTA?
[07:44] <Neo8750> manuelchat3000: http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/
[07:44] <wastrel> ClayG:  i use mutt to read my imap mail.  not 100% sure about pop...
[07:44] <GHOZt> hi gud day... i receive already the free cd
[07:44] <manuelchat3000> Today I went to the web page of above. And they provide just flash 7 for linux. Unfortunately some websites require flash 9
[07:44] <Project2501a> TiG4: read the man page, it'll tell you. elsewise sudo -user $youruserhere$ vi crontab
[07:44] <GHOZt> hi gud day... i receive already the free cd, the server files is also inside?
[07:44] <Neo8750> it may work
[07:44] <wastrel> ClayG:  but yes, it can talk to an external smtp
[07:45] <Project2501a> mutt supports ALL mail formats
[07:45] <ClayG> what about getting the mail
[07:45] <manuelchat3000> ok thank you Neo8750 and the others suporter too. I`ll check it out right now ;)
[07:45] <Project2501a> except outlook and escange.
[07:45] <ClayG> im gonna install it, im just bad about installing crap and if i dont use it, leaving it there and making my system cluttered
[07:45] <wastrel> ClayG:  oops sorry my bad, mutt can't talk to smtp (sorry long time since i set up the local mta)
[07:45] <Project2501a> 300K os space is not exactly clutter :P
[07:45] <ClayG> ouch
[07:46] <Neo8750> i brb
[07:46] <Project2501a> so, anybody down with bugzilla?
[07:46] <ClayG> damn, wish they would come out with thunderbird for cli
[07:46] <GHOZt> gud day can i ask questions here?
[07:46] <ClayG> lol
[07:46] <ClayG> !ask
[07:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:46] <Master_Medic> hey
[07:47] <Master_Medic> anyone know how to mount a sd flash stick?
[07:47] <Master_Medic> i found it with fdisk -l
[07:47] <Master_Medic> and i tried to do 'mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdrive' but its saying i need to specify the filesystem type
[07:47] <GHOZt> :) ok... the CD i received from ship.it is the desktop version or both desktop and server inside?
[07:47] <ClayG> both
[07:48] <GHOZt> ok thanks
[07:48] <ClayG> server is installed with using the server command, i didn't look for it in dapper but the breezy version it worked that way
[07:48] <ClayG> i loved that option, just use server, install openssh-server and do the rest remotley (though indapper i think the ssh server is preinstalled, not sure)
[07:49] <GHOZt> does squid runs perfectly on the dapper? any comments about running squid on dapper?
[07:50] <Gasten> Most stuff runs perfectly in ubuntu, in my view.
[07:51] <GTroy> gasten, yup me too
[07:51] <roler> there is this option in vim that highlights the matching parenthesis or {} ... does anyone know what it is so I can turn it off??
[07:51] <corevette> out of curiosity....which irc chat client is everyone using
[07:52] <Gasten> I'm on XChat.
[07:52] <GTroy> I should be using irissi
[07:52] <Gasten> But I know a lot of people is on irssi
[07:53] <Gasten> roler: I have no idea. Try looking at their homepage.
[07:53] <barata> what is xubuntu actually?
[07:53] <wastrel> roler type :set and see what options are turned on
[07:53] <barata> x-only ubuntu?
[07:53] <roler> wastrel; thanks!
[07:53] <Gasten> roler: and you could probably restart vim.
[07:53] <bimberi_> !xubuntu
[07:53] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <Vardyr> !ati
[07:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:54] <Gasten> roler: if that doesn't help, try reading the configuration files in /home/youruser/.vim
[07:54] <Vardyr> sweeeeet
[07:55] <roler> it's whatever the latest vim upgrade did - it was a long while ago though
[07:55] <roler> i think it's 'showmatch'
[07:56] <Gasten> then try :showmatch off
[07:56] <Gasten> or just :showmatch
[07:56] <Gasten> maybe :help showmatch
[07:56] <Neo8750> manuelchat3000: did that work for you?
[07:57] <thephunkizm> synaptic won't let me add the wine repository because it automatically looks for the wrong file on their server.  who do i get around this?
[07:57] <Gasten> roler: and check for a new version.
[07:58] <barata> xubuntu is best!
[07:58] <Flannel> thephunkizm: you mean universe?
[07:59] <roler> sigh...
[07:59] <bll3r> hey i have a quick question i just downloaded rar for linux but how do i extract the file
[07:59] <jason> shout'n out loud
[07:59] <bll3r> would it be "rar -xf <file name>"
[07:59] <thephunkizm> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:59] <total_meltdown> bll3r: apt-cache search rar
[08:00] <wastrel> Gasten, roler:  it's  :set noshowmatch  to turn it off
[08:00] <total_meltdown> ooh, I lied
[08:00] <bll3r> i already have rar though
[08:00] <total_meltdown> apt-cache search rar | grep archive
[08:00] <Flannel> thephunkizm: use the ubuntu repository, not a wine one.
[08:00] <total_meltdown> oh, I think once you have it, Ark supports it
[08:00] <roler> showmatch is not it. i'm still looking
[08:00] <thephunkizm> ok, i'll try that
[08:00] <Flannel> !tell thephunkizm about universe
[08:00] <jason> i really think dapper sucks , Why does everyone think it's so great..?
[08:00] <lillpelle> bll3r: I'm not sure if you have unrar, but if you do, just type unrar x -r file.rar <-- usually works
[08:01] <total_meltdown> ah
[08:01] <total_meltdown> bill3r: unrar
[08:01] <total_meltdown> yeah
[08:01] <Gasten> wastrel: Ah. thanks.
[08:01] <thephunkizm> Flannel: thanks
[08:01] <simtower> i think i am just going to install debian next time
[08:01] <iceman24k> !ntfs
[08:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:01] <bll3r> there we go
[08:02] <bll3r> thanks lillpelle!
[08:02] <simtower> ubuntu seems more finicky
[08:02] <simtower> less packages work
[08:02] <jason> alot less.!
[08:02] <bll3r> shut
[08:02] <bll3r> shit
[08:02] <bll3r> where did it back it up to?
[08:02] <jason> especially in dapper
[08:02] <Flannel> simtower: which packages aren't working for you?
[08:03] <simtower> i should be keeping a list of them
[08:03] <xuserx> Does dropping parking hard drives help?
[08:03] <simtower> groach didn't work tonight
[08:03] <simtower> yesterday i installed some game packages that didn't work
[08:03] <jason> yeah it does
[08:03] <manuelchat3000> Project2501a: unfortunately the tip Neo8750 told me doesn`t work. That`s because the site use flash 9 technology.....
[08:03] <xuserx> It would make me feel better =[
[08:04] <jason> no turn off the power as it's parking
[08:04] <Flannel> simtower: well, unless you file bug reports, we have no way of knowing if things don't work.  Especially for obscure packages
[08:04] <xuserx> Throw the laptop out the window.
[08:04] <jason> xuserx: press the restart button repeatedly as it's parking
[08:05] <wastrel> i filed a bug report
[08:05] <bll3r> how do i find .mp3 extensions with the find command?
[08:05] <kintaro0e> hi guys..i'm installing ubuntu server..is LVM reliable and stable?
[08:05] <xuserx> jason: man, I'm tempted.
[08:05] <wastrel> find /foo/ -name "*mp3"
[08:05] <manuelchat3000> Does anybody know how internet explorer for linux (with Wine) work on a pc? I have a pentium III and it works really bad.
[08:06] <wastrel> manuelchat3000:  it works really bad
[08:06] <jason> xuserx: i hear that..!     Thats how i felt when i had dapper , Now i've got breezy and haven't looked back ( err ahead )
[08:06] <kintaro0e> because i dont know if LVM is stable enough for our production server..any advice?
[08:07] <xuserx> jason: yeah I'm running 1.2 on slackware.
[08:07] <xuserx> jason: or something like that =D
[08:07] <Gasten> manuelchat3000: Just curious... Why would you wan't to use that?
[08:07] <manuelchat3000> Ok wastrel I`m not the only one...
[08:07] <jason> manuelchat3000: google  for  "ie4linux"  and install that..
[08:08] <manuelchat3000> Gasten: I need that because I need to run flash 9...
[08:08] <Gasten> manuelchat3000: Ah. FF doesn't got that?
[08:08] <xuserx> Anyone else think laptop battery life is sad.
[08:08] <Flannel> Gasten: linux doesn't have Flash 9 yet
[08:08] <Gasten> Ah.
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> It can also be useful to check how a web site that you created will behave with IE6.
[08:09] <xuserx> Myspace?!!?
[08:09] <jason> xuserx: yes , Thats why they cost so damn much to replace
[08:09] <Gasten> EnsignRedshirt: Well, then you use FF's IE-plug-in.
[08:09] <Flannel> Gasten: you need to have IE installed to use that...
[08:09] <Gasten> Ah.
[08:09] <manuelchat3000> Gasten: firefox for linux support up to flash 7. Anyway I got I tip that in same cases may work.(http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/)
[08:09] <foxiness> hi,"Another synaptic is running" how can i kill this proccess? "update-manager"
[08:09] <xuserx> jason: and here i thought it was cuz tey are greedy.
[08:09] <simtower> hu
[08:10] <total_meltdown> foxiness: ps afx | grep synaptic
[08:10] <jason> xuserx: ROFL :)
[08:10] <total_meltdown> foxiness: kill -9 [PID] 
[08:10] <roler> well, showmatch/noshowmatch seem to be what i don't want to be doing, but i can't turn it off. :noshowmatch in the editor does nothign .sigh
[08:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Gasten: No need to shut up--I didn't know FF had  an IE plug-in.
[08:11] <Flannel> It just displays an IE window, inside the wrapper of a FF tab, still needs IE to work
[08:11] <harisund> Any reason why Webmin is not supported on Ubuntu anymore? Because it uses a root account and Ubuntu doesn't like root? Or for some other more legitimate reason?
[08:11] <Gasten> Ah.
[08:11] <manuelchat3000> Jason, thanks. I`ll try IE4, may is lighter..
[08:11] <total_meltdown> Harisund: You're the only other person I've ever heard mention it
[08:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: So it wouldn't work in linux--unless it knows to run wine?
[08:11] <total_meltdown> Harisund: I'm trying to use it to set up a router - figting a lot
[08:11] <harisund> total_meltdown: ah .. so what is the equivalent then?
[08:11] <harisund> total_meltdown: yeah, I am setting up a router as well :D
[08:12] <foxiness> total_meltdown, Done :) , thanks ;)
[08:12] <Flannel> harisund: http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2006/01/msg00124.html
[08:12] <eetfunk> anyone else is  having problem when having mod_python and php enabled on Apache?  I get a blank page for my django app when php is loaded, even if I do 'php_admin_flag engine off' on my vhost.  How to fix this?
[08:12] <jason> manuelchat3000: it works ok-so-so , Try it out and see what you think
[08:12] <harisund> total_meltdown: I can mess around with iptables rules... but would prefer somthing graphical to start with
[08:12] <total_meltdown> harisund: Have you been able to get Forwarding working yet? I need a reverse-wireless router so I can have boxes other than my laptop online...
[08:12] <jason> harisund: google for "firestarter
[08:13] <roler> thanks anyways...
[08:13] <harisund> jason: yes, I have installed firestarter. It doesn't recognize my DHCP server.
[08:13] <Flannel> harisund: so, they were removed because they don't have a current maintainer, no technical reason
[08:13] <harisund> jason: I have trid all kinds of DHCP servers, dhcpd3-server, udhcpd, dnsmasq ... firestarter simply refuses to start any DHCP server whatsoever :(
[08:14] <total_meltdown> harrisund: Have you gotten packet forwarding working yet? Are the computers connected to your router online? I can't figure out how to configure the iptables...
[08:14] <harisund> Flannel: Glad to hear that ... so there's no problem with the package as such .. I was just worried using Webmin would break some other Debian/Ubuntu package and so it was removd ...
[08:14] <eetfunk> i kind of found the answer to my question, but since i installed php4 with apt-get,  don't know what to do: http://www.modpython.org/pipermail/mod_python/2005-March/017618.html
[08:14] <manuelchat3000> ok-so-so seems to be better than my  bad-painful-not usable- at all. I`ll check it out. Thanks
[08:14] <jason> harisund: and thats how you connect to the internet..???  what kind of a setup is that anyhow.?
[08:14] <mayor> Hello newbie here, needs help
[08:14] <Flannel> harisund: there are a bunch of howtos on how to install it as well, google, or search the forums, etc.  I don't believe there's a wiki page.
[08:15] <wastrel> just ask
[08:15] <mayor> is there some kind of image of the ubuntu live disk that is set up in an ubuntu installation?
[08:15] <total_meltdown> mayor: What be the question?
[08:15] <mayor> that I could just burn?
[08:15] <harisund> jason what? I didn't get you? Are you asking me what setup I have at home?
[08:15] <Flannel> mayor: what? oh, turning an installation into a liveCD? no
[08:15] <total_meltdown> mayor: The default installation CD will boot live, and then provides a graphical installation utility right through Gnome
[08:15] <mayor> I have the image of the cd in a computer that is screwed up.
[08:15] <total_meltdown> mayor: Or KDE, if you prefer betterness </bias>
[08:15] <jason> harisund: freesco..? , IP Cop..?  --- your setup "yes" what is it..?
[08:16] <mayor> I'm hoping that I can just burn one off the Linux box and use it
[08:16] <GaveUp> i've got postfix delivering mail to my homedir, but how can't i get it to be filtered by procmail?  just adding the .procmailrc does not seem to do the trick...
[08:16] <harisund> jason oh no no .. just a small home server.. nothing big like that.. I am just doing the whole thing for fun ..
[08:16] <mayor> I don't currently have a copy of the live cd that I can find
[08:16] <total_meltdown> mayor: Yeah - any 'ole Ubuntu disk will boot as a live OS
[08:17] <Flannel> mayor: nope.  You'll either have to physically move the HD, or download a new one
[08:17] <jason> harisund: so firestarter just dosen't see your "home" server..?
[08:17] <mayor> OK, well thanks
[08:17] <mayor> nice to have a real answer even if it's not the one I want
[08:17] <total_meltdown> :)
[08:17] <total_meltdown> That's what we're here for
[08:17] <mayor> still new, but beginning to learn to love ubuntu
[08:18] <mayor> thx again
[08:18] <mayor> and bye
[08:18] <harisund> jason: Here's what I have. eth0 connected to ISP (cable modem). DHCP. All good. eth1 is local, goes to a switch, from where my room mates and my other computers connect.
[08:18] <harisund> jason: I have a DHCP server running on eth1. I can tell Firestarter eth0 is my internet interface, and eth1 is my local interface, and do "internet connection sharing"
[08:19] <zoidberg> guys i have a question
[08:19] <jason> harisund: so your going through a router then..? , That sounds like the trouble..
[08:19] <zoidberg> if you have s-video out on your computer...how do you share desktop to the s-vdieo device?
[08:19] <harisund> jason: basicaly I am trying to NAT with my Linux box. Currently in place of my Linux box there is a router, because the Linux box is not yet working as a router. Once the linux box is configured, I will remove the router.
[08:20] <zoidberg> if you have s-video out on your computer...how do you share desktop to the s-vdieo device???
[08:20] <harisund> jason: at any given point of time I either have the router doing the NAT or the Linux box doing the NAT. Not both.
[08:20] <manuelchat3000> Neo8750: unfortunately your tip doesn`t work, but it was cool though
[08:20] <Neo8750> zoidberg: google s-video and linux
[08:20] <Neo8750> sorry to hear that manuelchat3000
[08:20] <jason> harisund: sounds like a plan...   What OS are you using for the new router..?
[08:21] <jordan54376890> I tried installing the SMP kernel through apt, restarted, uname -r still states 2.6.15-26-386
[08:21] <harisund> jason: well.. I am using Ubuntu since I hvae plenty of other servers running on it. (proftpd, apache2, samba, gnump3d to name a few)
[08:21] <harisund> oh and SSH of course.
[08:21] <Neo8750> jordan54376890: do a 'uname -a'
[08:21] <jordan54376890> \nick jordan
[08:21] <harisund> jordan54376890: wrong slash.
[08:21] <Flannel> jordan54376890: you're using dapper?
[08:22] <jason> harisund: well i don't ( or didn't ) think ubuntu could/can do that routing stuff , Maybe switch to something else...?
[08:22] <jordan54376890> oops :)
[08:22] <iceman24k> can anyone tell me how to get rid of the nasty brown Ubuntu icon in gnome menu bar /
[08:23] <harisund> jason: nah .. Ubuntu can do it .. iptables is running just fine. I can take the pain to configure NAT using iptables rules over the command line .. .. just thought having a GUI like Firestarter would be handy .. guess I can use the command line .
[08:23] <jordan54376890> $ uname -a
[08:23] <jordan54376890> Linux jordan-laptop 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:23] <jordan54376890> Flannel, yes
[08:23] <harisund> jason: UBuntu's kernel comes with iptables configured. So it's not a big deal.
[08:23] <thephunkizm> !easysource
[08:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:24] <Flannel> jordan54376890: dapper has all kernels as SMP
[08:24] <wastrel> iceman24k:  gnome icon theme can change that
[08:24] <jason> harisund: firestarter has a gui.. , You knew that right..?
[08:24] <Flannel> firestarter IS the gui
[08:24] <iceman24k> wastrel wheres that icon located ?
[08:24] <jordan54376890> Flannel, I didn't know that.
[08:24] <harisund> jason: firestarter is the GUI. Right. Just that it doesn't recognize that I have a working DHCP server installed.
[08:25] <jason> harisund: OH oK then, i dunno..?
[08:25] <harisund> jason: I guess I can just ignore that and go ahead and configure a firewall and NAT.. and just let the DHCP server work in the background :D
[08:25] <wastrel> iceman24k:  dunno offhand.
[08:25] <harisund> jason: thanks .. no problem.. I am not complaining or anything.. just wanted to know if anyone here has attempted to configure their Ubuntu for NAT...
[08:25] <jordan54376890> The processor load applet only shows one graph, shouldn't it show two?
[08:25] <Neo8750> jordan54376890: do a apt-cache smp
[08:26] <hockyhair> has anybody gotten the battery variable working in conky
[08:26] <jason> harisund: well it's not like you can get viruses huh.? or unwanted guests would be unlikely
[08:26] <jordan54376890> Neo8750, $ apt-cache smp
[08:26] <jordan54376890> E: Invalid operation smp
[08:26] <Neo8750> actually do this
[08:26] <foxiness> if i download this "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz" by hand,where should i put it ?
[08:27] <Neo8750> apt-cache search smp | grep 2.6
[08:27] <iceman24k> whats the file manager for gnome
[08:27] <Madpilot> iceman24k, Nautilus
[08:27] <Neo8750> nautalis?
[08:28] <jordan54376890> Neo8750, do you want me to pastebin that ?
[08:28] <Neo8750> sure
[08:28] <mariusz_k> hello all
[08:29] <iceman24k> where are the icons located ?
[08:29] <jordan54376890> foreward slash nick mynewname doesn't work, do I have it wrong?
[08:29] <Neo8750> depends
[08:29] <Neo8750> its /nick newnick
[08:30] <k0rd> question
[08:30] <jordan54376890> Neo8750, I did that, doesn't work for me.
[08:30] <total_meltdown> harrisund: Do the machines connected to your router have internet access? I havn't been able to set up the connections right yet
[08:30] <CromagDK> not if the nick is taken
[08:30] <CromagDK> try another
[08:30] <wastrel> the nickname "jordan" may be protected
[08:30] <k0rd> so I installed Ubuntu, and i'm on GAIM atm, anyways, i downloaded wine using the package manager, how do I run it?
[08:31] <raj>  i have a problem with otrs
[08:31] <Khamael> what package provides export?I get unknown command whenI try to "export"
[08:31] <raj> my mail r not coming to otrs
[08:31] <total_meltdown> harisund: Do the machines connected to your router have internet access? I havn't been able to set up the connections right yet
[08:31] <EnsignRedshirt> Khamael: Do you mean in a shell/terminal?
[08:32] <trogdoor> k0rd, are you trying to run a windows application? You should just be able to double click it.
[08:32] <iceman24k> that stupid default icon. where is it located ?
[08:32] <Khamael> yes
[08:32] <k0rd> how do i run wine
[08:32] <k0rd> after i download it using the packet manager
[08:32] <CromagDK> k0rd: or its wine .wine/path/to/windows/app
[08:32] <k0rd> ?
[08:32] <wastrel> Khamael:  export is a bash shell builtin - are you using csh or something?
[08:32] <CromagDK> in the console
[08:32] <EnsignRedshirt> I believe export is part of the shell--it is a shell command.
[08:32] <trogdoor> k0rd, type wine in the terminal.
[08:32] <Khamael> wastrel: I am using fish
[08:33] <Flannel> Khamael: then it appears fish doesn't have an export command
[08:33] <wastrel> Khamael:  you'll need to use a different syntax
[08:33] <wastrel> iirc in csh and derivatives it's  setenv
[08:33] <Khamael> or change back to bash ;-)
[08:33] <trogdoor> k0rd, type wine in the terminal, then a space and the path to the exe you are trying to run.
[08:35] <trogdoor> How can I test to be sure both cores are being used? I tried yes > /dev/null and it used 100% of my CPU, in OS x at least it is not multithreaded so it only maxes out one core.
[08:35] <manuelchat3000> Neo8750: is not so important, was just because I hate to run wondows just for that web site. I have another little problem...about printing. I have a Xubuntu 6.06 and I have installed acroreader. I was wondering why I cannot open a print manager on acroreader that allows me to choose several configurations and tricks for my printer ( # of copies of the document included). I can choose the number of pages in Abiword or op
[08:35] <manuelchat3000> en office, but not in acroreader. I know that I could write omething like lp -#number of pages, in the command field. But How can I explain to my aunt of 76 years old to do that?? I mean, is out of ther a graphical user friendly print manager for acroreader and others pdf readers???
[08:35] <bbrazil> trogdoor: do two of them
[08:36] <CromagDK> ty for spam! :/
[08:36] <iceman24k> anyone know where the default gnome ubuntu icon is in the file system
[08:36] <trogdoor> bbrazil, I don't think you understand...
[08:36] <Neo8750> i've not used acroreader
[08:36] <Madpilot> iceman24k, you mean the one in the top left corner?
[08:37] <iceman24k> yes
[08:37] <Neo8750> i use what ever xfce4 has as defualt
[08:37] <trogdoor> bbrazil, My CPU monitor only shows one graph, not two graphs ( one for each CPU ) and it says it is using 100% with only one instance of yes > /dev/null
[08:37] <wastrel> iceman24k:  here you go  http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gnome_Custom_Menu_Icon
[08:37] <iceman24k> Madpilot thanks
[08:37] <bbrazil> trogdoor: which CPU monitor, top?
[08:38] <Neo8750> document viewer?
[08:38] <tbaur> hey
[08:38] <Madpilot> !eyecandy
[08:38] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:38] <Madpilot> iceman24k, last URL in the line the bot just posted above ^^^
[08:38] <Neo8750> evince
[08:38] <trogdoor> bbrazil, the gnome panel applet whatever it is, I will try top now.
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> manuelchat3000: I'm not sure I followed all your comments, but you might take a look at gtklp.
[08:39] <Khamael> what provides libmss? my nwn won`t start without it
[08:39] <manuelchat3000> Ok EnsignRedshirt, I`ll give a look
[08:39] <iceman24k> Madpilot whats the system tools in ubuntu
[08:39] <kendals> Which JVM package do I install?
[08:39] <wastrel> manuelchat3000:  i have exactly the same problem -gnome printing dialogs are hopelessly simplistic, and have very poor functionality.
[08:40] <kendals> I am using Opera 9.01, and I did a java test that said java 1.5 is installed.
[08:40] <Madpilot> iceman24k, not sure what you mean by system tools
[08:40] <Neo8750> wastrel: try evince?
[08:40] <kendals> Yet, when I try to use a biology site that needs a java thing, it's not working, and Opera unticks my java option, despite starting with it ticked...
[08:40] <iceman24k> Madpilot what ever that url is talking about
[08:40] <trogdoor> bbrazil, top does not seem to have any obvious sign that I am using both cores, how can I check?
[08:40] <kendals> What is my java path?
[08:41] <Madpilot> iceman24k,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy you mean?
[08:41] <jmp07C0h> hi!
[08:41] <afflux> moin
[08:41] <Neo8750> trogdoor: do a cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:41] <whazilla> mornin
[08:41] <Madpilot> iceman24k, actually, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuickTips tip #2
[08:42] <whazilla> i was wondering why the network icon is gone from my ubuntu deskbar
[08:42] <whazilla> or how to reset the net ?
[08:42] <whazilla> currently i got no ip
[08:42] <whazilla> sorry i got a ip
[08:42] <whazilla> but am unable to connect
[08:43] <whazilla> to web or net
[08:43] <Madpilot> !enter
[08:43] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:43] <CromagDK> ehm ?
[08:43] <CromagDK> whazilla: you are on the net
[08:43] <CromagDK> fyi
[08:43] <trogdoor> Neo8750, should I pastebin that or is it OK to just paste it here?
[08:43] <whazilla> heh
[08:43] <EnsignRedshirt> CromagDK: He might have more than one computer.
[08:43] <whazilla> not on my ubuntu tho
[08:43] <Neo8750> pastebin
[08:44] <whazilla> what must i paste ?
[08:44] <whazilla> ifconfig ?
[08:44] <whazilla> i can't connect remember
[08:44] <CromagDK> didnt say anywhere :)
[08:44] <trogdoor> !pastebin ( I forgot the ubuntu IRC specific one )
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin ( I forgot the ubuntu IRC specific one ) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:45] <AndreasL> is there any way to let one user on a computer have another time/time zone then the other users?
[08:45] <trogdoor> !pastebin
[08:45] <holycow> lol
[08:45] <holycow> edgy INSISTS on removing xchat on a daily update
[08:45] <holycow> hillarious
[08:45] <Neo8750> holycow: and your complaing? =)
[08:46] <holycow> what kind of stupid question is that?
[08:46] <Madpilot> holycow, file a bug. Lots, in fact...
[08:46] <holycow> xchat roxors your boxors :)
[08:46] <kendals> nm guys- got it- java path was /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/lib/i386
[08:46] <Neo8750> pffft irssi > xchat hands down
[08:46] <AndreasL> xchat < irrsi
[08:46] <manuelchat3000> wastrel: thanks to EnsignRedshirt I solved the problem in few seconds. sudo apt-get install gtklp,and then just allow your pdf viewer to use it. Is amazing...
[08:46] <kendals> Neo8750 - Opera 9 > irrsi :)
[08:46] <holycow> Madpilot, indeed :) ... although Neo8750 's joke is kinda funny :)
[08:46] <Hentai_jeff> xhat>all
[08:47] <AndreasL> irssi < Opera 9
[08:47] <Madpilot> holycow, yes, claiming irrsi is better than xchat is amusing ;)
[08:47] <kendals> thanks andrea :P
[08:47] <Neo8750> ha!
[08:47] <holycow> :) hehe
[08:47] <kendals> irrsi is so ugly!
[08:47] <kendals> *shudders*
[08:47] <wastrel> manuelchat3000:  thanks for the tip
[08:47] <manuelchat3000> Thanks EnsignRedshirt, that was really good shot
[08:47] <Neo8750> its console how can you say console is ugly
[08:47] <Neo8750> console/terminal being interchangable atm
[08:47] <EnsignRedshirt> manuelchat3000: No problem.
[08:47] <kendals> i hate console?
[08:47] <kendals> ;)
[08:48] <trogdoor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23425
[08:48] <kendals> either way, Opera 9's built-in IRC is so handy, and so easy.
[08:48] <manuelchat3000> you welcome wastrel
[08:48] <Hentai_jeff> console is your maker
[08:48] <kendals> and i get pretty smilie faces- what more could i want?;)
[08:48] <iceman24k> Madpilot dont see a list of where the icon is ?
[08:48] <Neo8750> i never knew opera had irc in it
[08:48] <zoidberg> hey guys how do you install .TGZ files?
[08:48] <wastrel> omg gtklp is the best thing ever
[08:48] <kendals> yeah, opera 9 has it :)
[08:48] <Hentai_jeff> google it
[08:48] <kendals> neo8570: i'll print screen for ya
[08:48] <Madpilot> iceman24k, I gave you the URL - it's Tip #2 on that page
[08:48] <wastrel> !rtfm
[08:48] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:48] <holycow> i used to not like xchat until this new version got that hierarchical view
[08:48] <Neo8750> zoidberg: tar zxf file
[08:49] <holycow> now i really like it
[08:49] <whazilla> how do i force eth0 for network connections ?
[08:49] <whazilla> it's got an ip
[08:49] <whazilla> i just ain't able to connect to anything
[08:49] <iceman24k> Madpilot no that chages the theme, i want just the icon alone
[08:49] <holycow> would like to have multiple scrolling windows nicely lined up tho like in mirc, but i guess i should learn python and write an extension
[08:49] <wastrel> holycow:  what's hierarchical view?
[08:49] <Madpilot> Hentai_jeff, if you're not going to be helpful, please don't spam the channel with "just google it" please...
[08:49] <whazilla> how do i force eth0 for network connections ?
[08:49] <holycow> view / layout / tree
[08:49] <whazilla> it's got an ip
[08:49] <holycow> try it
[08:49] <trogdoor> Neo8750, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23425
[08:50] <Neo8750> i'm lookin
[08:50] <Hentai_jeff> mad:actully I was making a small play at his name
[08:50] <trogdoor> Sorry.
[08:50] <Madpilot> iceman24k, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuickTips - #2 - does not touch the theme
[08:50] <Neo8750> looks like only one core
[08:50] <wastrel> whazilla:  route add default gw <ip address>  where ip address is the default gateway of the network that eth0 is on
[08:50] <trogdoor> Neo8750, I knew it :)
[08:50] <kendals> hehe
[08:50] <Hentai_jeff> espicialy cause futuramma is actully on right now
[08:51] <kendals> neo8750: http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2044/screenshotta7.png
[08:51] <Hentai_jeff> in all reality zoidburg what are you trying to install?
[08:51] <trogdoor> Neo8750, By any chance do you know how to get both cores working?
[08:51] <kendals> http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2044/screenshotta7.png - anyone know how I can make my GAIM icon in the panel transparent like the others?
[08:52] <tchung> hi
[08:52] <tchung> I am just wondering what this command does
[08:53] <kendals> which
[08:53] <tchung> gzip -d < pl-<version>.tar.gz | tar xvfB -
[08:53] <tchung> I can't find the pl directory
[08:53] <whazilla> what's the command to force eth0
[08:53] <whazilla> as primary nec
[08:53] <wastrel> whazilla:  route add default gw <ip address>   where ip address is the default gateway of the network that eth0 is on
[08:53] <orphean> tchung: that unzips pl-<version>.tar.gz then pipes it into tar which untars it
[08:54] <tchung> Is there any way to find where the directory is located now?
[08:54] <orphean> should be your CWD
[08:54] <tchung> CWD = ... sorry
[08:54] <tchung> I am a newbie
[08:54] <orphean> current working directory
[08:54] <holycow> tchung, sure use locate filename
[08:54] <trogdoor> tchung, current working directory...
[08:54] <orphean> the folder you're in
[08:54] <iceman24k> crap cant find that icon in the directory ?
[08:54] <dgibbons> Any idea why my log files are full of  localhost -- MARK --    ?
[08:55] <holycow> you might want to  update your db before you do that with sudo updatedb ... then do locate filename
[08:55] <trogdoor> tchung, whatever folder you are currently in
[08:55] <tchung> ok... I will try
[08:55] <weex> holycow: that locate is just what i've wanted to know for years
[08:55] <Madpilot> dgibbons, I'm not sure, but aren't those just timestamps?
[08:55] <EnsignRedshirt> tchung: Did the command work?  If so, you should have see a bunch a file names printed when the 'tar xvfB -' command ran.
[08:55] <holycow> 'welcome
[08:55] <EnsignRedshirt> *seen
[08:55] <PhilH> is there a reason to use that piped command instead of tar -xvzf pl-<version>.tar.gz ?
[08:55] <dgibbons> Madpilot: It's the only thing on the line, a timestamp and then -- MARK --
[08:56] <dgibbons> Just seems unsuaul.. never seen that in a log file
[08:56] <EnsignRedshirt> s/a file/of file/
[08:56] <tchung> I am just following instruction from a web page
[08:56] <wastrel> dgibbons:  it's a syslog timestamp thingy
[08:56] <PhilH> which one, just out of interest
[08:56] <orphean> tchung: try tar xvfz <file>
[08:56] <tchung> http://www.swi-prolog.org/installunix.html
[08:56] <EnsignRedshirt> tchung: Did you replace <version> with the actual version?
[08:56] <M-> dgibbons, -- MARK -- is a debian thing
[08:56] <Madpilot> dgibbons, I remember reading that they're just "yes, I'm alive at $time and there's nothing much happening otherwise" syslog stamps
[08:56] <M-> just ignore it :)
[08:57] <kendals> http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4091/screenshotul3.png - how do I make my GAIM icon transparent like the others in the top right panel area...?
[08:57] <dgibbons> Ah, that would explain my lack of familiarity with it.. Okie
[08:57] <EnsignRedshirt> tchung: E.g. pl-1.0.2.tar.gz, or something like that...
[08:57] <zoidberg> guys i just downloaded a .TGZ file
[08:57] <iceman24k> ho do you serch for a file ?
[08:58] <holycow> zoidberg, congratulations :)
[08:58] <tchung> I did, EnsignRedshirt
[08:58] <tchung> thx
[08:58] <PhilH> tar -xvzf filename.tgz
[08:58] <holycow> iceman24k, places / search
[08:58] <zoidberg> i i tarred it and now i have two folders...usr and install...how do i actually install it now?
[08:58] <swicken> hey there
[08:58] <krage> is there a way to let one user have another time zone then the rest of the users?
[08:58] <swicken> I'm having a problem, and I cannot find any information on the forums about it
[08:58] <holycow> zoidberg, you really shouldn't bypass the packaging system
[08:58] <dgibbons> Yeah, thats an enviroment variable they can set
[08:58] <holycow> zoidberg, it is strongly recommended that you only download .deb files built for ubuntu
[08:58] <PhilH> zoidberg, what's it supposed to contain?
[08:58] <swicken> Anyone here might be able to give me a hand?
[08:59] <zoidberg> a game
[08:59] <holycow> swicken, just ask
[08:59] <swicken> okies
[08:59] <PhilH> which one?
[08:59] <swicken> Well
[08:59] <zoidberg> how do i install it now
[08:59] <swicken> I downloaded the ubuntu image
[08:59] <swicken> put it on CD
[08:59] <zoidberg> foobilliard
[08:59] <swicken> and it runs fine on startup
[08:59] <tchung> how to extract a tar file? tar -x ?
[08:59] <swicken> however when I go to install ubuntu
[08:59] <holycow> zoidberg, i think thats in the repos
[08:59] <zoidberg> really
[08:59] <Madpilot> zoidberg, I'm pretty sure foobilliard is in repos
[08:59] <swicken> it loads ubuntu then goes to a blank screen
[08:59] <swicken> monitor turns off
[08:59] <holycow> zoidberg, there are at least TWO really nice 3d billiard games in the repos
[08:59] <Madpilot> !info foobilliard
[08:59] <ubotu> Package foobilliard does not exist in any distro I know
[08:59] <Madpilot> !info foobilliards
[08:59] <ubotu> Package foobilliards does not exist in any distro I know
[08:59] <Madpilot> hmm
[09:00] <dgibbons> krage: thats the TZ environment variable they can set in their shell
[09:00] <Hentai_jeff> swicken what's your system like?
[09:00] <wastrel> !info foobillard
[09:00] <ubotu> foobillard: a 3D billiards game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0a-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 976 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[09:00] <trogdoor> sudo apt-get install foobillard works for me :)
[09:00] <holycow> dudes its in the repo
[09:00] <holycow> just apt get
[09:00] <PhilH> foobillard does
[09:00] <holycow> once again, PLEASE TRY NOT to bypass the packaging system until you really are ready to hose your sytem :)
[09:01] <PhilH> sudo apt-get install foobillard
[09:01] <dgibbons> !info pound
[09:01] <ubotu> pound: reverse proxy, load balancer and https front-end for web-servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.4-1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 196 kB
[09:01] <dgibbons> huh
[09:01] <holycow> i need to put up a page on the wiki explaining to noobs installations categories and where to use what an dhow
[09:01] <Hentai_jeff> swicken: it really sounds like your video drivers are fucked
[09:01] <wastrel> language
[09:01] <Hentai_jeff> what video card are you using?
[09:01] <swicken> Asus A8N-E with 3000+ 64bit
[09:01] <PhilH> wastrel, it's a technical term
[09:01] <AbortD> !restricted
[09:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:01] <Neo8750> kendals: http://home.comcast.net/~neo8750/shot1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~neo8750/shot2.jpg
[09:01] <Madpilot> holycow, you mean 'how to use Universe' and such? check the wiki, it already exists...
[09:01] <swicken> ATI X800XT
[09:01] <trogdoor> I don't know if tchung knows what package management is, I may be wrong.
[09:01] <zoidberg> it says cant find package when i try to download foobilliards
[09:01] <swicken> 1 gig generic ram
[09:01] <Hentai_jeff> ahhhh
[09:01] <Neo8750> took me a while lol
[09:01] <swicken> 120gig sata HDD
[09:01] <Madpilot> zoidberg, enable Universe
[09:01] <PhilH> sudo apt-get install foobillard
[09:02] <swicken> pretty basic
[09:02] <PhilH> zoidberg: sudo apt-get install foobillard
[09:02] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell zoidberg about universe
[09:02] <PhilH> zoidberg, make sure you're spelling it correctly
[09:02] <dgibbons> !info nginx
[09:02] <Hentai_jeff> can you at least boot into shell?
[09:02] <ubotu> Package nginx does not exist in any distro I know
[09:02] <zoidberg> sorry
[09:02] <dgibbons> HAH!
[09:02] <zoidberg> just mispeeled it
[09:02] <kendals> http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4091/screenshotul3.png - how do I make my GAIM icon transparent like the others in the top right panel area...?
[09:02] <holycow> Madpilot, no, maybe i should paraphrase.  How to UNDERSTAND different install methodologies, and WHY a package manager like dpkg is the right way to do it and superior to anything on windows.
[09:02] <swicken> how could my video card drivers be messed?
[09:02] <zoidberg> but why is it spelled BILLARD?
[09:02] <PhilH> it's billard, not billiard
[09:02] <trogdoor> tchung, Have you ever used synaptic or apt or "add remove software" before?
[09:02] <swicken> its the install disc.
[09:02] <swicken> I havent installed any drivers
[09:02] <PhilH> because that's what the developer called it
[09:02] <holycow> also why the osx drag and drop installs don't exist on a 'free / libre / lots of free labour to make this stuff ' platform
[09:03] <holycow> zoidberg, wtf doyou care?
[09:03] <holycow> zoidberg, just install it and be done with it already :)
[09:03] <tchung> trogdoor
[09:03] <tchung> I do
[09:03] <Madpilot> holycow, if that info doesn't exist on one of the related wiki pages already, please add it :)
[09:03] <wastrel> might be worthwhile to file a bug if the name of the program is misspelled
[09:03] <tchung> I can't find prolog at the repository
[09:03] <Neo8750> kendals: get an icon with a transparent background
[09:03] <jazzrocker> hehehe, my computer is so much faster now that i reinstalled :)
[09:03] <holycow> Madpilot, i intend to. *nod*
[09:03] <tchung> the instruction is here
[09:03] <PhilH> wastrel, it isn't the program is called FooBillard
[09:04] <swicken> anyone?
[09:04] <EnsignRedshirt> zoidberg: Check out the first FAQ: http://foobillard.sunsite.dk/faq.html
[09:04] <jazzrocker> windows is still lame as ever
[09:04] <zoidberg> well my Intel onboard video card cant handle it
[09:04] <tchung> http://www.swi-prolog.org/installunix.html
[09:04] <trogdoor> tchung, do you have the univese repository enabled?
[09:04] <zoidberg> guys i have a nvidida RIVA TNT2 pro card
[09:04] <kendals> neo8750- thanks...!
[09:04] <tchung> nah...
[09:04] <kendals> :)
[09:04] <tchung> how do you do it?
[09:04] <zoidberg> i couldnt ge tit to work while installing UBUNTU so i removed it
[09:04] <Neo8750> i don't know mine is transparent
[09:04] <zoidberg> you think i can make it work now?
[09:04] <PhilH> zoidberg: when you say it didn't work? what happened?
[09:05] <swicken> le sigh
[09:05] <Neo8750> but then i am runing 2.0 beta 3.1
[09:05] <swicken> it cannot by video card drivers
[09:05] <trogdoor> tchung, In synaptic go to settings -> repositories.
[09:05] <zoidberg> while GNOME wouldnt stsart
[09:05] <swicken> unless the ubuntu install CD doesnt support ATI
[09:05] <tchung> ok
[09:05] <zoidberg> GDM woulldtn start
[09:05] <holycow> thats an old vid card, that should just work
[09:05] <PhilH> mine certainly does
[09:05] <zoidberg> it doesnt work and i've seen a lot of people having problems with it
[09:05] <holycow> zoidberg, did you get an xservver blue screen error describing why it didn't start?
[09:06] <zoidberg> yes holycow
[09:06] <trogdoor> tchung, I don't remember how it is by default, is "universe" listed there?
[09:06] <holycow> zoidberg, in that case, yeah just pull it out ... then go to command line
[09:06] <holycow> log in from command line
[09:06] <tchung> nah... it is not
[09:06] <holycow> do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the vesa driver
[09:06] <swicken> BTW: on a side note
[09:06] <swicken> I love my ISP
[09:06] <swicken> 1.4mb/sec
[09:06] <trogdoor> tchung, Ok, click on add.
[09:06] <holycow> then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and your done
[09:06] <swicken> bytes, not bits.
[09:06] <swicken> :P
[09:06] <holycow> zoidberg, i'm assuming you have an onboard vid card
[09:07] <PhilH> i was gonna say, 1.4 megbits per second isn't special
[09:07] <Nemoder> How do I tell what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[09:07] <tchung> yes, trogdoor
[09:07] <swicken> 1.4 megabytes is superdeeduper in my books
[09:07] <swicken> anyway
[09:07] <zoidberg> holycow ii had tried that...and yes i do have an onboard vid card....but i want to run my NVDIDA RIVA TNT card...is that possible
[09:07] <Madpilot> Nemoder, System->About Ubuntu
[09:07] <wastrel> Nemoder:  lsb_release -a
[09:07] <swicken> so does anyone have a suggestion as to something I could try?
[09:07] <holycow> zoidberg, yes
[09:07] <mabus> What's an easy command to tell how much space is being used by a folder, in a human readable format?
[09:07] <trogdoor> tchung, check the box that says universe
[09:07] <holycow> zoidberg, AFTER your in via vesa ...
[09:07] <holycow> !nvidia
[09:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:07] <holycow> follow those instructions
[09:07] <holycow> everything is in the repo
[09:07] <Nemoder> thanks
[09:07] <PhilH> type uname -a at a shell
[09:07] <holycow> i run dual monis via nvidia
[09:07] <Madpilot> mabus, if you want a GUI way, install baobab - very cool little addon for Nautilus
[09:08] <Neo-zZzZ> nn
[09:08] <wastrel> mabus:  df -h
[09:08] <tchung> oh... actually, universe is in the default list
[09:08] <wastrel> mabus:  er, du -sh
[09:08] <PhilH> Have any of you Guys heard of Software Freedom Day?
[09:09] <trogdoor> tchung, make sure the box for it is checked then.
[09:09] <holycow> no, but it sounds like a great idea
[09:09] <PhilH> http://www.softwarefreedomday.org
[09:09] <PhilH> for more info
[09:09] <mabus> thanks
[09:09] <tchung> should I tick the Backports as well? what is it?
[09:09] <holycow> tchung, yes
[09:09] <trogdoor> !backports
[09:09] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:10] <holycow> Madpilot, what is the proper spelling of that baobab thing, i can't find it
[09:10] <wastrel> baobab is in universe
[09:10] <Madpilot> holycow, 'baobab' I think
[09:10] <Madpilot> !info baobab
[09:10] <ubotu> baobab: graphical tool to analyse directory trees. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 584 kB
[09:11] <holycow> edgys new repo dialog is terrific
[09:13] <trogdoor> tchung, Once you have what you want checked ( all of them likely ) just click the add button ( the one on the new smaller window )
[09:15] <tchung> trogdoor, so I don't need to build from source ?
[09:15] <trogdoor> tchung, No, and for most applications you never will.
[09:16] <wastrel> mmm
[09:16] <Blinker_> i'm trying to set up an ntfs partition as writable on a local machine (not across network). what exactly would I have to change in fstab/mtab to get this bugger working? =p
[09:16] <tchung> trogdoor, thanks
[09:17] <trogdoor> tchung, have you finished checking the boxes and clicking add?
[09:17] <holycow> !ntfs
[09:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:17] <holycow> Blinker_, as far as i know there is no reliable way to write to ntfs
[09:18] <holycow> not too long ago all the ntfs projects shutdown ... but recently someone mentioned there is experimental write to ntfs
[09:18] <philc> anyone know if you can install greasemonkey in camino (OSX) by just clicking the link on the greasemonkey page like regular firefox users?
[09:18] <tchung> trogdoor, yea I have selected the package and am downloading it
[09:18] <PhilH> holycow, there is but it's very new
[09:18] <trogdoor> tchung, good :)
[09:18] <holycow> i would strongly suggest that it might be unreliable so do your research ... you are taking a risk at hosing your ntfs partition
[09:18] <Blinker_> what partition type would be ideal then?
[09:18] <PhilH> using a filesystem in userspace plugin
[09:18] <KurtKraut> Blinker_, in order to write over a NTFS partition you will need to use an experimental software (but its a kind of reliable) software called ntfs-3g
[09:18] <holycow> for what ... sharing betwenn win and linux?
[09:18] <KurtKraut> Blinker_, search in ubuntuforums.org for further details
[09:18] <Blinker_> holycow, yes
[09:19] <PhilH> fat32 is a good choice
[09:19] <KurtKraut> Blinker_, It is reliable except if you move files bigger than or equal to 4gb
[09:19] <holycow> fat32 right now is okay i guess ... win my bork at it being greater than 32 gigs
[09:19] <kendals> Hey guys- I can't seem to add/find the Canon s520 printer on an XP machine on my network. But Parallels XP can find it and print to it :(
[09:19] <holycow> you can use ext3 i hear but i don't know if win has ext3 write capability, you would need to google
[09:19] <PhilH> well, i certainly wouldn't suggest using fat32 as your primary windows partition type, that would be horrible
[09:20] <PhilH> holycow, what do you think?!!!
[09:20] <Blinker_> holycow, it doesnt. tried that route first, heh
[09:20] <holycow> kendals, canons are VERY VERY POOOOORLY supported on linux
[09:20] <holycow> kendals, linuxprinting.org will tell you if its supported or not
[09:20] <swicken> I spent
[09:20] <swicken> all day today
[09:20] <Blinker_> holycow, thanks for the info - i'll give fat32 a shot
[09:20] <swicken> learning about laser printers
[09:20] <holycow> kendals, basically kiss off ever buying canon anything and have it work reliably on linux ... they are a bastard of a company
[09:20] <swicken> cause I got a job at HP tech
[09:20] <kendals> thanks holycow. i don't think it is supported :(
[09:20] <PhilH> there are proprietary drivers you can use to enable mounting of ext2/3 partitions under 2k/XP but i can't remember where from
[09:20] <swicken> my brains going to melt
[09:21] <kendals> damn- i used to love canon on my XP machine...
[09:21] <swicken> if I stick any more printer shit in it
[09:21] <kendals> i should test out my ixus 50 camera too ...
[09:21] <holycow> Blinker_, meh, sorry. thats about all the options then.
[09:21] <kendals> guess i'll just have to boot parallels to print stuff...bah
[09:21] <holycow> kendals, ironically brother has a bad rep but ... the support linux
[09:21] <holycow> not only that ...
[09:21] <kendals> haha, true.
[09:21] <holycow> their drivers are open source
[09:21] <holycow> and they have rpms and DEBS
[09:21] <holycow> lol
[09:22] <kendals> wow nice
[09:22] <PhilH> kendals, the ixus 50 should work fine
[09:22] <holycow> and pretty much most of their line of products is supported ... we are actually testing them at work and will drop hp if they turn out okay
[09:22] <PhilH> gphoto is very capable
[09:22] <wastrel> my question is, why do i need drivers for canon on linux, if i'm sharing the printer from windows, which has drivers
[09:22] <holycow> wasabi, you need linux drivers
[09:22] <PhilH> because your linux programs need to know what format to send the data in
[09:23] <PhilH> holycow, the only real way to use ext2/3 on windows is http://www.paragon.ag/file_system_drivers.htm
[09:23] <PhilH> it is a surprisingly good product though
[09:23] <holycow> plus you need to set up the printer via samba ... thats the only way to talk to a printer hosted on windows.
[09:23] <Guard] [an> hi
[09:24] <Guard] [an> can someone remind me the command line to know which wireless adapter is installed on my laptop ?
[09:24] <holycow> PhilH, really?
[09:24] <holycow> ohh that paid stuff
[09:24] <holycow> *hmmm*
[09:24] <EnsignRedshirt> holycow: I don't think that is true.
[09:24] <holycow> that sucks ... don't you just hate the smell of windows fricking software?
[09:24] <trogdoor> PhilH, My friend has been using an open source application for that for a while now, i think?
[09:24] <bobby123> can anyone tell me how to play counter strike on liinux
[09:24] <bobby123> ?
[09:24] <bobby123> linux*
[09:24] <holycow> every jerk in windows land thinks they can charge 9,95 for 10 lines of code
[09:24] <bobby123> im unable to install wine
[09:24] <holycow> :)
[09:24] <PhilH> trogdoor, cool, very interested
[09:24] <bobby123> as mine is a 64bit cpu
[09:25] <holycow> EnsignRedshirt, you need to send the print job to a print server
[09:25] <bobby123> 11 holycow
[09:25] <kendals> thanks philh.
[09:25] <holycow> EnsignRedshirt, you might be able to send it 'raw' or postscript but i've not tried in a long time
[09:25] <kendals> so is there any easy way to get a canon s520 on a windows network to work?
[09:25] <trogdoor> PhilH, It was on source forge.
[09:25] <ootput> holycow: 9,950?!
[09:25] <holycow> basically you need to send it via smb ... thats how windows machines send print jobs to each other
[09:25] <holycow> its completely stupid
[09:26] <kendals> well i have smb there...
[09:26] <bobby123> can anyone tell me how to play counter strike on liinux???????
[09:26] <bobby123> can anyone tell me how to play counter strike on liinux???????
[09:26] <kendals> but when i browse the machine in say, nautilus, it doesn't show up
[09:26] <kendals> all the shared folders are there.
[09:26] <bobby123> can anyone tell me how to play counter strike or age of empireson liinux???????
[09:26] <kendals> but no printer! :(
[09:26] <holycow> kendals, indeed, the dialog in the printer setup lets you check it off as well
[09:26] <bobby123> can anyone tell me how to play counter strike or age of empires on liinux???????
[09:26] <kendals> ahh true.
[09:26] <ootput> bobby123: make use of a search engine, and stop repeating yourself
[09:26] <trogdoor> PhilH, I'm looking for it ( I don't have it myself because I down't own Windows :) )
[09:26] <holycow> kendals, you don't right click and connect via smb
[09:26] <bobby123> okies
[09:26] <bobby123> sorry for that
[09:26] <holycow> kendals, you do add printer ... then select the right smb settings
[09:26] <PhilH> trogdoor, cool, thanks
[09:26] <bobby123> i thought sumbody might help me
[09:26] <holycow> typically you need to type in ipaddres:/something/something
[09:26] <bobby123> :(
[09:27] <kendals> ahh ok...i'll try the ip address thing
[09:27] <holycow> kendals, printers NEVER show up via smb clients mostly because there is nothing you can do with that
[09:27] <PhilH> bobby, it's not easy, petition Valve to release a linux client
[09:27] <Hentai_jeff> trogdoor: who the hell actully owns windows?
[09:27] <bobby123> cant i use wine??
[09:27] <wastrel> i own a copy of xp
[09:27] <ootput> bobby123: http://www.stgraber.org/?p=6
[09:27] <ootput> bobby123: read it through before asking
[09:27] <wastrel> it's not installed tho
[09:27] <bobby123> previously i isntalled a 32-bit OS
[09:27] <bobby123> then i could paly it with wine
[09:27] <trogdoor> Hentai_jeff, But I don't even have it installed :)
[09:27] <PhilH> wastrel, you have a license, it's not the same as owning it
[09:28] <bobby123> but now im using 64-bit OS
[09:28] <wastrel> semantics
[09:28] <bobby123> tht doesnt have wine
[09:28] <zoidberg> hey is there someone with the name cow in here?
[09:28] <Hentai_jeff> I have it working through vmware just cause work demands that I use it for one program
[09:28] <kendals> holycow.
[09:28] <kendals> also.
[09:28] <zoidberg> yeah holycow
[09:28] <zoidberg> are u there
[09:28] <PhilH> wastrel, quite important semantics when you think about it though
[09:28] <ootput> zoidberg: /whois cow
[09:28] <kendals> holycow: with the ipaddres:/something/something - what wasthe something something bit
[09:29] <wastrel> PhilH:  important in some contexts
[09:29] <holycow> kendals, i donno, i have forgotten too much windows stuff as i never use it anymore
[09:29] <zoidberg> holycow, i'm on a laptop now....i put the nvidia card back in my pc....after i downloaded nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:29] <kendals> true, thanks anyway
[09:29] <holycow> kendals, google will generate some examples ... itws a common question.  search the forums and iwki too
[09:29] <PhilH> wastrel, important as an example of the differences between proprietary and Free software
[09:29] <Acidic32> ubotu, universe
[09:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:29] <Hentai_jeff> hate how the higher ups descided to use microsoft groove for our ticket counter...
[09:29] <bobby123> can anyone tell me how to play counter strike or age of empires on liinux???????
[09:30] <Blinker_> wine
[09:30] <holycow> zoidberg, no you can just have your nvidia card in the pc
[09:30] <bobby123> 64-bit os
[09:30] <zoidberg> holycow, but when GDM was starting it got stuck again...i think i'm supposed to do some other things tooo but not sure what....i'm in recovery mode on the pc right now with a terminal
[09:30] <bobby123> no wine package
[09:30] <bobby123> :(
[09:30] <Hentai_jeff> bobby123:you can either try wine or giveup
[09:30] <PhilH> bobby123, sign up for a Cedega subscription
[09:30] <holycow> zoidberg, at first you make sure you dpkg-reconfigure to use vesa so at least you have a desktop
[09:30] <bobby123> can anyone tell me how to play counter strike or age of empires on 64-bit liinux???????
[09:30] <holycow> then follow the !nvidia instructios
[09:30] <ph8> stop asking bobby
[09:30] <Hentai_jeff> or cedega
[09:30] <holycow> !nvidia
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:30] <bobby123> ok
[09:30] <holycow> zoidberg, in that order
[09:30] <ootput> bobby123: package it yourself
[09:30] <zoidberg> well i didnt dpkg-reconfigure
[09:30] <zoidberg> what do i do now
[09:31] <holycow> zoidberg, in recovery mode you want to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:31] <bobby123> !cedega
[09:31] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[09:31] <zoidberg> i've already install nvdia glx legacy
[09:31] <holycow> and go through the dialogs, make sure you choose the vesa driver, leave everything the same
[09:31] <Acidic32> !easysource
[09:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:31] <holycow> that will let you at least use nvidia in 2d accelerated mode
[09:32] <trogdoor> PhilH, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd but I am not sure that is the one, I also remember some of the other apps suck FYI this might be one of those "others" and not the good one, I don't remember.
[09:32] <zoidberg> holycow, right now it siasking to Enter an Idtenifer for your video card....and it has the Intel card written there
[09:32] <zoidberg> holycow, what should i do
[09:33] <holycow> just press enter
[09:33] <ootput> trogdoor: to r/w to ext3 while in Windows?
[09:33] <holycow> dont f with that
[09:33] <ootput> ext2/3
[09:33] <PhilH> trogdoor, thanks, " Many changes are made since 0.25a, but I have no enough time for more testings. Next month I might have time for ext2fsd and make a new release." not sure i like the sound of that ;)
[09:33] <Hentai_jeff> while bobby has it halfway anyone know the best place I can find ID software games for linux?
[09:33] <erpo> Somehow my trash can/recycle bin disappeared from my Desktop. How do I get it to come back?
[09:33] <trogdoor> PhilH, My friend actually uses ext3 as his data partition for linux AND windows, he even installs his windows apps on it.
[09:33] <erpo> Hentai_jeff: Go buy a copy of the windows version and download the linux binaries from idsoftware.com
[09:34] <holycow> trogdoor, what does he use for windows writing?
[09:34] <ootput> PhilH: there's an app called "IFS"-something that's just great
[09:34] <EnsignRedshirt> holycow: Following up on my earlier comment... I could swear I used a printer attached to a windows computer, without setting up samba.  But that was awhile ago (I was using warty).
[09:34] <Hentai_jeff> ah I thought they had a special linux version to buy
[09:34] <holycow> i'd like to know that, i cannot stand having to use fat32 even the odd time
[09:34] <trogdoor> holycow, I don't remember, sorry :(
[09:34] <ootput> PhilH: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[09:34] <zoidberg> holycow, it didnt ask me anything about the VESA driver?
[09:34] <holycow> ootput, ext2? oh good enough :)
[09:35] <ootput> holycow: both
[09:35] <holycow> not very safe at all, you will loose data on that on a bad powerdown ...
[09:35] <zoidberg> holycow, it didnt ask me anything about a VESA driver?
[09:35] <wastrel> erpo:  in gconf-editor  apps > nautilus > desktop  trash_icon_visible
[09:35] <trogdoor> holycow, PhilH, I will talk to my friend tomorrow and put a link on my web page @ trogdoor.googlepages.com/extinwindows
[09:35] <holycow> zoidberg, yes it did
[09:36] <Crazed> any one here who knows a good site to configure my X config with a TV
[09:36] <holycow> zoidberg, its one of the first couple of questions, it asks you to select a driver
[09:36] <zoidberg> well i didnt see it
[09:36] <Crazed> I got a guide and it's all working
[09:36] <holycow> you need to arrow down to the bottom and select vesa
[09:36] <zoidberg> are u sure
[09:36] <holycow> do it again
[09:36] <holycow> zoidberg, i don't care if you saw it, i do this for a living, its there :)
[09:36] <Crazed> but flicker is really awfull and need the screen to be on the left instead of right
[09:36] <holycow> by default it will try and select nvidia driver
[09:37] <PhilH> ootput, ifs looks nice
[09:37] <zoidberg> holycow, i selected the VESA driver
[09:37] <zoidberg> now what
[09:37] <holycow> finish it
[09:37] <PhilH> trogdoor, thanks, i look forward to hearing more
[09:37] <ootput> PhilH: it performs much better than the other frequently used dev driver
[09:37] <zoidberg> holycow, finished it now what
[09:37] <holycow> your just telling it what driver to use ... you want it to use vesa at first so at least you can get to a basic desktop when you reboot
[09:37] <holycow> reboot
[09:38] <ClayG> anyone know of an all in one (standalone i guess)_ email client for the CLI?
[09:38] <bobby_123> is there a 64bit version of cedega?
[09:38] <ootput> ClayG: mutt, pine, gnus
[09:38] <bobby_123> ot wine?
[09:38] <bobby_123> or*
[09:38] <holycow> bobby_123, no
[09:38] <ootput> ClayG: wanderlust, mew (for emacs)
[09:38] <bobby_123> :(
[09:38] <mjr> bobby_123, no, not yet at least
[09:38] <holycow> i doubt there will ever be 64 bit
[09:38] <zoidberg> holycow, it is rebooting
[09:39] <bobby_123> can i install the 32 bit version on amd64?
[09:39] <mjr> holycow, there probably will, and the 64-bit versions of wine will probably run only 64-bit windows apps.
[09:39] <holycow> as long as your os is 32 bit sure
[09:39] <mjr> bobby_123, yes
[09:39] <bobby_123> mjr, how?
[09:39] <bobby_123> im using 64 bit OS
[09:39] <holycow> mjr, my understanding is win64 is very much a true 64 bit app ... they rewrote a lot of stuff
[09:39] <mjr> http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[09:40] <holycow> if it took them this long to get 32 bit support to late beta stage ... 64 bit will take a while
[09:40] <erpo> wastrel: Thanks. Worked like a charm. :)
[09:40] <bobby_123> !wine64
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <atenyi> Just installed ubuntu but I'm disappointed by the intermitent keyboard key lockups. Especially the asdf keys! Has anyone had the same problem? It's annoying to boot up the system and not be able to login b'se the password has an asdc.
[09:40] <zoidberg> holycow, i get a blue screen saysing "Failed to start the X server (your GUI) it is likeyly it is not set up correctly...would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[09:40] <bobby_123> !wine
[09:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:40] <mjr> holycow, it's not really like that
[09:40] <holycow> yeah?
[09:41] <mjr> there is work to be done, sure, but much of it can build on existing win32 stuff
[09:41] <zoidberg> holycow, i get a blue screen saying it fialed to start X server
[09:41] <holycow> mjr, i'll go with you answer then :)
[09:41] <holycow> zoidberg, with vesa? wow.
[09:41] <zoidberg> yes
[09:42] <holycow> then something is either seriously wrong or your xorg.conf file is borked
[09:42] <PhilH> porting a win32 app to win64 is surely pretty trivial for the most part so i'm sure it wont take long to support win64 app under wine on 64bit x86 linux
[09:42] <zoidberg> why?
[09:42] <trogdoor> zoidberg, do you have a backup of your xorg.conf ?
[09:42] <mjr> holycow, the big redesign thing is with the .net and stuff like that that MS wants people to use for all the new stuff instead of straight win32/64
[09:43] <zoidberg> holycow, cant i just configure the Nvidia card through revovery mode....i can just use the terminal?
[09:43] <Flannel> zoidberg: does updating your packages help?  (see this: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue )
[09:43] <holycow> zoidberg, can you check your xorg.conf file and see if its using vesa driver? maybe the reconfig script thinks its modifying the file but it really isn't
[09:43] <holycow> zoidberg, you can just use terminal
[09:43] <holycow> ctrl / alt / f1 or whatever
[09:43] <holycow> zoidberg, are you using dapper or ... ?
[09:43] <zoidberg> holycow, i am in the revovery mode terminal right now...how do i check the xorg.conf file
[09:43] <zoidberg> dapper
[09:44] <trogdoor> zoidberg, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:44] <holycow> there ya go
[09:44] <holycow> i'm too slow
[09:48] <PhilH> ok, it's gone quiet, time to spam you with another Visit http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ ! message
[09:48] <zoidberg> holycow, okay now i'm in xorg.conf using nano....where is the video section so i can check that its using VESA?
[09:49] <holycow> scroll down, you should look for something like driver ="vesa" or whatever
[09:49] <zanpakuto> hi, how do I use libstdc++.so.5 instead of newer versions? I am getting some warning: libstdc++.so.5 may conflict with libstdc++.so.6
[09:49] <bobby_123> whts the latest ubuntu realease???
[09:50] <bobby_123> !ubuntu
[09:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:50] <bobby_123> !latest
[09:50] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:50] <zoidberg> holycow, okay so i am at the the section and it does say "Driver "vesa""
[09:50] <PhilH> bobby_123, what do you want to know?
[09:50] <Madpilot> bobby_123, 6.06.1 LTS is latest stable - the next version is in testing now
[09:51] <Flannel> bobby_123: 6.06 is the latest release, however you can download 6.06.1, which is a point 'update', basically just some updates rolled into an ISO, so you have less to download once you install
[09:51] <holycow> zoidberg, we were just checking that it is using it.  so it is using vesa but crashing.  now we know its not crashing because of an obvious misconfiguration.
[09:51] <zoidberg> holycow, so what do we do now?
[09:51] <holycow> zoidberg, what that means is you have a much more serious problem .... probably with the card ... but hard to tell.
[09:51] <k0rd> how long does it take to partition like 61.2 GB?
[09:51] <kaitlyn> Which package do I install to get make?
[09:51] <trogdoor> zoidberg, Did x work with the liveCD?
[09:51] <PhilH> zoidberg, is the onboard videocard disabled properly?
[09:51] <holycow> you would need to pastebing your xorg log files, but i don't feel like trolling those at 1 am.
[09:52] <sputnick> hi all - I've installed Texlive2005 but would like to unistall it again - how do I do that? I really hope someone can help me.
[09:52] <kaitlyn> k0rd: With resierFS, or etcX about 30 seconds to 2 minutes.
[09:52] <PhilH> sputnick, how did you install it?
[09:52] <holycow> k0rd, no kaitlyn is wrong
[09:52] <holycow> it takes far less than 30 seconds
[09:52] <Madpilot> kaitlyn, build-essential to get make and all the compiling stuff
[09:52] <sputnick> PhilH, in the terminal (I'm a newbee) from a cd
[09:52] <holycow> unless you were to do a low level format ... it only writes out the sectors, on 60 gig thats nothing under reiser
[09:53] <holycow> i just did that a few hours ago infact :)
[09:53] <zoidberg> the onboard videocard is NOT disabled...imy monitor is plugged into the NVIDIA CARD....the identiefired in the XORG file is is the Intel on board vid card
[09:53] <PhilH> sputnick, what kinf of thing did you type to install it?
[09:53] <sputnick> PhilH, one sec
[09:53] <kaitlyn> holycow: On my 1.8 processor it takes about 35 seconds for ext3 on an 80GB laptop drive.  On my 266 it took about 90 seconds for ext2 for a 40GB drive.
[09:53] <trogdoor> Bye.
[09:53] <sputnick> PhilH, sudo sh install-tl.sh was the command I used
[09:54] <PhilH> zoidberg, sorry, did i miss something, are you aiming for dualhead?
[09:54] <kaitlyn> Thanks Madpilot.  :)
[09:54] <holycow> kaitlyn on a pentium 2.7 ghz it took less than 30 seconds ... *hmmm*
[09:54] <holycow> okay then there is some variability :)
[09:54] <zoidberg> holycow, i think we are doing something wrong here....right now my monitor is plugged into the NVIDIA CARD....but we are using vesa and xorg has the Intel card for the identifier
[09:54] <zoidberg> the onboard videocard is NOT disabled...imy monitor is plugged into the NVIDIA CARD....the identiefired in the XORG file is is the Intel on board vid card
[09:54] <kaitlyn> holycow: Indeed.
[09:54] <holycow> zoidberg, oh ... disable your onboard vid card then
[09:54] <holycow> then reconfigure xorg again
[09:55] <zoidberg> how do i disable it holy cow
[09:55] <holycow> so it points to the right card on your bus
[09:55] <holycow> zoidberg, bios
[09:55] <PhilH> zoidberg, the identified bit probably doesn't matter, it's just what was detected when ubuntu was installed
[09:55] <zoidberg> holycow
[09:55] <zoidberg> what do i need to do
[09:55] <PhilH> sputnick, this is one of those "oh joy" moments
[09:55] <zoidberg> go to bios?
[09:55] <rxKaffee> anyone know what would be a good livecd with AoE support?
[09:55] <zoidberg> can i disable it from the terminal itself
[09:55] <holycow> what philc is probably ture ... usually bios automatically turn off onboard vid when they detect a vid card in agp slot
[09:55] <zanpakuto> hi, how do I use libstdc++.so.5 instead of newer versions? I am getting some warning: libstdc++.so.5 may conflict with libstdc++.so.6
[09:55] <holycow> maybe yours doesnt
[09:55] <holycow> zoidberg, no you need to access the bios
[09:56] <holycow> or repoint it to the right bus identifier, i don't know how to do that ... i'm too lazy and just modify it via bios if i need to
[09:56] <sputnick> PhilH, haha
[09:57] <PhilH> sputnick, try editing the shell script from the CD to see if there's anything in the way of uninstall procedures in there
[09:59] <rixth_> How can I find a string in in m ultiple files?
[09:59] <tourach> rixth_: grep
[10:00] <rixth_> tourach, not across multiple files. I haven't been able to put *.php and has it work
[10:00] <zoidberg> holycow, so i went to the bios the video card is set to auto...which the bios says uses the ADDED CARD as default...if there is no other card present it would use the onboard one?
[10:00] <PhilH> cat *|grep searchedstring
[10:01] <holycow> zoidberg, not sure, every bios, and every fricking bios version is differnt
[10:01] <holycow> mostly because of the magic of closed source
[10:01] <holycow> experiment see what happens
[10:01] <tengil> im trying to get vnstat for dapper. i find the package on the ubuntu package page in universe. i have this line in my sources.lst deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse. why wont it find vnstat when i try to install the package?
[10:01] <holycow> zoidberg, the things you just went through are the skills you need to resolve 90% of video card issues actually
[10:02] <PhilH> rixth_, any luck with that?
[10:02] <PhilH> use cat *.php|grep string
[10:02] <zoidberg> holycow, i cant really experiment coz i can either select auto which should selsect the nvidia CARD OR  omboard which selescts the onboard card
[10:02] <rixth_> PhilH, lookin good, except it doesn't recurse into dirs
[10:02] <PhilH> ah
[10:03] <holycow> zoidberg, at this juncture you are going to then haveto do a calculation:
[10:03] <zoidberg> holycow, my question is this....can i just configure the NVIDIA card from revoery mode without a desktop....and install the right drivers?
[10:03] <holycow> is it cheaper to buy a new system / vid card or is it cheaper to google the requisite knowledge on how to scan your bus for the vid card in question and convert that to the proper terminology ie: 1.0.0 or whatever
[10:03] <holycow> zoidberg, well yes you can try
[10:04] <holycow> !nvidia
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <holycow> you can do all of that from command line
[10:04] <holycow> you DON'T haveto be in recovery
[10:04] <bobby_123> !check
[10:04] <ubotu> check: unit test framework for C. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3-2 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 304 kB
[10:04] <holycow> just startup as normal
[10:04] <holycow> x will crash and send you to a command line
[10:04] <bobby_123> !fork
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <holycow> login from there and install drivers and see what happens
[10:04] <bobby_123> !rfork
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rfork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <bobby_123> !xubuntu
[10:04] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <zoidberg> okay i just have one more question holy cow
[10:05] <holycow> shoot
[10:05] <zoidberg> in the nvidoe apage you just sent me
[10:05] <zoidberg> go there please i have a question regarding one step
[10:06] <PhilH> can anyone elaborate on cat piped into grep for rixth?
[10:06] <zoidberg> it is step 6
[10:06] <zoidberg> holycow, can you help me with step 6 on the page
[10:06] <zoidberg> i'm not sure i know what they mean
[10:06] <mypapit> zoidberg? wtf?
[10:07] <zoidberg> holycow, it says to find the approriate module fore your kernel?
[10:08] <PhilH> that's the module that's installed when you get the nvidia-legacy -glx package
[10:08] <PhilH> it should be the correct version for you kernel
[10:08] <bobby_123> can anyone tell me where to start learnin kernel programmin?
[10:09] <k0rd> well here's the situation
[10:09] <PhilH> bobby_123, ten seconds ago you were confused by the prospect of running counterstrike on linux, i don't think it would be productive
[10:09] <bobby_123> !kernel
[10:09] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:09] <bobby_123> ok
[10:09] <k0rd> i have a 200 gb hd, and im partitioning 61.2 GB for linux, so....it's been going for like 1 hour
[10:09] <k0rd> should it be taking this long?
[10:09] <tengil> can anyone give me a line for sources list that should let me get package vnstat. it says it should be in dapper universe but it doesnt work for download for me
[10:09] <tengil> can anyone else check if they can get that package?
[10:09] <bobby_123> i ws confused cos thrs not wine fr 64 bit
[10:09] <bobby_123> not tht i dint run it before
[10:10] <bobby_123> PhilH
[10:10] <PhilH> k0rd, what commands are you using? are you just partitioning or formatting too?
[10:10] <k0rd> im just partitioning using the ubuntu installation
[10:10] <k0rd> im on the live cd atm
[10:11] <wastrel> k0rd:  it's shrinking your windows partition?
[10:11] <k0rd> it's resizing and using the freed space
[10:11] <k0rd> that's the option I chose, because im trying to dual-boot it with xp
[10:11] <bobby_123> :(
[10:11] <bobby_123> !wtf
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <ph8> you shouldn't have to compile a kernel? what about if i want grsec?
[10:12] <ph8> :)
[10:12] <PhilH> bobboy_123, i don't know how to help you
[10:12] <zoidberg> how do i restart x11 from the terminal
[10:12] <bobby_123> ok
[10:12] <bobby_123> thnx fr tryin
[10:12] <PhilH> zoidberg, use gdm
[10:12] <wastrel> k0rd:  that could take a long time - it took a while to shrink my 40 gig windows partition... dunno tho.  did you defrag windows first?
[10:12] <PhilH> although it may already be running
[10:13] <PhilH> in which case use sudo killall gdm&&gdm
[10:13] <PhilH> or rather sudo killall gdm&&sudo gdm
[10:13] <k0rd> no i didn't
[10:13] <k0rd> :-\
[10:14] <PhilH> k0rd, make yourself comfortable
[10:14] <k0rd> lol
[10:14] <k0rd> does linux have a defragger, or can I use wine?
[10:14] <k0rd> i really dont feel like booting back into windows
[10:15] <PhilH> k0rd, try using Ctrl+Alt+Fn to switch between virtual consoles, one of them may just give you some progress reports on the formatting process
[10:16] <ompaul> k0rd, what do you want to defrag?
[10:16] <PhilH> Fn = F1, F2, F3, etc.
[10:16] <k0rd> my harddrive...
[10:16] <DBO> k0rd, linux doesnt need to be defragged
[10:16] <DBO> k0rd, it doesnt fragment
[10:16] <k0rd> yeah, but im installing linux, it's not on my pc yet
[10:16] <k0rd> im on the live cd
[10:16] <PhilH> DBO, it does but that's not the point, he wants to defrag his windows partition, the one that's being resized
[10:16] <DBO> sorry my mistake
[10:17] <ompaul> k0rd, ahh you should use the windows defragger
[10:17] <ompaul> k0rd, or better yet
[10:17] <ompaul> k0rd, remove windows totally
[10:17] <k0rd> i can't do that
[10:17] <k0rd> family pc
[10:17] <k0rd> :(
[10:17] <PhilH> i'd be a little cautious about stopping the resizing operation at this stage though, i think you'd better just let it get on with it
[10:17] <PhilH> k0rd, have you looked at the various consoles?
[10:19] <Ackeubu_>  hey how do I mount sd cards??? tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 1
[10:20] <opexoc> When I am using vim. It displays well all my polish fonts. However, yesterday I want to modify some file thanks to it and vim displays bad polish fonts from this file. What is a reason of this behavor? How can I repair this?
[10:20] <dpupp> im trying to get sound in tvtime through my pcmcia card... but im getting: sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy. Anyone have any ideas i can try?
[10:21] <stepanov> hi,who speak  for russian?
[10:21] <wastrel> !ru
[10:21] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[10:21] <wastrel> !pl
[10:21] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:21] <PhilH> do any of you lot play tremulous?
[10:22] <stepanov> thanks
[10:22] <opexoc> wastrel: I know I can... but noone can help me.
[10:23] <dpupp> Does anyone know how to kill all applications using sound?
[10:23] <cope_oz> can someone tell me what packages i need to get my ADSL installed? is it just pppoe?
[10:23] <cope_oz> and ppoeconf
[10:25] <frandavid100> hi
[10:25] <PhilH> opexoc, is it possible that the charset/character coding was altered when you saved the file?
[10:25] <frandavid100> could you tell me your opinion about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257120
[10:26] <frandavid100> I'd like the drive applet to be on the panel by default
[10:26] <frandavid100> do you think that's worth a spec?
[10:26] <holycow> frandavid100, wtf?
[10:26] <holycow> right click, eject
[10:26] <holycow> how hard can it be
[10:26] <holycow> you haveto do that on windows too
[10:26] <holycow> only there it takes 10 clicks
[10:27] <frandavid100> yeah it's easy
[10:27] <PhilH> but not necessarily obvious
[10:27] <opexoc> PhilH: I have not modyfied and saved this file... In first time it was displayed wrong...
[10:27] <frandavid100> but I've seen many people coming from windows have trouble finding it
[10:27] <PhilH> there should be a dialogue when the displayed the first time the device is mounted warning that they need to unmount it
[10:27] <holycow> what are we supposed to do ... magically impart knowledge on them?
[10:27] <frandavid100> it would be more obvious to have it on the panel
[10:28] <frandavid100> handier too, since you have access to it anytime
[10:28] <holycow> you know, even two click things have the requirement that th euser is WILLING to learn new things, thus ask questions, explore
[10:28] <holycow> how would that be more obvious?
[10:28] <PhilH> this dialogue should appear every time they plug in a USB mass storage device until they click on the do not show again check box
[10:28] <frandavid100> but I'm thinking about newcomers basically
[10:28] <holycow> you are just moving it from one place to another
[10:28] <holycow> its not obvious, its just the same thing in a different spot
[10:28] <holycow> plus it breaks the paradigm
[10:28] <holycow> 'magically appears on desktop'
[10:28] <frandavid100> what paradigm?
[10:29] <haffe> Hello.
[10:29] <holycow> all of a suddent you have some devices appearing on desktop others on a panel
[10:29] <PhilH> frandavid100, those last few messages were directed at you
[10:29] <holycow> then someone is going to suggest to bring back ythe disk mounter applet
[10:29] <PhilH> opexoc, how does less display it?
[10:29] <holycow> the problem is basically this: images are worth a thousand words AND user s DON'T READ
[10:30] <frandavid100> well having it on a panel doesn't necessarily mean taking it out from the desktop
[10:30] <haffe> Could somebody help me with my problem? I want to play a dvd (which I have purchased) in kaffeine, but kaffeine keeps complaining that the disc is encrypted, despite the fact that I have installed libdcss.
[10:30] <holycow> so what that basically means is that, they wont read it if you have something explaining it, they wont interpret it righ tno matter what icon you have
[10:30] <holycow> and
[10:30] <holycow> if you have users like mine
[10:30] <loudmouthman> holycow: your right ... I wonder if we could use Milla as the background to some of the system applets .. this might encourage users to look harder !
[10:30] <holycow> IF YOU DON'T PHRASE IT RIGHT, they won't listen to you either
[10:30] <opexoc> PhilH: It displays this file even worse...
[10:30] <loudmouthman> or take a harder look !
[10:30] <holycow> and then you have users that you know, cannot remember what a right click is 3 minutes after you told them
[10:30] <PhilH> opexoc, and if you open it with gedit?
[10:31] <holycow> so basically, you are making some broad assumptions about a species that is VERY BADLY engineered
[10:31] <holycow> our brains just don't work very well
[10:31] <opexoc> PhilH: the same problem.
[10:31] <ClayG> anyone know of a good tabbed web broser that can be used i the CLI
[10:31] <frandavid100> besides, the applet doesn't even require a right-click, which is totally unknown to many users I know (my mother, my gf...)
[10:31] <PhilH> holycow, if you bug them with a message enough times and put hurdles in to prevent them from bypassing it without reading the message then you can at least be sure it's not your fault when they lose data
[10:32] <holycow> oh yes great
[10:32] <ClayG> or a good standalone email cleint that can function without setting up an MTA
[10:32] <opexoc>  PhilH: generally, I can use polish fonts, but this file is reading bad. It file which was downloaded. It is not mine.
[10:32] <ClayG> similiar to how thunderbird works
[10:32] <holycow> thats just f'n brilliant
[10:32] <holycow> lets just do what vista is going to do
[10:32] <holycow> or what zonealarm does
[10:32] <holycow> which is nothing
[10:32] <frandavid100> the desktop requires a right- click and then gives you lots of options
[10:32] <holycow> people don't read popups, they just click okay on them
[10:32] <RobHu> How do I get update-modules to work, I looked at the script and it wants to call update-modules.modutils which is not there. Any idea how to get it?
[10:32] <PhilH> holycow, if you don't give them to option to just click ok then you can force them to pay attention
[10:33] <PhilH> opexoc, can i download the file too?
[10:33] <holycow> PhilH, dude please :) your now making stuff up.  they they will smash their mice complaining why they cannot ignore the popup :)
[10:33] <MattJ100> lol
[10:34] <holycow> PhilH, the basic problem is free will ... you cannot box a user into a corner where they don't have a choice ... you can maybe take the choice away ... but all three options result with irritated users
[10:34] <PhilH> holycow, it at least gives those users who are willing to read the message a fighting chance of working with usb-massstorage without losing data
[10:34] <holycow> give em choice they complain.  box em in to a right choice they complain.  take away choice they complain
[10:34] <opexoc> PhilH: It is a some piece of source of some program... so I can send you this text file. ok?
[10:34] <holycow> your solving a problem that has no solution.
[10:34] <PhilH> opexoc, by all means try, not sure if it'll work
[10:34] <holycow> PhilH, what, you mean like those of us in this channel?
[10:34] <holycow> we are a special breed
[10:35] <holycow> our learning styles are designed to allow for complex data interaction
[10:35] <holycow> we aren't afraid of 'new'
[10:35] <holycow> most of the earths population is not however
[10:35] <holycow> well half true
[10:35] <holycow> kids love this stuff, their brains are designed to assimilate all information
[10:35] <winjer> anyone got any reports of the dapper netboot not working on some laptops?
[10:35] <PhilH> holycow, if you're concerned about users complaining then give up now, i'm concerned about helping them handle data on USB disks without losing data!
[10:35] <holycow> but as adults those metnal pathways are discarded, until you become you
[10:36] <holycow> that is to say, most people are data xenophobes
[10:36] <xopher> sorry going a bit off topic, but does anyone know the opposite of innovation?
[10:36] <opexoc> PhilH: do you have it?
[10:36] <PhilH> yes
[10:36] <holycow> PhilH, i'm only concerned about solving the problem in the right way
[10:36] <PhilH> opexoc, yes
[10:36] <holycow> the right way is not what you guys are suggestion
[10:36] <holycow> the right way is actually this, and its proven in studies:
[10:36] <holycow> - people don't learn the 'metadata' about interfaces
[10:37] <PhilH> oh holycow, venerable and reveered holycow, tell us how we might solve the problem
[10:37] <holycow> - people learn the POSITION of the iconography
[10:37] <holycow> what that means is NOT is it easy BUT is it familiar
[10:37] <zoidberg> holycow, i disabled the NVIDIA card....now i'm just trying to get my onboard card to work but i get the same blue screen...i think my xorg.conf got messed up
[10:37] <holycow> or ... is it HOW THEY REMEMBER IT
[10:37] <holycow> right?
[10:37] <zoidberg> can i run the xorg.conf setup again
[10:37] <holycow> PhilH, you can't solve the problem, its  self recursive loop of frustration bro
[10:38] <zoidberg> holycow, i just want it to run the original onboard Intel card thats it
[10:38] <holycow> i'm just telling you how users learn uis... they don't learn them they memorize them
[10:38] <PhilH> holycow, even if you can't solve it you can help the users become less affected by it
[10:38] <holycow> it doesn't matter if its an icon or a panel or whatever
[10:38] <RobHu> If I have "alias xennet eth0" where do I put that? There is no modules.conf and update-modules does nothing :/
[10:38] <holycow> what they want to do is learn it once,then repeat it
[10:38] <PhilH> opexoc, Operator porwnujcy. Sprawdza tosamo obiektw, mangled?
[10:38] <holycow> learning hurts them, they don't want to do it
[10:39] <zoidberg> holycow, please help me...i just want my old intell onboard video card to work...how do i run the xorg setup
[10:39] <holycow> PhilH, that statement simply suggests to me that you are solving the wrong problem
[10:39] <PhilH> holycow, you really DO NOT have a helpful attitude
[10:39] <holycow> your attached to a solution that really is in search of a problem
[10:39] <holycow> PhilH, i may be beligerent, but beligernce is not necessarily unhelpfull
[10:39] <holycow> i'm fine if you don't like me :)
[10:39] <MattJ100> reconfigure xorg.conf:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:39] <MattJ100> I think
[10:40] <holycow> zoidberg, what he said
[10:40] <opexoc>  PhilH: yes.
[10:40] <PhilH> holycow, the solution would maybe be to cause files to be written to the device as and when the user asks them to, rather than when the device is unmounted
[10:40] <holycow> PhilH, no that was discussed on many usb newsgroups
[10:40] <MattJ100> There should be no caching when witing to USB disks :P
[10:40] <holycow> to autowrite to the flash device and unmount transparently for the user
[10:41] <zoidberg> holycow, what driver do i select for the onboard INTEL video card?
[10:41] <holycow> i forget what the exact argument was, but it turns out it is a veyh bad idea, primarily it has to do with not wanting to damage or shorten th elife span of the usb stick accidentally
[10:41] <zoidberg> holycow, what driver do i select for the onboard INTEL video card?
[10:41] <holycow> that still doesn't change the numbers though
[10:41] <holycow> us techies that learn the metadata in the ui are few and far between
[10:42] <holycow> most of the population memorizes the ui
[10:42] <user-land> hello, i installed ubuntu 6.06.1 now and ran easyubuntu, but still when i insert a dvd totem opens but then says the necessary plugins are not installed ...
[10:42] <zoidberg> holycow, please help me i'm justr trying to get my computer working the way it used to
[10:42] <zoidberg> holycow, what driver do i select for the onboard INTEL video card?
[10:42] <holycow> the reason you get people complaining about gimp or oo, is simply because they don't realize that they are uisng the wrong learning the strategy
[10:42] <dpupp> how do i stop all applications from using audio?
[10:42] <PhilH> holycow, then notifying the user that there is a procedure to be followed is the next best option, i don't see a reason why you shouldn't notify the user of this, even if there is a likelihood that they will ignore it
[10:42] <holycow> the complaints about gimp and oo almost 99% of the time is because it doesn't map to the users mental map of the other apps ... they fail to apply the 'need to learn' part because its hard work
[10:43] <holycow> as an example
[10:43] <holycow> PhilH, i'm not against that at all
[10:43] <zoidberg> holycow, PLEASE help me......what driver should i select for the oboard INTEL card?
[10:43] <opexoc> PhilH: what do you think about this file?
[10:43] <PhilH> holycow, THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN SUGGESTING!!!
[10:43] <erUSUL> zoidberg: usually i810
[10:43] <erUSUL> !caps
[10:43] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:43] <holycow> PhilH, infact that is a pretty good idea ... if we keep the paradigm the same (remember change is bad) but we add on to it, i could say thats cool
[10:43] <PhilH> that's what you're been arguing pointedly against!
[10:43] <PhilH> you've^
[10:44] <dpupp> is there a terminal command to end all applications from using audi?
[10:44] <holycow> PhilH, i admit that its possible that i misudnerstood :)
[10:44] <holycow> but then i assumed the same of yo u:)
[10:44] <PhilH> holycow, there's belligerent and there's down right ignorant...
[10:44] <holycow> zoidberg, sec
[10:44] <holycow> PhilH, no, thats just you being a hater not a lover :)
[10:45] <PhilH> opexoc, sorry, tied up with something rather pointless
[10:45] <holycow> zoidberg, hard to say .. for intel vesa will work by default
[10:45] <THX-1138> Hi!  - If you two can't play nice together we are going to seperate you. -  lol
[10:45] <holycow> zoidberg, to be on the safe side, i would use that,then research our chipset and find out which module to select
[10:45] <holycow> probably i810 or whatever it is
[10:45] <holycow> and then just reconfigure your exserver and restart gdm to test
[10:45] <holycow> you can always go back to vesa as failsafe
[10:45] <PhilH> it appears that the file doesn't use the correct encoding to maintain the charachters used in the polish comments,  i don't think there's much you can do :(
[10:46] <holycow> pretty cool that your system still works when your vid driver is borked, eh?
[10:46] <MattJ100> Ok, I came here for help too
[10:46] <holycow> sure just ask
[10:46] <MattJ100> I've got the fglrx vs mesa problem
[10:47] <holycow> reinstall
[10:47] <PhilH> so, holycow, just to round off this dicus.....ument. do you now get the gist of my suggestion?
[10:47] <holycow> ?_>
[10:47] <jazzrocker> can i get grub to boot windows if windows is on /dev/hdb1 ?
[10:47] <MattJ100> What's the poing, I only just installed yesterday :)
[10:47] <MattJ100> *point
[10:47] <THX-1138> jazz - certainly you can.
[10:48] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, hmmm, so what would i use for grub, it says "unknown filesystem type"
[10:48] <holycow> PhilH, well if it was something like a helper icon in the panel
[10:48] <user-land> what do you use to watch a DVD ?
[10:48] <holycow> say of a food server in a tux holing up a platter
[10:48] <holycow> and popups offering suggestions based on what you are doing
[10:48] <THX-1138> It is possible to use ntloader to boot ubuntu also - tho that takes a lot more effort than using grub
[10:48] <holycow> i think that would be okay as long as we don't change the base behaviours
[10:48] <THX-1138> !grub
[10:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:48] <PhilH> i'm talking about a very large dialogue that pops up upon insertion of the device, quite possibly acompanied by a helper icon in the panel
[10:48] <holycow> that could be integrated into the help system, the wiki and the community as well
[10:49] <THX-1138> (suddenly looks confused falls back 5 yards and punts.)
[10:49] <holycow> and it could be also integrated int simplified 'linux 101' kind of tutorials
[10:49] <holycow> we are building our own tutorials for our staff via lcms... we were infact thinking about somethign similar
[10:49] <holycow> you could set the helper to novice, intermediate and shut the f up of course
[10:49] <holycow> :)
[10:50] <THX-1138> "lcms" = ?landing craft medium"?
[10:50] <PhilH> oooh, aren't you a helper, do you have that last setting? ;)
[10:50] <holycow> learning content management system
[10:50] <THX-1138> j/k
[10:50] <THX-1138> Ah, cool
[10:50] <MattJ100> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[10:50] <MattJ100> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[10:50] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, see i've got two disks, both 120G
[10:50] <PhilH> no, lazy crayfish massage service
[10:50] <holycow> zoidberg, i'm gonna crash soon, everythin goin okay?
[10:51] <balor> Is Xgl or aiglx the preferred option for Edgy?
[10:51] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, i installed Ubuntu on one with just that disk in the system as master. then i installed windows on the other with just that disk in the system as master
[10:51] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, so now i'm trying to boot my windows disk
[10:51] <opexoc> PhilH: ok thx...
[10:51] <zoidberg> one sec holycow
[10:51] <zoidberg> just one sec
[10:51] <PhilH> opexoc, i wish i could help further
[10:51] <holycow> balor, aiglx will probably be the default everywhere except suse and some bastard distros ... i thinkt hats whats happening in edgy too
[10:51] <balor> holycow: thanks
[10:52] <zoidberg> holycow, i hear the drumroll when the ubuntu login screen starts but i only see a BLUE BOX saying "Out of Scan Range"?
[10:52] <holycow> zoidberg, oh that may actually be your problem
[10:52] <holycow> lol!
[10:52] <holycow> well no not on nvidia
[10:52] <holycow> but this is easy
[10:52] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, this is what i have in grub.conf http://pastebin.ca/169971
[10:52] <jazzrocker> er, menu.1st
[10:52] <holycow> look up your monitor on the internet, and find the vertical and horizontal refresh rates
[10:52] <holycow> when you find them, put them into your xorg.conf file
[10:53] <holycow> somewhere along the line it input the wrong refresh rates ... maybe didn't properly detect your moni
[10:53] <zoidberg> but it was working fine before for the Intel card...that is what i'm trying to wrk here?
[10:53] <holycow> that will fix that
[10:53] <kendals> How do I get Opera 9 to make torrents START? I have the port set up and Opera says the port is good, but then it sits there in 'Transfers' with a torrent, and doesn't download or upload, despite heaps of seeds and peers!)?
[10:53] <holycow> zoidberg, it got changed somewhere while you were fiddling
[10:53] <THX-1138> jazzrocker - if your bios is set to boot from the first disk - lets say for example linux. if the /boot/grub directory is intact and the mbr is still set from the linux install you should be fine edit grub -  the windows partition as bootable.
[10:54] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, windows is on a comnpletely separate disk
[10:54] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, not just a separate partition... it's on slave for channel IDE channel 1
[10:54] <PhilH> jazzrocker, doesn't matter, grub can still boot it
[10:55] <jazzrocker> PhilH, ok, wonder why i got the filesystem error then
[10:55] <jazzrocker> but that's a random wild guess
[10:55] <jazzrocker> hehehe, i'm not making informed decisions here lol
[10:55] <THX-1138> the windows partition looks odd to me. - if it is xp. (it is xp isn't it?) the restore parttion or 7mbs of xp utils use the first partitions. -
[10:56] <zoidberg> holycow, now where do i find the refresh rateS?
[10:56] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, uhhh, i dunno, there is always 8m at the end
[10:56] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, yes it's XP
[10:56] <holycow> HorizSync
[10:57] <holycow> VertRefresh
[10:57] <holycow> xorg.conf
[10:57] <konrad1207> helo all, I have a problem with virtual terminals, when I try open lynx in terminal I got a message "Error opening terminal: xterm"
[10:57] <ahbe> hi all
[10:57] <jazzrocker> PhilH, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows works fine
[10:57] <zoidberg> holycow, i mean where do i find the refresh rates for my monitor on the web?
[10:57] <jazzrocker> PhilH, so i know it's mountable
[10:58] <holycow> zoidberg, google
[10:58] <THX-1138> jazzrocker - fdisk -l   or gparted will show your partitions - from there i would use the samples shown in the link ubotu has.
[10:58] <THX-1138> !grub
[10:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:59] <THX-1138> apologies for not being more helpful.
[10:59] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, uhhh i read that link on the recovering one
[10:59] <kendals> 	How do I get Opera 9 to make torrents START? I have the port set up and Opera says the port is good, but then it sits there in 'Transfers' with a torrent, and doesn't download or upload, despite heaps of seeds and peers!)?
[10:59] <zoidberg> holycow, i think i'm fucked
[10:59] <jazzrocker> THX-1138, that's all for installing grub if your windows parition has overridden
[10:59] <zoidberg> i cant find it
[10:59] <ahbe> Help! Have a persisting problem with apt-get. Works with dhcp, but not with static ip. Access to inet is ok for both. dhcp has proxy, static ip not (afaik).
[10:59] <zoidberg> holycow, is there anything i can do to fix this?
[11:00] <holycow> zoidberg, yes, just find the refresh rates
[11:00] <holycow> input, restart gdm
[11:00] <holycow> done
[11:01] <holycow> if you get that error, its good, driver is working, its sending a signal to yoru moni
[11:01] <holycow> just at the wrong frequencies
[11:01] <konrad1207> holycow could you have a look at my problem?
[11:01] <zoidberg> but i cant FIND THE REFRESH RATES!!! i think i'm fucked
[11:01] <neil> I have GTk GUI I am useing a toggle button to indicate a program state, does anyone know how to make it ignore being clicked?
[11:01] <holycow> konrad1207, not sure, just ask
[11:01] <DBO> zoidberg, language
[11:01] <konrad1207> I asked
[11:02] <holycow> zoidberg, why not? what monitor do you ahve?
[11:02] <NthDegree> zoidberg, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think
[11:02] <konrad1207> ok, I will ask again
[11:02] <DBO> zoidberg, run this command, sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[11:02] <konrad1207>  I have a problem with virtual terminals, when I try open lynx in terminal I got a message "Error opening terminal: xterm"
[11:02] <NthDegree> i think it's that to reconfigure X and it ASKS FOR REFRESH RATES
[11:02] <holycow> konrad1207, i don't know the answer to that, sorry, stick around someone will wake up and will know
[11:02] <DBO> zoidberg, if your monitor can tell you refresh rates, that command will get it
[11:02] <konrad1207> ok
[11:03] <zoidberg> holycow, it is a Gateway 2000 vivitron monitor
[11:03] <konrad1207> that's really annoying
[11:03] <Dani-buntu> any multisync users here?
[11:03] <holycow> zoidberg, you should easily be able to google that
[11:03] <PhilH> holycow, it's actually surprisingly difficult to find that kind of data on the web, especially if your monitor is of some obscure make
[11:03] <THX-1138> zoidberg - the FCC number and a quick search of FCC.gov will give you exact rates.   (using a low default number won't damage your monitor.)
[11:03] <holycow> PhilH, maybe, so far i've not found a monitor i couldn't google ... mayb ei have way too much time on my hands
[11:03] <ahbe> Help! Have a persisting problem with apt-get. Works with dhcp, but not with static ip. Access to inet is ok for both. dhcp has proxy, static ip not (afaik).
[11:03] <PhilH> ok, so Gateway 2000 sounds like it should be easier though
[11:04] <holycow> ahbe, did you setup up your gateway properly?
[11:04] <holycow> is your gatweay a router that handles dns? if not you may need to input dns settings as well
[11:04] <holycow> !dns
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <THX-1138> !bind
[11:05] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (dapper), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[11:05] <THX-1138> pfft!
[11:05] <Nameeater> what could be a reason ubuntu cant detect a network card I know debian detected? :/
[11:06] <THX-1138> Nameeater - WiFi or wired card?
[11:06] <Nameeater> ethernet PCI
[11:07] <usuarioMadrile> Eshter
[11:07] <THX-1138> Nameeater - sudo lspci will show you the manufacturer id string and lsmod will show you what the kernel has loaded. - i know just enough to be dangerous...
[11:07] <holycow> HorizSync 31-70
[11:07] <holycow> VertRefresh 50-75
[11:08] <holycow> that doesn't look right but you can try those zoidberg
[11:08] <Nameeater> not a thing :|
[11:08] <THX-1138> google any likely match to narrow the possiblities for the driver you need.
[11:08] <holycow> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~kellyann/desktop/monitorspecs.html
[11:08] <holycow> there is another page
[11:08] <usuarioMadrile> Ester cobo avalos
[11:08] <phillipc> is there a good lightweight editor for ruby on gnome? I'd like to use something like gedit, but I don't think gedit can do indentation
[11:08] <holycow> donno, took a few seconds to find some candidates
[11:09] <holycow> hoepfully those are your models
[11:09] <churrimandurri> buenos dias a todo el mundo
[11:09] <usuarioMadrile> Asprogrades
[11:09] <THX-1138> sudo lspci     ls = list   pci =  pci bus   lsmod = list loaded kernel modules.
[11:10] <Nameeater> aye, but it prints nothing at all
[11:10] <Nameeater> maybe I've broken the card
[11:10] <THX-1138> !ethernet
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <THX-1138> !ubotu you are an Amnesiac
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you are an Amnesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <ti2net> hello
[11:11] <frying_fish> anyone else having problems with checkinstall 1.6.0 in that you can't alter the "requires" options, so it fails on trying to build the package as its put some weird defaults of "%{name}_ foo" in it?
[11:11] <kling0n> any way to test, if my "super" button (windows button) is working correctly?
[11:12] <THX-1138> !ubotu ethernet is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87643
[11:12] <ti2net> I have a problem installing ubuntu on an emac
[11:12] <ti2net> somebody can help me ?????
[11:12] <aussiedini> join #ubuntu-au
[11:12] <ti2net> HELP
[11:15] <holycow> zoidberg, any luck?
[11:16] <AbortD> is there a p2p program out for ubuntu and not involving torrents?
[11:16] <AbortD> !p2p
[11:16] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[11:17] <AbortD> !frostwire
[11:17] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:17] <THX-1138> holycow - aw zoidberg left.
[11:17] <holycow> THX-1138, indeed
[11:17] <holycow> THX-1138, i found a great great article today that crystalized all my experience with users thus far
[11:18] <holycow> lemme see if i can find it
[11:18] <THX-1138> holycow - Dilbert?
[11:18] <ti2net> Hello poeple, I really need help, I tryed the UBUNTU livecd mon my emac, it boots fine, I even heard the chime but the screen is black
[11:18] <THX-1138> j/k - i was trying to be funny
[11:19] <neil> I have GTk GUI I am useing a toggle button to indicate a program state, does anyone know how to make it ignore being clicked?
[11:19] <THX-1138> ti2net - i don't have an answer. would ubotu have a helpful link?
[11:20] <maddin> hello everyone!
[11:20] <THX-1138> !macintosh
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macintosh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <THX-1138> !mac
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <holycow> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15811
[11:20] <Mase> hey all
[11:20] <alucard> oh man
[11:20] <alucard> i just installed ubuntu today.. any tips
[11:21] <holycow> i disagree with the authors assumption about the distribution of particular learning styles
[11:21] <Mase> wondering how i get the smb shares on the desktop to be seen from inside gimp
[11:21] <holycow> but he is dead on as to where we are right now
[11:21] <holycow> thats not to say someone cannot fulfill what he predicts is required, infact i guess ubuntu is trying to do it intelligently
[11:21] <Mase> alucard: what kind of tips ?
[11:22] <maddin> i got some problems in installing a shared windows printer with ubuntu. can anyone give me some tips, please?
[11:22] <holycow> but i think we will need to at a certain point stand back and go 'okay, lets divide up the herd and really understand who we are going after'
[11:22] <alucard> well...installing macromedia would help
[11:22] <PhilH> holycow, from the article it sounds like he's had his head in a bucket of sand since mandrake 7
[11:22] <holycow> some demographics just aren't worth going after imho
[11:22] <alucard> i'm so happy with this os
[11:22] <THX-1138> holycow - so true. - making linux fit like a glove is one of it's many attractions but not something for everyone.
[11:22] <Mase> alucard: what is macromedia ?
[11:22] <alucard> flash..
[11:23] <holycow> PhilH, i agree only up to a point .. i think his assumption is too narrow but the basic idea is correct
[11:23] <PhilH> he doesn't seem to grasp the that that Desktop Linux is evolving almost entirely to suit the needs of the idiot at the moment
[11:23] <holycow> we are NOT realizing learning styles is the key
[11:23] <holycow> THX-1138, yup.  it just became so clear after reading this
[11:23] <PhilH> holycow, who is we?
[11:23] <Mase> alucard: check out the macromedia web site. i don't think flash is foss software so i doubt it ships in ubuntu
[11:23] <holycow> users don't really care.  its not what the tool does for them
[11:23] <theshibboleth> Right now I have a Samba and a Netatalk share hosted on a computer running Ubntu that can be accessed over a wireless LAN. I would like to access either of these shares from a client computer connected with FireWire. How do I do this?
[11:23] <holycow> its what the tool does in a familiar fashion
[11:24] <alucard> yeah there are some tips on the manual install but it said that it should auto install on the ubuntu wiki but it didn't work
[11:24] <holycow> its 'familiarity' that drives the entire purchasing process for a rather large segment
[11:24] <PhilH> ....... who are WE?
[11:24] <holycow> PhilH, blanket statement ... perhaps a better way of phrasing it is we aren't doing the requisite market research and figuring out the various subdemographics
[11:25] <PhilH> followed by another WHO ARE WE?
[11:25] <holycow> PhilH, clearly not you.
[11:25] <PhilH> obviously not
[11:25] <holycow> why do you even bother talking to me? you knkow i won't make your life easy
[11:25] <holycow> and your not bright enough to really put me in my place either :)
[11:25] <PhilH> you can't expect to speak for the research departments of every single linux distribution in existence
[11:25] <cafuego> Mary Tyler Moore!
[11:26] <opexoc> Does anybody recommend some vimrc file on internet which will be good to read/modify "c" and "cpp" files?
[11:26] <holycow> PhilH, sure, but your just being pedantic for no particular reason
[11:26] <THX-1138> cafuego - Heya!  - can you help theshib with his networking question?
[11:26] <theshibboleth> So basically, how do I manually set an IP address for a netwrok device?
[11:26] <ptenf> Hi all. I think I found a problem with the libdbd-mysql-perl package in dapper. I refuses to let me connect to a mysql database through perl, always gives me access denied. If someone could doublecheck this I can report it. If you need a perl script to connect with send me a pm
[11:27] <holycow> theshibboleth, syhstem / admint /networking
[11:27] <cafuego> THX-1138: Not currently, I'm about to be whisked away to dinner.
[11:27] <PhilH> holycow, no, i'm really not, i'm trying to make you understand that WE as a whole are probably not missing the point, you may feel Ubuntu is but that's not to say that it's the same story with every linux distribution
[11:27] <THX-1138> theshib - Ah Okay, - psst thank you for keeping ubotu healthy.
[11:28] <THX-1138> er - cafuego i meant to say.
[11:28] <cafuego> THX-1138: not mine anymore
[11:28] <cafuego> not for ages
[11:29] <THX-1138> cafuego - You made him indespensable
[11:29] <tristan__> hi all
[11:29] <ti2net> getting crazy
[11:30] <AbortD> !frostwire
[11:30] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:30] <PhilH> either he's writing a small essay to explain why i'm wrong and the latest flamebait article to hit OSnews is perfectly valid or, and i'm not expecting this to be the case but i suppose we can hope, he's shut up
[11:30] <holycow> PhilH, lol, your so easy to bait
[11:30] <holycow> its too fun to shutup
[11:30] <holycow> why would i EVERY do that?
[11:31] <PhilH> why would you EVERY do that?
[11:31] <ti2net> gtk-gnutella
[11:31] <holycow> i recommend you use your purdy little ignore button, you know, since i really never asked you to talk to me in the first place
[11:31] <ti2net> nobody knows about ubuntu on emac ?
[11:31] <ti2net> :'(
[11:31] <PhilH> ti2net, i sent you a query
[11:32] <THX-1138> ti2net - It sounds like you are very close too. - you heard the system chime and everything.
[11:32] <ti2net> ???
[11:33] <ti2net> it boots fine but no display :|
[11:34] <Mystic8277> does anyone know where ScummVM installs to by default?
[11:34] <vbgunz> I am trying to build monodevelop... I built all source packages but am getting stuck on the final package... I am getting this error: Can't find "gmcs" in your PATH
[11:34] <vbgunz> any one know what this means?
[11:35] <tdn> How do I enable the rsync daemon? Right now I can only run rsync over SSH. I am on a trusted network and would like to run rsync without the SSH overhead.
[11:35] <alucard> oh man i thought you said n'syn
[11:35] <alucard> c
[11:35] <holycow> alucard, hehe
[11:35] <holycow> nsync daemon
[11:35] <holycow> indeed
[11:35] <theshibboleth> What I'm trying to do with FireWire networking doesn't seem to be working. Is there a how-to somewhere?
[11:35] <THX-1138> ti2net - let me say first i don't own a mac. - Can you still boot OS 10? - i wonder if you might peek at the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and compare it to others in the ubuntu forum
[11:36] <opexoc> Could anybody show me where can I download some vimrc file which allow to colour the syntax of languages as C or C++ or Bash scripts... ?
[11:36] <ti2net> Yeah, I boot OS 10, the problem with ubuntu seems to be xorg
[11:36] <tdn> I have tried starting the rsync daemon by writing /etc/init.d/rsync start, but it has no /etc/rsync.conf. Why is there no default /etc/rsync.conf?
[11:37] <vbgunz> I am trying to build monodevelop... I am getting this error: Can't find "gmcs" in your PATH
[11:37] <vbgunz> can someone help!?
[11:37] <vbgunz> heh sorry for the !
[11:38] <xopher> vbgunz, well you might not have all the dependencies satisfied
[11:38] <ootput> are you _really_ sorry?
[11:39] <xopher> try running apt-get build-dep monodevelop
[11:40] <vbgunz> xopher: I did this and followed the order in which to build the 5 packages: sudo apt-get build-dep [1|2|3|4] ... they all seemed to go through without error... *but* when I got to the last package monodevelop itself, I got that error
[11:41] <PhilH> opexoc, have you tried the syntax on command?
[11:41] <Kanzie> anyone knows where I can update the kernel to support dual-core easily? I have Dapper
[11:42] <AbortD> how do i uninstall a .deb?
[11:42] <JoseStefan> !info linux-686-smp
[11:42] <ubotu> linux-686-smp: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:42] <xopher> vbgunz, what do you mean? the build-dep command gets the dependencies required to build a program. then you need to apt-get source -b monodevelop
[11:42] <erUSUL> !kernel > Kanzie
[11:42] <vbgunz> AbortD: sudo apt-ger get remove debname
[11:42] <DexterF> hi
[11:42] <AbortD> vbgunz: thanks
[11:42] <JoseStefan> Kanzie find that package in synaptic
[11:42] <xopher> AbortD, apt-get remove, not apt-ger ;)
[11:42] <opexoc> PhilH: ha! you are right... but it is not exactly what I want, because I want to have numerated every line... Do you know how can I do it?
[11:43] <vbgunz> heh, yeah, listen to xopher :)
[11:43] <vbgunz> xopher, I'll try that..
[11:43] <maddin> can anybody tell me what it means when i get the error message "nt_status_access_denied" when i try to connect a windows shared network printer with ubuntu?
[11:43] <Kanzie> erUSUL: But the plain install of dapper does not configure the kernel for dual-core does it?
[11:43] <AbortD> lol
[11:43] <THX-1138> kanzie - there are preconfigured kernels  look for one with the suffix  linux-smp   symetric multiprocessor
[11:43] <Kanzie> linux-smp got it
[11:43] <JoseStefan> Kanzie linux-686-smp
[11:44] <PhilH> opexoc, set number ?
[11:44] <erUSUL> Kanzie: in teory yes, they have a patch called smp alternatives that let the kernel detect at runtime an smp systemand run in "dual core" mode or y up if there is only one cpu
[11:44] <THX-1138> what was that command that uses uname to grab the right kernel?
[11:45] <AbortD> it's telling me it cant find the file
[11:45] <vbgunz> xopher:  'cd monodevelop-0.10 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed... I am doomed :\
[11:45] <vbgunz> heh
[11:45] <xopher> AbortD, dont put the .deb there, put the packagename, eg gnome-screensaver not gnome-screensaver_1324.12-ubntu.dev
[11:46] <xopher> *deb
[11:46] <AbortD> k
[11:46] <opexoc> PhilH: I will try...
[11:46] <xopher> AbortD, if you dont know the exact name you can try searching: apt-cache search packagename
[11:46] <erUSUL> THX-1138: uname -r
[11:46] <vbgunz> AbortD: you're probably using a different name... try looking for the package in Synaptic. You can remove it from Synaptic *but* also, you can get the right name if you wish
[11:46] <AbortD> saying it couldnt find frostwire
[11:46] <xopher> AbortD, and you can use synaptic for this too
[11:46] <AspireRC_> 
[11:47] <xopher> for a graphical interface
[11:47] <JoseStefan> !frostfire
[11:47] <vbgunz> 
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frostfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <erUSUL> !cn
[11:47] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:47] <JoseStefan> oops
[11:47] <JoseStefan> !frostwire
[11:47] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:47] <AbortD> thanks all
[11:47] <xopher> vbgunz, theres no debianized version of that?
[11:47] <AbortD>  i wish i could find a decent p2p
[11:48] <elkbuntu> guys, how can i get openoffice to not die when using an asian language pack? it's getting annoying to get screenshots for someone when i cant even understand the errors :P
[11:48] <mneptok> dum dee dee
[11:48] <PhilH> opexoc, any luck with :set number ?
[11:48] <xopher> and vbgunz, the 0.10 is in the repos?
[11:48] <AbortD> !p2p
[11:48] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[11:48] <vbgunz> xopher, not official
[11:48] <AbortD> !GTK-Gnutella
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GTK-Gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <JoseStefan> no ed2k?
[11:49] <JoseStefan> !ed2k
[11:49] <vbgunz> xopher: I think the latest has support for cpython, at least better support (I think)
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ed2k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <xopher> ok
[11:49] <mypapit> !ntfs
[11:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:49] <opexoc> PhilH: wait...
[11:49] <AbortD> !edonkey
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <AbortD> :(
[11:50] <javiolo> hi
[11:50] <javiolo> how can I use tapes on ubuntu ?
[11:50] <JoseStefan> there are clients, just no factoids about it
[11:50] <DexterF> !help
[11:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:51] <erUSUL> javiolo: man tar ?? man cpio ?? amanda ??
[11:51] <PhilH> !microsoft
[11:51] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[11:51] <AbortD> !NVU
[11:51] <PhilH> heh
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NVU - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <vbgunz> xopher how does build source differ from build dep?
[11:51] <PhilH> !canonical
[11:51] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[11:52] <xopher> vbgunz, well apt-get source -b gets the source from the repo. so It wouldnt be the one you want..
[11:52] <xopher> but build-dep should take care of the dependencies
[11:52] <javiolo> erUSUL I never used tapes, just found a serv with tapes on it
[11:52] <vbgunz> :\
[11:52] <xopher> if you still get the same error though, yuo could try searching for the package and install it
[11:52] <xopher> whatever its name was
[11:52] <opexoc> PhilH: yee... you are right... thanks:)
[11:52] <THX-1138> elkbuntu -  strace  or /var/log/message    maybe???
[11:53] <vbgunz> am trying again... else hopefully 6.10 has it :)
[11:53] <xopher> vbgunz, gmcs?
[11:53] <vbgunz> yeah that was the error
[11:53] <THX-1138> gmacs?
[11:53] <erUSUL> javiolo: neither i, but i know that tar is Tape ARchiver....
[11:53] <vbgunz> no, gmcs
[11:53] <AbortD> is there any good webpage editors like dreamweaver?
[11:53] <PhilH> opexoc, glad i could help
[11:53] <xopher> vbgunz, theres a packaged called mono-gmcs, try installing it
[11:53] <vbgunz> ok, will try right this next failure :)
[11:53] <THX-1138> nvu - is good. never used dreamweaver before
[11:53] <javiolo> erUSUL ok how can I see if the tape is mounted ?
[11:54] <PhilH> AbortD: that's not a good webpage editor
[11:54] <holycow> AbortD, the closest you will get is quanta +
[11:54] <PhilH> AbortD: you should pick up something like bluefish or screem
[11:54] <maddin> !printer
[11:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:54] <vbgunz> xopher: hopefully just one more question... how do you search for a package from apt-get? can you do it?
[11:54] <xopher> apt-cache search
[11:54] <AbortD> yes NVU i was trying to find that
[11:54] <elkbuntu> THX-1138, how is strace supposed to help get openoffice to load up?
[11:54] <AbortD> where can i find nvu?
[11:54] <vbgunz> xopher: nice
[11:54] <holycow> but it is very crashy ... and its code preview requires that you setup apache ... because it will send the code out to apache to render out so you can view your layouts
[11:55] <DexterF> ubotu: windows printers > me
[11:55] <PhilH> AbortD: NVU is usable but WYSIWYG isn't an ideal choice for that kind of thing
[11:55] <holycow> dreamy litterally uses the ie render engine for all of dreamy, thats how they do it
[11:55] <AbortD> WYSIWYG?
[11:55] <THX-1138> elkubuntu - I was just hoping it would give you more information about what was happening.
[11:55] <PhilH> AbortD: Bluefish is excellent as an additional editor
[11:55] <dpupp> is there a way for me to set some changes to modprobe so i dont have to do it every time i boot my pc? for example, i want to do: "rmmod saa7134_alsa saa7134" ...and then... "sudo modprobe saa7134 card=1 tuner=54 oss=1" but i dont want to do that every time i boot.... ideas?
[11:55] <Almindor> why isn't webmin in packages at all? is there a particular reason or simply, nobody added it yet?
[11:55] <elkbuntu> What You See Is What You Get
[11:55] <holycow> AbortD, mostly yes, but not really you need to know code
[11:55] <DexterF> shouldn't that have told the bot to tell me about windows printers..?
[11:55] <PhilH> !WYSIWYG
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WYSIWYG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <AbortD> holycow: what are you talking about?
[11:56] <dpupp> i mean, ii dont want to do that manually... auto is good.
[11:56] <PhilH> AbortD: best not ask
[11:56] <holycow> AbortD, you asked, i answered
[11:56] <AbortD> i want nvu :(
[11:57] <holycow> its' free
[11:57] <AbortD> where is it?
[11:57] <AbortD> that is my question
[11:57] <holycow> just download and click on the binary
[11:57] <holycow> or search the repo it should be in there
[11:57] <vbgunz> is bluefish a WYSIWYG editor? I thought it was a syntax editor?
[11:57] <holycow> nope vbgunz
[11:57] <PhilH> AbortD, can you see any additional chat tabs that have appeared?
[11:57] <javiolo> !debfoster
[11:57] <ubotu> debfoster is a command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/
[11:58] <elkbuntu> THX-1138, im not ubergeeky enough to understand the output ;)
[11:58] <vbgunz> holycow: it is a syntax editor?
[11:58] <holycow> pretty much
[11:58] <vbgunz> holycow: ahh... I'll stick with SciTE?
[11:58] <THX-1138> dpupp - System - sessions - Star up programs ??
[11:58] <javiolo> !repos
[11:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:58] <holycow> well its open source, i don't see why you can't install it and try it
[11:58] <PhilH> AbortD, are you still there?
[11:59] <AbortD> yeah
[11:59] <AbortD> i msged u back
[11:59] <PhilH> ah
[11:59] <dpupp> THX modprob can be done that way?
[11:59] <AbortD> hm
[11:59] <tp76> Any idea on how to prevent SATA disks from spinning down on reboot?
[12:00] <PhilH> AbortD, open a terminal window and type
[12:00] <PhilH> sudo apt-get install nvu
[12:00] <AbortD> didnt know i could get it with apt-get :P
[12:00] <THX-1138> dpupp - erm - you caught me. - i don't know for sure. but if it works during your user session now it should work do you think?
[12:01] <dpupp> true. hmm
[12:01] <PhilH> AbortD, now do the same for bluefish
[12:01] <CyberSky> ehmm
[12:01] <AbortD> how good is bluefish?
[12:01] <mneptok> Bluefish > Nvu
[12:01] <PhilH> it's an excellent editor beginners, lots of shortcuts
[12:01] <PhilH> just install it and uninstall it if you don't like it later
[12:01] <elkbuntu> last time i used it, it had a memory leak, but i'd guarantee it's better now
[12:02] <mneptok> Nvu is WYSIWYG, Bluefish is not
[12:02] <AbortD> what is WYSIWYG?
[12:02] <PhilH> but Bluefish has lots of built in hand holding and shortcuts
[12:02] <mneptok> What You See Is What You Get
[12:02] <THX-1138> What you see is what you get
[12:02] <PhilH> What You See Is What you get
[12:02] <AbortD> oh
[12:02] <tp76> Which never really works in practice.
[12:02] <morda> hi, i'm looking for dapper livecd, can't find it here http://www.ubuntu.com/download, any ideas?
[12:02] <PhilH> indeed
[12:02] <THX-1138> Echo echo echo
[12:02] <mneptok> morda: it's there
[12:03] <tchung> I think they have combined the two into one, is that right?
[12:03] <elkbuntu> quanta+ is good if you use kde or dont mind qt libraries in gnome
[12:03] <javiolo> morda download the desktop cd, its a livecd
[12:03] <PhilH> otherwise go for Screem or Bluefish, install both so you can decide for yourself
[12:03] <mneptok> tchung: "desktop" is now the LiveCD and grpahical installer and "alternate" is what the install CD used to be
[12:03] <tchung> Thenks, mneptok
[12:03] <morda> whichone is install cd then?
[12:04] <mneptok> morda: "desktop" is now the LiveCD and graphical installer and "alternate" is what the install CD used to be
[12:04] <morda> ok, thanks for help guys
[12:05] <PhilH> !livecd
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[12:05] <Assassin5> off topic, I know but: does anyone know where I can find hardware diagrams for a Compaq Armada 100s laptop?
[12:06] <mneptok> PhilH: do you really need all this bot output or are you playing?
[12:06] <frogzoo> Assassin5: sure, google
[12:06] <PhilH> i just wanted to know if we could have asked the bot
[12:06] <mneptok> PhilH: all that stuff works in /msg, too
[12:06] <frogzoo> PhilH: you can /msg the bot & play around
[12:06] <PhilH> and, as it turns out, we could
[12:06] <PhilH> ah, will do, thanks guys
[12:06] <frogzoo> !botabuse
[12:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:07] <Assassin5> frogzoo, already tried that, only found the 110
[12:08] <alucard> oh hey
[12:08] <alucard> can i get some assistance with manual flash install
[12:08] <AbortD> move the 2 files to the plugin folder?
[12:08] <AbortD> then your done
[12:09] <mneptok> alucard: why not just install via Synaptic?
[12:09] <mneptok> (or apt-get)
[12:09] <Krpano> anyone on a Core Duo here ?
[12:09] <mneptok> Krpano: my laptop is
[12:10] <Krpano> do you have the 686 kernel installed ?
[12:10] <mneptok> no
[12:10] <mneptok> there were problems so i reverted to a stock i386
[12:10] <alucard> well I just tried to do it through mozilla
[12:10] <Krpano> what kind of prob ?
[12:10] <alucard> so I guess I could try synaptic
[12:10] <mneptok> alucard: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:11] <mneptok> Krpano: mounting the root fs at boot took more than 90 seconds
[12:11] <Krpano> mneptok, i see, for me here is ok....but i cant get the nvidia kernel module to work with the 686
[12:11] <erUSUL> javiolo: afaics, you do not mount tapes you access them with the apropiate programs (pointing them to the apropiate /dev/)
[12:12] <JoseStefan> gtg
[12:12] <alucard> I'm not sure what you're saying mneptok
[12:12] <mneptok> alucard: copy and paste that command into a terminal
[12:12] <javiolo> erUSUL ok the programs are... ?
[12:12] <alucard> then again I'm not sure that was correct grammar at all on my part, good ol' 3 am..
[12:12] <Krpano> everytime i change the default "nv" to Nvidia i get an error loading X
[12:12] <alucard> ah ok
[12:13] <mneptok> Krpano: did you install the driver?
[12:13] <dang`r`us> hello there. If I need a version of swig that is newer than the one supplied in dapper, what steps should I take?
[12:13] <Krpano> mneptok, nvidia-glx ?
[12:13] <mneptok> dang`r`us: download, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[12:13] <mneptok> Krpano: yeah, that's what i use on my desktop at home. but that's AMD64 and works well.
[12:14] <alucard> Ugh freaking terminal is asking me for a password
[12:14] <erUSUL> javiolo: http://www.ictp.trieste.it/~radionet/nuc1996/ref/howto-html/scsi-howto-8.html
[12:14] <dang`r`us> mneptok, I like my system as managed as possible - could I not pick up the edgy package?
[12:14] <dang`r`us> stuff like this works in debian, but I'm not sure how well it would in ubuntu ...
[12:14] <erUSUL> javiolo: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/tapes.html
[12:14] <Krpano> mneptok, yes its installed but it seems the 686 wont work with it....the 386 is working properly (even with XGL on it)
[12:14] <javiolo> erUSUL thanks!
[12:14] <mneptok> dang`r`us: if you are 100% positive that the new version has no dependencies absent from Dapper, i guess.
[12:15] <alucard> wtf is with the password timeout in terminal
[12:15] <alucard> it gives you like .4 seconds to write it
[12:15] <alucard> then it's like NO.
[12:15] <Krpano> mneptok, do you know if there is any performance improvement between 686 and 386  ?
[12:16] <dang`r`us> mneptok, well, apt would resolve them, question is, does that make sense ...
[12:16] <dang`r`us> oh well.
[12:16] <mneptok> Krpano: yes, as the 686 kernel takes advantage of MMX, HT, and other stuff not found in CPUs pre-Pentium
[12:16] <Krpano> arghh
[12:16] <midas> hi all
[12:16] <Krpano> so i must make it work.....:(
[12:16] <erUSUL> javiolo: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup#Using_Tapes_as_a_Backup_Media
[12:17] <mneptok> Krpano: you could try the nVidia binary blob ..
[12:17] <Krpano> mneptok what os that ?
[12:17] <Krpano> is*
[12:17] <mneptok> uhhh ... Linux?
[12:17] <Krpano> lol
[12:18] <Krpano> i got it.....:P
[12:19] <alucard> HELL YES!
[12:19] <alucard> i got it!
[12:19] <alucard> thanks guys.
[12:19] <alucard> lesson learned : I suck at linux but if I stay up till 3 am and bug people on irc, I can do it!
[12:19] <THX-1138> lol
[12:20] <Orasis1> If I install Compiz/XGL --- Will I be able to remove it .. without breaking Ubuntu? -- I know that some packages once installed.. are a pain to remove (Kde-BASE for instance), should COMPIZ/XGL install/remove like any other window manager in synaptic?
[12:20] <mneptok> alucard: if you get the Canonical night shift guy when he's bored, you're in extra luck. ;)
[12:20] <drbashir> of what package is stdlib.h part of?
[12:20] <THX-1138> alucard -going to the kitchen for another cup of coffee would you like a cup?
[12:21] <alucard> yes most definitely..
[12:21] <alucard> that's what french presses are best for
[12:21] <alucard> not sleeping.
[12:22] <mathieu> drbashir: use packages.ubuntu.com to find out
[12:22] <dpupp> how do i pass options to modprobe for a module called saa7134 to take effect every time the system boots? id like to add some options but dont know where...
[12:23] <THX-1138> XGL/Compiz seem to work but crash after only a couple of minutes.  Does anyone know why they cause system lock?
[12:24] <THX-1138> dpupp - is that a tuner card?
[12:24] <yakumo> can i share my internet connection in my other pc using windows???
[12:24] <mneptok> dpupp: /boot/grub/menu/lst
[12:25] <dpupp> card=1 tuner=43
[12:25] <mneptok> err
[12:25] <mneptok> dpupp: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:25] <dpupp> err 54
[12:25] <octan_> hi all
[12:25] <octan_> is ther a 64 bit version?
[12:25] <mneptok> octan_: no. it's only listed on the download page in order to fool people.
[12:26] <mneptok> octan_: all the downloads you see for Ubuntu/AMD64 actually result in floppy images for OS/2 2.1
[12:26] <mneptok> crazy, huh?
[12:26] <MattJ> I thought they were Windows ISOs.... doh
[12:26] <THX-1138> this has some info - http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Saa7134-alsa   - my internal tuner just picks up too much interference.
[12:26] <octan_> :P
[12:27] <alucard> man that robots game that comes with the system
[12:27] <alucard> is the weirdest fucking game ever.
[12:27] <MattJ> lol
[12:27] <ootput> are there svn snapshots of mpd for dapper?
[12:28] <alucard> what's a good radio station for rythm?
[12:28] <MattJ> xorg.0.log:
[12:28] <MattJ> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[12:28] <MattJ> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[12:28] <MattJ> I'm trying to install the fglrx drivers for ATI Radeon 9550
[12:29] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[12:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <MattJ> but the mesa drivers won't go away
[12:29] <yakumo> im using ubuntu can i share my internet connection on the other pc which run in windows???
[12:29] <whazilla> how do i fix the issue xgl has with my laptop keyboard ?
[12:29] <Ash-Fox> whazilla, what issue?
[12:29] <MattJ> Ash-Fox: I've read that page, and every forum thread there is
[12:29] <whazilla> or the issue about vmware having no display to host
[12:29] <whazilla> Ash-Fox &"'(!
[12:30] <whazilla> |@#{[^{}
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> Mattj, it worked for me.
[12:30] <MattJ> You had that same error?
[12:30] <whazilla> THOSE KEYS ARE MISSING
[12:30] <alucard> yakumo...yeah......
[12:30] <MattJ> xf86_ENODEV?
[12:30] <whazilla> on my laptop keyboard since i installed xgl
[12:30] <yakumo> can u help me how to share my internet connection?
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> whazilla, sounds like you didn't setup your keyboard correctly, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:30] <alucard> ...do you have a router..?
[12:31] <whazilla> thkx fox
[12:31] <Ash-Fox> I'm not sure if xgl is configured seperately for keyboard settings.
[12:31] <yakumo> i don't have a router but i have a switch/hub
[12:31] <alucard> usb or ethernet?
[12:31] <Ash-Fox> Then again, xgl isn't a standard package in ubuntu... So...
[12:31] <alucard> shouldnt matter
[12:31] <alucard> you should just be able to plug it in
[12:31] <elkbuntu> !xgl
[12:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:31] <alucard> and go.
[12:31] <yakumo> ethernet
[12:31] <alucard> yeah you should just be able to plug it in
[12:32] <alucard> and ride the snake
[12:32] <AbortD> is p2p impossible in ubuntu or something?
[12:32] <Ash-Fox> AbortD, ICQ works fine, and it's p2p.
[12:32] <elkbuntu> AbortD, what type of p2p are you after? gnutella network or torrenting?
[12:32] <Ash-Fox> Skype does too, and it's p2p.
[12:32] <AbortD> gnutella i cant get torrents
[12:32] <THX-1138> XGL is bleeding edge. - it should be ready for prime time soon tho. - cmpmgr is solid though.
[12:32] <yakumo> do i need to create my ubuntu as a server to share network intern
[12:32] <Alucard> shouldn't need to
[12:33] <Ash-Fox> XGL is alpha software, so don't expect it to be usable.
[12:33] <Alucard> voooooooodooooooo
[12:33] <mneptok> AbortD: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[12:33] <yakumo> i also want to network my ubuntu and windows pc
[12:33] <mneptok> AbortD: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[12:33] <AbortD> i cant download torrents
[12:33] <jokester> hi ppl. having problem with evolution. when I try to send mail (smtp) it gives an rcpt to <com> syntax error in parameter or arguments error. any ideas ?
[12:33] <yakumo> i also want to network my ubuntu and windows pc to share file
[12:33] <Alucard> how to network on linux i have no idea.
[12:33] <mneptok> AbortD: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[12:33] <PhilH> is there a package in the standard repos for JRE?
[12:33] <Alucard> I'm a linux n00000b
[12:33] <yakumo> oic
[12:33] <yakumo> thnks
[12:33] <AbortD> mneptok: why bittornado?
[12:34] <DJGummikuh> hey in /proc what does "loadavg" have for the last 2 values?
[12:34] <erUSUL> PhilH: yes
[12:34] <mneptok> PhilH: Multiverse, iirc. maybe Universe
[12:34] <erUSUL> !java > PhilH
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> yakumo, open up gnome's filemanager and type in smb://<ip address of windows computer>
[12:34] <DJGummikuh> the first three are loads in 1 5 and 15 minutes but the last 2 I don't understand
[12:34] <idefix_> is it possible to run google-earth in linux already?
[12:34] <DJGummikuh> idefix_: yes
[12:34] <mneptok> AbortD: because .... uhhhh ... you want to download torrents?
[12:34] <MattJ> yakumo: Use samba for sharing files, and you need a proxy if you don't have a router
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> idefix_, yes
[12:34] <elkbuntu> how can i get openoffice to actually load with chinese or japanese language packs?
[12:34] <AbortD> i can NOT download them :)
[12:34] <tuxedup> does anyone know of any standalown clients similar to the allpeers firefox extension?  The same king of systen?
[12:34] <MattJ> The proxy needs to be on the PC with internet access
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> idefix_, you can get it from the PLF repositories for ubuntu,
[12:34] <Pyru> Im curious how using ssh/telnet (putty) to upload a directory!
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> !plf
[12:34] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[12:35] <Alucard> LMAO
[12:35] <Alucard> penguin liberation front
[12:35] <PhilH> well, i guess we should direct AbortD to the java package and the frostwire packages
[12:35] <mneptok> AbortD: if you install (that's right) BitTornado you can download torrents. unless your ISP blocks them.
[12:35] <Alucard> do they like throw molotov cocktails at microsoft offices?
[12:35] <AbortD> my isp blocks them :)
[12:35] <Alucard> Alf style.
[12:35] <mneptok> AbortD: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[12:35] <Pyru> Can someone help me I'm trying to upload a directory using putty whats the command or how i go about doing it
[12:35] <THX-1138> MattJ - Will firestarter firewall install a proxy for you?
[12:35] <AbortD> im in it now trying to figure it out ;)
[12:36] <MattJ> No idea :) I've never had to set one up on linux before
[12:36] <erUSUL> THX-1138: no
[12:36] <erUSUL> THX-1138: but it can configure inet sharing
[12:37] <erUSUL> Pyru: scp ??
[12:37] <AbortD> can i search for only audio so i dont get no anal fuck scenes and dumb shit?
[12:37] <mneptok> AbortD: RTFM
[12:37] <erUSUL> !language > AbortD
[12:37] <AbortD> RTFM?
[12:38] <Pyru> erUSUL urmmm
[12:38] <mneptok> Read The Fine Manual
[12:38] <ootput> being picky with pirated material?
[12:39] <THX-1138> Aw, - be nice guys this is #Ubuntu humanity to others channel not #Debian. - rtfm - sheesh.
[12:39] <MattJ> I'll be in #Debian soon if I don't get this graphics problem sorted
[12:40] <mneptok> THX-1138: it's also not #teach_me_to_use_p2p_apps_so_i_can_download_music
[12:40] <ootput> don't bring up "Ubuntu" while in there, mkay?
[12:40] <yakumo> can i use wine to install windows game ob ubuntu??
[12:40] <MattJ> lol, it won't be installed by the time I get there
[12:40] <dpupp> is this correct: to load a module with options one must first blacklist it, and then recall it with proper settings?
[12:40] <MattJ> It's driving me bananas, I'm sad to say
[12:40] <elkbuntu> ootput, you forgot to mention 'quit all ubuntu channels while you're in there as well'
[12:41] <Pyru> erUSUL,
[12:41] <Krpano> mneptok, i fixed it....the problem with with the latest linux image......with the 2.6.15.23 it works fine.
[12:41] <Alucard> I'm so happy with this thing, when I had windows on this machine it ran like
[12:41] <Alucard> 120 times slower than this. now it's like ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM.
[12:42] <shut-> i want a laptop :P
[12:42] <MattJ> For me it is the opposite :)
[12:42] <mneptok> Alucard: your computer was made by Mazda?
[12:42] <shut-> so i can have linux on it
[12:42] <MattJ> At least where graphics are concerned
[12:42] <shut-> i have to have my pc windows
[12:42] <dpupp> which one is it in dapper where i add options for modules? : modprobe.conf or modules.conf?
[12:42] <erUSUL> Pyru: i've never used the tool myself... sorry you will have to figure it out yourself (man scp or google around)
[12:42] <Pyru> how do i upload a directory, using ssh btw im using freebsd sorry for asking here! just curious
[12:42] <ootput> elkbuntu: no, that should be okay. I've been active on #debian on oftc for a while now, and only recently active in this channel. You can use idle in any number of channels, so long as specific topics aren't discussed outside of the intended environment.
[12:42] <ootput> -use
[12:42] <mneptok> Pyru: you tar the dir and upload that.
[12:43] <MattJ> You all missed my point :D
[12:43] <Alucard> yes, and we all practice capoeira around my computer
[12:43] <Pyru> mneptok, thanks
[12:44] <erUSUL> Pyru: acording to man page scp has -r (recursive) option much like the cp comand does...
[12:44] <mneptok> scp /path/to/file.tar username@hostname:/path/to/destination/of/file.tar
[12:45] <erUSUL> so shameless copying mneptok scp -r /path/to/dir username@hostname:/path/to/destination/of/dir will do the job
[12:45] <Pyru> mneptok that command will work?
[12:45] <mneptok> Pyru: yes.
[12:45] <ootput> Pyru: provided paths on source and target exist
[12:45] <botox> hi n00bs
[12:45] <Pyru> k ty
[12:45] <botox> j/k
[12:46] <Khamael> what is MythTV?
[12:46] <mneptok> Khamael: Fox News
[12:46] <ootput> ah, nice
[12:46] <mneptok> *bah dum tish*
[12:46] <_tom_> !mythtv
[12:46] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[12:46] <optx> hi @ll
[12:47] <Alucard> hmmm what's that song by jefferson airplane about the pills and alice becoming 10 feet tall
[12:47] <optx> i have problems with installing the new nvidia drivers ....
[12:47] <mneptok> White Rabbit
[12:47] <optx> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[12:47] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:47] <erUSUL> optx: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:48] <optx> i got form synaptic the kernel source is this the one ??
[12:48] <optx> k erUSUL i check this one
[12:49] <szabi> hi all
[12:49] <_mason> Gday, Just a quick question.. What is the nvidia-config toolbox command, I was under the impression it was $ nvidia-config  .. but alas, Mistaken!
[12:49] <szabi> i accidentally deleted the system notification area, where the battery icon was... can sbdy help me getting it back?
[12:50] <erUSUL> _mason: nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings??
[12:50] <erUSUL> szabi: add a new one right click in panel and choose add to panel search for not. area
[12:50] <_mason> Ahh, Of course!   nvidia-settings it is!
[12:50] <_mason> Thank you erUSUL
[12:50] <Pyru> erUSUL where do i specity the ftp server
[12:51] <optx> got to kill GDM brb :)
[12:51] <szabi> yeah i know that, but wich thing to add...
[12:51] <erUSUL> Pyru: no, scp is for ssh not ftp servers
[12:51] <szabi> there is a battery monitor but thats not that one i used to have before
[12:52] <h4ch3r> hello
[12:52] <erUSUL> Pyru: i thouth you were working with putty and a ssh server (winscp is a windows scp program)
[12:52] <h4ch3r> some can help me
[12:52] <szabi> ok i got it :))))) thank u!
[12:52] <h4ch3r> ?
[12:52] <erUSUL> szabi: yw
[12:52] <erUSUL> !anyone
[12:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:52] <h4ch3r> er4z0r, help me
[12:53] <h4ch3r> erUSUL, help me
[12:53] <h4ch3r> ;)
[12:53] <erUSUL> !ask
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:53] <h4ch3r> erUSUL, ok man
[12:53] <h4ch3r> :)
[12:53] <Pyru> erUSUL, I am just trying to upload a directory via using putty to my linux
[12:53] <Pyru> im connected into a shell
[12:54] <Pyru> using putty
[12:54] <MattJ> Pyru: YOu are using Putty on Windows?
[12:54] <Pyru> and i want to upload some files into an ftp server
[12:54] <h4ch3r> i go install koffice em my ubuntu edgy eft knot3. 'cause openoffice very low!!!
[12:54] <Pyru> yes mat
[12:54] <erUSUL> Pyru: use winscp then i do not know if putty has scp support
[12:54] <MattJ> Pyru: Download WinSCP
[12:54] <h4ch3r> i have many problem with kde libs?
[12:54] <MattJ> SCP is like FTP, but uses SSH, like Putty
[12:55] <MattJ> So it can transfer files
[12:55] <h4ch3r> i have some problem with kdelibs??
[12:55] <h4ch3r> my SO go low?
[12:55] <h4ch3r> erUSUL, ?
[12:56] <erUSUL> h4ch3r: if you are in edgy better ask in #ubuntu+1 where you will find better support
[12:56] <erUSUL> !edgy
[12:56] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:56] <gary> Does anyone know how to reload resolve.conf so that changes take effect?
[12:56] <kexman> yelloooo
[12:56] <h4ch3r> erUSUL, ohh thns
[12:56] <h4ch3r> :D
[12:56] <erUSUL> h4ch3r: no problem
[12:57] <MattJ> sudo apt-get install fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:57] <MattJ> doh
[12:57] <MattJ> Wrong window, sorry :)
[12:58] <Alucard> What would you guys recommend as a program that reads wmv files, should I just use...*gasp*..realplayer for now?
[12:58] <MattJ> *gasp*
[12:58] <rixth_> Alucard, vlc, mplayer, totem-xine?
[12:59] <Alucard> ty
[01:00] <kyja> Alucard, IT IS not enough to install any one of the number of players. there is a codec you got to hunt down.
[01:00] <CromagDK> !codecs
[01:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:00] <vbgunz> kyja: not exactly true... vlc doesn't need the codecs I believe...
[01:00] <kyja> hmmm
[01:01] <kyja> well that would be great if it doesn;t
[01:01] <mpathy> Hi there
[01:02] <vbgunz> kyja: I used vlc without the codecs and it supported dvds, mp3's etc... problem was, it was buggy as hell :(
[01:02] <MattJ> mplayer
[01:02] <MattJ> *sigh*
[01:02] <kyja> yeah
[01:02] <mpathy> I have problems installing Ubuntu on a PowerBook G3.. It stops at some point in the installation.. mostly somewhere around loading some things like binutils_udeb etc. - someone knows whats the problem?
[01:02] <MattJ> reboot, and if this doesn't work, I'm sad to say I'm burning a debian iso
[01:02] <Alucard> thanks for the help on that, this new os thing has got me feeling like those people who used to call me in tech support -_-
[01:02] <MattJ> brb
[01:04] <kyja> vbgunz, there is codec for wvm somewhere, that is buggy. it is sad that ubuntu out of the box does not realy do multimidia
[01:04] <vbgunz> mattj: the official released Dapper drake 6.06 release had a buggy installer... try redownloading the latest dapper from Ubuntu... hopefully that will work
[01:04] <mpathy> checking disk integrity right now, if there are no errors I will try again.. but are there problems in general when installing on a PowerBook G3? (is there no #ubuntu-ppc channel?)
[01:04] <kyja> you have to know a little bit to get it all working plus flash and java for browsers
[01:05] <vbgunz> kyja: true but I agree with the ubuntu philosphy about free software... I can understand why they don't include it *but* also understand how this affects people
[01:05] <kyja> but with a little effort it rawks
[01:05] <kyja> yeah
[01:05] <vbgunz> yeah :)
[01:06] <vbgunz> i guess it is worth learning a little :)
[01:06] <kyja> true.
[01:06] <kyja> actualy I found automatix to be helpful my last 2 installs
[01:07] <MattJ> $ fglrxinfo
[01:07] <MattJ> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:07] <MattJ> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:07] <MattJ> .
[01:07] <vbgunz> I use easyubuntu... :)
[01:07] <kyja> that seemed ok. it is simulat
[01:07] <kyja> simular
[01:08] <vbgunz> :)
[01:09] <kyja> I absolutly love amarok
[01:09] <kyja> it has to be the best
[01:09] <mpathy> Someone here who can help with the PPC Installation problem I have (See above)?
[01:09] <marcion> Hello, how do I install sun's jdk on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <pennypacker> !ubuntu
[01:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:10] <pennypacker> aha
[01:10] <erUSUL> !java > marcion
[01:11] <marcion> On Gentoo you can just install it using the package manager, is it not packaged for Ubuntu?
[01:11] <kyja> has anybody compiled smallbasic ?
[01:12] <erUSUL> marcion: read the ubotu pm
[01:12] <marcion> If I can't get sun's java then I can't use ubuntu
[01:12] <erUSUL> !java
[01:12] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:12] <optx> got the nvidia driver (NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run) installed with NO Error msg, but now i got no screen anymore why that ??
[01:13] <kyja> marcion, you can get the latest java running no worries.
[01:13] <h4ch3r> with play music .flac in ubuntu?
[01:13] <erUSUL> optx: becouse the instaler leaves the new xorg.conf in your home dir and not in /etc/X11/ cp it to the correct location
[01:13] <h4ch3r> and xms?
[01:14] <Alucard> uhmmm
[01:14] <erUSUL> h4ch3r: flac: yes; xms: i don't know
[01:14] <Alucard> so terminal is telling me i already installed the codecs
[01:14] <Alucard> but it still wont play the wmv's on vlc
[01:15] <pennypacker> just install mplayer + essential codecs & play anything
[01:15] <erUSUL> Alucard: w32codecs?
[01:15] <optx> nope nothing in home erUSUL
[01:15] <tourach> h4ch3r: there is a package called xmms-flac
[01:15] <Alucard> yeah.
[01:15] <pan_away> where can i find a list of packages in dapper online and can also download individually them
[01:15] <h4ch3r> tourach, humm ok
[01:15] <erUSUL> pan_away: packages.ubuntu.com easy eh ;)
[01:15] <tourach> but it's probably in universe/multiverse
[01:15] <h4ch3r> tourach, converte flac in mp3?
[01:15] <kyja> marcion, be sure to go to system>administration>software properties / be sure to make a ubuntu repositories with all checkboxes enabled
[01:15] <optx> i choosed yes to use it after reboot.. was that wrong ??
[01:15] <jm^> chose
[01:16] <tourach> h4ch3r: to convert, check out the package "flac"
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> hey you guys. i really suck at this.. but i get this error when i compile.. "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop."  What can i do about it??
[01:16] <erUSUL> optx: no but i was bite by that yesterday... there must be an error in the instaler regarding sudo
[01:16] <tourach> h4ch3r: you are running dapper right?
[01:16] <erUSUL> Ackeubu_: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[01:16] <kyja> marcion, then be sure to check the not recomemded box of add/remove program and search for java and install java5
[01:16] <h4ch3r> edgy eft..but use in pc too dapper
[01:16] <pan_away> erUSUL, thanks
[01:17] <Ackeubu_> erUSUL: thanks alot
[01:17] <optx> so what to do now ?
[01:17] <tourach> okaj, in dapper the xmms-flac package is in universe
[01:17] <erUSUL> pan_away: yw
[01:17] <erUSUL> Ackeubu_: no problem
[01:17] <optx> install again and say no ?
[01:17] <h4ch3r> xmms-flac installed
[01:17] <h4ch3r> :)
[01:17] <optx> yea erUSUL is an ubuntu-freak :)
[01:18] <pennypacker> !fedora
[01:18] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[01:18] <erUSUL> optx: as i said just copy the xorg.conf in your home dir to /etc/X11/ (make a backup of the previus one first)
[01:18] <DexterF> slack isnt really src based
[01:18] <mpathy> !powerpc
[01:18] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[01:18] <mpathy> !powerbook
[01:18] <optx> ahhh k erUSUL sry.. im from germany .. my english is not the best :)
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powerbook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <gh0stwizard> hi everbody! how can i remove gnome full ?
[01:19] <h4ch3r> tourach, files .rm ?? exist plugins for this?
[01:19] <tourach> I use mplayer for those
[01:19] <erUSUL> optx: i'm from spain so mine is not perfect either...
[01:19] <erUSUL> ;)
[01:19] <optx> do i have to restart the whole sys or just gdm ??
[01:19] <h4ch3r> tourach, huh? 
[01:19] <optx> lol erUSUL
[01:19] <erUSUL> optx: just gdm
[01:20] <tourach> h4ch3r: get the win32codecs and just open the files in mplayer :)
[01:20] <optx> k i check that
[01:20] <afief> How can i open 7zip packages?
[01:20] <DexterF> is there a tool in (k)ub for modifying fstab?
[01:20] <erUSUL> afief: apt-cache search 7zip
[01:20] <h4ch3r> tourach, ok man thanks very much!
[01:20] <h4ch3r> :D
[01:21] <erUSUL> DexterF: System>Admin>Disks ??
[01:21] <optx> erUSUL whats with the xorg.conf in X11 erase that ?
[01:23] <isos_christos> Hello people
[01:23] <erUSUL> optx: ?? sorry i do not understand the sentence... i did this 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old' and then 'sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:23] <Shadowpillar> am I the only one who thinks ogg as a container for audio and video formats is somewhat a shitty idea?
[01:23] <h4ch3r> hello world
[01:23] <h4ch3r> :P
[01:24] <Shadowpillar> adds some confusion
[01:24] <Shadowpillar> it's like if everyone had their mp3's with the mpeg extension
[01:24] <erUSUL> optx: then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' (or restart)
[01:24] <jmspeex> Does anyone know why the fonts used by gs are ugly in Dapper when they were fine with Breezy?
[01:24] <jmspeex> Is that fixable?
[01:24] <optx> lol k soory im still a noob to ubuntu i want to make it with nautilus ;)
[01:25] <optx> but i check this one
[01:25] <erUSUL> jmspeex: maybe you need to install some gs-fonts package ??
[01:25] <Alucard> BAH
[01:25] <Alucard> i can't even install mplayer, i don't know why it's so much harder than vlc
[01:25] <isos_christos> I have two ubuntu machines, on a LAN. both can connect to the internet, and see remote windows PCs with samba
[01:25] <jmspeex> erUSUL: I tried installing everything I could find. Any particular thing I should look at?
[01:25] <isos_christos> and I can ssh using putty between the two
[01:25] <isos_christos> but can't use scp!!!
[01:25] <gan|y|med> hei
[01:26] <Ackeubu_> hey you.. i tried to modprobe "mmc_block" as my howto instructed me. to get sdcard reader to work. but i get "FATAL: Module mmc_block not found." what is mmc_block and how do i install it?
[01:26] <gan|y|med>  i wanna have page numbering in ooo, but the fist page should not be numbered. how do i do that?
[01:26] <gan|y|med> hi
[01:26] <isos_christos> any idea where could the problem be?
[01:26] <ootput> isos_christos: how are you scp'ing?
[01:26] <erUSUL> optx: you can override just fine the ald xorg.conf but is better to make a backup copy just in case...
[01:26] <erUSUL> jmspeex: no sorry just shooting in the dark
[01:26] <maxb_at_work> Hi. Despite the mention of the package in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xchat/2.6.6-0ubuntu1~dapper1 - it doesn't actually seem to be present in the Packages file.... any idea what's wrong, and how to get the package?
[01:27] <erUSUL> maxb_at_work: maybe is the one in edgy
[01:27] <erUSUL> !edgy
[01:27] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:27] <Alucard> ...what file do I run to install mplayer..
[01:27] <maxb_at_work> But... why would launchpad claim it was published to dapper-backports if it was not?
[01:28] <pennypacker> type "locate mplayer"
[01:28] <erUSUL> Alucard: 'sudo apt-get install mplayer ?
[01:28] <erUSUL> maxb_at_work: i do not know....
[01:28] <NthDegree> maxb_at_work: enable backports and universe
[01:29] <isos_christos> ootput: using scp isos@192.168.0.1:/home/isos in shell
[01:30] <maxb_at_work> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xchat/ <-- apparently it's only there as source, despite the fact that launchpad claims that builds happened
[01:30] <marcion> Thanks everyone I got it. Had to use Add to get the nonfree
[01:30] <Alucard> ty..
[01:30] <marcion> in synaptic
[01:30] <NthDegree> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xchat/xchat_2.6.6-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:30] <NthDegree> ZOMG it's there
[01:30] <NthDegree> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xchat/xchat_2.6.6-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[01:31] <isos_christos> ootput: sorry ... like scp isos@192.168.0.1:/home/isos/Desktop/text.txt /home/user/Desktop
[01:31] <NthDegree> maxb_at_work: look http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xchat/xchat_2.6.6-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[01:31] <NthDegree> ubuntu2 is higher than ubuntu1~dapper1 I think
[01:31] <Kyuubi> hi all i need help
[01:31] <magnet> !ask
[01:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:32] <isos_christos> kyuubi: just post your problem
[01:32] <Kyuubi> how do i get a motorola v220 to work as a modem as it would in windows?
[01:33] <Ash-Fox> plug it in?
[01:33] <Kyuubi> does not want to pick up....pics up the mem card...thats all
[01:33] <maxb_at_work> NthDegree: Umm, so what?
[01:34] <isos_christos> I have two ubuntu machines, on a LAN. both can connect to the internet, and see remote windows PCs with samba
[01:34] <NthDegree> uh it is there and built
[01:34] <isos_christos> and I can ssh using putty between the two
[01:34] <isos_christos> but can't use scp!!!
[01:34] <isos_christos> any idea where could the problem be?
[01:34] <erUSUL> Kyuubi: plug it to the usb port and an a special ttyUSB0 (or ttyACM0) will appear in /dev/ that you can use as any other serial modem
[01:34] <Alucard> god
[01:35] <isos_christos> I am trying to scp using scp isos@192.168.0.1:/home/isos/Desktop/test /home/user/Desktop
[01:35] <erUSUL> Kyuubi: i've tried with other phones not sure about your model though
[01:35] <Alucard> now mplayer will read sound
[01:35] <Alucard> but not video
[01:35] <isos_christos> but I am getting an error warning!
[01:35] <maxb_at_work> NthDegree: the dapper backport is not
[01:35] <SillyZ> morning... need some help with /etc/fstab
[01:36] <isos_christos> Anyone?
[01:36] <Kyuubi> thanks guys...will try to connect tonite from home for more help
[01:36] <NthDegree> ZOMG that is a dapper version AFAIK
[01:36] <Kyuubi> cheers
[01:36] <SillyZ> how can i set it up in the fstab file to mount a vfat drive and allow the 'user' acces to rw on that drive, not just root
[01:36] <pennypacker> uid = name
[01:36] <ootput> isos_christos: you're issuing it wrong
[01:36] <SillyZ> uid = nameofuser ?
[01:36] <isos_christos> how then?
[01:36] <erUSUL> Kyuubi: do tail -f /var/log/messages before plug it in and look for cdc-acm messages
[01:36] <pennypacker> i think so
[01:36] <magnet> SillyZ: uid= uid (not name) or gid=46
[01:36] <pennypacker> at end of fstab
[01:36] <isos_christos> I maned scp and that's how I can get the syntax
[01:37] <ootput> isos_christos: scp /path/to/source/file(s) user@targethost:/path/to/target/file
[01:37] <NthDegree> maxb_at_work: how do you know that isn't a dapper-compatible version ^.^
[01:37] <pennypacker> line
[01:37] <erUSUL> !ntfs > SillyZ
[01:37] <magnet> SillyZ: all users are in group 46 by default in ubuntu
[01:37] <SillyZ> ntfs sucks rocks for writing
[01:37] <Orasis1> Is there anyway to make use of the "Windows" key on my keyboard through Ubuntu?, its so lonely.. :P
[01:37] <isos_christos> well .. I want to copy from the server to the client
[01:37] <ootput> isos_christos: if you want to pull files from a source box, use sftp
[01:37] <erUSUL> SillyZ: the instruccions on the page work for vfat too
[01:37] <ootput> isos_christos: it acts like an ftp client
[01:37] <erUSUL> !ntfs
[01:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:37] <maxb_at_work> NthDegree: dapper-compatible or not, I'd still have to add edgy sources to get it, and then mess around with pinning.
[01:37] <ootput> isos_christos: or use something like lftp for ease
[01:37] <SillyZ> !ntfs
[01:37] <isos_christos> aha ... okey
[01:37] <ootput> isos_christos: sftp user@targethost
[01:38] <ootput> isos_christos: and then 'get file.txt'
[01:38] <SillyZ> loading the page ....
[01:38] <maxb_at_work> NthDegree: which seems a little odd when there *is* a dapper-backport version in source form, but the binaries are missing from the archive.
[01:38] <isos_christos> ootpu: fstp user@targethost:/home/user/file(s) /home/isos/Desktop   ??? just like that?
[01:39] <NthDegree> maxb_at_work: apt-get build it :-)
[01:39] <Ackeubu_> hey you.. i tried to modprobe "mmc_block" as my howto instructed me. to get sdcard reader to work. but i get "FATAL: Module mmc_block not found." what is mmc_block and how do i install it?
[01:39] <ootput> isos_christos: no, sftp user@target host <enter>
[01:39] <NthDegree> oops no source deb either
[01:39] <ootput> isos_christos: then 'cd /path/to/files'
[01:39] <SillyZ> so in other words, put user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 in the options field
[01:39] <NthDegree> meh
[01:39] <ootput> isos_christos: then 'get files'
[01:39] <Alucard> :(
[01:39] <maxb_at_work> done it already. Restarting with new version ...
[01:39] <isos_christos> oh ... ok ..
[01:40] <ootput> isos_christos: why are you using the command line when you're probably much more comfortable with a gui
[01:40] <erUSUL> Ackeubu_: if it exist it is here 'find /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-k7/ -name '*mmc_block*' -print'
[01:40] <ootput> isos_christos: afaik, gftp can handle connections over sh
[01:40] <pan_away> is there any package for uvcvideo webcam driver kernel module in dapper?
[01:41] <isos_christos> i used gftp but it's tooooo slow
[01:41] <SillyZ> schweet thanks yall, that did the trick for me
[01:41] <erUSUL> isos_christos: it has to encrypt the stream....
[01:41] <Alucard> does anyone know why on vlc it can play audio but not video on wmv files
[01:41] <erUSUL> SillyZ: no problem
[01:41] <isos_christos> what does that mean?
[01:41] <ootput> isos_christos: if it's over a local lan, you can enable compression, and use a weaker(?) algorithm - something like blowfish
[01:42] <kyja> gosh that .gnome2 gnomescript thing is the handiest thing ever !!
[01:42] <Alucard> O_O
[01:42] <erUSUL> isos_christos: encrypt and decrypt is a cpu intensive operation
[01:42] <ootput> kyja: which?
[01:42] <isos_christos> ok I'll try that
[01:42] <SillyZ> isos_christos:  adding the line that I did to the fstab options for the vfat drive will now allow my 'user' on the system to read and write to vfat drive without having to be root
[01:42] <SillyZ> and was just thanking the goof folks here in ubuntu for the help
[01:43] <SillyZ> goof = good
[01:43] <NthDegree> ROFL
[01:43] <kyja> when you right click you get a scripts menu if you have created this. and you can activate a script.
[01:43] <SillyZ> no coffee yet this morning
[01:43] <pennypacker> gj
[01:43] <isos_christos> talking to me SillyZ?
[01:43] <NthDegree> SillyZ: goof is probably more accurate XD
[01:43] <SillyZ> isos_christos:  yes
[01:43] <kyja> I have 5 useful scripts one I wrote to create a root terminal where you are in nautilis
[01:43] <erUSUL> SillyZ: have you remounted the partition? used the correct umask in the fstab?
[01:43] <isos_christos> How?
[01:44] <kyja> ? me how ?
[01:44] <isos_christos> no, SillyZ
[01:44] <kyja> ah hehe l
[01:44] <kyja> k
[01:44] <SillyZ> isos_christos: not awake yet, no coffee yet, like I said the line suggested did the job for what I needed in the options of the vfat line in fstab correcting this allows the 'users' on the system to write/read to a vfat drive without having to be the 'root' user
[01:44] <Alucard> anyone have an idea of how i can get vlc to play wmv video not just audio
[01:45] <SillyZ> isos_christos: I unmounted the drive, edited fstab, remounted the drive.... tada works like a champ
[01:45] <isos_christos> I know that but I am talking about something else
[01:45] <isos_christos> talking about secure copy using ssh
[01:45] <isos_christos> over a LAN
[01:45] <SillyZ> isos_christos: then what are you speaking of ? Like I said no coffee here yet this morning so Im still half asleep
[01:45] <ootput> different page, different book, different shelf, different aisle, different library
[01:46] <SillyZ> isos_christos: sch over lan, that should be easy enough to do via ssh
[01:46] <isos_christos> go get some coffee man
[01:46] <SillyZ> scp sorry
[01:46] <isos_christos> yes but warning prompts and can't do it!!!
[01:46] <jrib> Alucard: for WMV3 you need to recompile
[01:46] <kyja> if anyone wants me to send my script folder to them I will and they can look at it and I can instruct how to install it. anybody have a useful script I DONT HAVE LET ME KNOW
[01:46] <SillyZ> isnt the syntax scp ip of remote    ip of loacal   file   ?
[01:46] <Alucard> explain?
[01:47] <idefix_> from which dir can you best run bin-scripts?
[01:47] <idefix_> not the Desktop dir I suppose, right?
[01:47] <isos_christos> telling me: host key verification failed
[01:47] <jrib> Alucard: http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/  I would just use xine or mplayer instead for wmv3
[01:47] <isos_christos> lost connection
[01:47] <SillyZ> idefix_:  usually i put em in /usr/local/bin
[01:47] <Alucard> mplayer wont play it
[01:48] <pennypacker> mplayer: look 4 the dir: usr/local/win32
[01:48] <jrib> Alucard: have you installed w32codecs?
[01:48] <Alucard> provably not.
[01:48] <jrib> !w32codecs > Alucard
[01:48] <afief> What is the easiest way to delete all files that do not contain a certain string?
[01:48] <Alucard> D:
[01:48] <pennypacker> copy the essential codecs pakage from mplayer.hu tyhere
[01:48] <Alucard> i got the essential codecs package
[01:48] <Alucard> but i don't know wtf to do with it.
[01:48] <isos_christos> ootput: in the warning it's asking me to add correct host hey in /home/isos/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message ...
[01:49] <isos_christos> ootput: what can I do about that?
[01:49] <isos_christos> or anyone
[01:49] <Alucard> arrgh
[01:49] <idefix_> SillyZ what's a dmg file for?
[01:49] <ootput> remove the hostkey for the other comp in  known_hosts, and then retry the connection
[01:49] <idefix_> do you need a dmg to run a bin?
[01:49] <pennypacker> lib/win3
[01:49] <pennypacker> 2
[01:50] <Alucard> help D:
[01:50] <archangelpetro> i've added a line into .bash_profile to set a path but it doesnt seem to work, as far as i can tell. . .bash_profile isnt being read/used.. is there any way to remedy/fix this?
[01:50] <SillyZ> idefix_: dmg is a mac / osx image kinda like an iso but generally is used with macintosh
[01:50] <optx> erUSUL i've reinstalled the nvidia driver,and sayed NO at the end. I had VERSA before just to see something :). as i now restarted gdm a saw the NVIDIA screen. so it works now right ??
[01:50] <afief> What is the easiest way to delete all files that do not contain a certain string?
[01:50] <jrib> archangelpetro: .bash_profile only gets read for login shells.  When you open a shell in X, it's not a login shell.  Use ~/.gnomerc
[01:51] <Nameeater> I have tried two different network cards in this machine, in different pci slots but still nothing is showing up in lspci
[01:51] <jrib> afief: you could use some invocation of find
[01:51] <Nameeater> what could be going wrong?
[01:51] <pennypacker> /sbin/lspci
[01:51] <erUSUL> optx: yes
[01:51] <ootput> afief: look into grep's manpage and the option --files-without-match
[01:51] <isos_christos> oops .. I removed the key and rebooted and orgot to take a backup!!!
[01:51] <isos_christos> whay is taht hey anyway?
[01:51] <isos_christos> that*
[01:51] <erUSUL> optx: enjoy the 3d accell ;)
[01:51] <archangelpetro> jrib: so i could write export PATH=$PATH:/opt/crystalspace/bin/   in gnomrc  and have that work instead?
[01:52] <ootput> isos_christos: why did you reboot?!
[01:52] <isos_christos> I was going to anyway
[01:52] <jrib> archangelpetro: yes, in ~/.gnomerc should work provided you are using GNOME :P
[01:52] <Alucard> K so I downloaded the w32 codec, how do i install it to run in mplayer
[01:52] <Nameeater> penny: other than its /bin/lspci, nothing at _all_ print, not a letter
[01:52] <archangelpetro> im using xubuntu atm.. so xfce4 :)
[01:52] <isos_christos> but I remembered that I didn't create a backup after I typed reboot
[01:52] <jrib> Alucard: double click on it
[01:52] <SillyZ> ahhhhh..... coffee, smokes, and a little metallica...... life is now good :D
[01:52] <pennypacker> ok
[01:53] <isos_christos> so can you please tell me what does that key do and how can I restore it?
[01:53] <pennypacker> in the mplayer "readme" u can mb find where mplayer looks for the w32 codecs
[01:54] <Alucard> argh.
[01:54] <Alucard> never mind apprently that didn't work
[01:54] <archangelpetro> jrib: im using xfce4 (xubuntu) would i be able to add it to .bashrc?
[01:54] <optx> thx erUSUL u saved my day :)
[01:54] <pennypacker> its mostly /usr/local/lib/win32 or usr/lib etc
[01:54] <jrib> archangelpetro: that works too, except it gets read every time you open a new shell instead of when you start Xubuntu.  I'm not sure of the equivalent file to use for Xubuntu
[01:55] <jrib> Alucard: do you have a file of the form w32codecs*.deb?
[01:55] <Alucard> i just got the essential package from the mplayer site
[01:55] <pennypacker> gj
[01:55] <Alucard> i tried to get the w32 codecs separately but all i got was random trees.
[01:56] <jrib> Alucard: oh ok, then you would have to follow the directions in the README.  If you download the deb, all you need to do is double click
[01:56] <ootput> alucard: isn't it just a tarball?
[01:56] <pennypacker> yes extract it
[01:56] <Alucard> I did extract it.
[01:56] <pennypacker> =\
[01:57] <archangelpetro> thanks jrib
[01:57] <ootput> alucard: strange, I can't seem to tab-complete your capitalised nick
[01:57] <Alucard> haha
[01:57] <Alucard> odd.
[01:57] <Alucard> I feel so stupid tonight. sorry about that guys i can't seem to follow a readme.
[01:57] <Alucard> first night with this os.
[01:58] <ootput> well, at least you're honest :)
[01:58] <jrib> Alucard: what directory did the file's end up in after you extracted?
[01:58] <pennypacker> put it where mplayer can find it
[01:58] <Alucard> desktop
[01:58] <SillyZ> anyone here worked with an application called "AntennaVis" and actually got it working?
[01:58] <Alucard> trying to move them
[01:59] <jrib> Alucard: yeah you need to move them to /usr/local/lib/win32/ I /think/
[01:59] <pennypacker> copy as root
[01:59] <Alucard> it told me it was in lib codecs
[01:59] <Alucard> but htere's no such folder
[01:59] <Alucard> and it told me no to creating it
[01:59] <Alucard> -_-
[02:00] <jrib> Alucard: oh right they updated it, you  are right
[02:00] <optx> c ya
[02:00] <SillyZ> ok ill take that as a no then
[02:00] <Alucard> hm weird
[02:00] <Alucard> kinda odd not letting me create folders
[02:00] <jrib> Alucard: well, sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs   should work
[02:00] <Alucard> yeah there's nothing in lib except python
[02:01] <Alucard> and it wont let me create new folder for that.
[02:01] <h4ch3r> tourach,
[02:01] <pennypacker> cp /Desktop/essentialcodecs/* /usr/../codecs/blah
[02:01] <h4ch3r> tourach, ping
[02:01] <tourach> h4ch3r: hello :)
[02:01] <h4ch3r> install this programa apt-get install soundconverter  :)
[02:02] <dpupp> where do i report working hardware?
[02:02] <h4ch3r> converter flac in mp3 very easy!
[02:02] <bezibaerchen> just got some updates and did a reboot afterwards, since that, my X more or less stopped working. gdm restarts. gdm-log says "5896 Xorg-air: client 4 rejected from local host" any hints HIGHLY appreciated
[02:02] <mpathy> Here is my sys info from the PowerBook G3: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/170111 - is it perhaps not even supported?`
[02:02] <pennypacker> yes linux is nice
[02:02] <h4ch3r> tourach, too install gstreamer-lame
[02:02] <h4ch3r> :D
[02:02] <dpupp> i have a pcmcia card that now works, and id like to mark it somewhere as working under ubuntu dapper 6.06. where? ...
[02:02] <jrib> !hardware
[02:02] <ptenf> bezibaerchen: Xorg.0.log .Try startx from the command line
[02:02] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:03] <Alucard> wtf acess denied to create a folder on my own cpu
[02:03] <dpupp> thanks
[02:03] <jrib> Alucard: even with sudo?
[02:03] <pennypacker> be root
[02:03] <h4ch3r> tourach, ayo man?
[02:03] <pennypacker> !root
[02:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:03] <ootput> alucard: non-writable folder?
[02:03] <bezibaerchen> ptenf: startx says, that X is already running. X starts, but after login I happen to endup on gdm-login again. Xorg.0.log also says this rejected-stuff, too
[02:03] <Alucard> sudo?
[02:04] <jrib> Alucard: most of the stuff outside your home direectory is not controlled by your user.  Only root can control it.  To run commands with root privileges, you use the "sudo" command before a command
[02:04] <Alucard> ah yeah that
[02:04] <Alucard> so then what do i do with the sudo i mean i have the extracted folder on the desktop
[02:05] <Alucard> i was just trying to use the file organizer
[02:05] <tourach> h4ch3r: so you found a converter?
[02:05] <jrib> Alucard: do you have a terminal open?
[02:05] <Alucard> yes
[02:05] <jrib> Alucard: first you can create the folder with: sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs
[02:06] <Clinton__> Is anyone here familiar with cpufreqd?  I'm receiving a "No cpufreqd socket found" error.  Could the cause be a module not loaded?  (cpufreq modules and p4-clockmod are all loaded, /etc/init.d/cpufreqd starts fine)
[02:06] <Alucard> it keeps asking me for a password.
[02:06] <jrib> Alucard: enter your user's password
[02:06] <pennypacker> dont forget your password
[02:06] <SillyZ> is there anyway to add like Xmms  to the taskbar where Applications, Places, and System are located ( to the right of them of course )
[02:06] <Alucard> I keep doing it and it won't take it there even though it'll take it everywhere else
[02:06] <Alucard> could it be the caps?
[02:07] <jrib> SillyZ: you mean like an icon to launch it?
[02:07] <bionoid> SillyZ: Like right-click and "add to launcher" ?
[02:07] <Alucard> god wtf.
[02:07] <purple> anyone uses bitchX?
[02:07] <SillyZ> bionoid: not really like a smaller version of the application sitting there, so i can select what I want to play and just play it .... I know in kde this was possible
[02:07] <ootput> alucard: yes, don't use capslock when entering your password
[02:07] <Clinton__> purple I'm using it right now
[02:08] <Alucard> not that
[02:08] <purple> i just found version for windows man
[02:08] <Alucard> i mean my password has caps on it
[02:08] <purple> can u believe?
[02:08] <purple> ;)
[02:08] <SillyZ> tried to drag and drop it there, no go.... best i found is an application launcher but thats not what im looking to do
[02:08] <jrib> SillyZ: gxmms-xmms maybe?
[02:08] <ootput> alucard: uppercase/lowercase shouldn't matter.. as long as you enter it in correctly
[02:08] <bionoid> SillyZ: hmm ok, don't know :(
[02:08] <SillyZ> gxmms-xmms .... hmmm
[02:09] <Alucard> er what the fuck
[02:09] <Alucard> i know i'm putting in my right password since it asks me for it every time i change anything.
[02:09] <Alucard> and I'm obviously not using capslock and I changed it to 123 so i could make sure it wasn't bugging out
[02:09] <Alucard> gawd.
[02:10] <SillyZ> kinda a media player sitting in the application bar, not just a launcher
[02:10] <h4ch3r> tourach, yeah
[02:10] <pennypacker> 123 is not very safe
[02:10] <Alucard> it was temporary
[02:10] <pennypacker> k
[02:10] <Alucard> so i could make sure terminal wsas taking it
[02:10] <Alucard> was*
[02:10] <jrib> !info gxmms-xmms
[02:10] <ubotu> gxmms-xmms: Simple GNOME applet to control the basic functions of XMMS. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.0-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 168 kB
[02:10] <Clinton__> !cpufreqd
[02:10] <ubotu> cpufreqd: fully configurable daemon for dynamic frequency and voltage scaling. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-1 (dapper), package size 61 kB, installed size 316 kB
[02:11] <Alucard> erm.
[02:12] <SillyZ> instresting not found in package manager or add/remove
[02:12] <Alucard> YAY
[02:12] <Alucard> it did it
[02:12] <Alucard> finally.
[02:12] <pennypacker> hf
[02:13] <jrib> SillyZ: have you enabled universe?
[02:13] <pennypacker> the wonderful world of mplayer
[02:13] <SillyZ> jrib: I belive so, but ill check
[02:13] <Alucard> yeah nevermind there.
[02:14] <ootput> alucard: next thing to do would be to compile mplayer with the correct cpu extensions, and no rtc.
[02:14] <jrib> ootput: what is rtc?
[02:14] <Alucard> i don't think getting a wmv file to run was ever this hard.
[02:14] <jrib> Alucard: it's not, like I said you could have just downloaded the deb and double clicked
[02:15] <SillyZ> jrib: yup you were right, universe wasnt checked
[02:15] <Alucard> k, where is this deb
[02:15] <Alucard> manually is totally not working :(
[02:16] <Alucard> I suck at linux, man.
[02:16] <jrib> !w32codecs > Alucard
[02:16] <Alucard> yeah..
[02:16] <Alucard> I got pwn't
[02:16] <jrib> Alucard: nah, everyone was there once.  You just have to play with it for a few days and get the basics down
[02:17] <xinted> be on it man. you will be better
[02:17] <Alucard> yeah it's just like damn you wmv
[02:17] <Alucard> i blame windows.
[02:17] <pennypacker> yes
[02:17] <grai> does anyone know the name of that program that was used to create some of the funny line/fractal wallpaper proposals?
[02:18] <grai> can't find it on the wiki
[02:18] <grai> (nor can i find a way to diff any but the last two page revisions there)
[02:18] <SillyZ> hmmm still dosent show it when i goto add an application on the bar, maybe add a custom launcher for it ?
[02:19] <grai> kind of a long shot
[02:19] <maxb_at_work> I have a totally standard Dapper install. What, in X, is catching Ctrl-Shift-C and doing something with it before it can reach individual X applications? It seems to be something trying to allow me to type unicode codes in hexadecimal whilst holding down Ctrl-Shift.
[02:19] <ootput> grai: imsmap?
[02:19] <ootput> grai: I've no idea which wiki entry you're referring to, though
[02:20] <archangelpetro> "archangelpetro: well seems you're missing the development stuff for opengl" i'm trying to use Crystalspace.. and have a geforce 6600, is there anything from apt that would allow me to use it?  do i need nvidia-glx-dev?
[02:20] <zapcojake> hello, anybody know how to make bsd fortunes run automatically when you start the terminal?
[02:20] <ootput> zapcojake: .bash_login?
[02:20] <grai> ootput: nah, that's not it.  i'm pretty sure i came across it in the art section of the wiki ages ago.  i guess i'll just start going through my old bookmarks.html files
[02:21] <ahbe> Hi all
[02:21] <zapcojake> ootput /home/me/.bash_login?
[02:21] <ahbe> Help! Have a persisting problem with apt-get on company net, get a "111 Connection refused". Works with dhcp, but not with static ip. Access to inet is ok for both. dhcp has proxy, static ip not (afaik).
[02:22] <Alucard> hey guys was i supposed to grab the ftp de file from the site?...
[02:22] <ootput> zapcojake: or even .profile. I'm not too sure, I'm using zsh now, and ~/.zlogin is sourced at boot. It's been a while since I last used bash, and I can't remember the sequence of files sourced
[02:22] <quiet> so what's the deal with gftp this morning?
[02:22] <quiet> it's all... broken.
[02:22] <zapcojake> thanks
[02:22] <jrib> Alucard: you just download http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[02:22] <xinted> ahbe, do you use a proxy?
[02:23] <Alucard> thank you O_O
[02:23] <SillyZ> jrib: installed gxmms-xmms   but that still dosent seem to do the job, do i need ot add a custom launcher or somethin for it ?
[02:24] <afief> How can i delete all the files that contain [t] ?
[02:24] <jrib> SillyZ: I haven't installed it so I don't know how it works.  I believe it should just be available as a panel applet when you got to "Add to panel...".  If it's not there maybe you need to logout and back in
[02:24] <Alucard> well that's a hell of alot easier.
[02:24] <quiet> afief, in the filename?
[02:24] <jrib> afief: find -name *t* -exec rm
[02:24] <jrib> {}
[02:24] <SillyZ> jrib: aye kinda what I was thinkin, ill get a few more things the way i want em then log out / in
[02:24] <afief> quiet
[02:24] <afief> quiet: yes
[02:25] <jrib> afief: oops.... dumb enter key, I mean: find -name *t* -exec rm '{}' \;
[02:25] <ahbe> xinted. As stated, I think not. However, dhcp-setup uses one. mayb smth is left over?
[02:25] <ootput> afief: 't' or \[t\] ?
[02:25] <afief> jrib, but it has to contain the exac string "[t] "
[02:25] <quiet> afief, rm ./*[t] *
[02:25] <quiet> for the current directory
[02:25] <quiet> no need to get fancy
[02:25] <xinted> check your synaptic, if there is proxy in it
[02:25] <jrib> afief: oh with the brackets... find will do ALL the files if you start it in /.  That's probably not what you want
[02:26] <afief> quiet: but i think that would be considered i wildcard and delete every file that contains the letter t
[02:26] <Alucard> i love you jrib
[02:26] <Alucard> haha
[02:26] <ahbe> xinted. check synaptic?? me is a noob. lol
[02:26] <quiet> i don't think the brackets are wild card characters?
[02:26] <jrib> afief: escape them
[02:26] <xinted> ahbe, synaptic package manager
[02:26] <Alucard> ggggggggggoodnight everyone thanks for the help.
[02:26] <afief> jrib what does that mean?
[02:27] <zapcojake> .bashrc thanks alot
[02:27] <SillyZ> jrib: thanks again for all your help this morning
[02:27] <jrib> afief: what ootput did before:  \[t\] 
[02:27] <ootput> afief: read my message
[02:27] <jrib> SillyZ: np
[02:28] <ahbe> xinted. Do i have to have it? I have "system settings"
[02:28] <jrib> quiet: brackets work like: [abc] *  matches any file that has a or b or c as the first character
[02:28] <quiet> ohhh.
[02:28] <quiet> whoops.
[02:28] <ootput> zsh-lovers man page has an intro on globs, iirc
[02:29] <Windy> hi, can i get some help on something?
[02:29] <xinted> it should be tehre in System Administration
[02:29] <Windy> please.
[02:29] <quiet> no.
[02:29] <Windy> very well.
[02:29] <quiet> not until you ask the question.
[02:29] <Windy> lol
[02:29] <kevor_> aptitude gives me (with g) the advice to remove a LOT of crucial packages, is this normal?
[02:30] <Windy> it's general manners to see if anyone has the energy to help
[02:30] <Windy> although
[02:30] <Windy> if you prefer
[02:30] <ootput> Windy: '42'
[02:30] <Windy> i'm more than happy to run screaming into the channel with a
[02:30] <Windy> 'HELP HELP OMG OMG'
[02:30] <quiet> just ask. if someone can/wants to answer, they will.
[02:30] <Windy> on a more serious note, i can't get the network manager applet config to show up
[02:30] <xinted> dont ask to ask
[02:30] <xinted> lol
[02:31] <Windy> i deleted my default gnome-panel (don't ask, it was a nubbin mistake) and i've restored everything but nm-applet
[02:31] <ahbe> xinted. No, only adept
[02:31] <Windy> tried uninstalling and reinstalling network manager
[02:31] <Windy> tried rebooting a few times
[02:31] <Windy> just can't get the config thingo to show up
[02:31] <quiet> right-click -> add to panel -> Network Monitor
[02:31] <quiet> ?
[02:31] <Windy> err
[02:31] <xinted> try aptitude update
[02:31] <Windy> where is 'network monitor' in this right click bit
[02:31] <GNAM> FIREFOX 1.5.0.7 OUT!
[02:32] <Windy> i've tried looking for it in there
[02:32] <Morten_> Hey, I have a problem with my Xserver.. I updated my Breezy Badger yesterday, after i had installed it, but after the obligatory reboot, the xserver didn't want to start. The screen flickers and i get the following error: "(WW) RADEON(0): Failed to set up the write-combining range (0xc000000, 0x4000000)" and "XIO: Fatal IO Error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining"
[02:32] <quiet> then right-click the applet -> Properties
[02:32] <Morten_> And something with xauth.. :|
[02:32] <Windy> oh wait
[02:32] <Windy> netowrk monitor isn't it
[02:32] <Windy> i want network MANAGER
[02:32] <quiet> Windy, under "System & Hardware"
[02:32] <Windy> monitor i got back already
[02:32] <quiet> oh..
[02:32] <Windy> slightly different
[02:32] <quiet> umm.
[02:32] <Windy> net mon is just a basic config thingo
[02:33] <Windy> nm-applet configs multiple wireless connections
[02:33] <ahbe> xinted. Same. Buildin tag database ... and then 111 on acessing the repos
[02:33] <Windy> just i can't see it anymore...thus, confused the Windy is
[02:33] <GNAM> something like KNetworkManager?
[02:33] <Windy> GNAM: yeah, but for gnome
[02:33] <tristan__> Anyone has compiz and Xgl running on his comp?
[02:33] <xinted> strange. i dont really get what the problem is
[02:33] <Windy> so just dorp the K and you've got it :P
[02:33] <Windy> it's the same app
[02:33] <xinted> i have xgl and compiz running here
[02:33] <ahbe> xinted. Yeah. Thats y i'm here. Last resort.
[02:34] <Windy> it sucks cos i only figured out this morning how to get it to work
[02:34] <xinted> can you give me the exact error msg
[02:34] <Windy> and now i've gone and killed it
[02:34] <Windy> such is the life of the linux newbie
[02:34] <ahbe> xinted. Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[02:34] <ahbe>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (195.248.90.23). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:34] <quiet> Windy, in synaptic... search for 'network-manager'
[02:34] <foxiness> hi ,am try to do a backup of my linux partition by tar ,to ext USB 40GB with 5.6 gb free FAT32 after i do this mooring a backup -fail without any message from tar-,i remember that FAT32 has a limit of 4GB for single file like here "backup.tgz",am try to delete this distor after the backup complete to put it on the USB ,what can i do now?
[02:34] <quiet> is it installed?
[02:35] <ahbe> xinted. Happens 3x, other servers
[02:35] <quiet> better yet, how about 'network-manager-gnome' ?
[02:35] <Windy> quiet: like i said, i've reinstalled it several times
[02:35] <xinted> hmm lemme have a look around
[02:35] <Windy> both network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[02:35] <Windy> i've also checked the session info and it tells me nm-applet is running
[02:35] <Windy> the problem is i see no config icon
[02:35] <quiet> lemme install it and see what i can figure out.
[02:36] <Windy> hmm
[02:36] <Windy> you'd have to install it and then delete your default gnome panel to get to where i am
[02:36] <Windy> hmm
[02:36] <afief> What to do when rm * returns "argument list is too long"?
[02:36] <Windy> alternatively, i don't spose there's a backup of gnome panel somewhere?
[02:36] <jrib> afief: use xargs
[02:37] <afief> jrib: how?
[02:37] <jrib> afief: does 'echo *' work?
[02:37] <quiet> Windy, deleting and adding panel's is not a big deal.'
[02:37] <afief> jrib: yes
[02:37] <jrib> afief: echo * | xargs rm
[02:38] <Windy> quiet: yeah, i didn't think it would be
[02:38] <Windy> everything else i've managed to get back
[02:38] <Windy> i just can't get that damn nm-applet config window
[02:39] <xinted> ahbe, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8161377 try the forum
[02:39] <xinted> it could be your router. or it could be the proxy
[02:39] <afief> jrib: doesn't work, the files all have spaces in their names
[02:39] <quiet> what happens when you run 'nm-applet from the command-line?
[02:39] <quiet> Windy, ^^
[02:40] <jrib> afief: find -maxdepth 1 -name * -exec rm
[02:40] <Orasis1> Is it safe to delete everything in the "Examples" directory in /home?
[02:40] <jrib> afief: hold on that's not done...
[02:41] <jrib> afief: find -maxdepth 1 -name * -exec rm '{}' \;     I think that should work
[02:41] <Windy> quiet: nothing :(
[02:42] <eltower> hey
[02:42] <Windy> that was one of the first things i tried
[02:42] <cr3> which package creates the "hal" user? I looked at the diff for the hal package and it only seems to create the user haldaemon
[02:42] <afief> jrib: find complains about a too long argument list
[02:42] <der0b> orasis1: that should just be a link to another location.  If you don't want to see it, you can just rm the link
[02:42] <xinted> ahbe, try this command and let me know the output ::: env | grep proxy
[02:43] <jrib> afief: ok, how about... find -maxdepth 1 -name * -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[02:43] <afief> jrib: rm missing operand
[02:43] <eltower> Looking to buy a new mobile phone - what would anyone recommend so I could use it with Ubuntu (synchronise contacts  la iSync etc.)?
[02:44] <jrib> afief: ok.... for file in *; do rm $file; done    ?
[02:44] <jrib> afief: maybe "$file" instead
[02:45] <Orasis1> der0b: Yeah, well what I mean is can I safely remove all of the "example" files --- the hard files that the link corresponds to?
[02:45] <Morten_> Hey, I have a problem with my Xserver.. I updated my Breezy Badger yesterday but now the xserver won't want to start. The screen flickers and i get the following error: "(WW) RADEON(0): Failed to set up the write-combining range (0xc000000, 0x4000000)"
[02:46] <Orasis1> Morten_: It would seem that a lot of people have run into that error after updating, I think the Ubuntu forums talk more about it.
[02:46] <Nameeater> if I have put a new network card in, should ubuntu auto detect it?
[02:46] <Morten_> ohh ok, thanks alot, ill try the forums :)
[02:46] <Nameeater> I booted DSL and it picks it up so the card definately works
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: Is it wireless?
[02:47] <Nameeater> no, ethernet
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: What model of card / chipset?
[02:48] <Nameeater> realtek RTL8139 DSL says
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Gimme a minute ...
[02:49] <kexman> Jack_Sparrow,  ? :)
[02:49] <kexman> pfff
[02:49] <kexman> no originality ?
[02:50] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> help my X-server crashed
[02:51] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> And it said my GDM can't laod
[02:51] <cbx33> does anyone have an estimate of the number of ubuntu machines in use today
[02:52] <cbx33> does anyone have an estimate of the number of ubuntu machines in use today
[02:52] <der0b> orasis1: as they are just examples, I don't see why not.  it IS your machine.
[02:52] <instabin> how do i install libc headers
[02:52] <cbx33> and also the number of linux machines inuse today as desktop machines not servers
[02:52] <instabin> !libc
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Windy> hmm
[02:52] <Windy> so
[02:52] <instabin> !libc headers
[02:52] <Windy> no answers for the nm-applet thing?
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <instabin> !libc header
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc header - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <jrib> instabin: install build-essential
[02:53] <instabin> thanks jrib
[02:53] <instabin> im building the nvidia driver
[02:54] <ompaul> cbx33, there is a figure that says about 7 million
[02:54] <SillyZ> jrib: yup rebooting after installing gxmms-xmms did the trick
[02:54] <instabin> jrib : how do  install kernal sources
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: Sorry, a hint from the bladder is stronger than a kings command
[02:54] <SillyZ> jrib: thanks again for all your help
[02:54] <saiko> hi, what soft do you people use to edit ID3 tags in mp3 ?
[02:54] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> hmm Gnome seems to be broken on my side. I can start KDE server
[02:54] <ompaul> cbx33, with an 8% growth per month or something like that
[02:54] <sysdoc> instabin, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[02:54] <instabin> !kernal source
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: could you walk Nameeater through setting up his ethernet card.  You are way better at it.
[02:55] <ompaul> cbx33, the latter part I would not worry about but the figure I am very comfortable with
[02:55] <ompaul> cbx33, as in 7 million
[02:55] <cbx33> heh
[02:55] <cbx33> is that worldwide ?
[02:55] <kromel> Morning everyone
[02:56] <cbx33> ompaul ;)
[02:56] <instabin> how do i install ubuntu's kernel source
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel
[02:56] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:56] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> How do I reinstall Gnome Desktop, after it crashed and fails to load?
[02:56] <der0b> nanaki_yamabushi: did it start failing to load after you changed your theme?
[02:57] <sysdoc> instabin, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper <<<all you need to know it right here
[02:57] <jrib> instabin: install linux-source
[02:57] <Nameeater> Jack_Sparrow: any chance of even a nudge in the right direction or are you not sure? :|
[02:57] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: I don't know much about that
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:58] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> der0b:Well I changed no theme, I started it and wanted to start Gaim, then it suddenly crashed on me and get a screen telling my X-server failed and that GDM can't be loaded, but I can load KDE desktop, but Gnome still locks up starting anything.
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: Go to term and type..    lspci and look for your card, just to be sure
[02:58] <instabin> Thank you jrib
[02:58] <instabin> again
[02:59] <Nameeater> Jack_Sparrow nothing shows up, nothing at all
[02:59] <jrib> instabin: there are packages for the nvidia driver already available though
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: next go to system admin networking and see if your ethernet is listed there
[03:00] <MattJ> aaargggh
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: Nothing shows up in terminal when you type L S P C I last one is "Eye"  lower case
[03:00] <MattJ> I've given up.... ATI and Ubuntu don't mix
[03:00] <Mnabil> hello, i 've gcc4 and i install gcc 2.95,    how can i use the gcc 2.95 to run the menuconfig of da kernel 2.4.x  ?
[03:00] <octan_> do i need other repos for ubuntu 64 bit version?
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> MattJ: Lots of people using them
[03:01] <MattJ> Except me
[03:01] <Nameeater> Jack: nup, its pretty strange that nothing at all shows up with lspci isnt it?, I'm sure I spelt it right
[03:01] <MattJ> Ok, I am
[03:01] <MattJ> but with 11FPS
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> MattJ: the 300 is a real orphan but other than that people seem to get them working
[03:02] <instabin> Jrib: that didnt work I need to install the kernel sources for 2.6.15-26-server
[03:02] <der0b> nanaki_yamabushi: I don't know of a way to reinstall gnome, but you can try removing all of your custom settings for it.  go into kde, open the file manager, view hidden files and folders..  move all of the .gnome* dirs from your home dir to a backup location, and try and log into gnome.  if it's actually GDM failing, I don't *think* this will help.  but it's worth a try.  You can always move the .gnome folders back if it's a failure
[03:02] <hmpedersen> Hi
[03:02] <MattJ> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550] 
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: really strange...  Is this a fresh install.. or have you done much to change it?
[03:02] <MattJ> I've tried everything
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater:Go to system admin networking and see if your ethernet is listed there
[03:03] <Dink> The only way Ive gotten my ati card to work properly is to use 2.6.7.13 kernel
[03:03] <Nameeater> pretty much freshinstall, first network card didnt work, no lspci then, put this one in, still doesnt work and nothing on lspci, but the card 100% worked in DSL 10 minutes ago when I booted it :)
[03:03] <Nameeater> its not :/
[03:03] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> And what if the GDM failed? Right now I am in KDE and it works fine for me right now. The crash ocured after Gaim was failing and Licq Failed with an error, which disappeared way to fast
[03:03] <hmpedersen> Can anyone help me with drivers for a wlan card? rt2500 chipset
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: Did you use automatix or easyubuntu ? Not that I would recommend them especially without a backup...
[03:04] <foxiness> am using tar to do a fullbacku "serverl time" this include windowsXP ;) , but i want to know if there a way simpler than tar and safe?
[03:04] <Nameeater> nope
[03:04] <MattJ> Dink: Perhaps that's my prob
[03:04] <instabin> How do i install the source for kernel 2.6.15-26-server
[03:05] <Dink> It fixed ALOT of mine
[03:05] <der0b> nanaki_yamabushi: I don't know, I've given you almost all I have.  the only other thing I would change temporarily would be to change the KDE GTK settings to NOT apply gtk themes.  that broke gnome for me, I just changed it to the blank option and everything was fixed.
[03:05] <MattJ> I just always get the mesa driver showing up
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> foxiness: One line in a terminal isnt that hard, but you can use sbackup
[03:05] <Dink> hmm
[03:06] <MattJ> This is where I currently am at:
[03:06] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> Well All I then can think of is reinstallign my laptop fully, but as long KDE holds out I can move my file to my PC
[03:06] <raychen> hi folks
[03:06] <MattJ>  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 5379 using kernel context 0
[03:06] <MattJ> 5379 is X
[03:06] <instabin> !kernel
[03:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:06] <der0b> nanaki_yamabushi: at least try what I've explained, or wait for somebody else to help you.  chances are this is fixable
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> MattJ: You really didnt need to change your kernel to get that working. Now that you have made that change and others I would not know where to start.
[03:07] <raychen> is ubunto install or livecd?
[03:07] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> Yep, well for now I need to do stuff. i will ask later again or tomorrow if it still occurs
[03:07] <der0b> I haven't had anything unfixable yet.  unless you trash something as superuser
[03:07] <MattJ> I've done nothing to my kernel, other than run the standard update manager
[03:08] <MattJ> now it's: 2.6.15-26-386
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: With nothing showing when you do lspci there is something wrong at a level I do not understand, especially on a fresh install..
[03:08] <foxiness> Jack_Sparrow k,then its still a simpler on the planet :)
[03:09] <Nameeater> ok :( its really wierd that it prints everything just dandy under damnsmalllinux
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: run the livecd and see if you connect
[03:09] <Dink> MattJ, im updating a script for you to use... basically does it all for you... hold a sec
[03:09] <MattJ> Thanks :)
[03:10] <hmpedersen> Can nobody help me on my driver issue?
[03:10] <MattJ> Though I warn you I've tried everything
[03:10] <Nameeater> will give it a go
[03:10] <hmpedersen> This is what has forced me away from linux every time before..
[03:10] <MattJ> Except *not* updating before I install the drivers
[03:10] <Bluetooth> hi
[03:10] <Bluetooth> I got a problem with X server
[03:10] <Bluetooth> it doesn't start after I install an update
[03:11] <Bluetooth> says GLcore loading failed
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: Driver for what piece of hardware...
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > Bluetooth
[03:11] <hmpedersen> wlan card. rt2500 chipset. As I mentioned twice in the chat earlier (within the last 5 minutes)
[03:12] <Bluetooth> ok
[03:12] <Bluetooth> so what could be the reason and how to solve my problem?
[03:14] <foxiness> !foxiness
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: It now shows 6:11 here.. I went back 5 minutes and didnt see it which is why I asked...
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foxiness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <hmpedersen> Jack(i can't find underscore on this keyboard layout)Sparrow, do you know how to find that driver for ubuntu?
[03:16] <hmpedersen> On the live disc it recognizes the card but refuse to activate it.. once installed, it doesn't exist..
[03:16] <hmpedersen> (once 6.06 is installed, that is)
[03:16] <jpjacobs> Hi guy's I burned a seccond session on a cd with k3b. now i can read everything in ubuntu, but only the first session in windows? what has gone wrong?
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[03:17] <hmpedersen> I can't, and I won't, drag a 200m lan cable with me around the place just to be on the internet when using ubuntu..
[03:17] <mjr> I suppose it's possible that you burned joliet extensions on the first session but not on the second, or similar inconsistencies
[03:18] <louis_> hi
[03:18] <hmpedersen> Bluetooth, I don't know any solution to your problem. Besides, I think this is an english channel..
[03:18] <louis_> who can help me
[03:18] <Bluetooth> ok
[03:18] <jpjacobs> mjr, right that could be it as the first session had been burned by nero. do you know what the nero defaults are (with rockridge/joliet stuff etc)
[03:18] <Bluetooth> nobody can
[03:19] <hmpedersen> louis, nobody. You didn't state an issue
[03:19] <Bluetooth> :(
[03:19] <jpjacobs> !ask> louis_
[03:19] <louis_> i want update my firefox
[03:19] <louis_> what i can do
[03:19] <mjr> jpjacobs, no, but it's a windows burner, so I highly suspect it does put joliet in there
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: if all else fails you can use ndiswrapper   ,         it looks like you need to build your driver http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/rt2500
[03:19] <Assassin5> what does the packages (x)ubuntu-desktop contain? is it critical to the window manager?
[03:20] <Bluetooth> louis_, just launch update manager
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/rt2500-source
[03:20] <jpjacobs> mjr, thanks for the help, i'll google about nero def's
[03:20] <hmpedersen> Jack_sparrow, I tried. That'll crash ubuntu (First time I've ever seen ubuntu crash) when used with the windows driver for this wlan card
[03:20] <hmpedersen> either it'll crash, or identify the card and refuse to use it (as the live disc is doing)
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: They try ndiswrapper or but a card that has better support
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> buy
[03:22] <exmethx_livecd> hallo @ all
[03:22] <exmethx_livecd> i have a very strangy problem
[03:22] <louis_> i have finished the update manage
[03:22] <hmpedersen> Jack, I purchased this because it came with linux drivers.. Except ubuntu don't want to use them
[03:22] <exmethx_livecd> and need your help
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: Neither of the links I provided say anything about trying to use the windows driver in Ubuntu
[03:22] <louis_> and  i have restart my system
[03:23] <exmethx_livecd> i activated antialiasing with aticonfig... before that i made a backup of my xorg.conf
[03:23] <louis_> but the firefox doesnt updated
[03:23] <exmethx_livecd> later is replaced the "FSAA activated" xorg.conf with my backup
[03:23] <hmpedersen> jack, thanks. I had a bad lag, and that link with the source slipped past without me seeing it
[03:24] <exmethx_livecd> and now my xserver isnt starting
[03:24] <exmethx_livecd> it is freezing
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: I have seen lots of hardware that "Comes with linux drivers" that are virtually impossible to compile or get working with more than a single distro
[03:24] <exmethx_livecd> no chance to go to a shelll to reconfigure my xserver
[03:24] <MattJ> I never knew not to buy ATI :)
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> hmpedersen: np.. just trying to help
[03:25] <MattJ> exmethx_livecd: Not even in recovery mode?
[03:25] <hmpedersen> If only it was possible to find the drivers already compiled..
[03:25] <exmethx_livecd> but that means that aticonfig did something else than only add the FSAA lines to my xorg.conf
[03:25] <saloxin> is it a known issue that http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is blank?
[03:25] <saloxin> i canfix my sources.list, but i'm not sure all ubuntu users can
[03:25] <exmethx_livecd> AND
[03:26] <exmethx_livecd> the strangest: my xserver is also not starting with ati as driver
[03:26] <MattJ> exmethx_livecd: Reconfigure X?
[03:27] <exmethx_livecd> MattJ: i a now at the live cd
[03:27] <louis_> i t was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages.
[03:27] <MattJ> Can't you just log into a console?
[03:27] <exmethx_livecd> MattJ: and i have mounted the root partition of my installation to change my xorg.conf
[03:27] <louis_> vim
[03:27] <louis_> vim-common
[03:27] <louis_> vim-runtime
[03:28] <exmethx_livecd> MattJ: reconfigure my xserver under the live cd?
[03:28] <louis_> why ?
[03:28] <MattJ> exmethx_livecd: No, log in to console on your install, and reconfigure it there
[03:28] <TheSheep> is it possible that lilo somehow zeroes some bytes of the first (windows) partition when booting?
[03:28] <Nameeater> I think my problem is I need a better kernel after searching forums, how can I work out what packages I need to dl for the box so I can burn them to dvd and install them?
[03:29] <Nameeater> since I cant connect to the internet on that box with no network
[03:29] <cyzie> is ubuntu support itanium2 processor ?
[03:29] <erUSUL> !info apt-zip
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> TheSheep: Lilo?  Grub is the std bootloader
[03:29] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.13.5 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB
[03:29] <exmethx_livecd> MattJ: that ist my Problem ! when i boot the pc is freezed when xserver is loaded
[03:30] <octan_> cyzie, why not
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: what happened when you ran the livecd
[03:30] <cyzie> im just want to confirm
[03:30] <cyzie> because i try on hp integrity 2600
[03:30] <exmethx_livecd> MattJ: is it possible to load from grub without loading the xserver?
[03:30] <MattJ> Ctrl + Alt + 1 doesn't work?
[03:30] <exmethx_livecd> no
[03:30] <hmpedersen> Allow to to say.. Ubuntu is now on my order saying "Bye bye Vista RC1" :D
[03:30] <cyzie> apparently the installer didnt bootup
[03:30] <exmethx_livecd> strg alt entf doesnt work , too
[03:30] <MattJ> Then we need to stop X starting
[03:30] <MattJ> DOn't know how to do that :/
[03:30] <octan_> cyzie, it supports all the kernel does.. and the kernel supports about all cpu types there is
[03:31] <Nameeater> Jack_Sparrow same thing, doesnt show up
[03:31] <exmethx_livecd> mmmh
[03:31] <cyzie> octan_, i see.
[03:31] <erUSUL> MattJ: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: what about lspci  does not show anything?
[03:31] <Nameeater> nothing at all
[03:31] <Dink> Mattj, you still around ??
[03:31] <MattJ> Dink: Patient as ever :)
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: Did you have the cd do a self test for errors?
[03:31] <Dink> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1497757&postcount=91
[03:31] <Dink> try that
[03:32] <cyzie> anyone has experience installing ubuntu LTS on HP itanium2 box?
[03:32] <Dink> its not 100% guarenteed but it worked for me as i updated it myself ;)
[03:32] <Nameeater> Jack_Sparrow: no, I'll do that in a sec, but that is the CD I installed this perfect system with so it would be odd
[03:32] <TheSheep> Jack_Sparrow: yes, but grub doesn't allow me to set passwords
[03:32] <Dink> btw hit ctrl-c at the very end of it and check for any errors
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: watch as it tests the cd..
[03:32] <Dink> to be on the safe side
[03:33] <Dink> i just took the previous script and updated it abit
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> TheSheep: You need to ask in Lilo, as (almost) none of us here use it
[03:33] <TheSheep> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[03:33] <Dink> i have to go to work now but if you want to wait 30min or so.. when I get back i can help you
[03:33] <MattJ> Thanks
[03:33] <erUSUL> TheSheep: grub does support passwords iirc
[03:34] <MattJ> btw, is it right to have 2 entries for linux in grub after updating?
[03:34] <MattJ> after apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> MattJ: yes.
[03:34] <TheSheep> erUSUL: well, I have lilo set up on 300 machines already, so I guess I will stick with it :)
[03:34] <MattJ> ok :)
[03:34] <Dink> MattJ send me a pm
[03:35] <MattJ> Now? :)
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> MattJ: You can edit the grub list when it gets too long..  :)
[03:35] <Dink> ill respond when I get back here at work
[03:35] <Dink> yea
[03:35] <MattJ> Dink: Thanks
[03:35] <Dink> here from work*
[03:35] <MattJ> Jack_Sparrow: lol
[03:35] <Dink> remote in ;)
[03:35] <Dink> this will be my good deed for today :P
[03:35] <MattJ> Dink: Thanks :D
[03:35] <erUSUL> TheSheep: no problems with that i was only pointing out that grub can be password protected
[03:35] <Dink> waiting for the pm
[03:36] <Dink> i do need to go to work you know :P
[03:36] <MattJ> Dink: Oh bother
[03:36] <MattJ> I'm not registered with freenode
[03:36] <CyberSky> !sources.list
[03:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:36] <MattJ> Someone stole my nick a long time ago, never got around to getting it back
[03:36] <Dink> ok well ill be back in 30min if you want to wait cool if not and want to jump in good luck :P
[03:37] <Dink> bbl
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> MattJ: The registration process is long and complicated, there are forms and fees..   :)  Sorry for the off-topic
[03:37] <MattJ> Jack_Sparrow: lol :P
[03:37] <MattJ> Jack_Sparrow: Still, if someone takes my nick, and they haven't logged in for a year...
[03:38] <TheSheep> ok, one more questions, are there any problems with grub and xfs on ubuntu?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> MattJ: I think it is 60 days
[03:39] <maxb_at_work> MattJ: No freenode staffers on duty now (/stats p), but as soon as you can find one, they should happily kill the old registration
[03:39] <kryptoz> Is Ubuntu good with dell laptops ?
[03:39] <kryptoz> guy ! ?
[03:39] <jrib> kryptoz: works well on my inspiron8200
[03:39] <kryptoz> cool .. i am installing it
[03:39] <hid3> Hello everyone. I'd like the new directories which are created via ftp to be chmod'ed to 775 automatically. What value of "umask" option should I give to my ftp daemon?
[03:40] <jrib> hid3: 002
[03:40] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea how to make gnome more streamlined in ubuntu?  things are rather "puffy".
[03:40] <kryptoz> going on thru 85%. I am worried about the wireless and synaptic driver.
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kryptoz: Try the live cd first... see if it finds all your hardware.
[03:40] <fulat2k> kryptoz: works good on del d600
[03:40] <hid3> jrib: thanks
[03:40] <The_STIG> TheSheep, last time I tried Xfs didnot work, no bootloader
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kryptoz: C610 are ok too
[03:40] <kryptoz> yeah live cd looks fine. So i started installation from the live cd itself
[03:40] <UdontKnow> MattJ: (1158241222 10:40) [freenode]  -*NickServ(NickServ@services.)- The nickname [mattj]  has been dropped
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kryptoz: great, glad to have you here
[03:41] <MattJ> Still tells me it's owned when I log in
[03:41] <UdontKnow> MattJ: I just did that
[03:41] <kryptoz> me having a insp 710m. Live cd was a good experience so i decided ubuntu on top of slackware and debian untill the grand dadies have a new release
[03:41] <kryptoz> thanx Jack_Sparrow
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:42] <NET||abuse> hi, i was looking to get the java sdk onto ubuntu, what repo has it?
[03:42] <MattJ> Ah, great :)
[03:42] <NET||abuse> also, is netbeans any use for ubuntu?
[03:42] <Nameeater> Jack: I got a mismatch on something but I'm not sure what :|
[03:42] <erUSUL> !java
[03:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:42] <Nameeater> I think it may have been the linux-wlan-ng package
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: that explains alot...   burn another but this time slower.. and test it before the install..
[03:43] <Nameeater> if I made an iso of this CD will it be corrupt? :/
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: You can have an install that boots but have problems that are hidden until later...
[03:44] <ThomasZ> hmm. Anyone can tell me how to disable the function at startup where it asks for the rootpwd or ctrl-d on an error? I want the bug to be silently ignored.
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: do an md5sum....
[03:44] <peacefulmunda> Jack_sparrow: nice nick jack sparrow
[03:44] <kryptoz> got it installed now booting up ! Though my grub doesn't have a splash screen menu ..
[03:44] <Nameeater> ah good point, thanks, time for bed I think :)
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Nameeater: See you tomorrow
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: Thanks..  Not original... but memorable
[03:45] <mike> VNC help please. I have a 6.06 desktop computer and i want to connect to it with VNC from and other 6.06 machine. Can't get it to work, help please
[03:47] <Elij> mike: which VNC server are you using?
[03:47] <peacefulmunda> yeah
[03:48] <mike> Elij: I don't know, i apt-get install vnc4server but i don't know how to confiure
[03:48] <peacefulmunda> people i am new to ubuntu and i need help
[03:48] <Elij> hmm, well the easier way for you in that case may be to just use vino...
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: Sure, how may we serve you....
[03:48] <NthDegree> lol
[03:48] <peacefulmunda> can anyone tell me how to configure ubuntu behind an ISA server?
[03:48] <MattJ> UdontKnow: I'm registered, thanks :)
[03:49] <mike> If i would do it from scratch, what's the easist way to set up a VNC server?
[03:49] <valeriodeejay> lol
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> NthDegree: I didnt know if anyone would catch that...  :)
[03:49] <NthDegree> mike, use the vino app
[03:49] <valeriodeejay> 4 the horde!
[03:49] <NthDegree> mike, it's like Remote Assistance on Windows
[03:49] <peacefulmunda> jack sparrow: you seem to be cool man ... u know ur stuff .. right!
[03:50] <mike> Ok
[03:50] <Elij> mike: it's installed by default btw
[03:50] <mike> Thx, im gonna google/search
[03:50] <mike> ohh
[03:50] <peacefulmunda> the thing is that my internet provider uses ISA server and when i use windows i have to use the ISA server client to use net
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: I am on the low end, I help people form better questions and handle the easy ones so the more experienced can handle real problems
[03:51] <peacefulmunda> otherwise i am unable to use net even on windows
[03:51] <mike> Vino, so how do I go about setting it up?
[03:51] <Elij> not sure of the menu layout
[03:51] <Elij> but under preferences
[03:51] <Elij> there's an option "remote desktop"
[03:51] <peacefulmunda> Jack_Sparrow: do u know any exprienced users here?
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: I may not know, but I do listen.. :)
[03:52] <mike> Yes i have enable it
[03:52] <peacefulmunda> Jack_Sparrow: nice ... man do i like ur nick :P :D
[03:52] <Elij> ah... and you still can't connect?
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: If they know the answer they speak up...  I have not seen the isa issue before...  LEt me look at my notes...
[03:52] <mike> But, when i try to connect from my other computer it says connection refused
[03:52] <mike> I can ssh to the other machine
[03:52] <quiet> i'm trying to set up bugzilla and I keep getting a Forbidden page trying to access index.cgi. the checksetup.pl script finished successfully... it has created the mysql database tables and such.. i added everything to the 000-default site that it needs, I think? and the permissions are:  -rwxr-x--- 1 www-data www-data 2009 2005-10-30 15:31 index.cgi
[03:52] <mike> I ahve no firewall on it or lan
[03:52] <mike> on*
[03:53] <dantzig> hi, sorry my english. can anyone help me? my synaptic package manager says that libgtk2.0-bin conflicts with libgtk2.0-dev. i want to install libgtk2.0-dev. is there any problem? what will hapen? (i have installed libgtk2.0-bin)
[03:53] <erUSUL> peacefulmunda: you need to set up http://ntlmaps.sourceforge.net/ (also set proxy in apt.conf)
[03:53] <erUSUL> peacefulmunda: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Web-Browsing-Behind-ISA-Server-HOWTO.html
[03:54] <Elij> could you check if the process is running (ps -A | grep vino-server)
[03:55] <peacefulmunda> how can i listen mp3 and see divx on ubuntu?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: Found an artice but it is indonesian...  :(
[03:55] <erUSUL> !mp3
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > peacefulmunda
[03:56] <kryptoz> Hi guys .. i got the mode "1280x800" inside the xorg.conf. But when i try to change the resolution using the "screen resolution" gui it shows only 1280x786
[03:56] <dantzig> can you see my question? is there anything wrong with it?
[03:56] <kryptoz> how do i get this working
[03:56] <mike> yes, wait, sorry phone done now
[03:57] <erUSUL> dantzig: yes, does removing libgtk2.0-bin force the removing of anything you need? if not go ahead and remove it
[03:57] <NthDegree> kryptoz, exit X server
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: You may see enough usefull information on that blog to get you started...  http://ubuntulinux.or.id/blog/
[03:57] <kryptoz> okay and then ?
[03:57] <NthDegree> kryptoz, login and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:57] <kryptoz> k did
[03:57] <NthDegree> then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:57] <s-toned> VMware server: How do I exchange files between host and guest?
[03:58] <dantzig> thanx
[03:58] <mike> Elij: It gives me no output
[03:58] <NthDegree> s-toned: VMWare server is not officially supported by ubuntu :)
[03:58] <kryptoz> okay hold on NthDegree
[03:58] <NthDegree> s-toned: but to do so you use shared folders
[03:58] <NthDegree> s-toned:  it's on the properties of the virtual machine where you alter drives and stuff
[03:59] <dantzig> but, isnt libgtk2.0-bin necessary to make programs with libgtk?
[03:59] <s-toned> NthDegree: 1. pity   2. thanks     3. I'll have a look at that
[03:59] <NthDegree> s-toned:  then you make a folder on the host, set it to be shared and it should appear as a network driver
[03:59] <Elij> vino isn't running then, what have you set under the options?
[03:59] <NthDegree> drive*
[04:00] <kryptoz> cool NthDegree, let me start the x now :)
[04:00] <mike> Elij: Sorry for beeing a bit slow and thanks for the help. But under options where?
[04:01] <NthDegree> dpkg-reconfigurem should have let you configure an xorg.conf interactively, like a wizard kryptoz
[04:01] <NthDegree> dpkg-reconfigure*
[04:01] <bezibaerchen> lol: "find / -name \*yourbase\* -exec chown us:us {}"
[04:02] <peacefulmunda> Jack_Sparrow: can google translate it?
[04:02] <ThomasZ> bezibaerchen: use chown are.us instead ;)
[04:02] <dantzig> thank you, im going to try
[04:02] <kryptoz> NthDegree: i chose 1280*800 during the configuration but once i start the gdm its all same
[04:02] <kryptoz> :(
[04:03] <kryptoz> let me try again
[04:03] <bezibaerchen> ThomasZ: no, because are belong to us, it's alright :-)
[04:03] <mar_cus> hello, problems with cupsd, can someone spare a minute?
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> peacefulmunda: Most likely
[04:03] <roh_> Im having trouble mounting a hard drive. in terminal the mount command acts as if its working but it doesnt really mount
[04:04] <NthDegree> kryptoz: you need to choose ONLY 1280*800
[04:04] <mar_cus> roh_
[04:04] <ThomasZ> is there some hardware detection app run at startup?  I see loads of modules loaded that nobody needs and my wifi fails to work due to it. (unloading lost of modules and my wifi works..)
[04:04] <mar_cus> what do you mean it doesn't
[04:04] <roh_> mar_cus, yes?
[04:04] <mar_cus> have you cheked the folder you mounted it to, coz pmount acts a little strange sometimes
[04:04] <NthDegree> kryptoz: if you want it guaranteed that you get 1280*800 choose ONLY that from the list and deselect the others
[04:05] <roh_> mar_cus, how do you mean? im a bit of a newb
[04:05] <mar_cus> ok, first, what is the filesystem of your drivee
[04:05] <mar_cus> drive*
[04:05] <roh_> mar_cus, I check through desktop and the disk manager program and its not showing as mounted. If I could remember whwere fstab is id check that
[04:05] <roh_> ext3
[04:06] <roh_> ive mounted it on other ditros with no problem.
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> gedit  /etc/fstab
[04:06] <roh_> Its not there... Ill have to try and place it manually...
[04:07] <roh_> Im just not sure how with this one... x_x
[04:07] <mar_cus> I see, I had somewhat the same thing before, the pmount(grapchical mount thing you can add to panel) doesn't seem to detect some partitions(it didn't for me(sure someone on this channel knows how to solve it though...))
[04:07] <mar_cus> aw
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab
[04:07] <mike> Does anyone know how I start vino-server?
[04:07] <mar_cus> shouldn't he just test mount it with mount first jack?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mar_cus: I thought he did..
[04:08] <roh_> mar_cus, if its not showing in fstab its not mounted.
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mar_cus: Walk him through it...
[04:08] <mar_cus> sure :)
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> roh_: FYI  here is my root ext3 config  /dev/sda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:09] <kryptoz> NthDegree: i rechecked it. There is only 1280*800 selected and i chose medium to configure the screen in the dpkg-re.... and there also i selected 1280*800. Once its all done i started the gdm and i see the sasme resolution :(
[04:09] <roh_> bit of spam here. sorry.
[04:09] <roh_> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:09] <roh_> #
[04:09] <roh_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:09] <roh_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:09] <roh_> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:09] <roh_> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:09] <roh_> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:09] <kloptops> hrmmm, i seem to have a problem, i rebooted my pc, and now the nvidia kernel drivers refuse to load ;/
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> roh_: Please use the pastebin                    888 users here...
[04:10] <roh_> holy crap.
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> roh_: Even a little spam is too much
[04:10] <Assassin5> has hotplug been replaced by something else in dapper?
[04:10] <NthDegree> kryptoz, 1280*800 is a cr@p resolution so it would make sense if it didn't work well :p
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:10] <mar_cus> roh_ do this: fisrt create a dir in /media/ which name is the same as the drive you want to mount
[04:11] <mar_cus> youll have to do it as su or sudo :)
[04:11] <NthDegree> kryptoz, 1024*768 would probably be better
[04:11] <roh_> mar_cus, actually I was hoping to mount it to a dir i already created in home. That not possible
[04:11] <mar_cus> ofcourse
[04:11] <NthDegree> roh_: you can
[04:11] <mar_cus> ok which is the dir and what is the name of the drive?
[04:11] <roh_> let me show you the command that failed on me.
[04:12] <winjer> how can i specify a local apt-proxy server as an ubuntu repository in the netboot installer?
[04:12] <winjer> anyone any idea?
[04:12] <roh_> roh@Roh:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc5 /home/user/storage
[04:12] <winjer> it provides a list of servers, but you can't change them
[04:12] <roh_> doh let me adjust that. typed wrong.
[04:12] <roh_> roh@Roh:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc5 /home/roh/storage
[04:12] <mar_cus> sure
[04:12] <mar_cus> try to cd to it
[04:12] <roh_> This acted as it had when it worked in the past but didnt place it in fstab
[04:13] <mar_cus> ohh, it won't be placed in fstab :)
[04:13] <roh_> nothin there
[04:13] <mar_cus> you'll have to add it yourself(sry Jack :))
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mar_cus: np
[04:13] <Yasuo> hi
[04:13] <roh_> mar_cus, Hrm... Okay what would i want for the dump and pass deals?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> mar_cus: Finish walking him through it..
[04:14] <tyler_d> anyone know how to rebuild your sources.list file so that your add/remove programs works, (made the mistake of using easyubuntu)??
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[04:14] <SillyZ> mornin.... q: Azureus keeps crashing when attempting to start.... any ideas?
[04:14] <mar_cus> :)
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[04:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:14] <Yasuo> i installed ubuntu dapper_amd64 but cannot view wmv9-videos. xine and w32codecs_i386 are installed
[04:14] <mar_cus> ok Jack let me just take a look
[04:14] <mar_cus> roh*
[04:14] <Yasuo> where do i get mplayer and w32codecs for amd64?
[04:14] <TheSheep> ok, tried to install grub. grub-install says that /boot/grub/stage1 cannot be read correctly. grub itself claims there is no device (hd0)\
[04:14] <mar_cus>  /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw    #is this the one you have now?
[04:14] <jbroome> Yasuo: you don't get w32codecw for 64.  Hence the "32" in w32condecs
[04:15] <tyler_d> Jack_Sparrow: tried that yesterday jack, any other ideas though?
[04:15] <roh_> mar_cus, thats my swap file. the one im trying to mount is hdc5
[04:15] <Yasuo> there is no w64codecs because there are afaikno special codecs for windows 64bit
[04:15] <rasputnik> Yasuo: thought amd64 runs 32 bit too? forget about windows.
[04:15] <mar_cus> ohh, I while there I thought you where really stupid :D
[04:16] <mar_cus> turned out I was the stupid one ;)
[04:16] <jbroome> !w32codecs
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <rasputnik> Yasuo: try just getting the codec tarfiles straight from the mplayer website
[04:16] <roh_> mar_cus, Im a total linux newb.
[04:17] <Yasuo> installing em from the website will be better then using the.deb-package?
[04:17] <mar_cus> /dev/hdc5       /home/roh/...               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:17] <DexterF> !cups
[04:17] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:17] <mar_cus> replace the ... with the dir, I didn't remember which one you wanted
[04:17] <rasputnik> Yasuo: I think so, yes. worth a go anyway.
[04:17] <Yasuo> well i dont wanna try out too much and mess up my system
[04:17] <SillyZ> azureus keeps crashing upon startup, any ideas??
[04:17] <roh_> mar_cus, ah thanks man
[04:18] <mar_cus> no prob, hope it works
[04:18] <roh_> mar_cus, is that set up to be a secondary drive? the line i mean
[04:18] <Crescendo> Ubuntu should enter discussion with Sun and Adobe about adding Java and Flash to the LiveCD only, using a free license.
[04:18] <Yasuo> i i have to install codecs/essential-20060611.tar.bz2 ?
[04:18] <Yasuo> s/i i/so i/
[04:19] <kloptops> hrmmmm, i've got a problem with my nvidia kernel module not loading, and i've little to no idea why
[04:19] <mar_cus> there is no such thing in linux :), it'll boot to the things you configured in greub (or lilo)
[04:19] <mar_cus> grub*
[04:19] <rasputnik> Yasuo: yes, untar it, then cp the contents into a /usr/lib/codecs directory
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_d: Reinstall backup or fresh and DONT use Automatix or Easyubuntu ...
[04:19] <roh_> mar_cus, ah. noticed it was the same as my system partition so i asked.
[04:19] <DexterF> when I configure a printer with cups interface on localhost:631 it asks for a root passwd. well, duh. what am I supposed to do?
[04:20] <mar_cus> no problemo :)
[04:20] <CyberSky> !xmms
[04:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:20] <der0b> is it possible to dd an NTFS partition to a file and then read it back to a different hard disk?
[04:20] <rasputnik> Yasuo: doh, I mean '/usr/lib/win32'. that's where mine are, I can play almost everything
[04:20] <mar_cus> oh sry!
[04:20] <mar_cus> roh
[04:20] <roh_> mar_cus, O_o
[04:20] <mar_cus> you're right fuck me :)
[04:20] <roh_> mar_cus, is it okay if i pass on the second part?
[04:20] <kryptoz> Hey Guys my resolution worked fine now after installing "915resolution" package ! cool
[04:20] <DexterF> der0b: yes
[04:20] <Yasuo> how do i prevent cp from overwriting files?
[04:20] <tyler_d> ok lets try another one.... anyone know how to get nfsmw installed?
[04:21] <mar_cus> /dev/sda4       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[04:21] <rasputnik> Yasuo: just let it.
[04:21] <kloptops> anyone have any idea?
[04:21] <JosefK> DexterF: 'sudo passwd' to set a root password
[04:21] <DexterF> der0b: partition size better matches
[04:21] <mar_cus> this is one of my for instance
[04:21] <kryptoz> Yasuo: you can put cp -i as alias for cp
[04:21] <DexterF> JosefK: permanent?
[04:21] <der0b> dexterf: you can just resize the part after the fact no?
[04:21] <roh_> mar_cus, so just defaults and 2 for pass?
[04:21] <SillyZ> sudo passwd root
[04:21] <SillyZ> try that
[04:21] <JosefK> DexterF: yes
[04:21] <mar_cus> yes
[04:21] <mar_cus> (not an expert my self)
[04:22] <DexterF> der0b: depends on your tools
[04:22] <der0b> figured.  that much I can handle, was just wondering about dd.  thanks for the info.
[04:22] <roh_> mar_cus, does it matter how many spaces their are inbetween this crap?
[04:22] <tokenbad> can someone help me figure this out?  bash: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:22] <rasputnik> roh_: no
[04:22] <mar_cus> it's like throuing args in a program
[04:23] <rasputnik> tokenbad: that's usually trailing spaces in the 'shebang'
[04:23] <roh_> Now I sure as hell cant remember the command to reload that file without rebooting. anyone know off hand?
[04:23] <j`ey> how do I install java? can I do it through apt-get ?
[04:23] <JosefK> tokenbad: edit the file and change the first line to '#!/usr/bin/env sh'
[04:23] <Yasuo> rasputnik Yasuo: doh, I mean '/usr/lib/win32'. that's where mine are, I can play almost everything <<< doe not work
[04:23] <mar_cus> roh_ sry
[04:23] <rasputnik> roh_: you don't reload fstab. just try to mount something
[04:23] <Yasuo> however, where do i get mplayer from?
[04:23] <Yasuo> mplayer_amd64
[04:23] <mar_cus> just mount it with mount for now :)
[04:24] <roh_> rasputnik, I tried that and it didnt work.
[04:24] <rasputnik> Yasuo: Yasuo believe it's in multiverse
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> DexterF: Did your normal user password not work?
[04:24] <mar_cus> what you mean? roh_
[04:24] <tokenbad> rasputnik, JosefK did...still get same error
[04:24] <DexterF> Jack_Sparrow: no
[04:24] <rasputnik> roh_: any errors?
[04:24] <mar_cus> if you can't mount it with mount, it shouldn't work putting it fstab
[04:25] <Yasuo> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:25] <Yasuo> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:25] <roh_> rasputnik, none in term. acted just as if it had worked but nothing showed through cd in term gui or in the gui disk manager
[04:25] <Yasuo> do i need more entries?
[04:25] <rasputnik> tokenbad: try sh /path/to/script. If that works, it's definitely your shebang line
[04:25] <Yasuo> language doesnt matter btw.-
[04:25] <roh_> mar_cus, its possible i screwed up the mount command.
[04:25] <peacefulmunda> rasputnik: can u help me man?
[04:25] <rasputnik> roh_: what does 'ls /mountpoint' say
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> roh_: Could you run gparted for me and tell us what partitions and drives it sees?
[04:26] <roh_> mar_cus, rasputnik think i did... sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc5 /the/path
[04:26] <tokenbad> rasputnik, got this:  ./nwn: line 12: ./nwmain: Permission denied
[04:26] <Sims26> hi
[04:26] <mar_cus> that should work roh_
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> mar_cus: Sorry, didnt mean to interrupt
[04:26] <roh_> ls: /mountpoint: No such file or directory
[04:26] <Sims26> i need som help
[04:26] <ine> zo daar ben ik dan
[04:26] <Sims26> some
[04:26] <mar_cus> it won't come on the desktop though, no prob jack :)
[04:26] <rasputnik> tokenbad: then ./nwmain either isn't readable, or isn't executable
[04:27] <roh_> Jack_Sparrow, dont know gparted
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !dk
[04:27] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[04:27] <migue> q pasa
[04:27] <CookieReaver> Hokay, I'm having a bit of a problem. Can anybody help real quick?
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[04:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:27] <rasputnik> roh_: sorry, I meant 'mountpoint' to be 'whereever you mounted it'
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> CookieReaver: Ask your question and wait your turn...   we will get to you
[04:27] <roh_> rasputnik, nothin there. at all.
[04:27] <j`ey> how do I install java? can I do it through apt-get ?
[04:28] <rasputnik> roh_: I've walked in halfway through - what are you trying to mount, anyway
[04:28] <roh_> rasputnik, only way i could get it to mount is with the default disk manager program and it wont sav
[04:28] <roh_> rasputnik, /dev/hdc5 to /home/roh/storage
[04:29] <rasputnik> j`ey: install sun-java5-jdk
[04:29] <kloptops> hrmmmm, i've got a problem with my nvidia kernel module not loading, is anyone able to help us?
[04:29] <CookieReaver> Can do. The problem is this, I have an mp3 player here that uses flash memory. I don't know how to detect it as a device though. Does Ubuntu do that automatically? I so, where is it?
[04:29] <rasputnik> roh_: and 'sudo mount /dev/hdc5 /home/roh/storage' doesn't work?
[04:29] <j`ey> rasputnik: thanks
[04:29] <roh_> rasputnik, ill try again
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> CookieReaver: It should show up as a usb drive on the desktop when you plug it in.
[04:30] <Sims26> my laptop goes in standby every 5 minutes, i tryed apm=off acpm=off in grub but it wont work ... i have ubuntu6.06
[04:30] <Sims26> what can i do to turn that off?
[04:30] <rasputnik> roh_: then run 'mount' and see if /home/roh/storage shows up
[04:31] <CookieReaver> Hm... That's troubling. It doesn't.
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> kloptops: How did you install the drivers.?
[04:31] <roh_> rasputnik, it worked... son of ah.. I was using -t because thats how i was shown mount the first time i used it
[04:31] <roh_> rasputnik, but as far as i could tell i was doing it right.
[04:31] <monkey13> I have a 90gig folder full of sub folder withj mp3s, I'm looking for a good app or shell script that will let me search and remove duplicate files.  Any suggestions?
[04:31] <j`ey> rasputnik: cant find it
 my laptop goes in standby every 5 minutes, i tryed apm=off acpm=off in grub but it wont work ... i have ubuntu6.06
 what can i do to turn that off?
[04:31] <reptyle> Sims26, on the top menubar ... System > Preferences > Power Management
[04:32] <Sims26> sorry for paste
[04:32] <Sims26> i try
[04:32] <reptyle> !repeat > Sims26
[04:32] <Sims26> i have turned all of
[04:32] <kloptops> just through synaptic, its all standard. last time updated any of that stuff was a few weeks back when the whole xorg fiasco occured
[04:32] <mar_cus> so roh_ now it's fixed? did you add the line to fstab?
[04:32] <roh_> mar_cus, yea did that before.
[04:32] <roh_> mar_cus, hopefully it will actually work on booy
[04:32] <roh_> boot even
[04:33] <mar_cus> yep :)
 I have before ubuntu suse10.1 and the same problem, but i sloved it with apm=off pcpm=off
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> kloptops: Would you mind posting your xorg to the !Pastebin, people will probably need to see it..
[04:34] <roh_> well thanks for the help all.
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> roh_: you should be good to go..
[04:34] <marcagio> I am experiencing glitches with the video card... seems like everything is working fine and stable but when I play a game that uses a little bit of 3D it becomes verry slow... even with the minimum settings... i've installed the drivers from the ati website and still experiencing slowness :(
[04:35] <kendals> How do I get 6.06 to use my ALSA (intel) onboard sound card for output/playback, and my Logitech USB microphone (AK5370) for recording (or namely, to use in Skype/MSN/Anything!)
[04:35] <mar_cus> good luck with ubunut :)
[04:35] <kloptops> ok, 1min then :)
[04:35] <mar_cus> ubuntu*
[04:35] <abhi_> is there any software to autoshutdown the ubuntu( kshutdown not working )?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio:  please try glxgears -printfps in a terminal, wait a minute and tell us the fps
[04:35] <mar_cus> abhi_ what you mean?
[04:36] <mar_cus> just run sudo halt in terminal :)
[04:36] <abhi_> mar_cus:I want to shutdown ubuntu at a given time.
[04:36] <rasputnik> roh_: you can unmount it, then run 'sud mount -a' - that mounts any disks that are setup to automount at boot
[04:36] <mar_cus> hmm I think you can use shutdown for it, let me check
[04:36] <CyberSky> how to install printer Canon Pixma ip1000
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo mount -a  to re-read the fstab
[04:37] <roh_> somethin is acting funny....
[04:37] <marcagio> 1978 frames in 5.1 seconds = 385.496 FPS ... but what i see is not fluid at all
[04:37] <rasputnik> roh_: is it charlie chaplin?
[04:37] <kloptops> hrm, so now i just paste the link to the paste-bin page im on?
[04:37] <roh_> Jack_Sparrow, thanks. I sorta have to wait for something to finish now.
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio: as an example only.. my nvidia gets 5000+ fps
[04:37] <roh_> rasputnik, sadly... ubuntu is acting funny. things are locking up.
[04:37] <mar_cus> ok abhi_ how long time you want?
[04:38] <Yasuo> where do i get mplayer? wich sources may a add in my sources.list?
[04:38] <Yasuo> to
[04:38] <marcagio> so that means I probably have an issue there... I wonder what to do...
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio: Looks like your drivers are not setup correctly, could you post your xorg to the pastebin..
[04:38] <abhi_> mar_cus:let i want to shutdown at 5pm;
[04:38] <rasputnik> Yasuo: mplayer_amd64 is in 'multiverse'
[04:38] <manaPirat> Hello lads :)
[04:38] <marcagio> jack_Sparrow... pardon my newbeeness but how can I do that and what's the pastebin?
[04:38] <manaPirat> ehm quick question: what is the best way to systemwide add a path to ld_library_path?
[04:39] <mar_cus> ok, I thought you wanted time untill it should shutdown, just a sec
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > marcagio
[04:39] <Yasuo> rasputnik, i have to multiverse-entries but no mplayer
[04:39] <marcagio> how to I get the Xorg to display so i can copy it?
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio: gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  but first please use    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup   to make a backup before any editing
[04:39] <ootput> marcagio: copy it?
[04:40] <mar_cus> this should be it sudo shutdown -h 17:00
[04:40] <DexterF> mar_cus: I'd seriously add -t 5
[04:40] <rasputnik> Yasuo: it's definitely in dapper multiverse - have you 'apt-get update'd?
[04:41] <Yasuo> rasputnik, many times
[04:41] <mar_cus> sry (I think I'm thinking fucked up swedish time)
[04:41] <kendals> 	How do I get 6.06 to use my ALSA (intel) onboard sound card for output/playback, and my Logitech USB microphone (AK5370) for recording (or namely, to use in Skype/MSN/Anything!)?
[04:41] <billybennett> is something funny going on with the repos last night and today?
[04:41] <rasputnik> Yasuo: I quote:  Get: 1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse mplayer-amd64 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 [42.5kB] 
[04:41] <J4t> or $ halt | at 17:00
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Yasuo: Mplayer IS in the repos...
[04:41] <abhi_> thanks mar_cus.  how to disable it?
[04:41] <marcagio> man switching over to ubuntu is a challenge but I really love it =)
[04:41] <MattJ> You're telling me :)
[04:42] <marcagio> bill gates can eat my shorts =)
[04:42] <MattJ> lol, he can eat my ATI card
[04:42] <Yasuo>  http://nopaste.biz/?8038 << tahts my sources.list
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl, morning coffee with the wife... thanks for understanding...
[04:42] <marcagio> hahaha I wouldn't let my ATI go for anything... well... maybe for enough money to buy a new one
[04:42] <MattJ> Wish it was working here though :/
[04:42] <mar_cus> with the -c
[04:43] <MattJ> I'm getting a lovely 11FPS
[04:43] <rasputnik> Yasuo: that's just backports
[04:43] <mar_cus> sudo shutdown -c
[04:43] <ootput> an understanding wife is always a good thing ;)
[04:43] <rasputnik> Yasuo: try deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:43] <manaPirat> eeehm .. adding diractories to ld-path?
[04:43] <FliesLikeALap> is us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15) offline?
[04:43] <abhi_> ok thanks mar_cus.
[04:43] <marcagio> jack_Sparrow... my Xorg is up buddy
[04:44] <mar_cus> no prob,
[04:44] <kloptops> Jack_Sparrow: ok, my xorg is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23438 :)
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio: Need the NUMBER...
[04:45] <marcagio> number?
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> kloptops: change line 093 to read "nvidia"
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> See klops post above...?
[04:45] <kloptops> oh right, yeah it does normally have that :X
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio:   morning coffee with the wife... thanks for understanding... back in a few minutes, others will help when you post it
[04:47] <manaPirat> my /etc/profile is empty, ld.so.conf doesnt exists and bash.bashrc contains no relevant exports. I just dont want to hack it in somewhere
[04:47] <marcagio> ok well it is posted... you have a good coffee i'll keep on trying to figure this out hehe
[04:47] <Angelic2`> abhi_: cron ?
[04:48] <Angelic2`> manaPirat: what's the problem ?
[04:48] <abhi_> angelic2: I will try it now. thanks
[04:48] <manaPirat> i want to add another path do my ld-path
[04:48] <manaPirat> and dont know where the best place for this is to do
[04:48] <manaPirat> systemwide
[04:49] <kloptops> hrmmmm, my xorg was working... i restarted gdm yesterday. it worked fine, i rebooted today, and first my grub breaks, then my xserver carps itself. :\
[04:49] <marcagio> now that mister Sparrow is out for a coffee... can anyone help me with the video acceleration slowness??? I have 1978 frames in 5.1 seconds = 385.496 FPS.... verry slow when playing games... I just pasted my Xorg to the pastebin
[04:50] <mathieu> indeed i don't play games under 500fps!
[04:50] <abhi_> angelic2: my cron is not working . ( cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid )
[04:50] <ootput> marcagio: what's the link
[04:50] <marcagio> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23439
[04:51] <lontra> i installed flashplugin-nonfree but firefox is telling me that it's still not installed
[04:51] <wtroche> lontra, I used the install from Adobe's web site to get mine working
[04:51] <Frogzoo> manaPirat: LD_LIBRARY_PATH   or create /etc/ld.so.conf & ldconfig
[04:51] <DexterF> !vmware
[04:51] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:51] <peacefulmunda87> rasputnik: u there?
[04:52] <ootput> marcagio: i'm not familiar with ati cards at all, sorry. is 'ati' the correct name for the accelerated drivers? Also, does ATi require "dri" and "glx" to be loaded?
[04:52] <marcagio> lol I have no clue :(
[04:52] <manaPirat> hm i am not familiar with the ld.so.conf format ;)
[04:52] <marcagio> I used to be a windows user until last week
[04:52] <ootput> marcagio: which guides have you consulted?
[04:52] <manaPirat> i will to an  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/pathblabla
[04:52] <manaPirat> in bash.bashrc is that ok?
[04:52] <marcagio> I just installed the drivers from the ATI website
[04:52] <kloptops> doesnt ati use flg<blah>?
[04:53] <abhi_> can anyone tell me why lots of debian people are moving towards ubuntu?
[04:53] <marcagio> and the synaptics that I read about on the ubuntu website
[04:53] <ootput> abhi_: less time spent tinkering with config files to get a nice desktop system?
[04:53] <elmargol> Hi i try to install cedega on ubuntu edgy. cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0); however: Package xlibs is not installed.
[04:54] <elmargol> Is there a workaround for this? apt-get install xlibs does not help
[04:54] <ootput> abhi_: I still use many etch boxes, but I recently installed kubuntu on my laptop, and I'm loving it
[04:54] <FliesLikeALap> abhi_ people (like myself) who use debian on servers are now starting to think about using ubuntu since it has newer packages
[04:54] <ootput> marcagio: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg19t6.htm  <-- looks pretty simple to me
[04:55] <abhi_> ootput: but ubuntu take more time to install extra softs from its reps.
[04:55] <ootput> marcagio: it appears "fglrx" is the driver you need
[04:55] <FliesLikeALap> abhi_ more time than what?
[04:55] <MrXY> does any one have problem when switch keyboard layouts on ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[04:55] <abhi_> debian
[04:55] <FliesLikeALap> abhi_  ubuntu uses the same exact packagin system as debian.
[04:55] <kendals> How do I get 6.06 to use my ALSA (intel) onboard sound card for output/playback, and my Logitech USB microphone (AK5370) for recording (or namely, to use in Skype/MSN/Anything!)?
[04:55] <abhi_> i mean downloading
[04:55] <kloptops> ootput: i'm having problems with my nvidia kernel module not loading, i've got my xorg config up on paste would you be able to have a look?
[04:55] <FliesLikeALap> abhi_ that isn't true.  if it is, then the person should just be using faster mirrors
[04:56] <abhi_> ooooh...
[04:56] <ootput> kloptops: yeah, going out for a fag. I'll check it out when i get back (direct the link this way) (=
[04:56] <kloptops> by direct you mean private msg? or?
[04:57] <reinier> yooo
[04:57] <ootput> kloptops: oot<tab> _link_
[04:57] <ootput> kloptops: that way it'll be hilighted, and I won't have to go through lines and lines of chat messages
[04:57] <trevXOR> Hi guys, I'm having a problem with my internet connection that apparently has something to do with ubuntu. I get half as much speed as windows on breezy, and the difference is very noticable. =( Any pointers?
[04:58] <kloptops> ootput: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23440 (it was a tossup between that and private message, thought i'd ask to be clear ;)
[04:58] <MattJ> I'm not sure, but I think I have a similar problem
[04:58] <MattJ> Seems to be only with DNS lookups
[04:58] <MattJ> So I was going to install a local dns cache
[04:58] <iqon> i'm using the also mixer and when i move the volume slider down for the master the volume increases, when i turn the master up the volume decreases
[04:58] <iqon> anyeone have any idea that would be happening?
[04:59] <FliesLikeALap> iqon if you just installed ubuntu, make sure to install all of the latest updates
[04:59] <FliesLikeALap> that problem was fixed 2-3 months ago in an update
[04:59] <M_A_K> how do I replicate the desktop configuration (menus etc) from one user to future users that have not yet been created?  I know that the files in /etc/skel will be copied to all new users, but what files do I copy so the menus are identical.
[04:59] <iqon> i am up to date
[05:00] <iqon> Flannel, do you know what package it was, i'll reinstall it
[05:00] <FliesLikeALap> no iqon I don't
[05:00] <Dink> MattJ, you around ?
[05:00] <iqon> ok, i gotta work on this autocomplete name thing
[05:00] <Dink> lol guess not
[05:00] <rasputnik> M_A_K: I'd make a sample user, log in as them, tweak the menus, log out. then rsync ~/sample-user/ to /etc/skel/
[05:01] <M_A_K> The entire dir?
[05:01] <Elij> could you check if the process is running (ps -A | grep vino-server)1~
[05:01] <Elij> could you check if the process is running (ps -A | grep vino-server)1~
[05:01] <trevXOR> MattJ: thanks! It indeed sounds like a DNS problem, and I have found a thread on this issue elsewhere.
[05:01] <rasputnik> M_A_K: why not? you could just do .gnome/ , but this lets you do any other apps. works for kde etc too.
[05:02] <Elij> could you check if the process is running (ps -A | grep vino-seH
[05:02] <M_A_K> K, thanks.  Can I do  this for already created users or will that break things?
[05:03] <rasputnik> M_A_K: it won't break things, but obviously they won't pull from /etc/skel
[05:03] <M_A_K> I understand, but since the accounts were just created last week, can I just copy this stuff into their home dirs?
[05:04] <rasputnik> M_A_K: I'd be wary of overwriting their existing files, so backup first (of course). don't forget to chown -R the directory to them too
[05:04] <billybennett> is it common when you download source files if there is a file that tells you all the dependencies for you?  I just tried ./configure and I'm getting an "error: no acceptable c compiler found in $path"
[05:05] <daxxar> Any way to tell my Ubuntu laptop that I have two 'primary' wireless networks? One uses WPA and one is open, and I want my laptop to connect to the one that a) is available, or if both are available b) the one with the best signal.
[05:05] <Frogzoo> billybennett: ./configure ; make ; make install               bog standard
[05:05] <billybennett> Frogzoo, I was having a problem with ./configure though
[05:05] <rasputnik> billybennett: usually the readme will tell you what you need. but a compiler is usually needed, yes :)
[05:06] <sque> Hi! Which package contains the man pages of C++ and C library? e.g. I want to do: man memcpy
[05:06] <billybennett> rasputnik, do certain sources need specific compilers? and which one should I get?
[05:06] <Orasis1> Frogzoo:  ;) ./configure ; make ; sudo make install ;)
[05:06] <rasputnik> billybennett: apt-get install build-essential. but you'll also need the -dev packages for libraries you're linking against
[05:06] <Frogzoo> billybennett: read the README or INSTALL
[05:06] <jacopoexchange> does anyone know one of those programs that allow to burn repository cd? like downloading the packages and putting them in removable drives?
[05:06] <billybennett> rasputnik, thanks!
[05:06] <Orasis1> billybennett: Remember to sudo when you do the "make install"
[05:07] <reptyle> sque, manpages-dev
[05:07] <kaolti> i have a problem with ubuntu
[05:07] <sque> reptyle, ty!
[05:07] <billybennett> rasputnik, the dev packages of build-essential or... what
[05:07] <kaolti> i have integrated video chipset
[05:07] <kaolti> and
[05:08] <kaolti> at the resolution it says 1024x768 76Hz
[05:08] <tokenbad> using tar is there a way to tar a file to a specified dir?
[05:08] <kaolti> but my eyes hurt
[05:08] <kaolti> and its 100% not 76Hz
[05:08] <kryptoz> all set with Ubuntu in my laptop :d
[05:08] <rasputnik> billybennett: say the package you are building uses openssl. there are 'header files' that tell the compiler how to call the functions in the openssl library, and they would be in the libssl-dev ubuntu package
[05:08] <led_floyd> hi all
[05:08] <kloptops> tar -C <the-directory> :)
[05:08] <Yasuo> how do i install mplayer i386 on amd64 system?
[05:08] <kaolti> can anybody help?
[05:09] <rasputnik> tokenbad: tar cvfz /path/to/tarfile.tgz whatever
[05:09] <kryptoz> kaolti: what resolution u are looking for ?
[05:09] <kaolti> plsssssss
[05:09] <mo-Z> anyone uses fluxbuntu here?
[05:09] <kaolti> 1024x768 is ok
[05:09] <kaolti> i want higher refresh
[05:09] <Yasuo> kaolti, edit xorg.conf or XF86config-4 and change the frequenzy
[05:09] <kryptoz> what machine is this ?
[05:09] <kaolti> it says 76Hz
[05:09] <kaolti> but its not
[05:10] <kryptoz> i just installed ubuntu and eventhough i set 1280*800 it was ginving a lower res. The solution is installed "915resolution"
[05:10] <kaolti> theres nothin in xorg.conf about the refresh rate
[05:10] <kryptoz> if you have a intel integrated display
[05:10] <kaolti> i dont have intel
[05:10] <kaolti> i have via p4m800
[05:10] <kryptoz> try install 915resolution
[05:10] <kaolti> no driver for it
[05:10] <kaolti> how do i get it
[05:10] <kryptoz> synaptic
[05:11] <tokenbad> rasputnik, I have the file in one dir...and I am running the command in that dir...but what I want is to untar the file to a dir on another drive...so for example I would do tar Cvfz tar file /path/want/untar?
[05:11] <kryptoz> sudo synaptic
[05:11] <kaolti> ok thanks
[05:11] <Yasuo> kaolti, ins the the monitor section
[05:11] <rasputnik> tokenbad: I'd cd /path/want/untar; tar xvfz /full/path/to/tarfile.tgz
[05:12] <kloptops> tokenbad: its tar Cvfz tar /path/want/untar file-to-untar
[05:12] <kaolti> isnt 915res only for intel chipsets?
[05:12] <tokenbad> thanks kloptops
[05:12] <kloptops> er, minus the tar in the middle there :/
[05:12] <rasputnik> ah, didn't know the '-C' flag. thanks
[05:13] <kaolti> ?
[05:13] <coren_ita> hi everybody. may I ask help about rsync?
[05:13] <jacopoexchange> help please, i need to install some packages to a computer not connected to the internet
[05:13] <kloptops> rasputnik: no worries, i found it a few months back when i was writing a simple backup script for my webserver
[05:13] <kaolti> kryptoz: isnt 915res only for intel chipsets?
[05:13] <Rico> coren_ita: just ask 
[05:14] <coren_ita> ok
[05:14] <kendals> How do I get 6.06 to use my ALSA (intel) onboard sound card for output/playback, and my Logitech USB microphone (AK5370) for recording (or namely, to use in Skype/MSN/Anything!)?
[05:14] <rasputnik> kloptops: I'ved given myself 20 minutes a day to RTFM the tools I use. vim is incredible if you actually have a clue to use it (which i now do) :)
[05:14] <Yasuo> anyone has amd64 installed? how you do you get mplayer +wmv working?
[05:14] <Rico> Yasou: with difficulty
[05:15] <kloptops> yeah, i got sick of pico/nano and learnt vim, its definately worth learning if you ssh alot.
[05:15] <coren_ita> here's the problem: I need to sync a directory on a server A in a directory of a server B, but in B I have some files I need to keep there.
[05:15] <kaolti> Yasou: 915 res is only for intel chipsets?
[05:15] <coren_ita> I tried with the .--exclude option, but it doesn't seems to work
[05:15] <coren_ita> because the directories I need to keep aren't on the source server
[05:15] <rasputnik> kloptops: mainly I like the cut n paste. If you sysadmin, most of your days involved 'get those 12 lines, copy them, then s/oldstring/newstring/ on that block.
[05:15] <billybennett> rasputnik, that did the trick but now I'm getting "configure: error: can't find X includes. please cehck your installation and add correct paths"
[05:16] <coren_ita> so.. I was wondering if there is the possibility to prevent some dirs and files to be deleted by rsync on the destination
[05:16] <rasputnik> billybennett: so, you now need to find the header (aka include) files for your X server.
[05:16] <Yasuo> where to get libdvdcss(2)?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[05:16] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:16] <rasputnik> coren_ita: look at the --excludes option
[05:16] <Yasuo> !dvd
[05:16] <kloptops> rasputnik: its alot faster once you get used of it :)
[05:17] <Yasuo> thx ill look
[05:17] <Rico> i find vi to be a chore but it's the only editor you're guaranteed to have available
[05:17] <Mnabil> how can i control wget so as i can , download the file in  a certain directory
[05:17] <Rico> Mnabil: use wget -O filename
[05:17] <rasputnik> billybennett: 'apt cache search x11 dev' will give you some likely candidates.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> I find vi to be a walk in the park. :P   but i spent the time to learn vi
[05:18] <kaolti> i have a problem with my refresh rate can anybody help pls?
[05:18] <Rico> Dr_Willis: i've learnt it, i use it, i just don't *like* it 
[05:18] <tokenbad> kloptops, I did the command you said...but gives me error
[05:18] <Yasuo> kaolti, still?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Rico,  Blasphmy!
[05:19] <Rico> :P
[05:19] <silverfox> can anyone explain to me, how to share a printer installed on ubuntu for a win client?
[05:19] <ompaul> !samba > silverfox
[05:19] <kaolti> Yasuo: yes still because 915resolution is only for intel chipsets
[05:19] <kloptops> its: tar Cvxzf <path-to-extract-to> <file-you-want-extract>
[05:19] <joaquinz> hi
[05:19] <DethKlok> I know this sounds funny but is there a way to open multiple x sessions? so i can hit alt + ctrl +f9 to go to the other session.
[05:19] <ompaul> silverfox, please read the instructions the bot just sent you
[05:19] <Yasuo> kaolti, wich monitor do you have?
[05:19] <kaolti> Yasuo: cant i change the refresh rate on the vesa driver?
[05:19] <pooh_beawr> http://pastebin.ca/170344 <--- can anyone make sense of this?
[05:19] <joaquinz> does anybody know why ati fglrx acceleration doesnt work ONLY when i use Xgl?
[05:20] <kendals> Why doesn't Ubuntu like having 2 sound 'devices' (i.e. onboard sound, then another device being the microphone through usb)?
[05:20] <fuci> When I play WC3 with Cedega, how can I jump back to ubuntu without closing Warcraft? Alt+Tab doesn't seem to work.
[05:20] <silverfox> ok i'll take a look
[05:20] <Yasuo> kaolti, vesa sux,
[05:20] <kaolti> Yasuo: i know but i dont have driver for my chipset
[05:20] <joaquinz> it shows to me an error mesage like Xlib:DRI extension missing
[05:20] <DethKlok> fuci: can probably use -w or something for window mode
[05:20] <billybennett> rasputnik, x11pronto-core-dev ?
[05:20] <Rico> pooh_beawr: i don't think it's worth examining heavily, given the application
[05:20] <DethKlok> fuci: go to blizzard.com and search for wc3 window mode
[05:21] <joaquinz> or something like that... is an unfixed bug? do i have to wait until ubuntu guys solve it?
[05:21] <Dace> pooh_beawr: #winehq
[05:21] <rasputnik> billybennett: depends which bit you want. libx11-dev sounds likely
[05:21] <DethKlok> fuci: then all u need to do is edit the entry in cedega
[05:21] <kaolti> fuci: you just have to run the game with the -window switch
[05:21] <pooh_beawr> Rico, Dace, I want a good bot... are there any for Linux?
[05:21] <Yasuo> kaolti, well, backup your config, then get your monitor sync rates by google or the manual or something, then enter themin the config
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> or check the cedega forums.
[05:21] <fuci> DethKlok: I'm using windowed mode from Cedega, but it doesn't allow my cursor to exit the screen (and that's the way I want it to be) and alt+tab doesn't work either.
[05:21] <billybennett> rasputnik, I see.... I was looking for the wrong thing :P
[05:21] <Rico> pooh_beawr: run a php/perl bot
[05:22] <billybennett> rasputnik, but that pronto package was part of it :P
[05:22] <rasputnik> billybennett: quite possibly not. I've done that before and you end up throwing everything :/
[05:22] <DethKlok> fuci: cant always win i guess
[05:22] <kaolti> Yasuo: is there a chance that i fuck up my monitor
[05:22] <Dace> pooh_beawr: what kind of bot exactly?
[05:22] <fuci> DethKlok: :(
[05:22] <Yasuo> kaolti, in my config is looks like:     HorizSync    30-98
[05:22] <Yasuo>   VertRefresh  50-160
[05:22] <rasputnik> woo almost time for yoga
[05:22] <Yasuo> kaolti, YES IT IS
[05:22] <DethKlok> fuci: probably search through the cedega forums im sure thats not just a ubuntu issue
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> fuci,  thers some key conbo that releases the cursor i think
[05:23] <Yasuo> kaolti, so get the correct values from your manual or google or etc.
[05:23] <billybennett> rasputnik, I dont think that was it :(
[05:23] <kaolti> Yasuo: last i checked there is nothing related to refresh rates in the config
[05:23] <Yasuo> most monitors will just show a blank screen or something but dont count on it
[05:23] <pooh_beawr> Rico, Dace... I like bots that learn from you just talking to it. (and hopefully can be taught from the NET.
[05:23] <rasputnik> billybennett: well, keep trying - can't be more than a few hundred of them....
[05:23] <Yasuo> kaolti, wich config file?
[05:23] <Yasuo> look for Section "Monitor"
[05:23] <kaolti> Yasuo: xorg.conf
[05:24] <led_floyd> hi all.....there is someone that can help me?
[05:24] <led_floyd> i'm finished to configure openldap, but when i run slapcat i've a strange screen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23442
[05:24] <rasputnik> billybennett: try 'xorg-dev'
[05:24] <kaolti> Yasuo: the fact its not my monitor i just thought i can do something about the refresh without causing any harm
[05:24] <silverfox> ompaul,  i should use samba, to have a windows installed printer working on ubuntu right? but i need a ubuntu printer working in windows
[05:24] <Mnabil> how can i control wget so as i can , download the file in  a certain directory
[05:24] <led_floyd> why my dc is =nodomain??
[05:24] <kaolti> Yasuo: cause my monitor broke down on me a few days ago :|
[05:25] <pooh_beawr> Ok, well thanks, unless anyone else knows about Linux bots.
[05:25] <rasputnik> led_floyd: that's not an error.  that's a dump of your ldap directory
[05:25] <rasputnik> led_floyd: did you Specify a base dn?
[05:25] <ompaul> silverfox, you can server samba from windows or ubuntu - the ubuntu-client works to find it on windows, and the samba server serves it to clients of windows so you can work both ways
[05:26] <jrib> Mnabil: rico told you before, wget -O filename
[05:26] <led_floyd> yes...i've specified
[05:26] <kaolti> Yasuo: i just dont see why in the screen resolution screen it says 76Hz when its not?!
[05:26] <silverfox> there's no easier way of that, using cupsd ?
[05:26] <Yasuo> kaolti, then leave it as it is if you dont know wich modes your monitor supports
[05:26] <rasputnik> led_floyd: well, it didn't hear you :) just edit the dump, then feed it back into slapadd.
[05:27] <Mnabil> jrib, ok
[05:27] <led_floyd> rsputnik: sorry....i don't now the dump........what is?
[05:27] <jrib> Mnabil: looking at the man page, -O or -P seem to be what you want
[05:27] <kaolti> Yasuo: i'll try to install the unsported driver of my chipset
[05:27] <Yasuo> kaolti, wich chipset is it?
[05:27] <silverfox> ompaul,  there's no easier way of that, using cupsd ?
[05:28] <ompaul> silverfox, not when using windows as far as I know
[05:28] <kaolti> Yasuo: via p4m800
[05:28] <ompaul> silverfox, the wiki page you were pointed to is rather verbose and the process simple
[05:28] <rasputnik> opexoc: doesn't windows do ipp these days? or is that just osx.
[05:28] <ruckerz> is there a changelog for updates from security.ubuntu.com?
[05:28] <led_floyd> rasputnik: how i cant edit the dump?
[05:29] <kendals> How do I get 6.06 to use my ALSA (intel) onboard sound card for output/playback, and my Logitech USB microphone (AK5370) for recording (or namely, to use in Skype/MSN/Anything!)?
[05:29] <fuci> Ok, I googled it up, http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Tips_and_Tricks thanks for the help <3 luv ya ^___^
[05:29] <kloptops> ugh, i dont know how people can stand having only one monitor... :/ i think im getting claustraphobia :X
[05:29] <rasputnik> led_floyd: slapcat > dumpfile.txt , then edit dumpfile.txt
[05:29] <Rico> kloptops: tell me about it. i'm only using one at work, two at home.
[05:29] <led_floyd> rasputnik: thanks.....now i try :-)
[05:29] <rasputnik> kloptops: just press your nose against it
[05:30] <BORAT> im having problems connecting to my school server, when i connect, a filebrowser opens up in firefox, and i need to upload information
[05:30] <kaolti> Yasuo: there is only some "openchrome" project goin on with drivers for ubuntu and other linux distros
[05:30] <fyrestrtr> BORAT: seems like you are connecting to it fine.
[05:30] <rasputnik> wee! hometime. cheers all.
[05:30] <BORAT> im having problems connecting to my school server, when i connect, a filebrowser opens up in firefox, and i need to upload information, does anyone know how to solve this?
[05:30] <BORAT> i want it to open up like a folder.
[05:31] <kloptops> Rico: same, but today it decided to not load the nvidia kernel module, so i'm patiently waiting to find out how to fix it. :)
[05:31] <Subhuman> BORAT, use nautilus then
[05:31] <Rico> kloptops: i remember the first couple of linux distros i used utterly failed to support my card, so they installed fine (And the livecds had a full gui) but then once i started i up - bang, x failed to start
[05:31] <admin12354> does anyone know how to suggest software to add to the ubuntu software repository?
[05:32] <fyrestrtr> !motu
[05:32] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:32] <Rico> kloptops: there's always that risk, i suppose.
[05:32] <kendals> How do I get 6.06 to use my ALSA (intel) onboard sound card for output/playback, and my Logitech USB microphone (AK5370) for recording (or namely, to use in Skype/MSN/Anything!)?
[05:32] <admin12354> thanks
[05:33] <led_floyd> rasputnik: ehm....i can't find slapcat directory......
[05:33] <kloptops> Rico: yeah, had to reboot, and first grub monkeys itself, then xserver fails... just waiting for the third thing to happen... :X
[05:33] <BORAT> anybody???
[05:33] <kaolti> Yasuo: how can i change my refresh rate from 76 to 75
[05:34] <kaolti> Yasuo: i heard that its wavy at 76/86 and such
[05:34] <Yasuo> kaolti, why would you want to do that? well iirc there was a gnome tool wich can change the resolution
[05:35] <led_floyd> rasputnik....are you here?
[05:35] <Yasuo> resapplet - A small applet to change your screen resolution
[05:35] <kaolti> Yasuo: because its 76 and i think it wouldnt be wavy at 75.i cant change the refresh with the gnome tool.theres only 1 option there:76Hz
[05:37] <ilkerkesen> iyi sohbetler
[05:37] <tuxedup> what is the name of the new gnoem menu that is available?  The one similar to the one featured in the latest SLED?
[05:37] <Rico> technel: erm, do you mean Alacarte?
[05:38] <BORAT> Subhuman: how do i open it up in nautalis?
[05:38] <Rico> borat: Places -> connect to server
[05:39] <agliv5> My windows box can no longer see my samba dirrectories... can anybody help?
[05:39] <runa> hey. I need a 2.6.17 kernel in dapper drake. I couldn't find a backport so, I downloaded the source from kernel.org, copied the config from /boot, ran make oldconfig dep clean bzImage modules_modules install. booted but it didn't worked (I have the initrd image missing). How can I do to create it?
[05:39] <BORAT> Rico: i did that, and it shows up as a little icon on my desktop. when i click on it, it opens up in firefodx
[05:39] <BORAT> rico: i want it to open up in nautalis.
[05:40] <kaolti> u know what
[05:40] <kaolti> i'll get back to ubuntu when i have a good video card +LCD monitor :|
[05:40] <Rico> borat: are you connecting to FTP?
[05:40] <BORAT> Rico: no its a school server.
[05:41] <Rico> yes, but how are you connecting?
[05:41] <BORAT> Rico: HTTPS
[05:41] <Rico> ...
[05:41] <BORAT> Rico: using the connect to server
[05:41] <Rico> how does that even work
[05:41] <BORAT> should i use FTP?
[05:41] <kloptops> o_O
[05:41] <Rico> ok, try this
[05:41] <Rico> open a nautilus window
[05:41] <BORAT> k
[05:41] <Rico> press Ctrl+L
[05:41] <Rico> type in the https: url of your school
[05:42] <kloptops> isnt nautilus' http core based on geko anyhow?
[05:42] <BORAT> it says, please select another viewer.
[05:43] <kloptops> or am i thinking of something else ;/ i think i need some more coffee
[05:43] <Rico> BORAT: I guess something needs to be downloaded; i have no idea. sorry.
[05:43] <Rico> AHA
[05:43] <Rico> try davs://
[05:44] <Rico> instead of https://
[05:44] <BORAT> k
[05:44] <BORAT> Rico: same errorr
[05:44] <Rico> ok now i'm out of ideas.
[05:45] <BORAT> thanks for the help anyways.
[05:45] <kloptops> Rico:  you any good at figuring out why nvidia kernel modules dont load?
[05:45] <Rico> kloptops: absolutely not.
[05:46] <kloptops> shibby, im stumped :/
[05:46] <mo-Z> how to take screenshots in fluxbuntu?
[05:46] <Rico> so nothing changed? it just stopped loading? do you think it's related to the grub error?
[05:47] <joaquinz> does anybody know why gdm doest finish to start when i use xgl with it?
[05:47] <kloptops> i've been looking about, my xorg.conf hasnt changed in any of my backups for like 2weeks,
[05:48] <ucordes> joaquinz: try and ask at #ubuntu-xgl
[05:48] <ucordes> but bring patience...
[05:48] <ellison> hi
[05:48] <Rico> kloptops: i suppose you could still try the dpkg-reconfigure line to restore your xorg.conf
[05:48] <mo-Z> how to take screenshots in fluxbuntu?
[05:48] <Yasuo> hwo do i install mplayer 32bit?
[05:48] <BORAT> rico: do you want to try it?
[05:48] <Rico> BORAT: sure
[05:48] <BORAT> Rico:  will give you the server n
[05:48] <ucordes> BORAT: is the movie out yet? :-)
[05:48] <Yasuo> hwo do i install mplayer 32bit on an amd64-system? can i tell apt-get etc.?
[05:48] <BORAT> Rico: nope
[05:48] <BORAT> Rico: October...
[05:49] <Rico> :/
[05:49] <ucordes> i need to see it
[05:49] <BORAT> Rico: https://lhfs01.svusd.org/students/yassamis025/
[05:49] <ucordes> jageshemaaash
[05:49] <BORAT> thats the server
[05:49] <kloptops> well i got a nvidia setup and a nv setup, and i just use a simple shell script to alternate them, it hasnt been edited in 2weeks X|
[05:49] <BORAT> the passsword is 115366
[05:49] <BORAT> NOBODY FOOK WITH IT.
[05:50] <Rico> ...
[05:50] <kloptops> lol :X
[05:50] <ucordes> i have the flashdsic of my cell phone connected with usb cable. ubuntu directly mounts it when i plug in but i have no writing permissions. how can i change tthis?
[05:51] <BORAT> Rico: have you tried?
[05:51] <Rico> BORAT: yes, it asked me to log in
[05:51] <Rico> but wouldn't accept my password
[05:51] <Rico> erm, your password
[05:51] <BORAT> the username is yassamis025
[05:51] <BORAT> the pass is 115366
[05:51] <Rico> i guessed that
[05:52] <Rico> no, it doesn't like that password.
[05:52] <Rico> but it does connect
[05:52] <BORAT> ?
[05:52] <ucordes> anybody can help me?
[05:52] <Rico> BORAT: i can connect to https (in firefox) with those details
[05:52] <billybennett> If I was to setup an FTP server on my machine so I can access files and what not, whats the best route I should go?
[05:52] <Rico> BORAT: but when i use davs:// in nautilus, it doesn't accept the password
[05:52] <BORAT> Rico: Yea, but i need to put files in that folder...
[05:53] <BORAT> Rico: like schoolwork
[05:53] <Rico> BORAT: maybe there's a better webdav client you can use.
[05:53] <BORAT> ill ask on the forums.
[05:53] <Rico> BORAT: apt-get install cadaver (command line client), or nd
[05:54] <kloptops> hrmmm, i've never played around with webdav @_@ i cant help there...
[05:54] <agliv5> Greetings :)  Samba is running but nmbd won't start... what's up with that?
[05:55] <Rico> kloptops: prior to a few minutes ago i didn't know what webdav *was*
[05:55] <ucordes> ...anybody?
[05:56] <kloptops> Rico: i've read a few articles on it, but never really had the urge to try it. havent had a need.
[05:56] <barongas> I've mounted a vfat (fat32 lba) drive but I can't manage to mount it as -rw, any ideas what could've gone wrong?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> you need to use the rught umask options barongas  that url discussis it
[05:57] <Rico> kloptops: it's fairly attractive as a stateless/sessionless alternative to ftp.
[05:57] <barongas> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll check it out
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  that url is worth bookmarking as well. :P
[05:58] <kloptops> Rico: yeah, but i ssh/scp/svn everything i use, so there really hasnt ever been a need for it.
[05:58] <Rico> ditto.
[05:59] <barongas> Dr_Willis: Any idea on how i use umask in fstab?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> umask=0222 just like the examples on that url show. :P)
[05:59] <DethKlok> Is there a debian package for Free *nx
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  0222 is most likely the umask you want to use.. depends on your needs.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> !info freenx
[06:00] <ubotu> freenx: The FreeNX application/thin-client server based on NX technology. In component freenx, is optional. Version 0.4.4+0.4.5-4ubuntu3 (dapper-seveas), package size 54 kB, installed size 256 kB
[06:00] <barongas> Dr_Willis: Yeah seems like it, but I can't use the umask command in /etc/fstab can I?
[06:01] <DethKlok> !info nano
[06:01] <ubotu> nano: free Pico clone with some new features. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.10-1 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[06:01] <DethKlok> knowing the commands is half the battle
[06:01] <barongas> Dr_Willis:  Seems I can, nice :)
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  you re confusing the umask COMMAND with the fstab umask OPTION
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  the umask command has nothing to do with your problem.  (well a little)  its what the option is doing whatn the filesystem is mounted.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  when mounting a ntfs/vfat - the umask and other options define what default permissions/ownership the vfat/ntfs partitions/files get.
[06:03] <ucordes> anybody?!
[06:04] <barongas> Dr_Willis: Ok, one question though... if I can't even create files as root, doesn't that mean that it's not permissions that are wrong but the actual ro/rw?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  possibaly. use the mount command to see how the partition is mounted
[06:06] <||arifaX> i am currently doing a   sudo apt-get install kde  under gnome. I want to be able to select gnome or kde at logon. am I thinking the right way?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  the defaults for fstab have always let me write to vfat in the past.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> ||arifaX,  install kubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> ||arifaX,  this is covered on the Kubuntu homepage/faq :P
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> and Yes GDM has a session menu that lets you pick what to boot to
[06:06] <||arifaX> Dr_Willis
[06:06] <||arifaX> thanks
[06:06] <fresch> how can i split a binary file into multiple parts? and later join these parts even on windows?
[06:07] <webben> Does anyone here use a Canon Pixma with Ubuntu?
[06:07] <webben> and if so, how have they found that experience?
[06:07] <idefix_> why isn't there a motion detec in Camorama?
[06:07] <idefix_> do you know the linux camorama program?
[06:08] <barongas> Dr_Willis: I'll revert to the defaults and reboot
[06:08] <idefix_> but does that answer my question??
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  no need to reboot
[06:09] <idefix_> he cannot hear you
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> quick - lets all change nicks! :P
[06:09] <OofCZer0> Can someone link me to the guide on how to dual boot with XP and Ubuntu?
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> webben: Connaon are problems... sort of like winmodems...
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Canon
[06:10] <cwkx> Hey guys, does anyone here know how I can support video conference & as another different topic how I can support fingerprint recognition?
[06:10] <kloptops> hrmmmm, that went well... not :/
[06:10] <idefix_> just install ubuntu over XP and you're fine!
[06:10] <OofCZer0> :p
[06:10] <idefix_> or
[06:10] <idefix_> at least it worked over 98
[06:10] <webben> Jack_Sparrow, I know they can be problematic. OTOH it looks like they do the best all-in-ones for the home market, judging by the reviews at least. :(
[06:10] <xipietotec> !info 7zip
[06:10] <OofCZer0> idefix_: i need to see how the paritions are suppose to go
[06:10] <ubotu> Package 7zip does not exist in any distro I know
[06:10] <xipietotec> dammit.
[06:10] <OofCZer0> idefix_: i had a good guide on the ubuntu site i was using yesterday
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> webben: The reviews are for a Win-Printer on WIndows... look at HP
[06:11] <Leafw> anyone knows if the apt-get / dpkg system can identify libs that are "orphan", i.e. no programs depend on them and thus can be removed?
[06:11] <Seveas> !p7zip
[06:11] <ubotu> p7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.30.dfsg-1 (dapper), package size 1413 kB, installed size 3784 kB
[06:11] <Seveas> xipietotec, --^
[06:11] <xipietotec> thankya seveas =)
[06:11] <Seveas> Leafw, look in synaptic for 'locally installed or obsolete'
[06:11] <webben> Jack_Sparrow, well i was hoping somebody might have used TurboPrint
[06:11] <webben> Jack_Sparrow: the printer will mainly be used with a windows machine anyway
[06:12] <Seveas> Leafw, err, nevermind -- misunderstood you
[06:12] <Seveas> Leafw, you need debfoster
[06:12] <Leafw> Seveas : hum, I have adept (kubuntu here), but then both are GUIs to the same underlaying system arent; they?
[06:12] <webben> Jack_Sparrow, but it would be nice to be able to use it from Linux too
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> webben: You can probably get it to work... Not my choice,
[06:12] <Leafw> Seveas : ok, debfoster, I'll look it up
[06:12] <webben> Jack_Sparrow, okay. thanks :)
[06:13] <khermans> I want to keep my ubuntu-server kernel, but need a GUI -- what package should I install?
[06:13] <gbrent> what is the path for shell scripting in ubuntu? is it #!/usr/share/bin or #!/usr/bin
[06:13] <Seveas> khermans, ubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <Seveas> gbrent, the latter
[06:14] <Seveas> #!/usr/bin/bash
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> gbrent,  try 'which sh'
[06:14] <kloptops> Jack_Sparrow: i've still got that nvidia module loading error, i'm totally stumped as to why its not loading tho. :/
[06:14] <khermans> Seveas, won't that move me to a non-server based setup?
[06:14] <gbrent> seveas: thank you
[06:14] <tahorg> gbrent: user #!/bin/sh
[06:14] <Seveas> khermans, no
[06:14] <tahorg> -r
[06:14] <khermans> Seveas, ie -- the kernel will change too
[06:14] <khermans> Seveas, oh ok
[06:14] <Seveas> gbrent, actually, it's #!/bin/bash without /usr
[06:14] <tahorg> Seveas: /bin/sh is standard
[06:14] <khermans> Seveas, i just want to make sure i keep all the optimizations of ubuntu-server
[06:14] <tahorg> Seveas: he should use it
[06:14] <Seveas> tahorg, bollocks
[06:14] <xipietotec> how to i run an .sh file from bash again?
[06:15] <||arifaX> dr_will, kubuntu-desktop now asks me for display manager. I have to choose gdm to be able to switch right?
[06:15] <Seveas> there is no 'standard'
[06:15] <khermans> xinming, sh script.sh
[06:15] <gbrent> Seveas, thank you
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kloptops: I would start from the top and reinstall the nvidia drivers
[06:15] <khermans> xipietotec, xh script.sh
[06:15] <xipietotec> w00t, thankyou. =)
[06:16] <barongas> Ok, I've rebooted with defaults in fstab and it is rw but only root write, When I try mounting it with 0222 it still only let's root write :(
[06:16] <barongas> /dev/hda3 on /mnt/hd2 type vfat (rw) is what mount says
[06:17] <||arifaX> barongas what about the permissions for the folder /mnt/hd2?
[06:17] <barongas> I've been chmodding -R 777 like a madman
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  that will NOT work
[06:18] <kloptops> barongas: that wont work, vfat doesnt do permisions :)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> thats why you must use the umask and other options
[06:18] <joe_> Hi All
[06:18] <kenvey> hi I tried to mount my hdd: sudo mkdir /media/hda1 then with the command sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 but still it saying that   /dev/hda1 not mounted what do I wrong :s
[06:18] <barongas> Dr_Willis: When I tried mounting it with umask=0222 it still only let root write
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> barongas,  what was the mount command? this is a vfat partition? not a ntfs one?
[06:19] <kenvey> ntfs
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[06:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:19] <barongas> Dr_Willis: vfat
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:20] <kenvey> thx Dr_Willis :)
[06:20] <barongas> I did make it vfat through cfdisk, is that enough or should I makefs.vfat as well? I'm afraid I'll loose data..
[06:20] <xxxRonnyxxx> kann jmd von euch deutsch?
[06:20] <michi> ja
[06:20] <laimismilas> lietuviu yra??
[06:20] <barongas> mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hd2 -t vfat -o umask=0222
[06:20] <Leafw> Seveas : aptitute includes debfoster, but the terminal gui is rather tedious (lots of pkg to remove one by one!). Is there a nice gui where I can select a hundred pkgs for aptitude?
[06:21] <xxxRonnyxxx> kann jmd deutsch????
[06:21] <Seveas> Leafw, unfortunatily not, but it remembers what you chose
[06:21] <Seveas> !de
[06:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:21] <michi> ja hier kann jemand deutsch
[06:21] <Subhuman> !de
[06:21] <Subhuman> beat to it :(
[06:21] <roh_> Im having a problem getting a game to run under ubuntu. Anyone know the game vendeta?
[06:21] <khermans> roh_, cedega?
[06:21] <roh_> khermans, linux native
[06:22] <joe_> I have a question about recompiling the kernel for dapper drake on my Acer Laptop BTW people...Just wondering if there is an easy way to do it
[06:22] <xxxRonnyxxx> can someone tell me how to install java on ubuntu
[06:22] <mypapit> xxxRonnyxxx: you need to enable multiverse repo
[06:22] <jrib> !java > xxxRonnyxxx
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel > joe_
[06:23] <roh_> khermans, Its got an updater that runs fine but when I hit play... nothing. A lot of programs are doing that to me randomly. They start to load then just get killed off
[06:23] <xxxRonnyxxx> im a beginner
[06:23] <Subhuman> !repos
[06:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:23] <jrib> xxxRonnyxxx: ubotu should have sent you a private message with all the directions
[06:23] <Subhuman> !multiverse
[06:23] <Leafw> this is nuts Seveas : I can't believe there is no way to identify obsolete or orphan lib packages
[06:23] <Leafw> in a easy way that is
[06:23] <bbrazil> Leafw: deborphan
[06:23] <Phaqui> What must I do to be able to use my mouse4(or5) button to go back when browsing with firefox?
[06:23] <joe_> Cheers - Obviously I don't HAVE to compile a kernel, but was thinking I'd like to get a bit more speed outta Ubuntu, as I'm not using it for anything much more than a bit of web browsing
[06:23] <xipietotec> gltron: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory how do I fix this?
[06:23] <Subhuman> Leafw, you can with deborfan
[06:24] <xxxRonnyxxx> oh i see thanks ill try again
[06:24] <Subhuman> joe_, unless youve done it before and are comfortable with it, the time it takes messing around to learn/do it wont justify the performance boost
[06:24] <jrib> !mouse > Phaqui
[06:24] <Leafw> bbrazil : thanks!
[06:24] <roh_> -_- losin faith in ubuntu real fast.
[06:24] <Subhuman> if you got the k7/i686 kernel image that is prob suffcient.
[06:24] <Leafw> thanks Subhuman  as well!
[06:24] <Phaqui> !mouse
[06:24] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:25] <Phaqui> thanks
[06:25] <xipietotec> !info libstdc++
[06:25] <ubotu> Package libstdc does not exist in any distro I know
[06:26] <joe_> Really? I was always told it was part of the idea of linux =]  Wouldn't bother on my desktop, but laptop doesn't have a lot inside it
[06:26] <joe_> although fair cop if I'm wrong, worth a short investigation though :D
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> joe_,  there are several different kernels you can install with the package manager.. dependong on your hardware
[06:27] <Leafw> Subhuman , bbrazil : deborphan then is to be used with pipes, like deborhpan | sudo apt-get remove - ?
[06:27] <joe_> oh cool that sounds like a more sensible idea!
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> joe_: Building your own to try and squeek out a little speed will probably not show much improvement
[06:28] <CosmoDad> hi, is it possible to install flash player 8 somehow?
[06:28] <Subhuman> Leafw, yeah you could do if you want
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> joe_: You can also have more than one available.. I have 386 and 686 in my grub
[06:28] <Subhuman> CosmoDad, yes under wine
[06:28] <kloptops> hrmmmm, this is driving me spare :/
[06:28] <Leafw> Subhuman: ok.
[06:28] <CosmoDad> Subhuman: no native support yet?
[06:29] <Subhuman> CosmoDad, nah their skipping 8 and releasing flash 9 simultaneiously under win/lin i think
[06:29] <Subhuman> fingers crossed.
[06:29] <renebuntu> Hey there. I am quite new to Ubuntu and Linux and was wondering if there is something like a clone of Apple's dock. The reason is, I have to get something stylish to convince my wife that Ubuntu is great. :-)
[06:29] <joe_> How easy is it to list them in Grub?
[06:29] <CosmoDad> Subhuman: awww man. ok, thanks for the info
[06:29] <joe_> Automatic or requires the command file editing
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> joe_: Just add them and they show up
[06:29] <barongas> If I by accident wrote mkfs.vfat and targeted a drive which already had files on it which I wanted to keep... Would there be any possibilit to recover them?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> renebuntu,  theres dozens of eyecandy things like that.. :P check out 'gdesklets' and the diffrent desklets you can install
[06:29] <[GuS] > Hi preople! some could point me a link to see how to make binary - dev and docs package from source?
[06:30] <Tjoels> hey, i just updated the freshly available kernel stuff images something (i don't know exactly what it was), and then when i restarted, X wouldn't start. It said something about 'unable to load nvidia' so i changed the graphics driver in xorg.conf from 'nvidia' back to 'nv'. Now it works, but i am using the default driver. What can be the problem?
[06:30] <lophyte> renebuntu: check out gDesklets, there's a dock-esque applet in there... you might also want to check out cairo-dock, google it :)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> I hate the OS-X dock
[06:30] <kloptops> renebuntu: you should checkout compiz/xgl, ubuntu.compiz.net is a good place to read up about it.
[06:30] <xipietotec> I'm having trouble getting gltron to work, can anyone help me?
[06:31] <kloptops> Dr_Willis: ditto, but i have a perverse fascination with kiba-dock :X
[06:31] <kloptops> something about bashing the icons about apeals to me...
[06:31] <renebuntu> kloptops: I am afraid that my 1 GHz notebook is not able to run XGL
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> kloptops,  gotta love a huge complex task.. that does what a simple menu could do. :P
[06:31] <Jimmey> !RestrictedFormats
[06:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:32] <Jimmey> !amarok
[06:32] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[06:32] <kloptops> i dont actually have the icons do anything, its more a novelty, kinda like the os-x dock really :)
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Here are some great icons for gnome...  http://kearone.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=9
[06:33] <Leafw> for the record, there is a nice bash script for deborphan to eliminate orhpan packages at http://debaday.livejournal.com/18154.html
[06:33] <Leafw> at the very bottom.
[06:33] <joe_> Where are these kernels in SPM then?
[06:33] <Pool_`> don't know
[06:34] <Leafw> it found about 100 packages ..
[06:34] <Leafw> no wonder my "base" kubuntu was 2.5 GB
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Leafw: I suggest a backup before deleting 100 packages...
[06:34] <kloptops> i dont even have x started atm, i cbf switching configs i think i'll goto sleep in a few, figure it out tomorrow @_@
[06:35] <amicrawle> how do i change my theam in the log on screen
[06:35] <Leafw> Jack_Sparrow : considering apt-get works so well I can get anything it throw away quite fast, but thanks
[06:35] <amicrawle> my password doesn't work
[06:35] <amicrawle> how do i change my theam in the log on screen
[06:35] <amicrawle> my password doesn't work
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Leafw: If you throw away something that cripples your system you may NOT be able to apt-get it back
[06:36] <Tjoels> is there a way to cancel updates?
[06:37] <gbrent> Tjoels: not a good idea, you will end up with broken packages possibly
[06:37] <Vegeta> I'm suddenly unable to get into the operating system kubuntu, it boots just fine, but after all the boot loadings it stops, and screen is like the boot screen but without any text, and stays like that. Does anyone know why?
[06:37] <gbrent> Vegeta: can you get to a terminal?
[06:38] <gbrent> Vegeta: possibly a virtual terminal?
[06:38] <Vegeta> I can start it in rcovery mode,
[06:38] <Tjoels> gbrent: i just updated some linux-headers and linux-image packages, and suddently my 'nvidia' graphics driver won't work!
[06:38] <kloptops> hhrmmmm, y'know thats what i've changed :O
[06:38] <Vegeta> gbrent: So yes I can probably acces the terminal, I also tried to acces files in the recovery mode, they worked fine
[06:38] <Dr_Willis>  linux-image  - is the kernel isent it?
[06:38] <gbrent> Vegeta: you can try to uininstall gnome desktop then reinstall
[06:39] <Tjoels> Dr_Willis, oh! :P
[06:39] <gbrent> Tjoels: can you get to you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Tjoels,  at least i THINK it is.. you may need to reinstall the  nvidia drivers
[06:39] <amicrawle> were is the place i change my login theam ?
[06:40] <kplot> is it possible download updates to offline install?
[06:40] <gbrent> Tjoels: tyoe this at command line: xorg-reconfigure -phigh zorg-reconfigure
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:40] <xipietotec> can anyone help me with a c++ library conflict problem?
[06:40] <amicrawle> were is the place i change my login theam ?
[06:40] <Tjoels> gbrent, aye, and i changed the value 'nvidia' to 'nv', but i don't know how to get the nvidia driver working again
[06:40] <markeib> i know this nice function that pressing ctrl-alt-esc makes your cursor a skull and the next window you click on will be killed. is there a way to do this in gnome?
[06:40] <gbrent> Tjoels: jack_sparrows way is actually better
[06:40] <Tjoels> bgbrent, the nv driver works..
[06:41] <der0b> markeib: you could map xkill to that key stroke
[06:41] <amicrawle> Tjoels:   i just downloaded the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[06:41] <Tjoels> gbrent: this one, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:41] <gbrent> yes that one
[06:41] <amicrawle> and su to root
[06:41] <markeib> good der0b but how? ^^
[06:41] <gbrent> Tjoels: it might take out nvidia but at least you can back to a gui
[06:41] <amicrawle> and init to level 3
[06:42] <amicrawle> and installed from there on the commandline
[06:42] <xipietotec> anyone able to help me with a problem regarding c++ libraries in ubuntu?
[06:42] <amicrawle> and when doen i init back to runleve 5
[06:42] <amicrawle> and rest x
[06:42] <Madam3> hi
[06:42] <Tjoels> gbrent: i changed the value 'nvidia' to 'nv', so i am in X now, but i want to get the 'nvidia' driver working again
[06:42] <amicrawle> and doen
[06:42] <der0b> markeib: System > Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts
[06:42] <gbrent> amicrawle, Tjoels: get the nvidia drivers from the repository. ubuntuguide.org has some good repos and instructions on nvidia
[06:43] <markeib> oh ok, will that work with compiz too?
[06:43] <Madam3> for ubuntu..ther is the driver?
[06:43] <Madam3> ubuntu 5.10 for usb datacom speedweb
[06:43] <amicrawle> gbernt :    where do i change my log in theam ?
[06:43] <Tjoels> gbrent: should i just update the nvidia driver to the latest version after this kernel upgrade?
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[06:43] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> amicrawle,  you mean the GDM login screen theme?
[06:43] <i4get> system administrator login window
[06:44] <amicrawle> yes
[06:44] <markeib> der0b: i only got some audio and general shortcuts there :s
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Theres a tool right there in the menus/prefrances for it. :P   see whar i4get  said.
[06:44] <Madam3> help me
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Linux  Ad Campagine "Explore Your Os!" :)
[06:45] <der0b> markeib: it turns out that I'm a fool, I apologize.  just checked and that isn't an option.  in the meantime, do alt+f2 and enter xkill.  hopefully somebody else can help
[06:45] <kloptops> hrmmm, now hopefully when i reboot, my pc wont be totally boned :>
[06:46] <amicrawle> i4get where do i di that
[06:46] <i4get> yes i hope they change the ussplash screen in next release
[06:46] <amicrawle> sys admin screen
[06:46] <markeib> thank you
[06:46] <LuisMendes> it's been a long time since we have no firefox updates, and mozilla released a couple already.. what might be going on the ubuntu update team?
 are you using gnome?
[06:46] <amicrawle> i'm in systems settinges
[06:46] <markeib> der0b: that's the little guy i wanted but he didn't kill the stupid error message that hides the time
[06:46] <amicrawle> nope kde
[06:46] <i4get> ok kde is different
[06:47] <Gamkeiller> ok any one else have the nvidia install problem after they upgraded to kernel 686 package.  I figured it out finally last night
[06:47] <amicrawle> should o drop off and goto gnome
[06:47] <der0b> errr, error message that hides the time?  what program is generating it?
[06:47] <i4get> either or are you using ubuntu or kbuntu?
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> gamewhat was the fix, so we can pass it on as needed?
[06:47] <DethKlok> Is there a way to open another X session so id be able to alt + ctrl + f9 into it?
[06:47] <amicrawle> well  it's kubuntu
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Gamkeiller:  was the fix, so we can pass it on as needed?
[06:48] <amicrawle> but installed gdm by default
[06:48] <i4get> ok
[06:48] <wiking> how to change bootscreen?
[06:48] <Gamkeiller> Jack_Sparrow: the nvidia glx will only work with the reistricted 386
[06:48] <Gamkeiller> package
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> good to know
[06:48] <Gamkeiller> so you have to isntall it manualy
[06:48] <i4get> well im trying to remember on kde..I think settings then theme manager..but
[06:49] <Gamkeiller> to get it to work with any other kernel
[06:49] <Gamkeiller> form synaptic
[06:49] <der0b> !usplash >wiking
[06:49] <Gamkeiller> Jack_Sparrow: do you get what i am talking about
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Gamkeiller: to run 686 and nvidia-glx you need to go to synaptic.. and...
[06:50] <i4get> if you boot to gnome then its in the system admin login window
[06:50] <amicrawle> ok brv
[06:50] <Gamkeiller> Jack_Sparrow: if you try to uninstall the nvidia drive throw synamptic and then reinstall them
[06:50] <amicrawle> brb
[06:50] <Gamkeiller> it install 386 over and over again
[06:50] <Gamkeiller> last night i had 6 installs
[06:50] <DauphinBleu> Hello. I am new to IRC so forgive me if I do something stupid. Not sure how this works but I'm having several problems with Evolution.
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Gamkeiller: and the sloution was?
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> solution
[06:51] <Gamkeiller> go back to 386 right now or run one of the manual install on the forums
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> do you have a forum link?
[06:51] <Gamkeiller> whitch i will not do as it not part of synaptic and i want to try and keep it to ubuntu standers
[06:51] <Gamkeiller> let me dig it up
 whats the issue?
[06:51] <Gamkeiller> there like 3 differnt threads
[06:52] <kloptops> huzzah, its back :D
[06:52] <Gamkeiller> if you do a how to nvidia you get them all
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Gamkeiller: I just wanted to paste the right ones into my notebook..
[06:52] <Gamkeiller> ok well let me test some
[06:53] <Gamkeiller> so i get you the right own ok
[06:53] <DauphinBleu> Cn't seem to import e-mail from ANY source, even evolution itself. I saved the e-mail as an .mbx file but it doesn't recognize it. Also, contacts keep mulitplying. So far it says I have almost 9,000 contacts
[06:53] <Gamkeiller> one*
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Gamkeiller: Thanks
[06:53] <LuisMendes> how can I update firefox? the 'check for updates' option is not available...
[06:53] <Gamkeiller> i want to stay with the ideales of ubuntu and make it as easy as it can
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Gamkeiller: I fully understand..
[06:53] <kittyhawk> hello
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> 891 users welcome you
[06:54] <Kasha> hi, please help me change resolution in my Ubuntu 6.06 box , i have nv drivers and Modeline "1280x1024 120.00"  233.79  1280 1384 1528 1776  1024 1025 1028 1097  -HSync +Vsync in Monitor Section, but monitor work at 85
[06:54] <DethKlok> luismendes: i think sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[06:54] <Gamkeiller> but i would say for the easy and staying with package manager is go back to 386 and remove completly 686
[06:54] <LuisMendes> DethKlok, it says it's the latest version, but it's not
[06:54] <Gamkeiller> uninstall glx and reinstall
[06:55] <Jimmey> How can I change the computer's host name via the command line?
[06:55] <kloptops> Jimmey: i think its, sudo hostname desiredhostname
[06:55] <Jimmey> Thanks mate
[06:56] <DethKlok> luismendes: what version u have?
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Gamkeiller: Thanks... always good to know a fix exists
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[06:56] <Kasha> and, the second question - where i can download pptp-client with depends , i can't connect to internet without it. Why developers can't include him in liveCD , Distr ?
[06:56] <Jimmey> sudo: unable to lookup Walla's homeboy device via gethostbyname()
[06:56] <tristan__> Is it possible to launch an application which will be automatically minimized in the minimize box with the command line?
[06:56] <kittyhawk> lupine_85: you suggested I install some ralink-drivers packages a while back
[06:57] <LuisMendes> DethKlok, it's 1.5.0.5
[06:57] <kittyhawk> I did and the network stopped working entirely
[06:57] <Rinnt> Does anyone here use Eclipse on Ubuntu?
[06:57] <tristan__> I launch kontact with an autostart script in Kubuntu but I want kontact to be put in the minimize box at start-up
[06:57] <kloptops> i did for a bit, its memory hungry and slow tho :/
[06:57] <DethKlok> luismendes: probably have to go to firefox.com to get the latest version
[06:58] <Rinnt> kloptops, you used Eclipse?
[06:58] <kloptops> Rinnt: yes
[06:58] <Rinnt> kloptops, did you have to tell it to use 1.5 jvm ?  I can't get some things working...
[06:59] <DethKlok> luismendes: looks like the ubuntu repositories only has 1.5.0.5
[06:59] <kloptops> Rinnt: have you used update-alternatives to change your default java vm?
[07:00] <Jimmey> I've changed the hostname to something with spaces in it, and now I can't change it back - Or use sudo.
[07:00] <Jimmey> Help
[07:00] <Rinnt> kloptops, I'm not familiar with update-alternatives?  unless you are refering to automatrix? which, in that case, yes I have... I even installed jvm 1.5 thru it
[07:00] <k0rd> is there anyway on ubuntu to tell if your drive is partitioned yet or not
[07:00] <k0rd> ?
[07:01] <Gamkeiller> it slips my mind right now but what the easy way to check what kernel you are using
[07:01] <kloptops> Rinnt: in a terminal, type: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:01] <xe||> hi, my nvidia graphics driver is broken since the kernel update from today... any idea?
[07:01] <Gamkeiller> k0rd: are you on a live cd
[07:01] <DauphinBleu> Any suggestions to at least be able to import email?
[07:01] <modulus> uname -a
[07:01] <lmosher> Is it possible to know in a script when a screensaver should be active? Effectively I want a script to run instead of the screen saver - is this possible?
[07:01] <Gamkeiller> xe||: i am working on a work around right now
[07:01] <lagrange> hi, how do you disable a laptop touchpad? already tried ksynaptics with no success
[07:01] <kloptops> make sure you've got the right java package selected :)
[07:02] <k0rd> is there a way to be able to tell if a hd is partitioned?
[07:02] <Gamkeiller> xe||: what kernel did you upgrade too
[07:02] <k0rd> because i left my pc on last night, and now the installer is telling me "can't make enough room"
[07:02] <PhilH> k0rd, are you still waiting on the same partitioning operation?!!
[07:02] <iceman24k> Where can i find the "Ubuntu" icon in the Gnome Toolbar to manualy change it ?
[07:02] <xe||> Gamkeiller: just the plain 686 via synaptic
[07:02] <_tom_> lagrange, maybe you can disable it in BIOS
[07:02] <xe||> Gamkeiller: maybe they broke something in the restricted-modules package
[07:02] <Rinnt> kloptops, weird... it said it was on 1.5.  Oh well, thanks anyway
[07:02] <PhilH> k0rd, you obviously need to exit the installer and reboot into windows to defrag then
[07:03] <Gamkeiller> xe||: from synaptic dose not supprt any other kernel for nvidia driver besides the 386
[07:03] <Spike1506> Linux [kernel 2.6.15-26-386]  || CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz at 2410.979MHz [4825.89 bogomips]  || Disk: 17.73 used of 74.38Gb || Mem: used 0.0/0.0 Swap: used 0.0/0.0 || Up: 1:29, Load: 0.34
[07:03] <lagrange> _tom_ yea, but I need to script something to switch USB mouse / touchpad
[07:03] <xe||> Gamkeiller: it worked that way until now
[07:03] <guay17> join #granada
[07:03] <kloptops> xe||: i uninstalled the nvidia-kernel-common, and then reinstalled all the packages it removed, make sure you double check and reinstall them all back in :)
[07:03] <lagrange> _tom_: any ideas?
[07:04] <kloptops> i had the same problem earlier, its fixed now... :)
[07:04] <Gamkeiller> kloptops: i tryed that did not work
[07:04] <_tom_> lagrange, no, sorry
[07:04] <z3r0x> does anybody know where I can find usb-serial.h ? I've installed the linux-headers but I can't find it. it should be in  /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/serial/
[07:04] <lagrange> _tom_: ok thanks, bye
[07:04] <iceman24k> Where does Ubuntu hite that stupid Brown / Orange icon the stick in the gnome app bar ?
[07:04] <Gamkeiller> i will try it again
[07:05] <wastrel> yay
[07:05] <Gamkeiller> there is a problem with that
[07:05] <Spike1506> i hate it when ubunutu updates the kernel and then add the old one and the new one to the grub boot list
[07:05] <Spike1506> :S
[07:05] <kloptops> whats that?
[07:05] <Gamkeiller> when it reinstalled it install the restrictive 386
[07:05] <Gamkeiller> not hte 686
[07:06] <AZzKikR> Spike1506, you can remove it by editing menu.lst IIRC
[07:06] <Gamkeiller> there something wrong witht he dependcy lsit
[07:06] <Gamkeiller> list
[07:06] <kloptops> manually reinstall all the packages it removes (i did it from a commandline)
[07:06] <Spike1506> i know AZzKikR
[07:06] <finalbeta> I can remove it by uninstalling the old kerner thru synaptic
[07:06] <Spike1506> but i hate it to do it manualy everytime
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I like having the option of going to the old one should the new one have issues.
[07:06] <kaxonda25> ola
[07:06] <kaxonda25> q tal
[07:06] <AZzKikR> Spike1506, aight, just informing :)
[07:06] <Spike1506> finalbeta, thannks for the hint
[07:06] <Spike1506> and AZzKikR  thanks :)
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[07:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:07] <silverfox> why my cups does'nt recongnize my printer anymore ?
[07:07] <Gamkeiller> kloptops: i trying to find a way around with the synaptic page to help those not so well rounded command line users
[07:07] <cntb> cups has trouble with many printers
[07:07] <silverfox> it' s ion 'lsusb' but can't add to cups
[07:07] <silverfox> it was working
[07:07] <cntb> lexmark z60 is one
[07:07] <silverfox> i think  i fucked something up :/
[07:07] <meff> uhm.. just apt-get update/upgraded and now x fails to load, and the nvidia module fails to load....
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[07:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:07] <silverfox> there's a way to reset de conf ?
[07:07] <kloptops> Gamkeiller: i would normally help, but i'm fried, and prolly going to sleep soonish
[07:08] <olivierb2> meff : I have the same problem as you
[07:08] <Gamkeiller> kloptops: that fien
[07:08] <Gamkeiller> fine
[07:08] <dshaper> can you provide me with an url with the default keybinds/hotkeys/wirekeys for fluxbox, thanks.
[07:08] <Gamkeiller> i just got in to work so i see what i can do
[07:08] <Spike1506> roar
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> meff: Have you changed your sources list manually or with a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu?
[07:08] <M_A_K> I created a generic user account and tweaked it just right.  I copied all of the files from that accounts /home dir to /etc/skel so that when I create a new user, all of the menu settings etc. are the way I want them to be for all of my students.  They can tweak as they like from there.  I created an account for one student and when he tried to log in, there were tooooo many error messages that came and went so fast I could not read them.  As a result, 
[07:08] <meff> it says unknow symbol boot_cpu_data
[07:09] <meff> Jack_Sparrow: nope, plain stock
[07:09] <robotgeek> hi, i am trying to poll if anyone knows of potential issues while backing up with rsync over a samba mount
[07:09] <M_A_K> What did I do wrong?
[07:09] <olivierb2> exactly the same problem meff !!!
[07:09] <meff> olivierb2: :(
[07:09] <olivierb2> I have a ATI card
[07:09] <lewix> how can i upgrade my uuntu
[07:09] <lewix> ubuntu*
[07:09] <kloptops> i had dinner, decided to reboot because i updated something, and first my grub decided not to work (20mins trying to find where i put that floppy so i wouldnt lose it), and 2hrs trying to figure out the nvidia kernel module thing :/
[07:09] <olivierb2> I'm use 363 kernel
[07:09] <dshaper> can you provide me with an url with the default keybinds/hotkeys/wirekeys for fluxbox, thanks
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lewix: From waht to what?
[07:10] <lewix> I heard that there's a new version out there
[07:10] <Gamkeiller> brb
[07:10] <olivierb2> I think that it's a bug in the last 686 kernel
[07:10] <meff> Jack_Sparrow: dmesg says unknown symbol boot_cpu_data.. x refuses to load
[07:10] <finalbeta> M_A_K, no idea, but you checked standard logs? /var/log/Messages etc.
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !schedule
[07:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:10] <dshaper> can you provide me with an url with the default keybinds/hotkeys/wirekeys for fluxbox, thanks
[07:10] <Spike1506> google ?
[07:10] <lewix> by the way,i'm still a newbie,then, sorry for my questions , which may sound stupid
[07:10] <M_A_K> finalbeta : the computer was useless.  Could not get to anything.
[07:11] <Spike1506> my mom hates linux :(
[07:11] <deadpuppies> does anyone know why when i try to configure the gnucash package, why it would say i have no c compiler?
[07:11] <meff> something is foobar'd with the new kernel and the restricted drivers..
[07:11] <robotgeek> dshaper: www.dotfiles.com
[07:11] <kling0n> Spike1506, change her wallpaper :)
[07:11] <Spike1506> lol
[07:11] <lewix> I'm just trying to figure out how can i go from my actual ubuntu to the upper version
[07:11] <deadpuppies> is C compiler not defaulted into ubuntu?
[07:11] <Jack_Sparrow> lewix: MAke your questions as clear as you can and answer the questions you are asked...  Example: I asked what you were running and what you wanted to upgrade to?
[07:11] <AZzKikR> Spike1506, my mom won't let me install ubuntu for her just because she dislikes the name
[07:11] <Spike1506> yeah same here AZzKikR
[07:11] <robotgeek> deadpuppies: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:11] <kling0n> haha
[07:11] <DauphinBleu> I need to get to my email eventually. No one has any ideas about how to force Evolution to recognize the .mbx files at all...or at least where to put them so I don't have to use the import wizard??  Going once.......going twice........
[07:12] <lewix> Jack_Sparrow, i don't even know what im running
[07:12] <Spike1506> deadpuppies,  install g++
[07:12] <kling0n> Spike1506, AZzKikR just change the splash screens then :)
[07:12] <deadpuppies> robotgeek: thx i'll try it
[07:12] <lewix> Jack_Sparrow, I just know that it's ubuntu
[07:12] <MattJ> http://pastebin.ca/170507
[07:12] <kling0n> or do it may way: "sorry mom, but we do not support windows anymore"
[07:12] <Spike1506> kling0n,  she's to good with computers :P so she's able to see the difrence between linux and windows :(
[07:12] <kling0n> may=my
[07:12] <Jack_Sparrow> lewix: To find out your vesion info use terminal: less /etc/lsb-release
[07:12] <kloptops> meff: there is a fix if you're willing to use a command line and have a fair idea whats going on.
[07:12] <AZzKikR> kling0n, yeah, but problem persists after she boots :)
[07:12] <modulus> BOFH.
[07:13] <meff> kloptops: sure, been using linux for years.. toss it to me
[07:13] <xipietotec> modulus: do you know how to fix a toaster? <evil grin>
[07:13] <lewix> Jack_Sparrow, thanks....then it's ubuntu breezy 5.10\
[07:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lewix: The current stable release is Dapper 6.06
[07:13] <kloptops> just do a: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common and then reinstall all of the modules that were removed, manually :)
[07:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Edgy will be released next month
[07:14] <kloptops> it worked fine for me.
[07:14] <MattJ> Really? :S
[07:14] <finalbeta> Jack_Sparrow, next month already :/ Just looked at the goals page and lots is unfinished, and goals where set low :p
[07:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !release
[07:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:14] <kling0n> Spike1506, AZzKikR  hmm 'cd /etc; for i in `find . -type f`; do sed 's/ubuntu/no this is NOT linux/gi'; done'?
[07:14] <lewix> Jack_Sparrow, so how can i upgrade it to the current stable release
[07:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !schedule
[07:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:15] <AZzKikR> kling0n, nice one :D
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> finalbeta: They have a lot of work to do ...
[07:15] <finalbeta> I know, they do a fine job ;)
[07:15] <kling0n> AZzKikR, might have to do /etc boot as well
[07:15] <Lard-O-Lad> how do i get to the expert mode of the ubuntu installer?
[07:16] <modulus> use expert on the boot prompt i think
[07:16] <kling0n> :D
[07:16] <AZzKikR> Lard-O-Lad, I think you have to download the other ISO
[07:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Lard-O-Lad: the alt / server install CD?
[07:16] <gan|y|med> hi
[07:16] <gan|y|med> i wanna add individual page numbers, e.g. page 2 being numbered "I" (first directory page), and the rest just normal, starting from 3. i have added a manual break, but everytime i delete the "2" all numbers disappear...
[07:17] <Lard-O-Lad> is there anyway to cut back on what ubuntu installs? im trying to get Dapper to fit on a 1GB USB pendrive
[07:17] <modulus> perhaps you could tell what program you're using.
[07:17] <kling0n> Lard-O-Lad, ubuntu-minimal
[07:17] <gan|y|med> ooo writer
[07:17] <kinema> how do i report a but against the mysql-server-5.0 package in edgy?  the but is in the package not mysql.
[07:18] <AZzKikR> kinema, a but?
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !bug
[07:18] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow,  your to smart :P
[07:18] <finalbeta> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[07:18] <Lard-O-Lad> kling0n: is there anyway to installing ubuntu-minimal from within the Live/Install CD?
[07:18] <lewix> please, can someone help me by telling me how i can upgrade my ubuntu breezy 5.10 to ubuntu drapper 6.06
[07:18] <AZzKikR> damn Xchat rox, I can't believe i removed it a while ago
[07:19] <kloptops> AZzKikR: i cant stand xchat, it annoys me to no end :X
[07:19] <Spike1506> i miss mIRC :(
[07:19] <Spike1506> :P
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Lard-O-Lad: You could run a live CD and only keep your changes and docs and other programs on the usb....
[07:19] <eltopo> sup?
[07:19] <deadpuppies> maybe someone has the wisdom to interpret this error:
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Lard-O-Lad: A persistent folder... like Knoppix does..
[07:19] <AZzKikR> kloptops, how come? i like it just because it has a minimize to systray option :)
[07:19] <deadpuppies>  XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[07:19] <eltopo> you tell me ;)
[07:20] <deadpuppies> look familiar to anyone? i dont see why i'd need perl
[07:20] <Lard-O-Lad> Jack_Sparrow: that just might work for my purposes
[07:20] <lewix> damn
[07:20] <kinema> were is the postinstall script for a package stored while a package is being installed?
[07:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I liked mirc but I am comfortable in Konversation (Under Gnome)
[07:20] <kloptops> AZzKikR: its always felt klunky, i've never used it and felt at ease. :/
[07:20] <erUSUL_> deadpuppies: you need to install the needed package
[07:20] <Lard-O-Lad> Jack_Sparrow: i tried the LiveCDPersistant Guide on ubuntu forums, but i got strange syslinux/grub errors
[07:20] <AZzKikR> kloptops, so what you've been using until now?
[07:21] <deadpuppies> well i ran the configure script first
[07:21] <deadpuppies> got that error
[07:21] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow,  is it as easy with scripts like mIRC? (have been a mIRC user for almost 4 years)
[07:21] <deadpuppies> so run the makefile now?
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Lard-O-Lad: I used chapter 3 of Ubuntu Hacks book
[07:21] <kloptops> AZzKikR: personally i use irssi (with screen, that way i can access my irc sessions from any terminal/ssh session) :)
[07:21] <jayphi> hello, can anyone tell me how to set a higher resolution, rite now im at 800x600
[07:21] <modulus> if supported maybe ctrl-alt-+
[07:21] <jayphi> i tried reconfiguring xserver
[07:21] <Spike1506> jayphi, goto System --> preferences --> Screen Resolution
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: Check it out... I think you may like it...
[07:22] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow,  ok :) ty
[07:22] <erUSUL_> !fixres > jayphi
[07:22] <AZzKikR> kloptops, haven't heard of that one yet... I did a quest for good IRC clients, and all the opinions went towards xchat. I used Gaim before that but that just feels flaky to mee
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[07:22] <AZzKikR> s/mee/me
[07:22] <DauphinBleu> No responses to my question at all....darn. Oh, well. I'll take that as a "we don't know".
[07:22] <silverfox> there's a way, to beck to defalt cups config?
[07:22] <dee> hello
[07:22] <kloptops> AZzKikR: its command line only, but its very easy to use, i have a good tutorial for it if you're interested :)
[07:22] <jayphi> spike1506, the highest listed is 800x600
[07:22] <dee> did anyone got a Radeon9000 or similar and some few minutes time?
[07:22] <FluxD> anyone have a suggestion for a good IM client for ubuntu other than gaim or kopete?
[07:23] <AZzKikR> kloptops, I'm mostly on gnome anyways, so I'll check it out when command line gets important :)
[07:23] <Spike1506> !resolution
[07:23] <jpjacobs> FluxD, if your looking for something cli try centericq
[07:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:23] <erUSUL_> dee: ask i used to have a 9250
[07:23] <kloptops> AZzKikR: so am i, best thing is, with screen, if you dont want it anymore, you can close it down, and then bring it back up whenever you feel like it, restarting x doesnt close it down either.
[07:24] <AZzKikR> kloptops, ah right, so you can idle your ass off in channels whether x is started or not? :D
[07:24] <dee> erUSUL_: did you know which chipset the card has?
[07:24] <FluxD> jpjacos it looks like a commandline client...
[07:24] <kloptops> or i can ssh into my machine, from work, and chat :>
[07:24] <erUSUL_> dee: lspci will tell you
[07:24] <talonlzr> whats the name of the fancy program that apt-get's and installs ati drivers, flash, mp3 support and all kinds of things with a few mouse clicks?
[07:24] <deadpuppies> my process of installing a tarball seems to not be going as well as the documentation states
[07:24] <Spike1506> bbl
[07:24] <dee> erUSUL_: we want to test if the drivers "radeon" and "ati" differs. :)
[07:25] <Spike1506> talonlzr,  one moment :)
[07:25] <frandavid100> hi
[07:25] <talonlzr> I'm queueing :)
[07:25] <deadpuppies> is it not as simple as configure->make
[07:25] <deadpuppies> ?
[07:25] <dee> erUSUL_: Ah, you don't have the card.. you had it?
[07:25] <AZzKikR> kloptops, yeah, a friend of mine used to do that... but i happen to be outsourced somewhere. They're running a proxy which only lets anything from port 80 through
[07:25] <FluxD> any other IM client?
[07:25] <erUSUL_> dee: ati is a dummy driver it loads either radeon for the cards it supports or the old one
[07:25] <mianos> re
[07:25] <Psychobudgie> is there an issue with the latest kernel updates?
[07:25] <modulus> you might be able to tell your ssh to run on 80
[07:25] <mianos> big problem here
[07:25] <frandavid100> I'm on edgy and I noticed that the new icons were removed
[07:25] <mianos> today there was a kernel update
[07:25] <mianos> now :
[07:25] <deadpuppies> anyoen got advice on my situation?
[07:25] <frandavid100> anyone knows the reason?
[07:26] <AZzKikR> modulus, yeah i know, but my server is using port 80 already
[07:26] <mianos>  i915: disagrees about version of symbol drm_open
[07:26] <gan|y|med> so what is the point of having to create a new format over and over again instead of just inserting a manual break and customizing the page number for each part of the document???
[07:26] <modulus> ah well.
[07:26] <dee> erUSUL_:  Yes, this is my opinion too, but we want to prove it. :)
[07:26] <Spike1506> talonlzr, the program is called Automatix
[07:26] <mianos> PyroManiak, what prob do u have with latest kernel update ?
[07:26] <mianos> (i think its from today)
[07:26] <mianos> i915?
[07:26] <mianos> drm?
[07:26] <mianos> root@22621ws82:~# modprobe i915
[07:26] <mianos> FATAL: Error inserting i915 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/volatile/i915.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[07:26] <AZzKikR> drm? ewww
[07:27] <mianos> direct rendering ...
[07:27] <deadpuppies> why would i see XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool after running configure for the app i want to install??
[07:27] <mianos> drm kernel modul
[07:27] <kxonda83> ola
[07:27] <AZzKikR> mianos, right :D
[07:27] <erUSUL_> dee: it is not an opinion is fact
[07:27] <mianos> is the  i915 drm modul broken with the latest kernel update?
[07:27] <MattJ> Don't tell me about direct rendering :(
[07:28] <mianos> dmesg: i915: disagrees about version of symbol drm_open
[07:28] <erUSUL_> dee: 'man ati'
[07:28] <mianos> and so on
[07:28] <dee> erUSUL_: I know the Manpage... thanks.
[07:31] <mianos> oh man
[07:32] <mianos> why - ?
[07:32] <FluxD> How do I connect to a wireless connection in ubuntu? I dont even see anything in the list . XP shows 3 that I can use
[07:32] <kloptops> hrmmm, well i best be off to catch some Zzz's, good luck with all your woes, and thanks for all the help :)
[07:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless
[07:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:32] <AZzKikR> FluxD, try installing wifi-radar
[07:32] <mianos> FluxD, google for ubuntu dapper networkmanager
[07:32] <FluxD> okies ty all
[07:33] <AZzKikR> by the way, does anyone have a K750i Sony Ericsson mobile phone?
[07:33] <khermans> is there any documentation on the optimizations done for the ubuntu-server kernel and distro versus the desktop version?
[07:34] <PingunZ> Where is gnome-panel is gconf ?
[07:35] <FluxD> Ok stilll see nothing do I have to use ndiswrapper then?
[07:36] <AZzKikR> FluxD, do you have PCI card?
[07:36] <FluxD> umm I dont know I am on a laptop
[07:36] <AZzKikR> Hrm...
[07:36] <Neo8750> probly
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> lspci -v
[07:36] <AZzKikR> can you detect what kind it is? Broadcom, Linksys...
[07:36] <AZzKikR> or what chipset
[07:36] <Neo8750> hwat did you do and determine you can't see it?
[07:36] <FluxD> broadcom
[07:37] <AZzKikR> broadcom is widely support iirc
[07:37] <AZzKikR> under ubuntu
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:37] <FluxD> well in xp I have a broadcom wireless manager
[07:37] <Neo8750> with 2.6 kernel i think
[07:37] <AZzKikR> wifi-radar is a gnome tool which acts as a wireless manager
[07:38] <talonlzr> you probably need the firmware dump?
[07:38] <talonlzr> re: bcm43xx
[07:38] <FluxD>  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 
[07:38] <talonlzr> type `dmesg |tail` or just `dmesg` and look towards the end for bcm43xx related messages
[07:38] <MetaMorfoziS> what command counts all files in a directory?
[07:38] <k0rd> question: I'm installing ubuntu, created partitions for swap, and root.  it gets to installing system and just closes itself
[07:38] <k0rd> any ideas?
[07:39] <trappist> what do I do when /etc/mtab is totally inaccessible, even by root
[07:39] <trappist> it prevents linux-restricted-modules from being mounted, which prevents X from starting
[07:39] <cara> Hi all
[07:39] <AZzKikR> MetaMorfoziS, ls -la | wc -l does some counting, but not exactly
[07:39] <cara> are the repositories down:?
[07:39] <k0rd> question: I'm installing ubuntu, created partitions for swap, and root.  it gets to installing system and just closes itself
[07:39] <AZzKikR> the . and .. directories are counted as well
[07:40] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: find dir/ -type f | wc -l
[07:40] <FluxD> am I good to go or do I have to do any other steps? Just follow the help.ubuntu link?
[07:40] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[07:40] <cara> my friend is using us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[07:40] <AZzKikR> trappist, ls -lA | wc -l seems to do the trick too :)
[07:41] <AZzKikR> mind the uppercase A
[07:41] <cara> and he can't connect to them.  He does have a net connection and can browse but the update manager tells him he's not connected to the net
[07:41] <trappist> AZzKikR: that will also count directories
[07:41] <AZzKikR> trappist, oh right, he wanted files... misread
[07:41] <cara> I don't know if the server drop pings but he's tried pinging them and he can't ping them
[07:41] <dee> ok, bye-
[07:41] <FluxD> AZzKikR, what do you I have to do now? I have broadcom 4318
[07:41] <cara> just wondering there's something going on and if it could be his fault
[07:41] <k0rd> do i need to create a partition for everything
[07:41] <k0rd> aka /swap /usr
[07:41] <cara> or something he didn't set up
[07:42] <k0rd> or just one for /swap and one for /root
[07:42] <k0rd> ?
[07:42] <cara> it doesn't do autopartitioning?
[07:42] <k0rd> cara, i manually did it
[07:42] <cara> is this your first Linux?
[07:42] <k0rd> and made two, one for root one for swap
[07:42] <k0rd> yeah
[07:42] <cara> Yeah
[07:42] <k0rd> it wouldn't do it automatically for some reason
[07:42] <AZzKikR> FluxD, have you tried looking at the ubuntu forums? there seem to be quite some topics on the matter
[07:42] <FluxD> ok
[07:42] <cara> I tried autoparitioning when I first started out just to get familiar with linux
[07:43] <talonlzr> Spike1506: ahh, thanks!
[07:43] <talonlzr> :)
[07:43] <AZzKikR> FluxD, try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188290
[07:43] <cara> then when I felt comfortable I parititioned manually
[07:43] <k0rd> cara, would you happen to know how many partitions I need?
[07:43] <k0rd> the install program just automatically closes
[07:43] <k0rd> im on the LiveCD btw
[07:43] <cara> well, usually I would make a /root /swap /home
[07:43] <cara> because my /home always get big
[07:43] <cara> mp3s porn etc... ya know
[07:44] <k0rd> i have 20 gb for /root 1 gb for swap
[07:44] <k0rd> got around 50 gb to throw around
[07:44] <Trae> I installed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic, and well, found (as usual) that I don't care for KDE.  I tried to remove kubuntu-desktop from synaptic and it said all was updated, however, the kubuntu splash and "KDM" still show up.  What should I do to remedy this problem?  tx in advanced
[07:44] <cara> well I had a 20G to work with but if you want you can make a /home
[07:44] <cara> its best if you read up on some stuff and then make your decision
[07:44] <k0rd> where would I find some information?
[07:44] <cara> I'm just trying to find out why my friend can't update his ubuntu
[07:44] <k0rd> ubuntuforums?
[07:45] <cara> http://www.tldp.org  and yes that
[07:45] <rellis> Anyone know if there's any reason not to use the KDE based version of Ubuntu? I have never used Ubunu but I have run Slackware w/KDE for the last 4-5 years and while I like Ubuntu I would like to keep KDE.
[07:45] <AZzKikR> rellis, its a personal taste
[07:45] <cara> yup
[07:45] <lewix> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:45] <lewix> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:45] <lewix> what does it mean please?
[07:45] <Trae> lewix, use something like pastebin.com for that much text in the future please
[07:45] <AZzKikR> rellis, i used to be in love with KDE, but gnome seems less bloated to me. And not EVERYTHING starts with a K... ;-)
[07:45] <lewix> 0k
[07:45] <lewix> sorry
[07:46] <Trae> np
[07:46] <Trae> it was just two lines though
[07:46] <Trae> seemed like more :)
[07:46] <rellis> Azzkikr: I haven't tried gnome in quite some time, I've been considering giving it another go.
[07:46] <AZzKikR> Trae, it's like 4 lines on my screen, each ;-)
[07:46] <Trae> AZzKikR, heh
[07:46] <lewix> lol sorry man
[07:46] <Th1eF`> hello how i can read the partition of Ubuntu from Windows XP ???
[07:46] <Trae> lewix, no worries mate
[07:46] <pantaloon> hey, can someone help a n00b out? how do i install .sh files using /. ? it says "permission denied" and if i try to use sudo it says "command not found"
[07:46] <lewix> anyway, I don't know the meaning of this
[07:47] <AZzKikR> rellis, this is my first real gnome AND linux installment which i've been using ever, and I am very, very pleased with it
[07:47] <lewix> I'm trying to updates some stuff and this is the message i get
[07:47] <Trae> lewix, try in #ubuntu-fr or something perhaps... maybe that server is down?  Not sure
[07:47] <Trae> lewix, apt-get update ?
[07:47] <lewix> no
[07:47] <dshaper> pantaloon: sudo bash
[07:47] <AZzKikR> rellis, i think you need to just install it, and try some things out. I did the same with Kubuntu and ubuntu. I decided to go with ubuntu
[07:47] <pantaloon> ah, i shoulda known...htanks dshaper
[07:48] <k0rd> any ideas on why the installation would automatically close itself mid-install?
[07:48] <lewix> Trae, the update manager
[07:48] <Th1eF`> how i can read the partition of Ubuntu from Windows XP ??? :)
[07:48] <valente> hello
[07:48] <GH{^0^}ST> hello all
[07:48] <Trae> lewix, sorry, not sure.  :(
[07:48] <GH{^0^}ST> my be some smart in here can help me out
[07:48] <lewix> hello
[07:49] <lewix> Trae, damn! thanks anyway
[07:49] <valente> alguien habla espaol
[07:49] <lewix> un poco
[07:49] <rellis> Azzkik: I think I'll give it a try. Thanks for the info.
[07:49] <valente> speak spanish
[07:49] <k0rd> it says OS Error: Read Only File System "target/home"
[07:49] <k0rd> how can I fix this?
[07:49] <rellis> make /home rw =p
[07:49] <k0rd> change the filesystem?
[07:49] <GH{^0^}ST> even no this is ubuntu bust most people run a server any one no what channel i can go they can tell me how to get read of flood bots and where there getting they flood bots to flood server and channels
[07:49] <k0rd> which would be good "NTFS"?
[07:50] <AZzKikR> k0rd, hell no
[07:50] <k0rd> suggestions, im new to linux
[07:50] <rellis> k0rd: You mounted an NTFS partiion as /home?
[07:50] <k0rd> tried to
[07:50] <k0rd> at least
[07:50] <valente> donde pueo encontrar informacion de como actualizar mi fiefox
[07:50] <rellis> k0rd: To the best of my knowlesdge the module to write to NTFS is not in a good place yet.
[07:50] <k0rd> what would be a good filesystem to use then
[07:51] <timonator> hello folks. a friend of mine i'm on the phone with just booted ubuntu on an asus a7vc laptop and he only gets a black screen after some loading. he can, however, switch through virtual consoles.
[07:51] <AZzKikR> k0rd, NTFS has minor support under linux. NTFS is usually read-only, but drivers are being developed which can also write to NTFS, but are highly experimental
[07:51] <cara> valente,  www.mozilla.org?
[07:51] <rellis> k0rd: There are many, ext3, reiserfs, etc..
[07:51] <rellis> k0rd: ext3 is probably the most common.
[07:51] <GH{^0^}ST> k0rd they guys in here just follow what they say to do there smart and they no there stuff with unbuntu for partition and setup
[07:52] <AZzKikR> k0rd, most people install their linux systems using the ext3 fs
[07:52] <ubuntu> hi
[07:52] <ubuntu> timonator
[07:53] <timonator> yay
[07:53] <kishore> other than ext3....... wot fs is available... :(
[07:53] <iceman24k> To bad you cant use karamba in gnome
[07:53] <timonator> gdesklets?
[07:53] <GH{^0^}ST> you need a ext3 lunix-spaw extended partition ext3 inside the extended partition
[07:53] <Obstfliege> omg SCHEISS UBUNTU@Notebook
[07:53] <AZzKikR> kishore, reiserfs
[07:53] <kishore> AZzKikR, is it another type of  fs
[07:53] <GH{^0^}ST> linux
[07:53] <iceman24k> Cant use the "applett" i want with gdesklets ;(
[07:54] <AZzKikR> kishore, yeah, you got ext2 (old), ext3 and the reiserfs
[07:54] <kishore> AZzKikR, ok got...
[07:54] <tchize> Hello, is the lastest dapper kernel update broken? My nvidia drivers don't load anymore. I get this when trying to load driver:  nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol boot_cpu_data
[07:55] <raashaad2020> where channal arabic
[07:55] <Obstfliege> ubuntu wont start the desktop @ boot
[07:55] <pantaloon> anyone know the command to configure xorg?
[07:55] <Wespe> Obstfliege: was sagt er denn?
[07:55] <timonator> hui
[07:55] <pantaloon> my xorg.config file is gone
[07:55] <Obstfliege> hi wespe, er sagt gar nix das isses ja
[07:55] <kishore> AZzKikR, wots the  difference between.. ext3 and reiserfs
[07:56] <Wespe> Obstfliege: grauer hintergrund, blaue schrift?
[07:56] <kishore> AZzKikR, any extra features
[07:56] <Obstfliege> schwaryer bildschirm
[07:56] <Th1eF`> hello can anyone tell me how i can read the partition of Ubuntu from Windows XP ??? :)
[07:56] <Obstfliege> bin nun in ne konsole gewechselt
[07:56] <cwkx> Does anyone have any idea about what I must do to get dark themes to work with programs like synaptic?
[07:56] <AZzKikR> kishore, I don't know the exact details, but reiserfs does things differently
[07:56] <Jonex> How do I set up a socks server?
[07:56] <iceman24k> wow 172 updates :(
[07:56] <Wespe> Obstfliege: ffen mal die xorg.conf
[07:56] <Obstfliege> Wespe: ok warte
[07:56] <AZzKikR> kishore, it's better to look it up in wikipedia or some other resource, cus it's quite complex :0
[07:56] <lewix> that
[07:56] <timonator> Wespe: btw: er ist auf der livecd
[07:57] <lewix> that's weird
[07:57] <cara> Th1eF`, what filesystem format
[07:57] <lewix> im not able to upgrade all the packages
[07:57] <kishore> AZzKikR, i mean any care.. needed while instalation
[07:57] <Th1eF`> Windows XP =ntfs
[07:57] <lewix> some of them are like down I guess
[07:57] <Wespe> Obstfliege, timonator: live cd? na dann wei ich auch nicht wie das tun soll....
[07:57] <Th1eF`> cara Windows XP =ntfs
[07:57] <lewix> do you have guys have the same response when you type in 'apt-get update'
[07:58] <cara> Th1eF`, sorry I should have been more clear, Ubuntu
[07:58] <cara> what filesystem
[07:58] <AZzKikR> kishore, well.. it's supported and stable
[07:58] <kishore> ok
[07:58] <Obstfliege> Wespe: ja wollte testen ob es nun geht mit der neuesten Version
[07:58] <DavidT> hi guys
[07:58] <Th1eF`> cara ntfs
[07:58] <Obstfliege> Wespe: xorg.conf offen was soll ich da
[07:58] <kishore> wots the language usign here other than english
[07:59] <SS2> does epiphany have a reminder funktion like ff closing the app wenn having more than one tab open?
[07:59] <lewix> particularly on ftp.free.fr
[07:59] <cara> Th1eF`, what filesystem format is Ubuntu? ntfs?
[07:59] <Wespe> Obstfliege: was ahst denn fr Treiber drinstehen?
[07:59] <Th1eF`> cara im sorry....ubuntu ext3
[07:59] <Dana1> Argh, I thought it was just an Edgy issue, but now I'm getting the SAME issue in Dapper:
[08:00] <Dana1> Xorg crashes the instant I switch to a TTY.
[08:00] <cara> search for explor2fs or something like that
[08:00] <Obstfliege> Wespe: <noob wodrunter steht das_
[08:00] <DavidT> I'm sorry to speak english but did x crash after an update of the kernel for you few minutes ago ?
[08:00] <Obstfliege> Wespe: Module?
[08:00] <Wespe> Obstfliege: Section Device
[08:01] <SEJeff> DavidT: You use nvidia don't you?
[08:01] <DavidT> yes
[08:01] <SEJeff> DavidT: Known issue :)     It will be fixed very soon
[08:01] <Dana1> argh.
[08:01] <DavidT> crap
[08:02] <Wespe> Obstfliege: Section "Device" und dann darunter "Driver"
[08:02] <Obstfliege> Wespe: ah ... ati
[08:02] <Dana1> Any ideas for my issue?
[08:02] <Wespe> Obstfliege: mach mal vesa draus
[08:02] <Wespe> Obstfliege: dann specihern
[08:02] <Trae> anyone know how you can get Gnome 2.16 on Dapper?
[08:03] <Trae> via apt?
[08:03] <SEJeff> Wespe: /j #ubuntu-de
[08:03] <Wespe> SEJeff: sorry
[08:03] <Obstfliege> Wespe: und dann reboot? oder reicht x start oder  wie das war
[08:03] <AZzKikR> Trae, I think you can better wait until Edgy arrives
[08:03] <SEJeff> Trae: The only way to do that is to update to edgy.
[08:03] <SEJeff> Wespe: thats ok :)
[08:03] <Trae> SEJeff, AZzKikR heh
[08:03] <Wespe> Obstfliege: private chat
[08:03] <Trae> when is Edgy due again?
[08:03] <DavidT> thanks
[08:04] <DavidT> so I'm using VESA
[08:04] <DavidT> any idea how much time it will take
[08:04] <Dana1> Argh, how do I fix my crash?
[08:04] <Obstfliege> Wespe: ja schreib mich an kp unter irssi
[08:04] <DavidT> Dana1
[08:04] <AZzKikR> Dana1, no man, any more details?
[08:04] <AZzKikR> Dana1, tried internet and forum searches?
[08:04] <DanaG> Yeah, but I'm having trouble finding the exact issue.
[08:05] <DanaG> Xgl crashes whenever I switch to a TTY.
[08:05] <Wespe> Obstfliege: geht scheinbar nicht. egal. sudo killall gdm
[08:05] <DanaG> (Driver is NVIDIA.)
[08:05] <DavidT> try to use vesa instead of nvidia in the xorg.conf
[08:05] <DavidT> it works  for me
[08:05] <Wespe> Obstfliege: dann sudo gdm
[08:05] <AZzKikR> DanaG, Xgl... hmm never tried that one out, especially since it seems so buggy to me
[08:05] <DanaG> Well, Xgl won't work under vesa.
[08:05] <DavidT> sure
[08:05] <DanaG> If I run plain Xorg, I believe it doesn't crash.
[08:06] <DavidT> but I also have a non xgl session as well
[08:06] <AZzKikR> DanaG, did you verify that?
[08:06] <DanaG> Let me try...
[08:06] <DavidT> running right now
[08:07] <tchize> Hello, where do i report a broken ubuntu package?
[08:08] <Obstfliege> Wespe: ?
[08:08] <Wespe> Obstfliege: jo, sudo killall gdm
[08:08] <Wespe> Obstfliege: dann sudo gdm
[08:08] <Tjoels> I juat upgraded the following kernel packages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23452 and now my 'nvidia' driver won't work.
[08:09] <AZzKikR> hmmm gotta wash my car for a bit
[08:09] <khermans> How can i determine the block size of my reiserfs partition?
[08:09] <DanaG> Doesn't crash if not running Xgl.
[08:10] <Tjoels> any help appreciated.
[08:10] <DanaG> The last 2 things I see before a crash:
[08:10] <DanaG> NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 12, COCOD 00000000 00000000 00000030 00000224 00000000
[08:10] <DanaG> NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L1 -> L0
[08:13] <DanaG> It's definitely an NVIDIA GLX issue.
[08:13] <chris109> Do you already know? - After the update of today nividia kernel module doesn't load anymore.
[08:13] <HellDragon> hih
[08:13] <DanaG> I haven't updated -- It loads fine.
[08:14] <DanaG> It just crashes upon switching to a TTY.
[08:14] <DanaG> Even if I blacklist agpgart and intel_agp and set NVAGP to 0
[08:14] <DanaG> (card is PCIe)
[08:15] <chris109> [17180367.124000]  nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol boot_cpu_data
[08:15] <MenZano> Er, I think i just locked my keyboard in my command line.
[08:15] <leks> anybody using SQUIRRELMAIL?
[08:15] <leks> with a foreign charset?
[08:15] <MenZano> In one of my terminals, I can't type :S
[08:15] <Yasuo> i installed fglrx-driver from ati.com and xine is very slow, what can i do?
[08:15] <MenZano> How would I go about fixing that?
[08:15] <mikefoo> so if I just start ntpd, my time should stay sync;ed yes?
[08:16] <kryptoz_> hi all
[08:17] <Yasuo> [ hint ]  Your X server doesn't support YV12 overlays.
[08:18] <instabin> could some one help me with freeNX
[08:18] <Obstfliege> Wespe: mit wesa gehts
[08:18] <instabin> I cant tunnel my rpd sessions through it
[08:18] <steveire> here's a good one: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=52053889
[08:18] <K|LL3RF4B3R> hello !!!!
[08:18] <Yasuo> what may i do about this? im happy i barely somehow got this fglrx-driver.deb generated by ati-insteller to work
[08:18] <K|LL3RF4B3R> speak italian here?
[08:18] <MenZano> !it
[08:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:19] <Wespe> Obstfliege: dna wunderbar
[08:19] <chris109> Does anybody know when we'll get a patch of today's patch?
[08:19] <Garsty> my apt-get is 'stuck', I can't install or remove any applications. it says that installing linux-locale-en-gb will break firefox and something like "vlc depends on wxliib..., wxlib is not to be installed" and a lot of other similar error messages. -f option does not help.
[08:19] <MenZano> So.... noone has a clue why my keyboard locked up in a terminal?
[08:20] <SirKillalot> hello how can I foce dpkg to install a package even when it has to overwrite files of another package?
[08:20] <optimusprime> is the Firefox2.0 beta zipped in .exe ?
[08:21] <jbroome> optimusprime: sounds like you got the win version
[08:21] <k0rd> how do i make a partition a certain file system?
[08:21] <k0rd> it says "unknown" atm
[08:21] <AZzKikR> k0rd, use GParted
[08:21] <k0rd> where can I find this?
[08:22] <AZzKikR> k0rd, its actually a gui application to partitioning
[08:22] <AZzKikR> k0rd, apt-get install gparted
[08:22] <k0rd> well, thing is
[08:22] <k0rd> im on the live cd
[08:22] <k0rd> :\
[08:22] <AZzKikR> k0rd, oh it already has a partitionmanager with it iirc
[08:22] <AZzKikR> system -> administration -> gnome partition editor
[08:22] <k0rd> the gnome partition manager?
[08:22] <AZzKikR> k0rd,  aye
[08:23] <L1> Has anyone else have an intermitent login problem with Dapper on a laptop?  The login will freeze at different places in the login sequence after acepting UID/PWD
[08:23] <k0rd> ty
[08:23] <instabin> Hello
[08:24] <instabin> I can not tunnel my rdp over FreeNX
[08:24] <SirKillalot> how can I change the information of a deb package, for example the name or the version number?
[08:24] <AZzKikR> aight, im off towards footy practice
[08:25] <Caplain> is grub-install on the livecd?
[08:26] <DanaG> Okay, I still can't figure this out...
[08:26] <Caplain> or is there a way to boot past the 8GB mark?
[08:26] <diogo> Greetings! I'm having a few performance issues with a few large (400MB) mbox mailboxes... Should I migrate to Maildir?
[08:26] <lewix> question
[08:27] <lewix> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:27] <lewix> what does it mean?
[08:27] <Frederick> hi folks doesnt the image magick libs distributed in ubuntu have debug info?
[08:27] <RetLaw> Hi Folks, I have a strange problem ! I installed ubuntu-server out-of-the-box. As soon ubuntu is started, all other pc's on the lan no langer can resolve names. When a tracert is executed, on ip's are shown. When I restart my router everything is back to normal, tracert also shows names. The ubuntu is pingeable from the lan. I can  repeat as much as I want, just a ubuntu-reboot is needed to make it fail again. Any ideas ?
[08:27] <Obstfliege> Wespe: Ich hatte "fr@her" probs mit hotplug und sound. da das mit der live cd nun klappt kann ich mich da auf die feste installation verlassen?
[08:28] <habeeb> Greetings, I have a text file  (subtitles) which is in greek, and I want to encode it to UTF-8 so that it can be viewed by Mplayer etc. How can I do that? Thanks!
[08:29] <Wespe> Obstfliege: du wirst es nach der installation wieder umstellen mssen. ich habe eigentlich berhaupt keine probleme mit hotplug oder sound, probeirs einfach mal
[08:29] <Trae> anyoneknow how to remove Kubuntu from Ubuntu?
[08:29] <Trae> I have the kubuntu boot up
[08:29] <Virtuall> hello
[08:30] <Trae> (originally had ubuntu but installed kubuntu-desktop through synaptic)
[08:30] <Virtuall> i'm having problem installing ubuntu
[08:30] <Trae> removed it through synaptic  and yet I still have KDE apps and kubuntu splash stuff
[08:30] <DanaG> Well, go to ubuntu-desktop and remove any dependencies
[08:30] <DanaG> (next time, use aptitude to install stuff)
[08:30] <Virtuall> can anyone explain how to make Ubuntu live see "third IDE" attached hard drive?
[08:31] <Virtuall> (or give a link)
[08:31] <Garsty> my apt-get is 'stuck', I can't install or remove any applications. it says that installing linux-locale-en-gb will break firefox and something like "vlc depends on wxliib..., wxlib is not to be installed" and a lot of other similar error messages. -f option does not help.
[08:31] <Virtuall> (please)
[08:31] <DanaG> Modprobe the module it needs.
[08:31] <morbid88> hey guys. I'm trying to get apache to recongnize php... but my browser keeps prompting to download the phtml file.
[08:31] <bobbyd> hi
[08:31] <Virtuall> DanaG, WHICH module? :)
[08:31] <Virtuall> i'm googling for a half an hour or so
[08:31] <DanaG> Well, find out what hardware you have...
[08:31] <bobbyd> how can I get a 2.6.16 kernel in my dapper install?
[08:31] <basvg> hmm.. hi all. After update today I got the message "failed to load nvidia kernel module"... can anyone help me fix?
[08:31] <PhilH> morbid88, what happens with .php files? have you actually set up PHP?
[08:31] <Obstfliege> Wespe: zwischendurch habe ich ein paar Grafikfehler was ist das nun f@r ein Treiber?
[08:32] <Garsty> can anyone help me? :/
[08:32] <morbid88> I've installed php using apt-get
[08:32] <bobbyd> basvg, update your restricted modules package
[08:32] <Virtuall> that's not my hardware, not my PC and the warranty forbids me to open it
[08:32] <Virtuall> :(
[08:32] <morbid88> PhilH: I did it using apt-get
[08:32] <basvg> bobbyd: thanks, trying ...
[08:32] <Wespe> Obstfliege: ein stinknormaler VGA treiber ohne irgendwelchen 3d schnickschnack
[08:32] <amicrawle> hey guys is there a  good sound mixer for sb 512 card  i need 3d sound  in kmix
[08:32] <gypsymauro> hello
[08:33] <PhilH> Any of you more seasoned #ubuntu users know of a tutorial for setting up PHP and apache?
[08:33] <Wespe> Obstfliege: du kannst dann ja spter den ATI treiber installieren
[08:33] <DanaG> Try lspci
[08:33] <Wespe> Obstfliege: steht bei ubuntuusers.de im wiki
[08:33] <rellis> Quick question, does Ubuntu (gnome) support accessing CIFS shares by default? So if I'm in Ubuntu can I just open the file manager and refrence a smb:// path?
[08:33] <DanaG> Forbids you to open it?  That's lame.
[08:33] <L1> Does anyone else have an intermitent login problem with Dapper on a laptop?  The login will freeze at different places in the login sequence after acepting UID/PWD
[08:33] <iceman24k> Anyone know where the Stupid UBUNTU icon is located. the one in the Gnome toolbar
[08:33] <gypsymauro> I've installed xubuntu-desktop over an ubuntu now it changes my boot splash screen and the gdm theme how I can to return to ubuntu normal theme?
[08:33] <antoxz> good evening, everybody.
[08:33] <Virtuall> PhilH sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[08:33] <Virtuall> DanaG i know, tell them!
[08:33] <DanaG> Who is it?
[08:34] <DanaG> (OEM)
[08:34] <bobbyd> L1, run the memcheck program from the boot menu to check your ram
[08:34] <PhilH> Virtuall, and that'll configure httpd.conf correctly for him? cool
[08:34] <offby1> running "aptitude upgrade" gets me Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main linux-headers-2.6.15-26 2.6.15-26.47 40 Forbidden :-(
[08:34] <basvg> pfff, sure glad I remember how aptitude works ;)
[08:34] <Obstfliege> Wespe: ok danke! bye
[08:34] <Virtuall> PhilH: well thats Ubuntu not Gentoo ;)
[08:34] <DanaG> I wish people would use aptitude instead of apt-get
[08:35] <Virtuall> DanaG no idea
[08:35] <DanaG> because aptitude will automatically remove automatically-installed dependencies
[08:35] <offby1> DanaG: it't ain't helpin' me any at the moment
[08:35] <Virtuall> some latvian pc shop
[08:35] <Virtuall> :P
[08:35] <DanaG> Bleh.
[08:35] <Virtuall> 0000:00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A SATA 2-Port Controller (rev 80)
[08:35] <Virtuall> 0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 07)
[08:36] <DanaG> Okay, that helps
[08:36] <PhilH> morbid88, did you get that?
[08:36] <PhilH> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[08:36] <morbid88> PhilH, yeah I did that.
[08:36] <morbid88> PhilH, Virtuall: My apache server still isn't processing it.
[08:36] <PhilH> morbid88, obviously drop any packages you already have installeds
[08:36] <offby1> _and_ it exits with 0, despite having failed.
[08:36] <DanaG> try modprobe'ing sata_via
[08:36] <morbid88> PhilH: it uninstalls the old ones.
[08:37] <Virtuall> DanaG done already, no use
[08:37] <L1> bobbyd, run memcheck from grub?
[08:37] <morbid88> PhilH: where do I look to see what types apache is processing? (IIS was a lot simpler...)
[08:38] <bobbyd> L1, yes
[08:38] <basvg> bobbyd: didn't fix it...
[08:38] <basvg> bobbyd: I also tried reinstalling nvidia-kernel-common
[08:38] <DanaG> How about "system -> administration -> device manager"?
[08:39] <Virtuall> DanaG it's just... not there
[08:39] <PhilH> morbid88,  httpd.conf
[08:39] <bobbyd> basvg, sorry, I can't help then :(
[08:39] <DanaG> The device, or the app?
[08:39] <basvg> bobbyd: hmm ok, thanks
[08:39] <jmaxx> apt-get??
[08:39] <Virtuall> DanaG: device
[08:39] <DanaG> hmmm.
[08:39] <psycode> What's up with Dapper's CD? In older version the CD used to act as an installation CD, later came an installation + live CD, but this one seems to be live only... I just want to install ubuntu on a new machine - is there a way to do this without starting ubuntu live?
[08:39] <DanaG> that is odd.
[08:40] <lewix> i really need help
[08:40] <morbid88> PhilH: thanks. I'll look at it.
[08:40] <lewix> is someone available
[08:40] <Virtuall> DanaG: yep. the DVD-RW is there, but the HDD isn't
[08:40] <morbid88> PhilH: stupid question, where do I find that?
[08:40] <psycode> anyone?
[08:40] <DanaG> Welll, since sata is scsi, try modprobeing some scsi things -- let me look on mine.
[08:40] <lewix> I don't know why i can't edit my sources.list
[08:40] <basvg> anyone else have a clue? the detailed xorg log claims that there is an unknown symbol or unknown parameter in .../../nvidia.ko
[08:41] <Virtuall> psycode, try alternate CD
[08:41] <Virtuall> at ubuntu.com
[08:41] <DanaG> scsi_mod
[08:41] <Virtuall> DanaG: ok...
[08:41] <L1> bobbyd,  grub> memcheck      returns  "Error 27:  Unrecognized command"
[08:41] <PhilH> morbid88, i think it's /etc/httpd/conf/
[08:41] <rellis> So does anyone know if you can open a CIFS share inside Ubuntu? For instance in KDE you can open Konqueror and access smb://path/ assuming you have the samba deps and whatnto..
[08:41] <morbid88> PhilH: Thanks, I'll check.
[08:41] <psycode> Virtuall, but why should i download it when i have the official cd (which was sent by mail)?
[08:41] <lewix> I type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and i get an empty windows without any text
[08:41] <DanaG> and sr_mod
[08:42] <DanaG> or sd_mod
[08:42] <DanaG> SCSI disk (sd) driver
[08:42] <lewix> I go manually in the folder /etc/apt/ and type gksudo gedit sources.list and i have the list
[08:42] <lewix> I want to change it tough so when i change and save
[08:42] <lewix> and i type apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:43] <DanaG> apt-get update first.
[08:43] <DanaG> and try using aptitude
[08:43] <lewix> I get :lewix@Lewix:/etc/apt$ apt-get update
[08:43] <lewix> E: Opening /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
[08:43] <Virtuall> DanaG: probably just not my day
[08:43] <DanaG> (aptitude will throw up lots of dependency errors -- it helps to MANUALLY look through and try to fix.)
[08:43] <Virtuall> night actually
[08:43] <Virtuall> :P
[08:43] <RetLaw>  Hi Folks, I have a strange problem ! I installed ubuntu-server out-of-the-box. As soon ubuntu is started, all other pc's on the lan no longer can resolve names. When a tracert is executed, only ip's are shown. When I restart my router everything is back to normal, tracert also shows names. The ubuntu is pingeable from the lan. I can  reproduce this as much as I want, just a ubuntu-reboot is needed to make it fail again. Any ideas ? PLEA
[08:44] <lewix> when I type dir in the folder /etc/apt i see 'sources.list' and no sources.list
[08:44] <DanaG> What router?
[08:44] <DanaG> Perhaps looking for ipv6 kills it...
[08:44] <RetLaw> SMC7404BRA
[08:44] <lewix> DanaG, what's aptitude
[08:44] <bobbyd> RetLaw, does your server have the same ip address as your router?
[08:44] <PhilH> morbid88, any luck?
[08:44] <DanaG> command-line GUI apt tool...
[08:45] <RetLaw> bobbyd: no the ip is given by my dhcp-server (ipcop)
[08:45] <lewix> DanaG: what's wrong with apt then? how can i use aptitude? can you help me please
[08:45] <clearzen> can anyone recommend a program to convert .vob to xvid?
[08:45] <morbid88> PhilH: I found the file, but I don't know how to edit it...
[08:46] <morbid88> I mean, not sure what to put in there.
[08:46] <PhilH> ok, do you want to send a copy to me?
[08:46] <RetLaw> DanaG: can I switch-off ipv6 in ubuntu ?
[08:46] <antoxz> could anybody please tell how to add a password prompt when booting in single-user mode?
[08:46] <bobbyd> clearzen, mencoder
[08:46] <morbid88> Sure. I'll pastebin.
[08:46] <PhilH> ok
[08:46] <xCling> hi. I have this really strange problem with my hard drive partition. I can only access it from root and when I copy some file over to it ( I only have 4% free space left in "/" ) It says "/" is full? Why is "/" full when I copy my files over to my other partiton ?
[08:46] <DanaG> I'm not sure how.  Perhaps look into other things first -- like, IP or MAC conflict.
[08:46] <clearzen> I have mencoder...I was hoping for something with a gui
[08:47] <DanaG> Do you have IP address reservation in your router?
[08:47] <clearzen> Or that is a little faster
[08:47] <lewix> damn
[08:47] <morbid88> PhilH: can you remind me the pastebin url?
[08:47] <morbid88> !pastebin
[08:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:47] <morbid88> haha. got it.
[08:47] <RetLaw> DanaG: the ip is unique, 100% sure, the mac also, checked already in the ipcop-dhcp
[08:47] <DanaG> On my router, unless I add the right option to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[08:47] <DanaG> send host-name "m685"
[08:47] <PhilH> xCling, maybe it's reserved space
[08:47] <jazzrocker> PhilH, that map command for grub worked nicely last night
[08:47] <jazzrocker> thx
[08:47] <DanaG> I don't get an IP
[08:48] <PhilH> jazzrocker, Thank god for that!
[08:48] <psycode> i'll ask again - i want to install ubuntu dapper using the official 6.06 CD they send on mail. i can't find the option for installing ubuntu, only one for "going live". the live get stuck at some point, and so i cannot use it in order to install. i'm sure theres a way to install ubuntu w/o entering the live mode. i'm sure most of you have installed dapper so you can probably help me out here...
[08:48] <[eDu] > xCling: PhilH: not maybe, sure. it's reserved space ;)
[08:48] <PhilH> jazzrocker, when you didn't reappear after the reboot i was scared i'd screwed up your menu.1st :D
[08:48] <DanaG> (mmm, gobbledygook characters in people's sigs)
[08:48] <jazzrocker> PhilH, naw, even if you had i'm capable enough to fix it on my own :)
[08:48] <lophyte> psycode: the CD that's distributed by ShipIt, you need to enter the Live CD and install through that.
[08:48] <PhilH> jazzrocker, good, good
[08:49] <ajcates> hello
[08:49] <xeonmasta> Ubuntu vs open BSD. Who wins?
[08:49] <psycode> lophyte, ahhhh that sux :( that's not a smart move they made...
[08:49] <ajcates> how do you reconfigure X?
[08:49] <DanaG> text mode install is a different disk.
[08:49] <xipietotec> Is there a way I can get more of those ubuntu stickers that came with the CD?
[08:49] <lophyte> psycode: you have to download the Alternative CD ISO for the text-mode install
[08:49] <jazzrocker> xeonmasta, they are completely different OSes designed for completely different things
[08:49] <psycode> lophyte, ok, guess i'll have to do that....
[08:50] <xCling> [eDu]  : I have 100gb free space on it why is it reserv space ?
[08:50] <jazzrocker> xeonmasta, a better question is "Linux vs. BSD who wins"
[08:50] <jazzrocker> xeonmasta, and that's a topic for not this channel
[08:50] <PhilH> psycode, yeah, i thought it was pretty stupid but hey, what can you do
[08:50] <xipietotec> anyone?
[08:50] <PhilH> xCling, in that partition?
[08:50] <jazzrocker> xeonmasta, FreeBSD has the longest reported uptimes as reported by netcraft
[08:50] <xeonmasta> jazzrocker: Ok thx.
[08:50] <PhilH> xCling or on the drive?
[08:50] <xeonmasta> jazzrocker: all i need to know. ,OP
[08:50] <RetLaw> DanaG: the lan (also the ubuntu) is connected to ipcop serving as dhcp. The ipcop is connected to the router only giving an ip to ipcop
[08:50] <ajcates> what is the command to reconfigure X?
[08:51] <DanaG> Hmm.
[08:51] <DanaG> Perhaps conflicting DHCP?
[08:51] <jazzrocker> xeonmasta, i would put FreeBSD on a server and Ubuntu on a desktop
[08:51] <basvg> hmm.... I can only get it to work with the nv driver
[08:51] <basvg> not with the nvidia one
[08:51] <jazzrocker> xeonmasta, i'm sure plenty of people would put Ubuntu on a server too
[08:51] <morbid88> PhilH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23456
[08:51] <basvg> I even followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:51] <morbid88> PhilH: I've tried un-commenting the addtype php lines, but it doesn't seem to help...
[08:51] <RetLaw> danag: different ip-ranges
[08:52] <PhilH> xeonmasta, there's no reason to think that can't get good uptimes out of a Debian/Ubuntu server though
[08:52] <ladydoor> ajcates: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-base
[08:52] <ajcates> thank you ladydoor
[08:52] <xCling> PhilH : I have format : ext3 and its about 100gb free space on my /dev/hdb5 why cant use the free space only as root and when i try to copy some file to /dev/hdb5 my "/" partition getts full, really strange?
[08:52] <ladydoor> ajcates: np. good luck!
[08:52] <morbid88> PhilH: That's from /etc/apache. There's another in /etc/apache2. I think I'm running 1.3
[08:52] <lewix> what's the difference between gksudo and sudo ?
[08:52] <DanaG> Are they both broadcasting on the same switch?
[08:52] <Mecca> G'day everyone, i dunno if im in the right place to ask this but i finally talked a friend into trying Ubuntu he had it installed but wanted to reinstall it for some reason .. now he cant get it to install it seems to hang at 43% .... anyone heard of anything like this ?
[08:53] <ladydoor> lewix: gksudo is a graphikal front-end
[08:53] <ladydoor> lewix: it's useful for starting graphical programs for which you don't want to leave a terminal open
[08:53] <lewix> i guess that's why i had trouble
[08:53] <timonator> what bus would one find an integrated webcam in a laptop on? it seems to be neither in lsusb nor in lspci
[08:53] <ajcates> ladydoor, how do you do it on edgy
[08:53] <PhilH> morbid88, the apt string that was suggested installed apache2, i guess you should get shot of apache 1.3
[08:53] <ajcates> beacuse i dist upgradeing to edgy and really messed up my install
[08:53] <trograin> Is the php on Dapper compiled with Fastcgi ???
[08:54] <lewix> when i used gksudo gedit sources.list it wouldnt work
[08:54] <RetLaw> DanaG: lan(ubuntu)----switch-----ipcop----router
[08:54] <DanaG> aah.
[08:54] <lewix> and when i did sudo it worked
[08:54] <DanaG> Then what was the issue?  I already forgot.
[08:54] <PhilH> xCling, do you only have a single partition?
[08:54] <ladydoor> ajcates: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:54] <RetLaw> DanaG:  As soon ubuntu is started, all other pc's on the lan no longer can resolve names. When a tracert is executed, only ip's are shown. When I restart my router everything is back to normal, tracert also shows names. The ubuntu is pingeable from the lan. I can  reproduce this as much as I want, just a ubuntu-reboot is needed to make it fail again.
[08:55] <sbc> Why do I get "403 Forbidden" when trying to apt-get upgrade ? Is there a problem with security.ubuntu.com ?
[08:55] <ericz> sbc, was just going to ask about the same problem
[08:55] <Obstfliege> quit
[08:55] <Obstfliege> lol
[08:55] <basvg> hmmm, ok, dmesg claims 'unknown symbol boot_cpu_data' where's that come from?
[08:55] <xCling> PhilH: no I got about 3 on one hard drive and one big on my other hard drive so total 4
[08:55] <Skrot> Hi. http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-headers-2.6.15-26_2.6.15-26.47_i386.deb seems to have wrong permissions
[08:55] <Skrot> 403 indeed
[08:55] <timonator> is there a v4l client on the livecd preinstalled?
[08:55] <Skrot> Any devs around?
[08:55] <trograin> Can anyone just answer yedd or no on my question if PHP in Dapper is compiled with FastCGI???
[08:55] <DanaG> Well, then, I don't know what to do.
[08:56] <DanaG> I just have all my PCs under one router.
[08:56] <trograin> Can anyone just answer yess (I men :D )or no on my question if PHP in Dapper is compiled with FastCGI???
[08:56] <morbid88> PhilH: I gotta go. Thanks for trying.
[08:56] <jpc_> hi
[08:56] <RetLaw> DanaG: don't have the problem with any Windows connected to the lan
[08:57] <miked595> anyone get the braodcom 4318 wifi card working with ubuntu?
[08:57] <optimusprime> what's the current version of Java in Dapper
[08:57] <DanaG> Well, one thing odd in Ubuntu is that by default the dhcp client does not send a hostname.
[08:57] <PhilH> xCling
[08:57] <trograin> Can anyone just answer yess or no on my question if PHP in Dapper is compiled with FastCGI???
[08:57] <RetLaw> DanaG: do you know how to stop ipv6, didn't seem a bad idea to me, the router surely isn't ipv6-enabled
[08:58] <DanaG> I don't know that one.
[08:58] <sbc> optimusprime: I have java version "1.5.0_06" with my dapper install. Thats sun java.
[08:58] <offby1> Skrot: I'm hitting that problem too :-(
[08:58] <PhilH> what is the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda like?
[08:58] <ajcates> is there any way to apt-get dist-downgrade?
[08:58] <RetLaw> DanaG: yep, have seen the missing hostname in the ipcop-dhcp
[08:59] <trograin> php compiled with fastcgi in daper or not????
[08:59] <timonator> what program does ubuntu have for accessing a v4l(2) webcam?
[08:59] <jazzrocker> trograin, we heard you the first time please don't repeat
[08:59] <ladydoor> !patience
[08:59] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:59] <ajcates> trograin: i don't think php really complies
[08:59] <PhilH> xCling, the parameter  is a lowercase L incase you're having trouble reading it
[08:59] <ladydoor> !attitude
[08:59] <ajcates> it complies at runtime
[08:59] <jazzrocker> trograin, if no one knows chill
[08:59] <ladydoor> trograin: try google
[08:59] <DanaG> The way to fix that is in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:00] <miked595> you try php -v ?
[09:00] <jazzrocker> ajcates, he means the actual PHP binary build, not the diff between interpreted and compiled languages
[09:00] <iceman24k> finaly got that stupid gnome / Ubuntu changed :)
[09:00] <ajcates> oph
[09:00] <trograin> tanks :)
[09:00] <jazzrocker> trograin, phpinfo() should tell you
[09:00] <PhilH> iceman24k, cool, how?
[09:00] <Skrot> offby1: Sure hope they fix it soon..
[09:00] <PhilH> xCling, did you get the fdisk message?
[09:00] <RetLaw> DanaG: was the "dhclient.conf" a reply for me ?
[09:01] <vcolombo> Hey, anyone here who might be able to help with troubleshooting networkmanager?
[09:01] <offby1> Skrot: a-yup
[09:01] <ketsugi> Will we be getting Firefox 1.5.0.7 in backports?
[09:01] <Mecca> anyone know of a repo that has sun java ?
[09:01] <DanaG> Yeah, for the dhcp hostname.
[09:01] <kenvey> RetLaw: same here everytime I start ubuntu all pc's are losing there connection ... but I tought it is because I'm booting from the live CD?
[09:01] <Skrot> Please chmod -R 755 * the server already :P
[09:01] <jazzrocker> !java > Mecca
[09:01] <shledon> hey guys i just started trying to use ubuntu
[09:01] <miked595> anyone get the braodcom 4318 wifi card working with ubuntu?
[09:01] <shledon> and i have a question for anyone who can help me
[09:01] <vcolombo> oh wait, I see a dhclient.conf question
[09:01] <xCling> PhilH yes. I send it on the private
[09:02] <vcolombo> same problem I'm having perhaps?
[09:02] <fingaz> anybody having problems with the current version of gaim 1.5.1cvs
[09:02] <RetLaw> DanaG: ok thanks, i'll ask to see if someone knows how to stop ipv6-lookup. Thanks for helping !
[09:02] <bobbyd> shledon, hi, just ask
[09:02] <k0rd> what does it mean when a "boot file cannot be found"
[09:02] <regeya> !ask
[09:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:02] <k0rd> i ran install and it said it was complete
[09:02] <k0rd> and to restart
[09:02] <shledon> ok, well i have two hard drives in my computer and on my sendondary hard drive i have a couple different partitions on there
[09:02] <iturk> hi there in my ubuntu which application are nice to configure sound levels. In firefox when i access youtube i always have the sound really down !!
[09:02] <shledon> and when i went to install ubuntu (when it asks you to create the partition)
[09:02] <Mecca> Thank You Jazzrocker
[09:02] <shledon> i chose my bigger partition to take the space from
[09:03] <shledon> and it didnt work for some odd reason
[09:03] <shledon> but then i tried to boot back into windows
[09:03] <PhilH> xCling, private messages seem to be broken at the moment, neither msg nor query work for me
[09:03] <shledon> that partition was gone
[09:03] <JackONeill> hey, the update-manager is trying to get some new linux header files from the ubuntu server but it's getting 403... other updates downloaded fine tho - is there problems with the server?
[09:03] <shledon> and i went to drive management
[09:03] <Kronoz> iirc you can't shrink/increase an ntfs more than 50gb
[09:03] <ajcates> shledon, looks like your forced to partion the entire hard drive off to ubuntu
[09:03] <ajcates> no more windows for you!!
[09:04] <shledon> ajcates i have windows
[09:04] <ajcates> oh
[09:04] <ajcates> shux
[09:04] <shledon> ajcates its the second hardrive that doesnt work
[09:04] <RetLaw> Someone knows how I can switch-off/stop the ipv6 lookup in ubuntu ?
[09:04] <ajcates> i was hoping you screwed up your windows install
[09:04] <xCling> PhilH ok
[09:04] <ajcates> darn
[09:04] <PhilH> xCling, join #sfd-wingedmonkeys
[09:04] <shledon> ajcates but when i went to manage the drive the file type for it is linux swap
[09:04] <synaptiv> anyone having problem installing the kernel update?
[09:04] <Skrot> JackONeill: There is something bugged on the security.* server.. lets hope the devs know, cause it's a real easy problem to fix..
[09:04] <shledon> ajcates not ntfs
[09:04] <miked595> shledon, so where did ubuntu get installed?
[09:04] <JackONeill> synaptiv, yup
[09:04] <k0rd> I installed ubuntu, restarted and it tells me "No Boot file, please insert boot disk"
[09:04] <k0rd> any ideas
[09:04] <shledon> it didnt
[09:04] <DanaG> Partition table errors?
[09:04] <JackONeill> ok Skrot
[09:04] <k0rd> i made a /boot
[09:05] <bobbyd> is it possible to get a 2.16 kernel through apt-get for dapper?
[09:05] <synaptiv> i get a 403 forbidden error it seems
[09:05] <DanaG> Hmm, perhaps TestDisk on Ultimate Boot CD could fix it.
[09:05] <shledon> miked595 it didnt
[09:05] <offby1> synaptiv: you, me, and Skrot too
[09:05] <JackONeill> synacktion, your not the only one
[09:05] <synaptiv> wierd
[09:05] <offby1> it's the reason I'm here
[09:05] <jazzrocker> bobbyd, ubuntu comes with 2.6.15, what do you mean?
[09:05] <miked595> shledon,  what partitions are on the second drive
[09:05] <offby1> dunno whom to contact though
[09:05] <jazzrocker> offby1, who, not whom
[09:05] <synaptiv> ew i need a vhost
[09:06] <kibbled_bit1> hi all
[09:06] <shledon> miked595 there were 3 (1 for my media, one for my programs backup, and another just empty incase)
[09:06] <synaptiv> lol
[09:06] <kibbled_bit1> anyone struggling with the new kernel upgrade?
[09:06] <DanaG> Forbidden -- yup.
[09:06] <offby1> jazzrocker: I beg to differ :-)
[09:06] <shledon> miked595 now theres only the one for the programs packup
[09:06] <bobbyd> jazzrocker, doh! 2.6.16 I meant
[09:06] <synaptiv> kibbled_bit1:  we all seem to be
[09:06] <kibbled_bit1> heh
[09:06] <PhilH> kibbled_bit1, looks like everyone
[09:06] <kibbled_bit1> are we just still waiting for the new packages to hit the mirrors?
[09:06] <Skrot> Are there any devs/packagers on the channel, with write access to the servers? :)
[09:06] <synaptiv> i think they screwed up the permissions on the webserver
[09:06] <miked595> sounds like it hosed the partition
[09:06] <jazzrocker> bobbyd, uhhh, you can always download a vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[09:06] <miked595> shledon, sounds like it hosed the partition
[09:06] <jazzrocker> bobbyd, it won't have the Ubuntu patches though
[09:06] <shledon> miked595 is there anyway to fix it or change it back from linux swap to ntfs
[09:07] <Igg-man> Does anyone know what "Failed to verify incoming ticket!" error messages could be caused by in samba logs?
[09:07] <DanaG> What are the ubuntu patches anyway?
[09:07] <jazzrocker> bobbyd, why do you need .16 ?
[09:07] <DanaG> I want vesfb-tng, but even Edgy doesn't have it.
[09:07] <synaptiv> not sure what the updates are but i know theres a security update
[09:07] <bobbyd> jazzrocker, for my dvb-t card...
[09:07] <k0rd> any idea why the boot file did not install
[09:07] <RetLaw> Someone knows how I can switch-off/stop the ipv6 lookup in ubuntu ?
[09:07] <JackONeill> !uboot
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <synaptiv> it updated everything but the kernel
[09:07] <jazzrocker> bobbyd, and you can't recompile .15 instead?
[09:08] <bobbyd> jazzrocker, not if I can just get it from apt :)
[09:08] <synaptiv> RetLaw:  you can disable it in network preferences
[09:08] <pianoboy3333> What's with the linux kernel headers? I can't install them?
[09:08] <vcolombo> Well, I'm going to throw this out there and see if anyone has a suggestion, sorry if it's the same question I caught the tail end of as I came in... Trying to get NetworkManager working and I'm pretty close. It's recognizing my interfaces, etc. However, when I try to join a network (via wireless) it thinks for a while and fails. Logs say "dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0 for sub
[09:08] <vcolombo> -path wlan0.dbus.get.reason"
[09:08] <ajcates> in irssi how do you like swicht btween "tabs"
[09:09] <RetLaw> synaptiv: any command-line ? it's a server-install without gui
[09:09] <DanaG> alt-number
[09:09] <miked595> shledon, i know of know way to fix it maybe a data recovery tool... the data should physically be on the hard drive but the table that keeps track of everything has been wiped out and is now a swap partition. So you can't read the data. If you just want to create an NTFS partition i'd boot with the live cd and remove that swap partitio and then boot to windows to create the nfts partition
[09:09] <DanaG> for irssi
[09:09] <synaptiv> ah
[09:09] <synaptiv> been awhile but
[09:09] <k0rd> I installed Ubuntu, making a /boot, /swap and a /root, and I restart and it tells me 'no boot file found, please insert boot disk'
[09:09] <k0rd> any ideas as to why this is happening?
[09:09] <ajcates> yea
[09:09] <DanaG> miked595: try Ultimate Boot CD's TestDisk.
[09:09] <wiking> noone of games play sound, what's up?
[09:09] <DanaG> k0rd: Make sure Grub is in the MBR
[09:10] <DanaG> !grub-install
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <DanaG> !grub
[09:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:10] <synaptiv> your motherboard might not like ubuntu k0rd
[09:10] <clusty> was wondering if any of you wrote a script to download a whole site
[09:10] <kibbled_bit1> anyone know if the updates for the restricted modules have been updated yet?!?
[09:10] <k0rd> ty
[09:10] <synaptiv> oh wait
[09:10] <shledon> miked595 but when i create the ntfs partition will it not format itself???
[09:10] <miked595> DanaG, you should give that to shledon
[09:11] <DanaG> aah.
[09:11] <miked595> shledon, you still have two other nfts paritions right?
[09:11] <DanaG> shledon: Try Ultimate Boot CD's TestDisk
[09:11] <DanaG> It can often recover a broken partition table
[09:11] <DanaG> as long as the partition's data is still there.
[09:12] <k0rd> can you access windows folders
[09:12] <shledon> miked595 i dont think so, but its possible, after the first install didnt work i triedd the other partition that had nothing on it, and when that didnt work i deleted the partition and now its just unallocated space so i have two partitions and some unallocated space
[09:12] <k0rd> on linux?
[09:12] <orbin> kibbled_bit1: updated updates? :-/
[09:12] <k0rd> like import mp3's to the rhythm box?
[09:12] <miked595> shledon, doesn't hurt to try the util DanaG is talking bout
[09:12] <shledon> DanaG where can i get ther
[09:12] <shledon> DanaG that*
[09:12] <johnga1t> i have an error that libstdc++-lib6.1-2.so3 can't be loaded. but it exists in /usr/lib. ideas?
[09:12] <DanaG> shledon: google Ultimate Boot CD.
[09:13] <caleb> is there anyway to get grub and install windows after you've installed ubuntu?
[09:13] <DanaG> It's ironic:  I rolled back to Dapper (was on Edgy) to fix the "Xgl crashes upon switch to TTY" issue, and now Dapper is having that issue too.
[09:13] <RetLaw> synaptiv: any command-line ? it's a server-install without gui
[09:13] <mcd> when i am adding channels to automatically join on a network in xchat. if there is a channel with a key how do i add the key?
[09:13] <synaptiv> hm
[09:13] <ajcates_> DanaG how did you rool back?
[09:13] <synaptiv> trying to remember its been a few yrs
[09:13] <orbin> johnga1t: what are you doing?
[09:13] <DanaG> I had made a backup beforehand.
[09:13] <ajcates_> grrr
[09:13] <ajcates_> i wish i was smart
[09:13] <johnga1t> orbin: trying to run a piece of software for a CAD program.
[09:14] <synaptiv> btw xgl/compviz seriously owns
[09:14] <synaptiv> i wanna lick my monitor
[09:14] <JackONeill> !usplash
[09:14] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:14] <johnga1t> orbin: it was originally an rpm ... i converted it to a deb using alien and installed. seemed fine.
[09:14] <DBO> just so you guys know, compiz/xgl is handled in #ubuntu-xgl, k guys =)
[09:14] <synaptiv> RetLaw: did you try manpages?
[09:15] <miked595> shledon, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[09:15] <RetLaw> synaptiv: no idea what that is
[09:15] <Xenodamus> hello
[09:15] <synaptiv> goto the console type man ipv6
[09:15] <miked595> anyone get the braodcom 4318 wifi card working with ubuntu?
[09:15] <k0rd> ok im in the terminal
[09:15] <synaptiv> i dont know if they have manpages for it though
[09:15] <ajcates_> so any one want to help me with my dependices problems?
[09:15] <k0rd> i did the 'grub-install' command
[09:15] <k0rd> it just brings up a menu
[09:16] <k0rd> is apt involved for this?
[09:16] <k0rd> or?
[09:16] <ajcates_> firefox wont upgrade
[09:16] <shledon> miked595 thank you
[09:16] <shledon> DanaG thank you
[09:16] <miked595> shledon, np
[09:16] <johnga1t> orbin: any idea why it wouldn't be able to load the shared library even though the file is there?
[09:16] <Myoldryn> Hi
[09:17] <k0rd> how do I get 'grub' running, the link that one of you guys gave me just tells me about how to increase timeouts
[09:17] <k0rd> etc.
[09:17] <synaptiv> btw anyone here do webdesign and if so which html editor is best
[09:17] <Xenodamus> Can anyone help me with getting fglrx work with 1280x960@100 mode?
[09:17] <orbin> Johan666: no, sorry.  perhaps it'd be better to find a dapper deb if possible rather than the rpm?
[09:17] <THX-1138> k0rd - this linkj !grub   ??
[09:17] <webwolf_27> synaptiv, I prefer bluefish
[09:17] <synaptiv> Xenodamus: what vidcard is it
[09:17] <THX-1138> !grub
[09:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:18] <synaptiv> i think ive heard of bluefish
[09:18] <synaptiv> text or gui based
[09:18] <ajcates_> no firefox-gnome-surport wont upgrade beacuse it wants firefox 2, but firefox 1.5 is installed
[09:18] <webwolf_27> synaptiv, works great, also supports php and C
[09:18] <ajcates_> so any one have a .deb of firefox 2?
[09:18] <Xenodamus> synaptiv, It's a X850.  The fglrx is working properly with hardware accel, however it blocks my 1289x960 resolution.
[09:18] <synaptiv> oh nice
[09:19] <webwolf_27> synaptiv, GUI, but not wysiwyg
[09:19] <ajcates_> beacuse google isn't helping me find one
[09:19] <synaptiv> Xenodamus:  did you add 1280x1024 to the xorg.conf?
[09:19] <DanaG> 1280x960 FTW
[09:19] <shledon> DanaG one more question, after i boot from the cd, do you have a certain direction for me to go, i dont really know what im doing with unfamiliar programs, and i didnt know if you knew how to do what im trying to do?
[09:19] <Therac-25> Xenodamus - would using a lower refresh rate allow you to use that resolution?
[09:19] <synaptiv> i prefer non wysiwig so thats good
[09:19] <larvanto> 'lo
[09:19] <DanaG> except for 1360x1024
[09:19] <Nimwei> Is there a file sharing program besides Samba? I can't get it to work. I keep getting a "username/password" box when I type in the share path on my other PC and no combination works. Any ideas?
[09:20] <DanaG> Filesystem tools -- TestDisk
[09:20] <synaptiv> did you reboot xserver?
[09:20] <larvanto> what's up with security.ubuntu.com?
[09:20] <Xenodamus> synaptiv, nope.  I have a 4:3 CRT monitor.  The monitor is capable of handling that resolution at 100Hz.  Done it in windows and non-fglrx drivers.
[09:20] <larvanto> says 403 forbidden on a kernel update
[09:20] <k0rd> i put in "find grub/boot/stage1"
[09:20] <cpk2> Nimwei: did you use swat or set up the samba config yourself?
[09:20] <k0rd> it gave me error 15
[09:20] <webwolf_27> synaptiv, then bluefish is the way to go, or if you use kde maybe quanta
[09:20] <k0rd> file not found
[09:20] <`ben> larvanto: 403'd? same here.
[09:20] <larvanto> yep
[09:20] <DanaG> grub-install takes /dev/sda and sucgh
[09:20] <synaptiv> i use gnome
[09:20] <Nimwei> cpk2 - I just "apt-get install samba" and went from there.
[09:21] <Nimwei> cpk2: At that point, I right clicked the folder and typed in the share name.
[09:21] <offby1> I've sent email to security@ubuntu.com about the 403 Forbidden errors
[09:21] <webwolf_27> synaptiv, bluefish, unless you want a console based editor
[09:21] <k0rd> Dana, any idea of why when I tried to install from live cd, it tells me file not fond
[09:21] <synaptiv> Xenodamus: i had that problem and for some reason it gave me 1280x1024 out of the blue
[09:21] <k0rd> ?
[09:21] <k0rd> install grub that is
[09:21] <larvanto> OK, good
[09:21] <cpk2> Nimwei: you need to configure samba on the linux box
[09:21] <synaptiv> yea i think im going to go with bluefish
[09:22] <cpk2> Nimwei: one second I should have a good link floating around
[09:22] <Nimwei> cpk2 - Ok, do I just do a dpkg --reconfigure samba ?
[09:22] <cpk2> Nimwei: no, there is a samba.conf
[09:22] <xipietotec> <---just read about Tivo, and the new additions to GPLv3> Damn that pisses me off
[09:22] <Xenodamus> synpativ, it's mostly due to fglrx locking nonstandard resolutions, even though 1280x960 is standard for CRTs
[09:22] <Nimwei> cpk2 - Ok, just a second.
[09:22] <webwolf_27> synaptiv, can't hurt, you can of course also use any text editor
[09:22] <shledon> DanaG any ideas??
[09:22] <grimx> how do i add allegro 4.2.0 to MinGWStudio??
[09:23] <synaptiv> Xenodamus: try reinstalling the gpu drivers i think thats wht i did
[09:23] <grimx> what
[09:23] <ajcates_> if i want dpkg to force install a package what is the command?
[09:23] <Tonren> hey guys, what is Enterprise Volume Management?
[09:23] <cpk2> Nimwei: if you follow this guys instructions you should get the samba working quite easily http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[09:24] <synaptiv> after i reisnstalled the vid drivers all of a sudden i got the nvidia startup screen too
[09:24] <Nimwei> cpk2 - I will. thanks.
[09:24] <Xenodamus> synpativ, I doubt that it'll work.  it's the programmers that messed up
[09:24] <synaptiv> hm
[09:24] <DanaG> In Ultimate Boot CD, the best thing is to just look around.
[09:24] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, I resemble that statement
[09:24] <DanaG> Just don't do anything permanent until you're sure.
[09:25] <k0rd> how do i translate my
[09:25] <grimx> how do i get allegro-4.2.0 to work in MinGWStudio??
[09:25] <ajcates_> what is the syntext to force install a packge with dpkg?
[09:25] <k0rd> partition into my
[09:25] <k0rd> into grub*
[09:25] <tolstoy> Are other people having trouble downloading the kernel security update?  Error 403?
[09:25] <Therac-25> << - Would someone named Therac-25 be offende by that statement about programmers?
[09:25] <DBO> ajcates, depends on what you need to force
[09:25] <larvanto> tolstoy: yes
[09:25] <`ben> tolstoy: ya
[09:25] <Xenodamus> webwolf_27, resemble?  you has the same problem?
[09:25] <tolstoy> larvanto: okay, cool.
[09:25] <`ben> someone should put that in the topic
[09:25] <DanaG> Grub-install takes the drive as a parameter, not the partition.
[09:25] <ajcates_> i need to force a .deb package
[09:25] <pitti> ATTENTION:
[09:25] <ajcates_> its firefox
[09:25] <DBO> ajcates_, but dpkg -i --force-all will force it in at all costs, even if it screws up EVERYTHING
[09:25] <tolstoy> `ben: thanks.  just moved my computer to a new network, so wasn't sure.
[09:26] <DanaG> But drive partitions of format (hd0,1)
[09:26] <pitti> CURRENT KERNEL SECURITY UPDATE IS BLOCKED, UPDATE IS WORKED ON, SHOULD BE FIXED EVERY MINUTE
[09:26] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, no I'm a programmer. There is always a bug somewhere
[09:26] <ajcates_> i don't care
[09:26] <pitti> (sorry for shouting)
[09:26] <ajcates_> i have already screwed up a bunch
[09:26] <larvanto> pitti: np, thanks for telling
[09:26] <ajcates_> plus anyways i am lreaning
[09:26] <DanaG> are numbered starting at 0, I believe.
[09:26] <DanaG> Or is it 1?
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> k0rd: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[09:26] <offby1> pitti: thanks!
[09:26] <Therac-25> :(){ :|:& };:
[09:26] <offby1> pitti: and we say "any minute", not "every minute" :-)
[09:27] <jrib> no one type what Therac-25 wrote...
[09:27] <pitti> offby1: oh, right, sorry
[09:27] <Xenodamus> webwolf_27, it's not a bug.  The ATI programmers simply locked the resolutions that the driver accepts, even if the vBIOS says the monitor supports it.
[09:27] <jrib> Therac-25: don't do that here
[09:27] <Therac-25> very true -
[09:27] <larvanto> ..unless it really is fixed again every minute :)
[09:27] <linuxd00d> i need uclibc where can i get it from
[09:27] <offby1> pitti: I figured you weren't a native English speaker.
[09:27] <Therac-25> thought ubuntu has thread limits - no harm unless you are root.
[09:27] <lewix> when i upgraded ubuntu
[09:27] <shledon> DanaG thank you again
[09:27] <DanaG> Try a modeline generator for 1280x960.
[09:27] <lewix> do i need to restart my comp ?
[09:27] <DanaG> That UBCD is quite a lifesaver.
[09:27] <jrib> Therac-25: either way, no point in putting that here
[09:28] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, on that you have to complain to ATI. They do not open thier sources so noone can leagally change that
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG: Agreed
[09:28] <DanaG> It's saved me twice -- both times were when Windows Setup combined my (at the time) 6 partitions into one.
[09:28] <DanaG> Now I changed that drive to have just 3.
[09:28] <RetLaw> synaptiv: following http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/systemcheck-kernel.html, it should be possible to disable ipv6 with alias net-pf-10 off   # disable automatically load of IPv6 module on demand in the configuration file of the kernel module loader (normally /etc/modules.conf or /etc/conf.modules)..... but where is this one in ubuntu ?
[09:28] <linuxd00d> i need uclibc where can i get it from
[09:28] <Xenodamus> webwolf_27, hopefully AMD can change that.  There's no reason not to release their drivers into open source.
[09:29] <iceman24k> Ok, anyone got a URL on how to replace the Ubuntu brown Login, and customize it.
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG: The SGR is also a good tool when all else fails
[09:29] <synaptiv> should be in the same place
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[09:29] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:29] <DanaG> Well, is it an option to put the thing on a USB disk?
[09:29] <synaptiv> you might have to make the file actually
[09:29] <linuxd00d> !uclibc
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uclibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <Xenodamus> DanaG, should I check NoDDC on as well?
[09:29] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, thats also my view, but it's one that many developers do not share
[09:29] <DanaG> My notebook has no floppy, but it does boot from anything USB.
[09:30] <webwolf_27> DanaG, you can always get u USB-floppy
[09:30] <synaptiv> webwolf_27: turns out i had bluefish...lol
[09:30] <fjellrev1> how do I find out my ip number ?
[09:30] <pantaloon> iceman24k, system->administration->login window?
[09:30] <DanaG> Well, I have a USB-key (Cruzer Micro) -- I'd just need to put it on it.
[09:30] <jrib> fjellrev1: www.whatismyip.org or use ifconfig
[09:30] <synaptiv> fjellrev1: goto console type ifconfig
[09:30] <Neo8750> fjellrev1: ifconfig
[09:30] <jmhodges> hey, i installed the gstreamer ugly and so forth.. but i cant even get mpeg1 files to load!
[09:30] <fjellrev1> thanks :)
[09:30] <jmhodges> i'm very confused
[09:30] <wiking> Where I can find (for example) game "torcs" data???
[09:31] <Xenodamus> webwolf_27, but for hardware drivers?  It doesn't make sense.  ATI is shooting itself in the foot but restricting their customers only to windoze users.
[09:31] <_Zambezi> Is there an application I can install instead av OpenOffice? I just need Excel.
[09:31] <jrib> !info torcs-data
[09:31] <ubotu> torcs-data: base data files for TORCS game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1 (dapper), package size 16388 kB, installed size 26380 kB
[09:31] <webwolf_27> synaptiv, It's a great editor, even supports projects so entire web projects can be easilly mastered with it
[09:31] <jrib> wiking: in universe repository
[09:31] <jrib> !universe > wiking
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG: There is the persistent folder where you can run the livecd and keep your changes and programs that you install on the usb stick
[09:31] <jmhodges> anyone know why my mpeg1 files would not play?
[09:31] <DanaG> Modeline generator:  http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[09:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:31] <synaptiv> yea i see, im screwing with it now
[09:31] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, unfortuanatly that is a trent many hardware producers follow
[09:32] <iceman24k> wheres that "brown" loading picture at ?
[09:32] <DanaG> Know your monitor's scan range.
[09:32] <caleb> i am trying to get grub to always show up but it wont let me save the changes to menu.lst
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !splash
[09:32] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[09:32] <synaptiv> brb
[09:32] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, many webdesigners also seem to prefer windows users. As you can see at http://www.burgerking.de
[09:33] <DanaG> For example, my p95f+ CRT I was using -- range was 30-110, 50-160
[09:33] <lewix> how can i use irc on telnet by using a proxy
[09:33] <miked595> I'm trying to get my broadcom 4318 wifi card working with ubuntu?
[09:33] <jbroome> telnet is the devil
[09:33] <lewix> ?
[09:33] <lewix> why
[09:33] <Neo8750> ssh!
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> caleb: How were you making the changes?
[09:33] <lewix> well what's the difference between ssh and telnet
[09:33] <caleb> by opening the file it tells me to on the ubuntu site
[09:33] <Neo8750> lewix: why would you telnet to irc?
[09:34] <Tonren> lewix: They are two different ways of doing similar things
[09:34] <miked595> lewix, ssh is enrypted and telnet is not
[09:34] <Tonren> lewix: SSH is pretty much superior in every possible way, ever
[09:34] <k0rd> how do you burn an .iso
[09:34] <k0rd> on linux?
[09:34] <lewix> so that i dont have to install irc everywhere i go
[09:34] <caleb> then just changing it
[09:34] <miked595> lewix, main differences
[09:34] <Tonren> k0rd: right-click on it in Nautilus
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> caleb: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst   but first please make a backup by using the command sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup
[09:34] <lewix> thanks
[09:34] <webwolf_27> miked595, if I remember right you need ndiswrapper and the windows driver ( or kernel 2.6.17 )
[09:34] <caleb> huh?
[09:34] <Neo8750> k0rd: dd if=isofile of=/dev/yourburner here
[09:34] <pantaloon> i've got a question, how do i stop x/gnome from restarting every time i accidentally hit shift-backspace?
[09:34] <miked595> webwolf_27, i've tried the fwcutter and ndiswrapper
[09:35] <k0rd> it just gives me a >
[09:35] <caleb> where do i put all those commands into?
[09:35] <SEJeff> pantaloon: you use compiz / Xgl don't you
[09:35] <k0rd> caleb, the terminal
[09:35] <Xenodamus> no flash 8 for linux users?
[09:35] <k0rd> Applications>Accesories>terimnal
[09:35] <k0rd> terminal*
[09:35] <pantaloon> SEJeff, yeah, should i ask in #ubuntu-xgl?
[09:35] <fjellrev1> when I try to connect to remote desktop,it seems to work okay,but it stops shortly after starting...
[09:35] <lewix> miked595, Tonren  Neo8750 : so your advise is to use ssh, but there's no ssh in all machines, we have to install it, right?
[09:35] <SEJeff> pantaloon: this is a way known issue since compiz first came out. Yes
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> caleb: Go to a terminal....   sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup
[09:35] <Tonren> lewix: if they're GNU/Linux, they come with ssh
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> caleb: Go to a terminal....   gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:36] <offby1> tolstoy: yes, lots of us; pitti says that the security guys are on it
[09:36] <miked595> lewix, ya you can get putty for windows for free
[09:36] <offby1> putty++ !
[09:36] <SEJeff> pantaloon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140658
[09:36] <k0rd> Neo, it just leaves me with a >
[09:36] <k0rd> ?
[09:36] <caleb> okay
[09:36] <webwolf_27> miked595, ok for the record. I have never used ndiswrapper, so help from me will be minimal. But you should also need the .inf file from the driver cd/disk
[09:36] <ninjakttty> hey could someone take a look at my xorg.conf to help me set up my dualscreen, my xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23458
[09:37] <caleb> how do i know it was a success?
[09:37] <pantaloon> thanks SEJeff
[09:37] <Neo8750> k0rd: what cmmand you typed?
[09:37] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, not till 2007
[09:37] <lewix>  Tonren , my main point here is to be able to use telnet so that i dont have to download stuff
[09:37] <lewix> irc* sorry
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> k0rd: Right click and send to the burner.. is another way
[09:37] <SEJeff> miked595: The ndis-gtk package will make using ndiswrapper a bit less painful if you are new to the commandline
[09:37] <Xenodamus> webwolf_27, why 2007?
[09:37] <miked595> lewix, I use this as well it's a little more advanced then putty but has more bloat http://ftp.ssh.com/pub/ssh/
[09:37] <SEJeff> pantaloon: No problem, that drove me crazy at first!
[09:37] <k0rd> neo dd if=sgd_0.9478.iso of=/dev/E:\
[09:37] <lewix> but i need to pass through a proxy
[09:37] <lewix> tough
[09:38] <webwolf_27> Xenodamus, don't ask me I don't work for adobe
[09:38] <Nimwei> cpk2: Thanks a lot for the walkthrough. I got it.
[09:38] <lewix> miked595, you guys dont understand me :)
[09:38] <Neo8750> k0rd: thats why
[09:38] <SEJeff> lewix: This involves setting up a tunnel from your machine behind the proxy to a home machine with ssh server running. It's not super hard, but takes some time to set up at first.
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> k0rd: that wont work...
[09:38] <miked595> SEJeff, i beleive i have the driver installed but it doesn't seem to work
[09:38] <Neo8750> the e:\ isn't right
[09:39] <k0rd> what would it be then?
[09:39] <iceman24k> where the heck is the splas image at ?
[09:39] <k0rd> very new to *nix
[09:39] <caleb> okay thanks it worked
[09:39] <Neo8750> k0rd: do you know what your burner is set as aka: secondary master
[09:39] <k0rd> no clue
[09:39] <Neo8750> do you have 1 or 2 cdroms?
[09:39] <lewix> sejeff: so there's no possible other way with irc
[09:39] <k0rd> 2
[09:39] <orbin> er, kernel update blocked?  i just updated via the notifier?
[09:40] <SEJeff> lewix: If you are behind a proxy, set up a tunnel
[09:40] <cpk2> Nimwei: good to hear
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: I answered that 8 minutes ago..
[09:40] <Neo8750> well its either /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd mostlikly
[09:40] <miked595> lewix, you are tying to get through a proxy to use IRC. if your proxy blocks irc then you can tunnel to a machine that can
[09:40] <SEJeff> lewix: That is the only way unless you have superpowers and can defy the laws of tcp/ip :)
[09:40] <iceman24k> wheres the Splash image at, the "Brown" rectange, i cant view the image ?
[09:40] <dan_kent> kord: try installing and using k3b
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !splash > iceman24k
[09:40] <k0rd> installing what?
[09:40] <miked595> lewix, can your RDP or VNC?
[09:40] <ladydoor_> SEJeff: worst superpower *ever*. Except for that guy from the fantastic 4
[09:40] <js_> does ubuntu use multiarch?
[09:41] <dan_kent> like nero, but for linux
[09:41] <lewix> SEJeff, miked595 : im using a proxy right now to use irc. ALl I want is be able to set up telnet using the same proxy to connect on irc
[09:41] <SEJeff> ladydoor_: No, melting man from that adult swim cartoon was the worst in my opinion.
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> k0rd:  dd if=sgd_0.9478.iso of=/dev/cdrom1   should do it
[09:41] <miked595> one what os? and why telnet/
[09:41] <ladydoor_> SEJeff: i never saw that. i just know it would suck to be trapped as a freaky rock-monster
[09:41] <Neo8750> dan_kent: is that kde reliant??
[09:41] <free-zombie> is ubuntu 6.06.1 server + ubuntu-desktop the same as an ubuntu desktop install or does it contain extra daemons ?
[09:41] <BlueEagle> !info bridge-utils
[09:41] <ubotu> bridge-utils: Utilities for configuring the Linux ethernet bridge. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1build1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB
[09:42] <SEJeff> lewix: Well your options are a) set up a tunnel, b) use cgi:irc, or c) dont' use irc at work
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> k0rd: Right click the iso and burn is easier
[09:42] <kibbled_bit1> anybody else waiting for FGLRX update?
[09:42] <miked595> lewix, on what os and why telnet
[09:42] <Neo8750> Jack_Sparrow: he has 2 cdrom drives so it might be cdrom2
[09:42] <ph8> free-zombie: they share packages
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Neo8750: SHould be 0 and 1... but I may be wrong
[09:42] <SEJeff> lewix: I use cgi:irc sometimes and its not too bad when behind a proxy and in a hurry
[09:42] <lewix> telnet coz most machines use windows
[09:42] <ninjakttty> is there a way to restart X without rebooting?
[09:42] <Neo8750> no your right
[09:42] <dan_kent> kord: no just a few libaries and things, nothing to much - or right click the iso and choose 'write to cd'
[09:42] <jrib> ninjakttty: ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:43] <ph8> ninjakttty: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:43] <TiG4> ***-- If I have a service that I want started when the computer is turned on (not logged in just turned on) how would I go about doing that --***
[09:43] <Neo8750> forgot gotta start from 0 hehe
[09:43] <lewix> SEJeff, can you give me a link
[09:43] <webwolf_27> ninjakttty, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:43] <k0rd> my cd rom wont open
[09:43] <k0rd> :\
[09:43] <lewix> SEJeff, and how can i set up a tunnel
[09:43] <ninjakttty> sweet thanks
[09:43] <Neo8750> what i get for eing stoned
[09:43] <lewix> thanks
[09:43] <ajcates2> :-)
[09:43] <SEJeff> lewix: http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/ or you might google for intitle:CGI:IRC to find some already installed versions you might be able to use and then just /j #channelname to get on
[09:43] <eri--> guys how can i force a package to install; streamtuner doesnt install cause of a broken lib and i dont really care
[09:43] <eri--> ?!
[09:43] <ph8> TiG4: are you comfortable with the command line?
[09:43] <TiG4> ph8 Yes
[09:43] <ph8> i'm just trying to remember the name of the binary
[09:44] <miked595> lewix, might want to have a usb stick with your utils and you can take it with you
[09:44] <SEJeff> eri--: well a broken lib probably means it won't work
[09:44] <TiG4> **also I get this error every time i install something in synaptic---***
[09:44] <TiG4> E: unreal-leaf: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Neo8750: np channel becomes a blur to me at times..
[09:44] <ladydoor_> does anybody know off the top of their head(s) what the Tex/LaTeX command(s) would be to get 1-inch margins all around and get rid of all the space for margin notes?
[09:44] <freesun> hello ppl
[09:44] <SEJeff> lewix: if you have your own domain, cgi:irc would probably be the easiest way
[09:44] <lewix> SEJeff, do you ? :)
[09:44] <TiG4> ph8: think of it yet?
[09:44] <orbin> eri--: ST from the repos?
[09:44] <freesun> can anyone tell me where can I find info about laptop port replicators, if certain model works under linux ubuntu?
[09:45] <nattfodd> hi, funny thing: while trying to install ubuntu 0.6, partitioning destroyed ntfs partition instead of just resizing it
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: Have you changed your sources list manually or with a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu?
[09:45] <SEJeff> lewix: http://www.digitalprognosis.com ... not updated since 04 but you can't use it
[09:45] <lewix> SEJeff, do you have your own domain ? :)
[09:45] <nattfodd> any idea of what could have caused that and how to avoid it next time?
[09:45] <iceman24k> Never mine i'll just disable splash :)
[09:45] <miked595> lewix, can you use remote desktop or vnc?
[09:45] <ph8> gah
[09:45] <eri--> orbin, dont no i just used apt-get install stremtuner since i am more of a *BSD user than linux one ?!
[09:45] <ph8> i've gone totally blank
[09:45] <TiG4> Jack_Sparrow, Yes, but nothing to break it
[09:45] <lewix> SEJeff, and how can i set up a tunnel
[09:45] <ph8> it's like sysv
[09:45] <ph8> or initrd
[09:45] <ph8> or something
[09:45] <lewix> miked595, nope
[09:45] <SEJeff> lewix: google ssh tunnel. I need to go
[09:45] <ph8> try apt-get'ing sysv-rc-conf
[09:45] <lamenewbie> hi all
[09:45] <ph8> it's not the built-in way to do it but it will do it :)
[09:45] <nattfodd> ladydoor: it's all in lshort.pdf
[09:45] <orbin> eri--: yes. apt-get install will grab it from the ubuntu repository
[09:45] <lewix> iight, thanks
[09:46] <eri--> orbin, so do i have any other chance?!
[09:46] <orbin> eri--: if it fails to install, check if there's a bug filed for it
[09:46] <SEJeff> lewix: and if you use windows, you can have putty set up the tunnel for you.
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: YEs... means you made changes to your source list and installed questionable pieces
[09:46] <ph8> anyone, what's the program you run from the command line to edit what starts at each run level?
[09:46] <eri--> orbin, there wasnt
[09:46] <eri--> ?
[09:46] <larvanto> kernel update seems to work now
[09:46] <TiG4> Jack_Sparrow, ah ok
[09:46] <TiG4> thanks
[09:46] <orbin> eri--: pastebin the error you're getting
[09:46] <Tonren> how do I turn ubuntu into a wireless router...?
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: Automatix and easyubuntu are NOT recommended
[09:46] <orbin> eri--: and the commands you're using
[09:46] <k0rd> is there anyway to
[09:46] <k0rd> force your cdrom open
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: Try rebuilding your sources
[09:47] <Phoul> Hello
[09:47] <ladydoor> nattfodd: yeah, it briefly talks about that, but trying the commands in there seems to extend the text off the right end of the paper rather than moving it over towards the left
[09:47] <orbin> eri--: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > TiG4
[09:47] <dan_kent> kord: hammer?
[09:47] <TiG4> ph8: How bout this
[09:47] <TiG4> sudo update-rc.d <program> defaults
[09:47] <Phoul> Was there just a bunch of updates?
[09:47] <ph8> looks about right ;)
[09:47] <TiG4> ph8: but i dont want it to run as root
[09:47] <TiG4> I want it to run as a certain user
[09:47] <nattfodd> ladydoor: there should be a big schematics with all the dimensions
[09:47] <dan_kent> kord: or just reboot, sounds like it's locked becuase it's trying to burn
[09:47] <ph8> doesn't the service provide a config file with runas options?
[09:47] <david1> anybody know if upgrading from 256K to 512K might be enuf RAM to run qemu with daffy?
[09:48] <orbin> Phoul: i had a kernel update today ... don't know what the stuff in topic means though
[09:48] <Phoul> Is there a bunch of new updates just recent?
[09:48] <tyler__> I need help...
[09:48] <ph8> Phoul: Do you mean a lot of new updates recently?
[09:48] <Phoul> yeah
[09:48] <Phoul> like nvidia-glx and kernel stuff
[09:48] <nattfodd> ladydoor: try \addtolength{\hoffset}{3cm} for instance
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Couple minor ones
[09:48] <lewix> thanks
[09:49] <lewix> i have to reboot my machine
[09:49] <lewix> brb
[09:49] <cpk2> !help
[09:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:49] <ph8> i've only had kernel stuff in the last week
[09:49] <ph8> but i don't have an nvidia card
[09:49] <vcolombo> there was a kernel update that screwed with nvidia stuff today
[09:49] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[09:49] <orbin> i've had some lib updates too
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[09:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:50] <wubrgamer> can i install gparted whlie running the ubuntu livecd ?
[09:50] <SEJeff> wubrgamer: yes, just open synaptic
[09:50] <orbin> vcolombo: link to info?
[09:50] <eri--> orbin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23462
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> wubrgamer: The install program has gparted in it so gparted should be in there somewhere
[09:50] <vcolombo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459
[09:51] <mcd> Hi I was wondering how I can share my HD so that a windows box can see it
[09:51] <vcolombo> posted 23 minutes ago
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[09:51] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:51] <offby1> yay, 403 problem is fixed
[09:51] <TiG4> **--- If I want to start a process, lets say ./unreal, as user ircd when the computer starts up, how would I do so---***
[09:51] <miked595> mcd there is a kernel mod you can do so windows can read and write to linux partitions.. is that what you want?
[09:52] <nattfodd> mcd: windows can e.g. read/write to ext3
[09:52] <mcd> miked595, No I'm trying to trying to transfer files to a windows box from my Ubuntu
[09:53] <eri--> orbin, any idea about it?
[09:53] <freesun> !search replicator
[09:53] <vcolombo> mcd - just search for penguinet and use it's graphical scp if you're just trying to transfer one or two files
[09:53] <miked595> mcd, you can setup a samba share
[09:53] <TiG4> **--- If I want to start a process, lets say ./unreal, as user ircd when the computer starts up, how would I do so---***
[09:53] <orbin> eri--: searching the error now
[09:53] <eri--> oh
[09:54] <vcolombo> install it on your windows box and connect to your ubuntu box
[09:54] <freesun> !replicator
[09:54] <ubotu> replicator: automate new computer installations in a networked site.. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-sarge-1.5 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 396 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:54] <vcolombo> provided you have openssh-server installed
[09:54] <miked595> mcd, you can use this program on windows http://ftp.ssh.com/pub/ssh/ and ssh to your ubuntu box and use it's scp feature
[09:55] <miked595> mcd, as vcolombo is say lol
[09:55] <miked595> saying
[09:55] <dwight7001> Could someone point me in the right direction for suspend and hibernate documentation?
[09:55] <dwight7001> I recently upgraded my kernel to the 686 SMP one and suspend seemingly broke
[09:55] <orbin> eri--: maybe try opening synaptic and doing: edit > fix broken
[09:55] <mcd> miked595, Thanks
[09:56] <dan_kent> ncd: make a share a folder on your windows box and then places>network servers and browsde to the share
[09:56] <eri--> orbin, sorry for my ignorance but what is synaptic?
[09:57] <orbin> eri--: package manager ... in the sys > admin menu
[09:57] <skybot> http://www.packetnews.com/index.php?channel_id=5494
[09:57] <pitti> ok, new kernel and lrm is up, nvidia should now work again
[09:57] <JackONeill> Hey I just installed xubunu on my other machine, it got past the usplash bit okay and then it just hung on a blank screen... I'm guessing it's just before X.... what gives?
[09:57] <Ricesteam> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 now, and i want to try out xfce without booting/installing Xubuntu. What packages do I need to install?
[09:57] <knapper> Hi, does anyoen here use USP (Ubuntu System Panel)?
[09:57] <JackONeill> knapper, what is it? sounds cool
[09:57] <Tonren> how do I turn ubuntu into a wireless router...?
[09:57] <DBO> knapper, yes whats wrong?
[09:58] <orbin> eri--: or the equivalent command: apt-get install -f
[09:58] <eri--> orbin, as it seems i dont have it installed at all and it does nothing as an option?!
[09:58] <knapper> JackONeill It's a third party project, you can check it on the ubuntuforums.org site
[09:58] <freesun> anyone knows where to look for if I need to find out what LPT->USB and RS232->USB to buy so it works in Linux?
[09:58] <eri--> orbin, oh forcing it to install :)
[09:58] <knapper> DBO, just wondering how to get the text buttons up the side instead of icons
[09:58] <orbin> eri--: no ... -f attempts to fix broken IIRC
[09:58] <asmo674hurt> How to edit (save edited) pictures in usr/share/... directory?
[09:58] <eri--> no luck :(
[09:59] <knapper> DBO every image preview I see of it has nice cool text buttons instead of the icon buttons
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> freesun:  you might check the !hardware list
[09:59] <freesun> !hardware
[09:59] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:59] <JackONeill> Hey I just installed xubunu on my other machine, it got past the usplash bit okay and then it just hung on a blank screen... I'm guessing it's just before X.... what gives?
[10:00] <freesun> jack_sparrow: how? !hardware lookingforthis?
[10:00] <DBO> knapper, those images are out of date
[10:00] <dan_kent> ricestream: search for xfce in synaptice and install xfce4, xfce4-goodies and hit apply
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Which install.. alt cd or live?
[10:00] <DBO> knapper, the next version will allow you to choose
[10:01] <knapper> DBO ok great, thanks
[10:01] <orbin> eri--: dunno sorry.  try hitting the forum ... seems like a dependency issue
[10:01] <asmo674hurt> How to edit (save edited) pictures in usr/share/... directory?
[10:01] <eri--> orbin, thx anyway
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> freesun: You question was not clear, I assumed it was some type of converter translator?  Provide more info.. see who can answer
[10:01] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, alt text install xubuntu to hdd
[10:02] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, this is after the reboot when it should load system for first time
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Did you try the livecd?
[10:02] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, nope
[10:03] <JackONeill> the livecd install pisses me off too much
[10:03] <jbroome> what?
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: It also tells you of hardware problems..
[10:04] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, theres nothing new enough about this machine to warrent any incompatibility issues - and besides i remember debian working on here a while back fine
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Laptop... ati video?  USB devices plugged in?
[10:04] <haploid_> what apt package contains update-rc.d ?
[10:04] <freesun> Jack_Sparrow : I think best solution would be port replicator from Fujitsu-Siemens made originally for my notebook (Amilo Pro V2065), but I assume it would not work under linux unless some special driver was developed (which I find unlikely) I need to convert signals from LPT and RS232 to usb, as there are no LPT or RS232 ports on my notebook, and I need it quite a lot... there is no way buying new plotter and PH meter ;)
[10:04] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, no USB, a v.old ati card so just the normal ati driver... a desktop pc
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: I only use Ub and tried Kb....  But try seeing if usb 2 is enabled in cmos and disable or slow it down to 1.1, there are some grub options to try as well..
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off acpi = no (Solves no mouse problem) pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[10:07] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, like i said... this PC aint new enough for that stuff... no USB2!
[10:07] <user-land> i installed ubuntu 6.06.1 now and ran easyubuntu, but still when i insert a dvd totem opens but then says the necessary plugins are not installed ...
[10:07] <lmosher> Is there a program for ubuntu that will let me 'sleep' for less than 1 second?
[10:07] <erUSUL_> !dvd
[10:07] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: We strongly discourage the use of Easyubuntu and Automatix because it causes problems...
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: Several people this hour alone,  any support in Automatix or easyubuntu...?
[10:09] <anon32> libdvdcss is legal and unpatented isn't it?
[10:09] <spiderworm> i updated my kernel and now the nvidia module wont load --- dmesg shows nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol boot_cpu_data ... nvidia: Unknown symbol boot_cpu_data
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss
[10:09] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:10] <anon32> um, that's not what I asked
[10:10] <spiderworm> anyone else having a similar problem?
[10:10] <larry> I'm new to this - never used IRC before - appears somewhat strange
[10:10] <anon32> larry: mm, IRC is just your average chat room
[10:10] <quiet> larry, it's just like an AOL chatroom. :)
[10:10] <JackONeill> filled with lots of crap
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> larry: sort of like the floor at the stock exchange...
[10:11] <larry> OK I think I understand the meaning of a 'chat-room'
[10:11] <gean> i have huge problems to live see or install ubuntu on my laptop... no floppy, CD-ROM is nor recognized... where can i get ``analogous errors'' listed ?! The live CD runs into Mounting root FS, then gives me the black screen... The alternate CD gives me thechance to type something, but definitively does not recognize my CD-ROM. It says something about my CD-ROM, but i cannot even figure our (ignoance..), where my CD-ROM is mounted in... Any idfea
[10:11] <gean>  ?!
[10:11] <JackONeill> ok Jack_Sparrow ... I just booted in recovery mode which worked fine till i ran startx..... it said summat then went blank screen on me again
[10:11] <miked595> channel damn it
[10:11] <miked595> lol
[10:12] <larry> threw out AOL years ago
[10:12] <quiet> that's great, everyone should.
[10:12] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: nvidia driver crapping out on you?
[10:12] <csp> could anyone maybe help me understand how to resolve broken packages (from console)?
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: I dont have an answer..
[10:12] <user-land> jack_sparrow, thank you. so that changed ... a month ago advice about them was split here ...
[10:12] <jmoncayo> can i run ubuntu with livecd and set up an nfs server?
[10:12] <Therac-25> gean - this may help you to find your cdrom  "mount"  or "sudo fdisk -l" l=list
[10:12] <quiet> anon32, there is no big deal.
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: nope nvidia is working fine.. are you running 386, 686 ?
[10:12] <spiderworm> i mean, JackONeill , is the nvidia driver crapping out on you?
[10:12] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, But your jack sparrow... surely Jack Sparrow is more the hero can Col. Jack O Neill!
[10:13] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: 686
[10:13] <anon32> there is if you say "everyone should throw it out"
[10:13] <freesun> Jack_Sparrow: do you know where to find info on port replicators? which should work under windows?
[10:13] <JackONeill> spiderworm, no nvidia!
[10:13] <quiet> anon32, the only reason to have AIM is because many friends or contacts may have it... i prefer Y! msgr or googletalk
[10:13] <jmoncayo> ?
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> freesun: Just google..
[10:13] <larry> God, this moves fast - how can anyone follow what goes on!
[10:13] <user-land> jack_sparrow, what do you recommend instead ?
[10:14] <anon32> quiet: mm, I prefer IRC
[10:14] <quiet> larry, don't try... try to follow a single conversation and you might be okay... mny channels are not as large as #ubuntu either.
[10:14] <quiet> anon32, as do I... i was simply making a point.
[10:14] <StarQuake> i like jabber
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: please rephrase your question, there is alot going on..
[10:14] <larry> if I ask a specific question - how do I get an answer
[10:14] <anon32> mm, actually, trillain seems to reject Y! connections
[10:14] <Therac-25> A year ago this room had only 800+ users. - today it is empty at 800 users
[10:14] <quiet> isn't trillian for windows?
[10:15] <quiet> or do they have a linux client too?
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> 930 now
[10:15] <csp> oh man, package management drives me crazy in every distro! :| How am I expected to pick on of >300 suggestions from aptitude?
[10:15] <anon32> quiet: yes indeed, I don't have the disk space to delete my windows install
[10:15] <user-land> jack_sparrow, is there a single source of info for making a fresh ubuntu install fully multimedia-capable ?
[10:15] <spiderworm> csp: cross reference the aptitute suggestions with google
[10:15] <quiet> anon32, that makes no sense.
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: Single source.. no...
[10:15] <anon32> user-land: wha? it's apt-get install mplayer
[10:15] <quiet> anon32, i don't have space to delete...
[10:15] <quiet> ?
[10:15] <quiet> lol
[10:15] <larry> i'm lost! Bye
[10:15] <anon32> quiet: or actually, I don't have space to dualboot
[10:16] <quiet> anon32, ah! okay, now i understand.
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: Too many pieces and options, flash, mp3, mpeg, quicktime, realplayer...
[10:16] <Therac-25> anon32 - gparted includes ntfsresize gparted is part of the ubuntu live cd installation disk. - there is also a handy live cd on the web with only gparted.
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted > user-land
[10:16] <csp> spiderworm: but I can't even figure out what the core of the problem is. I mean, it's just dapper being but after the latest kernel upgrade it's just going crazy.
[10:16] <Minty> hello all, would like to try out xfce can anyone give me the correct code line to insall it
[10:16] <anon32> mm, I'd just backup and wipe my ntfs partition, but I don't a hard drive and 30G of DVDs seems like a bad idea
[10:17] <spiderworm> csp: what sort of things are going wrong?
[10:17] <anon32> therac-25: again... not what I asked...
[10:17] <mark> has anyone ever played with partman preseeding in automated installs?
[10:17] <mark> seems like it ignores everything I specify wrt partitioning :(
[10:17] <jake1> is there a utility for Ubuntu that i can use to make bootable CDs
[10:17] <jake1> ?
[10:17] <docgnome> does anyone know of a program that does internet call waiting for ubuntu? i've a dialup connection and would like to be able to see when someone is trying to call me while I'm online...
[10:17] <user-land> jack_sparrow and anon32, thank you. do you remember ubuntu guide ? that was great ...
[10:17] <jake1> i am downloading the .iso image for another computer
[10:17] <vcolombo> Minty - you might just want to try downloading the Xubuntu livecd
[10:18] <miked595> 30 Gigs of dvs.. that's like only 7 dvds
[10:18] <csp> spiderworm: well one prominant thing is that it seem to want to remove mythbrowser.
[10:18] <anon32> jake1: find try k3b for kubuntu, and... dunno for ubuntu
[10:18] <spiderworm> csp: hmmm odd
[10:18] <csp> (because of a dependancy on kdelibs4c2a )
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: you just want to take an iso.. of a bootable system and burn it so it will boot?
[10:18] <anon32> miked595: but several hours to burn with this old dvd drive, and several more for md5 sum checks
[10:18] <tuxub> k3b works on ubuntu too
[10:19] <spiderworm> csp: im having nvidia driver problems after the kernel upgrade i just performed
[10:19] <tuxub> you can try gnomebaker too, i don't know if it creates bootable media
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> k3b is great...
[10:19] <Minty> vcolombo: why the xbuntu  live CD when I want to try the xfce ??
[10:19] <miked595> anon32, burn baby burn
[10:19] <jake1> Jack_Sparrow: no i am downloading another Install disk for Ubuntu, and i wanted to burn it so i can install it to another computer
[10:19] <spiderworm> csp: what kernel version are you running?
[10:19] <anon32> mm...
[10:19] <Tonren> how do I turn ubuntu into a wireless router...?
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Are you running 386, 686 ?
[10:19] <miked595> anon32, start burning overnight it'll be done in the morning
[10:19] <anon32> oh yea, I need the gcc to compile my modem drivers too...
[10:19] <csp> spiderworm: i'm now running 2.6.15-26-386
[10:19] <anon32> :-\
[10:19] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: 686 for the second time
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: right click the iso and burn baby burn
[10:20] <vcolombo> Minty - that's what Xubuntu is... Ubuntu core with xfce instead of Gnome
[10:20] <spiderworm> csp: im running the same version but 686
[10:20] <spiderworm> csp: did you update it today?
[10:20] <vcolombo> Minty - good way to try it without modifying your system
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Busy channel, sorry I missed it.. It does seem to be a problem on the 686 and not the 386
[10:20] <Dynamite> Hi Guys, I know that you've been asked this question a million times but when will ubuntu Edgy Knot 3 be released? (I know it's today but when exactly?)
[10:20] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: no problem
[10:20] <H080J03> something
[10:21] <csp> spiderworm: yeah, i did update and that seems to be the problem. I got the kernel update and "apt-get upgrade" didn't complain
[10:21] <freesun> anyone knoes polish here?
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Do you have the 386 installed as well?  I have both, I may boot into the 686 to se if there is a problem there.
[10:21] <freesun> I found some quite rare info and it is in polish
[10:21] <csp> spiderworm: but I just happened to run aptitude and now it says "Broken #39", which doesn't sound goog
[10:21] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: yes, i do
[10:21] <jake1> can one run KDE on Xubuntu
[10:21] <quiet> sure, instal it
[10:21] <xCling> Im runing TeamSpeak now and no one can hear me on the ts server so I check the settings and now I wounder were is the "Sound driver" now on deffoult it say "/dev/dsp" and I dont have anny drivers there
[10:21] <spiderworm> csp: the vengence of god is upon you
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: It is just a thought that you check that..
[10:21] <StarQuake> gonna clean up here and go to bed
[10:21] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: sure, i'll try 386
[10:21] <user-land> anon32, mplayer says: could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[10:22] <Minty> vcolombo: Ok thanks will do
[10:22] <vcolombo> Minty - otherwise you can do sudo apt-get install xfwm4
[10:22] <anon32> user-land: hmm, you need to find the drivers for your audio device
[10:22] <vcolombo> Minty - but I'd highly recommend Xubuntu, it's actually what I run on both my desktop and laptop now
[10:22] <iceman24k> ok, how can i stop Gnome and get to a runlevel where i can reconfigure the screen resolution via xserver-xorg
[10:22] <user-land> anon32 i had sound earlier today.
[10:22] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: do you have any idea when fixed kernel packages will be coming out?
[10:22] <user-land> skype was working.
[10:22] <csp> spiderworm: yeah, this is way over my head anyway.. but suggestions even include "cancel the removal off grub"  and "Downgrade linux-image..." things I don't really feel like on my headless server :)
[10:22] <anon32> user-land: weird... well, can't help you further
[10:23] <anon32> try looking in the config though
[10:23] <user-land> can i try shutting down the sound server ?
[10:23] <NthDegree> user-land: you have been using unsupported software like skype what do ya expect :p
[10:23] <MattJ> Dink: Around?
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: I saw someone make a change to the topic earlier about a security fix..
[10:23] <gean> Therac-25: thanks fo the help, mount says something about: tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw), however ls /dev/tmpfs gives me the message: ls: /dev/tmpfs: No such file or directory...
[10:23] <quiet> user-land, /etc/init.s/alsa stop
[10:23] <quiet> or restart
[10:23] <quiet> init.d **
[10:23] <user-land> nthdegree are you serious ?
[10:23] <iceman24k> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the resolutions do not appear, keeps telling me i have to be root, but i need user runlevel
[10:23] <jake1> i'm trying to determine if i want Xubuntu or Ubuntu for my P3 machine
[10:23] <jake1> it's old
[10:23] <jake1> kinda slow
[10:23] <NthDegree> user-land: skype is unsupported BS I believe
[10:23] <huats> does anybody have an idea why when I try to get an IP with dhcp, typing dhclient works whereas dhclient3 always fails ? the thing is that dhclient -> dhclient3
[10:24] <anon32> hmm, I wonder how msn messenger works...
[10:24] <jake1> so i was leaning towards Xubuntu
[10:24] <jake1> what do you guys think
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[10:24] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:24] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: im getting the nvidia log screen with the 386 kernel... i guess i can live with the slowness for a bit
[10:24] <jake1> what are the down sides of using xubuntu vs. ubuntu
[10:24] <iceman24k> whats the "text" runlevel
[10:24] <^tiNee^> how do i switch from one chan to another in bitchx?
[10:24] <Dynamite> when will ubuntu Edgy Knot 3 be released? (I know it's today but when exactly?) Thanks in advance
[10:24] <spiderworm> jake1: it defaults to xfce... some people might like that, but i would hate it
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: I know it isnt a solution... but at least you know where the problem is.. Sorry again for not seeing your answer to my question..
[10:25] <user-land> quiet: bash: /etc/init.s/alsa: No such file or directory
[10:25] <gean> Therac-25: also, being in the process of puttin' that linux on the HD, there is no fdisk recognized (from #, that i get through ALT-F2..)
[10:25] <jake1> spiderworm: why?
[10:25] <gean> i have huge problems to live see or install ubuntu on my laptop... no floppy, CD-ROM is nor recognized... where can i get ``analogous errors'' listed ?! The live CD runs into Mounting root FS, then gives me the black screen... The alternate CD gives me thechance to type something, but definitively does not recognize my CD-ROM. It says something about my CD-ROM, but i cannot even figure our (ignoance..), where my CD-ROM is mounted in... Any idfea
[10:25] <gean>  ?!
[10:25] <anon32> what's with the ridiculous names? can't we have ubuntu, and ubuntu-beta?
[10:25] <quiet> user-land, i said init.d
[10:25] <jake1> what's so different about it
[10:25] <NthDegree> user-land: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa stop
[10:25] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: no problem! thanks for your help
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:25] <NthDegree> user-land: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start  <--- once you've stopped it
[10:25] <user-land> quiet i pasted your command. thanks.
[10:25] <NthDegree> user-land: sudo /etc/init.d/esd restart
[10:26] <^tiNee^> can someoen tell me how to switch from one chan to another in bitchx please
[10:26] <MattJ> jake1: I'm using Xubuntu... I love it
[10:26] <salim> My notebook has keys (Fn+Up/Down) to change volume, but I cant use them on (X)ubuntu - how can I change that?
[10:26] <anon32> oh, um, do you have to register with aol to create an AIM account?
[10:26] <Dynamite> anon32, Yes
[10:26] <quiet> yeah.. but not the pay-for service.
[10:27] <anon32> mm...
[10:27] <quiet> it's free registraton...aim.aol.com
[10:27] <user-land> nthdegree: sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found
[10:27] <quiet> hehehe
[10:27] <jake1> MattJ how different is it from Ubuntu
[10:27] <mike_> quit
[10:27] <TimothyP> Hello, I have found a serious security hole
[10:27] <jake1> can it run the KDE interface as well?
[10:27] <TimothyP> http://www.blicbox.be/distro-s/ubuntu/nieuws/gevaarlijke-bug-in-ubuntu-met-xgl-compiz/ --> if you look at the picture you'll see what I mean
[10:27] <anon32> mm, what's ICQ?
[10:27] <NthDegree> anon32, use gaim when you've registered :)
[10:27] <quiet> jake1, yes... just install it.
[10:27] <MattJ> It is Ubuntu, just with Xfce, instead of GNOME or KDE
[10:27] <anon32> nthdegree: meh, already have a client
[10:27] <quiet> anon32, one of the original messaging platforms.
[10:27] <anon32> and it's not aim
[10:27] <MattJ> I guess it can run KDE< you just have to install KDE :)
[10:27] <TimothyP> what I do is I make xgl crash and then restart the xserver and I get access to all the files of the previous user
[10:27] <quiet> anon32, it uses random numbers.
[10:28] <NthDegree> anon32: I said GAIM NOT AIM
[10:28] <anon32> quiet: yea, probably a good idea
[10:28] <jake1> so there is no big difference between xubuntu vs. Kubuntu
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> TimothyP: Like I NEEDED another reason to not use Compiz
[10:28] <jake1> ?
[10:28] <user-land> nthdegree: sudo: /etc/init.d/esd: command not found
[10:28] <quiet> anon32, like.. your ICQ account will be something like...  76893948
[10:28] <synjet> hey, did anybody have probs with flash on FF where music slows down (the stretchy feeling)? syncing prob where sound is awefully behind
[10:28] <NthDegree> 1 sec user-land
[10:28] <MattJ> jake1: No, not that I know
[10:28] <anon32> nthdegree: I heard you... I said I don't have aim
[10:28] <quiet> synjet, yes.. always has been.
[10:28] <synjet> quiet: any fixes you recommend?
[10:28] <anon32> zz... I bet I'll need flash and adblock to register...
[10:29] <NthDegree> anon32: gaim can do yahoo, MSN and of course ICQ too :p
[10:29] <quiet> synjet, not really :(  macromedia does NOT <3 linux.
[10:29] <imc_> RUnning Dapper and I think I clobbered my HAL- certainly my machine can't hibernate any more. How cann i reinstall?
[10:29] <anon32> nthdegree: well, I already have trillain (yes, I AM on a windows box)
[10:29] <NthDegree> quiet, macromedia did but adobe purchased them so macromedia is no more
[10:29] <synjet> quiet: :( damn! and this prob is new.. never had such prob before..
[10:29] <quiet> NthDegree, i'm aware...  adobe is more linux friendly than macromedia though.
[10:29] <MattJ> Not Trillian? :O
[10:29] <NthDegree> anon32: wtf you on windows for :p WE HAVE A SINNER IN THE HIZOUSE
[10:29] <freesun> timothy: you don't have to be logged on before crashing compiz and then get to home dir of other users?
[10:30] <user-land> adobe, i nice robber baron fit for macromedia ...
[10:30] <MattJ> Too right we do
[10:30] <NthDegree> quiet, not true adobe flash hasn't been updated in yonks
[10:30] <MattJ> He should be using Miranda IM
[10:30] <MattJ> :D
[10:30] <pantaloon> can someone tell me how to run a command automatically when x/gnome loads?
[10:30] <quiet> NthDegree, flash 9 is working on linux.
[10:30] <anon32> nthdegree: because I can't resize a 90% used partition and still run a working computer
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> TimothyP: THat link is not real useful
[10:30] <NthDegree> and yes it is ADOBE flash NOT macromedia flash XD
[10:30] <quiet> it's not officially released.. but it's working.
[10:30] <anon32> and because I don't own this computer
[10:30] <quiet> read the developers blog.
[10:30] <MattJ> More reason to use Miranda :)
[10:31] <anon32> nthdegree: personally, I don't like calling it adobe flash... it makes me think I paid $$$ for it
[10:31] <imc_> Asked a different way: what applications control hibernate/restore
[10:31] <imc_> ?
[10:31] <quiet> imc_, suspend2
[10:31] <imc_> thanks, quier
[10:31] <quiet> wtf
[10:31] <quiet> rofl
[10:31] <NthDegree> I do anon32, makes me feel rich ^.^
[10:31] <pantaloon> when i press shift-backspace x reloads itself and i need 'xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us' to run everytime x loads to fix it
[10:31] <imc_> s/quier/quiet
[10:31] <quiet> queer!?
[10:31] <imc_> No no
[10:31] <quiet> ;)
[10:31] <H080J03> what happened to aotumatix?
[10:31] <imc_> though that was a funny fat finger, eh?
[10:31] <anon32> can someone give me a random US zip code
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> People, time for me to get some work done...  Play nice...
[10:31] <pantaloon> anyoneanyone?
[10:32] <quiet> indeed.
[10:32] <quiet> anon32, 61115
[10:32] <imc_> 11201 anon32
[10:32] <anon32> thanks
[10:32] <mike> LEAVE
[10:32] <quiet> 11201?  east coaster!
[10:32] <TimothyP> Jack_Sparrow Compiz is what linux needs to get the end users, besides it improves my productivity
[10:32] <TimothyP> anyway
[10:32] <panegi> hello, some of you may remember me from yesterday. i want to install ubuntu on my computer but the problem is that my harddrive is NTFS. i want to know how to switch it to fat32, i dont care what kind of data i lose becuase i had planned on running DBAN before i went about installing it.
[10:32] <root___> is there a way to get interactive startup (like in fedora) in ubuntu? i need to disable a bunch of services that are timing out on boot
[10:32] <anon32> mike: wha?
[10:32] <imc_> quiet is suspend2 hat comes with Ubuntu out of the box?
[10:32] <user-land> thanks, Jack_Sparrow.
[10:32] <TimothyP> http://bugs.compiz.net/view.php?id=100
[10:32] <CurtisH> Question, When i do a netstat, I get a few wierd UDP connections, anyone tell me how to track these down, and disconnect them?
[10:32] <imc_> quiet that was of course, ubunto dapper
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: glad to help...
[10:32] <imc_> why can't I type today?!
[10:33] <ladydoor> panegi: in that case, yo ushould probably use a format other than fat, such as ext3
[10:33] <red_> i want an extended desktop on my laptop, how do i do it
[10:33] <panegi> whats the difference?
[10:33] <anon32> mm, time to crapflood, I bet they'll ban me at the ip level though
[10:33] <Neo8750> umm
[10:34] <Neo8750> pastebin!
[10:34] <anon32> ?
[10:34] <MattJ> anon32: What are you up to? o_O
[10:34] <anon32> I'm gonna crapflood AIM chat rooms
[10:34] <panegi> oh
[10:34] <Neo8750> oh
[10:34] <gean> i'm exasperated: no chance to put ubuntu on laptop! the live+install cd runs into blackscreen+error-message, the alternate one cannot detect CD-ROM! where can i better report such stuff?!
[10:34] <Neo8750> that bored?
[10:34] <quiet> imc_, i'm not sure how ubuntu has ti configured... i'm used to setting it up from scratch on Arch...  Ubuntu just 'worked' so ididn't have to touch the config.
[10:34] <anon32> lol, nobody cares?
[10:34] <panegi> how do i switch it to something like fat32 or ext3 though?
[10:35] <rylasasin> um any idea on how to get wine 0.9.21?
[10:35] <anon32> panegi: format the partition
[10:35] <panegi> thats it?
[10:35] <anon32> rylasasin: err, apt-get install wine
[10:35] <quiet> panegi, ntfs cannot be converted to fat32 or ext
[10:35] <panegi> after you format it doesnt matter?
[10:35] <anon32> I think
[10:35] <quiet> fat can be converted to ntfs, but no vice versa
[10:35] <panegi> im going to nuke the drive anyway quiet
[10:35] <quiet> good plan.
[10:35] <panegi> i just want to be sure ubuntu will install before i do
[10:36] <rylasasin> it says its the latest version, but when I use wine --version it says 9.20, not 9.21
[10:36] <gean> ok, have to look for something installable first and try ubuntu after that...
[10:36] <glenn_steen> panegi: If it runs the live cd chances are it'll install
[10:36] <anon32> hmm, #eminem sounds like a good target
[10:36] <panegi> the ubuntu installer will format the drive for me, right?
[10:36] <red_> yes
[10:36] <anon32> does anyone know if they'll ban me at the ip level?
[10:36] <gean> may the spirit of ubuntu be with u! bye all!
[10:36] <synjet> panegi: yes
[10:36] <red_> how do i get the extended desktop to work on my notebook
[10:36] <panegi> alright
[10:37] <panegi> anon
[10:37] <panegi> everyone does that
[10:37] <panegi> on aim
[10:37] <anon32> darn
[10:37] <panegi> were you talking about aim or irc?
[10:37] <anon32> panegi: aim, lol
[10:37] <panegi> ive never seen anyone banned from aim
[10:37] <panegi> have at it
[10:37] <anon32> haha... every channel is just a bunch of bots
[10:38] <panegi> exactly
[10:38] <panegi> nobody will read what you say
[10:38] <anon32> [16:37]  Roro1love: 18/f/fl lets chat
[10:38] <Caplain> is grub-install on the livecd?
[10:38] <jake1> CRAP
[10:38] <jake1> just got locked out of the server room
[10:38] <jake1> with my keys inside
[10:38] <jake1> GOD DAMN IT
[10:38] <synjet> Caplain: it gives you a choice: if you want to write to MBR or have your GRUB
[10:39] <panegi> so if i want to format my whole drive and not worry about partitions the ubuntu installer will do all that for me?
[10:39] <jake1> i am sooooooo writing a strongly worded letter
[10:39] <panegi> sorry to sound paranoid
[10:39] <panegi> i just dont like the idea of playing russian roullette with my pc
[10:39] <anon32> hmm, auto-kicked?
[10:40] <Caplain> synjet, i moved my install to a different hdd and the partition is past the 8GB mark on the new hdd
[10:40] <Caplain> ill muck with it
[10:40] <synjet> which is your primary OS? Caplain
[10:40] <anon32> ....
[10:40] <anon32> and here I thought AOL was popular
[10:40] <thansen> hey all, I'm trying to install mono-xsp on edgy
[10:41] <Xal> Hey, is it a bad idea to resize the ext3 partition Ubuntu is installed on?
[10:41] <thansen> it's got some messed up dependencies...does anyone know how to get it installed
[10:41] <grimx> i can't hear any audio when i what video from google video
[10:41] <jake1> :-(
[10:41] <synjet> grimx: if you had a previous audio playing on xmms or some other player, you might have to kill esd
[10:42] <jake1> no one here has a key to the server room
[10:42] <jake1> crap all my stuff is in there
[10:42] <jake1> my laptop, my bags, my iPod
[10:42] <jake1> EVERYTHING
[10:42] <jake1> someone call 9-1-1
[10:42] <jake1> even my cellphone is in there
[10:42] <jake1> this is CRAZY TALK
[10:42] <grimx> the only audio i been able to hear since i installed ubuntu is when i login to ubuntu
[10:42] <panegi> so if i want to format my entire drive, not worrying about partitions or filesytems or anything, the ubuntu installer does all of that for me?
[10:42] <jake1> grimx: what driver are you using
[10:43] <jake1> ?
[10:43] <docgnome> does anyone know anything about using modem-on-hold with ubuntu?
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> panegi: yep
[10:43] <grimx> hold on
[10:43] <MattJ> panegi: Yep, I love it for that :)
[10:43] <jake1> panegi: yes
[10:43] <panegi> alright
[10:43] <panegi> thanks
[10:43] <panegi> if i kill my computer youll see me in here again tonight
[10:43] <grimx> alsa  when using MPlayer
[10:43] <jake1> hmmm
[10:43] <anon32> hmm... I woulda thought at least one person wouldn't be a bot...
[10:43] <jake1> i see
[10:44] <jake1> do other players work?
[10:44] <salestodo555> how to change permissions for file wich owner is root?
[10:44] <jake1> you cnt
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> panegi: you can let it do it's own thing or you can manually partition
[10:44] <jake1> just use sudo salestodo555
[10:44] <jake1> i usually manually partition
[10:44] <grimx> no
[10:44] <Xal> Is it possible to make an ext3 partition with LInux on it larger without messing up the linux install?
[10:44] <grimx> can't hear anything
[10:44] <salestodo555> jakel. thanx
[10:44] <panegi> well i shouldnt have to partition should i?
[10:44] <panegi> im not setting it up to dualboot or anything like that
[10:45] <jake1> not unless you are also running another OS pangegi
[10:45] <grimx> volume on system is all the up
[10:45] <jake1> you may want a backup
[10:45] <panegi> just wiping it clean and installing linux
[10:45] <anon32> well.... the rooms are uselesss, guess I'll have to use peer-based crapflooding
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: use gparted if you want to resize
[10:45] <asonjay99> hey, Can anyone tell me how i would go about changing preferances in mplayer
[10:45] <panegi> theres nothing important on here
[10:45] <jake1> grimx are your speakers plugged in?
[10:45] <grimx> yes
[10:45] <panegi> i can lose it all
[10:45] <jake1> lol
[10:45] <Xal> alright, thanks TheGateKeeper
[10:45] <anon32> asonjay99: do you have the gui?
[10:45] <jake1> then go for it
[10:45] <jake1> panegi
[10:45] <grimx> i can here the beep from ubuntu
[10:45] <asonjay99> anon32 yes
[10:45] <salestodo555> jake1, and then?
[10:45] <Xal> Can it deal with resizing NTFS volumes safely?
[10:45] <MattJ> panegi: That's the best way to do it :)
[10:46] <grimx> when i click sumthin
[10:46] <MattJ> The installation is really easy
[10:46] <panegi> heh
[10:46] <jake1> salestodo555: and then what?
[10:46] <anon32> xal: it can, but there's a risk
[10:46] <anon32> don't resize it too much or you'll regret it
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: probable better than something like partition majic :-)
[10:46] <panegi> well im still a little paranoid about just diving headfirst into this linux thing
[10:46] <panegi> youll probably see me in here again tonight
[10:46] <MattJ> panegi: Why? :)
[10:46] <jake1> what do you need to change permissions on
[10:46] <jake1> if you change permissions you may corrupt your system
[10:46] <MattJ> Come back, have no fear :P
[10:47] <jake1> they are only given to root for a reason
[10:47] <panegi> the ubuntu live cd is the closest thing to linux ive ever used before
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: just download the iso burn it to CD reboot
[10:47] <Xal> Ah, so it's not harmful to resize an ext3 volume then? I haven't used Linux in a while, not since last summer, and then I was told it could mess up the isnstallation.
[10:47] <jake1> if you need to something just login under root
[10:47] <asonjay99> anon32: the problem is that i installed a soundcard and now it says that thre is a problem with alsa control
[10:47] <panegi> im just tired of everyone else who uses my pc filling it up with adware and crap
[10:47] <jake1> or use 'sudo'
[10:47] <MattJ> panegi: Exactly :)
[10:47] <klhrevolutionist> What do I need to install in order to compile ?
[10:47] <anon32> panegi: err, user account control and disk quotas should fix that
[10:47] <jake1> yea microsoft is famous for adware and crap like that
[10:48] <anon32> to be honest, adware is the fault of the user and not the operating system
[10:48] <Xal> TGK: the ISO of ubuntu? I've already got that installed. I only allocated 20gb for the partition, and I want to add a bit to it.
[10:48] <jake1> klhrevolutionist: what are you compiling
[10:48] <Xal> anon32, I agree.
[10:48] <panegi> yeah
[10:48] <jake1> using build-essentials
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: I used it to resized an Arch installation, and have just put a gentoo base system on it
[10:48] <overshard> klhrevolutionist, install gcc
[10:48] <Xal> I don't have any problems with it, at all.
[10:48] <klhrevolutionist> I want to compile aria2c
[10:48] <jake1> or gcc
[10:48] <panegi> but they cant even just use firefox
[10:48] <panegi> goota be ie for them
[10:48] <TBay> whoa, lots of people here
[10:48] <Xal> alright, I'll try it out.
[10:48] <Xal> Thanks.
[10:48] <panegi> its really been bogging my pc down lately
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> yw :-)
[10:48] <jake1> wow yea there are a lot of ppl here
[10:48] <jake1> good to see
[10:48] <klhrevolutionist> http://aria2.sourceforge.net/
[10:48] <anon32> say, I hear that the gcc compiles itself, how would that work?
[10:48] <TBay> hello, i am not an Ubuntu user just yet, waiting for the cd's through the mail, but i was using the LiveCD for awhile there
[10:48] <TBay> i have a question about something
[10:48] <jake1> it's good that ubuntu is getting this crowd
[10:49] <jake1> panegi: then use ubuntu
[10:49] <anon32> tbay: you can install using a livecd
[10:49] <MattJ> panegi: One thing, how do you connect to the internet?
[10:49] <jake1> lol
[10:49] <panegi> ethernet
[10:49] <red_> how do i get an extended desktop on my notebook
[10:49] <panegi> i already got that sorted out
[10:49] <MattJ> panegi: Great :D
[10:49] <overshard> klhrevolutionist, install gcc.... apt-get gcc; tar zxvf aria*; cd aria*; ./configure; make && make install
[10:49] <jake1> i use wireless and ethernet
[10:49] <MattJ> panegi: I wish I were you
[10:49] <jake1> not at the same time though
[10:49] <anon32> panegi: err, again, if you don't give people that use your computer admin, they can't f- it...
[10:49] <klhrevolutionist> overshard: thanks
[10:49] <ph8> hi all
[10:50] <anon32> not saying that ubuntu isn't better than win32 though
[10:50] <ph8> i'm trying to install ubuntu-server from the alternate edgy cd
[10:50] <TBay> heh, ok, well i knew the install from live, anyways, just curious if anyone experienced this and knows how to fix it, whenever view video files on Ubuntu i get flickers every mine or so
[10:50] <MattJ> anon32: Windows 2000 user, right?
[10:50] <jake1> anon32: true
[10:50] <panegi> ive reinstalled windows three times with these people
[10:50] <Shoiabsafdar> grimx: i feel yoy need to update adiuo codeces
[10:50] <asonjay99> hey, I recently Installed a new soundcard and now mplayer keeps coming up witht eh error "Alsa COntrol: Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0"....Anyone know what that means?
[10:50] <anon32> mattj: xp actually, but I've killed over half the services
[10:50] <ph8> i was hoping to get more drivers as my chipset doesn't seem to be supported and hence, my cdrom(dvd) drive isn't recognised during install - what options do i need to choose after it's booted
[10:50] <MattJ> Pity :|
[10:50] <ph8> i was told to put 'server' in the boot prompt, but i don't know how to get the boot prompt!
[10:50] <anon32> panegi: um, can you even hear me? file permissions...
[10:50] <jake1> but sometimes you cnt prevent adware when it comes to windows
[10:50] <MattJ> Dinner -->
[10:50] <jake1> sometimes shit happens
[10:50] <panegi> they wont be getting root access when i get linux either
[10:51] <erUSUL> !alternate > ph8
[10:51] <jake1> which is one thing i like about linux
[10:51] <ph8> what's OEM mode?
[10:51] <anon32> panegi: if your password is blank, they can just sudo
[10:51] <ph8> no 'live' session?
[10:51] <erUSUL> !oem
[10:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:51] <panegi> the sudo command works in ubuntu too right?
[10:51] <jake1> however i am kinda hoping that linux becomes alot more popular
[10:51] <panegi> or is that just debian
[10:51] <ph8> looks exactly the same as the previous install
[10:51] <jake1> will make it easier to use
[10:51] <erUSUL> panegi: of course
[10:51] <panegi> ill be giving it a password, trust me
[10:51] <erUSUL> !root > panegi
[10:51] <jake1> OEM is good sometimes if you only want to install part of the system
[10:51] <anon32> and by the way, win32 has a sudo port
[10:52] <jake1> and actually i only could use the alternate CD for some reason
[10:52] <ph8> erUSUL: It looks the same as previous installers
[10:52] <ph8> if i select 'install a server' the identical installer starts
[10:52] <asonjay99>  hey, I recently Installed a new soundcard and now mplayer keeps coming up witht eh error "Alsa COntrol: Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0"....Anyone know what that means?
[10:52] <ph8> same thing happens when i select text only
[10:52] <jake1> mostly cuz the resolution on the other CD did not work for my LCD screen
[10:52] <anon32> though to be honest, I never could get sudowin working..
[10:52] <panegi> last question
[10:52] <jake1> so i could use a text based installer on the OEM, and i could also adjust resolution on startup from the OEM
[10:52] <lmosher> I'm back to a question I had earlier. Is there any way to run a script after the mouse/keyboard have been idle for a certain ammount? I'm trying to replace the screensaver with something that runs in a script...
[10:52] <panegi> i give root a password and they cant even sudo, right?
[10:53] <ph8> what's OEM stand for?
[10:53] <anon32> panegi: sudo doesn't even involve root, it asks you for your own password
[10:53] <TBay> ugh, does anyone ever have any flickering when viewing video files while on Ubuntu OS?
[10:53] <anon32> !sudo
[10:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:53] <jake1> Original Equipment Manufacturer.
[10:53] <ph8> hmm
[10:53] <synjet> TBay: is it using mplayer-firefox plugins?
[10:53] <jake1> ph8 are you having a problem installing or something?
[10:53] <ph8> so i want to get more compatibility options to install ubuntu-server so it can detect my bloody dvd drive
[10:54] <ph8> it can't find my cd drive
[10:54] <TBay> Possibly, i don't remember exactly, i remember that i used gxine
[10:54] <ph8> although it's booting from it
[10:54] <jake1> :-\
[10:54] <anon32> the meaning of original equipment manufacturer can be strained though, it's legal to sell oem windows by bundling a usb extension with it
[10:54] <jake1> weird
[10:54] <klhrevolutionist> overshard: pm please ?
[10:54] <ph8> someone recommended using alternate because it might have more drivers (modules?) but i still only have none / cdrom in the list
[10:54] <erUSUL> ph8: do you have a jmicron pata chip ??
[10:54] <synjet> TBay: yes, it happens..
[10:54] <jake1> never had a problem with ubuntu finding my DVD drives
[10:54] <ph8> yes erUSUL
[10:54] <jake1> out of my 3 week experience
[10:54] <jake1> lol
[10:54] <anon32> zzz...
[10:54] <ph8> P5B motherboard
[10:54] <ph8> any idea how to fix?
[10:54] <TBay> that sucks, i wish that wouldn't happen
[10:55] <panegi> alright
[10:55] <panegi> i think ive figured it out
[10:55] <panegi> thanks
[10:55] <grimx_> i can hear sound from "cd player" but i can hear sound from online videos such as from googles video search
[10:55] <erUSUL> ph8: you have to pass the 'all-generic-ide' (iirc) parameter at boot promt
[10:55] <ph8> ok
[10:55] <ph8> any idea how to go about that? ;)
[10:55] <TBay> probably only downside of Ubuntu that i dont' like is you can't play Warcraft 3 (well you can but its a pain in the butt to setup) and the flickering with video files
[10:55] <jake1> grimx_ sounds like a codec issue then
[10:55] <anon32> OMG! there's actually a ##windows? I thought that redirected it a generic room..
[10:55] <jake1> what browser are you using?
[10:55] <grimx_> what should i do
[10:55] <grimx_> firefox
[10:56] <jake1> did you try switchfox
[10:56] <grimx_> if have realplayer and mplayer
[10:56] <jake1> actually.....
[10:56] <cpk2> TBay: I have never experienced problems with warcraft 3 on linux
[10:56] <jake1> it might not matter
[10:56] <synjet> grimx_ try this crude method: close FF, open processes, kill esd, then open FF again, and try viewing the flash video..
[10:56] <jake1> u using i386 x86
[10:56] <jake1> or i386 x86_64
[10:56] <grimx_> x86
[10:56] <jake1> ah
[10:56] <jake1> ok
[10:56] <TBay> heh, well i never got the darn thing to work cpk2, all that would end happening is the boot screen then crash, and i tried -opengl thing
[10:56] <jake1> hmmm
[10:57] <spiderworm> anyone here use knetworkmanager?
[10:57] <TBay> i am also terrible at the terminal commands with linux
[10:57] <erUSUL> ph8: when you boot from alternate cd at some point you should see a promt like this 'boot:' just type after that 'boot: all-generic-ide' and hit enter
[10:57] <TBay> not very linux smart here
[10:57] <TBay> haha
[10:57] <Oscar> what command do i use to change screen resolution from the command line? (This is on a server install.)  Thanks.
[10:57] <jake1> TBay well then you should learn to love the command prompt
[10:57] <grimx_> i can what video coming over the web just can't hear it
[10:57] <jake1> if you use Linux
[10:57] <ph8> erUSUL: It goes straight to the menu
[10:57] <ph8> which option should i be choosing from there?
[10:57] <jake1> u'll spend lots of time in there
[10:57] <synjet> Oscar: you would have to edit your xorg.conf file
[10:57] <TBay> heh, yeah, but i always screw something up in linux if i mess with it
[10:58] <ph8> should i be pressing 'F6' for extra options and entering it there?
[10:58] <jake1> ph8 for drivers
[10:58] <Oscar> thanks
[10:58] <jake1> what is in the extra options
[10:58] <user-land> how can i stop the ubuntu 6.06.1 sound server ?
[10:58] <synjet> Oscar: and then restart your X server
[10:58] <ph8> it says boot options
[10:58] <ph8> and has things like 'quiet' etc
[10:58] <jake1> user-land go to command line
[10:58] <asonjay99> how do i disable my onboard sound
[10:58] <quiet> shhh
[10:58] <jake1> and type in 'ps ax'
[10:59] <jake1> and then find out which task it is
[10:59] <ph8> from the main menu?
[10:59] <erUSUL> ph8: maybe (i instaled ubuntu back in the warty beta days and upgraded via inet all the way to dapper so it's been ages since i saw the instaler)
[10:59] <ph8> oh whoops
[10:59] <jake1> then type in 'kill <pid>'
[10:59] <ph8> didn't work just typing in all-generic-ide
[10:59] <jake1> you may need to use 'sudo' for that though
[10:59] <ph8> i'll try it with the boot in front of it
[10:59] <asonjay99> how do i disable my onboard sound
[10:59] <jake1> asonjay you could always blacklist your sound driver
[10:59] <jake1> i think
[10:59] <erUSUL> ph8: no the boot should be there just like the bash promt
[11:00] <asonjay99> jake1: and how would i do that?
[11:00] <ph8> nah
[11:00] <ph8> first thing i see is that menu
[11:00] <TBay> wow, there are A LOT of people in this chat, i just looked
[11:00] <jake1> well you can paypal me 200 USD and i'll do it for you
[11:00] <jake1> just kidding
[11:00] <jake1> ummm
[11:00] <jake1> !blacklist
[11:00] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[11:00] <TBay> haha
[11:00] <user-land> jake1, ps ax gives a long list ...
[11:00] <mikedep333> hey guys, does anyone know of a list of useful dpkg-reconfigure commands?
[11:00] <jake1> user-land yes those are processes
[11:00] <TBay> dang, i want 200$
[11:01] <mikedep333> or packages to reconfigure with that command rather
[11:01] <jake1> find which one points to sound
[11:01] <asonjay99> thnks
[11:01] <synjet> mikedep333: man
[11:01] <Spike1506> how do they call widgets for linux?
[11:01] <Spike1506> and what are some good widgets for linux?
[11:01] <TBay> oh i have a question, do they have a Dock system for linux at all?
[11:01] <jake1> brb... gotta close the computer labs
[11:01] <synjet> Spike1506: you mean sthing like desklets?
[11:01] <mikedep333> synjet: man what?
[11:02] <mikedep333> oh
[11:02] <mikedep333> the man command
[11:02] <jake1> TBay: let me guess... OS X user?
[11:02] <Spike1506> yeah synjet  thats what i mean
[11:02] <synjet> man <command> gies all the info
[11:02] <TBay> ha, nope Windows XP user, i just like Mac OS X
[11:02] <jake1> ah
[11:02] <synjet> Spike1506: apt-get install gdesklets
[11:02] <jake1> you may like the kde interface then
[11:02] <Spike1506> thanks synjet
[11:02] <synjet> Spike1506: then configure gdesklets as to the position, the applis
[11:02] <jake1> it's very windowsish
[11:02] <jake1> and you can configure the panel to act like the dock
[11:02] <TBay> I checked out the KDE through screen shots, it looks decent but like i said, Mac look is awesome
[11:03] <TBay> oh really?
[11:03] <jake1> as it would in OS X
[11:03] <TBay> hmmm
[11:03] <jake1> yea
[11:03] <TBay> is it easy to make it into KDE or hard?
[11:03] <ph8> grr
[11:03] <ph8> how do i get the boot prompt!
[11:03] <jake1> easy
[11:03] <jake1> just get it from synaptic
[11:03] <jake1> kde-common i think
[11:03] <TBay> alright, cause i am really dumb when it comes to linux
[11:03] <TBay> though i want to learn
[11:03] <jake1> something like that
[11:03] <TBay> alright sweet
[11:03] <jake1> brb... gotta close computer labs
[11:04] <TBay> k
[11:04] <mamat> hi, i cant talk to my parallel port :( any idea? i get a "invalid argument: /dev/parport0" on "dd if=/dev/parport0"
[11:04] <Spike1506> E: Couldn't find package gdesklets
[11:04] <jake1> when you restart TBay you need to select KDE in your session manager
[11:04] <erUSUL> ph8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:04] <synjet> Spike1506: hmmn maybe your repos have to be edited, coz it shows in my apt-cache search
[11:05] <reitzell> I messed up my sound. Is there a setup for sound that I can re-run like x86config or something?
[11:05] <synjet> !gdesklets > Spike1506
[11:05] <TBay> alright sweet, thanks jake1
[11:05] <ph8> ah just needed to press ESC!
[11:05] <Spike1506> ty
[11:05] <ph8> thanks erUSUL - lets try that ide fix
[11:05] <TBay> haha, has anyone here ever watched Revolution OS movie?
[11:05] <Spike1506> lol
[11:05] <Spike1506> can't visit that link
[11:05] <Spike1506> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[11:06] <erUSUL> ph8: no problem
[11:06] <ph8> right
[11:06] <synjet> TBay: yeah, it is nice
[11:06] <ph8> i type boot: all-generic ide
[11:06] <ladydoor> !dumb
[11:06] <ph8> or just all-generic-ide
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <ph8> and get 'Could not find kernel image :<options>'
[11:06] <TBay> awesome movie, made me realize just how defiant Linux users are against Windows haha
[11:06] <synjet> TBay: kinda cult status
[11:06] <TBay> synjet: yeah but it was a good movie still
[11:07] <Spike1506> gonna search on google
[11:07] <mrpheus> Is there a way to enable extra 3d and other effects in kde
[11:07] <ladydoor> ok, so i was able to find a LaTeX package that sets all the margins but the bottom one to an inch. Does anyone know of a way to set the bottom margin?
[11:07] <synjet> TBay: oh yeah.. but maybe they should have made it free to dload ;)
[11:07] <erUSUL> ph8: you do not need the boot  just put all-generic-ide at the en of the boot line as show in the pics (in the pics they append vga=771)
[11:07] <pitti> ladydoor: you can't
[11:07] <pitti> ladydoor: what you do is, you set the top margin and the text height
[11:07] <Vanique> NthDegree: here?
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: since latex knows the paper format, the bottom margin is just what's left
[11:08] <TBay> synjet:  Heh, well its not that hard to get a copy through torrent or any other means, but your right, it woudl've been sweet if they made it free movie
[11:08] <ladydoor> pitti: ah, sweet. thanks muchly; I'll try that!
[11:08] <NthDegree> yeppers :)
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: but really, you shouldn't set them manually; use the KOMAscript class
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: and use DIV=18 or so
[11:08] <ladydoor> pitti: what is KOMAscript?
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: scrartcl instead of article, and so on
[11:09] <Oscar> #quit
[11:09] <ladydoor> pitti: ok, but what does that mean/do?
[11:09] <pitti> ladydoor: with them, you can set \documentclass[DIV15] {scrreprt}, for example
[11:09] <grimx_> i have no w32codecs ,, its says not available
[11:09] <TBay> universe
[11:09] <TBay> and multiverse
[11:09] <TBay> i remember that crap
[11:09] <jake1> alrite i'm out
[11:09] <pitti> ladydoor: they are much better than the original article/book/etc. classes, more options and nicer formatting
[11:09] <jake1> i'll go online when i get home
[11:09] <grimx_> i used sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:09] <H080J03> does any one know of any good css editors for ubuntu?
[11:10] <jake1> but just killed the labs
[11:10] <runtime> hey why should someone move to ubuntu instead of windows?
[11:10] <jake1> and i want to get out of here for the day
[11:10] <TBay> later Jake1
[11:10] <jake1> runtime: stability
[11:10] <jake1> no viruses
[11:10] <salim> hi
[11:10] <ph8> i put in 'server all-generic-ide' after the boot: prompt erUSUL and it didn't work :/
[11:10] <jake1> no spyware
[11:10] <jpjacobs> runtime, ni viruses mallware
[11:10] <ph8> any other ideas?
[11:10] <jake1> no adware
[11:10] <jake1> sheesh i could go on and on
[11:10] <ladydoor> pitti: ah...so that will automagically set the environment?
[11:10] <pitti> jake1: but, first of all, freedom! :)
[11:10] <salim> how can I change the volume through the console (I need for lineakd)
[11:10] <jake1> FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMM
[11:11] <ladydoor> salim: alsamixer
[11:11] <mrpheus> is k3b the best cd/dvd writing app in Linux
[11:11] <pitti> ladydoor: well, not automagically, but things like DIV are nice, since they allow you to control the layout without messing up typography standards
[11:11] <TBay> hey guys, curious about another thing, is it true Linux systems hardly get viruses/worms/tojans
[11:11] <jake1> yep
[11:11] <ph8> of course tbay
[11:11] <jpjacobs> mrpheus, at least the best i've seen
[11:11] <jake1> never seen a virus
[11:11] <pitti> TBay: nowadays, still yes
[11:11] <mrpheus> k cool
[11:11] <jake1> though i used Mac OS X and never got a virus
[11:11] <pitti> TBay: however, that's not really an intrinsic Linux feature
[11:11] <jake1> or anything
[11:11] <grimx_> where can i download win32codecs
[11:11] <ladydoor> pitti: pardon my ignorance, but I've only just started picking up LaTeX; what is DIV?
[11:11] <runtime> jake1, feature wise is what I really want to focus on
[11:12] <jake1> !restricted formats
[11:12] <pitti> TBay: it's mainly a matter of scale; attacking Win systems is much more attractive nowadays
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <jake1> !restricted formats >grimx
[11:12] <TBay> pitti: haha ok, explains why i need an antivirus for windows
[11:12] <jake1> grimx go there
[11:12] <jake1> !restricted formats
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <grimx_> where
[11:12] <salim> is there sth like alsamixer increasevolume?
[11:12] <jake1> runtime: free software
[11:12] <grimx_> freeformats??
[11:13] <pitti> TBay: well, of course some aspects in linux are just better designed
[11:13] <jake1> is a good feature
[11:13] <JackONeill> whats that command for listing IDE devices?
[11:13] <jake1> but if you are wanting to play shootem ups like HL2 and CSS
[11:13] <ladydoor> salim: alsamixer gives you a curses ui...plus there's always amixer
[11:13] <pitti> ladydoor: it's a special option of the scr* classes to calculate the borders and text width/height according to typography standards
[11:13] <jake1> then stick with winblows
[11:13] <TBay> yeah, heh, i feel like a newb on IRC and a Newb on Ubuntu info, but do i need to register my name on this channel at all?
[11:13] <RetLaw> Hi, I have a (probably stupid) question. I need to modify the aliases-file which is readonly. I tried "chmod +w aliases" but that isn't allowed. How can I modify the aliases-file ?
[11:13] <ladydoor> pitti: aha
[11:13] <pitti> ladydoor: please google for some documentation
[11:13] <JackONeill> lside ?
[11:14] <pitti> ladydoor: of course you can just use \textwidth and \textheight, that'll work as well
[11:14] <jake1> TBay you should
[11:14] <jake1> i do
[11:14] <jake1> i think it's a freenode thing though
[11:14] <pitti> ladydoor: but at least in Germany the scr* classes are very famous and they have high quality
[11:14] <jake1> not for this #
[11:14] <TBay> ok, how do i do such a thing jake1
[11:14] <ladydoor> pitti: good point...google's always a good idea
[11:14] <synjet> TBay: you are not required to
[11:14] <TBay> oh ok
[11:14] <jake1>  /msg nickserv register <password here> <e-mail address here>
[11:14] <Captain_Redbeard> Hey guys.... .deb specific question... How do I, after compiled something, make it in to a deb package?
[11:14] <mrpheus> i keep on getting failed writing errors when trying to write dvdr's, i suspect it's either faulty dvd's or my dvd writer has had it's day, only about 4/10 writes are successfull.
[11:14] <jake1> and then your done
[11:14] <jake1> then to sign in
[11:14] <TBay> ah alright, sweet
[11:14] <salim> please I'm noob, I'm getting crazy, HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!! I just want to increase/decrease volume in lineakd, for my notebook Fn-Key
[11:15] <salim> why do I have to waste 2hrs of my time for just such a simple thing
[11:15] <jake1>  /msg nickserv identify <password your registered here>
[11:15] <salim> I'm getting crazy
[11:15] <JackONeill> Pleaaase! What is the command for LISting IDE devices?
[11:15] <helloworld> Captain_Redbeard: the easiest way would be checkinstall
[11:15] <pitti> JackONeill: what do you have in mind?
[11:15] <JackONeill> lside ?
[11:15] <anon32> salim: go to #aol or stop typing in txt
[11:15] <jake1> peace out
[11:15] <jake1> going home
[11:15] <Captain_Redbeard> helloworld: ah, there is no such thing in the package system itself? ok, cheers man
[11:15] <ladydoor> salim: you want to set it up to use a key to increase/decrease volume?
[11:15] <salim> yes
[11:16] <Spike1506> i can't get those gdesklets to work :(
[11:16] <JackONeill> pitti, eh!?
[11:16] <Spike1506> installed gnome-common package already
[11:16] <Spike1506> still not working right
[11:16] <pitti> JackONeill: ls -l /dev/hd*? lspci? hal-device-manager?
[11:16] <graveson> where can i find the latest package for ffmpeg. the one that is part of dapper do not seem to support all codecs eg mp4 or mov
[11:16] <pitti> JackONeill: i. e. what do you want to know about your IDE devices?
[11:16] <RetLaw> Hi, I have a (probably stupid) question. I need to modify the aliases-file which is readonly. I tried "chmod +w aliases" but that isn't allowed. How can I modify the aliases-file ?
[11:16] <mrpheus> anyone know a similar app to dvdremake... for linux
[11:17] <lmosher> I've written a bash script that I want to run using xscreensaver. I've gotten this to MOSTLY work, when I run xscreensaver it runs my script, but UNDER a painted black window. How do I remove this window from within my script?
[11:17] <root_> RetLaw: Make sure you are sudo?
[11:17] <pitti> RetLaw: you need admin powers for that -> use sudo gedit or something
[11:17] <Blissex> lmosher: that window is the screensaver.
[11:17] <root_> RetLaw: --- sudo chmod 'mode' file.
[11:17] <Blissex> !restricted
[11:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <RetLaw> shouls i use "sudo chmod +w aliases" ?
[11:17] <lmosher> Blissex, Perhaps, but I want it to go away :)
[11:17] <Blissex> graveson: look at the above links
[11:17] <synjet> lmosher: mind sharing the script?
[11:18] <pitti> RetLaw: no, please ignore root_, you should not ever make a file in /etc writable for you
[11:18] <Blissex> lmosher: then do not use the screensaver.
[11:18] <pitti> RetLaw: no, you should use sudo gedit /etc/aliases
[11:18] <H080J03> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 14 14:13:24 2006
[11:18] <ph8> erUSUL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249326&page=3 <-- well documented there
[11:18] <H080J03> what does that mean?
[11:18] <lmosher> Blissex, um? my script runs as the screensaver UNDER this window. synjet. THe script rotates my compiz cube, I want to use that as the screensaver
[11:18] <kroog> hello
[11:18] <lmosher> and the cube does rotate, just under Xscreensaver's stupid black window that I can't seem to override in the options.
[11:18] <ph8> if i'm setting up to boot from usb disk
[11:18] <pitti> RetLaw: sudo chmod would make the file writable for you, but as well to malicious firefox plugins, etc.
[11:19] <ph8> do i just copy the cd image across?
[11:19] <justin_> RetLaw: pitti I was simply telling him how to make it writable, I never said he should do it in /etc ;)
[11:19] <RetLaw> pitti: thanks I'll give it a try
[11:19] <ph8> and then how do i make it bootable and make it ignore my other partition?
[11:19] <synjet> compiz has weird issues... I never got it to work
[11:19] <justin_> pitti: Your ruining the fun of learning hardknocks :)
[11:19] <Neo8750> i got it to work once but it was way to slow
[11:19] <pitti> justin_: sorry for spoiling it :)
[11:19] <justin_> pitti: :P
[11:20] <Blissex> lmosher: then you are trying to define your own screensaver module. It is either/or: either your screensaver or 'xscreensaver'.
[11:20] <Shadowpillar> so who's great plan was it to change xscreensaver to gnome-screensaver?
[11:20] <H080J03> umm i can't run anything as root beacuse it has the wrong time stamp, so what do i have to do to fix this?
[11:20] <Shadowpillar> whose*
[11:20] <TBay> man, the linux community seems to be a very nice community :-)
[11:20] <Blissex> lmosher: anyhow 'xscreensaver' can run a number of modules; just look at its docs on how to create a new module.
[11:20] <era86> anyone here use openbox as their desktop?
[11:20] <AZzKikR> H080J03, there should be a file in your home directory with the timestamp info i think
[11:20] <lmosher> Blissex, I have deleted /usr/lib/xscreensaver/swirl and replaced it with my own executable script. This is what I am using.
[11:21] <H080J03> you know what it is called?
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> gnome-screensaver crashes for me occasionally
[11:21] <JackONeill> just installed xubunu - what package do i get to install gnome?
[11:21] <AZzKikR> H080J03, .sudo_as_admin_successful i think
[11:21] <JackONeill> i cant see a gnome-desktop
[11:21] <Spike1506> gnome is installed as default JackONeill ?
[11:21] <AZzKikR> try deleting that one
[11:21] <lmosher> Blissex, but the problem is my script modifies the physical environment. Let's pretend it turns my x-chat window black and then blue... this happens sucessfully if I run the script independently
[11:21] <Blissex> lmosher: it is not as simple as that.
[11:21] <JackONeill> Spike1506, this is xubuntu
[11:21] <Spike1506> ohw ok
[11:21] <H080J03> thx
[11:21] <Spike1506> a misread :$
[11:21] <JackONeill> i cant see a gnome-desktop... what is it to install gnome ?
[11:21] <H080J03> do i have to be root to edit it?
[11:22] <lmosher> Blissex, but if I run xscreensaver it still happens, but a black window covers my desktop. I would like to use my script to destroy the black window...?
[11:22] <AZzKikR> H080J03, no, just delete it from your homedir
[11:22] <kroog> H080j03 try like a user
[11:22] <Blissex> lmosher: you hve to run it in the way 'xscreensaver' expects it to run.
[11:22] <Blissex> lmosher: for example most likely 'xscreensaver' passes a Window ID to the module...
[11:23] <synjet> JackONeil: apt-get install gnome?
[11:23] <fluvvell> anyone know how to get just the last dozen or so lines of dmesg?
[11:23] <justin_> JackONeill: Did you install the regular Ubuntu CD?
[11:23] <justin_> JackONeill: sudo apt-get ubuntu-base
[11:23] <pitti> fluvvell: 'dmesg'?
[11:23] <justin_> Unless you installed the normal Ubuntu, in which case it would be an Xserver issue
[11:23] <H080J03> i moved it to the trash, same thing
[11:23] <pitti> fluvvell: if it's not there any more, /var/log/kern.log
[11:23] <H080J03> and the file was empty
[11:24] <lmosher> Blissex, I suppose I could set the xscreensaver window to fully transparent. That would work.
[11:24] <Spike1506> Anyone knows where to get the glib-gettext package?
[11:24] <AZzKikR> H080J03, hmm. you probably edited the time of your machine, did you not?
[11:24] <fluvvell> pitti:  i get a whole two screenfuls, need a shorter version
[11:24] <H080J03> yea i just did that
[11:24] <pitti> fluvvell: aah - dmesg | tail
[11:24] <AZzKikR> H080J03, i had the same thing... i don't know how i fixed it, i deleted that file and just waited a bit
[11:24] <Spike1506> !glib-gettext
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib-gettext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <H080J03> it was the right date, but wrong say of the week
[11:24] <ph8> hey all
[11:24] <ph8> does edgy knot2 work?
[11:25] <ph8> i saw something saying it's completely fucked
[11:25] <Sybux> hi
[11:25] <fluvvell> oh DUH
[11:25] <ph8> is that true?
[11:25] <fluvvell> of course
[11:25] <H080J03> so i am basicly stuck in a time wrap?
[11:25] <jrib> !edgy
[11:25] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:25] <Blissex> lmosher: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#writing-savers
[11:25] <AZzKikR> H080J03, try: sudo -k
[11:25] <Sybux> any1 know how to connect a SonyEriccson P910i on kubuntu ?
[11:25] <AZzKikR> H080J03, that command will kill the sudo session or something
[11:25] <kthugalug> !nautulis
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautulis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <AZzKikR> !nautilus
[11:25] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[11:25] <Captain_Redbeard> Is there a package containing all the buildtools?
[11:25] <H080J03> no
[11:25] <jrib> Captain_Redbeard: build-essential
[11:25] <H080J03> same error
[11:26] <kthugalug> !nautilis
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Captain_Redbeard> cheers
[11:26] <BigMac> hello
[11:26] <kthugalug> !nautilus
[11:26] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[11:26] <BigMac> i am having major major problems
[11:26] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[11:26] <kthugalug> fank you very much!
[11:26] <AZzKikR> H080J03, try, sudo -K
[11:26] <AZzKikR> H080J03, uppercase K
[11:26] <H080J03> i did
[11:26] <jrib> !it
[11:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:27] <AZzKikR> and lowercase?
[11:27] <H080J03> i did
[11:27] <H080J03> yep
[11:27] <H080J03> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 14 14:13:24 2006
[11:27] <kads> when printing to my ubuntu computer from a winxp box through the network t is very slow
[11:27] <H080J03> that is what returns
[11:27] <synjet> BigMac: shoot your q, somebody would try to answer
[11:28] <AZzKikR> H080J03, try deleting: /var/run/sudo/`whoami`
[11:28] <BigMac> i cant get ubuntu to load on my machine...I have tried the live 64bit and the alt 86i
[11:28] <RetLaw> pitti: : I had to use sudo vi instead of sudo gedit (server edition i assume), worked ok, thanks for helping
[11:28] <simtower> is there a package that can be installed to get the boot screen back after a new kernel is installed
[11:28] <H080J03> alrighty then
[11:28] <synjet> BigMac: on ppc?
[11:28] <BigMac> prob with 64bit live is Xserver
[11:28] <kads> how can i speed up network printing
[11:28] <BigMac> neg PC
[11:28] <pitti> RetLaw: oh, I only use vi too, but it's not something I usually recommend to #ubuntu questions :)
[11:28] <H080J03> i need root privleges to do that
[11:29] <AZzKikR> yeah, i figured...
[11:29] <pitti> RetLaw: don't forget 'sudo newaliases' :)
[11:29] <BigMac> i have an ati rad x700 pci-e
[11:29] <H080J03> AZzKikR, any other ideas?
[11:29] <swim> suddenly i can't log on to, or ping gnome-look.org... what can I do?
[11:29] <synjet> BigMac: what is the prob?
[11:29] <BigMac> xserver wont run
[11:29] <BigMac> even after reconfigure
[11:29] <AZzKikR> H080J03, yeah, change back your date to the timestamp sudo gives
[11:30] <H080J03> you have to be root to do that
[11:30] <AZzKikR> H080J03, lol
[11:30] <AZzKikR> H080J03, reboot :D
[11:30] <H080J03> i know
[11:30] <synjet> BigMac: you are thrown to shell?
[11:30] <RetLaw> pitti: : newaliases ? I had to modify /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:30] <BigMac> yes
[11:30] <H080J03> alrighty then
[11:30] <H080J03> brb
[11:30] <pitti> RetLaw: ah, I thought /etc/aliases; sorry then
[11:30] <AZzKikR> H080J03, i am reading here about ppl with same problems
[11:30] <Spike1506> anyone knows where to get the glib-gettext package?
[11:30] <slewis> H080J03: sudo passwd root
[11:30] <synjet> try typing startx
[11:30] <BigMac> and i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <Dev05> Hey! Can someone give me some help upgrading to Edgy???
[11:30] <pitti> Spike1506: there's no such thing
[11:30] <AZzKikR> Dev05, edgy hasnt been released yet
[11:30] <BigMac> right that comes back and says no screen
[11:31] <RetLaw> pitti: no prob, thanks for helping !! appreciated !!
[11:31] <Dev05> AZzKikR, I know. The dev release.
[11:31] <synjet> BigMac: check your xorg.conf, is your ati card listed there? I doubt
[11:31] <Spike1506> ***Error***: You must have glib-gettext >= 2.2.0 installed
[11:31] <Spike1506>   to build gDesklets.  Download the appropriate package for
[11:31] <Spike1506>   from your distribution or get the source tarball at
[11:31] <Spike1506>     ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.2/glib-2.2.0.tar.gz
[11:31] <AZzKikR> Dev05, ah, no can't help you with that ;)
[11:31] <Spike1506> but the link doesn't work
[11:31] <BigMac> how will i do that?
[11:31] <AZzKikR> Spike1506, use pastebin next time ;-)
[11:31] <BigMac> check it to read it
[11:31] <sedrake> My X stopped working after I kernel upgrade, how do I fix my nvidia drivers?
[11:31] <Dev05> AZzKikR, np ;)
[11:31] <Spike1506> pastebin?
[11:31] <AZzKikR> !pastebin
[11:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:31] <Spike1506> ohw ok ty :P
[11:32] <AZzKikR> np :)
[11:32] <Dev05> It keeps saying: "Cannot calculate the update."
[11:32] <synjet> BigMac: pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see the video/screen segment
[11:32] <BigMac> ok
[11:32] <BigMac> also
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I would like help share ing an HP100 between two Ubuntu computers connected via a router..  I am trying to use this tutorial...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu  I have edited the server and the client cups per the doc and restarted both but from there I am lost..
[11:33] <synjet> Spike1506: still having probs with gdesklets?
[11:33] <Dev05> !tell Dev05 about Edgy
[11:33] <BigMac> when i run config xserver.xorg it tells me to start ?GDM? when its configured then i am unable to config xserver at all
[11:33] <Spike1506> synjet, yes, i need that glib-gettext package :S
[11:33] <Spike1506> but the url i get doesn't work :(
[11:33] <amazingbill> Is there a graphical way to manage multiple ssh connections (a la putty), or am I stuck with terminal and "ssh joe@blahhost.com"?
[11:33] <Spike1506> tried a search on google but no results with a download
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: Building your own gdesklets?
[11:34] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I just got mine from the repo.
[11:34] <BigMac> synjet: thanks for the help I am going to try that i will be back
[11:34] <trakz> damn kernel updates.....
[11:35] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow,  how do you mean?
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I just used synaptic and let it install them
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !gdesklets
[11:35] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[11:35] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow, i can't find them in sunaptic
[11:35] <antoxz> what does the "quiet" kernel option do?
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Hummm.
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[11:36] <synjet> Spike1506: compare your sources to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23470 then it is just a apt-get away
[11:36] <Spike1506> ok
[11:36] <tamacracker> Guys?... What can open .ZIP files in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: YEa, I get them there..
[11:37] <Spike1506> ..
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: HAve you enabled universe, multiverse and non-free
[11:37] <Hentai_jeff> tama:the package manager
[11:37] <tamacracker> hm... ok let me try
[11:37] <idontwanna> quick question
[11:37] <idontwanna> is it safe to resize ntfs partitions in gparted?
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[11:38] <idontwanna> alright
[11:38] <idontwanna> all i needed to know
[11:38] <idontwanna> thanks
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: There are always risks...
[11:38] <jerrcs> hi i have a question. whenever i do "ls /" my terminal seems to freeze up :\
[11:38] <idontwanna> such as?
[11:38] <Spike1506> Let me check
[11:38] <tamacracker> it's not listed in the "open with" option
[11:38] <tamacracker> package manager that is
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: But I have done it several times and so have others... I suggest you defrag and scandisk first
[11:38] <idontwanna> i defragged it
[11:38] <ladydoor> tamacracker: unzip
[11:38] <idontwanna> wats scandisk?
[11:38] <ladydoor> tamacracker: unzip filename
[11:38] <idontwanna> whats*
[11:39] <jerrcs> not sure whats happening with that, its also bringing my cpu usage up alot
[11:39] <antoxz> what is the effect of the "quiet" key in GRUB config files?
[11:39] <dudanogueira> hello there! does anyone knows how to convert a image (in batch mode, with convert) mantaining a fixed width?
[11:39] <tamacracker> i dont see a unzip >.>
[11:39] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow,  didnt had them enabled
[11:39] <Realcoolguy> I just migrated to a new computer, everything seems to be working great, except the integrated intel NIC (something pro 1000) doesn't seem to work
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: First, you should always have a backup... that said, working at the partition level with multiple OS... there are a lot of variables..
[11:39] <ladydoor> tamacracker: errr...what do you mean?
[11:39] <tamacracker> I have a zipped folder, I right click it
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I'm two for two today eh?
[11:39] <tamacracker> the list of programs to open it with
[11:39] <idontwanna> well thats what im trying to set it up to do is dualboot
[11:40] <tamacracker> has nothin to open ziped files
[11:40] <tamacracker> zipped*
[11:40] <ladydoor> tamacracker: aha! open a terminal, *then* type unzip filename.zip (in the right dir)
[11:40] <Hentai_jeff> tama it'll go to it automaticly
[11:40] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow, what do you mean? (sorry english isn't my first language..)
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: It means I am glad I could help..
[11:40] <ladydoor> tamacracker: also, if you want somebody to help you you need to say their nick before you speak--otherwise it's often hard to tell someone's talking
[11:40] <synjet> Spike1506: you hadnt all the repos enabled, thats why I sent my sources.list
[11:40] <Spike1506> Ah ok ty
[11:41] <tamacracker> ladydoor gotcha...
[11:41] <Spike1506> synjet, ah ok thanks
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: WIndows insists on being the first os on the first partition...  It will setup dual boot quite nicely.. I dual boot here.
[11:41] <ladydoor> tamacracker: :-)
[11:41] <sedrake> I did a update and now X doesnt work it says my nvidia kernel is bad, how do I fix that?
[11:41] <Spike1506> Finally i can install them, thanks synjet  and Jack_Sparrow
[11:41] <DBO> sedrake, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:41] <ladydoor> tamacracker: sorry, i imagine my instructions must often seem obtuse, since i kind of assume *everyone* prefers to work in a terminal. haha
[11:41] <synjet> Spike1506: no prob
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone here able to walk me through sharing an HP1100 printer?
[11:42] <sedrake> DBO: what do u mean with 'uname -r' ?
[11:42] <Realcoolguy> anyone know of any issues with ubuntu and intel integrated nic cards?
[11:43] <maple1> how do I uninstall ubuntu to install windoze XP?
[11:43] <cpk2> ladydoor: not everyone uses a terminal? *gasp*
[11:43] <synjet> Jack_Sparrow: tried printtool?
[11:43] <DBO> sedrake, backticks, ` not '
[11:43] <ladydoor> cpk2: lol
[11:43] <DBO> sedrake, type it exactly as I did
[11:43] <hyperb0lix> I have integrated Ethernet
[11:43] <sedrake> DBO: ok
[11:43] <hyperb0lix> Intel, in fact
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> synjet: No, I was trying to follow the wiki on it..
[11:43] <ladydoor> cpk2: it may seem obvious to you, but i doubt i could get any work done if i weren't allowed to use a terminal
[11:43] <swim> suddenly i can't log on to, or ping gnome-look.org... what can I do?
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> synjet: Do I install that on one or both pc's (both using ubuntu)
[11:44] <tamacracker> ladydoor command not found.
[11:44] <cpk2> ladydoor: I can never trust those guis, who knows what they are actually doing =P
[11:44] <hyperb0lix> xd
[11:46] <tamacracker>  unzip System of a down Hypnotize.zip /home/tamacracker/desktop does not work to unzip my .zip folder
[11:46] <bsdfox> use quotes
[11:47] <bsdfox> or escapes like a big boy
[11:47] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:47] <tamacracker> use quotes?...
[11:47] <tamacracker> on the name of the folder?
[11:47] <cpk2> tamacracker: it wont accept spaces
[11:47] <ladydoor> tamacracker: hmm, ok, try sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude install unzip, and then try again
[11:47] <Eeyore_Jr> know where i can find a *.vmx file for ubuntu so i can run the live cd under windows ?
[11:48] <Eeyore_Jr> !vmx
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <Sybux> He, what the hell ?!?! I've just updated my system with apt-get upgrade and now aiglx won't start. If I try to run the script based in .kde/Autostart, it says : [Desktop: command not found ???
[11:48] <ladydoor> tamacracker: also, try this when you're redoing the uzip command:  unzip System <hit tab>
[11:48] <sedrake> DBO: Now it complains about "framebuffer" instead, u know how to fix that to?
[11:48] <ladydoor> cpk2: i can't tell whether you're making fun of me or not, haha
[11:48] <ladydoor> !it
[11:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:48] <DBO> sedrake, need the xorg log please
[11:48] <DBO> sedrake, in pastebin
[11:48] <cpk2> tamacracker: tab completion is the most awesome utility ever
[11:49] <hyperb0lix> :-D
[11:49] <sedrake> DBO: i'm in terminal, cant
[11:49] <hyperb0lix> Go bash shell!
[11:49] <tamacracker> cpk2 is tab completion a ZIP program?
[11:49] <cpk2> ladydoor: i'm not, even if there is a gui that might be faster and simpler i still use a term =)
[11:49] <RootChaos> does anyone know which package to install to get hold of this module ?
[11:49] <RootChaos> Unable to load module '/usr/lib/powerdns/libgmysqlbackend.so'
[11:49] <ladydoor> tamacracker: no, it's built into BASH, which is the "shell" you're typing things into
[11:49] <cpk2> tamacracker: tab completion is when you type Sys press tab and it finishes the name
[11:50] <tamacracker> ok
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !printtool
[11:50] <ubotu> printtool: Tk-based printer configuration tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5-9 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 308 kB
[11:50] <swim> where is a good place to learn how to create a package from a binary app?
[11:50] <Frederick> does anyone ever managed to get debbug info for image magick in ubuntu?
[11:50] <DBO> sedrake, switch to the old nv drivers, log into x, and give me your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[11:50] <ladydoor> cpk2: i don't believe i've ever seen a faster/simpler GUI than a terminal, lol...at first i thought they existed in some cases, such as cd burning, but then i discovered BASHBurn
[11:51] <sedrake> DBO: how do I switch to old drivers?
[11:51] <DBO> sedrake, just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:52] <JackONeil> !samba
[11:52] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:53] <swim> um anyone please?
[11:53] <JackONeil> !smb
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <ladydoor> !patience
[11:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:53] <JackONeil> How can I share a dir so another win pc can view it?
[11:53] <Sybux> He, what the hell ?!?! I've just updated my system with apt-get upgrade and now aiglx won't start. If I try to run the script based in .kde/Autostart, it says : [Desktop: command not found ???
[11:53] <sedrake> DBO: still cant start X
[11:53] <ladydoor> !language
[11:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:54] <cpk2> JackONeil: samba should work fine
[11:54] <kads> how can i speed up network printing
[11:54] <ladydoor> !kubuntu
[11:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[11:54] <sj> JackONeil: I couldnt get to work, but smbclient
[11:54] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[11:54] <ladydoor> sedrake: try #kubuntu
[11:54] <epidemik> i got this error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[11:54] <epidemik> whats that mean?
[11:54] <epidemik> can i get help fixing it?
[11:54] <DBO> sedrake, did you select the nv driver?
[11:54] <sedrake> ladydoor: why?
[11:54] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[11:54] <sedrake> DBO: yes
[11:55] <tamacracker> ladydoor... I changed the name of the zip to one word which is Hypnotize, it is located on Desktop, the directory should be home/tamacracker/desktop
[11:55] <DBO> sedrake, see if bootint into the old kernel works
[11:55] <swim> where is a good place to learn how to create a package from a binary app? anyone, help?
[11:55] <epidemik> can i have help install graphics card
[11:55] <ladydoor> sedrake: because it sounds like a kubuntu problem
[11:55] <epidemik> i get an error when i try running a 3d game
[11:55] <sedrake> ladydoor: what is kubuntu?
[11:56] <ladydoor> sedrake: oh! i'm really sorry
[11:56] <ladydoor> sedrake: that was for Sybux
[11:56] <ladydoor> Sybux: try #kubuntu
[11:56] <sedrake> lol
[11:56] <Sybux> ok
[11:56] <klhrevolutionist> Anybody know of an ubuntu pkg. for aria2c ?
[11:56] <epidemik> please help me
[11:56] <epidemik> any one good with graphics cards whod like to help me
[11:56] <sedrake> rebooting
[11:56] <cpk2> sedrake: just so you know though its ubuntu that uses kde
[11:57] <ladydoor> tamacracker: ok, cool. so try this (now that you've installed the unzip package, right?):  unzip ~/Desktop/Hypnotize
[11:57] <wastrel> thx
[11:57] <swim> ... no one know how to build a package?
[11:59] <spider-worm> !flash
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:59] <ompaul> !checkinstall > swim
[12:00] <ladydoor> ompaul: isn't that for a source package, not a binary?
[12:00] <swim> ompaul: I've heard its not a good app for that