[12:10] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: you would move it there or copy it there?
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: move it there - then dpkg-reconfigure will start with a clean config
[12:11] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: and the copy in my home dir would just be a backup?
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: Yes but if necessary (which I don't think it will be it could just be copied back - still trying to work out whether you need to use r128 or atimisc instead of radeon
[12:12] <jmichaelx> ahh
[12:12] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: i was being tempted to give fglrx a try
[12:13] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: Its only for radeon 8500 and above
[12:13] <jmichaelx> but i think this card is probably too old for that
[12:13] <jmichaelx> ok
[12:13] <grothesk_> Juste made a kernel upgrade. But my via-chipset still quirks. :-(
[12:16] <jmichaelx> hmm
[12:18] <GStubbs43> Anyone know if it is possible to have gtk/GNOME apps (like Firefox) use the top osx like menu bar?
[12:20] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: would it make any difference if i changed the "monitor" setting in the display system settings to " 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz"?
[12:21] <naegling23> how do I specify line in for recording?
[12:21] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: at present, "monitor" says 'generic'
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: That xorg.conf looks nothing like anything that my dapper or edgy machines would generate looks really old
[12:22] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: strange, as i never had anything older than dapper on this box
[12:23] <octan> !paste
[12:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:24] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: well, i am going to change this monitor setting.... if that does nothing, i will move the xconf to home and reconfigure
[12:24] <MadRush> if im gonna get apache2+php4+mysql, do i have to do anything special to get php and mysql to cooperate?
[12:24] <pointwood> I'm looking for suggestions as to what there is wrong with my system - I'm not getting konversation 1.0 installed :( my sources list and various other info here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23431
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: Ok let me know the outcome - i might ask in #xorg about what to use for rage 3d pro - xserver-xorg-driver-ati seems to provide ati / radeon / r128 and atimisc but there are no docs at all about how to use r128 or atimisc
[12:26] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: ok, i will try that. thanks for the assistance.
[12:28] <naegling23> can anyone help me with some audio issues?
[12:33] <Disasta> moep moep
[12:33] <spoop> kde owns your fais
[12:34] <naegling23> under kmix, Input, there is no option for line-in (there is a line in on my soundcard) how can I add it?
[12:35] <Stardog> !flash
[12:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:37] <naegling23> ggggggrrrrrrrr on to month number two of no audio......frustrated.........turning back to windows.....at least that works.....
[12:39] <D4m4ge> bye, bonne nuit
[12:39] <kubuntu> bona nit
[12:41] <grothesk> pointwood: I got my konversation through imbrandon.com Repo.
[12:43] <pointwood> grothesk: it looks like it should be in the backports as well or am I misunderstanding the output of apt-cache madison konversation?
[12:44] <grothesk> I don't know madison
[12:45] <pointwood> "It displays available versions of a package in a tabular format." <-- from the man page
[12:45] <grothesk> apt-cache policy doesn't show it to me.
[12:45] <pointwood> doesn't here either
[12:46] <pointwood> where can I find that repo you mentioned?
[12:46] <grothesk> ## amarok dapper key: wget http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/887D9FD2.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[12:46] <grothesk> deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper all
[12:51] <pointwood> grothesk: that worked!
[12:54] <Al> Hello. The usual method of activating left-button-hold - double-tapping and holding on my mouse pad - isn't working. Does anyone know why this might be? It works in Ubuntu.
[12:55] <SpAwN> !iso
[12:55] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:56] <Al> also, where's the mplayer plugin for Firefox in the Kubuntu reps?
[12:57] <Zamboulie> i need help
[12:57] <Zamboulie> i installed an audigy 2 and there are no linux driver
[12:57] <Zamboulie> what do i do?
[12:59] <Zamboulie> anybody there?
[12:59] <flaccid> !undelete
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about undelete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <flaccid> !recover
[12:59] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[01:04] <Zamboulie> !audigy
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audigy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <Zamboulie> !creative
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <Zamboulie> !sound
[01:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:05] <Zamboulie> aah there we go
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> !info mplayer-mozilla
[01:05] <ubotu> Package mplayer-mozilla does not exist in any distro I know
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> !info mozilla-mplayer
[01:06] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[01:06] <keldon85> hi guys
[01:06] <Al> I'm sure I have multiverse
[01:06] <keldon85> i made a grave mistake installing sun-java5-jdk using the adept gui
[01:07] <keldon85> since it requires input from the command line I had to abort the installation
[01:07] <Al> my mistake, I have multiverse backports
[01:08] <keldon85> AI: What you need to do is change the one with universe and add multiverse
[01:08] <Al> Yeah :)
[01:08] <keldon85> so is anyone awake who could help me with my aborted installation problem or should I just reinstall linux
[01:08] <Al> I had backports multiverse but not plain old multiverse
[01:09] <keldon85> AI: it's not the one with backports that you should be interested in ... what you are supposed to do is enable the universe repository
[01:09] <keldon85> but change the line so that it is 'universe multiverse'
[01:09] <keldon85> instead of just universe
[01:10] <keldon85> !java
[01:10] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago2> i need help setting up an ATI card
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago2> i followed the walk through already
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago2> but it doesn't recognize the card as installed on the step after reboot
[01:14] <keldon85> Admiral_Chicago: what ati card is it?
[01:15] <keldon85> ^^ just out of curiosity
[01:15] <keldon85> AI: By the way what are you trying to install?
[01:16] <beemonk> I so badly want to play my windows games...is there no other way but to partition of a little piece and dual boot windows :(
[01:16] <soulrider> omg, did you guys know there is a Ubuntu Christian Edition ?
[01:16] <soulrider> beemonk: thats what i do
[01:17] <keldon85> beemonk: what problem are you having?
[01:17] <beemonk> soulrider : in that case....i switched from xp to kubuntu a week ago...
[01:17] <beemonk> i got rid of all my windows stuff...
[01:17] <keldon85> beemonk: I mean why is it that you can't dual boot?
[01:17] <beemonk> will it be stable to set up another bit of one of my hard drives for windows?
[01:17] <soulrider> sure
[01:17] <beemonk> Well...i wanted to get rid of windows completely...been using it for so long, i switched completely
[01:17] <beemonk> didnt think of dual booting
[01:17] <soulrider> i use kubuntu for everyhting
[01:17] <soulrider> but not for playing
[01:17] <soulrider> i use redmond for that
[01:18] <kubuntu> can you believe that! kristubuntu   O_o?
[01:18] <beemonk> redmond ?
[01:18] <soulrider> windoze :P
[01:18] <soulrider> lol
[01:18] <beemonk> lol
[01:18] <beemonk> ok...right...
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago2> keldon85: Radeon X180
[01:18] <beemonk> i've got... 2x 160 gig drives
[01:18] <beemonk> and a usb 400gig drive
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago2> 1800*
[01:19] <beemonk> but i formatted everything to ext3
[01:19] <beemonk> is it going to be hard to section off a bit for windows ? :s
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago2> keldon85: X1800 GTO on a 64 bit system
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> beemonk: Should have used reiserfs (you can resise that with tools really easily)_
[01:20] <beemonk> h3sp4wn : "should have" ? or "can" ?
[01:21] <beemonk> :s
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> beemonk: If you have alot of partitions you can just move all the data from one to the other
[01:21] <keldon85> beemonk: there shouldn't be any trouble dual booting, not sure about resizing, there are utilities for this, well with mandrake
[01:22] <beemonk> h3sp4wn : I don't have any data....all my hard drives are in ext3 format...All i want to do is section off say 50gig of a drive, and make it so that i can install windows on it..
[01:22] <beemonk> but im a linux noob and i dont know how to configure it so i can dual boot
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> You need to install windows first or reinstall grub after windows
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> !grub
[01:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:23] <beemonk> Damn...I've just remembered, i put my legit copy of windows on this vmware, so its going to lock me out if i try to install windows again :S
[01:23] <Admiral_Chicago2> soulrider: ask nixternal about it
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago2> its called Ithachux or somethign like that
[01:24] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago uhm ?
[01:27] <MichaelVail> question: is there any way to apt-get remove a program along with the deps it used?
[01:28] <InteliWasp> !remove
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <MichaelVail> like to remove dar and kdar at the same time
[01:29] <MichaelVail> without typing apt-get remove dar kdar
[01:29] <Kr4t05> MichaelVail: Adept?
[01:29] <MichaelVail> i have a bunch of deps that are left over from programs I uninstalled
[01:29] <lupine_85> MichaelVail: aptitude does
[01:29] <MichaelVail> ahh
[01:29] <MichaelVail> niice
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> aptitude only does if you always used aptitude
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> if you haven't use deborphan
[01:30] <keldon85> Admiral, have you got all of the 32 bit package requirements for a 64 bit system installed
[01:30] <beemonk> I'm in "Disks and filesystems"....trying to create a windows NTFS partition...im a bit stuck :(
[01:31] <MichaelVail> thanks
[01:31] <keldon85> Admiral: XFree86-Mesa-libGL, libstdc++,libgcc,XFree86-libs,fontconfig,expat,freetype, and zlib must be installed
[01:32] <beemonk> Mount Point / Device / Mount permission, I don't know what to put for these seeing as Its for XP
[01:32] <timmy_> Hey, anyone else having problems with Source Forge?
[01:32] <InteliWasp> !ntfs
[01:32] <keldon85> beemonk: you don't really need to set up the ntfs partition from within linux
[01:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:33] <keldon85> once you've freed the partition space you can simply install windows
[01:33] <beemonk> But how do you suggest i free the partition space without creating an nfts parition
[01:34] <beemonk> oh...wait...
[01:34] <beemonk> as long as i have enough space, the win installer can create one
[01:34] <beemonk> but....then after windows installs....how do i choose between linux and xp ?
[01:34] <keldon85> after windows has installed you will need to reinstall lilo/grub
[01:35] <beemonk> how do i do that :S
[01:35] <keldon85> the installation cd's for a lot of the previous linux builds i have had have boot record restore options
[01:35] <keldon85> but just to be safe i would burn a cd that will restore the bootloader
[01:35] <beemonk> I have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu install cd's
[01:36] <beemonk> How do i do that...lol
[01:36] <osiris> which doesnt work so hot with SATA drives
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> The kanotix bootcd can fix most grub problems
[01:36] <beemonk> ah.....
[01:36] <beemonk> i have a sata hd
[01:36] <beemonk> I just dont want to be stuck with no os and no options...
[01:36] <InteliWasp> how do i get xchat to open links i click on to open in firefox?
[01:36] <osiris> i couldnt get the MBR to repair with a maxtor SATA drive and via controler.  your milage may vary
[01:37] <beemonk> ah i've bottled it
[01:37] <beemonk> :S
[01:37] <beemonk> cant do it
[01:37] <keldon85> its not too hard, just make sure you've left space for windows
[01:37] <beemonk> well i've got 600 gigs of space
[01:37] <osiris> InteliWasp, go to settings, advanced, and url handelers.  make a duplicate of the opera one, replacing firefox information
[01:38] <keldon85> if all else fails, the worst that can happen is that windows installs and none of your cd's will install a bootloader
[01:38] <beemonk> so the latest kubuntu cd
[01:38] <beemonk> thats got a boot loader on it?
[01:39] <osiris> it has a "repair boot record" option
[01:39] <beemonk> ok
[01:40] <InteliWasp> thanks osiris
[01:40] <osiris> yep
[01:40] <keldon85> oh yeah is anyone around who knows about restoring corrupt adept installs
[01:43] <bubu1uk> keidon85: just reinstall it again
[01:44] <keldon85> bubu: what linux?
[01:45] <bubu1uk> nope, just package
[01:45] <lotusleaf> I use Synaptic with Kubuntu, I never liked Adept
[01:45] <bubu1uk> if i understood right what ur problem is
[01:47] <keldon85> the problem i have is that most of adept is not functioning properly now
[01:47] <bubu1uk> what is not working there?
[01:48] <bubu1uk> how u mean not working properly
[01:48] <keldon85> lol, well actually it is working now
[01:49] <keldon85> what was happening is that when i tried to remove the broken installs it would give an error message saying that other packages depended on it
[01:49] <keldon85> but it would not allow me to install it, so i also had to remove other packages that were involved
[01:50] <keldon85> from now on i will install all packages from the terminal just incase it requires input
[01:50] <bubu1uk> well, then it's not really problem of adept,
[01:50] <keldon85> it happened because i chose the sun-java5-jdk update using the gui and not the command line
[01:50] <bubu1uk> ;)
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> adept should do that (and handle dependancies like aptitude) imho
[01:51] <keldon85> adept will not [to my knowledge]  allow any text input into the console, it was only displaying it
[01:51] <keldon85> so then the installation halted halfway through
[01:51] <bubu1uk> ahh
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> It should though (there is no reason why it should not)
[01:52] <keldon85> hmmm, well i tried every option, but maybe there is something I just didn't notice
[01:53] <keldon85> is there any way to search the repositories online in the same way you do with adept?
[01:53] <warpzone> theres a command you can install
[01:53] <warpzone> which I did
[01:53] <warpzone> and promptly forgot what it was :-P
[01:54] <warpzone> so I guess I'm asking too
[01:54] <keldon85> :)
[01:54] <warpzone> lemme see if I can find it
[01:55] <keldon85> !java
[01:55] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:55] <bubu1uk> i think u can search for packages in repos, but u probably won't get full list of all aviable
[01:55] <lupine_85> apt-cache search
[01:56] <lupine_85> it searches for <regex>
[01:57] <bubu1uk> is there somewhere on internet list of programs that r on windows and their linux equivalent?
[01:58] <der_steppenwolf> bubu1uk, yes
[01:58] <warpzone> ooo thanks lupine
[01:58] <bubu1uk> der_steppenwolf: do u even know where? ;)
[01:58] <der_steppenwolf> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[01:59] <bubu1uk> thanx
[02:00] <warpzone> weird question, kinda vague:
[02:00] <der_steppenwolf> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/AppHelper
[02:01] <warpzone> I once saw a friend SSH into another box and start an x client on that box as a new workspace on his comp
[02:01] <warpzone> how would you do this? a prog or command?
[02:01] <Fatb0y> you have to enable X11 forwarding through SSH
[02:02] <warpzone> ooo sounds scary
[02:02] <Fatb0y> just edit your ssh_config to turn on x11 forwarding and then ssh -X ip and you can run apps or other items from another box
[02:02] <Fatb0y> by default x11 foward is set to no  change it to YES
[02:02] <lotusleaf> wow, konversation 1.0 builds easy
[02:02] <warpzone> Fatb0y: sweet thanks a bunch man, thats awesome, can't wait to try it
[02:03] <keldon85> x11 ssh was great for me
[02:03] <keldon85> i had it working under windows when it happened ... i was compiling my code in ssh FROM HOME, and being able to execute it and see my code running
[02:04] <bbeck_> This may be just a coincedence, but since I updated the kernel via adept Amarok hangs indefinitely when trying to listen to last.fm streams.  Has anyone else noted this?
[02:05] <Fatb0y> the only want to foward x11 apps to windows is with an application like x-win32 and its high   easy to forward x11 apps to another nix box or mac
[02:06] <warpzone> awesome... need it to set up my current box as a media server
[02:06] <Fatb0y> if you meant you were shelling in and watching code build via a term like putty  thats no biggie there especailly if you preface the command with screen   then you can close it and log back in later  take back over the screen process and pick up from there
[02:06] <warpzone> just wanted to ssh into it from my laptop
[02:06] <j2daosh> anyone in here use amarok?
[02:06] <Fatb0y> warpzone, then download a program that is free called putty
[02:06] <j2daosh> ssh?
[02:07] <Fatb0y> secure shell
[02:07] <j2daosh> yeah i was just wondering if thats what yall were talking about
[02:07] <Fatb0y> sudo apt-get install openssh-server  then you can shell into your box with ssh ip
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> warpzone: use mpd - client and server (from other boxes that is quite funky)
[02:07] <keldon85> amarok!!! music app???
[02:07] <j2daosh> amarok wont play my mp3 (its ok cuz i have xmms but its an annoyance)
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> j2daosh: install libxine-extracodecs
[02:08] <j2daosh> Fatb0y: he might have to use lssh
[02:08] <Fatb0y> i love my new itunes 7 on my macbook   kubuntu is my nfs server  :)
[02:08] <j2daosh> i couldn't manage to get open-shh server working properly
[02:08] <Fatb0y> yeah  ssh is very handy
[02:08] <Fatb0y> j2daosh,  what error did you get?
[02:08] <Fatb0y> or what were you trying to accomplish
[02:09] <Fatb0y> openssh server is easy to setup
[02:09] <j2daosh> didn't get an error, just wouldn't let me connect for some reason
[02:09] <Fatb0y> you have openssh-server installed right now?
[02:09] <Fatb0y> thats an easy fix
[02:09] <j2daosh> i just setup lssh and now im good... that and freenx... now i get twice as much work done while im at work ;)
[02:10] <Fatb0y> run sudo apt-get install openssh-server   and be sure it generates your keys okay   then open up an ssh application from windows like putty or just open up a command line term from another nix box and be sure you have openssh-client installed and type ssh ip_of_nix_box and login
[02:10] <j2daosh> i am already setup on ssh
[02:11] <Fatb0y> j2daosh, you may not have had openssh-client installed
[02:11] <j2daosh> i just had to use lssh instead...
[02:11] <j2daosh> yeah i had it installed
[02:11] <Fatb0y> hmm
[02:11] <Fatb0y> very strange
[02:11] <j2daosh> yeah it was
[02:11] <Fatb0y> port 22 should have been open
[02:11] <Fatb0y> but you could have checked that in the config as well
[02:11] <j2daosh> so i said screw it and tried lssh... worked fine for me :)
[02:11] <Fatb0y> what is the difference with ssh and lssh?
[02:11] <Fatb0y> as i do not use lssh
[02:11] <j2daosh> none
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> did you remember to rehash (if you are using anything other than bash (i.e csh / zsh)
[02:11] <j2daosh> just a different author
[02:12] <Fatb0y> well i will have to add that to the strange list as i have never had issues installing or even compiling ssh
[02:12] <j2daosh> i only use bash
[02:12] <j2daosh> i insteaded the lib files bnut i still get nothing from amarok
[02:12] <Fatb0y> insteaded? installed?
[02:12] <keldon85> !java
[02:12] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:12] <j2daosh> now i got it working :)
[02:13] <keldon85> oh yeah, is there anyone who maintains the help.ubuntu.com pages here
[02:13] <j2daosh> well that was easy
[02:13] <j2daosh> lol
[02:13] <keldon85> because the JAVA one i just brought has an error in its text
[02:14] <keldon85> man linux is so great ...
[02:14] <keldon85> i'm running chat, installing eclipse and burning a cd at the same time !!!
[02:15] <j2daosh> and you wont have to restart 3 times a day
[02:15] <j2daosh> or get a virus
[02:15] <j2daosh> or spyware
[02:16] <keldon85> yup
[02:16] <j2daosh> and you can log in on 7 tty's
[02:16] <j2daosh> oh!!
[02:16] <j2daosh> someone better know this
[02:16] <j2daosh> lol
[02:16] <j2daosh> what is the application that will allow me to have 7 different desktops?
[02:16] <j2daosh> like one running on my text tty's
[02:16] <steveire> what is the point of ttys?
[02:16] <j2daosh> no tty you display
[02:16] <j2daosh> no display
[02:17] <keldon85> all i know is ctrl + something + F[number] 
[02:17] <steveire> j2daosh: KMenu > start new session
[02:17] <keldon85> ahh something=alt
[02:17] <j2daosh> there was an application that changed inittab and allowed gui's on all tty's... not just 7
[02:20] <warpzone> yeah gotta say, If linux had some professional CAD software, I'd could get rid of windows completely
[02:21] <j2daosh> it does
[02:21] <warpzone> as it stands, since I've installed ubuntu and then kubuntu ive fallen in love with my compy
[02:21] <Ash-Fox> Anyone using the new kernel yet?
[02:21] <warpzone> j2daosh: whats it called?
[02:21] <j2daosh> qcad
[02:22] <warpzone> i need something like Pro-E or inventor
[02:22] <warpzone> hmm lemme take a look-see
[02:22] <warpzone> awwww only 2-D :( :(
[02:23] <j2daosh> its only 2d?
[02:23] <warpzone> still, worth investigating
[02:23] <j2daosh> hmm... well there is a 3-d modeling application but i dont think it is cad...
[02:23] <warpzone> miya or something like that
[02:24] <j2daosh> blender
[02:24] <warpzone> my bro uses it (graphical designer and animator)
[02:24] <j2daosh> thats what my wife does lol
[02:24] <j2daosh> i cant get her to get away from winblows though
[02:24] <lupine_85> !blender
[02:24] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[02:24] <j2daosh> oh i think imma have to read that :)
[02:24] <warpzone> ditto
[02:25] <j2daosh> cuz yeah... i looked at it and then quit the app
[02:25] <j2daosh> lol
[02:25] <keldon85> is gimp the main package that is used to design the linux style graphics that most of the distros have?
[02:25] <j2daosh> im too stupid to use that
[02:25] <j2daosh> yes
[02:26] <lupine_85> gimp++
[02:26] <lupine_85> even a complete amateur like me can get half-decent results :)
[02:26] <j2daosh> lol
[02:27] <keldon85> well i got skillz
[02:27] <lupine_85> e.g. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/rai84/googoositeimage.jpg :)
[02:28] <warpzone> haha
[02:29] <keldon85> !java
[02:29] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:29] <Al> !w32codecs
[02:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <Al> How do I set my preferred programs?
[02:32] <Al> found it
[02:36] <Ma1> Hi?
[02:36] <Ma1> Anyone can help me? / Est-ce que quelqu'un peut m'aider?
[02:38] <lupine_85> !ask
[02:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:38] <lupine_85> !fr
[02:38] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:38] <naegling23> under kmix, I dont have an option for a line in input, how can I add it?
[02:39] <keldon85> how do I get Ctrl+Tab to change desktops?
[02:46] <Ma1> ubotu : I can't get opengl working with hardware acceleration, it's just software with mesa
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I can't get opengl working with hardware acceleration, it's just software with mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Ma1> hey keldon
[02:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Ma1, thats a bod
[02:47] <Kr4t05> Ma1:  ubotu is only a bot and can't answer abstract questions.
[02:47] <Al> !libapache-mod-php5
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libapache-mod-php5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Ma1> i saw that
[02:47] <Al> :x
[02:47] <Al> !php
[02:47] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:47] <Al> argh there's a 2 in it
[02:47] <Al> haha
[02:48] <Al> how do I find the reason for a package to be kept back?
[02:48] <Ma1> keldon you have to create (or edit) your .inputrc file in your home dir
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Al, no idea
[02:49] <keldon85> hi ma1
[02:49] <Ma1> hi
[02:49] <Martijn81> anyone read the dns worries on vista already on cnet?
[02:49] <Martijn81> http://news.com.com/Will+Vista+stall+Net+traffic/2100-1016_3-6112338.html?tag=nefd.top
[02:50] <Martijn81> oops, wrong channel :o
[02:50] <Ma1> keldon85: this page may help you http://lfs.traduc.org/view/lfs-6.0-fr/chapter07/inputrc.html
[02:52] <naegling23> ok, so noone can help with that problem I guess....on to another.  Is there a way to save the audio delay in mplayer, so I dont have to manually adjust it all the time?
[02:52] <timi_> hey im trying to pari my phone with my computer via blue tooth, when the phone asks for passcodes does it want the user passowr or something
[02:54] <keldon85> thanks
[02:54] <keldon85> ok, going to relogin to try osx  styler docker
[02:55] <tony_> hello
[02:56] <tony_> anyone out there can help linux newbie ?
[02:57] <naegling23> is horrible multimedia support a linux problem, or is it just ubuntu
[02:58] <tony_> hello ?????????????
[02:58] <tony_> :)
[02:58] <naegling23> tony, what do you need?
[02:58] <timi_> how do you find out the bluetooth password for your computer?
[02:58] <tony_> hi.. i downloaded Amule for linux, how do i install that app ???
[02:59] <tony_> with dep file extension
[02:59] <Sanne> naegling23: this should answer your question at least partly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:59] <timi_> !bluetooth
[02:59] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:59] <naegling23> sanne ive been directed there about 47 times, it hasnt answered my problems, neither has this channel, or the ubuntu forums
[02:59] <tony_> Thanks , will take a look.
[03:00] <Sanne> tony_: amule is in the ubuntu repositories, you should use that if possible.
[03:01] <Sanne> naegling23: which questions didn't it answer in particular?
[03:01] <naegling23> its not getting the codecs and everything, I have those, but I cant record using line in, which is a major problem
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: recording using line and the codecs are two completely seperate problems
[03:02] <naegling23> and mplayer just wont sync audio and video, I can manually do it, but that doesnt help when watching web video
[03:02] <Sanne> naegling23: oh, that's a different issue indeed, I failed to guess from your initial message :)
[03:02] <naegling23> h3sp4wn, im fully aware of that, when I ask for help, I just get pointed to that restricted formats site on ubuntu
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: Have you installed w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs ?
[03:04] <naegling23> yes, they are both installed
[03:04] <tony_> ok. .in stalled the pakage using kubuntu package menu.. but where the app was installed ?
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: I would use kaffeine-mozilla for viewing web video (not mplayer-mozilla)
[03:04] <tony_> how do i run the app now ?:(
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: Have you looked in sudo alsamixer and moved all the channels up ?
[03:05] <naegling23> ive done alsamixer, but not sudo, would it make a difference?
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: nope
[03:06] <naegling23> the problem is, in alsamixer...and kmix, there is no input option for line in, only output
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: Are you using an onboard soundcard where that is set in software or something with hardware dedicated as a line in
[03:07] <naegling23> audigy2zs platinum
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> With a breakout box ? (I haven't used creative since I had an audigy 1 which I thought was junk)
[03:09] <naegling23> it has a breakout box, but the line in is on the pci card
[03:09] <naegling23> right next to the microphone port.....which works just fine
[03:11] <naegling23> so using adept, I installed kaffein-mozilla, and removed mplayer-mozilla, so that should be all I need to do right?
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> restart firefox
[03:11] <naegling23> sorry, juggling two problems
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: Does using the breakout box not override some of the ports on the pci card ?
[03:12] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: i have  1280 x 1024 going now..... someone in #ati looked at my x log, and told me that my video card did not have enough RAM built into it to handle that resolution along with 24 bit color... however, he said that if i reconfigured to 16 bit color, it would probably work, which it did.
[03:12] <jmichaelx> so far, oddly perhaps, i cannot tell the difference between the 24 bit color and the 16 bit
[03:12] <Sanne> tony_: usually it should turn up somewhere in your menu. Generally, you cn start most apps also on the command line by typing its name, so do: menu->system->konsole, and type in amule
[03:13] <Sanne> tony_: another way is hit ALT-F2 and type the program name into the run dialog
[03:13] <naegling23> the breakout box doesnt overide anything, it just adds additional ports
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: Ah makes sense - on lcd panels 16 and 24 bit color doesn't look much different (unless you have a super expensive one)
[03:14] <naegling23> anyone have any non flash based browser video that I can try kaffeine-mozilla out on
[03:14] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: interesting
[03:14] <tony_> Thanks.. i guess, i should buy a good book on linux.. this way i might figure where things are being installed
[03:15] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: thanks again for the help.... and i had not known there was an ati iirc room
[03:15] <Sanne> tony_: I would recommend some websites first for ubuntu, gimme a second
[03:16] <Sanne> tony_: https://help.ubuntu.com/   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:16] <Jucato> Sanne: I would actually redirect the wiki.ubuntu.com to https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: did he get dri working for you ?
[03:16] <Sanne> tony_: those should get you started, and try also the help item on your menu
[03:16] <tony_> thanks.. :) , i will try them :)
[03:17] <Sanne> tony_: and listen to Jucato :)
[03:17] <Jucato> heh :)
[03:17] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: no. he said that i would probably have to compile the module myself... which i would have no idea how to do
[03:17] <Sanne> tony_: good luck, and if you get stuck, just come here and ask :)
[03:18] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: I have no idea which module he means (unless he means the mach64 one)
[03:18] <tony_> i do appreciate.. im new to linux , this is my first install and i have few document on linux on older hard drive which i have to access soon :)
[03:18] <tony_> thanks Sanne :)..
[03:18] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: that may be what he means..... actually, i should have asked which module
[03:18] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: I don't know whether that exists on xorg > 6.9
[03:19] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: i was mostly concerned about the resolution, but since i normally cannot leave well enough alone, i want to look into this, lol
[03:19] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: i see
[03:19] <jmichaelx> i will need to go back and ask him
[03:20] <h3sp4wn> naegling23: According to the audigy 2 platinum spec i have been reading on the card itself are only 3 outputs - all inputs are on the breakout box
[03:21] <Sanne> tony_: oh, here's another nice link, specific to kubuntu, should help you also: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[03:22] <naegling23> there is a mic and a line in on the pci card.  On the breakout box: Spdif in/out, line in2 and aux in 2(rca)
[03:22] <naegling23> optical in/out, and midi
[03:23] <naegling23> now the mic on the pci card is recognised in kmix, but if I use this in mythtv, I get an echo.  Its recommended that I use my line-in, but when I connect to it...I get no audio
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> Why not just use aux in 2 ?
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> surely your equipment just outputs rca anyway
[03:23] <draik_> Hey, jmichaelx
[03:24] <draik_> I will be sending out tomorrow
[03:24] <draik_> Priority Mail
[03:24] <draik_> 2 business days
[03:24] <draik_> should be there by tuesday
[03:24] <jmichaelx> draik_: thank you so much, man!
[03:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> how can i make my system install the *-dev packages for all of the currently installed packages ?
[03:24] <draik_> np
[03:24] <jmichaelx> awesome
[03:25] <naegling23> Im trying to connect a tv card, so rca is not quite right, the aux2 port sounded horrible, as well as results in wires running needlessly around my case
[03:25] <jmichaelx> draik_: i am actually excited about getting it... i have a couple of old boxes i plan to revive :-D
[03:25] <draik_> :D
[03:25] <draik_> kew
[03:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> draik_, what are you sending?
[03:25] <draik_> Hope they have use for them, I don't
[03:26] <Jucato> hi draik_!
[03:26] <draik_> JUCATO!!!!
[03:26] <soulrider> is thre any way to downlaod a deb file fomt he repos but not actually install it?
[03:26] <draik_> You're alive!!!!!!!!
[03:26] <jmichaelx> draik_: they do
[03:26] <Jucato> lol
[03:26] <draik_> Telroth_Plushie|, you don't wanna know
[03:26] <draik_> lol
[03:26] <jmichaelx> lol
[03:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> soulrider, apt-get -d install <package>
[03:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> draik_, i don't ?
[03:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> aww :(
[03:27] <draik_> Telroth_Plushie|, I took the brain cells out from various cadavers and jmichaelx has use for them, I don't.
[03:27] <Sanne> soulrider: that, or manually from packages.ubuntu.com, for example
[03:27] <jmichaelx> dealing in cadavers....
[03:27] <draik> yup
[03:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> lol draik
[03:27] <draik> I'm the...
[03:28] <crash__> hey
[03:28] <jmichaelx> :-))
[03:28] <soulrider> ahh, thanks
[03:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> any help with my question?
[03:28] <soulrider> did a new kernel come out?
[03:29] <crash__> how do you download and install vlc player through terminal program?
[03:29] <Jucato> soulrider: yes
[03:29] <soulrider> sweeeeet
[03:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> (note to anyone listening, apt-get install .*dev will lag your console)
[03:29] <jmichaelx> sudo apt-get install vlc, i think
[03:29] <junkphreak> anyone use linux ghost / g4l ?
[03:29] <crash__> kthanks
[03:30] <crash__> no thats not it
[03:30] <Jucato> but still 2.6.15-26 actually
[03:30] <jmichaelx> hmmm
[03:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> CadaverPimp, do you know of any way to make my system install all of the -dev packages relating to the packages i already have installed?
[03:30] <CadaverPimp> nope, sorry
[03:30] <CadaverPimp> have you tried   sudo apt-get -f install?
[03:31] <naegling23> ugh, kaffeine is even worse than mplayer, this avenue isnt going to work out so hot
[03:32] <soulrider> Jucato: i read a bit of the ubuntu book i told you yesterday about
[03:32] <soulrider> and it looks like its a good one
[03:32] <Jucato> nice :)
[03:32] <naegling23> so are these issues that im having with audio (out of sync, cant record audio) ubuntu problems, or are they linux problems?
[03:33] <soulrider> ill send it if ya want :P
[03:33] <Jucato> soulrider: thanks. but maybe some other time. I think I have a backlog of about 10+ books to read :P
[03:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> CadaverPimp, that's not the problem. apt-get packages are all set up correctly, but i'm compiling UnrealIRCd
[03:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> so i have to get all the dev packages for ssl and zlib and stuff
[03:34] <CadaverPimp> http://www.draikunderlord.com/Compile.pdf
[03:34] <CadaverPimp> That's the "man" from the class given on compiling, from 2 weekends ago
[03:35] <CadaverPimp> Sorry for any lag I have... ktorrent is almost done downloading... about 5 more minutes
[03:35] <Ma1> I need help so muuucchh
[03:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> CadaverPimp, i've complied it plenty of times before, i just and having lots of fun finding the dev libraries i need ^^
[03:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> *am having
[03:36] <Ma1> Did anyone got ATI drivers for 9500+ series working?
[03:37] <Ma1> Please help me, I've been working on this all day
[03:38] <Fatb0y> have you followed a howto on how to set them up?  just asking the obvious
[03:38] <ubuntu> Leleobhz@freenode
[03:38] <Ma1> Yes sir..
[03:38] <Fatb0y> and what error are you getting?
[03:38] <Fatb0y> or can you just not start x?
[03:38] <Ma1> In fact I've been following a lots of them today
[03:38] <CadaverPimp> sorry that I can't help
[03:39] <Ma1> I can start X server but it is using damn mesa so there's no hard acceleration
[03:39] <Fatb0y> or can you start X but the ati driver is not initialing
[03:39] <Fatb0y> ahh
[03:39] <BluDog_Anchorite> ah.  the joys on nvidia
[03:39] <Fatb0y> then you have not got the driver installed correctly     in the drivers section what is your call? ati?   like i use nvidia
[03:40] <Fatb0y> nvidia and linux = NICE!
[03:40] <Ma1> umm wait a min please
[03:40] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  also, did you build the driver or are you using a packaged install driver?
[03:41] <Ma1> packeged driver both tried from ATI website itself and from easyubuntu
[03:41] <Fatb0y> and is the driver you are using on the kernel is was built for?
[03:42] <Fatb0y> meaning if the driver was built for 2.6.1  then are you using a 2.6.1 kernel
[03:42] <Ma1> Fatboy, my call is fglrx cause i'va been tweeking things alot but is was at some time "ati"
[03:42] <Fatb0y> just once again asking obvious questions
[03:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> hahahaha
[03:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> checking for gmake... make
[03:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> checking for gmake... no
[03:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> lol
[03:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> stupid system can't make up it's mind
[03:43] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  is the "tweaking" what is causing the issue then?   you should just be trying to get it working before "Tweaking" for instance
[03:43] <Fatb0y> gmake  the gnu make   apt-get install gmake :P
[03:44] <Jucato> I need help in sharing files/folders with XP on VMWare. absolutely no knowledge on networking/samba stuff here... :(
[03:44] <Ma1> Fatb0y i don't know, can you see for what version this driver is made https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=897&task=knowledge&folderID=3959?
[03:44] <Ma1> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=897&task=knowledge&folderID=3959 * ?
[03:44] <Fatb0y> let me fire up the browser  give me a sec
[03:44] <Ma1> alright
[03:45] <Fatb0y> and you have a radeon 8500?
[03:46] <Ma1> it says Linux kernel 2.4 or higher so i'm alight (no i have 9600xt)
[03:46] <Ma1> which I know it works
[03:46] <Fatb0y> k  one sec
[03:46] <Fatb0y> brb
[03:46] <Ma1> ok
[03:46] <ubuntu> oi
[03:47] <Fatb0y> `fglrxconfig` is no longer provided with the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Installer. To configure your display devices, use `aticonfig`.
[03:47] <Fatb0y> i remember you stated you were using flgrx
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> mmm clearlooks for GTK apps and klearlook for KDE. Can't tell the difference now :)
[03:47] <Fatb0y> did you read that right on the install howto?
[03:47] <D3ltaCain> hey
[03:47] <D3ltaCain> any one here?
[03:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> no
[03:48] <D3ltaCain> lol
[03:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> we're all phatoms
[03:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[03:48] <D3ltaCain> just checking
[03:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> *phantoms
[03:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> anything i can help with?
[03:48] <D3ltaCain> I have a fairly complicated problem think you can help?
[03:48] <Fatb0y> nope, no one here   if you will leave a message we will get back to you some day    please deposit 9,000,000 for the next minute
[03:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> D3ltaCain, i'll try
[03:48] <D3ltaCain> ok
[03:48] <Ma1> yes, i didn't tried to use fglrxconfig
[03:48] <D3ltaCain> so basically my friend got screwed over by windows
[03:48] <obf213> Help my computer doesnt restart
[03:48] <Fatb0y> so you did use aticonfig correct?
[03:49] <Ma1> I did the sudo aticonfig --initial
[03:49] <Fatb0y> Ma1, please stay with the convo if i am going to help   need some faster replies
[03:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> obf213, error?
[03:49] <D3ltaCain> he installed that update thing and so I tired formating his computer and installing kubuntu onm it
[03:49] <obf213> telroth it just shuts down
[03:49] <Ma1> yes correct
[03:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> obf213, error when restarting?
[03:49] <obf213> i dont know wht i did, i changed some of the init filles to not initialze
[03:49] <Fatb0y> agpgart is not active correct?
[03:49] <D3ltaCain> I dont know
[03:49] <obf213> telroth, no, it just shot down
[03:49] <obf213> like  hit restart, it shuts down
[03:49] <obf213> and doesnt turn back on
[03:49] <Ma1> i did a lsmod and didn't found it
[03:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> ick
[03:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> obf213, boot into recovery mode
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> from grub
[03:50] <Ma1> since i did not compiled my kernel i don't know if it was enabled
[03:50] <D3ltaCain> any ways basically my problem is kubuntu loads fine but than the screen goes into standby
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> D3ltaCain, ok, what's the problem currently ?
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> ah
[03:50] <D3ltaCain> when the log in screen should appear, no more message goes to the monitor
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> does it wake up when you wiggle the mouse?
[03:50] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  check your load config and be sure its not set to load on start or anything
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> ah
[03:50] <obf213> also Telroth, when i do want to shut down, it doesnt seem to stop anything anymore it just stops kdm and halts is that bad
[03:50] <D3ltaCain> I tried changing graphic cards but that didnt have any effect
[03:50] <D3ltaCain> he has 256mb ram
[03:50] <Fatb0y> thats one thing to make sure of
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> D3ltaCain, do you have the computer with you right now?
[03:50] <D3ltaCain> no
[03:50] <Sanne> Jucato: in Menu->Help, there's a section about samba in the server guide, maybe that could help you. there are also some pages about vmware on the wiki, though I don't know if they contain info about samba file sharing.
[03:51] <Ma1> where's the load config?
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> (i'm running kubuntu on a 128mb computer at 500mhz ;) )
[03:51] <D3ltaCain> I can also tell you though when you press the power button and hold it, kubuntu goes into terminal mode for a sec than goes through the proper close sequence
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> D3ltaCain, when you get to it
[03:51] <Fatb0y> check your init scripts to see what all is loading
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> log in until the screen does black
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> *goes
[03:51] <Jucato> Sanne: I tried the samba guide on the wikis. it presumes that I already have the network setup already... which I don't know how to do... :(
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> then press <Ctrl><Alt><F1>
[03:51] <D3ltaCain> what does that do?
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> switches to console login
[03:52] <D3ltaCain> I see
[03:52] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  also, have you uninstalled and reinstalled the driver just to make sure it installed correctly?
[03:52] <Sanne> Jucato: what do you mean, which network setup?
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> log in using the user
[03:52] <Ma1> I'm sorry but I don't know where they are..
[03:52] <D3ltaCain> yea
[03:52] <Ma1> yes
[03:52] <Ma1> there was 2 install options
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> then "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[03:52] <D3ltaCain> that's gonna be log for what?
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> look for any lines that start with (EE) that don't have to do with the /dev/wacom errors
[03:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> that's the log file for the X server
[03:53] <Fatb0y> did you install the driver while in X windows? and if so you got to see the ATI driver install GUI?
[03:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> the Xserver manages all of the GUI graphics
[03:53] <Ma1> one was distrib dedicated and the other was general or automatically gererated.
[03:53] <Fatb0y> did you choose AUTOMATIC install?
[03:53] <D3ltaCain> oic
[03:53] <Ma1> I tried both
[03:53] <D3ltaCain> sounds like a plan
[03:53] <obf213> !ram
[03:53] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  okay do this
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ram - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <D3ltaCain> from there whant kind of options would I have
[03:53] <Fatb0y> uninstall the driver you have loaded now
[03:53] <Ma1> Yes I got ATI GUI
[03:53] <Sanne> Jucato: with vmware you have a virtual network card, and if activated, your network should be "pysically" (virtually) functioning.
[03:53] <Fatb0y> and lets start from scratch
[03:53] <obf213> does anyone remember the website that explains how linux uses its ram
[03:53] <D3ltaCain> I mean as far as fixing goes
[03:53] <Jucato> Sanne: ah my bad, that was for the networking wiki... :(
[03:54] <Ma1> alright, thank you for your help, it is VERY appreciated
[03:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> D3ltaCain, i really don't know
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> lol alright
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> well any ways
[03:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> i can do a lot if i know what's wrong
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> at least I have an idea of how to troubleshoot now
[03:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> problem is i don't know exactly what's wrong
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> yea
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> well thanks a bunch
[03:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> if nothing is in the xserver file
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> I'm sure if I get into terminal I can do some more troubleshooting of my own
[03:54] <Jucato> Sanne: do you know which setting I should use fro the eth0 in VMWare? right now I'm using NAT because that's the only way I could have internet in VMWare...
[03:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> check /var/log/kdm.log
[03:54] <Jucato> Sanne: using VMWare Server, btw
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> ok
[03:54] <D3ltaCain> that would be the log for what?
[03:55] <lupine_85> Jucato: it runs a DHCP server by default
[03:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> (that's the k destop manager, aka the KDE login window)
[03:55] <D3ltaCain> yea
[03:55] <Jucato> (K Display Manager)...
[03:55] <D3ltaCain> well I tried xubuntu as well as ubuntu
[03:55] <Sanne> Jucato: I'm having file sharing working with win98 in vmplayer, but I'm not sure I remember everything I did. I don't think I have options for that in vmplayer? I will look, sec.
[03:55] <D3ltaCain> so I dont think the problem is kde
[03:55] <Jucato> (KDE Display Manager I mean...)
[03:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> D3ltaCain, /var/log/syslog.log may also be helpful
[03:55] <Jucato> Sanne: lucky you :)
[03:56] <D3ltaCain> already well once more thnaks for the help
[03:56] <D3ltaCain> I'll probably be able to go somewhere from there
[03:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> :)
[03:57] <Jucato> lupine_85 or Sanne: should I use Bridged, NAT, or Host only for networking to work?
[03:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> just trying to make the world a better place
[03:57] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  you there?
[03:57] <D3ltaCain> have a good night / day / morning ... depeding on your timezone . the wonders of the internet
[03:57] <Ma1> Yes
[03:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[03:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> i will, you too
[03:57] <lupine_85> I used Bridged + NAT
[03:57] <D3ltaCain> lol alright thanks
[03:57] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  did you uninstall the driver?
[03:57] <Ma1> I don't actully know how to unistall a driver
[03:57] <lupine_85> Host Only, IIRC, is where it can only network to the real PC
[03:57] <Ma1> and II'm shy to admit it
[03:57] <Fatb0y> read the HOWTO
[03:57] <Sanne> Jucato: what I remember: basically you have to do two things, put a workfroup name in the samba config file, and make a section for your shares. Then, you need to put the same workgroup name in your virtual windows. Somehow that got it working for me ;)
[03:57] <Fatb0y> its right in it
[03:57] <lupine_85> e.g. no IP forwarding
[03:58] <Fatb0y> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8-inst.html
[03:58] <Fatb0y> it says how to uninstall at the top
[03:58] <Fatb0y> i thought you had read this thing a few times and tried a few methods?
[03:58] <Sanne> Jucato: ok, my network card in vmplayer is set on NAT.
[03:59] <Jucato> Sanne: ah ok. thanks :)
[03:59] <Jucato> I'll try that... (hope I know what I'm doing, which I really don't...)
[03:59] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  #  With super user permissions, enter the command "sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh"
[03:59] <Sanne> Jucato: but I don't know if I have internet access from within windows... I don't need it so I didn't set it up.
[03:59] <Ma1> well in fact i was more conerned about installing this darn thing than uninstalling it
[04:00] <Jucato> Sanne: ah. you probably do, if you're using NAT :)
[04:00] <Ma1> they say that to go there /usr/share/fglrx but i don't have such dir
[04:00] <lupine_85> Jucato: NAT should work fine. If you've got a glut of public IPs, then you'd probably be able to get the vmnet interface created on the real PC to have a non-NATed IP; then the virtual PC could also have one
[04:00] <Fatb0y> Ma1,   well lets make sure you "INSTALLED" it correctly   so uninstall it and then lets do it right
[04:00] <lupine_85> I just used NAT :)
[04:00] <Fatb0y> Ma1,   for instance do you have a default xorg.conf file that has not been messed with?
[04:00] <Frederick> Does anyone here use magick wand or magick core lib?
[04:00] <Ma1> yes i have like 10 backups
[04:01] <Fatb0y> good
[04:01] <Ma1> ill restore the oldest
[04:01] <Fatb0y> restore the default xorg.conf before reinstalling the ati driver
[04:01] <Sanne> Jucato: Probably. But everytime I test, this darned MSN internet access thingy comes up, and I've got no patience for that ;). It's been awhile since I last installed windows...
[04:01] <Fatb0y> uninstall ati driver   restore default xorg.conf  reinstall driver   restart x and it just might work
[04:01] <Fatb0y> if you follow the howto correctly
[04:02] <Fatb0y> then all you need to tweak is display size maybe
[04:02] <poopybutt> i used to use pump to connect with debian, what is the ubuntu equivalent
[04:02] <Ma1> you mean that by default mese won't be used?
[04:02] <Ma1> mesa*
[04:02] <Fatb0y> not if you install the driver correctly no it wont
[04:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> poopybutt, for dhcp ?
[04:02] <Fatb0y> it will be the ati drivers in use
[04:02] <Ma1> ahh...
[04:03] <Ma1> but the call was to "ati"
[04:03] <poopybutt> Telroth_Plushie|: yeah
[04:03] <Fatb0y> great  thats probably what it should be
[04:03] <Ma1> but when i did fglrxinfo there was mesa
[04:03] <Fatb0y> have you uninstalled the driver yet?
[04:03] <Fatb0y> lets do one thing at a time
[04:03] <Fatb0y> uninstall driver  i gave you the command off the howto site
[04:04] <Fatb0y> then restore xorg.conf file   default
[04:04] <Ma1> ok but i have a problem.. the unistall file is just not on my system
[04:04] <Sanne> anyway, gotta sleep now, night all.
[04:04] <Fatb0y> then you will need to rebuild the driver
[04:04] <Telroth_Plushie|> poopybutt, kcontrol -> network connections -> administrator mode -> enter password -> select interface -> configure -> set to dhcp -> ok -> apply -> wait for it to reload the network
[04:04] <Fatb0y> the uninstall program is in /usr/share/flgrx
[04:04] <Ma1> rebuild means compile?
[04:04] <Fatb0y> so be sure you are in that folder before you run the command
[04:04] <Ma1> i don't have such directiry
[04:04] <poopybutt> Telroth_Plushie|: but what about on the command line?
[04:04] <Fatb0y> yes rebuild means to recompile but not before you uninstall
[04:05] <Fatb0y> navigate to /usr/share/flgrx
[04:05] <Ma1> lol ok..
[04:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> poopybutt, can't help you much there. GUI has spoiled me.
[04:05] <Fatb0y> from a terminal window of course
[04:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> poopybutt, i've always had the luck of having a gui program do dhcp for jme
[04:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> *me
[04:05] <Ma1> nothing
[04:05] <Ma1> i'm sorry
[04:05] <Ma1> I'm such trouble
[04:06] <Fatb0y> has to be there
[04:06] <Ma1> i swear it is not
[04:06] <Fatb0y> are you su'd to root or using sudo?
[04:06] <Ma1> sudo
[04:06] <Fatb0y> do sudo su root
[04:07] <poopybutt> how can i mount my drives to view them on the live cd?
[04:07] <Ma1> still not there
[04:07] <BluDog_Anchorite> poopybutt: what kind of hard drive
[04:07] <Fatb0y> do this   find / -name flgrx-uninstall
[04:07] <Ma1> couldn't i juste reinstall on it
[04:07] <Fatb0y> not adviseable
[04:07] <Ma1> ok
[04:07] <Mnabil> what is package for enable mp3 support in amarok ?
[04:07] <lupine_85> libxine-extracodecs
[04:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> poopybutt, use sudo to mount them like you normally would as if they weren't in /ect/fstab
[04:08] <Mnabil> ??
[04:08] <Ma1> it's searching...
[04:08] <Jucato> libxine-extracodecs from "multiverse". to enable multiverse follow this guide
[04:08] <Jucato> !repos
[04:08] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:09] <Ma1> nothing found
[04:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> Mnabil, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:09] <Fatb0y> Ma1,  are you sure you installed the drivers then?  the install package automatically (from their OWN hotwo) installs and uninstall packge
[04:09] <Fatb0y> for some reason i dont think the drivers are even installed on your system then
[04:10] <Mnabil> Telroth_Plushie|: LOL, OK :)  i just ask about the package name, not how to install :)   , but thanks a lot
[04:10] <Ma1> I'm shure I installed the drivers, I got the control panel from ATI in me menu entrie
[04:10] <Ma1> I'll try to rerun the installer to see if it ask me to uninstall
[04:11] <Fatb0y> it wont
[04:11] <Vanique> hi
[04:11] <Ma1> well if you think it's not..
[04:11] <Ma1> let's install it correctly
[04:11] <Fatb0y> i would do a custom install to be sure it selects to use XORG
[04:12] <Fatb0y> you did restore your xorg.conf file correct?
[04:12] <Ma1> i'm doing this right nowe
[04:13] <Ma1> ok
[04:13] <Ma1> it is restored
[04:13] <Ma1> i'll have to restart xserver though
[04:14] <Fatb0y> did you try this ?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[04:14] <Fatb0y> restart x and then  go to that web page
[04:14] <Vanique> Fatb0y: may i psg you ?
[04:14] <Fatb0y> msg me?  sure
[04:15] <Vanique> so check you priv
[04:15] <Vanique> ;)
[04:15] <Fatb0y> but i may not necessarily be the person with the most knowledge on a subject   its good to ask the channel
[04:15] <Fatb0y> okay
[04:15] <Fatb0y> ask your question
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Go ot bed!
[04:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech: er? it's almost 10:30 AM here :)
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Daskreech: Go to bed!!
[04:16] <Jucato> lol
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Corrected
[04:16] <poopybutt> does kubuntu not support mp3s out of the box?
[04:17] <CVirus> !restricted formats
[04:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:17] <CVirus> poopybutt: ^
[04:17] <DaSkreech> poopybutt: First Ewwwwww Second no it doesn't
[04:17] <poopybutt> not my fault most of the internet has songs in mp3 format
[04:17] <CVirus> poopybutt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:17] <Fatb0y> Vanique,   get to your question
[04:17] <DaSkreech> poopybutt: Oh No I'm not fighting mp3's Just your nick :)
[04:17] <Jucato> heh
[04:18] <Jucato> DaSkreech be nice :P
[04:18] <poopybutt> oh ok
[04:18] <DaSkreech> What? I'm not being mean
[04:18] <DaSkreech>  Just Honest
[04:18] <Vanique> Fatb0y: check you priv MSG
[04:18] <poopybutt> i dont care
[04:18] <Vanique> !!
[04:18] <Fatb0y> Vanique, kubuntu is a i386 release
[04:18] <poopybutt> thats the point of the name
[04:18] <Vanique> lol
[04:18] <Fatb0y> why would you expect to see i686 in your control panel?
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Good now that we understand each other
[04:18] <Vanique> so what shall i do if i have computer i686 ?
[04:19] <Fatb0y> umm Use it?
[04:19] <Vanique> but i see this there
[04:19] <Vanique> ;)
[04:19] <Vanique> [04:17]  <Vanique> System:  Linux
[04:19] <Vanique> [04:17]  <Vanique>   Release:  2.6.15-26-386
[04:19] <Vanique> [04:17]  <Vanique>   Machine:  i686
[04:19] <Vanique> look
[04:20] <Fatb0y> only mandriva i believe has an i586 or i686 release    if you want it built specifically for your kernel then you can built your entire system    have you tried Gentoo?  seeing how you have been using linux for 2 days i suggest you get used to the interface a bit before taking on that task.
[04:20] <Vanique> its quite strange because this PC is 5 years old or so
[04:20] <poopybutt> ok so it suggests to convert to ogg, which im not interested in doing
[04:20] <Fatb0y> Vanique, the questions you are asking are not making much sense.  i don't think you quite understand linux at all yet.
[04:21] <warpzone> homg I tried to start on Gentoo
[04:21] <Fatb0y> have you thought about reading some websites about the operating system?
[04:21] <Vanique> gentoo is too difficult for me
[04:21] <Vanique> ofcourse i dont
[04:21] <warpzone> I thought all linux was that crazy to set up and took days to compile
[04:21] <Vanique> i m runnin it 2 days !
[04:21] <Vanique> thats why i wanted someone to explain it
[04:21] <Vanique> ;
[04:21] <Vanique> )
[04:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> warpzone, only gentoo
[04:21] <Fatb0y> Vanique,   kubuntu is at this moment a bit above you but in time if you read a bit then you will get it    just READ
[04:21] <Vanique> okay, thanks
[04:21] <Vanique> :/
[04:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> warpzone, in truth it was until a few years ago
[04:22] <warpzone> Vanique: unofficial starter guide, wiki, IRC, forums... stick with this, it has all the help you can get
[04:22] <Fatb0y> Vanique,  Linux Operating systems for the most part are Free, but it is up to you (since you are getting such a great system for free) to learn a bit about it
[04:22] <poopybutt> ok, so after reading im still kind of confused on how to add mp3 support
[04:22] <Vanique> yes mate youre right
[04:22] <warpzone> Telroth_Plushie: I can't imagine. No wonder it's just now kicking off
[04:23] <Fatb0y> poopybutt,  apt-get install (the file you were told to install earlier)
[04:23] <Vanique> anyway asking junk questions here its a kind of getting knowlede, isinti t?
[04:23] <Vanique> :)
[04:23] <Fatb0y> umm no
[04:23] <Fatb0y> asking dumb questions will usually be ignored
[04:23] <Fatb0y> lol
[04:24] <Vanique> it depends on ppl, if you are here to help, you help not only in advanced cases
[04:24] <Fatb0y> if you took the time to download the installer then you can take the time to read a bit on the kubuntu website about the operating system and also google some info
[04:24] <Fatb0y> Vanique,   not all cases are "advanced"     depends on what you consider advanced
[04:24] <Vanique> ofocurse i can and i'm doing it too,
[04:24] <Vanique> okay, thanks anyway
[04:24] <Vanique> :)
[04:25] <Fatb0y> kubuntu is an Easy version of linux compared to many
[04:25] <Vanique> even if its easy its hard as hell for a very start
[04:25] <warpzone> yeah I'm still confused sometimes, like where programs get installed and how, stuff about the basic linux file setup
[04:25] <Fatb0y> i am an old slackware user for a long time   i still love slack but i don't have time to maintain it anymore so i moved to a more package driven operating system    kubuntu was a good choice
[04:26] <warpzone> Fatb0y: maintain? what kind of maintainence does Slackware require?
[04:26] <Vanique> Fatb0y: how many years do you use linux ?
[04:26] <poopybutt> i tried with apt-get says could not find package
[04:26] <DemonThing> I know this is slightly aside, but installing/using Gentoo taught me a hell of a lot about Linux.
[04:27] <poopybutt> but also im not completely sure what file to get, there was some contrasting info the multiple web pages
[04:27] <cpk2> warpzone: well you know, every once in a while you try to do something and realize you dont have some lib and then you have to go get it
[04:27] <Fatb0y> warpzone, it doesn't require much maintenance but it does require that you check the changelogs and download / install the updates yourself unless you use a third party installer like slack-pkg which i don't like or slapt-get which will break your system or swaret which will also do the same as slapt-get
[04:27] <Vanique> poopybutt: try to update repos
[04:27] <poopybutt> Vanique: i did
[04:27] <DemonThing> poopybutt: apt-get couldn't find - repositories? like universe/multiverse
[04:27] <warpzone> Fatboy: holy crap.
[04:28] <Fatb0y> warpzone,   off an on i have used linux a few years    now i use a macbook pro as my primary machine and a linux machine for storage but i also keep it up to date wiht a good card as it makes a good back up gaming machine if i want
[04:28] <Fatb0y> warpzone,   don't get me wrong    slack is a great operating system  but you have to be more hands on
[04:28] <Jucato> poopybutt: have you enabled the (correct) multiverse repository?
[04:28] <Jucato> !repos
[04:28] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:28] <Jucato> poopybutt: following that guide ^^^^
[04:30] <warpzone> oh, random question I'm having trouble with
[04:30] <omar> hi everybody
[04:30] <omar> i got a question
[04:30] <warpzone> is it possible to open another workspace that isnt running X? just the term?
[04:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> warpzone,
[04:31] <warpzone> hiya omar
[04:31] <Fatb0y> warpzone,   slackware 11 will release soon  about the time that gnome 2.16 will be about and since slackware does not support gnome in its official packages   dropline-gnome and other variants will have packages out at the same time for 11.0      would be good for you to try but don't think that X will be automatically configured for your full size display / etc.   you have to be as stated more hands on.
[04:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> there are already 6 running
[04:31] <Jucato> warpzone: you mean like Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6?
 where n is a number 1-6 ;)
[04:31] <Jucato> (Ctrl+Alt+F7 brings you back to X)
[04:31] <Fatb0y> warpzone, yes  control Fwhatever  that will switch you to a terminal then control F7 i think it is to get back to X
[04:31] <warpzone> hmm i think I do mean that! thanks!
[04:32] <poopybutt> does init 3 not work in ubuntu?
[04:32] <Fatb0y> in the inittab?
[04:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> looks like it would, haven't checked in depth
[04:32] <poopybutt> in console
[04:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> ubuntu's init levels are all screwed up though
[04:32] <cpk2> poopybutt: you dont use init
[04:32] <warpzone> Fatb0y: yeah I'll probably stick with kubuntu for a while longer until I'm more acclimated. Then who knows, maybe stick with it anyways
[04:32] <Fatb0y> if i remember reading the inittab file correctly in ubuntu many of them are all claimed as multi so i would say yes it does work fine
[04:33] <Fatb0y> warpzone, yeah  its a good linux distro
[04:33] <DaSkreech> poopybutt: did you sudo it?
[04:33] <cpk2> poopybutt: i believe its "sudo touch init-rc kdm stop"
[04:34] <Fatb0y> warpzone,   got a screen shot of your system?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Is there a way to mass create thumbnails or to shrink pictures?
[04:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> warpzone, kubuntu doesn't make for a good server, but of all the distro's i've tried, kubuntu takes the cream so far
[04:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> DaSkreech, use picasa to batch resize ?
[04:35] <warpzone> Fatboy: ehhhh give me a day to make it pretty, switched to KDE only a few days ago and it needs some makeup :-
[04:35] <poopybutt> is there an dist-upgrade in ubuntu?
[04:35] <Fatb0y> linux is linux   why would ubuntu not make a good server?
[04:35] <DaSkreech> picasa? Ay open source way?
[04:35] <DaSkreech> poopybutt: Yup
[04:35] <BluDog_Anchorite> Telroth_Plushie|: actually, its fine as a server.  apache gives me no issue
[04:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> BluDog_Anchorite, err, it sucks for compiling ;)
[04:36] <warpzone> Telroth_Plushie: glad I found it. and thanks all you guys for the help, part of what makes it so fantastical
[04:36] <BluDog_Anchorite> Telroth_Plushie|: as does any packaged distro
[04:36] <Fatb0y> brb
[04:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> warpzone, yw
[04:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> BluDog_Anchorite, nope. elive and knoppix both default with gcc and dev packages installed
[04:36] <Fatb0y> back
[04:36] <Fatb0y> :)
[04:37] <omar> hey guys please, do you know something about video capture card
[04:38] <warpzone> omar: never tried anything in that area, sorry man
[04:38] <Ma1> is it normal if i have 2 "device" sections in my xorg.conf file?
[04:39] <ep> What command line and also gui tools might i search a directory hierarchy for identically named files and list/sort them by size?
[04:39] <warpzone> Mal: do you have more than one video card?
[04:39] <omar> thanks anyways
[04:40] <omar> just one card
[04:40] <Ma1> no
[04:40] <omar> video capture, I used to watch TV with that
[04:40] <Ma1> umm,.. i have a mother video exit
[04:40] <Ma1> mother board*
[04:40] <warpzone> Ma1: that's what it's picking up then. one is the internal video, the other the video card
[04:41] <warpzone> omar: perhaps look at MythTV?
[04:41] <Ma1> but both are ati see
[04:41] <Ma1> Section "Device"
[04:41] <Ma1> 	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AR [Radeon 9600 XT] "
[04:41] <Ma1> 	Driver      "ati"
[04:41] <Ma1> 	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[04:41] <Ma1> EndSection
[04:41] <Ma1> Section "Device"
[04:41] <Ma1> 	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[04:41] <Ma1> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[04:41] <warpzone> omar: I believe it makes use of the TV-in, but dont know much more about it
[04:41] <Ma1> EndSection
[04:41] <DaSkreech> !paste
[04:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:41] <warpzone> Ma1: eeek, radeons and linux are a scary combo
[04:41] <Jucato> Ma1: please use pastebin next time. thanks :)
[04:42] <Ma1> ok its my first time sorry
[04:42] <warpzone> Ma1: but that second section is just the driver, dont worry
[04:43] <warpzone> Ma1: its fine unles you want direct rendering, then you're SOL unless ou can deal with some bugs/lockups
[04:43] <Ma1> there's 2 drivers "ati" and "fglrx"
[04:43] <Ma1> in fact i really need direct rendering. I do 3D motion pictures with Blender
[04:44] <warpzone> Ma1: ati is the open source driver, fglrx is ATI's proprietary driver
[04:44] <warpzone> Ma1: wonder which one is being used though :-
[04:44] <Ma1> ah ok
[04:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> warpzone, disable one, and force it to use a specific one ;)
[04:45] <warpzone> MA1: yeah I would just uninstall fglrx, just use the ati driver
[04:46] <Dink> Anyone got xgl working with cedega ?
[04:46] <Ma1> ok, but i'll try first to use thoses instructions http://xoomer.alice.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#install
[04:46] <warpzone> Ma1: no no no pleeeeease
[04:47] <warpzone> Ma1: there are some ubuntu specific instructions in the forums or wiki
[04:47] <warpzone> Ma1: but like I said, unless you are trying to use the S-video or direct rendering there is no need
[04:47] <warpzone> Ma1: and you'll have a slew of other problems instead
[04:48] <Ma1> but i found this on ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[04:48] <Homer> is there a way to convert Ubuntu 5.10 to Kubuntu 6.06 without a CD?
[04:48] <Ma1> in this page there's a link to the page i posted before
[04:49] <warpzone> Ma1: thats for Hoary, that was two releases ago :-P
[04:49] <Ma1> lol
[04:49] <Ma1> oops
[04:49] <warpzone> Ma1: you want stuff under Dapper Drake now :-P
[04:49] <Ma1> yes
[04:50] <Ma1> but i'll still try a restart of the xserver just to see what happens, brb
[04:50] <Ma1> if i can
[04:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, yes
[04:51] <warpzone> ooo man I feel his plight, I'll never buy another ATI card or laptop using ATI. bollocks to 'em
[04:52] <Homer> Admiral_Chicago, how?
[04:53] <Admiral_Chicago> in the run command type "gedit /etc/sources.list
[04:54] <Ma1> Ouch, didn't worked.. .I had to restore xorg.conf from console
[04:54] <Vanique> does any1 know why i cant play sound on youtube.com ?
[04:54] <Vanique> that videos are working but theres no sound
[04:54] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: *cough*kate*cough*
[04:54] <Ma1> i can't neither
[04:54] <warpzone> Vanique: because you're only using flash 7
[04:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, 5.1 Ubuntu to 3.06 Kubuntu
[04:54] <warpzone> flash 9 hasn't yet hit linux
[04:55] <Vanique> so it wont work ?
[04:55] <miyako> Vanique, sometimes the different sound servers clash with eachother, and that can cause problems
[04:55] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ah ok. lol
[04:55] <cpk2> Admiral_Chicago: kubuntu has gedit?
[04:55] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sorry I forgot the *U* part :D
[04:55] <warpzone> nope, not unless you install Firefox for windows in wine
[04:55] <Vanique> okay
[04:55] <Vanique> thanks
[04:55] <Ma1> gedit is GNOME
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk2, in theory you could install it iirc but its best to use kate
[04:55] <warpzone> a bit of a pain but Flash 9 should be out soon
[04:55] <Ma1> that's for the G
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, did you open it up?
[04:55] <warpzone> just in time for Flash 10, probably :-P :-P
[04:56] <Ma1> but a simple sudo apt-get install gedit will do i think
[04:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> (btw, KDE ftw! it runs on 128mb ram with a 500mhz pII)
[04:56] <cpk2> yes but without all the kde eyecandy =P
[04:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> (<insert general gnome-bashing here>)
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> it will but its got a ton dependecies
[04:56] <warpzone> Telroth_Plushie: are you serious? wow
[04:56] <miyako> I'm trying to decide between an iMac, a Mac Mini, building another PC, or just saving my money
[04:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> cpk2, no, with the eyecandy
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> miyako, i'd get a PC, put Linux on it
[04:56] <cpk2> oh, hmm
[04:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> with the default install from the 6.06 dapper cd
[04:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> ;)
[04:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> the gui is smooth too
[04:57] <miyako> Ademan, I already have a PC with Kubuntu, and if I get a mac it will dual boot OS X and Kubuntu
[04:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> there are lags when it reads stuff off of harddrive
[04:57] <miyako> possible triple boot OS X, Kubuntu, and SLED
[04:57] <warpzone> Ma1: no reason to install gedit, Kate will do the same
[04:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> (mainly because the harddrive is slow as crap)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> wowsers.. for a long time ktorrent was always stalling at 99.9% of a download.. then it started working.. now its back to stalling. :P
[04:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> but once it load an app, it runs nicely
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Joys.
[04:57] <Admiral_Chicago> some of these conversations can go it #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ANyone heard of such issues befor?
[04:58] <miyako> but nobody is in #kubuntu-offtopic :(
[04:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i am
[04:58] <Ma1> warpzone: Yes I know, he was wondering if he could. I'm actually using kate
[04:58] <Homer> Admiral_Chicago, I can't right now cause I'm performing updates
[04:59] <Homer> Admiral_Chicago, I think I'll just wait for Edgy Eft
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, but thats so far off
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> its not until October
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> besides Edgy won't be the most stable, its really a lot of cutting edge technology
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Dapper is the best
[05:00] <lupine_85> I've not noticed any stability problems :)
[05:00] <Homer> hehe
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> lupine_85, me neither
[05:00] <warpzone> alrighty I'm off, take it eeeeeeasy
[05:00] <Homer> I read the upgrade wiki
[05:00] <Homer> it looks too complicated
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> but if you read the release notes that Shuttleworth wrote
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, its so easy
[05:00] <Homer> ok ok what do I do
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> basically change everything that says Breezy to Dapper
[05:01] <Homer> lol.
[05:01] <Homer> so that is what a new version is?
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a find and replace tool and everything
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, it is the latest until mid October
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> then do a sudo apt-get updat && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, correction! "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> missed an 'e'
[05:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Admiral_Chicago, how does dist-upgrade differ from upgrade ?
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Telroth_Plushie|, its better for dependency issues
[05:05] <Homer> how the hell can apt update something I'm currently running
[05:05] <Homer> like it installed a new version of firefox while I am in firefox
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, because GNU/Linux is great
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> and the changes take affect the next time the program launchen
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> and you almost never have to reboot for a change to work like Windows
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> at most, you have to restart x
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> and you can do that with ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:07] <Homer> good stuff
[05:08] <Homer> it's dling updates now
[05:10] <jin> hello
[05:10] <DaSkreech> hi
[05:10] <CadaverPimp> Jucato
[05:11] <CadaverPimp> How goes it
[05:11] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: doing fine :)
[05:11] <Dink> ok who here want a tough question and i wont take its not possible for an answer :p
[05:11] <Telroth_Plushie|> Dink, try us
[05:11] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: how about you?
[05:11] <Telroth|Sleep> hurry though, i be leaving.
[05:11] <CadaverPimp> ehh
[05:11] <Dink> xgl, direct rendering and cedega =)... all working side by side as one happy family
[05:12] <Telroth|Sleep> well, i've got xgl+dri running on nvidia drivers
[05:12] <Telroth|Sleep> doesn't work for loading at boot though
[05:12] <Telroth|Sleep> i haven't messed with it much
[05:13] <Dink> i dont want 2 x sessions going to play a game :p
[05:13] <Telroth|Sleep> i think there's #xgl-compiz
[05:13] <Telroth|Sleep> which may be of use to you
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Telroth|Sleep, #ubuntu-xgl
[05:13] <Dink> hmm
[05:14] <Dink> ill give it a shot
[05:14] <Dink> just asked in #cedega but i guess everyoen is zzzz
[05:16] <cvt> how can i configure konqueror to always display files and folders in the tree column view permanently?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> cvt,  thats somthing ive never seen either.
[05:18] <Dink> you have to choice and save it as a profile i think
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> That makes sence
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> I had a profile set up once where i had a terminal at the bottom
[05:20] <Dink> in konqueror ... settings save profile
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. I remember seeing a lot more profiles in that menu befor
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> there used to be a 'mc' sort of looking one.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> KDE is amazing how flexiable it is
[05:21] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: those have been removed, for simplicity
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Bah!
[05:21] <Jucato> at least in Kubuntu
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Humbug! :p
[05:21] <Jucato> they could be restored
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> yea - i rember restoring them once.
[05:21] <Dink> if only cedega would work with it ... bastages
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Dink, i'm digging XGL too
[05:22] <Kr[4] t05> Can Ark open .7z natively?
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> but my panel is so cluttered
[05:22] <Dink> my num locks dont work :P
[05:23] <cvt> Dink,  thx
[05:23] <Jucato> anyone had any problems with the kernel updates earlier?
[05:23] <BluDog_Anchorite> havent booted to it yet
[05:23] <Jucato> oh :)
[05:23] <BluDog_Anchorite> you ?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> !7zip
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7zip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Kr[4] t05,  i  imagine it requires the 7zip bianries to be installed
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> since its just a front end
[05:24] <Kr[4] t05> Dr_Willis: Yeah, it worked.
[05:24] <Jucato> BluDog_Anchorite: no problem here. just want to check if it breaks X again
[05:25] <BluDog_Anchorite> Jucato: ok.  just wonder if you knew of an issue
[05:25] <Dink> no problem here but agian i use 2.6.17.13
[05:25] <Kr[4] t05> Hrm
[05:25] <Jucato> BluDog_Anchorite: heh. was wondering if there was an issue. after what happened the last time :)
[05:25] <Kr[4] t05> Would updating the kernel from the edgy reps cause any forseeable problems?
[05:26] <BluDog_Anchorite> on a stable install, probably
[05:26] <Jucato> Kr[4] t05: if you're on Dapper?
[05:26] <Kr[4] t05> Bah... ><
[05:27] <Dink> why dont you just compile your own kernel
[05:27] <Kr[4] t05> Dink: Everytime I do, X breaks. ><
[05:27] <Dink> it really shouldnt
[05:27] <Dink> great howto on the ubuntu forum
[05:28] <Dink> what breaks x is updating your kernel via apt-get ;)
[05:28] <Dink> j/k
[05:31] <CadaverPimp> Hello everyone
[05:31] <CadaverPimp> How can I convert VCD to DVD?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> heh.. done that with nero. :P and edads they looked nasty!
[05:32] <CadaverPimp> hmmm
[05:32] <CadaverPimp> linux has nero?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> I did it on my windows box. using the nero video tools
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> there is a nero-linux out.. but it cant do much
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> those were the first vcd's id ever messed with. :) and proberly the last
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> but my dvd player does play the vcd disks i found out.
[05:33] <CadaverPimp> mine plays them as well, I just thought maybe I'd like to have them as DVD
[05:33] <CadaverPimp> If it's not broken, don't fix it... I suppose
[05:33] <Dink> philips dvd players... plays it all 50$ =)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> I managed to put the 2 vcd movie onto one dvd.. and got the chapters backwards
[05:34] <CadaverPimp> LOL
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> The new dvd players can even play divx i hear.
[05:34] <CadaverPimp> yup
[05:34] <Dink> put about 3/4 vcd on a dvd and you good to go
[05:34] <CadaverPimp> they play them all
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> too bad i go tall these .ogg and .vmk and other  files
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> i need to learn how to use ffmpeg and transcode someday
[05:35] <CadaverPimp> I heard about someone trying to put 2 dvds on a dual layer so that you can have 1 main menu that would ask "Which DVD?" and then to the sub menu, which was the movie's main menu
[05:35] <Dink> speaking of vcd going to watch illusionist :P later
[05:35] <CadaverPimp> I used ffmpeg once or twice
[05:35] <CadaverPimp> but that's about it
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> i convert things to play on my psp
[05:36] <CadaverPimp> I was following the instructions from LinuxJournal Magazine
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> got a useabel  tool/front end for linux now for that task.. but its lacking in ways
[05:36] <CadaverPimp> !ffmpeg
[05:36] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB
[05:36] <CadaverPimp> hmmm, no links
[05:37] <unix_infidel> does anyone here have an ob3 dot files that are incur similar functionality to fluxbox?
[05:38] <CadaverPimp> Maybe this could help
[05:38] <CadaverPimp> http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialVideo.html
[05:39] <CadaverPimp> I was just noticing my name and thought about something... I want to be a mortician (sp?)
[05:39] <Kiongku> hmm kubuntu upgrading kernel version?
[05:39] <CadaverPimp> I wonder if monster.com and careerbuilder.com could have something like that
[05:39] <Jucato> Kiongku: yep
[05:39] <Kiongku> Jucato: did u already upgrade?
[05:40] <Jucato> Kiongku: yep
[05:40] <Jucato> working fine here
[05:40] <CadaverPimp> Jucato, I heard something about a .47 and .48. What's that all about?
[05:40] <Kiongku> Jucato: k.. doing mine now
[05:40] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: the security patches for the kernel
[05:40] <CadaverPimp> Re: Kernel upgrade
[05:40] <CadaverPimp> how can I tell if I have the newest one?
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> when I boot my computer, it doesn't boot and i keep getting beeping from the Mobo
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> what can the problem be?
[05:41] <CadaverPimp> depends on the beeps and where it freezes up on you
[05:41] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: from Adept
[05:41] <CadaverPimp> no CLI, Jucato?
[05:41] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: of course there is :)
[05:41] <CadaverPimp> Please do tell
[05:42] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:42] <CadaverPimp> UGH... how did I know that was coming
[05:42] <Jucato> :P
[05:42] <CadaverPimp> I am getting errors from Seveas's server
[05:42] <CadaverPimp> on update
[05:42] <Jucato> hm...
[05:42] <CadaverPimp> and from ftp.free.fr  as well
[05:43] <cpk2> Admiral_Chicago: look up your motherboard documentation
[05:43] <Kiongku> Jucato: u know the actual kernel version :P?
[05:43] <cpk2> and find out what the beeps mean
[05:44] <Jucato> it's just a patch to the current 2.6.15-26 kernel. not a new kernel actually
[05:44] <CadaverPimp> nevermind, seveas's server is ok
[05:44] <CadaverPimp> 404 from Seveas ???
[05:44] <Kiongku> Jucato: :(.. it installs separately right?
[05:44] <Jucato> AFAIK, nope
[05:44] <CadaverPimp> ftp.free.fr        gives me Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[05:44] <Jucato> it's not a new kernel
[05:44] <Kiongku> Jucato: hmm ._o .. bcoz i'm currently on my custom kernel.. not the default one.
[05:45] <Jucato> ah
[05:45] <Jucato> hm... that complicates things...
[05:45] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: try ping'ing the ftp?
[05:45] <CadaverPimp> nah
[05:45] <CadaverPimp> I'm just going to hash them from my sources.list
[05:45] <Kiongku> Jucato: doh.. synaptic tells me its upgrading the default one.. i guess it should be alright
[05:45] <Jucato> :)
[05:46] <Jucato> ok
[05:46] <Kiongku> Jucato: anyway whats up... any interesting things :P?
[05:46] <Jucato> Kiongku: you would know if a kernel will be installed separately if it's marked as "install" rather than "upgrade" in Adept
[05:46] <Jucato> um... security stuff... I don't know the details, though
[05:46] <Kiongku> Jucato: i think so
[05:47] <Kiongku> Jucato: btw did u add a firewall yet XD?
[05:47] <CadaverPimp> Penguin Liberation Front (packages)  is what gives me issues
[05:47] <Jucato> lol no :)
[05:47] <Kiongku> Jucato: ._. hmm
[05:47] <Jucato> probably next month in Edgy :P
[05:47] <Kiongku> gimme ur ip address i wanna do something :p
[05:47] <CadaverPimp> edgy released next month?
[05:47] <Jucato> :P
[05:48] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: Oct 26 target date
[05:48] <CadaverPimp> sweet
[05:48] <CadaverPimp> my ip address is... 127.0.0.1  That always points to me!!! :p
[05:48] <Kiongku> hahahqa
[05:48] <Kiongku> 75.80.30.108
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> "anyone got a Fast Quake Server" (asked years ago all the time) - we would reply. try /server 127.0.0.1
[05:49] <Kiongku> ?
[05:49] <Kiongku> CadaverPimp: is that ur ip :P?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Then the guy would say AWSOME ping! but no one is on it!
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:49] <Jucato> lol
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk2, thanks
[05:49] <das-q> Jucato: now you know it
[05:50] <CadaverPimp> would seem that way
[05:50] <CadaverPimp> usually isn't though
[05:50] <Kiongku> hmm why?
[05:50] <CadaverPimp> usually 83.x.x.x
[05:50] <Kiongku> ah
[05:50] <josef> hai guys give me a name of good firewall that i can install
[05:50] <CadaverPimp> guarddog
[05:50] <CadaverPimp> !firewall
[05:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:50] <CadaverPimp> firestarter is another
[05:51] <Admiral_Chicago> josef, Linux...
[05:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: 210.213.192.207.. ._. ?
[05:51] <Jucato> huh?
[05:51] <CadaverPimp> your IP address Jucato
[05:51] <josef> ok thanks everybody.... I just keep on learning kubuntu..hehehe
[05:51] <Jucato> i dunno :P
[05:51] <CadaverPimp> that's your IP
[05:52] <Kiongku> Jucato: type ifconfig in shell :P
[05:52] <CadaverPimp>  easy trick to just /whois <nick>
[05:52] <Kiongku> XD
[05:52] <Jucato> yeah
[05:52] <Kiongku> CadaverPimp: try find mine :D
[05:52] <Jucato> it just changes everytime I reconnect
[05:52] <Kiongku> Jucato: same here
[05:54] <cpk2> Admiral_Chicago: you figure out what your mobo is saying yet?
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm in the middle of a million conversations
[05:55] <Kiongku> Jucato: hmm ._o i need 17 route hops to get to ur pc
[05:55] <Kiongku> *router
[05:55] <Jucato> Kiongku: don't even try :P
[05:55] <Kiongku> Jucato: ?_?
[05:56] <Jucato> I have chat logs :)
[05:56] <Kiongku> Jucato: lol :P?
[05:56] <Jucato> documenting your "attempt"
[05:56] <Kiongku> i just tried tracepath <Jucato's ip>
[05:56] <Kiongku> XD
[05:56] <Jucato> heh
[05:57] <Kiongku> u know whats that command?
[05:57] <Jucato> nope
[05:57] <Kiongku> it just traces how many routers a packet transmitted from my pc has to take to reach urs
[05:58] <Jucato> ah
[05:59] <Kiongku> lalala.. i'm no hacker... i can't even program ._.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. freaky. OS-X x86 version running in vmware. :P
[06:00] <Jucato> SSssssssSSSsss....SSSssssss
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Moo! moo! moO
[06:00] <Kiongku> Waf waf!!?! WAF
[06:00] <Jucato> heh Dr_Willis doesn't not have super cow powers :P
[06:03] (Dr_Willis/#kubuntu) Not sure if its GPL free..
[06:03] (Kiongku/#kubuntu) Dr_Willis: oh its very clear... i just cant atatch windows stuff with free :p
[06:03] (Jucato/#kubuntu) Kiongku: it's not from MS
[06:03] (Dr_Willis/#kubuntu) :)
[06:03] (Jucato/#kubuntu) "FreeDOS is a complete, free, 100% MS-DOS compatible operating system."
[06:04] (Kiongku/#kubuntu) Jucato: ehrm right.. MS-Dos is windows..
[06:04] (nikkiana/#kubuntu) random general question.... how long does it usually take before a new version of something is put in the repository?
[06:04] (Dr_Willis/#kubuntu) nikkiana,  every 6 mo everything gets updated
[06:04] <Kiongku> nikkiana: the time it needs to be broken by one of us?
[06:04] <Jucato> yes. but "MS-DOS compatible" doesn't mean "from MS"
[06:05] <Kiongku> :p hurray for all the hackers that is for the door
[06:05] <CadaverPimp> Jucato, I agree with you... such as WINE
[06:05] <Jucato> :)
[06:06] <Kiongku> Why did Bill "GATES" opt for a stupid thing called "WINDOWS" .
[06:06] <nikkiana> Dr_Willis, so i assume that would mean that the newest version of f-spot will not like show up in there for awhile?
[06:06] <Jucato> Kiongku: well, it didn't start out to be stupid. Like it or not, Windows revolutionized computing on the PC
[06:06] <Kiongku> nikkiana: right ont he spot..
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> nikkiana,  Bingo
[06:06] <nikkiana> drats.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm.. I got a qemu harddrive.img file.. but i want to make vmware use it. :(
[06:07] <Jucato> nikkiana: unless a dev decides to "backport" a new version. but it will not be officially supported in Dapper if that happens
[06:07] <Kiongku> Jucato: doh..
[06:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: did u need to restart to use new kernel?
[06:08] <Jucato> Kiongku: yes. like any/all kernel upgrades :)
[06:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: bah i wunt restart for a while :p
[06:09] <Jucato> Kiongku: heh no one's forcing you to :P
[06:09] <Kiongku> Darn.. i want to access my windows hard disk
[06:09] <nikkiana> i guess i have a problem then.... :-(
[06:09] <Kiongku> Jucato: heh any idea how to go in my windows hard drive without goign back to win?
[06:09] <CadaverPimp> How can I make sure the my computer is set up to use 6-channel audio, rather than 2-channel or such?
[06:10] <Jucato> Kiongku: mount the partition?
[06:10] <Jucato> Kiongku: just remember NTFS = read only; FAT32 = read/write
[06:10] <Kiongku> Jucato: .. so simple to say.. how i mount it -_-
[06:10] <nikkiana> cause f-spot currently won't work.... and the new version depends on updated versions of other stuff that hasn't been updated in the repository either.
[06:10] <Jucato> !ntfs
[06:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:11] <Kiongku> nikkiana: want a hammer too?
[06:11] <Jucato> Kiongku: ^^^
[06:11] <nikkiana> is there a spot where you can see logs of when you downloaded stuff?
[06:11] <nikkiana> or does anyone know off hand if mono was updated in the repository recently?
[06:11] <Jucato> nikkiana: /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:12] <Jucato> or dpkg.0.log or dpkg.1.log... depends on how old or far back you want to look
[06:13] <Jucato> er... dpkg.log.1 dpkg.log.2... sorry about that :)
[06:14] <Jucato> nikkiana: nope, no update for mono afaik
[06:15] <jin> anyone here know how to start proftpd? i was shutting the server using ftpshut
[06:20] <LeeJunFan> jin: /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[06:20] <LeeJunFan> ?
[06:20] <jin> but it doesnt work
[06:20] <jin> i tried many times
[06:20] <jin> i even search in google and none is working
[06:20] <jin> T_T
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> care to elaborate on what it is doing whatn you use that /etc/init.d line?
[06:23] <Ma1> hey, how can i know the bus identifier of my video  card Like PCI:1:0:0 ??
[06:23] <Kiongku> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/windows busy
[06:23] <Kiongku> wth..
[06:24] <jin> kinongku: try lspci
[06:24] <Kiongku> jin: ?
[06:24] <jin> ya
[06:24] <Ma1> that's what i get : 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]  (Secondary)
[06:24] <jin> command from the terminal
[06:24] <jin> lspci
[06:25] <Kiongku> i did
[06:30] <Kiongku> darn my file system is hpfs/ntfs
[06:30] <Kiongku> hmm
[06:33] <Kiongku> !hpfs
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hpfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <CadaverPimp> How can I make sure the my computer is set up to use 6-channel audio, rather than 2-channel or such?
[06:35] <ep> How do I determine my current screen resolution and how do i change it? Seems like this should be in 'system settings' but I cant find it.
[06:35] <Kiongku> CadaverPimp: Kmix?
[06:36] <Kiongku> ep: system settings/display?
[06:38] <ep> Kiongku: not there, i got 4 categories Hardware, System Administration , Internet, and Personal and none of them have a "display' sub-category.
[06:40] <CadaverPimp> KiongKu, thank you. That worked. I had a feeling it was on 2-ch... audio was pretty shot
[06:46] <Kiongku> ep: strange should have been udner hardware
[06:51] <ep> seems its a  kubuntu bug, according to a forum post or two
[06:53] <intelikey> how can a process be made imutable ?
[06:55] <intelikey> howto make $PID immutable ?
[06:58] <Kiongku> whast immutable o0
[06:58] <unix_infidel> intelikey: as i understand it pid's are assigned during init.
[06:59] <unix_infidel> i'm not sure you can make pid's immutable.
[06:59] <intelikey> not the pid the process.
[06:59] <Kiongku> hmm does linux has an equivalent to disk defragmenter?
[07:00] <unix_infidel> Kiongku: you dont need one.
[07:00] <unix_infidel> immutable processes?
[07:00] <Kiongku> unix_infidel: when linux do scan disk on boot up.. i see % fragmented files i think
[07:00] <unix_infidel> Kiongku: that's during startup, that's negligible fragmentation.
[07:01] <Kiongku> ._.
[07:01] <unix_infidel> we dont do win32 like filesystems here.
[07:01] <unix_infidel> are systems are fast and require little maintainence.
[07:01] <unix_infidel> our*
[07:01] <intelikey> Kiongku ext2 will show the % non-contiguous
[07:02] <intelikey> highest i have ever seen was 5%
[07:03] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:03] <Kiongku> is there a comamnd to check it directly on shell?
[07:03] <Vanique> can someone remind me the name of wondows fonts ?
[07:03] <Vanique> so i can get it
[07:03] <intelikey> Kiongku normal is more like .3%
[07:03] <Kiongku> wondows?
[07:04] <Vanique> windows:)
[07:04] <intelikey> Kiongku fsck
[07:04] <Vanique> or corel , well the mos popoular, please
[07:04] <Kiongku> intelikey: thx
[07:04] <Kiongku> intelikey: ahh.. cannot perform on mounted drive... later i'll do it then
[07:04] <intelikey> Kiongku man e2fsck
[07:05] <intelikey> that's the app used by fsck     and you can check mounted but you have to be careful not to commit changes to disk
[07:06] <intelikey> i.e. a read only check
[07:06] <Kiongku> ah
[07:06] <Kiongku> well nvm :p thx.. i'll do it next time
[07:06] <intelikey> np
[07:07] <intelikey> so anyone know of a way to make a process immutable ?
[07:15] <unix_infidel> hey guys, i'm thinking about putting a couple of windows images on a NFS share on a linux server, and i'm planning on using ntfsclone.
[07:15] <unix_infidel> anyone with any experience doing a backup system like this, automating ntfs clone and MAYBE using gzip to compress along with it.
[07:16] <ep> I fixed kcontrol's missing display module with this hack: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4373.msg17167#msg17167
[07:17] <Jucato> ep: it's not a bug, btw.
[07:17] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[07:17] <unix_infidel> !ntfsclone
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsclone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <flaccid> !recover Jucato
[07:17] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[07:17] <Jucato> it's going to be the default, it seems. the Display module will only be accessible through KControl or System Settings
[07:18] <Jucato> flaccid: nice :)
[07:18] <ep> Jucato: ok i was only quoting a forum post, why was it missing?
[07:18] <flaccid> not really... never comes up with anything
[07:18] <Jucato> ep: it's not missing. it has been moved
[07:18] <ep> to where?
[07:19] <Jucato> ep: System Settings or KControl
[07:19] <Jucato> ep: it will no longer be shown when you right-click > Configure Desktop
[07:20] <flaccid> what is it?
[07:20] <ep> Jucato:  thats the two places i couldn't find System settings and kcontrol.  It was missing.
[07:21] <flaccid> oh i see
[07:24] <Jucato> ah
[07:25] <flaccid> gosh i'm so good at making pizza
[07:25] <Jucato> grrr don't make me crave for one...
[07:25] <flaccid> i need to put um my recipe one day
[07:25] <flaccid> hehe
[07:25] <flaccid> on the interweb
[07:25] <Jucato> heh
[07:27] <flaccid> now all thats left is to get beer
[07:28] <Jucato> heh
[07:28] <Jucato> don't make me crave for that one too :P
[07:29] <flaccid> ok
[07:29] <flaccid> how about some lard?
[07:29] <Jucato> er....
[07:42] <weedar> For some odd reason my viewport is bigger than my screen resolution (again), but to add injury to insult I can only choose between 1280x1024 and 640x480
[07:43] <jpiccolo_> which way do i want to nice something to give it low pority
[07:55] <jared777> Reality show where they ask a blonde to replace a CPU I would of killed the bitch  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY_CidIS8YM&eurl=
[07:56] <unix_infidel> they had something similar in the states
[07:56] <jared777> Did they?  I just saw that on Digg and died laughing
[07:57] <unix_infidel> the american version had hotter women :)
[07:57] <Jucato> Beauty and the Geek?
[07:57] <unix_infidel> yea
[07:58] <jared777> if you know where a clip is I would love to see it but i doubt they could beat her stupidty.. She couldn't grasp the concept of INSIDE the computer and thought the monitor was the PC
[07:58] <Jucato> I think unix_infidel meant that there's a show like that in the US...
[07:59] <Jucato> well, if she was used to a Mac...
[07:59] <jared777> oh thought they had a similar segment
[07:59] <jared777> shudder imac
[07:59] <unix_infidel> macs are so sexy on the inside.
[07:59] <jared777> but i have known alot of PC users that think the monitor is the PC
[08:00] <Jucato> macs have their CPU and the monitor in one unit, right?
[08:00] <jared777> imacs did i believe
[08:00] <jared777> and that horrible one button mouse
[08:00] <Jucato> lol
[08:00] <chris___> yeah :) if the monitor isnt working anymore , you can throw away the whole box :P
[08:01] <jared777> lol
[08:02] <jared777> just watch the video
[08:07] <jared777> Btw LOVE the distro first one I like well enough i relplaced windows with it
[08:16] <rredd4> need help with kguitar.  When I open a gp4 file and play it, it says:  error opening midi device.  I have libtse2 installed.  any ideas please
[08:18] <rredd4> libtse2 = libtse3
[08:29] <rredd4> kguitar users, need help please.  When I open a gp4 file and play it, it says:  error opening midi device.  I have libtse3 installed.
[08:38] <chrisoverly> how do you mount another hard drive
[08:39] <chrisoverly> its NTFS
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> chrisoverly, sudo mount /dev/drive /location
[08:40] <chrisoverly> thanks so much
[08:40] <Jucato> !ntfs
[08:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> chrisoverly, ignore ll that
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> just edit your fstab
[08:40] <chrisoverly> how do you do that
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> chrisoverly, go to /mnt and create a folder called ntsf
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> so it'll be /mnt/ntsf/
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> then open up a terminal and type sudo fdisk -ls
[08:43] <chrisoverly> we want to keep our partitions as they are
[08:43] <chrisoverly> no fdisk for me thanx
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> chrisoverly, this will list your partition
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> not edit them
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> or you can check out the man page and under options you will see fdisk -l will "List  the  partition  tables  for the specified devices and then exit"
[08:47] <ArvineClone> hey, anybody here had luck getting XGL working?
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> ArvineClone, i did
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> ask in #ubuntu-xgl if you need trouble shooting
[08:48] <ArvineClone> thanks
[08:51] <jaime01> k
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> chrisoverly, do you want to save the trouble of mounting the drive every time the computer boots?
[08:51] <jaime01> por favor alguien que me ayude con ubuntu
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[08:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:14] <rredd4> which version of kde is with kubuntu?
[09:15] <Jucato> Kubuntu Dapper ships with KDE 3.5.2
[09:15] <Jucato> Kubuntu Edgy will ship with KDE 3.5.4
[09:15] <rredd4> ty
[09:16] <emonkey> rredd4, there are packages of kde 3.5.4 for Dapper Drake avalaible
[09:17] <emonkey> so you can update Dapper from 3.5.2 to 3.5.4
[09:17] <MuJ> yes, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[09:18] <MuJ> hmm.. it wasn't question but.. oh well
[09:19] <emonkey> especially CF-Cards
[09:20] <rredd4> emonkey  synaptic?
[09:21] <Jucato> ... or Adept, which is the default package manager GUI in Kubuntu
[09:21] <rredd4> 3 5 2 is ok with me, just wanted to know which version dapper had.......... ty
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> emonkey, yes
[09:22] <Jucato> :)
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> check kubuntu.org
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> actually hold on
[09:22] <Orin> hello! i want to get all .deb packages, wich i  installed but no saved in the cache/apt/arhives. is it real?
[09:22] <Jucato> except that you have to do dist-upgrade for KDE 3.5.4 rather than plain upgrade
[09:22] <rredd4> Jucato  from dapper?
[09:23] <Jucato> rredd4: yes. but anyway, if you're not interested to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 you should be ok
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[09:23] <rredd4> yup
[09:23] <Jucato> rredd4: upgrading to 3.5.3 can be done with normal upgrade
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> that link will help you update to 3.5.4
[09:24] <rredd4> i am trying to get midi working with kguitar,
[09:24] <rredd4> needed to know what version of kde i had
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> actually i think the distro after edgy will use KDE 4 out the box
[09:24] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: only if KDE 4 stable is released before April
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> but there is a development package for KDE4 in edgy
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> so you can install KDE4 alongside KDE3 and use either of them
[09:25] <Jucato> rredd4: you can check which version of KDE you are using by going to the Help menu of any KDE app and selecting "About KDE"
[09:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: yep. but basically it's really just for developers/programmers/curious people (like us?)
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i predict two updates past Edgy will use KDE4 with amazing art/stability
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> like Dapper is the best of Ubuntu so far
[09:26] <Jucato> hopefully :)
[09:26] <rredd4> Jucato  ahh i see, thanks!
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i'm tempted to use it but I just got compiz to work so i'm not going to mess around
[09:27] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: use what? KDE 4 on Edgy?
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[09:27] <Jucato> heh actually there's nothing to use there
[09:27] <Jucato> unless you really prefer to run Kate and Konsole in KDE 3.80.1 :)
[09:28] <Jucato> but basically, nothing noticeable from a user's point of view
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> icons and text...
[09:28] <Jucato> not even
[09:29] <Jucato> er.. text probably for the About <App> and About KDE
[09:30] <Jucato> KDE 3.80.1 or KDE 4 development preview, a.k.a. Krash, is more of an "it's alive!" thing
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, no hold on
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> you have to see this
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, can't find the link
[09:33] <Jucato> link about?
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/57
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> if you open up konq you will see buttons or text
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> never both in one icon
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> KDE4 will change that
[09:37] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: even Riddel can't open up Konqi in KDE4
[09:37] <Jucato> we've been trying, though
[09:37] <Jucato> seems like Hawkwind's the only one who's been lucky enough to do that
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, no konq in 3.5
[09:38] <Jucato> Actually, you can have buttons under text even in KDE 3.5... in one button
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i was using a status vs future
[09:38] <Jucato> ah
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you know more than me apparently
[09:38] <Jucato> but they did fix the size of the buttons
[09:39] <Jucato> well, at least some did...
[09:40] <Jucato> but so far (aside from Umbrello), the only things that run in KDE 4 properly are Kate and Konsole
[09:40] <aseigo> whether or not konqi opens when using kde4's code base depends on the day of the week
[09:40] <Jucato> aseigo: heh :)
[09:40] <aseigo> things are changing pretty rapidly from day to day and sometimes things that were working don't
[09:40] <aseigo> and vice versise
[09:41] <aseigo> kicker runs fine, kwin runs
[09:41] <Jucato> aseigo: yes, but using the packages Riddel provided, konqi doesn't lunch
[09:41] <Jucato> er... launch
[09:41] <aseigo> numerous other apps are doing alright to various degrees... kjots works afaik
[09:41] <aseigo> ah .. yeah... packages. =)
[09:41] <aseigo> those are really designed more for app developers porting their apps than people trying to run apps ;)
[09:42] <Jucato> aseigo: heh... I've been trying to tell people that...
[09:42] <Jucato> problem is, once they saw the announcement... :)
[09:42] <Jucato> well, let's just say that people are really excited about KDE 4 :P
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, you know about upstart
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> i think thats what it is called
[09:43] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: the new init system?
[09:44] <Jucato> aseigo: btw, kde-look already has a section reserved for plasmoids. talk about anticipation :P
[09:44] <aseigo> indeed
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, yes
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> it is looking real cool
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i can't wait for it
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> is it going to be in Edgy?
[09:45] <Jucato> well, it's in Edgy now
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> really? i'm on Knot 3 and i haven't noticed anything
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> probably because the boot screen is still not fixed
[09:45] <Kiongku> !edgy
[09:45] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:45] <Jucato> all I know about it is that 1) it will replace sysvinit, 2) there won't be much, if not any, noticeable difference now, and 3) it will be improving in the long run
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, the idea is pretty interesting
[09:46] <Jucato> but the "noticeable improvements" won't probably come before Edgy's released
[09:46] <Kiongku> edgy testing platform ..
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> especially teardown, that should speed up process
[09:46] <Jucato> haven't read the docs about upstart yet. (and I'm not that familiar with the whole init system in the first place :P)
[09:47] <Jucato> for the sake of those listening and are interested about upstart: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> if something isn't writing or reading HDD, then it should be shut down rather than wait for one process, then another and another
[09:47] <Kiongku> did u ppl upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, i did a long time ago
[09:47] <Jucato> Kiongku: I did both. upgrade first, then fresh install
[09:47] <Kiongku> hmm why both :P?
[09:48] <Jucato> my first ever dist-upgrade experience wasn't the nicest thing in the world
[09:48] <Kiongku> ._.?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, mine went fairly smooth
[09:48] <Jucato> it was hell. :)
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> had to report a bug though
[09:48] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: probably because I had some other stuff installed
[09:48] <Jucato> either compiled or .deb
[09:48] <Kiongku> bleh.. >> got to back up everything before ever upgrading -_-
[09:49] <Jucato> Kiongku: always, always back up
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, backports?
[09:49] <Kiongku> Jucato: dah... lazy XD
[09:49] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nope. compiled stuff or .deb pacakges
[09:49] <Jucato> s/pacakges/packages
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i have a few of those
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> but i compiled them on edgy so...
[09:50] <Jucato> anyway, it took me more than half a day to upgrade
[09:50] <Kiongku> whats the big diff btw edgy and dapper anyway..
[09:50] <Jucato> but after that, I decided I wanted to experience the "fresh Dapper feeling" so I reinstalled from scratch
[09:50] <Jucato> Kiongku: new kernel, new KDE, new apps
[09:50] <Kiongku> Jucato: new apps?
[09:50] <Jucato> new themes, upstart, new look, new System Settings
[09:50] <Jucato> well, new versions of apps actually
[09:50] <Kiongku> Jucato: loool
[09:51] <Jucato> but they MIGHT be shipping digikam by default this time. and kipi-plugins for gwenview, too. (at last!)
[09:52] <Kiongku> hmm.. the bug in kde system settings is still here.. i wodner when will they ever fix it
[09:52] <Jucato> which one?
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !info digikam
[09:52] <ubotu> digikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 4077 kB, installed size 9724 kB
[09:53] <Kiongku> system settings > regional > keyboard shortcuts > command shortcuts
[09:53] <Jucato> ah that one
[09:53] <Jucato> well, they MIGHT look into it after Edgy's released
[09:53] <Kiongku> hahaha
[09:53] <Kiongku> pfft
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> all my settings are to use dvorak as a keyboard input
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> but KDM still uses qwerty
[09:53] <Kiongku> is digikam good?
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how to change that
[09:54] <Jucato> Kiongku: in the mean time, if you absolutely need that command, you can use kcontrol instead
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> or if it's a bug
[09:54] <Kiongku> Jucato: did it a long time ago :)
[09:54] <Jucato> Kiongku: some people think so. at least it's good enough to be considered to be installed by default
[09:55] <Kiongku> Jucato: and u are among the "some people" :P?
[09:55] <Jucato> think of it as GwenView on dope :)
[09:55] <Jucato> Kiongku: well, not really, but I've been hearing/reading good things about it
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i just installed it
[09:55] <Kiongku> Gwenview.. is it in ubuntu?
[09:55] <Jucato> Kiongku: it's the photoviewer in Kubuntu
[09:55] <Jucato> don't let the "G" fool yah
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> its cool
[09:57] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: specially with it's photo/album management features
[09:57] <Jucato> I think it also works well with digital cameras (hence the name)
[09:57] <Kiongku> Jucato: hmm.. cant find gwenview..
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> i like the date part of the organizer
[09:57] <Jucato> Kiongku: K Menu > Graphics
[09:58] <Jucato> Gwenview (Image Viewer)
[09:58] <Jucato> unless of course you removed it :P
[09:58] <Kiongku> doh really its not here..
[09:58] <Kiongku> O__O?
[09:58] <Jucato> lol
[09:58] <Jucato> Alt+F2 and then "gwenview"
[09:59] <Kiongku> yah its not installed.. just checked..
[10:00] <grizzly> how can restart konsole without password?
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i did?
[10:00] <Jucato> tsk tsk tsk
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> grizzly, close it and reapen it?
[10:00] <Kiongku> hmmm
[10:01] <grizzly> oops I mant restart comp
[10:01] <Kiongku> grizzly.. restart XD
[10:01] <Jucato> grizzly: hm.. from the K Menu...
[10:01] <grizzly> restart from konsole
[10:01] <Jucato> ah
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> you can't
[10:01] <Jucato> no you can't without root privileges...
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> you need to do "sudo reboot"
[10:01] <Jucato> which is actually what puzzles me...
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> and i think you need to speciffy
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> "sudo reboot now" or something
[10:01] <grizzly> Jucato: but kmenu doesn't require a pass
[10:01] <Jucato> "sudo shutdown -r now" does the same thing
[10:01] <Kiongku> if u could restart without password.. i think i can make a great linux virus
[10:02] <Jucato> grizzly: yeah. it'a KDE/GNOME/Xfce magic thingy
[10:02] <Jucato> :P
[10:02] <Jucato> up to date, no one has been able to satisfactorily answer that question of mine, too
[10:02] <grizzly> anybody?
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> yea thats definitely a This Isn't Unsecure Computing
[10:02] <hackerball> help me
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, what question
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> hackerball, what do you need
[10:03] <hackerball> resolution of screen
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> what about it?
[10:03] <Jucato> grizzly: I think it has something to do about some of the process being started by root and those apps are the ones that control shutting down/restarting
[10:03] <grizzly> Jucato: hmm thanks , that makes a lot of sense
[10:03] <hackerball> my monitor is samsung syncmaster 510n
[10:04] <hackerball> y no funca la resolution of screen
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> use konsole
[10:04] <hackerball> I want resolution 1024 x768
[10:04] <hackerball> yes
[10:05] <hackerball> no
[10:05] <Jucato> is it a yes, or a no... :)
[10:06] <hackerball> not prove
[10:06] <hackerball> i speak spanish
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[10:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:06] <hackerball> little english
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> and just hit enter
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> all of 7 people in that channel
[10:07] <hackerball> I do not solve my problem
[10:07] <hackerball> my monitor is samsung syncmaster 510n
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hackerball, can your monitor go up to 1024 x 768
[10:08] <hackerball> no
[10:08] <hackerball> minimun
[10:08] <hackerball> 640x480
[10:09] <hackerball> I want 1024 x768
[10:09] <arunkale> um hey people.. i'm having a little trouble with colours..
[10:10] <Kiongku> arunkale: seeing the world in white?
[10:10] <arunkale> Kionku: ha.. no.. on web pages, i see light grey as light pink
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> max res is 1024 x 768 for your monitor
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> how do you change resolution...haha
[10:11] <arunkale> Kiongku: this is not for images, i can see image colours properly, but if a certain column or something has a light grey background, i see it as light pink
[10:11] <arunkale> any ideas?
[10:11] <Kiongku> arunkale: with konqueror?
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hackerball, go to K menu
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> system setting >> Display
[10:12] <hackerball> yes
[10:12] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: talking abot res.. whats urs?
[10:12] <arunkale> Kiongku: with firefox
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> uhh i have no idea
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i think its the one about 1024
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> 1280 or something like that
[10:13] <hackerball> I have to edit the xorg.conf
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> hackerball, no you don't
[10:13] <Kiongku> darn mine is 1280 X 1024 but only 60 hz refresh rate.. that hurt the eyes
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  edits xorg.conf for you
[10:14] <Kiongku> arunkale: strange.. how do u know thats its supposed to be light grey?
[10:15] <hackerball> yes ,But the problem continues
[10:15] <arunkale> Kiongku: I made the page
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> hackerball, did you restart X/
[10:17] <hackerball> yes ,But the problem continues
[10:17] <hackerball> I cannot delizar the control of resolution
[10:18] <grizzly> hey which are the services/processes responsible for automount ?
[10:18] <grizzly> I think I switched mine off .. accidentally
[10:18] <Jucato> hm.. hal I think
[10:18] <grizzly> there's dbus
[10:19] <Kiongku> arunkale: ah ok
[10:19] <grizzly> there isn't an exact process by the name of hal..
[10:19] <grizzly> is mountdevs?
[10:19] <Jucato> yes there isn't an exact process...
[10:20] <grizzly> Jucato: then which starts hal?
[10:20] <Jucato> some script maybe? I'm not really sure. sorry
[10:20] <grizzly> hald?
[10:21] <Jucato> grizzly: probably. it's the hal daemon I think
[10:22] <grizzly> k, anything else ersponsible for automount?
[10:24] <hackerball> hello
[10:24] <rufet> hello
[10:24] <hackerball> my problem
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ah
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> i should be asleep by now
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> its honestly 3.30 am for me
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> what is that in metric time
[10:30] <MenZa> ..metric time?
[10:30] <emonkey> lol
[10:30] <MenZa> 24-hour clock?
[10:30] <MenZa> ... 3:30
[10:30] <MenZa> :P
[10:30] <Jucato> military time?
[10:30] <emonkey> here's 10:30 am
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i find it odd that there is now adept manager and adept installed
[10:30] <Jucato> emonkey: +2 UTC?
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> MenZa, yes it exists
[10:31] <emonkey> Jucato, +1 I think
[10:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: Adept Manager is the "formal name" of adept
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> 10 months, 10 weeks, 10 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes, 100 seconds
[10:31] <Kiongku> 12 37 pm
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, yes but i went to run "adept" in the kmenu
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> but it couldn't find the command
[10:32] <Jucato> well, the command is still "adept" :)
[10:32] <emonkey> adept updater is adept_updater afaik
[10:33] <Jucato> Add/Remove is adept_installer and Adept Notifier is adept_notifier
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i mean in the "run command" section of Adept
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> want a screen shot?
[10:35] <Jucato> nah :)
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> cuz i got one
[10:37] <Kiongku> digikam is a good photo organizer?
[10:37] <Jucato> so I've heard
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, some people thing so
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> s/thing/think
[10:37] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: how about u...
[10:39] <Admiral_Chicago> i like it
[10:39] <Admiral_Chicago> especially the date sorting
[10:39] <Kiongku> ah
[10:39] <Jucato> Kiongku: you can organize photos and make albums.
[10:39] <Jucato> without moving them from where they are in the directories/folder, I think
[10:41] <Kiongku> gonna test
[10:42] <Kiongku> all those ppl "zz" in this channel.. frankly i rarely saw any other ppl talk
[10:42] <Jucato> the other people are either devs, ops, or something :)
[10:42] <Kiongku> hahah
[10:48] <Kiongku> Jucato: know any good place to find themse for KDE?
[10:49] <Kiongku> *themes
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> kde-look.org
[10:49] <Jucato> kde-look.org
[10:49] <Kiongku> :p
[10:49] <Kiongku> k
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i won that one Jucato
[10:49] <Jucato> except that he was asking *me* :P
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> ah that he was
[10:49] <Jucato> lol
[10:49] <Kiongku> XD... lol nvm
[10:49] <Jucato> it's ok...
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> its cold
[10:50] <Kiongku> is it a fight for support givers :P
[10:50] <Jucato> I wish you answered a bit faster, would have saved me the typing :P
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm working on getting my typing fasetr
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> faster
[10:50] <jt_> this noob needs some help
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> because i'm on dvorak and all
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> jt_, suP?
[10:50] <Kiongku> hahaha but beware of typos..
[10:50] <jt_> hey
[10:51] <jt_> uhmm kk firstly i luv kubuntu
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, that is a good point
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> jt_, as do I, what can we try to help with
[10:51] <jt_> my source list...
[10:51] <Kiongku> lol
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> jt_, what about it?
[10:52] <jt_> its not connecting..it hangs on waiting for headers
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> you want to make a new one, add multiverse, change a repo?
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> how long?
[10:52] <jt_> forever it ends up goiung back to the main screen
[10:53] <Kiongku> whats that karamba class?
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> jt_, try using the terminal
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, superkaramba?
[10:55] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: heh?.. no i see something called karamba as type..
[10:55] <Kiongku> there's splash screen,wallpaper, etc.. and also karamba o0
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> open up a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade"
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, oh nevermind I have no ida
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> s/ida/idea
[10:56] <jt_> thank you ill give it a go
[10:56] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: beware of typos :D
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> that *may* fix it
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> i heard typos are the number one cause of diabetes in the US
[10:57] <arunkale> hahaha
[10:57] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: and whats the scientific reasoning in it :P?
[10:58] <Fangor> hello, if I shall install nvidia drivers in ubuntu, how shall I do? :)
[10:58] <Kiongku> Fangor: isn't it in by default??
[10:59] <Fangor> not a clue, I'm a total beginner :)
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> !nvidia
[10:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Fangor, follow that
[10:59] <Fangor> thanks mate
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> no problem
[10:59] <jt_> does anyone know where i can find the kubuntu default source list?
[10:59] <Fangor> and btw how do I exit x or boot without it?
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> jt_, i don't know
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> but you could use source-o-matic
[11:00] <jt_> no worries mate
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> !source-o-matic
[11:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:00] <jt_> cool
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> just make sure to check community packages and source
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> and use the country letters as well
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> that's kinda important
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know what language amarok was written in
[11:03] <jt_> what is the latest kubuntu..breezy or hoary?
[11:03] <Admiral_Chicago> jt_, dapper
[11:03] <jt_> hmm dat is the 6.06 one rite?
[11:03] <cvt> jt_,  the latest i have is breezy 5.10
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> jt_, correct
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> cvt, you should probably update
[11:04] <Kiongku> if u want the latest least theres edgy.. but its testing platform XD
[11:04] <cvt> Admiral_Chicago,  does that entail losing compatibility with current apps?
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> its really easy
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> cvt, no
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> what would you be incompatilbe with? all the applications are updated as well
[11:05] <kyrvin> ping jono :)
[11:05] <Kiongku> hmmm
[11:05] <Kiongku> may be the custom compiled ones
[11:06] <jono> kyrvin, pong!
[11:06] <jono> kyrvin, ready? :)
[11:06] <kyrvin> jono: yes
[11:06] <cvt> Admiral_Chicago,  extensions in firefox like paste and go, super dragandgo, and tabbrowser preferences, for starters
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> cvt
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> no you wont
[11:06] <Kiongku> jono kyrvin ping pong O_o?
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> if you are really paranoid, just back up your profile
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> its in ~/.mozilla
[11:07] <Kiongku> cvt: admiral is right
[11:07] <cvt> Kiongku,  about which part?
[11:08] <jono> Kiongku, heh
[11:08] <Kiongku> cvt: mozilla is independent
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> when i updated from breezy to dapper, i didn't lose any information
[11:10] <jenkins> hello
[11:11] <jt_> hi
[11:11] <Kiongku> yo
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> cvt, just go to K menu, run command "kdesu kate /etc/sources.list"
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> and use the tool in kate to find and replace everything that says breezy to dapper
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> and do a sudo apt-get update
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:12] <eeos> hi all
[11:12] <jt_> sup
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> helly
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> too many greetings
[11:13] <josef> guys i got some trouble playing DVD its says "audio output is unaivalable Device is busy()"
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> ah Kiongku jumy on it
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> josef, are you using anything else
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> e,g. are you running amarok, mplayer, etc
[11:13] <josef> no  only Konversation to chat
[11:14] <josef> and gaim thats all
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> what player are you using?
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> to open up the dvd
[11:14] <josef> kaffeine player
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[11:15] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: hmm "jumy on it"?
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> jump on it, quit
[11:16] <josef> Maybe is there something on the background working that i havent notice yet
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm very tired but not sleepy
[11:16] <Kiongku> lol..
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> josef, try runnig pstree in a knosol
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> konsole
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, you're my new spell checker
[11:16] <josef> pstree ??? how is the syntax i am new in kubuntu
[11:17] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: hahaha.. :P
[11:17] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: *runnig*
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> josef, open up konsole
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> and type "pstree"
[11:17] <josef> ok is already open
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> it'll show you all the running processes
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> you can go up with shift and page up
[11:17] <josef> ok and then
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you see running, anything using arts?
[11:18] <josef> wait i have to look to arts right
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> huh?
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i'm going to try to go to bed
[11:19] <Admiral_Chicago> third time is the charm
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> be back in like 10
[11:20] <josef> i see artsd
[11:20] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: stop counting the sheeps.. talk to the shepherd directly
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, Jesus?
[11:20] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: well it depends which sheep ur trying to count :P
[11:21] <josef> I see artsd
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, my life is complicated
[11:21] <Kiongku> artsd.. hmm arts daemon
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> josef, is there anything branching off it
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> today i had to pick between IRC or walking to a girl's room
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> to "spend the night"
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> guess where I am?
[11:22] <josef> admiral under artsd is allot of program i think??
[11:22] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: Confusius says Man living complicated life is Man having hard times
[11:22] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: in a girl's room talking on irc?
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, in my room on IRC
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> her computer doesn't have XGL
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> fuck her
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !language
[11:23] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: University dorm?
[11:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[11:23] <Kiongku> lol
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Kiongku, College dorm
[11:23] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: whats the diff...
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> universities have graduate programs
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> thas the only difference
[11:24] <Kiongku> lol.. how old are u
[11:24] <aseigo> Admiral_Chicago: either she's ugly, annoying or you need to check your priorities ;)
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> the last one
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> my priority now is bed
[11:24] <Kiongku> hahaha
[11:24] <Kiongku> Annoying :P... omg
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> no i can be rested tomorrow night to stay up drinking
[11:25] <Kiongku> so what is the age group for college?
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> no actually there is a story about me not wanting to leave my room
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> here, its like 18-22
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> typically
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> bed nov
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> now
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> see
[11:25] <Kiongku> bbyyyyeeeeeee go go go
[11:25] <Kiongku> Get in position!
[11:26] <g-henna> hi everyone
[11:27] <g-henna> i have a problem printing landscape pdfs from kpdf
[11:27] <g-henna> while printing from ooo works fine, if i export to pdf, then it is actually printed on portrait format and with a part truncated
[11:27] <g-henna> see this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/47649
[11:28] <g-henna> and in addition, in the kdeprint window, the part to select paper orientation is greyed out, so i cannot change it. in print preview, i actually already see that it will go wrong
[11:28] <g-henna> how can i work around this?
[11:44] <tobias_> hello! I just wanted to ask how likely it is that something breaks when upgrading from Dapper to Edgy at the end of october (when edgy's out). On the mailinglist, people sometimes had problems when upgrading from Breezy to Dapper. Is this just as likely to happen in the Dapper -> Edgy situation?
[11:45] <Tm_T> tobias_: I'll try to find out about it today ;-P
[11:47] <tobias_> Tm_T: But Edgy's still in development ... it's quite likely that something breaks now, isn't it?
[11:47] <Tm_T> tobias_: well, yes
[11:48] <Tm_T> but if we can spot the problem now, it can be fixed before release
[11:48] <Tm_T> so said, you have slight hint how it will be, nothing more
[11:48] <Tm_T> s/have/will have/
[11:48] <tobias_> Tm_T: True!
[11:49] <Tm_T> but hey, what I wouldn't do for the name of science ;)
[11:49] <Tm_T> anyway, pharmacy now and upgrade later ->
[11:50] <tobias_> Generally speaking, is it necessary to recompile certain programs that I've got running on my system now? Like e.g. 'Kubication' - a nice, lean Network-environment switcher... will it still work in the next distro - theoretically?
[11:52] <fdoving> tobias_: it will probably work in the next version, without recompiling, yes.
[11:53] <tobias_> fdoving: That's good to hear .. I thought that maybe manually compiled programs only worked with the kernel/packages they were originally compiled on & that I had to recompile them after a dist-upgrade...
[11:59] <MenZa> !eth
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <MenZa> ;O
[11:59] <MenZa> !ethernet
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <fdoving> tobias_: that's true on major version changes, where backwards compability breaks.
[12:03] <fdoving> have to go.. lunch.
[12:04] <tobias_> fdoving: Thanks for the info! Bye!
[12:04] <Electrolyte> You guys had best watch when updating your fglrx driver.
[12:04] <Electrolyte> I just had to re-configure it via console again, since it wouldn't boot the kernel.
[12:06] <MenZa> hmmm... how can I have Kubuntu detect an ethernet connection if I plug it in AFTER booting?
[12:07] <MenZa> in Network Settings I see eth0, but I have no IP address.
[12:09] <tn3270> sudo ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient
[12:10] <MenZa> tn3270: ...permission denied :o
[12:11] <MenZa> (creating dhclient.leases and dhclient.pid
[12:11] <MenZa> I thought sudo allowed me to do everything :O
[12:11] <tn3270> oops
[12:12] <tn3270> sudo ifconfig eth0
[12:12] <MenZa> ?
[12:12] <MenZa> ah
[12:12] <tn3270> seeif it is up first
[12:12] <MenZa> aah
[12:12] <tn3270> then sudo dhclient
[12:12] <MenZa> sudo dhcilent
[12:12] <MenZa> yes
[12:12] <MenZa> yup
[12:12] <MenZa> got it
[12:12] <MenZa> Thanks :D
[12:12] <tn3270> np
[12:12] <MenZa> Where do I set aliases again :D?
[12:13] <HetaUma> hi
[12:14] <HetaUma> is there any "easy" way yet to install kubuntu on systems with p965 chipsets with jmicron controller?
[12:15] <emonkey> MenZa, ~/.bashrc
[12:15] <MenZa> emonkey: cheers.
[12:23] <d11> anyone here using a multimonitor system
[12:23] <d11> with a laptop maybe
[12:23] <d11> ?
[12:24] <d11> does anyone know how to set up the system so i can toggle between using the
[12:25] <octan> !xgl
[12:25] <d11> external screen as extension
[12:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:25] <d11> it works alright already
[12:26] <d11> but i want to toggle
[12:27] <vixenk> hello room :)
[12:29] <d11> i need some help
[12:29] <d11> i cant use skype and amarok at the same time
[12:29] <d11> why?
[12:30] <d11> they start complaining about the sound card
[12:30] <d11> plz
[12:30] <vixenk> well my first guess would be that theyre both trying to use oss instead of alsa at the same time
[12:31] <vixenk> but im new to kubuntu as of like 5 minutes ago and have never used skype :S
[12:31] <d11> ;)
[12:31] <d11> skype somehow doesnt allow for any configuration
[12:31] <d11> ill search the iner some more
[12:32] <d11> inet
[12:32] <vixenk> go into amaroks xine engine settings
[12:32] <vixenk> make sure its set for alsa
[12:32] <vixenk> as for skype i dont know which driver it uses by default
[12:32] <vixenk> sorry i cant help more than that :(
[12:34] <d11> ive got a noob question: skype for example i just installed by unpacking an archive, but how do i get it to show up in the menus und in the Alt F2 run dialog
[12:35] <vixenk> what kind of archive was it?
[12:35] <d11> tar.bz2
[12:35] <vixenk> ah
[12:35] <d11> i can start it through the shell
[12:36] <d11> but i want it in the menu
[12:36] <vixenk> go to system settings > panel > menu tab
[12:37] <vixenk> there will be a button that will allow you to edit the kmenu
[12:37] <vixenk> from there you can add it on
[12:37] <Jucato> actually, he can just right-click on the K Menu button and choose Edit Menu...
[12:37] <vixenk> that doesnt work in kubuntu for me
[12:38] <vixenk> i was actually wondering about that
[12:38] <Jucato> vixenk: really? that's not normal...
[12:38] <vixenk> well since i upgraded to 3.5.4 it does :S
[12:38] <vixenk> but yah, when i first installed it, it didnt work
[12:38] <Jucato> d11: if ever you installed an app (that's supposed to have a menu entry in K Menu) and it doesn't show up, you can type this command in Konsole "kbuildsycoca --incremental" and ignore the error messages
[12:39] <d11> ok, worked
[12:39] <d11> thx
[12:39] <Jucato> er... I meant right-click on K Menu and choose "Menu Editor"
[12:40] <Jucato> vixenk: can you also right-click on any menu item and choose "Edit this item"?
[12:40] <vixenk> yup
[12:40] <vixenk> but before the upgrade i couldnt, lol
[12:41] <vixenk> i noticed kde has been tweaked a lot in this distro so i just figured that was a kubuntu thing
[12:41] <d11> jucato: any ideas on why skype wont work when i am listening to musik with amarok?
[12:41] <Jucato> d11: unfortunately, no. (that's why I was pretty silent until now...)
[12:41] <d11> ;)
[12:41] <d11> k
[12:43] <d11> then another thing : i cant seem to be able to get firefox to be my default browser
[12:43] <d11> i made it check for default but it just does nothing
[12:43] <d11> can i force that somewhere
[12:43] <vixenk> system settings > kde components > default applications
[12:44] <vgrossi> hi all, i'm working in an italian school and i would to put up 10 kubuntu machines (that have the same hardware)... how i can "replicate" one installation to the other 9? (i was looking to partimage" but i wander if there is another solution... thnx a lot
[12:44] <vixenk> click on web browser and then select in the following browser:
[12:44] <vgrossi> *wonder
[12:44] <Jucato> d11: you have tried doing it from the GUI like vixenk said?
[12:44] <vixenk> type firefox
[12:45] <d11> thx, works fine
[12:45] <d11> first time i use kubuntu, just installed it on my laptop
[12:46] <MenZa> my laptop likes kubuntu aswell ^_^
[12:46] <vixenk> yah i dont know why they put that in the firefox linux version... it never works, at least it never has for me, lol
[12:46] <Jucato> it actually never works for anyone on Linux :)
[12:47] <vixenk> i must say im impressed by kubuntu though, after going through my usual tweaks its pretty snappy
[12:47] <d11> i've got another one: I have another debian machine in the network which is running mail server and webserver. but wenn i type http://klserver in the addressbar it wont find it. i always have to use the ip
[12:48] <d11> powersaving doesnt work as well yet though
[12:48] <d11> only have 4 hours instead of 6
[12:49] <d11> anyone have an idea why the dns isnt resolved?
[12:49] <d11> it works with smb://klserver
[12:49] <d11> and the internet works fine
[12:50] <d11> thx anyway, ill google then for another few hours :(
[12:55] <d11> just found out that skype uses oss
[12:56] <d11> vixenk: if skype uses oss, in the internet it says it asla has to emulate it... do you know how?
[12:56] <vixenk> k... i would suggest starting it either via the run dialogue or console with "aoss " without the quotes preceding it
[12:56] <vixenk> if that works you can add it to the skype entry in kmenu
[12:57] <vixenk> thats it ^ :)
[12:57] <d11> aoss command not found
[12:57] <vixenk> did you do that in console or via the run dialogue?
[12:57] <d11> oh, sry
[12:58] <vixenk> im not 100% sure it will work in console is why i asked
[12:58] <vixenk> i know it works with the run dialogue
[12:59] <dhq> is there a calculator in konsole
[12:59] <Jucato> dhq: you can use Katapult (Alt+Space)
[12:59] <Jucato> but in Konsole, I'm not sure
[01:00] <dhq> well wantted to know in konsole :)
[01:00] <d11> aoss /home/d11/Programs/skype-1.2.0.18/skype ----- cant run command
[01:00] <vixenk> hmm
[01:00] <vixenk> let me check real quick to see if its just skype specific
[01:00] <d11> thx
[01:01] <vixenk> yup it is :(
[01:02] <Pensacola> after installing the new linux image I can't login to kubuntu anymore :s
[01:03] <d11> vixenk: what about a package i found: alsa-oss its an alsa wrapper for oss whatever that means
[01:03] <vixenk> oops forgot about that
[01:04] <d11> what, do i need that?
[01:04] <vixenk> yes, lol
[01:04] <d11> k
[01:04] <vixenk> sorry about that... im so used to installing it i forgot that it doesnt come by default, lol
[01:05] <d11> np
[01:05] <d11> ok its starting
[01:06] <d11> works!!!!
[01:06] <d11> great
[01:06] <d11> well at least it places the call
[01:06] <d11> dont know about it actually working
[01:06] <vixenk> :) well at least were making some progress, lol
[01:07] <d11> still got a lot ahead of me
[01:07] <d11> thx for know
[01:07] <d11> my laptops coming along
[01:07] <Pensacola> after installing the new linux image I can't login to kubuntu anymore it only seems to restart X
[01:08] <weedar> Isn't it possible to resize a fat32 partition with qtparted or gparted?
[01:08] <octan> !compiz
[01:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:09] <vixenk> dll: np :) weedar: yes but you want to make sure to defrag it first
[01:09] <Hobbsee> weedar: should be
[01:09] <Hobbsee> Pensacola: hit ctrl+alt+f1, login, type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and try again
[01:10] <Pensacola> ok will try
[01:10] <Jucato> Hobbsee: sounds like "please dial the number and try again" :P
[01:10] <intelikey> or dist-upgrade
[01:10] <weedar> well Hobbsee and vixenk, qtparted just shows an exclamation mark (!) without an error-message, and gparted doesn't let me do anything at all to the partition :/
[01:10] <Hobbsee> Pensacola: or chose an older kernel from grub, and update your system
[01:10] <vixenk> is the partition mounted?
[01:10] <Hobbsee> weedar: hmmm okay.  weird
[01:10] <weedar> yes vixenk
[01:11] <vixenk> qtparted wont work with mounted partitions, thats probably why its showing the exclamation mark
[01:11] <Hobbsee> cant you not resize a mounted partition?....
[01:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:11] <vixenk> lol
[01:12] <weedar> thanks vixenk :)
[01:12] <vixenk> np :)
[01:12] <intelikey> i wonder if i can resize my fs ?
[01:12] <weedar> is there a tool to defrag a fat32 partition in linux then?
[01:13] <vixenk> that i do not know, but you can try searching for it in the repos
[01:14] <intelikey> any way to resize an ext3fs == ext2 + journal  without loosing data ?
[01:14] <intelikey> (not a partition ^ )
[01:14] <pchp> hello ya til un francais?
[01:14] <vixenk> i know you can with a partition and the same goes for it as does fat32
[01:15] <intelikey> !fr
[01:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:15] <weedar> should be possible to chop off the end of the partition intelikey, gparted at least claims resizing is possible on ext2/3
[01:15] <|lostbyte|> I have an interface up.
[01:15] <pchp> merci
[01:15] <intelikey> hmmm yeah but i don't have a partition....
[01:16] <octan> how do i for a pkg to be installed?
[01:16] <octan> *force
[01:16] <intelikey> dpkg -i --force-all
[01:17] <intelikey> octan i doubt that you want to though
[01:17] <Tm_T> hmm, I recommend to NOT force all
[01:17] <Tm_T> just that particular issue
[01:17] <octan> i need to force
[01:17] <Tm_T> but I doubt you have to force _all_
[01:17] <octan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427
[01:17] <Tm_T> just overwrite or something like that I think
[01:18] <octan> i just fond that :)
[01:18] <Pensacola> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade didn't fix anything, it didn't install any new packages :s
[01:18] <intelikey> did it error out ?
[01:19] <intelikey> if the update failed the upgrade didn't start.
[01:19] <Pensacola> no
[01:19] <Pensacola> it said 0 upgradable packages
[01:19] <intelikey> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <intelikey> ?
[01:20] <Pensacola> I'm in windows now, reboot :)
[01:20] <intelikey> Pensacola what have you got broken anyway ?
[01:21] <intelikey> oooops
[01:21] <MenZa> !dk > ke
[01:22] <intelikey> Hobbsee before i point pensacola in the wrong dirrection.... what is he/she working on ?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> intelikey: X broke due to the kernel upgrade
[01:23] <intelikey> ah ati or nvidia ?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> intelikey: work around is to use the old kernel
[01:23] <intelikey> sure.
[01:23] <Hobbsee> i dont know - i havent booted dapper since july 22
[01:25] <intelikey> fix is to rebuild the driver for the vidio card for the new kernel.    should be a wiki on that...
[01:25] <timmynub> Hi, anyone got time to give me a hand with something please?
[01:25] <intelikey> :)
[01:28] <timmynub> I've got problems with an IDE DVD -RW. I have two of them - the second one (slave) will auto-mount and play DVD's, but the first (master) won't..?
[01:28] <intelikey> any way to exploit an open console ?
[01:29] <vixenk> i dont really know much about that issue but would a dpkg --force-downgrade work maybe?
[01:30] <intelikey> try it
[01:30] <timmynub> is that aimed at me?
[01:30] <intelikey> vixenk
[01:30] <vixenk> oh, lol, no it was aimed toward intelikey
[01:30] <timmynub> aaah, my bad
[01:30] <timmynub> new to all of this :-|
[01:31] <vixenk> nah i shouldve pinned his/her name to it before i said it :)
[01:32] <timmynub> right. Well, I've only been using this just over a day, never used IRC before either :-s
[01:32] <intelikey> welcome to the land that doesn't exist timmynub
[01:32] <vixenk> lol
[01:32] <weedar> I thought RL was the land that didn't exist
[01:33] <intelikey> weedar may be....
[01:33] <timmynub> heh, cheers intelikey.
[01:34] <intelikey> cyber space is kinda non-existant, altered reality, wonder land of nameless un-important people that are all kings in their on mind.
[01:34] <vixenk> timmynub: when you say it wont automount do you mean you dont get the window asking you what you want to do with the cd when you pop it in?
[01:35] <timmynub> yea, exactly
[01:35] <intelikey> you get used to it.
[01:35] <timmynub> vixenk: thing is, it'll mount CD's fine, but not DVD's
[01:35] <weedar> well, if cogito ergo sum means "I think therefore I am", doesn't that mean that thoughts are the only "real" things. cyber-space is just a collection of thoughts and ideas so... ;)
[01:36] <intelikey> so you never questioned the validity of "cogito ergo sum" ?
[01:36] <weedar> well, er, no?
[01:37] <intelikey> :)
[01:37] <intelikey> ok lets get back on topic just the same
[01:37] <psb154> weedar from our perspective, you are simply lines of text.
[01:37] <vixenk> timmynubs: if you go to system settings > storage media you *should* be able to change it back
[01:38] <intelikey> psb154 the bot has been just as real to some... :)
[01:38] <intelikey> !ubotu
[01:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:39] <timmynub> vixenk: what exactly should I be looking for there?
[01:39] <vixenk> unmounted dvd
[01:39] <vixenk> itll be in the dropdown menu at the top
[01:40] <timmynub> yea, got that
[01:40] <timmynub> but I'm not entirely sure what I should be changing?
[01:40] <XVampireX> Hey
[01:40] <XVampireX> I got a little problem
[01:40] <vixenk> put a checkmark next to enable medium application autostart after mount if its not there already
[01:41] <XVampireX> "plug and play" doesn't work, so for example if I plug something, say, a printer, into the usb, it will only start working when I restart X
[01:41] <timmynub> vixenk: I'm pretty sure my fstab entry for the drive is wrong. Whats weird is that the second DVD drive (the one that WILL work) is'nt shown in fstab at all..
[01:41] <vixenk> and make sure that nothing is highlighted in the notifications tab in the white box before clicking apply
[01:42] <vixenk> what is your fstab entry for it?
[01:42] <vixenk> the one you said was wrong, i mean
[01:42] <intelikey> timmynub remove the entry for the one that dont work.
[01:42] <timmynub> vixenk: /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:43] <vixenk> yah do what he says, lol
[01:44] <timmynub> lol, ok
[01:44] <timmynub> I'll give it a whirl
[01:44] <vixenk> just make sure to backup first ;)
[01:44] <timmynub> heh
[01:44] <timmynub> too late >.<
[01:44] <intelikey> what ever kind of automounter *buntu is using it doesn't rely on fstab  and things mounted through fstab most likely wont automount.
[01:44] <vixenk> lol, well at least you posted it in here so it can be added back :)
[01:45] <timmynub> true
[01:45] <timmynub> so what does it use to auto-mount? I was told to edit fstab to get my windows drive to mount..
[01:45] <vixenk> im guessing hal...
[01:46] <vixenk> could be wrong, though
[01:47] <intelikey> timmynub yes to mount permanant devices.  but removables are using prolly "hald" and something in the xinit
[01:47] <timmynub> right, removing that line has'nt done anything..
[01:47] <intelikey> i don't automount anything and i don't X (hardly at all)  so i havent checked.
[01:48] <vixenk> does the icon for the drive appear at all on your desktop?
[01:48] <timmynub> I'm a wimp, I was using windows until yesterday morning, when it blew - instant swap lol
[01:48] <timmynub> nope, no icon
[01:48] <intelikey> timmynub it wont until you   sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a      and restart X
[01:48] <timmynub> aaah ok,
[01:48] <timmynub> I'll give that a shot then
[01:49] <timmynub> back shortly, I hope
[01:50] <vixenk> k im off... when i start forgetting about rebooting after editing fstab i know its time to sleep :P
[01:50] <intelikey> reboot ?
[01:54] <voicu> Is there a program for linux to write a bootable disk(i.e. a floppy)?
[01:54] <voicu> Like rawwrite for windows..
[01:55] <intelikey> lol
[01:55] <intelikey> rawwrite for M$ is the dos/windows port of  dd
[01:55] <intelikey> man dd
[01:56] <voicu> ok, thnx
[01:56] <intelikey> so to simply answer your question,  yes.
[01:56] <arejaytee> no.
[01:56] <arejaytee> lol
[01:56] <intelikey> RJT ?
[01:58] <timmynub> That was a no-go, it's still not working
[01:59] <arejaytee> wtf? intelikey who are u?
[01:59] <intelikey> timmynub i checked to see what in the world you were working on,  seems that a kernel upgrade made your xorg fail ?
[02:00] <arejaytee> was that a guess?
[02:00] <intelikey> RJT i'm nobody important.
[02:00] <timmynub> intelikey: I'm not sure I follow?
[02:00] <Telroth|Sleep> arejaytee, which is known because he has "intel" in his name
[02:01] <arejaytee> i usually go by RJT and this is my secondary nick, but i didnt think ive ever used that in here hahaha
[02:02] <intelikey> timmynub i came in the channel about the time Hobbsee gave you the command to use to upgrade the system... i didn't know why.  so i asked while you were away,  you are having issues with the xserver  correct ?
[02:03] <arejaytee> was just freaky, what made u use RJT lol
[02:03] <intelikey> timmynub sorry  i have the wrong nick
[02:03] <Telroth|Sleep> intelikey, there's a better way to do this
[02:03] <Telroth|Sleep> oh
[02:03] <Telroth|Sleep> lol
[02:03] <timmynub> intelikey: lol, not to worry
[02:03] <intelikey> timmynub yours is the no automount issue.
[02:03] <intelikey> ok
[02:03] <Telroth|Sleep> well, cya later guys
[02:04] <fragske> hello, how can I check if kubuntu sees my dual core? :)
[02:04] <arejaytee> whats a good ftp client ?
[02:04] <Telroth|School> secureftp
[02:04] <Telroth|School> sudo apt-get install secureftp
[02:05] <Telroth|School> universe or multiverse may have to be enabled though
[02:05] <intelikey> i'm streight again.   timmynub now you should check the settings in the kcontrol app  maybe.   like vixenk said eariler.   put a checkmark next to enable medium application autostart"
[02:05] <timmynub> intelikey: thats already done, still nada though
[02:05] <arejaytee> yeah they are, a newb but not that much lol
[02:06] <arejaytee> thanks
[02:06] <arejaytee> gotta wait for adept to finish doing security updates
[02:06] <intelikey> timmynub question. did you restart x  or reboot the system ?
[02:09] <timmynub> intelikey: rebooted the system
[02:15] <intelikey> timmynub i recall something in kde.  go to menu > settings > control center      in the left pane select desktop > behavior   on the right side {device icons} tab    have a look for your drive
[02:17] <timmynub> intelikey: I don't have that under settings?
[02:17] <intelikey> if i recall correctly,  not saying that i do;  but changing the settings there can cause the automounter to reset,  that is to say it will start watching things it wasn't watching.
[02:18] <timmynub> do you mean Kinfocenter?
[02:18] <intelikey> timmynub sure you do.   [alt] +[f2]   type kcontrol
[02:18] <intelikey> starts the same app
[02:18] <intelikey> nope
[02:18] <intelikey> kcontrol
[02:19] <intelikey> control center.   should be first in the list
[02:19] <timmynub> intelikey: that started it, you'll have to take my word about not having it on the menu though!
[02:19] <arejaytee> dido
[02:21] <intelikey> you have   menu > settings     but control center   is not the top of the list ???
[02:21] <timmynub> yep
[02:21] <intelikey> most pecular
[02:21] <timmynub> only one thing under that, which is Network Tools
[02:21] <intelikey> i
[02:22] <Telroth|School> timmynub,
[02:22] <Telroth|School> menu -> system settings
[02:22] <Telroth|School> should be below help
[02:23] <timmynub> I hounestly can't see it
[02:23] <arejaytee> ahh knew id seen it before though lol
[02:23] <Telroth|School> ok, did alt+f2 "kcontrol" work?
[02:23] <timmynub> it did, yea
[02:23] <intelikey> Telroth|School hehhe i don't have a kcontrol listing in  menu -> system settings   :)
[02:24] <Telroth|School> intelikey, no, System Settings is kcontrol,  not another menu
[02:24] <Telroth|School> it's moved & renamed
[02:24] <timmynub> Mounted DVD is checked under Desktop > Behaviour > Device Icons
[02:24] <Telroth|School> timmynub,
[02:24] <Telroth|School> add the storage media to your panel
[02:25] <Telroth|School> err, "Storage Media" applet
[02:25] <timmynub> Telroth|School: guide me through that in plain english please?! lol
[02:25] <Telroth|School> i can't i have to go :(
[02:25] <Telroth|School> intelikey can
[02:25] <timmynub> not to worry!
[02:26] <timmynub> poor intelikey, he/she is probably sick to the back teeth of me!
[02:26] <intelikey> Telroth|School there is no listing "system settings" anywhere in my menu
[02:26] <Telroth|School> intelikey, i'm just saying what i have ;)
[02:26] <intelikey> it must be kubuntu specific
[02:26] <Telroth|School> based on the fact i didn't move or rename mine before or after installation
[02:27] <Telroth|School> ttyl
[02:27] <intelikey> Telroth|School k
[02:29] <intelikey> timmynub what Telroth|School was talking about is    right click blank part of the pannel   select  add applet to pannel      and choose "Storage Media"      assuming the applets are named the same
[02:30] <timmynub> intelikey: still nothing
[02:31] <intelikey> timmynub that probably wont do what you wanted, but might be a good work-around for the time.   until someone that uses kde and automounts media  can help you.
[02:32] <intelikey> oh and i'm obviously lagging about half a minute right now.
[02:32] <intelikey> [Lag 24] 
[02:33] <timmynub> whats really got me baffled, is that CD's will auto-mount
[02:33] <timmynub> just not DVD's
[02:33] <intelikey> i'm in the middle of a 30 minute dl   full band narrow-ness used up
[02:33] <intelikey> dial-up
[02:34] <intelikey> you folks with high speed have band-width.  i have band-narrowness  :)
[02:34] <timmynub> lol
[02:34] <timmynub> I have a bit of wet-string, when it rains, the connection drops
[02:35] <intelikey> timmynub you're sure it is a dvd player ?
[02:35] <timmynub> lol, yes, it's definatly a DVD player
[02:35] <timmynub> unless phillips put the logo's on to take the piss
[02:35] <arejaytee> hrmm i aint got kcontrol linked anywhere not even as help
[02:35] <arejaytee> wierd
[02:35] <arejaytee> looks nice too
[02:35] <intelikey> just checking
[02:36] <timmynub> kcontrol is the same as menu > system settings, just a different layout. Took me a minute to suss that out..
[02:36] <arejaytee> within reason there is alot more in kcontrol
[02:37] <arejaytee> dont have themes and such in system settings
[02:37] <Jucato> system settings does not display control modules that could already be set somewhere else, to reduce duplication and confusion
[02:38] <timmynub> what's the file type for DVD? I thought maybe I could try and sudo-mount the drive in Konsole..?
[02:38] <timmynub> *filesystem type
[02:39] <Healot> iso9660 or udf
[02:39] <Healot> timmynub: use pmount instead
[02:39] <timmynub> Healot: what is pmount?
[02:40] <intelikey> that must be a kubuntu specific thing.   i didn't install kubuntu, i installed kde   and i can't find what yall are talking about.     kde has no "system settings"   in any menu.
[02:40] <Healot> user-space mount
[02:40] <Healot> requires no root-access
[02:40] <Jucato> intelikey: yes it is
[02:40] <intelikey> timmynub you don't need the fs type.  just the device and mount point
[02:40] <arejaytee> lookds like it intelikey
[02:41] <Jucato> intelikey: System Settings is Kubuntu's "unique" control center.
[02:41] <XVampireX> intelikey: yeah, system settings is kubuntu thing
[02:41] <timmynub> mount: no medium found
[02:41] <arejaytee> i like the theme manager in kcontorl (windows part of me lol)
[02:42] <XVampireX> intelikey: It's there to make n00bs coming from windows figure out "Here's the control panel!"
[02:42] <Jucato> arejaytee: the theme manager itself is practically useless...
[02:42] <arejaytee> oh man
[02:42] <Jucato> XVampireX: not really. it's taking a completely different path
[02:42] <intelikey> example;  sudo mount /dev/hda /media/cdrom1                 pmount /dev/hda /media/cdrom1
[02:42] <XVampireX> It works similarly to control panel :D
[02:42] <Jucato> at least it has grown in Edgy
[02:43] <Jucato> XP's control panel?
[02:43] <Jucato> XVampireX: FYI, the first system settings actually resemebled OS X's System Preferences more than XP's Control Panel
[02:44] <timmynub> intelikey tried both, same error message.. mount: No Medium Found
[02:44] <mojosound> If the live cd does not find my wireless card would it be better to waqit for a release that would before installing?
[02:44] <arejaytee> gotta agree with that, whats the gnome proggie that makes the menu resemble the xp look start menu
[02:44] <Jucato> aren't CD's supposed to be automounted? you can't manually mount them
[02:44] <intelikey> there's only so many things you can do with shrimp,  i mean a menu...
[02:44] <abattoir> Jucato: you can't mount a cd manually?
[02:45] <Jucato> abattoir: hm.. it was supposed to be a question.. forgot the "?"
[02:45] <timmynub> abattoir: no, it's me that can't.. DVD not CD though..
[02:45] <abattoir> Jucato: aah ok :P
[02:45] <snews> Hi All, I need some help, i try to install krb5-user as apt-get install krb5-user but says Package krb5-user is not available, how I proceed to install kerberos ?
[02:46] <Jucato> arejaytee: GNOME progie? or are you referring to Kbfx on KDE?
[02:46] <arejaytee> something i found a bit annoying is that when i set the DNS in network settings, after hitting APPLY after a short time it would default back to the routers ip address, i had to click apply and then reset which was a litlte wierd
[02:46] <timmynub> abattoir: I've got a DVD drive that will auto-mount CD's fine, but won't do anything with DVD's at all.
[02:47] <arejaytee> umm i was looking at it on my work xp lappy, but its wasnt for kde, got it from digg i think
[02:47] <intelikey> timmynub  that was an example.  obviously it's not hda or cdrom1 doesn't exist or there is no dvd in the drive.         `cd /dev ;for Q in hd? ;do eject $Q > /dev/null 2>&1 && echo "drive $Q" ;done ;cd `
[02:47] <mojosound> I cannot get the live cd to use my wireless card.  Is there anything I can do?
[02:47] <Jucato> Mac OS X's System Preferences: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/systempreferences/
[02:47] <abattoir> timmynub: is it w/ one particular DVD, or have you tried others? also is it a data DVD or a movie DVD?
[02:47] <snews> timmynub: have you tried k3b ?
[02:47] <intelikey> drop that string in a konsole to see where the device really is
[02:47] <timmynub> intelikey: I changed the mount point to the correct one!
[02:48] <snews> Hi All, Someone can help-me?, i try to install krb5-user as apt-get install krb5-user but says Package krb5-user is not available, how I proceed to install kerberos ?
[02:48] <Ash-Fox> ipsec is such a pain. I prefered the older versions where ipsec had it's own interface name. Playing with iptables to block non-encrypted packets is a bit messy :/
[02:48] <Ash-Fox> (older versions, being the 2.4 kernel)
[02:48] <abattoir> Jucato: aah, i didnt know it was a 'clone'... thought it was a nice design the devs. had come up w/ :P
[02:49] <timmynub> abattoir: tried several, both Data and Movies. Thing is, they all work in my second DVD drive (two in the same machine)
[02:49] <timmynub> snews: can't say I have?
[02:49] <Jucato> thought so too, except for that "nice design" part :P
[02:49] <Jucato> but system settings in Edgy definitely takes the cake :D
[02:49] <abattoir> timmynub: have you tried the same discs in the same drive in another operating system?
[02:49] <abattoir> timmynub: if so does it work there?
[02:50] <timmynub> abattoir: yea, it was working under windows fine, windows died on me yesterday however
[02:50] <arejaytee> trying edgy isnt worth it for a newb yet is it
[02:51] <intelikey> !info krb5-user
[02:51] <ubotu> krb5-user: Basic programs to authenticate using MIT Kerberos. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-5ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 115 kB, installed size 312 kB
[02:51] <snews> Hi All, Someone can help-me?, i try to install krb5-user as apt-get install krb5-user but says Package krb5-user is not available, how I proceed to install kerberos ?
[02:51] <intelikey> snews repeting doesn't help unless you wait a while between
[02:52] <intelikey> snews did you look at the ubotu post ^
[02:52] <intelikey> snews do you have universe enabled in your sources.list ?
[02:52] <intelikey> !repos
[02:52] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:52] <snews> intelikey: how I check if universe is enable?
[02:53] <intelikey>                         ^
[02:53] <NeoSaki> hrm....kernel update?
[02:53] <Jucato> heh
[02:53] <NeoSaki> when did that occur?
[02:53] <snews> intelikey: ok, i will read... thanks
[02:53] <Jucato> seems like hours ago?
[02:53] <intelikey> NeoSaki mine did today
[02:54] <NeoSaki> anyone know what the changes were?
[02:54] <intelikey> haven't even looked at it.
[02:54] <intelikey> you can read the change log
[02:54] <NeoSaki> kk
[02:55] <timmynub> intelikey: thanks for your help, I'm gonna try and swap the drive out for a spare I have and see if that works lol
[02:55] <NeoSaki> i can't wait till Flash 8
[02:55] <NeoSaki> 8.5 release*
[02:55] <intelikey> /usr/share/linux-*/   or /usr/share/doc/linux-*/something
[02:56] <intelikey> timmynub my not being an X user and not liking automount   i wasn't much help.   but yw anyway
[02:56] <NeoSaki> i hope the frglx update addresses my bitch of a problem with running games
[02:57] <Healot> NeoSaki: hint WINE+Firefox
[02:57] <NeoSaki> Healot: Yeah, i know
[02:57] <NeoSaki> but I want Native flash 8.5
[02:58] <NeoSaki> ?
[02:58] <NeoSaki> Ahh
[02:58] <Healot> NeoSaki: be an Adobe developer then....
[02:58] <NeoSaki> intelikey: Why?
[02:58] <NeoSaki> Healot: I don't do Adobe dev
[02:58] <Healot> NeoSaki: heh; bugger
[02:58] <arejaytee> hrmm my buttons have gone missing from konqueror
[02:58] <intelikey> cause i'm compulsive addictive.... i'd dever get anything done as long as there was a game to play.
[02:59] <intelikey> dever/never
[02:59] <arejaytee> dever sounded better
[02:59] <intelikey> the n and the d are just to close togather
[02:59] <NeoSaki> intelikey: funny thing is, i read it like never
[03:00] <NeoSaki> arejaytee: did you apply a theme recently?
[03:00] <psb154> Endever
[03:00] <ubuntu> hi
[03:00] <intelikey> i have no incline why but n gets supstituted for h a lot in my typing.
[03:01] <NeoSaki> anyone have a nice way to get the windows version of FF?
[03:01] <arejaytee> sorta clicked defaults, nothing happened cept the icons
[03:01] <Healot> WINE?
[03:01] <arejaytee> just selected a diff them and then reapplied and its fixed
[03:02] <arejaytee> theme*
[03:02] <intelikey> why would anyone prefer a windows version of a web browser.......................
[03:02] <NeoSaki> Healot I mean the actual proggy
[03:02] <NeoSaki> intelikey: non-native flash 8.5
[03:03] <Healot> go to mozilla's site?
[03:03] <NeoSaki> I wants to watch the transformers vids
[03:03] <NeoSaki> Healot: It autodetects OS
[03:03] <intelikey> NeoSaki that helps me understand nothing.   why would anyone want flash ?
[03:03] <Healot> you can download for other versions
[03:03] <Healot> Youtube!
[03:04] <NeoSaki> Youtube's flash is 7
[03:04] <NeoSaki> the Transformer site is in flash 8
[03:04] <intelikey> heh  dialup.  so smoke that !
[03:04] <danek> hi
[03:05] <arejaytee> i installed flash but youtube aint work
[03:05] <Healot> Other Systems and Languages  >> click on this link... NeoSaki
[03:05] <NeoSaki> Healot: thanks, never noticed that little text down there
[03:05] <Healot> duh
[03:07] <hans> How do I change which tab is the current one in konqueror without using the mouse?
[03:08] <intelikey> well it's 1 pm      some where....  at least that's what my clock says...      wonder why it's displaying gmt ?
[03:08] <intelikey>  [01:08pm] 
[03:09] <hans> It isn't it is displaying UTC
[03:09] <hans> nitpicking i know
[03:09] <intelikey> utc != gmt ???
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> I thouhg they were the same
[03:10] <MenZa> UTC = GMT
[03:10] <intelikey> i thought  utc == gmt
[03:10] <MenZa> Neither have DST.
[03:10] <timmy_> intelikey: must have been the drive, the spare one works perfectly o.0
[03:10] <intelikey> timmy_ that kind of theing can happen.
[03:11] <hans> gmt is utc +30 seconds
[03:11] <arejaytee> Jucato: i cant find the forum i was browsing that had the gnome version
[03:11] <hans> or minus
[03:11] <intelikey> you made me wonder when you said it would work with cd but not dvd...
[03:11] <Jucato> ah
[03:11] <hans> gmt is "earth" time UTC is atomic time
[03:11] <arejaytee> i hate it when that happens
[03:12] <intelikey> anyway  i found the answer.    /etc/adjtime
[03:12] <intelikey> mine should be blank.  it wasnt
[03:12] <intelikey> so atomic time needs adjusted if it's 30 seconds off
[03:13] <intelikey> :)
[03:13] <Eruantalon> No because a seconds is defined as the vibrations of a certain atom
[03:13] <intelikey> last time i checked.  we all still lived on earth not in a nucular reactor
[03:14] <Eruantalon> the weird thing is that gps time is 17 seconds from gmt
[03:14] <lupine_85> earth==giant nuclear reactor
[03:14] <intelikey> so earth time must be the standard.
[03:14] <lupine_85> powered by an even bigger nuclear reactor
[03:14] <Eruantalon> and the russian(?) gps is 25 seconds from
[03:14] <intelikey> earth!=giant nuclear reactor
[03:14] <intelikey> sun==giant nuclear reactor
[03:15] <Eruantalon> intelikey: Any other place that sentence would have been: "earth IS NOT a giant nuclear reactor"
[03:16] <intelikey> !=
[03:17] <NeoSaki> sun==giant FUSION reactor
[03:17] <NeoSaki> ^o^
[03:18] <intelikey> hmm will i have to reboot to affect the change made in /etc/adjtime  ?
[03:18] <lupine_85> fission/fusion is implied, not explicit
[03:18] <intelikey> NeoSaki could be.  i've never been there to see
[03:18] <lupine_85> bit OT though ;)
[03:19] <intelikey> welcome to fscs 101
[03:19] <Jucato> heh
[03:19] <Eruantalon> Hmm I always wondered what is 101?
[03:19] <Eruantalon> not from us
[03:20] <intelikey> don't know.   it looks a lot like   lol
[03:20] <lupine_85> Room 101 :)
[03:20] <Eruantalon> :-D
[03:20] <intelikey> actually  one on one
[03:20] <Jucato> 101 is usually the subject code for basic classes/subjects
[03:21] <Eruantalon> Is 102 then the next?
[03:21] <lupine_85> Orwell had the right idea ;)
[03:21] <intelikey> no advanced is the next
[03:21] <Eruantalon> weird
[03:21] <Jucato> 102 is usually for a more advanced subject for the next semester of the same academic year...
[03:22] <Jucato> so English 101 (frist sem), English 102 (second sem)
[03:22] <Jucato> usually, or at least the way it's done here...
[03:22] <Jucato> 201 is for the 2nd year first sem.
[03:22] <intelikey> 101 == entroductry    one on one  confrontation with the basics
[03:22] <snews> Someone can help-me? I nedde the file /etc/init.d/ntpdate for control the service...  the aplication is installed, but has no script for run..... how proceed?
[03:22] <NeoSaki> snews, rewind and explain
[03:22] <Eruantalon> ok thanks
[03:22] <Jucato> intelikey: hm.. "101" is actually a subject code, afaik
[03:23] <Jucato> it's used in colleges here.
[03:23] <intelikey> Jucato yeah probably.  but it stemed form
[03:23] <Eruantalon> Jucato: usa?
[03:23] <NeoSaki> jucato: what does afaik mean?
[03:23] <Jucato> Eruantalon: nope :P
[03:23] <Eruantalon> as far as i know
[03:23] <Jucato> but our colleges try to imitate US standards as much as they can
[03:23] <snews> I need the script file /etc/init.d/ntpdate for control the app ntpdate, how i buil this ?
[03:24] <v3ctor> snews: there is no such file by default, you should use /etc/ntp.conf
[03:24] <Eruantalon> Where are you?
[03:24] <intelikey> such as iv league colage == league of (iv) roman numeral 4
[03:24] <snews> v3ctor: ok
[03:24] <Jucato> philippines...
[03:24] <Eruantalon> ok
[03:24] <v3ctor> snews: ntpdate is a command you use to set the time/date
[03:25] <Jucato> s/colage/college ?
[03:25] <v3ctor> snews: ntpd will query timeserver regularly and keep it in step
[03:25] <snews> v3ctor: thanks, it's what i need...
[03:25] <NeoSaki> real quick, anyone have any hot kicker mods?
[03:25] <v3ctor> snews: no problem
[03:25] <intelikey> Jucato i don't correct your code.  you leave my spelling alone   :)
[03:26] <Jucato> intelikey: hm.. since when have I had any code? heh
[03:26] <Jucato> but sure, I'll leave your spelling alone :)
[03:28] <intelikey> i can't spell collage   so i wrote a script to check my spelling..... go figure.    (script doesn't work in irc client tho)
[03:28] <Jucato> heh
[03:29] <MenZa> college, intelikey?
[03:29] <intelikey> i could make it work in here.  but it'd get me kicked for flooding.    all my typos....
[03:30] <intelikey> script say "yes (college) is spelled correctly." menza
[03:30] <MenZa> yay
[03:31] <intelikey> it also warns me that ispell is not installed....   heh
[03:31] <intelikey> shows i havent been using it sense the last reload
[03:31] <d11_> how do i get a different spellcheck language installed?
[03:31] <d11_> wich package do i need
[03:32] <internet_> hello
[03:32] <internet_> i have a very small but !:;,!:;nn)_ problem my screen saver in autolock alone
[03:33] <internet_> inkcontrol is disable
[03:33] <internet_> someone have idea
[03:33] <internet_> #kubuntu-fr
[03:34] <internet_> salut les frenchs tuc
[03:34] <internet_> tux
[03:34] <MenZa> internet_: ...?
[03:34] <mojosound> Is there a kubuntu mailing list?
[03:34] <internet_> je suis bloqu avec un verrouillage d'ecran de veille  il se met tout seul
[03:34] <MenZa> internet_: do /j #kubuntu-fr
[03:34] <MenZa> !fr
[03:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:34] <Jucato> mojosound: yes
[03:34] <intelikey> d11_  aspell ispell myspell ?    depends on the app
[03:34] <intelikey> pspell
[03:35] <Jucato> mojosound: here's a list of available mailing lists related to Ubuntu: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/
[03:35] <mojosound> Jucato:  Thanks.
[03:35] <d11_> the one kopete uses
[03:35] <d11_> it keeps highlighting my words (german)
[03:35] <ubuntu> hello world
[03:36] <jatos> hello
[03:36] <ubuntu> hi
[03:37] <egarim> how could i enable mouse gesture in kde ?
[03:37] <divansantana> Does anyone know how to auto logout an inactive KDE Session???
[03:37] <ubuntu> hmm
[03:37] <d11_> intelikey: the one kopete uses
[03:37] <divansantana> Would help in my Kubuntu LTSP enviroment...
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> You dont want to know the Gestures I normally give my computer. :)
[03:37] <intelikey> d11_ you'd have to go into the settings in kopete and see what its using.  or ask someone that knows.
[03:37] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: lol
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> divansantana,  i recall a kde 'koisk' configuration tool. but i dont know if there was an auto-logout feature of it.
[03:38] <Jucato> kiosk...
[03:38] <divansantana> Thats a good place to look! Don't think it has that option though...
[03:38] <Jucato> although "koisk" does sound cute :)
[03:38] <divansantana> I'm going to implement that soon :D
[03:38] <divansantana> Its really good kde-kiosk
[03:39] <d11_> intelikey: aspell
[03:40] <intelikey> d11_ apt-cache search aspell | less
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> i just toyed with kde-koisk the other day
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> locked down my wifes account so she couldent mess with her settings
[03:40] <intelikey> d11_ probably   sudo apt-get install aspell-de
[03:41] <d11_> intelikey: done, thax
[03:41] <divansantana> Dr_Willis Yeah its awesome
[03:42] <divansantana> ciao all
[03:43] <intelikey> what provides the ubuntu configuration scripts "/usr/sbin/update-* "
[03:43] <intelikey> ?
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> hmm let me check
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> apt-file to the rescue
[03:44] <v3ctor> sudo aptitude search ntp
[03:44] <intelikey> v3ctor wrong window ?
[03:45] <v3ctor> no
[03:45] <v3ctor> you can find what packages are associated with ntp
[03:45] <intelikey> but you don't need sudo
[03:45] <arejaytee> ~/ would that mean root?
[03:46] <intelikey> no
[03:46] <intelikey> home
[03:46] <intelikey> ~==$HOME==(your home dir)
[03:46] <intelikey> echo ~
[03:48] <arejaytee> ok ta
[03:48] <v3ctor> oh yeah..forgot
[03:48] <NeoSaki> ooo
[03:48] <NeoSaki> i like kompile
[03:48] <intelikey> echo -e "#!/bin/sh \n\necho $PWD" > whereami ;echo -e "#!/bin/sh \n\necho ~" > wheredoilive ;chmod 755 whereami wheredoilive
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> whereamigoing, wherehaveibeen, wherearemypants
[03:50] <arejaytee> trying to configure conky
[03:50] <intelikey> err actually single quotes not dubble
 whereamigoing ---> /dev/null
 wherehaveibeen <--- /dev/random
[03:51] <intelikey> i'll leave that last one alone..
[03:52] <intelikey> Dr_Willis did you check what provided those scripts ?
[03:52] <d11_> does anyone know if it is possible to boost a micro
[03:52] <d11_> boost a microfone
[03:52] <intelikey> all the update-blah scripts ?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> apt-file seems borked..
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> updating its cache. lets try again
[03:53] <intelikey> yes it is.  you can over drive a mic input pretty easily tho
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> its still updating. :( heh
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> well update-grub is provided grub
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> provided by
[03:53] <intelikey> yeah it wants a 2 hour dl for me,  hense i don't use it.
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> update-alternatives is with dpkg
[03:54] <intelikey> well update-default-?spell is not provided by ?spell  cause when i install ?spell it cant find the update script
[03:55] <intelikey> could be dpkg   i'll reload it and see
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> that is in dictionaries common
[03:55] <arejaytee> bahaha i just renamed a file .something i gotta rename it through cli dont i lol
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> dictionaries-common: /usr/sbin/update-default-aspell
[03:56] <intelikey> what about update-menus ?
[03:56] <Jucato> intelikey: I heard something from the mailing lists that update-menus doesn't comply with fdo standards?
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> no idea (I don't have it installed) who needs menu's anyway
[03:59] <intelikey> Jucato most of those scripts are perl scripts  imo that don't comply with intelikey standards
[03:59] <Jucato> lol
[03:59] <intelikey> :)
[04:02] <intelikey> odd  according to ispell and aspell  both collage and college are spelled correctly.  but i can't find collage in the websters dictionary    are my spelling programs in error or is the word missing form the dictionary ?
[04:03] <intelikey> oh wait. it's the 1825 version of the dictionary.  the later spelling wont be in there
[04:03] <intelikey> nm
[04:04] <d11_> what sources do i need do get w32codecs
[04:04] <d11_> i cant find them
[04:04] <Jucato> d11_: you have to download them manually
[04:04] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[04:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:04] <Jucato> go to that RestrictedFormats page for the download instructions
[04:04] <Riddick> if you open up multiverse there is a lib-extracodecs or something like that
[04:04] <Riddick> should make it apt-obtainable
[04:05] <Jucato> Riddick: w32codecs isn't available in any of the official ubuntu repos
[04:05] <arejaytee> whats the command to show hidden files? was in that link u posted me first time i came here Jucato
[04:05] <arejaytee> ones with . in front
[04:05] <intelikey> Riddick it's a leagle issue.
[04:05] <Riddick> hmmm  well i know you can get a deb source
[04:06] <Jucato> hm... ls -al ?
[04:06] <Riddick> thats how i usually install them  i just can't remember where i obtained them the last time i setup
[04:06] <Riddick> its been a while
[04:06] <intelikey> don't want the whole project sewed for M$-illions  now do we.
[04:07] <Jucato> arejaytee: "ls -al" I guess?
[04:07] <arejaytee> yeah thats its thanks dude
[04:07] <intelikey> -A
[04:07] <intelikey> ls -a
[04:07] <intelikey> ls -A
[04:07] <intelikey> i like -A
[04:07] <Riddick> setup an alias for ls -al so when you type ls you get a full list   makes it easy that way
[04:08] <intelikey> but are you sure you want -l  ?
[04:09] <Jucato> hm.. ok.. "ls -a" will list all files, including hidden ones. "ls -al" will list all files, in long/detailed format <-- arejaytee
[04:09] <Riddick> i do when i am using console   if i have too many in a list then i do | more
[04:09] <intelikey> alias ls='/bin/ls --color=auto -HAs'
[04:09] <intelikey> i like that alias ^
[04:11] <arejaytee> bahaha almost typed del .conkyrc lol
[04:11] <arejaytee> rm!!!!
[04:11] <arejaytee> showing the noobness
[04:12] <intelikey> RJT hehhe :)
[04:12] <Riddick> be sure you know what you are del'ing when you do rm -rf especially as super user
[04:13] <intelikey> be sure you know what your doing when you add -r  to anything   or  -R
[04:13] <Riddick> you can go from great running machine to hosed in a matter of one key stroke
[04:13] <intelikey> something as simple as chmod 644   can get ugly with -R appended.    cause that's no-exec and dirs have to be exec'd
[04:14] <intelikey> and back again... depending on what you do... :)
[04:15] <intelikey> so BE SURE AND ALWAYS START EVERY COMMAND WITH   "sudo"  !!!
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> alias dir = 'echo *'
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:16] <intelikey> yeah  that works.
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> actually its amazing how handy 'echo *' or echo *.txt or whatver can be
[04:16] <intelikey> :)
[04:16] <pierreth> Does someone knows where the kde keyboard shortcuts are located?
[04:17] <Jucato> pierreth: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:17] <intelikey> well i think i'll look at the new kernel updates....   see yous guys laters,  k ?
[04:18] <pierreth> Jucato: no, the file I mean, this is crashing
[04:18] <Jucato> pierreth: are you on KDE 3.5.4?
[04:18] <pierreth> Jucato: yes
[04:18] <Al> Can I make Konqueror default to file browser mode?
[04:18] <pierreth> Jucato: This is a bug
[04:19] <Jucato> pierreth: ah, only the Command Shortcuts tab crash. but you can run kcontrol instead
[04:19] <pierreth> I can run kcontrol
[04:19] <pierreth> i cannot use this tab
[04:20] <pierreth> i want to fix the shortcuts manually
[04:20] <pierreth> do you know where this file is?
[04:21] <arejaytee> conky or superkaramba
[04:22] <Jucato> pierreth: what do you mean you cannot use the tab in KControl
[04:22] <pierreth> Jucato: clicking on it makes KControl crash so I cannot go there
[04:23] <Jucato> pierreth: hm.. KControl is different from System Settings
[04:23] <pierreth> Jucato: ?? What is the difference?
[04:23] <acidic32> ooo soz
[04:23] <acidic32> Sysinfo for 'huggy': Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDSempron3000+ at 1808 MHz (3621 bogomips), , RAM: 483/500MB, 97 proc's, 1.2h up
[04:23] <acidic32> :(
[04:23] <acidic32> didnt mean to do that
[04:23] <Jucato> pierreth: press Alt+F2 and type in "kcontrol"
[04:24] <NeoSaki> how do I enable Firefox to be able to run downloaded files?
[04:24] <pierreth> Jucato: OK, this one is working
[04:25] <Jucato> told you so :P
[04:28] <Wendelin> Hello! I am havinbg to minor problems belonging into the Catogory:Annoyances: First, After having my KDE personalized, KPersonalizer pops every time up I log into my account. How do I prevent to start Kpersonalizer?
[04:28] <acidic32> how do i change KDM to GDM?
[04:28] <d11_> can someone help me plz: i have a mic which needs boosting but i cant find the mic boost option. its supposed to be in the kmix switches dialog right? but on my laptop it is nowhere to be found
[04:29] <pierreth> Jucato: but the preferences are still crashing
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> acidic32: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm (or gdm) either will work
[04:30] <pierreth> Jucato: this is happening when an application having a shortcut is uninstalled
[04:30] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:30] <pierreth> Jucato: I made a report about the bug
[04:31] <arejaytee> hrmm kbfx dont wanna work for me
[04:31] <Jucato> yeah I think I confirmed it
[04:31] <pierreth> Jucato: You can try it :-)
[04:31] <Jucato> btw, which "preferences" is still crashing?
[04:31] <Wendelin> How do I prevent kpersonalizer to pop up each time I log into my system?
[04:31] <pierreth> Jucato: The system preferences is crashing while kcontrol works well
[04:32] <Jucato> pierreth: ah system settings (system preferences is OS X :P)
[04:32] <Jucato> yes I have conifirmed that bug report and have mentioned it already
[04:32] <pierreth> sorry, this is where I came from :-)
[04:33] <Jucato> heh, figures :P
[04:36] <arejaytee> whats the menu edit prog?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> kmenuedit ?
[04:37] <Jucato> grr..
[04:37] <Jucato> fast typing...
[04:37] <gambix> hi
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Hah
[04:37] <gambix> if someone can help me ...
[04:37] <Jucato> for someone who's sick :P
[04:37] <arejaytee> lol yeah was trying to find a shortcut to it
[04:38] <gambix> my sister want absolutely to have dbl click icon management on she's desktop ... but i don't remember how to configure that...
[04:38] <gambix> if someone remember that...
[04:39] <Hawkwind> gambix: You want double click or single click ?
[04:39] <gambix> double
[04:39] <Hawkwind> gambix: Either way, it's in kcontrol -> Periphereals -> Mouse
[04:39] <Pensacola> I hope the updated linux kernel doesn't mess up this instalation :)
[04:39] <gambix> Hawkwind: yop :)  thanks a lot...
[04:40] <arejaytee> hrmm how come i got games and such in kmenuedit but they aint showing up>
[04:41] <arejaytee> and i right clicked on the menu last time that why i couldnt find shortcut lol
[04:41] <Jucato> arejaytee: empty menus/submenus don't show up
[04:41] <ubuntu> well, I will check that out later
[04:42] <arejaytee> ahh ima dumbarse
[04:44] <cox377_> does anuyone know if thre is a way to get kopete to sign in automaticayy?
[04:44] <kubuntu> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:45] <kubuntu> kubuntu .fr !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:45] <Trollinator> kubuntu: stfu
[04:45] <Trollinator> cox377: there is
[04:45] <kubuntu> lol
[04:45] <abattoir> cox377_: sure
[04:45] <Jucato> Trollinator: please watch the language
[04:45] <abattoir> cox377_: Settings-Configure Kopete->Behaviour...
[04:45] <kubuntu> me nob novice
[04:45] <cox377_> Trollinator: how so man?
[04:46] <abattoir> cox377_: ...General->Misc.
[04:46] <kubuntu> me novice kubuntu
[04:46] <kubuntu> me possible kubuntu fr !!
[04:47] <cox377_> abattoir: nice one mate, cheers fort hat
[04:47] <abattoir> !fr
[04:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:47] <cox377_> for that*
[04:47] <abattoir> kubuntu: ^^^
[04:47] <abattoir> cox377_: you're welcome :(
[04:47] <abattoir> * :)
[04:47] <kubuntu> thank you me friend ...............
[04:47] <kubuntu> bye
[04:47] <abattoir> kubuntu: :)
[04:49] <arejaytee> wheres startup control in kcontrol
[04:50] <ubuntu__> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:50] <ubuntu__> me noob !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:51] <Tm_T> ok
[04:51] <Jucato> hm..
[04:51] <Jucato> definitely the same person... if he comes back again...
[04:54] <arejaytee> hrmm i cant remember how i got yakuake to startup on reboots lol
[04:55] <chrismir> !frostwire
[04:55] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:55] <abattoir> arejaytee: KDE components->Session mgmt.
[04:55] <Jucato> arejaytee: put a link to yakuake in ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[04:55] <abattoir> arejaytee: if that's what you mean
[04:55] <Jucato> or that
[04:56] <abattoir> arejaytee: if you log out w/ yakuake open and have session mgmt. on, it should be opened on next restart
[04:56] <arejaytee> yeah maybe thats what i did lol
[04:56] <arejaytee> 1am my brain aint working lol
[04:56] <arejaytee> yeah restore prev session is on
[05:14] <arejaytee> anyone ftp progs that support ssl?
[05:14] <Jucato> arejaytee: doesn't konqueror support ssl? "ftp:/"
[05:16] <Dannilion> konqueror supports sftp as well
[05:17] <Jucato> Dannilion!! hi!! :)
[05:18] <Dannilion> Hey :)
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> and fish:\\
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> or is it fish://
[05:20] <Jucato> fish:/
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> or is it fish://///////////////////////////////////
[05:20] <Jucato> but I would prefer pork:/ or beef:/ myself...
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> once they start using more then 1 / - it gets screwy
[05:20] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: come on
[05:20] <racookier> hi, i need to install second ethernet card ???
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> or is it fish:/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\  (waves.. get it?)
[05:21] <Jucato> they look more like mountains...
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> racookier: Put it in run /sbin/ifconfig -a see if its there - edit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> or is it fish:/~\/~\/~\/~\  (waves.. get it?)
[05:21] <riri> racookier just install it
[05:21] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: quit it
[05:21] <Jucato> nope, volcanos
[05:21] <Jucato> volcanoes*
[05:22] <Jucato> ~~~~~~ (waves)
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> the whole fish:/ and other kisoslaves - is a very Cool feature
[05:22] <Jucato> I probaly love apt:/ the most
[05:22] <Jucato> heh
[05:22] <copita> vineriseara
[05:22] <copita> #vineriseara
[05:24] <Frederick> foks anyone else here having problems to debug applications wich use magick core and magick wand? I cant debug them on gdb nor ddd
[05:24] <arejaytee> my friggin taskbar has disappeared
[05:25] <racookier> don't work
[05:25] <abattoir> arejaytee: 'kicker' should get it back, if the whole panel has disappeared
[05:25] <arejaytee> just wont show up, i have to go to desktop and middle click to bring this up bahaha
[05:25] <Jucato> arejaytee: try pressing Alt+F2 and running "kicker"
[05:26] <abattoir> arejaytee: if it hasnt, try rt. click->add applet->Taskbar
[05:26] <abattoir> arejaytee: you have switched Hiding on?
[05:26] <abattoir> or auto-hide
[05:26] <arejaytee> auto hide like 4 days ago
[05:27] <Jucato> ah it might have been just dragged somewhere else
[05:27] <alessandropironi> can anybody help me with printing? There is a way to print in dapper?
[05:27] <arejaytee> thought thatn aswell lol
[05:27] <arejaytee> happened when i closed gftp
[05:27] <Jucato> Alt+F2, "systemsettings" (one word) then look for it in the Panel settings
[05:27] <Jucato> if, and only if, it's already running in the first place :)
[05:29] <arejaytee> lol wierd, i changed a setting and then applied and the it showed back up
[05:29] <arejaytee> running real slow now
[05:30] <draik> Hey there Jucato
[05:30] <Jucato> draik: !!
[05:30] <arejaytee> thanks guys
[05:30] <draik> I just went through another enjoyable delight of not having X
[05:31] <Jucato> ouch?
[05:31] <draik> Good thing this is so common for me that its routine
[05:31] <abattoir> draik: heh
[05:31] <Jucato> draik: what happened?
[05:31] <draik> I went through my System Settings and input my actual Monitor and Video Card...
[05:32] <draik> they were "untested" or something similar...
[05:32] <Jucato> oh...
[05:32] <draik> so when I shut down last night, the updates happened on this start
[05:32] <draik> abattoir, it happened again... "WELCOME TO 3.5.4"
[05:33] <abattoir> draik: arent you *on* 3.5.4?
[05:33] <draik> How many welcomes can you receive before it no longer feels welcomed
[05:33] <draik> yeah
[05:33] <abattoir> or do you mean 3.5.2 or something else?
[05:33] <draik> but I receive that "WELCOME" every time I boot
[05:33] <Jucato> draik: heh.. kpersonalizer bug
[05:33] <draik> oh yay
[05:33] <abattoir> draik: or do you mean kpersonalizer
[05:33] <abattoir> heh
[05:33] <Jucato> you have finally been hit...
[05:33] <draik> no, it's 3.5.4
[05:33] <draik> brb...
[05:35] <steveire> !ipv6
[05:35] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> Why does !ipv6 not even mention anything whatsoever about using ipv6 ?
[05:37] <lupine_85> hehe
[05:37] <lupine_85> IPv6 is cool
[05:37] <lupine_85> but none of the ubuntu GUI config tools support it
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> Surely either it should be disabled by default or there should be some information about using it (with a ipv6 to ipv4 gateway if necessary)
[05:39] <Firetech> hummz, my mimelnk-directory isn't synced with my profilerc settings (some mimetypes are only in profilerc), how to fix?
[05:39] <snarf> whats the diff between using aptitude and apt-get to install stuff?
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> snarf: /var/log/aptitude
[05:41] <snarf> i do not understand.
[05:42] <draik> back
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> snarf: apt-get doesn't log what it does - aptitude does
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> hence if you use aptitude then you can remove unused dependancies also
[05:43] <snarf> oh, thanks
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> there is still the dpkg logfile but that doesn't provide enough information
[05:44] <Trollinator> apt-get is actually junk compared to aptitude :o)
[05:44] <miyako> I think there needs to be an uninstaller called teg-tpa
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> Trollinator: apt-get does have some features that aptitude does not have
[05:45] <Trollinator> like what?
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> apt-get source
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> apt-get build-dep
[05:46] <Jucato> apt-get policy and apt-get madison
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> they are apt-cache
[05:46] <Jucato> err..
[05:46] <Jucato> sorry
[05:46] <Jucato> :P
[05:46] <Trollinator> dito :o)
[05:47] <miyako> I use apt-cache search more than anything else
[05:48] <miyako> well, actually I probably use it less than apt-get install, since I generally search for fewer packaged than I install, but apt-cache search is handy when you need it
[05:48] <arejaytee> damnit i wont some eps and need ssl, konqueror isnt enabling it lol keeps saying use secure access
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> I use aptitude search \~ilinux~nimage (for example)
[05:48] <Jucato> same here...
[05:48] <arejaytee> want*
[05:48] <Jucato> anyway, I've aliased most of the apt-get and aptitude commands so sometimes I forget which one I use
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> doing the same with apt-cache requires awk and | 's
[05:53] <ubuntu> alo
[05:53] <Aikurn> does anyone have this bug in Amarok? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i23525
[05:54] <Aikurn> "Etiqueta - Valor" is repeated
[05:58] <ep> Can't change fonts "Configure Konsole..." opens an error dialog window. "kcm_konsole.la" not found in paths. Possible reason : orphaned control module left from last KDE upgrade.  How to fix?
[06:00] <ep> Another kubuntu problem, possibly related:  Configure display module is missing from both "System Settings" and "Kcontrol"
[06:00] <draik> This is a confusing upgrade... linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686 (2.6.15.11-4)
[06:02] <ep> Here's a pet peeve these read only error displays should allow the user to select the error message in order to google them verbatim.
[06:03] <draik> well, with the last one anyway
[06:09] <acidic32> where would i find res_mkquery?
[06:09] <d11> can i upgrade alsa to 1.0.11? if so how?
[06:10] <acidic32> thought it was libc
[06:10] <acidic32> but its installed yet it cant be found..
[06:10] <h3sp4wn> d11: What do you need from 1.0.11 ?
[06:10] <d11> the boost mic switch
[06:10] <d11> its missing atm
[06:11] <d11> h3sp4wn: and i dont know why
[06:11] <h3sp4wn> d11: Do you know it is definately fixed in 1.0.11 ?
[06:11] <d11> h3sp4wn: i asked in the alsa channel and someone told to update
[06:11] <d11> no
[06:13] <steveire> I use dapper. What version of KDE do I use, or how do I find out?
[06:13] <arunkale> 3.5.4 likely
[06:13] <abattoir> steveire: should be 3.5.2
[06:13] <abattoir> steveire: Help->About KDE
[06:14] <abattoir> steveire: ...unless you upgraded to 3.5.4
[06:14] <d11> h3sp4wn: no i dont, but worth a try or not... or is it too unstable
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> d11: It is not unstable but you would have to either try edgy or backport it yourself (it can go wrong)
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> where is the latest kubuntu alternate iso downlaod page?
[06:15] <steveire> 3.5.2. I'm trying to get kate to be my python magician.http://kate.kde.org/3rdparty.php
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> that have the latest upgraded 3.5.4 kde etc
[06:16] <d11> h3sp4wn: have u ever heard of the mic boost switch not being there?
[06:16] <MetaMorfoziS> steveire: 3.5.2 is very old and bugous... i you need to update
[06:16] <MetaMorfoziS> i-
[06:16] <steveire> I recently dist-upgraded. It's more complicated than that then?
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> d11: Never had any hardware that has had that (I use m-audio stuff - sounds decent +4 outputs works pretty well in linux - If I need to record from a mic I just use a mixer with 2 1/4 inch jack outputs into the inputs of the card)
[06:19] <tb> Question: Anybody know what software I need to pipe amarok through airtunes speakers?
[06:20] <octan> airtunes speakers?
[06:22] <Raul12> how to configure boot for kbuntu, slackware,mips
[06:22] <tb> octan. Sorry. Airport express with speakers connected.
[06:23] <octan> tb join #amarok
[06:24] <tb> will try that. Although I believe it's more setting up a virtual device
[06:24] <MetaMorfoziS> so where can i download kubuntu?
[06:24] <MetaMorfoziS> that have the latest kde
[06:24] <MetaMorfoziS> and upgraded...
[06:25] <octan> homepage
[06:27] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[06:27] <octan> tb, maybe this will help
[06:27] <Jucato> but I would personally suggest staying with KDE 3.5.3...
[06:28] <MetaMorfoziS> no.
[06:28] <octan> tb,  http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060602065532384
[06:28] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to present it to my friend who wan to try it out
[06:28] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: ah you mean Edgy?
[06:28] <tb> octan thanks. Will look.
[06:28] <MetaMorfoziS> and i don't want him to try the bugous 3.5.2
[06:28] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[06:28] <MetaMorfoziS> dapper
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> 3.5.2 is the most tested version
[06:29] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: that's the only thing that Dapper has. Dapper ships with KDE 3.5.2. you can upgrade to KDE 3.5.3 or KDE 3.5.4 from the Kubuntu packages
[06:29] <jbirdAngel> Hello
[06:29] <MetaMorfoziS> it's lol.
[06:29] <jbirdAngel> ot, anyone here want to help me with a php script im getting errors on
[06:29] <MetaMorfoziS> why not an uptodate iso avaialble?
[06:29] <tb> octan Ooohhh. Looks just about right. Will print & peruse. Much thanks :)
[06:29] <Jucato> but official support for KDE in Dappe stops at 3.5.2
[06:29] <MetaMorfoziS> when i downlaod the cd i need to download again a half or more cd to upgrade it?
[06:29] <MetaMorfoziS> it's lol...
[06:29] <MetaMorfoziS> imho.
[06:29] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: because Edgy Eft, the next Kubuntu release will be out by october
[06:30] <octan> tb np.. hope it works tho
[06:30] <Frederick> folks anyone having problems with kdevelop beeing unable to set breakpoints using non std libs in c?
[06:30] <tb> ah. Mac-specific software needed :(
[06:31] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: Dapper is LTS or Long Term Support. It's meant to be a stable release, supported for 5 years. that's why there are no new Kubuntu Dapper ISO's with an updated KDE
[06:32] <MetaMorfoziS> bargh...
[06:34] <Raul12> how to configure boot for kbuntu, slackware,mips
[06:34] <draik> Jucato, desktop is 3 years, server 5 years... IIRC
[06:35] <Jucato> draik: your probably right. didn't check :P
[06:35] <Raul12> can any 1 help ???
[06:35] <draik> something about desktop is usually 18 months, this time its doubled to 3 years... something like that
[06:36] <Raul12>  :|
[06:36] <draik> Raul12, you mean your GRUB?
[06:36] <Raul12> yup
[06:37] <Raul12> modifing grub 4 kbuntu,slackware,mips
[06:37] <draik> do you know where your / are?
[06:37] <draik> GRUB is located in      /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:37] <Raul12> k
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> tripple booting 3 disrtos.. will get.. ineresting
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> You will have to increase your Grub-Fu Grasshopper!
[06:38] <Raul12> yup
[06:38] <draik> ehh, it's do-able
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> yep its doable.
[06:38] <Raul12> when i install 1 other getdeleted
[06:38] <draik> LOL @ Dr_Willis
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> not too hard really. its just in the details.
[06:38] <draik> oh yea
[06:38] <octan> tb
[06:38] <Raul12> slackware use lilo
[06:39] <Raul12> kubuntu use grub
[06:39] <octan> tb, http://raop-play.sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=119473&package_id=130187
[06:40] <Raul12> any sugessions ?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> you can have each disrto on its own hard drive makes it a little easier.. :P
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> Raul12: How are you running kubuntu / slackware on a mips processor ?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> i think you can put the boot records for each disrto on their own partition. and chain load.. but that can be a bigger pain
[06:41] <lupine_85> modify slackware so it boots from grub?
[06:41] <lupine_85> grub++
[06:41] <tb> You can edit the (whassitcalled) grub config to point to the kde partition & initrd. I've done it (on the other machine, sorry).
[06:41] <octan> if you install kubuntu after a slackware install.. the kubuntu install will fix a grub with both slackware and kubuntu boot
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> if you are lucky :)
[06:42] <octan> ive always been lucky in that case :p
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> or just run slackware inside vmware on the ubunut setup
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> ive had the NORMAL grub setup break on my machine.
[06:42] <Raul12> kubuntu,slackware and MEPIS on my secondary hard drive
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> with 1 disrto. Lol.. silly update-grub got confused as to what drive was hda and hdc
[06:43] <octan> lol
[06:43] <Raul12> 1st hard drive windows
[06:43] <main2> my nvidia driver 'says' in my xorg.log that it only validates 3 modes (1024/800../640..) on a 19" well configured monitor (iiyama)
[06:43] <main2> im using the right settings i think (in xorg), but how can it be that it doesnt detect the higher modes? :(
[06:43] <draik> These new kernel upgrades are breaking my GRUB to my 3rd HDD, which isn't meant to boot anymore
[06:43] <Raul12> when i try to install mepis it messing up
[06:44] <Raul12> \COMMENT any1
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Other then - dump mepis? :P
[06:46] <Raul12> hmm
[06:46] <Raul12> but i dunn want to dump
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> or learn how to edit the grub menus and let one disrto handle the grub configuration
[06:46] <Raul12> ok
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> and some how hope the others dont trash it when they install
[06:47] <Raul12> any thought where i can find help on edting grub menus
[06:47] <Raul12> Dr_
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> Anything inside the debian automagic kernel section will be overwritten by update-grub
[06:50] <kristina> how to install cvscedega???????????
[06:50] <kristina> can somebody help me
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> I have never managed to get it working properly - but there is a script on linux-gamers called wine_cvs.sh (or something like that)
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> you need to install directx 9 from microsoft
[06:53] <Raul12> how can u install directx on linux ??
[06:53] <Raul12> h3sp4wn
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> It is under cvscedega
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> (which is a wine fork)
[06:53] <Raul12> oh
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Grub is very very very well documented on the web. and the grub homepage is the de-facto site.
[06:54] <Raul12> k
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: Tried grub2 ?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Ive never had to install directx on cedega.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn,  not had the need. :)
[06:54] <kristina> can somebody help to install direct x & winw
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> To get evercrack working - it needed directx 9c under cedega (for my brother)
[06:55] <h3sp4wn> still didn't work right
[06:55] <instructor> Aj Kubuntu needs nice fonts
[06:55] <draik> is there a way to view fonts?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Best thing you can do for EverCrack is... well.. never mind...
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: Don't play it
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: That is the best solution (I have not played it for 6 years)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn,  i was thinking more of using a Hammer on the person.. "Tough Love!"
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> or point out how the game is the same thing over and over and over. :)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> or how the idea of "Agrro" is silly
[06:57] <draik> I'll go with the "Tough Love" option :)
[06:58] <abattoir> draik: fonts:/ in konq.
[06:58] <draik> Thank you abattoir
[06:58] <abattoir> draik: that shows all installed fonts
[06:59] <abattoir> draik: clicking on one should bring up kfontview
[06:59] <octan> how does dbus work?
[07:00] <octan> can i use dbus to get info from a app like i can with dcop?
[07:00] <instructor> Message passing
[07:00] <instructor> !dbus
[07:00] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 316 kB, installed size 700 kB
[07:00] <octan> yay.. you made me wize now :P
[07:00] <instructor> octan: That's the eventual goal I think :)
[07:01] <octan> so howto?
[07:01] <octan> dbus appname?
[07:01] <octan> *instruct me :P
[07:02] <instructor> http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-faq.html
[07:02] <octan> aha,, thank you
[07:02] <instructor> http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-faq.html#dcop
[07:03] <draik> How do I get my Menu bar to work? Seems like it won't respond to anything. I have it hidden and *should* open when I go down to the bottom left corner. It won't come up.
[07:04] <draik> is it kicker?
[07:04] <octan> man dcop is so much simpler
[07:04] <instructor> yup
[07:04] <instructor> draik: Alt+F1?
[07:04] <draik> ALT+F1 works, but not with the mouse
[07:05] <draik> I went into "Configure Panel" and re-selected Bottom Left Corner. Works now
[07:10] <Jucato> ???
[07:10] <MetaMorfoziS> is teher!printer
[07:10] <MetaMorfoziS> !printer
[07:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:11] <psb154> !RAID0
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RAID0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <Jucato> !raid
[07:11] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:11] <psb154> ta
[07:12] <Stardog> whats the adress for the irc undernet?
[07:21] <[GuS] > Hi!!! Hello people!... someone knows why the  fonts goes more little (but is the same size in systemsettings, 9) after upgrated to Edgy?
[07:23] <||arifaX> [GuS] , generally or in a special program?
[07:23] <[GuS] > in general
[07:23] <[GuS] > exept gtk ones
[07:23] <||arifaX> then no idea from me
[07:23] <[GuS] > yeah... is weird---
[07:24] <[GuS] > is the same size.. and the same font as in dapper
[07:24] <[GuS] > buts looks more little
[07:25] <jmw> newbie here- for ubuntu and kubuntu - is there a best wireless card - that will just plug in and work? am wired for now orusing  winxp withDlink  DWL 520rev E
[07:25] <MarcC> how do I refresh the KMenu so it shows an app I installed?
[07:26] <JosephRivers> if i've downloaded a debian package, what command can I use to install it?
[07:26] <Jucato> MarcC: type "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in Konsole (ignore the error messages)
[07:27] <seth> JosephRivers, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the.deb
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> JosephRivers: debian is not binary compatible with ubuntu
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> JosephRivers: You can only use debian source (most of the time)
[07:27] <jmw> rivers- what package did u get?
[07:27] <JosephRivers> h3sp4wn: this should probably work it's the opera browser. Thanks for the warning though.
[07:28] <[GuS] > JosephRivers, you have for dapper too
[07:28] <[GuS] > that app...
[07:28] <seth> JosephRivers, you can install the Opera browser through Adept
[07:28] <h3sp4wn> JosephRivers: There is a specific ubuntu version in the dapper-commercial repository
[07:28] <MarcC> Jucato: thanks, I did that but it didn't show the games I just installed...sgt-puzzles
[07:29] <JosephRivers> h3sp4wn: I've had some bad experiences with the versions in Adept-- I prefer to install them directly from their web site if I can.
[07:29] <seth> JosephRivers, add the repository deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[07:29] <Jucato> MarcC: some apps/games, like 3D chess, don't really show up in the menu
[07:29] <MarcC> ok, thanks...although it's a pain because that package includes about 20 games :D
[07:30] <leander_> hallo
[07:30] <ubuntu> hello
[07:30] <leander_> ik werk voor het eerst met linux en probeer mmplayer te installeren
[07:30] <leander_> kan iemand me helpen?
[07:30] <ubuntu> I've tried this CD now
[07:30] <ubuntu> It's great
[07:31] <seth> !nl
[07:31] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[07:31] <steveire> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1502857#post1502857 <<< Can I gt some help for this?
[07:31] <steveire> get*
[07:31] <leander_> ik ben nieuw in linux (kubuntu) en probeer mmplayer te installeren, kan iemand me helpen?
[07:32] <instructor>  leander_: Which language is that?
[07:32] <steveire> looks dutch
[07:32] <leander_> dutch, enlish is ok
[07:33] <steveire> It reads like german. I understand it anyway.
[07:33] <leander_> i'm new to linux and i trie to install mplayer, can someone help me?
[07:33] <steveire> Did you use spt-get and what happened?
[07:33] <dlissner> hello
[07:33] <instructor> I was thinking it looked kind of german
[07:33] <steveire> apt-get*
[07:33] <dlissner> may someone quickly tell me the command to unpack tar.gz' in the konsole?
[07:33] <instructor> leander_: You can ask in #ubuntu-nl as well
[07:33] <steveire> they are very similar languages
[07:34] <leander_> ok
[07:34] <dlissner> surprisingly searching for it in google got me nowhere
[07:34] <h3sp4wn> dlissner: tar xvfz blah.tar.gz
[07:35] <dlissner> what does the xvfc do and can i specify a dir?
[07:36] <instructor> dlissner: You can't x && c
[07:36] <dlissner> oh ok
[07:36] <instructor> One is to extract from a file and c is to compress to a file
[07:36] <instructor> Can't do both at the same time
[07:37] <yamla> I want to install Kubuntu 6.06 (64-bit) on a machine.  The machine is plenty powerful enough.  HOWEVER, it has no optical drives and currently no operating system.  Any way to get Kubuntu installed using a floppy drive, a usb key, or an external hard drive?
[07:37] <instructor> Network?
[07:38] <yamla> It has a working network connection.
[07:38] <MarcC> install over the network
[07:38] <yamla> Can someone point me to a web page which discusses installing over a network?
[07:39] <MarcC> hm...maybe the easy way to do it now is to grab the image from another machine on the network
[07:40] <yamla> MarcC, do you mean install to an external hard drive, boot from that hard drive (possibly in read-only mode), then dd the partition across or something like that?
[07:41] <dcmr> does anyone else have a problem where firefox cuts off the bottom of pages when printing?
[07:41] <h3sp4wn> You can just setup netboot using tftp
[07:41] <[-KaSatKa-] > What package do i need to install to have php support for my apache2 server?
[07:41] <yamla> netboot would be something like http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install right?  That looks easy enough.
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> yep
[07:42] <MarcC> yeah, there are instructions out there but I haven't done it (the PXE stuff)
[07:42] <yamla> Okay, thanks everyone.  I'll try that out.  I'm happily running Kubuntu on a number of other systems, by the way.
[07:42] <MarcC> right on, for work or pleasure?
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> I think tftpd-hpa is the easiest tftp server to use
[07:43] <h3sp4wn> (don't know what they suggest)
[07:43] <yamla> Work and pleasure.  Kubuntu on a PVR box, Kubuntu on my main desktop (work) and on my laptop (with a custom kernel, damn ASUS laptops).
[07:43] <MarcC> heh, nice...PVR running mythtv?
[07:44] <yamla> PVR running mythtv, yes.  It was a bit of a hassle to get set up but now works well.  And with built-in support for my USB 802.11g network card thing, I can perform remote backups quite easily.
[07:44] <MarcC> very cool :)
[07:45] <instructor> dcmr: Not heard of that
[07:45] <yamla> Oh, and the Kubuntu systems are running distcc so my compiles are very fast.  :)
[07:45] <yamla> Okay, I'm off to try a network install.  Wish me luck.
[07:45] <MarcC> good luck
[07:48] <instructor> can someone give me an interactive program that doesn't have network dependecies?
[07:48] <lupine_85> for...
[07:48] <MarcC> tetravex?
[07:48] <Tm_T> instructor: deck of cards
[07:48] <Tm_T> box of legos
[07:49] <instructor> barbie
[07:49] <instructor> lupine_85: I'm testing a HereDoc
[07:49] <instructor> But the network latency messes up the order of the commands
[07:50] <instructor> Never mind Python seems to work :)
[07:58] <dcmr> could someone help me with a firefox printing problem?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Is there a howto on antialising fonts for KDE 3.5.4?
[08:02] <ep> Instructions on kubuntu.org tell me "You will also need the dapper-updates reponsitory enabled."   How do I do this?
[08:03] <Stardog> !frostwire
[08:03] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:03] <MarcC> !repositories
[08:03] <DaSkreech> ep: In adept go Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[08:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Look for a line that says dapper-updates and make sure it's enabled
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Sweet :)
[08:06] <Stardog> tried installing frostwire from www.ubuntuguide.org like downloading a deb file an then installing... but when clicking it.. .nothing happends
[08:07] <lupine_85> right-click and choose install....
[08:07] <NeoSaki> damn you lupine
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Stardog: Right click it and you should get a install package option
[08:07] <NeoSaki> beat me to it
[08:07] <ep> DaSkreech: thanks, I can do that.  I've never used adept.  usually i do command line or sometimes synaptic.  I'm trying to learn.
[08:07] <lupine_85> mwahahaha
[08:07] <Stardog> DaSkreech: did it via terminal... and it shows in the start menu... but no windows opens :o
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Stardog: You have Java installed?
[08:10] <DaSkreech> ep: No problem make sure the lines with dapper-updates in /etc/apt/sources.list are not commented out
[08:11] <Stardog> yup... or atleast... java works in opera :p
[08:12] <Vegeta^> Is it possible to enable/disable the wireless netcard by assigning the short-key "Fn+F2" to it (on a laptop)?
[08:12] <ep> I asked the wrong question maybe.  There is no "dapper update" line because I have breezy.  How do I  update from breezy to dapper easily?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Stardog: did you do the update-alternatives ?
[08:13] <Stardog> one sec
[08:14] <DaSkreech> sudo update-alternatives java IIRC
[08:15] <Stardog> but i have 3 alternatives... wich one i choose?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Sun
[08:18] <Stardog> it worked DaSkreech; somehow.. i dont't know... but thx :D
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Well Ubuntu time
[08:20] <ironfroggy> how can i get something to recognize a filename with a # in it?
[08:21] <v3ctor> escape the #
[08:21] <v3ctor>  with \#
[08:21] <ironfroggy> what does # mean at the shell then?
[08:21] <v3ctor> comment
[08:21] <v3ctor> means ignore all after #
[08:21] <ironfroggy> its not taking it as a comment
[08:22] <ironfroggy> the command itself is complaining the filename doesnt exist, and the name its complaining about includes the #
[08:22] <ironfroggy> escaping does no affect.
[08:23] <[Relic] > any how to get a webcam working pages?  USB recognizes it, I just have to clue on how to get the driver or some programm running for it
[08:23] <v3ctor> does the filename begin with # ?
[08:24] <ironfroggy> no its in the middle
[08:24] <v3ctor> autocomplete should complete in a way that should allow the #
[08:24] <ironfroggy> well it does
[08:24] <ep> Is there  help for updating from breezy to dapper?  Maybe I've already done this and I just need to edit  sources.lists because everything there says 'breezy', how do I check?.
[08:25] <ironfroggy> what i cant figure, is if i cant open them, how are they being written?
[08:25] <steveire> has anyone got compiz working with kubuntu?
[08:27] <sredna> Man, creating a simple graphic is complicated in linux :(
[08:28] <holysmoke> hello
[08:28] <sredna> Open krita, try, give up because it's too weird, open gimp, fight it's oddities, fight the odd gtk file dialog ... :\\
[08:28] <MarcC> pixel is a nice one, just bought it
[08:29] <MarcC> works great in Kubuntu
[08:29] <holysmoke> can anyone help me in getting my k menu and toolbar to reappear ... a workmate did "something" and now i'm struggling to get it back
[08:29] <tsdgeos> toolbar you mean the lower part of the screen?
[08:30] <holysmoke> lol i got it by  going  run command  systemsettings  --- panel  ---- hiding
[08:30] <holysmoke> thanks though
[08:30] <tsdgeos> np
[08:34] <ep> To update from breezy to dapper, can I use adept; change  'breezy' to 'dapper' and click fetch updates and reboot?
[08:34] <tsdgeos> technically yes
[08:35] <tsdgeos> but the update is a bit bad
[08:35] <tsdgeos> and iirc it removes most kde programs
[08:35] <ep> whats a better method
[08:35] <tsdgeos> so install kubuntu-desktop after updating
[08:35] <tsdgeos> that's the better method :D
[08:35] <tsdgeos> afaik
[08:35] <ubuntu> lo all
[08:37] <ep> tsdgeos: (A) So do what I just said and then install kubuntu-desktop or just (B) just install kubuntu desktop and then edit my sources.list, replacing breezy with dapper?
[08:37] <tsdgeos> a
[08:37] <ep> ok thanks
[08:37] <main2> !nl
[08:37] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:38] <Nickste> I'm busy installing Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. I'm at the partitioning window. I create an ext3 patition of 3gb in some free space, near the end of my drive. Once I create it, it won't let me create swap space, etc. in the free space.
[08:38] <Martijn81> someone knows what's this "Score is -40" thing in aptitude?
[08:38] <ubuntu> I've just gone to install windows xp on a spare part of my HD...forgot to partition some space off, I exited out of the installer, and now kubuntu wont boot up, i get the "error - operating system not found" message. I'm using the live cd as we speak :P
[08:39] <Alextremo> ((((((    good afternooooon ))))))))))))))))))))))   haw are alls ????????
[08:40] <beemonk> Annoyed with using the live cd at 800x600 res Alextremo  :P
[08:40] <Nickste> once kubuntu is installed, what resolution can I go up to?
[08:40] <beemonk> Nickste: whatever resolution your monitor/graphics card supports
[08:41] <ep> tsdgeos: What about individual packages in my sources.list ,  can I just change 'breezy' to 'dapper' there as well
[08:41] <Nickste> ok, and can I use the same swap space for Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[08:41] <tsdgeos> ep, wht do you mean with "individual packages"?
[08:42] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: yes
[08:42] <Nickste> do I need to reformat it?
[08:42] <beemonk> Can no one help me then....
[08:42] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: no
[08:42] <Nickste> stoke :)
[08:42] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: with what?
[08:42] <beemonk> dumbkiwi: sec i'll re post
[08:42] <beemonk> I've just gone to install windows xp on a spare part of my HD...forgot to partition some space off, I exited out of the installer, and now kubuntu wont boot up, i get the "error - operating system not found" message. I'm using the live cd.....
[08:43] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: You could try restoring the mbr, but I can't remember if the live cd has a "repair mbr" option
[08:43] <Nickste> If the Ubuntu dual boot menu is currently being used, and I install Kubuntu, will the Kubuntu boot manager take over?
[08:44] <beemonk> dumbkiwi: Not unless you can run it as an additional option (which i dont know off, havent been using this long)
[08:44] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: Probably, but it'll be exactly the same - it's just grub
[08:44] <Nickste> ok
[08:45] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: another livecd may have that option.  But my pick is that you're best option is to start again, unless you've got something vital on there.
[08:45] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: Depends on how far through the xp install you got.
[08:46] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: second point is that if you install xp second, it'll overwrite the mbr anyway, and if you don't know what you're doing you won't be able to boot to linux anyway.
[08:50] <Nickste> how do I specify more space to the
[08:50] <Nickste> "/" part of my partition
[08:52] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: You're better to move part of the root filesystem to another partition, and simply to it.
[08:52] <angasule> !xgl
[08:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:53] <ep> I've got problems on breezy.  sudo apt-get intstall kubunu-desktop fails: Broken packages.   The help file I'm reading says this must be installed before upgrading to dapper, says its VITAL!
[08:54] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[08:54] <Nickste> shot
[08:54] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: huh?
[08:54] <Nickste> shot = thanks :)
[08:55] <Nickste> Do I have to specify a /home dir and a /media dir?
[08:55] <ep> kubuntu-desktop: Depends: akode but it is not going to be installed
[08:55] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: when?
[08:55] <Nickste> on install
[08:56] <Nickste> I just set the /media and /home drop down menu's to blank, and it is now installing fine :)
[08:56] <christian> cannot get flash to work in konquror, tried easyubuntu and automatix, any hints?
[08:56] <abattoir> christian: you'd need to enable it manually... did you do that?
[08:56] <beemonk> dumbkiwi:
[08:57] <jatos> hi
[08:57] <dumbkiwi> Nickste: you don't have to specify anything as far as I recall.  I would suggest that you put /home on a separate partition, so that if you want to do a clean upgrade, you can do it without losing your personal data
[08:57] <beemonk> start again ?
[08:57] <Nickste> ah right, thanks
[08:57] <christian> yut I scanned on the configure konq
[08:57] <beemonk> I completely switched from xp to u/kubuntu...i've just got all my data back on kubuntu
[08:57] <abattoir> christian: did it list the plugin?
[08:57] <beemonk> the XP install got to the point where you partition your drives
[08:57] <Nickste> man, the kubuntu install kills windows :) I can IRC while I install!!!
[08:57] <beemonk> where you partition them, i exited out...
[08:58] <beemonk> im a big noob but...cant i access grub i think it is
[08:58] <beemonk> and change it..?
[08:58] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: up to you, but if you've got no important data on kubuntu, the quickest way is to start again
[08:58] <beemonk> but, i have
[08:58] <beemonk> well, not so much that, just that i've had to reinstall 3 times already and i dont want to have to install EVERYTHING again
[08:59] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: I would start again.
[08:59] <christian> abattoir: it lists only a "Netscape Pluggins" and pull down menu called "pluggin" with a bunch of "mime" type in subfolders
[08:59] <beemonk> dumbkiwi: thanks for your advice
[08:59] <christian> abattoir: but nothing with flash as a name
[08:59] <dumbkiwi> beemonk: but set up your partitions first (use gparted on the livecd)
[08:59] <abattoir> christian: yes, it should be under that ...
[09:00] <dumbkiwi> charming...
[09:00] <abattoir> christian: you dont see an entry for a ..../libflashplayer.so ?
[09:00] <miyako> clear
[09:00] <miyako> err sorry
[09:00] <christian> abattoir: nope
[09:01] <abattoir> christian: how did you install flashplayer?
[09:01] <abattoir> christian: you dowloaded it manually from adobe's site?
[09:01] <abattoir> christian: or did you use the package in the repos?
[09:03] <ikkinu> hi all; kbib developer ask me for my KDEDIR, but I can't see it with _env_; how can I help him?
[09:05] <christian> abattoir: sorry, kid crying... I installed it from repos
[09:06] <abattoir> christian: ok, can you try 'sudo update-flashplugin' ?
[09:07] <abattoir> christian: after that try scanning again, and see if you see the entry for ...libflashplayer.so
[09:07] <christian> abattoir: konsole returns message "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[09:08] <abattoir> christian: ok, try doing a 'sudo apt-get update' first then try that command
[09:08] <abattoir> christian: you are on dapper, right?
[09:08] <abattoir> ikkinu: $KDEDIR ?
[09:08] <ikkinu> abattoir, yes
[09:08] <ge2x> hey ive just installed kubuntu desktop with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and how can i remove gnome?
[09:09] <abattoir> ge2x: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:09] <ge2x> thnx
[09:09] <abattoir> ikkinu: afaik, its /usr in kubuntu
[09:09] <Vegeta^> What package do I install, so that I get all the LaTeX packages? (the sty-files). I'm using kubuntu.
[09:10] <christian> abattoir: did sudo apt-get update, worked fine, and am on dapper 6.06.1
[09:10] <ikkinu> abattoir, he said /usr/local/kde..so he's wrong?
[09:10] <abattoir> christian: ok, now try the 'sudo update-flashplugin' command again
[09:11] <abattoir> ikkinu: there doesnt seem to be a kde folder in /usr/local
[09:11] <ikkinu> by the way, shouldn't I see it with 'env')
[09:11] <Blissex> !printers
[09:11] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:11] <ge2x> ok i did sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop so how do i switch to the kde desktop?
[09:11] <ikkinu> abattoir, I have it
[09:11] <sabaal> Is anyone else getting a "timeout on server" error from kde-look.org?
[09:12] <abattoir> sabaal: works fine for me
[09:12] <sabaal> Huh, that's strange. Any ideas what would cause that?
[09:12] <christian> abattoir: sameold 'automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes...
[09:13] <sabaal> It's only happening on kde-look and kde-apps. :/
[09:13] <christian> Maybe I should uninstall the plugin and start over?
[09:13] <abattoir> christian: i think adobe have changed the url or something...
[09:13] <abattoir> christian: could you try downloading it and installing it manually from adobe's site?
[09:14] <christian> abattoir: should I follow their instructions for install or ubuntu's
[09:14] <abattoir> christian: their's
[09:14] <abattoir> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[09:15] <christian> abattoir: thanks, get back later
[09:15] <abattoir> christian: follow the procedure, the rescan in konqueror, should be detected...
[09:16] <ep> How do i uninstall KDE 3.5 which I installed via a individual deb package I downloaded from kubunto.org?
[09:16] <abattoir> christian: i guess the ubuntu package is temporarily broken, in the sense the link doesnt work
[09:16] <abattoir> ep: you have all the debs?
[09:16] <abattoir> ep: oh, uninstall?
[09:17] <Vegeta^> What is a better pdf viewer than KPDF?
[09:17] <ep> I need to uninstall it so I can upgrade to dapper
[09:17] <sabaal> Vegeta^: Depends on what you need it to do.
[09:17] <abattoir> ep: you are on breezy?
[09:17] <ep> yes
[09:17] <abattoir> Vegeta^: kghostview is an alternative
[09:17] <abattoir> Vegeta^: the official Adobe reader exists too
[09:18] <sabaal> For Linux? I thought Adobe was getting ready to abandon us?
[09:18] <abattoir> ep: why do you think you must 'uninstall' 3.5?
[09:18] <ep> At least my sources.list says "breezy".   I don't really know how to verify.
[09:18] <Vegeta^> abattoir: It's not on the package list rhough..
[09:18] <Vegeta^> sabaal: I only want to use it to view pdf file documents.
[09:19] <ep> because the help page on ubuntu.com said it was vital that kubuntu-desktop was installed in order to upgrade
[09:19] <ep> Its not installed and it WONT install
[09:19] <Vegeta^> sabaal: Well the thing that annoyes in KPDF, is the menu to the left with the pages in mini format, how do I remove that?
[09:19] <sabaal> Vegeta^: I'll have to check myself. One moment...
[09:20] <abattoir> Vegeta^: you can click on the divider and move it to the left
[09:20] <abattoir> so it 'disappears'
[09:20] <abattoir> !upgrade
[09:20] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:21] <sabaal> Vegeta^: Settings > Hide Navigation Panel; or Ctrl+L.
[09:21] <burns2> alguem me recomenda algum player de audio e video?
[09:21] <jatos> how do I get xnest?
[09:21] <burns2> video com legendas
[09:21] <burns2> *novato em linux aqui* ;p
[09:21] <ep> abattoir: sudo apt-get -f intstall kubunu-desktop fails, Broken packages.
[09:21] <Vegeta^> sabaal: Ok thanks
[09:22] <sabaal> Vegeta^: No problem. I'm just glad to be giving help for once. :P
[09:22] <Vegeta^> hehe :D
[09:22] <abattoir> ep: if you are upgrading to dapper, your sources.list file must say 'dapper'
[09:24] <ep> abattoir: Yes i know, change all 'breezy' to 'dapper'.  That is not the problem
[09:25] <ge2x> hey could som1 help me ive just installed kubuntu on ubuntu and now im using kubuntu but i think gnome is still running cause i can still run gnome applications (like gaim)
[09:25] <ge2x> how can i stop gnome?
[09:26] <jatos> ps -A
[09:26] <jatos> use that to get the PID of gnome applet
[09:26] <ep> abattoir: It is vital that I have kubuntu-desktop installed on breezy before I upgrade to dapper.  Says so in BOLD letters here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[09:26] <ep> thats the problem
[09:26] <jatos> actually, just press ctrl+alt+backspace ge2x
[09:26] <ikkinu> ge2x, u'll be always able to run gnome apps
[09:27] <ge2x> jatos: i dont understand could u plz explain simplier?
[09:27] <jatos> on your keyboard press ctrl, alt and backspace similtaneously
[09:28] <jatos> kills gnome
[09:28] <jatos> though for more power do apt-get install ksysguard
[09:28] <ikkinu> kbib developer ask me for my KDEDIR, but I can't see it with _env_; how can I help him?
[09:28] <jatos> this very handy program lets you kill an app at your wim
[09:28] <jatos> it is technically for KDE but works in Gnome
[09:30] <ge2x> so how can i stop gnome?
[09:30] <jatos> press ctrl+alt+backspace on your keyboard, that will stop Gnome
[09:30] <abattoir> ep: i think it refers to the kubuntu-desktop from breezy... dont you have that installed already?
[09:30] <ge2x> that will restart the pc
[09:31] <jatos> no, it will kill Gnome not restart your PC
[09:31] <ge2x> i just pressed 5 minutes ago and it restarted the pc
[09:31] <jatos> ctrl+alt+del will restart if your in the console, but while you in the same display as Gnome
[09:31] <jatos> oh...
[09:31] <gourdin> hi tere
[09:31] <gourdin> there
[09:32] <gourdin> anyone got problem with kicker under dapper ?
[09:32] <ep> abattoir: no its not installed and it wont install sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop fails and it also fails if I use the -f option
[09:32] <ge2x> so what should i do?
[09:32] <jatos> are you in console or in Gnome?
[09:32] <ikkinu> ge2x,  are u sure you have gnome running?
[09:32] <ge2x> well yes how else could i be able to run gnome apps?
 ge2x, u'll be always able to run gnome apps
[09:33] <gourdin> ???
[09:33] <abattoir> ep: your sources.list still points to breezy right? if so please pastebin the error message
[09:33] <abattoir> !pastebin
[09:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:33] <gourdin> what the problem with kde ?
[09:33] <jatos> if your in gnome and in the active display ctrl-alt-backspace doesthe job
[09:33] <ep> ok
[09:33] <ep> and yey still points to breezy
[09:33] <jatos> though if your in teh console you can also...
[09:33] <NeoSaki> I just realized Kompile has a grammar error
[09:33] <jatos> type: ps -A
[09:33] <NeoSaki> Sources Builded
[09:34] <NeoSaki> xD
[09:34] <jatos> this will get a list of running processes with PID
[09:34] <jatos> find the PID for gnome-applet and type: kill PID
[09:34] <jatos> PID been the PID of the program of gnome-applet
[09:34] <ge2x> hmm so let get the point: lets say im now in kde and when i run a gnome app it wont take double the system resources like i'd be running two desktop environments (kde and gnome)
[09:35] <ge2x> wait ill try
[09:35] <jatos> no
[09:35] <ge2x> what no?
[09:35] <jatos> Gnome apps just run using the GTK api, but when you starta Gnome app from KDE it does not start the Gnome desktop
[09:36] <angasule> !xgl
[09:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:36] <ge2x> ok i think i get it
[09:36] <ge2x> but what if i wanted to remove gnome and all its apps
[09:36] <ge2x> how to do that?
[09:36] <jatos> remove GTK is the easiest way
[09:37] <jatos> gnome, and its apps are dependant on it, so it gets rid of Gnome and all its apps
[09:37] <ge2x> could u explain simplier plz im new to linux :)
[09:37] <jatos> from synaptic or adept
[09:37] <jatos> as appropriate
[09:37] <NeoSaki> GTK is like a base that all Gnome apps are built on
[09:37] <NeoSaki> when you uninstall it, the program will automatically uninstall all apps based on it
[09:38] <NeoSaki> so uninstall GTK then reinstall it
[09:38] <NeoSaki> and you won't have Gnome or Gnome apps
[09:38] <Tm_T> I'd say uninstall some gnome libs instead
[09:38] <jatos> oh goodness, GTK is formed of several package, lets make life fun huh?
[09:38] <Tm_T> not all gtk apps are gnomeware
[09:39] <NeoSaki> Tm_T: i was explaining what jatos was suggesting in simplier terms
[09:39] <ge2x> so what is the best?
[09:39] <jatos> I'm just thinking
[09:39] <NeoSaki> My idea would be, if you haven't done much to the system, is reinstall from Kubuntu cd
[09:39] <jatos> right ge2x go into the console
[09:40] <ge2x> ok
[09:40] <ge2x> p.s. i dont really want to reinstall from kubuntu cd
[09:40] <jatos> and type apt-get remove libgtk2.0.-0
[09:40] <jatos> that will completely get rid of gnome
[09:40] <jatos> but NOT kubuntu
[09:41] <ge2x> E: Couldn't find package libgtk2.0.-0
[09:41] <ge2x> that what it says
[09:41] <ep> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23541
[09:41] <jatos> try this: apt-get remove libgtk2.0-0
[09:41] <jatos> mistyped it...
[09:41] <flo> can someone with a nvidia gforce 5200 or higher(preferible higher ) and proprietary driver tell me the fps of glxgears ? it's for a test thx
[09:41] <ge2x> worked
[09:41] <ge2x> thnx man
[09:41] <jatos> np
[09:42] <ge2x> maybe u have tried edgy?
[09:42] <jatos> not yet...
[09:42] <jatos> but I am risk taking person so I might put on my desktop at some point
[09:42] <Tm_T> edgy is fun atm
[09:42] <jatos> oh?
[09:42] <ge2x> hmm could i ask a question related to warez?
[09:42] <jatos> depends what is?
[09:43] <ge2x> well i need to get quake 3 for linux
[09:43] <foxiness> is there any mockup or screenshot about kde 4? i
[09:43] <Tm_T> buy it ;)
[09:43] <ge2x> i mean for free :D
[09:43] <jatos> I think there is an official port of Quake 3, try Google
[09:43] <pierreth> what is the command to start openoffice?
[09:44] <Sanne> flo: there you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23542
[09:44] <ge2x> yeah i know there is
[09:44] <jatos> but I am helping you get the warez
[09:44] <jatos> sorry
[09:44] <jatos> *not helping you get warez
[09:44] <SpEeDFrEaK> anyone plz i need open source hosting control panel for Ubuntu version 6 server edition plesk 8 or cpanel do not support
[09:44] <flo> Sanne thx
[09:44] <ge2x> oh well ill get it from a p2p program later
[09:44] <Tm_T> foxiness: well, not much reason to take screenshots yet imo, mockups are somewhere there, haven't seen any lately though
[09:44] <jatos> as a software programmer I hate pirating of programs...
[09:44] <SpEeDFrEaK> need suggestions
[09:44] <ge2x> maybe u know how to install
[09:45] <NeoSaki> jatos: I'm with you there
[09:45] <foxiness> pierreth, ooffice -writer %U
[09:45] <Sanne> ge2x: the Q3A linux binary is free, the data is not.
[09:45] <SpEeDFrEaK> anyone
[09:45] <jatos> thanks NeoSakie
[09:45] <Tm_T> jatos: it's unmoral at least
[09:45] <Sanne> flo: you're welcome
[09:45] <foxiness> pierreth,  this for writer and maybe oofice what you seek for
[09:45] <ge2x> what do u mean the data's not?
[09:46] <NeoSaki> Q3 is still sold by and somewhat maintained by iD
[09:46] <Sanne> ge2x: I mean the game data, levels, textures, sounds, that artsy stuff :). But if you have the windows version, you're all set.
[09:46] <pierreth> foxiness: it start but i have an error
[09:46] <ge2x> oh so all i need is a windows version and then i have to get the linux binary
[09:46] <ge2x> is that right?
[09:47] <Sanne> ge2x: yeah, you just need to copy over some pak files. I'll get you a howto, sec.
[09:47] <namon> hi
[09:47] <zblach> hey all. quick question. i want to burn a collection of ...family movies onto a dvd. I could use k3b, but I'd much rather be able to watch my ...family movies on any dvd player. any recommendations?
[09:47] <foxiness> pierreth, i can not test it on my laptop coz i my system now busy "backup"
[09:47] <pierreth> foxiness: no, it start and then it stops
[09:47] <namon> 1
[09:47] <namon> 2
[09:48] <Sanne> ge2x: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO%20Quake3
[09:48] <ge2x> thnx
[09:48] <pierreth> foxiness: i think my installation is not complete
[09:48] <mikedep333> hello, by the time I am fully logged in 3 services are running that I dont want to run: kalarm, knotify, and beagled. they are not init services. how do I set them to not start up automatically?
[09:48] <foxiness> pierreth, is there a channel for openoffice there? if there one go ahead to it
[09:49] <zblach> mikedep333: system settings -> system services
[09:49] <sabaal> zblach: As far as I know, K3b doesn't burn any differently from any other app you could find out there. You should be more worried about the format of the disc itself, methinks.
[09:49] <foxiness> pierreth, reinstall may help
[09:49] <mikedep333> zblach: that only shows init services
[09:49] <mikedep333> they are not there
[09:49] <angasule> !xgl
[09:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:49] <sabaal> Of course, I don't even own a DVD burner.
[09:49] <Sanne> ge2x: I don't know if the referenced linux binary is the latest version, though. I remember a newsitem not long ago about a security patch. Gimme a sec to look what version I have.
[09:49] <pierreth> foxiness: yes but i am using the install of the distribution
[09:50] <foxiness> Tm_T, i ask about it after i see news on kubuntu about alpha ver of kde4
[09:50] <ge2x> what is the best dc client for linux?
[09:50] <ge2x> i use LinuxDC++ now
[09:50] <mikedep333> ge2x: that is probably the best
[09:50] <mikedep333> I just wish it was more stable
[09:50] <zblach> anyone recommend me a dvd burning program>
[09:50] <zblach> ?
[09:51] <mikedep333> ge2x: did you find packages somewhere?
[09:51] <foxiness> pierreth, synaptic can do reinstall for you
[09:51] <Sanne> ge2x: the latest q3a linux binary is 1.32c
[09:51] <mikedep333> zblach: k3b?
[09:51] <pierreth> foxiness: i am using it but it is not working
[09:51] <ge2x> mikedep333: i built from source
[09:51] <zblach> dvd-readable burning
[09:52] <mikedep333> ge2x: did you have to modify the source for it to compile?
[09:52] <Sanne> ge2x: you should find the update on the same ftp server from id software. I can't get you the link right now because it seems down at the moment, try to dig around a bit.
[09:52] <foxiness> pierreth, what about java ?
[09:52] <ge2x> kk thnx very much man
[09:52] <Tm_T> foxiness: ah yes, haven't seen shots from that one
[09:52] <ge2x> mike: no i didn't
[09:52] <mikedep333> can anyone help me on how to stop kalarm, knotify, and beagled from running automatically? system services does not help
[09:52] <mikedep333> ge2x: sweet, thanks
[09:53] <ge2x> doesnt it compile for u?
[09:53] <pierreth> foxiness: i have the java from sun
[09:53] <mikedep333> I havent tried yet
[09:53] <ge2x> oh
[09:53] <mikedep333> I typically have bad luck with compiling graphical apps
[09:53] <ge2x> well np...
[09:53] <pierreth> foxiness: can i use the .rpm?
[09:54] <foxiness> pierreth, you can convert it to deb by alien but it not recommended
[09:54] <Sanne> ge2x: ah, the patch is right here: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/quake3-1.32c.zip
[09:54] <pierreth> foxiness: this is what i did but i was getting a mess
[09:54] <pierreth> foxiness: now, i am trying to repair
[09:54] <orbit45244> I have a problem, in kde the image on my screen is slanted
[09:55] <foxiness> pierreth, why you do not tell me about that ): ,wrong Q
[09:55] <orbit45244> I have the same problem with my login screen, but I don't have this problem in GNOME.
[09:56] <pierreth> foxiness: i taught that was independent
[09:57] <pierreth> foxiness: the OOo of kubuntu is buggy
[09:57] <foxiness> pierreth, now you know it does, remove it and install it from ubuntu repos or use ubuntu cd for that
[09:57] <pierreth> foxiness: the live cd?
[09:57] <foxiness> pierreth, no install cd
[09:58] <foxiness> pierreth, if you have one
[09:58] <pierreth> foxiness: the live cd is also the install cd
[09:59] <pierreth> foxiness: i wil try to remove it another time and I will reinstall again
[09:59] <obf213> hey i need help with my shutdown / restart
[09:59] <obf213> it got messed up somehow
[10:00] <marq> hey everyone
[10:00] <llxcamxll> how do i install a .bin file
[10:01] <obf213> hey can anyone help me with my restart/ shut down
[10:01] <foxiness> llxcamxll, bash file.bin
[10:01] <llxcamxll> thats it
[10:01] <llxcamxll> bash fuhquake.bin
[10:01] <foxiness> llxcamxll, or try ./ file.bin
[10:01] <tuxar> obf213: What exactly do you need ?
[10:01] <llxcamxll> oh ok
[10:01] <obf213> tuxar there arfe a few problems
[10:02] <obf213> the major one is that my comp doesnt reboot now
[10:02] <tuxar> obf213: try sudo reboot
[10:02] <tuxar> obf213: try shutdown -9 now
[10:02] <obf213> tuxar wht do those do
[10:02] <obf213> my comp can shut down, but ti donest like restart
[10:02] <marq> can someone help me? When I try to run Apollon it tells me it cannot find my gIFT installation ...
[10:03] <obf213> i changed some things in the boot to make it load faster but i ddint touch the reboot and it doesnt work, even when i restord defalult settings
[10:03] <marq> and when i try to run GTK-Gnutella it won't start or even load
[10:03] <foxiness> obf213, init 6
[10:04] <orbit45244> I have a problem, in kde the image on my screen is slanted
[10:05] <orbit45244> I have the same problem with my login screen, but I don't have this problem in GNOME.
[10:05] <Nickste> When I set a new screen resolution in the Display settings, nothing changes... Any ideas?
[10:05] <foxiness> Nickste, change it by hand on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:05] <obf213> tuxar my problem is taht my computer wont restart
[10:05] <obf213> i can shut down
[10:06] <obf213> it just shuts down and doesnt restart
[10:06] <Nickste> kk
[10:06] <Vegeta^> If I want to use packages from other location for LaTeX, is it the command "export TEXINPUTS=::~/<somelocation>"? Or is there an error in the command? What is the exact command. Im unsure...
[10:06] <tuxar> obf213: sudo reboot do nothing ?
[10:06] <obf213> also when i do a regular shut down the usplash come up like normal, it just says stopping usplash time out, and then it just halts, it doesnt go throught the process of shuttind down alsa and all thoses other things
[10:06] <obf213> tuxar: it shut down my computer
[10:07] <obf213> my prblem is gtting it to turn back on, it used to.
[10:07] <obf213> i changed some of the init files, then all off a sudden i cant rebooot
[10:07] <obf213> so i change d them back to default
[10:08] <obf213> an i cant reboot, not only that on shutdown it doesnt stop services, i dont know if thats bad or not, but shut down only takes lie 2 seconds, ti goes shuttind downg kdm, then it says will not halt
[10:08] <obf213> then it shuts down
[10:08] <tuxar> obf213: have no idea, someone can help ?
[10:09] <obf213> lol i need like abattoir or summthing i guess
[10:09] <obf213> but thanks for trying tuxar
[10:10] <tuxar> obf213: youe wellcome, have you looked at #ubuntu channel ? or ubuntu Forums ?
[10:10] <nikkiana> is there a way to fix f-spot if it breaks, does anyone know?
[10:11] <d11> anyone have an idea why video from dvd playback doesnt work. tried lots of players and got css and w32 codecs
[10:11] <foxiness> nikkiana, maybe dpkg-reconfgure
[10:12] <foxiness> dpkg-reconfigure f-spot
[10:12] <noxs> hi all
[10:12] <foxiness> hi
[10:13] <noxs> is it possible without kernel changing to activate ubuntu as router?
[10:13] <noxs> the notebook has a wireless connection with a pcmcia card...
[10:13] <pierreth> foxiness: it is working now but i don't have the menu bar
[10:14] <noxs> and i want the ethernet connection of the notebook for connecting another notebook and get access with it to the internet...
[10:14] <noxs> how to do?
[10:14] <noxs> can someone help me?`
[10:14] <foxiness> pierreth, is this one "rpm ver"?
[10:15] <pierreth> no, it is the kubuntu
[10:16] <noxs> how to activate routing?
[10:16] <pierreth> foxiness: OK the menu bar is back
[10:17] <pierreth> foxiness: she like to travel...
[10:17] <foxiness> pierreth, huh
[10:18] <dumbkiwi> noxs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[10:18] <tuxar> noxs: you want to use your notebook with internet access and share your internet conecction ?
[10:19] <noxs> yes....
[10:20] <noxs> notebook 1 has a wireless internet connection and i want to use ethernet of notebook 1 for connection notebook 2
[10:20] <magical_trevsky> hi, I need to install the 'C headers which match my running kernel', can anyone tell me how to do this?
[10:20] <noxs> tuxar: THX
[10:20] <tuxar> ok, the way I know is installing firestarter firewall,, when started for the first time runs a small wizard and ask you if you want to share your internet
[10:21] <noxs> ah...great...so ill test it right now...
[10:21] <nikkiana> foxiness, i'll give it a shot...
[10:21] <tuxar> with otre computers on the net
[10:21] <tuxar> private net of course
[10:21] <nikkiana> hmm.... i don't think that worked
[10:21] <Electrolyte> Can someone help me set permissions to a file? Looking on google is confusing me even more.
[10:22] <nikkiana> it gave me errors.
[10:22] <Electrolyte> I want to add my standard user to read/write to a file.
[10:23] <dumbkiwi> Electrolyte: chmod u+rw file
[10:23] <Electrolyte> Ty.
[10:23] <tuxar> Electrolyte: you have to use the chmod command, it resume the binary format in three numbers
[10:24] <Electrolyte> Ok.
[10:24] <dumbkiwi> Electrolyte: or chmod 455 file
[10:24] <dumbkiwi> Electrolyte: oops, ignore that.
[10:25] <jatos> anyone here ever used Google desktop?
[10:25] <foxiness> can i boot linux for USB even if my laptop not support that "boot from usb"
[10:25] <dumbkiwi> Electrolyte: chmod 644 file
[10:26] <jatos> @foxiness: the power of Grub!
[10:26] <foxiness> jatos, good :)
[10:26] <jatos> lol...
[10:26] <jatos> mind if I pm foxiness?
[10:27] <foxiness> jatos, on linux or windows?
[10:27] <Sanne> Electrolyte: this might help you understand (in case you didn't see this already): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[10:28] <obf213> can anyone take a screen shot of there sysv runlevel config so i can see wht mine are supposed to look like
[10:28] <foxiness> i dont know if there one for linux :)
[10:28] <jatos> on Windows
[10:28] <obf213> i think i messed mine up
[10:28] <Electrolyte> Thanks.
[10:28] <jatos> GoogleDesktop doesn't natively run on Linux
[10:29] <jatos> I trying it on crossover office
[10:29] <jatos> boy, am I going to buy that program when I got some money or am I going to buy it?
[10:29] <foxiness> jatos, me :) ,google for desktop ,but its come with a cost
[10:29] <Sanne> Electrolyte: you can also set permissions from konqueror file manager with right click/properties/permissions
[10:29] <nikkiana> what does this mean: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[10:29] <Electrolyte> Not when it's already as root.
[10:30] <|lostbyte|> Hai :P
[10:30] <foxiness> jatos, like the cost of beagle :)
[10:30] <jatos> beagle?
[10:30] <Sanne> Electrolyte: ah, then you would have to start konqui with kdesu (but be very careful then... very much power to mess things up)
[10:31] <jatos> or is a case of Google is my friend?
[10:31] <foxiness> !beagle
[10:31] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[10:32] <jatos> kk
[10:33] <jatos> foxiness: mind If speak to you in a PM window?
[10:33] <Neo|Drenched> back
[10:35] <Tinchio> Hello, can anyone help me to install a Geforce 6200?? I've already tried a lot of methods with no results
[10:36] <Tinchio> I've even installed another graphic cards in anothers PCs, with i can't do it with this one
[10:36] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: you can't physically install it, or you've got software issues?
[10:37] <ge2x> hey who knows a good dl manager for kubuntu?
[10:37] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi: I've got software issues
[10:37] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: have you got X up?
[10:37] <ge2x> on ubuntu i had gwget but what about kubuntu?
[10:37] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  yes
[10:38] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: so what's the issue?
[10:38] <tuxar> ge2x: kget
[10:38] <ge2x> tnx
[10:39] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi: I've installed 2 differents cards in another PCs, a ATI 9200 and a fx5500, and I had succeded but with this one i can't make it
[10:40] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: can't make it what?  If you've got X running what more do you want?
[10:40] <soulrider> hi everyone
[10:40] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi: I can't make the "nivida" driver to work
[10:41] <|lostbyte|> Hi
[10:41] <soulrider> hi
[10:41] <soulrider> Tinchio: need help ?
[10:41] <|lostbyte|> IS there a way to increase signal pwoer of a wireless card ?
[10:41] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  as soon as I chanhe "nv" for "nvidia" i crashes
[10:41] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[10:41] <Tinchio> soulrider:  yes :(
[10:41] <soulrider> ya, installt he drivers and then change that
[10:42] <soulrider> it has to work
[10:42] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  yes, nvidia-glx
[10:42] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: what happens when you type:  sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:42] <soulrider> !nfo nvidia-glx
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfo nvidia-glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <Sanne> Tinchio: do you have linux-restricted-modules for your kernel installed?
[10:42] <soulrider> !info nvidia-glx
[10:42] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-4 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[10:44] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  strange...FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[10:44] <Tinchio> Sanne:  yes i have
[10:44] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: that's one problem
[10:45] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  strange because i did the same steps on another Pc and it worked fine
[10:45] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  with the same drivers and that
[10:45] <Vegeta^> Are all the ports closed when Linux (ubuntu) is installed? Or are there some open? Like 6881 for KTorrent and etc.?
[10:46] <Nailuj> hi all
[10:46] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: you might have to find someone else to help.  I mostly use Gentoo.  Haven't installed nvidia on ubuntu.  Surely there are good howtos on the forums tho.
[10:47] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  thanks i'll continue reading (even more :S) just one more thing that may be helps
[10:48] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: Did you make sure that the nvidia drivers match your kernel version?
[10:48] <mad_mad> how to i get kaddressbook and korganizer to show under all app/office menu ?
[10:48] <flukej-walker> mad_mad: right click the menu, edit item
[10:48] <dumbkiwi> mad_mad: you don't.  just alt+f2 then type the name of the app.  Much simpler.
[10:48] <Trollinator> can someone help me with mencoder? i'm trying to encode an audio file, but it keeps telling me that a video stream is mandatory
[10:49] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  there's one difference between this installation and the other ones I did, in this case When I first run ubuntu inside the  xorg it showed the correct card name, but in this case it showed Nvidia.....NV40? [Unrecognized....] 
[10:49] <flukej-walker> or alt+space for katapult
[10:49] <Tinchio> dumbkiwi:  yes i am
[10:49] <mad_mad> dumbkiwi>problems is i is very poor speller
[10:49] <dumbkiwi> Tinchio: shouldn't affect the fact that it can't find the module when you modprobe.
[10:50] <Alextremo> ohhh talk by this..........  how run one app from Konsole ??????????????
[10:50] <flukej-walker> Alextremo: type the name of the app
[10:50] <flukej-walker> firefox=firefox
[10:51] <Alextremo> in Konsole ?????
[10:51] <flukej-walker> mostly, it will work
[10:51] <Sanne> Tinchio: just to make sure, let's simulate installing the restricted modules and see what it tells you. Please type (the -s simulates): sudo apt-get -s install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:51] <flukej-walker> if you want to give the app root permissions, throw in a sudo
[10:52] <MenZa> Alextremo: you might want to do 'application &'
[10:52] <MenZa> e.g. firefox &
[10:52] <MenZa> that way, your terminal doesn't freeze up.
[10:52] <flukej-walker> that is helpful to see problems when app launches
[10:52] <Tinchio> No se pudo encontrar el paquete linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[10:52] <Tinchio> Sanne: No se pudo encontrar el paquete linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[10:53] <Alextremo> MenZa: What you mean ???
[10:53] <Tinchio> Sanne:  in english it says that it couldnt find the package
[10:54] <obf213> when you shut down you rcomputer do you ever have the toolbar load up, and error window comes ups ayign couldnt talk to klauncher
[10:54] <MenZa> Alextremo: if you start an application, instead of doing "firefox", do "firefox &"
[10:55] <Sanne> Tinchio: hmmm, so we seemingly learn 1: you don't have it instalkled, and 2: your repositories are somehow not set up correctly.
[10:55] <flukej-walker> Alextremo: If you just type the app name, your Konsol session will just display that app's logs, etc until you quit or ctrl+c\
[10:56] <Tinchio> Sanne: how do i get the restricted drivers for my 686 kernel?
[10:57] <Sanne> Tinchio: I'm searching now on packages.ubuntu.com, perhaps you could try to do this also. Let's see what we find
[10:57] <Tinchio> Sanne:  ok, thanks for helping me, i m so tired i've been with this all day
[10:58] <Tinchio> Sanne: i'll search too
[10:59] <Tinchio> Sanne:  found one :D i'll download
[11:00] <jackle> Good day everyone
[11:01] <Sanne> Tinchio: no, don't
[11:01] <Sanne> Tinchio: please wait
[11:02] <Sanne> Tinchio: real life interfering, just a moment
[11:02] <Tinchio> Sanne:  ok
[11:03] <jackle> Have anyone tried reiser4 on kubuntu dapper?
[11:04] <timi> !reboot
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <ubuntu> running knot 3 yeah
[11:06] <Dannilion> does knot 3 work better than knot 2?
[11:06] <ubuntu> knot 2 didnt work for me
[11:06] <ubuntu> knot 3 ruley
[11:06] <ubuntu> z
[11:06] <Sanne> Tinchio: sorry, I just broke part of my tooth cap...
[11:07] <Tinchio> Sanne: ohh sorry 'bout that
[11:07] <Sanne> Tinchio: so, we learn from the packages page that the package is in the restricted repository
[11:07] <flukej-walker> Dannilion: Knot 3 would be more recent, thus more stable
[11:07] <Tinchio> Sanne: what should i do?
[11:07] <flukej-walker> Dannilion: generally more stable, that is
[11:08] <Tinchio> Sanne: i found this "Package: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686 (2.6.15.11-4) [security]  [restricted] "
[11:08] <Sanne> Tinchio: understand, firstly :) Do you see that [restricted]  part?
[11:08] <Tinchio> Sanne: yes
[11:08] <ubuntu> i am running kubuntu knot3 livecd with vmware and its fast
[11:08] <jackle> Does kubuntu ship with a reiserfs4 module so that one can mount a reiser4 filesystem?
[11:08] <Phoenix1701> Hey folks; is there any way to get one's grubby mitts on the Oxygen icon theme for Dapper, preferably via apt-get?  The site seems to say it's finished, at least for Edgy...
[11:09] <ubuntu> reiser4 is coming with kernel 2.6.19 i heard
[11:10] <Sanne> Tinchio: oh, you also see "security", that's also a hint on what repositories you need to have enabled. So now we need to look at your /etc/apt/sources.list. Please paste the contents of this file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:10] <Tinchio> Sanne: im already in that file :D
[11:11] <Phoenix1701> (pretty please?) :)
[11:11] <Sanne> Tinchio: cool :) Paste it to the pastebin, please.
[11:11] <Tinchio> Sanne: which content? i don't undestand
[11:12] <Sanne> Tinchio: the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <Sanne> Tinchio: paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:13] <Tinchio> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23551
[11:13] <Sanne> Tinchio: looking...
[11:13] <flukej-walker> Phoenix1701: If I'm looking at the same site (oxygen-icons.org) it looks to me like its in development
[11:14] <Phoenix1701> flukej-walker: That's the right site, yeah...  the thing that makes me think it's done is this:  https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-icons
[11:14] <Phoenix1701> The "Implementation: Implemented" makes me think it's done.
[11:14] <Al> Hi all. My "Administrator Mode" button in network settings doesn't work. When I click it, the frame gets a red border and all the information in it is removed.
[11:15] <flukej-walker> Phoenix1701: you can always hunt around for a .deb package though
[11:15] <Phoenix1701> That's what I've been searching for; unfortunately it's difficult to search for "deb" on Google. ;)
[11:16] <timi> my comp is getting all messed up now
[11:16] <trappist> Al: run kde-guidance from the command line.  see if you get an error in the console when you click administrator mode.  if so, file a bug on launchpad and paste that output.
[11:16] <Sanne> Tinchio: try to add "restricted" to the line "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main", so that it reads: "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted"
[11:16] <timi> whenevr i open a program after log in it seems like x gets stuck
[11:16] <timi> like i open firefox, and everything got frozne but the firefox wepage i was on
[11:16] <Sanne> Tinchio: it's a the bottom, line 035 in pastebin
[11:16] <timi> and now iopen this and i cant click on any of my icons or the toolbar for this program or anything
[11:17] <flukej-walker> Phoenix1701: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2359 looks like a fair place to start
[11:17] <timi> does anyone know why when  i open  a program it seems to freeze everything else
[11:17] <jatos> is that the case for any program?
[11:17] <flukej-walker> timi: what version of FF?
[11:18] <Al> trappist: bash: kde-guidance: command not found
[11:18] <Tinchio> Sanne: ok now i try to download again?
[11:18] <Phoenix1701> Shiny.
[11:18] <timi> it not just firefox any program
[11:18] <timi> it just unfroze it self
[11:18] <timi> i open an program
[11:18] <Sanne> Tinchio: first you need to update apt, for exapmle in the konsole by typing: sudo apt-get update
[11:18] <trappist> Al: sorry, kde-guidance is the package name - the command is 'systemsettings'
[11:19] <timi> everything else freezes but the program im using, so i opened this first, all my tool bar buttons wouldn work, the links in this did work, but i culd still navigate my irc
[11:19] <Tinchio> Sanne:  done
[11:19] <ge2x> i get an error when trying to compile: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:19] <Sanne> Tinchio: ok, now again first simulate: sudo apt-get -s install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:19] <ge2x> what should i do?
[11:20] <Tinchio> Sanne:  already downloadin because now it finds the module :D
[11:20] <flukej-walker> ge2x: you need the -dev package for X
[11:20] <Phoenix1701> Hm...  all 403s though.  Oh well.
[11:20] <Sanne> Tinchio: ok, that would be the next step anyway :)
[11:20] <lecci> How can i run a sh .file
[11:20] <Frederick> folks I need some idea withi a problem Folks I have the following problem I have a project in kdevelop wich uses image magick but it seems unable to set breakpoints and stuff thou if I set breakpoints manually with gdb it runs smooth I have no idea about what can I do or what to look for
[11:20] <lecci> How can i run a sh .file?
[11:20] <trappist> lecci: sh filename
[11:20] <Al> trappist: all I get is an input device error, which I get when I load the app anyway.
[11:20] <lecci> don tell me nothing...
[11:21] <ge2x> flukej-walker: where do i get?
[11:21] <trappist> Al: nothing new on the console when you hit the admin mode button?
[11:21] <trappist> Al: what's the input device error (may be relevant, I dunno)
[11:21] <Sanne> Tinchio: sometimes it's tricky to find out exactly which repositories you need to enable. Looking at packages.ubuntu.com usually tells you.
[11:21] <flukej-walker> ge2x: if you use synampic, just search X dev
[11:22] <jackle> Does anybody know where I might be able to get a reiser4 kernel module for dapper?
[11:22] <Kr4t05> Question.
[11:22] <Tinchio> Sanne: thanks  a lot i hope that it works now, and if not i learnt something new about repositories :S
[11:22] <ge2x> flukej-walker: is adept the same?
[11:22] <Tinchio> Sanne: :D
[11:22] <Al> trappist: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" with some details. The same error appears when I first launch systemsettings.
[11:22] <Kr4t05> Is there any way to control the sound volume from command line?
[11:22] <Sanne> Tinchio: that was my plan :) Good luck!
[11:22] <Tinchio> Sanne: thanks :D
[11:23] <flukej-walker> ge2x: you can check, but Syn. is much better
[11:23] <Sanne> Tinchio: you're welcome :)
[11:23] <Al> trappist: and it doesn't appear the second time until I've pressed the admin mode button
[11:23] <flukej-walker> you can install Synaptic through Adept
[11:23] <ge2x> i agree but im using kubuntu is there an alternative?
[11:23] <flukej-walker> you can install Synaptic with Kub, I do
[11:24] <trappist> Al: sounds like something in your xorg.conf - not very helpful unfortunately
[11:24] <ge2x> kk tnx
[11:24] <flukej-walker> no prob
[11:24] <ep> Can someone help me install kubuntu-desktop?  Here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23553
[11:25] <kutan> How come I can't hear sound on an AVI even after downloading the w32 codecs?
[11:25] <Kr4t05> kutan: Install libxine-extracodecs?
[11:26] <flukej-walker> ep: have you tried it through adept or synaptic?
[11:26] <ep> yes same error
[11:26] <Trollinator> what's the difference, they both suck :o)
[11:26] <Trollinator> adept > all
[11:26] <allee> ep: what does 'apt-get install akode' give?
[11:26] <kutan> oy... Maybe that'll work Kr4t05 eheh
[11:26] <flukej-walker> ep: which package is broken?
[11:27] <Kr4t05> :)
[11:27] <Kr4t05> !keyboard
[11:27] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:27] <flukej-walker> ep: kubuntu-desktop has a billion depends
[11:27] <Al> trappist: maybe an xorg reconfigure?
[11:27] <ep> i'm not sure what's broken let me try akode
[11:27] <trappist> Al: I don't think that'll fix the message, and I don't think the message is the problem
[11:28] <Al> :x
[11:28] <flukej-walker> ep: synaptic has a 'broken' filter which comes in handy
[11:28] <kutan> Ah yeah that worked kr4to5 thanks a bunch
[11:28] <kutan> Until next time (I have a problem), see you peoples later.
[11:28] <ep> yes i fixed everything broken via synaptic ( i thought anyway)
[11:29] <ep> looks like i can install akode but it removing six other kde packages to do so :)
[11:29] <ep> so I'm going to do it, ok
[11:29] <Al> trappist: if i run systemsettings as root, can I bypass the admin mode button?
[11:29] <Al> or some other alternative?
[11:30] <trappist> Al: yes, that's worth a shot
[11:31] <ge2x> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! how to correct this error?
[11:31] <obf213> err i dont know wht  i did now but my x keeps freezing
[11:31] <obf213> when iclcik on somethinn my dekstop everything freezes but the desktop, when i open this program everything freezes but this program etc
[11:31] <flukej-walker> ge2x: did you install the -dev packages?
[11:32] <ge2x> X-dev is installed
[11:32] <ge2x> x-dev
[11:32] <obf213> i keep on having to cntr+alt+F1 to another loging screen then back to this one to unfreeze it
[11:32] <ge2x> i didnt need to install it
[11:32] <flukej-walker> how about x11-dev and stuff like that?
[11:33] <ge2x> hows it called exactly?
[11:33] <flukej-walker> not sure
[11:33] <fdoving> xorg-dev ?
[11:33] <ep> Thanks, I think this is going to work now. That was easy :)
[11:33] <flukej-walker> thats the one, also, I take it you've installed build-essentials?
[11:34] <ge2x> yeop its not installed
[11:34] <ge2x> tnx
[11:34] <ge2x> but it needs a hell lot of dependecies
[11:34] <fdoving> build essential is for make and gcc and stuff. xorg-dev is for the x devel libs.
[11:34] <fdoving> what is it you're going to compile?
[11:35] <ge2x> me?
[11:35] <fdoving> yes.
[11:35] <ge2x> kmobiletools
[11:35] <flukej-walker> you're gonna need the KDE-devs and stuff too
[11:35] <fdoving> there is a package in edgy, atleast. you can take the build-depends from it.
[11:36] <flukej-walker> you'll prob need libqt-mt, libqt-mt-dev
[11:36] <ge2x> so what should i do?
[11:36] <fdoving> ge2x: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kmobiletools
[11:37] <ge2x> and what to do now?
[11:38] <fdoving> ge2x: err, i mean, go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/kmobiletools
[11:38] <fdoving> ge2x: that's the build depends.
[11:39] <ge2x> so should i download them all?
[11:39] <fdoving> ge2x: that's for the 0.4.3.3 version, you should check the upstream changelog, for changes that would include more depends.
[11:39] <fdoving> ge2x: if you're going to build it, you have to.
[11:39] <mikedep333> hey, long story short, everything on my drive is now owned by root. Other than my home folder and /tmp, what should I enable users to access?
[11:40] <Timmynub> Anyone got any experiance with XGL/Compiz on Kubuntu please?
[11:40] <ge2x> ohh
[11:40] <ge2x> ok
[11:40] <fdoving> Timmynub: tried #ubuntu-xgl - that's where the XGL gurus live.
[11:40] <Timmynub> fdoving: much obliged
[11:41] <fdoving> mikedep333: most should be owned by root, users should however be able to read alot of the system files.
[11:41] <mikedep333> fdoving: yeah
[11:41] <mikedep333> I changed my home directory to be owned by me
[11:42] <mikedep333> but permissions got reset too
[11:42] <mikedep333> so I can still read system files
[11:42] <mikedep333> but what else should I reset?
[11:42] <SonicChao> Where is the character map for KDE?
[11:44] <fdoving> mikedep333: what is the permission of everything?
[11:45] <mikedep333> fdoving: nm
[11:45] <mikedep333> I can see the permissions of everything on my laptop
[11:45] <mikedep333> I'll just use that as a reference
[11:47] <obf213> when you log onto irc does it ttell u specific stuff for yur computer
[11:47] <fdoving> mikedep333: you can use 'chmod -R a+rX foo/' - that would make dirs 755 and files 644, i don't know if that helps you.. though.
[11:47] <mikedep333> fdoving: yeah, thanks
[11:47] <obf213> like it says "Your X is broke, the fix is to update again)
[11:47] <fdoving> mikedep333: make sure you don't run that on the bin or sbin directories. as it would disable all your programs.
[11:47] <obf213> is that specific to my computer, because every time i open a program everything else seems to not frerez but i can click it
[11:48] <fdoving> mikedep333: it'll remove the executable bit on your programs, so don't run it on /usr/bin or /usr/sbin or /bin or /sbin.. etc.
[11:48] <obf213> so for example ic ant clkin on anything but i can still use this program, but tlike teh window decorations are forzen i cant move them
[11:49] <alex_yo> hello @ all
[11:49] <alex_yo> can somebody help me?
[11:50] <vhogemann> alex_yo, sure
[11:50] <vhogemann> alex_yo, what's the problem?
[11:51] <alex_yo> where i have to install my own programs like blue j? in the dir /opt/blue j or /usr....
[11:52] <vhogemann> alex_yo, I usualy install under my own home dir...
[11:52] <vhogemann> alex_yo, but if you want to share it with another users, a nice place is /usr/local/
[11:53] <alex_yo> and  it works 4 other usr
[11:53] <alex_yo> without problems?
[11:53] <vhogemann> alex_yo, create a link to the executable under /usr/local/bin
[11:54] <vhogemann> if you install blue_j under /usr/loca/blue_j
[11:55] <vhogemann> do something like: ln -s /usr/local/blue_j/bluej.sh /usr/local/bin/bluej
[11:55] <fdoving> if you install it with --prefix=/usr/local it should be inteligent enought to put a executable in /usr/local/bin itself.
[11:55] <alex_yo> i install it in "/usr/local/bluej/"
[11:55] <Timmynub> meh, #ubuntu-xgl is evil lol
[11:55] <vhogemann> fdoving, I don't think he is using make to install it
[11:55] <vhogemann> fdoving, blue_j is a java app
[11:55] <obf213> my comp is doing this werid freezing thing
[11:55] <alex_yo> with java
[11:56] <fdoving> vhogemann: ok
[11:56] <obf213> were all the open apps are running, but i cant click on them
[11:56] <alex_yo> java -jar bluej.jar
[11:56] <Vegeta^> If my upload in KTorrent almost always stays on 0 kB/s, does it then have something to do with that I'm firewalled? I can download tough...
[11:56] <obf213> i cant click on any of the scroll bars on teh sides
[11:56] <fdoving> obf213: try alt+f2 'killall kwin;kwin &'
[11:57] <Phoenix1701> Is it safe to delete ~/.Xauthority?  Mine is currently owned by root and not readable or writable by me, which is causing me to be unable to do a remote X11 login.
[11:58] <fdoving> Phoenix1701: yes.
[11:59] <Phoenix1701> Awesome.  Do I have to do anything to recreate it (Google says something about xauth-b or whatnot)
[12:00] <fdoving> Phoenix1701: i think it'll be done automatically for you.
[12:00] <Vegeta^> Does kubuntu have a firewall? Where do I find it, and do I configure in it?
[12:00] <alex_> does anyone know how to make the scroll ball on a mouse not make web pages for forward and back?
[12:01] <alex_> vegeta, have u tried firestarter?
[12:01] <fdoving> Vegeta^: i recommend installing 'guarddog' for firewalling and if you need to share your internet connection, i recommend 'guidedog'. they can both be found in the Universe repository.
[12:02] <Vegeta^> ok.. So ubuntu isn't installed with a firewall?
[12:02] <fdoving> not by default. no.
[12:02] <fdoving> it isn't needed, as it's not shipped with any running services.
[12:03] <Vegeta^> ok
[12:06] <jatos> anyone here ever had an argument with a Gentoo to user as to whether Emerge or Apt-get is better?
[12:08] <fdoving> jatos: i don't need to, i know apt is the best of the two :)