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kwwiiexs: no idea, what does this have to do with artwork?12:11
kwwiiexs: why not ask on #kubuntu-devel?12:11
exsim sorry, i posted in the wrong channel12:12
kwwiiakkregator is my first response12:12
kwwiihehe12:12
kwwiino problem12:12
exsakkregator doesn't use keywords :(12:16
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troy_sSeveas:  Ping.05:04
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-artwork: Welcome! =-=-= Most current news and items https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/ =-=-= Start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork =-=-= Tasks at http://www.launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+specs =-=-= IRC Logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ =-=-=
=== Topic (#ubuntu-artwork): set by troy_s at Tue Sep 5 00:40:15 2006
Burgundaviaanybody alive?06:48
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Who_wow, it's got busy in here recently01:22
Who_hia ll01:22
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troy_sWho_sie welcome back01:34
troy_sWho_ just getting ready for work here01:34
Who_tory_s: muhahahahaha - yesterday was my last day :)01:35
troy_sWoop.01:35
Who_troy_s: however I have a horrible feeling uni may be hardwer work than my old job :P01:35
troy_sLaf.01:35
troy_sYeah in some ways it is.01:35
troy_sCongrats on the University thing though.01:35
troy_sFinish it.01:36
Who_?01:36
Who_oh - sorry, I get you :)01:36
troy_sYou just starting?01:36
troy_sOr do you have a couple of years under your belt?01:36
Who_nope, just starting...01:37
Who_General Engineering course at Cambridge01:37
Who_(UK)01:37
troy_sWow... amazing01:37
troy_sA good friend of mine just finished his masters in engineering01:37
troy_sVery bright fellow.01:37
Who_did he enjoy it? I'm alittle worried I might find it a bit 'dry'01:38
troy_sHe loved it.01:38
troy_sMasters thesis was a bit difficult though.01:38
troy_sI have been toying with a masters too...01:39
Who_troy_s: I'm working on an 'evolution' of your GDM...not in Xara, in Inkscape...is there much point or is that stuff pretty set now?01:39
troy_sBut it just seems like a long time for the next bump.01:39
troy_sGreat.01:39
Who_troy_s: in what?01:39
troy_sMFA01:39
Who_I can put up a little preview quickly if you like01:40
Who_MFA =?01:40
troy_sAbsolutely, love to see it.01:40
troy_sMasters of Fine Arts.01:40
troy_sBut it involves a good year of thesis work.01:40
troy_sSo I don't know how motivated I can be towards that right now :)01:40
Who_My sister is just working out what to do after her fine art (sculpture) degree01:41
Who_she is considering a masters in fine art with English literature ...weird!01:42
Who_I am pretty envious of people who do art degrees - I realised too late that I had a side of me that liked art/sculpture01:43
Who_maybe architecture is a possibility after an engineering degree...01:43
troy_sIndeed... That combination would make you pretty valuable.  ;)01:44
Who_and pretty old by the time I started working :P01:44
troy_sArchitecture involves a tremendous amount of history to really excel at it.01:44
troy_sBlah... its 2006.01:45
Who_lol01:45
Who_what do you do at the moment then?01:45
troy_sDid you get that?01:46
troy_sGet your work up.01:47
Who_troy_s: yea - and I replied...01:47
Who_just uploading now01:47
troy_sBy the by, re the progression -- Frank is busy working on several things right now.  Ultimately, however, if the desired goal is to Frankenstein everything01:47
Who_Frankenstein? make Frank's way?01:48
troy_sthen I would prefer it frankenstein back to the original dapper artwork.01:48
troy_sNo01:48
troy_sFrankenstein -- as in hodge podge bits and pieces together all over again.01:48
troy_sNo synth01:49
Who_that would be a real shame after all the work!01:49
troy_sJust a clip art approach to work.01:49
Who_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanAustin/EdgyGDMEvolution01:49
troy_sWell that has always remained possible.01:49
Who_work in prgress, most certainly01:49
troy_sAnd I tried to make that clear from the beginning.01:49
Who_yea - and sabdfl's comments on GDM (we will keep it the way it is...etc) seem to make that look more likely01:49
Who_maybe someone dugg the wiki again, it's very slow01:50
Who_or maybe it's my connection, who knows01:50
troy_sDamn slow01:51
troy_sMust continue to get ready...01:52
troy_slaf.01:52
troy_serm01:54
troy_slol01:54
troy_slaf means coward in dutch apparently, so i am trying to avoid using it in the channel.01:54
Who_lol01:55
Who_I made the changes I did to mkae the logo stand out and give the clear branding that Mark wants01:56
Who_Do you know if the dark browns are _very_ decided, or are they just there because that is what the best work at the end of produce looked like?01:56
troy_squickly join #temp01:57
troy_sbecause I must fly out in about three seconds.01:57
troy_sok must go.01:58
troy_sbe good.01:58
Who_troy_s: done01:59
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Who_Remenic: are you there?03:00
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newz2000Hey guys, got edgy running in vmware last night and found a bug... trying to figure out where to file it (or to see if its been reported)04:00
newz2000Is this the usplash: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/tmp/Screenshot-Edgy-Splash.png04:00
newz2000(the graphic with the progress bar that loads before gdm)04:01
newz2000Seveas: ping04:05
Seveasnewz2000, is the bug that usplash is looking misplaced?04:06
newz2000Yes04:06
Seveasnewz2000, the bug displayed on that screenshot is known04:06
newz2000ok, so no need to file it then?04:06
Seveasedit /etc/usplash.conf and do update-initramfs -u04:06
newz2000ok, as long as its known. This close to release I'd hate to sit on a bug. :-D04:07
Seveasit's a combination of an installer bug and a usplash bug04:08
Seveasthe latter is already fixed04:08
Seveasthe former is being fixed04:08
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Who_troy_s: you around?07:35
Who_anyone want to give some opinions on07:46
Who_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/WhoDefaultGDMAttempts07:46
PingunZhello Who_07:49
Who_Hi PinugunZ07:49
Who_how're things going?07:49
PingunZFine mate ;)07:50
PingunZI like gdm_00807:50
PingunZreally looks great ;)07:50
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PingunZIt should just be a little brighter07:51
effraiehello07:51
PingunZThe gdm_008 with gdm_001's backgreound colors.07:51
PingunZhey effraie07:51
effraiei just received Who_'s mail, but wiki is not available here...07:51
effraiehey PingunZ07:51
Who_PingunZ: unfortunately I think Edgy's gonna be darker....07:52
Who_hey eggraie: Wiki's been slow for me recently07:52
PingunZWho_: Why is that, all OS's are getting brighter ..07:52
effraiei'd like a sand color for the next release07:52
Who_that page has a fair amount on it07:52
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Who_PingunZ: post your opinion to the list :) I agree fully that the orangey caramels look better07:53
PingunZOr blue :)07:53
Who_effraie - have a look at these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/WhoLsplash07:53
Who_that kind of colour07:53
Who_?07:54
PingunZWho_: I'll mail my opinion to your gdm's.07:54
Who_thanks :)07:54
PingunZI'd like to make them btw ;)07:54
effraieWho_: the wiki is not available..07:54
Who_effraie: sorry, mighty stupid of me!07:54
effraiebut i think i see the colour you mean07:54
effraieso that kind of color, yes, but less glossy07:55
Who_effraie: yea, I tthink Nuak style with those colours would be great!07:55
Who_okay, I'll be back in a few moments :)07:55
effraiesee you07:55
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PingunZHey Who_08:09
Who_hiya08:09
PingunZI replied to your mail08:09
Who_Got it thanks08:09
Who_I'll work on the combination and see what it looks like08:09
PingunZThanks ;)08:09
PingunZDo you like the idea of basing all splashes on it ?08:10
Who_Yea, like SUSE do...08:19
PingunZYup08:20
PingunZHonestly, what is the best-looking distro out there ?08:20
Who_Suse for sure08:20
PingunZSuse, Why ? because its polished !08:20
effraie+108:20
Who_because it is complete, silky and cohernet08:21
Who_sorry, coherent08:21
PingunZSplashes, grub,splash, usplash, .. all based on the same background08:21
PingunZBUT not always the same08:21
PingunZThey make the same image different every time, that's what makes suse so nice08:22
PingunZMy current edgy looks like suse08:22
Who_PingunZ - I think they made one big image and chopped it up into buts for things08:23
Who_so it looks really coherent but not too boring08:23
effraiesomething  i dislike with suse is glossy everywhere08:23
PingunZTrue, and if ubuntu could do that, it would be THE distro08:23
PingunZatm, ubuntu rocks, but it isn't really good looking08:23
PingunZits all several pieces of art .. not nicely polished coherent looking08:24
PingunZAtm dapper -> Old brown gdm and then a glossy gsplash ..08:24
Who_the thing that is buggin me atm is the 'standard' background colour - I want to chnage it for Blubuntu08:25
Who_but I don't know how to do it automatically08:25
PingunZWho_: What background color ?08:28
PingunZof the gsplash ?08:28
Who_nope, the colour you see between logging in and Gnome colouring the desktop with my image08:29
Who_and the colour you see before the GDM loads08:29
Who_I think it should either be black or be easily changeable by a theme08:29
PingunZAh, that's what I meant .. the color that is not set by the splash itself08:30
PingunZSettings -> administ. -> login window08:31
PingunZBackground color :08:31
PingunZAnd it will be in one of the /usr/share/gdm files08:32
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KurtKrautwhat is the best way to comment the current Edgy artwork ?10:28
PingunZWiki or mailing list10:30
KurtKrautPingunZ, which wiki precisely ?10:31
PingunZwiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork10:31
KurtKrautthanks10:32
PingunZhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/10:32
KurtKrautlet me ask u something...10:33
KurtKrautI've notice that currently, the troy_s design is set in Edgy10:33
PingunZYup10:33
KurtKrauthow this decision is made ?10:33
PingunZBy the Team staff10:33
PingunZAiC, Frank Schoep10:34
KurtKrauthm... I see.10:34
KurtKrautBecause I've shown it to many people and I didn't find yet someone who liked it10:34
KurtKrautSo I'm bit worried if it design get to the final version10:34
KurtKrautPingunZ, I didn't find yet in the artwork wikis a place to comment this.10:35
PingunZKurtKraut: Well, its not final at all10:36
PingunZand you can just post comments in the wiki10:36
KurtKrautthanks10:41
PingunZBut please, if you comment it, be specific.10:42
PingunZWe don't learn anything with ' Ubuntu art is crap '10:42
PingunZTell us what could be better / what you don't like , ..10:42
KurtKrautPingunZ, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming#head-939d2e040976632a19a237e2a2b2893c7db1f0f110:45
KurtKrautPingunZ, check if it is helpul. I can add more data if you think it would be more useful10:46
PingunZNo, KurtKraut its fine ..10:47
PingunZthere are a few minor typo's :)10:47
PingunZI'll be restarting x-chat now brb10:47
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PingunZBack ;)10:49
KurtKrautPingunZ, my english is very rusted10:50
KurtKrautI moved my comment from the main page to the troy_s submission page10:50
PingunZKurtKraut: mine too ;)10:50
PingunZI learned a lot b joining this team ;)10:50
PingunZLink ?10:50
KurtKrautbut I'm worried if this will make my comment less visible to the Team10:50
PingunZHmm10:51
PingunZI'll try to tell a few people ;)10:51
KurtKrautbut in general... my point of view is: something lighter than troy_s submission10:52
KurtKrautand Glossy effect may give a 'modern' look'n'feel10:52
KurtKrautI do realize that Vista is getting darker with the use of black background. But they are doing it to emphasise the light (ilumination) effects10:53
PingunZKurtKraut: I edited your typo's10:56
KurtKrautPingunZ, thanks :D10:57
PingunZeek, I removed your name apparently .. fixing it :)10:58
PingunZFixed :)11:00
KurtKrautthnx11:01
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KurtKrautMy comment was a report of what people said to me about this artwork11:02
KurtKrautBut personally, I think that would be good if we explode more the 'animals' of the name of our versions11:02
KurtKrautlike the Eft11:02
PingunZPut it in the wiki too, I like the idea11:04
PingunZbut I think we haven't got enough time for that11:04
PingunZmaybe edgy+111:04
KurtKrautyeap11:04
PingunZ'night all11:08
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