[12:11] <kwwii> exs: no idea, what does this have to do with artwork?
[12:11] <kwwii> exs: why not ask on #kubuntu-devel?
[12:12] <exs> im sorry, i posted in the wrong channel
[12:12] <kwwii> akkregator is my first response
[12:12] <kwwii> hehe
[12:12] <kwwii> no problem
[12:16] <exs> akkregator doesn't use keywords :(
[05:04] <troy_s> Seveas:  Ping.
[06:48] <Burgundavia> anybody alive?
[01:22] <Who_> wow, it's got busy in here recently
[01:22] <Who_> hia ll
[01:34] <troy_s> Who_sie welcome back
[01:34] <troy_s> Who_ just getting ready for work here
[01:35] <Who_> tory_s: muhahahahaha - yesterday was my last day :)
[01:35] <troy_s> Woop.
[01:35] <Who_> troy_s: however I have a horrible feeling uni may be hardwer work than my old job :P
[01:35] <troy_s> Laf.
[01:35] <troy_s> Yeah in some ways it is.
[01:35] <troy_s> Congrats on the University thing though.
[01:36] <troy_s> Finish it.
[01:36] <Who_> ?
[01:36] <Who_> oh - sorry, I get you :)
[01:36] <troy_s> You just starting?
[01:36] <troy_s> Or do you have a couple of years under your belt?
[01:37] <Who_> nope, just starting...
[01:37] <Who_> General Engineering course at Cambridge
[01:37] <Who_> (UK)
[01:37] <troy_s> Wow... amazing
[01:37] <troy_s> A good friend of mine just finished his masters in engineering
[01:37] <troy_s> Very bright fellow.
[01:38] <Who_> did he enjoy it? I'm alittle worried I might find it a bit 'dry'
[01:38] <troy_s> He loved it.
[01:38] <troy_s> Masters thesis was a bit difficult though.
[01:39] <troy_s> I have been toying with a masters too...
[01:39] <Who_> troy_s: I'm working on an 'evolution' of your GDM...not in Xara, in Inkscape...is there much point or is that stuff pretty set now?
[01:39] <troy_s> But it just seems like a long time for the next bump.
[01:39] <troy_s> Great.
[01:39] <Who_> troy_s: in what?
[01:39] <troy_s> MFA
[01:40] <Who_> I can put up a little preview quickly if you like
[01:40] <Who_> MFA =?
[01:40] <troy_s> Absolutely, love to see it.
[01:40] <troy_s> Masters of Fine Arts.
[01:40] <troy_s> But it involves a good year of thesis work.
[01:40] <troy_s> So I don't know how motivated I can be towards that right now :)
[01:41] <Who_> My sister is just working out what to do after her fine art (sculpture) degree
[01:42] <Who_> she is considering a masters in fine art with English literature ...weird!
[01:43] <Who_> I am pretty envious of people who do art degrees - I realised too late that I had a side of me that liked art/sculpture
[01:43] <Who_> maybe architecture is a possibility after an engineering degree...
[01:44] <troy_s> Indeed... That combination would make you pretty valuable.  ;)
[01:44] <Who_> and pretty old by the time I started working :P
[01:44] <troy_s> Architecture involves a tremendous amount of history to really excel at it.
[01:45] <troy_s> Blah... its 2006.
[01:45] <Who_> lol
[01:45] <Who_> what do you do at the moment then?
[01:46] <troy_s> Did you get that?
[01:47] <troy_s> Get your work up.
[01:47] <Who_> troy_s: yea - and I replied...
[01:47] <Who_> just uploading now
[01:47] <troy_s> By the by, re the progression -- Frank is busy working on several things right now.  Ultimately, however, if the desired goal is to Frankenstein everything
[01:48] <Who_> Frankenstein? make Frank's way?
[01:48] <troy_s> then I would prefer it frankenstein back to the original dapper artwork.
[01:48] <troy_s> No
[01:48] <troy_s> Frankenstein -- as in hodge podge bits and pieces together all over again.
[01:49] <troy_s> No synth
[01:49] <Who_> that would be a real shame after all the work!
[01:49] <troy_s> Just a clip art approach to work.
[01:49] <Who_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanAustin/EdgyGDMEvolution
[01:49] <troy_s> Well that has always remained possible.
[01:49] <Who_> work in prgress, most certainly
[01:49] <troy_s> And I tried to make that clear from the beginning.
[01:49] <Who_> yea - and sabdfl's comments on GDM (we will keep it the way it is...etc) seem to make that look more likely
[01:50] <Who_> maybe someone dugg the wiki again, it's very slow
[01:50] <Who_> or maybe it's my connection, who knows
[01:51] <troy_s> Damn slow
[01:52] <troy_s> Must continue to get ready...
[01:52] <troy_s> laf.
[01:54] <troy_s> erm
[01:54] <troy_s> lol
[01:54] <troy_s> laf means coward in dutch apparently, so i am trying to avoid using it in the channel.
[01:55] <Who_> lol
[01:56] <Who_> I made the changes I did to mkae the logo stand out and give the clear branding that Mark wants
[01:56] <Who_> Do you know if the dark browns are _very_ decided, or are they just there because that is what the best work at the end of produce looked like?
[01:57] <troy_s> quickly join #temp
[01:57] <troy_s> because I must fly out in about three seconds.
[01:58] <troy_s> ok must go.
[01:58] <troy_s> be good.
[01:59] <Who_> troy_s: done
[03:00] <Who_> Remenic: are you there?
[04:00] <newz2000> Hey guys, got edgy running in vmware last night and found a bug... trying to figure out where to file it (or to see if its been reported)
[04:00] <newz2000> Is this the usplash: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/tmp/Screenshot-Edgy-Splash.png
[04:01] <newz2000> (the graphic with the progress bar that loads before gdm)
[04:05] <newz2000> Seveas: ping
[04:06] <Seveas> newz2000, is the bug that usplash is looking misplaced?
[04:06] <newz2000> Yes
[04:06] <Seveas> newz2000, the bug displayed on that screenshot is known
[04:06] <newz2000> ok, so no need to file it then?
[04:06] <Seveas> edit /etc/usplash.conf and do update-initramfs -u
[04:07] <newz2000> ok, as long as its known. This close to release I'd hate to sit on a bug. :-D
[04:08] <Seveas> it's a combination of an installer bug and a usplash bug
[04:08] <Seveas> the latter is already fixed
[04:08] <Seveas> the former is being fixed
[07:35] <Who_> troy_s: you around?
[07:46] <Who_> anyone want to give some opinions on
[07:46] <Who_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/WhoDefaultGDMAttempts
[07:49] <PingunZ> hello Who_
[07:49] <Who_> Hi PinugunZ
[07:49] <Who_> how're things going?
[07:50] <PingunZ> Fine mate ;)
[07:50] <PingunZ> I like gdm_008
[07:50] <PingunZ> really looks great ;)
[07:51] <PingunZ> It should just be a little brighter
[07:51] <effraie> hello
[07:51] <PingunZ> The gdm_008 with gdm_001's backgreound colors.
[07:51] <PingunZ> hey effraie
[07:51] <effraie> i just received Who_'s mail, but wiki is not available here...
[07:51] <effraie> hey PingunZ
[07:52] <Who_> PingunZ: unfortunately I think Edgy's gonna be darker....
[07:52] <Who_> hey eggraie: Wiki's been slow for me recently
[07:52] <PingunZ> Who_: Why is that, all OS's are getting brighter ..
[07:52] <effraie> i'd like a sand color for the next release
[07:52] <Who_> that page has a fair amount on it
[07:53] <Who_> PingunZ: post your opinion to the list :) I agree fully that the orangey caramels look better
[07:53] <PingunZ> Or blue :)
[07:53] <Who_> effraie - have a look at these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/WhoLsplash
[07:53] <Who_> that kind of colour
[07:54] <Who_> ?
[07:54] <PingunZ> Who_: I'll mail my opinion to your gdm's.
[07:54] <Who_> thanks :)
[07:54] <PingunZ> I'd like to make them btw ;)
[07:54] <effraie> Who_: the wiki is not available..
[07:54] <Who_> effraie: sorry, mighty stupid of me!
[07:54] <effraie> but i think i see the colour you mean
[07:55] <effraie> so that kind of color, yes, but less glossy
[07:55] <Who_> effraie: yea, I tthink Nuak style with those colours would be great!
[07:55] <Who_> okay, I'll be back in a few moments :)
[07:55] <effraie> see you
[08:09] <PingunZ> Hey Who_
[08:09] <Who_> hiya
[08:09] <PingunZ> I replied to your mail
[08:09] <Who_> Got it thanks
[08:09] <Who_> I'll work on the combination and see what it looks like
[08:09] <PingunZ> Thanks ;)
[08:10] <PingunZ> Do you like the idea of basing all splashes on it ?
[08:19] <Who_> Yea, like SUSE do...
[08:20] <PingunZ> Yup
[08:20] <PingunZ> Honestly, what is the best-looking distro out there ?
[08:20] <Who_> Suse for sure
[08:20] <PingunZ> Suse, Why ? because its polished !
[08:20] <effraie> +1
[08:21] <Who_> because it is complete, silky and cohernet
[08:21] <Who_> sorry, coherent
[08:21] <PingunZ> Splashes, grub,splash, usplash, .. all based on the same background
[08:21] <PingunZ> BUT not always the same
[08:22] <PingunZ> They make the same image different every time, that's what makes suse so nice
[08:22] <PingunZ> My current edgy looks like suse
[08:23] <Who_> PingunZ - I think they made one big image and chopped it up into buts for things
[08:23] <Who_> so it looks really coherent but not too boring
[08:23] <effraie> something  i dislike with suse is glossy everywhere
[08:23] <PingunZ> True, and if ubuntu could do that, it would be THE distro
[08:23] <PingunZ> atm, ubuntu rocks, but it isn't really good looking
[08:24] <PingunZ> its all several pieces of art .. not nicely polished coherent looking
[08:24] <PingunZ> Atm dapper -> Old brown gdm and then a glossy gsplash ..
[08:25] <Who_> the thing that is buggin me atm is the 'standard' background colour - I want to chnage it for Blubuntu
[08:25] <Who_> but I don't know how to do it automatically
[08:28] <PingunZ> Who_: What background color ?
[08:28] <PingunZ> of the gsplash ?
[08:29] <Who_> nope, the colour you see between logging in and Gnome colouring the desktop with my image
[08:29] <Who_> and the colour you see before the GDM loads
[08:29] <Who_> I think it should either be black or be easily changeable by a theme
[08:30] <PingunZ> Ah, that's what I meant .. the color that is not set by the splash itself
[08:31] <PingunZ> Settings -> administ. -> login window
[08:31] <PingunZ> Background color :
[08:32] <PingunZ> And it will be in one of the /usr/share/gdm files
[10:28] <KurtKraut> what is the best way to comment the current Edgy artwork ?
[10:30] <PingunZ> Wiki or mailing list
[10:31] <KurtKraut> PingunZ, which wiki precisely ?
[10:31] <PingunZ> wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
[10:32] <KurtKraut> thanks
[10:32] <PingunZ> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/
[10:33] <KurtKraut> let me ask u something...
[10:33] <KurtKraut> I've notice that currently, the troy_s design is set in Edgy
[10:33] <PingunZ> Yup
[10:33] <KurtKraut> how this decision is made ?
[10:33] <PingunZ> By the Team staff
[10:34] <PingunZ> AiC, Frank Schoep
[10:34] <KurtKraut> hm... I see.
[10:34] <KurtKraut> Because I've shown it to many people and I didn't find yet someone who liked it
[10:34] <KurtKraut> So I'm bit worried if it design get to the final version
[10:35] <KurtKraut> PingunZ, I didn't find yet in the artwork wikis a place to comment this.
[10:36] <PingunZ> KurtKraut: Well, its not final at all
[10:36] <PingunZ> and you can just post comments in the wiki
[10:41] <KurtKraut> thanks
[10:42] <PingunZ> But please, if you comment it, be specific.
[10:42] <PingunZ> We don't learn anything with ' Ubuntu art is crap '
[10:42] <PingunZ> Tell us what could be better / what you don't like , ..
[10:45] <KurtKraut> PingunZ, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming#head-939d2e040976632a19a237e2a2b2893c7db1f0f1
[10:46] <KurtKraut> PingunZ, check if it is helpul. I can add more data if you think it would be more useful
[10:47] <PingunZ> No, KurtKraut its fine ..
[10:47] <PingunZ> there are a few minor typo's :)
[10:47] <PingunZ> I'll be restarting x-chat now brb
[10:49] <PingunZ> Back ;)
[10:50] <KurtKraut> PingunZ, my english is very rusted
[10:50] <KurtKraut> I moved my comment from the main page to the troy_s submission page
[10:50] <PingunZ> KurtKraut: mine too ;)
[10:50] <PingunZ> I learned a lot b joining this team ;)
[10:50] <PingunZ> Link ?
[10:50] <KurtKraut> but I'm worried if this will make my comment less visible to the Team
[10:51] <PingunZ> Hmm
[10:51] <PingunZ> I'll try to tell a few people ;)
[10:52] <KurtKraut> but in general... my point of view is: something lighter than troy_s submission
[10:52] <KurtKraut> and Glossy effect may give a 'modern' look'n'feel
[10:53] <KurtKraut> I do realize that Vista is getting darker with the use of black background. But they are doing it to emphasise the light (ilumination) effects
[10:56] <PingunZ> KurtKraut: I edited your typo's
[10:57] <KurtKraut> PingunZ, thanks :D
[10:58] <PingunZ> eek, I removed your name apparently .. fixing it :)
[11:00] <PingunZ> Fixed :)
[11:01] <KurtKraut> thnx
[11:02] <KurtKraut> My comment was a report of what people said to me about this artwork
[11:02] <KurtKraut> But personally, I think that would be good if we explode more the 'animals' of the name of our versions
[11:02] <KurtKraut> like the Eft
[11:04] <PingunZ> Put it in the wiki too, I like the idea
[11:04] <PingunZ> but I think we haven't got enough time for that
[11:04] <PingunZ> maybe edgy+1
[11:04] <KurtKraut> yeap
[11:08] <PingunZ> 'night all