[12:11] exs: no idea, what does this have to do with artwork? [12:11] exs: why not ask on #kubuntu-devel? [12:12] im sorry, i posted in the wrong channel [12:12] akkregator is my first response [12:12] hehe [12:12] no problem [12:16] akkregator doesn't use keywords :( === dborg_ [n=daniel@e182060231.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:04] Seveas: Ping. === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-artwork.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Topic for #ubuntu-artwork: Welcome! =-=-= Most current news and items https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/ =-=-= Start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork =-=-= Tasks at http://www.launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+specs =-=-= IRC Logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ =-=-= === Topic (#ubuntu-artwork): set by troy_s at Tue Sep 5 00:40:15 2006 [06:48] anybody alive? === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-014-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549558FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === dborg [n=daniel@e182060231.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Who_ [n=jonny@88-111-45-99.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:22] wow, it's got busy in here recently [01:22] hia ll === RonanR [n=ronan@trcgp237.bham.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === RonanR [n=ronan@trcgp237.bham.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Ex-Chat"] [01:34] Who_sie welcome back [01:34] Who_ just getting ready for work here [01:35] tory_s: muhahahahaha - yesterday was my last day :) [01:35] Woop. [01:35] troy_s: however I have a horrible feeling uni may be hardwer work than my old job :P [01:35] Laf. [01:35] Yeah in some ways it is. [01:35] Congrats on the University thing though. [01:36] Finish it. [01:36] ? [01:36] oh - sorry, I get you :) [01:36] You just starting? [01:36] Or do you have a couple of years under your belt? [01:37] nope, just starting... [01:37] General Engineering course at Cambridge [01:37] (UK) [01:37] Wow... amazing [01:37] A good friend of mine just finished his masters in engineering [01:37] Very bright fellow. [01:38] did he enjoy it? I'm alittle worried I might find it a bit 'dry' [01:38] He loved it. [01:38] Masters thesis was a bit difficult though. [01:39] I have been toying with a masters too... [01:39] troy_s: I'm working on an 'evolution' of your GDM...not in Xara, in Inkscape...is there much point or is that stuff pretty set now? [01:39] But it just seems like a long time for the next bump. [01:39] Great. [01:39] troy_s: in what? [01:39] MFA [01:40] I can put up a little preview quickly if you like [01:40] MFA =? [01:40] Absolutely, love to see it. [01:40] Masters of Fine Arts. [01:40] But it involves a good year of thesis work. [01:40] So I don't know how motivated I can be towards that right now :) [01:41] My sister is just working out what to do after her fine art (sculpture) degree [01:42] she is considering a masters in fine art with English literature ...weird! [01:43] I am pretty envious of people who do art degrees - I realised too late that I had a side of me that liked art/sculpture [01:43] maybe architecture is a possibility after an engineering degree... [01:44] Indeed... That combination would make you pretty valuable. ;) [01:44] and pretty old by the time I started working :P [01:44] Architecture involves a tremendous amount of history to really excel at it. [01:45] Blah... its 2006. [01:45] lol [01:45] what do you do at the moment then? [01:46] Did you get that? [01:47] Get your work up. [01:47] troy_s: yea - and I replied... [01:47] just uploading now [01:47] By the by, re the progression -- Frank is busy working on several things right now. Ultimately, however, if the desired goal is to Frankenstein everything [01:48] Frankenstein? make Frank's way? [01:48] then I would prefer it frankenstein back to the original dapper artwork. [01:48] No [01:48] Frankenstein -- as in hodge podge bits and pieces together all over again. [01:49] No synth [01:49] that would be a real shame after all the work! [01:49] Just a clip art approach to work. [01:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanAustin/EdgyGDMEvolution [01:49] Well that has always remained possible. [01:49] work in prgress, most certainly [01:49] And I tried to make that clear from the beginning. [01:49] yea - and sabdfl's comments on GDM (we will keep it the way it is...etc) seem to make that look more likely [01:50] maybe someone dugg the wiki again, it's very slow [01:50] or maybe it's my connection, who knows [01:51] Damn slow [01:52] Must continue to get ready... [01:52] laf. [01:54] erm [01:54] lol [01:54] laf means coward in dutch apparently, so i am trying to avoid using it in the channel. [01:55] lol [01:56] I made the changes I did to mkae the logo stand out and give the clear branding that Mark wants [01:56] Do you know if the dark browns are _very_ decided, or are they just there because that is what the best work at the end of produce looked like? [01:57] quickly join #temp [01:57] because I must fly out in about three seconds. [01:58] ok must go. [01:58] be good. [01:59] troy_s: done === Who_ [n=jonny@88-111-45-99.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:00] Remenic: are you there? === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:00] Hey guys, got edgy running in vmware last night and found a bug... trying to figure out where to file it (or to see if its been reported) [04:00] Is this the usplash: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/tmp/Screenshot-Edgy-Splash.png [04:01] (the graphic with the progress bar that loads before gdm) [04:05] Seveas: ping [04:06] newz2000, is the bug that usplash is looking misplaced? [04:06] Yes [04:06] newz2000, the bug displayed on that screenshot is known [04:06] ok, so no need to file it then? [04:06] edit /etc/usplash.conf and do update-initramfs -u [04:07] ok, as long as its known. This close to release I'd hate to sit on a bug. :-D [04:08] it's a combination of an installer bug and a usplash bug [04:08] the latter is already fixed [04:08] the former is being fixed === PingunZ [n=kristof@233.142-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Who_ [n=jonny@88-111-45-99.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [07:35] troy_s: you around? [07:46] anyone want to give some opinions on [07:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/WhoDefaultGDMAttempts [07:49] hello Who_ [07:49] Hi PinugunZ [07:49] how're things going? [07:50] Fine mate ;) [07:50] I like gdm_008 [07:50] really looks great ;) === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [07:51] It should just be a little brighter [07:51] hello [07:51] The gdm_008 with gdm_001's backgreound colors. [07:51] hey effraie [07:51] i just received Who_'s mail, but wiki is not available here... [07:51] hey PingunZ [07:52] PingunZ: unfortunately I think Edgy's gonna be darker.... [07:52] hey eggraie: Wiki's been slow for me recently [07:52] Who_: Why is that, all OS's are getting brighter .. [07:52] i'd like a sand color for the next release [07:52] that page has a fair amount on it === PingunZ points at OSX, Windblows, SuSE, .. [07:53] PingunZ: post your opinion to the list :) I agree fully that the orangey caramels look better [07:53] Or blue :) [07:53] effraie - have a look at these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/WhoLsplash [07:53] that kind of colour [07:54] ? [07:54] Who_: I'll mail my opinion to your gdm's. [07:54] thanks :) [07:54] I'd like to make them btw ;) [07:54] Who_: the wiki is not available.. [07:54] effraie: sorry, mighty stupid of me! [07:54] but i think i see the colour you mean [07:55] so that kind of color, yes, but less glossy [07:55] effraie: yea, I tthink Nuak style with those colours would be great! [07:55] okay, I'll be back in a few moments :) [07:55] see you === Who_ [n=jonny@88-111-45-99.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:09] Hey Who_ [08:09] hiya [08:09] I replied to your mail [08:09] Got it thanks [08:09] I'll work on the combination and see what it looks like [08:09] Thanks ;) [08:10] Do you like the idea of basing all splashes on it ? [08:19] Yea, like SUSE do... [08:20] Yup [08:20] Honestly, what is the best-looking distro out there ? [08:20] Suse for sure [08:20] Suse, Why ? because its polished ! [08:20] +1 [08:21] because it is complete, silky and cohernet [08:21] sorry, coherent [08:21] Splashes, grub,splash, usplash, .. all based on the same background [08:21] BUT not always the same [08:22] They make the same image different every time, that's what makes suse so nice [08:22] My current edgy looks like suse [08:23] PingunZ - I think they made one big image and chopped it up into buts for things [08:23] so it looks really coherent but not too boring [08:23] something i dislike with suse is glossy everywhere [08:23] True, and if ubuntu could do that, it would be THE distro [08:23] atm, ubuntu rocks, but it isn't really good looking [08:24] its all several pieces of art .. not nicely polished coherent looking [08:24] Atm dapper -> Old brown gdm and then a glossy gsplash .. [08:25] the thing that is buggin me atm is the 'standard' background colour - I want to chnage it for Blubuntu [08:25] but I don't know how to do it automatically [08:28] Who_: What background color ? [08:28] of the gsplash ? [08:29] nope, the colour you see between logging in and Gnome colouring the desktop with my image [08:29] and the colour you see before the GDM loads [08:29] I think it should either be black or be easily changeable by a theme [08:30] Ah, that's what I meant .. the color that is not set by the splash itself [08:31] Settings -> administ. -> login window [08:31] Background color : [08:32] And it will be in one of the /usr/share/gdm files === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@233.142-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@233.142-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@233.142-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@233.142-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === KurtKraut [n=ktk@unaffiliated/kurtkraut] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:28] what is the best way to comment the current Edgy artwork ? [10:30] Wiki or mailing list [10:31] PingunZ, which wiki precisely ? [10:31] wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork [10:32] thanks [10:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/ [10:33] let me ask u something... [10:33] I've notice that currently, the troy_s design is set in Edgy [10:33] Yup [10:33] how this decision is made ? [10:33] By the Team staff [10:34] AiC, Frank Schoep [10:34] hm... I see. [10:34] Because I've shown it to many people and I didn't find yet someone who liked it [10:34] So I'm bit worried if it design get to the final version [10:35] PingunZ, I didn't find yet in the artwork wikis a place to comment this. [10:36] KurtKraut: Well, its not final at all [10:36] and you can just post comments in the wiki [10:41] thanks [10:42] But please, if you comment it, be specific. [10:42] We don't learn anything with ' Ubuntu art is crap ' [10:42] Tell us what could be better / what you don't like , .. [10:45] PingunZ, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming#head-939d2e040976632a19a237e2a2b2893c7db1f0f1 [10:46] PingunZ, check if it is helpul. I can add more data if you think it would be more useful [10:47] No, KurtKraut its fine .. [10:47] there are a few minor typo's :) [10:47] I'll be restarting x-chat now brb === PingunZ [n=kristof@233.142-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:49] Back ;) [10:50] PingunZ, my english is very rusted [10:50] I moved my comment from the main page to the troy_s submission page [10:50] KurtKraut: mine too ;) [10:50] I learned a lot b joining this team ;) [10:50] Link ? [10:50] but I'm worried if this will make my comment less visible to the Team [10:51] Hmm [10:51] I'll try to tell a few people ;) [10:52] but in general... my point of view is: something lighter than troy_s submission [10:52] and Glossy effect may give a 'modern' look'n'feel [10:53] I do realize that Vista is getting darker with the use of black background. But they are doing it to emphasise the light (ilumination) effects [10:56] KurtKraut: I edited your typo's [10:57] PingunZ, thanks :D [10:58] eek, I removed your name apparently .. fixing it :) [11:00] Fixed :) [11:01] thnx === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Talk] [11:02] My comment was a report of what people said to me about this artwork [11:02] But personally, I think that would be good if we explode more the 'animals' of the name of our versions [11:02] like the Eft [11:04] Put it in the wiki too, I like the idea [11:04] but I think we haven't got enough time for that [11:04] maybe edgy+1 [11:04] yeap [11:08] 'night all === Who_ [n=jonny@88-111-45-99.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54957ABC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54957ABC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork