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jendaBurgwork: did you get those four locale screenshots you wanted from elkbuntu yet?12:06
Burgworknot yet12:08
jendaRight.12:08
jendaShe had to go to sleep, and she passed the duty on to me...12:09
jendaand I had to run off before...12:09
jendaso I'm working on it now.12:09
Burgworkif you can't do it, I will play with it tonight12:09
jendaShe found out that the artwork _is_ different than in Dapper, so it can't be cheated.12:09
jendaI'm currently looking for a volunteer in #ubuntu+112:09
Burgworkright, I can do it on my edgy machine12:14
Burgworkif you want to go over the Knot3 page instead12:14
jendaYou have one :)12:14
jendalinky?12:15
jendanvm, got it.12:17
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jendaI need to go to sleep. Sorry to have failed you there.01:20
Burgworkjenda, no worries01:20
jendaI'd like to know what you think about the DIY thing I mailed to the list. But no hurry, I'll be off for a week.01:21
jenda(unless I can read it in the morning)01:21
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john_littleanyone have a notebook recommendation?02:47
Rinchenif you buy an apple or IBM send me an email. I get discounts.02:48
Rinchenjjs@ubuntu.com02:48
john_littlehows that work?02:49
Rinchenibm I can give you a special userid and pw, apple it's a special webpage02:55
popeyI have a Dell and I love it02:56
popeyI borrowed a 17" MacBook Pro from Apple and didn't really get on with it02:56
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john_littlethinking about a toshiba 12"03:15
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elkbuntuBurgundavia, ping?05:14
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: pong05:15
elkbuntusorry about the pics, do you still need them?05:16
Burgundaviafor the i18n stuff? yes, absolutely05:16
elkbuntui've managed to get the dist upgrade to complete so i at least have the right icons and wallpaper now05:17
elkbuntuim going to email you a tar.gz with stuff in a sec, gmail ok?05:17
Burgundaviafor the artwork?05:18
Burgundaviafrank already did the background, etc.05:18
elkbuntuthe stuff you asked me for last night?05:18
Burgundaviayes, the 4 sections in 4 languages I still need05:18
elkbuntui may or may nto have misinterpreted what you requested.. i couldnt really ask after you'd gone05:19
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: well, shoot it to me05:20
elkbuntuemail sent now05:20
Burgundaviaor upload it05:21
elkbuntui've sent it to your gmail05:21
elkbuntuyou've ended up with french, chinese, russian and arabic. cant get a much more varied selection :)05:22
Burgundaviathat is ok05:23
elkbuntubtw, arabic is *trippy* to work in.. because *everything* is backwards and you habitually hit the wrong button to cancel ;)05:23
elkbuntuthe composition is ok?05:24
Burgundaviathose are perfect05:24
elkbuntuthe story was.. oo.o adamantly refused to open in chinese or japanese05:25
elkbuntuin dapper05:25
Burgundaviathe composition of the four is not exaclty what I had in mind05:25
Burgundaviabut I will play with them05:25
elkbuntuyep, thats why i included the shots05:25
elkbuntutext is not a great way of trying to portray how you want an image to look05:26
elkbuntu;)05:26
Burgundaviayes05:26
elkbuntuany other locale based stuff you need?05:27
Burgundavianope05:28
Burgundaviagah, trying todo 3 thing at once05:29
elkbuntuyeah.. i know that feeling05:29
elkbuntuim just sorry it took me so long to do those, but nothing wanted to cooperate last night :(05:30
Burgundaviano worries05:33
Burgundaviawe got lucky, Knot 3 has not been released yet05:33
elkbuntubtw.. it's Arabic (India), Chinese (China Mainland), French (UTF8),  and Russian.05:33
elkbuntuif you wanted to be specific for th page :)05:33
elkbuntualso, from my experience, edgy handles swapping and changing locales much better than dapper.. dapper i had to reset the machine between, edgy i havent had to05:40
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3 now05:49
elkbuntu:)05:50
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elkbuntui'll keep those translations on the laptop i guess... they'll be useful another time05:54
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=== Topic (#ubuntu-marketing): set by Burgundavia at Mon Sep 11 04:10:54 2006
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: thoughts on our Knot 3 page?06:37
elkbuntuapart from the fact im not a fan of art.. it feels like it's missing stuff.. like.. after the translations or something06:38
elkbuntuim not sure what though..06:39
Burgundaviayes, I don't know that we had more changes?06:41
elkbuntuBurgundavia, is upstart the only cool change..06:41
Burgundaviayep06:41
Burgundaviaand that is not something one takes screenshots of06:41
elkbuntutrue. may be include the logo there for the prettiness factor?06:42
Burgundaviasure06:42
elkbuntueek.. 'incorrect password' message hurts against the new darker login screen06:44
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: can you reshoot the russian image?06:47
Burgundaviawithout gimp active?06:47
elkbuntusure06:48
nixternaldon't forget the new usplashes as well which are new for knot306:56
Burgundavianixternal: already covered, should move the screenshot06:57
nixternalim done..just waiting for knot 3 to be released now06:58
elkbuntuin transit, Burgundavia06:59
Burgundaviacheers06:59
elkbuntui hadnt really noticed that it was active until you mentioned it just now06:59
Burgundavianor did I07:00
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: got it07:05
Burgundavianow I wish I had saved that bloody gimp image as something other than a png07:05
=== elkbuntu comforts Burgundavia.
elkbuntui know that feeling oh-so-well07:05
Burgundaviahow do I move a selection in the gimp?07:07
elkbuntuum... not sure.07:08
elkbuntui've been using gimp for over 2 years now and i have nfi :|07:09
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elkbuntuahhh i know now07:12
elkbuntui think07:12
elkbuntuwell you can make it float from the selection menu07:13
elkbuntuand you can move it around and it'll anchor when you click outside the selection07:13
elkbuntu^-- best i can come up with, Burgundavia07:14
Burgundaviano, I need to move the selection box, not the actual selection07:14
MadpilotBurgundavia, having fun with the GIMP again?07:15
elkbuntuo.O07:15
Burgundaviayes07:15
BurgundaviaI hate it07:15
=== Burgundavia goes stabby on teh gimp
BurgundaviaMadpilot: can you do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=languages.png better?07:16
BurgundaviaI have the source files, courtesy of the lovely elkbuntu07:16
Madpilotnot on a LiveCD on a laptop without enough RAM, I can't07:16
elkbuntuMadpilot, if you ever need a brainf*** load up an arabic locale :)07:16
elkbuntuBurgundavia, i'll have a go since i know what you want now07:16
Burgundaviaok, thanks07:17
Burgundaviatry copying arabic into a bunch of text07:17
BurgundaviaI did that with the GNOME posters I was doing a while back07:17
MadpilotI don't even dare think about loading the GIMP on this thing - it would probably freeze solid07:17
Burgundaviaok, thanks07:18
elkbuntuBurgundavia, im talking how everything is backwards.. you try cancel out of something and it takes you several attempts before you remmeber to hit 'the other button'07:18
Burgundaviaah07:18
Madpilotyeah, the cursor running "backwards" when you're dealing with RTL scripts is very odd07:19
nixternalBurgundavia: if you want, sling me the orig's on those images, and i will do it up for you quickly07:20
nixternalonly take me 1 minute..and you say yay/nay to it07:21
Burgundaviaelkbuntu is going to have a go, now that she knows what I was thinking07:21
elkbuntuwell. lets see who can do it better :P07:21
nixternalgimme some digs07:21
nixternali have pbuilders going everywhere07:21
nixternalim starting to get scared07:21
Burgundaviaelkbuntu can you fire the images to nixternal or should I?07:22
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nixternalhehe07:22
elkbuntuyou can, i'd have to find his addy07:22
nixternalwatch it on the moooooshy stuff guy ;)07:22
nixternaldcc it07:22
nixternali think my firewall is being nice07:22
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Burgundaviaprefectly sober07:23
nixternalhaha07:23
Burgundaviajust happy07:23
Burgundaviamy life is going very well recently07:23
BurgundaviaI wish I could tell you all why, but most of it is work and very much hush hush07:24
elkbuntuoooh, fun :)07:24
Madpilotslightly silly amounts of money are involved, but I'll say no more ;)07:24
Burgundaviaone thing I can tell is that work is paying my way to the GNOME summit in Boston07:25
nixternalwhere are them pics?07:25
nixternalbah boston07:26
Burgundavianixternal: incoming07:26
MadpilotBurgundavia, nice, you won't have to squat on someone else's floor ;)07:26
Burgundaviayep07:26
nixternalchicago messed up big time..we used to have all of the killer shows here at one point07:26
Burgundaviasent07:27
Burgundavianixternal: can you add your event to the UWN calendar?07:27
nixternalsure can07:27
nixternalin october ;)07:27
nixternalbut i can pimp it for the next month ;)07:27
Burgundaviaif it was announced this week, it goes in this weeks07:27
nixternalno prob07:28
Burgundaviaafter that it lives in the fridges calendar07:28
elkbuntuBurgundavia, will you be coming down under for LCA?07:29
Burgundaviawork and I are talking07:29
BurgundaviaI won't say either yes or no07:29
elkbuntucool, in consideration at least07:29
=== elkbuntu will be going, even submitted a proposal for a presentation
john_littleStart wewantcorey.com Melissa07:29
elkbunturofl07:30
=== elkbuntu needs to find some job that lets her do this stuff so she doesnt have to try find something that will detract from it
john_littleMaybe its time for you to leave the big island..go consult in HK or something07:32
elkbuntuim not -that good- at linux, i just like it lots07:32
john_littleits ok. most consultants arent good at anything07:33
john_littleCan you use words like "synergy" and "mindshare" in a sentence..and work powerpoint/Presentation?07:35
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: what do you do currently?07:36
elkbuntuBurgundavia, nothing, well, work for the dole as of tuesday coming :(07:37
Burgundaviaright07:37
john_littleWed development07:37
john_littleer Web07:37
elkbuntujohn_little, i like to tell myself that, but i've had 1 client since november last year so well.. :(07:37
john_littleOk so now customers..but you can still do it07:39
john_littlenow=no07:39
elkbuntuyeah07:39
john_littleAnd you've launched a very successful site for one of the hottest tech projects around07:40
john_littleI hope the counter is on your resume07:40
elkbuntuon my folio07:40
elkbuntuon/in07:40
john_littlecool07:40
john_littleI know a company hiring like mad...but the jobs are in India07:44
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nixternalhttp://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/bah.png07:47
nixternaldunno if i really like it07:47
john_littleI think it looks pretty good07:50
john_littlehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=n0rGyajWdlg07:51
Burgundavianixternal: too tall07:55
nixternalmy thoughts exactly07:55
elkbuntuBurgundavia, dont worry, im here ;)07:55
elkbuntugimme a sec to move them07:55
elkbuntuhttp://meldra.no-ip.info:8080/translations07:56
elkbuntuyou even get choice!07:56
Burgundaviathoughts?07:58
Burgundavia1st is cleaner07:58
elkbuntuyeah07:58
elkbuntu2nd was just 'hmm i wonder'07:58
elkbuntubut you -can- see more of each pic imho07:59
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: all yours to edit07:59
Burgundaviareplace the existing languages.png pelase07:59
elkbuntuwhich one though? 1st or 2nd?08:00
Burgundaviathe 1st, with the cascade like the one I mocked up08:01
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elkbuntuthere you go :)08:04
Burgundavialooks good08:05
elkbuntui still say find a pic of the upstart logo to make that part stand out more08:08
Burgundavianot hard08:09
Burgundavialook on keybuks blog08:09
Burgundaviaok, are we ready to move to the ubuntu website08:15
Burgundavia?08:15
Burgundaviaelkbuntu, john_little final thoughts/edits on Knot3?08:15
elkbuntuim still wading through the planet trying to find a post from keybuk so i can find his blog and the logo08:16
Burgundavianetsplit.com08:17
elkbuntuwww. seems useful with that site ;)08:18
john_littlefind it?08:19
elkbuntuyep08:21
john_littlelooks nice08:22
john_littleKnot3 that is08:22
elkbuntuBurgundavia, ive left the 'in progress notice' and you may want to fix up the upstart logo's placement.... i dont know how to use the wiki good enough08:24
Burgundaviaon the website I can use HTML08:24
elkbuntuok then well i'll leave you to the rest :)08:25
Burgundaviahttp://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/09/customizing_ubuntu_live_cd_606_1.html <--- cool08:26
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elkbuntusecond comment == cool, all the comments that said 'you didnt search so we'll pop your bubble of success' == not cool08:29
john_littlenice work on the knot3 stuff ppl08:31
john_littleI'm going to bed..getting up early to buy a new laptop before work :)08:32
Burgundaviahmm, http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fluendo_Multimedia_Codecs_DRM_Ubuntu08:32
john_littlelol08:32
john_littleI just dug it...and commented ;)08:34
MadpilotBurgundavia gets dugg ;)08:36
Burgundaviaheh08:36
Madpilotwhich video is that, anyway? (I'm currently Flashless...)08:36
john_littleHe's just pissed that they didn't refer to him as "Chief Editor"08:36
Burgundaviaright08:37
Burgundavianot really08:37
john_little;)08:37
Burgundaviaadded the adobe story to the UWN08:37
BurgundaviaMadpilot: it is the video of my at Google08:37
Madpilotjohn_little, his actual title is "Grand Poobah & Principal Sh*t Disturber", I think08:37
Burgundaviaafter 5 days of solid talking08:38
john_littleCorey Burger, PSD08:38
Burgundaviamy voice was pretty much done08:38
john_littleYeah I get like that about twice a week. during bouts of presentations08:38
john_littlecoffee helps08:39
Burgundaviaick08:39
john_littleok, microwave a cup of Diet Rockstar :)08:40
john_littlethat would be gross actually08:40
elkbuntui dont like plain coffee, but mocha and flavoured lattes are ok08:41
MadpilotLondon Fog - Earl Grey + steamed milk. brilliant source of caffiene.08:42
Burgundaviafunny, I had never heard that until today and now two people mention it to me08:42
elkbuntutea does not release as much caffeine as coffee08:42
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: I agree with you on the coffee thing08:42
MadpilotBurgundavia, what, London Fog?08:43
Burgundaviayep08:43
Madpilotbest thing to come out of the Starbucks-add-steamed-milk-to-everything craze, IMO08:44
john_littleLondon Fog is great....sprinkle like 2-3 drops on a gallon of Kona coffee08:44
john_littlestarbucks isn't tasty..it's convenient08:45
john_littlethe coffee that is08:45
elkbuntuand good value08:45
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elkbuntuwhite chocolate mocha == teh awesomeness08:46
Madpilotjohn_little, starbucks is shite coffee; they over-roast (ie, burn) their beans08:46
john_littlegotta respect a company that can make a tall drink with more fat than a double cheeseburger08:46
john_littleyep...but they're on every corner so I find myself in there more than id like08:47
elkbuntui get steamed milk rather than cream ;)08:47
john_littleI drink black americanos..starbucks makes a C grade americano08:48
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Burgundaviaok, truly last words (until tomorrow morning)09:00
Burgundaviamoving knot 3 over09:00
elkbuntucool09:03
Burgundaviahttps://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot309:03
Madpilotwhen is Knot3 being released?09:03
Burgundaviasoon09:04
Burgundaviasadly, I have no idea as to exact time09:04
Madpilotsoon as in hours, or soon as in a few days?09:05
Burgundaviahours, likely09:05
BurgundaviaI have just pinged Mithrandir to find out09:05
elkbuntui'd imagine hours, it was supposed to be this morning09:05
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: one issue with your image09:06
Burgundaviaits drop shadow is a different direction09:06
Burgundaviacould you correct that on the wiki? (the page is pulling from the wiki for images)09:06
elkbuntui noticed that, ok i'll fix it09:06
elkbuntuit might mean the cascade goes the other way though09:06
Burgundaviahmm, that is no good09:07
Burgundaviawell, lets see09:07
elkbuntuyep, gimme a min09:07
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elkbuntuwell there you go, doesnt look quite as 3d anymore but oh well09:13
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: that is great09:14
Burgundaviathanks so much for your hard work09:14
elkbuntu:) you sleep well now09:14
Burgundaviawe should probably put the standard footer on that page, listing people and then the marketing team, rather than me09:14
BurgundaviaI will do that tomorrow09:14
elkbuntui dont think therei s any real need09:15
BurgundaviaI do09:16
Burgundaviabecause unlike when mgalvin did it, these are much more team efforts09:16
elkbuntuup to you09:18
Madpilotneed sleep - night, all09:19
elkbuntucya Madpilot09:19
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jendaI was so sorry that noone responded to my email that I did it myself.11:16
jendaaaand, my smtp server is prolly dead now.11:25
jendasent.11:28
jendaI'll be off for a week, so see y'all.11:28
MenZa:o11:33
MenZacya, jenda11:33
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free_attitudehello03:40
free_attitudeanyone here?03:42
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MenZano.04:09
MenZanoone's here.04:09
free_attitudereally?04:09
free_attitude:)04:09
MenZanope.04:10
MenZasorry to disappoint.04:10
free_attitudedamn :)04:11
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Klaidashmm05:21
KlaidasI just got some Ubuntu CDs, yay!05:21
KlaidasThe interesting part of this that I got them from a friend who I told about Ubuntu :-D05:21
KlaidasHe didn't believe that you can really get free cds from shipit, so I just told him to order and try it05:22
Klaidashe was amazad when they came and let me keep some :))05:23
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