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sistpotyhi folks12:22
ajmitchhi sistpoty12:24
ajmitchhow's it going?12:24
sistpotyhi ajmitch12:24
sistpotyfine... I've finally got a new box :)12:24
ajmitchgreat :)12:24
ajmitchsistpoty: just so you know, we're planning a revu day for monday12:24
sistpotyajmitch: just read LaserJock's mail :)12:25
ajmitchah good, he sent an email?12:25
sistpotyyep12:25
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ajmitchLaserJock: thanks for sending that12:27
LaserJocknp12:28
LaserJocksistpoty: will you be around at all?12:28
sistpotyLaserJock: not quite sure yet... I hope I can find some time on monday12:28
ajmitchdoesn't have to be monday - we just need to get stuff reviewed ;)12:29
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sistpotybtw.: what do I need to do to get s.th. into dapper-updates?12:31
ajmitchsistpoty: ask mdz/kamion12:32
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ajmitchthere are new procedures now anyway12:32
ajmitchnot sure what applies to universe12:32
sistpotyk, wil do12:32
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sistpoty+l12:32
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Burgworkajmitch, do you need a new machine?12:33
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Burgworkajmitch, were you not complaining about how slow it was?12:33
ajmitchBurgwork: if I was, I'd probably be complaining about the one at work12:34
ajmitchwhile I'd like a new machine, I probably don't need one for home just yet :)12:34
Burgworkright. It may have been you bitching about the bandwidth12:34
ajmitchthat's far more likely12:34
ajmitchsince I live in NZ..12:34
ajmitchmy home box is an amd64, with RAID, lots of RAM, etc12:34
ajmitchnot slow to build on12:34
zuljust kernel stuff :)12:36
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ajmitchzul: you never seem to bother with CONCURRENCY_LEVEL :)12:36
ajmitchI'm sure it'd make building a bit faster12:36
zuli do..12:36
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zuli just sometimes forget12:37
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LaserJockargg, my dev box is a 1.3Ghz P4 :/12:37
ajmitch-/+ buffers/cache:    3349768     69556012:37
ajmitchthat's a sad indictment of the linux desktop - >3GB RAM used ;)12:38
LaserJockyou guys and your silly AMD64's and > 256MB RAM12:38
BurgworkLaserJock, are you freaking serious?12:38
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Burgworkwe need to launch of fund for developers who need machines12:38
zulLaserJock: hah...2.4Ghz here12:38
ajmitchBurgwork: sounds like a good idea :)12:39
sistpotywith my new box, it's a completely new feeling of playing quake4 now... no longer look, turn, guess, shoot, wait for next frame... ;)12:39
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LaserJockBurgwork: yeah 1.3GHz P4 with 256MB of Rambus with a 30GB hard drive12:40
LaserJockthat's my pbuilder machine12:40
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ajmitchLaserJock: we need to pass the hat around12:40
FujitsuOoh dear. RDRAM...12:40
Burgworkright. I have a 2.5 ghz athlon with 1gb of ram sitting here doing nothing12:40
ajmitchsistpoty: heh, I know that feeling :)12:40
ajmitchBurgwork: should be cheap to ship to the US12:40
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LaserJockI think we could use just having some machines that we can ssh into12:41
Burgworkajmitch, just need output hotplug to work, so I can use my laptop as my primary machine12:41
BurgworkLaserJock, do you want access to mine?12:41
LaserJockI have a 1.8 GHZ AMD at home but I can't use it much for dev work :/12:41
sistpotysilly question: is there some policy for setuid-root executables?12:42
BurgworkI am quite serious, as it mostly sits there and does nothing12:42
Burgworksistpoty, pitti will have you shot12:42
Burgworkthat answer your question?12:42
sistpotyBurgwork: not really... I new there was s.th. like if you need suid, use debconf some ancient time, but does that still apply?12:43
Burgworkno idea12:43
BurgworkI don't do this "development" stuff12:43
sistpotyand then it was don't do setuid, but that might be only rumors12:43
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llusseris anyone working on porting libpam-krb5-2.3 from debian unstable ?12:47
ajmitchllusser: no, should be a straight sync12:49
llusserwhat do you mean by straight sync12:50
ajmitchwe ask the archive admins to update it from debian12:50
Burgworksiretart, ping12:52
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sistpotyBurgwork: I doubt you'll have much luck at that time of day... (it's almost 1am here)12:53
Burgworksistpoty, you can always hope12:54
LaserJockBurgwork: sistpoty would also do just as well ;-)12:54
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ajmitchsistpoty: run away while you have the chance12:54
kinemaAren't most packages in universe pulled directly from Debian?12:55
sistpotykinema: yep12:55
LaserJockyeah12:55
LaserJockBurgwork: ajmitch would also work :-)12:55
Burgworksistpoty, in /query12:55
Burgworkall these tasty victims^WWhelpers12:55
lakinSo if I needed to build an ubuntu package for Dapper which is in Debian unstable, and is likely to end up in edgy, is it a straightforward process to grab the package/source and rebuild it for my box?12:57
kinemaI'm looking at ejabberd right now which in universe is still v1.0.0.  The Debian package was updated to to v1.1.1 back in May.  Why is there such a lag?12:57
kinemaBTW I'm working in Edgy right now.12:57
ajmitchkinema: because at upstream version freeze, we stop automatically syncing packages that are unmodified in ubuntu12:58
LaserJocklakin: yeah12:58
ajmitchkinema: in this case:12:58
lakinLaserJock: I assume there's some documentation for that, but for some reason I can't find it.  Mind pointing me in the general direction?12:58
ajmitch  ejabberd | 1.0.0-1build1 | http://apt-proxy edgy/universe Packages12:58
ajmitch  ejabberd |    1.1.1-4 | http://apt-proxy edgy/universe Sources12:58
ajmitchkinema: we have 1.1.1 sources, but it failed to build12:59
LaserJocklakin: grab the Debian unstable source package and build it in a Dapper pbuilder12:59
lakink.  /me goes off looking for pbuilder docs01:00
BurgworkLaserJock, I will set that up when I get home01:00
kinemaajmitch: what motu is responsible for the package?  if i wanted to talk to someone about it who would i talk to?  MOTOIM?01:00
ajmitchkinema: it requires erlang-nox to build, which is not built in ubuntu01:00
LaserJockBurgwork: ok, cool01:00
lakinLaserJock: thanks01:00
BurgworkLaserJock, the machine is not going to be up 24/7, but I will start it every morning01:00
LaserJock!packagingguide > lakin01:00
ajmitchkinema: that may help01:01
LaserJockBurgwork: good enough for me, we're on the same TZ01:01
kinemaajmitch: thanks.01:01
lakin!packagingguide > llusser01:01
crimsunLaserJock: depends what "good" connotes01:04
ajmitchcrimsun: what do you have to build on?01:04
crimsunajmitch: amd64 and i386 (tiber)01:04
ajmitchright01:05
ajmitchlast I heard you had an old laptop01:05
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BurgworkLaserJock, you know what is sick? We just bought a amd64 3000 with 512mb for our demo machine and most of the time it will just sit in this office unused01:05
crimsunyep, still have that. I don't have a local pbuilder.01:05
ajmitchcrimsun: unfortunate01:05
LaserJockBurgwork: yep, I've got a 2.6 P4 with 1 GB of ram in the next room, but it's for data collection and has to run a 2.4 kernel :(01:06
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BurgworkLaserJock, you not switch the machines around?01:06
LaserJockBurgwork: nope01:07
LaserJockwhen I'm collecting data I need a good machine01:07
crimsunajmitch: / LaserJock: Mondays fine (RE: a REVU day)01:07
LaserJockcrimsun: way cool01:07
ajmitchsladen: bug 60472 would be humourous if it wasn't such a problem :)01:07
UbugtuMalone bug 60472 in xorg "Spacebardoesnotworkafterupgradetoedgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6047201:07
Burgworkajmitch, I think that has to make it the UWN this week01:09
Burgworkmake it to, rather01:09
Burgworkin terms of developer access, would acquiring a fairly fast amd64 and making it available be worth it?01:11
ajmitchI think it'd be quite useful01:12
ajmitchmaking it available to people in ubuntu-dev, perhaps01:12
Burgworkyep01:12
Burgworklet me see what I can do01:12
ajmitchthanks01:12
LaserJockyeah, that would be great actually01:13
LaserJockthere have been several times when I've come across an AMD64-only FTBFS or bug01:14
LaserJockand I can't do a thing about it01:14
ajmitchBurgwork: ideally it'd be something that canonical would sponsor, like tiber01:14
Burgworkajmitch, yes, it would01:16
LaserJockmaybe we could kidnap elmo at the dev summit and hold him for ransom ;-)01:18
Burgworkhe is kind of large, might take a few of us01:19
ajmitchscary thought01:20
Burgworklooks like I can get the kind of machine that would be needed for about 700 CAD01:20
LaserJockI'd say mdz but he seems too crafty01:20
=== ajmitch would love to go to mountain view, but I doubt it'll happen
Burgworkajmitch, apply for sponsorship01:20
ajmitchsee last part of sentence01:21
Burgworkother things in the way01:21
Burgwork?01:21
ajmitchno01:21
ajmitchdoubt I'll get sponsorship all the way from NZ :)01:21
Burgworkit is not that far01:21
ajmitchwhere are people going to stay, anyway?01:22
Burgworkno idea01:22
LaserJockthat's what I'm not sure of01:22
Burgworkmountain view is not a great location to stay in01:22
Burgworksf is an hour away01:22
LaserJockit didn't seem like the kind of place to have on=site accomidations01:22
Burgworkno, it doesn't01:23
Burgworkajmitch, is only 1300 for a ticket from auckland to sfo01:23
ajmitchauckland->sf is a 12+ hour flight01:23
ajmitchI can't afford $130001:23
Burgworkyes, but canonical can01:24
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LaserJockI'm sure the fine folks in Mountian View wouldn't mind ~100 weirdos with Ubuntu t-shirts hanging out in the parks ;-)01:24
ajmitchLaserJock: compared to the other weirdos in the area, I'm sure we'd fit in nicely01:24
LaserJockhaha01:24
LaserJockat least we could give out CDs01:25
ajmitchmaybe canonical doesn't want us to sleep, and we keep speccing through the night01:25
LaserJockI'm sure SF gives out laptops to all the homeless people01:25
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ajmitchhm01:26
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ajmitchBurgwork: ok, I'll put my name down on the list, but I doubt I'll get it01:27
LaserJockI put my name in for accomidations01:28
tsengajmitch: hey01:28
LaserJockthought I might as well01:28
tsengajmitch: mark lets you go at 9pm, he has a heart01:28
ajmitchkind of him01:28
LaserJock9pm on Friday? ;-)01:28
tsengif i pay my own way01:28
tsengi am totally going out01:28
tsengwhenever i feel like it01:28
tsengi dont think ill go, though01:28
LaserJock:(01:29
tsengim pretty much out of paid vacation01:29
LaserJocktseng: can't stand being that close to the Left coast? ;-)01:29
tsengLaserJock: all those lefties do get me a little testy01:30
LaserJock:-)01:30
tsengLaserJock: you aren't a leftie, are you?01:30
LaserJocktseng: sorry no, registered Republican, voted for Bush... both times01:31
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tsengmy hero01:31
tsengi took a beating about Bush in #gnome-hackers yesterday01:31
ajmitchwhat a surprise01:31
LaserJockhaha01:31
tsengall your international lefties01:32
tsengwho think they have a say01:32
lotusleafRalph Nader in 2008!01:32
BurgworkLaserJock, you are truly on crack, but I don't hold it against you01:32
tsengNader would be awesome01:32
LaserJockI just don't get into it much, nobody is going to convince anybody01:32
tsengI get into it01:32
LaserJockBurgwork: me neither ;-)01:32
lotusleaftseng: I vote for Nader for President, Gov and mayor every year01:32
tsengbecause in Gnome there is enough of a majority for people to be comfortable saying they are undeniably right, etc01:33
tsengprobably in open source in general01:33
tsengRepublican == stupid, etc01:33
LaserJocktseng: well, I'm also at a state university ;-)01:34
LaserJockI remember the day afte Bush got relected01:35
tsenganyway01:35
LaserJockwe had a goup meeting01:35
LaserJockyou could totally tell who was on each side01:35
lotusleaftseng: excellent article by Nader: "Error Message" Microsoft has performed an illegal function and should be shut down" http://web.archive.org/web/20041009195732/http://www.sfbg.com/nader/100.html01:35
tsengmore seriously01:35
tsengMcCain in 200801:35
tsengwoo01:35
lotusleafbah01:36
lotusleafNader!01:36
tsengyou're wasting your vote01:36
LaserJock*cough*didn't he die of old age?*cough*01:36
tsengbut im sure you knew that01:36
lotusleaftseng: just like Linus wasted his time?01:36
lotusleaftseng: it's not a waste at all, the red/blue parlor games are the real waste of time01:36
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tsenglotusleaf: linus didnt need 51% of a vote01:37
lotusleaftseng: he didn't need contributers either?01:37
tsengsure he did01:37
lotusleaftseng: exactly01:38
tsengNader just takes a minimal number of votes away from the Dems01:38
lotusleaftseng: the tv brainwashes most, so the real people who should be elected never will01:38
lotusleaftseng: history records my vote, it does matter01:38
tsengok :)01:38
lotusleaftseng: sure, if you care about red/blue parlor games01:38
tsengI do01:39
tsengred or blue wins01:39
tsenggreen doesnt.01:39
lotusleaftseng: Win/Apple!01:39
lotusleaftseng: nix doesnt01:39
tsengok well there are millions of computers01:39
tsengone president of the US every 4 years01:39
tsengstill not the same01:39
lotusleaftseng: only because we have no lennon/king of today01:39
tsengjohn?01:39
lotusleaftseng: people listen to TV because there's no real speaker of the people01:40
tsengI wasnt around but "of the people" for John Lennon wasnt really voting adults01:41
tsengfrom the best I can gather01:41
lotusleaftseng: no need to be around, read history01:41
tsengI watched his videos, listened to most of his music01:41
azeem(this discussions looks like it might be a candidate to move it to #ubuntu-offtopic)01:42
tsengim not moving anywhere01:42
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tsengill quit if you feel strongly01:42
sistpotydon't take the fun out of -motu ;)01:42
lotusleaftseng: how's the weather?01:42
tsenglotusleaf: rainy and not so warm01:42
LaserJockjust getting cold here01:43
ajmitchhm01:43
LaserJockhas been dry and in the 90s01:43
=== ajmitch wonders at the use of the affiliation & interest columns on the sponsorship page when everyone duplicates the content
LaserJockwhere is that?01:44
ajmitchhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitMountainView/Sponsorship of course :)01:44
=== ajmitch probably should add other things to the list
LaserJockI tried to vary it01:50
ajmitchit doesn't say when sponsorship requests cut off01:51
LaserJockman, pygi sure added enough stuff01:52
ajmitchyes01:52
LaserJockI think I should have listed every package I've uploaded ;-)01:52
ajmitchhaha01:52
LaserJockjust to be sure01:52
LaserJockcause they might not know01:53
ajmitchI should add everythign I'm remotely interested in01:53
ajmitchooh, I forgot zope/plone on the list ;)01:53
FujitsuSilly people going to UDSes :(01:53
ajmitchFujitsu: no, silly people futilely applying for sponsorship01:54
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lotusleafbut alas, I haven't applied ;)01:55
lotusleafI have eaten several habaneros whole though01:55
Fujitsuajmitch, probably.01:55
ajmitchok, bbl01:55
FujitsuSee ya/01:56
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beligumHi guys, I'm experiencing a strange error: if I try to build a package using pbuilder-edgy (setup like in the howto), all is well02:02
beligumif I try the same for dapper (also pbuilder), it fails between dh_install and dh_installchangelog02:02
FujitsuWhat error?02:03
beligummake: *** [binary-indep]  Error 102:03
beligumpbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package02:03
FujitsuThere's probably an error listed before that...02:04
beligum(I get a dh_install: I have no package to build too, but on pbuilder-edgy as well, so I guess that's normal)02:04
beligumCould it be that pbuilder-edgy is more tolerant regarding errors?02:05
LaserJockI wouldn't think so02:05
beligum"dh_install: I have no package to build" is the last real error message I can find, but on both builds02:06
beligumand one of them keeps on going, so I don't think that's the problem02:06
beligumanyway, I'll debug some more, thought this might be some common error, but it's likely not02:10
sistpotybeligum: my guess would be that you've got debian/control wrong02:10
beligumhm, in what way?02:10
sistpotybeligum: do you have a "Package: " entry?02:11
beligumyes02:11
beligumtwo02:11
sistpotybeligum: ok, was just a blind guess from me...02:11
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beligum(doing a complete new/fresh build now, perhaps that's the problem)02:12
beligumno, still the same proble02:12
bddebianHeya gang02:13
FujitsuHi bddebian.02:13
bddebianHello Fujitsu02:14
sistpotybeligum: oh, nice... I guess I just found a hint: are you trying to do s.th. in binary-indep but don't have any arch:all packages?02:14
sistpotyhi bddebian02:14
bddebianHeya sistpoty02:15
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beligumhmm, now you mention that: I've two packages (libinstrudeo0 and libinstrudeo-dev), but both of them are "Architecture: any"02:16
beligumcould that be the prob?02:16
beligumThis is my debian directory: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/libinstrudeo-0609141615/libinstrudeo-0.1.3/debian/02:17
beligumStrange it works on edgy though02:19
sistpotybeligum: yes, you build two arch:any packages, so actually binary-indep should be empty (since there is no arch:all package)02:21
beligumsistpoty: that did the trick indeed, thanks a lot02:30
sistpotynp02:30
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beligumAnother question, someone advised me (think it was Ridell) to install usr/lib/*.so.* for the regular library, and usr/lib/*.so to the -dev package02:48
beligumHowever, ScreenKast (uses this lib) fails to compile because the libfoo.so isn't present02:49
Hobbseemorning all02:49
beligumHi Hobbsee02:49
Hobbseehey beligum02:49
sistpotybeligum: screenkast would need to build-depend on the -dev package (and the -dev package must depend on the library package)02:50
beligumMorning over there?02:50
sistpotybeligum: so the both symlink and shared object should be available for building screenkast02:50
sistpotyhi Hobbsee02:50
beligumsistpoty: yeah, of course, stupid of me02:50
Hobbseehi sistpoty02:51
sistpotybeligum: btw.: you can find some nice stuff in the debian library packaging guide about librarries (just google for it)02:51
sistpoty-r02:51
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ajmitchHobbsee!03:06
Hobbseeajmitch!03:07
ajmitchhow are you?03:08
FujitsuMorning, Hobbsee.03:11
Hobbseeajmitch: i'm okay ;)03:11
Hobbseehey Fujitsu03:11
bddebianDamn I have got to get sistpoty to show me how he reviews packages.. Sheesh03:17
sistpotybddebian: not too much magic involved here03:18
sistpotybddebian: why?03:19
Hobbseeshow me too03:19
bddebiansistpoty: You seem to keep catching tons of shit that I miss :-(03:19
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ajmitchbddebian: experience..03:19
ajmitchkeep reviewing or we'll come over there & do things...03:20
lakinbddebian: that's why reviews always have more than one person.  If anyone could learn to review and never miss anything, it'd be a different game. ;)03:21
sistpotyI basically just look at the .diff.gz first (gives some overview over all files), then check if the orig.tarball matches, build the package and look at lintian, look at the files the package installs and finally grep for copyright in the sources. not really much more03:21
FujitsuAnybody want to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3104?03:21
bddebiansistpoty: You said you uploaded kwin-style-hypnotista-siyah but I don't see it??03:23
sistpotybddebian: I'm still about to upload it ;)03:23
bddebian:-)03:23
bddebianFujitsu: What did you change?03:23
sistpotybddebian: anything wrong with it? (I didn't start the upload yet actually)03:24
bddebianajmitch: Go for it03:24
bddebiansistpoty: Nope, just noticed your comment :-)03:24
sistpotyhehe03:24
sistpotyup it goes03:25
sistpotybddebian: ok, I admit I do have some magic for reviewing: http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/scripts/ralf.py03:26
bddebian:-)03:27
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Hobbseesistpoty: nice!03:28
sistpotybddebian: come on, w.o. you universe would suck!03:29
sistpotyHobbsee: thx03:29
bddebiansistpoty: Heh, yeah right, but thanks03:29
bddebiansistpoty: If you get a sec, could you poke at gaim-libnotify?03:29
ajmitchbddebian: remind me to bring a big stick to when I meet you03:29
sistpotybddebian: sure, give me 5 mins (need a cigarette first)03:30
bddebiansistpoty: Hmm, not a bad idea :-)03:30
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bddebianajmitch: Well I guess we'll have to never meet then ;-P03:30
ajmitchwe will...03:31
ajmitchHobbsee knows how scary I am03:33
Fujitsubddebian, desktop/icons moved to -data.03:33
Hobbseeindeed.03:33
bddebianFujitsu: Is that correct? ;-)03:34
chillywillynice script sistpoty03:37
ajmitchbddebian: have you cleaned up the REVU queue yet?03:38
bddebianajmitch: No, I told you I quit :-)03:40
chillywillybddebian: then you'd be a slacker like me ;)03:41
chillywillyis that what it has come to?03:41
bddebianHeya chillywilly03:41
chillywillyhi03:41
ajmitchchillywilly: beat some sense into him, please03:44
bddebianYeah chillywilly, good luck with that :)03:45
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chillywillybddebian: you're the all-singing all-dancing crap of the world03:48
chillywillybddebian: and if you don't know where that quote came from then I shall disown you forever ;)03:49
chillywillybddebian: you'll have to forgive me for not puting it in quotes though, my bad homie03:52
bddebianhehe03:54
chillywillywell?03:54
beligumnight all03:55
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chillywillyit's from a movie...03:55
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chillywillyor book...03:55
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bddebianFight Club03:55
chillywillyyay, you can use google ;)03:56
bddebianD00d, I love that movie03:56
bddebianIt's so freakin' twisted03:56
chillywillyjust messing' witcha03:56
bddebianUhm for some reason that newly reported bug is giving me the giggles.. ;-)03:57
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jsgotangco60494 ?04:00
jsgotangcobug 6049404:01
UbugtuMalone bug 60494 in epiphany-browser "Tiny throbber in epiphany browser." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6049404:01
bddebianjsgotangco: yep ;-P04:01
chillywillylol04:01
bddebianchillywilly: Carls has ruined Hardee's man04:01
chillywillyhey there's still a hardees here in WI04:01
chillywilly;)04:01
bddebianReal Hardee's or that Carls Jr Hardee's?04:02
chillywillythis is probably the only one around for miles04:02
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chillywillynothin but Hardees04:02
chillywillythick burgers baby!04:02
bddebianHas the yellow star shit now right?04:02
chillywillyyes...04:02
bddebianThat's Carls Jr homeboy04:03
chillywillyI don't wtf the difference is...04:03
chillywillywell I don't think a real hardees exists anymore04:03
chillywillyoh wait04:03
chillywillythere's one by work too04:03
bddebianExactly :-)04:03
bddebianLike no more Rax :'-(04:03
chillywillywtf is Rax?04:03
bddebianUsed to be a Roast Beef place similar to Arby's but 1000x better ;_)04:04
chillywillyhey in WI we have Culvers :)04:04
chillywillybutter burgers....uuughghghghghhhhh04:04
bddebianheh04:04
chillywillybeat that ;)04:05
chillywillythat'll kill ya for sure04:05
chillywillyI ate at an in-n-out burger when I was in LA...that was interesting....that name makes me laugh too04:06
bddebianchillywilly: There is no bigger heart-stopper than the Ultimate Bacon Cheeseburger at Jack in the Box04:08
bddebianI like in-n-out burgers but their fries make me want to vomit04:09
chillywillyI thought they just had the thin mcdonalds-like fries...04:09
chillywillyoh, I really like stake and shake but the closet one is in janesville (near Madison)04:10
chillywillythat's quite a hike04:10
bddebianSteak n Shake freakin' rocks.  We don't have them here in PA :-(04:11
bddebianOf course we have cheesesteaks though ;-)04:11
chillywillywhere did you move from?04:11
sistpotyieeeeeehhhhhhhh... huge spider in here (as in really really huge) *anxious*04:12
chillywillysquish it04:13
sistpotydamn arachnophobia...04:14
sistpotyit escaped!04:14
chillywillyat least you don't have funnel web spiders like ajmitch ;)04:15
chillywillyor do you?04:15
ajmitchNZ has few spiders04:15
zulexcept for the one in lotr04:16
ajmitchthat's a baby04:16
chillywillyajmitch: I was looking on wikipedia and it looks like you havea number of funnel web spiders04:16
chillywillyplus I was also hoping it was a good guess because you're pretty close to .au ;)04:17
chillywillydoesn't pbuilder basically setup a chroot? Just wondering because they talk about setting up a chroot in an appendix and link to it in ch. 3....seems redundant, unless I am mistaken04:24
ajmitchyes pbuilder uses chroots04:24
chillywillyin the packaging guide that is04:24
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ajmitch!packagingguide04:24
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources04:24
sistpotybddebian: just looking at cmph... why is the libtool information .la no longer needed?04:35
bddebianI thought we weren't providing those anymore?04:37
sistpotybddebian: any reason for this? (the library packaging guide says we should have them, but I'm not 100% up to date on this)04:38
FujitsuAnybody want to second bddebian's advocation of http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3104?04:42
bddebiansistpoty: Maybe we need to ask in #u-devel.  I swore I asked there but I'm kinda brain-dead :-(04:42
sistpotybddebian: ok, I'll ask... as I said, I'm not 100% up to date on this04:43
sistpotyFujitsu: looking at it04:51
FujitsuTHanks, sistpoty.04:52
sistpotyFujitsu: where can I download 9.1 of lucidlife? (the watchfile just gives me lucidlife-0.9.tar.gz)04:58
Toadstoolheya everybody04:58
Fujitsu0.9.1, you mean?04:58
FujitsuWait a sec...04:58
sistpotyFujitsu: yep04:58
sistpotyhi Toadstool04:58
Fujitsu(he published it, but didn't link it, I'll give you a URL)04:58
Toadstoolhey sistpoty04:58
Fujitsuhttp://www.icculus.org/~jcspray/LucidLife/lucidlife-0.9.1.tar.gz04:59
ajmitchyay for php04:59
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bddebianHeya Toadstool04:59
Toadstoolhi bddebian05:00
Fujitsuajmitch, it's not all that great!05:00
Toadstoolajmitch: I hate php :)05:00
ajmitchFujitsu: friday afternoon, I'm at work coding php05:00
FujitsuHahah.05:00
FujitsuToadstool, pretty much.05:00
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ajmitchToadstool: I can relate :)05:00
Toadstoolheh05:01
ToadstoolI wish there were more web apps developped in python...05:02
LaserJockchillywilly: there is a reason for that05:02
FujitsuThat'd be nice, Toadstool.05:02
LaserJockphp doesn't make sense to me05:03
LaserJockbut that could be because my only exposure to it has been trying to admin a mediawiki wiki05:03
FujitsuLaserJock, that's your only experience? Lucky.05:03
sistpotyI've programmed php far too long. That's the reason revu is not written in it :)05:04
FujitsuPython == good.05:05
FujitsuExcept that Launchpad is written in it. That's a downside to Python.05:05
ToadstoolI was looking for some kind of web gallery using python but couldn't find any.. I ended up using a python script which generates a static xml file + some xsl/css/js/whatever magic :/05:05
LaserJockFujitsu: I'm not a programmer05:05
LaserJockI can do a little Python and a little bit more Fortran05:05
LaserJockand today I mucked around a bit with C05:05
FujitsuOuch... Fortran.05:05
Toadstoolheh05:06
LaserJockFortran, the lifeblood of the sciences ;-)05:06
bddebianLaserJock: C?? W00t.  Pretty soon you'll be delving into the bowels of lisp, scheme, and brainfuck ;-P05:06
Toadstool:)05:06
LaserJockheck no05:06
LaserJockif I knew C at all I'd try to port the program I'm working on to python05:06
LaserJockas it is it is 4000+ lines of code05:07
LaserJockand I wouldn't have a prayer05:07
sistpotyFujitsu: the debian/copyright mentions only John Spray as copyright holder, whereas various files also have Suzanne Skinner as c.h.05:07
bddebiansistpoty: Maybe he is now a she? :-)05:07
FujitsuHm. That's true. Those were only put there after wrote debian/copyright.05:07
LaserJockwhat package is this?05:08
Fujitsu*after I05:08
FujitsuLaserJock, lucidlife.05:08
LaserJockI maintain a package for an app written by a John Spray05:08
LaserJockI think ...05:08
LaserJockFujitsu: did you copy my debian copyright? ;-)05:09
FujitsuEr... no.05:09
LaserJocks/debian copyright/debian/copyright/05:09
LaserJockbah, botched that05:09
LaserJockI need to learn regexp too it seems05:10
Fujitsus/debian\/copyright/debian\\/copyright/05:10
LaserJockI have a big think "Unix Shells" book on my desk05:10
LaserJockmaybe I can fake that I know shell scripting too05:10
FujitsuI'll update debian/copyright when I get home, in about an hour.05:10
sistpotyFujitsu: ok, apart from that it's nice!05:11
FujitsuThanks, sistpoty :)05:11
sistpotybddebian: count that as +1 from me and just upload once I'm fast asleep ;)05:12
bddebiansistpoty: OK :-)05:12
FujitsuMy other upload (convertall) has been sitting in NEW for almost a week now :(05:15
LaserJockthat's it? lucky ;-)05:15
LaserJockdarn, I'm in a good mood this evening05:15
LaserJockthis is bad05:15
Toadstoolheh05:15
LaserJockI'm going to start making stupid jokes05:15
FujitsuOh dear.05:16
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LaserJockyeah05:16
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Fujitsu(I get to run away from stupid jokes, AND catch my train home)05:16
LaserJockscientist humor isn't the best :/05:16
FujitsuHey, my father has a PhD in aurorae!05:16
FujitsuAnd now works at the Bureau of Meteorology.05:16
LaserJockso these 2 atoms were walking down the street ...05:17
FujitsuSo I'm used to scientist humour :P05:17
FujitsuOh dear.05:17
LaserJockand all of a sudden one looks to the other05:17
imbrandonmoins all05:17
FujitsuMorning, imbrandon.05:17
LaserJockand says "I think I lost and electron"05:17
Fujitsuimbrandon, please run away quickly.05:17
FujitsuLaserJock, how cliched :P05:17
imbrandonheh why ?05:17
Toadstoolgot to check if "aurorae" is what I think it is...05:17
LaserJockthe other one says, "Are you sure?"05:17
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Toadstooldamn non-native speakers :p05:17
FujitsuToadstool, plural of aurora...05:18
LaserJockand he says "Yeah, I'm positive!"05:18
FujitsuHahaha.05:18
bddebianHeya imbrandon05:18
imbrandonheya bddebian05:18
chillywillyoh crikey...05:18
chillywillyfor the love of pete...05:18
ToadstoolFujitsu: yeah, I knew it was something like that :)05:18
FujitsuWell, I'm off home now.05:19
FujitsuI'll be back in about an hour...05:19
Toadstoolsee you05:19
FujitsuBye!05:19
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bddebianchillywilly: problem?05:19
chillywillysilly scientist humor does that to me ya know05:19
LaserJockon a slightly related note, have any of you seen my hackergotchi on LP?05:20
LaserJockchillywilly: oh, it get's better, but I won't subject you guys to that05:20
LaserJockI'm not that cruel05:20
imbrandonLaserJock, not yet /me looks05:20
imbrandonLaserJock, /people/????05:21
LaserJockmantha05:21
LaserJockyeah, pretty dumb huh05:21
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imbrandonhahah nice05:21
LaserJockeverybody know what it is?05:22
imbrandona molicule hit by a laser ? dunno lol05:22
imbrandoncant read the labels on it05:22
LaserJockwell, if you remember your organic chemistry05:23
LaserJockthat molecule is a meta-package ;-)05:23
imbrandonhehe05:23
LaserJockthe labels are pkg05:23
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imbrandonheh05:23
LaserJockso that is a meta substituded benzene ring05:23
imbrandonthat is cool though05:23
LaserJockcbx33 came up with it05:24
LaserJockhe's going to whip up a better version as I obviously don't have any artistic abilities05:24
imbrandonhehe it look ok to me ;)05:24
imbrandonyou have it on the planet gotchi too ?05:25
LaserJockI'm not on planet05:25
ToadstoolI always sucked at chemistry anyway :p that's why I chose maths/physics and then telecom/IT...05:25
LaserJockawwww05:25
LaserJockchemistry is rough, no doubt about it05:25
bddebianToadstool: Well you could suck at everything like me :-)05:25
LaserJockonly crazy people stick with it long enough to do it for a living05:26
imbrandonbwhahah LaserJock cant get away from me now ....05:26
imbrandon[22:25]  <imbrandon> add jabber laserjock@jabber.org05:26
imbrandon[22:25]  <bitlbee> User `laserjock@jabber.org' added to your contact list as `laserjock'05:26
imbrandonlol05:26
LaserJockoh no05:26
LaserJockok, so how many of you have non-Ubuntu jabber contacts?05:27
imbrandoni have 2 non-ubuntu jabber05:27
imbrandonbut tons no-ubuntu IM05:27
imbrandoncontacts05:27
imbrandon( msn mostly )05:27
LaserJock:/05:27
LaserJockraphink was making fun of me the other day05:27
ToadstoolI have, er..., 54 non-Ubuntu jabber contacts05:27
LaserJockbecause I *only* have Ubuntu people05:28
LaserJockand no other IM05:28
Toadstool:)05:28
imbrandonheheh05:28
imbrandongoobuntutalk jabber client ;)05:28
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LaserJockbddebian: phew05:28
imbrandongoobuntalk ?? heh , well it sounded good in my head05:28
Toadstoolbddebian: you lucky guy :)05:29
LaserJockwell, I don't text message either, which some people find weird05:29
imbrandonpeople rarely IM me , unless i turn on ICQ then my whole UO guild IM's at once05:29
LaserJockI *do* have a cell phone though which I though made be very high tech05:29
imbrandonman i txt 24/705:30
LaserJockuntil I went to the Paris dev summit05:30
imbrandonheh i dont think mine will work outside the US05:30
LaserJocks/be/me/05:30
LaserJocksfflaw has one of the razor phones I think05:30
imbrandonyea mine is a razor, i want to get that chocolate one from version05:30
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imbrandonverizon05:31
LaserJockand I'm still not sure if jsgotangco's is a phone or an mp3 player05:31
Toadstoolimbrandon: depends on whether it can do GSM and uses the right frequency bands ;)05:31
LaserJockmy cell phone didn't work at all05:31
jsgotangcoLaserJock: its one of those star trek thingies05:31
imbrandonToadstool, i doubt it05:31
LaserJockI had to borrow sfflaw's when my wallet got stolen05:31
imbrandonLaserJock, chocolate from verizon is the ipod / phone mix05:32
jsgotangcoLaserJock: try searching for Razr V3x05:32
Toadstoolimbrandon: just bought a cell phone here and I am sure it will work in Europe too05:32
LaserJockjsgotangco: "beam me up Scotty"05:32
imbrandonheh05:32
LaserJockbut it's sooo expensive, I don't see how you guys can afford that stuff05:33
jsgotangcoLaserJock: but mine is more like a phone/camera/mp3 thingie05:33
jsgotangcoLaserJock: they're pretty cheap here05:33
jsgotangcoi can get a Motorola phone here for $7005:33
imbrandonToadstool, mine is a razor on the "cricket" service only avail in nashville tn , kansas city  mo, and reno nv05:33
jsgotangcothinner than most phones05:33
LaserJockI only got a cell phone because the phones were free and for $60 I get 2, one for me and one for my wife05:34
imbrandonso i'm thinking it wont work in EU , let alone most of the US05:34
Toadstoolyeah05:34
LaserJockand she still went ballistic when I told her how much it cost05:34
LaserJockbut we are cheapo grad students so...05:34
imbrandonit might WORK but i would need a new provider as i'm sure its capable but not on the service i have05:34
jsgotangcoif its gsm it should roam05:34
LaserJockmine sure sucked05:35
LaserJockI'm not sure if it was a feq. thing or what05:35
imbrandonLaserJock, hahaha i payed about 250$ for mine and the chocolate ipod mix thing is about 400$05:35
imbrandon;)05:35
LaserJockoh geeze05:35
LaserJockI splurged at Christmas and got a $120 mp3 player05:35
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LaserJockI don't know05:36
imbrandonheh i got my ipod nano for fathers day, and new ones JUST came out05:36
jsgotangcoi dont use anything apple05:36
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jsgotangcoim happy with a creative stick05:36
imbrandonLaserJock, speakin of, have you seen the new iTunes 7 ? its a MAJOR improvement05:36
LaserJockI guess if I had a "real" job ...05:36
Toadstoolok got to go... cya05:36
LaserJockimbrandon: downloaded it yesterday05:36
LaserJockcya Toadstool05:36
imbrandonl8tr Toadstool05:36
LaserJockimbrandon: meh, it plays music, just like it always has :-)05:37
imbrandonLaserJock, yea it has movies and ipod games now but what i love the most about it ( and i need to see about making a amarok plugin to do the same ) is the album art song browser thing05:37
=== LaserJock thinks that perhaps the scientific part of his brain has overtaken the fun side :/
imbrandonheh05:37
jsgotangcodoes amarok recognize an ipod?05:37
=== jsgotangco is pretty dumb on these things
imbrandonjsgotangco, yup05:38
LaserJockI have a 2GB sandisk mp3 player05:38
jsgotangcohow about those linux flashed ipods?05:38
imbrandonjsgotangco, amarok does the ipod and most mp3 players05:38
imbrandonjsgotangco, yup mine infact is linux based too05:38
imbrandonjsgotangco, infact it boots with a kubuntu logo ;)05:38
jsgotangcowell i just use a 1GB music stick05:38
LaserJockit works fine in Windows and Linux, but OS X hates it05:38
jsgotangcoi use it mostly when i do my weekly run05:38
_stefan_ok, after I'm off to bed now (I heed the warning of 24h disconnect *g*)... gn8 everyone05:39
_stefan_<- sistpoty05:39
LaserJockgood night _stefan_,  I mean sistpoty ;-)05:39
imbrandonjsgotangco, here is the ipod i use to dev/test amarok with http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/misc/kubuntu_on_ipod_nano.jpg05:39
imbrandontake a look at the screen05:39
jsgotangcolater05:39
jsgotangcoi really dont know if those HD-based players are still good for outdoor activities, like biking and running05:39
jsgotangcoand I dont think i have to run for 20hours lol05:40
jsgotangcoto match the ipod's library05:40
imbrandonwell the newer ipods all use cflash hdds05:40
imbrandonnot moving parts05:40
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LaserJockI just want something I can put pbuilder on :-)05:40
imbrandonthats a 4gig nano05:40
imbrandonhahah LaserJock there is a whole toolchain for the ipod ( arm proc )05:41
imbrandon;)05:41
imbrandoni can ssh into mine run mpd all kinda stuff ;)05:41
LaserJockdang05:41
jsgotangcoi dunno...i have a motorola Rockr E2 and it already does linux and tunes05:41
imbrandonplay doom or 007 ;) mpeg movies ( its a nanno not an ipod video )05:41
jsgotangcoso getting an ipod seems moot05:41
=== LaserJock invisions pbuilding on hi ipod while working in the lab
bddebianhah05:42
LaserJockwhile I'm in the car05:42
LaserJockeating ...05:42
=== imbrandon has a bunch of music videos on his atm
LaserJocksleeping ...05:42
LaserJockohhhh, yeah05:42
jsgotangcoso having the moto phone means im always with linux whenever i go except being in the shower or sleeping05:42
imbrandonLaserJock, heh its only a 75mhz arm proc, it would take a while to build anything usefull ;)05:42
LaserJockyeah, I probably wouldn't try wxwidget2.605:43
bddebianhehe05:43
imbrandonthe easiest way is to use a linux box to cross compile for arm and copy it to it05:43
imbrandonbut its DOABLE on there05:43
LaserJocksome PDAs have decent processors05:43
jsgotangcoimbrandon: have you seen the greephone by trolltech05:43
imbrandonyea 200 to 400 mhx range i've seen in some pda's05:43
imbrandonjsgotangco, i saw someone talking about it yesterday but i havent looked at it05:44
=== LaserJock wonders if he rig his TI-84 to run pbuilder ;-)
imbrandonhahah05:44
LaserJocks/he/he could/05:44
jsgotangcoit runs qtopia phone ed05:44
imbrandonwow nice05:44
jsgotangcokernel 2.1405:44
imbrandonip phone i'm sure , right ?05:45
jsgotangcogsm ;)05:45
imbrandonsweet05:45
jsgotangcohttp://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/phone_edition/greenphone05:45
jsgotangcothere are a number of motorola phones on linux as well05:45
imbrandonman i should blog about all the "cool" things my ipod can do with linux, most dont realize or take the time to read the outdated ipodlinux wiki05:45
imbrandonyea i knew there was some but i dident know any had qt widgets for the ui05:46
imbrandonthats nice05:46
jsgotangcono the greenphone is the first to use qtopia of course05:46
jsgotangcothe others use their own ui05:47
imbrandon;)05:47
jsgotangcobut that means existing qtopia developers can easily port to qpe05:47
jsgotangcoie., zaurus developers05:47
imbrandonpodzilla 2 actualy looks laot like the apple origianl UI but podzilla0 ( the current stable ) is ugle looks like a cli05:47
imbrandonjsgotangco, yup05:48
Laser_awayimbrandon: heah, don't be dissin' the CLI ;-)05:48
imbrandonis qyopia gpl also like the qt 4.x ?05:48
imbrandonqtopia, gah typos05:49
jsgotangcohmmm i dont remember05:49
imbrandonprobably not as the first release05:49
imbrandonbut might be, i should look later05:49
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imbrandonajmitch, are you at home or work ? ( wanted a little more lib help if you had the time )06:05
chillywillybah...06:09
chillywillyit doesn't like my changelog line...06:10
chillywillyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/a6cGej97.html, complains about line 506:13
chillywillyarsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted trailer line, at changelog line 506:13
chillywillydpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package is06:13
imbrandondid you use "dch -i -Ddapper" ?06:14
chillywillyno06:14
imbrandonthats the easiest way to make sure its not botched06:14
imbrandonerase what you did and try that06:14
chillywillyso hacking them by hand is not a good idea06:15
chillywilly;P06:15
imbrandonheh it can be done , carefully ;)06:15
chillywillyyea, but why bother when there's a nice tool :)06:15
imbrandonjust fyi, read the man for a complete list but -i is increment the version ( still needs to be manualy edited at times ) and -Dedgy or -Ddapper changes the target distro properly06:17
imbrandoni said dapper since thats what you had in the pastebin but 98% of development efferts are done on edgy atm ( and soon edgy+1 )06:18
ajmitchimbrandon: I'm at work, and working..06:22
imbrandonajmitch, no worries i'll get if figured out06:22
imbrandonif not i'll poke you some other time ( or someone )06:22
imbrandonthanks06:22
chillywillyyea, I am just playing right now06:22
chillywillyit's not like I am going to maintain gnu hello ;)06:22
imbrandonchillywilly, hehe yea , was just lettting you know so you dident use the tool 100% blind06:23
chillywillywas already rtfm :)06:23
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imbrandonwould be semi funny to have gnu hello in the repo though heh06:23
chillywillyheh06:24
bddebian:-)06:25
chillywillydo you guys usually set DEBFULLNAME or DEBEMAIL?06:26
chillywillyin your shell rc file or what not06:26
chillywillylogin profile file06:26
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bddebianchillywilly: I don't usually but I believe some do06:28
imbrandoni usably set the email06:28
imbrandonthe fullname is most of the time correct already for me06:29
imbrandonas i use the correct info in my user account06:29
chillywillyyea06:30
chillywillydo ubuntu developers keep separate changelog files or just modify the debian ones if they sync with debian?06:32
imbrandonwe use the debian ones is applicable ( if its not a native ubuntu package )06:33
bddebianchillywilly: A straight sync doesn't have any Ubuntu changelog entries :)06:33
chillywillyok06:34
imbrandonsuperm1, ping06:38
bddebianAck, I gotta get to bed.  Gnight folks06:40
imbrandongnight bddebian06:40
FujitsuI've fixed the debian/copyright issue with lucidlife (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3130), can somebody please have a look?06:46
imbrandonFujitsu, give me a few to finish up what i'm working on and i'll poke it if none get ot it first06:49
FujitsuOK, thanks!06:49
imbrandonFujitsu, wanna do me a fast favor ?06:50
FujitsuOf course :)06:50
imbrandonheh file sync requests ( and subscribe ubuntu-archive , not assign ) for myththemes and mythplugins ( not mythtv its a merge i'm doing now ) from debian-multimedia.org06:51
imbrandonyou know how to do a sync req correct ?06:51
Fujitsuimbrandon, I've done about 50 of them :P06:51
imbrandoni'll ack it when you get them done06:51
imbrandonhehe ok06:52
FujitsuProbably a few more...06:52
FujitsuOK.06:52
FujitsuShall do :)06:52
imbrandonyea debian-mm not unstable06:52
FujitsuOK... No Ubuntu changes in either of them?06:52
imbrandonnope just checked, but mythtv ther is , thats why i'm merging it, they both build fine06:52
FujitsuOK. Good :)06:52
FujitsuThere's no current Ubuntu version of myththemes, is there?06:55
imbrandonno, it will hit the NEW queue06:55
imbrandonbut thats ok06:55
FujitsuOK, so my normal sync script won't work.06:55
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imbrandonheh , i do them by hand ;)06:56
Fujitsumythplugins has Ubuntu changes.06:57
imbrandonok let me relook at that one06:57
Fujitsu3 lots of them, in fact.06:57
imbrandonit shouldent be much as its like 3 versions behind06:57
FujitsuProbably...06:58
imbrandonFujitsu, ok revu advocated, get one more and them or me can upload07:05
imbrandonso you did the mythplugins ? and i'll re-look at the themes07:05
FujitsuI did myththemes.07:05
Fujitsumythplugins has Ubuntu changes.07:05
FujitsuThanks :)07:06
crimsunum07:06
crimsunare you guys actually _testing_ these binaries?07:06
FujitsuWhich?07:07
crimsunyou do realise that fabbione uses mythtv, and if your package breaks his setup, HE WILL BEAT YOU?07:07
imbrandonthe mythtv i {did,am}07:07
imbrandoni have it installed now07:07
FujitsuHaha.07:07
crimsun(you think I'm joking, but I'm actually dead serious)07:07
imbrandoncrimsun, yea i talked with fabbione and mdz about it before i started this07:07
imbrandon( mdz was the old old old maintainer )07:08
Burgundaviaimbrandon: have you ever met fabbione?07:08
imbrandonnot irl07:08
imbrandontalked a bit on irc a few times ;)07:08
imbrandonbig boy , yes ( seen pics )07:09
FujitsuOoh...07:09
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FujitsuBug #60506 for myththemes, imbrandon.07:10
UbugtuMalone bug 60506 in Ubuntu "Please sync myththemes 0.20-0.0 from debian.multimedia.org" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6050607:10
imbrandonk07:10
Burgundaviagiven he is italian, he probably also has a cousin that can "deal with you" ;)07:11
imbrandonheheh07:11
imbrandontrue07:11
FujitsuHaha.07:12
imbrandonno but very serouisly crimsun i have them in a chroot and all seems fine07:12
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nixternalimbrandon: i got a wild hair up my *$)*#$  and i decided to try some packaging...i will link you shortly and you can tell me how bad it is?07:25
imbrandonhaha ok07:25
nixternalit is going rather easy..so i am thinking it is rather bad ;)07:25
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superm1Hey brandon, there might be a bug related to mythplugins that you just pulled in and synced.  I put a patch for it on REVU before you synced it.  Mythweb doesn't properly set permissions and create a config file07:47
imbrandoni dident sync it07:55
imbrandonthe other two are done but not the plugins07:55
imbrandoni'm still looking them over07:55
nixternalimbrandon: should i up that to revu btw?07:55
superm1Oh ok07:56
superm1I didn't realize you didn't do the plugins yet07:56
imbrandonnixternal, that url 404's , but if you want it in ubuntu yes07:56
imbrandonsuperm1, btw sync onlys dont have to go on revu07:56
superm1I just saw the main package and assumed you did all of them07:56
superm1my bad07:56
imbrandoninfact they shouldent07:56
nixternalhttp://www.buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/krename/07:56
nixternalim a moron..sorry07:56
superm1oh will the other day crimsun was saying that was the way to go about it07:56
imbrandonno JUST a sync07:56
imbrandonif there are changes required yes07:57
imbrandonthen its a merge07:57
superm1oh so if there was no changes to it then no revu necessary07:57
superm1I see07:57
superm1makes sense07:57
imbrandonsuperm1, did you merge in all the ubuntu changes ? it dident look like it07:58
imbrandoni would be happy for you to get the current ubuntu version and the debian-mm one and make sure all the ubuntu changes that were made are incorperated ( some were by upstream it looks like but not all )07:59
imbrandonand then re upload to revu ( only mythplugins the others are taken care of )07:59
imbrandonnixternal, is theis already in ubuntu and just an update or a new package?08:00
imbrandonnixternal, and yea revu would be good but you oen webspace is ok also08:00
nixternalup'd to revu already08:00
nixternaland it is an update/new08:00
superm1I'll have to look what's on the current ubuntu changes08:01
superm1I'll match them up08:01
superm1and re-upload then08:01
imbrandonupdate/new ? how can it be both silly ;)08:01
imbrandonsuperm1, yea that would be the best way08:01
superm1Ok08:01
imbrandonnixternal, is the package in ubuntu currently ( any version ) is what i was askign , if not its new, if it is its an update ;)08:02
imbrandonbut i can look08:02
nixternalit might help if i type in the right window08:02
nixternalyes08:02
nixternalsorry08:02
nixternali was typing elsewhere ;)08:02
nixternalit is an update08:02
imbrandon;)08:02
imbrandonhehe ok looking it over now ;)08:02
Fujitsunixternal, it wants to be -0ubuntu1 if it's a new version.08:04
imbrandonits wrong standards version and wrong version number so far08:05
nixternalque es eso?08:05
imbrandonwhy did you choose -1 and not -0 ?08:05
nixternali got the version #08:05
nixternalbrainfart08:05
nixternalthats an easy fix...what about the standards version?08:06
nixternalteach me jedi mastah08:06
imbrandonwhat version is in unstable ?08:06
FujitsuSet it to 3.7.2.08:06
nixternal3.0.908:06
Fujitsuimbrandon, I synced it a few days ago.08:06
imbrandonmake sure it meets the 3.7.2 standards and change the number08:06
imbrandonNow running lintian...08:06
imbrandonW: krename source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.2 (current is 3.7.2)08:06
nixternalk08:06
seaLnedoes the .1 in the standards version make any difference?08:07
crimsunpedantically, yes.08:07
imbrandonyea is .12 isnt in debian unstable then it should be -0ubuntu1 not -1ubuntu108:07
crimsunwe should be trying not to diverge too much from Debian's source packages, however.08:07
crimsunif the S-V is being bumped, we really should be sending that info upstream.08:08
seaLnei was thinking for new packages, i can see for stuff from debian not worth bothering about08:08
imbrandonyea , actualy it would be nice for the whole package to be updated in debian if only .9 is there08:08
seaLnei was just wondering in general08:08
crimsunfor Ubuntu-only packages, yes, S-V is still important08:08
nixternalimbrandon: so the 3.0.12-0ubuntu1 & standards in control set to 3.7.2 is all i needed to do?08:09
imbrandonyes ( but look over the standards and make sure nothing needs to be changed to meet 3.7.2 also )08:09
imbrandonwell all i have looked at so far, heh08:10
imbrandoni havent finished ;)08:10
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seaLneif a package build-deps on openssl do you need to mention it in the copyright?  i haven't found anything else that does08:10
imbrandonyou have a cvs dir in the admin folder too ( not totaly wrong but good not to have )08:10
seaLnewhat is daemon@poleboy.de's nick?08:11
Fujitsusistpoty.08:12
nixternalimbrandon: can i rm -rf it w/o an issue?08:13
seaLneyou'd need to repackage the tgz wouldn't you?08:14
imbrandondepends on if its in the orig.tar.gz08:14
nixternalit is08:14
nixternalbut that is an easy fix08:14
nixternaldone08:15
imbrandonit would be good to poke upstream not to include that in the tarbal then08:15
imbrandonbrb mt dew break08:15
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nixternalhttp://www.buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/krename08:21
nixternalupdated/fixed/whatever ;)08:21
imbrandonlooks like you merged with an out of date version also, the last changelog entry was 3.0.9-2ubuntu1 but 3.0.9-2.1 is in the archives08:22
nixternalhmm..i grabbed from packages08:22
imbrandonbrandon@voyager:~/files/devel/nixternal/krename-3.0.12/debian$ sudo apt-cache madison krename08:23
imbrandon   krename |  3.0.9-2.1 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/universe Packages08:23
imbrandon   krename |  3.0.9-2.1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages08:23
imbrandon   krename |  3.0.9-2.1 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/universe Sources08:23
imbrandon   krename |  3.0.9-2.1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources08:23
nixternalinteresting08:24
nixternali have 2 different versions...that is odd...should i rebuild against the 3.0.9-2.1 then?08:24
nixternal3rd times a charm ;)08:25
nixternalor 3 strikes your ass is on the bench ;)08:25
ubuntu-esAnnouncement from my owner (gcamposm): #lug-ilo Barrapunto08:25
imbrandonumm the bot talks now? we really need to find out why its here if its gonna spam us08:26
FujitsuYeah.08:26
FujitsuSomebody care to ping gcamposm and ask him what it's doing here?08:27
imbrandoni got him in a PM now08:28
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nixternalW: krename source: changelog-should-mention-nmu08:30
nixternalW: krename source: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 3.0.12-0ubuntu108:30
nixternalthat is all the messages now08:31
imbrandonthanks P3L|C4N0, it also awnsers to @commands like ubugtu thats another problem ;)08:31
nixternalbig time difference ;)08:31
imbrandonyea the nmu stuff is not a problem for ubuntu08:31
imbrandonnixternal, ^08:31
nixternalya08:31
nixternalok..i uploaded back to buntu with the latest...since i already did a dput to revu..how do i update what is up there?08:31
imbrandonremove the *.upload file and re-dput it08:32
P3L|C4N0imbrandon, add mode +q for ubuntu-es08:32
P3L|C4N0+q = quiet08:32
seaLneimbrandon: what is the purpose of removing the .upload file?08:33
crimsunsponsor queue cleared.08:33
MithrandirP3L|C4N0: why is the bot even here?08:33
imbrandonseaLne, so dput dosent care if you reupload the same version number08:33
imbrandoncrimsun, wow , you rock08:34
nixternalwhat about the .orig.tar.gz file?08:34
imbrandonno keep that08:34
nixternalwon't that get denied?08:34
imbrandonnope ( not to revu )08:34
nixternalk08:34
imbrandondepends on where your uploading but revu dont care08:34
nixternalcool..done and uploaded!08:35
imbrandonP3L|C4N0, i cant set the mode on a user ( i'm not a freenode staffer only ubuntu op )08:35
imbrandonP3L|C4N0, but why is the bot here in the first place ?08:36
imbrandonhrm or i could ....... *thinks*08:36
P3L|C4N0@part #ubuntu-motu bye, bye08:36
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imbrandonP3L|C4N0, it was only a question, if there is a valid reson we'll welcome him ( as long as he dont interfear with ubugtu )08:38
imbrandonreason*08:38
imbrandonP3L|C4N0, ok i can make him quite if you want him to join again08:39
seaLneimbrandon: ah, never had a problem without deleting .upload08:40
seaLneis -f ignoring it?08:40
imbrandonseaLne, well if its a diffrent version number then dput dosent complain08:40
imbrandonpossibly08:40
nixternalimbrandon: on the PackagedUpdates page, should I change the status of the krename in the gamin section?08:44
imbrandonnixternal, after its uploaded yes08:45
nixternaluploaded via you or revu?08:45
nixternal;)08:45
imbrandonto the main archive08:45
imbrandonvia me or someone ;)08:45
nixternalok..let me do this the way i have read about in the guide08:45
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nixternalhaha08:45
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imbrandonheh ok give me a sec to finish my email up then i'll re-look at it08:46
nixternalroger that08:46
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nixternalwell imbrandon since you didn't say anything, either it was good, or you passed out at the email inbox ;)09:36
imbrandonsilly check your notices ;)09:37
nixternalcheck yours09:37
nixternal;)09:37
imbrandoni was just looking at it09:37
nixternalit installs here and runs09:38
imbrandonlooks ok from fristr glance, test building now09:38
nixternalplus i did the test build no issues, and lintian was good09:38
imbrandonfirst*09:38
nixternalhave another mt. dew occifer09:38
imbrandondont you love it when you get "new" spam sent from 1995 and you cant figure out wth it is in your mailbox09:58
imbrandon( the new message )09:58
nixternalwth09:58
Fujitsuimbrandon, yup.09:59
imbrandonignore this ( /me being lazy ) bug 6052609:59
UbugtuMalone bug 60526 in routes "Please sync routes (universe) from unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6052609:59
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dholbachhello!10:41
\shmoins10:43
\shis anyone running Xorg from edgy in xinerama mode, ati prop. driver?10:44
\shthe X cursor on the second display is totally borked :(10:45
Hobbseehey dholbach10:45
dholbachheya Hobbsee10:45
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HobbseeFujitsu: hehe, are you on there?12:09
FujitsuNope.12:09
StevenKHah12:09
FujitsuYet my bug karma has gone up at least 300 in the past 2 months...12:09
Fujitsu*30000012:10
FujitsuAnd since they started counting on August 1, I should be on there somewhere!12:10
Hobbseeit's on crack, clearly12:10
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Bazzihey Hobbsee!12:17
FujitsuAnyone want to second http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3104?12:19
Hobbseehey Bazzi12:21
BazziI'm still desperate on what to do on eclipse :(12:21
givreHi guys, i upload a package but i can't get a password to log in. 'recover' show me no text to decrypt12:24
givredon't know what's wrong, probably my key, how do you check that you have an Elgamal secondary key ?12:26
Hobbseeimbrandon: why didnt you upload Fujitsu's package?  you were the second ack.12:26
FujitsuHobbsee, not exactly.12:28
HobbseeFujitsu: bddebian acked, then imbrandon did?12:28
FujitsuThey were different uploads (although a whole two words changed between them)12:29
Hobbseeah okay12:29
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FujitsuThanks :)12:29
imbrandonHobbsee, they were on diffrent uploads, i was the first one on that upload12:33
HobbseeFujitsu: looks good to me.12:33
FujitsuYay :)12:33
imbrandoni mean i CAN upload it but someone else should ack it12:33
Hobbseeimbrandon: right.  tarball md5sum matches upstream, etc, it builds okay?12:33
imbrandonyea it all looked good ( and we're about the 4 or 5th in line to check it too ;)12:33
Hobbseecool12:33
imbrandonso its went through many hands12:34
Hobbseeyeah, i remember seeing this before12:34
imbrandonHobbsee, if you dont have the time i can upload, i was just waiting on a second ack12:34
Hobbseei'm about to upload it12:34
imbrandonkk good nuf12:34
FujitsuThanks both of you :)12:34
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Hobbseeheh12:35
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tsengbuilds in 30 seconds here12:36
thomheh12:36
thomcan banshee do internet radio stuffs? rhythmbox is buggy as hell for me12:37
tsengthom: theres a plugin for internet radio source12:37
tsengit will be packaged up next week i think12:38
tsengneeds a new release12:38
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FujitsuThankyou :)12:38
imbrandonheh /me hands tseng dome qt4.2 libs ;)12:46
imbrandonbanshee needs a few of those12:46
imbrandon;)12:46
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Fujitsuoctplot had xlibmesa-gl-dev -> x11proto-gl-dev for Dapper... Is that still necessary for Edgy?01:56
Hobbseeyes01:56
Hobbseexlibmesa-gl-dev is a transitional package, iirc01:57
azeemthere's libgl1-mesa-dev as well01:57
Hobbseetrue01:57
FujitsuSo keep the change?01:58
Hobbseeyes01:59
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=== \sh needs some help with wine for amd64 ...anyone wants to volunteer?
StevenK\sh: I read the build log.02:02
StevenK\sh: You're on your own, kiddo. :-P02:02
\shStevenK: oh well...looks like I have to check bidi.c02:03
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seaLneis universe frozen just now for knot3 aswell?02:21
Nafalloyes02:21
seaLnek02:22
Nafallobut that's really a bug :-)02:22
Nafallothe archive admins wave universe through when they sees it.02:22
seaLnei was wondering as it dosen't affect what knot3 would be :)02:22
seaLneah02:22
seaLneanyone have time to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3135 i've sorted the last thing anyone had a problem with02:23
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blaster8hi there02:49
blaster8Is the Azureus Maintainer around?02:50
Hobbseeany revu admins around?02:50
Hobbseedont worry02:50
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bddebianHeya gang03:57
Bazzihi bddebian03:57
bddebianHello Bazzi03:58
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chantrahi, could someone tell me how to insert different copyright into a debian/copyright file pls04:36
bddebianAny text editor?04:38
chantrabddebian: lol, I meant should I say "directory xxx/ is licence under ZZZ"04:40
chantraxxx translation copyrighted by xxx@zzz ...04:40
bddebianYep04:40
chantraokie, cool04:40
chantrabddebian: do this looks correct?04:45
chantrahttp://pastebin.ca/17159004:45
bddebianIt looks good to me unfortunately the licensing/copyright stuff is really not my specialty :-(04:46
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chantra:)04:51
chantraokie, will submit it that way04:51
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phanaticgood afternoon05:14
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Adri2000who is daemon@poleboy.de ?05:15
bddebianHeya phanatic05:17
bddebianAdri2000: sistpoty iirc05:17
phanatichey bddebian05:17
Adri2000hi bddebian :)05:18
bddebianHello Adri2000 :-)05:19
Adri2000bddebian: maybe you will be able to help me, sistpoty added a comment on djplay (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3122), just one thing, what FTBFS means ?05:19
cbx33Adri2000, failed to build from source05:19
azeemfails to build from source05:19
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Adri2000ok, how can i know on which arch it fails ? because according to what i found on the djplay mailing list archives, it's a problem with x86_6405:20
Adri2000(i don't have any x86_64 and it compiles fine on my computer x86)05:21
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imbrandons/REVU Day Sept 8th//g05:25
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bddebianimbrandon: Every day ir REVU day! :-)05:25
imbrandon;)05:26
\shubuntu-archive@lists.ubuntu.com has to be subscribed for sync requests, right?05:26
bddebianYes05:26
bddebianHi \sh05:26
\shthx05:26
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\shand hi barry :)05:27
imbrandonthere we go bddebian ;)05:27
bddebianimbrandon: Beauty :-)05:27
=== \sh bought a new laptop yesterday
imbrandonnice05:27
imbrandoncoreduo ? hehehe05:28
\shhope edgy will run much better on it then on the r200...and I have to submit my testreport :(05:28
imbrandoni wonder if i should submit a test report for my old ibook05:28
\shimbrandon: yepp...1.66 Intel , 1gB ram, 100GB sata hd with 7200 rpm, ati, etc.pp05:28
\shtoshiba satellite a100 something05:29
imbrandonvery cool minus the ati ;) ( i'm a nvidia geek )05:29
imbrandon;)05:29
Adri2000so, anyone knows how can i know on which arch it FTBFS or is there a log somewhere ?05:29
imbrandonAdri2000, what ?05:29
Adri2000http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3122 see the last comment05:30
\shAdri2000: you have to believe us, some of us have amd64 at home or somewhere...and if it's ftbfsing you need to fix it, or remove 64bit archs from the build list05:30
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imbrandonyup what \sh said ;)05:31
bddebianSomeone needs to give me a PPC and amd64 machines! :-)05:31
Adri2000\sh: of course i believe you, but i'm not sure it is amd64, it's just a hypothesis05:31
imbrandonbddebian, i wouldent mind a faster ppc to compile on, but i have all 3 arches05:31
imbrandonAdri2000, then you'll have to ask whom left the comment05:32
imbrandon( and find th amd64 fix )05:32
Adri2000seems that there is no fix :(05:32
Adri2000(http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=14065231)05:32
geserAdri2000: I'm currently rebuilding it on my amd6405:32
imbrandonahh then it would be wise to remove it from building on amd64's then05:32
\shAdri2000: it's a typical x86 to x86_64 coding error05:32
Adri2000\sh: is it easy to fix ?05:33
\shAdri2000: yes...05:33
\shAdri2000: the typecast from pointer to int doesn't work on 64bit archs05:33
\shAdri2000: you need to typecast the pointer to longint (on 32 and 64bit archs), because a pointer on 64bit is 64bit and not as on 32bit only 32bit05:34
\shAdri2000: google for "porting 32bit apps to 64bit apps on linux" there is a nice document from amd05:34
Adri2000ok, so i'll try to write a patch for that05:35
\shAdri2000: http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/dwamd_AMD64_Porting_FAQ.pdf#search=%22porting%2032bit%20to%2064bit%20linux%20AMD%2205:35
\shAdri2000: yes, exchange int with longint and you are fine most of the time05:36
\shAdri2000: and file it upstream, so upstream author can fix his mistake05:37
Adri2000yup05:37
Adri2000geser: when the patch will be ready, i'll give it you to test ok? :)05:38
geserok05:39
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\shok...travelling home :) laters:)05:47
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hubhey \sh_away05:52
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Adri2000anyone skilled in C++ ?05:53
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hubme05:54
Adri2000ok, let me pastbin the code05:55
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Adri2000hub: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23526 which "int" should i change with "longint" ?06:05
Adri2000s/with/to/06:05
nixternalimbrandon: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/koverartist   <- can you check it out here? I have also up'd to revu as well..thanks... updated, old version was 0.3.2 and this is 0.4.406:06
hubAdri2000: what is the error?06:07
geserFTBFS on 64bit archs06:07
gesererror message is also available at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=1406523106:08
hubAdri2000: simply whoever wrote that didn't know what he was doing06:09
hubstoring a pointer in an int do not work06:10
hubAdri2000: it is not even a matter of having a 64-bits machine. just a matter of common sense06:12
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Adri2000sorry i lag, hub: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3122 last comment, build fails on 64bits06:23
hubAdri2000: re-read my comments here06:25
hubAdri2000: broken-by-design06:26
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hubcasting a pointer to int is WRONG06:26
Adri2000uh?06:28
thomdownright stupid if you want it to work on anything even remotely interesting06:29
Adri2000it works on x8606:30
hubAdri2000: what he said06:30
hubAdri2000: x86 has sizeof(void*) == sizeof(int)06:31
hubAdri2000: not amd6406:31
hubAdri2000: and I remember when sizeof(int) was 206:31
hub:-)06:31
hubI rewrote large chunks of AbiWord just for that06:31
hubbecause our vector class took only ints or only void* (I don't remember)06:32
huband yesterday I got a portability problem because I did cast an off_t to a 32-bit int passing by reference06:33
beligumJust packaged the ScreenKast program with the revu-pack-system and everything looks fine. I guess I should start looking for advocates?06:35
Adri2000hub: can you submit a correction on the pastebin ?06:35
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AnAntping lionelp07:09
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AnAntthis package need a second reviewer: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3086 . Anyone ?07:15
AnAntbddebian: btw, how can I remove the autoconf generated files if they are in the .orig tarball ?07:16
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azeemAnAnt: why do you want to remove them?07:19
AnAntazeem: well, because I get a lintian/linda warning about them07:19
azeemlike?07:19
AnAntW: elinks-full source: configure-generated-file-in-source config.status07:20
AnAntW: elinks-full source: configure-generated-file-in-source config.log07:20
AnAntthose 207:20
dholbachhave a nice weekend07:20
azeemdholbach: ciao07:21
AnAntdholbach: aren't you a REVU'er ?07:21
azeemAnAnt: those are not autoconf generated07:21
azeemthey are generated when the user runs configure07:21
dholbachbye azeem07:21
dholbachAnAnt: yes, i am07:21
AnAntazeem: ok, they are in the .orig tarball07:21
azeemAnAnt: talk to upstream about it07:21
AnAntdholbach: can I ask you to REVU something ?07:21
AnAntazeem: ok, thanks07:21
azeemAnAnt: it is mostly cosmetic, no need to modify the upstream tarball because of that07:22
dholbachAnAnt: I was just about to leave07:22
dholbachAnAnt: drop me a mail and I'll look at it07:22
AnAntdholbach: k07:22
AnAntazeem: huh ?07:22
dholbachbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee07:22
azeemAnAnt: hrm?07:22
AnAntazeem: I didn't understand the last statement, do you mean that it is not an important issue ?07:23
azeemyes07:23
azeemit is a warning, not an error07:23
LaserJockcya dholbach07:23
AnAntk07:23
azeemAnAnt: or rather it is less important than compromising the integrity of the upstream tarball, IMHO07:23
AnAntLaserJock: maybe I can convince you to REVU ?07:24
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AnAntLaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3086 , it needs a 2nd advocate07:25
AnAntazeem: I see07:25
azeemAnAnt: why is the binary suid?07:25
AnAntazeem: because it needs to be suid to work07:26
AnAntazeem: or else it has to be run by root, but since it is to allow any ordinary user to change his VT to arabic, hence it got to have the suid07:26
AnAntazeem: thanks for REVU'ing it btw07:27
AnAntazeem: ok, I have to go for a while, I'll be back in about 30 mins07:27
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AnAntazeem: ok, I'm back08:03
AnAntping azeem08:04
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Adri2000hub: ping08:07
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hubAdri2000: yes?08:13
Adri2000hub: sorry, still irc connection problems, do you know how to fix the amd64 problem with the code i gave you ?08:14
hubAdri2000: without rewriting08:14
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Adri2000hub: without a lot of rewriting it is not possible ?08:16
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hubno08:17
hubthey store pointer in int08:17
hubbroken by design08:17
Adri2000ok, seems that i will have to remove amd64 arch support :-/08:17
huband bug upstream08:17
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azeemAnAnt: hrm?08:32
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azeembbl08:43
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Adri2000Architecture: i386, ppc09:14
Adri2000is that ok ?09:14
Adri2000to remove just 64 bits09:14
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bddebianAdri2000: Do you know that it builds on ppc?09:25
Adri2000no, not sure since it doesn't even compile on 64 bits, so i will try to make it tested by someone before uploading to revu09:26
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hubbddebian: on ppc32 this should go through09:48
hubbddebian: but who knows09:48
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Adri2000some powerpc users here ?09:55
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hubAdri2000: my PowerBook is dead :-(10:14
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bddebianLater gang11:02
Adri2000bye bddebian11:02
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superm1Hey guys, what's the proper process for syncing from a 3rd party repo for a package that we don't have in universe yet?11:16
superm1should it go into revu?11:16
tsengyes11:16
superm1and just notate in the changelog where its synced from and such right?11:17
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tsengnot really11:17
tsengi would empty the changelog and says * Initial upload11:18
tsengit wasnt in Debian or Ubuntu11:18
superm1okay then11:18
superm1but further updates would be pulled from this repo probably.11:18
tsengif thats the case then you should work with the maintainer of this repo11:19
tsengto join ubuntu or work via a sponsor11:19
tsengif you arent interested to maintain the package you shouldnt post it to revu11:19
superm1oh I'd be glad to11:19
superm1I didn't realize I could be given that status11:19
tsengyou certainly could continue adding revisions to revu11:20
tsengand even become a MOTU yourself11:20
tsengif you want to, you can do it :)11:20
superm1okay then I'll check later on to make sure its clean in an edgy pbuilder11:20
superm1hehe oaky11:20
tsengok.11:20
superm1*okay11:20
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superm1Hey tseng, I contacted the person in charge of the third party repo.  He said that it's been pulled up to debian unstable recently.  Can we pull from there now then instead?11:58
tsengyes11:59
tsengyou want to file a sync request bug11:59
superm1okay even though we don't have a package name for it then?11:59
tseng"please sync foo x.y.z"11:59
tsengwhat do you mean we dont have a package name11:59
superm1well the source package name isn't in launchpad12:00
tsengyes12:00
superm1should I add any specific MOTU's on it ?12:01
tsengno12:01
tsengsubscribe ubuntu-archive12:01
superm1k12:02
tsenga motu will have to ACK it12:02
superm1okay thanks again, added.12:04
tsengcool12:04

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