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DEINOShelllllpppppp12:18
DEINOSim trying to instal LTSP server here and the service xdm is not instaled 12:19
DEINOScan someone help me ????12:19
stormchas3rwhats the  beef?12:19
DEINOSsorry for my bad inglish , this is not mi 1st language12:20
stormchas3rcool12:20
DEINOShow i do to instal this service ???12:20
stormchas3rxdm?12:20
stormchas3r!xdm12:20
ubotuxdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 748 kB12:20
DEINOSits my 1st time runing linux ! lol12:20
stormchas3ro12:20
stormchas3rare you installing edubuntu ltsp?12:21
DEINOSmy version is LTS 6.0612:21
DEINOSy12:21
stormchas3rubuntu or edubuntu12:21
DEINOSedubuntu12:21
DEINOSthen ???12:22
DEINOSsomeone ???12:22
DEINOShelp :P12:22
DEINOSwere can i get this pakage and how i do to instal12:23
LaserJockDEINOS: what do you need?12:24
DEINOSxdm for LTS of the distro Edubuntu 6.06 LTS12:25
DEINOSi need to instal this service12:25
DEINOSfor the lts12:25
DEINOSserver12:25
DEINOScan u help12:25
LaserJockdo you mean LTSP?12:25
DEINOSyeahhh12:25
DEINOSthe other services are runing but xdm is not instaled12:26
DEINOSwhere i can get , and how do i install this12:26
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LaserJockhmm, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be that way12:27
LaserJockbut you can install xdm by running sudo apt-get install xdm12:27
DEINOSi have downloades LTSP 4.1 , instaled all12:27
LaserJockoh12:27
LaserJockwhy did you do that?12:28
LaserJockEdubuntu has LTSP already12:28
DEINOShum so i have broken is ltsp !12:28
DEINOSaaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh12:28
LaserJockwell, I'm not exactly sure if it's broken12:28
DEINOSreinstall ?????12:28
LaserJockbut you didn't need to do that12:28
pyginow people, please remind me what channels I was on 12:29
pygiI just broke my entire configuration12:29
DEINOScan u help me to solve this problem ?12:29
LaserJockthis one :-)12:29
DEINOSthis '???12:29
LaserJockDEINOS: sorry, I was talking to pygi 12:29
DEINOSok12:30
LaserJockDEINOS: did you download .deb files?12:30
DEINOSno12:30
DEINOSan izo12:30
DEINOS100 mg12:30
LaserJocksbalneav: ping?12:30
pygiLaserJock, lol, ok, I was on a lot of channels, and I don't remember much of them12:30
sbalneavLaserJock: pong12:30
LaserJocksbalneav: DEINOS just install Edubuntu 6.06 but then installed LTSP 4.112:31
sbalneavugh12:31
DEINOSits my 1st time in linux !!!12:31
DEINOSso what i do now ???12:32
sbalneavat this point, best bet would be to rm /opt/ltsp*, then do a ltsp-build-client && ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-kernels12:32
DEINOShow do i do this12:32
sbalneavThat will put things back the way they were.12:32
sbalneavsudo rm /opt/ltsp*12:33
sbalneavsudo ltsp-build-client && ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-kernels12:33
sbalneavwhoops sorry12:33
sbalneavsudo ltsp-build-client12:33
sbalneavsudo ltsp-update-sshkeys12:34
sbalneavsudo ltsp-update-kernels12:34
DEINOSrm /opt/ltsp*12:34
DEINOSopss12:34
DEINOS--  /opt/ltsp': Is a directory12:34
sbalneavsudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp*12:34
DEINOS - root@edubuntu:/opt/ltsp-utils# sudo rm /opt/ltsp*12:34
sbalneavsudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/*12:35
DEINOSnow is working12:35
DEINOSretrieving pakages12:37
DEINOSalsa base12:37
DEINOSapt12:38
DEINOSalmost there12:38
DEINOSso how i configure this LTSP12:38
ograyou dont need to :)12:39
ograit should autodetect everything12:39
DEINOSso i must only put on the clients machine a disquete whit the rom image to boot up ????12:40
ograyou should have a PXE booting client ...12:40
DEINOSnetwork adapter rom !!12:40
ograor make a etherboot disk that emulates PXE12:40
DEINOSin the client disk , or on the server12:40
DEINOSjust this , i want to use etherbot12:41
ograhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPBootingClientsWithoutPxe12:41
DEINOStnx12:41
LaserJockhmm, well I hope edubuntu-menus gets out of NEW soon12:44
LaserJockI'd like to actually upload some fixes soon12:44
ograpoke Keybuk or KAmion12:44
ograthey were just busy with the knot i guess12:45
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DEINOSthis is suposed to take much time ???12:49
DEINOSsudo ltsp-build-client12:50
DEINOSthen ?12:50
LaserJockogra: do you know which one of them does Friday?12:53
LaserJockI guess it's close to Saturday for them12:54
LaserJockDEINOS: did you do sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys and sudo ltsp-update-kernels as sbalneav said?12:54
DEINOSno12:55
DEINOSim doing the build client12:55
LaserJockoh, ok12:55
DEINOSlater i do that12:55
DEINOSwhen have finished the first12:56
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sbalneavDEINOS: Depending on your network speed, it could take quite a while.01:00
DEINOS300 kbits01:01
DEINOSlol01:01
DEINOSpoor01:01
DEINOSwhat that command do ?01:05
LaserJockI think that builds the LTSP client chroot01:05
DEINOShum 01:05
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DEINOSat last !!!!!01:08
DEINOSim the master of the world !!!!01:09
DEINOS:P01:09
DEINOSlol01:09
DEINOS0 upgraded, 246 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:15
DEINOSNeed to get 60.9MB of archives.01:15
DEINOSlol01:15
DEINOSthis is my situation now01:15
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LaserJockogra: do i need to do anything special to upload a new version of edubuntu-menus to the NEW queue?01:28
sbalneavLaserJock: He's out for a bit.01:36
LaserJocksbalneav: that's ok, I got my answer in -devel01:37
LaserJocki've got some work to do on edubuntu-menus01:37
sbalneavk01:37
LaserJockI got a nice little "rejected" email :-)01:38
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ograLaser_away, raise the version01:53
DEINOSLaserjock i finished that commands02:00
DEINOSwhat i do now ? Can u help02:00
DEINOSanyone02:01
DEINOSi need help to configure LTSP on a Edubuntu LTS 6.0602:02
DEINOSsomeone plese help me 02:04
DEINOShey guis02:07
DEINOScan anyone help me please02:08
Burgworkwhat is your issue?02:08
DEINOSi need help to configure LTSP on a Edubuntu LTS 6.0602:08
DEINOSits my 1st time using linux02:08
DEINOScan u help02:09
DEINOSsoo ?02:10
Burgworkah, ok02:11
Burgworkyou have dived in deep02:11
Burgworkhave you read edubuntu.org/GettingStarted ?02:11
DEINOSno02:11
Burgworkread that, it will explain much02:11
DEINOSto much time , i have to proof if this system realy works , tomorow im goig to buy old computer  to do a cyber cafe02:12
DEINOSfor a client ,  i dont want to use windows 2003 server to do that02:13
Burgworkright02:13
Burgworkgetting started will walk you through the three or four steps needed02:13
DEINOScan u give me a quick explanation about LTSP ?02:14
Burgworksure, the server has a dhcp server, which gives an addy, then the PXE-booting machines ask the server for the files, they boot, people login02:16
Burgworkon the server side, the stuff the client loads in stored in a chroot02:16
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Laser_awayDEINOS: do your thin clients have PXE booting?02:29
stormchas3rHello gents, i am doing a project for college regarding open source software in education.  Is anyone available to answer a few questions that I have come up with?02:43
Burgworkstormchas3r, yep02:48
stormchas3rcan i send you the file?02:50
stormchas3rBurgwork, or can we go private chat?02:50
Burgworkyep, via email corey.burger@ubuntu.com02:50
BurgworkI am about to head home, so file is better02:50
stormchas3rkk02:50
stormchas3rty02:50
DEINOSDEINOS: do your thin clients have PXE booting?02:55
DEINOSwill have02:55
stormchas3rBurgwork, sent02:57
Burgworkcheers02:57
Laser_awayDEINOS: then I think they should just boot up02:59
Burgworkstormchas3r, answer in a bit03:02
stormchas3rBurgwork, ty03:02
DEINOShey someone tell me and text editos to use in terminal 03:18
DEINOSan text editor for terminal03:18
DEINOSplease03:18
DEINOSanione03:19
DEINOSanyone please 03:19
DEINOShhhhhheeeeeelllllllppppp03:19
DEINOShey guis tellme a text editor to use in terminal to modify a configuration 03:20
DEINOSsomeone please03:21
stormchas3r DEINOS type nano filename03:21
stormchas3rsudo nano filename03:21
DEINOStks03:21
stormchas3rya03:21
stormchas3rgl03:21
DEINOSallready su 03:22
DEINOSi try mc  but i dont have03:22
stormchas3ruse nano03:26
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stormchas3rDEINOS, ok?03:26
stormchas3rDEINOS, trust me , type:  nano filename03:27
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bddebianHeya folks03:37
knixtechwassup03:37
bddebianNada, thx. You?03:38
knixtechworking on college stuff03:40
bddebianJoy :-)03:40
knixtechhee hee03:41
knixtechbddebian, how do i get my ip addy of here and masked to ubuntu?03:45
bddebianHmm, dunno, sorry03:45
knixtechkk03:45
knixtech;)03:45
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Lilandrahi03:47
Lilandradoes a default install of edubuntu have schooltool installed?03:47
knixtechLilandra, yes03:47
Lilandrawell, if i can't find it but the binary is still there, how do i uninstall it (i mean it'snot in dpkg -l)03:47
knixtechLilandra, open up synaptic and search for schooltool03:48
Lilandrasynaptic? not apt-get?03:48
knixtechvisually you can see if its installed with synaptic03:49
Lilandrawell there's something at /usr/bin/schooltool03:49
knixtechschooltool is installed by default03:49
Lilandrabut it's not listed as installed most likely because i did a recovery on my system ages ago and things got...a bit crazy in the installed database03:49
knixtechtype locate schooltoll03:50
knixtechanything show up?03:50
Lilandralots of stuff03:50
knixtechthen its there03:50
knixtechdo you have apache installed?03:50
Lilandraso how do i uninstall it? and how do i find all the other things that were installed but not in the database?03:50
Lilandraum...03:50
Lilandramaybe not03:51
knixtechapt-get remove schooltool03:51
Lilandrasays not installed so not removed03:51
knixtechlol03:51
Lilandraah! don't worry! i'm going to reinstall freshly soon!03:52
Lilandrathis partitioning is stressful03:52
knixtechnice decision03:52
Lilandrait's a small partition on my laptop and then silly me made a / and a /home but it hink for a small partition i shouldn't :)03:52
Lilandrathat and who knows what's installed and whats' not03:52
knixtechi hear ay03:53
knixtechya*03:53
Lilandra:)03:54
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crimsunogra: pong04:53
crimsund'oh04:53
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knixtechHow do I change icon themes in edubuntu?07:06
Burgundaviaknixtech: system --> preferences --> theme07:10
knixtechty07:11
knixtechim sorry, i meant mouse themes07:12
Burgundaviahmm07:12
Burgundaviathat is a bit harder07:12
knixtechya07:12
Burgundaviasystem-->preferences-->mouse07:13
knixtechi guess i need to know where to install the theme then07:14
knixtechbut thank you for that07:14
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PapaseanHas anyone here had a play with No Machine NX yet?12:43
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Sreckoyo03:37
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EmxBAhi :)04:43
highvoltagehttp://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/knab/knab-0.4.2.tar.bz2?download204:58
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highvoltagesorry, wrong channell05:03
highvoltage(and very lagged)05:04
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sbalneavMorning all05:27
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TeePOGhi hi06:27
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TeePOGhi ogra!06:35
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knixtechhello RichEd 07:12
knixtech /msg NickServ IDENTIFY renjamin12307:15
pygi_knixtech, ugh, dont do that07:15
knixtechopps07:15
pygi_change your pass pls :)07:15
knixtechi will 07:15
knixtechi didnt see the space in there07:15
knixtechwhats the cmd to change07:16
pygi_knixtech, don't know :P07:16
knixtechkk07:16
knixtechpygi_, ok, i changed it,  hopefully that wont happen again07:24
pygi_knixtech, indeed ^_^07:24
knixtech;)07:24
knixtecho. my other nick is stormchas3r, but i registered this one07:24
pygi_o, I knew it was you somehow =)07:25
knixtechyou serious?07:25
knixtechhows that07:25
pygi_telepathy ^_^07:26
knixtechnice07:26
pygi_knixtech, sudo apt-get install telepathy :)))07:32
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pygiHedgeMage, !!!07:52
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HedgeMagehi pygi 07:55
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linus_ulrikim looking for some answers about how to  ad sound and local cd ,usb and stuf like that working09:51
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linus_ulrikthat is off course  on the client side09:53
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Solaris444Hey fellas.  A friend recommended me to show you all a piece of software my team developed.10:00
Solaris444It is a piece of educational management software.10:01
Solaris444I'll post a link and you can see what you think:10:01
knixtechnice10:01
Solaris444http://sourceforge.net/projects/equil/10:01
Solaris444Basically it is useful for managing students in laboratory sessions.10:02
Solaris444Instead of raising hands it queues them up and tracks certain stats etc.10:02
knixtechi like i like10:02
Solaris444thanks!10:02
Solaris444Comments and questions are welcome.10:03
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knixtechcbx33, do you mind looking at a piece of software my firend created for education?10:08
knixtechfriend*10:08
cbx33knixtech, hi10:08
knixtechhello10:08
cbx33is it a piece of software you wrote?10:08
knixtechmy friends team did10:08
cbx33what does it do?10:09
knixtechhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/equil/10:09
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cbx33hehe10:10
cbx33so give me abrief run down10:10
cbx33what does it do?10:10
Solaris444ah cbx, it is short for "Electronic Queueing of Users In Labs"10:10
Solaris444Basically it is a lab ticket system.10:10
cbx33oh?10:10
Solaris444Server-client architecture , written in java to ensure fair use of demonstrator time.10:11
cbx33tickets?10:11
cbx33as in support10:11
Solaris444Like instead of the users putting up their hands waiting for the dem to help them and potentially getting missed...10:11
Solaris444They click to join the queue.10:11
Solaris444Also, it was written to be as unabuseable as possible.10:11
cbx33I see.....10:11
Solaris444No spamming, no privelidge escalation, 10:12
Solaris444No DoS.10:12
cbx33Solaris444, this looks like something that would be best integrated into SCP10:12
cbx33are you aware of it?10:12
Solaris444SCP?10:12
cbx33Student Control Panel10:12
cbx33it's in ubuntu10:12
Solaris444oh! I didn't know about it.10:13
Solaris444I am not a regular users.10:13
knixtechhee hee10:13
cbx33I suggest looking at it.....it's writen in python10:13
cbx33ogra started it, but I did the developemtn work for edgy10:13
Solaris444oh.  ours is written in Java.10:13
Solaris444The server is in java too.10:13
cbx33I think, people will correct me if I'm wrong that it's too late to get it into this release 10:14
cbx33you may be able to get it into the ubuntu universe10:14
Solaris444well, that would certainly be good for the group...10:14
cbx33Solaris444, well....I suggest downloading the new knot3 version of edgy10:14
cbx33and see how it would fit in10:15
Solaris444ubuntu or edubuntu (forgive my ignorance)10:15
knixtechedu10:15
cbx33they are one in the same10:15
knixtechya10:15
cbx33edubuntu is just a meta package that installs extra components10:15
cbx33but, we have a CD where those extra packages are preinstalled10:15
Solaris444ahhhh.10:15
Solaris444I get it now.10:15
cbx33;)10:16
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cbx33I would really like to have that kind of functionality in edgy + 1 for Student Control Panel10:16
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cbx33Solaris444, we run an LTSP environment?10:17
cbx33have you come across that?10:17
Solaris444No?10:17
Solaris444What is it?10:17
cbx33if you are interested in developing for it I suggest you give it a go10:17
cbx33it's a thin client system10:17
knixtechltsp = light terminal server project10:18
Solaris444ok.  10:18
Solaris444interesting.  ok.  but what do we do about the fact that the current server and interface both require sun java?10:18
cbx33basically the client machines....which are diskless...boot from the server over the network10:18
cbx33well.....iirc java is not preinstalled on edubuntu10:18
cbx33and doing so would push our CD size over the limit10:18
Solaris444i know. :/10:18
Solaris444of course.10:19
cbx33we are VERY tight on CD space10:19
Solaris444so how can we move these functions into scp?10:19
cbx33well, do you know any python?10:19
Solaris444None of the team know python.10:19
Solaris444:-(10:19
cbx33heh10:19
cbx33have you ever used dbus?10:19
cbx33infact ...... :)10:19
Solaris444We are final year uni students.10:19
=== cbx33 had a good idea
Solaris444ok.10:19
Solaris444*listens*10:20
cbx33next release....10:20
=== cbx33 is going to write an extended plugin framework for SCP
cbx33it's possible that you could interface with that easily10:20
cbx33alot of our dev work is in python...10:20
cbx33it's a very easy language to use10:20
Solaris444interesting.  I will have to save this converstaion.  I won't remember all of this.10:21
Solaris444sorry, but where can I pick up knot 3?10:22
cbx33I'll get you a link10:22
Solaris444ok cheers.  I will have to chat to the rest of the team.10:23
=== knixtech claps his hands
Solaris444:-)10:23
Solaris444u the man knix10:23
pygihehe, with a lost password :)10:23
cbx33http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-3/10:23
cbx33is where you can find knot 310:23
cbx33http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/10:23
cbx33will get you to the daily live cds that are currently being worked on10:24
cbx33knot3 is largely stable10:24
cbx33the daily cds may not be10:24
knixtechthank you pygu10:24
knixtechpygi, 10:24
knixtechlol10:25
Solaris444thanks. I will do my best to be in touch.  Knix can chase me up.10:25
cbx33hehe10:25
cbx33np10:25
cbx33Solaris444, if it;s any help10:25
knixtechyah i will10:25
knixtechand remember how to put my pw in10:26
cbx33I have only beenusing python for 3 months or so ;)10:26
knixtechhey Solaris444 ill send you a chm book on python10:26
cbx33Solaris444, the python.org website is exceedingly useful10:27
Solaris444ok.10:27
knixtechSolaris444, sent10:27
cbx33also check out gisomount, was my first python app10:27
pygiknixtech, chm? windows??!10:27
Solaris444that would be helpful. 10:27
pygi;P10:27
knixtechpygi, nope, ubuntu has a chm viewer10:27
cbx33*bah* no windows ;)10:27
knixtechpython in a nutshell10:28
=== knixtech will be learning it soon
cbx33knixtech, where did you get that from?10:28
pygiknixtech, Byte of Python, that rules :)10:28
knixtechummmmm , off the record?10:28
cbx33knixtech, nm10:28
knixtechlol10:28
knixtechcbx33, get that?10:29
cbx33yup10:29
knixtechkk10:29
cbx33python is great10:30
knixtechso are philly cheesesteaks10:30
knixtechif  i learn python, will I be able to help?10:31
cbx33knixtech, sure you will10:32
=== knixtech shouts for joy
knixtechcbx33, he is from australia, fyi10:32
Solaris444ah you dobbed me in.10:33
Solaris444:-P10:33
knixtechlol10:33
knixtechi gotta run , take it easy guys10:43
pygiknixtech, guard your password well, young knight :)10:43
knixtechhhaa, i aciidentally put a space inthere10:44
knixtechbut thank you for the words of wisdom10:44
knixtechill be on later10:44
pygiknixtech, I'm just joking around, sorry ^_^10:45
pygibleh10:45
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