[12:18] <DEINOS> helllllpppppp
[12:19] <DEINOS> im trying to instal LTSP server here and the service xdm is not instaled 
[12:19] <DEINOS> can someone help me ????
[12:19] <stormchas3r> whats the  beef?
[12:20] <DEINOS> sorry for my bad inglish , this is not mi 1st language
[12:20] <stormchas3r> cool
[12:20] <DEINOS> how i do to instal this service ???
[12:20] <stormchas3r> xdm?
[12:20] <stormchas3r> !xdm
[12:20] <ubotu> xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 748 kB
[12:20] <DEINOS> its my 1st time runing linux ! lol
[12:20] <stormchas3r> o
[12:21] <stormchas3r> are you installing edubuntu ltsp?
[12:21] <DEINOS> my version is LTS 6.06
[12:21] <DEINOS> y
[12:21] <stormchas3r> ubuntu or edubuntu
[12:21] <DEINOS> edubuntu
[12:22] <DEINOS> then ???
[12:22] <DEINOS> someone ???
[12:22] <DEINOS> help :P
[12:23] <DEINOS> were can i get this pakage and how i do to instal
[12:24] <LaserJock> DEINOS: what do you need?
[12:25] <DEINOS> xdm for LTS of the distro Edubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:25] <DEINOS> i need to instal this service
[12:25] <DEINOS> for the lts
[12:25] <DEINOS> server
[12:25] <DEINOS> can u help
[12:25] <LaserJock> do you mean LTSP?
[12:25] <DEINOS> yeahhh
[12:26] <DEINOS> the other services are runing but xdm is not instaled
[12:26] <DEINOS> where i can get , and how do i install this
[12:27] <LaserJock> hmm, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be that way
[12:27] <LaserJock> but you can install xdm by running sudo apt-get install xdm
[12:27] <DEINOS> i have downloades LTSP 4.1 , instaled all
[12:27] <LaserJock> oh
[12:28] <LaserJock> why did you do that?
[12:28] <LaserJock> Edubuntu has LTSP already
[12:28] <DEINOS> hum so i have broken is ltsp !
[12:28] <DEINOS> aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh
[12:28] <LaserJock> well, I'm not exactly sure if it's broken
[12:28] <DEINOS> reinstall ?????
[12:28] <LaserJock> but you didn't need to do that
[12:29] <pygi> now people, please remind me what channels I was on 
[12:29] <pygi> I just broke my entire configuration
[12:29] <DEINOS> can u help me to solve this problem ?
[12:29] <LaserJock> this one :-)
[12:29] <DEINOS> this '???
[12:29] <LaserJock> DEINOS: sorry, I was talking to pygi 
[12:30] <DEINOS> ok
[12:30] <LaserJock> DEINOS: did you download .deb files?
[12:30] <DEINOS> no
[12:30] <DEINOS> an izo
[12:30] <DEINOS> 100 mg
[12:30] <LaserJock> sbalneav: ping?
[12:30] <pygi> LaserJock, lol, ok, I was on a lot of channels, and I don't remember much of them
[12:30] <sbalneav> LaserJock: pong
[12:31] <LaserJock> sbalneav: DEINOS just install Edubuntu 6.06 but then installed LTSP 4.1
[12:31] <sbalneav> ugh
[12:31] <DEINOS> its my 1st time in linux !!!
[12:32] <DEINOS> so what i do now ???
[12:32] <sbalneav> at this point, best bet would be to rm /opt/ltsp*, then do a ltsp-build-client && ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-kernels
[12:32] <DEINOS> how do i do this
[12:32] <sbalneav> That will put things back the way they were.
[12:33] <sbalneav> sudo rm /opt/ltsp*
[12:33] <sbalneav> sudo ltsp-build-client && ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-kernels
[12:33] <sbalneav> whoops sorry
[12:33] <sbalneav> sudo ltsp-build-client
[12:34] <sbalneav> sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
[12:34] <sbalneav> sudo ltsp-update-kernels
[12:34] <DEINOS> rm /opt/ltsp*
[12:34] <DEINOS> opss
[12:34] <DEINOS> --  /opt/ltsp': Is a directory
[12:34] <sbalneav> sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp*
[12:34] <DEINOS>  - root@edubuntu:/opt/ltsp-utils# sudo rm /opt/ltsp*
[12:35] <sbalneav> sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/*
[12:35] <DEINOS> now is working
[12:37] <DEINOS> retrieving pakages
[12:37] <DEINOS> alsa base
[12:38] <DEINOS> apt
[12:38] <DEINOS> almost there
[12:38] <DEINOS> so how i configure this LTSP
[12:39] <ogra> you dont need to :)
[12:39] <ogra> it should autodetect everything
[12:40] <DEINOS> so i must only put on the clients machine a disquete whit the rom image to boot up ????
[12:40] <ogra> you should have a PXE booting client ...
[12:40] <DEINOS> network adapter rom !!
[12:40] <ogra> or make a etherboot disk that emulates PXE
[12:40] <DEINOS> in the client disk , or on the server
[12:41] <DEINOS> just this , i want to use etherbot
[12:41] <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPBootingClientsWithoutPxe
[12:41] <DEINOS> tnx
[12:44] <LaserJock> hmm, well I hope edubuntu-menus gets out of NEW soon
[12:44] <LaserJock> I'd like to actually upload some fixes soon
[12:44] <ogra> poke Keybuk or KAmion
[12:45] <ogra> they were just busy with the knot i guess
[12:49] <DEINOS> this is suposed to take much time ???
[12:50] <DEINOS> sudo ltsp-build-client
[12:50] <DEINOS> then ?
[12:53] <LaserJock> ogra: do you know which one of them does Friday?
[12:54] <LaserJock> I guess it's close to Saturday for them
[12:54] <LaserJock> DEINOS: did you do sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys and sudo ltsp-update-kernels as sbalneav said?
[12:55] <DEINOS> no
[12:55] <DEINOS> im doing the build client
[12:55] <LaserJock> oh, ok
[12:55] <DEINOS> later i do that
[12:56] <DEINOS> when have finished the first
[01:00] <sbalneav> DEINOS: Depending on your network speed, it could take quite a while.
[01:01] <DEINOS> 300 kbits
[01:01] <DEINOS> lol
[01:01] <DEINOS> poor
[01:05] <DEINOS> what that command do ?
[01:05] <LaserJock> I think that builds the LTSP client chroot
[01:05] <DEINOS> hum 
[01:08] <DEINOS> at last !!!!!
[01:09] <DEINOS> im the master of the world !!!!
[01:09] <DEINOS> :P
[01:09] <DEINOS> lol
[01:15] <DEINOS> 0 upgraded, 246 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:15] <DEINOS> Need to get 60.9MB of archives.
[01:15] <DEINOS> lol
[01:15] <DEINOS> this is my situation now
[01:28] <LaserJock> ogra: do i need to do anything special to upload a new version of edubuntu-menus to the NEW queue?
[01:36] <sbalneav> LaserJock: He's out for a bit.
[01:37] <LaserJock> sbalneav: that's ok, I got my answer in -devel
[01:37] <LaserJock> i've got some work to do on edubuntu-menus
[01:37] <sbalneav> k
[01:38] <LaserJock> I got a nice little "rejected" email :-)
[01:53] <ogra> Laser_away, raise the version
[02:00] <DEINOS> Laserjock i finished that commands
[02:00] <DEINOS> what i do now ? Can u help
[02:01] <DEINOS> anyone
[02:02] <DEINOS> i need help to configure LTSP on a Edubuntu LTS 6.06
[02:04] <DEINOS> someone plese help me 
[02:07] <DEINOS> hey guis
[02:08] <DEINOS> can anyone help me please
[02:08] <Burgwork> what is your issue?
[02:08] <DEINOS> i need help to configure LTSP on a Edubuntu LTS 6.06
[02:08] <DEINOS> its my 1st time using linux
[02:09] <DEINOS> can u help
[02:10] <DEINOS> soo ?
[02:11] <Burgwork> ah, ok
[02:11] <Burgwork> you have dived in deep
[02:11] <Burgwork> have you read edubuntu.org/GettingStarted ?
[02:11] <DEINOS> no
[02:11] <Burgwork> read that, it will explain much
[02:12] <DEINOS> to much time , i have to proof if this system realy works , tomorow im goig to buy old computer  to do a cyber cafe
[02:13] <DEINOS> for a client ,  i dont want to use windows 2003 server to do that
[02:13] <Burgwork> right
[02:13] <Burgwork> getting started will walk you through the three or four steps needed
[02:14] <DEINOS> can u give me a quick explanation about LTSP ?
[02:16] <Burgwork> sure, the server has a dhcp server, which gives an addy, then the PXE-booting machines ask the server for the files, they boot, people login
[02:16] <Burgwork> on the server side, the stuff the client loads in stored in a chroot
[02:29] <Laser_away> DEINOS: do your thin clients have PXE booting?
[02:43] <stormchas3r> Hello gents, i am doing a project for college regarding open source software in education.  Is anyone available to answer a few questions that I have come up with?
[02:48] <Burgwork> stormchas3r, yep
[02:50] <stormchas3r> can i send you the file?
[02:50] <stormchas3r> Burgwork, or can we go private chat?
[02:50] <Burgwork> yep, via email corey.burger@ubuntu.com
[02:50] <Burgwork> I am about to head home, so file is better
[02:50] <stormchas3r> kk
[02:50] <stormchas3r> ty
[02:55] <DEINOS> DEINOS: do your thin clients have PXE booting?
[02:55] <DEINOS> will have
[02:57] <stormchas3r> Burgwork, sent
[02:57] <Burgwork> cheers
[02:59] <Laser_away> DEINOS: then I think they should just boot up
[03:02] <Burgwork> stormchas3r, answer in a bit
[03:02] <stormchas3r> Burgwork, ty
[03:18] <DEINOS> hey someone tell me and text editos to use in terminal 
[03:18] <DEINOS> an text editor for terminal
[03:18] <DEINOS> please
[03:19] <DEINOS> anione
[03:19] <DEINOS> anyone please 
[03:19] <DEINOS> hhhhhheeeeeelllllllppppp
[03:20] <DEINOS> hey guis tellme a text editor to use in terminal to modify a configuration 
[03:21] <DEINOS> someone please
[03:21] <stormchas3r>  DEINOS type nano filename
[03:21] <stormchas3r> sudo nano filename
[03:21] <DEINOS> tks
[03:21] <stormchas3r> ya
[03:21] <stormchas3r> gl
[03:22] <DEINOS> allready su 
[03:22] <DEINOS> i try mc  but i dont have
[03:26] <stormchas3r> use nano
[03:26] <stormchas3r> DEINOS, ok?
[03:27] <stormchas3r> DEINOS, trust me , type:  nano filename
[03:37] <bddebian> Heya folks
[03:37] <knixtech> wassup
[03:38] <bddebian> Nada, thx. You?
[03:40] <knixtech> working on college stuff
[03:40] <bddebian> Joy :-)
[03:41] <knixtech> hee hee
[03:45] <knixtech> bddebian, how do i get my ip addy of here and masked to ubuntu?
[03:45] <bddebian> Hmm, dunno, sorry
[03:45] <knixtech> kk
[03:45] <knixtech> ;)
[03:47] <Lilandra> hi
[03:47] <Lilandra> does a default install of edubuntu have schooltool installed?
[03:47] <knixtech> Lilandra, yes
[03:47] <Lilandra> well, if i can't find it but the binary is still there, how do i uninstall it (i mean it'snot in dpkg -l)
[03:48] <knixtech> Lilandra, open up synaptic and search for schooltool
[03:48] <Lilandra> synaptic? not apt-get?
[03:49] <knixtech> visually you can see if its installed with synaptic
[03:49] <Lilandra> well there's something at /usr/bin/schooltool
[03:49] <knixtech> schooltool is installed by default
[03:49] <Lilandra> but it's not listed as installed most likely because i did a recovery on my system ages ago and things got...a bit crazy in the installed database
[03:50] <knixtech> type locate schooltoll
[03:50] <knixtech> anything show up?
[03:50] <Lilandra> lots of stuff
[03:50] <knixtech> then its there
[03:50] <knixtech> do you have apache installed?
[03:50] <Lilandra> so how do i uninstall it? and how do i find all the other things that were installed but not in the database?
[03:50] <Lilandra> um...
[03:51] <Lilandra> maybe not
[03:51] <knixtech> apt-get remove schooltool
[03:51] <Lilandra> says not installed so not removed
[03:51] <knixtech> lol
[03:52] <Lilandra> ah! don't worry! i'm going to reinstall freshly soon!
[03:52] <Lilandra> this partitioning is stressful
[03:52] <knixtech> nice decision
[03:52] <Lilandra> it's a small partition on my laptop and then silly me made a / and a /home but it hink for a small partition i shouldn't :)
[03:52] <Lilandra> that and who knows what's installed and whats' not
[03:53] <knixtech> i hear ay
[03:53] <knixtech> ya*
[03:54] <Lilandra> :)
[04:53] <crimsun> ogra: pong
[04:53] <crimsun> d'oh
[07:06] <knixtech> How do I change icon themes in edubuntu?
[07:10] <Burgundavia> knixtech: system --> preferences --> theme
[07:11] <knixtech> ty
[07:12] <knixtech> im sorry, i meant mouse themes
[07:12] <Burgundavia> hmm
[07:12] <Burgundavia> that is a bit harder
[07:12] <knixtech> ya
[07:13] <Burgundavia> system-->preferences-->mouse
[07:14] <knixtech> i guess i need to know where to install the theme then
[07:14] <knixtech> but thank you for that
[12:43] <Papasean> Has anyone here had a play with No Machine NX yet?
[03:37] <Srecko> yo
[03:38] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:43] <EmxBA> hi :)
[04:58] <highvoltage> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/knab/knab-0.4.2.tar.bz2?download2
[05:03] <highvoltage> sorry, wrong channell
[05:04] <highvoltage> (and very lagged)
[05:27] <sbalneav> Morning all
[06:27] <TeePOG> hi hi
[06:35] <TeePOG> hi ogra!
[07:12] <knixtech> hello RichEd 
[07:15] <knixtech>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY renjamin123
[07:15] <pygi_> knixtech, ugh, dont do that
[07:15] <knixtech> opps
[07:15] <pygi_> change your pass pls :)
[07:15] <knixtech> i will 
[07:15] <knixtech> i didnt see the space in there
[07:16] <knixtech> whats the cmd to change
[07:16] <pygi_> knixtech, don't know :P
[07:16] <knixtech> kk
[07:24] <knixtech> pygi_, ok, i changed it,  hopefully that wont happen again
[07:24] <pygi_> knixtech, indeed ^_^
[07:24] <knixtech> ;)
[07:24] <knixtech> o. my other nick is stormchas3r, but i registered this one
[07:25] <pygi_> o, I knew it was you somehow =)
[07:25] <knixtech> you serious?
[07:25] <knixtech> hows that
[07:26] <pygi_> telepathy ^_^
[07:26] <knixtech> nice
[07:32] <pygi_> knixtech, sudo apt-get install telepathy :)))
[07:52] <pygi> HedgeMage, !!!
[07:55] <HedgeMage> hi pygi 
[09:51] <linus_ulrik> im looking for some answers about how to  ad sound and local cd ,usb and stuf like that working
[09:53] <linus_ulrik> that is off course  on the client side
[10:00] <Solaris444> Hey fellas.  A friend recommended me to show you all a piece of software my team developed.
[10:01] <Solaris444> It is a piece of educational management software.
[10:01] <Solaris444> I'll post a link and you can see what you think:
[10:01] <knixtech> nice
[10:01] <Solaris444> http://sourceforge.net/projects/equil/
[10:02] <Solaris444> Basically it is useful for managing students in laboratory sessions.
[10:02] <Solaris444> Instead of raising hands it queues them up and tracks certain stats etc.
[10:02] <knixtech> i like i like
[10:02] <Solaris444> thanks!
[10:03] <Solaris444> Comments and questions are welcome.
[10:08] <knixtech> cbx33, do you mind looking at a piece of software my firend created for education?
[10:08] <knixtech> friend*
[10:08] <cbx33> knixtech, hi
[10:08] <knixtech> hello
[10:08] <cbx33> is it a piece of software you wrote?
[10:08] <knixtech> my friends team did
[10:09] <cbx33> what does it do?
[10:09] <knixtech> http://sourceforge.net/projects/equil/
[10:10] <cbx33> hehe
[10:10] <cbx33> so give me abrief run down
[10:10] <cbx33> what does it do?
[10:10] <Solaris444> ah cbx, it is short for "Electronic Queueing of Users In Labs"
[10:10] <Solaris444> Basically it is a lab ticket system.
[10:10] <cbx33> oh?
[10:11] <Solaris444> Server-client architecture , written in java to ensure fair use of demonstrator time.
[10:11] <cbx33> tickets?
[10:11] <cbx33> as in support
[10:11] <Solaris444> Like instead of the users putting up their hands waiting for the dem to help them and potentially getting missed...
[10:11] <Solaris444> They click to join the queue.
[10:11] <Solaris444> Also, it was written to be as unabuseable as possible.
[10:11] <cbx33> I see.....
[10:12] <Solaris444> No spamming, no privelidge escalation, 
[10:12] <Solaris444> No DoS.
[10:12] <cbx33> Solaris444, this looks like something that would be best integrated into SCP
[10:12] <cbx33> are you aware of it?
[10:12] <Solaris444> SCP?
[10:12] <cbx33> Student Control Panel
[10:12] <cbx33> it's in ubuntu
[10:13] <Solaris444> oh! I didn't know about it.
[10:13] <Solaris444> I am not a regular users.
[10:13] <knixtech> hee hee
[10:13] <cbx33> I suggest looking at it.....it's writen in python
[10:13] <cbx33> ogra started it, but I did the developemtn work for edgy
[10:13] <Solaris444> oh.  ours is written in Java.
[10:13] <Solaris444> The server is in java too.
[10:14] <cbx33> I think, people will correct me if I'm wrong that it's too late to get it into this release 
[10:14] <cbx33> you may be able to get it into the ubuntu universe
[10:14] <Solaris444> well, that would certainly be good for the group...
[10:14] <cbx33> Solaris444, well....I suggest downloading the new knot3 version of edgy
[10:15] <cbx33> and see how it would fit in
[10:15] <Solaris444> ubuntu or edubuntu (forgive my ignorance)
[10:15] <knixtech> edu
[10:15] <cbx33> they are one in the same
[10:15] <knixtech> ya
[10:15] <cbx33> edubuntu is just a meta package that installs extra components
[10:15] <cbx33> but, we have a CD where those extra packages are preinstalled
[10:15] <Solaris444> ahhhh.
[10:15] <Solaris444> I get it now.
[10:16] <cbx33> ;)
[10:16] <cbx33> I would really like to have that kind of functionality in edgy + 1 for Student Control Panel
[10:17] <cbx33> Solaris444, we run an LTSP environment?
[10:17] <cbx33> have you come across that?
[10:17] <Solaris444> No?
[10:17] <Solaris444> What is it?
[10:17] <cbx33> if you are interested in developing for it I suggest you give it a go
[10:17] <cbx33> it's a thin client system
[10:18] <knixtech> ltsp = light terminal server project
[10:18] <Solaris444> ok.  
[10:18] <Solaris444> interesting.  ok.  but what do we do about the fact that the current server and interface both require sun java?
[10:18] <cbx33> basically the client machines....which are diskless...boot from the server over the network
[10:18] <cbx33> well.....iirc java is not preinstalled on edubuntu
[10:18] <cbx33> and doing so would push our CD size over the limit
[10:18] <Solaris444> i know. :/
[10:19] <Solaris444> of course.
[10:19] <cbx33> we are VERY tight on CD space
[10:19] <Solaris444> so how can we move these functions into scp?
[10:19] <cbx33> well, do you know any python?
[10:19] <Solaris444> None of the team know python.
[10:19] <Solaris444> :-(
[10:19] <cbx33> heh
[10:19] <cbx33> have you ever used dbus?
[10:19] <cbx33> infact ...... :)
[10:19] <Solaris444> We are final year uni students.
[10:19] <Solaris444> ok.
[10:20] <Solaris444> *listens*
[10:20] <cbx33> next release....
[10:20] <cbx33> it's possible that you could interface with that easily
[10:20] <cbx33> alot of our dev work is in python...
[10:20] <cbx33> it's a very easy language to use
[10:21] <Solaris444> interesting.  I will have to save this converstaion.  I won't remember all of this.
[10:22] <Solaris444> sorry, but where can I pick up knot 3?
[10:22] <cbx33> I'll get you a link
[10:23] <Solaris444> ok cheers.  I will have to chat to the rest of the team.
[10:23] <Solaris444> :-)
[10:23] <Solaris444> u the man knix
[10:23] <pygi> hehe, with a lost password :)
[10:23] <cbx33> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-3/
[10:23] <cbx33> is where you can find knot 3
[10:23] <cbx33> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/
[10:24] <cbx33> will get you to the daily live cds that are currently being worked on
[10:24] <cbx33> knot3 is largely stable
[10:24] <cbx33> the daily cds may not be
[10:24] <knixtech> thank you pygu
[10:24] <knixtech> pygi, 
[10:25] <knixtech> lol
[10:25] <Solaris444> thanks. I will do my best to be in touch.  Knix can chase me up.
[10:25] <cbx33> hehe
[10:25] <cbx33> np
[10:25] <cbx33> Solaris444, if it;s any help
[10:25] <knixtech> yah i will
[10:26] <knixtech> and remember how to put my pw in
[10:26] <cbx33> I have only beenusing python for 3 months or so ;)
[10:26] <knixtech> hey Solaris444 ill send you a chm book on python
[10:27] <cbx33> Solaris444, the python.org website is exceedingly useful
[10:27] <Solaris444> ok.
[10:27] <knixtech> Solaris444, sent
[10:27] <cbx33> also check out gisomount, was my first python app
[10:27] <pygi> knixtech, chm? windows??!
[10:27] <Solaris444> that would be helpful. 
[10:27] <pygi> ;P
[10:27] <knixtech> pygi, nope, ubuntu has a chm viewer
[10:27] <cbx33> *bah* no windows ;)
[10:28] <knixtech> python in a nutshell
[10:28] <cbx33> knixtech, where did you get that from?
[10:28] <pygi> knixtech, Byte of Python, that rules :)
[10:28] <knixtech> ummmmm , off the record?
[10:28] <cbx33> knixtech, nm
[10:28] <knixtech> lol
[10:29] <knixtech> cbx33, get that?
[10:29] <cbx33> yup
[10:29] <knixtech> kk
[10:30] <cbx33> python is great
[10:30] <knixtech> so are philly cheesesteaks
[10:31] <knixtech> if  i learn python, will I be able to help?
[10:32] <cbx33> knixtech, sure you will
[10:32] <knixtech> cbx33, he is from australia, fyi
[10:33] <Solaris444> ah you dobbed me in.
[10:33] <Solaris444> :-P
[10:33] <knixtech> lol
[10:43] <knixtech> i gotta run , take it easy guys
[10:43] <pygi> knixtech, guard your password well, young knight :)
[10:44] <knixtech> hhaa, i aciidentally put a space inthere
[10:44] <knixtech> but thank you for the words of wisdom
[10:44] <knixtech> ill be on later
[10:45] <pygi> knixtech, I'm just joking around, sorry ^_^
[10:45] <pygi> bleh