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| kwwii_ | anyone wanna test the new kdm theme? | 12:16 |
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| Lure | kwwii_: sure | 12:18 |
| kwwii_ | no package, mind you...just files to put in the /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes dir (so make a backup if you want) | 12:19 |
| Lure | kwwii_: no problem - I go on vacation anyway, so breakage is fine with me ;-) | 12:19 |
| kwwii_ | http://bootsplash.org/kdm.new.tar.gz | 12:19 |
| kwwii_ | lol | 12:19 |
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| kwwii_ | Lure: how big is your display? I have not tested it at different resolutions yet, so tell me if all the stuff fits in the box ;-) | 12:22 |
| Lure | kwwii_: 1920x1200 (15.4" wide LCD) | 12:23 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 12:23 |
| kwwii_ | perfect test then, it doesn't get much bigger than that :-) | 12:23 |
| === Lure rebooting (to get other updates too) | ||
| kwwii_ | c u | 12:23 |
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| Lure | kwwii_: kdm login screen looks great - much better than old one (even though I liked that one too)! | 12:28 |
| Lure | kwwii_: maybe that left icon is not that obvious, but otherwise ok | 12:28 |
| kwwii_ | I had quiute a time trying to figure out what icon to use | 12:29 |
| Lure | kwwii_: it is not easy, as many things are there... | 12:30 |
| kwwii_ | exactly | 12:30 |
| kwwii_ | perhaps just a simple menu would be enough | 12:30 |
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| === Lure -> bed - see you in a week | ||
| buzzen | why was the new power manager made in favour of something like "kpowersave" ? | 12:45 |
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| kwwii_ | Lure: have a nice vacation | 12:45 |
| buzzen | and if a user prefers "kpowersave" how is the new manager disabled ? | 12:45 |
| Riddell | bye Lure | 12:45 |
| Lure | buzzen: because it was too hard to change powersave to use ubuntu laptop support | 12:45 |
| buzzen | Lure: ubuntu laptop support | 12:46 |
| buzzen | ? | 12:46 |
| Lure | kwwii_: I hope so, but weather forecast says it will be some rough regatta sailing next week ;-) | 12:46 |
| Lure | buzzen: acpi-support, hotkey-support and all the polish for different models | 12:47 |
| kwwii_ | sailing, now that sounds like fun | 12:47 |
| Lure | buzzen: powersave is being change in the direction to do less on its own and do more with HAL, but it will take time to refactor | 12:47 |
| buzzen | im sure my kpowersave commmunicates with acpid | 12:47 |
| buzzen | ok | 12:48 |
| buzzen | maybe in 2010 ati will decide to release a driver which supports suspend/resume. | 12:48 |
| Lure | buzzen: kpowersave communicates with powersave and powersave with acpid, but issue is more in suspend/hibernate hacks that are differenr | 12:48 |
| buzzen | kpowersave supports suspend and suspend2 | 12:49 |
| Lure | buzzen: I like so stuff a lot in powersave - for example the fact that it is a daemon which also takes care that power is managed if user is not logged in | 12:49 |
| buzzen | swsuspend | 12:49 |
| Lure | and also idle time handling | 12:49 |
| buzzen | Lure: yes. i like that about powersave too | 12:49 |
| Lure | buzzen: fglrx works nice with my FireGL card | 12:49 |
| buzzen | Lure: you can suspend ? wow you are very very lucky | 12:50 |
| buzzen | most people can't :) | 12:50 |
| Lure | buzzen: yes, I can suspend to RAM or to disk and resume properly | 12:50 |
| buzzen | i have got suspend to disk working. but i have 1gb ram and laptophd. its not worth it.. | 12:50 |
| buzzen | suspend to ram works if use opensource driver. | 12:50 |
| Lure | buzzen: did you try with powermanager/ubuntu or just powersave? | 12:51 |
| Lure | buzzen: interesting - what card exactly do you have? | 12:51 |
| buzzen | lure: powersave/swsuspend2 | 12:51 |
| buzzen | but fglrx is broken right now on edgy.. or it was when i tried last | 12:51 |
| buzzen | Lure: ati X700 mobile | 12:51 |
| Lure | buzzen: it works for me out-of-the-box | 12:51 |
| Lure | buzzen: this is also what my FireGL V5000 in HP nw8240 reports | 12:52 |
| buzzen | my friend has ati gfx too. an older radeon and he has same problems as me | 12:52 |
| buzzen | different laptop | 12:52 |
| kwwii_ | ok, I updated http://bootsplash.org/kdm.new.tar.gz ...in case anyone is interested | 12:52 |
| buzzen | and reading rage3d forums, many others do.. probably more than don't have problems | 12:53 |
| buzzen | kwwii_: you took away my beautiful purple/brown.. and gave me bathroom colours.. I need my backdrop back again! can you not package a few up with edgy ? | 12:54 |
| buzzen | :) | 12:54 |
| Lure | anyway -> time for bed (really this time ;-)) | 12:54 |
| buzzen | kwwii_: thats a bzip file kwii. you testing us ? | 12:55 |
| kwwii_ | haha, and the first one was a gz | 12:55 |
| kwwii_ | oops, I screwed up and typed j for z | 12:55 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 12:56 |
| kwwii_ | I have done that twice in the last few months | 12:56 |
| buzzen | kwii. looks good/clean.. i guess it will please. but i still like the more unusual one for knot 2 | 12:56 |
| buzzen | you have to please the masses. so it's a hard job you have | 12:56 |
| kwwii_ | no doubt about that | 12:56 |
| buzzen | but nice anyway. | 12:57 |
| buzzen | kwwii_: did anyone report problem with right hand side of screen when "loading up" kde ? | 12:57 |
| buzzen | kwwii_: i need to test with latest artwork. but i had a problem on my widescreen lcd with corruption before | 12:57 |
| kwwii_ | ouch, nope | 12:59 |
| kwwii_ | it is probably the bug in the ksplash bg | 12:59 |
| kwwii_ | ksplash seems to have problems with certain bg sizes atm | 12:59 |
| buzzen | it also happened during dapper development. but it was fixed for release.. | 01:00 |
| kwwii_ | I am sure we will figure it out before release this time too then :-) | 01:02 |
| ryanakca | kwwii_: feel like reviewing an iconset (sorry if I've already asked you this, I don't remember...)? | 01:04 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: ping | 01:04 |
| kwwii_ | ryanakca: which one? | 01:05 |
| ryanakca | crystal-diamon iirc | 01:05 |
| ryanakca | yes, crystal-diamond | 01:05 |
| ryanakca | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3098 | 01:05 |
| ryanakca | kwwii_: it's based on that iconset that's been taken off kde-look, once again, and the crystal iconset | 01:06 |
| ryanakca | and some others... check the copyright file... | 01:06 |
| kwwii_ | how does one build it, or install it? | 01:06 |
| ryanakca | pbuilder build kde-icons-crystal-diamond_2.0-0ubuntu1.dsc | 01:07 |
| ryanakca | then dpkg -i the result | 01:07 |
| kwwii_ | I do not have pbuilder installed | 01:09 |
| kwwii_ | ahhhh, those are the linspire icons | 01:10 |
| kwwii_ | not too sure if we would pick them as default when kde decided against it | 01:10 |
| kwwii_ | especially this late into the cycle, when we will be changing for kde4 anyway | 01:11 |
| kwwii_ | ...and I hate those toolbar icons | 01:11 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 01:11 |
| ryanakca | back, sorry, phone :) | 01:13 |
| ryanakca | sudo aptitude install pbuilder ? | 01:13 |
| ryanakca | why did kde decide against the linspire ones? | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | hate em? why? | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | toolbar ones being ... | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | like down on next to the taskbar on the left? | 01:16 |
| kwwii_ | well, I do not like the way they lay | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | kwwii_: and I'm not even talking about having them as default... just stick them into universe so that if they want them, they have them | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | ? | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | meaning (sorry, I never really was anygood in art... at least in the theory and manual parts... ) | 01:18 |
| kwwii_ | ryanakca: not sure if a package can be added anymore ... RIddell would know more. Generally, I think we really only need one Crystal styled set but I guess there is nothiing against having an installable package available | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | they can untill the 28th of september | 01:19 |
| ryanakca | we already have two of them, but kk, I'll bug him | 01:19 |
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| ryanakca | but first I need to finish touching up my course for classroom tommorow | 01:20 |
| kwwii_ | about time for bed here | 01:22 |
| ryanakca | See yah :) | 01:24 |
| kwwii_ | night | 01:27 |
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| nixternal | someone feel like directing me a little with a packaging/building issue | 01:36 |
| nixternal | say i create a package...everything goes good, lintian goes good, test build goes good...but i try to dpkg -i file.deb...and i get the dreaded... | 01:36 |
| nixternal | packaged depends on soandso | 01:37 |
| nixternal | soandso not installed | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | nixternal: how is that a problem? | 01:38 |
| nixternal | is that OK that it happens? | 01:38 |
| nixternal | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of schafkopf: | 01:39 |
| nixternal | schafkopf depends on libkdegames1 (>= 4:3.5.2); however: | 01:39 |
| nixternal | Package libkdegames1 is not installed. | 01:39 |
| nixternal | dpkg: error processing schafkopf (--install): | 01:39 |
| nixternal | to be exact...there it is | 01:39 |
| ajmitch | nixternal: well dpkg doesn't do dependency resolution to grab other packages, which is intentional | 01:44 |
| nixternal | cool | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | you can just do apt-get -f install afterwards | 01:45 |
| nixternal | i up'd to revu..thank you for clarifying that in this stage ;) | 01:45 |
| nixternal | ya. the -f install works, and i can play the game ;) | 01:45 |
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| Dace | err... isn't there something strange in this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23568? why does qt4-designer depend on libqt4-dev? :/ | 02:06 |
| Dace | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23568 | 02:06 |
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| DaSkreech | Great. Can anything open a docx file? | 03:36 |
| bddebian | Heya folks | 03:37 |
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| ryanakca | hey bddebian | 03:44 |
| bddebian | Heya ryanakca | 03:44 |
| DaSkreech | hi bddebian | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Hello DaSkreech | 04:05 |
| === DaSkreech waves | ||
| freeflying | hi bddebian ryanakca DaSkreech | 04:05 |
| DaSkreech | Hey freeflying | 04:05 |
| ryanakca | hey freeflying | 04:05 |
| bddebian | Hi freeflying | 04:05 |
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| ryanakca | G'night freeflying | 04:08 |
| freeflying | ryanakca: nite :) | 04:08 |
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| ryanakca | DaSkreech: I believe it's under 'Format...' in the conversation window... | 04:09 |
| DaSkreech | Or not :) | 04:10 |
| ryanakca | DaSkreech: like 'Bold' 'Italic', 'Font...' 'Font size', etc? | 04:11 |
| DaSkreech | Oh I meant how to disable it | 04:11 |
| DaSkreech | Apparently Spellchecking doesn't work with Rich text | 04:11 |
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| ryanakca | Main Window -> Settings -> Configure -> Appearance -> Colors & Fonts -> Formatting Overrides -> Do not show user specified rich text | 04:13 |
| ryanakca | anywais, I'm off to bed for real now :) | 04:15 |
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| imbrandon | moins all | 09:08 |
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| seaLne | great bug reports quoting kurt about cups | 09:31 |
| seaLne | lo imbrandon | 09:31 |
| === seaLne wonders how to write man pages for programs he has no idea what they do | ||
| imbrandon | hahaha | 09:33 |
| seaLne | no information on upstream website or in the code | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | nice | 09:34 |
| seaLne | ah handy the program that wants the library has a tutorial about it :) | 09:35 |
| imbrandon | oh wow /me has to brush up on his bash scritpting | 09:36 |
| seaLne | don't you mean POSIX compliant scripting so it will work with dash? :) | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | you must have been reading that thread on | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | -devel ;) | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | but i think e.g EDGY="cat /etc/issue |grep 6.10" and DAPPER="cat /etc/issue |grep 6.06" | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | is pretty POSIX ;) | 09:39 |
| seaLne | `cat ... ` | 09:42 |
| seaLne | ? | 09:42 |
| seaLne | and wouldn't that just be grep 6.10 /etc/issue :) | 09:43 |
| seaLne | not that i can talk i've done cat foo |less often enough :) | 09:44 |
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| imbrandon | hehe | 09:47 |
| imbrandon | yea grep would work too, just old habbit | 09:47 |
| seaLne | cat id probably the most overused command :) | 09:48 |
| seaLne | is | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | lsb_release -r would work too | 09:48 |
| seaLne | have a look at /etc/lsb-release | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | for that matter | 09:48 |
| seaLne | ah yeah | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:49 |
| seaLne | so what does it mean (status wise) if a package is listed in lp but has no current release? | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | hrm good question | 09:52 |
| seaLne | its what seems to happen to new packages for $UNKNOWN_PERIOD_OF_TIME | 09:53 |
| seaLne | it would be nice if it gave you a bit more info such as "this package is waiting to be approved for inclusion" or whatever state it is actually in | 09:55 |
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| imbrandon | seaLne, ping | 10:48 |
| seaLne | pong | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | heh this dont look tooo crackfull does it | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | ISEDGY=`lsb_release -r | grep 6.10` | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | ISDAPPER=`lsb_release -r | grep 6.06` | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | if [ "$ISDAPPER" ] ; then | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | RELEASE=dapper | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | elif [ "$ISEDGY" ] ; then | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | RELEASE=edgy | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | fi | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | ( messing with the amarok install mp3 script to make it support edgy , it defaults to dapper only as is | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | ) | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | i'll have to make it dep on lsb-release that way , but shouldent be a problem as its installed by ubuntu-minimal | 10:49 |
| fdoving | imbrandon: 'lsb_release -c' | 10:49 |
| fdoving | maybe? | 10:49 |
| fdoving | or -sc | 10:49 |
| fdoving | ISEDGY=`lsb_release -sc` | 10:50 |
| imbrandon | ahh yea -sc would work much better | 10:50 |
| seaLne | yeah that might be easier :) | 10:50 |
| imbrandon | very true , /me changes now, good catch | 10:50 |
| fdoving | RELEASE=`lsb_release -sc' | 10:51 |
| fdoving | that's it. | 10:51 |
| imbrandon | RELEASE=`lsb_release -sc` | 10:51 |
| imbrandon | yup | 10:51 |
| fdoving | :) | 10:51 |
| imbrandon | makes it nice and simple | 10:51 |
| imbrandon | since i have to now dep on lsb-release anyhow ;) | 10:51 |
| imbrandon | but like i said shouldent be a problem as its in ubuntu-minimal | 10:52 |
| imbrandon | just a pre-caution | 10:52 |
| fdoving | you could read /etc/lsb-release directly, if you don't want the extra depend. | 10:53 |
| imbrandon | yea then i would have to grep it and go back to the other way | 10:53 |
| fdoving | you can simply source it. | 10:53 |
| fdoving | and use the DISTRIB_CODENAME=edgy set there. | 10:53 |
| fdoving | if you want RELEASE=$DISTRIB_CODENAME | 10:54 |
| fdoving | you can have that too. | 10:54 |
| imbrandon | but if lsb-release isnt installed /etc/lsb-release isnt there anyhow | 10:54 |
| fdoving | it is. | 10:54 |
| fdoving | it's provided by base-files. | 10:54 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 10:54 |
| imbrandon | so is lsb-release ;) | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | ubuntu-minimal | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | so reallly unless someone removeed it ( and 3/4 of the desktop ) it should be ok | 10:55 |
| fdoving | :) | 10:55 |
| fdoving | i don't know what's the cleanest way. you decide :) | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | RELEASE=`lsb_release -sc` | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | seems senseable | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | if its a problem we can always change it later but i think it should be fine | 10:56 |
| fdoving | it's fine :) | 10:57 |
| imbrandon | it all started with bug 60637 | 10:58 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60637 in amarok "[edgy] Amarok enabling Dapper-multiverse when downloading codecs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60637 | 10:58 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 10:58 |
| imbrandon | but uploaded now | 10:58 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 10:58 |
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| fdoving | nice one :) | 11:00 |
| fdoving | it's automagic now? the codec install, nice. | 11:00 |
| fdoving | i've converted to mpd+kmp | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | yea Riddell originaly made the install-mp3 script if mp3 support isnt installed when you try to play one in amarok | 11:01 |
| imbrandon | we've all now touched it a bit | 11:01 |
| imbrandon | making it better ;) | 11:01 |
| imbrandon | saves about 50hours a week of support requests ;) | 11:02 |
| fdoving | indeed. | 11:04 |
| fdoving | that's great :) | 11:04 |
| fdoving | any news on the network manager breakage? i just tested to day, and my knetworkmanager still doesn't work | 11:04 |
| imbrandon | tbh no idea, i dont use network manager at all | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | hobbsee might know | 11:05 |
| fdoving | ok. i've converted to wpa_supplicant and good old ifupdown. | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | woohoo kde updates for kde4 libs ( Riddell must be silently working ) | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | WOW i got my firefox icon back by default /me hugs iwj | 11:10 |
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| fdoving | i need a huge powerpc based server for compiling. | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | i have a poor little ibook i compile for ppc on sometimes ;) | 11:36 |
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| fdoving | me too. | 11:39 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I confirm your patches to select action works | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | heya Tonio_ | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: except that "open" leads to /media/cdrom0 that is empty :) | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | hey imbrandon | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: appart from that little issue, that's perfect ;) | 12:03 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell, poke | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | hey cool. a debian maintainer sent me an email just to say "hey, please resync this package" | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea i got 2 maintainers that do that | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | pox and someone else | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | its quite nice | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | infact pox has gotten to the point he files the sync request ( correctly ) then pings me in email | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | to ack it | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | heh | 12:34 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: oh strike. seen bug 60637? | 12:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60637 in amarok "[edgy] Amarok enabling Dapper-multiverse when downloading codecs" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60637 | 12:35 |
| Hobbsee | ah, you've fixed it | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:35 |
| === Hobbsee keeps sorting thru the email backlog | ||
| imbrandon | yup yup did that a few hours ago | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | down to 39 amarok bugs now, working through them one by one today | 12:36 |
| imbrandon | iwj updated firefox too last night, dosent crash anymore , yay \o/ | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | woo | 12:39 |
| === Hobbsee wonders how stable it is | ||
| imbrandon | very, been using it all night | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | not one crash yet, normaly i have about 50 by now | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | looks better too, AND has the true ff icon this time | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | not that blue world thing | 12:40 |
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| Hobbsee | lol | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | er, maybe i'll rephrase. i wonder how stable it is, compared to the mozilla binaries | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | which seem to be very stable anyway | 12:43 |
| abattoir | Riddell: the oem-installer doesnt seem to work in the 20060913.1 build | 12:44 |
| abattoir | Riddell: http://muse.19inch.net/~abattoir/shots/error.png | 12:44 |
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| Tonio_ | re | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: ping ? | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | just found a little bug in konq | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: it doesn't remember the window size and position... | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: just put it fullscreen, close it and reopen | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: can you confirm ? | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | if yes I'll report | 01:15 |
| imbrandon | k hold on | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: confirming | 01:16 |
| imbrandon | yup confirmed | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: that's very annoying.... | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | I'm reporting and will work on that on monday | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: indeed. | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | my girlfriend doesn't want to use it because of that, so she uses firefox...... | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | I WANT her to use konq hehe :) | 01:18 |
| Tonio_ | newbies feedback is very usefull sometimes | 01:18 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:18 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: hi, that media_realfolder.desktop file is still in the konq-plugin package BTW. | 01:20 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hu ???????? | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: okay I have to move, will work on that today | 01:21 |
| _Sime_ | I've got version 0ubuntu4 installed. it is still there. :-( | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I removed it from the .install file | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | it shouldn't be there..... | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: let me check the binary package | 01:23 |
| imbrandon | well it would still be on an old install | 01:23 |
| imbrandon | as it wouldent remove the old one | 01:24 |
| _Sime_ | /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_realfolder.desktop | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hum....... yes I can see it but the debian source package shouldn't install it | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I have to check the binary content | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hum, I removed the line but I suspect a /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/* install thing... | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I'll check later, but there is maybe 2 rules installing it, which is packaging issue | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: It'll be done toonight | 01:27 |
| _Sime_ | thanks | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | ./konq-plugins.install:debian/tmp/usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | argh ! | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | there are 2 rules installing it yes... | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | hum, that install file needs cleaning | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I just removed one rule, since there shouldn't be 2 rules for the same file, that's a packaging error... | 01:29 |
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| kwwii | hi all | 01:36 |
| kwwii | so KDM and Ksplash are finished, on to amrok | 01:36 |
| fdoving | great work :) | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: nice! :) | 01:39 |
| kwwii | :-) | 01:39 |
| kwwii | if I could find that good looking frenchman, he could package it all for me :p | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 01:40 |
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| imbrandon | heh kwwii i can do it now too | 01:43 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yes, GET TO WORK, kthnksbye! | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | hahah Hobbsee i've been working all last night heheh check the -bugs ML ;) | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | closed about a bagillion amarok bugs | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i've seen it :P | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i get email notifications of it :P | 01:45 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: but you don't have such a sexy accent :p | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | ok , off to grab some dew and to get the ipodslave working "correct" | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, hahaha yea | 01:46 |
| === Hobbsee hides imbrandon's mountain dew | ||
| === imbrandon slaughters Hobbsee | ||
| imbrandon | and her pointy stick | 01:46 |
| === Hobbsee dies bloodily all over imbrandon | ||
| imbrandon | lol | 01:46 |
| imbrandon | ok brb | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | mmm...a blood and guts covered imbrandon - and blood and guts all through his mountain dew, too. | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | bet that will be lovely drinking! | 01:46 |
| === kwwii notes that women down-under are hardcore | ||
| Hobbsee | kwwii: you could hardly call me the standard woman. | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: if i was, i wouldnt be involved with this kind of stuff. | 01:48 |
| kwwii | :p | 01:48 |
| kwwii | no shit | 01:48 |
| === Hobbsee wonders how kwwii defines hardcore | ||
| Tm_T | =) | 01:49 |
| kwwii | well, when I was 18 I packed a backpack and just kinda walked around europe for a while..ended up staying with lots of Australians and all the women I met used more curse words then I did | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh... | 01:51 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt tend to curse. | ||
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| raphink | Riddell: can I upload my new version of moodin + k-d-s now? | 02:15 |
| Riddell | raphink: sure | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | did kwwii have stuff to be added to that? | 02:23 |
| kwwii | we can wait until I have the amarok theme done as well to add my stuff | 02:24 |
| kwwii | perhaps the metabar stuff I started as well | 02:24 |
| kwwii | unless there is a good reason to add it now | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | testing purposes | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | and new shiny stuff is fun :) | 02:25 |
| kwwii | well, if you want to...http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-kdm.tar.gz and kubuntu-ksplash.tar.gz | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | gah i wish i still had my suse install atm | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | why? | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | so i could look at a few conf files they have ;) | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 02:40 |
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| imbrandon | hrm what file determins what konq does with a device when its pluged in Riddell | 02:54 |
| imbrandon | i set mine a long time ago to never prompt me , now i cant find it | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: hehe, feel free to send me the files by email :) | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: or you are doing the theme stuff in kds ? | 03:01 |
| imbrandon | i am but it will be a few hours before i'm ready, no biggie, go ahead | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I can do it now | 03:02 |
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| Tonio_ | imbrandon: where are the files ? | 03:02 |
| imbrandon | i dunno ask kwwii hehe | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I'em waiting for the files ;) | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | [07:29] <kwwii> well, if you want to...http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-kdm.tar.gz and kubuntu-ksplash.tar.gz | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: thanks, I missed that indeed | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: wget http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-ksplash.tar.gz 404....... | 03:08 |
| === imbrandon pokes kwwii | ||
| imbrandon | i dunno | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | i'm still messing with this ipod err well trying to | 03:09 |
| imbrandon | i figure its simple, i'm just overlooking something | 03:09 |
| kwwii | hehe | 03:10 |
| kwwii | sorry I was in the shower | 03:10 |
| === Jucato wonders if he was singing in there, too. :P | ||
| kwwii | oh, you know it, baby! | 03:11 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:11 |
| abattoir | kwwii: the new usplash looks great :) | 03:11 |
| kwwii | abattoir: well, it still needs some minor tweaking | 03:12 |
| kwwii | I think I will reduce the size of the logo | 03:13 |
| kwwii | or increase the size of the progress bar | 03:13 |
| Jucato | noooo | 03:13 |
| Jucato | increase the size of the progress bar and raise it a bit higher :P | 03:13 |
| kwwii | but using 256 colors is soooooo much nicer | 03:13 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: should I wait a bit for the ksplash then ? | 03:14 |
| Tonio_ | kdm theme is already in it | 03:14 |
| Tonio_ | ho you're talking about usplash | 03:14 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: no, we were talking about the usplash | 03:14 |
| kwwii | exactly | 03:14 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: hehe, what's the correct link for ksplash.tar.gz ? | 03:14 |
| kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-ksplash.tar.gz | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | the link you gave is invalid | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | ken, try it ;) error 404 | 03:15 |
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| kwwii | shit | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 03:15 |
| kwwii | I gotta remember that when I make the files from /usr it has the wrong permissions | 03:15 |
| kwwii | try it now | 03:16 |
| kwwii | it was actually only spelled wrong :p | 03:16 |
| abattoir | Riddell: could you please take a look at http://muse.19inch.net/~abattoir/shots/error.png when you are free? thanks. | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: works, thanks | 03:17 |
| goldenear | hi there | 03:18 |
| goldenear | I have a big problem since my last dapper upgrade yesterday... the nvidia proprietary driver doesn't work any more :( | 03:19 |
| goldenear | [17179645.096000] nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol boot_cpu_data | 03:19 |
| goldenear | [17179645.096000] nvidia: Unknown symbol boot_cpu_data | 03:19 |
| goldenear | Is this a known bug ? | 03:19 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: shoudln't BaseResolution be synched with the background resol in Theme.rc ? | 03:20 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I don't know I'm just asking :) | 03:20 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I wouild guess so...the ksplash stuff is kinda like magic anyway | 03:21 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: yep | 03:22 |
| Tonio_ | well we can change that in the future if needed... | 03:22 |
| kwwii | ahhh, I thought (for some stupid reason) that all of those were commented out | 03:23 |
| kwwii | guess that needs to exactly fit the size of the wallpaper file | 03:23 |
| kwwii | erm, Tonio_, that Theme.rc is fscked | 03:25 |
| kwwii | let me give you a new tar.gz | 03:25 |
| ryanakca | universe is enabled on a default kubuntu install, right? | 03:25 |
| Jucato | no | 03:25 |
| Jucato | afaik... | 03:25 |
| Tm_T | nope | 03:25 |
| ryanakca | kk | 03:26 |
| Jucato | and if you don't have an active/enabled internet connection during installation, all repositories are disabled by default | 03:26 |
| ryanakca | kk | 03:26 |
| Jucato | ryanakca: looks like you're our professor for today's/tomorrow's class :) | 03:26 |
| === ryanakca forgot to add the instructions of enabling universe to his course later on... | ||
| ryanakca | yeah | 03:26 |
| Jucato | ah :) | 03:26 |
| abattoir | on adept? | 03:27 |
| Jucato | apt | 03:27 |
| ryanakca | 4h30 down the road... | 03:27 |
| abattoir | oh ok | 03:27 |
| Jucato | no one's teaching Adept... :( | 03:27 |
| ryanakca | finishing touches... no aptitude... | 03:27 |
| Jucato | ah aptitude nice | 03:27 |
| ryanakca | I think CoreyBurger is doing adept... | 03:27 |
| Jucato | last I checked, only synaptic and CLI methods will be discussed | 03:27 |
| ryanakca | I'm just doing the graphical part... with a reference to the commands for those who would rather use those... | 03:28 |
| Jucato | ryanakca: btw, realistiK disappeared for a few days, then came back with r3 | 03:28 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: yeah, and then r3 disappeared for a few days, is it back? | 03:28 |
| Jucato | I haven't checked lately | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | those are the icons? | 03:29 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if they're pacakged/acceepted yet | ||
| ryanakca | Jucato: I found a sweet icon set based on realistiK... kwwii doesn't like it though.... crystal-diamond | 03:29 |
| Jucato | heh | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | that's already packaged, iirc | 03:29 |
| Jucato | ryanakca: really? | 03:29 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: I can package r3 in a hour... | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 03:29 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I updated the ksplash tar.gz | 03:29 |
| Jucato | well, if kwwii can give us a "beta" of Oxygen... :P | 03:30 |
| ryanakca | actually, I think I allready have r2 packaged... so just move debian/ over... | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | that's the idea :) | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: we cant distribute that :( | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | however, it's in svn | 03:30 |
| ryanakca | but then I have to delete the patches and remake them... | 03:30 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I put the right file name for the background (although it appears you do not need to) and I added the correct resolution | 03:30 |
| Jucato | we can't distribute realistiK either... | 03:30 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: why not? | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: that's rpobably quicker | 03:30 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: since when? | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: licencing | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: ? | 03:30 |
| Jucato | ah I meant, we can't make realistiK our default... | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | because? | 03:31 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: he downloaded them from KDE-Look, so it's fine | 03:31 |
| Jucato | because we fall back on Crystal SVG | 03:31 |
| Jucato | Crystal SVG + realistiK = not a good thing to see... | 03:31 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: yeah, and because we're changing iconsets in kde4 anywais... | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | unless realistiK has all the icons | 03:31 |
| Jucato | yes, unless it has all the icons | 03:31 |
| Jucato | it still has a lot missing... :( | 03:31 |
| ryanakca | if it does, I'm all for switching to realistiK... the guy said he had released a pile of icons from r2 to r3... | 03:32 |
| Jucato | well not that much. he's still missing some actions icons | 03:32 |
| ryanakca | ah | 03:33 |
| Jucato | and some apps as well | 03:33 |
| ryanakca | I like crystal-diamond's systray icons... realistiK doesn't have those... | 03:33 |
| ryanakca | yet... I don't think | 03:33 |
| Jucato | but hey, for a one-man team, he's good | 03:33 |
| ryanakca | He's awesome | 03:33 |
| === Jucato has a different Kopete and KNote system tray icons... | ||
| === ryanakca kicks himself in the rear and tells him to get back to work touching up his course and uploading his screenshots... is there a "mass upload" feature on the wiki? maybe /home/ryan/aptitudeclassroom/*.png ? | ||
| Jucato | heh | 03:35 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i think i found the reason why it doesnt work | 03:35 |
| abattoir | Riddell: oem-config-gtk is installed not oem-config-kde | 03:35 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii: uploaded :) | 03:41 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: cool | 03:41 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii: argh ! Background = kubuntu-wallpaper.jpg and the file is called Background.jpg..... | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | I have to correct this | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | new upload with correct base resolution too ;) | 03:45 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: update the tar.gz | 03:45 |
| kwwii | although, as I mentioned it does not matter if the file is named correctly | 03:46 |
| kwwii | but in the new tar.gz it is correct | 03:46 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: ah ok ;) | 03:47 |
| kwwii | I guess you missed me saying that I b0rked the last one, and updated the tar.gz eh? | 03:47 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: uploaded and this time I checked the binary content, the desktop file isn't in it :) | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: reuploaded, should be ok this time | 03:54 |
| kwwii | I hope so :-) | 04:01 |
| Jucato | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu still says that Knot 3 has not yet been released? | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | it has. very quietly | 04:03 |
| Jucato | heh... it didn't go unnoticed in the forums though :P | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | true | 04:04 |
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| mornfall | re | 04:20 |
| mornfall | i heard the magic word ("adept") | 04:21 |
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| abattoir | mornfall: there is a class on the classroom on package management | 04:25 |
| abattoir | !classroom | 04:25 |
| ubotu | The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom | 04:25 |
| mornfall | weeh, interesting :) | 04:26 |
| abattoir | mornfall: would you like to 'teach' about adept :P ? | 04:26 |
| abattoir | aah, nvm, they found someone :) | 04:26 |
| mornfall | not really | 04:26 |
| mornfall | if it was a formal languages course, i'd be more tempted :-) | 04:27 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: concerning konqueror and the window position, I think this is due to the preload session... | 04:28 |
| Tonio_ | the window position isn't saved because it is never closed,.... | 04:28 |
| Tonio_ | hum, it looks I can workarround this | 04:30 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: When you wake up and see this, did you have a chance to look at my email ? | 04:31 |
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| kwwii | wow, viper550 said he likes the kubuntu artwork | 04:36 |
| Tm_T | kwwii: nah, you should buy new glasses | 04:37 |
| kwwii | hehe | 04:37 |
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| Viper550 | Anyone wanna test out the new overlay I made? | 04:43 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii: nice new ksplash, although icons needs to be "reuped" a bit | 05:24 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: want me to do that ? | 05:24 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: yeah, the text really needs to go up like 10-15 pixels | 05:26 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: but you have to do that in the code, not in the rc file | 05:26 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I know :) | 05:27 |
| Tonio_ | moodin patch | 05:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: the K icon needs to go up too no ? | 05:27 |
| kwwii | cool | 05:27 |
| kwwii | well, it should really go at the end of the others | 05:27 |
| kwwii | or leave it where it is, or move it down a bit and we can use a bigger icon or such | 05:28 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: line up all of them ? | 05:28 |
| Tonio_ | and reup the text, okay I guess what to do | 05:28 |
| kwwii | yepp | 05:28 |
| Tonio_ | let's go | 05:28 |
| Jucato | heh | 05:28 |
| === Jucato wonders when aseigo will be joining Kubuntu to complete the naked trio :P | ||
| kwwii | hehe | 05:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: how about the stretched background ? | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | + //don't scale background, JRiddell | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | + QImage* bg; | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: ;) | 05:30 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I think that the bg should be sclead, as you say | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | Maybe I can do it directly | 05:30 |
| kwwii | hehe, scale it, definitely | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | removing this | 05:30 |
| kwwii | why can it only handle jpgs? | 05:31 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I think it can handle png too, but if you don't call the file Background.jpg, you have to set the name in Theme.rc | 05:32 |
| kwwii | ahhhh | 05:32 |
| Tonio_ | that's the trick, but you can call the file as you want | 05:32 |
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| kwwii | Tonio_: but when I gave it a path to the desktop bg in /usr/share/wallpapers it did not work | 05:37 |
| kwwii | iirf | 05:38 |
| kwwii | iirc | 05:38 |
| Tonio_ | yes, the file has to be in the same folder | 05:40 |
| ryanakca | Why is kubuntu blue all of a suden... and the window decorations are plain blue... background is a blue version of the purple one... | 05:40 |
| Tonio_ | but you can name it as you wish | 05:40 |
| ryanakca | (sorry if it's part of the transition to blue-purple. I just relogged in for the first time in a while) | 05:40 |
| Jucato | ryanakca: it's bluish purple/puplish blue actually... | 05:41 |
| ryanakca | Erm... it's identical to dapper from what I see... and the kde-pim stuff is pure blue... not even a trace of purple... just a second, I'll get you a screenshot | 05:42 |
| Jucato | well, the "welcome/introduction" pages are blue again | 05:42 |
| Jucato | but the windecos and wallpapers aren't | 05:42 |
| ryanakca | http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/blue.png | 05:42 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: sure about that? | 05:42 |
| === ryanakca needs to relearn his colors then... | ||
| Jucato | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu | 05:43 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: that is nothing near to what I'm seeing right here | 05:44 |
| Jucato | hmm | 05:44 |
| Jucato | can't get a screenshot now, though... | 05:45 |
| Jucato | haven't downloaded knot 3 and installed on vmware... | 05:45 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I'm testing the patch, but I think that should work | 05:45 |
| Jucato | maybe you should ask kwwii :P | 05:45 |
| abattoir | ryanakca: the windeco on your ss seems to be plastik | 05:45 |
| abattoir | ryanakca: ...rather than crystal | 05:45 |
| abattoir | ryanakca: try changing it to crysta | 05:46 |
| abattoir | *crystal | 05:46 |
| Jucato | ah yes.. | 05:46 |
| ryanakca | abattoir: well, I log in, and I get a "KDE 3.5.4 configuration wizard"... so I just go with the default settings... | 05:46 |
| === Jucato didn't see the screenshot... | ||
| abattoir | Jucato: kpersonalizer again :P | 05:46 |
| Jucato | er... | 05:46 |
| Jucato | that's not supposed to happen on Edgy right? | 05:46 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: there should be plenty of purple in the default theme | 05:47 |
| Jucato | but why did kpersonalizer run in the first place? | 05:47 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: cool, if we fsck it up, we will get a bug, I promise | 05:47 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: if that doesn't work right you notice it | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: yeah I know | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: hum, fsck and ksplash ? | 05:48 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: no clue :) | 05:48 |
| === Jucato is equally clueless | ||
| kwwii | suonds like a funky install to me | 05:49 |
| === kwwii lights the grill :-) | ||
| Jucato | ooh funky :) | 05:49 |
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| ryanakca | kwwii_afk: nope... same system I've been using since breezy-1 (Hoary I think)... just dist-upgraded from dapper | 05:50 |
| Jucato | hm.. | 05:51 |
| Jucato | did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 in Dapper before you dist-upgraded to Edgy? | 05:51 |
| ryanakca | erm... I think so... | 05:54 |
| ryanakca | that was almost 2 months ago | 05:54 |
| ryanakca | and it was fine before reboot... | 05:54 |
| Jucato | don't you were probably infected by the KDE 3.5.4-Dapper bug | 05:54 |
| Jucato | then an upgrade might have installed kpersonalizer | 05:55 |
| Jucato | activating the bug | 05:55 |
| ryanakca | ah | 05:55 |
| ryanakca | and why just now? | 05:55 |
| Jucato | happened to me too | 05:56 |
| Jucato | a late activation | 05:56 |
| ryanakca | ah | 05:56 |
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| Jucato | kpersonalizer was not installed when I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4, but when I installed kde-devel, it got installed and activated the bug | 05:56 |
| Tm_T | btw | 05:57 |
| ryanakca | solve my bloody python2.3 problem at the same time | 05:57 |
| Tm_T | I noticed one funny thing yesterday | 05:57 |
| ryanakca | "Preparing to replace kpersonalizer 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu19 (using .../kpersonalizer_4%3a3.5.4-0ubuntu20_i386.deb) ..." aha! | 05:57 |
| Tm_T | when I rebooted, only root partition was mounted | 05:57 |
| Tm_T | caused some hassle :) | 05:57 |
| Jucato | ooh | 05:57 |
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| GNUrante | Hi | 05:58 |
| Tm_T | that was after removing kde-guidance, can't remember what else | 05:58 |
| Jucato | ryanakca: you just need to comment out something in startkde to prevent kpersonalizer from starting up again | 05:58 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: Dapper or Edgy? | 05:58 |
| === ryanakca settles on running fresh install... | ||
| ryanakca | after tonights course that is... | 05:59 |
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| Jucato | heh | 05:59 |
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| Tm_T | Jucato: edgy | 06:15 |
| Jucato | ah edgy... :) | 06:16 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: and all returned to normal after mounting manually and reboot :p | 06:16 |
| Tm_T | weird though | 06:16 |
| Jucato | very weird | 06:16 |
| Tm_T | now that I remember, have to uninstall usplash, it doesn't show anything what happens | 06:16 |
| jdong | today is officially install-freebsd-on-a-random-computer day :) | 06:16 |
| Jucato | actually I think there's a bug, but it happens not when you reboot, only when you log out | 06:17 |
| Jucato | isn't today Software Freedom Day? | 06:17 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: well, I did that too | 06:17 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: after I noticed that my KDE appeared too much default =) | 06:17 |
| Jucato | ah, all partitions except for /, /home (if it's on a separate partition), and FAT32/NTFS partitions seem to be unmounted when you log out in Edgy | 06:17 |
| Jucato | I don't know if it was fixed in Knot3 | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | well, I lost /home and /home/media | 06:18 |
| Jucato | ouch.. that is strange | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | prolly during boot | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | anyway, haven't seen it again | 06:18 |
| jdong | speaking of data loss, it looks like Novell/SuSE is dumping reiserfs.... | 06:28 |
| jdong | poor Hans, first his ex-wife disappears, now his #1 corporate supporter.... | 06:28 |
| Jucato | :( | 06:28 |
| Jucato | unless he's responsible for the first problem? | 06:28 |
| jdong | and it appears like novell isn't too thrilled about reiser4 either :P | 06:29 |
| === jdong cues ext3 fanclub | ||
| Jucato | heh | 06:30 |
| jdong | hey, in other news today.... | 06:30 |
| jdong | my XP desktop's KAV has registered its 10,000th virus detected since installation :) | 06:31 |
| Jucato | er... | 06:31 |
| Jucato | nice! :) | 06:31 |
| === jdong sells his Windows soul to KAV | ||
| jdong | man, if it weren't for them I don't know how spyware-infested that machine would be | 06:31 |
| jdong | my dad's still an old-fashioned windows + IE person | 06:32 |
| jdong | I absolutely cannot get him to use anything else.... | 06:32 |
| Jucato | heh | 06:32 |
| jdong | he has his excuses to run windows... his CAE software only runs under windows | 06:32 |
| Jucato | hm.. KAV? isn't it Clam Anti-Virus (CAV?) | 06:32 |
| jdong | but his only reason for running IE is because "that's what he's used to" | 06:32 |
| jdong | Jucato: Kaspersky AV | 06:32 |
| Jucato | aaah | 06:32 |
| jdong | clamav doesn't cut it | 06:32 |
| jdong | clamav is great, but doesn't come close to KAV | 06:33 |
| jdong | clamav wasn't designed for that purpose | 06:33 |
| Jucato | that's a new one for me :) | 06:33 |
| jdong | mind you, the 10000 are what went through my squid+dansguardian+clamav gateway :) | 06:33 |
| Jucato | ouch | 06:33 |
| jdong | as far as paid software goes, I gotta say KAV is one of the few I feel proud of spending money towards | 06:34 |
| jdong | that's gotta be the best $50 investment towards protecting a windows box | 06:34 |
| jdong | then again, if everyone ran ubuntu, we wouldn't have this problem :) | 06:34 |
| Jucato | lol | 06:35 |
| Jucato | how true | 06:35 |
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| kwwii_afk | boah, mir ist so voll ich platze | 07:25 |
| Jucato | ?? | 07:26 |
| kwwii_afk | oops | 07:26 |
| kwwii_afk | boah, I am so full I will burst | 07:27 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 07:27 |
| Jucato | what language was that? gerrman? | 07:27 |
| kwwii_afk | yepp | 07:27 |
| Jucato | I only understood "ich" :) | 07:27 |
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| Tm_T | vai ett sellasta | 07:28 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 07:28 |
| Jucato | italian? | 07:28 |
| Tonio__ | kwwii_afk: a bit hard to patch it myself... | 07:28 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: you're insulting me? | 07:28 |
| Jucato | no... | 07:28 |
| Jucato | I"m just guessing... | 07:28 |
| Jucato | :( | 07:28 |
| Tm_T | bad guess | 07:28 |
| Tm_T | finnish :) | 07:29 |
| Jucato | sorry | 07:29 |
| Tm_T | np =) | 07:29 |
| abattoir | suomi :P | 07:29 |
| Tm_T | jep | 07:29 |
| Tonio__ | kwwii_afk: lots of coords are calculated with hardcoded numbers that I can't figure out what are they corresponding too... | 07:29 |
| Tonio__ | kwwii_afk: probably let Riddell do the job since he patched this.... | 07:29 |
| kwwii_afk | :-) | 07:29 |
| kwwii_afk | Tonio__: now you know why I left it alone | 07:30 |
| Tonio__ | kwwii_afk: hehe, yes..... | 07:30 |
| Tonio__ | hard to repatch this if you didn't write it yourself :) | 07:30 |
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| Tm_T | btw is there something changed in tab bar handling? atleast konsole and kopete tends to lose it here | 07:46 |
| Tm_T | especially konsole follows pattern | 07:46 |
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| kwwii | Tonio_: http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu-amarok.tar.gz is the new amarok theme for k-d-s | 08:03 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: the numbers are scaled as I remember | 08:22 |
| abattoir | Riddell: hi :) ... did you get my messages? | 08:32 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I must say I failed doing this.... | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it compiles but whatever I do, I'm missing the Dialog.png | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | I can change the coords, but concerning the scaled background with non-scalled Dialog, I can't do this.... too hard for my extremely limited abilities in patching :) | 08:55 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I'm uploading amarok stuff | 08:55 |
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| kwwii | everyone who is anyone should try http://bootsplash.org/windowdecotest2.png in the window deco overlays and http://bootsplash.org/glosspanel_kubuntu.jpg for the panel bg | 09:46 |
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| Tm_T | kwwii: err? | 10:21 |
| kwwii | Tm_T: ? | 10:21 |
| Tm_T | what I should do with those pics | 10:22 |
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| GNUrante | hi | 10:22 |
| kwwii | Tm_T: the first one should be set as the overlay for the window deco (in system settings-->appearance-->window decorations -->overlay | 10:23 |
| Tm_T | I see | 10:24 |
| Tm_T | that means I have to set up test user | 10:24 |
| kwwii | Tm_T: and the second one should be set as panel bg by right click on the panel -->configure panel-->appearance | 10:24 |
| kwwii | yes, if you want to keep the defualt | 10:24 |
| Tm_T | kwwii: aye, I'll try with test user, my current user is far from usable testground for those :) | 10:25 |
| Tm_T | 1px thick window border etc | 10:25 |
| kwwii | ;-) | 10:25 |
| Tm_T | http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current-temp.png that's the latest from me ;) | 10:26 |
| Tm_T | anyway, testing -> | 10:26 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 10:27 |
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| Tm_T | ok, now I messed it =) | 10:28 |
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| kwwii | someone should make a modern BII theme | 10:31 |
| GNUrante | kwwii: what do you think about dotNet2 theme? | 10:32 |
| Tm_T | kwwii: I tried | 10:32 |
| Tm_T | kwwii: I already modified some parts of it, but I'm not that skilled to make rounded corners etc | 10:33 |
| Tm_T | but I will try again when I'm in health enough ton do something seriously | 10:33 |
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| kwwii | dotNet2 theme? never heard of it | 10:37 |
| kwwii | Tm_T: yeah, that is a lot of hacking to get it right | 10:37 |
| Tm_T | what's default Kubuntu widget style? kpersonalizer messed defaults as you can expect | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | kwwii: looks good, though windeco overlay overlays buttons too | 10:41 |
| Tm_T | that's prolly expected | 10:42 |
| Tm_T | ok, this is tested -> | 10:42 |
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| kwwii | Tm_T: yeah, I would probably have to touch up the buttons if we use something like that | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | :) | 10:52 |
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| zorglu_ | sorry to interrupt, just wanted to know if gam_server eating 10% all the time, is a issue with my conf or a known problem ? | 11:19 |
| fdoving | known problem, it can however be fixed with configs, partly fixed, atleast. | 11:22 |
| fdoving | you can put 'fsset ext3 notify' in /etc/gamin/gaminrc | 11:22 |
| zorglu_ | ok trying, is there an url about this ? | 11:23 |
| fdoving | hmm.. | 11:23 |
| fdoving | http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html and http://www.orakel.ntnu.no/~havardda/blogg/posts/2006-02-23/kubuntu-breezy-and-the-hungry-gam_server/ | 11:25 |
| zorglu_ | thanks. your fixed worked instantly :) | 11:25 |
| fdoving | great :) | 11:26 |
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| GNUrante | kwwii: for dotNet2 you can see www.gnuton.org or debian.gnuton.org (dapper repository) | 11:37 |
| Riddell | abattoir: no, not got your messages | 11:37 |
| GNUrante | kwwii: or kde-looks.org | 11:37 |
| GNUrante | look | 11:37 |
| GNUrante | sorry | 11:37 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:mornfall] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel ! | Knot 3 Released | TODO: Gamin fixes at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Merges at: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | We will miss you, lilo... | ||
| Tm_T | amen | 11:44 |
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| kwwii | hehe | 11:45 |
| Riddell | what happened to lilo? | 11:45 |
| mornfall | Riddell: he's dead :( | 11:45 |
| kwwii | GNUrante: theat is a nice looking blog | 11:47 |
| Riddell | wow, nasty | 11:47 |
| Tm_T | I know bike accidents too well | 11:47 |
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| Tm_T | I really hope car drivers learn to give some space to bikers | 11:50 |
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| kwwii | ouch | 11:52 |
| GNUrante | :/ | 11:54 |
| GNUrante | kwwii: thnx | 11:54 |
| kwwii | GNUrante: but I need ppc packages | 11:56 |
| kwwii | for edgy ;-) | 11:56 |
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| GNUrante | kwwii: use apt-build, or download all file orig.tar.gz, .dsc...; run apt-source -x file.dsc; cd dotnet2; dpkg-buildpackage | 12:02 |
| GNUrante | kwwii: 5 minutes and you can have your dotNet2 Package! | 12:02 |
| kwwii | at the moment I am building a new inckscape and watching a film, perhaps later :-) | 12:06 |
| DaSkreech | hunger: ping | 12:08 |
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