[12:15] <botxj> im looking for way of making ubuntu to read my USB flash drive FAT32
[12:16] <Kr4t05> botxj: It should mount and open it automatically.
[12:16] <Kr4t05> Linux has few to no problem read and writing in FAT32.
[12:16] <botxj> Kr4t05: it never does
[12:16] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[12:17] <Kr4t05> Which the device pluged into the USB slot, type this command from Konsole.
[12:17] <liviux> hi all dear friends. I' ve got a little problem with bash. What does means "C compiler cannot create executables" ? What's wrong with configure?
[12:17] <botxj> in windows or even in my PS2 the flash drive is on, when i'm in linux it's not, i know because it has an LED light that tells me when it's on, or writing data
[12:17] <Sanne> liviux: maybe you need the package build-essential?
[12:17] <Kr4t05> botxj: do this in a command line. "dir /dev/ | grep sd"
[12:17] <botxj> ok
[12:18] <liviux> and what are they?
[12:18] <Kr4t05> !info build-essential
[12:18] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:18] <Sanne> liviux: was that for me?
[12:18] <botxj> Kr4t05: that command just gave me some device names
[12:18] <liviux> yes. Do you know essential package name?
[12:19] <Kr4t05> botxj: do you know which one might correspond with your flash drive?
[12:19] <liviux> are maybe cc, gcc...?
[12:19] <MidMark> hi I have a problem
[12:19] <botxj> Kr4t05: i have no idea, i dont think my flash drive is even on
[12:19] <MidMark> I have set that korganizer start at boot always
[12:19] <Kr4t05> liviux: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:19] <MidMark> but now I cannot stop it
[12:19] <Kr4t05> botxj: Hrm...
[12:19] <botxj> my flash drive turns off when it boots into linux
[12:19] <MidMark> the option is broken
[12:20] <liviux> oh that's great! Thank you very much
[12:20] <botxj> my flash drive is a Memorex Travel drive 512MB
[12:20] <Sanne> look what Kr4t05 and ubotu wrote. The package name is build-essential, it is a meta-package for essential stuff you need to build software from sources.
[12:20] <Kr4t05> botxj: There might be something on the forums about it. Have you tried more than one USB hub?
[12:20] <botxj> i've tried multiple hubs on my motherboard
[12:20] <Kr4t05> botxj: Hrm...
[12:20] <botxj> i hope that's what you mean by hubs
[12:20] <Sanne> liviux: if you want to compile stuff, you need it
[12:21] <Kr4t05> botxj: Yeah.
[12:21] <botxj> i have 6 usb ports
[12:21] <liviux> ok thank you so much
[12:22] <botxj> hda4       ptybc  ptyr1  ptyw6  stdout      ttyb3  ttyq8   ttysd   ttyy2
[12:22] <botxj> md18       ptyd8  ptysd  ptyy2  tty32       ttycf  ttyS10  ttyu9   ttyze
[12:22] <botxj> those are the devices that command printed out
[12:22] <Kr4t05> botxj: Er...
[12:22] <Kr4t05> Ah, ok.
[12:22] <Kr4t05> botxj: Do this. "lsusb -v" and paste the results to a pastebin. :)
[12:24] <botxj> Kr4t05: alright
[12:24] <Kr4t05> botxj: I would assume your on Dapper?
[12:26] <botxj> is Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper? or Badger? i forget
[12:26] <Kr4t05> 6.06 is Dapper, yes.
[12:26] <botxj> then yeah, dapper
[12:27] <botxj> you know for a few months, pastebin never works for me
[12:27] <botxj> it hangs when you try to post something
[12:27] <botxj> pastebin.com
[12:27] <Kr4t05> !pastebin
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:27] <Kr4t05> Use that one.
[12:27] <botxj> oh ok
[12:27] <botxj> wow, love the technology here in this network
[12:27] <Kr4t05> :)
[12:28] <Kr4t05> Ugh...
[12:28] <Kr4t05> 103MB KDE updates. ><
[12:28] <botxj> Kr4t05: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23561
[12:29] <Kr4t05> That's strange
[12:29] <Kr4t05> Do it again, with a 'sudo' on it.
[12:29] <botxj> ok
[12:33] <botxj> Kr4t05: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23562
[12:37] <botxj> whois botxj
[12:37] <aa> ..
[12:37] <botxj> i forgot the /
[12:38] <Vegeta^> I can't upload in kubuntu.. Is there a way to check what the problem is caused by?
[12:39] <Kr4t05> botxj: I don't know what to tell you about this one... According to this, the USB drive doesn't even exist. :P
[12:39] <Kr4t05> Are you comfortable with upgrading to Edgy?
[12:39] <aa> strange
[12:39] <aa> i can't claim my nick
[12:39] <botxj> i know Kr4t05 like i said, my usb flash drive is off
[12:40] <botxj> even though it's plugged in
[12:40] <botxj> it has an LED light on it that says so
[12:40] <Kr4t05> botxj: Ok... I asked, are you willing to upgrade to Edgy?
[12:40] <botxj> during BIOS boot time, it's on scanning itself, when windows boots, it's always on, but when linux boots, it turns itself off
[12:41] <botxj> nah, im not willing to do that, but if Edgy has a live mode, ill try it
[12:41] <bee2> im on kubuntu live cd now...
[12:41] <Kr4t05> botxj: Only if you download the CD for it.
[12:41] <botxj> i know
[12:41] <botxj> i have broadband, and DVDRW's so it dont matter
[12:42] <bee2> i cant boot into kubuntu...i went to install windows xp on a spare bit of my HD...forgot to partition a bit off, i quit the windows installer at the HD partitioning screen, and now it says   no operating system found
[12:42] <bee2> i assume its the master boot record
[12:42] <bee2> can i change it somehow? so i can get back to my kubuntu :S
[12:43] <baleado> oi
[12:43] <liviux> sorry to interrupt, but I have a new strange output from shell: "X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" does anyone know if I can resolve it?
[12:43] <Kr4t05> !grub
[12:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:43] <bee2> :D ty
[12:44] <fdoving> liviux: install the xorg-dev package.
[12:44] <Kr4t05> bee2: You may have screwed yourself. :P
[12:44] <liviux> I'll try thanks
[12:44] <bee2> Kr4t05: i quit using my computer for a while then if i have
[12:44] <bee2> Kr4t05: that will p me off too much mate
[12:45] <Kr4t05> bee2: Aw, it's not big. We've all hosed an install with something stupid.
[12:45] <bee2> Kr4t05: slightly different with me
[12:45] <Kr4t05> Ok...
[12:48] <bee2> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[12:48] <bee2> Error 15: File not found
[12:53] <bee2> how do you find where your /boot is at
[12:53] <bee2> i cant remember which hard drive my linux boot is on
[12:53] <bee2> disc info doesnt show me either
[12:54] <obf213> Kr4t05: you think you can help me fix my computer
[12:54] <obf213> it does all sorts of wierd stuff
[01:00] <Vegeta^> What could the reason be to, that the upload speed in KTorrent is going up and down to 0, and constantly does that, by going up and down..?
[01:00] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[01:00] <Kr4t05> obf213: like what?
[01:01] <Sanne> larson9999: it does indeed :)
[01:01] <Vegeta^> But doing anything is a pain in the ass at the begining with Linux!
[01:02] <Kr4t05> !language
[01:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:02] <larson9999> Vegeta^: it can be tough but try getting something that doesn't ship with an xp driver to work in windows
[01:03] <larson9999> time to install this tv card see you in a bit
[01:03] <Sanne> Vegeta^: it is hard at first, but mostly only because everything is new. If you keep at it, you'll learn and after some time might love it. I did :)
[01:04] <Kr4t05> If more hardware makers (and codec folks) were willing to legally allow their drivers to be used by the developers, Linux would be much more widely adopted. That, and some real advertisement.
[01:05] <Kr4t05> I still use VMware for one or two pieces of hardware that won't work in Linux.
[01:05] <Vegeta^> Sanne: and larson9999: True it's hard, but IMO it's way more fun doing things in Linux, than windows ;). And there are (many!) things in Linux, that are just better than in windows.
[01:06] <Sanne> Vegeta^: yes, it is, and there are :)
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Ubuntu isn't hard
[01:06] <Vegeta^> Admiral_Chicago: It is for a newbie like me :)
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> its frustrating because most of the answers to your question are quite obvious
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Vegeta^, i learned it in about aw eek
[01:07] <botxj> i'm on my way to installing XGL on my ubuntu
[01:07] <botxj> cant wait for that
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> a week*
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> botxj, i liked it
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> err like it
[01:07] <Vegeta^> So you can answer the Q i had right before?
[01:07] <botxj> lol
[01:07] <[Relic] > how do you install a module?
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Vegeta^, is it going up and down or just saying it is
[01:07] <[Relic] > or what conf am I looking for  :)
[01:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Ktorrent would tell me it was not going but it really was
[01:08] <Admiral_Chicago> [Relic] , what are you trying to do
[01:08] <[Relic] > install a module for a cheapie webcam
[01:08] <Vegeta^> Admiral_Chicago: What do you mean? The speed is oscillating, I can read that from the speedoemter...
[01:10] <[Relic] > find file shows the .ko files in the drivers exist and the usb list shows the device so I need to figure out how to mkae certain the module for the driver activates each time I boot
[01:10] <Vegeta^> Admiral_Chicago: I have opened the UPD port, it helpede a little but the oscillation didn't stop. Do I need a range of UDP ports open?
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't know really
[01:10] <Vegeta^> Openede the UPD port*
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> to Vegeta and [Relic] 
[01:10] <[Relic] > :)
[01:11] <Vegeta^> lol
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> is there a tool that will give me a textual version of a directory tree?
[01:13] <ep> Help: Udating from Breezy to Dapper. I edited sources.list, changed everything to 'dapper'.  Then ran update (no errorsl)  Ran dist-upgrade which downloaded everything,  hummed along no errors...
[01:14] <ep> Got to a prompt about kdm and I elected to stop X . It did, I got the text shell and never could get back. Had to reboot and startx wouldn't work.  How screwed am I?
[01:15] <ep> I never got any errors.
[01:15] <Kr4t05> BRB, reboot, lol
[01:16] <ep> I'm in windows now btw
[01:16] <botxj> hey i love windows :P
[01:16] <bee2> omg
[01:23] <obf213> why does the right click on my usb mouse all of a sudden not work?
[01:24] <ep> one problem, startx couldnt load the nvida drivers so what do I change in the xorg.conf file to use the generic drivers?
[01:24] <obf213> im having major reboot problems, my shut down seems to be diffrent everytime, and the computer never restarts
[01:26] <flukej-walker> obf213: backup, wait till full edgy release, reinstall
[01:26] <bee2> Kr4t05
[01:26] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: I agree.
[01:26] <bee2> right...i can reinstall, because all of my data is on a storage disk which is unaffected :P
[01:26] <Kr4t05> bee2: yo?
[01:26] <bee2> im on kde at the moment
[01:26] <obf213> flukej-walker: wht files should i backup
[01:26] <bee2> my friend said he wont help me with linux unless i use gnome
[01:26] <bee2> lol
[01:27] <flukej-walker> obf213: I would back up my /usr/ files, /home/, and anything you want to see again
[01:27] <ep> when is edgy released?
[01:27] <flukej-walker> i beleive its Oct. 26th
[01:27] <lupine_85> !schedule
[01:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:27] <flukej-walker> !Edgy
[01:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:28] <obf213> ok, but will that fix my reboot errors
[01:28] <flukej-walker> it should
[01:28] <obf213> i think ill just wait until abattoir or something gets on
[01:28] <obf213> i never should messed wt] ith sysv
[01:29] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[01:29] <[Relic] > that didn't work :(
[01:29] <flukej-walker> ep: to edit your xorg.conf, I would load up a LiveCD so I could have a nice graphic way to see what I was screwing up
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ep, or do sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> DAPP support for Amarok!
[01:37] <ep> Can only boot to console, startx complains on about the nvidia drives.  To switch to the free nv drivers do I just change "nvdia" to "nv" in xorg.conf?
[01:38] <ep> My 'breezy' update didn't go well :(
[01:38] <arcasa> Hey guys. I installed FireFox (Windows version) With WINE... It runs (Criminally bad fonts though) I installed the flash plugin that FireFox downloads and installs on its own.. Now flash plays, but at maybe one frame every 2 seconds and has no sound... Please help me :)
[01:38] <ketsugi> Are there any really good KDE-centric Linux distros?
[01:38] <ep> wasn't breezy
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ep
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ep, yes
[01:39] <flukej-walker> is there a way to see all programs you have installed?
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> arcasa, there isn't much we can do about that
[01:39] <flukej-walker> arcasa: why do it through WINE?
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> flukej-walker, no flash 9
[01:39] <flukej-walker> ah
[01:40] <arcasa> Because I thought with WINE you could get flash 9 to work and therefore have sound and decent flash
[01:40] <flukej-walker> when it works at more than 2 fps
[01:40] <arcasa> Seeing as flash and Steam are the two things I miss when I switched from windows.
[01:41] <Sanne> flukej-walker: to see all programs you have installed with apt/adept/synaptic/dpkg, you can do: dpkg -l
[01:42] <Sanne> flukej-walker: or better: COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l
[01:42] <Yoguess> can someone help me please?
[01:43] <ace> how do i move some files into the root file folder
[01:45] <Yoguess> i am using kubuntu, have 2 harddrives, 1st drive has kubuntu, swap and / partitions
[01:45] <Yoguess> and also a partition for storage
[01:46] <angasule> !xgl
[01:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:46] <Yoguess> second drive is all for my personal files (backup, storage, downloads)
[01:46] <Yoguess> hda3 and hdb1, I created and formatted them with ext3
[01:46] <[Relic] > what is the command to tell which kernel modules are running
[01:47] <RazvanS> uname --help
[01:47] <Yoguess> i also created mount point in /mnt/hda3 and /mnt/hdb1
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, what do you want to do
[01:47] <Yoguess> i am trying to auto mount the partitions
[01:48] <Yoguess> but before that they should be working right now
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, okay not tell me this: /hda3 is what file system and same for hdb1
[01:48] <Yoguess> but on 1 drive i get access denied error when i try to write a file to it
[01:48] <Yoguess> they both are ext3
[01:49] <Yoguess> and 1 partition wont let me access it at all
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> put your /etc/fstab in there
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> and send it back to me with the link
[01:51] <ace> im running ubuntu dapper and im wondering how do i put files in the root folder on hda1
[01:51] <ditte> hi
[01:51] <Yoguess> you want the actual file, cut and paste or screenshot?
[01:52] <ace> cut and paste
[01:52] <ditte> ok, keep in mind I'm a newbie, don't be too harsh on me, please
[01:52] <ditte> I have a question
[01:52] <ditte> I have just apt-got gimp
[01:52] <ditte> how, erh, do I open it?
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ace, you can't do that as a user
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i think you need to be sudo
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> ditte, open up K menu
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> the little K in the panel
[01:53] <ditte> Admiral_Chicago: you're a genius:)
[01:53] <ace> i dont know how else to do it
[01:53] <Yoguess> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23566
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to get yelled at for this but...
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ace, go to run command and type kdesu konqueror
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ditte, you find itL
[01:55] <ditte> Admiral: yup, I did, thanks
[01:55] <ditte> a slightly less stupid question
[01:55] <ditte> does anybody use quanta?
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23567
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> try that
[01:56] <ace> it says that there is no such command
[01:57] <Ash-Fox> Gah, where was that option to disable icons on the desktop pager?
[01:57] <Ash-Fox> (Permamently, so I don't have todo it each login)
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu konqueror from run command?
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> in the K menu
[01:58] <ace> k menu?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> the thing with the little K
[02:01] <Yoguess> to save in VI, its Esc then ":wq"???
[02:02] <shegman> yes
[02:03] <ace> i only have the terminal there
[02:05] <ditte> Youguess: only if you want to save. Otherwise, lose the "w"
[02:05] <Yoguess> admiral?
[02:05] <ditte> and write q! so it doesn't bother you
[02:05] <shegman> ace: i don't know why you want a root konqueror but type: alt+f2 and then kdesu konqueror
[02:05] <Yoguess> yes i figure out the problem ditte
[02:05] <Yoguess> admiral just help me edit fstab
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, yes?
[02:05] <Yoguess> but 1 of the line "/mnt//hda3"
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[02:06] <Yoguess> there are 2 slash
[02:06] <ace> ah
[02:06] <Yoguess> 1 right?
[02:06] <ditte> Youguess: brave of you to use vi, by the way...I had to use it in the 90's and drove me insane every time:)
[02:06] <ace> it says that it cant open it
[02:06] <ketsugi> How do I access the Gnome control panel from KDE?
[02:07] <Yoguess> we used vi and nano alot last year in my security class
[02:07] <Yoguess> which is good? recommended by u guys?
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23569
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, i use nano
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> ketsugi, you can't
[02:08] <ketsugi> Hm
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Gnome control panel is for GNOME,
[02:08] <ketsugi> So how can I adjust settings for Gnome applications?
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ketsugi, open up a new TTY
[02:08] <ketsugi> Like right now, antialiasing is off in my Gnome apps
[02:08] <ketsugi> I want to turn it on
[02:08] <ketsugi> font antialiasing, I mean
[02:09] <Yoguess> so i guess i should restart my pc for it to work properly now??
[02:11] <Sanne> ketsugi: you can start the gnome control application from a terminal or a run dialog, if you know it's name
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, yes
[02:11] <ketsugi> hmm okay thanks
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i think so
[02:11] <Yoguess> thanks guys
[02:12] <ditte> is there an SDP client for kubuntu??
[02:12] <Sanne> ketsugi: you could type in konsole: gnome<tab><tab> to see all programs starting with gnome, and pick the one that looks promising :)
[02:12] <Yoguess> oh wait, another question
[02:12] <ketsugi> yeah I tried that
[02:12] <ketsugi> none of them look promising, though :/
[02:13] <Sanne> ketsugi: nothing with gnome and control in it's name?
[02:13] <Yoguess> 1 of the partition that i can access has nothing on it accept "lost&found" folder, its taking up 4gb
[02:13] <ketsugi> yeah. I'll ask around in #ubuntu
[02:13] <Kr4t05> BRB restart
[02:13] <Yoguess> is this normal?
[02:13] <lupine_85> Yoguess: stuff in lost and found hasn't been deleted, but the fs doesn't know where it should be
[02:14] <lupine_85> usually indicates corruption somewhere
[02:14] <Sanne> ketsugi: the name is gnome-control-center (i just looked). You might not have it installed. But if you install that, it might pull the half of Gnome to your system, so simulate first to know what you're getting into.
[02:14] <ketsugi> I think I might have uninstalled it :/
[02:14] <Yoguess> is there a way to fix this?
[02:15] <Sanne> ketsugi: if you don't mind any additional libs, you might try installing it anyway.
[02:15] <ketsugi> yeah I will
[02:15] <ketsugi> thanks
[02:15] <Sanne> ketsugi: you're welcome :)
[02:16] <arejaytee> how i install the latest flash into konqueror,?
[02:17] <Yoguess> i guess ill restart first to see if they work first
[02:17] <Yoguess> brb
[02:21] <shadowhywind> quick question, I have to start my computer with acpi=off so i can boot into linux, but becuase of that i lose my wireless and battery status anyone know of a fix?
[02:23] <yoguess> im back
[02:23] <james_xxx> lupine_85: are you out there?
[02:24] <yoguess> Admiral: I rebooted and both hda3 and hdb1 mounted, but I still cant write to them
[02:24] <bobbyyu> Can someone please help me with gcj?
[02:25] <yoguess> also both partitions have nothing on them but 4GB is being used
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> yoguess, hm
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[02:25] <yoguess> ok
[02:26] <javi_> hola
[02:26] <obf213> i need help geteting my computer to restart again, plus i need help with my wierd shut downs
[02:26] <bobbyyu> My Java Compiler returned this message:
[02:26] <bobbyyu> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function `_start':../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:115: undefined reference to `main'
[02:26] <bobbyyu> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:26] <javi_> puedo hacer una consulta de un neofito en linux a alguien que hable espaol?
[02:27] <obf213> !spanish
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <obf213> !es
[02:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> yoguess, you sure its ext3?
[02:27] <javi_> thanks
[02:27] <yoguess> if this helps any, when I rebooted there was an error on boot up "The process for teh media protocol died unexpectedly"
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> type sudo fdisk -l in a konsole
[02:28] <yoguess> i'm looking at it in Gparted, it says ext3
[02:29] <ditte> bbl
[02:30] <yoguess> hdb1 "/dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   83  Linux"
[02:30] <yoguess> hda3"/dev/hda3            2603       19457   135387787+  83  Linux"
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> yoguess, okay
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea then
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[02:31] <bobbyyu> What does "undefined reference to `main'" mean?
[02:31] <yoguess> admiral: is it possible to redo this by deleting the partitions and creating them again?
[02:32] <yoguess> with different format this time?
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't the format is the problem
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> the problem is the options in fstab
[02:33] <Sanne> night all
[02:40] <obf213> Admiral you think you can help me get my reboot back
[02:40] <obf213> and a normal shutdown
[02:43] <obf213> can anybody help me with this
[02:43] <obf213> my shutdown is really abrupt an d my computer never actually restarts ifi shut it down under restart
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> obf213, what?
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> please rephrase that
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i can try to help you as much as possible
[02:49] <obf213> ok
[02:49] <obf213> errm
[02:49] <obf213> i my computer doesnt reboot anymore
[02:49] <obf213> sorry restart
[02:49] <obf213> if i tell it to restart it just shuts down
[02:49] <obf213> also another problem.
[02:49] <obf213> normally linux goes through a lengthy process of shutdown a bunch of services, like ALSA etc.
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> about your reboot problem, i have no idea
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> obf213, yes
[02:50] <obf213> my computer for some reseason has stopped doing this
[02:50] <obf213> it just shows, usplash, then it says will now halt
[02:50] <obf213> so shut down is like 5 seconds
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> obf213, i have no idea
[02:50] <obf213> damn
[02:50] <obf213> well i can tell you how this all started
[02:50] <flukej-walker> does it cleany unmount your drives?
[02:50] <obf213> maybe that will help
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> looks like you have an init problem
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> !init
[02:50] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:51] <ubuntu> hey
[02:51] <ubuntu> somebody knows how to use kubuntu with SLI _
[02:51] <ubuntu> ?
[02:51] <obf213> Admiral_Chicago
[02:51] <obf213> i used this command: sudo sysv-rc-conf
[02:52] <obf213> to change that init stuff
[02:52] <ubuntu> are you sayin that to me_
[02:52] <ubuntu> ?
[02:52] <obf213> i didnt touch anything but programs, and this when all this trouble happened
[02:52] <obf213> ubuntu: no its toAdmiral_Chicago
[02:52] <ubuntu> ?
[02:52] <ubuntu> a
[02:52] <ubuntu> shit
[02:52] <ubuntu> please i need help
[02:52] <ubuntu_> My hard drive broke a while ago and I have been booting from a Live CD for a long time. Well I'm getting tired of not being able to do anything or there occasional lock up. So I was wondering if there is a way to us QTParted or any Partitioning tool to take a little chunk out of my Music HD. Its a 60 gig hard drive and I am only using 35 gigs of it. I just want to take 10 gigs off the whole Partition. If this is possible co
[02:52] <ubuntu_>  isn't possible could someone tell me of another way to do things?
[02:53] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: how is it formatted?
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: Run QTParted/GParted/whatever from the live CD, and partition it. :)
[02:53] <obf213> does anyone here think they could take screen shots of their sysv rc config
[02:53] <obf213> so i can c where mine is messed up
[02:53] <ubuntu> help to use SLI
[02:53] <flukej-walker> NTFS is messy to resize partitions
[02:53] <ubuntu> please
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: I think you can do this automatically with the installer.
[02:53] <ubuntu> :(
[02:54] <ubuntu_> I formatted it using ext3
[02:54] <ubuntu_> I saw use free space on the installer...but it uses all the free space not just 10 gigs...
[02:54] <flukej-walker> then you should be able to resize from LiveCD, and install from the CD
[02:55] <ubuntu_> How would I got along that with QTParted...
[02:55] <flukej-walker> you need to create a new partion on the drive
[02:55] <holley> why does the text on desktop icons wrap mid-word?  it kinda sucks...
[02:55] <ubuntu_> I noticed that was the only one on the Kubuntu Live CD..
[02:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: If you use the manual selection, you should be able to do that in the installer.
[02:55] <flukej-walker> I like the old school, text-based install
[02:56] <ubuntu_> I tried to click on resize in QTParted but it won't let me click...It says the Partition is active?
[02:56] <ubuntu_> Anyone have a clue on how to make it unactive?
[02:56] <flukej-walker> unmount it
[02:56] <flukej-walker> sudo umount /dev/hda*
[02:57] <holley> I guess I'll just force their text width up since auto is dumb...
[02:57] <flukej-walker> you are running from LiveCD
[02:57] <flukej-walker> it would be kinda bad to unmount the partiton your running from
[02:57] <flukej-walker> I don't think it will let you tho
[02:57] <ubuntu_> I died the umount /dev/hda* and it still says /dev/hda1 is active
[02:57] <ubuntu_> tried not died haha
[02:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: Refresh it.
[02:58] <ubuntu_> I exited out of the program and reloaded it after I umounted
[02:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh.
[02:58] <obf213> can anyone take a picture of their init files
[02:58] <obf213> and the run levels
[02:58] <[-KaSatKa-] > What package do i have to install to get php support on my apache2 server?
[02:58] <obf213> so i can see where mine are messed up
[02:59] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: did you place the number of the drive where the * is?
[02:59] <flukej-walker> sorry wasn't specific
[02:59] <ubuntu_> I figured it out but it gives me a pop up message asking me if I really want to make my drive unactive
[02:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> [-KaSatKa-] : Maybe php5?
[02:59] <ubuntu_> If I do that will I lose my data?
[02:59] <flukej-walker> nope
[02:59] <ubuntu_> right on
[02:59] <flukej-walker> your OK
[02:59] <flukej-walker> it will just unmount it and let you screw with it
[03:00] <flukej-walker> make sure you don't re-format tho
[03:00] <ubuntu_> Still won't let me resize it..
[03:00] <flukej-walker> might have been a good idea to backup...
[03:00] <flukej-walker> what are the options?
[03:00] <flukej-walker> you in QTparted?
[03:01] <ubuntu_> Property, Format and Delete
[03:01] <flukej-walker> oh
[03:01] <flukej-walker> harsh
[03:01] <ubuntu_> YEah I know..
[03:01] <Al-0op> Installing the new Kubuntu right now. Other than not liking the partitioner (I ended up using the micro-distro G-Parted) things seem to be going well. I'm sure I'll be back in a bit to ask more questions.
[03:01] <flukej-walker> AI-0op: good luck
[03:02] <ubuntu_> I guess I can just use the rest of the free space...
[03:02] <ubuntu_> Then just save the rest of my music on the home folder..
[03:02] <[-KaSatKa-] > CheeseBurgerMan: Still doesn't work
[03:02] <flukej-walker> do you really have 60 gigs of tunes?
[03:02] <ubuntu_> 35 gigs of music
[03:03] <ubuntu_> on a 60 gig drive
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> [-KaSatKa-]  If you want to use PHP/mySQL you may have to install php5-mysql
[03:03] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: what version of qtparted are you using?
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> [-KaSatKa-] : I'm not really too good with the server setups, I only use Kubuntu on a home machine. :)
[03:03] <ubuntu_> 0.4.5
[03:03] <flukej-walker> -cvs?
[03:03] <ubuntu_> yeah
[03:03] <flukej-walker> thats what I'm using
[03:03] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu web" profile ... how can I restore it back ?
[03:04] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: run mount in a Konsole
[03:04] <flukej-walker> is the drive you want listed as mounted?
[03:04] <flukej-walker> you will prob have to sudo to umount it
[03:05] <ubuntu_> my drive isn't there...
[03:05] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:05] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu
[03:05] <CVirus> oops
[03:05] <flukej-walker> is it listed in QTparted?
[03:05] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu web" profile ... how can I restore it back ?
[03:05] <ubuntu_> Yeah its /dev/hda1
[03:06] <flukej-walker> ext3?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> yeah
[03:06] <flukej-walker> right click it and it only gives the format/delete stuff?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> yep
[03:06] <ubuntu_> I don't get the resize option
[03:06] <flukej-walker> click property
[03:07] <flukej-walker> and see if it can "grow"
[03:07] <flukej-walker> is that the only partiton on the drive?
[03:07] <user__> hello,
[03:07] <ubuntu_> it says "it can grow left: 0.0307617 and right : 56533.4"
[03:07] <user__> I'm new to linux, and i'm having some problems installing flash player
[03:07] <ubuntu_> There is a /dev/hda2 extended and /dev/hda5 linux-swap
[03:08] <flukej-walker> ah
[03:08] <flukej-walker> there in the way
[03:08] <flukej-walker> whats in the others?
[03:08] <user__> can any one help me
[03:08] <Kr4t05> !flash > user__
[03:08] <flukej-walker> user_: whats up?
[03:08] <ubuntu_> Nothing its just a swap and some other one..
[03:08] <flukej-walker> the other one doesn't have any data?
[03:08] <ubuntu_> Nope
[03:08] <flukej-walker> how big is it?
[03:08] <flukej-walker> delete it
[03:09] <ubuntu_> 705.98 MBs
[03:09] <ubuntu_> Both of them are..
[03:09] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:09] <flukej-walker> swap and the other?
[03:09] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu web" profile ... how can I restore it back ?
[03:09] <ubuntu_> its extended
[03:09] <flukej-walker> delete it and the swap
[03:09] <ubuntu_> Alright I did..
[03:09] <flukej-walker> you can create a swap later
[03:09] <flukej-walker> now, can you resize the first one?
[03:09] <ubuntu_> Nope..
[03:10] <flukej-walker> go ahead and apply your changes
[03:10] <ubuntu_> I did...
[03:10] <flukej-walker> it should take a lil bt
[03:10] <flukej-walker> bit*
[03:11] <ubuntu_> I have the free space from those but I still can't resize
[03:11] <LinuxNT> Hi!... How to correct a pipe broken error in adept? I attempt to update but an error appears ever! Check it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23573
[03:12] <LinuxNT> Thanks in advance!
[03:12] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: go into Adept/Synaptic and get yourself a copy of Gnome Partiton editor (Gparted)
[03:12] <ubuntu_> alright
[03:12] <flukej-walker> i find it easier
[03:13] <ubuntu_> That qtparted is confusing
[03:13] <flukej-walker> yes, but quite functional
[03:13] <flukej-walker> you can unmount from the program
[03:13] <ubuntu_> installing gparted now..
[03:14] <flukej-walker> it gives me the resize option
[03:14] <ubuntu_> qt does or gparted?
[03:14] <flukej-walker> gparted
[03:14] <flukej-walker> qt didn't
[03:14] <ubuntu_> Alright I'm 50% done lol
[03:14] <ubuntu_> 95 now haha
[03:14] <flukej-walker> fast connection
[03:14] <ubuntu_> Yeah lol
[03:14] <Al-0op> qt parted is OK, but I find it tends to fight me since I guess I make complicated partition schemes. Gparted just does it with no arguments.
[03:15] <ubuntu_> I get resize with gparted
[03:15] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:15] <flukej-walker> tred carefully
[03:15] <ace> any of you guys ever used cedega
[03:15] <flukej-walker> for you have journeyed into the realm of your data...
[03:15] <Kr4t05> I hate resizeing ext3
[03:15] <flukej-walker> ace: what is it?
[03:16] <flukej-walker> resizing NTFS is the worst
[03:16] <flukej-walker> for a dual boot
[03:16] <Kr4t05> You have to remove the journal to make it ext2, resize, then re-create a journal
[03:16] <flukej-walker> I ended up re-installing Windows and reisntalling in FAT32 for Read-write support
[03:16] <ace> its a windows emo for mostly playing games
[03:16] <flukej-walker> yeap
[03:16] <flukej-walker> and storing large files, like my DVD collection
[03:17] <flukej-walker> don't like lugging discs around
[03:17] <ubuntu_> sweet it worked
[03:17] <flukej-walker> awesome
[03:17] <ubuntu_> or so I think..
[03:17] <flukej-walker> you'll have to run an installer now
[03:17] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: I'm about to get a new external disk.
[03:17] <flukej-walker> does it show it?
[03:17] <ubuntu_> yellow is the used space right?
[03:17] <flukej-walker> correct
[03:17] <ubuntu_> Alright we are good then I think
[03:17] <flukej-walker> me too,Kr405, and a DVD burner
[03:18] <obf213> art i think i figured out wht the problem is but i dont know how to fix it
[03:18] <ubuntu_> I brought it down from 56 gigs to 46 gigs.
[03:18] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:18] <Kr4t05> Maybe around Xmas for the DVD burner. I can put that on my "Santa List."
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Does it usually take a long time?
[03:18] <flukej-walker> yes
[03:18] <Kr4t05> (Read: Mom and Dad, I want this.)
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Dvd burners are only like 40-50 dollars now..
[03:18] <obf213> is there a way to reorder rc6.d
[03:19] <Kr4t05> Yeah, I'm on part-time, though, so I'd have to actually save my money for one. :P
[03:19] <flukej-walker> i know, i figure the dual layers will drop even more when blu-ray/hd-dvd comes out for real
[03:19] <ubuntu_> I worked mininum wage in arizona...
[03:19] <ubuntu_> as a cart pusher...
[03:19] <ubuntu_> impossible to save money
[03:19] <flukej-walker> nice
[03:19] <flukej-walker> mostly goes to freakin gas prices
[03:19] <ubuntu_> I worked 46 hours and got a 184 dollar pay check
[03:20] <Riddick> wow, thats is not much
[03:20] <ubuntu_> 5.15 an hour
[03:20] <Riddick> that fica guy sucks  heh
[03:20] <obf213> that soooks
[03:20] <flukej-walker> thats barley legal
[03:21] <ubuntu_> thats mininum in arizona
[03:21] <Riddick> no, its legal   but how old are you / what kind of job is it?
[03:21] <ubuntu_> And for Waiters...
[03:21] <ubuntu_> in arizona its 2.13 an hour plus tips
[03:21] <Riddick> thats standard if you are a waiter that its 2.xx
[03:21] <buzzen> $2.13 an hour ?
[03:21] <buzzen> wow. thats like 1.40
[03:21] <flukej-walker> man.... ripped off
[03:21] <Riddick> waiter / waitress only get 2.xx because of the tips factor
[03:22] <flukej-walker> yeah, but alot of people don't tip
[03:22] <ubuntu_> Its not fair though that you have to live off peoples generousity
[03:22] <ubuntu_> And they tax your tips with your 2.13 an hour
[03:22] <Riddick> if you get minimum then you wouldn't expect tips     i personally wish waiters / waitresses got paid minimum since tipping has run amuck in the country    everyone expects a damn tip nowadays
[03:22] <ubuntu_> So if you make bank on tips, your check is gunna be shit haha
[03:22] <flukej-walker> i would have to slip a couple tens into my pocket
[03:23] <flukej-walker> yeah...did your resize finish?
[03:23] <soulrider> hi everyone =)
[03:23] <ubuntu_> If you work at a nice resturant where I live you'll walk out with 50 bucks a night
[03:23] <Riddick> but there are some waitresses / waiters that make / average 200 or more a night in tips
[03:23] <ubuntu_> I'm still on step one...
[03:23] <ubuntu_> When the snow birds come
[03:23] <flukej-walker> yeah, room service people get alot of tips
[03:23] <ubuntu_> Its gunna be like 150-200 a night
[03:23] <Riddick> i have some friends that worked in some busy places and they averged on bad nights 90
[03:23] <flukej-walker> like in the hundreds
[03:23] <Riddick> cash unclaimed
[03:24] <ubuntu_> I got an error and everything froze on the program
[03:24] <flukej-walker> oh.
[03:24] <flukej-walker> not good
[03:24] <ubuntu_> I can't read the error either..
[03:24] <flukej-walker> hopefuly your music is intact
[03:24] <flukej-walker> what all did you do?
[03:24] <ubuntu_> Of course it is...I gotta think positive
[03:24] <flukej-walker> just a resize?
[03:24] <ubuntu_> I just resized it then hit apply
[03:25] <flukej-walker> dang
[03:25] <Kr4t05> Wow, this logitech cordless mouse is so much lighter than the one I had before. :3
[03:25] <flukej-walker> try again, i guess
[03:25] <flukej-walker> i love wireless
[03:25] <ubuntu_> I would if I could close the god damn thing
[03:25] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: Yeah, my old set started losing signal, though, and fresh batteries didn't help. :/
[03:25] <Riddick> i got a new logitech bluetooth mouse today and its great
[03:25] <flukej-walker> Konsole pkill gparted
[03:26] <Kr4t05> The only Logitech product I have that doesn't work well with *nix is the webcam I bought recently.
[03:26] <ubuntu_> I got a cheap compaq mouse
[03:27] <flukej-walker> omg, I'm using a MS one now
[03:27] <flukej-walker> I should make it say Linux...
[03:27] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: :o
[03:27] <ubuntu_> Sugar cubes take off like company markings
[03:27] <ubuntu_> I took off LG on my cellphone with it
[03:28] <Kr4t05> It doesn't scratch the plastic?
[03:28] <ubuntu_> Nope
[03:28] <flukej-walker> i took the "Designed for Win XP" off my Laptop
[03:28] <ubuntu_> I read it off some blog
[03:28] <flukej-walker> just peeled it though, nothin fanct
[03:28] <ubuntu_> HardOCP posted it on there front page
[03:28] <Kr4t05> In that case, I'm going to rub the logos off my super keys
[03:29] <Kr4t05> Maybe I'll actually write "Super" on them. :P
[03:29] <ubuntu_> haha
[03:29] <ubuntu_> I didn't believe it either till I watched the guy do it on the video in his blog
[03:29] <ubuntu_> Then I tried it
[03:29] <flukej-walker> I need to replace my Windows flagish ones with Tux...
[03:29] <Kr4t05> I'm going to ask logitech to make a conversion kit for non-windows systems. :P
[03:29] <flukej-walker> i'm gonna try filling a computer with oil, while we're talking about stuff off blogs
[03:30] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: say what?
[03:30] <Kr4t05> Woah, newegg redisigned. :)
[03:30] <Kr4t05> Me like.
[03:30] <flukej-walker> i'm gonna build a plexiglass case and fill it with mineral oil
[03:30] <flukej-walker> mineral oil is dielectric
[03:30] <ubuntu_> that adds 10 years to your computer..
[03:30] <ubuntu_> jk
[03:31] <flukej-walker> doesn't short stuff out, but cools better than air
[03:31] <Kr4t05> Nifty.
[03:31] <Kr4t05> Would you just load the top with cooling fans?
[03:31] <ubuntu_> That would be crazy if it started to boil though
[03:31] <DaSkreech> How do I turn off rich text in kopete?
[03:31] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[03:31] <flukej-walker> then you could have fries with your computer
[03:31] <ubuntu_> Thats the only thying I hate about KDE is Kopete...
[03:32] <ubuntu_> thing*
[03:32] <flukej-walker> doubles as a deep frier
[03:32] <flukej-walker> i hate Konquer
[03:32] <flukej-walker> i wish firefox did file browsing
[03:32] <ubuntu_> Konquer I forgot about that little butthole too
[03:32] <buzzen> ubuntu_: but then you can run something else
[03:32] <Kr4t05> The cheapest external hard disk on here is $75 for 120GB...
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Can I do better?
[03:32] <buzzen> i like konqueror. except when i hit a page that makes it crawl
[03:32] <flukej-walker> i sometimes run dolphin
[03:32] <flukej-walker> its a file manager
[03:33] <ubuntu_> Have you guys used flock for web browsing
[03:33] <flukej-walker> i have
[03:33] <ubuntu_> I like how you can just access your photobucket like that from it
[03:33] <flukej-walker> not bad
[03:33] <flukej-walker> yeah, do they have a linux one yet?
[03:33] <ubuntu_> Flock is only for linux I think...
[03:33] <flukej-walker> i have it for Win
[03:33] <ubuntu_> Its for win too..
[03:33] <ubuntu_> Fuck yes
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: No, Windows and Linux (I think also for Mac)
[03:34] <flukej-walker> have you guys seen Songbird?
[03:34] <ubuntu_> Itunes little brother lol
[03:34] <timi> will someboyd open their /etc/rc6.d/ and tell me what the first three scripts are
[03:34] <flukej-walker> yeah lol
[03:34] <timi> please
[03:34] <ryanakca> anyone have a default sources.list kicking around? I need one for -classroom tommorow
[03:34] <ubuntu_> Nothing will take me away from amarok..
[03:34] <flukej-walker> same here
[03:34] <flukej-walker> Amarok forever
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !language
[03:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:35] <ubuntu_> When I use Gnome I use Quod Libet just cause I don't like mixing qt and gtk...
[03:35] <ubuntu_> I like it clean
[03:35] <timi> hey can somebody do me a favor and open /etc/rc6.d/ in konqi and tell me the first 3 scripts they have are
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: K01gdm, K01kdm, K01usplash
[03:35] <flukej-walker> it even plays my tunes from the days when i used iTunes...
[03:35] <magic-1> hi alls
[03:35] <timi> cheeseburger man. thanks
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :)
[03:35] <timi> im guess u have gnome and kde.
[03:35] <ge_deTuc> hi every one
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Yup.
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Argh
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Ignoring the gdm script, they are K01kdm, K01usplash, and K11anacron
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Someone jsut sent me a docx file. What do I do with it?
[03:36] <ubuntu_> resizing takes forever man..
[03:36] <flukej-walker> i know
[03:36] <timi> CheeseBurgerMan: this helps alot
[03:36] <flukej-walker> docx?
[03:36] <timi> mine are kdm usplash then halt
[03:36] <ge_deTuc> I'm about make the kernel update that had troubles recently
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaSkreech: docx is the format used by Office 2007
[03:36] <timi> thaqt probably explains why my computer hasnt been shuttind down correctly....
[03:36] <flukej-walker> which kernal was that?
[03:37] <DaSkreech> CheeseBurgerMan: I'm aware of that
[03:37] <magic-1> that they know of kubuntu 6.10 ??
[03:37] <timi> CheeseBurgerMan: can you tell me where your Halt is located
[03:37] <timi> err K10 halt
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: hold on a minute.
[03:37] <magic-1> some already it has proven the new version of kubuntu?
[03:37] <ge_deTuc> 2.6.15-26
[03:38] <flukej-walker> hmm
[03:38] <flukej-walker> i wonder if thats the kernal I just upgraded today...
[03:38] <ge_deTuc> what im talking about is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213420
[03:39] <flukej-walker> is that were it screws X?
[03:39] <ge_deTuc> don't know ... yet
[03:40] <ge_deTuc> the thing is that adept shows the kernel-image and the linux-restricted-modules packages ...
[03:40] <flukej-walker> i haven't added any other kernel stuff, so I think i'll be OK
[03:41] <ubuntu_> The new kernel update messes up X?
[03:41] <ge_deTuc> I dont know if I have to install kernel first and then the rest, or go in one step
[03:41] <flukej-walker> i don't think so, one did a while back, but they fixed it
[03:41] <ge_deTuc> I mean, do it all in one step, as any regular update
[03:42] <flukej-walker> thats what I did
[03:42] <flukej-walker> but I haven't restarted yet
[03:42] <ge_deTuc> a while back means ?
[03:42] <ge_deTuc> jeje
[03:42] <flukej-walker> it was two or three weeks
[03:42] <flukej-walker> ago
[03:42] <flukej-walker> i think
[03:42] <flukej-walker> all you did to fix it was update again
[03:42] <flukej-walker> not to bad
[03:42] <flukej-walker> just a little annoying
[03:43] <timi> hey can somebody check this file /etc/rc6.d/ and tell me where halt is located
[03:43] <Kr4t05> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822101010 <- Yes!
[03:43] <Kr4t05> Compatible OS: Windows 98/98SE/ME/2000/XP, Mac OS 9.x/10.x or higher, Linux Kernel versions 2.4 or later
[03:43] <Kr4t05> YAY!
[03:43] <timi> like at the end or w/e and can you tell me if its an S90Halt of K10halt
[03:43] <flukej-walker> I love the smell of new tech.
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: I have S90reboot
[03:44] <flukej-walker> and better yet, how clean it is
[03:44] <freewill> i just installed kubuntu 6.06(x86) and installed my drivers now i want to compile wine should i use gcc3.3 or 4??
[03:44] <ubuntu_> If I get the job at circuit city I'm gunna be rollin in new tech lol
[03:44] <ryanakca> anyone have a default sources.list kicking around? I need one for -classroom tommorow
[03:44] <flukej-walker> freewill: go with the newer one
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> !easysource
[03:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:44] <freewill> k
[03:44] <flukej-walker> unless it calls for something differant
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> ryanakca: You may be able to get that to give you a default one.
[03:44] <timi> Cheeseburger man
[03:45] <flukej-walker> freewill: are you new to linux, or just Kubuntu?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Yes?
[03:45] <timi> you dont have halt there at all?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Not in /etc/r6.d
[03:45] <ryanakca> CheeseBurgerMan: I don't want a source-o-matic one, unless they changed the default one to that since when I used dapper back in early august
[03:45] <timi> oooo. wierd i have it there. that could whts screwing up my shutdown
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> ryanakca: Sorry, I didn't realize they were different.
[03:46] <timi> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[03:46] <ryanakca> CheeseBurgerMan: Don't worry about it, sorry for snapping, btw
[03:47] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[03:47] <Kr4t05> I need to get XGL/Compiz working.. ><
[03:47] <ge_deTuc> I think I'm apt-get udating first
[03:47] <ubuntu_> I need a system that can actually run XGL/Compiz
[03:47] <ubuntu_> haha
[03:48] <flukej-walker> i need a server
[03:48] <ubuntu_> I have two Athlon MP 2600...
[03:48] <ubuntu_> And a MSI board for them
[03:48] <ubuntu_> Broken AGP slot though
[03:48] <Zamboulie> can someone help?
[03:48] <Zamboulie> i need to figure out how to install an audigy 2
[03:48] <flukej-walker> zs 2?
[03:48] <Zamboulie> i upgraded from onboard
[03:49] <Zamboulie> no its a value lol
[03:49] <Zamboulie> but its basically the same thing
[03:49] <flukej-walker> notebook?
[03:49] <Zamboulie> desktop
[03:49] <flukej-walker> ah
[03:49] <flukej-walker> I have a notebook
[03:49] <flukej-walker> should be about the same
[03:49] <Zamboulie> creative doesn't have linux drivers
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I heard you can softmod your audigy 2s to 4s..
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> ryanakca: Maybe this page? http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2006-January/001788.html
[03:49] <Zamboulie> :O
[03:49] <Zamboulie> how?
[03:49] <ge_deTuc> bye, hope to see you in a little wile
[03:49] <soulrider> is there a command to flush your rAM memory ?
[03:49] <ubuntu_> Google it...
[03:49] <soulrider> or somethign similar
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I read it on some website
[03:49] <ubuntu_> But I didn't go to the actaully website talking about
[03:50] <flukej-walker> Zamboulie: does ALSA recongnise it?
[03:51] <flukej-walker> Zamboulie: I guess a better question would be, does Kmix offer it as a mixer from the menu?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> How do I turn off rich text in kopete?
[03:53] <flukej-walker> DaSkreech: use Gaim
[03:53] <ubuntu_> Gaim doesn't look good in kde man..
[03:54] <Zamboulie> no
[03:54] <Zamboulie> its not in kmix
[03:54] <flukej-walker> dang
[03:54] <Zamboulie> i upgraded
[03:54] <Zamboulie> so it only recognises my onboard
[03:54] <flukej-walker> hmm
[03:54] <flukej-walker> Mine is PCMCIA
[03:54] <flukej-walker> so it might be differant
[03:55] <flukej-walker> !asound.rc
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound.rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <flukej-walker> have you restarted since putting it in
[03:56] <flukej-walker> ?
[03:56] <Zamboulie> yeah
[03:56] <Zamboulie> i am so mad at creative
[03:56] <Zamboulie> why cant they make drivers
[03:56] <flukej-walker> i imagine you put it in with the power off, but you never know, which the 'must get three years of uptime" people
[03:57] <Zamboulie> lol
[03:57] <Zamboulie> of course
[03:58] <flukej-walker> i guess you should try searching forums and stuff, as I have never messed with desktop sound before
[03:58] <Zamboulie> here we go
[03:58] <Zamboulie> http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1
[03:58] <Zamboulie> thats the program
[03:58] <Zamboulie> plz run it and help me install it
[03:58] <Zamboulie> somebody
[03:59] <flukej-walker> what is it?
[03:59] <Zamboulie> audigy 2 drivers
[03:59] <flukej-walker> hey, I really wish I could help, but real life is once again interfering
[04:00] <flukej-walker> so, I'll help if I catch you again
[04:00] <flukej-walker> Fluke Out!
[04:00] <Zamboulie> ok
[04:00] <Zamboulie> lol
[04:02] <Zamboulie> anyone else here?
[04:03] <ubuntu_> No.
[04:03] <chakal^-^> nas
[04:03] <cacahead> haha
[04:04] <KeeganX> Welp...I managed to resize my partition and install Kubuntu...
[04:04] <KeeganX> Mission accomplished
[04:04] <satempler> how do I set up daap
[04:04] <satempler> with amarok and ZeroConfig
[04:05] <KeeganX> With Krash it doesn't have everything enabled right?
[04:05] <KeeganX> Its just to see if you can run old KDE apps in it right?
[04:07] <Kr4t05> Bah...
[04:07] <Kr4t05> My system doesn't support bluetooth! Begone!
[04:08] <Zamboulie> well then get bluetooth
[04:11] <yoguess> can someone help me with mounting 2 partitions
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: use the mount command
[04:14] <ge_deTuc> everything worked fine, thank you unremembered nick
[04:14] <yoguess> i did
[04:14] <KeeganX> you fdisk to find the drive you wanted to mount?
[04:14] <larson9999> i have 3 tv capture cards here of different vintages.  my machine is an amd64 with 1 gb ram.  none of the pictures are worth a darn on the pc.  the same cable going into the pc is fine.
[04:14] <yoguess> "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3" right?
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: did you create a directory called /mnt/hda3
[04:15] <yoguess> yes
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: what type of file system is on the partition
[04:15] <yoguess> mkdir /mnt/hda3
[04:15] <yoguess> ext3
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: and in fdisk does hda3 show up as ext3
[04:16] <yoguess> another problem is in gparted, its showing that hda3 has 4 gb used
[04:16] <yoguess> but its supposed to be blank
[04:16] <yoguess> fdisk -l ??
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: I suspect your looking at the wrong partition
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: and the reason you can mount it because it already is mounted
[04:18] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: yes fdisk -l
[04:18] <yoguess> i could be looking at 1 wrong but i have 2 that needs to be mounted
[04:18] <yoguess> hdb1 is a whole drive ext3, and hda3 is last partition on drive 1
[04:18] <Xanith> Hi I have a installation question.. I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 2600, the installation gets so far and then it goes to a black screen with two grey squares and just freezes... Anyone ever heard of this?
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: what version of kubuntu
[04:19] <Xanith> Whatever the newest is, I just downloaded it last night for i386...
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: theres stable and unstable 6.06 is stable 6.10 is unstable
[04:20] <Xanith> kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: ?? why alternative
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: get desktop
[04:20] <Xanith> i thought desktop was basically a Live CD?
[04:21] <obf213> CheeseBurgerMan: that halt file was what was messing me up. so i deleted it and everything eas back to normal
[04:21] <yoguess> where is the link so i can pase the output of my konsole?
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> obf213: Yay!
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: no the live version has the "installer"
[04:21] <Xanith> ohh so I need the desktop iso?
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yes
[04:21] <Xanith> ok well i'll download that... i'm trying to convert from gentoo to kubuntu...
[04:22] <Xanith> i've heard kubuntu is much better
[04:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: the reason you get the live version is so you know its going to work before you click on the install icon
[04:22] <ubuntu> Hi dudes trying out the live cd, anyway to change tha language on the keayboard_
[04:22] <ubuntu> ?
[04:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: also dont use 6.10 its still work in progress
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu kcontrol
[04:23] <Xanith> Ok, Gotcha.. I'm just curious to try it out, I'm tired of gentoo... There's all the time compiliation troubles... and it's more of a hassle than its worth
[04:23] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu theres a keyboard language section
[04:24] <obf213> i have another minor problem
[04:24] <obf213> when i log in, the firs tprogram i open seems to freeze everthing
[04:24] <obf213> kind of
[04:24] <ubuntu> oooh that feels so good, finally a swedish keyboard, thanks man!
[04:25] <yoguess> Disk /dev/hda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[04:26] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:26] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:27] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:27] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:27] <yoguess> Disk /dev/hdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[04:28] <yoguess> "/dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   83  Linux"
[04:28] <yoguess> Linux Galore, thats my output of fdisk -l
[04:29] <obf213> when i click on shutdown/restart while im still logged in, i get two recantgles on the screen, that just stay there
[04:29] <obf213> then it shutsdown/restarts
[04:30] <obf213> whts wrong/ im guessing its an x problem, those recantagles always seem to indicate an xproblem
[04:30] <obf213> any ideas..
[04:31] <obf213> hey when you guys log in does it this irc channel does i tsay Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled)".
[04:32] <yoguess> nope
[04:32] <obf213> yogueess it doesnt say that in purple anywhere
[04:32] <obf213> after the wiki link
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> I see it in the topic.
[04:33] <obf213> ahh ok.
[04:33] <yoguess> ohh ok i see it too
[04:33] <obf213> i was wonderinf if my x was actually broken
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> obf213: I don't know if it's broken. THat' something you should know. :)
[04:34] <obf213> lol, i was just wondering why i twas saying that
[04:34] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:34] <coreymon77> hi
[04:34] <ubuntu_> is it possible to use the live cd to install things?
[04:34] <ubuntu_> onto your existing installation
[04:34] <ubuntu_> cuz my audigy 2 works on the live cd
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: then it should work after the installation.
[04:35] <ubuntu_> i already have linux installed
[04:35] <coreymon77> hi
[04:35] <ubuntu_> i upgraded after i installed
[04:35] <obf213> hey abattoir: when ive logged in like 20 of the last 30 times, the first thing i open freezes everything else, like if i open this first, then the desktop freezes, and the toolbar freezes, but konversation will work
[04:35] <ubuntu_> now i'm on the live cd and it loaded the drivers for me
[04:35] <ubuntu_> could i just install the drivers or something?
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_:That's quite strange. :|
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: I'm sure you can, but what package it is, I'm not sure.
[04:36] <ubuntu_> no i'm just not explaining it right lol
[04:36] <paul__> hi
[04:36] <coreymon77> hello
[04:37] <Martijn81> does anyone know if it's possible to cut an ogg audio file without having to re-encode it/
[04:37] <Martijn81> *?
[04:41] <Kr4t05> !info audacity
[04:41] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[04:41] <Zamboulie> i was on here a second ago about my sound card
[04:41] <Zamboulie> can somebody just help me install the drivers?
[04:41] <Zamboulie> it is like 4 steps but i dont know how do to it
[04:43] <Zamboulie> http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1/
[04:43] <yoguess> dapper and breezy are same??
[04:43] <Zamboulie> just open it and help me out with the few steps needed
[04:45] <kRaKoN> hi
[04:46] <Zamboulie> i have a cd that i labelled as the 64 bit version of linux
[04:46] <Zamboulie> but i think i named it wrong
[04:46] <Zamboulie> how can you tell if its 32 or 64 bit by looking at the contents of the cd?
[04:47] <Zamboulie> oh it says right on the cd lol
[04:47] <Zamboulie> ok i'm gonna go reinstall
[04:53] <token__> trying to do anything with apt-get fails with " failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `evolution': Input/output error"
[04:53] <token__> how can i fix this?
[04:53] <kRaKoN> i have no idea
[04:54] <token__> http://pastebin.ca/172436 here are more details
[04:55] <shadowr3d> hello everyone
[04:55] <shadowr3d> hows it going
[04:55] <shadowr3d> good i hope
[04:56] <tachyon> except me
[04:56] <shadowr3d> why
[04:56] <tachyon> i tried a Dapper install that failed miserably
[04:56] <shadowr3d> o
[04:56] <shadowr3d> sorry to hear that
[04:57] <tachyon> used a genuine shipped CD of 6.06 LTS on to a 500MHz celeron
[04:57] <Ghostz> how can i enable that "icon" that shows network traffic on kubuntu?
[04:57] <tachyon> no error messages during install (except it couldnt get past the proxy server)
[04:57] <tachyon> but i cant login!
[04:57] <shadowr3d> so how are you using konversation
[04:58] <tachyon> oh its on another machine
[04:58] <shadowr3d> did u try the recovery mode and try adduser
[04:58] <tachyon> I've never heard of that
[04:59] <shadowr3d> o its a way of hacking linux
[04:59] <tachyon> did you mean boot into the terminal?
[05:00] <shadowr3d> no
[05:02] <ubuntu> ok
[05:02] <ubuntu> one more question
[05:02] <ubuntu> is it possible to reinstall linux without formatting and all that?
[05:02] <ubuntu> so that you can keep your files?
[05:03] <tachyon> like OS X?
[05:03] <ubuntu> was that directed to me?
[05:03] <tachyon> yes
[05:04] <ubuntu> umm
[05:04] <tachyon> OS X can install "over-the-top"
[05:04] <ubuntu> i dunno
[05:04] <ubuntu> but is it possible?
[05:04] <tachyon> i dunno either
[05:04] <ubuntu> well ya
[05:04] <ubuntu> i wanna know if it can install over the top
[05:04] <notech> if /home is its own partition, don't let it format that and all user files/data will remain
[05:04] <word> [17187343.888000]  I/O error in filesystem ("sda1") meta-data dev sda1 block 0x28c10d30       ("xfs_trans_read_buf") error 5 buf count 8192 - any reasons why i should get that from a brand new hd?
[05:05] <ubuntu> what about packages?
[05:05] <ubuntu> i have XGL and stuff installed
[05:05] <notech> i don't know how well kubuntu handles an upgrade
[05:05] <tachyon> word: bad block on hard drive?
[05:05] <ubuntu> well it says just the swap is gonna be formattd
[05:06] <ubuntu> so how do i know where its gonna install?
[05:06] <word> tachyon: not sure..should i run badblocks on it?
[05:06] <ubuntu> i mounted the linux partition as root
[05:06] <ubuntu> should i do that?
[05:06] <tachyon> word- good idea to test it
[05:06] <ubuntu> will i still keep the files?
[05:06] <ubuntu> whatever i'll try it
[05:07] <notech> do a backup first
[05:07] <ubuntu> too late
[05:07] <ubuntu> lol
[05:07] <tachyon> what tools are there to image a linux hard drive?
[05:07] <ubuntu> oh
[05:07] <ubuntu> it won't work
[05:07] <ubuntu> i do need to format
[05:07] <tachyon> OS X wins!
[05:08] <ubuntu> pfft please
[05:08] <tachyon> ha ha
[05:08] <notech> i've only installed it once and rarely use it, someone else may know
[05:08] <tachyon> dont be touchy
[05:08] <Kr4t05> !dma
[05:08] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:08] <ubuntu> ooh
[05:08] <ubuntu> cool stuff
[05:09] <ubuntu> does windows have any stuff that boosts hd performance?
[05:09] <ubuntu> i use it for gaming
[05:09] <lotusleaf> ubuntu yes it does, it's format C: and it worked for me
[05:09] <tachyon> ubuntu: most linux people i've met have liked OS X
[05:09] <ubuntu> lmao!
[05:09] <ubuntu> os x and linux are based off the same thing
[05:10] <word> tachyon: it's not going anywhere :-/
[05:10] <Kr4t05> ubuntu: Try #windows for that info. :P
[05:10] <word> tachyon: stuck at 0
[05:10] <ubuntu> m'k
[05:10] <ubuntu> do you guys know why i'm formatting and reinstalling?
[05:10] <ubuntu> cuz i coudn't get the sound card to work
[05:10] <ubuntu> and in the live cd it does lmao
[05:10] <lotusleaf> ubuntu: "Microsoft DirectX killing innovation" http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=8556
[05:10] <ubuntu> wow whats this
[05:11] <tachyon> word- methinks you have a bad hd
[05:11] <word> seriously?
[05:12] <tachyon> good drives pass tests fine
[05:12] <word> I had one before spent a day in #hardware talkin with some people in there and they all came to the concl that it was bad...so i rma'd  it and got this one...and it's doing almost the same thing
[05:13] <ubuntu> so is everyone gonna use opengl now or something?
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> osx != linux
[05:13] <notech> try changing its cable
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> hardly bsd anymore
[05:13] <ubuntu> XGL = pwns vista
[05:13] <ubuntu> honestly though
[05:13] <word> notech: hmm..no other cables :-/ well...ya know...if that's the problem...i vow to spend an entire day staring down the defective cable..
[05:13] <ubuntu> directX 10 or openGL 2.0?
[05:14] <tachyon> word- you need to test it in another machine
[05:14] <ubuntu> dx10 wins this one
[05:14] <ubuntu> :(
[05:14] <ubuntu> can opengl do everything that directx 9 can do?
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> yeah dx10 wins because it has more games industry interest thus more $$$ behind it
[05:15] <Linux_Galore> opengl is better for big screen animation
[05:15] <lotusleaf> ubuntu give it time, I'm sure someone is working on something to challenge directx, but as FOSS
[05:15] <Linux_Galore> not so much for games
[05:15] <ubuntu> why don't more ppl program in opengl
[05:15] <ubuntu> i wanna game in linux too
[05:15] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu same reason people dont program for os2 anymore
[05:16] <notech> no money to back it.
[05:16] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu you go were the money is
[05:16] <ubuntu> aww
[05:16] <lotusleaf> ubuntu the game Prey works in wine ;)
[05:16] <ubuntu> :O
[05:16] <ubuntu> how does it look?
[05:16] <ubuntu> i had guild wars running one day and the shaders were messed up
[05:16] <Kr4t05> ubuntu: because, in linux, you need to program for all of the different configurations. ALSA, OSS, JACKd, etc. and that's just sound systems.
[05:16] <Kr4t05> Linux isn't "standard" enough.
[05:17] <notech> still wouldn't, very few would be willing to pay for linux games
[05:17] <lotusleaf> ubuntu try it for yourself with the prey demo
[05:17] <tachyon> Kr4t05: thats what people like about it
[05:18] <Kr4t05> tachyon: But, developers don't like it. Because, with that diversity from system to system, comes an enormous cost of programming to implement the diversity.
[05:18] <Kr4t05> With Windows, it's one API: DirectX.
[05:18] <tachyon> Kr4t05: also with OS X
[05:18] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: you still here?
[05:19] <Kr4t05> If the kernel crew could lay out a list of "recommended" guidelines for distros to use as a base for their structure, software developers would be more willing to program for Linux.
[05:19] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yes
[05:20] <Kr4t05> Rather than have distros wander willy-nilly without regard.
[05:20] <coreymon77>  !
[05:20] <Kr4t05> AcK!
[05:20] <coreymon77> hehehehehe
[05:20] <Xanith> Ok,I downloaded the Desktop ISO... it gets to a point where it just has the kubuntu logo and a blue bar... but no install button...
[05:20] <coreymon77> i love doing that
[05:20] <word> notech: just acquired another sata cable :D gonna test it out now.
[05:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: so you dont get to the desktop ??
[05:21] <Xanith> nope
[05:21] <Xanith> but its not froze... if i hit CLT+ALT+Backspace it shuts down
[05:21] <word> well maybe i should describe the problem  first...i can write to it fine 90 gigs plus in a row no problems.. transfering 1.5 gigs from it to my main hd 1.5 gigs in it stops functioning
[05:21] <Kr4t05> Point being, until there is a set standard for programmers to work by, there can be no real rise in the *nix game market.
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: did you search on www.google.com/linux  ie dell 2600 ubuntu laptop
[05:22] <Kr4t05> id is merely nice enough to adhere to open standards, because they rock,
[05:22] <Xanith> theres a google for linux?
[05:22] <word> tachyon: ever heard of that kind of thing before?
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yep
[05:22] <coreymon77>   !
[05:23] <Xanith> the only thing i see is something about downgrading the bios to A08
[05:23] <Xanith> which will be interesting seeing as i dont even own a floppy drive anymore lol
[05:26] <tachyon> word; no i havent used SATA on linux machines
[05:26] <SpAwN> !qemu
[05:26] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: Im poking around www.linux-laptops.net
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: if you can go into the bios and turn the plug and play and power management off
[05:30] <Xanith> ok i'll try that
[05:30] <Xanith> let me reboot
[05:34] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: there is no where on the bios to turn those off... im gonna try and figure out a way to get this bios on the laptop without installing windows xp to do it lol
[05:35] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yeah Im reading also the bios needs a partition on the hardisk , ouch
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: 2600 doesnt look like a Linux friendly laptop
[05:37] <Xanith> yea im noticing that myself
[05:37] <Xanith> but i want linux and i dont want to have to run it on my AMD64 system lol
[05:37] <Xanith> i have Vista on here... im kinda having fun playing with it at the moment
[05:37] <tbag> when is youtube gonna run on linux without sound delay???
[05:37] <Linux_Galore> get Linux with XGL, makes vista look like a side show
[05:38] <Linux_Galore> tbag: ?? I dont get a delay
[05:38] <Linux_Galore> tbag: then again I have flash 9 installed
[05:38] <Xanith> whats XGL?
[05:39] <tachyon> Xanith: more window dressing effects
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: adds effects to the GUI like transparency and shaddows and animated icons and menu's
[05:39] <tdog> hello everyone :)
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: also adds to your ram resources disapearing lol
[05:39] <tdog> newbie in the house.. please don't hate  me :)
[05:40] <tachyon> hi tdog
[05:40] <tdog> i need to install driver for my graphic card , NVIDIA .. i downloaded the driver, but no clue how to install
[05:40] <tdog> it is .run extension
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> we dont hate you... yet. :)
[05:40] <tdog> :(
[05:40] <tdog> thanks Dr willis
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> You may want to follow the  direction son the nvidia wiki page
[05:40] <tdog> :)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[05:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> and use the prepackaged ones.. Unless you know that you absoutely NEED the latest drivers..
[05:42] <tdog> prepackaged ones??? thats all i found .. as i said im new , and there are tons of different extension for linux :(
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> tdog,  you are thinking in windows terms.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> learn about how the package system works for kubuntu. :P  and become one with the 'apt-get'
[05:42] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: all ex-Windows users think in Windows terms :)
[05:43] <tdog> i guess. :).. i incountered about 6 different extension while was installing different programs
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  in the same way that Zombie-MUtant-lemmings - think in zomvie terms.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> extensions?
[05:43] <tdog> im EXWINDOW user  :)
[05:43] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: they know no other way
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure what you are doing.. but i bet  you are doing it the hard way.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:43] <tdog> lol
[05:43] <tdog> you right
[05:43] <tdog> linux is new to me
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> This is when it pays to spend a day just reading different web sites and guides.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> the 'zen' of linux. :P
[05:44] <tdog> this is my first install and i have a good graphic card but only generic driver installed for it
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> printing out man pages and reading them in the library.. (or bathroom)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> tdog,  it takes me about 3 min to get the nvidia drivers up and going on a new install.
[05:44] <tdog> i been , i been reading .. lol .. but have no idea what im reading  :)
[05:44] <tdog> well,
[05:44] <tdog> 3 days and still going
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> why worry about it at this time. :P you will get them going eventually. Its just a few apt-get commands.
[05:45] <tdog> now you talking jebrish with me
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> howeer the nvidia wiki does need a little work. its less then clear at some points.
[05:45] <tdog> :)
[05:45] <tachyon> is there a better site than www.filext.com
[05:45] <tdog> but im soo damn excited to get linux up and running
[05:46] <dek> tdog: check Adept
[05:46] <dek> it's easier than the console, for beginners
[05:46] <dek> there you can find a lot of software from repositories
[05:46] <tdog> adept ??? where can i find that ??
[05:47] <dek> Alt+Space and type "Adept"
[05:47] <dek> or in System Menu
[05:47] <tachyon> alt space does nothing for me
[05:48] <dek> don't you have Katapult installed?
[05:48] <tdog> it seems its installed
[05:48] <tachyon> what's Katapult?
[05:48] <tdog> woow .
[05:48] <dek> a VERY nice app of KDE
[05:48] <tachyon> is it like Spotlight in OS X
[05:48] <dek> with it you won't need icons in the desktop anymore :P
[05:49] <tachyon> it sounds like Spotlight
[05:49] <tachyon> is it in the standard repositories?
[05:49] <dek> yes I think
[05:49] <tdog> cool.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> There are some Kubuntu/Ubuntu beggiiner guides that you may want to check out also. :P
[05:49] <dek> but you should enable universe and multiverse anyway
[05:49] <tdog> im confused.. lol
[05:50] <dek> we all were at the beginning
[05:50] <dek> but IRC is so useful :P
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Linux tip #1 - when in doubt "THINK"
[05:50] <tdog> lol
[05:50] <tdog> thanks Dr
[05:50] <dek> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:50] <dek> always check that
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Linux tip #2 - when in doubt read and then "THINK"  about what you read.. even if you dont understand it now.. read stuff.. then rember it later.. so you get the big picture
[05:50] <dek> and the Wiki
[05:50] <tdog> damn microsoft been playing tricks with my mind
[05:50] <tachyon> Dr_Willis:  i have thought and read on the forums about my failed install, but i got no clues
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  'problem exists between keyboard and chair'  :)
[05:51] <tdog> lol
[05:51] <tdog> is true
[05:51] <tdog> how good a linux compare to window.
[05:51] <tachyon> not me :)
[05:51] <tdog> i know a few
[05:51] <tdog> but wondring , where is it heading
[05:52] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: "your session lasted less than 10 seconds"
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  X is crashing sounds like.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:52] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: instantly
[05:52] <tachyon> but why does the liveCD work, but not the installed OS?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> yep..  try 'startx' and see if ya get any good error messages
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> i would guess a issue with the xorg.conf
[05:52] <tachyon> startx & ?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> startx is the command to 'start x' from the console.
[05:53] <tachyon> no i mean, add the "&" ?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> wny bother. :P
[05:53] <tachyon> oh
[05:53] <tdog> i leave now , need to do some reading , once i know few big words, i be back to this irc. thanks for all your helps :)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> you can always go to a 2nd console if ya really want to.
[05:53] <tachyon> me? no i can only boot into the terminal
[05:54] <tachyon> there is no xsession
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  yes.. so use 'startx' from the terminal  (console) and see if any errors are shown
[05:54] <dek> gl tdog :P
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> there is no need to use gdm/kdm/XYZPDQdm at all. :)
[05:54] <tachyon> aha
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Linux FUNdamentals
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> startx will also read the .xinitrc file (MAKE ONE if ya want to) to decide what windowmanager and other programs to load.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> example .xinitrc file
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> 2 lines
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> xterm &
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> exec icewm
[05:55] <tachyon> oh yeah i remember now
[05:55] <Dr_Willis>  :)
[05:55] <tachyon> put .xinitrc in ~, right?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> if you dont have one it will use the system wide defaulg
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> its in your home dir . correct
[05:56] <tachyon> there is no need to make a .xession file?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> .xsession is used by some gdm/kdm entres i recall
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> ive never used one that i can rember
[05:56] <word> notech: i hope i don't jynx it...but i think the new cable did the trick..
[05:57] <tachyon> word: hurrah!
[05:57] <word> and i'm a mad of my word
[05:57] <word> i'll schedule sunday for staring down the defective cable
[05:57] <word> man*
[05:58] <tachyon> see, there is no .xsession file. Maybe i need to make one
[05:58] <tachyon> then it wont crash
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> i dont have one
[05:58] <tachyon> oh
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> and you are thinking in windows terms. :P
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> 'lets try somthing at random and hope it fix's it... '
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> did ya get some error messages in the console?
[05:58] <tachyon> no i think in macOS terms :)
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> macos people tend to think that   they are better then eveyone else.. because their pc's are so shiny.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> and their wallets are so empty
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> I got OS-X working on vmware yesterday
[06:00] <tachyon> cool
[06:00] <tachyon> pls lets forget about the money side of things
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> its sluggish.. but i actually think its faster then my real imac.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> My next 'new' machine will proberly be in the $300 range total.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> and this older one will become my UBER-file-server
[06:00] <ccherrett> I am try to get a 19" Wide monitor at 1440 x 900 but I can only get 1280 x 1024
[06:01] <ccherrett> I have set my modeline to Modeline "1440x900"  106.47  1440 1520 1672 1904  900 901 904 932  -HSync +Vsync
[06:01] <tachyon> uhh, Dr_Willis, thanks for the help but i cant try things out.. the box is at work
[06:01] <tachyon> i have made some mental notes
[06:01] <tachyon> (and written ones)
[06:01] <ccherrett> and my display subsection to SubSection "Display"
[06:01] <ccherrett>                 Depth           24
[06:01] <ccherrett>                 Modes           "1440x900"
[06:01] <ccherrett>                 ViewPort 0 0
[06:01] <ccherrett>         EndSubSection
[06:02] <ccherrett> still no 1440x900 :(
[06:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> wheeeee
[06:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> xgl+compiz
[06:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> imma happy person ^^
[06:03] <Healot> yay; system crash; very unhappy person :)
[06:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> nah, it auto-restarts
[06:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[06:04] <dek> ccherrett: check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <dek> maybe you can find your answer there
[06:06] <dek> :P
[06:09] <ccherrett> dek: no help there :(
[06:09] <dek> then I got no idea :P
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> i also often to go that x modeline generator web site to get my modelines generates
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> or use a live cd that happens to get it right.. and steal the info from their xorg.conf
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu is the first disrto ive had - that actually got my widescreen laptop display correct
[06:11] <lotusleaf> ubuntu for the win
[06:11] <Riddick> kubuntu did the same for my new 22" widescreen.  it set the size exactly to what it is.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sems that widescreen lcd's for the desktop are getting more and more common.
[06:12] <Riddick> macbook pro for my laptop and linux for my desktop machine   best of both worlds
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> rotate them so they are 'tall screens' :)
[06:12] <Riddick> yeah, and IMHO they are by far the best displays
[06:13] <Riddick> widescreen is good for side by side browsing or whatever not to mention the best for movie play back
[06:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> ok, xgl is too stable, i'm going to try and crash it
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> I got all these comic book files i need to read. someday.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> I need a nice tablet pc so i can read the comics heh
[06:13] <Riddick> heh
[06:14] <Riddick> the only way i would ever own a table would be if it were given to me   even then i would have to format it and put nix on it
[06:14] <Riddick> table / tablet i meant
[06:15] <kRaKoN> How do i set globals off on the php.ini with put editing it? I know there is a way to do it with "# php -i | grep globals" but that's to turn them on, what about to turn them off?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> I had my laptop sitting on its side so i could read the comic books. :)
[06:17] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: I am not getting this to work. I have tried the different modlines but no success:) can you post some of your xorg.conf?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> what video card ya got?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> nvidia?
[06:18] <tachyon> then he would have to kill you
[06:19] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: nvidia
[06:19] <tachyon> bye4now
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> http://usalug.org/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=25
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> is for my nvidia desktop machine with tv out
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> my widescreen box is an ati card and its way over there... :P
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> but i dident even have to edit that one.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:22] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: oh this has not 1440x900 in it
[06:22] <Linux_Galore> anyone got a howto on installing the ms core fonts in kubuntu
[06:22] <Linux_Galore> found one for ubuntu but the file is missing in kubuntu
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install the package
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> is all i ever did. should be the same for both k/ubuntu
[06:23] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: I have a couple of questions for u if u have a sec...
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> msttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !info msttcorefonts
[06:23] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[06:24] <ccherrett> could my diplay problems be the fact that I am not using the nvidia drivers?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> ccherrett,  i have had some machines that needed the nvidid drivers to get correct res.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> so i would say YES...
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> X is falling back to a failsafe lower res. is my guess
[06:24] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: any hints to get it running in kubuntu?
[06:25] <Linux_Galore> Dr_Willis: well I typed apt-get install msttcorefonts and it came back with nothing
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> insall the nvidia drivres first.. then start tweaking
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Linux_Galore,  you did set up the  Multiverse repo?
[06:25] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: do I get the drivers from nvidia
[06:26] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: I'm thinking of going ahead and installing kubuntu on my amd64 computer, but I just got a DVD-RW drive recently, and i'm just curious if you can still burn DVD movies and things like that on linux...
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[06:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <ccherrett> thanks
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> ccherrett,  ive installed them so many times - its a 3-10 min task. :)
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Xanith,   its possible.. but thees no nice -idiot-friendly tools/front ends out that ive seen yet.
[06:27] <Xanith> K3B doesn't have it integrated yet?
[06:27] <Linux_Galore> Dr_Willis: yeah multiverse is enabled
[06:27] <ubuntu> hello
[06:27] <ubuntu> I have a problem
[06:28] <ubuntu> kubuntu will only run in safe graphics mode
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Linux_Galore,  try 'apt-cache search msttcorefonts'
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> i always spell it wrong
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> you did update the apt repos after adding multiverse?
[06:29] <Linux_Galore> Dr_Willis: got it theres an error in sources.list
[06:29] <ryan__> is there a way to compleatly reformat a harddrive i screwed one of mine up in fdisk
[06:30] <Homer> anyone know why KDE wouldn't work unless in safe graphics mode?
[06:30] <Linux_Galore> Homer: graphics card issues
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ryan__,   you can easially refdisk and reformat a drive..
[06:30] <ccherrett> what is the command to launch synaptic from command line
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> what do ya mean by 'competely' however
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ccherrett,  synaptic
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:30] <ccherrett> oh :(
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> if ya got it installed.
[06:30] <ccherrett> haha
[06:31] <Homer> Linux_Galore: it's strange though, Breezy worked fine
[06:32] <dougmo> Well, I installed kubuntu ver 6.06 LTS. All seems to be OK so far.
[06:33] <Homer> Can I get into safe graphics mode if I install Kubuntu on my HDD?
[06:33] <ryan__> well here the problem i was trying to reformat from a ntfs file system to a ext3 or ext2 file system and my internet was down so i couldnt bring up any forums or anything. so i decided to just try to figure it out. that ow i learned how to do it in dos and now it only reads it as 800mb or so and its a 120gb disk
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ryan__,  'reformat to' - you mean convert? or erase the ntfs and lose all its data.. and use the new space as ext3?
[06:35] <ryan__> shure
[06:35] <ryan__> yeah
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> sure what? :P
[06:35] <ryan__> yes
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> dos's fdisk - is limited. use a live cd  tht comes with gparted. is the easiest fix.
[06:36] <USlvlC> or a seagate zero fill
[06:36] <Homer> Dr_Willis: Can I get into safe graphics mode if I install Kubuntu on my HDD?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Homer,  i would imagine so.
[06:37] <Homer> ok here goes nothing
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> cant say that ive ever needed to do so.. or can ever recall SEEING how to get into 'safe graphics mode' :P
[06:37] <Homer> :(
[06:37] <ryan__> i have gparted on my installed linux but i dont have any options ...i cant do anthing on that drive
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> i imagine safe graphics mode. is using the svga driver for X
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> is all there is to it
[06:37] <Homer> yeah
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> ryan__,  'a live cd'  is handy for such tasks
[06:38] <Homer> well apperently that is all the kubuntu supports out of the box on my laptop
[06:38] <ryan__> ok thanks
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> you dont want to run gparted on mounted drives. :P
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> or have a system crash due to other apps running
[06:38] <ryan__> it was mounted but i unmounted it befor i tryed to do anything with fdisk
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Ilike this 'latin' type music.. but i need english words. :P  so what catagory would that be, Heh
[06:40] <ryan__> ok im sorry i told you wrong when i go to gparted on the linux i have installed it just freezes up when i click on that drive
[06:40] <omar> hi guys , can I ask you how is the azureus
[06:40] <Homer> you know gnome and kde almost work identical these days
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Homer,  they are both converging nicely in many ways.. yet still keeping their differances. :P
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> drag and drop now seems to work from kde to gnome and visa-versa
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Homer,  what video card ya got in the laptop?
[06:41] <Homer> ATI x700
[06:42] <Homer> I'm overrriding my Ubuntu 5.10 with Kubuntu 6.06.1 right now
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> then when you install kubuntu you will want to follow the !ati wiki pages  :)
[06:42] <Homer> I hope I can get into safe mode
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> You may have better luck doing a clean install.
[06:42] <Homer> I am I'm using the CD
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Im still wondering where you even SEE a 'safe' mode thing at. :P
[06:43] <Homer> it was in boot options
[06:43] <OPP> i worship kubuntu
[06:43] <Homer> I'll try installing the properitary ati driver
[06:43] <OPP> it solved all my problems
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'failsafe' ?
[06:43] <Homer> it
[06:43] <Homer> it's called "safe graphics mode"
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> must be only on the live cd.. and tells x to use the svga driver then for x
[06:44] <Homer> there should be a way to do that via install :(
[06:44] <Homer> maybe a grub boot option
[06:44] <Homer> !ati
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> if you are on a real install.. you set up the drivers you NEED. :P
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> its that simple.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> the live cd's grub options get passed to the X configuration subsystem. i am guessing.
[06:49] <Homer> ok I'm going to see if it worked
[06:51] <teardrop`afk> what I really like about kubuntu is that it comes with an mp3 player
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> it does?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> never noticed. :P i tend to apt-get install xmms from the start
[06:55] <omar> guys how can hide files in kubuntu
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> define 'hide' :)
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> we talking porn? or just a few dirctories?
[06:58] <teardrop`afk> Dr_Willis: keep it pg
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> the standard way is for files beginning ith a . to be 'hidden' but its more where  the apps just ignore them.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> If you want to secure other things.. you can have an enrypted drive, or even files inside a loopback filesystem
[07:01] <teardrop> is kubuntu like a program that installs in windows?
[07:01] <teardrop> I installed it but I cant find it in the start menu
[07:02] <OPP> last night kubuntu saved my life
[07:02] <OPP> it was truly incredible
[07:03] <teardrop> does anyone know? I checked in C:\Program Files\ but kubuntu wasnt there
[07:03] <OPP> teardrop
[07:03] <OPP> lol
[07:03] <OPP> did you check system32
[07:03] <OPP> silly!
[07:03] <teardrop> OPP: let me check
[07:03] <OPP> k
[07:04] <Sir_Homer> d
[07:04] <OPP> if its not there
[07:04] <teardrop> OPP: I still cant find it
[07:04] <OPP> hmm
[07:04] <OPP> are you looking for the iso?
[07:05] <OPP> or the debian ripoff
[07:05] <teardrop> no, I installed kubuntu but I can't find it
[07:05] <OPP> i mean operating system
[07:05] <OPP> o
[07:05] <OPP> well
[07:05] <OPP> i dunno then
[07:05] <teardrop> I'm in windows but I dont see kubuntu in the start menu
[07:05] <OPP> ya
[07:06] <balld> Is there a new version of Kubuntu out that I don't know about? Last time I checked, you couldn't install it inside of windows
[07:06] <teardrop> kubuntu is just the new name for kazaa right
[07:06] <balld> lol
[07:06] <teardrop> what's funny
[07:06] <balld> You
[07:06] <balld> You're kidding right?
[07:07] <teardrop> I'm not kidding about the part that I cant download any music with kubuntu
[07:07] <teardrop> because it's not showing up in my start menu
[07:08] <OPP> i heard kubuntu is used with hacking or something
[07:08] <OPP> it uses linux hacks
[07:08] <hastesaver> teardrop, are you serious or trolling? (Although I realise this question is always pointless...)
[07:08] <OPP> not downladoing
[07:08] <teardrop> hastesaver: whats trolling?
[07:08] <teardrop> hastesaver: does that mean there's something wrong with how i installed it
[07:08] <OPP> no
[07:09] <teardrop> someone please help me, I really want to use this new version of kazaa
[07:09] <OPP> well
[07:09] <balld> Whew! Glad I remembered there was an ignore button
[07:09] <hastesaver> teardrop, ok, Kubuntu is an entire operating system (like Windows). It does NOT run under Windows. One can use it *instead of* Windows.
[07:10] <teardrop> hastesaver: LOL you got owned bud
[07:10] <hastesaver> teardrop, it has nothing to do with Kazaa. You are mistaken. Which is why everyone is confused
[07:10] <teardrop> hastesaver: I am an avid debian user
[07:10] <teardrop> nigga
[07:10] <OPP> kubuntu is good
[07:10] <OPP> i mean
[07:10] <teardrop> LOL
[07:10] <OPP> its a  nice word
[07:10] <hastesaver> teardrop, ok, great. But what reactions were you expecting anyway?
[07:10] <OPP> rolls off my tongue
[07:10] <teardrop> hastesaver: dunno its just funny
[07:10] <OPP> just like nigger
[07:10] <hastesaver> teardrop, This is not #debian, so flames are very infrequent :-)
[07:10] <dougmo> "It does NOT run under Windows" well you can under windows or windows under linux with VMWare or one of the other muliti OS progs.
[07:10] <teardrop> hastesaver: wutang clan
[07:11] <OPP> aint nothin
[07:11] <OPP> to
[07:11] <OPP> fuck
[07:11] <Lynoure> !language
[07:11] <teardrop> dougmo: no, just stop trying
[07:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:11] <OPP> wit
[07:11] <OPP> family friendly
[07:11] <OPP> kak
[07:11] <OPP> lets make cocaine cool
[07:11] <teardrop> does anyone want an invite to oink?
[07:11] <Homer> how do I reboot xwindows?
[07:11] <OPP> we need a few more half naked wonmen in the pool
[07:11] <jbandlirpa> I got a question
[07:11] <teardrop> Homer: /uninstall
[07:11] <balld> ctrl alt backspace
[07:11] <dougmo> I just put opp on ignore.
[07:12] <balld> you too?
[07:12] <balld> :)
[07:12] <OPP> wow hes so cool for saying that
[07:12] <teardrop> lol yah his father abused him as a child
[07:12] <OPP> ya
[07:12] <OPP> actually
[07:12] <balld> 2 ignores in 5 minutes
[07:12] <jbandlirpa> How do you find out what ethernet card you have? I need to DL drivers
[07:12] <OPP> lol
[07:12] <teardrop> jbandlirpa: stfu
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> dident abuse him  enough i think.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  lspci,
[07:12] <jbandlirpa> Excuse me?
[07:12] <teardrop> jbandlirpa: DID YOU TRY MANPAGES
[07:12] <OPP> he tried man-holes
[07:12] <jbandlirpa> Manpages?
[07:13] <OPP> hahahah
[07:13] <OPP> man eth0
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  or boot a live cd. and find one that makes it work.. the see what modules it loads.
[07:13] <teardrop> jbandlirpa: www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[07:13] <OPP> man ifconfig
[07:13] <OPP> nigga
[07:13] <OPP> man ifconfig
[07:13] <OPP> man ifconfig
[07:13] <OPP> read nigga, read
[07:13] <Lynoure> !ops
[07:13] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[07:13] <teardrop> ubotu: your one of the biggest fag bots ever
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your one of the biggest fag bots ever - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <OPP> LOOL
[07:13] <OPP> LOL
[07:13] <OPP> LOL
[07:14] <jbandlirpa> well my internet works w/kubunto but I had to downgrade my windows to w2k from xp and w2k dont seem to have a driver
[07:14] <teardrop> jbandlirpa: linux was the wrong choice
[07:14] <teardrop> jbandlirpa: go back to windows...this shit sucks
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> the lspci command shows all seen  pci devices
[07:14] <jbandlirpa> I have no problems with linux
[07:14] <jbandlirpa> lspci? type that in terminal?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> yes..
[07:15] <nalioth> teardrop: would you like to be next?
[07:15] <teardrop> jbandlirpa: no write it on a piece of paper
[07:15] <teardrop> nalioth: fuck you faggot fuck
[07:15] <teardrop> nalioth: your mother is a whore
[07:15] <dougmo> Nalioth: thank you!
[07:15] <jbandlirpa> wow this channel needs a mod
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  it has  ops.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> they are 'stealthed'
[07:16] <jbandlirpa> ok
[07:16] <jbandlirpa> I called bellsouth and told them internet works good on linux but not windows and they couldnt fig it out
[07:16] <nalioth> jbandlirpa: we have plenty of ops here
[07:16] <dougmo> Now that you've booted the trolls, can I ask some questions. I've used many flavors of linux but this is the first time I've set up Kbuntu full time on a machine's HD.
[07:16] <nalioth> they just don't wear their hats  :)
[07:17] <Lynoure> What a morning... Does anyone have problems I could help with? I'd love to do some good deed now
[07:17] <jbandlirpa> LOL
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> You called your isp - because your are having a windows driver problem? :)
[07:17] <Homer> ok my resolution is stuck at some screw up resolution
[07:17] <jbandlirpa> yes
[07:17] <Homer> 1024x768
[07:17] <Homer> my laptop supports 1200x800 widescreen
[07:17] <Homer> no option to change it to that
[07:17] <jbandlirpa> Is it possible that the modem was made after w2k came out ?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  considering how old w2k is... id say yes.
[07:18] <balld> Homer: Mine is running at 1200x800 out of the box
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  you are refering to a dial up modem rigth?
[07:18] <jbandlirpa> No ethernet
[07:18] <hastesaver> !fixres
[07:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:18] <Homer> balld: I have no drivers
[07:18] <dougmo> I figured out how to enable Adept's "universe". That was pretty simple. Now about apt-get. Can I use it instead and is there any Kubuntu related reason to do so. Some distros seem to think that synaptic and adept are shakier than apt-get though I'm not sure why.
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  then what does a modem have to do with it?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:19] <Lynoure> Homer: Not even under System settings -> Display?
[07:19] <jbandlirpa> well, its not the modem but the ethernet card I think is the problem
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,  they are front ends to apt-get..  no real problems doing it either way
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,   i mixx and match,  depeds on if i am sshing to the box. or at the  desktop
[07:19] <jbandlirpa> I have all 4 green lights on my modem when i go to windows
[07:20] <dougmo> Dr_Willis: K
[07:20] <jbandlirpa> but I cant look at any pages
[07:20] <Homer> Lynoure: nope, but I'm working on that
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  if your network card is not configured - it wont matter about the modem much at all.
[07:20] <wry> just configured my graphics card. Can anyone suggest some games that will do it justice? I've got chromium and ppracer (which didn't work until now), surely theres a bunch of other pretty games out there
[07:21] <jbandlirpa> windows keeps looking for a source to install the ethernet
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> logically - it sounds lik eyou need to go download the correct windows drivers for that network card.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> and yes windows can be very very dumb about network card drivers
[07:22] <Lynoure> wry: Enemy Territory seems to be popular
[07:22] <hastesaver> wry, which reminds me.. I've never been able to get ET to work. Probably because I don't have a graphics card. You could try it though -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Linux drivers tend to be based on the actual chipset on the card.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> trembulus is a nice game. but it makes me dizzy
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> tremulus
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> this is what linux says my ethernet is
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> what do I look up as far as a driver online
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> time to use google..
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> the 82562ez?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a good place to start. :P
[07:24] <jbandlirpa> Ok cool!, thx :)
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ya want us to enter google.com for ya next? :)
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> !google 82562EZ
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google 82562EZ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> darn
[07:24] <jbandlirpa> If ya wanna lol
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> no google bot.
[07:25] <jbandlirpa> brb
[07:25] <wry> thanx hastesaver I'll give it a go
[07:25] <wry> Any other suggestions guys?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> 'cube' only its got a new name now
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Linux game tome - check it out
[07:26] <hastesaver> wry, I loved Enigma; puzzle-solving and mouse skills :-) Not a graphics-intensive game though, so it's not what you asked. I just mentioned it.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> rocks n diamonds is my fav.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> slune - is fun also
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> xpilot for old-skool-killing
[07:29] <lol> XD
[07:30] <lol> I installed smtpd, and then uninstalled it, and now when I reboot I get sendmail script errors
[07:31] <lol> Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> use the --purge option when you uninstalled it?
[07:33] <lol> I don't think so
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> or just remove the services so it dont get started
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> or both. :)
[07:33] <lol> I believe I used adept at the time
[07:33] <lol> I just did something bad :( I removed a file in rc0
[07:33] <lol> (it was /etc/rc0.d/K19sendmail
[07:34] <ep> whats the difference between linux-k7 and linux-image-k7?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> trivial
[07:34] <cvt> how do i fix my k3b?
[07:34] <wry> okay the games is on their way cheers guys!!
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> cvt,  how... vague. :)
[07:34] <wry> now for a more technical question...
[07:34] <cvt> Dr_Willis,  what do you need?
[07:35] <hastesaver> cvt, what is wrong?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> ugh.. information. :P
[07:35] <ep> nevermind
[07:35] <cvt> hastesaver,  it just sits there. last time it sat for 12 hours
[07:35] <cvt> error 255
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> 255? thats an odd error #
[07:35] <cvt> i have 128mB ram 799mHz
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Ick. :P
[07:36] <wry> I've had probs with the sound in some avi files not syncing with the video, at first I thought it was just a dud file and then I bumped into another
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> wry,  mplayer and other players have a feature where you can  increse/decrease the video/sound sync differance..    that may be neeed. and yes it can be an annoying.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> it often depends on how/what codec the file is using
[07:37] <cvt> hastesaver,  i'm trying to burn an iso image
[07:38] <wry> DR W... any idea if either VLC or Kaffeine have  such a feature?
[07:38] <ryan_> does anyone know if flash player 8 is oun for linux yet
[07:38] <hastesaver> wry, it could also be that the decoding isn't happening fast enough. In that case, mplayer has this option of "framedropping" to maintain sync.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> wry,  i think vlc does.. but ive never used it.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> most of the stuff i watch are tv shows.. so the sync never gets noticeable
[07:39] <dougmo> After an instation of a program (gimp in this case) is there a way to make the menu auto-update without a reboot?
[07:39] <wry> DR W sounds like your suggesting I get mplayer
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,  it should show up.. theres some kde command that can force it to rescan.. but i cant rember it.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> wry,  i use all the players.. i often find video that dont pla y in one..but does another one
[07:41] <wry> yeah I just downloaded a ukulele techniques video... it's really annoying to try and use it without the sound in sync
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> ukulele? Egads!
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> well at least its not the Bagpipes!
[07:43] <unix_infidel> mind your words.
[07:43] <unix_infidel> warren buffet plays the ukelele
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> So did Tiny TIm.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> so did Greg Brady on that one Ep. where they were in Hawaii
[07:44] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: the guy from A Christmas Carol?
[07:44] <cvt> Dr_Willis, what information do you need?
[07:44] <dougmo> Warren Buffet also lives in a dumpy tract home, but this doesn't mean you should, if you don't want to.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,  Hes my neighbor :P
[07:45] <unix_infidel> man i wish there was a way to update firefox in linux like there is for windows.
[07:45] <unix_infidel> automatically installs and updates all the extensions and such.
[07:45] <dougmo> Oh, heck now I think I've inadvertently insulted Dr_Willis. Sorry!
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  use the 'klik' packages and install the latest for  your user. is one way
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: right. i'll get right on that.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  and my firefox does update the extensions
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: but i meant during the actual firefox update install.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> i mus thave 20 extensions loaded in the thing.
[07:46] <unix_infidel> it autochecks for extension updates.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. mine checks every time it starts up...
[07:47] <unix_infidel> heh, i only have about 5-6
[07:47] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: right, that's fine, but what about when you update?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> you need an extension updater-updater!
[07:47] <wry> and so do I (play ukulele)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> i never worry about updating.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :) it will get updated in 6 Mo.
[07:47] <unix_infidel> i tried learning the guitar.
[07:47] <unix_infidel> didnt work out that well.
[07:48] <wry> check out jake shimabukuro and you'll get a new perspective on uke (his cover of while my guitar gently weeps is the shit!!)
[07:49] <wry> Dr W  from what?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:50] <wry> ??
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Now the Accordian! now thats an intrument you can be proud of!
[07:50] <dougmo> getting ready to run firefox 2 beta 2. I like the inline spell checker.
[07:50] <unix_infidel> learning to spell is much more rewarding.
[07:50] <wry> Absolutely!!
[07:50] <dougmo> learning to spell? Never happen.
[07:50] <wry> But then I'm a folky!
[07:51] <unix_infidel> kids nowadays.
[07:51] <unix_infidel> they barely know how to spell curse words.
[07:51] <cvt> what are some alternatives to k3b?
[07:51] <dougmo> (grumbles about youngsters who are just babes in arms calling me a kid(
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> http://www.myspace.com/weirdal
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:51] <cvt> for burning iso images
[07:51] <Philip5> unix_infidel: you mean words like !"%&%#! :)
[07:51] <unix_infidel> keep a PDA with them just so they can do google ---> define: (*&%^
[07:52] <unix_infidel> while their tagging down main street.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> they're*
[07:52] <Homer> hey
[07:52] <Homer> I can't get my video driver working still ><
[07:52] <Homer> !ati
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <dougmo> firefox beta started painlessly.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> ati can be a real real pain
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> cvt,  could alwyas use the cdrecord command line tool
[07:54] <unix_infidel> i just use nero on a win box :P
[07:54] <unix_infidel> just vnc :)
[07:58] <wry> DrW I gots mplayer now. How do i change the sync? Had a quick browse through the options, it's nowhere obvious so I thoiught I'd ask you.
[07:59] <dougmo> I think at least for now Dr_Willis has gone.
[08:00] <wry> ah... so I see! Nuts!!!
[08:00] <wry> anyone else know how to change the audio video sync in mplayer?
[08:01] <cvt> how do i burn an iso image on my desktop to cd with  cdrecord?
[08:01] <draik> cvt, use k3b
[08:01] <cvt> draik,  i can't get it to start to burn in k3b
[08:02] <draik> is k3b a broken install for you?
[08:03] <Lynoure> cvt: googling for   iso cdrecord burn   or just   man cdrecord  might get you started
[08:06] <cvt> draik,  i'll try that
[08:07] <draik> cvt, ok. Good luck
[08:07] <Homer> WOOT
[08:07] <Homer> finally got the crappy ATI drivers to work
[08:08] <Homer> too bad they are 32 bit
[08:08] <draik> at least its something
[08:09] <Homer> yeah
[08:10] <Homer> opengl inited fine
[08:10] <Homer> whats that tux racer game
[08:10] <Homer> the new one
[08:12] <Homer> !limewire
[08:12] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:12] <mbsw> hello new here just loaded the operating system
[08:12] <Homer> !frostwire
[08:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:12] <Homer> God I love this package manager
[08:12] <mbsw> what is it?
[08:13] <Homer> adept
[08:13] <cvt> i reinstalled k3b and it still doesn't burn my iso image
[08:14] <cvt> i get no error message and it just sits there for hours
[08:14] <cvt> what do i do to burn?
[08:15] <mbsw> did you chose the right burner?
[08:15] <Homer> what is a Qt based OSS gnutella p2p client
[08:15] <Homer> or rather any p2p client
[08:16] <mbsw> with fedora core 5 I had no trouble with K3B
[08:16] <cvt> mbsw,  i chose burn cd image
[08:16] <mbsw> sounds like lime wire
[08:17] <mbsw> where did it go from there cvt?
[08:17] <mbsw> did it give you an options menu?
[08:17] <|lostbyte|> cvt, click on debug info, and see where it stops..
[08:17] <cvt> mbsw,  it says elapsed time 12:15:15 h, 0% overall progress, etc.
[08:18] <mbsw> that's a long hang time
[08:18] <cvt> i've never had an iso take near that long to start
[08:19] <mbsw> what version of linux are you running?
[08:20] <cvt> i don't really know b/c after i thought i installed dapper latest k menu still says breezy 5.10
[08:21] <Homer> how do I rename a file via console
[08:22] <tbag> you can use the "mv" command
[08:22] <tbag> mv [yourfile]  [newfilename] 
[08:23] <mbsw> I was just looking at my options here I just loaded this system on (ubintu 6.01) I was looking for mabe a different burner program to try
[08:23] <mbsw> none found
[08:24] <mbsw> I wounder if you tried burning files or music do you still have the same problem?
[08:24] <hastesaver_> mbsw, what? There is k3b, gnome-baker (or something), nautilus-cd-burner, xcdroast, ...
[08:25] <mbsw> not on mine at this time
[08:26] <mbsw> but those are all good suggestions for cvt
[08:26] <mbsw> thanks hastesaver
[08:29] <mbsw> I just noticed my spelling earlier ( the brandy is taking effect)
[08:30] <mbsw> you still there cvt?
[08:30] <cvt> yes
[08:31] <mbsw> anthing help?
[08:31] <cvt> same problem with all cd's
[08:31] <mbsw> bummer
[08:31] <cvt> i'm going to try those other apps above
[08:31] <mbsw> cool
[08:31] <mbsw> hope they work for you
[08:31] <cvt> ty
[08:32] <cvt> error message in  k3b finally:
[08:32] <cvt> Wrong medium type
[08:32] <mbsw> using cd or dvd?
[08:32] <cvt> cd on a dvd/cd burner
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> cvt: cdrecord -v dev=/dev/cdrom image.iso speed=20
[08:33] <mbsw> have you upgraded the firmware on the burner?
[08:33] <cvt> mbsw,  no
[08:34] <dougmo> argh. trying to install a deb driver for my printer. OK what to do next?
[08:35] <mbsw> when all else fails then try that
[08:35] <mbsw> last resort
[08:35] <JohnFlux> dougmo: hey!
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> dougmo, follow the guide it came with..
[08:35] <Homer> whats a good way to organize music on linux
[08:35] <JohnFlux> dougmo: i think you should just be able to use it now from the system control
[08:35] <Homer> can I make a dir in the root dir?
[08:35] <Homer> or should I save my music in my home directory?
[08:36] <cvt> |lostbyte|,   no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder
[08:36] <mbsw> home
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: personally I have it in /mnt/raid
[08:36] <Homer> but then only my acct can listen to it right
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: where I have a raid system
[08:36] <cvt> |lostbyte|,  it's brand new too
[08:36] <mbsw> don't screw with root
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: there's not really a good solution
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: i often put things in root :P
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> cvt, replace /dev/cdrom with the device.
[08:37] <mbsw> lostbyte is on the right track
[08:38] <tbe1985> Does anyone know yet whether KNetworkManager generally hangs at 28% on its own, or if the wireless device is using ndiswrapper?
[08:39] <|lostbyte|> tbe1985, device and model ?
[08:39] <ge2x> do firefox plugins work in konqueror?
[08:39] <Homer> ok OGG plays fine
[08:39] <Homer> how do I get MP3 to work
[08:40] <cvt> |lostbyte|,  how do i determine the path name?
[08:40] <Homer> without easyubuntu btw, I can't get that thing to do anything
[08:40] <tbe1985> The dreaded Broadcom wireless card in a Pavilion zv5000 series
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> Homer, in ?
[08:40] <Homer> in kde :)
[08:40] <Homer> amaork etc
[08:41] <mbsw> any Alaskans here?
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> cvt, whats your drive name ?
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> cvt, which company ?
[08:41] <cvt> atapi
[08:43] <tbe1985> Wireless works without a hitch with wlassistant, great speed and range, but networkmanager halts and so far no fixes in the forums :(
[08:43] <|lostbyte|> Homer, install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and libxine-extracodecs
[08:43] <cvt> bbl
[08:45] <Homer> thanks
[08:45] <Homer> but I actually got it working with easyubuntu
[08:46] <Homer> libdecss is for some reason missing the the apt sources and it screwed everything else up
[08:49] <bluesclues> sweet
[08:50] <h1234> if i install windows on mbr and install kubuntu on its root directory ie grub on root directory then will kbuntu boot on start up
[08:52] <Raul12> help any 1
[08:54] <Raul12> any help
[08:54] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, i dont think so.
[08:55] <Raul12> then what 2 do
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> unless you tell ntloaded where grub is.
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, Put grub in mbr.
[08:56] <Raul12> but i have 3 linux os and that is diffcult to boot if any 1 of then is reinstall
[08:57] <Raul12> any ideas
[08:57] <Raul12> ^_^
[08:58] <Homer> shouldn't "sudo apt-get install koffice" work?
[08:58] <Homer> it worked but it didn't seem to add any icons
[08:58] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, tell any of the 3 linux with has grub or lilo, to boot all three distros.
[08:58] <Raul12> cusmon isnatall icons
[08:58] <Raul12> install
[08:59] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, have a look in .. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:59] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, and you will get an idea how it really works.
[08:59] <Raul12> but if windows reinstall then again i have to rewrite the grub
[09:00] <Raul12> ok
[09:00] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, yes. you have to rewrite the grub.
[09:01] <dougmo> bummer, this driver requires you to use cups admin to set it up. and the cups driver is insisting on a root user and password. How to do that?
[09:01] <Raul12> hmm
[09:01] <Raul12> thanks 4 tips |lostbyte|
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> np ;)
[09:05] <jmichaelx> if a person is configuring network/internet access, and a GUI  askes for "workstation name", would anyone know what it would be looking for?
[09:07] <notech> jmichaelx: any name, its a hostname
[09:07] <ajus> is there anyway i can make .sh shortcut in desktop.. and click it to run it?? help pls
[09:09] <jmichaelx> ok, i am trying to get net access with a mini-linux distro, and it is not detecting my nic, apparently
[09:09] <notech> ajmitch: and how would it know what filename.sh it was to run each time?
[09:09] <notech> grr
[09:09] <notech> ajus:  and how would it know what filename.sh it was to run each time?
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> ajus, rightclick > create new > link to application.
[09:10] <ajus> i have a wengo.sh and i want to click it to use.. instead of typing in terminal
[09:10] <dougmo> totally strange, the driver refused to work from the KDE printer control untill I futzed with the cups admin configuration. That bombed but now the laser printer did configure correctly from the KDE control panel. It works but why is a mystery to me.
[09:10] <intelikey> no. i'm not really here.
[09:11] <notech> oh, i see. didn't realize it was for one particular file
[09:11] <ajus> so.. like lostbyte said??
[09:11] <cam_> hello all I was having an issue while installing automatix...can some kind soul help me out a bit?
[09:12] <notech> ajus: worth a try, he may know better than me. i don't use kde
[09:12] <ajus> ok.. i'll tr
[09:12] <NeoSaki> anyone know how to get links in other programs, like xchat to launch firefox?
[09:13] <notech> NeoSaki: depends on xchat version, i think it differs. ask in #xchat cuz it can be done
[09:13] <ajus> lostbyte, notech, it's working great... TXH
[09:13] <dougmo> xchat to launch firefox?, right click then look at the options
[09:13] <ajus> THANKS
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, enable kclipper in kicker
[09:13] <intelikey> NeoSaki look into the preferances in the app
[09:14] <|lostbyte|> klipper
[09:14] <notech> dougmo: oh, didn't know kubuntu's xchat had it by default
[09:15] <dougmo> by default, Don't know that I haven't ran the kunbuntu xchat ver yet. I do know that it does from any other version of xchat I've ran.
[09:15] <notech> dougmo: oh, i've ran a version that had mozilla but no xchat.
[09:16] <notech> err, mozilla but no firefox
[09:17] <intelikey> also of note   /usr/bin/x-www-browser  can be set.
[09:18] <cam_>  was having an issue while installing automatix...can some kind soul help me out a bit?
[09:18] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, right click in this xchat > settings > advanced > url handelers :)
[09:18] <intelikey> cam_ yes.
[09:18] <NeoSaki> I don't see the advanced?
[09:18] <cam_> all was going well
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, i am on 2.6.1
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, I am on drapper drake.
[09:19] <NeoSaki> nvm got it
[09:20] <cam_> untill I got to the end, i followed the directions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294 and when I was done it said automatix wasn't there :(
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, And if you want it Globaly, for other apts too, do like i said above.
[09:21] <cam_> I also got a "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." error somewhere along.
[09:21] <intelikey> cam_ use http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php/Automatix_for_Kubuntu
[09:21] <NeoSaki> i forget, how do you send a link to firefox via commandline?
[09:23] <|lostbyte|>  mozilla-firefox google.com
[09:25] <tbag> i am having trouble with cups web interface
[09:25] <tbag> anyone can help me?
[09:25] <cam_> would I be installing http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/kubuntu/main/binary-i386/automatix-kubuntu_6.5-1-6.06dapper1_i386.deb?
[09:25] <cam_> if so I assume I save it and open it somehow, but how and with what?
[09:26] <intelikey> use   sudo dpkg -i automatix-kubuntu_6.5-1-6.06dapper1_i386.deb
[09:26] <Blaat_> why does ark keep whining about not enough disk space? the disk im extracting to has more then enough space available
[09:26] <intelikey> to install it after the down load
[09:27] <sallychung> hey
[09:27] <sallychung> can someone help me
[09:27] <sallychung> with sound
[09:27] <sallychung> i cant get any sound
[09:27] <sallychung> from amarok
[09:27] <sallychung> or any of the players
[09:27] <intelikey> /beep
[09:28] <cam_> ok
[09:29] <cam_> it's saying :Selecting previously deselected package automatix.
[09:29] <intelikey> sallychung konsole   alsamixer
[09:29] <cam_> it's back at the #...whats next? Is that it?
[09:29] <intelikey> it's installed
[09:29] <cam_> there was no confirmation...
[09:30] <cam_> ?serious!
[09:30] <Hastesaver> sallychung, is it just mp3s or other sorts of files? And do other apps produce sound?
[09:30] <cam_> lol, how do I check?
[09:30] <sallychung> system soundswork
[09:30] <sallychung> im tryin to stream
[09:30] <intelikey> cam_ use it
[09:30] <cam_> is there a command? I'm sorry for being such an uber n00b
[09:30] <intelikey> cam_ learn tab completion in the CLI
[09:31] <intelikey> auto[tab-key] 
[09:31] <intelikey> maybe two tabs
[09:31] <sallychung> wat should i do in alsamixer
[09:31] <intelikey> auto[tab-key] +[tab-key] 
[09:32] <intelikey> sallychung are the volumes all up somewhat ?   anything muted ?
[09:32] <cam_> I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean..."CLI"?
[09:32] <intelikey> command line interface
[09:32] <intelikey> !cli
[09:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:33] <cam_> duh! Ok...
[09:34] <sallychung> ok everything is unmuted
[09:34] <NeoSaki> <3 Yakuake
[09:34] <intelikey> sallychung any sound ?
[09:34] <bluesclues> whenever i shut down when im logged in, i gett a black screen w/ two rectangles then the computer shuts down after about 20 seconds or so
[09:35] <bluesclues> why i am i not gettin gmy usplash. is this prblme with xserver or soemthing
[09:35] <bluesclues> if i shut down from kdm its normal however
[09:36] <sallychung> no sound
[09:36] <intelikey> sallychung konsole; cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp       use ^C   that's  "control C"   to stop it.
[09:36] <intelikey> should be white noise
[09:38] <intelikey> that step is a hardware test  if it fails check the speeker/power/wires
[09:38] <sallychung> nothing
[09:38] <sallychung> no sound
[09:38] <Hastesaver> intelikey, /dev/urandom has better results
[09:38] <intelikey> Hastesaver you say
[09:39] <sallychung> ye i think i am deaf now
[09:39] <sallychung> thanks hastesaver
[09:39] <cam_> it's installed!Thank you so very  much. I was going insane messing with this! inlikey you're guru of gurus!
[09:39] <Homer> amarok is hot
[09:39] <sallychung> ok... intelikey... i got noise... from urandom
[09:40] <sallychung> wats next?
[09:40] <Homer> I'm happy I finally got this linux system working flawlessly
[09:40] <intelikey> it's in your kde settings or application settings make sure that the app is outputing to " alsa "
[09:41] <Hastesaver> sallychung, are there other apps that make sound? Are there any files that Amarok plays at all?
[09:41] <intelikey> sallychung ^
[09:42] <intelikey> we didn't do all this to find that it's an mp3 that isn't working did we  ;S
[09:42] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <sallychung> im tryin to get stream
[09:42] <sallychung> internet radio
[09:42] <sallychung> shoutcast...
[09:42] <Homer> !xgl
[09:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:42] <sallychung> im not sure if other mp3's play
[09:42] <sallychung> i dont have any files on this hdd
[09:43] <sallychung> there are system sounds
[09:43] <sallychung> on amarok and xmms... there is a sign that its streaming...just no sound
[09:43] <intelikey> !mp3 > sallychung
[09:44] <sallychung> wat??
[09:44] <ketsugi> How can I turn on font antialiasing for my Gnome apps?
[09:44] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:44] <intelikey> sallychung ^
[09:44] <intelikey> that
[09:46] <Hastesaver> sallychung, it may be something wrong with mp3s, or something wrong with streaming, or something wrong with Amarok. We have to first find out which. So download an mp3 from somewhere, and test whether Amarok plays it first.
[09:47] <sallychung> maybe the question i should ask is....wats the best player to use for streaming
[09:48] <Hastesaver> sallychung, if Amarok works, it's the best, of course :-)
[09:48] <sallychung> haha
[09:48] <sallychung> ok
[09:48] <sallychung> let me get a mp3
[09:48] <intelikey> no.    best is subjective and starts fights.   what is a good player would be a much better Q
[09:48] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:48] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:49] <intelikey> there's a list of good ones ^
[09:50] <Hastesaver> intelikey, nice. But why !vlc? ...
[09:50] <Hastesaver> !amarok
[09:50] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[09:50] <intelikey> any more questions ?
[09:50] <TheFuzzball> is there a channel where people talk about flash on linux?
[09:50] <intelikey> :)
[09:51] <flaccid> TheFuzzball: #osflash
[09:51] <Hastesaver> intelikey, why is !vlc set to a general list while !amarok is set to something specific? :-)
[09:51] <TheFuzzball> flaccid: thanks
[09:51] <intelikey> TheFuzzball ##linux is pretty open to that sort of thing
[09:51] <Homer> soooo
[09:51] <sallychung> haha...wat app can i use to download music lol
[09:51] <Homer> what is a good program under linux to get "fair use backups" of music? :p
[09:52] <Homer> sallychung: lol
[09:52] <Shadow850031> hello everyone
[09:52] <intelikey> Hastesaver cause the bot owner or one of the mantainers don't care much for vlc    "vlc is not the 'default' so always point them to the default"  it's the *buntu way.   it sux but it's the *buntu way.
[09:53] <Hastesaver> sallychung, get a public domain mp3 from the web. Try Creative Commons or something, not something illegal :-)
[09:53] <Shadow850031> I have problems installing Kubuntu on my system. Can anyone help me?
[09:54] <intelikey> the general attitude is; it's default, therefore it's "BEST".    but there again "every mama crow's little crow, is always the blackest crow"
[09:55] <Shadow850031> When I should see KDE, I only see... well... quite collorful and chaotic view
[09:56] <Shadow850031> and I cant even to launch the installation since it is launched using icon when live cd starts
[09:56] <voicu> Shadow850031: you can install using the text mode
[09:56] <intelikey> Shadow850031 reconfig X and don't use vesa use the driver for your card
[09:57] <Shadow850031> how can i do this?
[09:57] <Shadow850031> i have shipped Kubuntu cd recently
[09:57] <Shadow850031> all I need is to know ho to install system in text mode
[09:57] <intelikey> Shadow850031 console: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      then restart X
[09:58] <intelikey> there is no test mode install on the live CD
[09:58] <voicu> oh, sorry, i thought you had the dvd...
[09:59] <cam_> intelikey, so far so good,everything seems to be installing...
[09:59] <intelikey> cam_ you're welcome
[09:59] <Shadow850031> thanks, I'll try
[09:59] <cam_> I'm crossing my fingers, thank you!
[10:01] <intelikey> cam_ out of curiosity, what are you using automatix for ?    i've never used it...
[10:01] <lupine_85> the Ubuntu equivalent of Hari-Kari? ;)
[10:01] <intelikey> lupine_85 lol
[10:01] <cam_> ...I wanted to painlessly install mp3, dvd...flash...
[10:02] <lupine_85> no, hari-kari is not painless.
[10:02] <intelikey> hari-kari 101
[10:02] <cam_> a few appz. automatix is pretty new to me, I used SUSE for a while...
[10:03] <lupine_85> ah, well, unlike SuSE, Ubuntu has a sane and fast packaging system
[10:03] <lupine_85> 5 minutes of googling and 10 minutes of repo-leeching, and you're done
[10:03] <cam_> I recently got an old Dell and some RAM and decided to try Kubuntu, I have it on a seperate HD and Xp on the other.
[10:03] <lupine_85> no need for a bucket, either
[10:03] <intelikey> lupine_85 yeah that i always seem to break
[10:03] <cam_> yeah SUSE sucks for that...dependancy hell :(
[10:04] <lupine_85> SuSE depends on RPM... that's the biggest Hel there is :(
[10:04] <intelikey> i've had more nightmares with dpkg in one year than i did in the previous 5 with urpmi
[10:04] <cam_> well sucks is a harsh, but i hate RPM's with a passion, there was always something breaking or messed up
[10:04] <Hastesaver> lupine_85, what's the Googling for?
[10:04] <lupine_85> finding the appropriate repos for what you want to do.
[10:05] <lupine_85> e.g. "wmv 9 in ubuntu"
[10:06] <Hastesaver> sallychung, still here?
[10:06] <Hastesaver> lupine_85, I thought !easysource was a pretty exhaustive list
[10:06] <intelikey> and all the broken dpkg errors were with the default repos
[10:06] <lupine_85> never heard of it :)
[10:06] <Hastesaver> lupine_85, I meant http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:07] <Arepie> !firefox
[10:07] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:07] <sallychung> ye
[10:07] <sallychung> im here
[10:07] <sallychung> im tryin to get some file lol
[10:07] <cam_> I used to always have issues with Firefox on SUSE i switch to Opera, hopefully when I'm done FF will work correctly.
[10:08] <Hastesaver> sallychung, lol. Try downloading http://ff123.net/samples/BlueEyesTrimmed.mp3 and playing it
[10:08] <intelikey> ff is way to heavy for my tastes
[10:09] <Hastesaver> intelikey, how come? I've never had any dependency hell...
[10:09] <intelikey> i didn't say anything about deps
[10:10] <Arepie> !flash64bit
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash64bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <Arepie> arghhh..
[10:11] <intelikey> Hastesaver i've had apt/dpkg fubar'd about five times in a year.  only fix i could manage was a full reload.
[10:11] <Hastesaver> intelikey, oh... and what were you trying to do? (So that I can avoid it ;-)
[10:13] <intelikey> just install some apps.   too many at one time broke it one time.   i'm not sure about the other four times.  oh yeah  one time it was an error in some post/pre/remove/install scripts  they are set to #!/bin/bash  which cant work unless bash is installed and configured so you cant install bash cause dpkg is hosed.....  things like that.
[10:13] <sallychung> ok
[10:13] <sallychung> no sound
[10:15] <intelikey> package builders should know that #!/bin/sh is posix compliant  but #!/bin/bash is not.  anything that uses bash should depend on bash
[10:16] <intelikey> dpkg does not depend on bash.  so that breaks posix
[10:16] <fdoving> are you using edgy=
[10:16] <fdoving> ?
[10:16] <intelikey> fdoving addressing whom ?
[10:16] <fdoving> you.
[10:17] <intelikey> no just answering a question
[10:17] <intelikey> ranting a little    i guess
[10:17] <fdoving> ok, what you say is not true for pre edgy releases.
[10:17] <intelikey> excuse me ?
[10:17] <Hastesaver> sallychung, try playing /usr/share/example-content/ubuntu\ Sax.ogg
[10:18] <sallychung> sax.ogg doesnt exist
[10:18] <fdoving> intelikey: bash has priority required, you'll get an warning if you try to uninstall it.
[10:19] <Hastesaver> sallychung, not sax.ogg, find an ogg file in /usr/share/example-content and play it
[10:19] <fdoving> intelikey: if you still do, it's not apt/dpkgs fault it breaks because you remove it's dependencies.
[10:20] <fdoving> intelikey: however, for edgy, the situation you describe, could become true, as /bin/sh (which in pre edgy releases has been provided by bash) will be provided by dash.
[10:20] <intelikey> fdoving it is.  it's not dpkg that depends on bash it's ubuntu-base  thus it's the packages that use bash for the post/pre install scripts that are at fault.  they should follow posix
[10:20] <cam_> it's stilling installing appz...
[10:21] <cam_> *still
[10:21] <intelikey> fdoving and dash has always been an optional /bin/sh
[10:21] <Hastesaver> Is Wikipedia down again?
[10:21] <fdoving> intelikey: check 'dpkg -s bash|grep Priority'
[10:22] <sallychung> not playin ogg file
[10:22] <fdoving> intelikey: -optional- not default. You're always welcome to break your system, but don't blame dpkg/apt because you did. :)
[10:22] <sallychung> ...
[10:22] <sallychung> no sound...
[10:22] <fdoving> Hastesaver: works for me.
[10:23] <sallychung> the file plays...but there is no sound
[10:23] <Hastesaver> fdoving, Wikipedia is working for me too now. Weird. Thanks
[10:24] <Hastesaver> sallychung, try other players (xmms, ...)
[10:25] <intelikey> fdoving so what was "my" fault the other four times it puked out on me    lol
[10:25] <intelikey> when bash was installed.  and all "required" packages
[10:25] <intelikey> but anyway.   it still breaks posix for dpkg scripts to start with #!/bin/bash
[10:26] <ketsugi> How can I turn on font antialiasing for my Gnome apps?
[10:26] <ketsugi> Thunderbird, for example
[10:27] <sallychung> umm i'm using xmms
[10:27] <sallychung> the analyser is workign but no sound
[10:27] <intelikey> example; /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst:#!/bin/bash
[10:28] <intelikey> also /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.preinst:#!/bin/bash
[10:28] <intelikey> also /var/lib/dpkg/info/vim-common.preinst:#!/bin/bash -e
[10:28] <sallychung> no sound
[10:30] <Hastesaver> !sound
[10:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:34] <Hastesaver> so what is missing in dash?
[10:38] <NeoSaki> Anyone know of a good Sega emulator for linux?
[10:39] <sallychung> nothing's working
[10:40] <sallychung> hastesaver
[10:40] <sallychung> nothing works
[10:41] <fdoving> intelikey: it's nothing wrong in using bash as long as you have a bash shebang-line. what's not a good thing, is having a /bin/sh shebang line, and use bash-features.
[10:41] <fdoving> intelikey: you can even use perl in those scripts. if you really want to.
[10:44] <sallychung> ok..bye then...thanks for helping
[10:56] <xoxo> hello how do i change from single click to double click in kubuntu?
[10:57] <fdoving> xoxo: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse
[10:57] <daniloc> fdoving: private please?
[10:58] <xoxo> thanks
[10:58] <fdoving> daniloc: if it's kubuntu releated would appriciate that we keep it in the channel.
[10:58] <daniloc> ok
[10:58] <daniloc> man, i update in adept kernel source yesterday
[10:59] <fdoving> daniloc: that way others can benefit and help too.
[10:59] <daniloc> and i restarted my computer
[10:59] <daniloc> and my wifi card dont work
[10:59] <cox377> unlucky
[10:59] <daniloc> when on boot a use old kernel wifi work
[10:59] <daniloc> why?
[10:59] <daniloc> my english is bad, and i hope u understand me
[10:59] <fdoving> daniloc: check that you have the package 'linux-restricted-modules' installed.
[11:00] <flaccid> !vpn
[11:00] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:00] <daniloc> i now installing kernel-source-2.4.27
[11:00] <daniloc> i cant check it now
[11:01] <daniloc> !seen asset
[11:01] <ubotu> I haven't seen asset recently
[11:02] <daniloc> fdoving: after this upgrade what i need to do ?
[11:02] <daniloc> to work my wifi on 2.4.27 kernel
[11:02] <fdoving> daniloc: what's the wifi card?
[11:03] <fdoving> daniloc: 2.4.27 ? what kubuntu version is this?
[11:03] <daniloc> 6.06
[11:03] <wizard123> hi!
[11:03] <daniloc> wifi card working man
[11:03] <daniloc> but i am now at old kernel
[11:03] <daniloc> i update it yesterday, and after restart wifi dont work
[11:03] <fdoving> daniloc: 2.4.27 - you really don'
[11:03] <fdoving> t want 2.4.27
[11:03] <fdoving> daniloc: what wifi card?
[11:04] <wizard123> i need help with sudo.. can somebody pastebin default /etc/sudoers ?
[11:05] <daniloc> fdoving: Pheenet Texas Instruments
[11:06] <daniloc> ?
[11:06] <flaccid> is the !vpn pptpd page a routed or bridged vpn?
[11:06] <fdoving> daniloc: pcmcia?
[11:06] <daniloc> yes
[11:06] <daniloc> no
[11:06] <daniloc> np
[11:06] <daniloc> no
[11:06] <daniloc> Pci
[11:07] <daniloc> PCI
[11:07] <fdoving> flaccid: that's not a bridge.
[11:07] <fdoving> daniloc: ok, can you post the output of 'lspci -v' to http://rafb.net/paste ?
[11:07] <daniloc> wait
[11:08] <fdoving> flaccid: are you setting up server and clients or just client?
[11:08] <daniloc> fdoving: all or ?
[11:08] <fdoving> daniloc: if you find the section for the network card, you can post just that. but all is ok too.
[11:09] <cam_> should I replace my source lsit wiith automatixs'?
[11:09] <cam_> *list
[11:09] <daniloc> ok fdoving
[11:09] <fdoving> flaccid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer
[11:09] <fdoving> !automatix
[11:09] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:09] <fdoving> cam_: ^^
[11:10] <cam_> so I should do it?
[11:10] <cam_> yeah nay?
[11:10] <flaccid> fdoving: to be honest i want to play cs lan games through vpn due to someone stealing my keys
[11:10] <flaccid> only two players but...
[11:10] <cam_> yay or nay?
[11:10] <fdoving> flaccid: two players, both linux? one server and one client?
[11:11] <flaccid> fdoving: two players both clients on cedega/ubuntu/wine. should i create a cs server or get 1 client to be the server?
[11:11] <daniloc> fdoving: http://rafb.net/paste/results/lsZjfh10.html
[11:11] <daniloc> for two players use client
[11:12] <flaccid> fdoving: so openvpn or pptpd best suit this application?
[11:12] <fdoving> flaccid: i have no clue about the gaming stuff. openvpn is the easiest to setup. imho.
[11:12] <fdoving> flaccid: it's all described on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer page, openvpn server and client.
[11:12] <fdoving> daniloc: ok, looking,.
[11:12] <daniloc> fdoving: http://rafb.net/paste/results/lsZjfh10.html
[11:12] <daniloc> ok....
[11:12] <flaccid> fdoving: true, just wondering what !vpn is about ie. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:12] <daniloc> i am in lag :(
[11:13] <fdoving> daniloc: ok, you should use the acx_pci driver.
[11:13] <daniloc> ?
[11:13] <daniloc> how?
[11:14] <fdoving> hang on.
[11:14] <daniloc> ok, i am there :)
[11:16] <fdoving> daniloc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx100
[11:16] <daniloc> thanks fdoving
[11:18] <fdoving> daniloc: you could also have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111
[11:18] <daniloc> ok
[11:18] <daniloc> thanks
[11:18] <fdoving> you're welcome, hope it works for you :)
[11:19] <daniloc> let me check :)
[11:20] <daniloc> fdoving: you using kubuntu too?
[11:20] <fdoving> daniloc: yes, i am.
[11:20] <fdoving> of course i am :)
[11:20] <daniloc> 6.0.6 ?
[11:21] <malkavian> hello, anyone can tell me how i can fast and easy open mp3?
[11:21] <daniloc> nice, can i ask you one more question?
[11:21] <fdoving> daniloc: 6.10 developent branch.
[11:21] <fdoving> daniloc: sure.
[11:21] <malkavian> i mean how i can fast and easy install plugins etc
[11:21] <fdoving> !mp3 > malkavian
[11:21] <malkavian> thx
[11:21] <fdoving> malkavian: also you should read: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[11:21] <daniloc> fdoving: how to install new theme?
[11:21] <daniloc> this default is ugly
[11:22] <daniloc> i wan tsome matrix theme
[11:22] <fdoving> daniloc: take a look at http://kde-look.org
[11:22] <daniloc> to change everything
[11:22] <fdoving>  and start experimenting.
[11:22] <daniloc> i look
[11:22] <daniloc> and i downloaded some themes
[11:22] <daniloc> but i cant install it
[11:25] <fdoving> daniloc: what theme specifically?
[11:25] <jpozlovsky> hi all :)
[11:26] <MenZa> hi
[11:27] <voicu> I got aptitude to install something and I killed the konsole it was in (don't ask why). I think aptitude still works in the background. Can I make a konsole show it
[11:27] <voicu> ?
[11:27] <daniloc> fdoving: eating now ;)
[11:27] <jpozlovsky> I have one small question: how can I SAFELY (without data lost) resize-shrink my ext3 partition (of course I have enougn space for all data on it)?
[11:31] <fdoving> jpozlovsky: make a backup, and use qtparted from the livecd.
[11:32] <fdoving> jpozlovsky: you can't resize partitions safely without a backup in a safe place :)
[11:32] <intelikey> eeek   that's the first time i've ever seen an ext3 to a total crap-out
[11:33] <goldenzim> ok... I have a curious problem
[11:33] <jpozlovsky> fdoving: thanks. but theoretically... is qtparted able to move data on partition if it's needed before resizing?
[11:34] <goldenzim> when I click in the window... like in the content part...I get focus... but the window i clicked in stays behind the others
[11:34] <fdoving> jpozlovsky: yes, but i wouldn't consider it safe. make backups!
[11:34] <intelikey> best i can tell, the journel somehow got corrupted  then on boot it was read and the fs adjusted accordingly.    /bin  was gone  the files that were in /bin were in /dev and there were no device nodes....    system fubar'd
[11:34] <jpozlovsky> fdoving: oh.. ok thanks :)
[11:34] <goldenzim> but when I click on the title bar... it comes to the front
[11:35] <intelikey> /boot became a file in the root dir.  empty file
[11:36] <intelikey> oh my,,, thousands of unclamed files in lost+found
[11:36] <intelikey> well now i know that ext3 can crap-out !
[11:38] <intelikey> i'll rebuild it as ext2.  never really liked journals that well anyway.
[11:39] <intelikey> assuming badblocks cant find anything.
[11:40] <intelikey> oh poop.  i don't think i had saved the device nodes i manually made.
[11:40] <intelikey> nope...
[11:48] <cox377> can anyone recommend a program that can join together avi files?
[11:50] <fdoving> cox377: mencoder (mplayer)
[11:51] <cox377> fdoving: cheers mate, shall give it a go
[11:51] <intelikey> fdoving could i trubble you to dcc me a list of  ls -l /dev/snd  please/
[11:51] <intelikey> ?
[11:53] <fdoving> intelikey: i can pastebin it.
[11:53] <intelikey> that'll work i guess.
[11:54] <fdoving> http://rafb.net/paste/results/6UtKWe62.html
[11:54] <intelikey> ty
[11:54] <fdoving> don't you use udev?
[11:54] <intelikey> no
[11:56] <intelikey> hmmm there's no 116 0  in there...  ;/   i'll test without it.
[11:56] <Dromen> does the wine version available in synaptic come with directx support??
[12:01] <mazzotta87> buongiorno... ragazzi ho dei problemini... ki sarebbe disposto a parlare un po?
[12:01] <voicu> geez, KDE always breaks the stuff that is the hardest to repair. I wanted to backup my current appearance settings and install a new theme. After I clicked apply most of the icons just vanished. When selecting crystal svg again they didn't come back. Why does this thing happen?
[12:02] <voicu> Do I have to select each icon by hand or what?
[12:02] <voicu> also, after installing the package with the new theme, nothing appears in the list
[12:03] <daniloc> i got this problem too
[12:03] <daniloc> i install new theme but i nothing appears in the list
[12:04] <voicu> oh, and the icons in the file dialog are now about 20 times bigger
[12:04] <pielgrzym> hello
[12:04] <intelikey> if you don't like kde you can always use "twm"  :)
[12:05] <daniloc> twm?
[12:05] <voicu> intelikey: I like kde but i always find something that the developers missed and messes a lot of configs
[12:06] <pielgrzym> I've compiled my own kernel (using source availible on ubu repos) and I did't delete the old on (just in case ;). Now there appeared an upgrade to linux image, linux headers and restricted modules, as well as for the source I was compiling. If I install all these upgrades won't it move me back to a generic kernel?
[12:06] <voicu> twm is probably bug free, i guess :)
[12:07] <pielgrzym> and if I download the kernel source (the upgraded one) will "sudo make oldconfig" configure it just like the previous version? Or shall I run makeconfik afterwards? :) please help me :)
[12:09] <voicu> pielgrzym: i'm don't know very much about linux but i guess installing a kernel from the repositories will not keep your current settings. if you want to use a customized kernel i think you will have to recompile it every time you want to upgrade it. again i'm not a linux guru.
[12:11] <pielgrzym> voicu: thanks for answer :) I think it might upgrade both my kernels (since I have the 386, the k7 and my own installed - but I run my own the other two just sit on my disk) but I want to be sure ;)
[12:11] <intelikey> voicu correct. the binary kernel packages do not retain special kernel compilation options
[12:11] <fdoving> voicu: that's correct. :)
[12:12] <intelikey> speeking of....
[12:12] <pielgrzym> ok, so I will recompile it, but if i install other stuff it will replace my custom kernel? :)
[12:13] <laimis> yra lietuviu??
[12:13] <voicu> pielgrzym: i guess not, make a backup to be sure
[12:13] <pielgrzym> voicu: sorry for dumb question :) how to backup my kernel? :)
[12:13] <voicu> can i downgrade kde or do i have to remove all of it and reinstall?
[12:14] <voicu> copy the custom kernel and initrd images from /boot
[12:15] <intelikey> ha what kind of KRAP is this   apt says it will remove everything just because it's removing "linux-*"   that's stupid.
[12:15] <pielgrzym> voicu: thanks :)
[12:15] <intelikey> i'll remove by hand.  let dpkg think it's installed if it wants too...
[12:16] <voicu> intelikey: that's because the installer uses apt-get install linux-base or something to put everything
[12:17] <fdoving> intelikey: use equivs.
[12:18] <intelikey> voicu it does that indeed.  but that's not the issue here.   if it was warning that it would remove ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal  that would be fine  it says it will remove "and the list scrolls for ten minutes" then list the essential packages.   almost all of them.
[12:18] <intelikey> fdoving eqvs ?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> intelikey: that's probably not good then.
[12:19] <intelikey> fdoving i rolled a kernel.  i don't need one installed.
[12:22] <voicu> intelikey, you could remove the package forced and with no dependency handling
[12:22] <flaccid> neway to change screen res without restarting X/logout and in ?
[12:22] <voicu> but that would also be a problem because aptitude will always bump in a broken package (or maybe a lot of them)
[12:22] <intelikey> yes then every time i start to install anything it will reinstall it
[12:23] <voicu> yep, something like that
[12:28] <intelikey> oh found it.   somehow apt was pulling in  libselinux1  that's the one they are all depending on.
[12:28] <intelikey> k now i have no installed kernel
[12:29] <grizzly> anyone knows the exact process/daemon/whatever responsible for enabling khotkeys?
[12:29] <intelikey> looks odd not having /boot or /lib/modules    :)
[12:29] <intelikey> grizzly kdeinit   </guessing>
[12:31] <intelikey> grizzly what ever calls  /usr/bin/khotkeys
[12:31] <intelikey> i would suspect
[12:34] <grizzly> intelikey: Ok thanks, Is there any way to confirm that khotkeys is started with root permissions?
[12:34] <grizzly> So that I cvan do stuff with khotkeyys without needing pass
[12:34] <intelikey> test it ???
[12:35] <intelikey>  /usr/lib/kde3/  have a look     or  /usr/share/doc/kde*
[12:36] <grizzly> ok
[12:36] <intelikey> you're kinda out of my normal playing field.
[12:36] <intelikey> that thing called a GUI  you know.
[12:36] <intelikey> :)
[12:40] <NeoSaki> Graphical User Interface?
[12:40] <NeoSaki> If he's speaking of keyboard hotkeys then its just UI
[12:42] <intelikey> NeoSaki you do know that kde sets it's own hotkeys, and that it can reset or over-ride the existing ones.    even xorg does that.
[12:43] <intelikey> the ^[alt] [del]  is ignored by default within xorg
[12:43] <grizzly> Its like: Win+M,F,L,O = mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy  - the reason I want khotkeys with root powers.
[12:43] <grizzly> Do me a favour plz, just test this if this works for you.
[12:43] <intelikey> grizzly that doesn't need to be done as root.
[12:44] <grizzly> well it only works for me with kdesu
[12:44] <intelikey> you can use sudo
[12:44] <grizzly> :)
[12:44] <fdoving> grizzly: use kdesu, then you don't need khotkeys with root powers.
[12:44] <grizzly> sry, by root I meant sudo ;)
[12:44] <grizzly> basically I want to avoid entering password
[12:45] <grizzly> which is only possible if khotkeys has all the permissions before hand
[12:45] <intelikey> edit the sudoers and add  ALL ALL NOPASSWD:mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy :umount /media/floppy      then anyone can mount or umount it with sudo and no passwd prompt
[12:46] <intelikey> errr actually use exact paths
[12:46] <intelikey>  /bin/mount.... /bin/umount...
[12:47] <grizzly> Thanks a tonne intelikey, I didn't know this.
[12:47] <intelikey> that's the sort of thing that sudo was developed for,  not this psiudo  root-jr. that ubuntu uses
[12:48] <intelikey> grizzly i haven't edited sudoers in a while, so check the syntax  man sudoers
[12:48] <intelikey> not sure if : or ; is correct
[12:49] <fdoving> intelikey, grizzly: sudoers is for commands, only, you don't need the arguments.
[12:50] <intelikey> so because no one uses sudo correctly.  they build all these  p* apps  that are suid to do the same thing.
[12:50] <fdoving> grizzly: and use 'visudo' for safety.
[12:50] <intelikey> fdoving if you want to restrict the command you need the agrs
[12:51] <intelikey> i wouldn't advise anyone to set all nopasswd the mount or umount command   that can be malicious
[12:51] <fdoving> true, i suggest using 'kdesu' without editing sudoers.
[12:52] <fdoving> then it'll ask for your password graphically.
[12:52] <intelikey> yeah root jr   the *buntu way
[12:52] <intelikey> he doesn't want to enter passwd
[12:52] <intelikey> that was specified
[12:53] <fdoving> ok, then use pmount, and add floppy to /etc/pmount.allow
[12:53] <fdoving> remove floppy entries from fstab.. if they exist.
[12:53] <intelikey> case in point  ^
[12:53] <intelikey> or do it right and edit sudoers
[12:54] <shegman> can i use pmount for cd's?
[12:54] <[Al] > Hey, where do I report really annoying bugs that could become security risks?
[12:54] <fdoving> shegman: sure.
[12:54] <intelikey> you can
[12:54] <shegman> ok
[12:54] <fdoving> [Al] : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[12:55] <intelikey> [Al]  malone also
[12:55] <shegman> if i only knew that before. i always became root to mount cd's
[12:55] <fdoving> [Al] : search the bug archive and try to find if your bug is already reported. if it's not, use the report bug link in the upper left corner.
[12:56] <fdoving> shegman: you can add device-names to /etc/pmount.allow and mount everything you want with pmount.
[12:56] <fdoving> that's for non-removable devices.. since removable are allowed by default.
[12:57] <shegman> ok thanks. i search for it
[12:59] <intelikey> hehhe here's what my sudoers file looks like "ALL ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[01:00] <intelikey> don't try that at home.
[01:01] <fdoving> default is nice :)
[01:01] <intelikey> and grizzly it is full colin :
[01:02] <intelikey> if you like the root jr. approach  i guess it is.
[01:05] <intelikey> :)
[01:05] <grizzly> damn! messed up my sudoers file, need to restart.. need puppy!
[01:06] <intelikey> that's why to, use visudo
[01:08] <intelikey> oh and i forgot about that one.   that's another good game you get to play if you use root jr.  :)
[01:09] <intelikey> the broken sudoer game  lol
[01:12] <abattoir> !info kwin-baghira
[01:12] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7a-1build2 (dapper), package size 642 kB, installed size 1848 kB
[01:12] <abattoir> daniloc: ^^^^
[01:16] <liviux> hi anyone. Does somebody know if RAW mode in writing mode of K3b means that i can write and overwrite to one cd more than one time?
[01:17] <liviux> or simply: How I can write more times one cd?
[01:18] <liviux> none? It does't matter thank you
[01:21] <intelikey> if it's cdrw just blank the disk
[01:21] <intelikey> if it's cdr  i don't know of any way
[01:22] <psb154> I remeber doing it by not 'fixing' the disk.
[01:22] <liviux> Are you sure? It's not possible hold the session opening?
[01:22] <psb154> but the previous data is lost.
[01:23] <liviux> oh I know. Thanks
[01:23] <intelikey> psb154 and liviux writing multiple sessions to a disk and over writing a disk are two entirely seperate things
[01:24] <intelikey> if you don't fixiate you can add to  but you cant over write
[01:24] <pielgrzym> what's the name of generic nvidia driver in xorg? I'm instructing friend how to replace a kernel with a precompiled for his processor family. He has installed proprietary ndivia drivers :)
[01:24] <intelikey> nv
[01:26] <intelikey> hmmm i'm getting a strange xorg error
[01:26] <intelikey> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
[01:26] <intelikey> the device exists
[01:26] <intelikey> the mouse is working  i used it to paste the error
[01:26] <liviux> intelikey thank you very much
[01:28] <liviux> I mean multiple session. Is it possible with k3b?
[01:29] <shegman> yes
[01:29] <intelikey> liviux should be   i haven't tried with k3b   i use cdw  or xcdroast if gui
[01:30] <[Al] > what package is make in? :/
[01:30] <cpk2> !make
[01:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:30] <intelikey> [Al]  you want build-essential
[01:30] <[Al] > arr
[01:30] <psb154> liviux on kb3, the settings tab, when burning there is a whole pull down list dedicated to Multisession mode...
[01:31] <pielgrzym> intelikey: thanks :)
[01:31] <intelikey> you're welcome,,, what did i do to you ?
[01:31] <intelikey> on the nv thing   np
[01:32] <leander_> hi, i'm trying to install mplayer with Synaptic but i don't find it?
[01:32] <intelikey> someone tell me why my X is erroring out on input/mice  ?
[01:33] <intelikey> !mplayer
[01:33] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[01:33] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:33] <cpk2> maybe something wierd in the conf?
[01:33] <liviux> perhaps I have founded it
[01:33] <intelikey> cpk2 not unless the protocal is wrong   what's generic ps2 ?   PS/2   ?
[01:34] <psb154> intelikey if you comment out the /dev/mice (whatever) from your xorg.conf does your mouse still work?
[01:34] <intelikey> psb154 ?
[01:34] <psb154> ?
[01:34] <psb154> :-)
[01:34] <intelikey> it's working in console "gpm"   x wont start
[01:34] <psb154> oh
[01:35] <intelikey> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
[01:35] <intelikey>         No such device.
[01:35] <intelikey> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
[01:35] <liviux> ok it work
[01:35] <pielgrzym> intelikey: I want to change friend's xorg.conf before changing kernel, so to be sure his kde and x will start ok after changing the kernel :)
[01:36] <intelikey> pie right.  i scrolled up and reviewed your Q,  again you are quite welcome.
[01:37] <pielgrzym> intelikey: :)
[01:41] <shegman> intelikey: did you tried /dev/mouse?
[01:41] <cpk2> i swear my laptop random freezes at boot up just to get a rise out of me
[01:42] <intelikey> shegman i tried /dev/psaux    which is what  gpm is using   it works but they don't play nice togather.   i need to use the repeter for x
[01:43] <shegman> i thought you don't need xorg.conf for gpm...
[01:44] <intelikey> cpk2 maybe there's a line in an init script?   " [ $RANDOM > 22000 ]  && make cpk2 angry "
[01:44] <intelikey> shegman you dont
[01:44] <shegman> i only needed /dev/input/mice for my laptop so the touchpad and my usb mouse works at the same time
[01:45] <shegman> else im fine going with /dev/mouse
[01:45] <intelikey> but if gpm is running using psaux and x starts and grabs psaux they set and fight over it like two little kids
[01:45] <shegman> that tells me that x needs another dev than psaux...?!
[01:46] <intelikey> welcome to my world
[01:46] <shegman> :)
[01:47] <intelikey> so seeing that i need to use a repeter for x  and not the raw device or else i cant use gpm and x at the same time,   what is the gpm repeter ?
[01:47] <cpk2> i've got a question, how come if i set the essid using iwconfig and then go look at the gui it doesnt say the essid  told t to use
[01:48] <cpk2> intelikey: hrmm better go check for that >=|
[01:48] <intelikey> cpk2 yeah.  and did you update the gui ?
[01:49] <cpk2> intelikey: gui was closed, i used iwconfig, then open the gui and it was still using the old essid
[01:50] <shegman> intelikey: ok i looked. my mouse is /dev/input/mice and my touchpad /dev/psaux but i don't have gpm active on default. i installed kubuntu yesterday night
[01:50] <shegman> but 1 question. what do you mean with repeater?
[01:50] <cpk2> no that i used the gui (blah) it actually connected to the ap
[01:50] <cpk2> now*
[01:51] <jbandlirpa> What is the command that lists your drivers?
[01:51] <zorgluuu> jbandlirpa: try 'lsmod'
[01:52] <intelikey> shegman gpm can act as a repeter for the mouse allowing other apps to treet gpm as the mouse dev.... i found it, i think.   /dev/gpmdata
[01:53] <shegman> !repeter
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <intelikey> hmmm well i thought it was.   maybe it's  gpmctl ....
[01:53] <jbandlirpa> wow, what would your sound driver be listed as?
[01:53] <shegman> !repeater
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeater - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <daniloc> hi
[01:54] <daniloc> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[01:54] <daniloc> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:54] <daniloc> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:54] <intelikey> jbandlirpa lsmod | grep snd
[01:54] <daniloc> how to fix that?
[01:55] <intelikey> daniloc install kdedev  or some such search for kde development packages
[01:55] <jbandlirpa> ahh so theres several drivers that make up your sound?
[01:56] <jbandlirpa> I guess AC97 would be the sound card?
[01:56] <intelikey> jbandlirpa yeah in a sense,   probably more like several that get your sound to work and others that allow input through the card and others that we will never know what they are loaded for
[01:57] <intelikey> sounds like an ibm box
[01:57] <daniloc> intelikey:
[01:58] <intelikey> ?
[01:58] <jbandlirpa> Im trying to get my sound driver cause windows 2000 is stripped of drivers but Kubuntu is smart and loads everything lol
[01:58] <Hobbsee> intelikey: i think you mean kde-devel
[01:58] <daniloc> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23626
[01:59] <intelikey> Hobbsee probably i didn't search,  just kinda waved the general dirrection to look in
[01:59] <shegman> erm. i installed kubuntu yesterday night for the first time. and surfing is really slow. is that normal/default or what is wrong?
[01:59] <daniloc> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23626
[01:59] <intelikey> shegman no
[02:00] <intelikey> check network configs shegman and dns rez
[02:00] <intelikey> daniloc ok i'll look.
[02:00] <zorgluuu> shegman: intelikey: i guess a ipv6 dns issue
[02:01] <daniloc> ok intelikey
[02:01] <intelikey> but i promice you nothing.
[02:01] <shegman> and that means?
[02:01] <cpk2> ok now this is just annoying
[02:01] <cpk2> iwconfig does not work but the gui does ?!!?
[02:01] <zorgluuu> !ipv6
[02:01] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:01] <zorgluuu> shegman: look at this one
[02:01] <intelikey> daniloc looks like a repos issue
[02:02] <shegman> k
[02:02] <daniloc> how to fix?
[02:02] <intelikey> daniloc have a look on the wiki
[02:02] <intelikey> !repos
[02:02] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:02] <intelikey> there ^
[02:03] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[02:04] <intelikey> well for the persent distress, i'm resloved what i'll do as a work around.  i'll kill gpm befor starting x and restart it after....  that's hardly a fix,  but it will do for now.
[02:04] <intelikey> ok if no one has any stones to throw at me, i'll be going now.
[02:11] <Leafw> how can one install just one package from edgy, inkscape 0.44 ?
[02:14] <shegman> erm. i disabled now ipv6 but surfing is not really faster...
[02:16] <shegman> can somebody tell me why?
[02:18] <Infecto> can some one tel me what software is responsible for stering kmix  when i push vol up down or mute buttons on my laptop
[02:18] <linnuxxy> i have massed with some configuration files in the /etc/X11/xkb/rules/  ... and i forgote to backup it first... how can i restore the default? using apt... download it manully from the CVS?
[02:18] <Infecto> right now it stop work for me
[02:28] <ubuntu> oje!
[02:29] <ubuntu> any1 here_
[02:29] <shegman> yeah
[02:30] <ubuntu> oO
[02:30] <ubuntu> im running on a live CD, I dont understand a shit ^^
[02:30] <tdog> hello everyone
[02:31] <tdog> using bash ,,, how can i change to ROOT ??
[02:31] <tdog> Trying to install invidia driver, and error message says i have to be in root to install
[02:31] <shegman> type su. but on kubuntu the root account is disabled by default. you can only sudo
[02:33] <tdog> how can i enable SU . ?
[02:33] <Dannilion> sudo su
[02:33] <tdog> i just try SU and i entered my pass, but authentication failed
[02:34] <Dannilion> though you really only need to use sudo *whatever command* to run it as root
[02:34] <tdog> thanks
[02:34] <Jonty> Hmm. Can you use Debian repositories with Kubuntu?
[02:36] <Dannilion> no probs
[02:37] <Dannilion> Jonty: It's definitely not recommended- it can cause problems
[02:38] <Jonty> hmm
[02:38] <Dannilion> what do you need from the debian repositories that isn't in the ubuntu ones?
[02:39] <Jonty> pyqt4
[02:39] <visik7> will kubuntu edgy have apport ?
[02:40] <abattoir> !info python-qt4
[02:40] <ubotu> Package python-qt4 does not exist in any distro I know
[02:40] <abattoir> !info python-qt4 edgy
[02:40] <ubotu> python-qt4: Python bindings for Qt4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.1-1 (edgy), package size 1451 kB, installed size 6636 kB
[02:40] <visik7> python-qt4 exists in edgy
[02:41] <Dannilion> Jonty: in the meantime, look here: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/python/pyqt4-dev-tools
[02:42] <Jonty> You suggest I install the edgy package?
[02:42] <Dannilion> erm, hang on
[02:42] <tdog> damn.. i was close to install NVIDIA driver.. error message tells me i am in X server mode..
[02:42] <[Al] > can anyone recommend somewhere where I can get wireless networking help?
[02:42] <abattoir> Jonty: no, most probably it wont work
[02:42] <abattoir> !wifi
[02:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:42] <abattoir> [Al] : ^^^
[02:42] <Dannilion> wrong page, sorry
[02:42] <abattoir> *it wont work
[02:42] <[Al] > The card works, it's just the network that doesn't
[02:43] <Jonty> Gah, I'm doing a huge automatix installation anyway, so I can't try it right now
[02:43] <[Al] > So it's not really an ubuntu problem
[02:43] <Jonty> Yeah
[02:43] <Jonty> It's just very annoying it's not in MY version...
[02:43] <tdog> ummmm :S how do i change from x server ??????
[03:09] <leleobhz> hello all!
[03:10] <leleobhz> plz
[03:10] <leleobhz> i have installed kubuntu
[03:10] <leleobhz> but because i dont have internet on installation
[03:10] <leleobhz> it uses english, instead my language
[03:10] <leleobhz> well
[03:11] <leleobhz> the package kde-i18n-ptbr are brokened
[03:11] <leleobhz> someone have some tip?
[03:12] <leleobhz> and another, have some network monitor for systray on kubuntu?
[03:13] <pascal> knetworkmanager should give you a systray monitor
[03:14] <pascal> how is the language pack broken?
[03:15] <leleobhz>   kde-i18n-ptbr: Depende: language-pack-kde-ptbr mas no est instalvel
[03:16] <pascal> have you filed a bug report on this issue?
[03:16] <leleobhz> nop
[03:16] <leleobhz> pascal: the most curious ive installed on my desktop a few days
[03:16] <leleobhz> and its works...
[03:17] <pascal> you should, so it will be fixed.  give me a second, I will just try something
[03:17] <leleobhz> pascal: may i need use my xx.archive.ubuntu.com to get these packages?
[03:17] <leleobhz> pascal: ill wait so
[03:17] <pascal> yes
[03:18] <leleobhz> :] 
[03:22] <freewill> Boson is crashing plz help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1506005#post1506005
[03:23] <freewill> just comment in irc... i don't know if its the game or my drivers or my libs/deps
[03:23] <pascal> leleobhz I wanted to see if I could find some override option.. but couldn't find it. I've filed a bug for you though:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-i18n-ptbr/+bug/60732
[03:25] <leleobhz> lets see
[03:25] <pascal> you might want to subscribe to it so you get the news when it works
[03:25] <leleobhz> pascal: may i do something if its for ubuntu translators :] 
[03:26] <pascal> leleobhz. What do you mean? I suppose anybody is allowed to fix it ;-)
[03:26] <leleobhz> pascal: :p
[03:26] <leleobhz> heh
[03:26] <leleobhz> just a mind note
[03:26] <leleobhz> im a official transaltor too
[03:27] <pascal> good, then it's easier to subscribe to it :-)
[03:36] <Kiongku> !Cervisia
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Cervisia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <Jucato> !cvs
[03:36] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[03:36] <Jucato> ooops...
[03:36] <Kiongku> lol yo Jucato
[03:36] <Kiongku> !nvu
[03:36] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[03:36] <ehazlett> hey all....  does kubuntu use kdm?
[03:37] <Kiongku> !kdm
[03:37] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[03:37] <Kiongku> kubuntu uses kde.. does it answer ur question?
[03:37] <leleobhz> :] 
[03:37] <ehazlett> what is the login manager? gdm or kdm?
[03:37] <Hobbsee> kdm
[03:37] <ehazlett> thanks
[03:40] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: what web browser do u use?
[03:41] <Jucato> she uses FF :P
[03:41] <Hobbsee> Kiongku: firefox, for the web
[03:41] <Jucato> I "might" have to start using FF a lot...
[03:41] <Kiongku> Hobbsee: what is ur current version of it?
[03:43] <Hobbsee> 1.5, mozilla binaries
[03:43] <Tm_T> :)
[03:44] <Kiongku> hmm 1.5.0.5 in repos and latest is 1.5.0.7 ..
[03:44] <Hobbsee> !info firefox
[03:44] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB
[03:44] <Hobbsee> odd.
[03:44] <Hobbsee> i wonder why 1.0.6 didnt make it in
[03:44] <Jucato> heh no one packaged the 1.5.0.7 yet
[03:44] <Hobbsee> er, 1.5.6
[03:45] <Jucato> er.. 1.5.0.6 (and 1.5.0.7)
[03:45] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you could always become the mozilla master.  *ducks*
[03:45] <Jucato> heh
[03:45] <Hobbsee> yeah, .7 has only been out for a day or so though
[03:45] <Jucato> you're talking to the wroooong person :P
[03:45] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:45] <Kiongku> hmm
[03:45] <Jucato> I'd rather focus my *cough*talents*cough* on KHTML :P
[03:45] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:45] <Kiongku> ~_~
[03:45] <Jucato> (if I had any talents, that is...)
[03:45] <abattoir> Jucato: that's the spirit :)
[03:46] <Kiongku> well i hope it updates the repos soon
[03:46] <Jucato> spriit? what spirit?
[03:46] <Tm_T> Jucato: booze?
[03:46] <Hobbsee> iwj likely will.  i think he's been working on printing and the latest 2.0b2
[03:46] <abattoir> Tm_T: you're too old for the party :P
[03:46] <Jucato> Edgy will ship with 2.0 beta right?
[03:46] <Tm_T> nah
[03:46] <bintut> hello all..
[03:46] <Hobbsee> hey bintut
[03:46] <Tm_T> I'm too old to everything
[03:47] <abattoir> Jucato: unless 2.0 is actually released
[03:47] <Hobbsee> Jucato: who knows
[03:47] <abattoir> Jucato: or an RC is released
[03:47] <drbreen_> is 20beta som thingy that passed ACID2 ?
[03:47] <bintut> is there a way to install kubuntu-desktop without the koffice?
[03:47] <Jucato> well, Knot 2 (and 3 I think) is using 2.0b already...
[03:47] <bintut> i just want to purely use openoffice.org
[03:47] <Jucato> bintut: kubuntu-desktop doesn't install koffice
[03:47] <abattoir> kubuntu-desktop depends on koffice?
[03:48] <Jucato> who cares about passing Acid tests... if Google services don't work on it.. :(
[03:48] <GarethMB> Hi, i've got a silly wireless niggle. Could someone help me with it maybe
[03:48] <bintut> i tried "apt-get install -s kubuntu-desktop" and some packages are named "koffice"
[03:48] <GarethMB> My hardware works fine out of the box
[03:49] <GarethMB> but i can't get it to connect to my network at boot
[03:49] <Jucato> ah simulate...
[03:49] <Kiongku> GarethMB: at boot?
[03:50] <Jucato> heh.. still stumbling out of bed..
[03:50] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Nope, sometimes I fall out of bed :)
[03:50] <Jucato> bintut: are you sure it's not openoffice that you're actually seeing? because kubuntu-desktop doesn't realy depend on koffice
[03:51] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i hope you are feeling better, btw :)
[03:51] <abattoir> bintut: try 'apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep koffice'
[03:51] <Hawkwind> Hey there bintut, good to see ya
[03:51] <Hawkwind> abattoir: That I am.  A ton better in fact
[03:51] <Jucato> possibly one of the packages recommends koffice?
[03:51] <abattoir> Hawkwind: that's good to hear
[03:52] <bintut> koffice-data, koffice-libs
[03:52] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:52] <abattoir> bintut: that's the output of the apt-cache show... command?
[03:52] <bintut> Hawkwind: me, too. :)
[03:52] <abattoir> Jucato: you're on dapper? could you check that please?
[03:53] <bintut> abattoir: nope..   it's the output of "apt-get install -s kubuntu-desktop"
[03:53] <Kiongku> hey ppl whats the command to make a file an executable script?
[03:53] <Jucato> i'm on Dapper, and no, there's no koffice output
[03:53] <flukej-walker> !kernel
[03:53] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:53] <Jucato> Kiongku: chmod +x <filename>
[03:53] <Kiongku> ya thats it. forgot it
[03:54] <Jucato> Kiongku: or you could do it in Konqueror :P
[03:55] <Kiongku> hmm?
[03:56] <Jucato> right-click on the file, select Properties, then go to the Permissions tab and check "executable"
[03:56] <bintut> ok..  nevermind guys.. my next question is, does it make sense if remastering kubuntu-desktop + edubuntu packages?
[03:57] <Kiongku> lol
[03:58] <abattoir> bintut: have you had a look at KDE edu
[03:58] <abattoir> ?
[03:58] <bintut> i want to have edubuntu use kde but the default DE of edubuntu is gnome
[03:58] <bintut> abattoir: not yet.  but i want to have a customized install cd using kde + educ packages
[03:59] <abattoir> bintut: from what i've heard edubuntu used to run KDE edu apps under gnome...
[03:59] -N1kcSrev:#kubuntu- Somebody has sent you a message, to read it type: /server read 1
[03:59] <abattoir> bintut: but now apparently they are working on gtk+ versions
[03:59] <bintut> abattoir: i want to have KDE as the desktop manager for edubuntu and not gnome
[04:00] <flukej-walker> bintut: Once you install Edubutuntu, you can apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install KDE
[04:00] <bintut> flukej-walker: yeah, i know it's possible.. but i want to have an install cd using KDE + educ packages
[04:00] <abattoir> bintut: http://edu.kde.org/
[04:01] <abattoir> bintut: as i told you, i'm not aware of the current compositon of edubuntu apps, but they were using kde ones(might still be using)
[04:01] <abattoir> bintut: so you might have the same effect installing kde-edu
[04:01] <bintut> abattoir: i'm looking for a distro.. and i think remastering kubuntu to add educ packages and remove other unnecessary packages
[04:02] <bintut> abattoir: precisely..  an install cd that will install Kubuntu + Educ packages
[04:02] <USlvlC> anyone install xgl on quadro4 980 xgl ?
[04:02] <abattoir> bintut: have a look at http://edu.kde.org/ see if it suits your needs
[04:02] <grothesk> Hello!
[04:03] <USlvlC> im n00b and no matter what tutorial i follow it not working out fo rme
[04:03] <grothesk> Ist kderadio available for kubuntu?
[04:03] <abattoir> bintut: if it does, then you can always remove the unnecessary packages from a regular kubuntu install, add kde-edu and remaster :)
[04:03] <bintut> abattoir: yeah.
[04:04] <grothesk> How do you use a radiocard under kubuntu?
[04:05] <flukej-walker> how do you remaster?
[04:05] <karim> hi pplz
[04:05] <karim> i have a problem
[04:06] <karim> can any1 help me
[04:06] <Kiongku> why cant ppl ask their question directly
[04:06] <flukej-walker> karim: whats up?
[04:06] <Jucato> Kiongku: they're trying to be polite
[04:06] <karim> ok ok just checkin that theres ppl here
[04:06] <Jucato> or that ^^
[04:06] <karim> i wanna download messenger
[04:06] <karim> msn messenger
[04:06] <NeoSaki> karim: aMSN
[04:06] <karim> and when i save it it says that theres an error
[04:06] <Kiongku> Jucato: oh well
[04:07] <NeoSaki> karim: if you are in linux the normal MSN Messenger will not work on it
[04:07] <grothesk> !kradio
[04:07] <karim> ok then?
[04:07] <Kiongku> yah... would have been great it it worked
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kradio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <Kiongku> !amsn
[04:07] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[04:07] <Kiongku> !kopete
[04:07] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB
[04:07] <Jucato> Kiongku: our policy of "don't ask if you could ask, just ask" is a bit unique. it would be considered rude on other forums, channels :P
[04:07] <grothesk> Or try kmess, karim.
[04:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: may be bcoz we are regulars in the chan ( ' ')
[04:08] <Kiongku> !kmess
[04:08] <ubotu> kmess: MSN Messenger for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 1053 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[04:08] <karim> i mean isn't there a specialized version of msn 4 linux like 4 mac
[04:08] <USlvlC> xorg sdk <---- nvidia driver installer complains cannot find
[04:08] <karim> ?
[04:08] <Jucato> Kiongku: nah. it's really the policy of the channel :P
[04:08] <NeoSaki> Or go get WINE and install msn messenger xD
[04:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: lol
[04:08] <Jucato> hm... Kopete works with MSN, at least for the basic functions...
[04:08] <flukej-walker> karim: thats because Billy G wants to run us of and use his Opy Sys
[04:09] <Kiongku> karim: really no idea.. i use amsn.. it has the bear minimum but at least it works
[04:09] <Kiongku> and yah Billy boy hates us
[04:09] <karim> wht about other chattin software
[04:09] <karim> ??
[04:09] <roconnor> what does `` you need to enable dapper-backports to be able to install Amarok 1.4.3.'' mean exactly?
[04:09] <karim> Is linux so hated??
[04:09] <Jucato> karim: Kopete doesn't work for you?
[04:09] <NeoSaki> it isn't hated
[04:09] <USlvlC> linux rules
[04:09] <NeoSaki> they are just joking
[04:09] <roconnor> specifically what does ``enable dapper-backports'' entail?
[04:09] <karim> then what should i do neo
[04:10] <Jucato> roconnor: it means you have to enable the dapper-backports in your sources.list/repositories
[04:10] <NeoSaki> Karim: goto k menu -> system -> adept
[04:10] <USlvlC> roconnor i think its a source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <Jucato> roconnor: the line with "dapper-backports" in it
[04:10] <flukej-walker> several other clients were given earlier, but I have never tried them
[04:10] <Jucato> !repos
[04:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:10] <Jucato> roconnor: that guide would help you ^^^^
[04:10] <karim> ok then neo
[04:11] <NeoSaki> karim: in the search box type kopete
[04:11] <Jucato> karim: Kopete doesn't work for you?
[04:11] <Jucato> NeoSaki: Kopete is installed by default
[04:11] <karim> ok
[04:11] <Kiongku> i think its all about business... u wunt give ur competitor a software than he can use for his own system right ( ' ')
[04:11] <NeoSaki> Jucato: I was just gonna have her check if it was
[04:11] <Jucato> ah
[04:11] <Jucato> well it would be in the menu if it were :P
[04:12] <karim> after kopete
[04:12] <NeoSaki> karim: does the package kopete have a green box beside it?
[04:12] <karim> nothing green!
[04:12] <NeoSaki> erm..does it say "intsalled" beside it
[04:12] <roconnor> Jucato: hmm, I see nothing about backports on that page.
[04:12] <NeoSaki> sorry I was thinking of something else
[04:12] <karim> ok
[04:12] <Jucato> roconnor: it just guides you on the basics of adding/enabling repositories.
[04:12] <Kiongku> NeoSaki: thinking of synaptic right :P?
[04:13] <NeoSaki> Kiongku: yeah
[04:13] <NeoSaki> karim: does it say Installed?
[04:13] <roconnor> Jucato: okay, but what is the name of the backports repository?
[04:13] <NeoSaki> karim if so, close adept, then go k menu -> internet -> kopete
[04:13] <Jucato> roconnor: your sources.list (Manage Repositories in Adept) has something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports ......"
[04:14] <Jucato> the dapper backports repository is already there, it's just disabled. right-click to enable (in Manage Repositories)
[04:14] <roconnor> Jucato: thanks!
[04:15] <grothesk> !de
[04:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:15] <kaps> hi can someone tell me how to update kernel in kubuntu??
[04:15] <karim> neo thx bro
[04:16] <karim> i got it
[04:16] <Kiongku> kaps: just update via adept?
[04:16] <NeoSaki> karim: np
[04:16] <karim> i just downed linux 2day
[04:16] <karim> so ama new guy here
[04:16] <kaps> but what specific packages should i install?
[04:16] <NeoSaki> karim: its all good, everyone starts somewhere
[04:16] <karim> i have this huge faith in it
[04:16] <Kiongku> NeoSaki: i tried using msn with kopete once but had crash issues..
[04:16] <roconnor> hmmm, amarok-arts is being removed when I upgrade to amarok 1.4.3.  Should I be concerned?
[04:16] <karim> ya bro r u from japan?
[04:16] <NeoSaki> Kiongku: Really? that and gaim are the only two I've ever used
[04:16] <Kiongku> kaps: just upgrade?
[04:16] <NeoSaki> Karim: nah, US
[04:17] <karim> lol ayte
[04:17] <Kiongku> NeoSaki: ya.. thats why i use amsn
[04:17] <karim> cya when problem arises
[04:17] <USlvlC> xorg-sdk, is this a rpm i need to convert to deb with alien or is it actually the java sdk
[04:18] <Kiongku> kaps: ehrm now i think of it.. did u mean compile a newer version of the kernel?
[04:18] <Kiongku> USlvlC: ._o.. i think rpm files have *.rpm name
[04:19] <USlvlC> yeah so how would i install an rpm in kubuntu
[04:20] <Kiongku> USlvlC: >>"... ehrm convert to deb then..
[04:20] <NeoSaki> USlvlC: get alien
[04:20] <visik7> will apport-kde be released before edgy will officialy out ?
[04:20] <kaps> well i dont want to compile new kernel just to dll newer kernel
[04:20] <flukej-walker> hey, does anyone know when KDE4 hits the streets?
[04:20] <kaps> precompiled kernel image
[04:20] <flukej-walker> !kde4
[04:20] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[04:21] <visik7> flukej-walker: not before the EOY
[04:21] <Kiongku> kaps: the kernel version for dapper is frozen.. there's only security kernel updates
[04:22] <USlvlC> perfect thanks guys
[04:24] <stoic> damn i get the feeling people dont like this room
[04:24] <Kiongku> why?
[04:24] <stoic> look how many people just signed off at the same time
[04:24] <Kiongku> lol
[04:24] <Kiongku> its the same person
[04:25] <jontydog> afternoon all
[04:25] <pielgrzym> stoic: probably me :D
[04:25] <Kiongku> haha
[04:25] <NeoSaki> Nono its me >_>
[04:25] <stoic> lol
[04:25] <jontydog> can someone tell me what this means
[04:25] <kaps> ok thx anyway, gotta go
[04:25] <jontydog> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:25] <jontydog> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:25] <NeoSaki> jontydog: your bash isn't set correctly
[04:26] <flukej-walker>     * LFS
[04:26] <stoic> you lost me at connection
[04:26] <NeoSaki> first time i've seen it in kubuntu, though >_>
[04:26] <NeoSaki> its an easy fix
[04:26] <jontydog> I am trying to set up a prog called mythtv
[04:26] <NeoSaki> jontydog meh mythtv is a pain in the ass
[04:27] <jontydog> lol yup I know
[04:27] <jontydog> just got the newest one 0.20
[04:27] <roconnor> I have one more problem with my Kubuntu system.  After closing and opening my laptop lid (when running X) the screen remains blank and X appears unresponsive. :(
[04:27] <NeoSaki> roconnor: yeah, its the laptop display switch
[04:28] <voicu> OK, this is crap. I reinstalled all the packages from KDE. I reinstalled the icon theme (because I had problems with) and still a lot of icons just don't appear. WTF?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> what icons
[04:28] <voicu> btw, all my settings got lost, what is wrong with this pos?
[04:28] <voicu> for example, in konq
[04:28] <NeoSaki> voicu: the user
[04:28] <voicu> back, forward, up buttons
[04:28] <voicu> etc
[04:29] <voicu> katapult
[04:29] <roconnor> NeoSaki: This is a known problem?
[04:29] <voicu> log off, lock screen, all icons in kmenu
[04:29] <NeoSaki> roconnor: I've seen something about it, looking
[04:29] <roconnor> NeoSaki: Oooh, thanks!
[04:29] <voicu> the file dialog has 40x40 icon spacing
[04:29] <voicu> yet, the icons are 8x8 or something
[04:30] <voicu> everything looks like crapt
[04:30] <flukej-walker> voice: which icon set?
[04:30] <voicu> crytal svg
[04:30] <voicu> the default one
[04:30] <flukej-walker> did you reinstall it?
[04:30] <roconnor> I suppose X isn't _totally_ unresponsive.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace still works ;)
[04:30] <Kiongku> voicu: do clean install ( ' ')..
[04:30] <abattoir> voicu: are you sure they are "8x8" ?
[04:30] <bintut> what's the kubuntu enterprise edition?
[04:31] <voicu> maybe not 8x8, they are small...
[04:31] <Vegeta^> How do I copy files from a remote server? when I try scp, I can an error: "cp: cannot create regular file `/.../<filename>': No such file or directory".. why?
[04:31] <flukej-walker> bintut: never heard of it, got a link?
[04:31] <abattoir> voicu: try increasing w/ Ctrl+Up scroll(in the mouse)
[04:31] <voicu> what package contains the icons, and the file dialog?
[04:31] <flukej-walker> !kubuntu enterprise
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu enterprise - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <NeoSaki> roconnor: try to use ctrl+alt+F3 then Ctrl+alt+F1
[04:31] <roconnor> NeoSaki: yeah, I can switch to the virtual termnals
[04:31] <roconnor> But when I switch back to X, it is still blank :(
[04:32] <NeoSaki> hrm...
[04:32] <NeoSaki> jontydog: you still here?
[04:32] <roconnor> I'm a little concerned that closing my lid has tried to initiate a suspend-to-ram (which I have enabled) but is failing somehow.
[04:32] <roconnor> Althought I don't have too much to support this theory.
[04:33] <voicu> abattoir: it's not in konq, the file dialog that appears when you click 'browse' somewhere. the buttons on the left are about 60px high.
[04:33] <roconnor> Maybe I'm just going to have to add logging statement to lid.sh to find out what it is doing.
[04:33] <NeoSaki> roconnor: maybe
[04:33] <voicu> the file dialog also has no browsing icons
[04:33] <abattoir> voicu: you mean like in the file open dialog?
[04:33] <bintut> flukej-walker: i just read it from a website.. wait, i'll search for it.
[04:33] <NeoSaki> I can't find the page I read that on...
[04:33] <voicu> abattoir: yes
[04:34] <flukej-walker> bintut: Enterprise sounds fancy, need to check it out
[04:34] <voicu> what now? hunt for each config and rewrite it?
[04:34] <roconnor> NeoSaki: It's odd.  Usually when I have a problem, I can find a page where others have the same problem.  But this time I haven't found anything.
[04:34] <abattoir> voicu: rt.click->View->Large icons
[04:34] <voicu> abattoir: lol, large icons looks fine. small icons have a larger button than the big ones
[04:35] <bintut> flukej-walker: i think it's the LTS version
[04:35] <flukej-walker> ah
[04:35] <NeoSaki> roconnor: does it do it everytime?
[04:35] <flukej-walker> so... Dapper?
[04:35] <abattoir> voicu: 'button' ?
[04:35] <jontydog> neosaki yes I am here
[04:35] <roconnor> NeoSaki: every time
[04:35] <jontydog> still messing with this install
[04:35] <NeoSaki> jontydog: does it still give the same error
[04:35] <voicu> abattoir, the size of the link, the whatever you click and has an icon
[04:35] <NeoSaki> roconnor: sorry about not being able to help, possibly a bad driver? i dunno
[04:35] <jontydog> yes as a root user but completely different error otherwise
[04:36] <roconnor> yeah, could be something with my X.org
[04:37] <roconnor> OTOH, suspend-to-ram works just fine.  You'd think that closing the lid would be simpler.
[04:37] <NeoSaki> jontydog: i'm gonna go ahead and do an install, and tell ya how i did that
[04:37] <voicu> anyone knows which package contains the crystal icon theme?
[04:37] <voicu> i reinstalled kde artwork and it didn't fix it
[04:37] <hsys> kde-look.org
[04:38] <hsys> kde-look.org contains the crystal icon theme
[04:38] <flukej-walker> kde-look.org contains everything
[04:38] <jontydog> cheers neosaki
[04:38] <hsys> exactly XD
[04:38] <NeoSaki> voicu: kde-icon-crystal
[04:38] <jontydog> have you got version 0.20?
[04:38] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[04:38] <Kr4t05> This is goofy...
[04:38] <voicu> hsys, but if kubuntu comes with it installed by default shouldn't it be in the repos?
[04:38] <NeoSaki> and kde-icon-crystalclear
[04:38] <voicu> NeoSaki, ok
[04:38] <voicu> thanks
[04:39] <NeoSaki> jontydog: yeah I just downloaded the source
[04:39] <roconnor> what does ``xset dpms force on'' do?
[04:39] <Kr4t05> I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4 and now Kaffeine doesn't shot the video to some DVDs that I ripped only the other day. Before, they worked fine, but now... ><
[04:39] <Kr4t05> show*
[04:40] <hsys> .
[04:40] <NeoSaki> jontydog: now it configured fine, and compiled fine?
[04:40] <jontydog> I have installed through adept
[04:41] <NeoSaki> oh
[04:41] <NeoSaki> >_>
[04:41] <jontydog> when I run setup it won't connect to the database
[04:41] <NeoSaki> I don't see it in adept
[04:42] <jontydog> I had to add the repository
[04:42] <NeoSaki> ahh
[04:43] <jontydog> I think the problem is with mysql
[04:43] <jontydog> mythconverg is set up but not accepting the password
[04:43] <Kr4t05> Bah... I have to re-rip these videos, don't I?
[04:44] <Kiongku> !mythtc
[04:44] <Kiongku> !mythtv
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mythtc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[04:44] <NeoSaki> i see
[04:46] <USlvlC> wil the xorg-x11-sdk for fedora core 5 workin in kubuntu with kernel 1.6.15?
[04:46] <USlvlC> i know this dumb question prolly but i dont see anything about xorg-sdk in any of the how tos on forums
[04:48] <USlvlC> guess ther only one way to find out
[04:48] <NeoSaki> hey jontydog: where did you get the repos for it?
[04:49] <karim> I am using messenger msn from kopete and wanna change to yahoo messenger
[04:49] <karim> or work wid both
[04:49] <NeoSaki> karim with both, it will work
[04:49] <Jucato> karim: you can
[04:49] <jontydog> hamstas
[04:49] <karim> how can i
[04:49] <karim> i have this feeling that linux is so weak when it comes 2 chatting
[04:49] <jontydog> karim use Gaim instead
[04:49] <Jonty> Can anyone suggest time-shifting software for streams?
[04:49] <karim> where is that?
[04:50] <NeoSaki> ...
[04:50] <NeoSaki> dont confuse karim
[04:50] <jontydog> :)
[04:50] <hsys> jeje
[04:50] <NeoSaki> karim just go settings -> configure
[04:50] <Jucato> karim: in the Settings menu > Configure > Accounts options (left side) click on New
[04:50] <NeoSaki> and on accounts add
[04:51] <NeoSaki> erm new
[04:51] <NeoSaki> yeah
[04:51] <sorush20> what program is there to get rid of sensitive data ?
[04:51] <hsys> [10:50]  <karim> i have this feeling that linux is so weak when it comes 2 chatting - that was funny
[04:51] <NeoSaki> sorush20: a microwave
[04:51] <NeoSaki> ^-^
[04:51] <karim> where is configure lol
[04:51] <karim> ?
[04:51] <NeoSaki> jontydog: link
[04:51] <hsys> XD
[04:51] <Jucato> karim: it's the last option in the Settings menu
[04:51] <sorush20> NeoSaki: something more selective for files and folders..
[04:51] <Jucato> main Kopete window
[04:51] <NeoSaki> sorush20: ahh, you want to keep some
[04:52] <karim> where is the settings menu
[04:52] <jontydog> link what got neosaki?
[04:52] <karim> ?
[04:52] <jontydog> hamstas?
[04:52] <sorush20> NeoSaki: stop messing me about
[04:52] <Jucato> karim: at the top of the Kopete window
[04:52] <NeoSaki> jontydog: yeah
[04:53] <jontydog> one minute
[04:53] <NeoSaki> sorush20: hold on im looking
[04:53] <hsys> who's better ubuntu or kubuntu ? i like both .. XD
[04:53] <cvt> does linux have trouble burning to usb drives by default?
[04:53] <hsys> gnome or kde?
[04:53] <hsys> XD
[04:53] <Jucato> "personal preference"
[04:53] <karim> ok got the configure
[04:53] <hsys> XD
[04:54] <sorush20> NeoSaki: I'm looking too.. don't know what keywords to use.
[04:54] <marvinalone> for some reason my maximized windows don't have window borders. they used to though. how do i get them back?
[04:54] <karim> i found the configure
[04:54] <karim> can u help me more
[04:54] <karim> ?
[04:54] <jontydog> http://hamsta.net/mythtv/files/dapper/testing
[04:54] <kharloss> there are some benchmarks between ubuntu and kubuntu /
[04:54] <kharloss> ?
[04:55] <Healot> benchmarking the same OS?
[04:55] <Healot> for what?
[04:55] <Jucato> karim: just add a new account like you how you did with your MSN account
[04:55] <NeoSaki> he's meaning the difference in KDE and Gnome
[04:55] <hsys> yep
[04:55] <karim> oh ok
[04:55] <karim> kewl
[04:56] <Healot> the term is comparison; not benchmarking
[04:56] <hsys> but there most be a difference in speed and performance between kde and gnome .. or im wrong ?
[04:57] <karim> thx jucato
[04:57] <Jucato> depends on the system it's running on
[04:57] <Healot> hum not really
[04:58] <Healot> because the OS is still the same; same kernel; same services (most);
[04:58] <kharloss> can i test ubuntu on my computer ? 32 MB RAM , cpu 650 khz ,  etc ?
[04:58] <Jucato> Healot: but they use different libraries, there will be performance differences too
[04:58] <Healot> no; kharloss: 256MB minimum
[04:59] <Healot> kharloss: you can do lowmem server install though; with alternate CD or server CD
[04:59] <NeoSaki> I thought it was a 194 min >_>
[04:59] <hsys> XD
[05:00] <Vegeta^> I get the following error, when I try to scp: "ssh: connect to host <MYIP> port 22: Connection refused" <-- Does this mean I'm firewalled on this port? It can't be NAT, because that's open. How do I "unfirewall" the port (or any others ports in ubuntu)?
[05:00] <Healot> 650KHz CPU?
[05:00] <Healot> holy
[05:00] <hsys> jaja
[05:01] <Healot> my first CPU was a SPARCII; 250MHz
[05:02] <fdoving> Vegeta^: probably means ssh daemon isn't running.
[05:02] <octan> can someone help me.. im trying to install xgl & compiz. i tryed following some howto. but i cant get it to work.. http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/howto/xgl&compiz/compiz&xgl.txt
[05:02] <octan> nothing happens when i select compiz at kdm and startup kde
[05:03] <david_> do you still get kde running?
[05:03] <octan> yes
[05:03] <octan> kde startsup
[05:03] <karim> can i have shortcuts in linux
[05:03] <Vegeta^> fdoving: I don't have that. But I'll install it now.
[05:04] <karim> cuz when i press right click there isn't?
[05:04] <david_> karim: we don't have shortcuts we have "symlinks"
[05:04] <octan> david_, is there aother howto for a 64 bit system?
[05:04] <karim> okaaaay
[05:05] <david_> octan: it should be the same.
[05:05] <karim> how can i get those "symlinks"
[05:05] <karim> ?
[05:07] <david_> karim: drag a file/folder to the folder you want to place it to
[05:07] <corporate> hi
[05:07] <Healot>  ln -s realfile link
[05:07] <david_> when it comes up with the dialogue "move here" "copy here" or "link here"
[05:07] <david_> press link here
[05:08] <david_> yeah.or the CLI way healot says.
[05:08] <corporate> can anybody help with configuring xserver-xorg on my dell 5100
[05:08] <jontydog> xserver
[05:08] <karim> ya but it copies it david
[05:08] <jontydog> oops wrong window sorry
[05:08] <karim> i wanna shortcut
[05:09] <Jucato> karim: choose "Link here".
[05:09] <Jucato> it doesn't copy it
[05:09] <karim> ok
[05:09] <Jucato> karim: symlink is what Linux calls the "shortcuts" in Windows
[05:09] <Healot> karim: read the KDE Handbook first; my advice
[05:13] <sorush20> NeoSaki: I'm looking too.. don't know what keywords to use.
[05:13] <corporate> can anybody please help me with reconfiguring xserver-xorg for my dell laptop
[05:13] <karim> ok thx
[05:13] <david_> corporate: what eneds configuring?
[05:13] <abattoir> corporate: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:14] <corporate> I did that
[05:14] <corporate> however as soon as I login, the system hangs
[05:14] <abattoir> corporate: which video card?
[05:15] <corporate> Its ATI Mobility Radeon
[05:15] <david_> run "tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[05:15] <david_> it might tell you whats poorly on it.
[05:15] <abattoir> corporate: oh, so you are able to see the login screen, and are able to enter KDE ?
[05:16] <corporate> abattoir: I can see login screen, but after I press enter it hangs
[05:16] <corporate> david: I am booting system into root mode, and trying the command you gave me
[05:16] <david_> ok
[05:17] <abattoir> corporate: did you do anything that could cause this, in the last session?
[05:21] <corporate> abattir: I tried to watch TV withit and it started after this, david: the output is Error opening /dev/wacom :Invalid argument (EE) xf860openserial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom No such or file or directory. Erro opening /dev/wacom :Invalid argument. Synaptics DeviceInit Called SynapticsCtrl called. (II) Configured Mouse: ps2Enabledata reporting: succeded Synaptics DeviceOn Called (--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found (**) Radeo
[05:22] <corporate> david: I just typed the output from the command you aksed me to type
[05:22] <david_> yeah, that's the log of what's happened when X starts
[05:23] <corporate> david: so you know what might be the issue, how can I fix it?
[05:23] <ryanakca> 11235812331
[05:23] <david_> wacom is your graphic tablet/touchpad driver. and EE means exceptional error
[05:24] <david_> erm, the reason for that is. ... erm ... someone.
[05:24] <david_> could you run "ls -l /dev/wacom "
[05:26] <corporate> david: it said no such file or directory
[05:26] <hsys> someone XD jeje
[05:32] <akrus> hello everyone
[05:32] <akrus> I have a problem :)
[05:32] <akrus> I need to reboot to windows
[05:32] <akrus> but Grub removed it from menu.lst
[05:32] <akrus> update-grub returns nothing
[05:32] <akrus> what's the problem?
[05:33] <akrus> hm
[05:34] <corporate> david: u there?
[05:34] <david_> sorry had to go and eat some pie.
[05:34] <david_> (that and I'm now stuck on what to suggest, so thought I'd hide)
[05:34] <corporate> david: hehe food is necessary
[05:35] <corporate> david: Never mind,
[05:35] <oliver> good eve
[05:35] <tejinder> is it worth upgrading to edgy?
[05:35] <david_> the way it looked like from the log, it's trying to access the touchpad and then linux is saying "WTF that isn't there"
[05:35] <david_> however, that log could date back from ages ago.
[05:35] <Jucato> tejinder: not yet
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> edit the grub menu.lst - there should be a example 'stanza' for a windows install on the first hard drive
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Uncomment the stanza lines. and it should then let ya get to windows
[05:36] <tejinder> Jucato: can't i get latest packages in dapper like konversation 1.0?
[05:36] <MasterEvil`Lapto> Hey, are all the daemon programs started from a specific location? I hvae things like bluetooth, nvtv, etc. running even though i disabled them in the init scripts for bootup. are they starting somewhere else??
[05:36] <akrus> have someone tried kde4?
[05:36] <Jucato> tejinder: konversation 1.0 is supposed to be in dapper-backports, but due to some bug...
[05:37] <corporate> david: hmm
[05:37] <david_> though that's when X starts, and from the sounds of it X is starting as you're getting KDM (the login screen)
[05:37] <Jucato> akrus: no KDE 4 yet. only a pre-alpha development preview. which basically means nothing unless you are a programmer/developer
[05:37] <akrus> I know
[05:37] <akrus> I'm a developer :D
[05:38] <akrus> but not in KDE team
[05:38] <akrus> hehe
[05:38] <akrus> my friend is in KDE
[05:38] <oliver> jucato: if i start with edgy, will i be able to upgrade with adept/synaptic to the final - step by step ???
[05:38] <corporate> david: hmm
[05:38] <Jucato> oliver: yes. actually you would have updates available almost everyday
[05:38] <akrus> hm
[05:38] <david_> corporate: a ssytem hang is quite unusual
[05:39] <akrus> could someone PM me the info from grub's menu.lst with windows load?:)
[05:39] <david_> corporate: and it's beyond my scope. sorry
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> akrus,  it should be shown in the example/comments  in the file as well.
[05:39] <akrus> okay, I'll try now
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> I uncomment the example - that way windows is First on the menu. and dosent get altered by the auto-updating grub setup tools
[05:40] <Blissex> akrus: yes, someone could, bu there are many examples on the web.
[05:40] <oliver> jucato: sounds good, i have it successfully installed on a 2nd HD, and like to use it on the main-machine, and go from there
[05:40] <akrus> nvm, just need to open AutoCAD :)
[05:40] <akrus> cedega does not support it, i'll try with crossover later
[05:40] <corporate> david: no probs dude, thanks a lot for your time, at least you gave some thought :)
[05:40] <Jucato> just be prepared for some stuff to break/not work
[05:41] <oliver> jucato: is there a roadmap for edgy
[05:42] <Jucato> there is. just not sure where the page is
[05:42] <Healot> it should be release in October;
[05:42] <Healot> however; they can delay the release if they want to :)
[05:43] <oliver> jucato: but u are saying, it will be like the final, after all the updates to come ??
[05:43] <tejinder> how can i install kernel 2.6.17 and kde 3.5.4 on dapper?
[05:43] <Jucato> oliver: afaik, yes.
[05:43] <Jucato> since the repos being used for Edgy know are the same repos that will be released
[05:44] <Healot> kernel 2.6.17; you can build it yourself; for updating KDE; you can follow the links on kubuntu.org
[05:44] <oliver> tejinder: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ dapper main
[05:44] <david_> has anyone here seen krash (kde 4)
[05:44] <Healot> yeah; that's the repos for KDE updates
[05:45] <tejinder> is'nt there prcompiled kernel 686?
[05:45] <tejinder> 2.6.17 preferably
[05:45] <david_> tejinder: give it a fortnight and there will be
[05:45] <jerome__> !restricted
[05:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <tejinder> btw whats the latest stable kernel version for dapper?
[05:47] <Healot> !info linux-386
[05:47] <ubotu> linux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[05:47] <Healot> 2.6.15.24
[05:47] <david_> !info linux-686
[05:47] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[05:48] <tejinder> why so old?
[05:48] <Jucato> 2.6.15-26
[05:48] <Healot> tejinder
[05:50] <Healot> ubuntu tends to be stable; not fast development; that's why imho
[05:50] <david_> there's not much of an advantage to the newer kernels, they're only point releases.
[05:52] <Jucato> ubuntu is a middle ground between stable and latest...
[05:52] <david_> you'll find ubuntu is far more "latest" than others
[05:53] <david_> the only exception I can think of is Gentoo
[05:53] <Jucato> and Debian Sid
[05:53] <david_> debian sarge isn't!
[05:53] <Jucato> I said Sid
[05:53] <david_> I know
[05:54] <tejinder> i used arch linux and its latest too
[05:54] <Jucato> probably the "compiled" distros have the latest stuff
[05:54] <Tm_T> Jucato: that's not always true
[05:54] <tejinder> ubuntu is compiled too?
[05:55] <Tm_T> tejinder: he propably meant gentoo&co
[05:55] <Jucato> "probably"
[05:55] <oliver> can someone recall the procedur to "export" the current installed software list to be used in a new installation i.e. edgy
[05:55] <Healot> I can put it simply; the slowest; Slackware; the fastest? maybe FC or ubuntu; who knows
[05:55] <Jucato> slack, gentoo, arch...
[05:55] <Tm_T> Jucato: many times I had newest KDE in Kubuntu faster than in Gentoo :)
[05:55] <oliver> there was a HP on that issue
[05:56] <Jucato> Tm_T: heh. I wasn't the one who said that Gentoo had the latest. I was just concluding based on their statements :P
[05:56] <Tm_T> Jucato: it depends so much on activity of distro maintainers
[05:56] <zorglu_> !universe
[05:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:56] <tejinder> Jucato: arch is really faster
[05:57] <Jucato> by faster, you mean faster performance or faster/latest packages?
[05:57] <tejinder> Jucato: i guess both
[05:57] <Jucato> heh
[05:57] <tejinder> really
[05:58] <octan> why does my /usr/bin/~X11 never ends?
[05:58] <Jucato> so I've heard
[05:58] <octan> its a dirl that never ends why?
[05:59] <octan> can i delete it?
[05:59] <oliver> jucato: can u recall the procedur to "export" the current installed software list to be used in a new installation i.e. edgy
[05:59] <Homer> lame, so I can't use x86-64 with Flash?
[05:59] <Jucato> oliver: er.. I don't understand what you're trying to say...
[05:59] <Homer> !flash
[05:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:59] <octan> Homer yes you can.. but in a chrooted envierment
[05:59] <Homer> chrooted?
[06:00] <Homer> is gnash useable yet? :p
[06:00] <octan>  dchroot
[06:00] <Jucato> since when was it usable? j/k
[06:00] <Jucato> is it possible to install Firefox in wine then install Flash from it, on 64-bit?
[06:00] <USlvlC> that worked out for me fyi
[06:01] <USlvlC> alien xorg-s11-sdk.rpm
[06:01] <Jucato> might work for Homer too, then?
[06:01] <Jucato> USlvlC: what are you trying to do?
[06:01] <USlvlC> dpkg --install xorg-x11-sdk.deb
[06:01] <Jucato> what for?
[06:01] <USlvlC> i was trying to install the nvidia driver
[06:01] <octan> can i delete a never ending dir ?
[06:01] <Jucato> er...
[06:02] <Homer> I'm going to try gnash since it is avaliable for 64-bit
[06:02] <USlvlC> was complaining about no xorg sdk
[06:02] <Jucato> USlvlC: the driver from nvidia.com?
[06:02] <USlvlC> yeah the 8774
[06:02] <oliver> jucato: with a view cmdline actions u can export a list of the actual installed software and use it on the new fresh install to get all the software installed again automatically (import/use it with apt)
[06:02] <USlvlC> for this quadro4 980 xgl
[06:02] <tejinder> its there 7178 version there for older cards?
[06:02] <Jucato> USlvlC: i'm not sure if 8774 will work on Dapper's xorg version
[06:02] <octan> Homer, 64 is so alpha stage.. stic with 32 bit version
[06:02] <USlvlC> then finally got twinview to work with dual monitors
[06:02] <Jucato> oliver: sorry, don't know that one. :(
[06:03] <Homer> octan: of gnash?
[06:03] <Jucato> tejinder USlvlC: the nvidia driver (nvidia-glx) in our repositories uses 7178 afaik
[06:04] <octan> Homer the hole thing
[06:04] <Homer> how is it 64-bit alpha? it works flawlessly?
[06:04] <Homer> just not flash :\
[06:04] <octan> not java
[06:04] <USlvlC> yeah that driver was locking x up with this vid card
[06:04] <USlvlC> or im jsut stupid
[06:04] <octan> erm java works now
[06:04] <USlvlC> prolly the latter
[06:04] <Vaske_Car> How do I see why refresh rate is only 60Hz, what vause this?
[06:05] <Vaske_Car> cause*
[06:05] <Jucato> USlvlC: in what way was it locking X?
[06:05] <USlvlC> would get to the kubuntu screen where blue status bar would just idle
[06:05] <USlvlC> never grew never booted
[06:05] <octan> Homer well if you says so. :P what is you want google earth? or something else
[06:05] <Jucato> USlvlC: ah that one
[06:06] <Jucato> USlvlC: that happened the first time you tried to install it?
[06:06] <octan> !nvidia
[06:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:06] <USlvlC> yeah for a while the only driver i could get to see both screens was vesa
[06:07] <USlvlC> couldnt get the nvidia linux installer to work without xorg sdk
[06:07] <Jucato> USlvlC: I think I know the problem. can you check if linux-restricted-modules is installed
[06:07] <USlvlC> yes it is
[06:07] <USlvlC> i followed that binary driver how to
[06:07] <Jucato> USlvlC: and if it's installed, can you check if its version matches the kernel's version?
[06:07] <USlvlC> yes it does
[06:07] <Homer> octan: there is a 64-bit ver of google earth
[06:07] <USlvlC> took me a week now but i finally got it working
[06:07] <octan> Homer where?
[06:08] <Homer> ok nm
[06:08] <Homer> lol
[06:08] <octan> givve tha link
[06:08] <octan> :P
[06:08] <larson9999> i'm thinking i'll wait for a few more months for 64bit
[06:08] <octan> thats smart
[06:08] <kbrooks> 64bit sux.
[06:08] <kbrooks> end of story
[06:09] <octan> lol
[06:09] <USlvlC> used the xorg-sdk.rpm for fedora core 4 or 5
[06:09] <USlvlC> ill chekc on that
[06:09] <octan> not it doesnt sux.. its just in a alpha/beta stage atm
[06:09] <kbrooks> octan, alpha
[06:09] <zorglu_> q. how do i make the taskbar to display only the window on a given desktop, and not the ones from all the desktop ?
[06:09] <octan> blah
[06:09] <Vaske_Car> where do I see if video card driver is installed or not?
[06:09] <Jucato> USlvlC: did you try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again after you installed (and double checked) that you have the proper linux-restricted-modules installed?
[06:10] <Homer> I don't get it, what sucks so much about it? :\
[06:10] <USlvlC> i dont think so
[06:11] <Jucato> USlvlC: you could try. most of the time, that kind of problem happens when nvidia-xconfig was run without the proper linux-restricted-modules
[06:11] <Homer> it's like the same thing as the x86 version except faster :p
[06:11] <yoguess> can someone help me with mounting a drive and a partition?
[06:11] <USlvlC> ah i will keep that in mind
[06:12] <USlvlC> hopefully i will finally be able to get compiz working
[06:12] <USlvlC> i want to stop using windows all together
[06:12] <Jucato> USlvlC: btw, in case the nvidia driver doesn't work, you could also fallback on the "nv" driver
[06:12] <Jucato> USlvlC: I think compiz works on the nvidia-glx driver
[06:12] <USlvlC> yeah according to the tutorials it works good
[06:12] <Jucato> except that XGL?Compiz doesn't seem to play well with KDE
[06:13] <larson9999> i don't think i'll ever use compiz and all that fancy stuff.  too busy for me
[06:13] <Jucato> heh :)
[06:13] <Jucato> good thing we all aren't like you? j/k :P
[06:13] <USlvlC> yeah i been on strict diet of comand line for a while i have a debian box also
[06:13] <larson9999> then again i like text adventure games
[06:13] <yoguess> i have 2 drives, 1st drives 20gb is being used by ubuntu and swap, I want to mount the 3 rd partition, and mount whole 2nd drive as well
[06:13] <USlvlC> but i saw that and was loike wow
[06:13] <Homer> KDE 4 will support Xgl natively so I hear
[06:14] <Jucato> probably not...
[06:14] <yoguess> i want to be able to use 3rd partition and 2nd drive just like windows
[06:14] <||arifaX> I am using k3b for the first time and I can't find out how to burn audio-cd from mp3 files or is that not possible?
[06:14] <yoguess> but tehy wont mount
[06:15] <yoguess> arifax, you have to install some stuff for it to work with mp3
[06:15] <Jucato> !mp3
[06:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:15] <Jucato> the RestrictedFormats page has instructions ^^
[06:15] <roconnor> I fixed my X screen blanking problem by fiddling with my BIOS settings.
[06:15] <roconnor> :)
[06:15] <||arifaX> yoguess, will check that out thanks
[06:18] <yoguess> arifax, go to this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:18] <larson9999> yoguess: did you try the settings gui to check out your partitions?
[06:18] <yoguess> and look for detailed instructions
[06:18] <yoguess> larson, explain please
[06:19] <llxcamxll> can i network two computers with a cross over and have windows on one and kubuntu in the other, and share files
[06:20] <larson9999> yoguess: in kde 'system settings' in the kde menu has a section for partitions.  using it sometimes helps me when i can't figure out how to mount something with commands
[06:20] <jamonation> yes llxcamxll, you need a dhcp serverinstalled on your kubuntu machine
[06:20] <llxcamxll> what about the windows machine
[06:20] <yoguess> which format will be easier to work with if i want pure linux on this PC but also want to share files on my XP laptop? fat or ext3
[06:21] <jamonation> llxcamxll: your windows machine should grab an ip address through dhcp from your linux box
[06:21] <llxcamxll> ah ok
[06:21] <jamonation> yoguess: you want to share both ways?
[06:21] <larson9999> yoguess i prefer ext2 instead of ext3 becuase if windows shuts down unexpectedly, the ext3 stuff gets goofed up and you have to 'do stuff' to be able to read it again
[06:22] <yoguess> jamonation, yes
[06:22] <jamonation> yoguess: easiest would be to use samba
[06:22] <yoguess> im running ext3 on the partitions im trying to mount
[06:22] <larson9999> yoguess i share both fat and ext2 partitions between linux and xp.  seems i have fewer problems with ext2 but they're both ok
[06:23] <yoguess> is it safe to format to ext2 in linux or do it in partion magic?
[06:23] <llxcamxll> ok, what about if i got my kubuntu box conected to my router with the ethernet and my windows box connected to the router through a usb
[06:24] <jamonation> yoguess: you can use mkfs.ext2 in linux
[06:24] <jamonation> llxcamxll: the router should handle it all then
[06:24] <llxcamxll> how do i shre files though?
[06:24] <jamonation> llxcamxll: try samba
[06:25] <llxcamxll> alright
[06:25] <Homer> ok name me a MacOS X like switchbar for KDE?
[06:26] <sasanotte> salve come faccio a evidenziare l'elenco dei canali?
[06:26] <Jucato> switchbar?
[06:26] <Jucato> !it
[06:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:26] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[06:26] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[06:26] <abattoir> Homer: ^^^that?
[06:26] <Jucato> ah is that what a switchbar is?
[06:27] <abattoir> Jucato: well i wouldnt call it that, even though it has a taskbar plugin
[06:27] <llxcamxll> any other packets relating to samba i should get?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[06:27] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> swat is nice front end to configure samba.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> but the kde front end is also very well done
[06:28] <llxcamxll> which you think is better
[06:28] <A|i3N> hey guys.. got a dell laptop... got two partitions on it, a restore partition, and a main partition that XP is on... what is the best way to install kubuntu alongside XP for a dual boot system?
[06:28] <A|i3N> Of course I want to keep the restore partition in case i screw something up.. hehe..
[06:29] <A|i3N> so i can't repartition the whole drive.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Whats on the restore partition?
[06:31] <larson9999> what the heck is up with these new pcs and the restore partitions?  can't they burn me a disk?  ok, so i run linux anyway but that seems a bit shabby to me
[06:31] <luc_> A|i3N use partition magic to partition or some other tool that is non-destructive partitioning
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> live cd + gparted is handy.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> I always backup my restore parttions to DVD first thing.. and to a network machine. Just in case
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Most of the programs on a restore partition are junk from what ive seen. Either Old.. or demo-crap-crippled ware
[06:31] <A|i3N> ok ... So just split my main partition, and install on the empty one pretty much?
[06:31] <luc_> dell laptop have 6 gig or so partition for restoring the os
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Personally id backup the restore partition to DVD. then trash it. :P
[06:32] <A|i3N> Dr_willis - I was wondering about that. Anybody know if I CAN make a bootable CD from my restore parition? It is hidden from the O/S
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> after seeing whats really on it.
[06:32] <luc_> yeah on empty partition
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> bootable cd to do what from the restore partition?
[06:33] <A|i3N> well say I wanted to wipe out my restore partition - can i make a workable CD copy of it ya think?
[06:33] <larson9999> A|i3N: on this machine i just bought, windows has a program that walks you through it as part of the 'new user' stuff
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> If you had a little linux setup. you could use Mondo/mindi to make a bootable 'restore' cd/dvd set.
[06:33] <Sokoloff> anybody speak russian? :)
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> workable? :P i just backup all the data.. or are you saying the restore partition is some how a bootable 'will reinstall the system" kind of partion?
[06:33] <A|i3N> well i'll browse through the dell utilities
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> external usb hard drives are Dang handy in some of these cases . :)
[06:34] <luc_> I've read that you can save the restore partition on dvd just google
[06:34] <A|i3N> Yes. I can access the system restore immediately after rebooting - it will wipe everything out and recopy XP and all the drivers and stuff
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> A|i3N,  so they got a menu during the normal boot process of XP to 'restore' the system eh?
[06:34] <MistaED> sokoloff: try #ubuntu-ru
[06:34] <Sokoloff> 10x
[06:35] <larson9999> there is a 'burn the restore partition to dvd' utility
[06:35] <MasterEvil`Lapto> installed newest kernel for 6.06, and now KMenu -> log out only offers "End Session".. what's the deal? I want my restart & shutdown back!
[06:35] <A|i3N> Dr_willis - yes, I just hit ctrl-F11 a few times :)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> tip - burn about 3 coppies...  of the thing to dvd. Lol
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> A|i3N,  thats good in ways.. and a bad trend in others. :P
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> now its just way too easy to 'reformat/reinstall' xp :)
[06:36] <A|i3N> yea... i'd rather have a CD
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Then ya got the 1000s of updated to redownload.
[06:36] <A|i3N> i'll search for the restore partition burn thingy Larson9999
[06:36] <A|i3N> i'm sure someone makes something
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> I like to use Mondo/Mindi to do complete 'your current setup" backup/restore image. :)
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> saved my backside a few times.
[06:37] <zorglu_> q. i have a ati igp340m video card in my laptop and kubuntu uses vesa to handle it, anybody with a pointer on the driver to install ?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[06:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> and a LOT of luck. :P
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> you may want to google to see if tat thing is even supported by the fglrx drivers
[06:39] <larson9999> a|i3n at least there is on this new pc i bought.  i can't imagine they'd sell one with only a restore partition.
[06:39] <zorglu_> well worked ok on fc4, so i guess it will be ok :)
[06:39] <zorglu_> i hope i meant :)
[06:42] <A|i3N> oh hey one more thing - got a dell/broadcom wireless adapter - but during setup, kubuntu failed to configure it properly via DHCP even though i put the SSID in correctly and there is no WEP key - any reason why it would not work?
[06:44] <Blissex> A|i3N: not all Broadcom chipsets are supported?
[06:44] <Blissex> A|i3N: ask also in #wireless for checks to run.
[06:50] <leleobhz> ehlo all!
[06:51] <cvt> xcdroast says: No root configuration file found or not readable! The superuser must start and configure x-cd-roast first
[06:51] <cvt> how do i fix that error?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> sudo x-cd-roast and configure it
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> or whateverits called.
[06:52] <oliver> jucato: i was wrong: the clone of a system was done with dpkg --get/set-selections
[06:54] <leleobhz> ive installed the knetworkmananger
[06:55] <leleobhz> but the interface icon on systray, that i want, it dont provide
[06:55] <leleobhz> what i need to show it?
[06:56] <steveire> http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/ <<< Any idea how to update this for kubuntu?
[06:57] <exs> Hello..I'm trying to install the new Ktorrent, but I get (for version 2.02) "Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: kdelibs4"; and for 2.00 I get "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in packahe kdelibs-data".. I've tried reinstalling kdelibs many many times, nothing helps. Thanks
[07:01] <trainchaser> hi i've got a question: how to get working transparency in mplayer? other windows work ok with compiz, but when i try to set opacity other than 100% on gmplayer, the movie screen just goes blue, can i make the movie transparent?
[07:02] <fdoving> i doubt that, try #mplayer or #ubuntu-xgl
[07:05] <PlancksCnst> Hey, folks.  I have a question about kinfocenter.
[07:05] <PlancksCnst> Where does it get its info?  Does it do a hardware probe each time I start it?
[07:06] <jason> HI GUYS
[07:06] <jason> oops
[07:06] <jason> my system is hesitating for 1 second every 15-20 seconds.... any ideas how to trace this and see what is causing it?  it is only in this one user profile.....
[07:07] <junkphreak> whathave you added ?
[07:07] <zorglu_> jason: looked at dmesg to see if some event occurs at those time ?
[07:08] <jason> good idea
[07:08] <jason> ok
[07:08] <Vegeta^> Isn't there a viewer (for eps files) that is like ghostview, or similar. Because the default ones just opens the picture in Konqueror (which really sucks)...
[07:08] <junkphreak> yea and dmesg  or more /var/log/messages
[07:09] <junkphreak> do tail -f /var/log/messages if you want to see real time
[07:10] <magic-1> HI ALLS
[07:10] <jason> nope, nothing showing up
[07:10] <jason> :(
[07:11] <junkphreak> what have you added sence its started
[07:11] <PlancksCnst> I can see a device in kInfocenter.  I don't know which /dev/ device it is.  Is there any way to tell?
[07:12] <Homer> how do I make the ubuntu clock use AM/PM
[07:12] <jason> cant remember exactly, but i know it has been after i was mucking about with xgl and compiz but i reversed it all as far as i know... it was fun for a day, but then i got sick of it
[07:12] <Homer> kde clock I mean
[07:12] <steveire> how do I compare two files? diff?
[07:12] <Jucato> Homer: right-click on the clock and select Date & Time Format
[07:13] <jason> Jucato: kumusta ka?
[07:13] <zorglu_> !build
[07:13] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:13] <Jucato> hi jason! ok lang ako :)
[07:13] <jason> mabuti
[07:14] <jason> does that mean i am good? (???)
[07:14] <jason> heh
[07:14] <jason> i forget almost everything... :s
[07:14] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[07:14] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:14] <Jucato> jason: mabuti literally  means "good" but yeah, it could mean that too :)
[07:14] <magic-1> Cmo puedo configurar mi tarjeta de 5.1??
[07:14] <magic-1> How I can form my card of 5.1 ??
[07:15] <magic-1> it is a Nvidia CK8S..
[07:17] <llxcamxll> smbmount exited with errors.
[07:17] <llxcamxll> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[07:17] <llxcamxll> smbmnt failed: 1
[07:17] <llxcamxll> help me
[07:17] <llxcamxll> please
[07:18] <willie> can anyone point me at a howto for shockwave flash that actually works for 6.06 please? I am going mental here trying to put a box together for a n00b pal
[07:20] <PlancksCnst> Can anyone tell me how to assign a device to a driver after I modprobe it?
[07:20] <proog> i cant install my EPSON Stylus Photo RX425 printer correctly on kubuntu!
[07:22] <proog> when i choose the recommended driver for it in the kde print wizard, it comes up with the error "
[07:22] <proog> Unable to load the requested driver:
[07:22] <proog> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX425,gutenprint] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[07:22] <proog> any ideas?
[07:23] <NthDegree> !ko
[07:23] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[07:24] <Kiongku> !mu
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <NthDegree> hmmmm
[07:24] <Kiongku> !mr
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <NthDegree> it'll be difficult to get someone korean to use ubuntu with only 4 people in the ko channel
[07:24] <omar_>  I gotta question i used this command mv file .file and I can't find the file anymore, I thought it as to hide a file but it's not there anymore
[07:25] <junkphreak> you can make you one if you need
[07:25] <junkphreak>  like mkdir .file
[07:26] <fdoving> omar_: filenames starting with a dot (.) are hidden.
[07:26] <fdoving> omar_: 'mv .file file' to get it back.
[07:30] <omar_> like this?
[07:30] <omar_> root@omar:~# mv ./home/omar/CDs CDs
[07:30] <omar_> doen's work :(
[07:31] <junkphreak> have you? made the path
[07:31] <junkphreak> # ./home/omar ?
[07:31] <junkphreak> then CDs
[07:32] <PlancksCnst> Has anyone here used a cell phone as a modem?
[07:32] <MasterEvil`Lapto> Anyone using Edgy? trying to dist-upgrade but my sources.list errors when i edited my dapper repos
[07:32] <MasterEvil`Lapto> Err http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages
[07:32] <MasterEvil`Lapto>   404 Not Found
[07:32] <MasterEvil`Lapto> is what it says
[07:32] <abattoir> MasterEvil`Lapto: the url is wrong
[07:32] <Jucato> MasterEvil`Lapto: there's no repo like that
[07:32] <omar_> junkphreak: the file used to be there
[07:32] <abattoir> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main
[07:33] <omar_> I meean the directory CDs
[07:33] <omar_> it has several files insdide
[07:33] <omar_> inside
[07:33] <MasterEvil`Lapto> ty abatt
[07:34] <abattoir> MasterEvil`Lapto: you might need restricted universe multiverse too
[07:34] <abattoir> so put that in as well
[07:34] <Jucato> omar: in Konqueror, go to where the "file" was originally located, then go to the View menu and select "Show hidden files"
[07:34] <omar_> I did it
[07:34] <MasterEvil`Lapto> abattoir: i've got the universe multiverse already.. i should add restricted to the end?
[07:34] <omar_> don't see it
[07:35] <abattoir> MasterEvil`Lapto: yes, that should do
[07:35] <draik> Jucato, you going to attend class today?
[07:35] <Jucato> yep. as always :P
[07:35] <lontra> do bring kubuntu in for an ubuntu edgy install...i need to run sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:36] <lontra> s to/do
[07:37] <abattoir> lontra: yes
[07:38] <abattoir> i assume you mean you have  ubuntu edgy installed
[07:39] <lontra> abattoir: yup
[07:39] <abattoir> lontra: yes, that'd get you KDE :)
[07:39] <oliver> jucato: i was wrong: the clone of a system was done with dpkg --get/set-selections
[07:40] <Jucato> oliver: ah.. I only know of --get-selections
[07:41] <oliver> jucato: i think, that wont work when going from dapper to edgy
[07:41] <Jucato> oliver: probably not. I'm not sure if the --get/set-selections are version dependent
[07:42] <fdoving> it's just a list of packages, some might not be installable if you jump versions.
[07:42] <oliver> jepp, anyway i quit, so long
[07:45] <omar> Hi guys, can you guys do me a favor?? , I have a lot of programs installed, I want to uninstall some of them or do another thing but I nedd more space , my disc is full
[07:45] <draik> Jucato, 15 minutes
[07:45] <Jucato> yep
[07:45] <PlancksCnst> Why can I see a device in kinfocenter but not have a /dev/ listing for it?
[07:46] <PlancksCnst> Do I need to make a /dev/ node?
[07:46] <Homer> where can I download a MacOS X switchbar
[07:46] <PlancksCnst> If so, how?
[07:46] <Jucato> !kxdocker
[07:46] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[07:46] <junkphreak> omar : whats in our home dir ?
[07:46] <junkphreak> and how big id your hraddrive
[07:47] <pepe> how i can know my free space of my hard disk???????
[07:47] <junkphreak> hard
[07:47] <pepe> ????????
[07:47] <omar> kidsgame
[07:47] <junkphreak> df -h
[07:47] <omar> for example
[07:47] <omar> go to infocenter
[07:47] <omar> pepe
[07:48] <willzzz> arg... my boot is stuck again after installing vmware
[07:48] <pepe> infocenter?????????
[07:48] <omar> pepe: go to kinfocenter in system
[07:48] <omar> pepe: do you speak spanish
[07:48] <pepe> yer
[07:48] <pepe> yez
[07:48] <j2daosh> anyone know of a way to make mac applications run on windows? or linux... anythin other then a mac?
[07:48] <pepe> yes
[07:48] <omar> pepe: your kubuntu is in spanish?
[07:49] <pepe> yes
[07:49] <junkphreak> ! /usr/bin/kinfocenter
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usr/bin/kinfocenter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <j2daosh> !kinfocenter
[07:49] <omar> entra al menu principal
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kinfocenter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <omar> de ahi a "sistemaE
[07:49] <omar> "sistema"
[07:49] <gupta> !klogd
[07:49] <ubotu> klogd: Kernel Logging Daemon. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.1-17ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[07:49] <pepe> ya lo encontre gracias
[07:49] <omar> de ahi vas a "Kinfocenter"
[07:49] <omar> pepe: welcome
[07:49] <willzzz> wtf!? my X fails to start after installing vmware the other day; tries to run KDM but now just stuck at the kubuntu logo
[07:50] <gupta> hey can klogd be switched off?
[07:50] <willzzz> btw is there a way to force kubuntu into a console runlevel?
[07:50] <omar> junkphreak: hello my friend I want to take off kidsgames
[07:50] <j2daosh> willzzz try installing the gnome version and if it work just reinstall the kde desktop
[07:51] <junkphreak> ok what games  they linux games ?
[07:51] <willzzz> i found my problem, my video drivers (nvidia kernel module) are screwed up
[07:51] <willzzz> im reinstalling the modules/recompiling
[07:52] <omar> junkphreak: yes, I installed by automatix
[07:52] <omar> junkphreak: with kgames
[07:52] <junkphreak> you know what they are called /
[07:52] <pepe_> omar como puedo instalar el driver para mi tarjeta IRDA (infrarojo)
[07:52] <junkphreak> use synatpic ?
[07:52] <omar> junkphreak: nop
[07:53] <junkphreak> synaptic
[07:53] <omar> pepe: no se mucho de ese tipo de tarjetas
[07:53] <omar> junkphreak: where to find it
[07:53] <pepe_> vaya problema
[07:53] <omar> junkphreak: apt get?
[07:53] <junkphreak> sure
[07:53] <omar> pepe: probaste en el kubuntu-es
[07:54] <junkphreak> #sudo aptget remove <file>
[07:54] <pepe_> anyone knows, how can i install the drivers for a IrDA card????
[07:54] <omar> junkphreak: gonna try, thanks again
[07:54] <voicu> i know i talked about this in here but can someone help me with the kde icons? i'm going crazy. it's a long story and i don't know exactly where i broke them
[07:54] <junkphreak> #sudo apt-get remove <file>
[07:54] <junkphreak> #sudo apt-get remove kgames
[07:55] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:55] <omar> junkphreak: yes, but I don't wanna remove every game
[07:55] <voicu> so.. first i ugraded to kde 3.5.4 then saved my current settings into a theme. i decided to downgrade back to 3.5.2 and lost a lot of settings. so i used my backup theme to restore them and most of my icons are missing
[07:55] <voicu> i reinstalled everything with the default settings and some icons still don't work
[07:55] <pepe_> i need the drivers for my IrDa card (infrared)
[07:55] <zorglu_> q. what is the kubuntu equivalent for the fedora service blabal start
[07:55] <junkphreak> well if it came in a package of games will be hard to take out
[07:56] <voicu> and now, for some reason, amarok does not create its collection
[07:56] <voicu> i really don't want to reinstall kubuntu because of gui problems
[07:56] <omar> junkphreak: gotcha, but is there a program to uninstall like a list
[07:57] <omar> junkphreak: you know what I mean
[08:00] <abattoir> !classroom
[08:00] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[08:00] <abattoir> The next class starts in a few seconds :)
[08:00] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to make kubuntu autodiscover the hostname of the other boxes of the same lan via zero-conf ?
[08:01] <gupta> are there any other 'hidden stuff' in kubuntu like "khotnewstuff" ?
[08:01] <abattoir> gupta: 'hidden stuff' ?
[08:01] <gupta> unknown programs
[08:02] <kyaneos> hi
[08:02] <gupta> undercover interesting apps
[08:02] <zorglu_> many :)
[08:02] <zorglu_> all in adept :)
[08:02] <abattoir> gupta: khotnewstuff isnt hidden... you see it in 'Get new Wallpapers', Get new themes in kopete :)
[08:03] <zorglu_> kde-apps.org to get an idea of what is available
[08:04] <voicu> ok, so amarok builds the database, mysql shows it, yet when i add something in the playlist i get the message "attempted to insert nothing" and no tracks appear inside the albums
[08:05] <gupta> zorglu_: or better : http://www.kde.org/dot/kde-apps-content.rdf ;)
[08:05] <willzzz> got it working, the latest update updated the kernel/modules and I had to recompile my nvidia kernel module ;)
[08:07] <pacman> I need to get java to participate in a live yahoo draft
[08:07] <pacman> what's the easiest way to do oit
[08:07] <enzo_>  /j ubuntu-classroom
[08:07] <zorglu_> q. what is the dpkg option to show all the files within a given installed pacakge ?
[08:07] <lontra> pacman: sudo aptitude install sun-java-jre
[08:08] <lontra> oops
[08:08] <lontra> sun-java5-jre :)
[08:08] <zorglu_> abattoir: about classroom, it would be nice to have it announced automatically with the subject. just suggesting
[08:08] <abattoir> zorglu_: yes, i was thinking of that myself, thanks for reminding me :)
[08:08] <enzo_>  /j ubuntu-classroom
[08:08] <zorglu_> abattoir: no problem :)
[08:09] <pacman> that didn't work lontra
[08:09] <lontra> do you have multiverse repos enabled?
[08:09] <abattoir> btw, for those interested, the Current Topic for the classroom is Package Management
[08:09] <abattoir> i'll make sure forthcoming classes are mentioned in ubotu entries from the next class onwards
[08:10] <pacman> uhm...I think so....
[08:10] <lontra> and what exactly 'didn't work', i.e. the package wasn't found or it installed and still doesn't work
[08:10] <pacman> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "sun-java5-jre"
[08:10] <lontra> pacman: you need to enable multiverse
[08:10] <lontra> pacman: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add multiverse
[08:11] <lontra> i think you can probably use adept too
[08:11] <lontra> but i'm not sure how
[08:11] <new_By> Hello. having my first experiences with kubuntu.
[08:11] <new_By> Can somone help me
[08:11] <teknoprep> w32codecs
[08:12] <teknoprep> !w32codecs
[08:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <teknoprep> what is the name of the program that helps you install w32codecs and alot of other stuff ?
[08:12] <teknoprep> its a python script
[08:13] <voicu> teknoprep: dpkg -i <package name>
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> teknoprep,  best i find to do it manually
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper_> teknoprep:
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper_> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper_> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:13] <teknoprep> easyubuntu
[08:13] <lontra> new_By: what's you question
[08:13] <teknoprep> thats what i was looking for
[08:13] <voicu> i.e. sudo dpkg -i <package>
[08:13] <lontra> !easyubuntu
[08:13] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:14] <teknoprep> i don't use ubuntu or any variant.. i as asking for someone else
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper_> teknoprep: those 2 cli commands I gave you will do the job
[08:14] <new_By> I am trying to start a configure script for tftp install butt it says it cant find gcc or cc
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> install build-essential
[08:15] <TheGateKeeper_> new_By: you probable need to install them
[08:15] <pacman_> lontra, I'm still lost
[08:16] <pacman_> how do I open my sources.list
[08:16] <lontra> new_By: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:16] <lontra> pacman_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <lontra> pacman_: then at the end of the lines that start with 'deb' and 'deb-src' add the word 'multiverse' and you might want to add 'universe' if that's not there too...remember to omit the quotation makrs
[08:16] <new_By> tryed sudo apt-get install build-essential that and failed
[08:16] <lontra> pacman_: then run sudo apt-get update
[08:17] <lontra> pacman_: then run sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> !java
[08:17] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> and you may have to update the java alternatives - mentioned at that URL.
[08:17] <new_By> sudo aptitude install build-essential = Konnte kein Paket finden, dessen Name oder Beschreibung auf build-essential passt.
[08:18] <lontra> does that mean it can't find it?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> !info build-essential
[08:18] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:18] <new_By> Yes no package by that name found
[08:18] <lontra> strange
[08:18] <lontra> it's in main
[08:18] <lontra> :/
[08:19] <lontra> new_By: sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:19] <lontra> maybe
[08:20] <ccherrett> anyone used a mod wheel with rosegarden?
[08:21] <new_By> sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude install build-essential = Same answare - reads package list
[08:21] <new_By> ...
[08:21] <voicu> new_By: sudo apt-get install gcc, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[08:22] <voicu> you probably need this too: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[08:23] <pacman_> okay, I've got java...how about flash
[08:23] <voicu> oh, and sudo apt-get install make
[08:24] <new_By> no it always says its reading packages ... itits Packagestatus... builds TagDatabase and then could not find build esentials
[08:24] <new_By> install gcc same thing
[08:25] <voicu> did you install everything i said there?
[08:25] <xithilinx> Could someone help me with kubuntu
[08:25] <new_By> install linux kernal headers also
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> whats the exact command you are typing in new_By ?
[08:25] <DJ-KING> xithilinx: how ?
[08:25] <new_By> sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:25] <xithilinx> I've got a problem with it freezing upon start up
[08:25] <xithilinx> during the blue bar screen it just hangs
[08:25] <new_By> for example. Just like you post them
[08:26] <xithilinx> read up on it and it has something to do with an x server
[08:26] <DJ-KING> xithilinx: as in a CD or as in the installed system ?
[08:26] <xithilinx> I installed the kubuntu alternative and finally got it to install, but while booting it up with grub it does that (also if I try live cds or try original cd)
[08:26] <new_By> It must be somthing essential that i Am doing wrong
[08:27] <xithilinx> It just won't go past that screen
[08:27] <pacman_> lontra, are you still there?
[08:27] <lontra> pacman_: hi
[08:27] <voicu> new_By: paste the whole output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:27] <lontra> pacman_: do you have a question?
[08:27] <DJ-KING> xithilinx: that's wierd
[08:27] <xithilinx> yes it is
[08:27] <DJ-KING> xithilinx: i am sorry ..
[08:28] <pacman_> what's the file for flash?
[08:28] <lontra> pacman_: please don't pm me because by answering your question i might be able to answer someone elses
[08:28] <lontra> pacman_: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:28] <xithilinx> I did the same thing with ubuntu and it gave me an error instead saying something was wrong with a x server graphical something or another not being able to load
[08:28] <DJ-KING> guys i need to stop the file resolv.conf from being rewrited every few mins
[08:29] <lontra> !tell pacman_ about restrictedformat
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictedformat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <voicu> DJ-KING: do you use DHCP?
[08:29] <DJ-KING> voicu: yup
[08:29] <lontra> !tell pacman_ about restrictedformats
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> DJ-KING,  i seem to recall theres  a service thats doing that... but thats about all i rember.. seen the issue befor.
[08:29] <xithilinx> ok, so no one has any idea what I could do to fix that xserver problem?
[08:29] <DJ-KING> voicu: i tried removing the writing permission
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> xithilinx,  what video card?
[08:29] <xithilinx> x800xl using in pci express 16
[08:30] <xithilinx> 256 one
[08:30] <pacman_> thank you
[08:30] <lontra> np
[08:30] <ubuntu> ello everyone? i need help installing my kubuntu
[08:30] <lontra> ok
[08:30] <ubuntu> if you may, pease
[08:30] <lontra> explain
[08:30] <new_By> voicu: Ok pasted. I initialy had the problemtht ./configure tels me that he cand fin gcc or cc..
[08:30] <DJ-KING> ubuntu: i did billions of Kubuntu installation today in our install fest
[08:30] <DJ-KING> :D
[08:31] <xithilinx> so is that not supported by kubuntu?
[08:31] <lontra> DJ-KING: billions?
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> xithilinx,  you may need to install the ati drivers for it to work right..
[08:31] <voicu> DJ-KING: you could set it manually or look in the man page for the setting (man interfaces) to stop changing the dns servers
[08:31] <ubuntu> ok, i have an hp computer and it has a partition in the hard drive for a recovery image of windows, what i want ti do is install kubuntu in the hard drive, but keeping that partition intact
[08:31] <lontra> you installed it on all the computers in the world :)
[08:31] <DJ-KING> lontra: as in so many times :)
[08:31] <voicu> new_By: can you give me the link?
[08:31] <xithilinx> thing is I would but i've never seen the inside of kubuntu
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> xithilinx,  it may be defaulting to the unofficial ati drivers. by default. when it should be using svga for the default. ultill you get the fglrx drivers going
[08:31] <xithilinx> so there really isn't any way of doing that if it freezes everytime I get to the kubuntu logo screen with the blue bar
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[08:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:32] <voicu> new_By, nevermin, found it
[08:32] <new_By> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23660
[08:32] <ubuntu> how can i do i?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> xithilinx,  hit alt-ctrl-F1 and go to the console and  check out the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[08:32] <DJ-KING> voicu: i do , yet it gets rewrited with the gatways address , and my router doesn't offer dns
[08:32] <lontra> man the repos are slow
[08:32] <ubuntu> it*
[08:32] <voicu> damn, i don't actually speak german :)
[08:32] <xithilinx> at what point do I press that
[08:33] <DJ-KING> ubuntu:you just run it..let the liveCD get started and use the installation scrpt , few steps and you're done
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> when the system boots up and 'hangs' :)
[08:33] <ubuntu> can somebody PM me and help me trough?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> or boot to the system rescue mode
[08:33] <xithilinx> gotcha
[08:33] <xithilinx> and I set it to vesa drivers?
[08:33] <new_By> ohh yes its german I should change the language
[08:33] <voicu> new_By, try to edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list (as root)
[08:33] <voicu> run kdesu kate and open it
[08:33] <DJ-KING> ubuntu: if you have other operating systems you just need to be careful with the partioning step
[08:33] <ubuntu> do i need to make a special partition for it?
[08:34] <new_By> ok just a sec.
[08:34] <voicu> you will find some lines beggining with # deb, delete the # to uncomment those repositories
[08:34] <ubuntu> i dont' want windows anymore, i want to have kubuntu as my OS
[08:34] <xithilinx> and what exactly do I look for or do in the ect/x11/xorg.conf file
[08:34] <Kiongku> !emac
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <DJ-KING> ubuntu: you need two partitions "swap" and your "/"
[08:34] <voicu> DJ-KING: use kcontrol to set your dns servers. maybe it will make them stick there
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> xithilinx,  the string "ati" with "fglrx" in the "Device" section.       if its ati, try changeing it to 'svga'
[08:35] <voicu> just be careful not to edit something else because it usually messes up a custom configuration
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> when you get theg actual ati drivers installed - it will need to be fglrx
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> and backup the xorg.conf file first
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> with      cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[08:36] <xithilinx> i'll be back in a few with results
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg            may also let you just select svga
[08:36] <xithilinx> ah ok
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> which would be easier to get to a basic desktop with
[08:36] <ubuntu> ok.. at the time of instalation it gives me some options of in which partition install kubuntu.... the best solution for me is to install it on the big partition and leave the recovery one alone
[08:37] <xithilinx> brb than
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> of course if ATI let people include their drivers.......
[08:37] <zorglu_> q. what is the ubuntu/debian equivalent for "service httpd start" and other init.d stuff
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> the 'service' command is like RH specific.
[08:37] <pacman_> still not able to do live yahoo draft :(
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> - /etc/init.d/whatever restart
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:37] <zorglu_> Dr_Willis: ok thanks :)
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> service = /etc/init.d/   it seems :P
[08:37] <DJ-KING> zorglu_: etc/init.d/httpd restart
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> which is why i dont see much point in it.
[08:38] <DJ-KING> zorglu_: /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[08:39] <DJ-KING> ubuntu: just simply choose a swap partition ( it could possibly be the double size of your ram ) and your "/" partition and that depends on how much space you have :)
[08:39] <ubuntu> 150gb...
[08:42] <new_By> I have edited the source.list of apt # dev every where now it is dev only but still no luck with apt install
[08:42] <voicu> first run sudo apt-get update
[08:42] <voicu> then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:43] <voicu> btw, the lines should start with deb
[08:43] <voicu> was that only a typo?
[08:44] <new_By> yes it was a typo (forgetto) why was it commentet out
[08:45] <new_By> i instlled ubunto with no internet connection was that the problem
[08:45] <voicu> yes, apt was configured not to use internet repositories (servers that hold the newest packages for updates and upgrades)
[08:45] <voicu> is it working now?
[08:46] <new_By> well :) it says somthing diffrent..
[08:46] <voicu> still an error?
[08:47] <eds01> is there any way to play my computer games (like diablo 2 or rome total war) on my linux partition?
[08:47] <voicu> eds01, you can use wine or find some linux ports of the games
[08:47] <eds01> ok
[08:48] <voicu> but i doubt wine will work with complex games like rome total war
[08:48] <new_By> yes it says it is not available ore is referrenced by other package ore it it might be old and only available from a nother source
[08:48] <eds01> anything i can do short of restarting when i want to play games?
[08:49] <bruno> hello
[08:49] <sallychung> hi....can anyone help me with installing a hp2110 all-in-one
[08:49] <voicu> i don't think so... only if you find a linux version and manage to configure your 3d card really well
[08:49] <voicu> new_By: what package are you talking about?
[08:50] <new_By> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:51] <beast> eds01: http://www.transgaming.com/
[08:51] <voicu> ok, try the other ones: sudo apt-get install gcc, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers, sudo apt-get install kernel-headers, sudo apt-get install make
[08:52] <sallychung> does anyone kno how to install a hp printer
[08:52] <xithilinx> ok so I'm back, but since I'm new to linux I had no idea what to do inside sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:52] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output
[08:52] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?how i can do to active my Svideo output?how i can do to active my Svideo output?how i can do to active my Svideo output?how i can do to active my Svideo output?how i can do to active my Svideo output?how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <gothard> how i can do to active my Svideo output?
[08:53] <voicu> wtf?
[08:53] <Kiongku> is there no mod to kick this person
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <xithilinx> where is the guy I was talking to?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <voicu> is he trying to spam or is it a bug?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:54] <Kiongku> voicu: its either a big bug.. or the thing doing it is a bug
[08:54] <Homer> !ops
[08:54] <zorglu_> i think it is a spammer
[08:54] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <zorglu_> maouaoua :)
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <voicu> he is making sure we see his post
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <new_By> ok voicu i get errors all over but in german so this is getting to complicated and i dont want to waiste your time . ill reeinstall in english
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <gothard> how can  i do to active my Svideo output?
[08:55] <Kiongku> francais de con la ferme
[08:55] <shegman> im german
[08:56] <Kiongku> ehrm.. i was not telling u..
[08:56] <voicu> new_By, before doing that, look for a german channel
[08:56] <voicu> like #kubuntu-de
[08:56] <voicu> or something
[08:56] <voicu> #ubuntu-de
[08:56] <shegman> perhaps i can translate
[08:56] <Kiongku> ah some peace..
[08:56] <xithilinx> so does anyone know how I could go of fixing my problem with starting of kubuntu
[08:56] <zorglu_> nalioth: thanks
[08:56] <xithilinx> up*
[08:57] <new_By> shegman thanks but translating is not the problem
[08:57] <shegman> k
[08:57] <new_By> k ?
[08:58] <shegman> ok
[08:58] <Jonty> Any ideas where I could find (preferably a GUI) an app for converting FLACs to MP3s en masse
[09:00] <new_By> Thank you voicu and sheman ill switch to german channel. PS. This is great i never thought that something like this exists and that tehre are such helpfull pepole
[09:00] <voicu> new_By :) well it's true, just keep asking and searching. you will find your solution
[09:01] <new_By> I am shure
[09:07] <linus__> what's going on
[09:08] <KjetilK> when going apt-get upgrade now, It reports
[09:08] <KjetilK> 4 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 176 downgraded, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[09:09] <KjetilK> I thought I had a pure dapper system...
[09:10] <KjetilK> I have a pin priority of 1001 on a=dapper, but since I had no other things in there, I thought it'd have no effect
[09:11] <KjetilK> hmm, yeah it was the pinning's fault, but why...
[09:15] <NeoSaki> anyone know how to mount a minidisc image in linux?
[09:21] <xithilinx> well I'm back
[09:22] <xithilinx> and dpkg-reconfigure did nothing
[09:28] <Vegeta^> When I want to print something to a file, it only gives me the option to print to PS-format, after that I can print PS to PDF, I want to print directly to PDF, how do I do that?
[09:29] <lontra> are there kubuntu packages for tastymenu?
[09:40] <firat_> is anybody hear me?
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> firat_, hi..
[09:41] <firat_> ok thx :)
[09:43] <Xal> Hi
[09:43] <whopper> hey
[09:43] <whopper> woot
[09:43] <Xal> Can qparted safely resize an ext3 partition?
[09:43] <Xal> qtparted*
[09:44] <Xal> or even parted
[09:44] <lupine_85> yep :)
[09:44] <Xal> Ah, good
[09:44] <Xal> So then I don't have to change to ext2? or would I still have to
[09:45] <draik> Does k3b support mp3 for burning an Audio CD?
[09:45] <lupine_85> Xal: it'd do it automagically for you
[09:45] <Xal> ah good
[09:45] <Xal> :)
[09:46] <flukej-walker> Xal: Gparted is easier
[09:46] <Xal> Okay
[09:46] <KjetilK> can it resize in any direction?
[09:46] <Xal> Thanks for the help. I'm getting back into Linux, and I'm not yet used to it.
[09:46] <KjetilK> in the old days, you'd have to preserve the starting point
[09:47] <KjetilK> draik: yes, IIRF, but there is a package you'd need to install
[09:47] <draik> package?
[09:47] <draik> got a name?
[09:48] <KjetilK> search for k3b, and you'll see it
[09:48] <KjetilK> I think it could have been k3b-mp3 or something
[09:48] <KjetilK> ah: libk3b2-mp3
[09:49] <draik> got it
[09:49] <draik> yup
[09:49] <KjetilK> yup!
[09:49] <draik> Thank you for pointing me in the right direction, KjetilK
[09:49] <KjetilK> np
[09:52] <llxcamxll> how do you change that annoying log in chime??
[09:53] <klerfayt> llxcamxll: kcontrol
[09:57] <llxcamxll> wtf kcontrol
[09:58] <klerfayt> llxcamxll: alt+f2  and type kcontrol
[10:17] <azzco> Hi I'm trying to play a game and listen to music at the same time.. running a game seems to be best in a new xserver but I can't use my amarok shorcuts then... is there a simple way to launch amarok in the other xserver?
[10:17] <Phonica> hey all, where does kubuntu keep its KDE environment variables?
[10:18] <leleobhz> how i can lock screen via console?
[10:18] <leleobhz> dcop or some command?
[10:27] <dein> how do i get my hd info in ubuntu, as well as enable sata on a hard drive
[10:27] <dein> i knew how to do it in suse ; ;
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> dein, df -h
[10:28] <dein> no, i mean the info telling what the drives name is, speed, ata speed etc
[10:29] <fdoving> dein: hdparm?
[10:29] <sallychung> hello everyone
[10:29] <dein> hdparm
[10:29] <dein> oops
[10:29] <sallychung> i need some help with installin a printer...
[10:29] <sallychung> can anyone help me?
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> dein, kinfocenter
[10:30] <sallychung> ok.... what is the URI ?
[10:31] <dein> kinfocenter doesnt tell my hd's physical stats
[10:31] <dein> fdoving, how do i use hdparm?
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> hdparm /dev/<hdx>
[10:32] <dein> ok thanks
[10:36] <nagyv> could soneone help me to update my sony-ericsson k750i's software? there is a windows binary on their site (http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=ps1_1_3_1_1&zone=ps&lm=ps1_1&pid=10244&fid=21839&esi=true), but the binary doesn't start with a simple click
[10:37] <dein> im buying a e1505 inspiron from dell, and it seems like everything on it is compatible from the start with ubuntu according to a hardware review of it
[10:38] <dein> is this a sign of the LoTD coming soon?
[10:47] <llxcamxll> sorry i had a fight at your black panther party
[10:48] <llxcamxll> i named my boat jenny
[10:48] <wilson> 0la!
[10:48] <dein> hey guys
[10:48] <wilson> alguien es de maxico?
[10:48] <wilson> mexico*
[10:48] <wilson> alguien es de mexico?
[10:49] <dein> should a 3200+ amd64 processor be running at 750mhz normally?
[10:49] <llxcamxll> i think you should go home to greenbowl alabama
[10:50] <wilson> who speak spanish?
[10:50] <dein> none of us i think
[10:50] <llxcamxll> forrest gump
[10:50] <dein> there should be a spanish channel tho
[10:50] <Tm_T> !es
[10:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:50] <abattoir> !es
[10:51] <Tm_T> abattoir: you don't have to repeat everything I do, seriously
[10:51] <dein> Tm_T
[10:51] <wilson> ok tnks
[10:51] <abattoir> Tm_T: bah, i beat you by 8 secs. :P
[10:51] <dein> do you happen to know if a 3200+ should run at 750 mhz normally?
[10:51] <Tm_T> abattoir: not from my point of view
[10:51] <Tm_T> dein: nope, over 2 GHz
[10:52] <dein> actually abattoir, your messege got in after tm_t
[10:52] <abattoir> huh?
[10:52] <dein> even for a 64 bit tm_t
[10:52] <Tm_T> dein: I think yes
[10:52] <abattoir> [04:50:21]  <llxcamxll> forrest gump
[10:52] <Tm_T> abattoir: I know I'm your idol, sure you have needs to follow my actions
[10:52] <abattoir> [04:50:24]  <abattoir> !es
[10:52] <abattoir> [04:50:33]  <dein> there should be a spanish channel tho
[10:52] <abattoir> [04:50:33]  <Tm_T> !es
[10:52] <abattoir> [04:50:33]  <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:52] <abattoir> [04:50:59]  <Tm_T> abattoir: you don't have to repeat everything I do, seriously
[10:52] <abattoir> lag on my screen i guess
[10:52] <abattoir> Tm_T: nah, you still have a long way to achieve that status :P
[10:53] <Tm_T> abattoir: agh, flood
[10:53] <Tm_T> damned
[10:53] <wilson> bla bla bla xD
[10:53] <llxcamxll> i got shot right in the buttox
[10:53] <dein> my notebooks processor is clocking at 750 for some reason
[10:53] <abattoir> :P
[10:53] <dein> help me out Tm_T?
[10:54] <Tm_T> dein: aye, sounds like some "power saving" thing is slowing it down
[10:54] <llxcamxll> make sure you running performance settings
[10:54] <dein> how do i disable it?
[10:54] <doctorshim> Kubuntu r0x0r.
[10:54] <Tm_T> but alas, I have no idea about those things, I don't use laptops really
[10:54] <llxcamxll> on the task bar
[10:54] <wilson> i need burn an audio dc but the KBlll don't suport the format .mp3
[10:54] <wilson> cd
[10:54] <llxcamxll> picture of either battery or plug
[10:54] <wilson> ok tnx
[10:54] <llxcamxll> right click and chose performance
[10:55] <dein> ok done
[10:55] <Tm_T> wilson: do search in adept, "k3b" and you might see something ;)
[10:55] <llxcamxll> any change??
[10:55] <dein> awesome, its up to 1.5 now
[10:55] <dein> thanks
[10:55] <llxcamxll> first person that i have helped
[10:55] <llxcamxll> bout all i know
[10:55] <Tm_T> dein: sounds good :)
[10:55] <dein> those performance profiles are weird
[10:56] <dein> everytime i unplug my battery, it tells me i have 15 mins left
[10:56] <Tm_T> llxcamxll: thanks for tip, my friend have issue about that also
[10:56] <llxcamxll> yeah, just set it so even with battery power its on performance
[10:56] <llxcamxll> powersaver does bugger all
[10:56] <wilson> lalalala
[10:56] <dein> hehehehe
[10:56] <dein> lets see how fast ubuntu runs now
[10:57] <dein> it was already running really fast at 750
[10:57] <dein|restart> restarting my comp brb
[10:57] <llxcamxll> k
[11:01] <boeroe> hello i ned to unstall an hp photosmart 2610. there is no dirver for linux on the hp site where xcan i find a driver?
[11:01] <NeoSaki> boeroe: hplip
[11:02] <boeroe> what is hplip?
[11:03] <boeroe> neosaki: what do you mean by hplip
[11:03] <llxcamxll> just google hplip
[11:03] <boeroe> oke thx will try
[11:04] <NeoSaki> !hplip
[11:04] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[11:04] <llxcamxll> go to adept and look for it
[11:06] <vikke> hello, i am looking for an updated, fairly easy, and ofcourse good guide of installing xgl, if anyone now of any particilary good one
[11:07] <Healot> !xgl
[11:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:09] <dein> i am back
[11:09] <llxcamxll> how goes it
[11:10] <dein> its faster now ,but hibernate and suspend still dont work
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> boeroe, check you system setting
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a printer section and drivers section
[11:10] <llxcamxll> hmm, when do you wanna hib or sus?
[11:10] <llxcamxll> shutting the lid, power down
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> it takes a while to load, but HP has pretty good Linux support
[11:10] <dein> lid would be nice
[11:11] <llxcamxll> go to klaptop configuration
[11:11] <doggie> have anyone had problems with amarok 1.4.3 and mp3??
[11:11] <llxcamxll> then go to button actions
[11:11] <dein> sadly when i try to activate hibernate just normally, it shuts down my computer
[11:11] <llxcamxll> doggie download xmms
[11:12] <doggie> I have it.... but I really like amarok
[11:12] <llxcamxll> how you mean shutdown, one button reload or full bios check
[11:12] <dein> full bios check
[11:12] <llxcamxll> ohh
[11:12] <llxcamxll> one sec
[11:13] <dein> doggie, have you enabled mp3 support in linux?
[11:13] <llxcamxll> dein have you opened klaptop
[11:13] <doggie> yes, it's working perfect with xmms... but not with amarok
[11:13] <zorglu_> i got gam_server which eat my cpy all the time, any idea what is it ?
[11:13] <dein> yes
[11:14] <llxcamxll> and you a the button action tab?
[11:14] <dein> ya
[11:14] <dein> hmm
[11:14] <doggie> the funny thing is that amarok does work with mp3... but only when i run it like kdesu amarok
[11:14] <llxcamxll> thats wierd
[11:14] <llxcamxll> if it just shuts down
[11:15] <dein> suspend is worse
[11:15] <dein> it freezes my comp
[11:15] <llxcamxll> cos i got mine on hibernate and my system performance for when its closed on userspace and it works perfectly
[11:15] <ironfroggy> why when i ping one IP on my LAN am i getting a bunch of "Host Unreachable" errors from a completely different IP??
[11:15] <dein> and to  turn it off i have to take out the battery and unplug it
[11:15] <llxcamxll> huh
[11:15] <ironfroggy> im pinging 192.168.15.104 and its failing with messages about 192.168.15.3
[11:16] <llxcamxll> so you can't even shut down through the taskbar??
[11:17] <dein> the entire system freezes and i can't even shut down with the power button held for 20 seconds
[11:18] <dein> yay lag is somewhat better
[11:18] <llxcamxll> thats wack, you tried a re-install?
[11:18] <sorush20> hi how do I make a k3b cd which is bootable/
[11:19] <dein> its always been a problem for this computer, among many different distros
[11:19] <dein> and that sucks bad
[11:19] <llxcamxll> what make is the computer?
[11:19] <dein> hp pavillion zv5000
[11:20] <llxcamxll> thats really wierd man, cos i got a acer 1.6ghz lappy and a imb thinkpad and it all works wild
[11:20] <llxcamxll> *ibm
[11:20] <slow-motion> n8
[11:21] <dein> ibm thinkpad has better support i think
[11:21] <dein> but the new one im getting should have really good support out of the box
[11:21] <llxcamxll> lets hope so
[11:21] <dein> even wireless should work
[11:22] <dein> though i have to install i686 kernel after i finish installing it
[11:23] <Doggie> newer is better
[11:23] <|lostbyte|> :'(
[11:23] <zorglu_> !gam_server
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gam_server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <llxcamxll> !forrestgump
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forrestgump - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <seaLne> sorush20: i don't think k3b can make bootable cds, what is it you are wanting to do?
[11:24] <draik> What is a good  *.nfo   file reader?
[11:24] <boeroe> i tryed to download hplip but on or the mirrors i get error try another mirror.. what is the problem?
[11:25] <llxcamxll> have you looked in adept for it
[11:25] <Doggie> sorush20, why don't you try nero linux... ??
[11:25] <sorush20> Doggie: how would you go about uninstalling it?
[11:26] <psb154> sorush20 google on damn small linux
[11:26] <llxcamxll> BOEROE: adept has the packages man
[11:26] <boeroe> hmm oke will check it out thx
[11:27] <boeroe> yep got it later
[11:27] <llxcamxll> later
[11:28] <Doggie> sorush20: sudo apt-get remove nerolinux
[11:28] <llxcamxll> can i make a boot disk of the partition i am running now
[11:28] <llxcamxll> so like i don't have to get the same packages and stuff
[11:29] <lavi> hi all!
[11:29] <llxcamxll> all over again
[11:30] <dein> i hear there is a tool on the ubuntu live cd that tells you how compatible your hardware is with ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:30] <dein> is this true and what is it's name
[11:30] <lavi> How i must configure the menu.lst to let Grub use splash image?
[11:30] <oslo> hi
[11:31] <oslo> i'd like to setup a xdcc server or a xserve under Konversation, or othe program ...i'm under kubuntu , how can i do this ?
[11:31] <oslo> not xserve but fserv sorry
[11:32] <llxcamxll> !smb4k
[11:32] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 489 kB, installed size 2032 kB
[11:32] <osh_> what's the command to find out what package (.deb) a certain file belongs to?
[11:34] <fdoving> osh_: dpkg -S file, or you can use apt:/ in konqueror.
[11:34] <osh_> fdoving: thank you. dpkg -S is just what I need. =)
[11:35] <teknoprep> wow lilo died
[11:35] <fdoving> i heard.
[11:35] <teknoprep> sucks
[11:35] <lupine_85> lilo is dead?
[11:36] <Doggie> who was he??
[11:36] <teknoprep> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Levin  for those of you who want to kno who he was
[11:36] <lupine_85> oh.....
[11:36] <vikke> !xgl
[11:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:38] <llxcamxll> !jenny
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jenny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <|lostbyte|> teknoprep, how old was lilo ?
[11:39] <Doggie> does anyone know how to do this -> http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/06/vistas-ui-is-better-than-this/ ?? watch the video
[11:39] <jnt30> Anyone faily versed in Samba able to answer a question about issues with mounting and credentials?
[11:40] <|lostbyte|> Doggie, that is xgl.
[11:40] <jnt30> I can mount correctly but my question is this, when trying to mount a share and NOT using the correct mountin information, the directory I try to mount to /mnt/whatever locks up
[11:40] <jnt30> and then I need to restart
[11:41] <jnt30> anyway to prevent or unlock the share?
[11:41] <jnt30> er, not share, the directory
[11:41] <Doggie> .... why vista?? linux rules!!
[11:42] <llxcamxll> can you access the directory in samba share jnt30
[11:42] <|lostbyte|> Doggie, compiz will evatually beat vista aero interface.
[11:42] <llxcamxll> disregard^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:45] <lupine_85> aero--
[11:45] <lupine_85> compiz already looks better
[11:45] <lupine_85> (or identikit, if you want that)
[11:46] <ufficio> sera a tutti
[11:47] <ufficio> un aiutino semplice semplice please
[11:47] <ufficio> volevo sapere come accedere ad un disco appena montato come root in modalit utente
[11:47] <osh_> !it
[11:47] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:47] <ufficio> in pratica il comando per i privilegi
[11:47] <ufficio> tls
[11:48] <ufficio> ops
[11:48] <ufficio> sorry
[11:50] <echo1> I just installed (via adept) compiz...how do I make it...go
[11:51] <Hawkwind> !xgl
[11:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:53] <jnt30> llxcamxll, I can not access the directory anywhere
[11:53] <josh_> i want to know how to get MP3's playing in amarok or any media player
[11:53] <josh_> i have realplayer too
[11:54] <echo1> bah, is it possible for xgl/compiz to run without fglrx (i have a laptop and fglrx breaks my standby/hibernate/lid close)
[11:54] <josh_> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:55] <josh_> ask there
[11:55] <echo1> aye aye
[11:55] <llxcamxll> i know this sounds stupid but have you shared the directory you are trying to open
[11:55] <llxcamxll> and or access
[11:55] <lnxmad> Hello everyone
[11:55] <josh_> can someone help me install mp3 support
[11:55] <josh_> !mp3
[11:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:55] <josh_> ah forgot about that
[11:55] <llxcamxll> josh whats the matter
[11:55] <jnt30> yeah, I can access this share if I use the proper credneitals
[11:56] <josh_> i can't play mp3's
[11:56] <jnt30> *credentials
[11:56] <jnt30> the issue is when I "
[11:56] <jnt30> the issue is when I forget to use the credentials correctly
[11:56] <lnxmad> im currently on Ubuntu right now, i was debating switching to Kubuntu, any feedback?
[11:56] <llxcamxll> josh: what media player are you trying to use
[11:56] <jnt30> so say, I forgot to add that user/pass combo
[11:57] <CraZy675> hi total n00b question.  I've ssh ed into a remote box and i want to download a.tgz file what is the command?
[11:57] <jnt30> it locks up the local directory I was trying to mount to
[11:57] <llxcamxll> jnt30: dunno man, bugfix,
[11:57] <CraZy675> when i use fish:// it keeps saying connection broken
[11:57] <jnt30> allrighty, thanks
[11:58] <lupine_85> CraZy675: you'd use sftp for that, not ssh
[11:59] <CraZy675> lupine_85: its just one file
[11:59] <llxcamxll> josh, have you updated amarok?
[11:59] <lupine_85> even so
[12:03] <echo1> How does one add links in the "Menu of Important System Places?"
[12:09] <_rob> I am trying to print out a large banner using my home printer (hp inkjet all in one deal) is there a program that I can give a word/OO/pdf document and get it to print accross multiple sheets of paper so I can put them together to make a large banner
[12:09] <DaSkreech> Hmm Not sure