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Viper550 | I saw that Kubuntu Edgy Knot 3 is looking good | 03:20 |
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Who_ | troy_s: you there? | 05:15 |
troy_s | barely | 05:15 |
troy_s | i am stretching the limits of my imagination to attempt and integrate what sabdfl likes | 05:16 |
troy_s | into some form of a whole | 05:16 |
troy_s | thus far it feels impossible :) | 05:16 |
Who_ | what does sabdfl like? | 05:16 |
Who_ | did yopu see tyhe GDMs I did today? | 05:16 |
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troy_s | yep | 05:17 |
Who_ | he seemed to like the logo and glosss style a whgile back - I don't know if his mind has changed | 05:17 |
troy_s | he would hate them as a good guess | 05:17 |
Who_ | ...reasons? | 05:17 |
troy_s | well the main problem _even_ if we were to say try something as simple as | 05:17 |
troy_s | using the existing gdm | 05:17 |
troy_s | flipping the curve on the lsplash (existing) | 05:17 |
troy_s | and using the existing wallpaper from dapper (and fixing the god awful curve anomolies) | 05:18 |
troy_s | is to find a palette in there | 05:18 |
Who_ | (we have the source from the lsplash?) | 05:18 |
troy_s | and after having looked at about 1000000000 palettes over the past | 05:18 |
Who_ | there isn't one, all three use different colours | 05:18 |
troy_s | few months | 05:18 |
troy_s | yep | 05:18 |
troy_s | there isn't even one that comes close | 05:18 |
troy_s | there are many terrific palettes out there | 05:18 |
troy_s | but for example | 05:18 |
Who_ | the palette I _like_ is the current GDM one | 05:18 |
troy_s | the closest one i have found is | 05:18 |
troy_s | one out of j. krause's palette index | 05:19 |
troy_s | colour library | 05:19 |
troy_s | but it has a few shortcomings when compared to the existing work | 05:19 |
Who_ | grr...can you give me some idea of what about the recent GDMs sabdfl would hate - if he's gonna have final say then there is no point in me doing stuff he won't like... | 05:19 |
troy_s | further, i am pretty sure i can make something virtually identical to sabdfl's liking (aka leave gdm, twist lsplash (invert a curve so it matches folders at _least_) | 05:20 |
troy_s | basically, | 05:20 |
troy_s | he created the gdm | 05:20 |
troy_s | so it will stay | 05:20 |
troy_s | the _most_ we could hope for is to get a bloody palette in place in edgy | 05:20 |
troy_s | if i had to bet | 05:20 |
troy_s | but even then | 05:20 |
troy_s | even _with_ a professional palette | 05:20 |
troy_s | there is barely any way to build _anything_ into the mix that would be satisfactory to sabdfl. | 05:21 |
Who_ | my designs are so similar to his though, just with the style he chose ofr the Human icons applied... | 05:21 |
troy_s | which ... makes it tricky to do anything. | 05:21 |
Who_ | troy_s: does he know what he is actually looking for? | 05:21 |
Who_ | or is he waiting to be 'hit'? | 05:21 |
troy_s | i have no idea, but it isn't important. | 05:21 |
troy_s | i think the problem is that everyone re | 05:22 |
troy_s | _really_ underestimated our ponder phase | 05:22 |
Who_ | does he agree? | 05:22 |
troy_s | ultimately, sabdfl appears to 'like' small tidbits | 05:22 |
troy_s | but then frankensteining them together just doesn't work | 05:22 |
troy_s | so it would involve some level of synthisis | 05:22 |
Who_ | but he likes 'polish' | 05:22 |
troy_s | well polish | 05:23 |
troy_s | is a general cohesiveness by tweaking elements | 05:23 |
troy_s | given the sources to the three elements | 05:23 |
troy_s | i can tell you that there is _zero_ way that i could achieve that with existing work. | 05:23 |
Who_ | I have been considering developing all aspects of the designs I have been doing, an lsplash similar, etc - but I think you are suggesting there is no point, right? | 05:23 |
Who_ | troy_s: I know! they are just totally incompatible, and it looks crap | 05:24 |
troy_s | well | 05:24 |
troy_s | crap is a strong term | 05:24 |
troy_s | what we really need | 05:24 |
troy_s | is to STRICTLY adhere to the system | 05:24 |
Who_ | okay, it looks far inferior to the cohesiveness of SUSE and Fedora.... | 05:24 |
troy_s | and get STEP by step evaluation | 05:24 |
troy_s | yes | 05:24 |
troy_s | but that is fundamental design principles | 05:24 |
troy_s | very _simple_ principles | 05:25 |
Who_ | many, many reviews praised suse for being one of the first distros to 'lack duct tape' | 05:25 |
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troy_s | Pingunz -- who is 14 years old | 05:25 |
Chipzz | hi | 05:25 |
troy_s | hit the nail on the head with his estimation. | 05:25 |
troy_s | hi chipzz | 05:25 |
troy_s | with me who_? | 05:25 |
Who_ | troy_s: what estimation? | 05:25 |
troy_s | and even then, as with aesop's work, | 05:25 |
troy_s | there is _zero_ percent chance to come up with something that is acceptable to everyone | 05:25 |
troy_s | so those constants we just need to accept | 05:26 |
troy_s | brainstorming might help... | 05:26 |
troy_s | but now, we are left with the teetering edge of bloody time | 05:26 |
Who_ | troy_s: apparently not on the PinunZ front...and you may have to point me to aesop's work, or tell me what it looked like... | 05:26 |
troy_s | with very little helpful discussion along the path to build upon. | 05:26 |
troy_s | um... | 05:26 |
troy_s | aesop wrote a few fables... let me see if i can find the one | 05:26 |
Who_ | yea - I think what we need is more of the approval/guidance from sabdfl along the way, like you got from him part way through | 05:26 |
Who_ | ohhhh - I though you were talking about a member of the teram!! | 05:27 |
Who_ | hare and tortoise - I am familiar | 05:27 |
Chipzz | where did /usr/share/pixmaps/grub/ubuntu-artwork.xpm.gz go? | 05:28 |
troy_s | http://home1.gte.net/deleyd/prose/aesop63.htm | 05:28 |
troy_s | uh in dapper chipzz | 05:28 |
troy_s | ? | 05:28 |
Chipzz | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=%2Fusr%2Fshare%2Fpixmaps%2Fgrub%2Fubuntu-artwork.xpm.gz&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386 says it's in ubuntu-artwork | 05:28 |
troy_s | who_ even with sabdfl's guidance | 05:28 |
Chipzz | troy_s: no, edgy | 05:28 |
troy_s | i just can't see anyone being exactly happy | 05:28 |
Chipzz | but it is not | 05:28 |
troy_s | chipzz -- don't know. there was plenty discussion regarding pairing down all of the art / theme elements in edgy | 05:29 |
troy_s | to get some space back | 05:29 |
Chipzz | and this breaks my grub setup | 05:29 |
troy_s | frank would probably be able to tell you quite off the top | 05:29 |
Who_ | troy_s: I don't care if I am personally happy with the work - that is what I do Blubuntu for - I want to see cohesivness and professioinality | 05:29 |
Chipzz | yes the artwork package was split up | 05:29 |
troy_s | who_ exactly | 05:29 |
troy_s | but i fear that even with that modest goal | 05:29 |
troy_s | it is almost impossible to achieve strictly trying to appease sabdfl. | 05:29 |
Chipzz | I know that, all the packages the new package depends on were installed | 05:29 |
Chipzz | but no grub artwork :S | 05:30 |
troy_s | chipzz email frank | 05:30 |
troy_s | who_ you with me? | 05:30 |
Chipzz | troy_s: should I file a bug report alternatively? | 05:30 |
troy_s | so here is the ultimate option: deal with completely discreet components that are completely frankensteined together (as with dapper for example) | 05:30 |
troy_s | chipzz start with frank | 05:30 |
troy_s | chipzz he is the aic and has bzr access to fix that issue | 05:31 |
Chipzz | troy_s: email? | 05:31 |
troy_s | www.launchpad.net/people | 05:31 |
Who_ | troy_s: yes - I am becoming more sure that he either needs to: lead the group and guide us, or step back and let the person he chooses guide us and the direction | 05:31 |
troy_s | do a search for frank schoep | 05:31 |
troy_s | who_ well he will hire an art director | 05:31 |
troy_s | but | 05:31 |
troy_s | i don't think anyone will stick around too long | 05:31 |
troy_s | factually speaking... the fundamental elements are very contradicting to integrate into a whole. | 05:32 |
Who_ | I think if they get space it would be pretty rewarding to work with the team | 05:32 |
troy_s | i have tried _countless_ times to start at the gdm and work to a wallpaper | 05:32 |
troy_s | but it is damn impossible. | 05:32 |
troy_s | because coming from that gdm to a darker wallpaper | 05:32 |
troy_s | for example | 05:32 |
troy_s | the _only_ things that seemed to be even remotely positive | 05:32 |
troy_s | in terms of reception from him | 05:32 |
Who_ | that is exactly how I got to the swirls (which make a good wallpaper, imo and imgfo... we've been using it) | 05:32 |
troy_s | were two wallpapers that i knocked off attempting to use an identical palette from dapper | 05:33 |
troy_s | and even the godawful composition | 05:33 |
troy_s | which resulted in this obtuse looking thing that wasn't very ... good. ;) | 05:33 |
troy_s | alas, he seemed to gravitate to them... | 05:33 |
troy_s | largely _probably_ because of the subconscious similarity to what is already present. | 05:33 |
troy_s | lets see if i can dig up the comment on swirl. | 05:34 |
Who_ | yea...I'll put up something else I tried today | 05:34 |
troy_s | well if it is gdm, don't bother. | 05:34 |
troy_s | the only real way to get some element of change is to have someone with some credibility | 05:34 |
troy_s | step up and offer an insightful review of the ubuntu look | 05:35 |
troy_s | which probably won't happen | 05:35 |
troy_s | it is visual musac | 05:35 |
Who_ | lol | 05:35 |
troy_s | which is damn hard to design for when the framework for the musac is A) undefined B) all over the map C) subject to completely useless bikeshedding. | 05:35 |
Who_ | I think if Edgy isn't much better than Dapper then two things will happen) 1. the people of digg will wonder how a team that was producing lots of interesting work didn't get much of it in, and 2) some 'official' reviewers will point out the lack of coherence | 05:36 |
troy_s | especially considering that research shows you are to treat a positive comment as 10x that of a negative | 05:36 |
Who_ | both of which may carry some weight | 05:36 |
troy_s | hardly | 05:36 |
Who_ | you don't think cnet reviews that are not good will do anything? | 05:37 |
troy_s | laf | 05:37 |
troy_s | well... let knot3 die | 05:37 |
troy_s | basically, pull all of the work and revert to dapper | 05:37 |
troy_s | is about the best we can hope for | 05:37 |
troy_s | well... | 05:38 |
troy_s | again | 05:38 |
troy_s | cnet reviews are great, but the bottom line is that it doesn't matter who you are ultimately trying to appease | 05:38 |
Who_ | troy_s: can you be any more clear on which elements of the recent GDMs you think sabdfl won't like - they are like the JMAK ones that he said were great, they are like the icons he likes... | 05:38 |
troy_s | the structure is still missing | 05:38 |
troy_s | who_ all of them | 05:38 |
Who_ | troy_s: oh dear :P | 05:39 |
troy_s | if i were forced into a corner and _had_ to | 05:39 |
troy_s | estimate on the sabdfl aesthetic | 05:39 |
troy_s | i would say that | 05:39 |
troy_s | A) he is against buttons | 05:39 |
troy_s | B) he is pro monochromatic | 05:39 |
troy_s | anyways... i must jet. | 05:40 |
KurtKraut | troy_s, let me ask you something | 05:46 |
KurtKraut | troy_s, the Edgy's design should please the community or the sabdfl personal taste ? | 05:46 |
troy_s | kurtkraut -- either would work for me. | 05:46 |
troy_s | but i fear ultimately neither. | 05:46 |
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nysosym | hi there | 01:32 |
nysosym | any icon devs for edgy here? | 01:32 |
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andreasn | nysosym: hm, kind of | 01:33 |
nysosym | hi kwwii_ :) | 01:33 |
andreasn | nysosym: I have nothing with human to to, but I do stuff on tango and tangerine | 01:33 |
kwwii | nysosym: howdy | 01:33 |
andreasn | and g-i-t | 01:34 |
nysosym | andreasn: good to know, but i have a "problem" with human icons | 01:34 |
andreasn | nothing I can do then, sorry :( | 01:35 |
kwwii | nysosym: send an email to the list | 01:35 |
nysosym | kwwii: i will do that! :) | 01:37 |
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Viper550 | I see we have some good comments on Knot 3 | 04:31 |
PingunZ | Viper550: Where ? | 04:31 |
Viper550 | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas-Feedback | 04:32 |
PingunZ | My firefox totally crashes when I open that site, rofl | 04:34 |
Viper550 | You use KDE? | 04:38 |
PingunZ | Nowp, gnome-freak :) | 04:41 |
PingunZ | So it doesn't matter actually.. I can read it but my firefox looks horrible while opening the site | 04:41 |
PingunZ | I'll upload the picture of firefox ;) | 04:41 |
Viper550 | http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7504_dualgradient.png kwwii, I made an even nicer new gradient! | 04:42 |
PingunZ | http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crashffob2.png :) | 04:43 |
kwwii | Viper550: I am running to the store to get food for dinner, I will check it out when I get back, ok? | 04:43 |
Viper550 | okay, you get your good eats and we'll deliberate later! | 04:43 |
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Viper550 | Sorting trash eh? | 04:54 |
ryanakca | Viper550: found you :P | 04:56 |
Viper550 | hi | 04:58 |
Viper550 | I've decided to while I wait for Ubuntu Edgy to come out with my theme, to contribute to Kubuntu | 04:59 |
ryanakca | :) | 05:00 |
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ryanakca | What to change... what to keep, etc | 05:00 |
Viper550 | You wanna try out my Crystal Overlay? | 05:00 |
Viper550 | p.s. Metabar whacking up APT is what caused me to switch to FC5 | 05:01 |
ryanakca | now that kubuntu is blueish purple... that mean's I'll have to change it though... | 05:01 |
ryanakca | Viper550: crystal overlay... for... | 05:01 |
effraie | Viper550: scuse me, i though i was on an other chan | 05:01 |
Viper550 | The window border | 05:01 |
ryanakca | ah, in kubuntu? | 05:02 |
Viper550 | yeah | 05:02 |
ryanakca | or ubuntu? | 05:02 |
ryanakca | good, kubuntu, link? | 05:02 |
Viper550 | http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7504_dualgradient.png | 05:02 |
ryanakca | Am I supposed to see anything? | 05:03 |
Viper550 | PingunZ: Uslab=instant win | 05:03 |
Viper550 | It's transparent PNG | 05:03 |
ryanakca | All I see is a blue background with a blue box | 05:03 |
ryanakca | ah | 05:03 |
ryanakca | How do I test it? | 05:03 |
Viper550 | Save it somewhere, go to System Settings/Control Center | 05:04 |
Viper550 | Go to Window Decorations, select Crystal, and go to the Overlay tab | 05:04 |
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ryanakca | yes, there | 05:05 |
Viper550 | how uber slow is it? | 05:05 |
ryanakca | Active window? or Inactive Window | 05:05 |
ryanakca | Viper550: takes about 10 seconds for kcontrol to load... | 05:06 |
Viper550 | Select userdefined, and use the fileselector to select your saved file ON BOTH SIDES | 05:06 |
Viper550 | (and I meant, how much memory do you have and such/such) | 05:06 |
ryanakca | but then take into consideration that this is my Server & Desktop box... | 05:06 |
ryanakca | Sysinfo for 'rkavanagh': Linux 2.6.17-7-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) at 996 MHz (1995 bogomips), HD: 38/186GB, RAM: 370/375MB, 160 proc's, 1.17d up | 05:06 |
Viper550 | oh, mine, pretty close to that, Athlon TB, 2.6, KDE 3.5.3, 256 mb ram | 05:07 |
ryanakca | I have apache + mysql + (too many apps to list) | 05:07 |
Viper550 | I'm not a server at least, takes about 3-5 seconds | 05:07 |
ryanakca | If I killed some of them it would run much faster... and if I ran swapoff on my swap.. *gulp*... that's what's keeping it going... since 370/375mb of my ram is being used... | 05:08 |
ryanakca | oooh, I like | 05:09 |
Viper550 | Nice? I'm waiting for kwwii's opinion | 05:10 |
PingunZ | Viper550: <Viper550> PingunZ: Uslab=instant win -> ?? | 05:11 |
Viper550 | Uslab=my mod of the Slab panel from SLED 10 to be more optimized for Ubuntu | 05:12 |
ryanakca | very | 05:12 |
ryanakca | brb, I'm going to go compare with default settings... | 05:12 |
ryanakca | I still have the purple windecs for some reason... | 05:12 |
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PingunZ | Viper550: I hacked slab too :) | 05:12 |
PingunZ | I'll post you a screenie :) | 05:12 |
Viper550 | Oh wait, you are the Gslab guy right? | 05:12 |
PingunZ | http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3522&cat=500&ppuser=37394 | 05:13 |
PingunZ | Viper550: That's darkmatter :) | 05:13 |
Viper550 | nice, still! | 05:13 |
PingunZ | Thanks | 05:13 |
PingunZ | how does yours look like ? | 05:13 |
Viper550 | Oooh, Compiz...if only my Linux computer were powerful...my Main Windows computer can do Compiz (off that Live CD) | 05:14 |
PingunZ | Eek, I haven't used windows in a few months :) | 05:14 |
Viper550 | My Linux compy is dual-boot, XP and FC5 | 05:14 |
PingunZ | It's not user-friendly enough for me -> Windows :) | 05:15 |
Viper550 | I'm also switching my friend to Dapper today, I hope she likes the brown... | 05:16 |
PingunZ | Viper550: YOu're in the art team .. make her desky look nice :) | 05:17 |
Viper550 | I might give her a preview of Tropic | 05:17 |
PingunZ | Viper550: I'm still waiting for a Usplab screenshot ;) | 05:18 |
PingunZ | Show her some teams and then make her desktop look like it ;) | 05:18 |
Viper550 | Uslab isn't much, it just changes the icon and removes the integrating with Zen Updater | 05:19 |
PingunZ | Screenie, screenie :) | 05:20 |
PingunZ | Or you could send the source .. | 05:20 |
Viper550 | I'm not that much of a slab fan, it's not visually different, it's just what you have but without the mods to the actual menu | 05:21 |
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Viper550 | And ryanacka, I have some other destined artwork that you can try, a new panel background! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=glosspanel_kubuntu.jpg | 05:22 |
ryanakca | *cough* | 05:24 |
ryanakca | enough system crashes for the day :) | 05:24 |
PingunZ | http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2297 | 05:24 |
PingunZ | What a sweet wallpaper ! | 05:25 |
ryanakca | yeah | 05:26 |
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PingunZ | Hey, I'm trying to edit my gtk theme :) What's the name of gnome-panel ? | 08:37 |
PingunZ | I'm using the Murrina engine btw | 08:39 |
troy_s | PingunZ did ryanakca do the stone with the ubuntu logo imprinted on it? | 08:39 |
PingunZ | troy_s: What do you mean ? | 08:40 |
PingunZ | http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2297 --> This wall ? | 08:40 |
ryanakca | troy_s: no... | 08:40 |
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Viper550 | Everyone's still here I see | 09:20 |
Viper550 | kwwii, you tried out my overlay? | 09:22 |
kwwii | Viper550: doing so now | 09:26 |
Viper550 | Okay... | 09:26 |
kwwii | Viper550: I do not like that the gradient ends at the bottom with a lighter color than the rest of the window frame, it looks like it is not part of it | 09:28 |
Viper550 | You mean the gloss? | 09:28 |
kwwii | yepp...I made like 20 different ones, and although some of them look awesome, the make the title bar stand out from the rest of the frame | 09:29 |
kwwii | one second, I will show you | 09:30 |
Viper550 | Hmm, maybe I only need the top section... | 09:30 |
kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/windowdecotest2.png | 09:32 |
kwwii | that about fits to your panel background | 09:32 |
kwwii | but then I would have to chang the buttons | 09:32 |
Viper550 | 403'd | 09:32 |
kwwii | oops | 09:33 |
kwwii | ok, try again | 09:33 |
Viper550 | I remember that overlay | 09:33 |
kwwii | that is in my screenshots | 09:33 |
kwwii | perhaps I should work on the buttons, but people kinda liked the effect, so I would hate to change things around now | 09:34 |
kwwii | perhaps we could try it though | 09:34 |
Viper550 | Just let me upload this improved version I made | 09:35 |
Viper550 | http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7516_glossoverlay.png | 09:36 |
kwwii | can you point me to your panel bg pic again? I lost it somewhere | 09:36 |
Viper550 | This one works alot better because it only skins the top, and it still gives the "doublegloss" effect on the buttons | 09:36 |
Viper550 | http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7517_glosspanel_kubuntu.jpg | 09:37 |
Viper550 | I actually kinda like the effect that your buttons have with an overlay of gloss, looks unique and fresh | 09:40 |
kwwii | boah, something is totally broken on my edgy | 09:40 |
kwwii | it cannot show any panel bg pics without messing things up | 09:40 |
Viper550 | uh oh, what happen? did someone set us up the bomb? | 09:40 |
Viper550 | Well, it was YOUR choice to use alpha software! | 09:40 |
kwwii | ;-) | 09:41 |
kwwii | no, it is my job | 09:41 |
Viper550 | I could make you a screenshot, I have different icons and wallpaper but it's close | 09:42 |
kwwii | I got it working again | 09:42 |
kwwii | had to restart kicker | 09:42 |
Viper550 | oh, never mind | 09:43 |
kwwii | I think that that last version is way too light on top | 09:44 |
kwwii | but the panel bg is right on | 09:44 |
kwwii | perhaps we could use a window gradient like this | 09:44 |
kwwii | have to see what people think | 09:44 |
Viper550 | I can adjust the overlay again | 09:45 |
=== Viper550 goes experimenting | ||
kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/windowdecotest2.png in the window deco overlays and http://bootsplash.org/glosspanel_kubuntu.jpg for the panel bg looks best to me | 09:46 |
kwwii | yes,that is your panelbg | 09:46 |
kwwii | :-) | 09:46 |
kwwii | but with that I need to make the buttons not stick out so much | 09:47 |
kwwii | make them look more like they are inside the glass | 09:47 |
Viper550 | But, the dark overlay kinda looks a bit...weird streaked inside the buttons | 09:51 |
Viper550 | That's why I used the white | 09:52 |
Viper550 | (updated) http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7518_glossoverlay.png | 09:53 |
PingunZ | Wohoo, my edgy's look is finally done :) http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39902155/ | 09:55 |
PingunZ | Comments are welcome.. Bah I stfu :) | 09:58 |
Viper550 | Awesome... | 09:59 |
PingunZ | ty :) | 09:59 |
PingunZ | I had a lot of work to make it look that way :) | 09:59 |
Viper550 | So kwwii, you like the new one? | 10:04 |
kwwii | let me check it, one second | 10:05 |
kwwii | hrm, it looks about the same as the last one | 10:07 |
kwwii | the top part of my window deco is much lighter than the bottom | 10:08 |
kwwii | not sure that I like that, sorry | 10:08 |
Viper550 | Wait, were there any changes to the actual color scheme? Also it's supposed to be like that, it's gloss! | 10:10 |
kwwii | yes, the color scheme was updated in knot3 | 10:11 |
kwwii | my point is that the effect is a bit too exagerated | 10:11 |
kwwii | not bad or wrong, just too much for me | 10:11 |
kwwii | then again, I have small screen on my test system | 10:12 |
Viper550 | Mine is 1280x1024, LCD | 10:12 |
kwwii | I have a small but very good crt | 10:12 |
Viper550 | oh, 1024x768? | 10:13 |
kwwii | yepp | 10:13 |
PingunZ | Oh, I'm goin g for a 20.1 " 1600*1200 screen :) | 10:13 |
kwwii | I will try it later on my big mac (when I can reboot into linux, working on cutting video now) | 10:13 |
PingunZ | rofl @ big mac :) | 10:13 |
Viper550 | oh, no wonder! (think you could upload the new color scheme?) | 10:14 |
Viper550 | still there kwwii? | 10:18 |
kwwii | yepp, just talking to my wife | 10:19 |
Viper550 | Some more adjustments... http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7519_glossoverlay.png | 10:19 |
kwwii | Viper550: you'll find the new colorscheme in http://bootsplash.org/KnotImages_plus.tar.gz (among other things) | 10:20 |
=== kwwii watches a film, so I am semi-afk | ||
Viper550 | Lookin' good | 10:31 |
Viper550 | Maybe I'll get some help from users...while you watch your blockbuster type video file | 10:36 |
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