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| jdub | neuralis: pong | 12:32 |
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| HiddenWolf | mjg59: ping | 12:41 |
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| mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Hi | 12:45 |
| HiddenWolf | mjg59: I'm unsure if my bug is valid, seems my usplash.conf was set to 1680x1680, upgrade issue. Wondering if I should close it. | 12:46 |
| mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Which bug was that? | 12:47 |
| HiddenWolf | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/59651 | 12:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59651 in usplash "usplash does not come up after dapper-edgy upgrade" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 12:47 |
| mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Hm. The fact that you had that in usplash.conf is still a bug | 12:48 |
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| mjg59 | What resolution is your screen? | 12:48 |
| HiddenWolf | mjg59: 1920x1200 under X. | 12:48 |
| mjg59 | HiddenWolf: And what do you have in usplash.conf now? | 12:49 |
| HiddenWolf | mjg59: manually edited to 1280x900. Will reboot in a sec to see, Seveas says it should fix things. | 12:50 |
| mjg59 | HiddenWolf: It ought to be set to your X config | 12:52 |
| HiddenWolf | Name: xserver-xorg/config/display/modes | 12:53 |
| HiddenWolf | Template: xserver-xorg/config/display/modes | 12:53 |
| HiddenWolf | Value: 1680x1680, 1600x1200, 1280x1024, 1152x864, 1024x768, 800x600, 720x400, 640x480 | 12:53 |
| HiddenWolf | I guess that's it | 12:53 |
| HiddenWolf | I've edited xorg.conf to only include 1920x1200 24bit. | 12:53 |
| Seveas | (HiddenWolf, I never said it would fix it, but it just might) | 12:56 |
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| HiddenWolf | Seveas: call me an optimist. | 12:57 |
| HiddenWolf | I'll reboot, check, be right back | 12:58 |
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| HiddenWolf | Right, that was not it. | 01:01 |
| HiddenWolf | I'd rather not have it end up being another vague bug for eternity. :) | 01:03 |
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| buzzen | madduck: found a bug already on launchpad. added my comments. Would be nicer to ahve a newer mdadm for edgy too | 01:09 |
| Kamion | mjg59: we should be using /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not xserver-xorg/config/display/modes; I have a partial patch for that but had to shelve it due to being stymied by a kernel bug | 01:11 |
| Kamion | parsing xorg.conf from the postinst is pretty nasty but possible | 01:11 |
| mjg59 | Kamion: Ok | 01:11 |
| Kamion | but relying on the debconf database there is wrong, IMHO | 01:11 |
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| LaserJock | Kamion: do you think you'd have time to take a look at edubuntu-menus in NEW? | 01:18 |
| ogra | damn, the xorg via drive is broken in edgy :/ | 01:18 |
| ogra | *driver | 01:18 |
| ogra | this thin client works with a dapper ltsp chroot ... but braks with edgy | 01:19 |
| ogra | *breaks | 01:19 |
| buzzen | madduck: another serious problem I have is if I have /dev/md0 as root (raid 1 - /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1) and i remove a /dev/hda1 and reboot. then plug the disk back in and reboot, i get errors within "initramfs" mdaadm: failed to add /dev/hdb1 to /dev/md0: Invalid argument. | 01:20 |
| ogra | hmm, looks like its the same issue as bug 57329 | 01:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57329 in xorg-server "upgrade to latest xorg has stopped my CLE266 from working" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57329 | 01:20 |
| buzzen | madduck: this problem is caused from mdadm via mdrun | 01:20 |
| Kamion | LaserJock: deleting the shipped groups on prerm upgrade seems wrong | 01:21 |
| Kamion | that'll cause problelms | 01:21 |
| Kamion | problems | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | Kamion: hmm, so would it be better to leave them? I wondered that myself | 01:22 |
| Kamion | LaserJock: on upgrade, I think you should leave them, although you'll have to work out what to do if you ever remove/rename groups | 01:22 |
| Kamion | LaserJock: speaking of which, I'm concerned that the group names are rather generic | 01:22 |
| Kamion | "basic" for instance" | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 01:23 |
| Kamion | could those be namespaced maybe? edubuntu-basic? | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | could we use some sort of prefix? | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:23 |
| ogra | sounds cool | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | because I would like to seperate them out because they have a specific purpose | 01:23 |
| Kamion | another thing I'm a little concerned about is chgrp/chmoding files that are shipped in the .deb | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | k | 01:25 |
| Kamion | dpkg-statoverride might be better for that, although it's really meant for administrator use so maybe not | 01:25 |
| Kamion | why mode 640? | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | because the menu works via group ownership of the .menu files | 01:26 |
| Kamion | oh, it tests readability? | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | yeah, so you only see .menu files that are readable by you | 01:26 |
| Kamion | oh, hmm, from the looks of things it can't be anything else | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | the first implementation I worked on was much more complicated | 01:27 |
| Kamion | well, you should probably ship them mode 640 and override the lintian warnings | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | ok | 01:27 |
| Kamion | dpkg-statoverride would at least mean that logins during an upgrade wouldn't get groups they weren't supposed to | 01:28 |
| Kamion | at present you have a window between unpack and configure where everything will be set back to world-readable | 01:28 |
| Kamion | or, if you ship them mode 640 in the .deb, where nobody will be able to read any of the groups | 01:28 |
| Kamion | since dpkg honours statoverrides internally, you can use that to override the menu file group without that window | 01:29 |
| Kamion | I'd like the group names and the prerm upgrade issue to be sorted out before I accept the package, since those have upgrade implications | 01:29 |
| Kamion | the rest can be handled more at your leisure, I think | 01:30 |
| Kamion | sorry for taking a while to look at this | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | yes, that makes sens | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | thanks for the review :-) | 01:30 |
| Kamion | oh, also: | 01:31 |
| Kamion | lp_archive@drescher:/tmp/cjwatson/queue/edubuntu-menus-0.1$ head -n2 debian/postinst | tail -n-1 | 01:31 |
| Kamion | # postinst script for willowng | 01:31 |
| Kamion | lp_archive@drescher:/tmp/cjwatson/queue/edubuntu-menus-0.1$ head -n2 debian/prerm | tail -n-1 | 01:31 |
| Kamion | # postrm script for willowng | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | ah darn ;-) | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | Kamion: ok, so do I need to bump the version or anything on the next upload? or does the reject clean the slate? | 01:32 |
| Kamion | LaserJock: the latter, although a version bump may be helpful for your own records | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | yeah, thanks so much | 01:34 |
| Kamion | if you do bump the version, please use dpkg-buildpackage's -v option to include all the changelog entries in the .changes file | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | ok, good idea | 01:34 |
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| ogra | mdz, i stole the initramfs-tools code from debians 0.73 ... but i apparently missed the second (copy_exec) part of it i'll look into it tonight from the hotel or tmorrw (they are wrapping up here) | 02:01 |
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| buzzen | i saw this on blue peter | 02:26 |
| jdong | hmm, guess it doesn't work for me :-( | 02:27 |
| jdong | BenC: ping | 02:27 |
| buzzen | don't forget to use the fairy liquid bottle | 02:27 |
| BenC | jdong: pong | 02:27 |
| buzzen | yeh, what's that pong! | 02:27 |
| jdong | BenC: hibernate has regressed on my laptop in edgy since the 2nd kernel | 02:27 |
| jdong | by that I mean 2.6.17-7 | 02:27 |
| BenC | jdong: Please try the next kernel that I am upload this weekend, which should fix it | 02:27 |
| jdong | BenC: cool | 02:28 |
| BenC | *uploading | 02:28 |
| jdong | [17179755.084000] suspend_device(): usb_generic_suspend+0x0/0x130 [usbcore] () returns -16 | 02:28 |
| jdong | [17179755.084000] Could not suspend device 5-8: error -16 | 02:28 |
| jdong | [17179755.084000] Some devices failed to suspend | 02:28 |
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| jdong | http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8278035161.html | 02:33 |
| jdong | HA! | 02:33 |
| jdong | IT IS THE HANS REISER | 02:33 |
| jdong | and you guys thought I was nuts! | 02:33 |
| lifeless | of course it is | 02:34 |
| lifeless | the very first news report mentioned his job | 02:34 |
| jdong | lifeless: not the first one I found | 02:35 |
| jdong | from news.cbs5.com.... | 02:35 |
| jdong | that one just said "software programmer" | 02:35 |
| lifeless | yeah that one, they updated it | 02:35 |
| jdong | oh, :) | 02:35 |
| lifeless | shortly after, added a big rebuttable from him | 02:35 |
| lifeless | about some guy drugging and doing BDSM to his wife | 02:35 |
| lifeless | anyhow, #offtopic | 02:35 |
| jdong | man, what would it be like married to hans reiser..... | 02:36 |
| jdong | hmm | 02:36 |
| buzzen | fabbione: i've installed the new mdadm etc but the system still will not boot with UUID in grub. if i change it to /dev/md0 the system will boot | 02:36 |
| lifeless | jdong: fwiw: http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_256204954.html | 02:38 |
| jdong | lifeless: thx, that article definitely got longer :P | 02:39 |
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| bddebian | Howdy folks | 03:37 |
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| micahcowan | Is there a reason why the automerge argument to apt-get isn't documented, either in --help or in the manpage? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/60666 is a request to add the option to autocomplete, but I don't want to confirm it if there's a /reason/ it's not documented... | 06:58 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60666 in bash "New option in bash could use updated completion" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 06:58 |
| fabbione | buzzen: did you update your initramfs? | 06:59 |
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| bod | elmo: about? | 08:10 |
| bod | my rsync login to syncproxy seems to be broken | 08:12 |
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| imbrandon | moins all | 09:08 |
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| Burgundavia | bugger, no keybuk | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | mdz: are you still awake? | 09:43 |
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| gardengnome | hi there :) i hope this is the right channel. i'd like to build a mythtv distro based on ubuntu. it would be cool if i could create my own seeds to make sure i only get the packages i need. i've alreasy found germinate and i'm wondering if it will also download all needed packages or if i'll have to have a local ubuntu mirror in order to create a CD image. | 10:45 |
| Mithrandir | gardengnome: you need to have a local mirror. | 10:46 |
| Mithrandir | (and you want it too, you're going to rebuild images quite a few times) | 10:46 |
| gardengnome | ok, looks like debmirror will get to use some bandwidth then. :) i'm also wondering how i'd make the Cd image itself. i've found references to a version of debian-cd patched by the ubuntu team. should i use that or is there some nifty tool i haven't found yet? | 10:48 |
| Mithrandir | we're using debian-cd | 10:51 |
| gardengnome | thanks a lot! this is going to be fun :) | 10:52 |
| Mithrandir | while some of the CD people might be around during weekends, weekdays are usually better. | 10:52 |
| Mithrandir | jfyi. :-) | 10:52 |
| gardengnome | Mithrandir: thanks. but i don't want to annoy you guys too much so i'll try to find out as much as possible on my own | 10:53 |
| Mithrandir | gardengnome: as long as the person asking questions have tried to research on his own first and asks sensible questions, they're not annoying. | 10:54 |
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| UbuntuFan | Will Ubuntu take over Microsoft Windows | 11:03 |
| UbuntuFan | ? | 11:03 |
| UbuntuFan | hi | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | UbuntuFan, this is the development channel, not for that type of disscussion, i'm sure someone would be more than happy to talk with you about it in #ubuntu | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | or even #ubuntu-offtopic | 11:12 |
| UbuntuFan | Rock on =) | 11:13 |
| UbuntuFan | I hate a development question | 11:15 |
| UbuntuFan | have* | 11:15 |
| UbuntuFan | may I. | 11:15 |
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| UbuntuFan | Q-FUNK, Sup brutha? | 11:16 |
| UbuntuFan | it's Mark. Am rounding up the Art team to bring out the bling bling! | 11:16 |
| Q-FUNK | oh :) | 11:17 |
| UbuntuFan | How are you man? | 11:17 |
| Q-FUNK | hm... not much. still walking circles around 3 different countries' immigrations just to get around starting a company. | 11:17 |
| Q-FUNK | citizenship (or lack of) prevents everything. | 11:18 |
| UbuntuFan | oh ok. Good luck mate. | 11:18 |
| UbuntuFan | Very true...let me know if I can donate and help!! | 11:18 |
| UbuntuFan | thats what I'm about, giving back. | 11:18 |
| UbuntuFan | =) | 11:18 |
| Q-FUNK | plenty of brilliant business ideas, some of which have been in the planning stage for several months. all blocked becuase EU countries discourage outsiders. | 11:19 |
| UbuntuFan | EU grrrr... | 11:19 |
| UbuntuFan | I feel for you man. | 11:19 |
| Q-FUNK | ...althoguh it has to be said that their definition of outsider is... silly. I've been here for nearly 9 yeas, dammit | 11:19 |
| UbuntuFan | Anything I can do to help | 11:19 |
| UbuntuFan | let me knwo | 11:19 |
| UbuntuFan | know even. | 11:19 |
| Q-FUNK | anyhow... I was just wonderng, who is responsible for packaging the firefox language packs? the firefox 2.0b2 upgrade breaks because language packs don't match. | 11:21 |
| UbuntuFan | imbrandon is .... | 11:22 |
| UbuntuFan | hes here i think | 11:22 |
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| Q-FUNK | erm. probably not much. it's all political and all in finland's hands. I jsut need one country somewhere to acknoeledge how long I've been here and grant me citizenship. | 11:22 |
| UbuntuFan | giftnudel, welcome it's mark here just slipped in from outta space..to see that sad look upon ure face. | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | UbuntuFan, no i'm not responisable for firefox, and can you please take non development disscussion to #ubuntu-offtopic | 11:23 |
| imbrandon | Q-FUNK, whats the problem? | 11:23 |
| Q-FUNK | imbrandon: parsing errors in chrome://browser/content/browser.xul for non-C locales | 11:24 |
| Q-FUNK | afaik caused by slight changes in the UI between beta1 and beta2 | 11:24 |
| UbuntuFan | imbrandon, I am sorry. but you gotta admit that was pretty funny. | 11:24 |
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| Q-FUNK | imbrandon: or well, is this generally a good channel to report bugs in edgy, since we are so close to releease? | 11:26 |
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| imbrandon | Q-FUNK, normaly this is ok or #ubuntu+1 or LP but right this very second i'm trying to take care of another issue, give me just a few minutes | 11:26 |
| Q-FUNK | sure. np :) | 11:27 |
| buzzen | fabbione: yes | 11:27 |
| buzzen | fabbione: ok... i thought i had. but maybe not ? :/ | 11:31 |
| buzzen | fabbione: just redid it and now its working :-) shouldnt the mdadm install script run it though ? | 11:32 |
| fabbione | buzzen: it should.. i will check why it didn't | 11:32 |
| buzzen | this sort of solves this bug then https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/60623 since thats based on wrong ordering of mdx devices. although mdrun still has some problems. | 11:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60623 in mdadm "Upgrading mdadm package is impossible - can't upgrade while raid arrays active" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 11:35 |
| buzzen | see this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/38438 | 11:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38438 in mdadm "boot confused after stopping array" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:35 |
| buzzen | oops. wrong one. | 11:35 |
| buzzen | i mean this one: https://launchpad.net/bugs/60646 | 11:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60646 in initramfs-tools "Unable to boot with degraded array" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 11:36 |
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| buzzen | fabbione: it's also not possible to upgrade to madm normally: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/60623 | 11:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60623 in mdadm "Upgrading mdadm package is impossible - can't upgrade while raid arrays active" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 11:38 |
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| fabbione | buzzen: yes i am reading.. give me a break.. it's the same bug you pasted 10 lines above | 11:39 |
| buzzen | fabbione: yes sorry that was an accident. | 11:40 |
| buzzen | fabbione: I pasted the wrong bug and didn't realise it was also a related one. | 11:41 |
| fabbione | i will look into that on monday | 11:42 |
| buzzen | sure | 11:42 |
| buzzen | thanks | 11:42 |
| fabbione | it needs a bit too much work for me to trash my weekend | 11:42 |
| buzzen | there is a fix in debian according to madduck | 11:42 |
| fabbione | yes i read in the bug | 11:42 |
| fabbione | but jumping to 2.5 is not an option | 11:42 |
| buzzen | aah ok.. i wrote it. (i just got up) | 11:42 |
| fabbione | we need to backport the fix | 11:43 |
| buzzen | shame :/ | 11:43 |
| buzzen | 2.5 would be nice | 11:43 |
| fabbione | buzzen: we are at about 1 month from release. i don't want extra bug coming in with 2.5 | 11:43 |
| fabbione | it will be in edgy+1 | 11:43 |
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| fabbione | buzzen: also.. the bug is not in mdadm userland itself.. it's a bit more complicated compared to what you write in the bugs | 11:45 |
| fabbione | the kernel should be sending a udev event on raid creation and apparently it doesn't | 11:46 |
| fabbione | that result in udev requiring a manual kick | 11:46 |
| fabbione | and that can only happen from mdadm in userland | 11:46 |
| buzzen | ok | 11:48 |
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| fabbione | does anybody remember what's the canonical way to enable compiz?` | 12:10 |
| fabbione | iirc there was something in the menus, but i can't find it | 12:11 |
| Treenaks | fabbione: compiz --strict-binding --indirect-rendering --replace & gnome-window-decorator --replace& | 12:11 |
| Treenaks | works for me | 12:11 |
| fabbione | Treenaks: let's give it a shot | 12:11 |
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| fabbione | apparently it doesn't like nvidia | 12:14 |
| Treenaks | it doesn't.. yet | 12:15 |
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| Treenaks | nvidia doesn't have some GL extension yet | 12:15 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 12:15 |
| giftnudel | GL_texture_from_pixmap I guess ;) | 12:16 |
| fabbione | compiz is a wrapper | 12:16 |
| Treenaks | giftnudel: something like that :) | 12:16 |
| fabbione | yeah that one | 12:16 |
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| giftnudel | fabbione: this is a driver problem, rumors say it will be fixed in the next driver release | 12:16 |
| fabbione | ahhh | 12:16 |
| fabbione | no | 12:16 |
| fabbione | it's the wrapper that is wrong | 12:17 |
| fabbione | or better | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | hey all | 12:17 |
| fabbione | nvidia-glx does something wrong with divert | 12:17 |
| Treenaks | it LD_PRELOADs crap | 12:17 |
| Treenaks | EEK | 12:17 |
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| fabbione | and it points to the wrong lib | 12:17 |
| giftnudel | still, the extensions is probably still missing | 12:17 |
| fabbione | no actually no | 12:17 |
| fabbione | the wrapper is correct | 12:19 |
| fabbione | so what driver do you use for that to work? | 12:19 |
| fabbione | nv ? | 12:19 |
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| Treenaks | afaik only ati and intel work atm | 12:20 |
| Treenaks | and maybe bits of via | 12:20 |
| Treenaks | (as nv doesn't do dri..) | 12:20 |
| fabbione | humpf | 12:22 |
| fabbione | ok this just can't work | 12:25 |
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| giftnudel | fabbione: do you have a laptop with an intel chipset? | 12:27 |
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| giftnudel | it works quite well on those | 12:27 |
| fabbione | giftnudel: no i don't | 12:28 |
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| Kamion | Mithrandir: I'm surprised Xubuntu worked well enough for knot-3 - its seeds were still pointing at the old kernel version | 12:37 |
| Kamion | I've merged the seeds now ... | 12:37 |
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| Kamion | raphink: Why does ichthux-artwork-usplash conflict with kubuntu-artwork-usplash? Why not just give the usplash a different file name and register the alternative as usual? | 12:53 |
| raphink | Kamion: yes, I agree | 12:53 |
| raphink | Kamion: I yet have to find out how to give it another name | 12:53 |
| raphink | this is something I planned to look at this week-end since it was already reported to me | 12:54 |
| raphink | :)= | 12:54 |
| raphink | thanks for pointint it though :) | 12:54 |
| raphink | s/pointint/poinging | 12:54 |
| raphink | pointing | 12:54 |
| raphink | raah | 12:54 |
| raphink | ;) | 12:54 |
| Kamion | is that hard? just install it as ichthux-splash.so rather than kubuntu-splash.so and edit the maintainer scripts | 12:54 |
| raphink | Kamion: yes I guess it's just changing the name in the makefile | 12:54 |
| raphink | I have to test | 12:54 |
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| Kamion | I'd rather not accept it until that's done since mistakes in alternatives often have complicated upgrade implications | 12:54 |
| Kamion | sorry for the delay in reviewing | 12:55 |
| raphink | alright Kamion :) | 12:55 |
| raphink | no problem | 12:55 |
| raphink | are you ok with ichthux-meta ? | 12:55 |
| Kamion | the conflict with kubuntu-default-settings is also a bit nasty | 12:55 |
| raphink | well no there's no choice for this one | 12:55 |
| Kamion | if that can be avoided, it would be good, although I don't think so many alternatives are involved there | 12:55 |
| Kamion | oh, how come? | 12:55 |
| raphink | becaue of the way kubuntu patches KDE | 12:55 |
| raphink | unless we patch kdelibs to add /usr/share/ichthux-default-settings in addition to /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings | 12:56 |
| raphink | but that would mean patching a main package for ichthux so I don't think this is a great idea | 12:56 |
| Kamion | ichthux-meta should be updated to the current way *-meta is done | 12:56 |
| raphink | Kamion: ok I'll have a look at the new way :) | 12:56 |
| Kamion | with an update that just uses germinate-update-metapackage, and an update.cfg pointing to your seeds | 12:56 |
| raphink | alright :) | 12:56 |
| Kamion | it would also be a good idea to update the seed dist to edgy :-) | 12:56 |
| Fujitsu | Thankyou Kamion :) | 12:56 |
| raphink | I had just used the Dapper way so far | 12:56 |
| raphink | hehe | 12:57 |
| Kamion | unless it's not used I guess | 12:57 |
| raphink | Kamion: for ichthux-default-settings, I see two options as I said: | 12:57 |
| raphink | 1) conflict with kubuntu-default-settings | 12:57 |
| raphink | 2) patch kdebase | 12:57 |
| raphink | or maybe there could be a third | 12:57 |
| raphink | 3) make it possible for derivatives to add their path as a setting in kde | 12:58 |
| Kamion | are you doing all the *-meta bits in your seeds now, or are you still manually patching stuff? | 12:58 |
| Kamion | raphink: ok, never mind for now then | 12:58 |
| Kamion | it looks like you were manually patching dependencies at one point, which is a bit suboptimal | 12:58 |
| raphink | Kamion: in Ichthux 6.09 I had some manual patches because there were packages not in Ubuntu | 12:58 |
| raphink | but for Edgy we want to put all the packages in Ubuntu and thus only use edgy seeds | 12:58 |
| Kamion | you could probably solve that by grabbing all the Packages and Sources files and catting them together for germinate | 12:59 |
| Kamion | even without them all in Ubuntu | 12:59 |
| raphink | hmmm | 12:59 |
| raphink | well I wanted to use the existing code in ubuntu-meta and not patch it too much | 12:59 |
| Kamion | nod | 01:00 |
| raphink | so it was rather hard to add support for multiple repositories as it was | 01:00 |
| raphink | to me at least ;) | 01:00 |
| Kamion | anyway, not much to be actually unhappy with in ichthux-meta, just comments about how to improve it | 01:00 |
| Kamion | I'd prefer to wait until ichthux-default-settings is ready though | 01:00 |
| raphink | thank you Kamion I appreciate it | 01:00 |
| raphink | alright I'll be working on this asap then :) | 01:01 |
| Kamion | Fujitsu: np, I don't have enough time this weekend to clear out the whole queue but I thought I'd do a bit of it while I was doing a sync for myself anyway | 01:01 |
| raphink | as for superkaramba-theme-losungen there's an issue with it Kamion | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah, thanks :) | 01:01 |
| raphink | so please ignore it if you come over it | 01:01 |
| raphink | :s | 01:01 |
| raphink | we discovered this issue a few hours ago | 01:01 |
| Kamion | raphink: do you want it rejected? | 01:01 |
| raphink | Kamion: for now, yes :( | 01:02 |
| raphink | I'd love to have it but the texts it uses are not free | 01:02 |
| raphink | :( | 01:02 |
| raphink | we're trying to see if we can port it to use libsword instead | 01:02 |
| raphink | but it might not be easy | 01:02 |
| raphink | so for now, just reject it | 01:02 |
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| Kamion | ok, rejected, thanks for the note | 01:03 |
| Kamion | do try to have debian/copyright match the actual licence ;-) | 01:03 |
| raphink | Kamion: since we plan to release ichthux 6.10 within Edgy 6.10 (i.e. same release schedule from now on) do you think I could add our specs to ubuntu's somehow? | 01:03 |
| Kamion | raphink: you'd probably have to ask #launchpad about technical details; that said, I think it might be easier from a scheduling point of view if they were separate | 01:04 |
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| Kamion | so that you can target specs to milestones freely without having to get Ubuntu drivers to do it | 01:05 |
| raphink | oh yes I see | 01:05 |
| raphink | ok | 01:05 |
| raphink | good point :) | 01:05 |
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| zyga | hey guys :) | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | Hi zyga. | 01:06 |
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| Fujitsu | Kamion, sorry about that dodgy geda-gschem shouldn't-have-been-a-sync... I must have missed that went I went through all the *geda*... :( | 01:20 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: you test built the geda-gschem package? | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, yes. | 01:36 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: ahh...it's deps are waiting to be built | 01:38 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, yes. | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | that's a pity | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | it looks sane | 01:39 |
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| Fujitsu | I hope it is.. | 01:40 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: oh well, I just did as janimo asked me to do.. | 01:40 |
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| giftnudel | on the http://ubuntu.com/testing/knot3 page, there is still the message about knot3 not being released (which according to the topic seems wrong) | 01:48 |
| Fujitsu | And there are no announcements on lists yet... | 01:49 |
| giftnudel | oh, funny, I thought this was done yesterday | 01:50 |
| Fujitsu | Thankyou Hobbsee :) | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: :) | 01:52 |
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| giftnudel | pitti: you changed bug 32343 to fix committed in dapper, does that mean the packages are already in dapper and need time to sync to the mirrors? | 02:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 32343 in gutenprint "printer Epson Stylus DX4850 does not work properly" [High,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32343 | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | giftnudel: it's likely fixed in edgy | 02:08 |
| Hobbsee | giftnudel: but check launchpad | 02:08 |
| giftnudel | well, this is a serious bug for users of that printer, it should be fixed in dapper too | 02:08 |
| Hobbsee | which then has the potential to break other things. see !releases | 02:09 |
| giftnudel | Hobbsee: well, I just don't like the "it's fixed in edgy, please upgrade" mentality, since dapper is supported, but I still get your point ;) | 02:10 |
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| Hobbsee | giftnudel: supported, ie, security fixes, yes. new features which bring in new bugs? no. that's what the development release is for | 02:11 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, look at the bug report. Pitti created a task specifically for Dapper, and marked it as committed... | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | ah okay. i didnt check that sorry | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah, it's a little odd.. | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | Happy SFD! | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu | Just, jsgotangco :) | 02:12 |
| giftnudel | my new printer works with this update completely with open drivers, so this is really a good SFD day! | 02:13 |
| tseng | Mithrandir: do you have a list of known issues for knot3 yet? its acting completely flakey on 64-bit | 02:13 |
| Mithrandir | tseng: what part of it is? | 02:14 |
| tseng | Mithrandir: i originally installed a 32-bit dapper cd | 02:14 |
| tseng | Mithrandir: gnome, ubiquity | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: can you add the debian --> ubuntu debdiff of kvdr please? (and in all future merges) - it's useful to have both. | 02:14 |
| Mithrandir | tseng: hmm. | 02:14 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, OK, shall do. | 02:14 |
| Mithrandir | tseng: I don't know of any "known issues page", but maybe there's something under EdgyEft/Knot3/? | 02:14 |
| tseng | Mithrandir: also if i plug/unplug power the entire thing hangs | 02:14 |
| tseng | i looked at the wiki page | 02:14 |
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| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, done. | 02:16 |
| tseng | ill try a dapper cd and see what happens | 02:16 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: thanks | 02:17 |
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| pitti | Hobbsee: committed != released | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: true. my error for not checking the bug report first. | 02:40 |
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| Hobbsee | fabbione: do you own ubuntulog? | 03:03 |
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| bluefoxicy | Another day, another fucking annoyance. I have to get my room sprayed, get a shower, get coated in this weird goo, then leave it on for hours while I feel all icky. | 03:17 |
| bluefoxicy | Plus I had to clean my room yesterday | 03:17 |
| neuralis | mdz: ping | 03:19 |
| tseng | bluefoxicy: hey dude, off topic. | 03:27 |
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| jsgotangco | watch language too | 03:33 |
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| robertj | has anyone here created an Ubuntu image for s3 ECC? | 03:53 |
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| sladen | s3 eec? | 03:55 |
| robertj | sladen: amazon's clustering system | 03:57 |
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| robertj | sladen: they have default images for core 3 & 4, but that be it | 03:59 |
| robertj | (it's the same cluster that hosts s3) | 04:00 |
| robertj | (btw, s3fs is shaping up to be great stuff) | 04:01 |
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| tseng | mjg59: is there a reason for 915resolution not to be on the livecd? | 04:22 |
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| BenC | pitti: ping | 06:55 |
| pitti | BenC: pong (but about to leave) | 06:56 |
| BenC | pitti: dapper upload is done | 06:56 |
| pitti | BenC: ah, great | 06:56 |
| BenC | kernels should be built, and I just uploaded lrm and linux-meta | 06:56 |
| zul | and the breezy/hoary kernels are done as well yesterday | 06:56 |
| pitti | BenC: breezy and hoary are built | 06:56 |
| pitti | BenC: I assume lrm can only start building once I publish the kernel to the archive | 06:57 |
| === BenC is doing a nice dapper-proposed-updates upload too | ||
| pitti | BenC: I'll release it properly on Monday | 06:57 |
| BenC | pitti: probably | 06:57 |
| pitti | BenC, zul: thanks for the fast update | 06:57 |
| zul | no probs just doing my thing | 06:57 |
| zul | thank my wife as well for being tolerant ;) | 06:58 |
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| zul | wohoo | 07:00 |
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| alex-weej | can anyone explain why i am getting bombarded with ancient email on ubuntu-devel@lists? | 07:16 |
| alex-weej | stuff as far back as 02 July 2006 is being delivered to me NOW | 07:16 |
| Treenaks | alex-weej: someone did some moderator work | 07:22 |
| Treenaks | alex-weej: which hadn't been done for some time | 07:23 |
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| alex-weej | Treenaks: fair play | 07:30 |
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| desrt | wow. awesome. updated initramfs-tools, udev, usplash -> fun to watch my initramfs be regenerated 3 times | 10:18 |
| crimsun | better to err on the side of inefficiency than to have your initramfs not be properly regenerated, eh? | 10:19 |
| desrt | better to have apt exit hooks | 10:19 |
| crimsun | (similar issue applies for various ttf packages0 | 10:19 |
| desrt | similar issues for any package that needs to update scrollkeeper/gtkiconcache/etc/etc | 10:19 |
| _ion | dpkg 2 will have that AFAIK. :-) | 10:25 |
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| desrt | anyone know where i could get a linux-source-2.6.17-6.18 tarball? | 10:43 |
| desrt | sleep on my laptop has regressed -- just noticed | 10:45 |
| desrt | and it's gone from the archive already :( | 10:45 |
| zul | launchpad | 10:46 |
| desrt | how does that work? | 10:46 |
| zul | you download the source from launchpad and build it from there | 10:47 |
| zul | what regression btw? | 10:48 |
| crimsun | except if the release has been removed, you get a 404 when you attempt to navigate to said release | 10:48 |
| desrt | ya... so it's been removed. | 10:48 |
| desrt | which is why i ask :) | 10:48 |
| crimsun | I think what you might have to do is pull git tag a64b7fbd1d977443d45ad8726f00fdfcbfb77ba9 | 10:48 |
| desrt | where should i clone from? | 10:49 |
| crimsun | ubuntu-2.6.git (kernel.org) | 10:49 |
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| desrt | yup. definitely a kernel problem. even happens in singleusermode | 10:50 |
| Arador | while you're at it you could do a bisection search in that git tree to find out what change broke your box, and report it ;) | 10:50 |
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| desrt | Arador; uhm.. that's sort of the plan | 10:51 |
| Arador | oh | 10:51 |
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| Will | http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot3 | 10:55 |
| Will | This pages shows knot3 as not ready | 10:55 |
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| desrt | crap. | 10:56 |
| desrt | the git archive is mucked up | 10:56 |
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| desrt | someone has 'www.kernel.or' in there somewhere as a source | 10:57 |
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| shining | is anyone aware of any troubles with last mdadm update ? | 11:07 |
| shining | I get something like "md : md* is in use" in dmesg, for my 3 raid devices, md0, md1 and md2. if nobody knows about mdadm, I'll just report a bug | 11:09 |
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| sbalneav | Hello all. | 11:10 |
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| sbalneav | Who's an autoconf maven here? ogra and I are merging some upstream ltsp stuff, working on the "muekow takes over the world" weekend, and I need some help with bin_SCRIPTS | 11:11 |
| crimsun | ogra: pong | 11:11 |
| sbalneav | crimsun: he's afk at the moment. | 11:11 |
| ogra | crimsun, did you see that i reopened the via driver bug yesterday ? | 11:11 |
| sbalneav | lol | 11:12 |
| sbalneav | ok, he's not. | 11:12 |
| crimsun | ogra: no (not familiar w/ bug) | 11:12 |
| ogra | you uploaded the fix :) | 11:12 |
| ogra | looking up the bug # | 11:12 |
| crimsun | ogra: are we talking via (graphics) or via (sound)? | 11:12 |
| ogra | graphics | 11:13 |
| ogra | you disabled a patch in the 1.0.2 package | 11:13 |
| ogra | it seems to have regressed again in 1.1.1 | 11:13 |
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| ogra | hrm, why did malone not send any mail about it ... | 11:15 |
| desrt | crimsun; ok. i have the git. | 11:15 |
| ogra | crimsun, bug 57329 | 11:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57329 in xorg-server "upgrade to latest xorg has stopped my CLE266 from working" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57329 | 11:15 |
| crimsun | ogra: err, no wonder I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't have anything to do with xorg-server. | 11:16 |
| desrt | oh man. 300000 lines of changes | 11:16 |
| desrt | i love that | 11:16 |
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| ogra | crimsun, hmm, right, i didnt look at the changelog, only at the malone entry :) | 11:18 |
| ogra | sorry then | 11:18 |
| crimsun | np | 11:18 |
| ogra | i'll talk to rodarvus | 11:18 |
| === desrt thinks crimsun has the wrong tag | ||
| crimsun | desrt: that's the changelog tag, so it very well could be slighter older than the actual 6.18 release. What are you running into? | 11:21 |
| desrt | 2.6.15 era changes | 11:21 |
| crimsun | err, I meant compilation issues | 11:21 |
| desrt | no compile issues | 11:22 |
| desrt | the old kernel would wake up from sleep. the new one will not. | 11:22 |
| desrt | that's all | 11:22 |
| crimsun | you mentioned 6.18, so I pointed you toward it. Did I miss something? | 11:23 |
| desrt | i think i'm just very confused on how y'all use git :) | 11:23 |
| desrt | these old changes i'm seeing are probably merges from dapper or something... | 11:24 |
| desrt | i want to bisect between the versions that were released as the last -6 and the first -7 | 11:24 |
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