[12:01] <Agrajag> cwatson: what I said before.
[12:01] <ompaul> Agrajag, free or costless?
[12:01] <Agrajag> ompaul: free, not Free.
[12:01] <ompaul> costless then
[12:01] <Agrajag> yes
[12:01] <klausos> sethk, i think that exist a pack called "essentials" os something, how do i install it??
[12:01] <klausos> sethk, i had it before, i just don't know how
[12:01] <sethk> klausos, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:02] <sethk> klausos, note, no s at the end
[12:02] <cwatson> I thought the player was free of cost, but the server and workstation cost money.
[12:02] <klausos> sethk, thank's
[12:02] <mbx2112> Tried to install jedit from .deb file, get errors installing and can't purge or remove.... "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal."
[12:02] <mbx2112> anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[12:02] <kitche> cwatson: they changed it about 5 months or so
[12:02] <cwatson> kitche: sweet
[12:02] <Agrajag> anyway, theBeno: vmware serve is fairly easy to install, you get a tarball to extract and you just run a perl script which installs it for you
[12:03] <Vegeta^> Has anyone had problems with installing Java, where it freezes on 28%???
[12:03] <Agrajag> theBeno: you'll need to have build-essential and the kernel headers installed though
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: you using synaptic?
[12:03] <THX-1138> Vegeta^ - The jave binary downloaded from the Sun site?
[12:04] <Vegeta^> TheGateKeeper_: No Add/remove thing
[12:04] <aceracer24> Anyone here know InitNG really well?
[12:04] <theBeno> Agrajag, awesome.  How do I add build-essentials and kernel headers?
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: it will be waiting for you to agree to a licence which you will only see in a terminal
[12:05] <Storkme> erm.. how do i make my /dev/ not empty :| ?
[12:05] <Agrajag> theBeno: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:05] <Vegeta^> TheGateKeeper_: Is there no way I can accept that in Add/REmove-thing
[12:06] <botxj> i have a question, can a USB flash drive that's formatted as FAT32 be read in Ubuntu?
[12:06] <sethk> Storkme, /dev is a pseudo file system created at boot time.  you reboot.
[12:06] <cbx33> botxj, yes
[12:06] <sethk> Storkme, sorry, I mean created at install time
[12:06] <THX-1138> botxj - yes
[12:06] <sethk> Storkme, do you delete your /dev?
[12:06] <botxj> cbx33: how? please
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: I don't use it, if you can open up a terminal to show you the output like synaptic, then yes, otherwise no use the cli
[12:07] <Storkme> sethk, there's a tool for rebuilding it, something like 'mkdev' but i can't find it
[12:07] <sethk> Storkme, mkdev is a command, but you need to know all the arguments to it
[12:07] <sethk> Storkme, mkdev creates a single node in a /dev file system
[12:07] <sethk> Storkme, you run it once for each node
[12:07] <Storkme> root@ubuntu64:/dev# mkdev
[12:07] <Storkme> bash: mkdev: command not found
[12:07] <cafuego> mknod is what he means
[12:07] <sethk> Storkme, there is usually a script to create all the nodes, let me see if ubuntu installs is
[12:07] <sethk> right, sorry, mknod
[12:08] <dk06> how do i shutdown my computer in console?
[12:08] <optimusprime> will I lose anything if I delete the kernel versions that are in the boot loader? I think that thing is called a bootloader?
[12:08] <cafuego> sethk: There is, /dev/MAKEDEV
[12:08] <dk06> i need to do this now
[12:08] <THX-1138> nice catch cafuego
[12:08] <sethk> right, /dev/MAKEDEV
[12:08] <botxj> how do i get ubuntu to see my usb flash drive?
[12:08] <kitche> dk06: sudo halt
[12:08] <dk06> thats it?
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:08] <sethk> cafuego, but if he deleted his /dev, he deleted his /dev/MAKEDEV also  :)
[12:08] <Storkme> well there isn't any more since /dev/ is mostly empty
[12:08] <sintax] > Hey
[12:08] <Storkme> what a mess
[12:08] <Storkme> apparently /chroot/ was linked somehow to /dev/
[12:08] <sintax] > Does ubuntu have full NTFS R/W support ?
[12:08] <sethk> Storkme, usually it is a link to /sbin/MAKEDEV
[12:08] <Storkme> so deleting /chroot/ messed with /dev/
[12:08] <THX-1138> botxj - first try sudo mount -a  ??
[12:08] <cafuego> sethk: It he restarts udev most will probably come back :-)
[12:09] <kitche> Storkme: well you probably broke your system
[12:09] <sethk> Storkme, you _deleted_ it instead of umounting it?  ugh
[12:09] <botxj> ok, THX-1138, i'll try that
[12:09] <Storkme> sethk, it wasn't mounted
[12:09] <theBeno> Agrajag, how did you look up "build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`" or did you just know that?
[12:09] <sethk> Storkme, things were mounted under it.
[12:09] <Storkme> yes, i got that now
[12:09] <sethk> Storkme, if you start a new shell, and do ls /dev,  is it empty?
[12:09] <sethk> Storkme, see if you have    /sbin/MAKEDEV
[12:10] <Storkme> can't make a new shell
[12:10] <cafuego> Storkme: See if this helps: sudo /etc/init.d/makedev start
[12:10] <botxj> sudo mount -a doesnt seem to work, my flash drive isnt coming on
[12:10] <Storkme> i'm gonna drop to terminal, talk to Stork
[12:10] <sintax] > I have a question lol
[12:10] <ISOLATEDViRuS> why is it that when i log in as the super user, the GUI doesnt behave with the rights of the SU login...?
[12:10] <THX-1138> Storkme CTRL+ALT+F2 ??
[12:10] <Stork> heh can't even log in
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper_> sintax] : repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[12:10] <THX-1138> ouch!
[12:10] <Stork> i'm royally fucked
[12:11] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, cos it does not have those rights
[12:11] <kitche> Stork: what do you mean you can't use a new shell, but of course you deleted your /dev so you probably have to do a reinstall
[12:11] <cafuego> stork: /dev/tty2 missing eh?
[12:11] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, read the page the bot sent you to read
[12:11] <ompaul> !language > stork
[12:11] <sintax] > page cannot be found
[12:11] <Stork> kitche, that would suck.
[12:11] <Tonren> Hey guys.  Anyone with an HP laptop that has gotten External Monitor to work?
[12:11] <Stork> sorry ompaul
[12:11] <Stork> well at least i still have my /home/. partition lol
[12:12] <Stork> oh wait a restart worked
[12:12] <THX-1138> Stork - would booting to rescue mode fix anything?
[12:12] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, it does
[12:12] <Stork> how anticlimactic ?
[12:12] <THX-1138> lol
[12:12] <Stork> sort of worked
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper_> hmm used to work :-(
[12:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i need to start logging in as root when i login instead of my account.
[12:12] <cafuego> Stork: /dev is all dynamically allocated these days, so deleting any of it doesn't really matter.
[12:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS> sethk, no it doesnt.
[12:12] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, ergo, root was not the effective user ID when the gui was started
[12:12] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, indeed it does.  I just double checked.
[12:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS> sethk, sec, ill do it again.
[12:12] <cafuego> Stork: if you reboot the box, you should be properly right.
[12:13] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, you are fighting a loosing battle, why not read the web page and follow the how to use sudo for everything web page cos you really have no need for root
[12:13] <kitche> Stork: also what is in /dev is what your system needs to run pretty much
[12:13] <Stork> cafuego, i might have deleted more things then just /dev ;\
[12:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> sethk: isolatedvirus@ubuntuvirus:~$ su
[12:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Password:
[12:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> root@ubuntuvirus:/home/isolatedvirus#
[12:13] <sethk> cafuego, if he really deleted his /dev, he needs to boot a live cd and then do a tar copy of the /dev tree to his hard disk
[12:13] <ompaul> !paste
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> now to use the gui to view the HDD
[12:13] <Tonren> ISOLATEDViRuS: what do you need to do as root?
[12:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "ntfs".
[12:13] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, at least 10 people have told you that you can simply start the file browser with root privileges
[12:14] <Agrajag> ISOLATEDViRuS: then you need to fix your permissions.
[12:14] <TheGateKeeper_> sintax] : used to work have a look on the ubuntu forums for ntfs-3g
[12:14] <dcroce> can someone help me out here - i can hear system sounds but i cant hear any music playing from mp3s or myspace and I cant listen to online radios... do I need a codex or what's up, anyone know?
[12:14] <Agrajag> ISOLATEDViRuS: can I see your line in /etc/fstab for that partition?
[12:14] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, I can't tell from here what you are doing wrong, but you are not accurately describing what you are doing.
[12:14] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, regardless, I told you to use the UID= option on the NTFS mount so that you can see the files as a normal user
[12:14] <Agrajag> ISOLATEDViRuS: you're trying to fix the wrong problem, which isn't even a problem.
[12:14] <kitche> sethk: why would he need to copy over the /dev from a livecd doesn't ubuntu use udev?
[12:14] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, I told you that ages ago.
[12:15] <sethk> kitche, not for static dev nodes, no.
[12:15] <gumby> sooo, i can't install ubuntu, it gets to the screen with ubuntu background and status bar at bottom, i tried reburning cd at 8x, same exact thing as before, so i've no idea what the problem is
[12:15] <politik> anyone running edgy yet, with no problems?
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper_> dcroce: I use KDE, amarok, xine engine, libxine-extra-codecs
[12:15] <sethk> kitche, udev is used for dynamic nodes such as usb connections, etc.
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> #
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:15] <kitche> sethk: well I use a full udev system didn't know ubuntu had a mixed
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:15] <Vegeta^> TheGateKeeper_: I get the error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." what is this?
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> /Dgn-r/ELaptopR  /media/usbdisk  smbfs  username=guest,password=,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[12:15] <Agrajag> ISOLATEDViRuS: just one line, one lien!
[12:15] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, I think you should read the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:15] <Agrajag> don't spam in here please
[12:15] <THX-1138> lol - be nice all of were new at one time. this is Ubuntu humanity to others isn't it?
[12:15] <sethk> kitche, if that's true, then you have no /dev/hdxx nodes for drives that are not installed?
[12:15] <dcroce> TheGateKeeper: I'm using gnome
[12:15] <sethk> kitche, I've never seen a system like that
[12:15] <sharkiezz> hi
[12:15] <Tonren> Hey guys.  Anyone with an HP laptop that has gotten External Monitor to work?
[12:16] <dcroce> TheGateKeeper: I will try installing those other packages though
[12:16] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, I have just pointed at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo read it - it will help you I'll remove the ban for pasting in about 10
[12:16] <LuisMendes> HELP: my azureus keeps saying 'dht firewalled' but I have no firewall! how can I solve this issue?
[12:16] <sharkiezz> i just got a quickie one... i have a laptop with only floppy drive and nic anyone know of a way to put ubuntu on that?
[12:16] <THX-1138> ISOLATEDVirus > !paste
[12:16] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: you have broken the package and it needs to be repaired that command in the cli should do the trick
[12:16] <kitche> sethk: that's how udev works
[12:16] <sethk> ompaul, you are at least the fifth person to tell him.  I'm not sure why he wants to keep using stuff that isn't working for him.
[12:16] <sethk> kitche, I know how udev works
[12:17] <Agrajag> ISOLATEDViRuS: I don't see an fstab entry for "ntfs" in any case
[12:17] <ompaul> sethk, well he can't tell us about it any more for a while
[12:17] <sethk> ompaul, yes.
[12:17] <Agrajag> theBeno: to answer your question from way back there, I just knew it
[12:17] <Vegeta^> TheGateKeeper_: I think it got fixed when I tried "dpkg --configure -a"
[12:17] <sharkiezz> so no one here knows how to help me?
[12:17] <Agrajag> ISOLATEDViRuS: how are you mounting this ntfs drive?
[12:17] <THX-1138> ompaul Do you develop any packages for Ubuntu?
[12:17] <sethk> kitche, checking my  ubuntu box here, I have 375 /dev/tty* nodes.  I certainly don't have 375 serial ports.
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: good :-)
[12:17] <Vegeta^> :)
[12:17] <ompaul> THX-1138, no
[12:18] <Agrajag> sharkiezz: ooh that's a hard one, I don't know if ubunutu has a net installer
[12:18] <jmrp> one question, how do i logon to root in ubuntu 6.06
[12:18] <kitche> sethk I only have 7 tty*
[12:18] <sethk> sharkiezz, sorry, I've never tried to do ubuntu with floppies.  slackware can do it.
[12:18] <Agrajag> I've done it with debian years ago though
[12:18] <Agrajag> !tel jmrp about rootsudo
[12:18] <Agrajag> er
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tel jmrp about rootsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <Agrajag> !tell jmrp about rootsudo
[12:18] <sethk> kitche, this box is running breezy.  I didn't think they changed that in dapper, but I guess it's possible
[12:18] <THX-1138> You are always hare and helpful. - nice
[12:18] <sethk> kitche, I'll check my dapper boxes at work on monday.
[12:18] <politik> can someone tell me how well edgy is working? I am trying to install a version of a package that is only in edgy, but it has dependencies that spider out into the rest of edgy
[12:19] <ompaul> politik, go to #ubuntu+1 to discuss the beta
[12:19] <ompaul> thanks
[12:19] <kitche> sethk: well anyways I m not running ubuntu I have to mount the install cd and play around with it's xorg.conf to make it work on my computer even the alternate cd doesn't work
[12:19] <politik> ompaul: ok, thanks
[12:19] <sethk> kitche, that could explain why we have different results  :)
[12:19] <Tonren> Can anyone help me get the External Monitor function on my laptop working?
[12:19] <sethk> kitche, even the text mode install?
[12:19] <sethk> kitche, what happens?
[12:19] <kitche> sethk: don't know about the text mode install never knew ubuntu had a text install
[12:20] <kitche> sethk: it says can not find /dev/mouse for me for X
[12:20] <sethk> kitche, if you boot the alternate cd, the first option on the menu is the text mode install.
[12:20] <sethk> kitche, don't see how you could have booted the alternate cd and not seen it.
[12:21] <sethk> kitche, /dev/mouse is typically a link.  what kind of mouse is it?
[12:21] <kitche> sethk: a ps2 mouse
[12:21] <charles`> I'm trying to copy a file that has spaces in the path with scp, I tried escaping them with \'s and quoting the whole path but it isn't working.  Anyone know how it should be done?
[12:21] <sethk> kitche, that's bizarre.
[12:21] <sethk> kitche, try the text mode install, it should work for you.
[12:22] <kitche> sethk: the alternate cd I just pressed enter at the boot: screen sicne the cd I had didn't have any menu well at least the menu that I m thinking of
[12:22] <ompaul> Vanique, Please don't change your nick in a channel with almost 900 in it - if we all did it no one could use the channel, thanks
[12:22] <Tonren> charles`: What error are you getting?  Have you tried using rsync or rscp instead?
[12:22] <sethk> kitche, you are talking about the dapper i386 alternate cd?
[12:23] <Vegeta^> TheGateKeeper_: Is there a need to install "to install JRE v5.0 Update 8" or is the package already updated?
[12:23] <kitche> sethk: I guess that's what it was got it from ubuntu.com
[12:23] <sethk> kitche, possible it's a bad burn?  or bad download?
[12:23] <Vanique> ompaul: lol, sorry i changed it on another channel actually
[12:23] <Vanique> and here in consequenxce
[12:23] <Vanique> :P
[12:23] <ompaul> Vanique, well please consider where you are
[12:24] <kitche> sethk: I didn't pay attention to the exact version anyways I also tried it with breezy and it did the same thing
[12:24] <Vanique> sure
[12:24] <Vanique> no worires
[12:24] <sethk> kitche, breezy has only the one install cd, so that part makes sense
[12:24] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: not really sure where is it asking you to do that?
[12:24] <sethk> kitche, but dapper has the separate alternate cd.
[12:24] <sethk> kitche, at the grub prompt with the alternate cd, read through the help and look for a command to go directly to a text mode install.
[12:24] <charles`> Tonren, for example with: scp -r host:/home/username/foo\ bar .
[12:25] <sethk> kitche, I'd find it for you but my cd is a work and I'm at home.
[12:25] <charles`> Tonren, I get scp: /home/foo: no such file or directory
[12:25] <kitche> sethk: yeah I'll look, maybe text would work, see I m use to the more expert install distros
[12:25] <Vegeta^> TheGateKeeper_: Well the next line says, you can update.
[12:26] <charles`> Tonren, and scp: bar: No such file or directory.
[12:26] <compilerwriter> A friend of mine is trying to install Ubuntu to a hard drive and is running into a monitor refresh rate issue.  Does anyone have any ideas.
[12:26] <dcroce> can someone pm with help on my sound.. THanks!
[12:26] <Tonren> charles`: try using rsync or rscp instead.  I always use rsync.
[12:26] <all-natural> what is the command to delete files from the terminal?
[12:26] <Tonren> all-natural: rm
[12:26] <charles`> Tonren, so it is looking for bar on my local path
[12:26] <dcroce> rm
[12:26] <ompaul> !sounder > dcroce
[12:26] <all-natural> ty
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sounder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <charles`> Tonren, ok =( yet another thing to learn
[12:26] <ompaul> !sound > dcroce
[12:26] <nozorro> charles`: make sure you include the colon
[12:26] <Tonren> charles`: it's almost exactly th esame - don't worry about it
[12:27] <sethk> compilerwriter, that's somewhat vague.
[12:27] <sethk> compilerwriter, what issues, specifically
[12:27] <charles`> nozorro, I had the colon
[12:27] <dcroce> ompaul: thanks i'll take a look at this
[12:27] <compilerwriter> He is having some complaint about refresh rate issues.
[12:27] <charles`> nozorro, you don't need the colon for the local host
[12:27] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: don't remember getting that when I installed it, so I am not really sure
[12:27] <ompaul> dcroce, yw
[12:27] <nozorro> charles`: sorry, i overlooked the local host part
[12:27] <gumby> well anyways,
[12:28] <sethk> compilerwriter, can't help without more specific questions, or at least more information.
[12:28] <kitche> sethk: that's not really vague actually
[12:28] <sethk> kitche, sure it is.
[12:28] <Vegeta^> TheGateKeeper_: It's not in the install, it's just somethin stated on the site you gave.
[12:28] <all-natural> Tonren, i need to remove a "locked" directory on mydestop but it says that it has files in it. how do i delete it regardless of files or not?
[12:28] <Hor|zon> =_= Now I remember why I'm never in here...too much work tracking all the different convos
[12:28] <Hor|zon> >.>
[12:28] <LuisMendes> how can I update Firefox?
[12:29] <Tonren> all-natural: Be EXTREMELY careful with this command: rm -rf directory
[12:29] <BHSPitMonkey> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:29] <charles`> Tonren, ahh googled it and figured it out
[12:29] <BHSPitMonkey> LuisMendes, ^
[12:29] <Tonren> charles`: Awesome.  Did you end updoing it with SCP?
[12:29] <all-natural> ty
[12:29] <kitche> sethk: well to me it says that the install cd doesn't have the right refresh rate for his monitor, but I run into that error a lot :)
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper_> Vegeta^: ok just do the install that should be all you need
[12:29] <LuisMendes> BHSPitMonkey, it says it's the latest version, but it's not
[12:29] <charles`> Tonren, you have to quote the whole thing "host:/path/to/file\ with\ spaces"
[12:29] <BHSPitMonkey> LuisMendes, which version
[12:29] <charles`> Tonren, yeah with scp
[12:29] <Tonren> charles`: Oh... I could've told you that.  You said "I tried it with quotes" and I assumed that's how you did it.
[12:29] <lampshade> Anyone know why beagle isn't indexing anything for me?  Like entering a filename that I know exists complete fails to bring up results and such?
[12:29] <LuisMendes> BHSPitMonkey, currently installed = 1.5.0.5    latest = 1.5.0.7
[12:30] <kitche> compilerwriter: ok so it just shows a blue screen that says bad refresh rates correct?
[12:30] <charles`> Tonren, yeah I was trying host:"/path/to/file\ with\ spaces"
[12:30] <sethk> kitche, that's one of many possibilities.  not that it has the wrong information, but that it doesn't identify the monitor.
[12:30] <Roconda> kde uses artsd, but what does gnome use?
[12:30] <Tonren> charles`: Ahh, I see.  Glad you figured it out
[12:30] <compilerwriter> He is running the install from the live CD.  It complains that his refresh is only 60.5 and wants another refresh rate of about 75.x hz.  Is there a way to configure that in the install.  He must be using an older moniter.
[12:30] <charles`> Tonren, err, without the escapes
[12:30] <erUSUL> lampshade: beagle searchs contents not filenames
[12:30] <Tonren> Can anyone help me get the External Monitor function on my laptop working?
[12:30] <BHSPitMonkey> LuisMendes, 1.5.0.5 is the latest version the ubuntu devs are going to support.  wait for edgy, it will bring firefox 2
[12:30] <sethk> compilerwriter, you mean during the install?
[12:30] <sethk> compilerwriter, tell him to use text mode install
[12:30] <Hor|zon> tried the beagle-status command?
[12:30] <compilerwriter> It is a red screen during install.
[12:30] <lampshade> erUSUL: that's just wrong and not true.  See the beagle FAQ
[12:30] <sethk> compilerwriter, if you mean running the system after it is installed, of course the refresh rate can be adjusted
[12:31] <sethk> compilerwriter, a red screen?  what does that mean?
[12:31] <compilerwriter> How does he do that.
[12:31] <sethk> compilerwriter, do which?
[12:31] <Roconda> which sound deamon does gnome use?
[12:31] <LuisMendes> BHSPitMonkey, then how can I update using the 'check for updates' option under the help menu? it's disabled...
[12:31] <nozorro> Roconda: esd
[12:31] <THX-1138> alsa
[12:31] <Roconda> ok
[12:31] <THX-1138> esd?? ok
[12:31] <BHSPitMonkey> LuisMendes, yes, it is.
[12:32] <lampshade> Hor|zon: yeah, it is "Executing task"  but I have no idea what that means you know...  i'm trying to find docs on it right now.  I mean some things are indexed, but it seems like A LOT of files are being skipped that shouldn't be :-/
[12:32] <compilerwriter> I have forgotten the install tags to use for the text install.
[12:32] <nozorro> THX-1138: alsa is the snd driver framework included in the kernel
[12:32] <Hor|zon> tried the beagle logs?
[12:32] <sethk> compilerwriter, for dapper you use the alternate install cd.  then it gives you several options (text mode install, oem install, rescue, etc.)
[12:32] <BHSPitMonkey> LuisMendes, you're not using true firefox... you're using the Ubuntu-ified version. The ubuntu devs patch the crap out of firefox, and among those modifications, is disabling the update manager. It's intended to be handled through apt.
[12:32] <Tonren> Can anyone help me get the External Monitor function on my laptop working?
[12:32] <compilerwriter> sethk, Can you tell me ok.
[12:33] <Sp4rKy> hi
[12:33] <sethk> compilerwriter, I thought I did.
[12:33] <THX-1138> nozorro - Always good to learn a little more
[12:33] <THX-1138> thx
[12:33] <Sp4rKy> please i haven't the special char over edgy / dapper in console
[12:33] <LuisMendes> BHSPitMonkey, in older versions, we could change permissions in order to enable that option, but not it wont work.. sad :P
[12:33] <erUSUL> lampshade: i read here http://beagle-project.org/FAQ where does it says that it searchs filenames?
[12:33] <nozorro> THX-1138: yw
[12:33] <Sp4rKy> maybe utf-8 not correctly set
[12:33] <Hor|zon> ~/.beagle/Log/
[12:33] <Sp4rKy> any help ?
[12:34] <compilerwriter> Thanks sethk.
[12:34] <nozorro> Sp4rKy: linux console or terminal?
[12:34] <THX-1138> Tonren - this might be helpful http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4185.html
[12:34] <Tonren> thanks THX
[12:34] <mluser-work> If I'm running ubuntu whats the cleanest way to install kde?
[12:35] <theBeno> Agrajag, how do you run the vmware-install.pl?
[12:35] <theBeno> Just via command line?
[12:35] <Hor|zon> apt-get install kde-desktop ?
[12:35] <nozorro> mluser-work: install the package kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <mluser-work> Hor|zon: thanks
[12:35] <Hor|zon> hmm wait
[12:35] <Hor|zon> is that a package?
[12:35] <Hor|zon> lol
[12:35] <Sp4rKy> nozorro: nozorro twice
[12:35] <jrib> Hor|zon: kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <Sp4rKy> all console and some term (eterm for example)
[12:35] <lampshade> erUSUL: oh sorry it was in the troubleshooting faq http://beagle-project.org/Troubleshooting  they tell you to try and look for the filename exactly as one of the troubleshooting steps so I assume from that that it can in fact find filenames.
[12:36] <Hor|zon> yeah that's it
[12:36] <mluser-work> nozorro: just use synaptic to install it?
[12:36] <Hor|zon> I tried that once...came straight back to gnome though
[12:36] <Tonren> THX-1138: The thing about editing my xorg.conf is that I'm not ALWAYS connected to a separate monitor.  Just when I'm in class and I'm using the projector.
[12:36] <nozorro> mluser-work: yeah
[12:36] <BigMac_> my AMD64 bit live CD wont load correctly
[12:36] <BigMac_> any suggestions?
[12:37] <Sp4rKy> nozorro: http://pastebin.ca/172221 , my locale
[12:37] <habeeb> Greetings, I have to understand the *nix world. What is GNU? And I'm not talking about the licence. I'm talking about the site gnu.org. And I know its not Unix, but why is it about it?
[12:37] <Hor|zon> BigMac: "won't load correctly" ? what do you mean?
[12:37] <BigMac_> well it wont go live
[12:37] <BigMac_> i get a kernal panic
[12:37] <der0b> How can I find out what is holding /dev/dsp open?
[12:37] <lampshade> habeeb: I don't habeeb it
[12:37] <THX-1138> Tonren - Wish i could be more helpful. - sorry
[12:37] <BigMac_> then i try these commands
[12:38] <habeeb> lampshade: HABEEB IT!
[12:38] <Tonren> THX-1138: s'ok - thanks for trying!  :)
[12:38] <BigMac_> noapic  nolapic acpi=off pci=noacpi
[12:38] <SpEeDFrEaK> can anyone help me here my hosts are morons
[12:38] <Tonren> habeeb: Here's the short version: Unix was an operating system with a lot of great tools, but the folks who owned it wouldn't make it "free" - free as in speech, not as in beer.  People couldn't hack on it and change it to their liking.
[12:38] <SpEeDFrEaK> i just had 3 servers set up with 5.10 and plesk 8 wont install
[12:38] <SpEeDFrEaK> lol
[12:38] <THX-1138> Tonren - could you create a bash file to swap xorg.conf in and out? ugly hack warning. - lol
[12:38] <SpEeDFrEaK> they asking me
[12:39] <BigMac_> that gets me past the kernel panic
[12:39] <nozorro> Sp4rKy: where do you set all these variables? you can do this stuff from the desktop nowadays
[12:39] <Tonren> THX-1138: how do you refresh it, though?  without logging out and in again?
[12:39] <BigMac_> then my video wont work
[12:39] <Tonren> habeeb: So, an enteprising fella in the 80's decided to make a carbon copy of Unix, but free
[12:39] <damion_> question i am asking about kubuntu how do you downgrade from 3.5 beta 2 to 3.5.0
[12:39] <lupine_85> linux was based on minix, not unix :)
[12:39] <habeeb> Tonren: I'm following you.
[12:39] <Sp4rKy> nozorro: there are on a dedibox, with no desktop system
[12:39] <Tonren> habeeb: He called it GNU.  It used to stand for something that actually meant something ( I think), but now it's just GNU is Not Unix, because it is free!
[12:39] <Sp4rKy> nozorro: and they're set by default
[12:40] <Hor|zon> is there any specific reason you need the live environment?
[12:40] <habeeb> Tonren: off topic, but FreeBSD is *nix?
[12:40] <Sp4rKy> nozorro: on my computer, i think my issue comes from eterm
[12:40] <lupine_85> ah... /me shuts up
[12:40] <nozorro> Sp4rKy: what is a dedibox?
[12:40] <BigMac_> nope
[12:40] <Tonren> habeeb: No idea.  I was under the impression that the BSDs weren't linux.
[12:40] <Hor|zon> are you just trying to install ubuntu? or something else?
[12:40] <BigMac_> i really want to install ubuntu
[12:40] <lampshade> habeeb: wow, I never thought I would actually run into another /b/ person
[12:40] <Hor|zon> have you tried the alternate cd?
[12:40] <Sp4rKy> nozorro: it's a "dedicated" server :)
[12:40] <BigMac_> yes
[12:40] <BigMac_> but for 86i
[12:40] <habeeb> lampshade: well, the gentoo channel is full of these suckers
[12:40] <Tonren> lampshade: rofl, lurk moar
[12:40] <habeeb> lampshade: HAHA
[12:40] <habeeb> Tonren: winrar
[12:40] <BigMac_> i own a 64bit
[12:40] <lampshade> oh holy god there is more
[12:41] <BigMac_> but heard that the 86i offers more programs
[12:41] <habeeb> AND SUDDENLY, /B/TARDS, THOUSANDS OF THEM
[12:41] <habeeb> (sorry for the caps, the button broke)
[12:41] <Tonren> lampshade: I'm terrified that one day I'm going to meet someone on my 600-student college campus who is also a /b/-tard
[12:41] <TBay> hello all
[12:41] <THX-1138> Tonren - sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop or CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[12:41] <Tonren> habeeb: don't worry - cruise control for col.
[12:41] <Tonren> *cool
[12:41] <nozorro> Sp4rKy: for the console, have a look at /etc/inputc (set convert-meta off). you'd then still have to change the font maybe
[12:41] <Tonren> THX-1138: Doesn't Ctrl + Alt + Backspace log you out??
[12:41] <Hor|zon> if you have a 64bit then yeah, don't install the 32bit ubuntu...the performance difference is amazing
[12:41] <habeeb> Tonren: Is it right to say "Linux is made in C, because the kernel is in C?"
[12:41] <TBay> got a question for anyone willing to try to answer it
[12:41] <THX-1138> yes it does
[12:41] <eyequeue> TBay, 42
[12:41] <BigMac_> ok
[12:42] <Tonren> THX-1138: well, I'd like a way to do it without logging out.  for now, the bash script is an OK idea thouhg.  :P
[12:42] <BigMac_> so download the alt
[12:42] <nozorro> Sp4rKy: and well, eterm, in gnome-terminal this kind of stuff just works
[12:42] <BigMac_> of the 64bit?
[12:42] <Tonren> habeeb: That sounds like more of an opinion thing.  I mean, sure, the kernel is in C, but I"m sur ethere are modules coded in C++.
[12:42] <Hor|zon> yeah
[12:42] <TBay> there is a program called winavi for windows, does anyone know of a program that does similar stuff for linux? where it will convert avi to dvd in one fall swoop
[12:42] <habeeb> And what would happen if we dont provide a distribution with extra tools, just a basic kernel? Will I have a command line?
[12:42] <kevor_> Is there a way to show a list of connected clients on dhcp3-server?
[12:42] <Tonren> habeeb: Yep
[12:42] <silverfox> does anyonere upgraded from dapper to edgy ?
[12:42] <BigMac_> does haveing a PCI-e card make it harder for me to install?
[12:42] <eyequeue> silverfox, try #ubuntu+1
[12:42] <erUSUL> Tonren: the kernel and all modules are in pure C no c++ in the kernel
[12:42] <Tonren> habeeb: Man, how hardcore would it be if someone started with JUST the kernel and built a distro from scratch, just to use on their own, not to actually distribute?
[12:42] <silverfox> ok
[12:42] <BigMac_> b/c i can get past the kernel probs then i have trouble with xserv
[12:43] <Tonren> erUSUL: Yeah, but what about code that distros ship?
[12:43] <Hor|zon> what problems?
[12:43] <Tonren> Anyone know hwo to get external monitor working on a laptop..>?
[12:43] <BigMac_> wont load
[12:43] <habeeb> Tonren: I'm actually asking theoritical questions, I'm really happy with the current distributions :P
[12:43] <Hor|zon> it tells you the error?
[12:43] <habeeb> Tonren: I just want to get some basic things.
[12:43] <BigMac_> no screen
[12:43] <Sp4rKy> nozorro: yes
[12:43] <SpEeDFrEaK> is any one familiar with this error Bash: setenforce: command not found
[12:43] <mangobot> hey, i have an issue: when i try to install ubuntu from the livecd, the load of the live desktop stops and then this error comes: Disk error F1, AX = 4200, drive 9F, I/0 error, error reading  boot cd
[12:43] <BHSPitMonkey> umm... yes
[12:43] <TBay>  there is a program called winavi for windows, does anyone know of a program that does similar stuff for linux? where it will convert avi to dvd in one fall swoop
[12:43] <erUSUL> Tonren: mainly C C++ probably the second language in LOC
[12:43] <mangobot> can someone help?
[12:43] <Hor|zon> that's the gdm error no? what about the xorg error?
[12:43] <erUSUL> !anyone
[12:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:44] <BigMac_> oh....
[12:44] <BHSPitMonkey> mangobot, try "Check disk for errors" or whatever, from the livecd's main menu.
[12:44] <BigMac_> i have no idea then
[12:44] <mangobot> ok
[12:44] <BigMac_> i try
[12:44] <mangobot> thanks
[12:44] <BigMac_> startx
[12:44] <erUSUL> TBay: ffmpeg iirc
[12:44] <BigMac_> and my screen acts like its going to work
[12:44] <kevor_> So no way to see who's connected to my dhcpd3 server? ;/
[12:44] <SpEeDFrEaK> can someone help me please
[12:44] <BigMac_> then it comes back to blank
[12:44] <sris> is there a command like "top" that gives you usefull info about your memory/swap usage?
[12:44] <Hor|zon> do you get the blue screen?
[12:44] <BigMac_> no
[12:44] <Tonren> erUSUL: Should I be phrasing it, "How do you get external monitors working?"
[12:44] <erUSUL> sris: free
[12:44] <BigMac_> back to shell
[12:45] <Subhuman> sris, top does give you mem usage?
[12:45] <Hor|zon> try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:45] <sris> Subhuman, oh does it? ;)
[12:45] <lampshade> TBay: I think there is also a verrsion of dvdshrink for linux, but you have to find the right repository that carries it as most don't(since it is basically a dvd decrypter/pirater all in one)
[12:45] <Hor|zon> and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:45] <habeeb> Tonren: wtf are modules. I know how to load them (fglrx, vesa etc) but wtf are they?
[12:45] <Subhuman> sris, yeah, 5-6th line
[12:45] <TBay> heh alright
[12:45] <BigMac_> is that ctrl+alt+space aswell?
[12:45] <sris> Subhuman, ah, you're right :D thanks
[12:45] <TBay> well i am into backing up my dvd's in various formats
[12:45] <TBay> thats why i ask
[12:45] <Tonren> habeeb: You know, I'm honestly not sure
[12:45] <habeeb> Tonren: I see.
[12:45] <Hor|zon> ctrl+alt+space?
[12:45] <bungopolis> when I use the adduser command, home directories are not created for new users. How can I tell adduser to create the home directory?
[12:46] <BigMac_> nvm
[12:46] <habeeb> What are the modules? I know how to load them (fglrx, vesa etc) but wtf are they?
[12:46] <Tonren> bungopolis: Is there a directory called /etc/skel?
[12:46] <habeeb> Edgy will come with a new GNOME version?
[12:46] <bungopolis> Tonren yes
[12:46] <Tonren> bungopolis: hmm...
[12:46] <creature> Hello. What are the minimum system requirements for Ubuntu?
[12:46] <Tonren> bungopolis: I'd start hunting through man adduser
[12:46] <mangobot> BHSPitMonkey: any ideas what my error meant?
[12:46] <TBay> i will have to just try dual boot for my computer, use windows for gaming and occasional converting avi files, and then linux for everything else
[12:47] <jrib> bungopolis: default behavior is for it to create home directories, so something is strange
[12:47] <lampshade> My beagle is blind :(
[12:47] <bungopolis> jrib it's a fresh install of dapper server
[12:47] <Tonren> creature: It needs 2 GB to install.  Xubuntu is good for lower-performance systems, otherwise around 512MB is suggested, but I've heard of GNOME running with 256
[12:47] <TBay> that sucks lampshade
[12:47] <lampshade> it can't see any files it seems.  and upon using --debug it looks like it is just caught in a loop of startup and shutdown
[12:47] <erUSUL> habeeb: they are object code blobs that get linked to the kernel not at compile time but at runtime (with insmod)
[12:47] <jrib> bungopolis: maybe /etc/adduser.conf differs from the desktop?
[12:48] <bungopolis> jrib what desktop?
[12:48] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. does anyone have a good link for a place or person selling an OLD dual processor mobo with a little ram on it? My server cooked, and I'm in need of a new mobo/CPU/ram setup ... (Dual 450 chips would be more than enough) ..
[12:48] <habeeb> erUSUL: and?
[12:48] <habeeb> erUSUL: I mean.. what do they do?
[12:48] <bungopolis> jrib oh sorry, gotcha
[12:48] <lampshade> NineTeen67Comet: ebay.com
[12:48] <BigMac_> thanks for the help
[12:48] <habeeb> erUSUL: fglrx gave me OpenGL support for ATI, but there are moar, what do they do?
[12:48] <THX-1138> newegg.com
[12:48] <BigMac_> i will try it later
[12:48] <habeeb> Generally.
[12:48] <bungopolis> jrib I think its that I was using useradd instead of adduser, come to think of it. didn't realize they were different programs
[12:48] <lampshade> NineTeen67Comet: also if you have them in your area check out local college auctions.  They usually have old server equipment for pretty cheap
[12:48] <NineTeen67Comet> lampshade: yeah .. been poking around there a little ..
[12:48] <nozorro> habeeb: in general they are hardware drivers
[12:48] <habeeb> nozorro: I see.
[12:48] <jrib> bungopolis: ah, yeah that would explain it
[12:49] <Vegeta^> "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes" <-- What does this mean? I got that after typing "sudo update-flashplugin"
[12:49] <habeeb> nozorro: written in?
[12:49] <Hor|zon> :)
[12:49] <nozorro> habeeb: mostly in c i suspect. install the linux kernel source to see for yourself
[12:49] <mangobot> hey, does anyone know why a livecd would work once, and after an install randomly stopped working from the cd not boot again?
[12:49] <Tonren> How do I get my laptop's external monitor working?  When I hit Fn + F4, nothing happens.
[12:49] <bsdfox> NineTeen67Comet, what do you want to spend.. my buddy has a couple rack-mount dual p3/500s and 733s
[12:49] <NineTeen67Comet> lampshade: I'm in Japan (military base) .. we've got a few sales occasionally for old equip, but I've been looking for a while and getting impatiant (That's bad, cuz I'll probably buy more than I need .. lol) ..
[12:49] <erUSUL> habeeb: there are modules for many things but mainly you campile as module drivers for devices (like graphic cards, net cards, etc)
[12:49] <hype> hi, Anybody knows how to mount a VMware disk image? (win Xp image on VXware server)
[12:50] <skurupu> Hi, I can't see any of my HDDs that are hooked up to my IDE controller, any ideas? (they are detected on startup)
[12:50] <NineTeen67Comet> bsdfox: not much, I found a few dual processor 450s on ebay with ram for $40 .. but I would pay as much as $150 or so ..
[12:50] <habeeb> nozorro: I since I only know some Python, I'dnt understand shit from the kernel source
[12:50] <habeeb> *(Remove the first "I")
[12:50] <THX-1138> !vmware
[12:50] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[12:50] <nozorro> habeeb: and?
[12:50] <federicomattes> Hi guys. I would like to sync a PALM TX with my Ubuntu  with GnomePilot. I'm running Dapper
[12:50] <Hor|zon> lol japan...they have tons of electronic hardware stores...
[12:50] <Hor|zon> it's like geek heaven
[12:50] <creature> Tonren: I have a P200 with 96Mb of RAM.
[12:50] <Hor|zon> well I suppose it depends where in japan
[12:51] <habeeb> nozorro: well, it would be pointless. I supposed :P
[12:51] <bsdfox> NineTeen67Comet, he's gonna be working for the next hour but if you're in here later msg me and I'll get you price quotes.. I bet you guys could work something out
[12:51] <all-natural> how do i get drives to not be mounted durring boot
[12:51] <skurupu> Hi, I can't see any of my HDDs that are hooked up to my IDE controller, any ideas? (they are detected on startup)
[12:51] <NineTeen67Comet> Hor|zon: grin .. ain't much better than the states here .. Okinawa is a little like a second world country compared to mainland japan ..
[12:51] <Tonren> creature: badass
[12:51] <jrib> all-natural: noauto in /etc/fstab
[12:51] <federicomattes> Hi guys. I would like to sync a PALM TX with my Ubuntu  with GnomePilot. I'm running Dappe
[12:51] <creature> Tonren: I have a feeling that Ubuntu might find the system... underpowered.
[12:51] <bsdfox> NineTeen67Comet, you realize you can get a dual core pentium D with mobo for under $150 at frys right?
[12:52] <NineTeen67Comet> bsdfox: do I just type /msg bsdfox <message here> .. ?
[12:52] <Hor|zon> ooh Okinawa, lucky you
[12:52] <eyequeue> frys?
[12:52] <THX-1138> outpost.com
[12:52] <bsdfox> NineTeen67Comet, yes
[12:52] <NineTeen67Comet> bsdfox: frys? ..
[12:52] <THX-1138> newegg.com
[12:52] <coldboot> I've got firefox version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3, and it won't start at all when I run /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox at all. I run it from the console, it will ask if I want to restore the tab mix plus session (or it does the safe mode prompt in safe mode), then nothing happens, and it doesn't return, doesn't use all the cpu. I have no idea how to troubleshoot this problem.
[12:52] <bsdfox> frys electronics?! I feel sorry for all you guys not on the west coast :)
[12:52] <skurupu> !ide
[12:52] <coldboot> Thunderbird is also broken and doesn't work in the same way, but it prints out some crap before it stalls forever
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <Hor|zon> west coast? try no coast...
[12:52] <Hor|zon> doesn't frys only exist in the US?
[12:53] <bsdfox> a64 3000+ with nforce3 mobo for $100. pentium D 820 w/ mobo for $140
[12:53] <NineTeen67Comet> bsdfox: I would like to be on the west coast .. ur no wait .. I am on the west coast .. of Okinawa! .. hehehehe
[12:53] <eyequeue> bsdfox, good selection?  prices?  both?
[12:53] <bsdfox> eyequeue, the best of both
[12:53] <bungopolis> Hor|zon wait you mean there are people living outside of north america??
[12:53] <NineTeen67Comet> frys.com .. woohoo ..
[12:53] <bsdfox> NineTeen67Comet, try outpost.com
[12:53] <eyequeue> bsdfox, sounds nice, send us one, lol
[12:53] <NineTeen67Comet> rodger ..
[12:53] <Hor|zon> bungopolis: lol yeah, we live in forests and eat berries
[12:53] <THX-1138> lol
[12:54] <sharkiezz> well i was just thinking does anyone here know how to install ubuntu from a usb drive?
[12:54] <eyequeue> bsdfox, if you go in and mention linux, do you get a blank stare? lol
[12:54] <cactus_sediento> hello everybody.....could somebody help me, i am conecting for the first time with ekiga....need a partner to talk....if i can talk :-)
[12:54] <NineTeen67Comet> bsdfox: frys.com = outpost.com in the header .. same company I think ..
[12:54] <skurupu> any one god some experience with IDE controllers?
[12:54] <bsdfox> eyequeue, nah, most people there know what's up
[12:54] <federicomattes> Hi guys. I would like to sync a PALM TX with my Ubuntu  with GnomePilot. I'm running Dapper- ANY HELP?
[12:54] <bsdfox> NineTeen67Comet, it is, but frys.com doesn't have any prices
[12:54] <BHSPitMonkey> NineTeen67Comet, they're technically separate vendors, outpost controls its own inventory/prices
[12:54] <eyequeue> bsdfox, even better, we need one of those
[12:54] <Hor|zon> do frys only ship within the US?
[12:55] <bsdfox> dunno
[12:55] <bsdfox> I live within a couple hours of like 3 fry's :D
[12:55] <NineTeen67Comet> bsdfox: BHSPitMonkey aha .. very well then .. thanks much .. I'm there now "lurking" around the isles ..
[12:55] <BHSPitMonkey> NineTeen67Comet, open network there?
[12:55] <ISOLATEDViRuS> grrr
[12:56] <Hor|zon> hmmm I see international shipping...
[12:56] <Hor|zon> cool
[12:56] <spiekey> hello!
[12:56] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i cant make it so i can log in as root from the login screen >_<
[12:56] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i cant even bring up the login screen editor!
[12:56] <spiekey> is it possible to load/append a module from the command/grub line?
[12:56] <nozorro> habeeb: i didn't want to scare you off, but see, this is a support channel, and a very crowded one. any specific ubuntu questions are welcome
[12:56] <spiekey> i have a vmware nic and it cant boot nfs
[12:56] <eyequeue> !root > ISOLATEDViRuS
[12:56] <spiekey> the kernel lacks the driver support
[12:56] <NineTeen67Comet> BHSPitMonkey: open network? .. what do you mean? .. normal ISP just like the states .. (sept this one is down as much as it's up) ..
[12:57] <bsdfox> http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/Ads.aspx?advid=32664&adid=3449483
[12:57] <bsdfox> those are frys ads in san jose
[12:57] <spiekey> and i dont want to recompile the kernel ;)
[12:57] <ISOLATEDViRuS> thankyou eyequeue.
[12:57] <skurupu> Hi, I can't see any of my HDDs that are hooked up to my IDE controller, any ideas? (they are detected on startup)
[12:57] <habeeb> nozorro: Okay.
[12:57] <eyequeue> no prob
[12:57] <BHSPitMonkey> NineTeen67Comet, you're lurking the aisles... in real life, or online? :P
[12:58] <NineTeen67Comet> BHSPitMonkey: online sorry .. they have a few good computer stores here, but the hardware is a little more than online (unless the Yen rate is rockin' in our favor) ..
[12:58] <erUSUL> skurupu: are you in a live cd session ??
[12:58] <skurupu> erUSUL, no I'm not
[12:59] <erUSUL> skurupu: so you are in windows now? you can not boot linux?
[12:59] <lampshade> what's the name of that command to just show you like the last 10 lines of a file, I'm drawing a complete blank and it is something really easy
[12:59] <erUSUL> lampshade: tail
[12:59] <all-natural> can someone direct me to instructions on how to get flash working in firefox?
[12:59] <eyequeue> lampshade, tail foo
[12:59] <erUSUL> !flash
[12:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:59] <skurupu> erUSUL, I'm in ubuntu. Just can't see some of my HDDs
[12:59] <lampshade> erUSUL: YES thank you... man  I could not remember that for some reason
[12:59] <debugger> hi
[12:59] <all-natural> ty
[12:59] <debugger> whats the name of 6.06?  its dapper?
[12:59] <eyequeue> debugger, yes
[12:59] <nozorro> debugger: yep
[01:00] <Vegeta^> What could the reason be to, that the upload speed in KTorrent is going up and down to 0, and constantly does that, by going up and down..?
[01:00] <Hor|zon> no
[01:00] <Hor|zon> >.>
[01:00] <debugger> eyequeue, nozorro thx :)
[01:00] <eyequeue> debugger, the list is at the bottom of http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases
[01:01] <debugger> eyequeue, ah nice :)
[01:01] <eyequeue> debugger, edgy eft is missing, it will be 6.10
[01:01] <Hor|zon> how does the versioning scheme work anyways?
[01:01] <erUSUL> skurupu: 'dmesg | grep hd' does not show the detection of said hdds?? where are they attached some pci card or onboard ide??
[01:01] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, year.month
[01:02] <Hor|zon> ah, I never noticed that
[01:02] <nu> could anyone help me with dual monitors?
[01:02] <Hor|zon> cool
[01:02] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, code names are alphabetical from dapper on
[01:02] <tom_reinke> Can I get some help please? How do I burn an iso onto a CD in my drive?
[01:02] <nozorro> tom_reinke: use you file manager
[01:02] <eyequeue> tom_reinke, cdrecord, or other tools
[01:02] <skurupu> erUSUL, I can see at least one of them
[01:03] <tom_reinke> nozorro, there is no burn option in my filemanager
[01:03] <Tonren> My USB flash memory is being mounted as a Read-Only FileSystem.  How do I stop it from doing this?
[01:03] <Hor|zon> heh I heard about that. But I don't care much for the naming...I just call it Ubuntu 6.06 or whatever
[01:03] <tom_reinke> eyequeue, I get an error when I try to use cdrecord
[01:03] <Hor|zon> or dapper
[01:03] <nozorro> tom_reinke: Places > /cd/DVD Creator
[01:03] <cactus_sediento> is there somebody with  experience using ekiga?
[01:03] <eyequeue> tom_reinke, file manager, gnomebaker, k3b come to mind
[01:03] <Hor|zon> you'd never catch me saying the whole "dapper drake"
[01:03] <finalbeta_> tom_reinke, gnomebaker
[01:03] <erUSUL> skurupu: how much are them and where are them attached ?? which one do you see??
[01:03] <nozorro> tom_reinke: in file manager or general menu
[01:04] <tom_reinke> oh well, crap. Its not even reconizing that I have the CD-R in.
[01:04] <NineTeen67Comet> BHSPitMonkey: bsdfox .. thanks much .. it's breakfast time here .. off to brave the oncoming Typhoon and stuff my face ..
[01:04] <eyequeue> NineTeen67Comet, stay safe
[01:04] <sharkiezz> okay guys i was just thinking i have this ipod/hard drive here. Is it possible to place the Ubuntu CD ISO on there and boot off of the USB to get it to install?
[01:04] <bsdfox> NineTeen67Comet, good luck
[01:04] <tamacracker> Guys...
[01:04] <tamacracker> i wanna burn mp3s
[01:04] <Hor|zon> lol I wouldn't use k3b in gnome...unless you don't mind a few coasters from the krashes...from my experience anyways
[01:04] <tamacracker> onto a cdr
[01:04] <Jamminpotato> where is gconf at?
[01:04] <Hor|zon> I may just be biased
[01:04] <eyequeue> sharkiezz, stand by one
[01:04] <nozorro> tom_reinke: what does System > ADministration > Disks tell you about the drive?
[01:05] <creature> Does Ubuntu have any published minimum system requirements?
[01:05] <sovieticool> test
[01:05] <sovieticool> cool
[01:05] <bsdfox> Hor|zon, I've never crashed k3b and I run it in gnome routinely
[01:05] <eyequeue> sharkiezz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:05] <skurupu> erUSUL, I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I can't see them
[01:05] <coldboot> Does anyone else have firefox and thunderbird both stalling, without eating cpu, and never opening their main windows?
[01:05] <tom_reinke> nozorro, it tells me that it can do the following, play audio, write cd-r, write cd-rw and read dvd
[01:05] <coldboot> The vanilla versions work fine, the dapper versions are fucked up in such a way.
[01:05] <bsdfox> creature, I think it recommends 128mb ram for gnome
[01:05] <eyequeue> coldboot, invoke them from a terminal to see the errors
[01:05] <Jamminpotato> !language > coldboot
[01:05] <eyequeue> !language > coldboot
[01:05] <Hor|zon> heh that's why I say I may be biased...I used it for a week or so and it crashed a few times...back in breezy
[01:05] <creature> Hah. bsdfox, I'm looking at a P200. There's no way I'm putting gnome on it.
[01:05] <erUSUL> skurupu: whare are they attached an add on ide card or onboard ide?
[01:06] <coldboot> family friendly? oh man
[01:06] <g333k_work>  I have installed JWM, how to change to use it instead of gnome?
[01:06] <nozorro> tom_reinke: well from that point everything seems ok then ... don't you have the cd/dvd creator entry in the menus?
[01:06] <coldboot> eyequeue: There is no output to the terminal for firefox
[01:06] <Jamminpotato> where is gconf at?
[01:06] <eyequeue> creature, try the server install, or xubuntu-desktop for the more lightweight xfce, if you want a gui
[01:06] <tamacracker> can someone please help me find a cd burner to burn mp3s into cdr so it's playable on car stereo?
[01:06] <tom_reinke> nozorro, also, applications keep crashing at random
[01:06] <skurupu> erUSUL, PCI IDE card yes
[01:06] <creature> I'm highly familiar with Debian but I hear good things about Ubuntu. If I can install a pared-down system that'll work OK as a desktop machine, then I'll grab Ubuntu. Otherwise I'll bear the pain and go Debian.
[01:06] <coldboot> Is there really anyone hanging out in here who's going to be terribly affected by someone using swear words, which are in common use all the time?
[01:06] <g333k_work> tamacracker, k3b
[01:06] <tgelter> tamacracker: I haven't used a cd-burner yet that hasn't worked for that
[01:07] <tamacracker> k3b?...
[01:07] <nozorro> tom_reinke: you just installed? or did you change kernel?
[01:07] <eyequeue> creature, you may like xubuntu then
[01:07] <creature> But it would be awesom if someone could say "Yeah, I've run Ubuntu on an old machine, and it worked fine."
[01:07] <tom_reinke> I just installed pretty much
[01:07] <sovieticool> how i update gaim ?
[01:07] <tamacracker> where do i download k3b from?
[01:07] <ladydoor> tamacracker: bashburn
[01:07] <eyequeue> creature, i have :)  but i tend to avoid guis also
[01:07] <tamacracker> or bashburn...
[01:07] <erUSUL> skurupu: which model? maybe is the card the one not detected...
[01:07] <nu> sovieticool: do it through synaptic
[01:07] <creature> It's being donated to a college student, so it needs a browser, email, IM, and a word processor.
[01:07] <Jamminpotato> where is gconf at?
[01:07] <ladydoor> sovieticool: do you have the new gaim source downloaded already?
[01:07] <tom_reinke> nozorro, and my mouse will jump all across the screen and sometimes it'll turn my computer off
[01:07] <tamacracker> ack i need to learn how to use terminal
[01:07] <sovieticool> no ladydoor
[01:07] <creature> Which unfortunately means Firefox/Thunderbird, Gaim, and Open Office.
[01:07] <eyequeue> sovieticool, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gaim
[01:07] <nozorro> tom_reinke: using dapper or edgy
[01:07] <creature> Most of which are huge.
[01:08] <tom_reinke> nozorro, not only that but the OS crashes all the time, and so do apps
[01:08] <tamacracker> ladydoor... may i get the information on how to download and install bashburn?
[01:08] <tom_reinke> nozorro, dapper
[01:08] <sovieticool> eyequeue, which first :)
[01:08] <g333k_work>  I have installed JWM, how to use it instead of gnome?
[01:08] <ladydoor> sovieticool: ok, well first go to gaim's website and find their most recent sources
[01:08] <tom_reinke> nozorro, it might also help if I tell you I'm using xubuntu
[01:08] <nu> why not update through syanptic?
[01:08] <nozorro> tom_reinke: do you have a clean install or did you mess with sth important?
[01:08] <ladydoor> tamacracker: http://bashburn.sourceforge.net/
[01:08] <eyequeue> sovieticool, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gaim"  that line will do them in that order
[01:08] <nu> all you do is click "apply"
[01:08] <bsdfox> creature, xfce will run fine on a 200mhz as long as you give it ram
[01:08] <tom_reinke> nozorro, but I'm trying to burn a ubuntu to a CD and it just won't let me.
[01:08] <skurupu> erUSUL, its a Promise Ultra 133 tx2
[01:09] <riddlebox> how can I change a keyboard key to be something else?
[01:09] <Tonren> My USB flash memory is being mounted as a Read-Only FileSystem.  How do I stop it from doing this?
[01:09] <tamacracker> ladydoor Thank you :)
[01:09] <creature> bsdfox: The box has 96Mb.
[01:09] <tom_reinke> nozorro, Oh not to mention that my touchpad and the little mouse knub don't work at all eiuther
[01:09] <snerge> Sup, LVM question : Why after extending my logical volume I cannot extend my /usr reiserfs filesystem , it says that "already is the needed size, Nothing to be done" I did check lvcan and my LV is much bigger than my filesystem
[01:09] <ladydoor> tamacracker: np :-)
[01:09] <bsdfox> tonren: mount -o rw
[01:09] <sovieticool> thank eyequeue
[01:09] <creature> It's a bit of a stopgap measure, alas.
[01:09] <nozorro> tom_reinke: the other symptoms point to some serious sw problem or even possible hardware failure
[01:09] <bsdfox> creature, that will work, the more you can feed it the better it will run
[01:09] <ladydoor> sovieticool: oh, so you didn't want the most recent gaim
[01:09] <eyequeue> creature, that would be very tight for a gui, i think you would want console for that
[01:09] <tgelter> hey guys...I want to install the amd64-k8-smp kernel, but can't find a repository that contains it, any ideas?
[01:09] <creature> eyequeue: The end user will not get far on the CLI.
[01:10] <tom_reinke> nozorro, well, that would make sense seeing as how I pulled this laptop out of a pile of broken ones.. I just thought that XP was the problem..
[01:10] <Hor|zon> lol console...for a college student to do their work?
[01:10] <tom_reinke> nozorro, but, it was running fine for about a day or so
[01:10] <creature> Hor|zon: It's not going to get worked on that much, I reckon.
[01:10] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, i'm not sure why not, i'm no gui fan though
[01:10] <nozorro> tom_reinke: almost surely a hardware problem then. probable heat related. pls. test the memory first
[01:10] <creature> He may bash out the occasional email but it'll get used for IM, the web, email, and minesweeper.
[01:11] <tom_reinke> nozorro, any way to do that through the command line?
[01:11] <eyequeue> creature, though i don't know what the last one is, all the rest are accomplished well in cli apps
[01:11] <creature> Yes, but the end user is a sullen little git who will bitch and whine about the CLI even though he is getting a computer for free.
[01:11] <nu> minesweeper, the game
[01:11] <eyequeue> !minesweeper
[01:11] <ladydoor> !language
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about minesweeper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <nozorro> tom_reinke: i think there's a RAM test option upon booting, you press ESC when the boot manager comes up, and then select the item
[01:11] <nu> cli is handy but when youre in a hurry, gui ftw
[01:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:11] <eyequeue> nu, no idea, but i'm no gamer
[01:12] <creature> Trust me when I say I cannot give him a CLI solution.
[01:12] <nu> eyequeue: itsk ;)
[01:12] <tom_reinke> nozorro, ok, I'll be right back then
[01:12] <eyequeue> !itsk
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itsk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <nu> eyequeue: are you a sys admin?
[01:12] <Hor|zon> well there's only so much talking can do...I say just give xubuntu a shot
[01:12] <Hor|zon> and go from there
[01:12] <eyequeue> nu, er, yes, why?
[01:12] <nu> eyequeue: sys admins can't live without cli =D
[01:12] <eyequeue> creature, i'd consur with xubuntu, considering
[01:12] <nu> eyequeue: i figured you were one since you love it so much
[01:13] <eyequeue> nu, guis didn't exist in my day
[01:13] <creature> Is that an overall recommendation or just one within the Ubuntu ecosystem?
[01:13] <creature> I'm open to other distros if they would be more suitable.
[01:13] <eyequeue> creature, i'd also recommend some extra ram canaballized from the scrap pile, if you can :)
[01:13] <Hor|zon> there's always more minimal DE than XFCE anyways
[01:13] <nu> eyequeue: so you''re old school huh. howcome you still like cli better than gui?
[01:14] <snerge> ne1 good with LVM ?
[01:14] <eyequeue> creature, dsl is damn small linux
[01:14] <sovieticool> i try to intall DC++ from http://easylinux.info/wiki/ tutorial
[01:14] <creature> snerge: I would avoid LVM if I were you.
[01:14] <sovieticool> and now i receve a error
[01:14] <sovieticool>  GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:14] <sovieticool> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:14] <mutk> LVM is easy
[01:14] <creature> It's a nice idea, but if one of your HDs dies then you lose all your data.
[01:14] <snerge> creature, why ?
[01:14] <Hor|zon> haha LVM is just a headache unless you HAVE to use it
[01:14] <eyequeue> nu, guis confuse me, i find them difficult
[01:15] <snerge> mutk, not saying it is hard
[01:15] <Tonren> How do I mount a FAT16 volume so that I have permission to read & write to it without sudoing, like GNOME does automatically?
[01:15] <mjr> creature, that's why you use a raid array under your lvm ;)
[01:15] <snerge> lvm been on hp-ux for years .....
[01:15] <creature> snerge: The drawbacks outweigh the advantages. HDs die, and you're exposing yourself to a higher probability of death.
[01:15] <lupine_85> tonren: set guid=(a-group-you-are-in) ?
[01:15] <creature> mjr: If you can afford to go RAID you can afford a larger HD...
[01:15] <snerge> creature, trust me, my hd won't die
[01:15] <hyperb0lix> Unless it's a damn Dell like mine :)
[01:15] <Tonren> lupine_85: thanks
[01:16] <nozorro> Tonren: i'll give you a link as soon as the pages comes up, pls. wait
[01:16] <nu> eyequeue: that's odd. but well, to each their own =D
[01:16] <creature> snerge: How do you work that out?
[01:16] <snerge> raid + backup
[01:16] <Hor|zon> lol no problem trusting you...only it seems like you trust your hard drives too much
[01:16] <ladydoor> nu: a cli can do many things faster and more simply than a gui. for example, to add a user with a gui, you have to go through a ton of menus and dialogs, whereas on the command-line you type sudo adduser <username>
[01:16] <hbkfabio> join #ubuntu-es
[01:16] <snerge> I don't really care to lose my OS, as long as my data is safe
[01:16] <eyequeue> nu, i'm in gnome now if that console you :)  bad pun
[01:16] <mutk> creature, Huh ??
[01:16] <mutk> LVM + RAID works just fine..
[01:16] <nu> eyequeue: im ussing irssi. it's a cli irc =D
[01:17] <mutk> LVM + RAID + backups even
[01:17] <creature> mutk: Yeah, it does. It's nice enough if you want to do that, I suppose.
[01:17] <Tonren> Crap.. how do I retrieve a file recently deleted with rm?
[01:17] <gel> same
[01:17] <nozorro> Tonren: it's described here, at about the middle of the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:17] <snerge> mutk, I just can't resize my reiserfs "live"
[01:17] <mjr> creature, you've missed LVM's point if you think it's to keep you from needing a bigger HD
[01:17] <eyequeue> ladydoor, not to mention, finding what you need in a gui to add a user, that is a pain, vs "apropos" in console :)
[01:17] <nu> good pun
[01:17] <THX-1138> eyeque - puns police erm more puns please
[01:17] <tamacracker> ladydoor
[01:17] <eyequeue> apropos (1)          - search the manual page names and descriptions
[01:17] <Tonren> nozorro: thanks
[01:17] <ladydoor> eyequeue: totally
[01:17] <snerge> resize_reiserfs tells me "it is is already is of the needed size"
[01:17] <tamacracker> tar zxvf BashBurn-1.8.0.tar.gz does not work...
[01:17] <creature> mjr: No, I understand what it is for, I just think it's a bit redundant these days.
[01:17] <snerge> but still the lvm is bigger
[01:17] <ladydoor> eyequeue: thanks! you just taught me something new!
[01:17] <nu> eyequeue: could you say you could live with a cli only OS?
[01:17] <creature> But that's just me.
[01:18] <eyequeue> nu, there's just so many nifty tools in console, play there some day :)
[01:18] <eyequeue> nu, i have for years
[01:18] <nu> Amazing
[01:18] <Hor|zon> lol for a single user system LVM is a bit redundant maybe
[01:18] <snerge> creature, you can use lvm as some kind of quota system
[01:18] <nu> just a black screen with white text/
[01:18] <THX-1138> CLI is for scripting - why do something repetitive in a gui. there is a bunch of stuff you can't do in the gui too. - man xscreensaver
[01:18] <creature> If you're using LVM as a quotaing system, I'm not sure I'm the one that's missed the point. :)
[01:18] <eyequeue> nu, i don't see what the fascination with guis is, but you seem to think they are indispensable, that somewhat surprises me
[01:19] <snerge> just telling you you can
[01:19] <ladydoor> tamacracker: sorry, was that for me?
[01:19] <Tonren> Come on guys... any way to get back a file removed with rm?
[01:19] <tamacracker> ladydoor yes
[01:19] <creature> Tonren: It depends on the underlying filesystem.
[01:19] <tamacracker> i downloaded the file
[01:19] <ladydoor> tamacracker: ok, hmmm....what error does it give you?
[01:19] <eyequeue> nu, not that i don't see "tastes" as a factor, just didn't think it would seem a critical need is all
[01:19] <tamacracker> ok hold on
[01:19] <Tonren> creature: FAT16... or ext3
[01:19] <snerge> still have to reboot the freaking thing
[01:19] <Hor|zon> you can't get the file back
[01:19] <Hor|zon> >.>
[01:19] <creature> Fat16 is easy. Ext3 is trickier but doable.
[01:19] <Hor|zon> you removed it
[01:19] <creature> You can get it back.
[01:19] <Hor|zon> <.<
[01:19] <tamacracker> tar: BashBurn-1.8.0.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[01:20] <Hor|zon> completely?
[01:20] <Tonren> creature: DO I use "recover"?
[01:20] <eyequeue> unrm (1)             - disk data recovery
[01:20] <creature> The data's still there. You've just removed the entry in the FAT (for Fat16) or unlinked the inode (ext3).
[01:20] <tamacracker> the file is on my desktop
[01:20] <nu> eyequeue: It's that i find GUI quicker in some cases. double-clicking a text file to edit it, easier to see files in a directory. its handy for when youre on the go
[01:20] <eyequeue> Tonren, ^^
[01:20] <creature> Tonren: I've done it before, but I can't remember how. I think I used recover.
[01:20] <tamacracker> ladydoor tar: BashBurn-1.8.0.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[01:20] <creature> unrm sounds good too.
[01:20] <ladydoor> sovieticool: ok, try these instructions instead http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378
[01:20] <eyequeue> nu, ls?
[01:20] <creature> I did it the long way - drop to single-user mode, etc.
[01:20] <sovieticool> k
[01:20] <Tonren> eyequeue: Is that a package...?  a man page?  I can't get to either
[01:20] <nu> eyequeue: ls lists them out
[01:20] <ladydoor> tamacracker: do this:  ls (to see whether it exists in this dir)
[01:20] <sovieticool> thank's ladydoor
[01:21] <ladydoor> sovieticool: np!
[01:21] <nu> eyequeue: in gui, you see them nifty, and if youre looking for a certain file, you can start typing the name of it
[01:21] <nu> and itll hightlight it for you
[01:21] <ladydoor> sovieticool: oh, and btw, you may need to compile it with the command scons --debug=1
[01:21] <tamacracker> ladydoor automatix-installer  Examples     key.gpg.asc
[01:21] <tamacracker> Desktop              fontpatches  w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[01:21] <THX-1138> !automatix
[01:22] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:22] <THX-1138> *cringes*
[01:22] <JosefK> shouldn't ubotu be warning against automatix? :/
[01:22] <ladydoor> tamacracker: thanks...for future reference, there's a site called paste.ubuntu-nl.org where you can paste the output of commands. do you remember where you downloaded it to? if not you man need to download it again.
[01:22] <THX-1138> YES!
[01:22] <jrib> "Use at your own risk"
[01:22] <eyequeue> nu, bash-completion :)
[01:22] <Tonren> creature: wait, so, how do I do it on FAT16?
[01:22] <JosefK> that doesn't quite cover the danger jrib
[01:22] <nozorro> JosefK: it does
[01:22] <nu> eyequeue:  you have a point. hehe
[01:22] <zepski> !glx
[01:22] <creature> God knows in Linux. I used Norton the last time I had to do that, or something similar.
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <eyequeue> Tonren, i'm trying to determine how it got on my system
[01:23] <creature> There was a thing called Tiramisu a few years back that kicked some ass.
[01:23] <tamacracker> ladydoor  /home/tamacracker/Desktop/BashBurn-1.8.0.tar.gz
[01:23] <Tonren> eyequeue: wait crap... not FAT16... i meant... i meant ext3.  god this sucks
[01:23] <Tonren> eyequeue: I'm trying recover
[01:23] <axee> anyone know how I can make linux allow me to press 2 mouse buttons at the same time? (m1/m2) i have a logitech mx518
[01:23] <nu> Anyone know how to use dual-monitor on ubuntu? i have my vga driver installed
[01:23] <axee> (and they both work(
[01:23] <creature> Fat16 would only really be used on a floppy these days.
[01:23] <THX-1138> axee - mouse chords - nice
[01:23] <eyequeue> !xinerama > nu
[01:23] <sovieticool> ladydoor, how i unistall DC++ ( linuxdcpp.tar.gz)
[01:23] <bionoid> nu: look into xinerama or mergefb
[01:23] <ladydoor> tamacracker: oh! ok. do this:  cd Desktop (to Change Dir into your Desktop dir) and then try tar xvzf again :-)
[01:24] <nu> thanks eyequeue and binoid
[01:24] <axee> THX-1138: in new to linux, could you please explain some more :o
[01:24] <nu> !xinerama
[01:24] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[01:24] <Hor|zon> hmm, does anyone know how to get the output of a command in a bash script?
[01:24] <ladydoor> sovieticool: go back into the dir the source is in and do sudo make uninstall
[01:24] <tamacracker> ladydoor ok :)
[01:24] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, foo > bar
[01:24] <Hor|zon> I gave up looking ages ago
[01:24] <Hor|zon> >.>
[01:24] <zepski> Fatal server error:                                                 ng        no GLX visuals available
[01:24] <creature> Hor|zon: What do you want to do with the output? And is it outputting to stdout or stderr?
[01:24] <bionoid> Hor|zon: VAR=`command`
[01:24] <Hor|zon> does that work!?
[01:24] <sovieticool> ok boss :)
[01:24] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, bar contrains the output of foo
[01:24] <Hor|zon> please don't tell me it was that simple
[01:24] <C3030> hi, I keep getting seg faults when I apt-get amsn, after I installed some i386 binaries on my i686 system, and I can't compile from source without tcl-dev, which I can't get... Anyone understand what's happening?
[01:24] <JosefK> ladydoor: yes, it is (someone has it registered though, so no pm'ing :()
[01:25] <Hor|zon> lol all this time I've been scripting around it :O
[01:25] <ladydoor> JosefK: aha. well, it is a good reference
[01:25] <JosefK> ladydoor: kafka, and my harrowing experience with dell customer support
[01:25] <JosefK> ladydoor: ^^
[01:25] <kwah> hi all
[01:25] <Hor|zon> I guess I can make my scripts a lot less bloated now
[01:25] <Hor|zon> =/
[01:25] <kwah> I heard edgy knot-3 is out
[01:25] <tamacracker> ladydoor thank you, now let me see if i can install this on my own :)
[01:25] <kwah> :)
[01:25] <ladydoor> tamacracker: sweet! good luck
[01:25] <Brinks> Can Ubuntu be installed on the same drive as windows without using some 3rd party partitioning software to make the windows parition smaller and a new one?
[01:26] <Brinks> I mean, can Ubuntu do that itself, make the new paritions from space from the windows one
[01:26] <bionoid> Brinks: Ubuntu does that for you, no need for 3rd party software :)
[01:26] <Brinks> and make it the filesystem it needs
[01:26] <Brinks> k
[01:26] <JosefK> Brinks: if you defrag your windows drive first, ubuntu can do it for you relatively safely
[01:26] <Brinks> that'll kick ass then
[01:26] <Brinks> thanks
[01:26] <Hor|zon> "3rd party"?
[01:26] <Brinks> like Partition Magic
[01:26] <Brinks> or something
[01:26] <kwah> Brinks: DO BACKUP FIRST anyway!!!
[01:26] <Hor|zon> lol if you ask me the live cd partitioning sucks
[01:26] <Hor|zon> use partition magic in windows
[01:26] <Hor|zon> or something
[01:27] <sovieticool> ladydoor, i don't know where is it the dir source :(
[01:27] <C3030> hi, I keep getting seg faults when I apt-get amsn, after I installed some i386 binaries on my i686 system, and I can't compile from source without tcl-dev, which I can't get... Anyone understand what's happening?
[01:27] <eyequeue> the alternate cd is always better than the live cd for installs anyway
[01:27] <nozorro> Brinks: there's also the gparted live disk for that, free software
[01:27] <ladydoor> sovieticool: how did you install it? with ./configure, make, sudo make install or some other way?
[01:27] <bionoid> C3030: do you get a segfault when running apt-get?! or when running amsn after apt-get?
[01:27] <tamacracker> oh lord
[01:27] <JosefK> C3030: can you paste the error to
[01:27] <JosefK> !paste
[01:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:27] <nozorro> Brinks: make backups anyway before fiddling with the partitions
[01:27] <C3030> bionoid: when running it
[01:28] <C3030> JosefK: Ok, one minute.
[01:28] <PFA> my comp is frozen. what do i do.
[01:28] <lupine_85> defrost it?
[01:28] <sovieticool> ladydoor,
[01:28] <sovieticool> sudo make uninstall
[01:28] <Hor|zon> completely? no hard drive activity?
[01:28] <PFA> wow thanks lupine_85
[01:28] <sovieticool> sudo tar zxvf
[01:28] <sovieticool> sry
[01:28] <JosefK> C3030: ah, if it's when running it, it's not worth pasting (it's amsn related, not apt)
[01:28] <lupine_85> PFA: how frozen? Can you ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[01:28] <PFA> lupine_85: yeah, that's what im doing right now
[01:29] <tamacracker> ladydoor im such a newb...
[01:29] <lupine_85> in that case, killing your X server should do the trick
[01:29] <nozorro> PFA: did you try ctrl+alt+backspace from desktop?
[01:29] <lupine_85> sudo killall X ?
[01:29] <tamacracker> ladydoor it says as Route run the script: sh Install.sh
[01:29] <ladydoor> sovieticool: that just unpacks it though. did you do anything after that?  also, please say my nick if you want me to get it
[01:29] <PFA> nozorro: no i did not h/o
[01:29] <sovieticool> ladydoor, this is the line i used sudo tar zxvf linuxdcpp.tar.gz -C /opt
[01:29] <Hor|zon> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:29] <Hor|zon> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:29] <Hor|zon> >.>
[01:29] <C3030> JosefK: Yeah, Got any ideas what's happening?
[01:29] <nozorro> PFA: this key combo kills the grph. interface and restarts it
[01:30] <Hor|zon> I don't like just killing it...although I'm not sure if there's any difference
[01:30] <C3030> should I go to #amsn or something?
[01:30] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, there is also "restart" in most init scripts these days
[01:30] <PFA> nozorro: oooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh kewl thankeez
[01:30] <Tonren> AARGGHH!!! recover can't find the file I JUST deleted!!! AARRRGHHH!!!
[01:30] <PFA> buh bye thanks guys
[01:30] <ladydoor> tamacracker: ok, so do sudo ./Install.sh. sudo is a command that lets you be root for just the space of one command. it'll ask for *your* password, and it won't look like you're typing anything, but it'll work.
[01:30] <ladydoor> sovieticool: oh, ok. and that's everything?
[01:30] <tamacracker> ahh i see
[01:30] <JosefK> C3030: not a clue, if it's a segfault it could be a lot of things, #amsn is your best bet
[01:30] <tamacracker> ladydoor sudo always = root for one command
[01:30] <Hor|zon> actually it's reload with gdm
[01:30] <ladydoor> tamacracker: isn't that what i said?
[01:30] <C3030> JosefK: THanks, I'll try there
[01:31] <zepski> how does one set x to load on a certain resolution
[01:31] <tamacracker> ladydoor :( i need to learn the scripts for terminal of ubuntu
[01:31] <sovieticool> ladydoor, this steps wget -c http://easylinux.info/uploads/linuxdcpp.tar.gz
[01:31] <sovieticool> sudo tar zxvf linuxdcpp.tar.gz -C /opt
[01:31] <sovieticool> gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/dcpp.desktop
[01:31] <ladydoor> tamacracker: oh! sorry. i thought you were someone else telling me i was wrong
[01:31] <eyequeue> !rute > tamacracker
[01:31] <ladydoor> tamacracker: i didn't mean to snap. it's not too hard once you get started learning
[01:32] <TigerDuck> Hi there
[01:32] <ladydoor> tamacracker: lots of instructions here and on the forums will have terminal commands
[01:32] <ladydoor> sovieticool: ok, cool. in that case you don't need to uninstall it if you don't want to
[01:32] <tamacracker> ladydoor that command is not working
[01:32] <tamacracker> ladydoor ./Install.sh
[01:32] <JosefK> tamacracker: permission denied?
[01:32] <BHSPitMonkey> o.o
[01:33] <ladydoor> sovieticool: but if you *really* do, you can remove dcpp.desktop and then remove linuxdcpp from /opt
[01:33] <tamacracker> JosefK no... command not found.
[01:33] <Hor|zon> chmod +x  Install.sh
[01:33] <SpudDogg> Does anyone here know why when I remote desktop into a windows box, the colors are all messed up?
[01:33] <JosefK> tamacracker: check capitalisation first (install.sh?) if it's not that, make sure you're in the same path as the Install script
[01:33] <Hor|zon> command not found...is the i captilized?
[01:33] <ladydoor> tamacracker: ok...this is going to sound sillly, but just see if the file exists. Do ls (LiSt) to list the files in your current dir
[01:34] <ladydoor> tamacracker: actually, do ls -l
[01:34] <ladydoor> tamacracker: and make sure that Install.sh has, at the beginning of its line, rwxrwxrwx or something of the sort
[01:34] <Hor|zon> hmm hey, does anyone know why there's a dir command when there's ls?
[01:34] <JosefK> Hor|zon: check your ~/.bashrc, it's an alias
[01:35] <Hor|zon> ah
[01:35] <Hor|zon> makes sense
[01:35] <nozorro> Hor|zon: it's been included for those who know it :-)
[01:35] <Hor|zon> heh sounds a bit silly to me
[01:35] <tamacracker> ladydoor drwxr-xr-x 8 tamacracker tamacracker  4096 2006-05-07 18:06 BashBurn-1.8.0
[01:36] <tamacracker> next ubuntu needs to come up with a simpler way of doin this... if i had no internet connection Ubuntu would be useless to me
[01:36] <ladydoor> tamacracker: aha! ok, you need to cd into BashBurn-1.8.0. it's the color it is because it's a directory
[01:36] <Brinks> hey, if I'm paritioning this up in windows how many partitions should I make?
[01:36] <ladydoor> tamacracker: and then try sudo ./Install.sh.
[01:36] <tamacracker> ok
[01:36] <SuperMiguel> how can i set my su password?
[01:36] <THX-1138> Mouse Chording      ~/.imwheelrc    http://katze-mit-wut.azundris.com/archives/126-Microsoft-IntelliMouse-Explorer-2.0,-linux,-xemacs,-and-x.org.html
[01:36] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, sigh
[01:36] <JosefK> !root > SuperMiguel
[01:37] <eyequeue> !root > SuperMiguel
[01:37] <ladydoor> SuperMiguel: sudo passwd root, but officially you're not supposed to.
[01:37] <ladydoor> SuperMiguel: you should probably use sudo instead if you're not an experienced linuxite
[01:37] <nozorro> Brinks: you'l need two partitions at minimum, one for the system, one for swap
[01:37] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, read the url for security cautions
[01:37] <ladydoor> SuperMiguel: or even if you are
[01:37] <Hor|zon> sometimes you need to use su
[01:37] <stamina|xr7> hey ppl
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> yep
[01:37] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, never
[01:37] <ladydoor> Hor|zon: oh, i know. i use it all the time
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> xD
[01:37] <JosefK> Hor|zon: sudo bash
[01:37] <Hor|zon> some things still don't work properly with sudo
[01:37] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, what will not?
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> hey guys
[01:38] <SuperMiguel> or girsl
[01:38] <sharkiezz> hey guys, does anyone know where on the ubuntu.com site will link to torrent the ubuntu cd images?
[01:38] <TigerDuck> Q: heise.de reported there was a screw-up in the kernel update to 2.6.16-26 as you could read in http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/78254/from/atom10 (German). Does anyone know it this has been fixed be now?
[01:38] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to remote into linux from windows
[01:38] <eyequeue> TigerDuck, /topic ?
[01:38] <JosefK> SuperMiguel: you've got some options there, do you want Graphical or Text based?
[01:38] <TigerDuck> eyequeue: oops
[01:38] <ladydoor> SuperMiguel: download putty (it's the first result when you google "putty"
[01:38] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, ssh protocol, putty for example
[01:38] <SuperMiguel> putty is text base?
[01:39] <tamacracker> ladydoor ok now it's askin me if im a Slackware user and do i wish to keep the standard installtion locations
[01:39] <SuperMiguel> right
[01:39] <nozorro> Hor|zon: for graphical apps, use gksu or gksudo instead of sudo
[01:39] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, no, it's some gui app
[01:39] <ladydoor> tamacracker: nope! you're an ubuntu user :-)
[01:39] <JosefK> SuperMiguel: yes, install the openssh-server package on the Ubuntu box
[01:39] <SuperMiguel> i did
[01:39] <TigerDuck> SuperMiguel: it's easy, if you install cygwin and putty
[01:39] <Hor|zon> there's a howto in the howto section of the forums for setting up a vnc server
[01:39] <tamacracker> ok
[01:39] <tamacracker> ladydoor ok
[01:39] <SuperMiguel> i did but
[01:39] <SuperMiguel> it just give me a terminal seccion
[01:39] <ladydoor> tamacracker: oh, and let me know if you need any help setting it up after you install it. it takes some configgerin'
[01:39] <SuperMiguel> not graphic
[01:39] <Hor|zon> heh I don't like gksu, it looks dodgy with the nvidia drivers
[01:39] <JosefK> SuperMiguel: alas, yes, it's just text based
[01:39] <sovieticool> ladydoor, i do it thank's
[01:39] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, of course, what else would it be?
[01:39] <TigerDuck> SuperMiguel: use putty for an X11 tunnel
[01:40] <Hor|zon> and I like seeing the output
[01:40] <Hor|zon> >.>
[01:40] <ladydoor> sovieticool: it worked?
[01:40] <TigerDuck> SuperMiguel: then start an x-session in cygwin
[01:40] <JosefK> SuperMiguel: the nicest looking desktop (imo) is with Cygwin's X server and enabling remoting from the GDM config, but VNC works also
[01:40] <sovieticool> yes
[01:40] <nozorro> Hor|zon: with the standard nv driver it looks the same though
[01:40] <SuperMiguel> cygwin is secure?
[01:40] <stamina|xr7> hey....anyone know where i can get a changelog for all these compiz updates....just got like the 5th one this week
[01:40] <TigerDuck> SuperMiguel: putty is secure
[01:40] <sovieticool> ladydoor, i delete it :D now to intall it from forum tutorial whit that link
[01:40] <stamina|xr7> i want t oknow what they are for
[01:40] <Hor|zon> not the opensource ones...those are useless...I'm talking about the slightly less useless closed ones
[01:41] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, you want ssh protocol to be secure
[01:41] <ladydoor> sovieticool: sweet. good luck!
[01:41] <SuperMiguel> there us ssh with graphics?
[01:41] <JosefK> SuperMiguel: cygwin is a port of a lot of GNU/Other tools to Windows, X is one of them
[01:41] <tamacracker> oh my god
[01:41] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, the putty app is a gui app
[01:41] <Hor|zon> heh if you ask me they need to let us disable the fading thingy anyways
[01:41] <tamacracker> ladydoor lol i have to type commands in order to burn a cd?
[01:41] <nozorro> stamina|xr7: look in /usr/share/doc/<packagename> there's a changelog there for *every package
[01:41] <eyequeue> putty (1)            - GUI SSH, Telnet and Rlogin client for X
[01:41] <Hor|zon> I want it to grab the mouse and keyboard...I just don't want the ugly effect
[01:41] <sovieticool> ladydoor, how do i change resolution to 1280x1024
[01:41] <Tonren> Guys, there is something HORRIBLY WRONG witht he way my FAT16 Compact Flash card is mounting, and it's REALLY frustrating, and I have NO idea what to do with it.
[01:42] <ladydoor> tamacracker: not...exactly.
[01:42] <Hor|zon> has someone worked out how to do it? is it even possible?
[01:42] <THX-1138> !mouse
[01:42] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:42] <stamina|xr7> nozorro: thanlks
[01:42] <mangobot> hey, i have an issue: when i try to install ubuntu from the livecd, the load of the live desktop stops and then this error comes: Disk error F1, AX = 4200, drive 9F, I/0 error, error reading  boot cd
[01:42] <ladydoor> sovieticool: i'm sorry, i'm not sure
[01:42] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, putty (1)            - GUI SSH, Telnet and Rlogin client for X
[01:42] <mangobot> can someone help?
[01:42] <SuperMiguel> eyequeue: but when i use putty it give a base text windows
[01:42] <creature> Are you sure it's Fat16, Tonren? Why not fat32?
[01:42] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, inside a gui
[01:42] <sovieticool> ladydoor, ok it's cool i will find
[01:42] <Tamale> DBO:  No luck.. still "no direct rendering"
[01:42] <Tonren> creature: I am using it with a Gameboy Advance flash cartridge so I can do GBA development; i trequires FAT16
[01:42] <ladydoor> tamacracker: sorry...when you started i thought that was the kind of thing you wanted :-(. but on the plus side, its interface is very intuitive
[01:42] <SuperMiguel> inside a gui?
[01:43] <Hor|zon> =_=
[01:43] <creature> Tonren: neat.
[01:43] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, yes, the putty app is a gui app
[01:43] <SuperMiguel> ok
[01:43] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, putty will not run in console
[01:43] <mangobot> hey, i have an issue: when i try to install ubuntu from the livecd, the load of the live desktop stops and then this error comes: Disk error F1, AX = 4200, drive 9F, I/0 error, error reading  boot cd
[01:43] <stamina|xr7> haha how do i use nick complete in xchat?
[01:43] <tamacracker> ladydoor i just need to burn my mp3s into a cd so that i can listen to my cd on anything
[01:43] <Tonren> creature: It was... in Windows.  :\   Now this completely inexplicable problem has completely stopped me dead in my tracks.
[01:43] <quiet> will simply installing network-manager-gnome add the icon the panel? or how do i add it? and does it work out-of-the-box after a restart?
[01:43] <eyequeue> stamina|xr7, e y e tab
[01:43] <TigerDuck> mangobot: you are repeating yourself
[01:43] <mangobot> yes
[01:43] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, just how GUI do you want it?
[01:43] <mangobot> lol
[01:43] <tamacracker> ladydoor but here's my mp3s folders /media/illriginal/My Downloads
[01:43] <Tonren> creature: There's no rhyme or reason to it.  Sometimes it loads with perfect read/write permissions, but I get a black screen when I open the ROM on the GBA. Other times it loads with literally NO permissions
[01:43] <stamina|xr7> eyequeue, haha thanks
[01:44] <eyequeue> stamina|xr7, no prob
[01:44] <ladydoor> tamacracker: aha. well, bashburn (i think) works better than any of the guis...but you might like k3b. sorry you had to go through all that...but on the plus side you learned something, i guess...?
[01:44] <SuperMiguel> gnome
[01:44] <JosefK> tamacracker: GnomeBaker is rather good (unless you're using KDE)
[01:44] <creature> Tonren: Fat16 has no concept of permissions.
[01:44] <creature> They're an abstraction/fakery added by the mounting code.
[01:44] <jptxs> hello
[01:44] <creature> You can choose the permissions when you mount the device.
[01:45] <PhilH> Sanmiguel, i just mean what functions do you want to be able to access through a gui
[01:45] <tamacracker> Josefk how do i get my hands on Gnomebaker?
[01:45] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, you want to install gnome on your ms box, and then ssh into the ubuntu box?
[01:45] <Tonren> creature: Well, something horrible is happening.
[01:45] <SuperMiguel> how do i do that
[01:45] <JosefK> tamacracker: sudo aptitude install gnomebaker
[01:45] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, is it actually SSH you want or VNC?
[01:45] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, gnome.org may have ms-based gnome available, check there i guess
[01:45] <Hor|zon> I think he said vnc
[01:45] <Hor|zon> in the first place
[01:45] <Hor|zon> >.>
[01:45] <SuperMiguel> i have ssh installed
[01:46] <creature> Tonren: You're not relying on an automounter at all, are you?
[01:46] <Tonren> creature: Nope
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> but it give a base text xD
[01:46] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, on both ends?
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> umm
[01:46] <PhilH> eyequeue, MS based GNOME?!
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> just on one computer
[01:46] <eyequeue> PhilH, he can check
[01:46] <tamacracker> Josefk now that's simple to download and install that's what i like.... now hopefully it's user-friendly
[01:46] <TigerDuck> SuperMiguel: with putty/cygwin/remote X you will only get graphic application windows but no gnome "desktop"
[01:46] <Hor|zon> SuperMigeul....what do you actually want to do? remote desktop?
[01:46] <PhilH> eyequeue, sure, but there's no need to confuse the issue further
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> something like that
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> but secure
[01:46] <JosefK> TigerDuck: incorrect
[01:46] <b^j> i can't install libgtk2.0-dev due to some weird dependency issues with versions of the libs higher then versions of the lib*-dev's is this a known thing, is it fixable or do i have to wait for the archive maintainers to get their acts togather
[01:46] <eyequeue> PhilH, he asked for that though
[01:46] <jptxs> I've got an ISO which I used to install 6.06 server in a VMWare VM with no issues.  I burned it, checked it for errors (booted it and ran the media check) in VMWare, took the same disk and put it into another PC and did the same media check and it failed on one of the kernel image files.  I've gone through 13 ISOs, two batched of CDROMs, and used two different burners all with the same results.
[01:46] <sovieticool> ladydoor, from the begining the link from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378 don't work
[01:47] <TigerDuck> SuperMiguel: use tightVNC
[01:47] <jptxs> ideas?
[01:47] <PhilH> Ah, tunneling  VNC though SSH?
[01:47] <Hor|zon> oh...he wwants vnc over ssh
[01:47] <JosefK> TigerDuck: if you enable XDMCP in GDM, you can run 'X -broadcast' or 'X -query *IP*'
[01:47] <arcasa> Hi all. I used WINE to install the windows version of FireFox in the hope I would be able to watch AND listen to flash. Firefox installed the plugin automatically, all was well. Now when I play a flash I get maybe 2fps and no sound... Please help :(
[01:47] <ladydoor> sovieticool: oh yeah, you need to install cvs. sudo aptitude install cv
[01:47] <ladydoor> s
[01:47] <JosefK> TigerDuck: that gets you a login X session
[01:47] <b^j> vnc over ssh is easy
[01:47] <jptxs> shorter question: is there a way to do an ftp/http install with 6.06?  not in docs...
[01:47] <ladydoor> hey, does anybody know where puTTy saves its config files?
[01:47] <PhilH> b^j how do you access it on the windows client side?
[01:47] <jrib> !flash > arcasa
[01:48] <ladydoor> because i'd like to have it on a usbdisk
[01:48] <Tonren> creature: It's not paying attention to mount -o rw
[01:48] <b^j> PhilH, you use putty?
[01:48] <Tonren> creature: I'm not getting write permissions
[01:48] <jrib> arcasa: that should fix your sound issues on the linux version of flash
[01:48] <Renan_s2> ladydoor, on Linux should be ~/.putty, I guess, but on Windows it is on the registry
[01:48] <TigerDuck> ladydoor: in the registry
[01:48] <axee> anyone know what i should look into for pressing x2 mouse buttons at the same time (its not working atm)
[01:48] <eyequeue> ladydoor, .putty/
[01:48] <ladydoor> Renan_s2: could i get it to save into the putty dir on my usbstick?
[01:48] <PhilH> b^j, does putty have VNC support?
[01:48] <Renan_s2> ladydoor, I don't know
[01:48] <b^j> PhilH, easiest thing is to use putty's forwarding
[01:48] <creature> Tonren: weird. Anything in the syslog?
[01:48] <b^j> PhilH, no, you forward the port with it though
[01:48] <PhilH> b^j, ah, cool
[01:49] <b^j> PhilH, there are howtos on google for it
[01:49] <b^j> PhilH, Just look up putty vnc
[01:49] <PhilH> b^j, thanks, i'll have to take a look
[01:49] <eyequeue> llok, try putty connection>ssh>x11  isn't that what he wants?
[01:49] <eyequeue> look rather
[01:49] <b^j> PhilH, If you can't find it give me a yell
[01:49] <jdlas> I wrote pine in my home, and the program created to me some files and a folder called email.. I would like to know how can I undo this ??
[01:49] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel,  try putty connection>ssh>x11  isn't that what you want?
[01:49] <jptxs> shorter question: is there a way to do an ftp/http install with 6.06?  not in docs...
[01:50] <Tonren> creature: WEIRD shit coming out of dmesg
[01:50] <TigerDuck> eyequeue: I think he really wants a complete desktop
[01:50] <JosefK> jdlas: just delete them, pine won't complain
[01:50] <Tonren> creature: hang on, i'll pastebin
[01:50] <SuperMiguel> hey
[01:50] <b^j> jptxs, try the alternate install cd
[01:50] <superjew9020> can anyone help me i downloaded a tar.gz theme for gtk on freshmeat.net but when i try and install it gnome theme installer says it is an invalid format
[01:50] <PhilH> eyequeue, i'm not sure we want to deal with X here
[01:50] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, "X11" means gui
[01:50] <jptxs> b^j: i will, but for curiosity, why?
[01:50] <Tonren> creature: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23565
[01:50] <mluser-work> Anyone know what package "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3" belongs to?
[01:50] <nozorro> superjew9020: it's it's likely a theme *engine
[01:51] <superjew9020> what??
[01:51] <b^j> jptxs, b/c thats how you install in alternate manners to the live cd
[01:51] <superjew9020> its a tar.gz gtk theme
[01:51] <slight> superjew9020, have you tried more than one?
[01:51] <SuperMiguel> i have a question i just donwload a file from no-ip.com and i donwload in two computers on one i put make and it does work on the other one i put make and it says command not found
[01:51] <SuperMiguel> why is that
[01:51] <superjew9020> some work others dont
[01:51] <nozorro> superjew9020: if it fails, it's a theme engine (libraries to drive themes) or a badly packaged theme
[01:51] <JosefK> mluser-work: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-search.en.html - Section 5.4
[01:51] <creature> Tonren: Erk.
[01:51] <Tonren> creature: Actually
[01:51] <Tonren> creature: I think that's old.  Mounting it doesn't actually generate anything in dmesg
[01:51] <creature> I've never seen that before, but it looks like your card is intermittent.
[01:52] <mluser-work> JosefK: thanks
[01:52] <Hor|zon> open the archive and manualy extract the theme to your themes folder >.>
[01:52] <blanky> where can I get ati drivers
[01:52] <SuperMiguel> any ideas?
[01:52] <jptxs> b^j: is alternate the desktop or server version?
[01:52] <Hor|zon> some of them aren't in the right format...you have to put the folder in your themes folder youself
[01:52] <tgelter> anyone know anything about the grub.lst?
[01:52] <b^j> has anyone been able to get libgtk2.0-dev working lately
[01:52] <superjew9020> is ther away to tell wether its a theme or a theme engine
[01:52] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, both linux machines?
[01:52] <SuperMiguel> yep
[01:52] <SuperMiguel> both ubuntu
[01:52] <SuperMiguel> same version
[01:52] <b^j> jptxs, both i think
[01:52] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, one has build tools installed the other doesn't
[01:52] <jptxs> got it
[01:52] <blanky> where can I get ati drivers
[01:52] <eyequeue> tgelter, /biit/grub/menu.lst?
[01:53] <eyequeue> tgelter, /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:53] <ladydoor> SuperMiguel: try installing SuperMiguel install build-essential
[01:53] <tgelter> eyequeue: yes
[01:53] <nozorro> superjew9020: well, read what it says on the site that you're downloading from :-)
[01:53] <superjew9020> it says its a theme
[01:53] <mluser-work> Anyone know what package provides "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3" ?
[01:53] <SuperMiguel> build-essentials?
[01:53] <nozorro> superjew9020: can you give me a link?
[01:53] <Tonren> creature: This is weird... I'm consistently not getting write access now... but I was definitely able to write to it before!
[01:53] <b^j> blanky, http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html
[01:53] <blanky> where may I get ati drivers, anyone?
[01:53] <eyequeue> ladydoor, s/SuperMiguel/sudo apt-get/ ? :)
[01:53] <ladydoor> SuperMiguel: build-essential. it's a package
[01:53] <blanky> thanks b^j
[01:53] <tgelter> eyequeue: I can't get it to auto-update it to include new kernels that I install through aptitude/synaptic
[01:53] <sovieticool> what is kernel headers and how i use them
[01:53] <Zunino> Hello. Could anybody give me some assistance with CD copying in Dapper?
[01:53] <sovieticool> >?
[01:53] <blanky> *sighs*
[01:53] <blanky> !ati
[01:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:54] <creature> Tonren: I think your card is dying.
[01:54] <superjew9020> http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/ganymede__/
[01:54] <tamacracker> Josefk now that's what I'm talkin bout... it's burnin my mp3 ;)
[01:54] <Tonren> creature: That... COULD be it.
[01:54] <eyequeue> tgelter, i don't know, i use apt-get and it's automatic here, if that helps
[01:54] <tamacracker> ladydoor thanks for your help as well
[01:54] <Tonren> creature: I didn't really use it that much until now
[01:55] <jptxs> thank all, bbl perhaps
[01:55] <darkfox> hi all.  my ubuntu has suddenly started spitting out 'undefined symbol: exit, version GLIBC_2.0' whenever I run any command :(  does anyone have any ideas?
[01:55] <PhilH> mluser-work, search for a package beginning libstdc++
[01:55] <PhilH> it might be in one of those
[01:55] <tgelter> eyequeue: yes, it's been automatic for me always too, but I set up my fakeraid and had to debootstrap dapper, then configure everything manually...and I don't know how to make my grub.lst auto-update w/ new kernel installes
[01:55] <Zunino> How do you copy a CD (audio one in this case) without using an external application?
[01:55] <tgelter> anyone else have any experience with /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:55] <b^j> can someone try installing libgtk2.0-dev for me, i can't get it to download due to dependencies and want to see if it si just me
[01:56] <b^j> tgelter, what do you need?
[01:56] <PhilH> Zunino, you want to do it with BASH?
[01:56] <Zunino> No, with Gnome
[01:56] <eyequeue> tgelter, nor do i, sorry
[01:56] <Zunino> Nautilus
[01:56] <PhilH> Zunino, you probably can't
[01:56] <Zunino> I tried "copy cd" and then "write to disk"
[01:56] <Tonren> creature: to allow all permissions, DMASK and FMASK should be 0777 right?
[01:56] <Zunino> But it always complains that the image is not a valid ISO image.
[01:56] <PhilH> oh, hang on, i'm using an older version of gnome than dapper
[01:57] <TigerDuck> Kernel update finished ... rebooting
[01:57] <nozorro> superjew9020: this file is probably not correctly packaged, anyway it might also be well out of date. anyway, make sure to download the compressed format of the package (where it says '.gz' on the dl page)
[01:57] <superjew9020> did that
[01:57] <PhilH> Zunino, what's stopping you from using another program?
[01:57] <Zunino> I have tried with another audio CD, but the problem remains. It seems the extracted image is not assembled correctly.
[01:57] <tgelter> b^j: I can't get it to auto-add my new kernel entries when I update my kernel
[01:57] <superjew9020> screw im fed up with gnome im goin to fluxbox
[01:57] <sovieticool> !sconcs
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sconcs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <creature> Tonren: Other way around, probably.
[01:57] <creature> 000, but check the man page.
[01:57] <nozorro> superjew9020: it's quite old really
[01:57] <creature> I suspect it's like umask.
[01:57] <b^j> tgelter, weird, it just works for me, you can just copy entriies and update the path to the new kernel though
[01:58] <Zunino> Nothing, actually. I just wanted to find out whether there's a known problem about that procedure.
[01:58] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how can i shut down a no-ip program
[01:58] <SuperMiguel> in linux
[01:58] <Zunino> From what I read, it should be a piece of cake.
[01:58] <Tonren> creature: I think you're right
[01:58] <Zunino> And I wish it worked.
[01:58] <Tonren> creature: This is bizarre.  No matter what I do, it won't give me write permissions!
[01:58] <tgelter> b^j: yes, I suppose I could, but since new kernel updates happen frequently, I'd like it to be automatic
[01:58] <b^j> tgelter, its actually a really easy file to play with and as long as you leave your old entries there you shouldn't break anything beyond recovery
[01:58] <creature> Tonren: Sounds about right if the card is dying.
[01:58] <b^j> tgelter, thats a package issue more then a grub issue
[01:59] <Tonren> creature: Hm.  I guess I'll hafta try out another one
[01:59] <Zunino> I suspect there might be something I could tweak in the parameters of the CDROM device that would ensure the extraction is OK. But I am only guessing.
[01:59] <creature> Borrow a known-good card and test.
[01:59] <b^j> tgelter, did you edit your menu.list by hand
[01:59] <Tonren> creature: well, thanks for your help.  adios!
[01:59] <Zunino> Thanks anyway, Phil.
[01:59] <PhilH> Zunino, if it needs tweaking then it's a bug
[01:59] <tgelter> b^j: actually, I think it's a problem with my menu.lst configuration...I set it up manually when I installed
[01:59] <Zunino> Agreed
[01:59] <b^j> tgelter, does dpkg give you any errors when a new kernal is install
[01:59] <PhilH> Zunino, if the function is supposed to copy the CD it's obviously not working properly
[01:59] <b^j> tgelter, then dpkg is refusing to edit it
[01:59] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to shut down ssh server?
[01:59] <eyequeue> b^j, <tgelter> eyequeue: yes, it's been automatic for me always too, but I set up my fakeraid and had to debootstrap dapper, then configure everything manually...and I don't know how to make my grub.lst auto-update w/ new kernel installes
[02:00] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[02:00] <tgelter> b^j: no, kernels install fine, and if I add them manually, I can boot from them
[02:00] <Hor|zon> can't you just manually sudo update-grub after new kernel installs?
[02:00] <b^j> tgelter, dpkg might say something to the effect that menu.list has changed and it won't edit it
[02:01] <tgelter> Hor|zon: I could, but that can get annoying since kernel updates are frequent
[02:01] <b^j> tgelter, dpkg is cowardly like that <G>
[02:01] <nozorro> superjew9020: this seems to be a theme for gtk 1.2 not 2.*
[02:02] <b^j> so, has anyone been able to get libgtk2.0-dev installed lately?
[02:02] <sovieticool> i just install krusader and when i start i have a lot of error...mime
[02:02] <Hor|zon> tgelter: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:_7Goq7rl__wJ:www.l0t3k.net/biblio/linux/debian/en/debian-grub.html+automatically+run+update-grub+after+new+kernel+installs&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=3
[02:03] <tgelter> b^j: I just installed another kernel and dpkg reported no errors
[02:03] <Hor|zon> scroll down to automating update-grub
[02:03] <iapx8088> hi
[02:03] <iapx8088> where can I talk to developers to propose a new package?
[02:03] <tgelter> Hor|zon: perfect
[02:03] <tgelter> thanks
[02:03] <iapx8088> a package I made, of course
[02:03] <darkfox> hi all... my libc seems to be hosed :(  dpkg won't run... anyone got any ideas?  "ls: symbol lookup error: ls: undefined symbol: exit, version GLIBC_2.0"
[02:03] <eyequeue> !motu
[02:03] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:04] <iapx8088> o thanks
[02:04] <Hor|zon> :)
[02:04] <mangobot> hey, i have an issue: when i try to install ubuntu from the livecd, the load of the live desktop stops and then this error comes: Disk error F1, AX = 4200, drive 9F, I/0 error, error reading  boot cd
[02:04] <Zunino> Phil, I have found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-138487.html
[02:04] <iapx8088> bye
[02:05] <eyequeue> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[02:05] <Renan_s2> mangobot, damaged CD. Try burning another one
[02:05] <eyequeue> too late
[02:05] <mangobot> i've burned several
[02:05] <Zunino> Apparently, audio CDs must be extracted differently. It sounds odd to me. I thought an image was an image, regardless of the nature of the data it contains.
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> when i'm configuring ssh server and i put ssh -p 8443 localhost
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> it ask me for a password which password is that one
[02:06] <mangobot> Renan_s2: i've burned several cd's, and all do the same thing
[02:06] <GoClick> mangobot perhaps your image is bad
[02:06] <Renan_s2> mangobot, then try downloading the ISO again
[02:06] <micahcowan> SuperMiguel, your own user password.
[02:06] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, the one for the account you are entering
[02:06] <micahcowan> You'r logging
[02:06] <micahcowan> 'scuse me.
[02:06] <GoClick> mangobot Well before you download the ISO again do a checksum
[02:06] <micahcowan> You're logging in as your own username into your local machine.
[02:06] <SuperMiguel> but i put that one and it says that is wrong :S
[02:06] <mangobot> okok
[02:06] <PhilH> Zunino, aha, still needs to be guified but good to know it's not totally broken
[02:06] <GoClick> mangobot do you know what a checksum is and how to do it?
[02:06] <SuperMiguel> it says permission denied
[02:07] <SuperMiguel> um
[02:07] <micahcowan> SuperMiguel, well probably a configuration issue with sshd, then.
[02:07] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, in the command you listed, it would be the same account you are in
[02:08] <ladydoor> hey, does the alternate install cd require that you install gnome, kde, or xfce?
[02:08] <GoClick> If you need software for Windows that does checksums I highly recommend eXpress CheckSum Calculator from http://www.irnis.net/free.shtml
[02:08] <mangobot> ok
[02:08] <mangobot> thanks
[02:09] <Hor|zon> lol well the ubuntu alternate install cd would install gnome
[02:09] <Hor|zon> unless you chose server install
[02:09] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to stop the no-ip program?
[02:09] <Hor|zon> then it won't install any
[02:10] <ladydoor> Hor|zon: eh...it's just that i was thinking about perhaps installing edgy on my free partition to test it, and i was wondering whether i could install the wm of my choice without doing a server install
[02:10] <ladydoor> Hor|zon: aha. i've never done a server-install before
[02:10] <ladydoor> Hor|zon: so that should be interesting
[02:10] <Lard-O-Lad> the ubuntu live cd hangs after it gets to "Configuring Some Drivers".  After waiting, it gives my a segfault and says error 6.  Can someone help?
[02:11] <rhelmer> ladydoor: you can install whichever wm you wish
[02:11] <rhelmer> ladydoor: the {x,g,k}buntu just have different default packages
[02:11] <ladydoor> rhelmer: right...i just meant without installing any of the DEs.
[02:11] <rhelmer> ladydoor: ah, no :)
[02:11] <ladydoor> rhelmer: i've been using ubuntu for a while
[02:12] <ladydoor> rhelmer: i just find the DEs completely unusable, and so they just waste space :-(. oh well.
[02:12] <rhelmer> yeah
[02:12] <rhelmer> you can uninstall
[02:12] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, does it sun as a daemon or just a process?
[02:12] <PhilH> ^run
[02:12] <rhelmer> uninstalling all deps can be a pain.
[02:12] <SuperMiguel> i dont know :S
[02:12] <pepe> alguien que hable castellano
[02:12] <SuperMiguel> pepe yo hablo
[02:12] <quiet> okay, so network-manager pops up and looks to be working okay... it shows 4 available wireless networks... but refuses to connect to mine. however, a simple "iwconfig wlan0 essid <my_ssid> && dhclient wlan0" connect instantly and without problem.... any clue how to fix this?
[02:12] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, what was it called when you ran it?
[02:12] <SuperMiguel> #ubuntu-es
[02:12] <THX-1138> !ubuntu-es
[02:12] <ladydoor> rhelmer: yeah...also i don't want to start out in them in edgy
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <ladydoor> !es
[02:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:13] <ketsugi> what's the executable name for the gnome control center?
[02:13] <Hor|zon> lol apt-get just does things blindly and aptitude is a bit too enthusiastic...there are times when I despise the apt system
[02:13] <ladydoor> !ca
[02:13] <SuperMiguel> umm i put sudo no-ip
[02:13] <ubotu> Canadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca
[02:13] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, try sudo killall no-ip
[02:13] <qesnor> Hi!
[02:14] <qesnor> can someone help me with xubuntu please?
[02:14] <SurfnKid> Viva MeKZiko and Ubuntu
[02:14] <ladydoor> !xubuntu
[02:14] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <SuperMiguel> it said no process killed
[02:14] <SuperMiguel> ok
[02:14] <ladydoor> qesnor: there's a #xubuntu channel
[02:14] <inglor> hey, hey, I need some help
[02:14] <Lard-O-Lad> !ask
[02:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <inglor> I have a wireless laptop and the wireless switch is giving me issues
[02:14] <THX-1138> What type of problem are you having with xubuntu?
[02:14] <lostinc> how do you access a svn dir?
[02:14] <qesnor> do someone knows how to change user without closing session?
[02:14] <inglor> the hardware switch isn't working in linux
[02:15] <lupine_85> !subversion
[02:15] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[02:15] <quiet> THX-1138: <3   great movie.
[02:15] <thanksjack> how might I uninstall a package?
[02:15] <inglor> what?
[02:15] <thanksjack> like... gnome
[02:15] <inglor> anyonw knows?
[02:15] <THX-1138> Yes, you were the first to recognize the reference. - grin
[02:15] <eyequeue> qesnor, applications > system tools > run as different user
[02:15] <Lard-O-Lad> thanksjack: Synaptic is one way
[02:15] <Hor|zon> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <Hor|zon> and watch it fuck up your system
[02:16] <Hor|zon> woops
[02:16] <Hor|zon> language?
[02:16] <inglor> my laptop, an Asus works but the hardware wireless on/off switch does not
[02:16] <inglor> when I click fn+f2 it does nothing
[02:16] <inglor> the odd thing is that the off bit did work, it was on when I started installing, and I clicked fn+f2 and it turned it off
[02:16] <quiet> THX-1138: I know lot's about the movie...  were aware (if you're a NIN fan, if not, it doesn't matter) that the sound at the beginning of Mr Sefl-Destruct is a sample from that movie?
[02:16] <inglor> but now when I click fn+f2 it doesn't turn on
[02:16] <ladydoor> thanksjack: sudo aptitude remove packagename
[02:16] <georgy> inglor : watch in the bios for on
[02:16] <Lard-O-Lad> inglor: i think its a setting in your bios, for dells, you have to set it to hardware mode rather than operating system
[02:16] <THX-1138> inglor - xmodmap maybe to assign the button to a command?
[02:17] <PhilH> inglor, can you force it on in your bios?
[02:17] <inglor> I don't think there is a setting for the bios?
[02:17] <inglor> *in the bios
[02:17] <nixbox> hi all
[02:17] <btboudreaux> k
[02:17] <ladydoor> inglor: ok, install xev
[02:17] <THX-1138> quiet - Really? - I had no idea. - cool!
[02:17] <inglor> the only related setting I found was locking it which makes it be always off
[02:17] <inglor> what's xev?
[02:17] <evi|one> Hello. Do you know any undelete utility for ext3?
[02:17] <thanksjack> where would I find a list of packages I have installed?
[02:17] <gbrent_> anyone from Los Angeles here? I need some infor before I move there.
[02:17] <ladydoor> inglor: that way you can find out what keycode it produces, map it to a key with xmodmap, and then assign that key a command with xbindkeys
[02:18] <THX-1138> inglor it show the codes each keypress gives
[02:18] <inglor> nice, but how will that help me turn the wireless lan on, it's a hardware switch
[02:18] <quiet> THX-1138: yep... listen to the song, then watch the movie.. .it's when the bot-cop is beating the guy with the night stick... repeatedly.
 no I mean, i want to block my session, but if someone else wants to start their own, they just hace to put their name and password. Just as in windows xp
[02:18] <Lard-O-Lad> inglor: have you tried googling you laptop nam and version followed by linux, im sure someone has had this problem before
[02:18] <ladydoor> inglor: oh! nm. i don't know, sorry. on my laptop, the switch is automatically on when the kernel module is loaded...
[02:18] <eyequeue> qesnor, sorry, i don't get you
[02:18] <inglor> yeah, didn't work well
[02:19] <inglor> lemme copy the exact error, one second
[02:19] <blanky> hey guys
[02:19] <darkfox> hmmm i figured out that "exit" couldn't be found in the libc6 in /lib/tls/i686/cmov ... by moving this out of /lib i forced the sys to use the libc in /lib which stopped my error appearing ("exit" symbol not found)
[02:19] <Hor|zon> I tend to stay away from wireless on/off switches with linux
[02:19] <Hor|zon> >.>
[02:19] <blanky> hey guys to register a nick in irc, you do /nickserv register mypassword right?!
[02:19] <pepe_> cual me dijistis que era el ubuntu en castellano
[02:19] <ladydoor> !es
[02:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:19] <smoked1> Whats a good ftp client for ubuntu? There are quite a few that I found so far but what would you suggest using? My favorite on Winbloze is WS FTP
[02:19] <inglor> Please contact your system administrator to resolve the following problem:
[02:19] <inglor> SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device
[02:19] <Renan_s2> smoked1, gftp
[02:19] <micahcowan> qesnor, I think you want "Lock Screen" (ctrl-alt-L)
[02:19] <flukej-walker> its /msg nickserv register password
[02:19] <quiet> smoked1: gftp
[02:19] <georgy> smoked1 : gftp
[02:19] <Lard-O-Lad> smoked1: Ubuntu has an ftp client
[02:19] <PhilH> qesnor, you want to lock your X session and log in another user?
[02:19] <smoked1> gftp it is. Thanks a bunch
[02:19] <micahcowan> gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver give you "New Session" options.
[02:20] <smoked1> I dint like the stock client
[02:20] <arcasa> Anyone know how to get TIbia working?
[02:20] <thanksjack> how do I know what packages I have installed?
[02:20] <hype> Hi , anyone can tell me how to get sound working using VMware server ? (WIndows Xp virtual machine)
[02:20] <maple1> how do I exec a .bin file?
I want to let my session started with amule for example, and when i'm not present, if my mother wants to go to it's own session, I want she just to have to
[02:20] <PhilH> qesnor, are you using gnome?
[02:20] <inglor> anyone knows what that error means?
[02:20] <qesnor> no, xfce
[02:20] <inglor> most of the other keys work, the  brightness audio volume and such
[02:20] <decherdt> anyone else get their menu.lst hosed by the -26 update?
[02:20] <PhilH> qesnor, do you have gdmflexiserver installed?
[02:20] <qesnor> i think it a sort of lockscreen yes
[02:20] <inglor> lemme try with the bios once again
[02:20] <arcasa> arcasa@Alchemy:~$ wine Tibia.exe engine 0
[02:20] <arcasa> err:module:import_dll Library GLU32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\Tibia.exe") not found
[02:20] <arcasa> err:module:import_dll Library OPENGL32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\Tibia.exe") not found
[02:20] <arcasa> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\system32\\Tibia.exe" failed, status c0000135
[02:20] <arcasa> arcasa@Alchemy:~$
[02:21] <maple1> how do I exec a .bin file?
[02:21] <arcasa> I NEED TIBIA!
[02:21] <georgy> !pastebin
[02:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:21] <qesnor> NO
[02:21] <qesnor> (no)
[02:21] <flukej-walker> maple1: click it
[02:21] <PhilH> maple1, type ./filename.bin
[02:21] <lord_epsylon> hi there
[02:21] <maple1> I did that and it didn't work
[02:21] <inglor> ok, I'm in my bios, now what do I do?
[02:22] <lord_epsylon> i have an image of an error... can someone see please, i need an opinion..rkxs...
[02:22] <Lard-O-Lad> when i try to run the live cd/install, it gets to Configuring Some Drivers, and segfaults.  How can i resolve this problem?
[02:22] <maple1> root@ubuntu:/home/maple# ./x11drv_fbconfig_fix-0001.bin
[02:22] <maple1> bash: ./x11drv_fbconfig_fix-0001.bin: Permission denied
[02:22] <maple1> ?
[02:22] <inglor> I found "Wireless network interface" set to "UNLOCKED", I can set it to locked but it says "If locked wireless LAN will be disabled", no help huh?
[02:22] <qesnor> So how could i do in xubuntu with xfce? lock screen and another user to start it session?
[02:22] <flukej-walker> maple1: sudo it
[02:22] <PhilH> maple1 maybe sudo it
[02:22] <maple1> I did
[02:22] <maple1> I got "command not found"
[02:23] <maple1> but I'm in root and it says "permission denied"
[02:23] <eyequeue> qesnor, when you click on "quit" do you get "switch user"?  it locks your session requiring your password to get back in
[02:23] <lord_epsylon> sorry...i need and opinion about www.iframe06.net/imagenes/sheel.png
[02:23] <Lard-O-Lad> lord_epsylon: 404
[02:23] <qesnor> no, i just hace log out hibernate  ...
[02:23] <inglor> any help :(?
[02:23] <PhilH> maple1, it needs to be set executable
[02:23] <lord_epsylon> sorry...i need and opinion about www.iframe06.net/imagenes/shell.png
[02:24] <Lard-O-Lad> lord_epsylon: oh god!
[02:24] <lord_epsylon> Lard-0-Lad sorry i put a bad link, try again
[02:24] <lord_epsylon> :)
[02:24] <inglor> help? anyone?
no
[02:25] <eyequeue> qesnor, perhaps #xubuntu would have a non-ubuntu(gnome) answer?
[02:25] <inglor> :/ anyone? help?
[02:25] <Lard-O-Lad> lord_epsylon: try holding Ctrl-Alt-F1, it will take you to one of the main consoles
[02:25] <PhilH> qesnor, did that command work?
[02:25] <PhilH> gdmflexiserver
[02:25] <lord_epsylon> Lard-0-Lad what class of code is this???
[02:25] <THX-1138> you can get back with ctrl alt f7
[02:26] <inglor> anyone :O? please? I don't want to have to switch back to windows over this
[02:26] <qesnor> PhilH which one?
[02:26] <georgy> inglor : maybe disable switch in bios
[02:26] <SurfnKid> inglor, dont switch at all stay in linux
[02:26] <PhilH> qesnor, gdmflexiserver
[02:26] <THX-1138> inglor - xmodmap Okay?
[02:26] <inglor> I want to stay on linux but I have to get this to work
[02:26] <inglor> xmodmap what?
[02:26] <lord_epsylon> room: What class of code is thist??? www.iframe06.net/imagenes/shell.png
[02:26] <inglor> how will that help me?
[02:27] <THX-1138> !xmodmap
[02:27] <qesnor> PhilH no
[02:27] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[02:27] <inglor> and how would that help me?
[02:27] <qesnor> join #xubuntu
[02:27] <georgy> georgy : disable switch wifi always on ?
[02:27] <THX-1138> uhoh - give me a second to find the howto.
[02:27] <inglor> the only option I have is to have it CONSTANTLY off
[02:27] <inglor> which doesn't help me
[02:27] <PhilH> maple1, it needs to be set executable, use chmod o+x filename.bin
[02:27] <Lard-O-Lad> lord_epsylon: it isnt really code, its just an OS thing
[02:28] <inglor> what's 'Easy Flash'
[02:28] <maple1> apparently it wasn't meant to be executed
[02:28] <lord_epsylon> jajajaja
[02:28] <Renan_s2> lord_epsylon, type "reset"
[02:28] <maple1> I got it to execute but it was just a bunch of errors
[02:28] <lord_epsylon> nono, i not want to repair
[02:28] <Renan_s2> looks like the font is screwed up
[02:28] <lord_epsylon> i can put my SO in this mode
[02:28] <lord_epsylon> when i want
[02:28] <lord_epsylon> undestand me???
[02:28] <Renan_s2> yes
[02:29] <lord_epsylon> what class of code is?
[02:29] <lord_epsylon> ??
[02:29] <THX-1138> inglor - the link on configuring a keyboard or mouse will give you the path to assigning that key.
[02:29] <aSt3raL> whats with the kernel update?  did anyone else get that today?
[02:29] <THX-1138> !mouse
[02:29] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[02:29] <THX-1138> !keyboard
[02:29] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:29] <Lard-O-Lad> lord_epsylon: try doing a dir listing in the Ctrl-Alt-F1, see if you get the screwed up font
[02:29] <lord_epsylon> sorry for me englihs
[02:29] <lord_epsylon> what is screwd up font?
[02:29] <inglor> and what do I assign the key to? it's a hardware switch
[02:30] <PhilH> inglor, the bios config wont allow it to on by default?
[02:30] <sethk> lord_epsylon, he means unreadable
[02:30] <sethk> lord_epsylon, scrambled
[02:30] <sethk> lord_epsylon, noisy
[02:30] <lord_epsylon> nono
[02:30] <inglor> no, I can't find it
[02:30] <lord_epsylon> i can read it
[02:30] <lord_epsylon> i have a translator
[02:30] <inglor> the only thing I found is disabling the wifi completely
[02:30] <sethk> lord_epsylon, I'm just interpreting  :)
[02:30] <Lard-O-Lad> sethk: thank you :)
[02:31] <exs> Could someone help me downloading a whole website using wget?
[02:31] <Lard-O-Lad> exs: google is your friend
[02:31] <SuperM> any one know how to use putty
[02:31] <exs> Lard-O-Lad:  google isn't helping
[02:31] <Lard-O-Lad> exs: man wget
[02:31] <exs> wget what??..
[02:31] <georgy> SuperM : why ?
[02:31] <kitche> SuperM: yes it's sorta explains itself
[02:31] <lord_epsylon> lard-0-lad any opinion??
[02:31] <ladydoor> aSt3raL: what's the problem with it?
[02:32] <ladydoor> aSt3raL: does it screw stuff up?
[02:32] <PhilH> qesnor, got any help?
[02:32] <aSt3raL> no
[02:32] <THX-1138> inglor - each key gives a hexadecimal code to the operating system once you have that hex code it can be easily assigned to any command or button device you like. nifty eh?
[02:32] <sethk> lord_epsylon, as for your original question...
[02:32] <Lard-O-Lad> lord_epsylon: maybe some font package scewed up your X
[02:32] <aSt3raL> well its installing now
[02:32] <theCore> anyone bored here?
[02:32] <aSt3raL> so maybe :p
[02:32] <decherdt> aSt3ral: it overwrote my menu.lst, but left out the initrd line, gave me a kernel panic till i fixed it
[02:32] <lord_epsylon> maybe a rootkit?
[02:32] <sethk> lord_epsylon, those are characters with codes > 127, in a terminal not expecting them
[02:32] <PhilH> theCore, quite possibly, why?
[02:32] <aSt3raL> decherdt:  haha
[02:32] <qesnor> PhilH no
[02:33] <sethk> lord_epsylon, I'm not sure it's quite random
[02:33] <nixbox> hey i am tryin to use minicom to connect to cisco 2000 wlan controller, i have set bps to 9600 and turned off hardware flow control, but still i cant connect, do you know whats the problem?
[02:33] <lord_epsylon> sethk random??
[02:33] <inglor> hmmm
[02:33] <inglor> anyone?
[02:33] <sethk> lord_epsylon, there are very few normal letters.  were it random, I'd expect half and half
[02:33] <PhilH> qesnor, do you have the gdm package installed?
[02:33] <lord_epsylon> sethk i can translate the caracteres to legible
[02:33] <sethk> lord_epsylon, ok, how?
[02:33] <lord_epsylon> i am cryptografer
[02:33] <qesnor> no, i just want xfce, not gnome
[02:33] <theCore> PhilH, I'm running a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia in 5 min, so I'm searching for participates
[02:33] <lord_epsylon> this is my new invent
[02:33] <sethk> lord_epsylon, ok, you mean that's encrypted data.
[02:33] <PhilH> thecore, what kind of quiz?
[02:33] <lord_epsylon> but i need some opinions
[02:33] <qesnor> PhilH no, i just want xfce, not gnome
[02:34] <aSt3raL> is there a way to have the mount options based on the wireless network you are connected to?
[02:34] <sethk> lord_epsylon, opinions from people looking at that are worthless
[02:34] <inglor> fuck it :P I'm using a windows live cd to turn it on
[02:34] <theCore> PhilH, ubuntu/linux/programming/etc
[02:34] <PhilH> qesnor, oh well
[02:34] <lord_epsylon> not
[02:34] <Lard-O-Lad> lord_epsylon: i thought your linux was screwed up...
[02:34] <sethk> lord_epsylon, if you are serious, you would have to do a statistical analysis on the frequency of occurance of each visible symbol
[02:34] <PhilH> theCore, hmmm, not really _that_ bored, sorry
[02:34] <sethk> although the cat does add a nice touch.
[02:34] <kitche> those symbol's are utf8
[02:34] <aSt3raL> like instead of mounting on startup i want it to mount on wifi connection
[02:34] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to use putty as a gui
[02:34] <SuperMiguel> with gui*
[02:34] <theCore> PhilH, hehe, ok then
[02:34] <lord_epsylon> not, my linux is ok, but i rare for me this class of change of the shell
[02:34] <aSt3raL> any thoughts?
[02:35] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: ...what?
[02:35] <kitche> SuperMiguel: putty is a gui program
[02:35] <lord_epsylon> imagine if you hack a computer, and all files
[02:35] <chopchop_> hi, what does it mean when i try modprobe something and it says Device or resource busy, does it mean the module is already loaded??
[02:35] <PhilH> theCore, have you heard of Software Freedom Day?
[02:35] <lord_epsylon> are this class of symbols
[02:35] <sethk> kitche, well, that's not quite right.  it's true that the terminal is displaying the codes using that character set, but so what?
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> how do i make it to look like remote desktop
[02:35] <lord_epsylon> image it?
[02:35] <micahcowan> lord_epsylon, if you're really interested in writing someting good, you should submit it to the USENET crypto groups, or other crypto forums where professionals reside. Writing a /remotely/ secure algorithm is insanely difficult. And, it's all offtopic here...
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> like with x11
[02:35] <Lard-O-Lad> SuperMiguel: maybe you are talking about VNC
[02:35] <qesnor> PhilH the problem is, i manage to block my screen with screensaver, i can change user closing my session, but i can't change user with mine open
[02:35] <theCore> PhilH, nope
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> what is x11?
[02:35] <sethk> lord_epsylon, you totally underestimate the sophistication of people who crack codes
[02:35] <kitche> SuperMiguel: you can't
[02:35] <theCore> PhilH, is it today?
[02:35] <sethk> lord_epsylon, you need to do a lot more reading.
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> there is no way?
[02:35] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: putty doesn't do that
[02:35] <ladydoor> SuperMiguel: it's the program that gives you graphics
[02:35] <Lard-O-Lad> SuperMiguel: cygwin can
[02:36] <georgy> SuperMiguel : putty can't do that
[02:36] <lord_epsylon> micahcowan this is the answer i am searching... what name of forum?
[02:36] <PhilH> theCore, yeah, check out http://www.softwarefreedomday.org and add a reference to it in your quiz ;)
[02:36] <kitche> SuperMiguel; it can do xorg forwarding but what you want it can't do that
[02:36] <SuperMiguel> does cygwin work with ssh?
[02:36] <lord_epsylon> sethk please...decrypt one file :)
[02:36] <Agrajag> You can enable a VNC server in gnome, and use a VNC client to access your desktop remotely
[02:36] <sethk> lord_epsylon, why?
[02:36] <Agrajag> there is openssh for cygwin, yes
[02:36] <lord_epsylon> about what i need to read?
[02:36] <SuperMiguel> but is not secure?
[02:37] <micahcowan> lord_epsylon, sci.crypt, but do not REPEAT do not post anything there without lurking for a while and reading the FAQ, enough to get a feel for things.
[02:37] <Over_There> how to i allow gui's over ssh? it keeps saying X11 regected wrong authentication
[02:37] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: ssh stands for Secure SHell.
[02:37] <creature> OK, I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Releases?action=show&redirect=XubuntuReleases. I want the desktop CD for a standard installable Xubuntu, right?
[02:37] <THX-1138> !ssh
[02:37] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:37] <PhilH> SuperMiguel try http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=putty+vnc+ssh&btnG=Search&meta=
[02:37] <kitche> Over_There you using freenx? or no
[02:37] <lord_epsylon> micahcowan take a tea, and respect...
[02:37] <lord_epsylon> ;)
[02:37] <Over_There> no just ssh
[02:37] <micahcowan> ?
[02:37] <tich> i have a .DAA video file that i can't open with any of my players (xfmedia, mplayer, totem) how would i open it?
[02:37] <kitche> Over_There it can't
[02:37] <kitche> Over_There you need freenx to do what you want
[02:38] <Over_There> i dont need the entire desktop, just the gui
[02:38] <Lard-O-Lad> tich: filext.com, look it up
[02:38] <Agrajag> Over_There: ssh -X user@host
[02:38] <THX-1138> tich - can you transcode it using mencoder - (yeah not much help i know)
[02:38] <kitche> Over_There ah ok X forwarding
[02:38] <Agrajag> Over_There: you need to be running an X server on the machine you are sitting at
[02:38] <PhilH> kitche, can't he use VNC over SSH?
[02:38] <Over_There> ya use the ssh -X but it keeps rejecting the authentication
[02:38] <kitche> PhilH: that's freenx pretty much :)
[02:38] <Over_There> ya i am on my laptop trying to run the firestarter gui on the server
[02:39] <tich> thx-1138, what is mencoder?
[02:39] <PhilH> kitche only it uses ssh and vnc instead of freenx...
[02:39] <SuperMiguel> phillh there is any program that i dont have to install it?
[02:39] <kitche> PhilH: can't sue vnc over ssh
[02:39] <SuperMiguel> and will do a desktop recognition
[02:39] <kitche> use*
[02:39] <Agrajag> kitche: like hell you can't
[02:39] <chopchop_> hi, what does it mean when i try modprobe something and it says Device or resource busy, does it mean the module is already loaded??
[02:39] <THX-1138> lol - what is *.daa i don't see a reference? where do i find a sample?
[02:39] <Agrajag> kitche: at work I use PuTTY to set up an SSH tunnel to home, and run VNC over that tunnel
[02:40] <aSt3raL> chopchop_: try lsmod
[02:40] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, what do you mean?
[02:40] <Agrajag> kitche: you can run ANY TCP-based protocol over SSH.
[02:40] <kitche> Agrajag: that's not what we are talking about
[02:40] <aSt3raL> chopchop_: modprobe loads a module
[02:40] <slight> i'm going through hell trying to get vsync working on a tft monitor (dvi). x claims it's putting out 60hz, the pane thinks it's 59.9 .. can anyone help?
[02:40] <PhilH> Agrajag, SuperMiguel needs your help, that's exactly what we're talking about
[02:40] <exs> If I'm trying to download a website with wget I type in "wget -r -l0 http://example.com/"... First, is this correct?.. second, will this follow external links?.. I want it to only  download stuff from www.example.com and any sub dir's.
[02:40] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: i tried modprobe lirc_serial
[02:41] <PhilH> kitche, that's exactly what we are talking about with SuperMiguel at least
[02:41] <kitche> well vnc will show the whoel desktop which he doesn't want PhilH
[02:41] <THX-1138> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencoder
[02:41] <aSt3raL> chopchop_: lsmod will list all the loaded modules
[02:41] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: and lsmod |grep lirc gives me lirc_dev
[02:41] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: is that right??
[02:41] <Over_There> so does anyone know what file i need to edit to set up the X11 authentication properly?
[02:41] <ladydoor> hey, speaking of ssh, how do i create a private key for my computer?
[02:42] <PhilH> kitche, what does SuperMiguel want to do?
[02:42] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: i got lirc_dev.ko  lirc_serial.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/
[02:42] <kitche> PhilH: just to X forward programs
[02:42] <SuperMiguel> you know putty
[02:42] <SuperMiguel> that is a .exe program that you dont have to install it
[02:42] <aSt3raL> chopchop_: that sounds like something different to me.. all the -dev are development libraries afaik
[02:42] <FoXyLiOn> hi@all :)
[02:42] <kitche> SuperMiguel: putty also has a linux port
[02:42] <SuperMiguel> i need something like that that will use x11 but i wont have to spend 3 hours installing it
[02:42] <Agrajag> who would use putty for linux?
[02:43] <aSt3raL> chopchop_: did you try modprobe lirc_serial.ko
[02:43] <SuperMiguel> but i want a graphical interface
[02:43] <tich> thx-1138, good old wikipedia. thanks.
[02:43] <SuperMiguel> not a text base one
[02:43] <kitche> Agrajag: a lot of people do
[02:43] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: unfortunately the only free X server for windows that I know of is cygwin
[02:43] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: Module lirc_serial.ko not found
[02:43] <THX-1138> np - What is a *.daa file? where can i find one?
[02:43] <Agrajag> kitche: why?
[02:43] <FoXyLiOn> i have first time in my live installed a linux distrtibution, now i have the first problem, how can i start / install the gnome desktop?
[02:43] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: can i stop lirc_dev??
[02:44] <aSt3raL> chopchop_: do you have the correct path?
[02:44] <SuperMiguel> how do i use cygwin?
[02:44] <SuperMiguel> i stared
[02:44] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, head over to #sfd-flyingmonkeys
[02:44] <SuperMiguel> what do i have to write on it?
[02:44] <Marsmensch> !pastebin
[02:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:44] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: yes, think so
[02:44] <kitche> Agrajag: it's uses a gui easier to use if you have multiple servers you connect to
[02:44] <georgy> FoxyLio : do you have a login screen ?
[02:44] <kitche> Agrajag: without retyping the address each time
[02:44] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: first, you need to get the setup.exe for cygwin.com
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> Hi, something really weird is going on. Something is screwing up my firefox settings (viewed under about:config) It keeps turning off my prompts for secure connections, and keeps changing my useragent to googlebot (which hinders my ability to browse some sites which know it as a way hackers can get into their websites)
[02:44] <chopchop_> aSt3raL: i got lirc_dev.ko  lirc_serial.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> any Ideas?
[02:44] <SuperMiguel> i did
[02:44] <Agrajag> kitche: oh hell, I just set u pscripts and keys
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> is this a virus?
[02:44] <SuperMiguel> and i installed
[02:44] <medic30420> SuperMiguel: what about using your liveCD on the windows machine, open up the terminal and type in vncviewer {hostname}
[02:44] <thanksjack> would I be able to acquire an mp3 decoder?
[02:45] <FoXy> georgy: yes
[02:45] <thanksjack> for linux...
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> I didn't think that was possible for linux
[02:45] <FoXy> but nothing esle xD
[02:45] <Agrajag> kitche: if I want to go to my web server, I open a terminal and type "habafrop"
[02:45] <Agrajag> and bammo
[02:45] <SuperMiguel> but know is like a dos screen
[02:45] <georgy> foxy : what's happen when you logged?
[02:45] <Agrajag> <3 linux server hacks, vol. 1
[02:45] <SuperMiguel> now*
[02:45] <FoXy> a console
[02:45] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: you need to install the X server
[02:45] <PhilH> SuperMiguel, join #sfd-flyingmonkeys
[02:45] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: please don't refer to a command line a sDOS :(
[02:45] <FoXy> is it possible that i have to install the desktop ubuntu version ?
[02:46] <PhilH> Agrajag, it is _like_ a dos screen
[02:46] <georgy> foxy : possible
[02:46] <Agrajag> :(
[02:46] <thanksjack> i tried to chown in dos once... and I died a little inside
[02:46] <georgy> georgy : can you choose a session ?
[02:46] <SuperMiguel> how do i install x server
[02:46] <Megaqwerty> Hi, something really weird is going on. Something is screwing up my firefox settings (viewed under about:config) It keeps turning off my prompts for secure connections, and keeps changing my useragent to googlebot (which hinders my ability to browse some sites which know it as a way hackers can get into their websites) any ideas?
[02:46] <FoXy> georgy: is it than eayser and i can directally start with the gnome desktop?
[02:47] <THX-1138> FoXy - I missed your question but if you need to install ubuntu gnome desktop after installing the server version sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop will give you gnome
[02:47] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: run setup.exe again and install the xorg packages
[02:47] <kitche> Megaqwerty: you can fix it easy just reverse whatever you did to firefox
[02:47] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.html
[02:47] <georgy> foxy : in session you have normally all desktop installed
[02:47] <Megaqwerty> kitche: I don't know what I did. I don't think I did anything
[02:47] <Megaqwerty> (but i can repair it)
[02:47] <Agrajag> SuperMiguel: that will tell you just about everything you need to know
[02:47] <FoXy> georgy: and how can i start them? (noob ;)
[02:47] <Megaqwerty> it just keeps cropping up
[02:47] <medic30420> Megaqwerty: and after you reverse it go to the settings file for firefox and restrict permissions, also look at you system logs
[02:48] <THX-1138> !info ubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.120 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[02:48] <exs> Is there an application for linux where I am able to download full websites?.. I've heard wget is bad at doing this
[02:48] <kitche> Megaqwerty: I know that trick with Googlebot it was done by Irongeek
[02:48] <kitche> exs: httrack
[02:48] <georgy> foxy : in the login screen you must have a button with session ?
[02:48] <Megaqwerty> kitche: It wasn't started by him though, I've studied pen testing.
[02:48] <FoXy> georgy: it is just like the dos console on windows
[02:49] <Megaqwerty> medic30420: how do I restrict permissions, or view sys logs?
[02:49] <Elektrochelovek> hi. I have a problam here. I changed my /etc/apt/sources.list dapper->edgy. Ran apt-get dist-upgrade. Got broken xorg windows server. Now i'm unable 2 boot my Gnome;// The error message I get is that there is no /etc/X11?
[02:49] <kitche> FoXy: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want gnome
[02:49] <exs> kitche:  thanks a lot
[02:49] <georgy> foxy : login in, and try startx
[02:49] <mluser-work> Anyone know how I can install mplayer on ubuntu?
[02:50] <thanksjack> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:50] <inglor> the wireless switch isn't working in a windows liveCD either :(
[02:50] <Elektrochelovek> mluser-work: apt-get install mplayer
[02:50] <inglor> now wireless works but I can't get it to work
[02:50] <slight> mluser-work, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:50] <inglor> absurd >: (
[02:50] <mluser-work> thanks
[02:50] <ladydoor> how d'you set up a private key for your computer (for safer remote logins)?
[02:50] <thanksjack> :) np
[02:50] <PhilH> mluser-work , apt-get install mplayer-archtype
[02:50] <inglor> any idea ?
[02:50] <ladydoor> !mplayer
[02:50] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[02:50] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[02:50] <Agrajag> ladydoor: http://www.ece.uci.edu/~chou/ssh-key.html follow the steps for SSH v2
[02:51] <Megaqwerty>  medic30420: how do I do that?
[02:51] <ladydoor> Agrajag: thanks muchly! i'm only just starting to learn about ssh, but i think it'll be very useful to me.
[02:51] <slight> i'm going through hell trying to get vsync working on a tft monitor (dvi). x claims it's putting out 60hz, the pane thinks it's 59.9 .. can anyone help?
[02:51] <Agrajag> ladydoor: if you like that, I knwo of some good hack to work with that
[02:51] <Agrajag> hacks
[02:52] <demio> hello
[02:52] <ladydoor> Agrajag: oh yeah?
[02:52] <demio> does anyone here know a good SFTP client?
[02:52] <demio> for linux that is
[02:52] <demio> and not gftp
[02:52] <slight> ssh
[02:52] <Agrajag> like I said, all I have to do to go to my web server is run "habafrop". that run s a script which looks at the name which it's being called and SSHes to that computer. if I have keys set up, I need no password.
[02:53] <Agrajag> And if I just want to run a single command on habafrop, I can run "habafrop uptime"
[02:53] <PhilH> demio, filezilla?
[02:53] <picture> hi everyone
[02:53] <demio> does it support sftp?
[02:53] <PhilH> demio, to be honest i'm not sure if the new version supports sftp but it's worth checking
[02:53] <Agrajag> it'll go to the webserver, run the command, spit out the output, and leave me onthe same system
[02:53] <medic30420> Megaqwerty: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/edit#user
[02:53] <thanksjack> any reason why xmms might not open my mp3?
[02:53] <PhilH> demio, the old windows version did
[02:53] <ladydoor> Agrajag: ah, but the thing is i'll be using puTTy on computers that clean up after users every time they log out
[02:53] <slight> demio, sftp ;)
[02:53] <slight> sorry i'll be off
[02:53] <PhilH> slight, heh, indeed
[02:53] <Agrajag> oh, wlel it's no good with putty then
[02:54] <demio> slight, i need something with a graphical interface hehe
[02:54] <medic30420> Megaqwerty: make sure you shut down firefox/mozilla before editing the actual file
[02:54] <Agrajag> this is unix-like to unix-like
[02:54] <demio> Im a web developer and I need to send files all the time
[02:54] <slight> sorry i wa being a pain
[02:54] <PhilH> demio, what's wrong with gftp?
[02:54] <slight> only gui sftp client i've used is winscp
[02:54] <slight> but that's windows
[02:54] <lostinc> Is anyone good with debian based systems? I need to be able to select all recommended packages for install that are associated with Bluefish
[02:54] <medic30420> Megaqwerty: about:config will let you return all settings to default
[02:54] <ladydoor> Agrajag: yeah...thanks anyway. now if only i could figure out how to switch control & caps on the horrid windows computers i'll have to use
[02:54] <inglor> hey
[02:54] <inglor> it does give me a radio off
[02:54] <inglor> when I put lshw
[02:55] <inglor> *typed
[02:55] <Agrajag> I'm sure there's a keymap change you can make
[02:55] <inglor> how do I change what it says under configuration
[02:55] <demio> well
[02:55] <demio> i just dont like it
[02:55] <Megaqwerty>  medic30420: I knew that part, but thanks
[02:55] <inglor> I don't even need a keymap change, I want to try to get it to change once
[02:55] <demio> it uploads the files with their chmods the same as they are in my pc
[02:55] <inglor> once I do that, I'll just write a script and put a shortcut to it on the desktop
[02:55] <demio> and i dont want that
[02:55] <inglor> I need to change the configuration, how?
[02:55] <inglor> right now it says radio: off
[02:55] <demio> and with the same user as "owner"
[02:56] <inglor> it says
[02:56] <bryanl> i am going to enable the built in raid on my dell dimension 9150.  i wonder how much faster it will be?
[02:56] <ladydoor> Agrajag: yeah...i'm just not familiar with windows and don't have admin privileges on them
[02:56] <Agrajag> oh, no admin privs means no keymap changes most likely
[02:56] <ladydoor> Agrajag: :-(
[02:56] <inglor> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ipw2200 multicast=yes wireless=radio off
[02:56] <inglor> I want to turn the radio on
[02:56] <PhilH> demio, uncheck preserve file permisions?
[02:56] <inglor> how?
[02:56] <demio> hmmmmm
[02:56] <blueuu23> :-*
[02:56] <demio> interesting
[02:56] <medic30420> Megaqwerty then /etc/firefox is the settings and program folder which you can right click (scripts...root-natulis here) and right click folder, go to permisions and change groups/ownership or # sudo chmod 700 /etc/firefox
[02:57] <demio> :P
[02:57] <ladydoor> Agrajag: i don't know if i could use screen & emacs then...i'll be hitting caps all the time. craaap. oh well
[02:57] <mutk> demio, This is useful  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
[02:57] <Agrajag> especially with the control key, come to think of it, since ctrl-alt-delete is so magical to windows
[02:57] <inglor> it's the output of lshw btw
[02:57] <Agrajag> maybe you could change emacs's mapping?
[02:57] <inglor> anyone :( please :(?
[02:57] <inglor> it really means a lot to me
[02:57] <ladydoor> Agrajag: aha, but i use it on mine too. lol
[02:57] <Agrajag> just while you're using it from windows
[02:57] <ladydoor> aha
[02:57] <inglor> what?
[02:57] <demio> ooo
[02:57] <inglor> please :/ I need help with the wireless, how do I turn the radio on
[02:57] <medic30420> Megaqwerty: just be prepared to #sudo apt-get remove firefox --- then #sudo apt-get install firefox  if something goes wrong
[02:58] <Agrajag> have a little elisp scriptt hat changes whatever you need to change, and run that when you have to run it from windows
[02:58] <demio> that will make administrating my server 10x easier :O
[02:58] <demio> hmmmm
[02:58] <Agrajag> and maybe set it up so you can do M-x windows-mode or something
[02:58] <THX-1138> inglor - can you start and stop radio with sudo /etc/ini.d/radio stop   or  start?    - if so map that command in a script  xmodmap will hellp you
[02:58] <inglor> it says configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ipw2200 multicast=yes wireless=radio off
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> alright, I think I'll just do that, it should be easier
[02:58] <PhilH> demio, i think nautilus can log in to ssg
[02:58] <mutk> demio, It works quite well BTW..
[02:58] <PhilH> demio, or ssh even
[02:58] <Agrajag> (I have no idea if any of that is actually possible)
[02:58] <demio> hmm
[02:58] <inglor> hmm, starting it with sudo
[02:58] <demio> how would i do that?
[02:58] <inglor> how would I do that
[02:58] <demio> i tried ssh://
[02:58] <THX-1138> i don't use wifi gigabit ethernet ftw
[02:58] <ladydoor> Agrajag: good idea...i think it may well be. now if only it would work w/screen. hmmmm
[02:59] <inglor> radio command not found
[02:59] <ladydoor> Agrajag: anyway, thanks for your help
[02:59] <PhilH> demio, connect to server from the places menu
[02:59] <inglor> etc/ini.d/radio: command not found
[02:59] <Agrajag> np
[03:00] <demio> Nautilus cannot display "ssh://..../".
[03:00] <creature> OK, I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Releases?action=show&redirect=XubuntuReleases. I want the desktop CD for a standard installable Xubuntu, right?
[03:00] <demio> it asks for the password
[03:00] <Renan_s2> !xgl
[03:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:00] <THX-1138> xmodmap and a script bound to that keypress all you need from someone is the command to turn on/off radio from the command line.
[03:00] <james296> Is it possible to be able to copy something, and have whatever it is you copy ALWAYS in the clipboard or whatever it is in Ubuntu so I can just continuously copy and paste? cuz I noticed it eventually dissappears
[03:01] <georgy> creature : right
[03:01] <creature> georgy: Thanks very much.
[03:01] <inglor> ok,but how do I on/off radio from the command line in the first place
[03:01] <inglor> I can't on/off it , that's the problem, not the shortcut
[03:01] <inglor> how do I turn it on/off?
[03:01] <lostinc> is there a command line way to use apt to install all recommended packages for bluefish?
[03:01] <THX-1138> inglor - someone here knows/ alas not me. - helped where i could
[03:01] <demio> i think the problem is with my server
[03:01] <inglor> thanks
[03:02] <georgy> creature : then apt-get install xubntu-desktop
[03:02] <demio> i get a bunch of errors in auth.log when i try to access it with nautilus
[03:02] <creature> Whoa, georgy! I need to install it straight off the CD.
[03:02] <creature> No web access when I do the base install.
[03:02] <georgy> creature : install the cd, then xubuntu
[03:02] <demio> error:subsystem: cannot stat  /exec/libexec/sftp-server
[03:02] <demio> thats what my server says in auth.log
[03:03] <james296> well?
[03:03] <creature> georgy: Ah, boot off the CD like a live CD, then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[03:03] <demio> but I can access with WinSCP
[03:03] <inglor> anyone? how do I turn wireless radio on/off?
[03:04] <georgy> creature : no, install cd normally, when install finish, you have to install xubuntu
[03:04] <kitche> inglor do you mean for your card?
[03:04] <inglor> what?
[03:04] <Hor|zon> anyone know any good wiki software?
[03:04] <CaraCarogna> why i'm not able to mount my 230Gb ntfs disk on ubuntu?
[03:04] <inglor> I mean my wireless card
[03:04] <creature> georgy: And it won't need to use the internet for the apt-get ?
[03:04] <Hor|zon> general purpose wiki software mind you
[03:04] <inglor> it's set to wireless=radio off
[03:04] <georgy> creature : i think you need it
[03:05] <medic30420> georgy, creature, if you sudo gedit /etc/apt/souces.list you will find an entry for the cd
[03:05] <medic30420> therefore you do not have to be on the internet
[03:05] <creature> And does it have this magic xubuntu-desktop package on the CD?
[03:06] <medic30420> but that may not apply to all of the DVD, CD, and alternative CD
[03:06] <inglor> anyone?
[03:06] <bsdfox> creature: xubuntu.com
[03:07] <medic30420> or join #xububtu
[03:07] <medic30420> join #xubuntu
[03:07] <demio> this is exactly what i get
[03:07] <demio> Sep 15 21:00:26 sp4518 sshd[31043] : subsystem request for sftp
[03:07] <demio> Sep 15 21:00:26 sp4518 sshd[31043] : error: subsystem: cannot stat /usr/libexec/sftp-server: No such file or directory
[03:07] <demio> Sep 15 21:00:26 sp4518 sshd[31043] : subsystem request for sftp failed, subsystem not found
[03:08] <cge> demio: Use scp instead of sftp?
[03:08] <THX-1138> inglor - i found this - no way here to try it for you.  :-/      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155980
[03:09] <demio> how do i do that with nautilus
[03:09] <Pelo> hey guys,  how do I get ascii codes in ubuntu ?
[03:10] <creature> man ascii ?
[03:10] <thanksjack> how do I change the default app for a file type in linux?
[03:10] <Pelo> as in  "alt-135" = 
[03:11] <PhilH> thanksjack, what is your desktop?
[03:11] <thanksjack> gnome
[03:11] <Pelo> thanksjack  rightclick on the file , properties,  last tab I think
[03:11] <georgy> medic30420 : you are right, xubuntu are on the xub
[03:11] <georgy> medic30420 : * on the cd
[03:11] <thanksjack> I think I broke it
[03:11] <PhilH> Pelo, penultimate tab i think
[03:11] <maswan> y
[03:11] <thanksjack> its acting like windows
[03:12] <alxandra_> hey people, is there any apt repository for sourceforge programmes??
[03:12] <Pelo> thanksjack  how do you mean ?
[03:12] <thanksjack> its ok now
[03:12] <thanksjack> :)
[03:12] <etzerd> Hi all
[03:12] <etzerd> ?
[03:12] <thanksjack> anyone know how to mount smb shares in fstab?
[03:12] <CyberScript32> ola, algum brasileiro na rea. Precisando de ajuda no Ubuntu...
[03:13] <eyequeue> !br
[03:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:13] <Derme23> e ai algum brasileiro?
[03:14] <etzerd> I love using Gnome, but my problem with it is the ICONS on the desktop are too bigs.The only way to resize them is using strech icons. Is there any other way like on KDE you can change the size let say to 48 or 32 as you wish in Gnome?
[03:14] <eyequeue> !br
[03:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:14] <eyequeue> !br > Derme23
[03:14] <alxandra_> hey people, is there any apt repository for sourceforge programmes?? if yes it will help me very much...
[03:15] <alxandra_> i cant find somethiong like that
[03:15] <jbroome> alxandra_: not that i know of
[03:15] <jim_> to
[03:15] <alxandra_> hmm ::::(
[03:15] <Pelo> alxandra_   repositories only work for ubuntu packages
[03:15] <eyequeue> alxandra_, most have not been debianized even
[03:15] <jordan> How do I change the resolution of virtual terminals?
[03:15] <alxandra_> youre right thanx
[03:15] <demio> people, does anyone know a graphical SCP interface?
[03:16] <rixth> I am having trouble understanding cron. I want to run "/usr/local/awstats/wwwroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -update -config=HipHopCrack" every 12 hours as root, but I am unsure of how.
[03:16] <demio> like winscp
[03:16] <etzerd> I love using Gnome, but my problem with it is the ICONS on the desktop are too bigs.The only way to resize them is using strech icons. Is there any other way like on KDE you can change the size let say to 48 or 32 as you wish in Gnome?
[03:17] <smoked1> Whats a good program for ubuntu to extract rar files? i am having a problem with a rar file right now.
[03:17] <ladydoor> !unrar
[03:17] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:17] <Pelo> smoked1  check in synaptic
[03:17] <jordan> With knoppix I have a higher resolution virtual terminal
[03:17] <smoked1> I searched for rar and many things came up
[03:18] <smoked1> Pelo: could you just suggest something please?
[03:18] <jordan> !info unrar-free
[03:18] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:19] <w30> jordan, you can pass a kernel option to the kernel on boot up in the form of vga=791 for example for a 1024x768 display
[03:19] <jordan> w30, How do I do that with LILO?
[03:19] <simtower> will the ubuntu boot screen still work right?
[03:20] <SillyZ> evening
[03:20] <Pelo> why do I find a fucking windows thread in each forum search i do,
[03:20] <Pelo> damit
[03:20] <jordan> simtower, That isn't a concern for me, it has never worked on this machine :)
[03:20] <THX-1138> the rar free version handles earlier rar files perfectly. - though the developer has changed the format and charges money for the most recent version
[03:20] <ryanakca> what is the most common application that newcommers install?
[03:21] <Pelo> ryanakca I would say a package that will allow you to play mp3
[03:21] <georgy> ryanakca : wine ?
[03:21] <creature> I'd say grub.
[03:21] <w30> jordan, edit /boot/brub/menu1st and put in the vga=791  after /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:22] <ryanakca> hmm... easy to install, I'm looking for an example package for tommorow's class
[03:22] <THX-1138> !restrictedformats
[03:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:22] <w30> jordan, or whatever your kernel is
[03:22] <creature> ryanakca: Gaim?
[03:22] <ryanakca> creature: ah, nice... but isn't it in ubuntu-destkop? if not, I'm taking it...
[03:22] <georgy> ryanacka : amsn, amule ?
[03:22] <jordan> w30, by /boot/brub/menu1st you mean boot/grub/menu1st?
[03:23] <w30> jordan, read man lilo for where to put the boot options
[03:23] <Derme23> how connect internet with modem chipset smartlink in Ubuntu dapper?
[03:23] <creature> ryanakca: No idea, but it'll be a good example.
[03:23] <inglor> shit
[03:23] <inglor> it's still not working
[03:23] <inglor> how do I turn wireless radio on
[03:23] <creature> If you don't mind losing your students to the web after they've got it working, of course.
[03:23] <inglor> in ubuntu
[03:23] <THX-1138> !lilo
[03:23] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[03:23] <inglor> of my eth1
[03:23] <THX-1138> ] agh
[03:24] <ryanakca> creature: it would be, but what's the point of installing an allready installed package, eh?
[03:24] <obf213> any geniouses in here
[03:24] <w30> jordan, just find a boot option and skip a space and put the vga bit in.
[03:24] <obf213> i need some help getting my computer to reboot
[03:24] <obf213> it doesnt restart anymore
[03:24] <inglor> type 'reboot'
[03:24] <jordan> w30, Then how do I update LILO?
[03:24] <obf213> inglor....
[03:24] <obf213> it will shut down, it wont reboot
[03:24] <creature> ryanakca: How about a game?
[03:24] <Renan_s2> !ltsp
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <obf213> i think the order of the shutdown got messed up
[03:24] <inglor> !wireless
[03:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <creature> Something like Chromium. No idea if it's already installed, but it's good.
[03:25] <jordan> w30, OR, how can I install GRUB on a macbook pro?
[03:25] <ryanakca> creature: hmm... I don't play any, but why not
[03:25] <obf213> it shuts down kdm, open usplash, then goes to will not halt. when i opened /etc/rc6.d/ i noticed that was  the order they were in there
[03:25] <jordan> w30, I actually prefer GRUB.
[03:25] <w30> jordan, it's been a while but I think you just run the lilo command as sudo or superuser
[03:25] <THX-1138> !yaboot
[03:25] <inglor> !asus
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yaboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <obf213> if i rearrage them wil lthat change the order or something
[03:25] <ryanakca> creature: I have a pile of them installed though, thanks
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <exs> Any wget profesionals here?
[03:26] <w30> jordan with grub it just reads the latest menu1st on reboot.
[03:26] <jordan> THX-1138, yaboot is for the older PPC macs.
[03:26] <obf213> man i need some help
[03:26] <THX-1138> Ok
[03:26] <obf213> my computer is shuttdown abnormall
[03:27] <w30> jordan, I don't know anything about macs, I can't afford one :=)
[03:27] <jordan> w30, niether can I, but I got it for free :)
[03:28] <exs> I'm trying to save every page+picture within 3dtotal.com using wget. I understand that the commands "-r -l0" are necessary, but I am unable to find out how to set the path for the downloaded files and to make the files available offline (so I can brwose them via firefox) If anyone could help, that would be fantastic.
[03:28] <jordan> w30, Otherwise I would have gone with something more Linux friendly.
[03:28] <THX-1138> Did this help?    http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/
[03:29] <w30> jordan, can you install Linux on an Intel Mac?
[03:29] <sizzam> when i plug in my iPod, RhythmBox automatically starts.   How can I make gtkpod start instead?
[03:30] <rixth> exs, try htrack for ripping siotes
[03:30] <maxkelley> sizzam: automagically :)
[03:30] <pilsun> switching from windows to ubuntu on my primary computer (800mhz pIII, 256m ram); never used ubuntu before. should I be using xubuntu instead for this old system?
[03:31] <jrib> sizzam: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[03:31] <kitche> pilsun: no that's a good system
[03:31] <maxkelley> pilsun: nope, it'll work nicely on that.
[03:31] <exs> rixth:  I installed that, and tried to, but it's taking a very long time even to pass the links..
[03:31] <pilsun> alright, excellent.
[03:31] <pilsun> thank you.
[03:31] <maxkelley> though xubuntu is nice.
[03:31] <sizzam> thanks jrib
[03:31] <maxkelley> it is a bit lighter, may run slightly faster.
[03:32] <maxkelley> plus, I like XFCE better, because it is less cluttered.
[03:32] <pilsun> is it significantly less functional?
[03:32] <maxkelley> no, not at all.
[03:32] <ryanakca> does anyone have the default sources.list?
[03:32] <jordan> w30, Yes I am running Ubuntu right now :)
[03:32] <georgy> jordan: do you need sommething special to install ?
[03:33] <w30> jordan, on an Intel? Mac?
[03:33] <jordan> THX-1138, Yes, in fact verry much so, it tells me how to get grub to work :)
[03:33] <timi> anybody good with ubuntu on this
[03:33] <timi> my computer shuts dow wierd
[03:33] <kitche> Intel mac is just Intel with the new bios that a lot of computers will have installed soon
[03:33] <jordan> georgy, Yes, you need to do a lot in fact, but there are many guides.
[03:33] <timi> its goes stopping kdm>usplash>then halts
[03:33] <georgy> jordan : thanks
[03:34] <THX-1138> grkpod setup http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[03:34] <w30> jordan, and you don't need a special distrobution like yellowdog for the Intel mac
[03:34] <THX-1138> gtkpod*
[03:34] <jordan> w30, yes, a macbook pro.
[03:34] <technel> Say I run a command: "ps aux | grep very_specific_process", how would I do a cool one-liner that would automatically send a kill -9 to all of the processes returned?
[03:34] <janina07> hi
[03:35] <janina07> hui
[03:35] <janina07> hi
[03:35] <ryanakca> creature: I've settled on ksudoku :)
[03:35] <janina07> hi
[03:35] <jordan> w30, More precisely there isn't one...
[03:35] <janina07> hi
[03:35] <w30> jordan, wonderful, that makes much more since than a dual boot with xp
[03:35] <creature> ryanakca: Make sure KDE's love of dependencies doesn't bite you...
[03:36] <w30> jordan, since/sense
[03:36] <jordan> w30, You don't NEED one, but I wish there was one that had all the strange Apple hardware working out of the box, like yellodog did.
[03:36] <ryanakca> creature: the gnomers can install gnome-sudoku if they wish....
[03:37] <jordan> w30, Do you mind if I ask which mac you have?
[03:38] <jordan> w30, The macbooks seem to have all the essentials working out of the box with Ubuntu, wheras the macbook pro is a pain.
[03:38] <sladen> jordan: if all the hardware /doesn't/ work out of the box on Ubuntu, then that's a bug
[03:38] <seshomaru123> Hi, im using Ubuntu as a file server to install FC5 from network. I put FC5 DVD iso in Ubuntu's /var/www  (apache2' directory) and booted another machine with FC5's first CD , but the Fedora installation sais it cannot find the file, any advice?
[03:38] <sladen> jordan: several of the developers use Macs
[03:38] <timi> why put linux on a mac
[03:38] <jordan> timi, why not?
[03:38] <eyequeue> timi, freedom
[03:38] <sladen> timi: "Freedom", "easy of use"
[03:39] <timi> o.
[03:39] <timi> ive never used OSX or mac
[03:39] <jordan> timi, same reason you would put it on a PC, I like Linux :)
[03:39] <eyequeue> timi, macs come with proprietary software until you do
[03:39] <AlinuxOS> linux on InteliMac ?
[03:39] <timi> yeah i guess.
[03:39] <jordan> AlinuxOS, yup :)
[03:39] <Neo8750> osx is supose to be nice
[03:39] <Jeruvy> seshomaru123: what is your document root?
[03:39] <bhearsum> i'm having trouble with the ATI drivers. (fglrx), i've followed the guides on wiki.cchtml.com but i can't get direct rendering to work. it's *always* Mesa Indirect
[03:40] <sladen> timi: Welcome to this Freedom things that drives us all to work on Ubuntu and Linux
[03:40] <AlinuxOS> jordan, so it's possible to install Linux on iMac ?
[03:40] <jordan> AlinuxOS, sorry no, I read intelmac not intel imac.
[03:40] <seshomaru123> Jeruvy, I'm not sure I understand the question? which doc?
[03:40] <jordan> AlienX, yes.
[03:40] <timi> i c. i left windows because of all th ecrash ing and what not
[03:40] <timi> but i guess to each their own
[03:40] <eyequeue> timi, i was never there to leave it :)
[03:40] <Grok_> is there any way to get ubuntu running on an old 533mhz with 32mb of ram box?
[03:40] <sladen> AlinuxOS: yes, ubuntu Matt Garett of Ubuntu did most of the original port to the Intel Macs
[03:40] <Jeruvy> seshomaru123: it's a httpd.conf setting.  review apache.org for documentation on 'Document Root'.
[03:41] <sladen> AlinuxOS: read the original blog post(s):  http://mjg59.livejournal.com/58934.html
[03:41] <eyequeue> Grok_, 32 mb, i'd go with a text install from the server or alternate cd
[03:41] <AlinuxOS> I would like to buy a PC, I've have alredy an old laptop, but it's too slow for me... HD is 5400 rpm.
[03:41] <timi> cany anybody smart anser a question about shutdown
[03:41] <jordan> AlinuxOS, They are pretty much PC's now that they have switched to intel :)
[03:41] <seshomaru123> Jeruvy, I understand
[03:41] <kitche> timi: what about shutdown?
[03:41] <timi> does this /etc/rc6.d/ exectue the shell scrips in the order they are shown
[03:41] <seshomaru123> let me check
[03:42] <timi> kitche: i have a wierd shut down it just goes to usplahs the shuts down, im thinking its because i have halt listed right after usplash.
[03:42] <AlinuxOS> sladen, hehe great.
[03:42] <jordan> AlienX, And you'r thinking about a mac?
[03:42] <timi> i believe this i s bad for my computer its not unloading everything or w/e
[03:42] <AlinuxOS> I'm thinking to buy some HP Desktop.
[03:43] <eyequeue> timi, the S are start, the K are kill
[03:43] <AlinuxOS> Mac is too expencive.
[03:43] <sladen> timi: "or w/e" ?
[03:43] <justin420> hi all. anybody help with changing my kernel from preemptable to non-preemptable or point me in the direction of a good howto?
[03:43] <timi> ok
[03:43] <jordan> Has anyone ever tried pogo linux PC's or any other OEM linux PC's?
[03:43] <ryanakca> anybody have a default sources.list they could pastebin?
[03:44] <timi> eyequeue
[03:44] <seshomaru123> Jeruvy, my httpd.conf sais nothing about root file , its almost empty just some lines on 3rd party and loadmodules
[03:44] <timi> do they execute in that order though
[03:44] <timi> for examply my /etc/rc6.d/ has the k10halt righ after usplash
[03:44] <kitche> justin420: for that you would need to probably recompile the kernel
[03:44] <timi> and ithink its not supposed to be there
[03:44] <AlinuxOS> jordan, I think that HP asemmbled pc would be  good solution.
[03:44] <timi> can sombebody tellme where there halt is in /etc/rc6.d/
[03:44] <seshomaru123> Jeruvy, i run a small website and I put my files in /var/www
[03:44] <sladen> ryanakca: "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted"
[03:45] <THX-1138> GAWD is there no easy way to avoid paying microsoft with every computer purchase? - lol
[03:45] <justin420> kitche: is that as simple as doing a make menu config, only changing the kernel preempt part, and then mkinitrd and then editing my menu.lst?
[03:45] <jordan> THX-1138, there are some OEM's that are Linux only.
[03:46] <timi> sladen: do you have this script K10Halt in this folder /etc/rc6.d/
[03:46] <jordan> THX-1138, never tried them though.
[03:46] <Jeruvy> THX-1138: not really.  I sell linux boxes ;)
[03:46] <lupine_85> justin420: make oldconfig then make menuconfig
[03:46] <eyequeue> THX-1138, you can also order a "bare" box, with no os
[03:46] <Juul> hi, i'm kinda confused about kernel headers. i used make-kpkg to build two packages: image and headers. the kernel works fine, but when i install the header package it just seems to dump it to /usr/src/kenerl-headers-something
[03:46] <THX-1138> jordan - sounds real good to me. - every dollar i give 'em they use for copyright lawyers and drm directx schemes
[03:46] <w30> THX-1138, somehow it's cheaper to buy a Microsoft pc and throw away Microsoft than it is to get a bare no operating system pc
[03:46] <ryanakca> sladen: no, the entire thing... the whole file
[03:46] <lupine_85> Juul: that's right
[03:47] <jordan> THX-1138, :)
[03:47] <PhilH> eyequeue, isn't that prohibited in some places? every machine must ship with an OS, even if it's freeDOS
[03:47] <lupine_85> if you want to build any kernel modules later, you'd use the -headers package
[03:47] <Grok_> eyequeeu, thanks
[03:47] <eyequeue> PhilH, i never heard of that, i've had no troubles doing the bare request
[03:47] <Juul> lupine_85, but it seems like old headers are still in /usr/include/linux
[03:47] <eyequeue> Grok_, good luck
[03:47] <kitche> PhilH: you don't need a computer with an OS
[03:48] <lupine_85> Juul: no. They are your C library headers. kernel headers are different
[03:48] <justin420> lupine_85: ok then, as i like the stock kernel of ubuntu, except for the preemptable part. its a little slow sometimes under heavy load.
[03:48] <sladen> ryanakca: that's sufficient.  Did it get deleted somehow?
[03:48] <ayano> what program is like hyperterm on ubuntu?
[03:48] <jordan> Phaqui, I know in some countries, where even more people pirate windows, some stores install crap versions of linux for that reason, they know it will get reformatted but it might be why people think linux doesn't have a GUI.
[03:49] <sladen> ayano: minicom
[03:49] <ryanakca> sladen: no, I'm teaching the class in #ubuntu-classroom tommorow, and I need a default one
[03:49] <timi> can somebody tell me what runlevel they have halt under?
[03:49] <timi> sudo sysv-rc-conf
[03:49] <ayano> sladen: any graphical ones?
[03:50] <justin420> well thanks all for the help. appreciate it. l8r
[03:50] <Juul> lupine_85, but it seems that the kernel header package includes new versions of the headers in /usr/include/linux. they are in /usr/src/kernel-headers-something/include/linux
[03:51] <Juul> i'm pretty sure i should be compiling my userland programs against these new version, right?
[03:51] <timi> can somebody check this file for me /etc/rc6.d/ and tell me if they have K10Halt there
[03:51] <timi> please anybody
[03:51] <lupine_85> Juul: no
[03:51] <Juul> oh
[03:51] <lupine_85> seriously. You do not want to copy those files over the files in /usr/include
[03:51] <lupine_85> make-kpkg did everything correctly :)
[03:51] <Juul> ok... i guess my problems is elsewhere then, thanks
[03:52] <timi> eyequeue: can you check to see fi you have k10 halt listed in your /etc/rc6.d/ file
[03:52] <THX-1138>  /etc/rc6.d/   i didn't see it there.
[03:52] <timi> thanks
[03:52] <sladen> ryanakca: /usr/share/gnome/help/serverguide/sample/sources.list
[03:53] <ryanakca> sladen: thanks
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[03:53] <eyequeue> timi, nothing between K01 and K11 here
[03:53] <ryanakca> sladen: cat: /usr/share/gnome/help/serverguide/sample/sources.list: No such file or directory
[03:53] <timi> k thanks
[03:53] <jordan> How do I uninstall LILO and install GRUB? ( I have gone through the mac specific steps already so it should be the same as on any PC )
[03:53] <THX-1138> dir ectory listing  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23575
[03:54] <jordan> Can I just use apt?
[03:54] <sladen> ryanakca: that's in 'ubuntu-docs';  or try /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list but that /isn't/ the default one
[03:54] <ryanakca> theVaioSale: this isn't an auction house, please run your buiseness some wheres else :)
[03:54] <sladen> jordan: for a intel Mac you _*/need/*_ elilo
[03:55] <w30> jordan, can't you use synaptic and uninstall lilo and install grub?
[03:55] <snarf> Hey, what is this "6.06 kernel security update issue"? I think I just installed some kernel update..
[03:55] <jordan> sladen, no you don't, mabie you need LILO, but not eLilo.
[03:55] <corvax> trying to read from a floppy and it says cant read supeblock?
[03:55] <eyequeue> snarf maybe the thing listed at the top of the forums?
[03:56] <sladen> jordan: let me know when you getting it working with lilo then ;-)
[03:56] <jordan> w30, I was just asking if there were any other steps, I guess that answers my question.
[03:56] <snarf> I didnt even know there was a forum
[03:56] <jordan> sladen, I already have :)
[03:56] <sladen> jordan: happy rebooting...
[03:56] <jordan> sladen, Using it right now, have been for weeks.
[03:56] <sladen> jordan: on an Intel Mac?
[03:57] <jordan> sladen, BIOS emulation
[03:57] <eyequeue> snarf, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459
[03:57] <snarf> thanks
[03:57] <jordan> sladen, How do you think they run windows?
[03:58] <seshomaru123> can anyone help me set Ubuntu's Apache for a Fedora network install?
[03:58] <sladen> jordan: the legacy environment is /just/ enough to run XP.  You really don't want to be running Ubuntu under that environment as it doesn't have access to EFI which is a bit limiting
[03:58] <BUM99> How would I get 2 250 gb hard drives in RAID 0 be able to dual boot Ubuntu and windows without screwing things up (if thats possible)? 8-)
[03:58] <PhilH> eyequeue, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/08/15/dell_mocks_ms_mandatoryos_regime/ it probably doesn't apply to you though
[03:58] <BigMac_> wtf why do you have that much HD space?
[03:58] <viator> trying to read from a floppy and it says cant read supeblock?
[03:58] <w30> jordan, I can't answer that, I haven't done it.
[03:58] <jordan> sladen, a lot of things, like ATI drivers, don't work with EFI yet.
[03:59] <viator> any idea
[03:59] <THX-1138> nice link
[03:59] <BUM99> Because im cool like that
[03:59] <georgy> ryanakca : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23578
[03:59] <w30> jordan, I know grub has to be installed but I think synsptic does that and configures it too.
[03:59] <BigMac_> tis a lot of porn
[03:59] <BigMac_> hey guys
[03:59] <eyequeue> PhilH, you're right, it doesn't, but thanks for the link.  never bought a dell :)
[03:59] <ryanakca> georgy: thanks! :D
[03:59] <BUM99> oh jah
[04:00] <sladen> jordan: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/mactel/ <-- probably the first time Ubuntu booted under Boot Camp
[04:00] <BigMac_> is it best to install windows or ubuntu first?
[04:00] <jordan> sladen, Everyone I have talked to / guides I have see reccommend using BIOS emulation, it is FULL BIOS emulation as far as I know.
[04:00] <georgy> BigMac : windows
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> BigMac_: Windows
[04:00] <PhilH> eyequeue, the lengths i had to go to to find that link i was starting to believe that i'd made it up :)
[04:00] <eyequeue> BigMac_, if you need both, then go with the other first, it doesn't "play well with others" like ubuntu does
[04:00] <BigMac_> grand
[04:00] <sladen> jordan: the ATI video BIOS is anything but "full".  The Intel video BIOS however does appear to be standard OEM BIOS
[04:00] <Caplain> where do i get xlibmesa-dev ?
[04:00] <eyequeue> PhilH, :)
[04:01] <BUM99> Will an nvidia geforce 7800 GTX work?
[04:01] <w30> BigMac_, Windows always overwrote Linux so I always put in Windows first utill I got tired of
[04:01] <georgy> BUM99 : sould be
[04:02] <BUM99> Cool
[04:02] <THX-1138> Doesn't the US Federal Trade Comission think the new clause is anti competitive? (sigh)
[04:02] <w30> BigMac_, windows overwriting and did th rm -Rf  Drive C:\
[04:02] <jordan> sladen, You are probably right, but I havn't had any problems so far.
[04:02] <sladen> Caplain: sudo apt-get install libgl-dev ?
[04:02] <thanksjack> Just gotta say one thing... I love linux
[04:02] <kitche> BigMac_ install windows first then ubuntu hat's the standard
[04:03] <BigMac_> alright
[04:03] <BigMac_> best to use live or alt to install?
[04:03] <BUM99> What if I already have 4 partitions on my HD?
[04:03] <BigMac_> I know i want to install
[04:03] <BigMac_> 64Bit
[04:04] <BigMac_> and i have live
[04:04] <eyequeue> BigMac_, i say alt
[04:04] <kitche> BigMac_: it's due to the windows installer installs the boot record in the MBR no matter where
[04:04] <jordan> sladen, What are the benefits of booting with EFI?
[04:04] <georgy> BigMac : depend on your computer
[04:04] <BigMac_> well its an emachines
[04:05] <BigMac_> 64bit 3400+ 1gig ram ATI RAD 700x pro PCI-E
[04:05] <jordan> sladen, I hope I am not coming across wrong, that is an honest question, I am not trying to sound like an a** but looking back my comments could all be taken badly.
[04:05] <georgy> BigMac_ : go for live
[04:06] <Caplain> sladen: thanks
[04:06] <w30> !EFI
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about EFI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <BigMac_> any probs with live normaly?
[04:06] <georgy> BigMac_ : no
[04:06] <kitche> w30: it's a new bios feature in the new iMacs has to do with software on hardware it's sorta locked in to that hard ware
[04:06] <BigMac_> ok....
[04:07] <BigMac_> well I am going to do this in a little while when my HD gets backed up
[04:07] <BigMac_> I have my laptop and my PC
[04:07] <BigMac_> i will be doing both b.c i imagine i will have trouble
[04:07] <thanksjack> anyone know how to get the mplayer codecs to work? I put them in the /usr/local/lib/codecs folder, but I cant play any video
[04:07] <viator> efi replaces bios
[04:07] <BUM99> Does Ubuntu support WIFI?
[04:08] <viator> there is no bios afaik
[04:08] <w30> BigMac_, I have brodband and live was a great way to install because you can do it over a peroid of days or weeks and use you system in the mean time
[04:08] <BigMac_> what do you mean?
[04:08] <sinisterr> i have just installed open-sshd but it appears that the server didnt pick up on my username and password for any users on the system as auth fails at login. How can i fix this
[04:08] <BigMac_> is there a lot more to install?
[04:08] <georgy> BUM99 : depend wich you have
[04:08] <w30> BigMac_, a modem might make you wish you had the cd's
[04:09] <lupine_85> !openssh-server
[04:09] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[04:09] <lupine_85> that one?
[04:09] <baconbacon> that is the first thing i install
[04:09] <BigMac_> well i am on U of Arkansas campus
[04:09] <BigMac_> and an away game week end
[04:09] <BigMac_> wont be much traffic over the line
[04:10] <sinisterr> lupine_85: i believe so as it came from the repo with apt-get
[04:10] <w30> BigMac_, the repositories has much more than you will ever need except in certain niches.
[04:11] <green> i'm having a problem where nautilus hangs/gets stuck with a high CPU, but if i run it with sudo it is fine..anyone ever seen that?
[04:11] <thanksjack> do I need to reinstall or build mplayer to be able to use the mplayer codecs?
[04:12] <thanksjack> is there a way to apt this?
[04:12] <maxkelley> hrm.. the computer likes the who tonight.
[04:12] <thanksjack> pink floyd here
[04:12] <w30> BigMac_, if you want to compile stuff you will find yourself going back to get development applications,.etc
[04:12] <Ginks> [199.901149]  Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block 5
[04:12] <maxkelley> thanksjack: ooh, thanks for reminding me.. gotta add some to the playlist..
[04:12] <thanksjack> :) np
[04:12] <georgy> thanksjack : apt-get install w32codecs
[04:12] <Ginks> why would I be getting errors like that?
[04:12] <maxkelley> Ginks: what drive type is hdb?
[04:12] <BUM99> arctic monkeys
[04:12] <Ginks> old, lol
[04:12] <thanksjack> does that have everything I'll need georgy?
[04:12] <Ginks> no idea
[04:13] <maxkelley> Ginks: is it a wd?
[04:13] <Ginks> just an old ata I suppose
[04:13] <BigMac_> gcc
[04:13] <georgy> thanksjack : yes
[04:13] <Ginks> hrmm, not sure
[04:13] <thanksjack> k
[04:13] <Ginks> I'll check in windows
[04:13] <maxkelley> Ginks: try lshw as root
[04:13] <Ginks> it's just an old machine, no idea on hardware specs
[04:13] <maxkelley> ah
[04:13] <Ginks> well I can't even get the live cd to boot
[04:13] <maxkelley> my 120gb western digital caviar gives me that alot..
[04:13] <Ginks> after it uncompresses the kernel I get a bunch or those errors
[04:13] <Ginks> then it goes to black screen adventually
[04:13] <maxkelley> hrm
[04:14] <thanksjack> I'm guessing the reason I cant apt-get right now is because I'm updating... ?
[04:14] <maxkelley> mine just keeps on trucking :)
[04:14] <Ginks> like hundreds of them
[04:14] <b14ck73425> how do you set passwords on files? is there any way to?
[04:14] <maxkelley> thanksjack: correct.
[04:14] <Ginks> lol
[04:14] <thanksjack> woot
[04:14] <maxkelley> Ginks: yup.
[04:14] <Davey> Will this work for RAID on my Athlon Tbird 700Mhz, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816132006 ?
[04:14] <Davey> running Dapper
[04:14] <Ginks> hrmm, well it's trying to load right now
[04:14] <Ginks> I'll wait and see what happens
[04:14] <sinisterr> can anyone help with openssh-server please?
[04:14] <Ginks> if it just goes to a black screen again I'll check the hardware specs
[04:14] <thanksjack> How did Linux get so good? it's so well-made.... but so many different people made it
[04:14] <THX-1138> !ssh
[04:14] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:15] <Tommy> hey guys
[04:15] <BigMac_> b.c they werent money grubbing asswholes
[04:15] <thanksjack> ohhh
[04:15] <jordan> b14ck73425, Yes, you can make it only readable by you'r user if that is what you mean.
[04:15] <Tommy> can anyone help me, im a new user and need a little help
[04:15] <janina07> hi
[04:15] <THX-1138> !ask
[04:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:15] <b14ck73425> yeah but can you set an actual password on the folder?
[04:16] <thanksjack> after I update will I have to restart my computer?
[04:16] <baconbacon> no you can't set a password on a file transparently
[04:16] <viator> what should i change in fstab to make a vfat floppy auto mount so i have a desktop licon etc
[04:17] <b14ck73425> :(
[04:17] <b14ck73425> oh well
[04:17] <baconbacon> it just couldn't be practical
[04:17] <Tommy> OK then....I want to move from WIndows to Ubuntu on my Asus box that has basic windows hardware. I need to know if I can run exe setup files and games on Ubuntu...I play Counter Strike and various others....I use a Netgear WPN111 for my wireless connection and need to know if that will work, as well as my graphics card
[04:17] <thanksjack> trying to password your porn folder b14ck73425?
[04:17] <b14ck73425> lol
[04:17] <baconbacon> imagine an application trying to open the file... how does it handle getting the password? what if it is a background program
[04:17] <w30> I downloaded linux kernel source with ubuntu patches and got 2.6.15.7 How do I get 2.6.15.26?
[04:17] <b14ck73425> hey its linux wouldnt i just share my porn?
[04:17] <b14ck73425> with everyone
[04:18] <thanksjack> apt-cache search kernel
[04:18] <BigMac_> lol
[04:18] <jordan> b14ck73425, lol
[04:18] <Agrajag> pornography wants to be free
[04:18] <w30> Do I have to find some patches somewhere? Where?
[04:18] <baconbacon> tsk tsk tsk NOT kernel, linux-image
[04:18] <THX-1138> Tommy - likely you can using either WINE or better Cedega it better handles Directx and disk copy protection schems
[04:18] <livingtm> after I updated last night, xorg / gome crashes unless i use a failsaf session. the only other thing i did to my system was install vmware. how can i trouble shoot this?
[04:18] <thanksjack> that's the one, sorry bacon
[04:18] <thanksjack> I'm a newb too
[04:18] <thanksjack> only done it once before :(
[04:18] <BigMac_> omg...so you can run Directx games on ubuntu?
[04:18] <thanksjack> for a price
[04:19] <THX-1138> Tommy - though i use linux for everything but gaming.
[04:19] <b14ck73425> i was just thinking for private files
[04:19] <baconbacon> !linux-source
[04:19] <jordan> BigMac_, sort of...
[04:19] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:19] <b14ck73425> oh well
[04:19] <thanksjack> I think people have run hl2 with WINE though.... which is interesting
[04:19] <BigMac_> not well?
[04:19] <thanksjack> only at like 5fps though : /
[04:19] <baconbacon> !linux-source > w30
[04:19] <b14ck73425> how does wine work by the way
[04:19] <jordan> b14ck73425, What are you trying to do exactly?
[04:19] <Tommy> and is it free?
[04:20] <b14ck73425> jordan, what do you mean?
[04:20] <thanksjack> my shirt smells like dill pickle
[04:20] <maxkelley> er..
[04:21] <maxkelley> wow..
[04:21] <maxkelley> apt started working again.
[04:21] <thanksjack> good
[04:21] <w30> baconbacon, yeah, I got that and it gave me 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1, I want the same kernel that the updater installs. 2.6.15-26
[04:21] <jester45> http://72.161.142.233/~ryan/eventide1280.jpg someone please to there (its on my computer) and tell me if you like the pic as a wallpaper
[04:21] <maxkelley> let's see how long this'll act.
[04:21] <sjust1216> I tried wine with WoW and it just wasnt like it was in windows
[04:21] <jordan> b14ck73425, with the folder, for instance would making it only readable by root ( so anyone would have to enter thier password in sudo to read it ) work?
[04:21] <thanksjack> WoW is the cancer of the computer world
[04:21] <Tommy> All I would need is to run games and have my hardware work
[04:21] <thanksjack> down with World of Warcrack
[04:22] <Num43> I was sure thats Windows...
[04:22] <maxkelley> jester45: why not?
[04:22] <b14ck73425> jordan, like if anyone tried to read it they would have to enter a specific password
[04:22] <sjust1216> because it spread so fast or because everyone has it
[04:22] <THX-1138> Tommy This site has some info http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedega
[04:22] <baconbacon> w30: what? just install linux-source, youll get latest source
[04:22] <thanksjack> both
[04:22] <sjust1216> lol
[04:22] <Num43> I dont like it cause everyone look the same
[04:22] <jester45> maxkelly: just woundering if anyone likes that
[04:22] <jordan> b14ck73425, Then you could set up a seperate user and make that owner.
[04:23] <Num43> but all around its ok
[04:23] <thanksjack> WoW is the reason people kill people
[04:23] <b14ck73425> good idea
[04:23] <b14ck73425> hmmm...
[04:23] <baconbacon> w30: version of package linux-source is not the same as version of the kernel it installs
[04:23] <b14ck73425> ill try it
[04:23] <maxkelley> jester45: try dlanham.com/goodies... it's a bit different, but cool wallpapers.
[04:23] <maxkelley> at least, I think that's the url.
[04:23] <Tommy> Honestly, I just want a pc that doesnt get viruses nd play my games and do my schoolwork without worrying about it
[04:23] <thanksjack> deviantart has some cool stuff
[04:23] <jester45> maxkelly:and i was making sure that my http server worked
[04:23] <maxkelley> jester45: it does, albiet slow
[04:23] <maxkelley> bbl
[04:24] <THX-1138> WoW took 1k hours to build a priest to 60+ Never believed it would take that long
[04:24] <baconbacon> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <thanksjack> lol
[04:24] <THX-1138> true
[04:24] <THX-1138> Hi i am bill and i am a recovering WoW addict...
[04:25] <w30> why? If you want to modify the kernel you have to go backwords?
[04:25] <thanksjack> Hi Bill
[04:25] <THX-1138> lol
[04:25] <sjust1216> why would I have to reset my keyboard settings every time I reboot
[04:25] <w30> backwords/backwards
[04:25] <thread> Could anybody say if I've got any chance of installing windows xp on the 4th of 4 primary partitions on my disk? (last 10G's or so of a 500G drive)
[04:25] <BigMac_> Cedega isnt free though..how wrong
[04:25] <baconbacon> w30, linux-source package is currently 2.6.15.24, but it installs kernel 2.6.15-26.47
[04:25] <thanksjack> I think you should use your windows cd as a coaster
[04:25] <jordan> Tommy, I'm not a gamer so I wouldn't know, but from what I have heard, if you want Gaming to "just work and not have to worry about it" you don't want Linux, almost anything else but that unfortunately, unless you pay $5 a month for sediga.
[04:26] <w30> baconbacon, ok
[04:26] <PhilH> http://art.gnome.org/ has some nice wallpapers
[04:26] <baconbacon> w30: that's weird i know but trust it, kernel source packages are uploaded same time as kernel binary
[04:26] <Montag_> If you play WoW on a regular basis... have a Windows partition.
[04:26] <linuxactivist> sjust1216:  What keyboard settings do you have to reset?
[04:26] <Tommy> lol
[04:26] <thanksjack> www.deviantart.com
[04:26] <thanksjack> discretion advised
[04:26] <pavon> is there anyway to have the software update tool use a different set of repositories than synaptic or apt-get
[04:26] <Tommy> thats interesting....im in highschool so I do do work occasionally :) but I would like my games to work as well
[04:26] <pavon> like just the security updates
[04:27] <sethk> pavon, I've not seen one.
[04:27] <thanksjack> Tommy, Linux is getting there. There are many games that run natively on Linux
[04:27] <thanksjack> so... play Doom3
[04:27] <THX-1138> thread - hm - i don't think the windows install will allow that (why? cuz' bill gates says so) but you might be able to install a disk image of a preconfigured windows system.
[04:27] <sjust1216> I go to the panel keyboard and have to chose another keyboard and then back to mine to get even the numlock key to work
[04:27] <Tommy> Steam doesnt though....
[04:27] <jordan> Tommy, for work, and productivity, and wasting time with spinning desktop cubes :) , Linux is great. But not for gaming.
[04:27] <sethk> sjust1216, unfortunately windows can be bitchy about that.
[04:28] <thread> THX-1138: nice... interesting thought
[04:28] <PhilH> Tommy, if you want to run windows games you will have to purchase a Cedega license
[04:28] <thread> THX-1138: sounds like  whole lot of trouble, though
[04:28] <sethk> sjust1216, you can try xp on that partition.  sometimes it works.  usually not, but I've seen it work.
[04:28] <PhilH> Tommy, even then it is quite buggy
[04:28] <thanksjack> or reinstall the trial version over and over
[04:28] <jordan> Tommy, I have heard that steam actually works without any tweaks just fine.
[04:28] <pavon> sethk, okay thanks
[04:28] <THX-1138> Neither does Oblivion or Need for Speed underground - most wanted
[04:28] <BigMac_> yeah keep windows for games
[04:28] <Tommy> I tried to run the exe and got no where
[04:29] <PhilH> Tommy, you should visit tremulous.net for an addictive native linux FPS
[04:29] <sjust1216> I already have daul boot
[04:29] <thanksjack> Linux will pwn at games some day... but for now I will keep my Win2k partition for that
[04:29] <jordan> BigMac_, I second that ( although I don't own windows ) dual boot FTW.
[04:29] <baconbacon> Tommy, are you using wine from ubuntu repository or wine one
[04:29] <thanksjack> having a 250GB hard drive is nice
[04:29] <Tommy> Im not using wine at alll. I just installed Ubuntu to test it
[04:30] <Tommy> igg but ill brb
[04:30] <THX-1138> thread - actually installing a disk image from a second drive is blazingly fast. the only way to go. install 15 megabytes of image in less than 10mins
[04:30] <baconbacon> ok
[04:30] <thanksjack> time to play with gnome themes, bbl
[04:30] <linuxactivist> Tommy: you can also get a copy of vmware (sure, it's $99) and you should be able to play windows games inside of windows running on vmware.  If you don't want to shell out the bucks and know someone else who can create a vmware image for you, the vmware player is free.
[04:30] <S0me1> Hi all
[04:31] <thread> THX-1138: I'd have to install windows onto another disk's partition of the same size or smaller
[04:31] <baconbacon> I would not bet on vmware for gaming performance
[04:31] <b14ck73425> is there anyway to set up a chat window if you are connected to another windows computer
[04:31] <thread> THX-1138: and dd it over?
[04:31] <sjust1216> Well i am off to work later all
[04:31] <b14ck73425> and they dont have a chat client
[04:31] <thanksjack> ooooo, crux looks nice
[04:31] <PhilH> linuxactivist, it should do you ok for solitaire and minesweeper, anything more graphically taxing you can almost certainly forget about
[04:31] <BigMac_> hey is ubuntu good for music?
[04:31] <thanksjack> it is
[04:31] <BigMac_> any grand media players?
[04:32] <jordan> Tommy, windows programs don't run on Linux without a compatability layer called WINE.
[04:32] <b14ck73425> xmms
[04:32] <thanksjack> xmms?
[04:32] <PhilH> BigMac_, how do you mean?
[04:32] <linuxactivist> performance won't be that bad on systems that support virtualization in the hardware.  coming soon.
[04:32] <b14ck73425> xmms is a media player
[04:32] <THX-1138> thread - i use a Disk image 7. got it from ebay for 12 dollars
[04:32] <thanksjack> I'm playing Floyd on XMMS right now ^_^
[04:32] <BigMac_> well like a winamp or something better?
[04:32] <PhilH> linuxactivist, if it's only coming soon that doesn't help us, does it>?
[04:32] <thanksjack> it is like winamp
[04:32] <S0me1> I can't use my intel wifi ipw3945? WPA
[04:32] <b14ck73425> yep
[04:32] <baconbacon> BigMac_: "biggest" media player for linux is amarok. XMMS is a winamp clone
[04:32] <thread> THX-1138: what's that do that dd doesn't ?
[04:32] <Audimage> how do i change a file that is read only?
[04:32] <b14ck73425> xmms is better
[04:32] <Audimage> there is a way to do it in the terminal, i can't remember
[04:32] <S0me1> any advice please?
[04:32] <b14ck73425> i promise
[04:33] <PhilH> BigMac, XMMS is a winamp clone, Banshee and Listen are some nice linux music players
[04:33] <thanksjack> you could WINE foobar2000... I plan on doing that eventually
[04:33] <b14ck73425> :D
[04:33] <georgy> Audimage : man chmod
[04:33] <PhilH> thanksjack, why the heck would you do that?
[04:33] <thanksjack> i like it
[04:33] <THX-1138> thread  - the mbr boot record is written to disk without an extra step.
[04:33] <thanksjack> foobar satisfies my every need
[04:33] <b14ck73425> so anyone is there a way to set up a chat window with a windows computer, that doesnt have a chat client?
[04:33] <BigMac_> oh yeah and are their any better bootmanagers than grub?
[04:34] <thanksjack> no
[04:34] <EriK> Even when vmware is working great on a fast box, I have had regular problems with the audio cutting out
[04:34] <b14ck73425> nope
[04:34] <PhilH> thanksjack, investigate the new options you have under linux, there are better players
[04:34] <thanksjack> pretty much just grub and lilo
[04:34] <thanksjack> stick with grub
[04:34] <b14ck73425> i agree
[04:34] <thread> THX-1138: dd wouldn't pick up the mbr? I wouldn't need it, since I want grub.. right?
[04:34] <thanksjack> yay! my updates are installing
[04:34] <b14ck73425> good job
[04:34] <jordan> b14ck73425, what do you mean with the chat thing.
[04:34] <thanksjack> :D
[04:35] <baconbacon> i agree foobar is the bomb. if there was a linux version id use it
[04:35] <EriK> b14ck73425:  in the past, ummmmmm, sort of, but everybody has the "messenger" service turned off now.  If they DON'T, you can use one of the samba tools to make annoying message boxes appear on their screen.
[04:35] <thanksjack> yeah, I just like foobar cause it's fast and anything you could ever want to do with a music player, there's a feature for it somewhere in preferences
[04:35] <THX-1138> thread - hm - i think there are several different dd utils i really like ddrescue
[04:35] <thanksjack> that program blew me away
[04:35] <b14ck73425> EriK, how please!!!!
[04:36] <b14ck73425> no im connected to my sisters computer and it would be REALLY fun to freak her out with
[04:36] <Audimage> how do i get from <usrname>@<usrname>-ubuntu:-$ to root so i can access the etc dir?
[04:36] <Audimage> damn emoticons
[04:36] <b14ck73425> :D
[04:36] <thanksjack> su
[04:36] <thanksjack> oh, this is #ubuntu
[04:36] <thanksjack> : /
[04:36] <w30> baconbacon, ok, thanks it's confusing but I suppose if I compile the kernel then I don't want to update with the automatic installer then.
[04:36] <PhilH> sudo su ;)
[04:36] <PhilH> not that it's recommended
[04:36] <thanksjack> root wins
[04:36] <baconbacon> Audimage: sudo <your thing>. sudo -s to open a root prompt
[04:36] <b14ck73425> jordan, i would like to send a chat screen and host the chat on my computer, to a windows computer that doesnt have a chat client
[04:37] <terlmann> thanks Nthdegree!!!! :):):):):):):):):):):):):)
[04:37] <w30> baconbacon, I would want do my own updating.
[04:37] <jordan> b14ck73425, would a web based option work?
[04:37] <thanksjack> I use root all the time... I even leave shells open. but that's cause I just dont care : /
[04:37] <b14ck73425> what do you mean>
[04:37] <b14ck73425> ?
[04:37] <PhilH> so, what does foobar2000 offer that would make you chose it over any of the linux players?
[04:37] <thread> THX-1138: ddrescue looks like a data recovery tool... wouldn't dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=/dev/hda3 bs=2408 do the trick?
[04:37] <baconbacon> w30, i say youd better use the package. Ubuntu patches are included. security pdates are fast.
[04:37] <NthDegree> lol no probs
[04:38] <thanksjack> anything you want your music player to do/play, foobar will do/play it
[04:38] <jordan> b14ck73425, There are web sites with built in chat "applications" using only javascript, no install neccisary.
[04:38] <sirdowny> Hey everyone, can anyone help me with some aiglx / compiz woes?
[04:38] <b14ck73425> no not like that, thank you though
[04:38] <NthDegree> PhilH: sudo -i
[04:38] <NthDegree> recommended
[04:38] <EriK> blackline:  see the smbclient man page wrt "-M"
[04:38] <thanksjack> I JUST set up my smbclient fstab entry not long ago
[04:39] <jordan> sirdowny, Best bet is to just ask a question and see :)
[04:39] <thanksjack> works great
[04:39] <sirdowny> ha ok
[04:39] <w30> baconbacon, I gotta get a /lib/modules/build directory for a 3rd party kernel module in order for it to compile.
[04:39] <EriK> it does not create a 'chat' environment, but will let you put popups on winders machines that have not disabled the messenger service
[04:39] <NthDegree> b14ck73425:  install Icechat to the windows PC
[04:39] <EriK> and sorry, not blackline but b14ck73425 ....silly tab key and numbers
[04:39] <PhilH> thanksjack, i'm just wondering what, in particular, it offers you that nothing else can
[04:39] <NthDegree> b14ck73425:  then use windows PC on here
[04:39] <thanksjack> I've never seen a more responsive media player
[04:40] <NthDegree> privte message it then :)
[04:40] <thanksjack> or customizable
[04:40] <baconbacon> w30: see if you can get away with linux-headers-386 (or 686...). most of the time kernel modules just require that
[04:40] <thanksjack> oh noes!
[04:40] <sirdowny> um so I've had compiz working in the past, but after a recent update I get the ole' no-windows-decorations.. unless I switch to metacity (which I'm in now).  i'm running the vanilla version of compiz with aiglx.   I've had this problem in the past but somehow got it working again.. any ideas anyone??
[04:40] <thanksjack> system restart required!
[04:40] <thanksjack> and I though linux was perfect
[04:41] <thanksjack> jk, brb
[04:41] <Audimage> can anybody walk me through this? i am very new to linux, and i'd really like to get BMP installed tonight
[04:41] <Audimage> http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Downloads#Ubuntu
[04:41] <jordan> sirdowny, Try compiz-start.
[04:41] <sirdowny> (also I'm running an ati radeon 8500)
[04:41] <baconbacon> Audimage: what is BMP, beep-media-player?
[04:41] <Audimage> yes
[04:41] <baconbacon> ok
[04:41] <sirdowny> ok yeah, no title bars or anything
[04:41] <Audimage> i pmd you bacon earlier, but you didn't respond
[04:41] <PhilH> thanksjack, ever encountered mpd?
[04:41] <baconbacon> !universe > Audimage
[04:42] <PhilH> oh, gone
[04:42] <eyequeue> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player, Audimage
[04:42] <jordan> sirdowny, I had the same problem earlier today, it was a bad version I believe ( this is beta software ) another update solved the problem.
[04:42] <Audimage> well, first i have to add that link to the sources.list file right?
[04:43] <jester45> any here know how to make a slideshow screen saver
[04:43] <eyequeue> Audimage, yes, sorry, i forgot you were new for a sec there
[04:43] <jordan> sirdowny, are there any new updates available?
[04:43] <terlmann> here it's yours free..
[04:43] <baconbacon> Audimage, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories if youre new to linux, very important
[04:43] <sirdowny> jordan, checking now
[04:43] <eyequeue> Audimage, follow the direstions the bot gave you, then run sudo apt-get update, before the command i gave
[04:43] <Audimage> i already got the updates
[04:44] <yoguess> hi guys
[04:44] <jester45> hi
[04:44] <yoguess> dapper and breezy, are they same?
[04:44] <ajwasek> i'm trying to su root in ubuntu but for some reason it says that it fails to authenticate
[04:44] <jester45> no
[04:44] <effie_jayx> yoguess, nope
[04:45] <eyequeue> no
[04:45] <ajwasek> any ideas why?
[04:45] <baconbacon> breezy is older, dapper is latest stable
[04:45] <jordan> yoguess, !versions
[04:45] <yoguess> oh ok
[04:45] <effie_jayx> yoguess, there is a lot of improvementes in Dapper
[04:45] <jordan> !versions
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about versions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <eyequeue> yoguess, 5.10 vs 6.06.1
[04:45] <jester45> !dapper
[04:45] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:45] <jordan> Ah, never mind :)
[04:45] <eyequeue> !releases
[04:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:45] <THX-1138> thread - http://www.opensourceforensics.org/tools/unix.html   <<- nice listing of disk imaging and repair utilities
[04:45] <jester45> !breezy
[04:45] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[04:45] <Audimage> and also, bmp has not released a package for ubuntu yet, in fact taht is why i came asking for help...i've been installing things with synaptic, but i need help installing things via terminal
[04:45] <effie_jayx> yoguess, in terms of visual and some cool apps too.. but breezy is more stable with old pc's
[04:46] <yoguess> thanks guys
[04:46] <sinisterr> arrrrrrrr
[04:46] <effie_jayx> yoguess, no p brotha
[04:46] <baconbacon> offtopic : whos got the Beatles radio??
[04:46] <baconbacon> im listening to
[04:46] <yoguess> i am running Kubuntu 6.06
[04:46] <sirdowny> jordan yeah it looks like i've got the latest updates
[04:46] <ajwasek> i'm trying to su root in ubuntu but for some reason it says that it fails to authenticate i know i'm typing in the correct pw
[04:46] <effie_jayx> yoguess,  how long have you been on it?
[04:46] <baconbacon> !sudo > ajwasek
[04:46] <harrisK> I have been running ubuntu for a while and hear a lot about fedora. Does fedora offer anything unique?
[04:46] <eyequeue> !root > ajwasek
[04:47] <jester45> any here know how to make a slideshow screen saver i have some realy cool wallpapers that i want to use but dont know anything about linux screensavers or how to make a slideshow
[04:47] <b14ck73425> it keeps saying not enough \ characters in service
[04:47] <eyequeue> harrisK, rpms
[04:47] <jordan> sirdowny, I don't know then, try asking on #ubuntu-xgl.
[04:47] <b14ck73425> if i try to message with the smbclient -M
[04:47] <yoguess> i need some help mounting and using a last partition on 1st drive and a1 partition on 2nd drive
[04:47] <harrisK> so I would no longer use deb?
[04:47] <yoguess> effie, about a month
[04:47] <aaronlev> shouldn't the commands at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades use something like  's/"dapper"/"edgy"/g' for global replace?
[04:47] <thanksjack> back
[04:47] <effie_jayx> yoguess, you first partition?
[04:48] <effie_jayx> yoguess, what format are they in?
[04:48] <yoguess> ext3
[04:48] <aaronlev> when i ran it it just updated the first occurance of "dapper" and no upgrading happens when i follow those instructions
[04:48] <yoguess> before you ask more ?
[04:48] <harrisK> can you try fedora without installing like ubuntu?
[04:48] <eyequeue> aaronlev, but not all editors are as featureful as vim, heh
[04:48] <b14ck73425> EriK, can you help with the smbclient
[04:48] <yoguess> i made "mkdir /mnt/hda3" mkdir /mnt/hdb1
[04:48] <ALL4N> hey, I want to rename my folders and files which have spaces and uppercase characters in them to lowercase and underscore for space.,.  so I'm trying out the rename command like this (to test making into lowercase first) : rename 'y/A-Z/a-z' *
[04:48] <thanksjack> i can help with smbclient
[04:48] <jordan> yoguess, do you know the partition numbers?
[04:49] <b14ck73425> how exactly did you do it?
[04:49] <aaronlev> just pointing out an error in the instructions
[04:49] <ALL4N> however, it does not work on my FAT32 drive
[04:49] <eyequeue> aaronlev, you're all set now, right?
[04:49] <aaronlev> yes
[04:49] <livingtm> I cant login to Xorg without it crashing unless im in failsafe mode..  where should I start looking to troubleshoot this?
[04:49] <baconbacon> aaronlev: not necessary... edgy doesn't appear more than once on a line in sources
[04:49] <baconbacon> i mean, dapper
[04:49] <sirdowny> hmm ok.  Does anyone else have any ideas?  windows decorator doesnt work after updating compiz-vanilla-aiglx.  and i'm using a radeon 8500.   ANY HELP is appreciated!  :)
[04:49] <Steil> Is there a way to allow nm-applet access to my keyring without a password?
[04:49] <effie_jayx> yoguess, ajam... and?
[04:49] <aaronlev> hmm, it onlyu changed the first line
[04:49] <yoguess> jordan, ID??
[04:49] <thanksjack> what's the matter with smbclient, b14ck73425?
[04:49] <aaronlev> when i ran that
[04:49] <baconbacon> oh. bad.
[04:49] <jordan> yoguess, ?
[04:49] <eyequeue> baconbacon, but without the g, it will only replease the first occurrance and ignore all other lines
[04:49] <terlmann>  fedora is redhat .bin .rpm linux based. ubuntu is based on gnu/linux debian .deb ,etc...
[04:49] <baconbacon> i must review my sed fu
[04:49] <yoguess> effie when i try to create or write a file to partition i get access denied
[04:49] <terlmann> no it is not a live disk.
[04:50] <b14ck73425> EriK was telling me how to send messages with it
[04:50] <thanksjack> oh godz
[04:50] <b14ck73425> and i cant get it to work
[04:50] <thanksjack> netsend?
[04:50] <aaronlev> i went in and edited them all by hand, i don't know sed
[04:50] <aaronlev> i fugred they should all say edgy
[04:50] <aaronlev> figured
[04:50] <jordan> yoguess, try `sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /mnt/dev/hda3`
[04:50] <wastrel> sed eh
[04:50] <yoguess> and both partition shows about 5GB being used in gparted, when i dont even have anything on there
[04:50] <nootrope> hiya. i'm trying to follow a ruby scripting tutorial. At one point it wants me to add some lines to Apache's configuration. One of the lines is, Action application/x-httpd-eruby /cgi-bin/eruby. Now, Apache2 doesn't understand Action. Is AddHandler the same thing? also, there's no /cgi-bin that i can find. What would be the analog in Ubuntu (Dapper)?
[04:50] <painkiler> hey guys
[04:51] <painkiler> how do I use the compiz themer?
[04:51] <painkiler> I want to change my theme in the compiz window manager
[04:51] <b14ck73425> it keeps saying not enough \ characters in service
[04:51] <Audimage> i hate to be so persistant, but i really need somebody to just walk me through this...
[04:52] <painkiler> I opened up the themer and I saw some spanking nice looking themes, how do I use them?
[04:52] <kRaKoN> hi there
[04:52] <b14ck73425> can you help?
[04:52] <Hor|zon> click them
[04:52] <Hor|zon> ...
[04:52] <jordan> yoguess, I mean `sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3`
[04:52] <terlmann> Nthdegree will you take a cool fighter plane jpeg for helping me?
[04:52] <NthDegree> lol
[04:52] <georgy> Audimage : you write the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:52] <Hor|zon> you have to have cgwd obviously
[04:52] <aaronlev> baconbacon: actually i had expected to be able to boot to the edgy CD, and have it recognize that i could just upgrade instead of install fresh
[04:52] <terlmann> please?
[04:52] <THX-1138> painkiler - ctrl+H .themes  in your home directory?
[04:52] <Audimage> correct georgy, i need to do taht
[04:53] <Hor|zon> he's talking about compiz
[04:53] <Hor|zon> you need to install the cgwd package
[04:53] <Hor|zon> before you can use themes
[04:53] <yoguess> "according to mtab /mnt/hda3 alreay mounted"
[04:53] <baconbacon> aaronlev: unfortunately it's not possible anymore with "live+install" cd. maybe the alternate install cd can do this
[04:53] <painkiler> THX-1138: What?
[04:53] <aaronlev> or just have a "upgrade CD"
[04:53] <georgy> Audimage : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[04:53] <b14ck73425> thanksjack, could you help?
[04:53] <jordan> OK, what partition are you trying to mount?
[04:53] <lotusleaf> what's the edgy channel again, please?
[04:53] <thanksjack> (to those using gnome) what theme are you using?
[04:53] <Audimage> ok, trying now
[04:54] <baconbacon> #ubuntu+1
[04:54] <THX-1138> ubuntu+1
[04:54] <lotusleaf> baconbacon: thanks very much :)
[04:54] <aaronlev> or at least some instructions on how to upgrade
[04:54] <b14ck73425> my own
[04:54] <Hor|zon> painkiler: do you have cgwd installed?
[04:54] <lotusleaf> THX-1138: thanks very much :)
[04:54] <yoguess> i think i had monted hda3
[04:54] <painkiler> I think so
[04:54] <nootrope> Audimage: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <aaronlev> that are findable
[04:54] <painkiler> what is the package name?
[04:54] <thanksjack> b14ck73425, hook me up?
[04:54] <yoguess> trying to mount hdb1 as well
[04:54] <Hor|zon> cgwd
[04:54] <georgy> Audimage : write lines at the end
[04:54] <b14ck73425> with my theme?
[04:54] <painkiler> ok
[04:54] <nootrope> \Audimage, or gedit :)
[04:54] <thanksjack> rgr
[04:54] <b14ck73425> rgr?
[04:54] <thanksjack> roger
[04:54] <OracleAl> Hello, does anyone use a fujitsu Lifebook N6410 with 6.0.6?
[04:54] <b14ck73425> roger?
[04:54] <thanksjack> I play counter-strike, sorry
[04:55] <painkiler> yep, I have it
[04:55] <yoguess> Jordan, but when i try to copy or create a file in GUI mode, it says access denied
[04:55] <b14ck73425> oh you want to see my theme?
[04:55] <painkiler> installed it says
[04:55] <terlmann> thanksjack: vistabut and spherecrystal and glass icons ;)
[04:55] <brian98> orcaleAL: I use a lifebook 7020
[04:55] <Hor|zon> is it running?
[04:55] <thanksjack> i want to use it, if possible
[04:55] <b14ck73425> got it
[04:55] <jordan> yoguess, Thats different...
[04:55] <THX-1138> Aero Inverse Aqua them - a dark theme  is very easy on the eyes
[04:55] <thanksjack> well.. see if I want to use it first..
[04:55] <painkiler> it is now
[04:55] <jordan> yoguess, first try sudo nautilus, and navigate to the drive.
[04:55] <painkiler> how do I get it to start on startup
[04:55] <OracleAl> Hmm, we just got the lifebook and 6.0.6 boots on it but I don't know how well it is supported
[04:55] <Hor|zon> how to do start compiz?
[04:56] <Hor|zon> script?
[04:56] <b14ck73425> can you help me with me smbclient issue?
[04:56] <thanksjack> init.d
[04:56] <Hor|zon> how do you start compiz?*
[04:56] <EriK> b14ck73425:  if the messenger service is running, something like
[04:56] <painkiler> I comand a script
[04:56] <EriK> echo "The Ellensburg police have been dispatched to the address listed on your charter account." | smbclient -M //10.5.0.101
[04:56] <brian98> orcaleAL: the 7010 works out of the box
[04:56] <jordan> Hor|zon, compiz-start
[04:56] <EriK> *should* do the trick
[04:56] <painkiler> I just type "thefuture"
[04:56] <Hor|zon> edit the script
[04:56] <brian98> no extra drivers
[04:56] <terlmann> here jack.
[04:56] <yoguess> jordan, command not found?
[04:56] <painkiler> what should I put in it?
[04:56] <EriK> SWMBO is not running that so I can't test it on her :(
[04:56] <Hor|zon> hmm cgwd --replace should do
[04:57] <OracleAl> I did get sound, but how can you tell if you can get better than 1024x768 on the screen?
[04:57] <jordan> yoguess, My bad, I'm using GNOME...
[04:57] <terlmann> jack wait one minute :)
[04:57] <b14ck73425> ty
[04:57] <Hor|zon> instead of the gnome-window-decorator command
[04:57] <jordan> yoguess, sudo konqueror
[04:57] <painkiler> ok thanks
[04:57] <thanksjack> jack?
[04:57] <yoguess> then go to teh drive that i just mounted?
[04:58] <b14ck73425> thanksjack, where would i find it?
[04:58] <thanksjack> who needs me?
[04:58] <jordan> yoguess, Yes.
[04:58] <brian98> orcaleAL: go to system preferences screen resolution
[04:58] <Hor|zon> lol don't thank me yet, check if it works
[04:58] <thanksjack> sorry, listening to classical gas
[04:58] <b14ck73425> ...
[04:58] <b14ck73425> lol
[04:58] <treedreamer> hello you guys , maybe it is not reasonable to ask such questions but i really want to know that is there anyone having both ubuntu and freeBSD installed ?? because i want to learn something about unix
[04:58] <OracleAl> brain98: Thanks will try.
[04:58] <b14ck73425> where would i find my theme
[04:58] <THX-1138> painkiler - add a folder .thefuture in your home directory or  "system    "sessions "start up programs  using the gui
[04:58] <painkiler> its in /usr/bin
[04:58] <painkiler> I just type the name
[04:59] <terlmann> jack- still with me?
[04:59] <painkiler> and bam! compiz
[04:59] <painkiler> I just got it to work
[04:59] <Hor|zon> heh why did you name it thefuture?
[04:59] <Audimage> thanks georgy, that worked
[04:59] <painkiler> because it is
[04:59] <b14ck73425> how do you turn the messaging on?
[04:59] <painkiler> lol
[04:59] <b14ck73425> lol
[04:59] <THX-1138> make your script executable drop your script in that folder
[04:59] <yoguess> jordan, i click on storage media to get to hard drive, but it says KDE media manager is not running
[04:59] <georgy> Audimage : now, sudo apt-get update
[05:00] <IcemanV9> treedreamer: install freebsd 1st, then ubuntu last. u'll have freebsd & ubuntu in grub menu list w/o problem.
[05:00] <kitche> sethk: you around
[05:00] <Audimage> does anybody know where there is an online dictionary of ubuntu commands?
[05:00] <Audimage> so i can just reference that in the future?
[05:00] <thanksjack> : /
[05:00] <terlmann> here,can you take this?
[05:00] <jordan> yoguess, Ok, I don't use KDE so lets just try this strait command line...
[05:00] <Hor|zon> well compiz has compiz-manager now so there's not much point in the script anymore anyway
[05:00] <yoguess> k
[05:00] <thanksjack> take what?
[05:00] <Audimage> i already did, and bmp is installing now
[05:00] <treedreamer>  IcemanV9: really ?? so what should i do if i want to learn BSD??
[05:01] <b14ck73425> EriK, how do i turn on the messaging?
[05:01] <georgy> Audimage : ok
[05:01] <terlmann> a file i am trying to send you....
[05:01] <Audimage> 27 megs to go on dlup, be awhile :)
[05:01] <jordan> yoguess, type sudo su..
[05:01] <painkiler> ok, thanks guys for the help
[05:01] <eyequeue> treedreamer, i missed the thread, but have a suggestion
[05:01] <Hor|zon> heh have fun
[05:01] <Hor|zon> till the next nvidia driver update anyways
[05:01] <painkiler> Will do
[05:01] <inglor> so anyhow since I couldn't get wifi working with the built in card on ubuntu :P I used my old 19 dollars one
[05:01] <inglor> the problem is now:
[05:01] <THX-1138> Has anyone seen a fix for compiz working then crashing after a couple of minutes?
[05:01] <treedreamer>  IcemanV9: oh ,that does matter
[05:01] <eyequeue> treedreamer, it's offtopic, but:  freebsd has an *excellent* online handbook, imo
[05:01] <inglor> it actually finds the card, impressive, windows hasn't
[05:01] <IcemanV9> treedreamer: read the handbook when you're stuck on something. it is fairly easy to understand.
[05:01] <thanksjack> .   /usr/share/themes
[05:01] <inglor> but, when I click activate, the computer gets stuck
[05:02] <yoguess> ok
[05:02] <inglor> and irresponsive
[05:02] <eyequeue> treedreamer, i'm sure google references it, if you can't find it on their site
[05:02] <thanksjack> I dont have an account
[05:02] <inglor> so much for linux uptime :(
[05:02] <jordan> yoguess, and do you know how to navigate in the terminal?
[05:02] <inglor> help
[05:02] <thanksjack> cant accept files I dont think
[05:02] <yoguess> yes
[05:02] <terlmann> yea... the file is in que
[05:02] <treedreamer> eyequeue:it  really is ,sorry
[05:02] <terlmann> what client you using?
[05:02] <inglor> is there any way to unstuck a stuck ubuntu?
[05:02] <thanksjack> GAIM
[05:02] <eyequeue> !register
[05:02] <jordan> yoguess, Ok, just cd to the drive and ls to test if it worked.
[05:02] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:02] <eyequeue> thanksjack, ^^
[05:02] <inglor> please?
[05:03] <terlmann> 1.5.0..... wonder wonder...
[05:03] <thanksjack> yeah, I have an account, just dont know it any more
[05:03] <IcemanV9> inglor: kill command will do. :)
[05:03] <Hor|zon> how stuck is it?
[05:03] <terlmann> have you a msn acc. ?
[05:03] <Hor|zon> no hard drive activity? does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[05:03] <inglor> really stuck
[05:03] <thanksjack> the authserv account
[05:03] <b14ck73425> thanksjack, sorry i cant find it
[05:03] <inglor> how would I execute a kill command?
[05:03] <thanksjack> its ok
[05:03] <kitche> terlman: just so you know with gaim msn doesn't work at all right now
[05:03] <thanksjack> is the authserv account bound to an email?
[05:03] <Hor|zon> you can't if it's stuck >.>
[05:03] <inglor> control+alt+f1 isn't working
[05:03] <Hor|zon> lol you need to hard reboot
[05:04] <inglor> I can't just xkill stuff :P then it wouldn't be stuck
[05:04] <eyequeue> thanksjack, nickserv?  no
[05:04] <thanksjack> !register
[05:04] <Hor|zon> it's really stuck
[05:04] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:04] <wastrel> ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:04] <inglor> great job linux :P windows never gets stuck :/
[05:04] <IcemanV9> inglor: oh! the whole box is frozen up?
[05:04] <treedreamer> thanks for all your tips .it not so good to discuss bsd on a ubuntu channel ,i will find answers myself .thanks again
[05:04] <jordan> yoguess, Does that work?
[05:04] <eyequeue> treedreamer, good luck
[05:04] <IcemanV9> treedreamer: have fun. :)
[05:04] <inglor> nope, had to hard reset :/
[05:04] <yoguess> jordan, no
[05:04] <thanksjack> windows gets stuck playing solitaire
[05:04] <thanksjack> :(
[05:04] <georgy> terlman : you can use amsn
[05:04] <inglor> anyhow, I need to know how to fix the problem :) when I click activate on my wireless connection, it goes stuck
[05:04] <Hor|zon> it does?
[05:04] <Hor|zon> since when?
[05:04] <lotusleaf> thanksjack: nsakey
[05:04] <yoguess> it will not let me cd to hda3 or hdb1
[05:05] <IcemanV9> inglor: ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work? too bad, cold reboot is the way
[05:05] <Hor|zon> check the kernel logs
[05:05] <inglor> I click activate and poof, stuck
[05:05] <jordan> yoguess, can you run `mount` without any arguments and pastebin it?
[05:05] <inglor> how?
[05:05] <thanksjack> since I started browsing the internet and immediately downloaded 17 pieces of malware
[05:05] <Hor|zon> in /var/log
[05:05] <Hor|zon> all your logs are there
[05:05] <eyequeue> yoguess, you cd to their mountpoints, not the device files
[05:05] <terlmann> jack do you have a msn account? and Nthdegree?
[05:05] <inglor> what do I do ?
[05:05] <treedreamer> eyequeue: the ubuntu people is so kind-hearted ,:).in fact i went to the freeBSD channel for help but none gave me tips .~~
[05:05] <yoguess> oh ic
[05:06] <IcemanV9> inglor: are you sure the wireless card is inserted? if it is not, then sometimes it get stuck.
[05:06] <thanksjack> terlman, you trying to send me a theme?
[05:06] <eyequeue> treedreamer, i recall that too, it's a nice os, but the community is not what ubuntu has, imo
[05:06] <simtower> does automatix install compiz and xgl?
[05:06] <inglor> it's in, it's a usb card, I was even impressed that linux got it right away
[05:06] <terlmann> yea ,bud, i have a cool one!
[05:06] <inglor> what log do I need?
[05:06] <jordan> yoguess, and you can see the mountpoints by running `mount`.
[05:06] <eyequeue> simtower, no, see #ubuntu-xgl
[05:06] <Hor|zon> erm, try kern.log.0 ?
[05:06] <IcemanV9> treedreamer: been there, done that. i know what you meant. :D
[05:06] <kitche> !openoffice
[05:06] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[05:06] <thanksjack> how big is it?
[05:07] <THX-1138> 100+ mbs
[05:07] <terlmann> 512kb.
[05:07] <thanksjack> D:
[05:07] <eyequeue> treedreamer, btw, nice nick :)
[05:07] <simtower> i followed the xgl howto but it doesn't work thats why i asked about automatix ;)
[05:07] <terlmann> what is D: ?
[05:07] <thanksjack> the look of horror
[05:07] <inglor> ok, now what do I do?
[05:07] <thanksjack> tilt your head to the right
[05:07] <inglor> I'm in kern.log.0
[05:07] <eyequeue> simtower, someone in that channel may be able to help, we don't support that in here though
[05:07] <terlmann> what ? you on dialup?
[05:07] <IcemanV9> inglor: i'm not expert on usb card. see if anyone can help ya or explore for some hints on ubuntuforums.org
[05:08] <Audimage> so thats what ctrl+alt+backspace does, shock to me...
[05:08] <thanksjack> nah, I just lovez my bandwidth
[05:08] <jordan> yoguess, Is it working?
[05:08] <terlmann> what?
[05:08] <yoguess> jordan, using "mount" i get this: /dev/hda3 on /mnt/hda3 type ext3 (rw)
[05:08] <yoguess> then i cd to /mnt
[05:08] <inglor> what can it do that makes the computer stuck :/
[05:08] <inglor> I mean, all I do is click activate
[05:08] <harrisK> I am trying to remote login to my old windows machine with ssh but it does not seem to work. I notice I don't have port 22 open on my old windows box so is this the reason or is ssh the reason?
[05:08] <inglor> isn't there any way to make it unable to make the computer stuck?
[05:09] <jordan> yoguess, Ok then `ls /mnt/hda3`
[05:09] <yoguess> then, is it cd /hda3 ??
[05:09] <yoguess> OH
[05:09] <jordan> yoguess, yes.
[05:09] <Hor|zon> well you need to find out why it makes the comp stuck
[05:09] <eyequeue> harrisK, if you aren't runniong an ssh server on it, it can't answer
[05:09] <EriK> ack, no more b1ack whatever
[05:09] <EriK> if he comes back
[05:09] <Hor|zon> which is why you need to find the kernel messages from when ti gets stuck
[05:09] <Hor|zon> it*
[05:09] <harrisK> ah ok
[05:09] <inglor> how?
[05:09] <eyequeue> harrisK, same for any target machine, no matter the os, even ubuntu
[05:09] <yoguess> "lost+found"
[05:09] <Hor|zon> in the logs
[05:09] <EriK> "sc config messenger start= auto"
[05:09] <treedreamer> eyequeue:oh ~~ maybe ubuntu is enough ,but i really want to try some BSDs ,maybe i shoule try NetBSD?? ;)
[05:09] <EriK> followed by
[05:09] <inglor> what would it say?
[05:09] <EriK> "sc start messenger"
[05:09] <yoguess> in blue
[05:09] <Phoul> Guys? is it safe to update?
[05:10] <Hor|zon> look for anything that mentions the wireless card
[05:10] <jordan> yoguess, thats it, it's working :)
[05:10] <yoguess> and same for hdb1
[05:10] <Hor|zon> >.>
[05:10] <thanksjack> sorry terlmann, but thanks anyway. I'm probably going to be changing my desktop environment anyway... I'm new to desktop linux
[05:10] <eyequeue> treedreamer, i found fbsd to be the best general purpose bsd, netbsd specialized more in "it runs on anything" than desktops
[05:10] <thanksjack> gotta try some other things out
[05:10] <yoguess> so does that mean no GUI for me?
[05:10] <jordan> yoguess, Just check `mount` to find the mount point.
[05:10] <terlmann> Nthdegree,whats your msn chat name?
[05:10] <Phoul> Is it safe to update?
[05:10] <thanksjack> it should be
[05:10] <THX-1138> treedreamer - irc support isn't the only reason to use Ubuntu. - BSD repos are painful.
[05:11] <terlmann> Phoul,yes :)..
[05:11] <eyequeue> Phoul, do you mean dapper, or edgy?
[05:11] <Phoul> dapper
[05:11] <inglor> PCI driver ipw2200 has a struct device_driver, please update!
[05:11] <Audimage> do all of the same apps, commands, and everything else work with the KDE environment?
[05:11] <treedreamer> good bye you guys and thanks really a lot for your tips
[05:11] <IcemanV9> treedreamer: you can try those BSDs in qemu or vmplayer. that way, you don't have to worry about b0rk your ubuntu.
[05:11] <Phoul> just like sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:11] <eyequeue> Phoul, yes
[05:11] <inglor> that might be it?
[05:11] <terlmann> no
[05:11] <jordan> yoguess, Try it in the GUI, it should work if you were just using the wrong directory.
[05:11] <inglor> wait, no, that's the built in card, not the usb one
[05:11] <rmd> how do i keep ubuntu from putting a link to my mounted disks on the desktop?
[05:11] <terlmann> nonoonononono go back to breezy, it is messy still in dapper's room!!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <jordan> yoguess, If not you need to change some permissions, and I can help you with that.
[05:11] <inglor> ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On
[05:11] <treedreamer> IcemanV9: oh ,really helpful tips ,i will try to install vm on my box
[05:12] <inglor> Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work
[05:12] <treedreamer> good bye
[05:12] <yoguess> jordan, yes thats what i need
[05:12] <inglor> how do I turn the kill switch off?
[05:12] <thanksjack> I'm on dapper
[05:12] <thanksjack> it seems to work ok
[05:12] <EriK> treedreamer:  I have bsd plumbing boxes that just work
[05:12] <EriK> oops, I'm always too late
[05:12] <yoguess> because im in /hda3 in GUI
[05:12] <inglor> that's still the integrated wireless card
[05:12] <inglor> but now I found out there is a kill switch that I need to turn off, the question is how
[05:12] <terlmann> libs to do essential things that can be done in windows are missing still from the dapper repos....
[05:12] <jordan> yoguess, Ok, you might want to close that terminal now ( or log out ) as it is currently running as root and able to do ANYTHING without a password.
[05:12] <EriK> $ uptime
[05:12] <EriK>  4:01AM  up 413 days, 12:36, 3 users
[05:12] <THX-1138> *hides
[05:13] <inglor> again, same message, kill switch must be turned off, HOW
[05:13] <yoguess> i right clicked to create a new file and i get error "access denied - couldnt write to /mnt/hda3"
[05:13] <eyequeue> inglor, i've nevr heard of this kill switch
[05:13] <Hor|zon> ignlor, google that message in quotes
[05:13] <harrisK> what packages need to be installed again to setup an ssh server on ubuntu?
[05:13] <EriK> that is a production fbsd box....I don't muck with it much :)
[05:13] <Hor|zon> "Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work"
[05:13] <eyequeue> EriK, no kernel patches?
[05:13] <yoguess> closed
[05:13] <inglor> good idea
[05:13] <thanksjack> oh well, I'm not that into linux yet... but I'm liking it more and more every second
[05:13] <IcemanV9> inglor: maybe onboard wireless & usb card are conflicting each other that causes your box b0rks up? just a thought.
[05:13] <thanksjack> what's the best front end for the firewall/
[05:13] <inglor> The last two lines were a worry, but Jacques Vuillemin suggested that Fn-F2 is the magic to turn off the Kill Switch. If this doesn't work then modify the BIOS (F2 on boot) to disable the wireless hotley. The wireless load command worked for me after Fn-F2.
[05:13] <terlmann> look it up.
[05:14] <terlmann> i donno.
[05:14] <inglor> great, that bit doesn't work for me, the Fn+f2 bit doesn't work, and the BIOS has no option
[05:14] <terlmann> it is automatic,after all...
[05:14] <thanksjack> right... firestarter
[05:15] <Hor|zon> hmm
[05:15] <Hor|zon> this is talking about the built-in wireless card no?
[05:15] <yoguess> jordan, so how do i change read/write permission?
[05:16] <inglor> yeah, I need to get that to work too
[05:16] <inglor> anyhow, someone said "I use to type "setkeycodes" command follow by pressing "Wireless Button" to make it change to rf_kill = "0"" what does he mean?
[05:16] <EriK> eyequeue:  if I were to reboot it, yes I would patch it in a heartbeat, but it only runs a VERY select number of services that I build and update from source
[05:16] <thanksjack> is it ok to install Hoary softwarez onto dapper?
[05:16] <jordan> yoguess, You should be able to do it from konqueror.
[05:16] <Hor|zon> you don't have a hardware switch for the wireless card?
[05:16] <yoguess> right click the drive?
[05:16] <jordan> yoguess, Let me install konqueror and see how...
[05:16] <eyequeue> EriK, yeah, and ihadn't read that it was fsbd when i typed that heh
[05:16] <terlmann> somewhat.. not hoary but safe to backtrack to breezy...
[05:16] <yoguess> ok
[05:17] <thanksjack> hmm... I'm gonna try it
[05:17] <thanksjack> if I break linux, plz help me
[05:17] <terlmann> no i wont.
[05:17] <terlmann> 8-)
[05:17] <EriK> eye :))))  it runs pdns, squid, and openvpn....all from jails, and basically nothing else
[05:17] <IcemanV9> inglor: let's make a plan to test - boot your box without usb card, when it is up, sudo ifdown eth1 (or whatever yours is). connect usb card, then sudo ifup ath0 (or whatever usb card is)
[05:17] <EriK> it just works :)
[05:17] <inglor> I do have a hardware switch
[05:17] <inglor> it's not working in linux
[05:17] <inglor> it's Fn+F2, doesn't work in ubuntu
[05:17] <jordan> yoguess, right click and go to properties, then permissions
[05:18] <yoguess> ok
[05:18] <sladen> inglor: what laptop is this?
[05:19] <sladen> inglor: if it doesn't work, that's a bug and needs filing in the bug tracker
[05:19] <inglor> asus M5200AE
[05:19] <inglor> I think it's called A5E or something for short
[05:19] <terlmann> wake up nth degree!
[05:19] <sladen> inglor: /etc/acpi/asus-wireless.sh is supposed to do it
[05:20] <sladen> inglor: perhaps there is a hardware switch on one of the sides of the laptop aswell (as in physical switch)
[05:20] <inglor> it's fn+f2
[05:20] <inglor> worked fine in linux
[05:20] <inglor> what do I do about r: /etc/acpi/asus-wireless.sh
[05:20] <THX-1138> sladen - How would you learn the keyboard model number for a laptop?
[05:20] <harrisK> is media the default mount point for all drives such as CD-ROM, usb flash drive, floppy etc?
[05:20] <inglor> I'm really no pro, you'll have to walk me through this
[05:21] <jeff2>  showrgb can uncompile the rgb database, but how can I compile it? I want to create the .pag and .dir files from the rgb.txt
[05:21] <jordan> sladen, Do you think that suspend might work if I boot with EFI? Or is there a way to get it working with BIOS emulation?
[05:21] <sladen> THX-1138: cat /var/lib/acpi-support/*-*
[05:21] <majd_> !php
[05:21] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:21] <terlmann> inglor try a breezy distro , it will work better,have more support.
[05:21] <THX-1138> sladen - Thank You - nice tip
[05:21] <sladen> jordan: don't think suspend works.  Read mjg59's blog
[05:21] <inglor> I'm not formatting again, this isn't my computer
[05:21] <Hor|zon> run it?
[05:21] <inglor> to be honest, this is an experiment I'm having with my girlfriend's computer
[05:21] <Hor|zon> did you type /etc/acpi/asus-wireless.sh in the terminal?
[05:22] <sladen> inglor: dude, no, don't format.  that doesn't solve anything
[05:22] <inglor> I want to know if she'll be able to tell it from windows
[05:22] <inglor> yep, that's what I said
[05:22] <inglor> it's a .sh file, what would typing it do?
[05:22] <jordan> sladen, Do you know how I can get wireless to work after suspend2?
[05:22] <thanksjack> terlmann, you really like breezy dont you?
[05:22] <inglor> bash it?
[05:22] <w30> baconbacon, thanks for the kernel tips :=)
[05:22] <Ginks> inglor, that's what I'm trying to do, my girl's pc is slow as hell, hoped Ubuntu would be a little more stable than xp
[05:22] <sladen> jordan: run away from suspend2 very fast and use the proper swsup code
[05:22] <Hor|zon> just type the path to it and it should run
[05:22] <THX-1138> hm -  that assumes it was correctly identified or does it write whatever string is given there ?
[05:23] <inglor> it's a pretty new PC after all
[05:23] <inglor> it doesn't
[05:23] <inglor> I get command not found
[05:23] <sladen> inglor: Ginks: I'm confused, which one of you has the Asus A5E
[05:23] <inglor> I did a sudo bash asus-wireless.sh from within the dir
[05:23] <inglor> I do
[05:23] <Ginks> inglor
[05:23] <sladen> grooby
[05:23] <inglor> that didn't output or seemed to do anything
[05:23] <sladen> groovy
[05:23] <Hor|zon> just type "/etc/acpi/asus-wireless.sh"
[05:23] <Hor|zon> it runs for me
[05:23] <jordan> sladen, I don't know what swsup is, I'm just hybernating from GNOME :) For all I know I might be useing swsup :)
[05:23] <Hor|zon> you need sudo though
[05:23] <terlmann> jack... it works better,dont deny it,the new graphical install in dapper is pure shit.
[05:24] <inglor> permissin denied
[05:24] <inglor> oh right, sudo
[05:24] <sladen> inglor: can you do  'sudo acpi_listen'   and then try pressing the Fn-F2 combination
[05:24] <linkiboy> hello ubuntu world
[05:24] <terlmann> lag,lag,lag...
[05:24] <inglor> ok, no output
[05:24] <Hor|zon> umm...hello
[05:24] <sladen> jordan: it's the code that works out of the box in Ubuntu.
[05:24] <Hor|zon> see if it works
[05:24] <thanksjack> terlmann, I'll trust you on that one :) I never tried breezy
[05:24] <inglor> tried that before, didn't do a thing
[05:24] <yoguess> jordan, change all 3 to "view and modify"
[05:24] <inglor> works how :P how would it work
[05:24] <dcroce> can someone pm with help on my sound.. THanks!
[05:24] <inglor> didn't do a thing the asus_wireless.sh
[05:24] <inglor> or at least nothing I saw
[05:24] <terlmann> get a disk iso from the repo and TRY IT.
[05:25] <thanksjack> dcroce, we answer questions here
[05:25] <jeff2> what package is the xorg 'rgb' program in ubuntu in?
[05:25] <alex_maverick> what package do i need to install to get an xserver on a ubuntu server, for X11 forwarding over ssh
[05:25] <sladen> inglor: the Unix way is to print errors, but not success
[05:25] <georgy> dcrose : what's up
[05:25] <ProN00b> how do i keep a volume from beeing mounted on startup ?
[05:25] <inglor> what success :)?
[05:25] <jordan> sladen, Everything workes ( it powers off, turns back on with everything still intact yada yada ) but when I resume ifup doesn't work.
[05:25] <sladen> jeff2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  and search from there
[05:25] <thanksjack> fstab
[05:25] <linkiboy> ive finally managed to get 3d accelleration working on a i810 chipset. however, when i try to run "Graal Online", the game switches to 256 color mode and so does ubuntu, but exits back to 16 bit mode when i exit the program. any suggestions on fixing this?
[05:25] <inglor> I see no success :P
[05:25] <thanksjack> !fstab
[05:25] <dcroce> thanksjack: ok so does that mean no pm? lol ok
[05:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:25] <inglor> the little wlan is on led isn't on
[05:25] <inglor> and I still can't connect
[05:25] <terlmann> dcrose had problems with mine just yesterday,whatsup?
[05:26] <sladen> ProN00b: use the 'noauto' option in /etc/fstab
[05:26] <jordan> sladen, All three what?
[05:26] <Hor|zon> well if you cat /etc/acpi/asus-wireless.sh it's a really basic script
[05:26] <Hor|zon> doesn't need output
[05:26] <inglor> when I clicked the wireless card icon I get a SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device
[05:26] <Hor|zon> well it should have SOME
[05:26] <jeff2> sladen, how can I search by what package provides a file?
[05:26] <dcroce> georgy: well I can hear system sounds and can record with a mic etc.  but i cant play any radio stations  or anything off of websites (myspace, etc)
[05:26] <inglor> right, and it doesn't
[05:26] <sladen> jordan: can you please file a bug report:
[05:26] <terlmann> yea..... good luck...
[05:26] <sladen> jeff2: because that is what that site (http://package.ubuntu.com/) does!
[05:26] <thanksjack> terlmann... I think I'm settled
[05:27] <inglor> trying to activate it
[05:27] <jordan> sladen, Sure, was planning on doing already actually :)
[05:27] <THX-1138> inglor - it is certainly the long way around but the FCC number will give some info that you can use on  http://www.FCC.gov  - if the keyboard manufacturer will give you what you need for linux
[05:27] <georgy> !gstreamer
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <sladen> jeff2: type the filename.  get a list of the package(s) containing that filename
[05:27] <thanksjack> I dont think I can go back to windows
[05:27] <jeff2> sladen, oh, I missed the second form. thanks!
[05:27] <ProN00b> thanks sladen
[05:27] <dcroce> georgy: im not sure if i need some plugins or codecs .....
[05:27] <inglor> last time I tried to activate a wireless connection (the other usb one though) the system got stuck
[05:27] <majd_> :q
[05:27] <inglor> and I had to hard reboot it
[05:27] <terlmann> windows wma and wmv are teh key words dcroce....
[05:27] <georgy> dcrose : yes you need plugins and codecs
[05:27] <harisund> Hello! Is there anyway I can track the incoming and outgoing TCP/IP packets from my eth0 and eth1? I am trying to setup a firewall .. so just wanted to check up things ...
[05:27] <thanksjack> is it possible to play windows media?
[05:27] <georgy> !codecs
[05:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:27] <thanksjack> legally/illegally
[05:28] <dcroce> terlmann you're right!!
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> thanksjack,  depends on the codec the file is using
[05:28] <jordan> gtg
[05:28] <mutk> harisund, tcpdump or ethereal
[05:28] <Hor|zon> inglor: you need to check you kernel messages like I said
[05:28] <dcroce> georgy: checkin these sites out
[05:28] <terlmann> yea you can play it.... get EasyUbuntu..
[05:28] <Hor|zon> look for more messages
[05:28] <Hor|zon> other than the one you found last time
[05:28] <tiroloco> hi
[05:28] <tiroloco> i have problems with GNOME on ubuntu
[05:28] <tiroloco> :(
[05:28] <harisund> ethereal ... ok ...tcpdump is practically the most inconvenient tool I have ever found :)
[05:28] <harisund> thanks mutk
[05:29] <tiroloco> the message error is Couldn't connect to session bus : Unable to determine the address of the message bus
[05:29] <Kyral> Ethereal is called Wireshark
[05:29] <tiroloco> any ideas?
[05:29] <Kyral> now
[05:29] <tiroloco>  (dbus-1-utils is been installed)
[05:30] <jeff2> sladen, it doesn't find any programs named rgb, but there has to be one somewhere
[05:30] <eyequeue> w30, ?
[05:30] <Hor|zon> ??
[05:31] <yoguess> jorda?
[05:31] <yoguess> jordan*
[05:31] <IcemanV9> w30: are you saying that only one will take care of everything??
[05:31] <Hor|zon> LOL obviously not...that would make sense...that's why I'm confused
[05:31] <Hor|zon> wouldn't*
[05:32] <yoguess> change "owner, group, other" all 3 to "view and modify content"
[05:32] <thanksjack> OGG is pretty damn good
[05:32] <viator> how do i write this .ima file to floppy?
[05:33] <thanksjack> cp?
[05:33] <w30> IcemanV9, yes just play the da@#m movie, the heck with codecs.
[05:33] <Hor|zon> if only the OGG codecs on windows weren't resource hogs
[05:33] <viator> its .ima and not .img  too
[05:33] <thanksjack> this is linux
[05:33] <Hor|zon> well we're talking about the format...not linux
[05:33] <viator> well probable using dd
[05:34] <terlmann> ... Now you're ready for the actual shopping.  Your goal should be to get it
[05:34] <viator> but im not sure about syntax
[05:34] <yoguess> can someone please help me?
[05:34] <terlmann> over with as quickly as possible, because the longer you stay in the mall,
[05:34] <terlmann> the longer your children will have to listen to holiday songs on the mall
[05:34] <terlmann> public-address system, and many of these songs can damage children
[05:34] <terlmann> emotionally.  For example: "Frosty the Snowman" is about a snowman who
[05:34] <terlmann> befriends some children, plays with them until they learn to love him, then
[05:34] <terlmann> melts.  And "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" is about a young reindeer who,
[05:34] <terlmann> because of a physical deformity, is treated as an outcast by the other
[05:34] <terlmann> reindeer.  Then along comes good, old Santa.  Does he ignore the deformity?
[05:34] <terlmann> Does he look past Rudolph's nose and respect Rudolph for the sensitive
[05:34] <terlmann> reindeer he is underneath?  No.  Santa asks Rudolph to guide his sleigh, as
[05:34] <terlmann> if Rudolph were nothing more than some kind of headlight with legs and a
[05:34] <Hor|zon> ...
[05:34] <eyequeue> terlmann, stop!
[05:34] <terlmann> tail.  So unless you want your children exposed to this kind of
[05:34] <THX-1138> !paste
[05:34] <terlmann> insensitivity, you should shop quickly.
[05:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:34] <terlmann> 		-- Dave Barry, "Christmas Shopping: A Survivor's Guide"
[05:35] <terlmann> hehe..... soory go read your fortunes people....
[05:35] <thanksjack> that's pretty horrible
[05:35] <thanksjack> and I like it
[05:35] <terlmann> :) ROFLOL
[05:35] <thanksjack> so i installed w32codecs, how do i enable them?
[05:36] <Hor|zon> you don't need to
[05:36] <Hor|zon> they just work
[05:36] <yoguess> im trying to change permissions in konqueror so thet my drives will allow me to write to the drives
[05:36] <thanksjack> mplayer still wont open stuff
[05:36] <Hor|zon> the players should find them
[05:36] <Hor|zon> what stuff?
[05:36] <thanksjack> wmv?
[05:36] <IcemanV9> thanksjack: shut down mplayer, then start it again.
[05:37] <terlmann> yea... use kplayer or totem, not mplayer..
[05:37] <thanksjack> i dont think its running
[05:37] <thanksjack> it says totem
[05:37] <terlmann> *repeats message*
[05:37] <Hor|zon> I prefer mplayer...as long as you know the keyboard shortcuts it's great
[05:37] <cantfigureapache> I recently purchased a domain name and forwarded it to my ip addy, i have been fiddling with apache all night but cant figure out how to host my site from this box, any help would be awesome
[05:37] <thanksjack> Totem could not play 'file:///smbmedia/Media/My Videos/Movies/Dodgeball.avi'.
[05:37] <thanksjack> see?
[05:37] <Hor|zon> have you got name servers?
[05:37] <Hor|zon> >.>
[05:37] <Hor|zon> lol
[05:38] <cantfigureapache> yahoo is forrwardsing them to my box
[05:38] <yoguess> no help??
[05:38] <cantfigureapache> yns1.yahoo.com i think
[05:38] <PhilH> thanksjack, do you have all the gstreamer plugins installed?
[05:38] <thanksjack> I have no clue
[05:38] <thanksjack> how might I find out?
[05:39] <PhilH> search for gstreamer in synaptic
[05:39] <terlmann> dont even think about avi's dude...
[05:39] <PhilH> terlmann, why?
[05:39] <thanksjack> i couldnt open avis, or wmvs
[05:39] <Hor|zon> hmm is apache listening to all connections on port 80?
[05:39] <thanksjack> it should be
[05:39] <cantfigureapache> I have been reading apache tutorials all night, is anyone here hosting a webserver from their box?
[05:39] <cantfigureapache> I believe so
[05:40] <thanksjack> w3m localhost
[05:40] <PhilH> thanksjack, found any gstreamer plugins?
[05:40] <Hor|zon> is the apache2.conf configured properly? >.>
[05:40] <THX-1138> Using dns tools does your domain name resolve to your currnt ip address?
[05:40] <thanksjack> many
[05:40] <PhilH> any installed?
[05:40] <jeff2> did X11R7 get rid of the 'rgb' program?
[05:40] <thanksjack> are the dark ones installed?
[05:41] <majd_> !php
[05:41] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:41] <yoguess> are you guys running KDE or GNOME?
[05:41] <cantfigureapache> thats a very good question :)  from what i find on google, i think it is
[05:41] <THX-1138> Do you have a dns updater to tell yahoo what your current ip address is?
[05:41] <PhilH> thanksjack, i think so
[05:41] <thanksjack> many are installed
[05:41] <terlmann> get all of them exept the ones (gstrmr)-where what here is NOT totem...
[05:41] <thanksjack> should I install any of the ones that aren't?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> yoguess,  Yes.. yes i am. :)
[05:41] <terlmann> where = %where%
[05:42] <PhilH> thanksjack, pretty much as many as you like
[05:42] <yoguess> willis, running both?
[05:42] <PhilH> terlmann?
[05:42] <majd_> !ftp
[05:42] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:42] <majd_> !ftpd
[05:42] <cantfigureapache> The best apache tutorial i could find was here http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/host-websites-on-your-local-machine.html
[05:42] <PhilH> thanksjack, do any of them mention totem?
[05:42] <IcemanV9> there is no DMA on sda drive?
[05:43] <THX-1138> nice link
[05:43] <thanksjack> sort of
[05:43] <terlmann> all for totem , give none back!! -jack sparrem 2005
[05:43] <yoguess> are you guys running KDE or GNOME?
[05:43] <thanksjack> thanksjack
[05:43] <cantfigureapache> the config file used in that tutorial doesnt line up with mine, and we are both using apache2
[05:43] <terlmann> GNOME
[05:43] <dcroce> im messing  around and i have an .ogg file and that plays fine. i hear the sound perfectly.. but I cant play any radio stations from Digitally Imported nor hear music on myspace
[05:43] <thanksjack> FLUXBOX
[05:43] <dcroce> i have flash 7 installed
[05:43] <thanksjack> oh, wait, GNOME
[05:43] <cantfigureapache> can anyone at all help me with apache2?
[05:44] <yoguess> thanksjack, fluxbox?
[05:44] <thanksjack> sorry apache, I'm doing that in 3 months
[05:44] <terlmann> The government [is]  extremely fond of amassing great quantities of statistics.
[05:44] <terlmann> These are raised to the nth degree, the cube roots are extracted, and the
[05:44] <terlmann> results are arranged into elaborate and impressive displays.  What must be
[05:44] <terlmann> kept ever in mind, however, is that in every case, the figures are first put
[05:44] <terlmann> down by a village watchman, and he puts down anything he damn well pleases.
[05:44] <seshomaru> hi , is it possible to install aiglx/compiz for this vga card :0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[05:44] <terlmann> 		-- Sir Josiah Stamp
[05:44] <matjan> hi, how do i activate direct redering?
[05:44] <IcemanV9> terlmann: plse don't do that
[05:44] <Tommck> hello all.  I am having problems with a ubuntu 6.06.1 CD.  I keep getting errors about corrupted packages...  I have checked the MD5... burned twice on two different media types and 2 different machines.  I've swapped out the CD drive reading the disk... and I still get errors checking for defects... anyone know WTF?
[05:44] <terlmann> hehehehehheheheheehehehheheehhe
[05:45] <cantfigureapache> try a different burner?
[05:45] <terlmann> ^evryone else screams^
[05:45] <Tommck> oh.. it's the Server CD, if that matters
[05:45] <thanksjack> terlmann, the watchman has incentive to count properly
[05:45] <THX-1138> Be your own ISP  apache + mail + ftp +     http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10
[05:45] <matjan> hi, how do i activate direct rendering?
[05:45] <Tommck> cantfigureapache - already tried 2
[05:45] <yoguess> tommck,  does it say Kernal panicked?
[05:45] <PhilH> thanksjack, how are you doing with those plugins?
[05:45] <Tommck> yoguess - no
[05:45] <yoguess> oh
[05:45] <thanksjack> they say they're done installing
[05:45] <thanksjack> time to test
[05:45] <Tommck> yoguess - tells me certain files are corrupted
[05:46] <IcemanV9> matjan: glxinfo |grep direct - what it does tell u?
[05:46] <yoguess> oh ok
[05:46] <cantfigureapache> so no apache gurus in here?
[05:46] <thanksjack> think I might need to restart? try the good old windows fix-it-all?
[05:46] <yoguess> my dell and a 64bit system says kernel panicked
[05:46] <Hor|zon> nope...what do you mean it doesn't line up?
[05:46] <matjan> icemanV9, direct rendering: No
[05:46] <thanksjack> my friend is an apache guru, but he doesn't care about your problems
[05:46] <IcemanV9> matjan: what video card do you have?
[05:46] <b14ck73425> EriK, can you tell me how to turn the messaging on? using smbclient
[05:46] <cantfigureapache> as im sure most dont
[05:47] <thanksjack> An error occurred
[05:47] <thanksjack> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[05:47] <matjan> icemanV9, ati radeon 9200SE
[05:47] <Hor|zon> lol cantfigureapache: what do you mean by it doesn't line up?
[05:47] <matjan> icemanV9, should support 3D
[05:47] <IcemanV9> !ati > matjan
[05:47] <dda> hi! how to remove a metapackage *and* it's dependencies too?
[05:47] <Hor|zon> looks pretty right to me >.>
[05:47] <BigMac_> what is the diffrence in kubuntu and ubuntu?
[05:47] <iceman24k> There a way to change the "Brown" words when ubuntu starts, to a different color ?
[05:47] <thanksjack> gnome vs kde?
[05:47] <Hor|zon> kubuntu uses kde...ubuntu uses gnome
[05:47] <dda> BigMac_, the desktop
[05:47] <BigMac_> thats it?
[05:48] <thanksjack> prty much
[05:48] <Hor|zon> yep
[05:48] <BigMac_> which has a Prettier?
[05:48] <thanksjack> either
[05:48] <Hor|zon> depends
[05:48] <iceman24k> BigMac_ Kubuntu if the KDE desktop, Ubuntu in gnome
[05:48] <thanksjack> stop the deskwars
[05:48] <IcemanV9> matjan: read/follow the instruction from ubotu - it worked on my ATI card :)
[05:48] <cantfigureapache> Hor|zon, well the tutorial explains how to host a website on your local network, but doesnt explain how to set it up with a .com if you own one
[05:48] <BigMac_> i see
[05:48] <iceman24k> BigMac_ theres little difference, best think of KDE as Windowist, Gnome as Macish.
[05:49] <thanksjack> the dns isnt part of your apache server
[05:49] <Tommck> nobody else has any ideas on the CD errors?
[05:49] <SuperMiguel> hello
[05:49] <thanksjack> it just redirects the url to your ip
[05:49] <thanksjack> through your port to your server
[05:49] <aaronlev> so edgy broke my xserver as the instructions stated, but |sudo dpkg-recongiure xserver-xorg| didn't fix the problem. I got "xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[05:49] <Hor|zon> cantfigureapache, it looks right to me, websiteA is the domain name
[05:49] <BigMac_> i see
[05:49] <terlmann> An artist who lived in AustraliaOnce painted his ass like a Dahlia.	The drawing was fine,	The colour -- divine,The scent -- ah, that was a failia.
[05:49] <iceman24k> BigMac_ thats generic, but i got gnome themed to look a lot like OSX at the moment.
[05:49] <BigMac_> and ubuntu is gnome?
[05:49] <sethk> aaronlev, reinstall
[05:49] <yoguess> i think im going back to ubuntu instead of kubuntu
[05:49] <thanksjack> big mac
[05:49] <PhilH> only Gnome is more windowsish in a number of ways and KDE more macish in a number of ways, think of KDE as a badly designed desktop for geeks and GNOME as a desktop with a usable HIG
[05:50] <IcemanV9> aaronlev: plse go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[05:50] <sethk> aaronlev, do a forced reinstall (which means install it even if you think it's already installed)
[05:50] <SuperMiguel> hey does any know knows a graphical base programa to remote into linux from windows
[05:50] <thanksjack> FLUXBOX
[05:50] <cantfigureapache> Hor|zon , by following that tutorial, should someone be able to reach your site by typing your IP?
[05:50] <iceman24k> BigMac_ you can actualy install both gnome and kde, and many more desktop gui's
[05:50] <terlmann> konqueror is fuuuullll of bugs.
[05:50] <BigMac_> i really just want pretty
[05:50] <thanksjack> fluxbox
[05:50] <yoguess> what is FLUXBOX????
[05:50] <thanksjack> desktop
[05:50] <PhilH> BigMac_ go with GNOME
[05:50] <BigMac_> like the stuff that makes you go WOW thats an OS? THATS PRETTY!
[05:50] <Hor|zon> no, not ip, just domain name
[05:50] <thanksjack> gnome works well
[05:50] <sethk> terlmann, I've found it to do very well on web sites that other open source browsers have problems with
[05:50] <sethk> terlmann, I'd say it has fewer bugs than firefox
[05:50] <THX-1138> GNOME
[05:50] <PhilH> thanksjack, it's not a desktop, it's just a WM really
[05:50] <Tommck> BigMac_ - try Xgl then :)
[05:50] <yoguess> fluxbon looks cool?
[05:51] <iceman24k> BigMac_ pretty comes with configuration. i used to be a KDE stickler, but have migrated to gnome.
[05:51] <thanksjack> well, sorry for not knowing everything
[05:51] <thanksjack> :(
[05:51] <BigMac_> xgl?
[05:51] <thanksjack> google it
[05:51] <terlmann> yea.... do me One help list compile....
[05:51] <PhilH> BigMac_ just install dapper, you'll find out what it is
[05:51] <terlmann> it always crashes...
[05:51] <THX-1138> XGL is bleeding edge - what is a poor new user to do.
[05:51] <Hor|zon> cantfigureapache,  so did you create the /etc/apache2/sites-available/<whatever name you want> file?
[05:51] <yoguess> nm, going back to ubuntu
[05:51] <yoguess> laters
[05:51] <sethk> THX-1138, not use it yet
[05:51] <aaronlev> sethk: are you recommending i go back to dapper?
[05:51] <IcemanV9> Tommck: try to burn it at lower speed
[05:51] <sethk> terlmann, must be an installation problem
[05:51] <iceman24k> BigMac_ i have not got brave enough to try xgl on Ubuntu, but i have tried the Live cd version og Gnome "XGL" take a look at kororaa linux.
[05:52] <cantfigureapache> Hor|zon, yes and I edited them accordingly and created the symlinks
[05:52] <sethk> aaronlev, I don't know enough about your situation, but I would certainly consider it.
[05:52] <thanksjack> anyone have any more suggestions for my decoding problem?
[05:52] <sethk> aaronlev, depends on your reason for going to edgy in the first place.
[05:52] <dda> anybody seen my question?
[05:52] <thanksjack> try a different media player or somesuch?
[05:52] <iceman24k> BigMac_ now if i cane theme out the Ubuntu brown, and get a better color, ill be fairly pleased :)
[05:52] <Hor|zon> cantfigureapache, so it reads "virtualhost <domain>:80" and stuff?
[05:52] <cantfigureapache> thanksack, I am a codec guru but im not insterested in your problems
[05:52] <IcemanV9> dda: didn't see it
[05:53] <thanksjack> LOL
[05:53] <b14ck73425> can anyone help me with the smbclient -
[05:53] <thanksjack> I actually laughed apache... thanks
[05:53] <AcidTonic> quick question, I need to reinstall libgl1-mesa, because a manual install of nvidia's driver broke it.  But i cant reinstall it since apt-get says its already installed. So I went to remove it and noticed about half my system pkgs will be removed if i remove that pkg, is there a way to force it to reinstall?
[05:53] <dda> How can I remove a metapackage *and* it's dependencies too?
[05:53] <Hor|zon> really if you did all that it should work
[05:53] <b14ck73425> can anyone help me with the smbclient command -M
[05:53] <ahmrahtcheer> howdy y'all.  quick question regarding edubuntu:  i've installed it on my kids' computer, but when trying to install sylpheed, i'm getting a broken package msg for libgpgme, and it can't be resolved.
[05:53] <terlmann> no, konq does not ever sucseed at listing a search database of kde help files to speed up the run,it allways crashes...
[05:53] <brian98> HELP!!! Does anyone now how to change the default screen, ie the main screen when using two monitors with an nvidia driver so that the login appears on the correct monitor etc...
[05:53] <ahmrahtcheer> any known reason or cure for this?
[05:53] <eyequeue> edgy is appropriate for those technical users who want to help debug the next release, who feel comfortable fixing major breakages regularly, imo
[05:53] <brian98> not using twinview
[05:53] <IcemanV9> dda: purge
[05:53] <thanksjack> insert windows xp disc and restart
[05:53] <brian98> and I've googled me brains out
[05:53] <eyequeue> and don't minf losing all their data of course
[05:54] <sethk> brian98, I've already told you any number of times.  It can't be done without a code change
[05:54] <iceman24k> Someone used that dirty word in here "Windows XP"
[05:54] <AcidTonic> how do i remove a pkg without any of its dependencies if im just planning on reinstalling it
[05:54] <dda> IcemanV9, how in Synaptic?
[05:54] <BigMac_> so XGL crashes a lot?
[05:54] <terlmann> Some people call them "cars" or "trucks;" I call them "dimensional
[05:54] <terlmann> transmogrifiers" because they change three-dimensional cats into
[05:54] <terlmann> two-dimensional ones.
[05:54] <sethk> brian98, no matter how many times you ask, the answer won't change.  :)
[05:54] <Atomyc> hey..!!
[05:54] <iceman24k> BigMac_ xgl is beta at best, very young. unstable.
[05:54] <brian98> sethk ,,,, I don't think we've had this conversation have we. If so I apologies :(
[05:54] <sethk> brian98, yes, we have.
[05:54] <BigMac_> lol
[05:54] <BigMac_> ok
[05:55] <BigMac_> i wont use it then
[05:55] <BigMac_> lol
[05:55] <IcemanV9> dda: ah. haven't used Synaptic in ages. i use CLI (command line). not sure.
[05:55] <Hor|zon> XGL doesn't crash...unless you just upgraded your gfx card drivers
[05:55] <eyequeue> BigMac_, i won't run it, but watch the number of people in here with problems and judge for yourself
[05:55] <Atomyc> help.>!!
[05:55] <BigMac_> lol
[05:55] <BigMac_> ok
[05:55] <brian98> well sorry about that my man
[05:55] <iceman24k> BigMac_ stick with gnome, or kde, what look and feel you want ?
[05:55] <sethk> brian98, remember, we were talking about left of and right of, but then you said that the problem isn't placement, the problem is which connector on the board is primary and which is secondary
[05:55] <terlmann> whaaat iceman synaptic offers sooo much more- how come?
[05:55] <BigMac_> i find the 3d cheezy
[05:55] <dda> IcemanV9, will purge remove dependecies that other programs require?
[05:55] <BigMac_> i just like high res
[05:55] <sethk> brian98, and I told you that you can go into the scanning code in the X server source and muck with it.  Not that it's a good idea to do that, but it's the only way.
[05:56] <thanksjack> is GAIM the best IM client?
[05:56] <brian98> sethk I got the left of and right of fine now..
[05:56] <THX-1138> BigMac - drop shadows and menu transparencies -  xcompmgr + transset is solid.  XGL is still ALPHA
[05:56] <brian98> Ok I understand
[05:56] <sethk> brian98, yes, I know.
[05:56] <Hor|zon> currently, yes gaim is the best
[05:56] <sethk> brian98, it's your other problem that's difficult.
[05:56] <thanksjack> kk
[05:56] <iceman24k> BigMac_ all of it is a matter of learning, reading, and asking questions.
[05:56] <brian98> so just gotta use vga on my best monitor!!!!! :(
[05:56] <terlmann> yes gaiming now..
[05:56] <brian98> not dvi
[05:56] <sethk> brian98, I'm not trying to be unfriendly, there just doesn't happen to be a way to do it without getting into the code.
[05:56] <IcemanV9> dda: no. it will stay, but those are not needed will be purged.
[05:56] <thanksjack> so any takers on my codec problem?
[05:56] <thanksjack> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[05:56] <sethk> brian98, that is annoying, I agree.
[05:56] <PhilH> thanksjack, GAIM is best overall but aMSN does have rudimentary webcam support for MSN
[05:57] <sethk> brian98, but not annoying enough to set up to build the X server, which is not a trivial task.
[05:57] <IcemanV9> dda: i cannot help ya with Synaptic .. hopefully, someone will.
[05:57] <Hor|zon> lol aMSN is ok if you don't mind ugly
[05:57] <thanksjack> I have installed gstream and w32codecs
[05:57] <sethk> brian98, there is a card available with two DVIs.
[05:57] <PhilH> thanksjack, and you've installed every gstreamer plugin available?
[05:57] <brian98> sethk I do my best to help people here with anything I can and I do apologise for repeating a q that's been asked already!
[05:57] <dda> IcemanV9, thanks a lot!
[05:57] <thanksjack> there are some lib things
[05:57] <eyequeue> i don't prefer gaim for irc, but i do use it for gtalk
[05:57] <terlmann> soooo get the plugins - google plugin name ubuntu
[05:57] <AcidTonic> how do i remove a pkg without any of its dependencies if im just planning on reinstalling it
[05:57] <PhilH> Hor|izon, indeed, the wonders of TCL/TK
[05:57] <brian98> sethk: maybe I'll really screw my brains up and stick an ati card in with the nvidia and watch me run to the drugstore :)
[05:57] <iceman24k> BigMac_ take a look at gnome-look.org and kde-look.org .... give you ideas what you can get things to look like
[05:58] <Hor|zon> hahaha I woul dnever even consider using an IM client for irc...they're missing so any features
[05:58] <sethk> brian98, no comment.  :)
[05:58] <eyequeue> AcidTonic, while you can, why not just sudo apt-get --reinstall install foo?
[05:58] <PhilH> thanksjack, just install the whole damned lot :)
[05:58] <thanksjack> YESSIR!
[05:58] <Hor|zon> well if you're goingn to use the gnome-xchat then maaybe you're better off using Im software :P
[05:58] <IcemanV9> AcidTonic: just reinstall will do the trick
[05:58] <cantfigureapache> Hor|zon , do I need to configure a DNS server for my .com to work?  Even if I bought my .com through yahoo and  changed the yahoo IPs to my IP
[05:58] <brian98> sethk: thanks as always and my humblest apologies. I was prob talking to you while asleep!!!
[05:58] <thanksjack> Install pkgs, for great justice!
[05:58] <brian98> but thats the way it is when you get hooked on something..
[05:59] <b14ck73425> can anyone help me with smbclient
[05:59] <brian98> I'ts 5am now for gods sake!!
[05:59] <thanksjack> maybe
[05:59] <AcidTonic> IcemanV9, thanks
[05:59] <brian98> thks again!!
[05:59] <Hor|zon> if the name servers are reflecting the correct ips then it should be ok
[05:59] <sethk> brian98, that's ok, I was answering while I was asleep
[05:59] <BigMac_> thats pretty stuff there
[05:59] <thanksjack> is it the messaging thing again?
[05:59] <b14ck73425> ...
[05:59] <b14ck73425> yes
[05:59] <thanksjack> no
[05:59] <brian98> right, gonna change inputs and restartx
[05:59] <Hor|zon> are you sure the dns has updated? normally it takes a few days
[05:59] <brian98> can I ask you another q
[05:59] <b14ck73425> why not
[05:59] <PhilH> thanksjack, though the gstreamer$ver-plugins metapackage may be all you need
[05:59] <AcidTonic> IcemanV9, now compiz starts again, thanks mate
[05:59] <brian98> very q
[05:59] <thanksjack> I'm ignorant
[05:59] <b14ck73425> no your not
[05:59] <THX-1138> cantfigureapache, - yes, your domain name needs to be given to dns servers - it can take from a few hours to a few days to be known worldwide
[05:59] <cantfigureapache> yes, they are updated
[05:59] <iceman24k> !compiz
[05:59] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:59] <sethk> b14ck73425, try a more specific question
[05:59] <IcemanV9> AcidTonic: yw :D
[06:00] <b14ck73425> i need help with an smbclient command
[06:00] <brian98> sethk: I got a new 750gig SATA drive and I want to transfer my current install of ubuntu.. Is there a linux tool or should I just ghost it?
[06:00] <thanksjack> maybe I am but I'm ignorant of my ignorance and I was just guessing that was the reason for my incompetence
[06:00] <sethk> brian98, you can do the equivalent of ghost with dd
[06:00] <THX-1138> cantfigureapache, you will need a dns update script if with a dynamic ip address
[06:00] <brian98> man dd ?
[06:00] <Hor|zon> hmmm cantfigureapache, I'm stumped...apache is too hard to configure without being there...
[06:00] <sethk> brian98, I think it's better to use tar to transfer it, though
[06:00] <cantfigureapache> it has been 4 days, and my .com is being forwarded to my static IP
[06:01] <sethk> brian98, dd let's you transfer data from drive to drive in a raw mode, like a physical disk copy
[06:01] <cantfigureapache> I am sure of this
[06:01] <brian98> and then just recreate grub??
[06:01] <thanksjack> sweet jesus brian, how much did that thing cost?
[06:01] <BigMac_> gnome looks more pretty
[06:01] <brian98> ahh ok
[06:01] <IcemanV9> !samba > b14ck73425
[06:01] <sethk> brian98, right, install grub on the new mbr at the end of the process.
[06:01] <iceman24k> what game to install in linux ? anyone got fps suggestions ?
[06:01] <thanksjack> doom3
[06:01] <thanksjack> quake4
[06:01] <thanksjack> does BF2 run?
[06:01] <brian98> thanksjack: 240euros
[06:01] <b14ck73425> thanks iceman
[06:01] <PhilH> iceman24k, go to http://www.tremulous.net
[06:01] <sethk> brian98, the man page will show you how to use tar to copy.  It's good for this purpose because it properly handles things like /dev nodes.
[06:01] <thanksjack> wowzers... I would have gotten 3x 300
[06:01] <thanksjack> much better value
[06:02] <sethk> brian98, cp -av is fine for directories, files, links, etc.
[06:02] <lotusleaf> iceman24k: enemy territory or prey with wine :)
[06:02] <Hor|zon> I'd suggest just rumaging through google...until you can find someone skilled with apache
[06:02] <PhilH> iceman24k, excellent free team FPS based on q3 engine
[06:02] <sethk> brian98, cpio will also do it.  lot's of choices.
[06:02] <iceman24k> PhilH can i apt-get it ?
[06:02] <THX-1138> cantfigureapache, - your server is running if you type 127.0.0.1:80 and yourdomainname.com:80
[06:02] <thanksjack> apache, you could try asking god, but I think he's still running 1.3
[06:02] <brian98> ok , cool... Thanks again.. Right under the table time :)
[06:02] <PhilH> iceman24k, possibly, not sure, if not there's an easy installer which can install locally(in your home directory)
[06:03] <iceman24k> PhilH i wont fight the configs for apt so ill try it, are there public servers ?
[06:03] <Hor|zon> well make sure apache is listening to all connections on port 80 also...I don't know if the ubuntu package for apache is set to automatically listen only to 127.0.0.1
[06:03] <PhilH> iceman24k, fight the configs?
[06:03] <Hor|zon> when you restart apache do you get any messages?
[06:03] <cantfigureapache> no
[06:04] <THX-1138> netstat -a  can help
[06:04] <cantfigureapache> fixed them all
[06:04] <jeff2> when I run emacs, it quits with Undefined color: "black". I think this has to do with my rgb database (which exists in the RGBPath) being rgb.txt when xgl expects rgb.dir and rgb.pag (dbm files). any ideas?
[06:04] <BigMac_> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32146
[06:04] <thanksjack> I'm installing everything Phil
[06:04] <thanksjack> cross your fingers
[06:04] <BigMac_> best looking icons i have ever seen
[06:04] <sethk> iceman24k, have you tried the apache irc channels?
[06:04] <iceman24k> PhilH to get apt-get to get it, i'd have to congfig the mirrors, i got it downloading already.
[06:04] <eyequeue> jeff2, wrong channel
[06:04] <eyequeue> !xgl > jeff2
[06:04] <THX-1138> #apache gurus
[06:04] <PhilH> iceman24k, cool
[06:04] <iceman24k> PhilH is there many players on the public servers ?
[06:04] <amicrawle> what does xgl do ?
[06:04] <thanksjack> I need faster intarweb
[06:04] <PhilH> iceman24k, yep, loads
[06:05] <eyequeue> amicrawle, breaks machines, apparently
[06:05] <jeff2> eyequeue, they don't know either :(
[06:05] <Hor|zon> cantfigureapache, I have no idea then...I usually use whm to configure all my servers
[06:05] <iceman24k> PhilH whats video card requirements ? any idea ?
[06:05] <sethk> jeff2, that's an X and/or emacs question; you have better odds of finding an answer on other channels.
[06:05] <cantfigureapache> in this section, do I put websiteA:80 or my.com:80 NameVirtualHost websiteA:80
[06:05] <cantfigureapache> <VirtualHost websiteA:80>
[06:05] <PhilH> iceman24k, when you're starting out avoit the SST servers, they'll teach you bad habits
[06:05] <cantfigureapache> <VirtualHost websiteA:80>
[06:05] <eyequeue> jeff2, well, we certanly don't support it over here
[06:05] <jeff2> amicrawle, uses graphics acceleration
[06:05] <PhilH> iceman24k, i play it on my TNT2/m64
[06:05] <amicrawle> ok how
[06:05] <Hor|zon> where it says website A always put your domain
[06:05] <jeff2> eyequeue, why not? its in an ubuntu package
[06:05] <amicrawle> i got nvidia 3d drivers
[06:05] <sethk> jeff2, it's been several years since I mucked with that stuff.
[06:06] <Hor|zon> uless it's a path...then put the path you want
[06:06] <Hor|zon> unless*
[06:06] <sethk> jeff2, it's not irrelevant, it's just (as I said) that the odds of finding someone here who knows the answer are low
[06:06] <thanksjack> are there any keyboard drivers for detection of media hotkeys?
[06:06] <eyequeue> jeff2, there are over 250 #ubuntu-* channels, this is already overused
[06:06] <tedivm> hey all of you 820 people
[06:06] <cantfigureapache> Hor|zon, ok, let me play with it for a sec and make new symlinks
[06:06] <iceman24k> PhilH i got a 64 meg Nvidia installed in this systems at the moment, but got a 265 Nvidia in my Winblows box for BF2, only reason i use winblows :(
[06:06] <THX-1138> thanksjack - xmodmap and xev
[06:06] <Hor|zon> <VirtualHost cantfigureapache.com:80>
[06:06] <Hor|zon> and servname too
[06:06] <thanksjack> wow, there really are 820 people here
[06:06] <Hor|zon> servername*
[06:06] <Healot> like those on Microsoft keyboards?
[06:06] <THX-1138> dmesg also
[06:06] <thanksjack> zboard
[06:06] <thanksjack> ideazon
[06:06] <sethk> thanksjack, no, I'm logged in 819 times
[06:07] <cantfigureapache> Hor|zon what about my /etc/hosts file?
[06:07] <thanksjack> oh, at least you idle
[06:07] <thanksjack> :)
[06:07] <Hor|zon> don't touch that
[06:07] <eyequeue> jeff2, if you look at the scroll rate, you'll probably see what i'm saying, nothing personal
[06:07] <Hor|zon> that's for local hosting
[06:07] <Hor|zon> bad local hosting
[06:07] <Hor|zon> :P
[06:07] <cantfigureapache> are you sure?  the tutorial mentioned it
[06:07] <eyequeue> ircing as root? :(
[06:07] <cantfigureapache> hmm, ok
[06:07] <thewolf> hello, whats the command to reconfigure X? My LCD monitor just died...
[06:07] <tedivm> So i've got a problem - apparently when I start up Gnome the window display thinger (the thing that lets me move windows around, had the pretty bar with the minimize/maximize/exit buttons, resize things, etc) isn't there
[06:07] <Hor|zon> yeah that's beause the tutorial is for an offline site
[06:07] <PhilH> iceman24k, should be enough
[06:07] <sethk> cantfigureapache, there is nothing wrong with using /etc/hosts for static IP name resolution
[06:07] <tedivm> however, it loads in failsafe mode
[06:07] <w30> ps aux
[06:07] <sethk> cantfigureapache, in fact, it's the most efficient method
[06:08] <amicrawle> is there a way i can cofig my view sonic
[06:08] <PhilH> iceman24k, got the nvidia drivers installed?
[06:08] <eyequeue> thewolf, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:08] <iceman24k> PhilH wow 101 mb download
[06:08] <thewolf> eyequeue: thank you :)
[06:08] <eyequeue> thewolf, np
[06:08] <amicrawle> the hot keys
[06:08] <sethk> cantfigureapache, you do need to roll over to DNS for cases where /etc/hosts resolution fails.  but that's the default configuration, so don't worry about it.
[06:08] <outerlimit> Is there any software that I can use to burn a DVD ISO?
[06:08] <sethk> outerlimit, cdrecord
[06:09] <amicrawle> k3b is your dvd burning soft
[06:09] <iceman24k> PhilH seen this, my put it on the windows box also, but want something for Linux.
[06:09] <outerlimit> And also, I was wondering about emulation
[06:09] <outerlimit> like drive emulation
[06:09] <amicrawle> what would you like to do?
[06:09] <outerlimit> so i could mount the ISO
[06:09] <eyequeue> amicrawle, if you alredy have all that kde libs
[06:09] <Hor|zon> sethk: the tutorial he was doing modified the /etc/hosts file because it was for a website only accessable localely and they were lazy
[06:09] <cantfigureapache> sethk, could you take a look at this tutorial and tell me what changes i would have to make if I was configuring for an online site with my own .com?
[06:09] <cantfigureapache> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/host-websites-on-your-local-machine.html
[06:10] <iceman24k> PhilH I actualy managed to install OSX on a Intel PC, worked well.
[06:10] <tedivm> anyone know how to figure out why the gnome-window-decorator isn't loading in a standard session but is during the failsafe session?
[06:10] <sethk> Hor|zon, be that as it may, there is nothing wrong with using /etc/hosts, and, in fact, it is a good thing to do for static addresses.
[06:10] <sethk> cantfigureapache, why do you think you have to change anything?
[06:10] <PhilH> iceman24k, if you want to try any extra maps that some of the servers are running then check out http://tremulous.info/
[06:11] <sethk> cantfigureapache, I can show you a working config for virtual hosts.  I don't have time to read through that thing right now, unfortunately.
[06:11] <cantfigureapache> sethk, i understand, my dns is coming through yahoo, so i can leave /etc/hosts alone correct?
[06:11] <sethk> cantfigureapache, as long as addresses resolve, you don't have to do anything
[06:11] <dcroce> does anyone have an opinion - which newsreader is better? pan newsreader or Liferea Feed Reader,
[06:11] <thanksjack> Phil... I have some terrible news for you
[06:11] <iceman24k> PhilH i'll get the game up first, then play a bit
[06:12] <sethk> cantfigureapache, with the possible exception of having the IP of the web server itself in /etc/hosts
[06:12] <thanksjack> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins. ... but I did stay at a best western last night
[06:12] <eyequeue> dcroce, liferea does nntp also?
[06:12] <sethk> cantfigureapache, what problem are you having?
[06:12] <thanksjack> any more ideas?
[06:12] <PhilH> iceman24k, i'll be playing under the name SoftwareFreedomDay.org for a while
[06:12] <thanksjack> no Phil, don't play, help
[06:12] <dcroce> eyequeue, im not sure
[06:12] <iceman24k> try to note it. k
[06:13] <PhilH> thanksjack, ok
[06:13] <eyequeue> dcroce, i thought it was for rss feeds and the like, not nntp, pan does nntp
[06:13] <outerlimit> amicrawle, is there a GUI i can use?
[06:13] <cantfigureapache> sethk, I followed that tutorial and can successfully see my site from anywhere on the lan, but what good is that?
[06:13] <sethk> cantfigureapache, I'll have more time tomorrow if you are still struggling with it.  However, you should find a slew of examples on the 'net.  It isn't a difficult thing to do.
[06:13] <PhilH> what files do you have in /usr/lib/codecs ?
[06:13] <dcroce> eyequeue ok thanks i want pan then :)
[06:13] <iceman24k> PhilH 31 meg, 1/3 almost :)
[06:13] <outerlimit> nvm
[06:13] <sethk> cantfigureapache, depends who is on your lan, I guess.  what happens when other people try to see it?
[06:13] <outerlimit> the console has somehwat of a gui
[06:13] <eyequeue> dcroce, and slrn is nice for console nntp :)
[06:13] <PhilH> thanksjack, and what type of video are you trying to play?
[06:14] <cantfigureapache> sethk, I bought a .com and am trying to get it to propogate and be accessible from outside my own network
[06:14] <sethk> cantfigureapache, the address has to resolve to your server using the DNS on the 'net.
[06:14] <kRaKoN> How do i set globals off on the php.ini with put editing it? I know there is a way to do it with "# php -i | grep globals" but that's to turn them on, what about to turn them off?
[06:14] <cantfigureapache> right
[06:14] <sethk> cantfigureapache, when you bought the name, did you specify DNS servers, or are you using the registrar's name servers?
[06:14] <outerlimit> nvm, it doesnt have a gu
[06:14] <outerlimit> i
[06:14] <thanksjack> lots of files phil
[06:14] <jordan> If anyone remembers the whole conversation when I was connected earlier, installing grub from apt did not install it to the MBR, how do I do that.
[06:14] <eyequeue> cantfigureapache, "own network"   do you have a router that is forwarding port 80 to the internal box in question?
[06:14] <thanksjack> wmv, avi
[06:15] <dcroce> eyequeue, i'll try both then!
[06:15] <amicrawle> i can run wmv9 and avi
[06:15] <sethk> cantfigureapache, if you can access from your LAN, the apache configuration is _finished_ and working.  Your problem is DNS, not apache configuration.
[06:15] <dcroce> eyequeue thanks again
[06:15] <eyequeue> dcroce, i always like to have a cli equivalent of the gui app breaks :)
[06:15] <eyequeue> if
[06:15] <cantfigureapache> sethk, ah
[06:15] <thanksjack> ami, dapper/totem/w32codecs?
[06:15] <tedivm> Okay- I need to get gnome-window-decorator to start loading again on startup. Can someone please help me do thia
[06:15] <tedivm> *this
[06:15] <Hazarath> FAT 32 drive will not mount suddenly
[06:16] <amicrawle> nope
[06:16] <thanksjack> how?
[06:16] <amicrawle> win32 codes
[06:16] <thanksjack> show me the way
[06:16] <amicrawle> from xine
[06:16] <dcroce> eyequeue yea i always like using the cmd line better.. makes me feel cooler lol
[06:16] <amicrawle> and deb arch
[06:16] <thanksjack> who?
[06:16] <eyequeue> cantfigureapache, you may however need to stil configure a router/firewall
[06:16] <thanksjack> !deb arch
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deb arch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <thanksjack> nope
[06:16] <cantfigureapache> sethk, hmm, im at a loss then-  dont i simply change the DNS servers in yahoo and it then points to my machine after a few days?
[06:17] <PhilH> thanksjack, install totem-xine
[06:17] <amicrawle> wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:17] <jordan> sladen, Should I try to install GRUB 2 ( I'm the guy with the macbook pro )? I remember seeing on thier site a while ago that nobody had tested it on an intel mac yet.
[06:17] <thanksjack> k, do I need to uninstall the old one?
[06:17] <Hazarath> FAT 32 drive will not mount suddenly
[06:17] <PhilH> thanksjack, you'll have to uncheck totem-gstreamer first
[06:17] <amicrawle> yes
[06:17] <thanksjack> k, super, brb
[06:17] <cantfigureapache> the router is fine, portforwarding is set up, everything is good to go-  i even took the box off my network and plugged directly into the modem
[06:18] <inglo1> I'm back and I'm running wlan on linux ^_^
[06:18] <Hazarath> My FAT 32 partition will not mount any more.
[06:18] <Hazarath> Help?
[06:18] <sladen> jordan: if you have a working setup, I wouldn't actively try to break it unless you have a reason to
[06:18] <thanksjack> One or more applications depend on 'totem-gstreamer'. To remove 'totem-gstreamer' and the dependent applications, please switch to the advanced software manager. O_O" what is happening?
[06:18] <inglo1> hey
[06:18] <eyequeue> cantfigureapache, just thought i'd check
[06:18] <PhilH> amicrawle, here i am going on about gstreamer plugins when i've forgotten that i actually gave up on gstreamer ages ago and installer totem-xine :-D
[06:19] <amicrawle> dont like totem
[06:19] <sladen> jordan: if you fancy helping them with some testing, I'm sure they'd be appreciative
[06:19] <amicrawle> like xine and mplayer
[06:19] <cantfigureapache> sethk, can you show me a working config file?
[06:19] <sladen> amicrawle: luckily, you have a choice, right :)
[06:19] <amicrawle> xine is elite
[06:19] <jordan> sladen I am a 17 year old with no data worth worrying about ( anything I need is on an external drive ). I reformat often :)
[06:19] <PhilH> thanksjack, can you just chose to install totem-xine without uninstalling the other one?
[06:19] <thanksjack> I needs the help of Phil and amicrawle
[06:19] <IcemanV9> install totem-xine will remove totem-gstreamer automagically
[06:19] <thanksjack> super
[06:20] <Hazarath> I need help mounting a FAT 32 drive, please.
[06:20] <PhilH> amicrawle, mplayer and xine both have totally braindead interfaces, well the GUI versions anyway
[06:20] <jordan> sladen, do you know how to install grub ( or grub2 ) to the MBR? removing LILO and re-installing grub didn't do it ( LILO is still there and working )
[06:20] <amicrawle> philh do you even use xine
[06:21] <jordan> sladen, from apt that is.
[06:21] <PhilH> amicrawle, i have done in the past
[06:21] <thanksjack> I have totem and totem-gstreamer, no totem-xine
[06:21] <thanksjack> do I need a dif source?
[06:21] <Hazarath> Crap, still giving me the ling 'only root can mount this drive' crap. -.-;;;;
[06:21] <amicrawle> what ver of deb do you have jack
[06:21] <Hazarath> ^line
[06:21] <PhilH> thanksjack, totem-xine isn't there?
[06:21] <thanksjack> users option in fstab haz
[06:21] <thanksjack> nope
[06:21] <Hazarath> Eh?
[06:21] <sethk> cantfigureapache, I'll paste one
[06:21] <thanksjack> !fstab
[06:21] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:21] <PhilH> thanksjack, are you using synaptic?
[06:22] <thanksjack> aye
[06:22] <cantfigureapache> thanks
[06:22] <thanksjack> hey codex
[06:22] <amicrawle> i do evey thing from the shell
[06:22] <thanksjack> k, I'll try apt-cache
[06:23] <thanksjack> same... I must be missing a source
[06:23] <PhilH> i guess so :/
[06:23] <Hazarath> thanksjack, it worked before... I dis-connected the drive to take some info to another system, reading data only, now, the drive will not mount both partitions... partition 2 will mount, partition 1 will not.
[06:23] <sethk> cantfigureapache, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23584
[06:23] <sladen> jordan: I think grub tries to be too intelligent and read to the GPT partition table, which doesn't work in this case
[06:23] <amicrawle> jack
[06:23] <tedivm> Okay- I need to get gnome-window-decorator to start loading again on startup. Can someone please help me do this
[06:23] <amicrawle> what are you missing
[06:24] <IcemanV9> sudo aptitude install totem-xine will do the trick
[06:24] <outerlimit> how do you guys feel about GnomeBaker ?
[06:24] <Hor|zon> tedivm: why?
[06:24] <azray> works great
[06:24] <PhilH> outerlimit, it's not bad
[06:24] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 lib32ncurses5 ia32-libs-sdl ia32-libs-gtk lib32stdc++6
[06:25] <outerlimit> is there something else i should use?
[06:25] <outerlimit> i can't figure out cdrecord
[06:25] <amicrawle> like?
[06:25] <thanksjack> sudo aptitude install totem-xine GGKTHX
[06:25] <jordan> sladen, I didn't get an error installing grub like I did when I installed Dapper. Are you sure apt actually tries to configure grub and write it to the MBR?
[06:25] <outerlimit> im trying to burn a DVD image.
[06:25] <thanksjack> didnt work
[06:25] <tedivm> Hor|zon, 'cause its not loading
[06:25] <thanksjack> brb
[06:25] <Hazarath> Hmm...
[06:25] <cantfigureapache> sethk, could you past the other one as well?  the file you symlink under /etc/apache2/enabled-websites ?
[06:25] <tedivm> Hor|zon, when I start gnome, there's no bar on the top of the windows to move them around or minimize them or anything
[06:25] <Hor|zon> do you use compiz?
[06:25] <tedivm> Hor|zon, it does, however, work in a failsafe session
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> tedivm,  'window decoration'
[06:26] <sladen> jordan: 'apt' downloads 'grub'.  'grub' then attempts to configure itself.  it possibly fails
[06:26] <micahcowan> tedivm, doesn't sound like a window manager is running.
[06:26] <tedivm> Hor|zon, i couldn't get compiz to work
[06:26] <cantfigureapache> sethk it is /etc/apache2/sites-available/<name of website>
[06:26] <PhilH> thanksjack, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[06:26] <tedivm> micahcowan, yea, thats what i need to get going
[06:26] <tedivm> but its working in failsafe sessions
[06:27] <Hor|zon> tedivm, did you tell it to stop running the compiz script at logon?
[06:27] <ClayG> does anyone know of a good text based brwser (preferably multi tabbed) that can access my router?  w3m for some reason will log in but not display anything, i dont know if there is a fix or not but rather just install one that is running right off the bat
[06:27] <ClayG> since i am at work and my lunch break is about to end in an nother 5 miunutes
[06:27] <tedivm> Hor|zon, yea
[06:27] <tedivm> i went so far as to delete the script
[06:27] <micahcowan> ClayG, I highly recommend links or elinks.
[06:27] <thanksjack> Phil, it just doesn't find it
[06:27] <Hor|zon> did you try "metacity --replace" in the terminal?
[06:27] <tedivm> or at least the script i knew of, i guess there could be something hiding somewhere
[06:27] <micahcowan> lynx will do if you can't use those for some reason.
[06:27] <jordan> sladen, I read in a Howto that the problem with grub was that the MBR and GPT partition table weren't synct, but I have synct them with rEFIt ( which at least one person said allowed him to install GRUB although it was Edgy and not Dapper )
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> links, lynx,  links -g . ive never seen a multi-tab text based browser
[06:27] <thanksjack> No candidate version found for totem-xine
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> thats what screen is for. :P
[06:28] <micahcowan> Dr_Willis++
[06:28] <botxj> i have question, i installed a Synthesizer that uses jACK, but i dont know how to install jACK, and the Synthesizer needs it to run, what do i do?
[06:28] <tedivm> Hor|zon, i'll be back in a minute to tell you if that works
[06:28] <botxj> i think my ubuntu uses ALSA or something
[06:28] <amicrawle> start jacks
[06:28] <IcemanV9> totem-xine is in universe repo
[06:28] <PhilH> thanksjack, use this to add the repos https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[06:28] <Hazarath> thanksjack, for whatever reason, 'sudo unmount -a' and 'sudo mount -a' worked, it usally doesn't.
[06:28] <botxj> start jacks?
[06:29] <sladen> jordan: yup, I doubt it'll work with dapper.  The Mactel was still very new when dapper came out
[06:29] <ClayG> nice , thank you
[06:29] <Hazarath> Er... umount, rather
[06:29] <botxj> what should i select in the package manager when installing jACK so that it will be seen?
[06:29] <thanksjack> it said you needed root access to mount... sudo gives you that access
[06:29] <PhilH> thanksjack, followed by https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html#codecs-gstreamer to get some codecs
[06:29] <thanksjack> -a is just auto... corresponds to the auto option in fstab
[06:29] <Hazarath> thanksjack, I NEVER saw it to work before, however. o.o;;;;
[06:29] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get install jack
[06:29] <Hor|zon> doesn't -a mean mount all devices in fstab?
[06:29] <micahcowan> botxj, I believe the package's name is jackd
[06:29] <Hazarath> thanksjack, I usally am _requred_ to re-boot. o.o;;;;;
[06:30] <thanksjack> you never have to reboot
[06:30] <Hazarath> Anywho.
[06:30] <thanksjack> just mount the target
[06:30] <botxj> micahcowan: yeah i installed it, but the server never runs
[06:30] <jordan> sladen, Should I try just installing the GRUB from Edgy? ( I don't see where there would be any conflics )
[06:30] <botxj> if i run "jackd" on the command line, it gives me a paramaters list
[06:30] <botxj> what parameters should i use to start it up?
[06:30] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get install jack
[06:31] <botxj> is "jack" needed by "jackd" ?
[06:31] <amicrawle> yes
[06:31] <micahcowan> botxj, RoseGarden's preferences tell me how, I think. I'm looking it up.
[06:31] <botxj> ok
[06:31] <micahcowan> botxj, I think jack is a CD ripper or somesuch.
[06:31] <botxj> shouldnt it have been selected as a dependency.....
[06:31] <botxj> yeah cd ripper
[06:31] <amicrawle> i use lmms
[06:31] <Hor|zon> "sudo /etc/init.d/jack start" ?
[06:31] <Hor|zon> or jackd
[06:31] <Hor|zon> >.>
[06:31] <thanksjack> I had the universe repo uncommented
[06:32] <Hor|zon> maybe...
[06:32] <tedivm> Hor|zon, I love you
[06:32] <livingtm> Im having trouble with gnome crashing immediately after login
[06:32] <botxj> i'm trying to use Om Synth, but when i start it up it says JACK isnt running
[06:32] <Hor|zon> lol are you a girl?
[06:32] <amicrawle> then start jack
[06:32] <tedivm> no, but if i was i would totally send you naked pictures of myself
[06:32] <botxj> isnt jack a cd ripper?
[06:32] <Hor|zon> lol get lost
[06:32] <botxj> i thought it was called jackd
[06:32] <thanksjack> naked pictures?
[06:32] <micahcowan> botxj, try jackstart -d alsa
[06:32] <botxj> aight
[06:32] <PhilH> botzj, no, it's a sound daemon
[06:33] <tedivm> Hor|zon, any chance you can tell me how to make the metacity thing start up on its own so i don't have to do that everytime?
[06:33] <iceman24k> whats the Command line to install a run file ?
[06:33] <botxj> i was saying isnt "jack" a cd ripper, but i know "jackd" is a sound server
[06:33] <ClayG> anyone know of a good email program from the cli that works like thunderbird
[06:33] <tedivm> pine?
[06:33] <PhilH> iceman24k, make it executable with chmod o+x filename.run
[06:33] <tedivm> :-P
[06:33] <Hor|zon> it should with gnome...go to preferences and go to session
[06:33] <PhilH> iceman24k, then ./filename.run
[06:33] <micahcowan> ClayG, mutt would definitely be my recommendation.
[06:33] <Hor|zon> and then check if theres anything set to startup
[06:33] <micahcowan> tedivm, don't most people use pine for nostalgia, rather than actual usefulness? :p
[06:33] <Hor|zon> like another script or something
[06:34] <tedivm> micahcowan, pretty much.
[06:34] <botxj> jackstart -d alsa gave me a error message, it said "cannot load driver module alsa"
[06:34] <amicrawle> Just use lmms
[06:34] <iceman24k> PhilH still new to command line whats chmod line ?
[06:34] <wastrel> most people who use pine do it because they're just used to it
[06:35] <Hor|zon> it's cool to use pine
[06:35] <Hor|zon> you want to be cool don't you?
[06:35] <tedivm> on a sidenote, i'm now addicted to Ataxx
[06:35] <iceman24k> what to tell it for this ? tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[06:35] <tedivm> damn those gnome games
[06:35] <wastrel> tho i think pine can send via smtp
[06:35] <PhilH> iceman24k, just chmod o+x tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[06:35] <micahcowan> botxj, hm. Works for me. Type jackstart and look at the options for the '-d' option. Try oss, but that will prevent all other applications from using sound.
[06:35] <Hor|zon> lol
[06:35] <PhilH> iceman24k, then ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[06:35] <Hor|zon> try esd then?
[06:35] <Hor|zon> instead of oss
[06:35] <Hor|zon> =_=
[06:35] <botxj> esd?
[06:36] <micahcowan> wastrel, you mean, without using mailx or sendmail or whatnot? Cool. I kind of wish mutt could.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> tremulous makes me soooo seasick wheni play it.
[06:36] <BHSPitMonkey> Question... why is it that you can't right click -> "Mount Volume" in "Computer", running Dapper? (At least, I can't.)
[06:36] <micahcowan> botxj, you have an esd driver available? Use that then.
[06:36] <micahcowan> I'm running edgy, so my options must differ. :/
[06:36] <wastrel> mailx is a mua :] 
[06:36] <iceman24k> think i got it :)
[06:37] <botxj> it said it coudlnt load esd
[06:37] <botxj> i dont think i have esd
[06:37] <botxj> all i have is ALSA
[06:37] <botxj> is it case sensitive?
[06:37] <Hor|zon> alsa should be the name
[06:37] <micahcowan> wastrel, mail (and mailx) are the time-honored way for sending mail, even if you're not using them as the front-end mua.
[06:37] <thanksjack> ok, I have totem-xine in the menu
[06:38] <botxj> well it's not working for me
[06:38] <thanksjack> should I still use gstreamer?
[06:38] <thanksjack> there might be missing plugins
[06:38] <botxj> the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again
[06:38] <botxj> it said this near the end
[06:38] <Hazarath> -.-
[06:38] <PhilH> thanksjack, have any new plugins turned up?
[06:38] <botxj> so does that mean i should shutdown all apps using alsa?
[06:38] <thanksjack> many many many
[06:38] <thanksjack> go forth with all speed?
[06:39] <Hazarath> Command to get fstab as su?
[06:39] <PhilH> may as well give gstreamer another go then
[06:39] <micahcowan> botxj, I don't know. :(   ...I remember seeing that error, but not how I dealt with it.
[06:39] <Hor|zon> might aswell try
[06:39] <wastrel> okey dokey
[06:39] <botxj> man that sucks
[06:39] <thanksjack> everything?
[06:40] <Hazarath> thanksjack, I can't open/save fstab, tried logging in as su via bash, still no good.
[06:40] <botxj> it also says this in the beginning
[06:40] <amicrawle> botxj   use lmms
[06:40] <botxj> jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
[06:40] <botxj>            =ep cap_setpcap-ep
[06:40] <Hazarath> Well, can open, just not save
[06:40] <PhilH> thanksjack, unless you know what you want, yeah, go for everything ;)
[06:40] <Hor|zon> "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" unless you changed the permissions on it
[06:40] <function1> is there a download manager that wil do segmented/multithreaded downloads?
[06:40] <amicrawle> botxj   if you want a computer to plug in your midi  get a atari st
[06:41] <thanksjack> you can't nano it?
[06:41] <botxj> jackd: unknown driver 'lmms'
[06:41] <thanksjack> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:41] <Hor|zon> lol you can
[06:41] <Hor|zon> that should work
[06:41] <amicrawle> lmms is not a driver
[06:41] <thanksjack> i always cli, it wins
[06:41] <brian98> sethk: just some rewiring and a change from left to right and all is good..
[06:41] <brian98> sethk: Darn why don't nvidia and ati look after us as well as windows peeps
[06:41] <thanksjack> Phil, there are HUNDREDS
[06:41] <Hor|zon> heh cli is ok for small files but gui is easier for the really long files
[06:41] <micahcowan> botxj, yeah, ignore that. mine says that too, even when it works. I think it needs to run as root to get special priveleges for that.
[06:41] <Hor|zon> not that fstab is big
[06:42] <amicrawle> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[06:42] <thanksjack> fstab is usually small for a desktop comp
[06:42] <botxj> but i'm using sudo!!!
[06:42] <thanksjack> easy to manage
[06:43] <PhilH> thanksjack, are there any metapackages?
[06:43] <Hor|zon> hmmm botxj, isn't there an ubuntu studio thing on the forums
[06:43] <Hor|zon> a whole section
[06:43] <topynate> hello, i just installed the proprietary nvidia drivers and now X won't start, can anyone help?
[06:43] <iliketoprogram> hiya!   i've edited my  /boot/grub/menu.lst file to my liking.  how do i reinstall it ?    on hd0, with partition /dev/sda3     and root on (hd0,2) , the 2nd partition being the active boot partition?
[06:43] <botxj> beats me
[06:43] <iliketoprogram> thank you in advance!
[06:43] <PhilH> thanksjack, are the ones listed here there?
[06:43] <PhilH> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html#codecs-gstreamer
[06:43] <amicrawle> botxj what are realy looking for ?
[06:43] <Hor|zon> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=128
[06:43] <Hor|zon> have a look at that?
[06:44] <botxj> i'm looking to make the program Om Synth to work
[06:44] <iliketoprogram> grub-install something or other --- or something else?
[06:44] <amicrawle> what platform?
[06:44] <botxj> everytime i run Om Synth it says it needs jACK
[06:44] <botxj> platform?
[06:44] <thanksjack> Phil, 94 new items
[06:44] <botxj> i use AMD64
[06:44] <amicrawle> yes OS
[06:44] <botxj> oh
[06:44] <Hazarath> thanksjack, now it doesn't let me write to it. -.-
[06:44] <botxj> ubuntu 6.06
[06:45] <amicrawle> the app  you are trying to run what was it made for ?
[06:45] <Ricesteam> How do I revert wine to an older version?
[06:45] <Hor|zon> Hazarath, it says permission denied?
[06:45] <thanksjack> Hazarath
[06:45] <Hazarath> thanksjack, it will let me read/write to partition 2, but not partition 1
[06:45] <botxj> amicrawle: the app is a Synthesizer
[06:45] <thanksjack> sudo chown root /etc/fstab
[06:45] <thanksjack> or something
[06:45] <amicrawle> so like from a korg?
[06:45] <iceman24k> PhilH what server you play on again
[06:45] <thanksjack> acutally, chmod it
[06:45] <botxj> amicrawle: i got from the ubuntu app database
[06:45] <botxj> i dotn know what a korg is
[06:45] <thanksjack> !chmod
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <amicrawle> lmms should  do the trick
[06:46] <Hazarath> thanksjack, that fixed... will this happen again?
[06:46] <amicrawle> or rose garden
[06:46] <thanksjack> it shouldn't
[06:46] <botxj> is lmms in the ubuntu package list?
[06:46] <amicrawle> yes
[06:46] <Hazarath> thanksjack, Okes... let's hope not, heh.
[06:46] <thanksjack> I'm not sure how it happened in the first place
[06:46] <amicrawle> i just got it
[06:46] <Hor|zon> Hazarath, it won't
[06:46] <Hazarath> Ok, good.
[06:46] <amicrawle> just goto the shell and type
[06:46] <PhilH> iceman24, depends, i'll generally be called tremulant, you can do a player search
[06:46] <thanksjack> if root owns it it shouldn't be touchable
[06:47] <PhilH> thanksjack, have you selected the ones listed on that page?
[06:47] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get install lmms
[06:47] <Hor|zon> hmmm I'm getting the hang of tracking convos in here now...at first it was hell
[06:47] <Hor|zon> but aftera  few hours it's easy
[06:47] <botxj> i dont like using aptget, i like to be visual with the GUI, so i use synaptic package manager
[06:47] <thanksjack> I selected everything... tired of messing around ;P
[06:47] <botxj> even though the package manager uses that command
[06:48] <thanksjack> they are all small anyway
[06:48] <amicrawle> oh a gui person are you ?
[06:48] <botxj> yeah i like to be visual
[06:48] <amicrawle> ok
[06:48] <Hor|zon> heh apt-get and aptitude are more advanced than synaptic and have a ton of useful features
[06:48] <amicrawle> then get it from the synaptic package manager
[06:48] <Thorrn4> hey everyone, are there any problems wit SM 6.0 that I should be aware of before I install it?
[06:48] <thanksjack> ok... here we go again
[06:49] <thanksjack> ****
[06:49] <amicrawle> what is SM 6.0
[06:49] <thanksjack> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[06:49] <PhilH> thanksjack, ?
[06:49] <Thorrn4> amicrawle, Simply Mepis 6.0
[06:49] <Toaster54> Hi
[06:49] <PhilH> ?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!?!?####@@@!!!!
[06:49] <thanksjack> wow this is kinda getting on my nerves
[06:49] <Hor|zon> lol
[06:49] <Hor|zon> kinda
[06:49] <botxj> so lmms is a synthesizer huh?
[06:49] <PhilH> you have actually clicked apply, just to verify ;)
[06:49] <amicrawle> meps will rip your drive in h 1/2
[06:49] <thanksjack> yes
[06:50] <PhilH> right, sod it, go with totem-xine
[06:50] <thanksjack> do I need to make or something?
[06:50] <Toaster54> I need help, i need GLIBC 2.3.3 but i am too dumb to compile it myself
[06:50] <amicrawle> dont plan on getting it back
[06:50] <thanksjack> make mplayer
[06:50] <botxj> lmms will run on ALSA?
[06:50] <amicrawle> yes and arts
[06:50] <Pinguinito>  Toaster54 synaptic?
[06:50] <botxj> aight
[06:50] <botxj> i'm installing it right now
[06:50] <Toaster54> umm it doesn't show up anything on glibc except the documentation
[06:50] <botxj> maybe someday i'll learn how to make jACK run
[06:51] <thanksjack> I read something on a site that said they had to get the source of the media player and used a make command
[06:51] <thanksjack> I've never done that
[06:51] <Pinguinito>  Toaster54 wait a sec
[06:51] <Toaster54> I'll do :)
[06:51] <botxj> the ubuntu package guys should have like a system that makes sure everything is taken care off when you install an app that needs to use jACK
[06:52] <Pinguinito> dapper?
[06:52] <wastrel> what's jack?
[06:52] <Toaster54> yea
[06:52] <sethk> thanksjack, well,  you can if  you want to
[06:52] <eyequeue> !info jack
[06:52] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1-14 (dapper), package size 121 kB, installed size 572 kB
[06:52] <Pinguinito> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages
[06:52] <botxj> like the way i selected lmms, the package manager automatically selected lmms-common and other needed libs for me to install
[06:52] <thanksjack> wait a second.... to be removed: Ubuntu-desktop?
[06:52] <PhilH> thanksjack, what are you doing at this point?
[06:52] <amicrawle> jack is a server
[06:52] <Pinguinito> there you will find the .deb
[06:52] <wastrel> ubuntu-desktop is a wrapper, you don't need it
[06:53] <thanksjack> you better be right
[06:53] <eyequeue> thanksjack, it's only a meta-package
[06:53] <Toaster54> Pinguinito: I only found that: glibc-doc (2.3.6-0ubuntu20)
[06:53] <PhilH> thanksjack, what are you doing at this point?
[06:53] <thanksjack> installing xine
[06:53] <thanksjack> it wants to get rid of some stuff
[06:53] <eyequeue> Toaster54, libc6 and libc6-dev
[06:53] <Toaster54> that is glibc? umm ok ill try it
[06:54] <PhilH> ok, have you tried running totem from a prompt while CWD is /usr/lib/codecs?
[06:54] <Pinguinito>  eyequeue :-)
[06:54] <iliketoprogram> what i need to know is what my install_device is in my case, is it (hd0,2- is this the third primary partition, or the second logical?)  - /dev/sda3 (third primary partition) is root..
[06:54] <eyequeue> Toaster54, glibc is gnu libc, yes
[06:54] <Toaster54> and what about this: libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 (1:2.95.4-24) [universe] 
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> iliketoprogram,  check the /boot/grub/device.map
[06:54] <exarkun> is gstreamer0.10-pitfdll broken in edgy?  'gst-inspect pitfdll' shows 0 features.
[06:54] <amicrawle> hydrogen
[06:55] <thanksjack> xine is installed
[06:55] <thanksjack> how do i run it?
[06:55] <amicrawle> is a nother app you might like use jack
[06:55] <eyequeue> Toaster54, that's g++ , different, but that one is compatible with tht version of glibc
[06:55] <amicrawle> jack are are you trying to do
[06:55] <iliketoprogram> Dr_Willis : (hd0)   /dev/sda --- this is what is in my device.map
[06:55] <Toaster54> umm ok, thanks :) i hope srcds works now
[06:55] <eyequeue> Toaster54, think C vs C++ languages
[06:55] <eyequeue> Toaster54, related, but not the same
[06:55] <Toaster54> ahh yea right i missed the ++
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> iliketoprogram,  then sda1 is hd0 it seems.
[06:56] <a2xm> hi all... anyone have try connecting your digital camera via usb cable to xubuntu 6.06?
[06:56] <thanksjack> ami, what plugins do I need now? I have Totem-Xine installed and gstream is gone
[06:56] <PhilH> thanksjack, is that totem-xine or just xine?
[06:56] <thanksjack> it still wont open avis
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> iliketoprogram,  rember that grub starts counting at 0,  and the grub command shell can do 'completion' to show what drives are what.
[06:56] <PhilH> you've restarted totem?
[06:56] <Toaster54> eyequeue: the package is already installed but the server doesn't work becauses it seems to be too old
[06:56] <thanksjack> Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.1.1
[06:56] <PhilH> where did this avi come from?
[06:56] <Toaster54> eyequeue: the crash message is always "*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xb7d99000 ***"
[06:56] <thanksjack> is there any other way to restart than closing and opening the app?
[06:56] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libakode2-mpeg
[06:56] <thanksjack> its any avi
[06:56] <amicrawle> you need to do that
[06:57] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libakode2-mpeg
[06:57] <eyequeue> Toaster54, sorry, i'm no help with that
[06:57] <Toaster54> hmm ok, thanks anyways
[06:57] <Toaster54> i hate glibc argh!
[06:57] <amicrawle> to get avi,mv4,wmv,aiff,mov,etc:
[06:57] <thanksjack> performing tasks
[06:57] <Toaster54> i think itll be better for me to install cedega and a windows server on it again :(
[06:58] <thanksjack> can I uninstall all that gstreamer crap after?
[06:58] <thanksjack> or should I leave it?
[06:58] <amicrawle> it does not hurt it
[06:58] <amicrawle> if it needs to remove it it will
[06:58] <thanksjack> k
[06:58] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libakode2-mpeg
[06:58] <thanksjack> oh what
[06:58] <thanksjack> its playing
[06:59] <thanksjack> uhh
[06:59] <thanksjack> wtf
[06:59] <iliketoprogram> Dr_Willis ... the 2nd physical and logical partition  is my boot flagged partition.  I have  ext3 ntfs (logical: vfat swap) ext3   --- where the non-logical are primary, and the order is the physical order of the drives
[07:00] <amicrawle> boxtj  did that help
[07:00] <amicrawle> jack did that help?
[07:00] <botxj> jack?
[07:00] <botxj> well, lmms looks nice
[07:00] <amicrawle> hydrogen
[07:00] <thanksjack> im not sure
[07:00] <amicrawle> is a nother one
[07:01] <PhilH> thanksjack, so, what's going on?
[07:01] <Pinguinito> [Toaster54] 
[07:01] <amicrawle> jack did you do that what i told you to do
[07:01] <Toaster54> yes?
[07:01] <Pinguinito> did you solve the prob?
[07:01] <Toaster54> nope
[07:01] <botxj> yeah i have Hydrogen installed too
[07:01] <thanksjack> !love > amicrawle
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about love - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <thanksjack> :)
[07:02] <amicrawle> so it helped
[07:02] <Pinguinito> did you downloaded the .debd?
[07:02] <thanksjack> oh yes, very much so
[07:02] <amicrawle> if you need help with video i do that all the time
[07:02] <amicrawle> i'm in to codecs
[07:02] <thanksjack> you win
[07:02] <thanksjack> you win the internets
[07:03] <thanksjack> now I have to make some popcorn
[07:03] <a2xm> hi all... does anyone try connecting your digital camera via usb cable to xubuntu 6.06?
[07:03] <botxj> wow, lmms is like a copycat of Fruity Loops Stuido, except that i cant afford Fruity Loops Studio
[07:03] <amicrawle> yeah
[07:03] <amicrawle> wow
[07:04] <amicrawle> i got jack to run
[07:04] <botxj> how'd ya do that amicrawle?
[07:04] <amicrawle> jack it's exe in the shell
[07:04] <amicrawle> it is in cd /usr/bin
[07:04] <thanksjack> ami, in fullscreen, why wont the progress bar go away
[07:04] <amicrawle> the do a ./jack
[07:05] <amicrawle> type g
[07:05] <amicrawle> and f for full screen
[07:05] <amicrawle> g will get rid of the dui
[07:05] <amicrawle> g will get rid of the gui
[07:05] <thanksjack> it doesn't
[07:05] <amicrawle> and g will bing is back
[07:05] <botxj> botxj@DCEBGX12:/usr/bin$ ./jack
[07:05] <botxj> bash: ./jack: No such file or directory
[07:05] <amicrawle> ask it whereis jack
[07:05] <harrisK> I have a question on ssh logging. Is there a way to keep track of all ssh activity on my machine? For example, I ssh into my computer from school a lot. (We have our own ACM lab) and say someone is able to ssh into my machine how could I log this activity?
[07:06] <botxj> botxj@DCEBGX12:/usr/bin$ whereis jack
[07:06] <botxj> jack:
[07:06] <botxj> botxj@DCEBGX12:/usr/bin$
[07:06] <thanksjack> wow, it only works until I move my mouse
[07:06] <Hor|zon> it should be logged by default somewhere
[07:06] <thanksjack> in fullscreen g does nothing
[07:06] <amicrawle> you do not have jack installed then
[07:06] <botxj> is jack the same thing as jackd?
[07:06] <harrisK> really? great I will see if I can find the log
[07:06] <amicrawle> no
[07:06] <Born_In_Xixax> hi all, just wondering: how is the bluetooth support in dapper/edgy?
[07:06] <botxj> isnt jack a CD ripper?
[07:07] <Hor|zon> ...
[07:07] <eyequeue> harrisK, try auth.log
[07:07] <Born_In_Xixax> mainly in comparison to XP (not so hot), mainly using A2DP and Headset profiles
[07:07] <amicrawle> no
[07:07] <amicrawle> jack it works 4 me
[07:07] <amicrawle> hot keys   f = fullscreen and g= gui
[07:07] <amicrawle> and back and forth
[07:08] <botxj> i'm a sudo apt-get jack then
[07:08] <amicrawle> yep
[07:08] <thanksjack> i can press g then f to get to fullscreen without gui
[07:08] <eyequeue> harrisK, sudo tail -f /var/log/auth.log and in another terminal, ssh localhost :)
[07:08] <amicrawle> yep
[07:08] <thanksjack> but the gui comes back permanently when i move my mouse
[07:08] <PhilH> thanksjack, what are you using?
[07:08] <thanksjack> totem
[07:08] <PhilH> totem?
[07:08] <botxj> even though the synaptic package manger says this "Rip and encode CDs with one command" in the description of 'jack'
[07:09] <PhilH> the gui normally disappears after a certain amount of time once you stop moving the mouse
[07:09] <xsquared> hi, how would one turn off TX checksumming with an onboard (0000:00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)) network adapter?
[07:09] <hastesaver> harrisK, look in /var/log/auth.log
[07:09] <xsquared> when i type in "sudo ethtool -K eth0 tx off", it says
[07:09] <harrisK> thanks
[07:09] <amicrawle> humm then i must have the latest then
[07:09] <xsquared> Cannot set device tx csum settings: Operation not supported
[07:09] <xsquared> any ideas?
[07:09] <eyequeue> harrisK, if you don't see activity, sudo ls -lrt /var/log | tail, and inspect the files near the end of the list with tail
[07:09] <thanksjack> I'm guessing this isn't normal
[07:09] <harrisK> I see a lot of (pam_unix) what exactly is that? pam I mean?
[07:09] <thanksjack> : /
[07:10] <amicrawle> yep
[07:10] <eyequeue> harrisK, plugable authentication method, or similar
[07:10] <sickofit> hey guys, i need help involving winmodems. anyone know anything?
[07:10] <amicrawle> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man1/jackd.1.html
[07:10] <amicrawle> here is a url for jackd
[07:10] <eyequeue> !pam
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <harrisK> Sep 13 16:13:32 localhost sshd[31031] : Failed password for invalid user Smokey from 61.135.145.204 port 40481 ssh2
[07:11] <harrisK> Sep 13 16:13:34 localhost sshd[31035] : Invalid user baseball from 61.135.145.204
[07:11] <harrisK> was that someone trying to get in?
[07:11] <PhilH> thanksjack, guessing not, do you get any interesting output if you run totem from a terminal?
[07:11] <eyequeue> looks so
[07:11] <thanksjack> how do I do that?
[07:11] <eyequeue> this is why we don't enable root :))))
[07:11] <harrisK> so if he got in he would not be able to do anything?
[07:12] <harrisK> since I am not logged as root?
[07:12] <amicrawle> how to do what
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> if he got in as a user.. he couldent do much either.
[07:12] <PhilH> open a terminal window, type totem, press enter
[07:12] <eyequeue> well, there are always "local priviledge escalation" attacks
[07:12] <eyequeue> you don't want him in as non-root either if you can help it
[07:12] <thanksjack> launches totem
[07:12] <topynate> hi again, now i'm having trouble installing xgl, i configured it according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl#head-e9df73226d918293a329768e56979d33309ffb28 but when i select it in gdm i find that nothing seems to load, so i see my mouse on a blank screen for a few seconds before i get kicked back to the login. can anyone help me?
[07:13] <hastesaver> harrisK, if he managed to succesfully log in as root (or as anyone else), it's a problem. But these bruteforcers usually don't succeed. (In fact, I think they never do, but I can't be sure of that.)
[07:13] <thanksjack> same problem
[07:13] <harrisK> wow, looks like he was running some brute force program
[07:13] <harrisK> there is every name in the book
[07:13] <amicrawle> remove totdem
[07:13] <thanksjack> reinstall it?
[07:13] <PhilH> thanksjack, is anything coming up in the terminal window?
[07:13] <amicrawle> yep
[07:13] <eyequeue> harrisK, yep, and it's an ip from china, somewhat typical
[07:13] <thanksjack> nope terminal is clean
[07:13] <botxj> omg
[07:14] <topynate> nevermind, i found #xgl to but :S
[07:14] <botxj> amicrawle: it worked i did the command "jackstart --realtime --driver=alsa --device=hw:0" and it ran
[07:14] <topynate> *bug :P
[07:14] <botxj> now i can use Om Synth
[07:14] <amicrawle> yes
[07:14] <eyequeue> harrisK, often though, they will try to bruteforce known usernames, root being a common starting point
[07:14] <hastesaver> harrisK, nothing to worry, though.
[07:14] <thanksjack> i marked it for reinstallation, same thing?
[07:14] <amicrawle> humm
[07:14] <harrisK> wow, is there someting I can do? report his ip to some ISP?
[07:15] <amicrawle> http://xinehq.de/
[07:15] <eyequeue> harrisK, in china?  good luck on that
[07:15] <hastesaver> harrisK, it's usually pointless; nothing gets done; and it's probably not even the IP of the "attacker", just the IP of a zombie Windows box. No point.
[07:16] <renato> hey ubuntu users
[07:16] <amicrawle> xine-lib did you get this
[07:16] <renato> wassup?
[07:16] <renato> i have a question to u all
[07:16] <amicrawle> shot
[07:16] <eyequeue> harrisK, one thing if you are concerned, you can block port 22 from all but certain ips that you need, like say your school lab
[07:16] <renato> what happened to gstreamer in this new version of ubuntu?
[07:16] <renato> doesn't it work anymore?
[07:16] <amicrawle> nothing
[07:16] <amicrawle> shure it does
[07:17] <eyequeue> renato, meaning edgy?  #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <amicrawle> need to reload it
[07:17] <harrisK> maybe that would be a good idea
[07:17] <renato> no, actually it's new just to me
[07:17] <renato> i mean dapper
[07:17] <harrisK> but I have a pretty tuff password so maybe I would not need to
[07:17] <hastesaver> harrisK, I've heard that setting your ssh port to something else (apart from 22) stops almost all attempts. I haven't bothered doing that, because these attempts never succeed...
[07:17] <thanksjack> ami, I did a complete removal and install
[07:17] <amicrawle> i dont use gstreamer
[07:17] <thanksjack> same thing
[07:17] <eyequeue> harrisK, basically it will cut down on the log activity :)  makes it easier to watch for real threats
[07:17] <amicrawle> what are you trying to do
[07:18] <renato> but i tried to find it in my repositories and couldn't
[07:18] <renato> i wanted to use its engine in amarok
[07:18] <amicrawle> why
[07:18] <renato> sometimes it works better than xine
[07:18] <amicrawle> ?
[07:18] <harrisK> how can I change my port from 22 to something else? is ssh default for 22? so would I have to specify such as ssh name@ip port
[07:18] <harrisK> ?
[07:18] <amicrawle> relly
[07:18] <eyequeue> harrisK, by that i mean someone from your school who has installed a keylogger
[07:18] <amicrawle> i like xine
[07:18] <renato> really] 
[07:18] <thanksjack> i tried gstream, it didnt work
[07:18] <thanksjack> and xine almost works
[07:19] <eyequeue> harrisK, ssh -p 2222 hostname
[07:19] <harrisK> I have ubuntu on my school computer too, is it possible to plant a keylogger in ubuntu?
[07:19] <amicrawle> but you need a few more libs
[07:19] <PhilH> thanksjack, gstreamer may now work since you installed all the mpg support libs
[07:19] <amicrawle> to get it all to work
[07:19] <renato> but now there's no package called gstreamer when i try to use apt
[07:19] <eyequeue> harrisK, yes, there are gardware keyloffers as wel as software
[07:19] <PhilH> thanksjack, reinstall xine-gstreamer, you know you want to ;)
[07:20] <eyequeue> harrisK, some even are little ps2 plugs between the kb and the computer
[07:20] <amicrawle> philh stop being funny
[07:20] <Commander-Crowe> I can't seem to get VMware to use the internet connection
[07:20] <Commander-Crowe> any help
[07:20] <PhilH> amicrawle, i'm very nearly not just being funny
[07:20] <amicrawle> use nat
[07:20] <harrisK> damn ok, well I will chagne the school password because a few people I know know it. I have a question though, can a brute force really work with say a password that makes no sense, many chars with mix upper+lower+numbers?
[07:21] <eyequeue> harrisK, lots of surreptitious "toys" available for sale online, if you look, then you'll know what others can buy
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> harrisK,  if ya got days and weeks to try.. and an army of zombie machines.
[07:21] <eyequeue> harrisK, yes and no
[07:21] <amicrawle> Commander-Crowe  use NAT
[07:21] <thanksjack> k, trying gstream.... again
[07:21] <Commander-Crowe> it is on NAT
[07:21] <xorl> hey guys, any of you know how to get a rounded gnome-panel?
[07:21] <amicrawle> do you have a ip?
[07:21] <xorl> i want the top left and top right of the gnome-panel IP
[07:21] <Commander-Crowe> Its through a dial up
[07:21] <eyequeue> harrisK, yes anything can be brute forced with enough effort, no it's not likely in a reasonable amount of time with a GOOD passphrase
[07:22] <amicrawle> oh shit
[07:22] <eyequeue> harrisK, one other alternative you might choose
[07:22] <amicrawle> darn
[07:22] <harrisK> so it's just a matter of time if the hacker/cracker/kiddie or whoever puts the effort in? I see, I wonder how he got my ip. I just setup a webserver but I don't think it has anything to do with it?
[07:22] <amicrawle> you can use nat  but it will take some time
[07:22] <JDSBlueDevl> help, my Ubuntu system has gone nanners!
[07:22] <PhilH> amicrawle, that doesn't sound good
[07:22] <Commander-Crowe> I've done it before
[07:23] <eyequeue> harrisK, disable password authentication, use only KEY authentication (ssh-keygen) and then carry your key on a usb stick
[07:23] <thanksjack> omfg... gstreamer works flawlessly
[07:23] <amicrawle> i have to on dial up
[07:23] <Commander-Crowe> oh ok
[07:23] <JDSBlueDevl> when trying to manually upgrade some packages, I broke some others, so then Ubuntu said I had to uninstall almost everything
[07:23] <PhilH> thanksjack :)
[07:23] <botxj> what does gstreamer do?
[07:23] <JDSBlueDevl> so I did that, then proceeded to install everything back
[07:23] <thanksjack> well that only took  5 hours
[07:23] <thanksjack> : /
[07:23] <amicrawle> never use it
[07:23] <eyequeue> harrisK, they can brute force all they like, there is no password to force ;-)
[07:23] <JDSBlueDevl> apt-getted all three desktops, then restarted
[07:23] <JDSBlueDevl> can't get a login screan
[07:23] <JDSBlueDevl> screen
[07:23] <Jeandre> Trying to get mouse buttons 4 and 5 working under 6.06. The instructions at http://www.genius-europe.com/old/service/faq/tuxmouse.htm for Suse 7.3 doesn't seem to apply: can't see /etc/X11/XF86Config. Is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[07:23] <PhilH> gstreamer provides an API for multimedia under GNOME and otherplatforms
[07:23] <wastrel> harrisK:  since root is disabled your attacker needs to know both your username and password
[07:24] <JDSBlueDevl> how do I get the login screen back?
[07:24] <botxj> PhilH: oh
[07:24] <w30> I'm trying to compile the source for a 3rd party kernel module and it's looking for a /etc/hotplug/usb directory.  Am I screwed or is there a way around that?
 gstreamer is not in my system
[07:24] <eyequeue> wastrel, those at school that know, or have a keylogger, are the threats i think
[07:24] <amicrawle> start
[07:24] <amicrawle> startx
[07:24] <amicrawle> or gdm
 and you're telling me this why?
[07:24] <eyequeue> wastrel, not the .cn host
[07:24] <amicrawle> in your user name
[07:24] <JDSBlueDevl> amicrawle, is that for me?
[07:25] <amicrawle> yes
[07:25] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[07:25] <PhilH> JDSBlueDevil, where did the login screen go?
[07:25] <eyequeue> harrisK, one very good thing came out of this, i would say
  i never use gstreamer
[07:25] <harrisK> so he can log in if he knows my user name but still cannot do anything to effect my system because he has no root access right?
[07:25] <amicrawle> what does it do
[07:25] <JDSBlueDevl> it turned into the Kubuntu flash screen from the boot
[07:25] <amicrawle> can it used in kde
 good for you
[07:25] <JDSBlueDevl> and just stays there
[07:25] <eyequeue> harrisK, um, no, if he knows your password, he can sudo
[07:25] <harrisK> ok
[07:25] <amicrawle> oh not good
[07:26] <hastesaver> harrisK, he needs your username *and* password. Or several months to brute-force your password.
[07:26] <JDSBlueDevl> no, not good at all
[07:26] <PhilH> hrm, that doesn't sound good
[07:26] <amicrawle> do a  ctrl+alt+f1 key
[07:26] <PhilH> JDSBlueDevil, is this following an update?
[07:26] <eyequeue> harrisK, i do recommend the key-only approach (edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config for that, when ready)
[07:26] <amicrawle> then you will drop off to the shell
[07:26] <harrisK> I see, how did you know he was from china? did you use some app?
[07:26] <JDSBlueDevl> no, I broke some packages, requiring me to uninstall everything
[07:26] <eyequeue> harrisK, you know the ip addy, right?
[07:26] <harrisK> I will, and thanks for the tip
[07:26] <JDSBlueDevl> got almost everything back by apt-get
[07:26] <harrisK> yes
[07:26] <eyequeue> harrisK,  whois 61.135.145.204
[07:26] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, I'm in the shell
[07:27] <amicrawle> type your user name and pass
[07:27] <JDSBlueDevl> did that
[07:27] <amicrawle> type startx
[07:27] <JDSBlueDevl> just did that, got some errors
[07:27] <JDSBlueDevl> fatal server errors
[07:27] <amicrawle> ok did you try gdm
[07:27] <JDSBlueDevl> no screen found
[07:27] <eyequeue> harrisK, the good that came out of this is, you are no longer among the naive who don't realize how hostile the open internet is, those who don't take security seriously
[07:27] <JDSBlueDevl> no, I set it up for kdm
[07:27] <amicrawle> what did you install
[07:27] <JDSBlueDevl> how do I switch to gdm?
[07:28] <JDSBlueDevl> all three desktops
[07:28] <amicrawle> just type gdm
[07:28] <harrisK> yes, never knew how easy it could be if someone has the right tools and patience
[07:29] <JDSBlueDevl> another error
[07:29] <JDSBlueDevl> I'm in xdm right now, though
[07:29] <JDSBlueDevl> it says that it failed to start the X server
[07:29] <JDSBlueDevl> and it's asking if I want to view the output to diagnose the problem
[07:29] <amicrawle> oh do'nt like that 1 @ all
[07:29] <eyequeue> harrisK, and "patience" can mean just havinf their army of zombies try, and then report any successes
[07:29] <xsquared> can anyone help me with this please? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258479
[07:29] <amicrawle> tell it shure
[07:29] <harrisK> you mean automated computer programs?
[07:30] <JDSBlueDevl> failed top load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[07:30] <amicrawle> oh nvidia
[07:30] <harrisK> by zombies?
[07:30] <amicrawle> ok
[07:30] <amicrawle> done that 1 before
[07:30] <amicrawle> my self
[07:30] <amicrawle> lol
[07:30] <eyequeue> harrisK, yeah, compromised wondows machines, often, or those in this channel who so blatantly disregard security measures
[07:30] <Homer> How do I reload X11?
[07:30] <Hmmmm> !init
[07:30] <eyequeue> "i don't have anything worth stealing on this machine" for example :((((
[07:30] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:30] <Homer> How do I reload X11/XWindows/Xfree86 whatever it is called?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Homer,  logout of X. then hit alt-ctrl-backspace
[07:31] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, so what do I do now?
[07:31] <JDSBlueDevl> obviously I need to apt-get a driver
[07:31] <eyequeue> homer_linux, xorg, xfree has been dumped :)  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:31] <theBeno> What program should I use to create virtual machine images?
[07:32] <amicrawle> ok do you have lynx
[07:32] <JDSBlueDevl> just apt-getted it
[07:32] <knixtech> where is the default mouse theme location?
[07:32] <amicrawle> yes
[07:32] <thanksjack> ami, any way to delay sound to synch with video?
[07:32] <harrisK> man, there are seriously over one hundred attempts to login to my machine. Question, what whould the log say if someone successfully logged in?
[07:32] <amicrawle> yes
[07:33] <eyequeue> harrisK, ssh localhost, then read the log to see what it looks like :)
[07:33] <abusado> ei where can i find a guide on how to dual boot a windows xp and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS??
[07:33] <abusado> ei where can i find a guide on how to dual boot a windows xp and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS??
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> abusado,  google.
[07:33] <JDSBlueDevl> ooh, I might have found something on the boards
[07:33] <hastesaver> harrisK, yes, that's the main reason to switch to keys-only or to a different port -- there's less garbage in the log file :-)
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> abusado,  and it sets it up that way by default
[07:33] <JDSBlueDevl> something about installing the nvidia drivers
[07:33] <homer_linux> eyequeue wtf?
[07:34] <amicrawle> ok
[07:34] <amicrawle> did you get lynx
[07:34] <thanksjack> how do I do it ami?
[07:34] <abusado> Dr_Willis: it sets up by default Dual Booting???
[07:34] <hastesaver> homer_linux, I think it wasn't for you, it was for a "Homer" who quit just before that message
[07:34] <eyequeue> homer_linux, i typed this:  Homer, xorg, xfree has been dumped :)  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:34] <amicrawle> it a web browser
[07:34] <jama-> Okay, im really new to the whole linux thing.. i just installed ubuntu, i have a 54 Mbps Wireless Router model WGR614 v6 on my main comp and i want to connect to that under my ubuntu system, i've asked a few people and they dont really know, here is what i got when i did the 'lspci' 'iwconfig' and 'ifconfig' commands; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23591
[07:34] <eyequeue> homer_linux, nut he had left, so the client changed it
[07:34] <knixtech> how do you change the mouse theme?
[07:34] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, I got it from apt-get (that's about the only thing working right now)
[07:34] <hastesaver> if you don't have lynx, you might have w3m or elinks
[07:34] <eyequeue> lynx (1)             - a general purpose distributed information browser for the World Wide Web
[07:34] <JDSBlueDevl> I know
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> abusado,  i said it did...  and the ubuntu guides mention this,,, and about every linux disrto out - does the exact same thing.
[07:35] <homer_linux> lol eyequeue
[07:35] <JDSBlueDevl> just finishing up installing the nvidia drivers
[07:35] <JDSBlueDevl> I'm going to try this first
[07:35] <jama-> o.o
[07:35] <knixtech> !pointer theme
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pointer theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <jama-> Anyone? :/
[07:36] <amicrawle> xine-check
[07:36] <inam> hi all... i need some help... my mouse pointer is not moving... im using an acer laptop with a touchpad... i think it happens everytime i see a video in full screen mode and then come out of full screen, my mouse doesnt move
[07:36] <amicrawle> hdparm /dev/hda
[07:36] <JDSBlueDevl> startx gives me the same error
[07:36] <hastesaver> abusado, install Windows first, then install Ubuntu
[07:36] <eyequeue> homer_linux, there's some guy whose nick starts with no, and everyone typing   no, that's wrong, gets change to nooner, that's wrong, or whatever
[07:36] <thanksjack> im using gstream
[07:36] <amicrawle> no
[07:36] <eyequeue> nomego_, see
[07:36] <harrisK> Sep 14 11:48:03 localhost sshd[562] : reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for mail3.adjoined.com failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT!
[07:36] <harrisK> what exactly does that mean? mail3?
[07:36] <amicrawle> lynx is a text webbrowser
[07:37] <amicrawle> you can get the nvidia driver still if your gui is down
[07:37] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[07:37] <JDSBlueDevl> what's the webpage?
[07:37] <eyequeue> harrisK, most likely their isp didn't set up reverse dns properly
[07:37] <harrisK> ah ok
[07:37] <amicrawle> You can enable DMA mode with the following command:
[07:37] <amicrawle>    hdparm -d1 device_of_your_drive_that_supplies_video_data
[07:37] <amicrawle>    In some cases where this fails it helps to specify the dma mode to use, for example:
[07:37] <amicrawle>    hdparm -d1 -X 66 device_of_your_drive_that_supplies_video_data
[07:37] <amicrawle>    In RedHat 8.0 an additional entry in /etc/modules.conf
[07:37] <amicrawle>    options ide-cd dma=1
[07:37] <knixtech> how do you change the pointer theme?
[07:37] <eyequeue> harrisK, nit do you really expect a mailhost to be trying to connect to your machine directly, on that port?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> knixtech,  right there under the Mouse Controlpanel  tool i think.
[07:38] <eyequeue> harrisK, i'd say it could be a spoofed host
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> knixtech,  explore all the fun settings/control panel applications :)
[07:38] <lastnode> guys, i need a webcam app that will work both in ubuntu and win32. any ideas?
[07:38] <DarkChronos> hey all
[07:38] <lastnode> hi DarkChronos
[07:38] <harrisK> so you mean someone was behind some anonymous proxy?
[07:38] <thanksjack> ami, is it possible to synch video/audio?
[07:39] <eyequeue> harrisK, the smarter ones will use "normal" sounding names, to avert suspicion
[07:39] <harrisK> ah ok
[07:39] <knixtech> Dr_Willis, I need to know where to put a theme, i am using gnome
[07:39] <DarkChronos> i was wondering if anyone can help me setup a raylink wireless card .... having alot of problems atm?
[07:39] <inam> does anyone know how i can restart my mouse driver... i think it has hanged...
[07:39] <lastnode> ekiga win32 is kind of flaky
[07:39] <lastnode> inam, restart x?
[07:39] <jama-> stupid wireless
[07:39] <eyequeue> harrisK, smtp is unliekly to be directed straight to your box, nor would it be on 22 rather than 25
[07:40] <inam> lastnode, how do i do that ?
[07:40] <lastnode> DarkChronos, what sorta problems?
[07:40] <DarkChronos> yea def
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> knixtech,  open the theme manager and drag/drop it to it.. or try the theme:// in the file manager - i tend to use that 'gnome-art' program to download/install new theme parts
[07:40] <jama-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23591
[07:40] <lastnode> inam, ctrl + alt + backspace
[07:40] <harrisK> one thing I was wondering was.. how did he find me? was it just some random ip lookup procedure? I have a webserver on my machine, could it have been obtained from there?
[07:40] <jama-> can anyone tell me the prob by going to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23591?
[07:40] <inam> lastnode, ok, let me try that
[07:40] <knixtech> ty
[07:40] <eyequeue> harrisK, some of these things become transparent with a tiny bit of thought ;-)
 i'm downloading the nvidia driver from my  text broswer
[07:40] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[07:41] <eyequeue> harrisK, could be, sure, but most likely random or a portscan of entire ip blocks
[07:41] <JDSBlueDevl> can you give me the webpage?
[07:41] <harrisK> I see
[07:41] <amicrawle> yes
[07:41] <amicrawle> www.nvidia.com
[07:41] <harrisK> so they look for people with port 22 open then usually run the brute force
[07:41] <amicrawle> type lynx
[07:41] <amicrawle> then type  G
[07:41] <inglor> hey
[07:41] <amicrawle> will open the ur;
[07:41] <theBeno> What program should I use to create virtual machine images?
[07:42] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[07:42] <amicrawle> then tyoe  nvidia.com
[07:42] <DarkChronos> well i entered into my config.opts module "ray_cs" opts "net_type=1 essid=xxxx" and my card started to look for a connection
[07:42] <jama-> arg
[07:42] <inam> lastnode, i restarted x, and i logged in again... but my mouse pointer still doesnt move... i have a laptop iwth a touchpad... i was wacthing a video in full screen mode... i think everytime i do that, the mouse pointer hangs
[07:42] <eyequeue> harrisK, depends what exploits they have on hand to try, what port they look for.  137 was popular to attack, turns out that an ms protocol so not a linux vuln, but you;d see it in logs, heheheh
[07:42] <DarkChronos> but unfortunately it was stuck in ad-hoc mode when net_type=1 is suppose to be infrastructure
[07:43] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, I'm at the website
[07:43] <DarkChronos> and when i eventually was able to put the card into infrastructure ..... it could not connect to the access point
[07:43] <eyequeue> harrisK, anyone that still has ssh protocol 1 enabled, even if not primary, is vulnerable, and there are many nox boxen out there that haven't changed their configs in forever, that still have that
[07:43] <lastnode> inam, usb mouse?
[07:44] <DarkChronos> any suggestions ??
[07:44] <amicrawle> go find the text download
[07:44] <eyequeue> harrisK, /etc/ssh/sshd_config:Protocol 2
[07:44] <amicrawle> go find the text download  driver
[07:44] <inam> lastnode, i dont have a usb mouse... i only have the touchpad... is there any way i can restart my mouse driver.... if i restart my computer, this problem usually goes away
[07:44] <eyequeue> harrisK, Protocol 2,1  if it said that instead, you'd be vulnerable
[07:45] <amicrawle> Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris Drivers
[07:45] <lastnode> inam, sorry no clue
[07:45] <amicrawle> then that link
[07:45] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, where is it downloading?
[07:45] <JDSBlueDevl> I went through it
[07:45] <inam> lastnode, thanks so much anyways :)
[07:45] <eyequeue> harrisK, debian used to default to that :(
[07:45] <JDSBlueDevl> I got to the download link
[07:45] <JDSBlueDevl> but where is it downloading?
[07:45] <inglor> I need help installing mplayer
[07:45] <inglor> does anyone feel like walking me through>
[07:45] <inglor> *?
[07:46] <epiloc> apt-get install mplayer?
[07:46] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, found it
[07:46] <inglor> can't find the package
[07:47] <inglor> neither can synaptics for some reason
[07:47] <harrisK> how can I close port 22 and use a different port for ssh? Is there a howto in the ubuntu forums?
[07:47] <epiloc> update your repo list
[07:47] <JDSBlueDevl> runnign the installation now
[07:47] <inglor> the default add/remove find a package but can't install it
[07:47] <JDSBlueDevl> oh boy, more hassles
[07:47] <inglor> so I'm just downloading it off the site meaning I have to compile and config it
[07:47] <JDSBlueDevl> legacy linux graphics drivers
[07:47] <eyequeue> harrisK, no need
[07:47] <inglor> I'm wondering if anyone here can help me with that
[07:47] <eyequeue> harrisK, # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for
[07:48] <JDSBlueDevl> RIVA TNT2 Model 654/Model 65 Pro GPU
[07:48] <eyequeue> harrisK, edit your sshd_config, then /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[07:48] <amicrawle> what card do you have
[07:48] <JDSBlueDevl> I guess that
[07:48] <epiloc> ok, well I got my .com working on my LAN, but still not propogating to the outside world
[07:48] <inglor> so someone willing to help please PM me
[07:48] <eyequeue> harrisK, it's also where you enable keys and disable passwords
[07:48] <JDSBlueDevl> well, it seems like it's going to install anyways
[07:48] <JDSBlueDevl> is it a good idea, or should I abort?
[07:48] <amicrawle> humm
[07:49] <amicrawle> ok
[07:49] <harrisK> great, I really appreciate all the help eyequeue
[07:49] <JDSBlueDevl> nvm, it decided to quit
[07:49] <eyequeue> harrisK, also, if you leave pam in that file, edit /etc/pam.d/ssh too
[07:49] <epiloc> its been 4 days since i changed the A records to point to my static IP, but its still not coming through...  router is configured perfectly... any ideas?
[07:49] <amicrawle> ok
[07:50] <harrisK> what is pam again?
[07:50] <eyequeue> harrisK, sure thing, anything to make people more secure :-)
[07:50] <amicrawle> i'm off to bed
[07:50] <eyequeue> pluggable authentication modules
[07:50] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, thx anyways
[07:50] <inglor> pfft
[07:51] <inglor> all I find is kmplayer
[07:51] <inglor> and not mplayer
[07:51] <cablesm102> I know that Amarok has come out with version 1.4, which supports AAC, but can't find it in the repositories
[07:52] <nu> d
[07:52] <nu> hello?
[07:52] <indref> Ok! I have a FAQ! ^^
[07:52] <eyequeue> !info amarok edgy
[07:52] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 14336 kB, installed size 31192 kB
[07:52] <nu> hey
[07:52] <eyequeue> !info amarok
[07:52] <indref> Anyone want to help a noob? :D
[07:52] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[07:52] <inglor> !mplayer
[07:52] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[07:52] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:52] <nu> i still need help with dual monitors
[07:52] <eyequeue> cablesm102, it will be there late october
[07:53] <Hor|zon> it's in the kubuntu repos already isn't it?
[07:53] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, no
[07:53] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, ther are no separate kubuntu repos
[07:53] <cablesm102> I'm using Ubuntu
[07:53] <Hor|zon> I got the repo off of the kubuntu website and used apt-get to get 1.4
[07:53] <cablesm102> same repos, i believe
[07:53] <cablesm102> can only see 1.3
[07:53] <gili> is ther a way to get the skytone USB phone to work with skype
[07:53] <eyequeue> cablesm102, that is correct
[07:53] <cablesm102> so any ideas?
[07:54] <Hor|zon> cablesm102, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php
[07:54] <cablesm102> I have craploads of m4a's I just made with QTFairUse :)
[07:54] <cablesm102> thanks
[07:54] <nu> there is a way to activate the second monitor, by adding a few lines to the xorg.conf file
[07:54] <x_or> Does anyone know how to enter special characters, like you would find in Portuguese, into an app like Mozilla?
[07:54] <nu> someone told me once.....but i don't remember
[07:54] <eyequeue> cablesm102, you might try an apt-get -b source amarok, with edgy deb-src lines NOT deb lines
[07:54] <eyequeue> cablesm102, i can walk you through the handful of commands, if you are into that
[07:55] <cablesm102> thanks
[07:55] <cablesm102> that would be great
[07:55] <jama-> can anyone help me?
[07:55] <cablesm102> should I remove amarok first?
[07:55] <eyequeue> cablesm102, you know how to edit sources.list?
[07:55] <cablesm102> yep
[07:55] <eyequeue> cablesm102, no need
[07:55] <TheCobra> hi there
[07:55] <cablesm102> want to IM?
[07:55] <epiloc> hey Hor|zon, got the apache server working on my lan :)
[07:55] <gili> i was given this USB web phone....ubuntu picks it up as a proper audio device but i want to interface it with skype
[07:55] <TheCobra> can somebody helps me out here with my brother printer, can't get it working
[07:55] <Hor|zon> epiloc? ah can'tapache-somethign or other
[07:55] <gili> the program it comes with wont load up with wine?
[07:56] <eyequeue> cablesm102, okay, put in a deb-src (again, NOT deb) line for edgy main
[07:56] <epiloc> Hor|zon, yes
[07:56] <gili> does anyone know how to solve this
[07:56] <gili> ?
[07:56] <gili> please?
[07:56] <eyequeue> cablesm102, then sudo apt-get update
[07:56] <cablesm102> wait
[07:56] <cablesm102> can you tell me the line to put in?
[07:56] <eyequeue> cablesm102, then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:56] <cablesm102> eyequeue, can you tell me the line?
[07:56] <epiloc> Hor|zon, but still cant get to the site from outside my lan : /
[07:56] <harrisK> eyequeue, after restarting ssh I got a few (could not load host key) but it says OK at the bottom, did that go ok?
[07:56] <cablesm102> (for sources.list
[07:57] <wlx> #join ubuntu-cn
[07:57] <eyequeue> cablesm102, deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main
[07:57] <Hor|zon> hmmm
[07:57] <eyequeue> harrisK, i believe so
[07:57] <cablesm102> eyequeue, thanks
[07:57] <eyequeue> cablesm102, then sudo apt-get update    to have that take effect
[07:57] <cablesm102> okay
[07:57] <cablesm102> can i use aptitude?
[07:58] <eyequeue> cablesm102, i suggest not
[07:58] <cablesm102> k
[07:58] <eyequeue> cablesm102, then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:58] <cablesm102> k
[07:58] <VR_> how do i delete a "thumbs.db" file in all subdirectories through the terminal?
[07:58] <eyequeue> cablesm102, then sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[07:59] <harrisK> nmap still reveals port 22 open and I can still login with ssh on port 22 :/ I changed the port in sshd_config then restarted ssh in /etc/init.d but maybe something small is in the way
[07:59] <eyequeue> cablesm102, now you are set up to do the real building
[07:59] <cablesm102> eyequeue, I'm still on the installing packages step
[07:59] <gili> so can anyone help me with this problem....the USB web phone?
[08:00] <eyequeue> cablesm102, mkdir ~/amarok-build && cd ~/amarok-build
[08:00] <eyequeue> cablesm102, okay
[08:00] <cablesm102> eyequeue, if I install amarok this way, will I be able to update it?
[08:01] <eyequeue> sure
[08:01] <cablesm102> sudo apt-get build-dep amarok says libtunepimp3-dev cannot be found
[08:01] <Hor|zon> epiloc, you still there?
[08:01] <eyequeue> cablesm102, okay, we tried, that may be edgy only
[08:01] <cablesm102> okay
[08:01] <cablesm102> thanks anyway
[08:02] <epiloc> yep
[08:02] <eyequeue> !info libtunepimp3-dev edgy
[08:02] <ubotu> libtunepimp3-dev: MusicBrainz tagging library -- development files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.2-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 1372 kB
[08:02] <eyequeue> !info libtunepimp3-dev dapper
[08:02] <ubotu> Package libtunepimp3-dev does not exist in dapper
[08:02] <harrisK> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[08:02] <epiloc> Im at a complete loss for words here ...
[08:02] <cablesm102> will 1.4 come out for Dapper at all?
[08:02] <harrisK> that should do it right?
[08:02] <eyequeue> cablesm102, no
[08:02] <Hor|zon> try putting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23596 in your apache2.conf
[08:02] <rowanjl> ahk, has anyone here had to get an LCD screen with a blown globe repaired?
[08:02] <cablesm102> how come?
[08:02] <Hor|zon> near the bottum wit the similar looking stuff
[08:02] <Hor|zon> just fill in your info
[08:02] <Hor|zon> bottom*
[08:02] <eyequeue> cablesm102, it froze back in, fmm, march?  feb?
[08:03] <cablesm102> got it
[08:03] <cablesm102> i guess i'll wait for edgy :)
[08:03] <eyequeue> cablesm102, edgy just had the feature freeze and it comes out late oct
[08:03] <Hor|zon> it's from the apache2.conf sehkl or whatever his name was posted earlier
[08:03] <harrisK> eyequeue, sorry, i got it to work, forgot the sudo last time :D
[08:03] <cablesm102> Will amarok 1.4 be in the repos?
[08:03] <eyequeue> harrisK, heh, happens :)
[08:03] <eyequeue> cablesm102, yes, it is already in edgy
[08:04] <eyequeue> !info amarok edgy
[08:04] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 14336 kB, installed size 31192 kB
[08:04] <indref> Does anyone know what's up with the backports?
[08:04] <cablesm102> ok, thanks for your help.
[08:04] <eyequeue> cablesm102, sorry it didn't work
[08:04] <Hor|zon> there s already a repo for it for kubuntu...I gave you the link
[08:04] <indref> And.. does anyone know why I even need them :/
[08:05] <indref> I'm just kinda blundering through the to do list i found and I'm a little lost.
[08:05] <Hor|zon> I think you need them if you want up to date stuff instead of boring stock versions
[08:05] <Hor|zon> I just enable everything...never actually thought about it
[08:06] <indref> Well, I'm getting an error from the backports, they don't work.
[08:06] <indref> And I want to know how much of a problem that is going to be.
[08:06] <indref> If any/.
[08:06] <Hor|zon> lol
[08:06] <Hor|zon> what error?
[08:07] <indref> Could not download all repository indexes
[08:07] <indref> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[08:07] <indref> Etc etc etc
[08:07] <Hor|zon> works for me...what url is it trying to use?
[08:08] <indref> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[08:08] <indref> Yay for gibberish :D
[08:09] <JoseStefan> indref, you don't "need" backports. Backports are edgy packages backported for dapper
[08:09] <indref> 'Edgy'?
[08:09] <indref> Would they steal my wallet and stab me in a dark alley?
[08:10] <eyequeue> !edgy
[08:10] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:10] <indref> Ahh. Hoary, Breezy, Dapper, Edgy is next!
[08:10] <epiloc> Hor|zon, still works on LAN, but now has errors when i restart apache
[08:10] <Hor|zon> what errors?
[08:11] <eyequeue> don't forget poor warty warthog
[08:11] <indref> Sooo, I should really just wait for Edgy to come out, right?
[08:11] <Hor|zon> it comes out late october earliest
[08:11] <Hor|zon> so not really
[08:12] <eyequeue> unless you like daily breakage
[08:12] <Hor|zon> daily breakage is fun...you get to bitch on the forums
[08:12] <eyequeue> see /list #ubuntu+1
[08:12] <indref> I just want to keep my system working.
[08:12] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, you presume he can get it fixed on his own
[08:12] <Hor|zon> stick with dapper then
[08:12] <Hor|zon> lol heh
[08:12] <indref> I'm happy to stick to security updates.
[08:12] <eyequeue> indref, definnitely wait then
[08:12] <Hor|zon> it's fun learning how to fix things
[08:12] <epiloc> [Sat Sep 16 01:11:12 2006]  [error]  (EAI 2)Name or service not known: Cannot resolve host name <*.*.*.*> --- ignoring!
[08:12] <epiloc> Warning: DocumentRoot [</var/www>]  does not exist
[08:12] <epiloc> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[08:13] <indref> One last problem: a tiny one.
[08:13] <Hor|zon> it helps your debugging skills
[08:13] <indref> I accidentally doubled up on my repositories..
[08:13] <Hor|zon> lol remove the <>
[08:13] <indref> Now I have two or three duplicates, and I get errors. With Synaptic. Any suggestions?
[08:13] <Hor|zon> they were just telling you where to put stuff
[08:13] <Hor|zon> >.>
[08:14] <JoseStefan> !source-o-matic
[08:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:14] <indref> Oooh, shiney.
[08:14] <eyequeue> indref, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, fix the file, then sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <indref> "fix the file"
[08:14] <indref> That's the part I'm stuck on.
[08:14] <eyequeue> indref, you added extras, just remove them
[08:15] <JoseStefan> or get a new file from the source-o-matic and copy it over
[08:15] <indref> Hmm, give me a moment.
[08:15] <epiloc> Hor|zon, you actually have to keep some of the <>, but i know what you mean :)
[08:15] <eyequeue> indref, isn't that simple enough?
[08:15] <harrisK> does anyone know if irssi by default logs chats? there was some very helpful info here that I wanted to save
[08:15] <indref> eyequeue, yeah, actually :D
[08:16] <epiloc> Hor|zon, now im down to blake@zserver:/etc/apache2$ sudo apache2ctl restart
[08:16] <epiloc> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[08:16] <Hor|zon> 127.0.1.1?
[08:17] <epiloc> its defaulting to local host i guess...
[08:17] <epiloc> not sure why
[08:17] <Hor|zon> wtf is that?localhost is 127.0.0.1
[08:17] <eyequeue> harrisK, if not, you can do this command, then paste it all into somewhere? :)
[08:17] <Hor|zon> not 1.1
[08:17] <Hor|zon> >.>
[08:17] <eyequeue> harrisK, /lastlog eyequeue   or some other keyword
[08:18] <Hor|zon> and yeah 127.0.0.1 is not a "fully qualified domain name" you can ignore that error
[08:18] <wd3> i ran nautilus for a sec and my xfce desktop disappeared, @term i typed xfdesktop and xfce came back but my right click menu is gone. help.
[08:18] <Hor|zon> it'll still work
[08:18] <harrisK> awesome, thanks :P
[08:19] <epiloc> let me see then...
[08:19] <eyequeue> harrisK, /help log, ot something, i think you can turn on a temp logfile, then /lastlog, then turn it off
[08:19] <weakwire> hi i followd the guide here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 but vmware server keep loading in the boot process
[08:19] <epiloc>  nope
[08:19] <eyequeue> harrisK, i'm not in irssi at the moment, sorry, this is from memory
[08:19] <epiloc> Hor|zon, check your pm
[08:19] <harrisK> thats fine, at least it got it all together where I can just copy if needed. I appreciate all the help
[08:20] <Hor|zon> pm?
[08:20] <epiloc> private message?
[08:20] <Hor|zon> I don't have one
[08:20] <Hor|zon> >_<
[08:20] <Hor|zon> never got one
[08:21] <eyequeue> harrisK, np
[08:21] <Hor|zon> from you
[08:21] <weakwire> should i edit K??vmware to k??vmware in all /etc/rc?.d dirs?
[08:21] <epiloc> pm me
[08:21] <kryptoz_> Hi all
[08:21] <eyequeue> weakwire, why? no
[08:21] <epiloc> strange ...
[08:21] <kryptoz_> can anyone help me with the pptp vpn conection from ubuntu
[08:21] <kryptoz_> please
[08:22] <weakwire> eyequeue,  i edited K??vmware in /etc/rc0.d and in /etc/rc6/d into k??vmware
[08:22] <weakwire> but it keeps loading in the boot proccess
[08:22] <kryptoz_> pptp .... ? anyone ..... ?
[08:23] <eyequeue> weakwire, don't change the filenames, change them back and sudo chmod -x them
[08:23] <epiloc> Hor|zon, are you still not getting them?
[08:23] <Hor|zon> yup, still nothing
[08:23] <epiloc> what the hell is the command to whisper someone?
[08:23] <epiloc> this is retarded
[08:23] <Hor|zon>  /msg
[08:23] <Hor|zon>  /msg Hor|zon ??
[08:24] <hastesaver_> epiloc, what are you trying?
[08:24] <Hor|zon> pm me
[08:24] <weakwire> hmmm right point of view but i told you i followed the how-to .should i change into in rc0.d and rc6.d only?
[08:24] <epiloc> just did
[08:24] <Hor|zon> didn't get anything
[08:24] <Hor|zon> =_=
[08:24] <weakwire> *into non executable
[08:25] <Hor|zon> epiloc, you got my message right?
[08:25] <epiloc> omg i hate xchat
[08:25] <ClayG> anyone know of an email client that functions similar to thunderbird but for the cLI something i can just apt and roll?
[08:25] <epiloc> why the hell cant i /msg anyone
[08:25] <Hor|zon> lol xchat is alright as long as you stay away from gnome-xchat
[08:25] <jesu1> hello
[08:26] <jesu1> i have a problem when i try to open firefox
[08:26] <jesu1> Error de lectura XML: entidad no definida
[08:26] <jesu1> Ubicacin: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
[08:26] <jesu1> Nmero de lnea 1140, columna 9:        <toolbarbutton id="go-button"
[08:26] <jesu1> --------^    <menuitem id="menu_HelpPopup_reportPhishingtoolmenu"
[08:26] <jesu1> ----^
[08:26] <kryptoz_> ClayG: pine
[08:26] <ClayG> or a tabbed webbrowser for the cli
[08:26] <epiloc> Hor|zon browse to my ip and see if my website pops
[08:26] <eyequeue> Hor|zon, the only thing in edgy :(
[08:26] <ClayG> pine can just be apt'ed and ran withoutn setting up a MTA?
[08:26] <kryptoz_> exim4
[08:26] <ClayG> thoe both are stand alones?
[08:26] <eyequeue> ClayG, just use mutt, pine is very non-free, and mutt is better anyway
[08:27] <ClayG> mutt needs a MTA i think
[08:27] <eyequeue> ClayG, no
[08:27] <ClayG> so i can just install, plug in my account info and roll?
[08:27] <eyequeue> ClayG, sure, config it as you like
[08:27] <Hor|zon> epiloc, nothing
[08:27] <jesu1> please help me
[08:27] <Hor|zon> just "connecting"
[08:28] <Hor|zon> forever
[08:28] <epiloc> bah, why must this be so difficult
[08:28] <ClayG> aight lemme give it a shot
[08:28] <ClayG> anything better than centericq for command line IM'ing?
[08:28] <eyequeue> ClayG, btw, you will never find pine in the repos, heh
[08:28] <eyequeue> !info pine
[08:28] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in any distro I know
[08:28] <ClayG> and what about a tabbed browser for the command line?
[08:28] <ClayG> iq?
[08:28] <Hor|zon> maybe try the domain name?
[08:28] <Hor|zon> =_=
 Package pine does not exist in any distro I know
[08:28] <ClayG> yes, i saw that
[08:28] <Hor|zon> lol why can't you pm?
[08:28] <Hor|zon> annoying...
[08:28] <eyequeue> ClayG, no such beast, run lynx under screen(1)
[08:29] <ClayG> ouch
[08:29] <Hastesaver> epiloc, what are you trying?
[08:29] <ClayG> i was going that rought with w3m
[08:29] <eyequeue> !msg
[08:29] <jesu1> can anyone helpme please?
[08:29] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[08:29] <epiloc> apache is running, can see the website on my lan, router is forwarding port 80 to the right machine, and i changed the ip that yahoo directs to my static ip almost a week ago
[08:29] <rm_you> ClayG: naim?
[08:29] <ClayG> i guess it s a good way, screen isa monster
[08:29] <epiloc> trying to host a simple web site
[08:29] <ClayG> naim?
[08:29] <ClayG> hmmm
[08:29] <ClayG> does it work like gaim?
[08:29] <epiloc> and it is becoming rediculous
[08:29] <eyequeue> or maim :)
[08:29] <rm_you> lol
[08:29] <ClayG> centericq is good but it looks like it only lets one account per protocol/service
[08:29] <ClayG> i have multiple
[08:30] <rm_you> possibly, check it out, I dont use it too much
[08:30] <eyequeue> !info naim
[08:30] <ubotu> naim: A console client for AOL Instant Messenger and IRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.8-1 (dapper), package size 187 kB, installed size 480 kB
[08:30] <rm_you> I just know it was pretty cool the one time I broke my xserver for a week ;P
[08:30] <ClayG> epiloc: you need a host?
[08:30] <eyequeue> !info amsn
[08:30] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[08:30] <ClayG> I got some space if you want
[08:30] <Hor|zon> he's hosting it himself
[08:30] <skold> jesu1: you have installed a broken theme or extension
[08:30] <rm_you> !info centericq
[08:30] <ubotu> centericq: A text-mode multi-protocol instant messenger client. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.21.0-10 (dapper), package size 1200 kB, installed size 2968 kB
[08:30] <ClayG> cool, so naim is kinda like centericq but more limited
[08:31] <eyequeue> irssi rocks under screen(1)
[08:31] <rm_you> i suppose
[08:31] <ClayG> im looking for something like centericq but, lets say you had two aim names and wanted to be on both at the dsame time
[08:31] <ClayG> and eyequeue i agree
[08:31] <rm_you> eyequeue: yes, especially with the coding theme they have on their front page right now ;P
[08:31] <ClayG> im using that now
[08:31] <epiloc> ClayG, its nice of you to offer, but i was hoping to do it myself, I cant believe its not working :(
[08:31] <ClayG> jusdt cant remember how to close screens, i thought it was /close
[08:31] <ClayG> epiloc: if u change your mind admin@hostdestroyer.com
[08:32] <epiloc> it seems as if EVERYTHING is correct... maybe my ISP hates me
[08:32] <eyequeue> ClayG, /help for the overall list i think :)
[08:32] <ClayG> i know /part works but what about pm's
[08:32] <epiloc> ClayG, thanks, will do
[08:32] <jesu1> hello i have a problem
[08:32] <jesu1> see this
[08:32] <jesu1> i openend in popup
[08:32] <jesu1> when i try to open firefox
[08:32] <ClayG> hahaha eyequeue you forgot "man irssi" and "google is your freind"
[08:32] <ClayG> lol
[08:32] <jesu1> Error de lectura XML: entidad no definida
[08:32] <jesu1> Ubicacin: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
[08:32] <jesu1> Nmero de lnea 1140, columna 9:        <toolbarbutton id="go-button"
[08:32] <jesu1> --------^    <menuitem id="menu_HelpPopup_reportPhishingtoolmenu"
[08:32] <jesu1> ----^
[08:32] <ClayG> just messing with you
[08:32] <skold> jesu1: start firefox with -safe-mode
[08:32] <eyequeue> ClayG, lol :P
[08:32] <jesu1> how?
[08:33] <GNAM> where's KNOT 3 announce?
[08:33] <ClayG> aight lemme drop out and install mutt
[08:33] <skold> jesu1: type firefox -safe-mode in the terminal
[08:33] <ClayG> i think i tried it before and it needed extra shit
[08:33] <ClayG> but not sure, lesse
[08:33] <jesu1> dont works
[08:33] <jesu1> same error
[08:33] <eyequeue> ClayG, i did spend a day in /help learning at one point, irssi became even more impressive that day
[08:33] <Hor|zon> epiloc, paste your apache2.conf on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:33] <Hor|zon> censor the bits you want to
[08:33] <ClayG> nice, i'll give it a shot, since im in the opffice i guess now is a good time to use that laser printer!
[08:34] <Raj-USA> HiveChild, i wanted to know something. I'm currently running XGL and each time i happen to mistakenly press SHIFT-BACKSPACE ( while correcting myself ), X shuts down. Anyway to change the hotkey?
[08:34] <eyequeue> GNAM, it was a day late, but is out now
[08:34] <ClayG> Hor|zon: dont forget about paste.hostdestroyer.com !
[08:34] <Raj-USA> err not HiveChild
[08:34] <Hor|zon> lol
[08:34] <Raj-USA> i meant hi
[08:34] <ClayG> eyequeue: you sure mutt doens't5 require postfix to be configured also?
[08:35] <eyequeue> ClayG, i'm sure there's a dir (/usr/share/ something?) that has all the help files, if you are printing
[08:35] <ClayG> It is saying if it is not it'll be broken, i need something like thunderbird, something you install, add your account then get/send messages
[08:35] <stamina|xr7> good evening/morning all :)
[08:35] <jesu1> can anyone please helpme?
[08:35] <ClayG> yeah i thought i remembered it needed extra stuff
[08:35] <stamina|xr7> jesu1, just ask ;)
[08:35] <ClayG> hmmm thunderbird ought to come out with a cli versoin
[08:35] <Hor|zon> hmm 7:35am already...wow
[08:35] <ClayG> somethign that can work outta the boix
[08:35] <eyequeue> ClayG, somewhere in the config there is a pop3 option
[08:35] <skold> jesu1 what version you are using
[08:35] <ClayG> yeah but sending mail, can it do that or does it require a MTA?
[08:36] <eyequeue> ClayG, if you install postfix, just tell it your isp is the "smarthost" and it's all set, typically
[08:36] <stamina|xr7> hmm im guessing its possible to unload a script, correct?
[08:36] <indref> Ok!
[08:36] <eyequeue> ClayG, my noxen always require an mta anyway, due to cron, so i'm not sure
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> ClayG: sending mail requires a MTA.
[08:36] <eyequeue> boxen
[08:36] <indref> Whoever helped me: thank you :D
[08:36] <eyequeue> indref, success?
[08:36] <jesu1> the last
[08:36] <jesu1> 6.10
[08:36] <epiloc> ClayG, Hor|zon, anyone else, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23600
[08:36] <indref> eyequeue, Unbridled.
[08:37] <RogerRabb> how can I delete every file meeting the name index.html recursively in a directory and move them all to another folder?
[08:37] <eyequeue> indref, yippee
[08:37] <skold> no firefox i mean
[08:37] <indref> eyequeue, Anyway, outta here, thanks again.
[08:37] <eyequeue> RogerRabb, combination of find and mv, i'd say
[08:37] <eyequeue> np indref
[08:37] <stamina|xr7> is there any way to unload a script once its run?
[08:38] <Raj-USA> Could someone point me to a FAQ then or something on how to change a hotkey in X. Currently using XGL and SHIFT-BACKSPACE kills X, i need to get rid of it, please it gets annoying while typing.
[08:38] <damnhil> can anyone help me with my dvd playback? My gxine with libdvdread3 installed is slow and lagging
[08:38] <JoseStefan> Raj-USA, #ubuntu-xgl
[08:38] <damnhil> JoseStefan: I don't know how to fix it
[08:38] <Raj-USA> ok thanks JoseStefan
[08:39] <JoseStefan> damnhil, i dont know either :(
[08:39] <damnhil> has anyone played dvd successfully?
[08:40] <stamina|xr7> damnhil, indeed, i used the automatix installer to get all the codecs and whatnot and it works fine
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> damnhil: sure, many times.
[08:41] <Hor|zon> epiloc, your apache2.conf looks different...hmmm
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> stamina|xr7: don't recommend automatix in here.
[08:41] <damnhil> fyrestrtr stamina|xr : I can play dvd but it's lagging, not smooth. my laptop is P4. this is weird. I have DMA enabled on the dvd drive. any ideas?
[08:41] <epiloc> Hor|zon, i know, Its the most recent apache install :/
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> damnhil: all dvds?
[08:41] <epiloc> do you know what an A Record is?
[08:42] <epiloc> has anyone here ever bought a .com through yahoo?
[08:43] <epiloc> maybe their nameservers suck?
[08:43] <epiloc> im at a total loss...
[08:43] <damnhil> fyrestrtr: I tried 2 DVDs. playing a .wmv file is not slow here
[08:43] <quux> epiloc, I did.
[08:43] <epiloc> quux, who is hosting the domain?
[08:44] <quux> It was cheap ($2.99 for 2 years) and I just hosted elsewhere
[08:44] <epiloc> yeah, i remember that deal
[08:44] <epiloc> what ip's did you change in the control panel?
[08:45] <quux> Hrm, I changed the nameservers to zoneedit, then hosted in a webhosting account I already had
[08:46] <epiloc> quux, if i leave the nameservers to yns1.yahoo.com or whatever it is, and then change the A-Records (?) to my static ip at home, startup apache, am i good to go?
[08:46] <quux> epiloc: I *think* so. Not sure, 'cause I didn't do it that way
[08:47] <epiloc> right...
[08:47] <epiloc> did you change those A-records at all?
[08:47] <quux> zoneedit is free for less than 5 domains, and it's a nice control panel util they have.
[08:47] <quux> No. I just told yahoo to change my ns to zoneedits nameservers
[08:47] <BigMac__> hey guys i am going to install Live in a min if i have trouble do you think you guys can help
[08:47] <BigMac__> ?
[08:48] <stamina|xr7> BigMac__, im sure ;)
[08:49] <BHSPitMonkey> hey guys
[08:49] <BigMac__> lol
[08:49] <epiloc> quux, ok... so hear me out real quick-  I can type in my .com in any machine on my local network and it works, but when try it from my neighbors comp, it doesnt load the page
[08:49] <BHSPitMonkey> I really need to know how to get this usb storage device mounted as a normal user.
[08:49] <BigMac__> ok well i am going to do it on my desktop and I am on my PC now
[08:49] <BigMac__> so if you think you can it should go smooth
[08:50] <epiloc> and of course the router is forwarding port 80 to my apache box...
[08:50] <epiloc> so yahoo ftl?
[08:50] <BHSPitMonkey> because it's pretty unacceptable for a high calibur distro to require me to mount a PSP in a terminal, or run nautilus as root (oh my.)
[08:50] <Hastesaver> epiloc, and your system is configured to listen to connections from outside?
[08:50] <quux> epiloc: and you already setup the A-records on yahoo?
[08:51] <Hastesaver> BHSPitMonkey, usually, just plugging in the USB device works :-)
[08:51] <epiloc> Hastesaver, the ports.conf file is listening to port 80 by default, do i need to change something else?
[08:51] <epiloc> quux, yes- to my static ip at hom
[08:51] <BHSPitMonkey> Hastesaver, usually, but seemingly not with all devices.
[08:51] <epiloc> home
[08:52] <quux> epiloc, what OS is the neighbor running?
[08:52] <Hor|zon> epiloc, remove all that virtualhost stuff you just added to apache2.conf and create a file with this in it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23601 in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ like before and create a systemlink
[08:52] <BHSPitMonkey> Hastesaver, iPod yes, PSP no... trying to mount it with a right-click in Computer gives me the pmount error. have to be super user.
[08:52] <epiloc> quux, wingay
[08:52] <epiloc> Hor|zon, god not that again
[08:52] <Hmmmm> how do i start ubuntu in in text mode? i cant find an /etc/inittab file
[08:52] <Hor|zon> it seems that it the proper way with the new apache
[08:52] <Hor|zon> lol
[08:53] <quux> epiloc, have him do an ipconfig /flushdns, the close and reopen his browser. He may have cached an old DNS record
[08:53] <BHSPitMonkey> I can right-click mount it in nautilus as root, too, Hastesaver, but then I have to stay as root to modify the files.
[08:53] <Alucard> leet d00ds, what's a good torrent program for linux?
[08:53] <BHSPitMonkey> azureus
[08:53] <BHSPitMonkey> if you don't mind java
[08:53] <epiloc> Hor|zon, that seems to be aimed at servers that host more than 1 domain at a time
[08:53] <Alucard> oh good ol' java
[08:53] <Madpilot> Alucard, the one that comes with Gnome seems to work nicely
[08:54] <epiloc> quux, ill be honest, im just using my neighbors wireless to test it :)
[08:54] <Alucard> took me to an hour to get java working yesterday.
[08:54] <anmar> Hello guys.
[08:54] <anmar> is this the ubuntu help channel ?
[08:54] <Alucard> I didn't know one came with gnome?
[08:54] <Hastesaver> BHSPitMonkey, I think you have to set up an entry for it in /etc/fstab, and then you can mount it as normal user. I don't know the details, though :-)
[08:54] <Madpilot> anmar, it is
[08:54] <Hor|zon> well your domain resolves to the right address
[08:54] <DaveyJ> which is more reliable? ext3 or jfs?
[08:54] <Hor|zon> so it must be apache or your firewall
[08:54] <quux> Anyway. I installed ubuntu, and it's workin' great on my Thinkpad T42, but for one thing. both wired and wireless (atheros AR5212abg) get ip from the same dhcp server. wired works fine, wireless can't ping anything, getting dest unreach messages.
[08:55] <Madpilot> Alucard, click on a .torrent file in Firefox, that should start the default BT client app
[08:55] <BHSPitMonkey> Hastesaver, I'm not trying to get help on doing this myself... I'm trying to make the point that this isn't acceptable for ubuntu
[08:55] <Alucard> i'll try that, thanks.
[08:55] <anmar> Madpilot: sweet. Looking for helo with an intel 945 and 1680x1050 resolution .
[08:55] <epiloc> Hor|zon, did you whois my .com?
[08:55] <Madpilot> BHSPitMonkey, have you filed a bug about this mounting issue, or checked to see if anyone else has? bugs.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <Hor|zon> yeah
[08:56] <Hor|zon> and a ping shows it's trying to ping the right ip
[08:56] <Hor|zon> the ip in the apache2.conf you posted
[08:56] <BHSPitMonkey> Madpilot, I was about to.
[08:56] <epiloc> yeah
[08:56] <Hor|zon> so it's apache
[08:56] <epiloc> so yahoo isnt the problem
[08:56] <epiloc> its either my apache or router
[08:56] <Hor|zon> do the sites-available and system liink thing like I said
[08:56] <Hor|zon> >.>
[08:56] <Hor|zon> lol
[08:57] <epiloc> jesus... is that file copy and paste?
[08:57] <Hor|zon> yeah
[08:57] <epiloc> or do i need to find that dumbass tutorial again
[08:57] <Hor|zon> i added the details
[08:57] <Hor|zon> noI just used the default apache2 exacmple and edited it a bit
[08:57] <Hor|zon> with your info and remove some seemlingly useless stuff
[08:58] <epiloc> ok, so make a file in ~/sites-available/<anything goes here> and then symlink it to /sites-enabled?
[08:59] <epiloc> Hor|zon, ?
[08:59] <Hor|zon> system link it to a copy inside sites-enabled yes
[09:00] <Hor|zon> ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/yourdomain.com /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/yourdomain.com
[09:00] <sovieticool> i need help i want to install dc++ from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378 but when ask me to install kernel headers.kernel headers i don't know what to install from synaptic :)
[09:00] <stamina|xr7> anyone know how to unload a script after its been run?
[09:01] <harrisK> does anyone know what port 631 is open for?
[09:01] <harrisK> why^
[09:01] <harrisK> I use apache and ssh but neither use that port
[09:02] <Hor|zon> google is your friend
[09:02] <Hor|zon> "internet pringint protocol"
[09:02] <Hor|zon> or something
[09:02] <Hor|zon> printing*
[09:02] <stamina|xr7> port 631 is for internet printing
[09:02] <mutk> harrisK, That is for Cups daemon
[09:02] <stamina|xr7> haha
[09:03] <mutk> harrisK, /etc/services will tell you common associations..
[09:04] <unfknblvbl> I can use konquerer to explore the internet fine, but when i startup firefox i cannot explore the net ?
[09:04] <harrisK> ok thanks, I was also able to find something on that just now. how was it opened? I just noticed that port open today, before that I only had two ports open which I was aware of
[09:04] <unfknblvbl> what would i ahve to change/download/install to get it working ?
[09:04] <stamina|xr7> unfknblvbl, are you using a proxy?
[09:05] <unfknblvbl> no
[09:05] <mutk> harrisK, IPP capable printers and cups daemons can announce their capabilities by broadcasts. If you have UDP port 631 open then cups will most likely detect IPP printers on the network from the announcements.
[09:05] <unfknblvbl> i am using no proxy
[09:05] <Alucard> Uh, my sound keeps going away, does that happen to anyone else?
[09:05] <unfknblvbl> i am connected to a broadband modem
[09:05] <sovieticool> i need help i want to install dc++ from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378 but when ask me to install kernel headers.kernel headers i don't know what to install from synaptic :)
[09:05] <unfknblvbl> and then connected straight to 512
[09:05] <unfknblvbl> i have not changed ANY settings
[09:05] <epiloc> Hor|zon, ...
[09:05] <epiloc> Hor|zon, NameVirtualHost 68.105.230.129
[09:05] <epiloc> <VirtualHost 68.105.230.129:80>
[09:05] <epiloc>         ServerAdmin webmaster@localhost
[09:05] <epiloc>         ServerName blakepender.com
[09:05] <epiloc>         ServerAlias blakepender.com *.blakepender.com
[09:05] <epiloc>         DocumentRoot /var/www
[09:05] <epiloc>         <Directory />
[09:05] <epiloc>                 Options FollowSymLinks
[09:05] <harrisK> ok so if I close that port I basically will not be able to print via a network printer? or am I all wrong here
[09:05] <epiloc>                 AllowOverride None
[09:05] <epiloc>         </Directory>
[09:05] <epiloc>         <Directory /var/www/>
[09:05] <epiloc>                 Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
[09:05] <Hor|zon> ? lol dont paste in here
[09:05] <epiloc>                 AllowOverride None
[09:05] <epiloc>                 Order allow,deny
[09:05] <Hor|zon> you crazy?
[09:05] <epiloc>                 allow from all
[09:05] <mutk> !paste
[09:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:05] <epiloc>                 # Uncomment this directive is you want to see apache2's
[09:06] <epiloc>                 # default start page (in /apache2-default) when you go to /
[09:06] <epiloc>                 #RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/
[09:06] <DaveyJ> which is more reliable? ext3 or jfs?
[09:06] <epiloc>         </Directory>
[09:06] <epiloc>         ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[09:06] <mutk> Where is OP's ?
[09:06] <epiloc>         <Directory "/usr/lib/cgi-bin">
[09:06] <epiloc>                 AllowOverride None
[09:06] <epiloc>                 Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
[09:06] <Hor|zon> oi epiloc...leave the chan and rejoin
[09:06] <ootput> how would I update mdadm if my /root partition lies on a raid array?
[09:06] <epiloc>                 Order allow,deny
[09:06] <epiloc>                 Allow from all
[09:06] <Alucard> Does anyone's sound keep not working? cuz i keep having to reboot
[09:06] <epiloc>         </Directory>
[09:06] <epiloc>         ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
[09:06] <ootput> installation never seems to complete
[09:06] <epiloc>         # Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,
[09:06] <epiloc>         # alert, emerg.
[09:06] <epiloc>         LogLevel warn
[09:06] <epiloc>         CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access.log combined
[09:06] <HedgeMage> epiloc: please don't flood
[09:06] <epiloc>         ServerSignature On
[09:06] <ootput> epiloc: please clear your buffer!!
[09:06] <unfknblvbl> big file..
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[09:06] <epiloc> jesus, sorry about that
[09:06] <epiloc> wrong paste, it was a small error message i meant to paste .. :(
[09:06] <HedgeMage> epiloc: more than 4 lines or so should go to a pastebin
[09:06] <ArgentinoVLC> #ubuntu-es
[09:06] <HedgeMage> Ahh, okay :)
[09:06] <Hor|zon> lol
[09:07] <sovieticool> a simple question how do i know which kernel heaters i good for me ?
[09:07] <cabin> how do you make it so you dont have to put a name and password in everytime you start a new session?
[09:07] <sovieticool> amd64 user
[09:07] <HedgeMage> It could have been worse, you should see what my toddler's pasted when I wasn't looking ;)
[09:07] <Hor|zon> anyone know when gnome is gonna get decent copy+paste functionality?
[09:07] <sol90> what did he paste?
[09:07] <total_meltdown> sovieticool: uname -r
[09:07] <HedgeMage> sol90: the entire visible contents of three different channels into a single other channel
[09:08] <sovieticool> thank's total_meltdown
[09:08] <sol90> good god
[09:08] <HedgeMage> Glad I hadn't said anything incriminating recently!
[09:08] <Alucard> HM can anyone help with sound troubleshooting?
[09:08] <unfknblvbl> so any ide3as why firefox fails to connect whereas konquerer connects fine to the net ?
[09:08] <harrisK> Hor|zon, if I close that port I will just not be able to use a network printer right?
[09:08] <Will> What is a gui I can use to edit /etc/fstab, so my /dev/hda1 partition is mounted as /home from now on?
[09:08] <Hor|zon> yeah basically
[09:09] <harrisK> ok thanks
[09:09] <epiloc> Hor|zon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23603
[09:09] <HedgeMage> sorry, Alucard, I'm quite sleep deprived and therefore mildly braindead.  Don't trust any advice I give you before sleeping and/or caffeine ;)
[09:09] <harrisK> will, i like cream or you can use gedit
[09:09] <cabin> what i'm trying to do is make is so I dont have to put in my name and password everytime I turn on the computer
[09:09] <harrisK> nano in terminal also
[09:09] <epiloc> Hor|zon, at least the error message is different, it sounds a little more mysterious too
[09:09] <Hmmmm> how do i start ubuntu in in text mode? i cant find an /etc/inittab file
[09:10] <epiloc> and thats always fun
 whats your problem?
[09:10] <Hor|zon> epiloc, add :80 to the end of NameVirtualHost 68.105.230.129
[09:10] <ootput> how do I update mdadm when the (actve) root partition lies on a raid array?
[09:10] <epiloc> should i re link?
[09:10] <Hor|zon> no
[09:10] <Hor|zon> it's a systemlink
[09:10] <Hor|zon> it always reflects the file in sites-available
[09:11] <epiloc> ok, restarting now
[09:12] <epiloc> Hor|zon, try it
[09:12] <RogerRabb> is there a way to remove the last 5 characters of a file name without knowing the file name.. just if you know the last file characters?
[09:12] <epiloc> Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[09:12] <sovieticool> huh i need a complete tutorial to install dc++
[09:12] <sol90> can anyone recommend a free, easy to use text editor for programmers?
[09:12] <epiloc> but that shouldnt matter
[09:12] <sovieticool> can help me someone?
[09:12] <sol90> besides gedit
[09:12] <BigMac__> vi
[09:12] <RogerRabb> sol90 well what features are you after?
[09:12] <BigMac__> lol
[09:13] <Hor|zon> it's still just not doing anything
[09:13] <sol90> RogerRabb - syntax hightlighting for ruby
[09:13] <Hor|zon> are you sure it's listening
[09:13] <sol90> or for any language
[09:13] <epiloc> Hor|zon, lol, how do i check?
[09:13] <Hmmmm> !inittab
[09:13] <Hor|zon> tell me the contents of /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <RogerRabb> tried the eclipse ruby ide?
[09:13] <epiloc> listening 80 or something like that
[09:13] <epiloc> let me look
[09:14] <greennick> join #azureus-users
[09:14] <sol90> i'm actually quite new to linux .. not all that familiar with installing stuff - and my synaptic manager doesn't seem to work
[09:14] <epiloc> Listen 80
[09:14] <epiloc> thats all there is
[09:14] <Hor|zon> it must be the router/firewall then
[09:15] <stamina|xr7> RogerRabb, on the topic of editors, do you know if gedit handles java programming?
[09:15] <sol90> RogerRabb never tried eclipse ruby ide
[09:15] <stamina|xr7> RogerRabb, syntax, that is
[09:15] <RogerRabb> umm I haven't tried writing java in gedit
[09:15] <sol90> stamina - u mean syntax highlighting?
[09:15] <epiloc> Hor|zon,  its just your standard linksys router, port 80 is being forwarded to my ubuntu box... thats about all there is to it right?
[09:16] <stamina|xr7> sol90, yes
[09:16] <epiloc> Hor|zon, do i need to set up a dmz host?  well.. ive tried with and without already, so doesnt matter....
[09:16] <sol90> stamina .. then yeah it does
[09:16] <sol90> View > Highlight Mode > Sources
[09:16] <RogerRabb> I've always enjoyed writing java so much more when you have content-assist etc for libraries
[09:16] <stamina|xr7> sol90, automatically? or must you use a header or call the file .java?
[09:16] <RogerRabb> since it's so library based
[09:17] <sol90> that i haven't tried
[09:17] <stamina|xr7> RogerRabb, i agree, for my programming course i must do all my programming in pico over ssh :(
[09:17] <pip> I have downloaded a song with wget to the Desktop,but I can not find it ,why ?
[09:17] <Hor|zon> try again...the weird thing is that if it wasn't set up then you would get an error message in the browser
[09:18] <epiloc> right
[09:18] <Hor|zon> but because it just says connecting it seems to me like it's a router/dns problem
[09:18] <RogerRabb> ouch stamina|xr7.. your lecturer must be a sucker for pain
[09:18] <pip> talking with me ?
[09:18] <BigMac__> hey can i see files that are stored in NTFS using Ubuntu?
[09:19] <stamina|xr7> RogerRabb, haha indeed. ive been getting around it by sftping the files i create over to my unix account....but ive been asked to stop
[09:19] <stamina|xr7> RogerRabb, one would think they would just block the port. dumb system admins
[09:19] <Hor|zon> the fact that it just says connecting says to me that the connection just isn't getting to your comp
[09:19] <fbn> hi! ubuntu/edgy is code freeze, right? does that mean I can install it without having to worry about big changes that make me want to re-install later?
[09:19] <epiloc> Hor|zon,  this error is wierd too Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[09:19] <Hor|zon> nah that's normal
[09:19] <Hor|zon> I get that
[09:19] <Hor|zon> but it works fine
[09:19] <xorl> hmmm
[09:20] <Hor|zon> wait...
[09:20] <Hor|zon> actually...
[09:20] <epiloc> !!
[09:20] <Hor|zon> 1 sec
[09:21] <fistfullofroses> Why would you ever really need to re-install?
[09:21] <RogerRabb> yep you can BigMac__.. ntfs reading is all easy and great :)
[09:22] <fistfullofroses> Everything in Ubuntu is relatively easy and great... it just works.
[09:22] <BigMac__> sweet so i dont have to pull my mp3 files over to play them?
[09:22] <RogerRabb> correct
[09:22] <BigMac__> amazing
[09:22] <BigMac__> i am reinstalling windows and preparing to install ubuntu live
[09:23] <RogerRabb> I do the same thing actually BigMac__.. Got an ntfs drive with all my music, and just set that as my main music directory in amarok
[09:23] <BigMac__> grand
[09:23] <stamina|xr7> anyone have any luck with itunes under wine? or could someone suggest a comparable media player?
[09:23] <BigMac__> i am really excited
[09:23] <BigMac__> just waiting for damn winblows to install
[09:23] <RogerRabb> and in windows I use a ext2/3 driver from fs-driver.org to access my linux partitions
[09:25] <RMorris85> ::cricket cricket::
[09:25] <BigMac__> next time a get a PC i am building it......
[09:25] <BigMac__> i hate this installer partion thing
[09:25] <pip> BiGcaT, hi
[09:25] <stamina|xr7> BigMac__, windows or Ubuntu?
[09:26] <BigMac__> windows
[09:26] <stamina|xr7> BigMac__, ahh i agree...you will be pleased with ubuntu's
[09:26] <BigMac__> its part of the emachines installer
[09:26] <epiloc> Hor|zon, I hope you are on to something because I have jsut double checked every possbile setting and cant think of wtf is wrong
[09:26] <pip> BigMac__, can you read me ?
[09:26] <BigMac__> i have no windows disk
[09:26] <abusado> I dont know how to dual boot im a newbie for this thing
[09:26] <pip> BigMac__, can you read me ,please ?
[09:26] <abusado> i think e messed up my windows partition
[09:26] <weex> is there some reason why my firefox can't find the java plugin?
[09:27] <BigMac__> read you?
[09:27] <sovieticool> what server i must to pun to connect to aol ? (ISP) whit pppoe
[09:27] <sovieticool> ?
[09:27] <abusado> pft
[09:27] <weex> sovieticool: server to connect to aol, as in a chat transport?
[09:27] <pip> flashnet, hi,can you read me ?
[09:27] <BigMac__> pip what are you asking?
[09:28] <flashnet> yeah pip
[09:28] <sovieticool> weex is for connection only not for chat
[09:28] <RogerRabb> BigMac__ oh and ubuntu doesn't support mp3's by default due to a patent on the compression algorithm in mp3s.. It's very easy to get going though. There's a guide at umm https://help.ubuntu.com/cummunity/RestrictedFormats
[09:28] <DaveyJ> which is more reliable? ext3 or jfs?
[09:29] <BigMac__> right what about a media player?
[09:29] <weex> sovieticool: i'm just not sure why you need a server at all
[09:29] <BigMac__> it can use mp3s right?
[09:29] <RogerRabb> and whoops, that's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:30] <RogerRabb> yep, you have many choices for media players in ubuntu.. My favourite is amarok. What do you use in the windows world?
[09:30] <xorl> any of you familiar with the macs "Finder" bar
[09:30] <lupine_85> xorl: are you looking for a linux equivalent?
[09:30] <xorl> any of you know where to find the Mac OS X 'finder applet' for gnome
[09:30] <xorl> lupine_85: YES.
[09:31] <xorl> I cannot find anything.
[09:31] <lupine_85> I think the linux version would be Beagle
[09:31] <lupine_85> personally, I hate it's guts
[09:31] <xorl> ahh
[09:31] <lupine_85> IME it's a memory hog and pretty useless to boot. Still, YMMV ;)
[09:32] <Hor|zon> epiloc, you didn't edit your hosts file before did you?
[09:32] <Andre4s> I have changed gfx-card and now my X server dont like me any more. Is there any console X configure tools for ubuntu?
[09:32] <epiloc> anyone else want to take a stab at my apache anomaly
[09:32] <RogerRabb> I find beagle pretty slow too.. I end up using the gnome deskbar applet for most quick finding
[09:32] <epiloc> Hor|zon,  yes i id
[09:32] <lupine_85> I end up using slocate or find for everything ;)
[09:33] <epiloc> Hor|zon,  i reverted to what i *thought* was its original state
[09:33] <epiloc> Hor|zon, post yours so we can double check?
[09:33] <BigMac__> i mix it up
[09:33] <stamina|xr7> Andre4s, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <BigMac__> some itunes some winamp
[09:34] <xorl> lupine_85: don't think beagles exactly what I was looking for
[09:34] <Hor|zon> epiloc, you need to put ServerName blakepender.com in apache2.conf
[09:34] <Hor|zon> that should do it
[09:34] <Hastesaver> xorl if you're from Mac, you might also be interested in gdesklets
[09:34] <Hor|zon> hopefully
[09:35] <epiloc> Hor|zon, what should my hosts file look like?
[09:35] <Hor|zon> leave your hosts file =_=
[09:35] <xorl> Hastesaver: yeah, trying to find a replacement http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=34448
[09:35] <Hor|zon> I don't think you need to touch it
[09:35] <xorl> See if you look at that screenshot you'll see in his bar he has the Finder File Edit etc. etc.
[09:35] <epiloc> Hor|zon, but i already edited it
[09:35] <Hor|zon> =_= with what?
[09:35] <xorl> Just looking to replace that menu, supposed to be an applet for it
[09:36] <Hor|zon> what did you change?
[09:36] <epiloc> Hor|zon, I think its right
[09:36] <xorl> but. I have not found it, but i've seen a billion of them in screenshots.
[09:36] <epiloc> Hor|zon, can you paste yours?
[09:36] <lupine_85> can't help with gnome applets, I'm afraid - am on KDE here
[09:37] <stamina|xr7> xorl, can you show me an example, i may know what you are talking about
[09:37] <Hor|zon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23605
[09:37] <Hor|zon> Sayumi is the hostname i chose
[09:37] <Hor|zon> like username@Sayumi at the command-line
[09:37] <xorl> stamina|xr7: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=34448
[09:38] <Hor|zon> but anyways...the fully qualified domain error...all you need to do is add ServerName blakepender.com to apache2.conf I think
[09:39] <epiloc> Hor|zon, ok, no errors, give it a shot
[09:40] <user-land> hello, how can i restart the ubuntu sound server ?
[09:40] <lupine_85> which one?
[09:40] <lupine_85> esd? arts?
[09:41] <lupine_85> either way, killall <process-name> is your friend :)
[09:41] <Hor|zon> guh not working
[09:41] <user-land> i don't know, lupine_85. i have no more sound since i successfully used skype.
[09:41] <Hor|zon> at least the error is gone
[09:41] <Hastesaver> xorl are you sure that user isn't running GNOME on a Mac? Are you on a Mac?
[09:41] <epiloc> Hor|zon, Im going to restart the router and *god forbid* ubuntu as well
[09:41] <epiloc> ill brb
[09:41] <xorl> Hastesaver: it's Gnome
[09:41] <xorl> Hastesaver: I went to the official site.
[09:41] <xorl> He doesnt provide the themes.
[09:41] <xorl> Due to the art he uses.
[09:42] <xorl> (not redistributable)
[09:42] <stamina|xr7> xorl, yes but are you sure its linux?
[09:42] <xorl> Yes.
[09:42] <stamina|xr7> ahh ok
[09:42] <xorl> cause on there site,
[09:43] <BigMac__> ok guys...
[09:43] <BigMac__> calling all ubuntu masters
[09:43] <BigMac__> i am preparing to install
[09:44] <BigMac__> live 64bit
[09:44] <xorl> stamina|xr7: http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/screenshots/nix/
[09:44] <Ginks> if you get a bunch of I/O errors when trying to boot the live cd and then it goes to a black CD what's up?, any suggestions?, this is an old machine
[09:44] <Ginks> *CD = screen
[09:44] <user-land> how do e start artsd and esd again, lupine_85 ?
[09:44] <Ginks> BTW, the machine runs XP fine
[09:44] <Ginks> so I don't think it's accually the drive or anything
[09:45] <Ginks> just something with the distro
[09:45] <Ginks> sadly :(
[09:45] <mutk> Ginks, Bad CD possibly.
[09:45] <EvilGuru> I have a 50Mb boot partition and it appears to be filling up fast, do I need to manually delete old kernels?
[09:45] <xorl> http://www.deviantart.com/view/29307720/
[09:45] <xorl> stamina|xr7: that link sorry
[09:45] <stamina|xr7> haha its ok
[09:46] <Flannel> EvilGuru: yeah
[09:46] <Flannel> EvilGuru: well, package manager does it
[09:46] <daniel_ubuntu> pomoze ktos sprawa dotyczy ustawienia polaczenia internetowego wifi
[09:46] <Flannel> !pl
[09:46] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:47] <EvilGuru> so if there is not enough space then it will automatically delete the oldest kernel
[09:47] <glick> hi
[09:47] <stamina|xr7> xorl, looks to me like he just put those dropdown menus there and used that theme and  custom icons
[09:47] <xorl> hmmm
[09:47] <Flannel> EvilGuru: no, you have to manually delete them via a package manager
[09:48] <glick> the ubuntu packaging guide is pretty nice
[09:48] <Flannel> EvilGuru: but, it's just a few clicks, they automatically get removed from grub and everything
[09:48] <user-land> where is esd ?
[09:48] <newquandary> is there any way to move the beginning of a logical partition ( ext3) into free space *before* it, or resize it "leftwards" with gparted ( I'm on the live CD considering strategies after wiping my Windows partition )  :D
[09:49] <user-land> newquandary, do you have a /home partition ?
[09:50] <xorl> hmmmm
[09:50] <epiloc> Hor|zon, try it .... *prays*
[09:50] <stamina|xr7> lol hmmm
[09:50] <newquandary> user-land: Well it's a bit complex - I have several partitions including a /home for one of my two Ubuntu installs on this disc
[09:50] <Hor|zon> nope
[09:51] <Hor|zon> wait...stop apache
[09:51] <epiloc> stop it
[09:51] <epiloc> k
[09:51] <epiloc> ok, its stopped
[09:51] <Hor|zon> ok it's still doing the same thing...
[09:52] <Hor|zon> so it must be your router?
[09:52] <newquandary> The essential point is that it looks like I have to delete some partitions to make space, and that would involve at least reinstalling one system out of  two unless I can stretch the logical parts
[09:52] <epiloc> this is absolutely rediculous
[09:52] <Hor|zon> hmmm I reall ydon't get this
[09:52] <user-land> that could make it easy to reinstall ubuntu on the former windows partition, newquandary.
[09:52] <epiloc> i dunno man
[09:52] <epiloc> i would plug straight into the wall, but my ip will change
[09:53] <silverfox> anyone here have used prelink ?
[09:53] <epiloc> and my gf would get kicked off warcraft lol
[09:53] <quux> yeacch, got disconnected - if anyonme answered my query about their impressions of alien, I'd love a repeat ..
[09:53] <Hor|zon> I don't think I'm gonna be able to help =_= you might want to find someone more skilled with apache and purge/reinstall apache
[09:53] <Hor|zon> it's already 9am here and I need to sleep =_=
[09:53] <BigMac__> ok guys
[09:54] <x_O> Anyone know how to exit out of a MAN page in the terminal?
[09:54] <BigMac__> x server didnt start
[09:54] <newquandary> user-land: sure - but I would have to wipe my dapper install unless I can figure out a strategy to keep it - I only have a total of 40 G on this disc
[09:54] <user-land> sleep well Hor|zon.
[09:54] <Will> There is no alsaconf? How do I setup sound?
[09:54] <epiloc> Hor|zon, I have removed.reinstalled twice
[09:54] <pip> Will, can you hear me ?
[09:54] <Hor|zon> lol thanks user-land
[09:54] <BigMac__> no screens found
[09:54] <epiloc> but maybe ill try 1.3
[09:54] <Flannel> Hor|zon: you might try asking in #apache, they will probably be more familiar
[09:54] <Will> pip no
[09:54] <x_O> How do you escape out of a manual page?
[09:54] <newquandary> user-land: *sigh* I might have to do some serious destruction to move forward I think
[09:55] <pip> Will, Thank you
[09:55] <epiloc> Hor|zon, thanks for the help thought, i appreciate it
[09:55] <Hor|zon> heh epiloc, I mean when you find someone more skilled make sure it's a fresh --purge and install so none of the madeness we've already done will effect it
[09:55] <newquandary> x_o q for quit
[09:55] <Flannel> er, wait.  epiloc, maybe you should ;)
[09:55] <x_O> thanks
[09:55] <Hor|zon> lol Flannel
[09:55] <Flannel> epiloc: what's the problem?
[09:55] <epiloc> thats the question
[09:55] <epiloc> we dont know
[09:55] <Flannel> what are the symptoms?
[09:55] <pip> Will, I downloaded a file with wget to my Desktop ,but I can not find it unless in a terminal using command 'ls'
[09:55] <epiloc> i can view my .com from within my lan, but not outside
[09:56] <Flannel> epiloc: Sooo... its a router issue?
[09:56] <Alucard> I feel dumb, i can't seem to find how to open the bit torrent on the firefox program... ideas?
[09:56] <xorl> stamina|xr7: this is gonna be impossible to find but I am sure he just made some menus.
[09:56] <epiloc> Flannel, standard linsys setup, forwarding port 80 to my ubuntu box... thats it
[09:56] <ompaul> Alucard, have you saved the torrent to your desktop?
[09:56] <Flannel> epiloc: you sure its the right ip?
[09:57] <BigMac__> whats the best xserver driver for ati rad?
[09:57] <Will> john@bluebox:~$ aplay --list-devices
[09:57] <Will> aplay: device_list:222: no soundcards found...
[09:57] <Alucard> nop..
[09:57] <Alucard> O_O
[09:57] <epiloc> yep, ifconfig says 192.168.1.102 .. linsys is forwardsing port 80 to 192.168.1.102
[09:57] <ompaul> !ati > BigMac__
[09:57] <x_O> How would I create a file called, "e17.desktop" in the terminal? I tried 'sudo mknod' preceding the filename, but it said missing operand. I don't know any other commands. Clues? lol
[09:57] <BigMac__> !ati
[09:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <pip> BigMac__, if you got the anwser please tell me ,please
[09:57] <Alucard> epiloc are you using an actiontec? or a 2wire?
[09:57] <Flannel> epiloc: misconfigured apache shouldn't give you nothing at all, warnings or whatnot about being wrong domain, etc.  not nothing though.  check the linksys router for the ip of the machine, just to make sure
[09:57] <pip> *answer
[09:58] <epiloc> checking dhcp clients table now...
[09:58] <stamina|xr7> epiloc, have you tried using a diferent port, just to check apache?
[09:58] <ompaul> Alucard, rather than doing two lines of text can you keep it to one, saves on scrolling for others,  Save it to the desktop right click on it and choose open with bittorrent
[09:58] <stamina|xr7> port 80 forwarding on my linksys router is flaky
[09:59] <ompaul> BigMac__, I had the bot send you that in a message - please message the bot if you need something repeated
[09:59] <epiloc> well, its not on the routers client table now :(  but im obviously online ... how did that happen
[09:59] <Alucard> yeah but i already had the torrent loaded, i just had to reboot because of sound issues
[09:59] <x_O> anyone know?
[09:59] <newquandary> OK I'll sign off - I could paste bin my partitions, but I think I'm just avoiding having to destroy something to get my Ubuntu into some kind of logical shape here ;-)
[09:59] <x_O> how to make a file in terminal?
[09:59] <x_O> what's missing operand mean?
[09:59] <x_O> want to create e17.desktop .. but its telling me missing operand.
[09:59] <Alucard> i mean i'm sure i can do that with any torrent but i don't think i should have to do that.
[09:59] <epiloc> Flannel, did you get that?
[09:59] <ompaul> x_0 stop repeating please
[09:59] <newquandary> x_o touch e17.desktop
[09:59] <Flannel> epiloc: heh, that's a good question ;)  as far as I know, the problem has to be at the router/forwarding, apache won't give nothing if... randomly malconfigured about host (not that it matters, I do it with no spcial stuff)
[10:00] <BigMac__> ok now i ran command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:00] <epiloc> Flannel, ok
[10:00] <BigMac__> then start
[10:00] <BigMac__> it faile
[10:00] <BigMac__> failed
[10:00] <BigMac__> any suggestions?>
[10:00] <Andre4s> should I install some speciall package to get internal nvidia cards to work?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can't detect it
[10:00] <x_O> ompaul, x_O
[10:00] <epiloc> Flannel, what all would i change if i changed the port to say... 232 ?
[10:01] <Flannel> epiloc: so, yeah.  If that means waiting, then maybe you need to wait.  You might also consider a static IP, since... its a lot easier to port forward when you dont have to change the internal IP whenever you turn on computers in a different order
[10:01] <ompaul> BigMac__, please don't hit enter after every word or two, - put all your thoughts on one line, this makes it easier for everyone to use IRC
[10:01] <epiloc> Flannel, besides the router config of course
[10:01] <newquandary> x_O or do nano yourfilename , then save it
[10:01] <ompaul> BigMac__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:01] <stamina|xr7> i ALWAYS use static ips with my linksys box, DHCP blows on v5 of the wrt54g
[10:02] <Andre4s> should I install some speciall package to get internal nvidia cards to work?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can't detect it
[10:02] <newquandary> !nvidia
[10:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:02] <epiloc> Flannel, im not sure how to get this box back on the routers client table lol
[10:02] <apokalypsa> hallo , DO it have trouble with sound >> arts: Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting ?
[10:02] <BigMac__> ompaul: i tried that
[10:03] <Luke> is there a site that can generate my sources.list for sparc64?
[10:03] <ompaul> newquandary, if you do !keyword > nick the user gets it in a pm
[10:03] <Flannel> !source-o-matic
[10:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:03] <Flannel> or, does that not have sparc?
[10:03] <Luke> Flannel: read *sparc64*
[10:03] <abusado> Does the Ubuntu 6.06 CD included apache and mysql??
[10:03] <ompaul> BigMac__, have you choosen the right video driver - if you have not it will not work
[10:04] <abusado> !apache
[10:04] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:04] <BrianG> it includes free stickers.
[10:04] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[10:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:04] <Flannel> Luke: if it's not there, then no. unless you can find one from google.
[10:04] <ucordes> i have a little question: does reinstalling fglrx affetc the xorg and aticonf settings so i get back to standart?
[10:04] <epiloc> I think ive been working on this for 9 hours now
[10:05] <ompaul> ucordes, as long as that is all you did and you did not touch xserver-xorg it really should not matter if you install the driver 100 times
[10:05] <stamina|xr7> damnn
[10:05] <Flannel> epiloc: go away, to bed, etc.  come back to it later, you'll probably fix it in 2 minutes.
[10:06] <stamina|xr7> wow its 4 AM
[10:06] <stamina|xr7> didnt even realize
[10:06] <abusado> They Dont Ship UBUNTU Server :(
[10:06] <ucordes> ompaul: so aticonf settings written to xorg.conf will stay?
[10:07] <ompaul> ucordes, as long as you don't do something to write over the config
[10:08] <ucordes> ompaul: so what's that something? i really messed up the settings and need complete standart
[10:08] <ucordes> omapul: i would like to have a complete reinstall of my display driver with total settings reset
[10:08] <ucordes> ompaul: are there any guides?
[10:08] <ompaul> ucordes, what card?
[10:09] <ucordes> ompaul: x700
[10:09] <BigMac__> Ok I ran command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:09] <ucordes> ompaul: (mobility) and i can't ev
[10:09] <ucordes> change power state
[10:09] <ompaul> !ati > ucordes
[10:10] <BigMac__> GDM failed to start. Any suggestions on where to start?
[10:10] <ompaul> ucordes, read the instructions the bot sent you - print them or whatever - follow them and it will work
[10:10] <ompaul> BigMac__, type of video card?
[10:10] <BigMac__> ATI Radion x700 PCI-E
[10:11] <ompaul> !ati > BigMac__
[10:11] <ucordes> ompaul: does this include a reset of the settings? but this is the 'old' driver isn'T it?
[10:11] <ompaul> BigMac__, read the message from the bot - again print it out and then have shot at it
[10:11] <ompaul> ucordes, at the end it says how to choose the driver
[10:12] <kendals> How do I run a program through terminal, and then close the terminal window without closing the program?
[10:13] <ompaul> kendals, use the command >> nohup  foo --options
[10:13] <kendals> awosome, thanks ompaul! :)
[10:13] <BigMac__> Ompaul...I am typing on my lap top installing on my desktop. I cant do that install that yet b/c i am not connected to the internet
[10:13] <ompaul> BigMac__, so print the instructions
[10:13] <ompaul> and now folks I have to leave
[10:14] <ucordes> ompaul: do i have to remove everything with fglrx from synpatic before following "Using the drivers from ati.com" ?
[10:14] <ompaul> ucordes, just follow the instructions you don't have to do anything that is not in there
[10:14] <BigMac__> !network
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <ucordes> ompaul: it doesn't matter that there still is the included driver installed?
[10:16] <ucordes> sorry i just want to make sure my xserver won't be trashed after this
[10:16] <ucordes> so i have to remove none of the packages?
[10:17] <solsTiCe> hi. is there a wau to use my mouse wheel to change desktop in gnome ?
[10:18] <BigMac__> I trying to run 64bit live and I cant seem to get GDM to run I have tried configing xserv and I cant download new drivers. Any suggestions?
[10:18] <sovieticool> how do i do a complete uninstall to RP-PPPoE
[10:19] <sovieticool> or how i delete a icon from aplication-->internet
[10:23] <sovieticool> how do i do a complete uninstall to RP-PPPoE
[10:24] <sovieticool> how do i do a complete uninstall to RP-PPPoE
[10:24] <sovieticool> or how i delete a icon from aplication-->internet
[10:24] <BeBraw> where can i find a program to write math (matrices) in human readable form on ubuntu?
[10:25] <arole> how can i setup rdp, can anyone help
[10:25] <glick> scuse me, i did an ubuntu auto kernel update
[10:26] <glick> and for some reason it installed an SMP kernel
[10:26] <glick> i wonder why?
[10:26] <glick> is that a bug or something?
[10:26] <glick> cause i dont have an SMP machine
[10:28] <glick> does anyon eknow why ubuntu installed an SMP kernel on my single cpu machine?
[10:28] <iXce> glick : because it's the default setting?
[10:29] <glick> why would SMP be default setting?
[10:29] <gardengnome> i've been wondering about creating my own ubuntu cd *from scratch*, eg by creating my own seeds and using germinate. from what i understand, germinate will just expand the seed files to a list which also contains all dependencies. will it also automagically download all packages or do i have to have my own local ubuntu mirror? how would i create the cd image from these packages? it seems there is a modified version of debian-cd, but i'm not sure if it's
[10:29] <glick> SMP is very inefficient on a single cpu
[10:29] <BigMac__> !gnome
[10:29] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[10:29] <glick> and can seriously hinder performance
[10:29] <iXce> don't know :/
[10:30] <glick> eh ill find out tomorrow
[10:30] <glick> its late
[10:30] <glick> gnite
[10:31] <freesun> please, anyone, do you know if port replicators for laptops work in default?
[10:32] <freesun> in linux ubuntu I mean of course
[10:33] <erpo> What are the most popular package management tools?
[10:38] <freesun> erpo: I guess synaptic
[10:38] <ernstp> erpo: in ubuntu?
[10:38] <erpo> Yeah. Just frontends for apt.
[10:38] <abusado> Gosh whats the problem with this.. when i ping the server it says Destination Host Unreachable but when i booted it on windows its ok
[10:38] <abusado> Gosh whats the problem with this.. when i ping the server it says Destination Host Unreachable but when i booted it on windows its ok
[10:38] <InoL> Hi
[10:39] <erpo> Well, you've ruled out hardware as the problem. Could be any manner of linux networking configuration problem.
[10:39] <freesun> erpo: oh you mean... now I know... so I guess aptitude and dselect (which I don't like too much)
[10:39] <InoL> what i must write on keyboard to start install Ubuntu ?
[10:39] <darnell> i cant get any sound to work
[10:39] <darnell> can someone help me?
[10:39] <nanomad> are you in the audio group?
[10:39] <darnell> hrm?
[10:39] <ernstp> no ubuntu-amd64 channel?
[10:40] <gardengnome> topic
[10:40] <darnell> i've never had to be in an audio group
[10:40] <gardengnome> oops, sorry.
[10:40] <darnell> this is a fresh install
[10:40] <darnell> not even the startup music plays
[10:40] <marcin_ant> !games
[10:40] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[10:41] <InoL> where i can read support for instal ubuntu ?
[10:41] <nanomad> do this from terminal sudo adduser youruser audio
[10:41] <nanomad> then reboot and see if it worked
[10:42] <darnell> it says i'm already a member of audio
[10:42] <erpo> Thanks all.
[10:42] <darnell> i just got a new computer...
[10:43] <darnell> and i switched over the sound card from my old one...
[10:43] <nanomad> darnell: are the modules loaded?
[10:43] <darnell> but the new motherboard already has a soundcard
[10:43] <darnell> could there be a conflict?
[10:43] <mfkfku> where is xorgcfg?? please
[10:44] <nanomad> darnell: yes
[10:44] <nanomad> disable the onboard sound from bios
[10:45] <deepz> guys can u tell me a .dat movie player in ubuntu...totem xine...VLC are not working
[10:45] <darnell> so i should take one out?
[10:45] <nanomad> mfkfku: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:45] <darnell> do i have to reinstall?
[10:46] <nanomad> no
[10:46] <mfkfku> thank you nanomad
[10:46] <mfkfku> thank
[10:48] <BigMac__> I have major problem. Gnome wont restart. Is that a video problem?
[10:48] <deepz> guys can u tell me a .dat movie player in ubuntu...totem xine...VLC are not working
[10:48] <rgl> hello
[10:48] <nanomad> BigMac__: using fglrx driver?
[10:48] <BigMac__> well no
[10:48] <BigMac__> live disk 64bit
[10:49] <sovieticool> !asterisk
[10:49] <nanomad> what do you mean when u say restart?
[10:49] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.7.1.dfsg-2ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 213 kB, installed size 560 kB
[10:49] <epiloc> does dapper come with a firewall installed?
[10:49] <sovieticool> who know to configure asterisk
[10:49] <sovieticool> ?
[10:49] <epiloc> and are there logs i can check?
[10:50] <BigMac__> i run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:50] <BigMac__> and nothing happens
[10:50] <nanomad> but gdm / gnome is already running?
[10:51] <rgl> I'm trying to ru ubuntu on vmware, but I'm unable to get it to work above 640x480, the Xorg log says something like "Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doubl
[10:51] <rgl> escan)", can you help me to fix this?
[10:51] <ernstp> Can you get Usplash to work on AMD64? With edgy?
[10:51] <BigMac__> no i stop it first
[10:51] <Caplain> is there a way to mount iso's?
[10:52] <nanomad> BigMac__: maybe it is a livecd fault
[10:52] <ernstp> Caplain: yeah, as root...
[10:52] <BigMac__> its one that was shipped to me from the ubuntu people.
[10:52] <nanomad> !google
[10:52] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[10:53] <mih> How can I completely uninstall HPLIP? I've removed all hplip* packets from Synaptic, uninstalled compiled driver hplip-1.6.7 and  dpkg --list 'hplip*' still says that rc  hplip  0.9.7-4ubuntu1 is installed. Any ideas how to deal with it?
[10:53] <nanomad> BigMac__: maybe it doesnt support the restarting of gnome (since when you logout it shuts down the system)
[10:53] <Caplain> ernstp: mount filename.iso /mountpoint ?
[10:53] <ernstp> Caplain: sudo mount -o loop,uid=...me file.iso /mnt/iso
[10:53] <ernstp> Caplain: something like that
[10:54] <nanomad> ernstp: it is correct
[10:54] <BigMac__> well i do all this in shell because i cant get xserver to work. When i config xserv i have to restart GDM no?
[10:54] <Caplain> alrighty
[10:54] <Caplain> thanks
[10:54] <Caplain> now that i got half life working with wine i think ill crack out the serious games
[10:55] <nanomad> BigMac__: yes
[10:55] <nanomad> BigMac__: what video card do u have?
[10:57] <xoxo> hello how do i change from single click to double click in kubuntu?
[10:57] <epiloc> how do i use netstat to try to connect to a specific port on my machine?
[10:57] <BigMac__> ATI radion x700
[10:57] <nanomad> epiloc: you must use telnet
[10:57] <BigMac__> pci e
[10:57] <nanomad> BigMac__: laptop?
[10:58] <BigMac__> No
[10:58] <ernstp> anyone using usplash on amd64?
[10:58] <epiloc> telnet to connect to port 400?
[10:58] <sovieticool> how i delete a icon freom application --internet?
[10:59] <rockey> which player support .dat file in ubuntu ?
[10:59] <nanomad> epiloc: yes
[10:59] <sovieticool> how i close iptables ?
[11:00] <nanomad> epiloc: telnet localhost 400
[11:00] <UbuntuFan> Could Ubuntu take over Microsoft Windows?
[11:01] <epiloc> jesus, how do i exit the man page
[11:01] <epiloc> im stuck in the netstat man page, i totally forgot... sigh
[11:01] <Fitzz> epiloc: type q
[11:01] <epiloc> thx
[11:01] <vcolombo> usually you just hit q to exit a man page
[11:01] <ice_1963> i whish
[11:01] <jba> hi guys, can someone please point me to the manual url to download the linux headers deb?
[11:01] <rockey> which player support .dat file in ubuntu ?
[11:01] <jba> i upgraded my vmware image and list network connectivity so can't use apt-get
[11:02] <jba> need linux-headers-2.6.17-7-386 so that i can rebuild the vmxnet module
[11:02] <UbuntuFan> ?
[11:02] <jba> i need to manually download it, so that i can then get it onto my ubuntu vmware image
[11:03] <jba> which doesn't have working network, which is why i can't use apt
[11:03] <ice_1963> UbuntuFan, ubuntu is doing that right now :)
[11:03] <jba> anyone?
[11:03] <epiloc> jesus i hate apache
[11:03] <epiloc> why wont this work
[11:04] <UbuntuFan> for real?
[11:04] <ice_1963> lol
[11:04] <UbuntuFan> Are we seeing a revolution?
[11:04] <epiloc> everything is perfect, i can get to my .com from any computer on my lan, but no computers outside of the lan
[11:05] <jba> can someone please try and do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-7-386 and paste the url for the deb in here?
[11:05] <nanomad> epiloc: maybe it is configured to listen only to local address
[11:05] <nanomad> epiloc: or maybe u have a router
[11:05] <UbuntuFan> Microsoft Windows Must Die.
[11:05] <naranha> jba: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[11:05] <kendals> I just logged into Ubuntu and it said "Error, failure to initialize HAL" .....ideas?
[11:05] <kendals> Updated yesterday, running 6.06 etc.
[11:05] <kendals> Booted fine earlier.
[11:06] <jba> naranha, i don't know never payed it much attention will try now thanks
[11:06] <kendals> Could be because I opened that Xorg-gui editor but didn't change anything ...?
[11:06] <jba> naranha, looks like that was it thanks
[11:06] <naranha> np :)
[11:07] <UbuntuFan> Let's take down Microsoft. and They will change the name of Vista to Cream pooh!
[11:07] <botxj> i hope XGL will compete wtih Vista's 3d desktop
[11:08] <UbuntuFan> Microsoft must die botxj!
[11:08] <Shadowpillar> ah the trumpeting of the newbies
[11:08] <UbuntuFan> its the devil.
[11:08] <botxj> rite
[11:08] <MenZa> !offtopic > UbuntuFan
[11:09] <rockey> hey guys, which player support .dat file ?????
[11:09] <Shadowpillar> having microsoft around is a good thing, mainly because they're competition, competition creates innovation
[11:09] <Shadowpillar> etc
[11:09] <UbuntuFan> Why pay for Windows when Ubuntu does the same thing free.
[11:09] <jba> now to try and shoe-horn it onto the disabled image
[11:09] <UbuntuFan> Why not buy your kid's a new bike instead.
[11:10] <UbuntuFan> Rock on Ubuntu~ o.0
[11:10] <botxj> i was "given" my windows :P
[11:11] <UbuntuFan> I was given my windows too. it's called illegal free version.
[11:11] <UbuntuFan> rock on 0.p
[11:11] <BigMac__> well can you play CS on ubuntu?
[11:11] <compengi> how to create a new folder in terminal?
[11:11] <UbuntuFan> Well you could if enough people supported linux.
[11:11] <BigMac__> mkdir
[11:11] <botxj> wow, UbuntuFan, you're very straight forward
[11:11] <DM-Horus> i screwed up my x server
[11:11] <mih> mkdir foldername
[11:11] <jba> naranha, do you know how to manually mount my usb key?
[11:12] <jba> can't get X, and hence gnome to run. so can't get it automounted
[11:12] <botxj> yeah i have trouble with my usb flash drive too
[11:12] <UbuntuFan> Dont use "Windows" because 'a game' works under it.
[11:12] <BigMac__> yeah right
[11:12] <UbuntuFan> play tetris under ubuntu man, rock on o/0
[11:12] <DM-Horus> thats what dual boot is for
[11:12] <BigMac__> CS source is the only reason to have windows
[11:12] <RMorris85> how do i install a mouse pointer theme?
[11:12] <imbrandon> UbuntuFan, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:12] <UbuntuFan> ok.
[11:13] <botxj> does anybody here have trouble gettign a Memorex Traveldrive USB flash drive to work in linux?
[11:13] <UbuntuFan> sorry. Rock on! -)
[11:13] <Yasuo> hi, where can i find alsaconf?
[11:13] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:13] <mih> !hplip
[11:13] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[11:14] <Yasuo> or any other tool to reconfigure alsa
[11:15] <DM-Horus> does anybody have information on repairing x server after a failed screen res?
[11:16] <Yasuo> somehow i messed up my alsa configuration because i had 2 soundcards for some time, now alsa wont recognize my frist soundcard again
[11:16] <UbuntuFan> Ubuntu needs more bling. w00t
[11:16] <Tjoels> what firewall for ubuntu rocks the most?
[11:17] <RMorris85> i just d/l a mouse pointer theme how do i install it now?
[11:17] <epiloc> someone try and go here www.blakepender.com
[11:17] <botxj> i dont use a software firewall
[11:17] <rockey> guys please , how do i play .dat file ( VCD file ) ???? which player support it
[11:17] <UbuntuFan> xmms?
[11:17] <Tjoels> vlc player
[11:17] <brian98> it's down
[11:17] <UbuntuFan> vlc player
[11:17] <Yasuo> rockey, every player
[11:17] <Tjoels> video lan client
[11:17] <Yasuo> xine, mplayer, vlc
[11:18] <edylie> is automatix a bad thing?
[11:18] <RMorris85> edylie: no but easyubuntu worked better for me
[11:18] <rockey> i have tried : xine, vlc player. not working
[11:18] <rockey> is ubuntu support mplayer
[11:18] <Yasuo> rockey, you have the needed codecs installed?
[11:18] <edylie> ahhh okie
[11:19] <mih> rockey: maybe you need to install proper video codecs?
[11:19] <rockey> yasuo: where do i find codecs ?
[11:19] <chetan_> hi all. i am currently running dapper i would like to enabling direct rendering. could someone please tell me how? thanks
[11:20] <kenmikaze> heya, my totem couldn't view a non-encrypted dvd, do i have to install totem-xine?
[11:20] <edylie> rockey, i have mplayer up and running using automatix
[11:20] <UbuntuFan> uFan> it's Mark. Am rounding up the Art team to bring out the bling bling!
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[11:20] <RMorris85> how do i install new mouse pointers in gnome? from gnome-look
[11:21] <kenmikaze> my mplayer can play dvd's but still, it's quite buggy
[11:21] <UbuntuFan> Marks my hero I follow ubuntu cuz mark went to mars.
[11:21] <powder> RMorris85, extract into .icons in your home directory
[11:22] <ice_1963> ok
[11:22] <BigMac__> is there a way to log onto a network using only shell?
[11:22] <kenmikaze> speaking of BigMac__ , i'm hungry...
[11:22] <BigMac__> lol
[11:23] <Crazed> edylie: automatix is bad
[11:23] <UbuntuFan> Md's will make you sick
[11:23] <UbuntuFan> it's crap
[11:23] <nanomad> BigMac__: ssh, telnet
[11:23] <jba> sdb1
[11:23] <jba> that's what it was
[11:23] <BigMac__> well i am behind school network
[11:23] <rockey> hey come please help me
[11:24] <BigMac__> so just type telnet?
[11:24] <rockey> yasuo: how do i install video codecs ?
[11:24] <RMorris85> powder: then what goto system>pref>mouse?
[11:24] <nanomad> the telned daemon must be installed on the other pc
[11:24] <powder> RMorris85, yes
[11:24] <nanomad> but ssh is MOOOREEE secure
[11:24] <RMorris85> powder: its not showing up in pointers
[11:25] <mih> How can I completely uninstall HPLIP? I've removed all hplip* packets from Synaptic, uninstalled compiled driver hplip-1.6.7 and  dpkg --list 'hplip*' still says that rc  hplip  0.9.7-4ubuntu1 is installed. Maybe now there's someone who knows how to get rid of it :)
[11:25] <Crazed> rockey: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75278.html
[11:25] <kenmikaze> heya, my totem couldn't view a non-encrypted dvd, do i have to install totem-xine?
[11:25] <powder> RMorris85, it works for me :-/
[11:25] <nanomad> install libdvdcss
[11:26] <rockey> crazed : thanks
[11:26] <kenmikaze> ok, gotta comebacl
[11:26] <nanomad> and then look in /usr/share/doc/libdvdcss*/
[11:26] <powder> RMorris85, did you extract the tar.gz file?
[11:26] <ice_1963> mih, jest use aptitude
[11:26] <kenmikaze> nanomad, would that be apt-get libdvdcss?
[11:26] <mih> ice_1963, ok thanx, I'll try that
[11:26] <nanomad> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[11:27] <nanomad> or sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[11:27] <RMorris85> powder: yes, ive put icons themes in there before... and they worked but these arent showing up in the mouse pointers, and even if i try to change the theme from the ones that are there it doesnt change is something wrong?
[11:27] <nanomad> it is: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[11:27] <nanomad> then sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css,sh
[11:28] <UbuntuFan> Well people it's been nice but I hate to go ave a moke.....and get serioualy drunk laid...and feel like shit tomorrow...... it's been real nice. but BYE my LOVERS goodbye my friends you have been the one...you have been the one! GOOD ByE my bruthas and Big ups to AlienX and nanmad...
[11:28] <powder> RMorris85, if you can give me a link to said pointer icons i will try them myself
[11:29] <RMorris85> powder: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=14484
[11:29] <Bigolgoatnutz> Ubuntufan was such a jerk off.
[11:30] <ice_1963> Bigolgoatnutz, well tell it like you mean it lol
[11:31] <powder> RMorris85, there are two folders inside the grounation-0.3 folder
[11:31] <RMorris85> powder: i see what my problem, i had to take the sub folder out, but then when i did that it shows up in mouse properties in pointers, but when i select it and click close it doesnt work
[11:32] <powder> RMorris85, sometimes you need to restart X to get them to work
[11:33] <RMorris85> will try that
[11:34] <Sybux> Is there in linux a tool like norton ghost to create image disc ?
[11:34] <powder> uberpussy, nice nick
[11:35] <uberpussy> powder: thx ;)
[11:35] <nanomad> Sybux: dd ;)
[11:35] <naranha> yeah, dd is all you need
[11:35] <RMorris85> powder: thanks :)
[11:35] <powder> RMorris85, working? :)
[11:35] <chetan_> does anyone know how to enable direct rendering for dapper?
[11:35] <RMorris85> yup! :)
[11:35] <uberpussy> Anyone else got the kernel+nvidia-glx update and lost X?
[11:35] <Sybux> and I can make image of any type ? windows disc ? and I can boot from PXE with it ?
[11:36] <BigMac__> anyone know how to view the logs of GNOME display Manager?
[11:36] <nanomad> Sybux: http://www.linux-backup.net/
[11:36] <Sybux> thx
[11:36] <nanomad> BigMac__: look under /var/log
[11:37] <BigMac__> nanomad: nothing
[11:37] <ISOLATEDViRuS> hey, im doing a php script, and i need some help.
[11:38] <Samuli^> hmm.. I can't install anything with easyubuntu, it tells me that I should fix broken packages first, but I don't have any.
[11:38] <nanomad> BigMac__: /var/log/gdm:0.log
[11:38] <nanomad> BigMac__: /var/log/gdm/gdm:0.log
[11:38] <xuserx> hi.
[11:39] <nanomad> BigMac__: /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[11:39] <nanomad> the last one was the correct one
[11:40] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i cant figure out how to echo another site's cookie =/
[11:40] <appelza> Hi guys, I've broken my mysql-server.  I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling, but it just refuses to start up again
[11:40] <appelza> Any ideas
[11:41] <ISOLATEDViRuS> the server works?
[11:41] <epiloc> apache up and running
[11:41] <epiloc> problem was my isp
[11:41] <BigMac__> nanomad: It still reads that no screens are found yet I ran xserver-xorg
[11:41] <epiloc> stupid cox blocking incoming port 80 requests
[11:42] <appelza> it doesnt start at all
[11:42] <appelza> :/
[11:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> hardware broken?
[11:42] <BigMac__> nanomad: I am trying to restart GDM after configing my xserver file
[11:42] <BigMac__> nanomad: and it fails
[11:44] <nanomad> BigMac__: the opensouce driver do not support X700
[11:44] <nanomad> change driver to VESA and try again
[11:44] <BigMac__> ok thats what i did
[11:44] <BigMac__> and it still wont start
[11:47] <abusado> one last question How to off the IPV6 on Dapper????
[11:47] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Yo, can someone give me some php help
[11:47] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ?
[11:47] <Samuli^> BigMac__, what about changing the driver to "ati" instead of fglrx
[11:47] <BigMac__> well i dont have fglrx
[11:48] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !php
[11:48] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:48] <BigMac__> this is a live CD
[11:48] <Samuli^> ok, so vesa doesn't work and ati doesn't work?
[11:49] <BigMac__> correct
[11:49] <abusado> sudo -u root echo "alias net-pf-10 off" >> /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:50] <Sybux> Do you know a way and a tool that can manage logitech webcam and mainly correct sturation, color and brightness ?
[11:50] <cubanito> orecchioni
[11:50] <wonder_> hi everybody
[11:50] <cubanito> adioooos
[11:51] <wonder_> ciao
[11:51] <wonder_> cubanito
[11:51] <BigMac__> anyclue?
[11:51] <wonder_> qualcuno sa aiutarmi con ubu che ho un piccolo problema ma molto fastidioso
[11:52] <wonder_> anybody can help me solve a small problem with ubuntu dapper
[11:52] <wonder_> is small but make me crazy wacthing movie
[11:53] <liujy> hi
[11:55] <AndroidData> hello. I'm trying to get WINE to work with a program called "BYOND". someone did manage to get it to work with WINE, but was using an older version (WINE 0.9.16, and also tested it on WINE 0.9.20). unfortunatly, the synaptic package manager does not list those versions. is there any way of telling the package manager to indeed install WINE 0.9.16 and/or 0.9.20)? thanks.
[11:55] <Storkme> can anyone help me out? i can't play mp3 files in xmms - i just did a clean install from a 6.06 install cd
[11:55] <liujy> 
[11:56] <Dromen> does the wine version available in synaptic come with directx support??
[11:56] <AndroidData> Storkme: I had the same problem. I tried to install multiple media players, until I installed VLC Media Player. then it worked. try iunstalling VLC
[11:56] <AndroidData> Dromen: yes, I think so.
[11:56] <Dromen> hmm ok
[11:57] <Dromen> how can i be sure?
[11:57] <wonder_> me : everytime i play a movie with mplayer, after 10 min i have black screen of powermaneger
[11:58] <wonder_> i disable it but it continue
[11:58] <wonder_> what can i do ?
[11:58] <habakkuk> hi
[11:58] <manmadha> msg nickserv identify srikanth
[11:58] <AndroidData> oh wait. I got it.
[11:59] <Sikon> Dromen> why don't you add the official Wine repository and download it from there?
[11:59] <Dromen> how do i do that?
[11:59] <Dromen> !wine
[11:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:00] <Sikon> Dromen> http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[12:01] <wonder_> can i have some help too ?
[12:01] <wonder_> i love ubuntu like you
[12:01] <Sikon> wonder_> just tell your problem
[12:01] <Dromen> wow Sikon ty :) im trying to install fear combat
[12:01] <wonder_> i did it
[12:01] <wonder_> so :
[12:01] <BigMac__> guys is it easy to switch display after you install ubuntu?
[12:01] <wonder_> is a problem about power manager i think
[12:01] <Sikon> wonder_> well, I have this problem too
[12:02] <Sikon> I just move the mouse when it happens :)
[12:02] <wonder_> maybey is a xgl problem ?
[12:02] <Sikon> hmm
[12:02] <wonder_> :) yes but it make me crazy
[12:02] <Sikon> I doubt it, I had it without Xgl as well
[12:02] <wonder_> i can't relax
[12:02] <Sikon> do you use GNOME or KDE?
[12:02] <wonder_> gnme
[12:02] <wonder_> with kiba
[12:03] <Sikon> okay, wait
[12:03] <wonder_> and xgl
[12:03] <wonder_> :|
[12:05] <CromagDK> what should i look for when i need to make a file nonhidden as in /.blabla/
[12:05] <CromagDK> :)
[12:05] <zhijun> hi all
[12:05] <neildarlow> Hi all :)
[12:07] <xorl> what gnome menu editor would you guys recommend?
[12:08] <Sikon> wonder_> have you tried going to the power management settings?
[12:08] <Sikon> xorl> there are several?
[12:08] <neildarlow> xorl: i've found alacarte adequate
[12:08] <xorl> hmmm.
[12:09] <xorl> I want to customize the menu beyond alacarte's capabilities.
[12:09] <antonio_> hi all
[12:09] <nysosym> hi there
[12:09] <xorl> lo
[12:09] <antonio_> someone can tell me how can I install gcc-4.1 on my ubuntu-6.06?
[12:10] <viller> i'm currently trying to install dapper. Is resizing partitions supposed to take this long?
[12:10] <nailbags> ok, so how do i change the default ALSA sound card?
[12:10] <nailbags> i.e. sound-card-0
[12:10] <drumline> antonio_: tried apt-get?
[12:10] <neildarlow> can anyone comment on aiglx/compwiz usability on ATI Radeon (R200) hardware for a standard ubuntu install?
[12:10] <xorl> neildarlow: sorry.
[12:10] <filem0n> !w32codecs
[12:10] <antonio_> there isn't 4.1 in repositories
[12:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <xorl> neildarlow: AIGLX does not work with FGLRX at all
[12:11] <antonio_> for the 6.06 release
[12:11] <viller> lol the stupid partitioner crashed
[12:11] <manmadha> what is the purpose of ssh cmd??
[12:11] <iXce> xorl : r200 driver works very well with aiglx >.<
[12:11] <manmadha> can any one tell me?
[12:11] <neildarlow> xorl: what's FGLRX? my oldish Radeon card has opensource drivers
[12:11] <xorl> neildarlow: ahh
[12:11] <xorl> you're using the r300 drivers?
[12:11] <xorl> the ones that guys develing?
[12:12] <antonio_> I should there are various bugs in gfortran 4.0, fixed in 4.1, but ubuntu comes with the 4.0 version
[12:12] <neildarlow> xorl: my card is R200. i'll checxk my xorg.lof
[12:12] <antonio_> I can't get gcc-4.1 compilation from sources 'out of the box'
[12:12] <xorl> fglrx doesnt work with AIGLX
[12:12] <antonio_> so I'm wondering if someone has an easy hint
[12:13] <viller> stupid ubuntu tried to install over my previous installation and ruined it
[12:13] <viller> fucking crap
[12:13] <nailbags> how do i change the order in which alsa modules are loaded? i want to make my sblive the default (1st) card, not the onboard
[12:14] <DBO> viller, less on the swearing please
[12:14] <xorl> nailbags: reboot, and disable onboard unless you're using it
[12:14] <filem0n> !w32codecs
[12:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <xuserx> viller: how did it do that?
[12:14] <wonder_> yes sikon i did it
[12:14] <wonder_> i'm in private with you
[12:14] <axeeOo> hello. when I try running the autogen.sh file output by glade-2, i get the error: "**Error**: You must have `glib' installed." I thought it was installed.....when glade installed :\
[12:14] <drumline> viller: ubuntu isn't stupid.  Know what you are doing before you start playing with harddrives with valuable data on them.
[12:15] <Sikon> wonder_> No. No private, please.
[12:15] <nailbags> xorl, i want a software solution. i might use it in the futue.
[12:15] <wonder_> ok
[12:15] <neildarlow> xorl: looks like it loads the R128 driver
[12:15] <wonder_> Sikon > i disable the powermanager and set it to never
[12:16] <wonder_> Sikon > but still do black screen after 10 min
[12:16] <Sikon> hmm, that's weird
[12:16] <drumline> viller: if there's any question in your mind about what Ubuntu is going to do to your drive, one without anything on it.   If there isn't any doubt and you screwed it up, then you need to sit and think about your thought processes that led up to your data getting screwed because you don't want to do that with extremely critical data.
[12:16] <drumline> that is: use one without anything on it.
[12:17] <wonder_> Sikon > maybe i can stop it by the service ???
[12:17] <nailbags> does anyone know how do to change the default ALSA sound card?
[12:17] <drumline> nailbags: have you checked the mailing lists, forums, and google?
[12:18] <nailbags> drumline, i will, i thought this should be a quick thing someone could tell me off the top of their head
[12:18] <xinit_> hi
[12:19] <xuserx> hi.
[12:19] <xinit_> does anyone know if gnubiff has a debug mode?
[12:19] <xinit_> I have an Imap ssl server, but gnubiff only says "Error"
[12:19] <manopulus> hello, i do not have gnome installed, but i have evolution. my screen is 1280x600 and i want to change menus, to text beside icon, not as per-default, text below icon. but i do not have gnome-ui-properties, so, what i have change and where, any text file?
[12:19] <erUSUL> nailbags: in your or system wide alsarc www-alsa-project.org
[12:20] <nailbags> erUSUL, i just used gnome-sound-properties and that seemed to work. it may not work for all programs but it worked for mplayer
[12:20] <AndroidData> http://developer.byond.com/forum/index.cgi?action=message_read&id=488023&forum=14&view=0 -- help!
[12:21] <erUSUL> nailbags: is asoundrc sorry http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=MultipleCards
[12:23] <BigMac__> HOLY HELL ITS WORKING!!!!
[12:23] <neildarlow> erUSUL: isn't asoundrc deprecated in lieu of asound.conf?
[12:23] <xopher> how do I apply a patch to a source archive?
[12:24] <nailbags> xorl, to a .deb source?
[12:24] <nailbags> xopher, ^^
[12:24] <erUSUL> neildarlow: may be a don't know for sure if that's the case the alsa-project.org docs are out of date...
[12:24] <nailbags> (not xorl)
[12:24] <xopher> nailbags, yeah
[12:25] <nailbags> xopher, there are some docs on the wiki, but i'd recommend reading the 'debian new developers guide'
[12:25] <xopher> *googling*
[12:26] <Nilvio> !virus
[12:26] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:27] <neildarlow> erUSUL, nailbags: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=.asoundrc
[12:27] <Buckus> Im trying to install the newest madwifi but its asking me where my kernel source is :S
[12:29] <neildarlow> Buckus: are you doing a non-.deb install of madwifi?
[12:30] <simpo> hello! I connect to my remote ubu-box by XDMCP and all works fine, I can login and work at remote desktop, but is there any way to disconnect from XDMCP server and doesnt stop X app runnig on it ?
[12:31] <Vegeta^> I've installed the Macromedia Flash Player, but it still doesn't work in Firefox, even after I copied "libflashplayer.so" to mozilla/plugins and "flashplayer.xpt" to mozilla/components. Am I missing somthing?
[12:31] <Buckus> neildarlow: yes
[12:33] <neildarlow> Buckus: you'd need your kernel sources with the associated .config file available in /usr/src/linux to proceed. not sure how to achieve that for ubuntu.
[12:34] <neildarlow> Vegeta^: i just installed flashplayer-nonfree and it worked for me. not need to shuffle libraries about :o
[12:34] <Hybernate> is there any special codec pack needed to playback normal dvd?
[12:35] <Buckus> neildarlow okay thanks. I'll give it a shot
[12:35] <mwe> !dvd
[12:35] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:35] <Vegeta^> neildarlow: Can you see FlashPLayer plugins in about:plugins?
[12:35] <neildarlow> Vegeta^: yes
[12:37] <neildarlow> Vegeta^: although it only supports flash upto version 7. many sites are now at version 9 and won't work with it :S
[12:37] <drumline> nailbags: gotcha...   Google can often be quicker if you know how to search effectively.  :)
[12:37] <Vegeta^> neildarlow: ohh... You know where Ubuntu installs the plugins?
[12:37] <neildarlow> Vegeta^: dpkg -L packagename
[12:38] <drumline> Only time recently when google wasn't faster for me was when I ended up spending a lot of time googling something when a quick call to a fellow consultant yielded an instant answer.   It's a balance...  But google should always be first...
[12:39] <BigMac__> anyone know why grub would not prompt me?
[12:40] <drumline> BigMac__: timeout might be set to 0
[12:40] <BigMac__> how do i fix that?
[12:40] <drumline> BigMac__: try rebooting and holding the down key and seeing if you get the prompt
[12:40] <neildarlow> Vegeta^: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree with symlinks in various other plugin directories
[12:40] <drumline> go into the grub config within ubuntu....   There's a graphical tool for it, i think
[12:40] <inimesekene> bigmac__ installed windows?
[12:41] <Ishmael> Hi! I have HP nx8220, receiving an error message: cannot allocate resource region 7 (also 8 and 9). What that means? Seems that noone knows.
[12:41] <BigMac__> seems like ubuntu takes a long time to load up
[12:42] <drumline> BigMac__: security and a modular approach takes a bit more time.  :)
[12:42] <neildarlow> Ishmael: sounds like a PCI issue. could be BIOS related
[12:42] <drumline> BigMac__: it's worth it..
[12:43] <kyja> dosbox rawks
[12:43] <BigMac__> i see
[12:43] <neildarlow> BigMac__: if you want to see a slow startup, try Gentoo. ubuntu is swift by comparision. :)
[12:43] <drumline> can somebody name off some good mp3 player manufacturers?
[12:43] <kyja> cant get dosemu to do a thing
[12:43] <bent> hello, i got problem. I run /etc/init.d/gdm restart and i get an error: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (no such file or direcory... I looked here, there is no X file. But i dont get it there afrer reinstaling xserver-xorg packages... Any suggestions?
[12:44] <Vegeta^> neildarlow: I forgot to tell that I'm not using flashplayer-nonfree, I downloaded the flashplayer from their website and installed that. But I have fixed it now, I do have 2 more plugins in about:plugins, for FlashPlayer
[12:44] <inimesekene> but startup time doesn't matter all that much
[12:44] <inimesekene> i mean... look at how many have gentoo , and how many have/had win2k
[12:44] <Ishmael> neildarlow: what to do?
[12:45] <inimesekene> win2k took at least twice as long as an average gentoo does
[12:45] <dipnlik> hi all. is there a way to make xbindkeys-config look nicer? (better fonts / buttons / etc)
[12:45] <neildarlow> Ishmael: Google for HP Linux "your specific error message"
[12:47] <Elektrochelovek> hello, i got problem. I run /etc/init.d/gdm restart and i get an error: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (no such file or direcory... I looked here, there is no X file. But i dont get it there afrer reinstaling xserver-xorg packages... Any suggestions?
[12:47] <neildarlow> inimesekene: i find startup time is important when speaking to NTL cable support and pretending to run windows to follow their support scripts :)
[12:48] <neenaoffline_> is the a tabbed version of gedit or anyother simple editor like beaver made using  GTK2 (or any other GUI toolkit) which uses tabs ?
[12:48] <dipnlik> neildarlow: lol
[12:48] <Buckus> What command was it to see what kernel version im using? :(
[12:48] <dipnlik> neenaoffline_: i use scite instead of gedit
[12:48] <Elektrochelovek> neenaoffline_ try scite
[12:48] <Elektrochelovek> Buckus> uname -a
[12:48] <Buckus> thanks sir
[12:48] <inimesekene> neildarlow: lol
[12:49] <mwe> uname -r will show just the version
[12:49] <dipnlik> neildarlow: yeah, i know. :(
[12:51] <inimesekene> i remember i had my win xp so messed up, that it took like 10minutes to infinite to shut down :\
[12:52] <IceLink> Hi @ll
[12:52] <RvGaTe> Is it possible to adjust the screen position, without the use of the screens build in menu... becouse my screen (Samsung Syncmaster 203B 20", vga 1400x1050) is not alligned correctly when i use the rgb output, and i can't alllign it with the build in menu's becouse it is to far away and my values can' t reach it...also, pressing the auto button on my screen does not fix it. Altho my right screen (using nvidia twinview), using dvi output, works
[12:52] <RvGaTe> perfect (Samsung Syncmaster 203B 20", dvi 1400x1050), here is my xorg config: http://www.pastebin.ru/4514
[12:53] <IceLink> Could anybody help me with the installation of Ubuntu 6.06 Desktop 64-Bit?
[12:54] <IceLink> If I choose install and hit enter he stops by the message "<0>Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[12:55] <IceLink> Until now nobody of the german ubuntu forums could help me
[12:55] <rb2k> anyone experiencing problems with the firefox 2.0b2 update (edgy)
[12:55] <habeeb> Greetings, following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch I created a chroot enviroment. But well, it tells me to setup pbuilder once again, inside the chroot enviroment, is this right? I have already built it.
[12:55] <rb2k> after launching firefox, all i get is this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3598/
[12:55] <kevor_> rb2k: i think that question would be better at it's place on #ubuntu+1
[12:56] <rb2k> oh, thx
[12:56] <Wespe> hi, umount keeps telling me that the device i want to umount is busy. what can I do?
[12:57] <JosefK> Wespe: you're not trying to unmount it while cd'd to it or a subdirectory?
[12:58] <Wespe> JosefK: no, and all apps but the console are closed
[12:58] <JosefK> Wespe: cd to it, 'find . -exec fuser {} \;'
[12:59] <JosefK> Wespe: if nothing shows there, you can always try a 'sudo umount -f *device*'
[12:59] <Wespe> JosefK: it gives me .:                   10861c 13978c 14770c
[12:59] <Wespe> ./o:                  5730c  6149c 28219c  7491c  9317c
[01:00] <Wespe> .:                   10861c 13978c 14770c
[01:00] <Wespe> ./o:                  5730c  6149c 28219c  7491c  9317c
[01:00] <JosefK> that'll do :)
[01:00] <Wespe> what does that mean?
[01:01] <JosefK> they're process id's using the path/files.  presumably one of them will be your shell, and the find
[01:01] <JosefK> 'ps -ef | grep *process ID*' to figure if it's safe to 'kill *ID*' them
[01:02] <cocos> !dualboot
[01:02] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:02] <JosefK> Wespe: it looks some things are still cd'd to it.  you should be safe to cd out of it, and kill those IDs.
[01:03] <Wespe> flo       7491  6149  0 09:40 pts/3    00:00:00 xmms -p is hanging in there ;)
[01:03] <nomasteryoda|w> will edgy have a firewall by default?????
[01:03] <JosefK> Wespe: there you go then ;)
[01:03] <habeeb> nomasteryoda|w: iptables?
[01:03] <nomasteryoda|w> ya
[01:03] <Subhuman> nomasteryoda, ubuntu has all ports closed by default now?
[01:03] <habeeb> afaik iptables comes by default in linux.
[01:03] <nomasteryoda|w> well that is there, but unconfigured
[01:03] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[01:03] <habeeb> sudo aptitude install firestarter
[01:03] <habeeb> A GUI for it :)
[01:04] <nomasteryoda|w> well that is not true in ubuntu
[01:04] <nomasteryoda|w> 6.06.1
[01:04] <RvGaTe> anyone ?
[01:04] <nomasteryoda|w> i have ethereal tcpdump files as proof
[01:04] <JosefK> Wespe: if xmms refuses to be killed, you can add -9 (kill immediately) ie. 'kill -9 7491'
[01:04] <Chousuke> Ubuntu doesn't run any network services by default
[01:04] <Chousuke> as far as I know
[01:05] <Subhuman> Chousuke is correct
[01:05] <DrSpin> can anyone tell me how to convince mysql to listen on both localhost(127.0.0.1) and on the public interface ?
[01:05] <Chousuke> so there's no need for a firewall
[01:05] <nomasteryoda|w> then how do you get on the web? and ping...
[01:05] <nomasteryoda|w> er, ok
[01:05] <Subhuman> a base ubuntu install has NO open ports, soa firewall is not nessarsay
[01:05] <Subhuman> nomasteryoda, you can make outgoing connections, but not incoming.,
[01:05] <Chousuke> nomasteryoda|w: of course you can connect to the outside network.
[01:05] <Wespe> JosefK: yeah, thx. won't umount altough... chacking the IDs again
[01:05] <Chousuke> but the outside network has nothing to connect to on your machine :)
[01:05] <Wespe> checking
[01:05] <IceLink> Could anybody help me by the installation of ubuntu 6.06 Desktop: If I choose install and hit enter he stops by the message "<0>Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[01:05] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[01:05] <JosefK> Wespe: remember to cd to ~ or something first
[01:05] <HeMan> Odd, i gott opengl-painter to work but i cant run glxinfo...
[01:06] <Wespe> JosefK: i did ;)
[01:06] <JosefK> Wespe: erk :/ probably some processes hanging in there
[01:07] <IceLink> Could anybody help me by the installation of ubuntu 6.06 Desktop: If I choose install and hit enter he stops by the message "<0>Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[01:07] <IceLink> whoops
[01:07] <IceLink> sorry
[01:08] <Wespe> JosefK: anyway, I will try again after a restart... thx a lot
[01:08] <JosefK> Wespe: np :)
[01:09] <Nameeater> RvGaT: are you using the proper sync rates?
[01:09] <alessandropironi> #ubuntu-it
[01:11] <ElliotH> Hi everyone, I got a problem with this dapper installation it just freezes at 24%, I'm trying to install the 64bit version on a serial ATA hard drive and it freezes when copying files. The disk check says the disk is pristine and I ordered it from ShipIt and the disk installed fine under vmware. Any suggestions?
[01:14] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: are you using the proper sync rates?
[01:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS> can anyone help me with php and cookies?
[01:14] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, yes
[01:15] <Nameeater> hmm, wierd, the only mention I see of incorrect position (brief look I must say) refers to syn rates
[01:15] <Nameeater> snyc*
[01:15] <Nameeater> arg.
[01:15] <Nameeater> Horizontal frequency	31-81 kHz Vertical frequency	50-75 Hz ?
[01:16] <DrSpin> SOLUTION: Ubuntu doesn't use "skip_networking" instead it sets bind_address=127.0.0.1 -- commenting out that line in /etc/mysql/my.cnf solved my problem :)
[01:16] <tkroo> ISOLATEDViRuS, tried ##php ?
[01:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS> thanks
[01:17] <ElliotH> anyone got any ideas on this? I got a problem with this dapper installation it just freezes at 24%, I'm trying to install the 64bit version on a serial ATA hard drive and it freezes when copying files. The disk check says the disk is pristine and I ordered it from ShipIt and the disk installed fine under vmware. Any suggestions?
[01:17] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:17] <Elektrochelovek> ElliotH, press alt+f2 ..f3
[01:17] <Elektrochelovek> there should be more info
[01:18] <Elektrochelovek> on which particular step ir freezes
[01:18] <ElliotH> Elektrochelovek: ok, give me a second to restart the installation, thanks
[01:18] <ElliotH> (I closed it before)
[01:21] <Storkme> how can i stop `java` from referring to a java version i installed via apt-get and make it refer to something in my PATH
[01:21] <Bazzi> update-alternatives --config java
[01:22] <Storkme> Bazzi, but i want none of those.
[01:22] <Storkme> i want java to fall through and the executable found in a dir at the end of my PATH
[01:22] <Bazzi> then you have to add yours to /etc/alternatives/java
[01:23] <Bazzi> huh?
[01:23] <Bazzi> you can use /your/java/install/java yourfile.java if you explicitly want to load it with one java version
[01:23] <number_six> hi all
[01:24] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, i missed your answer/suggestion becouse you didn't start with RvGaTe: <message>, i was wondering where you went :P
[01:24] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: sorry ;p
[01:24] <number_six> can anybody help me about mount partitions
[01:24] <number_six> ?
[01:25] <Storkme> Bazzi, how do i add mine to /etc/alternatives/java ?
[01:25] <habeeb> Just go on with your question number_six
[01:25] <SillyZ> gmornin
[01:25] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, restarting gdm now
[01:26] <erUSUL> |anyone > number_six
[01:26] <number_six> a line from my fstab :/dev/hdb1	/media/storage2 ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[01:26] <engla> !edgy
[01:26] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:26] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, same thing, exactly the same thing
[01:26] <Bazzi> Storkme: using --install
[01:27] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: damn, not sure what to try next
[01:27] <number_six> but i'cant open the partitions
[01:27] <habeeb> !schedule > habeeb
[01:27] <Rug> Howdy all
[01:27] <yrjo> how do I change my ext2 partition to ext3?
[01:27] <number_six> I get this message:error: device /dev/hda2 is not removable
[01:27] <number_six> error: could not execute pmount
[01:28] <Rug> yrjo: The only way that I know, is to reformat it
[01:28] <SillyZ> reformat it with mkfs.ext3 but your going to loose all data
[01:28] <yrjo> ok
[01:28] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, switching 1 resolution lower makes it display correctly on both display... but it should work on 1400x1050 on both screens
[01:28] <SillyZ> personally id take reiserfs over ext filesystems anyday
[01:28] <yrjo> that's bad
[01:28] <yrjo> but thanks anyway
[01:29] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: thats very wierd
[01:29] <Rug> SillyZ: I have lost a lot of data on Riser partitions.  Sure ext might be slow, but damn it's solid
[01:29] <cpk2> I love the messages on some distros when it asks you want fs you want
[01:29] <cpk2> and the notes for reiser
[01:29] <SillyZ> Rug: Id have to disagree with you on that one, Ive been running reiserfs for years and Ive never lost a single bit of data
[01:30] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, thats how i thought about it :P
[01:30] <Abst> How do I change windows in Irssi?
[01:30] <Rug> Cool, good for you.
[01:30] <SillyZ> Rug: its all personal preference anyway now adays
[01:30] <Rug> Abst: Ctrl + N
[01:30] <Abst> Thankyou!
[01:31] <Rug> SillyZ: yeah i suppose.
[01:32] <erUSUL> Abst: is Alt + N around here (or Esc <release key> N)
[01:32] <Abst> erUSUL: Yeah Alt + N works
[01:33] <ElliotH> Elektrochevolek: Just tried that, but the system was frozen beyond use, had to reboot, it freezes the moment it tries to start copying files
[01:33] <Rug> =)
[01:33] <Elektrochelovek> ;/
[01:34] <Rug> keyboard mapings?  region settings?  I don't know.  for me alt+N doesn't work but ctrl+n does.
[01:34] <RogerRabb> hey, looking for a database workbench.. something to let me visually design a database then for it to export the mysql code to create said things?
[01:34] <Rug> RogerRabb: have you tried the DB app in Openoffice?
[01:34] <RogerRabb> oh, nope I haven't
[01:35] <ElliotH> Elektrochelovek: any other ideas? I think it might be because it recognizes the SATA harddrive as an ATA
[01:35] <Rug> RogerRabb: I don't know if it'll do what you want, but considering it's target, it might be a decent start
[01:35] <RvGaTe> I Plugged in a usb device, but it doesn' t show up on the desktop (its a sd-card reader)
[01:35] <HeMan> when i got opengl to work in the menus i can't play any type of video
[01:35] <Storkme> i broke my old ubuntu partition - ubuntu64 - so i reinstall on an empty partition, and mount the old broken partition in /media/spare so i can access almost all the config files i had before i cocked up :D plus i still have the /home partition which is unchanged, so if anything, destroying my ubuntu64 partition was a good thing
[01:36] <RvGaTe> nvm my last question
[01:36] <HeMan> neither with myth's internal player nor mplayer
[01:36] <RogerRabb> nope - seems to want to connect to database etc, and doesn't like the drivers Rug
[01:37] <kingace1> hello
[01:37] <HeMan> and i get "scheduling while atomic:" in my kernel-message-log
[01:37] <appelza> Someone gimme the lamp link pls
[01:37] <appelza> !lamp
[01:37] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:37] <appelza> nm
[01:38] <Rug> RogerRabb: sorry, I always create my DB's on the command-line.
[01:38] <kingace1> i'm trying to dual-boot ubuntu and windows, with ubuntu on a usb drive... but when I insert the disk and choose Start or Install Ubuntu, it freezes immediately at "Ok, Loading the Kernel".. can someone help me?
[01:38] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, can you play .3gp files created from mobiles? (i made a video on what my problem is)
[01:39] <SillyZ> now heres one that bugs the daylights outta me, in Xchat it no longer shows the users in the channel on the right hand side, anyone know how to turn this feature back on??
[01:39] <Storkme> funny how just a bunch of ubuntu users on irc are so much more effective then microsofts 1,000,000 call centers in india..
[01:39] <RogerRabb> Rug yeah same here.. just wanted to test out a few designs visually, then have it automatically script them for me this time around.. since I'm not positive on the best way to do it
[01:39] <xtayfool> !hd-media
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hd-media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.3gp
[01:40] <Rug> RogerRabb: I know it's not exactly what you are looking for, but have you tried phpMyAdmin?
[01:40] <RogerRabb> not running php :)
[01:41] <Rug> RogerRabb: you are determined to not let me help you eh?
[01:41] <Gyuri_> re
[01:41] <RogerRabb> and phpmyadmin doesn't let me create tables visually on a convas and move them around - then create lines (eg relationships) between tables
[01:41] <RogerRabb> unless it's suddenly gone all javascript mad
[01:41] <Rug> RogerRabb: yeah I know..
[01:41] <xtayfool> hao can i get the prefect hd-media which works with knot3?
[01:41] <appelza> Hi guys, my php5 isnt installing properly, it doesnt add anything inside : /usr/lib/php5/20051025/
[01:42] <kingace1> what would cause my disk to freeze while loading the kernel? the download is good (i checked md5)?
[01:42] <SillyZ> have you tried Webmin for sql administration?
[01:42] <DrSpin> anyone in here really familiar with sambe??
[01:42] <SillyZ> I know webmin will let ya ccreate tables and such
[01:42] <DrSpin> phpmyadmin is what I use
[01:42] <Rug> DrSpin: do you mean SAMBA?
[01:42] <fxn1> HI all
[01:42] <Abst> Hi
[01:42] <Coello> algn marica para hablar de lo que sea?
[01:42] <DrSpin> Rug: uh... exactly... wasn't paying attention ;)
[01:43] <RogerRabb> yeah, not an issue of creating tables.. I do that on command line.. just wanted to visually design tables with relationships and have it script it for me, this time around
[01:43] <pal18> anyone knows what I need to write at the boot prompt to get the livecd to show the desktop? trying it on my laptop, boots fine, it plays the start sound (I assume) but just show a black screen, no desktop
[01:43] <Rug> !samba
[01:43] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:43] <fxn1> I have a problem. I have installed flash and java and java applets show fonts really big and flash doesnt work in firefox - in opera it does but its just a laggy black screen and doesnt work correctly can someone help me out?
[01:43] <DrSpin> thanks
[01:44] <kingace1> if ubuntu isnt going to work then what's the best alternative?
[01:44] <Abst> kingace1: SuSE or Debian honestly
[01:44] <Storkme> kingace1, i've heard good things about fedora core
[01:44] <Rug> kingace1: fix it
[01:44] <fxn1> how do i uninstall flash and java
[01:44] <fxn1> i want flash to work the most :(
[01:44] <nysosym> i have a problem with edgy knot 3 firefox (bon echo) the fonts are really crappy, no option shows any better result. Anyone with the same problem?
[01:44] <kingace1> rug: i'm a newbie with this stuff, and I asked for help, but i didn't get any response at all
[01:45] <DrSpin> the "guest" option on my mount command fixed it :)
[01:45] <Abst> kingace1: What was the problem
[01:45] <Rug> kingace1: what a great chance to learn
[01:45] <kingace1> i'm trying to dual-boot ubuntu and windows, with ubuntu on a usb drive... but when I insert the disk and choose Start or Install Ubuntu, it freezes immediately at "Ok, Loading the Kernel"
[01:45] <cocos> !lts
[01:45] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[01:45] <mundisko> hehe
[01:45] <cocos> !release
[01:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[01:46] <Abst> kingace1: How big is your usb pen
[01:47] <SillyZ> I originially did support (online) ofr Mandrake/Mandriva, then moved on to Gentoo, and then found Ubuntu and is one of the best distros I have yet to see... long live Ubuntu
[01:47] <kingace1> Abst: it's not a pen, its an external drive, i have 35 gigs
[01:48] <kingace1> and it shouldnt matter because at this point i havent even specified where the installation is going to
[01:48] <Rug> kingace1: remove the USB drive and try again.  (just to see if it gets past the Loading Kernel stage).  Also, why install on a USB drive?  If it is to "protect" your Windows partition then it won't help. (The /boot partition will overwrite your MBR anyway.)
[01:48] <kingace1> its not to protect it, I only have 1 partition on my local disk
[01:48] <kingace1> and i don't really want to format everything
[01:48] <Abst> kingace1: Make some!
[01:49] <Rug> kingace1: you can resize your existing partitions
[01:49] <kingace1> can you make a new partition just from free space?
[01:49] <Abst> THere is ways to resize NTFS
[01:49] <kingace1> without losing my data?
[01:49] <Abst> And yes, you can
[01:49] <kingace1> ah
[01:49] <Rug> yes
[01:49] <kingace1> well I'm using NTFS...
[01:49] <kingace1> on my windows partition
[01:49] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: apparently I cant play them and transcode is 15megs :/
[01:50] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: I think I understand what is the problem but not a clue how to fix it
[01:50] <Storkme> how can i make sure a service is called by my user when i log into gnome?
[01:50] <kingace1> i'm going to try without the USB
[01:50] <Storkme> is there like a startup file?
[01:50] <Rug> As long as you don't shrink it too much then it should be fine.  (leave enough free space on your Windows partition so that it doesn't crash
[01:50] <Abst> Storkme: Would Sys -> Prefs -> Sessons -> Startup do?
[01:50] <Storkme> ah
[01:50] <Storkme> cunning
[01:50] <Storkme> thanks aba_
[01:50] <Storkme> Abst *
[01:51] <Abst> Hehe NP
[01:52] <Nameeater> RvGate: works now ;o wierd wierd wierd!
[01:52] <elvirolo> hi
[01:52] <Abst> Hey
[01:52] <elvirolo> could anyone tell me what the dapper chan is ?
[01:52] <elvirolo> er
[01:52] <elvirolo> edgy, i mean
[01:52] <Nameeater> #ubuntu+1
[01:52] <Abst> #ubunut+1
[01:52] <elvirolo> thanks
[01:52] <Abst> Oops
[01:52] <GNAM> knot 3 has been announced?
[01:53] <Abst> Rug: Should it be noted that some windows partitioners outpreform Linux ones (sorry!)
[01:53] <admin_> i have my TTY7 with GNOME running now, how can i also make XFCE run at the same time in TTY8
[01:54] <Rug> Abst: don't apologize.  They sure do.  I would never resize my partitions using linux apps.  Horrid I tell you, and I don't trust them.  That is why I keep several drives going at one time.
[01:54] <Abst> Yeah
[01:55] <Rug> admin_: that would require a 'second' copy of x-windows to run
[01:56] <Rug> Abst: can you ping me, is my lag really at 3 seconds?!?!!
[01:56] <Abst> I dunno
[01:56] <Abst> Possibly, I get 20 seconds lag sometimes
[01:56] <Abst> Pung
[01:56] <Abst> 6 secs
[01:57] <Rug> wow
[01:57] <Rug> I really shouldn't have so many BT sessions going at once I guess
[01:58] <Abst> Hehe
[01:58] <Abst> I have a telnet game running in one TTY, irssi in the second, console in the third and X in the 7th
[01:58] <Storkme> does anyone here use lineakd ? every time i start it up it says: Display plugin not found
[01:59] <ElliotH> Does anyone know how to make the ubuntu 6.06 64bit live CD recognise an SATA harddrive as an SATA harddrive instead of ATA which it is doing at the moment
[02:00] <GyrosGeier> \o/
[02:00] <Rug> ElliotH: SATA is ATA, what is the problem?
[02:00] <Abst> Guitar on fire?
[02:01] <ElliotH> Rug: The installer just can't copy the files accross so it freezes... so I assumed that that could be the problem
[02:01] <nicu> question : wick linux is the faster end the most stabale : ubuntu..slackware...mandriva..or suse????
[02:02] <Abst> nicu: GO ask in ##linux
[02:02] <Ash-Fox> nicu, depends on what you're using them for.
[02:02] <linnuxxy> i have massed with some configuration files in the /etc/X11/  ... and i forgote to backup it first... how can i restore the default?
[02:02] <Ash-Fox> nicu, for fork bombs, slackware will go down fastest.
[02:02] <Ash-Fox> :P
[02:02] <nicu> :)
[02:03] <DrSpin> !samba
[02:03] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:03] <Skaag> hey there
[02:03] <Abst> Hey there
[02:03] <nicu> ok thanhs
[02:03] <Skaag> i've received this box with kubuntu on it, but i'm an ubuntu (gnome) dude, is there an easy way to switch it to gnome or will I have to reinstall from the CD?
[02:03] <Rug> nicu: fastest and most-stable are mutally exclusive.
[02:03] <nicu> :)
[02:03] <yacek19> hi
[02:04] <Abst> Hey
[02:04] <Skaag> hi yacek19
[02:04] <Rug> Skaag: apt-get install gnome-desktop
[02:04] <Skaag> rug: ah, great :-)
[02:04] <Samuli^> skaag, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <Abst> Skaag: No
[02:04] <Skaag> rug: I was beginning to worry I would have to do a lot of hard work
[02:04] <linnuxxy> i have massed with some configuration files in the /etc/X11/  ... and i forgote to backup it first... how can i restore the default? using apt... download it manully from the CVS?
[02:04] <Abst> Skaag: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <Samuli^> or if you're not sure you want to keep it then use aptitude instead of apt-get
[02:05] <Skaag> thanks guys :)
[02:05] <Abst> Yeah do this: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-dekstop
[02:05] <Abst> Yeah do this: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <Rug> Skaag: don't worry this is Linux.  Of course you will have to do hard-work
[02:05] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, you still there m8 ?
[02:05] <erUSUL> linnuxxy: if it's xorg.conf try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to generate a new valid one
[02:05] <Abst> Haha
[02:05] <ElliotH> Is there a way to get the dapper live CD to install without booting into the live cd?
[02:05] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: sorta, whats up?
[02:05] <erUSUL> ElliotH: no afaik
[02:06] <Samuli^> skaag, erasing kde is a different story though, easier to just keep both.
[02:06] <Abst> ElliotH: You could download the text based installer
[02:06] <Rug> ElliotH: you can grab the alternate install CD
[02:06] <Skaag> yes i will keep both
[02:06] <erUSUL> !alternate > ElliotH
[02:06] <Skaag> I do not have a space issue I think..!
[02:06] <Skaag> (hope)
[02:06] <Skaag> ;-)
[02:06] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, i create a movie with my mobile, to show you exactly the problem... its only in 3gp format, and i cant convert it atm :S http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.3gp
[02:06] <Skaag> 66gb available, yes, should be fine to keep it
[02:06] <Rug> ElliotH: if you are unable to copy files on your SATA drive, then something else is going on.
[02:06] <Skaag> besides I do run some kde apps, sometimes, like amarok
[02:07] <Samuli^> kde takes around 300-400MB so, you're probably all right :)
[02:07] <linnuxxy> in fact they r those file in directory /etc/X11/xkb/rules
[02:07] <Skaag> ElliotH: did you make sure it's mounted rw?
[02:07] <Abst> Skaag: Kopete :D
[02:07] <yacek19> I have strange problem with compiling. I do "make" and at the and during linking, my computer hangs, completly and I can hear some noise from speakers.
[02:07] <ElliotH> Skaag: Well I'm just going for a fresh install from blanl
[02:07] <Rug> Skaag: k3b
[02:07] <plc> call for help! I installed ubuntu 64bit version yesterday. I followed the instruction in Ubuntu Forums to get my w32codec working. But I found the mplayer32 package is not compatible with the ia32-lib-openoffice. How can I do now? Anybody can help? Thanks
[02:07] <Skaag> Abst: and about kopete, does it have OTR?
[02:07] <Samuli^> yacek19, you're right. That IS strange :)
[02:07] <Abst> OTR?
[02:07] <Skaag> ElliotH: that's usually best
[02:08] <Skaag> Abst: Off The Record encryption
[02:08] <ElliotH> Skaag: But that doesn't work, it just freezes
[02:08] <Abst> Oh
[02:08] <Abst> I don't know/care sorry
[02:08] <Skaag> ElliotH: perhaps you need to load some driver for your sata
[02:08] <Nameeater> RvGaTe: yar I saw it and I messaged that I'm not sure what to do, its veeeeery wierd
[02:08] <yacek19> but what can cause that?
[02:08] <Skaag> ElliotH: I've seen some motherboard with weird hardware, like on-board sata raid, etc.
[02:08] <RvGaTe> Nameeater, ok...
[02:08] <Skaag> ElliotH: but i'm surprised it does not detect it
[02:09] <ElliotH> Skaag: I got an HP ex-media centre one, and it worked before in SuSE
[02:09] <Rug> ElliotH: have you check with /var/log/dmesg to see if any oddness was being logged?
[02:09] <fissy> hello... does anyone know if ubuntu edgy can be installed (and run) from a usb disk
[02:09] <Skaag> ElliotH: what are the symptoms again? (sorry if I missed that part)
[02:09] <sladen> fissy: yes, and yes
[02:09] <ElliotH> Rug: I doubt it will exist, but I can try
[02:09] <ElliotH> Skaag: The installation from liveCD freezes at copying files
[02:09] <Storkme> wtf
[02:09] <Skaag> ElliotH: You can always do: dmesg | less, even if the file could not be created
[02:10] <fissy> sladen, thanks. Do you know when that feature was added, because I have older versions of ubuntu which let you install to a usb disk but cannot boot
[02:10] <ElliotH> Skaag: what is dmesg less?
[02:10] <Abst> fissy: We just had someone in not able to boot Dapper from a USB, so recently I guess
[02:10] <Skaag> ElliotH: so it managed to partition the drive fine but can't copy files, sounds like a drive problem to me, or it could be bios settings pertaining to your sata compatibility etc.
[02:10] <erUSUL> linnuxxy: this files are in xkeyboard-config you can try to somehow reinstall it
[02:10] <Skaag> ElliotH: dmesg is a command to show you the kernel log since boot
[02:10] <Skaag> ElliotH: and |less will allow you to page it so you can view it comfortably
[02:10] <fissy> Abst: ok, thanks
[02:11] <Skaag> ElliotH: the | is important (pipe)
[02:11] <Abst> Also #ubuntu+1 is the Edgy channel if you need it
[02:11] <Rug> fissy: booting USB depends on 2 things, a) a motherboard that supports it.  Or b) hacking the /boot grub to point to the USB drive.
[02:11] <Storkme> if i have an executable in /home/alex/progs/lineakd/lineakd how do i make that accessible from anywhere?
[02:11] <Skaag> ElliotH: check if your mobo has some SATA setting that allows compatibility of some sort
[02:11] <Skaag> ElliotH: in the bios settings, that is
[02:11] <fissy> fedora core 6  boots fine from a usb disk on that computer, but i'd prefer to use ubuntu for various reasons
[02:11] <ElliotH> Skaag: it doesn't boot at all, it can't save anything (Where is the pipe on a US keyboard mapped to?) and yes I will check
[02:11] <plc> help! dapper 64bit mplayer 32 problem
[02:11] <jrib> Storkme: put a symlink to it somewhere in your PATH
[02:12] <Skaag> ElliotH: pipe is shift \
[02:12] <Skaag> ElliotH: but did it partition the drive?
[02:12] <ElliotH> Skaag: That works when I have a brittish english keyboard setup, but on this it gives me a > and yes it did partition the drive
[02:12] <kingace1> I'm back
[02:12] <kingace1> it booted fine without the USB disk
[02:13] <Skaag> ElliotH: so it did manage to write to the drive up to a certain point?
[02:13] <kingace1> but then it failed to load X
[02:13] <ElliotH> Skaag: Nope, not at all
[02:13] <kingace1> any ideas?
[02:13] <Rug> kingace1: glad to hear it
[02:13] <Skaag> ElliotH: if you ALT-F2 and get a prompt, then run fdisk on your drive, do you see the correct partition table?
[02:13] <Rug> ack
[02:13] <johseelig> list
[02:13] <johseelig> hi
[02:13] <Abst> Hey
[02:13] <Rug> kingace1: what were the error messages?
[02:14] <linnuxxy> how can i reinstall package with apt? i need to repare some files in the 'xkeyboard-config' package
[02:14] <kingace1> crap...
[02:14] <kingace1> let me do it again
[02:14] <ElliotH> Skaag: it can't find SDA where I am pretty sure its mounted to
[02:14] <kingace1> and ill write it down
[02:14] <Skaag> by the way, anyone here has an external TV connected to an nVidia card's TV Out + working?
[02:14] <kingace1> will u be here in like 20 minutes?
[02:14] <Rug> I've got to run folks, time to watch SGA
[02:14] <Abst> linnuxxy: sudo apt-get remove package; sudo apt-get install package?
[02:14] <Abst> Bye Rug
[02:14] <Skaag> ElliotH: there's your problem then, do you know /dev/sda is your drive for sure? it is possible your SATA is called something else entirely!
[02:14] <ElliotH> Rug: bye
[02:15] <ElliotH> Skaag: the ubuntu installation calls it SDA and the right size
[02:15] <linnuxxy> Abst: alot of dependancies.... that will remove the entire kubuntu system!!!
[02:15] <foxpaul> hi all - does anyone know how i can find out which type of ram my core duo notebook requires?
[02:15] <Skaag> ElliotH: ok. my sata is also /dev/sda over here (asus motherboard)
[02:15] <Skaag> ElliotH: it's just that i've seen other names on some other motherboards, for sata drives.
[02:15] <foxpaul> cat /proc/meminfo just shows the current state of my memory. i'm after hardware info if poss
[02:15] <ElliotH> Skaag: Unable to open
[02:15] <Skaag> ElliotH: but fdisk /dev/sda does not work?
[02:16] <ElliotH> Skaag: Nope, it says unable to open
[02:16] <Skaag> ElliotH: ok so there are only two options here: 1) hardware problem 2) bios settings
[02:16] <Skaag> ElliotH: unless you really do need to load some driver for your sata adapter
[02:16] <Skaag> ElliotH: that's a third option, if bios + hardware are correctly setup and working
[02:16] <ElliotH> Skaag: Pretty sure the hardware is fine, I had XP Media Centre loaded about 2 hours ago. I'll check my BIOS settings
[02:17] <Skaag> ElliotH: good luck mate!
[02:17] <ElliotH> Skaag: Thanks for the help
[02:17] <Skaag> heh, almost done installing ubuntu-desktop.. :-)
[02:17] <Skaag> oh joy
[02:19] <foxpaul> hi all - does anyone know how i can find out which type of ram my core duo notebook requires?
[02:19] <cpk2> foxpaul: look at it?
[02:20] <foxpaul> cpk2, funny
[02:21] <cpk2> foxpaul: no, really it usually says on the stick
[02:21] <foxpaul> cpk2, i need to get it via a script :)
[02:21] <linnuxxy> i have massed with some configuration files in the /etc/X11/xkb/rules/  ... and i forgote to backup it first... how can i restore the default? using apt... download it manully from the CVS?
[02:23] <chibiace> foxpaul: why cant you look at the ram? :S
[02:23] <foxpaul> chibiace, how would a ruby script open my notebook and "look" at the ram?
[02:23] <Abst> Hey
[02:24] <chibiace> foxpaul, why would you want to do that with a script :S
[02:24] <admin_> i can get X to run on tty8, but i cant get xfce to run
[02:24] <admin_> admin@UBUNTUboxx:~$ sudo startxfce4 --display :1
[02:24] <admin_> /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0.0
[02:24] <admin_> xfce4-session: Another session manager is already running
[02:24] <foxpaul> chibiace, not heard of writing software to automate things? such as getting the hardware info from over 100 notebooks?
[02:25] <chibiace> foxpaul, no, looked in /proc?
[02:25] <linnuxxy> it is sudo apt-get --reinstall install xkeyboard-config
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I use rule of 10.  If I need to do the same thing ore than 10 times, I look for a way to automate the process
[02:26] <erUSUL> foxpaul: you want to look to the actual ram or just how much ram does the system have?
[02:26] <foxpaul> erUSUL, ram type and amount
[02:26] <captine> sorry to ask stupid question, but can i do a server install from the desktop iso? or is it best to d/l the server iso?
[02:26] <Subhuman> linnuxxy, no its "sudo apt-get remove xkeyboard-config && apt-get install xkeyboard-config , but have you tried a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkeyboard-config" first?
[02:27] <foxpaul> i've written some scripts that I can run on our machines, and some of our people run ubuntu. it doesn't have some of the proc interfaces that our suse or redhat laptops have
[02:27] <Subhuman> captine, if you want a dedicated server its better to use the server iso
[02:28] <captine> Subhuman: thnx.
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> captine: COuld you explain your reason for the server install.  I was under the assumption that the desktop install just has more added software and the gnome desktop, not that much difference, and the differences could be fixed with apt-get or by removing unwanted software
[02:28] <linnuxxy> Subhuman: this will remove the entire kubuntu destop ... with its apps
[02:29] <linnuxxy> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkeyboard-config" does do anything
[02:29] <Huhn> hello
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Huhn: Hello and welcome
[02:30] <kingace1> I'm back again
[02:30] <kingace1> The error message i got was Fatal X Error 104
[02:31] <Huhn> this question concerns grub: if I have the savedefault command in my menu.lst it will save the selection to the variable "save", so when if I have the line default save it will automatically run the last selection.  my question is now where is this "save" variable stored and can I manipulate it manually
[02:31] <perverted> Hi, whenever i leave my machine idle for a while, when i come back, its at the login screen, does anyone know how i can change this, or if its an error where do i check whats happening? (i have checked power management settings, too)
[02:32] <LadyNikon> perverted: did you check your logs to see if something went nuts?  Did it reboot?
[02:32] <manmadha> is there any diff between windows & linux firewalls????
[02:33] <perverted> im not sure where to check the logs, and im not sure if it rebooted since i come back and its at the login screen
[02:33] <user-land> how can i restart the ubuntu sound servers ?
[02:33] <ompaul> manmadha, lots, but if you are running an out of the box Ubuntu setup you will not need one.
[02:33] <ompaul> !away > dreamthief|away
[02:34] <manmadha> ompaul, can u suggest me the links for it?
[02:34] <manmadha> ompaul, i want the dif
[02:34] <kingace1> why am I getting an X IO error 104 when I boot from the disk?
[02:35] <kingace1> could it be because im using amd64 disk?
[02:35] <adaran> hey everyone, i have a hardware question (it's not strictly ubuntu, but maybe someone knows?): i have a powerbook g4, out of which i took a piece of 256 MB DDR2 533 RAM - now i gave that to a friend with a non-ppc laptop. however, when inserting the ram, the thing doesn't boot anymore. am i missing something?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Huhn: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> default		0
[02:35] <Huhn> Yeah.
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, I cant believe I did that..
[02:36] <ompaul> manmadha, they are for different systems, you can do an awful lot with it, they tend to me more configurable, there is no compare and contrast with it, windows ones tend to be to protect a single box the linux ones can be used for a single box up to a whole network with configurations for all sorts of stuff
[02:36] <Huhn> Jack_Sparrow:  I know how the stuff works, my question is whether I can manipulate the saved variable, cos I'm still looking for a way to preselect the os to be chosen for the next reboot (just once)
[02:36] <user-land> what did you do, jack_sparrow ?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I pasted, when I tell all the time for people not to paste,
[02:37] <llslim> when i have a package update, where do i find the changes made in the pkg aka change log, are there someplace in my file tree to look, or a place on-line? obviously I'm new to deb/ubuntu way of doing things.
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Huhn: JUst edit the file with the command I gave in line 1 and make default anything you want
[02:38] <Samuli^> uhh, how do I change the window theme from cgwd themer. It just doesn't do anything.
[02:38] <Huhn> Jack_Sparrow:  I don't want to change the default permanently. I just wanna change it for once.
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Nope
[02:38] <perverted> i checked syslog and it says: GConf server is not in use, shutting down; would this cause the system to go back to login screen and logout the user ?
[02:38] <ompaul> manmadha, research "iptables" and then consider that all linux firewalls are really front ends for iptables
[02:39] <user-land> jack_sparrow, 3 lines are better pasted then a one line link.
[02:39] <manmadha> ompaul, thank u
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Huhn: You could go nuts and write a script that swaps in different grub menu lists but I think you were looking for something simpler
[02:40] <elmargol> damn alsa, my soundcards change the number on every reboot :/
[02:40] <user-land> alsa, elmargol ? are you on the latest ubuntu ?
[02:40] <finalbeta> elmargol, you've got a webcam, you can fix that tho, don't remember how :p
[02:41] <elmargol> user-land: yes I'm on edgy
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: thanks, I am still sucking down my first cup of coffee... thankfully, the room is quiet at this time
[02:41] <Huhn> Jack_Sparrow:  yes I'm looking for a simple solution, and I think that I could find that solution with the savedefault thingie
[02:42] <rolf> Anybody got a clue with VLC and WMV in Ubuntu?
[02:42] <user-land> elmargol, is that the newest beta ?
[02:42] <rolf> I'm trying to play a WMV file with VLC, cant quite make it work. Suggestions?
[02:42] <elmargol> user-land: ? there is no beta atm...
[02:43] <rolf> Anybody ?
[02:43] <elmargol> 28.09.2006 is the beta release
[02:43] <Subhuman> rolf, some wmvs wontplay
[02:43] <Subhuman> like wmv9 for exapl
[02:44] <Roconda> what identd deamon use Xchat?
[02:45] <Speedloppa> Subhuman: So what you are saying is, if it doesnt work, it wont ever work?
[02:45] <user-land> edgy is an alpha/beta, elmargol.
[02:46] <jrib> Roconda: use xine or mplayer for WMV3, vlc will only play them if you recompile, which imo is not worth it
[02:46] <KenSentMe> Hi people, since yesterday when i start my system my 3d drivers aren't loaded anymore and i have to use mesa. I get this message in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23631 . X runs, but my games aren't. Anyone have an idea what i can do?
[02:46] <Roconda> jrib: I mean for IRC
[02:46] <Subhuman> Speedloppa, no, its just it hasnt been decrypted, well it has - dvd jon has done it, but he hasnt released it (AFAIK)
[02:46] <Speedloppa> jrib: mplayer wont work with my platform I think.
[02:46] <jrib> Roconda: sorry, wrong name, I meant rolf but he left or changed names?
[02:46] <Buckus> Does anyone have WG511T by netgear? got some problems with it
[02:47] <Roconda> np jrib ;)
[02:47] <Speedloppa> rolf is rather n00b at irc, so he left to change his name actually, so jeah, its me right now. ; )
[02:47] <dcroce> hey guys, anyone know which codex i need to download to watch video? i can hear sound and everything but i cant see video such as going to foxnews.com ! any suggestions?
[02:47] <Subhuman> Buckus, is that really a ubuntu question?
[02:47] <Subhuman> and
[02:47] <Subhuman> !anyone
[02:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:47] <Speedloppa> jrib, this xine, how do I make that work now?
[02:47] <jrib> Speedloppa: what platform are you one?
[02:47] <user-land> so the only way to restore sound on ubuntu 6.06 is to log out ?
[02:48] <Speedloppa> Ubuntu something.
[02:48] <jrib> Speedloppa: are you using amd64 or ppc?
[02:48] <manmadha> how to change firewallsettings in linux???
[02:48] <jrib> !firewall
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[02:48] <dreameen> hi ya
[02:48] <Speedloppa> Well, certainly not AMD64, so the other one then.
[02:48] <jrib> Speedloppa: you have an apple computer?
[02:49] <dreameen> how to disable the freakin filesystem checking each time i boot ubuntu!!!
[02:49] <Speedloppa> Regular PC.
[02:49] <Speedloppa> Intel P4.
[02:49] <jrib> Speedloppa: ok, so mplayer should work fine
[02:49] <perverted> anyone have experience with the error "GConf server is not in use, shutting down." causing logouts / shutdowns ?
[02:49] <Speedloppa> Didnt say so?
[02:49] <dcroce> codecs for watching videos online???? such as foxnews.com
[02:49] <jrib> Speedloppa: and xine too if you prefer.  Just install either mplayer or xine and be sure to get the w32codecs
[02:49] <jrib> !w32codecs > Speedloppa
[02:50] <grimboy> !w32codecs > dcroce
[02:50] <SillyZ> is there anyway to set the trashcan to autodelete instead of moving to trash then having to empty it later?
[02:50] <Speedloppa> Well, on my way with mplayer now actually.
[02:50] <predaeus> perverted: I found a forum entry for that topic, but it wasnt answered. At least u r not alone.
[02:50] <AndroidData> I installed multiple media players. now I want to select a default. is there a way of doing this?
[02:50] <Speedloppa> So here goes.
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Buckus: What is the problem you have with your netgear?
[02:51] <Speedloppa> jrib: had to insert the disc to install mplayer?
[02:51] <dreameen> most unhelpful place on the web*
[02:51] <dcroce> grimboy thanks but i installed these last night hmm
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > dreameen
[02:51] <predaeus> AndroidData: right click on any the file and select Properties then Open With and tick the default option.
[02:52] <dreameen> lol
[02:52] <dreameen> ur just clueless;>
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> And you are rude
[02:52] <AndroidData> predaeus: ok, thanks.
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > dreameen
[02:52] <grimboy> dcroce, You might need to install the firefox plugins for xine mplayer etc.
[02:52] <ompaul> dreameen, it checks only every 30th or so time - are you not turning it off correctly?
[02:52] <jrib> Speedloppa: it's not necessary.  It will prompt you for your cd if you have the cd repository includes in your sources.list.  You can safely remove it and just use the online repositories
[02:53] <jrib> Speedloppa: s/includes/included
[02:53] <dreameen> ompaul: its checking fat32 filesystems on each boot
[02:53] <ompaul> dreameen, glad to say I know nothing of that FS so I can't help you there
[02:53] <Pelias> hi everyone.
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Normally only does a test every 30th boot
[02:54] <dcroce> grimboy i think i did that too.. i installed this one mozilla-mplayer
[02:54] <ompaul> At0miku, please don't change your nick in here - if all 800+ of us did it the channel would not be usable
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> dreameen: It doe not check my fat32 every time
[02:54] <Speedloppa> jrib: how do I remove that easily then?
[02:54] <Speedloppa> I'
[02:54] <Speedloppa> I'm not quite in to using those codes.
[02:54] <dreameen> Jack_Sparrow: maybe you do not notice it, but it is there
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Fix the problem
[02:55] <dreameen> ompaul: fair enough
[02:55] <grimboy> dcroce, I find mplayer doesn't play everything, best to install as many of the plugins possible, I think there are ones for at least one or two of totem xine and vlc as well.
[02:55] <jrib> Speedloppa: system > administration > synaptic: settings > repositories
[02:55] <Decadent> in order to open a *.doc with open office what do i need??
[02:55] <dcroce> grimboy ok i'll search around and see which ones i can find for firefox, thanks
[02:56] <Pelias> I have 2xSATA2 hdds running windows, filled with valueable data up to roof and without any unpartitioned space. Can I install ubuntu on it without losing everything I have on my hdds?
[02:56] <ompaul> Decadent, to click on file open
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Decadent: oo shold just open it... what program made the doc?
[02:56] <Speedloppa> Got damnit, what is repositories in norwegian then? Is that like archives?
[02:56] <Speedloppa> jrib
[02:56] <Decadent> well it doen't open them :S
[02:56] <dreameen> im going to remove checkfs from my init.d and see if that helps
[02:57] <Pelias> forgot to mention. Those diskcs are running in RAID0 mode
[02:57] <Decadent> i think ms office 2003
[02:57] <jrib> Speedloppa: repository is just an online storage place for a bunch of packages
[02:57] <Decadent> but im not sure
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > Pelias
[02:57] <foxhunte1> Pelias: you must be very brave if you try this without a backup... just think of a power cut or how this is called :-)
[02:57] <ompaul> Decadent, so is it password protected?
[02:57] <Decadent> no
[02:57] <ompaul> nicu, please don't change your nick in here - if all 800+ of us did it the channel would not be usable
[02:57] <Speedloppa> jrib, awwrighty, here goes.
[02:58] <Decadent> i didn;t used to have problems but now it doesnt open it!!
[02:58] <h1337> hi, i'm having trouble playing a *ogg video, can anyone help me?
[02:58] <Decadent> didn't*
[02:58] <Speedloppa> well, so far, so good.
[02:58] <ereminii> h1337 install the gstreamer plugins
[02:58] <h1337> thanks
[02:58] <h1337> are they in the universe
[02:58] <ereminii> yeah
[02:59] <ereminii> some are in multiverse
[02:59] <h1337> cool
[02:59] <ereminii> i can ttell u which one they are in exactly
[02:59] <ereminii> i'd just install all
[02:59] <h1337> i would appreciate that
[02:59] <h1337> apt-get install what then?
[02:59] <SillyZ> ok now heres an intresting question, the speaker icon for the sound system on ubuntu here is displayed just to the left of the spacer of where the 'system' icons are next to the clock, how to get it back over to the 'system' area next to the clock? ( and no moving it dosent do the job )
[02:59] <alex_> hi, when i try and install glade via glade-2_2.6.0-6_i386.deb I get an error about my package dependencies, any clues why?
[02:59] <Speedloppa> jrib, well that crashed like a kamikaze, other suggestions? xine?
[02:59] <KenSentMe> Hi people, since yesterday when i start my system my 3d drivers aren't loaded anymore and i have to use mesa. I get this message in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23631 . X runs, but my games aren't. Anyone have an idea what i can do?
[02:59] <ereminii> h1337 umm use synaptic and find gstreamer0.8-plugins-*
[02:59] <h1337> cool
[02:59] <h1337> thx so much
[03:00] <Arttureno> hmmm hello to all... does someone know something about ubuntu + hardware raid0 (I am using silicon image 3112 chip..)...? haven't found much help from google or forums yet...
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelias: There is a way to run the live cd and keep persistent data and programs on a usbstick or drive.  But getting Ubuntu to work on that raid setup is not advised
[03:00] <jrib> Speedloppa: um, can you run 'mplayer /path/to/file.wmv' and post the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[03:00] <jrib> Speedloppa: you should run this in applications > accessories > terminal
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Oh, I know it is offtopic..  But I saw a Windows program that included ogg in the type of files it played.  Linux is making headway.
[03:02] <Speedloppa> jrib, to much work makes loppa go boom. Me try xine.
[03:02] <ereminii> KenSentMe you did any updates recentely
[03:02] <ereminii> 'cause it seems like a kernel-module version missmatch
[03:02] <KenSentMe> ereminii: yes i did, the kernel updates, but there aren't any updates now
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> KenSentMe: Are you running the 686 kernel?
[03:03] <KenSentMe> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[03:03] <Speedloppa> jrib, how do i kill apps? I got one piece of swing-o-ma-jigg VLC not wanting to shut down.
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> KenSentMe: DO you have the 386 installed as well...
[03:03] <ereminii> there's a command to regenerate the modules, that might help
[03:03] <KenSentMe> Jack_Sparrow: i think s
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> KenSentMe: I know it isnt a fix... But boot to that.. and see if you have games back..
[03:04] <dreameen> it worked
[03:04] <jrib> Speedloppa: a couple of ways, you can do 'killall name_of_app', or 'xkill' and then click on t he offending window, or system > administration > system monitor and kill it from there
[03:04] <fistfullofroses> type ps -A and that will print your processes
[03:04] <dreameen> thanks for nothing, i helped myself..
[03:04] <fistfullofroses> and then you type in the pid it gives for said app
[03:04] <fistfullofroses> after typing kill
[03:04] <ereminii> KenSentMe and try to reinstall restricted-modules
[03:04] <fistfullofroses> so you would do ps -A
[03:04] <fistfullofroses> and then you would do kill 1111
[03:04] <leleobhz> hello all!
[03:05] <leleobhz> plz, ive installed kubuntu on my machine
[03:05] <Speedloppa> tried killall vlc, didnt work. Killed less than my grandma on a spree.
[03:05] <leleobhz> and it on english
[03:05] <leleobhz> and i want it in portuguese
[03:05] <dreameen> useless
[03:05] <leleobhz> but the kde-i18n-ptbr are brokened
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt
[03:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:05] <Speedloppa> jrib: and xine gives me a wmvdmod.dll missing or something.
[03:05] <Buckus> what command to list all network interfaces? :(
[03:05] <ereminii> ifconfig
[03:05] <jrib> Speedloppa: have you install w32codecs?
[03:05] <Buckus> oh yeh ty
[03:06] <ereminii> np
[03:06] <Speedloppa> fistfullofroses: that did the trick, now for the actually making something work and not kill it part.
[03:07] <Speedloppa> jrib: how do i install those codecs. (Guess I havent then)
[03:07] <alex_> i've got an error which says: glib not installed; any clue how i can fix this?
[03:07] <jrib> !w32codecs > Speedloppa
[03:07] <jrib> Speedloppa: they are on the restricted wiki page
[03:07] <alex_> (in the terminal, when running ./autogen.sh
[03:07] <jrib> alex_: install glib?
[03:07] <foxhunter> alex_: try apt-get install libc6-dev
[03:07] <alex_> thanks
[03:07] <Speedloppa> jrib: !w32codecs > Speedloppa what does that mean, I type it somewhere or what?
[03:07] <ereminii> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[03:07] <ereminii> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \
[03:07] <ereminii> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse w32codecs
[03:07] <chowdaryharsha> hi......can anyone tell me how to extract .rar files
[03:08] <leleobhz> someone can help me?
[03:08] <jrib> Speedloppa: ubotu should have sent you a message with the info
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[03:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:08] <lillpelle> chowdaryharsha: with unrar (in the repos). Do unrar x -r file.rar
[03:08] <ereminii> leleobhz i am sure kubuntu has their irc chan ask there
[03:08] <Speedloppa> jrib: oh really, havent quite been out for the mail in a couple of years, so cant really tell.
[03:08] <chowdaryharsha> lillpelle, how can we do it??
[03:09] <leleobhz> ok
[03:09] <Speedloppa> jrib: could you make it a bit easier? I have to.. What? Jump and bear-attack wikipedia?
[03:09] <lillpelle> chowdaryharsha: either read what I wrote, or reed what Jack_Sparrow got ubotu to tell...
[03:09] <alex_> foxhunter, I tried as you suggested; it downloaded an update but the error still remains. Its a glade application autogen file im running (if that helps)
[03:09] <jrib> Speedloppa: did you get the link to the restricted wiki page?
[03:09] <chowdaryharsha> how to unrar that....??
[03:10] <foxhunter> alex_: oh, glade, sorry, than try libglib1.2-dev or/and libglib2.0-dev
[03:10] <chowdaryharsha> lillpelle, how to unrar that??? sorry i cant get u
[03:10] <Speedloppa> jrib: no cant seem to have gotten that, no.
[03:10] <ereminii> Speedloppa add the multiverse and univers repos and then install w32codecs
[03:10] <foxhunter> alex_: i was thinking of glibc, sorry :)
[03:10] <jrib> !w32codecs
[03:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar > chowdaryharsha
[03:10] <lillpelle> chowdaryharsha: I wrote: "Do unrar x -r file.rar" <-- what is unclear?
[03:10] <jrib> Speedloppa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats search this page for w32codecs and follow the isntructions
[03:11] <Speedloppa> jrib: on it.
[03:11] <chowdaryharsha> lillpelle, how to do it??
[03:11] <alex_> works
[03:11] <ereminii> chowdaryharsha type it in the terminal
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: You have all the info you need.  Read the answers you were given
[03:12] <foxhunter> alex_: you're welcome :-)
[03:12] <alex_> (though I get an error there is no acceptible C compiler)
[03:12] <ereminii> but the gnome unarchiver should be able to do it
[03:12] <SiLOX> vncserver in blackbox? how do i edit it so it's view only? :P
[03:12] <chowdaryharsha> lillpelle, thank u
[03:12] <foxhunter> alex_: try apt-get install build-essential
[03:12] <alex_> do i need to install gcc (or something?, ive come from fedora, where it was all already there)
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lillpelle: You gotta wonder what is in that rar eh?
[03:13] <ereminii> lol
[03:13] <lillpelle> Jack_Sparrow: hehe, right :)
[03:13] <KenSentMe> Jack_Sparrow: i've booted to an onder 686 kernel (25) because the 386 wasn't in my grub list anymore. Now i get this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23633
[03:13] <Speedloppa> jrib: I dont get any results.
[03:13] <chowdaryharsha> lillpelle,  do unrar x-r file.rar
[03:13] <chowdaryharsha> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[03:13] <alex_> foxhunter,  that worked (again, thanks man!), but now; No package GTK+-2.0 found
[03:13] <chowdaryharsha> lillpelle,  its coming like that
[03:13] <jrib> Speedloppa: can you be more specific?  Did w32codecs install?
[03:14] <lillpelle> chowdaryharsha: only "unrar x -r file.rar"
[03:14] <Speedloppa> jrib: I just did a search on that url you gave me, returned 0 results or what-ya-ma-kall-it.
[03:14] <foxhunter> alex_: apt-cache search gtk+2.0 dev --> will show you: libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[03:14] <ereminii> KenSentMe thats one funky error message
[03:15] <jrib> Speedloppa: on the table of contents, it is 5.4 Windows Codecs (w32codecs)
[03:15] <foxhunter> alex_: dev is for development (this is what you need for compiling own stuff)
[03:15] <ereminii> KenSentMe did you try reinstalling restricted-modules
[03:16] <grimboy> Can anyone help me with my bash script (http://pastebin.ca/172988)? It's very simple. What I want to do is kill X, switch configuration file then start X again.
[03:16] <chowdaryharsha> lillpelle, its not coming yar.....its coming unexpected error
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> KenSentMe: try restricted modules but i must ask  if you ever ran !automatix or easyubuntu (No I am NOT recommending them)
[03:16] <alex_> foxhunter, $ apt-cache search gtk+2.0 dev || libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> lillpelle: Cant say we didnt see it comming...
[03:16] <lillpelle> chowdaryharsha: ok. if you want help with it, put it on pastebin.ca or so, so we can see what error you get
[03:16] <alex_> I still dont understand why it wont let me compile it
[03:16] <KenSentMe> Jack_Sparrow: nope, didn't use those
[03:17] <Speedloppa> jrib, well, now i got it. SO getting it now. Kinda.
[03:17] <KenSentMe> ereminii: i'm going to reboot now, see what happens
[03:17] <foxhunter> alex_: did you install libgtk2.0-dev ?
[03:17] <Speedloppa> Naa mean, Ims likes downloadins its.
[03:17] <foxhunter> alex_: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[03:17] <alex_> yes
[03:17] <kopekolduren> Ono
[03:17] <Ono> bassam
[03:17] <foxhunter> alex_: ok, whats the next error message?
[03:17] <kopekolduren> sana atlim
[03:17] <superkirbyartist> I would like help with getting VLC set up as my default player.
[03:17] <Speedloppa> 75% done.
[03:17] <jrib> alex_: is there any reason you are compiling glade when it is available in the repositories?
[03:17] <kopekolduren> % 31 done
[03:17] <IRC_> i just turned on my computer and the resolution is at 640x480. how do i edit the xorg file to make it bigger?
[03:18] <alex_> i want to compile the source glade generated for me
[03:18] <superkirbyartist> I would like help with getting VLC set up as my default player.
[03:18] <Morten_> Hey, I have a problem with my soundcard on my laptop; I can only have 1 application with sound at 1 time.. XMMS says that i need to reconfigure my soundcard; how do i do that?
[03:19] <alex_> foxhunter, its working now
[03:19] <Speedloppa> jrib: Now it works. Thanks m8! : )
[03:19] <IRC_> i just turned on my computer and the resolution is at 640x480. how do i edit the xorg file to make it bigger?
[03:19] <alex_> *fight the ban* :)
[03:19] <bryanl> is there a text installer in ubuntu 6.06?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: What program are you trying to install from that rar  ?
[03:20] <jrib> bryanl: yes, use the alternate install cd
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa > Morten_
[03:20] <foxhunter> alex_: ok, have a nice programming time with glade :)
[03:20] <chowdaryharsha> Jack_Sparrow, actually i downloaded wallpapers..they r in .rar format
[03:21] <KenSentMe> ereminii, Jack_Sparrow: didn't help. reinstalled restricted modules, but same problem
[03:21] <kingace1> hello all
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[03:21] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:21] <kingace1> I'm getting a Fatal IO error 104 on X Server when I boot from CD
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: So they are just a bunch of pictures...
[03:22] <kingace1> how can I fix this?
[03:22] <chowdaryharsha> Jack_Sparrow, yes......they r important...how to unrar them
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: or is it a wallpaper program with changing wallpapers and such
[03:22] <chowdaryharsha> Jack_Sparrow, no they r bunch of wallpapers
[03:23] <ereminii> chowdaryharsha what exactly is the prob
[03:23] <chowdaryharsha> Jack_Sparrow, dont know
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: THe command you got will unpack simple files, htere is more to the problem.  I take it you did not create the rar?
[03:24] <Morten_> Jack_Sparrow, that didn't work, with or without alsa
[03:25] <Morten_> !changetheme
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Morten_: It is a common problem, the info should be there but if not I would need to look, and I am working a couple of other problems first
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: Post the full error or send one of us the rar to look at..
[03:26] <Morten_> thats okay, ill search the forums some more :)
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Morten_: to change the theme just open the theme manager and drop the tar onto it..
[03:27] <Morten_> ohhh, easy
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> gnome-look.org
[03:29] <adminx> Good Morning everyone
[03:29] <ereminii> morning
[03:31] <wonder_> hi
[03:31] <jaypim> hi
[03:32] <wonder_> i have a problem with power manager in gnome
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> 874 people say Hello and Welcome
[03:32] <kingace1> how does opensuse compare with ubuntu
[03:32] <adminx> Close, I perfer Ubuntu
[03:32] <ereminii> opensuse's icons are ugly :(
[03:32] <hume> I'm trying to install an Epson Stylus Photo R340 printer, but get the error (from Kprinter) that the driver is not available or I don't have perminssions - do it as administrator and gutenprint seems installed - anyone got advice?
[03:32] <wonder_> anyone can help me solve it (i'm using ubuntu )
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> kingace1: that discussion would be better off in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[03:33] <ereminii> if u discribe the problem may be...
[03:33] <wonder_> power-manager give me black screen after 10 min
[03:33] <LDS_Trooper> How do I add "Universe"
[03:33] <wonder_> and i have set it to never
[03:33] <wonder_> so i can watch movie in peace
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> LDS_Trooper: system-admin-synaptic-repos-add
[03:34] <LDS_Trooper> Jack thanks...
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:34] <LDS_Trooper> Jack_Sparrow, my wife just installed Breezy and then did the updates
[03:34] <wonder_> any idea ???
[03:34] <adminx> Just purchased Ubuntu Unleashed from MicroCenter last night, Looks good on the surface, Has anyone esle looked at this book yet?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> wonder_: could it be set in your bios?
[03:35] <LDS_Trooper> Now everything has regressed on her... I think its because she didn't have Universe added
[03:35] <wonder_> you thing could be ^
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> wonder_: or are you sure it is in Ubuntu
[03:35] <jaypim> adminx: is it a good book ? have you read a few chapters ?
[03:35] <wonder_> i disable the one of ubuntu
[03:35] <wonder_> Jack_ :so i don't' understand
[03:36] <eXistenZ> How can I add the bash commands to the man?
[03:36] <adminx> jaypim, just started reading the intro last night.
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wonder_: There are power settings in the cmos/bios that could also be the problem
[03:36] <wonder_> ok i can try cange bios
[03:36] <jaypim> adminx: ah
[03:36] <wonder_> and reboot
[03:36] <adminx> Plan to read more today
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wonder_: Just a thought
[03:36] <wonder_> see you soon thnks
[03:36] <adminx> Looks good so far.
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> The book Ubuntu Hacks.. is excellent
[03:38] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Where did you get the book from?
[03:38] <pooh_beawr> hello, is it just me or does the file finder just straight up sucks and misses files right in front or your eyes.
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> amazon
[03:38] <jrib> eXistenZ: what do you mean?
[03:38] <eXistenZ> jrib, man umask doesn't work
[03:38] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks
[03:38] <jrib> eXistenZ: help umask
[03:38] <eXistenZ> jrib, It is a command specific to bash
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: it was about 1/3 the cover price
[03:38] <adminx> Jack_Sparrow, Yes lots of neat Tips. (Ubuntu Hacks)
[03:38] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah amazon has good deals on books in general :)
[03:39] <pooh_beawr> I mean, is there a third party "search my computer" (for files and folders) that works well?
[03:39] <LDS_Trooper> How do you get the user list in XChat to show on the right?
[03:39] <g-nome> any ubuntu 64 bit channel?
[03:40] <mwe> LDS_Trooper: it does here
[03:40] <rob> LDS_Trooper: its in the settings -> preferences dialo
[03:40] <rob> s/dialo/dialog
[03:40] <psynaps3> folks, any idea as to why torrent is very slow (download wise) on my xubuntu installation?
[03:40] <psynaps3> i have tried both qBittorrent and the official Bittorrent client
[03:40] <rob> psynaps3: are the correct ports forwared on your router?
[03:41] <mrlo> hello, i'm having trouble connecting to a lan network, w/ dhcp server. i tried man 5 interfaces, but surely still doing something dumb.
[03:41] <SillyZ> could be the tracker thats being used, the number of folks on that tracker thats actually uploading, and or if you connected to multiple networks or not
[03:41] <psynaps3> rob: its directly connected to the cable modem.. and i have made sure that the default port is open
[03:41] <LDS_Trooper> I don't see "dialog"
[03:41] <mrlo> is this the right place to ask?
[03:41] <SillyZ> What torrent application are you using?
[03:41] <rob> psynaps3: there is a range
[03:41] <psynaps3> rob: 6881 to 6889
[03:41] <rob> LDS_Trooper: click on the preferences menu item
[03:41] <psynaps3> SillyZ: official client as well as qBittorrent
[03:42] <SillyZ> psynaps3: try azureus
[03:42] <LDS_Trooper> I have Interface, Chatting, and Network
[03:42] <psynaps3> SillyZ: there are over 2500 seeds and almost 20k leechers :)
[03:42] <rob> eek, no try either Rufus or Ktorrent (the latter is pretty good)
[03:42] <psynaps3> SillyZ: can't do, the system is very short on resources
[03:43] <rob> bogged down java application just to download stuff is hardly worth it
[03:43] <SillyZ> ah
[03:43] <psynaps3> rob: Ktorrent? would it require the entire kde lib to be downloaded along with it?
[03:43] <rob> Psychobudgie: no
[03:43] <SillyZ> find a good ftp site and just download the .iso from there, will more than likely be a better speed than a torrent network anyway
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> psynaps3: I run several kde apps in Ubuntu...
[03:44] <psynaps3> SillyZ: that doesn't solve my problem in any way
[03:44] <SillyZ> thought you were tyring to download the .iso for ubuntu
[03:44] <psynaps3> the thing is that i can see that the upload speed is maxed up to my setting, but the download is somewhere around the 2-3 kBps range
[03:44] <psynaps3> SillyZ: nope :)
[03:44] <SillyZ> nm then
[03:44] <SillyZ> my bad
[03:45] <LDS_Trooper> rob, I do not see "dialog" and I am on version 2.6.1
[03:45] <SillyZ> I use azureus, allows for multiple network connects, and you can set the max number of inbound/outbound connections to unlimited
[03:45] <psynaps3> SillyZ: no probs :) never had any problems with torrents when using uTorrent
[03:45] <icet> I'm getting this message while trying to install libwnck-dev, can somebody help me?
[03:45] <icet>        The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[03:45] <icet>             libwnck-dev: Depends: libwnck18 (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:45] <rob> LDS_Trooper: "dialog" is the name of the window that appears, its a "dialog"
[03:45] <SillyZ> are the ports for tcp and udp open to that box your on now in your router?
[03:45] <psynaps3> SillyZ: yes, they are
[03:46] <SillyZ> psynaps3: k, just checking
[03:46] <psynaps3> I am wondering if there are any settings that i would need to change in the distribution per se
[03:46] <SillyZ> psynaps3: what kinda speed you getting?
[03:46] <rob> psynaps3: firewall or something not blocking them?
[03:46] <LDS_Trooper> So you mean the XChat: Preferences window that pops up?
[03:46] <mwe> icet: broken sources.list probably or you didn't update
[03:46] <rob> LDS_Trooper: yes
[03:46] <LDS_Trooper> ok.. I do not see a setting to turn the user list on...
[03:46] <psynaps3> SillyZ: d/l - 2 - 3 kBps, upload - 14 kBps (user setting)
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> icet: Have you changed your sources list manually or with a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu?
[03:47] <rob> LDS_Trooper: its there somewhere, look
[03:47] <icet> easyubuntu
[03:47] <psynaps3> rob: nope, pretty sure thats not the case
[03:47] <icet> should I undu it?
[03:47] <SillyZ> psynaps3: and theres over 2500 connected and your getting that low of a speed?.... do you have encryption enabled?
[03:47] <icet> undo
[03:47] <psynaps3> SillyZ: nope, no encryption
[03:47] <SillyZ> psynaps3: that might be half the problem right there being unable to connect to clients that reuqire encryption
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> icet: Not that easy... Sort of like Un-pregnant
[03:48] <psynaps3> SillyZ: ah, do is encryption enabled by default on uTorrent? because i didn't make any changes with uTorrent that i can think of
[03:48] <SillyZ> psynaps3: join #sillyz we can take this over there
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> icet: You can try rebuilding your sources...   (There is a reason we tell people NOT to use those)
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > icet
[03:49] <Undisclosed1> How can one set the MTU in Ubuntu to tweak for DSL?
[03:50] <LDS_Trooper> Hmmm we cannot find it...
[03:50] <LDS_Trooper> My Wife's "userlist" settings are the same as mine
[03:51] <rob> LDS_Trooper: just click on the bar and drag it across, you should see the nicklist
[03:52] <rmd> is there a way to keep ubuntu from linking to other mounted disks from the desktop?  i cannot right click and remove the icons...
[03:52] <LDS_Trooper> ah-ha! there it is.. thanks!
[03:52] <LDS_Trooper> rob, we thought it was a setting
[03:52] <rob> it is, gui_ulist_hide
[03:52] <LDS_Trooper> thanks again guys... this channel is awesome!
[03:52] <LDS_Trooper> laters
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> rmd Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[03:53] <rob> must have removed it from the dialog at some point, but one can /set it in any case
[03:53] <rmd> Jack_Sparrow:  thanks loads
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:54] <rmd> Jack_Sparrow:  that program isn't linked anywhere in the menu?
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> from terminal
[03:55] <rmd> yeah, i got it.  i just wonder why there is no menu entry for it
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> applications... accessories...termina'
[03:55] <rmd> for gconf-editor
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> You dont need it very often
[03:56] <rmd> i dont need language support ever, but it is there :)
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> People that need to change languages need easier help
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> rmd: Not going to debate the point..  It is easy enough to add..
[03:57] <rmd> fair enough
[03:57] <rmd> hmm
[03:57] <rmd> my panel is freaking out
[03:57] <dcroce> is flash 9 out for linux?
[03:58] <sarikan> hi, how can I get a static ip from wireless network?
[03:58] <sarikan> network management applet
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> rmd: freaking out in what way
[03:58] <wizard_> Hi all upgraded to 6.06 and now I mount a ntfs drive all good.. run xmms to play an mp3.. not long after ubuntu freezes.. have to reboot any ideas?
[03:58] <sarikan> does not have an option for this, and it does not seem to care about the config form the system menu
[03:58] <predaeus> rmd: I think you can enable the menu entry for gconf-editor with alacarte
[03:59] <sarikan> wizard: did you try to run xmms as root?
[03:59] <sarikan> for the console try sudo -b xmms
[03:59] <wizard_> i opened nautilus by su'ing as root.. then opening the mp3
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: gksudo for nautilus
[04:00] <wizard_> ok let me try thanks
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: sudo nautilus leads to trouble
[04:00] <Darkvador> hi, I have this problem that i've been trying to solve for 3 days now
[04:00] <sarikan> anyone with ideas about static ip over wireless?
[04:00] <dcroce> grimboy: you still around?
[04:00] <Darkvador> I've searched for an answer everywhere I could
[04:00] <Darkvador> and found nothing
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: Once you trash permissions running gui app with sud it is hard to get back..
[04:01] <dcroce> sarikan: go to your network settings and enter in a static ip
[04:01] <sarikan> dcroce: I did it, but network applet does not care about it
[04:01] <wizard_> ok thanks Jack_Sparrow
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:02] <dcroce> sarikan: what do you mean it doesnt care about it?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: kdesu if running Kubuntu/KDE
[04:02] <sarikan> I have changed the settings from network settings
[04:02] <sarikan> but I connect to wpa using network applet
[04:02] <Darkvador> so here it is: I have an external harddrive connected in usb to my laptop and I want to share it using samba, but when i try to access it from a computer in the network, there is always this error about not having the right permissions or the disk not being available, any ideas?
[04:02] <GaiaX11> Could you tell me if there is a music cipher editor to write lyrics in ubuntu?
[04:03] <sarikan> and network applet just gets a dynamic ip
[04:03] <baby> Somebody help me? I want to use grave key (~) to change group of language
[04:03] <rmd> that was the first time i had to restart my computer with ubuntu.
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> rmd: better now?
[04:04] <rmd> Jack_Sparrow:  after i used gconf-editor my DeskBar applet freaked out and my panel stopped responding.
[04:04] <rmd> yeah.  it's all fine now.
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> icons still gone
[04:04] <rmd> but i tried killing the x server and it still didnt work.. bleh
[04:04] <rmd> yeah, icons are still gone
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> good to go
[04:05] <rmd> yes indeed
[04:05] <rmd> thanks again
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> baby: Not sure I understand, you just want to change the default language?>
[04:06] <baby> Jack. I use ubuntu for type document in Thai and English.
[04:07] <bryanl> you don't need a /boot as a separate partition when you are only running one OS on the server, correct?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> baby: I only ask because sometimes people have a preconceived idea as to how something should be done when there is an easier way
[04:07] <jita> can i upgrade to from dapper to edgy without reinstalling ?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> baby: system..admin...language support  ?
[04:08] <python_user> hi everyone
[04:08] <baby> yes
[04:08] <bryanl> jita: you can.  you just need to change /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:08] <python_user> ive been trying to install jdk-6-beta2 on ubuntu 6.06
[04:09] <baby> MS-office use grave key to change.
[04:09] <baby> Thai / English
[04:09] <python_user> but when i try to create a class file
[04:09] <python_user> it displays the following message
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> baby: You want to switch between languages while typing in a word processor.. ah..
[04:09] <baby> Yes
[04:10] <python_user> javac: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:10] <python_user> i currently have the jdk1.6.0 directory installed in my home directory
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> baby: Better questions make for better answers...   But sorry, I dont know how to do that in open office..
[04:10] <python_user> before when i entered javac it just said command not found
[04:11] <python_user> so i copied the java and javac execs to the /usr/local/bin
[04:11] <baby> Ok. thank you.
[04:11] <python_user> but then it just said error while loading libraries
[04:11] <erUSUL> python_user: copy then back to where they were and make links to /usr/local/bin/
[04:11] <uniapel_> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:11] <erUSUL> !es
[04:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:12] <uniapel_> hola nenassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[04:12] <python_user> make links?
[04:12] <ryctor> man, it is as easy as reading the sun-java website instructions
[04:12] <Hodden> python_user: or you can just add the files or java bin dir to the $PATH
[04:12] <python_user> you mean in etc/profile?
[04:12] <Hodden> python_user: or you can just add the files  java/bin dir to the $PATH
[04:13] <erUSUL> python_user: man ln (ln -s /usr/local/bin/ /path/to/binaries )
[04:13] <bryanl> how large can a swap partion be?
[04:13] <ryctor> or you can read what ln -s is?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> bryanl: I dont know that there is a limit on the size
[04:14] <python_user> i heard another option was to install eclipse
[04:14] <wizard_> how do i set default sound card to my sb 5.1 ?
[04:14] <ryctor> dont heard, read
[04:15] <python_user> sorry yes,
[04:15] <python_user> i read
[04:15] <ryctor> what exactly are you trying?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hearding is for cattle and MS users, reading is for Humans
[04:15] <python_user> ive stopped trying now
[04:15] <python_user> given up
[04:15] <ryctor> java?
[04:15] <python_user> java and i are just not meant to be
[04:16] <bryanl> Jack_Sparrow: there used to be... now there isn't
[04:16] <ryctor> i JUST DID
[04:16] <python_user> i installed the binary from sun's website
[04:16] <python_user> installed it
[04:16] <bryanl> Jack_Sparrow: you just need to make sure that you aren't creating large swap partitions and putting them all on one disk/controller... that would suck for performance reasons
[04:16] <python_user> in home directory
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> bryanl: Why would you create more than one and why would you make it more than say 2x your ram?
[04:18] <bryanl> Jack_Sparrow: you don't know how much ram I have ;)
[04:18] <erUSUL> wizard_: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=MultipleCards
[04:19] <ryctor> go to /usr/lib/jvm/java1.5/jre/plugins/i386/ns7 and ln -s or make a link if using gnome and then rename it as the original file
[04:19] <bryanl> Jack_Sparrow: i have 16GB of ram on this server.... a 32 GB file isn't what i would call manageable
[04:19] <baby> 
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> bryanl: Do you have a question or just comments...   I said two times your ram.... I did not imply I knew how much ram you have.
[04:19] <morphix> i totally forgot what parameters i need in fstab to mount a fat32 partition/drive as writable by all users, can someone refresh my memory
[04:19] <bryanl> Jack_Sparrow: so i have 4 controllers and i'm splitting up the swap among the controllers
[04:19] <ryctor> ] copy this link to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins dont forget to doit as sudo
[04:20] <bryanl> Jack_Sparrow: i had a question earlier... now i figured out the answer myself, so the rest is just comments
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bryanl: That is far from a common system.... Until you GIVE specifics we are just taking theroy
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> talking
[04:20] <python_user> thanks ryctor
[04:20] <bryanl> Jack_Sparrow: thats fine
[04:21] <ryctor> better yet , do a sudo nautilus and do it from there
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ryctor: gksudo nautilus
[04:21] <ryctor> let me know if it works
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ryctor: sudo nautilus is asking for troubel
[04:21] <erUSUL> !ntfs > morphix
[04:21] <bryanl> i'll say onething.... install ubuntu with 8 disks on on 4  different controllers is fast as hell
[04:21] <ryctor> why
[04:22] <ryctor> is only file manager as su
[04:22] <pianoboy3333> how do I turn on syntax highlighting in vim?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ryctor: It can mess up permissions and spell disaster.. gksudo is used for gnome gui apps, kdesu for kde gui apps
[04:22] <erUSUL> ryctor: sudo is unsafe for x apps use gksudo
[04:22] <bryanl> pianoboy3333:      :syntax
[04:22] <morphix> erUSUL: i can VIEW the drives, but cant write to it by any users apart from root
[04:22] <ryctor> only for the purposes of linking and copy and pasting if you are not familiar with the shell and simlinks
[04:23] <erUSUL> morphix: umask=0222 ??
[04:23] <Rex> I think this is a FireFox question, so I may get sent packing, but here goes:  I went to shoutcast.com and assigned vlc as the default playback program, but wanted to try somnething else.  Yet, the option (even the listing) of .pls in my download options doesn't exist, and FF doesn't seem to want to allow me to make a new handler...  any suggestions?
[04:23] <pianoboy3333> bryanl: it says it doesn't recognize the buffer, is there a way to force it to use python?
[04:23] <morphix> erUSUL: i cant remember what it is, as i am not on my linux system atm, i am trying to help a friend
[04:24] <erUSUL> morphix: you need to put that option... umask 0222 to the fstab line
[04:24] <wastrel> ubunto
[04:25] <bryanl> pianoboy3333: thats a good question.  i normally would do.... vim file.py
[04:25] <bryanl> pianoboy3333: i'm not sure how to change it while in the editor
[04:26] <pianoboy3333> hmm... ok, for somereason I guess it doesn't like me using #!/usr/bin/env python instead of just #!/usr/bin/python
[04:29] <burnhamd> this morning i turned on my computer to find that ubunto doesnt boot anymore
[04:29] <Vegeta^> How do I copy files from a remote server? when I try scp, I can an error: "cp: cannot create regular file `<dir name>': No such file or directory".. why?
[04:30] <burnhamd> it fails it fails to load hardware drivers
[04:30] <blah> on the livecd i live in Florida, which should i click for the date?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> burnhamd: can you get to recovery mode prompt
[04:31] <wastrel> blah pick nyc
[04:31] <burnhamd> how do i do that
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> burnhamd: when it does not boot what do you see?
[04:32] <burnhamd> never mind i did it
[04:32] <burnhamd> ok in recovery mode
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> burnhamd: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:32] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow: is there anyway to find out why my pc keeps freezing and i need to reboot?
[04:33] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  i did as you said and still froze... is it mounting one of my ntfs drives that is the problem maybe?
[04:33] <burnhamd> actually recovery mode isnt working either
[04:33] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  i checked system log seems ok... cant find much
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: you can look in dmesg.....    Have you used a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu? (NOT recommending that you do.)
[04:34] <burnhamd> it goes like usual until it reaches "reading files need to boot"
[04:34] <wizard_> nope i have not. will check dmesg
[04:34] <burnhamd> oh hang on i found the problem
[04:34] <burnhamd> dang im too stupid
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> burnhamd: we all have our moments
[04:35] <burnhamd> i had a usb device with a u3 launchpad atached
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> burnhamd: problem went away when you unplugged it..
[04:35] <burnhamd> u3 uses a sumilated cd to autorun on windows and linux couldnt get the cd rom to work
[04:35] <burnhamd> yes
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:35] <burnhamd> but there is something that is interesting
[04:36] <burnhamd> usually i cant select items with grub as my usb keyboard/mouse doesnt seem to work with it
[04:36] <wizard_> 17180465.032000]  NTFS-fs warning (device hda5): ntfs_filldir(): Skipping unrepr esentable inode 0x32d6.
[04:36] <wizard_> [17180468.696000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda5): ntfs_ucstonls(): Unicode name con tains characters that cannot be converted to character set cp437.  You might wan t to try to use the mount option nls=utf8.
[04:36] <burnhamd> but when i had the usb drive connected i could move to select
[04:36] <burnhamd> that is very strange
[04:38] <wizard_> doesnt look good hey Jack_Sparrow
[04:38] <Trackilizer> Is there any app i can download from synaptic that can be used to partion and format harddrives, I'm looking for an app that is similar to "Partition Magic"
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: HAve you been writing to your ntfs.. and No it dosent look good
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Trackilizer: gparted
[04:39] <Trackilizer> Jack_Sparrow, Thanks I'll try that one out.
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Trackilizer: good tool
[04:39] <baby> Do you know! Web to teach basic command for ubuntu
[04:40] <sinisterr> after installing openssh-server when i try to login to the server i recieve the key and am asked for a password but password auth fails any ideas why the server doesnt know my passwords for users on my system?
[04:40] <wizard_> no i havent been writing.. just read
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> baby: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[04:40] <jrib> !cli > baby
[04:40] <bieb> Does Linux support SLI?
[04:40] <baby> Thank.
[04:40] <Subhuman> bieb, yes.
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: dual boot I assume... I would go to XP and scandisc and defrag...
[04:41] <baby> I try it.
[04:41] <wizard_> ok thanks Jack_Sparrow   your right
[04:41] <Subhuman> !cli
[04:41] <burnhamd> linux supports almost ever cpu feature of most desktop cpu's out there
[04:41] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:41] <wizard_> gotta love windows :P not
[04:41] <Subhuman> !sli
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I dual boot too
[04:42] <bieb> burn... SLI is video not CPU
[04:42] <burnhamd> oh yea
[04:42] <wizard_> btw dont suppose u know how to set default sound card ?
[04:42] <wizard_> need to set to my sb 5.1
[04:42] <burnhamd> it supports that too
[04:42] <wizard_> no sound in firefox etc...  and system -> sound says some other card
[04:42] <burnhamd> i was thinking something else
[04:42] <dcroce> i cant play any streaming audio from DI.FM can someone help me out?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: NO idea.. sorry, you went to the well one time to often
[04:43] <wizard_> no probs
[04:43] <melia> sinisterr: the password is root
[04:43] <sinisterr> ill try that
[04:44] <deepred> hi
[04:44] <deepred> higen, i'm experiencing problems burning DVD with the automatic DVD creation wizard, well, when i  press Burn  it starts creating Image, then burning goes ... when burnung process ends the dvd is ejected and automatically insered i see: Blank Disk! Windows PC's see it as a blank disk but it's not writeable anymore!
[04:44] <deepred> not for higen sorry :) tab
[04:44] <sinisterr> melia: Permission denied, please try again.
[04:44] <sinisterr> sininsterr@trbonet.serveblog.net's password:
[04:44] <melia> sinisterr: login with root and them ssh ip  and the password the root of other pc
[04:45] <bieb> Burn.. this is what SLI is.. http://www.nvidia.com/object/sli_home.html
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> deepred: I think there is an issue trying to burn dvd iso's
[04:45] <deepred> Jack_Sparrow, not my fault btw :|
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> deepred: No dont think it is your fault..
[04:45] <Subhuman> bieb, the new nvidia drivers support sli.
[04:46] <deepred> K3b has the same erros, CD's burning works all right ... DvD's not!
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Correct
[04:46] <Subhuman> you just have to set it up in "nvidia-settings"
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> deepred: I dont have an answer....  Data DVD's seem to be fine...
[04:46] <deepred> Jack_Sparrow, cometimes i can write succesfully ... other times heh ... not! :|
[04:46] <denn> HI, guys would anyone here be able to tell me (new linux user) how to reset my home directory from the recovery console?
[04:47] <deepred> *sometimes
[04:47] <bieb> Cool Sub.. I wasnt sure.. a friend of mine was asking..
[04:47] <Kirsch> hey guys,what's a good text-based chat client?
[04:47] <Kirsch> besides BitchX
[04:47] <Subhuman> Kirsch, irssi
[04:47] <deepred> Kian|worK, irssi
[04:47] <clearzen> Is there any good graphical programs for converting .vob files to xvid?
[04:47] <jrib> denn: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[04:48] <deepred> omg, fucking tab
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> denn: Could you explain what lead up to the problem?
[04:48] <bieb> !language
[04:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:48] <sinisterr> melia: Permission denied (publickey,password)
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[04:49] <denn> I changed my home directory which was a mistake since i cannot log in now.. so i need to change it back from the recovery console but I do not know how.
[04:49] <deepred> Jack_Sparrow, i see, in K3b I/O Buffer bar going to 1% to 50% very high and visa versa, maybe a problem ?
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> denn: You could do it from Live cd, I am not much of a cli guy
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> deepred: yes... can you slow the drive down...
[04:50] <deepred> Jack_Sparrow, mean ... writing speed ?
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:50] <deepred> i'll try right now after another writing attempt :)
[04:51] <deepred> sorry 4 my english
[04:51] <denn> where would i go on the live cd to change my home directory?
[04:51] <robokop> arg installed windows vista and now it deleted grub from my MBR, anyway to fix it?
[04:51] <melia> sinisterr: delete the  file  know_host in /home/user/.ssh/
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[04:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:51] <sinisterr> k
[04:51] <frogzoo> !fixgrub
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <bieb> denn.. can you login as root?
[04:53] <denn> from gui no .. from bash yes
[04:53] <Kirsch> thx for irssi: another question i have is can I download the init script for apache (the httpd) script separatly somewhere? i compiled it
[04:53] <lastnode> does anyone know if AIGLX will support my radeon 200m express?
[04:53] <sinisterr> melia: same error
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> denn: Sorry I cant help but others here are much better at your type of problem..
[04:53] <Jaak> what is the best theme+icons and the whole flipflap for ubu/gnome
[04:53] <adminx> It should, lastnode.
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> gnome-look.org
[04:54] <melia> you delete the file in the server and client
[04:54] <bieb> denn.. then hit it from bash and fix your home dir
[04:54] <lastnode> adminx, the ati driver is "open source" right? im reading  - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX
[04:54] <Jaak> yeah but a lot is rather crappy, and they won't install ='(
[04:54] <salim> hi everybody, I've somewhere in my disk installed a nice game, it's just a binary though with a few files, but I want to add it to the "Games" Menu of my Xubuntu - how can I do that?
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Jaak: My favorite icon set   ...   http://kearone.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=9
[04:54] <adminx> Check here: http://corvillus.com/2006/08/03/how-to-set-up-aiglx-and-compiz-on-ubuntu-606-running-gnome/
[04:55] <denn> i would but i do not know the commands from bash to do that
[04:55] <adminx> And yes, I think both.
[04:55] <SEJeff> salim: alacarte
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Jaak: Just need to pick the right ones for your system... are you picking from the gtk2 sets or gnome sets
[04:55] <bieb> what exactly do you need to do denn?
[04:55] <lastnode> adminx, checking, thanks.
[04:55] <melia> sinisterr: the file is know_hosts
[04:55] <salim> !alacarte
[04:55] <Jaak> ok thanks!
[04:55] <ubotu> alacarte: easy menu editing. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 472 kB
[04:56] <higen> hey, i have moved my /var to /usr/local/var (which is on another partition), it works fine.. but under boot the /usr partition get booted after /, and /var/run is needed by some of the startup scripts.. anyway i can get around this?
[04:56] <adminx> Also Check :http://wiki.compiz.net/index.php/Aiglx/compiz_on_an_Intel_i915_video_card , Even if it say intel.
[04:56] <melia> sinisterr: if you have firewall open port 22
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[04:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[04:57] <salim> thanks
[04:57] <salim> bye
[04:57] <Jaak> anyone with great theme tip?
[04:57] <sinisterr> melia: i deleted it but i still get the same error as before there is no firewall it simply doesnt know my password it wont even let me log in locally
[04:57] <lastnode> adminx, the howto is rather confusing, it doesnt say if my 200m will work. it's kind of a low end card, on a laptop too, and 128 shared memory. :\
[04:58] <lufis> Is there a way to change the number of lines the mouse wheel scrolls? Is this capability even present in xorg? Could I file a bug?
[04:58] <klm-> My mplayer says: "Could not grab port 73" when trying to play an avi. Any workarounds?
[04:58] <denn> bieb: i need to set my home directory for my account from "/home/username/desktop" to "/home/username/" from recovery console however I do not know the commands to do this
[04:59] <living> hi, what tool do you use to burn isos in ubuntu?
[04:59] <adminx> Not sure where I read it, however it is my unstanding that AIGLX is supposed to work with low-end cards.
[04:59] <brian98> denn: sudo pico /etc/passwd
[04:59] <Vegeta^> I get the following error, when I try to scp: "ssh: connect to host <MYIP> port 22: Connection refused" <-- Does this mean I'm firewalled on this port? It can't be NAT, because that's open. How do I "unfirewall" the port (or any others ports in ubuntu)?
[04:59] <lastnode> living, gnomebaker
[04:59] <adminx> XGL should work with High-end ATI cards
[04:59] <iratsu> if lilo doesn't display a menu when i boot up, is there some key i can press to make it do so?
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> iratsu: ask in lilo
[05:00] <living> lastnode: does gnomebaker support bootable isos burning?
[05:00] <lastnode> adminx, this is a lowend
[05:00] <lufis> living: Gnomebaker isn't installed by default AFAIK... go to the terminal and type sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[05:00] <lufis> Living: yes
[05:00] <lastnode> living, er of course. the data you write to the disc is what makes it bootable or not
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ati300 is the real orphan...
[05:00] <TokenBad> is there a program for ubuntu that would let me take an animated gif and edit it?
[05:00] <lastnode> TokenBad, gimp?
[05:00] <denn> brian98: i will try that thank you.
[05:01] <lufis> TokenBad: GIMP can with a little know-how
 did you sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:01] <living> lufis, lastnode: thankyou a lot
[05:01] <adminx> I would give it a try, I know that I have a IBM thinkpad that has ATI that I am planning on testing tonight.
[05:01] <brian98> denn: Look for the line with your uname
[05:01] <lastnode> adminx, ok thanks, going for it
[05:01] <adminx> My Toshiba Laptop has Intel Chipset.
[05:01] <SillyZ> how to change from Gnome as the default startup desktop to XFCE ?
[05:01] <TokenBad> ummm...but how would you load a animated gif into gimp so that it has each frame?
[05:01] <Vegeta^> brian98: Never remember doing that after I installed ubuntu. But I'll check if it's installed from synaptic
[05:01] <melia> living: K3B
[05:02] <brian98> Vegeta^: I'd say it's your prob, I don't think it's installed by default for some reason
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> living: right click the iso and send to disk
[05:02] <lastnode> TokenBad, that's sorta outside the scope of this channel. but #gimp has a lot of people in it ;-)
[05:02] <Vegeta^> brian98: So I need to install that?
[05:03] <brian98> yes
[05:03] <TokenBad> thanks
[05:03] <sinisterr> melia: well thanks for trying
[05:03] <brian98> Vegeta^: start a terminal and type sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:03] <brian98> Vegeta^: it should install the ssh daemon
[05:03] <tecta> everytime i do apt-get install <pkg> it says
[05:03] <tecta> Reading package lists... Done
[05:03] <tecta> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:03] <tecta> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[05:04] <Vegeta^> ok i'll try that
[05:04] <deepred> brian98, to install sshd you have to:  sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:04] <sinisterr> !root
[05:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:04] <lufis> tecta: enable non-free repos
[05:04] <brian98> my mistake...
[05:04] <tecta> lufis: alright thanks
[05:04] <lastnode> adminx, the repo adds fine, but the last package in the howto is not found - gnome-compiz-manager
[05:04] <Healot> it's in the multiverse section; so enable your multiverse section in repos
[05:04] <brian98> Vegeta^: sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:04] <brian98> thanks deepred
[05:04] <klm-> Mplayer says when trying to open an avi: Xv: Could not grab port 73; Could not find free Xvideo port. Any workarounds?
[05:04] <deepred> brian98, ;) you're welcome!
[05:04] <living> Jack_Sparrow:  thanks a lot for that tip :)
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:05] <sonix1> anyone that's using edgy found usplash is stuffed now?
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> living: Quick and easy
[05:05] <melia> sinisterr: you neet restart the service ssh later delete the file know_hosts
[05:05] <tecta> lufis: i put non-free in sources.list and did apt-get update and still doesn't work
[05:06] <Healot> tecta: it's multiverse
[05:06] <Healot> non-free section is Debian's
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> tecta Please post your sources list to the pastebin.. and I suggest a backup of your list as well  gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[05:06] <tecta> Healot: oh ok thankjs
[05:07] <adminx> Which link are you using?
[05:07] <Healot> !repos
[05:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashplugin-nonfree
[05:07] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:07] <adminx> I think this one is current: http://wiki.compiz.net/index.php/Aiglx/compiz_on_an_Intel_i915_video_card
[05:07] <Vegeta^> brian98: Now I get "Host key verification failed." what does this mean?
[05:08] <brian98> Vegeta^: does it tell you the file that the host key is stored in?
[05:08] <tecta> Healot: hmm i added multiverse and did apt-get update and then apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:08] <Vegeta^> brian98: No, it only tells me what I quoted.
[05:09] <rmd> is there a way to put "open terminal here" in the nautilus right-click context?
[05:09] <SillyZ> anyone know of a command that can be issued to the system fan for the cpu to tell it to remain on at all times.... this is a laptop im dealing with here
[05:09] <adminx> Not sure if Corvillus has updated his info, per our last talk.
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !powernow
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powernow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <SillyZ> powernow... ok ill look into that
[05:10] <brian98> Vegeta^: sudo pico /root/.ssh/known_hosts and remove the offending entry
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> SillyZ: That isnt quite right..
[05:10] <SillyZ> Jack_Sparrow: ok what should i be looking for then?
[05:10] <jrib> rmd: install nautilus-open-terminal
[05:11] <mick_> i recently installed ubuntu (yesterday) and am fairly new at this, i ran automatix and that seemed to do well, but now when i try to play music out of amarok, the songs take 1 second to complete and no sund comes out... any ideas?
[05:11] <mick_> sound*
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> SillyZ: Looking...
[05:11] <adminx> last node you can email me later at ceo at administratorx dot net and I will let you know how it goes with my install.
[05:11] <SillyZ> Jack_Sparrow: k, thanks
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mick_: ask in Automatix
[05:12] <rmd> jrib: is that in universe?
[05:12] <brian98> Vegeta^: or sudo pico ~/.ssh/known_hosts to remove it from your own hosts file
[05:12] <mick_> Jack_Sparrow, amarok didn't come with automatix, sorry... i wasn't clear
[05:13] <tecta> Jack_Sparrow: > tecta: it's multiverse
[05:13] <ladydoor> mick_: are you running another sound program at the same time?
[05:13] <tecta> 11:05 < Healot> non-free section is Debian's
[05:13] <tecta> Jack_Sparrow: sorry paste sucks
[05:13] <corona1> does anyone know why i'm getting a " C compiler (gcc -O2 -g -Wall ) works... no" error while trying to compile lirc?
[05:13] <tecta> Jack_Sparrow: http://rafb.net/paste/results/c0L1oj24.html
[05:13] <Vegeta^> brian98: "/root/.ssh/known_hosts" is empty, the other one contains 2 lines.... What do I remove? The 2 lines?
[05:13] <gerardomt> Hola, es posible desinstalar el Firefox que viene poe defecto en Ubuntu?
[05:13] <ladydoor> !powernowd
[05:13] <mick_> ladydoor, no, just amarok
[05:13] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:13] <brian98> Vegeta^: yes
[05:13] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: is that what you were looking for?
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> SillyZ: You can boot with acpi=off... but I was trying to remember the name of the program added to laptops for power savings..
[05:14] <brian98> Vegeta^: Then try again to connect
[05:14] <ladydoor> mick_: oh. well, nm. sorry
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ladydoor: Thats my girl...
[05:14] <SillyZ> Jack_Sparrow: just add acpi = off to grub then?
[05:14] <gerardomt> Esque instal el Swiftfox y me va mejor
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ladydoor: I knew it was close
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[05:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:14] <deep> Is 'dirmngr' something important for the ubuntusystem?
[05:14] <deep> Or can i turn it off?
[05:15] <rmd> jrib: most excellent.  thank you.
[05:15] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: glad to help.
[05:15] <surgy> hello
[05:15] <tecta> Jack_Sparrow: i uncommented the last two, just realised that and took out multiverse and univers in the first two, but still won't install
[05:15] <SillyZ> Jack_Sparrow: where in grub should I add acpi=off, menu.lst ?
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ladydoor: WIll that let the fan run full speed without throttling it down?
[05:16] <rmd> actually.  i've installed the package but i'm not seeing it in the right-click context....
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> tecta Please post your sources list to the pastebin.. and I suggest a backup of your list as well  gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[05:16] <surgy> i need a recomendation on a software bundle that will convert an avi into vcd format and then burn it onto a disc?
[05:16] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: i don't know, honestly. i just remembered seeing it at some point
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> SillyZ: One of those two options should work
[05:17] <SillyZ> Jack_Sparrow: the kernel section or the boot section ?
[05:17] <brian98> surgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936 is an excellent instruction set
[05:17] <Vegeta^> brian98: I still have the same error "Host key verification failed."
[05:17] <m4rk> will ubuntu work with zune?
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> SillyZ: Hit E on boot and try it in the grub list
[05:17] <brian98> I dunno, deepred, any ideas?
[05:18] <SillyZ> k
[05:18] <sharky> I haven't seen an update notification update for any of my installed packages in about 2 months now.  is this a problem??
[05:18] <SillyZ> brb then
[05:18] <SillyZ> and thanks Jack_Sparrow
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> SillyZ: rather than trying to make it perm for the test
[05:18] <brian98> are you connecting to it from your local box?
[05:18] <SillyZ> aye
[05:18] <surgy> brian98 thank you much
[05:18] <brian98> no worries!
[05:18] <Healot> m4rk: if zune have a FAT32/16 disk; sure why not?
[05:19] <brian98> Vegeta^: are you connecting username@127.0.0.1 ?
[05:19] <brian98> or are you connecting from a different maching?
[05:19] <brian98> machine even
[05:20] <Vegeta^> brian98: I'm trying to copy a file from a remote server.
[05:20] <Vegeta^> brian98: To my own machine.
[05:21] <corona1> does anyone know why i'm getting a " C compiler (gcc -O2 -g -Wall ) works... no" error while trying to compile lirc?
[05:21] <BubbleGirl> Hello
[05:21] <lastnode> hello BubbleGirl
[05:21] <tecta> Jack_Sparrow: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FhDTF772.html
[05:21] <brian98> Vegeta^: Then the offending key is in the machine your trying to connect from!
[05:21] <BubbleGirl> Hi lastnode, how are you?
[05:22] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, er im fine. :-) what can we do for you today?
[05:22] <lastnode> adminx, hi, im running a radeon 200m express, and i installed aiglx following the ubuntu tutorial. gdm loads up gnome fine, but when i run compiz-manager from the cli, gdm restarts. any idea how i can troubleshoot this?
[05:22] <BubbleGirl> I am really new to this whole ubuntu thing, I was wondering if someone woudl mind giving me some time so I coudl have a talk to them?
[05:22] <Vegeta^> brian98: You mean my machine??? So what is exactly this offending key? And how do I terminate it?
[05:22] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, come on in to #ubuntu-offtopic, that's where all the chatter is :-)
[05:22] <BubbleGirl> Well, I just installed Ubuntu LAMP (think that is right(
[05:22] <brian98> are you on windows or what os?
[05:23] <paniq> hey there
[05:23] <sharky> Vegeta^, the error should tell you which line in your .ssh-keys file the offending key is at, just open that file and delete that line and try again
[05:23] <Howitzer> Does anyone know what fluxbox theme fluxbuntu uses?, their channel isn't responding...
[05:23] <paniq> am i wrong or has autohinting been enabled by default with one of the last upgrades in the past 2 months?
[05:23] <ladydoor> Howitzer: there's actually a fluxbuntu now?
[05:23] <BubbleGirl> Is there a way I can get a GUI with the server version?
[05:23] <paniq> i want to turn autohinting off but nothing helps
[05:23] <Howitzer> ladydoor, yeah
[05:23] <derrickh> How do you find the WM_CLASS of apps running?
[05:23] <paniq> i want bci rendering
[05:23] <Howitzer> http://fluxbuntu.org/
[05:23] <paniq> it sucks ass
[05:24] <paniq> i'm sorry
[05:24] <paniq> it sucks ****
[05:24] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, sure. you can just apt-get whatever gui you want
[05:24] <PupUser905617> hi I need a disrto for a p3 64mb ram and a small hdd any suggestions?
[05:24] <Howitzer> but for now, it's not really advanced as it still has a lot of bloat for it's goal
[05:25] <lastnode> PupUser905617, fluxbuntu or xubuntu
[05:25] <Howitzer> PupUser905617, DamnSmallLinux or Puppy Linux
[05:25] <Vegeta^> brian98: Because I'm on my own computer now, and trying to connect to a remote server. But I use "scp <the username of mine on that server>@<hostname>:/.../<filename> <the same username as the one used to login>@<My ip (not 127.0.0.1)>:/home/.../" <-- what is the error in that?
[05:25] <Howitzer> 64mb is WAY too small for any *buntu flavour
[05:25] <kirkunit> I've recently bought an AMD Athlon 64 machine and I'm looking to buy a half decent graphics card for it. Can anyone recommend a graphics card that works nicely with Ubuntu and AMD64?
[05:25] <BubbleGirl> I know I sound like an idiot Lastnode, but I have always been a windows gal. How do I do it Lastnode, is it on the image I downloaded?
[05:25] <Howitzer> you need at least 128+ to make it somewhat useable
[05:25] <Vegeta^> sharky: The error doesn't say anything, besides the line I quoted.
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> kirkunit: Nvidia
[05:25] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, which gui do you want to use?
[05:26] <brian98> Vegeta^: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch17_:_Secure_Remote_Logins_and_File_Copying
[05:26] <BubbleGirl> I dont know, I liked the one that comes witht he desktop version
[05:26] <PupUser905617> k thanks I'll try damn small
[05:26] <deep> Can someone tell me what "festival" and "dirmngr" is, and tell me if its nessesary to have?
[05:27] <brian98> Vegeta^: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch17_:_Secure_Remote_Logins_and_File_Copying#SSH_Failures_Due_To_Linux_Reinstallations is the part your looking for
[05:27] <Howitzer> PupUser905617, are you new to linux?, because starting out with DSL isn't as easy as it would be with Ubuntu/Fedora/...
[05:27] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' then. it's a lot of files though. on the other hand, if you have a desktop ubuntu cd, you can insert that and install the packages from it, instead of the net.
[05:28] <fbn> I've installed the Edgy package updates today an now I get "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and boot process stops here leaving me in the busybox shell ... what can I do? help please!
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fbn: Ask in edgy...
[05:28] <lastnode> fbn, #ubuntu+1 please.
[05:28] <BubbleGirl> That easy lastnode?
[05:28] <kirkunit> fbn: try #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> BubbleGirl: Yep, that easy
[05:29] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, yup. :-) well at least generally, we can work on it if you get stuck.
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl..  People, play nice...
[05:29] <PupUser905617> no actually I have agreat machine with ubuntu..I got a piece of junk for someone that they can afford and I hate  windowoes so im of course looking at another one
[05:29] <fbn> ah sorry didn't know about that channel, thanks
[05:29] <corporate> can anybody please help me with reconfiguring xserver-xorg for my dell laptop
[05:29] <BubbleGirl> MWAH!!!! Thank you thank you thank you. Sorry for sounding like such a newbie :)
[05:29] <lastnode> corona1, what do you need done.
[05:29] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, all of us were/are newbies. not a problem.
[05:30] <Vegeta^> brian98: I already did that. You told me that before, I deleted the 2 (only) lines in ~/.ssh/known_hosts and reconnected, but it didn't help.
[05:30] <corona1> lastnode, i need to figure out why lirc won't compile
[05:30] <BubbleGirl> Guy guys are gret, the people in Rebhat rooms are so rude
[05:30] <corona1> i keep getting:  C compiler (gcc -O2 -g -Wall ) works... no
[05:30] <brian98> from the machine your connecting from
[05:30] <lastnode> sorry, bad nick completion, i meant corporate
[05:30] <corona1> np
[05:30] <brian98> Vegeta^: from the machine your connecting from sorry...
[05:30] <wickers> Ugg apt is being a bitch.
[05:31] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, i think every channel has its share of rude people. we just hide them in the back in here ;-)
[05:31] <lastnode> wickers, language mate
[05:31] <wickers> How do you unlock the apt file?
[05:31] <wickers> or the lock file that is.
[05:31] <corporate> can anybody please help me with reconfiguring xserver-xorg for my dell laptop
[05:31] <wickers> lastnode: check.
[05:31] <lastnode> wickers, lock what?
[05:31] <brian98> corportate: What graphics card?
[05:31] <wickers> lastnode: you know how only one apt program can use apt at the same time?
[05:32] <surgy> can someone look at the following error and help me please? http://rafb.net/paste/results/psSVo489.html
[05:32] <wickers> lastnode: well my apt is locked as if something is using it.
[05:32] <lastnode> wickers, yes. that "locking" is done by the app itself.
[05:32] <Vegeta^> brian98: Yes, from my machine, not on the servers.
[05:32] <wickers> lastnode: there's no app running.
[05:32] <Duesentrieb> hi all - can someone assist me to get sound working on my laptop (asus, intel ICH7 sound chip, alsa)
[05:32] <lastnode> wickers, synaptic? update? nothing?
[05:32] <Duesentrieb> i see no errors, but hear no sound...
[05:32] <wickers> lastnode: the file is just 'open'.
[05:32] <BubbleGirl> Just installing now lastnode, shall tell you how it went hon
[05:32] <corporate> brian98: its ATI mobillity 7500
[05:32] <wickers> lastnode: nothing, clean reboot, nada.
[05:32] <brian98> Vegeta^: Sorry mate.. I really don't now why you should get that error if you have cleaned out your knowhosts
[05:33] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, sure, there are tons of other window managers you might like to explore when you have the time.
[05:33] <surgy> brian98: can you look at this for me and tell me what you think? http://rafb.net/paste/results/psSVo489.html
[05:33] <lastnode> wickers, that's really wierd. do a ps?
[05:33] <Vegeta^> brian98: ok np, thanks anyway for the help.
[05:33] <wickers> I did... nada.
[05:33] <lastnode> surgy, a python lib is missing? what are you trying to install?
[05:33] <botxj> is XGL it's own X server or does it use X11 or X.org ?
[05:33] <wickers> I think automatix screwed it up.
[05:34] <lastnode> wickers, automatix!
[05:34] <lastnode> :o
[05:34] <lastnode> or you mean easyubuntu?
[05:34] <wickers> no, I mean what I said.
[05:34] <lastnode> !automatix
[05:34] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:34] <wickers> lol
[05:34] <mllr> can you use xgl w/ ati radeon 9000 pro? just wondered if my old system could handle it. checking forums not getting a definitive yes/no.
[05:34] <lastnode> :-)
[05:34] <surgy> lastnode: i following a guide for installing tovidgui and running it to make avi into svcd and then copy it onto a cd
[05:34] <rmd> !easyubuntu
[05:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:34] <fatbrain> Hello, I recently installed the kernel-updates (form auto-update thingie) and I recompiled my nvidia drivers... Now I can only start GDM from SU, Anyone know how I can resolve that?
[05:34] <botxj> is XGL it's own X server or does it use X11 or X.org ?
[05:34] <brian98> surgy: sudo apt-get install wxpython2.6-0
[05:35] <sharky> has there been any recent update to dapper?  or to standard packages?  I havent seen a notification for updating my packages in 2 months now
[05:35] <lastnode> botxj, right now it runs on a 'layer' on top of X, but will soon have its own server, iirc
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[05:35] <brian98> surgy: if it can't find that file you might need to enable extra rep....
[05:35] <lastnode> sharky, er there have been. apt-get upgrade
[05:35] <brian98> surgy: Good help here - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[05:36] <surgy> brian98: cant find it
[05:36] <wickers> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps... but I just don't have the time these to get everything up and going by hand.
[05:36] <adminx> Here is a really good artical on XGL and AIGLX: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/accelerated_x
[05:36] <whitewindow> hi @all
[05:36] <brian98> surgy: go to the page I just posted , it will help you enable the repos. you need to get it..
[05:36] <sharky> lastnode, yeah i've done that but it says there's nothing to be upgraded
[05:36] <surgy> brian98: ok thank you
[05:36] <brian98> nw
[05:36] <whitewindow> what  infos are needed ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-cups-manager/+bug/40660
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> wickers: And WE dont have the time to fix your problems when you do
[05:37] <sharky> lastnode, and i've not had to upgrade in a long time which concerns me
[05:37] <lastnode> adminx, any idea why it loads gnome w/o a problem and just dies when i run compiz-manager though?
[05:37] <lastnode> sharky, apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:37] <surgy> daper drake is the latest release right?
[05:37] <whitewindow> i use ubuntu edgy up to date
[05:37] <corporate> can anybody please help me with reconfiguring xserver-xorg for my dell laptop
[05:37] <Duesentrieb> hrm. can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot ALSA sound? I'm a bit stuck :/
[05:37] <paniq> hum
[05:38] <stefanneke> some one know the way changing how keyboard mappings are mapped in a RDP session for a non us keyb?
[05:38] <brian98> corporate: !ati
[05:38] <adminx> Which directions did you use? (lastnode)
[05:38] <paniq> sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig does not give me any setup screens - is this okay?
[05:38] <corporate> brain98: yeah ati card
[05:38] <brian98> !ati
[05:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:38] <lastnode> adminx, http://wiki.compiz.net/index.php/Aiglx/compiz_on_an_Intel_i915_video_card#Using_it.21
[05:38] <sharky> lastnode, just tried dist-upgrade and still nothing to upgrade...
[05:38] <lastnode> adminx, except i didnt apt-get dist-upgrade because it was 180mb (this is a fresh install of dapper). so im doing that now. could that be the prob?
[05:38] <brian98> corporate: they may just need to be reinstalled
[05:39] <corporate> brain98: till now my card has been working good
[05:39] <lastnode> sharky, that's wierd. are all your sources uncommented in sources.list?
[05:39] <corporate> reinstall what?
[05:39] <corporate> brian98: the OS itelf
[05:39] <brian98> no!
[05:39] <brian98> is X running?
[05:39] <lastnode> adminx, wondering if to follow gandalf - http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[05:40] <corporate> brian98: nope, as soon as as X starts and I do anything (like typing passwd) it hangs
[05:40] <adminx> Maybe, However when I 1st tried it, it failed for me also however that is because it did not load all the pkgs, on second try every thing worked.
[05:40] <lastnode> adminx, hmm ill brb
[05:41] <adminx> gandalf was not current last time I tried, however it may be now.
[05:41] <surgy> brian98: i followed the instructions and copy pasted that sources.list into my sources.list and then apt-get install wxpython2.6-0 and it didnt find it
[05:41] <K2skaterii> Does anyone here wanna help a n00b?
[05:41] <brian98> surgy: sudo apt-get update
[05:41] <brian98> then try
[05:42] <sharky> lastnode, the only source which is commented is the one for backports
[05:42] <adminx> Last I checked the Compiz link was most current.
[05:42] <lastnode> adminx, when i run compiz-manager from the cli, it loads up a white screen, and then hangs. there is some small cli output before it. do i need to set a startup command
[05:42] <adminx> However that was two weeks ago.
[05:42] <lastnode> sharky, that's really wierd. :\
[05:42] <lastnode> sharky, sorry dunno what else to do
[05:43] <brian98> corporate: make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if that helps
[05:43] <sharky> hmm.. well maybe i'll take this opportunity to go to 32-bit ubuntu
[05:43] <corporate> brain98: I have don reconfiguring, problem stays exactly at where it was
[05:44] <adminx> That sounds alot like what happened to me on my 1st install, but it worked for me after a uninstall / reinstall.
[05:44] <brian98> corporate: you could try sudo aticonfig --intital
[05:44] <chakersito> hi
[05:44] <lastnode> adminx, uninstall?
[05:44] <chakersito> i need some help
[05:44] <brian98> corporate: I changed to nvidia card, found ATI to be a right pain in the proverbials
[05:44] <adminx> removed all pkgs and tried again
[05:45] <Gamekiller> good morning all on pst time
[05:45] <corporate> brain98: you mean to change the card itslef or the driver?
[05:45] <adminx> lastnode email me at ceo at administratorx dot net, later tonight. Will tell you how it goes on my thinkpad with ati card.
[05:46] <chakersito> someone can help me? i need to configure the menu.lst of the grub
[05:46] <brian98> corporate: I changed cards - I'm not saying thats your solution now but I find nvidia more stable, don't know if anyone else has the same opinion, just mine..
[05:47] <Gamekiller> has any one gotten the nvidia drivers to install with kernel package 686 yet
[05:47] <corporate> brain98:I agree with you
[05:47] <corporate> brain98: but right now I will have to wrok with whatever I have
[05:48] <surgy> brian98: duh lol
[05:48] <lastnode> adminx, works! thanks :-) cant figure out how to use it now, though
[05:48] <Lasse> hey
[05:48] <corporate> brain98: It did not fing aticonfig
[05:48] <graveson> what combination of hardware ad software can i use to copy my vcr tapes to dvd /mpeg format
[05:48] <adminx> lol, That's great.
[05:48] <brian98> corporate: I would recommend reinstalling the ati driver
[05:48] <chakersito> i got a prblem whith the grub... when i want to boot W$ show an error of NTLrD
[05:48] <brian98> !ati
[05:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:48] <brian98> surgy: Worked?
[05:48] <lastnode> adminx, do i need to load something? because im using the shortcut keys and i cant see no cube :P
[05:48] <Lasse> im new to all this... can anyone tell if its possible to make a dualboot on my xp machine, without erasing all my files??
[05:49] <bryanl> when i create a vg, where is that vg stored in ubuntu?
[05:49] <adminx> CDWD Themer
[05:49] <xvxvx> help? libglib2.0-dev: libglib2.0-dev depends on libglib2.0-0 (=2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 will be installed... how do i install the thing?
[05:49] <surgy> brian98: nope
[05:49] <bryanl> i created a vg called vg0 and i thought it would be at /dev/vg0
[05:49] <K2skaterii> Hey guys, I just installed ubuntu for the first time... So far it is a completly useless OS to me as I it hard locks within 10 minutes of booting...  Both with the Live CD and after install.  Any Ideas?
[05:49] <surgy> brian98: even after i updated
[05:49] <adminx> There is no longer a cube
[05:49] <Otacon22> hi all
[05:49] <Otacon22> I have a problem
[05:49] <Otacon22> i have a 4 gb usb disk
[05:49] <surgy> brian98: whould help if i didnt type pythong.......... let me try again lol
[05:50] <Otacon22> but i have problem to read it
[05:50] <brian98> surgy: lol
[05:50] <Otacon22> i think there is'nt a partition on it
[05:50] <corporate> brain98: I just did sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:50] <brian98> ok
[05:50] <Otacon22> how can i create one?
[05:50] <brian98> it's brian btw
[05:50] <adminx> CDWG Themer and Compiz Settings Manager should me all you need.
[05:50] <surgy> E: package wxpython2.6-0 has no installation candidate
[05:50] <brian98> surgy: one sec
[05:50] <bryanl> nevermind
[05:50] <Healot> !find wxpython
[05:51] <ubotu> Package/file wxpython does not exist in dapper
[05:51] <adminx> Check under System Menu /Perf
[05:51] <bryanl> whats the best filesystem for large files?
[05:51] <bryanl> jfs?
[05:51] <lastnode> adminx, i spoke to soon. as soon as i selected compiz over metacity it died
[05:51] <Healot> any linux-native fs; i guess
[05:51] <surgy> healot: then whats its equivilant?
[05:51] <brian98> surgy: sudo tovid -refresh-deps
[05:52] <Healot> surgy: wrong package name; it is available though
[05:52] <botxj> so is it possible to have flash in firefox on my 64bit Ubuntu IF i install 32bit firefox?
[05:52] <surgy> brian98: what am i looking for in the refresh-deps?
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> is there any ubuntu users in here that can tell me how different or simple it would be for a first time linux user to try Ubuntu6.06 or OpenSuse10.1
[05:52] <botxj> by using the application known as "linux32" ?
[05:52] <ph8> try it any see botxj  :)
[05:52] <brian98> surgy: Try sudo apt-get install python-wxversion python-wxtools python-wxgtk2.6
[05:52] <botxj> i sure will ph8
[05:53] <ph8> I'm looking for a howto or pointers on compiling my own version of the kernel.org kernel to use on an install CD (so that I can get JMicron Support!) - can anyone help?
[05:53] <lastnode> BubbleGirl, hows that install coming along?
[05:53] <lastnode> !kernel
[05:53] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:53] <ph8> lastnode: do i just overwrite the one on the install cd after that do you know?
[05:53] <graveson> what combination of hardware ad software can i use to copy my vcr tapes to dvd /mpeg format
[05:53] <xvxvx> Lasse, probably so, but that would come down to partitioning (backing up data is always a good thing)
[05:53] <lastnode> ph8, it'sa  little more complicated than that. read the howto
[05:54] <Healot> botxj: it's a chroot wrapper for the 64-bit ubuntu to run 32-bit apps
[05:54] <surgy> brian98: its dling a 12 mb package
[05:54] <brian98> ok
[05:54] <Abst> Can anyone think of a reason why people cannot access my HTTP or SSH servers if my ports are forwarded correctly? (Belkin wireless router (wired))
[05:54] <Gamekiller> Are there any Ubuntu users here that program AVR MCU
[05:55] <surgy> brian98: that fixed it
[05:55] <TheTurtle> graveson: I use a hauppauge win pvr-150 card and cat...the pvr150 outputs mpeg
[05:55] <surgy> brian98: thanx
[05:55] <brian98> surgy: Nice one! Happy dvd co.... backing up....
[05:55] <vrkhans> hi i need some help in installing the ubuntu
[05:55] <graveson> TheTurtle: do i need any particular software
[05:55] <sycu> hi, do you know how to mount nokia 6230 phone? i use gammu+wammu but i cant upload and download files
[05:56] <vrkhans> i just downloaded kbuntu through torrent , and burned it on a cd using cdburnerxp pro
[05:56] <vrkhans> but my cd is not booting
[05:56] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: do you have your boot order right
[05:56] <vrkhans> i dont know did i miss any step in burning
[05:56] <Healot> did you burn the image as file or as CD image?
[05:56] <TheTurtle> graveson: i set my card to ch 3 (us), play the vcr tape and type "cat /dev/video0 > tape_01.mpg"
[05:56] <vrkhans> ya
[05:57] <rmd> is there anywhere i can go to read up on the patent/copyright issues involved in keeping ubuntu from coming standard with mp3 support?
[05:57] <vrkhans> i check that
[05:57] <vrkhans> i never burn any cd before
[05:57] <lastnode> !restricted
[05:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:57] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: like healot said check to see if it one file on the CD
[05:57] <vrkhans> so my be i am missing any thing over there
[05:57] <lastnode> rmd, see what ubotu just outputted
[05:57] <Abst> Can anyone help me forward my ports for apache and ssh
[05:57] <vrkhans> the file is there
[05:57] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: what machine are you on now
[05:58] <Gamekiller> what file do you see on the CD
[05:58] <lastnode> vrkhans, it's not one file. it's an iso, you need to burn that image to the cd
[05:58] <Healot> http://www.mp3licensing.com/ >> legal stuff here
[05:58] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: yah you should see a set of folder and a files
[05:58] <vrkhans> how i can do that
[05:58] <Gamekiller> on the CD
[05:58] <Tommck> anyone know if there's an Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) .deb file for lame anywhere?
[05:58] <Tommck> (been googling... haven't found it)
[05:58] <brian98> abst: http://www.portforward.com/
[05:58] <Healot> !find lame
[05:58] <vrkhans> just one file iso
[05:58] <vrkhans> on cd
[05:58] <ubotu> Found: flamethrower, glame, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, systemimager-server-flamethrowerd, toolame (and 5 others)
[05:59] <vrkhans> how i can open that
[05:59] <surgy> brian98: tovidgui is pretty nice
[05:59] <Gamekiller> ok you need to have an ISO burner
[05:59] <Tommck> Healot - no dice then, right?
[05:59] <brian98> surgy: Saves you having to type the command lines, have you seen the length of them :)
[05:59] <vrkhans> that is what recomended on the ubunto site cdburnerxp
[05:59] <Healot> Tommck: find it via; a) apt-cache search lame
[05:59] <vrkhans> i had that
[05:59] <psr> Hi, I need some help using the Kernel Git tree
[06:00] <Tommck> Healot - already looked
[06:00] <Healot> b) at packages.ubuntu.com
[06:00] <rmd> so it is legal to install mp3 support, but illegal to bundle it with ubuntu standard?
[06:00] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: ok well there is a n optoin to burn iso images then
[06:00] <Healot> Tommck: close the package manager!
[06:00] <lastnode> Tommck, see glame - versatile audio processor
[06:00] <Gamekiller> i had not use that app before
[06:00] <vrkhans> hmm let me check
[06:00] <Tommck> Healot - package manager?  I used apt-cache
[06:00] <Healot> rmd: unclear status
[06:00] <psr> I have a prism softmac based wifi card, which doesn't work with the version of the islsm driver in the dapper kernel.  I believe I need to apply a later version of the patch.
[06:00] <Tommck> lastnode - I need it for MythTV support
[06:00] <octan> why does my /usr/bin/~X11 never ends?
[06:00] <kishore> G0SUB, hi
[06:00] <lastnode> Tommck, see what glame installs
[06:00] <octan> its a dirl that never ends why?
[06:01] <Gamekiller> Tommck: tell me how mythtv come on on ubuntu
[06:01] <h4ch3r> some can help me?
[06:01] <ladydoor> !someone
[06:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:01] <Tommck> Gamekiller - apparently very well based on a lot of the help I see.
[06:01] <Gamekiller> Tommck: i have my myth running on gentoo right now
[06:01] <Tommck> Gamekiller - I had it running on Suse 9.1 for 2 years... now upgrading
[06:01] <vrkhans> i dont know how to change that iso image into a regular files
[06:01] <Gamekiller> Tommck: i have my box up for over 2 years now
[06:02] <tanath> the thumb buttons on my mouse don't work in gnome, but do in other WMs. how do i fix this?
[06:02] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: you do not change it you burn it
[06:02] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: the app will extract the files for you
[06:02] <Tommck> lastnode - are you implying that glame installs lame?  I don't see that on their site
[06:02] <h4ch3r> ladydoor, look my problem         http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23651
[06:02] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: what was the name of the app again i look at it
[06:02] <lastnode> Tommck, sorry, i thought glame might be a gui wrapper for lame, and might install it. my bad
[06:02] <lastnode> Tommck, why not just get the source and compile then?
[06:03] <lastnode> and make yer own deb? ;-)
[06:03] <Gamekiller> i was just about to say that
[06:03] <ladydoor> h4ch3r: you should paste to the whole channel, not just to me, unless i offer to help you in particular. that way somebody knowledgeble will jump on if they're here
[06:03] <brian98> healot: makes you think how much money they are making from the mp3 format now looking at that sire
[06:03] <vrkhans> cdburnerxp pro
[06:03] <Tommck> lastnode - I will if I have to... was hoping there'd be a .deb already...
[06:03] <brian98> site even
[06:03] <octan> can i delete a never ending dir ?
[06:03] <Tommck> there is for Breezy
[06:03] <ladydoor> octan: you don't want to delete anything in /usr.
[06:03] <h4ch3r> ladydoor, no man..for all
[06:03] <vrkhans> it is burning the image but not extracting it
[06:03] <Healot> brian98: idc :)
[06:03] <ladydoor> h4ch3r: what does that mean?
[06:03] <octan> ladydoor why not?
[06:03] <vrkhans> i wasted almost 3 cds
[06:03] <surgy> brian98: yeah i fall asleep half way through them most of the time
[06:04] <Tommck> oh... lame is supposed to be in multiverse... but I have that source already...
[06:04] <h4ch3r>  what does that mean?
[06:04] <Gamekiller> ok let me take a look vrkhans
[06:04] <Healot> Tommck: btw thou package name is lame
[06:04] <Healot> !find lame
[06:04] <ubotu> Found: flamethrower, glame, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, systemimager-server-flamethrowerd, toolame (and 5 others)
[06:04] <ladydoor> octan: because it's important stuff your system needs...
[06:04] <Healot> !info lame
[06:04] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[06:04] <Tommck> Healot - yeah... but apt-cache doesn't find it and I thought I had multiverse in my sources.lst
[06:04] <Healot> bot estupido
[06:05] <Tommck> !info multiverse
[06:05] <ubotu> Package multiverse does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <h4ch3r> ubotu, dead
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <ladydoor> h4ch3r: i don't understand what you said to me. and you really should post your question to the channel. and, looking at your paste, specifically to the portuguese channel--they'll be able to offer you support in your native language.
[06:05] <dennisharrison_A> anyone here installed pango with free type 2 support recently?
[06:05] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: did you look for an optoin called Burn ISO image
[06:05] <h4ch3r> ladydoor,  :(
[06:05] <dennisharrison_A> I don't use ubuntu much and the way debian handles packages still kind of confuses me when it comes to this
[06:05] <Abst> How do I setup a static IP address for my PC?
[06:06] <dennisharrison_A> Abst,  you have to have access to a static ip address
[06:06] <ladydoor> h4ch3r: what's wrong? also, please don't harass the bot.
[06:06] <Tommck> Healot - what is supposed to be in my sources.lst for multiverse?
[06:06] <dennisharrison_A> do you mean public or private?
[06:06] <Bargeld> hi
[06:06] <h4ch3r> bye
[06:06] <ladydoor> h4ch3r: i can't read the error it gave you, so i can't really help, because i don't know portuguese. it's a problem.
[06:06] <dennisharrison_A> !find pangoft2
[06:07] <ubotu> Package/file pangoft2 does not exist in dapper
[06:07] <vrkhans> ya on the first screen it says , and i choose that
[06:07] <surgy> anyone know how i whould get my hands on a copy of unix?
[06:07] <dk06> how do you arrange icons in the panel
[06:07] <dk06> u know, where sytesm, application, and all that are
[06:07] <Gamekiller> hmm odd
[06:07] <vrkhans> basically what it is doing it is just coping that iso image to the cd
[06:07] <dk06> how do u arrange the quick launch icons
[06:07] <dk06> automatcially
[06:07] <Gamekiller> yah
[06:08] <Abst> Private static IP
[06:08] <surgy> hey brian98: is this going to fit on a cd?
[06:08] <ladydoor> surgy: you might check out http://www.unix.org/, the first result on google for unix
[06:08] <ladydoor> surgy: may i ask why?
[06:09] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: check you other chat windows
[06:09] <bahr> Hi I want to install ubuntu 6.06 on my Dell Dimension 9150, after I start the livecd, and it loads gnome, and I am supposed to get a desktop, my screen goes nuts, I can't see anything. Anybody know what the problem is? My graphic card is a Geforce 6800
[06:09] <vrkhans> what is Joliet and iso level 1 and iso level 2
[06:09] <brian98> surgy: You can tell it to fit to a vcd in your options at the beginning
[06:09] <surgy> ladydoor: just to see...... i have never seen unix in real life
[06:09] <SillyZ> well so far no luck with the gateway solo 5300 cpu fan .....
[06:09] <slight> i have 2 ubuntu installs which both seem to have suddenly stopped shutting down cleanly
[06:09] <surgy> brian98: the avi to begin with is 175 mb
[06:09] <brian98> should be fine
[06:09] <slight> i have a tool in windows that will mount ext2 drives but it's now refusing
[06:09] <surgy> brian98: and its allready encoding
[06:09] <tanath> the thumb buttons on my mouse don't work in gnome, but do in other WMs. how do i fix this?
[06:10] <slight> because it claims the ext3 journal isn't fully flushed
[06:10] <ladydoor> surgy: aha. well, it actually turns out that unix was, in fact, a hoax. See http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/unix-hoax.html
[06:10] <Gamekiller> vrkhans: read this http://cdburnerxp.se/help/burniso
[06:10] <SillyZ> anyone know how to get the speaker icon on the taskbar back over to where the clock is at ?, its currently to the left of the spacer on that bar, and moving it dosent do the trick
[06:10] <Tommck> Healot - thanks for the help
[06:11] <Tommck> Healot - I assumed multiverse was one of the "deb" lines I uncommented in sources.lst, but it's not in there by default... so I added it
[06:11] <surgy> well that sucks
[06:11] <bahr> Hm...guess I need to try another distribution then .. :/
[06:11] <ladydoor> surgy: what sucks?
[06:11] <surgy> brian98: i got an error while encoding........
[06:11] <Healot> that's the way; Tommck
[06:12] <Healot> Tommck: you can put all the sections in one repos line though
[06:12] <Tommck> Healot... ok... cool
[06:12] <surgy> ladydoor: thank you for the link on that article i will surely read it
[06:12] <Healot> deb <url> dapper main universe multiverse restricted
[06:12] <ladydoor> surgy: np. it's actually a joke, btw.
[06:13] <ladydoor> surgy: (the article i mean)
[06:13] <Tommck> Healot - but... multiverse was in there before... same location...
[06:13] <Tommck> Healot - I added a separate line... and it worked fine
[06:13] <dk06> what is the best snes emulator for nix
[06:13] <brian98> surgy: can you paste it to the pastebin and send me the url
[06:13] <brian98> !pastebin
[06:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:13] <Healot> Tommck: I prefer one liner; smaller file size
[06:13] <Tommck> Healot - but it didn't work with the one-liner
[06:14] <dennisharrison_A> I am trying to configure pangoft2 on my ubuntu system so I can install gimp 2.3.11
[06:14] <vrkhans> ok how i can make that disk bootable
[06:14] <cocos> hi, normally im used to windows but i just installed ubuntu is there a way to check if there are wireless connections?
[06:14] <dennisharrison_A> anyone able to shed some light?
[06:14] <Tommck> Healot - I had the "backports" line uncommented... so "multiverse" was on there...   it could not find lame...
[06:14] <Tommck> Healot - then I added a separate line for the same server with just "multiverse"... and it could find it
[06:14] <surgy> brian98: no need, it is an error with the menu, and from playing around with it i realize that i have to have a menu, btw the error was that it couldnt find the picture that i intended on using as a menu
[06:14] <dennisharrison_A> I have googled for like an hour
[06:14] <|killy> hi
[06:14] <dennisharrison_A> and im still not sure of what to do
[06:14] <tanath> anyone know how to get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs
[06:14] <surgy> brian98: do you have a menu picture or a link to one that i can use?
[06:14] <Healot> oh; it's on the dapper repos; not dapper-backport
[06:15] <lhh> how to copy everything inside a folder, a bunch of folders with their content alltoguether? whats the command?
[06:15] <brian98> hrm
[06:15] <tanath> dk06, zsnes
[06:15] <dk06> what is the best version of xchat for gnome
[06:15] <Tommck> Healot - ahh... I'm an apt n00b... the first parm after the URL is some "repo"... then you tell it which branches (or some similar concept) to use under that?
[06:15] <ompaul> !compile > dennisharrison_A
[06:15] <surgy> dk06: the one that chats :)
[06:15] <ladydoor> !best
[06:15] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:15] <Healot> !repos
[06:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:15] <ompaul> !checkinstall > dennisharrison_A
[06:15] <brian98> surgy: I don't get that, I just don't tell it to use one.. Go back to the original url I sent you and have a look from the top
[06:16] <dk06> i cant seem to be able to log chat sesssions with xchat gnome 0.11
[06:16] <dk06> does anyone know how
[06:16] <dennisharrison_A> ompaul, thanks man
[06:16] <ompaul> dennisharrison_A, see the messages from the bot
[06:16] <surgy> brian98: will do
[06:16] <Tommck> Healot - can that bot do a direct cranial download?  that'd be a lot faster
[06:16] <dennisharrison_A> but I know how to compile and make and make install
[06:16] <brian98> surgy: It's a great app once you get it going...
[06:16] <surgy> brian98: of course im modifying the instructions some
[06:16] <cocos> !wireless
[06:16] <dennisharrison_A> im having a hard time finding documentation on getting pango to compile using ft2 backend
[06:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:16] <dk06> loggin is important for me, since im new to nix and would benefit from logs from this channel
[06:16] <dk06> i dont know where to enable it in xchat gnome 0.11
[06:17] <surgy> brian98: becuase the video file is an avi on my hdd, and not a dvd
[06:17] <brian98> thats fine
[06:17] <ompaul> !logs
[06:17] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:17] <brian98> I'm going to sleep , later!
[06:17] <dk06> niice
[06:18] <dk06> but how bout from different channels
[06:18] <dk06> how can i log them
[06:18] <dk06> like on different servers
[06:18] <surgy> brian98: i have 16 windows open do you mind if i pm you so i dont have to open another :)
[06:18] <brian98> course!"
[06:18] <cocos> hi, normally im used to windows but i just installed ubuntu is there a way to check if there are wireless connections?
[06:19] <tanath> anyone know how to get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs
[06:19] <ompaul> dk06, right click choose settings prefrernces logging
[06:19] <dk06> that doesnt work
[06:19] <dk06> all i can do is copy
[06:20] <dk06> i can save transcript
[06:20] <jba> hi guys, i can't seem to get f-spot to run, i have a previously installed development version of mono installed in /usr/local/lib
[06:20] <dk06> but i cant have the option
[06:20] <dk06> of auto loggin
[06:20] <jba> can anyone suggest a workaround?
[06:20] <dk06> like with other versions of xchat
[06:20] <Renan_s2> !quicktime
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <ompaul> dk06, well that is all I know about please read the next comment by the channel bot thanks
[06:21] <ompaul> !enter
[06:21] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:21] <jba> anhyone?
[06:22] <Neo8750> enter as puntuation does it mean
[06:23] <Neo8750> a[s a wquestion mark? =)
[06:24] <queuetue> Hi.  How do I give the root pw for maintenance?  (Forced fsck after crash)
[06:24] <ompaul> queuetue, did you add a root password if you did not you won't need one
[06:25] <jay> Greetings everyone
[06:25] <pipegeek> Hi, folks!
[06:25] <dennisharrison_A> ompaul, can you maybe give me a pointer if you have dealt with this particular case before?
[06:25] <pipegeek> Did the nvidia kernel module just break in dapper, or am I crazy?
[06:25] <queuetue> ompaul: I did not.  So it should not ask, or it will accept blank?  (Sorry, hosted server, and I cannot commuicate with the tech directly, so I'm blind.)
[06:25] <ompaul> dennisharrison_A, not that particular case
[06:25] <dennisharrison_A> ompaul, I am 'trying' to install gimp 2.3.11 and im getting al kinds of funky errors trying to install pangoft2
[06:25] <pipegeek> "unknown symbol boot_cpu_data", and "disagrees about version number of boot_cpu_data" in dmesg
[06:26] <cocos> how can i select a wireless connection whit ubuntu?
[06:26] <dennisharrison_A> ompaul, oh, well thanks :)
[06:26] <ompaul> queuetue, well they should not have to use one it should come up in single usermode
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  it seems to be working for me.. oor was there a new update recently?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !network-manager
[06:26] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  that sounds/looks like some sort of version conflict to me.
[06:26] <pipegeek> I tried compiling it from nvidia-kernel-source, but I got the same problem
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  let me update/upgrade and see :)
[06:27] <pipegeek> (I had been using the version pulled in by linux-restricted-modules)
[06:27] <TeePOG> evening
[06:27] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: thanks
[06:27] <g-nome> hello, what's the optimized linux KERNEL for amd athlon 64 ?(for 32bit usage, so not the 64bit version...)
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  what kernel are you using right now? (uname -a)
[06:27] <pipegeek> 2.6.15-26-k7
[06:28] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: err, sorry for not addressing that to you
[06:28] <dennisharrison_A> god ... this is insane! Gnome 2.3.11 had better take my camera outside and take the freaking pictures too!
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Linux    2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[06:28] <dennisharrison_A> everywhere I turn it needs something else :(
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> well - we seem to be using the same kernel version.
[06:28] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: crap, I have to disappear for a moment; I'll be back in 15 minutes or so.  Thanks for the help.
[06:29] <pipegeek> odd.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> ok :)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. the last version # is different...
[06:30] <ompaul> dennisharrison_A, why move to 2.3 when 2.2 works (mostly)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> oh wait here it is --> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[06:30] <dennisharrison_A> because of the better layering
[06:30] <dennisharrison_A> and the siox
[06:30] <dennisharrison_A> www.siox.org
[06:31] <ompaul> !gimp edgy
[06:31] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2891 kB, installed size 7896 kB
[06:31] <Hybernate> is it only in system monitor i can see if somet is using alot of cpu or
[06:31] <dennisharrison_A> doh
[06:31] <dennisharrison_A> hey heres one
[06:31] <dennisharrison_A> what kernel is currently in edgy?
[06:31] <dennisharrison_A> I havent used linux as a desktop os in a while
[06:31] <dennisharrison_A> been stuck on osx
[06:31] <cocos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23653 <- does this mean my wireless networkcard issnt supported?
[06:32] <Axidus> Greetings
[06:32] <jrib> dennisharrison_A: 2.6.17-7 but ask edgy questions in #ubuntu+1
[06:32] <commonlyUNIQU3> osx isn't a bad thing to be stuck on
[06:32] <dennisharrison_A> hah cool, plus 1 huh?
[06:32] <dennisharrison_A> thanks
[06:32] <tanath> anyone know how to get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs
[06:32] <commonlyUNIQU3> good question
[06:33] <commonlyUNIQU3> I've given up on that
[06:33] <jrib> !mouse
[06:33] <commonlyUNIQU3> what model mouse?
[06:33] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:33] <dennisharrison_A> no its not commonlyUNIQU3 , but I am needing some other stuff for dev right now
[06:33] <dennisharrison_A> guys it looks like im about to have the newest gimp installed
[06:33] <Axidus> Is anyone here a programmer
[06:33] <dennisharrison_A> can someone point me to the tut I read a while back about turning it into a .deb package?
[06:33] <Drakonik> Okay. I've installed the proper drivers and started the CUPS server, but I still can't print.
[06:34] <dennisharrison_A> Axidus, I am sure quite a few of us on some level
[06:34] <dennisharrison_A> Drakonik, what kind of error?
[06:34] <Drakonik> No error.
[06:34] <dennisharrison_A> and you are sure cups is running?
[06:34] <Drakonik> The page just never prints.
[06:34] <Drakonik> Yes.
[06:34] <smax> when i play UT2004,  initilize it from the terminal that is,  it outputs;    open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy
[06:34] <cronos3> has somebody installed ati 9250 card drivers?
[06:34] <smax> but when i play a dvd, i get sound
[06:34] <Axidus> Great
[06:35] <Axidus> I'm currently going to school for Information Technology and I recently converted my windows system to ubuntu (should'of done years ego) and I wanted to begin to learn how to program for linux
[06:35] <manmadha> i have installed wain how to start it/
[06:36] <manmadha> which type of operations supported by it?
[06:36] <surgy> anyone have suggestions on a good ubuntu torrent handler?
[06:36] <Axidus> I am in need of a best (non reinventing the wheel) way to contributing programming to the LInux community
[06:36] <total_meltdown> Axidus: I've had the most luck with C++, but Linux is very friendly with scripting languages like PHP or Ruby. You could also learn Shell scripting (Kinda like Windows Batch files, but much better)
[06:37] <magnet> Axidus: you need to learn a language, ie python
[06:37] <magnet> or eg :)
[06:37] <Renan_s2> Python is very easy to learn, IMHO.
[06:37] <total_meltdown> Axidus: If you want to contribute to the community, I'd suggest C or C++ - lots of projects are written in one of those
[06:37] <Renan_s2> Has very good documentation.
[06:37] <commonlyUNIQU3> whats everybody's preference here?  Ubuntu/Gnome or Kubuntu/KDE
[06:37] <Drakonik> Python rocks.
[06:37] <total_meltdown> KDE
[06:37] <magnet> Gnome.
[06:37] <Axidus> I'm familiar with C, Basic, and I have a C++ manual....
[06:37] <total_meltdown> *glare*
[06:37] <dennisharrison_A> python is a step in the right direction
[06:37] <total_meltdown> (jk)
[06:37] <Drakonik> KDE's too big for my hard drive, so I'm using GNOME.
[06:38] <dennisharrison_A> and much easier to catch then c
[06:38] <dk06> what is a really good irc client for gnome
[06:38] <surgy> can anyone point me at a good torent client?
[06:38] <Drakonik> dk06: Xchat.
[06:38] <total_meltdown> dk06: Gaim
[06:38] <dennisharrison_A> I use Xchat
[06:38] <magnet> Axidus: forget Basic and C. Use Python (and C for interfacing when you don't have the required bindings)
[06:38] <commonlyUNIQU3> I'm using Gnome and I just installed xchat
[06:38] <dk06> what version of xchat
[06:38] <commonlyUNIQU3> and this is my first time in IRC
[06:38] <Drakonik> The latest.
[06:38] <dk06> can u tell me which one that is
[06:38] <Drakonik> Just use the repos.
[06:38] <Drakonik> sudo apt-get install chat
[06:38] <dennisharrison_A> apt-get install xchat ? ;p
[06:38] <afflux> morgen
[06:38] <Drakonik> sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:38] <Axidus> Python. why python
[06:38] <dk06> k
[06:39] <magnet> Axidus: http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html this is a very good tutorial
[06:39] <cronos3> has somebody install an ati 9250?
[06:39] <pip> why can 't I listen to BBC with realplay ?
[06:39] <ninix> anyone have an idea how to fix this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-195432.html
[06:39] <commonlyUNIQU3> sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-systray
[06:39] <dennisharrison_A> cronos3, no, but are you trying to get 3d acceleration going?
[06:39] <dk06> what is xchat-systray
[06:39] <dennisharrison_A> it puts an icon there
[06:39] <Axidus> Magnet: I'll check it out
[06:39] <total_meltdown> pip: If you mean realplayer, you can't listen to BBC with it because it sucks (more specifically, I don't think there is a Linux version)
[06:39] <paniq> can somebody confirm this please: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/freetype/+bug/60760 ?
[06:39] <dk06> oh oik
[06:39] <dk06> ty
[06:40] <dennisharrison_A> there is a linux version of real player total_meltdown
[06:40] <pip> this morning yesterday it worked fine ,but now I can not
[06:40] <dennisharrison_A> they even package their own installer
[06:40] <pip> total_meltdown, I use realplayer linux version
[06:40] <total_meltdown> oh
[06:40] <total_meltdown> hmm
[06:40] <pip> total_meltdown, but is there any better for me ?
[06:40] <dennisharrison_A> hehe :), no worries who could possibly keep up with all the packages?
[06:41] <dennisharrison_A> what kind of stream are you listening too pip ?
[06:41] <dennisharrison_A> use mplayer or vlc probably
[06:41] <dennisharrison_A> im not sure amorok will handle it
[06:41] <pip> dennisharrison_A, what do you mean ? I think I always listen to BBC radio
[06:41] <commonlyUNIQU3> how do you register your name in IRC?  or do you just pick a new one every time?
[06:41] <Drakonik> So anyway. I've got no idea why I can't print anything.
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Axidus: You could start by recoding source code for vb (Planetsourcecode.com) to linux... Realbasic for linux is free
[06:41] <dennisharrison_A> pip no, the stream what format is it? I don't know what bbc streams, sorry
[06:42] <magnet> Jack_Sparrow: that's a very wrong idea
[06:42] <dennisharrison_A> commonlyUNIQU3, on freenode (where you are now) I think its /msg nickserv register <password>
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> magnet: Your opinion only
[06:42] <pip> just now I tried to listen to it ,it said that the content you received is not supported for the current codecs ,.....but yesterday I can use it ,it worked fine
[06:42] <magnet> Jack_Sparrow: enough for me :)
[06:43] <dennisharrison_A> pip, maybe they updated their stream?
[06:43] <commonlyUNIQU3> so I just type that in like a command?
[06:43] <Axidus> Jack_Sparrow: I'm still new to the concept of proggraming... I'm just looking for better resources for help when I get stuck, or resources for contributing what I learn to projects
[06:43] <pip> dennisharrison_A, I dont know the format ,but I am sure this time yesterday it worked fine
[06:43] <dennisharrison_A> pip, well I hate to say it like this .. but no one will be able to help you without more information
[06:43] <Axidus> how can I change my text that I sent from gray...geesh
[06:43] <pip> dennisharrison_A, OK
[06:43] <dennisharrison_A> pip, find out the name of the file it wants to stream
[06:44] <dk06> where can i find my logs from xchat
[06:44] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[06:44] <commonlyUNIQU3> yo
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Axidus: If you already know VB, planetsourcecode has a lot of code for all types of projects.  I have contribuled to it for years.
[06:44] <Axidus> I keep trying the settings and preferences and I cant seem to find the box for it
[06:44] <ompaul> dk06, .xchat/xchatlogs
[06:44] <magnet> Axidus: python is great to learn too; don't take my word for it, try it out.
[06:44] <JosefK> it's not mentioned on the wiki, but can the wpasupplicant handle WPA2?
[06:44] <ubuntu> i am wondering if there is a way to recover some information on this windows partition
[06:44] <gubluntu> did anyones workspace panel switcher get messed up with the last update?
[06:44] <linnuxxy> could anyone point me to a howto ro tutorial for using apt-zip please?
[06:44] <pip> dennisharrison_A, realplayer is not the best I admit ,but I can not install mplayer for some reasons ,so it is my only pet
[06:44] <dennisharrison_A> python imo would be the best language to pick up right now for a newbie
[06:45] <dk06> ty ompaul
[06:45] <magnet> Axidus: VB/basic is a dead platform under GNU/linux, you'd be estranging yourself by using it if you want to "contribute to the community". And VB is wrong for learning.
[06:45] <Drakonik> Python rocks for newbies.
[06:45] <Axidus> Is anyone here employed as a programmer?
[06:45] <ubuntu> pip totem xine is just about flawless
[06:45] <dk06> so u know where.xchat is located
[06:45] <Drakonik> dk06: .xchat2
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Axidus: Python is a good place to start...
[06:45] <dennisharrison_A> Axidus, Programming is a very wide field
[06:45] <total_meltdown> Axidus: Not currently, but I should be starting in a few days
[06:45] <Drakonik> dk06: In your home directory.
[06:45] <ubuntu> anyone able to help in recover stuff ffrom a borken hard drice
[06:45] <ubuntu> drive
[06:45] <dennisharrison_A> Axidus, I am a programmer ;p but that doesn't make my opinion worth anything my friend
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Axidus: I was a paid programmer in the early 80's.. Assy code for Commodore
[06:46] <dennisharrison_A> mmmm Jack_Sparrow asm
[06:46] <dk06> its not in home folder
[06:46] <total_meltdown> Axidus: I've done PHP/MySQL, Ruby on Rails, and this next job will be C and Visual Basic 6
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Axidus: Not even label making assemblers back then
[06:46] <Drakonik> dk06: Hit ctrl+h
[06:46] <ompaul> ubuntu, in some cases you can mount the drive using a live cd and see what is on it - with ubuntu a live cd and clicking on system administration disks may help YMMV
[06:46] <dk06> that doesnt do anytign
[06:46] <Drakonik> Yes it does.
[06:47] <Drakonik> It shows hidden files.
[06:47] <dk06> i just tried it
[06:47] <dk06> ok
[06:47] <Axidus> I'm currently going to the University of Phoenix online for my Information Technology Ass. then Bach. , I would like to be a Software engineer?
[06:47] <ubuntu> ompstried that won't let me mount anything
[06:47] <dk06> ty
[06:47] <ubuntu> ompaul: tried that it won't let me mount anythin g
[06:47] <gubluntu> why
[06:47] <dennisharrison_A> Axidus, do you REALLY want to be a software engineer? ;p
[06:47] <Axidus> any ideas on languages?
[06:47] <Axidus> yes
[06:47] <gubluntu> english and arabic
[06:47] <ompaul> !offtopic
[06:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:47] <Axidus> since i was a child i loved computers
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Axidus: Try a few things, look at lots of existing code.. get an idea as to what kind of app you want to write as different tools work better for different jobs
[06:48] <dennisharrison_A> yeah ompaul I know, just not sure of where to send him ;p
[06:48] <ompaul> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:48] <dennisharrison_A> there ya go
[06:48] <Axidus> ever since I first saw my first apple computer in elementary school
[06:48] <ompaul> Axidus, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic you are offtopic
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[06:49] <Axidus> sorry, got off topic...
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> or ##linux :P
[06:49] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, that is just evil
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> since its always offtopic in there.
[06:49] <magnet> Axidus: I've gotto go anyway; I program Free Software and have done so for quite some time. I'm not a python zealot (in fact, I used C, C++, Python but these days more often Ocaml or Eiffel for my own projects) but I think it's a great language to learn and it's really a product of the Free Software community
[06:49] <Axidus> well thanks guys
[06:49] <ubuntu> ompaul: any other ideas?
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> MIght as well tell him to go to #Debian
[06:49] <dennisharrison_A> lol
[06:49] <hantoo> eiffel ... had afun time with it :o
[06:49] <Axidus> thans magnet
[06:49] <JosefK> Axidus: python is a good place to start, but if you want a GUI quickly and fast results, Mono/C# is worth a look
[06:50] <dennisharrison_A> Mono not bad
[06:50] <ompaul> ubuntu, pay someone with skills better than yours - really your into serious magic at that level if you can't mount it like that
[06:50] <Axidus> JoseFK thanks
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> I just dont get the whole .NET / Mono thing... I need to read up on it.
[06:50] <Axidus> you guys take it easy I"m out for now
[06:50] <dennisharrison_A> ok .. anyone have a link handy for rolling up a .deb from my compiled source ?
[06:50] <Axidus> see you around
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> all i know is that .NET seems to rarely work right under windows. :)  I hope MONO  is better
[06:50] <ompaul> !checkinstall
[06:50] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[06:50] <dennisharrison_A> I think I saw a link like that around, somewhere, some moons ago
[06:50] <ompaul> dennisharrison_A, ^^
[06:50] <dennisharrison_A> thanks ompaul ;p
[06:51] <linnuxxy> can i make repositpry CD... with selected packages... I mean i need a specific packages regularly... can i build a CD which could be used with apt?
[06:51] <JosefK> linnuxxy: there's apt-zip
[06:52] <kenny> I am experiencing lock-up or Freezes when running the Live CD.  Does anyone have any idea as to what could be wrong?
[06:53] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: I'm back, but briefly
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> linnuxxy: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages  might help
[06:53] <pipegeek> Were you able to reproduce this?
[06:53] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: (thanks again)
[06:53] <exs> How do I update my sources list?..
[06:53] <karasop> I want to configure cvs service on Ubuntu but all instructions I found use inetd which is not installed on Ubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  i see no new kernel updates or anything to update/upgrade
[06:53] <dennisharrison_A> kenny, thats a BROAD question
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  so im not sure how things got broke
[06:54] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: Well, phooey
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kenny: Can we assume you had the cd do a self test for errors?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  i did see a url once that detailed how to rebuild/use the latest nvidia stuff from nvidia. but ive never done so.
[06:54] <kenny> yes
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kenny: Has your PC had any overheating problems.. is this a lappy?
[06:54] <kenny> The Cd Check came back 100%, and I ran memtest for 3 hours... no issues
[06:55] <kenny> It is a Dell XPS Laptop.  No issues overheating in windows
[06:55] <ompaul> !bootoptions
[06:55] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:55] <ompaul> kenny, ^^^ have a look at that
[06:55] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: I could give that a shot.  It's just odd; I mean, I did do an update yesterday, but obviously you're also at the latest update without problems.  But I've also done a rebuild myself, to no avail
[06:55] <kenny> OmPaul, Looking now.
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  ive done so much to this system im suprised it works.. but ive never had any issues with the kernel/nvidia stuff
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> pipegeek,  could remove --purge the packages and reinstall them. i guess
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> pipegeek: Are you running the 686 kernel?
[06:56] <pipegeek> no---k7
[06:56] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: Did that
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> could try some different kernels and reinstall the restricted/nvidia stuff for the other kernels
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> for all we know its a bugglet with the k7 kernel
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl... Play nice
[06:58] <sovieticool> how i program ubuntu to close after 2 hours ?
[06:58] <hyperb0lix> Anyone have Wolfenstein ET video problems with Ubuntu?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sovieticool,  you mean power off the whole machine?
[06:58] <Xal_> Is there a way to get 5.1 surround sound to work in ALSA with a Realtek ALC850?
[06:58] <rummik> ok, i'm having a weird issue with ogg files, they seem to play at 1/2 speed
[06:58] <sovieticool> yes Dr_Willis
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> hyperb0lix,  it worked good for me last i tried it.
[06:58] <hyperb0lix> Hmm, it just gives me a black screen, no sound either
[06:59] <hyperb0lix> Ubuntu 6.06
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> sovieticool,  use the shutdown command. it can give a time delay.
[06:59] <sovieticool> Xal_ same problem
[06:59] <Xal_> Hmm
[06:59] <Xal_> Do you have the same audo chip?
[06:59] <sovieticool> Dr_Willis, like shutdown 120
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> man shutdown
[06:59] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: I guess I'll give that a shot
[06:59] <gamma> anyone here on edgy?
[06:59] <sovieticool> nvidia karajan
[06:59] <karasop> help configure cvs. Anyone?
[07:00] <pipegeek> Dr_Willis: I appreciate the help, though.  Toodle-oo
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> /sbin/shutdown [-t sec]  [-arkhncfFHP]  time [warning-message] 
[07:01] <kenny> OMPaul... Check  WSP please
[07:01] <Renan_s2> !tor
[07:01] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[07:02] <tanath> i can't seem to get my thumb buttons working in gnome. they work fine in other WMs though. i've read !mouse
[07:02] <richee> Is there any deb package for the latest gnome power manager ?
[07:02] <trainchaser>  hi i've got a question: how to get working transparency in mplayer?
[07:02] <trainchaser>               other windows work ok with compiz, but when i try to set opacity other
[07:02] <trainchaser>               than 100% on gmplayer, the movie screen just goes blue, can i make the
[07:02] <trainchaser>               movie transparent?
[07:02] <trainchaser> im using KDE
[07:02] <ompaul> !enter
[07:02] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:02] <ompaul> or paste
[07:02] <orga> Is there any PDF Editor in Linux?
[07:02] <Xal_> use pastebin
[07:03] <ompaul> trainchaser, compiz is in #ubuntu-xgl not here
[07:03] <Rookie-> orga - pdf creator
[07:03] <linux__alien> how do i upgrade my kernel to 2.17
[07:03] <ompaul> !timetable
[07:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:03] <richee> gnome power manager doesn't work for me properly in ubuntu
[07:03] <linux__alien> i am running the default kernel provided in ubuntu but i would like to upgrade my kernel to the latest
[07:03] <linux__alien> how do i do it could some one help me out?
[07:04] <ompaul> linux__alien, you really don't need it in 99.99999% of the time and it won't have ubuntu specific patches in it - so if you want to you can do it - on your own
[07:04] <ompaul> !compile
[07:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:04] <Symbolizer> Xserver wont start. The log-file is empty and if i try to reconfigure the xorg.cionf file it says the xserver.xorg doesnt exist..What should i do?
[07:04] <orga> Rookie: how should I search in synaptics pdf-creator, do I need special repository ?
[07:05] <exs> To edit my sources.list and to save, I run terminal and type " su gedit /etc/apt/sources.list " right?
[07:05] <Rookie-> dunno - you asked for linux ;) not ubuntu
[07:05] <tanath> i can't seem to get my thumb buttons working in gnome. they work fine in other WMs though
[07:05] <ompaul> kenny, (A) what is wsp (B) my nick is lowercase (C) if you type the question in detail in the channel you will get more help than just me
[07:05] <linux__alien> ompaul, are you running the default kernel ? you have not updated?
[07:05] <dennisharrison_A> linux__alien, unless you need it for security or a specific hardware options ... I wouldn't jump the upgrade ship
[07:05] <ompaul> linux__alien, I keep up to date with Ubuntu updates
[07:06] <Symbolizer> anyone?
[07:06] <dennisharrison_A> Symbolizer, what did you do to get an incomplete xserver install? ;p
[07:06] <kenny> ompaul, I tried sending you a private message... or a wisper...  I wanted to pimp your for some info
[07:06] <Symbolizer> dennisharrison_A, i tried to install some ruby-development-thing. And when i compiled it i just saw how it removed my nvidia drivers, i was like wtf(?) and now xserver wont start.
[07:07] <ompaul> linux__alien, read the timed release page I will have the bot send you a message - we fix a program it will still work with others - if you go off with random libairies here and there you will end up with a less stable system
[07:07] <ompaul> !timetable > linux__alien
[07:07] <dennisharrison_A> Symbolizer, whoa
[07:07] <dennisharrison_A> Symbolizer, can you just reinstall your nvidia drivers ?
[07:07] <Vegeta^> Isn't there a viewer (for eps files) that is like ghostview, or similar. Because the default ones just opens the picture in Konqueror (which really sucks)...
[07:07] <THX-1138> ompaul "on point.."  ;)
[07:07] <OSUKid7`> hey, is there an apt package to install the Linux NIS tools to allow logins from a remote NIS server?
[07:07] <Symbolizer> well, i removed nvidia frmo the xorg.conf and it still wont work.
[07:07] <Symbolizer> So it shuold use the default settings i assume
[07:08] <ompaul> IronMask|Sleep, use a silent away message plaese
[07:08] <dennisharrison_A> wel
[07:08] <dennisharrison_A> well
[07:08] <ompaul> !away > IronMask|Sleep
[07:08] <dennisharrison_A> I forgot exactly
[07:08] <Rookie-> !nv
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <THX-1138> !nvidia
[07:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <dennisharrison_A> but I think its dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:09] <synthetic> edgy eft 6.10: does anyone know if it will auto detect/install the broadcom wirless 43xx drivers?
[07:09] <Xal_> how do i restart alsa?
[07:09] <Symbolizer> dennis, oh yea i remember i did try to install drivers yeterday it wouldnt work it missed files.
[07:09] <Symbolizer> and reconfigure xsderver brings me: Xserver.xorg isnt installed. lmao
[07:09] <ompaul> Symbolizer, if you removed it you need to regenerate  it  >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   << should choose sensible values for you
[07:09] <dennisharrison_A> synthetic, its #ubuntu+1 for edgy eft info
[07:09] <Symbolizer> ompaul, it says i dont have xserver.xorg..
[07:09] <JosefK> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:10] <Symbolizer> I tried that everyone
[07:10] <dennisharrison_A> even with phigh ?
[07:10] <Symbolizer> yes
[07:10] <dennisharrison_A> so apt-get remove and install xorg
[07:10] <JosefK> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <dennisharrison_A> or that ;p
[07:10] <exs> how do I update my repositories?.. is it apt-get sources.list?
[07:10] <Symbolizer> what if i reinstall ubnutu. will I lose my files? Or does it just reinstall ubuntu
[07:10] <ompaul> !repos > exs
[07:11] <JosefK> Symbolizer: installing ubuntu-desktop should fix problems with things like xorg missing
[07:11] <dennisharrison_A> Symbolizer, try what JosefK said
[07:11] <Symbolizer> oh ok
[07:11] <Symbolizer> thanks for your help guys
[07:11] <Ml1> hi, is it possible using gparted to change the indices of the partition table (ie make hda3 be hda1 for example) without erasing what is on the partition ?
[07:11] <THX-1138> !ubotu nv is also nvidia - see !info nv for package information.
[07:12] <Symbolizer> im gonna try it out!
[07:12] <dennisharrison_A> anyone here interested in testing out the latest gimp? I am making a .deb for it now
[07:12] <dennisharrison_A> want to see if I did it right, if so ill host it somewhere
[07:12] <lastnode> dennisharrison_A, what's new in it?
[07:12] <THX-1138> Good Morning Amaranth.
[07:13] <dennisharrison_A> siox and docking panels like in photoshop
[07:13] <dennisharrison_A> along with faster filters
[07:13] <Amaranth> Good afternoon. :)
[07:13] <dennisharrison_A> and better layering
[07:13] <Renan_s2> dennisharrison_A, I would like to test it.
[07:13] <Bazzi> I wonder why edgy doesn't have 2.3.10 in it :-(
[07:13] <Bazzi> would be HOT
[07:13] <dennisharrison_A> ok guys give me 15 minutes or so to upload it and the deps and ill post a link here
[07:13] <dennisharrison_A> yeah this is 2.3.11
[07:14] <SillyZ> anyone know where the trigger is to turn on the cpu fan and keep it turned on ?
[07:14] <SillyZ> this is a laptop of course
[07:14] <dennisharrison_A> SillyZ, yeah, its usually next to the midget with a hammer next to the hard drive
[07:14] <b14ck73425> thank god
[07:14] <PlancksCnst> Hello, all.
[07:14] <SillyZ> dennisharrison_A:  Ah i see, fired the midget last week for sleeping on the job
[07:15] <jamppa> son moro
[07:15] <dennisharrison_A> SillyZ, lazy suckers arent they? ;p  SillyZ I am guessing you mean a program to run the fan because its based on a sensor on the motherboard right?
[07:16] <SillyZ> dennisharrison_A: yup you got it, besides midget was getting nailed with hammer
[07:16] <ompaul> !fi
[07:16] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:16] <tanath> i can't seem to get my thumb buttons working in gnome. they work fine in other WMs though
[07:16] <PlancksCnst> After I get a driver loaded with modprobe, how do I assign a device to it?
[07:16] <THX-1138> turn on/off the fan  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[07:16] <SillyZ> dennisharrison_A: Ive looked into powernowd, and a few others nothing seems to do the job
[07:16] <dennisharrison_A> SillyZ, so what you need to do is follow that route of inquiry. Google.com/linux control laptop fan
[07:17] <luis> join #ubuntu-br
[07:17] <dennisharrison_A> is your motherboard supported?
[07:17] <SillyZ> dennisharrison_A:  been there googled that... still no luck
[07:17] <gean> hia all !
[07:17] <dennisharrison_A> sacrifice a goat and pray then?
[07:17] <THX-1138> !ubotu fan is "Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html"
[07:17] <tizio333> hi
[07:17] <Rookie-> 900 users - say hi to gean ;)
[07:18] <gean> i have some hard install problems ! allthese days i've reported them... can somebody please assist me in installing it?!
[07:18] <ompaul> THX-1138, don't use the " works better :)
[07:18] <dennisharrison_A> THX-1138, seems to have a lead
[07:18] <THX-1138> Okay, - Thank You ompaul
[07:18] <gean> Rookie-: hello to all 900! may the spirit of ubuntu be with us!
[07:19] <ompaul> THX-1138, actually there is an alias message so you can call the same factoid
[07:19] <SillyZ> dennisharrison_A: its an old piii-750 gateway solo 5300
[07:19] <THX-1138> ompaul - I don't understand. an alias message?
[07:19] <martin_> hi, I thinkt the latest kernel upgrade broek my sound. Anybody wanna help?
[07:19] <ompaul>   !divx is <alias> codecs
[07:19] <ubotu> divx is already known
[07:19] <ompaul> hehe
[07:19] <dennisharrison_A> !fan
[07:19] <ubotu> fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[07:20] <dennisharrison_A> ohhhh this is a seriously long make
[07:20] <omar> hello kubunteros
[07:20] <THX-1138> ompaul - Okay, In place of "is also foo" ?
[07:20] <ompaul> dennisharrison_A, there are only a few editors of the bot - due to a previous bot being abused so much that we had an hours work every couple of days
[07:20] <omar> I GOTTA A BIG TROUBLE
[07:20] <dennisharrison_A> I hope I got all the deps in here for you guys
[07:20] <ompaul> THX-1138, that is it
[07:20] <SillyZ> well considering ive booted with noacpi, thats prolly half the problem... lemme fix that and ill reboot
[07:20] <gean> The install problem is: NO install tool that i have from ubuntu (5.10 or 6.06 or xubuntu or whatever) can install on my laptop! in only one peculiar case i have the chance to ``do something'' (namely by using ubuntu-6.06-alternate !) else the Linux (live) tries to install and gets lost in an error mess ! ANY IDEA?!
[07:20] <ompaul> omar, you got big letters
[07:20] <martin_> Anyone has SND-HDA-INTEL sound driver?
[07:21] <dennisharrison_A> ompaul, lol
[07:21] <omar> sorry it's wasn't my fault
[07:21] <omar> I didn't see my caps' lock bottom
[07:21] <omar> sorry
[07:21] <dennisharrison_A> well, I don't need to be splitting my currently small ammount of free time up anymore, but I will contribute how I can since I use kubuntu as my desktop os while at work
[07:21] <SillyZ> brb
[07:21] <martin_> Anyone has SND-HDA-INTEL sound driver?
[07:21] <ompaul> !nv > THX-1138
[07:21] <synthetic> gean use fdiskto wipe the drive clean
[07:21] <ompaul> !nvidia > THX-1138
[07:22] <ompaul> THX-1138, done with !nv is <alias> nvidia
[07:22] <gean> gettin' closer: the alternate CD can go up to the point where the CD-ROM should be found! but there is no driver recognized there ... and i have no floppy on the laptop (what for in fact... with an other storage volume of 300GB)
[07:22] <omar> I gotta question i used this command mv file .file and I can't find the file anymore, I thought it as to hide a file but it's not there anymore
[07:22] <gean> synthetic what is doing fdiskto for me ?!
[07:22] <synthetic> omAR ls -a
[07:23] <MrKeuner> Hi, I am having problem to get sound in swf files. I know it is because their shitty binary but, is there a workaround or anything? If I change /etc/firefox/firefoxrc setting to aoss then I get constant firefox lock-ups. please help
[07:23] <synthetic> gean use fdisk, googe it
[07:23] <synthetic> google
[07:23] <goethe> can someone tell me why i am getting this error message while trying to run apt-get update?   "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htpp could not be found."
[07:23] <dennisharrison_A> goethe, you have a broken (spinning?) apt cache
[07:24] <goethe> oh... how do i fix it?
[07:24] <dennisharrison_A> not sure man, not much experience with apt-get
[07:24] <dealer> how can i setup the usb printer installed on ubuntu for network?
[07:24] <PlancksCnst> Can anyone tell me how to assign a device to a driver after I modprobe it?
[07:24] <reptyle> goethe, you probably have a typo in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:25] <ompaul> omar, mv foo /to/somewhere/else moves it to that other place; do this >> sudo updatedb << and then >> locate -i some-characters-from-missing-file<<
[07:25] <reptyle> goethe, one of your lines starts with deb htpp:// instead of http://
[07:25] <goethe> ah
[07:25] <gean> synthetic: i used something to have a 30GB free space on the HD, there is also some Debian running now! everything else but ubuntu can be installed. So fdisk should not be my problem... As i said, the install process cannot recognize my CD-ROM, although it boots from it !
[07:25] <MattJ> Is there any harm in removing the (x)ubuntu-desktop package?
[07:25] <ompaul> gean, put it in the other cd drive
[07:25] <reptyle> MattJ, nope ...
[07:25] <MattJ> I mean, I'm removing AbiWord, it's a dependency
[07:25] <dennisharrison_A> gean, well aside from trying the boot options and such not much to do
[07:26] <kirkunit> i'm called mattj
[07:26] <MattJ> Thanks
[07:26] <goethe> reptyle, dennisharrison:  Thank you
[07:26] <gean> ompaul: i have just one, it's a cheap laptop..
[07:26] <MattJ> You;re called MattJ? o_O
[07:26] <dealer> can someone help-me?
[07:26] <kirkunit> that's right... irl
[07:26] <dcroce> dealer: ask
[07:26] <MattJ> lol, what's your middle name? :)
[07:26] <ompaul> gean, strange
[07:26] <MattJ> I've found MattJ to be a common nick
[07:26] <kirkunit> n
[07:26] <MrKeuner> !help
[07:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:27] <dennisharrison_A> yes it is gean what does a no acpi boot give you?
[07:27] <dealer> dcroce: i have one usb printer conected on ubuntu, working fine.. i want to setup that to work on network, can you help-me?
[07:27] <surgy> man i have been in #tovid for a while
[07:27] <surgy> i need help with tovid
[07:28] <queuetue> How do I force a computer to enter the grub menu?  It seems to go straight to booting the kernel...
[07:28] <gean> dennisharrison_A : there were NO boot options at all... live CD  runs into nothing, error message on a black screen... and the ONLY chance to get 1 mm closer is the alternate CD in text mode.. there i have no recognition of my CD-ROM! (i can but explain the driver from floppy... well, not from my laptop, or choose between modules.. did it, no esult)
[07:28] <Xal_> queuetue, check your menu.lst
[07:28] <surgy> queuetue: your timer is probably set to low, you moniter isnt refreshing fast enough
[07:28] <Xal_> in /boot/grub
[07:29] <dealer> dcroce: do you know what i have to do?
[07:29] <THX-1138> ctrl+e   - to get the grub menu?
[07:29] <surgy> queuetue: try pressing buttons when the grub loader should be up
[07:29] <queuetue> surgy: unfortunately, I can't get the machine to boot, because of an fsck error that it wants a root pw to fix...
[07:30] <queuetue> surgy: I'm connected to it via a Java KVM thingie.
[07:30] <surgy> queuetue: sorry im too green to help you there
[07:30] <gean> as i said: (k,x)ubuntu live tool cannot give the ubuntu live, but all other (debian, knoppix, kanotix, ... have a live show !) is thee any ``ubuntu for usb that i can try ?!
[07:30] <dennisharrison_A> boot off a live cd queuetue and change the root password to what you want
[07:30] <surgy> queuetue: but i can suggest you use the ubuntu live cd for direct access
[07:30] <THX-1138> Editor Interface; entered by e from the main menu for GRUB configuration changes
[07:31] <dennisharrison_A> gean, its not supporting your hardware right ... what version are you trying?
[07:31] <dennisharrison_A> and I haven't used the alt install cd but there are no boot options with it?
[07:31] <paganini> Hey everyone. I am wondering - is anyone using SKYPE with ubuntu dapper and a SoundBlaster Live! card?
[07:31] <SillyZ> dennisharrison_A:  ok looks like I need to add a file called 'state' to /proc/acpi/fan   how do i go about this one? su'ing to root wont even let me create the file
[07:31] <inimesekene> what is pygst ?
[07:31] <TW-Ubuntu-User> I have a question about burning an ISO image file :)
[07:31] <wd3> how do i remove xfce or xubuntu? i did apt-get remove xubuntu desktop and rebooted on reboot xfce session is still there.
[07:32] <Neo8750> xubuntu-desktop is just a meta file
[07:32] <gean> dennisharrison: yes, hard (CD-ROM specially, maybe the primitive BIOS that came with this cheapest laptop) ware is not recognized... or not mounted properly! i tried both 5.10 and 6.06!
[07:32] <Neo8750> has no use other theninstalling
[07:32] <paganini> I am having a problem with Skype in that my mic appears to be working - I can hear myself in my headphones - but the person I'm talking to can't hear me. The forums seem to have other people with this problem, but no solution that I can find.
[07:32] <surgy> can someone please help? http://rafb.net/paste/results/6HTxlU12.html
[07:33] <radioman> hey
[07:33] <wd3> Neo8750, oh, ok, so how do i remove it?
[07:33] <gean> dennisharrison_A: yes, hard (CD-ROM specially, maybe the primitive BIOS that came with this cheapest laptop) ware is not recognized... or not mounted properly! i tried both 5.10 and 6.06!
[07:33] <TW-Ubuntu-User> Does anyone know if the CD/DVD Creator in Ubuntu under the "Places" menu can burn an ISO on a CD-R?
[07:33] <radioman> some question, after last update pppoe-start give me time out, what happend?
[07:33] <paganini> TW-Ubuntu-User, it can
[07:33] <dennisharrison_A> well gean you might need a custom boot cd
[07:33] <paganini> IIRC
[07:33] <surgy> tw-ubuntu-user: i whould get k3b
[07:33] <dennisharrison_A> I don't have much experience with that
[07:34] <paganini> But there is an easier way... right click on your iso and select "burn to disk"
[07:34] <Frio> can anyone help me setup a raylink wireless card .... im stumped atm
[07:34] <paganini> Nautilus has integrated CD burning
[07:34] <dennisharrison_A> gean, try an older version?
[07:34] <TW-Ubuntu-User> can it boot the ISO file if I burn it with CD/DVD Creator
[07:34] <stevejesus> I've lost my system tray in gnome and I cant get it back.  when i try to re-add it to the panel of my choosing, it is unavailable.  what should I do?
[07:34] <media_> quick question. It's been a while since I used grub and I'm needing some help.  Just did a dapper install on a box and it either didn't install the boot loader to the drive, or something else went wrong.  I can boot using the cd and "boot from hd" option.  The systme does have a raid card in it, but no drives on it. /dev/sda is the only drive (serial ata, not scsi). Any ideas on what command I need to run to get the boot loader (grub) into the mba?
[07:34] <THX-1138> !wep
[07:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:34] <surgy> i need help with tovid here is my error log http://rafb.net/paste/results/6HTxlU12.html
[07:35] <radioman> some question, after last update pppoe-start give me time out, what happend?
[07:35] <TW-Ubuntu-User> what is k3d?
[07:35] <stevejesus> I've lost my system tray in gnome and I cant get it back.  when i try to re-add it to the panel of my choosing, it is unavailable.  what should I do?
[07:35] <radioman> i need internet, please? ;{
[07:35] <orga> Is there any PDF Editor in Linux?
[07:35] <THX-1138> k3b is the kubuntu cd burning application
[07:35] <manmadha> !firewall
[07:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[07:35] <TW-Ubuntu-User> ooooooooh
[07:36] <surgy> tw-ubuntu-user: its like nero, but better, open your console and type "apt-cache search k3v"
[07:36] <paganini> TW-Ubuntu-User, GnomeBaker is also good, if you don't want to use KDE apps
[07:36] <manmadha> noo k3b
[07:36] <surgy> tw-ubuntu-user: sorry not k3v but k3b
[07:36] <TW-Ubuntu-User> ALso anyone know if there is a program for Linux that is as good if not better then Photoshop
[07:37] <gean> dennisharrison_A: yes... an older install tool... but even 5.10 is no longer available on the net... ( i had it fotunately also after upgrade on this mashine, i'm chating from... )
[07:37] <TW-Ubuntu-User> ok
[07:37] <paganini> So, does anyone here use skype even *without* a SoundBlaster Live! card?
[07:37] <radioman> yes
[07:37] <rummik> for some reason the sound is playing at half speed, anyone know how to fix this?
[07:37] <Skaag> i've used automatix to install the non-free flash player but my mozilla does not see it in about:plugins - any ideas how to fix this?
[07:37] <stevejesus> I've lost my system tray in gnome and I cant get it back.  when i try to re-add it to the panel of my choosing, it is unavailable.  what should I do
[07:37] <ompaul> !worjkforme
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worjkforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <Skaag> paganini: I use skype with my motherboard's sound card
[07:37] <ompaul> !worksforme
[07:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:37] <radioman> ech..
[07:38] <paganini> Skaag, cool. Did you have any problems with your mic, or did it "just work?"
[07:38] <dennisharrison_A> gean, I am sorry to say that I don't know what direction to point you in
[07:38] <Skaag> paganini: it works fine
[07:38] <rofl0r> i selected "complete removal" at a package entry in synaptic - now this package has completely disappeared from the list - how can i get it back again ?
[07:38] <ompaul> Skaag, please go to #automatix and raise the question there thanks
[07:38] <SillyZ> how does one create a device in /proc/acpi ??
[07:38] <Borat> hey guys, i just downloaded linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh, (quake 3 demo) and im trying to install it, i did chmod +x
[07:38] <Skaag> ompaul: thanks
[07:38] <orga> tw-ubuntu-user: GIMP for image processing does some as Adobe - K3B for burning is exceptional and easy
[07:38] <paganini> Hmm
[07:38] <DaveyJ> i'm building a backup server.. i'm going to be using a vmware image for the OS/software. what filesystem should i use within the VMimage and what filesystem should i use to put the VMimage on?
[07:39] <orga> Anyone knows about PDF editing software in Linux?
[07:39] <cowbud> anyone know what package contains 'append' ?
[07:39] <surgy> orga: i think open office can handle pdf
[07:39] <stevejesus> I've lost my system tray in gnome and I cant get it back.  when i try to re-add it to the panel of my choosing, it is unavailable.  what should I do
[07:39] <surgy> orga: try synaptic and search for pdf
[07:39] <CarinArr> orga, latex;)
[07:40] <rofl0r> i selected "complete removal" at a package entry in synaptic - now this package has completely disappeared from the list - how can i get it back again ?
[07:40] <gean> dennisharrison_A: thanks a lot for trying to help me, i think i have to do something like a net install or put a damn small linux and change kernel and install packages..
[07:41] <dennisharrison_A> gean, I like ubuntu but why do you go through so much trouble to get it running when you already have other debian varients working?
[07:41] <stevejesus> obviously my question is incredibly insignificant by comparison...
[07:41] <stevejesus> I've lost my system tray in gnome and I cant get it back.  when i try to re-add it to the panel of my choosing, it is unavailable.  what should I do
[07:42] <Borat> Can somone solve this thread... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1506818#post1506818
[07:42] <surgy> im fixing to rip linux out of my computer with a fucking ax!
[07:42] <ompaul> !language
[07:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:42] <surgy> sorry ubotu.....
[07:42] <vijay> how do u get the mac type object docklet in ubuntu
[07:43] <Borat> vijay, look in the how to section
[07:43] <Vaske_Car> Can anybody help me to install video driver for Viper 770 video card?
[07:43] <surgy> ! ubotu tovid
[07:43] <Caplain_> surgy: whats the issue?
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <vijay> what is it  calld ?
[07:43] <stevejesus> I have a very simple question...
[07:43] <surgy> caplain: been trying to burn a vcd for 8 days now and havnt even gotten a succesfull encoding
[07:43] <stevejesus> what do you do when your system tray in gnome becomes unavailable?
[07:43] <stevejesus> I am using 2.14
[07:44] <stevejesus> dapper drake
[07:44] <Caplain_> what software?
[07:44] <surgy> caplain: tovid
[07:44] <Caplain_> surgy: have you googled for "linux vcd howto" ?
[07:44] <surgy> caplain: i have tried at least 12 tutorials
[07:44] <stevejesus> tovid is fairly straightforward.
[07:44] <surgy> caplain: i just cant seam to make it work
[07:44] <flashplugin> hi, i flashplugin-nonfree but still dont have flash under firefox.. i rebooted firefox already
[07:45] <Abst> Anyone recommend a podcast downloader? (gui or not)
[07:45] <dennisharrison_A> whooo
[07:45] <dennisharrison_A> I tell ya what
[07:45] <Caplain_> surgy: what software are you using?
[07:46] <dennisharrison_A> gimp 2.3.11 makes me want to take a lead pipe to my monitor
[07:46] <surgy> caplain: tovid
[07:46] <stevejesus> PenguinTV is a great podcast downloader
[07:46] <Frio> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818      << can anyone help ???
[07:46] <Borat> Does anyone want a cookie? solve this thread and you shall get one... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1506818#post1506818
[07:46] <MrKeuner> Hi, I am having problem to get sound in swf files. I know it is because their shitty binary but, is there a workaround or anything? If I change /etc/firefox/firefoxrc setting to aoss then I get constant firefox lock-ups. please help
[07:46] <vijay> what do u call that mac style object dock in ubuntu ?
[07:46] <stevejesus> PenguinTV does video podcasts as well
[07:47] <surgy> dennisharrison_A: i know the fealing tovid is making me want to smash my motherboard into tiny peices and make a cereal for breakfast.
[07:47] <flashplugin> hi, i installed "flashplugin-nonfree" but still dont have flash under firefox.. i rebooted firefox already
[07:47] <dennisharrison_A> surgy, what is the problem?
[07:47] <dennisharrison_A> maybe I can help
[07:47] <stevejesus> holy crap, can anyone hear me?
[07:47] <c0nfidencal> hey all
[07:47] <dennisharrison_A> stevejesus, sort of ;p
[07:47] <Bvlaar> hey all
[07:47] <c0nfidencal> what i had to install
[07:47] <dennisharrison_A> what do you need?
[07:47] <surgy> dennisharrison_A: i have my error log file right here http://rafb.net/paste/results/6HTxlU12.html
[07:47] <c0nfidencal> so i can compile what i need
[07:47] <c0nfidencal> :)
[07:47] <THX-1138> flashplugin - Are any flash applets loading?  - asking because you will need to add fonts gsfonts and gsfonts-x11 later.  without them parts of web apps look blank.
[07:47] <c0nfidencal> ?
[07:47] <DaveyJ> i'm building a backup server.. i'm going to be using a vmware image for the OS/software. what filesystem should i use within the VMimage and what filesystem should i use to put the VMimage on? Reiser4, JFS, ext3 -- those are my main options
[07:48] <dennisharrison_A> surgy, just pm me, I don't want to read a link
[07:48] <DaveyJ> whoops didnt mean to repaste that entire thing
[07:48] <derrickh> does anyone know how to add the systray icons back to a gnome panel?
[07:48] <c0nfidencal> what i have to install, so i can compile what i need? :S
[07:48] <THX-1138> flashplugin adding msttcorefonts can be helpful for flash too
[07:48] <flashplugin> THX-1138: yes, firefox tells me i need to install a flash plugin when i open a website that has got flash applets
[07:49] <c0nfidencal> anyone?
[07:49] <Horizon>  derrickh, right click on the panel and click add to panel, then drag notification area where where you want it
[07:49] <THX-1138> Okay. - so it offers to install it for you then shows a manual install page, you d/l it and then what?
[07:49] <derrickh> ah its the notification area
[07:49] <baklestat> hey.. knows anyone how I can get a new theme for Ubuntu? I dont like this one that I am using..
[07:49] <stevejesus> i have a rediculous problem, can someone help me if i ask the question?  im not a nowb asking retarded questions about dvd-ripping and other potentially illegal activity, i just want my system tray.  i dont know where it went, i dont know how to get it back.  after using gnome since 2.4, this has never happened to me.  have this happened to anyone else?  I am using 2.14 on dapper.  is this a common issue?
[07:49] <derrickh> thanks Horizon
[07:49] <surgy> c0nfidencal: you should spell your name right........ what are you trying to do?
[07:49] <c0nfidencal> well
[07:49] <c0nfidencal> i need to compile 1 thing
[07:50] <c0nfidencal> but i cant
[07:50] <Horizon> :)
[07:50] <c0nfidencal> i dont have any compilers or something like that
[07:50] <c0nfidencal> so what do i have to install :P
[07:50] <hondje> stevejesus: right click on a panel, add an applet, and choose notification area .... that should do it
[07:50] <Frio> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818      << can anyone help ???
[07:50] <THX-1138> !flash
[07:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <stevejesus> hondje, no that doesnt work
[07:50] <stevejesus> it is just GONE
[07:50] <surgy> c0nfidencal: i think your talking about gcc-c++ look that up
[07:50] <THX-1138> flashplugin - Did that help?
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> hm
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> !compile
[07:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:51] <hondje> That's not good, can't imagine why it wouldn't work
[07:51] <flashplugin> THX-1138: im browsing right now :) thanks so far
[07:51] <hondje> You realize that you'll have to re-add the little applets like the clock and the volume control, right?
[07:51] <lynn> Good day! what the comand to view availabel packages from terminal?
[07:51] <M3t4ll1k0> a ver algun guru/entendido que le eche un ojo a este: http://www.hard-h2o.com/verpost/426016.html
[07:52] <hondje> not included in what you're calling the system tray
[07:52] <M3t4ll1k0> es interesante palabra
[07:52] <M3t4ll1k0> xD
[07:52] <stevejesus> notification area is no longer available in the add applets dialog.
[07:52] <rummik> anyone know why i could have problems with sound output being slow?
[07:52] <hondje> stevejesus: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-applets perhaps...other than that, I can'tthink of a reason it would be gone
[07:54] <stevejesus> hondje I went as far and reinstalling ubuntu-destop, still no dice.  has to be in a config somewhere.
[07:54] <rummik> lspci says my card is a "VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller"... is there a known issue with it playing sounds slowly?
[07:55] <THX-1138> stevejesus - sudo gconf-editor will give you access to at least some of the settings
[07:55] <hondje> stevejesus: hrm ... well if you want to play around with it, the gconf settings are in /apps/panel/default_setup/applets or /apps/panel/applets
[07:55] <stevejesus> no matches in gconf-editor.
[07:56] <stevejesus> there is just no trace of 'notification area' anywhere.
[07:56] <dennisharrison_A> guys I am having a REALLY difficult time of making a .deb that works from my source, anyone here have experience with this?
[07:57] <hondje> nuke it all ;-)
[07:57] <THX-1138> hondje -lol you are ba-ad.
[07:57] <dennisharrison_A> well I cleaned it
[07:57] <dennisharrison_A> configured without any funky options
[07:57] <dennisharrison_A> just a prefix
[07:57] <dennisharrison_A> and make and make install work
[07:58] <dennisharrison_A> but when I checkinstall I get permission errors
[07:58] <dennisharrison_A> no matter if I run it as root
[07:58] <Horizon> permission errors?
[07:58] <Horizon> what kind?
[07:58] <dennisharrison_A> and I even precreated the directories and chmod'ed them 777 out of frustration
[07:58] <darnell> what do i use to get my home folder on my desktop
[07:58] <dennisharrison_A> hold one sec I think I got it this time ;p
[07:59] <Renan_s2> dennisharrison_A, sudo checkinstall
[07:59] <Renan_s2> or install fakeroot
[07:59] <Renan_s2> !fakeroot
[07:59] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 376 kB
[07:59] <Horizon> darnell, run gconf-editor and go to app>nautilus and there should be an option to have home folder as desktop
[07:59] <dennisharrison_A> I did it by sudo Renan_s2
[07:59] <Horizon> apps>nautilus* sorry
[07:59] <THX-1138> darnell - right click on the desktop and create a link add the path to the desired folder.
[07:59] <dennisharrison_A> I even tried sudo su - then run it
[07:59] <ompaul> dennisharrison_A, sudo -i if you must
[08:00] <Horizon> wait...is darnell trying to have a shortcut to his home folder on his desktop or have his home folder AS his desktop?
[08:00] <EnsignRedshirt> dennisharrison_A: For what it's worth: I have only created one .deb file ever, and I used epm: http://www.easysw.com/epm/
[08:00] <hondje> He asked what you answered, Horizon ... at least as far as I understood his q
[08:00] <darnell> as my desktop
[08:00] <darnell> i think i downloaded something before that did it..
[08:01] <dennisharrison_A> thanks guys looking into it
[08:01] <hondje> darnell: yeah, then do what Horizon said
[08:01] <darnell> k
[08:01] <Clever_Nick> I have a mirror raid with hpt454 for my main hd, and ubuntu keeps seeign the drives individually,  is this a kernel issue?
[08:03] <vijay> what is the name of the linux app which is like the object dock thingy that mac has
[08:03] <hondje> well, define seeing them individually. Naturally there will be two device entries and all that
[08:03] <MrKeuner> I am having problem to get sound in swf files. I know it is because their shitty binary but, is there a workaround or anything? If I change /etc/firefox/firefoxrc setting to aoss then I get constant firefox lock-ups.
[08:03] <dennisharrison_A> vijay, are you talking about the sled thing from I think suse?
[08:03] <Clever_Nick> there is a hda and hdb
[08:04] <vijay> is there one for ubuntu
[08:04] <vijay> i have seen snapshots of ubuntu
[08:04] <vijay> in which there is this docklet in the bottom
[08:04] <Clever_Nick> while under windows, and bios setup....your only supposed to see 1 drive....since it is a mirror
[08:04] <vijay> i want to install it .. but i dont know the name of the application
[08:05] <linnuxxy> i need these file base, base.xml, base.lst which are located in /etc/X11/xkb/rules/
[08:05] <linnuxxy> how can i get them from the net?
[08:05] <surgy> I HAVE A QUESTION: whosa geek?
[08:06] <botxj> i'm not a geek
[08:06] <botxj> i just like computers too much
[08:06] <hondje> I hate computers.
[08:06] <Frio> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818      << can anyone help ???
[08:06] <Horizon> MrKeuner, try starting firefox with "aoss firefox"
[08:06] <Horizon> does it still lock up?
[08:06] <botxj> aoss?
[08:06] <jaggz-> how do I burn an audio cd?  can cd/dvd creator do audio?
[08:06] <botxj> what is this command called "aoss" ?
[08:06] <flashplugin> THX-1138: problems solved by reinstalling the plugin thanks for your help
[08:07] <Horizon> it makes the app use aoss for sound
[08:07] <hondje> jaggz-: when you put in a blank CD, it should pop up a thing asking if you want to make an audio cd
[08:07] <surgy> jaggz: type this in your konsole, "apt-cache search k3b"
[08:07] <rgg> xine stopped playing mp3 here some days ago,very weird problem,i don't think i updated it or anything,i went to sleep and it was working,when i woke up it gave up mp3 files :P
[08:07] <jaggz-> hondje, just pops up "CD/DVD Creator" which I've been successful in using to create data CDs
[08:07] <jaggz-> k3b .. ok
[08:07] <rgg> how can i solve it?downloading some other version of xine?if so,where?
[08:08] <jaggz-> waiting for aptitude to finish something
[08:08] <botxj> what is this command called "aoss" ?
[08:08] <hondje> jaggz-: well, run 'serpentine' by default, though lots of people love k3b for some reason
[08:08] <botxj> nevermind
[08:08] <Mkquist> jaggz - never used graveman- better than k3b?
[08:08] <THX-1138> flashplugin :)
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use k3b
[08:09] <jrib> rgg: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[08:09] <rgg> jrib: let me see
[08:09] <jaggz-> it came and went
[08:09] <jaggz-> dunno if it's any good.. never used k3b either .. not yet
[08:09] <Mkquist> ic
[08:09] <rgg> jrib: yes
[08:10] <Horizon> k3b is better than graveman but graveman is probably the best option if you want a gtk app I think
[08:10] <THX-1138> jaggz - k3b is so powerful it is a bit frightening.
[08:10] <Horizon> if you can ignore or can be bothered to change the ugly graveman icons and logos
[08:10] <jrib> rgg: hmm that sould let you play mp3's.  Does xineplug_decode_mad.so exist on your system?
[08:10] <surgy> jaggs: k3b is similar to nero
[08:10] <rgg> jrib: where should i look for it?
[08:10] <Horizon> but if you don't mind qt apps too much then just run k3b...it's miles better than any of the competition
[08:11] <jrib> rgg: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2/xineplug_decode_mad.so is where I have it, but I am on edgy
[08:11] <jaggz-> graveman seems okay.. there seems to be some simplicity to it..
[08:11] <jaggz-> too much almost
[08:11] <Horizon> nah, it has more functions than gnomebaker even though it seems so simple
[08:11] <Horizon> lol
[08:11] <jaggz-> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23440.html  View Full Version : FAQ: How do I record CD's and DVD's?
[08:11] <jrib> rgg: just do 'dpkg -L libxine-extracodecs | grep decode_mad' and then see if that file exists
[08:11] <rgg> jrib: yes,it exists
[08:11] <jaggz-> Description: This is a GTK2 based CD Recording application that integrates nicely with Gnome. It supports duplicating audio and data CD's, recording ISO's, and formating rewritable disks and recording audi CD's from MP3's.
[08:12] <rgg> i found it "manually",if you know what i mean :P
[08:12] <rgg> jrib: in /usr/lib/sine/1.1.1
[08:12] <rgg> xine*
[08:12] <jrib> rgg: which do you use: xine-ui, gxine, or totem-xine?
[08:12] <britt> is there another program like banshee that is available? banshee gives me data input errors randomly
[08:12] <dennisharrison_A> alright, got it this time im pretty sure guys
[08:12] <rgg> jrib: gxine and totem-xine
[08:12] <dennisharrison_A> who wants some gimp 2.3.11? ;p
[08:12] <rgg> jrib: but my main mp3-playing application is amarok
[08:13] <Frio> problem setting up raylink wireless card >>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818  << can anyone help ???
[08:13] <rgg> jrib: that's the problem,amarok has support for nothing but xine
[08:13] <sklav> rgg, amarok supports gstreamer also
[08:13] <jrib> rgg: oh, can you check that gxine is playing mp3's then?
[08:13] <jaggz-> graveman seems to have locked up
[08:13] <rgg> sklav: oh,really?well,that's great
[08:14] <sklav> install gstreamer amarok plugin
[08:14] <willzzz> xine is great, the backend engine decodes ltierally everything I throw at it
[08:14] <britt> gstreamer causes my banshee player to lock up
[08:14] <Alerik26> hello, anybody knows a spanish server ?????
[08:14] <rgg> jrib: it doesn't "No demuxer found - stream format not recognized"
[08:14] <britt> i mean have data input errors every so oftne
[08:14] <hondje> Alerik26: #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <SillyZ> whats the difference between the ubunut cdrom and the dvdrom ?  more packages locally i assume but thought id ask
[08:14] <rummik> hey, i'm having trouble with the sound on here, it seems to be playing everything about 1/2 the speed it should, which makes the voices sound deep and movies studder.
[08:14] <Alerik26> thanks hondje
[08:14] <Horizon> lol in gnome cvs banshee w/ plugins is better than amarok if you can learn to use the search-as-you-type instead of a library browser
[08:14] <rgg> sklav: gstreamer amarok plugin?where?
[08:15] <sklav> rummik, check that dma is enabled
[08:15] <jaggz-> ooh.. it's burning
[08:15] <jaggz-> thanks bubs
[08:15] <rummik> sklav: how do i do that?
[08:15] <britt> banshee keeps popping up errors for me
[08:15] <sklav> hdparm is what i use
[08:15] <britt> completly randomly its wierd
[08:15] <sklav> hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda for example
[08:16] <hondje>  /etc/hdparm.conf for persistent settings
[08:16] <sklav> rgg use synaptic and search for amarok
[08:16] <sklav> u will see a gstreamer plugin for it
[08:16] <Alerik> hondje, how can I to go spanish city ????
[08:16] <lewix> I had a issue with the gnome screensaver so I disabled it so that xscreensaver is the default screensaver however , when my computer idle for a long time it freeze
[08:17] <lewix> any idea?
[08:17] <britt> so how would i fix my errors with banshee
[08:17] <britt> use a different plugin for audio
[08:17] <sklav> lewix, that usually happens when your computer goes into sleep mode
[08:17] <britt> i already upgraded
[08:17] <sklav> do you have acpi enabled in the bios?
[08:18] <lewix> ?
[08:18] <lewix> it's the first time it happens for me sklav
[08:18] <rummik> sklav: it's not just movies, it's *everything* that has slow sound, like streaming audio from internet radio stations
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i clear the terminal history
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> try the 'history' command yet? :P
[08:18] <sklav> rummik, it sounds like a dma issue
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> doh
[08:19] <phaedrus44> any advice on booting ubuntu on an external usb hd
[08:19] <phaedrus44> ?
[08:19] <IndridCold> Hey, I am new to this Linux thing, and was wondering if anyone could help me out with getting my time off Military, and back to the normal AM/PM
[08:19] <britt> i dont trust USB for booting anything
[08:19] <sklav> IndridCold, right click on the time and set it to 12 hour
[08:19] <jbroome> IndridCold: right click on the clock and go to preferences.  change to 12 hr
[08:19] <rmd> IndridCold: right click the clock and goto preferences
[08:19] <jbroome> damn, too slow
[08:19] <rmd> woops
[08:19] <sklav> ;)
[08:19] <Xorlev> Has anyone else experienced their ipw2200 wireless cards stop associating after the latest kernel update yesterday?
[08:20] <rummik> sklav: it's just audio stuff and it was working perfectly from the cd, and last night aswell, so i don't think it's dma
[08:20] <phaedrus44> im not worried about trust...just trying to figure it out
[08:20] <sklav> jbroome, i cut a corner
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> phaedrus44,  that "Ubuntu hacks" book has a chapter on doing exactly that.. and its somewhat detailed
[08:20] <IndridCold> Ah HA! Thanks you muchly!
[08:20] <phaedrus44> cool thanks Dr_Willis
[08:20] <sklav> rummik, what is the load average?
[08:20] <rummik> sklav: 5%
[08:20] <sklav> hum
[08:20] <sklav> have you rebooted since?
[08:21] <rummik> sklav: yeah, few times
[08:21] <botxj> since i have 64 bit ubuntu, is there a way to get 32 bit firefox from the ubuntu appget database?
[08:21] <rgg> sklav: i can't find any gstreamer for amarok,only xine and arts
[08:21] <Frio> problem setting up raylink wireless card >>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818  << can anyone help ???
[08:21] <sklav> what changes did you make... example did you install anything
[08:21] <botxj> or will i have to compile 32 bit firefox myself using "linux32" ?
[08:21] <rgg> sklav: but arts won't install because i'm using amarok 1.42 and it's for amarok 1.39
[08:21] <sklav> rgg do you have universe enabled?
[08:22] <JosefK> botxj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29
[08:22] <lmosher> botxj, there is a 32-bit firefox in the deb package system
[08:22] <botxj> thank you JosefK, and lmosher
[08:22] <rgg> sklav: wow,i didn't
[08:22] <lmosher> botxj, I'm on 32 bit now, but I belive it was called firefox32
[08:23] <sklav> lmosher, i think by default firefox is 32bit
[08:23] <lmosher> sklav, nope
[08:23] <lmosher> sklav, at least when I isntalled 64-bit the firefox is 64bit, and you need 32 bit to get thigns like flash to work
[08:23] <Horizon> doesn't 64-bit automatix do the 32-bit firefox installation or am I mistaken?
[08:23] <sklav> ah ok
[08:23] <JosefK> lmosher: it's not in the universe/multiverse, do you have a different repository enabled for it?
[08:23] <rummik> sklav: would dma be an issue with on board sound?
[08:23] <lmosher> that wouldn't surprise me Horizon.. though I don't know. the only thing "missing" from the 64-bit version is flash
[08:23] <davvs> is it possible to get MS Word working with wine in ubuntu?
[08:24] <sklav> rummik, yes because it reading it from the hdd
[08:24] <lmosher> JosefK, I'm honestly not sure, I remember searching for "flash in 64 bit" or something like that and found something about it on google...
[08:24] <Bvlaar> hey, anyone here good at operating synergy on ubuntu?
[08:24] <sklav> and if your doing anything else you will notice stuttering and slowdowns
[08:24] <kmartens> hellow
[08:24] <kmartens> i have question
[08:25] <sklav> we might have answers
[08:25] <sklav> ;)
[08:25] <Topkla> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[08:25] <rummik> sklav: so, half speed sound being a constant would be dma then? even for internet radio?
[08:25] <lmosher> wee
[08:25] <kmartens> this is the first time i installed ubuntu...
[08:25] <sklav> rummik, from experience yes as for internet radio its buffered on the hdd also
[08:25] <lmosher> kmartens, what's the question?
[08:25] <Frio> problem setting up raylink wireless card >>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818  << can anyone help ???
[08:26] <rummik> sklav: ok, i'
[08:26] <kupesoft> there's Ubuntu Christian Edition - I propose a new fork called JEWBUNTU!!!!
[08:26] <sklav> try from a command line hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[08:26] <rummik> ll follow the wiki on setting it up then
[08:26] <kmartens> but while starting up (live cd ofe something) while theconfig power management he give's an error:
[08:26] <phaedrus44> Dr_Willis:   cant seem to find the article on boot usb hard drive
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> kupesoft,   gee... do i even want to google for that.
[08:26] <Bvlaar> Yo could someone help me set up a synergy client ???
[08:26] <sklav> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda or sda
[08:26] <kmartens> unable to lcate RSDP
[08:26] <Xorlev> rummik: Generally wouldn't be too much of a problem, considering 192kbps (max stream kbps I use) is far less than even the HDD in PIO mode.
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> phaedrus44,  in the ubuntu hacks book? it was one of the first ones.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Bvlaar,  read the syngery docs yet? you  edit the syntegy config file and define the layout there.. then be sure to kill/restart the syngery server.
[08:27] <Jamminpotato> is knot 3 stable enough for normal desktop usage?
[08:27] <Jamminpotato> is knot 3 stable enough for normal desktop usage?
[08:27] <Hor|zon> whether it's stable now or not, I'd say wait for the release candidate
[08:28] <Bvlaar> Dr_Wills, yes I have I am curious to how to get to the configure file?
[08:28] <jrib> !edgy
[08:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:28] <kupesoft> Alright, I'm making jewbuntu... who's helping?
[08:28] <botxj> !edgy
[08:28] <Xorlev> Bvlaar: You create it from scratch
[08:28] <botxj> hey, how come i cant do that?
[08:28] <botxj> lol
[08:28] <kmartens> that error stands by acpi ore something, and i don't think that that pc has acpi
[08:28] <lmosher> botxj, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 <--- How to install firefox32
[08:28] <jrib> botxj: he doesn't repeat things so soon
[08:28] <botxj> ah, smart bot
[08:29] <rummik> sklav: i just enabled dma for the drive the linux partition and swap space is on, still the same problems...
[08:29] <kmartens> sow any possibility for disabling search for acpi?
[08:29] <mwe> eh
[08:29] <Jamminpotato> !schedule
[08:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:29] <sklav> rummik, did you mess with any audio settings example alsa?
[08:29] <GaiaX11> A friend of mine came here and tried do access his company PHP database through my ubuntu and he couldn't. Then he started talking badly about my linux and boasting about his WinXP. So, Why didn't he managed to access his database. Would be it because i also need to install PHP in my ubuntu?
[08:29] <dennisharrison_A> oh my god
[08:29] <dennisharrison_A> surgy, WTF are you doing?!
[08:29] <lmosher> the humanity!!!!
[08:29] <Jamminpotato> Hor|zon, why wouldnt you use knot 3, isnt knot an rc or is it beta
[08:29] <dennisharrison_A> stop spamming me danmit
[08:29] <rummik> sklav: not that i know of...i've been installing codecs today, though
[08:30] <Hor|zon> Jamminpotato, it's beta
[08:30] <Jamminpotato> Hor|zon, but its pretty close to being an rc
[08:30] <sklav> rummik, can it be a conflict with codecs?
[08:30] <lmosher> JosefK, Or was it you that wanted to isntall firefox32? I forget :/
[08:30] <Hor|zon> Jamminpotato, it doesn't get released for over a month...a lot happens in the last month of ubuntu betas
[08:30] <mfuentes> Exists a channel where to talk about compiz+ubuntu?
[08:30] <jrib> !xgl
[08:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:30] <Frio> problem setting up raylink wireless card >>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818  << can anyone help ???
[08:31] <lmosher> mfuentes, #ubuntu-xgl is a good channel or jsut #xgl
[08:31] <rummik> sklav: i don't think so, i've installed the same codecs that i have on my laptop
[08:31] <mfuentes> lmosher, thanks
[08:31] <sklav> rummik, im at a loss somewhat
[08:32] <Xorlev> Frio: Spamming won't help.
[08:32] <rummik> sklav: do you know how i would change the sound output settings? because that sounds like the problem
[08:32] <sklav> under preferences there is an option fro sound
[08:32] <sklav> exact location i cannot tell you as im testing novell at the moment
[08:33] <sklav> :|
[08:33] <rummik> sklav: ah, ok
[08:33] <Hor|zon> Jamminpotato, if you're experienced or want to gain experience with ubuntu though I'd say go for it...just don't complain when you don't have a desktop some evenings =_= unless you can fix it yourself that is
[08:33] <infidel> i'm sacred.
[08:34] <infidel> i'm sacred. to upgrade, i have everything working good. any advice.
[08:34] <Bvlaar> could anyone help me find the rite CONFIG file for synergy-1.2.8
[08:34] <Frio> problem setting up raylink wireless card >>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258818  << can anyone help ???
[08:35] <themachine> which lisp implementation is good on ubuntu?
[08:35] <jrib> infidel: upgrade from what to what?
[08:35] <rbu> hi everyone
[08:36] <DualC> Hi everyone, how become i cant install GRUB .. on Ubuntu 6.06-1 ??
[08:36] <infidel> jrib: there serveral packages in my updates, like wine, kernel, compiz
[08:36] <rbu> i've got a question about ubuntu cd shipping (from shipit.ubuntu.com) -> who is responsible for the shipment?
[08:36] <infidel> jrib: and fglrx
[08:37] <Lil_Shank> what do i do with a .patch file?
[08:37] <rbu> as in: is this done by Canonical and their employees and do they pay for that
[08:37] <jrib> infidel: if you are using official repositories, you should not have a problem
[08:37] <jrib> Lil_Shank: man patch, usually patch -p0 < file.patch
[08:37] <infidel> jrib: should being the keyword
[08:37] <Test_> Hello, I need to install a package for which the post-install script fails, but this is fine as all that configuration is already done. I just need dpkg to skip this. what's the switch I need to pass to dpkg?
[08:38] <Hor|zon> Lil_Shank, you patch source code with it
[08:38] <Hor|zon> =_=
[08:38] <Hor|zon> with the patch command
[08:38] <DualC> I have tried, to install DVD dist of 6.06-1 for about 5 times now.. and it stops at GRUB install all da times.... :/
[08:38] <xjonex> hi, i have problems with msi megasky 580 digital tv tuner, anyone who has got it work with ubuntu?
[08:38] <Lil_Shank> what about when it says it cant find the file to patch?
[08:39] <jrib> Lil_Shank: what are you trying to do?
[08:39] <Hor|zon> try using Np1 if you were using Np0 or viceversa
[08:39] <Hor|zon> Lil_Shank
[08:39] <dennisharrison_A> uhmm
[08:39] <Lil_Shank> I'm trying to get drivers for my scanner so i can use it
[08:40] <Lil_Shank> I found this but its in a .patch form and i dont have the file it is supposed to patch
[08:40] <jrib> !scanner
[08:40] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:40] <dennisharrison_A> how many people here want gimp-2.3.11 (dev branch for 2.4) I think it closes the gap on photoshop?
[08:40] <jrib> Lil_Shank: maybe those can help?
[08:40] <dennisharrison_A> pm me for download link
[08:40] <Lil_Shank> ill read em
[08:40] <Lil_Shank> thanks
[08:41] <DualC> Anyone...
[08:41] <DualC> wanna help me. ?
[08:41] <botxj> what's a good site to get GNOME themes so i can trick it out?
[08:42] <JosefK> botxj: art.gnome.org
[08:42] <botxj> ty
[08:42] <tjb891> what is the  HP printing and imaging system?
[08:42] <Hor|zon> for hp printers and cameras?
[08:42] <tjb891> ok
[08:42] <tjb891> so i can turn it off if i don;t have one right
[08:42] <Hor|zon> yeah, I did
[08:43] <jrib> botxj: gnome-look.org as well
[08:43] <tjb891> thx
[08:43] <botxj> ok, jrib
[08:43] <botxj> just like kdelook.org right?
[08:43] <jrib> botxj: yeah
[08:43] <Mersault> How do I tell dpkg to skip configuration for a package?
[08:43] <xjonex> DualC, Do you have some virus protection on  in your computer's BIOS, it's prevents to write in boot sector...
[08:44] <Gamekiller> what the preferred way of updating PATH in ubuntu or more so the easiest
[08:44] <Xorlev> Has anyone else experienced their ipw2200 wireless cards stop associating after the latest kernel update yesterday?
[08:44] <Blissex> Mersault: tell it not to run scripts. 'man dpkg'
[08:44] <tjb891> in bum does anyone know what  a horisontal line mean in the running columns?
[08:44] <JosefK> Mersault: camus reader?
[08:45] <botxj> is compiz like gnome or is it it's own desktop system?
[08:45] <Mersault> Blissex: I've been searching the man page, but I can't find the switch. I'm probably just missing it...
[08:45] <tjb891> bum!
[08:46] <botxj> is compiz like gnome or is it it's own desktop system?
[08:47] <Hor|zon> botxj, compiz is a replacement for metacity
[08:47] <Hor|zon> not gnome
[08:47] <dennisharrison_A> http://www.theabsoluteit.com/gimp/gimp-2.3.11-ubuntu.tar.gz
[08:47] <dennisharrison_A> ok its up
[08:47] <dennisharrison_A> please grab it and test it for me
[08:47] <Hor|zon> metacity = window manager
[08:47] <Hor|zon> gnome = desktop environment
[08:47] <mwe> !gaim2
[08:47] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[08:47] <botxj> so what does gnome or kde use as a window manager?
[08:47] <Hor|zon> gnome uses metacity by default and kde uses kwin
[08:48] <Hor|zon> but you can replace kwin or metacity with compiz if you like
[08:48] <botxj> how do i get window movement as fluid as that, that comes in windows?
[08:48] <Hor|zon> you can have kwin in gnome even
[08:48] <dennisharrison_A> would anyone mind see'ing that the .deb file I made works for them? it won't overwrite your current gimp
[08:48] <Hor|zon> botxj, window movement fluid? what do you mean?
[08:49] <hondje> probably means without the ugly redrawing :-(
[08:49] <botxj> yeah! the ugly redrawing
[08:49] <Hor|zon> lol are you using metacity?
[08:49] <drumline> dennisharrison_A: that's probably a bit much to ask..   do you have a second box to test with?
[08:49] <hondje> hehe :) Only solution to that is to use something like compiz and all that eye candy
[08:49] <botxj> at some point ugly redrawing happens in windows when i have too much windows open and the GDI objects get used up
[08:49] <dennisharrison_A> drumline, yeah it works on both here,
[08:49] <drumline> dennisharrison_A: good sign.  :)
[08:49] <botxj> so i always thought having a 3D desktop would free me from that
[08:49] <dennisharrison_A> drumline, just wanted to see if it works for someone else too ;p
[08:50] <hondje> yeah, that fixes it :)
[08:50] <botxj> so that's why i'm pumped for XGL and Vista
[08:50] <dennisharrison_A> besides gimp2.3 has some niceities 2.2 is missing
[08:50] <Gumby> lmao @Vista
[08:50] <dennisharrison_A> and I spent like 2 hours getting it installed :)
[08:50] <Gumby> botxj: sure, if you want to run a $500 video card
[08:50] <botxj> i have a Radeon 9800
[08:50] <Gumby> botxj: xgl/compiz works with a $50 video card
[08:50] <Gamekiller> what file should i update to add a new dir to $PATH
[08:50] <Gumby> botxj: thats not going to be good enough for full effects in vista
[08:50] <botxj> with fglrx installed
[08:51] <Gamekiller> perm
[08:51] <Gamekiller> not like export
[08:51] <botxj> i know, but will it be enough for XGL?
[08:51] <Blissex> Mersault: oops, I must have imagined it. Just unpack the '.deb' with 'ar' and then unpack the '.tar.gz' inside it as an alternative.
[08:51] <Gumby> botxj: it'll be plenty
[08:51] <mkquist_> Gumby - uve tried xgl/compiz?
[08:51] <botxj> i'm going to buy a new system for vista by december
[08:51] <hondje> Should be fine, my fx5200 is just fine
[08:51] <Gumby> mkquist: yes
[08:51] <Gumby> mkquist: I am running it right now on a mobile radeon
[08:51] <mkquist_> Gumby - no probs?
[08:51] <Gumby> mkquist: none
[08:51] <Xorlev> ARRGH I hate Ubuntu's updates. The major packages always break something. This latest kernel upgrade managed to at first stop my wireless card from not working at all, then after reinstalling the ipw2200 firmware/kernel module and the ieee80211 package it was recognized, but won't associate. Anyone else run into this?
[08:52] <mkquist_> Gumby - u know requirements?
[08:52] <drumline> dennisharrison_A: I understand...   .deb files, as a general rule, should only be run from trusted sources.  Asking your friends who trust you is probably the best bet.
[08:52] <Mersault> Blissex: problem is, other packages I want to install will require that this package be configured. I've already run the config for this package though, which is why the script is failing. I just need dpkg to pretend that it successfully completed the configuration.
[08:52] <Gumby> mkquist: hardware? software?  they are available online
[08:52] <dennisharrison_A> im the only one not using osx or suse ;p
[08:52] <mkquist_> Gumby - ill check, hardware...
[08:53] <botxj> i have a 2560x1024 desktop, dual monitor, single frame buffer, where can i get nice wallpapers for a resolution like that?
[08:53] <admin_> say i have a named text, and its a backup for the file named work, and say work gets corrupted, how do i replace work with text via command line?
[08:53] <admin_> *a file named text
[08:53] <Gumby> admin_: the command you want to use is mv
[08:53] <admin_> ok
[08:53] <Gumby> admin_: or even cp
[08:54] <admin_> cp is copy?
[08:54] <Gumby> yes
[08:54] <admin_> i rather use mv
[08:54] <admin_> ok, thx
[08:54] <Gumby> mv = move.  windows exivalent to rename
[08:54] <BubblegumGirl> Hello, does anyone know if there is an easy way to configure Apache, like a gui or webpage?
[08:54] <Gumby> equivalent
[08:54] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: you can install webmin, it has apache modules
[08:54] <Bvlaar> Yo anyone here know wat config to open up,  for synergy
[08:55] <BubblegumGirl> I am a bit of a nebie Gumby, is that hard to do?
[08:55] <BubblegumGirl> newbie
[08:55] <Gumby> Bvlaar: man synergy should tell you.  google will also.  its probably something like synergy.conf
[08:55] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: not if you are patient :)
[08:55] <BubblegumGirl> Do I have to compile and stuff, before I dont know how to do that
[08:56] <Gumby> you might have to compile webmin.  not sure if there is an ubuntu package for it.
[08:56] <Hor|zon> wasn't webmin removed from the repositories?
[08:56] <Bvlaar> Grumby, there are at least 5 configs
[08:56] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7507.html
[08:56] <Blissex> Mersault: ahhh that requires a bit more gimmikry
[08:56] <DarkAudit> Gumby: Webmin packages for Debian and Ubuntu no longer exist
[08:56] <JosefK> !webmin
[08:56] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[08:57] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntu
[08:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:57] <tjb891> for some reason hdparm on my machine is turned off, should i turn it back on?
[08:57] <Blissex> Mersault: just rename the offending script in '/var/lib/dpkg' so something else.
[08:57] <BubblegumGirl> I shall check it out Gumby :)
[08:57] <Snow_Shelter> hello
[08:57] <hondje> tjb891: 'turned off'? hdparm should only run once
[08:57] <BubblegumGirl> Thank you gumby :)
[08:57] <Snow_Shelter> does anyone know how I can get wget to download all the links off a page including any images that may be linked off of any of the pages I've sent it to download
[08:58] <tjb891> it is a service which is deativated, is this ok I mean? (i did not deativate it)
[08:58] <Gumby> hdparm is a service?
[08:58] <Blissex> Mersault: something like 'cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; mv -i dpkg.postinst dpkg.postinst.off'
[08:58] <Hor|zon> hdparm shouldn't be activated should it?
[08:58] <Xorlev> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258845 - Can someone help me with my IPW2200 issue after the latest kernel upgrade?
[08:59] <wobster> Hi everyone. I recently installed ubuntu server edition and I'd like to have its source. But there's no specific server-source package. How can I manage to build modules for the running kernel without having the correct sources?
[08:59] <Mersault> Blissex: thanks! that worked like a charm!
[08:59] <Blissex> Snow_Shelter: the 'man wget' manual page has examples.
[09:00] <Gumby> Xorlev: can you connect without wep?
[09:00] <tjb891> if I turn off a service with bum  will it turn back on when it is neededif i use the program it is needed for?
[09:00] <Hor|zon> lol so the ops hide in here?
[09:00] <Snow_Shelter> Blissex: I've already done that, and as far as I can tell, wget is supposed to be fetching all images linked from the webpages, and converting them to local links
[09:00] <jman8888> !freedomtoaster
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freedomtoaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <Xorlev> Gumby: Give me a sec...
[09:00] <ladydoor> tjb891: you can turn it back on with bum
[09:00] <Blissex> Mersault: OK, remember to rename it back, just in case....
[09:00] <jman8888> Did anybody hear of the freedom toaster?
[09:00] <jman8888> Google it.
[09:00] <Blissex> Snow_Shelter: sure, so what's the problem?
[09:01] <Gumby> Hor|zon: thats quite common on freenode.  its recommended that the ops apear as regular users so it doesnt start authority figure type conflicts.
[09:01] <Snow_Shelter> Blissex: it doesn't download the images, and I'm left with broken links
[09:02] <Hor|zon> authority figure type conflicts? if they're gonna conflict then they shouldn't have power in the first place
[09:02] <Blissex> Snow_Shelter: perhaps the web site checks the referer for the images... There are 'wget' options to work around that.
[09:02] <Xorlev> Gumby: Nope.
[09:02] <xithilinx> hey could anyone help me with my problem?
[09:02] <Snow_Shelter> Blissex: hmm perhaps
[09:02] <Blissex> xithilinx: we are sorry, all our clairvoyant advisors are busy on other lines :-)
[09:02] <paganini> So, apparently I do not have a skype problem; I have a linux sound problem. Can someone please explain how to make my microphone be able to record things? I have a SoundBlaster Live! card in dapper.
[09:02] <mkquist_> lol blissex
[09:03] <Blissex> paganini: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecord
[09:03] <xithilinx> I've been trying to boot up ubuntu for awhile, but all I get is some error having to do with xserver not working
[09:03] <mkquist_> xithinlinx - think that means just ask ur question...hehe
[09:03] <Hor|zon> well i suppose though having them appear as normal users in this channel makes sense
[09:03] <xithilinx> and it just freezes pretty much
[09:03] <xithilinx> sudeo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doensn't seem to help because I have no idea what to do in there.
[09:03] <Blissex> xithilinx: can you switch to the console screen with CTRL-ALT-F1?
[09:03] <paganini> Blissex, thanks
[09:03] <xithilinx> sudo*
[09:03] <xithilinx> yes I can
[09:04] <paganini> However
[09:04] <xithilinx> but not sure as to what to do next
[09:04] <Una^> Guys, how do I upgrade to edgy... I have changed sources.list but it is showing no updates available with dist-upgrade?
[09:04] <infidel> j ##c
[09:04] <xithilinx> since i'm new to the linux distro
[09:04] <Blissex> xithilinx: what's the problem with the reconfigure?
[09:04] <Gumby> Xorlev: can you stop the network, remove the ipw2200 module and any associated modules, sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog, open another console, sudo modprobe ipw2200, then paste what appeared in the "tail" console after you modprobed the module
[09:04] <infidel> j #c
[09:04] <paganini> Messing with the capture controls is not the answer
[09:04] <Flannel> Una^: you update first?
[09:04] <Snow_Shelter> Blissex: according to the wget man page, this command "wget -r -k -l0 -p -A.jpg http://www.pc-wallpapers.co.uk/" should retrieve all the images on the site. However, it just retrieves the HTML files, and I'm left with no images
[09:04] <voraistos> can someone (with an ATI 9500/600 or equiv) with working 3D give me his/her xorg.conf please ?
[09:04] <Blissex> xithilinx: normally you just answer the questions...
[09:04] <Gumby> Una^: did you do apt-get update ?
[09:04] <Una^> Flannel, yep have done
[09:04] <xithilinx> well with it freezing at the start up screen everytime and saying something is wrong with the xserver
[09:05] <Flannel> Una^: besides, update manager still works. you can use that.
[09:05] <xithilinx> I suppose there would be something wrong with it because I've looked it up and that's as far as I could get on where to go
[09:05] <xithilinx> so you could say I'm lost
[09:05] <Lil_Shank> ok i installed sane, now how do i use my scanner?
[09:05] <Blissex> Snow_Shelter: without going into details, are you aware that there are nice GUI interfaces to 'wget'? Try to get one...
[09:05] <wolfeySI> hello would anyone know how to set ubuntu X to allow root applications to appear on non-root X desktop
[09:05] <paganini> I do not know what is wrong here, but it definitely does not involv moving the mixer controlls around.
[09:06] <Gumby> wolfeySI: just run the application with sudo
[09:06] <Blissex> xithilinx: when does it freeze? when you run 'dpkg-reconfigure'?
[09:06] <hondje> wolfeySI: gksudo <application>, unless you're talking about root windows
[09:06] <xithilinx> no
[09:06] <xithilinx> when I boot it up
[09:06] <xithilinx> upon the loading screen
[09:06] <xithilinx> live cd - to install cd doesn't matter
[09:06] <stamina|xr7> hey all, good afternoon :)
[09:06] <wolfeySI> sudo sometimes works sometimes doesnt have permission to open window
[09:06] <wolfeySI> so gksudo ?
[09:06] <xithilinx> with the bar
[09:06] <Blissex> xithilinx: and what is the problem with 'dpkg-reconfigure'? Does it work?
[09:06] <xithilinx> yes it does
[09:06] <Flannel> Una^: your mirror might not have edgy repos, I don't know.  Try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <Xorlev> Gumby: Just the normal stuff ipw2200 throws out when it's loaded.
[09:06] <Una^> Flannel, same thing with update manager, lot of packages kept back but they are mainly media stuff.. nothing else to update
[09:06] <xithilinx> just something led me to believe that has something linked to what my problem is
[09:07] <Una^> Flannel, hmm ok thanks ill try in there
[09:07] <xithilinx> so I used that and it didn't seem to help much since I didn't know what to do inside of it
[09:07] <Blissex> xithilinx: and after 'dpkg-reconfigure' does X work?
[09:07] <voraistos> ompaul would you have by anychance an ATI graphic card ?
[09:07] <ompaul> voraistos, sorry I am really buys
[09:07] <ompaul> busy
[09:07] <xithilinx> not sure what you mean
[09:07] <ompaul> !ati > voraistos
[09:07] <pilsun> installing ubuntu on a system with no CD/Disk drive, I switched the harddrive out into a system with CD drive, installed, worked fine, but when replacing the HD to its orig system X won't start
[09:07] <_trine> ompaul this channel has got the biggest ban list I have ever seen
[09:08] <xithilinx> I type in the command plus the xserver xorg an it just goes into that screen ect. no problems with that
[09:08] <xithilinx> now if that doesn't have anything to do with my problem than let's just forget I said that
[09:08] <voraistos> ompaul; cheers mate, each  time i need something ure the only one really here :) (but always busy :(   )
[09:08] <pilsun> the vid card is different, is there a way to get ubuntu to auto-detect the new card?
[09:08] <xithilinx> sicne I'm new and I'm just wondering why I can't get past it freezing all the time
[09:09] <Flannel> pilsun: probably because your X configuration is set up for the old one.  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   You can also install over the network,etc directly on that computer
[09:09] <lucaz> does anyone know a good audio cd burner for console?
[09:09] <pilsun> Flannel, thanks
[09:09] <Gumby> Xorlev: I do know that other distros have had issues with ipw and new kernels but usually they dont have issues working without wep
[09:09] <xithilinx> so is there a problem with it figuring out what my video card is or something?
[09:09] <Blissex> xithilinx: if the automatic X config does not work, 'dpkg-reconfigure' will create a new config manually, and then you restart X.
[09:10] <Blissex> xithilinx: but note that if you do this on the liveCD, you have to restart X manually.
[09:10] <Ramunas> what can I use to make .torrent files?
[09:10] <xithilinx> and how would I restart x?
[09:10] <Ramunas> I'm using Opera as my client
[09:10] <Lil_Shank> how do i scan with sane
[09:10] <Xorlev> Gumby: It worked perfectly fine before the upgrade from 2.6.15-26.46 to 2.6.15-26.47
[09:10] <ladydoor> xithilinx: ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:10] <pilsun> ah, as I try to reconfigure it says it must be run as root, interestingly I never set the root password during installation
[09:10] <hondje> could always edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand if dpkg won't play nice
[09:10] <pilsun> I'm logged in as my user account just fine, but the root pw is not the same
[09:10] <Cheef-Daniel> hi
[09:11] <hondje> pilsun: use sudo <command> to do things as root
[09:11] <xithilinx> and that would fix my problem with the whole xserver crash report I got
[09:11] <pilsun> hondje, thanks
[09:11] <Flannel> !tell pilsun about root
[09:11] <Cheef-Daniel> how does the orginal /boot/grub/menu.lst looks like?
[09:11] <wolfeySI> ok gksudo aint bad;)
[09:11] <ompaul> voraistos, okay my one comment on ati is this, Follow the page of instructions slowly print it out and put a line through each step - it is worth it
[09:11] <Cheef-Daniel> I cant boot anymore
[09:11] <sirius> anyone here have problems with the radeon driver in X.org and laptops, like it hangs the system every once in a while ?
[09:11] <xithilinx> *?
[09:11] <Xorlev> Gumby: Last night...I see in the topic is says "6.06 kernel security update issue is fixed" but when I get the new package lists from the repos, I don't see another kernel update
[09:12] <nysosym> hi all
[09:12] <xithilinx> ok well.. I'll be right back than
[09:12] <Gumby> Xorlev: maybe you updated before it was posted in the topic or before you noticed it
[09:12] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i identify my notebook? i don't knwo it's type.. the manufacturer etc...
[09:12] <MetaMorfoziS> ?!
[09:12] <Gumby> OMG ompaul, that is friggin annoying
[09:13] <ladydoor> Gumby: what is ompaul doing that's doing all that?
[09:13] <ladydoor> Gumby: it *is* annoying
[09:13] <ompaul> Gumby, you prevent the world from having exploitable routers and I won't have to ban victims to keep the channel a little usable we used to have over a hundred victims
[09:13] <THX-1138> MetaMorfoziS,  - lspci --help
[09:13] <Gumby> ladydoor: settings bans on people for one reason or another.  But seems to be getting chanserv to op him each time.
[09:14] <Gumby> ompaul: get chanserv to op you once then set all the bans.
[09:14] <Gumby> ompaul: you dont need to op/deop each time you ban
[09:14] <ompaul> Gumby, one to go :-) I forgot
[09:14] <Caplain_> whats a good network speed test tool?
[09:14] <nysosym> is this only my problem, or is firefox 2.0 in edgy eft really slow?
[09:14] <ladydoor> Gumby: ah. well, it's really annoying
[09:14] <ompaul> laste one
[09:14] <Gumby> ladydoor: the bans arent preventable, the ops/deops are :)
[09:14] <stamina|xr7> Caplain_|-- i would try a web based one
[09:14] <ladydoor> Gumby: fair enough :-)
[09:14] <stamina|xr7> Caplain_|-- try dslreports.com
[09:14] <voraistos> ompaul: i am not that much noob anymore. all i wanted to have is someones xorg. conf. I find ubuntu really unstable: on the same computer, 2 different install (done the same way) give me a good or bad system. i have trouble with graphics for some reason, i think one or 2 lines in my xorg.conf fglrx related might help.
[09:15] <hondje> dslreports.com hehehehe
[09:15] <xvxvx> hi, do anyone got the icon path(s) for the icons in the logout dialog (accessed by clicking the door top right screen)? ...they are bit ugly, need to pimp them
[09:15] <stamina|xr7> :)
[09:15] <Gumby> voraistos: one second, I will post one for you
[09:15] <Flannel> nysosym: #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <Caplain_> stamina|xr7: well i wanna test the speed between two machines on my lan
[09:15] <voraistos> Gumby: that d be nice ;)
[09:15] <stamina|xr7> ahh :)
[09:15] <Caplain_> clear up bottlenecks
[09:16] <ompaul> voraistos, how about doing without the closed source accelleration and useing  only ati for a little bit and see if it is stable (it is a pain but it is worth thinking about) also stay away from xgl if your having card issues
[09:16] <Xorlev> Gumby: I'm not sure...but whatever changed in that update broke it, and I can't forceversion it back :\
[09:16] <ompaul> Gumby, point
[09:16] <Gumby> voraistos: http://ultimate.kicks-ass.net/files/xorg.conf
[09:16] <voraistos> ompaul: all i do is using nice ubunu repos. nothing more :)
[09:16] <sirius> what would cause a total system freeze of a computer, like the laptop completely freezes. No input, hitting the power button is the only option?
[09:17] <voraistos> Gumby: cheers
[09:17] <ompaul> voraistos, well all I am saying is stay away from 3d and use the basic ati card in the xorg
[09:17] <foo> Am I able to write the ISO I make with mkisofs and then do something like .. dd if=/some/file.iso of=/dev/hda ?
[09:17] <voraistos> ompaul: hmmm... so that means i cant play UT? no way !
[09:17] <stamina|xr7> Caplain_|-- theres several tcp speed test programs in the repos
[09:17] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > hello people
[09:18] <Hor|zon> sirius, if you can't even ctrl+alt+f1 then yeah, a hard reset is the only option...is there hard drive activity?
[09:18] <xvxvx> hello
[09:18] <stamina|xr7> Caplain_|-- try iprelay
[09:18] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > im trying to get distcc running between a gentoo and ubuntu system
[09:18] <voraistos> ompaul: but with 3D ubuntu can work very nicely. however things like alacarte never worked for me ?
[09:18] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > my end looks fine can someone help me figure out why the other end wont work ?
[09:18] <Caplain_> ok
[09:18] <sirius> Hor|zon - nope nothing, it just freezes. COmplete freeze. I think its the X.org "ATI" driver
[09:19] <Xorlev> >_<
[09:19] <Flannel> FaeLLe[gentoo] : configuration should be the same
[09:19] <Hor|zon> the hard drive activity light is off? then yeah, you need to hard reset
[09:19] <Caplain_> stamina|xr7: what do you recooment?
[09:19] <Caplain_> i cant spell today
[09:19] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > Flannel: would gcc versions matter ?
[09:19] <Hor|zon> and then maybe look at your logs
[09:19] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > Flannel: cause his is older gcc version
[09:19] <sirius> Hor|zon - yeah but this happens like every couple of hours and its annoying. I dont know how to fix it :(
[09:20] <stamina|xr7> Caplain_:: only one i have used is iprelay, and that was a while ago
[09:20] <Flannel> FaeLLe[gentoo] : I imagine they might.  but, I'm not familiar with distcc at all.
[09:20] <sirius> i cant even use the linux partition on my laptop without wondering if its going to freeze in the next 3 minutes
[09:20] <voraistos> Gumby: i see you have all the "wacom" dapper install rubish. u can remove it safely
[09:20] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > Flannel: and for some reason once he starts distccd several process start up ..... he says its cause he has multiple cpus :
[09:20] <BubblegumGirl> Hi, I just installed webmin, how do I find out the password?
[09:20] <Gumby> voraistos: yeah, I just provided a default xorg.conf mostly
[09:20] <Hor|zon> checked your kernel logs?
[09:20] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: its probably your root password
[09:20] <BubblegumGirl> okay I will try that :)
[09:21] <BubblegumGirl> thanks guby (again)
[09:21] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > so no one here use distccd on ubuntu ?
[09:21] <thanksjack> hey guys
[09:21] <viator> how could i find what i/o ports a cdrom uses?
[09:21] <egor> Hey, I need to set myself as the owner of every file in a certain directory. How would I do that?
[09:21] <viator> on a box with no os
[09:21] <Caplain_> thanks
[09:21] <viator> for use in smart boot manager
[09:21] <Flannel> BubblegumGirl: believe webmin uses it's own password
[09:22] <Hor|zon> egor, chown -R username:username /directory/here
[09:22] <tjb891> I have postfix as a service listed in bum but according to synaptic it is not installed, what is wrong?
[09:22] <Hor|zon> or is it lower-case r? I forget
[09:22] <egor> Thanks.
[09:22] <BubblegumGirl> It says my host is blocked
[09:22] <thanksjack> I'm getting a "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts" error on my attempt to mount from fstab, am I missing a package?
[09:22] <BubblegumGirl> for too many authentications
[09:23] <xithilinx> well I'm back
[09:23] <thanksjack> i have the users option enabled in the fstab
[09:23] <xithilinx> and dpkg-reconfigure did nothing
[09:23] <brian98> opmaul: Were they all using proxies? sorry to ask, just back and seen all the kicks and the mention of open routers, how did you know?
[09:24] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: you can either wait or restart webmin.  I think the setup file for webmin is /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf (not 100% sure on that one though).  It will show which user webmin allows
 I was having the same problem with the ATI card, are you still with us?
[09:24] <BubblegumGirl> OKay
[09:24] <BubblegumGirl> let me look :)
[09:24] <xithilinx> need help with ubuntu freezing at start up of installation + the live cd
[09:24] <Hor|zon> brian98, is it the problem where you have to add that xorg option?
[09:25] <stamina|xr7> is there a way to connect to an itunes share from ubuntu?
 I just seen a user called sirius mention he was having ATI probs and I was too.. It was similar to his, x hanging a lot etc...
[09:26] <brian98> I was just going to try and help him
[09:26] <brian98> hor|zon: The best solution to ATI problems is to get an nvidia card ;) lol
[09:26] <Hor|zon> heh seems like he's gone
[09:26] <Hor|zon> LOL yeah
[09:27] <Hor|zon> that's what I do
[09:27] <Hor|zon> but the ati freezing thing is easy..just add a line to your xorg.conf...I just remembered
[09:27] <Hor|zon> =_=
[09:27] <Almindor> hello
[09:27] <Almindor> my gedit doesn't have any highlighters anymore.. what did I do? :D
[09:28] <Gumby> stamina|xr7: have a look at gtkpod
[09:28] <Almindor> or better. how do I get them back :D
[09:28] <Flannel> BubblegumGirl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[09:28] <brian98> Hor|zon: the driver seems much better for Nvidia though, even on a less powerful card when a 3d screensaver kicks in I noticed with an ati card the pc fan would go crazy, with nvidia nothing
[09:28] <stamina|xr7> Gumby:: thanks ill do that
[09:28] <brian98> and I haven't had one X freeze
[09:28] <Xal> Can ext3 partitions be safely resized?
[09:28] <lupine_85> yes
[09:28] <Xal> I've heard that one must have LVM enabled or something
[09:28] <BubblegumGirl> I went to where is said the thing to change the password was and it isn;t there
[09:28] <Hor|zon> brian98, even if the drivers are better you won't get more than half the performance you'd get in windows
[09:29] <Vegeta^> When I want to print something to a file, it only gives me the option to print to PS-format, after that I can print PS to PDF, I want to print directly to PDF, how do I do that?
[09:29] <lupine_85> Xal: no. Justremove the journal, use ext2resize (IIRC), then replace the journal
[09:29] <Hor|zon> it really sucks
[09:29] <thanksjack> I'm getting a "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts" error on my attempt to mount from fstab, am I missing a package? sudoing the command works
[09:29] <brian98> Really, thats the pits
[09:29] <Mersault> quit
[09:29] <lupine_85> thanksjack: "sudo chmod 4755 smbmnt" should fix it
[09:30] <Hor|zon> Vegeta^, what you wnat is pdf printing...there should be a howto in the ubuntu forums, just search
[09:30] <Hor|zon> want*
[09:30] <thanksjack> what permissions is 4755?
[09:30] <brian98> Gumby: did you get anywhere with tovid?
[09:30] <stamina|xr7> Gumby:: now is this just to manage an ipod, or can it also be used to connect to the streamin shares
[09:30] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: follow Hor|zon's URL  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebminWithoutARootAccount  it explains how there
[09:30] <Xal> lupine_85, so I'm pretty much converting to ext2, resizing, and then reconverting to ext3?
[09:30] <lupine_85> Xal: yes
[09:30] <Gumby> stamina|xr7: ah, streaming shares I have no idea.
[09:30] <Hor|zon> lol my url?
[09:30] <BubblegumGirl> I am trying to
[09:31] <stamina|xr7> Gumby:: haha yeah it seems like it may be proprietary
[09:31] <Xal> Will Linux recognize the ext2 partition correctly, or do I need to make changes in fstab?
[09:31] <stamina|xr7> Gumby:: and likely closed source
[09:31] <Gumby> brian98: I did and I didnt.  lol.  got it installed, but I needed a different version of mplayer I think.  I didnt have time to look into it further
[09:31] <lupine_85> Xal: since it's all going to be unmounted which you do it, the fstab is irrelevent
[09:31] <lupine_85> erm, when you do it...
[09:32] <sirius> Hor|zon - how do you fix the ATI card freezing?
[09:32] <Xal> So this needs to be done from a live CD or something like that?
[09:32] <sirius> ive been told its DynamicClocks "true"
[09:32] <sirius> but i have yet to test this theory
[09:32] <lupine_85> Xal: if the partition in question is your / then yes
[09:32] <tjb891> bum lists postfix as a service but synaptic says its not installed, whats wrong?
[09:32] <brian98> ok, it's well worth it, I went to sleep there and when I got up it had converted 2 xvid avi's and burned them to a perfectly readable DVD.. Can't wait to watch the movie later!
[09:32] <Xal> alright, thanks
[09:32] <Xal> I'll try this out.
[09:33] <BubblegumGirl> Thank you gumby *kiss* - from dumb girl playing with ubuntu
[09:33] <Gumby> yowzas!!!
[09:33] <Gumby> first time Ive been cyber kissed in a linux IRC channel
[09:33] <stamina|xr7> brian98:: hmm how did you get a movie in 2 avi's? legally i suppose ;)
[09:34] <BubblegumGirl> Well first time I have kissed anyone in a linux channel :)
[09:34] <brian98> stamina|rx7 is there any other way
[09:34] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: and dont consider yourself dumb, just inexperianced
[09:34] <Hor|zon> sirius, lemme find it, hold on
[09:34] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: we all started somewhere
[09:34] <voraistos> Gumby: finally the problem was not what i thought. the only differences in our xorg.conf were the res supported by my monitor. seems that my monitor doesnt sopprt resolutions lower than 1440x900 ?! anyway. thx for your help :)
[09:34] <brian98> stamina|rx7 Our local video shop sends them out on usb memory sticks now ;)
[09:34] <stamina|xr7> brian98:: of course not unless you DL the full 4.36 gb image
[09:34] <Gumby> voraistos: ah, good to hear its fixed
[09:35] <Gumby> BubblegumGirl: I am just wondering why your username is "Paul"  lol
[09:35] <brian98> but the quality of divx (xvid) is bloody superb now!
[09:35] <voraistos> I can play ET now :)
[09:35] <stamina|xr7> BubblegumGirl:: there is kissing in linux irc channels sometimes, but it is usually after someone successfully configures x after 15 hours
[09:35] <DKK> hmm.. im getting a Laptop with a Merom in it, so which Ubunto should i use, 64bit or Normal ?
[09:35] <stamina|xr7> brian98:: wow thats sweet
[09:36] <stamina|xr7> DKK:: is the memron a 64 bit chip, i dont recall
[09:36] <brian98> What do most people use for backing up and writing DVD's with Ubuntu?
[09:36] <Vegeta^> Hor|zon: I do have pdf-printing, but the problem is, that it only works for PS- file formats, so I have to print to PS then to PDF...
[09:36] <DKK> hmm, it has the em64 set ?
[09:37] <Gumby> brian98: did you have to use a different version of mplayer to get tovid to work?
[09:37] <stamina|xr7> brian98:: dvd::rip
[09:37] <brian98> Gumby: just the latest I think? Why did it not work?
[09:37] <stamina|xr7> DKK:: i must say im really not sure, its such a nw tech....soemone here should know though
[09:37] <brian98> stamina|rx7: Will it do copy protection because when I purchase new stuff I like to back it up (legit)
[09:38] <DKK> okay... it would be nice to know though
[09:38] <Tommck> hello all...
[09:38] <Tommck> I have a major issue...
[09:38] <brian98> hello
[09:38] <stamina|xr7> brian98:: to be honest im not sure.....ive only ripped already ripped movies from my friends, for my own copy
[09:38] <Tommck> I just accidentally did "tom foo" instead of "tom,foo" on the "admin" line in /etc/group....
[09:38] <Tommck> any way to get that back without reinstalling?
[09:38] <Tommck> live CD and edit the file?
[09:39] <stamina|xr7> Tommck:: that may work, try that and if not stop back
[09:39] <Gumby> brian98: well, I forgot what my errors were and I am not @ that PC right now.  I'll have to wait to test it
[09:39] <redguy> Tommck: well, these are the risks of editing passwd and group by han ;-)
[09:39] <Tommck> will do
[09:39] <redguy> hand
[09:39] <Gumby> brian98: I could have been that I was trying to recode divx to dvd
[09:39] <THX-1138> !password
[09:39] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[09:39] <Gumby> I/it
[09:39] <redguy> Tommck: you might try to boot in the recovery mode as well
[09:39] <fir3> hi
[09:40] <Flannel> Tommck: no need for lvieCD, yeah, use recovery mode
[09:40] <brian98> Gumb: That's what I just did
[09:40] <brian98> and it worked perfectly
[09:40] <brian98> hrm
[09:40] <Gumby> brian98: hrm, ok. heh
[09:40] <fir3> where can i get a list of patches that are in the ubuntu kernel?
[09:40] <stamina|xr7> grr recovery mode works for everypone but me :(
[09:40] <Gumby> lets see if I can ssh and find out
[09:40] <Flannel> stamina|xr7: did you set a root password?
[09:40] <Flannel> !tell fir3 about kernel
[09:40] <Tommck> Flannel - the same install CD?
[09:40] <redguy> fir3: hmm, by inspecting the kernel source package?
[09:40] <Flannel> Tommck: no, no install CD, reboot and select recovery mode from the grub menu
[09:40] <stamina|xr7> Flannel:: i did, i went through alot of crap before to get it working to no avail
[09:40] <Gumby> nm, that wont work.  oh well, I'll figure it out later
[09:41] <stamina|xr7> really maes no sense :(
[09:41] <Tommck> Flannel - oh..
[09:41] <Flannel> stamina|xr7: root passwords break recovery consoles, I believe
[09:41] <fir3> redguy: the patches are seperately included?
[09:41] <lupine_85> Flannel: no they don't :)
[09:41] <lupine_85> fir3: no :(
[09:41] <stamina|xr7> im not too worried about it, i dont feel like fooling with it
[09:41] <fir3> hum
[09:42] <redguy> fir3: the patches should be in the source package
[09:42] <lupine_85> redguy: they've already been applied... so they're "in" it, but finding them would be a PITA#
[09:42] <stamina|xr7> ok all, im out have a good day
[09:42] <fir3> yeah but i need the patch for some other kernel
[09:42] <stamina|xr7> brian98:: enjoy the flick
[09:42] <Flannel> fir3: there's a package you can download that is all the patches from vanilla to ubuntu kernel, should be mentioned on the page ubotu sent you
[09:42] <Tommck> Flannel - thanks... think that worked
[09:42] <redguy> lupine_85: oh, didn't know that
[09:42] <brian98> stamina|rx7: Will do!
[09:43] <redguy> lupine_85: so the kernel .orig.tar.gz is not the vanilla linux kernel from kernel.org?
[09:43] <Tommck> as an aside, why doesn't sudo say something when you're not allowed to run it?
[09:43] <fir3> Flannel: ok tnx
[09:43] <sirius> anyone know when openoffice 2.0.3 will be updated to dapper?
[09:43] <GigaClon> how do i install fonts
[09:43] <Flannel> sirius: never
[09:43] <redguy> Flannel: /me wants that ubotu factoid as well
[09:43] <sirius> Flannel - :(
[09:43] <Flannel> !tell redguy about kernel
[09:44] <sirius> I need 2.0.3 as 2.0.2 has problems with powerpoint slides
[09:44] <THX-1138> How could you cat grep the original kernel source against the ubuntu source?
[09:44] <lupine_85> you'd use diff, or something, surely
[09:44] <THX-1138> ahaller, "diff" nice
[09:44] <Flannel> sirius: bugfixes and security things get patched, so the fix might be put in
[09:44] <THX-1138> ah ,
[09:45] <Jaak_> I need to recode a windows reg file.... But Ubu doesn't reconize the command recode, now what?
[09:45] <Piero> I have a strange problem. I know root password, but with an user I type "su" command, and then root password, shell says me always that password is wrong
[09:45] <Piero> can I ask you any suggest please?
[09:45] <Gumby> Piero: sudo su
[09:46] <Gumby> Piero: then enter your users password
[09:46] <ompaul> Gumby, na we say >> sudo -i << and only after we do this
[09:46] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[09:46] <Flannel> Gumby: that's not the same.
[09:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:46] <Piero> no I don't use sudo
[09:46] <Gumby> Flannel: but then he can change roots password :)
[09:46] <sean0hh> need help i installed dual boot xp and ubuntu, reboot,get grub,then get a promp,sign in as user and dont get to desktop: any solutions?
[09:46] <ompaul> Piero, you would have no problems if you did
[09:47] <Piero> no I've removed sudo from security reason on my server
[09:47] <Flannel> sean0hh: what prompt do you get?
[09:47] <sean0hh> not root but
[09:47] <sean0hh> i gotta login as user
[09:47] <Gumby> lol @ "for security reasons"
[09:47] <redguy> Piero: security reason?
[09:47] <Flannel> sean0hh: just a text prompt?
[09:47] <THX-1138> sean0hh - Did you get a message about the display driver being incorectly configured?
[09:47] <ompaul> Piero, read that URL your thinking is flawed
[09:47] <sean0hh> yes
[09:47] <sean0hh> no no message like that
[09:47] <Gumby> the only security issue with using sudo is the box administrator
[09:48] <thanksjack> how do i change my host name?
[09:48] <Gumby> !hostname
[09:48] <Xenguy> thanksjack: hostname
[09:48] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[09:48] <redguy> this is where most securiti issues originate...
[09:48] <THX-1138> sean0hh, what number is your terminal? and what happens if you type "startx"?
[09:48] <lupine_85> that, and the obvious increased vulnerability of a password that's used every fifteen minutes ;)
[09:48] <ompaul> Gumby, so set up two users one called ceaser and one for yourself :) ohh roots name has changed
[09:48] <sean0hh> i type startx
[09:48] <sean0hh> nadda happens
[09:48] <sean0hh> not loaded?
[09:48] <sean0hh> i just installed so
[09:48] <sean0hh> i got a pic express vcard so
[09:48] <Flannel> sean0hh: which ubuntu CD did you install from?
[09:49] <Cheef-Daniel> hi, could somebody please help me to recover data from a bad disk?
[09:49] <sean0hh> ummmmm
[09:49] <thanksjack> and cmd to reset dhcp?
[09:49] <sean0hh> live cd
[09:49] <sean0hh> lemme look
[09:49] <THX-1138> sean0hh - maybe not enough informationbut, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:49] <Neo8750> thanksjack: dhclient eth0
[09:49] <sean0hh> tried that command
[09:49] <thanksjack> thanks
[09:49] <Neo8750> oh yeah thats sudo
[09:49] <Gumby> ompaul: huh?  I have a root pass set, I just created a user, roots pass is the same
[09:49] <redguy> Gumby: wrong
[09:49] <THX-1138> sean0hh - What happened?
[09:50] <Gumby> redguy: I just did it.  how can you tell me its wrong
[09:50] <sean0hh> says no such file
[09:50] <Flannel> Gumby: right, root password is the same regardless, which is why it's troublesome if you have multiple people using it. harder to change, more people know it, etc
[09:50] <sean0hh> its ununtu server6
[09:50] <Jaak_> how do i recode a reg file?
[09:50] <sean0hh> thats one i dloaded
[09:50] <Flannel> sean0hh: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <Gumby> Flannel: why would people have roots password?
[09:50] <Jaak_> to ascii
[09:50] <Flannel> sean0hh: heh.  yeah, that's why.
[09:50] <sean0hh> lol
[09:50] <Flannel> sean0hh: you don't have a GUI yet
[09:50] <Gumby> Flannel: you dont have to give a root password to anyone
[09:50] <THX-1138> ah - no desktop installed sean?
[09:50] <Flannel> Gumby: if we weren't using sudo, we need to give out the root password if we wanted other people to be able to install stuff, etc.
[09:51] <Gumby> Flannel: where/when did I say anything about sudo and not using it?
[09:51] <sean0hh> ok so above command should work?
[09:51] <Flannel> sean0hh: the apt-get one? it will
[09:51] <sean0hh> thanx
[09:51] <sean0hh> brb
[09:51] <Flannel> sean0hh: afterwards, you'll want to switch your kernel to a non-server one too.
[09:51] <redguy> Gumby: I'm saying you did wrong ;-)
[09:51] <Gumby> redguy: why though?
[09:52] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:52] <THX-1138> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop - if you used the server install cd yes. approx. 100+ mega bytes
[09:52] <ompaul> debates in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:52] <Flannel> ompaul: just about to mention that ;)
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[09:52] <ompaul> Flannel, well you are so lazy waiting on me ;-)
[09:52] <gubluntu> looks like a ban to me
[09:52] <gubluntu> poof
[09:52] <Gumby> I dont even know what is being debated.  lol.  I am being blasted for not using sudo yet I never said anything about not using sudo.  I just gave a solution to a question asked by a user
[09:52] <Neo8750> =)
[09:52] <brian98> looks like a scam too
[09:52] <THX-1138> ban!
[09:53] <THX-1138> ubuntu-ebay - rofl
[09:53] <pilsun> is it a common problem having firefox fail to install new plugins after a fresh installation? (e.g. flash or java)
[09:53] <Neo8750> a blueray drive itself is probly 500+
[09:53] <ompaul> !flash > pilsun
[09:53] <ompaul> !java > pilsun
[09:53] <xvxvx> whats the icon paths for the icons on the gnome logout dialog, anyone?
[09:53] <usr13> Is there an interactive gui like menu for adding repos?
[09:54] <redguy> usr13: synaptic can do it AFAIR
[09:54] <THX-1138> usr13 - Yess, it is part of synaptic
[09:54] <Flannel> usr13: Software Properties
[09:54] <Rondom> usr13: yes, you find it using synaptic or update-manager
[09:54] <Gumby> xvxvx: /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/apps/gnome-logout.png
[09:54] <xvxvx> Gumby, ah thanks
[09:54] <Gumby> xvxvx: that was one of the results of sudo updatedb && locate logout |grep png
[09:54] <cyberworks> hi there
[09:54] <Gumby> xvxvx: it may depend on your screen resoultion, I am not sure
[09:54] <cyberworks> what happened with automatix?
[09:54] <chuckyp> Wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzup
[09:54] <chuckyp> Knot 3 hit the repos yet?
[09:55] <Flannel> cyberworks: it breaks things, what else do you want to know?
[09:55] <xvxvx> Gumby, i see
[09:55] <cyberworks> if its shutdown?
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> cyberworks: People finding it dosent work...?
[09:55] <chuckyp> What doesn't work?
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> cyberworks: It messes up LOTS of systems every day
[09:55] <usr13> RedGhost`away: AFAIR ?
[09:55] <Flannel> cyberworks: doesn't look like it's shutdown.  we wouldn't mind if it were
[09:56] <chuckyp> Jack_Sparrow: what are you talking about?
[09:56] <THX-1138> Good afternoon  Jack_Sparrow.
[09:56] <redguy> usr13: as far as I remember
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi guys... Automatix...
[09:56] <Hor|zon> sirius, you still around?
[09:56] <cyberworks> we tested it a few weeks ago here at the linux labs
[09:56] <chuckyp> ahh oh yeah automatix does bork stuff
[09:56] <cyberworks> and all was well then
[09:56] <Jaak_> how do i get the command recode to work?
[09:56] <Flannel> !worksforme
[09:56] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:56] <chuckyp> cyberworks: it borked my system
[09:56] <minerale> Hi, I have a windows installation on my first hard drive, after some recent updates the item has gone and grub does not show it anymore? can anyone help ?
[09:56] <Neo8750> so does that mean easyubuntu is going to come back??
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> cyberworks: You dont see the people in here every day with trashed systems
[09:57] <zapcojake> anybody get gnome 2.16 working in Dapper?
[09:57] <Flannel> Neo8750: easyubuntu has never gone away?
[09:57] <Jaak_> nevermind
[09:57] <chuckyp> minerale: The menu file for grub is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:57] <THX-1138> cyberworks - assuming you trust the automatix repositories ...
[09:57] <Neo8750> Flannel: people started useing automatix instead
[09:57] <Hor|zon> I'm running 2.15...haven't tried 2.16
[09:57] <cyberworks> to be honest, the most people that come here are in for some support...
[09:57] <Flannel> Neo8750: easyubuntu came about after automatix, but this is offtic
[09:57] <Gumby> Jaak_: are you expecting a windows command to be the same in linux?
[09:57] <usr13> I'm looking for a rep that has audacity
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Easyubuntu has been improved, but we still prefer people learn how to do things themselves
[09:57] <hiffy> I've installed glibc-doc, which says will give me the libc reference man pages in info; however, info printf isn't giving me the C printf
[09:57] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > what is special in edubuntu ?
[09:57] <chuckyp> !info audacity
[09:57] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[09:57] <hiffy> what gibes?
[09:57] <THX-1138> usr13 - sourceforge
[09:58] <hiffy> *gives
[09:58] <chuckyp> usr13: in unerverse
[09:58] <Neo8750> Flannel: how is it offtopic we are talking about a program for ubuntu and which one is newer and better to use
[09:58] <chuckyp> usr13: s/uneverse/universe
[09:58] <cyberworks> but the question was, is it taken offline?
[09:58] <Flannel> FaeLLe[gentoo] : it's client (student)/server (teacher) oriented, so you can show same thing on each screen, etc
[09:58] <zapcojake> is there a dedicated gnome channel?
[09:58] <Flannel> Neo8750: because this is a support channel, not general discussion
[09:58] <chuckyp> zapcojake: #gnome
[09:58] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > Flannel: ah ok
[09:58] <zapcojake> thanks
[09:59] <Flannel> FaeLLe[gentoo] : if you want the educational programs and stuff, you can get them from the repository separately, with another flavor of ubuntu
[09:59] <thanksjack> I tried sudo chmod 4755 smbmnt and it said "chmod: cannot access `smbmnt': No such file or directory"
[09:59] <cyberworks> hmm, mabye i am barking up the wrong tree here :)
[09:59] <Vegeta^> Is it possible that the ~/.bashrc could be "launched" by other apps than the terminal?
[09:59] <Flannel> cyberworks: it hasnt been taken offline, I'm looking at their website right now.
[09:59] <Flannel> cyberworks: thanks for getting my hopes up ;)
[10:00] <usr13> Im actually asking for a friend, who has Kubuntu and he says that audacity is not listed in symantic package manager.
[10:00] <chuckyp> I need a little help myself.  For some reason my windows partition which is auto mounted by ubuntu is showing up as two icons on the desktop hda1 and hda1(2) <--- A direct copy of the first link.  Any ideas on how to fix it?
[10:00] <thanksjack> usr13, his sources?
[10:00] <Flannel> usr13: he needs universe
[10:00] <usr13> I was thinking he might need to add repos.
[10:00] <chuckyp> usr13: he needs to enable universe repo
[10:00] <chuckyp> System > Administration > Software Sources
[10:01] <Flannel> !universe
[10:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:01] <Flannel> there's a walkthrough
[10:01] <thanksjack> use the gui, itps easier
[10:01] <chuckyp> Any one else here dual booting with windows?
[10:01] <thanksjack> me
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[10:01] <sklav> yes
[10:02] <chuckyp> Well when my system auto mounts my windows partition its showing two hda1 icons on the desktop one being a copy of the other
[10:02] <THX-1138> chuckyp - I think they are both windows one of them being the restore partition fat32 - you can change what is mounted on boot with system .  administration . disk s
[10:02] <chuckyp> Have no idea where to begin.
[10:02] <ninix> anyone have an idea how to fix this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-195432.html
[10:02] <thanksjack> it's mounting twice?
[10:03] <minerale> Hi, I have a windows installation on my first hard drive, after some recent updates the item has gone and grub does not show it anymore? can anyone help ?
[10:03] <chuckyp> Well not really mounting twice but showing two icons for the same mount hda1 and hda1(2)
[10:03] <thanksjack> I tried sudo chmod 4755 smbmnt and it said "chmod: cannot access `smbmnt': No such file or directory" What am I doing wrong?
[10:03] <minerale> I do not know what to put on my menu.lst file
[10:03] <usr13> thanks chuckyp & Fannel
[10:03] <fir3> Flannel: i can't find that package :/
[10:03] <THX-1138> minerale - Yes, by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
[10:03] <chuckyp> THX-1138: well when I type mount its only showing /dev/hda1 to /mnt/windows
[10:04] <THX-1138> !tell minerale > grub
[10:04] <rambo3> minerale, there are so many howtos on forums about that
[10:04] <chuckyp> THX-1138: I don't have a rescue partition
[10:04] <usr13> redguy> I did not understand your comment, "synaptic can do it AFAIR"
[10:04] <pip> !prelink
[10:04] <ubotu> prelink: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20050901-1 (dapper), package size 659 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 powerpc ppc64)
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> chuckyp: Please post your fstab to the pastebin   gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup    to make a backup)
[10:04] <x_O> What does Error 21 is not a directory when i try to update synaptic
[10:04] <chuckyp> THX-1138: just /dev/hda1 -windows  /dev/hda2 - /   & /dev/hda5 - swap
[10:04] <x_O> Or when I first open it.
[10:04] <usr13> Could you please elaborate on that just a bit?
[10:04] <usr13> redguy:
[10:04] <chuckyp> Jack_Sparrow: alright hold up
[10:05] <Piero> I'm here, sorry
[10:05] <Piero> so, I said
[10:05] <Piero> i
[10:05] <THX-1138> chuckyp - hm - i think more information would be helpful because i am lost. - try sudo  fdisk -l l=list
[10:05] <Flannel> fir3: which package?
[10:05] <redguy> usr13: synaptic can do it as far as i remember
[10:05] <Piero> I get a "wrong password" error if I do "su"
[10:05] <Piero> and the typing root password
[10:05] <bahr> Hi, why does amarok say, that it doesn't support mp3????
[10:05] <Piero> I can't understand the problem
[10:05] <Flannel> bahr: you need to install codecs first
[10:05] <Flannel> !tell bahr about mp3
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Piero: Did you set a root password?
[10:05] <fir3> Flannel: the one with the ubuntu specific kernel patches
[10:05] <redguy> usr13: "do it" meaning it's a gui app that can add repositories with
[10:06] <Piero> Jack_Sparrow, sure. In fact, if I login as root
[10:06] <Piero> it works
[10:06] <Piero> but from an user, if I do "su"
[10:06] <Piero> I get wrong password
[10:06] <Piero> it's strange
[10:06] <x_O> I can't run Synaptic! It says Error 21 - Is not a directory.   What do I do??
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Piero: Running as root user can also laed to problems..
[10:06] <remnant> hi, I've been trying for a day now; I've installed the server edition of ubuntu dapper, but now I need a desktop; I did `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop` and then I did `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-rg`, but when I `startx` it gives me a screenful of errors: "Cannot open device /dev/wacom".  I'd really appreciate if someone could help me
[10:06] <usr13> redguy, "AFAIR" is a command?
[10:06] <krazykit> usr13: "as far as i remember"
[10:07] <thanksjack> remnant, did you update?
[10:07] <minerale> rambo3: how do I find them?
[10:07] <usr13> krazykit: ok, thanks
[10:07] <Andrew67> remnant: ubuntu-desktop is supposed to load GDM as well so startx would not be needed (if i recall)
[10:07] <redguy> usr13: no, it's an acronym As Far As I Remember
[10:07] <usr13> o
[10:07] <AZzKikR> THEY TOOK OUR JERBZ!
[10:07] <x_O> what is error 21?
[10:07] <usr13> got it
[10:07] <minerale> Hi, I have a windows installation on my first hard drive, after some recent updates the item has gone and grub does not show it anymore? can anyone help ? I understand there are howtos but cant find them, anyonjek now?
[10:07] <usr13> sorry
[10:07] <THX-1138> remant - there are some entries for wacom in  /etc/x11/xorg.conf - could that be what is causing it?
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Piero: Setting a root password and logging in as root is not advised
[10:07] <chuckyp> alright pasebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23671
[10:07] <redguy> x_O: depends on the program
[10:07] <Andrew67> remnant: also, /dev/wacom is for tablets, its a nonessential error
[10:07] <x_O> Synaptic
[10:07] <x_O> apt-get
[10:07] <Piero> yeah I know. but I would know
[10:07] <Piero> why I get wrong password
[10:08] <remnant> thanksjack: yes I did `sudo apt-get update` before those commands..
[10:08] <chuckyp> THX-1138: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23671  I don't know why the swap is showing up twice? in fdisk -l
[10:08] <x_O> It's saying that its a diretory
[10:08] <tiller> hi all,is there something i need to d/l to get Totem to show movie clips etc?
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Piero: USe sudo, or gksudo for gnome gui apps and kdesu for kde apps
[10:08] <THX-1138> minerale - editing /boot/grub/menu.lst should bring it back.
[10:08] <chuckyp> !tell teller about codecs
[10:08] <Piero> Jack_Sparrow, sure, but I would know the issue
[10:08] <Piero> the same
[10:08] <CromagDK> seriously, im about to uninstall Ubuntu haha, its beggining to be to much for me now :S
[10:08] <rambo3> minerale, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1201771&postcount=6
[10:09] <sirius> Hor|zon - yes im here, was afk for a bit ,did you figure out why the X.org ati driver freezes ?
[10:09] <remnant> I get a blank screen; monitor says frequency out of range but I took a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf plus I checked the horizontal and vertical sync
[10:09] <redguy> x_O: hmm maybe you have another synaptic open somewhere?
[10:09] <chuckyp> Whoever else was asking about my pastebin its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23671
[10:09] <x_O> No, i dont.
[10:10] <remnant> I did the lowest resolution possible
[10:10] <rambo3> is that edgy
[10:10] <remnant> I have to ctrl-alt-bksp to quit
[10:10] <x_O> I thought maybe it was my sources.list, bad syntax or something but .. I looked at it.
[10:10] <remnant> alternating resolutions do not work
[10:10] <rambo3> remnant, what driver .
[10:10] <lgine> http://stream.oziosi.org:8000/antimtvday.ogg
[10:11] <remnant> the config auto chooses ss3
[10:11] <remnant> s/ss3/s3
[10:11] <epiloc> Hor|zon, you there?
[10:11] <THX-1138> chuckyp - It isn't a default install configuration but, a seperate partition was created for /prc - not sure why that is that way.
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> chuckyp: Do you want to get rid of the desktop icon... can you manually delete the copy..?   To Remove Icons from Desktop Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[10:11] <Flannel> fir3: er, I guess there's no package for it on dapper.  in breezy it was "linux-patch-ubuntu"
[10:11] <chuckyp> THX-1138: there is no partition for proc
[10:12] <chuckyp> THX-1138: look at the start and end for the swap
[10:12] <chuckyp> Jack_Sparrow: I want to get rid of the double icon
[10:12] <redguy> THX-1138: /proc is virtual
[10:12] <x_O> ubuntu = broken every five minutes
[10:12] <x_O> sigh
[10:12] <remnant> lspci says "s3" (Trio32/64/64V+)
[10:13] <chuckyp> Jack_Sparrow: its showing hda1 and hda1(2) A copy of the first one on the desktop
[10:13] <chuckyp> Jack_Sparrow: both reference the same NTFS partition
[10:13] <redguy> x_O: mine isn't
[10:13] <EvilIdler> Is it possible to set r8169-based NICs to not autonegotiate? ethtool isn't doing it, and mii-tool isn't supported.
[10:13] <x_O> Mine is SO unreliable.
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> chuckyp: You are also running edgy... maybe they would know..
[10:13] <x_O> It's basically default install, too. Cept codecs .. and small little things.
[10:13] <chuckyp> Jack_Sparrow: OMG I'm sorry thought I was in edgy channel
[10:13] <chuckyp> Sry guys I'll go to edgy channel lol
[10:14] <x_O> Maybe losing data to bad sectors on HDD ... hmm.
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:14] <rambo3> remnant, i know 0 about that driver
[10:14] <rambo3> !s3
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <andriijas> how do i select the default soundcard to use with alsa?
[10:14] <xipietotec> I'm trying to install a GTK theme, and I unpacked it into .themes like it says to...but when I go to preferences==>themes it doesn't list it
[10:14] <THX-1138> chuckyp - I don't see what formatting was applied to /hda3 - Is it formatted?
[10:14] <rambo3> xipietotec, you dont install like that
[10:14] <KpeCToHoCeL|> how can I wach video on Ubuntu? is it possible?
[10:14] <xipietotec> okay, how do I?
[10:15] <gubluntu> xipietotec, just drag the pkg into the theme window
[10:15] <gubluntu> the compressed file
[10:15] <rambo3> xipietotec, just open theme manager and open file.tar.gz2 or whatever unpacked
[10:15] <blaa> what is pastebin.ca
[10:15] <ladydoor> !paste > blaa
[10:15] <root_> hi, how do increase the ip_conntrack table in ubuntu?
[10:15] <subpar> ugh, I just spent the last 10 hours in windows
[10:15] <xipietotec> file format is invalid?
[10:15] <THX-1138> !tell blaa about paste
[10:16] <subpar> I need to take a shower
[10:16] <grimx> i need libc6 2.3.4 so i can install w32codecs
[10:16] <ladydoor> !tell KpeCToHoCeL| about multimedia
[10:16] <root_> i want to increase this: ip_conntrack version 2.4 (8190 buckets, 65520 max) - 232 bytes per con
[10:16] <gu014> whats the best way to transfer and burn tivo files to dvd?
[10:16] <xipietotec> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38485 <---this is the theme I'm trying to install, I get a file format is invalid error
[10:16] <Huhn_2punkt0> help. I fucked up my grub, so I can only run windows. however I can not fix it from windows as I can't access my linux partitions anymore as they are fucked too: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/269/helpri0.gif
[10:16] <Huhn_2punkt0> oh sorry for the bad language
[10:16] <Huhn_2punkt0> !
[10:17] <THX-1138> gu014, - mencoder ??
[10:17] <remnant> hmm, looking at the log..
[10:17] <gu014> THX-1138: not familiar with mencoder?
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Huhn_2punkt0:    http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[10:18] <Huhn_2punkt0> thanks, will give it a try
[10:18] <xipietotec> hrmm...try installing the dev
[10:19] <remnant> is there a way to determine the amount of video ram on the card?
[10:19] <xipietotec> remnant: Yes, what's your card type?
[10:19] <THX-1138> Huhn_2punkt0, - there are several apps that add explorer like abilities for ext2/3 filesstems to windows. - did you try the ubuntu alternate text install cd rescuemode?s
[10:19] <KpeCToHoCeL|> http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=937&  Wich player is for dis one?
[10:19] <remnant> xipietotec: ss3
[10:19] <remnant> s/ss3/s3
[10:19] <xipietotec> That's the full name of the card?
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gu014: Start here   http://www.ptvupgrade.com/
[10:19] <xipietotec> or just what ubuntu device manager brings up as the actual chipset?
[10:20] <thanksjack> any reason why my ntfs mount might not show up in "Computer" but would in "Desktop" in gnome ?
[10:20] <remnant> xipietotec: it's an old card I had laying around after my other died
[10:20] <Huhn_2punkt0> THX-1138: I know; i got these. it's just that I wrote to the linux partition via dos startupcommand, when the drivers weren't loaded yet. this then made the partition unmountable for windows.
[10:20] <THX-1138> Huhn_2punkt0, - ubotu has a link for repairing grub also
[10:20] <remnant> lspci says "s3" (Trio32/64/64V+)
[10:20] <THX-1138> !grub
[10:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:20] <Huhn_2punkt0> ah k
[10:20] <Huhn_2punkt0> I will try that
[10:21] <xipietotec> remnant:     http://www.s3graphics.com/legacy.jsp
[10:21] <THX-1138> Huhn_2punkt0, - (embarassed) this isn't something i have seen. fsck maybe???
[10:22] <THX-1138> Huhn_2punkt0, - use a live cd to fsck?
[10:22] <xipietotec> why the heck is it telling me the file format is invalid on a GTK+ theme I got off of gnome-looks?
[10:22] <remnant> hmm, bad link =-/
[10:23] <xipietotec> http://www.s3graphics.com/en/index.jsp go to here, use search function
[10:23] <xipietotec> find Trio32 or 64, etc.
[10:23] <thanksjack> any reason why my ntfs mount might not show up in "Computer" but would in "Desktop" in gnome ?
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> xipietotec: get one of the gnome themes from gnome-look.org
[10:24] <unlucky1> is there a way to disable mounted media from displaying on the desktop?
[10:24] <xipietotec> Jack_sparrow: I did! but the theme manager is telling me it's an invalid file format
[10:25] <xipietotec> this is the theme I'm trying to install http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38485
[10:25] <knoppix__> i want to make a 19 gig archive file on a vfat filesystem that has a maximum of 4gig filesize, anyone have a suggestion on how to do this ?
[10:25] <THX-1138> xipietotec, - It is annoying isn't it. many packagers don't follow the guidelines. don't worry, there is another very simple way to install themes.   open your user name directory and CTRL+H to unhide directories add your new theme didirectory to .themes
[10:25] <ahaller> THX-1138, sorry what is "diff"?
[10:25] <xipietotec> THX: I did that too, but no new theme pops up
[10:25] <finalbeta> I'm using firefox, the browser has had allot of updates/Security vulns. How can ubuntu users get those updates? Automatic update doesn't work, and the update manager never shows anything firefox related?
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> xipietotec: You selected gnome themes or gtk themes.. on gnome-look.org
[10:26] <yarddog_> im looking for something for dual heads, any clues on the ati driver and this?
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> xinerama maybe
[10:26] <THX-1138> ahaller - It can compare and list the difference between two files. - very usefull when you need to apply patches or just see what has changed in a file.
[10:26] <Raz`> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I have no CD-Rs so I just wrote the ISO to my flash drive, which my mobo supports booting from. Using Syslinux, it says 'could not find kernel image' when I try to boot from it
[10:27] <xipietotec> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, this is a GTK2.X theme for gnome
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> xipietotec: and you are dropping the theme onto the theme manager in gnome/Ubuntu?
[10:27] <xipietotec> Yes
[10:27] <xipietotec> I also tried just unpacking it into .themes
[10:27] <xipietotec> I get no new themes
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> xipietotec: and you tried a NON-gtk theme..
[10:27] <JoseStefan> finalbeta, i'm sure ubuntu has those fixes
[10:27] <xipietotec> Err....IT says it's a GTK2.X theme
[10:28] <Raz`> Can anyone help me? Seems this is a minor problem to fix
[10:28] <Juhaz> xipietotec, it's whole bunch of gtk2.x themes for gnome. and it has an extraneous directory to boot which is why unpacking doesn't work either
[10:28] <JoseStefan> finalbeta, oh... 1.5.0.7 is out, nevermind
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> xipietotec: BAck to my original suggestion.. try a GNOME theme NOT a GTK theme from there
[10:28] <thanksjack> any reason why my ntfs mount might not show up in "Computer" but would in "Desktop" in gnome ?
[10:29] <Juhaz> xipietotec, put the subdirectories into ~/.themes, not the toplevel
[10:29] <xipietotec> Okay, I'll try that
[10:29] <Raz`> Anyone help me with my installation prob?
[10:29] <thanksjack> !ask
[10:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:29] <Juhaz> also, gtk themes don't show up in the theme manager main window, only in "controls" tab behind the details button
[10:30] <Raz`> I already did, want me to paste? lol
[10:30] <MattJ> So I can ask then?
[10:30] <finalbeta> JoseStefan, so I figure every ubuntu users browser is vuln.
[10:30] <thanksjack> nope, got it Raz, and I've never tried that before
[10:31] <Raz`> Well I don't see how it's much different than booting from a CD
[10:31] <JoseStefan> finalbeta, file a bug report (if one doesnt exist)
[10:31] <thanksjack> me neither
[10:31] <Raz`> I just copied all the files onto the root of my flash drive
[10:31] <thanksjack> is it bootable?
[10:31] <Raz`> but it can't find the kernel image. How would I point it in the right direction?
[10:31] <Raz`> yes
[10:31] <THX-1138> finalbeta - do you have a link?
[10:31] <|thunder> usb can only boot if mobo supports it
[10:31] <thanksjack> you have the kernel image on the flash right?
[10:31] <xipietotec> Juhaz: That doesn't work either
[10:31] <Raz`> i am booting from the usb
[10:32] <finalbeta> link? Yeah, I've posted bugs before, never got a sollution, so I gave up on that.
[10:32] <Raz`> I unzipped the iso to my flash drive
[10:32] <JoseStefan> THX-1138, http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.7.html
[10:32] <|thunder> i think U3 drives can boot just like a USB scsi drive
[10:32] <Raz`> it boots fine, just doesn't find the kernel image: linux
[10:32] <thanksjack> I tried unzipping an iso to a cd and it wouldn't work
[10:32] <THX-1138> JoseStefan - Thank You.
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> rmd... there is
[10:32] <tomp> help please... installing dapper from iso, no xvid, text and fb ok, err is 'X cannot stat /etc/X11/X no such f or d -- aborting"  S3 Virge/GC pci card
[10:32] <rmd> Jack_Sparrow: do share
[10:32] <thanksjack> does it give you the option of finding the kernel?
[10:32] <finalbeta> reboot.
[10:32] <cassidy> rmd: it's a option in .xchat2/xchat.conf
[10:33] <icet> how can I apt-get install exmap? Any adress I can put on my source.lst?
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> rmd: I actually use Konversation in Ubuntu, but others have done it. I just didnt pay attention since I dont use it.
[10:33] <JoseStefan> !exmap
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <xipietotec> but then again, none of my default ubuntu themes are in .themes either
[10:33] <Jtkiefer> anyone else having huge problems with apt-get
[10:33] <Jtkiefer> ???
[10:33] <rmd> cassidy: i'll take a look.  thanks
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> people, time for me to run...  play nice have fun. See you tomorrow or maybe later tonight..
[10:33] <JoseStefan> !info exmap edgy
[10:34] <ubotu> exmap: determine how much physical memory and swap is used by individual processes. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-2 (edgy), package size 114 kB, installed size 424 kB
[10:34] <|thunder> later Jack_Sparrow
[10:34] <remnant> my card is crappy; something's gone awry.. I gave exact monitor specifications yet it still screws up
[10:34] <cassidy> rmd: in fact it's the same file than with xchat. So, if you disable it with xchat it will work with x-g too
[10:34] <remnant> xorg logs say h and v sync out of range and insufficient video ram
[10:35] <remnant> argh
[10:35] <xipietotec> Anyone else? Where does ubuntu keep the default themes?
[10:35] <Raz`> It looks like it's because of there being no boot sector or something
[10:35] <xipietotec> because mine do not show under .themes
[10:35] <xipietotec> and It won't recognize this theme
[10:35] <rmd> cassidy: irc_who_join?
[10:36] <x_O> apt-get is BROKEN.
[10:36] <andriijas> is not
[10:36] <x_O> Error 21 - is a directory
[10:36] <Jtkiefer> I don't think it's apt-get that's having issues
[10:36] <x_O> >_< death
[10:36] <Jtkiefer> I think it's the repositories
[10:36] <cassidy> rm_you: i don't know
[10:36] <cassidy> rmd : oups :)
[10:36] <x_O> What could it be? Synaptic does the same thing. Figured it was sources.list but I don't see anything wrong with it.
[10:37] <olin> i've just read the guide to install the ati binary drivers. before i did this, i never had 3d support, now I do. However, i have dual monitor, which now isn't working, when it did previousley
[10:37] <rm_you> lol
[10:37] <ZeroOn1> is there a way to have remote music track control and broadcasting on ubuntu?
[10:38] <olin> the second monitor is there, and after installing the binary drivers, i did the same aticonfig setup
[10:38] <olin> just isn't working now?
[10:38] <SillyZ> question , 6.06.1 is the current version of ubuntu ?
[10:38] <olin> maybe i try replacing the aticonfig created xorg.conf file with the backup id did.
[10:38] <x_O> E: Read error - read (21 Is a directory)
[10:39] <x_O> That's the error I get...
[10:39] <THX-1138> ZeroOn1, - vlc can stream through it's own web interface. were you looking for a script to use with irc?
[10:39] <xipietotec> Anyone else able to help me with the theme issue?
[10:40] <THX-1138> I think there might be an interace for mplayer and xmms - though i haven't used them
[10:40] <xipietotec> I am completely unable to get this theme to work
[10:40] <tomp> what video cfg tools does ubuntu dapper have? i have no xvid with s3 virge pci
[10:41] <Raz`> Anyone have any idea how to put the ubuntu iso onto a flash drive where it will boot properly so I can install it?
[10:41] <Raz`> my mobo and the drive supports booting, none of that is the problem
[10:41] <x_O> Anyone know how to correct : "E: Read error - read (21 Is a directory)" ?
[10:41] <sean0hh> heh ok back
[10:41] <sean0hh> ok that worked
[10:41] <THX-1138> cool
[10:41] <sean0hh> but now resolution all funky
[10:41] <sean0hh> lol
[10:41] <sean0hh> must be vcard
[10:42] <sean0hh> there a way to change that?
[10:42] <sean0hh> been a long time
[10:42] <sean0hh> xorg file or something
[10:42] <sean0hh> x11
[10:42] <sean0hh> cant remember been a year
[10:42] <Raz`> Anyone help me with getting ubuntu to install from a flash drive?
[10:43] <Jtkiefer> anyone had any success getting the update packages through a browser using http instead of apt-get?
[10:43] <Jtkiefer> I'm thinking of trying that now
[10:43] <Jtkiefer> but I'm not sure if it'll work
[10:43] <|thunder> Raz`, did you extract the ISO to the flash drive. or just copy the ISO over ?
[10:44] <sean0hh> need resolution help please
[10:44] <rmd> cassidy: i can't find the option
[10:44] <Raz`> I extracted the iso
[10:44] <Raz`> it boots, it just can't find the kernel
[10:44] <JoseStefan> finalbeta, i filed the bug for firefox
[10:44] <cassidy> rmd: i don't know, sorry
[10:44] <sugoi_> using ext3, what can i do to undo an 'rm' of a file? (running ubuntu...so i thought i'd ask here)
[10:44] <THX-1138> sean0hh -np - nah, either run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again or sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directlly
[10:44] <Raz`> I've reformatted the flash drive to FAT32 and I'm looking at installing GRUB or something onto it to give it a boot sector
[10:44] <sean0hh> ty
[10:44] <Raz`> but this is mostly greek to me so I'm kinda lost :P
[10:45] <miteyMite`> if i go with ubuntu server edition and install X and gnome after the initial install completes it wont really feel/look the same as the gnome that ships with the desktop edition.... but also i dont need all the tons of extra applications that come with the desktop edition... am i given a chance to exclude certain software packages during the desktop installation procedure?
[10:45] <picasso> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:45] <picasso> i want to upgrade to 6.06 from 5.10 but i dont know why i get this error
[10:45] <|thunder> Raz`, if you extrqcted the ISO to the flash drive then you shouldnt need a boot oader
[10:45] <|thunder> *loader
[10:45] <picasso> is that source different now?
[10:46] <Raz`> Well, it loaded fine, but it could not find kernel image: linux
[10:46] <Raz`> pm me if you have an idea, i'll bbs
[10:46] <Senesence> How do I get the "tree" bash command to work in ubuntu? For some reason it doesn't register as a command in the terminal.
[10:46] <|thunder> picasso, sometimes the servers are down
[10:46] <|thunder> Senesence, have to install it. sudo apt-get install tree
[10:46] <ompaul> picasso, that should be up to date try pointing at ie.archive  (huge bandwidth they shift more than kernel.org every day, and they mirror kernel.org) or archive
[10:47] <Senesence> thanks |thunder
[10:47] <picasso> ie.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[10:47] <ompaul> picasso, yes
[10:47] <picasso> k
[10:48] <picasso> hooray, works. thanks
[10:48] <tomcatt> !wifi
[10:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:49] <picasso> oi
[10:49] <blaa> what is gdb?
[10:49] <picasso> ok back to the problem i used to have :) "Could not calculate the upgrade" "A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug."
[10:49] <blaa> how to use gdb
[10:49] <blaa> ?
[10:51] <ompaul> blaa, it is the gnu debugger and how to use it way beyond the scope of this channel please go to #gcc  they might be of more use to you
[10:51] <ompaul> blaa, you ccould try #ubuntu-motu if anyone has the time there
[10:52] <surgy> ok im back
[10:52] <graveson> which combination of harware and software could for archiving  VCR tapes to MPEG ?
[10:52] <surgy> sorry bout that
[10:53] <xplic1t> I've lost root access to mysql and I haven't had success resetting the permissions, should I and how do I uninstall/reinstall mysql5 ?
[10:53] <hondje> graveson: a capture card and transcode would be fine
[10:53] <Somethingelse> i think mysql has a password recovery method...
[10:53] <sugoi_> ...is there nothing i can do after rm'ing a file?
[10:54] <Somethingelse> but i can't remember the method...
[10:54] <graveson> hondje: can you inform where i can find out which supported card i can purchase ?
[10:54] <xplic1t> yes.. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html but i either can't follow it, or it just doesn't like me.
[10:54] <ompaul> xplic1t,  http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-mysql-password.shtml
[10:54] <dcroce> can i download skins for xmms anywhere?
[10:54] <hondje> graveson: I don't know offhand, sorry
[10:54] <sugoi_> well...is there anything i can do to force an upgrade? (refresh the kernel)
[10:54] <hondje> perhaps the mythTV site
[10:54] <dcroce> i guess its website:P
[10:54] <dcroce> nvm
[10:55] <surgy> den
[10:55] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, try #mysql
[10:55] <xipietotec> any help installing a gtk theme for ubuntu?
[10:55] <xplic1t> oh, maybe my question is, how do i Start the mysqld daemon process with the --skip-grant-tables option.
[10:55] <xplic1t> what is the command to start it?
[10:55] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:55] <surgy> are you the off brand x-ibit?
[10:56] <Somethingelse> did you try it with or without single quotes?
[10:56] <Somethingelse> if with, your password has single quotes in it :)
[10:56] <Jtkiefer> there a way to install kde on ubuntu without going full out to kubuntu?
[10:56] <Somethingelse> or did you get an error running any of those commands?
[10:56] <Jtkiefer> and preferably make it switchable between the two
[10:56] <Somethingelse> yea, but you may as well
[10:56] <xipietotec> Anyone? I can't even seem to find the default themes that come with ubuntu in .themes
[10:57] <xipietotec> and I can't get this theme (which is on gnome-look.org) to install
[10:57] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, try putting the option, on your mysql conf file
[10:57] <xplic1t> Some, is that to me?  I know /etc/init.d/mysql, but how to start mysqld with --skip-grant-tables?
[10:57] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, and restart the service
[10:58] <xplic1t> like, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start --skip-grant-tables ?
[10:58] <sugoi_> hello?
[10:58] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, no, edit this file: /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[10:58] <Somethingelse> service mysql start --skip-grant-tables
[10:58] <|thunder> hello
[10:58] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, add "skip-grant-tables" to it
[10:58] <Rich43> do mysql connections ever time out?
[10:59] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, ...on the [mysqld]  block, then restart with sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[10:59] <JoseStefan> Rich43, yes, they do
[10:59] <michale> hello, how do i switch displays?  I am trying to run warcraft3 with xlaunch, that script that starts an app in a new xserver (b/c xgl doesn't like opengl games)
[10:59] <Rich43> how long is that?
[11:00] <Cheef-Daniel> I lost my ubuntu-boot partition, how can I restore it?
[11:00] <JoseStefan> Rich43, it's a client (and maybe server) setting
[11:00] <keescook> michale: do you mean virtual terminals? ctrl-alt-F7 or ctrl-alt-F8, etc?
[11:00] <Andrew67> michale: Ctrl-Alt-F(terminal number), X takes terminals from 7 and up, so xlaunch is probably Ctrl-Alt-F8
[11:00] <JoseStefan> Rich43, and i believe there are keep alive signals, but not 100% sure
[11:00] <Subhuman> Cheef-Daniel, you mean the thing that lets you choose your ubuntu or windows?
[11:01] <Subhuman> you prob mean MBR
[11:01] <Subhuman> !mbr
[11:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:01] <xplic1t> Jose, thank you, but access is still denied
[11:01] <codecaine_> hi I can't get sound to play on my pc anybody know a fix?
[11:01] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, let me try it on my own server, please hold
[11:01] <michale> andrew67, i tried that, but f8 was what looking like info from the boot, and f9 and up didn't respond
[11:01] <Cheef-Daniel> I used dd on the boot partition, grub says error 17 at boot
[11:02] <xplic1t> Jose, of course I will, thank you for checking
[11:02] <ivanoski> hi i cant play any videos, or music, or get messenger to work
[11:02] <Andrew67> michale: no idea then, i tried xlaunch once which didnt work
[11:02] <|thunder> codecaine, does lspci or dmesg show your hardware spces?
[11:02] <|thunder> !w32 > ivanoski
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <rmd> finally
[11:02] <zorgIsBack> hi
[11:02] <|thunder> !w32codecs > ivanoski
[11:02] <codecaine_> yes
[11:03] <usr13> what is the command to update time with ntp time server?
[11:03] <codecaine_> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[11:03] <sugoi_> are there any tools to force a kernel upgrade on ubuntu?
[11:03] <|thunder> codecaine, ac97 shouold work like a charm
[11:03] <Andrew67> sugoi_: are your packages getting kept back?
[11:03] <sugoi_> i was deleting kernels (had an old one -very little hd space on this machine)
[11:03] <sugoi_> and i deleted the wrong one
[11:03] <|thunder> sugoi_, i use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:04] <zorgIsBack> is it possible to use wpa2 wifi encryption with Ubuntu?
[11:04] <sugoi_> Andrew67: no, it thinks it's up to date
[11:04] <|thunder> !wpa2
[11:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:04] <sugoi_> |thunder: i had just done that...and was removing the old kernel...slip of the hand :)
[11:04] <Andrew67> did you remove the latest kernel then?
[11:04] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, looks like that option cannot be located on the my.cnf so go ahead and remove it again, i will see how to start the server from CLI without the init script
[11:04] <sugoi_> um, yeah
[11:04] <Wermut> How can I rename a bunch of files named $mispelled_name of artist - $title to $correct_name_of_artist - $title ?
[11:04] <epiloc> Hor|zon, wake up.
[11:05] <codecaine_> how do I use ac97?
[11:05] <Andrew67> sugoi_: try apt-get linux- and after the dash the architecture (386, 686, etc)
[11:05] <codecaine_> I mean how do I get it to work
[11:05] <BlueEagle> !nvidia
[11:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:05] <codecaine_> I know I had it working on here before
[11:05] <epiloc> Hor|zon, I figured it out :)
[11:05] <jrib> Wermut: rename 's/wrong_name/correct_name/' *    <-- try with -n first to see if it works
[11:05] <Hor|zon> it was the router?
[11:05] <Andrew67> codecaine_: does "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" produce static on your speakers?
[11:05] <epiloc> nope, My ISP is blocking incoming port 80
[11:05] <Hor|zon> LOL why?
[11:06] <epiloc> so i rerouted through port 421
[11:06] <Andrew67> Hor|zon: some ISPs are like that
[11:06] <Hor|zon> why on earth would they do that...
[11:06] <Hor|zon> lol
[11:06] <Hor|zon> just leave those kinds of isps
[11:06] <Andrew67> they dont want customers hosting anything
[11:06] <Raz`> Anyone help me install ubuntu from an iso on a flash drive?
[11:06] <epiloc> Hor|zon, because Cox Cable is the devil
[11:06] <Andrew67> i know, its evil
[11:06] <codecaine_> could not open/intialize audio device -> no sound
[11:06] <Raz`> it boots, but 'could not find kernel: linux'
[11:06] <codecaine_> on mplayer
[11:06] <Raz`> I'm not sure where it stores the path or how to fix it
[11:06] <epiloc> so yeah, Im trying to decide if i should even bother calling them
[11:07] <mirkash> hi all, I have problem with loading pages in firefox on ubuntu dapper,
[11:07] <|thunder> Raz`, you never awnsered me. did you extract the ISO to the flash drive, or just copy the iso ?
[11:07] <mirkash> This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept
[11:07] <mirkash>     cookies
[11:07] <Raz`> I extracted it
[11:07] <Andrew67> sugoi_: still there?
[11:07] <Raz`> and yes, I did answer you
[11:07] <Hor|zon> they might unblock it if you ask...might as well ask
[11:07] <Hor|zon> say you need port 80
[11:07] <epiloc> i doubt they will open port 80 for me, so im just going to call and complain, and then cancel my service
[11:07] <mirkash> is the message i get
[11:07] <codecaine_> nope
[11:07] <|thunder> Raz`, sry. i didnt see it.   other than that I have no idea. besides mobo configs
[11:07] <netrix> how can i increase the size of the ip_conntrack table to fix the following problem: ip_conntrack: table full, dropping packet
[11:07] <stuart_> can someone please help me, ive mounted my drive but im denied permission to access it. what do i do?
[11:07] <Raz`> Well, where does it store the path information that it would know where the kernel is?
[11:07] <Hor|zon> they might be able to...it might just be blocked by default because of policy
[11:07] <Raz`> that's what's wrong
[11:08] <sugoi_> Andrew67: yes, i'm here, ill use apt-get linux-<arch>
[11:08] <Hor|zon> or something
[11:08] <epiloc> they monitor tons of traffic and inject RST packets into the TCP stack to kill the requests
[11:08] <epiloc> and they deny it
[11:08] <Hor|zon> =_=
[11:08] <epiloc> the techs dont even know
[11:08] <Hor|zon> wow...
[11:08] <Andrew67> epiloc: similar to china?
[11:08] <epiloc> *sigh*
[11:09] <Andrew67> RST should be removed/ignored
[11:09] <epiloc> Andrew67, i guess
[11:09] <epiloc> ok, calling now- brb
[11:09] <Andrew67> epiloc: you have another ISP around right
[11:09] <slimz> hi i just installed ubuntu in vmware on my windows machine, wich is a pentium 4 3.0 with 512 megs ddr400, and its running really slow, is this because of vmware?
[11:09] <phaedrus44> sweet i have an ipod booting ubuntu now
[11:09] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, so you tried with the "init file" ?
[11:10] <epiloc> Andrew67, not really
[11:10] <Andrew67> that might be a problem
[11:10] <jnt30> so I'm not sure if there is a proper way to address issues or ask questions.  But I do have a question about using mount with samba
[11:10] <xplic1t> yes, it times out when i do
[11:10] <epiloc> Andrew67, cox has a sort of natural monopoly out here
[11:10] <Andrew67> slimz: the 2 times i tried vmware, yes it was really slow
[11:10] <jnt30> if I try mounting a smbfs without using the proper credentials/password username pair
[11:10] <Raz`> so guys, when it asks for the kernel file, can I just type the full path and point it in the right direction?
[11:10] <Andrew67> epiloc: same here (with another company)
[11:10] <clyons> slimz: what product of vmware are you using?
[11:10] <jnt30> the directory that I tried to mount to is no longer usable
[11:10] <Hor|zon> yeah it normally is a monopoly
[11:10] <epiloc> I think there is a wireless isp that i hear is good, i should probably find out if they do the same thing
[11:10] <slimz> Andrew67 : so if i install ubuntu, and then install windows xp in vmware on ubuntu, will i still have the same slow speeds?
[11:10] <Andrew67> luckily they're fairly new with internet service so they havent done anything evil yet
[11:11] <Eddie> Anyone know how I can kill kacpid without screwing up usb?
[11:11] <epiloc> lucky
[11:11] <Andrew67> slimz: probably, im using qemu + kqemu instead, perhaps i just configured vmware wrong, who knows
[11:11] <Hor|zon> the cable isp usually give you crap upload anyways
[11:11] <slimz> cylons: VMware-workstation 552.29772 by UFIX2
[11:11] <Andrew67> epiloc: of course, mediocre speeds and not 100% uptime
[11:11] <drew> Hi, one of my FAT32 partitions was corrupt today, but only the Partition Tables or MBR or whatever it's called.  Using a partition tool I could see that the data was there if I didn't read the "BOOT" data... Is there some way to make this data readable again?
[11:11] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[11:11] <Wermut> jcrib: Thank you!
[11:12] <Eddie> and formatted it ext3
[11:12] <Hor|zon> epiloc, I'm on cable now...I have 10mbit down but only like 512kbps up max...really sucks
[11:12] <xplic1t> JoseStefan, oh this looks very promising, thank you!
[11:12] <xvxvx> hey, how do u take a screenshot of the gnome logout dialog?
[11:12] <Raz`> Anyone? how would I point it in the right direction when it says 'could not find kernel image'?
[11:12] <miteyMite`> 300gb sata drives are like $100 bux why buy a 200gb one
[11:12] <miteyMite`> heh
[11:12] <Hor|zon> I onyl use them because they don't have those stupid bw quotas like the adsl providers
[11:12] <Hor|zon> only*
[11:12] <clyons> slimz: ok...how much memory have you allocated to the VM?
[11:12] <Andrew67> 10mbits.....laugh at my 320kbps
[11:13] <slimz> cylons: the max it lets me allocate is 192
[11:13] <Andrew67> though i think i have 320/320
[11:13] <Hor|zon> lol
[11:13] <Andrew67> because i see similar down/up speeds
[11:13] <Tommy> Hey guys, I am new...I just installed Ubantu on my Windows PC to try to dual boot, but all I get at startup is th GNOME menu....How do I boot Windows?
[11:13] <Eddie> my monitor sucks so badly its a 4 year old TFT
[11:13] <ossie> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:13] <Hor|zon> hahahah Andrew67 that's crazy
[11:13] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, you might need to start it with "sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables &"
[11:13] <Eddie> little bands of slightly darker colour fade across it
[11:13] <Andrew67> Tommy: when you turn on the PC it asks you what to run, there should be a Windows option
[11:13] <Eddie> like a TV with bad reception
[11:13] <Andrew67> there's #ubuntu-xgl? cool
[11:13] <thanksjack> my desktop looks so pimp now
[11:13] <thelsdj> so i did a bad thing and tried upgrading dapper to edgy, doesn't appear to boot properly, i'm downloading knot 3 iso but thought i'd try to see if i can fix, is there a way to hide the graphical boot and see debug info?
[11:14] <Eddie> I have 300 to spare next week
[11:14] <Eddie> but im getting better loudspeakers instead of a better monitor
[11:14] <Eddie> even though this monitor makes me vomit and my eyes bleed
[11:14] <slimz> Eddie : www.ncix.com , theyre having big time blow out sales on screens for back to school
[11:14] <thanksjack> just get a new monitor and some headphones
[11:14] <Tommy> It doesnt ask....it just says press esc for menu and I have all Ubantu files to choose from....I cant get windows to open
[11:14] <epiloc> they put me on hold, im praying for a Tier 2 tech
[11:14] <Hor|zon> Eddie, lol 300...gonna get a 20.1" dvi monitor?
[11:14] <Andrew67> thelsdj: remove splash (and maybe quiet too) from kernel line (in config, or using grubs edit mode)
[11:14] <clyons> clyons: that would be right..the minimum amount of RAM for needed to run workstation is 512MB. What are you trying to run in the VM?
[11:14] <sugoi_> Andrew67: i tried apt-get linux-i386 => invalid opeation, and i remembered to use install, and i get "E: Couldn't find package linux-i386", am i close?
[11:14] <Eddie> Hor|zon: I might work for an extra week and get both
[11:14] <thelsdj> Andrew67 thanks will give that a try
[11:15] <Andrew67> sugoi_: no i
[11:15] <xplic1t> JoseStefan, :/ http://rafb.net/paste/results/dNDXpQ63.html
[11:15] <sugoi_> ah, ok coo
[11:15] <sugoi_> doh
[11:15] <thanksjack> what command do I use to check my current kernel?
[11:15] <sugoi_> says "linux-386 is already the newest version."
[11:15] <Andrew67> thanksjack: uname -r
[11:15] <thanksjack> thanks
[11:16] <Andrew67> mm
[11:16] <Tommy> I cant get windows to boot after installing Ubantu
[11:16] <Raz`> guys, the ubuntu install disk just boots into ubuntu without installing? How do I just install it without all that
[11:16] <slimz> Raz'\; there should be an install icon on your desktop
[11:16] <Tommy> I just restarted and I have no windows option
[11:16] <Andrew67> sugoi_: try if apt-get -f install does anything, for curiosity
[11:16] <Raz`> so I boot into linux and there's an install icon?
[11:16] <thanksjack> yes
[11:16] <Raz`> the problem is that I can't get it to load from my flash drive
[11:16] <thanksjack> then you follow the install directions
[11:17] <Raz`> it boots
[11:17] <xvxvx> Tommy, maybe if you press esc at boot when it is counting down
[11:17] <JoseStefan> xplic1t, make sure all mysql proccess are killed before starting it
[11:17] <Raz`> but can't find the kernel image
[11:17] <thanksjack> just burn it lol, it'll take less time
[11:17] <Raz`> with zero CD-Rs, it takes considerably more time
[11:17] <clyons> slimz: did you get my last message?
[11:17] <Raz`> :(
[11:17] <thanksjack> get a RW cd and burn
[11:17] <Andrew67> xvxvx: he says he sees no windows option, which is strange
[11:17] <sugoi_> Andrew67: apt-get -f install linux-386 ?
[11:17] <Raz`> lemme try to boot it again
[11:17] <slimz> cylons : no, stupid mirc doesnt notify me
[11:17] <Andrew67> no, without, just apt-get -f install
[11:17] <Hor|zon> lol Raz, burn it to dvd?
[11:17] <Raz`> can't I just type the path in when it asks for the kernel image?
[11:17] <Andrew67> see if it does anything
[11:17] <sugoi_> k
[11:17] <Hor|zon> hehe
[11:17] <Tommy> I tried pressing esc at boot and all I get is the gnome menu with Ubantu options....
[11:18] <sugoi_> 0 upgrades, 0 .., 0..., etc
[11:18] <Andrew67> mmm
[11:18] <thanksjack> I just use one RW cd so I can reuse it for different distros/versions
[11:18] <xplic1t> Jose, mysql was stopped before it
[11:18] <Raz`> hey I think this might be the problem
[11:18] <Raz`> its booting with syslinux but the linux.iso is in /isolinux
[11:18] <slimz> cylons : if you prv msg me i didnt get it, i hadnt regd my nick yet
[11:18] <Raz`> ?
[11:18] <Milktea> Offtopic from ubuntu, but has anyone here taken bio2ap before
[11:18] <Andrew67> sugoi_: lets see, since ive never deleted a kernel...
[11:18] <clyons> slmiz: the amount of 192mb is correct as you have the only the minium amount of RAM needed for Workstation. What are you trying to run inside the VM?
[11:18] <sugoi_> Andrew67: should i map the boot to use the old kernel, boot into it and see if apt-get still thinks it doesn't need an upgrade?
[11:18] <epiloc> Everyone cross your fingers!  I have already threatened to cancel service twice now!
[11:18] <sugoi_> or does it not check the currently running kernel...?
[11:19] <Andrew67> huh
[11:19] <Andrew67> what kernel did you delete?
[11:19] <Andrew67> EXACT number?
[11:19] <sugoi_> one sec
[11:19] <Hor|zon> lol epiloc
[11:19] <mattsta> who can help with my video problen?
[11:19] <slimz> cylons : i was just trying to do anything, on the desktop, but it practically stops my computer, windows barely responds, and neither does ubuntu
[11:19] <epiloc> Hor|zon, back on hold, tier 3 tech i guess :O
[11:20] <Andrew67> i wouldnt cancel without a backup ISP
[11:20] <thanksjack> best IRC program?
[11:20] <ladydoor> !best
[11:20] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:20] <thanksjack> most mature IRC program?
[11:20] <Andrew67> haha, nice factoid
[11:20] <Milktea> What are the decent IRC programs out there?
[11:20] <Andrew67> !mature
[11:20] <Hor|zon> sugoi_, nihonjin desu ka?
[11:20] <Andrew67> aww
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <Milktea> I've used XChat, LostIRC, but I'm looking for something more like mIRC
[11:20] <ladydoor> thanksjack: there are a lot of good ones. irssi, xchat, etc. are popular
[11:21] <ladydoor> Milktea: see my post to thanksjack
[11:21] <thanksjack> i just need something more than gaim
[11:21] <thelsdj> how do i get grub to not hide the menu? hiddenmenu is commented but i still don't get menu
[11:21] <Milktea> I'm not exactly a fan of using irssi in a terminal
[11:21] <Milktea> are there any clients similar to mIRC for windows?
[11:21] <thanksjack> nicely put milk
[11:21] <clyons> slmiz: yes i understand and I have had the same happen to me.  The solution is more RAM, I was running on 512MB and tried using Ubunu 6.06 but it was so slow..i tried XUbuntu and it worked better. When I upgraded the RAM to 1GB, plain Ubuntu worked fine.
[11:21] <sugoi_> Hor|zon: nope, i just used to live in japan
[11:21] <Andrew67> Milktea: i think xchat might be the closest youll get, but i havent really used anything else
[11:21] <ladydoor> Milktea: xchat maybe? it's graphikal and you need to use the mouse to use it
[11:21] <Xal> I use XChat
[11:22] <Xal> Otherwise, i like IRSSI
[11:22] <Milktea> I used XChat before also
[11:22] <ivanoski> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and nothing else and i want to know where to go from here
[11:22] <Hor|zon> sugoi_, lucky you
[11:22] <mattsta> can someone out there please help
[11:22] <Xal> Lol, XChat won't save my settings for some reason.
[11:22] <marshall> hey guys
[11:22] <Icetea> woo
[11:22] <Icetea> irssi
[11:22] <Icetea> ):
[11:22] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:22] <sugoi_> Andrew67: getting information about what exactly happened is delayed simply because...i wasn't actually the one who deleted the kernel :), my friend is just starting to use linux at home
[11:22] <Hor|zon> thanksjack, irssi if you don't mind the command-line and learning how to use screen...xchat is good...just stay away from the gnome-xchat
[11:23] <sugoi_> he called me up, and i don't use ubuntu (nor have i ever rm'd my kernel) so i came here to get some ideas
[11:23] <Xal> I use XChat at home, and IRSSI at school.
[11:23] <Milktea> I use irssi in a ssl from school
[11:23] <Milktea> lol
[11:23] <Andrew67> how does one rm a kernel anyway...
[11:23] <sugoi_> Andrew67: so, im waiting for his reply to see which kernel exactly he lost
[11:23] <Xal> What is an SSL? I use an SSH session.
[11:24] <sugoi_> Andrew67: his machine has about 1GB, so he's trying to keep the space really free
[11:24] <Milktea> i meant ssh
[11:24] <thelsdj> so anyone know why i don't get grub menu even though hiddenmenu is commented?
[11:24] <Milktea> :<
[11:24] <sugoi_> after upgrading he meant to simply rm the old one
[11:24] <Milktea> im typing on like 5 channels
[11:24] <Xal> thelsdj, check the time that is stays on.
[11:24] <SillyZ> SSL is web encryption... SSH is SecureSHell
[11:24] <Andrew67> sugoi_: he shouldve used apt-get to remove it
[11:24] <Hor|zon> yeah, it was obviously a typo
[11:24] <Xal> Maybe it's there, but it doesn't stay on so long.
[11:24] <Hor|zon> =_=
[11:24] <thelsdj> haha ok wtf, i typed reboot at the rescue console, and i ended up with login console, so my system is kindof ok, but something is wrong with the boot
[11:24] <Xal> Ah ok
[11:24] <Xal> lol
[11:24] <Milktea> anyone here in high school
[11:24] <Xal> I am
[11:24] <Milktea> or taken bio2ap in high school
[11:25] <Xal> I'm taking AP Bio right now
[11:25] <Milktea> Do you know any websites
[11:25] <Milktea> for the labs
[11:25] <Xal> No
[11:25] <Milktea> they're the same mandatory labs as the rest of the USA
[11:25] <xipietotec> How do you manage compiz themes?
[11:25] <Milktea> cgwd
[11:25] <sugoi_> Andrew67: i'll have him read up on apt-get (i never use it, so i'm not a good source for him -- <gentoo user>)
[11:25] <Xal> Our teacher gives us the labs we need.
[11:25] <thelsdj> Xal, its set to 10 seconds
[11:25] <Milktea> Yeah, you need to go through all the labs
[11:25] <Milktea> the mandatory ones
[11:25] <Milktea> for the AP test
[11:26] <Xal> Yeah, I know
[11:26] <Andrew67> sugoi_: apt-get remove --purge linux-image-*kernel here*
[11:26] <Andrew67> should be enough
[11:26] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, run gcompizthemer
[11:26] <Xal> Maybe you can find an ebook of the princeton review book for AP bio
[11:26] <Andrew67> for next time
[11:27] <sugoi_> Andrew67: it was vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 that he deleted
[11:27] <thelsdj> i have a feeling all i have to do to get this to work is to remount / rw and then exit shell and system boots, so question is what in boot process is screwing it up so its not remounting / and moving on
[11:27] <xipietotec> HorIzon: Where is that at?
[11:28] <Andrew67> sugoi_: thats, old, what IS he using anyway
[11:28] <epiloc> Well, it looks like cox doesnt care about my port 80
[11:28] <epiloc> bastards
[11:28] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, just open a terminal and type gcompizthemer
[11:28] <mattsta> can someone please give me a hand with something
[11:28] <codecaine_> why do firefox crash most of the time on myspace?
[11:28] <Xal> because myspace sucks, lol
[11:28] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, to save time next time just apt-get install compiz-manager and you get a tray icon to manage stuff from
[11:28] <thelsdj> codecaine, its a conspiracy
[11:28] <xipietotec> I installed compiz....but I've got no such program
[11:28] <Xal> The formatting on many profiles is poorly done, too
[11:28] <Hor|zon> hmm?
[11:28] <djm62> mattsta: don't ask to ask, just get it out there
[11:28] <SillyZ> does anyone know if the 'fan' issue is plauged in Kubuntu ?
[11:29] <SillyZ> ie: cpu fan not running
[11:29] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:29] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, you need to "sudo apt-get install cgwd cgwd-themes"
[11:29] <ivanoski> after i install ubuntu what am i supposed to do
[11:29] <mattsta> how can i watch videos online, like music videos, youtube, and filecabi
[11:29] <djm62> ivanoski: what do you normally use a computer for?
[11:30] <Subhuman> mattsta, get the flash plugin
[11:30] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, and then alter your script that starts compiz and replace the gnome-winder-decorator command with "cgwd --replace"
[11:30] <Subhuman> !flash
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:30] <ivanoski> to download stuff, chat, game, watch videos....
[11:30] <djm62> mattsta: youtube requires an up-to-date plugin, which adobe are behind on supplying.
[11:30] <xipietotec> horizon: No such packages
[11:30] <Pests> Hi, I'm trying to install AIM (the linux version) but I'm having trouble with what to download and how to instll.
[11:30] <Subhuman> ivanoski, goto System- Admin - Synaptic package manager"
[11:30] <Renan_s2> Pests, use Gaim
[11:30] <Hor|zon> eh? which compiz are you using?
[11:30] <mattsta> is there an online media player?
[11:30] <Pests> I dont like gaim.
[11:30] <Xal> Why don't you just use gaim?
[11:30] <Pests> I want aim
[11:30] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:30] <Xal> Oh lol
[11:30] <Xal> eew
[11:30] <rafkid> hi
[11:30] <Subhuman> ivanoski, look at the help in system-help-system docs
[11:30] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, which tutorial did you follow?
[11:30] <xipietotec> HorIzon, I think I originally typed sudo aptitude install compiz
[11:30] <Subhuman> its got alot of useful info
[11:31] <thelsdj> the aim for linux is worse than gaim
[11:31] <Pests> Thats fine.
[11:31] <chaos_> woot
[11:31] <Pests> Regardless, Im getting errors when I try to install.
[11:31] <chaos_> xchat is running
[11:31] <rafkid> any chance of some help for an ubuntu n00b???
[11:31] <Milktea> yeash
[11:31] <Milktea> help[
[11:31] <thelsdj> Pests, ask aol
[11:31] <Pests> This is the ubuntu support channel
[11:31] <mattsta> its seems to be WMVs
[11:31] <Milktea> just ask to
[11:31] <Milktea> er
[11:31] <Milktea> get gaim
[11:31] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:32] <chaos_> does xchat have a minimize to tray feature?
[11:32] <djm62> Pests: it's also full of volunteers- who are understandably confused by quite why you need/want/prefer AIM
[11:32] <sethk> rafkid, ask a question, you might get an answer
[11:32] <thelsdj> pests, seriously, use gaim, if you're set on using the aim from aol, you atleast have to tell us what the error is
[11:32] <Pests> Okay, lets this this another wayl
[11:32] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:32] <sugoi_> Andrew67: he has an amd-300
[11:33] <Pests> A website is offering me a rpm, a deb 3, a deb 2.1, and a tgz file. Which one do I download to install?
[11:33] <rafkid> would anyone care to give a complete n00b a one to one to get me started with ubuntu server???? it's loaded and sat there doing not much
[11:33] <Eddie> I am torrenting like a bitch
[11:33] <sethk> chaos_, in KDE it has an icon in the panel
[11:33] <ivanoski> ok thank you
[11:33] <Andrew67> sugoi_: sorry, have to go do some other work
[11:33] <Milktea> Pests, any of those work, but deb is more preffered
[11:33] <sugoi_> Andrew67: ok thanks
[11:33] <chaos_> raf, that's really not what we do here
[11:33] <sethk> chaos_, but not minimized to the panel.  the icon is always there.  it has a blinking ! if there is activity
[11:33] <ucordes> Eddie: torrent is a fine thing!
[11:33] <thelsdj> pets, just a guess, try the deb 3, then do sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:33] <Eddie> if only apt-get * grabbed the entire internet, I bet there would be people who would try it
[11:33] <rafkid> cheers chum - give me a hint where to get it chaos
[11:33] <Pests> When I try to download the deb files I get a "The file http://ftp.newaol.com/aimgen/380469/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file."
[11:33] <Pests> error.
[11:33] <djm62> mattsta: when I get the occasional youtube link, I have a copy of firefox for windows, with the flash plugin, running under wine
[11:33] <chaos_> where to get what?
[11:33] <sethk> rafkid, I'd suggest trying the text mode install from the alternate cd
[11:33] <chaos_> I just joined
[11:33] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[11:34] <xipietotec> Oh...wait...nevermind I see Compiz is part of XGL, I can't use it
[11:34] <Milktea> lol @ sudo apt-get install *
[11:34] <rafkid> thanks for that
[11:34] <Ratlump> I'm curious about wireless settings on laptops.  Any idea why I can set my built-in wireless to 11Mb/s and get incredibly slow speeds, but then I accidentally set it to 5.5Mb/s and got blazing speeds?
[11:34] <Hor|zon> LOL
[11:34] <Hor|zon> xipietotec
[11:34] <Hor|zon> =_=
[11:34] <Hor|zon> _
[11:34] <chaos_> rafkid, what are you trying to install?
[11:34] <mrbrdo> the BCM43xx driver page says there is a new driver available "Another branch of this driver, based on the Devicescape 802.11 Stack".. does this already available to ubuntu users?
[11:34] <ucordes> after kernel update my windows disappeared from grub menu.lst . i readded an entry but it doesn't work. grub says: partition nt found. my windows is on dev/hda3
[11:34] <mattsta> ohh, well what about music videos, because it always wants to download them under a .asx file
[11:34] <djm62> mattsta: completely unofficial, but it allows the display of annoying but unavoidable flash sites. YMMV
[11:34] <xipietotec> Okay....now lets hope this doesn't crash my openGL like the time I tried to install XGL
[11:35] <sethk> Ratlump, I'd guess that at 11 mb/s the driver is saying "I can't handle that" and reverting to 1 MB/s
[11:35] <Hor|zon> lol
[11:35] <rafkid> have done the install of the ubuntu server - its come up with a command line - im a windows wysiwyg idiot
[11:35] <djm62> mattsta: how are you trying to download them?
[11:35] <hiffy> GCC is telling me "error: stdio.h: No such file or directory"; would anyone know which ubuntu package contains the C library?
[11:35] <Pests> Getting: "The file http://ftp.newaol.com/aimgen/380469/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file." when it ry to download.
[11:35] <sethk> rafkid, ok, you did the server install.  if you want a desktop, do the desktop install
[11:35] <chaos_> ok, so you want a desktop?
[11:35] <sethk> rafkid, or install the desktop now from the command line using apt-get
[11:35] <rafkid> i want to set it up to run as my home server
[11:35] <chaos_> home server doing what?
[11:35] <xipietotec> Okay, what's the one for non-nvidia cards and such ai something something
[11:36] <xipietotec> aiglx?
[11:36] <djm62> Pests: hang on, I've found the site
[11:36] <chaos_> servers can serve any number of services
[11:36] <ucordes> how should my windws entry in groub look like when windows is on /dev/had3
[11:36] <sethk> rafkid, it's already set up for that
[11:36] <rafkid> email, print server etc
[11:36] <Ratlump> sethk: Yes, the speeds were strange.  Like around 100kbps upload and 700kpbs down.
[11:36] <thoma1> How do I get a password out of my default keyring if I forget it?
[11:36] <rafkid> cripes im a n00b m8
[11:36] <sethk> Ratlump, that is strange.  I'm only making an educated guess about what's happening, of course.
[11:36] <hiffy> anyone?
[11:36] <Ratlump> Thanks for the tip, that sounds plausible.
[11:36] <chaos_> I suggest you get to know linux first
[11:36] <sethk> rafkid, I think perhaps you don't understand what server means in the unix world
[11:36] <rafkid> iv read stuff and got nowhere
[11:36] <sethk> rafkid, more accurately, in the other than microsoft world
[11:36] <rafkid> ur r right
[11:36] <chaos_> I dove right in to make a file server (which can be a print server) a few months ago and I was lost
[11:36] <sethk> rafkid, if you want a gui interface, install the desktop
[11:36] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, you can use xgl on ati
[11:37] <Ratlump> sethk: anyway, just thought maybe I missed something obvious about wireless settings.  Thanks!
[11:37] <B_166-ER-X> help ! i have a video capture device called DVDxpress DX2, and although it works under Windows, i wasnt able to make it work with ubuntu, any help would be appreciated, thankx :)   (i tried Wine, i tried Wine native..)
[11:37] <sethk> rafkid, either:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop            or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop     the second is KDE, the first gnome
[11:37] <xipietotec> HorIzon: I've got an Intel 825 chipset card
[11:37] <mrbrdo> the BCM43xx driver page says there is a new driver available "Another branch of this driver, based on the Devicescape 802.11 Stack".. is this driver already available to ubuntu users? already included in the kernel maybe?
[11:37] <thoma1> If I forget a password, and it's stored in the default keyring, is there any way to get it out?
[11:37] <chaos_> rafkid, download the latest ubuntu desktop image and try to do everything you do on windows on linux and you will learn quickly
[11:37] <djm62> Pests: I can't find any download link
[11:37] <sethk> rafkid, the server assumes you have a desktop machine that you will use to connect to the server and do whatever you need (or that you'll do it from the command line)
[11:37] <ucordes> anybody?
[11:37] <Pests> search google for "aim linux"
[11:38] <lupine_85> mrbrdo: that version of the 80211 stack only works with 2.6.17+ kernels
[11:38] <jnt30> anyone fairly versed in mounting SMBFS shares?
[11:38] <chaos_> CLI isn't very user-friendly if you don't know what to do
[11:38] <Pests> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp
[11:38] <lupine_85> so edgy, basically
[11:38] <Pests> and scrholl down
[11:38] <Hor|zon> xipietotec, yeah aiglx
[11:38] <sethk> rafkid, I think though that doing the desktop install will be easier for you.
[11:38] <sethk> rafkid, there is nothing in the server install that cannot also be installed with the desktop configuration
[11:38] <rafkid> ok - im comfortable with that advice - how do I get a server out of ubuntu learning on a desktop tho - wiull i get enough experince to do this?
[11:38] <sethk> rafkid, so go ahead and install the desktop, and learn about the o/s from there.
[11:38] <thoma1> If I forget a password, and it's stored in the default keyring, is there any way to get it out?
[11:38] <Eddie> anyone know of a good app for burning mp3s to music cds
[11:38] <chaos_> desktop is just another program, you can still install your servers with a desktop environment
[11:38] <Raz`> Hey guys, flash drive install crusade continues. my linux kernel is in \isolinux, but I'm booting with syslinux. Would that be a problem?
[11:39] <Eddie> Im turning down guaranteed sex to be with my linux box tonight - thats what you call commitment
[11:39] <sethk> rafkid, as I already said, there is nothing that the server does that you cannot also do from the desktop
[11:39] <rafkid> thanks for the advice seth and everybody else - im off to follow it
[11:39] <Gog123> this is sad
[11:39] <rafkid> will be back later in the month then
[11:39] <rafkid> cheers all
[11:39] <sethk> rafkid, the only difference is what packages are installed during installation, vs. what you (might) install later.
[11:39] <Gog123> Rob Levin has died.
[11:39] <lupine_85> eddie: weirdo ;)
[11:39] <TheBeast> die you fuckers! you and your crap OS!
[11:39] <chaos_> rafkid, you will get experience with how linux works as you use it. This will make tutorials on server configurations easier to follow.
[11:39] <djm62> Eddie: on one level, you're beyond help.  on another, serpentine audio CD creator ;)
[11:39] <Gog123> this is so sad
[11:39] <thoma1> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET A PASSWORD OUT OF THE DEFAULT KEYRING
[11:39] <sethk> thoma1, the keyring is very carefully constructed so that it is impossible to extract passwords from it.
[11:39] <Xal> oO
[11:39] <chaos_> Linux is incredibly more user-friendly than it used to be
[11:39] <lupine_85> thoma1: nope
[11:39] <Gog123> we are all on freenode and rob levin died
[11:40] <Xal> Come on, no need for caps
[11:40] <sethk> thoma1, only hashes are saved, not the actualy password.
[11:40] <rafkid> thanks all - understood now - thebeast is not so amusing
[11:40] <Eddie> djm62: knowing the female mind, it has its advantages
[11:40] <lupine_85> a reverse lookup "might" work, if you're lucky
[11:40] <thoma1> So, I can't get one out even if I know the password for the default key ring?
[11:40] <chaos_> Eddie, that's impossible
[11:40] <Eddie> djm62: next time she drops by, she'll take my attention a little more forcibly ;)
[11:40] <Raz`> where are the syslinux config files?
[11:40] <Raz`> maybe I can point it to my damn kernel
[11:40] <sethk> Raz`, syslinux is software for creating bootable floppies
[11:40] <fish1209_> thats sad about lilo passing away
[11:40] <sethk> Raz`, and bootable CDs in floppy emulation mode
[11:40] <Raz`> well, it's booting with it
[11:41] <Eddie> chaos_: true, can never know it completely
[11:41] <sethk> Raz`, so?
[11:41] <Raz`> on my flash drive when im trying to install it
[11:41] <Raz`> 'could not find kernel image'
[11:41] <Hor|zon> the keyrings are retarded...stay away from them if you can
[11:41] <Raz`> I can't get it to find the kernel.
[11:41] <sethk> Raz`, you are trying to boot from a flash drive?
[11:41] <Eddie> but take the whole treat em mean adage and modify it to treat them with indifference and youre onto a winner
[11:41] <Raz`> yes
[11:41] <hiffy> anyone here program in C in ubuntu?
[11:41] <chaos_> rafkid, I can guarantee you will become frustrated at least 20 times before you get what you want. But great happiness will follow ^_^. Stick with it!
[11:41] <thoma1> Xal: Wouldn't need caps if it were easier to get attention around here. fff
[11:41] <Raz`> I'm trying to boot from a flash drive, it's booting but can't locate the kernel
[11:41] <sethk> Raz`, you would have to change the boot configuration at the grub prompt
[11:41] <Raz`> how do I do that, seth? I'm currently in WinXP
[11:41] <sethk> Raz`, if you know where the kernel is, we can tell you how to boot it.
[11:41] <Xal> Meh, no one has to help.
[11:41] <sethk> hiffy, yes
[11:41] <chaos_> Raz, for the love of god, burn a cd
[11:41] <Raz`> it's in root\isolinux
[11:42] <Raz`> I HAVE NO CDS
[11:42] <Xal> Lol, it's a free "service"
[11:42] <Raz`> for the 10th damn time
[11:42] <Eddie> sux when that happens raz
[11:42] <chaos_> got feet?
[11:42] <chaos_> got money?
[11:42] <Eddie> got milk?
[11:42] <Raz`> I just need to point it to my kernel.
[11:42] <thoma1> Xal: OH WELL I JUST LIKE TALKING IN ALL CAPS THEN HOWS THAT
[11:42] <Raz`> that's all.
[11:42] <Eddie> tesco even deliver if youre in the UK
[11:42] <Xal> w/e
[11:42] <sethk> Raz`, I'm not sure how grub will refer to the flash drive.  possibly as (hd1), or (hd2), but it depends.
[11:42] <chaos_> thomal, please don't yell
[11:42] <lupine_85> usually sd*
[11:42] <Eddie> id say sda
[11:42] <sethk> Raz`, see if you have a file that maps grub IDs to device nodes
[11:42] <Raz`> well, where can I go to configure grub with WinXP, seth?
[11:42] <lupine_85> wow, the plonk is getting some usage today
[11:42] <chaos_> sda is sata
[11:42] <Eddie> at least thats what mine always come up as
[11:42] <sethk> Eddie, that's not useful for grub
[11:42] <thoma1> I'LL YELL IF I WANT TO THIS IS ME YELLING CAPS CAPS CAPS
[11:43] <Raz`> Let me look around
[11:43] <djm62> Raz`: you know you can get a CD sent to your house, for free, ready to boot?
[11:43] <rafkid> chaos_ - thanks for the advice
[11:43] <sethk> chalcedony, sda _may_ be sata.  or may not.
[11:43] <Raz`> Can I get that CD here in 15 minutes?
[11:43] <chaos_> np
[11:43] <rafkid> l8r dudes
[11:43] <Raz`> if so, let's do it.
[11:43] <Eddie> chaos: its also scsi
[11:43] <chaos_> have fun
[11:43] <Raz`> otherwise, I'm doing my flash drive.
[11:43] <sethk> Raz`, look for a file named "device.map"
[11:43] <hiffy> sethk: i was about to bother you about why ubuntu does not come with gcc, but i found the package that supposedly fixes my problems
[11:43] <Raz`> k, seth
[11:43] <Raz`> looking
[11:43] <lupine_85> sda is serial, sata, pata... basically anything != IDE
[11:43] <thoma1> CAPS IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
[11:43] <sethk> Raz`, it has a table in it showing which grub designation is which /dev designation.
[11:43] <djm62> thoma1: of course, you're entitled to be rude.  doesn't help you, but you can do it.
[11:43] <Raz`> rofl thoma
[11:43] <Raz`> that's gold
[11:43] <Hor|zon> Raz, relax tonight totally unstressed and go buy a CD in the morning... =_= you're gonna be there for ages
[11:43] <emo> how shall I run a program from my shell
[11:44] <Raz`> You learn through figuring stuff out. I will install ubuntu from this flash drive.
[11:44] <djm62> emo: type the name of the program
[11:44] <jrib> emo: usually just type its name
[11:44] <sethk> hiffy, it doesn't "come with" anything.  there are packages that are on the list of packages to be installed for a particular installation type.
[11:44] <chaos_> emo, a binary?
[11:44] <Hor|zon> lol Raz
[11:44] <chaos_> ./
[11:44] <thoma1> CAPS LOCK ISN'T RUDE IT'S COOL SEE WHATEVER I JUST SAID WAS LIKE IT WAS SAID BY 10 FOONZIES ALL HIGH ON CRACK
[11:44] <Raz`> and when I do, I shall be here, cruise controlling my success with caps.
[11:44] <chaos_> STOP TEH CAPZ PLZ!!11ELEVEN
[11:44] <sethk> hiffy, it makes no difference whether something is part of the default install set.  If it isn't, you install it afterwards.
[11:44] <hiffy> sethk: I'm just used to my distros coming with gcc and glibc.
[11:44] <SillyZ> CAPS = Kick/and Permaban imho
[11:44] <emo> djm62:yes
[11:44] <Ady01> I have problem with update
[11:44] <emo> chaos:yes
[11:44] <sethk> hiffy, you aren't listening.  It neither "comes with" it nor doesn't "come with" it.
[11:44] <thoma1> CAPS = COOL IMGO
[11:44] <Ady01> sudo apt-get update
[11:45] <Ady01> E: Malformed line 32 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[11:45] <djm62> emo: you might want to add "flags" or other parameters such as files to run the program with
[11:45] <Hor|zon> yes, caps don't help in a channel like this where there's so much going on at one time
[11:45] <Raz`> no device.map, seth
[11:45] <sethk> hiffy, it just is, or is not, on the list of packages for the install option you chose.
[11:45] <chaos_> emo, cd to the directory
[11:45] <sethk> hiffy, this is _exactly_ the same as all the other distros
[11:45] <jrib> Ady01: post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:45] <Hor|zon> it just bothers people and gets people lost
[11:45] <thoma1> CAPS SEEM TO GET NOTICED THOUGH
[11:45] <chaos_> ./<binary>
[11:45] <SillyZ> Hey Ops.... someone please kick/ban caps boy over here
[11:45] <sethk> hiffy, there are install options for fedora, slackware, etc., that do not install the compiler.
[11:45] <jrib> thoma1: it's not the right kind of attention...
[11:45] <hiffy> sethk: sorry mate. By come with, I mean, is a part of the default install options. I.e. the default package lists
[11:45] <Raz`> isolinux.cfg?
[11:45] <Hor|zon> shutup thoma1...please
[11:45] <hiffy> sethk: true enough
[11:45] <thoma1> JRIB: BETTER THAN NO ATTENTION
[11:45] <chaos_> not in this case
[11:45] <sethk> Raz`, isolinux.cfg is _only_ for creating a bootable cd
[11:46] <Raz`> ok
[11:46] <djm62> SillyZ: no point, as he says it gets attention.  therefore caps==ignored, and the problem goes away
[11:46] <SillyZ> thoma1 = troll   just /ignore thomal    done
[11:46] <sethk> Raz`, and has nothing to do with your present question.
[11:46] <Raz`> so, where would syslinux be looking for the boot config then>?
[11:46] <chaos_> I'd rather be unnoticed than look like a complete idiot
[11:46] <Raz`> I assume this is just a problem with the path
[11:46] <SillyZ> djm62: what i just said
[11:46] <Eddie> I hate kacpid
[11:46] <hiffy> chaos_: but then you dont learn anything
[11:46] <Eddie> with such a wild passion
[11:46] <thoma1> WELL WHEN I'M LOOKING FOR HELP I'D RATHER LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT THAN BE COMPLETLY UNNOTICED
[11:46] <ipeeps> ot: anybody inside a university network who can download an acm full text paper for me.help appreciated.
[11:46] <thelsdj> whats a good safe kernel vga mode? i can't read the kernel messages as it boots cause video is screwed up
[11:46] <chaos_> I learned plenty without touching caps
[11:46] <sethk> Raz`, I already told you.  you need to find out how grub refers to the flash drive.  then you can enter the required    root   and     kernel     commands at the grub prompt
[11:46] <Renan_s2> thoma1, you don't need caps at all
[11:46] <sethk> Raz`, might also need an    initrd       command
[11:46] <thelsdj> or how do i disable changing vga at all?
[11:47] <sethk> Raz`, then you can boot.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> thoma1: dont use caps please
[11:47] <djm62> SillyZ: as opposed to kickban which is crude and will spur people to get into childish retaliations
[11:47] <chaos_> I learned Linux through freenode ^^
[11:47] <Raz`> so where is grub?
[11:47] <emo> chaos: sorry man I lost it...
[11:47] <Eddie> I MOLEST SOCKS IN MY BED AT NIGHT, MY LAUNDRY BASKET IS A CRUSTY GRAVEYARD
[11:47] <Raz`> It might not be installed on here.
[11:47] <Gog123> chaos_:  And Rob Levin founded it right?
[11:47] <Gog123> he died today :(
[11:47] <hiffy> sethk: perhaps i simply cannot remember what the install options were, or if they included any programming options (Im sure i would've clicked those). build-essential seems to have done the trick tho
[11:47] <Raz`> maybe i should install grub onto my flash drive, then just copy over the iso onto it?
[11:47] <chaos_> Eddie, no
[11:47] <thoma1> EDDIE THAT WAS A VERY APT THING TO SAY SHALL I REQUEST ANOTHER?
[11:47] <Gog123> rob levin's death is sad
[11:47] <chaos_> didn't he die on the 12th?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> thoma1: stop with the caps
[11:47] <sethk> thelsdj, if you create an X config file with only one valid mode, than that is the only mode that will be used.  I'd use 800x600, not 640x480, because I doubt you'll run into any monitor these days that can't handle 800x600
[11:47] <Gog123> chaos_ I just found out today, says the 16th in wikipedia
[11:47] <gnomefreak> chaos_: 16th and offtopic please
[11:48] <sethk> Raz`, depends on what you mean by that.  The first part of grub is on the MBR of the boot drive.  the rest can be anywhere.
[11:48] <chaos_> RIP
[11:48] <sethk> Raz`, typically on the hard drive, but not necessarily
[11:48] <Raz`> well, I doubt grub is in the MBR of my flash drive since al I've done to it is extract the iso onto it.
[11:48] <Raz`> right?
[11:48] <thoma1> THIS IS A STORY
[11:48] <hiffy> thanks anyways folks.
[11:48] <thoma1> ALL ABOUT HOW MY LIFE GOT FLIPPED TURNED UPSIDE
[11:48] <chaos_> please dont thomal
[11:48] <sethk> Raz`, yes, that's good reasoning
[11:48] <Raz`> so I should install grub manually, THEN copy the iso. I guess.
[11:48] <Raz`> I'll try that.
[11:48] <thelsdj> sethk: i'm talking about console vga, X works fine, but before X starts i can't read console because vga mode seems screwed up
[11:48] <sethk> Raz`, that's a reasonable plan, yes
[11:48] <chaos_> this channel needs ops
[11:49] <Raz`> k, lemme work on it.
[11:49] <DBO> there are ops chaos_
[11:49] <Raz`> thanks for the help
[11:49] <gnomefreak> chaos_: no it doesnt
[11:49] <sethk> thelsdj, oh, look in your grub config file, and take out an   vga=   parameters
[11:49] <chaos_> gnomefreak, you like thomal?
[11:49] <sethk> s/an/any/
[11:49] <gnomefreak> chaos_: why do you ask?>
[11:49] <chaos_> because no one else does?
[11:49] <sethk> thelsdj, if that causes problems, then use:        vga=ask
[11:49] <Eddie> more than he likes me anyway, evidently ;)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> chaos_: liking has nothing to do with support
[11:49] <thelsdj> sethk: ok thanks
[11:49] <sethk> thelsdj, which will do about what you would expect from the name
[11:49] <djm62> d'oh, I just found the AIM page but Pests has gone :-(
[11:49] <mad_man> i is booting 4 o/s. i wish to delete one. what troubles will i have ? like with MBR/grub or anything else ?
[11:50] <grubic> Hey there.  Quick question.  Where is the "download" directory for the X-Chat program?  Never used Ubuntu before.  Not used to it.
[11:50] <chaos_> no, i dont have to like some one to tolerate them... but I can't even tolerate thomal
[11:50] <Eddie> grubic: homedir i think
[11:50] <Eddie> grubic: you mean for DCC receives?
[11:50] <xipietotec> grrr....I can't seem to write the damn aiglx-compiz repository correctly
[11:50] <grubic> yes.
[11:50] <gnomefreak> chaos_: this is not the plass for this topic
[11:50] <Tonren> grubic: A good way to look for files: sudo updatedb; locate somefile
[11:50] <gnomefreak> place*
[11:50] <Hor|zon> lol
[11:51] <Raz`> I guess grub comes on the boot sector of the ubuntu iso...hmm
[11:51] <chaos_> gnomefreak, agreed. <3?
[11:51] <sethk> grubic, there is a file download section of the xchat install
[11:51] <sethk> grubic, sorry, the xchat configuration
[11:51] <xipietotec> it says I should do this: deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper but I get a malformed line (Parse error)
[11:51] <mattsta> how do I use wine
[11:51] <sethk> grubic, settings, preferences, then look for file download
[11:51] <Eddie> serpentine is slow
[11:51] <mad_man> !wine
[11:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:51] <__krugger__> Anyone knows how to regenerate the xkb directory files? The .dir files in /etc/X11/xkb?
[11:52] <sethk> grubic, sorry again, file transfers
[11:52] <Raz`> seth, if I extract the boot sector from the cd and get it on my flash drive, would that take care of getting grub on it?
[11:52] <sethk> Raz`, no
[11:52] <grubic> sethk: ahh there it is.  Thanks a bunch
[11:52] <chaos_> ooo, going for chinese tonight! :D
[11:52] <grubic> sethk: can't believe I didn't see that option
[11:52] <Raz`> what else is missing, then? When I just extract the files, i'm missing the boot sector, and what else?
[11:52] <sethk> Raz`, nothing else
[11:52] <Raz`> so it should work, then?
[11:52] <Raz`> extract the boot sector, then extract the iso's files
[11:52] <__krugger__> Raz, don't you need BIOS support to boot of USB?
[11:52] <sethk> Raz`, once you can get to a grub prompt, then yes
[11:52] <Raz`> and that'll make a complete copy of the CD to boot from the flash drive
[11:52] <Raz`> booting is not an issue, krug
[11:53] <xipietotec> anyone help with that? why am I getting a parse error when the guide tells me to use this? deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[11:53] <djm62> xipietotec: what guide? URL?
[11:53] <Gumby> does anyone know what the command line X setup program is called and which package contains it?
[11:53] <xipietotec> http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[11:53] <Eddie> if only he had a cd rofl
[11:53] <sethk> Raz`, everything in the file system is simply a file, nothing special, so you can copy from any media (like a cd) to any other media (like a hard drive)
[11:53] <mad_man> i is booting 4 o/s. i wish to delete one. what troubles will i have ? like with MBR/grub or anything else ?
[11:53] <sethk> Raz`, or, in your case, from your flash drive to your hard drive (If I understand what you are doing)
[11:53] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:53] <Eddie> Gumby: xf86conf I think
[11:53] <Raz`> yea
[11:53] <Raz`> that's right
[11:53] <sethk> mad_man, you don't have to touch the mbr
[11:53] <Raz`> If I get the boot sector onto the flash drive, it should work
[11:54] <chaos_> does firestarter work in dapper or is there some other package?
[11:54] <sethk> Raz`, yes.
[11:54] <__krugger__> mad_man just don't delete the partition where the grub files are in :)
[11:54] <sethk> Raz`, that's essentially what a rescue cd or floppy does
[11:54] <djm62> xipietotec: that is a slow website (or the web is being slow for me today).  in any case that line looks malformed to me too, there should be another bit after "dapper"
[11:54] <Hor|zon> sethk, that's not exactly true, you might need to tar it if the media doesn't support the permissions, right?
[11:54] <Ady01> I fix it, thanks jr...
[11:55] <sethk> Hor|zon, I was assuming that it supports permissions, that's true.
[11:55] <Gumby> Eddie: any idea what package that belongs to?
[11:55] <gimmulf> Why doesnt this work?: sudo mount /mnt/hdb2 /dev/hdb2  error: mount: you must specify the filesystem type, but its a normal ext2 partition, what am i doing worong?
[11:55] <mad_man> sethk:  __krugger__: thank you
[11:55] <xipietotec> do you know of another repository for aiglx?
[11:55] <sethk> Hor|zon, and tar or cpio is a good way to work around that, if permissions are not supported
[11:55] <djm62> gimmulf: mount -t ext2 then all the rest
[11:56] <chaos_> -t ext2
[11:56] <__krugger__> gimmulf swap the arguments
[11:56] <chaos_> oh you beat me dj
[11:56] <chaos_> *glares*
[11:56] <Gumby> gimmulf: you have your syntax mixed up.  its /dev/xxx and then your mount/point
[11:56] <Raz`> omg, mkbt doesn't 'support' anything but floppies
[11:56] <Raz`> argh
[11:56] <sethk> gimmulf, both what __krugger__ said and what several people said about -t ext2
[11:56] <sethk> gimmulf, there is nothing "normal" about ext2.   there is no default file system type.
[11:57] <unf> is it posible to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[11:57] <chaos_> probably
[11:57] <jrib> unf: yes
[11:57] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:57] <sethk> gimmulf, you can use    -t auto      and mount will frequently figure out the file system type
[11:57] <djm62> informally, how much of a performance hit would I get if I encrypted /home on my laptop?
[11:57] <Gumby> its /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2 not /mnt/hdb2 /dev/hdb2
[11:57] <mad_man> __krugger__: and QTParted will do the trick for deleting a partition ?
[11:57] <sethk> djm62, likely nothing perceptable
[11:57] <Gumby> if he gets that correct it will probably auto detect the filesystem type
[11:57] <unf> im trying to, but i get problems with some dependencies (the most importat is upstart, that doest install because init system is already installed)
[11:57] <lnxmad> Ubuntu is the best distirb. i have been on
[11:58] <marshall> lnxmad: yup
[11:58] <sethk> djm62, unless you put a lot of stuff in your $HOME that typically wouldn't be there, then it could be higher.
[11:58] <marshall> i just installed vmware player with automatix and i want to know how to start my windows partition with it
[11:58] <unf> jrib, have you done it?
[11:58] <thelsdj> where do i set what dirs get created in /var/run?
[11:58] <__krugger__> mad_man think so though I have never used it
[11:58] <thelsdj> appears that dir for screen isn't being created
[11:58] <Raz`> ok, I have the boot sector pulled out with BBIE. How would I install it onto my flash drive?
[11:58] <lnxmad> is very easy and user friendly
[11:58] <sethk> thelsdj, create it.  should be created when screen is installed
[11:58] <jrib> unf: I have, but it is still being developed so bugs and breakage are quite possible
[11:58] <djm62> sethk: not planning on anything industrial- the highest disk activity would be mp3 and video files
[11:58] <thelsdj> sethk: i created it last boot, does't come back
[11:58] <chaos_> can't wait till the Linux X-Fi drivers are released
[11:58] <sethk> djm62, well, for video files it might be significant
[11:59] <sethk> djm62, depends on your cpu of course, on any other load on the machine, etc., etc.
[11:59] <thelsdj> seems /var/run is a tmpfs that is created on boot
[11:59] <mad_man> __krugger__: any orther suggestions for a program that i can have a look see for this job ?
[11:59] <unf> jrib, no problem with it, its my desktop and i have nothing to lose (morover i have my HOME in another partition)
[11:59] <sethk> thelsdj, unless you are using an in memory file system, that doesn't make much sense
[11:59] <jrib> unf: ok but #ubuntu+1 is the proper channel for edgy
[11:59] <unf> ok, thank you!
[12:00] <thelsdj> sethk: varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[12:00] <Gumby> anyone know what package the command xf86conf (or maybe XF86Conf) belong to?
[12:00] <__krugger__> mad_man: I usually use fdisk to delete, but parted or any other can do it
[12:00] <sethk> thelsdj, ok, then there is a cpio archive that you will need to add it to.
[12:00] <__krugger__> mad_man: you are not trying to resize are you?
[12:00] <sethk> thelsdj, tmpfs is an in memory file system
[12:00] <mad_man> __krugger__: thank you for your help and input