GNUrante | kwwii: ok, no problem! | 12:11 |
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Tm_T | oh man | 12:14 |
Tm_T | someone should be glad I'm not op in #ubuntu+1 | 12:14 |
DaSkreech | Sup? | 12:19 |
Tm_T | nothing | 12:21 |
jdong | wow... just heard about lilo..... | 12:33 |
jdong | RIP..... | 12:33 |
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jdong | and to think I was just about to go for a bike ride or jog.... | 12:40 |
DaSkreech | That sucks | 12:40 |
jdong | yeah, it does suck | 12:42 |
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DaSkreech | Some guy is complaining about Steve irwin on the chan | 01:05 |
Riddell | which channel? | 01:05 |
DaSkreech | #freenode-announce | 01:06 |
DaSkreech | WEnt to 1025 users a while back | 01:06 |
DaSkreech | It's crazy trying to get people to stop making fun if lilo etc | 01:07 |
DaSkreech | of | 01:07 |
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DaSkreech | Hawkwind: They have two lilo chans now? | 01:51 |
Hawkwind | There is lilo-memorial which was +m til just a few seconds ago | 01:52 |
DaSkreech | Right they just +m again | 01:53 |
claydoh | wow, thats sad news :( | 01:56 |
DaSkreech | Yeah | 01:56 |
claydoh | I actually chatted with him a little back when there was a #lycoris chan | 01:56 |
claydoh | had no clew who he was either:) | 01:57 |
DaSkreech | I always thought he was a bot so I sent him a saucy reply one day and we been chatting since then | 01:57 |
claydoh | :) | 01:58 |
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bddebian | Howdy | 02:03 |
DaSkreech | hi | 02:09 |
bddebian | Heya DaSkreech | 02:15 |
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DaSkreech | I do my best | 02:16 |
kwwii | night all | 02:21 |
DaSkreech | night | 02:21 |
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DaSkreech | Hawkwind: Though this should pretty much be done here :) | 03:00 |
DaSkreech | !noob | 03:10 |
ubotu | Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. | 03:10 |
DaSkreech | Ah ok so Woot is allowed :) | 03:10 |
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DaSkreech | Hobbsee Hello Hobbs | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | hey DaSkreech | 03:14 |
DaSkreech | Ok | 03:15 |
DaSkreech | Mykeyboardjustwentaywire | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 03:16 |
Hobbsee | better that than your mouse. maybe | 03:16 |
DaSkreech | WellowdoIaskforelp? | 03:16 |
DaSkreech | acknoJ++ | 03:17 |
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DaSkreech | Welltatworkedwonders | 03:29 |
DaSkreech | Tisprettymucsootsworkforterestofteday | 03:32 |
DaSkreech | right | 03:34 |
DaSkreech | and it suddenly starts working again | 03:34 |
DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Did you know lilo? | 03:38 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: not really | 03:44 |
DaSkreech | OK. Well you did hear he is dead? | 03:44 |
Hobbsee | yes | 03:47 |
DaSkreech | Alright :( | 03:48 |
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Lathiat | damn.. knot3 kubuntu boots fast | 04:49 |
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bddebian | Gah, I'm drawing a blank. What is the kubuntu package manager thingy called again? | 07:23 |
bddebian | It is 1:30am after all and I'm old :-( | 07:24 |
Jucato | Adept | 07:24 |
bddebian | Thx Jucato | 07:24 |
Jucato | no problem | 07:24 |
Jucato | prof... :P | 07:24 |
bddebian | pfft, yeah right :) | 07:25 |
Jucato | heh | 07:27 |
jsgotangco | pfft | 07:27 |
jsgotangco | excuses excuses bddebian | 07:27 |
Jucato | pfft | 07:27 |
jsgotangco | hmm why does sysinitv still want to be installed hrmmm | 07:28 |
bddebian | Heya jsgotangco :) | 07:29 |
jsgotangco | hey | 07:31 |
Jucato | changing Konversation's default "server" settings to irc.ubuntu.com (which really just points to freenode)... lilo dying... quite ironic... :( | 07:31 |
jsgotangco | lilo was great, he was always avaialble during the ubuntu irc communitys formative years | 07:33 |
imbrandon | ello everyone | 07:41 |
Jucato | hi imbrandon! :) | 07:42 |
bddebian | Heya imbrandon | 07:42 |
imbrandon | wow some people have no respect ( in #freenode-announce ) | 07:42 |
Jucato | why? what are they saying? | 07:42 |
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seaLne | imbrandon: i'm sure it hasn't got any better in the last 9 hours, it was a weird mixture of comments when it was announced | 08:05 |
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imbrandon | heya Hobbsee , and raphink | 09:19 |
Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 09:20 |
imbrandon | see the news about lilo ? | 09:20 |
imbrandon | sucks | 09:20 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 09:20 |
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mornfall | morning | 09:32 |
Hobbsee | hey mornfall! | 09:33 |
mornfall | the times are bad... i'm wondering how long will they last | 09:34 |
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Hobbsee | :( | 09:36 |
Tm_T | moin | 09:40 |
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fdoving | wow.. disabling anti-aliasing made KDE alot faster. | 10:34 |
mornfall | are you sure? | 10:57 |
mornfall | in what respect? | 10:58 |
mornfall | if it's things like konsole redraw | 10:58 |
mornfall | or window switch redraw | 10:58 |
mornfall | then i'd blame the graphics driver | 10:58 |
Tm_T | aye | 11:08 |
Tm_T | I noticed no difference in speed, lot more ugly it was =) | 11:08 |
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mornfall | make sure your render is accelerated as it should ;-) | 11:31 |
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fdoving | mornfall: i actually have left aa on in konsole. but everything else, except desktop icons and window titles are without.. and it feels alot faster. | 11:42 |
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fdoving | kmail is the big winner here. | 11:43 |
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kwwii | moin | 12:41 |
Hobbsee | hey kwwii | 12:42 |
kwwii | howdy Hobbsee | 12:42 |
kwwii | it seems the ksplash package that we finished yesterday is b0rked | 12:43 |
kwwii | :-( | 12:43 |
Hobbsee | about how it's full screened? | 12:44 |
imbrandon | about how you cant see the middle box | 12:44 |
imbrandon | i noticed that a bit ago | 12:45 |
imbrandon | fun, lightning / power storms here now | 12:46 |
imbrandon | sounds like a fskin tonado outside | 12:46 |
imbrandon | tornado | 12:47 |
ajmitch | who here cares & loves for digikam? | 12:47 |
Hobbsee | you do | 12:47 |
ajmitch | no, I take care of f-spot | 12:47 |
imbrandon | i like it, i use it semi oftern ( to get pics of my camera ) why ? | 12:47 |
ajmitch | but I just uploaded a libgphoto2 change that could affect digikam | 12:47 |
Hobbsee | oh, digikam... that'd be toma or allee | 12:47 |
kwwii | Hobbsee: yes, exactly, that is not how it was meant to be | 12:47 |
Hobbsee | they're the debian-type people too | 12:47 |
ajmitch | so if there are issues about importing, etc, tell me :) | 12:48 |
imbrandon | ajmitch, okes | 12:48 |
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imbrandon | ajmitch, i'll try it out once it hits the archive | 12:48 |
ajmitch | thanks | 12:48 |
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ajmitch | yeah, I have to charge mine too | 12:50 |
ajmitch | it was annoying taking photos the other night & having the battery warning show up :) | 12:50 |
imbrandon | heh | 12:50 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: and get rid of the horrible pictures on yours :P | 12:50 |
imbrandon | lol | 12:51 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: what horrible photos? :) | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: the ones of me. | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | in the food court | 12:52 |
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Hobbsee | with yagisan. | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: have you forgotten my comment, and then kicking yagisan under the table? | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | *that* day | 12:53 |
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ajmitch | not at all :) | 12:53 |
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Hobbsee | heh | 12:53 |
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imbrandon | ;) | 12:53 |
=== ryanakca_ just had konversation crash... handy dandy KDE Crash Handler pops up... but I get the problem of "(no debugging symbols found)" | ||
abattoir | ryanakca: might need to install gdb | 12:56 |
ryanakca | abattoir: it's been installed for ages... | 12:56 |
ryanakca | abattoir: hmmm... | 12:56 |
Tm_T | ryanakca: then install knetwork-dbg or so | 12:57 |
ryanakca | I wonder if the packages ./configure gets passed the --debugging (or something simillar) option at build... | 12:57 |
imbrandon | ryanakca, konversation-dbg ? | 12:57 |
ryanakca | ah... os it's inthere? | 12:57 |
Tm_T | konversation-dbg - debugging symbols for konversation | 12:57 |
ryanakca | morning typing... so it's in there :) | 12:57 |
imbrandon | konversation - user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE | 12:57 |
imbrandon | konversation-dbg - debugging symbols for konversation | 12:57 |
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Hobbsee | Tm_T: check the description of kdenetwork-dbg | 12:58 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: ok | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | oh, i thought it said more than that | 12:59 |
Tm_T | :p | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | it doesnt have symbols for much | 12:59 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, but konversation doesnt get built as part of kdenetwork ( like kopete ) | 12:59 |
Tm_T | help.ubuntu.com is stuck | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | indeed | 01:00 |
imbrandon | most of the time its <package>-bdg though ryanakca | 01:00 |
imbrandon | err -dbg | 01:00 |
ryanakca | yeah... and why isn't -dbg installed as a dependency of <package>? or just made into one great big package | 01:01 |
imbrandon | becouse that would be silly, why would you "normaly" want to install that | 01:01 |
imbrandon | why strip them out and them make it a dependabce | 01:02 |
Hobbsee | it would also cause a circular dependancy, which is a Bad Thing (tm) | 01:02 |
ryanakca | meh... you win :P | 01:02 |
Hobbsee | ryanakca: of course the other reason: cd space | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | kdebase-dbg kdelibs-dbg kdepim-dbg kdeutils-dbg | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | Need to get 116MB of archives. | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | After unpacking 326MB of additional disk space will be used. | 01:03 |
imbrandon | and the fact that 99% of the time they arent needed | 01:04 |
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=== ryanakca made konversation crash again... go /dcc chat nick ... krash... *waits as -dbg is installed* | ||
ryanakca | brb, once again | 01:07 |
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ryanakca | got the backtrace :) | 01:10 |
ryanakca | imbrandon: mind sending a /dcc chat request to me? see if recieving one makes me crash? I know sending one to my bot did... | 01:16 |
=== Hobbsee wonders how that works | ||
imbrandon | i cant sorry, i have dcc disabled at the router level | 01:17 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee might be able to | 01:17 |
=== imbrandon pokes her | ||
Hobbsee | hmm...timeout | 01:17 |
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ryanakca | [07:13] [DCC] Establishing DCC Chat connection to Hobbsee (hobbseesip:50576)... | 01:18 |
ryanakca | [07:13] [Error] Connection broken, error code 10. | 01:18 |
imbrandon | lol | 01:18 |
Hobbsee | i suspect it's disabled here too | 01:18 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, you have a router/firewall ? it probably is | 01:18 |
imbrandon | it is by default most of the time | 01:18 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: yep | 01:18 |
imbrandon | dcc's are dangerous to me, i just use ftp/web/email | 01:18 |
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imbrandon | why not build commands into the bot ') | 01:19 |
imbrandon | like %whoami | 01:19 |
imbrandon | %whoami | 01:19 |
ubotu | imbrandon | 01:19 |
imbrandon | ;) | 01:19 |
ryanakca | no, administration stuff... | 01:19 |
imbrandon | and ? | 01:19 |
ryanakca | like .die... (and yes, kill -9 works... but it messes stuff up) | 01:20 |
imbrandon | query's work | 01:20 |
imbrandon | ask Seveas , about %quit etc all his commands are part of the bot | 01:20 |
imbrandon | join part quit restart reload etc | 01:20 |
ryanakca | and he runs what again? supybot? | 01:20 |
imbrandon | i think he coded them himself in python | 01:21 |
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imbrandon | dunno | 01:21 |
ryanakca | ouch... *gulps* | 01:21 |
imbrandon | still better than buggy, insecure dcc ;) | 01:21 |
ryanakca | yes | 01:21 |
imbrandon | i hope the power dont go out, its raining hard here now | 01:22 |
Seveas | imbrandon, supybot | 01:22 |
Hobbsee | hey Seveas | 01:22 |
Seveas | I only coded the plugins | 01:22 |
imbrandon | ahh ;) | 01:22 |
Seveas | hey Sarah | 01:22 |
Hobbsee | .... | 01:23 |
Hobbsee | Seveas: started using my real name now, hey? | 01:23 |
imbrandon | hehe | 01:23 |
ryanakca | lol | 01:23 |
imbrandon | sudo /etc/init.d/tleds reload | 01:24 |
imbrandon | gah | 01:24 |
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imbrandon | restart anyhow bleh | 01:24 |
ryanakca | it's painful... and we're offtopic, *gulps* | 01:24 |
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=== imbrandon points her to start thinking of a good hostname NOW for her new coreduo ;) | ||
=== Ubugtu takes that pointy thing and throws it into orbit | ||
ryanakca | lol | 01:25 |
imbrandon | hahaha | 01:25 |
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ryanakca | s/hey/her | 01:25 |
ryanakca | Ubugtu: I tried that once... wasn't pretty | 01:25 |
Ubugtu | ryanakca: pointy thing == Hobbsee | 01:25 |
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Hobbsee | haha | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: for her new coreduo? oh yes. i dont get that for a while though. | 01:26 |
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imbrandon | exactly and your stuck with sarah@sarah~$ for tooo long | 01:26 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: hehe, why? | 01:27 |
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Seveas | *crash* | 01:27 |
Hobbsee | sarah@longpointystickofdoom? | 01:27 |
Hobbsee | hahahaha | 01:27 |
ryanakca | lol | 01:27 |
imbrandon | haha | 01:27 |
Seveas | you didn't throw hard enough | 01:27 |
Hobbsee | Seveas: that'll teach you to mess with the master | 01:27 |
Seveas | I came crashing back | 01:27 |
Hobbsee | i'm a girl, i cant. | 01:27 |
Seveas | true | 01:27 |
imbrandon | lol @ Seveas | 01:27 |
=== Hobbsee wonders if she can make the hostnamethat long | ||
=== Seveas names his machins after airplanes | ||
Seveas | this thing is mirage | 01:28 |
imbrandon | wow i think the rain is gonna start comming inside, /me gos to look for satalight photos on the web | 01:28 |
Hobbsee | what...a car? | 01:28 |
ryanakca | dunno *googles it* | 01:28 |
imbrandon | airplane | 01:28 |
imbrandon | mine are all ST ships | 01:29 |
imbrandon | ;) | 01:29 |
Hobbsee | a mirage is a model of car here | 01:29 |
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ryanakca | ryan@longpointystickofdoom:~$ | 01:29 |
ryanakca | Hobbsee: sudo hostname newhostname | 01:29 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, yea with 2 simple changes | 01:29 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, just change it in /etc/hostname ( the only thing in the file ) and in /etc/hosts ( next to 127.0.0.1 ) | 01:30 |
imbrandon | reboot then your golden | 01:30 |
imbrandon | ryanakca, that breaks sometimes | 01:30 |
imbrandon | better to do it manulay | 01:30 |
ryanakca | imbrandon: doesn't the hostname command do that as well? or does it only change /etc/hostname | 01:30 |
ryanakca | ah | 01:30 |
imbrandon | it dosent change /etc/hosts so it breaks sudo | 01:31 |
imbrandon | as sudo wants to lookup the hostname for some reason to make it match | 01:31 |
imbrandon | or some such | 01:31 |
ryanakca | odd | 01:31 |
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=== ryanakca is backing up and making a fresh install... | ||
imbrandon | s/bzip2/gzip | 01:32 |
ryanakca | doesn't compress as much, does it? | 01:33 |
imbrandon | i dunno i just dont like bz2 archives | 01:33 |
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ryanakca | I'm figuring... 30min for 2.3gb of music... translates to... 2-3 hours across the network... and then back when edgy is installed... | 01:35 |
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Riddell | imbrandon: did the amarok patches get uploaded? | 01:39 |
imbrandon | Riddell, yea | 01:40 |
Riddell | great, thanks | 01:40 |
imbrandon | last night sometime | 01:41 |
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Hobbsee | sarah@LongPointyStickOfDoom:~$ echo Boo | 01:43 |
Hobbsee | Boo | 01:43 |
Hobbsee | sarah@LongPointyStickOfDoom:~$ | 01:43 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: ryanakca ^ | 01:43 |
abattoir | Riddell: http://muse.19inch.net/~abattoir/shots/error.png | 01:43 |
ryanakca | lol :) | 01:43 |
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Riddell | abattoir: hmm | 01:43 |
imbrandon | GAH OMFG | 01:43 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, i hope there isnt anything on voyager you need, i'm gonna take this opertunity to relead it with a fresh knot3 | 01:44 |
ryanakca | I thought a hostname needed to be allinlowercase... | 01:44 |
imbrandon | Seveas, ping | 01:44 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: give me a sec to check | 01:44 |
abattoir | Riddell: the first time oem-config-gtk was installed... | 01:44 |
Hobbsee | ryanakca: seems not | 01:44 |
imbrandon | heh | 01:44 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, i'm on battery power from my laptop atm , power just went out and bored my fs i think, i'm gonna take the opertunity to reload it | 01:44 |
abattoir | Riddell: the next time, i didnt select 'kubuntu desktop'(dont remember the option correctly), that time oem-config-kde was installed | 01:44 |
imbrandon | ryanakca, no it just makes it easier | 01:45 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: yeah, it's not ssh'able, it seems. | 01:45 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: it should be fine | 01:45 |
Hobbsee | i dont think i had anything major on there | 01:45 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, yea power is out here the server is running on USP and i'm on my laptop | 01:45 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: want to just ls /home/sarah for me? | 01:45 |
Hobbsee | and ls /home/sarah/TODO? | 01:46 |
imbrandon | ummm fs is borked hehe i can try to save it, it was the reasson i was just gonna do a fresh install | 01:46 |
Hobbsee | er, s%sarah%hobbsee% | 01:46 |
Hobbsee | well, yeah. ahhh, so you cant access it at all. that's finfe | 01:46 |
imbrandon | yea i get a kernel panic on boot, thus a good time to install knot3 | 01:47 |
imbrandon | ;) | 01:47 |
imbrandon | ( once the power is back on ) | 01:47 |
abattoir | Riddell: the second time, when oem-config-kde *was* installed, i got this when trying 'sudo oem-config' | 01:47 |
Riddell | abattoir: didn't select where? | 01:47 |
abattoir | Riddell: during installation, it asks something about the desktop which you want to install(sorry dont remember the correct name) | 01:47 |
abattoir | Riddell: the only option was kubuntu | 01:48 |
imbrandon | software select screen iirc | 01:48 |
abattoir | Riddell: fish://abattoir@muse.19inch.net/home/abattoir/public_html/shots/error1.png | 01:48 |
abattoir | oops | 01:48 |
abattoir | Riddell: http://muse.19inch.net/~abattoir/shots/error1.png | 01:48 |
Riddell | accessibility doesn't work either, so I need to do some installation options testing | 01:49 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: gotcha. | 01:50 |
abattoir | Riddell: hmmm, just checked /usr/sbin/oem-config doesnt have kde-ui | 01:50 |
abattoir | Riddell: i thought Kamion said he'd add it | 01:50 |
abattoir | Riddell: shall i ask him? | 01:51 |
Tm_T | I'm having hard time to find any reasonable way to change default booting kernel, some easy newb way it should be | 01:51 |
Riddell | oem-config-kde_1.2_all.deb is definately on the CD | 01:52 |
imbrandon | Riddell, when i uploaded amarok too i changed install-mp3 a bit to use lsb_release -sc as opposed to just assuming dapper | 01:52 |
Riddell | Tm_T: write us a guidance module for grub setup then :) | 01:52 |
Riddell | imbrandon: nice | 01:52 |
abattoir | Riddell: yes, its on the CD and was installed the second time(see the screen shot) | 01:52 |
abattoir | Riddell: /usr/sbin/oem-config is missing 'kde-ui' | 01:52 |
Tm_T | Riddell: that's what I'm thinking, we need such thing | 01:53 |
Tm_T | Riddell: guidance is pyhton/ruby/c++ ? | 01:53 |
Tm_T | or all of that? :p | 01:53 |
fabo | Tm_T: python/c++ | 01:53 |
Tm_T | roger | 01:54 |
Riddell | mostly python | 01:54 |
_Sime_ | tiny bit of C. | 01:55 |
Tm_T | ok, time to learn python then ;) | 01:55 |
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fabo | libpythonize is C ? | 01:55 |
imbrandon | can someone paste me the url for the x86 knot3 desktop iso ( kubuntu ) so i can wget it , sorry i'm stuck at console atm | 01:56 |
Riddell | w3m is your friend :) | 01:56 |
imbrandon | ;) | 01:56 |
Tm_T | but I won't be able to do it for months yet, I'm planning to get back hacking in december | 01:56 |
Riddell | err, doh, I should put knot 3 on kubuntu.org | 01:56 |
Riddell | http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-3/edgy-desktop-i386.iso | 01:57 |
abattoir | Riddell: should i ask Kamion to modify /usr/sbin/oem-config ? | 01:57 |
abattoir | Riddell: or rather oem-config, which goes there | 01:57 |
fabo | is it faster to ask for a sync or be sponsored ? | 01:59 |
Riddell | abattoir: yes, looks like it needs it | 01:59 |
Riddell | although kamion doesn't like working weekends :) | 01:59 |
imbrandon | Riddell, thanks | 01:59 |
abattoir | ok, i'll catch him tomorrow then | 01:59 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: heh. no idea why :P | 02:00 |
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Riddell | abattoir: hmm, having oem-config not depend on metacity would be nice | 02:00 |
abattoir | Riddell: i think he did the control file as well | 02:01 |
abattoir | Riddell: i dont know why it does, i'll ask him | 02:03 |
imbrandon | fabo, for what , normaly syncs dont need a sponsor ( other than maybe an "ack" on the LP bug | 02:11 |
imbrandon | ) | 02:11 |
imbrandon | ahhh power is back on ...... | 02:12 |
imbrandon | man that sucked, but i guess it gives me a chance for a clean install | 02:12 |
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imbrandon | ello apachelogger | 02:12 |
Hobbsee | hey apachelogger | 02:13 |
fabo | imbrandon: new strigi release | 02:13 |
imbrandon | if it is a sync ( no changes needed ) then Hobbsee can point you at the proceedure for filing a bug on LP to get it synced | 02:14 |
imbrandon | if its a merge then its a bit diffrent | 02:14 |
apachelogger | ahoy imbrandon and Hobbsee | 02:14 |
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fabo | i know the procedure, just i want to know what is the faster way :) | 02:14 |
imbrandon | well there is only one way depending on what is needed i guess is what i'm saying ;) | 02:15 |
fabo | ok so sync is LP :) | 02:15 |
imbrandon | yea take the debian version and build it etc etc etc and file the bug on LP and get a MOTU ( core-dev if its main ) to ack it | 02:16 |
imbrandon | ok brb afk while i re-install voyager, man i need some cd-rw's i go though cd's too fast | 02:16 |
Hobbsee | and file the UVF exception, if it's in main... | 02:16 |
imbrandon | and have good reason etc etc etc hehehehe ok really gone | 02:17 |
imbrandon | man i really dident wanna do this today | 02:17 |
fabo | rah i need a simplified procedure ;) | 02:17 |
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Hobbsee | fabo: make sure you subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors so we can ack all of your syncs | 02:18 |
imbrandon | motu-revu not sponsors ( as there is nothing to sponsor ) | 02:19 |
imbrandon | motu-reviewers | 02:19 |
fabo | ok | 02:19 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: does anyone even check that team? | 02:20 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, yes | 02:20 |
Hobbsee | hmmm ok | 02:20 |
imbrandon | it gets emails just like the rest of LP ;) | 02:21 |
Hobbsee | true that... | 02:22 |
Hobbsee | havent noticed them | 02:22 |
imbrandon | thats becouse most just ping someone on irc or mistakenly subscribe a sponsor team when there isnt anything to sponsor filling my folder with unrealted stuff ;) | 02:23 |
Hobbsee | heh, right | 02:24 |
imbrandon | ugh i hope i had everything important backed up | 02:26 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 02:26 |
Hobbsee | you probably didnt | 02:26 |
imbrandon | music , mail, gpg all backed up ..... | 02:27 |
imbrandon | hrm | 02:27 |
Hobbsee | ssh stuff? | 02:27 |
imbrandon | i cant think of anything but my konversation scriptfoo but thats no biggie | 02:28 |
imbrandon | what ssh stuff? | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | if you had anything in .ssh/ that you wanted to keep | 02:29 |
imbrandon | thats just a matter of installing openssh-server and making you an account ;) | 02:29 |
imbrandon | no real "custom" stuff there | 02:29 |
imbrandon | ahh just a key for LP and imbrandon.com but i can regen those, thats easy | 02:30 |
imbrandon | i do that on new reloads anyhow | 02:30 |
imbrandon | sides i have a backup of /home/brandon thats only a few days old | 02:32 |
imbrandon | ;) | 02:33 |
marseillai_ | on my both computer keep can't backup my ~ because of ~/.kde some files gives error and keep can't backup! and the maintainer (JRe) has disappear ... | 02:33 |
exobuzz | some files gives error? | 02:35 |
exobuzz | what error ? | 02:35 |
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Tonio__ | hi | 02:50 |
Tonio__ | kwwii: it looks like changing baseresolution causes a few issues | 02:50 |
Tonio__ | kwwii: icons are scaled and Dialog.png doesn't appear.... | 02:51 |
Tonio__ | I don't really understand how moodin works... | 02:51 |
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Hobbsee | !bug | 03:03 |
ubotu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com | 03:03 |
mornfall | buggle! buggle! | 03:04 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 03:04 |
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bddebian | Howdy | 03:04 |
mornfall | sup :) | 03:05 |
bddebian | Hi mornfall | 03:05 |
mornfall | life's a vacuum cleaner and we are the dust in the carpet | 03:05 |
mornfall | (but i'm almost taking it positively now) | 03:06 |
bddebian | Heh | 03:06 |
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mornfall | where's the wikiqueen, quick! | 03:07 |
Tonio_ | hey bddebian, mornfall | 03:10 |
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bddebian | Hello Tonio_ | 03:10 |
mornfall | hey Tonio_ | 03:10 |
Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I was thinking about powermanager | 03:11 |
Tonio_ | Hobbsee: shouldn't we add a sound on the low battery alert ? | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | Tonio_: yep? | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | Tonio_: hmmm...yes, that would be wise | 03:11 |
Tonio_ | Hobbsee: the alert is a bit too little, easy to miss it | 03:11 |
Tonio_ | or maybe change it to a window that you have to click "yes" to continue | 03:12 |
Tonio_ | I mean, this has to be strong alert in my view | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | Tonio_: i get low battery alerts when i'm still 15 min away from battery dead - supposedly. it's actually more like 20. i'd suggest a system beep would be useful though | 03:12 |
Tonio_ | Hobbsee: a first at 20 minutes and a second one at 5 minutes | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 03:13 |
Tonio_ | Hobbsee: the second one ask if you want to hybernate, or adds a sound....... | 03:13 |
Tonio_ | and is in a way stronger | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | ahh...yep | 03:13 |
Tonio_ | that shouldn't be hard to do | 03:14 |
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Tonio_ | this is what windows does and I think it is the good approach | 03:14 |
Hobbsee | yep | 03:14 |
seb__ | Hello | 03:14 |
Tonio_ | hi seb__ | 03:14 |
Tonio_ | Hobbsee: will talk about that with lure and sebas | 03:15 |
seb__ | Does somebody already tryed to package a KDE application? | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | Tonio_: smart. | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | .... | 03:15 |
Tonio_ | seb__: well you are on kubuntu-devel, so yes, of course :) | 03:16 |
sebas | I'd rather not make the warning configurable, maybe we should just do it 3 or 5 minutes before the critical action is configured. | 03:16 |
sebas | Making it configurable would clutter the UI too much. | 03:16 |
Tonio_ | sebas: yes that's my feeling | 03:16 |
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Tonio_ | sebas: a second alert, but lowder one, with sound maybe no ? | 03:17 |
sebas | Tonio_: I'll change it shortlyu. | 03:17 |
sebas | No, we cannot just make the machine make sound | 03:17 |
sebas | I'd hate it in most situations. | 03:17 |
seb__ | Good. I'm at the "fakeroot debian/rules binary" stage of the .deb package creation. But in a Makefile.am, there is a $(kde_datadir), so it try to install some files in / instead of the debian/myapp folder. | 03:17 |
Tonio_ | sebas: hum, yes, me too, but on critical alert... | 03:17 |
sebas | Critical is no alert :> | 03:17 |
sebas | It's an actio n | 03:17 |
sebas | OK, I'm off again. | 03:18 |
Tonio_ | sebas: okay, so how about a second alert dialog but that you have to click to continue ? | 03:18 |
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sebas | One should be really enough. | 03:18 |
Tonio_ | sebas: like "warning ! you are very low on bettery. D you want to continue ?" | 03:18 |
Tonio_ | sebas: hum... | 03:18 |
Tonio_ | seb__: I don't understand the point | 03:19 |
Tonio_ | seb__: why installing datas in / and not creating a deb file ? | 03:19 |
Tonio_ | seb__: debuild is easier than playing manually with fakeroot | 03:19 |
ryanakca | edgy-alternate-amd64.iso would work for a ppc, right? | 03:20 |
sebas | We could maybe add a button "Ignore warning" to the tooltip. | 03:20 |
sebas | So I'm really off now :-) | 03:20 |
sebas | later! | 03:20 |
Tonio_ | ryanakca: no :) | 03:20 |
Tonio_ | sebas: okay :) | 03:20 |
Tonio_ | seya | 03:20 |
seb__ | Where can I modify $(kde_datadir) to something like $(CURDIR)/debian/basket ? | 03:21 |
seb__ | I already modified the debian/rules file to use "PREFIX" instead of "DESTDIR" : $(MAKE) install PREFIX=$(CURDIR)/debian/basket | 03:21 |
seb__ | So I think it should work... | 03:21 |
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Tonio_ | seb__: you shouldn't do that | 03:21 |
Tonio_ | files are installed to debian/yourapp before the package creation | 03:21 |
Tonio_ | that's "normal" | 03:21 |
Tonio_ | debian/yourapp is a tmp equivalent to / before the package is build | 03:22 |
Tonio_ | seb__: I must say I don't understanf the point... | 03:22 |
seb__ | Tonio_: Yes I know. I haven't explained well. I do a "fakeroot debian/rules binary" and it tells me " | 03:23 |
seb__ | test -z "/usr/share/apps/basket/backgrounds" || mkdir -p -- "/usr/share/apps/basket/backgrounds" | 03:23 |
seb__ | mkdir: ne peut crer le rpertoire `/usr/share/apps/basket': Permission non accorde | 03:23 |
Tonio_ | seb__: looks like your compating the things a lot ! | 03:23 |
Tonio_ | seb__: ah t'es francais :) | 03:23 |
Tonio_ | bon autant se le faire en fr et en private | 03:23 |
Tonio_ | ce sera plus simple | 03:23 |
seb__ | Tonio_: cool | 03:23 |
seb__ | Tonio_: I can't send you PV messages : [15:24] [505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) | 03:24 |
Tonio_ | okay | 03:25 |
Tonio_ | well let's go to #gouziprout | 03:25 |
Tonio_ | hehe | 03:25 |
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bddebian | Heya jsgotangco | 03:27 |
kwwii | Tonio_: dude, the ksplash dialog is b0rked | 03:27 |
jsgotangco | hiya | 03:28 |
kwwii | Tonio_: the "window" or whatever you want to call it (Dialog.png) is not shown so the icons are on the wallpaper directly | 03:29 |
kwwii | Tonio_: I guess the base resolution has a lot more to do with things than we guessed :p | 03:29 |
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Tonio_ | kwwii: that's due to base_resolution change... | 03:35 |
Tonio_ | it looks like Riddell's patch is for a specific resol | 03:35 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: I'm gonna test and probably change back to 1280x1024 as it was before | 03:35 |
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Tonio_ | kwwii: icons are not supposed to be scaled but I assume they are scaled but to fit 1280 resol | 03:37 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: that's "illusion" of non scaling in fact | 03:37 |
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Tonio_ | kwwii: ping for when you're back :) | 05:34 |
kwwii | Tonio_: hi | 05:36 |
kwwii | Tonio_: so setting the bg to 1280x1024 and including that sizes picture and just accepting that it will be scaled up for most people is our best choice? | 05:37 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: before any feedback from riddell yes, I think so | 05:43 |
kwwii | ok, then let's do that | 05:43 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: but I prefer to wait for another upload to change this | 05:43 |
kwwii | yeah | 05:43 |
kwwii | for now, it works and is a known bug | 05:44 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: I don't want 4 kds uploads just for that setting hehe :) | 05:44 |
kwwii | but we need to fix it the next time we update the package | 05:44 |
Tonio_ | that's not faire in the changelog :) | 05:44 |
kwwii | hehe | 05:44 |
kwwii | well, it is too much work anyway | 05:44 |
kwwii | when we do that I have one small change to the color scheme...the inactive window border color needs to tweak | 05:44 |
Tonio_ | yes, so when you need for another upload, please let me know and I'll add the stuff plus the theme.rc settings back | 05:44 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: yes for example :) | 05:45 |
kwwii | we can wait until we have more stuff done | 05:45 |
kwwii | I can also include the metabar theme | 05:45 |
kwwii | etc. | 05:45 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: hehe yes, we are already version 39 :) | 05:45 |
kwwii | ;-) | 05:45 |
Tonio_ | don't wanna come to version 80 :) | 05:45 |
kwwii | perhaps on tuesday or so | 05:45 |
kwwii | how much more time do we have until we cannot change anything? | 05:45 |
gnomefreak | the 28th? | 05:46 |
kwwii | wow, so late | 05:46 |
kwwii | cool | 05:46 |
gnomefreak | thats the uni freeze so im thinking its the last day to add anything | 05:47 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: kds can be changed at anytime since it is native package | 05:47 |
kwwii | perhaps we should do a slight tweak to the about pages (just adjusting the blue) | 05:47 |
gnomefreak | ah | 05:47 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: except main freeze, which is just at the end | 05:47 |
kwwii | Tonio_: yeah, but eventually we need to test one final set of stuff and see if there are problems | 05:47 |
Tonio_ | feature freeze doesn't impact native kubuntu devs like guidance or kds | 05:47 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: of course we are not going to change important stuff 3 days before release ;) | 05:48 |
kwwii | :p | 05:48 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: note that this has been done in the past :) | 05:48 |
Tonio_ | inclusion of kde 3.4.3 3 days before breezy was out | 05:49 |
Tonio_ | a NIGHTARE | 05:49 |
Tonio_ | all the the working stuff like kdeprint was crashing etc...... | 05:49 |
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Tonio_ | systemsettings was not working, so impossible to manage the system for Joe etc...... | 05:49 |
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kwwii | hehe | 06:56 |
kwwii | sorry, I was making dinner | 06:56 |
Tonio_ | hum this seb__ guy is basKet upstream :) | 06:59 |
Tonio_ | hehe, interesting to have him here, interested in kubuntu | 06:59 |
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kwwii | ;-) | 07:03 |
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danimo | hi | 09:37 |
danimo | imbrandon: ping? | 09:38 |
GNUrante | hi | 09:38 |
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Tm_T | mooh | 10:05 |
Tm_T | I love Eqonomize! <3<3 | 10:06 |
danimo | Riddell: ping? | 10:06 |
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GNUr | edgy universe repository works? | 10:32 |
rouzic | imbrandon: Knot2/Knot3 is not compattible and the wifi in the macbook :( | 10:35 |
crimsun | while knot 3's kernel is newer than knot 2's, we have a new kernel being spun | 10:44 |
Riddell | erk, must be a better way to do it than that | 11:06 |
Riddell | danimo: hi | 11:06 |
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kwwii | erm, which package are the new window buttons in? | 11:46 |
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kwwii | Riddell: which package has the kubuntu window buttons? the old ones are still in kwin-style-crystal it seems | 11:53 |
nixternal | i did a couple of those libgamin fixes yesterday and put them on revu..anyone revu and upload if possible, thanks ;) | 12:05 |
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