[12:11] kwwii: ok, no problem! [12:14] oh man [12:14] someone should be glad I'm not op in #ubuntu+1 [12:19] Sup? [12:21] nothing [12:33] wow... just heard about lilo..... [12:33] RIP..... === DaSkreech hasnt [12:40] and to think I was just about to go for a bike ride or jog.... [12:40] That sucks [12:42] yeah, it does suck === claydoh [n=clay@66.252.46.227] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@66.252.46.227] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] Some guy is complaining about Steve irwin on the chan [01:05] which channel? [01:06] #freenode-announce [01:06] WEnt to 1025 users a while back [01:07] It's crazy trying to get people to stop making fun if lilo etc [01:07] of === DaSkreech liked Lilo :( === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] Hawkwind: They have two lilo chans now? [01:52] There is lilo-memorial which was +m til just a few seconds ago [01:53] Right they just +m again [01:56] wow, thats sad news :( [01:56] Yeah [01:56] I actually chatted with him a little back when there was a #lycoris chan [01:57] had no clew who he was either:) [01:57] I always thought he was a bot so I sent him a saucy reply one day and we been chatting since then [01:58] :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] Howdy [02:09] hi [02:15] Heya DaSkreech === claydoh appreciates and applauds DaSkreech's patience and caring over in #kubuntu [02:16] I do my best [02:21] night all [02:21] night === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-217-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech eeks at the output of lsof [03:00] Hawkwind: Though this should pretty much be done here :) [03:10] !noob [03:10] Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. [03:10] Ah ok so Woot is allowed :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:13] Hobbsee Hello Hobbs [03:14] hey DaSkreech [03:15] Ok [03:15] Mykeyboardjustwentaywire [03:16] hehe [03:16] better that than your mouse. maybe [03:16] WellowdoIaskforelp? [03:17] acknoJ++ === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A60502.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] Welltatworkedwonders [03:32] Tisprettymucsootsworkforterestofteday [03:34] right [03:34] and it suddenly starts working again [03:38] Hobbsee: Did you know lilo? [03:44] DaSkreech: not really [03:44] OK. Well you did hear he is dead? [03:47] yes [03:48] Alright :( === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-13.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:49] damn.. knot3 kubuntu boots fast === claydoh [n=clay@66.252.46.227] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.221.30] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-61-21.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:23] Gah, I'm drawing a blank. What is the kubuntu package manager thingy called again? [07:24] It is 1:30am after all and I'm old :-( [07:24] Adept [07:24] Thx Jucato [07:24] no problem [07:24] prof... :P [07:25] pfft, yeah right :) [07:27] heh [07:27] pfft [07:27] excuses excuses bddebian [07:27] pfft [07:28] hmm why does sysinitv still want to be installed hrmmm [07:29] Heya jsgotangco :) [07:31] hey [07:31] changing Konversation's default "server" settings to irc.ubuntu.com (which really just points to freenode)... lilo dying... quite ironic... :( [07:33] lilo was great, he was always avaialble during the ubuntu irc communitys formative years [07:41] ello everyone [07:42] hi imbrandon! :) [07:42] Heya imbrandon [07:42] wow some people have no respect ( in #freenode-announce ) [07:42] why? what are they saying? === Jucato goes there... === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-125-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] imbrandon: i'm sure it hasn't got any better in the last 9 hours, it was a weird mixture of comments when it was announced === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4875A.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4875A.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:19] heya Hobbsee , and raphink [09:20] hey imbrandon [09:20] see the news about lilo ? [09:20] sucks [09:20] yeah === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:32] morning [09:33] hey mornfall! [09:34] the times are bad... i'm wondering how long will they last === Dace [n=dace@62.142.195.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:36] :( [09:40] moin === Dace [n=dace@62.142.195.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-125-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4875A.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:34] wow.. disabling anti-aliasing made KDE alot faster. [10:57] are you sure? [10:58] in what respect? [10:58] if it's things like konsole redraw [10:58] or window switch redraw [10:58] then i'd blame the graphics driver [11:08] aye [11:08] I noticed no difference in speed, lot more ugly it was =) === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.236.139] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] make sure your render is accelerated as it should ;-) === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:42] mornfall: i actually have left aa on in konsole. but everything else, except desktop icons and window titles are without.. and it feels alot faster. === mornfall is wondering about placebo effect [11:43] kmail is the big winner here. === pef_aw [n=loic@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon yawns === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef_aw [n=loic@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andred173 [i=bnc@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495796C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [12:41] moin [12:42] hey kwwii [12:42] howdy Hobbsee [12:43] it seems the ksplash package that we finished yesterday is b0rked [12:43] :-( [12:44] about how it's full screened? [12:44] about how you cant see the middle box [12:45] i noticed that a bit ago [12:46] fun, lightning / power storms here now [12:46] sounds like a fskin tonado outside [12:47] tornado [12:47] who here cares & loves for digikam? [12:47] you do [12:47] no, I take care of f-spot [12:47] i like it, i use it semi oftern ( to get pics of my camera ) why ? [12:47] but I just uploaded a libgphoto2 change that could affect digikam [12:47] oh, digikam... that'd be toma or allee [12:47] Hobbsee: yes, exactly, that is not how it was meant to be [12:47] they're the debian-type people too [12:48] so if there are issues about importing, etc, tell me :) [12:48] ajmitch, okes === ajmitch just needed to fix the somewhat critical bug that f-spot hit [12:48] ajmitch, i'll try it out once it hits the archive [12:48] thanks === imbrandon makes sure the camera has charged bateries [12:50] yeah, I have to charge mine too [12:50] it was annoying taking photos the other night & having the battery warning show up :) [12:50] heh [12:50] ajmitch: and get rid of the horrible pictures on yours :P [12:51] lol [12:52] Hobbsee: what horrible photos? :) [12:52] ajmitch: the ones of me. [12:52] in the food court === ajmitch should export some photos to flickr... [12:52] with yagisan. [12:52] ajmitch: have you forgotten my comment, and then kicking yagisan under the table? [12:53] *that* day === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] not at all :) === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] heh === ajmitch selects some photos to export to flickr [12:53] ;) === ryanakca_ just had konversation crash... handy dandy KDE Crash Handler pops up... but I get the problem of "(no debugging symbols found)" [12:56] ryanakca: might need to install gdb [12:56] abattoir: it's been installed for ages... [12:56] abattoir: hmmm... [12:57] ryanakca: then install knetwork-dbg or so [12:57] I wonder if the packages ./configure gets passed the --debugging (or something simillar) option at build... [12:57] ryanakca, konversation-dbg ? [12:57] ah... os it's inthere? [12:57] konversation-dbg - debugging symbols for konversation [12:57] morning typing... so it's in there :) [12:57] konversation - user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE [12:57] konversation-dbg - debugging symbols for konversation === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-125-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:58] Tm_T: check the description of kdenetwork-dbg [12:59] Hobbsee: ok [12:59] oh, i thought it said more than that [12:59] :p [12:59] it doesnt have symbols for much [12:59] Hobbsee, but konversation doesnt get built as part of kdenetwork ( like kopete ) [12:59] help.ubuntu.com is stuck [01:00] indeed [01:00] most of the time its -bdg though ryanakca [01:00] err -dbg [01:01] yeah... and why isn't -dbg installed as a dependency of ? or just made into one great big package [01:01] becouse that would be silly, why would you "normaly" want to install that [01:02] why strip them out and them make it a dependabce [01:02] it would also cause a circular dependancy, which is a Bad Thing (tm) [01:02] meh... you win :P [01:03] ryanakca: of course the other reason: cd space [01:03] The following NEW packages will be installed: [01:03] kdebase-dbg kdelibs-dbg kdepim-dbg kdeutils-dbg [01:03] 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. [01:03] Need to get 116MB of archives. [01:03] After unpacking 326MB of additional disk space will be used. [01:04] and the fact that 99% of the time they arent needed === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon listens to the thunder === ryanakca made konversation crash again... go /dcc chat nick ... krash... *waits as -dbg is installed* [01:07] brb, once again === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] got the backtrace :) [01:16] imbrandon: mind sending a /dcc chat request to me? see if recieving one makes me crash? I know sending one to my bot did... === Hobbsee wonders how that works [01:17] i cant sorry, i have dcc disabled at the router level [01:17] Hobbsee might be able to === imbrandon pokes her [01:17] hmm...timeout === Hobbsee drops a large saucepan on imbrandon's head [01:18] [07:13] [DCC] Establishing DCC Chat connection to Hobbsee (hobbseesip:50576)... [01:18] [07:13] [Error] Connection broken, error code 10. [01:18] lol [01:18] i suspect it's disabled here too [01:18] Hobbsee, you have a router/firewall ? it probably is [01:18] it is by default most of the time [01:18] imbrandon: yep [01:18] dcc's are dangerous to me, i just use ftp/web/email === ryanakca guesses he'll be using the telnet localhost portnumber from now on for accessing his bot [01:19] why not build commands into the bot ') [01:19] like %whoami [01:19] %whoami [01:19] imbrandon [01:19] ;) [01:19] no, administration stuff... [01:19] and ? [01:20] like .die... (and yes, kill -9 works... but it messes stuff up) [01:20] query's work [01:20] ask Seveas , about %quit etc all his commands are part of the bot [01:20] join part quit restart reload etc [01:20] and he runs what again? supybot? [01:21] i think he coded them himself in python === ryanakca has his bot acting as a stats bot :) [01:21] dunno [01:21] ouch... *gulps* [01:21] still better than buggy, insecure dcc ;) [01:21] yes [01:22] i hope the power dont go out, its raining hard here now [01:22] imbrandon, supybot [01:22] hey Seveas [01:22] I only coded the plugins [01:22] ahh ;) [01:22] hey Sarah [01:23] .... [01:23] Seveas: started using my real name now, hey? [01:23] hehe [01:23] lol [01:24] sudo /etc/init.d/tleds reload [01:24] gah === ryanakca points at that pointy stick that 'Sarah' keeps around [01:24] restart anyhow bleh [01:24] it's painful... and we're offtopic, *gulps* === Hobbsee attacks ryanakca with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!! === imbrandon points her to start thinking of a good hostname NOW for her new coreduo ;) === Ubugtu takes that pointy thing and throws it into orbit [01:25] lol [01:25] hahaha === ryanakca ducks hey backup whip [01:25] s/hey/her [01:25] Ubugtu: I tried that once... wasn't pretty [01:25] ryanakca: pointy thing == Hobbsee === Hobbsee kicks and stomps Ubugtu [01:25] haha [01:26] imbrandon: for her new coreduo? oh yes. i dont get that for a while though. === Hobbsee throws Seveas and Ubugtu into orbit [01:26] exactly and your stuck with sarah@sarah~$ for tooo long === Seveas waves === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has left #kubuntu-devel ["cat] [01:27] imbrandon: hehe, why? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee contemplates [01:27] *crash* [01:27] sarah@longpointystickofdoom? [01:27] hahahaha [01:27] lol [01:27] haha [01:27] you didn't throw hard enough [01:27] Seveas: that'll teach you to mess with the master [01:27] I came crashing back [01:27] i'm a girl, i cant. [01:27] true [01:27] lol @ Seveas === Hobbsee wonders if she can make the hostnamethat long === Seveas names his machins after airplanes [01:28] this thing is mirage [01:28] wow i think the rain is gonna start comming inside, /me gos to look for satalight photos on the web [01:28] what...a car? [01:28] dunno *googles it* [01:28] airplane [01:29] mine are all ST ships [01:29] ;) [01:29] a mirage is a model of car here === Hobbsee wonders if one can change the hostname [01:29] ryan@longpointystickofdoom:~$ [01:29] Hobbsee: sudo hostname newhostname [01:29] Hobbsee, yea with 2 simple changes [01:30] Hobbsee, just change it in /etc/hostname ( the only thing in the file ) and in /etc/hosts ( next to 127.0.0.1 ) [01:30] reboot then your golden [01:30] ryanakca, that breaks sometimes [01:30] better to do it manulay [01:30] imbrandon: doesn't the hostname command do that as well? or does it only change /etc/hostname [01:30] ah [01:31] it dosent change /etc/hosts so it breaks sudo [01:31] as sudo wants to lookup the hostname for some reason to make it match [01:31] or some such [01:31] odd === ryanakca wonders how long "bzip2 -9 home.tar" will take... it's a 11GB archive :) === ryanakca is backing up and making a fresh install... [01:32] s/bzip2/gzip [01:33] doesn't compress as much, does it? [01:33] i dunno i just dont like bz2 archives === ryanakca has to send it threw the network to his mom's winblows computer... unless she changes her mind and lets me borrow her external hdd for the day [01:35] I'm figuring... 30min for 2.3gb of music... translates to... 2-3 hours across the network... and then back when edgy is installed... === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee reboots [01:39] imbrandon: did the amarok patches get uploaded? [01:40] Riddell, yea [01:40] great, thanks [01:41] last night sometime === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] sarah@LongPointyStickOfDoom:~$ echo Boo [01:43] Boo [01:43] sarah@LongPointyStickOfDoom:~$ [01:43] imbrandon: ryanakca ^ [01:43] Riddell: http://muse.19inch.net/~abattoir/shots/error.png [01:43] lol :) === imbrandon was the first one to send to the list confirming them [01:43] abattoir: hmm [01:43] GAH OMFG [01:44] Hobbsee, i hope there isnt anything on voyager you need, i'm gonna take this opertunity to relead it with a fresh knot3 [01:44] I thought a hostname needed to be allinlowercase... [01:44] Seveas, ping [01:44] imbrandon: give me a sec to check [01:44] Riddell: the first time oem-config-gtk was installed... [01:44] ryanakca: seems not [01:44] heh [01:44] Hobbsee, i'm on battery power from my laptop atm , power just went out and bored my fs i think, i'm gonna take the opertunity to reload it [01:44] Riddell: the next time, i didnt select 'kubuntu desktop'(dont remember the option correctly), that time oem-config-kde was installed [01:45] ryanakca, no it just makes it easier [01:45] imbrandon: yeah, it's not ssh'able, it seems. [01:45] imbrandon: it should be fine [01:45] i dont think i had anything major on there [01:45] Hobbsee, yea power is out here the server is running on USP and i'm on my laptop [01:45] imbrandon: want to just ls /home/sarah for me? [01:46] and ls /home/sarah/TODO? [01:46] ummm fs is borked hehe i can try to save it, it was the reasson i was just gonna do a fresh install [01:46] er, s%sarah%hobbsee% [01:46] well, yeah. ahhh, so you cant access it at all. that's finfe [01:47] yea i get a kernel panic on boot, thus a good time to install knot3 [01:47] ;) [01:47] ( once the power is back on ) [01:47] Riddell: the second time, when oem-config-kde *was* installed, i got this when trying 'sudo oem-config' [01:47] abattoir: didn't select where? [01:47] Riddell: during installation, it asks something about the desktop which you want to install(sorry dont remember the correct name) [01:48] Riddell: the only option was kubuntu [01:48] software select screen iirc [01:48] Riddell: fish://abattoir@muse.19inch.net/home/abattoir/public_html/shots/error1.png [01:48] oops [01:48] Riddell: http://muse.19inch.net/~abattoir/shots/error1.png [01:49] accessibility doesn't work either, so I need to do some installation options testing [01:50] imbrandon: gotcha. [01:50] Riddell: hmmm, just checked /usr/sbin/oem-config doesnt have kde-ui [01:50] Riddell: i thought Kamion said he'd add it [01:51] Riddell: shall i ask him? [01:51] I'm having hard time to find any reasonable way to change default booting kernel, some easy newb way it should be [01:52] oem-config-kde_1.2_all.deb is definately on the CD [01:52] Riddell, when i uploaded amarok too i changed install-mp3 a bit to use lsb_release -sc as opposed to just assuming dapper [01:52] Tm_T: write us a guidance module for grub setup then :) [01:52] imbrandon: nice [01:52] Riddell: yes, its on the CD and was installed the second time(see the screen shot) [01:52] Riddell: /usr/sbin/oem-config is missing 'kde-ui' [01:53] Riddell: that's what I'm thinking, we need such thing [01:53] Riddell: guidance is pyhton/ruby/c++ ? [01:53] or all of that? :p [01:53] Tm_T: python/c++ [01:54] roger [01:54] mostly python [01:55] <_Sime_> tiny bit of C. [01:55] ok, time to learn python then ;) === exobuzz [n=jools@82-70-241-14.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] libpythonize is C ? [01:56] can someone paste me the url for the x86 knot3 desktop iso ( kubuntu ) so i can wget it , sorry i'm stuck at console atm [01:56] w3m is your friend :) [01:56] ;) [01:56] but I won't be able to do it for months yet, I'm planning to get back hacking in december [01:56] err, doh, I should put knot 3 on kubuntu.org [01:57] http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-3/edgy-desktop-i386.iso [01:57] Riddell: should i ask Kamion to modify /usr/sbin/oem-config ? [01:57] Riddell: or rather oem-config, which goes there [01:59] is it faster to ask for a sync or be sponsored ? [01:59] abattoir: yes, looks like it needs it [01:59] although kamion doesn't like working weekends :) [01:59] Riddell, thanks [01:59] ok, i'll catch him tomorrow then [02:00] Riddell: heh. no idea why :P === Hobbsee gets a few days off, after tomorrow night. WOOT!!!! [02:00] abattoir: hmm, having oem-config not depend on metacity would be nice [02:01] Riddell: i think he did the control file as well [02:03] Riddell: i dont know why it does, i'll ask him [02:11] fabo, for what , normaly syncs dont need a sponsor ( other than maybe an "ack" on the LP bug [02:11] ) [02:12] ahhh power is back on ...... [02:12] man that sucked, but i guess it gives me a chance for a clean install === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:12] ello apachelogger [02:13] hey apachelogger [02:13] imbrandon: new strigi release [02:14] if it is a sync ( no changes needed ) then Hobbsee can point you at the proceedure for filing a bug on LP to get it synced [02:14] if its a merge then its a bit diffrent [02:14] ahoy imbrandon and Hobbsee === Hobbsee just uses requestsync [02:14] i know the procedure, just i want to know what is the faster way :) [02:15] well there is only one way depending on what is needed i guess is what i'm saying ;) [02:15] ok so sync is LP :) [02:16] yea take the debian version and build it etc etc etc and file the bug on LP and get a MOTU ( core-dev if its main ) to ack it [02:16] ok brb afk while i re-install voyager, man i need some cd-rw's i go though cd's too fast [02:16] and file the UVF exception, if it's in main... [02:17] and have good reason etc etc etc hehehehe ok really gone [02:17] man i really dident wanna do this today [02:17] rah i need a simplified procedure ;) === fabo sets batch syncing mode ON [02:18] fabo: make sure you subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors so we can ack all of your syncs [02:19] motu-revu not sponsors ( as there is nothing to sponsor ) [02:19] motu-reviewers [02:19] ok [02:20] imbrandon: does anyone even check that team? [02:20] Hobbsee, yes [02:20] hmmm ok [02:21] it gets emails just like the rest of LP ;) [02:22] true that... [02:22] havent noticed them [02:23] thats becouse most just ping someone on irc or mistakenly subscribe a sponsor team when there isnt anything to sponsor filling my folder with unrealted stuff ;) [02:24] heh, right [02:26] ugh i hope i had everything important backed up [02:26] hehe [02:26] you probably didnt [02:27] music , mail, gpg all backed up ..... [02:27] hrm [02:27] ssh stuff? [02:28] i cant think of anything but my konversation scriptfoo but thats no biggie [02:28] what ssh stuff? [02:29] if you had anything in .ssh/ that you wanted to keep [02:29] thats just a matter of installing openssh-server and making you an account ;) [02:29] no real "custom" stuff there [02:30] ahh just a key for LP and imbrandon.com but i can regen those, thats easy [02:30] i do that on new reloads anyhow [02:32] sides i have a backup of /home/brandon thats only a few days old [02:33] ;) [02:33] on my both computer keep can't backup my ~ because of ~/.kde some files gives error and keep can't backup! and the maintainer (JRe) has disappear ... [02:35] some files gives error? [02:35] what error ? === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio__ [n=tonio@171.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:50] hi [02:50] kwwii: it looks like changing baseresolution causes a few issues [02:51] kwwii: icons are scaled and Dialog.png doesn't appear.... [02:51] I don't really understand how moodin works... === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] !bug [03:03] If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com [03:04] buggle! buggle! [03:04] hehe === Hobbsee buggles mornfall === mornfall feels buggled [03:04] Howdy [03:05] sup :) [03:05] Hi mornfall [03:05] life's a vacuum cleaner and we are the dust in the carpet [03:06] (but i'm almost taking it positively now) [03:06] Heh === apachelogger is now known as wikiking [03:07] where's the wikiqueen, quick! [03:10] hey bddebian, mornfall === Tonio_ is listening to "Stockholm Syndrome" by Muse on Absolution [Amarok] [03:10] Hello Tonio_ [03:10] hey Tonio_ [03:11] Hobbsee: I was thinking about powermanager [03:11] Hobbsee: shouldn't we add a sound on the low battery alert ? [03:11] Tonio_: yep? [03:11] Tonio_: hmmm...yes, that would be wise [03:11] Hobbsee: the alert is a bit too little, easy to miss it [03:12] or maybe change it to a window that you have to click "yes" to continue [03:12] I mean, this has to be strong alert in my view [03:12] Tonio_: i get low battery alerts when i'm still 15 min away from battery dead - supposedly. it's actually more like 20. i'd suggest a system beep would be useful though [03:13] Hobbsee: a first at 20 minutes and a second one at 5 minutes [03:13] yeah [03:13] Hobbsee: the second one ask if you want to hybernate, or adds a sound....... [03:13] and is in a way stronger [03:13] ahh...yep [03:14] that shouldn't be hard to do === seb__ [n=seb@lns-bzn-23-82-248-108-108.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] this is what windows does and I think it is the good approach [03:14] yep [03:14] Hello [03:14] hi seb__ [03:15] Hobbsee: will talk about that with lure and sebas [03:15] Does somebody already tryed to package a KDE application? [03:15] Tonio_: smart. [03:15] .... [03:16] seb__: well you are on kubuntu-devel, so yes, of course :) [03:16] I'd rather not make the warning configurable, maybe we should just do it 3 or 5 minutes before the critical action is configured. [03:16] Making it configurable would clutter the UI too much. [03:16] sebas: yes that's my feeling === sebas creeps back under his stone. [03:17] sebas: a second alert, but lowder one, with sound maybe no ? [03:17] Tonio_: I'll change it shortlyu. [03:17] No, we cannot just make the machine make sound [03:17] I'd hate it in most situations. [03:17] Good. I'm at the "fakeroot debian/rules binary" stage of the .deb package creation. But in a Makefile.am, there is a $(kde_datadir), so it try to install some files in / instead of the debian/myapp folder. [03:17] sebas: hum, yes, me too, but on critical alert... [03:17] Critical is no alert :> [03:17] It's an actio n [03:18] OK, I'm off again. [03:18] sebas: okay, so how about a second alert dialog but that you have to click to continue ? === Dace [n=dace@62.142.195.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:18] One should be really enough. [03:18] sebas: like "warning ! you are very low on bettery. D you want to continue ?" [03:18] sebas: hum... [03:19] seb__: I don't understand the point [03:19] seb__: why installing datas in / and not creating a deb file ? [03:19] seb__: debuild is easier than playing manually with fakeroot [03:20] edgy-alternate-amd64.iso would work for a ppc, right? [03:20] We could maybe add a button "Ignore warning" to the tooltip. [03:20] So I'm really off now :-) [03:20] later! [03:20] ryanakca: no :) [03:20] sebas: okay :) [03:20] seya [03:21] Where can I modify $(kde_datadir) to something like $(CURDIR)/debian/basket ? [03:21] I already modified the debian/rules file to use "PREFIX" instead of "DESTDIR" : $(MAKE) install PREFIX=$(CURDIR)/debian/basket [03:21] So I think it should work... === seb__ [n=seb@lns-bzn-23-82-248-108-108.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca goes back to looking for the right image... theres three of them... i386, amd64... so the only one left should work :) [03:21] seb__: you shouldn't do that [03:21] files are installed to debian/yourapp before the package creation [03:21] that's "normal" [03:22] debian/yourapp is a tmp equivalent to / before the package is build [03:22] seb__: I must say I don't understanf the point... [03:23] Tonio_: Yes I know. I haven't explained well. I do a "fakeroot debian/rules binary" and it tells me " [03:23] test -z "/usr/share/apps/basket/backgrounds" || mkdir -p -- "/usr/share/apps/basket/backgrounds" [03:23] mkdir: ne peut crer le rpertoire `/usr/share/apps/basket': Permission non accorde [03:23] seb__: looks like your compating the things a lot ! [03:23] seb__: ah t'es francais :) [03:23] bon autant se le faire en fr et en private [03:23] ce sera plus simple [03:23] Tonio_: cool [03:24] Tonio_: I can't send you PV messages : [15:24] [505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) [03:25] okay [03:25] well let's go to #gouziprout [03:25] hehe === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-218-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] Heya jsgotangco [03:27] Tonio_: dude, the ksplash dialog is b0rked [03:28] hiya [03:29] Tonio_: the "window" or whatever you want to call it (Dialog.png) is not shown so the icons are on the wallpaper directly [03:29] Tonio_: I guess the base resolution has a lot more to do with things than we guessed :p === kwwii takes a walk with the family, bbl [03:35] kwwii: that's due to base_resolution change... [03:35] it looks like Riddell's patch is for a specific resol [03:35] kwwii: I'm gonna test and probably change back to 1280x1024 as it was before === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-218-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:37] kwwii: icons are not supposed to be scaled but I assume they are scaled but to fit 1280 resol [03:37] kwwii: that's "illusion" of non scaling in fact === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=imbrando@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-61-21.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-252-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-252-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] kwwii: ping for when you're back :) [05:36] Tonio_: hi [05:37] Tonio_: so setting the bg to 1280x1024 and including that sizes picture and just accepting that it will be scaled up for most people is our best choice? [05:43] kwwii: before any feedback from riddell yes, I think so [05:43] ok, then let's do that [05:43] kwwii: but I prefer to wait for another upload to change this [05:43] yeah [05:44] for now, it works and is a known bug [05:44] kwwii: I don't want 4 kds uploads just for that setting hehe :) [05:44] but we need to fix it the next time we update the package [05:44] that's not faire in the changelog :) [05:44] hehe [05:44] well, it is too much work anyway [05:44] when we do that I have one small change to the color scheme...the inactive window border color needs to tweak [05:44] yes, so when you need for another upload, please let me know and I'll add the stuff plus the theme.rc settings back [05:45] kwwii: yes for example :) [05:45] we can wait until we have more stuff done [05:45] I can also include the metabar theme [05:45] etc. [05:45] kwwii: hehe yes, we are already version 39 :) [05:45] ;-) [05:45] don't wanna come to version 80 :) [05:45] perhaps on tuesday or so [05:45] how much more time do we have until we cannot change anything? [05:46] the 28th? [05:46] wow, so late [05:46] cool [05:47] thats the uni freeze so im thinking its the last day to add anything [05:47] kwwii: kds can be changed at anytime since it is native package [05:47] perhaps we should do a slight tweak to the about pages (just adjusting the blue) [05:47] ah [05:47] kwwii: except main freeze, which is just at the end [05:47] Tonio_: yeah, but eventually we need to test one final set of stuff and see if there are problems [05:47] feature freeze doesn't impact native kubuntu devs like guidance or kds [05:48] kwwii: of course we are not going to change important stuff 3 days before release ;) [05:48] :p [05:48] kwwii: note that this has been done in the past :) [05:49] inclusion of kde 3.4.3 3 days before breezy was out [05:49] a NIGHTARE [05:49] all the the working stuff like kdeprint was crashing etc...... === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:49] systemsettings was not working, so impossible to manage the system for Joe etc...... === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A60502.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:56] hehe [06:56] sorry, I was making dinner [06:59] hum this seb__ guy is basKet upstream :) [06:59] hehe, interesting to have him here, interested in kubuntu === kozz_ [i=kozz@h18n2fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:03] ;-) === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N743P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas_ [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-125-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-254-208.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio___ [n=tonio@171.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar [n=ingmar@d51A4875A.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@253.Red-88-10-62.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-226-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-175.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio___ [n=tonio@171.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === GNUrante [n=gnucca@host11-35-static.25-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:37] hi [09:38] imbrandon: ping? [09:38] hi === GNUrante is now known as GNUr [10:05] mooh [10:06] I love Eqonomize! <3<3 [10:06] Riddell: ping? === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@69-87-139-42.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:32] edgy universe repository works? [10:35] imbrandon: Knot2/Knot3 is not compattible and the wifi in the macbook :( [10:44] while knot 3's kernel is newer than knot 2's, we have a new kernel being spun [11:06] erk, must be a better way to do it than that [11:06] danimo: hi === rouzic_ [n=rouzic@9.Red-88-10-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic_ [n=rouzic@9.Red-88-10-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:46] erm, which package are the new window buttons in? === jott_ [n=j@e178114194.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:53] Riddell: which package has the kubuntu window buttons? the old ones are still in kwin-style-crystal it seems [12:05] i did a couple of those libgamin fixes yesterday and put them on revu..anyone revu and upload if possible, thanks ;)