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DaSkreechcheck the banner command?12:09
_robno, the banner command won't do exactly wat i want12:10
_robit's to simple12:10
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_robI need pictures and stuff with it, basicly I wish OO could print things larger that the paper like that12:10
DaSkreechDidn't think so :) was worth a try12:10
Kr4t05Does anyone know what version of the kernel update is broken?12:11
DaSkreechask in #openoffice.org if there is a filter for that. Though they are kinda silent12:11
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_robyea, 2 people in there, no sign of life12:12
Kr4t05Does anyone here know what version of the kernel update is broken?12:13
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Kr4t05It's .47, right?12:14
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octanis ther a gui  tool for setiing up runlevels ?12:19
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octani mean what to startup and not to startup ... stuff like that12:20
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root_probe connection !?12:21
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boeroejust tried my wireless assistant on an averatec series 3700 laptop and the system freezes. what is the problem12:31
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octanis ther a too like ksysv ? i need another tool like that,, coz kvsys is buggy on my system12:32
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draikAnyone know the name of the w32 app for viewing linux partitions in NTFS12:40
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nimmrodhello12:40
nimmrodi dont know how to use kubuntu12:40
draikhello12:40
nimmrodhow do i install packages?12:40
draikwhat are you trying to do?12:40
draikdepends12:41
nimmrodi want to install apache12:41
nimmrodhow do i use he package administrator?12:42
draikopen up konsole (K Menu > System > Konsole) and type   sudo apt-get install apache12:42
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nimmrodhold on...12:42
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DaSkreechnimmrod: It will ask you for a password. It means your password12:43
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nimmroddraik: give me 5 minutes to find out if it works 'cause im on windows (stupid :( (brb)12:43
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nimmrodok12:47
nimmrodim with linux now12:47
nimmrodhehe12:47
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install apache12:48
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nimmrodhmm.. says it can't find the package12:48
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Kr4t05apache212:49
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BluDog_Anchoritenimmrod: you might need to set up our sources/repo's12:49
DaSkreechah WHoops. Apache is universe12:49
nimmrodnop... but i dont think its even trying12:49
DaSkreechnimmrod: Try apache212:49
nimmrodthe message appears too fast12:49
DaSkreechnimmrod: I can explain that but it does work12:50
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DaSkreechHave you tried apache2?12:50
nimmrodyes12:50
nimmrodsame error12:50
DaSkreechHmm12:50
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DaSkreechdo you know pastebin?12:51
nimmrodits very strange... when i tru the "su" command and type my password returns "Authentication failure"12:51
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DaSkreechnimmrod: Try sudo su12:51
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nimmrodthat one worked12:52
steveirenimmrod: You haven't set a root password.12:52
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nimmrodapparently not12:52
nimmrodi dont know12:52
DaSkreechDoesn't need one :)12:52
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steveireYou set a password for your nimmrod account, but not your root account.12:52
DaSkreechok nimmrod Do you know pastebin?12:52
nimmrodyes12:52
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DaSkreechCan you pastbin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:53
nimmrodbut i have to warn you... its in spanish12:53
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nimmrodoh.. ok...12:53
nimmrodjust a sec12:53
nimmrodits a directory, right?12:55
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DaSkreechIt's a file you can open it in kate12:56
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DaSkreechor your editor of choice12:56
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Stardog!rip12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
Stardog!mp312:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:57
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ephelp page for w32codecs?12:57
nimmrodok... i opened it12:57
DaSkreechep: See above12:57
DaSkreechnimmrod: Can You pastebin it ?12:58
DaSkreech!paste12:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:58
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nimmrodim on it12:58
nimmrodbut the page wont load12:58
DaSkreech>_<12:58
DaSkreechtry pastebin.ca12:58
epyes page won't load12:59
DaSkreechep:Which?12:59
Tonititoservidor espaol de ubuntu?12:59
nimmrodhttp://pastebin.ca/17344612:59
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epfinally did, nm12:59
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DaSkreechnimmrod: That would explain a lot01:00
nimmrodwhat is it?01:01
DaSkreechYOu have everythign commented out01:02
nimmrodlol01:02
nimmrodwhich lines should i uncomment?01:02
DaSkreechWhat did you use to open it?01:02
nimmrodKate01:02
DaSkreechOK close kate and from the terminal type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:03
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Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech, he can also do that from "run command" in K menu01:03
Admiral_Chicagocommand line really shouldn't be used to launch GUI01:03
DaSkreechI think that nimmrod already has a command line up :)01:03
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Tell that to X :-P01:04
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nimmroddone01:04
nimmrodits empty now01:04
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nimmrod:-s01:05
DaSkreechOk HOld on01:05
DaSkreechhttp://pastebin.ca/17345601:06
DaSkreechUse that01:06
nimmrodand save...?01:06
nimmrodok, done01:06
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DaSkreechYup01:08
DaSkreechok open adept01:08
DaSkreechMight as well teach you a little about it01:08
nimmrodadept?01:08
DaSkreechAlt+Space -> Adept01:08
DaSkreechJust type ade  and press enter01:08
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Kr4t05Woah01:09
nimmrodok01:09
Kr4t05I never knew about Katapult.01:09
DaSkreechIt rocks your world01:09
Kr4t05I always used Alt+F201:09
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nimmrodexcelente01:09
nimmrodexcelent!01:09
DaSkreech:-)01:09
DaSkreechNow when Adept opens up press Fetch Updates01:10
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Kr4t05The one thing about using Windows in VMware is that it tends to slice up your RAM, making things less responsive all around. ><01:11
nimmrodwhere is that?01:11
garret_All, I need help installing Acrobat 7.0.  I got the tar file and have extracted and copied the files out to a dir, but do not know how to "run the install script"  The install --help did no help.01:12
DaSkreechIt's a button on Adept01:12
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DaSkreechYou put in your password?01:12
nimmrodno01:12
DaSkreechgarret_: Why do you need Acrobat?01:12
nimmrodnever asked01:12
DaSkreechnimmrod: YOu did the Alt+space and typed adept?01:13
garret_<nimmrod> Want to use the fillable form fields in PDF's01:13
garret_<DaSkreech> Sorry, bad copy - to use the PDF form fields.01:13
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DaSkreechnimmrod: And it never asked for your password01:14
nimmrodno01:15
Stardogdoes anyone know if there's mobilephone managers for linux?01:15
Stardoglike a program01:15
DaSkreechHmm Ok try Kmenu -> System -> Adept01:15
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nimmrodok01:17
nimmrodstill is not asking me for a password01:17
DaSkreechargh ok forget adept :)01:17
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garret_Here is the text from Acrobat intall directions 4. In the newly created AdobeReader directory, run the INSTALL script.01:17
nimmrodmaybe im as root already01:17
DaSkreechtype sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apache201:17
DaSkreechnimmrod: It opened?01:17
nimmrodyes01:18
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gnomefreakanyone feeling smart?01:18
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DaSkreechcat /proc/cpuinfo01:19
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gnomefreakty01:19
DaSkreechnimmrod: And you don't see a fetch Updates button?01:19
nimmrodmaybe... because this thing its in spanish01:19
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DaSkreechnimmrod: Of course  haha01:20
Ayabarahi guys. what can I use in kubuntu to join avi/mpeg files?01:20
nimmrodhahaha01:20
DaSkreechIt's a button with a circle of arrows01:20
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nimmrodoh.. hen yes.. i pressed it01:20
DaSkreechgarret_: Is the install script executable?01:21
DaSkreechnimmrod: And you see al list of progams come up?01:21
nimmrodyes01:21
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garret_daskreech, not shure how to tell it is in all caps01:21
DaSkreechnimmrod: in the box you can write in type apache01:22
nimmrodafter pressing enter nothing happens01:22
garret_DsSkreech: It shows as a Shell Script in Konqueror01:23
narg!restrictedformats01:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:23
narg!mp301:23
nargAyabara: That should lead you to the answer.01:24
Ayabaranarg: thanks01:24
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garret_All got it "./INSTALL" Tried that before, but in lower case.01:25
nimmrodDaSkreech: in the search box i type apache, then press enter.. right?01:26
DaSkreechgarret_: Cool :)01:27
DaSkreechnimmrod: It should filter the programs beneath it01:27
nimmrodyeah.. all the list beneath dissappears but the list end up empty01:27
nimmrodi dont think its connecting the server01:28
DaSkreechUmm. Not sure.01:28
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DaSkreechHow many packages are available? It should say in the bottom of hte window01:29
nimmrod94201:29
nimmrod942 of 942 installed01:29
Kr4t05nimmrod: enable universe?01:30
nimmrodits definetly not conneting with the server01:30
nimmrodwhat do u mean?01:30
Kr4t05-.-01:30
Kr4t05!universe01:30
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:30
nimmrodall the checkbox are checked01:30
Stardog!beer01:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:31
Stardogloll01:31
DaSkreechnimmrod: Yeah I think that's correct01:32
nimmrodwhat is DaSkreech?01:33
DaSkreechnimmrod: Under view -> show last download do any of them fail?01:33
DaSkreechnimmrod: That it is not seeing the server01:33
nimmrodi dont see any of them01:34
nimmrodprogress bar is on 0%01:34
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llxcamxll!homosexuality01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about homosexuality - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
llxcamxlli bet you don't01:35
DaSkreech!fishing01:35
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops01:35
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llxcamxlllol01:35
Kr4t05Thank you, DaSkreech01:35
DaSkreechnimmrod: Yup that's a problem01:35
DaSkreechcan you ping the server?01:36
llxcamxll!ping01:36
ubotuping: connection timeout01:36
nimmrodlet me try01:36
llxcamxllubotu dun like me01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dun like me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
llxcamxllnasty bot01:36
DaSkreechStop playing with it01:37
llxcamxllis he gettung angry01:37
DaSkreechNo but you are spamming the channel01:37
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nimmrodserver's up... none packet lost01:37
nimmrodits so strange01:37
llxcamxllwith one liners01:37
MenZabed.01:37
nimmrodso rare01:37
llxcamxlllike you running 32x32 resolution??01:38
llxcamxllno the spam, too much spam01:39
garret_Now, how does one delete a directory/folder that has files in them redir does not work.01:40
DaSkreechrm -rf01:40
garret_Thank you01:40
DaSkreechnimmrod: what happens if you do a sudo apt-get update ?01:40
garret_DaSkreech: Thanks again, did google search to no luck. I thought it was a command with a flag, but could not remember.01:41
DaSkreechrmdir might work as well I forget01:42
nimmrod(im translating from spanish): reading list of packages. . . Done01:42
nimmrodnothing else01:42
llxcamxllnimrod: have you done the multiverse thing01:42
nimmrodmultiverse?01:42
llxcamxlloh01:43
llxcamxllso like you haven't added multiverse to any of the repositories01:43
DaSkreechnimmrod: Hold on01:43
nimmrodi dont even know what is that01:43
llxcamxllok01:43
llxcamxllhave you got adept open01:43
nimmrodyes01:43
llxcamxllhow many packages are available to you, should say at the bottom01:44
nimmrod94201:44
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llxcamxllok, there are some things you gotta change01:44
nimmrodok....01:45
DaSkreechllxcamxll: See if you had been listening instead of playing with ubotu :-P01:45
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llxcamxllgo to manage repositories in the menu up top of the window01:45
llxcamxlllol01:45
nimmrodhahaha01:45
nimmrodok llxcamxll01:46
nimmroddone01:46
DaSkreechnimmrod: http://pastebin.ca/17348001:46
DaSkreechreplace your sources.list with that01:46
llxcamxllok, any of the reps that start with deb and deb-src01:46
DaSkreechllxcamxll: He has them already01:46
llxcamxllright click and enable them then apply01:46
llxcamxllok01:46
DaSkreechllxcamxll: that's not the problem01:46
nimmrodhehe01:46
llxcamxllwhat about multiverse01:46
ErtainHello everyone.  I'm trying to get an xscreensaver to work with KDE.  Though I have written up a *.desktop file and placed it in the right spot (/usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers) and have placed the right xscreensaver file into the /usr/bin/ directory, it still doesn't work.  Any ideas?  If anyone wants to, I can post the *.desktop file.01:46
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Has it01:46
llxcamxllhmm01:47
llxcamxllcan't be right if he can't access all the packages01:47
DaSkreechnimmrod: Do the kdesu kate thing again01:47
DaSkreechYou can just press up :)01:47
DaSkreechllxcamxll: He can't get contact the servers01:47
llxcamxllnimrod: what reps have multiverse next to them01:47
llxcamxllhmm01:48
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Look at the pastebin I just posted01:48
nimmroddone01:48
llxcamxlli just don't understand why he can start adept though can't reach servers01:49
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llxcamxllnimrod can you tell me which reps have got universe multiverse next to them01:50
nimmrodit is very rare01:50
nimmrodi dont know either01:50
nimmrodhehehe01:50
llxcamxllwhat you mean?01:50
nimmrodi have no idea why i cant connect to the server01:51
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llxcamxllwhich server though, you mean the one to get all the packages01:51
nimmrodyes01:51
llxcamxllok01:51
llxcamxllare you still in adept01:52
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nimmrodyes01:52
llxcamxllgo to manage repositories01:52
nimmrodok01:52
DaSkreechnimmrod: Fetch updates first01:52
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Have you even looked at the pastebin?01:52
llxcamxllnope01:52
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llxcamxllits a simple problem01:53
nimmroddone that01:53
DaSkreechnimmrod: How many packages do you have now?01:53
llxcamxllnow look at the column to the left of the reps and tell me which ones have multiverse next to it01:53
nimmrodsame number01:53
nimmrod94201:53
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llxcamxllto the right i mean01:54
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Have fun. When you solve it ping me01:54
llxcamxlllol...kk01:54
nimmrod401:54
nimmrodbut is not multiverse but universe01:55
llxcamxllcould you paste the name of the rep01:55
nimmrod# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:01:55
nimmroddeb http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted01:55
nimmrod# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:01:55
nimmroddeb-src http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted01:55
nimmrod01:55
nimmrod## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the01:55
nimmrod## distribution.01:55
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nimmrodim sorry01:56
nimmrodi dont know hy it did that01:56
nimmrodsorry sorry01:56
llxcamxllhow many lines are there that start in either deb or deb-src01:56
nimmrodhttp://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/01:56
nimmrodthats the server01:56
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llxcamxllok01:57
llxcamxllhmm01:57
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nimmrodomg01:58
nimmrodi think i got it01:58
DaSkreechIt's updating now?01:58
llxcamxllwhat you done01:58
llxcamxllenable?01:58
DaSkreechpressed fetch updates I'll bet01:58
nimmrodno... i just found two source list files01:58
Martijn81argh, what is my ISP doing!01:58
nimmrodone is sources.list and the other one is source.list01:59
DaSkreech>_<01:59
DaSkreechof course01:59
llxcamxllhmm01:59
nimmrodboth should be uncomment, right?01:59
llxcamxllso how many packages you getting now01:59
DaSkreechonly sources.list counts02:00
nimmrodwait wait.. ims still editing the files02:00
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nimmrodhow was the kdesu thing again??02:01
llxcamxll!kdesu02:02
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo02:02
nimmrodnow i cant open the file....!! arrrg02:03
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nimmrod"Failed to open devide"02:04
nimmroddevice*02:04
llxcamxllkdesu adept02:04
llxcamxll?02:04
llxcamxlllike wtf02:04
llxcamxllnimrod what are you trying to achieve, it might be easier to figure out02:04
llxcamxlli timed out02:05
nimmrodim trying to modify the source.list file02:06
llxcamxlland why is this02:06
nimmrodbecause is commented02:06
nimmrodeverything02:06
llxcamxlllol02:06
llxcamxllso you still got no packages other than the installation ones?02:06
DaSkreechnimmrod: the sources.list is the important02:06
nimmrodi know but now i cant modify the damn file!! the kadesu kate cant failes!!!!02:07
nimmrodi mean02:07
nimmrodi type kdesu kate /etc/apt/source.list02:07
gekko`why not open a terminal and use vim or nano? :-)02:07
DaSkreechkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:07
nimmrodOutput: "Failed to open device"02:08
DaSkreechnimmrod: Yeah that's normal. Isn't kate open?02:09
nimmrodno02:09
DaSkreechtry sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:09
llxcamxlldaskreech can you explain to me what he's trying to do and why?02:10
nimmrodhow i save the changes02:11
nimmrod?02:11
llxcamxllthis is doing my head in02:12
DaSkreechCtrl+O02:12
DaSkreechllxcamxll: He wants to install apache :)02:12
llxcamxlloh02:12
llxcamxlli see, but like does he still have the package prblem02:12
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Yep :) you seem to be on top of the situation02:13
llxcamxlllol02:13
DaSkreechnimmrod: Ctrl+X to exit02:13
llxcamxllwell like all you gotta do is multiverse the right reps and enable the deb and deb-src's and fetch updates and you flying02:14
nimmrodsame problem02:15
llxcamxllok nimrod, are you listening?02:16
DaSkreechllxcamxll: give him a break :-)02:17
llxcamxllhmm02:17
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nimmrodi dont know anything about this OS!! i dont know what do you mean with multiverse :-(02:18
llxcamxllok02:18
llxcamxlli'll tell you man02:18
llxcamxllsimple as, just gotta follow step by step02:18
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Help him with his problem first :)02:18
nimmrodok02:18
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llxcamxllwhat with obtaining apache?, or reps02:19
nimmrodhuh?02:19
llxcamxlllol02:19
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llxcamxllok open adept02:19
DaSkreechobtaining apache that's what he wanted when he came in02:19
llxcamxllhow he gonna get it if he ain't got the reps working02:19
nimmrodor anything... doesnt matter.. i want to be able to install any package02:19
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llxcamxllok02:20
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Then you need to help with that02:20
DaSkreech:-)02:20
llxcamxlllol02:20
llxcamxllat the top right of the window nimrod select manage repositories02:20
freedom02:20
freedomgnome 2.1602:20
nimmrodproblem solved02:20
nimmrodhahahahaha02:20
llxcamxllhuh02:20
nimmrodyeaaaaayyy02:20
nimmrodhahaha02:20
llxcamxlltell me you didn't just click on fetch updates02:21
nimmrodno..02:21
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nimmrodit was the source.list file02:21
DaSkreechnimmrod: Told you :)02:21
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freedomhi all , how to upgrade to gnome 2.1602:21
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nimmrodthank you very much you both helped me out... thank you02:21
DaSkreechfreedom: Maybe try in #ubuntu ?02:21
llxcamxllall good02:21
DaSkreechnimmrod: ok now llxcamxll is going to explain multiverse to you :)02:21
llxcamxllso you got all the packages then nimrod02:21
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nimmrodok02:22
nimmrodyes i think so02:22
DaSkreechHow many do you see now?02:22
llxcamxllhow many packages are there available02:22
llxcamxlllol02:22
DaSkreechMore than 900? :)02:22
nimmrod1884602:22
llxcamxllits done them02:22
llxcamxll*then'02:22
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nimmrod:-)02:22
llxcamxlllol02:23
DaSkreechllxcamxll: Go ahead and explain multiverse :)02:23
ash__hi02:23
DaSkreechHe can listen while installing apache ;-)02:23
DaSkreechash__: hi02:23
llxcamxllwhat to explain02:23
ash__nice system02:23
nimmrodhehe02:24
nimmrodyeah02:24
DaSkreechllxcamxll: What it is and why is it different from universe I guess02:24
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ash__grad mal installiert02:24
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llxcamxllto be honest i don't really know, but like i had the same probs as nimrod and thats all i did02:24
llxcamxllon two of my reps i added the multiverse02:25
LeeJunFan!multiverse02:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:25
ash__mit live cd find ich ne tolle sache02:25
llxcamxlland enabled all deb, deb-src reps then fetched updates02:25
ash__und die installation ist kinderleicht02:25
llxcamxllwam bam02:25
nimmrodhehe02:25
DaSkreech!de02:25
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:26
ash__kennt jemand ein gutes tut zum kernel anpassen?02:26
nimmroddonde... apache with PHP modules and everything.. sweet! :-D02:26
DaSkreechnimmrod, llxcamxll: both of you read that link then :)02:26
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nimmroddone*02:26
llxcamxlldun worry nimrod i'm new to this non-microsoft universe02:26
llxcamxllahh no negative on the reading02:26
DaSkreechDon't use no Double negatives!02:27
llxcamxlllol02:27
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llxcamxllspam02:27
DaSkreech:-)02:27
ash__sry02:27
ash__cu02:27
llxcamxllchoi02:28
llxcamxlli need a hobby02:28
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DaSkreechash__: No problem02:28
DaSkreechllxcamxll: What do you like doing?02:28
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llxcamxllmoth hunting and bird watching02:28
llxcamxlllol02:28
[Relic] anyone good with installing modules?02:29
DaSkreechbackyard scientist02:29
llxcamxllhave my moments02:29
llxcamxllyou should of seen the chlorine, break fluid incident of 9902:29
DaSkreech:-)02:30
DaSkreechWell if you want you can help out with Kubuntu :)02:30
llxcamxllto be honest just getting things to work on here is a hobby in its self02:30
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llxcamxlland how would i do that, post stuff in the forums02:30
llxcamxlllol02:30
DaSkreechAnd the wiki02:30
DaSkreech That's the low impact easy way :)02:31
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llxcamxllthink i'll pass on that one02:31
DaSkreechKool02:31
llxcamxlli couldn't really help dude, i'm pretty much a freestyler02:31
llxcamxllno real method, just the madness02:32
DaSkreech:-)02:32
llxcamxllhmm02:33
llxcamxllcan i put kubuntu on an xbox??02:33
DaSkreechPretty sure you can. They have a render farm with them I think02:34
DaSkreechCompile farm sorry02:34
llxcamxlli heard you can't actually just boot from the cd, you gotta like do something to the flashcard02:34
[Relic] put blender on them and you can have a render farm  :)02:35
mike_cross compile02:35
mike_?02:35
llxcamxlli need kaffiene02:35
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llxcamxll!compile farm02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compile farm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
mike_k..02:36
llxcamxll!cross compile02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cross compile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
[Relic] !module installation02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about module installation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
llxcamxlllol02:37
mike_ok..02:37
llxcamxll!msgsrv3202:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msgsrv32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:37
mike_sorry..02:37
llxcamxlllol02:37
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llxcamxll!advanced dillusionary pschytsophrenia with involuntary narcasistic rage02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about advanced dillusionary pschytsophrenia with involuntary narcasistic rage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
[Relic] !bot abuse02:38
ubotuPlease don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot02:38
llxcamxll!caring02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about caring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
[Relic] !installing modules02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about installing modules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
llxcamxll!bot abuse02:39
ubotuPlease don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot02:39
[Relic] !ovachip02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ovachip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
DaSkreechStop playing with the bot in the chan please02:40
DaSkreechuse /msg ubotu question02:41
DaSkreechYou can abuse it like crazy there if you like02:41
llxcamxlli enjoy stamp collecting and collage projects02:42
llxcamxllpaper mache02:42
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[Relic] guess I need to go to the forums  :)02:43
mike_xorry..i cant help...02:45
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timpinohow do you install rar?02:46
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DaSkreechtimpino: To rar something up or to unrar a rar file?02:47
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timpinoI need to unrar a dl02:47
timpinojust installed the kubuntu system02:47
DaSkreech!unrar02:47
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free02:47
timpinobasicly I have to use a term to unrar it02:49
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timpino?02:50
Hawkwindtimpino: You can do it from within konqueror02:50
November!restricted02:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:50
timpinoreally?02:50
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Hawkwindtimpino: If you have unrar installed ark will pick it up and unrar the files when you right click and choose 'Extract'02:50
November!codecs02:50
timpinohow do I install it then? can't find an install...02:50
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November!responsitories02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about responsitories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:51
November!reponsitories02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reponsitories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:51
Hawkwind!repositories > November02:52
llxcamxll!repositories02:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:52
NovemberTahnks02:52
Hawkwindtimpino: Read the info above that ubotu gave02:52
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timpinoactually the bot refered to a 40402:53
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llxcamxllit doesn't like you02:54
DaSkreechtimpino: take off the . at the end02:54
DaSkreech /me thought he had fixed that02:55
Hawkwindtimpino: They all work here02:55
DaSkreechHawkwind: It doesn't :)02:55
HawkwindDaSkreech: It does here02:55
DaSkreech!unrar > Hawkwind02:55
NovemberWhat I should add behind the conponents to download packages02:55
nimmrodwhats the package i should download so i can listen to mp3 files?02:55
NovemberI forgot about it02:55
DaSkreechHawkwind: You clicked it?02:55
HawkwindDaSkreech: Oh the unrar one02:55
HawkwindI was doing restricted, sorry :)02:55
timpinolol02:56
timpino:)02:56
DaSkreechnimmrod: libxine-extracodecs02:56
llxcamxllok nimrodd i suggest xmms player02:56
timpinothanks02:56
llxcamxlloh02:56
nimmrodok02:56
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llxcamxlllol02:56
HawkwindDaSkreech: Fixed!02:57
DaSkreech!unrar02:57
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free02:57
DaSkreechThanks I had submitted it two weeks ago I think02:57
HawkwindAh, I didn't have bot access then or wasn't an op then either :)02:57
DaSkreechWhich reminds me Jucato wants !ph changed02:58
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HawkwindDaSkreech: He has bot access too02:59
DaSkreech!ph02:59
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog02:59
timpino!info unrar-free02:59
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB02:59
DaSkreechHmm Figured he would have done somethign about that by now02:59
HawkwindDaSkreech: He probably just forgot03:00
DaSkreechYeah I"ll pong him03:00
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NovemberGuys, there is a w32codec. I forgot where to get it. can u tell me?03:01
Hawkwind!info w32codecs03:01
ubotuw32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)03:01
DaSkreechIt's on the restrictedFormats page03:01
DaSkreechYou are joking :)03:01
DaSkreechis there anything useful that seveas doesn't package?03:01
HawkwindHah03:02
NovemberWhat i should add to components to download more package?03:02
DaSkreechHe saved my butt about 6 months back03:02
Hawkwind!repos > November03:02
HawkwindNovember: Read the info the bot just pm'd you with03:02
Novembernono i mean add something behind components tabs03:02
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DaSkreechNovember: I'm lost which application is this?03:04
DaSkreechBye Nimmrod!03:04
NovemberDaSkreech : inside managine repositories03:04
llxcamxllnimrod has left the building03:04
Novemberi need to edit some sources list03:05
DaSkreechNovember: ahh Just click on it03:05
DaSkreechMight be double clik. You can edit it right there03:05
NovemberDaSkreech : i forgot wat to put XD03:05
DaSkreechNovember: What do you want there?03:06
DaSkreechMan I should Ask amarok to marry me03:06
Novemberi wanna add mulitversi03:06
llxcamxlllol the multiverse03:06
claydohlol amarok is my mistress'03:07
Novemberdapper multiverse03:07
Novemberor dapper/multiverse03:07
llxcamxlldapper universe multiverse?03:07
Novemberi think so XD03:08
josh_xgl03:08
josh_!xgl03:08
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:08
DaSkreechNovember: It's added after universe on the line like deb http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe03:08
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DaSkreechWhich reminds me if anyone sees Noisemo ping me03:08
llxcamxlldaskreech that was like the one thing i knew how to do03:09
llxcamxllstolen the thunder03:09
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DaSkreechllxcamxll: Soory dood :) I'll keep quiet when it comes to repos :)03:09
llxcamxlllol03:09
timpinowoooo03:09
llxcamxllnah you the man03:09
timpinoI think it's working03:10
timpino:)03:10
DaSkreechtimpino: W00t!03:10
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simp!tkip03:10
pierrethHow can I get version.h?03:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tkip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
simpis there any way i could use wifi that is secured with tkip?03:11
simpi'm in from windows right now because i can't access internet thourgh kubuntu03:11
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DaSkreechI've never heard of tkip03:13
simpwpa-tkip if i'm right03:13
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simpsorry03:14
simpWPA-tkip ;)03:14
llxcamxlli know this sounds a bit out there but can i use some sort of emulator to put photo shop on kubuntu03:15
claydohyou might try wine for photoshop03:15
unix_infidel!wine03:15
DaSkreechllxcamxll: DontlikeKritaorimp?03:15
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:15
claydohbut it won't be easy03:15
unix_infidelPS7 is easy to get going.03:16
llxcamxlloh03:16
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unix_infidelPS 8 (CS) and PS 9 (CS2) are very difficult.03:16
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simpllxcamxll it will be really slow03:16
simpi know i've tryied03:16
unix_infidelthat's not necessarily true.03:16
simpat least ps 8 was03:17
simpi did get it working03:17
llxcamxllwhats the linux equivalent to photoshop??03:17
simpgimp03:17
simpanyway another try to get wpa-tkip working03:17
timpinoWoooo even got vlc to play the movie!03:17
November!restricted03:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:19
November!unrestricted03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unrestricted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
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kbrooks!freeformats03:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:21
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timpino!mp303:24
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simpnow i installed knetworkmanager and it gets stuck(while connecting) on 28%(configuring device it says)03:27
simp!tell simp about knetworkmanager03:28
simp!knetworkmanager03:28
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB03:28
timpinohmmm installed the packages but mp3 dosn't play03:29
timpino!mp303:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:29
simptimpino you used the "hurry" one?03:30
timpinohurry?03:31
timpinoi don't want to convert 80 GBs of mp3 music03:31
timpinoso if there is a goof codec to dl ill be please03:32
timpinod03:32
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DaSkreechlibxine-extracodecs03:33
timpinoyeah i did that03:34
timpinobut xmms didn't play03:34
timpinodled some gstreamers now03:34
timpinono change03:34
epIn regards to multimedia, is there a package for the free formats ogg vorbis are or they already installed?03:35
DaSkreechtimpino: try amarok?03:36
timpinoI think ogg comes with the system03:36
DaSkreechep: Should work out of the box03:36
timpinonothing03:36
rylasasinis there a way to make MP3s on websites play through either firefox or conquerer?03:36
timpinoit just wont play... :@03:36
LeeJunFaneven some of the kde sounds are ogg, perhaps it's a lower level sound problem?03:37
rylasasinlike on YTMND03:37
DaSkreechtimpino: Does anything play?03:37
timpinoyeah my video I dl:d plays fine03:37
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DaSkreechrylasasin: Far as I know that's a flash site03:37
DaSkreechtimpino: Music and all?03:37
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timpinoif you mean is there audio in the video then yes03:38
rylasasinwell i installed flash and the mp3s don't play03:38
DaSkreechOh Right :)03:39
pk0ninkdoes anyone know - I'm having a hard time setting up vsftpd.conf, specifically setting up the vsftpd.chroot_list03:39
pk0ninki'm setting up file-sharing - uaing avahi03:40
pk0nink*using avahi03:40
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simpso...03:40
DaSkreechrylasasin: have you installed libxine-extracodecs?03:40
simpdoes anyone know anything about connection to wifi wich is secured with WPA?03:41
simpit just freezes on 28% of connecting03:41
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obf213hey if i shut down when im logged in i get an x error how do if ix this03:42
obf213the screens goes black like its about to show the shutdown secquence but thein i just see two gray rectangles03:43
obf213and eventually it will shutdown/restart03:43
DaSkreechobf213: Check your X logs03:43
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timpinook, tried dling everything on the hurrylist03:43
nimrodheeyyy03:43
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nimrodi installed firefox but i dont know how to make it work :-s03:44
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nimrodhaha03:44
llxcamxllalt f203:44
llxcamxllfirefox03:44
timpinoNothing03:44
DaSkreechWell you have to  be on the internet :)03:44
nimrodhahaha03:44
nimrodgreate03:44
nimrodi want a shortcut now03:45
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simpnimrod don't you have it in the "start menu" - internet?03:45
nimrodyep but ot firefox03:45
obf213DaSkreech, how do i check my X logs03:45
DaSkreechIt's in /var/log/X.0.log03:46
LeeJunFannimrod: open konsole and run 'kbuildsycoca' it will rebuild the menu for you.03:46
nimrodbut... i installed firefox because i dont know how to install the adobe flash player plugin for konqueror03:46
timpinoupdate: mp3playback works in gxine03:46
DaSkreech!flash03:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:46
nimrodthank you LeeJunFan03:46
DaSkreechtimpino: What engine?03:46
timpinooooh03:46
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timpinodon't know, how can i check?03:46
obf213DaSkreech: i have no such log :(03:47
obf213nvm. its named diff03:47
DaSkreechOk03:47
obf213DaSkreech: um what am i lookinf for in the lg03:48
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DaSkreechobf213: Errors? :)03:48
obf213hopefull it says errors in the log03:48
timpinoxine03:48
obf213lol ill check03:48
DaSkreechand it doesn't work in Amarok?03:48
timpinoit's a xine player03:48
DaSkreechobf213: I think that EE shows an error03:49
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obf213yeah03:49
obf213the only error it found was03:49
timpinoffmpegaudio03:50
obf213cannot open /dev/wacom03:50
timpinocould that be the mp3 decoder03:50
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lufisI'm running Ubuntu and want to give KDE a try but don't want all of the kubuntu apps included in the kubuntu-desktop package. How do I get just barebones KDE?03:51
DaSkreechobf213: That's fine03:51
DaSkreechlufis: You do know that there are probably more apps in vanilla KDE?03:52
lufisDaSkreech: :P probably. I don't know exactly how to phrase the question... what I want is a KDE equivalent for gnome-panel, nautilus, metacity, etc. etc., but without kopete, kate, etc03:53
DaSkreechlufis: You want just KDE with no apps?03:54
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lufisDaSkreech: Yes, is that practical?03:54
LeeJunFanthat's hardly trying kde.03:54
DaSkreechkde-core I guess then03:54
lufisDaSkreech: Thanks :)03:54
DaSkreechThis metapackage includes the core official modules released with KDE. This includes just the basic desktop (browser, file manager, text editor, control center, panel, etc.) and important libraries and data, in addition to the aRts soundserve03:54
simpemm how can i connect to a wifi network that is secured with WPA?03:54
DaSkreech!wpa03:55
simpactualy i got to connecting03:55
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:55
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simpbut it hangs up at 28%03:55
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simpDaSkreech: do you know anything about hanging at about 28% and saying that knetworkmanager has been disconnected03:55
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rylasasinyeah libxine-extracodecs are installed03:56
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rylasasinbut I still don't hear anything when I veiw at site at YTMND.com03:57
timpinoAll right, I'm pissed off now, mp3 playback works in both my video players but not in my musicplayers03:59
ironfroggyKubuntu has so pissed me off04:00
ironfroggyi spent weeks playing my list of never before played songs on amarok, so they could get their initial scores.04:01
timpinolol04:01
ironfroggyhad it down to the homestretch, and I had to restart.04:01
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timpinowhy bother?04:01
ironfroggyand when i logged back in, do you know what i found?04:01
ironfroggyAMAROK WASNT INSTALLED04:01
timpinoi can guess04:01
timpinolol04:01
ironfroggywhat the f*ck was i running for three weeks?!04:02
timpinolmao04:02
timpinodoes anyone know why reiserfs is not supported by kubuntu?04:02
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timpino!reiserfs04:02
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.04:02
timpino!idiot04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about idiot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
LeeJunFanhans reiserfs is a suspect in his wifes disappearance.04:03
rylasasin!being stupid04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about being stupid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
timpinolol04:03
simpwhat if knetworkmanager freezes on 28% of connecting to a WPA-Tkip secured wireless network04:03
timpinobots are fun04:03
rylasasinROFLMAO04:03
rylasasin!picking up chicks04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about picking up chicks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
Tm_Tstop fishing04:04
rylasasinXD04:04
rylasasinok i'll stop now04:04
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intelikeyhmmm odd i don't guess i had even noticed   ./blah == .//blah04:05
rylasasinok though seriously i cant hear anything when I vist sites on ytmnd.com... like this one: http://jownstewartbfg.ytmnd.com/04:06
timpinoalright, adept wont start now04:06
rylasasinI should hear a doom music remix but I dont04:06
warpzonerylasasin: try this04:06
warpzonerylasasin: sudo cd /dev && ./ MAKEDEV audio04:07
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intelikeyso complain to the website mantainer for using flash 804:07
MaOn12Hello! I am selling Sony Vaio AR190G Notebooks (Core Duo T2500 2 GHz /17" /2GB DDR2 /200 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm /256MB GDDR SDRam / 17" WUXGA TFT Active Matrix (1920 x 1200)/DVD+-RW- / Blu-Ray disc), brand new for $ 500, if interested send me an e-mail or msg now inti3m@yahoo.com  , Thank You04:07
warpzonewtf04:07
intelikeytell them flash is evil04:07
warpzoneMacromedia and Adobe are merged, aren't they?04:08
LeeJunFanyeah04:09
timpinoWOOOOOOOOO04:09
ironfroggystupid spammer is across all the channels im in!04:09
timpinotalk about being a stupid n00b04:09
warpzoneso is Adobe just anit-linux or pro crap software?04:09
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ironfroggydisgraceful abusing the network on the day of lilo's death.04:09
timpinoremember to press quit on amarok, otherwise it stays alive...04:09
rylasasinsudo: cd: command not found04:09
ironfroggywarpzone: they are pro linux, which is why there is no Flash 9 player YET for linux04:09
TobmeisterHey all, Kubuntu 6.06 user here for the first time on IRC04:10
MaOn12dont call me stupid spammer, you will wake up one day with no fingers, and wont be able to code04:10
TobmeisterTHis is really great!04:10
warpzonecd not found? um, that might be a problem04:10
intelikeywarpzone depends on whom you ask.   imo adobe is just krap   but that's opinion...04:10
Tm_TTobmeister: welcome to wonderland04:10
ironfroggyMaOn12: i hope the next computer that "falls off a truck" lands on your head.04:10
DaSkreechTobmeister: aint it?04:10
warpzonecan somebody please kick Ma0n12?04:10
LeeJunFanintelikey: been using kde too long? you subst k for c ")04:11
Tm_Tironfroggy: MaOn12: drop it04:11
MaOn12will catch it with my strong hands04:11
MaOn12and will sell it to your nephew04:11
intelikeyLeeJunFan it's not a mistake.04:11
Tobmeisterhey, whats the best app to use on my GNU/Linux sys to run IRC?04:11
DaSkreechTobmeister: The one you like04:11
rylasasinsudo cd /dev && ./ MAKEDEV audio doesn't work04:11
Tm_TTobmeister: irssi, but it's not easiest to approach, so I'd say try konversation04:12
DaSkreechyou have konversation kvirc xchat irssi04:12
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warpzonerylasasin: um try them seperately, first cd /dev then sudo ./MAKEDEV audio04:12
Tobmeisterhmm, Will gaim work?  Or is thre another more tecnical app?04:12
Tm_TTobmeister: it's not really good for irc04:13
Kr4t05Bah... ><04:13
intelikeyTobmeister please do your self and all the rest of us a favour.  don't ask what is "best"  it only starts fight.   best is subjective and opeinionative.   there are many 'good' apps but none can be called best.04:13
Tm_Timo04:13
warpzoneTobmeister: if you're using KDE then I'd stay konversation, its nice and easy04:13
warpzoneTobmeister: I want to learn irssi just for fun though04:13
Tobmeisterkonversation, is that packaged with KDE?04:13
Kr4t05I need to install libgtk2.0-dev but it drops me into dependancy hell. ><04:13
rylasasinrylasasin@rylasasin-desktop:/dev$ sudo ./MAKEDEV audio04:13
rylasasinrylasasin@rylasasin-desktop:/dev$04:13
DaSkreechTobmeister: Alt+Space -> Konv -> Enter04:13
rylasasin... dunno if it did anything04:13
bobduhgeek!find osborn04:14
rylasasindidn't show an error or anything04:14
ubotuPackage/file osborn does not exist in dapper04:14
warpzonerylasasin: it redid you audio device04:14
DaSkreechTobmeister: Press Alt+Space and type in Konv04:14
warpzone*your04:14
rylasasinoh04:14
bobduhgeekoh04:14
warpzonerylasasin: close and open firefox, see if it helped with the sound04:14
bobduhgeek@find god04:14
Kr4t05bobduhgeek: please don't be an idiot. :)04:15
DaSkreechbobduhgeek: Stop lpaying with the bot please04:15
warpzonerylasasin: in worked for me, cept I still dont have sound in quicktime... that's a different fix :-P04:15
DaSkreechplaying04:15
bobduhgeek@find joan osborn04:15
Kr4t05!paste04:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:15
Kr4t05bobduhgeek: Stop.04:16
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bobduhgeekwhy?04:16
intelikeybob don't give geeks a bad name04:16
timpino!java04:16
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:16
Kr4t05http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23699 <- My dependancy mess.04:16
bobduhgeekoh this is sad...04:17
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rylasasinno it didn't help04:17
rylasasinbut I did see a thing called uknown pluggin when I clicked on topw here it says missing plugigns requireed04:18
warpzonerylasasin: lolol, okay, what plugin do you need?04:18
warpzonerylasasin: I'm guessing flash?04:18
rylasasindunno I thought I got done installing that04:18
warpzoneIf you click it will tell you what the plugin you need is04:19
rylasasinit just went back to the page I was veiwing :(04:19
intelikeyKr4t05 see if  sudo apt-get install -f libgtkmm-2.4-dev    will fix it.04:20
warpzonerylasasin: hmm, what are you trying to do again, view video?04:20
Kr4t05intelikey: no. Still whines about dependancies. ><04:20
intelikeyKr4t05 then you have repos issues04:21
intelikey!repos04:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:21
rylasasinno hear audio (which on that site its mp3s sometimes wav at others, but mostly mp3s)04:21
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warpzonerylasasin: usually the audio is played through a flash app, I believe04:22
warpzonerylasasin: what guide did you follow to install flash?04:22
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rylasasinthe adobe one04:22
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LeeJunFanKr4t05: you ever install some stuff from a non-standard repository?  ie - other than ubuntu?04:23
warpzonerylasasin: ooooo yup there's the prob, I made the same mistake. I believe the ubuntu wiki has the correct guide for installing the flash plugin04:23
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: No. Just XGL/compiz, and some things from the PLF repos.04:23
Kr4t05I bet I hosed my entire install. ><04:24
Kr4t05Dammit.04:24
warpzonerylasasin: but be aware it's only flash 7, when the current version is 9, so I wouldn't expect too much. Also sound in flash is slightly bunk anyways, might require a fix or too04:24
warpzone*two04:24
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LeeJunFanKr4t05: that's what I meant - likely one of your libs was modified from one of those. I had a similar problem with the xgl stuff, then I went back to standard repos and had problems.04:24
rylasasinso what should I do?04:24
Kr4t05I reset back to my original sources.list, and it gives me something different.04:24
warpzonerylasasin: let me look up the guide for you, one second04:25
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: So, I can blame Quinn-Storm?04:25
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: You don't have any advice for me, do you?04:26
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flaccidwtf is Rob?04:27
Kr4t05flaccid: lilo04:27
flaccidhe died?04:27
rylasasin!winning at life04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winning at life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
Kr4t05flaccid: yeah, biicycle accident.04:28
flacciddang04:28
warpzonerylasain: here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:28
Kr4t05He was hit by a car while out on his bike.04:28
rylasasinnow theres one for YTMND04:28
warpzonerylasasin: scroll down till you see Flash for i38604:28
flaccidyay04:28
LeeJunFanKr4t05: double check your repositories and make sure your dapper-updates are enabled.04:28
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: I did swith back to a vanilla sources.list I had lying around.04:29
warpzonerylasasin: it shows how to enable sound and a bunch of other things you'll probably need. Wiki and forums are great places for info04:29
Tobmeistergreat gottcha, don't ask whats best.  Konversation, great!  thanks04:29
LeeJunFanthe 2.8.17-1ubuntu5 came with dapper, the 2.8.10 is in updates.04:29
DaSkreech>msg Christel Was he the founder of freenode?04:29
LeeJunFanKr4t05: so what likely happened is your lib got updated, then your repos got updates removed, then you try to install dev and it can't find the right version from updates.04:30
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aytchanyone know a goal-tracking program, similiar to http://joesgoals.com ?04:30
aytchI'd prefer something local rather than web start-up-based.04:30
LeeJunFanKr4t05: if you want - paste your sources list file.04:31
intelikeyKr4t05 you did remember to update after the switch ?04:32
Kr4t05intelikey: Yes, I'm not a total noobie. :P04:32
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Kr4t05http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23703 <- This is the source.list I had BEFORE the madness started.04:33
Kr4t05Kr4t05: It may be worth noting that parts of this list were insterted by easyubuntu04:33
Kr4t05Why did I just higlight myself?04:34
intelikeyKr4t05 don't get all defencive, i wasn't calling you names.  just trying to cover all the bases.04:34
Kr4t05intelikey: I'm just joking. :P04:34
LeeJunFanKr4t05: even in that one dapper-updates is missing universe and multiverse04:35
intelikeydeb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main  <<<--- eek04:35
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warpzonehey, with linux and SSH, can I have multiple sessions under the same user name? Like say I want to remote login to my box, from another comp using this name, would I need to close this session first?04:36
LeeJunFanwarpzone: no04:37
LeeJunFanwarpzone: you can login multiple times04:37
Tm_Twarpzone: tell me if you ever hit session limit04:37
warpzoneLeeJunFan: okie thanks, having a hella time trying to do it04:37
Kr4t05Argh...04:37
Kr4t05Still no dice.04:37
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warpzoneTm_T: just getting connection refused, trying to determine why04:38
intelikeyunless things have changed sense i was informed, debian (even though it is the upstreem distro) isn't fully compatable with ubuntu.  it can indeed break things if you randomly install debian.deb's on a ubuntu system or vice-versa04:38
Tm_TKr4t05: use cards instead04:38
LeeJunFanKr4t05: what sources.list do you have now?04:38
Tm_Tintelikey: sure04:38
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: The one I pasted, with universe and multiverse added to dapper-updates04:38
Kr4t05warpzone: No, you should be able to have multiple sessions under the same user.04:39
Kr4t05Oh, I'm too slow.04:39
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Tm_Twarpzone: ok, sounds like you don't have ssh server running ;)04:40
intelikeythe number of sessions is configurable04:40
Tm_T!ssh04:40
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:40
Tobmeisterdoes anyone know if there is an IRC for Nvu?04:40
DaSkreechTobmeister: Doubt it. You can ask on irc.mozilla.org04:40
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DaSkreechhybrid: Coolie?04:41
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rylasasinnope still no sounds04:41
rylasasinhttp://hobocruisedoom.ytmnd.com/ like if you go here04:41
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rylasasinyou shoudl here a doom remix04:41
rylasasindoes anyone else not hear a doom remix?04:42
Kr4t05intelikey: You just made me realize what I screwed up.04:42
Kr4t05intelikey: Damn easycam.04:42
Kr4t05><04:42
hybridyes04:42
Kr4t05I just got everything set up the way I like, and now I have to reinstall...04:42
Kr4t05I'm this close to pressing caps lock and venting...04:42
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intelikeyeven a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then04:43
rylasasinwell I gtg04:43
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rylasasintell me how to get sound on here when I get back04:43
Kr4t05Man, now I want to cry.04:44
Kr4t05I have to reinstall, don't I?04:44
LeeJunFanKr4t05: that line you changed in sources - it's -src.04:44
DaSkreechha ha I hear the doom remix :)04:44
LeeJunFanKr4t05: it needs to have a line like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main universe multiverse restricted04:44
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: No, I got both of them04:44
LeeJunFannot deb-src04:44
LeeJunFanoh, I didn't even see a non src in there.04:45
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: I'm not fucking blind, I got both of them.04:45
LeeJunFanKr4t05: and you did update repos after editing it?04:45
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Wait...04:45
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: You were right.04:46
Tobmeistercaio all talk to you later04:46
warpzoneDaSkreech: hmm I defintely don't. need to work on that :-P04:46
Kr4t05!easysource04:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:47
warpzonewooo remote login, now to try fowarding X04:48
llxcamxlldamn i missed it04:48
DaSkreech!language > Kr4t0504:49
llxcamxllhey anyone know of a photo shop equivalent besides gimp04:49
intelikeyhmmm i was about to do something silly, and useless; someone talk me out of it, i was about to install a kernel04:49
Kr4t05DaSkreech: Spamming me won't make me any more cheerful.04:50
DaSkreechintelikey: Don't04:50
warpzonellxcamxll: can try paintshop through wine, thats really it04:50
intelikeyty DaSkreech04:50
llxcamxllok04:50
intelikeyi'm good now.04:50
USlvlCi read one place how to install compiz with kde04:51
USlvlCand another that u cant do that04:51
USlvlCi think i beleive the latter cuz im just F$#!ed04:51
DaSkreechUSlvlC: Was it older than a day?04:51
LeeJunFanUSlvlC: they are both kind of right.04:51
USlvlCyep04:51
DaSkreechThen they are both out of date :)04:52
LeeJunFanUSlvlC: kde-window-decorations don't work with compiz, you have to use gnome-window-decorations.04:52
intelikeyyeah  out of date....   10104:52
llxcamxllso like if i get wine can i install photoshop under that?04:52
USlvlCoh im way out of date i know that04:52
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intelikeyllxcamxll i don't think wine supports ps  but you can check.  someone else can confirm or refute.04:53
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intelikeycedega maybe04:53
USlvlCso compiz is a window manager on its own....dont try to put it on top of kde04:54
llxcamxllhmmm, i really don't want photo shop, just an equivalent, like gimp is good but i want something a bit better04:54
DaSkreechLeeJunFan: Argh we need to promote http://www.kde-look.org/news/index.php?id=23604:54
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intelikeyyeah i always wanted something a little less 'good' than gimp.   somethin about half way between gimp and kpaint/xpaint04:55
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Kr4t05LeeJunFan: source-o-matic may have brought me back from the edge of oblivion.04:56
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Kr4t05I was this close to using my Windows CD. *shudders*04:56
warpzonehmm that was an adventure, think I'll leave X forwarding for another night :-P04:56
llxcamxlla gimp/photoshop combination is what i'm after04:56
Kr4t05!info gimpshop04:57
DaSkreechgimpshop?04:57
ubotuPackage gimpshop does not exist in any distro I know04:57
Kr4t05Hrm...04:57
Kr4t05Not in repos.04:57
intelikeykr4t05  dont speek such blasphemous words in here....04:57
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epMedia streaming in firefox, do you guys recomend totem-zine or totem-gstreamer or something else?  Also does konqueror do movie clips?04:57
llxcamxllless gimp, more photoshop04:57
llxcamxlluse vlc04:57
Kr4t05llxcamxll: Wine and Photoshop.04:57
intelikeyKr4t05 will it run in wine ?04:57
warpzonedoes photoshop run in wine? last I heard you couldnt get through the install even04:58
Kr4t05intelikey: Hrm...04:58
Kr4t05VMware04:58
warpzonepaintshop, however, is known to work04:58
llxcamxllyeah but no guarantee's, and like running big time images under an emulator04:58
Kr4t05I repeat myself, VMware04:58
Tm_Tgimp <304:58
warpzonecould always remote into a windows machine04:59
llxcamxllfuck that04:59
llxcamxllvmware04:59
llxcamxlltoo much effort04:59
Kr4t05llxcamxll: it's really not that hard04:59
warpzonetut tut such language, could be kids on board04:59
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llxcamxllhmm, sceptical04:59
Hawkwind!language05:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:00
Tm_T:)05:00
Kr4t05And, it's worth the effort, I use it for my webcam and certain other items.05:00
Tm_Tfamily/op friendly05:00
llxcamxlli feel like an as*****05:00
Tm_Tllxcamxll: come on05:00
Hawkwindllxcamxll: Please stop even with the substitutions05:00
llxcamxlllol05:00
Tm_TKr4t05: I use webcam in linux05:00
llxcamxllok05:00
llxcamxlli feel like the effluent of australian society05:01
Tm_Thaha05:01
Kr4t05Tm_T: Sadly, my mutant model of the Logitech QuickCam Express/Go is not supported by spca5xx.05:01
warpzoneKr4t05: you can use VMware to run your cam? I may have to do that. Or yknow, go buy a supported one.05:01
Tm_TKr4t05: :p05:01
warpzoneYeah I have two generic webcams, both slight deviations from the supported models but still no dice using spca5xx05:01
Kr4t05warpzone: I bought this cam thinking it was supported, but the ProductID is off by one character. This makes enough of a difference that v4l and the like don't even look at it.05:02
llxcamxllso with this vmware can i just install it then put in the photo shop cd and bob's your uncle??05:02
Tm_Tllxcamxll: no, you need OS05:02
llxcamxllyeah see bash that05:02
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Kr4t05llxcamxll: You'll need a working/legal copy of Windows XP / Mac OS X05:02
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llxcamxllanything slightly better than gimp05:02
Tm_Thaha05:02
Tm_TI love gimp and inkscape05:02
llxcamxllthats all i need05:03
Kr4t05llxcamxll: If not... than I suggest www.gimp.com/tutorials05:03
intelikeypurchase open source supported/compatable hardware ?      but linux supports more hardware than any other os in existance.05:03
warpzoneI like gimp, its just not for professional jobs yet05:03
Tm_Tintelikey: well, but not many hw manufacturer support linux ;)05:03
llxcamxlltmt what sorta limitations do you find in gimp05:03
Tm_Tllxcamxll: many, but I work around05:03
Tm_TI never used photoshop, never had money nor need to buy it05:04
llxcamxllah ok05:04
intelikeyTm_T only because there is no kick back from linux05:04
Kr4t05intelikey: It's not easy when you know that if you ask the folks at your local Wal*mart they will stare blankly and tell you that you're on your own.05:04
warpzoneKr4t05: does the VMware + cam combo bring your system to a halt? Sounds like a RAM eater05:04
Kr4t05warpzone: Not at all.05:04
intelikeyKr4t05 do your home work before you go to the store05:04
LeeJunFanKr4t05: you could get that same look from a wal-mart associate if you asked them to find their own rear end.05:04
warpzonehahaha05:05
Kr4t05inteli05:05
Kr4t05intelikey: I DID05:05
scastcan you run OS X from VMWare?05:05
Kr4t05intelikey: I'm not a two-year old.05:05
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hsysXD05:05
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intelikeyKr4t05 then why are you asking a shelf stocker about high tech info ?05:06
Kr4t05intelikey: I didn't.05:06
epkrita is getting better05:06
Kr4t05I was saying that I knew better than to.05:06
Kr4t05intelikey: keep up with the conversation, or stay out.05:06
Kr4t05Thanks.05:06
Kr4t05Ok...05:08
intelikey"<Kr4t05> intelikey: It's not easy when you know that if you ask the folks at your local Wal*mart they will stare blankly and tell you that you're on your own."    that seemed to be in answer to "<intelikey> purchase open source supported/compatable hardware ?      but linux supports more hardware than any other os in existance."    i'm not sure who's behind...05:08
Tm_Tep: yes, I test it often05:08
Tm_Tep: still don't end up to my workhorse though05:08
intelikeydoesn't matter though05:09
Kr4t05intelikey: I purchased the hardware with the idea that it would be supported. However, the 'wonderful' and 'dedicated' ubuntu community hasn't updated the wiki pages in 2 years.05:09
Tm_TKr4t05: ok, did you update it?05:10
Kr4t05Tm_T: Why should I? I'm just a noob.05:10
Tm_Tfair enough05:10
Tm_Thttp://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current-temp.png05:10
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Tm_Tthere's some of latest wallpaper work05:11
travisYES05:11
travisthis is tbay05:11
LeeJunFanIt may suck but each OS has it's limitations, just like you wouldn't expect a honda civic to go thru 4 feet of snow, you can't expect Linux to run wal-mart software.05:11
travisi got it to work05:11
travisi am a GENIUS! lol not really, i am happy i have linux now05:11
Kr4t05L05:11
Tm_Ttravis: ok05:11
travishaha, wow, the IRC chat is much simpilar on Linux then it is on mIRC05:12
DaSkreechTm_T: Doesn't load FWIW05:12
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Look, let's stop this. The point, is, it works, in a round-about fashion.05:12
Kr4t05Back to the source of my frustration.05:12
Tm_TDaSkreech: ?05:12
travishmmm, do i need to do sudo commands to mount my fat32 partition?05:12
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: I've (hopefully) pinned the problem on one single package.05:12
DaSkreechTm_T: Didn't load Cameup as ASCII05:13
intelikeymount needs either root access or settings in fstab users,05:13
Tm_TDaSkreech: well, works here just fine, hmm05:13
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Tm_TDaSkreech: does current.png load fine?05:13
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intelikeytravis normally people setup fstab to auto mount all hhd stuff05:14
DaSkreechLEts try05:14
Tm_Tthanks05:14
travisim not to sure how to set it up to make it automount05:14
Tm_T!mount05:14
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks05:14
DaSkreechYup05:15
travisi am an idiot when it comes to figuring out linux, well a newbie05:15
Tm_TDaSkreech: it works?05:15
DaSkreechLet's try -temp again05:15
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Tm_Ttravis: have you searched from help.ubuntu.com?05:15
DaSkreechAhhh Moodbar :)05:15
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travisyeah i guess i will do that, i am running kubuntu though05:16
Kr4t05http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23707 <- I think I might be getting closer. ><05:16
intelikeytravis if you want to pastebin the output of  `ls /media  &&  sudo fdisk -l  &&  mount `     i'll see what i can do for you.05:16
intelikey!paste05:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:16
DaSkreechTm_T: What's the thingy at the right ?05:16
Tm_TDaSkreech: upper right? conky and kicker05:17
travisnah, i will read up on how to mount drives, easier if i learn the hard way :-)05:17
intelikeysuit your self.05:17
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Kr4t05LeeJunFan: did you get my pastebin?05:18
DaSkreechTm_T: Which one are we talking about? :)05:18
Tm_TDaSkreech: I don't know, should be same in both05:18
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intelikeyif you are going to learn how.   i sujest you do  ` man mount ;man fstab `05:18
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travisalright05:19
DaSkreechuptime etc are Konqueror?05:19
Kr4t05This makes me feel ignorant.05:19
travisi just have one quick question, Fat13 is compatible with windows xp, i thought i read somewhere its compatible with linux also05:19
LeeJunFanKr4t05: one of those non standard repos must have libgtk2.0-dev in it. try apt-cache showpkg libgtk2.0-dev and see where it says it's getting that package.05:19
Tm_TDaSkreech: conky05:19
intelikeytravis fat13 ?05:19
traviserrr fat 3205:20
travissorry05:20
intelikeytravis fat32 is linux supported05:20
DaSkreechTm_T: Haha I always thought that conky was a bastard spelling of Konqui05:20
travisok just making sure05:20
Tm_TDaSkreech: =)05:20
DaSkreechI've been missing out05:20
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Should I pastebin the output?05:20
DaSkreechTm_T: Alright what about the kopete signals in the lower right?05:20
travisthanks intelikey :-)05:20
LeeJunFanKr4t05: probably only need the top 10 or so lines. under Versions:05:21
intelikeytravis np.05:21
LeeJunFanKr4t05: don't need the reverse depends.05:21
Tm_TDaSkreech: kopete desklist plugin05:21
Kr4t05LeOh.. Too late.05:21
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Oh.. Too late.05:21
intelikeytravis you can ask if you need help later on.05:21
DaSkreechTm_T: Where from?05:22
travisi will, i just got kubuntu installed, so i just wanna mess around for awhile05:22
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2370805:22
Tm_TDaSkreech: http://kopete.kde.org/ <- left, "plugins (unofficial)05:22
LeeJunFanKr4t05: okay, so that package is fine now. It's the 2 other ones we need to tackle.05:23
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DaSkreechArgh I need to do work. See this is why I don't run e05:23
Tm_T=)05:24
DaSkreechNo Debs eh?05:24
LeeJunFanKr4t05: try apt-get install libxcursor-dev libxfixes-dev05:24
LeeJunFanKr4t05: I don't know why it's not installing those.05:25
Kr4t05The following packages have unmet dependencies:05:25
Kr4t05  libxfixes-dev: Depends: libxfixes3 (= 1:3.0.1.2-0ubuntu3) but 1:4.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed05:25
Kr4t05Bingo05:25
Kr4t05Anyway I could downgrade libxfixes3 to the needed version?05:26
Tm_TDaSkreech: no debs05:26
Tm_TI could do, but I don't05:26
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: See above.05:27
intelikeybrb05:27
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LeeJunFanKr4t05: apt-get install libxfixes3=1:3.0.1.2-0ubuntu05:29
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: E: Version '1:3.0.1.2-0ubuntu' for 'libxfixes3' was not found05:31
Kr4t05:<05:31
DaSkreechTm_T: Where do Plugins go?05:32
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Tm_TDaSkreech: what you mean05:32
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23710 <- here's the showpkg for libxfixes305:33
Tm_TKr4t05: I presume you remembered to do "apt-get update" after every sources.list change05:33
DaSkreechWell I'm guessing they have to go somewhere for kopete to pick up on it? So I can enable it?05:33
LeeJunFanKr4t05: there's something more to it - I've got V 4.0-0 on mine, and I have libgtk2.0-dev w/o any problems.05:33
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Tm_TDaSkreech: aye, in contact list window, settings -> configure plugins05:34
DaSkreechTm_T: So once I compile it just turns up there?05:34
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: I notice some 404 errors when doing apt-get update05:35
Tm_Tyes, after restart of kopete I think05:35
Tm_Tand?05:35
LeeJunFanKr4t05: I can tell you it's the X update crap from the compiz that's screwing it up.05:35
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Tm_T=)05:36
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: I'll put the compiz repos in and see if that helps05:36
xithilinxDoes anyone know what's wrong with my kubuntu I've installed it via alternative install because it's the only one that works, and when It boots up kubuntu it says all of the information on the bottem saying ok, than goes to the next screen with the kubuntu logo bar and just hangs there doing nothing05:36
xithilinxanyone got any idea?05:36
xithilinxbecause it's been giving me hell all day05:37
LeeJunFanKr4t05: I'm saying that it was putting the compiz version of X on your machine that screwed it up, the ubuntu libs for some X dev stuff aren't compatible. I had problems getting libgtk-dev on mine too until I reverted to standard X from ubuntu.05:37
LeeJunFanI just now remembered it was the exact package I had problems with :p05:37
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: And I do this how?05:37
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xithilinxno one?05:38
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Which one?05:38
Flarphi.  i am looking for a web site ripper similar to httrack05:38
LeeJunFanKr4t05: libgtk2.0-dev05:38
Flarpfor kde05:38
Kr4t05Flarp: man wget05:38
Flarp!siterip05:38
xithilinxgreat05:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about siterip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:38
xithilinxsupport irc and forum gives me no response05:38
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: -.-05:38
xithilinxfantastic05:38
travisw00t!  I mounted my fat32 partition and the file opens up in kubuntu, ok now i am set :-) sooo happy05:38
travisthank you ubuntu team for making such a great OS05:38
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: So, how do I revert to stardard X?05:38
USlvlCagreed great os05:39
LeeJunFanKr4t05: firstly remove the compiz source, then apt-get install xserver-xorg=7.0.0-0ubuntu4505:39
xithilinxnot when you can't even fucking get it working05:39
Kr4t05travis: wait 5 weeks, and you won't be singing such praises.05:39
LeeJunFanoh, and do apt-get update after removing compiz sources.05:39
travisheh why?05:39
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: I hope this works.05:39
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travisdon't tell me they have a new version coming out or something?05:39
LeeJunFanKr4t05: me too. I know I got a bit frustrated tracking down why when I had the problem too.05:40
travisthat i will need to reinstall05:40
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Kr4t05travis: No.05:40
DaSkreechTm_T: Where is the path to KDE?05:40
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Kr4t05travis: It's just that it can be easy to screw things up if you don't pay attention to what you're doing.05:40
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Kr4t05travis: Yes, there is a new version coming out, but you can install the new version over top of the old one easily. :)05:41
travisyeah, i know, i had regular Ubuntu system up and some things were getting screwed05:41
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Kr4t05LeeJunFan: xserver-xorg is already the newest version.05:42
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Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Ping05:43
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Kr4t05Ugh, regardless of whether or not this is finished, I'm going to bed at 12. -.-05:45
Kr4t05I may just go back to Windows in the morning. This experience has taught me that I'm too dull for a real OS.05:46
Tm_TDaSkreech: /usr, use --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`05:46
Kr4t05I've broken Fedora, Debian, and FreeBSD within two weeks. Now, I can add Kubuntu to my list of distros I suck at.05:46
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Tm_TKr4t05: =)05:47
pierrethabattoir: ?05:47
Kr4t05Tm_T: You're rather skilled at words.05:47
Tm_TI think abattoir is sleeping05:47
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pierrethTm_T: be may, he is in France I think05:48
USlvlCill say thin i am a noob trying to make the move from M$ to linux permanently...05:48
USlvlC..kubuntu succeeded wher debian failed05:48
Tm_T:)05:48
Tm_TI love Kubuntu05:48
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pierrethTm_T: i am moving from the mac05:49
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Kr4t05USlvlC: You would be a great addition if you took a look at Aspell.05:49
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Tm_TUSlvlC: I thank for all of us05:49
pierrethTm_T: but i am missing something like Visio with Linux05:49
USlvlCheheh05:49
Tm_Tpierreth: what is visio?05:49
pierrethTm_T: a drawing program to make diagram05:50
LeeJunFanKr4t05: sry, had a small emergency here.05:50
Jucatowah05:50
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Eek.05:50
DaSkreechTm_T: use $(kde-config --prefix) :)05:50
Tm_Tpierreth: aah, you mean like kplot?05:50
pierrethTm_T: I'll have to buy Windows05:50
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JucatoTm_T: like Kivio05:50
Tm_TDaSkreech: naah05:50
Tm_TJucato: yes :)05:50
DaSkreechah ha WHats the QT headers called?05:50
pierrethTm_T: like Kivio05:50
DaSkreechJucato: YOu have bot powas!05:50
JucatoI do?05:51
pierrethTm_T: Linux fails to replace my Mac05:51
DaSkreechJucato: So I'm told05:51
Tm_Tpierreth: in what05:51
Jucatolol :)05:51
Tm_TDaSkreech: misleaded poor fellow you are05:51
pierrethTm_T: I don't have a program like visio on Linux05:51
JucatoTm_T: actually he's correct (about the bot powers thingy)05:52
Tm_Tpierreth: like Kivio? so what's wrong in Kivio05:52
pierrethTm_T: The missing link05:52
Tm_TJucato: ;)05:52
DaSkreechJucato: Have you tried to change a Bot response?05:52
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Everything okay?05:52
Tm_Tpierreth: link?05:52
LeeJunFanKr4t05: yeah.05:52
Jucatohm... one. for the Automatix response (added link to their homepage05:52
Jucato)05:52
LeeJunFanKr4t05: trying to get back on track :)05:52
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pierrethTm_T: The missing peace if you prefer05:52
Tm_Tstill don't get it, sorry05:53
Tm_Tbut I haven't slept so... :)05:53
pierrethTm_T: Linux is still poor by comparaison to Mac or Windows05:53
pierrethTm_T: There is not enough software available05:53
Jucatojust because Visio doesn't run on Linux...05:53
pierrethJucato: Visio or something to replace it05:54
USlvlCwow05:54
Tm_Tpierreth: hmm, that's hard words, might be true with you, but to me it's only usable choice05:54
Jucatopierreth: isn't Kivio "something" to replace it?05:54
pierrethTm_T: i depends what you do05:54
pierrethJucato: Kivio is a very very poor replacement05:54
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: xserver-xorg is already the newest version.05:54
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Kr4t05That's all that's happened since you left.05:54
Tm_Tpierreth: yup05:55
josh_emergency help05:55
Tm_TKr4t05: so what were those errors with apt-get update?05:55
JucatoI guess if you compare it to Visio. it's not suposed to be a clone05:55
Kr4t05Tm_T: It couldn't touch the PLF server, for some reason.05:55
pierrethi don't care about visio, i just want something to do the job05:55
Tm_TKr4t05: I see05:56
josh_in order to type i have to hold each key for a second05:56
Tm_Tjosh_: wireless keyb?05:56
josh_help me fix this05:56
josh_no05:56
Tm_TI see05:56
LeeJunFanKr4t05: what about apt-get install libxfixes-dev ? I don't think we tried that AFTER updating your sources.05:56
pierrethmay be i just continue the work on Kivio to have a tool i can really use05:57
josh_randomly happened05:57
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: still the same errors.05:57
josh_any way to reset keyboard/05:58
pierrethWhat's bad about Linux is the fact that PC shops are selling Windows machines05:58
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josh_YAY!!!05:58
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josh_i fixed it05:58
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: SUCCESS!!05:58
josh_its cuz i held down shift too long one time05:58
pierrethWhat asking for a Linux machine, they don't know about it05:59
LeeJunFanKr4t05: you install libxfixes3?05:59
Tm_Tpierreth: amen :(05:59
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Yeah, I managed to downgrade after an update.05:59
Tm_Tpierreth: actually I'm intended to go harrass some salesmen next week ;--P05:59
Tm_Tjust to see how little they know about what they're selling06:00
pierrethTm_T: I should start a Linux/BSD computer store06:00
pierrethTm_T: Welcome to Liberty computer store!06:00
rcmnpierreth:yes u should06:00
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: YES! Thanks for sticking with me! I got it all fixed!06:00
LeeJunFanKr4t05: cool - you got libgtk2.0-dev installed then?06:01
Kr4t05pierreth: You stole my idea! COPYRIGHT VIOLATION!06:01
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Installing now. :)06:01
Jucatoer... actually it's more of an IP violation :P06:01
pierrethHelping you getting away of Windows with free softwaire06:01
Kr4t05Thank God, it all works again.06:02
LeeJunFanCuring your diseased computer.06:02
pierrethKr4t05: Just join me06:02
Tm_Tpierreth: :)06:02
DaSkreechJucato: So no bot powas for you?06:02
Kr4t05pierreth: I'll start an East US branch, and you can start one where ever you live.06:02
JucatoDaSkreech: I do. I just don't use it a lot06:02
Kr4t05I may start mine in downtown Pitt.06:02
Tm_TDaSkreech: I can set on some bot powers if you need to have06:02
DaSkreechAh so why don't you clean up !ph ?06:02
pierrethKr4t05: I am in Canada06:03
LeeJunFanKr4t05: and what's cooler is what you learned today by not just re-installing. Now you know how to track deps problems :)06:03
JucatoDaSkreech: because our LoCo team leader doesn't want me to06:03
pierrethKr4t05: Just in front of the AppleStore06:03
DaSkreechJucato: Seriously?06:03
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Stop being a muppet.06:03
Jucatodead serious06:03
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Kr4t05LeeJunFan: This isn't Sesame Street! There is no moral to the story!06:03
DaSkreechHave you tried taking away the mushrooms?06:03
Jucatomushrooms?06:04
Kr4t05There.06:04
Kr4t05A compile job that was supposed to take 20 minutes took 3 hours.06:04
Tm_TKr4t05: I will compile all this day06:04
Tm_Tand still have a great chance to not sucseed06:05
Tm_Tif that makes you feel any better ;)06:05
Tm_Toh I love colours of cmake06:06
DaSkreechJucato: What ever drugs he may be taking06:06
Jucatolol06:06
Kr4t05What makes it even more rewarding is that the code doesn't even compile. ><06:07
Kr4t05Oh well...06:07
Kr4t05Atleast I can go to bed.06:07
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Tm_T=)06:08
DaSkreechIs there a libqt3-mt-headers?06:08
Jucatoyes06:09
Jucatoer now06:09
JucatoI meant, no06:09
DaSkreechArgh06:09
DaSkreechlibqt3-mt-dev breaks06:09
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Tm_T=)06:11
Tm_TDaSkreech: what's the problem06:11
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DaSkreechIt's looking for qt-mt libs06:13
Tm_Tand?06:13
DaSkreechWell I tried to install libqt3-mt-dev and it broke06:13
DaSkreechNot sure why06:13
Tm_Thow06:13
DaSkreechIt says BREAK in big red letters :)06:13
Tm_Terr06:14
Tm_Tdo "apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev"06:14
Tm_Tsounds like you use adept or some other gui app06:15
Tm_Ts/you use/you're using/06:15
DaSkreechYeah but it normally says that for some reason I find out about later after I install it :(06:15
JucatoDaSkreech: what error messages do you get if you try installing it using apt-get?06:15
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Jucato(apt-get is more talkative in that sense :P)06:15
Tm_TJucato: see what I asked before06:16
Jucatolol06:16
DaSkreechxlibmesa-gl-dev but it is not installable06:16
Tm_Tdamn, you're lika abattoir, repeating me like some parrot06:16
Tm_TDaSkreech: let me see06:16
Jucatoswitching between rooms every 5 seconds blurs my vision :P06:16
Tm_TJucato: move faster then06:17
Jucatomy hands move faster, my eyes don't follo06:17
Jucatos/follo/follow06:17
Jucatohaving only slept for about 3.5 hours doesn't help either :P06:17
Tm_TJucato: no sleep here06:17
Jucatook, I'll stop complaining then :P06:18
Tm_TDaSkreech: that's weird, ok, forget those packages, do "apt-get build-dep kopete"06:18
Tm_TI'm interested to see if it can be replaced by other package06:18
Tm_Tbroken dependency doesn't make much sense to me06:19
DaSkreechBuild-dependencies for kopete could not be satisfied06:19
Laser123454321does apt-get install build-essential06:19
Laser123454321not work06:19
DaSkreech!b-e06:19
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:19
Tm_TDaSkreech: aah, libgl-dev06:20
DaSkreechThat satisfies the x-gl-dev?06:20
Tm_Tshould06:20
Tm_Tstupid packages06:20
Laser123454321yeah read it06:21
echo1How does one add links in the "Menu of Important System Places?"  I can't find the config file or anything for it...06:21
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Laser123454321Im trying to install VMware-tools and im at the ./VMware-config-tools.pl stage and its asking where make is06:22
abattoirTm_T: we're so impressed by your words of wisdom that we cant help but keep on repeating what you say :)06:22
abattoirTm_T: and no... that doesnt mean you have attained 'Idol status' yet...06:22
abattoir:P06:22
LeeJunFanLaser123454321: then build-essential isn't installed, and yes it's available. might need to update your /etc/apt/sources.list to include universe.06:22
LeeJunFan!repos06:22
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:23
Tm_Tabattoir: bah06:23
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Tm_Tabattoir: and moin moin :)06:23
abattoirTm_T: 'morning :)06:23
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Jucatohi abattoir :)06:23
Tm_Tcompiling KDE is fun06:23
DaSkreechlibgl1-mesa-dev: Depends: mesa-common-dev (= 6.4.1-0ubuntu8) but 6.5.1+cvs20060815 is to be installed06:23
lars30anyone had any trouble with GDM after installing NVidia Drivers?06:23
DaSkreechLaser123454321: apt-get install build-essentials ?06:24
lars30I can run X off the new vid card just fine...06:24
lars30but I can't get GDM to run.06:24
Tm_TDaSkreech: mesa? err06:24
lars30API mismatch error.. on nvidia driver versions?06:24
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: no s on essential[s] 06:24
DaSkreechTm_T: Don't ask it kept asking to be more specific until it broke again06:24
lars30dunno why it works with startx though06:24
Tm_TDaSkreech: that's interesting06:25
DaSkreechTm_T: How did you get this thing installed?06:25
DaSkreechA while back I'm guessing?06:26
Laser123454321wow not even my restricted repository was enabled06:26
Tm_TDaSkreech: well, I untarred, configured, compiled, installed, used06:26
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Tm_Tno dependency problems at all06:26
DaSkreechDamn you Tm_T That's all I have to say06:27
Laser123454321you know theres a problem when main restricted is disabled06:27
Tm_TDaSkreech: there's something funny going on there06:27
DaSkreechYeah. I know shame I wrote the punch line06:27
Tm_Twhat punch? ;)06:28
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Tm_TDaSkreech: busy?06:28
DaSkreechTm_T: trying to be I can Alt+Tab though06:28
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Tm_TI mean, if you have time, I could try to track those issues with you06:29
DaSkreechI know that's what I mean as well06:29
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Tm_T:)06:29
DaSkreechCurrently it's telling me that the version to be installed it too high I think06:29
DaSkreechShould I just pastebin my sources now since I know that will eventually be what we are going to do?06:30
Tm_TDaSkreech: let's roll back to root of this problem, what exactly is missing from configure now?06:30
Tm_Tman, compilind KDE4 base takes some time =)06:31
Tm_TI really need faster processor06:31
Jucatowhoa.... KDE4 :P06:31
DaSkreech266 Mhz?06:31
Tm_T2100 MHz AMD, but still06:32
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Tm_TJucato: yes ;)06:33
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LeeJunFanTm_T: I could rent you some CPU time on a server with dual AMD Opteron's :p06:33
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fatejudgerwhich VMWare program do I need if I wish to emulate Windows inside of Linux06:33
DaSkreechQt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found.06:33
fatejudgerit's damn near impossible to download legal music in Linux06:33
Laser123454321whats the kernal headers package called?06:33
LeeJunFanfatejudger: just vmware server for linux.06:33
DaSkreechfatejudger: e-music :)06:34
Tm_TLeeJunFan: I thought to do same with this shell/web server ] ;=06:34
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: I didn't see a package for that in the repos06:34
LeeJunFanfatejudger: it's not - you have to go to vmware.com and get it.06:34
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DaSkreechTm_T: want the error from config.log?06:34
Tm_TDaSkreech: yes please06:34
fatejudgerDaSkreech: I want unlimited downloads06:34
fatejudgerDaSkreech: and good quality music, as in 192 kbps or higher mp3s06:35
hastesaverDoes anyone know the reason for "qstring_to_xtp result code -2" errors/warnings?06:35
phreqI having a problem, I can copy and paste accented characters into KDE programs fine, but I can use any keyboard layout that would allow me to input accented characters directly--has anyone else had this problem?06:35
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: you haven't heard of any third party repos that have it?06:35
phreqbut I can't, rather.06:35
Tm_TDaSkreech: actually, to have clear chat, should we go private?06:35
LeeJunFanfatejudger: no, but it's pretty simple to install.06:36
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LeeJunFanfatejudger: just get the tarball, tar xfvz [filename] , cd vmware-distrib and run the install script in there.06:36
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2371206:36
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: I'm sure it's easy, I just like having everything packaged neatly by apt06:36
DaSkreechNaw here is fine06:36
Tm_Tok06:36
DaSkreechTm_T: I'l just remember nick completion06:36
Tm_TDaSkreech: well, still lot of noise ;)06:37
DaSkreechIf you prefer that's ok as well :)06:37
Tm_Tok, to me it's clearer06:38
LeeJunFanfatejudger: I am surprized they don't have it in a deb considering the popularity of both ubuntu and debian. They have rpm's for the whole 200 people who use an rpm based system. hehe06:38
davebgimpAnyone know what I have to type on a command terminal to find out what version of kernel I'm currently using?06:38
LeeJunFandavebgimp: uname -r06:38
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: yeah, Ubuntu is definitely the distro of choice right now06:39
davebgimpLeeJunFan: Perfect, thank you06:39
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Laser123454321hey my current kernel is 2.6.15-26-386, where can i find headers for that06:42
Laser123454321wow nobody?06:43
hastesaverLaser123454321, install the package linux-headers-2.6.15-26-38606:43
LeeJunFan!headers06:43
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages06:43
Laser123454321couldnt find linux-headers-2.6.15-26-38606:43
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LeeJunFanLaser123454321: it should - they are in main.06:44
Laser123454321main restricted?06:44
LeeJunFanmain06:44
Jucatoin dapper-security main06:44
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LeeJunFanthe space separates different pools06:45
Laser123454321AH HA06:45
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logan1hmm piza06:47
Laser123454321yeah those towers can be quite delicious06:47
logan1nice ubuntu wallpaper -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4576406:47
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logan1 bit weird too06:48
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Linux_Galore /msg NickServ IDENTIFY chatmad06:51
Linux_Galorehmm06:51
abattoirLinux_Galore: might have left a space before /msg06:51
fignewhate when that happens :(06:52
LeeJunFanor 2 /'s06:52
abattoirLinux_Galore: better change your p/d soon :P06:52
Jucatoheh06:52
fignewsoon meaning right now, right ;)06:53
LeeJunFanI did that with my user sysem password once into IRC. Thought the ssh session had focus... hehe06:53
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Linux_Galorepfft06:53
Linux_Galorestupid server06:53
flaccid!openvpn06:54
ubotuopenvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-1 (dapper), package size 310 kB, installed size 940 kB06:54
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flaccid!vpn06:54
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD06:54
flaccidhow do i get the openvpn wiki page ?06:54
LeeJunFanbetter than typing ifdown eth0 in a shell thinking it's your local machine only to realize it WAS an ssh session to a server 70 miles away. :(06:54
fignewdoh!06:56
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obf213i have a shell script that was messing up my shutdown. K10Halt, so i opened up konqueror and dleted it.07:01
obf213but somehow it came back again07:02
obf213how do i get rid of it for good07:02
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adamant1988hello all07:02
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adamant1988I ran "sudo aptitude -f install kubuntu-desktop"  BUT I was given this error. The following packages have unmet dependencies: language-selector-qt: Depends: language-selector-common (= 0.1.20) but 0.1.20.1 is installed.07:03
adamant1988and therefor it downloaded a lot of files and then didn't install them.07:03
adamant1988can someone help me figure this out?07:03
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flaccidadamant1988: did you update packages first?07:04
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flaccidperhaps try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:04
adamant1988flaccid: I want to use aptitude so I can remove it if the files screw up something on my computer07:05
obf213adamant1988: you will still be able to remove them through adept07:05
adamant1988does adept remember what was downloaded with specific packages?07:06
obf213i dont know if aptititude=adept, but if it does you can still remove them07:06
adamant1988also, I found that downgrading the file worked well enough07:06
adamant1988I have no clue how I managed to get a more up to date version than what the dependencies wanted...07:07
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flacciderr you could use adept, apt-get or aptitude...07:07
adamant1988apt-get will remove all of the files dependencies though.07:07
adamant1988aptitude will only remove the ones I downloaded with the package.07:07
flacciddepends what switches you use07:08
adamant1988flaccid: explain... is there a switch which allows apt-get to do the same thing?07:08
flacciduse dpkg to remove it and install the correct version if 1 of the package managers cannot work around it07:08
adamant1988it's working around it right now07:08
flaccidthere is but i can't remember it07:08
flaccidsomeone might remember or man apt-get07:09
adamant1988I just had to downgrade the file to the correct version07:09
adamant1988kubuntu-desktop is installing as I hoped now.07:09
adamant1988well, downloading.07:09
Linux_Galoreisn that great theres is nothing in the freenode irc manual on changing your password07:09
adamant1988it'll finish installing after it downloads.07:09
flaccidcool07:09
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adamant1988I also want to say that I really, seriously love irssi07:10
adamant1988it's blazing fast.07:10
flaccidwhat is irssi?07:10
flaccid!irssi07:10
ubotuIRSSI is a command line interface IRC application ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )07:10
LeeJunFanLinux_Galore: /msg nickserv help set07:10
flaccidirc application?07:10
adamant1988yep07:11
Jucatoflaccid: yes07:11
adamant1988it runs IRC from the command line07:11
flacciddon't they mean client?07:11
Jucatocommand line chat client07:11
adamant1988it's awesome for when you do things like... bork X07:11
Jucatoa client is an app :P07:11
flaccidso is a server...07:11
adamant1988or when you just want to get some help quickly and don't want to wait to load up xchat07:11
adamant1988just open a cli and start irssi07:11
JucatoI guess it depends on what how you use the word "client" and "server"07:12
flaccidthe bot entry doesn't confirm which one it is07:12
flaccidthats all07:12
flaccidfor me starting up konversation with auto connect to servers would be faster07:12
adamant1988I hope that konversation is better than kopete is with IRC.07:14
flaccidi think it is07:14
Jucatoadamant1988: definitely better07:14
JucatoKopete's IRC feature is more of an add-on than a core feature. it doesn't even treat channels as channels, but as contacts07:14
Linux_Galoreooh goody, now it says I cant set my password unless Im a server admin07:15
adamant1988Jucato: it's just very poor at handling IRC.07:15
adamant1988I *normally* like KDE apps more than most gnome apps... but that's where I make an exception07:15
JucatoI think it's logical, since Kopete is a dedicated IM client rather than an IRC one07:16
adamant1988well, I'll give konversation it's fair run.07:16
Jucatoheh, but even GAIM's IRC pales in comparison to XChat's07:16
Linux_Galorealso the irc help is cryptic07:16
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Dr_Willisxchat 2.4 was the best. :P07:16
Jucatoadamant1988: Konversation 1.0 is even better. tree-view side "tabs" (like Xchat's)07:16
flaccidkonversation just needs scripting and i'd be satisfied07:16
Jucatoit does have scripting, just not sure what language is used07:17
adamant1988I'm a big fan of clean and fast...  I usually don't run GUI apps for things when I don't have to.07:17
Linux_Galoreso to set my password I just type /SET PASSWORD newpass ??07:17
adamant1988that's why I use aptitude over synaptic, etc.07:17
adamant1988irssi instead of xchat.07:17
flacciddesktop = convenience07:17
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Dr_Willisuse the 'Twin' text based window manager. :P07:18
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Jucatodesktop = clicking fun/fore-finger exercise :P07:18
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Jucato!irssi07:18
ubotuirssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )07:18
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Jucatoflaccid: for you ^^^07:18
flaccidthanks br0ther07:18
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flaccid!vpnserver07:18
adamant1988Jucato: I'm convinced that computers could run strictly from the steam powered pressing motion of all the mouse clicks we make :)07:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vpnserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:18
flaccidJucato: is this in the bot? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer07:19
flaccidnot all GUI users are mouse driven :)07:19
Jucatoadamant1988: but even more power is generated by typing than by clicking :P07:19
adamant1988oh I use a gui... I just don't when I don't have to lol.07:19
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Jucatoflaccid: yes, that's why we have keyboard shortcuts :)07:20
adamant1988Jucato: it ruins my smartalic statements when you taint them realism07:20
Jucatothank god I don't have to go to gconf-editor to setup some of them :)07:20
adamant1988I feel like browsing qdb.us..07:20
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Jucatoadamant1988: I was actually trying to be smartalic-like too :)07:20
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flaccidJucato: when you do VPN can you make the ^^ link come up too, not just the gaming vpn?07:21
Jucato!vpn07:21
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD07:21
Jucatohm... I'll see07:21
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flaccidwell they are both help.ubuntu pages :)07:22
flaccidi would of thought openvpn would take precedence anyway07:22
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Jucato!openvpn07:23
ubotuopenvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-1 (dapper), package size 310 kB, installed size 940 kB07:23
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adamant1988ok guys07:24
adamant1988the package is installing07:24
adamant1988should I change to kdm by default or stick with gdm?07:24
Jucatoyour choice :)07:25
adamant1988does it really matter?07:25
flaccidkdm is better07:25
flaccidimo07:25
adamant1988flaccid: what's the difference?07:25
Jucatoadamant1988: only if you like themes :)07:25
JucatoI mean, it matters if you like themes07:25
flaccidlol i cant even remember07:25
adamant1988so the only thing that really changes is the theme?07:25
Jucatobecause gdm themes don't work on kdm, and vice versa07:25
adamant1988oh I see07:26
flaccidand you need to install a theme manager package for kde, but thas cooll.07:26
JucatoI don't know of other differences, but that's the most obvious one for me07:26
adamant1988well I haven't altered the themes.. don't plan on it07:26
adamant1988so there isn't any real benefit to switching to kdm?07:26
Jucatoactually, the KDM theme manager is an optional GUI front end for manually editing files07:26
flaccidnot really07:26
Jucatoit starts with a K?07:26
adamant1988i just stuck with gdm07:26
Dr_Willisif you use kde more then gnome.. you may benifit from using kdm07:26
Dr_Willissame with gnome and gdm.07:26
adamant1988I like the orange colors more.07:26
adamant1988Dr_Willis: how would I benefit?07:27
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flaccidkdm gives benefit of ability to configure in kcontrol etc.07:27
Dr_WillisI recall a 'few' little fetatures that worked best when using gdm with gnome.  - like the 'login in new desktop'     and a few other features07:27
flaccidinstead of using a gtk app to manage gdm by gui07:27
Jucatoah yes.. that's another "obvious" thing that escaped me..07:27
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Dr_Willisbut I use 'startx' :P shows what i know. heh heh07:27
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unix_infidelDr_Willis: apparantly you just like to start x07:29
Dr_Willis:)07:30
unix_infidelbut then again, what do i know, i'm running studio 8, gaim, 5 firefox windows, winamp, cygwin, X11, gkrellm, objectdock, Photoshop all with 512MB physical RAM07:30
unix_infideloh and vlc and aptana and about 5 vim windows :)07:31
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adamant1988oh.. well I'll have to play around in KDE to see if I like it enough to bother switching my destkop manager to kdm.07:31
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adamant1988hey.. does anyone here know what key is "^N" or "^P"?07:35
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unix_infideladamant1988: try xev in Konsole07:38
DaSkreechWhats the difference between a builtin and a keyword in a shell?07:40
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Linux_GaloreDaSkreech: a builtin is as the word states  a command that is "built into" bash versus a command that is a seperate binary07:55
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Healot!amarol07:56
Healot!amarok07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amarol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org07:56
DaSkreechLinux_Galore: Understood whats a keyword?07:56
DaSkreechIt's ... nota command?07:57
Linux_Galoreno a builtin is something that usually is used to better define how bash operates ie alias v ls were ls is a seperate program and alias defines a feature07:58
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josh_i'm trying to install americas army08:00
josh_there are no instructions08:00
josh_its a .run rile08:00
josh_file*08:00
josh_how do i execute it?08:00
Linux_Galore./filename08:00
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josh_permission denied08:01
josh_and i tried it in root08:01
josh_same thing08:02
josh_i cd'd into the directory08:02
MistaEDjosh_: chmod +x file.run08:02
josh_aaah08:02
MistaEDor right-click it and go into properties under konqueror and set it to execute08:02
josh_its going i think08:03
josh_YES!!!08:03
Linux_GaloreDaSkreech: keyword  is a reserved word, token or operator. Keywords have a special meaning to the shell, and indeed are the building blocks of the shell's syntax. As examples, "for", "while", "do", and "!" are keywords. Similar to a builtin, a keyword is hard-coded into Bash, but unlike a builtin, a keyword is not in itself a command, but part of a larger command structure.08:03
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Linux_Galorewould have though AA would be in a repo08:05
josh_is it common for a video card to have less performance in linux08:05
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Linux_Galorethought*08:05
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josh_in google earth i lag when i zoom out and move the earth around08:05
josh_in windows this doesn't happen08:05
Linux_Galorejosh_: depends on the card and the driver08:05
Linux_Galorejosh_: with nvidia i find there is no difference because the windows and linux drivers are basically compiled fomr the same code08:06
DaSkreechLinux_Galore: Ok think I got it08:06
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JFreakCapohi everybody08:07
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Linux_Galorejosh_: also installing the latest binary driver for your card isnt always a good idea, good example is if you install a brand new 8*** series driver with a 5200 card it runs slower than with a 76** driver because you have shading active08:08
JFreakCapoexist some tool gui and open source to connect to ms sql server ?08:09
JFreakCapocan sugest to me one please ?08:09
Linux_GaloreJFreakCapo: hmm a browser08:09
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chrisoverlywhat program do you use for mp3's08:10
JFreakCapoa dba tool, something like phpmyadmin for mysql for example...08:10
Linux_GaloreJFreakCapo: ksqlanalyzer08:11
Linux_Galorehttp://www.kpage.de/en/08:12
chrisoverlywhat program do you use for mp3's08:12
Linux_Galoreamarok08:12
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Linux_Galorechrisoverly: dump a mp3 file on your desk and click on it, it will then try and install the mp3 libs08:13
chrisoverlyit does not play any of my mp3's08:13
JFreakCapoLinux_Galore: thks08:13
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josh_i'm running americas army in XGL08:26
josh_why is it so slow08:26
josh_fps wise08:26
josh_i go into normal kde and its way faster08:26
josh_why is this?08:26
Linux_Galorewell xgl is beta for starters and maybe the graphics driver doesnt fully support xgl yet08:27
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josh_mhmm08:27
josh_and help me use nvclock08:27
josh_my stock clock on this is way past what the stock is supposed to be08:27
josh_so it artifacts08:27
Linux_Galorewell nvclock "may" help but it will make things break faster too08:28
josh_no08:28
josh_i clock it DOWN08:28
josh_i have it but i dont know how to use it08:28
Linux_Galorejosh_: just leave it on the default08:28
josh_no08:29
mike__linux effing sucks08:29
josh_i'm artifacting like crazy08:29
mike__i just installed it08:29
mike__and i can't get anything to work08:29
josh_stock clock on the core is supposed to be 55008:29
Linux_Galorejosh_: duh xgl is beta so isnt main stream08:29
josh_the default for some reason is 606 so i artifact like mad08:29
josh_and no this is even in windows, i think its an error in the video card's bios or soemthing08:30
josh_i just need to use nvclock to fix it08:30
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Linux_Galorejosh_: could be the card is over clocked already08:30
Linux_Galorejosh_: you can buy dodgy over clocked cards08:30
josh_no08:31
josh_i know what i'm talking about08:31
josh_i can get the card to 58008:31
josh_and its stable08:31
josh_stock is "supposed" to be 55008:31
Linux_Galorejosh_: then install nvclock there is a linux version08:31
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josh_but its at 606 so i artivact like MAD08:31
josh_like the screen was filling with colors08:31
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josh_ya i got it with adept08:33
josh_apparently there is supposed to be a graphical version08:34
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Linux_Galorejosh_: ?? thought it was graphical, well it was the last time I used it08:36
josh_hmm08:36
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Linux_Galorejosh_: aah  apt-get install  nvclock-qt08:37
Linux_Galorejosh_: that gives you the graphical front end08:37
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josh_hmm08:39
josh_no08:40
Linux_Galorejosh_: sudo apt-get install  nvclock-qt08:40
josh_ya08:40
Linux_GaloreI usually have a root terminal open so  dont use sudo08:40
josh_how do i run it08:40
josh_i did nvclock and its a console thing08:41
Linux_Galorejosh_: type nvclock_qt08:41
josh_YAY08:41
josh_thx so much08:42
Makro___________hi08:43
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romeo_hello, whay am i getting a message while trying to upgrade amarok that it will break the package?08:44
Makro___________how to access to some more tnat one word directory on a win partition from kubuntu using console? for example, when i try to use a program in "program files" with wine, it only see "program" but not "program files",08:44
Linux_Galoreromeo_: ?? dont have a clue08:45
Makro___________tnat=that08:45
Makro___________than08:45
romeo_anybody know?08:45
Tm_TMakro___________: use tabfilling08:45
Linux_Galoreromeo_: just updated to 1.4.3 and it worked fine08:46
romeo_should i uninstall the okd version?08:46
Makro___________tm_t: ok but that means that i should make changes to the names of the original directories?08:46
romeo_old+08:46
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Linux_Galoreromeo_: sounds like you have something old installed that creating a conflict with the new version of amarok08:47
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romeo_hm08:47
Linux_Galoreromeo_: click on details, it explains whats conflicting08:47
romeo_ok08:48
romeo_brb08:48
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alessandro_hallo08:50
alessandro_is there anybody?08:51
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alessandro_please08:51
alessandro_hallo08:51
tejinderafter adding kde354 in sources.list, apt-get update upgrade does'nt include kde why?08:51
alessandro_is there anybody?08:52
alessandro_I need important information08:52
alessandro_adapt manager gives to me the following notice:08:53
alessandro_You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.08:53
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alessandro_hallo08:55
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romeo_hmmm adept tells me it will break amarok if i upgrade but no details09:00
romeo_should i use konsole?09:01
tejindershould i have to do sudo apt-get install kde?09:01
Hobbseeromeo_: yeah, could be a good idea09:02
tejinderok how can i disable some daemons from boot?09:03
tejindersomeone help please09:03
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romeo_whay comand should i use?09:03
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alessandro_hey09:06
alessandro_good morning09:06
alessandro_adept manager gives to me the following message:09:07
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alessandro_You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.09:07
alessandro_What appens09:07
Tm_TMakro___________: no09:10
josh_are there packages to optimize performance?09:10
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josh_i think i saw one one day and i can't find it09:10
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alessandro_no09:11
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alessandro_I'm not able to install nothing09:11
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alessandro_I got it also on mine laptop09:12
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llxcamxllis there support for m4a format in any of the media players09:13
llxcamxll!m4a09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:13
llxcamxll!.m4a09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:13
pkarticlevlc media player might probablp play it09:13
llxcamxllnah just tried it09:13
pkarticleah09:13
llxcamxllkaffiene09:13
llxcamxllamarok09:13
llxcamxllmight see if i can find something on the reps09:14
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alessandro_If I uninstall kubuntu may I reboot win xp again which is on the first boot?09:16
Linux_Galorexmms will play m4a  just install the xmms-mp4plugin09:16
tejinderalessandro_: yes09:17
alessandro_no problem?09:17
Linux_Galorealessandro_: its called dual bootinh09:17
tejinderalessandro_: you have grub installed?09:17
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alessandro_yes09:17
tejinderalessandro_: there wont be any problem  then09:17
alessandro_thank you so much09:18
tejindernp09:18
Linux_Galorellxcamxll: install xmms and the xmms-mp4 package09:19
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HobbseeLinux_Galore: read the problem.  no he cant.09:21
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HobbseeLinux_Galore: it'll....errro 15 on you, iirc.  it'll certainly error out09:21
Linux_GaloreHobbsee: ?? cant what09:22
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arienh4i've got a problem, because everytime i start my computer, the KDE Configuration Assistant starts again...09:22
abattoirarienh4: kpersonalizer?09:22
arienh4i think so, it starts before login09:23
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abattoirarienh4: are you running dapper? and did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 ?09:23
Linux_Galorearienh4: unceck the tick box09:23
Linux_Galoreuncheck*09:23
arienh4where?09:23
Linux_Galoreright corner usuallu09:23
arienh4it should only start once, can't find a tickbox09:23
arienh4i can check if i see one09:24
HobbseeLinux_Galore: cant uninstall kubuntu, and expect grub to work to boot XP.09:24
arienh4no tickbox09:24
Linux_Galorearienh4: hmm wonder if kcontrol has it in the startup menu09:25
Hobbseearienh4: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc09:25
arienh4thats the file i needed i think09:25
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Hobbseeyep09:25
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Linux_GaloreHobbsee: funny I just did a dapper install and the desktop setup thing didnt appear09:29
HobbseeLinux_Galore: do you have kpersonalizer installed?09:29
Linux_GaloreHobbsee: yep09:30
HobbseeLinux_Galore: weird.  kde 3.5.2?  or .4?09:30
Linux_Galore.209:30
Hobbseethat's why, i think09:30
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Linux_GaloreIm thinking of poitning apt @ 3.5.409:31
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Linux_Galorewondering how much breakage I will get09:31
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Hobbseenot much.  you'll probably want to rm that file though09:32
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Linux_Galoreok updating to 3.5.409:36
Linux_Galoreone of the cool aspects of having a few computers with Linux is if one bombs your not fussed09:37
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tejinderdoes kde 3.5.4 has kopete 0.12?09:37
Linux_Galorehmm not sure I usually use konversation09:37
tejinderfir IM?09:38
Linux_Galore139 packages to update , ouch09:38
Linux_Galoreno irc I dont do im09:38
Linux_Galoregot a mobile for that09:38
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Tm_Ttejinder: 3.5.5, but Kubuntu packages of 3.5.4 has 0.1209:40
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tejinderTm_T: like if i install kde-354 i will get kopete installed or i have to do it myself?09:42
Hobbseetejinder: you'll get it installed09:42
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stisevoh man09:42
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stisevlilo passed away?09:42
stisevWTF?09:42
stisevoh man that's very very disheartening09:42
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Linux_Galoreyeah lilo did a man on bike versus large metal moving object experiment09:43
tejinderand where can i get java 1.5?09:43
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Hobbsee!java09:43
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:43
tejindersun-java5-jre has mozilla plugin?09:44
tejindersun-java5-plugin09:44
tejindergot it09:44
tejinder:P09:44
Linux_GaloreHobbsee: yeah also have to run a setup thing09:44
Linux_GaloreHobbsee: after the java packages are installed09:44
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HobbseeLinux_Galore: likely.  and it's during installation?09:45
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Linux_Galoresudo update-alternatives --config java09:47
Linux_GaloreI had to run that or it kept trying to use the gnu stuff09:47
tejinderI installed flashplugin-nonfree, but konqueror is'nt showing it?09:48
Linux_Galoretejinder: download the official plugin from macromedia and run the installer09:48
abattoirtejinder: did you 'scan' for it konqueror?09:49
tejinderyes09:49
Linux_Galoretejinder: select to but the plugin in /home/username/.mozilla/09:49
abattoirtejinder: was it found?09:49
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tejinderabattoir: no09:49
SillyZgreetings09:49
abattoirtejinder: can you run 'sudo update-flashplugin' ?09:49
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abattoirtejinder: see if you get any errors09:50
tejinderautomatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes09:50
Linux_GaloreI figured out how to get Flash 9 running in the "Linux" version of firefox and work with youtube09:50
SillyZIve noticed under the regular gnome ubuntu that my fan on the cpu does not want to come on for some reason... does kubuntu have the same problem? ( gateway solo 5300... piii-750 )09:50
Tm_Tmooh, I'm tired09:50
abattoirtejinder: i guess you have to download the file manually from Adobe, then..09:50
abattoirtejinder: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash09:51
SillyZalso, what version of kde is currently being served up by kubuntu? 3.5.?09:51
HobbseeSillyZ: try it.  3.5.409:51
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SillyZ3.5.4 ok thanks Hobbsee09:52
abattoirhi Hobbsee, btw :P09:52
Linux_Galoreone trick I found is to install flash 7 go to youtube, run a video, then kill firefox then copy the wine link for the flash plugin to ~/.mozilla/plugins09:52
SillyZIve tried acpi on, acpi off, etc, powernowd and god only knows what else to get this cpu fan to turn on ... it should be on constantly and isnt09:53
Linux_Galorebingo flash 9 on youtube works in firefox09:53
fdovingSillyZ: what model is this?09:53
SillyZgateway solo 5300... its a p3-750 Intel09:53
SillyZIve googled it to death, and then beat it with a stick to try and get some sort of result09:54
Linux_GaloreSillyZ: have you looked on freshmeat.net see if there aby utils09:54
Linux_Galoreany*09:54
tejinderis there konversation 1.0 out for kde 3.5.4?09:54
SillyZIve 'heard' Kubuntu dosent have the same problem as the gnome based Ubuntu something to do with gnome-cups-icon?09:55
SillyZLinux_Galore: no i havent but i sure will right now09:55
Linux_GaloreSillyZ: I found a set of utils for my toshiba there09:55
llxcamxlldo boueray devices play dvd's09:55
llxcamxll*blueray09:55
Linux_Galorellxcamxll: yes09:55
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SillyZLinux_Galore: heh searching for 'gateway' on freshmeat, thats gonna do me a lot of good .... rofl09:56
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Linux_Galorehave to go updating kde09:57
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llxcamxlldoes anyone know how expensive blueray discs are compared to dvd's09:58
fdovingSillyZ: i recommend taking a look at linux-on-laptops.com see if you can find it.09:58
fildoblueray ?09:58
llxcamxllblueray man, like 5 times the capacity of the dual layer dvd09:59
fdovingllxcamxll: might try #kubuntu-offtopic :)09:59
llxcamxlllol09:59
SillyZlinux-on-laptops.com10:00
SillyZok thanks fdoving10:00
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fdovingllxcamxll: here you go, i'm waay too nice. http://www.onsale.com/shop/detail~dpno~7088431.aspx10:02
slaxy+10:02
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slaxyhi guys i installed kubuntu desktop on my ubuntu .... while installing i selected my desktop manager as kdm ... can someone plz tell me how to change kdm to gdm10:03
fdovingslaxy: in a terminal, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm'10:04
fdovingthat will let you choose again.10:04
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zblachexperts, i'm having a strange problem which, when googled, yields no results. on waking from a suspended state, my sound refuses to play. any ideas?10:05
slaxythx fdoving ... should i run this while X is running or should i just do this in console mode10:05
fdovingslaxy: doesn't matter,  after you've done it, the easiest way to check that it works, is to reboot. (it's not strictly, needed, but fastest and easiest).10:06
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Fille-laptopusch10:06
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Fille-laptopnsta vecka10:07
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Fille-laptopwoops sorry the wrong channel :o10:07
fdovingzblach: you should try to re-load your sound driver module.10:07
slaxythx a lot fdoving... will give it a try...  :)10:07
Linux_Galorethat was fun10:07
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Linux_GaloreI cant see the any bigies between kde 3.5.2 and .410:07
zblachfdoving: could you elaborate somewhat?10:07
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fdovingzblach: some sound drivers needs to be unloaded before going to sleep, and then re-loaded after waking up.10:08
zblachok. how could I automate this?10:08
SillyZwell i think 90% of the problem is the arch the solo 5300 was built around was APM not ACPI10:09
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ge2xhey where can i find a creative soundblaster live 24bit driver for linux?10:09
fdovingzblach: you should go read /etc/power/README10:10
zblachthanks10:10
llxcamxllfdoving:too kind10:10
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zblachalas, no readme file10:10
Linux_Galorege2x: should be built in10:11
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zorglu_kde really need a apps to simply display the cpu/disk/network usaged10:13
zorglu_the existing one is way too hard to use10:13
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zblachzorglu_: superkaramba?10:14
zorglu_oh there are alternative10:14
|lostbyte|zorglu_, this is one.. argh. cant remmber it.10:14
zorglu_no i was talking about 'system guard"10:14
zblachoh10:14
zorglu_this one is very hard to configure and keep stopping or something10:15
zorglu_currently it stopped displaying the vumeter10:15
zorglu_i mean the box aare there but not updated10:15
zorglu_my guess is that there is an option somewhere but where ? :)10:15
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KalagarazDoes kubuntu 6.06 contain kde 3.5 with superkaramba?10:16
fdovingzblach: ah, sorry, the README is in a powerpc specific package. I don't have a i386 machine to give you the files and dirs, sorry.10:17
Ayabarais it safe to move my root partition with gparted? I run dualboot and want to install vista rc1 instead of xp, but I need to expand my ntfs partition first10:17
zblachok. thanks anyways10:18
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heinkel_111ayabara....if you have backup....10:18
heinkel_111Ayabara: ^ if not there is always a risk10:19
heinkel_111for instance if there is a power - out during the operation10:19
Ayabaraheinkel_111, so safe should be replaced by "safe"? :-)10:19
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heinkel_111yes10:19
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Ayabarahave an external I can backup to, so I will be ok. too bad if I f**k up my kubuntu install though..10:20
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zorglu_ok i think i need the sun java to run eclipse :)10:20
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heinkel_111Ayabara: apart from such worries, i have not had any problem with gparted/qtparted and whatever programs they run in the back end, ever10:20
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heinkel_111kaffeine rocks10:20
KalagarazDoes kubuntu 6.06 contain kde 3.5 with superkaramba?10:21
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Ayabaraheinkel_111, gparted has worked smoothly for me too, and I manage to do weird things with my computer10:21
Ayabara:-)10:21
heinkel_111Kalagaraz: yes10:21
heinkel_111at least after an update10:21
heinkel_111but you will need to install Superkaramba from the repositories10:22
KalagarazOK thanks10:22
zorglu_!java10:22
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Linux_Galorewell that sort of went bad10:23
Linux_Galoreupdated to 3.5.4 and now adept keeps saying there is another service running so you cant change anything10:23
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lars30is there a nice clean apt-get way to install compiz themes?10:24
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Linux_Galoreadept: ERROR: Communication problem with adept, it probably crashed.10:25
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slaxyhey guys i tried " sudo dpkg -reconfigure -plow gdm " to change my desktop manager from kdm to gdm ... but it says dkpg: conflicting actions --control and --remove ..... plz help10:26
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[Nige] hi all10:27
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Linux_Galorefixed it10:28
Linux_Galoregood o'l dpkg10:28
[Nige] how do I map my windows key "superkey" to the panel popup menu10:28
[Nige] ?10:28
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Linux_Galoreslaxy: why do you want to change to gdm ??10:29
fdovingslaxy: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm'    'dpkg-reconfigure' not 'dpkg -reconfigure'10:30
SillyZwell this is nice, get lmsensors all set up, do a sensors -s.... no sensors found10:30
SillyZsigh10:30
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Pensacolahow can I update firefox to 1.5.0.7?10:30
slaxyLinux_Galore: well i installed XGL on gnome and when i switched it to kdm XGL isnt working.... also, i wanted to know how to change kdm to gdm , vice versa10:30
slaxyoops...  let me try that fdoving10:31
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Linux_Galoreslaxy: ok, Im usre i saw a compiz kde plugins package10:31
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Linux_Galoreslaxy: did you install the plugins package for compiz ??10:32
Linux_Galorethe kde plugins*10:32
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slaxyLinux_Galore: well even i heard of it... and i wanted to try XGL on kde.. that was the primary reason why i installed kde.. guess i will give that a try in few hours... but for now... i just want to switch to gnome for a while...10:33
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Linux_Galoreslaxy: xgl needs the desktop plugins for that working enviroment for it to work10:33
slaxyhmmm ok10:33
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Linux_Galoreslaxy: bet you didnt installs the kde plugins such that hardly anything happens10:34
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Linux_Galoreslaxy: the effects are driven by plugins10:35
SillyZLinux_Galore: I think ive got the problem worked out here, the arch the 5300 was built around was APM technology not ACPI technology.... thus newer kernels are only supporting acpi not apm10:35
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Linux_GaloreSillyZ: you can install apm still10:35
slaxyLinux_Galore: yea i havent and i will soon... cos i also like kde the way i like gnome....10:35
Linux_Galorebut yes apm didnt work that well10:35
slaxyanyway brb... guys catch ya soon... thx for the help.... :)10:36
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SillyZLinux_Galore: Id have to recompile the kernel to do it.... modprobing the apm mod tells me it dosent exist10:36
PensacolaI've downloaded the latest firefox but I don't know where to unpack it10:36
Linux_GaloreSillyZ: its a seperate package10:36
SillyZunpack it into some junk folder, then run the installer10:36
SillyZtells me no such device on modprobe apm10:37
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SillyZmakedev /dev/APM ?10:37
Linux_GalorePensacola: usually ~/Documents is were i dump firefox10:37
Pensacolaok thx10:37
SillyZor is there a boot command line i can use to tell acpi=off and apm=on10:37
Linux_Galoreok Im out10:37
zorglu_!eclipse10:38
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB10:38
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SillyZ*sigh* unfortunatly I gotta pull this laptop drive out, stick it in another box to re-install Kubuntu over the Gubuntu installation..... no cdrom10:38
SillyZwelp ill bb w/ Kubuntu :D10:39
SillyZthanks for the help everyone10:39
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|lostbyte|weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.. !!10:59
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zblachanother issue. i've a built in webcam, but am unable to use it.11:01
zblachit11:01
zblach's detected as a USB PTP class camera, but errors upon use/configuration11:01
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ubuntu_hi11:02
ge2xhey could anybody recommend a good download manager for kubuntu?11:02
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ubuntu_how stable kubutu really are?11:03
fdovingge2x: kget11:03
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zblachubuntu_: fairly11:03
ge2xwhere do i get it?11:03
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x__hola11:04
x__alguno que hable espaol11:04
x__me puede ayudar11:04
abattoir!es11:04
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:04
x__quiero instalar el compiz +xgl en mi kubuntu11:04
abattoirx__: ^^^11:04
ubuntu_'cause i want to switch my net activity from xp to linux and this looks perfectly good alternative11:04
fdovingge2x: adept11:04
ge2xtnx11:04
abattoir!compiz11:04
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:04
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abattoirx__: ^^^^^ too11:04
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ubuntu_and another Q kubuntu or ubuntu peep?11:06
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zorglu_wow i switch my dev env from fc4 to kubuntu in less than 24h :)11:07
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kalagarazhow can I check my KDE version?11:08
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SillyZgreetings, am in live install of kubuntu....11:08
glaedrhi11:08
SillyZno filesystem selection for reiserfs ??11:08
SillyZtheres jfd and ext3, but no reiserfs option?11:09
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SillyZjfs even11:09
SillyZam i mmissing something here or was it just simply left out completely?11:10
abattoirSillyZ: nope, ReiserFS isnt available11:10
abattoirSillyZ: you can manually do it if you want though11:10
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abattoirSillyZ: with mkreiserfs11:10
SillyZaue thats my backup plan at the moment11:11
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SillyZnow how to tell the installer /dev/hda2 is swap and hda3 is reiser....11:12
kalagarazhow can I check my KDE version?11:12
MilanZRhi,i need help about xmms11:12
abattoirkalagaraz: Help->About KDE11:12
kalagarazthanks11:12
MilanZRis there have onyone who can help me?11:12
MilanZRa*11:13
SillyZI can try MilanZR11:13
abattoirSillyZ: dont do anything during the partitioning stage(qtparted), and there'd be a summary page about the partition layout, you can specify at that time11:13
MilanZRthx sillyZ11:13
SillyZwell it gives 2 options use the full drive or manually partition11:13
MilanZRi try to install11:13
MilanZRbut i hve prob with gib11:13
SillyZand whats the error your getting?11:14
abattoirSillyZ: do you have data which you need on the Harddisk?11:14
kalagarazOk my version of KDE is out of date. How do I upgrade?11:14
SillyZnope,  its open free space11:14
kalagarazDownload full KDE?11:14
MilanZRconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***11:14
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abattoirSillyZ: do you want only kubuntu on it? or do you plan on adding something else later?11:14
MilanZRbut i have glib install11:14
SillyZsoo  yuou need to install Glib v1.2.2 or greater11:14
abattoirkalagaraz: which version do you have?11:15
MilanZRwhen i do check on glib it works11:15
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SillyZopen   up the synaptic package manager and search for glib11:15
zorglu_glib2 would be better :)11:15
kalagaraz3.5.211:15
zorglu_glib is for glib111:15
MilanZRhmmm11:15
MilanZRbut i have glib on my PC11:16
SillyZabattoir: its going to be a dual boot system, hda1 contains winhosed, hda2 is swap for hda3 which is linux, and hda4 is just plain ol fat32 storage11:16
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abattoirSillyZ: ok, then choose manual partitioning, and then create those partitions11:16
abattoirSillyZ: and if you plan on installing windows, I suggest you do that first before installing Kubuntu11:16
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SillyZI had to create the partioins manually with fdisk as it would only allwo me to create 1 partition under the manually edit partition table option11:17
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SillyZas long as I can get hda3 set for / and hda2 set for  swap Im good11:17
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abattoirkalagaraz: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php11:18
SillyZseems to take an awful long time scanning the drive for different filessytems11:18
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zorglu_!root11:20
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:20
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SillyZnow it says its formatting the swap andd other partitoin on hda3, but that its formatting it to god only knows, was a reiserfs on the prior11:21
kalagarazabattoir I ran those commands and get "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found"11:21
abattoirkalagaraz: i guess you can ignore the 'wget....' and the 'sudo apt-key...' commands for now11:22
SillyZhmmm no choice for package selection during installation,  not cool  imho11:22
abattoirkalagaraz: you'll get an error saying the packages are not trusted, when you download them, you can ignore that too11:22
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SillyZnow heres the big question, this drive is a 2.5inch laptop drive which is currently connected to a 3.5inch converter so i can install kubuntu....... prior in gnome-ubuntu, the cpu fan would not turn itself on, does anyone know if kubuntu is acpi or apm bacsed ??11:24
MilanZRno11:25
MilanZRtry to guess :)11:25
SillyZMilanZR: :P11:25
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MilanZR50%-50% :D11:25
SillyZIm assuming acpi but thought id ask for sure11:25
fdovingSillyZ: generally, installing on another machine, and moving the disk might leave such things unconfigured.11:25
SillyZthe older laptop is an apm abased system with no acpi functiion11:26
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fdovingSillyZ: you can't boot the install image with pxe over the network or something?11:26
SillyZfdoving: if ou have some way of installing it nativly on the laptop without having to pull out the hard drive id love to hear it11:26
kalagarazI'm sorry really new to linux, but I'm getting 'deb command not found'11:27
SillyZi know of the PXE boot method, but that seems to be aton of work for what its going to accomplish 1 time11:27
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SillyZheh 100gb drive w/  8mb cache..... can we say sccreamin?11:28
zorglu_q. i would like to have a terminal with a root shell in it and the ability to launch X command (aka to display), what can i do ?11:28
abattoirkalagaraz: ok... do as i say..11:28
abattoirzorglu_: 'sudo -i'11:29
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abattoirkalagaraz: heh, no :P11:29
kalagarazyay11:29
abattoirkalagaraz: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'11:29
abattoirkalagaraz: that opens your sources.list file in kate, which is a text editor11:29
zorglu_$ sudo -i11:29
zorglu_root@jmehost1:~# xclock11:29
zorglu_Error: Can't open display:11:29
zorglu_abattoir: doesnt seems to work :)11:30
kalagarazlots of failed device errors, that normal? still opened11:30
abattoirzorglu_: that's because root doesnt have an X session11:30
abattoirkalagaraz: ignore that11:30
zorglu_abattoir: how can i allow root to display on my desktop ?11:30
zorglu_abattoir: like kdesu is doing11:30
MilanZRSillyZ,i try do  ./configure glib but there is some error configure: error: *** pkg-config not found11:30
MilanZRand the main prob11:30
MilanZRis11:31
abattoirkalagaraz: add 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main' (w/o the quotes) to the end of that file.11:31
MilanZRi have png on my pc11:31
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abattoirzorglu_: why do you want to launch xclock as root?11:31
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kalagarazdone11:31
abattoirzorglu_: and why do you want a 'root shell' instead of using sudo?11:31
zorglu_abattoir: xclock was only an example :) after that i will launch other command11:31
abattoirkalagaraz: ok, now save that file and close kate11:31
zorglu_abattoir: because i need to be root quite a lot and typing all the time is consuming11:32
abattoirkalagaraz: now do 'sudo apt-get update'11:32
kalagarazdone11:32
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abattoirzorglu_: you mean typing the password or sudo?11:32
abattoirkalagaraz: no errors?11:33
kalagaraznope11:33
abattoirkalagaraz: and do you see http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde... ?11:33
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abattoirin the 'output'11:33
zorglu_abattoir: both :)11:33
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kalagarazI see a bunch of things like Get:1 http://kubuntu.org dapper Release.gpg [191B] 11:34
abattoirzorglu_: for the password, you can edit /etc/sudoers11:34
MilanZRis there have anyone who can help me abot png and glib ?11:34
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MilanZRabout*11:34
abattoirkalagaraz: ok, fine, now do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'11:34
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abattoirzorglu_: if you want to run X as root(which is not recommended at all), close your current session and run startx as root11:35
abattoirkalagaraz: do you see new KDE pacakges?11:35
kalagarazits updating or something11:35
kalagaraz30%11:35
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kalagarazGet:25 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main imagemagick 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.2 [1616kB] 11:36
zorglu_abattoir: ok i think there is a misunderstanding, what i want is not to run the whole X as root but simply to get a thing like sudo with 'x forwarding'11:36
zorglu_what kdesu is doing to get the 'X forwarding' ?11:36
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abattoirzorglu_: from what i understand, they run these programs under your user, but with root privileges... i'm not sure that's possible from a root prompt11:37
zorglu_The program you execute will run under the root user id and will generally have no authority to access your X display. KDE su gets around this by adding an authentication cookie for your display to a temporary .Xauthority file. After the command exits, this file is removed. <- fromhttp://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kdesu/Internals.html11:38
zorglu_hmm i think i need to get something like xhosts or something11:38
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kalagarazAlright that finished. I assume I should reboot now?11:39
abattoirkalagaraz: are you sure? so soon?11:40
kalagarazyeah11:40
abattoirkalagaraz: i suspect you missed something somewhere11:40
zorglu_ok xhost is not working11:40
kalagarazI did about, and it said 3.5.411:40
abattoirkalagaraz: did you see kde packages being upgraded?11:40
kalagarazyeah11:40
abattoirkalagaraz: ok, that's good then :)11:40
kalagarazThis isn't a cheap computer :)11:40
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kalagarazand a 10mbps internet connection11:40
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abattoirkalagaraz: well, the servers arent always that fast :P11:41
kalagarazSo I don't need to reboot?11:41
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abattoirkalagaraz: well, if you want only the new KDE to take effect, restarting X is good enough11:41
kalagarazalright.11:42
abattoirkalagaraz: unless you installed a new kernel or something... then you might want to restart11:42
kalagarazbrb11:42
kalagarazwait11:42
kalagarazhow do I restart just KDE :)11:42
kalagarazstartx nevermind :)11:43
abattoirkalagaraz: close all open apps, unsaved stuff, and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace11:43
abattoirheh11:43
flaccidk menu | log out?11:44
abattoirflaccid: yes, but the former is faster :P11:44
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flaccidits not clean11:44
kalagarazAlright. Now to try to figure out how to install superkaramba11:45
flaccidwhat signal does it send to open apps?11:45
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abattoirkalagaraz: do you have universe enabled?11:45
kalagarazuniverse?11:45
abattoir!universe11:45
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:45
abattoirkalagaraz: ^^^11:45
flaccid!hacking11:46
abattoirkalagaraz: once you enable it, you can find superkaramba there in adept, or do 'sudo apt-get install superkaramba'11:46
kalagarazI see a blank page11:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hacking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:46
flaccidah ubotu isn't a hacker11:46
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abattoirkalagaraz: the wiki is a bit slow, might take time to load11:46
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kalagarazthere it goes :) thanks11:46
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SillyZwell heres a kick in the shorts for ya..... this 'fan' problem with the CPU not wanting to turn on, well it appears it only wants to turn on about 10 percent of the time otherwise the fan is physically 'stuck' ...11:48
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lynxorgdhttp://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=10062811:48
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kalagarazwoot superkaramba installed :)11:50
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kalagarazGlad that worked, the configure file when I downloaded it failed :(11:50
kalagarazmissing c compiler11:50
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siim!mp311:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:50
abattoirkalagaraz: if you plan on compiling software manually, you'd need some tools,11:51
abattoir!b-e11:51
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:51
zorglu_abattoir: in case another asks the same question, the trick was to (i) put "xhost +local:" as plain user who loged in X, and (ii) do 'sudo -i' (iii) isinde the sudo 'export DISPLAY :0.0' and then xclock works ok :)11:51
abattoirkalagaraz: ^^^11:51
zorglu_an obvious one :)11:51
abattoirzorglu_: thanks, i'll remember11:52
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lynxorgdhttp://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=10062811:53
lynxorgdhttp://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=10062811:53
lynxorgdhttp://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=10062811:53
ElectrolyteDoes anyone know if there is a hardware limit on the amount of keyboard keys that can be pressed as the same time?11:53
lynxorgdhttp://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=10062811:53
lynxorgdhttp://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=10062811:53
lynxorgdhttp://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=10062811:53
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ElectrolyteBloody spammers :/11:53
ChousukeElectrolyte: depends on the keyboard.11:53
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siim!Universe11:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:53
ElectrolyteAh, right - some people keep telling me they can press up to about 6 keys when I can only press up to 3.11:53
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siimi can press 8 at the same time :D11:54
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ElectrolyteUp to 3 on my USB keyboard before no other key works in a game.11:55
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LynoureElectrolyte: what do you test it with?11:55
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ElectrolyteA game.11:55
Chousukeyou have a crappy keyboard then11:55
ElectrolyteIf I press more than 3 keys the motherboard usually beeps at me, or the 4th keyboard doesn't do anything.11:56
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Electrolyte4th key*11:56
ElectrolyteBut I've not tried that in Linux yet.11:56
ElectrolyteSo far it hasn't done anything like that in UT2004.11:56
kalagarazI'm obsessed with widgets11:56
ChousukeAs far as I know it depends entirely on the hardware of the keyboard11:56
llxcamxllwidget the world watcher11:56
Chousukethere was a web page that explained this.11:57
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Chousukebut I can't remember the URL11:57
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LynoureElectrolyte: I do not have any keycombos that use altctrlaltgr + something on the top11:57
ElectrolyteThe ones I use at times are ctrl + a and w.11:57
ElectrolyteWhich would be crouch then move forward & left - which works.11:58
LynoureElectrolyte: I was wondering whether there is software that shows what all is pressed down11:58
ElectrolyteI haven't an idea.11:58
imbrandonxev maybe ?11:58
Chousukeit depends on the keys you press too11:59
zorglu_any way to remove those "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" each time i open kate ?11:59
Chousukeif I press q and a, w no longer works11:59
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LynoureElectrolyte: some cheap keyboards also cannot handle multiple presses without hw-related weirdness I have been told12:00
ElectrolyteI've got a Logitech Media Elite.12:00
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AyabaraI run rsync to backup my photos, but I get the message "rsync: chgrp failed: Operation not permitted (1)". can anyone give me a quick tip? I run "rsync -avz"12:04
USlvlCF~MilanZR: cannot pm12:04
USlvlCwsup man12:04
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kalagarazHow do you install a theme?12:07
arcasaHow do you run a .tgz?12:08
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kalagarazthat's like a zip isn't it? don't you extract it? :)12:08
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arcasaYeah... I started Kubuntu 3 days ago... I don't know how to do that either :P12:09
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kalagarazright click it12:09
siim!libxine-extracodecs12:09
SillyZgreets from the laptop12:09
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB12:09
kalagarazand extract12:09
SillyZwoohoo!12:09
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siim!multiverse12:09
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:09
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arcasaCool. I extracted it. Now I have an executable that I don't know how to use.12:11
arcasa(I'm trying to run the old Linux version of Tibia :P)12:11
llxcamxll./filename12:11
arcasaI tried to get Tibia running in WINE12:12
arcasaBut.... Well you know. Being on Linux is like being black in 1940's America.12:13
zorglu_wow lilo died yesterday...12:13
zorglu_glups12:13
MilanZRgood job SillyZ :)12:13
abattoirkalagaraz: a .skz theme?12:14
siimknetworkmanager can't connect to my wpa-tkip secured wireless networks it just "freezes" on 28% i'm using linksys WUSB54G 802,11g 2,4ghz intel chipset12:14
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kalagaraz.kth12:15
Ayabarano rsync wizards here?12:16
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LynoureAyabara: what's your magical need? Many levels of mages...12:18
SillyZMilanZR: wasnt too tough just had to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org when i moved it ove to the   lapptop, other than that it seems fine12:18
SillyZthe issue with the fan wasnt a software failure  was a physical failure of the cpu fan12:19
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SillyZas long as its moving air over the cpu heatsink , thats all i care atm :D12:20
AyabaraLynoure,  I run rsync to backup my photos, but I get the message "rsync: chgrp failed: Operation not permitted (1)". I run "rsync -avz" from ext3 to a fat3212:20
SillyZwrong permissons mounted on the drive for fat32 ?12:20
kalagarazI figured out how to install theme12:21
kalagaraz:)12:21
LynoureAyabara: iirc, fat32 does not do groups...12:21
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AyabaraLynoure, ok. do I just need another argument to make it work?12:22
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zorglu_q. where can i change the desktop shortcut12:23
LynoureAyabara: what do you have the fat32 mounted as? (that in, check the permissions first like SillyZ said)12:23
zorglu_like if i press alt-f4 i go to the forth desktop12:23
fdoving!fat3212:23
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:23
AyabaraLynoure, SillyZ : owner - view, modify. group and others  can view only12:24
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SillyZabattoir: sometimes the wrong user permsiison can be set when mounting a faat32 drive only allowinng root to create  / exxecute files on the at32 drive12:24
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Ayabaracame up like that default :-)12:24
abattoirSillyZ: that message was for Ayabara ?12:25
SillyZctrl+alt+1 will get you a proompr, ctrl+alt+7 will get ya back onto your desktop12:25
SillyZabattoir: yes it was12:25
SillyZsorry tired as hell been out storm spotting all night , and jus winding down here12:26
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hastesaverAyabara, remove the -a, I think12:26
Ayabarahastesaver, I'll try it out. I have an external hd formatted as ext3 too, so I did the backup there instead for now12:27
hastesaverAyabara, you only need -r, I think (-a stands for -rlptgoD)12:28
Ayabarajust wanted to get to the bottom of it :-)12:28
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hastesaverAyabara, read `man rsync` :-) I think the "-g" in -a is causing problems, as FAT doesn't have groups12:28
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KalagarazHow do I change my resolution?12:31
Ayabarahastesaver, SillyZ, Lynoure: thanks for helping me out. because of this channel I haven't visited my xp install in weeks :-)12:31
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SillyZAyabara: np, gladi could be of help12:32
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Raul12what extra software is with dvd .iso file in kubuntu12:36
Raul12any list of those software12:37
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Raul12any112:41
Raul12help ?12:41
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zorglu_i think the dvd contain a package list :)12:42
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zorglu_i dunno it offhand12:42
abattoirRaul12: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.list might help12:43
zorglu_you may try to google for "kubuntu dvd package list"12:43
zorglu_or this url :)12:43
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abattoirit might not be in the best format for viewing the packages...12:43
abattoirbut basically all the stuff under /pool/main and /pool/restricted12:43
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freewillcan some one help me to install eclipse?12:44
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Raul12ok12:44
freewilli told adept to install the pkgs and it downloaded through last night12:45
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Raul12u have to name the package12:46
freewilleclipse is installed now but in adept it tells me 'eclipse----BORKEN(intalled)-----BREAK(no change)'12:46
Raul12freee12:46
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Raul12check the dependiencies for eclipse12:47
Raul12then reinstall it12:47
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freewillif i tipe eclipse in the console it tells me cat: /etc/eclipse/java_home: No such file or directory and some others stufff12:48
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freewilli'd guess eclipse and my jre are clashing12:48
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freewill(i have tried reinstalling)12:49
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Raul12did u check the dependiencies ?12:49
freewillno, but doesn't adept do that for you (it downloaded allot of stuff with eclipse)12:50
SAngeliHi guys. I am considering kubuntu as an alternative to gentoo. What are the most common issues with this distro I should learn?12:51
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freewillthis is what i got when i re-installed eclipse just now "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."12:51
Raul12if thier any internal mismatch then apt cant get it right12:51
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Raul12better check dependiencies n manual then install and if u can do it manually12:52
Raul12than apt - install process12:52
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freewillthx12:53
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Raul12np12:53
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Raul12can any 1 give the link of software archive ? pls12:57
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abattoirRaul12: what software archive?12:59
freewillis there a java jdk (not some thing like gcj) in the archives? if so whats its name?12:59
abattoirRaul12: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?12:59
psb154freewill, sun-java5*12:59
freewilli have got gij-4.1 and i think it might be a reson for eclipse not working..01:00
abattoir!info sun-java5-jdk01:00
ubotusun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB01:00
psb154!sun-java01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
freewilllol01:00
psb154:-)01:00
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Raul12 i want the link where i can down software from ubuntu archive01:01
freewillsun-java5-jdk is not in my list01:01
abattoirRaul12: try packages.ubuntu.com01:01
Raul12k01:01
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abattoirfreewill: do you have multiverse enabled?01:01
freewillyes every thing that can be enable is01:02
abattoirits in multiverse, so if you have it enabled, it should be there01:02
freewillexcept the comments ofcourse01:02
Raul12is all the packages listed in packages.ubuntu.com are in dvd version ??01:03
psb154freewill you may have to add 'multiverse' to one of these sources...01:03
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abattoirfreewill: make sure its enabled against 'dapper' rather than 'dapper-backports'01:03
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abattoirRaul12: no01:03
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octanread this.. it so funny  --->> http://www.crisscross.com/jp/forum/Worlds_worst_hacker%_IRC_t ranscript/m_422436/tm.htm01:03
freewillabattoir: should i rename it because dapper-backports is how mine looks01:04
abattoirRaul12: only packages under main and restricted make it into the DVD01:04
Raul12hmm01:04
abattoirfreewill: add universe multiverse to 'dapper' then, dont rename it01:04
abattoir!multiverse01:04
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:04
freewillthx01:04
abattoirfreewill: ^^^ just in case you need some reference01:04
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Hobbseeoctan: please dont spam01:04
octanHobbsee shutup and read it :P01:05
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Hobbseethe link is dead anyway01:05
Raul12i think the server is down i cant enter01:05
abattoirindeed01:05
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Hobbseetake out the %01:06
octandead.. i can go to it01:06
freewillabattoir: under what does eclipse go? like multivese and stuff01:06
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abattoir!info eclipse01:07
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB01:07
abattoirfreewill: ^^^ universe01:07
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Raul12i am asking a silly ques. universe = free ???01:08
HobbseeRaul12: yep01:09
Raul12multiverse = shareware ?01:09
abattoirhttp://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components01:09
Hobbseeoctan: heh.  i love the fact that he doesn tknow what 127.0.0.1 is01:09
abattoirRaul12: ^^^^01:09
octanHobbsee lol yea..01:09
Raul12lo thxs01:10
Raul12^_^!01:10
freewilldid you read the article on digg about that guy that 'hacked him self'01:10
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Raul12nope O_O?01:11
Raul12hacked himself ? how01:11
octanread the like i posted :)01:11
octanjust take out the % and you its a valid url01:11
freewilllol this guy thinks he got kick form chat but it was just a normal time-out01:11
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freewillso his like i'll hack the guy that kicked me01:12
freewilland some one told him that the hackers ip was 127.0.0.101:12
Raul12invalied request url O_O?01:12
Raul12octan01:13
octan_hacker% become _hacker01:13
octantake out the % i said :)01:13
Raul12k01:13
octananyway i need to make a initscript for my mythbackend01:15
octancan i use start-stop-daemon for it?01:15
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freewilland he deleted his own hdds rofl01:16
freewillabattoir: is this how it should look? 'deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main universe multiverse'01:16
D4m4gehello all01:16
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freewilldam 56/ks01:17
abattoirfreewill: yes, that's right01:17
abattoirfreewill: add restricted too though01:17
abattoirdeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse01:17
freewillcool so you got the last message01:17
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abattoiryes, you didnt get mine :P01:17
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abattoir</quote>01:18
freewilli'm to poor for some :O01:18
abattoirhuh?01:18
KalagarazDo I need to get special drivers for my nvidia card?01:18
Hobbsee!nvidia01:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:18
Raul12yea01:19
freewilllol no i just spent too much on gfx and not on hdd01:19
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octanKalagaraz,  yes and no is you want gxl you need the nvidia driver else you can use the nv driver01:19
octan*glx01:19
freewillshould i add deb-src one too?01:19
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octanno,,01:20
Kalagarazwhat's glx?01:20
abattoirfreewill: not unless you'd want to download the sources for the packages01:20
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freewillok thx for the help cya01:20
abattoirfreewill: which most users dont need01:20
octanKalagaraz something you need to get full performance of you nvidia card :)01:21
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pielgrzymis there a program for data recovery fron ntfs partitions for linux? :)01:21
octanno01:21
SAngeliHi guys. I am considering kubuntu as an alternative to gentoo. What are the most common issues with this distro I should learn?01:21
pielgrzymany chance I will sucessfully run a data recovery program on vmware?01:22
octanSAngeli issues?  ther is no issues :P01:22
SAngelireally?01:22
octanya.01:22
ge2xhey i tried to extract an archive with ark to /usr/local/games and it said that i dont have write permission01:22
ge2xbut im the administrator01:22
octange2x sudo01:23
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SAngelioctan: is it a preferable choice among fedora, suse and kubuntu?01:23
ge2xand is there any way to do root stuff not from the command line?01:23
octanSAngeli, its a good choice01:23
edvmechhello01:23
SAngelioctan: thanks01:23
edvmechnew here , whats up ?01:24
octange2x root? ther is no root unless you make one..01:24
octansudo passwd root to make one :p01:24
octanbut then you need to setup sudousers01:24
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abattoir!sudo01:24
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:24
ge2xhmm for example i need to change a folder permissions from konqueror and i cannot cause the owner is root and my user is ge2x01:25
freewillwhat is sun-java5-bin and why would i need it for sun-java5-jre?01:25
eihnatuse sudo command then01:25
octange2x then you need to startup konqueror like this..01:25
octankdesu konqueror01:25
ge2xbut changing permissions from the command line sui have to type sudo chmod...01:26
eihnatdj01:26
KalagarazNow to try and install xgl/compiz01:26
eihnatops, wrong window01:26
octange2x, yea. sudo chmod 755 blah blah01:26
octanetc01:26
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octange2x, sudo chown ge2x:ghe2 755 blah blah01:27
octanerm01:27
ge2xi know that command its just i want to do stuff like that from the gui and not the command line01:27
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octange2x, i toild you how to01:27
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octankdesu konqueror01:27
ge2xbut is there a way that i could have root privileges when i login to kubuntu?01:29
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octandude.01:30
octanwhy you want that01:30
octanmake a icon on your desktop.. make the command of the icon kdesu konqueror01:30
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ge2xcause then i wouldnt have to type my password everytime when i launch synaptic or ather app that could alter the system01:31
octange2x, go install windows01:31
ge2xand i could write all the folders without the command line01:31
octanyou dont login as root01:31
ge2xhmmm i wonder why isnt there a posiibility to do that?01:32
octanit is posseble01:32
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ge2xhow?01:32
octanbut i ain telling you it,, cos your stupid if you wanna be root all the time01:32
ge2xplz tell me01:32
ge2xwhy plz explain it to me01:33
octanno,, i dont wanna be the one that tould you how to screw up your install :P01:33
ge2xif i wanted i could srew up my install with sudo :P01:33
octange2x, dont play with root.. make the changes you need .. do it once and thats it01:34
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octange2x its not like that,, lets say your in konqeror and in the /boot dir,. and you by accsident hit delete on the files,, then what do you do..01:35
ge2xoh so the only reason why the user created by me cant have root rights is because i'd srew up my system?:/01:35
ge2xahhh...01:35
ge2xwouldnt it ask do i REALLY want to delete that file?01:35
octanand you said yes..01:36
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ge2xbut why i'd wanna say yes?01:37
octanyou dont understand the power of root do you?01:37
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ge2xroot is a precaution from noob that go and screw up anything they lay their hands on01:39
ge2xbut not everyone is taht kind of noob01:39
llxcamxllhow can i make my pc connect to the router through usb?01:39
octange2x, only a noob want to log in as root01:39
octanllxcamxll, yes if you got the proper driver.01:40
llxcamxlllike which one?01:40
octani dont know.. google01:40
Raul12where can i find libraries with their descriptions ???01:40
llxcamxll!usb01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
llxcamxlloh01:41
octanllxcamxll use google.. network usb connection01:41
ge2xi'm just fed with all those "enter ur password" dialogs and "u dont have permission to do that"01:41
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llxcamxllok01:41
Raul12where can i find libraries with their descriptions ???01:42
octanwhat libs?01:42
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Raul12all liabries listed01:45
Raul124 ubuntu n their destripions01:45
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HobbseeRaul12: either apt-cache show packagename, or packages.ubuntu.com01:47
octanapt-cache show kde01:47
octanlol01:47
octandam you,, you beat me01:47
octan:P01:47
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octange2x, do you use xchat?01:49
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KalagarazI'm following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=845077  but I'm getting missing compiz package error01:50
Kalagarazon the sudo apt-get part01:50
octange2x, letrs say you use xchat.. and you login to X as root.. and someone tould you to do /exec -o rm -rf / and acualty did it,, what do think what would happen :P01:50
zorglu_q. i would like user to be able to dump core file. but ulimit -c report 0. how can i change this ?01:51
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||arifaXhow can I disable the single click feature in kubuntu, I want to doubleclick on files and folders for opening not single.01:54
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zorglu_there is an option for that in window behaviour i think01:55
octanyes01:55
octanther is01:55
zorglu_in short, this is possible but i dont remember where exactly :)01:55
||arifaXlet me see, I am sorry to ask that but I could find, let me see01:55
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zorglu_i would like to do echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid at every boot, where is the proper place to put this ?01:57
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pavihow to play mp3 in kubuntu01:58
abattoir!mp301:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:58
abattoirpavi: follow the instructions there^^^01:58
paviya01:58
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||arifaXzorglu_ I can not find it01:59
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zorglu_look more :) and find somebody to find it for you :)02:00
||arifaX:)02:00
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zorglu_i saw it this morning, so it is there :)02:01
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octanzorglu_ make a init sctipt that does that02:06
zorglu_i put it in /etc/rc.local02:07
zorglu_now i have to reboot to see if everything is ok :)02:07
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Raul12i have all liabries stored in 'lib' folder how do i install all libraries in it all at once ??????02:09
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Raul12help ? ... ^_^02:10
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Raul12....02:12
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kalagarazAnyone know how to install xgl/compiz02:14
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Raul12help ?02:17
Raul12i have all liabries stored in 'lib' folder how do i install all libraries in it all at once02:17
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exobuzzRaul12: i don't under stand your question ?02:18
octanRaul12 explain more02:18
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octankalagaraz yes i know how to02:18
exobuzzkalagaraz: there are many tutorials/howtos on the forums www.ubuntuforums.org02:19
octanhttp://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/howto/xgl&compiz/compiz&xgl.txt02:19
Raul12i have software packages stored in "lib" folder in home dir. How can i install these all software at once ?02:19
Raul12without typing name of each02:19
exobuzzyou have .deb packages in a diretory call /lib in your home directory and you want to install them ?02:20
Raul12yea02:20
exobuzzcd; cd lib; dpkg -i *.deb02:20
octandpkg -i02:20
octan:)02:20
Raul12thxs u 2 ^_^02:20
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kalagarazIs kubuntu dappar installed automatically02:23
kalagarazthat guide you posted said to install it?02:23
octanjust follow it line by line :)02:24
octanit aint that hard02:25
kalagarazwill that work for amd65?02:25
kalagaraz64*02:25
octani dont know.02:25
octanit should02:25
kalagarazI was following some other guide and I got to a part and missing gset-compiz02:25
octanas long as the files in the repo is 64 arch it will work02:25
Raul12i cant enter help.ubuntu.com.  r they servicing server02:25
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Raul12O_O?02:25
kalagaraz64 arch? How do I check?02:25
octansynaptic or adept does that for you02:26
octanapt02:26
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kalagarazeh missing package errors even with yours02:30
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kalagarazthis time says can't find compiz-kde02:30
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mendredhi any one using kooldock here?02:34
mendredhey Hobbsee02:35
Hobbseehey mendred02:35
Hobbseei'm not, sorry02:35
mendredHobbsee: oh its ok :)02:35
mendredit was a question to everyone in general02:35
mendredbasically when i do a fullscreen movie02:35
mendredit still comes up02:35
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mendredat bottom02:36
mendredunless i set the auto hide to on02:36
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abattoirmendred: you can add a 'Special Window/Application setting' to overcome that problem02:50
mendredabattoir: ummm the trouble is i am not using kwin02:51
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mendredabattoir: do u know how can i do it in cgwd02:51
abattoirmendred: nope02:51
mendredabattoir: *sigh* will keep it on autohide then02:51
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mendredbtw aiglx-compiz on this laptop runs like a charm02:52
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mendredamazed that it runs so well on lousy hardware02:53
timpinoHi!02:53
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timpino!adept02:54
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:54
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timpinoI have kind of a problem with adept, I though it was taking to long, and I had to go to bed, so I quit it during installing of something, now I can't start it because it says it's already running, so I killed an adept process and tried again and now I can see all the lists but I can't apply my changes02:57
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seb__Hello all.02:59
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seb__Does somebody already tryed to create a Debian package for a KDE applicaiton?02:59
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seb__I'm at the "fakeroot debian/rules binary" stage of the .deb package creation. But in a Makefile.am, there is a $(kde_datadir), so it try to install some files in / instead of the debian/myapp folder.03:01
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seb__Somebody here?03:02
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timpino!java03:11
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:11
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slow-motionhallo03:12
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der0bhi folks, is there any way to prevent kde from messing with my gtk themes?  this was a kubuntu machine, I installed the ubuntu-desktop and the kde gtk settings are preventing me from changing menu fonts without making the change in kcontrol03:14
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slow-motionre03:17
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kbrooksping :P03:18
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fildo!openvpn03:29
ubotuopenvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-1 (dapper), package size 310 kB, installed size 940 kB03:29
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nimrodhello03:30
szkuciakhello03:31
nimrodi want to install MySQL runing apache03:31
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LeeJunFan!lamp03:32
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP03:32
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CVirusLAMP > GoD03:33
nimrodthanks03:33
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sc0tchQ: I'm trying to remoe/uninstall OpenOffice, if I select the package for removal it reports that kubuntu-desktop will be removed also, that doesn't sound good. Is that the proper way to remove OO?03:34
CVirussc0tch: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package .. you can easily remove it while removing OO then install it again03:35
CVirussc0tch: not very sure about that though03:35
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Kr4t05sc0tch: kubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package, so, it's safe to remove OO.03:35
zorglu_it is written in the kubuntu-desktop description which is safe to remove it03:35
zorglu_got the case yesterday :)03:36
Kr4t05Man, I want to compile something03:36
sc0tchthanks, I'll give the removal a try.03:36
zorglu_be a man and do compile then :)03:36
octan!paste03:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:37
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martenhi03:40
marteni upgraded my dapper to edgy03:40
octandoes this look like a ok init script for my mythbackend ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2375603:41
martenand now there aren''t any fonts shown03:41
martenneither in a real console nor in kde03:41
martencan anyone help me please?03:41
octanhah. and you didnt expext to get buggy apps when you upgraded03:42
octanwhy in gods name did you upgrade to edgy =03:43
octan?03:43
martenoctan: of course i did. i only upgraded because i have still a working gentoo.... :D03:43
martenoctan: but for every bug there is a fix ^^03:43
octanits still stupid if your not a dev or pkg maintainer03:43
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martenoctan: ok yeah i know03:44
martenbut any idea how to fix?03:44
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octanask in #ubuntu+103:45
martenok thx03:45
octannp03:45
MetaMorfoziShave the kubuntu livecd the k3b?03:46
octanno clue., just apt it :P03:46
MetaMorfoziSwhere the livecd saves?03:46
MetaMorfoziShow many freespace it have?03:46
octanehh03:47
octanthink :P03:47
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loehnhallo, sind deutsche da?03:55
shegman#kubuntu-de03:55
CVirus!de03:55
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:55
CVirusloehn: ^03:55
loehndanke03:56
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shegmanbitte03:56
zorglu_!flash03:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:56
ge2xcould anyone plz tell me how to install quake 3 on linux?03:57
shegmanwith wine. i had no problems03:57
shegmaneven with the default wine installation03:57
zorglu_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 <- i got those very frequently, how can i get rid of them ?04:01
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sorush20hi .. could someone tell me if this feed here give you very odd dates .. like 27/02/293509304:02
sorush20http://www.newscientist.com/feed.ns?index=stem-cells04:02
SonicChaoI'm trying to compile a package....and it says:04:03
SonicChaochecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!04:04
SonicChaoFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.04:04
zorglu_!info qt-dev04:04
ubotuPackage qt-dev does not exist in any distro I know04:04
sorush20well SonicChao have you looked at the file , if not then you don't really have to just install qt-development files04:05
zorglu_you need to install qt lib, but i dunno the ubuntu name for it04:05
sorush20!info libqt-dev04:05
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ubotuPackage libqt-dev does not exist in any distro I know04:05
SonicChaosorush20: I don't kow what to look for.04:05
SonicChaosorush20: Want me to pastebin?04:05
sorush20SonicChao: no wait.04:06
SonicChaok04:06
sorush20104:06
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sorush20!info libqt4-dev04:06
ubotulibqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3478 kB, installed size 17228 kB04:06
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sorush20that is the package I think04:06
SonicChaoOk.04:06
sorush20use adept or apt-get get install..04:07
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SonicChaolibqt4-dev is already the newest version.04:07
SonicChao0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.04:07
sorush20did you do sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev04:07
SonicChaoYeah04:07
SonicChaoThat's what it says.04:07
zorglu_qt4 is NOT compatible with qt304:07
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SonicChaoo.o; Then I need Qt3 libraries?04:08
XVampireXya04:08
zorglu_yep, play with 'qt3' in adept04:08
SonicChaook.04:08
SonicChaoCan I have Qt4 and Qt3 libs?04:08
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XVampireXQt widgets are not as cute as GTK widgets04:09
sorush20is anyone else getting the same error in akregator using using this feed http://www.newscientist.com/feed.ns?index=stem-cells04:09
zorglu_it is unlikly you need qt4, as it is not really used now04:09
zorglu_and i know kde developper got a lot of issues about having both at the same time04:09
zorglu_i dunno if those issues applie to you tho04:09
zorglu_but i would advise against having both04:09
SonicChaoThere are so many qt3 packages though...04:10
SonicChaoI don't know what to install. T_T04:10
zorglu_!info libqt3-dev04:10
ubotuPackage libqt3-dev does not exist in any distro I know04:10
zorglu_!info libqt-dev04:10
zorglu_!info libqt-devel04:10
ubotuPackage libqt-dev does not exist in any distro I know04:10
zorglu_!info libqt3-devel04:10
ubotuPackage libqt-devel does not exist in any distro I know04:10
zorglu_massive spam :)04:10
ubotuPackage libqt3-devel does not exist in any distro I know04:10
sorush20stop it you guys..04:10
zorglu_well i dunno :)04:10
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sorush20just use adept and search for the packages. install anything that says headers and qt3 and 404:11
sorush20that is it ..04:11
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SonicChaoHeaders?04:11
sorush20SonicChao: wait04:11
SonicChaosorush20: k04:11
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sorush20sudo apt-get install libqt3-compat-headers libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev libqt4-dev04:12
sorush20just do that..04:12
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SonicChaoOk.04:13
sorush20is you get errors just do sudo apt-get -f install, or sudo apt-get -f remove04:13
sorush20if you still get errors just do sudo dpkg --configure -a04:13
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sorush20and if you still get error pastebin the errors..04:14
SonicChaoIt's not a deb package.04:14
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SonicChaoIt's a targz.04:14
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SonicChaoOk. I've installed them. Do I run ./configure again?04:14
sorush20SonicChao: what are you compliling?04:15
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sorush20SonicChao: this is what I should have asked in the beginning04:15
SonicChaosorush20: ScreenKast04:15
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zorglu_there is a pacakge for it no ?04:16
SonicChaoNo.04:16
SonicChaoI checked the repos before trying to install this way.04:16
zorglu_hmm the author itself came here to get its new version pacakge04:16
Kr4t05Hawkwind:04:16
Kr4t05ping04:16
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zorglu_so i get ther is a old version04:16
SonicChaoCould be. I'd install it.04:16
SonicChaoI just don't know the name for it.04:17
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sc0tchin a 'dpkg -l' list what does the prefix 'rc' mean in front of the package name?04:17
zorglu_SonicChao: http://instrudeo.bpower2.com/packages/Ubuntu/dapper/ look here:)04:18
SonicChaoCool. =304:19
SonicChaoDo I install all of them?04:19
zorglu_http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/110-Easy-screencasting-with-Screenkast.html and here :)04:19
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sorush20SonicChao: see there was a package..04:19
gnomefreaksc0tch: it should tell you on the top of the output of dpkg -l04:19
SonicChaosorush20: Not in the repos. Or was I aware of it.04:20
sorush20usually I just do a .deb programname search in google..04:20
gnomefreakwell i thought it did :(04:20
sorush20someone will have enventually done a package on it..04:20
SonicChaoOk. =)04:20
SonicChao"vncserver with a set password*  *Those are not direct dependencies, but will be required to actually record the videos. "04:21
SonicChaoThat's confusing me.04:21
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SonicChaoDo I already have that?04:21
zorglu_!java04:23
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:23
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SonicChaoOh. I have Java. XD04:23
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CaBlGuY!icq04:24
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.04:24
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SonicChaoIs that server down or something? It's not even downloading.04:26
psb154!jaba04:26
SonicChaoThe deb package.04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jaba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
david_psb154: do you mean jabber?04:26
psb154yes04:26
psb154:-/04:26
psb154that'll be why I cant find the home page :-/04:27
SonicChao!jabber04:27
ubotujabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, like MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org04:27
psb154ta04:27
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david_tehee. clearly you need to be a star wars geek to use linux :-D04:27
psb154lol04:27
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david_!skywalker04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skywalker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
sorush20david_: no star wars.. star trek..04:28
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Russelhiho04:28
david_jabber the hutt was in star wars dude.04:28
david_jabber the communication protocol was his brother.04:28
SonicChao=(04:28
SonicChaosorush20: Can you download the debs? I can't.04:28
Russelhow much swap need i to using suspend to disk with 512 mb ram?04:28
david_your swap is the equivalent to "virtual memory" in windows.04:29
david_generally the rule of thumb is twice the size of your physical memory.04:29
ge2xhow can i bypass the md5 sum verification used by sh?04:30
david_^^note how russel uses Yoda speak, thus tying in another Star Wars reference.04:30
abattoirheh :P04:30
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david_when does sh use md5?04:31
SonicChaoT_T What debian pkgs? There are none.04:31
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ge2xi type sh script.run04:31
SonicChaoThat are on a server that goes faster then 2.5kb/s at least.04:31
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sorush20SonicChao: I was able to ..04:31
ge2xand then it says error in md5 checksums04:31
zorglu_ge2x: this mean your download is corrupted04:31
sorush20send me your email and I will send to you..04:31
SonicChaosorush20: Then can you send them to me with DCC?04:31
zorglu_not a good idea to bypass it :)04:32
SonicChaosorush20: Ok, that works too04:32
ge2xtell me plz if u know04:32
ge2x:)04:32
SonicChaosorush20: sonicchao05 AT gmail DOT com04:32
Russelmhhh at the moment i have 509 swap and 503 ram (told by free)04:32
Russelis it sufficent for suspend to swap?04:33
david_quite probably, suspend does a RAM cleanout before it suspends.04:33
david_and some crazy compression shizzle.04:33
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Russelok04:33
sorush20SonicChao: Its coming though04:33
david_best way to find out...test it04:34
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SonicChaosorush20: your sending? ok.04:34
david_if it goes horribly wrong with the message "not enough swap" then you need some more.04:34
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sorush20SonicChao: did you look for other programs like this/04:34
SonicChaosorush20: Not really. =(04:34
sorush20SonicChao: you really should do..04:35
SonicChaoD= That isn't exactly helpful...04:35
SonicChaoBut I'll try04:35
SonicChaoAnd thanks for sending debs. =304:35
sorush20check your mail now.. its about 3mb04:35
SonicChaoYeah. I have them.04:36
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sorush20np..04:37
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SonicChaoI wish there was some sort of KDE version of GDebi Pkg installer. Oh well.04:38
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david_SonicChao:   have a look on kde-apps.org,04:39
SonicChaonow it's saying I have no VNCServer.......04:39
SonicChao*runs into wall*04:39
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JohnFluxHey all!04:42
JohnFluxI have a sony video camera04:42
JohnFluxi've plugged it in...04:42
JohnFluxlsusb sees it04:42
JohnFluxbut it's not registering as a storage medium04:43
JohnFluxso I'm not sure what to do next04:43
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SonicChaoI04:43
SonicChao'll sudo apt-get it.04:43
zorglu_JohnFlux: try with vlc to see the pitcure :)04:44
JohnFluxapt-get what?04:44
zorglu_picture04:44
JohnFluxzorglu_: hmm?04:44
sorush20JohnFlux: what is the meda flash or tape?04:44
JohnFluxdvd-rw04:44
JohnFluxalthough when I just put the dvd-rw in my machine it thinks it's blank04:44
JohnFluxsame in windows and linux04:44
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sorush20JohnFlux: must be patented format sony is using.04:45
SonicChaoAAAAAAAAAAA.......04:45
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sorush20just type the model number of you camera in google like mycamera ubuntu dapper04:45
SonicChaosorush20: This isn't working right. I installed VNC Server, etc. etc.04:45
sorush20see what you get04:45
SonicChaoIt's recording a blank screen with an X for a cursor. Not what Im looking at =(04:46
SonicChaoAnd then it says "error while importing the recorded session"04:46
HawkwindKr4t05: Pong04:47
SonicChao*jumps out window*04:47
Kr4t05Hawkwind: Hey...04:47
Kr4t05Hawkwind: Now I forgot what I was going to say...04:48
sorush20SonicChao: did you manage to install everything .. ?04:48
SonicChaosorush20: Even that development package?04:48
SonicChaoI was...supposed to do that...?04:48
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HawkwindKr4t05: Hah.  Happens to me all the time04:48
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zorglu_hmm i like ubuntu :) our pompom girl is nelson mandela while window pompom girl is a guy which have been repeatedly convincted for unrully behaviour04:48
zorglu_2 worlds :)04:49
sorush20SonicChao: yes do all of that04:49
jasonhi everyone04:49
SonicChaoOk.04:49
sorush20jason: hi04:49
jasoni have problems with using a video capture card... hp media center m1080... Leadtek Winfast 2000XP Expert... any pointers??04:50
sorush20SonicChao: did you install vnc4server?04:52
SonicChaosorush20: No.04:52
sorush20try that one..04:52
sorush20and uninstall the older one..04:52
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nimrodi installed apache with php module and everything. When i go to http://localhost/apache2-default/ says everything its ok and apache is running But when i try to see a .php file return "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /login/index.php on this server."04:55
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nimrodi dont understand04:56
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josh_hey04:57
SonicChaosorush20: This time it's weirder.04:57
sorush20SonicChao: I don't think I can help you any more04:58
josh_what's the command to make shift + backspace not restart X04:58
sorush20SonicChao: your best bet it to look for a howto on the whole thing..04:58
josh_it keeps happening to me04:58
sorush20I never used it before..04:59
sorush20goot luck04:59
SonicChaoHmm...04:59
SonicChao=(04:59
josh_does anybody know that command?04:59
SonicChaosorush20: Can you recommend anything like it?05:00
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sorush20SonicChao: you should really read the faq on the http://www.captorials.com/index.php?cmd=faq05:04
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DjDarkman`hy ,is amarok and mp3 support available on the dapper dvd?05:05
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abattoirDjDarkman`: no, its not05:06
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david_dapper DVD?05:08
david_is that a live disc?05:08
DjDarkman`abattoir and how can I get it if I don`t have  internet connection?05:08
david_that would be just genius.05:08
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david_DjDarkman`: stick it on a USB pen.05:08
abattoirDjDarkman`: you'd have to downl libxine-extracodecs(in universe) and libmad005:08
abattoir!info libxine-extracodecs05:09
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB05:09
abattoir!info libmad005:09
ubotulibmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB05:09
abattoirDjDarkman`: ^^^^05:09
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abattoir*(in multiverse)05:09
DjDarkman`do they have dependencies?05:09
SonicChao=(05:09
SonicChaoI need a KDE program to record what I'm doing on the screen05:10
DjDarkman`SonicChao you want to make a movie?05:10
SonicChaoDjDarkman`: YEs05:10
nethadSonicChao: there exists skreenkast05:11
david_!istanbul05:11
abattoirDjDarkman`: you should have those installed already05:11
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB05:11
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nethador screenkast, i'm not sure05:11
SonicChaoOh no. Not screenkast.05:11
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abattoirDjDarkman`: libxine-extracodecs depends on libmad0(among other things), that's why i mentioned it specifically05:11
SonicChaoThat has screwed me so bad in the last hour or so.05:11
abattoirDjDarkman`: the others are libc6(which should be installed) and zlib1g(which i think is also installed)05:12
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SonicChaodavid_: I'll try that.05:12
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renantem algum brasileiro aki05:13
SonicChaoWhatin the world?05:13
SonicChaoWhat is that red thing down there? o.o05:13
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SonicChaoAnd how od I get it to start capturing?05:13
abattoir!br05:13
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.05:13
abattoirrenan: ^^^05:14
renanoi05:15
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renanqual que  desse programa ?05:16
david_arg, I've forgotten how to read english.05:16
zorglu_lets guess the language ... :)05:16
zorglu_!es05:16
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:16
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david_espanol I'd guess05:16
david_(that's spannish to any language n00bs)05:17
zorglu_spannish is not the proper term ?05:17
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david_zorglu_: what is then?05:18
zorglu_ok i missed something :)05:18
Lukecan anyone help me install ndiswrapper please?05:19
david_I'm off to tackle a huge pile of washing up05:19
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Lukecan anyone help me install ndiswrapper please?05:21
zorglu_oinnn eclipse crashed and dont want to come back now05:22
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abattoirLuke: sure...05:22
jitaHow do i search for the installed packages?05:23
Lukeabbattoir: ive tried installing it using the make install command which doesnt work05:23
abattoirLuke: do you have ndiswrapper-utils installed?05:23
abattoirjita: in adept? or in the command line?05:23
jitaabattoir: command line05:23
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abattoirjita: dpkg --get-selections05:24
Lukeabattoir: i have ndiswrapper-1.23 which i unpacked and then tried to install05:25
jitaabattoir: it does'nt show the version number?05:25
abattoirjita: 'dpkg -l |grep ^ii'05:25
abattoirLuke: ok, is there a reason why you aren't using ndiswrapper from the repos?05:26
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Lukeabattoir: because i have to do it offline05:26
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abattoirLuke: ok, then you'd need the kernel headers05:27
abattoirLuke: do you have them installed?05:27
Lukeabattoir:i dont think so, it asks for kernal build files05:27
jitaabattoir: thanks05:27
abattoirLuke: exactly, you need the kernel header files05:27
abattoirjita: you're welcome :)05:27
jitaabattoir: and how do i know which version apt-get is going to install?05:27
Lukeabattoir: is there a debian with them in?05:28
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lontrai'm running edgy and my window borders don't look like those on the knot3 wiki05:28
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lontrawhat's the default window for edgy?05:30
Lukeabattoir: how do i get the kernal header files?05:31
abattoirLuke: you'd need to install the respective linux-headers-{uname -r} package05:31
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abattoirwhere {uname -r} would be your kernel version05:32
abattoir(got by typing uname -r in the cli)05:32
jatosanyone know what 'more' does?05:32
abattoirlontra: crystal05:32
jatosits part of util-linux05:32
abattoirjatos: try 'man more' ;)05:32
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abattoirlontra: did you upgrade *after* knot3 was released?05:32
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lontraactually...i installed a build a week ago and today installed kubuntu-desktop05:33
abattoirjita: i think it mentions it when upgrading...05:33
jatosthanks abattoir05:33
abattoirjatos: :)05:33
jitaabattoir: nope only the names of the packages to be upgraded05:33
jatosI am doing an LFS build via my kubuntu system and was wondering what it did...05:33
jatoshandy tool now I know...05:34
abattoirlontra: well, then there have been updates after knot3(as they are constantly being revised) so you have the latest revision, which was modified after knot305:34
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abattoirjita: one sec...05:34
jitaanyone point me to the screenshots of knot3?05:34
lontraabattoir: well i had to 'polished' it up cause i run the kde wizard and i think screwed stuff up :)05:34
jitaabattoir: sure05:34
abattoirjita: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu05:35
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abattoirlontra: aah, yes, kpersonalizer...05:35
jayuelhello05:35
abattoirlontra: remove ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizer if it keeps coming up05:35
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Freddy2hi05:35
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lontraabattoir: is there a way i could set it to the defaults?05:35
abattoirlontra: Click on the icon on the windeco(to the left of the title)->Configure Window Behaviour->Window Decorations05:36
abattoirlontra: and choose Crystal05:36
jitafrankly telling that purple color is not a good idea, hope they do something in final or beta edgy05:37
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lontrai don't mind the purple  - it's nice on the eyes05:37
abattoirjita: afaik, its staying05:37
lontrawhat is kimdaba now called?05:37
lontrakphotoshow?05:37
abattoirjita: if you have some comments on it, add it to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas-Feedback05:38
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jitaabattoir: many people already pointed out that puple thing matter :P05:39
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zorglu_abattoir: mine is 'no purple!!!' :)05:39
abattoirzorglu_: :P05:40
nethadi read that there will be hibernation support in edgy, what's the difference between hibernation and sleep or standby?05:40
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zorglu_i say a poll must be made :)05:42
zorglu_and im confident about the result :)05:42
zorglu_and made before releasing this as the real LTS stuff05:42
lontrazorglu_: what do you want purple or not purple?05:42
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zorglu_i dont want purple :)05:43
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greghi ya'all I'm trying to update from kubuntu breezy to kubuntu dapper. When I "apt-get install kde-desktop" I get errors involving unmet dependencies. Should I just install those packages it's complaining about or will this just hose everything up?05:43
lontra:)05:43
zorglu_there is a reason why everybody does it blue :)05:43
zorglu_people like blue05:43
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zorglu_some like purple but a lot less than blue :)05:43
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zorglu_there are actually marketing study about this :)05:43
MilanZRhey ppl,which p2p prog, is the best for linux ?05:44
nethadgreg: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperReleaseNotes/Kubuntu/UpgradeProblems?highlight=%28dapper%29%7C%28upgrade%2905:44
gregMilanZR: frostwire05:44
MilanZRtnx greg05:45
jitaMilanZR: amule. apollon?05:45
|lostbyte|MilanZR, kmldonkey05:45
gregnethad: thanks05:45
MilanZRoo nice :)05:45
|lostbyte|BRB05:45
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MilanZRtnx ppl05:45
Lukewhere can i download the headers?05:46
abattoirjita: ubuntu doesnt seem to have apt-show-versions -u .... i'll see if i can find something else05:46
jitaabattoir: oh ok05:46
Luke*where can i download the kernel header files?05:46
abattoirjita: try install 'apt-show-versions'05:47
abattoirjita: then try apt-show-versions -u05:47
HawkwindLuke: apt-get install linux-headers05:47
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abattoirLuke: package.ubuntu.com05:47
abattoirHawkwind: he has no internet connection05:48
HawkwindOh05:48
abattoir*packages.ubuntu.com05:48
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abattoirLuke: ^^^05:48
jitaabattoir: I added kde-354 repo in sources list, now if i do apt-get install kde, it will install 3.5.4 version?05:48
gnomefreakneed net connection for that too05:48
HawkwindIf he doesn't have internet, how's he going to get to that URL :P05:48
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abattoirjita: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'05:48
Hawkwindjita: Just do dist-upgrade05:48
abattoirHawkwind: i meant on the system where he was installing :P05:48
jitaI hope it does'nt upgrade to edgy05:48
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Hawkwindabattoir: Heh I know.  Was just being funny05:48
gnomefreakLuke: you need to download it from packages.ubuntu.com save it to a usb stick or a cd and than install it using dpkg05:49
abattoirjita: no it wont :P05:49
Hawkwindjita: It won't unless you added edgy sources05:49
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abattoirjita: as long as the 'distribution' section says dapper05:49
jitayes it is dapper05:49
Lukegnomefreak: where is it in packages?05:49
gnomefreakLuke: what does uname -a say?05:49
abattoirLuke: you need to go search for it there...05:49
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Luke2.6.15-26-38605:50
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jitabtw whats the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade?05:50
gnomefreakjita: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=2.6.15-26-386&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all05:51
Hawkwindjita: dist-upgrade will update things like the kernel and such, where upgrade won't05:51
Hawkwindjita: dist-upgrade will also get you to the next version of the OS if you have the right sources set, where upgrade won't05:51
jitaoh ok05:52
CViruswhat pacakges do I need to use make xconfig ?05:53
MnabilCVirus: qt, you can use, kconfig   too05:54
gnomefreakCVirus: make is in build-essential05:54
CVirusMnabil: I have qt installed already05:54
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CVirusgnomefreak: I'm talking about xconfig not make itself05:54
MnabilCVirus: you can ask in #kernel05:55
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gregnethad : I read the page and yes I do have kde 3.5 running on breezy. Is it safe to go ahead and do a dist-upgrade or will this break kde?05:56
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leleobhzhow can i set the popup block for somesites?05:58
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fernandaALGUIEN Q HABLE ESPAGNOIL05:58
leleobhzi need some sites allowed to open popups05:58
Hawkwind!es05:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:58
fernandaESPAOL05:58
Lukethe linux headers wont install05:58
Hawkwindleleobhz: What broswer ?05:58
fernandaOK05:58
fernandaGRACIAS05:58
leleobhzHawkwind: konqueror05:58
fernandaO THANK YOU05:58
Hawkwindfernanda: You're welcome(denada)05:59
leleobhzfernanda: por favor, no uses mayusculas05:59
leleobhz:] 05:59
fernandalo siento05:59
Hawkwindleleobhz: Ah I don't use konqueror as a webbrowser so I'm not sure05:59
leleobhzHawkwind: ok05:59
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fernandaes la primera vez me me meto aca (is the first time that i'm here05:59
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leleobhzfernanda: y es la primera chance de escribir en espanol en anos :] 06:00
abattoirleleobhz: when konq. blocks a site, a small icon is shown at the bottom... click on it and choose to show the window06:00
fernandahow can i change channel06:00
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leleobhzs/la primera/la mia primera/g06:00
abattoir*click on it and select the option to show the window06:00
Hawkwindfernanda: Type:  /join #Kubuntu-ES06:00
leleobhzfernanda: qual cliente?06:00
fernandaok06:00
leleobhzHawkwind: :p06:00
fernandaquiero irne a ese mismo06:00
fernandakubuntu es06:00
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nickstelo all06:00
jitawhich language is this?06:00
abattoirjita: Spanish?06:01
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Lukethe kernel headers wont install06:01
jitai dunno i am asking :P06:01
abattoirjita: ok, Spanish.06:01
nicksteHow do I run firefox? I've downloaded it, and extracted...06:01
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fernanda /join #Kubuntu-ES06:01
fernandaspanish06:01
fernandajejje06:01
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fernandaeso tengo q escribir?06:01
leleobhzsi06:01
Mnabilnickste:can you apt-get it06:02
leleobhzpero sin espacio06:02
Mnabil?06:02
fernandaojk06:02
nicksteyeah.06:02
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fernanday domndese supone06:02
Hawkwindnickste: Why didn't you just sudo apt-get install firefox instead ?06:02
fernandajkajajajaj06:02
nickstejust apt-get firefox?06:02
nicksteah06:02
nicksteokies06:02
fernandano cacho una06:02
nicksteta :)06:02
dennisterahhhhhhhhhh here at last (?)06:02
Mnabilnickste: apt-get install it06:02
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josh_NO06:03
josh_OMG06:03
dennisterhow is everyone this beautiful day?06:03
nicksteE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:03
josh_emergency!06:03
nickste?06:03
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abattoirnickste: you have adept open...06:03
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nickstebleh06:03
Hawkwindnickste: If you have adept open, you need to close it06:03
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nicksteI'm new to this :) thanks06:03
fernandame resulto06:03
abattoirnickste: you can install it through adept as well06:03
josh_adept went into read only mode and no matter what i do it says its being used by another process06:03
fernandagracais muchachos06:03
josh_how do i fix this?06:03
fernandagracias06:04
nicksteaha, it's working :)06:04
abattoirnickste: just search for firefox in the adept search box06:04
abattoirok, nvm :)06:04
nickstereeally don't like Konqueror browser!06:04
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leleobhznoone use konqueror as webbrowser?06:04
CVirusme does06:04
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nickstelol, it is the WORST06:04
dennisteri use konqueror as browser06:04
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dennisteri like that i can use one program for web AND system file browsing06:05
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CVirusat least it doesnt leak memory when left idle for a couple of hours like Firefox06:05
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nicksteSo let me guess, you use IE in windows ;-p06:05
CVirusno time for that .. sorry06:06
abattoirand it can rip cds, act as an ftp client, show a terminal window, act as an ssh client... bleh i'm too tired to type all of its features :P06:06
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dennisterwould anyone have some time to help a noob with some config fixes?06:07
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Wodgerall programs will tend to leak or just gather memory as it uses more...06:07
f2b.06:07
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Nicksteonce I download the extracodex support (for mp3's), do I need to do anything else to get them working? e.g restart sound server?06:07
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abattoirNickste: nope, just close and reopen amarok06:07
dennisteri'd really, really, really(!) appreciate it06:07
abattoirdennister: what do you need help w/ ?06:08
abattoir!ask06:08
qwertyI'm having some trouble with mailto: association. Anyone care to help me?06:08
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:08
abattoirdennister: ^^ :)06:08
abattoirqwerty: in konqueror?06:08
Nickstehmmm, it doesn't play... Does this have anything to do with the fact that the mp306:08
dennisterseveral areas: sound for one (mike is default and it shouldn't be06:08
Nickste's are on NTFS drive?06:08
dennisteralthough it's working...wierd...06:08
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qwertyabattoir: No, in firefox06:09
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dennisterall my mp3's extra codecs, movies, dvd's --all working :)06:09
abattoirNickste: might be, see if copying over a file to your home and playing it from there works06:09
qwertyI read somewhere, on some maillist, that there was some problem with this in kubuntu06:09
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Nicksteokies06:09
abattoirqwerty: isnt there an extension for that?06:09
qwertyThat you had to use Kmail for it to work06:09
qwertyabattoir: A firefox plugin, you mean?06:10
abattoirqwerty: yes06:10
zblachexperts, i'm having a strange problem which, when googled, yields no results. on waking from a suspended state, my sound refuses to play. any ideas?06:10
abattoirqwerty: which client do you wish to use?06:10
abattoiremail client, i.e06:10
row#red-eyez06:10
qwertyMight solve the problem. But it should be handled by kubuntu, methinks06:10
Nicksteabattoir: works now, once i copy it across :)06:10
qwertyFirefox and Thunderbird06:10
qwertyInstead of Konqueror and Kmail06:10
abattoirzblach: everything else works? mouse, keyboard etc. ?06:10
zblachyeah06:10
zblachsound just doesn't run upon waking06:11
dennisterdid u c my reply?06:11
abattoirNickste: i think there is a problem w/ reading from NTFS, dont remember if it was fixed06:11
Nicksteok06:11
Nickstewhere do I find firefox once it is installed?06:11
abattoirNickste: are you running the latest version of amarok?06:11
Nicksteyep06:12
dennister better "-)06:12
abattoirNickste: you installed from the repos?06:12
qwertyNickste: /etc/firefox06:12
zorglu_Nickste: in the internet menu, but you need to restart kde06:12
zorglu_btw good question06:12
dennisterseems I'm rusty with irc, 206:12
Nicksteah, as in reboot?06:12
Lukewhy wont the kernal headers install?06:12
qwertyNickste: Could do ALT+F2, enter "firefox" and hit enter too06:12
NicksteI'm using amorak 1.3.906:12
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zorglu_q. how do i make the menu reload the conf06:12
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Nicksteshot qwert06:12
zorglu_Nickste: it would work, but delog and relog is enougth06:12
Nicksteok, thanks06:13
abattoirqwerty: try Kcontrol/System Settings->KDE components->Default Applications06:13
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qwertyabattoir: I'm using Thunderbird as my client06:13
Nicksteaaahhhh, MUCH better :)06:13
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qwertyabattoir: Yeah, I did that06:13
abattoir!amarok06:13
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org06:13
qwertyabattoir: But then nothing happens when I click mailto: links06:13
abattoirNickste: ^^^ see if upgrading fixes that prob., not sure if it will, though06:13
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abattoirqwerty: did you enter the correct path?06:14
qwertyabattoir: Let me doublecheck that06:14
dennister I suppose everyone's too busy; I'll be patient06:14
zblachalmost as thought it can no longer detect my sound hardware after entering standby06:14
Nicksteabattoir: ok, will do06:14
abattoirdennister: what was your question? :P06:14
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qwertyabattoir: Hrm.. I don06:15
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dennister heheh...my mike is default alsa; it shouldn't be06:15
qwertyabattoir: I haven't given it any parameters, I see06:15
abattoirdennister: huh? what do you mean?06:15
abattoirqwerty: so it works now?06:15
qwertyabattoir: I'll try with "mozilla-thunderbird %t"06:16
abattoirqwerty: ok06:16
dennister in my hal configs, usb mike is showing as default alsa device, yet everything is working properly with non-default sound from mobo06:16
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Nickstegcc doesn't come installed by default does it?06:16
qwertyabattoir: Nope, nothing. Unless I have to restart firefox?06:16
qwertyNickste: Nope06:16
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abattoirqwerty: try restarting...06:17
dennister i'm proud that this noob has all her multimedia codecs and everything's working beautifully with non-mike alsa06:17
dennister except for surround sound06:18
Lukemy linux headers wont install because there missing themselves =S06:18
abattoirdennister: what do you mean by 'non-mike' alsa? i still dont get it06:19
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qwertyabattoir: Didn't solve it. :/06:19
dennister my sound is onboard with the mobo06:19
nagyvhello! I plan to buy my first PDA/Pocket PC in the comeing week, and I would like to hear your suggestions. I have two expectations. 1) synch with my kubuntu, 2) to be able to use Skype (this means that is runs Windows Mobile 5 or PocketPC 2003). Which softwares would you recommend me?06:20
dennister that should be the default alsa device (mobo ac97) --not the usb mike06:20
Lukehelp me get my headers installed please?06:20
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qwertyabattoir: Any other suggestion as to how I could solve this?06:21
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=== punkmexic I have problems with my winmodem..its a .deb (smartlink) that i downloaded..i can connect.the problem is that if im not connected to internet my phone line is killed i cant do calls cuz my kubuntu blocks my phone what could i do?? can somebody send me a private message and help me===???
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dennister I'm thinking that if I could fix which sound system is the default for also (Nvidia/realtec ac97) showing up in the hardware device manager, then perhaps I can get my surround sound06:22
abattoirqwerty: i cant think of anything else... but i remember  a firefox extension that lets you configure the mailto: settings(open w/ an external app, open w/ a webpage etc.)06:22
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qwertyabattoir: I'll look that up, thanks06:22
dennister it's also annoying to have the mike as default alsa device;;; it's not right and I know it06:23
qwertyOn another note, I need mysql working but not sure how I can go about getting that06:23
abattoirdennister: try Kmix->Switches->Mic. select06:23
qwertyI have downloaded it with the Adept manager, but that's it06:23
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dennisterqwerty: i'd like to get that fixed myself06:23
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dennister abbatoir: i did fix that in kmix...but it's still not showing up properly in device manager --and remember, all my multimedia sound is working through non-default ac9706:25
qwertydennister: It's a odd for some reason, having to boot windows to do some developing :P06:25
abattoirpunkmexic: kubuntu does not *block* your phone line... that's how dialup works, data is sent as pulses...06:25
Lukecan somebody please help me install my kernel headers?06:25
sybuxHi. I've justed removed my windows from my computer and added Kubuntu. I've got 2 problems. 1- Activate the dual screen on my nVidia 2- install my USB scanner06:26
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dennister lol qwerty, i'm not even a real programmer, and i never want to tough windoze again06:26
freewillif i tipe java in the console i get 'Usage: gij [OPTION]  ... CLASS [ARGS]  ...' how do i get normal java (sun) btw i have got java-sun-jre installed06:26
Hawkwindsybux: I can post my xorg.conf for you since I'm using Nvidia twinview06:26
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sybuxHawkwind: yes i would appreciate. You can private paste it to me06:27
zorglu_q. im trying to get system guard to display the network vumeter, i got a new 'worksheet' configured in system guard itself but i cant make it appears as an applet (what i want), any suggestino ?06:27
punkmexicabattoir: i undrestand that dialup block it when im online but it doesnt need to block it when im not connected thats the problem i have06:27
punkmexic*understand06:27
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Hawkwindsybux: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/10606:27
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abattoirpunkmexic: hmm, sorry, my mistake06:28
dennister but if I can't get mysql server and kmysqladmin working, I won't be able to watch tv on this kubuntu drive, so I'll be stuck with going back to win 5 days a week06:28
Hawkwindsybux: You might have to change the resolution sizes, but it should work as long as you have your nvidia drivers installed06:28
sybuxHawkwind: tkx06:28
abattoirpunkmexic: you are using kppp ?06:28
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qwertydennister: What does you watching TV have to do with running a mysql server? o_O06:28
sybuxHawkwind: you're both monitor are the same right ?06:28
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Hawkwindsybux: Correct.  They are both running at 1024x768 for an overall size of 2048x76806:29
dennisterqwerty: mythtv uses mysql server on backend06:29
punkmexicyes abattoir06:29
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qwertydennister: Haven't heard of that. Have an url?06:29
sybuxHawkwind: ok I'll adapt my xorg.conf. You have enabled Xgl also right ?06:29
dennisterqwerty: and I've just begun working with databases, too...do script-level programming with endnote06:30
Hawkwindsybux: No, I don't use XGL or compiz.  I have lines for some of it but they are commented out06:30
dennisterqwerty: mythtv.org06:30
abattoirpunkmexic: so you mean to say, even after you *disconnect*, the line isnt dropped?06:30
sybuxHawkwind: ok06:30
punkmexicyes i mean that06:30
punkmexicfor example..i turn on kubuntu06:30
punkmexicand i dont click on kppp06:31
punkmexicand im not connected06:31
punkmexicbut since my kubuntu starts....my phone dies.06:31
dennisterthis is a home theatre pc, and the only way I can watch/record tv/films is through xp media centre sof ar06:31
freewillif i tipe java in the console i get 'Usage: gij [OPTION]  ... CLASS [ARGS]  ...' how do i get normal java (sun) btw i have got java-sun-jre and i guess gij installed06:31
punkmexicso i must turn off computer to use my phone06:31
qwertydennister: Gotcha06:31
qwertydennister: You're using an antenna cable then? Or do you wath TV over the Internet?06:32
abattoirpunkmexic: you mean to say the line is blocked evne if you dont connect manually, but just start kubuntu ?06:32
punkmexici was trying to kill slmodem pressing ctrl+esc but..it says i need permission but i dont want to be killing it and reloading it06:32
punkmexicyes just for starting kubuntu06:32
dennisterqweerty: have u tried kmyswladmin yet? a gui front end for mysql server...no, I use a cable descrambler box06:32
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qwertydennister: Nope, I've never heard of it. But I'll try it right away, that was to be my next question here. ;)06:33
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punkmexici used to have dialup on uubuntu..but to connect i needed to put commands in terminal and use gnome-ppp then i upgraded..and i cant connect..i just installed kubuntu and i can connect easy as in winxp...but i have this problem that kills my phone even if im not connected to internet06:33
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punkmexici have used a minidistro...that have support to my winmodem and that one doesnt show me that  problem06:33
dennisterquerty: glad I could help then, i did get it installed, but i haven't got any kind of database yet and I can't connect tot he server06:34
abattoirpunkmexic: you were using kppp under that?06:34
dennisterperhaps it's because i haven't got a database yet?06:34
abattoirpunkmexic: i wonder if its your modem driver that's causing this06:34
punkmexicit has a similar icon to kpp but i think it wasnt kppp06:34
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dennisterbut how can i get a database if I can't connect tot he server? catch-2206:34
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abattoirpunkmexic: could be... where did you get the package?06:35
qwertydennister: You can connect to mysql even if it doesn't have a database06:35
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punkmexicpackages.ubuntu.com06:35
qwertydennister: In fact, mysql uses a database for it's settings and users and such. So it'll always have atleast one.06:35
abattoir!info slmodem06:35
ubotuPackage slmodem does not exist in any distro I know06:35
dennisterqwerty: can we chat privately? perhaps we can help each other then06:35
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abattoirinfo sl-modem-daemon06:36
abattoir!info sl-modem-daemon06:36
ubotusl-modem-daemon: SmartLink software modem daemon. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5build1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1136 kB (Only available for i386)06:36
qwertySure thing. Got some IM?06:36
sybuxHawkwind: I've a question about xorg.conf you have specified connectionMonitor "crt, crt" I'm using tft monitor shall I need to change or is it just a generic option ?06:36
abattoirpunkmexic: ^^^ you installed that?06:36
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punkmexicsl-modem daemon yes06:36
dennisterlol...not yet...loet's try this:06:36
qwertydennister: Can't query without a registered acc here06:36
qwertydennister: Kubuntu ships with clients, or you perhaps doesn't have any accs?06:37
punkmexicthis one sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5build1_i386.deb06:37
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abattoirpunkmexic: hmmm i think there is a bug in the driver...06:38
dennisterquerty, i opened a private window for u06:38
abattoirpunkmexic: since you say it does this as soon as you boot up06:38
dennisterbut I'm not sure it's open and u can see it06:38
qwertyKonversation doesn't have DCC support?06:39
Hawkwindsybux: I use tft flat panel as well.  I got my xorg.conf from a friend when I first installed Kubuntu06:39
qwertydennister: I haven't got a registered account here on freenode so I can't chat privatly it seems..06:39
punkmexicabattoir: dont u know if theres and updated driver that i can use?06:39
abattoirqwerty: it does06:39
dennisteroh, ok...neither do i actually...it's been years since I chatted on irc06:39
Hawkwindqwerty: You can register a nick06:40
Hawkwind!register06:40
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:40
abattoirpunkmexic: that's the latest for dapper06:40
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qwertyHawkwind: Ugh.. :P Very well then.06:40
dennisterrusty in this department, too..06:40
punkmexici never exxpect that only installing  a deb file my kubuntu could connect06:40
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dennisterubotu: thx! or r u a bot? lol06:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx! or r u a bot? lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
punkmexicbecause i remember i spent like 8 hours compiling a driver for ubuntu to connect some months ago06:40
abattoirpunkmexic: edgy has that as well, so i guess it is the latest package06:40
abattoirpunkmexic: try compiling then, might help you out06:41
dennisterseems it's a bot06:41
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punkmexicabattoir: im not good compiling06:41
qwertydennister: We could do this a little later, alright?06:41
punkmexicabattoir:  do u know where can i suggest to solve that bug06:41
dennisterqwerty...no probs.06:41
abattoir!bug06:41
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com06:41
dennisterhave fun06:42
abattoirpunkmexic: ^^^ try there, or you might need to register one on sl-modem-daemon's site(if it has one)06:42
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Luk1can someone please help me sort out my kernel headers? ive tried installing the linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 but it says the package linux-headers-2.6.15-26 is not installed06:43
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dennister abattoir: ur 1 busy person...helping everyone06:43
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abattoirdennister: it's fun ;)06:43
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abattoirLuk1: how did you 'install' it ?06:44
dennister lol, and i thought I was nuts for volutneering so much of my time and exeprtise06:44
punkmexicthanx abattoir06:44
Luk1its a .deb and i right clicked and used the kubuntu package menu06:44
abattoirpunkmexic: np, sorry i couldnt be of more help06:44
abattoirLuk1: and you entered your password... etc. right?06:45
Luk1yep06:45
abattoirLuk1: did it give out any error?06:45
Luk1yeh it has dependency problems06:45
dennisterbrb pps06:46
abattoirLuk1: hmmm, which package does it want now?06:46
punkmexicabattoir: DO U HAVE IDEA on how to choose to start sl-modem manually06:46
Luk1linux-headers-2.6.15-2606:46
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abattoirpunkmexic: 'sudo modprobe sl-modem' ?06:47
abattoirpunkmexic: i assume its a kernel module06:47
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abattoirLuk1: isnt that the package you are installing?06:47
dennisteri'm baaaaaaaaaaack06:47
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qwertyThat's wierd.. A configure script's telling me gcc can't make executables. o_O06:47
punkmexici mean..i want to start kubuntu with sl-modem turned off..then type a command tu turn it on when i want to connect.06:47
Luk1im installing linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 so yes06:47
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abattoirpunkmexic: first find the name of the module... is it sl-modem?06:48
abattoirpunkmexic: if it is, then blacklist the module(so that it doesnt startup at boot)06:48
abattoirpunkmexic: then do 'sudo modprobe sl-modem'(again if sl-modem is the name) to load the module06:49
kbrooksqwerty, innstal build-essential06:49
abattoirpunkmexic: and 'sudo rmmod sl-modem' to remove it06:49
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punkmexichow can i blacklist it06:49
qwertykbrooks: Umm. What? :)06:49
dennisterlet's seeeeeeeee06:49
dennisterthat's better06:49
Luk1abattoir: im installing linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 so yes06:49
abattoirLuk1: is it possible to get me the exact error message?06:49
kbrooksqwerty, you need to install build-essential for gcc to work06:50
Luk1yeh sure06:50
kbrooksAFAIK06:50
qwertykbrooks: There's a package called that?06:50
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kbrooksqwerty, yes. install it06:50
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qwertykbrooks: Found it and installing it now.06:50
timpinoHi, anyone know why filetransfers in gaim take forever?06:50
dennisterqwerty; did u install the kmysqladmin yet?06:51
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qwertydennister: Trying to, but I need to fix this first it seems06:51
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abattoir!b-e06:51
abattoirubotu: ping06:51
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:51
ubotuping: connection timeout06:51
dennisterI thought you were leaving the channel...k first things first06:51
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qwertyThere we go, thanks kbrooks!06:51
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Luk1abbatoir: it wont let me copy n paste06:52
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JohnFluxi copied a dvd as just a VIDEO_TS  folder with a bunch of files in it06:53
qwerty"checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" - Could anyone tell me how to solve that?06:53
JohnFluxcan i just burn this to a dvd?06:53
kbrooksqwerty, x11-dev06:53
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JohnFluxdoes that make a dvd movie?06:53
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kbrooksqwerty, er, no06:53
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kbrooksqwerty, let me recheck06:53
|lostbyte|Hi, guys.06:53
qwertykbrooks: Thanks06:53
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fdovingqwerty: xorg-dev if you run xorg. (you probably do).06:54
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qwertyfdoving: Another package to install, that is?06:54
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fdovingqwerty: yes, xorg-dev is the one you want.06:55
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Luk1abattoir: it unpacks06:55
Luk1dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-2.6.15-26-38606:55
Luk1linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 depends on linux-headers-2.6.15-26 however06:55
Luk1linux-headers-2.6.15-26 is not installed06:55
Luk1error processing linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 (--install)06:55
Luk1dependency problems leaving unconfigured06:55
Luk1errors were encountered by processing06:55
Luk1linux-headers-2.6.15-26-38606:55
fdovingLuk1: please use pastebin06:56
fdoving!pastebin06:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:56
heinkel_111!pastebin > Lik106:56
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heinkel_111ah06:56
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Luk1ooops sorry06:56
heinkel_111sltt av frode06:56
heinkel_111:)06:56
qwertyheinkel_111: Svenne? :)06:56
abattoirLuk1: then you need the linux-headers-2.6.15-26 package too06:56
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Luk1there isnt one, it asks you to choose the i386, amd64 or w/e06:57
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abattoirLuk1: i think its a metapackage.. wait let me check06:57
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heinkel_111qwerty: que? no comprendo :P06:57
qwertynvm then06:57
Luk1abattoir: thanks06:57
heinkel_111<- er norsk06:58
qwertyfdoving: That worked but now I bumped into another error message06:58
fdovingqwerty: what is it.06:58
abattoirLuk1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-headers-2.6.15-2606:58
qwertyQt (>= 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found,06:58
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qwertyAre those stuffed into some package too?06:58
fdovingqwerty: try to install libqt3-mt-dev06:59
qwertyThat's Gnome stuff, isn't it?06:59
abattoirqwerty: and kde-devel too, if its a kde app06:59
fdovingno, QT is kde stuff.06:59
heinkel_111qwerty: are you doing the same tutorials as I did earlier today:P06:59
heinkel_111?06:59
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Luk1abattoir: how do i just get the linux-headers-2.6.15-26?06:59
heinkel_111just get all the qt and kde stuff :)06:59
qwertyheinkel_111: Tutorial? Nope, trying to install kmysqladmin06:59
fdovingkde-devel as a build-dep is very overkill.06:59
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ninHeranyone from sweden ?06:59
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abattoirLuk1: i just gave you the link06:59
fdovingkdelibs4-dev can be used if it's a kde app.07:00
fdoving!se07:00
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se07:00
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Luk1abattoir: but if i choose i386 its the pakage i already have07:00
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abattoirLuk1: no it isnt...07:00
qwertyfdoving: Alright07:00
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ninHerubotu i mean here and now; thanks07:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i mean here and now; thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:00
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ninHernice bot lol07:00
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abattoirLuk1: there is a difference between linux-headers-2.6.15-26 and -26-38607:01
josh_i want to know how to load NVCLOCK settings on startup07:01
dennisterseems pagefualt is having probs staying in07:01
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Admiral_ChicagoninHer, you know ubotu is a robot right07:01
abattoirLuk1: and package names in ubuntu end w/ the architecture type(i386/amd64/all/ppc)07:01
sybuxHawkwind: thx for the help of the dual screen. It's working fine !07:02
ninHerAdmiral_Chicago: it was easy to guess07:02
Luk1abattoir: ok, its just it has the same filename as the one ive already tried07:02
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dennisterb4now folks07:02
qwertyfdoving: There we go, trying again07:02
qwertydennister: Cya07:02
Hawkwindsybux: No problem.  Glad to hear it helped :)07:03
sybuxHawkwind: I've just encoutred a little problem. I've removed by mistake my nvidia driver so X wouldn't start :)07:03
abattoirLuk1: then you need http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.15%2Flinux-headers-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.47_i386.deb&md5sum=f4ba23501e0321e00d70af685717cac4&arch=i386&type=security07:04
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Admiral_Chicagosybux, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:04
JohnFluxhmm07:04
JohnFluxi plugged in my camera in windows07:04
Admiral_Chicagouse the nv driver,  thats the Open Source version07:04
JohnFluxbut it wasn't recognised07:04
JohnFluxi plugged it in in linux07:04
JohnFluxand it just worked07:04
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Admiral_ChicagoJohnFlux, yea that happens07:06
qwertyfdoving: I seem to have forget the command to run after "config". "config install", was it?07:06
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fdovingqwerty: when doing what?07:06
fdovingqwerty: configure,make, make install? - if that's the case, i recommend checkinstall.07:06
fdoving!checkinstall > qwerty07:06
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qwertyNice07:07
qwertyMake doesn't exists thought, even though I just successfully ran configure07:08
fdovinginstall the 'build-essential' package.07:08
qwertyActually, I was trying ./make07:09
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qwertyJust doing make worked. I thought you had to use ./ to target that specific makefile?07:09
kbrooksno.07:09
kbrooksmake is a program07:09
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qwertyHow does it know which application I'm installing then? Configure sets that up?07:09
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kbrooksIt doesn't need to.07:10
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kbrooksapplications are a moot point to make07:10
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kbrooksmake just gets a makefile and uses that07:10
qwertyBare with me, I've been running Linux for aprox 2 days07:10
fdovingqwerty: no, to target a special makefile you can use 'make -f file' however it's not necessary as make will search for and use the file named 'Makefile' in the directory it's ran from, if it exists.07:10
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qwertyfdoving: Ahh. Thanks for clearing that up.07:11
qwertycheckinstall comes with the default kubuntu installation?07:11
kbrooksno07:11
kbrooksiit has to be installed\07:12
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qwertyAnd by using it, what I install is shown in the Adept Manager?07:12
mluser-laptopAnyone know how I can get 'kuickshow' in kubuntu?07:12
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fdovingmluser-laptop: you can't from the archives. it's been dropped as it was old an unmaintaned, and depended on a deprecated and unmaintaned library.07:13
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fdovingqwerty: correct. that's the beauty of it. you can easily uninstall stuff without deleting file-by-file.07:14
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qwerty<307:14
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mluser-laptopfdoving: thanks07:14
qwertyfdoving: Can't find checkinstall though. Is it really named "checkinstall"?07:14
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fdoving!info checkinstall07:15
ubotucheckinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB07:15
isidorhello, I need help browsing a PDF file i downloaded it but I can't view anything else?//07:15
fdovingqwerty: it's in the universe repository. do you have it enabled?07:15
qwertyCan't find it using apt-get nor.. Erm, I don't know07:15
qwertyThere, should be enabled now07:16
qwertyfdoving: Universe repository is enabled but I still can't find it07:17
qwertyActually, there were two more universe07:18
fdovingqwerty: you need to either run 'apt-get update' or run adept -> fetch updates07:18
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qwertyFound it now07:18
mluser-laptopfdoving: I wonder why it is still dropped.. its now part of the kdegraphics-3.5.4 package.  And is now being maintained07:18
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ge2xwhere can i get glibc-headers?07:18
fdovingmluser-laptop: hmm... interessting.07:18
qwertyHow I love this repository and the package handling! :D07:19
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mluser-laptopfdoving: Perhaps I need to contact the kde maintainers and let them know07:19
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ge2xwhere can i get glibc-headers package ????07:19
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Nickstehow do I change themes? I can't find the KDE folder that this site specifies: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=2807:19
|lostbyte|Nickste, kcontrol07:20
qwertyfdoving: Problems..07:21
fdovingmluser-laptop: it's still in kdegraphics, but last changes were done sometime in 2003..07:21
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fdovingqwerty: shoot.07:21
mluser-laptopfdoving: thanks..07:21
qwertyfdoving: I successfully built a debian package of the installation but failed to install it. And some process was occupied, so I couldn't even see the logfile.07:21
fdovingge2x: libc6-dev07:22
fdovingqwerty: it'll be automatically installed by checkinstall.. if i recall correctly.07:22
qwertyfdoving: Yes, but it failed to install it.07:23
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fdovingqwerty: you probably have adept running. that would make it fail.07:23
qwertyThe building was OK but the install FAILED07:23
krautmoin07:23
fdovingqwerty: as adept locks the database.07:23
qwertyUgh, that's it07:23
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qwertyDo I need to redo the entire process now or just install the package?07:23
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fdovingqwerty: install the package.07:23
qwertyfdoving: Where would I find it and how can I install it?07:24
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fdovingqwerty: hmm.. don't remember. isn't it in the current directory where you ran checkinstall? maybe in ..07:24
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qwertyfdoving: Should be a .deb file?07:24
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fdovingqwerty: yes.07:25
qwertyIf so, it's in the directory I ran it07:25
qwertyGoodies!07:25
qwertyapt-get install filename?07:25
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qwertyOr..That'd look up the online database..07:25
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fdovingNickste: you can create the directory if it doesn't exist already.07:25
CraZy675is there a way I can do key macros?07:26
fdovingqwerty: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb07:26
PsySinewill new kde releases be coming to dapper (officially) even after edgy is released, for those of us who want to keep dapper?07:26
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CraZy675so i can record keypresses then repeate them07:26
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qwertyfdoving: Err.. Package architecture doesn't match system07:26
qwertyI'll redo the checkinstall07:27
lontraPsySine: i doubt it07:27
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qwertyfdoving: Nope, I still get that error..07:28
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qwerty"package archistructure (x86_64) does not match system (amd64)07:29
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lcohengood morning all, I have a question, my new 6.06 defualt install of Ubuntu does not have a /usr/lib/hotplug directory, so I cannot load the firmware for my intel wireless...what am I missing?  thanks!07:29
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CraZy675I would like to create a macro of key presses is they a way I can do this or what would this be called so I can google it?07:30
ironfroggywhy are programs that are installed, sometimes even by default with the initial installation, seemingly missing from where you expect them? that is, not having menu entries or having "Open With..." associations you would expect?07:31
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lcohenlots of questions....no answers :( lol07:31
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fdovingqwerty: ah.. checkinstall + amd64,i don't know how to work that out. sorry.07:34
fdovinglcohen: try /lib/firmware07:35
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qwertyfdoving: Alright. Thanks anyway and thanks for all the help so far07:35
qwerty/quit07:35
qwertyErr07:35
lcohenah07:35
wayne__what is a good FTP program for kubuntu?07:35
lcohenthere it is07:35
fdovingCraZy675: can you tell me more about how you want this macro-key to work? i don't understand.07:36
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lcohenthank you07:36
Diablo_hi all!07:36
fdovingironfroggy: because, in the opensource world a lack of standard ways to do that sort of things has been a problem. Now thanks to the freedesktop.org project, we're getting better.07:37
lcohenalso, any idea which intel wirelss driver comes installed with 6.06.107:37
lontracan't you just use konqueror for ftp?07:37
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CraZy675fdoving: i have to remove the trailing and leading characters from a web form, and I don't have access to the db.07:37
Diablo_did someone know how to change keyboard map in xgl to abilitate superkey?07:37
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CraZy675fdoving: so i just wanted to record Home + del + end + backspace07:37
fdovingwayne__: there is kbear, i don't know how good it is. you can also use 'krusader' if you like twin-view filemanager-style.07:37
CraZy675and do that 300 times07:37
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fdovingCraZy675: you have a textfile you want to remove this from?07:38
CraZy675fdoving: no a web form07:38
fdovingCraZy675: ah.. hmm..07:38
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wayne__thank you fdoving07:39
pierrethWhat is the package name for the news in Kontact?07:39
CraZy675I don't even know what that would be called so i can search google for it07:39
fdovingpierreth: knode07:40
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pierrethfdoving: thanks07:40
fdovingCraZy675: me neither.. it's a special case :)07:40
ironfroggyfdoving: but im talking about things the Kubuntu installer installs by default. specifically, not putting Krita in the Open With menu for images.07:40
CraZy675I would assume someone has created something that does this in KDE07:40
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fdovingironfroggy: ah, that's another case. that's a kubuntu specific bug. please poste a bugreport at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug07:41
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ironfroggythank you07:42
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kebhi, i use now the live cd coz my grub is gone and i want to install it again07:42
kebbut i dont know how to do it07:43
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fdoving!grub07:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:43
fdovingkeb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:43
kebkk, thx07:44
kebi1ll look07:44
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themassacrehey07:47
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themassacrehallo07:48
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themassacrekan mir jemand helfe??07:48
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kebvenn du deutsche hilfe brauchst, versuch mal #kubuntu-de07:49
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themassacreoke danke07:50
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kebmacht nix07:50
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fdovingCraZy675: found it.07:53
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USlvlCi tried to dual boot with debian and installed grub to mbr07:53
kebdam.. i cannot do what that manual tells me07:53
USlvlConly to find debian netinstall sed it installed grub07:53
USlvlCbut did not07:53
USlvlChence bringing me to kubuntu07:53
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kebi dont have boot options when live cd splash appears07:54
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kebso i cannot choose to be my reiserfs partition to be my root07:54
CraZy675fdoving: really?!!07:54
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fdovingCraZy675: kmenu -> run command - type in 'kcmshell khotkeys' - expand the 'examples' entry. read the comment on 'Type hello'07:55
CraZy675fdoving: Amazing! thans07:55
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fdovingCraZy675: you're welcome. hope it works :)07:56
CraZy675fdoving: I'll let you know07:56
fdovingCraZy675: great :)07:56
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Nicksteman, I'm digging kubuntu so much!08:00
ge2xSys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem when i try to start quake 308:00
ge2xany ideas?08:01
fdovingCraZy675: i just tested with a text file, and it works great!08:01
sybuxI've got a little problem with my sound device. I've got a soundcard and a USB headset. The default device is my headset and I don't know where to change it any ideas ?08:01
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CraZy675fdoving: i'm still working on it, not having luck with firefox08:02
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vikkeanyone know of any good capture program, nothing to fancy (want to show my xgl desktop to a friend)08:06
ge2xSys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem when i try to start quake 3 any ideas?08:06
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fdovingvikke: video-capture or just screenshot?08:06
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vikkefdoving: video-capture08:06
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ge2xSys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem when i try to start quake 3 any ideas?08:08
pierrethWhat is the meaning of 'purge' in Kontact?08:08
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fdovingvikke: maybe this can help you: http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/06/30/how-to-record-videos-of-your-desktop/08:10
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vikkefdoving: thanks! :) ill check it out08:10
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unix_infidelusually if you need to do it for multiple platforms vmware makes it very easy.08:11
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fdovingpierreth: where do you find purge?08:12
pierrethfdoving: sorry, i am translating from French08:13
pierrethfdoving: in kmail08:13
fdovingpierreth: i'll translate to norwegian, so it'll be fun, in what menu?08:14
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pierrethfdoving: in the contextual menu08:14
pierrethfdoving: when selecting a folder08:14
sybuxI've got a little problem with my sound device. I've got a soundcard and a USB headset. The default device is my headset and I don't know where to change it any ideas ?08:15
pierrethfdoving: but now I know08:15
fdovingpierreth: delete, or remove i guess.08:15
pierrethfdoving: it really delete the mail deleted08:15
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pierrethfdoving: I found the doc on the net08:15
fdovingpierreth: ah, great :)08:16
pierrethfdoving: the documentation for the kde applications is not very good08:16
pierrethfdoving: the local doc that I have is just the beginning08:16
pierrethfdoving: don't you think?08:17
fdovingyes, i know the doc team is working on it.08:17
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pierrethfdoving: ah cool08:18
fdovingi have to go for 10 mins.. brb.08:18
pierrethfdoving: i really kde, I came from the Mac08:18
pierrethfdoving: OK08:18
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unix_infidelpierreth: you really {what?} kde?08:21
unix_infidelOS X front end doesnt compare to kde.08:22
pierrethunix_infidel: i like it08:22
unix_infidelwhat mac you run?08:22
pierrethi just sold it, it was a macmini08:22
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jviveshey guys!08:23
jviveswhat do I need to watch WMV on my kubuntu?08:23
unix_infidel!restrictedformats08:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:24
pierrethunix_infidel: but i think kde on cocoa are different08:24
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pierrethunix_infidel: I mean they are different08:24
pierrethunix_infidel: I miss the drag and drop with KDE08:25
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pierrethunix_infidel: I hope drag&drop will improve08:25
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pierrethabattoir: ?08:28
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n1981servus08:30
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junkphreakls08:32
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CraZy675fdoving: I have it working, perfectly!!! Thanks again08:32
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misieqi have a wireless network that i think might be providing internet only to cle08:32
misieqclients with a specified mac address08:32
misieqhow can i change a mac address of my wifi card?08:33
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lupine_85misieq: that's called MAC address filtering. It's a "security feature"08:33
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lupine_85reather neatly defeated in linux with ifconfig08:33
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misieqlupine_85: yeah, but how do i change my mac address? and can i check if i'm connected even if i can't ping anything?08:34
skafiskafnjakhow to list chat channels?08:34
lupine_85misieq: As I said, ifconfig lets you change mac address08:34
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misieqlupine_85: if later i use network config util from system settings will it still be set to this value i provide it with?\08:35
lupine_85it's a per-boot thing08:35
skafiskafnjakdoes anybody of you use XaraXtreme?08:35
misieqthanks08:35
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manu__hola08:36
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misieqlupine_85: could you tell me what's wrong with this: "sudo ifconfig eth1 hw ether 00:30:4F:29:EC:13"08:40
lupine_85nothing's wrong with it08:41
lupine_85if it doesn't work, the driver doesn't support MAC addressing08:41
misieqit's intel centrino duo laptop...08:41
lupine_85means nothing :)08:41
lupine_85some drivers do, some don't08:42
lupine_85nothing you can do, really08:42
misieqdriver or nic?08:42
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lupine_85could be either, I think08:43
timpino!ubuntu08:44
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome08:44
misieqwell, thanks08:44
misieqbye!08:44
lupine_85np08:44
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lupine_85good luck with the next wlan you hax0r :)08:44
lupine_85oops, he's gone08:44
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StardogIs amarok compatible with any other mp3player than ipods?08:45
SkrotThe River-something something, and almost any generic usb mass storage device08:46
Stardogah..kk08:46
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lupine_85iRiver++ !08:47
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Stardogcan i make it compatible with creative zen?08:47
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SkrotMost mp3-players are recognized as usb mass storage devices, but apple uses some crazy internal database or something on the iPod, which has to be updated when you upload files08:47
Stardogand neither creative, tried to let amarok find it today... it couldn't08:48
Admiral_ChicagoStardog, there is a package called...08:48
Admiral_Chicagodang i can't remember the name08:48
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Stardogheh :D08:48
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wayne__how can i make my windows transparnet?08:50
Admiral_Chicagowayne__, yes08:50
wayne__?08:50
david_Stardog: check the amarok wiki about creatives08:50
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david_I'm fairly sure there's an article on it08:50
Stardog!amarok08:50
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org08:50
Admiral_Chicagowayne__, let me find you the link08:50
Admiral_Chicagoit is written for gentoo though08:51
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wayne__thank you08:51
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nimrodhow can i make a shortcut file to a dir?08:51
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magical_trevskyis there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces in kde?08:53
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wayne__how can i make my windows transparnet?08:53
Hawkwindwayne__: Depends on the app you are referring to08:54
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Admiral_Chicagowayne__, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Tranparency08:54
Hawkwindwayne__: If you want them all transparent then you need to use XGL and Compiz08:54
ge2x!nvidia08:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:54
wayne__thank you08:54
kalagarazHow do I install xgl and compiz on kde?08:54
Admiral_Chicagowayne__, or AIGLX08:54
Hawkwindwayne__: Some apps like xchat and terminals do parts of it with just a setting08:54
Hawkwind!xgl08:54
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:54
magical_trevskyHawkwind, or just plain composite08:54
magical_trevskyif all you need is transparency, composite is a lot easier to setup than xgl08:55
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Hawkwindmagical_trevsky: Right.  Some apps don't even need composite though08:55
Stardogeuhm... I see new versions of kde environment coming up, will they be automaticly added for update or do I have to do that manually?08:56
fdovingmagical_trevsky: ctrl+tab switch between workspaces.08:56
klerfaytcomposite is slower than xgl08:56
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magical_trevskyfdoving, doesn't work :(08:59
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fdovingmagical_trevsky: oh..09:00
freewillhttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2531&forum=7&post_id=12104#forumpost1210409:00
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fdovingmagical_trevsky: system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> shortcut keys.. or something.09:02
fdovingmagical_trevsky: there you can set your own.. i might have done that some time ago, since ctrl+tab works for me.09:02
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magical_trevskyah, cool, thanks :D09:02
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freewillhow do i install a deb file so that it doesn't check for deps?09:05
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Admiral_Chicagofreewill, sudo dpkg -i <pacakge>.deb09:07
Admiral_Chicagoif you cd in the directory09:07
Admiral_Chicagothough it probably should check for dependecies09:07
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freewillyeah i think it will09:07
SillyZafternoon yall09:08
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SillyZIm actually finding that Kubuntu is fasterr on this same laptop I was runing Gnome-Ubuntu on... rather intresting i suppose09:08
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freewillcool didn't know that09:09
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Admiral_ChicagoSillyZ, i've heard that too09:09
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SillyZwindow changes from one application to another seem to be much more responsive, and less "laggish" than g-ubuntu was , on the same machine, same hardware, same amount of ram, swap, etc09:10
freewilli think this will do the trick 'sudo dpkg --force-depends -i <pkg>'09:10
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lupine_85+xgl & compiz makes it even faster :)09:11
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Sn4pShello all I am a newbie trying to learn. What is the way to make kubuntu look like mac os x instead of using konqueror?09:13
kalagarazWhy does this xgl guides keep failing :(09:13
kalagarazhttp://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=2006060217365863209:13
kalagarazZFollowing that, and on sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome cgwd cgwd-themes compizthemer gconf-editor09:14
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kalagarazI get no installing canidate for compiz-gnome09:14
Admiral_ChicagoSn4pS, what does konqueror have to do with graphics+09:14
dekAnyone knows how to make Opera stream wmv videos, like Konqueror does?09:15
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Sn4pSAdmiral_Chicago dunno just trying to learn how to modify the desktop look to make it look like mac os x09:16
Freddy2dek: there's an external plugin for this, but "sometimes" it doesn't work.. xD09:16
Freddy2it's called.. plugger, i think09:16
SatanGolgahow do i remove vmware?09:16
Admiral_ChicagoSn4pS, there is a walk through probably09:17
Admiral_Chicagohold on09:17
vikkecsm09:17
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Admiral_Chicagoi saw the guide a long time ago09:19
Admiral_Chicagoand it was written for GNOME09:19
Admiral_Chicagomight want to try #ubuntu i have no idea how to do it on KDE09:19
kronoznixternal, apparently you write this page, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu#head-cf9a72758eee67f1b3af7fa0c5d5f2abc35677f8, theres a few spelling errors, under the konversation header; "You can now pklace you server and channel tabs on the left hand side of the window. Refer to the image to the right."09:19
Sn4pStnx Admiral_Chicago09:19
Admiral_Chicagokronoz, i don't think nixternal is around09:20
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Admiral_Chicagoi'll put it in #ubuntu-chicago as well09:20
kronozok thanks09:21
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chrysHi everybody09:23
dekFreddy2: plugger is on the repositories?09:23
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Freddy2probably not.. i've only seen sources for it09:24
Freddy2i think you have to compile it09:24
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wwallacehow do i mount /devhda1 using live cd?09:24
TheGateKeeperwwallace: create a dir then mount /dev/hda1 <created dir>09:25
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wwallacecreate?09:25
wwallaceis live cd09:25
TheGateKeeperyou can use mkdir09:25
wwallacestraight09:26
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wwallaceno need of union fs?09:26
TheGateKeepermkdir mypartition then mount /dev/hda1 mypartition09:26
TheGateKeepermkdir mypartition then mount /dev/hda1 /mypartition09:26
wwallacelemme c09:26
TheGateKeeperooops 2nd one ^^^09:27
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wwallaceok09:29
wwallacei mountd is mounted09:29
wwallaceonly regular user can not browse it09:29
wwallacepermission denied09:29
wwallacecd ing to it?09:29
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wwallaceTheGateKeeper: ?09:30
TheGateKeeperwwallace: use sudo then, I have done this before to repair a problem so I know it works09:31
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wwallacei did use sudo09:31
wwallaceto create the dir09:31
TheGateKeeperand to mount?09:32
wwallacewhats the pw for su?09:32
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fdovingwwallace: what did you mount? i recommend using pmount and mount as every user, if you can.09:32
wwallacei mounted root09:32
wwallacecause it only root can mount09:32
wwallacei use mount09:32
wwallacei mounted /dev/hda109:32
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wwallacewhats the pw for su?09:33
TheGateKeeperwwallace: try fdoving suggestion pmount09:33
fdovingwwallace: i recommend adding /dev/hda1 to /etc/pmount.allow and go to media:/ and mount hda1 as every user.09:33
wwallacedamn09:33
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wwallacei hate changing distros09:33
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wwallacethanks anyway09:33
wwallaceno time now09:34
TheGateKeeperfdoving: that better when you are using a livecd09:34
wwallacewhats su pw?09:34
wwallacewhats fdoving09:34
fdovingwwallace: use sudo, then it's your userpassword.09:34
wwallacenever heard of all that stuff b409:34
wwallace/etc/pmount?09:34
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fdovingwwallace: if you want a root shell, use 'sudo -i' and then your user password.09:34
fdovingwwallace: /etc/pmount.allow it's a file.09:35
wwallacei dont have a user password09:35
wwallaceis a live cd09:35
fdovingah, then it's blank, should be.09:35
wwallaceno09:35
fdovinguse 'sudo' not su.09:35
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SillyZif I could only get about a half a dozen winhosed applications to run under Kubuntu, Id wipe this 100gb drive of a dual boot and just go with Kubuntu in a heartbeat09:35
fdovingi have to go watch a voodoo-magic-crime-investigation program with my girlfriend.. have to run. bbl.09:36
HawkwindSillyZ: Dang man, long time no see!09:36
SillyZHawk!!!!!!09:36
SillyZHow goes it bro!09:36
HawkwindGood good, and you ?09:36
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SillyZGoes well, daughter got thru her surgery with flying colors09:37
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SillyZhows you and the fam?09:37
HawkwindSillyZ: Join me in #Kubuntu-OffTopic09:37
SillyZHawkwind: join #sillyz09:37
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dennisterhi guys!09:41
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dennisterabattoir: do u know ur chips?09:42
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dennisteranybody here?09:45
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Buffy^hello three09:45
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dennisterhi buffy09:46
dennisterwhat's going on?09:46
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dennisterwhat am i doing wrong here/09:48
Sannehi09:48
dennistersanne?09:48
Sannedennister: yo09:48
dennisteru can finally see my type?09:48
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dennisterwhere is everyone?09:48
Sannedennister: heh, I just joined... what's going on?09:48
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dennisterhaven't the foggiest; was here at this channel an hour ago and it was busy as ehll09:49
dennisterbut then again, this is only my 2nd time, and i haven't chatted on irc in years09:49
Sannedennister: sometimes there can be quiet periods... everybody pondering something important :)09:49
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dennisterlol...09:50
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dennisterand i'm trying to remember if i have a k7 cpu or a k809:50
timpinothere is an election going on in sweden right now and the liberals are going for the win! GO GO!09:50
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dennisterif i don't figure it out i'll probably wreck my entire install09:50
Sannetimpino: really?09:50
timpinodennister: open the hatch09:50
misieqhow do i mount samba shares using smbmount?09:50
timpinoyeah09:50
Trevor-KBTCan anyone help me plz ???    How can I make sure my OpenGl is working correctly ???09:50
dennisterthe hatch?09:51
shegmandennister: type less /proc/cpuinfo09:51
timpinoSanne: there will probably be a change of government09:51
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dennisterk, hold on09:51
timpinodennister: I meant pop the hood of your computer09:51
misieq!smb > misieq09:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:52
misieq!samba > misieq09:52
Sannetimpino: I hope it will work out the best for Sweden :)09:52
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dennistertimpino: typed in the code in shell and it didn't tell me anything I didn't already know09:52
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timpinodennister: try opening you computer and check the hardware09:53
dennisterI have an amd athlon 64 X2 380009:53
Sannedennister: me too09:53
dennisteris that a k7 or k8?09:53
Trevor-KBTCan anyone help me plz ???    How can I make sure my OpenGl is working correctly ???09:53
timpinoit's a amd6409:53
dennistergreat sanne, do u know if it's k7 or k8?09:54
timpinodon't think they count it as k7 or k8 anymore09:54
SkrotTrevor-KBT: glxinfo | grep direct09:54
dennisterahhhhhhhh09:54
dennisterk8 includes opteron 64...09:54
Sannedennister: I *hope* it's k8, the kernel I use is: 2.6.15-26-amd64-k809:54
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timpinoill check their homepage if you want09:54
Nickstewhy does the kubuntu gui feel a bit slower than windoze?09:55
dennister perfect!!!! thx so much sanne, that's what I needed to know: which kernel to use09:55
Sannedennister: heh :)09:55
Sannedennister: just keep your current kernel around so you could boot back into it in case you need to09:56
dennisterI'm trying to configure my xorg/xll for glx purposes, and I needed to know which linux-restricted-modules to use09:56
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dennisterhow do I keep both sanne?09:57
dennisterhow will the bootup know which to use?09:57
Sannedennister: when you install a new kernel, just don't remove the old one. It will get added to your boot menu where you can choose which one to boot into.09:58
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dennistersorry...noob here...never compiled a kernel before09:58
Sannedennister: don't compile, just install from apt/synaptic/adept/<your-package-manager>09:58
timpinodennister: it's not that hard, give it a go, if it fucks up just try again09:58
Trevor-KBTSkrot: thx man09:58
dennistergreat! that's what I was worried about...so grub will give me a new option once I install it from synaptic?09:58
Sannedennister: that's the plan :)09:59
Sannedennister: wait a sec, another tip...09:59
dennistertimpino: do you have any idea how often i've reinstalled ubuntu/kubuntu, got it going well, and then ruined it?09:59
dennisterusually with xorg, 2, lol09:59
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timpinodennister: Im, in the same seat10:00
Sannedennister: when you have booted into your new kernel, you can install the correct restricted modules with: dennister: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)10:00
timpinodennister: you don't wanna know about my slackware experiences10:00
dennisterk, here goes: bb in a sec10:00
dennisterhehehe...can't be worse than my 6 weeks of hell with mandriva10:00
dennisterbb10:00
shegmanslackware is cool. a lot of work done by hand but it gives experience10:01
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dennisterk, back...but this bloody broken msttforefonts is preventing me from installing anything properly...just get errors10:04
dennistercan't seem to get rid of the mstt thing, either, tried uninstalling, reinstalling...10:04
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Sannedennister: did you install msttcorefonts from synaptic?10:05
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dennisterno, unfortunately...was following a howto for myth...used apt-get10:05
Sannedennister: apt-get is fine also, but did you use official ubuntu repositories?10:06
dennisterhave no idea...apt-get doesn't tell u where it's getting the apps it's getting10:06
Sannedennister: you can look with: apt-cache policy msttcorefonts10:06
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Sannedennister: if you want, paste the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org so we can have a look10:07
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dennisterk. pasted the line into shell and i have lots of info I don't know what to do about...can't find the repository it used...will try the paste line10:09
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Sannedennister: while you're at it, paste also the install errors you were talking about.10:11
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shegmanerm. noob question because of translation problems. what do they mean with freenode "lilo"?10:12
dennistersorry...i don't think i got any results to paste...just directions on how to use the less command10:12
dennisteri'll try the pasting the error message10:12
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Sannedennister: please paste also the command you gave10:13
dennistercan't do the past of the terminal into past.org either...not from synaptic, anyway10:14
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Sannedennister: ok, let's do this slowly... open a konsole, enter the following command and execute it: apt-cache policy msttcorefonts10:16
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Sannedennister: tell me when you did that please10:17
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dennisterhold on...did the msttcorefonts thing about 30-60 minutes ago...error messages say something about a defoma scipt, so i did it...seems to be cleaning things up10:18
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promethevs_hi everyone10:18
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promethevs_recently ive updated amarok to 1.4.3 and now i can;t play flac files, anyone know how to fix it?10:19
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dennisterhahahaha!~!! problem fixed...linix-restricted...k8 installed with no errors!10:20
drnooneMy TVCard Remote isn't working. The rest of te functions works ok. I have a saa7134 based Card running on Dapper......anyone had the same problem?10:20
dennisterwahoo!10:20
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Sannedennister: ok, congrats then :)10:20
dennisterthx for ur support guys!10:21
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Sannedennister: well, you fixed it all by yourself after all :)10:21
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dennisternow the other nvidia drivers should go in without so many probs, including the one from the nvidia site with the run command10:21
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Nicksteis there anyway to make the icons, on the task bar, be fixed to a cetain desktop? E.g, wen I click on desktop 2, only the icons of the programs in desktop 2 will display on the taskbar?10:22
dennisteryeah, i did fix it, but lots of times i have to ask for help b4 i can finally figure it out for myself...lol10:22
Sannedennister: I recommend installing the drivers from the ubuntu repositories10:22
dennisteryes, I do try to do that most of the time10:22
dennisterbut obviusly things like w32codecs can't be installed that way10:23
tackubuntu en espaol?10:23
Sannedennister: I mean the nvidia drivers, from the repositories10:23
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dennisternot the one from the nvidia site with the run extension?10:23
Sannedennister: hold on a sec10:24
dennisterI've got a 7800 series card here10:24
Sannedennister: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:24
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Sannedennister: better use ubuntu packages if you can10:24
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dennisteryes, I've been reading that, but it does refer us to the nvidia site with the run download10:24
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Sannedennister: no10:25
promethevs_my xine engine doesn't play flac files, anyone hav this problem?10:26
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dennisterno?10:26
Sannedennister: it says to install the packahes nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules for your kernel, both packages are in the ubuntu repositories. The nvidia kernel module is precompiled for us, so we won't have to use the installed from the nvidia site.10:27
dennisterI just successfully re-installed the nvidia-glx file from xynaptic, and it says to run a command afterwards to configure it, but i got another error in shell10:28
Sannedennister: please paste any errors to paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:28
dennisterthat's good to know sanne, but here's the error when i ran the command xyanptic told me to:10:28
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dennisterthe command that xyanptic told me to do was: nvidia-glx-config enable10:29
dennisterI did, and here's what I got10:29
Sannedennister: please paste any errors to paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:30
dennisterError: your X configuration has been altered.10:30
dennisterThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this10:30
dennisternot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following10:30
dennistercommand:10:30
dennistermd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum10:30
dennisterotherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section10:30
dennisterfrom nv to nvidia.10:30
dennistersorry10:30
Sannedennister: please don't paste in here10:30
dennisterk...won't do it again10:30
dennistersorry10:30
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klerfaytNickste: you probably mean this http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5871/pilt1ha7.png10:32
Sannedennister: this just means that your xorg config file has been altered, maybe by another script, or by you manually. Just do what it tells you:  md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum10:32
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dennisterlol...k10:32
klerfaytdennister: or you can run  sudo nvidia-xconfig10:33
dennisterall right: it ended up giving me a line with the hash number and the file name10:33
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dennisterand i did the nvidia-xconfig to make sure...it told me the new xorg.conf was written10:35
dennisterwhew!10:35
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Sannedennister: you just have updated the checksum of the xorg config file, so that you can now proceed. Make a backup first, just to be sure, of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:35
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Sannedennister: ok, too late:)10:35
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Sannedennister: I told you where it put the backup file, I hope. Take note of that, in case it doesn't work.10:36
Sannedennister: *it* told you10:36
intelikeyi'm getting an xfce error, 'cant look up host name for blah, this will prevent xfce from functioning correctly'   ?10:36
intelikeymaybe that should be in #xubuntu ???10:37
dennisteryes, i just took a look at the new xorg.conf file, and it is the way it should be. I did actually know where it was, as I'd already backed up the orginal file by making a copy of it10:37
Sanneintelikey: maybe, or even in #ubuntu. I suspect this error is not desktop specific...10:37
dennisterlearned the hard way to ALWAYS make a backup of a *.conf file before changing it10:37
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Sannedennister: ah, good! Well, then you should be good to go, and hopefully know how to revert to the old config if your xserver doesn't start.10:38
intelikeySanne maybe.  but i don't /j ubuntu any more.10:38
dennisterand yes, sanne, *it* did tell me, but gave me two options10:38
Sanneintelikey: not? How come?10:38
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dennisteryep, let's hope I'm good to go...I'm jsut gonna check out a coupla things and then try to reboot, which of course will be the acid test10:39
Sannedennister: so, then, be brave and restart your x server, and hopefully see you in a few seconds :)10:39
intelikeyi'm sensitive that way.   ban me for no reason and i take it personally.10:39
dennisterbrave???!?!?! i'm scared sh*tless10:39
dennistercya soon, and Thanks!!!10:40
Sannedennister: you *did* boot into your new kernel before installing nvidia, did you?10:40
zorglu_q. is there a set of font i could add to kubuntu ? i failed to find one font i could look at :) something like a text tty would be goo d:)10:40
dennisternnnnoooooooooooo10:40
Sannedennister: what?!?10:40
intelikeyzorglu_ clean10:40
dennisterlol, I didn't exit from this irc, did I?10:40
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zorglu_intelikey: ?10:41
intelikeyzorglu_ font name  clean10:41
freewillfirst time i installedd my nv drivers was on mandrake 9.2 and i needed to compile kernel headers with gcc in init 3 mode that was user-friendly my ass10:41
intelikeyzorglu_ looks almost like console10:41
Sannedennister: you need to make sure that you installed the restricted mosules package for the kernel you plan to use with nvidia and you plan to boot into.10:41
klerfaytzorglu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig10:42
zorglu_intelikey: cool :) i dont find it while searching in kde fonte selector, which packet should i get ?10:42
zorglu_package10:42
dennisterso to make up for my non-booting after I installed the linux restricted...10:42
Sanneintelikey: well, that doesn't sound nice with this banning... but maybe somebody was just overreacting? It can be pretty stressful there at times.10:43
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dennisterI should probably save the new xorg.conf file with a different extension, rename the original xorg.conf file, then boot into the new k8 kernel, and install the nvdida?10:43
Sannedennister: exactly! :)10:43
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zorglu_klerfayt: what is it supposed to do ? i launched it and it ask many things i dont get :)10:43
intelikeyzorglu_ hmmm  it used to be default in the 100dpi set    i don't know.    apt-cache search font10:43
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zorglu_intelikey: ok will look10:44
dennisterk, gotcha...thank the lord for backups...and thx again for catching me b4 a disaster10:44
Sannedennister: you're welcome, and good luck10:44
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klerfaytzorglu_: maybe you don't like default antialiasing of fonts in kubuntu...10:44
dennisterhopefully i'll bback soon with a report. If i'm not back...u know i'm in trouble :-)10:45
klerfaytzorglu_: this command lets you change font antialiasing stuff10:45
zorglu_klerfayt: ah ok will try thanks10:45
freewilli have got opengl enabled with only installing nvidia-glx and editing xorg.conf nv-->nvidia do i realy need to restricted kernel modules?10:45
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Sannefreeflying: I guess that's the important package with the actual kernel module, so, yes ;)10:46
Sannefreeflying: chances are they were already installed10:46
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zorglu_klerfayt: much better indeed :)10:47
freewillok so that might be the reson boson is crashing?10:47
Sannefreeflying: sorry, meant freewill10:47
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Sannefreewill: dunno, what's boson?10:48
freewilla stratigy game10:48
Sannefreewill: needing opengl?10:48
freewillwritten in opgl and for kde10:48
Sanneah10:48
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Sannefreewill: try to start the game from a konsole window and look at the errors it gives you, might help find the problem10:49
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freewillw8 a sec..10:49
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wayne__amap10:49
Sannefreewill: looks nice, this boson10:50
wayne__amap10:50
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RugCan kopete import account settings from gaim?10:52
freewillcan't find the post where i put the info of the error10:53
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freewillor i thing i got it10:53
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freewillhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25856710:54
Sannefreewill: looking10:54
Homerwhen is edgy eft comming out?10:54
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freewilli use this how-to https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html they say here you only need nvidia-glx10:55
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Arepie"dapper" or "knot 3" is betteR?10:57
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wayne__anyone know why i can apt-get Kismet but i cant see it in my KDE menu?10:58
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Sannefreewill: I guess you have the modules, otherwise x wouldn't have started. But let's check to be sure. Please paste (here) the output of: uname -a10:59
lupine_85dapper, if you need to ask :)10:59
allyourcrwebswayne__: guess it doesn't have a menu entry via default10:59
wayne__can i make one?10:59
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allyourcrwebssure11:00
klerfaytspeaking of nvidia-glx - anyone know why nvidia-settings don't load my settings at login like they do it in suse e.g.11:00
allyourcrwebswayne__: right click on the K, and hit menu editor11:00
Homer!xgl11:01
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:01
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wayne__how do i whipsrer back to people?11:01
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xithilinxhey does anyone here know how to install ati drivers in kubuntu11:02
klerfaytwayne__: sometimes you have to logout and login to update kmenu11:02
klerfaytwayne__: maybe there is command to do it11:02
freewillhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI11:02
Sannefreewill: got my last message?11:03
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klerfaytfreewill: can you run glxgears? (in konsole)11:04
freewillyes11:04
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Sannefreewill: can you do what I asked, please?11:04
host-onehello:)11:04
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freewillyes for glxgears in console11:04
sybuxHi, I'm looking for wine guru ! are they online tonight ?11:05
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Sannefreewill: I said: I guess you have the modules, otherwise x wouldn't have started. But let's check to be sure. Please paste (here) the output of: uname -a11:05
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host-onewhy in firefox at google video I can't hear audio?11:05
kalagarazWhat can I use to make a movie of my desktop?11:05
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freewillyes i have notice that just now it must have installed automaticly11:05
allyourcrwebsglxgears will run without nvidia-glx,  just very slowly11:06
Sannefreewill: so you also confirmed that you have linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?11:06
klerfaythost-one: that's because flash uses oss audio11:06
Sannefreewill: *already*, not also11:06
intelikeyallyourcrwebs yeah i get about 60fps11:06
freewillSanne: i have linux-restricted-modules-i38611:06
klerfaythost-one: and oss plays only then other applications aren't using audiocard11:06
Sannefreewill:  and is this the ecaxt version you need for your running kernel?11:07
klerfaythost-one: other solution is to configure alsa-oss11:07
freewillSanne i guess so (i didn't install it) but i don't have x64 if ur asking that.11:08
intelikeydoes there need to be an empty file /etc/host.{allow,deny}  ?11:08
Sannefreewill: *sigh* that's why I bade you to give me the output of 'uname -a', so that I can help you make sure. So I suggest you just do it. Please?11:09
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karim_yo ppl11:09
karim_any Egyptian folks in here11:09
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karim_?11:09
freewillsry11:09
SillyZuname -a is not going to reveal any passwords or such, its just going to provide version information about what your running in linux, ie: linux kernel11:09
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karim_yo Cairo is in fa hauuuuse11:10
freewillLinux freewill-desktop 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:10
SillyZSanne: thought id try and help a bit11:10
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intelikeyi've lost my menu   xfce wont display a menu11:10
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Sannefreewill: ok, thanks. Now please run the command and paste the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)11:10
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roffman20wenas11:11
roffman20como estan11:11
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SanneSillyZ: let me just try this one, ok? ;)11:11
karim_can't run .asf ,mpeg .mpg11:11
SillyZSanne: np11:11
dennisteri'm baaaaaaaaaaaackkkkkkkkkk :-)11:11
roffman20nadie habla espaol11:11
karim_on caffeine11:11
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dennisterworked beautifully, first with just the new kernel, and then with the kernel + new xorg.conf file11:12
tsdgeos!es11:12
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:12
dennisteri can't thank u enough, sanne11:12
roffman20gracias11:12
SanneSillyZ: I'm trying to help freewill find out if the linux-restricted-modules matches the installed kernel.11:12
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Sannedennister: I take that as a "wohoo, it worked", yes? :)11:13
dennisteryes, yes, yes11:13
Sannedennister: wohoo!11:13
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freewillhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2379011:13
Sannefreewill: looking11:14
dennisternow the next challenge is to get mysql working...but later; I need a nap and then make a phone call for work11:14
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intelikeytwm has no menu    well it has one but there is no apps in it.  only twm commands   ?11:14
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dennisternot even a job, cause i don't get paid, but i'm back at my old recruiter's schedule of recruting pps on a sunday afternoon11:14
drei just started with kubuntu one week ago,but i think its very dapper...:)11:15
dennisterhopefully I'll run into u again sanne11:15
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kalagarazWhat can I use to record a video of my desktop?11:15
dennisterdre: I'm shocked! what a pun!11:15
intelikeyhmmm, i guess i've borked it well11:15
Sannefreewill: so, we see the the restricted modules version matches your kernel's version exactly: 2.6.15-23-386. That tells us that the installation of your nvidia drivers seems to be correct. next we take a look again at the error message from boson.11:15
drea pun?....11:16
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freewillshould i paste it in again the same way?11:16
dennisterlol...yes, a play upon words: ubuntu....dapper....11:16
Sannedennister: I'm pretty often on freenode, except time stretches where my workload is too high. Looking forward to meet you again :)11:16
drea ok....yep thats what i mean11:17
dennisterlater pps :-)11:17
Sannefreewill: I think I have the tab still open, sec11:17
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Sannefreewill: yup11:17
Sannefreewill: the first line of interest is: libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:18
Sannefreewill: boson want a library but can find it. Now we try to find out why.11:18
freewillSanne: how do we do that?11:20
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Sannefreewill: it looks for a file /usr/lib/libGL.so, which I have on my system. Let's see what your system tells you, type: ls -la /usr/lib/libGL.so11:21
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freewilllrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2006-09-16 19:41 /usr/lib/libGL.so -> libGL.so.111:22
Sannefreewill: hm, if you have it, boson should find it. What does this return:  ls -la /usr/lib/libGL.so.111:24
kalagarazWhat can I use to record a video of my desktop?11:24
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freewilllrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2006-09-16 03:27 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.0.876211:25
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Sannefreewill: that's the same what I have.11:26
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Sannefreewill: onelast time, please paste the output of the following command to the pastebin: ls -l /usr/lib/libGL*11:27
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kalagarazI need something to record my desktop :(11:28
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Sannekalagaraz: I think we all know this by now :)11:29
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kalagarazyeah well I was disconnected, and didn't see an answer11:29
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Sannekalagaraz: it seems there was no reply11:30
freewillSanne http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2379211:30
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kalagarazhow can no one know of a tool to record...11:30
Hawkwindkalagaraz: Try wink11:31
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surimiI have compile and install http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3905211:31
surimicause it doesn't exist un deb11:32
Sannefreewill: I can't dcc because of my router. You can attach a picture on the pastebin also, at the bottom :)11:32
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surimiin Ubuntu/gnome there is no Font manager like that11:32
freewillk11:32
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surimibut now I have this  http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?21511:32
bipolarIn edgy, will there be an applet to control ejecting pcmcia/cardbus cards?11:33
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Sannefreewill: this is what I have, let's compare: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2379311:33
SillyZwhats a good application to test a webcam with under kubuntu?11:34
freewillcan i edit the pate or must i make a new one in order to post a pic?11:34
Sannefreewill: dunno11:34
kalagarazhow do I run an installer.sh file?11:35
Hawkwindkalagaraz: sh file.sh11:35
ketsugi|IMF./installer.sh11:35
octanwhats the diff between openssh and ssh ?11:35
freewillSanne i got this extra i think /usr/lib/libGL.la11:35
wayne__anyone know of a good readme file on how to setup and run kismet?11:35
kalagarazahh wink doesn't work for amd64 :(11:35
wayne__im having probems11:35
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octankalagaraz yes it does :P just compile it for a 64 arch :P11:36
freewillSanne btw do you know if boson works? i mean maybe the thing is broken or something?11:36
kalagarazI dunno how to compile...11:36
Sannefreewill: *I* got this extra, you don't seem to have it.11:36
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kalagarazthe installer.sh file says x86 only11:36
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freewillSanne sorry yeah u got it11:37
Sannefreewill: I don't know if boson works. My next check would be if you can run other opengl apps :)11:37
Sannefreewill: but this libGL.la worries me. Let me check where it came from and if you should have it.11:37
freewillSanne i can run supertux;nexuiz11:37
Sannefreewill: ah11:37
freewillSanne supertux is opengl mode11:38
kalagarazhow do I comple wink for 64?11:38
Sannefreewill: so have you tried boson again recently? Same error?11:38
octanbut an extra option to make command11:38
octanman make11:38
freewillSanne yes11:38
kalagarazI don't see make anywhere...11:38
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freewillSanne i think its the game....11:39
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Hawkwindkalagaraz: It's a command you type11:39
sybuxI've got a liitle question : I'm running on a pentium D proc. Shall I need to recompil my kernel for the 2nd proc be used ?11:39
Sannefreewill: I mean, it tells us nonsense, it says it wants /use/lib/libGL.so, and you have this file. It must be blind ;)11:39
kalagarazthere is no source for wink though. It's just binaries11:39
Hawkwindsybux: No, use the linux-686 kernel which is for SMP kernels11:39
freewillSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2379611:39
Hawkwinds/kernels/processors11:39
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freewillSanne: i guess its blind11:40
MidMarkhi11:40
Sannefreewill: I also come to think it might be boson that's at fault.11:40
Hawkwindkalagaraz: You untar the package, cd to the directory it makes, then read the README or INSTALL files11:40
MidMarksomeone knows where to find ubuntu packages for mandvd 2.2?11:40
sybuxHawkwind: once again, you save my life !11:40
klerfaytwhat is the package name of i686kernel and do I have to just reboot after installing it?11:40
Hawkwindklerfayt: linux-68611:40
octankalagaraz then you need to jail it to 32bit11:40
Sannefreewill: oh, that's another error11:40
octankalagaraz, 1 sec11:41
Hawkwind!info mandvd11:41
ubotuPackage mandvd does not exist in any distro I know11:41
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freewillSanne: thats in the boson-info app11:41
octankalagaraz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457511:41
kalagarazit says ""This installer only has x86 binaries. Sorry.""11:41
octandude look at link i gave you :P11:41
klerfaytHawkwind: I see; and reboot will take to my new kernel; no configuration required?11:42
MidMark!why not?11:42
Sannefreewill: I don't have a folder "modules" in /usr/X11R6/lib11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about why not? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
octanjust change hoary to dapper11:42
kalagaraznone of that stuff in that link makes any sense to me11:42
Sannefreewill: so I guess boson would also error on me, and this looks suspiciously like a bug.11:42
octankalagaraz it makes perfectly sence :P11:43
kalagarazwell I've never used linux before11:43
MidMarknone in the world uses mandvd?11:43
freewillSanne: theres another tab that dispays errors11:43
octankalagaraz follow it step by step11:43
Sannefreewill: this file it wants is here: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o11:43
kalagarazWhat's it do?11:43
freewillSanne: lest me just upload it11:43
Hawkwindklerfayt: It should, yes11:44
Sannefreewill: I suspect by now that the maitainer didn't tell boson to look in the correct location for this file.11:44
Sannefreewill: ok11:44
kalagarazerror on step one11:44
kalagarazE: Couldn't find package dchroot11:44
freewillSanne: k, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2379911:44
Hawkwindkalagaraz: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:44
freewillSanne: thats about all the info i can get (the console and those 2 tabs)11:45
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kalagarazstill get E: Couldn't find package dchroot11:46
freewillSanne: will you please try and file a bug report? i don't know how :P11:46
Sannefreewill: that's an even better error message. I think i'm at the end of the line here, you may try to post those error screenshots at the forums, and if that doesn't lead to a solution, you might consider filing a bug at launchpad for boson.11:46
Sannefreewill: ha!11:46
Hawkwindkalagaraz: Then install it11:47
kalagarazhow?11:47
Hawkwindkalagaraz: Same way you install everything else, sudo apt-get install <package-name>11:47
kalagarazthats what I'm trying to do11:47
kalagarazsudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap11:47
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Sannefreewill: you really should do it, because 1. I don't have it installed, 2. I also didn't do a bug report yet, and 3. don't be lazy! ;)11:48
Hawkwind!info dchroot11:48
ubotudchroot: Execute commands under different root filesystems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 88 kB11:48
Hawkwindkalagaraz: You need to set up all of your repos correctly first11:48
Hawkwind!repos > kalagaraz11:48
freewillSanne k lol11:48
freewillSanne so u say launchpad11:48
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Sannefreewill: yeah, I can try to find the bug page, sec.11:49
Sannefreewill: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs11:49
kalagarazI've did that already Hawkwind11:50
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Sannefreewill: there's link "report a bug", and maybe there's help on that on the wiki also?11:50
freewillSanne k11:50
Hawkwindkalagaraz: dchroot is in universe so you need to make sure you have universe as one of your repos11:50
Sannefreewill: of yourse, first try to search for other bugs on boson, maybe it's already reported.11:50
kalagarazI have multiverse as that guide says11:50
Hawkwindkalagaraz: Universe11:51
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Hawkwindkalagaraz: Big difference from multiverse11:51
kalagarazit says11:51
kalagaraznce that's done you will want to add Multiverse to them. Double click the universe text so that you get an edit box and beside universe type multiverse and hit Enter and do the same for the other line as well.11:51
kalagarazin that guide11:51
kalagarazthat you send me11:51
Hawkwind!universe11:51
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:51
HawkwindRead that URL there.  It tells you about multiverse and universe11:51
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kalagarazYes I followed that guide exactly yesterday11:52
kalagarazit sets up mutliverse11:52
Hawkwindkalagaraz: Open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and add universe to each line that has multiverse11:52
HawkwindThis is where you will be able to enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. The first step on this page is to locate this line and the line below it. Once you have found these two line right click and select enable for both the deb and deb-src lines.11:53
Sannefreewill: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs11:53
Hawkwindkalagaraz: ^^^^^^ that's from the URL11:53
kalagarazoh I was suppose to add11:53
kalagaraznot change11:53
Hawkwindkalagaraz: That page does both actually :)11:53
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Sannefreewill: you *did* install boson from the ubuntu repos, didn't you?11:54
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kalagarazok it works now11:55
kalagarazsorry :(11:55
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Hawkwindkalagaraz: No worries :)11:55
rudy__hola?11:55
freewillSanne yes the deb files from ubuntu11:55
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freewillSanne (ubuntu's archive)11:56
Sannefreewill: ok, just to be sure it's actually a bug in an ubuntu package :)11:56
kalagarazI installs istanbul from the repo now. Where is it installed to?11:57
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kalagaraznm11:57
kalagarazgot it11:57
freewillSanne what should i put in further information?11:59
Nookie^how do i restart kicker??12:00
Sannefreewill: er... I'm sorry, I really didn't do this myself... can anybody please help freewill with abug report? <waves to channel>12:00
Hawkwindkillall kicker && kicker12:00
Nookie^thanx12:01
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klerfaythmm I rebooted and still using i386 kernel instead of i68612:04
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DaSkreechWhat's kabc?12:09

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