[12:08] ok, i have found the "ubuntu-cdimage" project in launchpad but i can't download the sources there. vanilla debian-cd looks like it won't support ubuntu without giving me headaches. does anyone know where i could get the ubuntu specific tool? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] oh, i found it. nvm :) === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@68-117-221-30.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-236-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ElPenguin [n=james@82.31.2.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@88-107-5-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable106.200-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable106.200-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GEMENII [i=gemenii@85.204.208.85] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GEMENII [i=gemenii@85.204.208.85] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong|GRR [n=ubuntu@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] uhh, knot3 amd64 ubiquity doesn't work [01:08] poke screensaver throws a python exception [01:08] is that a known issue? === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ElPenguin [n=james@82.31.2.21] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:28] uh, ouch [01:28] mdadm expects to be able to stop raid arrays during upgrade [01:28] fabbione: ping (unlikely -> mdadm expects to be able to stop raid arrays during upgrade) === jdub clags upgrade spew into bug [01:29] jdub: you might need to try /summoning/ fabbione..... === jdong hands stick, candles, and salt to jdub === TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] jdub, that's know, I saw a comment about that last night. [01:34] *known [01:34] #60623 [01:34] Yes, that one. === bronson [n=bronson@c-71-198-75-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth wonders why he is getting emails from June from ubuntu-devel [01:49] <_ion> amaranth: I think a moderator found some false positives from a spam folder, and passed them to the list. [01:50] so far they look like duplicates [01:50] although perhaps people sent their message again when it didn't show up the first time [01:51] Amaranth, Burgandavia cleaned out the spam filter yesterday. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] Heya folks === theCore [n=alex@modemcable106.200-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D82A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-217-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dmk_uk [n=dmk@host81-156-244-207.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dmk_uk [n=dmk@host81-156-244-207.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-244-207.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === evand [n=evan_d@72.20.218.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dmk [n=dmk_uk@host81-156-244-207.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A60502.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shenki_ [n=shenki@ppp98-246.lns4.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-166-172-239.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:03] is there something special I've got to do to upload to dapper-proposed-updates? [04:04] isnt there something in the wiki? [04:15] BenC: hehe, paranoia setting in? [04:16] jdong: I've uploaded it twice and gotten no reply from the archive about it [04:16] zul_: I checked, didn't see anything [04:16] hmm :-/ [04:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [04:18] zul_: that's for dapper proper [04:19] I don't see anything in there about proposed-updates [04:19] BenC: under 2. Prepare [04:19] "The upload target must be release-proposed" [04:19] ah [04:22] jdong, zul: thanks === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=alinux@d83-176-93-211.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] $ sudo dmidecode | grep Speed Max Speed: 1800 MHz Current Speed: 1200 MHz === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] boh [04:46] $ sudo dmidecode | grep Speed [04:46] Max Speed: 1800 MHz [04:46] Current Speed: 1200 MHz [04:46] $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies [04:46] 1200000 800000 [04:46] === jdub ponders... bios is dumb? [04:47] must be [04:47] weird :) [04:48] maybe the bios *wants* me to overclock it! [04:49] jdub: Do it. ;) === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:49] jdub: given my bios doesn't even know what my cpu is and I have seen some very odd bios breakage out there, I would not be surprised [04:51] Burgundavia, hello, I would like to ask you if you are ubuntu mailing lists manager ? I would like to set-up one for Georgian translators. [04:51] AlinuxOS: no, i am not [04:51] I merely have the (mis)fortune to moderate a few [04:51] Burgundavia, thanks. [04:53] jdub: the dmi tables are probably static and contain whatever the PFY typoed on the day of release. === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:06] err upgrading mdadm tries to stop the raid arrays.. thats not going to work on most systems [05:06] Lathiat: lp#60623 [05:06] heh [05:06] righto [05:07] sheesh does kubuntu edgy boot quick, i assume from the upstart stuff === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:12] Lathiat: profiling a bootup will get you another few seconds back... edgy's readahead-list is way off [05:13] how do you do that? === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:16] Lathiat: apparantly by adding profile to the kernel commandline in grub [05:17] hrm ok i'll give that a shot === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:23] yeh that made a big diff === quail [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Chipzz [i=chipzz@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be] has joined #Ubuntu-Devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TerminX [n=terminx@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jorge_ [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jorge_ is now known as whiprush [06:09] jdub, ping === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508DA21D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glick [n=myob@69-169-117-51.lmdaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:20] hello [06:20] excuse me im reading the ubuntu packaging guide [06:20] and i have a question about this pbuilder application [06:20] glick: that is a question for #ubuntu-motu [06:20] ok === _TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-197-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === [jb] [n=juliano@c-71-204-5-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA21D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-236-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-197-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === adamant1988 [n=adam@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:13] hello all.. [08:14] uhm.. I guess if you're the developers I need to talk to.. the naim package is BAD [08:14] I went to install it and it decided that I need to remove 93 packages in order to install =\ [08:14] Works for me, adamant1988. [08:15] What are some of the packages it wants to remove? === CameronBergh [n=cameron@c-24-22-122-59.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:15] (this is better addressed, as maintenance question, in -motu) [08:15] thats most of the time the result of a shady sources.list file [08:16] Fujitsu: a lot of KDE packages.. I have the whole list [08:16] I'll paste bin it [08:16] OK, please move to -motu. [08:17] e.g. #ubuntu-motu === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:31] jdub: yes i know. there is a bug filed already. [08:31] jdub: it's monday stuff tho.. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:32] Burgundavia; poke === TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:33] desrt: poke back [08:37] Burgundavia; your knot3 page says "has not been released yet" [08:37] (it has) [08:39] it shouldn't, I thought I removed that === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:40] Burgundavia, it's still there... And Knot 3 isn't listed on /testing. === paracetamolo [n=paraceta@81-174-12-172.f5.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:41] I will fix === thansen|laptop_ [n=thansen@160.7.244.137] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:42] gaim-devs: ping :) [08:43] thansen|laptop_: are you looking for the people who upload gaim? [08:43] whoever packages it [08:43] thansen|laptop_: that would be seb128 [08:44] Burgundavia: do you know if the beta3 is what for sure will be used in edgy? [08:44] thansen|laptop_: are you an upstream gaim dev? [08:45] no, but I have a patch for the groupwise protocol...which currently doesn't work [08:46] thansen|laptop_: file a bug, mention you have a patch [08:46] I talked to the novell guy who maintains it and he said he would upstream it sometime in the next couple weeks, but I want to make sure it gets into edgy [08:47] where are bugs filed for ubuntu? sorry, kinda new to the ubuntu community [08:47] edgy is not due for a while, and given we have a beta, I would expect us to get the final [08:48] wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs [08:48] it's been beta now for a year :) [08:49] maybe it's inclusion in edgy will prod them along a bit though ;) [08:51] thansen|laptop_: I wish it would [08:51] given it has been in beta for more than 6 months === Burgundavia waiting for telepathy to take the need for gaim away [08:51] link? [08:52] http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/ [08:54] malone is telling me to use the official gaim bug tracker [08:57] right, you need gaim the ubuntu package, not the upstream product [08:57] welcome to LP :( [08:58] where can I find that? [08:59] under the ubuntu product, search for gaikm === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@cpe-72-224-116-131.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:02] Hobbsee: hey.. yes i "own" ubuntulog somehow [09:02] hey fabbione [09:03] fabbione: right, can we get ubuntulog into #ubuntu+1 too please, and log that? [09:03] Hobbsee: can you please file a bug in LP and make sure you assign it to me? [09:03] fabbione: under what? ubuntulog or something? [09:03] it's kind of sunday :) [09:03] ubuntu [09:03] general [09:04] right [09:04] fabbione: yes, and? :P [09:05] and i am spending time with my wife and my kid :) no hacking today [09:05] fabbione: yeah, fair enough :) === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:06] Hrm, can you no longer mark a bug as having two tasks one for breezy and one for dapper? [09:07] Lathiat: i thought you could. say the bug affects another distro, and do it that way [09:07] yeh but then it says 'already reported' [09:07] oh darn [09:07] i thought you could [09:07] that's how i used to do it [09:07] Lathiat: or the request a backport button? [09:08] make sure that doestn subscribe the backporters team by accident though [09:09] hrm [09:09] that looks like it would do what we want but [09:09] it does seem to be specifically for 'backports' [09:10] Lathiat: There's a "Also affects: distrobution" link [09:11] Lathiat: The last part of the URL is +distrotask [09:11] yeh that doesnt work [09:11] you say Ubuntu, lynx [09:11] and it says its already reported [09:11] StevenK: that's what i said [09:11] doesnt seem to include a version component === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SubMate [n=samuel@219-89-18-72.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:14] ok the backport fix thign seems to do the right thing [09:14] just slightly confusing terminology === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === paracetamolo [n=paraceta@81-174-12-172.f5.ngi.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54B29D8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:11] is it just my firefox that's broken in edgy at the moment? [10:12] hey is the debian maintainers guide still applicable to ubuntu? === daq4th [n=darkness@netstation-005.cafe.zSeries.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:14] glick: yes, mostly [10:17] fabbione: :-) === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] hello [10:22] o_cee: the language packs are outdated; 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8 firefox' should be a workaround [10:22] it's rather crashy though [10:22] Kamion: ah okay, thanks! [10:22] haven't tried with a clean profile yet to see if that works better === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@unaffiliated/harti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB [n=tomb@host217-44-1-35.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] pitti: hi [10:37] hi zyga [10:37] pitti: there is a problem with langpack that includes polish firefox addon [10:38] pitti: if you can confirm that LANG=pl_PL.UTF-8 firefox breaks things :) [10:38] (some parse error in chrome.xul) [10:38] zyga: bug 60631 [10:38] Malone bug 60631 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all "[edgy] Crash opening firefox" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60631 [10:38] oh :) [10:38] zyga: fallout from a Friday afternoon firefox upload :/ === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:39] zyga: I don't have much time right now, I'll fix this tomorrow morning [10:39] right, have a nice weekend :) [10:55] Why has ubuntu-devel just thrown 60 old mails at me? [10:56] mjg59, Burgundavia cleaned the spam filter yesterday. [10:57] mjg59: shouldn't have been 60, but i passed a bunch through, some because of mailmans shite interface === cassidy [n=cassidy@138.82-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:02] Burgundavia: apt-get install listadmin [11:02] jdub: listadmin? [11:02] apt-cache show listadmin [11:02] oh, love [11:02] thanks === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-224-156.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _ion just realized the edgy kernel isn't using libata-pata anymore. [11:10] It was never supposed to be [11:10] <_ion> So there were problems? 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[02:57] because I installed Xubuntu, and now I get an Ubuntu bootsplash for startup and a Xubuntu bootsplash for shutdown [02:58] GyrosGeier: The boot splash is run from the initramfs, and the shutdown is from userspace [02:58] hi everyone [02:59] GyrosGeier: Regenerate your initramfs and see if that fixes it? [02:59] GyrosGeier: also check your alternatives settings [02:59] excellent [03:00] also, the bootsplash goes away after unpacking the restricted drivers [03:00] and the system falls back to text mode [03:01] is this maybe related to having 64MiB of RAM only? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] and third, is there any bug reporting tool? reportbug finds out "this is not Debian, so I need to send to ubuntu-devel", but fails as I don [03:03] and third, is there any bug reporting tool? reportbug finds out "this is not Debian, so I need to send to ubuntu-devel", but fails as I don't have an MTA on this network [03:03] !bug [03:03] GyrosGeier: [23:03] If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com [03:04] Howdy folks [03:04] hey bddebian [03:04] Hi Hobbsee [03:04] so nothing "assisted" that asks you whether you want to include debconf settings? [03:05] GyrosGeier: not yet, no. We're still waiting for the XMLRPC interface for malone. [03:05] once we have that, reportbug or similar will be updated to just file bugs using that. [03:06] ah [03:06] hey GyrosGeier ! [03:06] because I have an X server autodetection glitch [03:06] so I have a lot of debconf info [03:06] hi fabbione [03:07] GyrosGeier: best thing is to open a bug above and add all the info you have. [03:07] okay [03:07] GyrosGeier: there should also be something on the wiki [03:07] hol don [03:07] I will probably be LARTed for installing onto a P166MMX anyway, but... [03:07] ahha nah [03:08] GyrosGeier: i still have your ex a1200 running here :) [03:08] cool === StevenK waits for other Debian guys to come across to the Dark Side [03:08] so given this is #ubuntu-devel, will there be an Ubuntu release for m68k? :-) [03:08] Bwahaha [03:08] GyrosGeier: ehhehe [03:08] <_ion> Amiga, yay. [03:08] GyrosGeier: i am kind of thinking about it.. but i don't think i have enough time for it [03:08] StevenK, well, if you've read my blog entry, you know my opinion === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:09] StevenK, Ubuntu is cool for the desktop and maybe servers (never tried it there), but its focus is too narrow for it to be interesting to me [03:09] no.. the page on the wiki is gone [03:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration [03:10] there [03:10] I happily hand out CDs to users, but my embedded devices run Debian. [03:10] fabbione, thanks [03:10] GyrosGeier: i don't know how update it is [03:10] but it should help [03:10] at least to add all the info required [03:10] well, the box in question has all the hardware evil you can find [03:11] nVidia Riva128 OEM card with obscure Manufacturer ID [03:11] plus a Voodoo1 [03:11] GyrosGeier: i sort of expected that from you :) === fabbione still can't take away the paintaing from the a1200 :P [03:11] the X server autoconfig creates a config file that tells it to use the "apm" driver on the voodoo [03:12] that's a discover-data bug [03:12] is that the only glitch? [03:12] fabbione, I thought you did away with the casing and glued to mainboard to the outside of some server box? [03:12] fabbione, mostly [03:13] GyrosGeier: no, i glued the entire a1200 to a mini-desktop. [03:13] fabbione, the screen is corrupted after DPMS [03:13] GyrosGeier: in that case just open a bug on discover-data with the pci id, description of the board and what X driver it should be used [03:13] GyrosGeier: that's enough to fix it [03:14] fabbione, okay, can do that [03:14] yup thanks === fabbione goes back to watch a movie [03:14] fabbione, although there is also a driver for rendering to two triangles that fill the entire screen on Voodoo1 [03:15] so technically, you could use both cards. :-) [03:15] hmmm [03:15] yeah but we don't support dual-head or dual-gfx configs out of the box yet [03:15] it's difficult to detect which one is primary [03:15] fabbione, yep, that may be the problem [03:15] yes that might be one of the 2 [03:15] fabbione, only the Riva claims to be a graphics card [03:15] the driver should have been the right one, no matter [03:16] it basically depends on the order in which discover finds them on the bus [03:16] the first one wins [03:16] fabbione, the Voodoo just says "custom" in its PCI data [03:16] just add that's a Voodoo1 based card and a manufacturer if you have it [03:16] fabbione, well, the IDs are 0:9:0 for the Riva, and 0:b:0 for the Voodoo, and the Voodoo's ID ends up in the config file [03:17] that's plenty of info for a text description that nobody really will ever read [03:17] yeah probably [03:17] anyway.. movie time :) [03:18] \o/ movie === kagou [n=kagou@84.5.173.178] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA821.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@unaffiliated/harti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F4B16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-218-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54B29D8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:33] hmm [03:34] is it a good idea to dist-upgrade from a Debian system, or should I install from scratch? [03:34] GyrosGeier, uhm, ubuntu? scratch :) [03:35] because the CD-ROM drive in this box is dog slow and occasionally fails [03:35] so network installation wins === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-218-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shining [n=xav@AFontenayssB-152-1-28-226.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:11] jdub: do you know why 915resolution isnt on the livecd? === lmanul [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=imbrando@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:22] Mithrandir: did the soversion on libobrender go *down*? [04:23] Mithrandir: obconf complains about not finding .so.1, openbox now ships .so.0.4.0 === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-252-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-200-253.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjr [i=mjrauhal@myntti.helsinki.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-252-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.49.183] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:18] tseng: yeah, it did, for some reason.. [05:18] Mithrandir: weird [05:22] I need to poke upstream about it === stillflame [n=stillfla@69-30-67-169.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] what the hell, lilo died? === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === besonen2_ [n=besonen2@dsl-db.pacinfo.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:37] <_ion> Yes. 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[11:52] any alt+sysrq+foo output? [11:52] you want to discuss this in -kernel, probably [11:53] crimsun: thanks will do. === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === exobuzz [n=jools@82-70-241-14.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lynxorgd [n=lyucnxt@ACCB9D15.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel