BenC | desrt: what's messed up with it? | 12:30 |
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crimsun | (thanks for the merges, BenC) | 12:31 |
BenC | crimsun: If you didn't notice, the stuff like you and zul have been sending me for dapper are now going into dapper-proposed-updates before they ever see dapper proper | 12:32 |
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crimsun | BenC: excellent (yep, noted the delay) | 12:33 |
BenC | crimsun: So if you want people to test the stuff, they have to add dapper-proposed-updates to sources.list, and manually install linux-image-2.6.15-50-<flavour> and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-50-<flavour> | 12:33 |
BenC | the dapper-proposed-updates ABI will _always_ be -50 | 12:34 |
BenC | there will be no proper tracking of ABI in proposed-updates | 12:34 |
crimsun | ah, great. Thanks for that info. | 12:34 |
BenC | but LRM will always be rebuilt after a new kernel, so it wont have a severe affect | 12:34 |
BenC | I'm still debating on whether to have a proposed-updates linux-meta | 12:34 |
BenC | also, kernel for proposed-updates will always contain latest stuff from -security too, so ppl don't need to worry about losing security updates | 12:35 |
BenC | I need to make a wiki page for this stuff | 12:35 |
crimsun | A mail to -announce would help, too (unless I missed a post?) | 12:37 |
BenC | yeah, still need to do that | 12:38 |
BenC | well, I need to ask Matt about that kind of exposure | 12:38 |
desrt | BenC; i just learnt that you can't do a git clone from http://www.kernel.org/ | 12:40 |
desrt | that's all :) | 12:40 |
BenC | ah | 12:40 |
BenC | I don't run the script that lets it work over http | 12:40 |
desrt | BenC; there's a regression on my laptop between 2.6.17-6-686 6.18 and -7-generic 7.20 | 12:40 |
desrt | i want to find it | 12:41 |
BenC | acpi, network? | 12:41 |
desrt | resume from sleep | 12:41 |
desrt | it locks on resume now | 12:41 |
BenC | it's almost surely fixed in current git | 12:41 |
BenC | and will be uploaded tonight | 12:41 |
desrt | i don't know enough about git to even get a diff between the two versions -- nevermind bisect | 12:41 |
desrt | oh. awesome. | 12:41 |
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desrt | no sense in leaving a bug sitting open that's fixed already :p | 12:44 |
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desrt | not fixed in 09-14 daily build, fwiw | 12:50 |
BenC | that one didn't contain the new acpi code | 12:54 |
desrt | cool. | 12:54 |
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BenC | infinity: ping | 04:03 |
zul_ | argh...it hates me | 04:21 |
zul_ | dpkg-gencontrol: error: Illegal package name `xen-headers-2.6.16-11.2-generic-xenU' | 04:21 |
BenC | it's the multiple -'s | 04:23 |
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BenC | yay, dapper-proposed kernel is ACCEPTED, pending an archive maintainer approval of course | 04:52 |
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fmasi | helo i was trying to aply Andrew Morton's -mm Kernel patch for 2.6.17-mm6 in kernel linux-2.6.17.13 but i got the folowing message: patching file usr/Makefile | 07:32 |
fmasi | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] | 07:32 |
fmasi | what sould i do | 07:32 |
desrt | fmasi; don't try to apply -mm patches to ubuntu kernels | 07:32 |
desrt | fmasi; -mm is a delta vs. the vanilla kernel. ubuntu has a lot of changes vs. vanilla a lot of them which are probably from -mm already and others which will conflict with those in -mm | 07:33 |
fmasi | desrt, i rying whith vanilla kernel | 07:34 |
desrt | why did you come here? | 07:34 |
desrt | in any case -- make sure your -mm patch is the same version as your kernel | 07:34 |
fmasi | becouse i use ubuntu and i like to know if you recomend to use some of the ubuntu patch agest vanilla kernel | 07:35 |
desrt | it's recommended to run the ubuntu kernel ;) | 07:35 |
fmasi | couse ubuntu daper dont have the 2.6-17 taht i nead | 07:35 |
fmasi | i realy nead 17 or up | 07:35 |
desrt | ah. i see. | 07:35 |
desrt | edgy has .17 | 07:35 |
desrt | and i'm guessing if you're building your own kernel you don't really need stability | 07:35 |
desrt | so maybe you want to give edgy a spin | 07:35 |
desrt | knot3 just came out | 07:36 |
fmasi | not realy but its alweys good | 07:36 |
fmasi | i like to stay whith daper but runing 17 | 07:36 |
fmasi | i try edgy on vmware | 07:36 |
desrt | that's gonna get funky :) | 07:36 |
fmasi | i building an experimental serevr and the sata2 controler is only suported bu .17 and up | 07:37 |
fmasi | just for home end use but still | 07:37 |
fmasi | like to test and use my brend new sata2 | 07:37 |
desrt | oh. if that's the problem then figure out the patch that fixed the sata2 controller and apply it to linux-source-2.6.15 | 07:37 |
fmasi | how can i figure that out its my first time trying to patch a kernel | 07:38 |
desrt | oh. | 07:38 |
fmasi | do you have eny totorial link i can read | 07:38 |
desrt | no. not really. | 07:38 |
desrt | is it a new driver? | 07:38 |
desrt | or support added to an old one? | 07:38 |
fmasi | i reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17 and some other tutorials | 07:38 |
fmasi | its new i ges | 07:39 |
fmasi | its a Promyse fasttrack TX4200 | 07:39 |
fmasi | i run on some docs that say its on vanilla 2.6-17 and up | 07:39 |
desrt | have you tried the ubuntu dapper kernel yet? ben always pulls in all sorts of newer drivers from later kernel versions.... | 07:40 |
fmasi | so i giv it a try and it whorks | 07:40 |
fmasi | it dont work | 07:40 |
desrt | maybe you'll get lucky | 07:40 |
desrt | maybe not :) | 07:40 |
fmasi | it dident whork | 07:40 |
fmasi | sniff | 07:40 |
fmasi | i have a 2.6-17 runing and it whorks | 07:41 |
fmasi | i dont know if i should just do a modprob for the daper one maby | 07:41 |
fmasi | how do i know whith modul to load | 07:41 |
desrt | dapper keeps a list of PCI IDs supported by each driver and autoloads drivers for you if it sees the PCI card | 07:42 |
fmasi | so it dont whork | 07:42 |
fmasi | sniff | 07:42 |
fmasi | will have to kip whith vanillha 2.6-17 | 07:42 |
fmasi | do you recoment using it nature or do i put some souce on it (patches i mean) | 07:43 |
fmasi | choclate or caramel maby lol | 07:43 |
fmasi | becouse i read sme nice stuf on mm patches (and some bad too ) so i dont know i i sould use a patch or not | 07:44 |
desrt | ok | 07:46 |
desrt | i can't find a driver with that name in the kernel | 07:46 |
desrt | -mm is the same deal with any prerelease stuff | 07:46 |
desrt | it's a heck of a lot more likely to crash | 07:47 |
desrt | but it might have features/bugfixes that you need | 07:47 |
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fmasi | i ges if i dont know of eny thing i nead more i dont nead it | 07:47 |
fmasi | what about reiser4 is is safe to use it ? is it bether to try it whith mm patches ? | 07:47 |
desrt | you're really far off topic for this channel | 07:49 |
desrt | i have no idea what the answers to these questions are | 07:49 |
desrt | but i suspect they're along the lines of "might be fun but make sure you have good backups" | 07:49 |
fmasi | ok thx for the help | 07:49 |
fmasi | i try just the vanillha kernel then | 07:49 |
fmasi | tune it up a but but kep whith vanillha | 07:50 |
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rmjb | hello | 07:52 |
rmjb | are there any issues with the asus.c file in the kernel? | 07:52 |
desrt | ... ?!? | 07:54 |
desrt | like how it doesn't exist? | 07:54 |
rmjb | well, i'm following this guide on dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild | 07:55 |
rmjb | and when I start the kernel compile it errors early on at an asus.c file, sorry I can't say where, I already rm -rf'ed the thing and I'm re-git-ing it | 07:56 |
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rmjb | if there's nothing known broken, is that guide the correct one to follow to upgrade a dapper kernel? | 08:08 |
johanbr | rmjb: I've never tried that method. I do "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image" in the kernel source dir and that works well, giving me a .deb at the end. | 08:12 |
rmjb | do you take your config from the boot directory or use the ones delivered in debian/configs/<ARCH>? | 08:14 |
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johanbr | rmjb: I usually make my own. | 08:21 |
johanbr | That way, I don't build a ton of modules I'll never have any use for. If you don't mind the extra build time, I'd imagine either of your suggestions would work fine, though. | 08:22 |
rmjb | okay, thanks | 08:22 |
rmjb | I'm not building a kernel for efficency, I was recommened to try that by the gphoto guys to see if my mtp player would work better | 08:23 |
rmjb | I'll just use the config from /boot | 08:23 |
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TheMuso | c | 02:47 |
zul | d | 02:48 |
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ph8 | do daily builds stop at the weekends? there doesn't seem to have been one released since knot3? | 07:09 |
desrt | ph8; new upload to edgy soon | 07:10 |
desrt | (was supposed to be last night, actually) | 07:10 |
desrt | in any case, not long of a wait | 07:10 |
ph8 | cheers desrt, does that mean a new daily will be released or will it only be available through apt? | 07:15 |
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desrt | i don't know. | 07:23 |
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[lt] BCC32 | Is anybody here who can answer some questions about Linux Hotplug Subsystem ? | 09:48 |
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ph8 | why not ask and see? ;) | 09:50 |
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davmor2 | Hi I'm having difficulties with 64 bit edgy. From knot3 live cd and from up-to-date install I get a soft lockup on cpu0 on shutdown or restart. | 11:56 |
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