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BenCdesrt: what's messed up with it?12:30
crimsun(thanks for the merges, BenC)12:31
BenCcrimsun: If you didn't notice, the stuff like you and zul have been sending me for dapper are now going into dapper-proposed-updates before they ever see dapper proper12:32
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crimsunBenC: excellent (yep, noted the delay)12:33
BenCcrimsun: So if you want people to test the stuff, they have to add dapper-proposed-updates to sources.list, and manually install linux-image-2.6.15-50-<flavour> and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-50-<flavour>12:33
BenCthe dapper-proposed-updates ABI will _always_ be -5012:34
BenCthere will be no proper tracking of ABI in proposed-updates12:34
crimsunah, great. Thanks for that info.12:34
BenCbut LRM will always be rebuilt after a new kernel, so it wont have a severe affect12:34
BenCI'm still debating on whether to have a proposed-updates linux-meta12:34
BenCalso, kernel for proposed-updates will always contain latest stuff from -security too, so ppl don't need to worry about losing security updates12:35
BenCI need to make a wiki page for this stuff12:35
crimsunA mail to -announce would help, too (unless I missed a post?)12:37
BenCyeah, still need to do that12:38
BenCwell, I need to ask Matt about that kind of exposure12:38
desrtBenC; i just learnt that you can't do a git clone from http://www.kernel.org/12:40
desrtthat's all :)12:40
BenCah12:40
BenCI don't run the script that lets it work over http12:40
desrtBenC; there's a regression on my laptop between 2.6.17-6-686 6.18 and -7-generic 7.2012:40
desrti want to find it12:41
BenCacpi, network?12:41
desrtresume from sleep12:41
desrtit locks on resume now12:41
BenCit's almost surely fixed in current git12:41
BenCand will be uploaded tonight12:41
desrti don't know enough about git to even get a diff between the two versions -- nevermind bisect12:41
desrtoh. awesome.12:41
=== desrt tries out a daily to find out for sure
desrtno sense in leaving a bug sitting open that's fixed already :p12:44
=== desrt gets 6283ed
desrtnot fixed in 09-14 daily build, fwiw12:50
BenCthat one didn't contain the new acpi code12:54
desrtcool.12:54
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BenCinfinity: ping04:03
zul_argh...it hates me04:21
zul_dpkg-gencontrol: error: Illegal package name `xen-headers-2.6.16-11.2-generic-xenU'04:21
BenCit's the multiple -'s04:23
=== ajmitch would say it's the U
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BenCyay, dapper-proposed kernel is ACCEPTED, pending an archive maintainer approval of course04:52
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fmasihelo i was trying to aply Andrew Morton's -mm Kernel patch for 2.6.17-mm6 in kernel linux-2.6.17.13 but i got the folowing message: patching file usr/Makefile07:32
fmasiReversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 07:32
fmasiwhat sould i do07:32
desrtfmasi; don't try to apply -mm patches to ubuntu kernels07:32
desrtfmasi; -mm is a delta vs. the vanilla kernel.  ubuntu has a lot of changes vs. vanilla a lot of them which are probably from -mm already and others which will conflict with those in -mm07:33
fmasidesrt, i rying whith vanilla kernel07:34
desrtwhy did you come here?07:34
desrtin any case -- make sure your -mm patch is the same version as your kernel07:34
fmasibecouse i use ubuntu and i like to know if you recomend to use some of the ubuntu patch agest vanilla kernel07:35
desrtit's recommended to run the ubuntu kernel ;)07:35
fmasicouse ubuntu daper dont have the 2.6-17 taht i nead07:35
fmasii realy nead 17 or up07:35
desrtah.  i see.07:35
desrtedgy has .1707:35
desrtand i'm guessing if you're building your own kernel you don't really need stability07:35
desrtso maybe you want to give edgy a spin07:35
desrtknot3 just came out07:36
fmasinot realy but its alweys good07:36
fmasii like to stay whith daper but runing 1707:36
fmasii try edgy on vmware07:36
desrtthat's gonna get funky :)07:36
fmasii building an experimental serevr and the sata2 controler is only suported bu .17 and up07:37
fmasijust for home end use but still07:37
fmasilike to test and use my brend new sata207:37
desrtoh.  if that's the problem then figure out the patch that fixed the sata2 controller and apply it to linux-source-2.6.1507:37
fmasihow can i figure that out its my first time trying to patch a kernel07:38
desrtoh.07:38
fmasido you have eny totorial link i can read07:38
desrtno.  not really.07:38
desrtis it a new driver?07:38
desrtor support added to an old one?07:38
fmasii reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17 and some other tutorials07:38
fmasiits new i ges07:39
fmasiits a Promyse fasttrack TX420007:39
fmasii run on some docs that say its on vanilla 2.6-17 and up07:39
desrthave you tried the ubuntu dapper kernel yet?  ben always pulls in all sorts of newer drivers from later kernel versions....07:40
fmasiso i giv it a try and it whorks07:40
fmasiit dont work07:40
desrtmaybe you'll get lucky07:40
desrtmaybe not :)07:40
fmasiit dident whork07:40
fmasisniff07:40
fmasii have a 2.6-17 runing and it whorks07:41
fmasii dont know if i should just do a modprob for the daper one maby07:41
fmasihow do i know whith modul to load07:41
desrtdapper keeps a list of PCI IDs supported by each driver and autoloads drivers for you if it sees the PCI card07:42
fmasiso it dont whork07:42
fmasisniff07:42
fmasiwill have to kip whith vanillha 2.6-1707:42
fmasido you recoment using it nature or do i put some souce on it (patches i mean)07:43
fmasichoclate or caramel maby lol07:43
fmasibecouse i read sme nice stuf on mm patches (and some bad too ) so i dont know i i sould use a patch or not07:44
desrtok07:46
desrti can't find a driver with that name in the kernel07:46
desrt-mm is the same deal with any prerelease stuff07:46
desrtit's a heck of a lot more likely to crash07:47
desrtbut it might have features/bugfixes that you need07:47
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fmasii ges if i dont know of eny thing i nead more i dont nead it 07:47
fmasiwhat about reiser4 is is safe to use it ? is it bether to try it whith mm patches ?07:47
desrtyou're really far off topic for this channel07:49
desrti have no idea what the answers to these questions are07:49
desrtbut i suspect they're along the lines of "might be fun but make sure you have good backups"07:49
fmasiok thx for the help07:49
fmasii try just the vanillha kernel then07:49
fmasitune it up a but but kep whith vanillha07:50
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rmjbhello07:52
rmjbare there any issues with the asus.c file in the kernel?07:52
desrt... ?!?07:54
desrtlike how it doesn't exist?07:54
rmjbwell, i'm following this guide on dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:55
rmjband when I start the kernel compile it errors early on at an asus.c file, sorry I can't say where, I already rm -rf'ed the thing and I'm re-git-ing it07:56
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rmjbif there's nothing known broken, is that guide the correct one to follow to upgrade a dapper kernel?08:08
johanbrrmjb: I've never tried that method. I do "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image" in the kernel source dir and that works well, giving me a .deb at the end.08:12
rmjbdo you take your config from the boot directory or use the ones delivered in debian/configs/<ARCH>?08:14
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johanbrrmjb: I usually make my own.08:21
johanbrThat way, I don't build a ton of modules I'll never have any use for. If you don't mind the extra build time, I'd imagine either of your suggestions would work fine, though.08:22
rmjbokay, thanks08:22
rmjbI'm not building a kernel for efficency, I was recommened to try that by the gphoto guys to see if my mtp player would work better08:23
rmjbI'll just use the config from /boot08:23
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TheMusoc02:47
zuld02:48
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ph8do daily builds stop at the weekends? there doesn't seem to have been one released since knot3?07:09
desrtph8; new upload to edgy soon07:10
desrt(was supposed to be last night, actually)07:10
desrtin any case, not long of a wait07:10
ph8cheers desrt, does that mean a new daily will be released or will it only be available through apt?07:15
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desrti don't know.07:23
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[lt] BCC32Is anybody here who can answer some questions about Linux Hotplug Subsystem ?09:48
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ph8why not ask and see? ;)09:50
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davmor2Hi I'm having difficulties with 64 bit edgy.  From knot3 live cd and from up-to-date install I get a soft lockup on cpu0 on shutdown or restart.11:56
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