[12:30] <BenC> desrt: what's messed up with it?
[12:31] <crimsun> (thanks for the merges, BenC)
[12:32] <BenC> crimsun: If you didn't notice, the stuff like you and zul have been sending me for dapper are now going into dapper-proposed-updates before they ever see dapper proper
[12:33] <crimsun> BenC: excellent (yep, noted the delay)
[12:33] <BenC> crimsun: So if you want people to test the stuff, they have to add dapper-proposed-updates to sources.list, and manually install linux-image-2.6.15-50-<flavour> and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-50-<flavour>
[12:34] <BenC> the dapper-proposed-updates ABI will _always_ be -50
[12:34] <BenC> there will be no proper tracking of ABI in proposed-updates
[12:34] <crimsun> ah, great. Thanks for that info.
[12:34] <BenC> but LRM will always be rebuilt after a new kernel, so it wont have a severe affect
[12:34] <BenC> I'm still debating on whether to have a proposed-updates linux-meta
[12:35] <BenC> also, kernel for proposed-updates will always contain latest stuff from -security too, so ppl don't need to worry about losing security updates
[12:35] <BenC> I need to make a wiki page for this stuff
[12:37] <crimsun> A mail to -announce would help, too (unless I missed a post?)
[12:38] <BenC> yeah, still need to do that
[12:38] <BenC> well, I need to ask Matt about that kind of exposure
[12:40] <desrt> BenC; i just learnt that you can't do a git clone from http://www.kernel.org/
[12:40] <desrt> that's all :)
[12:40] <BenC> ah
[12:40] <BenC> I don't run the script that lets it work over http
[12:40] <desrt> BenC; there's a regression on my laptop between 2.6.17-6-686 6.18 and -7-generic 7.20
[12:41] <desrt> i want to find it
[12:41] <BenC> acpi, network?
[12:41] <desrt> resume from sleep
[12:41] <desrt> it locks on resume now
[12:41] <BenC> it's almost surely fixed in current git
[12:41] <BenC> and will be uploaded tonight
[12:41] <desrt> i don't know enough about git to even get a diff between the two versions -- nevermind bisect
[12:41] <desrt> oh. awesome.
[12:44] <desrt> no sense in leaving a bug sitting open that's fixed already :p
[12:50] <desrt> not fixed in 09-14 daily build, fwiw
[12:54] <BenC> that one didn't contain the new acpi code
[12:54] <desrt> cool.
[04:03] <BenC> infinity: ping
[04:21] <zul_> argh...it hates me
[04:21] <zul_> dpkg-gencontrol: error: Illegal package name `xen-headers-2.6.16-11.2-generic-xenU'
[04:23] <BenC> it's the multiple -'s
[04:52] <BenC> yay, dapper-proposed kernel is ACCEPTED, pending an archive maintainer approval of course
[07:32] <fmasi> helo i was trying to aply Andrew Morton's -mm Kernel patch for 2.6.17-mm6 in kernel linux-2.6.17.13 but i got the folowing message: patching file usr/Makefile
[07:32] <fmasi> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
[07:32] <fmasi> what sould i do
[07:32] <desrt> fmasi; don't try to apply -mm patches to ubuntu kernels
[07:33] <desrt> fmasi; -mm is a delta vs. the vanilla kernel.  ubuntu has a lot of changes vs. vanilla a lot of them which are probably from -mm already and others which will conflict with those in -mm
[07:34] <fmasi> desrt, i rying whith vanilla kernel
[07:34] <desrt> why did you come here?
[07:34] <desrt> in any case -- make sure your -mm patch is the same version as your kernel
[07:35] <fmasi> becouse i use ubuntu and i like to know if you recomend to use some of the ubuntu patch agest vanilla kernel
[07:35] <desrt> it's recommended to run the ubuntu kernel ;)
[07:35] <fmasi> couse ubuntu daper dont have the 2.6-17 taht i nead
[07:35] <fmasi> i realy nead 17 or up
[07:35] <desrt> ah.  i see.
[07:35] <desrt> edgy has .17
[07:35] <desrt> and i'm guessing if you're building your own kernel you don't really need stability
[07:35] <desrt> so maybe you want to give edgy a spin
[07:36] <desrt> knot3 just came out
[07:36] <fmasi> not realy but its alweys good
[07:36] <fmasi> i like to stay whith daper but runing 17
[07:36] <fmasi> i try edgy on vmware
[07:36] <desrt> that's gonna get funky :)
[07:37] <fmasi> i building an experimental serevr and the sata2 controler is only suported bu .17 and up
[07:37] <fmasi> just for home end use but still
[07:37] <fmasi> like to test and use my brend new sata2
[07:37] <desrt> oh.  if that's the problem then figure out the patch that fixed the sata2 controller and apply it to linux-source-2.6.15
[07:38] <fmasi> how can i figure that out its my first time trying to patch a kernel
[07:38] <desrt> oh.
[07:38] <fmasi> do you have eny totorial link i can read
[07:38] <desrt> no.  not really.
[07:38] <desrt> is it a new driver?
[07:38] <desrt> or support added to an old one?
[07:38] <fmasi> i reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17 and some other tutorials
[07:39] <fmasi> its new i ges
[07:39] <fmasi> its a Promyse fasttrack TX4200
[07:39] <fmasi> i run on some docs that say its on vanilla 2.6-17 and up
[07:40] <desrt> have you tried the ubuntu dapper kernel yet?  ben always pulls in all sorts of newer drivers from later kernel versions....
[07:40] <fmasi> so i giv it a try and it whorks
[07:40] <fmasi> it dont work
[07:40] <desrt> maybe you'll get lucky
[07:40] <desrt> maybe not :)
[07:40] <fmasi> it dident whork
[07:40] <fmasi> sniff
[07:41] <fmasi> i have a 2.6-17 runing and it whorks
[07:41] <fmasi> i dont know if i should just do a modprob for the daper one maby
[07:41] <fmasi> how do i know whith modul to load
[07:42] <desrt> dapper keeps a list of PCI IDs supported by each driver and autoloads drivers for you if it sees the PCI card
[07:42] <fmasi> so it dont whork
[07:42] <fmasi> sniff
[07:42] <fmasi> will have to kip whith vanillha 2.6-17
[07:43] <fmasi> do you recoment using it nature or do i put some souce on it (patches i mean)
[07:43] <fmasi> choclate or caramel maby lol
[07:44] <fmasi> becouse i read sme nice stuf on mm patches (and some bad too ) so i dont know i i sould use a patch or not
[07:46] <desrt> ok
[07:46] <desrt> i can't find a driver with that name in the kernel
[07:46] <desrt> -mm is the same deal with any prerelease stuff
[07:47] <desrt> it's a heck of a lot more likely to crash
[07:47] <desrt> but it might have features/bugfixes that you need
[07:47] <fmasi> i ges if i dont know of eny thing i nead more i dont nead it 
[07:47] <fmasi> what about reiser4 is is safe to use it ? is it bether to try it whith mm patches ?
[07:49] <desrt> you're really far off topic for this channel
[07:49] <desrt> i have no idea what the answers to these questions are
[07:49] <desrt> but i suspect they're along the lines of "might be fun but make sure you have good backups"
[07:49] <fmasi> ok thx for the help
[07:49] <fmasi> i try just the vanillha kernel then
[07:50] <fmasi> tune it up a but but kep whith vanillha
[07:52] <rmjb> hello
[07:52] <rmjb> are there any issues with the asus.c file in the kernel?
[07:54] <desrt> ... ?!?
[07:54] <desrt> like how it doesn't exist?
[07:55] <rmjb> well, i'm following this guide on dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:56] <rmjb> and when I start the kernel compile it errors early on at an asus.c file, sorry I can't say where, I already rm -rf'ed the thing and I'm re-git-ing it
[08:08] <rmjb> if there's nothing known broken, is that guide the correct one to follow to upgrade a dapper kernel?
[08:12] <johanbr> rmjb: I've never tried that method. I do "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image" in the kernel source dir and that works well, giving me a .deb at the end.
[08:14] <rmjb> do you take your config from the boot directory or use the ones delivered in debian/configs/<ARCH>?
[08:21] <johanbr> rmjb: I usually make my own.
[08:22] <johanbr> That way, I don't build a ton of modules I'll never have any use for. If you don't mind the extra build time, I'd imagine either of your suggestions would work fine, though.
[08:22] <rmjb> okay, thanks
[08:23] <rmjb> I'm not building a kernel for efficency, I was recommened to try that by the gphoto guys to see if my mtp player would work better
[08:23] <rmjb> I'll just use the config from /boot
[02:47] <TheMuso> c
[02:48] <zul> d
[07:09] <ph8> do daily builds stop at the weekends? there doesn't seem to have been one released since knot3?
[07:10] <desrt> ph8; new upload to edgy soon
[07:10] <desrt> (was supposed to be last night, actually)
[07:10] <desrt> in any case, not long of a wait
[07:15] <ph8> cheers desrt, does that mean a new daily will be released or will it only be available through apt?
[07:23] <desrt> i don't know.
[09:48] <[lt] BCC32> Is anybody here who can answer some questions about Linux Hotplug Subsystem ?
[09:50] <ph8> why not ask and see? ;)
[11:56] <davmor2> Hi I'm having difficulties with 64 bit edgy.  From knot3 live cd and from up-to-date install I get a soft lockup on cpu0 on shutdown or restart.