[12:30] desrt: what's messed up with it? [12:31] (thanks for the merges, BenC) [12:32] crimsun: If you didn't notice, the stuff like you and zul have been sending me for dapper are now going into dapper-proposed-updates before they ever see dapper proper === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-236-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:33] BenC: excellent (yep, noted the delay) [12:33] crimsun: So if you want people to test the stuff, they have to add dapper-proposed-updates to sources.list, and manually install linux-image-2.6.15-50- and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-50- [12:34] the dapper-proposed-updates ABI will _always_ be -50 [12:34] there will be no proper tracking of ABI in proposed-updates [12:34] ah, great. Thanks for that info. [12:34] but LRM will always be rebuilt after a new kernel, so it wont have a severe affect [12:34] I'm still debating on whether to have a proposed-updates linux-meta [12:35] also, kernel for proposed-updates will always contain latest stuff from -security too, so ppl don't need to worry about losing security updates [12:35] I need to make a wiki page for this stuff [12:37] A mail to -announce would help, too (unless I missed a post?) [12:38] yeah, still need to do that [12:38] well, I need to ask Matt about that kind of exposure [12:40] BenC; i just learnt that you can't do a git clone from http://www.kernel.org/ [12:40] that's all :) [12:40] ah [12:40] I don't run the script that lets it work over http [12:40] BenC; there's a regression on my laptop between 2.6.17-6-686 6.18 and -7-generic 7.20 [12:41] i want to find it [12:41] acpi, network? [12:41] resume from sleep [12:41] it locks on resume now [12:41] it's almost surely fixed in current git [12:41] and will be uploaded tonight [12:41] i don't know enough about git to even get a diff between the two versions -- nevermind bisect [12:41] oh. awesome. === desrt tries out a daily to find out for sure [12:44] no sense in leaving a bug sitting open that's fixed already :p === desrt gets 6283ed [12:50] not fixed in 09-14 daily build, fwiw [12:54] that one didn't contain the new acpi code [12:54] cool. === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dmk [n=dmk_uk@host81-156-244-207.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:03] infinity: ping [04:21] argh...it hates me [04:21] dpkg-gencontrol: error: Illegal package name `xen-headers-2.6.16-11.2-generic-xenU' [04:23] it's the multiple -'s === ajmitch would say it's the U === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:52] yay, dapper-proposed kernel is ACCEPTED, pending an archive maintainer approval of course === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fmasi [n=fmasi@20150132162.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:32] helo i was trying to aply Andrew Morton's -mm Kernel patch for 2.6.17-mm6 in kernel linux-2.6.17.13 but i got the folowing message: patching file usr/Makefile [07:32] Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] [07:32] what sould i do [07:32] fmasi; don't try to apply -mm patches to ubuntu kernels [07:33] fmasi; -mm is a delta vs. the vanilla kernel. ubuntu has a lot of changes vs. vanilla a lot of them which are probably from -mm already and others which will conflict with those in -mm [07:34] desrt, i rying whith vanilla kernel [07:34] why did you come here? [07:34] in any case -- make sure your -mm patch is the same version as your kernel [07:35] becouse i use ubuntu and i like to know if you recomend to use some of the ubuntu patch agest vanilla kernel [07:35] it's recommended to run the ubuntu kernel ;) [07:35] couse ubuntu daper dont have the 2.6-17 taht i nead [07:35] i realy nead 17 or up [07:35] ah. i see. [07:35] edgy has .17 [07:35] and i'm guessing if you're building your own kernel you don't really need stability [07:35] so maybe you want to give edgy a spin [07:36] knot3 just came out [07:36] not realy but its alweys good [07:36] i like to stay whith daper but runing 17 [07:36] i try edgy on vmware [07:36] that's gonna get funky :) [07:37] i building an experimental serevr and the sata2 controler is only suported bu .17 and up [07:37] just for home end use but still [07:37] like to test and use my brend new sata2 [07:37] oh. if that's the problem then figure out the patch that fixed the sata2 controller and apply it to linux-source-2.6.15 [07:38] how can i figure that out its my first time trying to patch a kernel [07:38] oh. [07:38] do you have eny totorial link i can read [07:38] no. not really. [07:38] is it a new driver? [07:38] or support added to an old one? [07:38] i reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17 and some other tutorials [07:39] its new i ges [07:39] its a Promyse fasttrack TX4200 [07:39] i run on some docs that say its on vanilla 2.6-17 and up [07:40] have you tried the ubuntu dapper kernel yet? ben always pulls in all sorts of newer drivers from later kernel versions.... [07:40] so i giv it a try and it whorks [07:40] it dont work [07:40] maybe you'll get lucky [07:40] maybe not :) [07:40] it dident whork [07:40] sniff [07:41] i have a 2.6-17 runing and it whorks [07:41] i dont know if i should just do a modprob for the daper one maby [07:41] how do i know whith modul to load [07:42] dapper keeps a list of PCI IDs supported by each driver and autoloads drivers for you if it sees the PCI card [07:42] so it dont whork [07:42] sniff [07:42] will have to kip whith vanillha 2.6-17 [07:43] do you recoment using it nature or do i put some souce on it (patches i mean) [07:43] choclate or caramel maby lol [07:44] becouse i read sme nice stuf on mm patches (and some bad too ) so i dont know i i sould use a patch or not [07:46] ok [07:46] i can't find a driver with that name in the kernel [07:46] -mm is the same deal with any prerelease stuff [07:47] it's a heck of a lot more likely to crash [07:47] but it might have features/bugfixes that you need === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-236-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:47] i ges if i dont know of eny thing i nead more i dont nead it [07:47] what about reiser4 is is safe to use it ? is it bether to try it whith mm patches ? [07:49] you're really far off topic for this channel [07:49] i have no idea what the answers to these questions are [07:49] but i suspect they're along the lines of "might be fun but make sure you have good backups" [07:49] ok thx for the help [07:49] i try just the vanillha kernel then [07:50] tune it up a but but kep whith vanillha === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon24523.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:52] hello [07:52] are there any issues with the asus.c file in the kernel? [07:54] ... ?!? [07:54] like how it doesn't exist? [07:55] well, i'm following this guide on dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild [07:56] and when I start the kernel compile it errors early on at an asus.c file, sorry I can't say where, I already rm -rf'ed the thing and I'm re-git-ing it === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:08] if there's nothing known broken, is that guide the correct one to follow to upgrade a dapper kernel? [08:12] rmjb: I've never tried that method. I do "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image" in the kernel source dir and that works well, giving me a .deb at the end. [08:14] do you take your config from the boot directory or use the ones delivered in debian/configs/? === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:21] rmjb: I usually make my own. [08:22] That way, I don't build a ton of modules I'll never have any use for. If you don't mind the extra build time, I'd imagine either of your suggestions would work fine, though. [08:22] okay, thanks [08:23] I'm not building a kernel for efficency, I was recommened to try that by the gphoto guys to see if my mtp player would work better [08:23] I'll just use the config from /boot === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-229-117.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === alef0 [n=alef0@M889P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kylem_ [n=kyle@cabal.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:47] c [02:48] d === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ph8 [n=ph8@81-179-111-203.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@zg07-077.dialin.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:09] do daily builds stop at the weekends? there doesn't seem to have been one released since knot3? [07:10] ph8; new upload to edgy soon [07:10] (was supposed to be last night, actually) [07:10] in any case, not long of a wait [07:15] cheers desrt, does that mean a new daily will be released or will it only be available through apt? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:23] i don't know. === dilinger [n=dilinger@c-24-128-243-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jwest- [n=jwest@unaffiliated/jwest/x-422957] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ph8 [n=ph8@81-179-111-203.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-236-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-175.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === [lt] BCC32 [n=maruka@88.118.53.218] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:48] <[lt] BCC32> Is anybody here who can answer some questions about Linux Hotplug Subsystem ? === [lt] BCC32 [n=maruka@88.118.53.218] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [09:50] why not ask and see? ;) === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-091-127.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dilinger [n=dilinger@c-24-128-243-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ph8 [n=ph8@81-179-111-203.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@jupiter.physics.ubc.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === davmor2 [n=davmor2@62-30-74-119.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:56] Hi I'm having difficulties with 64 bit edgy. From knot3 live cd and from up-to-date install I get a soft lockup on cpu0 on shutdown or restart. === davmor2 [n=davmor2@62-30-74-119.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-kernel []