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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:Riddell] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's channel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam | UWN #13 is out | Help us write UWN 14 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14 | Channel logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | Marr Revell please ping riddell
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adamant1988nixternal, I need your services good lad.06:00
Burgundaviahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue1407:27
Burgundaviagobby up07:27
Burgundavianixternal, elkbuntu07:27
elkbuntuBurgundavia, ive got the online versions of the surveys going, can we include it?07:28
Burgundaviayep07:28
MadpilotI suspect trying to install/run gobby would choke this laptop/LiveCD session, or I'd join just to watch07:28
elkbuntui'll jump on it in a sec, Burgundavia07:28
Burgundaviasounds good07:29
poningru...07:30
Burgundaviaponingru: jump on07:30
poningruyarr07:31
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Burgundaviaelkbuntu: bug stats07:48
BurgundaviaI am working on the edgy stuff07:48
dotwaffleI'd help out, but gobby refuses to compile on OSX, and my Ubuntu machine is several metres away07:48
elkbuntuBurgundavia, im putting in the stuff about the surveys..07:48
Burgundaviaperfect07:48
Burgundaviahmm07:49
poningrudotwaffle: ...07:49
Burgundaviadotwaffle: can you write a little story on the plan for edgy cds, from the email jane sent to -marketing?07:51
BurgundaviaI will add it to UWN07:51
elkbuntuponingru, that background colour of yours is pure evil :P07:52
BurgundaviaI find it ironic that the two men have blue and the woman has pink07:52
Burgundaviareminds me of sex ed class07:52
elkbuntuBurgundavia, lol, well last time i used purple, someone else had done the same07:53
dotwaffleBurgundavia: If you'd like me to, sure.07:53
elkbuntuand i figured none of you guys were going to use pink ;)07:53
Burgundaviadotwaffle: if you want to help07:53
dotwaffleBurgundavia: I'd love to - although I normally do tv journalism rather than written, it'll refine my skills somewhat.07:53
Burgundaviasounds good07:54
poningruelkbuntu: hmm I guess I can change it07:54
poningrurofl07:54
Burgundaviathee or four sentences are good07:54
poningrusomeone refine my poc07:54
elkbuntuponingru, dont worry for now.. my eyes are just grumpy from taking until 4.15 this morning to get the online surveys up07:54
Burgundaviacan somebody break out that giant chunk of Kubuntu stuff?07:54
dotwaffleBurgundavia: Yeah, the key is keeping it interesting, which is the hard bit :)07:54
Burgundaviawe can help you with that07:56
elkbuntuis someone on the kubuntu thing or shoul di start?07:56
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elkbuntuok i'll leave it then07:56
BurgundaviaI want that to be at least three seperate paras07:57
elkbuntuit might be fatigue making me senile, but can someone tell me what g-a-i is :-/07:58
Burgundaviagnome app install, or Add/Remove08:00
elkbuntuah, right08:01
poningruelkbuntu: I know what you mean, I had to go to sfd early in the morn to setup everything, and then work, on top of all that my roomate and i both have like a 100 degree fever08:05
poningrudont worry you will probably see that in the vids though ;)08:05
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elkbuntuponingru, my plan for sfd fell through, which was probably fortunate08:05
dotwaffleIs Dapper 5 years on the desktop or 3 years and 5 on the server?08:10
elkbuntu3 desk 5 server iirc08:10
Madpilotdotwaffle, 3 desktop, 5 server08:10
dotwafflecheers08:10
poningruyeah08:13
poningruBurgundavia: how does one figure out the lts updates?08:17
Burgundavialook at the dapper-changes list08:18
poningruah thanks08:21
dotwaffle"How about some torrent action?" ???08:23
poningruwhy not?08:23
dotwafflesounds... crass08:23
poningruits got sazz08:23
poningruhehe08:23
poningruedit it away if you want... /me didnt touch it08:24
Burgundaviahey dotwaffle08:24
dotwaffleHey Burgundavia, logged in, reading it top to bototm08:24
Burgundaviasounds good08:25
elkbuntudotwaffle, try work on the part that says: Don't forget quick installation notes, enable extra repository, package name, use g-a-i where possible, etc... (could someone make this comprehensible to mortals?)08:26
elkbuntumy brain is trying to go on hiatus today i think08:26
dotwaffleelkbuntu: no problem, just reading the rest, correcting small mistakes etc then will work on it :)08:28
dotwaffleelkbuntu: line 98?08:29
dotwafflemust be08:29
elkbuntuyep08:29
dotwafflewhat do you mean installation notes?08:29
elkbuntunot entirely sure myself.. i didnt write that part, but i coldnt figure how to make it mortal friendly either08:30
dotwaffleok08:31
dotwafflejust installing new gobby, back in 2 ;)08:31
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Burgundaviaok, bloody laptop08:33
Burgundaviaback up08:33
Burgundaviaelkbuntu, poningru, dotwaffle08:33
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dotwaffleok, this is annoying - just let update-manager run, and gobby will no longer connect, protocol version mismatch. Arg.08:34
Burgundaviaright, new version of gobby08:34
poningruanyone seen mathewrevell around?08:34
BurgundaviaI have not yet updated08:34
dotwaffleponingru: I can get in contact with him if it's urgent08:35
poningruits not08:35
dotwaffleok08:35
poningruthanks though08:36
elkbuntuhe comes in for a bit every other day, life has stolen him from us a bit08:36
dotwaffleyeha08:36
elkbuntuanyway, im going to go for a walk to hopefully wake my brain up :|08:36
elkbuntucatch youse later08:36
poningrucya08:36
dotwaffleok, big bollocks, old gobby no longer exists in the repo...08:37
Burgundaviajust a sec, I might have the .debs still08:38
dotwafflethanks08:38
Burgundaviayou are out of luck, I don't have them08:39
dotwaffle:( backwards compatibility... grunt08:39
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poningruouch08:39
poningruhold on08:39
dotwafflenever. NEVER let your housemates upgrade a machine while you're working on itl.08:40
elkbuntuooh, i havent left yet.. let me find the gobby deb, i havnet upgrade here in days08:40
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dotwafflecheers08:40
poningruit didnt have an update08:40
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elkbuntuwell i guess the dapper version might still work?08:41
dotwafflei hope so...08:41
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elkbuntuhttp://meldra.no-ip.info:8080/gobby_0.3.0-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb08:42
dotwafflejust changing repos for it08:42
dotwaffleoh, cheers ;)08:42
elkbuntudont dont08:42
elkbuntuas in, dont change repos ;)08:42
elkbuntuanyway, have fun, i hope it works, cyas08:43
dotwafflecheers08:43
poningruhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/gobby08:44
poningruah08:44
poningruhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/gobby08:45
Madpilotnight all08:46
poningrunn08:46
poningruerr...08:46
dotwafflehmmm. Name is already in use - am I still connected to the gobby session?08:48
poningruyeah you are08:49
dotwaffleodd. ah well, new name, new colour08:49
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dotwaffleAnyone here got anything to say about the REVU day? Writing an article for UWN, and can't find much to write about it09:06
poningrudotwaffle: err hold on it was on the motu list iirc09:09
dotwafflecheers - point me somewhere and I'll go write :)09:09
poningruelkbuntu: http://www.flickr.com/photos/puggles/09:11
dotwaffleoh crap, that was yesterday, wasn't it?09:12
poningruhehe yeah09:12
dotwaffleah well, at least I'll remember Talk Like A Pirate Day.09:13
poningruyarr09:13
dotwaffleHarrrr, install Ubuntu matey!09:13
poningruhttp://loadingreadyrun.com/showmovie.php?x=480&y=360&url=talklikepirate.mov09:14
dotwaffleNay, not yarrr...09:14
Flannelmatey? TLAPD isn't until tuesday!09:14
dotwaffleponingru: http://loadingreadyrun.com/showmovie.php?x=480&y=360&url=talklikepirate.mov09:15
dotwaffledamnit, you got there first ;)09:15
poningruhttp://loadingreadyrun.com/movies/talklikepirate.mov09:15
poningruhehe09:15
dotwaffleand again09:15
elkbuntuomfg i didnt know lilo died :(09:15
Flannelthat's an awesome domain name, by the way.09:15
dotwaffleelkbuntu: yeah, up until about an hour ago, I had a /query open from him :(09:16
elkbuntuim all sad now09:16
dotwaffleapparently he was 51... Didn't seem that old...09:16
Flannelelkbuntu, on the... morbid bright side (or maybe the incessantly optomistic side), it takes the wind out of the 'lets move from freenode' people's sails.09:16
Flanneldotwaffle: he got hit by a car, age doesn't matter09:16
elkbuntuFlannel, i dont think that's what he meant09:17
Flannelfair enough09:17
poningruyeah the good do die young09:17
elkbuntubut like... when?09:18
Burgundaviahe was hit by a car on the 12th and has been in a coma since then09:18
dotwaffleany news on reiser btw?09:18
elkbuntusince then until <insert time>?09:19
elkbuntulike, yesterday or today or what?09:19
poningruelkbuntu: yesterday09:19
poningruon sfd09:19
elkbuntu:(09:19
poningrulocal time09:19
dotwaffleright, I'm going to get a shower, I've got to go to Manchester in ~40 minutes to meet with a client. Yes, on a Sunday.09:21
dotwaffletoodles09:22
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=== poningru is so dead tired
Klaidasgo to bed09:26
Burgundaviaponingru: go to bed, I can finish it09:26
poningru:)09:26
poningruthanks09:26
poningrunn09:26
poningruI still cant figure out what else to add09:26
poningruI was scouring google news for more...09:27
poningruanyway nn09:27
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Burgundaviaok, that is really odd, we just had a huge list of 150 unsubscribed10:35
Burgundaviafrom -news10:35
elkbuntuwow, in the past few hours?10:51
Burgundaviayep10:51
Flannelwhat'd you do to offend them? ;)10:52
Burgundaviaheh10:52
elkbuntui still havent subscribed to it yet either10:52
Burgundaviathat many must be a glitch10:52
Burgundaviatbh, I am not subscribed to ubuntu-news10:52
Burgundaviaanyway, is 2am here10:52
elkbuntulol10:52
Burgundaviagoing to delay until tomorrow monring10:53
elkbuntuok, night corey10:53
elkbuntugood idea10:53
Burgundaviafeel free to edit10:53
Burgundaviaback in teh wiki10:53
elkbuntuyep10:53
elkbuntuit's going to be a looong night on here (freenode) i think10:53
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elkbuntubwahahaha.. the surveys are working in ways i had not thought of: <hantoo> i gave some thoughts on the 'how are you contributing to the community' .. i should start doing something =)11:47
Klaidas:-D11:55
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John-Coffehousemorning03:01
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free_attitudehello04:46
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lophytehry nixternal05:17
nixternalhry05:17
nixternalgood05:18
lophyte..hey, too05:18
lophyte:P05:18
nixternali forgot to answer first .;)05:18
lophytewe had an excellent SFD event yesterday05:18
lophyteubuntu toronto is officially kicked off :)05:20
free_attitudehello again05:26
free_attitudei was off my computer for a while :)05:26
free_attitudeanyone here who is active in ubuntu magazine team?05:26
nixternalthere is no ubuntu magazine anymore05:28
nixternalthat rocks lophyte!05:28
lophyteindeed :)05:29
lophytethanks for the help and such starting me off05:29
nixternalheh, don't know what i did, but kool!05:29
free_attitudeok05:32
free_attitudethanks05:32
free_attitudei wanted to help05:33
free_attitudeI am FLOSS journalist :)05:33
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nixternalwell05:35
nixternalthere are plenty of otherways to help as well05:35
nixternalwe have the fridge...which is the reason why there isn't a magazine anymore05:35
poningrushould I not upgrade gobby?05:37
poningrudotwaffle ^^^05:37
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elkbuntufree_attitude, where do you do journalism for?05:59
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free_attitudeI am from Serbia07:05
free_attitudewrite for several maazines here07:06
free_attitudeabout FLOSS07:06
free_attitudeI am also editor in chief of the electonic magazine about FS in serbian07:06
free_attitudecalled GNUzilla07:06
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adamant1988hello all07:12
lophytehey adamant1988!07:12
adamant1988wow... such emotion... do I know you lophyte ?07:13
lophyteyes :P07:13
lophyteI guess you don't remember me07:13
adamant1988probably not.. I'm tired..07:13
lophytewe spoke briefly a while ago about business ideas and spreading ubuntu07:14
adamant1988aha07:14
adamant1988well, I'm actually working on that right now still :)07:15
lophytecool07:15
lophyteI'm still not exactly sure how to go about it07:18
adamant1988well right now, I'm simply doing this07:18
adamant1988giving out free computers.07:18
lophytehow do you manage that?07:18
adamant1988I'm collecting older hardware that people aren't using anymore, loading Ubuntu or some other light distribution on it (depending on what the hardware can run) and giving it away for free.07:19
adamant1988eventually, I'll start collecting money on the service expenses because I have a local monopoly on linux service.07:19
lophyteits hard to have a local monopoly on linux service in Toronto ;)07:20
lophyteI recently started the Ubuntu Toronto LoCo team though07:21
lophytewe held a celebration for Software Freedom Day yesterday and handed out a good 100 CDs and had demos and such07:21
adamant1988yeah, I'm working on starting a loco team here in Elkins.07:21
lophytewe started a week ago and have about 12 people involved07:21
adamant1988nice07:22
poningruadamant1988: a nice thing to do is go to the local govt auction07:24
adamant1988yeah, we won't be having those for a while07:26
poningruadamant1988: arr?07:29
adamant1988they do all of them on the court house steps07:29
adamant1988it's getting close to winter and it's raining a lot.07:29
adamant1988I seriously don't want to by a computer that's been through all that -_-07:30
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Burgundaviaanybody around?08:35
poningruyeah08:41
poningruwhatsup?08:41
poningruBurgundavia: can we have a sobby server running somewhere?08:41
poningruand sync with wiki every now and then?08:42
Burgundavianope, but I can get one up08:42
poningruBurgundavia: I can do that now :)08:42
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poningruBurgundavia: running sobby where?08:43
Burgundaviaup in a sec08:43
dotwaffleponingru: The latest gobby in edgy is NOT backwards compatible with the gobby in dapper. So no, not yet.08:44
BurgundaviaI have not yet updated08:45
Burgundaviaso I still have the old version08:45
poningruoh wtf08:45
poningrucrap08:45
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poningrudo I have to remove the libs as well?08:45
Burgundavialikely08:45
Burgundaviahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14?08:46
dotwaffleponingru: The way I ahd to do it was change /etc/apt/sources.list to dapper, uninstall gobby through aptitude (hence, getting rid of all dependencies of it) then reinstall it, then move back to edgy.08:46
poningrudotwaffle: or take advantage of the autoremove functionality in apt-get now ;)08:56
dotwaffleponingru: Oh, that's good :) I've been using that feature in aptitude for a while, didn't realise it was now active in apt-get too =)08:57
poningruthanks man08:58
dotwaffleno probs09:00
poningruBurgundavia: I just got disconnected09:02
Burgundaviagobby just bloody died09:03
poningruah yeah we need a sobby server09:03
Burgundaviathat we do09:03
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poningruif you are busy I can set one up here09:04
poningrumore than happy to btw09:04
Burgundaviano, pissed of 'cause I just lost a bunch of work09:05
Burgundaviaand now gobby will not start09:05
poningruI think I have your work actually hold on09:05
poningrucan you give an example of what you worked on?09:06
Burgundavialast piece was a copy to the kde section09:06
Burgundaviaadding kdepim 3.80.109:06
Burgundaviaplease say you have it, otherwise I will be pissed09:07
poningrulet me see09:07
poningruThe KDE4 packages mentioned last week began arriving in the archive this week. Jonathon Riddell uploaded kdebase 3.80.1, kdepimlibs 3.80.1 and kdelibs 3.80.1, the basis for the rest of KDE, which is expected over the next few weeks.09:09
poningru?09:09
poningruif so then yeah i do have it09:09
poningrugrr gobby just died on me too09:09
Burgundaviafuck09:09
Burgundaviasorry09:09
Burgundaviadid you save it?09:10
poningruyeah i did09:10
Burgundaviaperfect, can you email it to me?09:10
poningrui will upload it to wiki09:11
Burgundaviaright09:11
Burgundaviagobby coming down09:11
BurgundaviaI think these crashes are related to at-spi09:11
poningruk09:12
poningrusent09:13
Riddellactually I uploaded them ages ago, they just seem to be sporadically approved through NEW09:17
poningruhehe09:18
poningruBurgundavia: if you are having trouble starting gobby back up09:18
poningruI can host it09:19
poningrunot that, it will help much... since you will still be out...09:19
poningru70.171.62.2809:19
poningru652209:19
Burgundaviaright, I am going back to the wiki09:20
poningruok yeah that seems like a good idea09:20
poningruBurgundavia: try deleting your .gobby in ~09:21
Burgundaviaapparently it was cleared09:22
poningruerr the wiki seems...09:22
poningruempty09:23
Burgundaviacopy your content voer09:24
poningruk09:28
Burgundaviaponingru: sorry, I keep hitting refresh, but that keeps reverting09:33
BurgundaviaI am sorry09:33
poningrusok09:34
poningrubtw whats feature of the week?09:35
Burgundaviano idea09:35
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Burgundaviaponingru: I am headed up for a few hours, work on it on the wiki and I will finish the release when I get back10:05
poningruk10:06
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poningruBurgundavia: broke that giant thing into pieces11:35
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