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[01:37] <MenZa> bed.
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[06:00] <adamant1988> nixternal, I need your services good lad.
[07:27] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14
[07:27] <Burgundavia> gobby up
[07:27] <Burgundavia> nixternal, elkbuntu
[07:28] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, ive got the online versions of the surveys going, can we include it?
[07:28] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:28] <Madpilot> I suspect trying to install/run gobby would choke this laptop/LiveCD session, or I'd join just to watch
[07:28] <elkbuntu> i'll jump on it in a sec, Burgundavia
[07:29] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[07:30] <poningru> ...
[07:30] <Burgundavia> poningru: jump on
[07:31] <poningru> yarr
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[07:48] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: bug stats
[07:48] <Burgundavia> I am working on the edgy stuff
[07:48] <dotwaffle> I'd help out, but gobby refuses to compile on OSX, and my Ubuntu machine is several metres away
[07:48] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, im putting in the stuff about the surveys..
[07:48] <Burgundavia> perfect
[07:49] <Burgundavia> hmm
[07:49] <poningru> dotwaffle: ...
[07:51] <Burgundavia> dotwaffle: can you write a little story on the plan for edgy cds, from the email jane sent to -marketing?
[07:51] <Burgundavia> I will add it to UWN
[07:52] <elkbuntu> poningru, that background colour of yours is pure evil :P
[07:52] <Burgundavia> I find it ironic that the two men have blue and the woman has pink
[07:52] <Burgundavia> reminds me of sex ed class
[07:53] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, lol, well last time i used purple, someone else had done the same
[07:53] <dotwaffle> Burgundavia: If you'd like me to, sure.
[07:53] <elkbuntu> and i figured none of you guys were going to use pink ;)
[07:53] <Burgundavia> dotwaffle: if you want to help
[07:53] <dotwaffle> Burgundavia: I'd love to - although I normally do tv journalism rather than written, it'll refine my skills somewhat.
[07:54] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[07:54] <poningru> elkbuntu: hmm I guess I can change it
[07:54] <poningru> rofl
[07:54] <Burgundavia> thee or four sentences are good
[07:54] <poningru> someone refine my poc
[07:54] <elkbuntu> poningru, dont worry for now.. my eyes are just grumpy from taking until 4.15 this morning to get the online surveys up
[07:54] <Burgundavia> can somebody break out that giant chunk of Kubuntu stuff?
[07:54] <dotwaffle> Burgundavia: Yeah, the key is keeping it interesting, which is the hard bit :)
[07:56] <Burgundavia> we can help you with that
[07:56] <elkbuntu> is someone on the kubuntu thing or shoul di start?
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[07:56] <elkbuntu> ok i'll leave it then
[07:57] <Burgundavia> I want that to be at least three seperate paras
[07:58] <elkbuntu> it might be fatigue making me senile, but can someone tell me what g-a-i is :-/
[08:00] <Burgundavia> gnome app install, or Add/Remove
[08:01] <elkbuntu> ah, right
[08:05] <poningru> elkbuntu: I know what you mean, I had to go to sfd early in the morn to setup everything, and then work, on top of all that my roomate and i both have like a 100 degree fever
[08:05] <poningru> dont worry you will probably see that in the vids though ;)
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[08:05] <elkbuntu> poningru, my plan for sfd fell through, which was probably fortunate
[08:10] <dotwaffle> Is Dapper 5 years on the desktop or 3 years and 5 on the server?
[08:10] <elkbuntu> 3 desk 5 server iirc
[08:10] <Madpilot> dotwaffle, 3 desktop, 5 server
[08:10] <dotwaffle> cheers
[08:13] <poningru> yeah
[08:17] <poningru> Burgundavia: how does one figure out the lts updates?
[08:18] <Burgundavia> look at the dapper-changes list
[08:21] <poningru> ah thanks
[08:23] <dotwaffle> "How about some torrent action?" ???
[08:23] <poningru> why not?
[08:23] <dotwaffle> sounds... crass
[08:23] <poningru> its got sazz
[08:23] <poningru> hehe
[08:24] <poningru> edit it away if you want... /me didnt touch it
[08:24] <Burgundavia> hey dotwaffle
[08:24] <dotwaffle> Hey Burgundavia, logged in, reading it top to bototm
[08:25] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[08:26] <elkbuntu> dotwaffle, try work on the part that says: Don't forget quick installation notes, enable extra repository, package name, use g-a-i where possible, etc... (could someone make this comprehensible to mortals?)
[08:26] <elkbuntu> my brain is trying to go on hiatus today i think
[08:28] <dotwaffle> elkbuntu: no problem, just reading the rest, correcting small mistakes etc then will work on it :)
[08:29] <dotwaffle> elkbuntu: line 98?
[08:29] <dotwaffle> must be
[08:29] <elkbuntu> yep
[08:29] <dotwaffle> what do you mean installation notes?
[08:30] <elkbuntu> not entirely sure myself.. i didnt write that part, but i coldnt figure how to make it mortal friendly either
[08:31] <dotwaffle> ok
[08:31] <dotwaffle> just installing new gobby, back in 2 ;)
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[08:33] <Burgundavia> ok, bloody laptop
[08:33] <Burgundavia> back up
[08:33] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu, poningru, dotwaffle
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[08:34] <dotwaffle> ok, this is annoying - just let update-manager run, and gobby will no longer connect, protocol version mismatch. Arg.
[08:34] <Burgundavia> right, new version of gobby
[08:34] <poningru> anyone seen mathewrevell around?
[08:34] <Burgundavia> I have not yet updated
[08:35] <dotwaffle> poningru: I can get in contact with him if it's urgent
[08:35] <poningru> its not
[08:35] <dotwaffle> ok
[08:36] <poningru> thanks though
[08:36] <elkbuntu> he comes in for a bit every other day, life has stolen him from us a bit
[08:36] <dotwaffle> yeha
[08:36] <elkbuntu> anyway, im going to go for a walk to hopefully wake my brain up :|
[08:36] <elkbuntu> catch youse later
[08:36] <poningru> cya
[08:37] <dotwaffle> ok, big bollocks, old gobby no longer exists in the repo...
[08:38] <Burgundavia> just a sec, I might have the .debs still
[08:38] <dotwaffle> thanks
[08:39] <Burgundavia> you are out of luck, I don't have them
[08:39] <dotwaffle> :( backwards compatibility... grunt
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[08:39] <poningru> ouch
[08:39] <poningru> hold on
[08:40] <dotwaffle> never. NEVER let your housemates upgrade a machine while you're working on itl.
[08:40] <elkbuntu> ooh, i havent left yet.. let me find the gobby deb, i havnet upgrade here in days
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[08:40] <dotwaffle> cheers
[08:40] <poningru> it didnt have an update
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[08:41] <elkbuntu> well i guess the dapper version might still work?
[08:41] <dotwaffle> i hope so...
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[08:42] <elkbuntu> http://meldra.no-ip.info:8080/gobby_0.3.0-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
[08:42] <dotwaffle> just changing repos for it
[08:42] <dotwaffle> oh, cheers ;)
[08:42] <elkbuntu> dont dont
[08:42] <elkbuntu> as in, dont change repos ;)
[08:43] <elkbuntu> anyway, have fun, i hope it works, cyas
[08:43] <dotwaffle> cheers
[08:44] <poningru> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/gobby
[08:44] <poningru> ah
[08:45] <poningru> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/gobby
[08:46] <Madpilot> night all
[08:46] <poningru> nn
[08:46] <poningru> err...
[08:48] <dotwaffle> hmmm. Name is already in use - am I still connected to the gobby session?
[08:49] <poningru> yeah you are
[08:49] <dotwaffle> odd. ah well, new name, new colour
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[09:06] <dotwaffle> Anyone here got anything to say about the REVU day? Writing an article for UWN, and can't find much to write about it
[09:09] <poningru> dotwaffle: err hold on it was on the motu list iirc
[09:09] <dotwaffle> cheers - point me somewhere and I'll go write :)
[09:11] <poningru> elkbuntu: http://www.flickr.com/photos/puggles/
[09:12] <dotwaffle> oh crap, that was yesterday, wasn't it?
[09:12] <poningru> hehe yeah
[09:13] <dotwaffle> ah well, at least I'll remember Talk Like A Pirate Day.
[09:13] <poningru> yarr
[09:13] <dotwaffle> Harrrr, install Ubuntu matey!
[09:14] <poningru> http://loadingreadyrun.com/showmovie.php?x=480&y=360&url=talklikepirate.mov
[09:14] <dotwaffle> Nay, not yarrr...
[09:14] <Flannel> matey? TLAPD isn't until tuesday!
[09:15] <dotwaffle> poningru: http://loadingreadyrun.com/showmovie.php?x=480&y=360&url=talklikepirate.mov
[09:15] <dotwaffle> damnit, you got there first ;)
[09:15] <poningru> http://loadingreadyrun.com/movies/talklikepirate.mov
[09:15] <poningru> hehe
[09:15] <dotwaffle> and again
[09:15] <elkbuntu> omfg i didnt know lilo died :(
[09:15] <Flannel> that's an awesome domain name, by the way.
[09:16] <dotwaffle> elkbuntu: yeah, up until about an hour ago, I had a /query open from him :(
[09:16] <elkbuntu> im all sad now
[09:16] <dotwaffle> apparently he was 51... Didn't seem that old...
[09:16] <Flannel> elkbuntu, on the... morbid bright side (or maybe the incessantly optomistic side), it takes the wind out of the 'lets move from freenode' people's sails.
[09:16] <Flannel> dotwaffle: he got hit by a car, age doesn't matter
[09:17] <elkbuntu> Flannel, i dont think that's what he meant
[09:17] <Flannel> fair enough
[09:17] <poningru> yeah the good do die young
[09:18] <elkbuntu> but like... when?
[09:18] <Burgundavia> he was hit by a car on the 12th and has been in a coma since then
[09:18] <dotwaffle> any news on reiser btw?
[09:19] <elkbuntu> since then until <insert time>?
[09:19] <elkbuntu> like, yesterday or today or what?
[09:19] <poningru> elkbuntu: yesterday
[09:19] <poningru> on sfd
[09:19] <elkbuntu> :(
[09:19] <poningru> local time
[09:21] <dotwaffle> right, I'm going to get a shower, I've got to go to Manchester in ~40 minutes to meet with a client. Yes, on a Sunday.
[09:22] <dotwaffle> toodles
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[09:26] <Klaidas> go to bed
[09:26] <Burgundavia> poningru: go to bed, I can finish it
[09:26] <poningru> :)
[09:26] <poningru> thanks
[09:26] <poningru> nn
[09:26] <poningru> I still cant figure out what else to add
[09:27] <poningru> I was scouring google news for more...
[09:27] <poningru> anyway nn
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[10:35] <Burgundavia> ok, that is really odd, we just had a huge list of 150 unsubscribed
[10:35] <Burgundavia> from -news
[10:51] <elkbuntu> wow, in the past few hours?
[10:51] <Burgundavia> yep
[10:52] <Flannel> what'd you do to offend them? ;)
[10:52] <Burgundavia> heh
[10:52] <elkbuntu> i still havent subscribed to it yet either
[10:52] <Burgundavia> that many must be a glitch
[10:52] <Burgundavia> tbh, I am not subscribed to ubuntu-news
[10:52] <Burgundavia> anyway, is 2am here
[10:52] <elkbuntu> lol
[10:53] <Burgundavia> going to delay until tomorrow monring
[10:53] <elkbuntu> ok, night corey
[10:53] <elkbuntu> good idea
[10:53] <Burgundavia> feel free to edit
[10:53] <Burgundavia> back in teh wiki
[10:53] <elkbuntu> yep
[10:53] <elkbuntu> it's going to be a looong night on here (freenode) i think
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[11:47] <elkbuntu> bwahahaha.. the surveys are working in ways i had not thought of: <hantoo> i gave some thoughts on the 'how are you contributing to the community' .. i should start doing something =)
[11:55] <Klaidas> :-D
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[03:01] <John-Coffehouse> morning
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[04:46] <free_attitude> hello
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[05:17] <lophyte> hry nixternal
[05:17] <nixternal> hry
[05:18] <nixternal> good
[05:18] <lophyte> ..hey, too
[05:18] <lophyte> :P
[05:18] <nixternal> i forgot to answer first .;)
[05:18] <lophyte> we had an excellent SFD event yesterday
[05:20] <lophyte> ubuntu toronto is officially kicked off :)
[05:26] <free_attitude> hello again
[05:26] <free_attitude> i was off my computer for a while :)
[05:26] <free_attitude> anyone here who is active in ubuntu magazine team?
[05:28] <nixternal> there is no ubuntu magazine anymore
[05:28] <nixternal> that rocks lophyte!
[05:29] <lophyte> indeed :)
[05:29] <lophyte> thanks for the help and such starting me off
[05:29] <nixternal> heh, don't know what i did, but kool!
[05:32] <free_attitude> ok
[05:32] <free_attitude> thanks
[05:33] <free_attitude> i wanted to help
[05:33] <free_attitude> I am FLOSS journalist :)
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[05:35] <nixternal> well
[05:35] <nixternal> there are plenty of otherways to help as well
[05:35] <nixternal> we have the fridge...which is the reason why there isn't a magazine anymore
[05:37] <poningru> should I not upgrade gobby?
[05:37] <poningru> dotwaffle ^^^
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[05:59] <elkbuntu> free_attitude, where do you do journalism for?
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[07:05] <free_attitude> I am from Serbia
[07:06] <free_attitude> write for several maazines here
[07:06] <free_attitude> about FLOSS
[07:06] <free_attitude> I am also editor in chief of the electonic magazine about FS in serbian
[07:06] <free_attitude> called GNUzilla
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[07:12] <adamant1988> hello all
[07:12] <lophyte> hey adamant1988!
[07:13] <adamant1988> wow... such emotion... do I know you lophyte ?
[07:13] <lophyte> yes :P
[07:13] <lophyte> I guess you don't remember me
[07:13] <adamant1988> probably not.. I'm tired..
[07:14] <lophyte> we spoke briefly a while ago about business ideas and spreading ubuntu
[07:14] <adamant1988> aha
[07:15] <adamant1988> well, I'm actually working on that right now still :)
[07:15] <lophyte> cool
[07:18] <lophyte> I'm still not exactly sure how to go about it
[07:18] <adamant1988> well right now, I'm simply doing this
[07:18] <adamant1988> giving out free computers.
[07:18] <lophyte> how do you manage that?
[07:19] <adamant1988> I'm collecting older hardware that people aren't using anymore, loading Ubuntu or some other light distribution on it (depending on what the hardware can run) and giving it away for free.
[07:19] <adamant1988> eventually, I'll start collecting money on the service expenses because I have a local monopoly on linux service.
[07:20] <lophyte> its hard to have a local monopoly on linux service in Toronto ;)
[07:21] <lophyte> I recently started the Ubuntu Toronto LoCo team though
[07:21] <lophyte> we held a celebration for Software Freedom Day yesterday and handed out a good 100 CDs and had demos and such
[07:21] <adamant1988> yeah, I'm working on starting a loco team here in Elkins.
[07:21] <lophyte> we started a week ago and have about 12 people involved
[07:22] <adamant1988> nice
[07:24] <poningru> adamant1988: a nice thing to do is go to the local govt auction
[07:26] <adamant1988> yeah, we won't be having those for a while
[07:29] <poningru> adamant1988: arr?
[07:29] <adamant1988> they do all of them on the court house steps
[07:29] <adamant1988> it's getting close to winter and it's raining a lot.
[07:30] <adamant1988> I seriously don't want to by a computer that's been through all that -_-
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[08:35] <Burgundavia> anybody around?
[08:41] <poningru> yeah
[08:41] <poningru> whatsup?
[08:41] <poningru> Burgundavia: can we have a sobby server running somewhere?
[08:42] <poningru> and sync with wiki every now and then?
[08:42] <Burgundavia> nope, but I can get one up
[08:42] <poningru> Burgundavia: I can do that now :)
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[08:43] <poningru> Burgundavia: running sobby where?
[08:43] <Burgundavia> up in a sec
[08:44] <dotwaffle> poningru: The latest gobby in edgy is NOT backwards compatible with the gobby in dapper. So no, not yet.
[08:45] <Burgundavia> I have not yet updated
[08:45] <Burgundavia> so I still have the old version
[08:45] <poningru> oh wtf
[08:45] <poningru> crap
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[08:45] <poningru> do I have to remove the libs as well?
[08:45] <Burgundavia> likely
[08:46] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue14?
[08:46] <dotwaffle> poningru: The way I ahd to do it was change /etc/apt/sources.list to dapper, uninstall gobby through aptitude (hence, getting rid of all dependencies of it) then reinstall it, then move back to edgy.
[08:56] <poningru> dotwaffle: or take advantage of the autoremove functionality in apt-get now ;)
[08:57] <dotwaffle> poningru: Oh, that's good :) I've been using that feature in aptitude for a while, didn't realise it was now active in apt-get too =)
[08:58] <poningru> thanks man
[09:00] <dotwaffle> no probs
[09:02] <poningru> Burgundavia: I just got disconnected
[09:03] <Burgundavia> gobby just bloody died
[09:03] <poningru> ah yeah we need a sobby server
[09:03] <Burgundavia> that we do
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[09:04] <poningru> if you are busy I can set one up here
[09:04] <poningru> more than happy to btw
[09:05] <Burgundavia> no, pissed of 'cause I just lost a bunch of work
[09:05] <Burgundavia> and now gobby will not start
[09:05] <poningru> I think I have your work actually hold on
[09:06] <poningru> can you give an example of what you worked on?
[09:06] <Burgundavia> last piece was a copy to the kde section
[09:06] <Burgundavia> adding kdepim 3.80.1
[09:07] <Burgundavia> please say you have it, otherwise I will be pissed
[09:07] <poningru> let me see
[09:09] <poningru> The KDE4 packages mentioned last week began arriving in the archive this week. Jonathon Riddell uploaded kdebase 3.80.1, kdepimlibs 3.80.1 and kdelibs 3.80.1, the basis for the rest of KDE, which is expected over the next few weeks.
[09:09] <poningru> ?
[09:09] <poningru> if so then yeah i do have it
[09:09] <poningru> grr gobby just died on me too
[09:09] <Burgundavia> fuck
[09:09] <Burgundavia> sorry
[09:10] <Burgundavia> did you save it?
[09:10] <poningru> yeah i did
[09:10] <Burgundavia> perfect, can you email it to me?
[09:11] <poningru> i will upload it to wiki
[09:11] <Burgundavia> right
[09:11] <Burgundavia> gobby coming down
[09:11] <Burgundavia> I think these crashes are related to at-spi
[09:12] <poningru> k
[09:13] <poningru> sent
[09:17] <Riddell> actually I uploaded them ages ago, they just seem to be sporadically approved through NEW
[09:18] <poningru> hehe
[09:18] <poningru> Burgundavia: if you are having trouble starting gobby back up
[09:19] <poningru> I can host it
[09:19] <poningru> not that, it will help much... since you will still be out...
[09:19] <poningru> 70.171.62.28
[09:19] <poningru> 6522
[09:20] <Burgundavia> right, I am going back to the wiki
[09:20] <poningru> ok yeah that seems like a good idea
[09:21] <poningru> Burgundavia: try deleting your .gobby in ~
[09:22] <Burgundavia> apparently it was cleared
[09:22] <poningru> err the wiki seems...
[09:23] <poningru> empty
[09:24] <Burgundavia> copy your content voer
[09:28] <poningru> k
[09:33] <Burgundavia> poningru: sorry, I keep hitting refresh, but that keeps reverting
[09:33] <Burgundavia> I am sorry
[09:34] <poningru> sok
[09:35] <poningru> btw whats feature of the week?
[09:35] <Burgundavia> no idea
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[10:05] <Burgundavia> poningru: I am headed up for a few hours, work on it on the wiki and I will finish the release when I get back
[10:06] <poningru> k
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[11:35] <poningru> Burgundavia: broke that giant thing into pieces
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