[12:00] <mad_man> :-)
[12:00] <Gumby> or possibly what packages are needed to configure X.  I;m starting with a base server install and keeping it slim but I do need X for what I am using it for
[12:01] <gimmulf> __krugger__:  hmm doesnt work, still same error :/ cant understans whats wrong
[12:01] <thelsdj> ya so trying to track down where thats created, i wonder if this is a bug with latest screen package with edgy or something
[12:02] <sethk> gimmulf, paste the mount command you are using, and we'll tell you what's wrong with it.
[12:02] <Gumby> gimmulf: you have your syntax mixed up.  its /dev/xxx and then your mount/point
[12:02] <Gumby> its /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2 not /mnt/hdb2 /dev/hdb2
[12:02] <mad_man> __krugger__: yes/no/maybe i wood like to delete a partiton and add that to another partition with a o/s on it. can this be done ?
[12:03] <jazzrocker> yes... one must mount a device... you can't mount folders
[12:03] <gimmulf> sethk: Gumby    Im using mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2 tried the other way to
[12:03] <nanno> is there any way to change evolutions date format??
[12:03] <sethk> gimmulf, as long as you don't include the file system type, it will tell you that you didn't include the file system type
[12:03] <thelsdj> is there a better channel to ask questions about edgy?
[12:03] <__krugger__> mad_man if the partition you are adding is after the partition with the OS it might work
[12:03] <sethk> sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2
[12:03] <Gumby> gimmulf: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2 (asuming it is ext3)
[12:03] <gimmulf> sethk:  i tried -t auto also
[12:03] <__krugger__> madman: but if it is before you will find it difficult
[12:03] <vorbote> thelsdj: #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <sethk> gimmulf,   sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2
[12:04] <gimmulf> sethk:  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb2,
[12:04] <sethk> gimmulf, if it is ext2.  it would help if you pasted your actual mount command
[12:04] <__krugger__> mad_man: as the superbloc has to be in the start of the partition
[12:04] <sethk> gimmulf, ok, probably it isn't ext2.  could it be ext3?
[12:04] <Gumby> ext2 will still mount an ext3 device
[12:04] <gimmulf> sethk:  sethk  same error on ext3
[12:04] <gimmulf> sethk:  i think its ext2
[12:04] <Gumby> gimmulf: what kind of partition is this?
[12:04] <Gumby> nm
[12:04] <__krugger__> gimmulf: try -t auto to see if it works
[12:04] <sethk> gimmulf, then it isn't ext2 and it isn't ext3, or it's completely damaged.
[12:05] <gimmulf> Gumby:  normal partition on a hd with some files
[12:05] <nanno> hw does one change the time format in evolution??
[12:05] <Gumby> gimmulf: define "normal"
[12:05] <nanno> hw = how
[12:05] <Gumby> gimmulf: what distro/os?
[12:05] <gimmulf> ubuntu
[12:05] <mad_man> __krugger__: partiton is before.
[12:05] <Gumby> its probably damaged then
[12:05] <gimmulf> :<
[12:05] <cornflake> how do i manage the startup scripts? i'm trying to put in my own custom script
[12:06] <sethk> gimmulf, there are only a couple of possibilities.  either it isn't really hdb2, or it isn't really ext2 or ext3, or it is damaged.
[12:06] <__krugger__> gimmulf: try to fsck it, to see if can be repaired
[12:06] <sethk> gimmulf, well, three possibilities
[12:06] <nature> Does ubunut supports nvidia drivers?
[12:06] <CromagDK> jup
[12:06] <Flannel> nature: yeah
[12:06] <gimmulf> how do i find out which /dev/ it is then?
[12:06] <sethk> nature, yes
[12:06] <Flannel> !tell nature about nvidia
[12:06] <__krugger__> mad_man: than you probably will have trouble joining them
[12:06] <sethk> gimmulf, fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[12:07] <__krugger__> nature: yes, nividia drivers are available
[12:07] <epiloc> !!!!!!!
[12:07] <gimmulf> sethk:  Cannot open /dev/hdb
[12:07] <gimmulf> sethk:  ahh sudo did it
[12:07] <epiloc> For the love of god, why must my ISP block incoming port 80
[12:07] <__krugger__> gimmulf: you have to put the partition numer
[12:07] <Hor|zon> lol epiloc
[12:07] <__krugger__> gimmulf: like hda2
[12:08] <mad_man> __krugger__: more trouble thans it's worth then ? no rush here | i will do some reading on this matter
[12:08] <sethk> __krugger__, no, not for fdisk
[12:08] <__krugger__> gimmulf: or in your case hbd2
[12:08] <sethk> __krugger__, no, not for fdisk
[12:08] <djm62> epiloc: are you trying to run website?
[12:08] <epiloc> yes
[12:08] <epiloc> Is there anyway I can have my dns servers point to my IP on a different port?
[12:09] <__krugger__> mad_man: most partitions can be increased by pulling the end, I don't think you can mess witht he start
[12:09] <epiloc> so I dont have to tell everyone, "go to www.my.com:324"
[12:09] <epiloc> ?
[12:09] <sethk> epiloc, no, assuming that port 80 is already in use for some other purpose.
[12:09] <__krugger__> mad_man: but maybe there are ways I don't know about :)
[12:09] <xipietotec> uhoh....why is my xorg.conf file blank?
[12:10] <sethk> xipietotec, it shouldn't be.  if you tried to edit it as a normal use, it might look that way
[12:10] <djm62> xipietotec: what did you type/do to find that out?
[12:10] <epiloc> sethk, there is no way to have www.mysite.com automativally route to a port other than 80?
[12:10] <xipietotec> I used the sudo nano /ext/X11/xorg.conf
[12:10] <gimmulf> __krugger__:  http://pastie.caboo.se/13612
[12:10] <sethk> epiloc, at the DNS level, no.
[12:10] <sorush20>  Shaun Jackman around?
[12:10] <eternalswd> what package do I need to install for python headers?
[12:10] <mad_man> __krugger__: maybe there is a way to have a partition jump over to the rear of a nother partition :-)
[12:10] <sethk> epiloc, you can of course route 80 to some other port, but that's why I said "assuming port 80 is already in use for some other purpose)
[12:11] <xipietotec> etc, not ext
[12:11] <xipietotec> err, wait, yeah I did use ext
[12:11] <xipietotec> nevermind
[12:11] <epiloc> sethk, so if my ISP is blocking all incoming port 80 traffic, am i screwed?
[12:11] <djm62> xipietotec: with that capitalisation?
[12:11] <sethk> eternalswd, search for packages in synaptic using the search string            python dev
[12:11] <sethk> eternalswd, that's python space dev
[12:12] <xipietotec> nevermind, I created a blank file accidently
[12:12] <sethk> epiloc, yes
[12:12] <__krugger__> mad_man: you don't seem to have a boot partition. If it is only data you could send all the files to another place and delete both partitions to make a big one.
[12:12] <epiloc> sethk, what i had port 80 trigger say port 321 and hosted it on that port
[12:12] <Gumby> anyone here know how to configure X via command line?  someone mentioned xf86conf but I dont have that command nor can I seem to find what package it belong to
[12:12] <__krugger__> mad_man: and then copy the data back
[12:12] <Arrick> your ISP shouldnt be blocking anything on port 80
[12:12] <Hor|zon> yeah, his isp sucks
[12:12] <epiloc> Arrick they are blocking all incoming requests
[12:12] <sethk> Gumby, xf86conf is from xfree86, which was replaced by xorg
[12:12] <djm62> xipietotec: if you don't know about tab-completion, if you press tab it will autocomplete as much as it can for commands or filepaths
[12:12] <Arrick> wow
[12:12] <eternalswd> thanks sethk
[12:12] <epiloc> so I cant host a basic website from home
[12:12] <__krugger__> Gumby: try Xorg -configure should give you a base to start
[12:13] <Arrick> yes yo can
[12:13] <Gumby> sethk: I figured as much, but it was all I had to go on
[12:13] <sethk> epiloc, that's exactly what your ISP iss trying to stop you from doing.
[12:13] <Gumby> lol
[12:13] <Opinie> does anyone know if the upcoming version of ubuntu will have some kind of support for intel macs?
[12:13] <djm62> xipietotec: it can save you from many typos
[12:13] <Arrick> use the redirect that you can get for free from www.No-ip.com
[12:13] <epiloc> yeah but the point of having a simple .com is lost when it is.com:321
[12:13] <mad_man> stress = a <ZZZZZZ## ~~~~
[12:13] <Flannel> Opinie: what's lacking in the current one?
[12:13] <sethk> epiloc, you can relay the traffic through a machine somewhere else on the 'net, but not without using some other server that does the magic
[12:13] <Arrick> there is also a dynamic update client for most OS as well
[12:14] <__krugger__> epiloc: you could port forward with iptables if you had a server somewhere
[12:14] <sethk> epiloc, so you have to resolve your domain to another box on the net, and then on that box it's possibly to relay to your box
[12:14] <epiloc> sethk, any ideas on where to look?
[12:14] <Opinie> Flannel: it seems that it's going to be - atleast for me - to install ubuntu for my new macbook
[12:14] <eternalswd> how long does it usually take for critical security updates for firefox to reach the repos?
[12:14] <sethk> epiloc, didn't someone give you a url a minute ago?
[12:14] <Opinie> Flannel: *hard
[12:14] <nature> which gcc has ubuntu?
[12:14] <sethk> epiloc, note, it's possible that your ISP is blocking all incoming connections, not just port 80.
[12:14] <Arrick> sethk, I use no-ip.com to route my multiple web sites to my server, through different ports, and you can forward them to whatever port you want, called a port 80 redirect
[12:14] <__krugger__> nature: gcc 4
[12:15] <sethk> Arrick, yes, I know, that's precisely what I advised him to do.
[12:15] <Arrick> sethk, how can they block all if you can run messenger, you can run through that port as well
[12:15] <epiloc> Arrick, but doesnt the user have to type in the domain you get from no-ip.com?
[12:15] <sethk> Arrick, you cannot do it at the DNS level.
[12:15] <Arrick> no
[12:15] <Hor|zon> blocking all incoming connections wouldn't make sense
[12:15] <sethk> Arrick, they can block messenger if they choose to.
[12:15] <Arrick> you can register your domain name
[12:15] <sethk> Arrick, that's how they can block all.
[12:15] <epiloc> sethk, my site works fine from port 400
[12:15] <sethk> Arrick, of course, so what?
[12:15] <sethk> epiloc, ok, then your isp isn't blocking all ports, which is good.
[12:15] <epiloc> yes
[12:16] <Arrick> you are talking here, so apparently they arent blocking all ports
[12:16] <__krugger__> :)
[12:16] <sethk> epiloc, check the sweb site arrick talked about
[12:16] <sethk> Arrick, you aren't listening.  I have a completely open class C network, I don't even have an ISP
[12:16] <sethk> Arrick, I was answering a question for someone else.
[12:16] <Arrick> oh ok
[12:16] <sethk> epiloc, I think arrick gave you a URL for a service that does the relaying.
[12:16] <Arrick> how are you on the net?
[12:16] <Arrick> yes I did epiloc
[12:16] <Hor|zon> ...
[12:17] <sethk> Arrick, the same way any other ISP is on the net
[12:17] <__krugger__> Anyone know a lot about xkb?
[12:17] <epiloc> sethk, arrick, I have an account with no-ip.com, that just redirects traffic from strange.domain.name.com to www.mysite.com
[12:17] <Hor|zon> ok let's stop the pointless argument...
[12:17] <sethk> epiloc, ok, then that's not the site, but servers do exist.
[12:17] <epiloc> sethk, Arrick , so that defeats the whole purpose of having a .com
[12:17] <sethk> epiloc, that site is for people who do not have a static IP
[12:17] <epiloc> aah
[12:17] <epiloc> hmm
[12:17] <sethk> epiloc, to a point, yes.
[12:18] <itsme> can ubuntu be installed on a new built machine from the cd off the website ?
[12:18] <Arrick> get the paid one, cost little money, and you can put your regular one on there so it redirets to your current IP to whatever port you want
[12:18] <sethk> epiloc, but as I said, your ISP is trying to block you, so you have to relay.
[12:18] <chopchop_> hi, after i did an apt-get upgrade, restart, then when startx, i got 'FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/nvidia.ko' : no such file or directory', im using a celeron D, nvidea video card.
[12:18] <phaedrus44> i am missing /dev/video ..how do i get it?
[12:18] <epiloc> Arrick, i didnt know that... ill check it out
[12:18] <__krugger__> itsme: yes
[12:18] <sethk> epiloc, the fact that you are using a server somewhere on the 'net to relay is not visible to people who navigate to your site.
[12:18] <Opinie> Flannel: So do you know if the upcoming version of ubuntu will make it easier for me to install ubuntu on my macbook?
[12:18] <Flannel> Opinie: well, people have done it, so it's doable... as for not having to tweak stuff to do it, I'm not sure.  googling shows: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183472  and you'll need some additional stuff (there's a link in that thread) about EFI support
[12:18] <Flannel> Opinie: that's on dapper, by the way.
[12:19] <xipietotec> is the GDM file the xorg.conf file?
[12:19] <itsme> ty :) I plan on putting it on my  new machine and was concerned about my hardware working
[12:19] <__krugger__> xipietotec, nope
[12:19] <Flannel> Opinie: there's also this: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page  which appears to have a revised Dapper ISO with elilo
[12:19] <xipietotec> okay, where's the main file for GDM located?
[12:19] <__krugger__> xipietotec, there should be a gdm.conf
[12:19] <Hor|zon> sethk, actually I think No-Ip.com does do port 80 redirects but you have to pay a subscription for the privilege
[12:19] <TokenBad> I still haven't fixed my hard drive problem
[12:19] <djm62> Opinie: the next version will almost certainly aim to be better than the current version in many ways.  I'd imagine that macbooks are a priority for someone
[12:20] <Arrick> epiloc, yeah, that where the domain www.GHAPS.org it routed through
[12:20] <epiloc> Hor|zon, you are right, i was thinking of a different site
[12:20] <chaos_> if a program were to become unresponsive, is there a way to end it in the gnome gui?
[12:20] <xipietotec> 'kay....before I restart, will someone take a look at this guide and see if there's anything that leaps out at them that will crash my computer hard?
[12:20] <Opinie> djm62: oh ok that would certainly be nice...
[12:20] <xipietotec> http://pihbar.wordpress.com/2006/08/29/compiz-and-aiglx-on-ubuntu-606/
[12:20] <djm62> chaos_: xkill
[12:20] <epiloc> Arrick, which subscription package will do what i want?
[12:21] <epiloc> im lookin on no-ip, its kind od vague
[12:21] <phaedrus44> hey tokeBad:   wussup bro
[12:21] <octan> is ther a gui  tool for seting up runlevels ?
[12:21] <octan> i mean what to startup and not to startup ... stuff like that
[12:21] <SeanTater> octan: ksysv is one
[12:21] <djm62> chaos_: if you right-click on the panel, "Add to panel" "Force Quit"
[12:21] <deep> What are these '.so'-libfiles called "in real term"?
[12:21] <Arrick> hang on epiloc
[12:22] <__krugger__> Still looking for someone that knows a bit about xkb.
[12:22] <tedivm> hello ubuntu friends
[12:22] <deep> HI THX-1138
[12:22] <tedivm> i have this issue
[12:22] <deep> Oops
[12:22] <djm62> chaos_: and you can shoot down recidivists like a pro
[12:22] <tedivm> my sound is working, but its working very crappily
[12:22] <Hor|zon> epiloc, you need the manageddns account
[12:22] <tedivm> i'm running alsa
[12:22] <Hor|zon> no-Ip plus or something
[12:22] <deep> tedivm: Crappy how?
[12:22] <gbutler69> Does anyone know if there is a tool to restrict running of various programs to certain time of day for certain accounts?
[12:23] <tedivm> okay, you know how it sounds when you take a computer and put crappy speakers in and then turn them up to much so its all distorted and such?
[12:23] <tedivm> thats how it sounds, like always
[12:23] <Arrick> epiloc, no-ip plus is 24.95 for up to 5 domains
[12:23] <__krugger__> gbutler69, that brings you to SELinux patches, where you can define policies
[12:23] <ChocoCid> gbutler69 : sounds like cron or anacron
[12:23] <tedivm> i prefer the dyndns people over no-ip
[12:23] <THX-1138> Hi
[12:23] <deep> tedivm: U're using gnome, right?
[12:23] <tedivm> but i went to school with them so yea
[12:23] <Arrick> dyndns is out of business ted
[12:23] <tedivm> deep, yppers
[12:23] <Arrick> dyndns is out of business tedivm
[12:23] <tedivm> damn
[12:23] <tedivm> poor bastards
[12:23] <__krugger__> :)
[12:23] <epiloc> Arrick, 24.95 /mo?
[12:23] <Hor|zon> really!?
[12:24] <Hor|zon> wow
[12:24] <chaos_> is there a text-editor that supports coding and compiling?
[12:24] <Hor|zon> lol not monthly...no way that's monthly
[12:24] <__krugger__> chaos_: like emacs or vim for example
[12:24] <deep> tedivm: I know theres a 'handle' in kmix that you'll need to drag down,
[12:24] <ChocoCid> chaos_ : vi, emacs?
[12:24] <tedivm> looks like its up from here
[12:24] <Hor|zon> if that's monthly run a mile
[12:24] <tedivm> deep, huh?
[12:24] <Arrick> sorry, wrong site, I had a type when I foudn that one thats out tedivm
[12:24] <Hor|zon> it's yearly epiloc
[12:24] <deep> tedivm: W8
[12:24] <epiloc> i just saw that
[12:24] <epiloc> hmm
[12:24] <THX-1138> dyndns OoB - sad - lesson learned support services you use by purchasing their service
[12:25] <xipietotec> okay....that makes me nervous, the guide says to modify gdm.conf...and the gdm file says don't fucking do that
[12:25] <SeanTater> Arrick: dyndns is out of business? I use it..
[12:25] <tedivm> Yea, just so you all know, dyndns is NOT out of business
[12:25] <tedivm> nice try though
[12:25] <DBO> xipietotec, installing xgl?
[12:25] <Arrick> SeanTater, read my last
[12:25] <epiloc> the managed DNS package offers tons of features, i just need the port 80 redirection
[12:25] <ompaul> !language
[12:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:25] <THX-1138> i miss Loki porting games to linux - really sad
[12:25] <xipietotec> DBO: Aiglx
[12:25] <DBO> xipietotec, meet me in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:25] <Hor|zon> it does port 80 redirection
[12:25] <Hor|zon> http://www.no-ip.com/services/managed_dns/plus_dynamic_dns.html
[12:25] <deep> tedivm: If you start alsamixer (in a terminal) and drag down 'PCM' a little, better?
[12:25] <Arrick> DBO, whatupp
[12:25] <Hor|zon> wait..
[12:25] <nature> ubuntu is easy to use?
[12:25] <SeanTater> Arrick: okay
[12:25] <Gumby> Ive been using and continue using dyndns for years
[12:26] <sr__> lilo died?
[12:26] <__krugger__> THX-1138, I saw someone play Neverwinter nights a few days ago in ubuntu
[12:26] <SeanTater> nature: yes, generally
[12:26] <SeanTater> sr__: see #freenode-announce
[12:26] <octan> SeanTater, dude.. thats about one of the most bugy apps ihv seen..
[12:26] <lupine_85> Neverwinter Nights++
[12:26] <Hor|zon> epiloc, it says the free domains can do it so the plus account must be able to
[12:26] <SeanTater> Gumby, so do I
[12:26] <lupine_85> native client :)
[12:26] <SeanTater> octan: okay
[12:26] <THX-1138> _kruger_ - Yes, Cedega isn't perfect but i subscribe.
[12:26] <kovan> why do i get "the file is not a sound stream" when importing mp3s to my library in Rhythmbox??
[12:27] <tedivm> deep, that helps a lot, thank you
[12:27] <octan> SeanTater, do you know of any other?
[12:27] <SeanTater> octan: it;s not gui, but initNG's ngc is neat
[12:27] <Hor|zon> epiloc, the free accounts can only do it witht he no-ip.com domains though, so I'm assuming fi you can add your own domain with the plus account it should be able to do it with that
[12:27] <Hor|zon> I dunno...try emailing customer services?
[12:27] <SeanTater> octan: but you have to have a special init for that
[12:27] <tedivm> kovan, where did you get the mp3's from?
[12:27] <shiv> any bibus users here?
[12:27] <octan> i know what initNG is :)
[12:27] <tedivm> like, i had that issue when importing songs i bought off of itunes
[12:27] <deep> =)
[12:27] <tedivm> which is making me feel better about not paying for music
[12:27] <THX-1138> < Can't afford $250 per yr. but i make a donation.
[12:27] <octan> SeanTater, but thats irellevant now
[12:28] <SeanTater> octan: okay -- but I know of no others
[12:28] <epiloc> Hor|zon, dynip pro does exactly what i need it to do
[12:28] <SeanTater> shiv: never heard of bibus
[12:28] <SeanTater> deep :)
[12:28] <deep> SeanTater: =D
[12:28] <sethk> epiloc, good
[12:29] <kovan> tedivm: i ripped them, could be the fact that they are in VBR the problem?
[12:29] <UKMatt> can anyone help me set up flash?
[12:29] <shiv> SeanTater: Thats okay just inquiring. Its a bibliographic database software
[12:29] <lupine_85> !flashinstaller-nonfree
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashinstaller-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <SeanTater> UKMatt: probably, what do you need?
[12:29] <Hor|zon> epiloc, yeah, i just saw the more info link
[12:29] <deep> Can i find specific libraryfiles with apt-get ?
[12:29] <tedivm> kovan, how knew is this ubuntu install?
[12:29] <hiiiii>     _____
[12:29] <hiiiii>  _/ __|_\__O/  LOL
[12:29] <hiiiii> |          \\   @
[12:29] <hiiiii> [`-()----()-'/\ LILO
[12:29] <hiiiii> lilo was killed when he defended the pizza delivery boy who was about to be robbed
[12:29] <SeanTater> lupine_85:  !restricted
[12:29] <UKMatt> seantater, i have the flash 7 tarball but i don't know how to put it on so that i can view in firefox (swiftfox)
[12:29] <Hor|zon> ...
[12:29] <epiloc> Hor|zon, Arrick , sethk,  if I simply need a server out on the net to redirrect mysite.com to mysite.com:81, cant anyone ouside of my network running ubunutu do this ?  :)
[12:29] <kovan> tedivm: brand new
[12:29] <THX-1138> !flood
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:29] <tedivm> i know you need to install the mp3 stuff seperately
[12:29] <tedivm> hold on a second
[12:30] <SeanTater> UKMatt: you should not need a tarball
[12:30] <SeanTater> UKMatt: use apt
[12:30] <kovan> ok
[12:30] <UKMatt> seantater, and do what?
[12:30] <Hor|zon> yes but they'd need to be only perminently...when they're offline your site is too
[12:30] <SeanTater> UKMatt: say !apt
[12:30] <Hor|zon> online*
[12:30] <epiloc> Hor|zon, ,right...
[12:30] <THX-1138> Welcome Back Jack_Sparrow :)
[12:30] <yarddog> anyone have an idea why this flashplugin isnt working in firefox? i installed and followed directions.
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi,
[12:30] <Hor|zon> and they need a static ip too
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Just stopped in for a minute or two..
[12:30] <Meglo> I have a problem with acne vulgaris I was wondering if anyone knew of any potions a witch my make that can cure it?
[12:30] <SeanTater> !apt > UKMatt
[12:31] <kovan> btw, flash 9 is available for ubuntu?
[12:31] <THX-1138> THX beu
[12:31] <Meglo> flash 9 is being developed isn't it?
[12:31] <SeanTater> Meglo: use #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <UKMatt> seantater, well i know how to use it, but i've already installed the flashplugin-nonfree and it doesnt work
[12:31] <Meglo> for linux.
[12:31] <epiloc> hmm, anyone have a dedicated box can redirect some traffic for me?
[12:31] <UKMatt> seantater, the mozplugin too
[12:31] <Hor|zon> epiloc, I'd rather pay $30 a year for something reliable
[12:31] <SeanTater> UKMatt: try running update-flashplugin in a terminal
[12:31] <steveire> is it possible to browse a particular repository in my sources list?
[12:32] <Arrick> yes
[12:32] <Hor|zon> but if you don't keep the site long it might be a waste
[12:32] <SeanTater> steveire: yes
[12:32] <yarddog> what tool do i need for the update-flashplugin? it says command not found
[12:32] <UKMatt> seantater, update-flashplugin isn't a command, but i'm pretty sure its up to date anyways
[12:32] <Arrick> but you have to get the DNS to redirect it to that server as we
[12:32] <eternalswd> currently the only way to run flash 9 on linux is through wine or other similar programs, but flash 9 should be natively available near the beginning of 2007
[12:32] <THX-1138> !steveire > apt
[12:32] <Arrick> ll
[12:32] <tedivm> kovan, do this - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:32] <SeanTater> steveire: just paste the url you see in sources.list into a web browser
[12:32] <Flannel> kovan: flash 9 isn't out on linux yet
[12:32] <steveire> THX-1138: That's !apt > steveire.
[12:33] <steveire> ah. cool, thanks/
[12:33] <THX-1138> heh - okay.
[12:33] <linuchsan> epiloc:take a look at http://freedns.afraid.org/
[12:33] <ChocoCid> What's the easiest way to make a keyboard combination load up gnome-system-monitor? it doesn't seem to be in keyboard shortucts
[12:33] <cparker> i keep getting an error 509 from security.ubuntu.com... is that server down?
[12:33] <kovan> tedivm: thank you, great page
[12:33] <hiiiii>     _____
[12:33] <hiiiii>  _/ __|_\__O/  LOL
[12:33] <hiiiii> |          \\   @
[12:33] <hiiiii> [`-()----()-'/\ LILO
[12:33] <hiiiii> lilo was killed when he defended the pizza delivery boy who was about to be robbed
[12:33] <hiiiii> please donate to the benjamin levin pizza fund so he can eat and be fat like lilo
[12:33] <epiloc> linuchsan, i looked at them last night, wasnt sure if they can do what i need
[12:34] <__krugger__> cparker, I just hit security.ubuntu.com without a problem
[12:35] <Arrick> thank you
[12:35] <tedivm> hmm, i don't know about the rest of you, but i'm wondering why making fun of a dead man is a killable offense
[12:35] <cparker> right, i can visit the server, but i cannot download packages from there...
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Offtopic
[12:35] <Arrick> tedivm, its very uncool
[12:35] <ChocoCid> seems like the ubuntu.com sites are getting slammed
[12:35] <JamieBE> Hi all - I'm trying to build a website here and I will need to do a whole load of batch image processing, including resizing, batch renaming and thumbnail creating, does anyone know of some apps that might help me?
[12:35] <ChocoCid> i can't load up wiki.ubuntu.com right now :\
[12:35] <SeanTater> cparker: I /think/ there are mirrors of the security repository, try them
[12:35] <Flannel> tedivm: spam, for one thing, more ubuntu-centric however is the code of conduct
[12:35] <Hor|zon> hey epiloc, http://freedns.afraid.org/ seems to do what you want
[12:35] <ChocoCid> er, ok, it just took me 59 seconds to load it according to fasterfox =\
[12:35] <SeanTater> cparker: if you live in the US, ftp.osusls.org is a good one
[12:35] <ajwasek> does ubuntu not come with a cpp compiler?
[12:36] <cparker> i keep getting a tcp error 509, whether i try to install the latest kernel or amarok.
[12:36] <Flannel> ajwasek: build-essential is the package you'll need
[12:36] <tedivm> its uncool, yea, but on every irc netowkr i've fun they've always let channel shit happen in the channel- ie, an op in here should have spanked him
[12:36] <SeanTater> ajwasek: install it with apt
[12:36] <cparker> SeanTater: thanks :)
[12:36] <nalioth> ajwasek: install the pkg 'build-essential'
[12:36] <THX-1138> cparker - /var/cache/apt/archives  ??
[12:36] <Flannel> ajwasek: (sudo apt-get install build-essential) or via your favorite package manager frontend
[12:36] <tedivm> this is personal opinion though, i really don't care that much
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: I know of one but it runs under windows
[12:36] <ajwasek> thanks so much :)
[12:36] <DBO> tedivm, they beat me to it sorry
[12:36] <__krugger__> http error 509 is bandwidth exceeded
[12:36] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow - Hardly a solution eh bud? :)
[12:36] <epiloc> Hor|zon,  no, i have to use their wierd.domain.com to reroute to www.mysite.com
[12:36] <Arrick> well tedivm he spammed all of them in this instance
[12:36] <tedivm> ahh
[12:37] <Flannel> tedivm: most likely he did it a bunch of channels
[12:37] <cparker> THX-1138: I periodically flush the apt-cache. i'm going to try that mirror SeanTater suggested.
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: Yea, I know, I need to port it over to Linux..
[12:37] <SeanTater> cparker: hold on
[12:37] <SeanTater> cparker: I meant ftp.osuosl.org -- sorry
[12:37] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow - What's this "Porting"?
[12:37] <Hor|zon> epiloc, "Access your computer with a name (like zeus.afraid.org or yourdomain.com) instead of a numeric IP address"... maybe you have to go premium?
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: I have the source for VB and need to use RB to make it useable in Linux
[12:38] <epiloc> Hor|zon, $5 /month
[12:38] <SeanTater> cparker: it's ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu or http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu
[12:38] <kovan> tedivm and then what?
[12:38] <Hor|zon> ack
[12:39] <JamieBE> Jack_Sparrow - You can do that?"
[12:39] <TokenBad> ok folks...a drive problem here...I had the drive installed and working...then a game I had on it froze...so I rebooted...came back the drive was read only...so...I try alot of different suggestions for fixing it to no avail....so I finally just reinstalled the OS...ran fsck -f on the drive...well seems I fixed the read only problem...but now I have another problem or it could be part of the read only problem....I can seem to sav
[12:39] <TokenBad> e to the drive but like rar files then will not unrar...and games I put on it will not run...and always gives the same error...:  bash: ./ut2004: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied  I could have the game installed on my main drive working..and then copy it to this drive and boom...that error...any ideas?
[12:39] <Hor|zon> epiloc, so No-Ip.com was better?
[12:39] <epiloc> Hor|zon, honestly though, if my isp said 'yeah we will unblock port 80 for ya, just $5 more a month"  id probably do it
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: There are cross platform compilers available..
[12:39] <Hor|zon> lol
[12:39] <epiloc> Hor|zon, so i might as well go with the dynip pro package
[12:39] <JamieBE> Jack_sparrow - I have a couple of VB apps I would love to have under linux.
[12:40] <epiloc> Hor|zon, no-ip doesnt spcifically say that it does what i need it to do
[12:40] <epiloc> read this....
[12:40] <ajwasek_> so with ubuntu can i apt-get 'any-program' i need
[12:40] <__krugger__> TokenBad, maybe some of your permissions got damaged
[12:40] <Hor|zon> lol VB aps? VB or VB .NET?
[12:40] <Flannel> ajwasek: not any program, but any in the repositories, yes.
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: Realbasic is free for linux and uses many of the same conventions, the full cross platform compiler runs $350 for students
[12:40] <JamieBE> Including a colour picker that I built that totally kill Gcolor 2
[12:40] <TokenBad> __krugger__, I have tried to chown dirs and stuff...but not work either...so am out of ideas here
[12:40] <JamieBE> VB.NET :\
[12:40] <__krugger__> TokenBad, for example does ut have the execute flag on
[12:40] <Hor|zon> lol epiloc, it does, http://www.no-ip.com/services/managed_dns/plus_features.html
[12:40] <JoseStefan> epiloc, some ISPs will unblock port 80 if you insist enough
[12:40] <linuchsan> epiloc:yes you can, look at the afraid.org forums for more information.
[12:41] <fivre> anyone in here know why
[12:41] <__krugger__> TokenBad, you mean chmod
[12:41] <fivre> what the
[12:41] <JamieBE> I don't have $350 :)
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> JamieBE: I assume I know of planetsourcecode.com
[12:41] <ChocoCid> how do i make a keyboard button combination load up gnome-system-monitor? it doesn't seem to be in keyboard shortucts as an option
[12:41] <ajwasek_> Flannel: is there a list of the programs i can apt-get, how do i know wbat they are
[12:41] <TokenBad> __krugger__, sorry...yes
[12:41] <JamieBE> Heard of it Jack_Sparrow
[12:41] <Flannel> ajwasek_: sure, you can use apt-cache search [term] , or there
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Enough off-topic.. sorry all.
[12:41] <ubuntu> hi
[12:42] <__krugger__> TokenBad, what about sh is it executable?
[12:42] <tedivm> omg, its ubuntu itself!
[12:42] <epiloc> JoseStefan, I talked to the techs manager, he told me to switch ISP's
[12:42] <Flannel> ajwasek_: or, there's search functionality built into the GUI apps (such as synaptic), and there's also packages.ubuntu.com, if you prefer a web based browse thing
[12:42] <tedivm> the distro speaks!
[12:42] <fivre> anyone know why <embed src="../audio/sano-mandariini.mp3" width="24" height="24" type="audio/mpeg" autoplay="false" controls="playbutton"> just shows up as a useless gray box in firefox with the mplayer plugin, and how do I fix it?
[12:42] <TokenBad> __krugger__, I don't know...or even how to tell
[12:42] <Flannel> tedivm: the liveCD defaults that to that username, it's not uncommon here ;)
[12:42] <__krugger__> TokenBad, ls -l $(which sh)
[12:42] <Borat> Please i beg of someone to help me solve this thread/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258823
[12:42] <tedivm> ahh
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta run...
[12:43] <TokenBad> __krugger__,  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-09-13 08:32 /bin/sh -> bash
[12:43] <eternalswd> looks like significant progress has been made on flash 9 for linux.  http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ also mentions creating an ubuntu live cd for the flashforward conference demo.
[12:43] <Milktea> What program can I use to get widget-like items on my desktop
[12:43] <Eddie> kacpid is driving me crazy
[12:43] <epiloc> Hor|zon, yes but its not as detailed as http://www.dynip.com/main/lang/EN/ns/139/doc/109
[12:43] <Eddie> even when its reniced to 19
[12:43] <__krugger__> TokenBad, ut2004 must be a startup script
[12:43] <Eddie> its still slowing things down
[12:43] <Flannel> Borat: what do you mean closes?
[12:43] <Hor|zon> epiloc, http://freedns.afraid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5282. Are you sure afraid can't do it?
[12:44] <__krugger__> TokenBad, file $(which ut2004)
[12:44] <Eddie> does anyone know how to be rid of kacpid and still have usb?
[12:44] <TokenBad> __krugger__, I have to run it from within the dir I have ut2004 installed to
[12:45] <Hor|zon> epiloc, that thread wasn't very good lol, do a search for port 80 redirectionon those forums...i'm sure it can do it...
[12:45] <JosefK> RIP lilo
[12:45] <epiloc> Hor|zon, lol, ok
[12:46] <epiloc> Hor|zon, I have an account with afraid.org and they simply redirect yourname.weirddomain.com to www.mysite.com
[12:47] <__krugger__> TokenBad, I would guess you didn't use a -p on your cp so there must be permission problems
[12:47] <__krugger__> TokenBad, as cp didn't preserve the original permissions
[12:47] <Stork> is it possible to remove the gnome startup screen and just log straight in every time?
[12:48] <Borat> can someone please solve this thread., its about quake http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258823
[12:48] <Flannel> Borat: what do you mean closes?
[12:48] <epiloc> Hor|zon, wait!  what if i set up www.mysite.com to point to strage.domain.com, and then back
[12:48] <__krugger__> TokenBad, you can try using strace to see which file is giving permission denied
[12:48] <ChocoCid> Stork : yeah, it's possible
[12:48] <Borat> Flannel: Ill try to get a screen
[12:48] <__krugger__> TokenBad, but it might take some time
[12:48] <TokenBad> __krugger__,  -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root  1251 2006-04-21 20:12 ut2004
[12:48] <Flannel> Borat: run it in a terminal, not a 'run' dialog
[12:48] <Hor|zon> eplioc, http://freedns.afraid.org/forums/about263.html&highlight=port++redirect ...that suggests otherwise
[12:49] <Borat> Flannel: thats what i have been doing...
[12:49] <Flannel> Borat: so, a new window pops up? or what?
[12:50] <__krugger__> TokenBad, try sudo ut2004 to see if it says the same thing
[12:50] <epiloc> Hor|zon, lol that post has me corsseyed
[12:50] <TokenBad> __krugger__, it does
[12:51] <__krugger__> TokenBad, and there is not a noexec flag on your fstab for this partition?
[12:51] <TokenBad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23686
[12:51] <TokenBad> thats the strace
[12:52] <Borat> Flannel: Yea, a new window pops up, and then some script goes by saying some stuff.
[12:52] <Hor|zon> eiloc, from what I understand you want to point your domain to the freedns.afraid.org nameservers however that is done and then redirect yourdomain.com to yourdomain.com:port and then tell it to cloak
[12:52] <Hor|zon> or something like that
[12:52] <Borat> Flannel: Heres a screen http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5903/screenshotcy3.png
[12:52] <TokenBad> __krugger__, this is the line for this drive from fstab: /dev/hdd1   /media/windows   vfat   auto,users,umask=0  0 0
[12:52] <kilyong> oh
[12:53] <Hor|zon> epiloc, this forum is confusing...there are no straight answers
[12:53] <__krugger__> TokenBad, what does file ut2004 say?
[12:53] <Hor|zon> I'll look around a bit more
[12:53] <TokenBad> __krugger__,  -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root  1251 2006-04-21 20:12 ut2004
[12:53] <kilyong> hiear not korea??
[12:53] <Flannel> Borat: that looks like it's a bad script, bad arguments, etc
[12:53] <epiloc> Hor|zon, check out http://freedns.afraid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5282
[12:53] <matjan> hi, is it possible to run xgl/compiz in a vmware virtual machine? if yes, how do i set that up?
[12:54] <epiloc> Hor|zon, it seems that I might be able to change it with yahoo...
[12:54] <Flannel> matjan: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[12:54] <mrbrdo> how can i update to a newer (prebuilt) kernel?
[12:54] <TokenBad> I love xgl....its so cool
[12:54] <Borat> All i did was sh (filename)
[12:54] <Flannel> mrbrdo: just normal updates will keep you up to date with your kernel
[12:54] <kilyong> ~~   -_-;
[12:54] <matjan> Flannel: ahh, thanks... didn't know these existed
[12:54] <__krugger__> TokenBad, do a file ut2004 not an ls
[12:54] <djm62> !korean
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about korean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <Flannel> Borat: right, they have it written wrong, it looks like
[12:54] <mrbrdo> Flannel: so newest is .15? isn't it .17?
[12:55] <Flannel> mrbrdo: not on dapper
[12:55] <TokenBad> __krugger__, ut2004: Bourne shell script text executable
[12:55] <edgarin> Hi to all I have a problem with my sound card
[12:55] <mrbrdo> oh, i must go to an "unstable" release?
[12:55] <Flannel> mrbrdo: each ubuntu release has a frozen kernel version
[12:55] <Flannel> mrbrdo: edgy, yeah.
[12:55] <deep> Asking again;
[12:55] <mrbrdo> aha.. any link to a howto?
[12:55] <deep> Ooops
[12:55] <mrbrdo> only familiar with debian stuff a bit
[12:55] <__krugger__> TokenBad, cat ut2004 and see what does it call
[12:56] <Borat> Flannel: but it works for everyone else lol.
[12:56] <Flannel> mrbrdo: not unstable, just the next release.  it's alpha still, beta will be out in a few weeks.  #ubuntu+1 for details
[12:56] <deep> Can i search for shared libraryfiles (aka .so) with apt-get?
[12:56] <klaos> Alguem sabe colokar Direct32 no Wine?
[12:56] <Hor|zon> aaah epiloc, from what I understand now, you need to name your site whateveryouwant.yourdomain.com and then have a url redirect setup as yourdomain.com and tell it to cloak, that way it looks like yourdomain.com
[12:57] <__krugger__> deep:kind of if the package names is the same as the lib
[12:57] <klaos> direct3D*
[12:57] <mrbrdo> Flannel but it is using the newest kernel? or still not the newest?
[12:57] <Flannel> deep: you'll probably be better off with packages.ubuntu.com, there's a 'search the contents of packages' search box
[12:57] <Flannel> mrbrdo: its using .17 I believe
[12:57] <__krugger__> deep: apt-cache search
[12:57] <Hor|zon> lol epiloc, can you pm?
[12:57] <yoguess> can someone help me mount a partition with read & write accress rights?
[12:57] <epiloc> Hor|zon, haha, i dont think so
[12:57] <Hor|zon> join #epiloc
[12:58] <tanath> anyone have any idea why, when i log into gnome, the thumb buttons on my mouse don't work? they work in other WMs
[12:58] <deep> Flannel: Cant i do this with like... aptitude?
[12:58] <mrbrdo> Flannel is there a 3rd version aswell (like on debian - stable,testing,unstable)?
[12:58] <deep> __krugger__: Just wanted to know if it is possible.
[12:58] <TokenBad> __krugger__, you mean this?  exec "./ut2004-bin" $*
[12:59] <__krugger__> deep: I usually search http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[12:59] <edgarin> what is ubuntu porn sites???
[12:59] <Flannel> mrbrdo: nope.  There's a current version, and then a few weeks after the current version comes out they open up the development version
[12:59] <netG> hi
[12:59] <mrbrdo> k
[12:59] <deep> edgarin: pr0n.ubuntu.org =D ;)
[12:59] <__krugger__> TokenBad, and you have ut2004-bin in the same directory as ut2004?
[12:59] <deep> Haha
[12:59] <Flannel> deep: I' don't believe so.  It would require a lot more overhead, packages only know what theyve installed after installation.
[01:00] <edgarin> :d
[01:00] <__krugger__> TokenBad, if it just does that call the ut2004-bin directly
[01:00] <SirKarlOfTheGlad> I have installed a software package that's not in the package manager, I got it to work, but I can't put the icon in the menu entry using Alacarte. The icon that comes with the software has a .gif extension. I edited that with the GNOME icon editor and saved it as a .png file, but still Alacarte doesn't see it.
[01:00] <netG> I can't get DRI on my ATI card
[01:00] <netG> I have RV200 QW (radeon 7500)
[01:00] <tanath> netG, what driver you using?
[01:00] <tanath> !ati
[01:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:01] <deep> Flannel: I can search libraryfiles with synaptic..?
[01:01] <TokenBad> __krugger__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23688  thats the whole ut2004
[01:03] <netG> my card isn't supported by ATI/binary
[01:03] <netG> I used kernel drm module in Gentoo
[01:03] <tanath> netG, so use the "ati" driver
[01:04] <netG> do you mean : xserver-xorg-ati-driver?
[01:04] <tanath> yeh
[01:04] <netG> It's installed
[01:04] <netG> :(
[01:04] <Col> Can anyone help with a strange USB problem? My Sony digital camera isn't recognised on this computer, despite the camera definitely working and the USB slots working when (eg) a USB mouse is plugged in to them. Dmesg doesn't even recognise the camera being plugged in/taken out and /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog show nothing either. Anyone seen anything like it?
[01:05] <netG> Sorry,  i mean xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[01:05] <ninjapeppery> Have you tried a different USB port and cable?
[01:05] <ninjapeppery> Col: Have you tried a different USB port and cable?
[01:05] <netG> lsmod | grep drm : drm                    73236  0
[01:05] <netG> agpgart                34888  2 drm,via_agp
[01:05] <Col> lsusb and usbview also don't show anything and the camera is turned on and using the same settings as for a different ubuntu computer. @ninja - yes, this cable works with the camera on a different computer and all ports have been tried
[01:05] <chaos_> how do I turn off X?
[01:05] <TokenBad> __krugger__, any idea based on that script?
[01:05] <djm62> Col: have you tried with the camera switched on? both before and while plugged in?
[01:06] <netG> chaos_ : ctrl+alt+del
[01:06] <djm62> Col: so this is a setup which has worked with ubu before?
[01:06] <__krugger__> TokenBad, I see that the problem is before the script
[01:06] <wizard> What does this mean in my syslog - Sep 17 08:52:28 localhost kernel: [17180804.708000]  NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0000 0000 00f5f3f0 0000efc4 00f5f3f0 00f5f3f0
[01:06] <gnomefreak> chaos_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:07] <wizard> basically i think maybe when using sound my pc freezes..  i can move mouse but thats all
[01:07] <__krugger__> TokenBad, as the permission denied comes from the execve of ut2004
[01:07] <tanath> netG, what's this say: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:07] <xvxvx> realplayer depends on xlibs which isn't installable? =/
[01:07] <ninjapeppery> Col: Have you tried putting the memory card into a different device? Ubuntu doesn't like my PSP so I need to put my PSP's memory stick into my phone before Ubuntu will recognise it, however windows recognises the PSP but not my phone ;\
[01:07] <TokenBad> __krugger__, ok now you lost me
[01:07] <gnomefreak> chaos_: or kdm in place of gdm depending on what display mangler you are using
[01:07] <__krugger__> TokenBad, that is weird as the permissions are 777
[01:07] <TokenBad> yeah its all been weird since the computer problem
[01:07] <netG> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[01:07] <netG> :-/
[01:08] <netG> no other errors
[01:08] <__krugger__> TokenBad, I conclude that the problem is the interpreter or the fact that it is a vfat filesystem
[01:08] <TokenBad> I am thinking about formating it..take off some files I want to keep...then format it
[01:08] <tanath> netG, what about 'grep -i dri /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[01:08] <Col> @ninja & djm thanks for your help :) djm - I've tried with the camera powered on during connection and turned off. And yes, it works flawlessly on two other Ubuntu installs. It's making me suspect the computer itself (and the motherboard is a little flaky) but I don't understand why the ports work for other devices if they're broken. Ninja, unfortunately I don't have any other devices to hand that would take the memory card :(
[01:09] <netG> tanath: I can fix  wacom error inxorg.conf and retry...
[01:09] <djm62> Col: has it worked: (a) on that computer with that software at some previous time (b) on that computer with different software ?
[01:09] <tanath> netG, that's not the problem, but go ahead and fix if you want
[01:10] <__krugger__> TokenBad, I think it is the file system as the strace output said it couldn't even execute script ut2004
[01:10] <djm62> Col: and for the other machines that it works on, can you remember doing or installing anything to get it to work?
[01:10] <TokenBad> __krugger__,  well it was working before the freeze up...so when I reformat I guess will make it linux
[01:11] <Jaak> join #winehq
[01:11] <Col> If the motherboard did have USB problems, would it be reasonable that it could selectively not recognise certain types of devices? Given that the back slots enter the motherboard at a completely different section to the front slots is it even reasonable to assume that they could all be taken out, yet the computer be stable?  @djm - yes, it has worked on this computer before. No software or preparations are needed normally, it's just recognised as a  USB m
[01:11] <Col> ass storage device
[01:11] <Jaak> whoops
[01:12] <chaos_> the nvidia installer said I was missing some kernel thing and then I needed gcc something-er-rather
[01:12] <djm62> :)
[01:12] <Jaak> what is the command to get wine
[01:12] <Jaak> config pane
[01:12] <__krugger__> TokenBad, hope it give you back Unreal :)
[01:13] <__krugger__> TokenBad, well I am off
[01:13] <TokenBad> __krugger__, thanks....
[01:13] <djm62> Col: I'm befuddled then, except to ask the age old question- what has changed on that computer since it was working?
[01:13] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:13] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:13] <netG> tanath : I'll try to copy xorg.conf from Gentoo installation
[01:13] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
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[01:14] <netG> brb
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
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[01:14] <Jaak> ????
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[01:14] <VAXpirate> ----EISENKREUZ-----------NAZI-------SCHUTZSTAFFELOR-
[01:14] <xvxvx> wtf
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
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[01:14] <narg> wtf, someone was doing this in ##C++ too
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <Jaak> kick ban
[01:14] <djm62> lol stupid trolls.. /ignore-d!
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <LoRez> Warning: `VAXpirate' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:14] <VAXpirate> RIP LILO <3 <3 <3
[01:16] <gnomefreak> what is the command to see cpu info?
[01:16] <Thug-P> hello
[01:16] <Thug-P> can somebody help me
[01:16] <nature> cat /proc/cpu
[01:16] <jazzrocker> the sad thing is... someone somewhere had the desire to spend the time to create that little ascii graphic
[01:16] <Thug-P> jazzrocker i need 2 know all commands of ubuntu
[01:17] <gnomefreak> nature: thats not it but thank you
[01:17] <jazzrocker> hahahahahahahahahahaha
[01:17] <Thug-P> and my mouse is not working and i wanna listen too mp3 can you connect my system and install everything
[01:17] <linuchsan> nature:no, cpuinfo
[01:17] <nature> ok
[01:17] <gnomefreak> linuchsan: nope
[01:17] <djm62> Thug-P: you might be better off with paid support for that level of stuff
[01:17] <Thug-P> I have no clue why
[01:17] <Col> Yeah, I appreciate the help djm, I'm stumped as well. :) As for the age-old question, it does have leaking capacitors which have marked a gradual decline in the motherboard. It's been through quite a lot including a PSU blow out about 1 1/2 years ago. I changed the graphics card recently, but only because the old one was dying. Having said that, it's solid as a rock under stress testing and has been for ages, which is why I'm a bit sceptical that just the
[01:17] <Col>  USB ports could be selectively broken as a result
[01:17] <Thug-P> its easy right, jus tell me something
[01:18] <Eddie> anyone know how i cn update my kernel without having to recompile it?
[01:18] <Thug-P> djm62 can you help me
[01:18] <Eddie> I have no idea what mods etc I need
[01:18] <Thug-P> it's temporarly just for mp3
[01:18] <maple1> can someone unban cvt?
[01:18] <Thug-P> what should i do
[01:18] <maple1> er
[01:18] <maple1> un-kline
[01:18] <Col> But hey, probably will have to send it to the great motherboard graveyard in the sky :)
[01:18] <maple1> can someone un-kline cvt?
[01:18] <Eddie> ie can I apt-get the latest generic binary
[01:18] <Col> Thug-P - google search for "automatix" or "easy ubuntu"
[01:18] <Thug-P> automatix is what i will look for
[01:19] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[01:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:19] <Thug-P> thats something of install script
[01:19] <narg> Eddie: the latest packaged one, yes, that bleeding edge one, probably not from ubuntu repositories
[01:19] <Thug-P> thanks
[01:19] <djm62> Col: sounds like it.  there's only so much hardware bugs you can patch around in software ;#)
[01:19] <Thug-P> let's see now next?
[01:19] <Col> indeed :) thanks again djm, take care
[01:19] <Eddie> narg: apt-get install linux?
[01:20] <Eddie> narg: Im trying to sort out a bug with kacpid that is driving me nuts
[01:20] <xevix> still looking for a way to update ubuntu without internet connection
[01:20] <Thug-P> whats the name of that root thing how do i run that application
[01:20] <narg> apt-get install linux-686 or whatever
[01:20] <Thug-P> alt and f2
[01:20] <narg> rep replace 686 with whatever you run
[01:20] <djm62> xevix: I think there is such a thing that worked on debian
[01:20] <wizard> how do i stop ubuntu auto mounting my ntfs drives in gnome disk manager?
[01:20] <djm62> xevix: apt-zip?
[01:21] <chaos_> where is the kernel source tree for 2.6?
[01:21] <xevix> djm62, that works for new apps, but not updates apparently
[01:21] <Thug-P> easy
[01:21] <fivre> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=464450
[01:21] <djm62> xevix: have you confirmed that? that seems like rather an off limitation
[01:21] <fivre> any help?
[01:21] <Thug-P> wait its going too fast i ask again first i need 2 download and then tell me
[01:22] <Eddie> weird how net apps running in the console run slower
[01:22] <Eddie> its bizarre
[01:22] <vik> how can I get an app to start automatically once I've logged in?
[01:22] <Eddie> I disabled acpi on my kernel
[01:22] <Eddie> and now no usb devices work
[01:22] <djm62> vik: add it to your session (or just leave it running when you log out, if it's session-aware)
[01:22] <Eddie> anyone know how i can fix that
[01:22] <helloyo> i've i've
[01:23] <vik> djm62: thanks
[01:23] <Thug-P> i cant see anything happening
[01:23] <Thug-P> i tried with alt f2
[01:23] <xevix> djm62, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46282?
[01:23] <helloyo> i've compiled mplayer for ubuntu, but i cannot get access to any video drivers, or alsa, any help?
[01:23] <Thug-P> i need too open the root thing
[01:23] <Thug-P> what is the name of that
[01:23] <Thug-P> lets talk private
[01:23] <Thug-P> can you come private?
[01:23] <wickers> How do I remove totem without removing gnome-desktop?
[01:24] <djm62> wickers: removing gnome-desktop is harmless
[01:24] <Thug-P> or is anna gone
[01:24] <Col> gnome-desktop is only a metapackage - removal won't do anything important
[01:24] <Thug-P> lalal
[01:24] <Thug-P> somebody help meeeeeeee
[01:24] <Thug-P> ;)
[01:24] <lix> Rob Levin (founder of Freenode) just passed away: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Levin
[01:24] <djm62> wickers: gnome-desktop's only job is to depend on the rest of the gnome stuff
[01:24] <wickers> Oh, so it won't drop down and remover other deps then?
[01:24] <wickers> remove*
[01:24] <THX-1138> wickers - I think it is telling you the meta package gnome-desktop will be changed
[01:24] <wickers> cool
[01:24] <tedivm> i'm pretty sure we're all aware that the guy died
[01:24] <lix> (sorry for posting this offtopic in here)
[01:24] <jazzrocker> Thug-P, stop trolling
[01:24] <wickers> Ahh
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> Thug-P: We generally don't done private conversations here, so that the answer is available to anyone else with the question.  You can either pursue it here, or if things move too fast, #ubuntu-classroom has been set up for that purpose.
[01:24] <wickers> Thanks.
[01:24] <djm62> wickers: nope, it depends on them, they don't depend on it, if you see
[01:24] <narg> Thug-P: The root thing? sudo?
[01:25] <jazzrocker> Thug-P, or go read smart questions.
[01:25] <tedivm> ubuntu-classroom?
[01:25] <Thug-P> sudo
[01:25] <Thug-P> wait i try
[01:25] <SuPrEmAcY> Ciao a tutti
[01:25] <Thug-P> i cant get a view of any application by typing in alt f2 sudo
[01:25] <jazzrocker> Thug-P, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <- read that
[01:25] <THX-1138> #ubuntu-it
[01:25] <knixtech> I am trying to run ganttproject.sh and nothing happens when i run it, any thoughts?
[01:25] <THX-1138> !#ubuntu-it
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <THX-1138> !ubuntu-it
[01:26] <Thug-P> i have no mouse hello! i have one but it's not working with ubuntu
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> !it
[01:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:26] <Thug-P> :S
[01:26] <tedivm> ubotu, roffle
[01:26] <THX-1138> hah
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roffle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <djm62> xevix: that page says that apt-zip can do upgrades, as well as packages
[01:26] <Thug-P> by wasting each others time we will not fix anything
[01:26] <djm62> xevix: at least, the way I read it
[01:26] <Thug-P> how do i start sudo wth alt f2
[01:26] <Thug-P> in ubuntu
[01:26] <Thug-P> with
[01:26] <xevix> djm62, yeah, just found it, seems like it might do the trick, i'll give it a shot in vmware first, then i'll unlazify and try it on another computer with ubuntu
[01:27] <jazzrocker> !enter > Thug-P
[01:27] <narg> Thug-P: gtksu program
[01:27] <lix> whois lilo
[01:27] <Thug-P> no i cant get any view of anything by pressing enter
[01:27] <djm62> Thug-P: narg it's gksu
[01:27] <JamieBE> Hi everyone - I just installed a program called "Gallery2" off of synaptic - how to I get it to run?
[01:28] <Thug-P> gksu
[01:28] <Thug-P> ok
[01:28] <narg> djm62: gtksu works on my box at least...
[01:28] <Thug-P> missing command to run
[01:28] <djm62> narg: oh, my apologies
[01:28] <Thug-P> ok
[01:28] <wizard> disk admin keeps on mounting my ntfs drive when i disable it and click ok.. go back in.. its enabled again grr! any ideas? the ntfs drive isnt showing in /etc/fstab ?
[01:28] <narg> hrm, nevermind
[01:28] <narg> I thought it did... :p
[01:28] <HesNikke> so i'm trying to set up a crappy 5 year old dell with xubuntu
[01:28] <narg> I use kdesu anyway.
[01:28] <wickers> anyone here have any luck getting enemy territory working on 6.06 and intel graphics?
[01:29] <ompaul> HesNikke, pay a visit to #xubuntu they do it there all the time
[01:29] <Thug-P> dj
[01:29] <JamieBE> Is there a way of seeing all the executables installed on Ubuntu?
[01:29] <djm62> Thug-P: can you restate in one line what you are trying to do and where you are at on that?
[01:29] <Thug-P> what's the command then
[01:29] <HesNikke> and when ever i try to boot from the CD, i get a blue screen complaining about the server not configured right
[01:29] <HesNikke> any boot options to not start the xserver?
[01:29] <narg> JamieBE: just by name?
[01:29] <Thug-P> trying too download automatix trough that command line thing but i need 2 open that
[01:29] <Thug-P> trough alt f2
[01:29] <HesNikke> ompaul, i asked there and got not responce
[01:29] <Thug-P> i have no mouse in use cause it's unable too work in ubuntu
[01:29] <JamieBE> narg: if need be yes, I need to run a program called "Gallery2"
[01:30] <Thug-P> and it's first day
[01:30] <djm62> Thug-P: at the moment, your mouse isn't working...
[01:30] <Thug-P> yeah
[01:30] <Stork> is it possible to remove the gnome startup screen and just log straight in every time?
[01:30] <THX-1138> !mouse
[01:30] <narg> JamieBE: does running Gallery2 not work?
[01:30] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:30] <JamieBE> narg: funnily enough, no.
[01:30] <Thug-P> its trough the round thing not serial
[01:30] <Thug-P> but dont mind the mouse lets install mp3 things so i can listen music
[01:31] <Thug-P> first automatix ?
[01:31] <ivanoski> how do i install the plugins to veiw videos and stuff???
[01:31] <sean> I can't seem to make my wireless work.
[01:31] <narg> JamieBE: try cat /usr/bin/ | grep -i gallery
[01:31] <Thug-P> but how do i open the command line program trough alt f2 while that wasn't working
[01:31] <sean> Well it works but when I try and access a network with WEP it won't work.
[01:32] <narg> Thug-P: You if want you access a command line, run gnome-terminal
[01:32] <JamieBE> narg: cat: /usr/bin/: Is a directory
[01:32] <Thug-P> even the cd rom wont prompt out any more
[01:32] <Thug-P> thanks i try
[01:32] <narg> JamieBE: Oh, my bad; ls
[01:32] <JamieBE> ok
[01:32] <ompaul> HesNikke, you can get the server isntall and work your way up from there
[01:32] <djm62> Thug-P: do you know a couple of keyboard shortcuts? alt-tab to switch windows, and something else for the main menu
[01:32] <Thug-P> yeah i got something
[01:32] <Thug-P> yeah i found out how
[01:32] <Thug-P> alt f1 alt f2 and alt tab
[01:32] <Thug-P> do you got more for me?
[01:32] <djm62> Thug-P: that's the essentials
[01:33] <narg> alt f2 and alt tab are the most important
[01:33] <Flannel> HesNikke, ompaul, no.  don't get the server install, get the alternate CD, and type 'server' at the prompt.  You'll have dekstop kernels that way
[01:33] <ivanoski> how do i install the plugins to veiw videos??
[01:33] <djm62> Thug-P: can you get Terminal from the menu? it's easiest for this
[01:33] <narg> !mp3
[01:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:33] <JamieBE> narg: gallery2slideshow - I dont think that this is it.
[01:33] <epiloc> automatix !!!
[01:33] <narg> ivanoski: Read that.
[01:33] <Flannel> epiloc: no.
[01:33] <epiloc> automatix solves everyones problems!
[01:33] <epiloc> Flannel, ah, nvm then
[01:33] <Amaranth> !automatix
[01:33] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:33] <Flannel> epiloc: automatix breaks more than it fixes.  please don't recommend it.
[01:34] <narg> JamieBE: no, probably not. Where did you get gallery2? apt-get?
[01:34] <Thug-P> yeah i am in terminal
[01:34] <Thug-P> now what?
[01:34] <Thug-P> start wget?
[01:34] <ompaul> Flannel, sorry something else is on my mind
[01:34] <djm62> Thug-P: so now when you enter the commands, you will see the output.  so start wget
[01:34] <Flannel> ompaul: no problem ;)
[01:34] <Thug-P> i need mp3 player
[01:34] <JamieBE> Just from the Synaptix program through add/remove and then 'Advanced'
[01:34] <Thug-P> yeah i saw that
[01:34] <narg> JamieBE: ok, lemme find it quick.
[01:34] <Thug-P> the commands
[01:35] <knixtech> can someone help me get ganttproject working?
[01:35] <JamieBE> narg - cheers
[01:35] <djm62> knixtech: what's not working atm?
[01:35] <Thug-P> dj can we talk private so i can follow everything
[01:35] <ivanoski> please someone help!!!
[01:35] <Meglo> So, can anyone confirm that www.tacobell.com uses flash 9 or so? Because its a really important matter.
[01:36] <knixtech> djm62, well when i run the .sh it goes back to the cmd line and nothing happens
[01:36] <narg> JamieBE: its not a program, its a php script. You won't find an executabl
[01:36] <Flannel> Meglo: it does
[01:36] <djm62> Thug-P: it's considered bad form here. where are you now? and can you follow the instructions from here?
[01:36] <exs> How do I use my linux laptop as an internet gateway for my windows desktop?
[01:36] <Meglo> Flannel, :(. So Sad.
[01:36] <Thug-P> i am doing my best its getting pretty busy here
[01:36] <JamieBE> narg :( - I'm so thick. Any ideas how to use it then?
[01:36] <Thug-P> can you search something too start mp3 files in ubuntu for me please and tell me what too do
[01:36] <gekko`> !seveas > ivanoski
[01:37] <gekko`> ivanoski: check that repository
[01:37] <narg> JamieBE: You'll have to start something like apache and php. Are you simply using it to view images?
[01:37] <Flannel> djm62, Thug-P, you can go to #ubuntu-classroom for a lower-traffic place to chat
[01:37] <Foorael> How do I configure ALSA to use /dev/dsp1 instead of /dev/dsp?
[01:37] <lhds> how to install an icon theme pack/?
[01:37] <wickers> anyone here have any luck getting enemy territory working on 6.06 and intel graphics?
[01:37] <lfhb> my wireless suddenly disappeared from  network list help
[01:37] <MenZa> bed.
[01:37] <xevix> djm62, how do i search for what package to install to get apt-zip?
[01:38] <djm62> Flannel: Thug-P thanks let's hit #ubuntu-classroom, though I'm no teacher
[01:38] <narg> wickers: is it even possible to play et with intel graphics? :p
[01:38] <djm62> xevix: aptitude search apt-zip, from the cmd line
[01:38] <JamieBE> narg - The idea is to create a functional web-based gallery. Apache and MySQL were part of the installation. I know that Apache is a virtual web-server (localhost) and that MySQL is a virtual local database - Correct?
[01:38] <xevix> djm62, thx..... i'm a gentoo user, so i'm not used to debian
[01:39] <Hor|zon> Does anyone know a gtk alternative for Audacity?
[01:39] <djm62> Hor|zon: I think audacity is gtk..
[01:39] <narg> JamieBE: they arn't virtual, they are actually a web servr and a database manager, but yea.
[01:39] <Andrew67> Hor|zon: you mean gtk+, audacity uses an old version of gtk
[01:39] <Hor|zon> yeah
[01:39] <auk_> lhds, if it's a gnome icon theme pack, drag and drop it into the theme manager (system -> preferences -> themes)
[01:39] <knixtech> djm62, how do i find were my java is installed?
[01:39] <Hor|zon> gtk+...anyone know any?
[01:39] <djm62> knixtech: which java, or locate java
[01:40] <knixtech> kk
[01:40] <JamieBE> narg - I think I get it now. The PHP script is the application itself - it's all managed via the local website
[01:40] <gebi> hi all :)
[01:40] <lfhb> whereis java
[01:40] <djm62> knixtech: those are the commands, btw
[01:40] <knixtech> ya, ty
[01:40] <narg> JamieBE: Correct. You'll need to set up and start apache, which can be done with apache2ctl I believe
[01:40] <Hor|zon> yeah, it's seriously a waste
[01:40] <JamieBE> Ahhhhhh - OK - I see now thanks for your help there narg - I would never have figured that out myself.
[01:40] <xevix> djm62, can't seem to find it
[01:41] <narg> JamieBE: No problem. I'm not familiar with apache/mysql/php, so I can't help you much there
[01:41] <lfhb> hello there is there a way to add wireless card manually
[01:41] <Flannel> !tell JamieBE about lamp
[01:41] <djm62> xevix: try packages.ubuntu.com for a search, it might be a repository thing
[01:41] <Hor|zon> I really can't have those old gtk apps fuglying up my desktop =_=
[01:41] <Raz`> Yay, installed
[01:41] <Raz`> I am teh hero
[01:42] <JamieBE> Thanks narg - Flannel - good call. - JamieBE out.
[01:42] <Hor|zon> lol Raz, finally
[01:42] <djm62> xevix: it's in universe, according to my box
[01:42] <xevix> ah... that's why
[01:42] <xevix> ok
[01:42] <xevix> thx
[01:42] <Raz`> But device manager isn't really detecting...anything
[01:42] <gbutler69> If I wanted to run an application built, tested, QA'd, etc for Fedora Core 1 (Command Line Only, no graphics required) on an "image" in Ubuntu (let's say, 6.06) which would be a better option: Xen, Qemu, or VMWare? Any thoughts on this?
[01:42] <Raz`> so I need to manually install all drivers?
[01:43] <Hor|zon> tried reconfiguring the kernel?
[01:43] <Raz`> Uh, no
[01:43] <Raz`> I'm doing this to learn linux
[01:43] <Raz`> so yeah
[01:43] <gebi> congratulations... upstart is _really_ great :)
[01:44] <kitche> sethk: are you around
[01:44] <narg> gbutler69: if it needs speed, your speed list will probably be: xen, vmware, qemu. If its on the same arch, qemu is overkill.
[01:44] <Hor|zon> Raz, you're in linux now?
[01:44] <gebi> gbutler69: i'm using qemu with acc module
[01:44] <knixtech> djm62, ack, i try and run it in terminal and nothing happens
[01:44] <Raz`> Yea
[01:44] <Hor|zon> a shot in the dark, but try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-`uname -r`
[01:45] <Foorael> gbutler69: Though qemu does have the advantage of "I don't cost money"
[01:45] <narg> xen is free too, though
[01:45] <Hor|zon> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[01:45] <gbutler69> Does anyone have success stories with Qemu? Xen?
[01:45] <Raz`> Don't think it worked
[01:45] <narg> afk a few.
[01:45] <gebi> but xen needs a special kernel in the host system...
[01:45] <Raz`> ok that one's doing something I think
[01:45] <Raz`> I think it froze the terminal
[01:46] <Raz`> lol
[01:46] <Hor|zon> o.O
[01:46] <Raz`> nm
[01:46] <Raz`> there it goes
[01:46] <Foorael> gbutler69: I use qemu for testing custom OS projects, and it's worked fine for that.
[01:46] <Horrible> can someone help me with something ?
[01:46] <Raz`> it updated grub, should I check dev man now?
[01:46] <Raz`> Still nothing in devman
[01:46] <Foorael> gbutler69: But, I have not done it with anything server-like or high load, so I can't say much about its performance
[01:46] <Raz`> It didn't detect my sound or anything, I manually installed the nvidia drivers
[01:46] <Foorael> !ask > Horrible
[01:47] <gbutler69> What about for about 1,000 production systems. Currently running Fedora Core 1. Would like to upgrade to Ubuntu and keep Fedora as a running image just for the legacy app while getting all the "Ubuntuey Goodness".
[01:47] <Horrible> Foorael: i want to make my 5.1 sound system work and i don`t know how ...
[01:47] <Hor|zon> Raz, is everything fine now? did you reinstall the kernal image after you got it working?
[01:47] <THX-1138> !soundblaster
[01:47] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[01:47] <tibs> hey there
[01:47] <Hor|zon> could always try rebooting
[01:48] <Hor|zon> I have no idea what madness you did to get it work so I don't really have a clue
[01:48] <Raz`> uh
[01:48] <Horrible> thanks THX-1138
[01:48] <Raz`> actually I bitched out and got a CD
[01:48] <Raz`> so
[01:48] <Hor|zon> lol
[01:48] <THX-1138> Linux Comunitty :)
[01:48] <Raz`> i mean, it installed fine
[01:48] <nwbreneman> Could somebody please help me with vsftp? I attempted to configure it the way I wanted, and started the daemon succesfully, but I don't know how others are supposed to connect to me. Is it via my IP address? I am on a LAN, and the IP addresses are all internal.
[01:48] <Raz`> just absolutely no autodetection
[01:48] <Raz`> I have no problem with manually grabbing drivers, but these console commands are so much greek to me
[01:49] <Foorael> Does anyone know how to switch the alsa output device to /dev/dsp1 from /dev/dsp ?
[01:49] <Hor|zon> seach the forums or something with your soundcard's name
[01:49] <Foorael> (I can make it work by deleting /dev/dsp and symlinking /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1, but I'd rathern ot)
[01:49] <Foorael> Hor|zon: It's not soundcard specific. It's just ALSA configuration.
[01:49] <Raz`> ALSA?
[01:49] <Foorael> (for my problem)
[01:49] <Meglo> moar like SALSA
[01:50] <Foorael> ALSA = Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[01:50] <Raz`> well it's done more than not find my sound
[01:50] <Raz`> my processor, everything in devman is unknown
[01:50] <nwbreneman> Foorael: I'm not sure if I know what you mean, but I have a USB soundcard and an internal. I just changed the preferred device under Sound in System Preferences.
[01:51] <Foorael> nwbreneman: This is the case for me as well, only the preferred device box is blank. Doesn't even list one card.
[01:51] <PyChild> Hello ubunteros
[01:52] <nwbreneman> Foorael: Weird. I really have no idea, I'm still new to Linux.
[01:52] <xevix> djm62, seems like this only works if you have _slow_ internet connections
[01:53] <Raz`> I've used 'sudo' like 10 times and I still have no clue what it does.
[01:53] <Foorael> nwbreneman: I mostly use the console and e17 anyway, so I'd much prefer to know how to reconfigure ALSA.
[01:53] <Foorael> Raz: sudo executes the thing in front of it with administrator privleges.
[01:53] <kitche> Foorael: well /dev/dsp is OSS not alsa
[01:53] <djm62> xevix: that seems odd: you mean it doesn't work if you have no connection?
[01:53] <Foorael> Raz: That's why it asks for your password the first time you use it in each terminal.
[01:54] <Raz`> oh, ok.
[01:54] <nwbreneman> Could somebody please help me with vsftp? I attempted to configure it the way I wanted, and started the daemon succesfully, but I don't know how others are supposed to connect to me. Is it via my IP address? I am on a LAN, and the IP addresses are all internal.
[01:54] <Foorael> Kitche: Then why do apps using ALSA start going to the speaker when I delete /dev/dsp and symlink it to /dev/dsp1 ?
[01:54] <Raz`> So, any way to force an autodetect on my hardware?
[01:54] <xevix> djm62, yep
[01:54] <kitche> Foorael: becuase they are probbaly using OSS emulation though ALSA
[01:54] <xevix> djm62, cuz you need to update the package list you need the updates for, apparently, at least according to the guide i saw in the ubuntu forums
[01:55] <Foorael> kitche: Gstreamer uses OSS emulation ?
[01:55] <djm62> xevix: OIC.  that sounds like it could be worked aroung
[01:57] <kitche> Foorael: I think it uses OSS, see OSS is an outdated sound system but some programs still use it anyways you can change that option in gstreamers options
[01:57] <Foorael> kitche: I know what OSS is, and I checked in gstreamer-properties --it is set to ALSA
[01:58] <Renan_s2> !cinelerra
[01:58] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html#ubuntu
[01:59] <kitche> Foorael: well it's probably using OSS emulation though ALSA then
[02:02] <PyChild> Hey people
[02:03] <PyChild> do you know of any (gnome) enchancement to virtual desktops?
[02:03] <PyChild> the or wallpaper feature?
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> PyChild: You mean like having different wallpapers per workspace?
[02:04] <PyChild> yea
[02:04] <PyChild> .ton something like that
[02:05] <jrib> PyChild: wallpapoz, but it isn't packaged
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> PyChild: It's not built into Gnome, but I do know there are one or two tools out there to accomplish that.  I don't think I have them bookmarked though, so you might have to Google.
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> PyChild, jrib: That's the one.
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> Happy compiling.
[02:06] <jrib> it's python, there's no compiling
[02:06] <PyChild> jrib?
[02:06] <jrib> well now it is, it used to be c++ but was redone
[02:06] <jrib> PyChild: http://wallpapoz.akbarhome.com/
[02:07] <PyChild> wow url and everythin
[02:07] <PyChild> thanks guys!
[02:07] <jrib> PyChild: I've been thinking about packaging it
[02:08] <swizzle> how do i delete something in the terminal, like a whole folder and contents when i am not the owner
[02:08] <swizzle> how do i delete something in the terminal, like a whole folder and contents when i am not the owner
[02:08] <Foorael> swizzle: sudo rm -rf path
[02:09] <swizzle> what does rm -rf mean?
[02:09] <Foorael> -r (recursive) -f (force)
[02:09] <Foorael> man rm
[02:09] <Foorael> for mor detail
[02:09] <Foorael> *more
[02:09] <swizzle> thanks
[02:10] <Captain_Redbeard> hmmm... is there any official ubuntu packages for X11R7.1 ?
[02:10] <swizzle> let me try it
[02:10] <Hor|zon> lol
[02:10] <Hor|zon> no
[02:10] <Hor|zon> don't try it
[02:10] <archangelpetro> basically rm -rf will remove directories and all subcontents of that directory (recursively and forced)
[02:10] <Hor|zon> =_=
[02:10] <kitche> yeah just don't do rm -rf /
[02:10] <Foorael> swizzle: Just be careful and don't put a low path like / in there, or you'll trash your system.
[02:10] <archangelpetro> rm -rf /  removes allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll that is, and all that will ever be
[02:10] <swizzle> that is fine it was a wasted folder
[02:10] <Foorael> acrchangelpetro: No, all that's mounted.
[02:11] <archangelpetro> well yea
[02:11] <swizzle> when i re instaled firefox i did it manually and I could get a couple duplicate folders deleted
[02:11] <swizzle> i couldn't
[02:11] <Foorael> archangelpetro: I correct myself, all that's mounted with write privleges
[02:11] <swizzle> *
[02:11] <archangelpetro> indeed Foorael
[02:11] <Foorael> swizzle: locate firefox
[02:11] <Captain_Redbeard> Hor|zon: hmm?
[02:12] <Foorael> achangelpetro: I don't have it on this box, but on my server I consistently have /usr, /bin, and /lib mounted ro, and /boot not mounted. :P
[02:12] <archangelpetro> Foorael: either way, rm-rf / would be very bad
[02:12] <THX-1138> :(){ :|:& };: << - Don't try this either. (I'll likely be slapped silly with a trout.)
[02:12] <Foorael> No, try it, but set up appropriate process ulimits first.
[02:12] <swizzle> achangelepetro: why is it bad if you konw what you are doing
[02:12] <archangelpetro> what services do you offer?
[02:12] <swizzle> i did it and it worked like i wanted
[02:13] <archangelpetro> it's a very useful thing to limit accessibility when ur servering
[02:13] <Foorael> archangelpetro: :P It's mostly a server for me and my friends. It just does svn, apache, ruby on rails, php, MySQL, ssh/scp, that sort of deal.
[02:13] <archangelpetro> fair play
[02:13] <archangelpetro> i aint had much experience with ruby
[02:13] <archangelpetro> Foorael: is ruby any good?
[02:13] <Foorael> archangelpetro: Neither have I. I tried it once, and while the language is OK, I much prefer PHP for web dev.
[02:14] <archangelpetro> Foorael: ruby isnt intended to solely be a web dev language is it?
[02:14] <Foorael> archangelpetro: joshuawise.com/~azrael/multiget.rb (a sample quick program I wrote in ruby)
[02:14] <THX-1138> Foorael - Make an excellent back up copy of your site. it unfortuneately is only a matter of time before someone defaces it.
[02:14] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: nah, ruby started out as a general language
[02:14] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: much like python
[02:14] <archangelpetro> started out? implying evolution?
[02:14] <swizzle> Foorael: I tried the rm -rf with a folder titled "untitled folder" but it didn't work
[02:14] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: it just kind of caught on to web development with rails
[02:15] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: yes, ruby existed as a scripting language far before rails
[02:15] <archangelpetro> ahh cool
[02:15] <Foorael> swizzle: You either have to escape the space, or put quotes around it.
[02:15] <archangelpetro> it doesnt look that nice
[02:15] <swizzle> okay
[02:15] <archangelpetro> a little dirty tbh
[02:15] <PhillipElHaxor> alright
[02:15] <swizzle> worked like a charm
[02:15] <Raz`> Where can I get support on XGL?
[02:15] <swizzle> thanks
[02:15] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: well, the advantage are everything is an object, which gives you a high level of flexibility
[02:15] <Foorael> archangelpetro: If you are looking for an interesting new language, try lua. It's an extensible/extending language.
[02:15] <PhillipElHaxor> who can tell me how to get the rtorrent package?
[02:15] <archangelpetro> i like perl/C(++)/java  and i'm learning python atm which is ok
[02:16] <Captain_Redbeard> So, nobody knows anything about X11R7.1 ?
[02:16] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: however, with that comes overhead
[02:16] <archangelpetro> ChrisWhite: well most newer OOP langs tend to make everything into objects dont they?
[02:16] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: ie, a standard string has to construct itself as an object, versus just being a standard string
[02:16] <netherwolf> Raz: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Eye_Candy
[02:16] <redir> http://www.sqlonrails.org/
[02:16] <archangelpetro> aye i can see that posing alot of probs regarding speed
[02:17] <THX-1138> Captain_Redbeard, - #ubuntu+1  the next release uses 7.1
[02:17] <archangelpetro> i'll stick to perl/python/c/java/c++ :P
[02:17] <archangelpetro> for now ;)
[02:17] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: though, to be honest, I've found ruby very speedy
[02:17] <Raz`> been there, nether.
[02:17] <archangelpetro> oh?
[02:17] <Raz`> it's installed, just having a few probs getting it to work properly
[02:17] <archangelpetro> ChrisWhite: are u from UK?
[02:17] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: I wrote a script once to re-organize the data types of about 59 tables complete with foreign key constraint logic
[02:17] <netherwolf> Raz': *shrugs*Worked for me.
[02:17] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: it ran in less than 30 seconds
[02:17] <Raz`> well, I'm using AMD64
[02:17] <archangelpetro> nice
[02:17] <Raz`> I think that's the issue here
[02:17] <Foorael> PhillipElHaxor: Is sudo apt-get install rtorrent not working?
[02:17] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: nope, US
[02:17] <Captain_Redbeard> THX-1138: well... I was wondering when it will show up in the reps...
[02:17] <netherwolf> Raz': Ditto
[02:18] <Raz`> o rly?
[02:18] <media_> anyone worked around the problem of nothing but crackling audio when trying to watch a movie with DD or DTS, using an external amplifier and coax or optical out?
[02:18] <netherwolf> Raz': yup
[02:18] <archangelpetro> Raz`: what program?
[02:18] <Raz`> what program what?
[02:18] <PhillipElHaxor> Foorael: says it can't find the package
[02:18] <Raz`> well when I run it in terminal, it pretty much just nukes my toolbars.
[02:18] <archangelpetro> that ur hacing difficulty?
[02:18] <Raz`> kinda like crashing explorer.exe in windows.
[02:18] <archangelpetro> having*
[02:18] <Raz`> XGL
[02:18] <archangelpetro> ah
[02:18] <Foorael> PhillipElHaxor: Have you enabled the extra repos yet?
[02:18] <Raz`> I installed the default nvidia drivers that came with ubuntu, I believe
[02:19] <PhillipElHaxor> Foorael: ?
[02:19] <archangelpetro> ChrisWhite: well i may have a look at ruby see what it's like.. but i much prefer the C dialect and its derivatives
[02:19] <netherwolf> Raz': Dapper6 in 64-bit mode. Took me two hours of screwing around with XGL/Compiz to get it working.
[02:19] <Foorael> PhillipElHaxor: OK, you havent't. Use sudo + favorite editor to open up /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <netherwolf> Raz': Did you get the special nVidia drivers off the nVidia website?
[02:19] <Raz`> I'm gonna update my drivers again
[02:20] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: it depends on what exactly you expect from a language
[02:20] <archangelpetro> Raz`: did u try nvidia-glx?
[02:20] <Raz`> no, nether. I couldn't get them to work properly, some error about running in root.
[02:20] <Foorael> PhillipElHaxor: Uncomment any lines that have "dapper" in the line.
[02:20] <Raz`> i'm going to update them via command line again
[02:20] <archangelpetro> ChrisWhite:  well i tend to make stand alone app style programs, and for any kind of 'quick script' i use perl
[02:20] <Raz`> already newest version.
[02:20] <netherwolf> Raz': The ubuntu package? No, I think I installed the nVidia driver from the OEM site, modified my configuration and it worked.
[02:21] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: well, most of what languages get down to are performance versus maintainability
[02:21] <Foorael> PhillipElHaxor: Tell me when you're done.
[02:21] <ChrisWhite> archangelpetro: C has great performance, but maintaining it can be a pita sometimes
[02:21] <Raz`> I ran the nvidia driver installer and it just errored and quit.
[02:21] <Raz`> I have it on my desktop.
[02:21] <Raz`> let me try.
[02:21] <Foorael> ChrisWhite: Properly written C is not hard to maintain.
[02:21] <archangelpetro> ChrisWhite: yea :P C++ gets that way too at times..
[02:21] <archangelpetro> Foorael: properly written anything isnt hard to maintain, but how many people write it properly? :P
[02:21] <ChrisWhite> Foorael: yes, but getting down to writing "properly written C" is another story
[02:22] <dibblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/XxvlQj22.html what does it mean if a machine starts booting the kernel with "RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data" ?
[02:22] <netherwolf> Raz': Problem is, I hardly use my ubuntu on this machine. I'm more of a windows for play, linux for work. And my penguin box is a server so graphics are moot.
[02:22] <Raz`> Yeah
[02:22] <PhillipElHaxor> working on it...
[02:22] <dibblego> C is a crap language
[02:22] <Raz`> Me too, I just kinda want to see what they've done with XGL.
[02:22] <archangelpetro> dibblego: that's so bad :(
[02:22] <Raz`> sides, I have a 7900GT, might as well put it to use
[02:22] <dibblego> archangelpetro, thankfully there are solutions
[02:22] <netherwolf> Raz': Oh it's fun.
[02:22] <Foorael> archangelpetro, ChrisWhite: So really the only problem is that the language is not forcing people to write in maintainable style?
[02:22] <netherwolf> Raz': Vista can't touch it.
[02:22] <Raz`> lol.
[02:22] <archangelpetro> dibblego: C is cool, but really i rarely use it cuz there's better languages for what i code
[02:22] <dibblego> Foorael, it's an inherent trait of all imperative languages
[02:22] <Raz`> ok it's wanting me to 'sh' the run file.
[02:23] <Raz`> how would I point it to where the file is, on my desktop?
[02:23] <dibblego> archangelpetro, precisely
[02:23] <Raz`> I'm not familair with the way linux organizes files yet.
[02:23] <Foorael> Raz: Your desktop is at /home/username/Desktop/
[02:23] <netherwolf> Raz': are you in a non-X terminal?
[02:23] <archangelpetro> Foorael: well perhaps
[02:23] <Raz`> ok
[02:23] <Raz`> I'm running terminal on another desktop
[02:23] <kitche> Raz' sh <path> most likely it would be sudo sh /home/<user>/desktop
[02:23] <netherwolf> Raz': X can't be running at all.
[02:23] <archangelpetro> dibblego: aye.. but it doesnt mean C is bad.. when it comes down to nitty gritty things.. then it's very good at doing that
[02:23] <Raz`> o rly?
[02:23] <dibblego> so wtf does "RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data" mean exactly? a busted disk?
[02:23] <PhillipElHaxor> Fooreal: Done
[02:24] <dibblego> archangelpetro, I disagree, C is terrible
[02:24] <PhillipElHaxor> i assume i can just do it now?
[02:24] <kitche> dibbleego: ran out of ram space
[02:24] <archangelpetro> dibblego: well :P disagree all u want ;) hehe
[02:24] <dibblego> archangelpetro, most people who study language theory disagree :)
[02:24] <Raz`> Heh, I must have hit the wrong key combo, cause the desktop restarted.
[02:24] <Raz`> so, I need to go to a lower runlevel, then
[02:24] <netherwolf> I'd be very surprised to see a RAMDISK crash. How did you manage that?
[02:24] <dibblego> archangelpetro, I'm used to being a minority :)
[02:24] <dibblego> netherwolf, I turned a machine on
[02:24] <Foorael> archangelpetro, ChrisWhite, dibblego: Of course, I may be biased towards C because my main projects right now are messing around with kernel level programming.
[02:24] <archangelpetro> dibblego: language theory in a natural language sense or a computer language sense?
[02:24] <Raz`> it's home/username/desktop?
[02:25] <dibblego> archangelpetro, programming language theory
[02:25] <Raz`> case sensitive or no
[02:25] <PhillipElHaxor> Fooreal: Nope, still can't do it.  Need an install?
[02:25] <PhillipElHaxor> whoops
[02:25] <PhillipElHaxor> restart i mean
[02:25] <Foorael> Raz: /home/username/Desktop case sensitive
[02:25] <netherwolf> dibblego: maybe you need to increase it's size.
[02:25] <archangelpetro> Foorael: i'm all for C, but the lack of a true OO paradigm does limit it somewhat..
[02:25] <Raz`> okay. what runlevel do I need to be at?
[02:25] <Foorael> PhillipElHaxor: After doing that, you need ot run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:25] <dibblego> archangelpetro, there are few people with knowledge of FP languages who think imperative languages have any use at all
[02:25] <netherwolf> I think runlevel 3.
[02:25] <dibblego> archangelpetro, usually it's just some argument in their head that they haven't gone over properly
[02:25] <Raz`> k lemme try.
[02:25] <archangelpetro> hehe
[02:26] <Raz`> to come back to the GUI, it's runlevel 5?
[02:26] <netherwolf> yup
[02:26] <Raz`> k.
[02:26] <qmf> i followed the xgl/compiz for ati tutorial from the forums earlier today and it worked a treat until i broke it. so a fresh install and following the tutorial again but it didn't work this time.. nore the next 2 more fresh installs, any ideas?
[02:26] <archangelpetro> tbh, each language has it's strengths and when it wanders away from those areas of expertise its shortcomings become alot more obvious
[02:26] <dibblego> netherwolf, I don't understand why I need to do anything with the hardware
[02:26] <archangelpetro> its*
[02:26] <netherwolf> dibblego: you don't.
[02:26] <Raz`> runlevel 3 gets me 'unknown'
[02:26] <dibblego> archangelpetro, again, I disagree, some languages contain inherent contradictions within a given set of axioms
[02:26] <kitche> Raz' init 3
[02:27] <archangelpetro> example?
[02:27] <Raz`> sorry for all the questions, but you're really helping me understand this bit by bit :P
[02:27] <netherwolf> Raz:hmm...
[02:27] <kitche> sudo init 3 to be exact Raz'
[02:27] <netherwolf> Raz': it's OK.
[02:27] <dibblego> archangelpetro, I am writing a book on it - to address a layperson audience - but I can show you some papers that do it using mathematics
[02:27] <Raz`> init 3 executed, but did nothing
[02:27] <archangelpetro> ok :D that'd be cool :)
[02:27] <kitche> Raz' did you do sudo init 3?
[02:27] <Raz`> yes
[02:27] <Raz`> it executed, but did nothing that I can see, rather
[02:28] <kitche> Raz' well you have to get out of X
[02:28] <Foorael> archangelpetro, dibblego: Maybe we should move the lang talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <Raz`> I shut down X how?
[02:28] <kitche> Raz' and kill gdm
[02:28] <dibblego> Foorael, np
[02:28] <hokatichenci> I'm having trouble installing dosemu for dapper drake, the packages that are available in apt sources don't work (no X support, lots of other bugs). The suggested workaround is to install it from the .deb files that debian has, but when I do that I get an error about libc6 dependancies
[02:28] <Foorael> Raz: Hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:28] <Raz`> that restarts X, doesn't it?
[02:28] <PhillipElHaxor> Fooreal: I'm getting errors. I'm trying to restart, then I'll try again
[02:28] <kitche> Raz' that kills X
[02:28] <Raz`> k, bbs
[02:28] <kholerabbi> Can it effect the sound in any way if I am doing something on my computer while extracting audio from a cd into ogg vorbis?
[02:29] <OmniD> Hello. I would like to hear Air America however it seems they only support real player or windows media player for their radio show. Does anyone know of anyway I may listen or any other alternative to hear it?
[02:29] <surgy> whats an alternative to k3b for writing vcd ?
[02:29] <Managu> kholerabbi: there might be some timing issues reading the CDDA, especially if it's from an older drive.
[02:29] <surgy> omnid: i think vcd and helix should solve your problems
[02:29] <kitche> OmniD: install Helix it's realplayer for linux kinda hard to install though
[02:29] <kholerabbi> Managu: OK, and that might cause slight glitches in the playback?
[02:30] <liquidtenmillion> OmniD: There IS a real player for linux that you can download if you need to.
[02:30] <surgy> i need a program other than k3b for writing vcd
[02:30] <Managu> kholerabbi: possible, yes.
[02:30] <kholerabbi> Managu: thanks
[02:30] <OmniD> vcd?
[02:30] <Raz`> ctrl-alt-bs just threw me back to the login screen
[02:30] <kitche> Raz': you have to kill gdm also
[02:30] <Foorael> Raz: Oh, you want to permanently kill x?
[02:30] <surgy> omnid: video cd
[02:30] <dibblego> I think it is a corrupted kernel install - can I revert it from the live CD? I did it once, but forget what I did
[02:30] <OmniD> ah
[02:30] <THX-1138> I think you can use the open source helix player for real streams - real shares their code
[02:30] <Raz`> I'm going to install these nvidia drivers
[02:31] <Raz`> and I have to shut down X and gdm, and I don't know how yet :P
[02:31] <OmniD> Well it's only internet radio
[02:31] <OmniD> So it's not video
[02:31] <Managu> Raz: (off the top of my head) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:31] <Foorael> Raz: OK. sudo killall -9 gdm /usr/bin/X
[02:31] <surgy> omnid: go get helix installed it will fix your real player for you
[02:31] <OmniD> Okay
[02:32] <kitche> omiD: just so you know the helix install is a bit tough unless there is a package for it
[02:32] <Raz`> GDM stopped. NOW ctrl-alt-bs?
[02:32] <dibblego> how do you revert a kernel upgrade with the live CD?
[02:32] <w30> surgy, check out Serpentine, it's in the synaptic repositories
[02:32] <surgy> w30: thnx
[02:32] <kitche> Raz': or just exit X it should shutdown
[02:32] <cynical> Omnid: if you add canonical's repository you can get realplayer10.
[02:33] <cynical> Omnid: you just add this, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[02:33] <hokatichenci> Anyone successfully installed dosemu/freedos on dapper drake?
[02:33] <Raz`> nvidia installer must be run as root
[02:33] <cynical> Omnid: and then do sudo apt-get update   sudo apt-get install realplay
[02:33] <Raz`> I was in command line
[02:33] <surgy> w30: i allready have serpentine and it is for writing audio cds
[02:33] <OmniD> I'd... rather install helix first
[02:33] <OmniD> As I really don't like RealPlayer
[02:33] <kitche> Raz': did you sudo?
[02:33] <w30> surgy, then there is grip for ripping audio cd's
[02:33] <ericz> is it difficult to start using lilo instead of grub? can i find a tutorial somewhere?
[02:34] <dibblego> is there a wiki page to revert a kernel upgrade with the live CD?
[02:34] <cynical> OmniD: why not? They look exactly the same on linux
[02:34] <Raz`> I'll try that
[02:34] <surgy> w30: i dont want anything to do with audio cds
[02:34] <cynical> OmniD: realplayer in linux is very nice compared to the windows version
[02:34] <OmniD> I'm sure it does all the more reason not to
[02:34] <Raz`> btw, whenever I'm not in X, my display looks like trash. How do I configure my display settings for the command line interface?
[02:34] <surgy> w30: i want to burn a vcd
[02:34] <OmniD> Well allright, I'll try both
[02:34] <Foorael> Raz: I don't know too much about that, but look into "framebuffer".
[02:34] <surgy> w30: i allready converted it to mpeg2 now i need a program to burn it other than k3b
[02:34] <OmniD> But if it's as ugly and bloated as the windows version I'm going to try helix
[02:35] <Raz`> framebuffer? where
[02:35] <Raz`> a conf file?
[02:35] <netherwolf> Raz': Don't worry abou framebuffers for right now.
[02:35] <cynical> OmniD: haha no, I was surprised myself. In fact, I would use it as my default player if it had support for anything other than realmedia files
[02:35] <netherwolf> Raz': Just run the installer, and it will be OK.
[02:35] <sethk> Raz`, frame buffer has nothing to do with your problem
[02:35] <Raz`> ok, it's saying I don't have binutils installed now.
[02:35] <OmniD> It does
[02:35] <netherwolf> sudo apt-get install binutils
[02:35] <OmniD> says OGG and some others
[02:35] <Raz`> No, I have another problem, mainly that my command line and bootup screens are displaying with a horrible resolution.
[02:36] <netherwolf> ewww...
[02:36] <cynical> OmniD: It supports open formats. But nothing you would find on the web (wmv/avi/etc)
[02:36] <OmniD> Oh
[02:36] <jazzspazz> for some reason it is not letting me umount my storage sata hard drive any ideas?
[02:36] <kitche> jazzspazz: are you on that hard drive?
[02:36] <jazzspazz> umount: /mnt/storage: device is busy
[02:36] <jazzspazz> no
[02:36] <w30> surgy, there is DVDStyler for making video cd's with menus etc.
[02:36] <jazzspazz> it is my storage hard drive
[02:37] <Raz`> ok, it's ready to install now. I wish there were an easier way to remember these command line commands, cause I can't remember how to stop GDM. lol
[02:37] <jazzspazz> even after i reboot i cant umount it
[02:37] <ChrisWhite> jazzspazz: are you in the directory /mnt/storage?
[02:37] <jazzspazz> no
[02:37] <jazzspazz> NO
[02:37] <ChrisWhite> that's the usual cause of that
[02:37] <Hor|zon> Raz`, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:37] <netherwolf> Raz': Good Luck!
[02:37] <ChrisWhite> hmm, would need to use a file -> process mapper then to figure it out
[02:38] <surgy> w30: not in the repos
[02:38] <w30> surgy, and DVDAuthor
[02:38] <ChrisWhite> jazzspazz: you can try lsof and check it against the folder/device node
[02:38] <jazzspazz> umount /mnt/storage -l that worked for me
[02:38] <jazzspazz> rip lilo
[02:38] <jazzspazz> peace
[02:38] <w30> DVDAuthor should be in the repos
[02:39] <Raz`> I have to fix my command line interface resolution before I can do anything.
[02:39] <Foorael> w30: Then package and submit it.
[02:39] <Raz`> it's so bad that it's off the bottom of the screen, I can't see to type
[02:39] <chuckyp> How do you purge uninstalled packages from aptitude?  like if I dpkg -l they still show up
[02:39] <Nihil85> hi! i have a strange problem: it's one week that i cannot start ubuntu (even in safe mode). It crashes at "mounting local file system", even if i start ubuntu with the live version.
[02:39] <Nihil85> any clue?
[02:39] <netherwolf> surgy: If you're not opposed to command-line, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77074.html
[02:39] <a8514> #ubuntu-es
[02:39] <Hor|zon> Ra\what you want is to add the vga argument to your grub
[02:39] <Hor|zon> Raz`*
[02:39] <Raz`> okay, horizon. where do I configure grub?
[02:40] <sethk> Nihil85, boot the live cd and try running fsck on the root file system
[02:40] <THX-1138> pmap - feel the power :)
[02:40] <chuckyp> Raz`: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:40] <THX-1138> pmap is amazing - nice tip - THX
[02:41] <ootput> Nihil85: where is your root filesystem? Did you specify the correct location in your bootloader's config?
[02:41] <Hor|zon> Raz`, what resolution so you want?
[02:41] <Raz`> uh
[02:41] <Hor|zon> do you want*
[02:41] <Raz`> i'd prefer something like 1024x769
[02:41] <Raz`> er, 8
[02:41] <Raz`> for the command line
[02:41] <ootput> vga=791
[02:41] <Hor|zon> 792 isn't it?
[02:41] <Hor|zon> 71 is 16bit
[02:42] <Hor|zon> 791 is 16bit i mean
[02:42] <Raz`> ok, vga isn't defined in menu.lst. I'll define it, what number do I need
[02:42] <ootput> Hor|zon: how will you benefit from 24bit cli?
[02:42] <ootput> Raz`: # defoptions=vga=791
[02:42] <THX-1138> blacker blacks, whiter whites ??
[02:42] <Hor|zon> well if you run something that uses a framebuffer you would right?
[02:42] <Hor|zon> or not?
[02:42] <PhillipElHaxor> Fooreal: you still on?  I'm having some issues
[02:42] <Hor|zon> like lynx?
[02:43] <ootput> then you're not supposed to be using 'vga='
[02:43] <Raz`> read only, and it won't let me overwrite.
[02:43] <Raz`> how do I sudo a window :P
[02:43] <ootput> Raz`: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:43] <netherwolf> what are you in right now, KDE, GNOME?
[02:43] <Raz`> me?
[02:43] <Raz`> Gnome
[02:44] <Hor|zon> ootput, why aren't you supposed to use vga for that case? o.O
[02:44] <netherwolf> gksudo
[02:44] <ootput> Hor|zon: I'd think you'd be using "video=" instead of a simple "vga="
[02:44] <netherwolf> KDE uses kdesu
[02:44] <steveire> can I make pdfs open in firefox instead of having to download/use kpdf?
[02:45] <Raz`> ok, changed.
[02:45] <Raz`> do I need to reboot for it to take effect?
[02:45] <netherwolf> yep
[02:45] <Raz`> kay
[02:45] <ootput> Raz`: no, update-grub beforehand
[02:45] <Raz`> lol
[02:45] <netherwolf> my bad
[02:46] <Raz`> ok, that's done. now I'll go do those nvidia drivers
[02:46] <netherwolf> Good luck!
[02:46] <narg> steveire: last I checked, firefox can't open pdfs on its own, so it has to use an external source somehow
[02:46] <PhillipElHaxor> anyone got a solution for update not wokring?
[02:46] <steveire> A plugin of kpdf?
[02:46] <narg> steveire: Though it may be able to embed a program to do it
[02:47] <Raz`> didn't change my resolution
[02:47] <Raz`> maybe I need to restart on it
[02:47] <cafuego> steveire: No, but adobe have a plugin.
[02:47] <ootput> Raz`: what does the boot entry (the one you selected) say when you hit 'e' to edit it @ boot?
[02:47] <Raz`> the grub file?
[02:47] <narg> konqueror embeds everything, so I stick with that ;)
[02:47] <netherwolf> yeah, he's talking about that.
[02:48] <netherwolf> In the grub menu
[02:48] <Raz`> omg it didn't save
[02:48] <Raz`> I edited it through terminal
[02:48] <botxj> i have a 2560x1024 desktop, dual monitor, single frame buffer, where can i get nice wallpapers for a resolution like that?
[02:48] <Hor|zon> lol botxj, still looking?
[02:48] <ootput> Raz`: which editor?
[02:48] <Raz`> nano?
[02:48] <botxj> Hor|zon..um...yes....
[02:48] <cafuego> botxj: Nowhere, probably. You'll need to use gimp and do your own.
[02:48] <ootput> Raz`: and how did you leave said editor?
[02:49] <botxj> damn
[02:49] <Nihil85> sethk: the live cd doesn't work... it crashes also at "mounting root file system"
[02:49] <Raz`> ctrl-x, Yes
[02:49] <ubuntu> hello
[02:49] <botxj> maybe i can merge two wallpapers together
[02:49] <Hor|zon> ctrl+o is save
[02:49] <Raz`> ok, I've modified it in nano again.
[02:49] <srbaker> hey everyone
[02:49] <Raz`> ctrl-o, then x. ok
[02:49] <netherwolf> I prefer joe.
[02:49] <srbaker> i'm looking for the laptop with the longest possible battery life
[02:49] <netherwolf> =D
[02:49] <srbaker> any suggestions?
[02:49] <JamieBE> Hi guys and girls, how can I run the program Imagemagick??
[02:49] <srbaker> preferably one i can order without an OS preinstalled
[02:49] <Raz`> alright, that saved.
[02:49] <Foorael> JamieBE: Imagemagick isn't a program.
[02:49] <ootput> Raz`: grep defoptions /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <Nihil85> ootput: i never changed the root filesystem... and linux some days ago worked very well, now suddenly it doesn't work
[02:49] <keescook> JamieBE: Imagemagick has many tools.  see "man convert"
[02:50] <ootput> Nihil85: does your fstab look okay?
[02:50] <cafuego> JamieBE: There is no such program. it's a set of tools with different names.
[02:50] <ubuntu> msg me plz, how to test my temperature over procesor at ubuntu 5.04
[02:50] <JamieBE> How can I use it then?
[02:50] <Caplin> hey
[02:50] <Caplin> hey
[02:50] <JamieBE> I need to batch convert a whole load of images to create thumbnails
[02:50] <Caplin> whats the package name for vnc server?
[02:51] <nu> !codec
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <ootput> JamieBE: scrot should be able to do that pretty easily
[02:51] <nu> !decoder
[02:51] <Foorael> Caplin: There are many. I use x11vnc
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Raz`> ok, what the hell. I saved it with ctrl-o, it WAS saved
[02:51] <keescook> JamieBE: for that kind of task, the "convert" tool should be able to help you.  Something like "convert -geometry 100x50 original.png thumb.png"
[02:51] <Raz`> but when I shut down GDM and X, it un-saved
[02:51] <nu> how would i go about playing mpegs/avi's?
[02:51] <netherwolf> DOWN WITH VNC! X OVER SSH! MWAHAHA!!
[02:52] <Raz`> read-only really does mean read-only in linux =/
[02:52] <THX-1138>  a small number of VERY large wallpapershttp://www.deepgraysea.com/leftcoastwallpaper.htm
[02:52] <Hor|zon> omg there's a program to do that ooput? I resorted to learning imagemagick and writing a bash script ;_;
[02:52] <JamieBE> keescook - Why should I be doing it at command line level - Isn't there a GUI to go with it?
[02:52] <Hor|zon> although I learnt how cool imagemagick is in the proccess
[02:52] <Hor|zon> >.>
[02:52] <netherwolf> did you sudo update-grub
[02:52] <nu> lol Hor|zon
[02:52] <Raz`> yeah im pretty sure i did
[02:52] <Raz`> it updated all grub configs
[02:52] <netherwolf> hmm...
[02:52] <nu> How do play mpegs/avis/mp3s?
[02:52] <Raz`> sudo update-grub beforehand
[02:52] <Raz`>  is what I did
[02:52] <Foorael> nu: Are you new to linux or do you have experience building things? If you have some experience, I reccomend building mplayer from scratch, otherwise,
[02:52] <Raz`> then I shut down X
[02:52] <hokatichenci> Once again, has anybody gotten dosemu/freedos to work on dapper drake in any form?
[02:52] <narg> !mp3
[02:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <keescook> JamieBE: I'm not sure about an Imagemick GUI.  (I hadn't seen "scrot" before...)
[02:53] <Foorael> !codecs > nu
[02:53] <netherwolf> No afterward.
[02:53] <Raz`> maybe I'm putting it in the file wrong? I'm seeing # and ##
[02:53] <ootput> Raz`: does your grub in mbr point to the _correct_ /boot partition?
[02:53] <Raz`> are they both commented lines?
[02:53] <nu> Foorael: im a total nubcake
[02:53] <nu> basically use synaptic for everything
[02:53] <Raz`> im sure it does, ootput, it loads ubuntu and xp for me
[02:53] <Raz`> it's properly configured
[02:53] <ootput> Raz`: ## are comment-lines in the traditional sense. update-grub uses # as instructions
[02:53] <netherwolf> hooray!
[02:53] <Raz`> alright ootput, that's the problem then
[02:53] <nu> thanks narg
[02:54] <JamieBE> keescook: using that convert line, is there a way of processing an entire folder at once?
[02:54] <JamieBE> I have about 600 of these things to process.
[02:54] <ootput> Raz`: i.e, you don't need to remove the # in front of the defoptions line
[02:54] <Raz`> do I replace defoptions=quiet splash with vga=791?
[02:54] <david_> can anyone tell me an inexpensive wireless adapter that works with linux?
[02:54] <narg> JamieBE: you can write a bash/python script to do it
[02:54] <netherwolf> just add it in on the end.
[02:54] <Hor|zon> yeah Raz`, add it on the end
[02:55] <Raz`> so # defoptions=quiet splash=vga=791
[02:55] <Decadent> how can i unrar files that are of that type dmd-fwdaj.r00 dmd-fwdaj.r01.....
[02:55] <JamieBE> narg: No I can't.
[02:55] <Raz`> was quiet capitalized? I hate case sensitive stuff.
[02:55] <narg> JamieBE: or I can write you one quick. Will that work?
[02:55] <Foorael> Decadent: for i in *; do rar x $i; done;
[02:55] <JamieBE> narg: Sounds loverly :)
[02:55] <Foorael> Decadent: While in the containing folder.
[02:55] <Decadent> the arcive manager doesnt consider them is rars
[02:55] <ootput> Raz`: this is linux.. hardly anything is capitalised ;)
[02:55] <Raz`> or do I do defoptions=quiet splash vga=791
[02:55] <ootput> except for tags and titles in textfiles
[02:56] <Raz`> with no equals between the two
[02:56] <narg> !pastebin
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:56] <ootput> Raz`: move quiet splash to kopt
[02:56] <Raz`> ootput: ?
[02:56] <david_> i read that 802.11 works better, but does that mean if i buy an 802.11 it will work? and what about 802.11g?
[02:56] <eyequeue> Raz`, no = after splash
[02:56] <Raz`> so that'll work, eye?
[02:57] <Decadent> Foorael, what do u mean??
[02:57] <SurfnKid> david_, 802.11 is the same with b or g it just uses a different type of frequency encoding
[02:57] <eyequeue> Raz`, show us the line again please?
[02:57] <Raz`> # defoptions=quiet splash vga=791
[02:57] <eyequeue> Raz`, okay, cool
[02:57] <SurfnKid> david_, to get better rates than b
[02:57] <Raz`> k, let's try these drivers then
[02:57] <ootput> Raz`: no offense, but you should really consult the manpage for that
[02:57] <ootput> Raz`: http://pastebin.ca/173514
[02:57] <keescook> JamieBE: I usually do tricks with "find" and "xargs":   find . -nam  g' | xargs -Ifilename -n1 convert -geometry 100x50 filename filename.thumb
[02:57] <narg> JamieBE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23693 You'll have to replace the like with the command to whatever you need
[02:57] <david_> but if i buy a cheap $10 802.11 is more or less likely to work with linux?
[02:58] <netherwolf> All this so Raz' can get the nVidia drivers going. Heaven help us when we try to explain XGL and Compiz!!!
[02:58] <keegan_> I recently installed Ktorrent 2.0.2 on Xubuntu.  Now when I click on it from the menu it will not load up.  Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[02:58] <narg> JamieBE: Note that the 'item' variable is the filename
[02:58] <SurfnKid> david_, depends on what interface you're using, usb, miniPCI, pcmcia
[02:58] <ootput> netherwolf: heh
[02:58] <Luakagon> What are the three commands to build a tarball?  I've done .configure...
[02:58] <keescook> JamieBE: sorry, that shouldve been -name '*.png'  for the find args
[02:58] <david_> it would be a pci add on card\
[02:58] <SurfnKid> david_, and also if the driver manufacturer is supported
[02:59] <netherwolf> Took me 2 hours of hunting down forum posts and tweaking settings. Never again.
[02:59] <david_> i wouldn't want to push my luck with trying usb
[02:59] <levander> Anyone else is having trouble with ntp after dapper upgrade?  I'm getting some error about not being able to use any servers.
[02:59] <eyequeue> netherwolf, at least that's not in this channel
[02:59] <ootput> david_: is it a used item? why is it so cheap?
[02:59] <Raz`> defoptions=vga=791 quiet splash is in the file, saved. I reloaded grub, and my resolution still is the same
[02:59] <Luakagon> There's no howto :'(
[02:59] <Hor|zon> lol
[02:59] <Raz`> does it require a restart even if you reload grub?
[02:59] <keegan_> I recently installed Ktorrent 2.0.2 on Xubuntu.  Now when I click on it from the menu it will not load up.  Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[02:59] <david_> i found it on the internet
[03:00] <yoguess> can someone help me mount a partition with read & write accress rights?
[03:00] <david_> haven't bought it
[03:00] <SurfnKid> david_, then look at the wifi compatibility list of adapters
[03:00] <liquidtenmillion> keegan_: try running it from a terminal and posting the error
[03:00] <JamieBE> Thanks people
[03:00] <ootput> david_: is it an online store, or a private auction?
[03:00] <SurfnKid> david_, if its supported you got a good chance itll work
[03:00] <ootput> david_: i.e, try to get some info on it from the seller before buying
[03:00] <harisund> What's the best way I can get a DOS environment on my Ubuntu box? VMware? What shall I emulate?
[03:00] <keegan_> liquidtenmillion: The error says "ktorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libgmp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:00] <keegan_> "
[03:00] <david_> ok, ill look into it
[03:01] <ootput> harisund: for games, i use dosbox
[03:01] <netherwolf> BOCHS? Dosbox? Freedos over Xen?*shrugs*
[03:01] <harisund> dosbox? Is that free?
[03:01] <david_> where do i find a list of compatible hardweare?
[03:01] <harisund> netherwolf: why the *shrug* ??
[03:01] <eyequeue> !hardware > david_
[03:01] <ootput> harisund: there are a few to choose from
[03:01] <narg> harisund: yes
[03:01] <liquidtenmillion> keegan_: install libgmp3 package
[03:01] <netherwolf> haven't played with DOS in linux for a LONG time.
[03:02] <harisund> I see.. ok ... so FreeDOS and DosBOX apparetnly are good ones..
[03:02] <yoguess> can someone please help me with mounting a PARTITION? please
[03:02] <Raz`> I have no idea how the file could be wrong this time. lol
[03:02] <ootput> I keep dos around for my old apogee duke nukem's
[03:02] <aurax> hello
[03:02] <silvaran> yoguess: What kind of partition?
[03:02] <aurax> can anyone help me out with ulimit issue
[03:02] <harisund> ootput: yeah .. I know what you are talking about :)
[03:02] <keegan_> liquidtenmillion: libgmp3 has no installation candidates
[03:02] <narg> aurax: what is the issue?
[03:02] <Raz`> ootput, does grub require a restart to change resolutions even if you reload it?
[03:02] <netherwolf> I think there was an article in one of the Linux mags about VMPlayer and FreeDOS.
[03:02] <aurax> i want to perm set ulimit's its allways reset to -n 1024
[03:02] <yoguess> it was ext3, but had lots of trouble, noone could help, so i farmatted it to ext2
[03:03] <david_> I've never heard of minipci
[03:03] <david_> what is it?
[03:03] <ootput> Raz`: do me a favor, and post the output of mount | grep boot
[03:03] <david_> does it work in a pci slot?
[03:03] <silvaran> yoguess: If it's recently formatted, you should be okay... what are the symptoms?
[03:03] <yoguess> david, mini pci for LAptops
[03:03] <netherwolf> afk
[03:03] <narg> aurax: in ~/.bashrc add ulimit -n 1024
[03:03] <ootput> david_: used in most soekris'
[03:03] <yoguess> silvaran, wont mount properly, and when it does i cant write to it
[03:04] <Raz`> it did nothing in terminal, oot
[03:04] <Raz`> it executed invisible
[03:04] <aurax> narg just add it ?
[03:04] <keegan_> liquidtenmillion: I got thanks dude.
[03:04] <aurax> ok
[03:04] <ootput> Raz`: then you don't have a separate /boot partition
[03:04] <Raz`> but I do
[03:04] <Raz`> er
[03:04] <liquidtenmillion> keegan_: ok good
[03:04] <narg> aurax: yea, just at the bottom
[03:04] <ootput> Raz`: makes sense?
[03:04] <Raz`> I made 2. a swap and root. damnit
[03:04] <Raz`> you're right
[03:04] <aurax> narg where are the global default settings in ?
[03:04] <narg> aurax: and then start a new shell or do source ~/.bashrc to activate it
[03:04] <yoguess> silvaran, i have 2 drives, first is 160gb and 2nd is 120gb
[03:05] <silvaran> yoguess: Have you tried '-o rw' during mount, to see if you can force rw?
[03:05] <Raz`> I guess I'm going to need to resize my root partition
[03:05] <silvaran> yoguess: Do you get anything unusual in dmesg?
[03:05] <Raz`> or maybe redo the whole thing
[03:05] <Raz`> damn
[03:05] <ootput> Raz`: no, that's not really necessary
[03:05] <narg> aurax: That only applies to you, global is /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:05] <Raz`> is there an easier way?
[03:05] <ootput> Raz`: try using a static boot entry
[03:05] <yoguess> i want to mount hda3 from first drive and hdb1 (whole) second drive
[03:05] <Raz`> how so
[03:05] <netherwolf> harisund: Actually the article said DR-DOS. But still, lots of fun.
[03:05] <ootput> Raz`: read through menu.lst
[03:06] <yoguess> "-0 rw" can you give me the exact command please?
[03:06] <netherwolf> NOT DR-DOS, OpenDOS
[03:06] <dr_willis> How about FreeDos. :P
[03:06] <narg> harisund: Your probably better off using dosbox than emulating dos with vmware
[03:06] <silvaran> yoguess: Anything unusual during partitioning (fdisk?).  This seems like it could be a hardware problem... your drives must be IDE right?
[03:06] <aurax> okay narg thx
[03:06] <dr_willis> dosbox - is dang handy for playing the old games.
[03:06] <yoguess> yes, IDE
[03:06] <ootput> anywho, out walking the pomeranian pillow-case destroyer.. brb
[03:06] <Raz`> I'm seeing some stuff about static boot in here
[03:06] <silvaran> yoguess: Well '-o' (that's an 'oh', not a zero) lets you pass additional options to the 'mount' command.  Are you trying to mount this from the command line, or from fstab?
[03:06] <yoguess> but no errors when creating or formatting the partition
[03:06] <dr_willis> you can set up a nautilus script to launch the dos games with the right dosbox commandline arguments
[03:07] <Neo8750> dr_willis: does dosbox allow one to emulated a slower processor like a 286?
[03:07] <narg> yea
[03:07] <Raz`> but I have no idea what an 'automagic kernels list' is, so I should probably refrain from typing things in
[03:07] <dr_willis> Neo8750,  i belive it does
[03:07] <netherwolf> For those, like myself, who ride the fence and still bow to the evil empire, VDMSound works great in Doze.
[03:07] <Neo8750> kickass
[03:07] <dr_willis> it seems to have options for most everything ya can need
[03:07] <yoguess> silvaran, only thing unususal is that when they DO mount there is a "Lost+Found" folder taking up 4-5GB space
[03:07] <w30> ootput, type displat at a terminal to get the Imagemagick program gui
[03:07] <dr_willis> but some of the games like doom, and so forth that use special memory managers may not work that great with it i hear
[03:08] <Raz`> what do I need to modify or add here? I'm in the right spot
[03:08] <silvaran> yoguess: Yeah that's not good.  lost+found is perfectly normal, but not when it contains files... especially 4-5G.  When did you notice the lost+found dir had that much in it?
[03:08] <yoguess> silvaran, trying to mount which ever way it works, once it does, auto mount on boot up
[03:08] <netherwolf> Raz': Where's that?
[03:08] <yoguess> there is nothing inside of the folder
[03:08] <Raz`> I don't have a boot partition, so oot said I need to configure a static boot
[03:08] <Raz`> in menu.lst
[03:09] <yoguess> i just see 4-5gb used space in gparted and partition magic
[03:09] <fourat69> i have installed a new dhcp server in my lan network, i would like to let people only use dhcp, no static addressing should be possible, how can this be possible ?
[03:09] <silvaran> yoguess: Well I would leave it out of your /etc/fstab until you can get it to mount manually, maybe with something like (as root) "mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 -o rw" ... and check your dmesg for anything unusual.
[03:10] <Raz`> I'm starting to think it'd be easier to make a boot partition than to configure a 'static boot stanza'
[03:10] <netherwolf> oh... oot, c'mon. If I'm understanding right, that's uncalled for. Raz', what he's saying is to repartition your drive to contain another partition. This shouldn't be necessary right now.
[03:10] <Raz`> okay
[03:10] <exs> Using ubuntu as a gateway for internet access with a windows box?
[03:10] <fourat69> i have installed a new dhcp server in my lan network, i would like to let people only use dhcp, no static addressing should be possible, how can this be possible ?
[03:11] <netherwolf> It does help, but not with installing video drivers.
[03:11] <Raz`> modifying grub isn't changing the resolution at my command line, though
[03:11] <netherwolf> Have you tried changing your monitor's vertical settings?
[03:11] <Raz`> No
[03:12] <yoguess> silvaran, where do i check "dmesg"
[03:12] <Raz`> but I'd like a decent resolution for my command line anyway
[03:12] <netherwolf> This is the part where I punish the wall with my forehead.
[03:12] <Raz`> heh
[03:12] <silvaran> yoguess: "dmesg" from the command line.  The kernel has a ring buffer where it stores critical messages that might not make it into /var/log/messages.
[03:12] <Raz`> Well I don't really know how to configure much at all yet in linux man
[03:12] <netherwolf> The wall has been bad. It must be punished. WHAM WHAM WHAM!!
[03:13] <Raz`> I'm not stupid, just linux ignorant :P
[03:13] <netherwolf> Is OK
[03:13] <Raz`> are vert settings in menu.lst too?
[03:13] <cArNaGe`> Uptime: 5 days, 7 hours and 5 minutes
[03:13] <Caplin> lol
[03:13] <netherwolf> um.... no, I meant on the monitor itself.
[03:13] <ootput> netherwolf: no, i asked him about his partition layout because I figured he may have a /boot partition, but that grub wasn't reading it at boot-up
[03:13] <yoguess> ok, im reading the log, what am i looking for?
[03:13] <Raz`> that's not gonna help, nether
[03:13] <Raz`> it's still rendering like crap
[03:14] <silvaran> yoguess: Anything to do with hdb1
[03:14] <ootput> netherwolf: he came up with his own conclusions
[03:14] <Raz`> I kinda want the same resolution in all my modes so I don't have to mess with my monitor
[03:14] <netherwolf> Sorry for the flame then.
[03:14] <cArNaGe`> Uptime: 5 days, 7 hours and 6 minutes
[03:14] <drumline> cArNaGe`: getting there.  :)
[03:14] <krashen> hello everyone
[03:15] <cArNaGe`> Sysinfo for 'linux': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ at 1300 MHz (2601 bogomips), HD: 23/109GB, RAM: 429/440MB, 101 proc's, 5.7d up
[03:15] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm.. this is funny... firefox refuses to play any sound when another application remotly relatded to multimedia is even running, doesn't even have to play anything... is there a way around this?
[03:15] <cArNaGe`> hahaha
[03:15] <levander> Are there any popular cross platform audio players?
[03:15] <surface> Captain_Redbeard:  ya i get this problem too
[03:15] <Raz`> Ugh, I should just make a boot partition
[03:15] <drumline> now that I finally got a battery backup, I'm around 130 days
[03:15] <Raz`> cause it seems that I can't modify grub at all
[03:15] <Captain_Redbeard> surface: do you have a solution for it?
[03:15] <eyequeue> levander, cross-platform?  gnome/kde?
[03:15] <ootput> Raz`: out of curiosity (and based on what I'm seeing so far) what do you plan on doing in the cli?
[03:15] <surface> Captain_Redbeard:  nope :P
[03:15] <Raz`> updating my nvidia drivers
[03:16] <levander> eyequeue: just the player, don't care about what platform
[03:16] <netherwolf> um... Raz' do you have extra room at the BEGINNING of your harddrive?
[03:16] <Raz`> but I want to make it all work properly anyway, I intend to learn linux
[03:16] <Neo8750> argh i need a 5/14 floopy driver
[03:16] <Neo8750> 5 1/4
[03:16] <Raz`> no =/
[03:16] <ootput> Raz`: there's no point in re-partitioning if you don't have a game-plan of what's to follow
[03:16] <levander> drumline: sounds like you got a battery backup four months ago
[03:16] <surface> Captain_Redbeard:  what i do is close the damn app, and restart firefox
[03:16] <silvaran> yoguess: You could always do something like 'dmesg | grep hdb' if you're in a hurry :).
[03:16] <netherwolf> Um... yeah.
[03:16] <Madpilot> Neo8750, a what? Do you also need a chisel to carve stone slabs with?
[03:16] <Raz`> Well, oot, you said there was a workaround of some sort?
[03:16] <Captain_Redbeard> anybody? is there a way to get mozilla/firefox to play music while other multimedia apps are running?
[03:16] <Raz`> do I have to have a boot partition for this to work?
[03:16] <eyequeue> levander, beep-media-player is good
[03:16] <netherwolf> No
[03:16] <drumline> levander: for that box, yep.
[03:16] <krashen> i've got a problem
[03:16] <ootput> Raz`: no, that's not what I specifically sed
[03:17] <ootput> *said
[03:17] <krashen> with my laptop
[03:17] <krashen> and linux
[03:17] <netherwolf> We all have problems krashen.
[03:17] <Raz`> okay then. I need to configure a static boot then, right?
[03:17] <ootput> Raz`: I wanted you to be sure of your partition layout
[03:17] <drumline> levander: actually, it was longer... but there was an outtage that lasted longer than the battery's charge.   Which is fine because I was able to shut it down gracefully.
[03:17] <Foorael> !ask > krashen
[03:17] <Raz`> my partition layout is what it will stay as as of right now, unless I need a boot partition
[03:17] <ootput> Raz`: what are the permissions on menu.lst?
[03:17] <krashen> i cannot see the batery level
[03:17] <Raz`> in which case I can always make room for it wherever
[03:17] <yoguess> silvaran, found hdb1 entry, but its from when the drive was ext3
[03:17] <Raz`> I can modify menu.lst fine. it's read only
[03:17] <ootput> Raz`: pastebin your menu.lst
[03:17] <Raz`> ok
[03:18] <silvaran> yoguess: Did you partition the drive since it was ext3?
[03:18] <cArNaGe`> quick question:  When I click on a http link in Konversation Bluefish editor starts    How do I get firefox to start instead?
[03:18] <yoguess> EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal
[03:18] <ootput> Raz`: and paste the result of ls -al /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:18] <yoguess> formatted
[03:18] <yoguess> since i had same problems on ext3, 4-5 gb used, would not allowe me to write, wouldnt mount properly
[03:18] <ootput> Raz`: http://pastebin.ca/upload.php
[03:18] <netherwolf> I remember the time I tried to resize an ext3 partition from the command-line. Never again.
[03:19] <Captain_Redbeard> surface: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:19] <surface> cArNaGe`:  no option or preference at bluefish?
[03:19] <Raz`> oot, that command resulted in -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4092 2006-09-16 20:58 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:19] <silvaran> yoguess: So where are you now?  Does the mount command work? (try "umount /dev/hdb1" first)
[03:19] <surface> Captain_Redbeard:  thx, look at it now
[03:19] <Raz`> and pastebin is taking its time with the other
[03:19] <krashen> any ideas about laptops batteries and linux?
[03:20] <eyequeue> krashen, i don't see them as related
[03:20] <Raz`> pastebin is just crapping out =/
[03:20] <yoguess> silvaran, ok i entered the umount commant
[03:20] <inglor> hey, I have a question
[03:20] <Madpilot> Raz`, you trying pastebin.com, or Ubuntu's own pastebin?
[03:20] <inglor> I wrote a script, I want it to execute in the GUI
[03:20] <Raz`> .com. bah. lemme fnd the other
[03:21] <inglor> like, internet.sh, and I want it to execute when double clicked
[03:21] <krashen> well, eyequeue my problem is that the icon tells me it is at 0% all the time
[03:21] <inglor> how would I do that?
[03:21] <krashen> u know what i mean?
[03:21] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Raz` about paste
[03:21] <Raz`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23695
[03:21] <wastrel> inglor:  create an icon and point it to the script, and check the "execute in terminal" box
[03:21] <eyequeue> krashen, my laptop doesn't seem to have that problem, sorry
[03:21] <Raz`> there's my menu.lst
[03:22] <wastrel> inglor:  right click on the desktop -> "create launcher"
[03:22] <krashen> okay, eyequeue, thanks a lot anyway
[03:22] <eyequeue> krashen, good luck on it, i'm not sure what to suggest
[03:22] <sadsadds>  irc.unirc.com.ar #sekurnet
[03:23] <leil> hey has anyone successfully installed aiglx on an intel 8252/855GM ?
[03:23] <krashen> okay i'll try to solve it anyway thanks again
[03:23] <Raz`> get that, oot?
[03:23] <netherwolf> Because I am evil and I hate all mankind, I'm going to tell Raz' that the background wallpaper on the GRUB menu can be changed.
[03:23] <dave_> quick question, ive got a p3 1000mhz, should i use image-386 or 686? and whats the difference really?
[03:23] <ootput> Raz`: yes
[03:24] <ootput> Raz`: looks good
[03:24] <Raz`> yes, now I can see the prettyness as I modify menu.lst 1000 more times.
[03:24] <Raz`> so what the hell, oot? lol
[03:24] <ootput> Raz`: my main concern is why your menu.lst reverts back to it's old state after every obot
[03:24] <ootput> *boot
[03:24] <anto9us> krashen: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ACPIBattery
[03:24] <Raz`> it doesn't anymore oot
[03:24] <Raz`> it just doesn't modify my resolution
[03:24] <Raz`> maybe I'm working on the wrong one
[03:24] <THX-1138> netherwolf - oh-noes! - our supere duper linux user customisation secret is out!  (psst - don't tell them about open source...)
[03:25] <ootput> Raz`: what are your monitor specs?
[03:25] <levander> Raz`: menu.lst gets regenerated according to the comments inside menu.lst
[03:25] <Raz`> but tbh I have never completely restarted ubuntu with this config, but I think I shut everything down properly
[03:25] <eyequeue> Raz`, you probably have already, but:  have you "cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~" yet? (to make a copy of the working version, before you tweak it too far)
[03:25] <Raz`> i got a copy
[03:25] <eyequeue> Raz`, good
[03:25] <netherwolf> You'll need to reboot with this config.
[03:25] <Raz`> ok, let me reboot and see if anything changes
[03:25] <levander> Raz`: if you edit that file, make sure to read the comments in that file and don't skip them
[03:26] <Raz`> nod
[03:26] <Raz`> brb
[03:26] <levander> Raz`: that file regenerates every time you upgrade the kernel
[03:26] <Raz`> regenerates? meaning it overwrites?
[03:26] <Raz`> or rather, the system will yell and scream if I mess it up
[03:26] <ootput> no, it runs update-grub
[03:26] <netherwolf> THX-1138: The secret is not safe in my hands.
[03:27] <ootput> Raz`: your customisations will remain intact
[03:27] <Raz`> well let me restart and see if it fixes anything
[03:27] <Raz`> brb guys
[03:27] <SatanGolga> uhm, how do u run .rpm-files in ubuntu?
[03:27] <yoguess> silvaran, in file browser, i only see floppy, cd-rom, and file system, no hda3 or hdb1
[03:27] <netherwolf> Satan: use alien
[03:27] <ootput> SatanGolga: use alien, convert, and view contents
[03:27] <jrib> SatanGolga: you try not to use rpm files
[03:28] <THX-1138> netherwolf - limitless possibilities - feel the power! muhahaha!   $cd /boot/grub $sudo ln -s splashimages/debsplash.xpm.gz splash.xpm.gz $sudo update-grub
[03:28] <silvaran> yoguess: I wouldn't worry about the GUI right now with this kind of problem, stick to the command line, it'll give you more information (like "mount", without any options, will tell you what is currently mounted)...
[03:28] <chaos_> where might I find the package containing the source tree for the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel?
[03:28] <chaos_> apparently I need it to compile something for the Nvidia drivers
[03:28] <ootput> chaos_: linux-source-2.6.15
[03:28] <livecduser> hey guys, i'm rnning off the live cd and having some trouble resizing an ntfs partition.  every time, it will fail.  is there a further way to diagnose this?
[03:28] <ootput> chaos_: and use /boot/config*-386 in /usr/src/linux/.config
[03:28] <usero> From the http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal
[03:29] <SatanGolga> ah, ok, thank you
[03:29] <anto9us> livecduser: you should check and defragment the partition in windows before resizing
[03:29] <yoguess> silvaran, hda1 is mounted, but there are 2 entires for hda3 and hdb1
[03:29] <livecduser> Ok.
[03:29] <netherwolf> THX-1138: I modified the PH43R T3H CUTE ONES wallpaper from MegaTokyo and used that. It's hilarious, but the black bars get in the frickin' way.
[03:29] <livecduser> i'll run and give it a shot.
[03:29] <livecduser> might be back :)
[03:30] <THX-1138> livecduser - defrag your ntfs partition - likely a bit of a file near the end of the disk segment you would like to resize.
[03:30] <silvaran> yoguess: What's hda3?  Is it your root filesystem?
[03:30] <chaos_> ootput, can you explain that please?
[03:30] <livecduser> thanks
[03:30] <yoguess> hda3, im trying to mount that, its on 1st drive, last partition
[03:30] <dpriv>  hey has anyone successfully installed aiglx on an intel 8252/855GM ?
[03:30] <usero> .. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal they referred to power management quirks... When AC power is unplugged from zd HP laptop, ubuntu 6.06 LTS locks up.  Also no advanced power management features in GUI for battery conserve mode... any tips?
[03:30] <netherwolf> THX:I'm actually trying to figure out a good wall for my BIOS boot up since my chip supports it.
[03:31] <THX-1138> netherwolf - hm - hadn't considered that. Do you have a link?
[03:31] <marshall> hey guys
[03:31] <yoguess> "/dev/hdb1 on /mnt/Backup type ext2 (rw)
[03:31] <THX-1138> Hi marshall
[03:32] <yoguess> "/dev/hda3 on /mnt/Storage type ext2 (rw)
[03:32] <Jj_> hey
[03:32] <marshall> i just followed the Firefox 2.0 beta howto on the forums, now i cant get any sound from flash in firefox
[03:32] <netherwolf> To the Megatokyo thing? Naw. Wish I did. My server is acting funny and I can't get the public IP to work.
[03:32] <marshall> any ideas?
[03:32] <Raz`> ok, made a lot of progress here, resolution is fine.
[03:32] <netherwolf> Hey Raz.  Good to hear.
[03:32] <Raz`> I can't believe I spent an hour fixing that when all I needed to do is reboot
[03:32] <ootput> Rez: spare no details
[03:32] <Jj_> I just installed a new nvidia card, but im getting this error
[03:33] <Jj_> (EE) Cannot find a replacement memory range
[03:33] <lufis> Anyone know how to change how many lines the mouse wheel scrolls?
[03:33] <yoguess> silvaran, hda3, im trying to mount that, its on 1st drive, last partition
[03:33] <Raz`> but the nvidia driver installer is wanting a ton of packages installed in order to work. I'm thinking I need to do some sort of broad download of packages rather than installing one at a time.
[03:33] <THX-1138> netherwolf - do you think marshall's trouble is with mozcontrl?
[03:33] <Raz`> it's asked for gcc, make, etc.
[03:33] <Jj_> (WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION****
[03:33] <netherwolf> THX: Lemme look.
[03:33] <Raz`> i've installed them one at a time and it keeps asking for more, lol
[03:34] <keegan_> Does anyone know how to transfer my firefox plugins into my flock browser?
[03:34] <Jj_> keegan_: you can symlink your ~/.mozilla/plugins to ~/.flock/plugins
[03:34] <Jj_> or whatever the paths are
[03:34] <yoguess> silvaran?
[03:34] <Raz`> any way to do a broad download of packages?
[03:34] <Raz`> like gcc, make, etc?
[03:34] <wastrel> hi
[03:34] <Trae> !ops
[03:34] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:35] <tedivm> question- i'm using a laptop, and i have the nice little thumbpad thing. back in the day, i would double tap the pad and hold and it would act like i was holding down the button, but now that i'm using ubuntu no such luck
[03:35] <Trae> can we please put something in the topic showing our respects for Rob?
[03:35] <keegan_> So I type symlink /path/to/folder /path/to/folder ?
[03:35] <tedivm> anyone know a way to fix that?
[03:35] <Trae> he was a friend of mine and a great dad
[03:35] <lufis> was he your dad?
[03:35] <silvaran> yoguess: Can you write a file to /mnt/backup, like type "touch /mnt/backup/test"? (which will create an empty file on /mnt/backup called "test", if it can..)
[03:35] <tedivm> Trae, isn't there enough people respecting him on this network?
[03:35] <Trae> lufis, no... but he was a father (as I am )
[03:35] <lufis> trae: ah
[03:35] <chaos_> I'm getting an error while installing Nvidia drivers on dapper... something about not being able to find properly configured kernel source files in /src/usr. Am I missing something?
[03:35] <hikenboot> hello all--Can anyone point me to a document on editing/creating metapackages?
[03:35] <netherwolf> Raz: just "sudo apt-get install" and get trying.
[03:36] <rob> Trae: please don't abuse the bot :)
[03:36] <Raz`> k
[03:36] <jrib> !nvidia > chaos_
[03:36] <yoguess> silvaran, "cannot touch"
[03:36] <yusufm> Rob wh?
[03:36] <Raz`> error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:36] <yusufm> *who?
[03:36] <yoguess> i tried as root
[03:36] <marshall> THX-1138-dinner: netherwolf: any idea why i wouldnt get any sound from flash in firefox 2 beta 2?
[03:36] <silvaran> yoguess: Is that it?  You don't get any other error message?
[03:36] <Trae> rob, How am I abusing the bot?  I simply wanted to get the ops attention.  I feel this isn't an unusual request considering everything Rob did for us , the linux community
[03:36] <netherwolf> just a sec, marshall. Trying to help Raz'.
[03:37] <tedivm> Trae, he didn't do that much
[03:37] <jrib> hikenboot: may want to try #ubuntu-motu
[03:37] <marshall> netherwolf: ok
[03:37] <Trae> setting the topic in the channel is the least we can do for him.
[03:37] <yoguess> touch: cannot touch `/mnt/backup/test': No such file or directory
[03:37] <Raz`> btw I appreciate the help wolf
[03:37] <rob> Trae: please join #ubuntu-ops instead and mention it, that trigger is for when there are channel problems, we come running
[03:37] <yoguess> silvaran, what do you mean?? other errors
[03:37] <hikenboot> thanks jrib
[03:37] <netherwolf> Mars:Google  for dsp settings in Firefox
[03:37] <yoguess> in GUI it tells me access denied
[03:37] <Trae> rob, Ok, I apologize
[03:37] <netherwolf> Raz': np
[03:37] <Raz`> This is just a bit overwhelming, having been a dos-windows-xp user for uh, 13 years now? lol
[03:37] <ugarit> what's the equivelant to chkconfig in ubuntu?
[03:38] <Trae> rob, didn't know about #ubuntu-ops, now I do, thanks.
[03:38] <silvaran> yoguess: That doesn't mean it's read only, it means your user doesn't have permission...
[03:38] <tedivm> so yea, click holding things, is that possible?
[03:38] <Trae> nalioth, thank you very much
[03:38] <Raz`> can I just go to runlevel 3 and install all these packages?
[03:38] <rob> Trae: thanks :)
[03:38] <tedivm> bah, giving into peer pressure
[03:38] <yoguess> UHH OHH
[03:38] <netherwolf> Raz': Know the feeling. Yeah. Try sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:38] <Trae> tedivm, if you do not have something nice to say, please don't say anything
[03:38] <tedivm> Trae, if you don't like what i have to say, put me on ignore
[03:38] <netherwolf> Raz': Go ahead and CtrlAltBS
[03:39] <Raz`> if I do that I'll lose all the stuff in here
[03:39] <yoguess> silvaran. so how do i do this right?
[03:39] <silvaran> yoguess: As root, can you create a file on it?  If so, you might be interested in mount options such as uid= ... or something similar.  Personally, when I mount a drive, I log in as root, create a folder ("mkdir /mnt/Backup/username") and then do a "chown username:users /mnt/Backup/username" and restrict all my writes, as this user, to that folder "username".
[03:39] <Trae> tedivm, that's quite disrespectful of you, but... you've got a point about ignore.  I guess it's your right to be disrespectful.
[03:39] <Raz`> that lock error is still coming up
[03:39] <yoguess> mount the partition on boot up and have propper permissions
[03:39] <eyequeue> Trae, fwiw, his loss bothers me as well
[03:39] <Raz`> will going to command line fix that?
[03:39] <netherwolf> Mars:http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:40] <Raz`> wait, that lock might be from me installing programs.
[03:40] <tedivm> Trae, its not that disrespectful. I'm just thinking that if i wanted to continue to hear about his death, i'd go to one of the numerous channels discussing it
[03:40] <netherwolf> Raz': No. Not sure why it's doing that.
[03:40] <keegan_> When you install the plugins for firefox using automatix, what folder do the plugins go into to?
[03:40] <Raz`> huh.
[03:40] <jrib> !automatix
[03:40] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:40] <netherwolf> Lemme look
[03:40] <Raz`> what is the ll resource?
[03:40] <Trae> tedivm, My request, I didn't think, wasn't that unresonable.  at any rate.  later
[03:40] <yoguess> silvaran, so i sould mount it first, since you told me to umount it
[03:40] <silvaran> yoguess: Well proper permissions doesn't mean much... when you mount a device to a directory (device=/dev/hdb3, directory=/mnt/Backup), it's mounted as root... so for your currently logged in user to access it, it needs to have write permission as that user... that's why I create a subdirectory for that user, and grant it complete control (via chown myuser:users /mnt/Backup/myuser)
[03:40] <netherwolf> hmm?
[03:41] <Raz`> wolf, it was my programs installing
[03:41] <Raz`> that was locking it
[03:41] <netherwolf> ah
[03:41] <tedivm> tedivm, its not unreasonable, but when someone opposes it that doesn't mean its disrespectful either
[03:41] <yoguess> "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/Backup"
[03:41] <Raz`> sudo apt-get install doesn't pop up any packages to download or anything
[03:41] <Raz`> I'd like to download a lot of them rather than 1 at a time every time an app needs 10 of em
[03:41] <tedivm> personally, i think a better message for the topic would be something like "get a helmet"
[03:41] <netherwolf> No, it's a commandline thing. sudo apt-get install make gcc
[03:41] <netherwolf> Try that.
[03:41] <pk0nink> does anyone know the correct format to set up a vsftpd.chroot_list?
[03:42] <Raz`> yeah, iw as already doing that
[03:42] <netherwolf> OH! and binutils at the end.
[03:42] <yoguess> silvaran, "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/Backup"
[03:42] <Raz`> but nvidia kept asking for me
[03:42] <Raz`> more
[03:42] <Raz`> i've installed binutils, make, gcc
[03:42] <Raz`> then it asked for one that was 'obsolete' and wouldn't download
[03:42] <netherwolf> which one?
[03:42] <wastrel> build-essential
[03:42] <lix> Hi. Since the kernel-upgrade of yesterday my madwifi driver for ther atheros wificard is not working any more. anyone else has that effect?
[03:42] <Raz`> not sure, I'll have to command line to find it
[03:42] <silvaran> yoguess: Well I figured you were having lower level problems, such as a corrupted partition, or a hardware error... but keep in mind that a partition is automatically mounted as "root".  So, as root, you need to create a directory that your logged in user can access... like this: "sudo mkdir /mnt/Backup/yoguess; sudo chown yoguess:users /mnt/Backup/yoguess"... now you should be able to get full control of "/mnt/B
[03:42] <Raz`> there's no way to just download a ton of packages?
[03:43] <Raz`> cause I used cygwin and there were thousands of them
[03:43] <tedivm> personally, i think build-essential should be included as one of the base packages
[03:43] <ladydoor> is there a command to combine two .wav files into one?
[03:43] <Raz`> Id hate to do that 1 by 1
[03:43] <Raz`> lol
[03:43] <ladydoor> would it just be cat file1.wav file2.wav > fileall.wav?
[03:43] <Raz`> thanks, ted. :P
[03:43] <eyequeue> tedivm, not one of the targets for the distro, there's only so much that can be
[03:43] <yoguess> silvaran, that command wont work since the partition is not mounted, right?
[03:43] <Raz`> ok, trying again
[03:44] <simp> hello, i can't connect to wpa secured wifi network i installed knetworkmanager but it freezes on 28% while connecting
[03:44] <eyequeue> ladydoor, i'm not sure if that format has headers or not, i guess you could try and tell us :)
[03:44] <silvaran> yoguess: Right, the partition needs to be mounted before you can create a directory and change its owner.  Otherwise, it will create it on your root partition :).
[03:44] <yoguess> silvaran, so thats why i asked if "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/Backup"will work
[03:44] <tyler_d> how do I view programs installed with wine??
[03:44] <Raz`> bah. 'unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently loaded kernel'
[03:45] <matjan> !glx
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <surface> ladydoor:  cat file1 >> file2  , backup first, i am not sure it works or not
[03:45] <ladydoor> eyequeue: lol...well, i've no intention of listening to them all the way through. i'm going to be sending them to someone else after encoding them to a smaller format. it doesn't really matter
[03:45] <Raz`> it can't download a kernel file from nvidia.com eithr
[03:45] <ladydoor> surface: ok...thanks muchly
[03:45] <silvaran> yoguess: That will mount the partition, if you're root.  But then there's what I was talking about earlier about accessing something as a regular user (instead of root).
[03:45] <keescook> tyler_d: there may be a better way, but I would just do an "ls .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/"
[03:45] <netherwolf> sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[03:45] <Raz`> getting it. thanks
[03:46] <Raz`> what does apt stand for, by the way?
[03:46] <tyler_d> keescook: ty, now how would I run one of those programs, or create a shortcut to it?
[03:46] <eyequeue> Advanced Package Tool
[03:46] <yoguess> silvaran, so what is the proper way to mount so i can access it when im not a root?
[03:46] <matjan> !xgl
[03:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:46] <lufis> I'm looking to try KDE but don't want all of the kubuntu apps installed. How do I install just bare-bones what is needed for KDE?
[03:47] <keegan_> Does anyone know where the Mozilla Firefox plugins are located?
[03:47] <keescook> tyler_d: I think if you browse to it from the Desktop, you can create a short-cut onto your desktop.
[03:47] <netherwolf> Automatic packaging tool
[03:47] <lufis> keegan_: ~/.mozilla
[03:47] <tyler_d> I will try that ty
[03:47] <netherwolf> and it has SUPER COW powers.
[03:47] <eyequeue> lufis, you mean the libs?  install one kde app, heh
[03:47] <netherwolf> no, I kid you not.
[03:47] <eyequeue> netherwolf, Advanced
[03:47] <netherwolf> Oh right.
[03:47] <keescook> tyler_d: you may need to explicitly type in the ".wine" part to get it to enter that directory, though.  :)
[03:47] <keegan_> There isn't a plugin folder for /home/.mozilla
[03:48] <keegan_> Are they located anywhere else?
[03:48] <lostinc> I am looking for some help with acidrip and there isnt a channel on IRC for it and I am unable to find much as far as web sites are concerned. Is anyone experienced with Acidrip?
[03:48] <tanath> can anyone help me get my thumb buttons working in gnome?
[03:48] <tanath> they work in other WMs, just not gnome
[03:48] <yoguess> silvaran, may i PM you?
[03:48] <netherwolf> y'know, I'm tempted to say OK, let's just try the nvidia-glx package.
[03:48] <lufis> eyequeue: No.. I've got those. I don't know what the apps are called... but like the KDE equivalent for metacity in gnome
[03:48] <silvaran> yoguess: Sure
[03:49] <pk0nink> does anyone know the correct format to set up a vsftpd.chroot_list? I can't get it to work.
[03:49] <eyequeue> lufis, i don't know myself, but try /join #kubuntu and asking there
[03:49] <lufis> eyequeue: Cool, thanks
[03:49] <keegan_> So I'm guessing there isn't another location for Firefox plugins other than ~/.mozilla then...
[03:49] <silvaran> keegan_: There should be something like /usr/lib/mozilla .
[03:50] <keegan_> Thank you silvaran!!!
[03:50] <Raz`> installing kernel-source didn't fix it. I have to specify the path to it.
[03:50] <silvaran> keegan_: No problem, good luck :)
[03:50] <Raz`> Not sure where it's located.
[03:50] <netherwolf> just a sec, Raz'. I'm trying to remember this.
[03:51] <Raz`> k
[03:51] <MistaED> could someone tell me if there is an nvidia-glx backport for dapper? for 8774
[03:52] <tanath> can anyone help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs, just not gnome
[03:52] <silvaran> yoguess: Did you PM me yet?  I'm a little leery about my program's IRC support...
[03:52] <jrib> keegan_: /usr/lib/firefox/ as well
[03:53] <^Z3D^> any one here have any experience using the Max Media Dock for the DS light?
[03:53] <netherwolf> *grumbles* It would seem my server is worse off than I thought.
[03:54] <LDS_Trooper> What is needed to compile stuff? I can't remember the terminal command
[03:54] <netherwolf> It should be in the /usr/src directory somewhere.
[03:54] <LDS_Trooper> apt get something or other
[03:54] <tokenbad> in ubuntu is there a way to take like screensaver and capture frames of it so could make a avi of it?
[03:54] <Raz`> that for me, nether?
[03:54] <netherwolf> Yeah, Raz.
[03:54] <Raz`> will it still be under the filename kernel-source?
[03:54] <netherwolf> Something similar. You'll probably have to back out to find it.
[03:55] <Raz`> yeah, found it.
[03:55] <kovan> help please! i have installed the sun-java5-jre package and now firefox hangs when visiting java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/components/applet.html
[03:55] <Raz`> long filenames that are hard to remember do not mix well with command line interfaces.
[03:55] <LDS_Trooper> what do I need to "apt get" in order to compile?
[03:55] <netherwolf> No they don't. brb
[03:56] <cArNaGe`> how do I flushdns in linux?
[03:56] <netherwolf> LDS: "sudo apt-get install gcc make binutils" and then whatever libraries your program needs.
[03:56] <Madpilot> LDS_Trooper, build-essential"
[03:56] <tyler_d> trying to make a launcher to a wine application... the location is /home/tyler/.wine/drive_c/Program
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> from the perspective of ubuntu users, what would be your opinions of OpenSuSe 10.1??
[03:56] <LDS_Trooper> Madpilot thanks that's the one...
[03:57] <dbernar1> Hi. I can listen to music when I just boot up, but after a while, I can no longer get sound when I try to play music with any player. Ideas?
[03:57] <cArNaGe`> anyone know?  I can access www.dootalk.com on my windows box but I can't on this box.  BOth are on the same network.  dootalk changed servers yesterday
[03:57] <tokenbad> or maybe could ask this...a way to make a video of what your doing on your desktop?
[03:58] <LDS_Trooper> Madpilot, "command not found... was it "apt get build-essential"
[03:58] <dbernar1> apt-get
[03:58] <LDS_Trooper> or is it apt get build_essential ?
[03:58] <Madpilot> LDS_Trooper, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:58] <Indie_Jimmy> Hi folks
[03:58] <dbernar1> crimsun: ping
[03:58] <cArNaGe`> Is it possible for DNS to update on one computer and not the other?
[03:58] <surface> dbernar1:  are u open other app that play any music too, like firefox playing flash?
[03:59] <cArNaGe`> both are on the same network
[03:59] <surface> apt-get install
[03:59] <LDS_Trooper> ok
[03:59] <^Z3D^> does anyone know why i cant access my compact flash media drive?
[03:59] <dbernar1> Nope. I used epiphany, and dia, and nautilus.
[03:59] <LDS_Trooper> trying to relay this to my Wife as well
[03:59] <dbernar1> Somehow the dsp thing dies on me.
[03:59] <dbernar1> nothing in dmesg
[03:59] <surface> ^Z3D^:  why can't , do u mount?
[04:00] <Indie_Jimmy> Hate to bust in with a question... But who can tell me how to get libdvdcss installed? I can't seem to compile it... And I can't find a compiler in Ubuntu
[04:00] <jrib> !dvd
[04:00] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:00] <surface> dbernar1:  try to close epiphany and try?
[04:00] <Indie_Jimmy> !dvd?
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <jrib> Indie_Jimmy: (see ubotu's response)  :)
[04:00] <amicrawle> hey guys i'm looking 4 the app called hugo  the arc does not list it
[04:00] <dbernar1> OK, I am gonna close gdm completely.
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE>  from the perspective of ubuntu users, what would be your opinions of OpenSuSe 10.1 for a linux newbie?? I am a happy ubuntu user myself but realize that it does require some knowledge and hunting for guides... this I can handle but for a friends and others
[04:01] <amicrawle> suse 10.1 crashes
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> it does
[04:01] <dbernar1> Oh, it worked.
[04:01] <tanath> can anyone help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs, just not gnome
[04:01] <Indie_Jimmy> Suse has gotten flakey
[04:01] <wastrel> Indie_Jimmy:  install build-essential for compiler
[04:01] <dbernar1> It is something in the X part that is blocking it.
[04:01] <amicrawle> yes went from suse to ubuntu
[04:01] <dbernar1> surface: good enough for now, thanks.
[04:01] <ladydoor> Indie_Jimmy: you need to install build-essential
 what do u mean by flakey
[04:01] <Neo8750> Paddy_EIRE: have them try freespire
[04:02] <amicrawle> stuff does not eork right any more and suport suck s
[04:02] <Neo8750> you can download a live cd to try it
[04:02] <surface> dbernar1:  sometimes other app uses the dsp and another one will unable to use it
[04:02] <surface> this happen to me too
[04:02] <fatbrain> I got some crap in the auto-udpate app, kernel stuff by the looks of it, I installed it and recompiled my nvidia drivers, now my video-playback is err, crappy, any thoughts? (yes, I know I gave the best description ever)
[04:02] <simp> what if knetworkmanager freezes on 28% of connecting to a WPA-Tkip secured wireless network
 what would be better about freespire over opensuse
[04:02] <keegan_> Have you guys tried ZenWalk?
[04:02] <Neo8750> Paddy_EIRE: i've never used opensuse
[04:02] <amicrawle> freespire  frezzes in the middle of the install
[04:03] <keegan_> Isn't opensuse the same as suse just a new name..
[04:03] <amicrawle> no
[04:03] <amicrawle> suse opne is comuity ver
i had been reading quite a bit on different distros, and i am now at 72% of opensuse 10.1 dvd download
[04:03] <tokenbad> is there a way to make a video of what your doing on your desktop?
[04:03] <amicrawle> suse is sled
[04:03] <Neo8750> Paddy_EIRE: freespire is free version linspire its based off debian and is ment to give the user an easy to use system with out the windows tax
[04:03] <keegan_> I see...
[04:03] <Neo8750> Paddy_EIRE: just download the live cd of freespire
[04:03] <jrib> tokenbad: istanbul if it works for you
free version....is it stripped down or something
[04:04] <Neo8750> and give it a try be you will think that it will be fitting for an average user who is afraid of linux
[04:04] <tokenbad> jrib, get that from apt-get?
[04:04] <jrib> tokenbad: yeah
[04:04] <OSUKid7> how can I have Ubuntu not automatically mount partitions? I have two Windows partitions that I don't want users to have access to. also, Ubuntu shows a "Floppy 2" even though I only have one floppy drive.
gonna grab that one to i suppose...
[04:04] <Neo8750> Paddy_EIRE: no freespire actually only affiliation is that people decided to make a free verison of linspire
 nice one :) i love it when that happens
[04:05] <surface> OSUKid7:  /etc/fstab
[04:05] <amicrawle> hey where do i get the tg16 emulator  hugo for ubuntu?
[04:05] <Neo8750> well i'm out
[04:05] <THX-1138-dinner> Neo8750 - D/L  Freespire? - why would freespire be better than ubuntu?
[04:05] <surface> OSUKid7:  comment the line u don't want to be mount
[04:05] <Neo-Away> THX-1138-dinner: he said he wanted something other then ubuntu
[04:05] <OSUKid7> surface: ok, thanks
[04:05] <keegan_> Whats wrong with Ubuntu?
[04:05] <tech13> during boot, I need to type "modprobe dm-mod" in busybox to finish booting.  How do I fix the initrd so I don't need to anymore? this started after upgrading the kernel, and I use Lilo to boot and LVM2 for root, no /boot partition.
[04:05] <Neo-Away> and i suggested freespire because its along same as ubuntu but a little more userfriendly
[04:06] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE: which irc client are you using?
[04:06] <surface> oh other besides ubuntu?
 xchat
[04:06] <chaos_> woot, got the nvidia drivers installed
[04:06] <surface> try windows xp, it is userfriendly, virus digs them
[04:06] <Raz`> man, this nvidia installer is nothing but problems. :( I specify the kernel path as \usr\src and it claims it doesn't exist.
[04:06] <keegan_> Does XFCE use metacity as its window manager?
[04:06] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE: ah, ok. <nick> reminds me of back when I used to use mschat
[04:06] <chaos_> Raz
[04:07] <chaos_> use the packaging system, its so much easier
[04:07] <chaos_> i just did it myself
 im fininshed with windows for good......bye guys thx for advice
[04:07] <ootput> keegan_: no
[04:07] <Raz`> I did before, and XGL isn't working
[04:07] <Raz`> I had a guy say he used the nvidia installer to get it working
[04:07] <keegan_> Its xfwm right?
[04:07] <chaos_> did you go through the troubleshooting?
[04:07] <ootput> keegan_: yeah
[04:07] <Raz`> not yet, i assumed I had did something stupid wrong
[04:07] <Raz`> lol
[04:07] <Raz`> I don't know where the troubleshooting is anyway
[04:07] <keegan_> Can I use metacity themes with xfwm?
[04:07] <surface> (:
[04:07] <chaos_> :) i can help you
[04:08] <Raz`> yay
[04:08] <tech13> surface, don't forget windows xp also gets all the latest games. ..... like kill the popup... will I finish saving before the next blue screen.... why is my hard drive so busy mystory game....
[04:08] <ootput> Raz`: why are you complicating things by using the installer?
[04:08] <tanath> can anyone help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs, just not gnome
[04:08] <Raz`> I have no idea, oot
[04:08] <ryanakca> does anybody know of a free rsync server that I can send my backups to?
[04:08] <ootput> tech13: :)
[04:08] <chaos_> did you enter "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" into console?
[04:08] <ootput> Raz`: for convenience, tab-complete nicks :)
[04:08] <Raz`> i think I did
[04:08] <Raz`> I followed a tutorial, so I probably did all the command line stuff right
[04:09] <surface> tech13:  win xp is great, i use it to research on various virus, spyware and hijacker, its a complete ecosystem
[04:09] <chaos_> did you make sure /etc/X11/xorg.conf had "nvidia" next to "Driver" under Devices?
[04:09] <Raz`> yeah
[04:09] <surface> Raz`:  u like command line stuff?
[04:09] <dekup> how can i check  kernel's "isapnp bios" value? 1 or 0?
[04:09] <Raz`> I don't mind it, surface
[04:09] <Raz`> I just hate having to leave this channel to do a lot of it
[04:10] <surface> www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[04:10] <ootput> Raz`: familiarize yourself with a text-based irc-client, such as irssi
[04:10] <Raz`> looks a lot like C++ with the >>
[04:10] <chaos_> iostream
[04:10] <Raz`> yalp
[04:11] <dekup> how can i check  kernel's "isapnp bios" value? 1 or 0?    noone knows?
[04:11] <Raz`> let me try to run XGL again, and if it poops I'll try that troubleshooting stuff
[04:11] <chaos_> !nvidia > Raz`
[04:11] <ootput> Raz`: there's the #ubuntu-xgl support channel
[04:11] <chaos_> follow that
[04:11] <mutk> dekup, What makes you think there is an isapnp 'value' ?
[04:12] <Raz`> if it's not nvidia, it's better than me?
[04:12] <keegan_> You hear about Virgin Atlantic not allowing Dell or Apple laptops on there planes because the batteries explode...
[04:12] <Raz`> lolol
[04:12] <dekup> it doesnt install my soundcard. and i read "isapnp value should 0"
[04:12] <alex222> how do you Remove a dir again
[04:12] <LDS_Trooper> Madpilot, thanks again
[04:12] <ootput> dekup: grep ISA /boot/config-`uname -r`
[04:12] <alex222> rm ~/.dir ?
[04:12] <dekup> ok looking
[04:12] <keegan_> I believe it is rmdir
[04:12] <Madpilot> LDS_Trooper, np
[04:12] <tokenbad> jrib it just freezes once I start recording
[04:12] <wastrel> rmdir requires that the directory be empty
[04:13] <wastrel> rm -r dirname  will remove a directory & its contents.  be careful --- there's no undo
[04:13] <ootput> alex222: rm -rf /path/to/dir
[04:13] <BlueEagle> Would someone pleae be a dear and attempt to dcc send me a file. Any file will do, but not a big one.
[04:13] <netherwolf> back. Raz, did you put in \usr\src or /usr/src
[04:13] <Raz`> \usr
[04:13] <netherwolf> There's your problem.
[04:13] <wastrel> why is everyone so force-flag-happy
[04:13] <Raz`> lol.
[04:13] <tanath> can anyone help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs, just not gnome
[04:14] <Raz`> would it help to go compile a video driver, then?
[04:14] <wastrel> the -f is generally unnecessary and can cause problems
[04:14] <THX-1138> !mouse
[04:14] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:14] <BlueEagle> anyone at all?
[04:14] <chaos_> --kernel-source-path?
[04:14] <Raz`> yes, chaos
[04:14] <OSUKid7> are there any apps like LogMeIn or GoToMyPC for Linux? a remote desktop program (not VNC) that initiates the connection from the host to bypass firewall problems?
[04:14] <THX-1138> !intellimouse
[04:14] <ootput> BlueEagle: it's waititng for your acceptance
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intellimouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <jrib> tokenbad: yeah... like I said "if it works for you".  It's a bit buggy.  byzanz is an option to record to gif.  There is also vnc2swf and a new one that I can't remember the name of but starts with an x
[04:14] <chaos_> you tried that?
[04:14] <Raz`> yeah but I did it improperly
[04:14] <Raz`> ill try again
[04:14] <BlueEagle> ootput: have you got the ip and port you are attempting to send on?
[04:14] <netherwolf> Raz: You said you used the nvidia-glx driver package. What all did you do?
[04:14] <tanath> BlueEagle, offering
[04:14] <chaos_> ah, k, gl
[04:14] <Raz`> I went through the tutorial to install XGL completely
[04:15] <BlueEagle> ootput thansen: Ok. Thank you. Apperantly those packages are stuck in some void :/
[04:15] <Raz`> but when I run it, it says 'failed to load shadow images'
[04:15] <netherwolf> hm...
[04:15] <ootput> BlueEagle: the firewall-void
[04:15] <chaos_> what is your video card?
[04:15] <THX-1138> !mouse <alias> intellimouse
[04:15] <Raz`> 7900GT
[04:15] <eyequeue> Raz`, xgl is not supported in here, only in #ubuntu-xgl please
[04:15] <BlueEagle> ootput: Well, between the rules and a policy somwhere I guess. :)
[04:15] <chaos_> whew, nice
[04:15] <tanath> THX-1138, they work fine, just not in gnome
[04:15] <BlueEagle> ootput: Strange thing is that not even snort sees it coming.
[04:16] <netherwolf> Raz': Does your 3D work at all?
[04:16] <djancak> is there a way to extract .rar files in ubuntu?
[04:16] <ootput> BlueEagle: snort is probably behind it?
[04:16] <BlueEagle> ootput: ...and all loggings are on for the firewall so I can't see why it shouldn't log it.
[04:16] <Raz`> I have no idea, nether. How do I check?
[04:16] <tanath> djancak, unrar
[04:16] <mypapit> wtf surface
[04:16] <djancak> tanath: thanko
[04:16] <THX-1138> tanath - sudo gconf-editor     /apps/metacity  (i think)
[04:16] <netherwolf> glxinfo
[04:16] <ootput> djancak: unrar e file.rar
[04:16] <netherwolf> in an X session like GNOME.
[04:16] <jrib> tokenbad: xvidcap, that's what it is called!  but you have to compile that
[04:16] <surface> mypapit:  u come and crash party?
[04:16] <BlueEagle> ootput: well the policy for all incoming connections is drop and log. And if it's not caught there it should be caught in the rules, but alas all the rules are set to log.
[04:16] <ootput> djancak: iirc, unrar is non-free
[04:16] <Raz`> glxinfo gives me lines upon lines of stuff.
[04:17] <netherwolf> Look for DRI
[04:17] <ryanakca> does anybody know of a free rsync server that I can send my backups to for a couple of days?
[04:17] <ootput> Raz`: glxinfo | grep direct
[04:17] <netherwolf> Wait direct hardware
[04:17] <mypapit> surface: i'm here a while ago lol
[04:17] <ryanakca> ootput: it is
[04:17] <BlueEagle> ootput: But I've been at this for too long. Been stearign myself blind I guess. Thanks for the time.
[04:17] <Raz`> direct rendering: yes
[04:17] <netherwolf> Hm...
[04:17] <eyequeue> ryanakca, not sure, perhaps rsync.org was?  i forget
[04:17] <surface> mypapit: really i didn't see u, its crowded
[04:17] <amicrawle> how do i install a .deb file ?
[04:17] <netherwolf> then you already have the nVidia setup. It's XGL that's being a pain.
[04:17] <ryanakca> eyequeue: thanks
[04:17] <jrib> !deb
[04:17] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[04:17] <ootput> djancak: then you'd need to enable the corresponding repo for unrar
[04:17] <ryanakca> amicrawle: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:17] <Raz`> probably. lol
[04:18] <netherwolf> I feel so.... stupid.
[04:18] <amicrawle> from the shell
[04:18] <chaos_> How do I test to see if I have XGL installed correctly?
[04:18] <create> does anyone here have experience getting an rt2500 mini pci wireless card working on 6.06 ?
[04:18] <amicrawle> i did a sudo dpkg -i
[04:18] <netherwolf> Sorry Raz. I had you going in all the wrong ways.
[04:19] <Raz`> ?
[04:19] <Raz`> No problem, I'm learning from screwing up. lol
[04:19] <tanath> THX-1138, i don't see anything relevant...
[04:19] <surface> !wireless
[04:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:19] <surface> create
[04:19] <ootput> chaos_: create a gdm session that uses an xgl-launching wrapper script (or similar,) launch it, and look for cutesy artsy fartsy effects
[04:19] <kishore> compiz-start in terminal
[04:20] <tanath> amicrawle, or 'sudo dpkg -i package.deb' in terminal
[04:20] <create> thanks for the link, hopefully that will get me started :)
[04:20] <kishore> how to create sessions of our own :(
[04:21] <surface> (:
[04:21] <surface> kishore : what do u mean?
[04:21] <kishore> how to create a gdm session...
[04:21] <kishore> that uses xgl...
[04:21] <ootput> kishore: /usr/share/xsessions
[04:21] <nigel> hey guys, does anyone know where the server is mounted when you choose "Connect to Server..." from the Places menu?
[04:22] <ootput> kishore: an xgl example is available on the forums
[04:22] <ootput> kishore: i can't go into too much detail on an irc channel
[04:22] <kishore> ootput, can u giv me that thread
[04:22] <netherwolf> Raz: I'm hunting through forums right now. I'll tell you when I find something.
[04:22] <OSUKid7> alright, I'm configuring an Ubuntu PC for use by people who really only know Windows... what's the best way to make it look, act, and feel like Windows (as possible as that is)?
[04:22] <kitche> kishore: that's kind hard really since XGL is a different server from Xorg
[04:22] <Shadowpillar_> is it possible to do a dual head display on the same pci bus?
[04:23] <Raz`> the XGL troubleshooting has a possible solution for me but I don't understand where to go to modify this
[04:23] <Shadowpillar_> aka, two pci cards
[04:23] <THX-1138> tanath - I don't have enough information or experience to be more helpful -  What is happening to your keyboard?   http://linuxformat.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Setting_Key_Bindings_in_GNOME
[04:23] <tanath> THX-1138, not my keyboard... my mouse
[04:23] <netherwolf> Raz: Send me a link
[04:23] <surface> OSUKid7:  its already very easy like windows, incase u want virus to be loaded, that i couldn't help :P
[04:23] <tanath> THX-1138, i mean, the thumb buttons on the side of the mouse, for forwards and backwards
[04:23] <kitche> OSUKid7: well use KDE that seems more easy for people that is use to windows
[04:24] <THX-1138> Ah, okay - ubotu's link to !mouse wasn't what you needed?
[04:24] <surface> OSUKid7:  anyway linux != windows
[04:24] <OSUKid7> surface: hah, I know... you don't have to convince me, I'm just trying to make the change easier for the users
[04:24] <Raz`> O RLY?
[04:24] <LDS_Trooper> THX cool name
[04:24] <LDS_Trooper> ok I'll shoosh now
[04:24] <vdh> i want upgrade ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.06 by cdrom
[04:24] <tanath> THX-1138, they work fine if i use fluxbox or something, but not in gnome, which i normally use
[04:24] <vdh> help me
[04:24] <THX-1138> tanath - xmodmap and xev are tools to manipulate mouse settings
[04:24] <kishore> ootput, can u giv me the corresponding thread of that...
[04:24] <cafuego> vdh: Insert the CD.
[04:24] <vdh> yes
[04:25] <tanath> THX-1138, but they already work fine...
[04:25] <ootput> kishore: no, but i can teach you how to fish: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8223141
[04:25] <Raz`> get that, netherwolf?
[04:25] <surface> OSUKid7:  makes everything clickable to start will do
[04:25] <tech13> which package provides the initrd?
[04:25] <tanath> THX-1138, it's something about gnome that makes them not work
[04:25] <cafuego> vdh: Click 'Upgrade'
[04:25] <vdh> where?
[04:25] <surface> OSUKid7:  put all usable app on shortcut on the desktop or taskbar
[04:25] <tanath> THX-1138, 'cause it's only in gnome they don't work. they work fine in several others
[04:25] <vdh> on cdrom ??
[04:25] <cafuego> vdh: The CD will start and show a dialog.
[04:25] <psYchotic> so hi, I compiled a vanilla kernel today, and it works great, except for one thing: it doesn't show the startup sequence (stuff like "Setting up network interfaces    OK"). How do I fix that? =)
[04:25] <OSUKid7> surface: right, I've done that pretty much
[04:25] <vdh> next
[04:26] <vdh> next thanks
[04:26] <cafuego> psYchotic: Did you forget console support?
[04:26] <psYchotic> perhaps I did, but I sure hope I didn't
[04:26] <THX-1138> tanath - I am in over my head. - maybe someone else here knows better what you need to do?
[04:26] <holycow> what is the console web browser called again?
[04:26] <tanath> THX-1138, thx anyway
[04:26] <psYchotic> lynx, links, w3c
[04:26] <cafuego> holycow: links or lynx.
[04:27] <holycow> oh danke
[04:27] <tedivm> damn global notices
[04:27] <surface> OSUKid7:  last time i did this, http://files.myopera.com/mysurface/albums/22882/324%20dec%202005.png
[04:27] <netherwolf> um... huh?
[04:27] <LDS_Trooper> Can XChat be set so that URL's can be clicked through in XChat?
[04:27] <vdh> cafuego thanks!
[04:28] <holycow> LDS_Trooper, right click and open in browser
[04:28] <kitche> You send your thieves, and the operation commences...
[04:28] <kitche> We lost 2 thieves in the operation, but ... Early indications show that our operation was a stunning success.
[04:28] <LDS_Trooper> yeah I do that now..
[04:28] <kitche> sorry that wasn't suppose to be pasted
[04:28] <LDS_Trooper> Just wondered... I know *gags* Mirc does it
[04:28] <Raz`> I never knew an OS could make you feel like you've been ran over by a truck before
[04:28] <ootput> kitche: I'm curious..
[04:29] <holycow> Raz`, then stop using windows
[04:29] <holycow> >_>
[04:29] <THX-1138> LDS_Trooper - there are several options availale from the command line with xchat /set command your answer could be there.
[04:29] <kitche> ootput: lol I was trying to copy a link and instead I hit paste on accent
[04:29] <kitche> accident/accent
[04:29] <netherwolf> Raz:Linux does that to you. Whenever I redo my windows, I only spend ONE or TWO sleepless nights hammering away at it. Not so with Linux.
[04:29] <LDS_Trooper> THX-1138, many thanks
[04:29] <holycow> netherwolf, well linux actually doesn't do that
[04:29] <holycow> the users do that to them selves
[04:29] <Raz`> lol
[04:29] <netherwolf> REDO= reformat, reinstall, reset.
[04:29] <Raz`> I'm not dissing linux, I like it.
[04:29] <Raz`> the learning curve is what's making me feel like this lol
[04:30] <holycow> they are so conditioned to think the ms way they have a hard time adjusting
[04:30] <ootput> Raz`: ubuntu - an african word meaning "I am what I am because I can navigate through traffic"
[04:30] <Raz`> lol
[04:30] <netherwolf> Raz: I do too. But ... yeah, exactly. You got the mad DOS/Doze skills, but they mean NOTHING in linux.
[04:30] <holycow> Raz`, there really is no learning curve the problem is that the entire ms population is trainied to think that computers are easy
[04:30] <holycow> the things you learn on linux are just computers 101
[04:30] <Raz`> it's not that as much as when I look on sites, the solutions they give are also in linux speak
[04:30] <holycow> its what every kid in school should be taught
[04:30] <kitche> Raz' I think ubuntu is kinda easy
[04:30] <holycow> you should ALREADY know this
[04:30] <chuckf> computers are easy, you just have to learn the interface
[04:30] <Raz`> I already know a lot of this.
[04:31] <Raz`> but I know zero of the syntax.
[04:31] <Raz`> and that means I can do nothing.
[04:31] <holycow> naw
[04:31] <Tonren> can someone ban iMega190, please?  he's spamming
[04:31] <wastrel> !cli
[04:31] <ootput> computers aren't the problem, pebcak is
[04:31] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:31] <wastrel> Raz`:  ^^^
[04:31] <holycow> you don't need to know more than half a dozen commands for 90% of the stuff
[04:31] <chuckf> raz, you can do all that you want to do simply by trying things
[04:31] <Raz`> i am trying things
[04:31] <Raz`> I just want XGL eye candy, dammit! :P
[04:31] <THX-1138> Help my pebcak isn't working.
[04:31] <tokenbad> whats this:  checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[04:31] <xenoxaos> does anyone know how to clear the .bash_history for sudo
[04:31] <holycow> i do this for a living, i usually haveto look stuff up because you really only use a handfull of commands most of the time
[04:31] <keegan_> I wish I could have xgl... :(
[04:31] <netherwolf> Windows shelters people from the harsh realities of computing. Most people think they'll be stuck with the damn Start button for the rest of forever.
[04:31] <ootput> THX-1138: :)
[04:32] <Amaranth> tokenbad: sudo apt-get install intltool
[04:32] <holycow> Raz`, forget it, that requires a little bit of learning, or just wait until it becomes stable and production ready
[04:32] <Krank> Is there a way to get the Vista boot loader to boot into ubuntu? After installing RC1 Vista naturally overrode GRUB. My /, swap and home partitions are still there.
[04:32] <Raz`> lol. Hell no. I only have ONE error message.
[04:32] <Raz`> I can fix it.
[04:32] <kitche> Raz': XGL is more of a Techdemo then anything else
[04:32] <holycow> Raz`, it hurts because you are trying to become a developer overnight ... leave it to the devs to fix that for you :)
[04:32] <holycow> what kitche said
[04:32] <surface> !boot loader
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boot loader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Amaranth> Raz`: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:32] <netherwolf> Two years ago, that was me. Then I modded it to say my last name (Not given here) XP, and then I yanked it entierly and went to blackbox.
[04:33] <surface> !grub
[04:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:33] <Raz`> holycow: I'm going to school for programming. busting my head on crap is my life. I will not give up. lol
[04:33] <ootput> Krank: boot up the livecd, and grub-install
[04:33] <duckdown> How can I turn off these incredibly annoying global notices?
[04:33] <duckdown> Enough already
[04:33] <holycow> Raz`, wicked :) welcome
[04:33] <surface> Krank repair ur grub
[04:33] <netherwolf> YOU GO, Raz!!!
[04:33] <Raz`> that's why I want to learn linux, it's just better for what I want to do
[04:33] <THX-1138> keegan - your aren't alone. didn't work for me yet either.  xcompmgr can give you some nice though limited effects compared too XKL/compiz. - It is rock solid.   drop shadows menu transparency etc.
[04:33] <duckdown> Amaranth> Yes.
[04:33] <holycow> Raz`, it gives the power back to the user an dprogrammer
[04:33] <Amaranth> duckdown: You can't.
[04:33] <Amaranth> duckdown: What are they saying?
[04:34] <holycow> you aren't permanently stuck  behind someone elses apis for your entire career
[04:34] <ootput> duckdown: you can't, unless you filter global notices into a separate channel, and essentially ignore that channel's activities
[04:34] <Raz`> I know
[04:34] <duckdown> Amaranth: I keep getting messages about this dead guy
[04:34] <Raz`> I just have to learn how to work with this stuff
[04:34] <duckdown> from christel
[04:34] <Krank> ah.. thanks. choose start/install on the livecd>?
[04:34] <chuckf> I ake the attitude that if you really want to learn Linux, just dive in and cut yourself off from windows
[04:34] <ootput> duckdown: christel ain't dead; she's alive and kicking
[04:34] <Raz`> I'm going to use windows just for gaming, I think
[04:34] <THX-1138> XGL is ALPHA software definetly bleeding edge - give it a couple more months
[04:34] <holycow> Raz`, roughly it takes 1 to 2 years before the light comes on for the average user to become a medium to advanced user
[04:34] <Amaranth> duckdown: That "dead guy" would be lilo, the man who created and ran the IRC network you're on right now.
[04:34] <duckdown> ootput No no, she keeps messaging about the guy who died
[04:34] <netherwolf> YES!! Gaming is where windows shines.
[04:34] <Raz`> that means it'll take me 4 months, cow. :P
[04:35] <Amaranth> THX-1138: They said that 1 year ago.
[04:35] <Raz`> I don't halfass anything
[04:35] <ootput> duckdown: though she does go alittlle overboard with here gentoo-advocacy
[04:35] <THX-1138> Amaranth - lol - okay.
[04:35] <ootput> duckdown: oh
[04:35] <Amaranth> duckdown: It's a very big deal.
[04:35] <tokenbad> Amaranth, thanks
[04:35] <netherwolf> Raz: That's a good  mind-set.
[04:35] <Amaranth> Raz`: Please join #ubuntu-xgl
[04:35] <Raz`> I am in there
[04:36] <kitche> duckdown: anyway sh'es a freenode staff member
[04:36] <holycow> Raz`, right on :) the right attitude is the thing that makes the dif
[04:36] <tokenbad> jrib, thanks to you to
[04:36] <holycow> netherwolf, i would call it 'shine'
[04:36] <LDS_Trooper> Someone tells me that "Lilo" Freenode head staff was killed in a car accident today? True?
[04:36] <Amaranth> LDS_Trooper: Yes.
[04:36] <LDS_Trooper> sad news
[04:36] <holycow> more like ... publishers don't believe anyone else matters
[04:36] <netherwolf> shine?
[04:36] <ootput> LDS_Trooper: I'm still curious to see why there's no honorable mention of him on the freenode site
[04:36] <cassidy> hey guys, i'm sure this has been asked b4, but does anyone know how to fix static coming from my speakers on a cao0106 sb audigy se soundcard?
[04:37] <Tonren> cassidy: try double-clicking on your speaker icon and lowering the PCM
[04:37] <akonkwa> Hi everyone. Does anyone know how I can set auto accept files in Xirc? I'm using a breezy
[04:37] <netherwolf> cassidy: Or the line input
[04:37] <surface> cassidy:  static?
[04:37] <kitche> ootput: well ther is the news if you click news
[04:37] <netherwolf> cassidy:or the mic.
[04:38] <tokenbad> are these avail to ubuntu: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found No package 'libgnome-2.0' found No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found No package 'libglade-2.0' found No package 'glib-2.0' found
[04:38] <cafuego> LDS_Trooper: No, he died in hospital today, the car accident was a few days ago.
[04:38] <kitche> tokenbad: gtk+2
[04:38] <cassidy> aight one sec let me try that one guys first
[04:38] <LDS_Trooper> ahh ok I understand now
[04:38] <andrewski> is it recommended or "safe" to dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[04:38] <Amaranth> So...does anyone know what script is run to handle resume from hibernation?
[04:38] <AlinuxOS> Hello, I would like to set up a Ubuntu Georgian translators mailing list...is it possible to make a request somewhere ?
[04:38] <Amaranth> It's not in /etc/rcS.d
[04:39] <cafuego> AlinuxOS: Probably check the rosetta website; that will have info.
[04:39] <Amaranth> AlinuxOS: I believe Burgundavia handles all that stuff now, perhaps contact him.
[04:39] <ootput> andrewski: yes
[04:39] <surface> !mailing list
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailing list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <surface> !mailing
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <andrewski> ootput: thanks
[04:39] <AlinuxOS> Amaranth, thank you.
[04:39] <kitche> Amaranth: think that actually is a kernel thing but it should be suspend
[04:39] <surface> !ml
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <shaigar> Hello
[04:40] <surface> !ubuntu-users
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-users - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Milktea> How do I enable japanese input
[04:40] <akonkwa>  Does anyone know how I can set auto accept files in Xirc? I'm using a breezy
[04:40] <THX-1138> !scim
[04:40] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[04:40] <Milktea> thank you
[04:40] <cafuego> akonkwa: It's highly recommended that you don't. Some people try to spead spam/viruses that way.
[04:40] <LDS_Trooper> need to run
[04:40] <cassidy> aight back
[04:41] <Amaranth> kitche: It's got to be a shell script, it spits a diff out at me instead of running the script. :) Something broke in an upgrade
[04:41] <cassidy> i dont find anything on alsamixer that has line input or mix, and there was no pcm
[04:41] <netherwolf> I'm outa here. It's been fun.
[04:41] <kitche> Amaranth: think it's suspend or resume the script is named
[04:41] <Senesence> is there a way to create multiple sub-dirs through BASH without rewriting the absolute bath, but not being in the relative path either?
[04:41] <ootput> !mailinglist
[04:41] <akonkwa> cafuego, > But do you know how I can do it?
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailinglist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <surface> akonkwa:  are u sure it can be set? i cannot find any option for that in xchat, google and see
[04:41] <cafuego> Amaranth: A diff?
[04:41] <kitche> Amaranth: I m not to famialar with suspend sicne I tend to stay away from it since it breaks a lot of times
[04:41] <wastrel> Senesence:  you could export a variable that expands to the path
[04:41] <akonkwa> surface, I don't know if it can be set :-s
[04:41] <Amaranth> cafuego: Well it's a part of a shell script with +s in front of the lines so I'm thinking dpkg-diff
[04:42] <cafuego> Amaranth: The Edgy kernel does have a 'set -x' in its resume handler (at bootup) that prints info
[04:42] <Amaranth> cafuego: ah
[04:42] <cafuego> Amaranth: specifically the bit that determintes the volume-id
[04:42] <surface> !xchat
[04:42] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[04:42] <tanath> can anyone help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in other WMs, just not gnome
[04:42] <surface> !mouse
[04:42] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:43] <cafuego> akonkwa: No, I don't know for Xirc; I've never used it.
[04:43] <cassidy> so any other solution to my static problem?
[04:43] <tanath> surface, they work fine, just not in gnome
[04:43] <surface> tanath: !mouse
[04:43] <surface> oh
[04:44] <Senesence> wastrel: I was thinking something so I don't have to type 'mkdir dir/subdir/dir1 dir/subdir/dir2'. Is there a way to do just mkdir dir/subdir and then create both directories 1 and 2 under subdir without rewriting the path for dir 2??
[04:44] <Raz`> rofl. alt-s on a just-opened file in nano returns mumble mumble
[04:44] <cassidy> antone?
[04:45] <ootput> cassidy: he probably couldn't help
[04:45] <tokenbad> hmm..the ./configure isn't finding the files it needs even though installed
[04:45] <wastrel> Senesence:  not that i know of.
[04:45] <tanath> Senesence, mc makes it pretty easy and efficient to do stuff once you know how to use it
[04:45] <ootput> Senesence: mkdir -p
[04:46] <cassidy> whos that?
[04:46] <surface> Senesence:  www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[04:46] <ootput> Senesence: or, globbing: mkdir -p /newdir/{newsubdir1,newsubdir2/newsubusubdir3/}
[04:46] <ClayG> anyone know of a tabbed webbrowser for the cli?
[04:46] <tanath> Senesence, or gnome-commander, for gui version
[04:47] <ClayG> or a good RDP program for gnome?
[04:47] <ClayG> something like krdp but for gnome?
[04:47] <ootput> ClayG: w3m
[04:47] <ootput> ClayG: shift-T for tab
[04:47] <ClayG> for real?
[04:47] <ootput> fo shizzle
[04:47] <ClayG> nice, im using it now, lemme try that , how do you switch from tabs?
[04:48] <ootput> ClayG: shift-[/] 
[04:48] <knixtech> ttypewe4jim, hallo
[04:48] <ClayG> awsome , this has been asked probally 5 times in here and the closes anyone has come was "just run it in multiple screens"
[04:48] <ClayG> this is exactly what im looking for
[04:48] <ootput> ClayG: i'm a bit of a cli-junkie
[04:49] <ClayG> dont say that
[04:49] <ClayG> you'll have a stalker on your hands, lol
[04:49] <surface> ClayG why u need tat? u access to a pc using ssh to get internet connection?
[04:49] <ootput> ClayG: call it karma.. I remember stalking somebody else many years ago in #debian
[04:49] <tanath> can anyone help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in everything but gnome
[04:49] <ClayG> tat?
[04:50] <ClayG> whats tat? the rdp for gnome? wnating to be able to connect to my girls pc that runs xp and make changes
[04:50] <ClayG> at work i use putty (windoze) to ssh home on my nix system
[04:50] <surface> ClayG:  tab cli webbrowser
[04:50] <Senesence> ootput: Thank you very much, that was exactly what I wanted *Everyone here is so helpful, you guys are great*
[04:50] <Malachi> What's a good Nero Vision alternative for Linux?
[04:50] <ootput> Senesence: np
[04:50] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do I undelete stuff on a FAT32 volume?
[04:50] <THX-1138> ClayG - VNC >
[04:50] <ClayG> surface: ootput came up with the solution i needed
[04:50] <akonkwa> hey guys, is it possible to write on an ntsc volume?
[04:51] <THX-1138> ClayG - VNC ??
[04:51] <surface> ClayG:   vnc
[04:51] <ClayG> VNC is ok, but there is a nother program for gnome i had before forgot what it's called
[04:51] <akonkwa> oops hey guys, is it possible to write on an NTFS volume?
[04:51] <ClayG> with the RDP it is faster to set it up
[04:51] <surface> ClayG:  or cygwin +ssh server on windwos
[04:51] <ClayG> and i can connect from work, that is restricted
[04:51] <THX-1138> !ntfs
[04:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:51] <ClayG> i can use the nativer program that it has
[04:51] <OSUKid7> I'm still looking for a program similar to LogMeIn... anyone know of something like that?
[04:51] <ClayG> they wont allow any installations
[04:51] <ClayG> putty works but i would suppose because it is a standalone
[04:51] <eyequeue> OSUKid7, what does it do?
[04:51] <ClayG> i can drop to "dos" and run mstsc
[04:52] <eyequeue> !info logmein
[04:52] <ubotu> Package logmein does not exist in any distro I know
[04:52] <OSUKid7> eyequeue: it's a remote desktop program that initiates the connection from the host, thus allowing you to get around firewalls
[04:52] <OSUKid7> similar to GoToMyPC
[04:52] <eyequeue> OSUKid7, ssh then?
[04:52] <eyequeue> !info gotomypc
[04:52] <ubotu> Package gotomypc does not exist in any distro I know
[04:52] <OSUKid7> the problem with VNC or ssh is I'm going to be firewalled out of this computer
[04:53] <eyequeue> OSUKid7, you keep naming things that i have no idea about
[04:53] <ozzloy> how do i get amarok to playback *.flac?
[04:53] <OSUKid7> eyequeue: well take a look at www.logmein.com then?
[04:53] <ootput> OSUKid7: you can tunnel a lot of connections out of arbritary (non-firewalled) ports
[04:53] <ClayG> nice, i need grdesktop
[04:53] <ClayG> or at least that is what i used last time and liked
[04:53] <OSUKid7> octan: right... and I'm on a college network that's firewalled and vlanned a lot, so I'm not sure that will be possible
[04:54] <tyler_d> how do I make a link to /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Mozilla Firefox/firefox.exe ????
[04:54] <Malachi> What's a good Nero Vision alternative for Linux?
[04:54] <fistfullofroses> Why do you need wine for firefox?
[04:54] <ClayG> Malachi: gnometoaster is decent
[04:54] <eyequeue> Malachi, what does it do?
[04:54] <tyler_d> plugins
[04:55] <ootput> tyler_d: same question as fistfullofroses'
[04:55] <Malachi> It allows you to make DVDs from .avi's and other video formats, and slideshows, eyequeue
[04:55] <tyler_d> ootput: flash player won't play v.7, as well as cannot get shockwave to work
[04:55] <ootput> tyler_d: ln -s /complex/path /more/accessible/path
[04:55] <newbuntu> hello all
[04:55] <eyequeue> Malachi, you want a dvd burner then?  cdrecord
[04:55] <ozzloy> haha, i like how /more/accessible/path is actually longer and deeper
[04:55] <ootput> tyler_d: I'd suggest creating ~/bin, export PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[04:56] <Krankk> !bootloader
[04:56] <newbuntu> is it possible to ugrade from dapper to edgy ?
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <ootput> ozzloy: argh! :)
[04:56] <Krankk> !grub
[04:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:56] <eyequeue> newbuntu, possible, yes, recommended, no
[04:56] <newbuntu> okay thanks
[04:56] <ClayG>  damn cant connect
[04:56] <Malachi> eyequeue: Not exactly. I want to take, say, a bunch of podcasts in .avi format and be able to burn them to a DVD to play off my DVD player.
[04:56] <ClayG> i guess i need to tinker with zonealarm, or disable it
[04:56] <ClayG> rather do the first then teh later
[04:56] <wastrel> heh zone alarm
[04:56] <eyequeue> newbuntu, apart from the cautions, it is recommended as a fresh install presently
[04:56] <ShadowZen> hey everyone, I"m having a hell of a time getting wine to work with World of warcraft, allready compiled it from source with the patches and copied over the 2 dll's, but I can't seem to get wine to lauch it
[04:56] <newbuntu> what about apt-get dist-upgrade  from  breezy to dapper?
[04:57] <ShadowZen> anyone have any ideas ?
[04:57] <ootput> back in the day, zonealarm was the only windows firewall worth using
[04:57] <eyequeue> Malachi, um, wouldn't that be a dvd burning app them?
[04:57] <ootput> before they bloated the hell out of it
[04:57] <eyequeue> newbuntu, watch the bot
[04:57] <tanath> Malachi, k3b is really good. it's a KDE app, but no reason you can't use it in gnome.
[04:57] <eyequeue> !upgrade > newbuntu
[04:57] <ootput> even tinyfirewall wasn't as good
[04:57] <Malachi> eyequeue: Not exactly. Don't .avi files have to be encoded before playing on DVD?
[04:57] <newbuntu> thnaks
[04:58] <eyequeue> Malachi, i don't know, they're non-free and i don't have experience with them, sorry
[04:58] <newbuntu> II'm really liking dapper so I'm not sure why I would get edgy anyways
[04:58] <tanath> newbuntu, i did it without much difficulty... but you should prolly wait for edgy to be released and use backports until then
[04:58] <ootput> newbuntu: the race for the latest app versions is fun, but uneventful
[04:58] <eyequeue> newbuntu, /list #ubuntu+1   in irc, to see some reasons not to :)
[04:58] <Krankk> About reinstalling grub after a vista bootloader overwrite, is there a prefered method? Also, grub in the MBR or root?
[04:59] <cassidy> can somone give me the command to get frostwire to find the java directory so it will load?
[04:59] <philip> how do I restart the sound server? sound stops working on me
[04:59] <newbuntu> I've had the hardest time making downloaded avi files into dvd files that can be viewed on a stand-alone dvd player
[04:59] <ootput> Krankk: usually, grub in mbr
[04:59] <tyler_d> ootput: I totally didn't understand that at all?
[04:59] <newbuntu> ksysguard kill artsd
[04:59] <ShadowZen> you need to burn as a vid disk, play around with the app your using, it'll be an option
[04:59] <ootput> tyler_d: which part?
[05:00] <chuckf> newbuntu, it depends on your player and the encoders that you use.
[05:00] <tyler_d> ootput: what exactly should I be typing ??? in term???
[05:00] <roostishaw> anyone, what is the best supported/reccommended graphics card for xgl/compiz on ubuntu?
[05:00] <chuckf> newbuntu, I can play anything I make on my player, but friends and family report difficutly
[05:00] <eyequeue> roostishaw, #ubuntu-xgl
[05:00] <roostishaw> ok, my bad
[05:00] <ShadowZen> ATI chipset works the best for me > roostishaw
[05:00] <newbuntu> I'm most interested in a GUI that converts AVI or MPG into DVD but its hard, unless you use like 3 different programs
[05:00] <ootput> tyler_d: that latter comment was an instruction on adding an extra path for your shell session where you can place a symlink (ln -s) to your firefox program
[05:00] <ootput> tyler_d: yes, at the command line
[05:01] <ozzloy> how do i get flac playback?
[05:01] <tyler_d> ootput: so type ~/bin, export PATH=$PATH:~/bin??? just like that?
[05:02] <iCod> hey, whats a good recording program?
[05:02] <THX-1138> newbuntu - mencoder does some transcoding might be worth a look.
[05:02] <philip> how do I restart the sound server? sound stops working on me
[05:02] <ShadowZen> ozzloy > get the package. bah I forget the exact name it's in the restricted moduals
[05:02] <tyler_d> ootput: so what about placing a shortcut on the desktop?
[05:02] <ootput> tyler_d: mkdir ~/bin ; ln -s  /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Mozilla Firefox/firefox.exe ~/bin/winefox ; export PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[05:02] <Krankk> ootput: is this the default method ubuntu installs grub, in the mbr?
[05:02] <RogerRabb> Hey, is there a way to use cp on a file, so it doesn't read off the disk constantly, but just reads in 1MB chunks, then waits a few seconds, then does more?
[05:02] <ootput> tyler_d: replace ~/bin/winefox with ~/Desktop/winefox
[05:03] <ozzloy> ShadowZen: if you could point me to a place to look
[05:03] <ootput> Krankk: I believe so (though I've never actually used the ubuntu cd for installation, so I'm not sure what it defaults to)
[05:04] <ozzloy> i thought the 'f' in flac was for "free", why is it restricted, ShadowZen
[05:04] <ootput> Krankk: installation location of grub should be selectable with, at the very least, 'expert' boot option
[05:04] <TBay> ok i need someones help
[05:04] <TBay> like desperately
[05:04] <THX-1138> RogerRab - the dd command?????
[05:04] <tyler_d> ootput: ln: target `/home/tyler/Desktop/winefox' is not a directory
[05:04] <TBay> its probably a newb question
[05:04] <JoseStefan> !someone
[05:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:04] <Madpilot> TBay, helps if you actually ask the question first...
[05:04] <yallax> i got the new core 2 dup cpu.. if i install the x64 ver of ubuntu..will i have problems with diffrent apps not working like in the 64bit ver of winxp?
[05:04] <ootput> tyler_d: do you have a ~/Desktop folder?
[05:05] <ShadowZen> ozzloy> sudo apt-get gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[05:05] <THX-1138> Hi Madpilot.
[05:05] <ozzloy> ShadowZen: grazie
[05:05] <tyler_d> ootput:make one first??
[05:05] <TBay> ok, well i just installed dual boot with Kubuntu, and then i got to the login screen, and i don't know what to type in, i tried the "travis" which is what i had when i installed, but it said login error
[05:05] <TBay> and i don't know what the pass word is
[05:05] <Raz`> how do I install a .patch file?
[05:05] <Madpilot> hi THX-1138
[05:06] <Madpilot> TBay, you must have given a p/w during install?
[05:06] <ozzloy> ShadowZen: already newest version.  maybe the problem is amarok?
[05:06] <ootput> tyler_d: I'm using Xubuntu; that ~/Desktop hint was just an assumption
[05:06] <TBay> no, i never did
[05:06] <surface> use patch
[05:06] <deuce868> anyone setup Ubuntu in a VMware server guest? I installed vmware tools, but the mouse won't flow in/out of the guest window and wondering if anyone's done it?
[05:06] <TBay> it never asked
[05:06] <Hor|zon> Raz`, you don't install a patch file. You apply it to source code
[05:06] <chuckf> tbay what did you ype during install?
[05:06] <TBay> oh wait!
[05:06] <TBay> LOL
[05:06] <TBay> i am an idiot
[05:06] <tanath> can anyone help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in everything but gnome
[05:06] <TBay> i did i just remembered
[05:06] <Foorael> Raz: get into the source directory, then patch -p0 < foo.patch
[05:06] <TBay> holy crap
[05:06] <Foorael> Raz: If it fails, try -p1
[05:06] <Raz`> bah. I think I found the fix to my compiz problem but this is going to be tough :P
[05:06] <TBay> ok, let me log off and go back and see if i can get it to run :-)
[05:06] <Madpilot> TBay, problem solved? ;)
[05:06] <eyequeue> !compiz > Raz`
[05:06] <TBay> haha, yeah, wihtout any help but thanks for the support :-)
[05:07] <eyequeue> Raz`, wrong channel
[05:07] <Raz`> bah
[05:07] <ShadowZen> check synapteck for all the gstreamer plugins
[05:07] <Raz`> do I really need to join 4 topics for each sub-topic of the real problem?
[05:07] <THX-1138> Madpilot - You are a guru and always here. tanath has been asking about his mouse for awhile. can you help?
[05:08] <tyler_d> ootput: mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/tyler/bin': File exists
[05:08] <ootput> tyler_d: oh, then ~/bin may already be in your PATH. what's the output of echo $PATH?
[05:08] <Madpilot> THX-1138, I only fake being a guru. ;) What is tanath's mouse problem? Rodents generally just work...
[05:08] <THX-1138> I gave him ubotu's links !mouse etc - mentioned xmodmap and xev. - i still don't get it.
[05:09] <ozzloy> ShadowZen: i found gstreamer0.8-flac and installed it
[05:09] <Schalken> is there a eDonkey client for Gnome?
[05:09] <tanath> Madpilot, can you help me get the thumb buttons on my mouse working in gnome? they work in everything but gnome
[05:09] <ozzloy> but that seems kinda odd with the mismatch on gstreamer version, ShadowZen
[05:09] <tyler_d> ootput: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23706
[05:09] <ShadowZen> Ozzloy > it worked for me no problems
[05:09] <THX-1138> he has xfce installed also i think. is that important?
[05:10] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell tanath about mouse
[05:10] <Madpilot> tanath, try the first URL the bot just sent you
[05:10] <tanath> maddler, i said they work in everything but gnome
[05:10] <ShadowZen> ozzloy> now if I could get wine to work with WoW I'd be all set
[05:10] <ozzloy> ShadowZen: in amarok?
[05:10] <ShadowZen> Ozzloy> no
[05:10] <THX-1138> gconf-editor /apps/metacity/   ??
[05:10] <philip> my sound stops working recently (before a reboot would solve it). How do I restart the sound system?
[05:11] <Krankk> ootput: before I commit to one of these grub reinstall method. I do want to place it in the mbr, where it will allow me to chose a ubuntu boot (and other things) and Windows, where selecting Windows then loads the vista loader?
[05:11] <ozzloy> ShadowZen: could you try?
[05:11] <tanath> Madpilot, my xorg.conf is already correct
[05:11] <w30> Malachi, try QDVDAuthor, it's in the Ubuntu repos
[05:11] <Malachi> Thanks, w30.
[05:12] <tanath> Madpilot, i can log into, say, fluxbox, and they'll work fine
[05:12] <grynch> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=196767&cid=16122682 just look at what this guy said about ubuntu!
[05:12] <ozzloy> ShadowZen: or did you mean that you tried and it didn't work
[05:12] <Madpilot> tanath, I've only got a standard 3-button mouse, I've never messed with the many-buttoned variety. Sorry.
[05:12] <tanath> Madpilot, thx anyway
[05:13] <THX-1138> Madpilot - sry about that. - lol - i was stumped.
[05:13] <ootput> Krankk: once you install grub to the mbr, my suggestion is for you to boot up into ubuntu, and, at a commandline, issue update-grub. It should then scan your computer for existing OS (Vista included) and modify the bootloader config files appropriately
[05:14] <andrei> hello guys. i have installed XGL/Compiz and works fine. The problem is that the splash screen takes way too much to load (gnome-wm). How do i solve this ? thanks
[05:14] <holycow> andrei, you solve it by hitting  your head with a 2 x 4
[05:14] <holycow> you installed alpha software at best ... something not meant to be used but experimented with
[05:14] <holycow> unless you are a programmer you are asking a foolish question ... the solution requires that you provide a solution to that problem your self
[05:15] <Krankk> Thanks ootput
[05:15] <andrei> j
[05:15] <andrei> k
[05:15] <andrei> thank you
[05:15] <maghero> ekiga
[05:15] <ootput> Krankk: good luck
[05:15] <holycow> :) perspective is everything
[05:15] <wastrel> !cn
[05:15] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:16] <surface> wow great
[05:16] <Shishogan> hi, I'm using linux for the first time and trying to install a wireless network, but it doesn't show Wireless Connection when I click in Network Configurations
[05:17] <Shishogan> I'm using wireless LWG5410P
[05:17] <Shishogan> how do I install the driver?
[05:18] <surface> !wireless
[05:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:18] <Shishogan> thanks
[05:18] <THX-1138> Shisogan - sudo lspci will give you some information about your wireless card. - there is a handy guide here. we can help if you n geed more support.
[05:19] <Shishogan> ok
[05:20] <Raz`> I think my problem is compiz isn't even installed...but I've downloaded all the packages
[05:21] <alex222_>  /join #dreamhost
[05:21] <gurumeditationer> quick question : Will Xgl work better in edgy eft than it does currently in Dapper?
[05:21] <THX-1138> Raz - You have direct rendering? glxinfo |grep direct  - what howto did you use?
[05:21] <crimsun> gurumeditationer: maybe.
[05:22] <Raz`> yeah, I do
[05:22] <THX-1138> Hi crimsun.
[05:22] <Raz`> but compiz-start is command not found
[05:23] <BathroomNinja> good evening, I need some help
[05:23] <THX-1138> Hi
[05:24] <BathroomNinja> hi
[05:25] <Madpilot> BathroomNinja, it really helps if you ask an actual question if you need help...
[05:25] <Tonren> Hey guys, how would I determine the size of a folder hierarchy EXCLUDING a certain folder?
[05:25] <BathroomNinja> ah! correct, I was trying to see if anyone was actually alive
[05:25] <PB> hey everyone
[05:25] <wastrel> someone's always alive in this chan :] 
[05:26] <BathroomNinja> Tonren, with nautilus?
[05:26] <PB> Anyone know how to get ubuntu server on a b&w g3?
[05:26] <THX-1138> Only 850 users - we're empty
[05:26] <PB> goes on my powerbook ok but its not going on the g3
[05:26] <surface> Tonren : du -h foldername | grep -v subfolder u don;'t want
[05:26] <Tonren> BathroomNinja: CLI preferable
[05:26] <Tonren> surface: thanks
[05:27] <surface> Tonren: www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[05:27] <THX-1138> nice link.
[05:27] <BathroomNinja> here is my problem in short.  I'm trying to install ivtv, running Dapper, currently using the 2.6.15-26-k7 kernel
[05:28] <wastrel> Tonren:  du --exclude "subdir"
[05:28] <wastrel> er,  --exclude="subdir"
[05:28] <Tonren> wastrel: hardcore.
[05:29] <wastrel> man du :] 
[05:29] <PB> does anyone know what this is? "Token is too long near line 0 in file \install\yaboot.conf" ????
[05:29] <BathroomNinja> I can't get the module to load.  it apears to be an issue with the gcc version
[05:29] <BathroomNinja> when I force the modprobe (modprobe -f ivtv) I can get it to sorta load
[05:30] <BathroomNinja> I run dmesg, and get errors, along this line...
[05:30] <BathroomNinja> version magic '2.6.15-26-k7 SMP preempt K7 gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-26-k7 SMP preempt K7 gcc-4.0'
[05:30] <BathroomNinja> seems to indicate that I somehow compiled ivtv with gcc-3.4 right?
[05:30] <Raz`> holy crap I actually got it to work
[05:31] <wastrel> rock on dude
[05:31] <PB> does anyone know what this is? "Token is too long near line 0 in file \install\yaboot.conf" ???? Im getting it when I try to boot off the server cd on a ppc
[05:31] <Raz`> learned a bit in the process. so you have to sudo apt-get install to finalize the install of some packages?
[05:32] <BathroomNinja> I checked my kernel with 'cat /proc/version' and I tells me that I'm running 2.6.15-26-k7 compiled with gcc-4.0.3
[05:32] <PB> guess no one knows huh???
[05:32] <BathroomNinja> Raz, what where you installing?
[05:33] <BathroomNinja> PB, have you verified the media?
[05:33] <Tonren> surface: wastrel: Wait.... how do I sum du's results, though?
[05:33] <PB> yes  it works on my powerbook but now my g3
[05:33] <PB> *not
[05:33] <Raz`> XGL and compiz
[05:33] <Raz`> I was having all sorts of problems all day, lol
[05:34] <BathroomNinja> with ppc, I really can't help  you.  sorry, but I'm sure someone else can
[05:34] <surface> du -sh
[05:34] <wastrel> Tonren:  du -s -h --exclude="subdir" <target directory>
[05:34] <Raz`> but it works now yar
[05:34] <wastrel> -h = human readable
[05:34] <wastrel> -s = summarize.   man du  :] 
[05:34] <Raz`> but i had to do an install command to finalize the compiz packages
[05:34] <BathroomNinja> Raz, XGL was a real pain to setup
[05:34] <Raz`> the problem was I didn't have compiz installed
[05:34] <Tonren> wastrel: Oh, jesus.  Sorry. I can't believe I missed that
[05:34] <Tonren> wastrel: thanks
[05:34] <Raz`> which sounds really stupid
[05:34] <PB> when i type install or expert at the boot: prompt i get "not a valid ELF image"
[05:35] <tedivm> Raz`, compiz through me around so much last week
[05:35] <Raz`> lol
[05:35] <Raz`> i slaved for 7 hours on it, and I'm nearly totally new to linux
[05:35] <PB> do you think xbuntu might be required since its an older machine?
[05:35] <Raz`> this gui is so nasty, rofl
[05:36] <tedivm> i eventually said screw it, it wasn't worth my time
[05:36] <Wheats> i'm terribly new to linux..i need some help
[05:36] <Wheats> can i get some do you think?
[05:36] <PB> Thats what im about to say
[05:36] <PB> thanks anyway guys
[05:36] <PB> tlater
[05:36] <ozzloy> arg!  this is annoying.  playback of flac works on totem but not amarok!  what do i do to get it working in amarok?
[05:36] <tedivm> and then when i went back to just regular old gnome, i realized it screwed it up and metacity wasn't loading
[05:37] <tedivm> Wheats, what do you want help with?
[05:37] <Wheats> i'm, not sure how to get mp3's and other music types to work
[05:37] <Wheats> and moives
[05:37] <jrib> !mp3 > Wheats
[05:37] <tedivm> well, have you tried prayer?
[05:37] <wastrel> heh
[05:37] <tedivm> just kidding
[05:37] <wastrel> that's for nethack
[05:37] <THX-1138> tedvim - disappointing that it doesn't work. - same trouble here. xcompmgr/transset works very well.
[05:38] <tedivm> Wheats, try this - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:38] <Wheats> will do
[05:38] <AZzKikR> THEY TOOK OUR JERBZ!
[05:38] <tedivm> i think i'll just set up a script in here looking for key words that just spams out the FAQ
[05:38] <tedivm> or i would but i'm lazy
[05:39] <ataq> hey does anybody know of a decent text based msn client?
[05:39] <bigmac> hey i have a problem
[05:39] <ozzloy> ataq: bitlbee
[05:39] <kitche> !ask
[05:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:39] <botxj> GAIM GAIM GAIM!
[05:39] <kitche> atag: tmsn
[05:39] <kitche> atag: tmsnc forgot the c part of it
[05:39] <bigmac> My PCI-E graphics card will not work. I downloaded the ATI driver, but it still simply wont load
[05:39] <Wheats> thought i'd be polite and ask to ask a question lol
[05:40] <ataq> thanks, are they all in the ubuntu repos?
[05:40] <xithilinx> wow support
[05:40] <kpin> hey guys
[05:40] <kpin> I heard your distro is the best for xgl and compiz
[05:40] <xithilinx> It would be awesome
[05:40] <kpin> easy installation
[05:40] <xithilinx> if someone in support would answer
[05:40] <Wheats> how do i get amrok
[05:40] <ozzloy> ataq: apt-get install bitlbee  should work
[05:40] <ataq> nice one thanks
[05:40] <jrib> !info amarok
[05:41] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[05:41] <kitche> ozzloy: he doesn't need to install it
[05:41] <jrib> Wheats: are you using GNOME or KDE?
[05:41] <botxj> why dont you people like to visually install your shit like using the Synaptic Package Manager?
[05:41] <ozzloy> it shows up in dapper drake
[05:41] <kitche> ataq: just connect to im.bitlbee.org
[05:41] <BathroomNinja> !info ivtv
[05:41] <ubotu> Package ivtv does not exist in any distro I know
[05:41] <ozzloy> oh woops
[05:41] <kpin> Xgl+compiz is the most important thing for ubuntu to have in the states, loaded on thier cd's.....allready set up, just have to choose it at the splash screen. do it, and your god
[05:41] <wastrel> xithilinx:  go ahead with your question
[05:41] <BathroomNinja> LIES!!
[05:41] <xithilinx> Hey anyone in here no what the problem is when I use ubuntu the "installation cd" it just boots up with the install ect I press 1 for it to install than it just goes to that bar on the screen and does completly nothing and freezes?
[05:41] <Wheats> i dont know :(
[05:41] <ozzloy> kitche: o rry?  neato
[05:41] <Burgundavia> There is an online tutorial on using package management tools, including Add/Remove, Synaptic and Aptitude in 20 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:41] <Wheats> man i need to learn lo
[05:41] <jrib> Wheats: hmm did you install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:41] <Wheats> im thinkin gnome
[05:42] <Wheats> its gnome..ubuntu
[05:42] <xithilinx> ^^anyone?
[05:42] <BathroomNinja> xithilinx, have you verified your media?
[05:42] <xithilinx> verified?
[05:42] <jrib> Wheats: k, go to system > administration > synaptic, then just install amarok from there
[05:42] <xithilinx> I can't even get it to install
[05:42] <Wheats> ok
[05:42] <BathroomNinja> when you boot up to the CD...
[05:42] <kitche> ozzloy: bitlbee is more of a server
[05:42] <BathroomNinja> it has an option to check the install media
[05:42] <xithilinx> yes I have
[05:42] <Wheats> i shall look into it
[05:42] <BathroomNinja> takes about 7 minutes or so
[05:42] <xithilinx> doesn't matter which install
[05:42] <xithilinx> kubuntu
[05:42] <xithilinx> live cd
[05:42] <kpin> XGL
[05:42] <xithilinx> anything
[05:42] <kpin> COMPIX
[05:42] <kpin> COMPIZ
[05:42] <xithilinx> anything with a blue bar and no text
[05:42] <xithilinx> it just sits there
[05:43] <kpin> needed
[05:43] <BathroomNinja> interesting.  what are your system specs, if you know them
[05:43] <xithilinx> one time it crashed and told me something about xserver
[05:43] <kitche> ozzloy: anyways all it is, is an IRC server that you can connect to that you can use msn yahoo and all of that good stuff
[05:43] <kpin> once xgl and compiz is in there......you 0wn
[05:43] <xithilinx> 3800x2 x800xl audigy 2 zs
[05:43] <THX-1138> burgandavia - AlinuxOS wanted to help with translation to Georgian.
[05:43] <kpin> XGL
[05:43] <kpin> oh
[05:43] <xithilinx> an8sli
[05:43] <ozzloy> kitche: that's cool
[05:43] <kpin> and COMPIX
[05:43] <Wheats> what should i be typing..like do i jsut search amrok
[05:43] <kpin> compiz
[05:44] <Wheats> amarok*
[05:44] <kpin> compiz
[05:44] <seshomaru123> hello- I have an onboard VGA card called : SiS M661MX . anyone knows if I have any chance running aiglx/compiz on it? (this laptop has 516mB memory)
[05:44] <kpin> see?
[05:44] <kpin> see?
[05:44] <xithilinx> and that's about it
[05:44] <kpin> compiz
[05:44] <kpin> xgl
[05:44] <cM0ss> what is the easiest and quickest way to install ubuntu with a smp kernel?
[05:44] <kpin> its god
[05:44] <THX-1138> Brgandavia - AlinuxOS wanted to help with translation to Georgian.
[05:44] <Wheats> that might be why it wasnt working lol
[05:44] <unfknblvbl> if a printer can be installed on OSX, can you recompile the OSX driver to work on linux ?
[05:44] <xithilinx> I did manage to get kubuntu to install via alternative install
[05:44] <kpin> XGL and compiz is ubuntu's problems
[05:44] <xithilinx> so I bet it has something to do with not working well with my x800xl
[05:45] <BathroomNinja> xithilinx, what happened with the kubuntu install?
[05:45] <kpin> answer to its problems i meant
[05:45] <xithilinx> but with kubuntu it still freezes
[05:45] <wastrel> xithilinx:  laptop?
[05:45] <xithilinx> get's past the ok messages
[05:45] <xithilinx> than bam frozen at the blue screen
[05:45] <xithilinx> and no
[05:45] <kpin> compiz is needed in ubuntu
[05:45] <kpin> .
[05:45] <xithilinx>  blue bar* screen
[05:45] <kpin> put in
[05:45] <AlinuxOS> THX-1138, translating what ?I'm little bit confused ?
[05:45] <kpin> XGL
[05:45] <kpin> COMPIZ
[05:45] <kpin> du
[05:45] <kpin> h
[05:45] <bigmac> Any one here have an ATI-700x Radeon PCI-e?
[05:45] <Wheats> whats KDE?
[05:45] <xithilinx> it's just a pc
[05:45] <BathroomNinja> I have to reboot, brb
[05:45] <kitche> kpin: just use aiglx and compiz lol
[05:46] <THX-1138> Alinux - hm - i must be mistaken could of sworn it was you.
[05:46] <jrib> Wheats: it's a different desktop environment
[05:46] <xithilinx> so does anyone have any idea on how to help
[05:46] <Wheats> so which one of aramokshold i choose
[05:46] <kpin> common desktop enviroment you moron n00b\
[05:46] <AlinuxOS> THX-1138, yes I'm from Ubuntu/GNOME georgian translation team.
[05:46] <kpin> damm
[05:46] <Wheats> f you kpin
[05:46] <AlinuxOS> THX-1138, are you Georgian ? :)
[05:46] <jrib> Wheats: which choices are you given?
[05:46] <botxj> lol, "moron n00b"
[05:47] <Wheats> umm
[05:47] <jrib> kpin: don't do that here please
[05:47] <kpin> compile kde
[05:47] <xithilinx> nope guess not
[05:47] <kpin> k
[05:47] <kpin> apt-get install kde
[05:47] <wastrel> xithilinx:  do you get to command line?
[05:47] <THX-1138> Wanted you to have the needed info. ;)
[05:47] <Wheats> aramok..aramok arts and koptete
[05:47] <Wheats> kopete*
[05:47] <xithilinx> and when would I get the command line
[05:47] <wastrel> xithilinx:  or you might be able to access the command line using ctrl-alt-f1
[05:47] <czer323> Are there any similar log file managers similar to "console" from the mac os?
[05:47] <xithilinx> yes that works
[05:47] <xithilinx> but what will it do for me
[05:47] <jrib> Wheats: you want "amarok"
[05:47] <Wheats> si
[05:47] <wastrel> xithilinx:  let you fix the prob and get on with it ;] 
[05:48] <xithilinx> I don't know what to do inside nor do I have any exp with linux
[05:48] <kpin> tik
[05:48] <kpin> gaim
[05:48] <czer323> Ability to sort messages by certain keywords and better ability to find messages through the logs folder?
[05:48] <kpin> naim even better
[05:48] <xithilinx> let me fix the problem?
[05:48] <seshomaru123> ubuntu people, can anyone answer this question: what are the chances of running compiz/aiglex on an onboard VGA card called : SiS M66 MX (lenovo laptop with 516MB memory)?
[05:48] <cM0ss> anyone loaded a smp kernel????
[05:48] <wastrel> xithilinx:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75775.html  might help
[05:48] <xithilinx> if I had a clue on how it won't install on my pc I would fix it myself
[05:48] <Wheats> wont work
[05:48] <kitche> czer323: there is mc which stands for midnight commander not sure if that what you exactly want though
[05:48] <xithilinx> hmm
[05:48] <jrib> Wheats: what did it say?
[05:49] <czer323> kitche> not a file manager, but a LOG file manager
[05:49] <kitche> xithilinx: what does it say by chance?
[05:49] <jrib> Wheats: also, try to prefix what you say with my name, so that my highlight works
[05:49] <kitche> czer323: oh ok hmm there is a few but not sure the exact names
[05:49] <Wheats> bunch i things i cant fo
[05:49] <Wheats> jrib: bunch of things i cant do
[05:50] <jrib> Wheats: hmm ok open up applications > accessories > terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install amarok'.  Then if that gives you errors, copy them and post them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Then give us a link
[05:50] <jrib> Wheats: be sure to close synaptic before using apt-get
[05:51] <Wheats> jrib:ok
[05:51] <kitche> seshomaru123: might help you with the requirements for aiglx http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geuqkexgxF8wcAd6JXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE2MGFyZzJ0BGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANGODA5Xzgz/SIG=128kq18ck/EXP=1158551454/**http%3a//fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
[05:51] <kpin> omg, ubuntu is coo and everything but too many noobs in here, here is a list of programs and protocols you should know by heard.......kde, fluxbox, gnome, mc, htop, top, ytalk, pop3, smtp, ssh, (Telnet sux) vnc, terminal, bash, apt-get, snort, ethereal, ifup, ifdown, ifconfig, nmap -sT <ip>, wlan, and many more..........
[05:51] <kitche> opps shoulda clicked the link first
[05:51] <kpin> heart*
[05:51] <seshomaru123> kitche, thanks
[05:51] <ximi> I have ndivida card and I'm stuck with 640x480 resolution. How can I fix it?
[05:52] <kpin> easy
[05:52] <cM0ss> kpin: know if there is a way to install the smp kernel from the start of install?
[05:52] <kpin> dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xfree86
[05:52] <kpin> no
[05:52] <kpin> must install
[05:52] <kpin> download the module
[05:52] <kpin> and reconfigure kernel
[05:52] <kpin> easy
[05:53] <kpin> easier than xgl and compiz latley
[05:53] <jrib> !enter
[05:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:53] <kitche> cM0ss: there is a ubuntu smp kernel already made'
[05:53] <cM0ss> kpin: too much time
[05:53] <seshomaru123> kitche, it says that "it might work" , there are many guides in the Ubuntu forum ,but all of them seem to be nVidia or ATI specific, do you know a neutral one?
[05:53] <cM0ss> kitche: cool
[05:53] <THX-1138> !intel
[05:53] <wastrel> kpin:  write a howto
[05:53] <cM0ss> kitche: how do I get it during the beginning of the install?
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <kitche> seshomaru123: I got it working on an intel
[05:54] <kitche> cM0ss: you can't that I know of
[05:54] <ozzloy> for those of you looking for a way to do flac in amarok, i have just found that it is impossible at this time:  http://xrl.us/rruk (Link to ubuntuforums.org)
[05:54] <seshomaru123> kitche, which guide did you follow?
[05:54] <cM0ss> great
[05:54] <Wheats> jrib: Reading package lists... Done
[05:54] <Wheats> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:54] <Wheats> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[05:54] <Wheats> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:54] <Wheats> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:54] <Wheats> or been moved out of Incoming.
[05:54] <kitche> seshomaru123: no guide
[05:54] <seshomaru123> Kitche , or did you compile from source?
[05:54] <Wheats> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[05:54] <Wheats> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[05:54] <Wheats> that package should be filed.
[05:54] <Wheats> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[05:54] <Wheats> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:54] <Wheats>   amarok: Depends: libtunepimp2 (>= 0.3.0) but it is not going to be installed
[05:54] <Wheats> E: Broken packages
[05:54] <Wheats> dammit
[05:55] <Wheats> lol
[05:55] <Wheats> 29711
[05:55] <Wheats> 23711
[05:55] <Wheats> thats the url
[05:55] <Madpilot> Wheats, pastebin next time, thanks...
[05:55] <kitche> cM0ss: after an install just open up symatianic(spelling is wrong) and look up kernels and you should see the smp one
[05:55] <Madpilot> !paste
[05:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:55] <Wheats> lol
[05:55] <Wheats> tries
[05:55] <Krankk> ooput: I'm the grub and windows guy. Something went wrong in the rescue. It appeared to replace the mbr, but grub never showed on boot
[05:55] <Wheats> didnt copy right
[05:55] <kitche> seshomaru123: I compiled xorg 7.1 from source
[05:56] <jrib> Wheats: ok, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:56] <seshomaru123> kitche, xorg 7.1 comes with compiz?
[05:56] <kitche> Krankk: well windows will override any mbr it can find
[05:56] <Milktea> I'm using SCIM
[05:56] <kitche> seshomaru123: nope I compiled that as well xorg 7.1 is needed for aiglx
[05:56] <Milktea> But I can't get japanese input
[05:56] <ataq> hey i tried that bitlbee and it wont start, first there was a lock on /var/bitlbee so i changed the permissions. anyone know how to fix this?
[05:56] <Milktea> to work in openoffice
[05:57] <HesNikke> so it wants to upgrade my kernel... will it run smoothly or should i hold off?
[05:57] <THX-1138> !cim
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <THX-1138> !scim
[05:57] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[05:57] <nickoy> what would happen if you accidentally swallow a maggot that's alive?
[05:57] <Krankk> I was attempting to reinstall grub in the mbr. When I type "find /root/grub/stage1" what partition should it be telling me?\
[05:57] <AlinuxOS> people, I would like to assemble a computer for me and I would like to choose AMD sutable motherboard, can you tell me some new 100% supported motherboards ?
[05:57] <jrib> !offtopic
[05:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:57] <nickoy> coz i think i was drinking a cup of coke and i think i saw a maggot
[05:57] <kpin> the heres an idea....ubuntu
[05:57] <seshomaru123> kitche, as a linux beginner , do you think it will be posible for me to do it ?
[05:57] <PathagenX> AlinuxOS, Anything Asus
[05:57] <kitche> ataq: connect to the irc server im.bitlbee.org and that is bitlbee
[05:58] <Milktea> nickoy, it'll die in your stomach
[05:58] <Wheats> wow
[05:58] <kpin> put compiz and xgl in your next release
[05:58] <ataq> n1 thanks
[05:58] <kitche> seshomaru123: well think ubuntu uses xorg 7.1 never really checked
[05:58] <nickoy> Milktea: how?
[05:58] <Wheats> im just messed up now
[05:58] <nickoy> i aint joking
[05:58] <nickoy> im serious
[05:58] <AlinuxOS> PathagenX, thanks.
[05:58] <mutk> nickoy, The maggot is usually a fly. So the maggot will turn into a fly, and eat you from the inside..
[05:58] <kitche> kpin: XGL is alpha it's not even stable
[05:58] <kpin> dog
[05:58] <kpin> go on the web
[05:58] <wastrel> nickoy:  stomach acid will kill it, you'll digest it
[05:58] <wastrel> nickoy:  good protein
[05:58] <Milktea> nickoy, stomach acid
[05:58] <nickoy> oh
[05:58] <kpin> many people use it sucessfully
[05:58] <kpin> there are videos
[05:59] <kitche> kpin: yes but it's not stable
[05:59] <Burgundavia> There is an online tutorial on using package management tools, including Add/Remove, Synaptic and Aptitude in 2 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:59] <kpin> it runs better than mac
[05:59] <Wheats> jrib: thanks alot for the help, it's no use right now.  sorry im giving up lol..i'll jsut get Kgee to come over and help me one day
[05:59] <THX-1138> linux compatible  http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility.html
[05:59] <kpin> very stable
[05:59] <nickoy> how long does it take though?
[05:59] <PathagenX> mutk, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:59] <mutk> PathagenX, Uhuh. Thanks for that..
[05:59] <jrib> Wheats: ok, well make sure you have the official repositories in there because libtunepimp2 doesn't seem to exist anywhere
[05:59] <kitche> kpin: sorry but it doesn't run on my hardware and trust me aiglx is more stable then XGL since they were the same project at one pint which comes with xorg 7.1
[05:59] <Krankk> I liked XGL as it made the whole GUI snappier.
[05:59] <Schalken> can ubuntu read and write a reiserfs filesystem?
[06:00] <Wheats> jrib: lol apparently i dont think i do
[06:00] <PathagenX> Schalken, Yes.
[06:00] <Wheats> jrib: kgee gave me a bunch but meh
[06:00] <Schalken> PathagenX: yay, thanks!
[06:00] <THX-1138> kitche - do you have a howto link?
[06:00] <kitche> ataq: what irc client do you use by chance I'll walk you though the steps
[06:00] <mutk> PathagenX, I think perhaps you can point it out to nickoy and Milktea that they are off topic too, since they chatted a little more about it than my one line of stupidity..
[06:00] <PathagenX> Schalken, np
[06:00] <kitche> THX-1138: howto for what
[06:01] <THX-1138> aiglx?
[06:01] <PathagenX> mutk,  Was just about to. But now I will let you do it.
[06:01] <phaedrus44> how do i get xvideo into my xserver?
[06:01] <kitche> THX-1138: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
[06:01] <jrib> Wheats: libtunepimp2 was only in wart and hoary (first 2 releases of ubuntu)
[06:01] <kpin> debian
[06:01] <kpin> awsome
[06:01] <THX-1138> Ah. many thanks.
[06:01] <kpin> works great
[06:01] <kpin> xgl and compiz
[06:01] <kpin> 100%
[06:01] <kitche> THX-1138: it's pretty much the same as XGL but it's indirect rendering
[06:01] <Wheats> jrib: yes this is a computer that he gave me when he was jsut starting linux
[06:01] <kitche> kpin: your a troll it seems
[06:01] <kpin> no
[06:01] <Wheats> jrib: so its old
[06:01] <kpin> i use 4 distros
[06:01] <kpin> i like em all
[06:02] <jrib> Wheats: k
[06:02] <unfknblvbl> hey Rhythm box should be able to play mp3's correct ?
[06:02] <kitche> kpin: just compile iyt
[06:02] <Wheats> jrib: and i havent been on it long enough to learn yet
[06:02] <PathagenX> !restricted
[06:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:02] <Wheats> jrib: sadly
[06:02] <jrib> !mp3 > unfknblvbl
[06:02] <THX-1138> !restrictedformats
[06:02] <PathagenX> unfknblvbl, that was for you
[06:02] <kpin> i hate that word troll.......soo geek
[06:02] <unfknblvbl> yeh i thought as much
[06:02] <THX-1138> !restrictedformat
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictedformat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <THX-1138> ubotu is napping - lol
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is napping - lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <kpin> and no one actually laughs out loud, if you do, your a homo watching gay porn
[06:03] <Wheats> jrib: thanks again..ciao
[06:03] <wastrel> language
[06:03] <THX-1138> !language
[06:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:03] <wastrel> ah someone who isn't too lazy to type punctuation :] 
[06:03] <THX-1138> Ubuntu - humanity, community
[06:03] <Milchmann> hi! i have free space in front of a ext3 partition. is it possible to add that unalocated space to the ext3 partiton? gparted lets me only add space behind the partiton
[06:05] <monocle> !ubotu
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[06:05] <botxj> !something
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[06:05] <monocle> !anything
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[06:05] <Milchmann> !ext3
[06:05] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:06] <seshomaru123> kitche , is there anyway i can check if im running xorg 7.1?
[06:06] <Milchmann> !gparted
[06:06] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:06] <wastrel> !fishing
[06:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[06:06] <THX-1138> Milchman - this isn't a perfect solution. certainly not anything like partition magic.   http://eduardosextafeira.blogspot.com/2006/07/moving-root-partition-in-linux.html
[06:07] <NuclearWaffle> o.o
[06:07] <kpin> ahahahaha
[06:07] <kpin> partition magic?
[06:08] <kpin> you really didnt say that did you?
[06:08] <kpin> if anything......fdisk
[06:08] <Milchmann> thx THX i got partion magic as well here, but im hesitating to touch a linux filesystem with it
[06:08] <kpin> fdisk is better than partition maik
[06:08] <kpin> magic
[06:08] <kpin> nooooooooo
[06:08] <kpin> dont
[06:08] <Milchmann> hm?
[06:08] <kpin> fdisk
[06:08] <kpin> cfdisk
[06:09] <NuclearWaffle> So is anyone still available for help?
[06:09] <NuclearWaffle> o.o
[06:10] <GuitarHero11> where is font folder i drag fonts to to install them
[06:12] <NuclearWaffle> Well, I'll ask anyway, in case someone comes back later: I'm trying to get Xorg to work on an Ubuntu 6.06 server install with a Radeon X850 but it refuses to work; anyone know a reason? ><;;
[06:12] <THX-1138> !fonts
[06:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:12] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:12] <names_mike> isnt the folder fonts://
[06:12] <THX-1138> name_mike - nice tip. - it's rough being new.
[06:12] <unfknblvbl> NuclearWaffle: my card is too new for ubuntu to recognise
[06:13] <unfknblvbl> NuclearWaffle: I left to use the vesa driver
[06:13] <NuclearWaffle> Yeah, I did that and then my monitor says "Input Not Supported."
[06:13] <phaedrus44> how can i install and use xvideo  for the xorg  ?
[06:14] <glick> excuse me i did the recommended kernel update though synaptic, and when i issue the command uname -a
[06:14] <NuclearWaffle> Though since I set it to 1280x1024@60hz it should...
[06:14] <NuclearWaffle> ><;;
[06:14] <unfknblvbl> NuclearWaffle: hrmm well i got no idea >.<
[06:14] <glick> i see its a SMP kernel
[06:14] <glick> but i only have one processor
[06:14] <glick> whats that all about?
[06:14] <NuclearWaffle> Should I try setting it to a lower resolution, or what?
[06:14] <unfknblvbl> NuclearWaffle: mebe go to ati.com and check for linux driver update mebe ?
[06:14] <NuclearWaffle> I don't think that's very likely, but sure.
[06:14] <NuclearWaffle> Lol.
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> anything fun to do?
[06:15] <unfknblvbl> in order to get my card to work with centOS [RHEL 4] , I went to the nvidia website and grabbed the linux driver from there
[06:15] <stiz> glick: intel cpu with hyperthreading?
[06:15] <wastrel> glick:  the 686 kernel is smp apparently
[06:15] <unfknblvbl> so you never know
[06:15] <THX-1138> names_mike - fonts://    can you add all types of fonts there?
[06:15] <wastrel> glick:  same thing here :]   SMP in the kernel string thingy
[06:16] <NuclearWaffle> Yeah, I don't see anything.
[06:16] <glick> stiz, i just have a pentium 4 M
[06:16] <names_mike> THX: yea i think so, i have lots in that folder
[06:16] <NuclearWaffle> ATI's been promising linux drivers for a while now though. I think.
[06:16] <JoseStefan> glick, the 686 kernel is also SMP, but it doesn't matter if you have a uni-processor
[06:16] <THX-1138> names_mike - nice
[06:17] <glick> JoseStefan, why does it not matter?
[06:17] <NuclearWaffle> So nobody knows what to do about my X problem? ><;;
[06:17] <glick> SMP kernels spinlock the CPU which doesnt make sense on uniprocessor machines
[06:17] <JoseStefan> glick, that's the way it was compiled, it will work with both SMP and uni-processors
[06:19] <eternalswd> found out something interesting today.  the flash audio/video sync problem has disappeared for me since I installed the mozilla build of firefox.  what exactly is in the patch that is put on the ubuntu build?
[06:19] <seshomaru123> say , can anyone tell me how do i know which version of xorg am i running?
[06:19] <wizard1> hi all i have a xp box i want to talk to my ubuntu using samba.  i can access the shares on ubuntu but cant access my mounted folder as it says no permission, how can i give permission? only root can see the mounted share
[06:21] <stiz> when will edgy eft be released stable aprox? this system I am on now havent been able to get any linux distro to run stable, tried about 10 distros... Edgy Eft is the first time ive had linux run more then 10min on this computer
[06:21] <THX-1138> stiz - was it late october?
[06:21] <stiz> 6.06 locks up in 10sec-5min
[06:21] <eternalswd> wizard1 did you give yourself access to the mount point?
[06:22] <Newbuntu> greetings
[06:22] <ataq> i made a teamspeak server for ubuntu, so that people with problems and stuff can go to. its ataq.sytes.net:8767
[06:22] <stiz> eh, hi
[06:22] <wizard1> eternalswd:  i can only access the mount when i sudo
[06:22] <stiz> late october, cool
[06:23] <unfknblvbl> ataq: thats pretty cool of you
[06:23] <wizard1> eternalswd: nevermind fixed it.. had to change security to share
[06:23] <Madpilot> ataq, too bad teamspeak is closed-source software
[06:23] <Newbuntu> I have a problem when I boot I get a prompt only, and if I hold esc  I get a list of about 6 kernels and recovery modes ... how can I repair my grub bootloader so that it auto picks the right kernel? thanks in advance
[06:23] <eternalswd> wizard1, in you may need to do "sudo chmod 0775 /path/to/mount" but do this with the share unmounted
[06:23] <ataq> its all good!
[06:24] <wastrel> stiz:  have you done a memory test?
[06:24] <wizard1> ok thanks anyway eternalswd
[06:24] <ataq> madpilot: what program do you recommend?
[06:25] <Madpilot> ataq, for group voice chat? No idea, actually.
[06:25] <fishy> I'm using Windows. Are there applications I can use to transfer data from my Linux partition to my Windows partition (I'm dual-booting) without booting into Linux?
[06:25] <harisund> Hello! can someone point me towards some good tutorial for internet connection sharing using Ubuntu? (iptables -- nat) .. I tried following on online howto, but though I could share internet, I couldn't log onto any IRC channel. Anybody knows why?
[06:26] <THX-1138> !firewall
[06:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[06:26] <ataq> madpilot, ya thats why i used teamspeak because its popular and easy to use. but true for you, its a pity its closed code
[06:26] <harisund> THX-1138: very friendly that was .. firestarter doesn't recognize my DHCP server. I don't know whether to file a bug or not ..
[06:26] <conner> fishy, not really. Unless you want to buy something like Captain Nemo.
[06:26] <THX-1138> harisund - darn - i am not very good at networking. - sorry.
[06:27] <harisund> THX-1138: no problem .. thanks anyway :)
[06:27] <Madpilot> fishy, use a FAT32 partition; both Win & Linux can read & write that. There are also Windows drivers available for ext2 & ext3
[06:27] <Newbuntu> is there a GUI for changing grub settings?
[06:27] <fishy> Madpilot: Where would I get those?
[06:28] <Madpilot> fishy, the ext3 drivers?
[06:28] <fishy> Madpilot: Yeah.
[06:28] <wastrel> ipmasq it used to be called
[06:29] <unfknblvbl> ataq: ventrilo has far better voice quality than teamspeak, shame ventrilo requires money for a server
[06:29] <harisund> Newbuntu: if you want, you could paste the contents of your /boot/grub/menu.lst online, and somebody (even me :)) can help you fix what you want.
[06:29] <Madpilot> fishy,  http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:29] <NuclearWaffle> Um, how do I grab a file off a URL without a browser?
[06:29] <harisund> wastrel: yes, it's called IpMasquerading or NAT.....
[06:29] <keegan_> Is there a better menu editor for Xubuntu?
[06:29] <harisund> NuclearWaffle: you could use wget on the comman dline.
[06:29] <krups> NuclearWaffle - wget
[06:29] <THX-1138> NuclearWaffle, wget
[06:29] <silvaran> NuclearWaffle: wget
[06:29] <silvaran> :)
[06:29] <NuclearWaffle> OK. >.
[06:29] <NuclearWaffle> *>.>
[06:29] <NuclearWaffle> Thanks.
[06:29] <harisund> Wow! 4 consecutive answers for wget :)
[06:29] <NuclearWaffle> Lol.
[06:29] <ataq> unfmblvbl; is that also out for linux ya?
[06:29] <Madpilot> how many people can we get to simultaneously recommend wget? ;)
[06:29] <silvaran> Heheh...
[06:30] <wastrel> harisund:  i did it many years ago ... now i have a linksys thingy
[06:30] <harisund> Madpilot: do you know of any other tool that is as sweet as wget? I have wget running on my Cygwin as well :)
[06:30] <silvaran> Madpilot: Don't push it :)
[06:30] <THX-1138> wget example  http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000573.html
[06:30] <silvaran> harisund: curl! :)
[06:30] <wastrel> harisund:  if i were you i'd look for a general 'nix-y howto
[06:30] <keegan_> Does alacarte work for xubuntu menu or just for gnome?
[06:30] <wastrel> rather than ubuntu-specific
[06:31] <harisund> silvaran: I thought curl has sometihng to do with php? no?
[06:31] <Amaranth> keegan_: just gnome
[06:31] <keegan_> Damn...I wish xfce would make a better menu editor...I can't stand it
[06:31] <unfknblvbl> ataq: not sure, but it costs money to get a server that holds more 8 ppl
[06:31] <silvaran> harisund: Nope, afaict, curl is a general file retrieval util like wget.  Redhat specific, maybe.
[06:31] <unfknblvbl> ataq: type unfkn then press tab to autocomplete
[06:31] <harisund> wastrel: yeah .. the problem is this. Most so called 'how-to's simply give a list of commands to execute. No howto out there actually explains what each howto does :( :( :(
[06:31] <foo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1242104#post1242104 - I am trying to install gnucash 2 ... I get some dependency errors trying to install with dpkg -i .. can I install with apt-get or aptitude or something to pick up the dependencies?
[06:32] <THX-1138> lol - paranoia keeps me from using anything named after ventrilloquisim.
[06:32] <silvaran> apt-cache search curl: ... curl - Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server
[06:32] <ataq> unfmblvbl; what is that for?
[06:32] <harisund> silvaran: ah .. interesting ... I have installed php-curl(libphpcurl or something) but didn't know it was a stand alone tool .. neat.. thanks ..
[06:33] <wastrel> harisund:  what is your setup?  you've got 2 NIC's in your ubuntu box? one for wan and one for lan?
[06:33] <ataq> unfknblvbl: ah i got it!
[06:33] <unfknblvbl> lol
[06:33] <harisund> wastrel: yeah . eth0 is WAN and eth1 is LAN (connected to a switch .. )
[06:33] <silvaran> harisund: Well php-curl is the set of bindings for curl... curl strikes me as more of a library + cmdline tool than wget, so maybe that's it...
[06:33] <ataq> unfknblvbl: I have some bad setup at the moment aswel!
[06:33] <harisund> wastrel eth0 is set for DHCP from ISP .. eth1 is right now configured to static 192.168.10.1/24 ...
[06:34] <harisund> silvaran: yeah .. looks interesting .. will have a look ..
[06:34] <unfknblvbl> ataq: bad setup ?
[06:34] <harisund> wastrel: I have setup dnsmasq to act as a DHCP server on eth1, with a range from 192.168.10.100 to 192.168.10.150 ...
[06:34] <wastrel> harisund:  so you need to figure out how to get nat running
[06:34] <ataq> unfknblvbl: as in my linux setup!
[06:35] <harisund> wastrel: I know I have to setup something in the iptables NAT table .. something to do with PREROUTING and POSTROUTING table..
[06:35] <harisund> wastrel: you are right.
[06:35] <silvaran> harisund: dnsmasq ROCKS... it beats the heck out of dhcpd and bind.
[06:35] <harisund> silvaran: I agree. Too good, eh?
[06:35] <silvaran> harisund: Yeah.  For a simple local network, it's best bar none.
[06:35] <Newbuntu> where can someone paste stuff now? pastebin doesnt work
[06:35] <wastrel> harisund:  http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html  ?
[06:36] <silvaran> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <harisund> silvaran: I tried installing dhcpd. Couldn't figure out how to configure it, and ended up using gdhcpd (GTK tool to configure it) ...
[06:36] <harisund> wastrel: am checking out that site ... thanks :)
[06:36] <Newbuntu> thanks for the good pastebin address
[06:37] <harisund> wastrel: that tool uses webmin. Do you suggest I try using that?
[06:37] <NuclearWaffle> Bah, I installed the ATI drivers and my monitor still spazzes. Linux hates me.
[06:37] <harisund> wastrel: I don't mind a GUI .. but the point is, webmin is no longer supported under Ubuntu
[06:37] <harisund> !webmin
[06:37] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:37] <silvaran> harisund: I had it setting up fine, but then I wanted to set up a DNS server.  Then I discovere dnsmasq.  The big thing for me was the ability for clients to specify their own hostname and have dnsmasq integrate that hostname into its domain config.
[06:37] <unfknblvbl> ataq: u still lost me..
[06:37] <silvaran> !botsnack
[06:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:37] <silvaran> :)
[06:37] <Newbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23713   <---- thats menu.1st   I'm trying to get my ubuntu to boot properly, it only boots to a prompt
[06:37] <harisund> silvaran: yeah, /etc/dnsmasq is pretty well documented as well ..
[06:37] <harisund> Anybody here know a substitute for webmin ???
[06:38] <wastrel> harisund:  i dunno, never used webmin & didn't know its status in dapper...  :] 
[06:38] <NuclearWaffle> Anyone have any idea how to get my X to work properly?
[06:38] <[NP] Tangent> grrr... problems with OpenOffice... it won't start up
[06:38] <harisund> wastrel: thanks for that page though .. I miht end up using it after all ;( .. I think I chanced upon that site a long time back, and gave up after I realized webmin is not supported under Dapper .. I just wish somebody knows a substitute for Webmin
[06:38] <silvaran> Webmin strikes me as a catch-all for configuration.  Is there a replacement for dapper?
[06:39] <[NP] Tangent> I get the splash screen, but no editor
[06:39] <harisund> silvaran: I am really hoping someone answers your question :)
[06:39] <silvaran> harisund: Me too.  My fingers are getting tired editing raw configuration files.
[06:39] <tokenbad> if you use ftp ip port to get into a ftp..how would you get a whole dir?
[06:39] <harisund> tokenbad I believe you can use mget to downloading multiple files with a wlidcard ...
[06:40] <ataq> unfknblvbl: ah its nothing, I am just tired, nevermind! i am off to bed. talk to you again
[06:40] <harisund> tokenbad: but I do not know how to 'recursively' download folders... perhaps a GUI would be more helpful
[06:40] <silvaran> tokenbad: That's a weird question..... usually you'd use an FTP client, and hopefully it would support all the usual commands (ls, cd, etc...)
[06:40] <linux__alien> Ubuntu has an other theme which i saw in some website. It was blue in colour. could some one give me the link of that theme. i would like to install it
[06:40] <AlinuxOS> Ati or NVIDIA ? :) I'm choosing a Video Card for my PC :D
[06:40] <[NP] Tangent> alright, running it in the terminal throws out a TON of API errors
[06:40] <NuclearWaffle> NVIDIA.
[06:40] <NuclearWaffle> My ATI's giving me no end of trouble. :(
[06:41] <silvaran> linux__alien: You sure it was a stock theme?
[06:41] <AlinuxOS> NuclearWaffle, thanks
[06:41] <tokenbad> silvaran, a friend is setting up apache...but he can't ftp into the box and upload the files cause it has it setup wrong
[06:41] <ton>  i have this log invalid user wang from 64.169.167.212 but this does not map back to the address possible breaking attempt what does it mean ?
[06:41] <THX-1138> linux_alien gnomelook.org?
[06:41] <silvaran> tokenbad: Your friend might FTP into the box, but he needs access to the /var/www dir...  It's a basic UNIX permission problem, from the sounds of it.
[06:41] <unfknblvbl> PathagenX: can i change the write permissions on the resolv.conf file so that i don't have to keep editing the file ?
[06:42] <unfknblvbl> PathagenX: as in changing the file to read only ?
[06:42] <AlinuxOS> NuclearWaffle, maybe you could tell me which NVIDIA is better one for a moment ?
[06:42] <linux__alien> silvaran, yes i think instead of brown i saw it in Blue
[06:42] <NuclearWaffle> I have no idea. I just know not ATI. >.>
[06:42] <NuclearWaffle> Lol.
[06:42] <linux__alien> It was too good
[06:42] <AlinuxOS> not very expencive of course
[06:42] <fatejudger> does anyone know of an ubuntu package or repo for VMWare server?
[06:42] <harisund> Has anybody used Firestarter here?
[06:42] <NuclearWaffle> I'm still trying to get mine to work. >_O
[06:42] <AlinuxOS> just to have XGL compiz well.
[06:42] <silvaran> fatejudger: Best idea is to get vmware-server from vmware.com .
[06:42] <wastrel> tokenbad:  ncftp  is a better cli ftp client
[06:42] <fatejudger> that's a general script though
[06:42] <fatejudger> not a package
[06:43] <fatejudger> and it doesn't uninstall easily
[06:43] <ClayG> how do you close a screen in irssi, i know i can do it by /part'ing but what about a server notice, message,etc? Yes I know i can google it,but i rather type twice as much
[06:43] <silvaran> fatejudger: They update frequently, and even if dapper had support for it, it would be best to get it from the vendor.
[06:43] <fatejudger> silvaran: is there any way to package it up into a deb?
[06:43] <harisund> ClayG: /window close <nuber>
[06:43] <sn00p>  Does anybody know where the bittorrent executable is?
[06:43] <ClayG> thank you
[06:43] <ClayG> harisund:
[06:43] <Newbuntu>  harisund:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23713  was my menu.1st file
[06:43] <harisund> Newbuntu: opening..
[06:44] <Newbuntu> thanks in advance
[06:44] <harisund> Newbuntu: here are the things you would need to know.
[06:44] <silvaran> fatejudger: I wish there was.  Maybe in a few months.  For now, I specify /usr/local/???? for all the questions except for the startup script dirs (/etc and /etc/rc.d) and the desktop icons (/usr/share/applications, etc.)
[06:44] <harisund> Newbuntu: anything beginning with '#' is a comment, that s effectively ignored.
[06:44] <Newbuntu> okay
[06:44] <silvaran> fatejudger: vmware server being free is a recent idea.
[06:44] <harisund> Newbuntu: so you wlil just need to head towards the end of the file.
[06:44] <ClayG> hey harisund /wc too boss
[06:44] <unfknblvbl> QUESTION: is it possible to change the look of the buttons in firefox, e.g. changing the search button on the www.google.com webpage ?
[06:45] <ClayG> someone just pm'ed me that, i wanted to contribute if anyone is looking also
[06:45] <harisund> ClayG: /wc is merely an alias to /window close. It is probably setup by default in ~/.irssi/config
[06:45] <sn00p> wastred, huh?
[06:45] <Newbuntu> okay
[06:45] <harisund> sn00p: you can locate an executable by using 'which' or 'whereis'
[06:45] <ClayG> ahh hehe maybe thats why they didnt publically say it, like a man and tried to guinea pig me
[06:45] <wastrel> sn00p:  which <command>  gives you the location of the executable
[06:46] <sn00p> Wanderer, thanks
[06:46] <bur[n] er_> anyone have a vlc 0.8.5 .deb for dapper?
[06:46] <fatejudger> silvaran: recent as in several months
[06:46] <paradigm> GUYS i gotta a question (first time IRC)
[06:46] <Newbuntu> and put a # beside a bunch of them?
[06:46] <fatejudger> silvaran: it's not like it happened last week
[06:46] <harisund> Newbuntu: then. The set of lines beginning from 'title' to 'boot' are the lines f or each particular kernel
[06:46] <silvaran> I'm still waiting for my sparkly red shoes to arrive in the mail... Then I can put them on, click them together, and declare, "There's no place like home."  Then all will be peaceful in the world, Linux included :).
[06:46] <harisund> Newbuntu: identify the lines and put a '#' in front of them.
[06:46] <silvaran> fatejudger: Yeah I installed it just a couple of days ago.  Your best bet is to download the .tar.gz and install it with vmware-installl script.
[06:46] <harisund> that is put a '#' behind each of the lines beginning with 'title' 'root' 'kernel' 'initrd' 'savedefault' and 'boot' for the kernels you don't want.
[06:47] <harisund> Newbuntu: ^^
[06:47] <sn00p> wastrel, but I search for bittorrent it s ays /usr/share/bittorrent I go into that directory nothing is in there
[06:47] <Newbuntu> thx
[06:47] <Newbuntu> is there any lines that I dont put a # in front of?
[06:47] <silvaran> paradigm: Ask your question.  Hope someone answers.
[06:47] <harisund> Newbuntu: a better option would be to uninstall the kernels (thereby you would be saving some space)
[06:47] <kpin> we need a newbuntu release
[06:47] <harisund> lol kpin ..
[06:47] <kpin> true
[06:47] <silvaran> paradigm: You have my attention now so hurry up :).
[06:47] <paradigm> guys i have formatted my windows partition and it has deleted GRUB how can I re-install grub and have my ubuntu drive available
[06:47] <kpin> with xgl and compiz
[06:48] <harisund> Newbuntu: meaning?
[06:48] <fatejudger> silvaran: link?
[06:48] <paradigm> silvaran
[06:48] <silvaran> paradigm: Do you have a recovery CD you can use?
[06:48] <harisund> Newbuntu: hang on ..
[06:48] <wastrel> sn00p:  are you talking about the default bittorrent client that gnome uses?  that's gnome-btdownload  use   which gnome-btdownload  to find the executable
[06:48] <paradigm> i have the 6.06 LTS cd
[06:48] <Newbuntu> I was wondering how many of those entries I have to put a # in fornt of.
[06:48] <kpin> a new release with xgl and compiz compiled and installed, so when you install ubuntu compiz is there waiting to be clicked on
[06:48] <wastrel> !grub
[06:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:48] <silvaran> fatejudger: Just vmware.com.  Follow the VMWare Server links.  You need to register, but it's just to get a somewhat generic serial that the config script will understand.
[06:48] <eyequeue> paradigm, use the alternate cd and choose recovery
[06:49] <Newbuntu> all but one of the?
[06:49] <sn00p> wastrel, i cant find it
[06:49] <paradigm> alternative???
[06:49] <Newbuntu> them? or all of them?
[06:49] <unfknblvbl> !offtopic
[06:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:49] <silvaran> paradigm: You just recently installed Windows?
[06:49] <harisund> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23715 <-- Newbuntu
[06:49] <eyequeue> paradigm, there are three per architecture, livecd alternatecd and servercd
[06:49] <paradigm> yes
[06:49] <silvaran> Who's off topic?
[06:49] <wastrel> sn00p:  what does   which gnome-btdownload   give you?   and what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:49] <unfknblvbl> me
[06:49] <paradigm> silvaren YeS
[06:49] <Newbuntu> thanks very much
[06:49] <harisund> Newbuntu: have a look at that.. I have edited it so that it shows the latest kernel,the latest kernel recovery mode and memory check.
[06:49] <harisund> Newbuntu: get it?
[06:50] <sn00p> wastrel, lost my default bittorrent client when I open a torrent file in firefox
[06:50] <sn00p> so it opens bittorrent
[06:50] <manmadha> archive manager supports .rar formats?
[06:50] <linux__alien> silvaran, This is the theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=37099&file1=37099-1.jpg&file2=37099-2.jpg&file3=37099-3.jpg&name=Ubuntu_HumanAzul
[06:50] <Newbuntu> yes !!  and I'll teach that to others, spread the word
[06:50] <sn00p> wastrel, that command gives me nothing
[06:50] <manmadha> archive manager supports .rar formats?
[06:50] <silvaran> paradigm: Windows has this nasty habit of overwriting your MBR.  THe MBR (Master Boot Record) is what directs your computer to boot your operating system.  YOu'll need to boot from a recovery CD (Ubuntu) that can regenerate your boot record.
[06:50] <linux__alien> silvaran, Just have a look at it . Its too good
[06:50] <eyequeue> manmadha, if you install a rar tool as well
[06:50] <manmadha> eyequeue, how can u give me the link?
[06:50] <paradigm> what recovery CD
[06:50] <eyequeue> manmadha, link?
[06:50] <paradigm> does the ubuntu 6.06 have recovery
[06:50] <harisund> Newbuntu:Great! That .. and a couple of things. You can uninstall the kernels that you are not using. Next, you seem to be using a 386 kernel. Perhaps your machine can handle a 686 kernel?
[06:51] <cratuki> I've been trying to run serpentine. However, the app freezes when I go to make a burn
[06:51] <manmadha> eyequeue, rar tool
[06:51] <cratuki> I can't remote it from my tasklist even using kill -9
[06:51] <eyequeue> manmadha, a url you mean?
[06:51] <wastrel> sn00p:  are you in kubuntu?   afaik gnome-btdownload is installed by default in ubuntu.
[06:51] <silvaran> linux__alien: Channel is flooding in let me bookmark it and get back to you :)
[06:51] <cratuki> Any suggestions on how to kill it?
[06:51] <manmadha> eyequeue, ya
[06:51] <eyequeue> manmadha, we apt-get in ubuntu
[06:51] <sn00p> wastrel, i know I am in ubuntu
[06:51] <cratuki> (There are no messages in my logs indicating what the problem is, either :( )
[06:51] <eyequeue> !info unrar
[06:51] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:51] <eyequeue> !info unrar-free
[06:51] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[06:52] <wastrel> sn00p:  so  sudo aptitude install gnome-btdownload  maybe
[06:52] <silvaran> Anybody ?????? paradigm just installed Windows, he needs to replace his MBR with Grub so he can boot Linux... any ideas ???
[06:52] <sn00p> wastrel,  never mind found the problem
[06:52] <eyequeue> manmadha, do you have universe enabled yet?
[06:52] <fatejudger> silvaran: do you know whether I'll have to reinstall Windows under VMWare or whether I'll be able to run my existing Windows partition?
[06:52] <wastrel> yay
[06:52] <Newbuntu> I believe it can handle 686 kernel , but i'm a young jedi and have not learned the lesson of uninstalling kernels and reinstall new ones
[06:52] <harisund> Newbuntu: do you want to?
[06:52] <fatejudger> silvaran: live CD
[06:52] <eyequeue> !repos > manmadha
[06:52] <manmadha> eyequeue, i did nt get u....
[06:52] <sn00p> wastrel, the interface was uninstalled or something
[06:52] <Newbuntu> yes please
[06:52] <fatejudger> silvaran: there's a command to do it
[06:52] <harisund> Newbuntu: I could teach you, my young padawan :)
[06:52] <silvaran> fatejudger: With Windows, you'll need a fresh install under VMWare.  It's simply the way Windows works.
[06:52] <cratuki> Is there a cd burning program with a reputation for being reliable?
[06:52] <fatejudger> silvaran: that's what I figured...
[06:52] <sn00p> wastrel, thanks anyways :0
[06:52] <sn00p> :)
[06:52] <eyequeue> manmadha, the universe repository, follow the instructions the bot just gave you
[06:53] <Madpilot> cratuki, in Ubuntu? There are lots.
[06:53] <Newbuntu> should I keep commenting those menu.1st  entries or is that moot
[06:53] <fatejudger> silvaran: what's the advantage of using VMWare over something like Qemu then?
[06:53] <eyequeue> manmadha, then, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[06:53] <fatejudger> silvaran: aside from performance of course
[06:53] <harisund> Newbuntu: You mean after uninstalling the kernels?
[06:53] <philc> I installed subversion via apt-get, set up a repository, and can access it using svn+ssh://. How can I access it using just plain old svn:// (anonmyous access)? I get "connect refused" from my server
[06:53] <cratuki> Madpilot: Well - one that won't hang and leave unkillable processes in my process list? :)
[06:53] <manmadha> eyequeue, ohh ok thank u very much
[06:53] <Newbuntu> okay im all ears
[06:53] <THX-1138> fatejudger - QEMU is free and open source??
[06:53] <eyequeue> manmadha, no prob
[06:53] <silvaran> fatejudger: I dunno.  I prefer VMWare for the ease-of-use, but if you can get the same setup with qemu, with better performance, than go for it.
[06:53] <harisund> Newbuntu: ok let's begin here. Start by pasting the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo somewhree online.
[06:54] <bosco> is anyone running the christian version of ubuntu or know what the differences are from the reg ubuntu
[06:54] <Madpilot> cratuki, which one did that to you?
[06:54] <fatejudger> silvaran: I believe VMWare has better performance
[06:54] <fatejudger> silvaran: since it's at the kernel level
[06:54] <fatejudger> silvaran: rather than the user level
[06:54] <Madpilot> bosco, isn't that just standard Ubuntu + some Bible-search app?
[06:54] <cratuki> Madpilot: serpentine. which is scary because it appears to be a python app and I'd expect python to be solid
[06:54] <silvaran> fatejudger: For now :).  Wait for the hardware hypervisor support to take hold :)
[06:54] <THX-1138> christian Ubuntu? - Ubuntu is really catching on. :)
[06:54] <foo>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1242104#post1242104 - I
[06:54] <foo>           am trying to install gnucash 2 ... I get some dependency errors
[06:54] <foo>           trying to install with dpkg -i .. can I install with apt-get or
[06:54] <foo> errr
[06:54] <Madpilot> cratuki, odd, I've used Serp a fair bit and never had any issues with it
[06:54] <foo> my bad.
[06:54] <VHockey86> philc: do you have the subversion port forwarded? Did you startup svnserve?
[06:54] <cratuki> Madpilot: Maybe I have kernel problems accessing my cdw but - you'd think (1) it would work as it's a simple mitsubishi unit off a genuine intel mb
[06:55] <silvaran> Yeah holy crapoly Christian?  I had no idea........
[06:55] <harisund> THX-1138: you didn't know that? yeah .. there's a Christian edition that installs some bible related softawre by default :)
[06:55] <eyequeue> !language
[06:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:55] <Newbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23716
[06:55] <silvaran> harisund: You're kidding right?
[06:55] <bosco> Madpilot, i think so that just curios
[06:55] <THX-1138> harisund - cool
[06:55] <harisund> silvaran: of course not ..
[06:55] <silvaran> eyequeue: You mean me?
[06:55] <cratuki> madpilot: .. and (2) I haven't done anything strange to my kernel
[06:55] <eyequeue> silvaran, yes
[06:55] <Nameless12> Can someone tell me if it is possible to have it so my ubuntu-server (that has no window manager) can run a remote desktop so i can login and view the remote desktop but in a way that leaves the server in the terminal\bash thing?? If so can someone tell me how (i would prefer to do this with something like fluxbox also if possible due to its small size
[06:55] <philc> VHockey86: the port is open. I did not startup svnserve. Does svn work because svn+ssh:// actually logs into the server and runs commands, instead of contacting a daemon?
[06:55] <silvaran> eyequeue: Uh, sorry.  I guess my threshold needs some conservative tweaking.
[06:55] <cratuki> Madpilot: And there are no error messages I can find. The app just hangs.
[06:55] <eyequeue> silvaran, heh
[06:56] <harisund> Nameless12: you can run something called NX
[06:56] <Madpilot> cratuki, I'm not sure what to suggest, beyond searching bugs.ubuntu.com for something like your issue - and if you don't find anything, file a bug yourself, w/ as much detail as you can find
[06:56] <VHockey86> philc: not sure...I've never tried doing checkouts or commits without it running - was just a suggestion
[06:56] <cratuki> Madpilot: thanks
[06:56] <silvaran> Oh, NX... I wish it wasn't such a pain to set up.  It's not available in the standard dapper channels.
[06:56] <philc> VHockey86: thanks for the tip. I'll check into it
[06:56] <harisund> THX-1138: silvaran: http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html
[06:56] <Nameless12> harisund, ill google that now but do u know the name of the file for apt-get ?
[06:56] <harisund> silvaran: I had no problems setting up Dapper?
[06:57] <harisund> Nameless12: you will have to add a repository (Seveas' I think .. ) to your sources..
[06:57] <harisund> silvaran: I mean setting up NX on dapper..
[06:57] <Madpilot> harisund, is that the same Christian Ubuntu project that had it's IRC channel here on Freenode shut down because the ops were being abusive?
[06:57] <THX-1138> nice link - I'll be sure to pass it on.
[06:57] <silvaran> harisund: You mean NX with dapper?  I needed an external repo to get the packages...
[06:57] <inglor> hey, what program would I use to snap shots in my logitech webcam?
  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23716  in case you missed it
[06:57] <inglor> *with
[06:57] <harisund> Madpilot: oh.. about that I do not know . I just know there's a Christian edition because I read the Ubuntu Planet blogs..
[06:58] <harisund> Newbuntu: sorry. I did miss it.. thanks ..
[06:58] <paradigm> silvaren:
[06:58] <paradigm> its not working SILVAREN
[06:58] <field> Anybody installed win4lin pro in dapper?
[06:58] <harisund> silvaran: yes, You have to add Seveas' repo to Dapper to get FreeNX ..
[06:58] <Madpilot> harisund, I think there's more than one, actually. The one I saw on planet.ubuntu.com was "Ichthux" or something like that
[06:58] <silvaran> paradigm: Of course it's not working, I haven't told you what to do!! Mainly because I don't know what to do... :)
[06:58] <inglor> would camorama work for me?
[06:58] <field> In this kernel
[06:58] <field> 2.6.15-26-386
[06:58] <harisund> Madpilot: oh yeah ichthux.. this isn't that then?
[06:58] <silvaran> harisund: OK, it's been awhile... sec
[06:58] <harisund> Newbuntu: hang on ..
[06:59] <paradigm> silvaren: what do I do then ?
[06:59] <Milktea> How do I make a 'shortcut'?
[06:59] <eyequeue> Milktea, what does that mean?
[06:59] <kholerabbi> anyone know how to edit track info (like title, artist etc..) in rhythmbox??
[06:59] <Milktea> like
[06:59] <silvaran> paradigm: OK.... can you boot off your Live CD?
[06:59] <Milktea> click on 1 folder
[06:59] <inglor> right click->create launcher
[06:59] <Milktea> and it redirects to another
[06:59] <paradigm> silvaren: YES
[06:59] <eyequeue> Milktea, ah, a symlink
[06:59] <Milktea> yeah
[07:00] <eyequeue> Milktea, ln -s foo bar
[07:00] <kholerabbi> Milktea: right-click, make shortcut
[07:00] <inglor> Milktea, right click-> create launcher
[07:00] <silvaran> harisund: My apt.sources: deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ breezy-seveas freenx
[07:00] <Milktea> it wont let me
[07:00] <inglor> am I even heard in this chat?
[07:00] <tokenbad> ok here is a question...a friend has url setup for a website..and has installed apache...how does he get his site on apache to use the url he has?
[07:00] <paradigm> silvaren: 6.06 edition
[07:00] <kholerabbi> *make link
[07:00] <Milktea> its greyed out
[07:00] <inglor> you can't just make a link anywhere
[07:00] <silvaran> inglor: Have patience :)
[07:00] <eyequeue> inglor, no idea what camorama is
[07:00] <THX-1138> !lamp
[07:00] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:00] <harisund> Newbuntu: that's awesome.
[07:00] <inglor> oh lol, I thought something was wrong with the irc :P
[07:00] <adamant1988> hello all.
[07:00] <Newbuntu> haha thats cool
[07:00] <inglor> it's greyed out because you don't have permission to do that
[07:00] <adamant1988> I'm having a really weird problem with installing the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[07:01] <inglor> you need to sudo it
[07:01] <harisund> Newbuntu: I believe your computer can perform way better with a 686 optimized kernel.
[07:01] <Madpilot> harisund, not sure. I just remember the trouble w/ #ubuntu-christian a while back
[07:01] <THX-1138> http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 - Apache + Webmail + User space terminals
[07:01] <silvaran> paradigm: That's good... I wish things could be easier... see, the last time I installed Windows, and it messed up (eyequeue, see, I didn't use the F-word even though I wanted to) my MBR, I fixed it on the Linux command line....
[07:01] <Newbuntu> thanks , I was always wondering
[07:01] <harisund> Newbuntu: let's begin by installing a new kernel. Begin by installing 'sudo apt-get install linux-686'
[07:01] <adamant1988> I ran "sudo aptitude -f install kubuntu-desktop"  BUT I was given this error. The following packages have unmet dependencies: language-selector-qt: Depends: language-selector-common (= 0.1.20) but 0.1.20.1 is installed.
[07:01] <eyequeue> silvaran, lol
[07:01] <harisund> Madpilot: I see.. ok ..
[07:01] <Milktea> ln -s works great
[07:01] <Milktea> thanks
[07:01] <inglor> I apt-getted camorama
[07:02] <inglor> worked like a charm
[07:02] <adamant1988> and therefor it downloaded a lot of files and then didn't install them.
[07:02] <inglor> in case anyone asks in the future
[07:02] <Newbuntu> darn I love apt-get
[07:02] <inglor> it has color correction too :)
[07:02] <paradigm> silvaren: so what can I do im pretty new
[07:02] <silvaran> paradigm: That's why I asked for help from everyone else.... was your Ubuntu installation working fine before you reinstalled Windows?
[07:03] <Newbuntu> harisund asid some things couldnt be fetched
[07:03] <eyequeue> Milktea, no prob
[07:03] <THX-1138> I would recommend *NOT* setting up DNS bind. - it is filled with pitfalls
[07:03] <harisund> Newbuntu: only caveat. Since we are installing a new kernel, you would have probably to reboot. And I am told a 686 kernel definitely enhances performance compared to a 386 kernel. However don't scold me if you don't see a noticable difference, atleast not immediately :)
[07:03] <paradigm> silvaren: YES
[07:03] <harisund> Newbuntu: uh oh .. that shouldn't happen. Did you run both 'apt-get update && apt-get install linux-686'
[07:03] <Newbuntu> okay so should I reboot?
[07:03] <VHockey86> adamant1988: try uninstalling the new version... assuming other packages dont depend on that newer version you'd be ok
[07:03] <paradigm> silvaren: I dont want to re-install ubuntu
[07:03] <paradigm> silvaren: COS ATI was helll to  install??
[07:03] <harisund> Newbuntu: no. Not untill linux-686 is properly installed ..
[07:03] <Newbuntu> okay its going 50 %
[07:03] <silvaran> paradigm: You shouldn't have to reinstall ubuntu.
[07:04] <silvaran> paradigm: Assuming I'm smart enough to figure out how not to :)
[07:04] <paradigm> silvaren: I know, do you  know what to do?
[07:04] <harisund> Newbuntu: yes. Go ahead and run 'apt-get update && apt-get install linux-686' to its entire completion.
[07:04] <adamant1988> VHockey86: ok.. let me see what that would remove
[07:04] <linux__alien> is it Possible to upgrade Gnome to 2.16 in Ubuntu ?. If so how?
[07:04] <harisund> Newbuntu: a kernel is a big package. So you will have to be a bit patient.
[07:04] <inglor> wow, so cool, see what I got with camorama, one sec, I'll upload it
[07:04] <eyequeue> linux__alien, not advised, but edgy
[07:04] <Newbuntu> apt-thanks
[07:04] <emo> if I've a script with sh extention how shall I run it ?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever,sh
[07:04] <Newbuntu> dapper is the shizza
[07:05] <eyequeue> emo, bash foo.sh
[07:05] <harisund> Newbuntu: apt-you-are-welcome. Do you know apt comes with cow powers ???
[07:05] <paradigm> silvaren: cant be smart, when im ignorant of the task/
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> emo,  or chmod +x it, then ./whatever.sh
[07:05] <linux__alien> eyequeue, why? in that case if i want to use Gnome 2.16 i ve to switch to Edy is i ? :-(
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> the extension means NOTHING. :P
[07:05] <silvaran> paradigm: Welll the general idea is to (1) Boot an Ubuntu disc (preverably the recovery CD) (2) drop to a shell, "su" to root, (3) run grub-install /dev/hda, and then reboot.......
[07:05] <eyequeue> !edgy > linux__alien
[07:05] <THX-1138> chmod +x it or right click on it and change permisions to executable then  sh <your file> or click and select run
[07:05] <harisund> Somebody should teach ubotu about apt's super cow powers.
[07:05] <paradigm> silvaren: what recovery CD
[07:05] <jesus> !edgy
[07:05] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:06] <linux__alien> !edgy > linux__alien
[07:06] <paradigm> silvaren: only have the CD that came from ubuntu mail
[07:06] <emo> Dr_Willis: cool cheers man
[07:06] <inglor> one moment, this is so cool :)
[07:06] <harisund> THX-1138: if you are going to invoke the script using 'sh script' then you don't need to +x the file.
[07:06] <silvaran> Geesh, does Ubuntu even have a recover disc?
[07:06] <silvaran> paradigm: Try the Live CD
[07:06] <paradigm> silvaren: oh
[07:06] <paradigm> cool
[07:06] <paradigm> silvarenlol
[07:06] <inglor> and linux picked the webcam right up, unlike windows, that a boy
[07:06] <harisund> silvaran: Well.. the alternate CD of Ubuntu Dapper can act as a recovery CD I think.
[07:06] <silvaran> paradigm: Or even the recovery CD... does it have a "boot from hard disk" or some kind of thing?
[07:06] <eyequeue> silvaran, the alternative cd is best
[07:06] <THX-1138> harisund - Okay. good to know. Thanks
[07:06] <paradigm> silvaren yes
[07:06] <inglor> although it is (and always was) a REALLY BAD webcam
[07:07] <harisund> THX-1138: if you have +x to a file, you could do '/path/script' instead of 'sh /path/script'
[07:07] <inglor> http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5521/webcam1158469466yq9.png check it out hehe
[07:07] <silvaran> eyequeue: OK, but can this stuff be fixed with the installation CD or live CD?  Just fixing the MBR to install grub and boot both his OSes?
[07:07] <kholerabbi> inglor: my webcam was picked up to, and windows didn't :P, crap webcammy though
[07:07] <sontek> whats your guys favorite torrent client? I'm getting sick of azureus
[07:07] <inglor> kholerabbi: yeah, I love how linux picks up stuff like that
[07:07] <kholerabbi> :)
[07:08] <harisund> that's one sweet pic inglor
[07:08] <kholerabbi> sontek: get ktorrent
[07:08] <eyequeue> silvaran, it has all that live stuff cluttering it up, i don't think there is room
[07:08] <silvaran> paradigm: OK... so if the installation CD lets you boot into your Ubuntu installation, go ahead and do that, and try "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from a Terminal
[07:08] <sontek> and what package does smbmount come in?  I have samba
[07:08] <wizard1> has anyone noticed 6.06 and firefox freezing the pc?
[07:08] <paradigm> silvaren cool thanks
[07:08] <THX-1138> sontek utorrent in a windows vmware session - torrentclients are treachery. - lol
[07:08] <silvaran> eyequeue: That's okay, we just need to fix the guy's MBR that Windows mucked up :(
[07:08] <harisund> sontek: smbmount is a part of the samba package.
[07:08] <silvaran> paradigm: Don't say "cool" yet until it works :)
[07:08] <inglor> ok, now how do I add a camorama shortcut in my application menu?
[07:08] <harisund> sontek: uh wait.. I thikn it is a part of smbfs
[07:08] <paradigm> silvaren lol
[07:09] <paradigm> silvaren do u want me to try it now
[07:09] <silvaran> paradigm: Yeah go ahead....
[07:09] <eyequeue> silvaran, the alternative cd has a "install grub to" option, under recovery :)
[07:09] <paradigm> silvaren here goes nothing
[07:09] <kholerabbi> inglor: it should be in the "graphics" menu
[07:09] <teckfatt> hello, any one know which software can use to create video CD(VCD), like Serpentine is used to create audio CD, tz
[07:09] <inglor> it is, nice :) cool
[07:09] <paradigm> silvaren there is no option of recovery
[07:09] <linux__alien> Cool I ve changed Ubuntu's Look and feel to blue from brown. Its too good :-)
[07:09] <manmadha> how to modify the source list .......i could not find a package in chache....
[07:10] <emo> /home/emerson/.GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[07:10] <silvaran> eyequeue: Ahh, that's good to know...... see I'd rather a grub-install that doesn't involve him downloading and burning another CD image, but beggers can't be choosers :)
[07:10] <eyequeue> paradigm, the alternative cd has that, i don't think live cd has room
[07:10] <inglor> manmadha: you want to modify your source list?
[07:10] <paradigm> silvaren dams
[07:10] <silvaran> paradigm: Is there a "boot from first hard disk" kind of option?
[07:10] <manmadha> inglor, yaaa
[07:10] <paradigm> silvaren yes
[07:10] <kholerabbi> inglor: if oyu do need to add somehting to the app menu right click it an seelct "edit menus" or go accessories>alacarte menu editor
[07:10] <eyequeue> manmadha, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:10] <nu> XD
[07:10] <inglor> manmadha, you just change /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:10] <manmadha> eyequeue, 1m
[07:11] <silvaran> paradigm: Try that, and then try to (1) drop to a terminal, (2) log in as root (via "su") (3), try grub-install /dev/hda
[07:11] <nu> hellow again eyequeue
[07:11] <eyequeue> hi nu
[07:11] <paradigm> silvaren alright
[07:11] <inglor> manmadha, make sure you have sources with access to universe, that way you can access WAY more stuff
[07:11] <silvaran> paradigm: IS this the same machine you're using to talk on IRC, or a different machine?
[07:11] <eyequeue> inglor, that was the idea, he wanted unrar-free
[07:12] <harisund> has anybody used tcpdump here? It's so fast scrolling I can't even get to figure out what exactly is going on :D
[07:12] <inglor> eyequeue, ok, didn't know :) I'm new to the convo
[07:12] <silvaran> harisund: Have you tried ethereal?
[07:12] <harisund> silvaran: uh... :)
[07:12] <eyequeue> inglor, no prob, thought i would catch you up :)
[07:12] <harisund> silvaran: trying out...
[07:12] <manmadha> inglor, yaa......i saw once (to add security,.....etc at one just by clicking add.......)
[07:13] <silvaran> harisund: It's essentially a GUI interface to tcpdump, but maybe that's an oversimplification.... I'd recommend trying ethereal before tcpdump.
[07:13] <linux__alien> has anyone changed Ubuntu's theme from brown to Blue ?
[07:13] <manmadha> inglor, but now i forgot it
[07:13] <linux__alien> :-)
[07:13] <fmasi> helo i was trying to aply Andrew Morton's -mm Kernel patch for 2.6.17-mm6 in kernel linux-2.6.17.13 but i got the folowing message: patching file usr/Makefile
[07:13] <fmasi> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]  Apply anyway? [n] 
[07:13] <shaigar> damnit this sucks
[07:13] <jesus> !edgy
[07:13] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:13] <linux__alien> silvaran, i ve changed it to blue its too good
[07:13] <fmasi> what sould i do ? its my first time patching
[07:14] <eyequeue> fmasi, man patch, -R is to reverse it
[07:14] <silvaran> linux__alien: I'm using NuvoOS or something like that, I love it...
[07:14] <shaigar> i have one of the best strategic minds i've met yet, my army is one of the best armies available. noone has beaten me in months, even in 3 against 1. but their armies are all better painted and look cool :(
[07:14] <fmasi> eyequeue, what exacly will be reverse it ?
[07:14] <manmadha> inglor, yaa cot
[07:14] <silvaran> fmasi: So why do you think you need the Morton patch to your kernel?
[07:14] <manmadha> inglor, yaa got it
[07:14] <inglor> nice :)
[07:14] <eyequeue> fmasi, somewhat like unpatching
[07:15] <fmasi> SiliconViper, i going to test the letest reiserfs4 suport and i red that mm patch is god for reiser4
[07:15] <inglor> ooh, I have another weird but I just remembered
[07:15] <SiliconViper> fmasi, hmm?
[07:15] <linux__alien> silvaran, Do u have the desktop snapshot?
[07:15] <SiliconViper> Heya stars.
[07:15] <fmasi> SiliconViper, sory rong tab completition
[07:15] <SiliconViper> Ah.
[07:15] <SiliconViper> I know how that is.
[07:15] <silvaran> linux__alien: You mean the default dapper install, or the link you sent?
[07:16] <manmadha> inglor, we have to go synaptic-settings-resipro....
[07:16] <inglor> in open office, the font size, face and heading are all white for some reason, I can still set them, but I can't see the current ones, what might cause that?
[07:16] <fmasi> silvaran, , i going to test the letest reiserfs4 suport and i red that mm patch is god for reiser4
[07:16] <manmadha> inglor, thank u
[07:16] <Milktea> re
[07:16] <inglor> np
[07:16] <Milktea> er
[07:16] <eyequeue> btw, any heavy duty math geeks might enjoy #ubuntu-offtopic right about now :)
[07:16] <Milktea> when I sudo chmod /var/www/sda1
[07:16] <Milktea> to 77
[07:16] <Milktea> er
[07:16] <Milktea> 777
[07:16] <Milktea> its not changing anything
[07:16] <Milktea> o.0
[07:16] <linux__alien> silvaran, the link i sent
[07:16] <silvaran> linux__alien: I don't have access to a dapper machine right now, only at work (my laptop isn't "good" enough to run dapper :).
[07:16] <starscalling> anyone use xmms to play vid files?
[07:16] <jason> can someone give me an invite to #xchat  ..?
[07:16] <starscalling> with the xmms-mplayer plugin or whtever?
[07:16] <silvaran> linux__alien: Yeah... doesn't look particularly intriguing.
[07:16] <eyequeue> Milktea, 777 is very unsafe, probably good
[07:16] <Milktea> well
[07:16] <Milktea> I'm trying to get 757
[07:17] <Milktea> but its not changing anything
[07:17] <inglor>  in open office, the font size, face and heading are all white for some reason, I can still set them, but I can't see the current ones, what might cause that?
[07:17] <eyequeue> Milktea, xx7 is very unsafe, probably good
[07:17] <silvaran> fmasi: As much as I'd love to try out reiser4, I would wait a little while......
[07:17] <Milktea> i tried 755
[07:17] <jason> hello
[07:17] <inglor> hey
[07:17] <eyequeue> Milktea, but sudo should allow it, unlless you mounted var with nonstandard options?
[07:17] <Milktea> dont think so
[07:17] <fmasi> silvaran, i am not very entusiast about it too i ges its still to knew
[07:17] <eyequeue> Milktea, grep var /etc/fstab to check
[07:17] <jason> inglor: can you give me an invite to #xchat
[07:18] <inglor> I don't think I have one
[07:18] <red|rain> Hey everyone ^_^ does anyone know how to get aterm to appear on the "top-right" of my screen when I open it?
[07:18] <silvaran> fmasi: Well "new" is somewhat objective.... when it comes to kernel stuff (like filesystems, and thus reiser4), things have to be quite stable before they're accepted.
[07:18] <Milktea> eyequeue,  nothing happens
[07:18] <inglor> asking again, in open office, the font size, face and heading are all white for some reason, I can still set them, but I can't see the current ones, what might cause that?
[07:18] <silvaran> fmasi: I know I ran it when it was semi-beta, and got burned..... :(
[07:18] <jason> inglor: can you get in there tonight...? i can't , it say "invite only" now for some reason..
[07:18] <eyequeue> Milktea, grep var /etc/fstab   returns null??
[07:19] <eyequeue> Milktea, you probably don't have a /var partition then
[07:19] <Milktea> root@brandon-laptop:/var/www# grep var /etc/fstab
[07:19] <Milktea> root@brandon-laptop:/var/www#
[07:19] <fmasi> silvaran, what sould i do whith the message : Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
[07:19] <slid3r> any one know why Eterm (and aterm) spit this error when started? :: Eterm:  Warning:  Unable to resolve "white" as a color name.
[07:19] <Milktea> im su
[07:19] <czer323>   When the computer turns on, it makes a log file with all the things taht start, right?  Where is that log kept?  I can't find a /var/log/boot.log... That's what I thought it should be. Any clues?
[07:19] <fmasi> silvaran, so you thing i sould stay whith XFS or ext3
[07:19] <eyequeue> Milktea, did ou only install one partition?  of so, it would be the options of /, which i rather doubt would be read only, heh
[07:19] <silvaran> fmasi: Personally, I run reiserfs (implicitly, the version is 3.6).
[07:20] <Milktea> yeah only 1 partition
[07:20] <silvaran> fmasi: It's been "stable" for me for at least 2 years.
[07:20] <silvaran> fmasi: But the generally accepted filesystem has been ext3 for awhile.
[07:20] <Milktea> root is drwxr-xr-x
[07:20] <eyequeue> Milktea, so much for that reason that sudo didn't change it
[07:20] <inglor> czer323, try /var/log/kern.log.0
[07:20] <inglor> it has most of the information
[07:20] <fmasi> silvaran, i had seen some good text about XFS what do you think of it
[07:20] <eyequeue> Milktea, and the dir in question?
[07:20] <Milktea> ./var/www/sda1
[07:20] <eyequeue> Milktea, perms?
[07:21] <starscalling> xmms-xmmplayer
[07:21] <Milktea> er
[07:21] <starscalling> that plugin
[07:21] <czer323> Just found what I was looking for.  The answer was dmesg.log.  Thanks anyway!
[07:21] <starscalling> anyone use it?
[07:21] <Milktea> Fill me in, I'm a bit new to linux
[07:21] <Milktea> what's a perm
[07:21] <fmasi> silvaran, i am whith ext3 for the lest 3 years now and like to try some new stuff
[07:21] <eyequeue> Milktea, permissions, that thing you pasted about /
[07:21] <silvaran> fmasi: Haven't used it personally, but I have heard good things about it as well.  Go ahead and use it.  But DON'T patch your kernel just to get the "latest and greatest" filesystem.
[07:21] <Milktea> oh
[07:21] <jason> anybody able to get in xchat tonight...?
[07:21] <eyequeue> jason, i'm in xchat
[07:21] <Milktea> lrwxrwx---
[07:22] <fmasi> silvaran, ok thx for the tips going to stik whit 2.6.17-13
[07:22] <eyequeue> Milktea, it's a symlink?  to what "real" directory?
[07:22] <jason> eyequeue:   chatjunkies....??
[07:22] <silvaran> fmasi: Trying new stuff is fine, but when you get into kernels, you're dealing with the core software running on your computer.  And thus, any experimental stuff (like reiser4, unfortunately) is going to be far more devastating to you if/when it fails.
[07:22] <Milktea> ,/media/sda1
[07:22] <Milktea> but that isn't affected by chmod either..
[07:22] <silvaran> fmasi: Good call... :)
[07:22] <eyequeue> jason, i'm in the app xchat, on freenode only
[07:22] <fmasi> silvaran, is ther enny good patch hat is whorth a try ?
[07:22] <eyequeue> Milktea, what are the perms for that dir?
[07:23] <Milktea> same
[07:23] <fmasi> silvaran, like distro patches or some thing
[07:23] <eyequeue> Milktea, the thing is, you are crossing partitions there
[07:23] <Milktea> d instead of l
[07:23] <Milktea> oh :/
[07:23] <chaos_> how do i create "shortcuts" to mounts on my "Desktop" and/or "Computer" in gnome?
[07:23] <Milktea> i want to have this partition
[07:23] <Milktea> to be able to be read
[07:23] <Milktea> from apache
[07:23] <inglor> asking again, in open office, the font size, face and heading are all white for some reason, I can still set them, but I can't see the current ones, what might cause that?
[07:23] <eyequeue> !partition
[07:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:24] <eyequeue> !mount
[07:24] <nu> ugh
[07:24] <silvaran> fmasi: Welll no... see, when you grab a distro (like Ubuntu), they've taken the core "vanilla" kernel and applied their own patches.  So when you talk "kernel patches," you're talking low-level changes to the core software that your computer is running.  That will most likely conflict with the patches your distribution applies.
[07:24] <nu> iDesk won't work for me
[07:24] <eyequeue> Milktea, there's some factoid in the bot about making partitions/"drives" read-write, but i can't recall it offhand
[07:25] <Milktea> mmm
[07:25] <nu> You know how synpatic also shows packages not supported by ubuntu?
[07:25] <Milktea> i just want the webserver
[07:25] <Milktea> to be able tor ead
[07:25] <Milktea> sda1
[07:25] <Milktea> ):
[07:25] <nu> =)
[07:25] <fmasi> silvaran, but i was going to compile the 2.6.17-13 myself so ther will not be the ubuntu patches on it. should i patch it
[07:25] <silvaran> fmasi: So you need to balance your desire to run patches with the safety of running "officially released" software....
[07:25] <fmasi> silvaran, what patches ubuntu use ?
[07:26] <silvaran> fmasi: Only if you think the patches provide something you're missing.
[07:26] <eyequeue> Milktea, i'm sure it will involve editing /etc/fstab, but i can't tell you offhand what
[07:26] <silvaran> fmasi: From my experience the ubuntu patches are mainly backports of fixes between 2.6.15 and 2.6.17.
[07:26] <paradigm> silvaran: NOT WORKING
[07:26] <fmasi> silvaran, the only thing i know i realy nead is the 2.6-17 branch becouse of my sata2
[07:26] <silvaran> paradigm: How so?  Error messages or anything?
[07:27] <paradigm> silvaren: it says that the drive wasnt found
[07:27] <fmasi> silvaran, aa ok thx for the tips that makes sence to me sinse ubuntu dont use the 2.6-17
[07:27] <paradigm> silvaren: in /boot or something
[07:28] <silvaran> fmasi: Well I'm not an expert on Ubuntu's kernel... but the Ubuntu kernel does contain __some__ of the patches between 15 and 17..... that's all I can say though.
[07:28] <silvaran> paradigm: Where does it say this?  When you type the grub-install command line, or during boot??
[07:28] <eyequeue> silvaran, fmasi, if needed, #ubuntu-kernel may know more, it exists :)
[07:28] <paradigm> silvaren: when I sudo grub-install
[07:28] <fmasi> eyequeue, thx
[07:28] <eyequeue> fmasi, sure
[07:29] <fmasi> silvaran, thx for all the tips it was just about what i neaded to know to make my mind
[07:29] <silvaran> eyequeue: I tried the edgy kernel.  The only difference it made for me (with an nVidia 570 chipset) was a clearer error message that told me to pass "noapic" as a kernel parameter :)
[07:29] <eyequeue> silvaran, heh
[07:30] <inglor> great, tried burning a cd with ubuntu, all very user friendly and nifty, worked like a charm
[07:30] <paradigm> silvaren: any ideas
[07:30] <silvaran> fmasi: That's cool.. As long as you know that nothing about this stuff is cut-and-dry.  You're always going to have problems with the latest and (supposedly) greatest hardware :)
[07:30] <silvaran> paradigm: Gimme a sec :)
[07:30] <paradigm> silvaren: cool
[07:30] <inglor> now a much scarier task
[07:31] <paradigm> silvaren: cant i use the recovery disk for 5.10
[07:31] <inglor> plugging in my iPod
[07:31] <paradigm> silvaren: cos I got that
[07:31] <silvaran> paradigm: Well 5.10 was the previous release... so what version did you install, exactly, on your HD?
[07:31] <fmasi> silvaran, normaly i dont use lates releas kernel but my sata2 controler is only suported by 2.6-17 an up
[07:31] <surgy> anyone know the comand to make dvd author burn an mpeg2 into a svcd ?
[07:31] <paradigm> silvaren: 6.06, but isnt it only grub we are interested in
[07:31] <inglor> surgy, what do you mean?
[07:32] <eyequeue> !info grub dapper
[07:32] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[07:32] <eyequeue> !info grub breezy
[07:32] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.95+cvs20040624-17ubuntu7 (breezy), package size 347 kB, installed size 744 kB
[07:32] <inglor> woah
[07:32] <inglor> all I get when I hook my iPod is a battery sign
[07:32] <silvaran> fmasi: Well, see, I thought that too..... so I tried the Edgy release of the kernel... but it gave me an error message that suggested "noapic" on the command line. So I tried that, and it worked on the 2.6.15 release, and it worked!.... :)
[07:32] <inglor> that might be because it's battery is all out and is at %0
[07:32] <inglor> so it might not be ubuntu's fault
[07:33] <silvaran> paradigm: Well yeah, we're interested in grub to a certain extent, but it would be ideal if you had the latest Ubuntu version to boot off of, to fix your boot problem..
[07:33] <bosco> where do i go to edit my start up script so i can take stuff out that i dont want to start on startuup
[07:33] <eyequeue> inglor, curious, how long does the battery typically last?
[07:33] <paradigm> silvaren: hmm, yeah any other options then?
[07:33] <silvaran> paradigm: So what disc do you have, exactly, to boot from on your computer?
[07:33] <eyequeue> bosco, man update-rc.d
[07:34] <eyequeue> bosco, you run a command, not edit anything
[07:34] <bosco> eyequeue, thanks
[07:34] <paradigm> silvaren: 6.06 LTS X86
[07:34] <eyequeue> bosco, no prob
[07:34] <ynef> bosco: "sudo services-admin" is a good start
[07:34] <bosco> ok
[07:34] <silvaran> paradigm: OK, not sure if you responded to my question.... are you talking to me on the same computer you're having problems with??
[07:34] <paradigm> silvaren: yes
[07:34] <paradigm> silvaren:in windows
[07:34] <surgy> inglo you there?
[07:35] <silvaran> paradigm: Ouch.... that stinks :)
[07:35] <surgy> sorry about that xchat crashed
[07:35] <silvaran> paradigm: OK hang on.... let me try something
[07:35] <paradigm> silvaren::<
[07:35] <lely_mutz> hi....
[07:36] <surgy> anyway i converted my avi to an mpeg2 and now i want to burn my mpeg2 as an svcd ......
[07:36] <ynef> bosco: however, that won't rip out everything you might want. Do you understand bash scripts? If so, you can look at the faster-dapper script (google it), at least the relevant part where it rips out services for things such as bluetooth, RAID etc (don't disable stuff you need, though!)
[07:36] <silvaran> paradigm: Ahhh shooters... I can't access the machine I thought I could play around with...
[07:36] <wizard1> has anyone noticed 6.06 and firefox freezing the pc? can move mouse but have to cold reboot
[07:36] <paradigm> silvaren: crap1
[07:36] <silvaran> paradigm: So the last time you tried running grub-install, what was the error message?
[07:36] <bosco> ynef, that is the plan i dont use blue tooth hp linux printing system
[07:36] <KyoLptp`> Uhhh... compiz broke after today's updates.
[07:36] <paradigm> silvaren: dirve not found
[07:37] <ynef> bosco: how about LVM and RAID? :-)
[07:37] <paradigm> silvaren: so i tried hda1
[07:37] <silvaran> paradigm: No no, we're passed crap1... the number appended to crap is no longer a real number...
[07:37] <paradigm> silvaren:same problem
[07:37] <bosco> ynef, no none of that as well
[07:37] <eyequeue> KyoLptp`, #ubuntu-xgl for that
[07:37] <paradigm> silvaren:lol
[07:37] <KyoLptp`> yeah, I just rememberd
[07:37] <silvaran> paradigm: Nah, "grub-install /dev/hda" is the only thing that would work...
[07:37] <KyoLptp`> remembered*
[07:37] <paradigm> silvaren: dams
[07:37] <wastrel> wizard1:  did you try killing X when it froze?  ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:37] <paradigm> silvaren: cos the thing is not mounted
[07:37] <paradigm> silvaren: and fails to mount as well
[07:38] <ynef> wizard1: I have the opposite problem (but not sure it's connected to firefox), where the mouse is dead, but I can use the keyboard :-)
[07:38] <wizard1> wastrel:  yes tried that no response.... :(
[07:38] <wastrel> nifty
[07:38] <wizard1> haha!
[07:38] <paradigm> silvaren:such a small problem yet a big headache
[07:38] <Jason> can anyone here get in #xchat on http://www.chatjunkies.org..? , i don't work for me....
[07:38] <eyequeue> ynef, and sometimes i get both locked up, heh, :/
[07:38] <silvaran> paradigm: Well with Grub, it doesn't need to be mounted... when you say /dev/hda, you're essentially telling grub, "Install to my first IDE drive"
[07:38] <eyequeue> Jason, what is the error?
[07:38] <silvaran> paradigm: Problems are never small.... otherwise, they wouldn't be called problems... :)
[07:39] <paradigm> silvaren:it says something about /boot
[07:39] <eyequeue> Jason, perhaps it's +i or +k ?
[07:39] <paradigm> silvaren: yeha i gues
[07:39] <wizard1> so is ntfs support still experimenaL? what if u get it working can it screw ur hd by accident?   i checked and it says rw in mount but cant write to it...
[07:39] <silvaran> paradigm: What exactly?
[07:39] <Jason> eyequeue: "channel is invite only" for some reason now
[07:39] <paradigm> silvaren: gonna try it agian and will tell ya
[07:39] <paradigm> silvarenok?
[07:39] <ynef> Jason: well, then the channel is invite only -- know the right people, get invited :-)
[07:39] <eyequeue> Jason, you'd need an op to invite you i guess, maybe they had an attack
[07:40] <silvaran> paradigm: Okie
[07:40] <wizard1> ynef:  so now i use vmware and use firefox through that haha ironic huh when using ubuntu...
[07:40] <paradigm> silvaren: ok
[07:40] <Jason> eyequeue: +i +k..?
[07:40] <foo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1242104#post1242104 - am trying to install gnucash 2 ... I get some dependency errors trying to install with dpkg -i .. can I install with apt-get or aptitude or something to pick up the dependencies?
[07:40] <Madpilot> Jason, there's a #xchat channel here on freenode
[07:40] <ynef> wizard1: yeah, NTFS is still experimental -- and rw mode is ignored, since the kernel is compiled without the experimental support for writing (I suppose)
[07:41] <eyequeue> Jason, +i is inviteonly, +k means you need to know a channel key (letmein)
[07:41] <wizard1> ahh i see.
[07:41] <Jason> eyequeue:  an attack..? , and that would make it go down like that..?  , i was in there last night..
[07:41] <wizard1> that sucks u'd think they would have got ntfs support going by now? ... oh well ubuntu is free i cant really complain.
[07:41] <eyequeue> Jason, no, the attack may cause an op to make the channel +i
[07:41] <silvaran> paradigm: Yeah I'm trying to download vmware so I can setup your environment on my machine, it might take awhile though...
[07:41] <ynef> Jason: an attack would perhaps lead the moderators to invite only people they know aren't going to continue the attack
[07:41] <Jason> eyequeue: like a virus..?
[07:41] <eyequeue> wizard1, the issue is that it is proprietary, write ms and complain, heh
[07:42] <silvaran> SO I repeat: Can anyone help rebuild an MBR for GRUB after installing WINDOWS ???
[07:42] <wizard1> ohhh i see...  im not surprised haha
[07:42] <eyequeue> Jason, no a human in charge closed the door
[07:42] <Jason> eyequeue: why would they suddenly do that..? , i was in there last night no probs..
[07:43] <KyoLptp`> oh, sweet, I still have a problem
[07:43] <ynef> wizard1: well, there are other projects that do it in a different way -- for instance, captive which uses Wine and Windows' own ntfs.sys -- that has (IIRC) complete support for NTFS (but I wouldn't trust it anyway)
[07:43] <eyequeue> Jason, as i said, perhaps it was in response to an attack.  i wasn't there, it is only conjecture
[07:43] <KyoLptp`> I no longer have any sound >_<
[07:43] <eyequeue> KyoLptp`, what did you change?
[07:43] <ynef> KyoLptp`: the volume isn't just turned way down, is it? ;-)
[07:44] <KyoLptp`> I didn't change anything
[07:44] <silvaran> Come on.... so a guy installs Ubuntu, and then he installs Windows... Windows wipes out his MBR... it's gotta be a simple thing to restore the MBR to dual boot.... right...? Anyone?.... echo... <echo>... (echo)...
[07:44] <KyoLptp`> the sound's been gone since... I dunno, this morning
[07:44] <KyoLptp`> silvaran, I had the same problem, just google it
[07:44] <eyequeue> silvaran, yeah, reinstall grub
[07:45] <ynef> silvaran: http://www.google.com/search?q=restore%20grub%20ubuntu
[07:45] <KyoLptp`> 'mbr windows ubuntu' or something
[07:45] <eyequeue> silvaran, windows doesn't "play well with others"
[07:45] <klhrevolutionist> Currently, the only installer we have is for Debian. The best way to install it is to add the line "deb http://actlab.tv/debian binary/" to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and then do an "apt-get update" and an "apt-get install snakebite". This will also install the latest version of BitTorrent (much more up-to-date than the standard one in Debian).
[07:45] <silvaran> eyequeue: I know it doesn't :)
[07:45] <klhrevolutionist> How to add that repo to my sources.list please
[07:45] <silvaran> paradigm: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[07:46] <eyequeue> klhrevolutionist, it is not advisable to add debian repos to ubuntu
[07:46] <eyequeue> !repos > klhrevolutionist
[07:46] <silvaran> Lovely.  Maybe I'm frustrated because paradigm (whom I thought I was helping) is no longer in this channel.
[07:47] <klhrevolutionist> ty
[07:47] <KyoLptp`> so, uh, yeah, how do I restore the sound?
[07:47] <eyequeue> np
[07:47] <silvaran> Thanks ynef, eyequeue, I think your tips will do the trick :)
[07:47] <ynef> klhrevolutionist: from a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list -- add the line as specified somewhere in that file, then run those "apt-get" commands with sudo: "sudo apt-get update", etc
[07:47] <eyequeue> silvaran, :)
[07:47] <Sikon> !video
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <KyoLptp`> !sound
[07:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:47] <ynef> KyoLptp`: did the sound die just now during a regular session, or did you restart the computer and it hasn't worked at all since?
[07:48] <KyoLptp`> I honestly can't tell, as I haven't been using the sound
[07:48] <Ironmonk3y> hi all found some thing awesome http://yourprxy.com/TDOA.html look at the link
[07:48] <silvaran> I hate how I've been using Linux since 1998, and this cure-all pill called a "distro" comes along and solves everyone's problems. :)
[07:48] <Sikon> hehhhh
[07:48] <ynef> KyoLptp`: so you don't really know if it's ever worked?
[07:48] <KyoLptp`> I just noticed that when I hovered the cursor over an mp3, nothing happened where it'd usually start playing the sound
[07:48] <Sikon> well, I like it when everything works out of the box
[07:48] <Ironmonk3y> hi all found some thing awesome http://yourprxy.com/TDOA.html look at the link
[07:48] <KyoLptp`> it was working, yes
[07:48] <ynef> KyoLptp`: how about when you double click the file?
[07:49] <KyoLptp`> still mute
[07:49] <eyequeue> Ironmonk3y, why?  spamming?
[07:49] <Sikon> Question: how do I capture video from my desktop?
[07:49] <silvaran> Anyways, I'd hate to sound pretentous, but I gotta say, Ubuntu rocks, and I appreciate what everyone here is doing :).
[07:49] <KyoLptp`> I tried opening it in multiple media players and different volumes
[07:49] <KyoLptp`> I don't even get the little logon melody when I boot ubuntu
[07:49] <Ironmonk3y> nah its an awesome ebook
[07:49] <eyequeue> Ironmonk3y, why?
[07:49] <xinted> cant read ebooks
[07:50] <xinted> got too much of ubuntu
[07:50] <harrisR> eyequeue, like you said much less traffic after changing my default ssh port
[07:50] <eyequeue> harrisR, heheheh
[07:50] <ynef> KyoLptp`: and you're positive that it's not just muted? try opening a terminal and running your favourite media player -- if it can't connect to the sound device, it should complain with an error
[07:50] <eyequeue> harrisR, do look into keys-only as well
[07:50] <silvaran> harrisR: To where did you change your ssh port?
[07:50] <KyoLptp`> damn it
[07:50] <sn00p> Ironmonk3y, that is spam
[07:51] <KyoLptp`> I'm so sick of stupid problems fixed by insanely easy tweaks
[07:51] <eyequeue> silvaran, it he tells you, you'll attack it, lol
[07:51] <harrisR> I am reading up on changing the keys at the moment, so I will do that as well
[07:51] <Ironmonk3y> hi all found some thing awesome http://yourprxy.com/TDOA.html look at the link(awesome abook on adsense and its free)
[07:51] <KyoLptp`> just double-clicked the volume icon
[07:51] <silvaran> eyequeue: /me will shut up now, thanks :).
[07:51] <ynef> KyoLptp`: :-D
[07:51] <KyoLptp`> somehow, the PCM channel got muted
[07:51] <eyequeue> silvaran, definitely j/k there :)
[07:51] <KyoLptp`> I didn't mute it
[07:51] <sn00p> Ironmonk3y, stop that spamming I dont want to know how to make $50,000
[07:51] <Ironmonk3y> shore
[07:51] <Ironmonk3y> ur loss LOL
[07:52] <sn00p> Ironmonk3y, yea I give you $ and I get nothing  hahaha
[07:52] <silvaran> sn00p: So um... that 50k.... you um... looking to share it? :)
[07:52] <harrisR> You know, I recently installed tor and it works really well but I have a question on using ssh through tor. when I use tor behind ssh it keeps my ip hidden but does it pass my information to tor's proxie servers? like my password and such? is it not a good idea to use tor behind ssh or am I just paranoid?
[07:52] <KyoLptp`> my laptop has a mute shortcut
[07:52] <KyoLptp`> but I never use it, and it only mutes the master channel
[07:53] <Ironmonk3y>  hi all found some thing awesome http://yourprxy.com/TDOA.html look at the link(awesome abook on adsense and its free)
[07:53] <KyoLptp`> that's also another problem- whenever I use laptop shortcuts (adjust brightness, volume, things with the Fn key), the corresponding icon is distorted
[07:54] <KyoLptp`> and it also messes up the cursor
[07:54] <silvaran> OK getting tired of Ironmonk3y's announcements.  Can an op /kick ?
[07:54] <KyoLptp`> as in, makes it disappear (unless I do something to 'change' it, like highlight a link or text)
[07:54] <eyequeue> silvaran, he just left
[07:54] <ynef> silvaran: dude, he left
[07:54] <fishy> How do I change the default OS GRUB loads?
[07:54] <silvaran> ynef: tk
[07:55] <ynef> fishy: edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, it has the default option setting
[07:56] <paradigm> silvaren: the error is "could not find the device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[07:58] <paradigm> silvaran: the error is "could not find the device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[07:58] <mabus> How do I permanently change an environment variable?
[07:58] <rmjb> mabus: how do you set one now?
[07:58] <ynef> mabus: add it either to /etc/environment for all users, or add it to your shell's startup files
[07:58] <silvaran> paradigm: Got a new link ' http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub ' .... can you try that?
[07:58] <spinz8r> what do i need to edit in order to output ibook's display onto a projector? tks.
[07:59] <paradigm> silvaran: thaks
[07:59] <silvaran> paradigm: I'd like to say, "you're welcome," but only if it works! :)
[08:00] <mabus> ynef: what startup file?
[08:00] <tuxtheslacker> hello. how do I manually set my resolution?
[08:00] <mabus> rmjb: $MANPATH=blah; export $MANPATH
[08:00] <eyequeue> harrisR, i'm not sure
[08:00] <ynef> mabus: have you changed the shell you use?
[08:00] <mabus> ynef: no
[08:00] <rmjb> mabus: put that at the end of .profile or .bash_profile in your home directory. Or both
[08:00] <mabus> ok thanks
[08:01] <tuxtheslacker> because I have a widescreen monitor, and the resolution showing up isn't that of a widescreen :-)
[08:01] <paradigm> silvaran: will try it now
[08:01] <silvaran> When was Dapper officially released?
[08:01] <harrisR> eyequeue, ok. I just wondered because tor is basically a proxy server service right? I connect to there server, then from there request what I need in the internet be it web pages or anything?
[08:01] <eyequeue> !release
[08:01] <Dasnipa] [> silvaran, 6.06...
[08:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:01] <eyequeue> silvaran, some day in june, that site may know nbetter
[08:02] <tuxtheslacker> anyone able to help me set up my monitor to make it take a larger resolution?
[08:02] <eyequeue> harrisR, yeah, and "onion" style network of proxies through proxies
[08:02] <eyequeue> harrisR, s/and/an/
[08:02] <silvaran> eyequeue: Hahaha ok... I just figured I could take Dapper's release date and +6 months before I should worry about Eft :).
[08:03] <eyequeue> silvaran, no, edgy is late october, check !schedule for the exact, 2x
[08:03] <eyequeue> !schedule
[08:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:03] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[08:03] <starcannon> wow, i use several linux distro's but let me say Ubuntu is BY FAR the easiest to install and use, this will be my new newbies choice linux GREAT JOB guys!
[08:03] <silvaran> eyequeue: Ahh, thanks.
[08:03] <eyequeue> silvaran, due to the LTS, dapper was 2 months late
[08:03] <Gumby> does anyone here know why /usr/bin/startfluxbox when started from gdm doesnt read a users ~/.fluxbox/startup script?
[08:04] <NuclearWaffle> I got my X to work. o.o
[08:04] <NuclearWaffle> Yay.
[08:04] <eyequeue> silvaran, 6.10, 7.04, etc
[08:04] <silvaran> eyequeue: Ohh, I was there... running Dapper pre release late into its teens.  Am just looking forward to the Edgy supplied kernel personally.
[08:05] <rmjb> tuxtheslacker: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:05] <eyequeue> silvaran, i think edgy will be nice, when it's ready :)
[08:05] <rmjb> run through that wizard
[08:05] <starcannon> my Ubuntu worked on all my jurrasic ware straight away, had to tweak my xorg.conf slightly, but even still that was to make screen scrolling smoother am amazed at how smooth a linux distro this is, absolutely fantastic
[08:05] <rmjb> and take note of the backup file it creates in case you need to go back
[08:05] <eyequeue> silvaran, i actually stuck it on a small partitoin earlier today
[08:06] <silvaran> eyequeue: It's funny, I just got a new mobo for a server at work.  I didn't think it would work with Dapper.  But it took Edgy to tell me to pass "noapic" to the kernel boot before I realized it would work perfectly fine with Dapper :).
[08:07] <eyequeue> silvaran, funny how that happens, heh
[08:07] <silvaran> eyequeue: These darn mobo manufacturers... wish they would keep up with Linux :)
[08:08] <eyequeue> silvaran, sometimes i think we need to get out of our single mindset to see the answers (out of dapper, into edgy, to see dapper solutions)
[08:10] <silvaran> eyequeue: Well it's the psychology that comes with a "release".... I mean, everyone has access to kernel.org, but they don't realized that a lot of the things in the latest kernel listed on kernel.org are released in our favorite distros (like Ubuntu).  Technically, my nVidia 570 shouldn't be supported until kernel 2.16.17, but it works fine in Ubuntu's stock kernel with the right boot parameters.
[08:10] <w32> what would cause the installer to hang while detecting hardware ?
[08:10] <eyequeue> yeah, ubuntu-kernel is good about many backports
[08:10] <eyequeue> esp the security ones, but the feature ones as well
[08:10] <w32> I tried to pass noapic no lapic still hangs
[08:11] <w32> i tried to pass linux noapci pci=irqroute pci=noapci acpi=off irqpoll
[08:11] <w32> still hangs
[08:11] <silvaran> eyequeue: Which is fine... I mean, even Gentoo has their own patches from the "vanilla" kernel.  I'm not sure there's a distro out there that doesn't use Linus' vanilla kernel from kernel.org.
[08:12] <eyequeue> true
[08:12] <silvaran> eyequeue: Besides lfs :)
[08:12] <eyequeue> heh
[08:12] <chaos_> anyone here love linux a lot?
[08:12] <silvaran> chaos_: Yes, and coincidentally, I like breathing too.
[08:12] <silvaran> :)
[08:12] <chaos_> you don't like breathing
[08:13] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[08:14] <tuxtheslacker> how do I manually edit my resolution?
[08:14] <n0dl> where is the ubuntu devs channel?
[08:14] <Healot> the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:14] <n0dl> theres a major problem with the naim pacakeg
[08:14] <tuxtheslacker> Healot: did that, and it's still not an option.
[08:14] <Healot> man X on how to edit that file
[08:15] <tuxtheslacker> Healot: ^^ I've done that.
[08:15] <n0dl> naim nearly removes the whole base system under sudo apt-get install
[08:15] <Healot> what option?
[08:15] <eyequeue> !bugs > n0dl
[08:15] <silvaran> Bugs?
[08:15] <silvaran> !bugs > silvaran
[08:15] <paradigm> silvaran: FOUND A WAY AND IT WORKS PERFECTLY
[08:16] <tuxtheslacker> it doesn't actually give the choice to change it to that under system > preferances > screen resolution.
[08:16] <ermak> hi all! I am using emacs in gnome and there is trouble with changing keyboard layouts - emacs has mule and i use it, but gnome's layout changing (alt+shift) make impossible to use combinations in emacs like M-, so is it possible to turn off layouts changing in emacs?
[08:16] <paradigm> silvaran: what you do is
[08:16] <n0dl> thanks
[08:16] <silvaran> paradigm: What's that?
[08:16] <paradigm> silvaran: sudo grub
[08:16] <tuxtheslacker> Healot: ^^
[08:16] <silvaran> paradigm: /msg me pm
[08:16] <paradigm> ok
[08:16] <silvaran> :)
[08:16] <eyequeue> silvaran, /msg ubotu bugs, too :)
[08:16] <eyequeue> silvaran, for when the channel is frantic, like earlier
[08:17] <w32> what would cause the installer to hang while detecting hardware ? I tried to pass noapic no lapic still hangs
[08:17] <silvaran> Hehehe did that.... unfortunately, I'm just a regular beneficiary of Ubuntu... :)
[08:17] <w32> i tried to pass linux noapci pci=irqroute pci=noapci acpi=off irqpoll
[08:17] <w32>  still hangs
[08:17] <Qu1ckFr0st> can anyone here tell me anything about Macintosh emulators?.
[08:17] <silvaran> paradigm: Hey if you can't PM me, go ahead and chat in this channel.
[08:17] <tuxtheslacker> I edited my xorg.conf... I think it misconfigured my monitor... I remember there being an option somewhere to set up a generic monitor?
[08:18] <Qu1ckFr0st> ,,, well. can anyone recommend a mac emulator or something?
[08:18] <paradigm> silvaran: sudo grub then
[08:18] <muzik-> hey all.  I just installed 6.06, and i am trying to get my hauppauge 350 working.  Im stuck on the step "Put the firmware in your hotplug/firmware" directory.  I have the firmware, but I dont have a firmware folder.  I have an AMD64 system...
[08:18] <tuxtheslacker> hmm... any ideas?
[08:18] <paradigm> silvaran: in grub prompt
[08:18] <silvaran> paradigm: OK
[08:18] <botxj> CPU Info: (1 CPU - AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+, 2.01 GHz, L1: 64KB L2: 512KB (6% Load))
[08:18] <eyequeue> tuxtheslacker, maybe you're thinking of sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:18] <paradigm> silvaran: its root (TAB)
[08:18] <muzik-> any pointers on where hotplug/firmware might be?
[08:18] <mike__> hello
[08:19] <paradigm> silvaran: TAB will tell you what drive grub is picking up
[08:19] <mike__> i have a question
[08:19] <mike__> i just downloaded an installed ubuntu
[08:19] <tuxtheslacker> anyone care to explain it?
[08:19] <paradigm> silvaran: then its "grub> setup (linuxpartition)
[08:19] <silvaran> paradigm: That's cool.  Yeah GRUB has tab-completion... I'm just sorry I couldn't be more helpful right off the bat :)
[08:19] <mike__>  it doesn't have the codecs to play mp3s
[08:19] <mike__> and i can't find where to get them
[08:19] <eyequeue> mike__, watch the bot
[08:19] <unfknblvbl> !restricted
[08:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:19] <silvaran> paradigm: So are you able to dual-boot now?
[08:19] <paradigm> silvaran: thanks for your help
[08:19] <eyequeue> !mp3 > mike__
[08:19] <muzik-> mike: what are you trying to play your mp3s in?
[08:20] <paradigm> silvaran: yep
[08:20] <silvaran> paradigm: Hey, you're quite welcome.
[08:20] <paradigm> silvaran: thanks mate, have a nice day cyas
[08:20] <eyequeue> !repos > mike__
[08:20] <silvaran> paradigm: You too, enjoy Ubuntuing :)
[08:21] <tuxtheslacker> anyone able to help me out with my resolutions problems? because currently this is borderline unusable.
[08:21] <chaos_> !xmms > mike__
[08:21] <unfknblvbl> poor mike got flooded with help
[08:21] <chaos_> that's a bad thing?
[08:21] <unfknblvbl> no
[08:21] <silvaran> unfknblvbl: Hehe wish I had that problem :)
[08:21] <unfknblvbl> yeh same
[08:21] <unfknblvbl> ^^
[08:22] <silvaran> Heh
[08:22] <chaos_> oh jeez, those starving african people got flooded with food, what will they do?
[08:22] <muzik-> I just installed 6.06 (im a Fedora convert!), and i am trying to get my hauppauge 350 working.  Im stuck on the step "Put the firmware in your hotplug/firmware" directory.  I have the firmware, but I dont have a firmware folder.  I have an AMD64 system...
[08:22] <silvaran> chaos_: Install Ubuntu, I would think.
[08:22] <unfknblvbl> chill chaos_ i was joking
[08:22] <tuxtheslacker> same here silvaran especially with this freakin' problem with my resolution! :-)
[08:22] <chemaja> muzik-, i just switched from Fedora too
[08:22] <chaos_> !love > silcaran
[08:23] <chaos_> !love > silvaran
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about love - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <muzik-> hey... yea fedora was getting way to unstable for me :s
[08:23] <silvaran> tuxtheslacker: Wish I could help, I really do, besides editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually! :)
[08:23] <DanielHolth> making the jump to edgy.
[08:23] <unfknblvbl> hey tuxtheslacker run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:23] <unfknblvbl> though
[08:23] <unfknblvbl> you need to make sure you backup your xorg.conf file
[08:23] <DanielHolth> anybody have  ipv6 experience with ubuntu?
[08:23] <eyequeue> DanielHolth, #ubuntu+1
[08:23] <silvaran> ubotu: You need a lesson on love, my dear.
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about You need a lesson on love, my dear. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <silvaran> :)
[08:23] <chemaja> muzik-, the less repos the better :)
[08:23] <chaos_> ubotu needs some <3
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs some <3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <muzik-> chemaja- ya and everything seems to "just work" on ubuntu... especially with synaptic
[08:24] <tuxtheslacker> unfknblvbl: thanks :-)
[08:24] <muzik-> im really happy with it :)
[08:24] <ermak> is it possible to turn out gnome keyboard layout changing for a particulr application? anyone know?
[08:24] <chaos_> !<3 > ubotu
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <chemaja> muzik-, it's okay ;)
[08:24] <chemaja> muzik-, i can always find things that don't work, but yea it Sucks The Least(TM) for this hardware/usergroup
[08:24] <robodude> hello
[08:25] <chaos_> hello robodude
[08:25] <chemaja> muzik-, that's including XP in the STL comparison :D
[08:25] <unfknblvbl> tuxtheslacker: ubuntu doesn't liek wierd resolutions, as in it doesn't liek 1152 ones, only the nromal ones as in 1024, 1200, 1600 etc
[08:25] <muzik-> chemaja- hehe
[08:25] <unfknblvbl> atleast thats from what i learnt from my experience
[08:25] <robodude> im trying to get 1920x1600, but have failed
[08:25] <chaos_> would new monitor drivers help with that?
[08:25] <robodude> installed nvidia drivers
[08:26] <chaos_> you have an nvidia monitor?
[08:26] <chaos_> WOW
[08:26] <robodude> and changed the xorg.conf to use "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[08:26] <robodude> no
[08:26] <robodude> i have dell2405
[08:26] <chaos_> did it show the nvidia splash when you restarted X?
[08:26] <robodude> yea
[08:26] <muzik-> I just installed 6.06, and i am trying to get my video capture card (hauppauge 350) working.  I've followed a few howtos on the internet, but im stuck on the step "Put the firmware in your hotplug/firmware" directory.  I have the firmware, but I dont have a firmware folder.  I have an AMD64 system...
[08:27] <chaos_> its good then
[08:27] <chaos_> try finding monitor drivers
[08:27] <robodude> I added 1920x1600 but i can't get the resolution
[08:27] <mattyv> robodude: try going through sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to set up the res
[08:27] <VHockey86> robodude: the 2405 runs at 1920x1200, not 1920x1600
[08:28] <VHockey86> ah nvm, i was immedating thinking you meant the widescreen
[08:29] <robodude> ah yes
[08:29] <robodude> i meant 1920 x 1200
[08:29] <cafuego> 1920x1600 is still weird
[08:29] <VHockey86> What graphics card do you have? I couldnt get 1920x1200 from my ti4200 to work w/ the nvidia linux drivers, but it worked fine on my 6800gt
[08:29] <tato> is there a command to find out what file system format a disk is?
[08:29] <muzik-> I just installed 6.06, and i am trying to get a piece of hardware working.  From a howto i need to put some files in my "hotplug/firmware" directory.  I have the files to put there, but I dont have a firmware folder nor a hotplug.  I have an AMD64 system...
[08:29] <robodude> i have 6600gt
[08:29] <muzik-> tato: sudo fdisk -l
[08:30] <botxj> Display Info: (1280x1024 16bit 60Hz)  Monitor: (Plug and Play Monitor)
[08:30] <muzik-> tato: that will list all the disks attached to your system, and show the filesystems
[08:30] <robodude> i was reading on the fourms that I might need to use 1920x1200_60?
[08:30] <cafuego> muzik-: Dump the files in /lib/firmware/($uname -r)
[08:30] <cafuego> muzik-: No. Partition type !+ fielsystem type.
[08:30] <cafuego> um, != even
[08:30] <muzik-> lol
[08:30] <VHockey86> and you should still be able to get 1920x1200 with just the standard 'nv' driver... so my guess is that its an xorg.conf problem rather than a driver issue
[08:31] <muzik-> whoa
[08:31] <muzik-> i swear fdisk used to show the filesystem
[08:31] <robodude> VHockey86: hmm
[08:31] <chaos_> 1920x1200 is pretty massive
[08:31] <cafuego> muzik-: No, it has no idea of filesystem.
[08:31] <robodude> VHockey86: what did you add to ur xorg?
[08:31] <tato> muzik-, that lists the partition type but not the exact filesystem (like ext2, etc)
[08:31] <muzik-> cafuego: well i learned somethin ;) and sorry tato, i'll shutup :p
[08:32] <cafuego> tato: You can (probably) patse the magic info from the first few (dunno how many) bytes of the partition.
[08:32] <cafuego> tato: ... but don't ask me how ;-)
[08:32] <tato> :-(
[08:32] <robodude> VHockey86: I can get to nvidia-settings
[08:32] <robodude> I guess thats a good thing
[08:34] <chaos_> I have crystalized sweat salt blotches on my mouse pad :S
[08:34] <robodude> sprinkle on ur salad
[08:34] <chaos_> also, cheese
[08:34] <chemaja> chaos_, you don't wanna know what's blotched on my mouse pad
[08:34] <VHockey86> robodude: i think all I have is "1920x1200@60" under depth 24 modes for the monitor config in xorg
[08:34] <chaos_> chemaja, yes I do
[08:34] <chemaja> chaos_, actually, *I* don't know
[08:35] <robodude> hmm
[08:35] <chaos_> I bet I know what's on your mouse pad
[08:35] <chemaja> all i know is Dapper is destroying my love for FC5
[08:35] <Volvo> hi room, anyhelp for Webmin, I just cannot login
[08:35] <chaos_> ... a mouse.
[08:35] <chaos_> :O
[08:35] <chemaja> chaos_, ha! i don't even *have* a mousepad! ;-)
[08:35] <chaos_> oh noes!
[08:35] <chaos_> false assumptions
[08:35] <robodude> "1920x1200" or "1920x1200_60" or "1920x1200@60"
[08:35] <chemaja> :)
[08:35] <chaos_> <-- fool
[08:35] <Volvo> I dono the default user name and password to login
[08:36] <chemaja> man, Edgy is going to pwn
[08:36] <chemaja> Dapper already pwns
[08:36] <Madpilot> !webmin
[08:36] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[08:36] <chemaja> wtf
[08:36] <VHockey86> robodude: http://pastebin.ca/173732
[08:36] <robodude> I hope edgy has XEN
[08:36] <Volvo> oh ok
[08:36] <chemaja> sorry channel, you much cop SO many euphoric phanboys
[08:36] <chemaja> :$
[08:36] <chaos_> what's new in edgy that dapper dont got?
[08:36] <DanielHolth> Lots o'bugs!
[08:36] <DanielHolth> whee
[08:36] <chemaja> chaos_, native Gnome 2.16?
[08:36] <eyequeue> lol
[08:36] <Shoo-Shu> hey, how do u change ur user password???
[08:36] <Alucard> help! my system is as unstable as charles manson!
[08:36] <chaos_> that should mean something to me... i use linux after all
[08:36] <eyequeue> Shoo-Shu, passwd
[08:37] <robodude> VHockey86: how did you get those modlines?
[08:37] <Shoo-Shu> never mind got it
[08:37] <mattyv> tato: found a way, sudo parted /dev/hd* print
[08:38] <rmjb> Shoo-Shu: System -> Preferences -> About me
[08:38] <DanielHolth> I tried to set LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[08:38] <wizard1> im missing the add applications thing under applications. any idea how to get it back?
[08:38] <DanielHolth> but it doesn't like it so
[08:38] <Shoo-Shu> its ok. i got it thanks any way rmjb
[08:38] <DanielHolth> is there a better way to do this?
[08:38] <cafuego> tato: sudo /sbin/vol_id <partition>
[08:38] <VHockey86> robodude: came out of a GUI display settings config for a dell 2405 in kubuntu
[08:38] <chaos_> anyone know how to get mounts to appear in Computer and Desktop?
[08:38] <eyequeue> wizard1, applications > accessories > alacarte
[08:38] <wizard1> thanks eyequeue
[08:39] <eyequeue> np
[08:39] <robodude> VHockey86: dang I would figure gnome would have something similar
[08:39] <Alucard> so, anyone know how to fix intermittent sound?
[08:39] <cafuego> parted is misidentifying my OpenBSD slices as sun-ufs
[08:39] <rmjb> anyone know how to get mounts NOT to appear on the desktop? They're blocking Jessica Alba's face :(
[08:39] <DanielHolth> Alucard mabye you have a frayed wire.
[08:39] <Alucard> it's definitely not a hardware issue.
[08:39] <DanielHolth> rmjb that's filthy. stop mounting Jessica Alba.
[08:39] <robodude> VHockey86: k, going to try the stuff out
[08:39] <tato> mattyv, thanks, worked like  a charm :-)
[08:39] <|thunder> chaos_, gconf-editor  ,   then to apps/nautleus/desktop
[08:39] <rmjb> DanielHolth: mounted disks
[08:39] <cafuego> rmjb: There's a setting in the nautilus prefs in the configuration editor.
[08:39] <robodude> VHockey86:  gracias
[08:40] <Beta_M> i'm trying to remove PCMCI stuff from my computer, it'd demands for me to remove ubuntu-desctop and ubuntu-base (which i thought were pretty safe to remove or so i was told) but also ubuntu-minimal... and i'm kinda conserned about that one
[08:40] <DanielHolth> rmjb oh I totally didn't understand that you meant icons were appearing when you inserted things into your computer.
[08:40] <cafuego> DanielHolth: It's fine, just be fore to reinstall them before doing an upgrade (to say Edgy)
[08:40] <cafuego> s/sure/sure/
[08:41] <mattyv> tato: no probs
[08:41] <chaos_> |thunder, it is enabled, but the mount wont show
[08:42] <Alucard> I seem to have the issue in KNotify
[08:42] <Alucard> anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[08:42] <chaos_> brb, restarting
[08:44] <muzik-> hey thanks for the ivtv help.. i gotta go try restarting now (i got past the firmware error!)
[08:44] <botxj> amazing, everyone has stopped talking
[08:45] <Beta_M> everyone must have been restarting
[08:45] <botxj> lol
[08:46] <dibblego> how do you roll back a kernel upgrade with the live CD?
[08:46] <DanielHolth> rmjb is kde an option?
[08:46] <DanielHolth> I can't find it in nautilus.
[08:47] <rmjb> I found it in the configuration editor
[08:47] <rmjb> Go into the Alacarte Menu Editor and enable the Configuration Editor in System Tools
[08:48] <|thunder> who was helping muzik with the ivtv driver ?
[08:48] <quuxo> anyone seen this: mouse moves around the desktop just fine. But does not respond to clicks on anything!
[08:48] <arup> hi how to enable CMSS for Creative Sondcards for a 5.1 speaker system
[08:50] <|thunder> quuxo, may be a problem with xorg.conf
[08:50] <unfknblvbl> does the mouse work elsewhere quuxo ?
[08:50] <|thunder> !ivtv
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ivtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <rmjb> DanielHolth: got it?
[08:52] <DanielHolth> KDE probably has desktop preferences.
[08:53] <rmjb> oh, you're in KDE?
[08:53] <DanielHolth> In Nautilus I don't know, the 'prefs' screen in a nautilus window doesn't say a thing about device icons.
[08:53] <DanielHolth> no I'm in gnome now.
[08:53] <DanielHolth> I really like XFCE, I don't think it has any icons on the desktop.
[08:53] <harisund> How do you check syslog in ubuntu?
[08:54] <DanielHolth> You might also consider getting a second monitor or a picture frame for your Jessica Alba images. That way the icons and those pesky IRC windows won't get in the way.
[08:54] <harisund> what is the command or it?
[08:54] <rmjb> I found it in something called the Configuration Editor, but to see that in the menu you have to go into the menu editor and turn it on in the System Tools menu DanielHolth
[08:54] <DanielHolth> wheoh
[08:54] <DanielHolth> that's pretty special.
[08:54] <rmjb> the irc app has transparency :)
[08:55] <rmjb> the Alba images are pretty good, worth seeing
[08:56] <KyoLptp`> Alright, I heard that the edgy themes are exceedingly cool
[08:56] <afflux> morgen
[08:56] <KyoLptp`> How would I go about finding these pictures (actually, I have the pictures) and sounds?
[08:58] <harrisR> eyequeue, remember I was telling you yesterday about the bruteforcer? There was actually two of them. I ran on of their IP addresses and got this information: mail3.adjoined.com (65.197.31.76)
[08:58] <cafuego> KyoLptp`: The Edgy desktop theme has been on art.ubuntu.org for a *VERY* long time.
[08:58] <harrisR> then lists the email. could this be the actual person?
[08:59] <KyoLptp`> I didn't know art.ubuntu.org existed :(
[08:59] <KyoLptp`> and it doesn't seem to be up at the moment
[08:59] <total_meltdown> art.ubuntu.com *
[09:00] <KyoLptp`> :x
[09:00] <unfknblvbl> :-X
[09:00] <rmjb> KyoLptp`: start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/Summary_18JULY2006
[09:00] <jadacyrus> Okay, twice i've tried to clean install ubuntu (Xubuntu & Knot 3), each time GRUB never installed. There are no isntances of 'grub' in /boot. I've installed other Linux distros like opensuse and archlinux and the bootloader installs correctly, however using the LiveCD install method with Ubuntu does not correctly install grub. What could be the problem here?
[09:00] <cafuego> KyoLptp`: Also see art.gnome.org :-)
[09:00] <KyoLptp`> yeah
[09:00] <unfknblvbl> jadacyrus: did u check the cd for defects ?
[09:01] <KyoLptp`> I've been using aiglx for months
[09:01] <jadacyrus> yes, the cd validates
[09:01] <jadacyrus> ive even burned another copy and validated it
[09:01] <KyoLptp`> only just downloaded the themes packages for cgwd
[09:01] <KyoLptp`> they're amazing
[09:01] <Homer> how do I kill a process
[09:01] <holycow> for xubuntu try #xubuntu, knot3 is pre alpha and buggy.  post bugs
[09:01] <Homer> !process
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <Homer> how do I kill a process?
[09:01] <jojoman02> is there any way to make the current gnome (ctrl+f) search in the current directory instead of /home/xxx all the time???
[09:02] <jojoman02> Homer: alt+f2 xkill if you can see it
[09:02] <KyoLptp`> thanks for the links
[09:02] <jadacyrus> It doesn't seem to be a problem with the specific version of Ubuntu. All Ubuntu LiveCD's i've tried before this have failed in the same way. However I had dapper isntalled on this machine previously, and I wanted to clean install over it, and this is when the problems arose.
[09:02] <rmjb> KyoLptp`: yeah they are, browse around, from that page, it looks like they've settledon some wall papers, and so on
[09:03] <rmjb> and there's supposed to be a Blubuntu theme for those that don't quite like the brown
[09:03] <KyoLptp`> hm
[09:03] <KyoLptp`> this seems to only have pictures
[09:04] <KyoLptp`> I already have the backgrounds, I just want the edgy sounds
[09:04] <Flannel> KyoLptp`: they not ableto help you in #ubuntu+1?
[09:04] <tejinder> how can i disable some daemons from boot?
[09:04] <tejinder> i am using kde
[09:04] <wizard1> anyone know how i can run add applications ? its missing out of my applications and also missing in alacarte
[09:05] <mybers> hello to everybody...a techy support would be most helpful from anyone.how to setup internet sharing/gateway in dapper? the DHCP has already up and running.
[09:05] <mybers> tried posting the issue but to no avail
[09:06] <cafuego> mybers: You need two commands.
[09:06] <cafuego> mybers: 1) Enable ip forwarding: sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[09:06] <mybers> go ahead cafuego
[09:06] <mybers> thats already setup with ivp4
[09:06] <mybers> =1
[09:06] <arup> how do i  configure soundcard in ubuntu?
[09:06] <cafuego> mybers: 2) Masquerade forwarded traffic: 'sudo iptables -t nat -a POSTROUTING -i <internet interface> -j MASQUERADE'
[09:06] <jojoman02> arup: what u need to configure?
[09:07] <cafuego> mybers: Where internet interface is eth0 or ppp0 or eth1 or somesuch.
[09:07] <arup> i want to enable CMSS for upmixing.
[09:07] <jojoman02> arup: is your sound not working?
[09:07] <arup> no its working, but i have a 5.1 speaker system
[09:07] <jojoman02> is there any way to make the current gnome (ctrl+f) search in the current directory instead of my home dir all the time???
[09:07] <rmjb> arup: what creative card do you have? Audigy?
[09:08] <mybers> cafuego: i did iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j  MASQUERADE
[09:08] <arup> sound blaster 24 bit live!
[09:08] <rmjb> bring up the mixer and add the other channels
[09:08] <mybers> my internet is eth0 using DSL dynamic IP
[09:08] <cafuego> mybers: If you don't have any other firewall files, that's it.
[09:08] <cafuego> s/files/rules/
[09:08] <mybers> my second card is eth1 = 192.168.0.1
[09:09] <arup> rmjb: problem is mp3 s are played by only front two speakers
[09:09] <rmjb> other meaning individual channels, you should see one each for front right, left, centre and so on
[09:09] <cafuego> mybers: *nod* So if dhcp is set up and listing on eth1, it will now work.
[09:09] <rmjb> max out the volume on all the channels then you can hide them
[09:09] <rmjb> the master volume will control all after that
[09:11] <arup> rmjb: alsamixer ? yeah even though i increase the voulme two channel audio is played only by two front speakers, in windows when i enabled CMSS two channel audio was upmixed to 5.1 t
[09:11] <mybers> cafuego: heres what i ve written in dhcpd.conf= 'default-lease-time 600;
[09:11] <mybers> max-lease-time 7200;
[09:11] <mybers> option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
[09:11] <mybers> option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
[09:11] <mybers> option routers 192.168.1.0;
[09:11] <mybers> option domain-name-servers 203.87.128.3, 203.84.191.216, 203.87.128.4;
[09:11] <mybers> option domain-name "openaxcss.net";
[09:11] <mybers> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[09:11] <mybers>    range 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.100;
[09:11] <mybers>    range 192.168.1.150 192.168.1.200;
[09:11] <mybers> }    "
[09:11] <tejinder> lol
[09:11] <Qu1ckFr0st> hey
[09:11] <cafuego> mybers: PLEASE don't paste here!!!
[09:11] <mybers> oh sorry
[09:11] <Qu1ckFr0st> anyone wanna help me with installing Wine.. please?
[09:12] <cafuego> mybers: The routers IP should be the IP of your dhcp server, not a network address
[09:12] <Axidus> Cant you install wine from the manager?
[09:12] <rmjb> arup: for mine I have a slider for each channel named PCM Center, PCM LFE, PCM Side and so on
[09:12] <rmjb> once I maxed each one out all my speakers played
[09:13] <Qu1ckFr0st> well im running ubuntu and i need to check what version i have. cause i dont know.
[09:13] <Axidus> go to system About Ubuntu
[09:13] <Axidus> it will tell you there
[09:13] <mybers> cafuego: so the "option routers 192.168.1.0;" should be the IP address of my eth1(intranet)?
[09:13] <Qu1ckFr0st> 5.04
[09:13] <cafuego> mybers: yep (because to other machines, THAT is the router.
[09:14] <Qu1ckFr0st> ahh i need to update my version.
[09:14] <Qu1ckFr0st> how can I do that?
[09:14] <arup> rmjb: in alsamixer is see 1) Analog C 2) Analog F 3) Analog S ans so on
[09:14] <mybers> how about the option DNS? i wrote thee the DNS provided by the ISP? is that correct
[09:14] <rmjb> sorry, go to Edit -> Preferences to see the other channels
[09:15] <Axidus> Quickfrost: system , administration, update manager
[09:15] <cafuego> mybers: yup
[09:15] <Axidus> does anyone know how i can change the color of my output on my screen
[09:15] <BigMac> !pci-e
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pci-e - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Qu1ckFr0st> there isnt a update manager
[09:16] <Axidus> ?
[09:16] <Axidus> I have an update manager
[09:16] <Qu1ckFr0st> loll
[09:16] <rmjb> arup: did that help?
[09:16] <Axidus> what version do you have
[09:16] <Qu1ckFr0st> 5.04
[09:16] <BigMac> Hey guys My ubuntu simply wont run my ATI x700 radeon PCI-e
[09:16] <Qu1ckFr0st> it's Ubuntu Update Manager
[09:16] <Qu1ckFr0st> i was looking for first word update
[09:16] <Axidus> lol
[09:17] <orbin> BigMac: won't run how?
[09:17] <mybers> cafuego: everything is in place but my workstations cant browse yet..is there something i should configure in my windows PC?
[09:17] <arup> rmjb: how to get the Edit>Preference ?
[09:17] <BigMac> well i used the vesa drivers they worked but then installed the new ones, and they wont work
[09:18] <rmjb> double click on the speaker icon in the panel to bring up alsa-mixer
[09:18] <orbin> BigMac: what new ones?
[09:18] <BigMac> fgdbl? something like that
[09:18] <Qu1ckFr0st> told me to goto ubuntu linux.org to find update instructions for Dapper
[09:18] <Flannel> !tell Qu1ckFr0st about upgrade
[09:18] <mybers> cafuego: the workstation did get IP address from my linux DHCP server though..yet still no internet
[09:18] <orbin> BigMac: fglrx. how'd you install them and what's not working?
[09:18] <arup> rmjb: yeah i got the window
[09:19] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: that page will tell you, of course, you'll need to use the links on the top of the pages to go back a few versions
[09:19] <rmjb> arup: look for the PCM channels and add them, max them out, then you can remove them for the clutter
[09:19] <BigMac> No graphical responce. And i installed them using the Synaptic Package Manager
[09:19] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: it'll be like "Instructions for upgrading from breezy, if you're using an older version, go here, to the hoary to breezy upgrade page"
[09:19] <botxj> how in the hell can a program be contained in an image that executes when the image is viewed?
[09:19] <arup> rmjb: no still mp3s are played by two front speakers and the woofer. actually mp3s are 2.1 audio and they are played as 2.1 only :-(
[09:20] <rmjb> i get mine on all
[09:20] <rmjb> what are you using to play? rhythmbox?
[09:20] <JoseStefan> Flannel, that factoid has been updated ;)
[09:20] <Flannel> JoseStefan: oh, so it has.
[09:20] <arup> xmms
[09:20] <JoseStefan> Flannel, should be better now
[09:20] <Flannel> JoseStefan: is it a generic "for this to this upgrade, go here" menu-ish page?
[09:21] <JoseStefan> Flannel, take a look :P
[09:21] <Flannel> JoseStefan: I have no browser ATM
[09:21] <JoseStefan> :(
[09:22] <JoseStefan> Flannel, well, then yes, it's a menu-ish page, listing all supported upgrades
[09:22] <arup> rmjb: i am now trying rythmbox
[09:22] <surimi-> hello
[09:22] <Flannel> JoseStefan: lovely.  I'll check it out when I get a chance.
[09:22] <orbin> BigMac: well if you followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and it's not working, head to the forums.  there's a lot of fglrx threads.
[09:22] <|thunder> Flannel, you have w3m
[09:22] <Axidus> how can I change my font color
[09:23] <NineTeen67Comet> g'day all .. little question looking for ideas .. When I shutdown my box will shutdown but when I reboot, it sticks at "Will Reboot Now" .. (Normally it would click off and start back up just after this point) ..
[09:23] <Axidus> it's gray and I can't find the option to change it under color
[09:23] <Flannel> |thunder: no, I'm not on an ubuntu box, yadda yadda.  trust me, I know my way around the terminal ;)
[09:23] <Qu1ckFr0st> im supposed to change my repositories from hoary to breezy, i have my package manager open... where do I find these things I'm supposed to change?
[09:23] <rmjb> arup: even in xmms I'm getting audio from my back speakers
[09:23] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <unfknblvbl> NineTeen67Comet: i jsut type sudo reboot
[09:23] <orbin> Axidus: what app?
[09:23] <Axidus> irc
[09:24] <Axidus> this
[09:24] <mabus_> !flash
[09:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:24] <britt> bgb
[09:24] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: that'll be easiest, it's sort of clunky going through the GUI
[09:24] <NineTeen67Comet> unfknblvbl: yeap tried that .. and it stuck at "Will now Reboot" ..
[09:24] <Axidus> I tried the colors option under settings but I am not getting the right one
[09:24] <Qu1ckFr0st> alright.. so what do i do with that line you gave me earlier??
[09:25] <orbin> Axidus: which irc app though? xchat?
[09:25] <Axidus> oh xchat
[09:25] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: go to the terminal (accessories > terminal, or whereever it is in warty) and then run it, gedit will pop up
[09:25] <Axidus> sorry
[09:25] <NineTeen67Comet> unfknblvbl: Even tried shutdown -r now .. reboot .. via the gui and still .. "Will now reboot" ..
[09:25] <arup> rmjb: did you do anything extra, configuratiin etc?
[09:25] <rmjb> I'm trying to remember now...
[09:25] <orbin> Axidus: should be foreground ...
[09:25] <surimi-> I search a local font browser/installer pour Gnome environnement or KDE :/
[09:25] <Gargoyle> Hi, anybody knows how to add mp3 support for Amarok?
[09:25] <Axidus> ok
[09:25] <surimi-> like Adobe Type Manager or Font Fitting Room http://www.apolisoft.com/ffr/index.php
[09:25] <Axidus> not working
[09:25] <Flannel> !tell Gargoyle about mp3
[09:25] <mybers> to anyone: if you have setup a DHCP already, would you still need to setup iptables to share your internet?
[09:26] <Flannel> Gargoyle: it's in there ;)  Kubuntu instructions
[09:26] <Axidus> still my output on my screen is gray..is that the norm?
[09:26] <orbin> Axidus: testing
[09:26] <unfknblvbl> NineTeen67Comet: sorry nfi
[09:26] <orbin> ah, it's not fg, sorry
[09:26] <glick> mybers, iptables is a firewall
[09:26] <Gargoyle> ok,i'll look it up, thanks
[09:26] <surimi-> somethings similar exist in linux world ?
[09:26] <glick> dhcp has nothing to do with a firewall
[09:27] <cafuego> mybers: Yes, that rule I gave you is to ensure you don't send data with LAN ip addresses onto your ISPs link. It wouldn't go anywhere (and your ISP might not like it)
[09:27] <NineTeen67Comet> unfknblvbl: no prob, I'm lost on this one .. no errors, nothing to go off .. just stops .. back to trying to rip some DVDs for the kids ..
[09:27] <Qu1ckFr0st> it opened a text document... ?
[09:27] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: right, that's your apt configuration, change all the hoary to breezy in that document, save it, then reopen synaptic
[09:28] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st: this command should change your sources.list without much trouble:  sudo sed -e 's/\shoary/breezy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:28] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: er, or whatever the page tells you, but that's a much easier way to change everything to breezy, than click a bunch of things
[09:28] <mybers> oic..tnx cafuego..although im still trying to test abit...wats seems i havent done yet...
[09:28] <Gargoyle> !help
[09:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:29] <Axidus> Do anyone know of any C ++ IRC channels
[09:29] <orbin> Axidus: ask in #xchat ... i forgot which text event it is
[09:29] <Flannel> Axidus: ##C++
[09:29] <Qu1ckFr0st> it wont authenticate
[09:29] <Axidus> Orbin/Flannel thanks
[09:29] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: authenticate? you're getting warnings in the terminal?
[09:29] <lyy> muahhaa:D
[09:30] <Qu1ckFr0st> yeah
[09:30] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: don't worry about those
[09:30] <lyy> i didn't know getting on ubuntu was so easy
[09:30] <orbin> Axidus: yw
[09:30] <Qu1ckFr0st> well it has me type in my password... then when i do it fails to authenticate
[09:30] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: and doesn't open the editor?
[09:30] <lyy> Qu1ckFr0st: what fails?
[09:31] <Qu1ckFr0st> well it opens a text doc
[09:31] <Qu1ckFr0st> but it's blank
[09:31] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: oh,  alright.  I see how that would be confusing then
[09:31] <NuclearWaffle> (lyy): Not if you have an ATI card like I do.
[09:31] <NuclearWaffle> Lol.
[09:32] <lyy> uh...
[09:32] <NuclearWaffle> Took me an hour to get the effin' X to work.
[09:32] <NuclearWaffle> >.>
[09:32] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: close synaptic, and try again, it might have a lock on the file
[09:34] <Qu1ckFr0st> woah
[09:34] <Qu1ckFr0st> it didnt warn me, or ask me for a pass
[09:34] <Qu1ckFr0st> but it still opened a blank doc
[09:34] <cafuego> (Though that's ATI;'s fault, not Ubuntus)
[09:34] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: that's because you've used it in the past 15 minutes
[09:34] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: what command are you using?
[09:35] <Qu1ckFr0st> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: alright, go to /etc/apt/ (cd /etc/apt)
[09:35] <NuclearWaffle> What's gksudo?
[09:35] <Flannel> gksudo is sudo, for graphical programs
[09:35] <Beta_M> NuclearWaffle:  it's sudo for gnome
[09:35] <NuclearWaffle> Oh.
[09:36] <Flannel> kdesu (kde) and gksu (xubuntu) are it's counterparts
[09:36] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, synaptic is closed now, right?
[09:36] <NuclearWaffle> Ah.
[09:36] <Qu1ckFr0st> yeah its closed
[09:36] <NuclearWaffle> I'll stick with my sudo. >.>
[09:36] <Beta_M> you can do regular sudo also, but it's bad, as i believe it doesn't do everything correctly
[09:36] <NuclearWaffle> Oh.
[09:36] <Flannel> NuclearWaffle: if you're using sudo on graphical programs, you can screw up your home dir
[09:37] <NuclearWaffle> How so?
[09:37] <Flannel> Writing things to your home dir with root perms
[09:37] <Qu1ckFr0st> the text file being opened is sources.list'  ... is that different from sources.list
[09:37] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: yeah, no '
[09:37] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, you wouldn't happen to know how to use vi, or nano?
[09:37] <|thunder> will save your settings to /home/root/ instead of /home/you
[09:37] <NuclearWaffle> Oh.
[09:38] <NuclearWaffle> Does this apply only to DE's or what?
[09:38] <Flannel> NuclearWaffle: and once stuff is written with root perms, your normal user stuff can't overwrite
[09:38] <Qu1ckFr0st> no i dont know
[09:38] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: no ' at the end
[09:38] <Gargoyle> OK I got it.  We need libxine-extracodecs to support mp3 for amarok
[09:38] <NuclearWaffle> (Qu1ckFr0st): You're better off using vim, or gvim if it's your first time.
[09:38] <Flannel> Psh.  No, use nano.
[09:38] <NuclearWaffle> Vi's got a monstrous learning curve. xP
[09:38] <Flannel> for a text editor, use nano.  no reason to use *vi*
[09:38] <NuclearWaffle> Nano's OK, but I'm still impartial to vim.
[09:39] <Flannel> NuclearWaffle: but it has NO learning curve, no need to be a sadist ;)
[09:39] <Qu1ckFr0st> T.T
[09:39] <Elektrochelovek> as there is no reason to be fast;)
[09:39] <Qu1ckFr0st> i need to update rrr
[09:39] <NuclearWaffle> Haha.
[09:39] <mutk> Flannel, Unless your are a vi Uber user. In that case vi is the only choice..
[09:39] <Flannel> mutk: if they're a vi user and are comfortable, they'll realise that nano is just an editor, and inline substitute it for nano in my commands ;)
[09:39] <Gonzo> does it requires a special plugin for vlc to read 8gig dvds?
[09:39] <lyy> i use vim
[09:40] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: type it again, this time don't use a ' at the end
[09:40] <glick> wow that book ubuntu unleashed is a big flop
[09:40] <glick> what a disappointment
[09:40] <Qu1ckFr0st> i dont use a ' at the end, but the file opened has a ' at the end.
[09:40] <lyy> glick: what's wrong with it?
[09:40] <PathagenX> My drunkeness is minor -  My intellect is great.
[09:41] <Elektrochelovek> where xserver-xorg packages installs to? GDM complains that there is no X server.
[09:41] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: alright, we're going to use nano instead, so.  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:41] <lyy> Qu1ckFr0st: i think he meant ~, not '
[09:41] <glick> its very superficial, doesnt cover anything in depth, doesnt even mention packaging in ubuntu
[09:41] <|thunder> Gonzo, dont think so
[09:41] <NuclearWaffle> What book?
[09:41] <glick> basically it names a ton of browsers you can use
[09:41] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: it'll open inside the terminal, but editing is mostly the same (use arrow keys instead of mouse)
[09:41] <glick> email clients
[09:41] <Gonzo> it really doesn't look able to read the dvd
[09:41] <|thunder> Gonzo, as long as your drive supports it (if it a DVD-R DL)
[09:41] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: it open something with text?
[09:41] <glick> the basics of setting up ftp, smtp, ssh, sql servers
[09:41] <EvilGuru> I have a problem with abiword, when I go insert symbol I see a table of symbols but no scroll bar so I only see up to G
[09:42] <glick> and thats it
[09:42] <lyy> glick: most books are like that. you have to get ubuntu and dig for the info yourself.
[09:42] <NuclearWaffle> Nano's easy to use.
[09:42] <Gonzo> it should...
[09:42] <glick> yeah
[09:42] <glick> i guess
[09:42] <unfknblvbl> is there a way to remove gnome-games with having to remove ubuntu-desktop [according to package manager..]  ?
[09:42] <ucordes> hey there. i need an rss reader which sends my news directly to the desktop. what can you suggest?
[09:42] <Gonzo> its a fairly recent dvd druve
[09:42] <|thunder> nano is like dos edit
[09:42] <lyy> nano's just another name for pico i think
[09:42] <Gonzo> drive
[09:42] <glick> the debian 3.1 bible is MUCH better
[09:42] <NuclearWaffle> apt-get remove?
[09:42] <Flannel> lyy: no, nano is a pico clone, since pico isn't Free
[09:42] <lyy> Flannel: really??
[09:42] <PathagenX> lyy, yeap
[09:42] <Flannel> lyy: yep.  that's why we have no pico and no pine, (nano and mutt)
[09:42] <lyy> pico is a part of uw's pine
[09:43] <Qu1ckFr0st> in the terminal it says (gedit:29312)
[09:43] <dibblego> is there a wiki page that describes how you roll back a kernel upgrade with the live CD?
[09:43] <lyy> oh i see
[09:43] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: oh, close gedit, sorry
[09:43] <Qu1ckFr0st> then it opens the blank doc sources.list'
[09:43] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: then type that
[09:43] <lyy> i went to school at UW
[09:43] <pennypacker> emacs & vi are horrible
[09:43] <lyy> so i wouldn't know the situation
[09:43] <|thunder> if you run pico is just starts nano.  ctrl-g  proves it.
[09:43] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, make sure all gedit are closed, and synaptic too
[09:43] <Qu1ckFr0st> type what?
[09:43] <Gonzo> and vlc crashes...
[09:43] <NuclearWaffle> (pennypacker): Then what would you use?
[09:43] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: acutally, lets do this,
[09:43] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: cd /etc/apt
[09:43] <pennypacker> nano/gedit
[09:44] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: then ls
[09:44] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, Flannel: you might want to give gedit another shot
[09:44] <omar> Hey guys, I need to uninstall mozilla web browser
[09:44] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: do you see a sources.list?
[09:44] <omar> how is that
[09:44] <NuclearWaffle> (omar): apt-get remove mozilla, I think?
[09:44] <Flannel> you'll want a --purge on that too, probably
[09:44] <NuclearWaffle> (pennypacker): I'd go vim as first choice, nano as second.
[09:44] <omar> nop
[09:44] <Qu1ckFr0st> yeah i do
[09:44] <omar> doesn't work
[09:45] <NuclearWaffle> What's the error?
[09:45] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: alright, try this then: sudo nano sources.list
[09:45] <omar> omar@omar:~$ sudo apt-get remove mozilla
[09:45] <omar> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[09:45] <omar> Creando rbol de dependencias... Hecho
[09:45] <omar> El paquete mozilla no esta instalado, no se eliminar
[09:45] <omar> 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarn, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.
[09:45] <NuclearWaffle> ><;; I can't read Spanish.
[09:45] <omar> hehe
[09:45] <omar> sorry
[09:46] <NuclearWaffle> Are you root?
[09:46] <omar> the programm is not installed
[09:46] <Qu1ckFr0st> i think it opened the text file inside the terminal?
[09:46] <pennypacker> bocadillo con queso
[09:46] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: yep, it did.  Do you see stuff? or is it blank?
[09:46] <NuclearWaffle> So that message says it's not installed?
[09:46] <Qu1ckFr0st> stuff
[09:46] <JoseStefan> omar, try searching for the package in synaptic, and remove it from there
[09:46] <Qu1ckFr0st> of the, lots of computery text variety
[09:46] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: good.  Ok, you'll use your arrow keys to move around, and then ctrl-O to save, and ctrl-X to exit
[09:46] <omar> it's install
[09:46] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: change all the warty to breezy in that file
[09:46] <omar> I use it
[09:47] <Qu1ckFr0st> replace hoary with breezy right?
[09:47] <omar> synaptic?
[09:47] <NuclearWaffle> Try removing it as root or a su.
[09:47] <omar> lets try
[09:47] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, and double check :P dont miss any
[09:48] <lyy> anyone running the ubuntu vmware ?
[09:48] <lyy> i'm wondering if it comes with a firewall or not cuz i can't seem to ssh into it
[09:48] <Qu1ckFr0st> do I change it through out the entire document?
[09:48] <Flannel> omar: chances are it's not 'mozilla' alone, it's 'mozilla-suite' or something
[09:48] <NuclearWaffle> What's vmware? >.>
[09:48] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: yeah, each instance of warty to dapper
[09:48] <Qu1ckFr0st> what about the lines that are in plain english that being with ##
[09:48] <lyy> NuclearWaffle: www.vmware.com
[09:48] <pennypacker> at last i found the perfect modeline yeeha
[09:49] <JoseStefan> Flannel, not dapper!
[09:49] <PathagenX> NuclearWaffle, an emulator.
[09:49] <lyy> NuclearWaffle: ever heard of microsoft's virtual pc?
[09:49] <omar> flannet: I have firefox, and swiftch and mozilla web browser, but I just need to use firefox
[09:49] <lyy> NuclearWaffle: vmware is like that, but better i think.
[09:49] <PathagenX> lyy, It is better of he hasn't.
[09:49] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, you can skip the lines that begin with ##, aka comments
[09:50] <Qu1ckFr0st> actually im changing Hoary (what it is currently) to Breezy
[09:50] <Qu1ckFr0st> correct?
[09:50] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: er, yeah.  Breezy, sorry.
[09:50] <lyy> vmware is going to be the future i think
[09:50] <PathagenX> Dammit. My head has detached itself from my physical body again...
[09:50] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, but then you'll have outdated comments :(
[09:50] <mutk> Xen is the future..
[09:50] <Qu1ckFr0st> loll
[09:50] <omar> flannel:  I have firefox, and swiftch and mozilla web browser, but I just need to use firefox
[09:50] <PathagenX> mutk, Xen is already the future.
[09:50] <omar> flannel: my disc is full
[09:50] <Qu1ckFr0st> JoseStefan: does it even matter if the comments are outdated ? lol
[09:50] <Flannel> omar: which version you using? breezy? dapper?
[09:50] <mutk> PathagenX, Indeed.
[09:51] <lyy> mutk: does xen act like a real emulated pc?
[09:51] <omar> flannel: breezy
[09:51] <|thunder> omar, some other apps depend on mozilla.   liferea for one.
[09:51] <PathagenX> mutk, You just agreed with a drunk man.
[09:51] <NuclearWaffle> Lol.
[09:51] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, 10 years from now you might be reading those comments, and be all confused
[09:51] <Flannel> omar: alright, give me a sec
[09:51] <lyy> it's been a while since i've used xen
[09:51] <NuclearWaffle> Xen's another emulator-type thing?
[09:51] <Flannel> omar: also, you can delete old kernels, if you didn't know.  they're taking up space
[09:51] <mutk> Para-virtualisation.
[09:51] <Qu1ckFr0st> JoseStefan: just hope you arent in this channel 10 yrs from now
[09:51] <mutk> And Hyper-visor
[09:51] <omar> flannel: how to do that
[09:52] <mutk> NuclearWaffle, It is..
[09:52] <PathagenX> omar, Mozilla is required but onl;y for its libraries. You can get lucky and indeed, with Ubuntu you usually are, that most are compiled against firefox lib.
[09:52] <NuclearWaffle> OK...
[09:52] <omar> flannel: I can uninstall everything of mozilla no problem, 'cos I can get back my firefox from the adept
[09:52] <Qu1ckFr0st> what about this first line
[09:52] <Qu1ckFr0st> command thingy..
[09:52] <PathagenX> omar, Leave Mozilla
[09:52] <lyy> mutk: can you move zen guest hosts around like you do vmware guest hosts?
[09:52] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st: what line?
[09:53] <omar> flannel: how my friend
[09:53] <Qu1ckFr0st> says ubuntu 5.04_Hoary Hedgehog_   -   Release 1386
[09:53] <Flannel> omar: ah, mozilla is the meta package, but you'll need to remove the components as well
[09:53] <mutk> lyy, Live migration is a feature yes.
[09:53] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: that's just a comment, you can update it if you'd like
[09:53] <omar> flannel: great, how
[09:53] <PathagenX> omar, Saying you don't need Mozilla is like saying "I don't have multiple monitors, so I don't need xinerama!
[09:53] <Flannel> omar: you can use adept, to remove them all.
[09:53] <omar> flannel: gotcha
[09:54] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st: does it begin with # ?
[09:54] <Shishogan> How do I configure internet on a wireless network?
[09:54] <lyy> mutk: cool. what does live migration involve? just copy of files? that's all you need for vmware. copy two files. well, one of them is really big
[09:54] <omar> flannel: is not there, I tried it already
[09:54] <Flannel> omar: and, search for 'linux-image' and remove the older ones (lower versions) but don't delete your newest one!
[09:54] <Qu1ckFr0st> the whole line is deb cdrom:[ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_  -  Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main $
[09:54] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: that's your CDrom repository, comment that out.  (add a # to the beginning)
[09:54] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st: add the # prefix to it, so it becomes a comment
[09:55] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: or, delete it entirely
[09:55] <PathagenX> someone has to explain the addition of CDROM as a repo to me, later.
[09:55] <Flannel> omar: 'mozilla' installs 'mozilla-browser' 'mozilla-mailnews' and 'mozilla-psm', remove those
[09:55] <JoseStefan> PathagenX, synaptic can do that very easily
[09:55] <Qu1ckFr0st> ok
[09:55] <Qu1ckFr0st> i just hit ctrl-o
[09:56] <Flannel> PathagenX: instead of being from the intarwebs and having to come through a series of tubes, you can use a CDrom as a repository (only the alternate CD, well, and the server CD)
[09:56] <Qu1ckFr0st> and saved the name as sources.list
[09:56] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: yep, then ctrl-x to close
[09:56] <mutk> lyy, Not sure what the mechanism will be exactly. Mostlikey a CLM program and a GUI for those that want it.
[09:56] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: then continue on the howto re: upgrading
[09:56] <Qu1ckFr0st> now what?
[09:56] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: whatever that howto says to do next
[09:56] <lyy> cool
[09:56] <bosco> 
[09:56] <bosco> 
[09:56] <bosco> srry
[09:57] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, Flannel: the breezy notes are a bit old, i suggest we continue guiding
[09:57] <C-O-L-T> how to put a garbage bin to desktop?
[09:57] <lyy> mutk: xen sounds pretty cool. I should reevaulate it.
[09:57] <Flannel> Qu1ckFr0st: basically, 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:57] <PathagenX> someone is talking about my wng?
[09:57] <lyy> http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/Kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.zip <--that's what i'm using right now
[09:58] <mutk> lyy, <RHEL5> has it in Beta at the moment if you are interested..
[09:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> uhh
[09:58] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     (all together)
[09:58] <omar> flannel: let me try thanks
[09:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> i opened my package manager
[09:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> can i just reload
[09:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> and then check all for upgrade
[09:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> now?
[09:58] <JoseStefan> Qu1ckFr0st, apt-get is prefered, for release upgrades
[09:58] <lyy> NuclearWaffle: if you want to try out vmware, download their free vmware player
[09:59] <PathagenX> deb http://cc.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ 	dapper-updates 	main restricted universe multiverse
[09:59] <PathagenX> deb http://cc.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ 	dapper 		main restricted universe multiverse
[09:59] <PathagenX> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/		dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:59] <JoseStefan> !paste > PathagenX
[09:59] <lyy> NuclearWaffle: and then download the vmware zip file i gave above
[09:59] <PathagenX> \where cc = two letter country code
[10:00] <Jtkiefer> hmm, do you think the 403 error problems with the us servers could be bypassed by using firefox to browse to the same directory on a different archive server?
[10:00] <C-O-L-T> how to put garbage bin to dekstop?
[10:00] <PathagenX> JoseStefan, Go
[10:00] <PathagenX> JoseStefan, To
[10:00] <Flannel> Jtkiefer: probably not.  Just change your mirror ;)
[10:00] <PathagenX> JoseStefan, Hell
[10:01] <JoseStefan> !language
[10:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:01] <pennypacker> !hi
[10:01] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[10:01] <chaos_> what's the cmd to open up a browser on a directory?
[10:01] <PathagenX> JoseStefan, !That's not what you said to My Momma.
[10:01] <chaos_> in gnome
[10:01] <JoseStefan> !ops
[10:01] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:02] <PathagenX> v.v Too young..
[10:02] <PathagenX> SOMEONE FUCKING CHANGE THAT!
[10:02] <Flannel> !language
[10:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:03] <unfknblvbl> oo a secret op ?
[10:03] <rob> :)
[10:03] <botxj> i love family!
[10:03] <Che-Guevara> hehe
[10:03] <botxj> yay for family :)
[10:03] <fildo> ubuntu family
[10:03] <botxj> a family of 846 clients
[10:03] <chaos_> what's the cmd to open up a browser on a directory?
[10:03] <JoseStefan> ok, where were we?
[10:04] <unfknblvbl> no a family of 846 siblings ^^
[10:04] <botxj> :)
[10:04] <unfknblvbl> how do you register your nickname ?
[10:05] <Flannel> unfknblvbl: /msg nickserv help register
[10:05] <unfknblvbl> cheerz
[10:05] <The_cobra666> Hi all
[10:06] <The_cobra666> Any one around?
[10:06] <ajopaul> chaos_, nautilus <dir name>
[10:06] <chaos_> thanks
[10:06] <Flannel> chaos_: and, don't abuse !ops
[10:07] <chaos_> thanks1op
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> how to put garbage bin  to desktop
[10:07] <The_cobra666> I've got a problem with the 64bit version, It loads the drivers, then goes black with a dot in the left corner then black again and cd-rom loads file's but no image, then stops and then the pc hangs any thought's?
[10:07] <chaos_> I didnt use !op
[10:07] <The_cobra666> Can't install ubuntu
[10:07] <Che-Guevara> C-O-L-T use the gnome settings manager thing i cant remember what its called
[10:07] <Che-Guevara> hold on
[10:08] <The_cobra666> hold on against chaos or me :D
[10:09] <Flannel> chaos_: oh, right.  sorry, got wires crossed there.
[10:09] <chaos_> it's late :)
[10:09] <The_cobra666> It's late ?
[10:09] <The_cobra666> it's 10:09 here in belgium :D
[10:09] <chaos_> 2 am here
[10:09] <The_cobra666> AM
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> Che-Guevara: give me some help cause I don't know where to search, I thought i just put a link to my desktop but I don't know where trash  files are kept
[10:09] <pennypacker> yes. goodmornin
[10:10] <Che-Guevara> C-O-L-T http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t16.htm
[10:10] <unfknblvbl> LIES! its 16:11
[10:10] <chaos_> is linux more popular in europe?
[10:10] <The_cobra666> no idea
[10:10] <The_cobra666> I think :D
[10:10] <corvus> bonjour
[10:10] <The_cobra666> I'm from Belgium
[10:10] <The_cobra666> bonjour :D
[10:10] <Rookie-> !fr
[10:10] <The_cobra666> Rather speak dutch not french :D
[10:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:10] <JoseStefan> chaos_ there was a usage map, somewhere on the ubuntu website
[10:10] <corvus> je suis nouveau sur linux, et je cherche un logiciel pour extraire un fichier .rar
[10:10] <pennypacker> ja
[10:10] <chaos_> !fr
[10:11] <Rookie-> !be
[10:11] <brian98> what can you do when you live in a show ;)
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <brian98> what can you do when you live in a shoe ;)
[10:11] <JoseStefan> !rar > corvus
[10:11] <brian98> I meant
[10:11] <corvus> oui ?
[10:11] <unfknblvbl> !Jamaican
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Jamaican - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <JoseStefan> !info unrar
[10:11] <chaos_> corvus is new to linux and wants to extract .rars...
[10:11] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:11] <Rookie-> !fr > corvus
[10:11] <C-O-L-T> Che-Guevara: thanks
[10:11] <Che-Guevara> np
[10:11] <Elektrochelovek> !xserver-xorg
[10:11] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[10:13] <unfknblvbl> are they going to make a GUI component to changing xorg.conf settings ?
[10:13] <glick> hey is the debian maintainers guide still applicable to ubuntu?
[10:13] <unfknblvbl> or is it dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ftw ?
[10:13] <Flannel> glick: more or less
[10:14] <chaos_> ubuntu is based on debian
[10:14] <glick> Flannel, what does that mean
[10:14] <Flannel> glick: ubuntu debs and debian debs are identical
[10:14] <JoseStefan> unfknblvbl, if you choose to configure that package within synaptic, it will use GUI
[10:14] <unfknblvbl> oh.. what package would that be JoseStefan ?
[10:15] <Flannel> glick: but, there may be some policy differences between the projects (socially, not technically), believe theres a wiki page about maintaining
[10:15] <JoseStefan> unfknblvbl, xserver-xorg
[10:15] <unfknblvbl> :-$
[10:15] <C-O-L-T> is there any statistics on the net about how many people use linux in the world?
[10:15] <Rookie-> about 24%
[10:16] <Rookie-> ms has a market of about 68-70%
[10:16] <chaos_> I like linux a lot
[10:16] <pennypacker> }=()
[10:17] <JoseStefan> Ubuntu World Map: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWorldWide
[10:17] <unfknblvbl> understand linux will rise
[10:17] <chaos_> africa has computers?
[10:17] <unfknblvbl> lol
[10:18] <lyy> that's a very ignorant remark :D
[10:18] <lyy> it's not all straw huts you know
[10:18] <ajopaul> the question is how many use non-linux os by choice
[10:18] <chaos_> I guess... is it straw huts and 486's?
[10:18] <unfknblvbl> ubuntu has an african soul - respekt !
[10:18] <ceari> mostly south africa though
[10:18] <ajopaul> and the answer is many ., bcoz they dont have a choice
[10:19] <Flannel> JoseStefan: when people add themselves/I think immediately
[10:19] <Rookie-> to understand linux is to understand how hardware and software works, and the permissions, and networking and security ....
[10:19] <unfknblvbl> lol europe hoggin all the computers
[10:19] <Flannel> guys, this conversation belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:19] <Volvo> can i run Ubuntu 6.06 LTS which is installed on a separate H.D.D,  via Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition VirtualPC 2004 ?
[10:19] <chaos_> im in yer base chownin yer filez
[10:20] <Flannel> Volvo: believe you need to install it inside the virtual PC, but I'm not familiar with it
[10:20] <pennypacker> after 3 years i final have no more lack borders around my screen
[10:20] <pennypacker> b
[10:20] <pennypacker> at last
[10:20] <chaos_> what do you mean penny?
[10:21] <surface> Volvo i think via qemu u can, not very sure with virtualpc
[10:21] <brendonjt> hey all what is the command to make a terminal su
[10:21] <pennypacker> the image did not fill the monitor screen entirely
[10:21] <unfknblvbl> sorry Flannel, its just that one guy was carrying on so i left the channel
[10:21] <chaos_> sudo su
[10:21] <Flannel> chaos_: no.
[10:21] <Flannel> brendonjt: sudo -i
[10:21] <surface> brendonjt:  sudo su -
[10:21] <chaos_> :(
[10:21] <Flannel> surface: no.  no need to use su, at all.
[10:21] <surface> brendonjt:  type ur passwd then
[10:22] <surface> Flannel:  oh? how?
[10:22] <surface> oh
[10:22] <Volvo> Flannel, its already installed on  a separate Hard Drive, and now I am about to sell that PC but will retain the H.D.D
[10:22] <chaos_> just use sudo... I guess thats what they do here
[10:22] <Fraj> is ubuntu good for a beginner?
[10:22] <Volvo> vmware ?
[10:22] <lyy> Fraj: yes
[10:22] <Rookie-> ubuntu is the easiest for a beginner
[10:22] <surface> Flannel:  alright, its the same
[10:22] <unfknblvbl> Fraj: from a beginners perspective: yes
[10:22] <unfknblvbl> i found that simplyMEPIS is easier for beginners
[10:22] <brendonjt> Flannel,  i have a terminal in the launcher  but i typed it in the command  and it wouldn't load?
[10:22] <Flannel> Volvo: right, ... maybe I don't understand the question.  but I think to use stuff from VPC, you need to install it via VPC.  I've never used it, I may be wrong.
[10:23] <Rookie-> best ... ? thats OT
[10:23] <surface> Volvo:  vmware i don't think it can run raw partition, only qemu
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> It seems from the map at ubuntu.com that Europe is the leader in using linux :D
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> I am a European too :D
[10:23] <Shishogan> how do I create a route for a wireless connection?
[10:23] <brendonjt> Flannel: sudo -i gnome-terminal
[10:23] <pennypacker> eu!
[10:23] <cafuego> C-O-L-T: Well, using Ubuntu anyway.
[10:23] <ceari> or americans are too lazy to sign up
[10:23] <chaos_> there are a lot of people in europe
[10:23] <Flannel> brendonjt: no, gnome-terminal, then once inside sudo -i
[10:23] <surface> volvo my suggestion is to make it dual boot, using grub
[10:24] <cafuego> Relatively, Antarctica uses the most linux machines per person.
[10:24] <unfknblvbl> lol
[10:24] <pennypacker> gj
[10:24] <lyy> C-O-L-T: that's why M$ is trying vrey hard to break into it
[10:24] <cafuego> (penguins playing tuxracer, probably)
[10:24] <C-O-L-T> and from 2007 Romania will join to the European Union :D "Unity in diversity"
[10:24] <chaos_> cafuego, you can't divide by zero
[10:24] <brendonjt> Flannel: ho do i make it do that without typing it in i want to make that terminal su
[10:24] <C-O-L-T> lyy: Although my dreamos is MacOS X, but I don't have a mac
[10:25] <cafuego> chaos_: The human population of antarctica is non-zero.
[10:25] <pennypacker> mac is a form of unix too
[10:25] <Flannel> brendonjt: there's a 'root terminal' option in your accessories already, isn't there?
[10:25] <cafuego> C-O-L-T: Xgl for you, then.
[10:25] <C-O-L-T> lyy: but anyway linux is  a powerful system
[10:25] <chaos_> who would want to live there
[10:25] <Flannel> brendonjt: or, whereever, I don't remember where it is, somewhere ;)
[10:25] <lyy> C-O-L-T: i use windows xp
[10:25] <cafuego> chaos_: researchers
[10:25] <brendonjt> Flannel: nope
[10:25] <lyy> C-O-L-T: and right now, i'm on vmware ubuntu
[10:26] <chaos_> that must be one super fun job
[10:26] <C-O-L-T> cafuego: I have a Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop with Intel Graphics, can Install xgl?
[10:26] <C-O-L-T> lyy: I see
[10:26] <Flannel> brendonjt: let me boot into GUI and take a looksee
[10:26] <cafuego> According to linux counter, Linux usage is highest in Scandianvia, followed by Western Europe.
[10:26] <C-O-L-T> lyy: so you like both of the worlds
[10:26] <cafuego> C-O-L-T: On the proviso that Xgl isn't actually all that stable, probably, yes,
[10:26] <surface> brendonjt:  gksudo gnome-terminal
[10:26] <lyy> C-O-L-T: yeah
[10:26] <C-O-L-T> lyy: :D
[10:26] <lyy> C-O-L-T: if linux had better games i will switch forever
[10:27] <cafuego> C-O-L-T: it wasn't too bad on my laptop with a Radeon U1 (4 years old)
[10:27] <C-O-L-T> lyy: i have both win and linux installed
[10:27] <ceari> When I install packages on the live cd, where do they get saved to?
[10:27] <brendonjt> surface:thanks that is what i wanted
[10:27] <surface> brendonjt:  u can create a shortcut key at gnome, by the way that is the command.
[10:27] <lyy> C-O-L-T: same here
[10:27] <chaos_> ceari, they get installed
[10:27] <C-O-L-T> cafuego: mine one it is new but as far as I know there are no drivers for intel yet
[10:27] <cafuego> lyy: Better games or games with higher 3D detail?
[10:27] <brendonjt> surface:yip i have just done that
[10:27] <cafuego> C-O-L-T: Hmm, shouldn't be long; Intel have said they will be releasing drivers.
[10:27] <lyy> just better games
[10:28] <chaos_> play quake 4
[10:28] <lyy> the games might goto linux, but usually only after a year or two has gone by
[10:28] <cafuego>  3D game.
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> lyy: do you play games? I play too one I have just got Dreamfall The Longest Journey it is kinda cool game :D
[10:28] <brendonjt> offtopic: what are your opinions of edgy
[10:28] <Rookie-> Well, to get better games for linux also means that someone will charge for em ... better games takes more time and more ppl to make ... so better games will prolly not be free
[10:28] <sasuke> hi
[10:28] <cafuego> FPS games are hardly "good".
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> cafuego: I see
[10:28] <Flannel> brendonjt: might be better to ask in #ubuntu+1, more people usng it there
[10:28] <sasuke> does anyone know how to start a service in terminal?
[10:28] <cafuego> They look pretty, but gameplay is extremely boring.
[10:28] <unfknblvbl> when ever there is a market for something ppl will generally try to financially gain from that
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> cafuego: anyway thanks
[10:29] <SpComb> cafuego: opinions opinions
[10:29] <lyy> sasuke: which service?
[10:29] <chaos_> I would never expect a game to be free, I just want to be ABLE to play without Cedega
[10:29] <brendonjt> Flannel: yip i know i am using it myself got rid of dapper
[10:29] <sasuke> lyy telnet
[10:29] <C-O-L-T> cafuego: when we gonna get  a stable xgl
[10:29] <C-O-L-T> ?
[10:29] <lyy> sasuke: why use tellnet?
[10:29] <unfknblvbl> whihc is why redhat and novell has versions of linux that you have to pay for
[10:29] <cafuego> lyy: pingus, scorched3d, wormux, ppracer, wesnoth
[10:29] <lyy> sasuke: are you trying to connect to another system?
[10:29] <sasuke> got ssh running, just want to try telnet
[10:29] <cafuego> bzflag
[10:29] <pennypacker> cedega/wine -->all horrible
[10:29] <lyy> sasuke: then yo0u need to install telnet server, do you have that?
[10:29] <Rookie-> try crossover
[10:29] <cafuego> not to mention frozen bubble, supertux...
[10:29] <sasuke> gonna let some workyes got that installed
[10:29] <C-O-L-T> Can I access iTunes music store from Linux?
[10:29] <lyy> sasuke: why wouuld you want telnet though? really, it's unsafe
[10:29] <sasuke> need to run the service for it
[10:30] <Flannel> brendonjt: go to alacarte, then system tools, there should be a 'root terminal' there, just unchecked by default
[10:30] <brendonjt> chaos_:there is alot of windows games for linux  you just need the windows binarys, so ifyou can get the installer  you just need a mate with the windows version
[10:30] <chaos_> I need to go to sleep guys
[10:30] <chaos_> l8s
[10:30] <C-O-L-T> chaos_: good night
[10:30] <lyy> sasuke: well if you got it installed..
[10:30] <brendonjt> Flannel: it is not there in edgy
[10:31] <arvind> .
[10:31] <sovieticool> please give me the link to put in repositorie to dowload wine
[10:31] <Flannel> brendonjt: eh, you didn't specify you were in edgy.  bah.
[10:31] <lyy> sasuke: cd to /etc/init.d
[10:31] <lyy> and look for telnetd
[10:31] <brendonjt> Flannel: sorry bud
[10:31] <sovieticool> or someone to tell a link of a tutorial to install it
[10:31] <C-O-L-T> Who can give me a cool theme for linux
[10:31] <JoseStefan> !wine
[10:31] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:31] <Flannel> brendonjt: just do sudo /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[10:31] <lyy> you can usually do ./telnetd from /etc/init.d
[10:31] <C-O-L-T> I know www.gnome-look.org, but they are not just complete themes
[10:32] <Flannel> brendonjt: or, whatever it's called in edgy
[10:32] <sasuke> lyy its gone strangly, it was there last night
[10:32] <Pensacola> how to update firefox to the latest version?
[10:32] <brendonjt> Flannel: got it  just had to put gksudo  in front of gnome-terminal
[10:32] <arvind_> i cannot access system>>networking it says starting networking and doent start and also cant use synaptic manager... same thing happens.....
[10:32] <lyy> sasuke: what do you use telnet for again?
[10:32] <myesterious> hi all
[10:32] <pennypacker> for hacking
[10:32] <sasuke> just for something diffrent
[10:32] <sasuke> its just for a while
[10:32] <sasuke> then going back to ssh
[10:32] <Volvo> can i read my linux files on windows OS ?
[10:33] <lyy> sasuke: just so you know, if you use tlenet, it's very easy for people to sniff your network traffic and get login names and passwords.
[10:33] <myesterious> Which 'auto free memory program' that u like ?
[10:33] <sasuke> eh
[10:33] <unfknblvbl> Volvo: depends on which files
[10:33] <Gasten> Volvo: yes you can read files on your NTFS-partition.
[10:34] <Gasten> Volvo: And your FAT32.
[10:34] <lyy> sasuke: it must be something very important to yhou to not use ssh and use only telnet
[10:34] <Volvo> unfknblvbl, basically sound files, movie files , some pictures bit of codding documents and so n so
[10:34] <sasuke> nothing
[10:34] <sasuke> i've got people using ssh also
[10:34] <sasuke> just want to try telnet
[10:34] <pennypacker> ssh=encrypted telnet
[10:34] <JoseStefan> ssh > telnet
[10:34] <Flannel> sasuke: they're exactly the same usage wise ;)  just one's encrypted the other isnt
[10:34] <Rookie-> if any wants to try, let em try and learn ...
[10:34] <surface> volvo yes u can, use samba
[10:34] <arvind_> i cannot access system>>networking it says starting networking and doent start and also cant use synaptic manager... same thing happens.....  it says starting administrative application and then vanishes
[10:34] <Gasten> Volvo: Thou, there might be a risk when you wrte (save) to the ntfs-partition, but it's small.
[10:35] <lyy> sasuke: try sudo telnetd
[10:35] <brendonjt> hey if say my parents in another city 250k  away  and they arerunning ubuntu  can i use vnc over the internet to admin  there machine for them
[10:35] <lyy> is there a /sbin/telnetd ?
[10:35] <unfknblvbl> Volvo:  as Gasten put it, you can read anything provided you have the software to read that type of file
[10:35] <sasuke> telnetd: comand not found
[10:35] <lyy> do as root
[10:35] <Volvo> unfknblvbl, Gasten ok thanks
[10:35] <BC> hello
[10:35] <sasuke> lyy nope
[10:35] <Flannel> brendonjt: yes.  or you can just do xforwarding, without the need for vnc installation
[10:35] <surface> arvind_:  ifconfig
[10:35] <lyy> there's no /sbin/telnetd?
[10:35] <unfknblvbl> np
[10:35] <BC> hi all
[10:35] <sasuke> nope
[10:35] <surface> arvind_:  check and see are ur interface up
[10:35] <Che-Guevara> TITLE : Ubuntu Linux for Non-Geeks: A Pain-Free, Project-Based, Get-
[10:35] <Che-Guevara> Things-Done Guidebook [ILLUSTRATED]  (Paperback)
[10:35] <lyy> there's no /sbin/telnet* ?
[10:35] <Che-Guevara> TITLE : Ubuntu Linux for Non-Geeks: A Pain-Free, Project-Based, Get-
[10:35] <Che-Guevara> Things-Done Guidebook [ILLUSTRATED]  (Paperback)
[10:35] <Che-Guevara> TITLE : Ubuntu Linux for Non-Geeks: A Pain-Free, Project-Based, Get-
[10:35] <Che-Guevara> Things-Done Guidebook [ILLUSTRATED]  (Paperback)
[10:36] <Gasten> unfknblvbl: Yea... that is pretty much in a blur, but I think I installed some NTFS-packages.
[10:36] <BC> i've problems with squid.conf
[10:36] <Che-Guevara> Ubuntu Linux for Non-Geeks: A Pain-Free, Project-Based, Get-
[10:36] <Pensacola> I've downloaded the latest firefox but I don't know where to unpack it
[10:36] <Che-Guevara> Things-Done Guidebook [ILLUSTRATED]  (Paperback)
[10:36] <Che-Guevara> Ubuntu Linux for Non-Geeks: A Pain-Free, Project-Based, Get-
[10:36] <Che-Guevara> Things-Done Guidebook [ILLUSTRATED]  (Paperback)
[10:36] <BC> anybody can help me
[10:36] <sasuke> lyy none
[10:36] <unfknblvbl> !spam
[10:36] <brendonjt> Flannel: thought as much as have got my parents convinced to install it they are runnung M$$$ me at the moment
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <BC> how to configure squid.conf
[10:36] <Che-Guevara> oops
[10:36] <Che-Guevara> sorry
[10:36] <lyy> sasuke: do a global find then: find / | grep -i telnet
[10:36] <arvind_> surface:  i see eth0 details and lo details
[10:36] <bmcfarli> hey guys, i ran oemconfig and i lost admin rights
[10:36] <imbrandon> Che-Guevara, dont PASTE please
[10:36] <Gasten> Volvo: You should search the wiki for more info.
[10:36] <bmcfarli> how do i fix that?
[10:36] <lyy> sasuke: it might take a while though
[10:36] <surface> arvind_:  do u know ur gateway? try to ping ur gateway
[10:36] <Che-Guevara> imbrandon yeah i know was an accident
[10:37] <Volvo> Gasten, ok
[10:37] <Che-Guevara> since i did anyone wants the ebook lol
[10:37] <imbrandon> ok try not to do it again in a high traffic room
[10:37] <mutk> sasuke, in_telnetd ?
[10:37] <Che-Guevara> k
[10:37] <arvind_> surface:  my gateway is router and i can ping it
[10:37] <BC> pls help me
[10:37] <surface> arvind_:  alright, ping www.google.com
[10:37] <Rookie-> BC - sudo vim /etc/squid.conf
[10:37] <bmcfarli> Hey guys I ran oem-config and i lost admin rights. Is there a way to fix that?
[10:38] <BC> Rookie: thanks, but i know that
[10:38] <arvind_> surface: it resolves the ip of google and pings it
[10:38] <lyy> sasuke: why do you want to try something that's backwards?
[10:38] <lyy> just curious
[10:38] <sovieticool> unfknblvbl, that link don't help when i try to put the link of repository it say at reload is not avaible
[10:38] <surface> arvind_:  alright, ur internet connection is okay, what is ur problem again?
[10:38] <arvind_> surface i got an error..... wait will type it dowen.....
[10:38] <BC> i mean how to setup squid.conf, so it can be use
[10:38] <unfknblvbl> sovieticool: what link ??
[10:38] <sasuke> lyy something diffrent.
[10:39] <sovieticool> of wine
[10:39] <arvind_> surface:  i cannot access system>>networking it says starting networking and doent start and also cant use synaptic manager... same thing happens.....  it says starting administrative application and then vanishes
[10:39] <lyy> sasuke: why? you sick of how well ssh works? :P
[10:39] <arvind_> surface:  the error i see is this An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-settings-daemon. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[10:39] <unfknblvbl> sovieticool: i haven't given anyone any link ?? :-$
[10:39] <sasuke> no lyy
[10:39] <bmcfarli> Hey guys I ran oem-config and i lost admin rights. Is there a way to fix that?
[10:39] <Flannel> BC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard
[10:39] <sasuke> i've got telnet port forward and ssh port is forward to another computer
[10:39] <arvind_> surface:  the details of the error are as follows Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-bvc
[10:39] <sasuke> and it will be for a long time
[10:39] <arvind_> bvc.ac.in/0/numlock_on": `
[10:39] <arvind_> ' is an invalid character in key/directory names
[10:39] <sovieticool> unfknblvbl, i ask about wine and the ..forget it
[10:39] <Flannel> bmcfarli: you mean the setup new user thing? or the run-before giving to them command?
[10:39] <BC> Flannel: thanks, i'll try
[10:40] <Rookie-> BC - http://www.visolve.com/squid/squid30/contents.php
[10:40] <cocos> hello, i just installed flashplugin-nonfree but when i visit a website whit flah it tells me i need to install the plugin could someone help me? i have no idea what to do.
[10:40] <unfknblvbl> sovieticool: i still got nfi what you on about
[10:40] <lyy> sasuke: so you're testing your forwarding skills ?
[10:40] <BC> Rookie: thanks
[10:40] <sasuke> no
[10:40] <Flannel> cocos: you'll need to install the browser plugin too
[10:40] <surface> arvind_:  system>>networking is for wat purpose?
[10:40] <sovieticool> !wine
[10:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:40] <arvind_> surface:  i want to configure the other ethernet card i have added
[10:40] <Flannel> cocos: firefox-flashplugin-nonfree or, something like that
[10:41] <surface> arvind_:  i see. pci card?
[10:41] <mutk> sasuke, I suspect that Ubuntu has telnet daemon managed by xinetd or inetd..
[10:41] <bmcfarli> setup new user thing
[10:41] <sasuke> mutk lol most probs :P
[10:41] <arvind_> surface:  if you read the above error i have copied and pasted you may see that its more of gnome setting problem
[10:41] <unfknblvbl> ubotu gives the links not me
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gives the links not me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <Flannel> bmcfarli: so, doesn't the new user have admin rights?
[10:41] <bmcfarli> No
[10:42] <bmcfarli> I dont have them...I can't even install anything
[10:42] <cocos> Flannel: are you sure because the wiki restricted page doesnt tell anything about that (http://tinyurl.com/rdzd6)
[10:42] <surface> arvind_:  the error trigger when u click on the system>>networking ?
[10:42] <mutk> sasuke, On other distro's, the daemon is called in.telnetd and is managed using xinetd / inetd super daemon..
[10:42] <arvind_> yes
[10:42] <sasuke> oh okj
[10:42] <arvind_> yes surface
[10:43] <cocos> !flash > cocos
[10:43] <surface> arvind_:  suppose your second interface card should be eth1
[10:43] <arvind_> yes
[10:43] <surface> arvind_:  lspci
[10:43] <surface> to search and see ur card name is there or not.
[10:43] <bmcfarli> anysuggestions?
[10:44] <arvind_> surface:  i see both dlink and realtek card in there
[10:44] <sovieticool> who can tell a good link of a repo to install wine because the deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main is not availble
[10:45] <DualC> God Day, i got serious problems to install GRUB on my SATA drive, after clean install of Ubuntu 6.06-1 DVD dist... any suggestions ?
[10:45] <pennypacker> dont use it
[10:45] <surface> arvind_: try this and see, at terminal, sudo ifup eth1
[10:45] <sasuke> okay i just did apt-get remove telnetd and just did apt-get install telnetd and yet its still not showing in /etc/init.d
[10:45] <Flannel> bmcfarli: reboot, select the rescue mode from the grub menu (you'll need to push escape while booting to bring up the grub menu) then you can make an admin user there
[10:45] <lyy> sasuke: try /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[10:46] <Rookie-> telnetd ... thats a deamon
[10:46] <arvind_> surface:  i got this Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[10:46] <Rookie-> telnet ...
[10:46] <bmcfarli> ok
[10:46] <lyy> telnetd uses port 20 i think
[10:46] <lyy> right?
[10:46] <cocos> hello, i just installed flashplugin-nonfree but when i vissit a website whit flash it tells me i need to install the plugin could someone help me? i have no idea what to do.
[10:46] <sasuke> yep in.telnetd is there
[10:46] <bmcfarli> how exactly do i make an admin account?
[10:46] <bmcfarli> Automated or command?
[10:47] <Flannel> bmcfarli: command, you'll get a root terminal
[10:47] <DualC> anyone got any clue ?
[10:47] <surface> arvind_:  emm... i am not sure, but try to vi or gedit /etc/networking and see whether it is any setting. sorry my ubuntu is not with me now.
[10:47] <surface> !eth
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <bmcfarli> right, do you know the command off hand?
[10:47] <surface> !networkinterface
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networkinterface - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <surface> !networking
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <bmcfarli> !admin
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <lyy> !telnet
[10:47] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[10:47] <Rookie-> !root
[10:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:47] <surface> !network
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <cocos> !sudo > bmcfarli
[10:48] <lyy> !telnet > lyy
[10:48] <lyy> nice! i love you ubotu!
[10:48] <cafuego> !food > mouth
[10:48] <Flannel> !botabuse
[10:48] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:49] <Flannel> wow, food is a real factoid?
[10:49] <DualC> God Day, i got serious problems to install GRUB on my SATA drive, after clean install of Ubuntu 6.06-1 DVD dist... any suggestions ?
[10:49] <Schulze> Hello
[10:49] <JoseStefan> Flannel, no
[10:49] <Flannel> odd, he should've echod it here then.
[10:49] <surface> !grub
[10:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:50] <Schulze> I've got a problem with the Ubuntu Live CD when I start the installation
[10:50] <dark_light> hey, who is affected by the bug described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit ? xchat users? which version?
[10:50] <JoseStefan> Flannel, he gives a private response to the issuer, that he couldnt pipe it, because he doesnt know what it is
[10:50] <Flannel> JoseStefan: errors are private now? interesting
[10:50] <Flannel> dark_light: certain routers
[10:51] <dark_light> Flannel, which
[10:51] <dark_light> ?
[10:51] <DualC> surface: i already got Windows installed....
[10:51] <dark_light> i don't have any router, i have to worry about this?
[10:51] <Schulze> Everythings work fine. But at step 5 he load up the Partition-Programm automatticly and then he stops at 56%. Everytime. I doint know what to do.
[10:51] <Flannel> dark_light: some linksys ones, some dlink ones, I don't really know, one's with built-in firewall things
[10:51] <JoseStefan> Flannel, only when telling the bot to pipe ">"
[10:51] <Rookie-> !dualboot
[10:51] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:51] <Flannel> dark_light: nope
[10:52] <dark_light> Flannel, thanks!
[10:52] <aloon> howdy
[10:53] <aloon> i'm having a hard time getting my fstab to recognize my 250 gig hd which is hdb1 , I just want to use it for storage... can anyone help me with the right fstab line?
[10:54] <surface> !gnome-setting
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-setting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <DualC> God Day, i got serious problems to install GRUB on my SATA drive, after clean install of Ubuntu 6.06-1 DVD dist... IT cant install it self on my MBR .... even Lilo doesent work...
[10:54] <sasuke> root@Sasuke:/usr/sbin# ./in.telnetd
[10:54] <sasuke> telnetd: getpeername: Socket operation on non-socket
[10:54] <sasuke> .
[10:54] <sasuke> doesn't work...
[10:54] <cocos> hello, i just installed flashplugin-nonfree but when i vissit a website whit flash it tells me i need to install the plugin could someone help me? i have no idea what to do.
[10:55] <Nemoder> Is there a gui app to extract .rar files?
[10:55] <sasuke> cocos i've got the same problem
[10:55] <surface> Nemoder:  apt-get install rar
[10:56] <surface> Nemoder:  to extract rar e filename.rar
[10:56] <cocos> sasuke: what kind of pc do you got?
[10:56] <cocos> !w32codecs > cocos
[10:56] <Nemoder> surface: was hoping for a graphical app like file-roller
[10:56] <aloon> surface do you know the best way to get fstab to recognize my other hardrive which is hdb1?
[10:57] <sasuke> !codecs > sasuke
[10:57] <Che-Guevara> if u install unrar then file roller will be able to unrar
[10:57] <Che-Guevara> :)
[10:57] <lyy> cocos: read the directions on how to instlal plugins to firefox
[10:57] <lyy> cocos: it's basically the same as installing java runtime environment
[10:57] <surface> aloon:  set a mount point in fstab, i couldn't remember how, but it is always available info at forum...
[10:58] <surface> aloon:  fstab is a text file, can edit if u donno
[10:58] <sasuke> i've got sun java installed, but it says java ain't installed
[10:59] <Nemoder> Che-Guevara: thanks
[10:59] <aloon> i'm editing it but it says only root can mount
[10:59] <cocos> lyy: the directions of the wiki restricted section you mean?
[11:00] <surface> Nemoder:  wine winrar? i am not sure, if u find one nice, introduce us
[11:00] <eXistenZ> the "dialog" command doesn't work. How can I install it
[11:00] <surface> Che-Guevara:  unrar with encrytions will fail in file-roller
[11:00] <DualC> God Day, i got serious problems to install GRUB on my SATA drive, after clean install of Ubuntu 6.06-1 DVD dist... IT cant install it self on my MBR .... even Lilo doesent work...
[11:01] <surface> Che-Guevara: the best is still rar e, it will prompts u password if needed
[11:01] <Che-Guevara> true
[11:02] <Che-Guevara> but unrar prompts as well i think
[11:02] <Che-Guevara> at least in terminal
[11:02] <Che-Guevara> no idea through file roller though
[11:02] <lyy> i just installed flash. it was pretty easy
[11:03] <lyy> just download the flash .tar.gz file and extract it
[11:03] <lyy> and then run the installer
[11:03] <lyy> and then restart firefox
[11:03] <surface> Che-Guevara:  haha thats i donno. it fails when i wants to unrar at file roller, so i use command line rar :P
[11:03] <Che-Guevara> heh
[11:03] <Che-Guevara> ah there's unrar
[11:03] <Che-Guevara> and unrar-free
[11:03] <surface> lyy congrets, thats should be easy
[11:04] <Che-Guevara> unrar-free cant' handle 3.x formats
[11:04] <Che-Guevara> well that kinda destroyes the point heh
[11:04] <Ackeubu_> hey, quiet in the kernel line in menu.list. does that mean that I get limited output when booting up?
[11:04] <Che-Guevara> yeah
[11:06] <Ackeubu_> I get a usplash not availible for 1280*800 so I get no information at all. it took a very long time to bootup just now. I figured it might be that my drive needed checking.. but i dont know. maybe i should just remove the quiet from that line.
[11:06] <DualC> God Day, i got serious problems to install GRUB on my SATA drive, after clean install of Ubuntu 6.06-1 DVD dist... IT cant install it self on my MBR .... even Lilo doesent work...
[11:07] <obe> hi i'm a new user of ubuntu....I can't to connect to internet.I have a adsl modem: d-link 302t,i use ethernet port.Can you help me?
[11:08] <Ackeubu_> can i remove splash from the kernel line in menu.list?
[11:08] <markeib> how can i create .rar files that are only 700mb each
[11:08] <markeib> ?
[11:08] <Ackeubu_> i guess i can
[11:08] <lyy> obe: howare you able to chat with us then?
[11:08] <lyy> :D
[11:08] <obe> now i'm using microsoft
[11:08] <Ackeubu_> what is single in menu.list
[11:09] <obe> :)
[11:09] <GaiaX11_> Ugh! What a difficult to get here again!
[11:09] <ompaul> obe, click on system -> administration -> networks and "activate" your network card
[11:09] <harrisR> obe, check your admin->networking options
[11:09] <harrisR> is your card active?
[11:09] <obe> yes
[11:09] <Hybernate> hi again what packages do i need to get to get a graphical ui to manage the firewall built in so i can accses my computer from my work with ssh?
[11:09] <ompaul> obe, sorry the word is networking
[11:10] <lyy> obe: i'm using ms now too. but i'm in ubuntu via vmware
[11:10] <obe> ok
[11:10] <deceptacon> when i try to install ubuntu alternate cd, the installation gets stuck at 6% installing base system: retrieving 'locales'
[11:10] <deceptacon> and then it says that its corrupt
[11:10] <deceptacon> what should i do
[11:10] <ompaul> DualC, have you also got an ide hard drive in that machine ?
[11:10] <obe> vmware?
[11:11] <DualC> ompaul: , nope... only 1 Sata, had also tried to apply 1 ATA .. but GRUB will not do the work....
[11:11] <lyy> obe: you don't know what vmware is?
[11:12] <obe> no
[11:12] <obe> tell me
[11:12] <ompaul> deceptacon, check the the CD you are using, there is a self test if the disk is okay then you should look here: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:12] <deceptacon> ompaul: is this selftest available on the alternate install cd ?
[11:12] <ompaul> !away > aSTeK
[11:13] <ompaul> deceptacon, I think so you will see it as you boot it is called disk check if I recall correctly
[11:13] <davin> Hi guys, im running Ubuntu from my Live CD, I have a dualboot Windows XP MCE/Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, My PC had some hard time this morning booting up, it would overheat or lock up during the OS, is there any way of fsck'ing a whole drive?
[11:13] <zaggynl> Hi
[11:14] <davin> or able to fsck an ntfs partition
[11:14] <zaggynl> I just tried out the following tutorial to try out XGL, http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[11:14] <zaggynl> it or I failed
[11:15] <zaggynl> So I tried to clear up the mess I made, but now I can't get my resolution any higher then 640x480
[11:15] <DualC> Can i use diffrent kernels under the Install process ???
[11:15] <rawler> davin: there's a ntfsprogs package.. not sure if it's on the livecd though..
[11:15] <davin> rawler: I can mount my ntfs partition though
[11:15] <rawler> davin: sure you can, but it's not a guarantee that ntfsprogs is included.. :)
[11:15] <ompaul> davin, there is no fsck for ntfs, but you can fsck the partitions on the machine simply don't mount the partitions and do this in a terminal "sudo fdisk -l" to tell you which paritions have linux formats - then "fsck -y /dev/whatever" each partition
[11:16] <obe> bye and tanks
[11:16] <davin> ompaul: what does the -y do?
[11:16] <obe> oups thanks
[11:16] <ompaul> davin force fix
[11:16] <hastesaver> I can't ssh to my machine from outside, although I have sshd set up... it used to work, I changed something, and I don't know what :(
[11:17] <davin> ompaul: okay, I have a compaq presario, I dont like them as when you just touch the back it locks up :/ My DHCP had me this morning so I replugged the NIC and bam this is what happened...
[11:17] <rawler> davin: check if you find "ntfsfix" on the livecd
[11:17] <harrisR> hastesaver, do you have port 22 open?
[11:17] <deceptacon> ompaul, turns out there were corrupt files on the cd, how is this possible when i burnt an .iso from ubuntu.com ? did my burner shit on me
[11:17] <hastesaver> harrisR, I think I do. How do I check?
[11:17] <harrisR> nmap localhost
[11:18] <harrisR> that should show open ports
[11:18] <hastesaver> harrisR, yes, it's open
[11:18] <cafuego> harrisR: Not really.
[11:18] <cafuego> harrisR: it may be open on 127.0.0.1, but not on other interfaces.
[11:18] <davidwinter> hi all. I changed the graphics card in my machine and after restarting the resolution is 640x480... I'm guessing Ubuntu hasn't configured it correctly?
[11:18] <davin> I get nothing when I do fdisk -l
[11:19] <hastesaver> cafuego, so how do I check?
[11:19] <harrisR> have you made sure it is listening on port 22?
[11:19] <cafuego> hastesaver: The only REAL way is to portscan from outside your network or from another machine on the network.
[11:19] <senori> davidwinter: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:19] <hastesaver> harrisR, yes, it's listening
[11:19] <hastesaver> cafuego, and how to portscan?
[11:20] <cafuego> hastesaver: .. or check with 'netstat -nap' to see which IPs it's listinging on.
[11:20] <cafuego> listening
[11:20] <davidwinter> senori: I tried that, but I wasn't too sure what options to select
[11:20] <davin> davidwinter: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa as driver
[11:20] <davin> davidwinter: what graphics card is it?
[11:20] <davidwinter> davin: I have the nvidia drivers already installed
[11:20] <hastesaver> I'm currently ssh-ed to a machine outside, BTW, so I *can* portscan from outside and all that (if I find out how to)
[11:20] <davidwinter> it's a nvidia mx440 128MB DDR SDRAM
[11:20] <davidwinter> 8x AGP
[11:20] <davin> davidwinter: well you should be able to choose nv or nvidia, if theyre not there or dont work use vesa
[11:20] <ompaul> deceptacon, there are md5sum programs out there, find one for your existing OS and run the md5sum program against the downloaded image, this will generate a (checksum) number which should match the downloaded the image, after this if it has failed download it again, this time use bittorrent, it works better for downloading large files
[11:21] <davin> davidwinter: you need nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:21] <rawler> davin: did you find ntfsfix?
[11:21] <deceptacon> ompaul, yes i redownloaded an iso from bittorrent, ill use that .iso now
[11:21] <davin> rawler: not yet, where can I look?
[11:21] <hastesaver> cafuego, it seems to be listening on 22, all right
[11:21] <rawler> it should be available as a command.. :S
[11:22] <hastesaver> cafuego, but how do I check from outside?
[11:22] <cafuego> hastesaver: lemme see, there are some scanning services..
[11:22] <anjo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[11:22] <ompaul> deceptacon, burn it slowly - as an iso image not as a file
[11:22] <davidwinter> davin: it's not listed as needing legacy... http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[11:22] <rawler> davin: if I understand this correct, it's when you try to start _windows_ you run into problems?
[11:23] <davin> davidwinter: okay, then try vesa
[11:23] <davin> rawler: yes, and my ubuntu recovery mode locks up after a time aswell
[11:23] <davin> rawler: did not try the real x gnome ubuntu yet
[11:23] <deceptacon> ompaul im using 1x using dvd decryptor. it should work this time. otherwise my cdrom drive is messed up in the box im trying to install on
[11:23] <deceptacon> in that case, what should i do
[11:23] <viller> did the old Ubuntu installer (non-graphical) use a modified cfdisk for paritioning?
[11:24] <rawler> davin: hmm, thats a bit peculiar.. :S
[11:24] <ompaul> deceptacon, if hardware does not work no amount of software is going to fix it
[11:24] <rawler> what I would do is try to not run a filesystem check, but a disk-surface check..
[11:24] <rawler> what hardware?
[11:24] <davin> rawler: you know, im gnona try all again, ubuntu, recovery mode, and windows, and see if it works, I hate these compaqs, they have alot of hardware vurnabilities(?)
[11:24] <davin> rawler: AMD Athlon 3700+ / 1024 MB RAM / GeForce 6200SE
[11:24] <cafuego> hastesaver: Give this one a try http://scan.sygate.com/probe.html
[11:25] <davin> rawler: brb
[11:26] <[H] 3b0R> anyone here using network-manager?
[11:26] <hastesaver> cafuego, it says "Unable to detect any running services!"
[11:26] <cafuego> [H] 3b0R:  am, on the laptop.
[11:26] <senori> [H] 3b0R: I am.
[11:26] <sovieticool> anyoane fix 5.1 sound to work ?
[11:26] <[H] 3b0R> how do you start the gui?(gnome)?
[11:26] <cafuego> hastesaver: it's being firewalled from the outside then (on the router or modem?)
[11:26] <senori> 'nm-applet --sm-disable'
[11:27] <cafuego> hastesaver: it certainly found my sshd
[11:27] <viller> did the old ubuntu installer use cfdisk?
[11:27] <hastesaver> cafuego, but I haven't changed my router settings at all recently...
[11:28] <Rambo3> whats the ubuntu compiz channel
[11:28] <[H] 3b0R> was that all needed to do, and then i become online?
[11:28] <hastesaver> cafuego, could it be some config file on disk? Like /etc/hosts something?
[11:28] <Seveas> Rambo3, #ubuntu-xgl
[11:28] <cafuego> hastesaver: That shouldn't influence whether ssh is avilable or not.
[11:28] <Rambo3> thx
[11:29] <anjo> this is a joke. 5 hours in this "help" channel and not 1 offer to help
[11:29] <cafuego> anjo: I haven't seen you ask a question.
[11:29] <lyy> anjo: what's your question?
[11:30] <anjo> sry, i'm getting really frustrated (as you can probably tell) :-P
[11:30] <cafuego> hastesaver: Do you use something like an adsl or cable modem?
[11:30] <lyy> give use the question
[11:30] <lyy> us
[11:30] <anjo> Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01 WIFI card
[11:30] <hastesaver> cafuego, yes, ADSL
[11:30] <cafuego> hastesaver: Is port 22 set to forward to your machine's IP address in the adsl modems config?
[11:31] <anjo> it's recognised, drivers loads.. but i can't configure it using the xubuntu tools
[11:31] <hastesaver> cafuego, yes...
[11:31] <si_tech> I need to create /dev/dvb can anyone please help?
[11:31] <DualC> Hmm, now im angry.. the install... does not find my HD...
[11:31] <cafuego> anjo: Is some info printed about `ath0' when you run 'iwconfig' in a terminal ?
[11:32] <lyy> anjo: so it's a question of ..configuration?
[11:32] <S1NGH> hello all
[11:32] <anjo> yes,l configuration problem
[11:32] <S1NGH> last night i was trying to install aiglx with compiz on my ubuntu when after a reboot, x crashs
[11:32] <davin> hey, im in ubuntu now, I think it works, is there any sort of defragmentation application for ubuntu?
[11:33] <S1NGH> aanyone know how i can restore Xorg.conf to a previous state?
[11:33] <cafuego> anjo: I don't use xubuntu, so don't know its tools. You cna add the interface in /etc/network/interfaces though - should work fine, mine does.
[11:33] <S1NGH> without reinstall?
[11:33] <hastesaver> cafuego, it's set to port forward to my machine, AFAICT (by looking at my modem settings page). Is there a way I can check it?
[11:33] <anjo> cafeugo - no mention of ath0 in iwconfig or anywhere
[11:33] <mitrick> S1NGH, u mean to disable xgl thing to put back on normal Xorg
[11:33] <cafuego> anjo: Then the driver isn't loaded. (I think, mine shows up as ath0)
[11:33] <S1NGH> mitrick: i think so...Oo
[11:34] <S1NGH> i cant boot into normal ubuntu
[11:34] <mitrick> ive been looking for a while too
[11:34] <S1NGH> fatal server error, no scrren found
[11:34] <cafuego> anjo: Is `ath_pci' loaded?
[11:34] <davin> SING: if you want to backup/restore your system, use 'dd'
[11:34] <S1NGH> parse on line 151
[11:34] <S1NGH> problem parsing the config file
[11:34] <hastesaver> cafuego, I think I found the bug. /sbin/ifconfig shows my local IP address as 192.168.1.2, but my router is forwarding it to 192.168.1.71. How do I set my thing to 71?
[11:35] <S1NGH> davin: where do i do that command? command line?
[11:35] <cafuego> hastesaver: Edit /etc/network/interfaces and change the IP.
[11:35] <hastesaver> cafuego, wow, /etc/network/interfaces doesn't list any IP address at all
[11:35] <cafuego> hastesaver: if the IP is assigned via DHCP, change the forwarding to 192.168.1.71 on the router.
[11:35] <davin> SINGH: 'sudo dd if=input/file/like/your/harddisk/such/as/dev/sda3 of=/output/file/such/as/a/usbdisk/like/media/usbdisk/image
[11:36] <cafuego> hastesaver: *or* change the interfaces file to use a static IP.
[11:36] <davin> SINGH: and when you want to restore you just reverse it 'sudo dd if=/your/backup of=/your/harddisk'
[11:36] <lyy> anjo: i don't have your card and I don't have wireless so i can't really figure out your config for you :/
[11:36] <nikin> or tell the routers DHCP server to assign 192.168.1.71 to your network cards MAC
[11:36] <hastesaver> cafuego, aha, I remember now. Someone else changed my thing to DHCP instead of a static IP... I'll fix it. Thanks a lot. BTW, is using DHCP better or is using a static IP?
[11:36] <davin> SINGH: just remember when doing output file it needs to be a file and not a directory, like /media/usbdisk, do /media/usbdisk/imagefile
[11:36] <cafuego> hastesaver: Neither, depends on the circumstance.
[11:37] <anjo> cafeugo - no, ath_pci isn't loaded.
[11:37] <S1NGH> davin:shall i do that command in terminal now? as it is..? i am booting from livecd in ubuntu
[11:37] <cafuego> anjo: Aha!
[11:37] <davin> SINGH: no, you can backup your current PC or restore a backup you made with it..
[11:37] <hastesaver> cafuego, and in what way? What circumstances? ...
[11:37] <S1NGH> davin: i have no backups
[11:38] <S1NGH> and my xorg is messed up
[11:38] <DualC> Does .. Ubuntu 6.06 gots trouble with SIl 3112 Sata controllers ?
[11:38] <davin> SINGH: it should make a backup if you change it
[11:38] <cafuego> anjo: Load it manually; that should give you the ath0 device.
[11:38] <davin> SINGH: where is the xorg.conf stored again?
[11:38] <cafuego> DualC: nope.
[11:38] <S1NGH> etc/x11/
[11:38] <anjo> cafeugo - insmod ath_pci >> insmod: can't read 'ath_pci': No such file or directory
[11:38] <davin> SINGH: cd /etc/X11/         then     ls
[11:38] <DualC> cafuego: , ok.. why can i install on such a contoller when?
[11:39] <davin> SINGH: copy it and go to www.pastecode.com and send me the link
[11:39] <cafuego> anjo: humans *never* use `insmod'. They use `modprobe'.
[11:39] <cafuego> DualC: Dunno, mine's fine.
[11:39] <S1NGH> sure
[11:39] <DualC> cafuego: God answer.. :/
[11:39] <anjo> cafgeugo - same result
[11:40] <DualC> cafuego: , i got lots of errors trying to install on my SATA drive.. :/
[11:40] <davin> SINGH: cant you just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:40] <anjo> modprobe ath_pci > FATAL: not found etc etc
[11:40] <davin> SINGH: now that I come to think o fit
[11:40] <another> if i open up a terminal and sudo -i to root, i'm not able to open X apps from there (I get a "cannot connect to X server" error)
[11:40] <cafuego> anjo: AHA!
[11:40] <anjo> :-)
[11:41] <anjo> at least i'm not cursing now :-) thx
[11:41] <S1NGH> davin: i tried that
[11:41] <cafuego> anjo: The driver isn't in Ubuntu normal. "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[11:41] <davin> SINGH: whats the matter with your xorg.conf? wrong driver?
[11:41] <S1NGH> http://www.pastecode.com/4942
[11:41] <S1NGH> no i think i messed it up
[11:41] <cafuego> anjo: That package includes the atheros driver, which will make it work.
[11:41] <S1NGH> when i was puttin gthe necessary thinkgs for aiglx to start
[11:42] <davin> SINGH: ah youre screwed as it didnt make a backup
[11:42] <S1NGH> :S
[11:42] <S1NGH> so wat i do?
[11:42] <davin> SINGH: you should be able to just 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose vesa
[11:42] <davin> SINGH: itll generate a new fresh xorg.conf
[11:42] <S1NGH> shall i reboot then?
[11:42] <S1NGH> becasue i am on livecd
[11:42] <davin> SINGH: yep, you got recovery mode in grub?
[11:42] <S1NGH> yes
[11:43] <davin> SINGH: okay, run that and do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' then choose vesa as driver and choose all the default stuff
[11:43] <S1NGH> davin i have added you, i will try that, if anything goes wrong, will contact u again
[11:43] <davin> SINGH: okay, good luck!
[11:43] <lyy> anjo: i did a search in google for your wifi card and ubuntu and found some hits..you done this yet?
[11:43] <S1NGH> thanks :)
[11:43] <DualC> Having Trouble installing on an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe mobo, XP in disc before.. GRUB cant install on MBR..
[11:43] <cafuego> lyy: Problem solved. Drivers not installed.
[11:43] <DualC> it has SATA drive..
[11:44] <anjo> cefeugo - i need to edit the sources.list first
[11:44] <anjo> i think ...Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-amd64-server
[11:44] <lyy> cafuego: cool :D
[11:44] <|thunder> is there another way to do this ? "lsof -i TCP -r 5" ?
[11:44] <cafuego> lyy: In theory anyway
[11:45] <DrSpin> !samba
[11:45] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:45] <mypapit> !shuttleworth
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shuttleworth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <nd0627> @everyone: how do you make windows xp and ubuntu share files ?
[11:45] <another> is there a way to hide a window in gnome?
[11:46] <|thunder> !samba > nd0627
[11:46] <cafuego> anjo: ANy specific reason for using the -server kernel?
[11:46] <cafuego> anjo: It's marked as -server because it misses stuff like atheros, nvidia, ati support :-)
[11:46] <anjo> intel 2.8D chip, 64bit, dual core EMT
[11:47] <davin> hey, I tried to setup SMB here, I can connect to it using 'smb://ip' but my other PC on my LAN downstairs cant on Windows
[11:47] <chibiace> another: hide?
[11:47] <cafuego> anjo: Just go the -smp kernel then.
[11:47] <anjo> ok, thanks
[11:47] <lynxorgd> NEW game site out now !!! http://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=100628
[11:47] <cafuego> Let me see if I cna find an actual version.
[11:47] <nd0627> ic. thanks thunder !!
[11:47] <nd0627> thanks ubotu !
[11:47] <anjo> it's a Dell SC430 box
[11:47] <another> chibiace, yes, like not show in the taskbar or the screen
[11:47] <another> chibiace, something like how it's done in icewm
[11:47] <lynxorgd> http://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=100628
[11:48] <redleaf>  hi, is there any way to restore the crashed xserver, to restore the applications running ???
[11:48] <chibiace> another: shrug, you could move it to another workspace
[11:48] <|thunder> !spam ? lynxorgd
[11:48] <cafuego> anjo: linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic  I think.
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam ? lynxorgd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <|thunder> !spam > lynxorgd
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <|thunder> arg
[11:48] <cafuego> anjo: No, there appears to be a "linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-xeon"
[11:48] <DualC> !SATA
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SATA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <another> chibiace, yes, that's possible, but i'm looking for something beyond that
[11:49] <cafuego> anjo: Although, on a desktop machine you're actually better off using a 32bit system.
[11:49] <deceptacon> i checked the md5 sum of ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso and it checks out. however, when i go to install, ubuntu complains about .pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.46_i386.deb file fails MD5 check
[11:49] <chibiace> another: well i dunno if its possible.
[11:49] <deceptacon> can someone verify :/
[11:49] <lynxorgd> http://www.cyber-wars.com/?ref=100628
[11:49] <cafuego> anjo: Go with "linux-image-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic" and "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic"
[11:49] <davin> Is there any advantage by using the 64-bit version of Ubuntu on a 64-bit machine? Im running the 32bit one now because most applications run on it?
[11:50] <cafuego> anjo: Sorry, -26- :-)
[11:50] <cafuego> davin: Not on the desktop, no.
[11:50] <anjo> ok thanks :-)
[11:50] <davin> cafuego: okay :-)
[11:50] <cafuego> davin: If you do a lot of heavy computation or say run a busy SQL server, then yes.
[11:50] <another> chibiace, ok, thanks
[11:50] <davin> cafuego: okay, now I know ^_^ thanks!
[11:50] <cafuego> davin: By using 32bit, you also get working java, flash and win32 video.
[11:50] <chibiace> davin: and you'd be setting yourself up for more work
[11:52] <davin> cafuego: wmp embedded videos still dont work with firefox though, easyubuntu is borked
[11:52] <cafuego> davin: wmp is borked
[11:52] <davin> cafuego: hehe yeah ;p
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[11:52] <chibiace> busted fans suck
[11:53] <AZzKikR> wmp is the most crappy format i've ever witnessed
[11:53] <cafuego> chibiace: not has hard as non-busted ones.
[11:54] <chibiace> in firefox
[11:54] <chibiace> doesnt that use totem
[11:54] <S1NGH> davin u here?
[11:54] <davin> SINGH: yeah, good job :-)
[11:54] <chibiace> l
[11:54] <S1NGH> hehe
[11:54] <S1NGH> thanks
[11:54] <davin> SINGH: If I were you I would make a backup of my PC right now
[11:55] <S1NGH> i had used the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh x server-xorg command maybe thats y it didnt work before
[11:55] <zaggynl> Hi I just followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl , but when I login to the new Xgl session, nothing happens for 10 seconds, then I get the gdm login screen back
[11:55] <davin> SINGH: hmm
[11:55] <S1NGH> davin: could u give me the command again for the backup process :P
[11:55] <davin> SINGH: have you got a big usb harddisk?
[11:56] <davin> SINGH: something that could fit all your data on
[11:56] <S1NGH> how big? 1gb?
[11:56] <chibiace> zaggynl: i had that problem
[11:56] <S1NGH> yes, 1gb is enough
[11:56] <S1NGH> reformated last night
[11:56] <zaggynl> chibiace, ah cool, did you resolve the issue?
[11:56] <S1NGH> but then again i can use samba
[11:56] <davin> SINGH: format your usbdisk to ext3 if you havent yet
[11:56] <zaggynl> :o
[11:57] <davin> SINGH: also you should use a livecd to backup your stuff for safety (ive been told that)
[11:57] <chibiace> zaggynl: yes, i installed compiz, and rebooted, messed and it worked after awhile.
[11:57] <deceptacon> what do i need to do to install ubuntu alternate if my cdrom is busted?
[11:57] <S1NGH> i see thanks for the tips ;)
[11:57] <Flannel> !tell deceptacon about install
[11:57] <davin> SINGH: also you should unmount the harddisk/usbdisk when backupping
[11:57] <zaggynl> chibiace, I just followed the tutorial from the wiki, but I only got so far, what should I do?
[11:57] <Flannel> deceptacon: there are alternatives listed on that page to using a CD on that drive
[11:58] <S1NGH> davin: is a jfs partition good?
[11:58] <chibiace> zaggynl: the next page for compiz ?
[11:58] <davin> SINGH: for example, your ubuntu partition is /dev/sda3, and your usbdisk is /dev/sdf do:
[11:58] <DualC> Hey, i get whis errors when i try to install Ubuntu 6.06-1. on my comp...
[11:58] <DualC> [17179655.464000]  ata1: no sense translation for status: 0x51
[11:58] <DualC> [17179655.464000]  ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04
[11:58] <DualC> [17179655.464000]  ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[11:58] <davin> SINGH: sudo dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sda3/imagefile
[11:58] <davin> SINGH: No idea, I would use ext3
[11:58] <DualC> what to doo. ???
[11:58] <zaggynl> chibiace, You mean I should look in the wiki for Compiz?
[11:58] <zaggynl> Ah at the very bottom
[11:58] <S1NGH> i see, but if kinda faster
[11:59] <chibiace> zaggynl: on the xgl one there should be a next page with compiz on it
[11:59] <chibiace> zaggynl: oh i also did some gconf commands from the gentoo-wiki xgl page
[11:59] <davin> SINGH: You can try, but I cant guarantee anything, I used ext3 so I know that works, but if youre feeling bold, try it
[11:59] <zaggynl> chibiace, ah yes
[11:59] <S1NGH> i am using it currently
[11:59] <zaggynl> chibiace, I think I'm stuck at 'This procedure assumes that you have logged into your Xgl server session'
[12:00] <zaggynl> I cannot!
[12:00] <Flannel> zaggynl: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl may be of more assistance
[12:00] <S1NGH> thanks davin for all the help, hitting the study rrom now,
[12:00] <mabus> Where can I get a tutorial on gpg/pgp
[12:00] <S1NGH> take carea everyone,
[12:00] <mabus> !gpg
[12:00] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[12:00] <S1NGH> cheers!
[12:00] <chibiace> zaggynl: did you add the gdm script thing with gnome-session etc?
[12:00] <davin> S1NGH; anytime mate, good luck
[12:00] <zaggynl> Flannel, Okay
[12:00] <zaggynl> chibiace, Yep
[12:00] <zaggynl> chibiace, I'll recheck the files to be sure
[12:01] <Valandil> bonjour
[12:01] <chibiace> zaggynl: anyway sorry i cant be of much help. i didnt do any more then what i said i did. rebooting sometimes is good too
[12:01] <Valandil> j'aurais besoin d'aide, je n'arrive aps a dcompresser un rar
[12:02] <zaggynl> chibiace, I'm already happy I'm not alone in my problem :)
[12:02] <ompaul> DualC, looks like you have hit a kernel bug, please obtain an account on launchpad.net and report same against your version of the kernel and so on
[12:02] <chibiace> zaggynl: go with cgwd too
[12:02] <ompaul> !fr
[12:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:02] <zaggynl> chibiace, cgwd?
[12:03] <chibiace> zaggynl: keep reading those webpages :P
[12:03] <Decadent> is there a program I can use to monitor the bandwidth that each program uses??
[12:03] <deceptacon> Flannel, those pages say dont say anything not having a working cd rom to install ubuntu/ubuntu alternate
[12:03] <SatanGolga> what is the best sources.list? is it default http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?
[12:04] <anjo> best for what ?
[12:04] <ompaul> SatanGolga, au.archive is the same as *.archive, as long as the machine is on the internet
[12:04] <SatanGolga> ah ok
[12:04] <SatanGolga> well, best for updating apt :P
[12:04] <deceptacon> so anyone know a way i can install ubuntu without a cdrom drive
[12:05] <ompaul> SatanGolga, so why if in .se do you want to point to .au there is a .se
[12:05] <davin> deceptacon: over the net?
[12:05] <ompaul> SatanGolga, more to the point there is a se.
[12:05] <deceptacon> is it possible to do a ubuntu alternate install (less than 128mb ram) via the net?
[12:06] <SatanGolga> ompaul: well, it was .au as default, better change it to .se
[12:06] <ompaul> SatanGolga, no change it to se. ;-)
[12:07] <SatanGolga> ompaul: that's a 10-4 :)
[12:07] <[H] 3b0R> hey ive just installed network-manager and the gnome frontend, but when i launch the gui it wont find my wireless card, ive used wlassistant before it went smooth, but i really dont wanna use since i have to start it manually at every reboot...
[12:08] <AndroidData> hello. I'm trying to get a piece of Windows software running on Ubuntu. I tried using WINE, but that doesn't work out so well (sound is glitchy, crashes when the RTF gets an image, blank browser). I was wondering if there was something akin to vmware which is free to use? I have a Windows 98 CD, and I'd like to install it so I can run said software. Anything?
[12:08] <ompaul> Decadent, not something I would try (and that is with 12 years of FLOSS under my belt) see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[12:08] <Decadent> why not??
[12:08] <chibiace> AndroidData: i thought vmware was free now? qemu?
[12:09] <AndroidData> I don't know how to use qemu. is there a manual?
[12:09] <ompaul> Decadent, time - and lots of it
[12:09] <Decadent> i see
[12:09] <Decadent> thanks :)
[12:09] <ompaul> Decadent, I would download the CD and install that - it is so much faster
[12:09] <cafuego> crusty chipset fan
[12:09] <ompaul> cafuego, hehe
[12:09] <chibiace> AndroidData: its not hard. their site has one.
[12:09] <AndroidData> ah I see. sorry for bothering you
[12:10] <ompaul> cafuego, for values of silence
[12:10] <hastesaver> cafuego, thanks for your help, I got it working now
[12:10] <cafuego> hastesaver: cool :-)
[12:10] <chibiace> cafuego: northbridge?
[12:10] <hastesaver> How do I prevent the garbage entries my ~/.ssh/known_hosts?
[12:10] <cafuego> chibiace: Whatever bridge
[12:11] <chibiace> cafuego: which chipset? mine is nforce 2. my fan stuffs up and i need to put lube in the back and it works for a couple of months
[12:11] <cafuego> chibiace: nforce3
[12:12] <hastesaver> Oh, it's a feature, not a bug, apparently -- "hashing known hosts"... how do I turn it off? (although it's recommended...)
[12:12] <cafuego> chibiace: it's a few years old now, and cheap plastic from what i can tell.
[12:12] <sovieticool> how i kill a aplication ?
[12:12] <hantoo> ps lx
[12:12] <hantoo> kill -9 pid
[12:13] <chibiace> cafuego: passive is ok if you have a big enough heatsink. you could have passive everything, but you'd want a nice 120mm case fan and a fan in your psu. there are some psus with 120mm fans in them
[12:13] <sovieticool> hantoo, i start a movie with vlc and now don't want to close :(\
[12:14] <|thunder> sovieticool, 'killall vlc'
[12:14] <chibiace> killall is nicer then using pids
[12:15] <nd0627> hi .. trying to install samba here ... got these logs though ... my question is, is there anything wrong with the ff. logs ????
[12:15] <sovieticool> thank's
[12:15] <nd0627> Suggested packages:
[12:15] <ompaul> hastesaver, static ips is usually the best way
[12:15] <nd0627>   samba-doc
[12:15] <nd0627> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[12:15] <nd0627>   samba
[12:15] <nd0627> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[12:15] <nd0627> Need to get 2389kB of archives.
[12:15] <nd0627> After unpacking 6070kB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:15] <nd0627> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main samba 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1.1 [ 2389kB] 
[12:15] <nd0627> Fetched 2389kB in 6m5s (6540B/s)
[12:15] <nd0627> Preconfiguring packages ...
[12:15] <eternalswd> I'm currently running the live cd to reinstall ubuntu cause I borked my system while trying to get X running with my ati card.  had to login in rescue mode and accidently borked something while root, sigh.  oh well, I was planning on doing a fresh install anyways now that I have a better idea of what I'm doing.
[12:15] <nd0627> Selecting previously deselected package samba.
[12:15] <siim> knetworkmanager can't connect to my wpa-tkip secured wireless networks it just "freezes" on 28% i'm using linksys WUSB54G 802,11g 2,4ghz intel chipset
[12:15] <nd0627> (Reading database ... 59154 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:15] <nd0627> Unpacking samba (from .../samba_3.0.14a-6ubuntu1.1_i386.deb) ...
[12:15] <nd0627> Setting up samba (3.0.14a-6ubuntu1.1) ...
[12:15] <hastesaver> ompaul, yes, that's what I set it to.
[12:16] <edgy> Hi, my log file is full of drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: control queue full in my ibm xseries 226 server, any hint what's wrong?
[12:16] <ompaul> nd0627, we really don't want you to paste in the channel, please use: paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks I will release the mute in a couple of minutes
[12:16] <sovieticool> |thunder, i try killall vlc but remains a black window
[12:17] <sovieticool> is full screen
[12:17] <|thunder> sovieticool, does it say no such process ?
[12:17] <|thunder> if not, run it again a few times
[12:17] <AbortD> two bots joined the chan?
[12:17] <sovieticool> vlc: no process killed
[12:17] <niels_> Is there a Linux IRC client, that supports mIRC scripts??
[12:17] <sovieticool> this is sayng
[12:18] <|thunder> sovieticool, do this 'ps -A | grep -i vlc'
[12:18] <|thunder> does it show a process ?
[12:18] <hantoo> niels_: nein
[12:19] <niels_> No? because I need a Client that supports my: "MTA:mA Remote Admin" scripts
[12:19] <hastesaver> ompaul, maybe we should have an auto-ban trigger based on pattern-matching things like "(Reading database ... " :-)
[12:19] <sovieticool> i do that line of command and the answear was 10367 ?        00:00:40 wxvlc
[12:20] <AbortD> same host@ is joining
[12:20] <ompaul> hastesaver, no cos the first time someone says what does (Reading database ... mean ...
[12:20] <|thunder> sovieticool, do 'kill -s SIGTERM 10367'
[12:20] <AbortD> you could ban it by the first two characters
[12:21] <AbortD> "n="
[12:21] <|thunder> they all have n=
[12:22] <AbortD> duh
[12:22] <|thunder> stands for netmask me thinks
[12:22] <|thunder> sovieticool, did it work ?
[12:22] <AbortD> just ban it
[12:22] <sovieticool> yes
[12:22] <|thunder> cool
[12:22] <ompaul> AbortD, sorry which one?
[12:22] <sovieticool> thank's
[12:22] <AbortD> n=anjo@210.89.157.65.static.nexnet.net.au
[12:22] <AbortD> ban
[12:22] <AbortD> n=
[12:23] <AbortD> i udnno the exact name it needs
[12:23] <[H] 3b0R> you guys who uses network-manager, how did you get it to work?
[12:23] <AbortD> but it would stop alot of traffic
[12:23] <|thunder> sovieticool, the reason killall vlc didnt work is because the name of the process is wxvlc    ,   not just vlc
[12:23] <sovieticool> oo
[12:23] <sovieticool> :)
[12:23] <AbortD> ompaul, that's all that is joining
[12:23] <hastesaver> ompaul, don't you think it's time to remove the mute?
[12:23] <sovieticool> |thunder can i pm you ?
[12:23] <ompaul> ahh
[12:24] <|thunder> [H] 3b0R, is your interface name listed there ?
[12:24] <|thunder> sovieticool, sure
[12:24] <niels_> Is there an IRC Client for Linux, that supports mIRC scripts (I need it to remote admin my MTA:Game Server)
[12:24] <AbortD> ban something like n=*!*@*!*
[12:24] <hastesaver> nd0627, paste your error message to pastebin, and ask only the question here
[12:24] <ompaul> niels_, not that I am aware of
[12:25] <niels_> ok
[12:25] <[H] 3b0R> |thunder: theres no choice at all just a choice if i want to turn it on or off....
[12:25] <AndroidData> I'm going to use qemu now, but the only CD I've got (Windows 98, which will use less RAM and stuff and is therefor approved :) ) does not boot from CD... is there an .iso file out there which I can use to burn a bootable cd real quick?
[12:25] <klos> niels_, what language is the mirc script
[12:25] <klos> written in ?
[12:25] <niels_> uhm
[12:25] <niels_> mIRC
[12:25] <niels_> its called: mta.mrc
[12:25] <klos> oh
[12:25] <Fraj> hi iv just installed ubuntu
[12:25] <klos> hm maybe you find soemone who writes it in
[12:25] <Fraj> whats a good irc client i can use on it?
[12:25] <klos> perl or soemthing like this
[12:25] <Fraj> which is compatible?
[12:25] <nd0627> whew. thanks ompaul !
[12:25] <niels_> hmmm k
[12:26] <niels_> I don't think that will work
[12:26] <ompaul> nd0627, as hastesaver said ask your question here, and paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pastes
[12:26] <niels_> But, thnx for help
[12:26] <|thunder> [H] 3b0R, i was thinking of network-monitor. my bad. i could never get network manager to work properly either. plus it dosnt look cool like it did in the screenie
[12:26] <Fraj> anyone?
[12:26] <nd0627> yup. will do
[12:27] <Fraj> ...
[12:27] <[H] 3b0R> |thunder: there is a qt forntend, wlassistant or something like that who worked for me, but i had to start it manually ever boot
[12:27] <[H] 3b0R> *every
[12:28] <|thunder> [H] 3b0R, add it to your session startup options
[12:28] <[H] 3b0R> i cant because i need root privilgies
[12:28] <|thunder> [H] 3b0R, system/prefs/sessions
[12:28] <[H] 3b0R> |thunder: btw i use xfce
[12:28] <|thunder> ohh
[12:29] <|thunder> i use gnome
[12:29] <xvxvx> whats the best/easiest way/app to start a audio/video conference/chat with windows users? ekiga?
[12:29] <[H] 3b0R> |thunder: xfce has a tool of the same sort, but i cant put things that requires root acces....
[12:30] <Lynoure> xvxvx: what do your windows users use? and are they willing to switch?
[12:30] <|thunder> [H] 3b0R, is this YOUR box ?
[12:30] <ompaul> [H] 3b0R, so you need to be talking to #xubuntu but you don't actually need root that is a myth, you can achive anything you want with "sudo"
[12:30] <Fraj> cna someone help me please?
[12:30] <Fraj> ...
[12:30] <ompaul> !sudo > [H] 3b0R
[12:30] <xvxvx> Lynoure, they aren't willing to switch to linux for sure, but they wouldn't mind install some extra app
[12:31] <|thunder> Fraj, just ask
[12:31] <Lynoure> xvxvx: For voice only Skype is annoyingly handy as many people have it already
[12:31] <ompaul> Fraj, xchat
[12:31] <xvxvx> Lynoure, so your saying a skype,amsn combo or something
[12:31] <nd0627> @everyone: as posted in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23731 ... trying to install samaba, anything wrong with the logs ? what's my next step ?
[12:31] <manmadha> how to unrar .rar format??
[12:31] <Fraj> ompaul may i pm you please?
[12:31] <ompaul> Fraj, click on system administration synaptic and search xchat and install it
[12:32] <AbortD> NO PMS!
[12:32] <manmadha> any one tell the cmd to unrar the rar format??
[12:32] <ompaul> !caps
[12:32] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:32] <|thunder> !rar > manmadha
[12:32] <AbortD> !caps
[12:32] <Dromen_> [H] 3b0R: you could try /etc/rc.local ??
[12:32] <AbortD> !caps > ompaul
[12:32] <Fraj> ok
[12:33] <Lynoure> xvxvx: skype exists for windows natively... so if voice is enough, skype alone works...  I know nothing of amsn
[12:33] <[H] 3b0R> ompaul: yes its my box, the thing is that the start thing gnome and xfce are using cant use sudo....
[12:33] <Fraj> kk
[12:33] <Dromen_> [H] 3b0R: you could try /etc/rc.local ??
[12:33] <Dromen_> i have sudo commands that start in there
[12:33] <nikin> amsn does not support voice
[12:34] <[H] 3b0R> ye im looking closer on it now, should i just add the command i want start at boot?
[12:34] <ompaul> [H] 3b0R, I set up and configure ubuntu xubuntu boxes on a regular basis - you don't need root
[12:34] <Dromen_> sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 start
[12:35] <nd0627> @everyone: as posted in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23731 ... trying to install samaba, anything wrong with the logs ? what's my next step ?
[12:35] <Dromen_> is one of the commands i have in mine
[12:35] <DrSpin> a better way might be to add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[12:35] <SatanGolga> hmm, isnt gcc default options at install from dvd?
[12:35] <Dromen_> DrSpin: that would probably work too :)
[12:36] <xvxvx> Lynoure, ok think amsn does video only, and many windows users use msn even how bad it is, so think ill try combine the two
[12:36] <DrSpin> SatanGolga: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:37] <SatanGolga> oh, thx DrSpin
[12:37] <[H] 3b0R> can i open an gui with /etc/rc.local?
[12:40] <hastesaver> nd0627, well, I'm off now, but it *did* say OK at the end. Your thing is probably installed already.
[12:40] <sovieticool> i want to login to aol whit my user and pass from ppoe can i do that ?
[12:42] <dark_light> ompaul, yeah, thanks, i read it, i have no router
[12:42] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm having this prob with apt that's disabling from doing anything else before I fix it. I tried installing jedit via a .deb package last week but it gave me an error and never finished the install so then I found a repository off of their site that I can use to install via apt but since the .deb file part way, apt wasn't working either because it's saying "E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can'
[12:42] <RamiKassab> t find an archive for it."
[12:43] <RamiKassab> so now every time I try to install or remove anything via apt it gives me this error and wont let me continue... how can I fix this so I can use apt again?
[12:43] <RamiKassab> I added the repository back into the sources.list file and did an apt-get update and then tried apt-get remove jedit but still the same error
[12:44] <ompaul> RamiKassab,  apt-get remove --purge
[12:45] <RamiKassab> ompaul: what does that do exactly?
[12:45] <ompaul> RamiKassab,  well it removes the progam with its global config files
[12:46] <RamiKassab> ompaul: so do 'apt-get remove --purge jedit'?
[12:46] <nd0627> @ hastesaver .. thanks. i hope too that it's ok. i'll proceed with the /etc/samba/conf !
[12:46] <ompaul> RamiKassab, yeap
[12:46] <RamiKassab> ompaul: still same error :(
[12:46] <RamiKassab> ompaul: wtf is causing this man... it's frusterating as shit
[12:47] <ompaul> RamiKassab, it is not an offical ubuntu package and it has tied up something
[12:47] <ompaul> RamiKassab, having the latest or whatever does not make for stability
[12:47] <wqdwq> I love HTTHost :P
[12:47] <wqdwq> Work + IRC = Heaven
[12:48] <SatanGolga> i'm trying to install vmware but "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:48] <SatanGolga> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] " ?
[12:48] <RamiKassab> ompaul: yeh, the damn .deb file that failed part way during the installed messed it all up
[12:49] <PiedotTaste> Hi
[12:49] <ompaul> RamiKassab, tried "apt-get -f install" yet?
[12:49] <PiedotTaste> Hiya everyone
[12:49] <SatanGolga> it says "The header files in /usr/include are generally for C libraries, not for the
[12:49] <SatanGolga> running kernel." but i cant find another dir
[12:49] <RamiKassab> ompaul: same error
[12:50] <PiedotTaste> I'm considering putting ubuntu on an external hard-drive and running it on my computer, but before i did i thought i'd come and speak to you guys and ask what you thought of Ubuntu? :O
[12:50] <RamiKassab> ompaul: so I have jedit installed now because I installed it via the java installer but that does nothing with apt
[12:50] <ompaul> PiedotTaste, well we are not going to say it is rubbish now are we :)
[12:50] <RamiKassab> ompaul: when you install via a .deb file, does apt also become aware of the software being installed?
[12:50] <PiedotTaste> i know
[12:50] <PiedotTaste> ;)
[12:50] <PiedotTaste> but i wanted to hear what you had to say about it and stuff
[12:50] <PiedotTaste> :)
[12:51] <SatanGolga> good, once u get i working :P
[12:51] <PiedotTaste> You see i've never used a linux system, i'm a windows n00b, so i thought i'd just be asking about Ubuntu before i plunged into something over my head :x
[12:51] <nickspoon> Ubuntu is very easy to use.
[12:51] <ceari> i guess it's one of the best distros to start with
[12:51] <ompaul> PiedotTaste, the place for non support conversations are in #ubuntu-offtopic this is strictly support and I would install it on the main box if I was you
[12:51] <nickspoon> But I found Mandriva more Windows-like.
[12:52] <PiedotTaste> ompaul, i would install it on the main box but i don't want to lose windows entirely, and i'm not fond of the idea of dividing my hard-drive.
[12:52] <ompaul> RamiKassab, apt is not aware - a database or list is made aware and apt talks with this
[12:52] <SatanGolga> ompaul: do u know how to get the dir for the C kernel-headers?
[12:53] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: ditch Windows then :P
[12:53] <RamiKassab> ompaul: how can I remove jedit from this database/list because the neither .deb package or apt actually did the install because .deb failed and messed up apt as a result so I installed via java
[12:53] <PiedotTaste> I know but i don't wanna do that, i've got lots of stuff on this computer that i don't want to lose and i dont wanna use up a load of discs backing everything up :x
[12:53] <PiedotTaste> SO i'm gonna install it to an external hard-drive
[12:53] <PiedotTaste> when i get chance
[12:53] <ompaul> SatanGolga, sudo apt-get install linux-headers(`uname -r`)
[12:53] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: partition partition partition.
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> I know
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> I just said i don't like the idea of that xP
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> lol :D
[12:54] <nickspoon> or back up everything to an external hard drive.
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> I'm gonna get an external hard-drive
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> and install ubuntu onto it
[12:54] <ompaul> RamiKassab, I have not had something break badly on me in so long I can't remember :-(
[12:54] <cieffe> hi everybody
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> so i can boot form the external hard-drive
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> i think that's work
[12:54] <mikeconcepts> would some kind soul look at my results for sudo apt-get update and tell me what might be done to resolve: http://pastebin.ca/173899
[12:54] <RamiKassab> ompaul: :( am I just SOL or what?
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> And if i really decided it was better than windows, i could swap it for windows entirely ^_^
[12:54] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I NEED APT!
[12:54] <PiedotTaste> But i was just wondering how amazing you guys thought Ubuntu was? :P
[12:55] <ompaul> PiedotTaste, read this and check what you want is available https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[12:55] <ompaul> RamiKassab, try this get the deb with a direct http://some-archive.whatever/file.deb
[12:56] <ompaul> RamiKassab, sudo dpkg -i jedit.whatever.the.full.file.name.ie
[12:56] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: if you have a reasonable system, you could always try LiveCDs.
[12:56] <ompaul> PiedotTaste, I don't like the idea of installing it on an external drive
[12:56] <mikeconcepts> is this a common problem? http://pastebin.ca/173899
[12:57] <klm-> when is edgy out?
[12:57] <RamiKassab> ompaul: does that install it?
[12:57] <xukun_> how can I upgrade to edgy?
[12:57] <Meroigo> Hello, I've been trying so solving this Apache problem I have in ubuntu for many hours now, but nothing I try solves it =(
[12:57] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon: LiveCD's ?
[12:57] <ompaul> RamiKassab, it should but ... I don't know what is broken where on your box
[12:57] <klm-> what happened to lilo?
[12:58] <ompaul> mikeconcepts, ask in #automatix I have never seen it before
[12:58] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: basically you boot Linux from your CD drive.
[12:58] <RamiKassab> ompaul: so I got errors when trying to install... can I paste the errors somewhere for you to see? may give some guidance
[12:58] <mikeconcepts> thanks
[12:58] <nickspoon> so you can have a look around without touching Widnows.
[12:58] <RamiKassab> !paste
[12:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:58] <PiedotTaste> oooo
[12:58] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon
[12:58] <PiedotTaste> how do you do that?
[12:58] <Meroigo> Can I ask something about Apache in here, maybe someone can help me? :) Or is Apache questions here forbidden? ;O
[12:58] <PiedotTaste> Sounds cool
[12:59] <ompaul> klm-, he was on his push bike last tuesday, he was hit by a car the driver kept going, he died Sat AM Texas time
[12:59] <mikeconcepts> join #automatix
[12:59] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: can your PC boot from CD?
[12:59] <PiedotTaste> I don't know
[12:59] <PiedotTaste> :x
[12:59] <PiedotTaste> I'm a programmar, software's my thing, not hardware - i'm ashamed to say :x
[12:59] <nickspoon> heh.
[12:59] <mrdarcy> hi all, \doea nybody know why i can't login to yahoo using firefox browser? when i click the mail, te window closes
[12:59] <ompaul> PiedotTaste, you will learn :)
[12:59] <beu> klm-: see the topic of #freenode-social :/
[12:59] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: download the Ubuntu Desktop install CD.
[12:59] <klm-> ompaul: that's horrible
[01:00] <RamiKassab> ompaul: here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23735
[01:00] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I appreciate the help man
[01:00] <SatanGolga> how to solve: The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.11) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel. ?
[01:02] <ompaul> RamiKassab, do you script or code at all (or could you grope your way in the dark) if I gave you a way to try figure it out cos I have to do something for an hour or so
[01:02] <xukun_> Can I upgrade to edgy from dapper?
[01:03] <cafuego> xukun: yes.
[01:03] <ompaul> xukun_, yes, ask in  #ubuntu+1  however please note it is beta software
[01:03] <cieffe> xukun_: yes
[01:03] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon
[01:03] <PiedotTaste> I have an instillation thing
[01:03] <PiedotTaste> i think it's a desktop one
[01:03] <PiedotTaste> It's called:
[01:03] <ompaul> RamiKassab, want to poke around inside the deb file?
[01:04] <PiedotTaste> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.ISO
[01:04] <PiedotTaste> Is that what you meant?
[01:04] <RamiKassab> ompaul: yeah I do code
[01:04] <xukun_> ompaul, cieffe thanks for the answer. I know the risks
[01:04] <RamiKassab> ompaul: primarily web apps though... new to the linux coding realm still
[01:04] <ares> xukun, in theory if u change your sources.list to the sources.list of edgy and give a upgrada, it should work
[01:04] <fraj_> hi
[01:04] <fraj_> which is better xchat or bitchx?
[01:05] <fraj_> iv just installed xchat...
[01:05] <sovieticool> how i install flash for firefox ?
[01:05] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon? :x
[01:05] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I don't want to keep ya, I could try doing an extensive search cause I'm sure people have had this prob before
[01:05] <unfknblvbl> bitchx sounds more fun
[01:05] <fraj_> lol
[01:05] <RamiKassab> ompaul: see if I can find something
[01:05] <ares> PiedotTaste, you need to burn this file into one CD (you con use one cdrw ou dvdrw
[01:05] <unfknblvbl> i jsut use gaim
[01:05] <unfknblvbl> its one software for all
[01:05] <ompaul> RamiKassab, mkdir test-jedit && dpkg -X jedit_4.3pre6_all.deb test-jedit/     << go in there and play around
[01:05] <fraj_> you can use gaim for irc?
[01:05] <fraj_> lol
[01:05] <unfknblvbl> yeh
[01:05] <fraj_> i neva knew dat
[01:05] <unfknblvbl> i'm on it now
[01:05] <fraj_> damn
[01:05] <PiedotTaste> ares, i wanna make a live CD
[01:05] <PiedotTaste> is that what burning it to CD will do?
[01:05] <fraj_> right anyway iv got 1 more question
[01:05] <fraj_> how do i install vmware or wine?
[01:06] <fraj_> do i need vmware player or server?
[01:06] <sovieticool> unfknblvbl, do you know how to install flash for firefox
[01:06] <sovieticool> ?
[01:06] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: that's the right one, yeah.
[01:06] <unfknblvbl> nuh i got no idea sorry dude
[01:06] <mikeconcepts> anybody seen this problem before? http://pastebin.ca/173899
[01:06] <martyyyr> what do I do when ubuntu (dapper drake) doesn't see my network card?
[01:06] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon, i can make that into a liveCD somehow? :x
[01:06] <AndroidData> heh this is cool
[01:06] <rkd> sovieticool: easybuntu or automatix should do it
[01:06] <nd0627> how can you view previous commands you've typed in the terminal ???
[01:06] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: that is a LiveCD.
[01:06] <AndroidData> I'm teasing my friend who isn't allowed to install Linux by his mom & dad
[01:06] <sovieticool> i try easybuntu
[01:06] <AndroidData> cause the computer he's on is shared
[01:07] <nickspoon> it also does the install.
[01:07] <sovieticool> but i receve a error
[01:07] <unfknblvbl> lol
[01:07] <PiedotTaste> it IS a live CD?
[01:07] <PiedotTaste> :o
[01:07] <unfknblvbl> AndroidData: give hi a LIVECD
[01:07] <JosefK> mikeconcepts: does running another 'sudo aptitude update' fix it?
[01:07] <AndroidData> telling him how I'm installing Windows (with qemu), having 30 firefox tabs open, playing music, watching 1500 users in the irc chat with no lag at all
[01:07] <unfknblvbl> AndroidData: Give him a liveCD
[01:07] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: just start your PC with the CD in and it should work.
[01:07] <AndroidData> yes I will
[01:07] <RamiKassab> ompaul: looks like fun :) I'll dig around, thanks!
[01:07] <PiedotTaste> it isn't the only thing on the CD
[01:07] <Thug_P> anna where is she\
[01:07] <PiedotTaste> it's one of the files on it, it came from a magazine
[01:07] <mikeconcepts> Josefk: checking
[01:07] <PiedotTaste> so it's in a folder on the disk somewhere
[01:08] <PiedotTaste> do i have to burn it to a disc on it's own?
[01:08] <ares> PiedotTaste, look at the chat i opened
[01:08] <Thug_P> yo
[01:08] <nd0627> @ everyone: how can you view previous commands you've typed in the terminal ???
[01:08] <PiedotTaste> i didn't get a chat, ares.
[01:08] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: oh, in that case you just need to burn the image to a new disk.
[01:08] <Thug_P> watched the tv/?
[01:08] <PiedotTaste> okay
[01:08] <Thug_P> anna is a bot
[01:08] <nickspoon> nd0627: press up.
[01:08] <PiedotTaste> i burn it to a disk, run the computer with it in?
[01:08] <JosefK> mikeconcepts: it just looks like the HTTP server terminated your connection unexpectedly, hence the incomplete file
[01:08] <unfknblvbl> nd0627: up arrow key
[01:08] <PiedotTaste> Right i'll try that then...
[01:08] <ares> PiedotTaste, wait
[01:08] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: remember, don't just burn the ISO to a disk.
[01:08] <AndroidData> unfknblvbl: he has no blank CDs laying around. heh!
[01:09] <AndroidData> we live abroad
[01:09] <PiedotTaste> ?
[01:09] <PiedotTaste> what then? :o
[01:09] <RamiKassab> ompaul: you still there?
[01:09] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon, ares: what then? :x
[01:09] <ares> PiedotTaste, you have to press del into the POST and enter into the setup
[01:09] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: in your burning program, remember to select something to do with "make a disk from an image" and then choose the ISO.
[01:09] <unfknblvbl> AndroidData: you can always use shipit
[01:09] <RamiKassab> ompaul: perhaps I could download a package from an earlier version of jedit and try installing that then removing it?
[01:09] <RamiKassab> ompaul: think that would work?
[01:09] <AndroidData> unfknblvbl: :p
[01:09] <unfknblvbl> AndroidData: it takes 7-10 weeks though for the cd to get there
[01:09] <PiedotTaste> make a disc from an image? ._.
[01:09] <JosefK> RamiKassab: are you having problems with apt after a package failed to install?
[01:09] <PiedotTaste> ooooookay
[01:09] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: the iso is a disk image containing the ubuntu installer.
[01:09] <unfknblvbl> AndroidData: or you can send him screenshots and just tease him
[01:10] <ares> PiedotTaste, then u have to set your cd reader to be the first one to be readed
[01:10] <nickspoon> what burning program do you have, PiedotTaste?
[01:10] <martyyyr> what do I do when ubuntu (dapper drake) doesn't see my network card?
[01:10] <AndroidData> yes! screens!
[01:10] <mikeconcepts> Josefk: yes it fixed it. what was the problem, how did this redolve it?
[01:10] <Thug_P> how do i reinstall firefox from the terminal i see white squares everywhere instead of the context
[01:10] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon: none, i wasn't quite sure how i was going to go about it xD
[01:10] <RamiKassab> JosefK: yep
[01:10] <niels_> martyyyr, dit you configure your network?
[01:10] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: have you got Nero?
[01:10] <JosefK> mikeconcepts: it was just poor luck, not worth worrying about
[01:10] <niels_> dit=did
[01:10] <martyyyr> niels_ nope...how could I have done that?
[01:11] <RamiKassab> JosefK: sounds like you've had the prob before... any help perhaps?!
[01:11] <PiedotTaste> I take it that's a program, in which case no, nickspoon. I can download it if that's what i need?
[01:11] <JosefK> RamiKassab: if you check the manpage for 'dpkg', there are some force options near the bottom (they're fairly arcane and I can't recall them offhand)
[01:11] <niels_> Do you have GNOME?
[01:11] <martyyyr> I just installed ubuntu
[01:11] <niels_> k
[01:11] <niels_> Look at Places
[01:11] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: that's a CD burner, you can get a free trial from www.nero.com
[01:11] <mikeconcepts> Josefk: just will remember fix
[01:11] <Thug_P> martyyyr,  how you doing
[01:11] <JosefK> RamiKassab: you can force the package to remove using those flags, and providing the package name
[01:11] <niels_> Network Servers
[01:11] <AndroidData> this is wonderful
[01:11] <C22H28N2O> Sure it is :D
[01:12] <ares> PiedotTaste, NERO is just for bur the iso into a CD, you com burn it from any program u wanna
[01:12] <AndroidData> I can run my windows apps. using qemu now, which seems to be working seamlessly with linux
[01:12] <unfknblvbl> its simple
[01:12] <martyyyr> Thug_P, doing fine..but my network isn't :)
[01:12] <unfknblvbl> thats why i like it
[01:12] <martyyyr> niels_, then what?
[01:12] <Thug_P> martyyyr give your email we talk about that there
[01:12] <JosefK> RamiKassab: 'dpkg --force-help' will show you the choices
[01:12] <martyyyr> Thug_P, what's wrong with irc?
[01:12] <Thug_P> every piece of possibility that something goes right
[01:13] <niels_> martyyyr, System/Administration/Networkin
[01:13] <nept1> .hispano.org
[01:13] <martyyyr> niels_, the network card is just not there...
[01:13] <RamiKassab> JosefK: would I want remove-reinstreq
[01:13] <niels_> martyyyr, no? where did you see that
[01:13] <JosefK> RamiKassab: yes :) was about to type that here
[01:13] <martyyyr> well, it's not in that list...
[01:13] <Thug_P> well i got 2 go now
[01:13] <niels_> hmm
[01:14] <niels_> martyyyr, which brand is the card?
[01:14] <JosefK> RamiKassab: dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq *package name*
[01:14] <Thug_P> people tell me if ladys are active that becomes social affaired
[01:14] <Thug_P> bye
[01:14] <martyyyr> it's an onboard intel 82566DC gigabit
[01:14] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ok I'll give that a try :)
[01:14] <niels_> martyyyr, search at google for: supported network cards linux
[01:15] <niels_> martyyyr, try to search for your card at supported hardware lists online
[01:15] <martyyyr> k
[01:16] <AbortD> hm
[01:16] <mumbles> lo all
[01:17] <martyyyr> oh great..it says my netword card will be supported in the future...
[01:17] <nickspoon> martyyyr: time to go shopping ;)
[01:17] <niels_> Oh that sux
[01:17] <rambo3> some e1000 maby
[01:18] <martyyyr> nah..I have a bunch of network cards here somewhere...
[01:18] <rambo3> martyyyr, is it e100/e1000 driver for that one
[01:18] <martyyyr> rambo3, is that a question?
[01:18] <niels_> martyyyr, that's nice, just grab one of those card, and get online!
[01:18] <niels_> martyyyr, forgot: You will have to configure your card well.
[01:18] <martyyyr> before the install?
[01:19] <rambo3> yes thats a question
[01:19] <JosefK> RamiKassab: any luck? ;)
[01:19] <martyyyr> rambo3, in that case..I have no idea what you mean
[01:19] <brian98> morning all
[01:20] <niels_> martyyyr, turn off PC card, place card, turn on PC, configure card @ system/administration/networking
[01:20] <brian98> thats anyone in Ireland etc...
[01:20] <brian98> :)
[01:20] <niels_> turn off PC , place card, turn on PC, configure card @ system/administration/networkin
[01:20] <JosefK> heh, just afternoon here on the mainland brian98 :)
[01:20] <RamiKassab> JosefK: I'm getting an error that says "dpkg: need an action option" when I run "dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq jedit_4.3pre6_all.deb"
[01:20] <RamiKassab> JosefK: any ideas?
[01:20] <martyyyr> niels_, alright, I'll give it a shot
[01:20] <JosefK> RamiKassab: try 'dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq jedit_4.3pre6_all'
[01:21] <niels_> martyyyr, ok, good luck
[01:21] <JosefK> RamiKassab: I think it needs the '-r' == remove action, and applies the force to that
[01:21] <martyyyr> thanks
[01:21] <niels_> ;)
[01:21] <martyyyr> btw, dutch?
[01:21] <brian98> josefk:mmainland where :)
[01:21] <JosefK> brian98: UK :P
[01:21] <RamiKassab> JosefK: I tried that already too and I get the error "dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in"
[01:21] <RamiKassab> JosefK: whatever the hell that menas
[01:21] <RamiKassab> means
[01:21] <JosefK> RamiKassab: drop the '.deb' off the
[01:21] <brian98> ahh ok
[01:21] <niels_> martyyyr, jup nederlands
[01:21] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ok
[01:21] <JosefK> RamiKassab: try 'dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq jedit_4.3pre6_all' (like I did there :P)
[01:22] <martyyyr> :) easy guess
[01:22] <brian98> hello to you.. I know it's well off topic. looking forward to the footy? :)
[01:22] <JosefK> RamiKassab: aptitude search jedit | grep '^i' - that'll get you the package name if that doesn't work
[01:22] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ok now I get this error "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove jedit_4.3pre6_all which isn't installed."
[01:22] <RamiKassab> JosefK: thought we were forcing it lol
[01:23] <JosefK> RamiKassab: aye, out of interest, what happens if you run 'sudo aptitude install'
[01:23] <JosefK> RamiKassab: try '--pending' in place or -r too
[01:24] <RamiKassab> JosefK: I get the following erros when running 'aptitude install': 'E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the jedit package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)' AND 'E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?'
[01:25] <RamiKassab> JosefK: I'm logged in as root btw
[01:25] <RamiKassab> JosefK: well through the terminal
[01:25] <JosefK> RamiKassab: no 'aptitude' or 'synaptic' running in the background?
[01:25] <RamiKassab> JosefK: I ran 'su' and logged it
[01:25] <cyber_brain_mfkg> one question! i have backup of my /var/cache/apt and when i want to install that packeges on my friends fresh installed ubuntu it reports me somthing like "too many errors"(I use command dpkg -i /backupdir/* )???
[01:25] <RamiKassab> JosefK: the autoupdate thing is but it wont go the hell away because of this error
[01:26] <JosefK> RamiKassab: 'kill -9' it before proceeding, it's locked the apt cache
[01:26] <kholerabbi> Can I install gnome2.16 on dapper?
[01:27] <RamiKassab> JosefK: what is the name it is under that I should kill? would it be 'update-manager'?
[01:27] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what to do to continue with installation skiping bad packeges???
[01:27] <RamiKassab> JosefK: or I mean update-notifier
[01:28] <JosefK> RamiKassab: update-manager (but both won't hurt)
[01:28] <voraistos> hey guys. i was wondering, how do i flash bios? moterboard ?
[01:28] <e-type> hi all
[01:28] <mikeconcepts> Josefk: sudo apitude update fixed this http://pastebin.ca/173899 where sudo apt-get update gave the problem shown in pastebin
[01:28] <JosefK> mikeconcepts: running 'sudo apt-get update' again probably would've fixed it too, it was just an intermittent network problem
[01:29] <mikeconcepts> Josefk: I see
[01:29] <pradeep> voraistos, your Motherboard vendor would have instructions to do that ... and it's better to do what they say
[01:29] <Otacon22> wich is the iptables command to disallow the input/output connections to an ip?
[01:29] <RamiKassab> JosefK: so it killed the notifer icon but the cache is still locker
[01:29] <voraistos> pradeep coz the motherboard's vendor (gigabyte) doesnt seem to offer any support for linux
[01:29] <RamiKassab> JosefK: lol
[01:30] <JosefK> RamiKassab: ack :/ and update-manager?
[01:30] <deep> Is there any good audoconverter in linux?
[01:30] <JosefK> RamiKassab: ps -ef | grep dpkg
[01:30] <deep> audio*
[01:30] <RamiKassab> JosefK: well there was no update-manager... it was supposed to be notifier, I just typed it wrong
[01:30] <voraistos> deep mencoder
[01:30] <mrbrdo> hi. when upgrading from dapper to edgy, i get a lot of warnings from perl, something about my locale (en_AU - why AU?), i also got an error from firefox, something about can't install en_gb version.. now i got an error "installArchives() failed" and it says "The upgrade aborts now"
[01:30] <RamiKassab> JosefK: dpkg is running, i'll kill that
[01:31] <deep> voraistos: Thanx. *google*
[01:31] <pradeep> voraistos, don't they have a 'floppy' option?
[01:31] <JosefK> RamiKassab: bingo :) after that, could you paste 'aptitude search jedit' to the pasteboard?
[01:31] <JosefK> !paste
[01:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:31] <cyber_brain_mfkg> how ti install more packeges from one dir skipping bad ones(if there's any)???
[01:31] <cyber_brain_mfkg> anybody?
[01:32] <voraistos> pradeep: they give you a .exe to dl. with wine works fine, it decompresses the bios flasher + the bios BIN . the bios flasher wont work with wine :(
[01:32] <RamiKassab> JosefK: damn still the same prob... damn cache is locked
[01:32] <voraistos> pradeep: cant see any diskette option
[01:32] <JosefK> RamiKassab: 'ps -ef | grep apt'
[01:33] <RamiKassab> JosefK: no cigar
[01:33] <pradeep> voraistos, bad luck ... intel has that ... either the exe or OS independent floppy ... you could call up gigabyte and ask ...
[01:33] <voraistos> pradeep: and i dont have diskettes
[01:33] <JosefK> RamiKassab: erk :/ hate to say it, but a reboot may be in order, at least to unlock those files
[01:34] <RamiKassab> JosefK: that weird though because 'sudo apt-get update' works just fine... wouldn't that fail if the files were locked?
[01:34] <sanityx> How can I prevent a kernel module from loading at bood
[01:34] <sanityx> boot
[01:34] <kgochev> I need help file for Koppete
[01:34] <JosefK> RamiKassab: I'd imagine so :/ *shrugs* ignore it for a bit.  could you paste 'aptitude search jedit'?
[01:34] <sanityx> I've been using rmmod to remove it but I want to remove one permanently
[01:35] <RamiKassab> JosefK: yeah I can
[01:36] <RamiKassab> JosefK: all I get is 'H   jedit                                                  -'
[01:37] <voraistos> pradeep: i just remember something: my motherboard has 2 BIOS. i can rescue (and flash) the main BIOS with the second one. i am gonna investigate that
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jedit isnt in the normal repos... second time this week I have seen someone trying to install it
[01:38] <pradeep> voraistos, good luck
[01:38] <RamiKassab> JosefK: so what does that mean?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> voraistos: I love that feature.. same thing here
[01:38] <ryanakca> how do I get a list of installed packages? a list that I could feed to apt if ever my system crashes... example "apt-get install 'cat installedpackages' "
[01:38] <voraistos> hehe. thats gonna rule. just need a damn diskette
[01:38] <ufficio> !it
[01:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:39] <BazziR> ryanakca: dpkg -l
[01:39] <ryanakca> BazziR: that outputs the description and the "ii" etc
[01:39] <Meroigo> I have samba, and I can see this Ubuntu computer in the windows network on theother computer that has windows. it prompts for username and password, but none of my ubuntu logins works there... and also I'd like to be able to browse network locations in an open file-dialog, like when you want to open a file in VLC. Now I must fist copy the file to Ubuntu before I can open it that way =/
[01:39] <JosefK> RamiKassab: half-configured, which is to be expected
[01:40] <BazziR> ryanakca: well you can just read everything up to the first space if you pipe it thorugh some regex
[01:40] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ok... so what do you suggest to do here... damn this is really frusterating... I really appreciate the help
[01:40] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !sr
[01:40] <deep> Is there a way to convert UMX to OGG or WAV in ubuntu?
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <ompaul> RamiKassab, in theory it should not
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> To make my list of installed packages into a file I Use Terminal type dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt
[01:40] <JosefK> RamiKassab: aye :/ hah, just realised our mistake
[01:41] <JosefK> RamiKassab: aptitude --force-remove-reinstreq --remove jedit
[01:41] <ryanakca> BazziR: which would be...
[01:41] <Trent> when im booting with the ubuntu disc i keep getting [DS-DOS]  a:\   any ideas?
[01:41] <JosefK> RamiKassab: erk :/ dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove jedit
[01:41] <RamiKassab> JosefK: aptitude or dpkg?
[01:41] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ah ok :)
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> trent, do you have a floppy in the drive?
[01:41] <BazziR> ryanakca: just see what Jack_Sparrow wrote ;) thats better
[01:41] <JosefK> RamiKassab: dpkg :/ it's still early here, and I'm only just having my first coffee :P we had the arguments in the wrong order, and the wrong package name :(
[01:41] <Trent> jack_sparrow, no i dont
[01:42] <sovieticool> know somebody how to configure a 5.1 sound to work??
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> had to ask..  How did you burn the cd or where did you get it
[01:42] <mdupont> please help
[01:43] <treedreamer> hey guys , how can i remove a previous installation of vmware and reinstall it again ?
[01:43] <Trent> i got it from ubutu's download section and i burned it with nero to a CD
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: Waiting for first pot to finish brewing..  :)
[01:43] <RamiKassab> ompaul: :) wish that theory were correct
[01:43] <RamiKassab> ompaul: or in our favor at least
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> trent, did you burn it as an image or did you make a bootable cd?
[01:43] <mdupont> my xserver does not start anymore, XFontFileCompleteXLFD is the top of the stack
[01:43] <Trent> jack_sparrow, bootable cd
[01:44] <Meroigo> Does someone know any answers for me? :)
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah, burn it as an image..
[01:44] <Trent> jack_sparrow, thank you
[01:44] <ompaul> RamiKassab, did you find anything in there that told you about where and what the install was trying to do
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> You burnt a DOS bootable image and one file to the cd
[01:44] <RamiKassab> JosefK: so here's the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23741
[01:44] <RamiKassab> ompaul: didn't go in that deep yet... JosefK's been trying to help
[01:45] <JosefK> RamiKassab: woohoo, it's removed :)
[01:45] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ok so now should I reinstall it since I use it?
[01:45] <blaa> how do i exact  *.rar on linux?
[01:45] <RamiKassab> JosefK: but use the java installer?
[01:45] <JosefK> RamiKassab: yes, it looks like that deb's seriously broken, so just install it to /usr/local from source
[01:45] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ok so now I can use apt :)
[01:46] <JosefK> RamiKassab: you can carry on using apt as normal now though :)
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> blaa there is an un-rar-free, but I must ask what you are trying to uncompress/install
[01:46] <jrib> blaa: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse, then you can use the archive manager to extract it
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[01:46] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:46] <zaggynl> Is it me, or is the ubuntu wiki having problems?
[01:46] <RamiKassab> JosefK: hell yeah! thanks a bunch man... I'm gonna do the java install again now... thank god my settings are saved in my home dir :)
[01:47] <JosefK> RamiKassab: hehe, np's :)
[01:47] <RamiKassab> JosefK: jedit still runs without having to reinstall
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodmorning Jrib & ompaul..
[01:47] <PiedotTaste> Hey guys
[01:47] <RamiKassab> JosefK: guess the java installer locates it differently than apt or dpkg
[01:48] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, hi
[01:48] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: morning
[01:48] <PiedotTaste> Umm
[01:48] <JosefK> RamiKassab: indeed, the files are left on the system after forcing dpkg.  you can 'dpkg -L' the file and remove them if needed
[01:48] <PiedotTaste> I'm trying to make an Ubuntu live CD
[01:48] <PiedotTaste> all i have is the desktop installer
[01:48] <PiedotTaste> and Nero
[01:48] <PiedotTaste> and a disk
[01:48] <RamiKassab> JosefK: nah all works fine now as far as I can tell!
[01:48] <PiedotTaste> can somebody help me please :x
[01:48] <RamiKassab> JosefK: if I could send a beer your way I would
[01:48] <RamiKassab> JosefK: or perhaps another coffee :)
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: You just want a copy or are you trying to remaster?
[01:49] <graveson> which combination of hardware and software could i use to convert VHS tapes to mpeg files ?
[01:49] <blaa> Jack_Sparrow, I want to uncompress
[01:49] <JosefK> RamiKassab: indeed ^^
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> blaa: THat didnt anser my question but fine...
[01:49] <PiedotTaste> Jack_Sparrow: I am running Windows, i want to be able to run Linux from CD (Live CD) so i can see what it's like. But i don't know how. ALl i have is the desktop installer .ISO, a blank CD, and Nero CD writy thing (which i don't know how to use because i just got it on nickspoon's advice)
[01:49] <RamiKassab> ompaul: thank you for your help earlier too man... glad we got this resolved... now I can continue coding!
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: Desktop installer should be a livecd
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: Have you tried to boot to it..
[01:50] <PiedotTaste> Jack_Sparrow i got it from a magazine, so it was placed as a folder inside it, not the actual boot CD
[01:50] <zaggynl> xgl + compiz is cool, but I'm getting a little seasick xD
[01:50] <PiedotTaste> It's not a CD with it on it's own
[01:51] <RamiKassab> JosefK: ok brother, again, it's much appreciated. I'll prob see you on here another time... take care!
[01:51] <sovieticool> know somebody how to configure a 5.1 sound to work??
[01:51] <PiedotTaste> It's part of a magazine CD, so i copied it from the CD to my computer, now i'm gonna write it from my computer to a CD on it's own which i can hopefully boot Ubuntu from it
[01:51] <PiedotTaste> :x
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: What is the file type they gave you?
[01:51] <PiedotTaste> .ISO
[01:51] <ompaul> !timetable > RamiKassab
[01:51] <PiedotTaste> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 <--
[01:51] <PiedotTaste> .ISO
[01:52] <ompaul> RamiKassab, have a read of that URL it might help understand some of the logic of the distro you are using
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: USe nero to write an image file...
[01:52] <PiedotTaste> Jack_Sparrow: That's the problem, do i just right click it and select "Record Now!" or what?
[01:52] <PiedotTaste> I only just downloaded Nero because Nickspoon told me to use it
[01:52] <PiedotTaste> But i don't know how to use it.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[01:53] <ruzgar> i cant use gaim
[01:53] <ruzgar> when i open it 2 seconds later close it self
[01:53] <RamiKassab> ompaul: no but someone sent it to me last week I believe... does that mean that sometimes apt repositories will be outdated when compared to the packages that can be downloaded from the site of the software instead?
[01:53] <RamiKassab> ompaul: nm the question, guess I'll just read the article
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> MAy I make a simple suggestion..?  DL the free probram isorecorder there are two versions 1 for sp1 and one for sp2... very simple easy...   I cant walk you through NEro unless I boot into windows... been too long since I ran nero to do it blind
[01:55] <ruzgar> is there a problem with help pages
[01:55] <jrib> ruzgar: start it form a terminal and see if there is any output when it exits
[01:55] <ruzgar> i cant open help.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[01:56] <graveson> i notice vmware (windows) detects my video card as vmware svga adapater- can this be changed to use the propriety driver
[01:57] <jrib> ruzgar: it loads but takes a really long time here
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> RamiKassab: Yes the repos will always be outdated, BUT they have been tested to WORK....Always wanting the latest release can come back to haunt you
[01:57] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: true that... lesson learned!
[01:58] <ompaul> RamiKassab, it does, but the point I wanted you to take away is this, package based systems working on the basis that things work together as opposed to some packages with new dependencies that conflict with your stable system
[01:59] <ompaul> RamiKassab, you have a choice new or stable :)
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> RamiKassab: I think the more popular the program the more likely it will be that it is a newer version
[02:00] <RamiKassab> ompaul: thanks a bunch man
[02:01] <ompaul> RamiKassab, we try :-) hang around and see how this world works :)
[02:01] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: yeah jedit is presumably pretty popular though but they're apt package seems outdated
[02:01] <Coder> hi all
[02:01] <RamiKassab> ompaul: oh I love ubuntu... recently installed it as dual boot on my laptop and I think I've booted to windows just a couple times since :)
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> RamiKassab: Not as popular as say a web browser, priorities must be assigned somewhere.
[02:02] <RamiKassab> Jack_Sparrow: good point
[02:02] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: how goes it? (I had to go buy cat food)
[02:02] <ompaul> RamiKassab, time to back up your pesonal data and just make that move :-)
[02:03] <RamiKassab> ompaul: heh I will... I'm working towards it... will eventually just remove windows for good from the HD... ubuntu will need the space :)
[02:03] <nd0627> how do you edit the samba config ? can't we edit it in gedit ?
[02:03] <RamiKassab> ompaul: just a few reserves such as no Outlook for syncing with my pda phone
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> nickspoon: HE was having trouble with Nero and I was not able to walk him through bling, so I asked him to grab isorecorder, a free small windows tool just for burning IOS's
[02:03] <donrosin> how can i install a email server? ( a email server u can login fd
[02:03] <donrosin> how can i install a email server? ( a email server u can login from the net on=
[02:03] <Cadet> !email
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <Cadet> !mail-server
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mail-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <Coder> !server
[02:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> i got Nero
[02:04] <ompaul> RamiKassab, what kind of pda and what kind of phone?
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> i have a blank disc in the drive
[02:04] <Cadet> there you go donrosin
[02:04] <Cadet> :)
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> and i have the desktop installer on my documents
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> but i'm kinda stuck there
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> i've opened up the .ISO file with Nero Burning ROM
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> and i'm stuck xD
[02:04] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: ok.
[02:04] <nd0627> how do you edit the samba config ? can't we edit it in gedit ?
[02:04] <PiedotTaste> My coding friends aren't helping me because i won't use the disc writing software htey suggest >_>
[02:05] <nickspoon> start nero, go File->Burn Image
[02:05] <donrosin> !xwindows
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <PiedotTaste> I've opened the .ISO with the Nero Burning ROM
[02:05] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[02:05] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:05] <RamiKassab> ompaul: but I have 3 laptops and a primary PC... this is my primary laptop that is with me all the time... I got a PC that is running windows and I can set that up to sync with the PDA and then I would eventually like to setup some sort of a CalDAV system on one of my servers to automatically sync from the outlook running on the primary PC to this laptop
[02:05] <PiedotTaste> have i already done what you said ? :o
[02:05] <RamiKassab> ompaul: the Cingular 8125... it's a pda and phone in one
[02:05] <Wermut> Sometimes tab completion in the Bash shell does not work; it returns "grep: Trailing backslash". Can somebody explain this?
[02:05] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: possibly, it's a long time since I've used Nero.
[02:06] <PiedotTaste> Oh.
[02:06] <DERxT> :)
[02:06] <RamiKassab> ompaul: just got it but had a smartphone before it that I synced with my laptop as well
[02:06] <PiedotTaste> So i close it and do what you say then
[02:06] <PiedotTaste> xD
[02:06] <nd0627> how do you edit the samba config ? can't we edit it in gedit ?
[02:06] <nickspoon> sounds like a plan ;)
[02:06] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I have 3 other PC's as well, one is a dev server for my work and the others I just fuck around with for testing and shit
[02:06] <PiedotTaste> umm
[02:06] <PiedotTaste> which program do you define as "Nero"
[02:06] <ompaul> nd0627, sudo gedit file    {you don't have the permissions as a standard user}
[02:06] <PiedotTaste> there are lots of programs ...
[02:06] <PiedotTaste> xD
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !teapop
[02:06] <ubotu> teapop: Powerful and flexible RFC-compliant POP3 server. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 264 kB
[02:06] <RvGaTe> http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.avi  <-- thats my problem, trying to fix this over a month now...
[02:07] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I should try to cut back in my machines lol... I'm looking to sell my Sager laptop... it's a badass laptop that is fully loaded and still under warranty. I bought it for $2500
[02:07] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: either Nero Express or Nero Burning ROM/
[02:07] <PiedotTaste> Theres loads of files it installed calling themself "Nero x, y and z"
[02:07] <nickspoon> whichever one is there.
[02:07] <trevXOR> Guys, the slowness of the internet on Ubuntu is almost killing me. I've disabled ipv6 globally, registered my isp DNS, and yet it takes too long to resolve anything--wget, firefox..all the same. More pointers, pretty please?
[02:07] <ompaul> RamiKassab, well if you looked at evolution as your mail client you might be surprised at what you can do with it
[02:07] <Bruno> hello, anyone to help me ?
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> Nero Burning ROM doesn't have "Burn Image" under "File"
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> :x
[02:08] <Bruno> when i want upgrade my ubuntu i have it :  unable to open files list file for package `libtotem-plparser1': Input/output error
[02:08] <Bruno> an idea ?
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> aha
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> wait
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> if i click File->New Compilation
[02:08] <ompaul> Bruno, upgrade from what to what?
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> i get a window that has stuff
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> and one of the things says:
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> CD-ROM (ISO)
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> ?
[02:08] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I have looke at evolution but from my search I found it was hard to sync still... plus I love thunderbird. if I were to use evolution I would just use it for calendar, notes, tasks, and contacts and use thunderbird for my mail
[02:08] <PiedotTaste> And if i click on that i get options i assume are to do with it...
[02:08] <Bruno> ompaul: apt-get upgrade
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> iso recoreder is only a little over 1 meg of download...
[02:09] <ompaul> Bruno,  not how, but, upgrade from what to what?
[02:09] <PiedotTaste> umm
[02:09] <PiedotTaste> i'm just gonna try and do this
[02:09] <PiedotTaste> if it's wrong it's wrong
[02:09] <PiedotTaste> so i'll click burn...
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:09] <mybers> hello to everyone! question about DHCP and gateway settings. My eth1 is set =192.168.1.1(intranet), in the dhcpd.conf: the option router there is set to 192.168.1.1 as well using the same IP of eth1. What should I write in the subnet and netmask now? my range are 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.100
[02:09] <RamiKassab> ompaul: plus I have this cool app for my phone that automatically syncs via bluetooth at set intervals and if it's that hard to setup sync through even a USB cable in linux, bluetooth would be a whole other story! :)
[02:09] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: is there a File->Burn Image...?
[02:09] <RvGaTe> PiedotTaste, when using nero smartstart, go to Back-Up, and look for Burn image to disc ?
[02:09] <donrosin> i want a mail server!!!!!!11
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !teapop
[02:10] <ubotu> teapop: Powerful and flexible RFC-compliant POP3 server. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 264 kB
[02:10] <trevXOR> Um, help? Internet is just too darn slow and unbearable, and I don't want to drop linux just because of a small technical glitch that could otherwise be fixed.
[02:11] <donrosin> !hydrairc
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hydrairc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <donrosin> !irc
[02:11] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> trevXOR: Cant fix anything until you tell us the problem
[02:11] <donrosin> !ircd
[02:11] <ubotu> ircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB
[02:11] <obe> here there is italian people?
[02:11] <donrosin> is that an irc server?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[02:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:11] <obe> thanks
[02:11] <ompaul> RamiKassab, push in your usb bluetooth device and see what happens :)
[02:11] <donrosin> !no
[02:11] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> donrosin: I gave you info on a mail server...
[02:12] <unfknblvbl> trevXOR: open up /etc/resolv.conf and change nameserver to your ISP's primary DNS, then close any internet applcaitions and open up your webbrowser again
[02:12] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon
[02:12] <PiedotTaste> i've burn it
[02:12] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I actually have a cardbus usb device that's already in
[02:12] <mybers> hello to everyone! question about DHCP and gateway settings. My eth1 is set =192.168.1.1(intranet), in the dhcpd.conf: the option router there is set to 192.168.1.1 as well using the same IP of eth1. What should I write in the subnet and netmask now? my range are 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.100          anyone please? :-)
[02:12] <PiedotTaste> and i'm going to hope it works
[02:12] <PiedotTaste> if you could tell me how to try if it owkrs
[02:12] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: best of luck.
[02:12] <trevXOR> I have, see above. It takes too long to resolve hosts, and I can't get it to do anything. I disabled ipv6 and explicitely stated my dns servers, yet I witnessed no change whatsoever.
[02:12] <RamiKassab> ompaul: how can I see if it's recognized?
[02:13] <lassegs> is it just me or is the http://wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[02:13] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: if you open the CD in Windows you should see a set of folders. if you just see an ISO image, you've done it wrong ;)
[02:13] <RamiKassab> ompaul: I got a cardbus card because I don't like the usb dongle sticking out of the laptop all the time
[02:13] <sovieticool> i have a samsung 920N monitor and a NVIDIA 7800 GT TDH MY VIVO can help me someone to config my xorg.conf ??
[02:13] <sovieticool> this is my actual http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23743
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> trevXOR: Under your dns do you just have two ip's or other stuff as well?
[02:13] <ompaul> RamiKassab, look at the screen up beside the speaker icon
[02:14] <RamiKassab> ompaul: plus the cardbus card has an antenna that I can pull out and it lets me be almost 50 feet away and still work so I can use the net through the laptop and what not
[02:14] <trevXOR> Two IP's only, Jack_Sparrow.
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> I DID IT RIGHT NICKSPOON
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> :D
[02:14] <RamiKassab> ompaul: yeah the systray... there's nothing there. I would have seen that months ago when I installed ubuntu
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> The file has it in it :D
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> i mean
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> it's a load of folders
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> and stuff
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> :D
[02:14] <nickspoon> woo!
[02:14] <nickspoon> excellent :)
[02:14] <PiedotTaste> Now how do i use it as a liveCD? :o
[02:15] <sovieticool> i have a samsung 920N monitor and a NVIDIA 7800 GT TDH MY VIVO can help me someone to config my xorg.conf ??
[02:15] <sovieticool> this is my actual http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23743
[02:15] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: reboot your PC with the CD in.
[02:15] <PiedotTaste> and it will just boot? o_O
[02:15] <PiedotTaste> Surely it's not that easy? :o
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[02:15] <PiedotTaste> It's THAT simple? :o
[02:15] <PiedotTaste> my god
[02:15] <PiedotTaste> Computers ARE simple without windows :o
[02:15] <PiedotTaste> ;D
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: and your XP is safe
[02:16] <PiedotTaste> Then i guess i'll be rebooting now :o
[02:16] <PiedotTaste> Talk soon, hopefully xP
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: That looks ok at first glance.  HOw did you install the drivers?
[02:17] <RamiKassab> damn has the Piedot guy never booted from a CD before?
[02:17] <sovieticool> i didn't install
[02:17] <RamiKassab> windows does that too lol
[02:17] <RamiKassab> it's kind of a computing basic
[02:17] <sovieticool> Jack_Sparrow, i don't know if i have the last version of driver
[02:17] <sovieticool> i do the update of ubuntu complete ;)
[02:18] <sovieticool> Jack_Sparrow, how to update or how to install the a new verion of nvidia software
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: Best to stick with the stable version..
[02:19] <sovieticool> i ask because i want to install XGL :)
[02:19] <sovieticool> maybe you help me guys
[02:19] <graveson> which combination of hardware and software could i use to convert VHS tapes to mpeg files ?
[02:19] <droogy> Every time I go into synaptic I get a message that it cannot upgrade checkinstall. any ideas?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: Would you mind posting your      gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list   to the pastebin
[02:20] <sovieticool> ok
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> graveson: alot depends on what hardware you already have...
[02:20] <Lozmir> hello! is there a domxml packet for php5?
[02:21] <blaa> how to use unrar-free
[02:21] <sovieticool> Jack_Sparrow, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23744
[02:21] <graveson> Jack_Sparrow: i have an ATI all in wonder (which i have given up on-since the fgrlx driver never works) ,however i am looking to purchase whichever hardware WORKS with Ubuntu
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> graveson: I have done it a number of ways.. I have used ati-all in wonder, I also have stand alone dvd writers
[02:21] <fjellrev1> I'm i desperate need of help,I just moved a link to the folder path of my second disk,and while it was moving it crashed and now there isnt much left on the disk :)
[02:21] <Nameeater> blaa: dpkg -L unrar-free | grep bin   will show all executables for the package, then do man <exec name> to find out how it works
[02:22] <graveson> Jack_Sparrow: where do find it easier and with the least amount of pain - and the quality is improved somewhat
[02:23] <donrosin> bash: gmake: command not found
[02:23] <donrosin>  <-- wtf?
[02:23] <mybers>  hello to anyone: subnet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination.. what is this? this is inside the dhcpd.conf
[02:23] <nickspoon> donrosin: apt-get it,
[02:24] <donrosin> apt get install gmake? :p
[02:24] <sovieticool> Jack_Sparrow, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23744
[02:24] <nickspoon> donrosin: it's that simple! :O
[02:24] <nd0627> @everyone: how would you know what files are shared between ubuntu and winxp ???
[02:24] <donrosin> nickspoon,  it coudnt find the package
[02:25] <nickspoon> :(
[02:25] <nickspoon> donrosin: synaptic search it then.
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> graveson: Walmart has a $200 polaroid unit, stand alone that is great for that.  Allows simple editing and has a hard drive that will hold 40 hours of quality video. and burns directly to dvd
[02:25] <nd0627> @everyone: how would you know what files are shared between ubuntu and winxp ???
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: looks fine...
[02:25] <nickspoon> donrosin: it may just be sudo apt-get install make
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[02:25] <sovieticool> k
[02:25] <graveson> Jack_Sparrow : thanks
[02:26] <donrosin> make is already the newest verision
[02:26] <donrosin> how do i run synaptic?
[02:26] <umop> Hi, Could someone please help me, I can't get php4 running with apache2
[02:26] <mybers> ndo627: look at the smb.conf.  gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf  and scroll down and look for [public]  etc...
[02:26] <Aspicus> quick question. more a general linux one than ubuntu.  i'm trying out a few distributions on a system with XP, ubuntu + 1 other linux distro.  is it safe/wise to just have one share partition for ubuntu and the other linux distro, or do i really need to set up one swap partition each?
[02:26] <Aspicus> *share partition should read swap partition
[02:27] <zaggynl> What I did was putting each on a different harddisk, and use my BIOS boot menu to choose between them, thus not screwing with each OS
[02:27] <pcn> Synaptic should be under System | Administration | Synaptic Package Manager
[02:27] <mybers> aspicus: you could check out using xen or virtual windows...
[02:27] <wizard_> do the developers know that firefox is crashing some users in 6.06 ? its happening to me and few others on forum?
[02:28] <Aspicus> what is xen/virtual windows?
[02:28] <nickspoon> Aspicus: seeing as you can't run two OSes at the same time, it should be fine.
[02:28] <Aspicus> thx nickspoon.  i'll give it a go
[02:28] <hjki> for me firefox is working on, but crashing when you go to the uk yahoo site
[02:28] <deep> bye
[02:29] <wizard_> after 10 mins using firefox pc freezes can move mouse but not click anything and kb doesnt respond. cant alt ctl backspace anything
[02:29] <pcn> zaggynl: what BIOS are you running?  Does it give you the option of multiple hard disks to boot from?  I've never seen that before.
[02:29] <droogy> Every time I go into synaptic I get a message that it cannot upgrade checkinstall the upgrade is being 'held back'.  any ideas?
[02:29] <hjki> is there anyone who can help me with an installation problem
[02:29] <zaggynl> Uhm I wouldn't know
[02:29] <Aspicus> doesn't grub allow you to book from any hdd?
[02:29] <mybers> www.xen.org its a virtual OS..it lets you to install run other/multi OS at the same time...
[02:29] <zaggynl> I have to press F8 at the start, else it will boot from the one I set up in the boot order
[02:30] <Aspicus> thx mybers - i'll take a look
[02:31] <mybers> yes it can thru grub but its a bit tricky and hard...but if you are testing Linux distros...u can try browsing virtual windows...
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: HAve not seen people with firefox problems..  DId you upgrade recently?  HAve you used Automatix or easyubuntu (NOt that you should)  have you changed to non-std repos?
[02:31] <droogy> I also get this error everytime I try to install libmjpegtools... see pastebin post under Andrew
[02:32] <donrosin> witch package do i need for gmake?
[02:32] <pcn> zaggynl: Cool, I've never seen a BIOS that let you choose a specific hard disk to boot from.  I just use the default GRUB installation, which put my Ubuntu and Windows installations in the boot loader menu.
[02:32] <donrosin> !fmake
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <donrosin> !gmake
[02:32] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow: no upgraded from breazy to dapper and only freezes when i use firefox so i dont use it and all is good...   i reported the prob on forums and i'm seeing others with same problem freezing
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <hjki> is there anyone who can help me with an installation problem?
[02:33] <Aspicus> ask away hjki (not that i'll be able to help :P)
[02:33] <pcn> hjki: What's the problem?
[02:33] <techno_freak> how to get listen music player, am not able to get it through apt-get ?
[02:33] <donrosin> i need a package to get gmake to work? Can someone help me?
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: The distro upgrade can be a problem, too many things the users can change that the upgrade cannot account for is my guess..  So no repo changes, or scripts, no java, flash upgrades etc?
[02:35] <xsje> !fwlogwatch
[02:35] <ubotu> fwlogwatch: Firewall log analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-6 (dapper), package size 105 kB, installed size 372 kB
[02:35] <hjki> i am trying to boot up vers 5.10 on my old machine Aspicus , but it seems to hang when i get to install bas system stage. It seems to be working then all of a sudden it will just stop and report it cannot continue with error 1. where do i look to see what i need to do
[02:35] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  no appears to have happened before i installed java etc... repo's are standard
[02:35] <nickspoon> donrosin: cd /usr/local/bin && sudo ln -s ../../bin/make gmake
[02:35] <Aspicus> are you using graphical install or text?
[02:35] <nickspoon> that's all there is to it ;)
[02:35] <hjki> its a text install
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: SOrry, I dont have an answer.
[02:36] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  no probs :)
[02:36] <donrosin> ln: gmake: File exists
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: How did you upgrade /install jave flash etc?
[02:36] <alex_> can anyone help me on a problem with compiz
[02:36] <alex_> ?
[02:36] <donrosin> nickspoon,  ln: gmake: File exists
[02:36] <nickspoon> donrosin: well then it's there, and bash is a liar ;)
[02:37] <donrosin> hmmf
[02:37] <wizard_> umm i used that automatix thing.. but the prob existed before i used that :)
[02:37] <donrosin> can i install it? :p
[02:37] <alex_> I have GLIBC2.3.6 installed, but compiz requires GLIBC2.3.4
[02:37] <hjki> so far I tried to install it 3 times and each time it stops at the same point. which is install base system. so i tried to continue with installing the rest of the packages and it wont do that either.
[02:37] <Gilnim> is there a ATI Redeon X series support for Ubuntu 64bit?
[02:38] <Gilnim> * Radeon
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: The people that seem to have problems have all run those scripts, which is why I asked you that earlier..
[02:38] <Aspicus> hjki - have you tried reburning the install cd and trying the new one?  could be a bad burn.
[02:39] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  hmm i see.  but yeah it was crashing before i installed that :)
[02:39] <Aspicus> other than that, i have no idea. sry.
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: I understand... but I have no answer
[02:39] <droogy> How do I remove a package without removing the programs that have it as a dependency?  By default, Synaptic wants to remove the program that depends on a specific library.
[02:39] <hjki> no i havent tried reburning the cd. but my friend has been using this with no problems. can 2 machine be so different
[02:39] <dw__> i've just installed dapper on a hp pavilion dv9043ea and have some problems with booting. i installed the nvidia-glx drivers via aptitude and they seem to work ok. however, every second boot, i just get a black screen, nothing more. i can't even restart the notebook with ctrl-alt-del and i can't get into a virtual console either. anyone?
[02:39] <Paradoxx> !dapper
[02:39] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[02:39] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  no probs .. i might try uninstall of that stuff anyway if u dont recommend it
[02:39] <Paradoxx> !edgy
[02:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:39] <alphanaut> Updating compiz! Anyone?
[02:40] <alphanaut> XGL?
[02:40] <Paradoxx> !schedule
[02:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:40] <jrib> droogy: why?  that would just break all of those programs
[02:40] <S1NGH> any xgl experts on?
[02:40] <jrib> !xgl
[02:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: You cant just uninstall automatix.. you need to restore from a backup prior to running it..  MOst people dont seem to have one
[02:40] <droogy> jrib: I have having a problem with the package and simply need to reinstall it.
[02:40] <S1NGH> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23749 after reboot
[02:40] <Aspicus> hjki - i wouldn't have though so.  does the live cd work ok?
[02:40] <jrib> droogy: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package_name
[02:41] <droogy> jrib: I need to install from a different source.
[02:41] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  what if i complete remove in synaptics
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: Wont help
[02:41] <hjki> as far as i am aware i dont have the live cd, i didnt know/look to see if there was one for 5.10
[02:41] <jrib> droogy: sounds like a bad idea but maybe dpkg -r will let you remove
[02:41] <wizard_> can i ask why :)
[02:41] <hjki>  Aspicus :  as far as i am aware i dont have the live cd, i didnt know/look to see if there was one for 5.10
[02:41] <droogy> jrib: the error I get is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23748
[02:42] <Aspicus> hjki - it comes with the desktop dl
[02:42] <jrib> droogy: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:42] <droogy> jrib: 6.06 dapper drake
[02:42] <jrib> droogy: why does the deb have "sarge" in its name?  are you using debian repos?
[02:43] <Aspicus> *i think - it does from drapper anyway*
[02:43] <Aspicus> &dapper
[02:43] <droogy> jrib: that the alternate source... some repositories that have more updated multimedia programs/encoders etc.
[02:44] <hjki> Aspicus: ok , i will try downloading it again and see if its a cd problem.  ( ps 5.10 is breezy, not sure if that was for me )
[02:44] <jrib> droogy: using debian repositories is asking for trouble, as you can see
[02:44] <_Roman> I am running ubuntu 6.06, I have a problem with mplayer, the playback is really jerky.  I also get an error Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".  how can I fix this.  (I have already installed the x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev package in Synaptic)
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: Once you run automatix and it install things from outside the Ubuntu repos there is no going back to the wway it was, and you will not find any help in Automatix.  We tell people NOT to run those scripts.  We tell the ones that insist on running them to back up first...
[02:44] <Gilnim> Is there a ATI Radeon X1600 support for Ubuntu 64bit (fglrx, ...)?
[02:44] <queuetue> Can someone point me towards some wireless network debugging information?  The card can see the access point, but nothing I am doing is allowing me to ping through it.  Where are problems reported?
[02:44] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  good idea.. i see thanks
[02:44] <nickspoon> !64
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless
[02:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <Hobbsee> !wifi > queuetue
[02:45] <droogy> jrib: yes I suppose.  the ubuntu repositories had version .5 of a program that this repo had .98 stable...
[02:45] <nickspoon> !x86_64
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x86_64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <nickspoon> :(
[02:45] <queuetue> Hobbsee: Isn't that the site that's down?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> er, good point
[02:45] <droogy> jrib: my alternative is to just remove that repository at this poitn.. the program works now.
[02:46] <hjki> Aspicus: thx
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> wizard_: We are happy to help you install anything you need to install.  Just ask..  But please dont run those scripts..
[02:48] <umop> Hi, Could someone please help me, I can't get php4 running with apache2.  When I access a php file the browser aatempts to dlwonload the file instead of displaying it
[02:48] <wizard_> Jack_Sparrow:  sure ok thanks mate
[02:48] <_Roman> Can anyone help me with my mplayer problem?
[02:48] <Aspicus> np hjki. sry i couldn't be of more help.
[02:49] <droogy> jrib: could you quickly look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23751 to see if you can think of a solution?
[02:49] <arni> I`d like to buy printer HP Laser Jet 1018 and how does it work in ubuntu 6.06
[02:49] <jrib> !print
[02:49] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy: did you paste your sources list to the pastebin ?
[02:50] <itrebal> how do i change my system keyboard map (not just X)
[02:50] <droogy> jack_sparrow: I can... one sec.
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> arni: my hp100 works like a charm, didnt need to do anything , just plug and play
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> hp1100a
[02:50] <jrib> droogy: try updating from a terminal with apt-get and see if it gives you more info
[02:51] <arni> tnx
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> arni: I found a place in texas that had them for $75 refurbished better than new.  got three for my wifes office
[02:52] <droogy> jrib: I've done that... it just says the upgrade was 'held back'
[02:52] <arni> hp1100a lpt, lj1018 usb
[02:52] <droogy> jack_sparrow: my sources.list is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23752
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy: looking now...
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy: that was easy... another happy automatix user
[02:53] <jrib> droogy: try removing checkinstall and installing it
[02:54] <droogy> jack_sparrow: sarcasm in that remark?
[02:54] <GyrosGeier> hi
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy: Yep... people keep using that garbage and comming here with their problems
[02:54] <pau1> hi
[02:55] <droogy> jack_sparrow: I've never had a problem with it... that is unless it causes this checkinstall problem.
[02:55] <pau1> this is my first time here!:)
[02:55] <GyrosGeier> I'm reinstalling an Ubuntu system, and as my network is a lot faster than any CD-ROM I have (plus the error correction appears to work better), I wonder whether it's a saner thing to install Debian with a businesscard CD first and "upgrade" to Ubuntu, or whether there is a netinst CD one could use for that
[02:56] <jrib> umop: did you enable the php4 mod in apache?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy: the problems it causes are not always immediately visable... it shows up later in odd ways and problems like yours
[02:56] <umop> jrib: I don't know, how do i do that?
[02:57] <jrib> umop: well first, is libapache2-mod-php4 installed?
[02:57] <umop> yes
[02:57] <jrib> umop: ok, sudo a2enmod php4
[02:58] <droogy> jack_sparrow: you can deny its attractiveness to newcomers to ubuntu.. it would probably take days to install what it does for you.
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> PEople, Please... Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[02:58] <umop> jrib: This module is already enabled!
[02:58] <droogy> jrib: thanks... i think that worked.
[02:58] <pau1> Hi!! This is probably an easy question: I would like to ask for help about libsndfile, which I would like to install additionally in /usr/local (need the newest version) - when I run some of the example command line apps they load load the old lib version in /usr ...
[02:59] <jrib> umop: hmm, have you tried clearing your browser's cache of the page and reloading?
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy:  It does not take DAYS ...just some people want that instant fix...
[02:59] <droogy> jrib: it needed to remove 'installwatch' in order to upgrade
[02:59] <umop> jrib: I have, but i'll try again..
[02:59] <jrib> umop: my next question is, have you restarted apache?
[02:59] <pau1> Can I tell the linker to look in /usr/local/lib first?
[03:00] <droogy> jack_sparrow: i disagree... i've gone to ubuntu twice now.. the first time I was not aware of automatix and after days I still did not have nvidia drivers working and numerous other things.
[03:00] <umop> jrib: Yes, resarted apache and cleared cache, still no luck
[03:01] <umop> jrib: perhaps there is something else that needs to be restarted
[03:01] <xvxvx> hey, anyone know the location of the gnome battery applet icons?
[03:01] <jrib> umop: make sure you are using apache2?  sometimes people install apache too and then apache serves the apges instead
[03:01] <droogy> jack_sparrow: I do see your POV though... 'quick fixes' are never the best way to do something.
[03:02] <umop> jrib: It is using apache2, I ahve installed and used php4 with it a few time with no problems..I'm not sure what's going on
[03:02] <gean> all i've tried to install ubuntu on a brand new laptop FAILED! the live or live+install cd (both) cannot detect my cd-rom... The topic http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4447.html (best i get) could also not help... i'm desperate... since i need tommorow a fully working operating system, i need to put something else on th mashine... any new idea, last call ?!
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy: You are entitled to your opinion.  But we show people how to do things themselves, we teach them things they need or should know how to do in the process.
[03:03] <jrib> umop: yes, strange.  I don't know anything else to suggest
[03:03] <droogy> jack_sparrow: are you aware of a good faq or walkthrough sort of like... so you've just installed ubuntu for the first time... this is what you need to do...
[03:03] <gean> (more than 3 days trying to install any type of ubuntu, from any distribution)
[03:03] <umop> jrib: that's fine, thanks for helping
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> droogy: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:05] <unfknblvbl> weird bug: if i come out of a screen-saver [one of the openGL ones] , in less than 1 minute ubuntu will freeze
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: It will not boot from the cd?
[03:05] <unfknblvbl> and lol to ubuntu being spelt incorrectly according to gaim
[03:06] <Flannel> gean: do you have a second system you can netinstall from? or, something of the sort?  Or a working OS on it currently?
[03:06] <droogy> jack_sparrow: what about a guide to 'detox' from automatix?  maybe we need one of those too! hehe.
[03:07] <eXpLo|OuT> salve!
[03:07] <Flannel> droogy: no, there's no easy way.  since they don't use the same packaging etc
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: Does it get to the first screen start or install ubuntu?  Have you done the cd self test?  Have you tried F6 and the different boot options, have you tried unplugging any usb stuff that may be attached to your lappy
[03:07] <Flannel> droogy: really, the best way to get rid of automatix is to do a fresh install.
[03:07] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: the CD is recognized first, it gives me the menu, then (ONLY in the alternate-i386 cd, but no desktop one) it needs ``modules'', tried them ALL, here it fails...
[03:08] <droogy> flannel: that's a daunting task...
[03:08] <Flannel> gean: this the 6.06 or 6.06.1 CD?  the latter fixes a few installer issues, you might try it.  No guarentee though
[03:08] <Flannel> droogy: well, that's why we tell people not to use automatix, because there's no mulligans.
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: If it boots to the first menu of alt cd there is no reason it should not boot to the first menu of the desktopcd, did you burn the discs yourself, have you tried them on a different pc?
[03:08] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: CD test is also giving me the same black screen error message
[03:09] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: tried all tricks with ALT-F2, ALT-F1
[03:09] <RvGaTe> http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.avi  <-- thats my problem, trying to fix this over a month now...
[03:09] <Lenny1729> I have problem with my Nvidia Geforce 2 MX 400, modprobe nvidia says "no such device" but I have one in my computer. Any suggestions?
[03:09] <FHW-Zossen> can anybody help me with ntfs??
[03:09] <gean> Jack_Sparrow, Flannel: tried all BIOS-setup, but, since my laptop is very cheap, not too many such variables can be changed
[03:09] <Gilnim> ntfs is baad
[03:10] <jrib> !helpme
[03:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:10] <FHW-Zossen> have 2 x 300 GB ntfs drives full with data
[03:10] <FHW-Zossen> :-(
[03:10] <Flannel> FHW-Zossen: just want to read?
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: If the cd test does not go through, then you are not getting good burns..  have you tried checking the md5 checksum?  What program are you using to burn them?
[03:10] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: IT does: only text install from alternate cd gives me ``a step furtehr''..
[03:10] <FHW-Zossen> no read and write
[03:10] <Flannel> FHW-Zossen: writing is a problem, unless you're looking to gamble with that 600gb ;)
[03:10] <ootput> is there a way to force dpkg to remove or upgrade a package without checking the results of the package's corresponding init script exit code? I can't seem to upgrade mdadm because my root partition lies on a raid array, and mdadm can't be stopped because of it.
[03:10] <FHW-Zossen> but have read that its not safe ? is that right ?
[03:11] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: I have the 5.10 disc, that was installed on the mashine i'm chatting now from...
[03:11] <Gilnim> FHW-Zossen, if you want to write on those disks it's pretty unsecure
[03:11] <Flannel> FHW-Zossen: reading is safe
[03:11] <der0b> is there any way to prevent kde from messing with my gtk themes?  this was a kubuntu machine, I installed the ubuntu-desktop and the kde gtk settings are preventing me from changing menu fonts without making the change in kcontrol
[03:11] <Flannel> !tell FHW-Zossen about ntfs
[03:11] <Chousuke> FHW-Zossen: there is a beta ntfs FUSE driver that can write and should be safe.
[03:11] <Chousuke> at least the devs say that it just refuses operations that would be unsafe.
[03:11] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: i also tried ubuntu, kubuntu, old dvd-burned version...
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: Did you try the cd self test on that cd?  Did you try that cd on your laptop?
[03:12] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: md5 sums were checked!
[03:12] <boink> hello
[03:12] <FHW-Zossen> ok - so i need a new harddisk - but reading is 100% safe ?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: So you have checked the md5 and you have a good file, but what we dont know is if you have a good burn.
[03:13] <Flannel> FHW-Zossen: yes, reading is safe
[03:13] <kendals> Will Edgy support my Logitech USB microphone, since Dapper doesn't without massive fiddling, and even then, not by most programs...?
[03:13] <FHW-Zossen> thx for info
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> kendals: Best if you ask them
[03:14] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: the old 5.10 distro installed with NO problems on this mashine... the other one (new laptop) seems to be part of a long google and/or ubuntu topic! CD-RO is not recognized, tells me about loading modules, trying them all. No chance. Since i'm getting that far with the same error message in ALL distributions, it cannot depend on ONE cd..
[03:14] <BlueEagle> I am attempting to make snort log packages that are tcp and are not on port 22 and are not on port 6667. I thought the rule "log tcp any !22,!6667 <> 10.0.0.0/24 !22,!6667" should do the trick, but I get "ERROR: /etc/snort/test.rule(1) => Invalid port: 22,!6667". Does anyone know how to specify multiple ports in snort rules?
[03:14] <BlueEagle> The documentation is driving me slightly mad. :)
[03:15] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: yes, the iso file is on storage media, was burned with both linux and later Windows..
[03:15] <snedar> hi! to make my webcam work, I have to do sudo chmod 777 /dev/video0 afte every reboot. is it possible to set the permissios automatically when booting?
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kendals: Did you try the 5.10 cd that is known to work .. on the laptop?
[03:16] <BlueEagle> snedar: commands to be run at boot time or runlevel change goes into /etc/rc.local afaik
[03:16] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, the same error! 5.10 that perfectly installd on this mashine givs THE SAME stuck point!
[03:16] <BlueEagle> snedar: hang on. That's not right. :/
[03:17] <BlueEagle> snedar: who is the owner and which group does /dev/video0 belong to?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: ok...  If you have the bandwidth, I might get flamed for this.. but try Knoppix...  It worked on two laptops when everything else failed.
[03:18] <BlueEagle> snedar: because it might be sufficient to add the user to the video group.
[03:18] <snedar> BlueEagle: root:video
[03:18] <BlueEagle> snedar: then I recomend you use usermod and add the user to the video group.
[03:18] <kendals> Jack_Sparrow: 5.10 would be terrible to use compared to 6.06 :P
[03:18] <hypnox> can someone tell me h ow to restore a package's default config file?
[03:19] <BlueEagle> snedar: (hint: the command `groups` will show you which groups you are already a member of.
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> kendals: We know, but it was a test of his cdrom more than trying to install it.
[03:19] <jaytee> I love Ubuntu on the desktop but I have a full working version of Damn Small Linux using Knoppix on a 256MB USB key
[03:19] <kendals> Oh, sorry- thought you were suggesting I use 5.10 for my USB mic ;)
[03:19] <kendals> How can I ask the Edgy guys? And would I get a response?
[03:20] <jolt> Still trying to plug through Alsa/JACK/USB Audio and any ideas when we are gonna see some backports of say Firefox?
[03:20] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell kendals about edgy
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> kendals: #ubuntu+1
[03:20] <kendals> ta :)
[03:20] <jolt> Audio under Ubuntu is still very twitchy
[03:20] <BlueEagle> np
[03:20] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: knoppix was also some 2 hours on the HD. My experience with knoppix is: it is all beautiful, till one has to update packages, then it takes sometimes 10 minutes to boot ... can i run knoppix with the ubuntu software packages (or there are software conflicts, so better not add ubuntu packages to the sources,list) ?!
[03:20] <snedar> BlueEagle: ah, I'm not in the video group indeed, so I'll do that. thanks for your help!
[03:20] <BlueEagle> snedar: No problem. :)
[03:21] <BlueEagle> snedar: As a general rule: When you need to chmod something in /dev to make it work it's probably a group issue. ;)
[03:21] <snedar> ok, I'll remember that :-)
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: instead of going there... I would try Mepis 6, it uses our repos.. if it will detect your hardware
[03:21] <sovieticool> what is the password of automatix ?
[03:22] <boink> is this also the channel to ask about ubuntu server too?
[03:22] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: ok, is Mepis 6 strongly based on ubuntu ?!
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: No password....
[03:22] <sovieticool> don't work
[03:23] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell sovieticool about automatix
[03:23] <RvGaTe> http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.avi  <-- thats my problem, trying to fix this over a month now...
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: Yes, but kde .. though you can add gnome if you prefer,  check out #Mepis
[03:25] <BlueEagle> rvgate: Your problem is that you've got the windows background on your linux desktop? o.O
[03:25] <itrebal> how do i change my system keyboard map (not just X)
[03:25] <[LFT] Brandschiff> Hallo
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello and welcome
[03:26] <RvGaTe> BlueEagle, you never used windows before, becouse thats not  the standard windows backgroun
[03:26] <gean> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the hints! i'll give Mepis a try (looks like a 60 minuts download) ! i'll have to quit soon this xchat and plug in into the other laptop...
[03:26] <[LFT] Brandschiff> hi can anyone speak German?
[03:26] <gean> bye all, may the spirit of ubuntu be with u !
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:26] <RvGaTe> [LFT] Brandschiff, you can better ask your question in english over here... more change to get an answer
[03:26] <Meroigo> HHow do I get the network to show up in the Open File dialoge?
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the language abbreviation for german  Gm... gk
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> RvGaTe: YEs, we are a better group
[03:28] <[LFT] Brandschiff> But my english is terrible and i don't know how i can ask what i want in english
[03:28] <Chousuke> Jack_Sparrow: de?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !de
[03:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> #gm
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !gm
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell [lft] brandschiff about de
[03:29] <[LFT] Brandschiff> Yes thanks
[03:29] <J-_> what's a good printer to use in Linux that's not too expensive? i'm gonna buy one today, my lexmark doesn't work. =\
[03:29] <RvGaTe> Jack_Sparrow, uts de.... deutchland :P
[03:29] <BlueEagle> oh.. he already got that. :)
[03:29] <ikonia> J-_: most HP's are fine
[03:29] <jolt> Uh.. anything supported by CUPS or the HP driver
[03:29] <lfhb> hello there how do i configure wireless on x686 smp. It is working fine on x386 kernel help
[03:30] <ikonia> 386/686 driver is the same
[03:30] <boink> www.linuxprinting.org
[03:31] <lfhb> ilonia: i would think so but i dont see my network at all when i boot to x686 kernel
[03:31] <lfhb> opps ikonia sorry missspelled
[03:31] <ikonia> lfhb: there must be more to it than that
[03:32] <itrebal> how do i change my system-wide keyboard map (not just X) permanently
[03:32] <boink> can you choose your own window-manager in Ubuntu? or must you use gnome?
[03:32] <ikonia> X and console are different not system wide
[03:32] <ikonia> boink: same as any other distro
[03:32] <boink> ta
[03:32] <ikonia> just setup the desktop to use the window manager/desktop you want
[03:33] <C-O-L-T> how to change splash screen?
[03:33] <lfhb> ikonia: i reinstalled from the beginning thinking my machine is aloof...
[03:33] <ikonia> ubuntu has packages for gnome/kde/xfce
[03:33] <boink> like in debian, I suppose :P
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> boink: You can install different ones, I have gnome, kde and Ice from options screen where I login
[03:33] <boink> and is there windowmaker too?
[03:33] <boink> sorry, I don't have an ubuntu box to do an apt-cache search
[03:33] <ikonia> lfhb: errrrrr don't know why re-installing because your thinking your machine is slow ??
[03:34] <fulat2k_> is there a way to make gnome's widgets make less "poofy" in ubuntu?  it just occupies a lot of space.
[03:34] <boink> on the ubuntu server, is there the normal root passwd like on any other server system?
[03:35] <lfhb> ikoina: i just came from windows... so i used cardinal rule in windows.. reinstall lol :) i had done some add/remove so maybe something was missing is what i thought...
[03:35] <boink> reinstalling is one way to learn, though.
[03:35] <boink> we all make mistakes
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !root > boink
[03:35] <ikonia> boink: just set the password
[03:35] <boink> like on debian
[03:36] <ikonia> no
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> boink: Adding root password is not advised
[03:36] <boink> even on the server?
[03:36] <Tinned_Tuna> hi
[03:36] <treffer> boink: especially on a server
[03:36] <boink> ok
[03:36] <ikonia> I disagree. I always have a root password , but that is just personal
[03:36] <dw__> if i plug in a headset into a hp pavilion dv9000 series, dapper/gnome just continues to play musik through the speakers. do i have to set something special to listen the musik with the headset?
[03:36] <Schulze> Hello
[03:37] <boink> that's been my habit too
[03:37] <dw__> or is this a bug?
[03:37] <boink> I even use wheel group with the root passwd
[03:37] <ikonia> dw__: thats a motherboard issue
[03:37] <fulat2k_> ikonia, i guess it's ok to have one; but just don't su to root.  just stick to sudo
[03:37] <GyrosGeier> dw__, USB headset?
[03:37] <dw__> ikonia i have a nforce chipset. are there special drivers available?
[03:37] <ikonia> fulat2k_: thats just my personal taste
[03:37] <ikonia> dw__: no - its a motherboard limitation normally
[03:37] <dw__> no usb, ordinary headset
[03:37] <ikonia> not a driver issue
[03:37] <jolt> you have to do a ton of voodoo to get USB audio devices to work
[03:38] <fulat2k_> ikonia, i know ;)  just telling u mine :P
[03:38] <Meroigo> Why doesn't servers I've connected show up in VLCs open file dialogue? it's really annoying. most multimedia things i have is located on another computer in the network :S
[03:38] <ikonia> fulat2k_: thats fine
[03:38] <treffer> i have a root pwd on my desktop system (and use su -) but not on my server,
[03:38] <dw__> hm, does that mean, i can't listen musik via headset? hm...
[03:38] <ikonia> one of th emain things on linux is use it how you work
[03:38] <ikonia> no
[03:38] <ikonia> dw__: no
[03:38] <ikonia> it means you have to unplug your speakers
[03:38] <fulat2k_> ikonia, but regardless, all dev servers in my company has root access wide open
[03:38] <Tinned_Tuna> heya, does anyone know where to find a full list of usb wifi dongles?
[03:38] <m4ch0m4n> http://unsecure-os.net
[03:38] <ikonia> Tinned_Tuna: kernel docs
[03:38] <omar> hey guys, how are U?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> fulat2k_: that is asking for problems..
[03:39] <dw__> ikonia i can't unplug the speakers of a notebook. or can i?
[03:39] <omar> look I need help,
[03:39] <ikonia> ahhh a notebook.
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[03:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:39] <ikonia> must the speakers
[03:39] <Tinned_Tuna> ikonia: where is that?
[03:39] <ikonia> must/mute
[03:39] <fulat2k_> Jack_Sparrow, yups.  i tried to warn them, but too bad it felt on deaf ears.
[03:39] <omar> somebody here in my work uninstall konqueror, and I can't open any directory
[03:39] <ikonia> Tinned_Tuna: kernel source docs dir or on kernel.org
[03:39] <omar> what can I do
[03:39] <dw__> ikonia yes, pavilion dv9000 series...
[03:40] <Tinned_Tuna> ok
[03:40] <ikonia> dw__: mute the speakers
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> omar: step 1. stop people from uninstalling konqueror step 2. install konqueror. Concentrate on step 1.
[03:40] <dw__> ok, i'll try
[03:40] <omar> is there a way to install konqueror back
[03:40] <ikonia> on a note book usb doesn't break the circuit like plugging in the headset into the jack out socket
[03:40] <ikonia> omar: apt ?
[03:40] <nysosym> hmmm firefox 2.0 beta 2 is very very slow on Edgy Eft, known bug or a special problem?
[03:40] <omar> I even have the CD
[03:40] <omar> maybe that can help
[03:40] <ikonia> nysosym: its beter
[03:41] <ikonia> beta
[03:41] <ikonia> omar: re-install konqueror
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> apt-get install
[03:41] <omar> I try and I can't
[03:41] <omar> this is the error
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: How have you tried?
[03:41] <omar> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[03:41] <omar>   konqueror: Depende: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27) pero 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2 va
[03:41] <omar>              Depende: kdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27) pero 4:3.5.3-0ub
[03:41] <omar>              Depende: kdesktop (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27) pero 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2 va
[03:41] <omar>              Depende: kfind (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27) pero 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2 va a s
[03:41] <omar> E: Paquetes rotos
[03:41] <ikonia> omar: are you deaf ?
[03:41] <omar> apt-get install konqueror
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> nysosym: #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <ikonia> meet the dependencies
[03:42] <omar> ikonia: sorry
[03:42] <nysosym> ikonia: yes, although it is "normal" ?
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin > omar
[03:42] <omar> ikonia: I tried
[03:42] <ikonia> nysosym: its beta - so whats normal
[03:42] <dw__> ikonia no, that doesn't work. i muted the sound panel icon and as well the rhythmbox icon. can't hear any sound (good) but nothing via the headset either (bad)
[03:42] <omar> fyretrtr: yes
[03:42] <omar> fyrestrtr: yes
[03:42] <ikonia> dw__: sorry dude, never really thought of that senario on a notebook
[03:43] <[LFT] Brandschiff> Ok da ich windoof habe wo finde ich die Kernelparameter?
[03:43] <dw__> ikonia doesn't matter. thx anyway...
[03:43] <ikonia> dw__: sorry
[03:43] <[LFT] Brandschiff> soory wrong chan
[03:43] <NuclearWaffle> Hey, omar's still here. >.>
[03:44] <omar> yes I am here
[03:44] <omar> I am gonna kill the one who do it don't worry
[03:44] <omar> but I need it now
[03:44] <linopil> !root > linopil
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: please post your sources list to the !Pastebin gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list  and while you are at it make a backup of your sources list sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[03:44] <NuclearWaffle> Kill the one who did what?
[03:44] <Tinned_Tuna> kernel.org??
[03:45] <Tinned_Tuna> I can't find the docw
[03:45] <Tinned_Tuna> *docs
[03:45] <Tinned_Tuna> !wifi > Tinned_Tuna
[03:45] <omar> ok did it
[03:47] <omar> Jack_Sparrow: I've done it
[03:47] <omar> what else
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> We need the number
[03:48] <dw__> ikonia could it be worth to install the nforce drivers from nvidia?
[03:48] <ikonia> I don't see why, but if you want
[03:49] <paul11> hi! Any idea how to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[03:49] <J-_> !CUPS
[03:49] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:49] <omar> Jack_Sparrow: what number, I don't get you
[03:49] <polo> hai
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: When you use pastebin you get a reference number for us to locate what you pasted
[03:50] <polo> hai alefo
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: Like this   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23752
[03:51] <omar> Jack_Sparrow: How you use pastebin
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin > omar
[03:51] <doomer> can someone help me wit the config of x
[03:51] <omar> Jack_Sparrow: Yes
[03:51] <doomer> i have a screen thats working on 1140x900 and i ccant get it working
[03:52] <GyrosGeier> 1400x900 sounds more plausible
[03:53] <unfknblvbl> lol ubuntu printer support for HP: 30, for XeroX: 2
[03:54] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  I am really sorry , I think I am too new in this
[03:54] <unfknblvbl> 1140x900 sounds like a cube
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: You need to put forth a little effort and read how to use pastebin.. It is not that hard.
[03:55] <ootput> is there a way to force upgrade of a package despite what the post-install script returns (in this case, an error, and hence prevents a 'clean' update.)?
[03:55] <doomer> no cube
[03:55] <doomer> a wide screen
[03:55] <unfknblvbl> then 1140x900 cannot be widescreen
[03:55] <doomer> i read something about 915 hack
[03:55] <doomer> sorry
[03:55] <doomer> 1440x900
[03:55] <unfknblvbl> no need to be sorry
[03:56] <unfknblvbl> just helping you logically solve the problem
[03:56] <ootput> heh
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ootput: Have you changed your sources list manually or with a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu? (NOT recommending that you do.)
[03:56] <paul11> unfknblvbl: can I ask you something?
[03:56] <BlueEagle> paul11: Why don't you ask me instead?
[03:56] <unfknblvbl> coz i'm sexier
[03:57] <paul11> BlueEagle: ok
[03:57] <BlueEagle> unfknblvbl: ;D
[03:57] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[03:57] <paul11> BlueEagle: Any idea how to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH? :-P
[03:57] <doomer> thats not posible no network
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey.. wait... I'm sexy too...
[03:57] <unfknblvbl> lol
[03:57] <BlueEagle> paul11: like export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/library
[03:58] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23759
[03:58] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  there you go
[03:58] <POVaddct> !amarok
[03:58] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[03:58] <POVaddct> !mp3
[03:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <ootput> Jack_Sparrow: was that misdirected?
[03:58] <paul11> BlueEagle: but where to put?
[03:58] <SatanGolga> anyone who runs vmware and know how to add guest mode to 'display' options in xorg.conf?
[03:58] <Sick> hi i'm new to ubuntu/linux and simply want to change the WindowManager to ICEWM. Where can i do this in the GNOME GUI ??
[03:58] <BlueEagle> paul11: Well, that does depend a bit. When do you need it, and how often?
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ootput: No, I was asking you ... SInce you are having an update issue
[03:59] <BlueEagle> paul11: If you only need it once then stick it in a terminal and run the command that requires the library path.
[03:59] <BlueEagle> paul11: To set it every time you open a terminal stick it in ~/.bashrc
[03:59] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  think so, I just came to work and It was like that , but automatix is here in the system
[03:59] <ootput> Jack_Sparrow: oh, then no. i think it's just mdadm's error-checking when issuing post-install commands
[03:59] <paul11> BlueEagle: First of all, is it dangerous to permanently set it?
[04:00] <paul11> That's what I would like to do...
[04:00] <BlueEagle> paul11: You can always change it back. :)
[04:00] <BlueEagle> paul11: to set it every time you boot stick it in ehh.. hmm...
[04:00] <BlueEagle> paul11: Lemme find a suitable config file. :)
[04:00] <POVaddct> what has happened to libxine-extracodecs?
[04:00] <POVaddct> was it replaced by another package?
[04:00] <paul11> BlueEagle: cool! :)
[04:00] <doomer> unfk > xorg onley wil work on 1024x768
[04:00] <jrib> !info libxine-extracodecs
[04:01] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[04:01] <doomer> and will not see 1440x900 (i place tat in xorg.conf)
[04:01] <jrib> POVaddct: still there
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: as well as wine and more...
[04:01] <visez> what's the most appropriate way to replace xubuntu with kubuntu ?
[04:01] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  I am gonna check
[04:01] <POVaddct> jrib: ah, thanks. i forgot to enable multiverse
[04:01] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  yes
[04:01] <omar> Wine
[04:01] <lhds> guys i need to convert .doc textfiles to pdf files under linux. its for my father i just installed linux on his box and i need him happy please help me out
[04:01] <unfknblvbl> open it up in openoffice
[04:01] <unfknblvbl> and export to PDF
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: You need to get your office guru to fix that mess...
[04:01] <unfknblvbl> or saveas pdf
[04:01] <BlueEagle> paul11: I think /etc/rc.local should be a good place for it.
[04:01] <unfknblvbl> one of those
[04:02] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  really :(
[04:02] <lhds> i am running office 2003 on crossover
[04:02] <insane_alien> anyone know how to boot IBM rescue & recovery with GRUB?
[04:02] <lhds> with win fonts thats the problem
[04:02] <magnalAnal> i need help with my fresh ubuntu install.. The install never prompts me for a username, but it prompted me for a password. Then, when the install is finished i can't log in. Cause I suspect i don't have user, and root is blocked from loggin in?
[04:02] <Meroigo> I have two soundcards, one for the main sound for speakers/earphones andthe other one is an on board one that i use for the microphone (the other one's microphone thing is broken or something :P)... Can i choose that microphone will be from the board card but still have sound in the speakers? I can't find anything about it! I want to use Skype etc... >_<
[04:02] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  I was the first in Linux, everybody has windows here, even the computer guy
[04:02] <doomer> unfknbllvbl can we speak private
[04:02] <paul11> BlueEagle: would "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" be legitimate?
[04:02] <lhds> is there a pdf program that converts files to pdf? under linux?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: Then reinstall...
[04:02] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  that's a bad new
[04:03] <master_o1_master> hi, is it normal that Xorg uses 40-50% of the CPU ?
[04:03] <omar> Jack_Sparrow:  ok my friend, I will do that, thanks anyways
[04:03] <jrib> magnalAnal: maybe check /etc/passwd
[04:03] <Sick> how can i switch from Ubuntu 5.1 GNOME to ICEWM ?
[04:03] <magnalAnal> i can't access the machine at all..
[04:03] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the def user/pw on the live cd?
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: Dont use automatix.... Do a backup once you finish the install.  It only takes one line in a terminal
[04:03] <magnalAnal> is there no default user installed that should work?
[04:03] <jrib> magnalAnal: can't you choose "recovery mode" from the grub prompt?
[04:04] <Meroigo> I've asked like three or four different questions in this channel, every single one has been ignored :\
[04:04] <omar> ok
[04:04] <BlueEagle> paul11: I would think so.
[04:04] <Gilnim> my xchat uses 1%
[04:04] <omar> I will,
[04:04] <insane_alien> anyone know how to boot IBM rescue & recovery with GRUB?
[04:04] <magnalAnal> jrib: i just read that on a webpage here... i'll give it a try in a second.. im reinstalling ubuntu right now.. I thought i did something wrong the first time around.
[04:04] <BlueEagle> paul11: hold on
[04:04] <BlueEagle> paul11: have a look-see in /etc/environment
[04:04] <Gilnim> master_o1_master, my xchat uses 1%
[04:04] <BlueEagle> paul11: I think that would be a more prudent place for it since it is an environment variable. :)
[04:04] <BanskuZ> *cry*
[04:05] <paul11> BlueEagle: actually I tried that one - it does not work
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Meroigo: the answer to your last question is NO...
[04:05] <master_o1_master> Gilnim: well I said Xorg and not xchat :-)
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> insane_alien: please elaborate on your problem..
[04:06] <BlueEagle> paul11: You'll need to log out and log back in (and even restart the X-server) for it to take effect me thinks.
[04:06] <Sick> how can i switch from Ubuntu 5.1 GNOME to ICEWM ?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Sick: option where you enter your login
[04:06] <Gilnim> master_o1_master, I need some glasses
[04:07] <insane_alien> i can't access the rescue and recovery partiton since i started dual booting. XP has went tits up and i want to restore it
[04:07] <Meroigo> Jack_Sparrow: That suck. In windows you can choose what card you'll use for the microphone :(
[04:07] <Meroigo> isn't there some leet super sound settings program you can install? :P
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> insane_alien: since the restore will knock out your ubuntu... just boot a windows cd to command prompt and fdisk /mbr
[04:08] <Sick> Jack_Sparrow: Thx !
[04:08] <Xappe> insane_alien: hmm, never used arecovery partition myself, but I saw somewhere that you can add a line in grub for it (a similar line to the winxp entry) and boot from it that way...
[04:09] <doomer> someone anny idee ati grapichs on a resolution 1440x900
[04:09] <doomer> 915 hack is not working
[04:09] <insane_alien> and if i don't happen to have an XP disk?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Xappe: most of those recovery repairs, will rebuild everything including the main partition.
[04:09] <Gilnim> does somebody use Ubuntu for 64bit processors?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> insane_alien: bootdisk.com
[04:09] <insane_alien> i don't care if i lose ubuntu on the disk its a clone of my desktop one
[04:09] <Xappe> Jack_Sparrow: yes, but he asked for a way to use the recovery partition
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Xappe: agreed.  I was letting him repair his mbr to get back to his recovery partition
[04:11] <richee> Is there a deb package for the latest power manager ?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !powernowd
[04:11] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:12] <lfhb> ikonia: thanks for pointing me to right direction... I checked and think that restricted modules also is needed for x686 smp to work with wireless
[04:12] <richee> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[04:14] <richee> Jack_Sparrow: it's already installed :)
[04:14] <richee> I have been facing problems with gpm, either they show the incorrect icon or the notifications incorrect....
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> richee: If you must have the latest release, do yourself a favor and make a backup first...
[04:15] <Nameless12> can someone help me setup dovecot i have followed the ubuntu server guide and its just not working i think my path to my mbox dir is screwed up it keeps rejecting the password in outlook at the moment
[04:15] <richee> Jack_Sparrow: j
[04:15] <Otacon22> hi all, a my firend have a problem ,he have a SiS M650 grafic card, there are drivers for 3d acceleration on ubuntu?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> richee: Sorry, but I dont use that program
[04:16] <richee> Jack_Sparrow: huh? I just said ok :)
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:16] <BlueEagle> I am attempting to make snort log packages that are tcp and are not on port 22 and are not on port 6667. I thought the rule "log tcp any !22,!6667 <> 10.0.0.0/24 !22,!6667" should do the trick, but I get "ERROR: /etc/snort/test.rule(1) => Invalid port: 22,!6667". Does anyone know how to specify multiple ports in snort rules? The snort docs is making me go nuts. :/
[04:16] <dipnlik> hi all. i need a command like play/alsaplay/esdplay for psi to play sounds. which one os these is more appropriate and which package can it be found?
[04:17] <BlueEagle> !info esdplay
[04:17] <ubotu> Package esdplay does not exist in any distro I know
[04:17] <xjonex_> exit
[04:18] <BlueEagle> !info alsaplayer-esd
[04:18] <ubotu> alsaplayer-esd: PCM player designed for ALSA (EsounD output module). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.76-7ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:18] <BlueEagle> that would probably be the one you want dipnlik
[04:18] <BlueEagle> (provided you use ESD)
[04:18] <dipnlik> BlueEagle: i use the default, don't know what it is =\
[04:18] <ootput> how do i view a list of packages to download when I want to download missing packages of my system in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:20] <BlueEagle> dipnlik: does it work?
[04:20] <BlueEagle> dipnlik: is there any problems with it at all?
[04:21] <BlueEagle> dipnlik: Because if it works without any problems (and you find it comfortable) then it's the right one.
[04:21] <dipnlik> BlueEagle: sound is working fine =D
[04:21] <paul11> BlueEagle: I am back - stayed sane
[04:21] <dipnlik> BlueEagle: problem is: Psi needs a command to play its sounds
[04:21] <ootput> nvm, figured it out
[04:22] <paul11> BlueEagle: but it does not work...
[04:22] <BlueEagle> paul11: set|grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[04:22] <BlueEagle> paul11: try that in a terminal.
[04:22] <deadsoul> How can I make at (for ex. ygt at hotmail.com) in Ubuntu?Alt Gr+q does not work
[04:23] <paul11> BlueEagle: 'no response'
[04:23] <BlueEagle> paul11: environment|grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[04:23] <dipnlik> BlueEagle: it suggests the play command, which is not available. i remember that i've seen in other linux distros the play, alsaplay and esdplay commands
[04:23] <BlueEagle> dipnlik: well alsaplayer-esd is probably what you're looking for then.
[04:23] <dipnlik> BlueEagle: just need one of these in my machine, but don't know what package contains it
[04:23] <dipnlik> BlueEagle: i installed this one
[04:23] <sandy16> hi there
[04:23] <kovan> if i run make nothing happens, help please :s
[04:24] <dipnlik> BlueEagle: it has none of these =\
[04:24] <paul11> BlueEagel: bash: environment: command not found
[04:24] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell kovan about build-essential
[04:24] <BlueEagle> paul11: o.O
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> kovan: What are you trying to build/compile ?
[04:24] <BlueEagle> paul11: env|grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[04:24] <BlueEagle> paul11: that should help. :)
[04:24] <sandy16> can any body tell me how to configure telnet in ubuntu
[04:24] <unfknblvbl> don't use telnet
[04:24] <carpanta> Hello, how can i, from command line, view online the installed from for example apache, ( aptitude search 'apache2' show installed and not installed )??
[04:25] <unfknblvbl> !telnet
[04:25] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[04:25] <paul11> BlueEagle: it does, but its empty
[04:25] <BlueEagle> sandy16: I really, really, REALLY recomend you use ssh over telnet.
[04:25] <POVaddct> sandy16: why do you want telnet?
[04:25] <J-_> does the Hewlett Packard OfficeJet 6210 Colour Inkjet 4-in-1, work with ubuntu 6.06?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> paul11: Hmm..
[04:25] <_Spire_> J-_: is it USB?
[04:25] <kovan> i'm trying to build an app to enable additional keyboard keys of my laptop
[04:25] <paul11> BlueEagle: have you changed that var?
[04:25] <POVaddct> sandy16: or is it a embedded device you can only telnet into?
[04:25] <keescook> BlueEagle: I'm not sure snort will let you do multiple port negations.  :(  are you just trying to record the traffic?  You could use tcpdump instead?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> paul11: No, I have not.
[04:25] <BlueEagle> keescook: tcpdump it is, then. :)
[04:26] <scifi> whats the easiest to use administrator/front-end for mysql on ubuntu ?
[04:26] <BlueEagle> keescook: thanks.
[04:26] <sandy16> but ... is there any possibility os ssh in other os`s other than linux
[04:26] <deadsoul> How can I make at (for ex. ygt at hotmail.com) in Ubuntu?Alt Gr+q does not work. Thanks
[04:26] <ninix> anyone have an idea how to fix this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-195432.html
[04:26] <paul11> BlueEagle: What do you usually do when you install third party libs, that need override ubuntu ones?
[04:26] <kovan> Jack_Sparrow:  i'm trying to build an app to enable additional keyboard keys of my laptop
[04:26] <BlueEagle> sandy16: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:26] <keescook> BlueEagle: heh, okay, cool.  Yeah,    tcpdump -w traffic.pcap -ns 0 not port 22 and not port 6667      should do the trick.
[04:26] <jalla> allah
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> kovan: Got it, you want MM keys... sorry... not my area..
[04:27] <carpanta> Hello, how can i, from command line, view ONLY the installed packages of, for example, apache, ( aptitude search 'apache2' show installed and not installed )
[04:27] <J-_> _Spire_: it doesn't say
[04:27] <kovan> ok
[04:27] <Stevo> does anyone know how to properly set up wireless connections needing WPA encryption?
[04:27] <BlueEagle> keescook: and traffic.pcap would be the file to which tcpdump would log the traffic?
[04:27] <jalla> how do i install flash?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> carpanta: dpkg -l apache
[04:27] <_Spire_> J-_: well, how does it connect to your computer?
[04:27] <_Spire_> !flash > jalla
[04:27] <gnomefreak> jalla: enable multiverse repo and sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:27] <scifi> can anyone recommend an easy to use administrator/front-end for mysql on ubuntu ?
[04:27] <POVaddct> Stevo: you need wpa_supplicant and driver of your wireless card has to support wpa_supplicant
[04:27] <keescook> BlueEagle: correct.  the -n is to stop DNS lookups on the IPs in the traffic, and the -s 0 is to capture the entire contents of the traffic, not just the headers.
[04:27] <Stevo> jalla> the easiest way to install flash is getting "automatix"
[04:28] <paul11> BlueEagle: thanks to you first of all - I come back, when I can...
[04:28] <jalla> didn't work
[04:28] <[NP] Tangent> !automatix
[04:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:28] <deadsoul> How can I make this symbol ---> @  in Ubuntu? Alt Gr+q does not work...
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Stevo: Never say that
[04:28] <J-_> _Spire_: im looking at printers to buy. since my lexmark doesn't work.
[04:28] <Stevo> eh?
[04:28] <BlueEagle> keescook: ...and to make the file readable?
[04:28] <Chousuke> deadsoul: depends on your keyboard layout
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[04:28] <[NP] Tangent> yeah, I've heard Automatix can be a bad thing
[04:28] <jalla> yes
[04:28] <jalla> how do i do it then?
[04:29] <deadsoul> Chousuke mykeyboard' layout is  Turkish Q
[04:29] <ootput> Stevo: it's extremely easy.. up  until the point when it destroys your computer
[04:29] <ootput> ;)
[04:29] <keescook> BlueEagle: oh, what do read the file back?  I usually use ethereal (or, I guess, "wireshark" now...)
[04:29] <Stevo> i didn't have any problems...  and honestly, i was running Fedora for a few years and could never play .wma or .wmv but now i can...
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jalla: gnomefreak     already showed you
[04:29] <Chousuke> deadsoul: I have no idea about that.
[04:29] <POVaddct> gotta go
[04:29] <deadsoul> Thank you Chousuke
[04:29] <POVaddct> cu all
[04:29] <BlueEagle> keescook: I'll read the manual for the ASCII option. :)
[04:29] <[NP] Tangent> Stevo, it's illegal for me to get those codecs in the US, anyways
[04:29] <[NP] Tangent> so I figure
[04:29] <[NP] Tangent> what's the point
[04:29] <_Spire_> J-_: ah!
[04:29] <Stevo> Tangent> indeed it is.
[04:30] <ootput> [NP] Tangent: which codecs?
[04:30] <[NP] Tangent> plus all my stuff is AVI which I managed to get to work
[04:30] <Stevo> i guess i'm a regular pirate.  lol
[04:30] <[NP] Tangent> ootput, the WMA and WMV onces
[04:30] <carpanta> gnomefreak:  the command show packages without version, with state 'un' and 'pn', what this mean?
[04:30] <[NP] Tangent> anyways
[04:30] <keescook> BlueEagle: if you just want to see the traffic contents, I recommend "ssldump".  It's just like tcpdump, but has content-display options.  (don't let the "ssl" part make you think it only works on ssl traffic)  :)
[04:30] <Stevo> Tangent> it's ironic you say that.  i can't get .avi to play.  lol
[04:30] <[NP] Tangent> for Flash, the plugin is not too hard to install if you don't mind following directions
[04:31] <BlueEagle> keescook: Yeah, I am trying to figure out where my DCC connections are disappearing.
[04:31] <BlueEagle> keescook: I've set my shorewall to log everything but it just doesn't show up. :/
[04:31] <jalla> linux sucks!!
[04:31] <jalla> extremly much!
[04:31] <sysdoc> lol
[04:31] <[NP] Tangent> Firefox has a tutorial for it online, and I don't know about opera.. in Galeon the plugin just worked when I installed it
[04:31] <Gilnim> jalla sucks
[04:31] <BlueEagle> jalla: Then why are you here?
[04:31] <jalla> no .exe suport
[04:31] <_Spire_> J-_: try checking linuxprinting.org
[04:31] <BlueEagle> jalla: o'rly?
[04:31] <[NP] Tangent> oh but you're wrong!
[04:31] <[NP] Tangent> wine!
[04:31] <jalla> no
[04:31] <gnomefreak> carpanta: it should say at the top of the output of the command i gave you. also you can try synaptic and search apache
[04:31] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell jalla about wine
[04:32] <jalla> works in  of 100 cases
[04:32] <llamakc> at least jalla can count
[04:32] <jalla> try to run CS from whine....
[04:32] <[NP] Tangent> granted, not EVERYTHING runs in wine
[04:32] <keescook> BlueEagle: oh man, I hate tracking down lost traffic.  It's almost as bad as find those 1 character code bug typos.  :)
[04:32] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell jalla about cedega
[04:32] <llamakc> so what do you want jalla
[04:32] <_Spire_> _Spire_: they have a huge database of printers that work and don't work from linux
[04:32] <[NP] Tangent> Fruity Loops doesn't work right with it
[04:32] <[NP] Tangent> but many things do
[04:32] <jalla> nothing runs in whine, exept Picasa
[04:32] <Gilnim> i did
[04:32] <_Spire_> J-_: they have a huge database of printers that work and don't work from linux
[04:32] <llamakc> and IE
[04:32] <weswh-> is there any way to sort of "rake" over system memory - and see if any can be reclaimed that was in use before and the app was exited or whatever...or should i just trust the system to clean itself up? My memory usage (on 512) running xfce and a few apps keeps climbing higher (up to 380 currently). The thing of it is, I am using Azureus and seeding several torrents, so maybe that's what is doing it.
[04:32] <_Spire_> and WoW
[04:32] <jalla> wihoo, printers. so fun!
[04:32] <[NP] Tangent> ubotu, tell [NP] Tangent about cedega
[04:32] <Gilnim> jalla, Counter-Strike works with Wine perfectly
[04:32] <weswh-> just seeing if there is any admin work I can do to examine things. or even to see which apps are using how much memory
[04:33] <jalla> not source and steam
[04:33] <_Spire_> weswh-: Also check out www.linuxprinting.org.
[04:33] <yang_> 
[04:33] <Gilnim> jalla, it does
[04:33] <_Spire_> >.<
[04:33] <_Spire_> whoops
[04:33] <keescook> weswh-: when I'm curious about memory, I use "top" and hit "M" to sort by memory.
[04:33] <llamakc> jalla what should we do instead?
[04:33] <_Spire_> anyways, about wine apps: Also check out www.linuxprinting.org.
[04:33] <gnomefreak> !cz
[04:33] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[04:33] <_Spire_> grr!
[04:33] <[NP] Tangent> weswh-, I've heard that Azureus is a huge memory hog
[04:33] <_Spire_> >.<
[04:33] <ep_> Which is the preferred streaming media for firefox, totem-gplayer, totem zine or mplayer?
[04:33] <BlueEagle> jalla: cedega runs cs:s
[04:33] <jalla> cedega costs money
[04:33] <weswh-> [NP] Tangent: me too
[04:34] <keescook> weswh-: but, I'd agree with [NP] Tangent, it's likely azureus.  :)
[04:34] <_Spire_> ok, here: things that run in wine - appdb.winehq.org
[04:34] <jalla> windows is free
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !ch
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <BlueEagle> jalla: so does windows. Cedega costs less than windows does.
[04:34] <Gilnim> jalla, I played my Steam Counter-Strike several times on Ubuntu with Wine
[04:34] <jalla> windows is free
[04:34] <[NP] Tangent> I hve a friend who uses it and he continually restarts it because it's memory use keeps climbing up till it's using half of his 1GB of ram
[04:34] <BlueEagle> jalla: ehh... no it's not.
[04:34] <jalla> i comes with every computer
[04:34] <Gilnim> not legally
[04:34] <Gilnim> not always
[04:34] <[NP] Tangent> jalla, it's not free then
[04:34] <jalla> always
[04:34] <BlueEagle> jalla: So you think that a computer w/o windows would be just as expensive as a computer with windows?
[04:34] <llamakc> jalla comes with every computer
[04:34] <[NP] Tangent> they charge you on the computer for it
[04:34] <gnomefreak> jalla: windows is not free at all and is offtopic for in this channel please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <llamakc> what's a jalla?
[04:35] <jalla> Arabian word....
[04:35] <Gilnim> ihhh i don't want a jalla
[04:35] <Fraj> hi
[04:35] <Gilnim> means fast
[04:35] <llamakc> does it mean troll?
[04:35] <jalla> nope
[04:35] <Gilnim> oh ...
[04:35] <BlueEagle> llamakc: jalla is a scandinavian expression for something of inferior quality or just simple bulls#1t
[04:35] <Fraj> cna someone tell me how to install an application on ubuntu??
[04:35] <Gilnim> my bad
[04:35] <Fraj> as iv just download bittorent
[04:35] <llamakc> thx
[04:35] <Fraj> the linux version
[04:35] <Fraj> but i dont know how to install it
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Please dont let trolls bait you into offtopic discussions, this is a help channel
[04:36] <yang_> E
[04:36] <llamakc> ok
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Fraj: what app is it and what type of file
[04:36] <gnomefreak> yang_: join #ubuntu-cz
[04:36] <Gilnim> jalla, jalla  means: "Hurry up!"
[04:36] <Fraj> its a .rpm
[04:36] <BlueEagle> !cn
[04:36] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:36] <jalla> thats right1
[04:36] <Fraj> gnomefreak can i please msg you?
[04:36] <[NP] Tangent> Fraj, to install something, you will either need to compile it, or you can go into Synaptic Package Manager and find the package in there
[04:36] <yang_> 
[04:36] <Gilnim> !edge
[04:36] <BlueEagle> gnomefreak: Chineese is not Czeck :)
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <jalla> how do i insrall flash without automatix?
[04:36] <Fraj> how can i compile it?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Fraj: no please use the channel
[04:36] <SatanGolga> i'm running vmware:  how do i add guest mode 'display' in xorg.conf?
[04:37] <Fraj> ok sure
[04:37] <jalla> how do i insrall flash without automatix?
[04:37] <[NP] Tangent> jalla, what browser do you use?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> BlueEagle: yes i just looked
[04:37] <yang_> 
[04:37] <Gilnim> jalla, easy-ubuntu
[04:37] <jalla> firefox and opera
[04:37] <gnomefreak> !repos > jalla
[04:37] <lupine_85> SatanGolga: the driver is just called 'vmware'
[04:37] <[NP] Tangent> !easyubuntu
[04:37] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:37] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell yang_ about cn
[04:37] <jalla> easy ubuntu didn't work
[04:37] <gnomefreak> !flash > jalla
[04:37] <jalla> ?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> jalla: you have the 2 links you need to install it read your pms
[04:37] <Fraj> is there a site where it tells you how to compile?
[04:37] <SatanGolga> lupine_85: how do u mean?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> !compile > Fraj
[04:37] <Gilnim> !automatix
[04:37] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:38] <[NP] Tangent> Fraj, a README file usually will help you
[04:38] <jalla> how do i read pm?
[04:38] <[NP] Tangent> that's for the source code
[04:38] <gnomefreak> !repos
[04:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:38] <Fraj> where can i get the read me file?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> jalla: ^^^
[04:38] <BlueEagle> jalla: You need to register with nickserv to do that. /msg nickserv hello
[04:38] <gnomefreak> !flash
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <jalla> blah
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ^^6 jalla
[04:38] <lupine_85> SatanGolga: the x.org driver to use in a VMWare Virtual Machine is called 'vmware'
[04:38] <gnomefreak> BlueEagle: no he doesnt
[04:38] <jalla> piont and click is the way to go
[04:38] <BlueEagle> gnomefreak: no?
[04:38] <jalla> c# is the future
[04:38] <[NP] Tangent> Fraj, if you download the Source code downlod,it's in there
[04:38] <gnomefreak> BlueEagle: ubotu can pm anyone
[04:38] <Fraj> ok sure
[04:38] <Eruantalo1> I have a problem playing video on freshly installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake. I think the problem is Xv. But I can't remember how to disable Xv. How do I do that?
[04:38] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell jalla about mono
[04:38] <lupine_85> c# is the future... hated language
[04:39] <jalla> why i everything in Linux so hard?
[04:39] <yang_> ok thanks ubuntu servie tell me
[04:39] <gnomefreak> jalla: its not if you read
[04:39] <lupine_85> wow... no google search... no downloading... wow. that was easy
[04:39] <ep_> Which of the three firefox plugin options will serve me best (play the most porn), totem-gplayer, totem-zine or mplayer?
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted > Eruantalo1
[04:39] <SatanGolga> lupine_85: so i just add "vmware" along with the other resolutions like "1024x768"?
[04:39] <Howitzer> Does anyone know if it's possible to put all my Evolution mails in Thunderbird/Sylpheed?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> ep_: how can we tell you what will best fit you. we dont have a clue what you are looking to play
[04:40] <jalla> when i install Vista, everything works out of the box. When i install ubuntu i have to work for several hours to get it to work properly
[04:40] <Caplain_> what about vmware?
[04:40] <lupine_85> SatanGolga: you can have any resolution you want, as long as the host screen supports it
[04:40] <newpZ> hi i can watch vid clips with flash on youtube but not on webshots.. any suggestions?
[04:40] <lupine_85> the vmware is the *driver* - the bit that replaces, say, 'vesa'
[04:40] <Howitzer> because i want to switch over completely to a more light-weight mail-client without losing all my mails
[04:40] <Eruantalo1> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> jalla: installing flash takes no more than 3 minutes (that includes EVERYTHING)
[04:40] <Gilnim> Ubuntu RULES!!! :D
[04:41] <jalla> but how do i install flash????
[04:41] <gnomefreak> jalla: if you stop complianing and read its very easy
[04:41] <jalla> read where?
[04:41] <ep_> i don't know either, i play whatever I stumble across that interests me.  Its a broad range.  Thats what I'm looking for the one that plays a broad range of stuff.
[04:41] <gnomefreak> !flash
[04:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:41] <Gilnim> jalla, open synaptic and ask
[04:41] <SatanGolga> lupine_85: so i add a subsection called "vmware" ?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalo1: You asked about playing videos... I linked the place you need to start...
[04:41] <gnomefreak> jalla: ^^^^^ read that
[04:41] <gnomefreak> jalla: ubotu said something in the channel please read it and use the links to help you
[04:41] <Eruantalo1>  !restricted > Eruantalo1 ????
[04:42] <newpZ> did i miss something when i installed flash? myspace videos do not work
[04:42] <jalla> but why cant ubuntu come with support for flash, pdf, nvidia drivers and movie\sound codecs?
[04:42] <newpZ> just get sound
[04:42] <SatanGolga> lupine_85: heh, i mean do i switch "vesa" for "vmware" or do i just add "vesa" "vmware" ?
[04:42] <yang_> he he,every one speak in e~
[04:42] <gnomefreak> jalla: they are all non free apps
[04:42] <Otacon22> how can i format a floppy?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> jalla: by law ubuntu cant include them
[04:43] <jalla> what law?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> jalla: now please stop compaining and install flash
[04:43] <llamakc> fdformat works
[04:43] <yang_> "how can i format a floppy?" he he ~  format a: is write?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> jalla: the copywrite laws
[04:43] <sofus> how can i get "smb://123.131.42/" to work in Xubuntu?
[04:43] <yang_> dos command
[04:43] <gnomefreak> yang_: ubuntu doesnt use dos
[04:44] <derrickh> does anyone know to manually put gdesklets back in the systray?  i turned the option off (through the systray icon menu) and now i cant find where to turn it back on...
[04:44] <yang_> 555
[04:44] <Eruantalo1> Jack_Sparrow: How is that a link?
[04:44] <kendals> My Logitech USB microphone is seen in 6.06, but it won't record any sound :(
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalo1: You should have had a window open with the info you needed.
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:45] <Eruantalo1> Besides it is not the restricted formats I am having troubkle with. It is all videos and I have previously solved the problem. It was solved by disabling Xv
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalo1: 3 links actually
[04:45] <melon> is it possible to open an outlook express .dbx file in linux/ubuntu?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Eruantalo1 and jalla please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:45] <ep_> preferrably, I'd like a pluggin which allow me to switch from mplayer, gsrtreamer or xine.  Doesn't kmplayer do this?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> ep_: kmplayer is kde version of mplayer
[04:46] <Eruantalo1> gnomefreak: That is not my problem. Even ogg.theora files won't work.
[04:46] <IndridCold> Flash does work on my machine, just not the sound. What's the deal with that?
[04:46] <jalla> wihoo, it worked!
[04:46] <atraeyu_> I'm trying to enable NTFS support using the ntfs-fuse packages and having a problem anyone have a second to help?
[04:47] <ep_> is there a firefox plugin to turn flash on and off on the fly
[04:47] <gnomefreak> atraeyu_: read only?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> ep_: no
[04:47] <atraeyu_> gnomefreak: read/write, load on bootup
[04:47] <jalla> what law prevents flash form working out of the box?
[04:47] <sofus> damnit why wont smb://"ip"/ work in xubuntu?
[04:47] <atraeyu_> gnomefreak: I'd be happy just manually mounting it read only righ tnow though
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> atraeyu_: not a good idea
[04:47] <BlueEagle> keescook: May I /msg you? I need to ask a favour.
[04:47] <ep_> George Bush's law
[04:47] <Eruantalo1> gnomefreak: Someone in here told me to disable Xv but I can't remember where i did it.
[04:47] <Fraj> do all linux's have the sypnaptic?
[04:47] <sofus> no
[04:47] <jalla> no
[04:47] <atraeyu_> Jack_Sparrow: How come?
[04:47] <jalla> what law prevents flash form working out of the box?
[04:47] <BlueEagle> fraj: no.
[04:47] <derrickh> Eruantaltol: what video driver are you using?
[04:48] <Fraj> so how do people install apps with out the synap?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> jalla: read the copyright info on it at adobe.com
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> atraeyu_: Writing is not safe..  read only is fine  Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[04:48] <kendals> How do I set my Intel ICH6 as the default ouput, and my Logitech USB AK5370 microphone as the default input?
[04:48] <Eruantalo1> derrickh: Uhh Nvidia?
[04:48] <kendals> Right now, my mic is not recording anything at all.
[04:48] <jalla> how come microsoft/apple can include it?
[04:48] <kendals> despite it being seen and recognised as it's correct model in ubuntu
[04:48] <derrickh> Eruantalo1, it is an option in the xorg.conf file
[04:48] <gnomefreak> kendals: if its on edgy your in the wrong channel
[04:49] <gnomefreak> jalla: they pay for it
[04:49] <gnomefreak> jalla: they buy the rights to distribute it
[04:49] <jalla> ahh, ok
[04:49] <Fraj> soo..?
[04:49] <kendals> gnomefreak, running dapper 6.06
[04:49] <atraeyu_> Jack_Sparrow: That works for me fine, I'd like to just copy data from the drive at this point.  If I've edited fstab and installed the fuse packages, can I still install diskmounter?
[04:49] <Eruantalo1> derrickh: Last time I had a gui way of disabling it
[04:49] <vincenz> Hi
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> atraeyu_: It should still be fine, but uninstall fuse asap
[04:50] <derrickh> you cna also disable it in your video players settings
[04:50] <Eruantalo1> I thought it was in totem that there was a tab next to audio settings that said video settings. But there is no such tab
[04:50] <vincenz> There was an update on the fglrx-xorg packages, I installed them, and it seems the bugs still aren't fixed (the ones I had bypassed with a custom libGL.o object)
[04:50] <melon> apologies for the repeat.. but does anybody know a program (or method) that imports/extracts outlook express .dbx files?
[04:50] <atraeyu_> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks!  Will do.  Can I install diskmounter using synaptic and will it support NTFS by default?
[04:50] <ep_> could ubuntu buy the rights to distribute it and do so legally or would that also violate the GPL?
[04:50] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/nUBl1T70.html
[04:51] <RogerRabb> melon umm I believe you can use evolution or thunderbird
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> atraeyu_: go to that link.... save the link to your desktop etc
[04:51] <melon> i've tried both roger - neither work
[04:51] <RogerRabb> melon.. oh they claim support but don't work?
[04:51] <Eruantalo1> derrickh:  Is it possible that the settings tab for video has been removed from totem recently?
[04:51] <tomo666> can anyone help me with postFix? ive followed the basic setup and it works, now iam trying to get a basic virtual mail setup working. iv followed the docs from ubuntu wiki and tried many times for many weeks and reinstalled a few times aswell. any help will be greatly appreciated and iam also bit of a unix noob so be patien with me. when i send an email between my virtual domains no mailbox is being created in the mailbox base, can some1 look at m
[04:51] <melon> they only give options to import from installed programs - but oe is not installed
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> melon: I read you need to export outlook files to thunderbird
[04:52] <melon> i have a single dbx file
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> melon: that dbx wont help from what I read..
[04:53] <melon> hmm.. i'll continue to search for some kind of solution - hopefully there is a way.. thanks for your assistance :)
[04:53] <SatanGolga> lupine_85: heh, i mean do i switch "vesa" for "vmware" or do i just add "vesa" "vmware" ?
[04:53] <Eruantalo1> How do I disable Xv??
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> melon: You need to run thunderbird from windows..
[04:53] <melon> lol - figures :|
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Blame Outlook...
[04:54] <melon> i already threw windows to the trash
[04:54] <adminx> Good Morning
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> melon: read your dbx into someone elses outlook and export it to thunderbird from there
[04:54] <RogerRabb> Having a look now.. I read about it ages ago, when I first got into linux and wanted to shift all my outlook mail over and found basically it involved either transfering to outlook express then to thunderbird.. but then they still don't offer services to export in thunderbird last I looked.. Which is even worse than outlook!
[04:55] <adminx> What's new?
[04:55] <melon> seems that's the method i'll have to go with - thanks
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> RogerRabb: I thought thunderbird exported to comma delimited files... and NOTHING is worse than Outlook
[04:56] <trograin> Can anyone ehre help me with a smal problem (allways some problem everytiem I reinstall :D ) Managed to put my Dapper server version to run with dhcp. want to change that to Static. Now it aparently is NOT enouh for me to go in to the /etc/network/interfaces file and simply change from dhcp to static and add all the adreess, network, braodcast gateway info. What more do I have to do for it to work?
[04:56] <inglor> hey, what program is there for linux that handles the iPod?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> !ipod > inglor
[04:56] <inglor> what do you mean?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> inglor: read your pm from ubotu :)
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !gtkpod
[04:56] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[04:56] <adminx> gtkpod
[04:56] <inglor> oh thanks
[04:57] <adminx> works with ipod
[04:57] <inglor> I should have read the guide on the wiki
[04:57] <inglor> thanks a lot
[04:57] <adminx> there are lots
[04:57] <Eruantalo1> Anyone know how to disable Xv in Dapper Drake to enable video playback
[04:57] <_mike_h> hi all, i just ran apt-get update on edgy, now firefox ((1.99+2.0b2+dfsg-1ubuntu) wont start with the error i pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23760 - any ideas about how to fix? thanks :)
[04:57] <yang_> 
[04:57] <gnomefreak> _mike_h: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[04:58] <yang_> 
[04:58] <inglor> I already installed Amarok, so that might work
[04:58] <_mike_h> thanks gnomefreak
[04:58] <yang_> 
[04:58] <adminx> when you type firefox from term window what is displayed
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalo1: Psot your xorg to !Pastebin and someone may have the time to look
[04:58] <yang_> 
[04:58] <gnomefreak> !zh
[04:58] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:59] <mumbles> right question time - i have installed apche and setup mysql - i installed phpmyadmin and eveything restarted fine - but i cant get to it on local host
[04:59] <mumbles> any ideas why ?
[04:59] <yang_> 
[04:59] <LoRez> yang_: are you trying to say something?
[04:59] <Eruantalo1> Jack_Sparrow: What really bugs me is that there was a really simple way of diabling it from gui but forgot it.
[04:59] <inglor> mumbles, what do you mean can't get to do it on local host?
[05:00] <vincenz> There was an update on the fglrx-xorg packages, I installed them, and it seems the bugs still aren't fixed (the ones I had bypassed with a custom libGL.o object).  I get the same errors as before
[05:00] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/nUBl1T70.html
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> adminx: Firefox comes up
[05:01] <adminx> Then should be able to redo your shortcut with menu editor.
[05:01] <yang_> 
[05:01] <Eruantalo1> Jack_Sparrow: I don't think the problem is my xorg.conf because it is working for one user on the system
[05:01] <tomo666> can anyone help me with postFix? ive followed the basic setup and it works, now iam trying to get a basic virtual mail setup working. iv followed the docs from ubuntu wiki and tried many times for many weeks and reinstalled a few times aswell. any help will be greatly appreciated and iam also bit of a unix noob so be patien with me. when i send an email between my virtual domains no mailbox is being created in the mailbox base, can some1 look at m
[05:01] <Eruantalo1> hmm maybe i should copy the home directory of one user to the other
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Eruantalo1: Good luck with that, I dont have an answer.
[05:02] <Eruantalo1> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, but thanks anyway
[05:03] <inglor> I can't figure out how to use my nano
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> adminx: Sorry, I thought you were asking general question to all.. Sorry  :)
[05:03] <bonecracker> Hi, I've got the most recent Version of compiz, but If I try to start it, it says: XGL Present / Segmentation fault      - Has anyone a clue how to fix this?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> inglor: nano has instructions on the lower part of screen the ^ = ctrl
[05:03] <adminx> LOl, No problem.
[05:03] <Wanderingyouth> Using the LiveCD...my 3rd attempt at Linux :3
[05:04] <inglor> oh wait, rythembox did it on its own
[05:04] <inglor> no amarok needed
[05:04] <gnomefreak> inglor: when you see ^o you use ctrl and the 0 key
[05:04] <gnomefreak> o key even
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bonecracker: I take it you didnt get it from the repo's..
[05:04] <fatbrain> After the kernel-update I get crappy overlay playback, anyone noticed that?
[05:04] <inglor> wait, no it doesn't :/ it loaded the iPod and all its songs, but it won't play any
[05:04] <Sick> all my fonts looking very blurry :/ anyone knows the reason ? i'm using ubuntu 5.1 / the graphic driver is installed / the screen resolution is correct.
[05:05] <bonecracker> I've got an amd64 distri and did everything, how it was said in the german wiki of ubuntuusers
[05:05] <themassacre> hey
[05:05] <dtygel> hi folks. I have 4 partitions in my PC right now, and I would like to shrink hda1 without loosing data on it and include a "hda5" there. My actual system is the following: hda1:winXP; hda2:Dapper; hda3: data-partition; hda4: swap
[05:06] <gnomefreak> inglor: rythembox on dapper is not built for ipod you would have to compile it. edgy's rythembox will have ipod support when its released
[05:06] <dtygel> I've already defragmented hda1, and all its data are at the beginning. Using Gparted doesn't permit me to resize hda1
[05:06] <inglor> ny rythembox on dapper seems to support the iPod, but doesn't seem to be able to play .mp3 files :O
[05:06] <inglor> any idea why?
[05:07] <bonecracker> Jack_Sparrow: got it from "deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ dapper main-amd64"
[05:07] <inglor> vlc can play the songs rythembox fetches
[05:07] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know if I can have a transparent terminal without using xgl in ubuntu
[05:07] <inglor> but rythembox doesn't let me play the files, it doesn't seem to support playing mp3 files for some reason
[05:07] <inglor> !mp3
[05:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz
[05:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:08] <Boglizk> Is there a GUI version of nmap available?
[05:08] <jbroome> Boglizk: nmapfe
[05:08] <inglor> how do I play mp3 files in media player?
[05:09] <jrib> !mp3
[05:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:09] <Eruantalo1> !mp3
[05:09] <tomo666> can anyone help me with postFix? ive followed the basic setup and it works, now iam trying to get a basic virtual mail setup working. iv followed the docs from ubuntu wiki and tried many times for many weeks and reinstalled a few times aswell. any help will be greatly appreciated and iam also bit of a unix noob so be patien with me. when i send an email between my virtual domains no mailbox is being created in the mailbox base, can some1 look at m
[05:09] <bonecracker> k, I'll try it
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bonecracker: You didnt run scripts like automatix or easyubuntu did you?
[05:10] <RogerRabb> haha those voodoo's were awesome
[05:10] <jbroome> GyrosGeier: i'll come back in a couple of weeks when you're done and see how it went. :)
[05:10] <bonecracker> I've no automatix or similiar things
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bonecracker: Had to ask..
 how can I view a list of what's being started in ubuntu from boot
[05:11] <zacks> could someone help me out with a installtion?
[05:11] <RogerRabb> what parts zacks?
[05:11] <zacks> when its installing
[05:11] <zacks> it gets to 70%
[05:11] <zacks> then freezes.
[05:11] <zacks> i can move the mouse
[05:11] <zacks> but everything is frozen
[05:11] <zacks> the time etc.
[05:11] <bonecracker> I'm a short time away, reading the whole how-to in help.ubuntu.com, perhaps I find something new
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: a list of everything, ?  No idea...
[05:12] <Will^Draven> I'm currently running gentoo, is there a way i could migrate to ubuntu and maintain my existing /home partition?
[05:12] <surimi> y'a pas de kfontview sous Dapper ? :o
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > zacks
[05:12] <GyrosGeier> Will^Draven, sure, just tell the installer not to format that partition
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[05:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:13] <zacks> any idea on why  it stops at 70%?
[05:13] <atraeyu_> I just mounted my windows NTFS partition using diskmounter.  My /media directory is owned by root, so I can't create a folder there with my regular user account.  I'd like to make a folder /media/storage/ that is accessible to all users for reading and writing ... not quite sure how to do this. :)
[05:13] <SteveFTW> Hey, I'm trying to get RAR on my computer but i need root rights. Im the only user so how do i do it?
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> zacks: Did you have the cd do a self test for errors?
[05:13] <dtygel> hi: anyone can help me trying to resize a fat32 partition without data loss? it's the hda1 partition, and there exist already the hda2, hda3 and swap hda4 partition. Using gParted didn't allow me to resize the partition. Any help?
 no probs I'll keep searching, I found it yesterday but I never bookmarked and I clear my history everyday :( ..... gonna have to start using del.icio.us more often
[05:13] <jrib> !rar > SteveFTW
[05:13] <jrib> !sudo > SteveFTW
[05:13] <adminx> sudo
[05:14] <SteveFTW> sudo?
[05:14] <Boglizk> sudo command
[05:14] <zacks> no but should i do that and if errors come up burn another copy?
[05:14] <Boglizk> or sudo bash to become root
[05:14] <Thug_P> my firefox is showing squares in the text and menu as language how do i reinstall this software?
[05:14] <Thug_P> in ubuntu
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> zacks: Yes, errors on a cd are bad...
[05:14] <Thug_P> 5.04 updated with new things
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> zacks: If you have errors try burning at a slower speed
[05:14] <klm-> My videos are playing in an extremely saturated mode. I've installed all the codecs recommended in Dapper guide. Anyone know why this could be?
 sudo apt-get reinstall firefox
[05:14] <zacks> ok
[05:15] <zacks> yeah i burned it at the max
[05:15] <zacks> ill just burn another copy
[05:15] <zacks> i got alot of cds anyways.
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > zacks
[05:15] <SteveFTW> hey thanks guys
[05:15] <Thug_P> reinstall is invalid opreation
 ahhh. 1 sec
[05:15] <zacks> !enter
[05:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> zacks: Sorry, but put all of that on ONE line please, 953 users need every line
[05:15] <Thug_P> ok
 just use the add/remove at bottom of applications
[05:16] <lupine_85> hi, does anyone know how ubuntu decides which sound card is the default?
[05:16] <sovieticool> hy all
[05:17] <Thug_P> i dont have that
[05:17] <sovieticool> i have a prob
[05:17] <Thug_P> in applications menu
[05:17] <sovieticool> i try to install xserver-xgl
[05:17] <inglor> !xgl
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
 the top panel?
[05:17] <sovieticool> and when i try it say E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xgl_7.0.0-0ubuntu27_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/Xgl', which is also in package xorg-xgl
[05:17] <Thug_P> yeah applications
[05:17] <lupine_85> For some unkown reason, ALSA has started using my other sound card as the default :(
[05:17] <inglor> go to #ubuntu-xgl
[05:17] <Thug_P> but dont forget that i cant use a mouse
 you cant use a mouse?
 alt+f1
[05:18] <SteveFTW> is there a way to just log in as root?
[05:18] <Thug_P> yeah i know alt f1 but its not in the menu
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[05:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:18] <yacek19> hi
[05:18] <magnalAnal> i have a small issue with my drake install.. Sudo wont work.. If i try to access "users and groups" in the administration menu, it just hangs for a bit, then closes. It never prompts me for the root password...!?
[05:18] <jrib> SteveFTW: it's explained on the wiki page ubotu sent you
[05:18] <Thug_P> only run application at the bottom
[05:18] <sovieticool> ...............i have a prob   i try to install xserver-xgl
 what user type are you
[05:18] <sovieticool> and when i try it say E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xgl_7.0.0-0ubuntu27_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/Xgl', which is also in package xorg-xgl
[05:18] <Boglizk> SteveFTW: su or sudo bash
[05:18] <Thug_P> vaqas@c537515f9: /home/vaqas
[05:18] <Thug_P> that?
 try using Synaptic in System > Administration
[05:19] <Thug_P> ok
[05:19] <SteveFTW> i tried sudo bash but i got owned when it said i dont have permission to write to /usr/sbin/    folder
[05:19] <yacek19> I have strange problem with ubuntu. 1 time per 10 times my computer hangs during compiling programs. It freezes and there is a noise from speakers.
[05:19] <sovieticool> Jack_Sparrow, can u help me ?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> magnalAnal: Sounds like you may have been using sudo for gui programs and messed up permissions or set a root password...
[05:19] <anjo> Abrotd: why was "anjo" banned earlier today?
[05:19] <Thug_P> what should i do next when i opend this
[05:19] <sovieticool> !xgl
[05:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:19] <jrib> SteveFTW: you shouldn't use sudo bash, use 'sudo -i' if you need a root prompt
[05:19] <Ash-Fox> yacek19, are you sure your compuer isn't overheating. You also might want to run a test on your RAM.
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: You need to try in xgl room,  you also ran automatix right..?
[05:20] <sovieticool> yes
[05:20] <yacek19> memtest86+ doesn't find any errors
[05:20] <sovieticool> no
[05:20] <sovieticool> automatix is closed now
 yes, i've set the root password...
[05:20] <sgruber> hello
 if a user was to by accident use sudo for gui apps how would these permissions be fixed/reset?
[05:20] <Thug_P> i found something in world wide web
[05:20] <Thug_P> firefox
 : but i had installed the OS in OEM mode, so reinstalling right now... we'll see how it turns out.
[05:20] <Thug_P> and more of firefox
[05:20] <yacek19> my duron's 900 temp. is around 63 degrees C. But it worked also with 69 C
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: Dosent matter if you remove it the damage is done..
[05:21] <sgruber> I'm having problems with the PPC Desktop CD
reinstall them from there
[05:21] <jrib> SteveFTW: rar is available in ubuntu's repositories by the way, so you can use synaptic or add/remove programs to install it
[05:21] <sovieticool> what to do ?
[05:21] <Jaak_> is there an addon for rhyhmbox that shows album art?
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sovieticool: Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling
[05:22] <sovieticool> so can't install xserver-xgl
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun, but time for me to go have breakfast.  Play nice....
[05:22] <Thug_P> ok i do my best
[05:22] <Paddy_EIRE> bye jack
[05:22] <sgruber> I burned the CD on my friends PC
[05:22] <sgruber> and it won't boot
[05:23] <sgruber> can somebody help me?
[05:23] <inglor> go to your BIOS
[05:23] <sorush20> when will mozilla thunderbird be upgraded/
[05:23] <inglor> do you know how to do that?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> sgruber: reburn it and burn it as a cd image
[05:23] <jrib> !schedule > sorush20
[05:23] <gnomefreak> sorush20: for what version?
[05:23] <inglor> sgruber, did you make sure your BIOS is set to boot from the CD first?
why use thunderbird when u can use Evolution
[05:24] <inglor> all the extensions on thunderbird make it better :)
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[05:24] <sorush20> Paddy_EIRE: can I view my yahoo and hotmail and etc accuonts in evolution?
[05:24] <Fraj> hi iv downloaded some icon themes
[05:24] <Fraj> but i dont know where to put them :S
[05:24] <inglor> yes, you can
[05:24] <inglor> sorush20, you can view anything you can in thunderbird
 not hotmail as they now ask for money to use pop access
[05:24] <gnomefreak> !iso
[05:24] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:24] <jrib> Fraj: you can just drag the file into the dialog for system > preferences > themes
[05:25] <gnomefreak> sgruber: please read that
[05:25] <klm-> My videos play very saturated, in two colors. I've installed all the codecs recommended in Dapper guide. Anyone know how this could be fixed?
 although there are ways around that :)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> grrrrr
[05:25] <gnomefreak> sorush20: you need a seprate email client for yahoo
[05:25] <hetauma> hi
[05:26] <hetauma> any1 got any idea if the kernel of knot3 is 2.6.17 and if yes is it patched for the Jmicron bug ?
 is it possible to have a transparent terminal without using xgl?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: not trully transparent iirc
 I dont mind that
[05:26] <sorush20> Paddy_EIRE: see so that is the reason I use firefox..
[05:27] <sorush20> Paddy_EIRE: thunderbird
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: in the terminal profile you can find how to make it
 nice one
[05:27] <jamz> aboo
[05:27] <sorush20> Paddy_EIRE: what server name do I use for yahoo.co.uk? in evolution?
[05:29] <atraeyu_> If I have a folder /media/storage/ - how can I make this writable by all users?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> sgruber: please ask for help in the channel i am working on something right now
[05:30] <sgruber> can somebody help me boot the PPC Desktop CD Image
[05:30] <ikonia> I've just had a ubuntu 6 install do the auto-update and the update sucseeded but threw up LOADS of errors about python scripts not running. Not synaptics, and other admin tools won't run, bug-buddy exists etc etc. Is there any way I can do an apt-get upgrade --force, to force the upgrade to run again
[05:30] <sgruber> I am running Mac OS 10.1 right now
[05:30] <inglor> hey, I really have to get the font Arial for my computer, is that possible?
[05:30] <Thug_P> yeah worked firefox is working normal now
[05:30] <inglor> !fonts
[05:30] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[05:30] <sgruber> trying to boot into Ubuntu 6.06.1 Desktop CD
[05:30] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
nice one, i like it
[05:31] <Jaak__> sorry to ask again but i got disconected, is there an addon for rythmbox so i can see album art?
[05:31] <Ackeubu_> jmz du dar
[05:31] <jmz> !nvidia
[05:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:31] <Ackeubu_> sweet
[05:31] <Ackeubu_> you got it
[05:31] <Ackeubu_> go to the page
[05:32] <SteveFTW> ok, Im trying to get RAR installed and it says i need to put the files in my \usr\sbin\ directory but i dont have write rights..... how do give myself these rights?
[05:32] <archangelpetro> how do i kill a defunt process??? 'kill -9 PID' doesnt seem to work
[05:32] <Ackeubu_> jmz: you know wine.. the windows emulator.. (i think) you can ask the bot about all kinds of things and it will have nice references for you
[05:32] <ikonia> there must be a way to do an apt-get upgrade --force
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Is there anyway that i can view more info on apps that are listed in "apt-cache search" in the terminal
[05:33] <inglor> I have to get Arial but it's not included at any package
[05:33] <ladydoor> SteveFTW: you need to use sudo. also, you might consider, if you're installing manually, instead putting them in /usr/local/sbin so they don't get confused with apt-installed packages. also, this is linux--our slashes go forward
[05:33] <Ackeubu_> ! tell jmz smb
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell jmz smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <inglor> can someone running windows and/or has the font email me the font arial to inglor@gmail.com
[05:33] <jmz> !smp
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Ackeubu_> smb
[05:33] <Ackeubu_> ^^
[05:33] <jmz> !smb
[05:33] <SteveFTW> lol sorry ladydoor :D
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <jmz> super mario bros!
[05:33] <SatanGolga> i run vmware: how do i add the guest mode in 'display' in xorg.conf so u can run fullscreen with higher resolution?
[05:33] <ladydoor> inglor: try msttcorefotnts, like ubotu said
[05:33] <SteveFTW> and thanks
[05:34] <sgruber> I need help mounting the ppc desktop cd
[05:34] <inglor> ubotu is wront
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is wront - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <sgruber> !mount
[05:34] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:34] <inglor> it includes every microsoft font exapt arial
[05:34] <ladydoor> SteveFTW: np! i hope it helps
[05:34] <inglor> *exept
[05:34] <sgruber> !iso
[05:34] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:34] <archangelpetro> does anyone know how to kill a crashed process?
[05:34] <Ackeubu_> !ntfs
[05:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:35] <wwallace> where do i download ubuntu with kde?
[05:35] <SteveFTW> doh, it says i dont have write rights to /usr/local/sbin/ either
[05:35] <FirstStrike> !kubuntu
[05:35] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[05:35] <rkd> wwallace: kubuntu
[05:35] <inglor> wwallace, you download kubuntu instead
[05:35] <wwallace> where?
 sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <inglor> kubuntu.org
[05:35] <RvGaTe> Hello, i have a problem regarding my nvidia twinview setup... for some reason my left screen doesn't allign correctly when using rgb, my right screen seems to allign correctly using dvi. here's a video on what my problem is... http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.avi  the 2 screens are identical and work perfectly in windows, so it does support the resolution... i cant seem to find any reason why it doesn't in ubuntu...
[05:35] <cherubiel> archangelpetro: kill the parent
[05:35] <wwallace> ok im moving from kanotix
[05:35] <wwallace> whats the iso i need
[05:35] <FirstStrike> wwallace: try reading that big paragraph -all- about kubuntu
[05:35] <wwallace> im use to kde
[05:36] <archangelpetro> cherubiel: what do you think the parent of totem will be? (how do i find out?)
[05:36] <ladydoor> SteveFTW: yeah...you need to use sudo mv/cp instead of mv/cp.
 kubuntu] 
[05:36] <cherubiel> archangelpetro: use pstree <pid> to find parent
[05:36] <wwallace> ok ill download kubuntu
[05:36] <wwallace> lets c
[05:36] <archangelpetro> kk
[05:36] <ikonia> the wiki says that apt-get -f upgrade should work, but it still things I've got everything I need. Is there an apt-get argument that "forces download/refresh" of your whole system
[05:36] <RvGaTe> ffs, the converter screwed up the video
[05:37] <SteveFTW> huh? im just trying to copy and paste it into there. I'm into that new fangled graphics stuff
[05:37] <fishy> Resizing a partiton reformats it right? I can't resize something and keep all the data, correct?
[05:37] <eugman> How do I configure pan so I can use usenet?
[05:37] <eugman> fishy, that sounds incorrect to me.
[05:38] <SatanGolga> i run vmware: how do i add the guest mode in 'display' in xorg.conf so u can run fullscreen with higher resolution?
[05:38] <archangelpetro> cherubiel: that process has gone defunct now too :/
[05:38] <fishy> eugman: So I can resize my Ubuntu partition and nothing will be harmed?
[05:38] <RogerRabb> resizing won't reformat it.. it does magic which changes the allocated size of the partition on the hdd.. Obviously if you tried to make a partition smaller - so small that it was less than the data on that partition, you would screw it up badly
[05:39] <RogerRabb> There's always a risk of losing data in resizing - at least that's what I've always read/been told
[05:39] <eugman> What Roger said. Make sure you use a livecd to resize it.
[05:39] <SteveFTW> how do i move stuff in the konsole?
[05:39] <eugman> Yes, ALWAYS  make backups.
[05:39] <archangelpetro> cherubiel: and the crashed window is still open
[05:39] <eugman> Murphy's law is in effect when talking about partitions.
[05:39] <chinoke> hello all
[05:39] <archangelpetro> cherubiel: it was reading off a network mounted share.. but i tried to forcibly umount that.. to no avail
[05:39] <commonlyUNIQU3> hello
[05:39] <chinoke> quit
[05:39] <acersales> hi is there any tool to run iso files in ubuntu such as daemon tool or magiciso ?
[05:40] <RogerRabb> acersales it's built into the os with linux
[05:40] <commonlyUNIQU3> anybody know how to get the "Number Pad" keys on a keyboard to work under ubuntu?
[05:40] <SteveFTW> hit the numlock button?
[05:40] <acersales> RogerRabb, how to run that then ?
[05:40] <RogerRabb> acersales sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint
[05:40] <eugman> Can anyone help me configure a newsreader?
[05:41] <admin_> will i be able to run xubuntu smoothly on a laptop with a PII 300mhzm, and 256ram, and 10GB hdd?
[05:41] <SteveFTW> ew
[05:41] <acersales> RogerRabb, you mean mount is the name of the tool ?
[05:41] <commonlyUNIQU3> nope - I think I need to tell ubuntu that those buttons exist first
[05:41] <acersales> RogerRabb, anything graphical ?
[05:41] <SteveFTW> dang... mine worked as soon as i installed ubuntu :(
[05:42] <ladydoor> eugman: Murphy's Law, correllary 7201:  Murphy's Law of Murphy's Law Efficacy:  Murphy's Law will be in effect whenever it is least convenient for it to be in effect
[05:42] <admin_> will i be able to run ubuntu or xubuntu smoothly on a laptop with a PII 300mhzm, and 256ram, and 10GB hdd?
[05:42] <RogerRabb> acersales you'll want to create the mount point (folder) first.. mkdir folder.. if it's a in a dir without permissions for you to create folders then sudo mkdir folder
[05:42] <racefire> I don't see why not, if it's xubuntu
[05:42] <SteveFTW> why would you want to?
[05:42] <racefire> But I'm not sure
[05:42] <brian98> admin: try it and see
[05:42] <eugman> ladydoor, is there a time when one would want it to be in effect?
[05:43] <ladydoor> eugman: perhaps when someone you dislike is doing something?
[05:43] <admin_> brian98: well, i'm gonna get a old thinkpad on ebay, so i dunno if it'll be ok with ubuntu or xubuntu
[05:43] <RogerRabb> acersales umm.. I'm sure there are graphical interfaces for mount (which happens to be on every linux distro known to man.. It's not just used for iso, it's used for mounting all drives)
[05:43] <SteveFTW> hey how do i play wmv's and avi's?
[05:43] <acersales> thanks RogerRabb ;) i will check it out it is what i was expecting
[05:44] <jamz> !nvidia
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <ladydoor> RogerRabb: it's a lot quicker to just use the commandline instead of searching through menus and such. also, it's tedious trying to give directions for using graphikal applications
[05:45] <Ackeubu_> jamz: hows it goin?
[05:45] <RogerRabb> ladydoor don't need to tell me, it was acersales asking the question :)
[05:45] <racefire> SteveFTW: I would get the codecs from easyubuntu
[05:45] <rixxon> can you switch from ubuntu to kubuntu by apt-getting something?
[05:45] <SteveFTW> how do i move a file from my desktop to my /usr/local/sbin/ folder?
[05:45] <ladydoor> RogerRabb: oh! lol. sorry. i got a little mixed up
[05:45] <racefire> it's an install script
[05:45] <ikonia> there must be a way to force a refresh/reinstall of the current packages using apt
[05:45] <npodges> maxres, i reinstalled the driver with envy, but same result
[05:45] <ladydoor> SteveFTW: sudo mv ~/filename /usr/local/sbin :-)
[05:46] <SteveFTW> racefire: i downloaded that but it doesnt do anything? it just flashes a yellow box across the screen
[05:46] <SteveFTW> thanks ladydoor
[05:46] <eugman> ladydoor, slight error in your answer
[05:46] <SteveFTW> dasudh
[05:46] <ladydoor> eugman: being?
[05:46] <eugman> he said desktop
[05:46] <icet> hello again, I get an error 17 while loading grub. Through livecd, I cannot mount my partition (some reiserfs problem with badblock). Need some help!
[05:46] <ladydoor> eugman: oh! you're right. i keep forgetting that exists. thanks
[05:46] <ladydoor> SteveFTW: actually, it's sudo mv ~/Desktop/filename /usr/local/sbin
[05:46] <ladydoor> SteveFTW: i'm sorry
[05:46] <racefire> When I launch gaim (i'm using it now) I don't get anything in the panel. Why?
[05:47] <racefire> Upper panel, I mean
[05:47] <eyequeue> isn't "desktop" a non-laptop?
[05:47] <tomo666> can anyone help me with postFix? ive followed the basic setup and it works, now iam trying to get a basic virtual mail setup working. iv followed the docs from ubuntu wiki and tried many times for many weeks and reinstalled a few times aswell. any help will be greatly appreciated and iam also bit of a unix noob so be patien with me. when i send an email between my virtual domains no mailbox is being created in the mailbox base, can some1 look at m
[05:47] <SteveFTW> lol no worries, thanks :D
[05:47] <ladydoor> eyequeue: it's also a folder, unless you get rid of it
[05:47] <ladydoor> eyequeue: *dir
[05:47] <racefire> lol, just solved
[05:47] <racefire> sorry about that
[05:47] <eyequeue> hmm
[05:47] <ladydoor> eyequeue: yeah, i never used it either.
[05:47] <eyequeue> confusing terms, sigh
[05:48] <eugman> eyequeue, I'm sure you could get people to start a wiki article that covers all the counter-inttuative terms.
[05:48] <sovieticool> !xgl
[05:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:48] <racefire> So steve, how big is the yellow box?
[05:49] <eyequeue> eugman, is their server large enough? ;-)
[05:49] <racefire> and what easyubuntu distro is it?
[05:49] <icet> could someone tell me how to fix this?
[05:49] <racefire> I mean ubuntu distro, k, x, normal, etc.
[05:49] <racefire> And where did you get easyubuntu?
[05:49] <ladydoor> !easyubuntu
[05:49] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:49] <TEN> On Xubuntu LTS 6.06.1, even though the smbspool is working, CUPS prints only its own test page, or lp somepostscriptfile.ps, but neither text nor bitmaps. What's wrong with CUPS and/or foomatic-rip ? http://phpfi.com/153896
[05:49] <eyequeue> racefire, it is deprecated
[05:49] <TEN> There are plenty of posts blaming *similar* problems on smbspool, but this rather seems to be related to conversion into PS.
[05:50] <eugman> Anyone know how to configure a newsreader client?
[05:50] <eyequeue> eugman, slrn seems rather intuitive to me
[05:50] <eugman> I'll take a look at it.
[05:50] <eyequeue> eugman, it's also cli
[05:51] <khaotikuz> hi, is anyone from brasil there?
[05:51] <TEN> BTW which is the preferred source for pine on Ubuntu? Only directly from the University of Washington?
[05:52] <lostinc> Hi I would like to migrate my parents home computer over to ubuntu. I have tested the Live CD and it works great. The only thing is will I be able to get Java working correctly in the Firefox browser so that they can play their games on Pogo.com? Anyone have any exp with this?
[05:52] <krazykit> is there an apple file protocol client for linux?
[05:52] <eugman> We usually have specific channel;s for each language. The language in brasil is portugese correct?
[05:53] <ladydoor> eugman: yup
[05:53] <eugman> any chance you know the two leter symbol for portugese?
[05:53] <eugman> !pt
[05:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:53] <krazykit> !br
[05:53] <inglor> hey, I want to open a file browser with sudo
[05:53] <eugman> what luck
[05:53] <inglor> how would I do that>
[05:53] <inglor> *?
[05:53] <skoger> install jre for linux iis thath all
[05:53] <harisund> I have had Ubuntu for quite a while now ! Anybody know how I can find out when I installed Ubuntu last? (I mean, how long has the operating system been around)
[05:53] <eugman> inglor, gksudo nautilus
[05:53] <krazykit> inglor: gksudo nautilus
[05:54] <inglor> thanks
[05:54] <archangelpetro> cherubiel: lol.. i removed the parent process which was xfce4-menu ...  and it doesnt load up automatically now
[05:54] <skoger> losting: install jre for linux is that  all
[05:55] <inglor> !fonts
[05:55] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[05:55] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[05:55] <kapputu> Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right forum to ask this question. I'm looking for a way to connect to using VPN to my work computer. Is there an open-source VPN client available that will connect to a cisco vpn concentrator?
[05:55] <JosefK> kapputu: yes, you can install the 'vpnc' package (sudo aptitude install vpnc)
[05:56] <JosefK> kapputu: that's for Cisco VPN 3000 (iirc), I used it fairly well, but it does tend to drop connections
[05:56] <SteveFTW> i downloaded easyubuntu from the easyubuntu website but i still cant play wmv files
[05:56] <JosefK> kapputu: Cisco do release an official Linux client - it may be worth speaking to your IT department to see if they can get it
[05:56] <harisund> Any idea when the new FVWM-Crystal will be in the repos? Perhaps for edgy? I hope there's a Crystalbuntu or something :)
[05:57] <JosefK> kapputu: although the official cisco client requires a kernel module, which is a bit of hassle as iirc they don't provide source
[05:57] <jadacyrus> I'm getting Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1). Please append a correct "root=" boot option. But in my grub menu.lst file I do have root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash... and I know for a fact the device is /dev/hda1
[05:57] <SteveFTW> yarr matey? i downloaded easyubuntu from the easyubuntu website but i still cant play wmv files
[05:57] <TEN> JosefK And like the original one from Cisco, it doesn't connect to much else - Cisco seems to have its own flavor of IPSec
[05:57] <JosefK> TEN: indeed
[05:57] <krazykit> SteveFTW: but did you run it?
[05:58] <SteveFTW> yea... a hollow yellow box spreads from the easyubuntu logo, hits the edge of the screen and disappears
[05:58] <tbcheese> Hi there. i recently installed ubuntu 6.06 and i couldn't get anything connected to the internet. i could ping and traceroute fine but nothing else works. Then I found out that I had to disable IPv6 to get firefox up. But other applications still cant connect. Not even apt-get
[05:58] <tbcheese> i'm very new to linux by the way
[05:58] <TEN> Does anyone know whether there is a client that works well with "regular" IPSec hosts (preferably free and cross-platform) ?
[05:58] <krazykit> well, having never used easyubuntu... i just used seveas' repo for w32codecs, SteveFTW
[05:59] <SteveFTW> ok cool, ill try that
[05:59] <racefire> try what?
[05:59] <Silencer> is there gnome 2.10 for ubuntu 6.06 lts ?
[05:59] <JosefK> TEN: openvpn, secvpn and grml-vpn are all in Dapper
[05:59] <racefire> how do I access svn?
[05:59] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know why i dont get any sound in rosegarden or ardourt
[05:59] <Paddy_EIRE> *ardour
[06:00] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: are those qt apps?  if so, make sure they're using alsa or esd as their sound output, rather than aRts
[06:00] <JosefK> TEN: openvpn looks like the safest bet
[06:00] <Magus_X_Away> [tbcheese] : sorry, i cant help, im new too
[06:00] <jadacyrus> I'm getting Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1). Please append a correct "root=" boot option. But in my grub menu.lst file I do have root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash... and I know for a fact the device is /dev/hda1
[06:00] <tbcheese> ok no problems :D just thought i might try my luck here
[06:01] <RobNyc|Ubuntu> pass this around free ipod for real no cc needed.. go down after ur signed up http://www.ipodfree4me.com/?r=119
[06:01] <Magus_X_Away> [tbcheese] : stay, ask you question again soon, maybe someone new knwo
[06:01] <Magus_X_Away> *know
[06:01] <sgruber> is there a way to get an ubuntu install without running off a cd?
k, gonna look for that ....which is better alsa or esd
[06:01] <TEN> JosefK However "OpenVPN is not compatible with IPSec, IKE, PPTP, or L2TP" http://openvpn.net/
[06:02] <tbcheese> okies Magus_X_Away
[06:02] <Magus_X_Away> [sgruber] : you mean install it without the cd?
[06:02] <JosefK> TEN: funny, the package description's misleading then
[06:02] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: dunno.  i personally don't like sound daemons, so i tend to use alsa.  either would be fine.
[06:02] <unlucky1> is there a way to remove the mounted media icons on the desktop?
[06:02] <TEN> JosefK So is SecVPN's, that's an ssh-over-PPP tunnel
[06:03] <TEN> (or was that vice versa)
[06:03] <JosefK> ugly :/ doesn't seem like there's much support other than that
[06:04] <ladydoor> !install > sgruber
[06:06] <TEN> JosefK But grml-vpn seems to depend on http://ipsec-tools.sourceforge.net/ which could be what I've been looking for... Thanx!
[06:06] <unlucky1> is there a way to remove the mounted media icons on the desktop?
[06:07] <ladydoor> !repeat
[06:07] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:07] <Kraig> hi, i'm wondering what package provides alsaconf, i tried apt-file search alsaconf, but it returns nothing, in packages.ubuntu.com i found it should be in alsa-utils, still, i installed alsa-utils and i don't have alsaconf, any ideas?
[06:07] <mrbrd1> unresolved dependencies when upgrading from dapper to edgy using aptitude: http://paste.uni.cc/10149 please help
[06:08] <ladydoor> unlucky1: i *think* that in gconfeditor you can turn off desktop icons, but i'm not sure as i don't use gnome. gconfeditor is probably the best place to look
[06:08] <ladydoor> mrbrd1: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:08] <mrbrd1> ok thx
[06:08] <ladydoor> mrbrd1: good luck
[06:08] <mrbrd1> thanks
[06:08] <unlucky1> ladydoor thanks
[06:08] <ladydoor> unlucky1: i hope it helps
[06:09] <jrib> unlucky1: ladydoor is right: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible I think in gconf-editor
[06:09] <unlucky1> thanks
[06:09] <Neo8750> anyone know a good program todownload movies off of youtube etc so they are playable by mplayer and the like
[06:09] <ladydoor> jrib: sweeeet! it is so rare for me to be right about DE stuff
[06:09] <siriusnova> hey
[06:10] <siriusnova> i figured out why the ati radeon x.org driver crashes my laptop
[06:10] <THX-1138>   ladydoor - can you use gconf-editorto change the destop icon size from 32x32 to 48x48?
[06:10] <siriusnova> its because i have to have "DynamicCLocks" "true" in the x.org conf file
[06:10] <siriusnova> maybe the ati radeon is overheating without it?
[06:10] <jrib> Neo8750: http://keepvid.com/ ?
[06:10] <ladydoor> THX-1138: as i said, i don't use gnome, so i don't *really* know
[06:11] <jrib> Neo8750: mplayer /can/ play flv video but I don't if that is enabled by default in ubuntu's packages or not
[06:11] <mahmeh> i have a dumb question, that i cant find an answer to :(  i was running dapper and i had dvb-t support out of the box (nova-t) , but I just installed edgy and it doesnt detect my card.  has anyone got any experience with this ?
[06:11] <unlucky1> ladydoor, jrib thanks that worked
[06:11] <ladydoor> unlucky1: sweet!
[06:11] <ataq> aq\
[06:11] <THX-1138> ladydoor - Can grep be used on the file? that gconf-editor?
[06:11] <THX-1138> uses??
[06:11] <ladydoor> mahmeh: ask in #ubuntu+1  for edgy support
[06:11] <mahmeh> thanks ladydoor
[06:11] <Neo8750> jrib: well mplayer tells me the formats not support so guess not by defualt =)
[06:12] <jrib> Neo8750: maybe vlc?
[06:12] <ladydoor> THX-1138: err, i suppose in theory you could, but it would be a bad idea as it's a binary file
[06:12] <ladydoor> THX-1138: you should probably just run it instead
[06:12] <THX-1138> ladydoor - Okay, I didn't know that. - Thank You.
[06:12] <ladydoor> THX-1138: np. good luck!
[06:13] <sovieticool> !xgl
[06:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:13] <siriusnova> I <3 Ubuntu
[06:14] <jrib> Neo8750: yeah I have packaged vlc here on edgy and it plays so that's worth a try
[06:14] <sovieticool> !xgl
[06:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:14] <acke__> Heep
[06:15] <Rugmonster> Howdy all
[06:15] <acke__> im in irc in the terminal. No gui frontend. how do i scroll up?? i tried alt+pgup
[06:15] <acke__> ooh only pgup
[06:16] <Neo8750> jrib: i got it to but it still won't play
[06:16] <TEN> Hints on printing errors that occur for anything but PostScript? (http://phpfi.com/153896 shows a plain-text example)
[06:16] <eyequeue> acke__, you may also enjoy runnIng your irc client under screen(1) :)
[06:16] <jrib> Neo8750: hmm what video?
[06:16] <Kraig> !alsaconf
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsaconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <Neo8750> [flv @ 0xb2d81c30] Could not find codec parameters (Video: 0x0004)
[06:17] <jrib> Neo8750: hmm xine is working too... does that fail for you as well?
[06:17] <Neo8750> firefox won't play it with video so i figured i rip it off site and try it
[06:17] <Neo8750> i don't got xine
[06:18] <Neo8750> usally mplayer covers it all
[06:18] <lynn> Hi all!
[06:18] <Rugmonster> I changed my root partition since install. When a new kernel package gets installed, my grub config gets changed to point to the old partition. Where is the setting that dpkg looks at so I don't have to change the config after each kernel install?
[06:18] <eyequeue> s/got/have/
[06:18] <Mille> lo
[06:18] <Neo8750> unless the video just didn't rip right
[06:18] <Mille> isn't it possible to mount the root and swap on the same partition upon installation?
[06:18] <eyequeue> Rugmonster, looked at "groot" in /boot/grub/menu.lst yet?
[06:19] <kapputu> Is there a way to set an application as the default app for a particular file type in xfce4?
[06:19] <eyequeue> Mille, no
[06:19] <eyequeue> Mille, a linux swap partition is formatted differently than any linux data partition
[06:19] <Mille> oh i see
[06:19] <Mille> I was just about to ask why
[06:19] <Mille> :-)
[06:20] <Rugmonster> eyequeue: is that what dpkg looks at?
[06:20] <eyequeue> Rugmonster, it's worth investigating, i don't know the internals, but it appears to be
[06:20] <Rugmonster> eyequeue: okay. I missed that one since it was commented out
[06:20] <lupine_85> apparently, linux does swap files as well (disregarding the fact that everything in linux is a file anyway ;) )
[06:21] <eyequeue> Rugmonster, it is NOT commented out btw, that # is part of the line syntax in the file (read the ## comments above it)
[06:21] <Mille> how big should I make a partition for the swap?
[06:21] <eyequeue> Mille, classic wisdom said "twice your physical ram"
[06:21] <SatanGolga> lupine_85: where exactly should i put "vmware" in xorg.conf?
[06:21] <Mille> twice the amount of ram? got 512 ram so 1 gb?
[06:21] <Mille> heh, ok
[06:22] <kasspy> hi everyone
[06:22] <eyequeue> Mille, ubutu says "a minimum of 256mb" i believe
[06:22] <eyequeue> Mille, if you have the drive space, a gig would be good, i'd say
[06:22] <lupine_85> SatanGolga: in the "Device" section, I'd imagine
[06:22] <lupine_85> man xorg.conf will tell you more
[06:23] <SatanGolga> instead of vesa?
[06:23] <Rugmonster> eyequeue: I stand corrected. had I read the stupid file, I would have seen exactly what I needed to know. Sorry.
[06:23] <Neo8750> i think i know why
[06:23] <Neo8750> i bet its because its flash 9
[06:23] <eyequeue> Rugmonster, np, i just didn[t want you removing the # :)
[06:23] <zenwifi> I am looking forward to flash 9 for linux
[06:23] <Mille> yeah, that's no problem. made 5 gb for the entier linux, so i just did split that up
[06:24] <jrib> zenwifi: why?
[06:24] <Rugmonster> I just didn't realize that you set it up there. I should have read the file. I typically ignore that stuff. Thanks for pointing it out
[06:24] <eyequeue> Neo8750, flash is evil, sure, but not involved in swap files, heh
[06:24] <Neo8750> eh?
[06:24] <zenwifi> jrib, so that more internet content will be available to users of GNU/Linux operating systems
[06:24] <dennisharrison_A> anyone have a lnk to a tut on correctly packaging .deb's or the like for multiple versions of (?)ubuntu?
[06:25] <dennisharrison_A> I made a few packages of "hard" to install programs I use from other distro's for ubuntu
[06:25] <jirihavelka> Hi, in which configuration file i can specify which display manager i want to run ?????
[06:25] <eyequeue> dennisharrison_A, the "maint-quide" package in debian used to
[06:25] <dennisharrison_A> used too? ;p
[06:25] <eyequeue> dennisharrison_A, s/q/g/
[06:25] <Kraig> i don't have alsaconf, so i EVEN tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-utils && sudo apt-get install alsa-utils -y and i still don't have the file, any ideas?
[06:26] <eyequeue> dennisharrison_A, i don't know, i'm not on a debian box atm
[06:26] <dennisharrison_A> I hear ya
[06:26] <dennisharrison_A> I used to use debian
[06:26] <dennisharrison_A> and now im back on ubuntu as my desktop os
[06:26] <lynn> can help me with this please - I've tried resizing (can't get a higher resolution than 800x600) - I'm running amarok with dapper and when I try changing the default settings the window is so large that all I can do is close yet the changes aren't being saved.......is there a hotkey?
[06:26] <eyequeue> dennisharrison_A, ii  maint-guide    1.2.6          Debian New Maintainers' Guide
[06:26] <dennisharrison_A> rgr, thanks
[06:26] <eyequeue> dennisharrison_A, i guess it's in ubuntu as well, heh
[06:27] <eyequeue> !info maint-guide
[06:27] <ubotu> maint-guide: Debian New Maintainers' Guide. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6 (dapper), package size 343 kB, installed size 520 kB
[06:27] <Kraig> Ctrl + Shit + + or - ?
[06:27] <dennisharrison_A> awesome eyequeue
[06:27] <dennisharrison_A> thanks, saves me from googlling for a little bit ;p
[06:27] <eyequeue> dennisharrison_A, i even installed it, but forgot, lol
[06:27] <Rug> Howdy all
[06:27] <dennisharrison_A> getting now
[06:27] <jirihavelka> Plz help in which configuration file i can specify which display manager i want to run ?????
[06:28] <dennisharrison_A> so, I guess ill find a way to get these working right for most people
[06:28] <eyequeue> dennisharrison_A, it will point you to the definitive docs as well, man dpkg-buildpackage, the hardcore stuff too
[06:28] <Neo8750> jirihavelka: at the graphical login goto the optipon sessions
[06:28] <dennisharrison_A> compwiz xgl for nvidia and ati and gimp 2.3.11
[06:28] <jirihavelka> Neo8750: i want configuration file
[06:28] <cherubiel> jirihavelka: /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[06:28] <SatanGolga> uhm, how do u restard X without rebooting?
[06:28] <fitus> hello everyone I am new to ubuntu OS
[06:29] <eyequeue> jirihavelka, example, gdm:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:29] <Rug> hiya fitus
[06:29] <cherubiel> SatanGolga: do a ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:29] <jirihavelka> cherubiel: Thanks, i want that
[06:29] <dennisharrison_A> hehe 520K
[06:29] <fitus> hi
[06:29] <Kraig> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[06:29] <dennisharrison_A> ok, going diving into the docs ;p
[06:29] <dennisharrison_A> see you later, thanks again eyequeue
[06:29] <Ash-Fox> !wifi
[06:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:29] <eyequeue> np
[06:31] <troy_s> If someone has Ubuntu previously installed on an IDE drive, how do they reinstall it to a newer SATA drive AND boot the box with the IDE drive in it?
[06:32] <racefire> !topic
[06:32] <eyequeue> sata isn't ide?
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <racefire> !svn
[06:32] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[06:32] <eyequeue> racefire, you may mean /topic
[06:32] <sovieticool> how i put to channel at start up ?
[06:32] <eyequeue> sovieticool, pardon?
[06:33] <sovieticool> how i put to channel at start up to x-chat ..to auto join :D
[06:33] <eyequeue> sovieticool, auto /join can be configured in the ^S server dialog
[06:33] <eyequeue> sovieticool, edit the network you want
[06:33] <chaos_> eye, can auto /connect?
[06:33] <mrbrd1> hm i tried doing that, with synaptics
[06:34] <eyequeue> chaos_, yes, same place :)
[06:34] <mrbrd1> did you use mark all upgrades?
[06:34] <sovieticool> yes let lee i want to put #ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl ?
[06:34] <chaos_> what program are you talking about eye?
[06:34] <eyequeue> sovieticool, comma-delimited :)
[06:35] <eyequeue> chaos_, he asked about xchat
[06:35] <chaos_> I'm using xchat. I cant find the auto-connect
[06:35] <Kraig> apt-file is not working for me, no matter what package i try i just get no answer
[06:35] <eyequeue> chaos_, first, ^s for your server list
[06:35] <jrib> Kraig: did you run   sudo apt-file update  ?
[06:35] <kissi> hi all
[06:35] <eyequeue> chaos_, fthen choose this server network, then "edit"
[06:36] <chaos_> AHA
[06:36] <chaos_> you are brilliant
[06:36] <eyequeue> chaos_, hehe
[06:36] <lynn>  If someone could help me please! - I have tried resizing - running amarok on dapper and can't save setting because the of the screen size ......is there a way?
[06:36] <sovieticool> eyequeue, how comma ...?
[06:36] <eyequeue> chaos_, you can also auto /join there too
[06:36] <chaos_> ya, set that up already
[06:36] <jrib> Kraig: well don't worry I asked that same question here when I first use apt-file :)
[06:37] <eyequeue> sovieticool, "#ubuntu,#ubuntu-xgl" minus the "
[06:37] <manmadha> Is there any keyboard shortcut to lock the screen????
[06:37] <sovieticool> ok
[06:37] <lukky>  Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[06:37] <sovieticool> thank's
[06:37] <jrib> manmadha: you can set one in system > preferences . keyboard shortcuts
[06:37] <lukky> what does that mean?
[06:37] <Kraig> good thingie the update for apt-* jrib :)
[06:37] <Stinovlas> hi
[06:37] <manmadha> jrib, ok 1m
[06:37] <fulld> what package do I need to install glib-sharp-2.0?
[06:38] <chaos_> default lock is ctrl + alt + L
[06:38] <cherubiel> lukky: apt-get install libgtk+-2.0-dev
[06:38] <afflux> nabend...
[06:39] <Stinovlas> leave
[06:39] <lukky> cherubiel: couldn't find the package
[06:39] <ceari> anyone with a geforce 7600 Go card? I ran into some problems getting the 3d acceleration running
[06:39] <chaos_> I have a 7800 GT
[06:39] <jrib> lukky: it's just libgtk2.0-dev
[06:40] <Kraig> ok, i hae a script that refers to alsaconf, everybody says it's supposed to come un alsa-utils, but, now that apt-file works *grins*, i do an apt-file show alsa-utils | grep conf and the only thing like that is asoundconf, should ln -s asoundconf to alsaconf ? or i'm still peeing off the toilet?
[06:40] <Kraig> s/hae/have
[06:40] <jrib> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[06:40] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2168 kB, installed size 8012 kB
[06:41] <eyequeue> vim-runtime: /usr/share/vim/vim64/syntax/alsaconf.vim
[06:41] <eyequeue> weird
[06:41] <chaos_> gone
[06:41] <Kraig> yes, everywhere i read about it it's mentioned in alsa-utils
[06:41] <Luke> I'm trying to run a dedicated UT'99 server but whenever I try to run the server binary it gives this error: "    ucc-bin server CTF-Face?game=Botpack.CTFGame?mutator=BotPack.NoRedeemer ini=ut.ini log=ut.log -nohomedir &
[06:41] <eyequeue> Kraig, may i ask about this 'SCRIPT'?
[06:41] <eyequeue> Kraig, is it for dapper?
[06:42] <zaggynl> Hi, is it possible to use the amarok hotkeys in gnome?
[06:42] <Kraig> eyequeue: for a sound card, 5.1 sound, came with the PC and i wanna try all speakers work
[06:42] <eyequeue> Kraig, i think the problem is you are attempting to use a non-dapper script
[06:42] <SatanGolga> well, it didnt work
[06:43] <Adam_G> zomg it's the end of the world. (details to follow)
[06:43] <Luke> I'm trying to run a dedicated UT'99 server but whenever I try to run the server binary it gives this error: "cannot execute binary file". Does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:43] <Kraig> i doubt it's even for breezy
[06:43] <eyequeue> Luke, what does file(1) say about it?
[06:43] <Kraig> it's just a #!/bin/bash script
[06:43] <manmadha> thank u
[06:43] <Luke> eyequeue: whats file(1)?
[06:43] <Kraig> for make && make install and just that
[06:43] <eyequeue> Kraig, i don't recommend blind running of such things, heh
[06:44] <Adam_G> I installed the FVWM window manager on a whim, which wasn't fun, so I selected "quit fvwm" from the menu. At that point, my computer died. Not just X- control-alt-backspace/F1/F2 etc didn't work at all
[06:44] <eyequeue> Kraig, and definitely not any make install
[06:44] <Adam_G> absolutely no response from my computer, so I cut the power off (it's a laptop, BTW)
[06:44] <eyequeue> file (1)             - determine file type
[06:44] <eyequeue> file (1posix)        - determine file type
[06:44] <Kraig> eyequeue: so what method should i follow to make my 5 speakers working?
[06:44] <Luke> eyequeue: oh you mean the file bin
[06:45] <eyequeue> Luke, yes, the (1) convention is to specify which man section it is in
[06:45] <Adam_G> when I restart, it gets to the "checking filesystems" part of the boot sequence, then kicks me out to a shell with a message about there being a wrong magic number and running e2fsck
[06:45] <pws69> how do you make that mac os  style dock in ubuntu ?
[06:45] <Luke> eyequeue:  ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, stripped
[06:45] <eyequeue> pws69, what does it do?
[06:45] <Adam_G> Now, the partition is /dev/sda5, and it runs JFS, not ext
[06:45] <lukky> thnaks guys
[06:45] <cherubiel> pws69: check out baghira
[06:45] <lukky> that worked
[06:45] <Adam_G> but heck, i ran e2fsck anyway, and it didn't work
[06:45] <cherubiel> lukky: tht was beerware :P
[06:45] <eyequeue> Luke, if you are sure you trust it, chmod +x it, then ./foo to run
[06:46] <Adam_G> I restart into the LiveCD, and check the partitions
[06:46] <Luke> eyequeue: i tried that already and got the error I posted before
[06:46] <pws69> eyequeue: it makes a dock like in mac os's wit scrolling programs
[06:46] <lukky> cherubiel: lol
[06:46] <eyequeue> Luke, that looks app-specific, i'd check it's man page myself
[06:47] <Luke> eyequeue: this does not have a man page
[06:47] <Adam_G> and /dev/sda5, a JFS partitions, doesn't show jfs as filesystem type under disk manager, but /dev/sda1, which is JFS, shows jfs as filesystem type.
[06:47] <eyequeue> pws69, can you put that in terms someone here would understand?  i have no mac
[06:47] <eyequeue> Luke, i'd never run it then, heh
[06:47] <Adam_G> So, basically, does this mean my /dev/sda5 is screwed? Is there any way to mount it whatsoever? That was mounted as my /home directory, btw...
[06:48] <eyequeue> Luke, see whatever docs it comes with, i guess, maybe some web site docs
[06:48] <Luke> eyequeue: it comes with no docs. It is a ut'99 dedicated server
[06:48] <Adam_G> I have enough space to copy what I need over to another partition, but I can't get it to mount. Is there some way to manually force a mount?
[06:48] <eyequeue> Luke, i have no idea what that means
[06:48] <pws69> eyequeue: it is a sliding list of programs at the bottom of the page which looks great
[06:48] <Luke> eyequeue: Unreal Tournament 1999 the game
[06:48] <eyequeue> Adam_G, this is a wild guess, okay?
[06:48] <pws69> eyequeue: and is typical to mac os
[06:48] <Luke> eyequeue: it is a dedicated server for that game
[06:48] <Adam_G> eyequeue, better than what I've got :D
[06:49] <krazykit> is it just me, or is launchpad.net not loading
[06:49] <eyequeue> pws69, no idea about "sliding lists" sorry
[06:49] <Luke> eyequeue: i'm looking for *why* i cant run it not suggestions on whether I should
[06:49] <eyequeue> Luke, no exposure to such, sorry
[06:49] <SatanGolga> how do u edit so u can change the monitor frequenzy? can only chose 60 Hz in the Screen Resolution option
[06:49] <pws69> cherubiel: baghira.. does that make the dock? i ONLY want the dock
[06:49] <eyequeue> Luke, if it has no docs, you are on your own
[06:49] <ron7684> can anyone help me out with setting up a wireless nic?
[06:50] <eyequeue> Adam_G, see if you can run any fsck on it, or similar
[06:50] <cherubiel> pws69: the first hit in google for baghira has step-by-step instructions to do exactly what you want.
[06:50] <Luke> eyequeue: http://www.dragonbe.be/index.php?module=unreal_tournament
[06:50] <pws69> cherubiel: thanks
[06:50] <eyequeue> Adam_G, hmm, also perhaps file /dev/sda5, and the other jfs partition
[06:50] <pws69> eyequeue: the dock is like the bottom of this screenshot -> http://www.saunalahti.fi/wpoet/scr/scr-macosx3.jpg
[06:51] <Adam_G> eyequeue, I'm reading through the jfs_fsck man page now, hopefully this'll work
[06:51] <krazykit> is there a way to force firefox to use alsa/dmix?
[06:51] <eyequeue> pws69, wow, *very* gui-fied!
[06:52] <lhds> yes i have a toshiba laptop and a hp printer. the driver is covered in ubuntu but it does not seem to find the printer port. how to solve that?
[06:52] <eyequeue> Luke, "the hype"? lol
[06:52] <pws69> eyequeue: that is a screenshot of the mac operating system
[06:52] <Luke> pws69: there is definately something like that called cairo-dock aka gnome-dock but i cannot find it for some reason. try googling for it
[06:52] <Luke> eyequeue: the hype?
[06:52] <eyequeue> Luke, are your configs consistant with what they document on that page?
[06:53] <SatanGolga> How do you change the refresh rate? Can only choose 60 Hz in the Screen Resolution option atm
[06:53] <Luke> eyequeue: the configs have nothing to do with running a binary
[06:53] <eyequeue> Luke, that is the first thing on the page i saw, talking about "the hype" (which to me is negative)
[06:53] <lhds> master satan its like that unless you install your vga driver
[06:53] <ShadowZen> Satan> do you have a LCD ?
[06:53] <Luke> eyequeue: this is a bash error i'm getting
[06:53] <Thorrn4> Hello, could some1 please help me, when I installed Azureus through Synaptic, it also wanted to install Mozilla-browser, but it didnt install, and now everytime I try to install something, it says that there is a broken package (mozilla) that needs to be fixed 1st. Everytime I run apt-get -f install, I get an error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23768
[06:53] <pws69> Luke: i read something about gnome-dock.. lemme google it
[06:53] <wwallace> i need the kubuntu download link please?
[06:53] <lhds>  yes i have a toshiba laptop and a hp printer. the driver is covered in ubuntu but it does not seem to find the printer port. how to solve that?
[06:53] <eyequeue> Luke, your error strongly implies that it can't determine what ro do, based on improper configs
[06:53] <SatanGolga> ShadowZen:  Samsung TFT
[06:53] <slimemonkey> what dvd player is recommended for ubuntu?
[06:54] <lhds> last chance to aswer to me
[06:54] <Luke> pws69: its still pretty beta, i dont know if you'll be able to get it to work yet
[06:54] <krazykit> slimemonkey: totem, usually, but i rather like xine
[06:54] <senori> thorrn: you need to remove mepis-auto-6.0
[06:54] <Luke> eyequeue: if that was the case then the bin would exit with a non-zero code... that is not whats happening
[06:54] <eyequeue> Luke, that is not a bash error, that is an app-generated error message
[06:54] <pws69> Luke: i dont want to break my head with beta then... just took me 2 days to got intel pro wireless to work!!
[06:54] <slimemonkey> krazykit: but i cant play anything with totem...it keeps saying i need a decoder or soemthnig
[06:54] <lhds> wzik
[06:54] <Luke> eyequeue: that is not a app-generated error
[06:54] <SatanGolga> ShadowZen:  maximum should be 1280x1024@75 Hz
[06:55] <Kraig> am i still alive?
[06:55] <Luke> eyequeue: try setting your filesystem to non-exec and you will see this same error
[06:55] <eyequeue> Luke, paste it again?
[06:55] <krazykit> slimemonkey: ah, you need  decss.  i think automatix and easyubuntu will install them, but i much prefer seveas' repo to them.
[06:55] <_jason> Thorrn4: why do you have a mepis package installed?
[06:55] <pws69> cherubiel: baghira isint it KDE based ? doea that work on GNOME?
[06:55] <krazykit> !seveas > slimemonkey
[06:55] <ShadowZen> Satan> don't worry about it, refresh rate is a moot point with LCD
[06:55] <Luke> eyequeue: /opt/ut-server/ucc: line 87: /opt/ut-server/System/ucc-bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:55] <Adam_G> eyequeue, I got through jfs_fsck, time for a restart... bbs, hopefully...
[06:55] <wwallace> i need the kubuntu download link please?
[06:55] <Thorrn4> _jason, I am using Mepis 6.0
[06:55] <Luke> eyequeue: that is most def a bash error
[06:55] <slimemonkey> krazykit: ill go with easyubuntu for now, thx
[06:55] <_jason> Thorrn4: this is #ubuntu :P
[06:55] <eyequeue> Luke, note the lack of "bash" at the front
[06:56] <Thorrn4> _jason, but its based on Ubuntu
[06:56] <dcroce> which browser is the most light weight one out there ?
[06:56] <eyequeue> Luke, it comes from line 87 of your app
[06:56] <SatanGolga> ShadowZen: moot point? isnt it bad for the eyes with just 60 Hz @ 1280x960?
[06:56] <senori> Thorrn4: but it has introduced some differences which make them occasionally incompatible
[06:56] <Luke> eyequeue: then a file system error
[06:56] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon online?
[06:56] <JohnFlux> I copied a movie dvd (home made) as just a VIDEO_TS folder with a bunch of files in it
[06:56] <_jason> Thorrn4: did you try #mepis?  I've never used mepis so I can't really help you
[06:57] <ShadowZen> Satan > your LCD is a digital dispaly, it dos'nt use a refresh rate, it uses a responce time and you can't change that option
[06:57] <JohnFlux> if I write this to a dvd, will I get a movie dvd?
[06:57] <Luke> eyequeue: all I'm saying is this output is not from the app itself. ifyou dont believe me then you have never seen a non-exec filesystem
[06:57] <freaz> nappula: hi
[06:57] <RvGaTe> Hello, i have a problem regarding my nvidia twinview setup... for some reason my left screen doesn't allign correctly when using rgb, my right screen seems to allign correctly using dvi. here's a video on what my problem is... http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.mpg (4,64mb)  the 2 screens are identical and work perfectly in windows, so it does support the resolution... i cant seem to find any reason why it doesn't in ubuntu...
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> no
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> erm
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> guys
[06:57] <ShadowZen> Satan > so no matter what you pic it's allways going to be the same
[06:57] <nappula> freaz: o/
[06:57] <eyequeue> Luke, cat -n /opt/ut-server/ucc | grep 87
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> i've just been installing Ubuntu from the text-based installer
[06:57] <drebs> Hi, someone can help me upgrading ubuntu from Breezy do Dapper?
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> and it finished installing with the installer bar
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> and suddenly
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> my screen goes black
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> with two little grey rectangles
[06:57] <nappula> wwallace: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> and it hasn't changed for a long time
[06:57] <PiedotTaste> :x
[06:57] <slimemonkey> krazykit: thx a lot, easyubuntu is so easy to set up and is amazinghly easy to use as well!!
[06:57] <Luke> eyequeue:     87          exec "./ucc-bin" $*
[06:57] <SatanGolga> SZ: ok :)
[06:58] <LetterRip> offtopic question - does anyone recall the name of the foundation that was set up to do accounting and other paper work for free software developers?
[06:58] <eyequeue> Luke, but if you think your fs is non-exec, why ask here?  why not mount it with different options?
[06:58] <PiedotTaste> Can i nab any of you Ubuntu-experts to help me a second please? :)
[06:58] <LetterRip> or recall who was associated with it?
[06:58] <drebs> Hello, to upgrade from ubuntu Breezy do Dapper i should just change repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list? Or do I have to do something else to make sure things go smoothly?
[06:58] <Luke> eyequeue: because I executed many bins on this FS already
[06:58] <krazykit> drebs: that's pretty much it.
[06:58] <Luke> eyequeue: this is what I get by executing the ucc-bin directly (the one that throws the error): -bash: /opt/ut-server/System/ucc-bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:58] <drebs> thanks, krazykit
[06:59] <eyequeue> Luke, then it wouldn't be non-exec.  in any case, i'm not going to be able to deal with this
[06:59] <Luke> eyequeue: huh?
[06:59] <Luke> eyequeue: did you not read my last message?
[07:00] <RvGaTe> Hello, i have a problem regarding my nvidia twinview setup... for some reason my left screen doesn't allign correctly when using rgb, my right screen seems to allign correctly using dvi. here's a video on what my problem is... http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.mpg (4,64mb)  the 2 screens are identical and work perfectly in windows, so it does support the resolution... i cant seem to find any reason why it doesn't in ubuntu... this is my xorg
[07:00] <RvGaTe> config: http://www.pastebin.ru/4514
[07:00] <eyequeue> Luke, you are telling me you have a non-exec fs that is not non-exec, i don't choose to try to get my head around that
[07:00] <tbcheese> Hi there. i recently installed ubuntu 6.06 and i couldn't get anything connected to the internet. i could ping and traceroute fine but nothing else works. Then I found out that I had to disable IPv6 to get firefox up. But other applications still cant connect. Not even apt-get. Its my first time using linux by the way
[07:00] <Luke> eyequeue: no it is a bash error
[07:00] <pooh_beawr> could you tell me the bash command to send something to the trash can?
[07:00] <_jason> pooh_beawr: mv something ~/.Trash
[07:01] <pooh_beawr> _jason... thanks! :)
[07:01] <Luke> eyequeue: my point is that these kinds of errors do not come from the apps. they are thrown by bash (the shell) when it cannot execute soemthing (my origional problem)
[07:01] <Luke> eyequeue: and example of bash throwing these errors is on a non-exec fs
[07:01] <Luke> eyequeue: i'm not sure why you are so attached to the non-exec fs idea since it was just an example
[07:01] <eyequeue> Luke, good luck
[07:02] <Luke> eyequeue: sooo... you dont know? you are soar because it turned out to be a bash error after all?
[07:02] <eyequeue> Luke, perhaps this is why that app is not in ubuntu
[07:02] <Luke> eyequeue: I am still running ubuntu
[07:02] <eyequeue> Luke, no, i have a problem with your attitude, i don't get paid for this
[07:02] <TEN> Since there's been no solution to the problem of CUPS printing nothing but PS, it's been submitted as https://launchpad.net/bugs/60931 - just in case anyone wakes up with further clues on this ;-)
[07:02] <Luke> eyequeue: if you could be more specific I could try and change?
[07:03] <Luke> eyequeue: i'm not sure what I said that makes you think I have a bad attitude?
[07:03] <eyequeue> Luke, i will no longer try to determine the issues with your non-ubuntu app, good luck with it
[07:03] <Wandering_Youth> Well I just installed Ubuntu and I gotta say I'm liking it :)
[07:03] <mbd> hi! im having some X troubles, it cant register both mouse button getting pressed at  the same time. any tips=
[07:03] <Luke> eyequeue: if you dont know what the problem is then just say so. its fine not to know. Anyway this is way off topic
[07:03] <eyequeue> !guidelines
[07:03] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:03] <SatanGolga> how do i reintall vmware-server ?
[07:04] <Seveas> eyequeue, please read them too
[07:04] <Seveas> no need to be so defensiv
[07:04] <djancak> I HATE ALL OF YOU sup
[07:04] <bluescreen> good evening is someone there who has much experience with data recovery?
[07:05] <Luke> does anyone else have any ideas about my non-executable bin problem?
[07:05] <caepi1> Can anyone give me some suggestions about Evolution? I cannot get past the first screen - "Forward" is grayed out.
[07:05] <Seveas> Luke, does the file exist, is it chmod +x?
[07:05] <Luke> Seveas: yes
[07:05] <Wandering_Youth> Ok, time for a noob question. I installed from the live cd...so...whats the root pw and how do I change it?
[07:05] <Seveas> Luke, did you compile it?
[07:06] <iceman24k> Is there anything like guild wars for Linux ?
[07:06] <Luke> Seveas: i think something eyequeue said may have lead me to find the answer though. I'm trying to run this on a sparc64 and it seems this bin is for ARM
[07:06] <Luke> Seveas: no
[07:06] <mbd> hi! im having some X troubles, it cant register both mouse button getting pressed at  the same time. any tips?
[07:06] <Seveas> Luke, well, you answered my next question already ;)
[07:06] <Luke> Seveas: they dont have the source available since this stuff was all made in like... 2001 =/
[07:06] <Luke> Seveas: ok thanks for trying =D
[07:06] <Wandering_Youth> I guess I'll consult my good friend google..
[07:06] <Seveas> Luke, maybe you can find an ARM emulator somewhere
[07:07] <^Z3D^> Help!  I cant get any flash media USB card readers to work on my dell XPS m1210
[07:07] <iceman24k> Is there anything like guild wars for Linux ?
[07:07] <Luke> Seveas: ooh good suggestion
[07:07] <Luke> Seveas: I will google that - thanks
[07:07] <Wandering_Youth> Iceman you might try to run it with wine?
[07:07] <Seveas> !find arm
[07:07] <ubotu> Found: gucharmap, hdparm, kalarm, karm, libgucharmap4 (and 16 others)
[07:07] <Seveas> !karm
[07:07] <ubotu> karm: KDE time tracker tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 426 kB, installed size 1276 kB
[07:07] <iceman24k> Wandering_Youth have considered that, but was looking for something for linux itself
[07:08] <Adam_G> ok, well... not sure what i did...
[07:08] <Wandering_Youth> Well I'm not sure if they have native port of it...
[07:08] <Wandering_Youth> Me being a noob and all ;)
[07:09] <Adam_G> suffice it to say I have my home folder back, but I dont have the slightest clue what I did wrong
[07:09] <pooh_beawr> what would happen if I just deleted drive Z in wine... cause I sorta did :-P
[07:09] <Adam_G> it seems the problem was actually that the /dev/sda4 filesystem was marked as ext3. I switched it to JFS, got a ton of warnings when I restarted- but it worked.
[07:10] <drebs> People, about the breezy -> dapper dist-upgrade... Do I have to be careful with something or a apt-get dist-upgrade will solve all my problems? hehe
[07:10] <iceman24k> Wandering_Youth no Linux distro "Guild wars" but was wondering if there was a Linux game itself.
[07:10] <Adam_G> And the odd part it, that partition really *is* ext3.
[07:10] <Adam_G> So I've switched back to ext3. But will it get the same problem when I restart again?
[07:10] <SatanGolga> what!? dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove vmware which isn't installed.  but hen i try to install it it says:  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.   How to proceed?
[07:11] <Wandering_Youth> iceman...when I said native port...I meant that they have released it for Linux....you MIGHT be able to emulate it but thats as far as it'll go
[07:11] <Wandering_Youth> Ah well I dunno what I'm talking about :3
[07:13] <iceman24k> Wandering_Youth i was trying to avoid emulition, but you were correct in the terminoligy. i was looking for a simular game distributed for linux itself.
[07:13] <cschneid> how do I remove a package w/o having it attempt to install waiting packages?  The waiting ones try going first, which causes the whole thing to fail.
[07:13] <Storkme> the command `sensors` shows a 'Temp3' -- how do i find out what that actually is measuring? it's a thermistor and usually around 24C
[07:13] <crooksey> can anyone help me on my thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1510049#post1510049 ?
[07:14] <saiko> hi, i just installed bittornado and wonder how do i run it ?
[07:14] <pipegeek> Something very strange is happening... Yesterday, after having run an update the previous day, the closed-source nvidia driver stopped working for me (I got an unresolved symbol error trying to insert the module).  I just downgraded to a different kernel, and now I have an even odder problem: the module is there, and loads, but X complains that there is no nvidia module available.  What gives?
[07:14] <pipegeek> Running dapper, and my card is a geforce 3
[07:14] <saiko> from what i can tell i should install bittornado-gui as well, though maybe i could use just console mode for it ?
[07:14] <Genscher> hey :)
[07:14] <pipegeek> Thanks in advance for any help
[07:14] <Genscher> simple question
[07:14] <pipegeek> :^)
[07:14] <Genscher> :)
[07:15] <saiko> if only i knew the command, if any ?
[07:15] <crooksey> pipegeek, get the drivers from nvidia.com and they will install new kernel files
[07:15] <Genscher> how can i change that totem is started when i insert a dvd/cd? i like to have vlc started (i installed already vlc, but need to change the "autorun default"). Where can i do that?
[07:16] <pipegeek> crooksey: OK, but why is it that X doesn't see the module that's there?  It refuses to load, saying "module does not exist"
[07:16] <jrib> Genscher: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[07:16] <pipegeek> crooksey: again, the module itself is present, and loads without an error
[07:16] <crooksey> the nvidia drivers should install the module
[07:16] <^Z3D^> Question: I recently upgraded my kernel from 2.6.15-23 to 2.6.15-26, i now have both on my boot menu, will i have problems if i boot my old kernel?
[07:17] <crooksey> ^Z3D^: yes
[07:17] <pipegeek> crooksey: I don't *need* the module.  I have a working module.  X ignores it.
[07:17] <^Z3D^> crooksey: thnx
[07:17] <crooksey> you do need it, thats why X isnt working
[07:17] <Genscher> thsnk you jrib
[07:17] <aburton> is edgy planning on getting rid of Network Administration Tool?
[07:17] <crooksey> abuton: i think they are making an equiv tool
[07:17] <iceman24k> Wandering_Youth ha found this :)   KrabbitWorld Labyrinth (Linux) 1.18   http://www.topshareware.com/KrabbitWorld-Labyrinth-(Linux)-download-44194.htm
[07:17] <pipegeek> crooksey: It's there.  modprobe nvidia succeeds, and no error is output to dmesg.
[07:18] <aburton> crooksey: good, because it SUCKS
[07:18] <reggie10> whoa
[07:18] <^Z3D^> anyone here using a dell laptop?
[07:18] <crooksey> Have done
[07:18] <jrib> ^Z3D^: probably many
[07:18] <aldur> lo
[07:18] <crooksey> pipegeek: what error do you get?
[07:18] <pipegeek> crooksey: Moreover, why is the version in dapper not working?
[07:18] <reggie10> anyone using aMSN in Ubuntu?
[07:18] <^Z3D^> im trying to troubleshoot my media card readers
[07:18] <crooksey> reggie10: yes
[07:19] <pipegeek> crooksey: Again, the error is "Failed to load module 'nvidia' (module does not exist, 0)
[07:19] <crooksey> "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[07:19] <reggie10> Hi crooksey... how do you install it? (i am a Linux Newbie)
[07:19] <crooksey> and nvidia shouldnt be a module in xorg.conf
[07:19] <RogerRabb> is there an equivilent in linux to os x's automator?
[07:19] <crooksey> reggie10: sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:20] <pipegeek> crooksey: ...Holy shit.  I certainly didn't uninstall that intentionally.  Somehow it got removed.  Sorry to bother you all
[07:20] <reggie10> crooksey: pardon?
[07:20] <sedrake> I'm trying to get tvout working (nvidia), I've tryed 3 guides but my tv remain black.. what to do?
[07:20] <Sp4rKY> hi
[07:20] <ron7684> this might be a stupid question but im new to linux in general, do drivers that work one one distro work on another?
[07:20] <crooksey> reggie10: aplications, accesories, then click terminal
[07:20] <reggie10> crooksey: sorry I am REALLY new
[07:20] <g00lan> hello, i did something wrong i think when i tryied to fix xgl + compis.. so now i cant shutdown the computer..  anyone know how to fix it? or if you can "restore" everything ?
[07:20] <reggie10> crooksey: oh ok
[07:21] <crooksey> reggie10: then type "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[07:21] <crooksey> g00lan: backup xorg.conf?
[07:21] <reggie10> crooksey: Thanks!
[07:21] <crooksey> np
[07:22] <g00lan> crooksey,  i was stupid and didnt make a backup...
[07:22] <crooksey> g00lan:  sudo dep-reconfigure xserver
[07:23] <crooksey> g00lan:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:23] <crooksey> thats the one ^^
[07:23] <ron7684> has anyone come across a ubuntu x86_64 driver for the dwl-g520 wireless nic
[07:23] <g00lan> crooksey,  thx, i will try it out. :)
[07:24] <crooksey> ron7684: use ndiswrapper
[07:24] <crooksey> ron7684: with windows drivers
[07:24] <ron7684> i have no clue how to use anything in linux
[07:25] <crooksey> google "ndiswrapper"
[07:25] <nomasteryoda> !ndiswrapper > ron7684
[07:25] <reggie10> crooksey: says it couldnt find package amsn
[07:25] <Chousuke> Hmmh
[07:25] <GBoS> ZEdWemRHRmpZMjkxYm5RN05EVmtNbVEzT0RVNE5USTJaR0U0TkdZeU1XWTFaRFV3TlRKbFptWXdOalU3T3pnMkxqRXpOQzR4TkM0eU5EQT18MjA2OTgyMjkyNQ    << anyone know what that string could be encrypted with?
[07:25] <SatanGolga> what!? dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove vmware which isn't installed.  but hen i try to install it it says:  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.   How to proceed?
[07:25] <crooksey> reggie10 sudo apt-get update
[07:25] <nomasteryoda> rsa
[07:25] <crooksey> then try again
[07:25] <groovydon> quit
[07:25] <reggie10> crooksey: tnanks
[07:26] <Chousuke> Somehow ndiswrapper sound like something that might not work on x86_64.
[07:26] <crooksey> it will
[07:26] <PiedotTaste> Okay
[07:26] <PiedotTaste> guys
[07:26] <PiedotTaste> I know your busy and stuff
[07:26] <PiedotTaste> but can i have some help please?
[07:26] <^Z3D^> Chousuke: all the necesary modules are built into the kernels
[07:26] <crooksey> sure
[07:26] <jrib> !ask
[07:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <PiedotTaste> well
[07:27] <Chousuke> How would 32bit windows drivers work on a 64bit system? Or how does it work?
[07:27] <PiedotTaste> i was just installing Ubuntu on my laptop
[07:27] <PiedotTaste> as text-based
[07:27] <reggie10> crooksey: now what?
[07:27] <jrib> !enter
[07:27] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:27] <crooksey> type in "amsn"
[07:27] <PiedotTaste> when it gets to 60% of the "Select and Install software"
[07:27] <PiedotTaste> it just crashes
[07:27] <PiedotTaste> it goes into a black screen
[07:27] <PiedotTaste> with two little grey rectangles
[07:27] <PiedotTaste> and just stays there :x
[07:27] <jrib> PiedotTaste: did you burn the cd?
[07:27] <^Z3D^> Chousuke: sorry cant help there, i just know it works ;)
 Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > PiedotTaste
[07:27] <crooksey> reggie10, type in amsn
[07:27] <ryctor> ndiswrapper but not shure works with x64
[07:29] <reggie10> crooksey: command not found
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> yes i burnt the CD jrib
[07:29] <crooksey> applications, internet, amsn
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> i don't know why it's doing it
[07:29] <jrib> PiedotTaste: what speed did you burn it at?
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> 48x
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> or something similar
[07:29] <jrib> PiedotTaste: yeah, burn at like 2x or 4x
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> oh
[07:29] <reggie10> crooksey: I have the files DL'd already
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> i gotta reburn it at 2x or 4x then
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> :x
[07:29] <crooksey> just type "amsn"
[07:29] <PiedotTaste> any preference to which one?
[07:29] <dk06> where is trash located in ubuntu
[07:29] <mrbrdo> when i run aptitude update, it ignores all lines which have Translation-en_US (or en_GB) at the end (example: Ign http://si.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_GB)
[07:29] <reggie10> .tar.gz and .deb
[07:30] <crooksey> okay
[07:30] <crooksey> double clikc the .deb
[07:30] <Jack_Sparrow> PiedotTaste: Do you understand what Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying. means...   Put everything on one LINE
[07:30] <dk06> where is the trash bin located in dapper
[07:30] <lupine_85> "There exists also a DWL-G520. It has an Atheros chipset, supported by the madwifi driver on Linux"... no need for ndiswrapper :)
[07:30] <reggie10> crooksey: could not open
[07:31] <crooksey> did you open the terminal?
[07:31] <TEN> BTW: Emergence at last! ubotu said: "Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)" It philosophizes! So it must be self-conscious... Cogitat ergo est! ;-))
[07:31] <reggie10> oop
[07:31] <reggie10> s
[07:31] <crooksey> do that
[07:31] <dk06> does anyone know how i can empty my trash bin???
[07:31] <lupine_85> GBoS: where did you get the string from?
[07:31] <crooksey> then type "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[07:31] <Fraj> if Wine cannot run MS office
[07:31] <Fraj> will VMWare be able to do it?
[07:31] <GBoS> a cookie, lupine_85
[07:31] <reggie10> crooksey: sudo apt-get install amsn?
[07:31] <crooksey> Crossover office can
[07:31] <dk06> fraj: crossover office can run ms office
[07:31] <crooksey> reggie10: yes
[07:31] <lupine_85> Fraj: Crossover Office
[07:31] <dk06> cmon
[07:31] <lupine_85> or just use open office
[07:31] <jrib> dk06: right click on the panel > add to panel, add the trash
[07:32] <dk06> ty jrib
[07:32] <Fraj> ok thanks!
[07:32] <cronos3> #ubuntu-es
[07:32] <lupine_85> GBoS: it's probably an MD5 sum, and hence, not decryptabl
[07:32] <reggie10> crooksey: no go...Couldn't find packge
[07:32] <lupine_85> ...e
[07:32] <reggie10> crooksey: it did the update ok
[07:32] <dk06> jrib: where is trash locatd
[07:32] <lupine_85> ~/.Trash ?
[07:32] <crooksey> ok so type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:32] <jrib> dk06: under "Desktop and Windows"
[07:32] <mrbrdo> please help - Ignored lines when doing aptitude update: http://paste.uni.cc/10159
[07:33] <lupine_85> yep - "drwx------  2 lupine lupine  4096 2006-09-04 14:44 .Trash"
[07:33] <crooksey> and then all the places where you see a web url, delete the ## before them leavin no space
[07:33] <dk06> thanks guys
[07:33] <cronos3> I installed celestia and googleearth.. but they dont work... I have an ati card working perfectly with 3D
[07:33] <cherubiel> reggie10: make sure you have universe repo turned on apt
[07:33] <cronos3> could be something with xorg conf..?
[07:33] <atraeyu> I'm having trouble getting a working telnet server running on ubuntu dapper.   I installed telnetd (apt-get install telnetd) and I thought I would just need to start the daemon (/etc/init.d/inetd start) but the inetd daemon does not exist ... any ideas?
[07:34] <crooksey> atraeyu: try "restart"
[07:34] <cronos3> celestia and googleearth not working...
[07:34] <atraeyu> crooksey: the inetd file does not exist
[07:34] <jrib> atraeyu: don't use telnet, use ssh
[07:34] <lupine_85> xinet instead?
[07:34] <cronos3> dp I have to conf something in xorg..?
[07:34] <atraeyu> jrib: Just a home server, don't need ssh
[07:35] <crooksey> atraeyu: try restarting pc?
[07:35] <reggie10> all: brb
[07:35] <mrbrdo> i get a lot of Ign (ignored) lines when doing aptitude update: http://paste.uni.cc/10159 please help
[07:35] <atraeyu> crooksey:  tried that
[07:35] <nd0627> @everyone: what's the difference when you add 'smbfs' in sudo apt-get install samba ????
[07:35] <atraeyu> lupine_85: xinet doesn't exist either
[07:35] <lupine_85> Are you sure it's even using inetd?
[07:35] <lupine_85> he doesn't mean it...
[07:35] <PiedotTaste> Guys
[07:35] <surimi> j'ai un script qui me dit a Just press enter if you want to use the default path
[07:35] <surimi>     /root/fontbase/
[07:36] <lupine_85> how about /etc/telnet* start ?
[07:36] <lupine_85> erm, /etc/init.d rather
[07:36] <surimi> c'est pas bon?
[07:36] <lupine_85> if it's just a home server, you don't need inetd
[07:36] <PiedotTaste> Hmm
[07:36] <PiedotTaste> um
[07:36] <niruana> ] hi all, how do i stop a device?
[07:36] <nd0627> what does the 'smbfs' do in sudo apt-get install samba smbfs ???
[07:36] <niruana> i want to run a programm but he says that i cant run it because the device is in use...
[07:36] <lupine_85> dpkg -L smbfs
[07:36] <surimi> sorry not the good windows :)
[07:37] <magnet> nd0627: installs it
[07:37] <arkangelp> HEllo everyone
[07:37] <Fraj> can ubunto open .rar or .zip files?
[07:38] <magnet> Fraj: it's ubuntu, and yes, it can
[07:38] <lupine_85> or just "/usr/sbin/in.telnetd -edebug &"
[07:38] <niruana> yes Fraj but you need to install it manualy
[07:38] <Fraj> where can i get them from?
[07:38] <niruana> it isnt included in ubuntu
[07:38] <Fraj> cos when i try to open them it says archive not compatible or something like that
[07:38] <magnet> sudo apt-get install unrar unzip
[07:38] <Fraj> ahhh ok
[07:39] <magnet> (if it doesn't work, activate the multiverse)
[07:39] <PiedotTaste> Umm, can anybody come up with a solution to why when it gets to 60% of the "Select and Install software" the Ubuntu text-based installation crashes to a black screen with two grey squares?
[07:39] <atk> For some reason gnochm stopped working. I haven't upgraded since the last time it worked and I don't have clue why it does this http://rafb.net/paste/results/fZDKhz71.html Now removing it and reinstalling didn't do any good
[07:39] <reggie10> crooksey: ok now what? (duh - sorry)
[07:39] <PiedotTaste> Somebody suggested that i should burn the CD at a lower speed, but i don't think that would work, and also my CD-burner doesn't go that low.
[07:39] <saiko> is there an easy way to remove dependencies when i uninstall that software ?
[07:40] <magnet> saiko: aptitude
[07:40] <saiko> complete removal doesn't do the trick, depended packages remain on the system ..
[07:40] <niruana> I get this error when i want to change my mac adress ...
[07:40] <saiko> magnet: ok, will lokk into it
[07:40] <niruana> ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Device or resource busy
[07:40] <niruana> i'm root
[07:40] <mrbrdo> i get a lot of Ign (ignored) lines when doing aptitude update: http://paste.uni.cc/10159 someone plz?
[07:40] <niruana> and yes i'm now using that device for internt
[07:41] <mrbrdo> it's for the translation repos
[07:41] <mrbrdo> can someone please take a look at it
[07:41] <Wandering_Youth> I'm trying to mount my Windows partition (NTFS) for read only. The problem is that according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[07:41] <vikesh> hi, when i open lots of applications ( kaffeine, firefox , rythumbox ) , the computer doesn't respond for about 10 mins or so.
[07:41] <Wandering_Youth> Help? =/
[07:41] <Fraj> are there any p2p applications for linux?
[07:42] <mrbrdo> Fraj almost everything
[07:42] <johns^> Wandering_Youth: umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:42] <Wandering_Youth> hrmmm
[07:42] <PiedotTaste> Can i PM a person in this channel so that i can calmly ask for help about installing Ubuntu?
[07:42] <magnet> mrbrdo: that's not a problem
[07:42] <Wandering_Youth> do I type sudo before that? ;3
[07:42] <mrbrdo> Fraj aMule\xMule, some torrents
[07:42] <nickspoon> Fraj: many, what are you looking for in particular?
[07:42] <[H] 3b0R> anyone here exited about edgy?:D
[07:42] <mrbrdo> magnet: how so?
[07:42] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: if you like :)
[07:42] <johns^> Wandering_Youth: yep
[07:42] <PiedotTaste> Nickspoon!
[07:42] <PiedotTaste> yay!
[07:42] <reggie10> anyone know how to install aMSN on Ubuntu?
[07:42] <mrbrdo> magnet: why is it displaying that? why is it ignoring the lines?
[07:42] <PiedotTaste> I can't PM cos i'm not registered
[07:42] <PiedotTaste> can you pm me, Nickspon?
[07:42] <PiedotTaste> nickspoon*
[07:42] <johns^> mrbrdo: sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:42] <[H] 3b0R> reggie10: use automatix
[07:42] <magnet> mrbrdo: because the repositories are broken
[07:43] <Fraj> i was jst wandering
[07:43] <reggie10> johns: I did that
[07:43] <mrbrdo> johns^: what's that?
[07:43] <magnet> mrbrdo: that's what you expect from a *beta* release
[07:43] <johns^> sorry, reggie10
[07:43] <reggie10> lol
[07:43] <johns^> ;)
[07:43] <Fraj> what about antivirus and anti spyware tools for linux are there any out their? is it hard 2 get spyware / viruses on linux?
[07:43] <mrbrdo> magnet: so edgy did that? but it doesn't break anything?
[07:43] <mrbrdo> johns^: really, what is it?
[07:43] <johns^> no it was aimed at reggie10
[07:43] <magnet> mrbrdo: once again, there's no problem; just wait a few days and update again
[07:43] <reggie10> johns: I also did the updates
[07:43] <niruana> How do i solve this error? I'm root... ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Device or resource busy
[07:44] <Wandering_Youth> Thank you ^_^
[07:44] <johns^> add some repositories
[07:44] <mrbrdo> magnet: oh, it's only a current state, and will work later?
[07:44] <niruana> how can i stop resources using it?
[07:44] <reggie10> johns: you will have to excuse me - i am a newbie
[07:44] <nickspoon> PiedotTaste: try now.
[07:44] <niruana> i'm using the device right now for the internet i'm on right now
[07:44] <magnet> mrbrdo: well, I'm not a seer, but I guess it should; it shows you never used debian unstable :)
[07:45] <mrbrdo> magnet: actually i did O_o
[07:45] <reggie10> johns: i have both the .tar.gz and the deb DL
[07:45] <magnet> mrbrdo: and you didn't get those? :)
[07:45] <mrbrdo> magnet: never got that though
[07:45] <bastu> Hello! I have been trying to get iptables to work correctly and i've gotten far. The biggest problem i am having now is that iptables won't load my rules on reboot. I have a file /etc/default/iptables-rules with my specified rules but iptables does not load it. Unless i run the script, with the rules again, again overriding the rules, with the same rules, again.. i guess.. how can i make iptables load with the correct rules on startup?
[07:45] <mrbrdo> magnet: nope
[07:45] <magnet> mrbrdo: well lucky you :)
[07:45] <mrbrdo> magnet: but i didn't update so often though
[07:45] <johns^> reggie10: you don't have to download it manually
[07:45] <mrbrdo> magnet: it might be i just didn't notice it though :)
[07:45] <reggie10> johns: oh
[07:46] <johns^> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <magnet> mrbrdo: anyway, just wait a few days or till edgy is officially released, it will be solved then
[07:46] <dcroce> anyone here use the browser, swiftfox?
[07:46] <krazykit> is there a way to mount apple's afp shares in linux?  i know netatalk provides servers, but i need a client
[07:46] <reggie10> I am there now....and removed the ##
[07:46] <mrbrdo> magnet: it's going to be released soon? :P
[07:46] <cherubiel> reggie10: apt-get update; apt-get install amsn
[07:46] <magnet> mrbrdo: go to #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <cronos3> some has install googleearth?
[07:46] <johns^> isn't amsn in the multiverse repo's?
[07:46] <johns^> cronos3: I did
[07:46] <reggie10> cherub: i did all that
[07:47] <mrbrdo> magnet: ok thanks a lot :)
[07:47] <CromagDK> !amsn
[07:47] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[07:47] <bastu> Can someone help me with the iptables problem i specified above?
[07:47] <magnet> mrbrdo: np, good luck :)
[07:47] <sedrake> I get this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23771 when running lspci, what is my BusID to use for TV-Out?
[07:47] <princemackenzie> hey, so the 6.06 live CD will not recognize my NIC... any ideas
[07:47] <cherubiel> reggie10: run amsn then :P
[07:47] <princemackenzie> its an nforce430 chipset
[07:47] <reggie10> lol
[07:47] <magnet> bastu: yep
[07:47] <bastu> magnet: thanks
[07:48] <saiko> sorry, what's the difference between purge and remove package in aptitude ?
[07:48] <bastu> magnet: did you read my first port?
[07:48] <gbutler69> What's the best place to report a problem with Edgy Eft detecting/setting up Network? The install CD does not seem to detect or set up my network card. I'm left with a system that has no network after installation.
[07:48] <bastu> post
[07:48] <magnet> bastu: yep
[07:48] <jtibau> one question: if I install two linux distros on the same system, can they share the swap partition
[07:48] <bastu> magnet: ok then.. =)
[07:48] <princemackenzie> gbutler, i'm in the same boat
[07:48] <magnet> bastu: what's the script reading the rules file you've got in /etc/defaults?
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i check which kernal im using
[07:49] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: uname -a
[07:49] <Kyral> uname -r
[07:49] <jtibau> uname
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[07:49] <jtibau> :X
[07:49] <jtibau> XD
[07:49] <bastu> magnet: its an script i got, and edited, from ubuntuforums. it loads some nat and port rules basicly.. its now in /usr/local/sbin
[07:49] <magnet> and it's kernel :)
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> uname just gives Linux
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> got it
[07:50] <magnet> bastu: ok so what you wanna do is launch it when you boot, there are multiple ways to do this; what's your usage of ubuntu? (server, desktop)?
[07:50] <bastu> desktop
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> am i up to date with this kernal "2.6.15-26-386"
[07:50] <magnet> bastu: ok; so the first step is to make a symlink to your script in /etc/init.d/
[07:50] <jtibau> i need to install edubuntu to show LTSP at some schools... But only want to use it for showcasing. If I install ubuntu for work, can they both share the same swap??
[07:51] <bastu> magnet: how?
[07:51] <magnet> bastu: thats sudo ln -s /path/to/your/scripts /etc/init.d/iptables-firewall
[07:51] <reggie10> arrrrrggggg
[07:51] <Millen> hi again
[07:51] <jtibau> anybody??
[07:51] <Millen> isn't there a identd installed by default in ubuntu? had some problems connecting here to freenode
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> is this the latest stable Kernal for my comp 2.6.15-26-386
[07:52] <bastu> magnet: ok.. i'll try that, thanks!
[07:52] <magnet> bastu: that's the *first* step
[07:52] <bastu> magnet: oh sorry
[07:52] <bastu> magnet: =)
[07:52] <magnet> bastu: I hate when I help people and they don't bother to read
[07:52] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: I got the same one, it's default for dapper
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:53] <Millen> Paddy_EIRE: same here.
[07:53] <Millen> just got it installed
[07:53] <Millen> or.. well.. updated or something.
[07:53] <bastu> magnet: i'm sorrt
[07:53] <Millen> isn't there a identd installed as default in ubuntu?
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anything i could do with it, as in is it running at its best for my system
[07:53] <magnet> bastu: next step is asking the init system to launch your script at runlevel 2
[07:53] <SuperMiguel> does any one how to make an ftp server?
[07:53] <lupine_85> Millen: doesn't look like it
[07:53] <atraeyu> Is it possible to use remote desktop with a linux server?
[07:54] <Boll> SuperMiguel: aptitude install vsftpd
[07:54] <magnet> atraeyu: as long as it has X
[07:54] <proj> good evening everyone: how do I unmount my root file system so that I can remount it read-only.. I have gotten as far as "sudo init 1"
[07:54] <Millen> lupine_85: i doesnt, huh... you had problems connecting to freenode aswell?
[07:54] <reggie10> cherub: "unabloe to lock the list directory" ... what is this?
[07:54] <reggie10> *unable
[07:54] <bastu> magnet: k
[07:54] <lupine_85> Millen: no...
[07:54] <Polygon> hello, im on a live cd right now and i need to figure out what hard drive (like hda1 ... etc0) my ubuntu partition is on so i can restore grub. How do i list what partitons i have on my hard drive?
[07:54] <proj> a hit would be nice.. no full explanation needed. :)
[07:54] <nickspoon> reggie10: is that running apt-get/synaptic?
[07:54] <proj> hint*
[07:54] <proj> :)
[07:54] <starscreamx> Hey guys thanks for helping me install ubuntu =]  I burned a new cd at a slower rate and everything installed perfect.
[07:54] <magnet> proj: sudo mount -o remount-ro /dev/device_number /
[07:54] <zer0skill> princemackenzie jadacyrus mike8901 DaveyJ... any of you about?
 nice one
[07:55] <magnet> bastu: you need to use the update-rc.d script to do this
[07:55] <Millen> lupine_85: are you using any identd server? I just gonna use it for irc. cause some nets require it.
 ur first
[07:55] <PiedotTaste> starscreamx
[07:55] <reggie10> nick: apt-get install amsn AND apt-get update
[07:55] <PiedotTaste> seriously?
[07:55] <proj> magnet: that should work in single user mode ?
[07:55] <PiedotTaste> wow
[07:55] <jtibau> Millen: if your pc is a recent dual core or hyper-thread you should install 686 smp
[07:55] <PiedotTaste> thats what i'm about to try
[07:55] <PiedotTaste> O:
[07:55] <magnet> proj: only in single mode yep
[07:55] <starscreamx> but can you all tell me why skype isn't working with ubuntu?
[07:55] <Boll> proj: sudo mount -o remount ro /
[07:55] <lupine_85> oh, identd... no, not using anything like that :)
[07:55] <starscreamx> and why there isnt a options in the tools menu in firefox?
 it should be
[07:55] <zer0skill> i could make skype work with ubuntu.
[07:56] <Polygon> hello, im on a live cd right now and i need to figure out what hard drive (like hda1) my ubuntu partition is on so i can restore grub. How do i list what partitons i have on my hard drive?
[07:56] <magnet> proj: and you could omit the device
[07:56] <princemackenzie> zer0skill, i'm here
[07:56] <Millen> jtibau: 686 smp? was that msg for me? :-)
[07:56] <Gilnim> does somebody has a suggestion how to run my ATI Radeon X1600 Pro graphic card under Ubuntu 64bit?
 i got a guide here somewhere
[07:56] <proj> magnet Boll: many thanks.. I will give this a try
[07:56] <bastu> magnet: update-rc.d /etc/init.d/firewall-rules? or? something like that? i guess im missing some var
[07:56] <Boll> Polygon: fdisk /dev/hda
[07:56] <magnet> proj: be careful there's a mistake in Boll's answer
[07:56] <magnet> bastu: yep you are
[07:56] <nickspoon> reggie10: at the same time?
[07:56] <zer0skill> princemackenzie, PM?
[07:56] <starscreamx> skype has a version made for ubuntu but it says something in red let me run it again
[07:56] <nickspoon> or one after the other?
[07:56] <jtibau> Millen: sorry I meant Paddy_EIRE
[07:56] <bastu> magnet: i always am, kinda my speciality
[07:56] <Polygon> boll: it says unable to open hda
[07:57] <starscreamx> when the download prompt in firefox comes up it doesnt let me save only open..
[07:57] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: do you have a dual core processor?
[07:57] <Millen> np, just got confused.
[07:57] <Boll> Polygon: your disk is probably something else
[07:57] <princemackenzie> zer0skill, new IRC client, bear with me
[07:57] <bastu> magnet: whats the right way+
[07:57] <proj> magnet: ok. thanks again
[07:57] <Polygon> ok ill try some other ones
 no just a athlon xp 1600
[07:57] <zer0skill> Who needs help installing Skype?
[07:57] <starscreamx> me
[07:57] <Millen> heh
[07:57] <magnet> bastu: sudo update-rc.d iptables-firewall start 30 2 .
[07:57] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: mmm I think you can install a k6 kernel then
[07:57] <Boll> Polygon: dmesg | grep hd
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[07:57] <magnet> bastu: and don't forget the trailing dot "."
[07:57] <Millen> btw, is there a version of google talk for linux?
[07:58] <starscreamx> it  error:dependency is not satisfiable: libqt3-mt|libqt3c102-mt
 what will that mean for me
[07:58] <reggie10> nick: nooooooo.... sorry
[07:58] <Millen> maybe i'll just check their site. ;-)
[07:58] <magnet> Millen: not their client, but any jabber/xmpp client will do it
[07:58] <Polygon> k thanks
[07:58] <bastu> magnet: can you explain the start ** * function? might be good to know later
[07:58] <reggie10> when I do each I get same response
[07:58] <jtibau> Paddy_EIREL it's supposed to have some compile directives which work better for that processor
[07:58] <magnet> bastu: ** * ?
[07:58] <J-_> anyone know if the scanner works for the hp officejet 6210 multifunction?
[07:58] <bastu> magnet: ok
[07:58] <zer0skill> starscreamx, PM has the answer.
[07:58] <nickspoon> reggie10: do you happen to be running Synaptic at the same time?
[07:58] <bastu> magnet: what 30 2 . stands for and its other variables
[07:58] <cschneid> how do I tell apt-get to ignore 'pending' packages?
[07:59] <magnet> bastu: 30 is the priority, 2 the runlevel
[07:59] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: rather than standard options... It would be more appropiate for your cpu
[07:59] <reggie10> nick: not sure... i am a newbie in Linux
[07:59] <bastu> magnet: ok sweet
[07:59] <magnet> bastu: the trailing dot is just a delimiter
[07:59] <Polygon> thanks boll, i found the hd
[07:59] <bastu> magnet: ok but its needs to be there?
[07:59] <magnet> bastu: it does
[07:59] <Boll> Polygon: no problem.
[07:59] <bastu> magnet: ok
[07:59] <J-_> anyone know if the scanner works for the hp officejet 6210 multifunction?
[08:00] <starscreamx> how do i get to the command prompt?
[08:00] <bastu> magnet: was that all?
[08:00] <magnet> starscreamx: Applications > Tools > Terminal
[08:00] <magnet> bastu: yep
[08:00] <magnet> bastu: that is, if your script works
[08:00] <reggie10> there has to be an easier way
[08:01] <gbutler69> Princemackenzie: Any ideas about how to address the network problem with Edgy? I just submitted a bug on Malone with the output of 'lspci' 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and 'cat /proc/modules' (run from Dapper). Any other thoughts on this?
[08:01] <jtibau> does anyone now if there is a problem in sharing a swap partition between two linux installations??????
 is there documentation on ubuntu's site for this so i dont ruin my setup....it runs very well at the mo...but if it could run better then
[08:01] <bastu> magnet: ok Thanks alot, I really appriciate it. I'll try it now.. And yes it does.. something definitly happens when i run it! =)
[08:01] <kitche> jtibau: shouldn't be since swap gets whiped out on a shutdown
[08:01] <magnet> bastu: ok, as long as you had no error when entering the commands, it's ok
[08:01] <reggie10> brb
[08:01] <atk> Why does this http://rafb.net/paste/results/fZDKhz71.html happen when running gnochm?
[08:01] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: give me a second and I'll try to find you some info
[08:02] <magnet> jtibau: as long as the two installations don't run concurrently, there's no problem
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> cheers :)
[08:02] <bastu> magnet: ok see ya, thanks again. (and sorry for not listening clearly in the beginning
[08:02] <jtibau> kitche: that's exactly what I needed to know
[08:02] <jtibau> magnet: thx
[08:02] <magnet> bastu: np, bye
[08:02] <digitalDude> how can I delete my 2 network cards and let ubuntu detect them and reconfigure them ?
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> jtibau: that is what I am already doing with an Arch & Gentoo installation
[08:02] <SatanGolga> uhm, i installed vmware-server, then i happened to try install vmware-workstation and vmware-server stopped working, then i tried to dpkg --purge it and it said it wasnt installed co i tried to reinstall it but then it says its already installed, how can i remove or install it again?
[08:02] <starscreamx> zer0skill im having the download problem in firefox
[08:03] <starscreamx> i clicked save and nothing shows up in the dowloads x_x
[08:03] <ganja_> hey, im trying to install the flash plugin on mozilla, but when i type sudo update-flashplugin shows a error mensage
[08:03] <ganja_> :/
[08:03] <nd0627> @everyone: quick question: what's the difference between gksudo and sudo ??
[08:04] <TheGateKeeper> ganja_: have you already installed flash?
[08:04] <ganja_> yeah
[08:04] <ganja_> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[08:04] <starscreamx> nevermind ill just click open for now on =] 
[08:04] <kitche> nd0626: gksudo is graphical sudo
[08:04] <magnet> nd0627: gksu is for X apps
[08:04] <magnet> nd0627: it's gksu and not gksudo
[08:05] <krazykit> so, is there no way to connect to an afp server from linux?  appletalk file protocol...
[08:05] <magnet> nd0627: (if you want to spare your keyboard ;)
[08:05] <nd0627> @magnet: accdg to a manual in ubuntu.org it's gksudo
[08:05] <magnet> krazykit: of course there is, why not ask google? :)
[08:05] <kitche> magnet: those are the same program lol
[08:05] <krazykit> magnet: i've been asking google.
[08:05] <magnet> nd0627: well, they can be wrong ;)
[08:05] <reggie10> duh...its already installed....
[08:05] <reggie10> amsn that is
[08:05] <krazykit> magnet: and every hit is for either the netatalk server or a kernel module that hasn't worked since 2.1
[08:06] <reggie10> thansk crew!
[08:06] <nd0627> @magnet: ic. thanks
[08:06] <reggie10> thanks too ;)
[08:06] <magnet> nd0627: ls -l  `which gksudo`
[08:06] <magnet> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-07-16 05:19 /usr/bin/gksudo -> gksu
[08:06] <magnet> :)
[08:06] <magnet> krazykit: lemme look a sec
[08:06] <kitche> magnet: well anyways you just proved my point that it's teh same program
[08:06] <slimemonkey123> i tried to install a bunch of things from easyubuntu and i got this error message: "Could not apply changes!
[08:06] <slimemonkey123> Fix broken packages first."
[08:07] <slimemonkey123> can anyone help?
[08:07] <Boll> krazykit: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/net/appletalk/appletalk.ko ?
[08:07] <magnet> kitche: never said otherwise :) cf: <magnet> nd0627: (if you want to spare your keyboard ;)
[08:07] <kitche> slimemonkey123: you have broken packages most likely
[08:07] <magnet> kitche: the genuine name of the program is still gksu
[08:07] <slimemonkey123> kitche: so, how can i fix them?
[08:07] <princemackenzie> gbutler69, i have no idea, my problem is with dapper: im grabbing edgy right now to see if it fixes it, but your thinking seems sound
[08:08] <atraeyu> When I try to restart apache2 (apache2ctl restart) I get the following message: apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[08:08] <atraeyu>  - Anyone know what is causing that?
[08:08] <magnet> krazykit: have you looked at netatalk?
[08:08] <kitche> atraeyu: yeah your httpd.conf is set up wrong
[08:08] <magnet> krazykit: the package?
[08:08] <krazykit> magnet: yeah, it's a server.  i need to be a client
[08:08] <Boll> atraeyu: you havent set ServerName in your configuration?
[08:08] <kitche> slimemonkey123: not without knowing what packages are broken
[08:08] <atraeyu> kitche: I figured that much.  I haven't changed much in it though.
[08:09] <ikonia> !reinstall
[08:09] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[08:09] <zodiaq> q: where I could find network configuration help for ubuntu server? just shell...
[08:09] <SuperMiguel> does any one knwo any ftp server
[08:09] <atraeyu> Boll: I have not ...
[08:09] <kitche> atraeyu: but that's how a default apache works really
[08:09] <J-_> anyone know of a HP multifunction printer that'll work good in ubuntu 6.06?
[08:09] <hume> my toshiba laptop fails to hibernate or suspend - but I cannot find any entries in /var/log/syslog about the suspend process - anyone knows where I can find logs from it?
[08:09] <magnet> krazykit: i'm not really aware on Apple protocols, but how does appletalk relate to bonjour/rendezvous?
[08:09] <slimemonkey123> kitche: ...and then after i pressed ok, a bunch of things appeared in the window titled easyUbuntu.in
[08:09] <magnet> krazykit: (ie zeroconf)
[08:09] <slimemonkey123> kithce: they all look like the status of installing fonts
[08:09] <Boll> atraeyu: Are you using virtual hosts?
[08:10] <bastu> magnet: Thanks, it worked fine with the update-rc thing, thanks again
[08:10] <kitche> slimemonkey123: yeah then I would reinstall the font packages if that's what they are
[08:10] <magnet> np bastu
[08:10] <atraeyu> Boll: I have just a default apache setup, I haven't really configured anything, except I added 3 aliases ...
if i want to install "sudo apt-get install linux-k7" can i still boot the other 2.6.15-26-386
[08:10] <krazykit> magnet: bonjour and rendezvous are just zeroconf, and are only meant for easy finding of services: it's the lazy way of networking ;-).  appletalk is a service similar to samba and nfs.
[08:10] <slimemonkey123> kitche: my reason for doing this was to get totem a decoder and so that it can play .avi files
[08:10] <Boll> atraeyu: and is ServerName set in the configuration file?
[08:10] <krazykit> magnet: it allows for easy printer sharing and filesharing.
[08:10] <magnet> krazykit: ok
[08:11] <magnet> krazykit: apple and their bad habit of renaming everything :)
[08:11] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: I was looking for some info but couldn't find any...
 you see i found this --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255922&highlight=athlon+xp+kernel
[08:11] <atraeyu> Boll: I did a search in apache2.conf for "ServerName" and it does not find it
[08:11] <zodiaq> I have configured iptables, how can I make changes permanent?
[08:11] <grogoreo> for some reaons I'm getting an error with perl saying that LC_ALL isn't set, where can I set it? LANG is set though
[08:11] <magnet> zodiaq: ask bastu
[08:11] <magnet> :)
[08:11] <zer0skill> atraeyu, find / -name "httpd.conf"
 what will i need to know if i use this
[08:11] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: good. When you install a different kernel it doesnt mean you uninstall the other one
[08:12] <nd0627> @everyone: how would you browse shared folder that's in your win xp computer ?
[08:12] <Boll> atraeyu: try adding ServerName fqdn.of.your.server in the configuration
[08:12] <atraeyu> zer0skill: "httpd.conf" is in the same directory, it's an empty file for apache1.x, not used by apache2, i believe
[08:12] <Boll> Let me just check if it needs to go in a specific section.
[08:12] <krazykit> Boll: yeah, but what does that appletalk protocol do?  it might not be the fs...
[08:12] <zer0skill> nd0627, make a FAT32 partition, and mount it at /SHARE or something like that.
[08:12] <zodiaq> magnet: no such user of file name :P
[08:12] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: you just choose at the grub menu which kernel you want to use
 how do i boot the other kernel then if that one gives me trouble
[08:12] <magnet> krazykit: ok so there are utils to print over appletalk but nothing like filesharing
[08:12] <kitche> atraeyu: httpd.conf is used by all of apache
[08:13] <jtibau> Padd_EIRE: the grub list keeps the standard 386, and adds the new one
so i press escape to get the boot menu in grub...i think
[08:13] <Boll> krazykit: Not sure. The kernel source will likely have that documented.
[08:13] <jtibau> Padd_EIRE: exactly
[08:13] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[08:13] <Paddy_EIRE> thx :)
[08:13] <zodiaq> I have configured iptables, how can I make changes permanent? ...and is there easy way to save configured network interfaces configuration?
[08:13] <kitche> krazykit: appletalk is used for appletalk think it's Apple's talk protocol
 1 more thing why did u mention k6 and not k7 out of interest
[08:13] <lupine_85> token ring with worms :)
[08:14] <guychi> Hi. How can I set 4 local direcetories to automatically sync whenever I add or edit a file in any one of them?
[08:14] <magnet> zodiaq: arg he just left; we just went over the same procedure :)
[08:14] <krazykit> Boll: yeah, it just seems to be the protocol itself, rather than the services :-(
[08:14] <lupine_85> (AppleTalk)
[08:14] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: it should work better and as the ubuntuforums post must have said it really doesn't mean you need to do anything differently
[08:14] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[08:14] <Paddy_EIRE> thx :) will be back
[08:14] <Boll> krazykit: ok, my bad then. I haven't actually ever used appletalk myself.
[08:14] <zodiaq> so magnet could u help me?
[08:14] <nd0627> @everyone: how do you make FAT32 partition ??
[08:14] <lupine_85> mkfs.vfat
[08:14] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: got confussed... I don't own an Athlon so I haven't had the chance to install that kernel... Just remembered there was that option
[08:14] <krazykit> Boll: it's ok.
[08:14] <magnet> zodiaq: no time sorry, ask for someone else or search ubuntu forums
[08:15] <krazykit> but i'm glad the kernel docs point to a dead link @_@
[08:15] <magnet> krazykit: I have found what's needed for printing but not filesharing
[08:15] <Boll> atraeyu: adding the ServerName anywhere should work fine.
[08:15] <krazykit> magnet: really?  what is it?  it's at least a start :-/
[08:16] <Boll> atraeyu: If you need additional info about it, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#servername is quite sensible.
[08:16] <magnet> krazykit: the utils in the netatalk package; there's a daemon and utils; the pap utils prints ; see more here http://www.anders.com/projects/netatalk/utils.html
[08:16] <chaos_> are there any advanced sound configuration utilities for changing channels/eq settings?
[08:16] <chaos_> the built-in config doesn't seem to have much functionality
[08:16] <graft> anyone know how i can get that nice bootsplash screen active while ubuntu loads?
[08:16] <magnet> krazykit: and sharing directories now : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Share_Directories_via_AFP
[08:16] <slimemonkey123> what are the different, and preferable easy, ways to get codecs? (ex. easyubuntu...)
[08:17] <magnet> krazykit: so you've got it all :)
[08:17] <jrib> !codecs > slimemonkey123
[08:17] <zer0skill> slimemonkey123, first thing is first, make sure you install your Microsoft DRM.
[08:17] <nd0627> @everyone: how do you make FAT32 partition ??
[08:17] <atraeyu> Boll: adding "ServerName mydomain.com" to the apache2.conf file fixed it.  Thanks! :)
[08:17] <krazykit> magnet: again, that's making me a server, not a client.  i want to connect TO the server "-/
[08:17] <magnet> nd0627: man mkfs.vfat
[08:17] <nd0627> @everyone: how do you make FAT32 partitio
[08:17] <kitche> nd0627: it was anwsered already
[08:17] <magnet> krazykit: that's it
[08:17] <magnet> krazykit: you have a server *AND* client utils
[08:17] <Boll> atraeyu: you do realise that mydomain.com needs to be the actual hostname you want the server to respond to.
[08:18] <Boll> HTTP1.1 requires that, and it will break if you ever decide to use name based virtual hosting on that server.
[08:18] <nd0627> kitche: apologies ...
[08:18] <magnet> krazykit: have a look at the sharing directories link I put above too
[08:18] <chaos_> are there any advanced sound configuration utilities for changing channels/eq settings?
[08:18] <rkd> hey, i set my date with ntp which put it back an hour, and now sudo won't run as my timestamp is too far in the future; i can't change the date, reboot, anything like that. is there a solution, or do i just have to wait the hour out?
[08:19] <kitche> rkd: it will stay an hour ahead
[08:19] <atraeyu> Boll: I have the domain "atraeyu.org" registered with godaddy.  I have an @record that points to static IP (stored in a router).  I have the router portforwarding requests to my server behind that router.  Don't I just want "ServerName atraeyu.org" ?
[08:19] <kitche> rkd: man date you have to reconfigure date
[08:19] <graft> rkd, do sudo -K
[08:19] <krazykit> magnet: but i simply don't see anything that makes my linux box the client.  I'm not the server.
[08:19] <starscreamx> Thanks skype is working perfect now =]  but in flash player in firefox i dont hear any sound..
[08:19] <Boll> if by @record you mean an A record, then yes.
[08:19] <mrbrdo> !ati
[08:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:20] <atraeyu> yes, I mean an A record :)
[08:20] <sbk> I'm having a strange problem printing to an HP PSC1210. I did the add printer bit, selected the driver suggested for the HP PSC 1210; but when I try to printa  test page, the head moves back and forth but it prints a blank page. I know the printer itself works because I can use it as a copier without problems
[08:20] <rkd> kitche: i can't get sudo, i can't change the date
[08:20] <rkd> graft: it tells me my timestamp is too far in the future
[08:20] <graft> rkd, do sudo -K, it'll kill your timestamp, then you can get a new one
[08:20] <Boll> If you want the server to respond to www.atraeyu.org as well, you will need a ServerAlias in the configuration file as well.
[08:20] <Boll> If not, the ServerName will do fine.
[08:20] <magnet> krazykit: I'm not sure because I haven't tested it; but there are *client* programs like aecho, pap, etc which allow you to do everything (from the shell of course)
[08:20] <graft> oh. um, did you ever make a root password, rkd?
[08:21] <lupine_85> rkd: this is when a root password comes in handy :). Without that, you have two choices - change the time in the BIOS, or reboot into recovery mode
[08:21] <krazykit> magnet: doesn't seem to be a way to mount the share, is the issue :-/
[08:21] <rkd> no, it's a new install
[08:21] <graft> or just wait an hour
[08:21] <nd0627> magnet: my xp box is using ntfs, do i need to run mkfs.vfat ???
[08:21] <graft> this is dumb... sudo -K shouldn't require authentication
[08:21] <kitche> graft: then it will still be an hour in head
[08:21] <rkd> lupine_85: i can't reboot; i need to sudo to do that
[08:21] <graft> kitche: uh, no, the timestamp is in absolute time, so it'll run out eventually
[08:21] <lupine_85> big power button ;). Mind the potential data corruption, though
[08:21] <rkd> kitche: no, my system time will catch up with the sudo timestamp eventually
[08:22] <magnet> krazykit: to mount the share, check the other link :  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Share_Directories_via_AFP
[08:22] <rkd> lupine_85: exactly, data corruption
[08:22] <magnet> krazykit: to do printing, use the *UTILS* in the netatalk package (don't run the daemon)
[08:22] <magnet> krazykit: dpkg -L netatalk
[08:22] <kitche> rkd: you do know that date will keep moving forward right? as your system time does
[08:22] <graft> rkd, are you sure you can't sudo -K? you ought to be able to do it without authenticating
[08:22] <rkd> kitche: yes, I do, but the _sudo timestamp_ is fixed
[08:23] <chaos_> are there any advanced audio configuration utilities for onboard AC'97 audio... Speaker type select / equalizer etc. ?
[08:23] <krazykit> magnet: but i'm not looking for printing.  i'm looking to mount an appletalk share here.  the gentoo-wiki has nothing about using linux to mount that share.  it's only for being the server.
[08:23] <nd0627> @ everyone: my xp box is using ntfs, do i need to run mkfs.vfat ???
[08:23] <krazykit> nd0627: only if you want to wipe that partition.
[08:23] <chaos_> what are you trying to do nd0627?
[08:23] <kitche> nd0627: you should read what people post use fuse or ntfs-3g
[08:23] <magnet> krazykit: mhh, ok wait :)
[08:23] <racun> Hey I'm kinda of a newbie and I got some questions,  I was wondering if there may be someone who would like to help me briefly?
[08:24] <chaos_> !ask
[08:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:24] <rkd> graft: i'm certain i can't
[08:24] <Fraj> Hi iv got a problem iv just rebooted my system and when i type in the username and password a black screencomes up and then suddelny goes back into the login screen :S
[08:24] <graft> data corruption, what? no modern hard drive will care if it's shut down manually...
[08:24] <Fraj> graft is that for me?
[08:24] <graft> no, for rkd, i guess
[08:24] <rkd> graft: how modern? this is a '99, '98 drive
[08:25] <Fraj> ok
[08:25] <graft> oh.. um. yeah, maybe not that modern
[08:25] <nd0627> @ chaos_ im want to be able to read / write files that are on my xp box from my ubuntu box !
[08:25] <racun> So what does "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" mean?
[08:25] <magnet> krazykit: k, I've got your answer, one sec
[08:25] <boykuh> hoi
[08:25] <chaos_> mount -t ntfs /winbloze /wherever you want dat shiat
[08:25] <graft> racun: pretty much what it says... install gcc
[08:25] <Boll> racun: you don't have a c compiler installed?
[08:25] <ezech> hi
[08:25] <kitche> racun: you have to install build-esstenials
[08:26] <Fraj> Hi iv got a problem iv just rebooted my system and when i type in the username and password a black screencomes up and then suddelny goes back into the login screen :S
[08:26] <Fraj> ...
[08:26] <racun> Kitche: Could you guide me maybe?
[08:26] <chaos_> I'd make an fstab entry though
[08:26] <graft> kitche: can you adjust your date and time backwards?
[08:26] <boykuh> wie kan me helpen als ik me inlog krijg ik dat ik flash moet downloaden
[08:26] <graft> by hand?
[08:26] <chaos_> !ntfs > nd0627
[08:26] <rkd> graft: hmm, sudo -K works now
[08:26] <chaos_> !fstab > nd0627
[08:26] <kitche> graft: yeah by using date
[08:26] <boykuh> dat doe ik dan ook maar ik kan niet de letters lezen waar ik me moet in loggen zie wel de fotoo's en de werkbalken
[08:26] <graft> err, not kitche, rkd... sorry... but never mind anyway
[08:26] <Fraj> chaos_ do u have any idea why it does that?
[08:27] <eyequeue> !nl > boykuh
[08:27] <boykuh> ja
[08:27] <chaos_> you didn't type in your password
[08:27] <chaos_> correctly?
[08:27] <Fraj> i di
[08:27] <Fraj> did
[08:27] <kitche> racun: open up a sympantic and look for build-esstensials
[08:27] <Fraj> cos when i dont type it in
[08:28] <Fraj> it tells me wrong pass/username
[08:28] <chaos_> !ntfs > me
[08:28] <magnet> krazykit: that's it: http://www.anders.com/projects/netatalk/mirror/afpfs-1.0b2q2.tar.gz
[08:28] <graft> in the future, rkd, et al, the correct apparent solution is sudo -v
[08:28] <chaos_> !ntfs > chaos_
[08:28] <magnet> krazykit: it's an experimental afpfs mount driver
[08:28] <Fraj> when i type it in it just takes me to a black screen and then comes back to the login screen again
[08:28] <magnet> krazykit: build it and use mount -t afpfs etc..
[08:28] <graft> ah crud... time to catch a train
[08:28] <krazykit> magnet: haha, i saw that.  i think it stopped working around kernel 2.1 :-(
[08:28] <magnet> krazykit: mhh, well, port it to 2.6? :)
[08:29] <Fraj> anyone know why?
[08:29] <chaos_> "it tells me wrong pass/username" is pretty self-explanitory
[08:29] <krazykit> magnet: if i had those kind of codign skills, i'd have whipped up a FUSE module by now :-P... wait, maybe there IS a fuse module!
[08:29] <chaos_> you have the wrong password/username
[08:29] <magnet> krazykit: hehe yep
[08:29] <bc> hi
[08:29] <Fraj> but it doesnt say that...
[08:29] <Fraj> it logs in
[08:29] <Fraj> to a black screen
[08:29] <Fraj> then logs back out..
[08:29] <bc> i've trouble with squid
[08:30] <bc> anybody can help me
[08:30] <chaos_> Fraj, I'd just reinstall the os...
[08:30] <Fraj> :S
[08:30] <bc> how to setting firewall
[08:30] <kitche> Fraj: try this ctrl-alt-F1 see if that screen has any errors in it
[08:30] <princemackenzie> do you know why 6.06 won't let me use my NIC?
[08:30] <magnet> krazykit: i don't think so, but why don't you use NFS?
[08:30] <princemackenzie> i never can configure with DHCP
[08:30] <magnet> krazykit: there's no afp driver anymore because OSX supports NFS afaik
[08:30] <mrbrdo> fglrxinfo displays "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org" instead of ATI, but i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - can someone please help?
[08:30] <chaos_> you could try reinstalling X if nothing else helps
[08:30] <kismet_> i'm trying to install from CD, and I keep getting 'hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit' and 'Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 357296'
[08:31] <smoked1> What do you guys use to sync your PALM PDA?
[08:31] <gnizzub> quit
[08:31] <chaos_> windows
[08:31] <krazykit> magnet: because my universities servers are stupid.  they seem to be a combination netware/afp server.  and they won't give me the information i need to mount the netware server.
[08:31] <Boll> kismet_: sounds like you might have a broken drive.
[08:31] <bc> my port was block by firewall, how to setting the firewall
[08:31] <Paddy_EIRE> i have began "sudo apt-get install linux-k7" and am now waiting for it to finish..things that are worrying me are it says its also getting " nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-legacy" I have an ATI card which works correctly :(..will i have to configure again..what other probs should i be expecting
[08:31] <Boll> kismet_: or a broken CD
[08:31] <magnet> krazykit: huho :) complain to the admin :P
[08:31] <krazykit> magnet: i have been.
[08:32] <kismet_> Boll: hdc would be which device? how does the system order the drives?
[08:32] <bc> help me pls
[08:32] <Boll> kismet_: probably the cdrom
[08:32] <chaos_> kismet_, it could be anything on ide
[08:32] <chaos_> how many hard drives do you have?
[08:32] <Boll> kismet_: most computers come with the hard drive on the primary ide controller
[08:32] <kismet_> 1 floppy, 1 hard drive, 1 DVD-RW
[08:33] <chaos_> most likely DVD drive
[08:33] <mrbrdo> fglrxinfo displays "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org" instead of ATI, but i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI plz someone
[08:33] <kismet_> oh wow, it suddenly got past the error
[08:33] <Paddy_EIRE> will i have to configure my ATi card again if i install the K7 kernel
[08:33] <Paddy_EIRE> it downloaded nvidia drivers with it
[08:33] <chaos_> does firestarter work on ubuntu
[08:33] <chaos_> ?
[08:33] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[08:33] <chaos_> check it out bc
[08:34] <magnet> krazykit: well it seems there's no other answer here than getting the coding skills to make the FUSE module ;)
[08:34] <kismet_> wait, what's this - "hw_random: RNG not detected" ?
[08:34] <kitche> chaos_: firestarter is just an easy way to configure iptables
[08:34] <LookTJ> i deleted firefox
[08:34] <chaos_> Look, you want it back?
[08:34] <Boll> kismet_: probably that the installer detected that there is no random number generator on your motherboard
[08:34] <LookTJ> yea
[08:35] <Boll> I am not sure though.
[08:35] <kismet_> Boll: that sounds VERY reasonable
[08:35] <chaos_> system >administration > synaptic package manager
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: yes, but I prefer guarddog
[08:35] <diemonas_Lt> hello
[08:35] <chaos_> search for firefox
[08:36] <LookTJ> i deleted the folder of firefox by accident
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> apt-get install firefox
[08:36] <chaos_> just reinstall firefox
[08:36] <TheBigToe> guys, how do I get /dev/hda5 ( a fat32 partition) to mount a) now and b) on startup?
[08:36] <lupine_85> TheBigToe: add to /etc/fstab
[08:36] <chaos_> !fstab > TheBigToe
[08:36] <diemonas_Lt> Is here anyone who could answer some questions about hotplug subsystem of ubuntu v. 6.06lts ? :)
[08:37] <chaos_> !ask
[08:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:37] <Kraig> hmm...
[08:37] <TheBigToe> thanks :P
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> TheBigToe: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[08:37] <chaos_> TheBigToe, it will require some learning
[08:37] <chaos_> fstab can get tricky some times
[08:37] <kitche> TheBigToe: just follow what's in /etc/fstab and it's easy to learn
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> That script makes it quite easy
[08:37] <TheBigToe> okay
[08:37] <TheBigToe> :D
[08:38] <chaos_> Jack, I prefer manual fstab editing
[08:38] <skafiskafnjak> does anybody here use XaraXtreme?
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> So do I...  But I know that script works without hosing the system
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> TheBigToe: sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup            First to make a backup
[08:39] <ezech> I'd like to know if there is anybody here with experience in installing ubunt via network :)
[08:40] <chaos_> Jack, why make a backup?
[08:40] <bahr> Are there any recommendable torrent clients for ubuntu, which are likelly to utorrent in windows?
[08:40] <diemonas_Lt> where should be placed firmware of USB adsl modem ? (driver module cxacru) :) (sorry for my english :))
[08:40] <chaos_> bahr apt-cache search torrent
[08:40] <TheBigToe> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[08:40] <nickspoon> !lang
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lang - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: You should always make a backup before editing a system file
[08:40] <TheBigToe> so that adds it to /etc/fstab too?
[08:41] <bahr> chaos_: yeah, I tried this, but there are many choices, so maybe you knew a good one to recommend
[08:41] <ezech> I have iso image, working lan, one pc with linux (archlinux) and second with some hard drive space
[08:41] <nickspoon> diemonas_Lt: what's your native language? you might have better luck in your local channel.
[08:41] <chaos_> bittornado
[08:41] <diemonas_Lt> lithuania
[08:41] <diemonas_Lt> :)
[08:42] <magnet> bahr: i use btlaunchmany ncurses version from the 'official' bittorrent client
[08:42] <n1gke> Howdy folks.
[08:42] <magnet> YMMV :)
[08:42] <nickspoon> !li
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about li - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <nickspoon> bah/
[08:42] <chaos_> !de
[08:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:42] <chaos_> woot
[08:42] <bahr> ok thx
[08:42] <nickspoon> !lit
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <chaos_> bahr, the best way to find out is to try each one and test them yourself
[08:43] <chaos_> everyone has difference preference
[08:43] <magnet> !lt
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <yggdrasi1> hello guys im runing a ppc, with breezy on it, console only how do i upgrade to dapper?
[08:45] <LookTJ> im using mozilla web now
[08:45] <wais> lilo got owned
[08:46] <LookTJ> i deleted /opt/firefox which was the folder of firefox
[08:46] <lupine_85> yggdrasi1: first change alll instances of "breezy" to "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list ... then run sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:47] <SuperMiguel> how can i delete a folder inside /etc
[08:47] <Clinton__> How can I remove kubuntu-desktop and then tell apt-get to forget about all the "orphaned" packages?  Once I remove it, it wants me to autoremove everything.
[08:47] <burnhamd_> that last update to the nvidia driver from synaptic is making my games sluggish
[08:47] <yggdrasi1> lupine_85 thanks
[08:47] <lupine_85> SuperMiguel: use sudo
[08:47] <SuperMiguel> sudo what
[08:47] <lupine_85> yggdrasi1: np :)
[08:47] <SuperMiguel> sudo and then?
[08:47] <bc> does any one know about squid configuration
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yggdrasi1: You might want to do a full backup first.. the distro upgrades sometimes have problems
[08:47] <ph8> SuperMiguel: man rm
[08:47] <lupine_85> sudo the file editing command
[08:47] <bc> pls help me
[08:47] <kitche> SuperMiguel: what folder is it though?
[08:47] <lupine_85> or deletion, rather
[08:48] <Clinton__> SuperMiguel: sudo rm -rf folder-name    (but only do it if you ABSOLUTELY know what you are doing!)
[08:48] <lupine_85> apt-get remove --purge <package-that-put-the-dir-there> is usually better
[08:48] <eternalswd> anyone know why libfaac-dev is no longer in the repositories?
[08:49] <Yngve1981> Hello!
[08:50] <zer0skill> I think everything should install YUM
[08:50] <zer0skill> and learn how to use it
[08:50] <Yngve1981> I really need som help!I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop and since I'm new to the os I'm having problems resolving som problems!I can't seem to get my wireless network connection to work!WHAT TO DO?
[08:50] <rancorus> hello, I have a usbdisk that i always used in windows but now i cannot write or remove anything on it, is there anything i can do ?
[08:50] <lupine_85> YUM--
[08:50] <lupine_85> PoS
[08:50] <Paddy_EIRE> !bazaar
[08:50] <ubotu> bazaar: arch-based distributed revision control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 335 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: Probably ntfs format
[08:51] <ezech> Yngve1981: buy yourself linux-aware wireless pcimcia card
[08:51] <zer0skill> lupine_85== dipshit
[08:51] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: Is there anyway to change that
[08:51] <azureal> hi, i managed to make xine hang... i cannot kill this process
[08:51] <chaos_> ran, mount it
[08:51] <cwc> hi all... i have a logical drive /dev/hda5... how do i mount it (and make it mount automatically on boot up)
[08:51] <zer0skill> rancorus, how big is the USB Drive?
[08:51] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: 64 Mb
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Yngve1981: try ndiswrapper
 did u try xkill
[08:51] <chaos_> it's probably fat32
[08:52] <ezech> azureal: killall -9 xine-process
[08:52] <Hazard> Does the LiveCD include sshd? If so, how does one start it?
[08:52] <Yngve1981> Jack Sparrow: What's that?
[08:52] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, no, what does xkill do?  i tried kill, kill -9, killalll
[08:52] <simmerz> I'm trying to use autofs to mount an nfs mount, and it is saying "failed to start mountpoint /path/to/mountpoint"
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: What error do you get..
[08:52] <chaos_> Hazard check your inetd.conf
[08:52] <lupine_85> Hazard: no, and apt-get install openssh-server
[08:52] <azureal> oh, it died by itself just now...
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !ndiswrapper > Yngve1981
[08:52] <lupine_85> (asuming there's room on the ramdisc)
yikes just press alt+f2 then type xkill then click the app u want stopped
[08:52] <azureal> i had to wait 5 minutes for it to die =/
[08:52] <Hazard> chaos_: Can you be slightly more specific?
[08:53] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: well i cannot write or delete anything, it says i do not have permission to do it
[08:53] <zer0skill> rancorus, I would make sure the USB Drive is FAT32, so it be be read/write/exe on both ubuntu and windows.
[08:53] <eternalswd> for that matter libfaac0 is no longer available from the repos either, even though it's listed at packages.ubuntu.com
 you can also add xkills' icon to your panel for handiness
[08:53] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: But you can read it with no problems correct?
[08:53] <chaos_> you need ssh installed first, then look for the ssh entry in inetd.conf and uncomment it
[08:53] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, i set it up so that alt+f2 does something else for me
[08:53] <ezech> nobody here tried via-network install of ubuntu?
[08:53] <filosofo_de_bar> hi guys, does anyone here know how to upmix stereo to 5.1 in a cao106 (soundblaster) card?
[08:53] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[08:54] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, but i think xine's death is more buggy than mplayer's
[08:54] <Hazard> chaos_: So the LiveCD doesn't include it?
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: Easiest solution is to format it to fat
[08:54] <SatanGolga> uhm, i installed vmware-server, then i happened to try install vmware-workstation and vmware-server stopped working, then i tried to dpkg --purge it and it said it wasnt installed co i tried to reinstall it but then it says its already installed, how can i remove or install it again?
[08:54] <filosofo_de_bar> i know i need to edit the .asoundrc, but i can't find the correct configuration
[08:54] <chaos_> I don't know
[08:54] <ezech> I know there is some info in docs about that, but I know from experience that not-so-popular way of installing linux distro can go wild in some parts
[08:54] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: is there any simple way of doing that ?
 yes gxine is always givin me trouble when streaming video of gamespot :(
[08:54] <ezech> I'd be happy to know more from somebodys live experience
 you can add the run application launcher to ur panel then type xkill in there
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: Save everything n there to another location... run gparted and tell us what it shows you.
[08:55] <kitche> ezech: what do you mean by network install (NFS, net install)?
[08:55] <magnet> ezech: what do you call net-install?
[08:55] <magnet> lol :)
[08:55] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, no, xkill is pretty fun lol
[08:55] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, you can just type "xkill"
 i dont know what i would do without it
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: Are you in windows or linux atm
[08:55] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, then point to a window you want to kill
[08:55] <chaos_> Hazard look in the package manager for ssh
[08:55] <cwc> hi all... i need some help mounting my logical drive
[08:55] <chaos_> it will tell you if it's installed
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[08:55] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: linux
[08:55] <ezech> magnet: I have iso image on one linux-box and want to install it into second pc (connected to first via lan)
[08:55] <filosofo_de_bar> guys? can anyone help here?
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: k.. run gparted...
[08:56] <ezech> so it seems like net install
[08:56] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: i don't have any computer with windows near me
[08:56] <magnet> ezech: ok, you have to setup a PXE server on the first box
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[08:56] <lupine_85> chaos_: no you don't :). it runs by default
[08:56] <Hazard> Ok. Perhaps I gave the impression that I knew anything about Ubuntu. I don't.
[08:56] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: i have to install it first
[08:56] <chaos_> if it's in inetd.conf properly
[08:56] <magnet> ezech: and the pc you want to install ubuntu on must support netboot
[08:56] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i launch clamav to scan and look at settings and the like
[08:57] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: clamscan
[08:57] <ezech> magnet: net boot is that thingy which allows booting from nic ?
[08:57] <Paddy_EIRE> and make sure its up to date
[08:57] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[08:57] <magnet> ezech: from nic?
[08:57] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, what irc client are you using?
[08:57] <Arrick> hey guys, I am trying to mount /dev/hda1 with breezy live CD, and I cant seem to do it, cn someon help me out?
[08:57] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: i get three lines
[08:57] <SlyGuy> folks
 xchat-gnome
[08:57] <ezech> magnet: network card
[08:57] <magnet> ezech: yep then
[08:57] <ezech> magnet: then I need other way :)
[08:58] <SlyGuy> quick question.. whats the app to test 3d performance?
 what u using
[08:58] <eternalswd> hmmm, guess I didn't have multiverse, that would explain my problems
[08:58] <ezech> I can't burn this iso (no cd writer available)
[08:58] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: i/dev/sdb1 is formatted fat16
[08:58] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, xchat
[08:58] <magnet> ezech: yep :)
[08:58] <Hazard> Ok. I'm rather stunned that a Linux distro could come without SSH.
[08:58] <Arrick> DBO, you around today?
[08:58] <kitche> ezech: you will have to extract all the files from the iso
 apparently BitchX is good
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: how did you mount it..?
[08:58] <Hazard> Thanks for your help anyway, but I don't think I'll stick with it to find out what other odd things have been done to it.
[08:58] <chaos_> Hazard, I installed the server Debian distro and it didn't have ssh
[08:58] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone here use BitchX and why
[08:59] <Arrick> its tiny chaos_
[08:59] <ezech> I can boot this target-box with some (other) linux distro I have
[08:59] <Hazard> chaos_: I think I'll just stick with my Gentoo.
[08:59] <SlyGuy> anyone?
[08:59] <azureal> i tried bitchx a long time ago, but i was new to linux and did not like it so much
[08:59] <eFoX> hey
[08:59] <chaos_> the debian server minimal install is fast
[08:59] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: most users don't like it but it's more of a IRC war client then anything else
[08:59] <rancorus> i just plugged it in
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[08:59] <Arrick> hey guys, I am trying to mount /dev/hda1 with breezy live CD, and I cant seem to do it, cn someon help me out?
[08:59] <chaos_> I use it for my samba server
[08:59] <fdoving> Hazard: it comes with the ssh client. if you choose to install the destkop version. if you install the server edition you'll get ssh. and you can easily download and install the ssh-daemon from the repositories.
[08:59] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: did you install the k7 kernel???
[09:00] <eyequeue> bx is nasty, but irssi is cool
[09:00] <corevette> does edgy eft beta 3 have improvements on networking?
[09:00] <ezech> I have trinity rescue kit live cd
[09:00] <Hazard> fdoving: I tried the apt-get install command, but it had a siezure.
[09:00] <eyequeue> corevette, #ubuntu+1
yep its running right now :) no probs so far
[09:00] <fdoving> Hazard: use synaptics
[09:00] <eFoX> QUESTION: is there a way to have 2 wifi cards on the same computer, and be able to switch between the 2 ?
[09:00] <fdoving> Hazard: use synaptic
[09:00] <corevette> eyequeue: what do you mean?
[09:00] <eyequeue> corevette, /join #ubuntu+1 for that
[09:00] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: good to know then
[09:00] <Hazard> fdoving: I think I'll just go back to something that makes sense, and skip these crazy package managers.
[09:00] <eyequeue> !edgy > corevette
[09:00] <Yngve1981> Could someone please help me get my wireless internetconnection working!I've been reading up, but don't seem to get it working!
will i not notice the change until i start installing apps with this kernel
[09:00] <Hazard> fdoving: Thanks anyway.
[09:01] <Hazard> Have a good day, all.
[09:01] <azureal> jeez.. these CDs are buggy..i just lost 700mb of data..
[09:01] <azureal> great, mplayer froze now
[09:01] <azureal> *xkills*
[09:01] <nickspoon> Yngve1981: how far have you got with it?
[09:01] <Yngve1981> B
 nothing worse than buying pack of ten cds only for 2 to work :(
[09:01] <eFoX> ya my wireless is iffy too. Im at another house now that has a different essid and key, and i cant connect anymore
[09:01] <eFoX> any thoughts ?
[09:01] <chaos__> irssi is cool
[09:02] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: I think there shouldn't be a drastic change in speed... From what I know, the more CPU intessive tasks as compiling and such should be faster now
[09:02] <Yngve1981> Nickspoon: Haven't gotten anywhere!
[09:02] <SlyGuy> what that app to test if 3d acceleration is working?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: DO you have more than one user setup on your system
[09:02] <SlyGuy> little command line thing
[09:02] <ezech> Yngve1981: you need one of the two: 1) linux aware pcmcia wireless network card (buy it), 2) ndiswraper (lot's of reading, maybe it'll work)
[09:02] <rancorus> no
[09:02] <chaos__> What command do I type to bring up auto-connect and auto-join options in irssi?
[09:02] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, 50 CDs, 0 for 2
 nice one, im planning on learning the compiling stuff at some point
[09:02] <rancorus> Jack_Sparrow: no
[09:02] <tokenbad> in ubuntu whats the best way to format and partition a drive from vfat to ext3?
[09:03] <SatanGolga> nickspoon: how do i remove vmware?
[09:03] <chaos__> exit
any test software i can download and do a simple compile just to see how the whole process goes
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> rancorus: right click the icon on the desktop left click properties left click the tab for permissions what do you show
[09:03] <lupine_85> tokenbad: unmount it, then mkfs.ext3 <devicefile>
[09:03] <eyequeue> chaos_, ^s
[09:03] <ezech> tokenbad: there is only one way to format partition, mke2fs
[09:03] <ezech> in quite every distro :)
 i have the build-essential stuff installed...i think
[09:03] <slimemonkey> what cd burner is recommended for linux??
[09:03] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: if you use ubuntu I would suggest to stick to the software in the repos through apt-get
[09:03] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, oh no... after an mplayer xkill i cannot umount cdrom
[09:03] <ezech> slimemonkey: working one
[09:03] <tokenbad> lupine_85, so umount it then do mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd1?
[09:03] <slimemonkey> ezech: thank you
[09:04] <ClayG> anyone know what to change to make getmail leave the messages on the server?
[09:04] <slimemonkey> ezech: any names??
[09:04] <eternalswd> how do I add something like a vga setting to be added automatically to grub when installing a new kernel?
[09:04] <kitche> slimemonkey: do you mean software or the actual burner?
[09:04] <ezech> you're welcome
[09:04] <lupine_85> tokenbad: that'd do it as sudo
[09:04] <slimemonkey> kitche: software
[09:04] <ezech> slimemonkey: every working cd writer will do
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jtibau: Paddy has a death wish for his system  :)
[09:04] <kitche> ezech: wrong thing
[09:04] <slimemonkey> ezech: being new to linux...some names would really help :P
, it's not working
[09:04] <jtibau> Paddy_EIRE: test software??? you can try downloading source code for something like gaim 2.0 beta
[09:04] <SatanGolga> lupine_85:  how do i remove vmware? :)
[09:04] <eyequeue> chaos_, ^s doesn't work?
[09:04] <chaos_> nah
[09:04] <ezech> slimemonkey: go to shop and ask for "cd writers"
[09:04] <chaos_> doesn't do anything
[09:04] <Arrick> hey, can someone give me an example fro /etc/fstab that will mount /dev/hda1 as a fat32, in the /home/Hello directory?
[09:04] <lupine_85> SatanGolga: no idea
[09:04] <kitche> slimemonkey: k3b, graveman
 ah...you didnt kill anything else did you
[09:04] <slimemonkey> kitche: thank you
[09:04] <eyequeue> chaos_, you are in xchat?  or xchat-gnome?
[09:05] <kitche> ezech: you do know your talking to him about something totally different right
[09:05] <slimemonkey> ezech: i meant software, sorry if i didnt make myself clear
[09:05] <chaos_> irssi
[09:05] <SatanGolga> ok, does anyone know how to remove vmware?
[09:05] <eyequeue> chaos_, that ises text files to config
[09:05] <eyequeue> chaos_, that uses
[09:05] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, no, this is the worst type of process i have encountered
[09:05] <chaos_> where is it?
[09:05] <eyequeue> chaos_, cd ~/.irssi/
[09:05] <chaos_> thansk
[09:05] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, it still shows up in ps..
[09:05] <ezech> slimemonkey: then if you're using kde use k3b, xcdroast is quite univerasl too
[09:05] <kitche> SatanGolga: you can use the uninstall script for it
[09:05] <Arrick> man this used to e a good channel for help, where di al the guys with knowledge go in the last year?
 thats weird??
[09:05] <lupine_85> Arrick: /dev/hda1 /home/Hello vfat defaults,uid=<your-user-id(1000?)> 0 0
[09:05] <Arrick> later
[09:06] <slimemonkey> ezech: i am using gnome...so ill go for xcdroast?
[09:06] <azureal> IT WON'T DIE
[09:06] <Arrick> lupine_85, thanks
[09:06] <lupine_85> the uuid (or guid if you prefer) option makes it writable by said user/group (default is root)
[09:06] <tokenbad> lupine_85, and that will format and make the drive ext3?
 you having a lot of probs with this install
[09:06] <SatanGolga> kitche: how does it say?
[09:06] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, nope
[09:06] <lupine_85> tokenbad: sort of
[09:06] <trograin> I am getting this mysqladim error when i try to set my FIRST root password for it by using: mysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword.     mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[09:06] <trograin> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[09:06] <lupine_85> it'll be ext3, but a "format", as such, is unknown in linux
[09:06] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, i told you, buggy cd
[09:06] <trograin> cananyone help?
[09:06] <tokenbad> lupine_85, sort of?
[09:06] <Arrick> lupine_85, normally I would have gotten a hang on from someone, sorry
[09:06] <eyequeue> trograin, -p
[09:06] <lupine_85> (although all the files will be "lost", they're pretty trivial to recover)
[09:06] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, Gnomebaker failed on this media
[09:06] <slimemonkey> ezech: thanks
[09:07] <kitche> trograin: mysql uses it's own root password
[09:07] <trograin> no -p will not help either,
[09:07] <lupine_85> if you want the files to be gone permanently, use wipe
 u did do a test of the cd before you installed..right ?
[09:07] <trograin> yess and I want to put a NEW root password for it
[09:07] <eyequeue> kitche, he is missing the -p
[09:07] <tokenbad> well not worried about getting back...I have backups of what I want
[09:07] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, sry? installed what?
 the os
[09:07] <atraeyu> If I have an A record that maps my domain to my ip, can I setup a mail server on my domain and will it work?
[09:07] <tuxub> no
[09:07] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, lol what does installing the os have to do with this
[09:07] <tuxub> atraeyu, you still need an mx record
[09:07] <eyequeue> atraeyu, MX record perhaps
[09:08] <atraeyu> If I setup an MX record that points to my IP address, will that work?
[09:08] <tokenbad> ok going to remount the drive so what do I put in fstab to mount it as ext3?
[09:08] <diemonas_Lt> where does the "hotplug subsystem" searches for firmware files ? ubuntu v6.06lts
[09:08] <rkd> no, you only need an mx if it's a different mailserver
 you installed ubuntu from one of these buggy cds did u not
[09:08] <trograin> so how would the Correct commandline for a FRESH mysql installation be when adding the FIRST root password after you installed mysql?
[09:08] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, wrong
 oh
my mistake
[09:08] <tuxub> rkd, the RFC says you sould use the MX record
[09:08] <atraeyu> rkd: Does that mean it should work with the A record?
[09:08] <lupine_85> atraeyu: MX records use domain names
[09:08] <rkd> atraeyu: afaik, just an a record to your ip will be sufficient
[09:08] <tuxub> but if the machine is the same it * should * work
[09:08] <SuperMiguel> what is rss
[09:08] <lupine_85> RFC! :)
[09:09] <rkd> tuxub: but it falls back to the A if there's no MX
[09:09] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, i have a new pack of 50 cds...so far 2 buggy burnings have been produced, that have crashed both xine and mplayer
[09:09] <kitche> trograin: mysqladmin -u root password newpassword
[09:09] <atraeyu> rkd: that's what I was hoping,  Any suggestion for what mail server I should install?
[09:09] <Arrick> how do I find my UID for ubuntu livecd?
[09:09] <lupine_85> use either your domain name, or your rdns name if you don't have a specific domain name
[09:09] <eyequeue> really stupid syndication
[09:09] <tuxub> rkd, you are correct. most of the times
[09:09] <rkd> tuxub: what're the other times?
[09:09] <azureal> viper    16619  0.7  2.1  43980 22304 ?        DL   15:00   0:03 gmplayer
 have you tried different discs such as a dvd or somethin along those lines...another idea would be if you have an extra cd drive boot the live cd and try and burn something from there to see if it works
[09:10] <eyequeue> Arrick, grep ubuntu /etc/passwd
[09:10] <azureal> i'm loving the ?
[09:10] <tuxub> the MTA can sometimes have problems if you dont have the correct dns settings
[09:10] <rkd> atraeyu: i'm partial to postfix, but any of the big four (sendmail, qmail, exim4, postfix) will be fine
[09:10] <trograin> When I installed the server version of dapper I choose to not be able to login as root directly but as user first and then sudo su in myself to root. does this have anythign to do with my problem of setting new password for mysql?????
[09:10] <rkd> atraeyu: if you need pop/imap, use dovecot
[09:10] <chaos_> how do I make my mounts appear in Computer and Desktop? I have an ntfs mount that wont show up even with the option enabeld
[09:10] <eyequeue> !root > trograin
[09:10] <chaos_> enabled*
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> !root
[09:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:11] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, it's the media, i'm sure of it...
[09:11] <nd0627> @ everyone: i was able to see shared folder by $smbclient //sharedfolder/shareddocs ... but the question is .. are there any other ways to conveniently browse it ?? thanks.
[09:11] <rkd> trograin: no, probably unrelated
[09:11] <azureal> is there anything worse than kill -9?
[09:11] <azureal> i want to really destroy this process
[09:11] <SatanGolga> god how annoying, i cant remove vmware, nor install it -_-
[09:11] <chaos_> nd, mount it
[09:11] <dmd> I've managed to totally screw up the fonts under GNOME and GTK apps (like Nautilus and Firefox) and I can hardly read anything. Is there a quick way to restore the original gnome fonts? If not, what is the standard font name and size?
[09:11] <eyequeue> azureal, power cord
[09:11] <atraeyu> I've never used IMAP, only pop/smtp ... is there a reason I would choose IMAP or SMTP?
 it seems like an awful waste...i mean the entire pack cant be like that???....what brand of cd are they type
[09:11] <azureal> lol
[09:11] <jtibau> nd0627:  you can use nautilus to browse through samba shares
[09:11] <lupine_85> IMAP is not a replacement for SMTP, IIRC
[09:12] <rkd> azureal: the only time kill -9 fails, ime, is when there's a disk failure
[09:12] <eyequeue> atraeyu, imap and smtp are not the same category
[09:12] <tuxub> anyways, im only saying you should go "by the book" if you can go that way
[09:12] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, imation...
[09:12] <lupine_85> but IMAP(s) r0x0rz
[09:12] <eyequeue> atraeyu, imap and pop3 are
[09:12] <azureal> rkd i know, it's a disc failure
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: HOw do you have it in your fstab  ?
[09:12] <ketsugi|IMF> IMAP for teh win
[09:12] <chaos_> I'll paste it in a sec
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:12] <slimemonkey> ...is there a cd-writing program that is a little easier to understand and configure than xcdroast for gnome??
[09:12] <chaos_> what is the default shortcut for terminal?
 they really should be fine, do u have another comp u could use for a little while to try and burn on that
[09:12] <tuxub> SlicerDicer, kb
[09:12] <tuxub> k3b
[09:12] <rkd> azureal: then the process is in kernel mode or something; i'm not sure of the specifiocs, but basically killing it is a Bad Thing.
[09:12] <jtibau> slimemonkey: gnomebaker
[09:12] <eyequeue> chaos_, what is shortcut?
[09:13] <chaos_> keyboard shortcut
[09:13] <slimemonkey> jtibau: thx
[09:13] <rkd> s/specifiocs/specifics/
[09:13] <dmd> what is the standard gnome font called?
[09:13] <jtibau> slimemonkey np
[09:13] <eyequeue> chaos_, not sure ehat that means, sorry
[09:13] <atraeyu> This isn't a production server or anything, just a home server that I'm playing with, trying to learn.  Would you suggest installing dovecot then?  (do I need to install an SMTP server in addition to dovecot?)
[09:13] <chaos_> ctrl + alt + something for example
[09:13] <rkd> atraeyu: yes, you need an smtp server in addition
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> my comps going crazy with a buzzing sound at the mo what the hell is going on
[09:13] <eyequeue> chaos_, system ? preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[09:14] <rkd> atraeyu: dovecot is the thing that lets you collect your mail from other computers
[09:14] <eyequeue> chaos_, system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[09:14] <chaos_> Paddy, cd in the drive?
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[09:14] <azureal> Paddy_EIRE, no, this problem is a bit annoying because i cant eject the cd
[09:14] <chaos_> hard drive noise or cpu?
[09:14] <Yngve1981> Jack_Sparrow: Could you please help me out with my wireless problem?
[09:14] <atraeyu> rkd: gotcha, so imap replaces pop ...
 i cant tell
[09:14] <chaos_> open your computer
[09:14] <rkd> atraeyu: imap's better than pop because it lets you keep the e-mail on multiple computers
[09:14] <chaos_> how loud is it?
[09:14] <atraeyu> excellent
 jeeze it sounds bad
[09:14] <atraeyu> rkd: that's awesome, i'm going to try that out
[09:15] <chaos_> is your case vibrating?
[09:15] <dmd> could anyone with a relatively fresh ubuntu install please tell me what the standard font is called
[09:15] <azureal> lol, i just ripped the cd-rw/dvd-rom drive out
[09:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Yngve1981: Other than having you go through the ndiswrapper I dont use wireless myself
[09:15] <azureal> and mplayer deid
[09:15] <azureal> died*
[09:15] <chaos_> Jack_Sparrow, //192.168.0.111/share /mnt/Media smbfs rw,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000,credentials=/home/chaos/.smbpasswd 0 0
[09:15] <lupine_85> nobody's come up with a credible replacement for smtp yet
[09:15] <[lt] BCC32> hello
[09:16] <chaos_> it's actually linux to linux through smb
[09:16] <slimemonkey> i love how easy it is to install and uninstall things in linux with the help of package managers
 it stopped im now getting a screeching then a buzz
[09:16] <Yngve1981> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks anyway then!:)
[09:16] <slimemonkey> ex: aptitude
[09:16] <chaos_> probably your hard drive dying
[09:16] <rkd> atraeyu: good luck!
[09:16] <bunny> can someone help me with getting wireless internet on ubuntu?
[09:16] <chaos_> back up your data onto a cd
 everything software and os wise is working fine
[09:16] <lupine_85> !wifi
[09:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:16] <alxspb> chaos_:  FAqs ,,
[09:16] <Yngve1981> Bunny: I'm in the same situation
[09:16] <nd0627> @ everyone: how do you mount a hard disk that's on an a windows xp box ?
 im really starting to panic
[09:17] <azureal> going to try burning at a slower speed (these cds appear to suck)
[09:17] <alxspb> is anybody there from Russia ? )
[09:17] <[lt] BCC32> where does the hotplug subsystem is looking for firmware files ? :)
[09:17] <chaos_> Paddy, back up your data and dodge the bits of flying hard disk
[09:18] <nd0627>  @ everyone: how do you mount a hard disk that's on an a windows xp box ?
[09:18] <jbroome> !windows
[09:18] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:18] <chaos_> mount -t ntfs
[09:18] <jbroome> err, nm
[09:18] <rkd> nd0627: what version of windows?
[09:18] <chaos_> !fstab > nd0627
[09:18] <azureal> lol ...this sucks
 you serious, that'll be the second in only a few months
[09:18] <nd0627> xp
[09:18] <azureal> thx for your help, Paddy_EIRE
 the last one just doesnt work
[09:18] <tbcheese> Hi there. i recently installed ubuntu 6.06 and i couldn't get anything connected to the internet. i could ping and traceroute fine but nothing else works. Then I found out that I had to disable IPv6 to get firefox up. But other applications still cant connect. Not even apt-get. Its my first time using linux by the way. Oh and I'm using an ethernet connection to my router with dchp on
[09:18] <rkd> mount -t ntfs, probably
[09:18] <azureal> i have to restart
[09:18] <dmd> All I ask is for one person, running gnome with nice readable fonts, click on System -> Preferences -> Font and tell me what it says please!
[09:19] <chaos_> what brand of hard drive do you keep breaking?
 no probs :)
 maxtor
[09:19] <hd420> will the debian mythtv packages work in ubuntu?
[09:19] <alxspb> mount -t ntfs /dev/<your partition> <destination path or mount point>
[09:19] <Jack_Sparrow> dmd:  sans,sans,sans,sans bold, mono
[09:19] <hd420> from http://www.debian-multimedia.org
[09:19] <kitche> tbcheese: check your /etc/resolv.conf it probably doesn't have any nameservers in it
[09:20] <[lt] BCC32> i have some question about the hotplug system
 is there any possibility that it might not be the hdd this time, the last hdd was probably old
[09:20] <chaos_> maxtor makes good drives, open your case and get familiar with your computer parts
[09:20] <dmd> Jack-sparrow- Thanks!!
[09:20] <chaos_> see what's making the noise
[09:20] <chaos_> Jack, did that fstab entry hep?
[09:20] <Sn4pS> hello everyone being new to linux I would love to know how to change the desktop to make look and feel like a mac os x [I saw some screenshots and looks amazing] 
[09:20] <chaos_> help*
 im a qualified A+ tech, but i aint heard this before
[09:20] <jman8888> Am i the only one who cant play theora videos(oog)
[09:20] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: fstab for my ntfs ...  /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[09:21] <senori> Sn4pS: Google Baghira
 i know the comp inside out
[09:21] <SuperMiguel> :A
[09:21] <SuperMiguel> llol
[09:21] <chaos_> Sn4pS, you WANT it to look like mac?
[09:21] <chaos_> ... why?
[09:21] <Sn4pS> yes chaos_ :D
[09:21] <Jack_Sparrow> np dmd
[09:21] <eyequeue> lol
[09:21] <Sn4pS> just love the bubbly thingy
[09:21] <chaos_> oh god
[09:21] <C0RVUS> bonjour
[09:22] <chaos_> kde is more mac-like than gnome... but I lovez my gnome
what should i start spending money on now....man im out of a fortune. linksys on the way new grfx card ...the board is basically brand new
[09:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[09:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:22] <TEN> Guess I found out why foomatic-rip called from CUPS crashes (i.e. a reason why Ubuntu won't print), but admittedly fixing this well calls for "some shinier pe(a)rls than me" ;-) https://launchpad.net/bugs/60931 - any ideas/feedback?
[09:22] <eFoX> if you can use iwlist does that mean that the wireless card works ?
[09:22] <C0RVUS> quel bon logiciel de lecture de vido avez vous a me proposer ? :)
[09:22] <tokenbad> ok going to remount the drive so what do I put in fstab to mount it as ext3?  and how do i make it so everyone can read and write to the drive?
[09:22] <chaos_> Paddy, what is making the noise?
[09:22] <eyequeue> some prefer glitz over function apparently, chaos_
im unable to determine that
[09:22] <eyequeue> !dr > C0RVUS
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <kitche> !nl>C0RVUS
[09:22] <eyequeue> !fr > C0RVUS
[09:22] <chaos_> I like how apple machines run other OS's faster than they run OS X
[09:22] <chaos_> :)
[09:22] <wwallace> hello
[09:23] <wwallace> how do i mount my /dev/hda1 running kubuntu klive cd?
[09:23] <chaos_> Paddy, stick your head in your case and prod some fans
[09:23] <eFoX> so is that true ? if i can use iwlist that means my wifi card is ok
[09:23] <chaos_> dont prod with your head
[09:23] <eyequeue> wwallace, #kubuntu ?
[09:23] <ikonia> wwallace: same as you do in any other diso
 my comp is in an awkward place to actually hear anything...and even when i take the side panel off i still cant tell where the noise is coming from
[09:23] <ikonia> using "mount"
[09:23] <Yngve1981> Someone who could help with a wireless hell?I can't get it working!
[09:23] <chaos_> stop your cpu fan momentarily to see if it stops
 while they are on
[09:24] <chaos_> MOMENTARILY
[09:24] <tokenbad> anyone?
[09:24] <wwallace> in other distros is already mounted
 if i touch the processor fan it will stop
[09:24] <kitche> Yngve1981: what's your wireless card chipset
[09:24] <joeljkp> is there a home a/v chan anywhere?
[09:24] <chaos_> Paddy, what?
[09:24] <eyequeue> wwallace, try #kubuntu yet?
[09:24] <Yngve1981> Kitche: broadcom bcm4318
[09:24] <wwallace> im there
[09:24] <eyequeue> wwallace, ubuntu is the gnome version
[09:25] <kitche> Yngve1981: ok so what is wrong exactly
[09:25] <atraeyu> Anyone have any experience configuring dovecot and postfix?
 you want me to touch the fans when they are on?
[09:25] <wwallace> ok anyway
[09:25] <wwallace> no difffference
[09:25] <wwallace> how do i mounted
 will that not cause damage
[09:25] <eyequeue> wwallace, i'm sure "man mount" is common to both
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Use a long screwdriver... put one end to your ear and touch non-electrical parts inside the box
[09:25] <chaos_> Paddy, you can't hear where the sound is coming from?
[09:25] <eyequeue> wwallace, but we don't know kde tools here
[09:25] <Yngve1981> kitche:Don't know, but I can't online wireless!
[09:25] <omar> hello, do you know how to get different icons for different workspaces?
[09:25] <eFoX> this might sound trivial, but if i can use iwlist does that mean that my card is good to go (minus key and essid) ?
k
[09:25] <eFoX> because i can use iwlist but i just cant connect to my network
 no
[09:25] <Yngve1981> kitche: get that is
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Buddy...I want you to lick the fans while they are spinning...
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[09:26] <kitche> Yngve1981: ok so does your wireless use any type of encryption
[09:26] <chaos_> sorry jack, i already told him not to do that
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> i dont want to loose this comp
[09:26] <JJF> Hi there
[09:26] <mille_> lo my darlings
[09:26] <Yngve1981> Kitche: Well, when I was using xp I only typed in the wepkey and was online!I'm really new to ubuntu
[09:26] <mille_> xD
[09:27] <JJF> first time on this channel... just getting to know ubuntu.. especially Edubuntu
 so i need to put the tower in a more accessible place first then i will do the screw driver thing
[09:27] <omar> hello, do you know how to get different icons for different workspaces?
[09:27] <JJF> anyone available to talk about Edubuntu?
[09:27] <tokenbad> hmm....ok I can write to my slave drive...any one have an idea why...I mounted in fstab like this...: /dev/hdd1   /media/windows   ext3       defaults         0      0
 with every thing switched on
[09:27] <chaos_> I'm not sure about that screwdriver thing.... it seems like some sort of suicide attempt
[09:27] <kitche> Yngve1981: ah ok you probably don't have your wep key in ubuntu go to System>Networking
[09:27] <TheBigToe> and Meglo too D:
[09:27] <mille_> i think i'll need to hite all the joins/parts/quits, omg
[09:27] <TheBigToe> stupid tab :(
[09:27] <Meglo> What
[09:27] <nickspoon> Yngve1981: is your card actually recognised, btw?
[09:27] <TheBigToe> dunno
[09:27] <TheBigToe> D:
[09:27] <eyequeue> mille_, over 900 in here
[09:27] <chaos_> I sure dont want to stick a screwdriver in my ear then touch a fan with it... that seems kinda stupid
[09:28] <guerby> (off-topic) any pirateparty (sweden) member here?
 is there no software utility i can use that maybe will give me some info
[09:28] <tarzeau> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: You can also do it on a running car engine to locate noises..
[09:28] <Yngve1981> kitche: yupp, I'm there
[09:28] <Wermut> How can I disable cpu frequencz scaling? I tried "killall powernowd" but it does not work.
[09:28] <mille_> yeah, to much for having the quits and everything in the chan
[09:28] <mille_> anyone know how to hide the events in irssi?
[09:28] <chaos_> nothing like getting your head ripped off by a fan belt
[09:28] <theBishop> is anyone good at debugging Wine issues?
[09:28] <kitche> Yngve1981: does that see your wireless card by chance?
[09:28] <Meglo> Woah
[09:28] <Meglo> what was that.
[09:28] <eyequeue> mille_, /help shold remind the command
[09:28] <green> a router vulnerability
[09:28] <nalioth> Meglo: please join #ubuntu-ops
[09:29] <Yngve1981> Kitche: It just says wireless connetction eth1 is not active
[09:29] <chaos_> Linux had one weakness, dead hardware
[09:29] <JJF> anyone wanna talk about Edubuntu?
[09:29] <kitche> Yngve1981: ok so it sees it click on that card then go to properties
[09:29] <eFoX> could someone help me ?
[09:29] <chaos_> #edubuntu
[09:29] <sioux> hi where I do mistake? samba is installed but I canno't see the PC that share folders
[09:29] <tokenbad> hmm....ok I can write to my slave drive...any one have an idea why...I mounted in fstab like this...: /dev/hdd1   /media/windows   ext3       defaults         0      0
[09:29] <JJF> thanks
[09:29] <mille_> hm
[09:29] <eFoX> i can use iwlist but i cant connect to my network
[09:30] <eFoX> any thoughts ?
[09:30] <nickspoon> tokenbad: if you mean as a user, you need to replace defaults with defaults,user
[09:30] <Yngve1981> Kitche: I've done that and typed in the wepkey but still it's dead
 is there an app that can tell me if things are behaving weirdly
[09:30] <guerby> mille_, Elyxi, is there any channel where the sweden elections result are discussed? can't find any pirateparty result
[09:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: while a screwdriver works fine I also have a hardware sthethoscope from an auto parts store...,
[09:30] <kitche> Yngve1981: well click on the card then activate it :)
[09:30] <nickspoon> Yngve1981: does iwconfig come up with anything?
[09:30] <eyequeue> guerby, ask in #politics, i guess
[09:30] <chaos_> Paddy, it shouldn't be hard to figure out what part is malfunctioning
[09:30] <Yngve1981> Nickspoon: Dunno what that is
[09:30] <kitche> Yngve1981: it's not active so it can't be used to use your network
[09:30] <Yngve1981> Kitche: Hmm..done so several times but nuttin happens
[09:31] <nickspoon> Yngve1981: open a terminal and type iwconfig
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: If it is making that much noise you can probably feel the vibration with your finger.
[09:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[09:31] <omar> hello, do you know how to get different icons for different workspaces?
[09:31] <Wermut> How can I disable cpu frequencz scaling? I tried "killall powernowd" but it does not work.
[09:31] <chaos_> touch the fans (not the blades) to slow them to see if it changes the sound. Start with the case fans, then the gpu fan, then the cpu fan, do not stop the fans just slow them with friction
[09:31] <chaos_> if it's not a fan it's yoru cd/hard drive
[09:31] <kitche> Yngve1981: well ubuntu for me is slow to actually do stuff though the net for some reason takes me 5 minutes just to load a page
[09:31] <Paddy_EIRE> gonna switch of comp and put on top of desk then plug back in
[09:31] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to upload big files to a http server?
[09:31] <eyequeue> don't touch your cpu, heh
[09:31] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, ssh
[09:31] <sioux> ubuntu has a sort of firewall buldin that can block netbios traffic?
[09:32] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, scp rather
[09:32] <tokenbad> nickspoon, so user I would but tokenbad? or would it be user
[09:32] <chaos_> make sure you dont touch the cpu fan blades... that really hurts
[09:32] <Fator_Dee> hello, I have problem with 5.1 surround sounds, center speaker doesn't play any sound
[09:32] <Yngve1981> Kitche: Haha..So really I should go back to Microsoft?
wont the fans/harddrive be vibrating anyway as they are moving parts
[09:32] <mille_> guerby: dont really know anything about that. try a /list search :-)
[09:32] <Coag> chaos_, yes, yes it does
[09:32] <SuperMiguel> eyequeue: what do you mean?
[09:32] <eyequeue> sioux, firestarter is a frontend to iptables
[09:32] <eyequeue> !info iptables
[09:32] <ubotu> iptables: Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.3-2ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 309 kB, installed size 972 kB
[09:32] <eyequeue> !info firestarter
[09:32] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[09:32] <eyequeue> !info repos
[09:32] <ubotu> Package repos does not exist in any distro I know
[09:32] <chaos_> Coag, ever forgot the computer under your desk was open and started playing footsies with it? ^_^
[09:32] <eyequeue> !repos
[09:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:33] <Coag> chaos_, not personally!
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Another hardware tip is to stop the fan blades when using canned air to blow out the heatsinks.  Overspinning the fan s is not good.
[09:33] <chaos_> I don't recommend it
[09:33] <eyequeue> sioux, you would beed universe repo for firestarter
[09:33] <Arrick> how do I change the owner of files in ubuntu?
[09:33] <eyequeue> sioux, need
[09:33] <senori> Arrick: chown
[09:33] <Yngve1981> Nickspoon:Done so!:)
[09:33] <atraeyu> I just installed dovecot using "sudo apt-get install dovecot" - anyone know how I configure & start it now?
 ok the comps completely freezing then i can control again what is doing that
[09:33] <regx> hi
[09:34] <chaos_> I'm listening to mandy moore... what's wrong with me?
[09:34] <ladydoor> Arrick: chown username file
[09:34] <kijjaz> What resource(s) do you recommend for setting up linux kernel for real-time multimedia? (mainly i play with audio).. I've tried following ubuntustudio but i think it can perform better.
[09:34] <surimi> hello
[09:34] <regx> chaos_, lol
[09:34] <surimi> for a 'fontconfig-config... not found' what paquet install?
[09:34] <chaos_> regx... I... enjoyed it
[09:34] <Paddy_EIRE> will be back in a mo if im not dead
[09:34] <Yngve1981> Nickspoon: It came back with all sorts of info!What to do???
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Unplug the drives and try to run live... quick way to cut the problem down to drives or ps/mb
[09:34] <surimi> please
ok
[09:35] <regx> chaos_, who cares then :) its music you enjoy. just dont be.. gay :)
[09:35] <chaos_> jack, that takes too long
[09:35] <regx> Jack_Sparrow, nice nick. :) my aim is jacksprrow :)
[09:35] <eyequeue> regx, please don't in here
[09:35] <regx> eyequeue, what.
[09:35] <chaos_> regx, I dont think both of those conditions can coexist with mandy moore
[09:35] <surimi> I have install 300Mo from KDE too install this Font Installer http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39052
[09:35] <eyequeue> regx, any orientation is okay here
[09:35] <surimi> for a compilation
[09:36] <senori> kijjaz: http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=767
[09:36] <regx> eyequeue, its an expression dont get your pannies in a wad
[09:36] <surimi> no deb at the moment
[09:36] <Niven> ok. After some experimenting I'm stuck in defunctional GUI without console. question - how do I shutdown the system or get to console? Is there some ctrl+alt+del equivalent?
[09:36] <regx> chaos_, lol
[09:36] <kijjaz> senor: oh wow thanks!
[09:36] <chaos_> !sexual orientation
[09:36] <eyequeue> regx, not acceptable here though
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexual orientation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <chaos_> uh oh
[09:36] <kitche> Niven: alt-ctrl-f2
[09:36] <regx> good that guy was a retard
[09:36] <surimi> someone can help me please?
[09:36] <Yngve1981> nickspoon: R u there?
[09:37] <regx> im sick of getting jumped on for just speaking in IRC " oh no you might offend some one"
[09:37] <kitche> !rules > regx
[09:37] <chaos_> I need to compensate for the moore with a double-dose of AC/DC
[09:37] <nickspoon> Yngve1981: yup.
[09:37] <surimi> I come from Windows... this kind of free program http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX can't be found on Linux
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> surimi: I might be able to if I understood your question.
[09:38] <sioux> firestater seems do not block anything. when I ran the desktop icon server network and I try a search a pop up cames out saying that string smb:/// is not valid. How can I fix that?
[09:38] <kitche> surimi: that is not a question really
[09:39] <Jowi> sioux: smb is samba
[09:39] <Jowi> !samba
[09:39] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:39] <chaos_> zomg! my bicep is twitching
[09:39] <chaos_> wow that was odd
[09:39] <[lt] BCC32> Is anybody here who can answer some questions about linux hotplug subsystem ?
[09:39] <kitche> sioux: firestarter isn't a firewall anyways the firewall is built into the kernel, firestarter is an easy way to work with iptables
[09:39] <tokenbad> hmm....ok I can write to my slave drive...any one have an idea why...I mounted in fstab like this...: /dev/hdd1   /media/windows   ext3       defaults         0      0
[09:39] <tokenbad> can=can't
[09:40] <chaos_> Jack_Sparrow, did you get my smb fstab mount entry?
[09:40] <surimi> kitche, Jack_Sparrow, I have this error http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/ with a 'fontconfig-config... not found'
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sioux: another iptable manager is guarddog
[09:40] <Fator_Dee> has someone in here succesfully enabled a 5.1 sound system on their ubuntu's?
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: no..please post it again
[09:41] <JosefK> tokenbad: is the drive NTFS or FAT32?
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: fstab for my ntfs ...  /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[09:41] <chaos_> i have an ntfs mount too if you want that entry
[09:41] <tokenbad> JosefK, neither...I made it ext3
[09:41] <glootech> hi
[09:41] <JosefK> tokenbad: oh, I was just wondering why you were mounting it to /media/windows.  if it's ext3, your user doesn't have permission
[09:41] <kitche> surimi: check to see if you have fontconfig installed
[09:41] <tokenbad> JosefK, how do I fix that?
[09:41] <chaos_> Jack_Sparrow, /dev/sda5 /mnt/Data ntfs ro,uid=1000,gid=1000,user 0 0
[09:42] <JosefK> tokenbad: try 'cd /mnt/windows; sudo touch TEST'
[09:42] <JosefK> tokenbad: chmod + chown
[09:42] <surimi> kitche, please, where?
[09:42] <glootech> I have a question... how do you add a new splash screen to xfce?
[09:42] <chaos_> Jack_Sparrow, //192.168.0.111/share /mnt/Media smbfs rw,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000,credentials=/home/chaos/.smbpasswd 0 0
[09:42] <JosefK> tokenbad: sudo chown root:plugdev /mnt/windows
[09:42] <glootech> I know how to change it, but how to actually add one?
[09:42] <JosefK> tokenbad: sudo chmod 775 /mnt/windows; sudo chmod +s /mnt/windows
[09:42] <tokenbad> I chown the /media/windows to me...like chown tokenbad /media/windows
[09:42] <glootech> googled for it and couldn't find anything
[09:42] <chaos_> the .smbpasswd is just a file with username=asdfasdf and password=adfasdfsadf
[09:43] <kitche> glootech: think xfce just uses a .png file
[09:43] <glootech> but where do I add one? ;)
[09:43] <JosefK> tokenbad: ack, replace /mnt with /media there
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: HAving trouble as local user or as samba share?
[09:43] <chaos_> that mount works perfectly
[09:43] <tokenbad> JosefK, should I umount the drive first?
[09:44] <chaos_> I thought you were having trouble lol
[09:44] <JosefK> tokenbad: no, you need to do that with the drive mounted
[09:44] <sioux> hummm   people configuring samba with samba.conf is too difficult for me. I have installed swat but seems not working but propably there are some configuration that i diden't
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ha
[09:44] <Niven> another quick question - what's root password on default live cd install? (and I swear I won't be coming back without several books)
[09:44] <kitche> glootech: not sure I never really did a xfce splash
[09:44] <sioux> how can I enable swat?
[09:44] <chaos_> SWAT is incredible
[09:44] <JosefK> Niven: there is none
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> chaos_: No, I was helping someone else
[09:44] <JosefK> !root > Niven
[09:44] <chaos_> install swat and uncomment it in inetd.conf
[09:44] <chaos_> and it's golden
[09:44] <kitche> Niven: it doesn't have a root password it uses sudo instead
[09:45] <JosefK> two days 'till I get my laptop and some Edgy Eft luvvin' :(
[09:45] <sioux> what means uncomment it in inetd.conf
[09:45] <chaos_> !inetd.conf
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <chaos_> lies
[09:46] <sioux> here is my inetd.conf: swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[09:46] <Buffy^> Good day
[09:46] <tokenbad> JosefK, trying
[09:46] <Buffy^> any one got a second to help me with a bin problem
[09:46] <chaos_> is swat uncommented (no # next to it) ?
[09:47] <J-_> jsuet bought a nice printer =D http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=595257&AffixedCode=WW
[09:47] <jman8888> Is there any macosx ish docs for Ubuntu.
[09:47] <tamacracker> Hey guys?... how do I burn .ogg into cd audio format?
[09:47] <glootech> ok, thanks for your help, got it!
[09:47] <glootech> cya!
[09:47] <glootech> ;)
[09:47] <jman8888> (Exept Kiba Dock) It looks useless.
[09:47] <zoidberg> guys i need some help
[09:47] <chaos_> yes you do
[09:47] <Jowi> !ask
[09:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:47] <sioux> chaos mu inetd.conf about swat is: swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[09:47] <Buffy^> jman, check the website for info i am sure there are mac docs that can be reference online
[09:47] <sioux> no #
[09:47] <chaos_> then you're set
[09:47] <zoidberg> I'm trying to get JACK to connect...but i kepp geetting a message that my sound card is  being used by anotehr application...but there isnt any other application running?
[09:48] <chaos_> there's probably a way to start it without restarting but I don't have a clue what that is
[09:48] <chaos_> I'm a newb
[09:48] <jman8888> Buffy^, What are they called? I only see kiba-dock
[09:48] <tokenbad> JosefK, seems to work...but how do I make it mount on bootup
[09:48] <JosefK> chalcedony: a way to restart what?
[09:48] <JosefK> tokenbad: if it's in your fstab, it will do
[09:48] <JosefK> tokenbad: unless you have 'user' in the options
[09:48] <Buffy^> How do you install the k7 kernal?
[09:48] <tokenbad> JosefK, so just have it like I showed a few ago?
[09:48] <JosefK> chaos_: a way to restart what?
[09:48] <JosefK> tokenbad: yes :)
[09:48] <chaos_> SWAT
[09:49] <tokenbad> JosefK,  /dev/hdd1   /media/windows   ext3       defaults         0      0
[09:49] <tokenbad> right?
[09:49] <epiloc> is anyone here on ubuntu/apache?
[09:49] <zoidberg> can anyone help me
[09:49] <zoidberg> I'm trying to get JACK to connect...but i kepp geetting a message that my sound card is  being used by anotehr application...but there isnt any other application running?
[09:49] <JosefK> tokenbad: change the 0 to a 2
[09:49] <JosefK> tokenbad: the first 0 that is
[09:49] <tamacracker> can gnomebaker burn .ogg songs into cd audio format?
[09:49] <JosefK> tokenbad: it doesn't need to be brought up with '/'
[09:49] <TheGateKeeper> chaos_: sioux restart services with /etc/init.d/<service>
[09:49] <kitche> zoidberg: what desktop do you use gnome kde or xfce
[09:49] <hackerotaku> question upgraded to edgy .... failure to upgrade 16 packages .... firefox  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb_1.99+2.0b1ubuntu1-2_all.deb (--unpack):
[09:49] <hackerotaku>  installing mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb would break firefox, and
[09:49] <hackerotaku>  deconfiguration is not permitted (--auto-deconfigure might help)
[09:49] <hackerotaku> dpkg: regarding .../firefox_1.99+2.0b2+dfsg-1ubuntu1_i386.deb containing firefox:
[09:49] <hackerotaku>  mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb conflicts with firefox (>> 1.5.z999)
[09:49] <zoidberg> kitche: GNOME
[09:49] <SuperMiguel> how can i know if my ssh server is secure?
[09:49] <sioux> swat should be accessd via localhost but here do no work
[09:49] <chaos_> thanks gate
[09:49] <Jowi> ubotu: tell hackerotaku about pastebin
[09:50] <surimi> kitche ?
[09:50] <Fator_Dee> oh well, I figured my sound prob myself, thanks anyway >_>
[09:50] <lupine_85> SuperMiguel: what do you mean by secure?
[09:50] <tokenbad> thanks alot JosefK
[09:50] <Arrick> ubuntu rocks and saves the day
[09:50] <Arrick> halelujah
[09:50] <theBishop> is there a way for Apt to install an older version of a package than the one currently installed?
[09:50] <JosefK> tokenbad: np
[09:50] <chaos_> I fscking love ubuntu
[09:50] <jrib> theBishop: apt-get install package=version
[09:50] <lupine_85> theBishop: apt-get install <package>=<version>
[09:50] <surimi> how can I check if I have fontconfig installed ?
[09:50] <SuperMiguel> if no body can acces to it :P
[09:50] <TheGateKeeper> chaos_: np might try your little samba gem one day :-)
[09:50] <cronos3> somebody has install googleearth?
[09:50] <tamacracker> alot better than xp once you get used to workin with ubuntu
[09:50] <zoidberg> kitche: do you have any idea what i can do?
[09:51] <theBishop> jrib, lupine_85 thanks ;)
[09:51] <Boll> theBishop: as lupine_85 said, but additionally you probably need to add a pin to /etc/apt/preferences
[09:51] <mbd> hi! im having some X trouble, it cant detect both mouse buttons getting pressed at the same time.
[09:51] <cronos3> it doesnt startup... stays in the startup screen..
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> cronos3: yes
[09:51] <Boll> otherwise the package will get updated the next time you do an update
[09:51] <J-_> ubuntu is not even comparable to xp... gah, how could you... -.- =D
[09:51] <kitche> zoidberg: hmm did you use Flash at all?
[09:51] <theBishop> Boll, its only tempororary, i installed the "buggy" version of Wine
[09:51] <tamacracker> lol J
[09:51] <jrib> surimi: apt-cache policy fontconfig
[09:51] <kitche> zoidberg: such as looking at a flash site or something like that
[09:51] <cronos3> do I have to do some conf to xorg..?
[09:51] <Boll> theBishop: Ok, no problem then.
[09:52] <theBishop> :-*
[09:52] <zoidberg> not really... i might have in teh past but i've restarted the computer?
[09:52] <JosefK> mbd: do you want to use both mouse buttons as a 'middle-click'?
[09:52] <cronos3> I have already an acce graphics card...
[09:52] <zoidberg> kitche: is there anyway i can check?
[09:52] <hackerotaku> getting error message from upgrading to edgy
[09:52] <mbd> no, i want to be able to rocketjump in q3 and the like
[09:52] <hackerotaku> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23780
[09:52] <jrib> hackerotaku: edgy in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> cronos3: shouldn't. just follow the directions for the linux version from google, install the dep's and right click and make executeable if I remember correctly
[09:52] <hackerotaku> will do
[09:53] <JosefK> mbd: ah, you'll need to turn off emulate 3 button mouse then
[09:53] <surimi> jrib, thank you
[09:53] <cronos3> I done that..
[09:53] <mbd> JosefK, ok..
[09:53] <kitche> zoidberg: if you don't know then you probably didn't but I think it could be a sound daemon issue but I m not to famailar with gnome myself
[09:53] <JosefK> mbd: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (I assume you can do this, if you've managed to get q3 installed) and remove the line from your mouse config that has 'Emulate' in it
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> cronos3: run from term and look for errors.
[09:53] <sioux> in firestarter allow inbound service for smb and microsoft-ds must be specified?
[09:53] <muaddib> is anyone familiar with the vmware utility p2v
[09:53] <regx> im == to bord;
[09:54] <mbd> JosefK, ok
[09:54] <cronos3> no errors... just stays in the startup screen...
[09:54] <wastrel> ubunto
[09:54] <Howitzer> What is the fastest terminal around? (Eterm, aterm, konsole, rxvt, gnome-terminal?)
[09:54] <hackerotaku> aterm
[09:54] <cronos3> It doesnt have any log on the googleeart dir
[09:54] <regx> xterm/aterm
[09:54] <hackerotaku> use screen
[09:54] <kitche> Howitzer: they are all the same speed
[09:54] <cronos3> I install also celestia.. but doesnt work..
[09:55] <mbd> JosefK, any way to reload the config without restarting?
[09:55] <regx> kitche, no they arnt..
[09:55] <JosefK> mbd: Ctl+alt+backspace
[09:55] <regx> mbd /etc/init.d/server reload
[09:55] <JosefK> mbd: kills X and GDM restarts another one
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> cronos3: Please understand that I need to ask..  Have you changed your sources list manually or with a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu? (NOT recommending that you do.)
[09:55] <mbd> JosefK, ok ill try, thanks for the help
[09:55] <cronos3> yes..
[09:55] <regx> no..
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> cronos3: THought so..
[09:55] <regx> so did i
[09:56] <cronos3> do I have to get the original lists back..?
[09:56] <wastrel> ...
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[09:56] <regx> Jack_Sparrow, wtf are you talking about
[09:56] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: this is why I like my setup script more :)
[09:56] <cronos3> is that true...?
[09:56] <mille_> Jack_Sparrow: my gf lows johnny depp xD
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> regx: Exactly what I said.
[09:56] <regx> ive been running linux for like 6 years now.. and automatix presents no issues for me..
[09:56] <mille_> loves*
[09:57] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: EasyUbuntu isn't so bad, it gives you the option to preserve your original sources.list
[09:57] <mille_> and she is sitting riiiight here.
[09:57] <mille_> hehe
[09:57] <gpgarrettboast> Is there anyone that can help me get my broadcom wireless working? I've tried linuxant driverloader, ndiswrapper, and the bcm43xx drivers...
[09:57] <cronos3> but why its so bad..?
[09:57] <cronos3> it just install other software..?
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: easyubuntu has gotten better, but it still uses other repos which can come back and bite you later.
[09:57] <kitche> regx: I mglad that your talking to me since I haven't said anything in a long while
[09:57] <gubluntu> whats a good gui frontend for GnuPG?
[09:58] <TheBigToe> afk, mythbusters :B
[09:58] <regx> kitche, ..............................what
[09:58] <mbd> JosefK, it didnt work
[09:58] <jrib> gubluntu: seahorse kgpg
[09:58] <kitche> [03:55pm]  [regx]  kitche, no they arnt..
[09:58] <gubluntu> howabout gnome?
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> gpgarrettboast: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:58] <sioux> how can I specify a range of allowed source in firestarter?
[09:58] <JosefK> mbd: erk, it's obviously not X causing the problem then, as it isn't intercepting those clicks anymore
[09:58] <jrib> gubluntu: seahorse (I forgot the comma)
[09:58] <JosefK> mbd: it looks Q3 specific
[09:58] <gubluntu> thanks
[09:59] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:59] <mbd> JosefK, no it dosnt work in gnome either
[09:59] <gpgarrettboast> Thanks Jack_Sparrow
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:59] <Jowi> gubluntu: gpa
[09:59] <mbd> JosefK,  it neither popups a menu or deselects current selection
[09:59] <Jowi> !info gpa
[09:59] <ubotu> gpa: GNU Privacy Assistant. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 860 kB
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gpgarrettboast: that should fix you right up
[10:00] <JosefK> mbd: left/right on their own, or both together?
[10:00] <mbd> JosefK, both together
[10:00] <wastrel> i like cookies
[10:00] <JosefK> mbd: in that case, look in Gnomes mouse config (System->Preferences)
[10:00] <JosefK> mbd: on the 'advanced' tab
[10:01] <mbd> JosefK,  hmm.. i dont have one..
[10:01] <fuci> Regards for lilo :(
[10:01] <wastrel> there's no advanced tab in system->preferences->mouse
[10:02] <tristanmike> What's the best option to voice chat with Windows users ? Thank You
[10:02] <nickspoon> skype/
[10:02] <JosefK> mbd: ack, it could be labelled 'other settings', the second tab
[10:02] <mbd> JosefK, 2 of my buttons dont work either.. can it be related? i have a logitech dual optical
[10:02] <nickspoon> !skype
[10:02] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:02] <tristanmike> aside from skype ?
[10:02] <JosefK> mbd: it could be the mouse itself, unfortunately evdev is currently broken
[10:02] <AZzKikR> tristanmike, teamspeak?
[10:03] <mbd> JosefK, no 'other settings' either
[10:03] <JosefK> mbd: it's the second tab
[10:03] <mbd> the mouse worked fine in windows
[10:03] <nickspoon> tristanmike: Gizmo?
[10:03] <tristanmike> I'm looking for something, perferably compatible with MSN ? is there anything, Gaim doesn't, Amsn doesn't seem to, I can't get Kopete to work...
[10:03] <JosefK> mbd: yes, I have a Logitech G5 and some of the buttons aren't recognised too
[10:03] <tristanmike> nickspoon: Gizmo? looking into that now....
[10:03] <mbd> JosefK,  pointers? seems like we dont have the same mouse preferences dialog..
[10:03] <JosefK> mbd: indeed :/
[10:04] <ketsugi|IMF> tristanmike: All of those work fine with MSN
[10:04] <ketsugi|IMF> Something wrong with your setup maybe?
[10:04] <tristanmike> ketsugi|IMF: for voice chat ?
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: i think it may be the processor fan, is there anything i can do to the fan itself
[10:04] <ketsugi|IMF> oh
[10:04] <ketsugi|IMF> sorry, didn't see that :/
[10:04] <ketsugi|IMF> Skype?
[10:05] <nickspoon> (21:02:47) tristanmike: aside from skype ?
[10:05] <ketsugi|IMF> I am apparently lousy at reading logs
[10:05] <AZzKikR> ketsugi_, didn't see that either? :D
[10:05] <tristanmike> lol
[10:05] <tristanmike> ketsugi|IMF: if I have to use Skype, I will, I was hoping to do it while we chat on MSN, but that's ok
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You can pull the sticker, add a little vaseline and tape it carefully back up.. and REPLACE asap.  Dont blow a cpu for the cost of a fan
[10:06] <nickspoon> tristanmike: I very much doubt you will find one that integrates with MSN.
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Also pull the heatsink, clean with alcohol and re-apply thermal grease
[10:06] <tristanmike> nickspoon: that's crappy, but thank you all for your advice and help :D
 i dont have any thermal greece
[10:06] <nickspoon> aMSN does webcam however, so maybe it does voice too.
[10:06] <inglor> so get some thermal grease
[10:06] <kitche> tristanmike: try amsn, gaim think amsn has msn voice chat
[10:06] <inglor> it costs like $8
[10:06] <inglor> gaim = good
 and will wine do a good cleaning job :)
[10:06] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[10:07] <aanderse> has anyone ever got the windows game "Dungeon Siege" to work in ubuntu using wine ever?
[10:07] <wikijeff> Is there a way to get emacs to recognize my mouse wheel for scrolling?
[10:07] <regx> marijuana
[10:07] <inglor> dungeon siege? hmm, never tried it
[10:07] <ezech> ok, I have booted up pc with linux livecd and chrooted to already made ext3fs partition, where I have mounted ubuntu iso image into /mnt/cdrom as loopback device
 did u search winehq for compatability
[10:08] <inglor> cool
[10:08] <speakman> Yo ppl
[10:08] <inglor> yo
[10:08] <AZzKikR> YO M8
[10:08] <ezech> so, I have ubuntu cd mounted inside working linux OS
[10:08] <aanderse> Paddy: some people got it to work, some not
[10:08] <ezech> can I install ubuntu from this point?
[10:08] <regx> who in hear smoke marijuana.. im currious
[10:08] <speakman> Any way to install Dapper Drake without the Live ?
[10:08] <regx> speakman, you can install via the Alternate install cd
[10:08] <pty> use the alternative install disk
[10:08] <Jowi> speakman: download the alternate cd
[10:08] <nicholas> when you say live you mean live cd?
[10:08] <nickspoon> speakman: Alternate CD. Scroll down  the Download page.
[10:08] <inglor> yeah, there is
 im gonna take the fan off and clean it, im unsure what u mean by taping it
[10:08] <nicholas> i'm still on breezy
[10:09] <nicholas> never switched over
[10:09] <nicholas> to dapper
[10:09] <aanderse> Paddy_EIRE: so i assume that means you haven't? anyone else ever tried?
[10:09] <inglor> hey, speaking of which, I'm wondering, when the new release will be out in october, will I be able to upgrade my box without formatting?
 also where would the vaseline go
[10:09] <nicholas> probably
[10:09] <speakman> nickspoon: Alternate is without live totaly?
[10:09] <inglor> probably as in probably yes?
[10:09] <regx> speakman, ya
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: there is a sticker in the center of the fan covering the bearing, remove sticker, add small amount of lube, put fresh tape over bearing to keep lube from escaping
[10:10] <inglor> speakman, you can use the text installer
[10:10] <regx> speakman, its the only way i can install on my box
[10:10] <Jowi> nicholas: the live cd has got a installer on it nowadays. surf the web while you install. :)
oh ok
[10:10] <Yngve1981> n
[10:10] <inglor> yeah, the liveCD installer rocks
[10:10] <pty> inglor: probably as in back up your data first :)
[10:10] <nicholas> i love the chicken
 cheers im just glad i have narrowed it down....would the comp not have just shut down if the fan failed
[10:10] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[10:10] <nicholas> i love the chicken
[10:10] <AZzKikR> THEY TOOK OUR JOBZ!
[10:10] <nicholas> i love the chicken
[10:10] <nicholas> i love the chicken
[10:10] <nicholas> i love the chicken
[10:10] <LoRez> Warning: `nicholas' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:10] <nicholas> i love the chicken
[10:10] <nicholas> i love the chicken
[10:10] <ubuntu> anyone able to guide me through  setting up a machine for dual boot?
or the processor became to hot
[10:11] <speakman> Okay, downloading the alternate :)
[10:11] <nicholas> hi again
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: or the cpu goes up in smoke..
[10:11] <speakman> thanks alot!
[10:11] <nicholas> it didn't boot me
[10:11] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[10:11] <nicholas> d?
[10:11] <nicholas> d?
[10:11] <inglor> sure, I'd be able to guide you through a dual boot
[10:11] <nicholas> d?
[10:11] <AZzKikR> nicholas, stop spamming ffs
[10:11] <nicholas> d?
[10:11] <LoRez> Warning: `nicholas' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:11] <regx> ubuntu, what did you need to do?
[10:11] <nicholas> LoRez
[10:11] <nicholas> d?
 what can i use right now app wise to check the temp of processor
[10:11] <eoutsider> hi..this is a test
[10:11] <sharakato> hi i'm trying to install my arescom nds1060adsl modem..
[10:11] <eoutsider> ok...seem's too be alright
[10:11] <nicholas> is there an app for linux that will check proc temp?
[10:11] <ubuntu> regx:  i currently have my windows partition and an unallocated section
[10:12] <Kameli> Hello guys. I'm getting this message when i try to run Unreal Tournament 2004 demo Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 28f0cf9d631687728e72611a0a87f9d0 is different from a18e5631b3fd8e6e4fb4937d45002ff2
[10:12] <AZzKikR> eoutsider, no way!
[10:12] <regx> nicholas, lmsensors
[10:12] <Kameli> what does this mean?
[10:12] <Kameli> :(
[10:12] <nicholas> thanks
[10:12] <Kameli> can someone explai
[10:12] <Kameli> n
[10:12] <eoutsider> ?
[10:12] <AZzKikR> Kameli, wrong download
[10:12] <sharakato> but i don't find the options to my country...
[10:12] <AZzKikR> Kameli, try downloading it again
[10:12] <inglor> wrong download kemali
[10:12] <Kameli> :/
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: My football game is about to start, See you tomorrow if you have any questions...   FYI, I set the shutdown/warning temp iin the bios
[10:12] <regx> ubuntu, if you install linux onto another partition.. it should auto add your windows install to grub
[10:12] <ubuntu> regx: i how to prepare the unallocat3ed section for linux
[10:12] <inglor> ubuntu, I IMed you
[10:12] <niruana> does Ubuntu supports packages?
[10:13] <inglor> niruana, of course
[10:13] <jd65pl> Hi I really could do with some networking help and the forums aren't providing much in the way of answers. Anyone know much about networkin?
ok what should it be
[10:13] <inglor> ubuntu, cleanup and defrag the partition in windows
[10:13] <inglor> jd65pl, what do you need?
[10:13] <bmcfarli> hey guys, anyone know where to get Soundblaster live 24bit drivers?
[10:13] <bmcfarli> i cant seem to find any
[10:13] <ubuntu> regx: what i am getting stuck on is the next part
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: 55c max but different people have different opinions
[10:13] <regx> ubuntu, what are you getting stuck at...
[10:14] <inglor> bmcfarli, it should pick them up on its own
[10:14] <regx> ubuntu, you just select your unallocated partition and say install to it
[10:14] <jd65pl> I have two pcs one with wireless and wired the other just wireless, net connection comes in through wireless then passed through wire to the other pc, just it isn't working right now
i'll agree with u and do 55c
 enjoy the game :)
[10:14] <Fraj> does ubunto already hav azurus?
[10:14] <ubuntu> regx: are you talking about the alternat install cd?
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> cya, play nice..
[10:14] <regx> ubuntu, ya..
[10:14] <bmcfarli> inglor, that isnt good because it isnt. any other pointers?
[10:14] <Jowi> bmcfarli: go here and follow the instructions http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ ... find the line that looks like the sb driver and modprobe it. see if that get you anywhere
[10:14] <hangfire> fraj- yes
[10:14] <ubuntu> regx: i'm not using that
[10:14] <regx> ubuntu, the live cd should be even easier
[10:14] <inglor> jd65pl,  which of these computers runs ubuntu?
[10:15] <bmcfarli> thank you tons jowi
[10:15] <ubuntu> regx: trust me it is not
[10:15] <inglor> ubuntu, live cd is a piece of cake
[10:15] <mille_> hm. the version of vncviewer that comes with ubuntu is 3.3.. but serv that's on a windows computer is 4.0. so i can't connect to it. suggestions?
[10:15] <inglor> ubuntu, would you like to talk over MSN and I'll walk you through?
[10:15] <slimemonkey> do all wireless adapters (i dont know if i am using the right term: usb's that give wireless ability) work with linux? or is there a particular something i need to look out for?
[10:15] <regx> ubuntu,  ive done it. just select your empty partition and install to it
[10:15] <nickspoon> mille_: compile from source.
[10:15] <ubuntu> inglor: there is no CLEAR way of selecting the unallocated part of the drive to install too
[10:15] <lupine_85> slimemonkey: some work, some don't
[10:15] <inglor> slimemonkey, most of the wireless devices are easy with linux
[10:15] <nickspoon> slimemonkey: check the HCL.
[10:15] <inglor> ubuntu, you need to resize the windows partition
[10:15] <lupine_85> go for Atheros or Ralink if unsure
[10:15] <slimemonkey> nickspoon: HCL?
[10:15] <inglor> ubuntu, I suggest you do it from within windows, it's safer
[10:15] <jd65pl> One runs ubuntu the other damn small linux, I can nmap both pcs but neither will communicate or ping?!? cable type is crossover inglor thanks for any help you can provide
[10:16] <sioux> who help me to set up SWAT?
[10:16] <ubuntu> regx: what are you talking about there is no option to just select and install in the live one
[10:16] <lupine_85> broadcom are a bit of a pain, but work in most cases. Intel work, but a complete pain to work
[10:16] <nickspoon> slimemonkey: hardware compatibility list.
[10:16] <HesNikke> i killed my xserver
[10:16] <ubuntu> inglor: the partition is already set  its the install that i'm stuck on
[10:16] <HesNikke> and i can't find any cli tools to fix it
[10:16] <slimemonkey> nickspoon: and where can i find this?
[10:16] <inglor> ubuntu, what's the problem with the install?
[10:16] <regx> ubuntu, it should show your partitions in the partitioner.. you select your empty partition and set it as '/' and then hit next....
[10:16] <kitche> HesNikke: what do you mean by killed?
[10:16] <nickspoon> http://wiki.ubuntu.org/wiki/SupportedWirelessCards
[10:16] <marcopolo_> hey, can anyone tell me how to get tremulous on ubuntu?
[10:16] <inglor> jd65pl, so what seems to be the problem exactly, you need to explain the situation further, which of the computer is the host of the other one?
[10:16] <HesNikke> i mean i changed graphics adapters and it doesn't start
[10:16] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, download it? :)
[10:17] <slimemonkey> nickspoon: thankyou
[10:17] <nickspoon> whoops.
[10:17] <ubuntu> regx: i am using the LIVE CD
[10:17] <marcopolo_> I got it on my computer, but i cant use the .x86
[10:17] <HesNikke> i just want a wizard like configuration program
[10:17] <nickspoon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[10:17] <mille_> server, not serv.
[10:17] <marcopolo_> what is a "./86"??
[10:17] <AZzKikR> .x86?
[10:17] <nickspoon> slimemonkey: that's the one ^
[10:17] <HesNikke> any recomendations?
[10:17] <slimemonkey> nickspoon: oh ok
[10:17] <regx> ubuntu.. yes i know.. welcome to earth?
[10:17] <inglor> HesNikke, configuration program for what?
[10:17] <kitche> HesNikke: ok you have to edit xorg.conf most likely sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf or X -configure or xorgconfig
[10:17] <jd65pl> inglor DSL box is ssh server Ubuntu is client
[10:17] <HesNikke> X11
[10:18] <drnoone> hi all
[10:18] <inglor> jd65pl, does the actual internet work on the dsl box? is the problem just with the wireless network?
[10:18] <kitche> HesNikke: do a X -configure it should auto detect everything
[10:18] <HesNikke> thanks
[10:18] <marcopolo_> I need help using the actual executive file after downloading tremulous, can anyone help?
[10:19] <jd65pl> inglor the problem is with the wired connection when both are connected to my router I get communication but none when they are wired
[10:19] <ubuntu> regx: there is no option to do that with the LIVE CD
[10:19] <regx> ubuntu, dude seriously
[10:19] <inglor> ubuntu, yes there is
[10:19] <inglor> ubuntu, read the manual
[10:19] <HesNikke> lol
[10:19] <inglor> !installation
[10:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:19] <drnoone> My TVCard Remote isn't working. The rest of te functions works ok. I have a saa7134 based Card running on Dapper......anyone had the same problem?
[10:19] <regx> inglor, thank you
[10:19] <HesNikke> it fixed my graphic adapter, but killed my mouse
[10:20] <HesNikke> ] lol
[10:20] <HesNikke> ok, i think i can take it from here
[10:20] <inglor> jd65pl, you mean there is no wireless communication but the wired bit works just fine?
[10:20] <ezech> ubotu: I have booted up linux with ubuntu iso mounted
[10:20] <jd65pl> inglor all conections are fine maybe i'm not explaining to well you mind if i give you a link?
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I have booted up linux with ubuntu iso mounted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <ubuntu> regx: the error is  No partition select for /
[10:20] <ezech> can I start any installer from this point?
[10:20] <inglor> jd65pl, IM me
[10:21] <inglor> ezech, yes
[10:21] <regx> ubuntu, that means you didnt select your empty partition and set it AS /
[10:21] <jd65pl> inglor sorry new to IRC do you meen through IRC?
[10:21] <ubuntu> regx: your an idiot
[10:21] <inglor> jd65pl, yes, if you'd like I have MSN and ICQ too
[10:22] <inglor> jd65pl, my msn is benjamingr@msn.com , you can catch me there
[10:22] <AZzKikR> EVERYBODY SPAM!
[10:22] <regx> ubuntu, .. i have 10 servers running.. freebsd/openbsd/rhel/archlinux/ubuntu and a dual screen system.. i think i know a thing or two about linux
[10:22] <inglor> ubuntu, watch your language and attitude if you want to get helped
[10:22] <Jowi> ezech: boot the live cd. you should have an install icon on the desktop. see the install links further up for documentation.
[10:22] <ezech> Jowi: I can't boot the livecd
[10:22] <Jowi> ezech: why not?
[10:23] <ezech> all I have is described abowe (linux up and running with ubuntu iso mounted)
[10:23] <ubuntu> regx: you can not select an unallocated section of a drive and select /  without recieving that error
[10:23] <ezech> Jowi: technicaly imposible
[10:23] <inglor> ubuntu, yes you can, you just select the unallocated space and set up the root there
[10:23] <regx> ubuntu, i know the fix. but your ungreatful for help so. my suggestion is  google
[10:23] <Mattwj2005> hey everyone :)
[10:23] <AZzKikR> yo
[10:24] <ubuntu> inglor:   on the live cd?
[10:24] <jvff> Is there dev tools on the Ubuntu x86-64 LiveCD? (mainly gcc and make)
[10:24] <jvff> ?
[10:24] <ubuntu> regx: suck it
[10:24] <Mattwj2005> I just wanted to say thank you.....I got my free CDs in the mail :)
[10:24] <XiXaQ> inglor, mount space outside of a partition?
[10:24] <Jowi> ezech: impossible in what way?
[10:24] <ubuntu> regx: you don't know shit
[10:24] <sethk> !ops
[10:24] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:24] <regx> can some one kick this retard?
[10:24] <regx> ubuntu go back to windows.
[10:24] <sethk> ops1, got a troll here
[10:24] <wastrel> "retard" is no better than "shit"
[10:25] <AZzKikR> ubuntu, you're not worthy of using your current nick
[10:25] <sethk> wastrel, well, you can be retarted without being a shit  :)
[10:25] <regx> Seveas, thanks
[10:25] <inglor> I really hate people who get stuff for free and support for free and still act ungrateful
[10:25] <exs> How do I use my ubuntu (6.06) laptop as an internet gateway for my windows desktop?..Both network cards are working, but it does not work.. it actually kicks out my wireless connection with my laptop to my router when I connect them.
[10:25] <strangy> mornin'
[10:25] <Seveas> sethk, wastrel: drop the foul language please
[10:25] <AZzKikR> evenin'
[10:25] <wastrel> sethk:  and vice versa but neither belong in this channel
[10:25] <Seveas> the person is gone
[10:26] <wastrel> neither word i mean
[10:26] <ezech> Jowi: impossible in the way that I can't do it even if I want to
[10:26] <Mattwj2005> I think that kubuntu is one of the best Linux distros
[10:26] <sethk> Seveas, thanks, and sorry about the language; I was not serious but you are correct, it's against the channel rules
[10:26] <gpgarrettboast> gah, no luck.. Does anyone else have any suggestions for this wifi?
[10:26] <regx> i love when newbs suck up to the ops
[10:26] <regx> i love you Seveas
[10:26] <Aliases> hi, how do i add unstable sources and where (i'm new at ubuntu)? thanks
[10:26] <RvGaTe> http://pc.rvgate.nl/nvidia_twinview.mpg  <- still having the same problem, cant seem to figure out why the left screen doesn't allign right... :S
[10:27] <mad_man> how does one setup appilcations to fire up as default ? like when i click a web link i wood like firefox to fire up
[10:27] <marcopolo_> Hey, can anyone help me with tremulous?
[10:27] <regx> Aliases, have you modified your /etc/apt/sources.list yet?
[10:27] <Mattwj2005> ubunutu, edubuntu, and xubunutu are great too
[10:27] <Aliases> regx, nope
[10:27] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, like i said before, downloading it and untarring it, and executing the executable did it for me
[10:27] <regx> Aliases, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:27] <regx> Aliases, then uncomment the lines that start with  #deb
[10:27] <marcopolo_> i got to the executing part, but now the screen just flickers after i click on it
[10:28] <Aliases> thx
[10:28] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, open up a terminal
[10:28] <sethk> mad_man, that's the default behavior with the desktop installation.  there is a section in the desktop configuration for file associations
[10:28] <regx> Aliases, np
[10:28] <sjr> okay I have a computer with a 'somewhat' broken cd Drive
[10:28] <sjr> i'd like to install Ubuntu
[10:28] <marcopolo_> kay
[10:28] <regx> Aliases, remember to  sudo apt-get update after that
[10:28] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, try executing the exec from there, and analyse its output
[10:28] <sjr> is there like a netinst or a business card sized one like debians
[10:28] <marcopolo_> um... how?
[10:28] <Jowi> ezech: no, i meant... ummm... is the ubuntu boot cd not working and another bootcd with linux is, or you have linux installed previously etc.. can you be more precise of what can work for you. there is for example a wiki page with installation from a knoppix live cd.
[10:28] <Aliases> and how do i search with apt-get?
[10:28] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, just open xterm, or gnome-terminal
[10:28] <sethk> sjr, "somewhat broken" how?
[10:28] <ezech> does ubuntu cd include non-livecd-way installer I can fireup manualy from cli? (as far as I have searched - no, I need confirmation)
[10:28] <sjr> read errors
[10:28] <regx> Aliases, apt-cache search <package>
[10:28] <marcopolo_> i got terminal open, now what?
[10:29] <Aliases> thx :)
[10:29] <inglor> ezech, I believe so
[10:29] <sjr> basically i can get half way thru a debian install but can't even start a ubuntu install because it will puke
[10:29] <mad_man> sethk: epiphany is firing up as default browser
[10:29] <sjr> Ubuntu is too piggy to install.
[10:29] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, go to the dir where you installed it, and execute ./tremulous.x86
[10:29] <princemackenzie> do you know why my NIC won't work under 6.06?
[10:29] <Aliases> omg every thing is so simple with gentoo! :\
[10:29] <atraeyu> I just installed courier-imap and courier-pop - I believe I now need to configure the "Maildir" - but I'm not sure exactly what to do.  Can anyone help?
[10:29] <manopulus> hello, i installed acts_as_authenticated, did rake migrate and visit http://127.0.0.1:3000/account/login. both, signup and login works well but after that i have error: NoMethodError in AccountController#login
[10:29] <manopulus> undefined method `current_user=' for #<AccountController:0xb746ba3c>. what i have to do now?
[10:29] <regx> Aliases, what are you having problems with?
[10:29] <regx> Aliases, everything is hard when you move to a different distro.
[10:30] <HesNikke> alright next question... does ubuntu come with excelerated ATi drivers, or do i need to go to ati to get them? on amd64?
[10:30] <nd0627> @ everyone: what mp3 player u using ?
[10:30] <Jowi> ezech: you would want the alternate cd. see if that work. otherwise have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ... installation can be done from windows, knoppix, usb stick etc
[10:30] <emptec8> hola?
[10:30] <HesNikke> accelerated*
[10:30] <AZzKikR> nd0627, rhythmbox
[10:30] <mad_man> sethk: desktop configuration ? looking,looking ?
[10:30] <emptec8> alguien conoce algun canal en espaol?
[10:30] <varun> when I do a 'modprobe ndiswrapper' I get 'FATAL module ndiswrapper not found'
[10:30] <pty> nd0627: quod libet
[10:30] <sethk> mad_man, I use kde and it's in a slightly different place, so I can't tell you precisely how to find it in gnome
[10:31] <Boll> pty: on Dapper?
[10:31] <pty> edgy now, but i used it on dapper yeah
[10:31] <Aliases> i feel strange
[10:31] <sethk> mad_man, it's possible that if you do an install (or reinstall) of firefox it would set firefox as the default browser.  I'm not certain but it's worth a try, if you don't find an easy way to do it.
[10:31] <Aliases> as if i'm with a new os
[10:31] <Boll> pty: you didn't happen to come across a backport of something newer then 0.16 which is the Dapper default?
[10:32] <regx> Aliases, ....................................... its still linux
[10:32] <princemackenzie> dapper won't see my NIC: well, it does see it an activate eth0... but then it doesnt work
[10:32] <princemackenzie> it only sends and looks for DHCP
[10:32] <Aliases> it doesnt feel so
[10:32] <Boll> It's pretty hard to backport newer versions from Debian due to the new python framework
[10:32] <Aliases> apt-get install emerge
[10:32] <princemackenzie> any ideas?
[10:32] <princemackenzie> its wired n all
[10:32] <princemackenzie> new nforce430 mobo
[10:32] <gpgarrettboast> mad_man: Edit-Preferences->General   'Default Browser' frame
[10:32] <dv5000> mad_man: System >> Preferences >> Preferred Applications
[10:32] <pty> Boll: I didn't, but installing from source is straightforward
[10:33] <nd0627> @ everyone: can you play mp3 that's coming from a shared network flder ?
[10:33] <deceptacon> yeah
[10:33] <nickspoon> nd0627: provided you mount it, yes.
[10:33] <Boll> pty: Yeah. I just have a thing about installing non-deb-formatted stuff.
[10:33] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[10:33] <k31th> I want to dissable users getting email in the format of username@blah.com i have created virtual mail addresses for my users and dont want mail from username@ going to that users account
[10:33] <Boll> pty: Thanks anyway though.
[10:34] <asdfjkl> does anyone know how you can make your desktop be a web URL instead of a static image saved on your HDD?
[10:34] <mad_man> dv5000: thank you | easy as that
[10:34] <CromagDK> anyone into wine vs twinview ? heh :D
[10:34] <pty> Boll: no problem.  I have a thing about that too but for ql i make exceptions :)
[10:34] <marcopolo_> HEY CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH TREMULOUS?
[10:34] <nickspoon> !caps
[10:34] <CromagDK> !shout
[10:34] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:35] <Aliases>   linux-image-2.6.10-6-686 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-6-686. why is this kernel so old, and how do i get new source from apt?
[10:35] <CromagDK> Aliases: you can make a distupgrade
[10:35] <marcopolo_> well noone dows read lowercase
[10:35] <Aliases> is there unstable sources for apt?
[10:35] <CromagDK> and change sources.list to dapper
[10:35] <dv5000> mad_man: np
[10:35] <regx> Aliases, yes
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, god damn it man, I just try to help  you but have you tried my suggestion?!
[10:36] <marcopolo_> yes, it doesn't work
[10:36] <Fingertips> hey
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, what does it say then!?
[10:36] <marcopolo_> i pmed  you, but u ignored
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, i pm insensitive
[10:36] <marcopolo_> it flickers the screen and terminal exits
[10:36] <Davidou> hi
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, i.e. i don't read them
[10:37] <Aliases> i did dist-upgrade and its installing me old things, is there special unstable sources i need to add?
[10:37] <regx> Aliases, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:37] <dv5000> !test > dv5000
[10:37] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, then try this: ./tremulous.x86 > ~/tremulous.log
[10:37] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, when that is done analyse the output of the tremulous.log file
[10:37] <marcopolo_> kay, ill try
[10:37] <gpgarrettboast> Can anyone help me get my Broadcom wireless adapter working?   I tried ndiswrapper, bcm43xx, and linuxant driverloader.
[10:38] <Davidou> Do you know an application, except OOo, which can generate a PDF, with several pages (1 .jpeg->1page on the PDF) ?
[10:38] <sioux> who knows SWAT?
[10:38] <regx> Aliases, did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list???
[10:38] <Aliases> regx, yes
[10:39] <regx> Aliases, there should be Unstabe repos in there
[10:39] <marcopolo_> this is what I get:
[10:39] <atraeyu> I just installed courier-pop and courier-smtp.  I tried login from another computer using pop but I get the following message: "Mail server responded: Maildir: No such file or directory" - apparently I need to configure something.  Does anyone know?
[10:39] <marcopolo_> ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)
[10:39] <marcopolo_> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[10:39] <marcopolo_> RE_Shutdown( 1 )
[10:39] <marcopolo_> -----------------------
[10:39] <marcopolo_> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[10:39] <marcopolo_> -----------------------
[10:39] <marcopolo_> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[10:39] <atraeyu> I meant courier-imap (not smtp)
[10:39] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, use pastebin next time for pasting large quantities of log lines and such
[10:40] <marcopolo_> sry
[10:40] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, did you install your graphics drivers?
[10:40] <Aliases> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' .only this: deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:40] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:40] <sioux> I can run SWAT with my user credential but it show me only views and descriptions is it normal?
[10:40] <marcopolo_> ya... um i had them on windows, shit i forgot to try... will they still work if they're windows drivers for nvidia?
[10:41] <s-ndh-c> someone using screem?
[10:41] <marcopolo_> i just got ubuntu
[10:41] <ompaul> !language
[10:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:41] <s-ndh-c> i cant get it to open a site via sftp
[10:41] <regx> Aliases, there are way more repos in that conf.. use your eyes and scroll wheel
[10:41] <pwhite> Hello, I have a bit of a noob question related to partition sizing. My /dev/sda4 partion reached 100% so I booted to the live CD and resized it although the system doesn't seem to be recognizing that fact...
[10:41] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, no they won't, there are probably some tutorials on the web about installing drivers for your card
[10:41] <epiloc> anyone here running apache?
[10:41] <ompaul> marcopolo_, no you need to read the thing the bot is about to send you
[10:41] <ompaul> !nvidia > marcopolo_
[10:42] <AZzKikR> thanks ompaul
[10:42] <ompaul> marcopolo_, read the message from ubotu and follow that instuction
[10:42] <pwhite> After rebooting, df shows that I have 18GB in use, out of 20G although the partition shows up as 53.48GB in GParted. Any ideas?
[10:42] <ompaul> AZzKikR, ?
[10:42] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:42] <regx> epiloc, ya sup?
[10:42] <marcopolo_> thanks Azzkikr
[10:42] <Aliases> regx, there isn't, i'm not so stupid
[10:42] <AZzKikR> ompaul, for the suggestion of !nvidia
[10:42] <exs> Why doesn't anyone know anything about using ubuntu as a gateway for a windows machine so you're able to launch firefox on windows so it goes through ubuntu?.. isn't there a way?
[10:42] <ompaul> ahh
[10:42] <regx> Aliases, didnt say you were stupid.
[10:42] <Sp4rKY> please how can get recursively with ftp ?
[10:42] <Aliases> i know
[10:43] <dv5000> haha, most people whill already know this one but type "sudo apt-get moo".. just read about it
[10:43] <epiloc> regx, im having trouble setting up vhosts so that i can run 2 domains on the same machine
[10:43] <AZzKikR> dv5000, yeah, funny flag :d
[10:43] <regx> epiloc, hmm shouldnt be pretty simple..
[10:43] <regx> epiloc, i believe apache has a how to on it that is really easy to follow
[10:43] <ompaul> dv5000, install "cowsay" and do this >> cowsay  hello there dv5000
[10:43] <epiloc> regx,  where?
[10:43] <regx> epiloc, hold
[10:44] <Paddy_EIRE> hey there could anyone tell me what type of processor fan i would need for an athlonxp processr
[10:44] <epiloc> regx, the only tutorials i have found talk about editing the httpd.conf file - and in ubuntu it is empty
[10:44] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, is the far end running "openssh-server" ?
[10:44] <epiloc> regx, the folks at #apache told me its ubuntus fault ... little help over there
[10:44] <sethk> Paddy_EIRE, not sure what you mean by what type.  there are mechanical fans, solid state heat moving devices that substitute for fans, ...
[10:45] <regx> epiloc, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[10:45] <ompaul> epiloc, check out /etc/apache2/ it might help some
[10:45] <sethk> epiloc, there are a number of tools you can use that make it easier
[10:45] <dv5000> ompaul: haha funny but whats whit ubuntu and cows? :_
[10:45] <regx> epiloc, i never had issues.. though i did only run on on freebsd.. i dont remember doing vhosts on ubuntu
[10:45] <epiloc> sethk, please for the love of god, fill me in
[10:45] <ompaul> dv5000, super moo powers is all that is up
 jus ta basic fan that spins and cools the processor much like the one i have now
[10:46] <dv5000> ompaul: geheh ok :)
[10:46] <sethk> epiloc, for one, webmin has very nice module for apache.  unfortunately I think webmin was removed from the dapper repositories
[10:46] <epiloc> regx, that tutorial, like i said- talks about making changes to httpd.conf, in ubuntu this file is supposed to be empty
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> ompaul: sure
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> its a debian box
[10:46] <regx> epiloc, thats makes no sence...
[10:46] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, so is it behind nat or something?
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> but screem doesnt even ask for a password
[10:46] <epiloc> regx, the fact that my httpd.conf is empty ?
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> or does it only support sftp with key auth?
[10:46] <regx> epiloc, ya
[10:47] <regx> epiloc, wtf does apache read then
[10:47] <sethk> Paddy_EIRE, I'd have to look up what the form factor and connection type are for that processor, but anybody who sells fans will be able to tell you which model is for that processor
[10:47] <s-ndh-c> my private key is passphrase protected maybe thats the problem
[10:47] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:47] <sethk> epiloc, are you sure it is empty?
[10:47] <epiloc> sethk, positive
[10:47] <sethk> epiloc, for example, you didn't try to edit the file as a user who doesn't have read privileges for the file?
[10:47] <epiloc> ill paste it
[10:47] <s-ndh-c> ompaul:  no it isnt, its a server directly connected to the internet
 it s just that i have no store to buy from except for the web and emailing back and fourth is tedious
[10:48] <sethk> epiloc, that's odd, the default config file has lots of comments and such in it.
[10:48] <sethk> Paddy_EIRE, I'll see if I can put my finger on the right tech terms.
[10:48] <epiloc> sethk, it has plenty of comments
[10:48] <epiloc> but no directives
[10:48] <ompaul> epiloc, read the README file in that directory it explains it all
 no probs
[10:48] <sethk> epiloc, ok, then let's start again, because it isn't empty
[10:49] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, so can you log in via ssh?
[10:49] <sethk> epiloc, what you mean, then, is that it contains only comments?
[10:49] <s-ndh-c> ompaul:  sure
[10:49] <princemackenzie> where can i manually download the newest kernel debs?
[10:49] <epiloc> sethk, ompaul, regx, the README file in /etc/apache2 says:
[10:49] <s-ndh-c> iam logged in atm to access my irssi in screen
[10:49] <epiloc> httpd.conf
[10:49] <epiloc> 	Empty file.
[10:49] <epiloc> ?
[10:49] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, then sftp -C username@machine
[10:49] <CromagDK> !kernel
[10:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:49] <Fingertips> could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:50] <pitapiti> hi all, im having issues making my new graphics card work under x using the nvidia drivers...
[10:50] <regx> epiloc, not sure man.. thats odd... i dont understand how apache works with out its httpd.conf
[10:50] <ompaul> ompaul@homer:/etc/apache2$ wc README ::  82  293 2266 README
[10:50] <CromagDK> pitapiti: what seems to be the problem ?
[10:50] <princemackenzie> thanks
[10:50] <sethk> epiloc, you have to be consistent.  First you say it's empty, then you say it has comments in it, then again you say it's empty.  which is it?
[10:50] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:50] <s-ndh-c> ompaul:  ah it asks for the passphrase, i should use something like ssh-agent i guess
[10:50] <s-ndh-c> will try that
[10:50] <princemackenzie> my NIC won't work under the 6.06 kernel, but the newest one should work
[10:50] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, ehhhhhhhh no comment ;-)
[10:51] <sethk> princemackenzie, the newest what?  the newest kernel?
[10:51] <princemackenzie> sethk
[10:51] <pitapiti> CromagDK: it doesnt seems like the nvidia drivers are loaded because i dont get the splashscreen, and also the resolution is 640x480 although my config states 1280x1024...
[10:51] <princemackenzie> sethk, yeah
[10:51] <Gud> hi, I'm having trouble running something I compiled on ubuntu
[10:51] <Gud> bash: ./p0k3r: No such file or directory
[10:51] <Gud> but the file is there
[10:51] <Gud> anyone recognise this problem?
[10:51] <sethk> princemackenzie, you can build the latest kernel from source.  It's not difficult to do.
[10:52] <princemackenzie> sethk, my NIC won't work in the 6.06 live cd
[10:52] <CromagDK> pitapiti: and you used the guide from ubuntuguide ?
[10:52] <epiloc> sethk, I say it has comments in it, the README file says it is empty....   here is the readme
[10:52] <epiloc> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23788
[10:52] <princemackenzie> sethk, but googling seems to indicate updating will work
[10:52] <Jowi> Gud: if the file exist, make it executable "chmod +x p0k3r"
[10:52] <pitapiti> CromagDK it seems like the card isnt recognized correctly... the other one was recognized perfectly but it one just says "unknown nvidia card"
[10:52] <sethk> princemackenzie, you are sure that you need a newer kernel, not just different kernel build options?
[10:52] <CromagDK> pitapiti: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:53] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:53] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:53] <princemackenzie> sethk, mind if i PM?
[10:53] <th1ef> hello how i can i install EMACS on Ubuntu??
[10:53] <pitapiti> CromagDK: ive been looking around for info, which guide are you refering to?
[10:53] <CromagDK> pitapiti: 2 gfx cards ?
[10:53] <sethk> princemackenzie, no, I don't mind
[10:53] <awe6> I've just unpacked a 750 gig USB drive intended for Network Storage.  Anyone know how to get it mounted?
[10:53] <russell> not an ubuntu question but, if i ad-hoc 2 routers i can get internet off of one onto the other right?
[10:53] <asdfjkl> th1ef: sudo apt-get install xemacs21
[10:53] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:53] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef, EMACS 21 I guess
[10:53] <Rug> Can kopete import account settings from gaim?
[10:53] <th1ef> yes
[10:53] <barata> hi xubuntu users ... do you also have synaptic by default?
[10:53] <sethk> epiloc, that looks like a readme from debian
[10:53] <CromagDK> pitapiti: i posted the link before: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:54] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:54] <Rug> awe6: it's easy
[10:54] <pitapiti> CromagDK: no only one, i had a geforce 4 mx 420, i upgraded to a dual display geforce 6200, but i still only have one monitor and im not configuring anything for dual yet
[10:54] <epiloc> sethk, the httpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23789
[10:54] <sethk> barata, you have nothing "by default".  a certain set of packages is installed, depending on which install type you did
[10:54] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef, yes you can
[10:54] <Rug> awe6: step 1 is partition and format
[10:54] <th1ef> how?
[10:54] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:54] <barata> sethk, how can we really choose what to install?
[10:54] <sethk> barata, if something isn't there, you simply use apt-get to install it.  So "by default" doesn't really apply.
[10:54] <CromagDK> pitapiti: ok, twin view is what its called when nvidia
[10:54] <ProsperoMeridion> from package manager
[10:55] <sethk> barata, use one of the other install modes, such as oem install, on the alternate cd
[10:55] <ProsperoMeridion> synaptic
[10:55] <awe6> Rug: At the momemnt, the computer doesn't even know the drive exists.  I was hoping something would pop up like a thumb drive does.
[10:55] <barata> thanks sethk
[10:55] <epiloc> ok, so does anyone here run Ubuntu + Apache?
[10:55] <sethk> epiloc, repeating, the README looks like a readme from debian
[10:55] <CromagDK> pitapiti: but you have put in another card now without new drivers correct ?
[10:55] <awe6> Rug: I know how to partition and format but first I have to see the drive.
[10:55] <pitapiti> CromagDK: yeah but I dont want any of that.. yet. do i still need to set it up even if its for only one monitor?
[10:55] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:55] <CromagDK> pitapiti: not twin view no.
[10:55] <Rug> awe6: How is the device connected to your system?
[10:55] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef: yes, from synaptic
[10:55] <epiloc> sethk, that was the httpd.conf file, must have linked the wrong paste
[10:55] <CromagDK> pitapiti: thats only for 2 monitors
[10:56] <awe6> Rug: Via a USB cable to a USB hub, connected to a Kubuntu 6.06 computer.
[10:56] <BHSPitMonkey> BIG PROBLEM.  I can't mount removable media (CD's, etc) as User.  pmount/mount isn't working.
[10:56] <pitapiti> CromagDK: i simply replaced my old nvidia apg for a new one
[10:56] <sethk> awe6, if the required kernel modules are active, it will be automatically detected.  however, since there is no usable file system on it yet, it can't be mounted.
[10:56] <CromagDK> pitapiti: and now it wont find it ?
[10:56] <pitapiti> CromagDK: thats correct
[10:56] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:56] <CromagDK> pitapiti: ok. one moment
[10:57] <sethk> awe6, the output of dmesg (at the end) will tell you what drive it is detected as, as in sda, sdb, etc.
[10:57] <th1ef> how can i install aMSN on ubuntu??
[10:57] <shwag> how do I customize my apache error pages, such as the Authorization Required page?
[10:57] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:57] <ProsperoMeridion> Can anybody tell me if upgrading to Dapper from Breezy via LiveCD will keep my applications and settings?
[10:57] <CromagDK> th1ef: sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:57] <th1ef> thx
[10:57] <mrbrdo> which mp3 players can play shoutcast streams, except xmms (or xmms can't either)?
[10:58] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef: use synaptic; in general check first synaptic or try automatix
[10:58] <th1ef> CromagDK: not working
[10:59] <nickspoon> ProsperoMeridion: why don't you just switch all your Breezy repositories to Dapper ones and do an apt-get upgrade?
[10:59] <nickspoon> !upgrade
[10:59] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:59] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:59] <CromagDK> th1ef: get an error ?
[10:59] <ProsperoMeridion> thanls ubotu
[11:00] <CromagDK> th1ef: and are you remembering to use universe repos?
[11:00] <th1ef> CromagDK:  yes im gettin an error
[11:00] <CromagDK> th1ef: what is the error
[11:00] <Fingertips> i am having some problems with ubuntu not allowing me to go to a native resolution i.e. 1280x1024.  any reccomendations? i have already installed the latest fglrx drivers
[11:01] <CromagDK> pitapiti: might read this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[11:01] <th1ef> CromagDK:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:01] <CromagDK> and synaptics is open
[11:01] <CromagDK> close it :)
[11:01] <CromagDK> and try again
[11:02] <Fingertips> i am having some problems with ubuntu not allowing me to go to a native resolution i.e. 1280x1024.  any reccomendations? i have already installed the latest fglrx drivers
[11:02] <pitapiti> CromagDK: thanks im looking it up
[11:02] <epiloc> is anyone here running apache+ubuntu?
[11:02] <keegan_> Hellow everyone! I was compiling the new Thunar 4.1 for Xubuntu, but when I go to do it to thunar I do "sh autogen.sh" and it goes, but it stops at "Couldn't find package tar-ustar" Does anyone know what that is, or how I can fix this?
[11:02] <CromagDK> pitapiti: tell me thanks if it works
[11:02] <Hor|zon> epiloc, me? lol XD
[11:02] <lupine_85> well, apache 2
[11:02] <epiloc> Hor|zon, !!!
[11:03] <Fingertips> i am having some problems with ubuntu not allowing me to go to a native resolution i.e. 1280x1024.  any reccomendations? i have already installed the latest fglrx drivers
[11:03] <epiloc> Hor|zon, are you hosting 2 domain names by chance?
[11:03] <lupine_85> epiloc: you need to set up virtual servers if that's what you want to do. pretty easy - check out apache's website
[11:03] <regx> RAWR!
[11:04] <epiloc> lupine_85, you are the 10th person to say that
[11:04] <CromagDK> th1ef: get it working ?
[11:04] <th1ef> yes
[11:04] <th1ef> thx
[11:04] <CromagDK> np
[11:04] <keegan_> Hellow everyone! I was compiling the new Thunar 4.1 for Xubuntu, but when I go to do it to thunar I do "sh autogen.sh" and it goes, but it stops at "Couldn't find package tar-ustar" Does anyone know what that is, or how I can fix this?
[11:04] <anubis> ola
[11:04] <epiloc> lupine_85, I go to the tutoriuals, and they dont line up with my configuration whatsoever
[11:04] <lupine_85> do you have site-available/ and sites-enabled/ ?
[11:04] <lupine_85> erm, sites-available/
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, the guys at #apache told me that ubuntu screws up the config files upon installation
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, yes
[11:05] <awe6> sethk: There is no indication that the USB system is even seeing the drive.  I've searched /var/log
[11:05] <lupine_85> works fine here
[11:05] <jrib> epiloc: did they say /how/ it does so?
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, is your httpd.conf empty?
[11:05] <lupine_85> yes, and it should be
[11:05] <epiloc> jrib, no they were no help at all
[11:05] <lupine_85> in apache2.conf
[11:05] <lupine_85> ...
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, OMG YOU ARe the first one to say that
[11:06] <epiloc> lupine_85, about 6 people told me i was insane
[11:06] <aholland> enemy territory loads with sound but only loads a black screen .... need help
[11:06] <awe6> sethk: I'm going to eliminate the hub first.
[11:06] <Fingertips> gosh darn.. ive already installed fglrx drivers for my ati x800, and yet it wont let me upgrade to native monitor resolution and windows are laggy..
[11:06] <lupine_85> hehe. last line of apache2.conf is an "include". Just before it, add "NameVirtualHost *"
[11:06] <lupine_85> then in each sites-available/ script...
[11:06] <lupine_85> erm, not script, you know what I mean
[11:06] <aquarius> how do I find the mimetype for a file?
[11:06] <epiloc> lupine_85, yes i do!!!
[11:06] <epiloc> lupine_85, the file that has no name :)
[11:06] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[11:06] <keegan_> Does anyone know where I can get Tar-ustar?
[11:06] <Aliases> is edgy is the unstable sources of ubuntu?
[11:06] <jrib> aquarius: mimedb
[11:07] <epiloc> lupine_85, continue
[11:07] <Fingertips> somebody! ive already installed fglrx drivers for my ati x800, and yet it wont let me upgrade to native monitor resolution and windows are laggy..
[11:07] <ompaul> Aliases, yes
[11:07] <lupine_85> you want <VirtualHost *> </VirtualHost> tags...
[11:07] <aquarius> jrib: yeah, I know there *is* a mime database, I don't know how to access it...
[11:07] <Aliases> great
[11:07] <jrib> aquarius: wait that doesn't seem to be standard, the 'fish' package provides a mimdb binary
[11:07] <epiloc> lupine_85, join #epiloc ?
[11:07] <epiloc> lupine_85, i cant /msg
[11:07] <jrib> aquarius: mimedb  I mean
[11:07] <princemackenzie> fingertips, its a mess, you need to install the ati drivers as well
[11:07] <keegan_> I'm guessing then that tar-ustar isn't on ubuntu...
[11:07] <CromagDK> !tar-ustar
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tar-ustar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <aquarius> jrib: ah. Is there no way to read it without installing fish?
[11:08] <Hor|zon> lupine_85, lol he's already using the sites-available way for his current domain so it's gonna be messy if he suddenly switches to apache2.conf
[11:08] <CromagDK> !thunar
[11:08] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0+r21789-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 368 kB, installed size 2632 kB
[11:08] <green__saotome> when my computer is booting, the process gets interrupted half way and it complains about the "LVM Groups" and displays some errors. This adds about a minute or two to the boot up process and it's constant (yes i'm complaining about an insignificant amount of time). Any idea on how to fix this?
[11:09] <jrib> aquarius: I've looked it up in python scripts so you could write a quick script.  I'm sure there is another way but I am not familiar with it
[11:09] <keegan_> Thats thunar 3,0 I'm trying to get 4.1
[11:09] <aquarius> jrib: ok, off to python it is
[11:10] <ikonia> is there a tool in the ubuntu archive the same as "firetune" or something for performane tuning firefox eg: max connections getting set correct
[11:10] <awe6> sethk: Bad news.  Syslog reports: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 183143645 1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[11:11] <tj_> does anyody know how to change the defau;t language through the terminal?
[11:12] <Stevo> who's running Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:12] <jimmygoon> me
[11:12] <tj_> me too
[11:12] <green__saotome> me
[11:13] <Stevo> have ya'll messed with the wireless settings at all?
[11:13] <wastrel> hi
[11:13] <jimmygoon> yea
[11:13] <tj_> ya
[11:13] <Stevo> what app are you using?
[11:13] <tj_> network-manager-gnome
[11:13] <green__saotome> yeah, there's also netapplet
[11:13] <tj_> or ndiswrapper
[11:13] <jimmygoon> network-manager-gnome doesn't work with my card so I use the built in, netapplet, and sometimes if I'm sniffing... kismet and/or ethereal
[11:14] <joe_> A new install of warty doesn't detect blank cd-r's.
[11:14] <joe_> I'm quite sure that the disks are ok (they work on other machines, were purchased today)
[11:14] <nd0627_> how do you decrypt pgp email ?
[11:14] <nd0627_> how do you decrypt pgp email in ubuntu ?
[11:14] <joe_> so, pointers to documentation on cd burner configuration would be helpful
[11:14] <churri> ist
[11:14] <Stevo> the network i'm connecting to is allowing me to connect, but i cannot acquire an ip..  any ideas as to what i'm doing wrong?  i've used ndiswrapper to install the driver, and wpasupplicant because i assumed after reading some things, that you needed it to connect with WPA..
[11:15] <princemackenzie> sethk, i believe i found the link to manually download the latest kernel
[11:15] <tj_> try network-manager-gnome, it's the simplest imo
[11:15] <Commander-Crowe> how do I hide my IP
[11:16] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[11:16] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: use a proxy
[11:16] <Commander-Crowe> just so the IRC can't see it
[11:16] <jrib> !cloak
[11:16] <Commander-Crowe> how?
[11:16] <ubotu> Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[11:16] <Stevo> tj> i have found it to be the best, although the only other app i tried was Wifi Radar..  net-man-gnome will either say i have 100% connection or 0%, either way, i can't acquire an IP to save my life..
[11:16] <jrib> is that jab at Tor really necessary...?
[11:17] <jrib> aquarius: ok close python, you may want gnomevfs-info
[11:17] <green__saotome> when my computer is booting, the process gets interrupted half way and it complains about the "LVM Groups" and displays some errors. This adds about a minute or two to the boot up process and it's constant (yes i'm complaining about an insignificant amount of time). Any idea on how to fix this?
[11:18] <Commander-Crowe> the point is so that I can log into a channel that I was banned from
[11:18] <Stevo> all right..  thanks anyway.
[11:18] <twsbh2005> hi, I have a problem with loading ubuntu on to my computer, it doesn't recognize my SATA drive. what should I do??
[11:18] <Stevo> late
[11:19] <krazykit> gya.  i just installed ati-drivers, and when i go to fullscreen in mplayer, it changes my LCD's resolution.  how do i stop that?
[11:19] <lupine_85> twsbh2005: build your own kernel, or wait for the ubuntu devs to do it for you (edgy?)
[11:19] <tj_> has anybody here tried edgy yet? and if so, have you had any troubles w/ language support?
[11:19] <jester45> can anyone help me with changeing my background i had a picture as a background but for some unknown reason it will not change to the picture it is stuck on a gradient
[11:19] <krazykit> tj_: #ubuntu+1
[11:19] <aquarius> jrib: I just looked in /etc/mime.types in the end. :)
[11:19] <twsbh2005> I don't know how to do that
[11:19] <jimmygoon> tj_ I haven't tried anything but "english" but i didn't have any problems
[11:19] <Stevo> jester> try reloading X
[11:19] <jester45> i did
[11:20] <Stevo> past that is beyond me.  sorry.
[11:20] <bunny> awhile ago i randomly deleted some reg entries to try to make my old ipod updater work so i can install ipodlinux, but now i got it working, itunes wont run, and says like
[11:20] <jester45> could it be that my desktop is smaller than teh picuture
[11:20] <jester45> the*
[11:20] <bunny> unexpected error and closes, can someone help me?
[11:20] <tj_> jimmygoon: it wont stop switching to en-CA, which causes some errors
[11:20] <jimmygoon> oh...
[11:20] <jimmygoon> where do you check what its set on?
[11:20] <tj_> while upgrading
[11:20] <jimmygoon> I will look next time I boot into to see if its set on en-US or e-CA
[11:21] <jimmygoon> ah
[11:22] <twsbh2005> hi, I have a problem with loading ubuntu on to my computer, it doesn't recognize my SATA drive. what should I do?? and how do I do it?
[11:22] <Milktea> I can't find out how to use SCIM
[11:22] <mrbrdo> which programs can play SHOUTcast streams?
[11:22] <Milktea> and I've read !scim
[11:22] <keepsakes> does anyone have backup registry entries for itunes?
[11:22] <ikonia> how can I change the icon sizes on the desktop globally
[11:22] <ikonia> they are massive
[11:23] <shoe> when I try to load synaptic, I get the following error: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[11:23] <Milktea> shoe
[11:23] <Milktea> open terminal
[11:23] <Milktea> type
[11:23] <Milktea> dpkg --configure -a
[11:23] <jimmygoon> shoe: hit "Alt+F2" and then type "gnome-terminal"
[11:23] <junkphreak> ;] 
[11:23] <jimmygoon> and then type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:23] <jimmygoon> milktea: I'm assuming that command probably requires sudo?
[11:23] <twsbh2005> hi, I have a problem with loading ubuntu on to my computer, it doesn't recognize my SATA drive. what should I do?? and how?? someone please?
[11:24] <keepsakes> sudo? um, what exactly IS sudo?
[11:24] <CromagDK> !sudo
[11:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:24] <Kill_X> ompaul, do you read?
[11:24] <Milktea> su stands for super user
[11:24] <keepsakes> isnt it the same as typing in su?
[11:24] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, what motherboard and sata drive do you have
[11:24] <Milktea> yeah
[11:24] <kismet_> anyone know if a WinXP 'Map Network Drive' uses SMB?
[11:24] <twsbh2005> shuttle
[11:24] <junkphreak> and to understand more so #man sudo
[11:24] <CromagDK> yes but sudo is for a period
[11:25] <keepsakes> oh
[11:25] <keepsakes> k
[11:25] <twsbh2005> don't know exactly what dive it is
[11:25] <tj_>  keepsakes: sudo something is SUpersuser DO something
[11:25] <J-_> do i have to reinstall CUPS to make a new username and password? I tried to install my lexmark x2330 printer which is not supported so i made up a username and password then, and now i can't figure out what it is...
[11:25] <princemackenzie> sethk, i got it!
[11:25] <princemackenzie> sethk, it only takes a 'modprobe marvell
[11:25] <keepsakes> i realised, heh
[11:26] <keepsakes> um... how can i install network manager for ubuntu? i tried installing the packs, but after i got libc -> tzdata, tzdata wont install
[11:26] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, and which ubuntu or you trying to load, dapper, breezy...?
[11:26] <shoe> rofl. sorry. i had done that already. My real question was even more ignorant. How do i login as superuser? kudos to whoever answers the question one letter at a...
[11:26] <shoe> t
[11:26] <shoe> i
[11:26] <shoe> m
[11:26] <shoe> e
[11:26] <princemackenzie> s
[11:26] <princemackenzie> u
[11:26] <princemackenzie> d
[11:26] <princemackenzie> o
[11:26] <princemackenzie> s
[11:26] <princemackenzie> u
[11:26] <twsbh2005> dapper
[11:27] <tj_> keepsakes: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome (my favorite)
[11:27] <claudio> I downloaded skype but I can't install it. I tryed apt-get instal 'package'...
[11:27] <J-_> do i have to reinstall CUPS to make a new username and password? I tried to install my lexmark x2330 printer which is not supported so i made up a username and password then, and now i can't figure out what it is
[11:27] <keepsakes> tj_, i tried that, it couldnt find package
[11:27] <ompaul> Kill_X, I have been known to
[11:27] <tj_> have you added the extra repos.?
[11:27] <keepsakes> how do i do that?
[11:28] <keepsakes> and which ones do i add?
[11:28] <jimmygoon> shoe: an easier one is "sudo -s"
[11:28] <Kill_X> ompaul, well, did you get my query messages?
[11:28] <tj_> keepsakes: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:28] <Loevborg> What to do when printing a .pdf in evince doesn't work?
[11:28] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, Is the drive being detected, what does it have on it now?
[11:28] <J-_> =\
[11:28] <keepsakes> thanks, ill take a look at it
[11:28] <tj_> keepsakes: just follow that guide and you should find the repos, as well as many other interesting htings
[11:28] <Kill_X> ompaul, I like to clear things up, you know... :S
[11:28] <ompaul> Kill_X, I have so many windows open they were not visible I'll look at them in a moment - somehthing on the boil
[11:28] <keepsakes> kk
[11:29] <J-_> do i have to reinstall CUPS to make a new username and password? I tried to install my lexmark x2330 printer which is not supported so i made up a username and password then, and now i can't figure out what it is
[11:29] <twsbh2005> no its not being detected. but I have a wd 200gb that I have put three partitions on, the other two are working fine with two operating systems on them. I want to put ubuntu on the last one
[11:29] <keepsakes> doesnt ubuntu need its own partition?
[11:29] <keepsakes> cause of like, ext2 or something?
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[11:30] <twsbh2005> keepsakes no, but I'm going to have three os's on it
[11:30] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, Your using a live cd right?  and is this x86 or x86_64
[11:30] <Kill_X> ompaul, thanks. So I will be afk for about 5 minutes...
[11:30] <keepsakes> kk
[11:30] <tj_> twsbh2005: does it boot from the cd?
[11:31] <twsbh2005> x86_64
[11:31] <keepsakes> oh and tj_, which part should i look at? the dd starter guide is so long
[11:31] <twsbh2005> yeah I'm on it right now
[11:31] <J-_> i forget my username and password for CUPS, can I reinstall the software so i can do so>
[11:31] <tj_> \keepsakes: it has a section that involves the repos, it should be near the top
[11:31] <twsbh2005> I'm just confused that its not recognizing it.
[11:32] <keepsakes> k thanks, and how do you whisper btw?
[11:32] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, so you can boot to the live cd and then start the install and that's when it doesn't see the sata drive?
[11:32] <tj_> twsbh2005: then try using gnome partition editor (system-administration-gnome partition editor)
[11:32] <twsbh2005> yep
[11:33] <twsbh2005> it freezes at the time that its recongnizing any drives
[11:33] <tj_> twsbh2005: see if that sees it
[11:33] <princemackenzie> i spent hours troubleshooting why my nic didn't work, and then a "modprobe marvell" took care of all of it.
[11:33] <tj_> twsbh2005: in that case i have no idea, sry
[11:33] <princemackenzie> has anyone else encountered such silliness
[11:33] <twsbh2005> it doesn't work.
[11:33] <twsbh2005> sad.
[11:33] <Gnelg> are the current partitions visible when in the live environment
[11:33] <twsbh2005> nope
[11:34] <Gnelg> have you tried mounting them
[11:34] <twsbh2005> nope...how would I do that
[11:34] <twsbh2005> I'm good in windows, but I'm new at linux
[11:35] <keepsakes> does anyone know which repos. i should dl for like, network stuff?
[11:35] <twsbh2005> how can I mount them?
[11:35] <boink> man mount
[11:36] <twsbh2005> yah
[11:36] <Gnelg> have to find out what the partitions are seen as before you can mount
[11:36] <twsbh2005> how do I do that
[11:37] <HesNikke> ok, i'm trying to set up xgl - 3d desktops and whatnot
[11:37] <HesNikke> anyone have any experiance with that?
[11:37] <tj_> HesNikke: i have some, but not much
[11:37] <HesNikke> tj_
[11:38] <HesNikke> i'm pretty sure i followed the directions at http://justpretending.net/wp/2006/08/14/new-and-improved-enable-xglcompiz-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake/
[11:38] <HesNikke> but when i log in, things load and then the screen goes black
[11:38] <HesNikke> with a pointer
[11:38] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, give me a bit having to use work laptop on xp, getting a live cd iso downloaded atm
[11:38] <xvxvx> when trying to edit a file it says "timestamp too far in the future" but thats just because the clock got screwed up between boots, how do i fix this?
[11:38] <HesNikke> my xprograms are still running (as top in a console tells me)
[11:38] <HesNikke> the only way i can get out is to control-alt-backspace
[11:39] <HesNikke> - reset the xserver
[11:39] <twsbh2005> ok....
[11:39] <nd0627_> @everyone how do you decrypt a pgp key ?
[11:39] <nd0627_> @everyone how do you decrypt a pgp email ?
[11:39] <tj_> HesNikke: what graphics card do you have?
[11:39] <mabus> nd0627_, Use an easy client like Evolution.
[11:40] <inglor> quick question, how do I 'autoscroll' in ubuntu?
[11:40] <inglor> anyone>
[11:41] <keepsakes> which repositories should i download?
[11:41] <HesNikke> radeon 9550
[11:41] <lupine_85> erm, none of them? :p
[11:41] <inglor> quick question, how do I 'autoscroll' in ubuntu?
[11:41] <eternalswd> does anyone know where xchat-remote is found?
[11:41] <HesNikke> using the ati 8.26.18 preprietery drivers
[11:42] <tj_> hesnikke: do you have 3d acceleration?
[11:43] <jpjacobs> eternalswd, see output of whereis xchat-remote?
[11:43] <HesNikke> fglrxinfo says i should
[11:43] <HesNikke> any simple way to test it?
[11:43] <eternalswd> it's loaded properly in xchat, but whereis xchat-remote doesn't find it
[11:44] <tj_> hesnikke: fglrxinfo is what i use to test
[11:44] <tj_> hesnikke: i'll see if i can find you a better guiide
[11:44] <__mikem> I know this is a stupid question, but is writing random data to the framebuffer dangerous?
[11:45] <tokenbad> ok am confused...
[11:45] <tokenbad> I mounted an 80 gig drive
[11:45] <tokenbad> put 1.7 gigs onto it..and it says only have 1 gig free space
[11:46] <jpjacobs> tokenbad, what partitions are on it? And which filesystems?
[11:46] <J-_> do I have to reinstall CUPS to add a new username and password? when i tried to install my lexmark, i made a username and password and fuckin forget it now
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[11:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:47] <J-_> sorry =X
[11:47] <jpjacobs> J-_, can't you reset it by adding sudo to the command?
[11:47] <jester45> has anyone here played cube
[11:47] <tokenbad> jpjacobs, should be ext3...I based on someones suggestion did: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd1
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jester, yes
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: Sauerbratten is better.
[11:48] <J-_> jpjacobs: im not using a command
[11:48] <jester45> is sauerbratten a fps
[11:48] <jpjacobs> J-_, oh well, what are you doing anyway?
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: YEs, same group made it
[11:48] <tj_> hesnikke: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618 is the one i used, and it worked for me
[11:48] <tokenbad> whats command to list drives
[11:48] <tokenbad> not mount
[11:48] <tokenbad> but other
[11:48] <J-_> http://localhost:631/ adding printer
[11:48] <tokenbad> ahh..df -h
[11:49] <SuperMiguel> have any one here tested the 2.16 gnome?
[11:49] <jpjacobs> tokenbad, and does hdd1 contain the whole HD or is it perhaps only one patrtition (doing fdisk -l /dev/hdd) will show all partitions
[11:49] <jester45> Jack_Sparrow: would you happen to know the apt-get for it then
[11:49] <SuperMiguel> have any?
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: No apt get, lettme look..
[11:49] <HesNikke> thanks, i'll give it a shot
[11:50] <SuperMiguel> have any one tested the new gnome?
[11:50] <Gnelg> twsbh2005 try doing this in terminal fdisk -l
[11:50] <J-_> screw it, i'll just reinstall ubuntu to do it
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: http://sauerbraten.org/
[11:50] <tokenbad> jpjacobs, that command says can't open hdd
[11:50] <Gnelg> twsbh2005 what does it show
[11:51] <tokenbad> jpjacobs, got it
[11:51] <tokenbad> seems like more that one partition...
[11:51] <jpjacobs> tokenbad, try with sudo then (and that's -L but then not capital, not -I or -1 ;))
[11:51] <jester45> Jack_Sparrow: thanks just got my video card 3d inabled and want to try some games now
[11:51] <RvGaTe> are the community docs down ?
[11:52] <mrbrdo> is there ANY way to disable SHIFT+BACKSPACE combination?
[11:52] <kismet_> anyone know if the WinXP 'Map Network Drive' functions thru SMB?
[11:52] <jtf0518> 903 people in here? God, I'm getting agoraphobia just thinking about it.
[11:52] <jtf0518> yes, Map Network Drive uses SMB
[11:53] <kismet_> good good good, thanks jtf0518
[11:53] <HesNikke> O_o
[11:53] <jtf0518> so if you have the full Samba loaded on your Ubuntu computer Windows can map to it from Explorer.
[11:53] <HesNikke> my pointer is stuck on the right 2/3 of my screen
[11:53] <mrbrdo> please someone, how to disable SHIFT+BACKSPACE
[11:53] <jtf0518> your welcome, kismet
[11:53] <mrbrdo> it's driving me nuts
[11:53] <tj_> so does anybody know how to change the system langualge from en-CA to en from the command line?
[11:53] <jester45> does anyone know if sourceforge randomly picks mirrors or are they based on ping
[11:54] <HesNikke> killall gnome-window-decorator
[11:54] <HesNikke> wait
[11:54] <HesNikke> gnome-window-decorator & DISPLAY=:1
[11:54] <HesNikke> compiz --replace gconf
[11:54] <HesNikke> #fixes the shift-backspace bug
[11:54] <HesNikke> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[11:54] <HesNikke> d'oh
[11:54] <HesNikke> i wanted to paste that last line
[11:54] <HesNikke> sorry
[11:54] <ompaul> !xgl
[11:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:54] <HesNikke> mrbrdo, see the xmodmap line
[11:54] <Hor|zon> lol why are you using gnome-window-decorator when there's cgwd?
[11:54] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: where should i put it?
[11:55] <HesNikke> joins #ubuntu-xgl
[11:55] <inglor> any way to use autoscroll in linux>
[11:55] <HesNikke> uh
[11:55] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: and does that disable it all together?
[11:55] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: or it still logs out?
[11:55] <tokenbad> there is no way to combine ext3 partitions into one partition?
[11:55] <HesNikke> thats a shellscript  for starting up compiz
[11:55] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: can u come to ubuntu-xgl plz
[11:55] <HesNikke> k
[11:56] <jester45> Is it a bad thing if when i turn my speakers on full and turn on both subs my circuit breaker blows
[11:56] <conrad-c2d> Does anyone know how to assemble a raid partition without the uuid handy?
[11:57] <jester45> 904 peoples on the room
[11:57] <elionor> hi there.... i'm having a small problem. My screen offset is off. I can adjust it with xvidtune fine, but using that modeline in xorg.conf does not seem to work? why does xvidtune (apply) work, but xorg.conf does not?
[11:57] <atraeyu> Has anyone installed roundcube-webmail?  I'm getting a DB error and I think it's because of a pear dependency ... but I'm not sure what to do.
[11:58] <brendonjt> kia ora  one and all
[11:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> im having some problem with text showing up in java programs
[11:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> anyone know anything about that?
[11:58] <tokenbad> there is no way to combine ext3 partitions into one partition?
[11:58] <lupine_85> tokenbad: not without data loss, I'd imagine
[11:59] <tokenbad> lupine_85, thats fine...as said..want the drive empy
[11:59] <DaveyJ> heyo i'm in xubuntu and i'm trying to add some partitions to my new disks.. the create partition option is disabled.. how od i go about formatting these disks?
[11:59] <lupine_85> you could do a Towers of Hanoi combination, I guess
[11:59] <tokenbad> but want it in all 1 partition
[11:59] <jtf0518> you can delete one of the ext3 partitions and resize the other in the partition manager but don't delete the system partition.
[12:00] <lupine_85> tokenbad: ever tried the towers of hanoi?
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !opengl
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <tokenbad> lupine_85, what is that