| === rouzic [n=rouzic@9.Red-88-10-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-13.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| GNUr | xinelib is buggedi edgy? | 12:38 |
|---|---|---|
| crimsun | "bugged"? how? | 12:38 |
| GNUr | amarok and other xine based application "jump" | 12:39 |
| crimsun | "jump"? | 12:39 |
| GNUr | crimsun: the sound is corrupted (sorry for my bad english") | 12:39 |
| crimsun | please be more precise. How does it "jump"? | 12:40 |
| crimsun | It works fine here on both an onboard Intel ICH6 and an M-Audio Transit USB. | 12:40 |
| GNUr | jump=sound is not continuous | 12:43 |
| GNUr | i've a via8235card (snd_via82xx) | 12:43 |
| GNUr | i tryed to reinstall (sudo apt-get install libxine-main1 libxine1 --reinstall) | 12:44 |
| GNUr | but nothing! :/ | 12:44 |
| GNUr | crimsun: i think that it's a buffer problem :/ | 12:49 |
| GNUr | with a large (wav) file it "jump" more! | 12:50 |
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-28-146.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| crimsun | GNUr: does this occur w/ all sound? | 12:57 |
| === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| GNUr | i've tryed with wma/wav/mp3... :/ | 01:00 |
| crimsun | so it's reproducible with ``aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''? | 01:01 |
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| bddebian | Howdy | 01:04 |
| === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === rouzic_ausente_ [n=rouzic@9.Red-88-10-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === GNUr [n=gnucca@host11-35-static.25-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete:] | ||
| === rouzic_ausente__ [n=rouzic@9.Red-88-10-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-226-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] | ||
| === claydoh [n=clay@66.252.46.227] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.193.114] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === FreeT15 [n=user@221.221.163.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| jdong | boy it's quiet in here today | 03:35 |
| bddebian | aye | 03:36 |
| Jucato | yesh it ish | 03:36 |
| claydoh | football! | 03:36 |
| claydoh | not | 03:36 |
| Jucato | hi claydoh! :) | 03:37 |
| claydoh | hey Jucato | 03:39 |
| jdong | hehe, funny, Award..... | 03:39 |
| jdong | award BIOSes play fur elise via the pc speakers if you take off the CPU cooler | 03:40 |
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Jucato | Hobbsee!! | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato! | 03:41 |
| jdong | hey guys, what's up with media/hal handling in edgy? | 03:42 |
| claydoh | jdong: i don't think I will try that out :) | 03:42 |
| jdong | IMO the changes made are a regression from dapper... | 03:42 |
| jdong | first of all, opening up Places->Media doesn't give me an all-in-one mounting area | 03:43 |
| jdong | it opens up /media instead | 03:43 |
| jdong | which is no good for unmounted hotplugged media | 03:43 |
| jdong | secondly, once mounted, unmounting a USB stick does NOT give me a progress dialog anymore | 03:43 |
| jdong | instead, it shows up unmounted while it's still syncing in the background | 03:43 |
| jdong | if I would've yanked it out, I would've lost all my data | 03:43 |
| jdong | from edgy-changes, it seems like tonio has been doing most of the media ioslave changes? | 03:44 |
| jdong | claydoh: surprisingly it doesn't seem to hurt Intel CPU's too much | 03:46 |
| jdong | claydoh: but it was an accidental discovery.... | 03:46 |
| jdong | claydoh: our P3 Coppermine robot kind of had a steep fall off a 6 foot wall..... | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 03:47 |
| jdong | but I did find a dapper ACPI bug :) | 03:47 |
| jdong | it's kind of a disturbing one... very disturbing | 03:47 |
| jdong | after putting the CPU cooler back on, I looked into the syslog | 03:47 |
| jdong | it had "ACPI: Critical Temperature 165C reached. Powering down" | 03:47 |
| jdong | repeated 10 times over a 5 minute interval | 03:47 |
| jdong | something tells me it didn't power down as advertised :D | 03:48 |
| === jdong hesitates to put this in launchpad... he might get the absurd bug of the year award :) | ||
| === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| claydoh | jdong: ouch! | 03:50 |
| jdong | claydoh: I know. I certainly hope nobody relies on critical temp poweroff... :-/ | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: ah yes, i've had similar on edgy. | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | i *know* my computer doesnt get that high | 03:51 |
| claydoh | I don't rely on it, tho I do have it set on my board | 03:51 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: yeah, but doesn't the fact that it says it's powering down, but your computer is still running, disturb you? ;) | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: i'd just switched to upstart at the time, so no, not really | 03:52 |
| === claydoh exploded a Duron by forgetting to plug in the fan power lead | ||
| jdong | claydoh: AMD processors do not like being abused in that way... | 03:52 |
| claydoh | nope | 03:53 |
| jdong | intels are however, surprisingly resilient | 03:53 |
| claydoh | but they's cheeeep | 03:53 |
| === Hobbsee has an intel :P | ||
| jdong | claydoh: try to beat celeron prices :) | 03:53 |
| claydoh | but id have to buy a new board :) | 03:53 |
| jdong | claydoh: around here, I can get sub-$50 celeron D mobo+CPU combos | 03:53 |
| jdong | perfect for sticking on a robot | 03:53 |
| === bddebian would never buy a celeron | ||
| jdong | because the boys are gonna trash it pretty damn fast anyway | 03:53 |
| jdong | for running a 300-line python script, a celeron is plenty of power | 03:54 |
| jdong | heck it's replacing a 40MIP 8-bit chip :) | 03:54 |
| claydoh | I may do intel if I decide to build a new box instead of the constant small upgrades | 03:54 |
| jdong | claydoh: how can you say no to the core 2 duo? ;) | 03:54 |
| claydoh | $$$ I don't have atm :) | 03:55 |
| === jdong just used his friend's conroe extreme to convert his entire divx collection to x264 | ||
| claydoh | my wallet says no for me lol | 03:55 |
| jdong | the act of transferring my divx's to his hard drive took longer than the transcoding :) | 03:55 |
| claydoh | heh | 03:55 |
| jdong | god those are powerful CPU's | 03:56 |
| jdong | and I've handled quite some powerful systems in my times.... FX-51's.... | 03:56 |
| jdong | a FX-60 rendering machine.... | 03:56 |
| claydoh | sweet | 03:56 |
| claydoh | my tbird 2800 is the fastest I have used | 03:57 |
| claydoh | oops athlon xp rather | 03:57 |
| claydoh | i don't get out much :) | 03:58 |
| jdong | aww, you're really missing out | 03:58 |
| claydoh | I know | 03:58 |
| jdong | I tell you, watching firefox compile in 2 minutes is really breathtaking | 03:58 |
| bddebian | Egads, what is that on? | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | a) why compile firefox, b) my gosh that's fast! | 03:59 |
| claydoh | heh | 04:00 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: a) because I wanted gcc4's stack protector on my firefox? | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: ahhh.. | 04:00 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: and turn on SSE also... it makes a bit of a difference on my core duo | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | right | 04:00 |
| === Hobbsee wonders what SSE is | ||
| jdong | it's not that great a boost... mostly I wanted it to be using the system's GCC | 04:00 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: silly gentoo ricer CFLAGS tuning :) | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:01 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: it's really addicting... stay away from it :P | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | sure, i dont have my dual core yet :P | 04:01 |
| jdong | *sigh*, it's the final irritation of Intel CPU's | 04:02 |
| jdong | their FPU performance is still a tad weak | 04:02 |
| jdong | but executing FPU instructions via SSE gives a nice boost | 04:03 |
| jdong | however, doing the same thing on an AMD makes it go slower.... :( | 04:03 |
| jdong | so a distro can't really optimize for both worlds | 04:03 |
| bddebian | jdong: How fast can it build glibc? :-) | 04:07 |
| bddebian | Of course on GNU/Hurd it probably wouldn't matter ;-( | 04:08 |
| jdong | bddebian: I haven't tried, but he got gentoo from stage1 to full KDE + GNOME system in like 4 hours | 04:08 |
| Jucato | hurd.... | 04:08 |
| jdong | maybe 5 hours.... between lunch and dinner | 04:08 |
| bddebian | Wow | 04:08 |
| jdong | yeah, it's phenomenal | 04:08 |
| jdong | that thing is quite possibly the fastest PC you can build | 04:09 |
| bddebian | Jucato: ?? :-) | 04:09 |
| Jucato | nothing :) | 04:09 |
| jdong | only thing faster would be a quad Core 2 setup :) | 04:09 |
| === jdong kicks hal | ||
| jdong | WHOA! slashdot has a 403! | 04:14 |
| jdong | no, wait, even better, a 500! | 04:14 |
| jdong | I gotta post this on slashdot... oh wait | 04:15 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:15 |
| jdong | and it's back online | 04:15 |
| jdong | damn are they fast | 04:15 |
| Jucato | not yet for me. | 04:15 |
| Jucato | Internal Server Error | 04:15 |
| jdong | it went down again | 04:16 |
| Jucato | up and down... reminds me of a certain forum... :P | 04:16 |
| === jdong wishes ubotu supported @lart in here | ||
| Jucato | you want to kick my arse so badly? :D | 04:17 |
| Jucato | @lart jdong | 04:17 |
| Jucato | heh | 04:17 |
| === Hobbsee can kick much more effectively. | ||
| Jucato | uh oh... | 04:17 |
| === Jucato hides from the whip | ||
| Jucato | ah /. is back in business | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: you saw what my hostname changed to, didnt you? :P | 04:18 |
| Jucato | no I didn't... | 04:18 |
| === Jucato whistles... | ||
| Jucato | never knew you were on #kde-devel and #kde4-devel :) | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | i am, i never talk though | 04:19 |
| Jucato | ah. A silent observer :) | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@LongPointyStickOfDoom:~$ echo See the hostname and cower in fear!See the hostname and cower in fear! | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 04:20 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:20 |
| Jucato | btw, is there a way to group rooms/channels in Konversation? | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | what, an auto join? | 04:21 |
| Jucato | I mean, group rooms in the tree-view tab | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | i havent figured out how to | 04:21 |
| Jucato | hope it was possible... | 04:22 |
| Jucato | so I could close a whole group of channels if I wanted to | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | file a wishlist bug? | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | or ask in #konversation ? | 04:22 |
| === Jucato whistles... | ||
| Jucato | speaking of bugs... I noticed that some apps, for example KWord or kdissert, are not listed/available in Add/Remove Programs? (both Synaptic and Adept) | 04:23 |
| === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-84-17.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Jucato | hm...this is strange... linux-headers-386 is installed by default on Knot 3, but not linux-headers-generic | 05:35 |
| === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.29] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | Jucato: er, yes. surely that shouldnt happen | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: ah, they're recommending those headers, and apt is autoinstalling them | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | Jucato: I believe that is known | 05:47 |
| Jucato | err... but shouldn't the linux-headers-generic be the ones that are recommended? | 05:47 |
| Jucato | well at least kubuntu-desktop is no longer dependent on the linux-headers (like it was dependent on linux-headers-686 in Knot 2) | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | it effectively does. hmm. | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | it'll get fixed :) | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: will you fix it? :P | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | no, because I know that other people are doing so | 05:49 |
| Jucato | :) | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | it would be a futile duplication of effort | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | right | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | that's your excuse. now get reviewing | 05:58 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:58 |
| bddebian | heh | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | you too, bddebian :P | 06:01 |
| Hobbsee | dont make me use my hostname on you | 06:01 |
| Jucato | hah! | 06:01 |
| === bddebian has reviewed about 5 packages tonight | ||
| === Jucato suddenly gets busy | ||
| Hobbsee | bddebian: nice :) | 06:01 |
| Jucato | seems like Hobbsee is in the mood to be a dominatrix today :P | 06:02 |
| bddebian | That's new? ;-) | 06:02 |
| Jucato | heh | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: heh. | 06:02 |
| Jucato | well, more than usual today than on any other day it seems :) | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: arent i *always* like that? and mean, cruel, nasty and horrible :P | 06:02 |
| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee! | 06:03 |
| Jucato | well, today you seem to be dominatrix++ :) | 06:03 |
| Jucato | hi nixternal! | 06:03 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal | 06:03 |
| nixternal | hiya Jucato | 06:03 |
| nixternal | nixternal == owned by sun | 06:03 |
| nixternal | im in pain | 06:03 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: heh, right. | 06:04 |
| bddebian | Gads there is just tooo much on REVU :'-( | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: i cleaned some of it up too :P | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: just take it 1 package at a time - I'll get into reviewing in a couple of hours after I finish up at work | 06:12 |
| bddebian | Not that anything I do matters much, mind you :-) | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: of course it does. stop being silly. | 06:13 |
| === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-125-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| nixternal | i have 3 things on revu awaiting ;) | 06:15 |
| nixternal | soon to be 4 ;) | 06:15 |
| nixternal | gwenview 1.4.0 | koverartist | kxstitch | schafkopf | 06:17 |
| nixternal | awaiting someone to tell me how bad they are ;) | 06:18 |
| bddebian | Bah KDE packages pfft ;-P | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | !info gwenview main | 06:18 |
| nixternal | i will work on other packages if need be bddebian, just point me to some | 06:18 |
| ubotu | gwenview: image viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1981 kB, installed size 4676 kB | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | !info gwenview edgy | 06:18 |
| ubotu | gwenview: image viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.92b-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 587 kB, installed size 2060 kB | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: got a UVF exception for gwenview? | 06:18 |
| nixternal | 1.4.0 is hot off the presses | 06:18 |
| nixternal | nope | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | better get to it :P | 06:18 |
| nixternal | jeesh ;) | 06:19 |
| nixternal | point me in the right direction | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | oh, sure | 06:19 |
| === Hobbsee looks for the documentation for it | ||
| nixternal | im doing the same | 06:19 |
| nixternal | found it | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | If the package is in main or restricted, mail Matt Zimmerman <[MAILTO] mdz@ubuntu.com> and Colin Watson <[MAILTO] cjwatson@ubuntu.com> with a short description of the requested change and the section of the upstream changelog describing that change. You may also do this from within Malone by assigning a bug to [WWW] Ubuntu Release Team. | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 06:20 |
| nixternal | that is different than the UVF wiki page ;) | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | that was on developerresources | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | it's all quite out of date though | 06:22 |
| ajmitch | nixternal: when in doubt, ask on irc | 06:22 |
| nixternal | all i need to do is file a bug, summary 'UVF - New Upstream Releasae' and assign it to Ubuntu Release Team? | 06:22 |
| ajmitch | you need to give far more detail than that | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | like upstream changelog, diffstat, build logs, etc | 06:23 |
| nixternal | well ya | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | if possible :) | 06:23 |
| nixternal | oh jeesh | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | subscribe, don't assign | 06:23 |
| nixternal | what have i gotten myself into ;) | 06:23 |
| === ajmitch tells Hobbsee to fix the wiki page | ||
| === Hobbsee tells ajmitch to do it. | ||
| Hobbsee | i was thinking about it, actually | 06:24 |
| nixternal | gwenview-1.4.0.tar.bz2 |binary | 06:41 |
| nixternal | 1 file changed | 06:41 |
| nixternal | that is all there is to a diffstat? | 06:41 |
| nixternal | or am i doing something wrong | 06:41 |
| nixternal | i did a lot wrong ;) | 06:44 |
| nixternal | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gwenview/+bug/60997 | 06:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60997 in gwenview "UVF - New Upstream Release" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 06:47 |
| nixternal | i think that is ok | 06:47 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:48 |
| === BigScaryHobbsee waves her pitchfork | ||
| nixternal | damn hobbsee, slow down...right as i goto autocomplete bigscaryhobbsee you changed ;) | 06:49 |
| BigScaryHobbsee | nixternal: hehe | 06:49 |
| nixternal | i got that backwards, but oh well | 06:49 |
| nixternal | i think i did the UVF somewhat correct | 06:49 |
| nixternal | i subscribed the release team, added the logs | 06:50 |
| nixternal | i test built it here, and i even installed it...it looks like it works here | 06:50 |
| === Jucato_ [n=jucato@210.213.193.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === FreeT15 [n=user@221.221.163.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato | ||
| === J-a-r_ [n=netstar@c83-252-125-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: yea i almost got it finished ( i finshed releading it last night but i dident add any ssh accounts before i went to sleep ) | 07:21 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: fair enough, i havent done anything today needing it | 07:21 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: give me a few minutes and i'll have it almost ready | 07:21 |
| Hobbsee | and i finally got the scripts on stevenk's machine sorted out, so that's usuable too | 07:21 |
| imbrandon | heh | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | i have work soon | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | and then i get days off! | 07:22 |
| imbrandon | cool | 07:22 |
| imbrandon | i changed the name this time too | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | what to? | 07:22 |
| imbrandon | same computer just a new name , voyager was getting old | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 07:22 |
| imbrandon | horatio | 07:24 |
| imbrandon | is the new name sorry gropped the mouse | 07:24 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 07:24 |
| imbrandon | like i said though exact same computer justa new name ( and a fresh install ) | 07:25 |
| imbrandon | ugh ok, time for a shower and such , brb | 07:26 |
| freeflying | hi Hobbsee imbrandon | 07:28 |
| Hobbsee | hey freeflying | 07:28 |
| === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | heya freeflying | 07:40 |
| imbrandon | moins raphink | 07:40 |
| Jucato | aw.. Hobbsee's gone... :) | 07:41 |
| Jucato | hi imbrandon! | 07:41 |
| imbrandon | elllo | 07:41 |
| raphink | hi imbrandon | 07:41 |
| raphink | && Jucato | 07:41 |
| Jucato | hi raphink! :) | 07:41 |
| === Jucato wonders if we'll ever get past "hi" at this rate | ||
| raphink | #ubuntu-ph .... | 07:42 |
| === raphink wonders what language is ph | ||
| raphink | hmmmm | 07:42 |
| Jucato | Philippines | 07:43 |
| raphink | ooh! | 07:43 |
| raphink | ok :) | 07:43 |
| Jucato | :) | 07:43 |
| raphink | I was 1000 miles away from that ;) | 07:43 |
| raphink | your name sounds rather Spanish | 07:43 |
| Jucato | heh yeah | 07:44 |
| Jucato | but I look Chinese :P | 07:44 |
| raphink | hehe | 07:44 |
| Jucato | (or Japanese, or Korean, depends on the person saying it...) | 07:44 |
| raphink | hehe | 07:44 |
| crimsun | I'm pretty sure you look like "Jucato". | 07:44 |
| Jucato | hah | 07:44 |
| raphink | well Chinese, Japanese and Korean look very different | 07:44 |
| Jucato | that's for sure :) | 07:44 |
| raphink | crimsun: very good point :) | 07:44 |
| Jucato | well, some Filpino-Chinese people think I'm Chinese, and some Korean students thought I was one of them | 07:45 |
| Jucato | and someone who worked in Japan said I could be mistaken for a Japanese... | 07:45 |
| raphink | ah | 07:46 |
| _Sime_ | If/when Tonio shows up here, can someone tell him that the KDE media patches wiki page is updated. | 08:36 |
| _Sime_ | with new patches that is. | 08:37 |
| Jucato | sure :) | 08:37 |
| === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4875A.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-28-146.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.248] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === hunger_ [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-219-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-28-146.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| sebas | Is someone going to package the new gwenview? | 11:25 |
| sebas | It looks quite interesting ... | 11:26 |
| sebas | http://gwenview.sourceforge.net/ | 11:26 |
| Jucato | I think nixternal will? | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | sebas: i can look at it | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | moins | 11:27 |
| Jucato | hi imbrandon! :) | 11:27 |
| Jucato | video support?? | 11:28 |
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | looks like its just some maint stuff compaired to what we have, woner if its woth the uvf ? /me looks a little more | 11:30 |
| === Jucato still doesn't understand the trend of image viewers supporting video viewing... | ||
| === Tonio__ [n=tonio@211.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | Tonio__: _Sime_ has some new stufff for you on the wiki | 11:33 |
| Tonio__ | yo$ | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: great | 11:33 |
| Jucato | :) | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | i would have done it but i dident know if you had other kdebase uploads | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I'm uploading everything | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: kdebase_3.5.4_sime_kio_v4.diff , 404, error.... | 11:38 |
| === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@134.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| zorglu_ | some tools keep dumping their debug log on the tty (e.g. kate with the ScimInputContextPlugin() and kate), is this a bug being worked on ? or just the coder forgot to remove its debug before releasing ? | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | afaik thats standard for gui apps run from tty to dump info | 11:45 |
| Riddell | zorglu_: the ScimInputContextPlugin is from qt's scim patch I'd guess, if you want to track it down that would be great | 11:45 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: it seems to be common in kde apps for some reason but it's not desirable | 11:45 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: how about the Bad Device errors? | 11:45 |
| Riddell | Jucato: that's qt talking to X, there's not much can be done about that | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: thats becouse you have unused devices in your xorg.conf | 11:46 |
| zorglu_ | it's not desirable <- i definitly agree, as it is uselessly scray for the user | 11:46 |
| zorglu_ | scary i meant | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:46 |
| Jucato | yes, wacom entries that are put there by the default installation | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: yes delete those and it go's away ;) | 11:46 |
| Jucato | heh yeah :) | 11:47 |
| Jucato | people still panic about it though... | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | yea, uneededly but yea | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | imho debconf should be smart enough not to put those in if not needed but i stay away from X as much as possible ( code wise ) | 11:48 |
| Jucato | so there's nothing that can be done about that? making it less scary? :P | 11:48 |
| Jucato | question: why does xorg.conf have wacom entries even if you don't have one? isn't it set during installation? | 11:49 |
| imbrandon | something can always be done ;) its just a matter of what ;) | 11:49 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: there is one patch that I can't download.... we need to wait for _Sime_ | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: yea the default config includes them so laptops with wacom pointers work ootb | 11:50 |
| Jucato | aaah | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: ok , i was just passing along the message | 11:50 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: sure ;) | 11:50 |
| Riddell | ah, silly scim debugging is in scim-qtimm | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: you want to file a uvf for gwenview 1.4.0 since you touched it last , or ..... | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hum, new stable release ? | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | yea | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | great, will do thanks | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | http://gwenview.sourceforge.net/ | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I will ping pitti for digikam too | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: you have digicam listed twice on the MIR queue page too ( not that it really matters ) | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: ah ? | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | yes, I know | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | for has been rejected due to dependancies in universe | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | no i mean its listed two times in the unreviewed section | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | at the top and bottom of the list | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | err top and third from the bottom | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: can't download gwenview | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | tarball is dead on upstream website....... | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | what a horrible morning........ | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | hum i just grabbed it, its sf.net prdownload site | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | ah in sourceforge :) | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | yea http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gwenview/gwenview-1.4.0.tar.bz2 | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: i hope you ment a UVFe not a MIR for gwenview | 12:10 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:10 |
| === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | packages for gwenview would help us to review if it's stable | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have the package | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: wanna test the deb ? | 12:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: please | 12:21 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: which patch can't you d/l? | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: kio v4 | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, imbrandon: http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/gwenview_1.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | wget http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/gwenview_1.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | gah | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hu ? | 12:23 |
| Jucato | :) | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | wrong konsole window | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: have access to my ftp now ? :) | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | ah oki ;) | 12:24 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: fixed | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gwenview/+bug/61038 | 12:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61038 in gwenview "1.3.92b -> 1.4.0 UVF Exception Request" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | done | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: thanks ;) | 12:26 |
| imbrandon | hrm _Sime_ does the "file -> open" kde dialog honur the .hidden ? | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | or is it just gwenviews file _. open | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | s/_./->/g | 12:27 |
| Riddell | uses kmplayer, funky | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: great, I'm building and if that's okay, uploading | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | hrm i only get a blue screen when trying to play video but i'm gessing its a codec thing | 12:31 |
| _Sime_ | cool | 12:31 |
| imbrandon | i probably dont have all my codecs reinstalled yet | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I changed the wikipage | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | I really have issues with mysql on dapper....... | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | 5959 mysql 15 0 112m 23m 4296 S 54.9 2.4 17:20.46 mysqld | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | 55% cpu usage average.... | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | wow | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | i never pay attn to how much cpu it eats up on my server ( dapper ) | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I tested my website, but that doesn't seem to be the cause | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | I'm going to 90% without any mysql process running.... | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I'll probably try a backport | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: talking about that, we should backport flashplayer to dapper, since current package fails.... | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | hrm are you going by top? i can look at mine real fast | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: url has changed so it cannot download it again | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: yea its been requested afaik, if not i'll do it here in a sec | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yeah using top | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: here is top running on my dapper server , dosent seem to be a problem there ( apt-mirror , imap , and rsync all take more cpu ) http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss100.png | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yeah.... | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | I suspect a mysql bug on certain query.... | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: kickermedia fails to apply, I'm rebuilding your patch | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: looks like a part of your patch is reversed ;) | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | the Makefile.in part | 12:49 |
| === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@134.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] | ||
| ajmitch | Tonio_: wasn't there already a UVF request filed? | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | bug 60997 | 12:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60997 in gwenview "UVF - New Upstream Release" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60997 | 12:57 |
| Riddell | we've very thorough | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | obviously | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch: argh ! I missed this one | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | it would be nice if people asking for UVF would ping us ;) | 01:01 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:01 |
| Riddell | well it's nixternal | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah okay | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch: sorry for this... | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: looks like we've done wrong this time :) | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | yea probably should have searched LP | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yup.... and I should have checked after you asked me to write it... | 01:04 |
| imbrandon | welp just mark one a dupe and we'll know better , make sure and tell mdz/kamoin in the email one is a dupe | 01:04 |
| imbrandon | hrm anyone know who Burdick, Perry pburdick@mccanntech.org is | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: can you do it ? I'm on _Sime_'s patch since I have to rebuild them.... | 01:05 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: sure | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | Tonio_: well it was discussed in here earlier :) | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | okie all fixed up | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | Tonio_: no need to apologise to me, I just spotted the duplicate in #u-bugs | 01:14 |
| === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549567F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | hrm i wish pburdick@mccanntech.org was on irc , guess i'll email them | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | lo kwwii_ | 01:14 |
| kwwii_ | moin imbrandon | 01:14 |
| imbrandon | anyone wanna sponsor kubunturocks.com ( just the purchace of the dmain its self not hosting ) so I can setup a free jabber service on it ? hehe | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | domain* | 01:17 |
| === Tonio___ [n=tonio@211.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-28-105.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@211.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I'm sorry but I can't apply your patches... | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: they seem to conflict with other ones we already have... | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: things are reverted sometimes.... | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: ping me when you're available so that I'm resuming the problem | 01:34 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: what do you want to do about the last icon on the ksplash? | 01:36 |
| Jucato | do the input fields/labels in the login screen look a bit off-center? | 01:37 |
| === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii_ | Riddell: well, either move it up in line with the rest or make it a bit bigger so that it stands out at the bottom more | 01:37 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: why are the new window buttons not in kwin-crystal...are they in a diffferent package? | 01:38 |
| kwwii_ | Jucato: they should be at the 50% point | 01:38 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: they are, they're in the patch in debian/patches | 01:39 |
| Riddell | which is uuencoded | 01:39 |
| Jucato | kwwii_: maybe just an effect of having a bigger space between the menu button and the input fields than between the enter button and the input fields? | 01:39 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: so when I apt-get the sources how can I get them? | 01:39 |
| kwwii_ | Jucato: could be | 01:40 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: make -f debian/rules apply-patches | 01:41 |
| Riddell | should make them appear | 01:41 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, no rule to make target | 01:42 |
| kwwii_ | I have my old versions, I can copy over the really old ones | 01:43 |
| freeflying | Riddell: did you upload scim-qtimm? it was rejacted | 01:43 |
| kwwii_ | I just wanted to do this the right way | 01:43 |
| Jucato | kwwii_: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/jucato/screenshots/login.png | 01:43 |
| kwwii_ | Jucato: guess I should move the enter key 5 pixels to the right | 01:44 |
| Riddell | oh, it's not cdbs | 01:44 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: make -f debian/rules config.status | 01:44 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I did | 01:44 |
| Riddell | freeflying: oops, uploaded to dapper | 01:45 |
| freeflying | :) | 01:45 |
| Riddell | re-uploaded to edgy | 01:46 |
| kwwii_ | ok, so which package is uudecode in? (not uudeview) | 01:48 |
| imbrandon | kwwii_: sharutils | 01:49 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: sharutils | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:50 |
| kwwii_ | oh, man...this is too much work... | 01:51 |
| kwwii_ | make: dh_testdir: Command not found | 01:51 |
| imbrandon | kwwii_: sudo apt-get build-dep <package-with-artwork> | 01:51 |
| imbrandon | it will grab everything you need to do that | 01:51 |
| imbrandon | but thats in build-essential / devscripts ( you'll probably want those working with packages ) | 01:52 |
| kwwii_ | I installed build-essential | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | install devscripts | 01:53 |
| kwwii_ | but doing this for kwin-style-crystal installs 58 other packages | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | oh wow | 01:53 |
| Tm_T | =) | 01:53 |
| kwwii_ | I mean, I wanted to change a few buttons is all :-) | 01:53 |
| kwwii_ | I am sure we would make this harder yet | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | heheh welcome to our world, just teasin, hold on lemme see if i can grab just the images and put them on ftp for ya | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | you want the images from kwin-style-crystal is all ? | 01:54 |
| kwwii_ | I have it now | 01:54 |
| kwwii_ | thanks anyway | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | hehe okies | 01:55 |
| === imbrandon go's to grab another mt dew | ||
| kwwii_ | hehe, mark is now doing conf calls with the ubuntu art people to get the work done | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | wow | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | something wasent getting done ? | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | :O | 01:58 |
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-3-211.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii_ | so...now that I applied that patch, someone tell me what the .rej files are for? | 02:01 |
| kwwii_ | the .orig seem to be the new ones, the normal file names the old ones | 02:01 |
| Tm_T | rej file contains stuff that didn't apply iirc | 02:02 |
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-48-242.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | kwwii_: it should just apply cleanly | 02:05 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: unless you've already changed the fie | 02:06 |
| Riddell | files | 02:06 |
| \sh | Riddell: short update why python-qt3 is not installable? I'm too lazy to check now ;) | 02:06 |
| Riddell | \sh: seems installed to me | 02:06 |
| Riddell | who says it's not installable? | 02:06 |
| \sh | Riddell: forget about it...kubuntu-desktop wasn't installable last friday...and amarok and python-qt3 was removed automagically from dist-upgrade...now it's installable agan | 02:09 |
| \sh | moins btw | 02:11 |
| Riddell | moin moin | 02:12 |
| kwwii_ | hi \sh | 02:16 |
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@137.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | re | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | my internet connection sucks today... | 02:19 |
| === apokryphos- [n=apokryph@host-87-74-49-92.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos_ [n=apokryph@host-87-74-34-128.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | ok, kubuntu-default-setting and ksplash should be all sorted now | 02:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: cool, you repatched it ? | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | woot | 02:26 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: rocking :) | 02:26 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: thanks :-) | 02:26 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| imbrandon | lo Hobbsee | 02:28 |
| === Hobbsee attacks the customer from hell with a long pointy stick. | ||
| === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | err, what happened to katapult in kde svn? | 02:30 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: nooo stick, you cruel! | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | i ate it, i was hungry. | 02:30 |
| Jucato | hi Hobbsee! | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: the woman deserves it. | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato | 02:30 |
| Tm_T | =) | 02:30 |
| === Hobbsee had a pretty bad shift at work. | ||
| Tm_T | what woman | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | hence the bad mood | 02:31 |
| === Jucato sees the whip... | ||
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: an idiot that thought she coudl come in 5 mins before close, get a full trolley of stuff, and expect the store stay open for her. there's another supermarket about 100 m away, in the same shopping complex, open for another 2 hours. | 02:31 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: =) | 02:32 |
| Jucato | foolish mortal... :P | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: is it messed up ? | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | ( katapult ) | 02:32 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: no found it | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 02:32 |
| Riddell | was looking in playground, it's in extragear | 02:32 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: you mean meatbag | 02:32 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | ho concerning the kapatult/amarok were you able to reproduce ? | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | heh that sounds normal to me ( leaste arround here ) but what isnt normal is two suppermarkets 100m from each other ? | 02:34 |
| === mbiebl [n=michael@tecov6131.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | mez confirms the issue but it works here, so I don't understand | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. i'm not quite sure why they did that. oh, there's another supermarket right next to the other one | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | unless I missed what the real problem is | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: works here too i dunno what mez was taking aobut | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | as in, not opposite to us | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: maybe scanning amaroks database and not launching mp3's | 02:35 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: if you try to play some music in Amarok by searching/launching it from Katapult? | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: yea works for me(tm) | 02:35 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: yes.... | 02:35 |
| Jucato | ... | 02:35 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: that should be impossible according to mez but it works here.... | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | me also and i'm on a fresh install | 02:36 |
| Jucato | fresh Dapper? | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | edgy | 02:36 |
| Jucato | ah.. hm.. | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | dapper? we dont need no stinking dapper | 02:36 |
| === Jucato launches VMWare | ||
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:36 |
| Tm_T | =) | 02:36 |
| Jucato | er.. it was running on another desktop already :P | 02:36 |
| === imbrandon hasent been on dapper in /months/ | ||
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I'm completly lost with sime's patches.... | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: i can do them if you want , i did the last few | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | certain parts are reversed | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: you will have the same issue :) | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | certain parts are reversed ? | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | the latest patch cannot by applied simply because half of the patch is already in kde tarball... | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yes | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | - instead of + etc.... | 02:38 |
| Tonio_ | but not for the all patch | 02:38 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I assume he didn't diff from the tarball but from an already patches one | 02:38 |
| imbrandon | hrm he is using dapper to do all this afaik so we might have to modify it a bit | 02:38 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I'll make a point with him toonight | 02:38 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yes but dapper 3.5.4 is the same that edgy ;) | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | except patches, but that's not patches conflict | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I'm talking about the orig | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | right | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: an example : | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | in kdesktop/Makefile.in : | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | GMSGFMT = @GMSGFMT@ | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | +GREP = @GREP@ | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | HALBACKEND = @HALBACKEND@ | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | he adds this... | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | then : | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | GMSGFMT = @GMSGFMT@ | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | +GREP = @GREP@ | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | HALBACKEND = @HALBACKEND@ | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | that's from the orig tarball | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | oups, sorry, repasting : | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~/Desktop/kdebase/kdebase-3.5.4/kdesktop$ grep -d recurse GREP ./Makefile.in | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | EGREP = @EGREP@ | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | GREP = @GREP@ | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | PACKAGE_BUGREPORT = @PACKAGE_BUGREPORT@ | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | so the patch is wrong... | 02:41 |
| Jucato | hm.. so strange.. katapult/amarok problem still happens on an almost fresh install of Edgy (on VMWare) | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | soo umm hrm | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: maybe the issue is database scanning, not file launching.... | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | so because I had a working database before, it still works... | 02:41 |
| Jucato | hmm.... | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: agreed that there is an issue here ? ;) | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: could be reversed patch, but no, since there are other parts of the patch for the same file that are valid... | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: that's why I think he missed something | 02:42 |
| === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | Tonio_: yea , i'm about to lay down for a nap, i'll grab the patches and the current source and see if i can figure out what he was doing, if not we'll talk to him tonight | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: kio v4 is valid | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: kicker media is valid except a reversed section, I have fixed this... | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: the new patch is crappy, here is the point | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | k | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | but concerning the reversed section I'm not sure if we have to reverse it or remove it... | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | can be both in fact, depending on what the error was when he did the patch | 02:44 |
| imbrandon | we might have to convince him to upgrade to edgy and debdiff the cahnges ;) | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hehe indeed | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: he can simply grab the edgy source package and provide the patches himself | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: no need for edgy to work on it.... | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | or a chroot but afaik he does it on his running system then makes the patches | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | anyhow i'm gonna laydown for a nap, back in a few hours , i'll get on the lappy for a bit and look brb | 02:46 |
| === Tonio___ [n=tonio@137.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Daniloc [n=kvirc@212.200.77.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio___ | WOW : http://benheck.com/Games/Xbox360/x360_page_5.htm | 03:22 |
| Tonio___ | amazing what this guy did | 03:22 |
| jjesse | that is awesome, i saw it earlier on slashdot or something and was really impressed. | 03:24 |
| jjesse | wish they sold them ;) | 03:24 |
| Jucato | whoa... | 03:24 |
| === jdong whacks Hobbsee in the head in the comfort of #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | jdong: i'm still laughing. | 03:27 |
| === jdong will never waste his time testing Ubiquity again :) | ||
| Hobbsee | that's the quote of the night. | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | nah, just file a bug as requested, what's the problem? | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | you asked a silly question, and got the answer you deserved. | 03:27 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: it wouldn't be the first time ubiquity was broken on an install cd :) | 03:28 |
| jdong | ahem, every single Dapper testing cd | 03:28 |
| jdong | :) | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: well, true, but when it's the way they're pushing everyone to install off it | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | or most to | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | i'd imagine that was something in your system | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | it works for a whole lot of people - those of you who it doesnt, you need to file a bug :P | 03:28 |
| jdong | a hairball :) | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:28 |
| jdong | *sigh*, that means I need to walk down to my basement | 03:29 |
| === jdong postpones task until painkillers kick in | ||
| Hobbsee | you mean you came out of your basement? | 03:29 |
| jdong | two flights of stairs is a bit too much for me to handle right now... | 03:29 |
| jdong | and plus, my torrent of mythbusters just finished | 03:29 |
| jdong | bye bye, suckers! | 03:30 |
| jdong | :) | 03:30 |
| Daniloc | :) | 03:30 |
| jdong | and oh by the way, I had to backport Ktorrent 2.0.2 to edgy so the damn download wouldn't lock up | 03:30 |
| jdong | and I'm not in the mood for dealing with kamion again today | 03:30 |
| jdong | so someone please poke him to let that UVF through | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | you had to backport it to edgy, or to dapper | 03:31 |
| jdong | edgy | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | if you had to backport it to edgy, what did you backport from? *g* | 03:31 |
| === Hobbsee ducks | ||
| jdong | upstream :) | 03:31 |
| jdong | there's a UVF for ktorrent 2.0.2 sitting in launchpad idle for weeks now | 03:31 |
| jdong | bug #58139 | 03:32 |
| Ubug2 | Malone bug 58139 in ktorrent "UVF exception request ktorrent 2.0.1 -> 2.0.2" [Low,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58139 | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:33 |
| === jdong courageously poked kamion | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:34 |
| === jdong awaits his angry wrath | ||
| Hobbsee | kamion's never tried to eat me | 03:34 |
| === Jucato just observed that people on freenode love to poke people :) | ||
| jdong | he typically doesn't swallow me whole | 03:34 |
| === Hobbsee wonders about Jucato's statement. | ||
| === Jucato tries to poke himself, since he has no one else to poke... | ||
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: ping | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | hey _Sime_ | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hey ;) | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: probably better go in private making a point on those patches :) | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | you're about to get yelled at, it seems :P | 03:36 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:36 |
| jjesse | sounds like someone is in trouble +* | 03:36 |
| === Jucato doesn't want to be a motu anymore :) | ||
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I /msg you the situation | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: whyever not? | 03:39 |
| === hunger_ [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| _Sime_ | I see that. | 03:39 |
| _Sime_ | wait a sec | 03:39 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: coz I'm too young to be eaten :P | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: _Sime_'s not a MOTU> | 03:39 |
| Jucato | ooh... aaah... :) | 03:39 |
| jdong | Jucato: ooh, you can join backports, which is where people who don't want to MOTU go! | 03:39 |
| === jdong ducks | ||
| Hobbsee | lol | 03:40 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:40 |
| === imbrandon kicks jdong | ||
| jdong | imbrandon: aren't you supposed to be napping? :P | 03:40 |
| === Jucato thinks he saw Hobbsee ready her whip... | ||
| === jdong kicks imbrandon back for his outdated ktorrent | ||
| Hobbsee | heh, no, i was just laughing | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | and my whip is always ready. | 03:40 |
| imbrandon | jdong: that wouldent be good , as the quality of the requests would deminish farther than it alrady is | 03:40 |
| === Jucato kicks himself because he can't kick anyone else :) | ||
| === Hobbsee kicks Jucato | ||
| jdong | kicking party? | 03:41 |
| Jucato | wee! my first kick! | 03:41 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:41 |
| Jucato | hm.. | 03:41 |
| === Jucato kicks abattoir | ||
| Jucato | >:) | 03:41 |
| abattoir | wth? | 03:41 |
| Jucato | yay! someone I could kick! | 03:41 |
| === jdong quietly steps away to get breakfast | ||
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: I assume that the kdebase.3.5.4.orig.tar.gz never changes. | 03:42 |
| jdong | suddenly the maturity in this room drops to #ubuntuforums | 03:42 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: correct | 03:42 |
| === jdong hopes nobody from there is listening | ||
| Jucato | jdong: sssh! don't say the magic word in front of imbrandon :P | 03:42 |
| jdong | Jucato: that's still an IRC channel | 03:42 |
| jdong | that ironically we are not affiliated with | 03:42 |
| Jucato | ?? | 03:42 |
| jdong | #ubuntuforums is an IRC channel | 03:42 |
| Jucato | ok now that's just confusing and weird... | 03:42 |
| abattoir | Riddell: Kamion has uploaded 1.3(which fixes a bug in oem-config, and has kde-ui as a default option), i'll try the next build available | 03:42 |
| jdong | Jucato: I know. and it's costing the real forums in reputation, too | 03:43 |
| Riddell | abattoir: great | 03:43 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hehe yes :) | 03:43 |
| === jdong REALLY leaves to watch mythbusters and eat breakfast this time | ||
| Jucato | heh. well I do see some names from #ubuntuforums that are also on the forums | 03:43 |
| jdong | Jucato: yeah, there are some people who overlap | 03:43 |
| Jucato | (like you) | 03:44 |
| jdong | some of the mods in the channel are also ops | 03:44 |
| === imbrandon points the j* to -offtopic | ||
| === Jucato whistles... | ||
| === jdong is now known as _jdong | ||
| === _jdong whistles | ||
| === Hobbsee points *j* to -offtopic | ||
| _jdong | :) | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 03:45 |
| === _jdong is now known as jdong | ||
| jdong | k, an on-topic question, what's up with hotpluggable media handling recently in edgy? | 03:45 |
| jdong | it's worse than it was in dapper, IMO | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | thats helpfull .... | 03:46 |
| Riddell | jdong: we're testing some patches from _Sime_ | 03:46 |
| jdong | imbrandon: I'm just stating my opinion, not trying to flame anyone or cause offense | 03:46 |
| jdong | the unmount progress dialog is gone | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | no no i mean whats wrong with it , other then "its broke" , dident say you was flamin | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:47 |
| jdong | and there's no more media:/ to watch all the mount points | 03:47 |
| jdong | imbrandon: if you give me a second to type ;) | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | its /media | 03:47 |
| jdong | imbrandon: /media does not show unmounted media | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | same options as media:/ | 03:47 |
| Jucato | jdong: it does | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | it does if there is mount points | 03:47 |
| jdong | imbrandon: insert a USB stick, hit cancel on the popup dialog (to bypass mounting). | 03:47 |
| Jucato | it shows a different icon for unmounted media | 03:47 |
| jdong | it does NOT show my usb stick | 03:47 |
| jdong | it shows a regular folder for usbdisk | 03:48 |
| jdong | clicking it does not mount it | 03:48 |
| jdong | and right click does not have any mount options | 03:48 |
| jdong | I have to mount it from the initial pop-up dialog | 03:48 |
| jdong | or it will not show up in /media | 03:48 |
| jdong | same goes for optical media | 03:49 |
| imbrandon | write it up on /KubuntuKDEMedia then what the behavure is and the expected behavure with the new patches is | 03:49 |
| Jucato | hm... optical media shows up fine here | 03:49 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I have to go for 30 minutes | 03:49 |
| === Riddell changes k-d-s to install the .hidden files | ||
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: ok, I'll remake this patch for this evening. | 03:49 |
| === jdong waits for wiki page to load | ||
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: great | 03:49 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: they dident before ? | 03:49 |
| Riddell | no | 03:49 |
| imbrandon | ouch | 03:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: which files ? | 03:50 |
| === imbrandon could have swore they did unless someone changed it | ||
| Jucato | Riddell: in Knot 3, linux-headers-386 is installed by default, rather than linux-headers-generic? | 03:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: /.hidden /media/.hidden | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah... indeed | 03:51 |
| abattoir | Jucato: i think there has been a change in the kernel naming procedure(and the variants available)... not sure though | 03:51 |
| Riddell | Jucato: seems so | 03:51 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell: what are you hiding? | 03:51 |
| _Sime_ | the link | 03:51 |
| === Hobbsee emails her maths teacher asking to let her be lazy. | ||
| jdong | Jucato: l-h-386 will pull in generic, right? | 03:52 |
| Jucato | jdong: no | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | _Sime_: they are your .hidden files | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | jdong: no | 03:52 |
| Jucato | l-h-386 pulls in l-h-2.6.17-7-386 | 03:52 |
| jdong | oh wow, we actually have a 386 kernel | 03:52 |
| jdong | I thought we kissed that sucker goodbye :P | 03:52 |
| Jucato | so did I :) | 03:52 |
| Jucato | transition phase probably | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | the transition isnt complete it doesnt look like | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | nothing to see here move along | 03:53 |
| jdong | oh speaking of that, anyone knows how to turn off SMP at bootup? | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:53 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | jdong: ask in -kernel and why would you want to ? | 03:53 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23882 | 03:53 |
| jdong | imbrandon: sadly there are some drivers that still barf when SMP is on :( | 03:53 |
| jdong | *cough* Ralink rt2x00 | 03:54 |
| jdong | and in choosing between kernel panic or losing half your processing power.... | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ./Makefile: install -m644 kde-hidden/hidden-media "$(DESTDIR)/media/.hidden" | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is there something wrong there ? | 03:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: nope, but the files aren't in the .install file | 03:54 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell: cool | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 03:55 |
| Hawkwind | I just did an update to my system and it updated clamav stuff and I got all this stuff, can someone tell me what it means and if it's something wrong with my system or the package itself: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/110 | 03:59 |
| Riddell | something debconf related is broken | 04:00 |
| Riddell | no idea what | 04:00 |
| Hawkwind | As in something on my system, or within the package that got installed ? | 04:02 |
| === jdong|laptop [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| jdong|laptop | *blink* | 04:03 |
| jdong|laptop | I swear....... ubiquity died yesterday when I clicked on it....... | 04:03 |
| === jdong|laptop bangs head | ||
| jdong|laptop | see, Hobbsee, this is why I *asked* before making a useless LP ticket :) | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | ticket or bug? | 04:04 |
| jdong|laptop | bug, ticket, same thing :) | 04:04 |
| jdong|laptop | hell this whole laptop is a bug | 04:04 |
| jdong|laptop | it's not supposed to be able to boot AMD64 livecd's :) | 04:04 |
| jdong|laptop | but don't tell anyone I said that | 04:05 |
| jdong|laptop | shhhhhh | 04:05 |
| === jdong|laptop is a collector of anomalies | ||
| jdong|laptop | where do /media bug reports go under? | 04:07 |
| jdong|laptop | I got a screenshot showing a USB stick unmounted on my desktop, but not showing up in /media | 04:07 |
| Riddell | Jucato: /KubuntuKDEMedia | 04:08 |
| jdong|laptop | k, on the wiki? | 04:08 |
| imbrandon | jdong: thats not really a bug but an implmentation request / wiki | 04:08 |
| jdong|laptop | SOLVED: (Simon Edwards 13-8-2006) HAL doesn't send the mount point info for unmounted partitions. This stops unmounted mount points from being matched with their meta-data. (Simon Edwards 22-8-2006) . Solved in version 2 of the patches. | 04:09 |
| imbrandon | jdong: fyi i was just talking to celso , seems the backport fix for soyuz will drop this week , its up for revu now | 04:09 |
| jdong|laptop | does that sound like what I'm reporting? | 04:09 |
| jdong|laptop | imbrandon: excellent :) | 04:10 |
| imbrandon | jdong|laptop: not really i dont think | 04:10 |
| jdong|laptop | hmm, where on that page would I add feedback? | 04:10 |
| imbrandon | add a feedback section at the bottom just above the patches section i would say | 04:11 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: You ever get a chance to look at that email/bug I sent you ? | 04:11 |
| jdong|laptop | imbrandon: ok, I'll do that, but if doc team hunts me down I'll give them your address instead :) | 04:11 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind: yea , i poke someone else about it, i'll email you the details in a bit | 04:11 |
| imbrandon | jdong|laptop: wth does the doc team have to do with it ? heh | 04:11 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Many thanks | 04:11 |
| imbrandon | poked* | 04:12 |
| jdong|laptop | imbrandon: we've had run-ins with doc team regarding not following the ubuntu wiki page guidelines or stuff like that | 04:12 |
| jdong|laptop | doesn't doc team police the wiki? | 04:12 |
| imbrandon | only if its part of the help doc's | 04:13 |
| imbrandon | and that is not, we ( as in the KDE team ) police that page | 04:13 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:13 |
| jdong|laptop | cool, that makes me feel better already | 04:13 |
| === jdong|laptop proceeds to prove he sucks at MoinMoin markup | ||
| imbrandon | e.g the doc teams domain is help.ubuntu.com/community | 04:14 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: did you end up packaging gwenview? i did it last night and placed it on revu and did the UVF for it as well | 04:14 |
| imbrandon | even then its a community effert ;) thus a wiki | 04:15 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: we seen the uvf , Tonio_ ( the last one to tuch it did also ) | 04:15 |
| nixternal | k | 04:15 |
| imbrandon | for future ref you might poke the last person to touch a package ;) | 04:15 |
| imbrandon | just so we dont dupe efferts ;) | 04:16 |
| nixternal | roger that | 04:16 |
| imbrandon | but yea work with Tonio_ on that one, hes da man | 04:16 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: hey | 04:16 |
| Tonio_ | yes, we duplicated our work | 04:16 |
| nixternal | sorry about that | 04:17 |
| imbrandon | no worries, you live and learn ;) | 04:17 |
| imbrandon | just for future ref | 04:17 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: well you did it before, I should have checked launchpad too... | 04:18 |
| === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | heh. i thought i was staying out of the newsletter this week. | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | toma should have been credited, not me | 04:19 |
| === imbrandon hasent read it yet | ||
| imbrandon | well i did on gobby when i was editing it but not the finished thing | 04:20 |
| jdong|laptop | ooh, UWN is out? | 04:20 |
| === jdong|laptop rushes back to wiki | ||
| imbrandon | holy bejesus i'm in it tooo, i dident see that /me hides | 04:22 |
| imbrandon | and for a non-kde project no less, man-o-man | 04:22 |
| imbrandon | lol | 04:22 |
| === jdong|laptop begins worshipping imbrandon for his mythtv packages | ||
| === Jucato wonders why jdong|laptop hasn't worshipped imbrandon from the very beginning... | ||
| jdong|laptop | Jucato: too much worship isn't healthy | 04:24 |
| Jucato | sez who? heh :) | 04:24 |
| jdong|laptop | lol, I see the space bar bug got coverage | 04:25 |
| imbrandon | hahah i got in for amarok 1.4.3 and core-dev also , jez 3 mentions in one news letter, that has to be a record | 04:28 |
| === jdong|laptop chuckles | ||
| jdong|laptop | "A new medium has been detected" | 04:29 |
| jdong|laptop | doesn't that sound somewhat psychic? | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | /win 36 | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | err | 04:30 |
| Riddell | anyone want to package scribus 1.2.5 and see if we can get an UVFe? | 04:33 |
| Riddell | it's already in debian, just needs ubuntu changes re-applied | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: if someone dosent get to it before i get up from my nap i can try | 04:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, let's go :) | 04:34 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: want to do it ? | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: dosent matter to me, i can , i just wanna sleep first heheh | 04:35 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: so I'm doing it :) | 04:35 |
| imbrandon | okies ;) | 04:35 |
| kwwii_ | sleep is for loosers | 04:43 |
| === Jucato Googles for the definition of "sleep" | ||
| Hobbsee | bah. sleep. | 04:45 |
| === Hobbsee might do that at around 3am or so. | ||
| === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| fabo | Riddell: you don't use branch pull on kde modules ? | 05:14 |
| Riddell | fabo: no | 05:14 |
| fabo | Riddell: can i use them or you prefer to avoid ? | 05:15 |
| Riddell | fabo: in debian sure | 05:16 |
| Riddell | but if they get in the way of anything I'm doing I'll remove it :) | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | read that as "you can use them, but dont let them come anywhere near me" | 05:17 |
| Jucato | heh | 05:17 |
| Riddell | anyone on OS X? | 05:17 |
| === fabo fabo don't understand ... branch pull or not ? :) | ||
| Riddell | fabo: go ahead | 05:18 |
| fabo | in fact i want to know about kdepim dimap patch ;) | 05:18 |
| fabo | i can do a branch pull or just extract needed part ;) | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: imbrandon is | 05:19 |
| Riddell | fabo: I'd rather not have them in the kde main packages, extracting the patch from SVN is much preferable for me | 05:19 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i'm on OSX right now | 05:20 |
| fabo | Riddell: as you wish boss ;) | 05:20 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: one sec though lemme grab a soda | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | hah. another one | 05:20 |
| === Jucato though imbrandon was going to take a nap... | ||
| Riddell | imbrandon: could you visit jriddell.org | 05:21 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: i was but the laptop keeps beeping at me | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 05:21 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: in safari | 05:21 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: sure one sec | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | that's why you turn laptops *off* when trying to sleep | 05:21 |
| Jucato | hah | 05:21 |
| Jucato | or just mute the volume :P | 05:21 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: looks normal... wasup ? | 05:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: scribus building | 05:22 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: that's firefox, I'm after safari | 05:23 |
| imbrandon | hahha i never noticed your favicon.ico before | 05:23 |
| Riddell | I didn't put that there | 05:23 |
| imbrandon | ohh hrm lemme see if i have safari installed | 05:23 |
| === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | nope, ummm laserjock should be on osx too | 05:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kwwii_ might use osx too | 05:24 |
| imbrandon | or lemme find a safari download .... | 05:24 |
| imbrandon | no worries safari installing now | 05:25 |
| imbrandon | one sec | 05:25 |
| Jucato | OS X without Safari... isn't that like XP without IE? :P | 05:25 |
| jdong|laptop | Jucato: be careful! MS lawyers might be watching! | 05:26 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 05:26 |
| === jdong|laptop tries to rsync ubuntu install onto a usb external | ||
| imbrandon | Jucato: no in apple you can actualy drag apps to the trash ;) | 05:26 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm also syncking scribus-template | 05:27 |
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | hum, no need for this, no new upstream... strange | 05:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, kwwii_:just saw the new ksplash, supperb work ! | 05:28 |
| bddebian | Heya folks | 05:28 |
| Tonio_ | yop bddebian ;) | 05:28 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian! | 05:29 |
| bddebian | Hi Tonio_, Jucato | 05:29 |
| jdong|laptop | gasp! it boots! | 05:29 |
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos- [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-111.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | ok Riddell dug out my 10.4 cd's reinstalling safari now | 05:33 |
| jjesse | is the ksplash the one that you see upon startup or is that different | 05:34 |
| === jjesse trying to keep the terms different | ||
| Jucato | jjesse: ksplash is the one you see after logging in | 05:35 |
| Jucato | usplash (boot splash) is the one you see at boot (after GRUB) | 05:35 |
| jjesse | Jucato: thanks :) | 05:35 |
| Jucato | np :) | 05:35 |
| === apokryphos_ [n=apokryph@host-87-74-35-233.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hehe, just saw I removed kubuntustyle accidentally in theme.rc.... this is why I couldn't get it to work with moodin.... sorry for this... | 05:37 |
| Riddell | also moodin has a cache which is annoying for testing | 05:37 |
| === apokryp3 [n=apokryph@host-87-74-48-175.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, but I had done the only line patch so my error was that setting removed... | 05:39 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ok i'm there now with safari | 05:40 |
| Jucato | that was quick :) | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | just had to reinstall it from the cd Jucato ;) | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: something you need me to test ? | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: talking about scribus, should we upgrade scribus-ng too ? | 05:42 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: thanks, it is, of course, based on kdm | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: ;) | 05:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: can do | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay I'm finishing with scribus and doing the ng | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: concerning the usplash, did you notice it hangs at about 50% ? | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | I don't think that's linked to your theme, but it happens here at least | 05:45 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, it is different from computer to computer | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: need me to do anything special in safari ? /me stairs at the page | 05:45 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: no thanks, just stealing your user agent | 05:46 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ahh ;) | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: want me to downlaod camino for osx too ? | 05:47 |
| Jucato | imbrandon spends a few minutes to install Safari, so that Riddell could still his user agent :) | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: heheh was no biggie ;) | 05:47 |
| Jucato | of course not, it's just funny :) | 05:47 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: no thanks | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | okies | 05:48 |
| === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #kubuntu-devel [] | ||
| rouzic | imbrandon: The Knot3 is not compatible with wi-fi in a MacBook | 05:50 |
| imbrandon | rouzic: it works ootb with my ibook , i think yyou have to fiddle with it a bit for macbook | 05:50 |
| imbrandon | ask kwwii_ about the macbook ( ng stuff ) | 05:50 |
| imbrandon | rouzic: the airport works out of the box, the airport express needs a bit of config | 05:51 |
| rouzic | The command iwconfig neither recognizes me the net "ath0" with that the Airport works, nor appears in Kcontrol | 05:52 |
| === gnomefreak been gone for a while. was kde 3.5.3 backported to dapper? | ||
| Jucato | gnomefreak: nope :) | 05:52 |
| imbrandon | airport shows up as eth1 ( the orinoco driver ) | 05:52 |
| gnomefreak | thats not good :( | 05:52 |
| Jucato | I thought KDE updates would never be backported | 05:52 |
| imbrandon | ath0 is the airport extreem | 05:52 |
| gnomefreak | seems kubuntu-desktop has depends issues in dapper | 05:53 |
| Jucato | I'm sure that KDE 3.5.4 shouldn't be coz it's buggy on Dapper... | 05:53 |
| rouzic | I believe that this related to the package madwifi | 05:53 |
| gnomefreak | looks like due to backports being enabled | 05:53 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: it does? | 05:53 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: thats what i just got done helping someone with | 05:53 |
| imbrandon | 3.5.3 or 4 isnt backported | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fyi, debdiff for scribus is about 7 MB | 05:53 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: should we have nicer icons for /media and /home ? | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | don't know if mdz will accept this........ | 05:53 |
| === kwwii_ only has ppc, no macbook | ||
| gnomefreak | aptitude clears up the depends but apt-get didnt | 05:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: just send the changelog | 05:54 |
| jdong | gnomefreak: backports causes depends issues with kubuntu-desktop?? | 05:54 |
| jdong | can you confirm that? | 05:54 |
| rouzic | Imbrandon: from the Knot2 it does not recognize me the wifi, in the Knot1 if and this one me the reconocia as Ath0, like Dapper | 05:54 |
| gnomefreak | jdong: no i cant but it looks like it | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: too late.... | 05:54 |
| jdong | gnomefreak: I don't think there's anything in backports that'll contend with kubuntu-desktop -- what was the error? | 05:55 |
| gnomefreak | jdong: i gave him aptitude before i could test # out the backports | 05:55 |
| imbrandon | gnomefreak: i doubt it, its probably a locaized issue, we need to look into it more | 05:55 |
| jdong | hmm | 05:55 |
| === gnomefreak doesnt read pl | ||
| imbrandon | now there is an issue with aptitude wanting to remove 3/4 of your desktop but thats not becouse of backports | 05:56 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: the only "indirect" connections that kubuntu-desktop would probably have would be ktorrent 2.0.1 and amarok 1.4.2-.3 | 05:56 |
| gnomefreak | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23891 is the error he got | 05:56 |
| gnomefreak | it looked like kde-sys-settings was in there | 05:57 |
| gnomefreak | default* | 05:57 |
| jdong | hmm, interesting | 05:58 |
| jdong | he hasn't used any repos outside of ubuntu ones? | 05:58 |
| Jucato | hm.. interesting as well... (can't understand it...) | 05:58 |
| gnomefreak | nope not from him | 05:58 |
| jdong | Jucato: it's the kubuntu-desktop depends on FOO, but FOO will not be installed error | 05:58 |
| imbrandon | thta could be alot of thing, i doubt its backports as they are built against the orig libs | 05:58 |
| Jucato | ah | 05:58 |
| jdong | as imbrandon says, I highly doubt it's backports | 05:59 |
| gnomefreak | thats the only thing i saw that made any sense thats why i asked | 05:59 |
| imbrandon | what lang is pl ? | 05:59 |
| jdong | polish | 05:59 |
| gnomefreak | polish | 05:59 |
| === imbrandon looks for a translator | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: bug 61093 | 05:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61093 in scribus "1.2.4.1 -> 1.2.5 UVF Exception Request" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61093 | 05:59 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: ping ? | 06:04 |
| nixternal | hello | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | well i couldent translate it but i just tried it on my dapper box with backports enabled and all works fine | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | gnomefreak: so he has other issues | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: your gwenview uvfe has been approved... | 06:04 |
| nixternal | cool beans ;) | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: I can upload but I would need the source package :) | 06:05 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 06:05 |
| gnomefreak | ty imbrandon | 06:05 |
| nixternal | it is on revu as well | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: okay | 06:05 |
| nixternal | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3163 | 06:05 |
| nixternal | bbiaf...work time | 06:06 |
| === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | nixternal: uploaded | 06:07 |
| === jdong|laptop [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | gwenview 1.4 got approved? | 06:20 |
| === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.193.148] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] | ||
| === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@88.134.177.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep, by matt | 06:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not my uvfe, but nixternal's | 06:33 |
| Riddell | cool | 06:40 |
| === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === OdyX [n=Didier@170-184.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === eln [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: hi | 07:19 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: The patch was good, but might have been conflicting with some other patch. So I've reduced the number of needless diffs in Makefile.in and | 07:20 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: put the new patch up on the wiki. | 07:20 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hum, I looked at the tarball and other patches, there was no conflicts afaik | 07:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: retesting | 07:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: the 3 patches are ready ? | 07:22 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: I just fixed the wiki. The patch is now in the pending section. | 07:22 |
| _Sime_ | reload | 07:22 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: just one patch. | 07:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: and how about the media_desktop one | 07:22 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: that didn't apply? | 07:23 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: nope, this is the one that according to me is false :) | 07:23 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: ok, I'll cut down mediadesktop too. | 07:23 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: the patches are just not applying? that is the problem? | 07:23 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: concerning this one, look at the GREP addition, that's already in kdebase sources.... | 07:24 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: in fact you add several things that are already in the sources, and not added by other patches... | 07:24 |
| Tonio_ | this is what I saw at least :) | 07:24 |
| _Sime_ | I'm diffing against a clean unpacked kdebase-3.5.4.orig.tar.gz. | 07:25 |
| Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~/Desktop/kdebase$ patch -p0 <kdebase_3.5.4_sime_kickermedia_v3.diff | 07:26 |
| Tonio_ | patching file kdebase-3.5.4/kicker/applets/media/Makefile.am | 07:26 |
| Tonio_ | patching file kdebase-3.5.4/kicker/applets/media/Makefile.in | 07:26 |
| Tonio_ | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] | 07:26 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I'm not crazy, this patch is reversed :) | 07:26 |
| Tonio_ | same issue than this morning :) | 07:26 |
| Tonio_ | and on the same file, makefile.in | 07:26 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: can you clean out the source tree and just drop the new patches into the debian/patches dir? | 07:27 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: I've seen that kind of wierd behaviour too. | 07:27 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: sure, but I did previously, and I had the same problem... | 07:27 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I'm testing the build with the patch as it is | 07:27 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: it will apply a patch, and then the next time that you issue the same command, it will reverse the patch. | 07:27 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: what is in the patch error log? | 07:28 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: the problem is the issue there is on a clean source tree | 07:28 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I just apt-get source kdebase | 07:28 |
| Tonio_ | I agree if I launch twice, it will tell me the patch is reversed | 07:28 |
| === Dace [n=dace@62.142.195.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: okay I'm looking at the patch content and comparing with the sources... | 07:30 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: okay, comparing with the sources : Makefile.am is okay, but Makefile.in is the opposite of what it should be | 07:31 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: sorry for bugging you with this :) | 07:33 |
| _Sime_ | I'm apt-get source'ing | 07:33 |
| _Sime_ | apt-get source also applies patches??? | 07:33 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: no | 07:33 |
| _Sime_ | pkg-source: applying ./kdebase_3.5.4-0ubuntu20.diff.gz | 07:34 |
| _Sime_ | yes | 07:34 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: it applies the diff, not the patches | 07:34 |
| Tonio_ | you can check for any patch and compare, they are not patched in the sources | 07:35 |
| _Sime_ | HA! but that is not the same as the *.orig.tar.gz file | 07:35 |
| _Sime_ | kdebase-3.5.4_orig.tar.gz is what i've been diffing against. | 07:35 |
| _Sime_ | I'll redo that patch. | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hum, it should be the same, except the debian folder.... | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: where is the difference ? | 07:35 |
| Riddell | don't include Makefile.in in patches, but that's usually the packager's problem | 07:36 |
| _Sime_ | that big *.diff.gz patches all of the Makefile.in files (I tink. | 07:36 |
| Riddell | it does yes | 07:36 |
| === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| _Sime_ | I've got Makefile.am and Makefile.in changes, but the Makefile.ins won't be redone after the debian/patches? | 07:37 |
| _Sime_ | I don't think so | 07:37 |
| Riddell | they will | 07:37 |
| Riddell | we re-run automake/autoconf after any new patches | 07:37 |
| bddebian | Who does? :) | 07:38 |
| Riddell | that's why the .diff.gz has most of its Makefile.in's modified | 07:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, that's now cleart | 07:38 |
| Tonio_ | s/cleart/clear | 07:38 |
| _Sime_ | ok, so I'll just dike out my Makefile.in diffs. | 07:39 |
| Riddell | bddebian: we do. with make -f debian/rules buildprep | 07:40 |
| Riddell | which applys patches, runs make -f admin/Makefile.common, and removes patches | 07:40 |
| Riddell | and make -f admin/Makefile.common is KDE's way of running autoblah | 07:40 |
| _Sime_ | wiki is slow | 07:41 |
| Riddell | known problem | 07:41 |
| bddebian | Riddell: I was being sarcastic, sorry :-) | 07:42 |
| === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-242-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: ok, the kdestop patch should be good now. | 07:49 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: okay | 07:56 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: and the kickermedia too ? | 07:56 |
| === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: yeah, | 08:01 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: great eating and I upload them | 08:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hang on | 08:03 |
| === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-133.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | Tonio_: what are you uploading? | 08:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: _Sime_'s updated patches on kdebase | 08:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ok, I'm uploading kdelibs | 08:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but I'll test locally before, as always.... | 08:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: cool no problem | 08:04 |
| Riddell | so just incase you were doing kdelibs too | 08:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hehe | 08:04 |
| kwwii_ | boah, my entire day was eaten up doing the taxes for last year and applying for me "artist" status in germany :-( | 08:04 |
| kwwii_ | after that, making window buttons is fun :-) | 08:05 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ktorrent 2.0.2 uploaded ( and uvf approved ) | 08:55 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: you're the man | 08:56 |
| imbrandon | hehe i wouldent say that ;) | 08:56 |
| jdong | yay! ktorrent 2.0.2 :) | 08:58 |
| jdong | imbrandon: got a dapper pbuilder handy for closing the backports side of the ticket? | 08:59 |
| imbrandon | jdong yea i built in both at the same time | 08:59 |
| imbrandon | when i tested it | 08:59 |
| jdong | cool, did you approve the backport yet? | 09:00 |
| jdong | nvm, I'll do it | 09:00 |
| jdong | grr, that's right | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | speaking of, Riddell do you know why amarok is wanting libfam ( from universe ) with unchanged sources when build in dapper pbuilder ? | 09:00 |
| jdong | soyuz isn't ready yet :P | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | jdong: yea soyuz isnt fixed yet | 09:00 |
| === jdong bangs head some more | ||
| Riddell | imbrandon: what does it fail with? | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: its something about the konqui sidebar but it shouldent need a source change at all i wouldent think ( hasent upto now ) | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | when it tries to build the koqi sidebar it cant find labfam.la or something | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | or fam.la | 09:02 |
| Riddell | in dapper kdelibs-dev should bring in libfam | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | cant rember exactly, i'll have to start the build over and try it | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | hrm libfam is in universe ( edgy and dapper ) | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | err libfam-dev | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | lemme try it again so i can get you an exact error | 09:03 |
| Riddell | libgamin-dev rathe | 09:04 |
| imbrandon | heheh rathe somewhere other than stargate atlantis ;) | 09:06 |
| === Riddell suspects reference to popular culture | ||
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | brb more dew while this attempts to build on my poor little ibook ;) | 09:09 |
| === thefisist [n=opera@p54AA2392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === thefisist [n=opera@p54AA2392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu-devel [] | ||
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: ping ? | 09:17 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: kickermedia still fails to apply and still has makefile.in strings... | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I'm removing this part from the patch. | 09:19 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: is anything currently in the repo using cmake ? ( question in u-devel ) | 09:20 |
| === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-242-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-175.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tm_T | imbrandon: kde4 stuff? | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | Tm_T: yea , luckaly Riddell uplaoded some kde4 stuff reciently ;) | 09:33 |
| Tm_T | so, there is | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | kde4libs and kde4base , not sure about anything else | 09:34 |
| Riddell | strigi | 09:35 |
| imbrandon | ahh ;) | 09:35 |
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@137.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | man i'm working this poor ibook to death today, its compiling amarok for dapper amarok for osx/fink and kde4base for qt/mac | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | if this dont make it overheat i dunno what will | 09:37 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: this time it is okay. I'm finishing the build and upload | 09:37 |
| fdoving | imbrandon: those ibooks are hard to kill, i must say. | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | hehh yea | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | i just figured out i can cmdkey+N to swap console windows like in irssi too, its sooo nice, no need for a mouse | 09:39 |
| fdoving | Riddell: is strigi good? | 09:39 |
| nixternal | anyone got some review time on their hands? if so hit up revu and search 'nixternal'...there are a few on there..don't worry about gwenview, as it has been accepted and uploaded already ;) | 09:39 |
| Riddell | fdoving: it's promising | 09:39 |
| fdoving | Riddell: cool, i'll install and test :) | 09:41 |
| === andrunko [n=andrunko@200.184.118.132] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| imbrandon | Riddell: ok good new and bad news , heh i updated my pbuilder and all is well with amarok on dapper, bad news, well i just wasted alot of time trying to figure that out when i should have had it updated to begin with ;) | 09:57 |
| === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #kubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| danimo | imbrandon: ping? | 10:41 |
| nixternal | has there been any major changes with Ubiquity since the Dapper release? this is for the release notes installation section | 10:53 |
| kwwii_ | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 10:56 |
| kwwii_ | inkscape died | 10:56 |
| === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| danimo | kwwii_: save early, save often... ;) | 11:00 |
| === danimo ducks and runs | ||
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: ping ? | 11:03 |
| _Sime_ | hi | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: little issue (latest) with the media_desktop patch | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: it doesn't find medium.h to load | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: /tmp/buildd/kdebase-3.5.4/./kdesktop/kdiconview.cc:61:20: error: medium.h: No such file or directory | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | I assume it is just the path to fix | 11:05 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: it is probably because Makefile.in hasn't been updated from Makefile.am | 11:05 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: adding the extra path is the main reason why I had to edit makefile.am. | 11:05 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: maybe Riddell knows what the best thing to do is. | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hum....... it should update makefile.in | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: yes I can see the changes in Makefile.am | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: well I can force make -f admin/makefile.common in rules | 11:07 |
| Riddell | hmm? | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: but in theory, that should be automatic as long as Makefile.am is more recent than Makefile.in | 11:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: run it manually before building | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: so I run it and debuild -S -sa ? | 11:08 |
| Riddell | no need for -sa | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | to have the changes in diff.gz ? | 11:09 |
| Riddell | and build it locally first to make sure it works | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | yeah I know, I'm just typing this automatically :) | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | okay I can do it before, but I though it was cleaner to have it in rules....... | 11:09 |
| Riddell | not really, it only needs run once | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | yes, since that will stay in diff.gz for next updates, I assume | 11:11 |
| fabo | is it normal that i can't build kdepim because of kdelibs -> libkleopatra ? | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but what if the patch is applied during the build ? | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: then Makefile.in will not be rebuild... I think so | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no ? | 11:13 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: that's why you do buildprep | 11:24 |
| Riddell | which applies, autoconfs, unapplies | 11:24 |
| Riddell | fabo: no | 11:24 |
| Riddell | although it was rebuilt today | 11:24 |
| danimo | Riddell: what happens if you type "konversation" in minicli? | 11:25 |
| kwwii_ | so what does everyone think about the window deco, buttons, etc.? | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I understand, so that the Makefiles changes are in diff.gz | 11:27 |
| fabo | Riddell: i'm inside an edgy pbuilder up-to-date | 11:28 |
| danimo | kwwii_: nice kdm bootscreen | 11:32 |
| danimo | kwwii_: what about them? | 11:32 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: thanks:-) I was wondering if the buttons and window gradient don't look too plain | 11:33 |
| kwwii_ | I have a really glossy version ready, but not sure how to go about it | 11:34 |
| kwwii_ | I do not want to cause a big fuss about them if everyone hates it and prefers the older ones | 11:34 |
| danimo | kwwii_: did that change? I haven't restarted yet | 11:35 |
| danimo | kwwii_: what is the current colorscheme? | 11:36 |
| === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| fabo | Riddell: fixed ... a timeout during packages download ... | 11:38 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: we have an adjusted color scheme in knot3 (unless I am wrong) | 11:39 |
| Riddell | we have adjusted the colour scheme | 11:39 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: and the buttons in knot3 have not been changed (pun aside) | 11:40 |
| kwwii_ | I will post a screenshot...one second | 11:41 |
| danimo | kwwii_: odd, the colorscheme has not updated despite my recent update 5 mins ago | 11:41 |
| danimo | kwwii_: or is it still purple? :) | 11:42 |
| === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii_ | danimo: the difference is minor | 11:42 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: yes | 11:42 |
| kwwii_ | the bg is blue-purple | 11:42 |
| danimo | kwwii_: ok | 11:43 |
| danimo | kwwii_: looks better now | 11:43 |
| danimo | kwwii_: might still be too sun'ish | 11:43 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 11:44 |
| kwwii_ | sun and apple stole the good colors | 11:44 |
| kwwii_ | http://bootsplash.org/snapshot5.png | 11:45 |
| danimo | kwwii_: that's a different kind of color than I have | 11:46 |
| danimo | kwwii_: and the window deco looks different | 11:46 |
| danimo | kwwii_: what's the colors name? | 11:47 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: yes, that is the new stuff | 11:47 |
| kwwii_ | the difference is not the color of the window deco, but the overlay | 11:47 |
| kwwii_ | it makes it darker | 11:47 |
| danimo | what overlay? | 11:48 |
| kwwii_ | the overlay used in the window deco...it is the gradient that makes the 3d effect | 11:48 |
| danimo | ah | 11:48 |
| danimo | ah, there we go again | 11:48 |
| danimo | more updates! | 11:48 |
| danimo | but non for ubuntu-default-settings | 11:49 |
| === jott [n=j@unaffiliated/jott] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| danimo | kwwii_: when was the color update submitted? | 11:50 |
| danimo | kwwii_: my last update is from 14:47 | 11:51 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: dude, I did not say that you will get anything...I was saying that I wanted your opinion on the new stuff | 11:51 |
| danimo | kwwii_: aahhh, I thought it was in already :) | 11:51 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: the last change was in knot3 | 11:51 |
| danimo | kwwii_: sorry for the confusion | 11:51 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 11:51 |
| danimo | kwwii_: I like what I saw on the screenshot, at least to what I see on my laptop right now | 11:51 |
| kwwii_ | anyone else with an opinion? | 11:52 |
| danimo | kwwii_: reminds me a bit of a deco that suse had once ;) | 11:52 |
| kwwii_ | danimo: ? I made their stuff, and none of it looked this good :-) | 11:52 |
| danimo | kwwii_: yes, up until half a year ago :) | 11:53 |
| danimo | kwwii_: and first of all I am ignorant (so it might have never looked exactly that way) | 11:53 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, nothing new in the way of artwork since then | 11:53 |
| kwwii_ | well, the gloss effect is pretty typical | 11:53 |
| danimo | kwwii_: and secondly I am bad at assiciating things with dates | 11:53 |
| danimo | it looks very good | 11:54 |
| danimo | kwwii_: me likey shiny thingies ;) | 11:54 |
| danimo | kwwii_: so go for it | 11:55 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, going on one opinion | 11:59 |
| kwwii_ | yeah, I'll do that | 11:59 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 11:59 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: opinion? | 12:00 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: you? | 12:00 |
| Riddell | hmm? | 12:01 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: let me read ;) | 12:02 |
| Riddell | what are we talking about? | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like buildprep resolved the issue. thanks for the tip :) that avoids changing debian/rules ! | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: concerning the window deco, I like it like that.... | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: I don't have any proposal to improve this... | 12:04 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: like what? as it is in knot3 or as it is in the screenshot? | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: didn't look at the screenshot, I was talking about knot3 | 12:05 |
| kwwii_ | I need to know if I should update the buttons and titlebar bg to the stuff shown in the screenshot | 12:05 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | let me look at the screenshot | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: hum, screenshot is nice too....... hehe :) | 12:06 |
| Riddell | which screeshot? | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: worth testing I would say | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | http://bootsplash.org/snapshot5.png | 12:06 |
| kwwii_ | but they are two totally opposing styles, I think | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: yes, true | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: I would like to see that moving on the screen to have a final opinion | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | but it is clean too | 12:07 |
| === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@134.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any opinion ? | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: I think the idea would be to include it and ask | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | we have time to switch back if people don't like it | 12:08 |
| kwwii_ | yeah, I can always bug you guys to revert things :-) | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: exactly | 12:09 |
| Riddell | shiny | 12:09 |
| kwwii_ | yes | 12:09 |
| kwwii_ | shiny good? shiny bad? | 12:09 |
| zorglu_ | hi, i spend quite some time helping people on #kubuntu and i notice a lot of people spend time adding multiverse/universe repository in their source.list, i was wondering if it would be possible to make a .deb which automatically put universe/multiverse in the /etc/apt/source.d/ directory and thus make this very common operation eaiser to the user ? | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | shiny superb ;) | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: I agree, everyone is adding universe and multiverse.... | 12:10 |
| === kwwii_ thinks mark would like it | ||
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: but in my opinion, that shouldn't be done by a package... | 12:10 |
| zorglu_ | Tonio_: how would you make it easier for the user ? | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: in an ideal worls, that should be done by the installer | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | world | 12:11 |
| Tonio_ | "do you want to allow the installation of unsupported/non-free softwares ?" | 12:11 |
| zorglu_ | like an option 'click here to get the universe/multiverse' with a text explain what is it ? | 12:11 |
| Tonio_ | but I think canonical will never accept this :) | 12:11 |
| zorglu_ | why not ? | 12:11 |
| danimo | Tonio_: too much of a legal risk | 12:11 |
| zorglu_ | ah ok | 12:11 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
