[12:10] <zorglu_> smell like eduubuntu :)
[12:11] <DaSkreech> no I think they are anti K
[12:11] <DaSkreech> It does smell like it though
[12:16] <freewill> Sanne i had to tipe all that stuff in the boson-info but its done... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/boson-base/+bug/60974
[12:16] <visita> Hola
[12:17] <visita> ya
[12:17] <pielgrzym> could someone help me? :)
[12:17] <visita> chao
[12:17] <pielgrzym> I ca't figure out why I can't exclude directories within tar
[12:17] <pielgrzym> I use a command: tar cfp - ./* --exclude= "/proc" --exclude= "/mnt" --exclude= "/media" --exclude= "/home" --exclude= "/boot"|(cd /media/hde4; tar xvfp -)
[12:17] <freewill> hi?
[12:18] <Sanne> freewill: I think it would be very helpful if you would also link to the two screenshots with the boson error messages, because I think that's the real cause of the error.
[12:18] <DaSkreech> freewill: is a great thing
[12:19] <Sanne> freewill: I mean the two on the pastebin with the path to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules that's not there.
[12:19] <exobuzz> pielgrzym: why not just use the -X and put the excluded dirs in a file ?
[12:20] <freewill> Sanne i have tiped every thing in there that the screenshots show but the only reson why i did not put the link in there is because i was scead of it expiring
[12:21] <Sanne> freewill: oh, you typed it! Ah yes, I see now, very cool! This was very nice of you to go through all that work.
[12:22] <pielgrzym> exobuzz: didn't know it's possible ;)
[12:23] <freewill> Sanne now i need to get some sleep school tomorrow (2+ timezone) Cheers and thx for ur help...
[12:23] <Sanne> freewill: you're welcome, take care :)
[12:24] <kalagaraz> How do I take a screenshot?
[12:24] <draik> PrtScr
[12:24] <zorglu_> press the print key
[12:24] <draik> Print Screen
[12:25] <kalagaraz> hhere can I paste it?
[12:25] <draik> !paste
[12:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:25] <kalagaraz> I mean like...in a file
[12:25] <zorglu_> !info monospace
[12:25] <ubotu> Package monospace does not exist in any distro I know
[12:26] <Sanne> zorglu_: want to know which package provides monospace?
[12:28] <DaSkreech> kalagaraz: It has a Big Save button on it
[12:28] <DaSkreech>  Save it where you like how you like
[12:29] <kalagaraz> it won't let me screenshot with mouse held down
[12:29] <kalagaraz> trying to take a screenshot of the corner of cube in Xgl
[12:30] <Sanne> kalagaraz: choose capture mode: region, click new snapshot, draw region with mouse.
[12:31] <kalagaraz> I have to have mouse held down
[12:31] <kalagaraz> else the cube snaps back to place
[12:31] <Sanne> kalagaraz: oh!
[12:32] <kalagaraz> Super cool desktop and no one to share it with :(
[12:32] <kalagaraz> or no way to share it :)
[12:32] <Sanne> kalagaraz: chose full screen, setsnapshot delay to some seconds, click new snapshot, move your cube into position and wait for screenshot being made
[12:33] <octan> kalagaraz just make a new screen and set the limit to 3 sec. then you have time to this..
[12:33] <octan> kalagaraz, http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/screenshot/livebackgound.png
[12:33] <kalagaraz> hha got it
[12:33] <kalagaraz> that worked :)
[12:33] <Sanne> kalagaraz: now show :)
[12:34] <octan> kalagaraz did you follow my guid? or someone else ?
[12:35] <octan> kalagaraz, show it
[12:36] <kalagaraz> http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ka4.jpg
[12:36] <kalagaraz> :)
[12:37] <octan> now what howto did you follow ?
[12:37] <octan> :)
[12:37] <Sanne> kalagaraz: impressive :)
[12:37] <kalagaraz> one xopher gave me in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:37] <kalagaraz> I got it bookmarked one second
[12:38] <octan> gimme
[12:38] <octan> mine was for 32 bit
[12:39] <octan> i need amd64 :P
[12:39] <kalagaraz> http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?src=rss&id=1153
[12:39] <kalagaraz> i have amd64 too
[12:39] <kalagaraz> that one worked
[12:39] <octan> i'll take a look, thxz
[12:40] <Sanne> Can anybody recommend a nice character map for KDE? There's kcharmap, but it's not in the repositories, and then there's gucharmap for Gnome.
[12:41] <octan> i'll try that one,, mine is mailfunction after i installed kubuntu-amd64 :)
[12:41] <DaSkreech> Is it me or were there very few KDE changes this week?
[12:42] <kalagaraz> octan make sure you undo what you did in other guides if you never finished them
[12:42] <kalagaraz> else you'll get errors
[12:42] <kalagaraz> that was my problem
[12:42] <zorglu_> hmm the monospace font looks very different on kubuntu than on fc4
[12:42] <jmichaelx> does the 6.06.1 live CD use the 2.6.15-26 kernel?
[12:42] <crimsun> yes
[12:42] <octan> undo? you mean i need to uninstall xserver-xgl ? and that stuff?
[12:43] <octan> kalagaraz,
[12:43] <jmichaelx> crimsun: were you answering me?
[12:43] <kalagaraz> yeah
[12:43] <octan> balh,, i'll get it working,, no worries :D
[12:43] <marnio> is there someone familiar with wine?
[12:44] <zerovertex> Help. How do I get MP3 support in Amarok on Edgy Eft?
[12:44] <AmazingRuss> #kdevelop
[12:44] <octan> zerovertex,  join #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <octan> this is #dapper :P
[12:44] <zerovertex> octan: ah thanks
[12:44] <DaSkreech> zerovertex: install libxine-extracodecs
[12:45] <marnio> zerovertex, try the page " restricted format" in ubuntu foruns on how to install mp3 and other support
[12:45] <zerovertex> thanks DaSkreech and marnio
[12:45] <jmichaelx> are upgrades from dapper to edgy predicted to be fairly smooth?
[12:47] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: If you like blood :)
[12:48] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: upgrades (after final) will be bloody?
[12:48] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: Hey It's called Edgy for a reason :)
[12:48] <jmichaelx> hmm
[12:51] <Sanne> jmichaelx: I would just wait a week or two and see how many woulds the early birds got ;)
[12:51] <jmichaelx> is anyone in here familiar with the netgear wg511 v2 PCMCIA wireless card?
[12:51] <Sanne> s/woulds/wounds
[12:51] <jmichaelx> Sanne: lol
[12:51] <Sanne> :)
[12:51] <jmichaelx> i am i'll upgrade right away on at least one box
[12:52] <jmichaelx> i am sure*
[12:53] <Sanne> jmichaelx: ok, if you have more than one box, there's not much risk :)
[12:54] <jmichaelx> Sanne: i have too many boxes.... are you running edgy right now?
[12:54] <Sanne> jmichaelx: no! *shudder*
[12:54] <ep_> Should I uninstall firefox-gnome-support if I use kubuntu 99.5% of the time.  I don't care that it's there unless there's a performance hit or some other negative.
[12:54] <Sanne> jmichaelx: I'm a coward
[12:55] <jmichaelx> lol
[12:55] <binaryflow> I've used that wireless card before (wg511 v2).
[12:55] <jmichaelx> binaryflow: how did it go?
[12:55] <binaryflow> Have to use ndiswrapper.
[12:55] <binaryflow> I mainly used it on Mandriva before switching over to kubuntu.
[12:55] <Sanne> jmichaelx: actually, I need my (single) box for work, so not having a working pc is not a good option.
[12:55] <binaryflow> Very temperamental.
[12:56] <binaryflow> You can find the driver for it if you search the ndiswrapper wiki.
[12:56] <binaryflow> Had to make sure I was running the latest stable build too.
[12:56] <jmichaelx> binaryflow: well, i was reading that with an updated dapper that that card would be recognized at boot
[12:56] <jmichaelx> but i have not tried it
[12:56] <binaryflow> Really?  That's good.  I moved to a new laptop with an internal card.
[12:57] <binaryflow> Haven't tried it since then.
[12:57] <jmichaelx> ahh
[12:58] <wayne__> anyone have a min to help me with a question about setup of kismet on a dell e1505?
[12:58] <jmichaelx> this is an old laptop that was for year my *main* computer.... but the screen died, and then the hard drive..... but i am hoping to resurrect it
[12:58] <jmichaelx> years*
[12:58] <binaryflow> Mine was the same way.
[12:58] <binaryflow> Wouldn't run linux or Windows at anything bigger than 800x600.  :)
[12:59] <binaryflow> My advice is to drop some money on a dual core beastie.
[12:59] <binaryflow> Much better than my old hardware.
[01:00] <jmichaelx> binaryflow: well, this old laptop has a P4 cpu @ 2.2 Ghz and 512 MB RAM.... i can't stand to discard it yet
[01:01] <binaryflow> Not bad...  My old Presario ran a 600 mhz processor and ~180 mb ram.
[01:02] <jmichaelx> that still isn't bad.... although 256MB RAM would have been a little better
[01:11] <kalagaraz> grab or grep or whatever is used for booting kubuntu overwrote my Acronis OS selector
[01:11] <kalagaraz> and I can no longer get to my windowsXP partition
[01:11] <kalagaraz> how do I undo that?
[01:11] <wayne__> what is the command for joining a new IRC channel?  im using Konversation
[01:13] <Sanne> wayne__: /j #channel
[01:13] <wayne__> #channel kismet
[01:14] <wayne__> channel kismet
[01:14] <wayne__> mmm
[01:14] <Sanne> wayne__: /j #kismet
[01:14] <wayne__> #kismet
[01:14] <jmichaelx> where can the knot 3 live CD .iso be downloaded from?
[01:14] <Sanne> wayne__: lol, do you see what I type?
[01:14] <wayne__> you know sometimes im like a bull in a china cloest
[01:15] <Sanne> wayne__: type, without the quotes: "/j #kismet"
[01:15] <ep> Firefox doesn't use gnome libraries, right?  I like to keep stuff KDE as it seems to run efficently, due to shared libraries or whatever reason.
[01:15] <wayne__> j #kismet
[01:15] <Sanne> wayne__: !!! you forgot the slash !!!
[01:16] <wayne__> thank you
[01:16] <Sanne> wayne__: lol, you're welcome :)
[01:18] <kalagaraz> How can I boot to XP? that grab or grep whatever messed my dual booter up :(
[01:18] <Sanne> ep: I don't knwo about gnome libs, but it certainly needs gtk libs.
[01:18] <apokryphos> kalagaraz: check the FAQ please
[01:18] <kalagaraz> what FAQ?
[01:19] <apokryphos> kalagaraz: the one in the channel topic
[01:21] <ep> Same thing more or less, I guess.  It would be nice if there was KDE integration, like with the file chooser. IMO
[01:21] <kalagaraz> I don't see how to fix it in FAQ...
[01:21] <kalagaraz> I see how to prevent it
[01:21] <kalagaraz> but its too late for that now
[01:21] <apokryphos> kalagaraz: no, there's a fix
[01:22] <kalagaraz> Well I don't see it...
[01:25] <kalagaraz> Still not seeing it
[01:25] <kalagaraz> only thing  resembling a fix is 'recovering grub'
[01:26] <kalagaraz> Anyone know how I can recover my old bootloader?
[01:26] <Sanne> kalagaraz: grub didn't pick up your windows partition automatically during install. You would need to make an entry yourself for your Windows in /boot/grub/menu.list (make a backup of this file first)
[01:27] <Sanne> kalagaraz: the problem right now is, that I don't have windows and don't knwo if I can assist you in that
[01:27] <kalagaraz> thing is. I don't want grub
[01:27] <kalagaraz> I have a graphical bootloader I paid for, called Acronis OS selector
[01:28] <Sanne> kalagaraz: ok, I certainly can't help with recovering your other bootloader, sorry.... don't knwo that one.
[01:28] <kalagaraz> Well according to Apokryphos it's in the FAQ, but I don't see it
[01:29] <Sanne> kalagaraz: hopefully you can reinstall it and tell it somehow to also boot ubuntu, if it's able to boot linux.
[01:29] <apokryphos> I was of course working under the presumption that you're using Ubuntu's bootloader, GRUB
[01:30] <kalagaraz> I need to get to winxp to reinstall
[01:30] <kalagaraz> is there a way to can just boot partition 1
[01:30] <apokryphos> without a bootloader, not really
[01:30] <Sanne> kalagaraz: it's after the fact, but for any nect ubuntu install, use the alternate cd, where you can choose to not install grub.
[01:31] <Sanne> kalagaraz: for now, you could either set up grub so that you can boot windows, the reinstall Acronis
[01:31] <kalagaraz> I have 'ultimate boot CD' could I use that to get to winXP?
[01:32] <Sanne> kalagaraz: or you maybe could use your windows install cd to fix the master boot record with this command, what was it? There's a command for that, but it may not work if you didn't have windows bootloader previously.
[01:32] <Sanne> fdisk /mbr? fixmbr? somesuch
[01:33] <kalagaraz> im just going to configure grub
[01:33] <kalagaraz> If winXP was first it sould be at hd0 0 right?
[01:33] <Sanne> kalagaraz: I would also do that, seems the best way for now.
[01:35] <Sanne> kalagaraz: should be. My / ist first primary partition, and is also hd0,0
[01:35] <kalagaraz> ok I added hd0,0 to the menu.lst file
[01:35] <kalagaraz> that all I gotta do?
[01:36] <Sanne> kalagaraz: there's an example in the menu.list for a windows entry, under "examples"
[01:36] <kalagaraz> yeah I pretty muched copied it :)
[01:36] <kalagaraz> Just making sure there arn't any other files I need to edit
[01:36] <kalagaraz> since grub never acctually gave me a menu when starting, just goes straight to kubuntu
[01:37] <kalagaraz> eh ill try it, brb
[01:37] <Sanne> kalagaraz: I would try with that. You get a menu only with more than one entry. But you could change other things while you're there, sec
[01:37] <Sanne> grrrr
[01:38] <Sanne> no patience, never, ever
[01:39] <favicon> #energy forum
[01:40] <kilrae> hmmm, so i've got a password reset question and answer, now, would it be better to strip case and special chars from the answer for verification or require it to be entered exactly the same as it was originally
[01:42] <Acker> Hi all, I need to know where to get the Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) Knot 3 Live CD if exist, thanks for the response.
[01:44] <kalagaraz> Alright, that worked
[01:44] <kalagaraz> my old bootloader reinstalled
[01:45] <Philip5> Acker: think there is only a ubuntu knot 3 cd yet
[01:45] <kalagaraz> Looks kinda odd though lol 3 bootloaders. Acronis OS selectors loads the grub bootloader for linux. and the Windows bootloader for windows :)
[01:45] <Sanne> kalagaraz: glad it worked :)
[01:46] <Sanne> Acker: this one? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-3/
[01:47] <Sanne> btw, why is it called "knot" this time?
[01:47] <wayne_31> anyone have a min to help me with a question about setup of kismet on a dell e1505?
[01:47] <Sanne> Acker: did you get my response?
[01:47] <Buffy^> morning
[01:47] <Buffy^> man kubuntu is so nice
[01:48] <Acker> Sanne: yes
[01:48] <Buffy^> loveing the whole feel of it
[01:48] <Sanne> Acker: good
[01:48] <Acker> Sanne: But I'm looking for the LiveCD if exist
[01:48] <Acker> Sanne: I just wanna test Edgy before install it on my Laptop
[01:48] <Sanne> Acker: the desktop cd is a live cd
[01:49] <Sanne> Acker: "The desktop CD allows you to try Kubuntu without changing your computer at all"
[01:49] <Acker> Sane: :O works has boot too?
[01:49] <Infecto> right now i`m instaling edgy 3 on my laptop
[01:49] <Infecto> suspend works
[01:49] <Acker> :O
[01:49] <Sanne> Acker: huh?
[01:49] <Infecto> so i dont need anything else
[01:49] <Sanne> Buffy^: it is very nice indeed! :)
[01:49] <Acker> Sane: Forget it, thanks mate for your help.
[01:49] <Infecto> nice nice
[01:49] <Infecto> wery
[01:50] <Infecto> instalator is litle slow
[01:50] <Sanne> Acker: ok :)
[01:50] <Infecto> but it can be :)
[01:50] <Acker> Philip5: Thanks for your responde too :).
[01:50] <Acker> Philip5: response*
[01:51] <Philip5> np
[01:51] <Acker> Ok, I'm leaving, gonna dl Edgy Knot 3 right now, cya guys
[01:52] <kalagaraz> I need more eye-candy. I'm not satisfied with xgl/compiz
[01:54] <Buffy^> xgl is nice though
[01:54] <Buffy^> takes a little while to get the mouse mannerisms but after that it flows
[01:55] <kalagaraz> I've got a few bugs with xgl
[01:55] <kalagaraz> some times minimize stops working
[01:55] <kalagaraz> and I can't type in IRC
[01:55] <Buffy^> well its still in dev
[01:56] <kalagaraz> What's a cool looking theme for KDE?
[01:57] <Buffy^> www.kde-look.org
[01:58] <sacha_> salut
[01:58] <sacha_> y a des gens?
[01:58] <Buffy^> I just mastared the shutdown command, arnt i great @D
[01:58] <Buffy^> salut
[01:58] <Sanne> lol
[01:58] <sacha_> y a pas des programmeur ici
[01:58] <Buffy^> oui
[01:58] <Sanne> hmmm
[01:58] <sacha_> programmeur c++
[01:59] <sacha_> ola
[01:59] <Buffy^> maby /j #c++
[01:59] <Photoguy> nametape.com
[01:59] <Hawkwind> !es
[01:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:59] <Buffy^> but i dont know
[01:59] <sacha_> et c'est pas francais ici!!
[01:59] <Buffy^> francis
[01:59] <Buffy^> lol
[01:59] <sacha_> excuse me
[01:59] <Buffy^> !fr
[01:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:59] <Hawkwind> !fr
[01:59] <Buffy^> :P
[01:59] <sacha_> I believe is it a french chat
[01:59] <Buffy^> yes
[02:00] <Buffy^> je ne comprend pas
[02:00] <Buffy^> tu parlie anglis?
[02:00] <sacha_> oui
[02:00] <Photoguy> lol
[02:00] <sacha_> What's is the langage of this chat$
[02:00] <timpino> WOOOOOOOOOOO Sweden has a new government for the first time in 12 years!
[02:00] <Buffy^> I loveing saying that, then i normaly get but you just spoke french
[02:00] <Hawkwind> English
[02:00] <sacha_> ok
[02:00] <Sanne> congrats Sweden! :)
[02:01] <Buffy^> whoops, i just installed anew kernal and its just sitting there saying booting kernal
[02:01] <Buffy^> I think it might be dead lol
[02:02] <kalagaraz> is KDE4 available? kde-look has KDE4 listed
[02:02] <Buffy^> www.kubuntu.org should say
[02:03] <Buffy^> check the news from Thu, 7 Sep 2006 1
[02:05] <mateo_> Hi
[02:05] <mateo_> I have a problem with amarok not playing mp3
[02:06] <timpino> I had the same
[02:06] <timpino> !mp3
[02:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:06] <timpino> try the hurry things, and remember to CLOSE amarok before trying again
[02:06] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[02:07] <Buffy^> it does indeed
[02:07] <timpino> also make sure you do the kubuntu things not the ubuntu things
[02:07] <Buffy^> Right then trying the smp kernal with dual pros = death
[02:07] <timpino> mateo: read on restricted formats
[02:07] <Buffy^> which isnt nice
[02:08] <dec_> does anyone know where to get a super nintendo emulator for ubuntu?
[02:08] <timpino> snes9x should work
[02:08] <dec_> how do i get snes9x
[02:08] <Buffy^> google
[02:08] <Buffy^> should be able to list it with that
[02:09] <kalagaraz> I have that on windows, there is a linux version?
[02:09] <Buffy^> I have snes9x on my psp
[02:09] <kalagaraz> Too bad can't access my windows partition from here :) 16gb of snes roms :)
[02:09] <Buffy^> why not?
[02:09] <timpino> you can't?
[02:09] <kalagaraz> Dunno, it's just not on the storage list
[02:09] <kalagaraz> Only see this drive
[02:09] <Buffy^> you can enable NTFS
[02:09] <timpino> it should be mounted under media
[02:09] <kalagaraz> or this partition
[02:10] <Buffy^> When i was running mandrake, i had to enable it
[02:10] <Sanne> dec_: first search in the repositories, packages.ubuntu.com should tell you what to enable in your sources.list
[02:10] <kalagaraz> storage media: just see this 21gb partition
[02:10] <kalagaraz> I can't see kubunto partition from windows either
[02:10] <timpino> that you shouldn't
[02:10] <Sanne> dec_: there seem to be some packages in multiverse: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=snes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[02:11] <timpino> windows has no support for ext3
[02:11] <timpino> !ntfs
[02:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:11] <Buffy^> !dual
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <timpino> Buffy^: do you want to dualboot?
[02:12] <Buffy^> 1 mother board with 2 socket A amd 1 GHz
[02:12] <timpino> ah, i see
[02:12] <Buffy^> atm it only sees one processer
[02:12] <timpino> you probably need a new kernel
[02:12] <Buffy^> i just loaded the K7 kernal instead of the k6
[02:13] <timpino> with support for 2 cpus
[02:13] <Hawkwind> Buffy^: Install the linux-686 package which is for SMP processors
[02:13] <Buffy^> i will try it
[02:13] <Buffy^> i have the command on my screen now
[02:14] <doppelganger_> quick question that's driving me crazy:  how do i change the icon font color on the desktop?
[02:14] <doppelganger_> i've been looking everywhere in kcontrol
[02:14] <timpino> go to system settings
[02:14] <kalagaraz> woot can see windows partition now :)
[02:14] <timpino> nice
[02:14] <Sanne> Buffy^: I have an Amd64 X2 3800 and use this kernel (in case it helps you): Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[02:15] <Buffy^> i dont have x2
[02:15] <Buffy^> I have 2 single core processers
[02:15] <timpino> doppelganger_: system settings - appearance - fonts
[02:15] <Buffy^> and the k7 set killed it :)
[02:15] <Buffy^> so i will try the 686 but i dout it will help
[02:16] <Sanne> Buffy^: ah, I see. Dunno exactly what to do then, good luck anyway :)
[02:16] <doppelganger_> timpino: i've been here before, where is the color setting?
[02:17] <timpino> doppelganger_: click on the k menu then system settings chose appearance the fonts in the list you have deskotpfont
[02:17] <Buffy^> not that many people are running x2, but i know alot of racks that are running 2x socketA's
[02:17] <doppelganger_> timpino: i'm there, i'm not seeing the color setting
[02:17] <doppelganger_> i see the font setting
[02:17] <Infecto> on edgy 3
[02:17] <Infecto> how long schould take scaning mirror server
[02:17] <Infecto> ?
[02:17] <timpino> doppelganger_: oh sorry color, hmmmm
[02:17] <timpino> doppelganger_: not sure
[02:17] <kalagaraz> How can I setup to run x86 stuff on x86_64?
[02:17] <Infecto> on my instalation its 10 min
[02:18] <timpino> doppelganger_: will have a look for it
[02:18] <isoss> Hey guys
[02:18] <Infecto> untiln now and want stop
[02:18] <isoss> how can I unmount a ftp or ssh folder in KDE ?
[02:18] <doppelganger_> it's driving me nuts, lol
[02:18] <doppelganger_> it's probably something way too obvious
[02:18] <timpino> doppelganger_: desktop advanced settings
[02:18] <doppelganger_> "it's probably some mundane detail, i always screw up something like that"
[02:19] <shalrath> whats the name of the unstable arch?
[02:19] <Hawkwind> shalrath: Edgy Eft
[02:19] <shalrath> Hawkwind:  which servers should i use for that?
[02:19] <Hawkwind> shalrath: Are you running Edgy ?
[02:19] <shalrath> actually i just threw the latest kubuntu desktop on a test comp here
[02:20] <shalrath> never used an apt based system before tho
[02:20] <timpino> doppelganger_: got it to work? don't know how to change the border around the font though, think that's automatic
[02:20] <Hawkwind> shalrath: Edgy is for testing only and still breaks quite often.  I'd suggest sticking with stable until Edgy becomes final
[02:20] <doppelganger_> timpino: you are a gentleman and a scholar my friend  ;)
[02:21] <doppelganger_> i was there earlier, just completely overlooked it
[02:21] <Buffy^> tring the 686 now, this could hurt
[02:21] <shalrath> well I could have told myself that
[02:21] <doppelganger_> timpino: thanks man, sorry to bother ya
[02:21] <shalrath> im just wondering..  would I replace 'dapper' with 'edgy eft' in my sources.list?
[02:21] <timpino> doppelganger_: actually i just can't go to bed yet to excited that sweden has got a new government :P thanks for the nice words though
[02:21] <timpino> doppelganger_: No Worries
[02:21] <Hawkwind> shalrath: No, you'd replace it with just 'edgy'
[02:22] <kalagaraz> whats the general route of compiling something?
[02:22] <shalrath> and the main restricted tags still apply?
[02:22] <kalagaraz> ./configure ,/make ?
[02:22] <Hawkwind> shalrath: Correct
[02:22] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: What are you wanting to compile ?
[02:22] <shalrath> kalagaraz:  make is called from /usr/bin.   no need for the ./
[02:22] <kalagaraz> snes9x
[02:22] <shalrath> but configure is in the source dir of the app you're building
[02:22] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: There isn't a pre-packaged deb file for it ?
[02:22] <Sanne> kalagaraz: it's in the repositories
[02:22] <shalrath> so ./configure && make && make install
[02:23] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: sudo apt-get install snes9x
[02:23] <kalagaraz> ahh ok
[02:23] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: You should always check with apt-get first before going off trying to compile things
[02:23] <kalagaraz> I use to use slackware and had to compile every single thing. long time ago
[02:23] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: apt-cache search <package-name> will show you what you want
[02:23] <shalrath> say Hawkwind  would i just need one line in my sources-list then if im using edgy?
[02:23] <Hawkwind> shalrath: Possibly.  You might ask in #Ubuntu+1 as those guys all run Edgy
[02:24] <Sanne> kalagaraz: you need to have multiverse enabled, though
[02:24] <shalrath> mmkay, cool
[02:24] <Buffy^> how would i check for apt-get for shockwave?
[02:24] <timpino> flash?
[02:24] <Buffy^> well adobe shockwave
[02:25] <timpino> isn't that a comercial app?
[02:25] <Sanne> Buffy^: proprietary software is mostly not found in the repositories
[02:25] <Buffy^> k
[02:26] <Buffy^> its fee i know that much but its not dev'd by any one attached to the linux community really
[02:26] <Sanne> Buffy^: gh there are only few exceptions, like binary nvidia graphics drivers and such
[02:26] <Buffy^> right
[02:26] <timpino> Buffy^: try adobe homepage
[02:26] <Buffy^> i have downloaded it, but i am unsure as to how to intall it
[02:27] <Sanne> Buffy^: is it even for linux?
[02:27] <timpino> Buffy^: compile?
[02:27] <timpino> Buffy^: or binary?
[02:28] <Buffy^> bin
[02:28] <james_xxx> this is kind of weird.... GNOME Baker has just died.... will not load up anymore
[02:28] <Buffy^> it keeps saying permission denided
[02:28] <Buffy^> I am logged in as root when asking it to intall
[02:28] <Buffy^> install
[02:28] <OlgaB> Hi
[02:28] <kalagaraz> I installed snes9x-x, where do I run it?
[02:29] <Buffy^> under media from the k menu
[02:29] <kalagaraz> I don't see it
[02:29] <OlgaB> My laptop shuts down after the Kubuntu LiveCD's bootup sequence ends
[02:30] <Buffy^> hmm
[02:30] <Buffy^> poweR>
[02:30] <timpino> OlgaB: you you get any error messages?
[02:30] <edge> I built a raid on some drives but Ubuntu does'nt see them in the graphical install yet i can see them and modify files on them in the console , is theres a special version of Kubuntu i need?
[02:30] <Sanne> kalagaraz: open a konsole window, type the program name. If you're not sure, type the first characters, then hit tab to use tab completion.
[02:30] <OlgaB> I get some error messages concering my wireless chip, but nothing else iirc
[02:31] <timpino> OlgaB: strange, that should not casue it to not boot
[02:31] <Sanne> night all
[02:31] <OlgaB> In Windows it appears to be going slower than usual
[02:31] <kalagaraz> I tried run the snes9x binary it doesn't do anyhting
[02:32] <kalagaraz> Does it work for x86_64?
[02:32] <timpino> kalagaraz: did you download a package for i386 or x86_64?
[02:32] <zorglu_> wow i solved my font problems
[02:32] <kalagaraz> I don't know I use went to adept and installed it
[02:33] <zorglu_> now i have knowledged of what is font config :)
[02:33] <timpino> kalagaraz: strange
[02:33] <zorglu_> and the fact you have to reboot kde to take it into account :)
[02:33] <kalagaraz> oh
[02:33] <kalagaraz> so I gotta add rom after image?
[02:33] <kalagaraz> err rom after snes9x
[02:33] <kalagaraz> No graphic interface?
[02:34] <zorglu_> OlgaB: have you checked the cd itself ?
[02:34] <kalagaraz> snes9x gives me all the -options for program
[02:34] <timpino> OlgaB: good point about checking the media
[02:34] <OlgaB> I'll see if it's defective then
[02:35] <timpino> OlgaB: I had a problem like that with slackware some time ago
[02:35] <OlgaB> I'm using the Dapper LiveCD but I have an Edgy Knot 2 CD as well
[02:35] <OlgaB> So I'll test the Edgy LiveCD too
[02:35] <kalagaraz> haha my snes folder freezes ubuntu too :) Like a billion roms in 1 folder
[02:36] <timpino> kalagaraz: LOL
[02:36] <timpino> kalagaraz: you don't have like usb-pen to transfer the most wanted roms with?
[02:36] <kalagaraz> whats usb-pen?
[02:36] <timpino> kalagaraz: usb memory stick
[02:37] <kalagaraz> I have them all on my windows partitino
[02:37] <kalagaraz> 16gb worth, wouldn't fit on a stick :)
[02:37] <timpino> kalagaraz: yeah, but you can transfer some that you play more
[02:37] <OlgaB> I seem to be getting a "PCI failed to allocate [too fast to read] " before the graphical loading screen starts
[02:37] <kalagaraz> I'm trying to move super mario all stars to my linux partition. but the folder is lagging like crap
[02:38] <timpino> kalagaraz: BTW how the hell did you get 16 GBs of snes roms, didn't think there were that many games made
[02:38] <OlgaB> Maybe he has multiple versions of the same games
[02:38] <kalagaraz> I have every japanese game too
[02:38] <timpino> ah
[02:38] <kalagaraz> and beta editions
[02:38] <timpino> lol, i quite proud of my 200 roms collection
[02:39] <timpino> kalagaraz: favourite game?
[02:39] <kalagaraz> Earthbound
[02:39] <timpino> mine is Zelda:aLttP
[02:39] <OlgaB> Anyone know what this PCI allocation error sort of stuff might be about?
[02:39] <kalagaraz> You getting a wii? :)
[02:40] <timpino> OlgaB: might be something about the mb
[02:40] <OlgaB> hmm
[02:40] <james_xxx> what does it mean when i get the error "could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend", when trying to enable a network device?
[02:40] <timpino> kalagaraz: no, i think that nintendo went downhill after snes, but i do have a GBA
[02:41] <james_xxx> what does it mean when i get the error "could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend", when trying to enable a network device?
[02:42] <timpino> OlgaB: how old is the laptop?
[02:43] <kalagaraz> hmm I loaded a rom in snes9x and jsut get a black screen
[02:43] <kalagaraz> anything I'm missing?
[02:45] <kalagaraz> this is last console message
[02:45] <kalagaraz> XShmCreateImage failed, switching to XPutImage
[02:45] <OlgaB> About a year old
[02:45] <timpino> sounds like snes9x has a problem to work together with X, maybe some dep is missing
[02:47] <timpino> OlgaB: maybe you need to start with a different kernel, but i'm totally in the dark concerning that...
[02:48] <OlgaB> hmm
[02:48] <kalagaraz> :(
[02:48] <OlgaB> aha
[02:49] <OlgaB> I think this laptop uses an Athlon 64
[02:49] <OlgaB> That would warrant a different LiveCD, no?
[02:49] <OlgaB> The one I have is x86 arch
[02:49] <zorglu_> try adding "pci=off" in the boot option
[02:49] <timpino> it "should" work fine on the x86 arch, but try the amd64 one, might work
[02:50] <zorglu_> or other option which tune the boot
[02:50] <james_xxx> what does it mean when i get the error "could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend", when trying to enable a network device?
[02:50] <photoguy> ls
[02:50] <zorglu_> james_xxx: that there is a bug in the configurator :)
[02:50] <kalagaraz> I should of gotten the normal kubuntu instead of 64
[02:51] <kalagaraz> I can't get 32bit apps to work
[02:51] <timpino> kalagaraz: oooh, I think I found the problem
[02:51] <james_xxx> at this point, i have no net access on that PC.... wireless and ethernet are both dead.............
[02:51] <james_xxx> zorglu_: i have no idea what you mean lol
[02:51] <timpino> kalagaraz: apparently it runs only on x11, kubuntu runs x.org if i'm not wrong
[02:52] <timpino> james_xxx: do you have the correct drivers for your ethernet device?
[02:52] <james_xxx> timpino: i never had issues before. wireless and ethernet were both working fine unitl 15 minutes ago
[02:52] <kalagaraz> timpino so what are some fun things I can do on linux? :)
[02:54] <timpino> kalagaraz: tbh don't know really, I was going for a dual boot but forgot to uncheck format on my ntfs partition, so basicly I will reinstall some time soon, there aren't that many games that work under linux, q3, wc3 nwn, diablo2 should work
[02:54] <OlgaB> pci=off causes a kernel panic
[02:54] <timpino> james_xxx: then what did you do?
[02:55] <james_xxx> timpino: i did nothing as far as i know
[02:55] <kalagaraz> how can I install flash on amd64?
[02:55] <james_xxx> timpino: the only thing i have done , is download an .iso
[02:56] <Xanith> Hi, I just installed kubuntu on my computer, and for some reason i've noticed that in Firefox and any browser, the internet works, but is extremely slow and takes a long time to load a web page... Anyone have any clues?
[02:56] <cpk2> kalagaraz: there is an entry on the wiki about flash and 64bit
[02:56] <timpino> james_xxx: strange, mighty strange
[02:56] <Xanith> Like, it takes about 25 seconds to load google.com... and this is 350kb/s down DSL
[02:57] <timpino> james_xxx: can't really help you
[02:57] <james_xxx> i think i am done with kubuntu on that PC....
[02:57] <Xanith> I've tried resetting the modem and the router...
[02:57] <james_xxx> this would make install #5
[02:57] <shegman> Xanith: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:58] <Xanith> Thanks!
[02:58] <shegman> np
[02:58] <Xanith> i probably never would've found that seeing as it takes me like 2 minutes to load a webpage lol
[02:58] <timpino> james_xxx: have you tried any other distros?
[02:58] <OlgaB> Debian Etch LiveCD seems to work fine
[02:59] <OlgaB> So I'm guessing I need the 64-bit Kubuntu LiveCD or something
[02:59] <james_xxx> timpino: yes, but not on this PC...
[03:00] <james_xxx> timpino: i guess i will re-install, but i am really disgusted lol
[03:00] <timpino> james_xxx: well if you really want linux try another distro, otherwise well you know...
[03:00] <timpino> james_xxx: sometimes another distro has better support for your kind of ehternet device
[03:01] <timpino> james_xxx: it's not that your isp has disconnected you?
[03:01] <james_xxx> timpino: the issue is not the ethernet device
[03:01] <timpino> james_xxx: so that you have to log in again to the isp?
[03:01] <james_xxx> timpino: if my ISP had done that, i would not be talking to you
[03:01] <timpino> oh, yeah, right sorry :P
[03:01] <kalagaraz> I don't have gedit 'gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc &'
[03:02] <kalagaraz> on kde what do you use inplace of gedit?
[03:03] <shegman> kate
[03:03] <romedog> what is a good news reader to use to download nzb files
[03:03] <Xanith> how do i install flash on kubuntu?
[03:03] <Xanith> i sound like a total n00b again, this is my first hour of using kubuntu lol
[03:04] <flaccid> !flash
[03:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:06] <Xanith> it says to install flashplugin-nonfree but that doesn't come up in Adept Manager...
[03:06] <timpino> !repositories
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:07] <flaccid> !flashplugin-nonfree
[03:07] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:07] <flaccid> Xanith: in component multiverse repos
[03:07] <timpino> Xanith: you probalby need to ad multiverse and universe in repositories
[03:07] <flaccid> yeah is multiverse..
[03:07] <Xanith> the repositories in Adept Manager right?
[03:07] <timpino> yeah
[03:07] <photoguy> when i download a file that is tared up to my desktop, how do i get to it from command line?
[03:08] <timpino> start xterm the cd Desktop
[03:08] <Xanith> How exactly? I mean I know how to get to where u add them but what am I adding?
[03:08] <flaccid> photoguy: cd ~/Desktop
[03:08] <Xanith> like is it an address or just add multiverse?
[03:08] <shegman> it should be there as a comment
[03:09] <shegman> just right click on it an enable it
[03:09] <flaccid> !repos Xanith
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repos Xanith - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <flaccid> !repositories Xanith
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositories Xanith - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <flaccid> meh bad spelling
[03:09] <flaccid> its on the page already pasted
[03:10] <timpino> Xanith: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu read there there are exact instructions
[03:10] <flaccid> don't pm me, photoguy
[03:11] <Jucato> flaccid: it's "!factoid > nickname" to send the response in a PM
[03:11] <Xanith> well, i added them but it's not showing up still
[03:11] <flaccid> Jucato: what do you mean?
[03:11] <Jucato> something like this
[03:11] <Jucato> !repos > flaccid
[03:11] <rcmn> a while back i thought i found an KDE equivalent for beagle.Does anyone know
[03:12] <Jucato> rcmn: kerry is a KDE frontend to beagle
[03:12] <Jucato> but you still need to install beagle iirc
[03:12] <rcmn> that's it
[03:12] <flaccid> i was telling photoguy not to pm me
[03:12] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good morning!
[03:12] <rcmn> ok i saw kerry but didn't do th connection thank u
[03:12] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind! :)
[03:13] <kalagaraz> hmm got flash installed. but flash games are all screwy :(
[03:13] <Jucato> flaccid: I was referring to this "<flaccid> !repositories Xanith"
[03:13] <rcmn> arff kerry is not in my repo
[03:13] <photoguy> my bad
[03:13] <photoguy> im sorry
[03:13] <flaccid> Jucato: i put it in front to show its for that person. didn't want to pm it.
[03:14] <Jucato> flaccid: ah ok. :)
[03:14] <Lunar_Raven> !azureus
[03:14] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:14] <Jucato> !kerry > rcmn
[03:14] <kbrooks> isnt it !rcmn
[03:14] <kbrooks> !kerry > kbrooks
[03:16] <timpino> does anyone know how to change the default application for say torrents?
[03:16] <flaccid> Jucato: cool trick but... spammers could go sick?
[03:16] <timpino> not a big fan of Ktorrent
[03:17] <shegman> why?
[03:17] <flaccid> timpino: open konqueror, goto configure from menu and goto file associations
[03:17] <timpino> thanks
[03:17] <Jucato> flaccid: heh. an even nicer trick is that you could PM ubotu so that you don't have to flood the channels with ! lines
[03:17] <flaccid> yeah alread know that one..
[03:17] <Jucato> Konqueror > Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations
[03:17] <flaccid> you showed me that as welll :p
[03:17] <Jucato> oh I did? heh
[03:18] <flaccid> now if you could just finish making my coffee :p
[03:18] <Jucato> lol
[03:18] <timpino> and get me some new, mine has run out!
[03:18] <timpino> :)
[03:19] <flaccid> damn
[03:19] <flaccid> you know what. stuff os x, you can do way more with kde/linux. i've decided not to dual boot os x now
[03:19] <timpino> the #1 cause of death among linux users: lack of caffine
[03:19] <flaccid> lol
[03:19] <flaccid> or caffeine overdose
[03:20] <flaccid> or maybe kaffeine overdose
[03:20] <timpino> nah, you can't get enough
[03:20] <flaccid> i drink way too much
[03:20] <timpino> 5-6 cups a day
[03:21] <timpino> cyanide that's not good makes you chew froth
[03:21] <flaccid> lol
[03:21] <nimrod> i cant run any php file with my apache server
[03:22] <timpino> nimrod: have you installed php?
[03:22] <nimrod> yes of course
[03:22] <timpino> and configed apache for it?
[03:23] <nimrod> hmmm
[03:23] <nimrod> i... don't know
[03:23] <nimrod> hehe
[03:23] <nimrod> i only installed the packages
[03:23] <flaccid> !lamp
[03:23] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[03:23] <flaccid> hmm
[03:24] <timpino> nimrod: if you installed it manually you need to configure som apache config...
[03:25] <nimrod> i installed with adept
[03:26] <timpino> nimrod: you may need to restart the apache server
[03:26] <nimrod> ok
[03:26] <nimrod> sudo /etc/init.dapache2 restart  --?
[03:26] <nimrod> init.d/apache2
[03:26] <timpino> yeah
[03:26] <nimrod> ok
[03:27] <timpino> nimrod: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 acording to the guide
[03:27] <nimrod> i restarted the server but didnt work
[03:27] <timpino> nimrod: did you do sudo a2enmod php5
[03:28] <nimrod> no
[03:28] <timpino> do that then restart apache
[03:28] <nimrod> ok
[03:28] <OlgaB> well it looks like my laptop shuts of when it loads up acpi modules, so acpi=off might actually fix it \o/
[03:29] <timpino> OlgaB: nice
[03:29] <nimrod> timpino: all good now.. thank you
[03:29] <timpino> nimrod: no worries
[03:29] <OlgaB> Yep, it was ACPI
[03:30] <timpino> OlgaB: YEAAAH! :P
[03:30] <Xanith> how do i mount my storage drive so it's not only for root access?
[03:30] <flaccid> Xanith: which fs?
[03:30] <flaccid> !fstab Xanith
[03:30] <Xanith> ntfs
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fstab Xanith - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <flaccid> ok
[03:31] <flaccid> um there is a specific mask to put on ntfs
[03:31] <flaccid> !ntfs
[03:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:31] <murchadh> join #init
[03:31] <flaccid> need to find it
[03:32] <Xanith> thanks again
[03:33] <flaccid> Xanith: follow that page. i'll see if i can find this recommended mask. make sure you have changed the mount point (folder) to the desired owner/perms
[03:33] <dennister> hi all
[03:34] <flaccid> Xanith: actually the masks are the page
[03:34] <timpino> flaccid: I was thinking about that could you not just chmod the mountpoint?
[03:34] <dennister> anyone know mysql-server?
[03:35] <flaccid> timpino: yeah but masks are better for multi-user access. ie. still mount under root
[03:35] <dennister> timpino: hello again
[03:35] <timpino> ok
[03:35] <timpino> dennister: hi
[03:35] <kalagaraz> How do I get superkaramba to load all my widgets when kubuntu boots?
[03:35] <timpino> dennister: sorry don't know anything about MySQL
[03:36] <timpino> !MySQL
[03:36] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[03:36] <timpino> look there
[03:36] <dennister> tis ok timpino
[03:36] <Lunar_Raven> !bittornado
[03:36] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 848 kB
[03:36] <dennister> I'd just love to be successful with that the way I was with the new kernel and video earlier today
[03:37] <timpino> dennister: do you want to learn MySQL or install it? if you want it to be installed check the link above
[03:39] <dennister> timpino: I have installed it; but I need it to show up with phpmyadmin on my web apache
[03:40] <dennister> i'm trying to install mythtv, and mysql-server, apache, and the phpadmin are required prerequisites
[03:40] <timpino> dennister: oh, don't know zilch about that... :P have you tried MySQL homepage?
[03:40] <dennister> yes...and a whole pile of other gui front-ends, too
[03:40] <flaccid> dennister: i've got to install mythtv too
[03:40] <dennister> but apparently the phpadmin is the one to use
[03:40] <flaccid> dennister: do you have a problem yet?
[03:41] <dennister> flaccid: how far along are u?
[03:41] <dennister> yes, the problem is getting the mysql to show up
[03:41] <flaccid> just finishing setting up lamp
[03:41] <flaccid> dennister: whats the problem
[03:41] <dennister> I tried to do that with the ubunutu server + kubuntu on desktop--gave up
[03:42] <flaccid> dennister: what exactly is the problem?
[03:43] <kalagaraz> How do I get superkaramba to load all my widgets when kubuntu boots?
[03:43] <dennister> problem: the howtos say that, as ur installing the mysql, he mysql-server will ask for further information. Choose 'setup internet site'.
[03:43] <dennister> only it doesn't ask for that futher information, so i can't choose 'setup internet site'
[03:43] <dennister> it's sitting here, doing nothing, almost invisible
[03:44] <flaccid> dennister: URI ?
[03:44] <dennister> which url...the howto?
[03:44] <flaccid> yes please
[03:44] <wilson> let's fuck!!
[03:44] <wilson> xD
[03:44] <dennister> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallMythOnUbuntu?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[03:45] <dennister> earlier i had another howto, specifically for kubuntu & dapper, but I've lost it...can't find it anymore
[03:46] <flaccid> !mythtv
[03:46] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:46] <flaccid> that one?
[03:46] <LinuxNT> I had a problem with sudo and su... If I attempt to use (via konsole) 'sudo su' the system replies only with the user prompt ($). If attempt to use -by example- adept... the system replies 'problem with su'... What can I do?
[03:46] <dennister> flaccid: how did you get the mysql part of lamp working
[03:47] <flaccid> !mysql > dennister
[03:47] <Hobbsee> LinuxNT: just use sudo, not sudo su
[03:47] <flaccid> just installed it
[03:48] <flaccid> then set the root password on the mysql server
[03:48] <timpino> LinuxNT: sudo -i gives you a terminal wtih root
[03:48] <flaccid> that mythtv howto is a lot of work. you can just go sudo apt-get install mythtv and it does the deps, but maybe this is not enough
[03:49] <LinuxNT> Hobbsee: If I attempt 'sudo ls -l' doesn't work. :(
[03:49] <dennister> yes, the mythtv is a lot of work...haven't tried to simply install myth from synaptic yet...wanted t make sure i did it right
[03:49] <dennister> what with all the drivers that are needed and all
[03:49] <Hobbsee> LinuxNT: use sudo -s first, that gives you a root shel
[03:50] <Hobbsee> l
[03:50] <LinuxNT> Hobbsee: Okay!
[03:50] <flaccid> dennister: well i'll do it as well. you fix your mysql first then keep goign?
[03:50] <LinuxNT> Hobbsee: Stay in user prompt.
[03:51] <Hobbsee> or is it sudo -i?
[03:51] <Hobbsee> both wokr, iirc
[03:51] <timpino> LinuxNT: sudo -i
[03:52] <dennister> flaccid, i tried ur command, "!myswl" but I got an error message
[03:52] <flaccid> dennister: should we use the one you pasted or http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html ?
[03:52] <dennister> when I tried to enter a password
[03:52] <flaccid> dennister: in konsole: mysql -u root
[03:52] <flaccid> no password
[03:52] <LinuxNT> Hobbsee: Do not reply nothing!
[03:52] <flaccid> then set a password as per the wiki/howto
[03:56] <dennister> checked out the last url; i've seen and used this one too; i never had seen the earlier one the bot suggested
[03:56] <Xanith> i'm trying to install a program and it tells me to do su -c "make install" but when I do that and type in my password, it says authentcation error... why is this not working?
[03:57] <dennister> i did get somewhere with the rootshell after I entered the "mysql -u root': I got a mysql> prompt
[03:58] <Jucato> Xanith: I think it's just "sudo make install"
[03:58] <dennister> hey zblach: howdy neighbour
[03:58] <Xanith> command not found
[03:58] <timpino> Xanith: you need to install make
[03:58] <Jucato> Xanith: err I meant use "sudo make install", we don't use su
[03:58] <flaccid> dennister: that was linked from the bot link
[03:58] <Jucato> Xanith: install the package "build-essential"
[03:58] <dennister> yes, i know
[03:59] <dennister> i figured out ubotu was a bot earlier this aft :-)
[03:59] <Xanith> ok it's installing now
[03:59] <flaccid> dennister: so you logged onto the mysql server, have you changed the root pass?
[04:00] <zblach> hey dennister
[04:00] <zblach> ?
[04:00] <dennister> which part of toronto?
[04:00] <dennister> flaccid: not yet, that's the next task...forgot how
[04:00] <flaccid> !mysql > dennister
[04:02] <dennister> k, typed in my nic at the prompt, line now reads: mysql> dennister
[04:02] <flaccid> dennister: why?
[04:03] <dennister> lol...haven't the foggiest, thought you were telling me to
[04:03] <flaccid> dennister: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head
[04:03] <flaccid> no that was a bot call
[04:03] <flaccid> sorry
[04:03] <james_xxx> what does it mean when i get the error "could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend", when trying to enable a network device?
[04:03] <james_xxx> at this point, i have no net access on that PC.... wireless and ethernet are both dead.............
[04:04] <flaccid> how can i confirm what capture/tv card i have in my notebook?
[04:05] <intelikey> flaccid lshw maybe
[04:06] <photoguy> i used the command # sudo iwconfig eth1 mode monitor   - to make my Wireless card monitor traffic, ... anyone know what the command you be to make it stop?
[04:06] <kalagaraz> How do I disable shift+backspace
[04:06] <flaccid> photoguy: iwconfig eth1 mode managed
[04:06] <kalagaraz> nm got it
[04:07] <photoguy> thank you
[04:08] <roffman20> good night, who can help me to settle one vpn?
[04:08] <intelikey> i get an error   unable to look up address for localhost when trying to startx     any wizards want to tackle that ?
[04:09] <flaccid> intelikey: thanks thats a cool command
[04:09] <dennister> flaccid: still having trouble setting password; getting eror 1064(42000) so it's my sql syntax
[04:09] <james_xxx> is there a way to run konqueor as root?
[04:09] <flaccid> intelikey: is your /etc/hosts file correctly setting localhost
[04:10] <Jucato> james_xxx: Alt+F2, then "kdesu konqueror"
[04:10] <intelikey> flaccid welcome.   ls[tab]    very revealing.
[04:10] <james_xxx> konqueror*
[04:10] <intelikey> flaccid yes it is.
[04:10] <flaccid> dennister: if you follow the wiki it works
[04:10] <james_xxx> Jucato: ty
[04:10] <dennister> at one point I copied the command from the url u gave me at the sql prompt: mysql> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword');, placing my own password in the parentheses' quotes
[04:10] <dennister> yes, but i am trying to follow that wiki
[04:11] <intelikey> hmmm and because the localhost address issue  x has no menus
[04:11] <flaccid> dennister: it worked for me so you must be putting in something extra. the command is:
[04:11] <flaccid> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword');
[04:12] <timpino> G'night everybody
[04:12] <dennister> 'night timpino
[04:12] <timpino> *falls asleep on keybard
[04:12] <james_xxx> Jucato: why, when i run konqueor as root, do my storage media not show up?
[04:13] <intelikey> james_xxx $HOME
[04:13] <james_xxx> intelikey: ty
[04:14] <flaccid> dennister: what capture card you got?
[04:15] <dennister> AHA!!! finally! wohoo!
[04:15] <dennister> i got the correct positive response
[04:15] <dennister> i've got a hauppauge 250
[04:16] <james_xxx> ok, i am trying to copy my entire home dir to an external HD, and it is just not working....
[04:16] <dennister> i also have a powercolour pcie x1 tuner, run by ati's theatre 550 pro, but I probably won't even try to get that working with linux & myth
[04:16] <flaccid> james_xxx: just not working hey thats too bad
[04:17] <dennister> but the ati tuner does work brilliantly with xp media center edition
[04:17] <flaccid> dennister: i have a SAA7133 and don't know what to do lol
[04:17] <kalagaraz> What's a good tool for recording a video of my desktop?
[04:17] <intelikey> james_xxx where is the external mounted ?
[04:17] <dennister> omg flaccid...i'm still a real noob, don't think i can help u
[04:17] <flaccid> hehe
[04:18] <dennister> hold on: I think i read something about that tuner quite some time ago
[04:18] <james_xxx> intelikey: /dev/sda2
[04:18] <intelikey> nope
[04:18] <intelikey> where is it mounted ?
[04:18] <TommyMann> What do I do about GRUB Error 18?
[04:18] <dennister> who makes it flaccid?
[04:18] <flaccid> philips
[04:18] <james_xxx> intelikey: i am too dumb to know what you are asking...
[04:18] <dennister> yes, that twigs a bell
[04:18] <TommyMann> Anyone?
[04:19] <intelikey> james_xxx you need to mount a file system before you can access it.
[04:19] <dennister> have u looked at 'mysetopbox', mythtv.org, and all the other sites?
[04:19] <TommyMann> I'm on my live CD because I can't get the distro up
[04:19] <dennister> that's probably where i read about the phillips card u mention
[04:19] <james_xxx> intelikey: it is mounted. it is an external HD with 2 partitions
[04:20] <TommyMann> hmm?
[04:20] <intelikey> james_xxx konsole command   mount           and see if /dev/sda2 appears anywhere in the output
[04:20] <flaccid> dennister: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[04:20] <TommyMann> please
[04:20] <flaccid> ^^ thats what i need to do
[04:20] <Xanith> anyone ever hear if it's possible to get Nero to emulate in wine?
[04:20] <intelikey> james_xxx /dev/sda2 is not a dirrectory  it's the device node.
[04:20] <intelikey> mount points are always dirrectories
[04:20] <dennister> more is coming back to me now...I thnk it's reputed to work...yes, that site might have been amongst myr readings
[04:20] <TommyMann> can I get some help
[04:20] <TommyMann> on this GRUB Error 18
[04:20] <james_xxx> intelikey: yes, it is in the output
[04:21] <intelikey> ok where is it mounted ?
[04:21] <james_xxx> intelikey: /media/usbdisk
[04:21] <TommyMann> someone?
[04:21] <josh_> how do i make a passworded zip file?
[04:21] <TommyMann> Can I get some help with Grub Error 18
[04:22] <james_xxx> intelikey: it actually does appear to be working now.... just very very slowly
[04:22] <reddwolf78> hello
[04:22] <binaryflow> james_xxx: I had this problem on Friday - I had to give my username ownership of the /media/usbkey folder
[04:22] <TommyMann> Grub error 18 any takers
[04:22] <TommyMann> my machine is not working
[04:22] <binaryflow> james_xxx: could read the drive but couldn't write to it.
[04:23] <james_xxx> binaryflow: that is whaT I NEED TO DO
[04:23] <Hobbsee> TommyMann: google grub error 18 gentoo and follow the solution
[04:23] <ver1oren> can't get my computer to get out of 640x480
[04:23] <ver1oren> ...
[04:23] <ver1oren> help?
[04:23] <TommyMann> thanks
[04:23] <intelikey> ok james you should be able to do this in the konsole.  sudo cp -a ~ /media/usbdisk
[04:23] <binaryflow> james_xxx: Try this: sudo chown username.groupname /media/usbkey
[04:23] <intelikey> could be much faster
[04:23] <james_xxx> i am trying to back up my home dir, because i am going to have to re-install..... SAD to say :-(
[04:23] <reddwolf78> can some one give me the web site for beable to play mp3s or wma for a linux system
[04:24] <james_xxx> what is the groupname?
[04:24] <intelikey> groups
[04:24] <intelikey> first thing it lists
[04:24] <josh_> ver1oren: what video card do you have
[04:24] <flaccid> dennister: i just installed tvtime via sudo apt-get install tvtime and it works lol
[04:24] <TommyMann> ok the thing from gentoo might as well be in greek
[04:25] <james_xxx> intelikey: ty again..... i just dud 'sudo cp'.... what does '-a' do?
[04:25] <intelikey> archive
[04:25] <binaryflow> james_xxx: The group name is usually created the same as your username.  If your username is john then try john.john
[04:25] <josh_> and can someone tell me how to make a passworded zip?
[04:25] <ver1oren> ati x800xt all in wonder
[04:25] <intelikey> keep permissions and ownership   recursivle
[04:27] <reddwolf78> restrited media!
[04:27] <Xanith> Ok, I reformatted my storage drive to ext3, but now only root can make changes to it...
[04:27] <Xanith> how do i make it so my normal user can write to it as well?
[04:27] <reddwolf78> restricted!
[04:27] <Jucato> !mp3
[04:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <james_xxx> man i hate the idea of reinstalling.....  am not aware of anything that i could have done to screw this system up like this....
[04:28] <flaccid> lol now i'm watching dr. phil
[04:28] <intelikey> james_xxx Jucato would you test this for me please,  sudo echo ~     and make sure it's your home and not roots.   my sudo can't run.
[04:28] <TommyMann> I have a newer machine and I only have one partition with the kernel at the front
[04:28] <reddwolf78> thanks
[04:29] <TommyMann> So how do I overcome this issue
[04:29] <Jucato> intelikey: it displays my (not root's) ~
[04:29] <intelikey> james_xxx sorry.  meant just Jucato
[04:29] <james_xxx> same here, intelikey
[04:29] <james_xxx> ok
[04:29] <intelikey> Jucato thanks.
[04:29] <ver1oren> i can't get out of 640x480. i have an ati x800xt all-in-wonder, can someone please help?
[04:30] <intelikey> james_xxx ty also
[04:30] <intelikey> :)
[04:30] <Jucato> intelikey: sudo su -c "echo ~" returns "/root"
[04:30] <Jucato> intelikey: also logging into a root terminal (sudo -i) and doing echo ~ returns /root
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> 'creative quoting'
[04:30] <intelikey> i was pretty sure that without the quotes the shell would expand it pre/exec  but wanted confirmation.
[04:31] <kalagaraz> How do I terminate an application
[04:31] <kalagaraz> some video program froze up and I can't close it
[04:31] <intelikey> killall app
[04:31] <intelikey> sudo killall app
[04:31] <kalagaraz> I don't know the process name
[04:32] <intelikey> the app name
[04:32] <Jucato> kalagaraz: or press Ctrl+Alt+Esc, then when you cursor becomes a skull, click on the app
[04:32] <Jucato> s/you/your
[04:32] <Jucato> just make sure not to click on the desktop... :P
[04:32] <kalagaraz> thanks :)
[04:33] <intelikey> now how to i logout of xfce4-session   when it has no menus  ????     (i don't want to just kill x)
[04:33] <Jucato> hm...
[04:33] <Hawkwind> Xfce has menus
[04:33] <Hawkwind> Has plenty of them
[04:33] <intelikey> Hawkwind when it's working correctly it does....
[04:34] <Jucato> imho it has one of the most customizable menu systems... (you can create your own menu)
[04:34] <intelikey> mine has none.
[04:34] <Hawkwind> killall xfce ?  killall xdm ?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Same with fluxbox :)
[04:34] <james_xxx> there is an xdm???
[04:34] <flaccid> google might reveal a command
[04:34] <intelikey> Hawkwind note the parenthetical ^
[04:34] <Hawkwind> james_xxx: Certainly
[04:34] <james_xxx> Hawkwind: had no idea
[04:34] <Jucato> of course, but xdm doesn't mean "Xfce Display Manager"
[04:34] <intelikey> i could [alt] [ctrl] [bs] 
[04:35] <james_xxx> ahhh
[04:35] <james_xxx> i didn't think xfce had a display manager
[04:35] <Jucato> intelikey: is there a dbus counterpart to KDE's "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout"
[04:35] <intelikey> it does.
[04:35] <Hawkwind> james_xxx: It doesn't
[04:35] <Jucato> james_xxx: it doesn't
[04:35] <james_xxx> ok
[04:35] <Jucato> intelikey: xdm is "X Display Manager"
[04:35] <james_xxx> gotcha
[04:35] <Jucato> not Xfce's, but X's
[04:36] <james_xxx> that makes more sense
[04:36] <intelikey> Jucato no.  it uses dbus  but no dbus here
[04:36] <Jucato> oh...
[04:36] <intelikey> Jucato xfwm is the wm for xfce
[04:37] <james_xxx> this is so retarded, lol. i bet it takes a 45 minutes for my home dir to copy to this external HD
[04:37] <Jucato> he was asking about DM's not WM's
[04:37] <kalagaraz> I just restarted my whole computer
[04:37] <kalagaraz> and adept is still saying something else is using apt-ge tor whatever
[04:37] <kalagaraz> and won't let me make changes
[04:37] <Jucato> kalagaraz: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in Konsole
[04:37] <intelikey> yes and xdm is the dm that ships with xfce/xubuntu
[04:38] <Jucato> err... I meant type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in Konsole
[04:38] <Jucato> intelikey: yes, and it's not Xfce's. it's X's. because Xfce doesn't have it's own DM like GNOME or KDE
[04:39] <intelikey> it has it's own in as much as it uses xdm
[04:39] <james_xxx> ok, when i view the new home dir that i copied to an external HD, MANY of the folders are locked.... when i run konquieror as root, those folders just do not appear lol
[04:40] <intelikey> do not appear.   i.e.  hidden
[04:40] <intelikey>  .blah   .blahblahblah
[04:40] <james_xxx> ok lemme look, you're probably right about that
[04:42] <james_xxx> intelikey: once agin you are correct.... and i should have thought og that. i'm just to downtrodden by the idea of re-installing lol
[04:43] <intelikey> konsole; "sudo chown -R `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` /media/usbdisk  "
[04:43] <james_xxx> sorry for the many typos
[04:43] <james_xxx> ty intelikey
[04:43] <intelikey> np
[04:45] <flaccid> how to text search kmenu items?
[04:45] <james_xxx> intelikey: are all of those apostrophes to be typed as well?
[04:45] <intelikey> yep
[04:45] <flaccid> kde menu editor seems to lack a search?
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> flaccid, what are you looking for?
[04:46] <flaccid> a possible menu item
[04:46] <flaccid> see if it is there or not
[04:46] <intelikey> copy and paste the line     right mouse highlight  click the konsole window and both click
[04:46] <intelikey> or if three button mouse middle click pastes
[04:47] <james_xxx> intelikey: if you are talking to me... i am on a different PC than the one where i am running these commands
[04:47] <james_xxx> so i have to type it all in
[04:47] <intelikey> james_xxx oh.  no copy and paste there...   then make sure that  ` == '       and yes all within  " "
[04:47] <Admiral_Chicago> flaccid, what is it called?
[04:47] <james_xxx> the PC that i am doing all of this on has no internet access anymore.... for who knows what reason
[04:48] <intelikey> errr  ` != '
[04:48] <flaccid> itk could be called anything
[04:48] <flaccid> tvtime in this case
[04:48] <flaccid> i want to search the kmenu
[04:48] <intelikey> eeek   i hope i don't start that...
[04:48] <kalagaraz> eh I can't find a working tool to record video of my desktop
[04:48] <flaccid> indeed
[04:49] <intelikey> you can edit it by hand if you like
[04:49] <flaccid> i don't want to edit it by hand
[04:49] <flaccid> SEARCH :)
[04:49] <flaccid> oh you aint talking to me i guess
[04:50] <flaccid> heh
[04:50] <Jucato> intelikey: of course, but then what good would a GUI menu editor be if you'd have to edit things by hand in the end?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> kalagaraz,  there used to be some recorder that recorded  VNC sessions to make demo/tutorial movies
[04:50] <Jucato> flaccid: maybe you're actually looking for a search feature in K Menu, not KMenuEdit?
[04:50] <flaccid> i'll be happy with any way to search the kmenu..
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> flaccid, maybe you can submit that as on the KDE wishlist
[04:51] <flaccid> Admiral_Chicago: where do i do that?
[04:51] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: if all goes well, the new kickoff just might be the new KDE menu...
[04:51] <Jucato> flaccid: I think the Kbfx kicker plugin can add a search function for K Menu entries
[04:52] <flaccid> is that the mac os x style panel or something else?
[04:52] <flaccid> !k!tv
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k!tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <mad_man> prob with ktorrent | will not fire-up | reinstalled and still will not fire-up. any idea"s?
[04:52] <Jucato> flaccid: no. it's a plugin/applet for Kicker
[04:53] <dennister> have to reboot now pps, see if this works better
[04:53] <dennister> bback soon
[04:54] <flaccid> cool i'll check it out
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> mad_man,  run it from a terminal and get an error message or 2 perhaps?
[04:55] <intelikey> error:  could not look up internet address for localhost, this will prevent xfce from opperating correctly, it may be possable to correct this by adding localhost to /etc/hosts on your system.     but cat /etc/hosts ==>> "127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       localhost "     is this error 'dbus' related?
[04:56] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: does your hosts file have 127.0.0.1 localhost?
[04:57] <mad_man> Dr_Willis: msg=ktorrent is already running! but where ? not on screen or panel
[04:57] <intelikey> look and see
[04:57] <LeeJunFan> oh yeah.
[04:57] <LeeJunFan> sry
[04:57] <intelikey> np
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> mad_man,  try logging out. or check ' ps -ax | grep torrent '
[04:57] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: he needs to log out? :)
[04:57] <Jucato> oh..
[04:58] <mad_man> Dr_Willis: did the log-out and hard boot.
[04:58] <Jucato> darn... my brain is lagging... it just interpreted "log out" as "reboot" :P
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> i cant think of a better way to kill off all his hidden apps/reset the pid files.. heh..
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Windows Answer = reboot
[04:58] <intelikey> Jucato that's the M$ brain bug
[04:58] <Jucato> heh
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> then reformat, and reinstall..
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> then reformat and reinstall AGAIn just in case
[04:59] <intelikey> Dr_Willis that's just for M$ ???    heck i reload linux twice a weak whether it needs it or not...
[04:59] <intelikey> :)
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> I got it in a vmware session. :P
[05:00] <mad_man> Dr_Willis: have msg from ps -ax | grep torrent where shall i paste info ? here ?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> mad_man,  if you see a ktorrent process - then KILL IT!
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Kill it BIg time!
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Make it beg for mercy!
[05:01] <Jucato> Ctrl+Esc and look for "ktorrent" if it's there, then kill it
[05:01] <mad_man> lol
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> you sure it snot just running on a different desktop. :P
[05:01] <intelikey> ps -A x | grep grep
[05:02] <intelikey> :)
[05:02] <shadowr3d> hello
[05:02] <shadowr3d> everyone
[05:02] <mad_man> Jucato: ctrl+esc does not work
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-esc dont do diddle here either
[05:03] <Jucato> hmmm.. that's strange...
[05:03] <Jucato> Ctrl+Esc should launch the process monitor
[05:03] <Jucato> ProcessTable, I mean
[05:03] <shadowr3d> helloi
[05:03] <mad_man> 6836 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep grep
[05:03] <shadowr3d> #winehq
[05:03] <mad_man> how do i kill
[05:04] <mad_man> how
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[05:05] <shadowr3d> how do i install limewire
[05:05] <shadowr3d> i downloaded it already
[05:05] <mad_man> ok going for a hard boot
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> mad_man, sudo killall <process)
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> shadowr3d, use frost wire
[05:06] <intelikey> mad_man hehhe    sorry you misunderstood    i meant that grep might have found it's self in the first search   "ps -ax | grep torrent " <--- could have found it's self.
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> and it is in the reposetories
[05:06] <shadowr3d> huh
[05:06] <shadowr3d> ubotu frost wire
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frost wire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <shadowr3d> wats frost wire
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !info frostwire
[05:06] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !frostwire
[05:06] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:06] <Jucato> !frostwire
[05:06] <Audimage> I am a current Ubuntu user interested in Kubunt, and i am curious what (if any) difference there are between the two other than KDE vs GNOME
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, its not there
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  it always shows itself. :P
[05:07] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean it's not there?
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Audimage, applications, libraries art
[05:07] <intelikey> not if you pipe it through  | grep -v grep
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, ubotu doesn't recognize it
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> but you cant kill itself.. since its allready done by the time ya get to type kill. :P
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> it needs to be added to ubotu
[05:07] <Audimage> so, it isn't ubuntu with KDE, it is completely different?
[05:07] <intelikey> find not thy self young app
[05:07] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: it does recognize !frostwire. look above
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Audimage, Ubuntu uses GNOME by default
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> frostwire is nuce
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Nice
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ad
[05:08] <Audimage> i know admiral
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Audimage, but it has official branches
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> like Edubunti, Xubuntu and Kubuntu
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Pornubuntu
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> s/Edubunti/Edubuntu
[05:08] <Audimage> admiral, i know...what i am asking is if the GUI is the only difference between the branches, or if it was more than that
[05:08] <Homer> Audimage: it's ubuntu with KDE :P
[05:09] <intelikey> so howto test dns lookup  or what ever is failing that x don't know where localhost lives  ?
[05:09] <Audimage> ok, thanks homer :)
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Audimage,  bascicially its the gui and perhaps a few other misc packages instaleld by default.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> I always install all the desktops.. because i  got uber-amount of hard drive space
[05:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Audimage, not really much off a differnce, just where things are placed and such
[05:09] <mad_man> Admiral_Chicago: fist time using killall, worked like a charm. i very much like that command
[05:10] <Audimage> can i just install KDE on Ubuntu and be just the same?
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> its the same base system but different graphics
[05:10] <Homer> Audimage: yes pretty much
[05:10] <Audimage> alright, thanks
[05:10] <Homer> in fact you can convert Kubuntu to Ubuntu and visa versa
[05:10] <intelikey> Audimage i'd sujest it.
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> mad_man, its a good command
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Audimage, the command is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <Audimage> what do i search for in synaptic...just KDE or is there an official package
[05:10] <Homer> yup
[05:10] <Audimage> thanks admiral
[05:11] <mad_man> i will keep that command very handy
[05:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Audimage, or look for kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[05:11] <intelikey> Audimage or sudo apt-get install kde
[05:11] <Homer> kubuntu-desktop has some custom art
[05:12] <intelikey> yeah it does.  and i don't care for the cuctom art  but that's openion
[05:12] <intelikey> and i've got one.
[05:12] <intelikey> just ask me
[05:12] <Audimage> when i type <sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop> i get 2 errors, "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:12] <Audimage> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[05:13] <kalagaraz> you have adept running
[05:13] <intelikey> synaptic ^
[05:13] <Audimage> ahh
[05:13] <Jucato> (or synaptic)
[05:13] <Audimage> thanks
[05:14] <intelikey> so howto test dns lookup  or what ever is failing that x don't know where localhost lives  ?
[05:14] <Audimage> i am a new convert to linux from windows, i've been using it for a week or so
[05:14] <Audimage> it kicks ass, one of the reasons it is so great is the community
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> localhost? isent that definded in the /etc/hosts file?
[05:14] <intelikey> it is
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> yea the community is pretty great
[05:14] <Jucato> community? what community?
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> but i didn't like when i was trying to use samba. i got NO love
[05:15] <intelikey> but x cant find an internet address for localhost
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> whatever, it happens
[05:15] <Audimage> ubuntu is the only distro i've tried
[05:15] <intelikey> samba is not a distro
[05:15] <Audimage> i've got suse, mandrake, and redhat...but haven't checked them out yet
[05:16] <omar> how to configure my evolution, I follow the steps but it still doesn't work, also, when I open evolution it doesn't ask me for a password , weird isn't it?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis>  that 'using samba' book is a must read for any dedicated samba user. :P
[05:17] <Audimage> after i get kubuntu installed, how do i switch between KDE and GNOME?
[05:17] <Homer> I like ubuntu cause of it's package manager
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> Audimage,  the login screen has a menu item for it.
[05:17] <Jucato> Audimage: there will be an option under Sessions in the login screen
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> and any other desktop/window managers will show up in the menu as well
[05:17] <Homer> yeah
[05:17] <Jucato> Homer: you're free to install Synaptic in Kubuntu :)
[05:17] <Homer> feel free to install fvwm95
[05:17] <Homer> heh
[05:18] <intelikey> homer yeah the debian package manager is pretty good i guess
[05:18] <Homer> Adept is pretty good
[05:18] <omar> how to configure my evolution, I follow the steps but it still doesn't work, also, when I open evolution it doesn't ask me for a password , weird isn't it?
[05:19] <Jucato> omar: you might have better luck in #ubuntu, even if you are running evolution in Kubuntu
[05:19] <intelikey> omar evolution questio..... dito Jucato
[05:20] <Homer> whats that game where you fight a evil robot army running microsoft windows
[05:20] <intelikey> linux
[05:20] <Jucato> lol
[05:20] <Jucato> I was about to answer that
[05:20] <intelikey> :)
[05:21] <Homer> heh
[05:21] <Audimage> how many of you are dual-booting with windows, and how many are sole-ly linux
[05:21] <intelikey> they say great minds think alike.    and great hind ends stink alike....
[05:21] <omar> jucato: so I should install another program
[05:21] <photoguy> duel here
[05:21] <Jucato> lol @ intelikey
[05:21] <intelikey> Audimage pool  ?
[05:21] <photoguy> dual here
[05:21] <Jucato> omar: KDE has KMail for it's e-mail client
[05:21] <intelikey> Audimage i dual *buntu mandrake
[05:22] <Audimage> intelikey: poolo?
[05:22] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you alive!!!! :P
[05:22] <Hobbsee> last i knew i was
[05:22] <Audimage> *pool?
[05:22] <omar> jucato: ok lets check and be back
[05:22] <intelikey> poll
[05:22] <omar> jucato: thanks
[05:22] <shadowr3d> how do i play mp3 files sudo apt-get install what
[05:22] <intelikey> !mp3
[05:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <intelikey> -  But please use free formats if you can:
[05:22] <intelikey> -  But please use free formats if you can:
[05:23] <ewan> Hi!
[05:23] <Jucato> IF you can :P
[05:23] <intelikey> if you can
[05:23] <Audimage> i still have a windows partition...but i just use it for GW, and i might check out cedega, so then i wouldn't need windows
[05:23] <intelikey> and you can.
[05:23] <Jucato> if YOU CAN, even :)
[05:23] <ewan> just woundered if anyone know of a good network monitoring program?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> knetworkmanager
[05:23] <Jucato> I have XP for mmorpg's. all of them (asian ones) don't run on Wine...
[05:24] <Homer> no seriously
[05:24] <Homer> there is a game where you play as Tux
[05:24] <Homer> and you fight evil microsoft robots
[05:24] <aaraneda> hola
[05:24] <Homer> the storyline is like the matrix
[05:24] <intelikey> hola aaraneda espanol ?
[05:25] <aaraneda> chileno
[05:25] <Homer> all the robots running microsoft windows revolted against humanity and it is Tux to save the day
[05:25] <Homer> heh
[05:25] <intelikey> ah
[05:25] <aaraneda> tu eres espaol
[05:25] <Homer> i forgot the name of the game :\
[05:25] <intelikey> no  englasia
[05:25] <james_xxx> ok you guys... my story gets stranger.... i do not think now that i will have to re-install. i have both my wireless and ethernet cards working again... but here is the weird part... when my network cards are disabled, gnomebaker works. when they are enabled, gnomebaker does not work. i know it sounds crazy, but would anyone have an idea why this might be???
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[05:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:25] <aaraneda> como?
[05:26] <Audimage> intelikey: why are you running *buntu and mandrake? i can see the benefit of running 2 different types of OSes but i don't see the benefit of running 2 distros of the same
[05:26] <james_xxx> i don't know if other gnome apps would also act this way...
[05:26] <Jucato> Audimage: each distro is unique
[05:26] <shadowr3d> i cant do it can someone walk me throught the proccess of getting my amarok to play mp3 please
[05:26] <intelikey> Audimage and you've been around linux how long now ?
[05:26] <Jucato> Mandriva is very different from *buntu
[05:27] <Audimage> a week
[05:27] <intelikey> that's why you don't see it yet.
[05:27] <Audimage> thats why i am asking so many questions
[05:27] <shadowr3d> #amarok
[05:27] <james_xxx> if anyone has an i idea, please clue me in...
[05:27] <intelikey> understood.
[05:28] <Audimage> how is it so different? is it just the apps?
[05:28] <Audimage> well, any distro really
[05:28] <intelikey> because i like mandrake better than *buntu  but,  it's old now in computer time.     and i like to always have two systems so i can fix one from the other if needed    and the way i tinker with the system it's needed...
[05:29] <hltai> shadowr3d: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[05:29] <shadowr3d> got it thanks
[05:29] <SpAwN> hello all...ive got a usb flsh drive..it works fine...but now i put it in...and dmesg shows it as /dev/sdb1 but /dev/sdb1 doesnt exist...only sda*
[05:29] <SpAwN> ive tired unplugin replugin the drive i...it still doesnt show up
[05:30] <osiris> did you put it in a different usb port than before ?
[05:30] <SpAwN> sup osiris
[05:30] <SpAwN> and no..same port
[05:30] <osiris> notta
[05:30] <osiris> odd
[05:30] <intelikey> Audimage it's not much different at the core.  both use the linux kernel and the basic gnu apps   but above that there is little that can be called the same.
[05:30] <SpAwN> yea quite odd...
[05:31] <intelikey> Audimage starting with the package management and working upwords it would be easier to cound the simularities than the differances.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> try 'sudo fdisk -l' see if its seen.
[05:31] <intelikey> count ^
[05:31] <SpAwN> Dr_Willis, all sda*
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> SpAwN,  odd.
[05:32] <intelikey> now i've been off toppic long enough.
[05:32] <SpAwN> hehe
[05:32] <mad_man> The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it
[05:32] <Audimage> intelikey i just don't understand why both would be necessary...the same apps are avaliable for most distros
[05:33] <Audimage> mabye i should just install it and check it out
[05:33] <Audimage> *maybe
[05:33] <intelikey> mabye so
[05:35] <ryan_> ho do i change my screen resolution
[05:36] <intelikey> ho?  oh!  you can reconfigure X  or you can use the app in the wm to set it.  look in the menu
[05:36] <jmichaelx> ok... i am installing ubuntu-desktop on this kubuntu box... i keep getting this error "** (process:11764): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed"
[05:36] <jmichaelx> what does that mean?
[05:38] <intelikey> means that process failed.     but does it error out or keep going with a warning ?
[05:38] <jmichaelx> i got that error probably a hundred times
[05:38] <jmichaelx> intelikey: no idea... i guess it goes on
[05:39] <intelikey> until it stops and tells you something went wrong    just watch it.
[05:39] <jmichaelx> ok
[05:39] <SpAwN> yea my computer wont make the /dev/sdb1
[05:40] <intelikey> SpAwN 'cd /dev ;MAKEDEV sd ;cd'
[05:40] <intelikey> as root of course
[05:40] <SpAwN> i plug in my usb drive....dmesg shows this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/107
[05:40] <SpAwN> intelikey, what will that do exactly?
[05:41] <jmichaelx> i thought (perhaps stupidy) that installing ubuntu-desktop might solve some issues i have been having, like an apparent conflict between my network cards and gnome apps, i.e. gnomebaker. if i disble my network cards, gnomebaker owrks, if they are enabled, it does not work
[05:41] <jmichaelx> something is very messed up
[05:41] <rindolf> This link - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_network_connections - tells me I need to run System -> Administration -> Networking but this option is not available in my Kubuntu system. Where can I find it?
[05:41] <rindolf> I'm using Dapper.
[05:41] <SpAwN> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/108    ...this is after the dmesg command
[05:42] <Xanith> whats the command u can type in konsole that will show everything thats running and it like refreshes according to whats using the most cpu and stuff
[05:42] <Xanith> i forget
[05:43] <intelikey> but isn't usb mounted in proc/something ?
[05:44] <SpAwN> intelikey, umm...not sure...ive alwasy plugged in my usb flashdrive and it would show up as a /dev/sd*
[05:46] <SpAwN> intelikey, well i did that command unplugged it and re plugged it....still nothing in /dev/ but it still is saying its sdb1
[05:47] <tariq> anyone using kde4 on kubuntu ?
[05:47] <tariq> i keep getting seg fault ?
[05:47] <sinpath> micromedaiflash
[05:47] <sinpath> !micromediaflash
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about micromediaflash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <alexicon> does anyone know what package libGL.la is included with
[05:48] <alexicon> macromedia
[05:48] <alexicon> !flash
[05:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:48] <Xanith> is there divx codecs for linux?
[05:48] <alexicon> yes
[05:48] <alexicon> get libxine-extracodecs
[05:49] <tariq> again , kde4 on edgy ?
[05:49] <alexicon> and w32codecs
[05:49] <tariq> anyone ?
[05:49] <alexicon> !divx
[05:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <SpAwN> well this sucks...........i cant get my homework done...cuz its all on my flashdrive.................................
[05:50] <llxcamxll> What would be the best program to rip cd's
[05:50] <intelikey> SpAwN  for Q in /dev/sd* ;do echo $Q ;dd if=$Q count=1 | less ;done                 see if it's there.
[05:50] <alexicon> k3b i like
[05:50] <alexicon> for ripping
[05:50] <Jucato> for audio cd's you could use kaudiocreator to rip them or the audiocd:/ io slave
[05:50] <SpAwN> intelikey, what do i run? "for Q in /dev/sd* ;do echo $Q ;dd if=$Q count=1 | less ;done" ?
[05:51] <sinpath> how do i get micromeadia flash and java working for linux
[05:51] <SpAwN> !java > sinpath
[05:51] <SpAwN> !flash > sinpath
[05:51] <Xanith> is there like a website i can go to that shows me all this stuff thats on the repsoitories? and like a description?
[05:52] <Xanith> kinda like how gentoo has packages.gentoo.org....
[05:52] <intelikey> SpAwN or  for Q in /dev/sd* ;do dd if=$Q of=/dev/null && echo $Q ;done      if you like
[05:52] <alexicon> use gentoos info Xanith
[05:52] <alexicon> adept gives package details
[05:52] <alexicon> theres an apt website too
[05:52] <alexicon> maybe thats what youre looking for
[05:52] <intelikey> ooops that's a little long.    add count=1  to the dd string
[05:52] <Xanith> yea but i cant search for something...
[05:52] <alexicon> packages.gentoo is prettier tho
[05:52] <alexicon> search? google
[05:52] <Xanith> so say like i wanted to look for dvd authoring tools
[05:53] <Jucato> packages.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <rindolf> This link - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_network_connections - tells me I need to run System -> Administration -> Networking but this option is not available in my Kubuntu system. Where can I find it?
[05:53] <SpAwN> intelikey, hmm well there is only sda.......and dmesg shows my usb drive as sdb1.....so somthing is very wrong....
[05:53] <Jucato> Xanith: http://packages.ubuntu.com or you could also try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror
[05:53] <intelikey> ok that's nice.
[05:53] <SpAwN> intelikey, all that command showed was sda*
[05:53] <Xanith> thanks!
[05:54] <mathieu> anyone using guarddog here?
[05:54] <lotusleaf> mathieu: who needs guarddog when you have openbsd?
[05:54] <pete> guys, do you know when (K)ubuntu will release firefox1.5.0.7? They bypassed 1.5.0.6 because it had to do w/windows only.
[05:54] <mathieu> lotus:do not start the flame wars...
[05:54] <lotusleaf> pete: it's easy to compile
[05:55] <lotusleaf> mathieu: please don't accuse ;)
[05:55] <pete> i know but i prefer to use ubuntu's version
[05:55] <Jucato> pete: probably soon. they might be busy with Edgy right now
[05:55] <lotusleaf> pete: there's a thread on the forums about this
[05:55] <lotusleaf> pete: I believe in the cafe?
[05:55] <pete> what's that?
[05:56] <Jucato> pete: Edgy Eft is the next release (out in October, hopefully)
[05:56] <pete> thanks guys!
[05:56] <lotusleaf> pete: yw
[05:57] <intelikey> i don't expect to ever see edgy
[05:57] <Jucato> aw too bad :P
[05:58] <intelikey> :>
[05:59] <jmichaelx> ok, it's me again. would anyone have an idea as to why i am unable to get gnome apps to run in kubuntu?  it seems like they only refuse to run when my wireless card is enabled. however, when i switch to gnome, those apps will work on the same PC...
[05:59] <lotusleaf> dapper won't mind if you give edgy a little love
[05:59] <intelikey> jmichaelx no  but it sounds like a bug.
[05:59] <SpAwN> has anyone heard of kubuntu not making the /dev/sdb or w/e when u plug in a usb device?.....this seems like a stupid problem....
[06:00] <intelikey> it's not kubuntu that makes device nodes.  it's udev
[06:00] <SpAwN> well is udev know to do this?
[06:01] <jmichaelx> intelikey: it must be. i have another PC with k/x/ubuntu (all three) installed, and it has no similar problem. this PC did not have this problem until i installed wireless
[06:01] <intelikey> if it's told to.   MAKEDEV
[06:01] <SpAwN> intelikey, i did that command....the cd /dev/; MAKEDEV; cd
[06:01] <intelikey> jmichaelx umm hmm
[06:01] <intelikey> SpAwN as root ?
[06:02] <intelikey> only root can make device nodes in /dev
[06:02] <SpAwN> intelikey, yea
[06:02] <SpAwN> cd /dev ;MAKEDEV sd ;cd was the exact command i ran
[06:02] <SpAwN> as root
[06:02] <intelikey> "cd /dev/; MAKEDEV; cd"   is not what i said.    "cd /dev/; MAKEDEV sd ; cd "
[06:02] <intelikey> yep
[06:03] <jmichaelx> well, i need to ask lupine about this... he helped get my wifi going several weeks ago
[06:03] <SpAwN> intelikey, should i do this when the usb drive is plugged in or not plugged in?
[06:03] <jmichaelx> i imagine that this issue started then, but i had not noticed it until now...
[06:03] <intelikey> might need  ./M*    you don't have ./ in your path by default    and pluged should work
[06:04] <intelikey> cd /dev/; ./MAKEDEV sd ; cd
[06:05] <intelikey> i don't like udev for that very reason.  i found too many times i was making the device nodes by hand.   and each reboot looses them.
[06:05] <SpAwN> intelikey, ran that last command....no errors......plugged my drive back in and nothing... udev is not making anything
[06:06] <SpAwN> intelikey, is there a replacement for udev?
[06:06] <intelikey> i simply don't use.
[06:06] <SpAwN> intelikey, then what do u do?
[06:06] <intelikey> but that's not recommended
[06:06] <intelikey> static device nodes
[06:07] <intelikey> you could have them  check /dev/.static/dev/
[06:07] <SpAwN> i just wanna get my homework done :/
[06:07] <intelikey> check ls /dev/.static/dev/sdb*
[06:08] <SpAwN> i see alot of stuff i thee
[06:08] <SpAwN> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/109
[06:08] <intelikey> that's what is in /dev until udev moves it.
[06:08] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know if winamp works for Linux
[06:08] <intelikey> and i don't need to see them.
[06:09] <SpAwN> i see alot of sdb* 's in there is that normal?...
[06:09] <intelikey> try mounting /dev/.static/dev/sdb1    or what ever it is
[06:09] <intelikey> yes that's normal
[06:10] <SpAwN> intelikey, will that get cleaned out...i see sdb1-15 i there....i dont think any of my devices are sdb15
[06:10] <intelikey> no it's "static"   stays put.
[06:10] <SpAwN> intelikey, ahh its normal
[06:10] <intelikey> unless you awax them.
[06:11] <SpAwN> mount: /dev/.static/dev/sdb1 is not a valid block device
[06:11] <helter> Hi friends, need some help, how can I install a new locale and set it as my default locale?
[06:12] <alexicon> helter: in kcontrol
[06:12] <alexicon> accesibility
[06:12] <intelikey> spawn sudo fdisk -l /dev/.static/dev/sdb*
[06:12] <intelikey> or sd*
[06:12] <helter> isn't a safer way to do it with dpkg or something like that
[06:12] <llxcamxll> how can i use my usb connection to connect to my router????
[06:12] <helter> I want to set up the locale for the whole installation
[06:12] <helter> i mean at the ubuntu level
[06:12] <alexicon> is your locale not listed??
[06:12] <helter> yeah, I want to install a japanese locale
[06:12] <helter> I have only english ones
[06:13] <alexicon> you didnt chose it when you installed?
[06:13] <SpAwN> intelikey, it returned nothing
[06:13] <intelikey> module missing.
[06:13] <llxcamxll> anyone
[06:13] <helter> yeah I didnt
[06:13] <SpAwN> hmmmmmmmm
[06:13] <intelikey> the kernel is not recognizing the drive
[06:14] <intelikey> i don't know if usb  or scsi  or what module to look for
[06:14] <intelikey> SpAwN you can search modules    modprobe -l | less
[06:14] <llxcamxll> little disappointed no usb support
[06:14] <SpAwN> hmm k intelikey
[06:15] <SpAwN> intelikey, thats for your help =-d
[06:15] <intelikey> i don't have a kernel or any modules installed so i can't search for you.
[06:16] <intelikey> np    hope you get it all streightened out.     and most likely inserting the proper module will trigger udev also.
[06:16] <SpAwN> intelikey, im looking for a usb or scsi and then modprobe it??"?
[06:16] <intelikey> yeah
[06:16] <intelikey> hopefully the one for your device      101
[06:17] <intelikey> looking at dmesg might help in that search
[06:17] <intelikey> lshw also
[06:18] <llxcamxll> !shw
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <flaccid> !lshw
[06:18] <ubotu> lshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3 (dapper), package size 183 kB, installed size 468 kB
[06:18] <intelikey> SpAwN after doing this one time.   next time you will know the module name and know what to do.      also for this installations duration   adding the module name to /etc/modules  will be a permanant fix.
[06:19] <llxcamxll> can anyone help me with usb
[06:19] <flaccid> llxcamxll: start with lsusb
[06:19] <SpAwN> intelikey, ...just had an idea.....i restarted udev....and it reloaded the modules i think....cuz now it works
[06:20] <SpAwN> intelikey, it said reloading yada yada....then replugged the drive...and bingo
[06:20] <intelikey> SpAwN lsmod and see what it loaded.  then add it to  /etc/modules
[06:20] <intelikey> first thing listed is last installed
[06:21] <SpAwN> hmm
[06:21] <SpAwN> cfbfillrect             4384  1 vga16fb
[06:21] <SpAwN> is the last....but i restarted it 2 times...
[06:21] <SpAwN> 1st time i wasnt sure it worked right...so i did it again
[06:21] <intelikey> other end of the list.   "<intelikey> first thing listed is last installed"  ^
[06:22] <SpAwN> intelikey, ahh misread that one ;D
[06:22] <SpAwN> nls_utf8                2272  2
[06:22] <SpAwN> is the 1st line
[06:22] <intelikey> next one
[06:22] <SpAwN> ipt_TOS                 2400  0
[06:22] <intelikey> it's using that one for the fs on the drive
[06:23] <intelikey> next
[06:23] <SpAwN> xt_multiport            3648  0
[06:23] <intelikey> there
[06:23] <fyrmedic> OK I'm sure I'll get flamed but I screwed up my xorg.cong and sync rates for the display and now I can't see anything and logging in under recovery won't accept my password. Any thoughts?
[06:23] <SpAwN> intelikey, so thats most likely the module that was needed?
[06:24] <intelikey> SpAwN most likely that and maybe the one after also
[06:24] <intelikey> but that looks like usb drivers
[06:24] <SpAwN> k ill try adding them....... intelikey thanks for ya time/help...its appreciated =D
[06:24] <intelikey> any time
[06:26] <intelikey> fyrmedic boot and at the login just hit [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]    and login on the console.   (doesn't matter if you can see the gui or not)  then    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:26] <llxcamxll> i done lsusb, but like what after that
[06:26] <intelikey> that's how you fix it.
[06:26] <llxcamxll> huh?
[06:26] <intelikey> llxcamxll not you.
[06:27] <llxcamxll> oh
[06:27] <fyrmedic> cool thanks.
[06:27] <intelikey> np
[06:27] <llxcamxll> can you help me then dudes
[06:28] <intelikey> flaccid you gona finish what you started with llxcamxll ?
[06:28] <cpk2> so you did lsusb... it probably spit a bunch of crap back out at you, what did you want it to do?
[06:29] <llxcamxll> i want to use my usb to connect to my router
[06:29] <llxcamxll> it said it picked up efficient networks
[06:30] <llxcamxll> is there a way to network with the usb
[06:30] <flaccid> i just on an important phone call, so i guess not
[06:31] <Max_-> hi! what is the "ms outlook" of linux???
[06:31] <stefano> ciao
[06:35] <Tm_T> Max_-: try kontact
[06:35] <cpk2> Max_-: there are all sorts of things you can try
[06:35] <Tm_T> though I don't know what you mean by "ms outlook"
[06:35] <cpk2> theres evolution as well
[06:35] <Max_-> ok, thx!
[06:37] <llxcamxll> cp2k no ideas on the usb networking?
[06:38] <cpk2> what router is it?
[06:38] <cpk2> or modem
[06:39] <llxcamxll> speedstream adsl modem
[06:39] <llxcamxll> do i just gotta install the linux version of the speedstream drivers
[06:40] <cpk2> you do know the wiki has usb adsl modem entries?
[06:40] <llxcamxll> nah i didn't
[06:40] <cpk2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem enjoy
[06:40] <cpk2> but yes you do need drivers
[06:52] <ep> I installed flashplugin-nonfree using apt-get with no complaint.   However flash does not work in firefox.  Do I need something else?
[06:53] <InteliWasp> what do i need to do to make a bridge between 2 network devices?
[06:54] <reddwolf78> !wine
[06:54] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:55] <lotusleaf> reddwolf78: #winehq ;)
[06:56] <reddwolf78> have a friend here woundering about wine can you tell him about what wine does
[06:57] <plugs> help! i can't figure out how to make a video dvd with k3b. i have two avi's. dont they need to be vob's and bup's and whatever?
[06:58] <lotusleaf> reddwolf78: have you tried the wine channel at #winehq ? In addition, http://www.winehq.com
[06:58] <ep> about:plugin in firefox doesn't show anything on flash.  Yet I installed the package flashplugin-nonfree (on the command line) and had no errors. What's wrong?
[06:58] <InteliWasp> !bridge
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <ep> sun's java works at least
[07:00] <flaccid> w0a, this dj comp im going in.. you get a generous 15mins to play heh
[07:01] <InteliWasp> !network
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <plugs> can anyone help me to burn a video dvd?
[07:06] <flaccid> anybody know what # column in frostwire is?
[07:07] <flaccid> sorry what the # column means
[07:07] <ironfroggy> how am i supposed to use the 'Configure Service' option in the kde print settings? it asks for a root password even if im in administrator mode!
[07:07] <InteliWasp> how do i get thunderbird to write to my inbox?
[07:08] <flaccid> !cups
[07:08] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:08] <InteliWasp> !thunderbird
[07:08] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[07:08] <flaccid> ironfroggy: i think there is default password or something, i can't remember
[07:08] <ironfroggy> i know what cups is. how does that help me?
[07:08] <ironfroggy> i thought root had no password?
[07:09] <flaccid> ironfroggy: this is not the system root account, its the cups admin account
[07:09] <ironfroggy> oh
[07:09] <flaccid> if i'm reading you right..
[07:09] <ironfroggy> well maybe im not even in the right place to diagnose my problem
[07:09] <flaccid> whats the prob
[07:09] <ironfroggy> which is print jobs just setting there saying "Processing..." forever and never going anywhere.
[07:09] <ironfroggy> i dont get any errors.
[07:10] <ironfroggy> usually, they just say they printed successfully and i never see anything printed at all, and no activity at the printer one bit.
[07:10] <flaccid> ironfroggy: did you follow the wiki pages from !cups ?
[07:10] <ironfroggy> yes, i had confiugred it just fine a few weeks ago, and now it just doesnt work anymore.
[07:10] <flaccid> ironfroggy: look at the cups logs on both the client and server
[07:12] <ironfroggy> the logs dont show any activity at all
[07:16] <ironfroggy> it doesnt even make a different if the printer is turned off, so something is getting in the way far before it gets there. also, im having the exact same problems on two different boxes.
[07:19] <ep> sudo update-flashplugin give some "installation failed message.  Anything wrong with downloading from Macromedia and running sudo flashplayer-installer?  Should I uninstall ubuntu's non-working-package first?
[07:19] <kunjan> offtopic: anyone know of any channels for assembly language?
[07:19] <ep> #scott_nudds ?
[07:20] <plugs> How do i create a video dvd from an .avi?
[07:20] <cpk2> plugs: probably need to convert to mpeg first i think?
[07:21] <InteliWasp> i just installed thunderbird, is some issues with the linux version?
[07:24] <cpk2> plugs: dvdstyler might have the type of thing you are looking for? i dont know
[07:26] <plugs> cpk2: i'll look into it, thanks
[07:27] <drgonzo> hello all
[07:27] <drgonzo> anyone know what has happened to SmoothSlideSaver   ?
[07:28] <drgonzo> It appears to no longer exist from the site
[07:28] <plugs> help, i get this: "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[07:31] <ironfroggy> what do i do if i cant remember the cups admin password?
[07:31] <flaccid> maybe reinstall cups
[07:31] <flaccid> not sure
[07:31] <ironfroggy> i dont even remember giving it one
[07:31] <flaccid> is the password stored in cups.conf or somewhere else
[07:32] <flaccid> you can ask in #cups
[07:33] <ironfroggy> actually, im in the lpadmin group so shouldnt my own login credentials be sufficient?
[07:34] <cpk2> plugs: what are you installing?
[07:35] <flaccid> ironfroggy: no
[07:35] <flaccid> like i said its the cups admin pass
[07:35] <Jucato> does anyone here know how I can share files between Kubuntu and another Linux distro on VMWare
[07:37] <ironfroggy> dammit i found the problem. it was my routers fault.
[07:37] <ironfroggy> its 24 hour leases lead to frequent IP changes on my LAN.
[07:38] <flaccid> ironfroggy: that affected it how?
[07:38] <Xanith> Is there any software for linux that converts AVI to MPEG2 and burns to a DVD?
[07:39] <plugs> cpk2 i was trying to install dvdstyler
[07:39] <unix_infidel> Jucato: you mean locally?
[07:39] <unix_infidel> or you want to route it through the internet?
[07:40] <Jucato> locally only
[07:40] <unix_infidel> i'm sure you could set it up to see a local share.
[07:40] <Jucato> ok...
[07:40] <unix_infidel> or even try scp.
[07:40] <unix_infidel> we'er all n00bs at something.
[07:40] <flaccid> i know lots of shit
[07:41] <flaccid> but still rate as a noob in freenodeland
[07:41] <unix_infidel> so i'm a productivity n00b. :)
[07:41] <Jucato> heh :)
[07:41] <flaccid> only thing i'm king of is css/html
[07:41] <flaccid> !vista
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <flaccid> thats a good thing, ubotu
[07:42] <Jucato> flaccid: great! at least I know someone who I can approach with css/html questions :P
[07:42] <lotusleaf> !shuttleworth
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shuttleworth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <unix_infidel> flaccid: i dont see you in #web, #css, #httpcraft or any other related channel :P
[07:42] <unix_infidel> you're probably just too good for us :P
[07:43] <Xanith> so i guess no one knows of a program that lets you convert avi to mpeg2 and burn to dvd?
[07:43] <unix_infidel> Xanith: youd need the proper codec i'd guess.
[07:44] <unix_infidel> ffmpeg
[07:44] <Xanith> well like on windows, nero pretty much did it all
[07:44] <Xanith> u put the avi files in, and it'd convert them and burn them for general dvd players on a dvd-r
[07:44] <unix_infidel> Xanith: i dont replace stuff in linux when windows does it with ease.
[07:44] <flaccid> unix_infidel: too busy to be in there helping. i also don't get a long with some people.
[07:44] <cpk2> Xanith: have you done a search in sourceforge?
[07:44] <unix_infidel> some people spend days trying to find a FOSS solution, I just use what works.
[07:44] <flaccid> Jucato: anytime :)
[07:45] <cpk2> Xanith: something like avi to mpeg
[07:45] <Xanith> ok i'll check there
[07:45] <unix_infidel> flaccid: too busy?
[07:45] <flaccid> yes
[07:45] <flaccid> i should be studying atm
[07:45] <unix_infidel> flaccid: CSE major?
[07:45] <flaccid> CSE ?
[07:45] <unix_infidel> computer science?
[07:45] <flaccid> b.computing
[07:46] <flaccid> i'm in australia
[07:46] <Xanith> can u add sourceforge as a repository on Adept?
[07:46] <Xanith> so i can download files straight from sourceforge?
[07:46] <unix_infidel> flaccid: heh, well i guess you can just be my personal web dev helper :)
[07:46] <unix_infidel> you got a portfolio handy, how long you eben doing this stuff?
[07:47] <flaccid> yeah i'm all for helping in this chan, just can't be stuffed with #web, #css etc. anymore
[07:47] <flaccid> no portfolio
[07:47] <flaccid> will make one day. i beend doing this stuff for about 4 years professionally
[07:48] <unix_infidel> flaccid: any websites you are particularly proud of that you could paste or PM?
[07:48] <flaccid> i'm a web standards junky...
[07:48] <unix_infidel> web dev is getting lucrative...fast.
[07:48] <flaccid> unix_infidel: i wish. nothing at the moment.
[07:48] <flaccid> not in australia
[07:49] <flaccid> i'm a client-side specialist. most australian companies believe its too hard to separate duties or don't believe in it. they take the jack of all trades approach despite staffing numbers...
[07:49] <unix_infidel> client side specialist?
[07:49] <flaccid> yeah client-side programmer
[07:49] <flaccid> ie. html/css/ecmascript
[07:50] <unix_infidel> ahh, you mean for basic web design stuff, not creating php frameworks for actual productivity :P
[07:51] <flaccid> i can do php/mysql etc. no problem. but why would you get a client-side developer to do the backend and why would you get a php person to do the html/css when they have no idea..
[07:51] <dein> does anyone here feel like its christmas when the little update icon appears in their taskbar?
[07:51] <flaccid> dein: yes lol
[07:53] <Xanith> anyone know how to open a kmdr file?
[07:54] <Jucato> dein: no... cause there's always a chance that something might break :P
[07:59] <flaccid> one day the web client-side will get respect. its the most complained about thing for websites, but also has the least respect and priority in the IT world...
[07:59] <unix_infidel> Jucato: you get that scp working b/w vms?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> flaccid: if you can design well i doubt that's a bad field.
[08:00] <flaccid> it is in australia
[08:00] <unix_infidel> being able to implement the backend tools that's not badly regarded.
[08:00] <flaccid> being able to do the frontend.. thats lowly regarded...
[08:00] <dein> jucato: just some of the fun that comes with your new present :)
[08:00] <unix_infidel> well, depends on how good it is :p
[08:01] <flaccid> yes but IT managers don't care if its valid or not..
[08:01] <flaccid> universities are still playing catch-up
[08:02] <flaccid> i'm doing an assignment atm which asks you to do a non-standard JS dynamic menu which is inaccesible...
[08:04] <jmichaelx> well, i tried to test out edgy knot 3..... could not get X to start
[08:04] <unix_infidel> i'm guessing its wise to remove archive from the sources.list lines?
[08:04] <unix_infidel> its been a while since i did a reinstall.
[08:09] <unix_infidel> !cipherfunk
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cipherfunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <unix_infidel> hmm, cipherfunk is down?
[08:10] <unix_infidel> !sources
[08:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:11] <Jucato> hmm...
[08:11] <Jucato> !easysource
[08:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:12] <unix_infidel> i'm assuming i'm not supposed to remove archive from archive.ubuntu.com
[08:12] <Jucato> yep, you assumed right :)
[08:18] <unix_infidel> anyone know if cipherfunk is down?
[08:22] <Homer> I am having problems compiling things
[08:22] <Homer> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anony
[08:23] <Xanith> anyone have any clue why firefox is kinda skippy on scrolling on my myspace?
[08:23] <Xanith> it wasn't that way in windows...
[08:23] <Homer> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[08:23] <unix_infidel> is it possible to generate a list of all installed files that i can backup for future installs?
[08:23] <unix_infidel> erm installed packages?
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Xanith, because myspace sucks
[08:24] <Jucato> unix_infidel: dpkg --get-selections MIGHT work, if the exact same packages (with the exact same versions/names) are in the repositories. It might not work across Dapper and Edgy
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> the code is so bad
[08:24] <unix_infidel> Jucato: ahh.
[08:25] <Xanith> haha... well it had no problems with firefox in windows
[08:25] <Xanith> but like when im scrolling it's almost like i'm scrolling at 1 fps
[08:25] <Xanith> it's really skippy
[08:25] <unix_infidel> Xanith: b/c the plugins required for myspace isnt open.
[08:25] <unix_infidel> aren't*
[08:26] <unix_infidel> as the formats aren't open.
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Xanith, the webpage is set up so badly. its got horrible servers and HTML
[08:27] <unix_infidel> Xanith: it works REALLY well if you've got the no script plugin installed :)
[08:27] <unix_infidel> better than windows i'd say :)
[08:28] <Xanith> it wouldn't be because i have PNG24 images on there with transparency would it?
[08:29] <louise> what do i need so i can watch movies from the dvd
[08:30] <flaccid> !dvdplayer
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <flaccid> !dve
[08:30] <flaccid> !dvd
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:30] <flaccid> hmm
[08:30] <louise> k
[08:30] <flaccid> i wanna know that too louise
[08:31] <louise> will vlc media player play one?
[08:31] <flaccid> not sure, totem does as per the desktop guide above
[08:31] <unix_infidel> vlc will as long as you have proper libs / codecs
[08:32] <flaccid> unix_infidel: how about xine-ui ?
[08:32] <unix_infidel> not sure.
[08:32] <unix_infidel> i usually have libdvdcss installed and use mplayer.
[08:33] <flaccid> interesting
[08:33] <flaccid> i wish my optical drive worked...
[08:34] <flaccid> love my notebook, just have a few issues
[08:38] <dek> I have upgraded to Edgy to test, but the boot screen is wayyy to strange. Is this the way it's supposed to be for now?
[08:39] <Jucato> dek: define "strange"?
[08:39] <dek> lol it's difficult xD
[08:39] <dek> its like a square
[08:39] <dek> like "cirquit" shape
[08:39] <Jucato> with colors, circles, and squares?
[08:39] <dek> nothing eye candy
[08:39] <Jucato> hm..
[08:40] <dek> spanish?
[08:40] <dek> :P
[08:40] <dek> Juan Carlos
[08:40] <dek> con ese nombre
[08:40] <dek> :P
[08:40] <Jucato> nope not Spanish
[08:40] <Jucato> sorry
[08:40] <dek> :O
[08:40] <Jucato> did you upgrade from Dapper and made a fresh installation of Edgy
[08:40] <Jucato> ?
[08:40] <dek> I upgraded from Dapper
[08:41] <dek> didn't have a nice time upgrading, had to try several times
[08:41] <dek> to get it to work
[08:41] <Jucato> dist-upgrade?
[08:41] <dek> yes
[08:41] <Xanith> Hey i went to the WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 thing, and it says to add that line to the bad_list file... but that file doesn't exist?
[08:41] <Jucato> strange, you should have the new usplash/boot splash...
[08:41] <Jucato> try checking for updates (again)
[08:41] <michael__> #neu.de
[08:41] <dek> yes i tried several times too
[08:41] <dek> how can I update that part only?
[08:42] <Jucato> dek: try to run 'adept_updater'
[08:43] <unix_infidel> bah, i dread apt-get upgrades :(
[08:44] <unix_infidel> especially on a 150K connection :(
[08:44] <Jucato> :)
[08:44] <dek> i updated several times
[08:44] <dek> but boot screen doesnt get updated
[08:44] <dek> i still get the square and ugly one :P
[08:44] <Jucato> hmm.. really strange
[08:45] <Xanith> umm i guess no one knows anything?
[08:45] <Jucato> Xanith: maybe if you posted the link to that "WebBrowsingSlowIP..." thing?
[08:46] <Xanith> it's from the bot in this channel
[08:46] <Xanith> !WebBrowsingSlow
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WebBrowsingSlow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> dek, thats a bug thats been reported
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i did it today
[08:46] <Xanith> !IPv6
[08:46] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:46] <Xanith> that one
[08:46] <Jucato> ok hold on
[08:46] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: only happens if you dist-upgrade from Dapper?
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i dist-upgrated
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i can edit it
[08:47] <dhq> how do i enable apci for my lappy
[08:47] <Jucato> ok. coz I just installed Knot 3 on VMWare, no problem there
[08:48] <dek> oh ok
[08:48] <dek> i am glad then it is a bug and not my noobyness
[08:48] <dek> :P
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, well i'll do the edit and i'll ask around on #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <Jucato> ok
[08:48] <Jucato> Xanith: have you tried the intructions on disabling IPv6 on Dapper?
[08:49] <Xanith> heh just noticed that
[08:49] <Xanith> that's what im doing now
[08:49] <Xanith> k rebooting...
[08:51] <unix_infidel> Jucato: you get that scp setup b/w Virtual machines in vmware?
[08:51] <Jucato> unix_infidel: nope. I gave up :P
[08:51] <Jucato> maybe some other time when I'm not in a hurry
[08:53] <flaccid> who wants to come around my place and cook me something
[08:54] <Jucato> hm... if I were near your place, I'd drop by and cook you :P
[08:54] <dhq> how do i configure acpi
[08:54] <Xanith> !flash
[08:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <flaccid> asl, Jucato lol
[08:55] <dhq> !acpi
[08:55] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[08:55] <Jucato> flaccid: have I suddenly wandered of to DALnet? you're asking for my asl? lol
[08:55] <flaccid> yeah it was kinda a joke
[08:55] <flaccid> reply is optional
[08:56] <Jucato> my optional answer to your optional question is ___/m/Philippines :P
[08:57] <flaccid> lol
[08:57] <flaccid> i'm 24/m/australia
[08:57] <Jucato> ah 23/m/Philippines (to be fair :P)
[08:58] <flaccid> hehe sure
[08:58] <flaccid> this issue sux: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/38280
[09:00] <Xanith> now im trying to figure out why flash is installed and firefox still doesn't use it... lol
[09:02] <dhq> what is cpu throttle
[09:03] <Jucato> Xanith: how did you install flash?
[09:03] <Xanith> through adept
[09:03] <dhq> !throttle
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about throttle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Jucato> Xanith: flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:04] <Xanith> yea
[09:04] <Jucato> hm...
[09:04] <Jucato> did you try restarting Firefox?
[09:04] <Jucato> oh, btw, the flash plugin can only handle Flash 7, iirc. if the site uses something higher, no luck
[09:05] <Xanith> oh that might be it then, cause i think the site uses Flash 9
[09:05] <Jucato> :(
[09:07] <Xanith> so they don't even make a Flash 9 for linux?
[09:07] <Jucato> ask Adobe.
[09:07] <Jucato> it's in the works (so they say...)
[09:07] <Xanith> lol well i guess thats a start
[09:07] <Xanith> but they dont make anything else for linux do they?
[09:08] <Jucato> hm... not that I know of
[09:08] <Xanith> so they hired linux programmers just to code a free plugin for linux?
[09:08] <Xanith> sounds believeable
[09:08] <Jucato> I don't know the details...
[09:09] <flaccid> how do they expect flash to be respected as a standard of any sort if they do not provide the latest version to all platforms, particularly gnu/linux??
[09:09] <flaccid> thats what i hate..
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> flaccid, thats why we support Open Formats
[09:10] <flaccid> ah yeah
[09:10] <flaccid> but thats nothing to do with my point
[09:10] <Jucato> flaccid: well, there's Flash for Windows and Macs, so in a way... money speaks
[09:10] <flaccid> yeah i know how it goes
[09:10] <unix_infidel> ok, i think removing archive from archive.ubuntu.com might actually increase my speeds.
[09:11] <Jucato> unix_infidel: it's like trying to remove a part of your address :)
[09:11] <unix_infidel> yes?
[09:11] <ep> ah got here late on the discussion... i installed flashplugin-nonfree on dapper/kubuntu.  Is it not working  because macromedia is sending version 9?
[09:11] <Jucato> are you removing the word "archive" or just the "xx" part before it?
[09:12] <unix_infidel> ahh i think i just need to remove us from the line.
[09:12] <ccherrett> what is the tool to configure your display?
[09:12] <Jucato> unix_infidel: ok that's different :)
[09:12] <unix_infidel> security.ubuntu.com is being SUPER slow.
[09:12] <Jucato> unix_infidel: you're just using a different mirror/server, which may or may not be faster
[09:13] <Jucato> security.ubuntu.com is the only server available, no mirrors, which might explain the slowness
[09:13] <dhq> !acpi
[09:14] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[09:18] <flaccid> Admiral_Chicago: open formats for web are all good if MSIE supports them..
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> flaccid, i gave up on IE
[09:19] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: but the majority of the internet browsing population hasn't yet... :(
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, yea well i'm one less
[09:22] <Jucato> heh, two less, if you count me :)
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> plus i'm a Firefox zealot, i have a teeshirt. i tell everyone about it
[09:22] <CroX> Mornin' ppl
[09:22] <flaccid> 3 if you count me too
[09:22] <flaccid> i'm an opera junky..
[09:22] <flaccid> svg aint going on IE anytime soon if at all
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm a moderator in the Firefox users community on LiveJournal
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !svg
[09:23] <ubotu> svg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon14
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> ah, well good i had no idea what an svg was before this
[09:23] <Jucato> :)
[09:23] <flaccid> would take over flash for vector
[09:23] <flaccid> but sif thats going to happen coz of IE
[09:23] <CroX> Speaking of flash..
[09:24] <SpAwN> hello all anyone know a good tv tuner card that will work good in linux?
[09:24] <flaccid> opera and firefox have svg support already
[09:24] <CroX> I just installed a mozilla flash package from the universe repository and now firefox freezes whenever I visit some site with flash
[09:25] <Jucato> (konqueror supports it too...)
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> CroX, what plugin and what release are you on? dapper?
[09:26] <flaccid> Jucato: is that native support?
[09:26] <Jucato> flaccid: yeah I think so
[09:26] <CroX> Admiral_Chicago: Lemme check
[09:27] <CroX> 6.06
[09:27] <flaccid> coolio
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i think the plugin you are supposed to use is flashplugin-nonfree
[09:27] <flaccid> seee someone needs to get it on to IE somehow
[09:27] <flaccid> native that is
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> on something to that effect
[09:27] <CroX> Admiral_Chicago: Ahh, I tried with libflash-mozplugin
[09:27] <Jucato> !flashplugin-nonfree
[09:27] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> problem is it is only for x86 systems, not like PPC or 64bit
[09:28] <CroX> Component multiverse, hrm.. I'll poke around for it. Thanks.
[09:28] <CroX> Err
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> CroX, you run 64 bit or a mac?
[09:28] <CroX> I'm on amd64
[09:28] <Jucato> !repos > CroX
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a complicated way to get it work
[09:28] <flaccid> Admiral_Chicago: the wiki i think says you have to do manual stuff for install on those archs
[09:28] <flaccid> yep admiral
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !flash
[09:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> CroX, first link
[09:29] <CroX> Alright
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> follow that to flash, you can make it work on AMD64 though
[09:29] <CroX> Sweet, I'll check it out
[09:42] <ubuntu_> slm
[09:42] <ubuntu_> slm
[09:42] <ubuntu_> m'llet
[09:42] <ubuntu_> olooooooooooooooooooo
[09:43] <ubuntu_> slm
[09:44] <visik7> I wonder why kubuntu-desktop depends on irssi
[09:44] <Jucato> visik7: they made it a common app that's available on all installations (ubuntu and xubuntu too)
[09:45] <visik7> it's useless there is already kopete and konversation
[09:45] <visik7> and is text mode
[09:45] <Jucato> well, that depends. it's very useful if you need an IRC client while X is down
[09:45] <visik7> mmm
[09:45] <visik7> maybe
[09:46] <Jucato> nano and vim are also installed, even if kate/gedit/mousepad are already there. Some people actually do prefer to use irssi...
[09:47] <visik7> vim is another thing
[09:47] <visik7> vim is essential to develop
[09:47] <visik7> :)
[09:47] <Jucato> debatable :P
[09:47] <Jucato> but we're not here to debate on that :P
[09:47] <visik7> just joking :)
[09:48] <Jucato> :)
[09:48] <visik7> back to study
[09:49] <CroX> Anyone here know of EditPlus2 from win? I'm looking for a similar editor. Kate doesn't quite cut it.
[09:51] <Jucato> CroX: for HTML/Web page development?
[09:52] <CroX> Jucato: PHP, HTML, LUA, CSS
[09:52] <visik7> quanta?
[09:52] <Jucato> CroX: you might want to try out Quanta Plus or Nvu
[09:52] <CroX> Jucato: I'd love color markup, auto intendent, ftp support, and extra all ;)
[09:52] <CroX> Alright, I'll check that out. Thanks.
[09:52] <Jucato> Quanta has those, afaik
[09:53] <CroX> !quanta
[09:53] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB
[09:53] <Jucato> Kate is just a text editor that has some coding features. but it's still just  a text editor :)
[09:53] <flaccid> CroX: kate or kdevelop i find is just as good as EditPlus2, why you think its not?
[09:54] <Jucato> KDevelop is more oriented towards programming, though
[09:54] <CroX> flaccid: Because kate doesn't get the syntaxes right with LUA, I couldn't find FTP support and it lacks auto-intendend.
[09:54] <CroX> flaccid: Minor annoyances for sure, but still.
[09:54] <flaccid> hmm
[09:54] <flaccid> what is LUA anyway?
[09:55] <flaccid> kate does support ftp btw
[09:55] <CroX> !lua
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lua - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <Jucato> isn't there some setting in Kate for indenting?
[09:55] <flaccid> yeah i thought so too
[09:55] <CroX> flaccid: http://www.lua.org
[09:55] <CroX> Hrm
[09:56] <Jucato> probably LUA is too new to have built-in support in Kate? even Ruby isn't supported yet
[09:56] <Jucato> at least for syntaxes, afaik
[09:56] <CroX> Jucato: LUA's older than ruby though. But kate does have LUA support
[09:56] <Jucato> ah
[09:57] <CroX> Jucato: Only not very good ones
[09:57] <CroX> But perhaps you could change some syntax file for kate? You could do that in EditPlus2
[09:57] <Jucato> heh maybe the guy who's supposed to be maintaing LUA support hasn't updated yet
[09:57] <flaccid> CroX: ask these questions in #kate
[09:58] <CroX> flaccid: Will do, thanks
[09:58] <flaccid> and indentation is in the configure
[09:58] <Jucato> kate might not support everything, because it's not a dedicated programming IDE, imho
[09:58] <Jucato> it may have advanced features, but they're more of addons rather than main features
[09:59] <flaccid> well it does everything CroX has cited, except the poor LUA support
[09:59] <CroX> Jucato: Suits me better then. I prefer multiple lightweight applications rather than one bulky have-it-all
[09:59] <Jucato> :)
[09:59] <flaccid> i'd use kdevelop, but it doesn't support same instance for opening files externally
[10:05] <CroX> That's the second time this has happened.. I'm using checkinstall and end up with a x86_64 package even though I'd need a amd64 one.
[10:06] <CroX> Something I haven't configured correctly perhaps?
[10:06] <CroX> Well, I'd think so too. But the error messages keep telling me it isn't.
[11:11] <hltai> what do i need to do to mount a windows shared folder?
[11:13] <roconnor> The man page for kate seems out of date.
[11:14] <roconnor> the -n option has been removed
[11:14] <roconnor> (repalced by -u)
[11:14] <Jucato> roconnor: I have no -n in my man kate page
[11:14] <kulbir> mount /dev/DRIVE name
[11:15] <roconnor> August, 25 2003 is the date I have at the bottom of my man page
[11:15] <zorglu_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 <- about kate, each time i launch it i got those. any idea how i can remove it ?
[11:15] <flaccid> i have never heard of -n
[11:15] <Jucato> roconnor: I have May 2006
[11:16] <zorglu_> i got 2003 too, and this is 6.06.1 install
[11:16] <flaccid> zorglu_: wacom devices need to be removed from xorg.conf
[11:16] <roconnor> wow, why is my man page out of date...
[11:16] <zorglu_> !wacom
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <zorglu_> flaccid: any url about this ? if not i can google :)
[11:16] <flaccid> my kate man page is may 2006
[11:16] <roconnor> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1151 2006-06-14 02:26 /usr/share/man/man1/kate.1.gz
[11:16] <flaccid> i'm looking zorglu
[11:17] <Jucato> try this
[11:17] <Jucato> !baddevice
[11:17] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[11:17] <flaccid> bingo
[11:17] <zorglu_> i dont get how some people got different man page...
[11:17] <zorglu_> ok thanks :)
[11:17] <flaccid> how they fixing that bug?
[11:18] <Jucato> flaccid: I don't think it's a bug really
[11:18] <flaccid> how= are they
[11:18] <flaccid> i deem it as a bug
[11:18] <Jucato> well. :)
[11:18] <flaccid> or at least bad logic
[11:19] <Jucato> or poor hardware detection?
[11:19] <flaccid> i just didn't expect developers to make this kind of mistake
[11:19] <zorglu_> lets say it is an 'improper behavior' to display scary error message to so many people :)
[11:19] <CroX> Question. I have just installed kmysqladmin but how do I find it and start it?
[11:19] <flaccid> Jucato: i believe its not as a result of hardware detection its added after the hardware detect
[11:19] <Jucato> zorglu_: those error messages only appear when you try to launch apps from the command line, afaik
[11:20] <Jucato> flaccid: probably. I'm not really familiar with X. the problem is that xorg.conf is not dynamic, in that it doesn't adjust automatically with a change in the hardware, afaik
[11:20] <zorglu_> Jucato: and they are scary and appears on many (most?) box ?
[11:20] <Jucato> zorglu_: on all boxes :)
[11:20] <zorglu_> ok :)
[11:20] <flaccid> its like how i wouldn't mind this one to be rid of as well: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::SpacerItem', <> line 24 during global destruction.
[11:21] <flaccid> Jucato: wacom is being installed by default
[11:21] <Jucato> flaccid: just the xorg reference to wacom. we'll have more than wacoms in xorg.conf when Edgy comes :)
[11:22] <Jucato> AIGLX will be enabled by default in X
[11:22] <flaccid> yes, you cant tell me that everyone should have these wacom entries when xorg.conf is an optimised file
[11:23] <flaccid> and whats this about more than wacoms when edgy comes?
[11:24] <Jucato> I think there will be AIGLX entries i xorg.conf by default because AIGLX is enabled by default in X 7.1? not really 100% sure
[11:24] <flaccid> right
[11:24] <osoh> hi
[11:24] <flaccid> why discriminate? how about we put every device that exists in ..
[11:24] <Jucato> lol
[11:25] <flaccid> looks like they consider it a bug here.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/46700
[11:25] <Jucato> flaccid: but don't take my word for it. I'm not sure about the intricacies of that aspect of the system
[11:26] <zorglu_> me again, the 'bad device' worked :)
[11:26] <zorglu_> ScimInputContextPlugin() <- can i remove those ?
[11:26] <flaccid> but you get my point .. they are extra entries that didn't come from the hardware scan..
[11:26] <Jucato> flaccid: I'll ask about it
[11:26] <flaccid> zorglu_: whats giving you that?
[11:26] <zorglu_> this smell like a coder put some log and forgot to remove it :)
[11:26] <zorglu_> flaccid: just launching 'kate' as plain user
[11:27] <flaccid> zorglu_: thats normal output if you are running it from command line
[11:27] <zorglu_> ok so it is my turn to deem it as a bug :)
[11:27] <flaccid> no, it is stdout from the program
[11:27] <zorglu_> due to the rule 'coder must not leave debug trace when releasing program' :)
[11:27] <flaccid> lol
[11:28] <zorglu_> sure but it is useless and scary
[11:28] <flaccid> i've nerver heard of that rule
[11:28] <zorglu_> imagine you getting all the printk of the kernel when you run it :)
[11:28] <zorglu_> you wont be pleased :)
[11:28] <flaccid> we are yet to see a standard adopted with GUI programs for its stdout and what should be outputted if any...
[11:28] <llxcamxll> whats an easy to get dvd player
[11:28] <llxcamxll> download then go
[11:28] <cpk1> mplayer
[11:28] <sYnie> hello
[11:29] <llxcamxll> no luck with it
[11:29] <llxcamxll> dun work
[11:29] <cpk1> well actually nothing is download and go because you need the proper codecs
[11:29] <zorglu_> flaccid: well im sure such standard wont say 'keep your debug output when releasing' :)
[11:29] <zorglu_> and by default :)
[11:29] <flaccid> zorglu_: yes but in this case its probably the developers intention. with the xorg case i'm sure that 'detecting hardware not on the system and placing in xorg.conf' wasn't part of their pseudocode
[11:30] <flaccid> ah there is no standard practice, thats the point...
[11:30] <sYnie> i got a notebook and tried to use a external TFT as Dual Head. So i set up the xorg.conf, but when i restart X, the screen from the notebook is black and the external is on. but when i start X without the external plugged in, the internal TFT works fine. by what could this be caused ?
[11:30] <roconnor> what version of kate do you guys have?
[11:30] <zorglu_> ii  kate                  3.5.2-0ubuntu27       advanced text editor for KDE
[11:30] <flaccid> kate 2.5.4
[11:31] <zorglu_> the one from the 6.06.1 cd
[11:31] <roconnor> I have 2.5.2
[11:31] <flaccid> zorglu_: kate -v
[11:31] <flaccid> sYnie: could be anything
[11:31] <flaccid> !dualhead
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <zorglu_> the package version is not the internal version ?
[11:31] <flaccid> zorglu_: nope
[11:31] <flaccid> !dualmonitors
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualmonitors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <ubuntu> Hello,
[11:31] <zorglu_> ah ok the package version is the kde version
[11:31] <flaccid> Jucato: is there a dual head bot thing
[11:32] <ubuntu> can anyone help me with partitions?
[11:32] <zorglu_> !xinerama
[11:32] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:32] <Jucato> there?
[11:33] <flaccid> what about mergedFB
[11:33] <flaccid> ?
[11:33] <flaccid> this is always a good one http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[11:34] <zorglu_> kate textfile.txt > /dev/null 2>&1
[11:35] <zorglu_> the only workaround i found on the web :)
[11:35] <zorglu_> and apparently 3.5.4 is even worse as for outputing debug
[11:35] <flaccid> whats that for?
[11:35] <zorglu_> to workaround the bug/'normal behaviour' :)
[11:35] <zorglu_> aka dont dump your coder debug when i run kate
[11:36] <flaccid> oh why does it concern you, and why you running it from cli?
[11:36] <zorglu_> because i need to edit file ? :)
[11:37] <zorglu_> and because i dont like to get my tty messy
[11:37] <zorglu_> and google for it if you believe i am the only one in this situation :)
[11:37] <roconnor> Okay, I do apt-get source kate, and this downloads the kdebase-3.5.2 package
[11:37] <flaccid> if you don't want your tty messy, run it from kmenu | start or the run command panel in kicker
[11:37] <roconnor> inside this package is debian/man/kate.1, dated august 2003
[11:37] <cpk1> are you talking about when you open something with kate it spits all that nonsense out at you?
[11:37] <roconnor> What do I have that is different from others?
[11:38] <flaccid> i believe you, i just don't understand why you would run kate from cli etc.
[11:38] <Jucato> roconnor: um.. KDE 3.5.4?
[11:38] <zorglu_> flaccid: because im a coder and use the keyboard to type :)
[11:38] <roconnor> ah
[11:38] <cpk1> flaccid: kate /dir/dir/conf you never do that?
[11:38] <flaccid> err so am i
[11:38] <roconnor> are people here running edgy?
[11:38] <zorglu_> flaccid: but even out of this, imagine all the window user seeing this on their screen ... how do they like it ?  how confident they are after that :)
[11:39] <Jucato> roconnor: no, but some have upgraded to KDE 3.5.4 in Dapper
[11:39] <roconnor> ok
[11:39] <roconnor> well, sounds like it is fixed then. :)
[11:39] <flaccid> i guess i understand a bit better
[11:39] <flaccid> i'd rather but the kate developers than output to /dev/null
[11:40] <flaccid> but=bug
[11:40] <cpk1> zorglu_: are you talking about when X gives a bad device error when you open up kate?
[11:40] <sancho21> kopete is worse than gaim right?
[11:40] <flaccid> kopete is better than gaim
[11:40] <flaccid> imo
[11:40] <Jucato> sancho21: says who? :)
[11:40] <sancho21> kopete can't autoconnect
[11:40] <Jucato> sancho21: really?
[11:40] <cpk1> sancho21: if you like it use it ;)
[11:40] <flaccid> sancho21: it does for me
[11:41] <sancho21> any additional plugin to enable it?
[11:41] <flaccid> dunno, don't think so
[11:41] <Jucato> Settings > Configure > Behavior options > connect automatically at startup?
[11:41] <sancho21> Oh.. let me c
[11:41] <ubuntu> anyone can help me with kubuntu? please priv me
[11:41] <zorglu_> cpk1: not anymore, i did i first, and then tried to remove all the debug trace dumped by kate. with the ScimInputContextPlugin() stuff
[11:42] <flaccid> ubuntu: wtf?
[11:42] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[11:42] <zorglu_> !ask
[11:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:42] <flaccid> arent you in #kubuntu
[11:42] <Fille-laptop> 0_o
[11:42] <sancho21> no, what I mean is, when the internet restart up again, kopete won't autoconnect (try to connect again)
[11:43] <Jucato> ah. hm...
[11:43] <Fille-laptop> I just got my spellchecker corrected in OpenOffice *happy happy* :D
[11:43] <Fille-laptop> Swedish language and all ;)
[11:43] <zorglu_> cpk1: oh i see to which of my sentence you are refering too, yes the 'bad device' stuff would have the same effect that the debug trace
[11:43] <flaccid> auto-reconnect
[11:44] <ubuntu> flaccid: well, I wanted to install it, I used manual partitioning, my default partitions are sda1 - primary winxp, sda2 extended ntfs, sda5 - logic ntfs, sda6 - swap, sda7 - / on ext3. but when i go to next step - mounting points for ubuntu, there are no sda6 or 7..only sda1,sda2,sda5 :////
[11:44] <Jucato> hm.. I don't know, but I seem to reconnect...
[11:44] <flaccid> ask about that in #kopete, sancho21
[11:44] <cpk1> zorglu_: so is there any reason in particular it does that besides trying to annoy us? =P
[11:44] <sancho21> oh thanks
[11:44] <flaccid> actually, yeah mine auto reconnects i believe
[11:45] <flaccid> ubuntu: maybe thats because of the LVM?
[11:45] <zorglu_> cpk1: no it is not evil :) most likely he just forgot to remove the trace debug before releasing. or some misconfiguration make those trace level appears when they should not
[11:45] <flaccid> ubuntu: don't know if i can help further
[11:45] <ubuntu> :(
[11:46] <flaccid> maybe you do have an issue there, ubuntu
[11:47] <ubuntu> :/
[11:47] <ubuntu> 6.06 dapper
[11:47] <flaccid> i wouldn't know where to start
[11:47] <flaccid> besides google
[11:47] <ubuntu> on my friends pc it works
[11:47] <ubuntu> uncle google is very helpfull, if You know how to ask him ;p
[11:47] <flaccid> try not to manual partition, let it partition the free space?
[11:48] <cpk1> zorglu_: the kate spam has made me pretty much just use vi now
[11:48] <cpk1> which i suppose isnt a bad thing
[11:48] <flaccid> lol
[11:48] <flaccid> most GUI apps output .........
[11:49] <sancho21> cpk1: kate has spam?
[11:49] <cpk1> if you open kate from command line it spams a nonsensical error message
[11:49] <flaccid> cpk1: so do most gui apps
[11:49] <cpk1> i guess not everyone has it
[11:50] <Jucato> cpk1: recently (X.org 7.0 I believe) all GUI apps launched from the CLI have those errors
[11:50] <flaccid> for eg. run kdevelop from command line and see how much output you get
[11:50] <zorglu_> cpk1: flaccid: just talked to riddel about it, he think those display are undesirable too, the ScimInputContextPlugin is from qt's scim patch. anybody to track it down ? :)
[11:51] <flaccid> yeah they are undesirable, but most qt/gtk apps will output crap..
[11:51] <flaccid> some developers care, most don't
[11:51] <cpk1> flaccid: i know most apps have the normal output but what i am talking about with kate is an error message for no reason
[11:51] <Jucato> btw, flaccid, about the wacom entries in xorg.conf "yea the default config includes them so laptops with wacom pointers work ootb"
[11:52] <Jucato> cpk1: what error message? Bad Device error message?
[11:52] <flaccid> cpk1: i don't see an error . ScimInputContextPlugin() is not an error
[11:52] <cpk1> Jucato: yes
[11:52] <Jucato> cpk1: nothing to do with Kate
[11:52] <fildo> flaccid: try again
[11:52] <flaccid> Jucato: why is that?
[11:52] <flaccid> Jucato: and the reason i'll accept is if wacom cannot be auto-detected...
[11:52] <CroX> Anyone have experience with kmysqladmin? It keeps getting disconnected as soon as I try to do anything..
[11:52] <cpk1> Jucato: yeah i commented out the wacom pointer entries once and that stopped it but then when i opened firefox it killed my mouse
[11:53] <flaccid> fildo: blow me :)
[11:53] <Jucato> cpk1: you double checked what you edited?
[11:54] <cpk1> this was about 2 months ago, so... I hope i double checked it? I just restored the backup
[11:54] <Jucato> flaccid: there are a lot of stuff in Kubuntu/Ubuntu that are installed by default just to make stuff work ootb, no matter what system. just take a look at the number of modules and installed stuff.
[11:54] <flaccid> Jucato: my point is that it defeats auto detect. lets just include every known device then so everything works out of the box...
[11:54] <cpk1> also i have a laptop
[11:54] <flaccid> Jucato: yes but we are talking about xorg.conf here... not a module, not a package!
[11:54] <Jucato> flaccid: I might have been wrong. it's not part of autodetect
[11:54] <cpk1> flaccid: isnt one of the biggest points about ubuntu that it "just works"
[11:54] <Jucato> and we know how xorg.conf doesnt autodetect, right
[11:55] <flaccid> a lot of linux distros, just work
[11:55] <cpk1> but ubuntu is for human beings!
[11:55] <cpk1> and servers too
[11:55] <flaccid> xorg.conf doesn't do the auto detect, something else does and puts in the xorg.conf
[11:55] <cpk1> according to their billboard
[11:55] <Jucato> flaccid: I also think that this is a feature of X.org, not something they added. not really sure
[11:55] <flaccid> so fedora, suse etc.
[11:55] <benji_> anyone have time to answer a question about add/remove programs not working?
[11:56] <Jucato> benji_: just ask away :)
[11:56] <cpk1> Jucato: do you remember what the fix was with the editing out the wacom entries? to stop the bad device errors
[11:56] <Jucato> !baddevice
[11:56] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[11:56] <cpk1> or if there is a wiki entry
[11:57] <flaccid> i'm sure that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is not putting it in there or any other x configuration tool. they are default entries which need to be ridden of
[11:57] <benji_> well, I just did an install...and add/remove programs won't let me install anything new.  I opened adept and all the sites were commented out in the repository list...so I uncommented them...but still nothing...
[11:57] <benji_> I hit fetch updates but it just gets stuck on downloading headers
[11:57] <benji_> at 0% and never downloads
[11:58] <flaccid> so is it xorg or ubuntu that is putting in the wacom entries. either way get rid of them!
[11:58] <Jucato> flaccid: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does put it there, last time I checked
[11:58] <Jucato> I remember deleting those lines, then they returned after a reconfigure
[11:58] <flaccid> Jucato: if thats the case, then ubuntu devs need to remove it
[11:59] <cpk1> benji_: have you tried doing "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install programiwant"
[11:59] <Jucato> flaccid: er.. isn't it that if it's the case, it's not something the Ubuntu devs have put there?
[11:59] <benji_> i'll try that and see what happens
[11:59] <Jucato> anyway, time for me to go for a while...
[11:59] <flaccid> Jucato: i don't know what developers put it there, they just need to be removed
[11:59] <Jucato> bye
[12:00] <flaccid> heh
[12:00] <flaccid> i have no idea why he is defending the entries
[12:01] <benji_> it says 0% [connecting to nz.archive.ubuntu.com....etc...    and never does anything
[12:01] <benji_> when I do apt-get update
[12:02] <benji_> okay now it says Could not connect to nz.archive.ubuntu.com....etc....
[12:02] <benji_> connection timed out
[12:02] <cpk1> benji_: try somewhere besides nz
[12:03] <benji_> I'll try to replace the repository
[12:03] <octan> !paste
[12:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:04] <cpk1> =( invoke-rc kdm stopped killed my display
[12:05] <zorglu_> cpk1: you put >alias kate='kate &>/dev/null'< in your bashrc and you get rid of the bothering debug :)
[12:06] <cpk1> zorglu_: i just commented out the wacom entries, starting x back up to see if that did it
[12:06] <benji_> this is quite wierd now: when i enter http://ubuntuforums.org/ into Konqueror, it redirects me to google.com
[12:07] <cpk1> well actually i am rebooting, kind of hard to do stuff when the screen loses input...
[12:07] <zorglu_> this will remove the 'bad debug', not the debug output :)
[12:07] <cpk1> zorglu_: your fix just outputs it to nothing right?
[12:08] <zorglu_> yep
[12:08] <zorglu_> it is not really a fix tho, it is a workaround
[12:08] <cpk1> true
[12:08] <cpk1> heh
[12:08] <cpk1> since that would have to be done with every gui you wanted to start up from cli
[12:10] <cpk1> how would i make it so it doesnt tr to bring eth0 up at start u?
[12:10] <cpk1> try*
[12:10] <flaccid> cpk1: i think you can do it in kcontrol
[12:11] <zorglu_> there is a option like 'dont init at startup'
[12:12] <cpk1> ok, because normally i just want wlan0 to come up
[12:13] <cpk1> its hanging on bringing the network interfaces up...
[12:13] <cpk1> cant ctrl c
[12:13] <zorglu_> wait until it timeout ?
[12:14] <cpk1> now i'm going to have to
[12:14] <cpk1> i dont like it when it doesnt do things that it should be able to though
[12:14] <flaccid> wait till you find out the issue
[12:15] <zorglu_> you can check dmesg to see if it doing dhcp
[12:15] <flaccid> and never put dhcp on lo like i did once lol
[12:16] <zorglu_> about network, how can i use zeroconf
[12:16] <cpk1> second time now it left the pretty start up to give me an error which i have no clue what it means
[12:16] <benji_> well, I replaced my sources.list to one with archive.ubuntu.com repositories...and it still times out on a sudo apt-get update
[12:16] <zorglu_> i mean have 2 kubuntu on lan, and i never see anything in zeroconf
[12:16] <zorglu_> benji_: ping  archive.ubuntu.com give what ?
[12:17] <benji_> it's wierd, I just tested out adept from the live cd before I installed kubuntu and it worked fine....
[12:17] <benji_> okay, I'll ping
[12:17] <flaccid> cpk1: do a sudo /etc/init.d/network restart and pastebin the output
[12:17] <cpk1> udevd-event[3654] : run_program: '/lib/udev/iftab_helper' abnormal exit
[12:17] <flaccid> !zeroconf
[12:17] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[12:17] <cpk1> flaccid: if it gets to a terminal i'll let oyu know
[12:17] <cpk1> i'm talking about boot up here
[12:18] <flaccid> cpk1: it would be the same as boot up really
[12:18] <benji_> same with the ping, it looks like I just can't connect...
[12:18] <benji_> but obviously I am online
[12:18] <zorglu_> benji_: hmmm
[12:18] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[12:18] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:18] <flaccid> zorglu_: zeroconf is optional. install it?
[12:19] <zorglu_> benji_: maybe it is an issue with ipv6 try disabeling it
[12:19] <benji_> okay
[12:19] <benji_> I'll give that a go
[12:19] <zorglu_> flaccid: is it ? i mean i got it in my 'system setting'
[12:20] <flaccid> [2006-09-18 20:18]  <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB , and i just installed it myself to confirm..
[12:20] <zorglu_> oh ok :)
[12:22] <flaccid> i then go to turn on zeroconf and this file does not exist /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi
[12:22] <flaccid> looks like kubuntu has some work to do..
[12:22] <zorglu_> flaccid: ah ok the pacakge zeroconf is like a dhcp without server, i was talking about zeroconf as in apple bonjour, freedesktop avahi etc...
[12:23] <flaccid> do you want service discovery or something else?
[12:24] <flaccid> heh ur right
[12:24] <flaccid> looks like we have a naming conflict here
[12:24] <zorglu_> flaccid: yep service discovery is another name :)
[12:24] <cpk1> ok so commenting out the wacom entries in xorg was bad =P
[12:24] <zorglu_> cpk1: you sure you comment it out properly ?
[12:24] <flaccid> cpk1: why, i deleted them
[12:24] <flaccid> zeroconf has two names
[12:24] <zorglu_> works fine for me too
[12:24] <lupine_85> cpk1: did you remove all references to them as well?
[12:25] <zorglu_> yep the 'stylus' things
[12:25] <flaccid> !discovery
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about discovery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <flaccid> !servicediscovery
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about servicediscovery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <flaccid> !upnp
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <cpk1> well i am checking right now
[12:25] <zorglu_> !avahi
[12:25] <lupine_85> Yuo have to comment out the relavent entries in the "ServerLayout" section as well :)
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <flaccid> i have always wanted to get zeroconf to go on linux too, zorglu_
[12:26] <lupine_85> e.g.  "#       InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents""
[12:26] <zorglu_> flaccid: avahi is a common implemenation of it, present in adept
[12:26] <flaccid> what is the package name?
[12:26] <cpk1> dunno if it makes a difference but i am doing this on a laptop with a touchpad thing
[12:27] <zorglu_> flaccid: i installed several of them, i think if you install avahi-utils, the others will follow
[12:28] <zorglu_> cpk1: me too, works ok, did it like 1h ago
[12:28] <flaccid> ok i'm installing too zorglu_
[12:28] <flaccid> can you configure in system settings yet?
[12:29] <cpk1> ahh i think i see what it might have been, i didnt comment out "stylus" "cursor" "eraser" at the VERY bottom of xorg
[12:30] <flaccid> cpk1: yeah i did that 1st time i tried too hehe
[12:30] <sancho21> Btw, anybody has succeed to print to windows network printer?
[12:30] <flaccid> sancho21: yes
[12:30] <zorglu_> flaccid: i dunno how to use it, hence my original question. but system setting got an entry about zeroconf
[12:30] <flaccid> well i think i did
[12:30] <flaccid> zorglu_: yes is stuff coming up in there?
[12:31] <flaccid> after checking enable
[12:31] <zorglu_> flaccid: ok i installed it on my 2 boxes and yes they see each other :)
[12:31] <flaccid> so i guess it works, zorglu_?
[12:31] <cpk1> it worked
[12:31] <cpk1> =D
[12:31] <zorglu_> $ avahi-discover
[12:31] <flaccid> what services it discoverd?
[12:31] <flaccid> cool cpk1
[12:31] <zorglu_> Found service 'jmehost2 [00:c0:9f:b8:3a:23] ' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local' on 2.0.
[12:31] <zorglu_> Found service 'jmehost1 [08:00:46:a8:16:2e] ' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local' on 2.0.
[12:31] <zorglu_> not much :) i guess service need to be published in it
[12:31] <flaccid> yeah
[12:32] <flaccid> the service is responsible for broadcast ?
[12:32] <flaccid> this is a rival to UpnP isnt it
[12:32] <flaccid> i think
[12:32] <flaccid> heh
[12:33] <cpk1> dont want to seem ignorant or anything but any reason why if I sudo a gue it gives me Xlib kdeinit and kded errors?
[12:33] <zorglu_> flaccid: nope upnp as i know it is only to control firewall/nat to open port
[12:33] <sancho21> how, would you give any references? any links
[12:33] <sancho21> because, I failed
[12:33] <zorglu_> flaccid: and this is a crappy protocol :)
[12:33] <benji_> ipv6 was the problem
[12:33] <benji_> thanks guys!
[12:33] <flaccid> cpk1: sounds like you have some issue. try googling the errors
[12:33] <zorglu_> no problem
[12:35] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_discovery
[12:35] <flaccid> SSDP goes with the UPNP
[12:35] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play#Discovery
[12:36] <sancho21> flaccid: Some people say, listing printer with account guest is forbidden. But listing existing computer is forbidden for root user.
[12:37] <zorglu_> flaccid: ah ok i wasnt aware of this part of upnp
[12:37] <flaccid> sancho21: fair enough. all i can say is that with printing linux or unix in a combined *nix/windows environment, windows has always been trouble for me. same with samba. issues never end.
[12:38] <flaccid> sancho21: it helps if the windows print server is even configurable..
[12:38] <cpk1> apparently i get those errors because root doesnt have access to X server...
[12:38] <sancho21> Oh, so it's same problem with me. Thanks anyway
[12:39] <cpk1> I miss having a real root
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: sudo keeps your env variable so you do have access to X when you use sudo.
[12:40] <zorglu_> flaccid: avahi-publish-service "zorglu stuff" _http._tcp 8080 <- to publish a service on a given box, and avahi-browse -a to get it on the other box :)
[12:41] <zorglu_> flaccid: it does work :)
[12:41] <flaccid> zorglu_: not in system settings
[12:41] <zorglu_> yep still not well included in kde conf
[12:41] <flaccid> i'll say
[12:41] <flaccid> that pissed me off lol
[12:42] <cpk1> LeeJunFan: http://forums.hardwareguys.com/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=21&t=4859&st=#entry31813 that post is the error i am describing and the post below is apparently the answer
[12:44] <flaccid> Your search - /usr/share/avahi/avahi_enable - did not match any documents.
[12:44] <flaccid> ^^ not good, zorglu
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: what were you trying to run with sudo?
[12:45] <cpk1> kate
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> !kdesu
[12:45] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:45] <flaccid> oops i got it wrong way around zorglu
[12:46] <cpk1> i know about kdesu but i've trained myself to always sudo everything if i want permissions =\
[12:46] <flaccid> not a good training practice..
[12:46] <flaccid> hmm i guess its effectively what we do
[12:46] <flaccid> so its common practice lol
[12:47] <cpk1> why not? I know i need root to edit such and such file so i sudo it
[12:47] <cpk1> or to do whatever needs root so i sudo it
[12:47] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: read about kate.
[12:47] <LeeJunFan> Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files.
[12:47] <cpk1> wow kate beat kate winslett in google
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: ownership of files in /tmp /var/tmp and your $HOME dir may be messed up now.
[12:49] <cpk1> as in i own things i shouldnt?
[12:49] <lupine_85> more like as in root 0wns j00 ;)
[12:50] <lupine_85> (you owning 'root' files isn't an especially big problem. Root owning yours would be a big inconvenience, however)
[12:50] <cpk1> lupine_85: yeah, i suppose it would be
[12:52] <cpk1> so should i just hope i didnt mess anything up and try to avoid sudo gui now?
[12:52] <flaccid> looks like package avahi doesn't exist anymore in kubuntu and thus the file /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi doesn't exist. i hope they fix this in next versions
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: and that's exactly what happens when you use sudo for kdeapps.
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: you could use chown to take back ownership, it's probably in /var/tmp
[12:53] <flaccid> cpk1: yeah i guess. thats another reason why people before shouldn't launch kate from command line
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: for example sudo chown -R /var/tmp/kdecache-[username] 
[12:53] <flaccid> is that right zorglu_ :p
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: for example sudo chown -R [username]  /var/tmp/kdecache-[username] 
[12:54] <zorglu_> ?
[12:54] <cpk1> so root shouldnt own anything it /var/tmp?
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: you may want to do the same to your home dir to make sure it didn't take over dcop socket or something as well, and also to a couple dirs in /tmp (the ones with your users username in them).
[12:55] <cpk1> i have a kdecache for myself and a kdecache for root
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: yes, and the one for you - root shouldn't own.
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> nor any files in it.
[12:56] <ajmitch> jono! :)
[12:56] <cpk1> well root didnt take over my cache ^^
[12:56] <flaccid> yet
[12:56] <jono> hey
[12:57] <flaccid> it becomes more of an issue when you open files from protocols like ftp and smb
[12:57] <sancho21> anybody know how to play with ejabberd for newbie?
[12:58] <cstoner> Is anyone available to help me with a java related Kubuntu problem?
[12:59] <cpk1> i chowned my home dir just in case
[12:59] <cpk1> never knew that that could be a problem
[12:59] <sancho21> any problem with java?
[12:59] <cstoner> Specifically, getting the GTK bindings working
[12:59] <cstoner> I can't get the sun-java5-bin package, and libgtk-java depends on it
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: nobody does until they do it to themselves :)
[01:00] <cstoner> "Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit" <-- the exact error message from the program
[01:01] <cstoner> "sun-java5-plugin: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not installable" <-- error message when I try to apt-get libgtk-java
[01:01] <cstoner> Any ideas?
[01:01] <cpk1> look at the wiki on how to install sun java?
[01:02] <cpk1> apt-get sun-jave5-bin
[01:02] <sancho21> cstoner: remove gij package
[01:02] <cpk1> with correct spelling and syntax of course
[01:02] <cstoner> what is the wiki link?
[01:03] <Jucato> !java
[01:03] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:03] <cstoner> thanks
[01:05] <flaccid> cstoner: the error you pasted is due to the java program and no the jre
[01:05] <spaci76> hello @ll
[01:06] <flaccid> well the first 1 was
[01:06] <flaccid> see if your installation from the help page fixes your problem
[01:07] <cstoner> flaccid: I know. I didn't have multiverse repos turned on
[01:07] <flaccid> ah ok
[01:07] <flaccid> cool
[01:07] <cstoner> fresh install
[01:07] <user___> hi
[01:14] <Buffy^> afternoon
[01:14] <Papandopulo> Plz Help me
[01:14] <Papandopulo> Plz Help me
[01:14] <flaccid> !ask
[01:14] <Papandopulo> Plz Help me
[01:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <Papandopulo> i want register my chanell
[01:14] <flaccid> do you need an ambulance?
[01:14] <Papandopulo> i want register my chanell?
[01:14] <flaccid> Papandopulo: type /msg chanserv help
[01:14] <Papandopulo> ok
[01:14] <Papandopulo> 10x
[01:14] <flaccid> i like it
[01:19] <cstoner> Any idea what "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166" means?
[01:19] <Jucato> not that again? :)
[01:19] <flaccid> !baddevice > cstoner
[01:19] <flaccid> see how bad it is, Jucato ;p
[01:19] <Jucato> I know
[01:20] <Jucato> I just hoped that the information has been spread already
[01:20] <Jucato> it's been months!
[01:20] <flaccid> new user = new complaint :)
[01:20] <Jucato> actually new DESKTOP user
[01:20] <Jucato> I don't think the laptop users are bothered by this.
[01:20] <flaccid> why
[01:21] <flaccid> i'm on a notebook and i was bothered by it
[01:21] <Jucato> ah maybe laptop users with wacom pointers
[01:21] <flaccid> i think all users get the dud entries
[01:21] <flaccid> i don't have any wacom
[01:21] <Jucato> that's why we get the errors
[01:21] <flaccid> huh
[01:22] <flaccid> yeah
[01:22] <flaccid> they shouldn't be there
[01:22] <Jucato> maybe, maybe not.
[01:22] <flaccid> its a hack
[01:22] <Jucato> I certainly don't know. I don't delve much into X stuff
[01:23] <Jucato> and I certainly have no plans to, yet.
[01:23] <flaccid> but who do we tell to get rid of them?
[01:24] <Jucato> bug reports would be the best way to get heard, at least for now.
[01:24] <flaccid> ok
[01:25] <flaccid> where is that
[01:26] <flaccid> coz if the reconfigure puts them back in, if you change vid card or something, you get it back
[01:26] <Jucato> well that was afaik.
[01:26] <Jucato> I'll try messing around in VMWare :P
[01:26] <flaccid> yeah from what i could make out too
[01:26] <flaccid> k
[01:27] <Jucato> I guess the problem is where do we file the bug...
[01:27] <Jucato> hmm...
[01:28] <flaccid> i found this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/53845
[01:29] <ubuntu> ittt ses ferinnn
[01:29] <Jucato> ok let me see what I can do
[01:29] <flaccid> infact there is quite a few there reporting it. heres another one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdesdk/+bug/60118
[01:29] <eylul> itttt ses ferrrrrrrrrrr
[01:29] <flaccid> cool
[01:29] <Jucato> heh actually he made a wrong example.  (sudo kate)
[01:30] <vlad> hi all ...i have a problem with wine...can anybody help me?
[01:30] <eylul> ney diyorsun anlamyorum
[01:30] <eylul> :)
[01:30] <Papandapulo> zdes est ktonibud iz rasii
[01:30] <flaccid> Jucato: yeah thats coz these people don't know what the problem is. sudo kate will still give it to ya
[01:30] <Papandapulo> ili znaet po ruski
[01:30] <Papandapulo> ?
[01:30] <eylul> turkiyeeeee
[01:30] <Jucato> flaccid: btw, not all BadDevice errors might be due to those wacom entries
[01:30] <flaccid> babooshka das english chanel oonly
[01:31] <flaccid> merhabba comshou :p
[01:31] <Jucato> not totally sure, but I'll see
[01:31] <eylul> flaccidd
[01:31] <eylul> itt
[01:31] <eylul> ben eyll
[01:31] <flaccid> yeah but its likely
[01:31] <eylul> sen kimsin
[01:31] <flaccid> ben flaccid
[01:32] <Papandapulo> speak  Russian anybody?
[01:32] <Papandapulo> speak  Russian anybody?
[01:32] <flaccid> heh i know jack all turkish
[01:32] <eylul> trkce biliyormusunnnnnnnnnnnn
[01:32] <eylul> bende turkish
[01:32] <eylul> sen nerden
[01:32] <flaccid> flaccid likes buke memme
[01:32] <frojnd> why my amorok wouldn't play music
[01:32] <frojnd> :S
[01:33] <flaccid> frojnd: what format?
[01:33] <frojnd> I drag mp3 to the playlist and nothing happens
[01:33] <Jucato> !mp3
[01:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:33] <eylul> :(
[01:33] <eylul> :(
[01:34] <eylul> ayyyy cok skldm ben cktm bune be
[01:34] <eylul> :)
[01:35] <flaccid> eylul: english please
[01:35] <eylul> yokkk inglish nooo
[01:35] <eylul> bilmiyorum
[01:35] <eylul> yok
[01:36] <flaccid> stop
[01:36] <flaccid> please
[01:37] <eylul> dur ben bi eng szlg alaym ona bakarak yazarm
[01:37] <eylul> hahahahha
[01:37] <flaccid> can somebody kick eylul?
[01:37] <Jucato> hm.. if he doesn't stop...
[01:37] <eylul> flaccid anlamyorum ne yazyorsan ok ingg no bilmiyorum
[01:38] <flaccid> are you offering me an iskender kebab, eylul?
[01:38] <Jucato> flaccid: you know what language that is?
[01:38] <eylul> flaccid yesssss
[01:38] <flaccid> its turkish
[01:39] <eylul> yes
[01:39] <flaccid> and my turkish is zilch
[01:39] <eylul> neyyy
[01:39] <eylul> anlamadm
[01:39] <flaccid> lol
[01:39] <mike_> what is an "iskender kebab"
[01:39] <flaccid> can you talk english, eylul?
[01:39] <Tm_T> use english please
[01:39] <flaccid> mike_: turkish pide and/or kebab
[01:39] <eylul> efet turkiyeee
[01:40] <eylul> engg know no
[01:40] <flaccid> i think he said only turkish
[01:40] <Tm_T> I see
[01:41] <lupine_85> is there a turkish language channel?
[01:41] <eylul> flaccid ne diyorsan anlamyorum ok
[01:41] <flaccid> i can't understand y0 lol
[01:41] <eylul> lol neee
[01:41] <Tm_T> eylul: english only channel ;(
[01:41] <eylul> efet no engg
[01:41] <eylul> :(
[01:42] <Tm_T> then we can't help you, sorry
[01:42] <lupine_85> !tr
[01:42] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:42] <shegman> sana diyorlarki inglizce konus diye
[01:42] <lupine_85> aha! :D
[01:42] <Tm_T> (why I even bother)
[01:42] <Tm_T> lupine_85: thanks
[01:42] <flaccid> hmm there is a turkish channel
[01:42] <eylul> kime diyorrr
[01:42] <flaccid> thats pretty cool
[01:42] <eylul> bana m
[01:42] <eylul> hahaha
[01:42] <eylul> :)
[01:42] <lupine_85> :)
[01:42] <shegman> evet
[01:42] <flaccid> and eylul is in it
[01:43] <eylul> eee ing bilmiyorum ama szlge bakarak yazaym bieyler
[01:43] <eylul> :)
[01:43] <lupine_85> my turkish extends as far as *chomp* :(
[01:43] <shegman> eylul: burasi sadece inglizce
[01:43] <lupine_85> !turkish
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <eylul> shegman temem merci
[01:43] <lupine_85> hmm, maybe ubotu should be updated with long names for languages as well. Looking up the ISO codes is a PITA
[01:44] <shegman> eylul: #ubuntu-tr orda trkce konusurlar
[01:44] <Tm_T> eylul: I warn you, don't make it a habit
[01:44] <lupine_85> there's, erm, nobody in ubuntu-tr
[01:44] <gsuveg> re
[01:44] <cox377> can anyone tell me how i run a traceroute with kubuntu terminal?
[01:45] <Tm_T> lupine_85: that don't make us turkish speakers
[01:45] <lupine_85> traceroute <blah> :)
[01:45] <lupine_85> Tm_T: true enough
[01:45] <Tm_T> cox377: "traceroute foo"
[01:45] <Tm_T> lupine_85: yup, we can't help him if he don't speak english
[01:45] <Tm_T> and "trashing" channel just make it worse
[01:46] <cox377> Tm_T: cheers for your reply, but whats the foo?
[01:46] <SillyZ> morning
[01:46] <lupine_85> foo==bar==anything
[01:46] <zorglu_> q. is there a tool to help configure file sharing between 2 ubuntu on a lan (using nfs or samba)
[01:47] <zorglu_> !nfs
[01:47] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:47] <SillyZ> iirc nfs will do a smb share but its been quite a while since ive setup an nfs server
[01:47] <cox377> lupine_85: traceroute bulldogdsl.com is what i'm trying to do
[01:48] <Tm_T> cox377: then write that =)
[01:48] <lupine_85> you might need to install traceroute, now that I think about it
[01:48] <Tm_T> cox377: "traceroute bulldogdsl.com"
[01:48] <zorglu_> SillyZ: ok the page from ubotu does the job but with a lot of command, i was looking for a easier tool :)
[01:48] <flaccid> eylul: zgn eer var hi kimse iinde belgili tanmlk Trk kanal. biz bkz. can yardm etmek sen burada ayn derecede biz yapmak deil konumak Trk
[01:48] <lupine_85> use traceroute -I for a Windows-style traceroute
[01:48] <zorglu_> if it exists obviouly :) else i will do the commands :)
[01:48] <zorglu_> !samba
[01:48] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:49] <gsuveg> i have probelem with acpi, the system very slow detect the cpu thermal, and dont power off the cooler. im use cpu info...
[01:49] <cox377> lupine_85: -bash: traceroute: command not found is the reply i get
[01:49] <lupine_85> then you need to install it
[01:49] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install traceroute
[01:49] <cox377> lupine_85: ahh ok
[01:49] <Tm_T> lupine_85: young and fast you are
[01:49] <lupine_85> (if you're running Gnome, there's a GUI frontend in System->Network Tools, but it's a bit naff)
[01:49] <lupine_85> :p
[01:49] <cox377> lupine_85: lol i didnt even think about it
[01:49] <cox377> lupine_85: :D
[01:50] <lupine_85> I've got no idea why it's not installed by defaulty
[01:50] <lupine_85> thre's also a tcptraceroute which is more likely to work with restrictive firewalls, as well
[01:51] <cox377> lupine_85: yeh just installing that as well because this is the response i got
[01:51] <cox377> traceroute: wrote bulldogdsl.com 40 chars, ret=-1
[01:51] <cox377>   1.153 mstraceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
[01:52] <cox377> u got any idea know what that means
[01:53] <lupine_85> no, sorry. -1 is an error code; presumably mstraceroute is trying to use a priviliged port
[01:53] <lupine_85> traceroute bulldogdsl.com works fine here
[01:54] <cox377> lupine_85: what do u mean by a priviliged port
[01:54] <lupine_85> anything below 1024
[01:54] <lupine_85> to start a server port on one of those, you have to be root
[01:54] <lupine_85> it's just a guess though
[01:55] <cox377> lupine_85: traceroute bulldogdsl.com:1023?
[01:55] <lupine_85> traceroute -I gives informative output
[01:55] <DexterF> hi
[01:55] <lupine_85> erm, no :)
[01:55] <lupine_85> maybe -p 1025
[01:55] <zorglu_> konversatoin is really a good irc client :)
[01:55] <DexterF> i installed 6.06 in vmware, just installed vmtools, but still the display is odd and the mouse won't leave the active area.
[01:55] <lupine_85> using -I gets past that though
[01:55] <DexterF> something I forgot?
[01:55] <lupine_85> Ctrl+Alt to get out of the "active area"
[01:56] <lupine_85> change the display driver to "vmware" for best results
[01:56] <DexterF> ctrl-alt should not be necessary with vmtools installed.
[01:56] <lupine_85> no idea, never used that
[01:56] <DexterF> vmware.. ok, didn't chekc that
[01:58] <cox377> lupine_85: yeh it was a firewall issue
[01:59] <CroX> Anyone know of a well working mysql manager with gui?
[01:59] <CroX> kmysqladmin isn't very stable..
[01:59] <lupine_85> phpMyAdmin
[01:59] <lupine_85> r0x0rz
[01:59] <SillyZ> phpMyAdmin works great
[02:00] <SillyZ> WebMin's SQL Administration is also very good
[02:00] <CroX> Hrm.. Must have sliped my mind.
[02:00] <cox377> is there a command to stop terminal carring out it's current action?
[02:00] <lupine_85> not as good, though ;)
[02:00] <lupine_85> ctrl+c
[02:00] <SillyZ> ctrl + c
[02:00] <CroX> They can both manage remote mysql servers?
[02:00] <lupine_85> yep
[02:01] <lupine_85> phpMyAdmin best for remote servers though
[02:01] <cox377> traceroute: wrote bulldogdsl.com 40 chars, ret=-1
[02:01] <cox377>   1.153 mstraceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
[02:01] <cox377> opps
[02:01] <cox377> 4  so-1-0-0.0.cht-cor-002.bddsl.net (83.146.19.46)  16.076 ms  14.712 ms  15.725 ms
[02:01] <cox377>  5  * *
[02:01] <CroX> Alrighty, I'll take a look at it then. Been ages since I used it.
[02:01] <cox377> it just starts giving these * * * * * * * * * * *
[02:01] <frojnd> hello, I have problems with findigs 2 lines in order to upgrade system so amarok would play .mp3 fiels. Orders were: Enable the lines which end with 'dapper universe' and 'dapper multiverse'
[02:01] <lupine_85> that's computers not responding
[02:02] <frojnd> how can I do it manually
[02:02] <lupine_85> traceroute -I works here
[02:02] <frojnd> those two lines?
[02:02] <lupine_85> frojnd: just add "universe multiverse" to the already-enabled line ending in "main restricted"
[02:03] <cox377> lupine_85: thats odd, it does it fine under cmd under windows but stops under kubuntu terminal, and it does the same thing when using the smootwall tools
[02:03] <frojnd> where is this line?
[02:06] <lupine_85> that's because windows traceroute is different
[02:06] <lupine_85> traceroute -I should emulate it, and that works well here (except for abovenet, which is normal)
[02:07] <Sundisco> hello all, i cant get wireless internet connection on my Ubuntu Desktop
[02:07] <Sundisco> can some1 help ?
[02:07] <sredna> Hi
[02:07] <lupine_85> what chipset?
[02:07] <Sundisco> 2.4 Intell Celeron
[02:07] <sredna> How do the extra paths (/etc/kde3 and /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/) end in the kde config paths?
[02:08] <lupine_85> no, what wireless chipset? :)
[02:08] <Sundisco> edimax
[02:08] <Sundisco> hold on ill check 1 min
[02:10] <lupine_85> hmm, by the looks of it, it's either an RaLink card (EW-7128g) or a (Realtek?) 8180 card (EW-7106PC)
[02:10] <Sundisco> kk back
[02:11] <Sundisco> ew7126
[02:11] <Sundisco> RTL 8180L
[02:12] <lupine_85> ok, in that case you need to use ndiswrapper
[02:12] <Sundisco> ndiswrapper
[02:12] <Sundisco> that is ?
[02:12] <lupine_85> so install the package ndiswrapper-utils
[02:12] <lupine_85> it uses your windows driver to get the card working
[02:12] <Sundisco> is it on the ubuntu cd
[02:12] <lupine_85> yes
[02:12] <Sundisco> okay thnk
[02:12] <Sundisco> s
[02:12] <Sundisco> another question
[02:13] <Sundisco> can i put this on my TV i got a 25 inch TFT but somehow its not working
[02:13] <Sundisco> 26 inch
[02:13] <Sundisco> samsung
[02:13] <lupine_85> no idea, sorry.
[02:13] <Sundisco> do i need to change the resolution
[02:13] <lupine_85> once you've installed ndiswrapper-utils, you need to run sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/driver/file.inf - that should get you an interface
[02:13] <Sundisco> or something ?
[02:13] <lupine_85> I really don't know :(
[02:14] <Sundisco> okay dw ill check thanks anyway m8
[02:22] <BadWolf> hi... i have a problem... i've just made an apt-get upgrade... and now when i want to login... there is just a console...
[02:22] <BadWolf> do you have any idea?
[02:23] <psb154> BadWolf what distribution?
[02:24] <BadWolf> hum kubuntu?
[02:24] <psb154> yep.
[02:24] <BadWolf> breezy
[02:24] <psb154> BadWolf I asked a silly question sorry.
[02:25] <psb154> BadWolf did you notice whether you upgraded xorg?
[02:25] <BadWolf> i did
[02:25] <psb154> I have something that might help then... hang on.
[02:26] <psb154> You will have to reboot first into safe mode: escape key when booting.
[02:27] <psb154> Then try this:
[02:27] <psb154> sudo apt-get install "xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[02:27] <BadWolf> but xorg works perfect!?
[02:27] <psb154> I am confused about your question then.
[02:27] <BadWolf> i told you that kde didn't work
[02:28] <BadWolf> not that xorg doesn't work
[02:28] <psb154> My bad.
[02:29] <BadWolf> lol
[02:29] <BadWolf> cya
[02:31] <wwallace_lap> why so few applications in the live cd?
[02:31] <wwallace_lap> the hd is not auto mounted?
[02:31] <wwallace_lap> i think kanotix is better
[02:31] <wwallace_lap> i wanted to move
[02:31] <wwallace_lap> but i dont think so anymore
[02:34] <mikki> nee he
[02:34] <Tm_T> ryan____________: err, what's the point with long line?
[02:34] <mikki> need help with installing nvidia driver
[02:34] <Tm_T> !nvidia
[02:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:34] <Tm_T> check that first
[02:34] <frojnd> !kaffeine
[02:35] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[02:35] <BadWolf> reee ;>
[02:35] <BadWolf> works now
[02:35] <BadWolf> ty for help
[02:35] <frojnd> !kaffeinecodecs
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeinecodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <Tm_T> frojnd: what you're looking for?
[02:35] <Tm_T> !mp3
[02:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:35] <frojnd> codecs for kaffeine
[02:35] <Tm_T> prolly that one
[02:36] <Tm_T> frojnd: you mean codecs for xine
[02:36] <frojnd> ja
[02:36] <mikki> can i install the nvidia driver in recovery mode?
[02:36] <Tm_T> mikki: I think you can
[02:36] <psb154> BadWolf what was the problem? was it the reboot that did the trick?
[02:37] <mikki> it says something about not finding kernel
[02:37] <Tm_T> mikki: I see, then I take my words back
[02:38] <BadWolf> psb154: no in kdm failsafe was set as default wm ;>
[02:48] <psb154> !nvidia
[02:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:50] <BadWolf> hum
[02:50] <BadWolf> do i need dapper for mp3 support?
[02:50] <BadWolf> i have breezy but can't find support for it anywhere
[02:51] <psb154> BadWolf try this:
[02:51] <psb154> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[02:53] <psb154> of ... off
[02:53] <psb154> lol
[02:54] <abattoir> BadWolf: in amarok?
[02:54] <BadWolf> abattoir: yes
[02:54] <BadWolf> and mpg123
[02:54] <BadWolf> psb154: yes that's for dapper :(
[02:55] <flaccid> recommended command to see number of installed packages?
[02:56] <richie> hey, new to linux. can anyone recomend a codec pack for linux. cant get xvid to work
[02:56] <abattoir> BadWolf: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[02:57] <abattoir> flaccid: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[02:57] <abattoir> richie: 32-bit processor?
[02:57] <richie> yeah
[02:57] <BadWolf> abattoir: no lines end with dapper universe
[02:57] <abattoir> !codecs
[02:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:57] <abattoir> richie: please take a look at the first link
[02:58] <Hobbsee> abattoir: flaccid dpkg -l | grep ^ii | wc -l
[02:58] <Hobbsee> to get the number
[02:58] <Hobbsee> i think
[02:58] <abattoir> BadWolf: where?
[02:59] <flaccid> w0a mad, thanks Hobbsee
[02:59] <abattoir> Hobbsee: aah, ok... didnt read the quest. properly... just woke up :)
[02:59] <Hobbsee> it's either that, or /2
[03:00] <abattoir> BadWolf: the link i gave is for breezy
[03:01] <sturla> Someone knows media player which have full support ass subtitles(not convert ass to srt) ?
[03:04] <abattoir> sturla: kaffeine doesnt support it?
[03:06] <sturla> kaffeine support but i write i don't need player who convert ass to srt :)
[03:07] <abattoir> sturla: so you mean kaffeine converts it to srt before displaying?
[03:08] <soulrider_> has anyone tried upgrading to edgy yet ? :P
[03:09] <_ste> Hey guys, tough question for you!
[03:10] <_ste> Has anyone managed to access a Microsoft VPN network using kubuntu Dapper?
[03:10] <_ste> Im trying to find a linux client that will let me do this, apparently kernel 2.6.15 supports this, but no joy as of yet?
[03:11] <abattoir> !vpn
[03:11] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:11] <_ste> cheers dude ;)
[03:11] <Jucato> hey abattoir! nice to see you again :P
[03:11] <abattoir> _ste: ^^ that might help, i think its a bit gaming specific... but see if it is useful
[03:11] <abattoir> hi Jucato :)
[03:12] <flaccid> does that page actually give info on msn vpn access by client?
[03:13] <flaccid> err -n
[03:13] <octan> does anyone got some cool videos that i can loop? i wanna use some nice video of a fireplase or waterfall etc.. simmelar videos with xwinwrap to set my wallpaper
[03:15] <octan> anyone know wher i can get my hand on videos like this?
[03:16] <phreakys> hello
[03:16] <phreakys> i wonder how i can make myself a rootuser within kde
[03:16] <phreakys> can someone help me out?
[03:17] <phreakys> i want *unlimited* access to all files :/
[03:17] <octan> yes
[03:17] <abattoir> phreakys: you can have unlimited access to all files through sudo
[03:17] <abattoir> !sudo
[03:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:18] <octan> kdesu konueror
[03:18] <phreakys> aha, i tried sudo konqueror and that didnt work from the desktop
[03:18] <mikki> !7884
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7884 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <phreakys> it did work from the terminal
[03:18] <phreakys> kdesu works from desktop octan?
[03:18] <Jucato> phreakys: use kdesu konqueror, not sudo
[03:18] <phreakys> thanks :D
[03:18] <Jucato> !kdesu
[03:18] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:18] <octan> phreakys yes
[03:19] <octan> phreakys, just make a icon, and make the command kdesu konqueror :D
[03:19] <phreakys> oops
[03:19] <octan> name it superkonqueror
[03:19] <Jucato> (or add an entry to the K Menu
[03:19] <Jucato> )
[03:20] <phreakys> great :)
[03:20] <phreakys> hm
[03:21] <phreakys> it doesnt open. im using kdfclient or something(the one std. in the launchbutton)
[03:21] <phreakys> kdesu kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
[03:21] <Jucato> phreakys: try: kdesu "kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing"
[03:21] <flaccid> what to do to make system reboot and do a file systems check thing
[03:22] <ubuntu> flaccid: you don't reboot a system to do filecheck
[03:22] <phreakys> yes! works like a charm
[03:22] <phreakys> really nice. thanks
[03:22] <flaccid> i remember there is a restart command with a switch to do an fcsk
[03:22] <flaccid> on reboot
[03:23] <Jucato> flaccid: man shutdown. I think the command would be "sudo shutdown -rF now"
[03:23] <phreakys> would it be possible to disable the pw-screen when starting the program?
[03:23] <flaccid> cheers
[03:23] <phreakys> like kde logging in as root
[03:23] <mikki> how do u restart the xserver ?
[03:23] <Jucato> phreakys: nope
[03:23] <mikki> or turn it off?
[03:24] <phreakys> ok, np. i can live with that :-)
[03:24] <Jucato> mikki: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace but remember to save what needs to be saved
[03:24] <mikki> ok, but when i do that my computer freezes, and i need to install display driver
[03:25] <Diabolic> I have a problem with movie files being very bright, no matter what player I use.  Anyone know anything about this?
[03:25] <Jucato> mikki: to really keep X down (stopping it), Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a command line, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[03:25] <phreakys> hm, whats the default profilename of the filemanager look?
[03:25] <Jucato> mikki: then do what you have to do, and "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" to bring it up again
[03:25] <mikki> ok thx
[03:26] <Jucato> phreakys: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[03:26] <Jucato> iirc
[03:26] <phreakys> thanks
[03:28] <Jucato> phreakys: btw, just so that you would know, "kfmclient openProfile <profile>" is the same as "konqueror --profile <profile>"
[03:28] <phreakys> ah great. ill use that one then
[03:41] <flaccid> !smart
[03:41] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[03:41] <flaccid> !smartd
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <flaccid> how to check disk for physical damage with smart?
[03:42] <zinfacter> Hi, I'm trying to play a video, but I get this error telling me it can't load library from wmvdmod.dll or something, and then the video comes up with sound only. is there a fix for this?
[03:43] <ajus> if i install nvidia driver can i still make my pc to hibernate?
[03:44] <abattoir> flaccid: smart is a package manager... how can you use it to check for physical damage in a disk?
[03:44] <abattoir> flaccid: unless you install a package through it, which does that :P
[03:44] <flaccid> S.M.A.R.T
[03:44] <flaccid> that thing
[03:44] <thompa> kubuntu+1
[03:45] <thompa> nevermind
[03:45] <zinfacter> no one knows anything about this wmvdmod.dll error?
[03:45] <ajus> zinfacter: try downloading win32 codecs from mplayer.hq
[03:45] <_ste> do you have codecs installed?
[03:45] <phreakys> hi again ;)
[03:45] <zinfacter> no, thought it might've been divx but that didn't work
[03:46] <phreakys> i wonder...would it be possible to have a logo loginscreen, like xp has? (instead of typing username)
[03:46] <phreakys> its just for the looks
[03:47] <zinfacter> mplayer.hq doesn't work
[03:48] <ajus> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html
[03:49] <ajus> i downloaded all codecs.. and all my movies working
[03:49] <zinfacter> ok cool, i'll try that out then
[03:49] <Jucato> phreakys: if you turn off/disabled the KDM theme, you can have something like that, but it's plain
[03:50] <phreakys> thanks
[03:50] <ajus> after downloaded.. make sure you tell your player to look for those codecs.
[03:51] <ajus> anyone knows if i install nvidia driver.. will my pc can hibernate?
[03:51] <phreakys> you probably need an acpi patch for that ajus?
[03:51] <Conhe> how-to install tk and tcl to amsn
[03:52] <ajus> so.. there's no problem wether to install nvdia or not right?
[03:52] <Hawkwind> Conhe: apt-cache search tcl  will give you all the apps with tcl in the name
[03:52] <phreakys> nope, you can install it anyway
[03:53] <Conhe> Hawkwind: ty
[03:53] <Hawkwind> Conhe: Or you could use Gaim which is a multi-protocol instant messenger and IMO a better one than amsn
[03:53] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind! glad you didn't stumble out of bed this time
[03:53] <ajus> cool.. and should i install in text mode or by synaptic?
[03:53] <DwLinuxero> hombree
[03:53] <DwLinuxero> que tal?
[03:53] <Conhe> Hawkwind: no like gaim
[03:53] <DwLinuxero> una pregunta tengo para vosotros algun manual para instalar aixgl decentemente?
[03:54] <DwLinuxero> es que este http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/ me lio
[03:54] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Too tired to stumble this morning :P
[03:54] <phreakys> depends. i think you can install it from synaptic fine. nvidia has better support than ati imho
[03:54] <Hawkwind> !es
[03:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:54] <ajus> ok.. i'll try.. thanks phreakys
[03:54] <ajus> and bye.. ppl
[03:59] <Conhe> root@LINUX:/inst/amsn-0.96RC1# ./amsn
[03:59] <Conhe> Application initialization failed: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable
[03:59] <Conhe> =\
[04:00] <CroX> !win32codecs
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Conhe> !amsn
[04:00] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[04:00] <Jucato> Conhe: don't login as root. try "sudo ./amsn"
[04:00] <Jucato> or install the one from the repos
[04:00] <Sundisco> whats sudo ?>
[04:00] <Conhe> ?
[04:00] <Jucato> !sudo
[04:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:00] <v3ctor> !w32codecs
[04:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:00] <Sundisco> oke thnx
[04:01] <DwLinuxero> emm
[04:01] <DwLinuxero> Alguien me puede ayudar?
[04:01] <Jucato> !es
[04:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:01] <flaccid> how to check disk for errors?
[04:02] <_ste> hard question dudes?
[04:02] <_ste> i have had some success setting up VPN
[04:03] <_ste> but does anyone know how to lookup the ip of a web address. I know i need to use dig or a similar program, but the killer is the address needs to specififed in CIDR format and i do not know what this is?
[04:03] <Sundisco> i read it but i dont understand how i get into sudo ?
[04:05] <mikki> .
[04:05] <Sundisco> i read it but i dont understand how i get into sudo ? some1 help me plzzzzzz how do i get intor sudo ?
[04:05] <diabolic_> speak
[04:05] <_ste> sundisco - do you know what a terminal is?
[04:06] <Sundisco> uhm no
[04:06] <_ste> right
[04:06] <v3ctor> CIDR address embeds netmask value in the IP address to make it classless
[04:06] <_ste> ok
[04:06] <flaccid> are you in Konsole, Sundisco?
[04:06] <Sundisco> is it somewhere in the administration
[04:06] <Sundisco> no im on my computer cuz i dont have internet on it i need to know it and ill write it down
[04:06] <Sundisco> i have to put internet on it
[04:06] <Sundisco> wireless
[04:06] <Sundisco> its so hard :S
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Sundisco: alt-f2 and type: konsole
[04:06] <Sundisco> when booting or in graphical interface?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Sundisco: When you hit alt-f2 it will bring up a window you can type in.  Then just type in konsole
[04:07] <_ste> V3ctor: Cheers dude, i figured it was something to do with ip and netmask, but could you expand on that a little? Ta :)
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Sundisco: While in the graphical interface which should be KDE
[04:07] <Sundisco> kk..
[04:07] <_ste> my knowledge of netwroking is a little sketchy
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Sundisco: Or you can click on the big K in the lower left corner of the screen, and you can find 'konsole' in the menus as well
[04:08] <Sundisco> oke ill check now
[04:08] <Sundisco> thnx
[04:08] <v3ctor> _ste: i think they want it in IP/Netmask format: 10.240.8.1/24
[04:08] <flaccid> yep thats cidr
[04:08] <flaccid> 24 networks
[04:08] <flaccid> 255.255.255.0
[04:08] <v3ctor> 24 bit netmask
[04:09] <flaccid> is that right netmask?
[04:09] <v3ctor> correct
[04:09] <flaccid> cool
[04:09] <flaccid> heh i remember
[04:09] <_ste> so the netmask means the first three XXX.XXX.XXX in the IP stays the same right
[04:09] <larson9999> what's the deal with firefox and sound in things like youtube? i got it working with aoss but it stops when i change sites and then i have to quit ff and restart it before the sound works again.  is there sometime i can change so it works right?
[04:09] <flaccid> wt
[04:10] <v3ctor> correct
[04:10] <_ste> its only the last number that changes to give the detail of the computer on the subnetwork your trying to reach right? :S
[04:10] <v3ctor> you don;t need me anymore ;)
[04:10] <_ste> and that number after the slash in the CIDR is not a port its something else?
[04:12] <v3ctor> _ste: that is the netmask
[04:12] <_ste> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:12] <_ste> i think i see
[04:13] <_ste> so you have IP1.IP2.IP3.IP4/NETMASK (number of pc on remote network?)
[04:13] <_ste> the penny drops lol :)
[04:13] <flaccid> yeah but don't call it IP1, IP2 etc
[04:14] <flaccid> don't know what number of pc on remote network thing you mean
[04:14] <_ste> ehmmm
[04:15] <_ste> when you say that number after the slash is the netmask...what do you mean by that
[04:15] <_ste> its not in the familiar 255.255.255.0 style id expect? Am i misunderstanding something here?
[04:15] <flaccid> _ste: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4#Allocation
[04:15] <_ste> lol i think that'd be easier
[04:15] <_ste> cheers
[04:16] <_ste> thanks for everyones help. This is starting to make my head hurt :S
[04:17] <flaccid> this will help understand the bits
[04:17] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing#Prefix_aggregation
[04:18] <flaccid> so /24, class 1 C, 256 bits = 24 bit = 255.255.255.000
[04:18] <flaccid> err
[04:19] <flaccid> 256 hosts
[04:19] <_ste> cool. I got those sites both both later reading when my head doesnt hurt so much
[04:19] <flaccid> and the .0 used for network id and usually the .255 for broadcast
[04:20] <flaccid> so minus 2 hosts
[04:20] <flaccid> yeah i never understand it and when i do, i forget
[04:20] <_ste> l;)
[04:20] <_ste> the VPN tunnel is set up and connects, its just the routing that seems to be causing the problems
[04:21] <flaccid> hmm
[04:21] <_ste> pptp config says its connecting and everything, but it cant ping the connection
[04:22] <flaccid> is your firewall on?
[04:22] <_ste> i have no idea
[04:23] <flaccid> whats the response from ping
[04:23] <_ste> ill paste you the output from the program im using to cnnect if you like
[04:24] <_ste> OK, the program says this:
[04:24] <_ste> Using interface ppp0pptpconfig: monitoring interface ppp0
[04:24] <_ste> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/2
[04:24] <_ste> CHAP authentication succeeded
[04:24] <_ste> MPPE 128-bit stateless compression enabled
[04:24] <_ste> Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP
[04:24] <_ste> local  IP address 129.11.40.24
[04:24] <_ste> remote IP address 129.11.162.158
[04:24] <_ste> primary   DNS address 129.11.159.114
[04:24] <_ste> secondary DNS address 129.11.159.122
[04:24] <_ste> pptpconfig: pppd process exit status 0 (started)
[04:24] <_ste> ip route replace 129.11.162.158 via 192.168.0.1 dev eth1  src 192.168.0.3
[04:24] <_ste> pptpconfig: routes added to remote networks
[04:24] <_ste> pptpconfig: DNS changes made to /etc/resolv.conf
[04:24] <_ste> pptpconfig: connected
[04:24] <_ste> did you guys copy that?
[04:25] <Jucato> _ste: don't paste all your output in the channel
[04:25] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:25] <Jucato> use that ^^^^
[04:25] <_ste> oops :)
[04:25] <reon> Have you heard of Pastbin ???
[04:25] <_ste> nope
[04:25] <flaccid> what is the response from ping?
[04:25] <_ste> committed major faux pas ;)
[04:25] <reon> please go to pastebin and post your output there and then point us to the link
[04:26] <reon> not nice flooding the channel :)
[04:27] <_ste> does that pastebin link work for you?
[04:27] <_ste> i get unknown host?
[04:28] <flaccid> are you on the vpn atm?
[04:28] <_ste> nope killed it
[04:28] <flaccid> what dns server is host using
[04:28] <flaccid> host -v paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:29] <flaccid> host -v paste.ubuntu-nl.org | tail -n1
[04:30] <_ste> thats odd
[04:30] <_ste> i typed in that host stuff flaccid and it worked
[04:30] <_ste> i looked up stuff
[04:30] <_ste> but konquerer cant seem to find the site :S
[04:31] <flaccid> is konq using a proxy?
[04:31] <_ste> nope
[04:31] <_ste> very odd
[04:31] <flaccid> perhaps restart it
[04:31] <_ste> maybe
[04:32] <flaccid> there is no proxy in kcontrol -> network | proxy
[04:32] <goffi> hi
[04:32] <_ste> i went into proxy settings in konqui and clicked connect directly
[04:33] <flaccid> fair enough
[04:33] <flaccid> is it looking up from the normal dns server, not the one through vpn?
[04:33] <_ste> should be, i mean i killed vpn or so i thought
[04:34] <_ste> i havent changed any dns settings
[04:34] <flaccid> host -v paste.ubuntu-nl.org | tail -n1
[04:34] <flaccid> with that command is it the ip of your normal dns server or the vpn dns server?
[04:34] <_ste> i couldnt tell you as i dont know what my normal dns server is
[04:35] <ge2x> sudo echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss says taht i have no permissions whta should i do?
[04:35] <_ste> hang on....if i dig he dns server address it should say
[04:35] <flaccid> is it a 129.11.x.x address, s
[04:35] <flaccid> ?
[04:35] <_ste> whether its at tiscali (My ISP) or not right ;)
[04:35] <_ste> dns is 129.11
[04:35] <_ste> yeah
[04:36] <_ste> is that ok? :)
[04:36] <flaccid> [2006-09-19 00:25]  <_ste> primary   DNS address 129.11.159.114
[04:36] <flaccid> that is what your vpn changed in resolv.conf
[04:37] <_ste> ehm
[04:37] <_ste> ill tell you in a moment...
[04:38] <_ste> primary   DNS address 129.11.159.114
[04:38] <_ste> the vpn client changes stuff back when you disconnect
[04:38] <flaccid> verify that it did
[04:39] <_ste> yeah
[04:39] <_ste> i just lookedi n resolv.conf
[04:39] <flaccid> you still have to let me know your ping reponse..
[04:39] <_ste> the addresses listed are  129.11.159.114
[04:39] <ronnylinux> hi people
[04:39] <ronnylinux> i got a problem
[04:39] <_ste> and another one which seems standard
[04:39] <flaccid> then whats the ping problem?
[04:39] <flaccid> or whats the problem?
[04:39] <ronnylinux> how can i change my resolution
[04:40] <_ste> when you say ping response....you mean when the vpn is connected right?
[04:40] <ronnylinux> i use kubuntu
[04:40] <flaccid> yeah
[04:40] <ronnylinux> i didn't change anything
[04:40] <_ste> one moment :) ...
[04:40] <ronnylinux> but now my resolution is 800*600
[04:40] <ronnylinux> how can i change that
[04:41] <_ste> i dunno what the issue with pastebin is, the link just doesnt work (shrugs)
[04:41] <ronnylinux> i'm beginner in linux, does anybody can help me?
[04:41] <flaccid> http://pastebin.ca
[04:41] <_ste> nope :S
[04:41] <_ste> that dont work either apparently
[04:41] <_ste> really odd that
[04:42] <flaccid> ronnylinux: goto system settings | display from the kmenu
[04:42] <flaccid> i can't ping that dns server
[04:43] <_ste> the one i supplied?
[04:43] <CroX> How do I install drivers for my gfx card?
[04:43] <_ste> hang on
[04:43] <_ste> im gonna go lookup dns details from my isp
[04:43] <ronnylinux> i don't have that option, i'm im system preferences
[04:43] <flaccid> but i can do lookups on it so their icmp echo request is off
[04:44] <ronnylinux> there is an option appearence
[04:44] <ronnylinux> but there's nothing to do there
[04:44] <flaccid> well go to it
[04:44] <_ste> i can use that to verify that those dns servers are the  ones for my isp not leeds uni
[04:44] <kabturek> hello
[04:44] <flaccid> they are leeds uni
[04:44] <flaccid> and they are only giving me limited lookups back
[04:45] <flaccid> do a host 129.11.159.114
[04:45] <flaccid> and see the rdns entry
[04:45] <kabturek> got a little problem with the instalation of kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu
[04:45] <ronnylinux> flaccid can you help me
[04:45] <ronnylinux> i prefer to use the console
[04:45] <gupta> !kab2kab
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kab2kab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <ronnylinux> to solve my problem
[04:45] <flaccid> ronnylinux: then learn xorg
[04:46] <flaccid> otherwise use the GUI available
[04:46] <_ste> yeah
[04:46] <_ste> its the leeds uni dns server
[04:46] <_ste> arse
[04:46] <flaccid> yeah
[04:46] <j2daosh> ive never had to compile anything before but now i have to compile an application. i did ./configure ; make ; make install
[04:46] <flaccid> thats why _ste
[04:46] <_ste> the client overwrote my dns settings
[04:46] <_ste> cheers dude ;)
[04:46] <ronnylinux> flaccid there is any gui to change the resolution in kde
[04:46] <j2daosh> then i tried ./INSTALL and it says permission is denied
[04:46] <_ste> maybe
[04:46] <_ste> is that something you can do in control panel?
[04:46] <flaccid> ronnylinux: there is kcontrol and there is also system settings
[04:46] <_ste> it has a section for dns settings
[04:47] <flaccid> brb ciggie
[04:47] <kabturek> i think thereare errors in packages - kde/kubuntu-desktop has wrong dependencies
[04:48] <GnarusLeo> When I try to pair my cellular phone to my computer using bluetooth I get the following error: "Problem connecting with K610i.Host rejected for security reasons" .. Ubuntu Didnt even let me enter a pairing code!!?? .. I have checked that it has to use /etc/bluetooth/link_key ... wich I dont have
[04:48] <kabturek> The following packages have unmet dependencies: |kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed | E: Broken packages
[04:49] <j2daosh> what do i do when a ./configure configs wrong and leaves out "'"'s in the file?
[04:51] <kabturek> hallo? anyone?
[04:54] <flaccid> i'm off
[04:55] <_ste> cool
[04:55] <_ste> thanks for all your help dude
[04:55] <flaccid> np cia0
[04:55] <Jucato> bye flaccid
[04:55] <_ste> i think i can repair the damage on my system myself now i know whats wrong ;)
[04:55] <_ste> cya
[04:55] <j2daosh> can someone help me with compiling quingy?
[04:56] <j2daosh> it is kicking my butt and i dont know anything about C so all there coding errors are riddles to me
[04:56] <CroX> I've downloaded this ati driver, a .run file. How do I use it? :s
[04:56] <_ste> Crox:
[04:56] <_ste> i think i know what to do
[04:56] <Jucato> !ati
[04:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:56] <_ste> yeah do what he said
[04:57] <_ste> easier :)
[04:57] <CroX> Heh, thanks
[04:57] <Jucato> j2daosh: what are you trying to compile?
[04:57] <_ste> laters dude, thanks all
[04:59] <kabturek> !kde
[04:59] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:59] <j2daosh> quingy
[04:59] <Jucato> j2daosh: have you installed "build-essential"?
[04:59] <kabturek> IT DOESN'T WORK ( sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop)
[04:59] <j2daosh> that way i can test out the new x managers i am going to install
[04:59] <j2daosh> yeah i have that package
[05:00] <j2daosh> and it went through the configure and the make and the make install
[05:00] <Jucato> then?
[05:00] <j2daosh> but when i run ./INSTALL it gives me a bunch of programming errors
[05:00] <j2daosh> like its missing ' and some other things
[05:00] <j2daosh> i have never managed to compile anything correctly
[05:00] <j2daosh> it just wont do it on my system for some reason :(
[05:01] <Jucato> hm... have you checked the README or INSTALL files that came with the package?
[05:01] <Lynoure> Does trying to install debian-archive-keyring give WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated  to you? Has something changed? Seem majorly unwise to install a package of keys if I cannot trust that package
[05:01] <j2daosh> what am i supposed to check for? i read the readme file
[05:01] <j2daosh> it told me to do what i did
[05:03] <j2daosh> does ubuntu even suport directFB?
[05:03] <Jucato> j2daosh: these are the commands you needed to enter: "./configure" "make" "sudo make install"
[05:03] <uwo> hi all- having problems with ipod  - it was working fine for a while, but lately it mounts as read-only every time, meaning i can not sync... before it was mounting definetly also with write permission (i needed to erase a lock file every once in a while and was able to do it) - being a rather n00b - why does it mount read--only, where is this set and how do i change this?
[05:04] <Jucato> j2daosh: I'm not sure if the kernel supports it....
[05:04] <j2daosh> .... that might b the problem.... arrrgg
[05:04] <Jucato> j2daosh: did you use "sudo make install"
[05:04] <j2daosh> no i did make install but as root
[05:05] <Jucato> hm... you logged in as root?
[05:05] <j2daosh> no i su'ed
[05:05] <Jucato> hm.. that might be the problem. try doing "sudo make install" instead
[05:06] <CroX> Ugh.. My gfx card is nowhere to be found, a ATI Radeon Xpress 1100
[05:07] <CroX> Anyone?
[05:07] <pierreth> how can i install my sound driver?
[05:07] <DexterF> mounting an smb share fails here, dmesg says:
[05:07] <DexterF> smbfs: mount_data version 1029990773 is not supported
[05:07] <DexterF> what's this?
[05:07] <Jucato> j2daosh: btw, why are you trying to INSTALL? it's a text file
[05:07] <Jucato> "trying to run INSTALL"
[05:13] <ubuntu> hi
[05:13] <ubuntu> i want to know what command i do to actualize my system
[05:14] <ubuntu> i forget, is something about apt-install update
[05:14] <ubuntu> its correct?
[05:14] <yuriy> "actualize"?
[05:15] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  to make sure you are fully updated
[05:15] <ubuntu> good man
[05:15] <ubuntu> thanks
[05:15] <ubuntu> sorry for the fuckin bad english
[05:16] <Hawkwind> !language
[05:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:16] <v3ctor> beat me to it
[05:21] <Nickste> Why is the kubuntu GUI feel slower than windoze?
[05:22] <Jucato> ooh someone's using Kopete for IRC... brave soul :)
[05:22] <j2daosh> why is he brave?
[05:22] <Jucato> Kopete's IRC functions are a bit... hm.... "different"
[05:23] <j2daosh> ahh
[05:23] <j2daosh> never used kopete... i will stick with xchat, konversation, irssi
[05:23] <j2daosh> ok i just installed fluxboz, do i have to restart in order for it to take effect or can i just log out?
[05:23] <j2daosh> box*
[05:23] <Jucato> just log out
[05:23] <j2daosh> rgr
[05:23] <j2daosh> ty
[05:26] <j2daosh> im liking fluxbox already :P
[05:26] <Neo8750> when is kde4 to be released?
[05:26] <j2daosh> quick question though
[05:26] <j2daosh> how do i make new themes?
[05:27] <Jucato> Neo8750: next year
[05:27] <Neo8750> you need to edit the theme file
[05:27] <Tm_T> Neo8750: first quarter next year is target
[05:27] <j2daosh> is there a tutorial on it?
[05:27] <j2daosh> i want new wallpapaers and such
[05:27] <JohnFlux> Tm_T: i thought we changed it to second or third quarter?
[05:27] <Tm_T> JohnFlux: it is? I haven't heard
[05:27] <Neo8750> j2daosh: there maybe an ap now
[05:27] <Jucato> j2daosh: hm.. you might want to check with the fluxbox site/guys
[05:28] <Tm_T> JohnFlux: if you have some info about it somewhere, please share :)
[05:28] <Jucato> heh
[05:28] <Neo8750> i don't get why flux is installed by defualt with out tabs on
[05:28] <Jucato> maybe we
[05:28] <abattoir> hi Tm_T :)
[05:28] <Tm_T> hi
[05:28] <Jucato> maybe we'll get a more definite target release date after aKademy
[05:34] <CroX> Alright, should be installed and fine. Cya after reboot. (I hope)
[05:37] <JohnFlux> Jucato: i doubt we can give a definite target release date this early on
[05:38] <Jucato> JohnFlux: yeah I thought so too. wishful thinking :)
[05:39] <CroX> Woo! It's working!
[05:39] <stepehrm> bonjour
[05:40] <JohnFlux> Jucato: maybe G* or H*
[05:40] <Jucato> hopefully G*
[05:40] <j2daosh> ok i gt some themes...how do i get the background to change?
[05:41] <Jucato> j2daosh: you do realize you are asking about fluxbox on a KDE-based channel?
[05:41] <Jucato> :)
[05:41] <j2daosh> lol
[05:42] <Jucato> of course there might be someone here who might know about it, so it might not hurt to ask. :P
[05:42] <j2daosh> you got a point
[05:42] <Jucato> still, you might get more "sane" answers from #fluxbox (if there's a channel like that)
[05:42] <jesus> joint #ubuntu
[05:43] <Jucato> btw, my answer to you would be: logout, choose "KDE" in the Sessions menu, enter your password, right-click on the Desktop, choose Configure Desktop, then in the Background options, choose your wallpaper :P
[05:46] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: are you out there?
[05:48] <j2daosh> nah they aren't giving me sane answers
[05:49] <Jucato> hm...
[05:49] <arienh4> i've got a problem, because Kpersonalizer starts up every time time i boot my computer...
[05:49] <maninder> guy
[05:49] <maninder> my stupid windows
[05:49] <Mortice> arienh4: I had exactly the same problem. Let me find the page that detailed the fix.
[05:49] <maninder> is usless
[05:50] <arienh4> i once had a fix but...
[05:50] <Mortice> arienh4: http://www.kde-forum.org/archive/15137/thread.html has a post which details a fix.
[05:50] <arienh4> i'll have a try
[05:53] <arienh4> the file  ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc is empty!
[05:53] <Jucato> arienh4: but it exists?
[05:53] <Jucato> just put in the lines
[05:53] <arienh4> i think so
[05:54] <Mortice> even if it doesn't exist, add in the lines that the post tells you to add
[05:54] <Jucato> if the file exists, put in the lines. if it doesn't make the file and put in the lines :)
[05:54] <Mortice> or you could do the fix which involves editing startkde
[05:54] <Mortice> which is in the post below
[05:55] <Jucato> hm.. does that happen to by my post?
[05:55] <arienh4> hope it happens
[05:55] <arienh4> *helps
[05:55] <Jucato> ah yes it is :)
[05:56] <arienh4> why don't they update Kpersonalizer then?
[05:56] <Jucato> it's a bug... long story :)
[05:57] <arienh4> but it's kubuntu only, why?
[05:57] <photoguy> after i download a tar.gz what are the commands to open it and put it in the right dir?
[05:57] <photoguy> from command line
[05:57] <Jucato> photoguy: you can use Ark (archive program)
[05:57] <Jucato> ah
[05:57] <Jucato> tar -xvzf <.tar.gz> I think
[05:59] <amy__> im really confused :) just got linux and really dont understand what this is!!
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> photoguy,  depends on what the file is supposed to be - as to what to do with it.
[06:00] <Jucato> amy__: in the K Menu, there's a Help entry. Look for something called "Kubuntu Desktop Guide", it has a brief introduction to Linux and Kubuntu
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> TLDP.org has many linux starter guides as well
[06:00] <photoguy> it is gkrellm-theme file
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> photoguy,  check the gkrellm home page and see what directory to copy the thing to. It may not even need to be uncompressed
[06:02] <amy__> thanks guys :)
[06:06] <photoguy> ok, its downloaded and in my ome/dwi/desktop folder.. needs to be untared in the /home/dwi/.ghellm2/themes  folder... how would i go about doing that?
[06:07] <CroX> How can I change my keyboard layout?
[06:07] <gsuveg> within system setting
[06:07] <Jucato> System Settings > Keyboard ?
[06:08] <Jucato> er not that
[06:08] <CroX> Couldn't find it there
[06:08] <Fade> photoguy: tar xvzf tarfile.tar.gz -C /home/dwi/.gkrellm2/themes
[06:08] <Jucato> System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout
[06:08] <CroX> Jucato: Thanks
[06:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: i think its better to tell him use kcontrol
[06:08] <trappist> Fade: you mean cvzf?
[06:08] <Jucato> Kiongku: he's not going to touch COmmand Shortcuts so it won't crash :P
[06:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: bcoz of the freaking bug
[06:09] <Kiongku> Jucato: hmm lol :P if u say so
[06:09] <Fade> he wanted to untar the file, not (c)reate one.
[06:09] <Kiongku> xvf?
[06:09] <trappist> ah.  or even just dv
[06:09] <trappist> xf
[06:09] <Jucato> xvzf
[06:09] <trappist> stupid home row keys
[06:09] <Kiongku> Jucato: z for gzip only
[06:10] <Fade> if it's a bzip2 archive use 'j' instead of 'z'
[06:10] <Jucato> Kiongku: yes, he's trying to extract/unzip a .tar.gz file
[06:10] <trappist> "tar xf" will handle bzipped or gzipped tarballs
[06:10] <Kiongku> hmm o0
[06:10] <trappist> with GNU tar, anyway
[06:10] <OOD> why not just use ark ?
[06:10] <trappist> don't try that on solaris :)
[06:10] <Fade> it doesn't hurt to be explicit.
[06:10] <trappist> OOD: ark is for girls
[06:11] <OOD> lol
[06:11] <Jucato> trappist: heh
[06:11] <Fade> 'cause eventually they'll find themself on a bsd box or a solaris box, or an irix box.
[06:11] <Jucato> Fade: hm... by the time they do, they would have known how to do those stuff on the command line
[06:11] <Kiongku> trappist: there is no progs for girls.. progs are for everyone
[06:11] <trappist> Fade: no, I always specify because if I don't I'll forget and one day I'll be on a sun box or something and wonder why it doesn't work.  same reason I say "tar zxf" and not "tar -zxf"
[06:11] <trappist> Kiongku: it was a joke
[06:12] <trappist> Fade: zackly
[06:12] <Kiongku> trappist: why not say ark is for boys..
[06:12] <trappist> Kiongku: that wouldn't be a good joke
[06:12] <Fade> ark == bleck
[06:12] <Fade> heh
[06:12] <photoguy> fade - i tried that, but it didnt work
[06:12] <Kiongku> trappist: but it sure is not expected XSD
[06:12] <Kiongku> *XD
[06:13] <Fade> photoguy: be more detailed in your failure reports, becase as it stands my response is "Really? works for me." :)
[06:13] <trappist> is XD a smiley or an acronym I'm not familiar with?
[06:13] <Fade> anime has destroyed emoticons. o_()
[06:14] <Jucato> O_o
[06:14] <Kiongku> Fade: hmm?
[06:14] <Fade> grasshopper!
[06:14] <Kiongku> Fade: whats ur reasoning
[06:14] <Jucato> -_-
[06:14] <trappist> Fade: I assume that was for me?
[06:14] <Fade> not at all. just babbeling.
[06:15] <photoguy> fade - tarr xvzf Gkrellm-Skins.tar.z -C /home/dwi/.ghrellm2/themes
[06:15] <Fade> is it actually a .z file?
[06:15] <photoguy> no such file or directory
[06:15] <Fade> 'cause that'd be soooo 1991
[06:15] <Kiongku> trappist: anime fan?
[06:16] <Fade> I can't remember the last time I saw a compress file.
[06:16] <trappist> Kiongku: not really
[06:16] <Kiongku> trappist: ah lol.
[06:17] <Jucato> hm... can we get back to helping photoguy?
[06:17] <Kiongku> sure
[06:18] <Kiongku> tar.z or tar.Z?
[06:18] <Fade> photoguy: you have the filename wrong.
[06:18] <Fade> or you aren't in the right place.
[06:19] <trappist> photoguy: you did misspell gkrellm up there: /home/dwi/.ghrellm2/themes
[06:20] <amy__> wow. that was a really confusing conversatino 2 watch lol
[06:20] <trappist> you also misspelled tar (tarr)
[06:20] <Fade> make sure you're in the same directory as the tar file, or give the explicit path to it in the tar command.
[06:20] <amy__> *conversation
[06:20] <Kiongku> amy__: hmm?...
[06:20] <amy__> Kiongku: yes?
[06:20] <Kiongku> amy__: nothing ^^
[06:20] <Jucato> ugh!! it's past midnight! :(
[06:20] <Kiongku> Jucato: bleh its pat eight
[06:20] <Kiongku> *past
[06:21] <Jucato> heh I should be sleeping...
[06:21] <amy__> Kiongku: oh now I really want to know what the hmm was for!! =P
[06:21] <Kiongku> Jucato: :D
[06:21] <amy__> its about 5.30 :)
[06:21] <Kiongku> amy__: <amy__> wow. that was a really confusing conversatino 2 watch lol
[06:21] <trappist> Fade: do you notice any problems with the command he gave? tarr xvzf Gkrellm-Skins.tar.z -C /home/dwi/.ghrellm2/themes
[06:21] <Kiongku> trappist: tarr
[06:21] <Jucato> I also noticed he hasn't responded yet :)
[06:21] <Fade> well, I noticed the spelling mistakes, but assumed they were irc typos.
[06:22] <Kiongku> lol
[06:22] <amy__> Kiongku: wow i feel special that i got a hmm for that. if this wasnt just through a computer i'd give you a biscuit or something lol
[06:22] <Kiongku> where is the person anyway
[06:22] <Jucato> photoguy: are you still with us?
[06:22] <Kiongku> amy__: ehrm /me feels like a dog..
[06:22] <Fade> well, either one could cause a failure if that was the actual cut/paste of the command he issued. ;)
[06:22] <photoguy> yes
[06:23] <amy__> Kiongku: well i meant a chocolate biscuit! still feel luke a dog? cuz i want one so ya never know... lol
[06:23] <amy__> *like
[06:23] <photoguy> sorry guys, knock on the door
[06:24] <photoguy> they were IRC typos
[06:25] <photoguy> BRB
[06:25] <Jucato> presuming that "Gkrellm-Skins.tar.gz" is the name of the file, it should go something like "tar xvzf Gkrellm-Skins.tar.gz -C /home/home/.gkrellm2/themes"
[06:25] <Fade> tar xvzf Gkrellm-Skins.tar.gz -C /home/dwi/.gkrellm2/themes
[06:25] <Jucato> rawr!
[06:25] <Jucato>  /home/home... I really need to get some sleep
[06:25] <Kiongku> i thought it was Gkrellm-Skins.tar.z ..
[06:25] <Jucato> photoguy: follow Fade's...
[06:25] <Jucato> Kiongku: afaik, there's no .z file
[06:25] <Kiongku> there are tar.Z i think.. not sure though
[06:25] <Fade> a simple 'ls' will give you the filename. ;)
[06:25] <Kiongku> amy__: u might get an irc doggy :P
[06:26] <Jucato> ouch!
[06:26] <Kiongku> KAI!
[06:26] <Jucato> yah!
[06:27] <Kiongku> Fade: time?
[06:27] <Fade> just bought a gamecube, and resident evil 4 is waiting tonight.
[06:27] <Kiongku> bleh re4
[06:27] <Fade> 6:27:xx
[06:27] <Fade> 18:27:xx
[06:27] <Kiongku> i played it... or rather plays a bit then got bored >>
[06:28] <Fade> options limited. living in paris, not many games have an english option. :)
[06:28] <Kiongku> a bon?.. bah dommage
[06:28] <alex_> hello everyone
[06:28] <alex_> does anyone know how I can edit grub?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> alex_,  edit the grubs menu.lst
[06:29] <alex_> I want to change the timeout
[06:29] <Kiongku> alex_: what for?
[06:29] <Fade> I believe most of the developers are emacs types.
[06:29] <Fade> <-- joke
[06:29] <amy__> Kiongku: lol. wow. even better than a real dog! =)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> alex_,  grub is very very well documneted on the internet.. and its home page has a very large manual. :)
[06:29] <Jucato> alex_: go to /boot/grub, right click on menu.lst > Actions > Edit as root
[06:29] <alex_> ok, thx
[06:29] <Kiongku> amy__: /me feel flattered /me wags tail /me sticks tongue out
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> of course what you are changing in menu.lst will be the fun part
[06:30] <Kiongku> the timeout in grub is the number of secs beofre it runs right?
[06:30] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: fun or hell... or both
[06:30] <alex_> Kiongku: no, I meant the timeout before loading the OS
[06:30] <alex_> I think right now it's 30 seconds or something
[06:30] <alex_> I want to change it to just 3
[06:30] <alex_> or something like that
[06:30] <Kiongku> alex_: oh ok mine is 10 secs
[06:31] <Fade> IMO, it's a bad move to answer a question about grub by giving the clickage from a to b, because on linux, the clickage isn't constant.
[06:31] <Fade> so it'd be better to give the commandline.
[06:31] <alex_> well I just edited it in vim
[06:31] <alex_> just the timeout line
[06:31] <alex_> I think it was easy
[06:31] <alex_> ;)
[06:32] <Kiongku> alex_: :]  go test.. ( '')
[06:32] <alex_> let's see what happens when I try to reboot
[06:32] <alex_> hehe
[06:32] <alex_> boom, crash, burn, smoke
[06:32] <Kiongku> just hope it does not really happen
[06:33] <alex_> hehe, with a dell laptop, maybe, but I have an Acer, so I think it's alright
[06:33] <harald> does anybody here have opengl support in kubuntu 6.04 with a geforce 7300LE card? :)
[06:33] <Kiongku> 6.04?
[06:33] <alex_> harald: with the binary drivers?
[06:34] <harald> what does binary drivers mean? I just installed the distro and nvidia drivers trough synaptic.
[06:34] <alex_> harald: ok, so you are all set then
[06:35] <harald> thought I was. :)
[06:35] <alex_> you can check using some command
[06:35] <harald> how?
[06:35] <alex_> if opengl acc is enabled
[06:35] <alex_> but I am not sure what it is for nvidia
[06:36] <OOD> run glxgears in terminal
[06:36] <harald> do I just type glxgears then?
[06:36] <OOD> yeah
[06:36] <harald> ok, will try. thanks
[06:36] <OOD> if you get the gears then everything should be fine
[06:37] <harald> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:37] <OOD> looks like you don't have it yet
[06:37] <OOD> how'd you get the driver working?
[06:37] <OOD> or what did you do to get this far
[06:38] <harald> nothing special. just installed nvidia drivers in synaptic.
[06:38] <Fade> incidentally, I have pretty much had it with ATI and their sekret hardware.
[06:38] <OOD> you still have to set your xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver
[06:39] <Fade> I have a perfectly fine radeon in my powerbook, but it's a powerpc, so no driver fo' you!
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> wait till ati and amd merge :)
[06:39] <harald> how do I set the xorg.conf?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[06:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:40] <OOD> do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable in terminal
[06:40] <Fade> I have hopes that amd will open them right up, but that's the kind of blind optimism that I'm told verges on gullability.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> who knows - in 5 years time the idea of a  seperate video card may be passe.
[06:40] <OOD> then just restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) and you should have it running
[06:40] <Fade> I seriously doubt that.
[06:41] <harald> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[06:41] <Fade> although I do have a standing prediction that we'll start to see asyncronous processor designs in the commodity market in six years.
[06:41] <harald> is that error supposed to come?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> in 5 years time  laptops could be using flash memory  instaed of hard drives. :)
[06:41] <Fade> uh-huh
[06:42] <OOD>  <Dr_Willis> they already are
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> im hearing 32gb usb sticks will be comming out in a few months.
[06:42] <gsuveg> Dr_Willis: are you dreaming ?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> gsuveg,  seen it mentioned on several tech web sites.
[06:43] <Fade> seeing as how we're talking out our asses, in five years time there will be a terrascale lisp machine in the form factor of a 17" powerbook. ;)
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/18/tdks-32gb-solid-state-disk-joins-the-party/
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> DK's unit connects to a standard IDE connector yet measures in at 80 percent the size of standard 2.5-inch laptop drive.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> dont even look at the price... lol :)
[06:44] <gsuveg> :)
[06:44] <Fade> solid state storage has been around for a long time.
[06:44] <Fade> the U.S. military uses it for various things, but it's absurdly expensive.
[06:45] <Fade> and magnetic domain media isn't exactly slowing down in it's rate of growth.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Samsung will early next month ship the first notebook PC and the first ultra-mobile PC fitted with 32GB of solid-state NAND Flash storage instead of a regular hard disk drive, the company announced today.
[06:45] <Fade> I'd rather have a 5TB hard-drive and a fuel-cell driven power supply in my laptop than a bunch of solid state memory.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> hmmm  that date is amuseing on that last url
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> 23rd May 2006 09:38 GMT
[06:50] <Pensacola> is there a quick guide to xgl on kubuntu?
[06:50] <OOD> Pensacola: http://www.compiz.net/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation
[06:51] <OOD> this package will automatically set it up for you, just make sure you have both quinn's and reggeaemanu's repos
[06:52] <Fade> I'd like a little GL love, too. :I
[06:53] <Pensacola> what's the link to these repositories?
[06:55] <OOD> here: http://www.compiz.net/forum-4-compiz-packages                they're the first and third stickies
[06:57] <jacques> I need to restore my old mount points from a different drive. How do I go about it?
[06:58] <Pensacola> anyway to undo it if it goes wrong?
[06:58] <Pensacola> any way... =)
[07:00] <OOD> yeah, you can simply remove the package with apt-get in the cli (CTRL+Alt+Backspace) if you don't get any gui
[07:02] <Pensacola> ok thx
[07:02] <Pensacola> will try
[07:09] <Bergie> i need help in restoring a backed up mount point without trashing my new installation
[07:12] <Nickste> the current version of hplip is a lot newer than the one installed on my machine, but in adept, it says it is installed, how do I get the latest version?
[07:18] <z1pp3r> In quake4 i cannot enable support for multiple cpu (I have a dualcore intel d805) even though 'uname -a' reports "2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP". What gives?
[07:25] <dusty_> Hey guys I run KDE, whenever i use a terminal inside of kde, and im typing away, say i hit delete all the way back to the command prompt, it starts beeping as it normally does, but kde messes it up and it repeats itself annoyingly.. also happens on other system sounds, it kinda lingers them out, and repeats them, and you can't seem to stop it, any ideas how to fix this?
[07:26] <z1pp3r> In quake4 i cannot enable support for multiple cpu (I have a dualcore intel d805) even though 'uname -a' reports "2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP". What is wrong? Is there any way to see if linux is actually recognizing both cores?
[07:26] <OOD> dusty_: you can turn the beeping off somewhere in one of the menus, then you have to save the changes you made
[07:27] <dusty_> No no, that doesn't solve the problem.
[07:27] <dusty_> I want the sounds to work properly.
[07:27] <binaryflow> How can I make sure that I am running the right kernel for a dual core laptop?
[07:27] <abattoir> dusty_: Settings->Bell->None, then Settings->Save as Default
[07:27] <dusty_> it messes up whatever sound it is APART from normal mp3s playing or streaming media -- if i play songs, and then a system sound occurs, it goes over top of the music etc..
[07:27] <binaryflow> Linux douglas-laptop 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 8 19:55:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:27] <dusty_> I don't want to switch the sounds off.
[07:28] <OOD> binaryflow: you're using the 386 kernel right?
[07:28] <binaryflow> Yes
[07:28] <OOD> it doesn't have multicore support, get the 686 kernel
[07:29] <binaryflow> Do I need to remove the 386 kernels?
[07:29] <OOD> also any restricted kernel module you have installed you'll have to reinstall
[07:29] <abattoir> dusty_: when you continuously keep pressing the backspace key(for eg.), more keystrokes are entered than the actual movement of the cursor, hence you hear the beep a lot of times( i guess this is what you mean?)
[07:29] <Mooneater> does anyone know how to change settings again so I can use my normal sings again, so the AT sign for " and the double dot for  ...
[07:29] <OOD> no, you can and should keep it, at least until everything works in the 686 one
[07:29] <reon> I thought the all the new kernels supportted SMP by default ???
[07:30] <dusty_> abattoir, Yes, but your not getting the jist of what i'm saying.. the sound basically f***'s up, as in, it distorts, repeats, etc (NOT just on the system bell in the terminal).
[07:30] <binaryflow> I assume I need to download the 686 source and headers also?
[07:31] <OOD> binaryflow: that's only if you compile any kernel modules yourself
[07:31] <shegman> what was the name of the kde program to resize the screen resolution?
[07:31] <abattoir> shegman: krandrtray
[07:31] <binaryflow> Or install programs from source
[07:31] <shegman> thx
[07:31] <binaryflow> Right?
[07:31] <abattoir> shegman: it goes into the system tray
[07:32] <shegman> i know. just forgot the name
[07:32] <OOD> binaryflow: no, that's only if you're compiling something for the kernel like a kernel module
[07:34] <OOD> dusty_: could be because kde uses a different sound driver, try changing to alsa or oss in sound settings
[07:38] <ante_> OK, anyone know how to get some sound working on Kubuntu?
[07:38] <reon> why ?
[07:39] <zorglu_> !anyone
[07:39] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:39] <ante_> Why? Because I think a silent computer is more boring.
[07:39] <abattoir> ante_: you dont get any sound at all, or is it mp3s that don't(seem) to work?
[07:39] <zorglu_> :)
[07:39] <ante_> Not any sound at all
[07:39] <abattoir> ante_: so its only mp3s ?
[07:39] <reon> ante_ how many sound devices do you have ?
[07:39] <abattoir> ante_: err... sorry
[07:40] <ante_> I have a VIA device on the motherboard, and a SoundBlaster Live. I get no sound from the latter.
[07:41] <reon> ante_ what happens if you pull out the SB
[07:41] <Bergie> i need help in restoring a backed up mount point without trashing my new installation
[07:41] <shegman> erm. i think i forgot something elemental. the monitor section of xorg.conf has screen resolution below 1024x786 but i cant use them with krandrtray
[07:41] <ante_> Eh... no idea. I'd rather not open up the computer. I think it's a software issue, but I don't know.
[07:42] <ante_> How should you do to get a SB to work in a computer with a built-in card. Is there some procedure I've missed?
[07:44] <photoguy> what is the command to untar i group of files?  sudo tar -xvzf.gz ??
[07:45] <zorglu_> tar xvzf yourfilename.tar.gz
[07:45] <zorglu_> !tar
[07:45] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> photoguy: tar -zxvf [filename] .tar.gz
[07:46] <photoguy> what if its a group of files you want to untar all at once?
[07:47] <zorglu_> use ark then :)
[07:47] <photoguy> i want to learn command line
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> ante_: given that the devs have seen fit to remove alsaconf and they are expecting autodetection to work, as far as I am aware your only course of action is to file a bug report
[07:47] <zorglu_> photoguy: ok so it is harder :) do 'man bash' and look at the command 'for'
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> photoguy: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[07:48] <SillyZ> afternoon yall
[07:48] <ante_> TheGateKeeper: Sounds drastic, but might have to do that then.
[07:49] <photoguy> thank you
[07:49] <ante_> Feels really silly since I had FreeBSD on this machine earlier and just inserted a kernelplugin and it worked....
[07:50] <ante_> Thanks
[07:52] <arcasa> Why on earth is my computer running at full 100% CPU? I'm not running anything!!!
[07:53] <dusty_> check top
[07:53] <arcasa> It's at a constant 100% and has been for 10 minutes.
[07:53] <arcasa> check top? (n00b.)
[07:53] <fdoving> hit ctrl+esc and check.
[07:54] <arcasa> WTF? I downloaded the Amarok - Kopete Music Message script thing and it's EATING my system!
[07:55] <arcasa> Anyone know a decent, non CPU-Killing way to get the whole "What I'm Listening To" thing to work?
[07:55] <fdoving> don't use that, so i can't help you there.
[07:56] <arcasa> Oh well... Thanks for saving my CPU from an early death. :)
[07:59] <maarten__> anyone knows something about aligning cartridges from an epson printer?
[08:00] <binaryflow> So this means that I am running both processors now?
[08:00] <binaryflow> Linux douglas-laptop 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 8 20:16:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:02] <fdoving> binaryflow: yes, the SMP part tells you. You can check /proc/cpuinfo for more info on the cpus.
[08:03] <TheGateKeeper> maarten__: http://www.linuxcommand.org/man_pages/escputil1.html
[08:04] <Bergie> i need help in restoring a backed up mount point without trashing my new installation
[08:06] <judaz> hellpo
[08:06] <judaz> hellp
[08:06] <judaz> hello
[08:06] <judaz> damned.. my keybord
[08:07] <judaz> i need help!.. i don't know how to change settings for the different Userss on my Desktop... I want to change their privileges...
[08:07] <judaz> i know how to in gnome.. but not kde
[08:08] <fdoving> judaz: kmenu -> system settings -> user management
[08:09] <maarten__>  gatekeeper: When i do sudo escputil -a -m escp2-dx4800 i get cannot open(null) read/write :bad adress
[08:09] <judaz> fdoving: yes.. but there's no part for the privileges changes
[08:09] <fdoving> judaz: what privileges do you have in mind?
[08:10] <judaz> fdoving: i dont want them to use SUDO, and for some reason in those users doesnt work the sound
[08:11] <octan> any of you running amd64, kde, xgl, compiz & kxdocker and has it working?
[08:11] <octan> i got stupid bug with kxdocker
[08:11] <octan> http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/screenshot/kxdocker-bug1.png
[08:11] <octan> help pls
[08:12] <judaz> fdoving: any idea?
[08:13] <steveire> http://pythonide.stani.be/blog <<< This site instructs that I have pythonX.X-dev installed. I have python2.4-dev installed. Am I good to go?
[08:14] <shegman> howto change screen resolution?
[08:15] <fdoving> judaz: add them to the 'audio' group, and remove then from the 'admin' group.
[08:15] <Sanne> steveire: hey, spe is in the ubuntu repositories, in case you didn't know.
[08:16] <Mooneater> how do I set my signs right? now I've got = for the ? sign...
[08:18] <ubuntu__> omg, failed making dualboot and now using live cd ><
[08:18] <fdoving> !grub
[08:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:18] <fdoving> ubuntu__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is for you.
[08:19] <judaz> fdoving: THANX!; I Own you one
[08:19] <klerfayt> do I navigate to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+bugs before reporting a bug that occured in dapper?
[08:19] <fdoving> judaz: you're welcome :)
[08:19] <steveire> so it is. Thanks Sanne
[08:20] <judaz> fdoving: ill ask you one more thing
[08:20] <fdoving> judaz: sure.
[08:20] <judaz> fdoving: how can i make de icons of the tray to be shown en 2 rows ?
[08:21] <fdoving> klerfayt: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs - search for bugs similar to yours, if you can't find any, file a new.
[08:21] <maarten__>  escputil -iur /dev/usb/lp0
[08:21] <fdoving> judaz: adjust the panel size.
[08:21] <klerfayt> fdoving: I mean then reporting a bug there seems to be no way to indicate what version of ubuntu I'm using
[08:22] <judaz> fdoving: ?
[08:22] <fdoving> klerfayt: you'll have to write that as a part of the report. the bug won't be fixed in dapper unless it's very very important. It will only apply to new versions.
[08:23] <judaz> fdoving: THANX AGAIN!
[08:23] <fdoving> judaz: you're welcome :)
[08:23] <fdoving> .. again
[08:23] <fdoving> :)
[08:23] <klerfayt> judaz: one way to do it is to increase the size of panel
[08:23] <grisutheguru> ahoi
[08:24] <JohnFlux> I'm installed kubuntu
[08:24] <Eeyore_Jr> hi, has anyone tried to get dapper on vmplayer ?
[08:24] <JohnFlux> and at the part where it resizes the partition
[08:24] <JohnFlux> any idea how long that should take?
[08:24] <JohnFlux> it's been going 7 hours now
[08:24] <JohnFlux> for a 40GB drive
[08:24] <Eeyore_Jr> that seems long
[08:25] <JohnFlux> it just displays the busy symbol
[08:25] <Skrot> Hi. Is there a program to create flash animations and such in linux/kde?
[08:25] <Sanne> steveire: to answer your original question, I would say python2.4-dev should be correct for something needing the python development headers.
[08:27] <fdoving> Skrot: not that i'm aware of, though it could exist.. i'm no fan of flash.
[08:28] <steveire> looks like it Sanne. Do you use spe? Can I ask a quick question?
[08:28] <Skrot> Me either.. but I'm using it in a class at school
[08:28] <Pensacola> xgl looks great, but it messes up my gfx drivers :s
[08:29] <Sanne> Skrot: not really. There are some projects in the works, but nothing I know of that is in a production ready state. You can, however, script flash animations and actionscript with ming in php, c++ or python (at least). ming.sourceforge.net
[08:29] <steveire> Id like if I type os.getcwd( that a ) be put in after the cursor position, like I can make Kate do.
[08:29] <Skrot> Sanne: thanks
[08:30] <Sanne> Skrot: this is also informative: http://www.osflash.org/
[08:30] <Skrot> nice
[08:30] <Sanne> steveire: I don't use spe, sorry, just heard about it as a python editor especially for blender.
[08:30] <skryking> Skrot: a combo of blender and ffmpeg can make flash files pretty easily
[08:31] <Sanne> skryking: really? also interactive animations, or more like self running movies?
[08:32] <skryking> Sanne: self running movies...
[08:33] <Sanne> skryking: still nice, I should hunt the topic down in the blenderartists forum (or do you happen to have a link to some more info?)
[08:35] <skryking> Sanne: pretty easy to do, just export your render to frames and then run ffmpeg -i %04d.jpg ../whatever.swf
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[08:36] <Sanne> skryking: ah, yeah, I remember people talking about it... will try, thanks a lot :)
[08:36] <visita> My english is not the best because I was born in Chile. Hi
[08:38] <Sanne> anyway, gotta go cook dinner, bye all
[08:38] <zorglu_> visita: there is some spanish channel if you feel more confortable
[08:38] <zorglu_> !es
[08:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:38] <visita> thanks
[08:39] <visita> but I like to stand here sometimes because I can to remember my english.
[08:39] <zorglu_> cool :)
[08:41] <maddoxeric> i can't get my sound working today, it worked fine before
[08:41] <maddoxeric> anyone know what might be going on?
[08:41] <maddoxeric> kmix doesn't see anything
[08:41] <zorglu_> looked at what you changed between the two
[08:42] <maarten__> #cups
[08:42] <visita> Bye, I will go to another place with my wife. After we talk
[08:43] <maddoxeric> would messing with user and group setting cause the sound to screw up?
[08:43] <fdoving> maddoxeric: if you removed yourself from the audio group, yes.
[08:44] <zorglu_> type 'groups' in a terminal to see if audio appears
[08:45] <maddoxeric> fdoving: ok, i don't think so but i will check
[08:45] <fdoving> maddoxeric: you can check that with the 'id' command in console.
[08:45] <maddoxeric> when i types groups i only got www-data and wwwadmin
[08:46] <fdoving> that would explain alot,
[08:46] <maddoxeric> yeah
[08:46] <maddoxeric> i am about to get screwed
[08:46] <maddoxeric> but anyway
[08:47] <maddoxeric> what do i do to get he sound working for now
[08:47] <fdoving> add yourself to the audiogroup.
[08:47] <maddoxeric> ok cool
[08:47] <maddoxeric> thanks
[08:47] <maddoxeric> do i need to add the root
[08:47] <maddoxeric> are is that stupid
[08:48] <fdoving> hm?
[08:48] <fdoving> add your user to the audio group. root doesn't need other groups than root.
[08:48] <maddoxeric> cool, slowly but surely i will get this stuff
[08:49] <maddoxeric> thanks a lot
[08:49] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[08:49] <maddoxeric> brb
[08:57] <aim1159> anybody with tcl/tk knoledge?
[09:01] <|lostbyte|> Hi..
[09:01] <Emperor_Norton> I'm trying to install lib mtp
[09:01] <Emperor_Norton> and it wont work
[09:06] <alex_yo> can i remove one of the kernel ?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23905
[09:07] <fdoving> alex_yo: sure,if you don't use it.
[09:07] <MitchM> How do I update my ATi drivers?
[09:07] <fdoving> !ati
[09:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <MitchM> Thanks =)
[09:08] <alex_yo> sory here is the list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23906
[09:09] <alex_yo> wich i have to remove? because i have mke a update with there was installed a new kernel!
[09:10] <zorglu_> fdoving: i think this page should point on the dri.sf.net too, recently i installed kubuntu on a box with a ati 340m igp. it is no more supported by the ati.com driver but dri.sf.net support them.
[09:10] <zorglu_> i even found a guy with a same card saying he was blocked on vesa for 3month
[09:10] <MitchM> !PRINTER
[09:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> !games
[09:10] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:11] <fdoving> zorglu_: you can edit the wiki, can't you?
[09:12] <fdoving> alex_yo: you can remove the kernel headers if you don't use them to compile drivers.
[09:12] <ConsoleFx> i am facing a problem when accessing to internet with my device :(
[09:13] <zorglu_> fdoving: never tried in fact :)
[09:13] <zorglu_> hmm nope it require registration :)
[09:13] <zorglu_> ok this is lazy
[09:13] <ConsoleFx> when i am conencting my mobile phone with my usb then the mobile is getting switched off automatically :( .. plz help me
[09:13] <ConsoleFx> i am not able to connect from kubuntu
[09:13] <ConsoleFx> why this is happening ???
[09:14] <ConsoleFx> plz help
[09:14] <fdoving> zorglu_: ok, what do you want me to change/add? could you make a pastebin or something? i'm lazy too :)
[09:14] <zorglu_> somebody to do something in which i could contribute without being spammed and having to remember 10000 password ? :)
[09:14] <fdoving> zorglu_: or even better, register and go edit the wiki :)
[09:14] <zorglu_> fdoving: ok i will do the second, it is more long term :)
[09:15] <fdoving> zorglu_: kwalletmanager, you don't get spam from registering with ubuntu.
[09:16] <Emperor_Norton> is orphan in the reops?
[09:16] <Emperor_Norton> *repos
[09:16] <fdoving> Emperor_Norton: orphan?
[09:16] <fdoving> deborphan?
[09:16] <Emperor_Norton> orphaner
[09:16] <fdoving> !info deborphan
[09:16] <ubotu> deborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB
[09:16] <Emperor_Norton> even
[09:16] <klerfayt> is there anything user can do to speed up bugfix release?
[09:17] <Emperor_Norton> !info deborphaner
[09:17] <ubotu> Package deborphaner does not exist in any distro I know
[09:17] <Emperor_Norton> !info orphaner
[09:17] <ubotu> Package orphaner does not exist in any distro I know
[09:18] <fdoving> klerfayt: join #ubuntu-bugs and ask how you can help :)
[09:18] <toby> Hey all
[09:18] <toby> just thought I would stop in and say hi
[09:19] <toby> do you kubuntu?
[09:19] <klerfayt> fdoving: I mean if user is annoyed by bug x there is nothing else left to do than wait if bug report is already created?
[09:19] <toby> hehehe
[09:20] <fdoving> klerfayt: you can add comments on the bug, and then join #ubuntu-bugs and ask how you can help.
[09:20] <Alextremo> #codigolibre
[09:23] <klerfayt> fdoving: ok. let's bugfix has been created. how many days it takes to get it to users?
[09:25] <fdoving> klerfayt: depends if the bug is important enought to get into dapper-updates. if not you won't see the fix until the release of the next ubuntu version.
[09:29] <klerfayt> fdoving: heh I don't get it what could possibly be bad about applying "not so important "bugfixes" ?
[09:33] <klerfayt> is spelling mistake in help documentation important enough to release update or we have to wait 6 months and do full upgrade? :)
[09:33] <fdoving> klerfayt: it's alot of work, and ubuntu have short release intervals, so the manpower is focused on the next release. only important updates, and security updates are accepted. and of course backports for those who enable that repository.
[09:35] <vhogemann> Hello, how do I setup X on my Laptop, so it can change the monitor output from Mirror to Dual Screen using i810switch without having to change my X.org config file? My video chipset is i915G... thanks
[09:35] <vhogemann> does X.org support this at all?
[09:36] <ConsoleFx> when i am conencting my mobile phone with my laptopn in usb then the mobile is getting switched off automatically :( .. plz help me
[09:36] <ConsoleFx> i am unable to connect to internet .. plz help to solve this prob... plz
[09:37] <insparedes> !es
[09:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:38] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, OMG you want to connect a mobile phone
[09:38] <ConsoleFx> nope...
[09:38] <ConsoleFx> i mean
[09:38] <ConsoleFx> i connect to internet using my mobile phone
[09:38] <ConsoleFx> via usb
[09:39] <NthDegree> well if you are good at kernel hacking you might be able to :)
[09:39] <ConsoleFx> so when i am starting kubuntu and conenct the cell with my lap via usb then the mobile is switched off automatically...
[09:39] <ConsoleFx> what is the prob.... plz do help
[09:39] <ConsoleFx> it will help me a lot..
[09:39] <NthDegree> the fact you are using a mobile to connect to the internet
[09:40] <ConsoleFx> yep NthDegree
[09:40] <ConsoleFx> i am in win box now... so i am missing my kubuntu a lot for internet :(
[09:41] <ConsoleFx> i hope u will help me
[09:41] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, uhh it's non-standard to do this but why not network the PCs
[09:41] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: does internet via mobile work with windows?
[09:41] <ConsoleFx> i cant get that why the cell is getting switched off automatically... this is not happenning in win box
[09:41] <ConsoleFx> yep
[09:41] <ConsoleFx> i am in win now :(
[09:41] <fdoving> oh.. what phone? and how do you do it in kubuntu?
[09:42] <NthDegree> fdoving: it's one of those useless Nokia phone apps I suspect
[09:42] <fdoving> i use a nokia 5500 and bluetooth from the pc, sometimes.
[09:42] <ConsoleFx> nope
[09:42] <ConsoleFx> its a samsung n191
[09:42] <NthDegree> uh ConsoleFx, tbh you should get a proper internet
[09:43] <ConsoleFx> there is a shell program so i can install the driver in kubuntu... but the cell must me on before that....
[09:43] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, if there's a linux driver for it then go install it
[09:43] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: hmm.. it's hard to help you, as i don't have the phone to test..
[09:44] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, but if you are asking to install a Windows driver into Linux then that's not really possible
[09:44] <Bokonon> Hi, i've installed kubuntu and am trying to get my adsl-modem to work- but when i try to ./configure it, gives me an error saying that it cant find the C compiler in $path
[09:44] <NthDegree> Bokonon, sudo apt-get build-essential
[09:44] <fdoving> NthDegree: might be hard if the modem doesn't work? :)
[09:44] <Bokonon> ok, NthDegree- do i need to down'load anything or can it be done off the CD?
[09:44] <fdoving> Bokonon: what modem?
[09:44] <ConsoleFx> NthDegree this is the shell prog where the driver exists...
[09:44] <ConsoleFx> http://www.reliancecommunications.co.in/Communications/Rconnect/rconnect_dc_linux.html
[09:44] <Bokonon> eagle-usb
[09:45] <alex_> hello
[09:45] <alex_> i have problems with a winmodem
[09:45] <ConsoleFx> i have the driver but if the cell with b offf then what i will do :( :(
[09:45] <Bokonon> its alreqady supported (with a kernel driver) but am trying to use the developr version
[09:45] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, have you followed the instructions on that page
[09:45] <ConsoleFx> yep..
[09:45] <ConsoleFx> NthDegree ya
[09:45] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, drivers can be instaleld without the phone being on
[09:45] <NthDegree> installed*
[09:46] <Bokonon> anywhos, will check in a bit if it works, thanks, NthDegree- and the rest :D
[09:46] <NthDegree> This is a beta release of the Reliance Netconnect driver for Linux OS Red Hat Version 8.0 and is available to the user on an "as-is-where-is? basis. This driver is unsupported and is provided to the Linux user community as a courtesy. Reliance does not provide any support or warranty for this driver and will not undertake any liability for use of this software.
[09:46] <ConsoleFx> its written that u connect ur cell via te data cable....
[09:46] <NthDegree> yes
[09:46] <ConsoleFx> so when i am connecting then the cell is getting switched off :o :o
[09:47] <NthDegree> but devices don't have to be on to be detected
[09:47] <NthDegree> they only need power going to them but don't need to be switched on
[09:48] <ConsoleFx> NthDegree ok i am agree with u for this point but let me tell u one thing
[09:49] <ConsoleFx> i have dual boot enabled.. and before booting i am connecting the cell with my lap with the usb and then starting my kubuntu box...
[09:49] <ConsoleFx> and after that when it boots then cell gets off....
[09:49] <ConsoleFx> this is making me shocked sir :(
[09:50] <ConsoleFx> i hope u got me this time well
[09:50] <NthDegree> ?
[09:50] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, you should be able to tell if your cell is being properly detected by looking at the messages log file "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[09:51] <javart> exit
[09:51] <javart> sorry
[09:51] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, issue that command, then plug your cellphone
[09:51] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, it should be detected as an USB -> Serial adapter
[09:51] <ConsoleFx> vhogemann when???  at my konsole??
[09:51] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, yes... at konsole
[09:52] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, but before you plug your cellphone
[09:52] <ConsoleFx> u mean i will issue this at my shell before plugging the cell right??
[09:52] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: did you try to follow this: http://puggy.symonds.net/~rkrishnan/ril-howto.html ? much of what is true for debian is also true on kubuntu.
[09:52] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, right
[09:53] <ConsoleFx> okie.... then let me try...
[09:53] <NthDegree> i got lagged :(
[09:53] <NthDegree> STUPID FREENODE :@
[09:53] <karim_> I can't open .mpgs and mpegs with kaffeine player how can III ???
[09:53] <NthDegree> I mean nice freenode just DONT LAG
[09:53] <ConsoleFx> if it will help me then i will dance with joy :p
[09:53] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, if everything goes ok it should be detected as an USBSerial device... and appear as /dev/ttyUSB0 or USB1, 2, etc...
[09:54] <ConsoleFx> i think it may be ttyUSB2 coz in win its com3... so will it be ttyUSB2??
[09:55] <ConsoleFx> i am sorry if i asked a bogus qstn...
[09:55] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, ehehehhe, np
[09:55] <NthDegree> in windows COM 3/4 is a simulation for any USB port that contains a modem
[09:56] <ConsoleFx> NthDegree oo i c
[09:56] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, after pluggin it, you can also issue an "lsusb" command to list all plugged USB devices
[09:56] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[09:56] <karim_> Neooo r u there??
[09:56] <ConsoleFx> let me try then...
[09:56] <vhogemann> ConsoleFx, most cellphone cables are actually USBSerial adapters in disguise
[09:57] <karim_>  I can't open .mpgs , .mp3s and mpegs with kubunto player??
[09:57] <frojnd> calc kmplayer codecs
[09:57] <frojnd> !kmplayer codecs
[09:57] <ubotu> kmplayer: media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1.99+0.9.2-rc1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 161 kB, installed size 524 kB
[09:57] <NthDegree> karim, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:58] <frojnd> how can I install codecs for kmplayer
[09:58] <NthDegree> fronjd read my last bit
[09:58] <Skrot> !codecs
[09:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:58] <ConsoleFx> fdoving thnx for this link http://puggy.symonds.net/~rkrishnan/ril-howto.html
[09:58] <ConsoleFx> let me reboot
[09:59] <frojnd> :s dont have libxine-extracodecs
[09:59] <brunno> .
[10:00] <da1l6> frojnd:  libxine-extracodecs is in the multiverse repo
[10:00] <frojnd> where can I enable multiverse
[10:01] <LeeJunFan> !repos
[10:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:01] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: take a look at the link ubotu just posted.
[10:01] <frojnd> k
[10:09] <MitchM> how do I also install gnome on my Kde desktop?
[10:09] <alberto> installing kububtu ;-)
[10:09] <MitchM> ?/
[10:09] <alberto> for kde
[10:10] <alberto> ububtru for gnome
[10:10] <MitchM> What's the easiest way to install Gnome on-top-of KDE?
[10:10] <Tm_T> MitchM: you can't install it "on top" but "side by side"
[10:10] <MitchM> what i meant. =)
[10:10] <Tm_T> MitchM: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[10:10] <MitchM> graciras.
[10:10] <Tm_T> np
[10:10] <MitchM> gracias
[10:10] <NthDegree> MitchM, why would ya want to?
[10:11] <alberto> agree
[10:11] <hoody> hi there
[10:11] <NthDegree> hi :)
[10:12] <Creedence> hey everyone
[10:12] <frojnd> LeeJunFan: when I try to install it: libxine-extracodecs: dependent from: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it can't be installed
[10:12] <alberto> is a matter of preference, KDE or Gnome they work both fine, simly choose the one you like
[10:12] <amalsek> maybe using "gnome-desktop-environment" instead of "ubuntu-desktop" if you only want gnome and its core apps
[10:12] <MitchM> how do i install KDE along side of gnome?
[10:12] <hoody> got a problem with java ... i can't find the runtime environment in adept.... can anybody help
[10:12] <hoody> ?
[10:13] <MitchM> curiosity.
[10:13] <MitchM> I done like gnome.
[10:13] <MitchM> but a friend wants to install both...
[10:13] <amalsek>   with "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:13] <mad_man> MitchM: try sudo apt-get KDE-Desktop
[10:13] <MitchM> affirm. thx.
[10:14] <MilanZR> hey ppl,i'm new in world of linux :) so I need help,how i can istal some prog. in tar.gz extract
[10:14] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: sounds like your /etc/apt/source.list file isn't quite right. can you pastebin it?
[10:14] <amalsek> hoody => which one ? Sun's ?
[10:14] <Creedence> hey.. do any of you know of a good small business GPL app?
[10:14] <hoody> yes
[10:14] <MitchM> leejunfan tar -zxf <filename>
[10:15] <MilanZR> is that for me? MitchM
[10:15] <MilanZR> no sorry
[10:15] <MitchM> oh; yes it is.
[10:15] <MilanZR> :)
[10:15] <amalsek> need to add multiverse in your /etc/apt/source.list
[10:15] <MilanZR> yes sure :D
[10:15] <MitchM> tar -zxf <filename>
[10:15] <Brunno> Hey... I'm getting a audio/video delay on youtube...... can anyone help me ?
[10:15] <frojnd> I tryed to install libxine-extracodecs but it's tome kind of error message: libxine-extracodecs: dependent from: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it can't be installed  (how can I install those codecs?)
[10:16] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:16] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: libmad0 should be available - it's in main repository.
[10:16] <sybux> Hi, I'm looking for xmodmap.ch_fr but I can't find it. any1 know which package I need ?
[10:17] <hoody> amalsek : where do i get multiverse?
[10:17] <Kr4t05> !universe > hoody
[10:17] <Brunno> I'm getting a audio/video delay on youtube...... can anyone help me ?
[10:19] <frojnd> LeeJunFan where can I paste bin sources.list, it't not that small
[10:20] <hoody> amalsek: yes
[10:20] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org              - it's in the topic
[10:21] <Kr4t05> hrm...
[10:21] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to burn a cue/bin disc image with K3b and it returns an odd error.
[10:23] <NthDegree> uh Kr4t05, check it really is a BIN image
[10:23] <NthDegree> and avoid using the provided cuesheet
[10:23] <NthDegree> then if ya still get an error try a RAW burn
[10:23] <Kr4t05> NthDegree: How would I go about checking that?
[10:23] <frojnd> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23914
[10:24] <Kr4t05> Bah...
[10:24] <NthDegree> well what are you selecting when you go to burn?
[10:24] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: yeah, I see it. Your main is commented out as well.
[10:24] <Kr4t05> NthDegree: Auto
[10:24] <NthDegree> the cuesheet or the BIN image?
[10:24] <Kr4t05> The cue
[10:24] <NthDegree> try selecting the BIN
[10:24] <NthDegree> and move the cue somewhere else
[10:25] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: you want to uncomment line 3 which as main and restricted, and also your security updates and dapper-updates towards the bottom.
[10:25] <NthDegree> then select RAW as opposed to TAO or DAO
[10:25] <sybux> Hi, I'm looking for xmodmap.ch_fr but I can't find it. any1 know which package I need ?
[10:26] <Kr4t05> NthDegree: When I select the Bin without a usable cuesheet present, it says "Seems not to be a useable image"
[10:26] <Tm_T> sybux: packages.ubuntu.com can't find it?
[10:27] <frojnd> LeeJunFan: 003 # deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted  this line?
[10:27] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: yeah, your file should look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23916
[10:27] <sybux> Tm_T: I've run apt-get install xmodmap and it's installed but I don't have definitions for keyboard
[10:27] <frojnd> and after that I can install codecs
[10:27] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: I'm guessing networking didn't get setup during install.
[10:28] <NthDegree> Kr4t05, maybe it isn't a usable image
[10:28] <Tm_T> sybux: hmm, then I don't know, sorry
[10:28] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: yes, you'll have to either run sudo apt-get update or use adept and update repositories.
[10:28] <NthDegree> the cuesheet just tells it to access the image
[10:28] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: then you can install the libxine-extracodec
[10:28] <LeeJunFan> libxine-extracodecs
[10:29] <frojnd> let's see
[10:29] <tekeo__> hello I got a problem with my dual boot grub is installed on the mbr of hda1 and windows boot is installed on the mbr of sda2. Everything works fine exept when I try to boot windows from grub... it says the file NTDLR is missing. I had this problem a few weeks ago with gentoo but didn't care to solve it at that time. Any ideas?
[10:30] <arcasa> Does anyone here know how to setup a MSN Messenger Music Plugin thing on Kopete and Amarok?
[10:30] <kalagaraz> How do I install 32 bit apps on 64bit kubuntu?
[10:30] <zorglu_> arcasa: what MSN Messenger Music Plugin does ?
[10:30] <tekeo__> also if I change the boot priority in the bios to boot sda2 first windows will run without any problem
[10:31] <zorglu_> kalagaraz: yes but with special care
[10:31] <arcasa> It puts what song is playing on your system into your Personal Message thing.
[10:31] <kalagaraz> How do I do it?
[10:31] <frojnd> leeJunFan, are libxine-extracodecs also for amarok to read .mp3 formats?
[10:31] <arcasa> It's cool... I can't get it working though.
[10:31] <LeeJunFan> !chroot > kalagaraz
[10:32] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: yes
[10:32] <kalagaraz> Ahh I tried using that guide before I think and got errors
[10:32] <frojnd> nice :)
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> arcasa, the only one i know of in konversation that does that
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> but then again, thats not MSN
[10:32] <frojnd> tnx LeeJunFan
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> arcasa, gaim?
[10:32] <LeeJunFan> frojnd: your welcome.
[10:32] <arcasa> I use Kopete.
[10:33] <tekeo__> hello I got a problem with my dual boot grub is installed on the mbr of hda1 and windows boot is installed on the mbr of sda2. Everything works fine exept when I try to boot windows from grub... it says the file NTDLR is missing. If I change the boot priority in bios it will load windows without any problems (exept it's windows :P). Any ideas how to fix this???
[10:34] <tekeo__> sorry sdb1
[10:34] <fdoving> !grub
[10:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:34] <zorglu_> arcasa: people on #kopete may provide more info about this
[10:36] <red_> where do i get ati drivers
[10:36] <LeeJunFan> !ati
[10:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:37] <tekeo__> hello I got a problem with my dual boot grub is installed on the mbr of hda1 and windows boot is installed on the mbr of sdb1. Everything works fine exept when I try to boot windows from grub... it says the file NTDLR is missing. If I change the boot priority in bios it will load windows without any problems (exept it's windows :P). Any ideas how to fix this???
[10:37] <zorglu_> tekeo__: it is a matter of where the boot is installed
[10:37] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: tell tekeo__ about grub
[10:38] <kalagaraz> Leejun, do I want to install debootstrap to build packages? (says to add --variant=buildd)
[10:38] <zorglu_> tekeo__: i *think* without being sure that it should be install on the root one aka directly in /dev/hda and not had1
[10:38] <LeeJunFan> long form doesn't work any more with ubotu ?
[10:38] <zorglu_> hda1
[10:38] <LeeJunFan> !grub > tekeo__
[10:39] <LeeJunFan> sry if you got that twice.
[10:39] <LeeJunFan> I'm not getting any response from ubotu
[10:39] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: out of curiosity why do you send those message directly to the user and not on the channle ?
[10:39] <LeeJunFan> fdoving sent them to the channel and he apparently wasn't paying attention.
[10:40] <zorglu_> ah ok :)
[10:40] <kalagaraz>  sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 dapper /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[10:40] <kalagaraz> is that correct?
[10:40] <LeeJunFan> kalagaraz: you don't need --variant=buildd if you aren't going to compile from within the chroot.
[10:41] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: personnaly i prefere to send them on the channel too, thus it educates the other people on the channel at the same time. thus they may learn stuff which may be usefull for them later
[10:41] <kalagaraz> I just want to install 32 bit stuff, so leave that off?
[10:41] <LeeJunFan> zorglu_: I agree
[10:41] <LeeJunFan> kalagaraz: yeah.
[10:41] <LeeJunFan> kalagaraz: if you need to you can always install a compiler later.
[10:41] <jacob_> W00T
[10:42] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: cool
[10:44] <pierreth> hello, i am not able to play avi files
[10:44] <LeeJunFan> !codecs
[10:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:45] <LeeJunFan> pierreth: follow those ^^
[10:45] <pierreth> ubotu: yes, I know that
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes, I know that - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <pierreth> But I think I have an error with w32
[10:46] <pierreth> I think I have an error with my install
[10:46] <pierreth> I will paste bin, can someone may a check
[10:47] <LeeJunFan> pierreth: yeah.
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, amd64?
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, past it
[10:48] <phreakysz> hi
[10:48] <pierreth> here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23918
[10:48] <red_> is anyone else having a problem with their notebook going into standby when the lid is closed
[10:48] <pierreth> no, I have a Pentium III
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> red_, thats a new feature...
[10:49] <Assassin5> someone remind me.... how do you change the desktop icon, text colour?
[10:49] <red_> ok, i know it works fine with ubuntu, but kubuntu im having a problem
[10:49] <red_> ill mess around with it and see what i can figure out
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, its already installed
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> red_, #ubuntu=1
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: But I cannot see my .avi files
[10:50] <phreakysz> im trying to use a new dsdt for my acer aspire 1692. Dl'ed a custom dsdt, made an initrd of it in /boot, and changed grub entry to use the new initrd. It hangs now on initializing the acpi module! ;(
[10:50] <frojnd> I have problem with extracting rar files: It says: the utility unrar is not in your PATH. Please install it or contact your system administrator. I've installed it and it says the same santacne. Can soemone help me with this one.
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> they know a lot more than i do
[10:50] <phreakysz> what did I do wrong?
[10:50] <Hawkwind> frojnd: How did you install it ?
[10:50] <frojnd> sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, what are you using to play the avis?
[10:51] <Hawkwind> frojnd: What command are you using to extract the files ?
[10:51] <frojnd> nothing
[10:51] <frojnd> I click it
[10:51] <frojnd> in konqueror
[10:51] <frojnd> and then ark opens
[10:51] <frojnd> and than this note..
[10:51] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: Kaffeine
[10:51] <Hawkwind> frojnd: In a terminal type:  which unrar
[10:51] <kalagaraz> sudo sed -i s/dapper/breezy/g /var/chroot/etc/apt/sources.list         Am I suppose to chose one of those (dapper or breezy) and delete other from that command?
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> try using vlc.
[10:51] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: I will pastebin the error
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:52] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: OK I will try now
[10:52] <Kr4t05> I have a karamba running that's reporting 979/1012MB RAM usage...
[10:52] <frojnd> Hawkwind I typed which unrar
[10:52] <Kr4t05> Is that normal?
[10:52] <Hawkwind> frojnd: What was the output ?
[10:53] <fdoving> kalagaraz:  s/dapper/breezy/ will replace all instances of dapper with breezy.. is that what you want?
[10:53] <LeeJunFan> Kr4t05: Maybe for windows vista.
[10:53] <Kr4t05> LeeJunFan: Funny, but that doesn't help.
[10:53] <LeeJunFan> Kr4t05: that's a lot of RAM use, open a konsole and start top then hit M
[10:53] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: What else do you have running ?
[10:53] <frojnd> Hawkwind don't know :S when I typed nothing happened
[10:53] <dan___> hey
[10:53] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Remember, linux handles ram completely opposite of how Windows does
[10:53] <dan___> my taskbar dissapeared all of a sudden
[10:53] <Hawkwind> frojnd: sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:53] <dan___> how do i get it back
[10:53] <Hawkwind> frojnd: Try that
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> dan___, start kicker
[10:54] <tc_> alguien habla espaol
[10:54] <Hawkwind> dan___: You mean the bar at the bottom of the screen ?
[10:54] <fdoving> dan___: try alt+f2 and run ' dcop kicker kicker restart'
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> tc_, use this
[10:54] <dan___> yes
[10:54] <Hawkwind> dan___: If so, in a terminal type: kicker
[10:54] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Just Kopete and Konversation.
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[10:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:54] <kalagaraz> fdoving I'm trying to setup bootstrap or whatever to install 32 bit apps
[10:54] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: How long has your system been running since the last reboot ?
[10:54] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: I am installing
[10:54] <kalagaraz> I'm following guide, and I have no idea what these commands do :)
[10:54] <frojnd> Hawkwind: now works fine :) tnx
[10:54] <Kr4t05> LeeJunFan: Mem:   1036096k total,  1000356k used,    35740k free,     9148k buffers
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, okay, i run vlc and read avis just fino
[10:55] <kalagaraz> I followed the guide up to apt-get install while in chroot and I get this:
[10:55] <kalagaraz> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:55] <LeeJunFan> Kr4t05: if you run top and hit M [capital]  then the application listed at the top is using the most ram.
[10:55] <dan___> yeah still not working
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> kalagaraz, use a different mirror
[10:55] <kalagaraz> how I do that?
[10:55] <Kr4t05> LeeJunFan: Xorg is at the top with 3.8%
[10:55] <kalagaraz> If guide doesn't say it, i'm lost :)
[10:55] <fdoving> kalagaraz: change breezy to dapper in sources.list 3.5.4 isn't buildt for breezy.
[10:55] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: You're running breezy ?
[10:56] <kalagaraz> i'm running dapper
[10:56] <octan> where can i find xwinwrap?
[10:56] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: Then listen to what fdoving just said please
[10:56] <dan___> that bar is still gone hawkwind
[10:56] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: it works with VLC
[10:56] <octan> !xwinwrap
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, good
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i like vlc a lot more than Kaffine
[10:56] <Hawkwind> dan___: killall kicker && kicker
[10:56] <kalagaraz> ugh crashed
[10:56] <Hawkwind> dan___: Type that into a terminal
[10:57] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: I think Kaffeine is too slow, could you check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23919
[10:57] <dan___> nope
[10:57] <kalagaraz> someone send me that bot command for how to do 32bit on 64
[10:57] <dan___> didnt work man
[10:57] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good afternoon
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> sure
[10:57] <kalagaraz> I don't remember link for guide
[10:57] <Hawkwind> dan___: Pastebin the output of: ps aux | grep kicker
[10:57] <fdoving> !chroot
[10:57] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:57] <Hawkwind> dan___: Put that into http://pastebin.ulteo.us and give me the resulting URL
[10:58] <kalagaraz> thanks
[10:58] <fdoving> the wiki is sooo slow.
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, how are you starting it?
[10:58] <LeeJunFan> Kr4t05: run 'free' it will tell you what's free +/- buffers. It's probably just buffer using all your ram which is normal.
[10:58] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: What do you mean?
[10:58] <kalagaraz> anyways that guide tells me to do s/dapper/breezy/g  I guess thats why it's downloading breezy stuff
[10:58] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: How long has your system been running since the last reboot ?
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> this is konsole output right?
[10:59] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: By double click
[10:59] <kalagaraz> sudo sed -i s/dapper/breezy/g /var/chroot/etc/apt/sources.list #point apt-get to the right release
[10:59] <dan___> i got it to work
[10:59] <dan___> thanx
[10:59] <arcasa> OK well I'v borked up Kopete. Now I need to reinstall it. How?
[10:59] <fdoving> kalagaraz: that's if you run breezy. you don't so ignore it.
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, what is starting
[10:59] <Hawkwind> arcasa: How is it broken exactly ?
[10:59] <kalagaraz> ok how I undo it, cause I already did it :)
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> and when are you getting this output
[11:00] <arcasa> When I launch it, It freezes and remains black.
[11:00] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: Kaffeine
[11:00] <Hawkwind> arcasa: Try removing the config file
[11:00] <arcasa> Then I get something pop up and ask me to either keep it running or terminate it
[11:00] <arcasa> Where is the config file?
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, no idea
[11:00] <Hawkwind> arcasa: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete-old  and then try starting kopete
[11:00] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: I will use VLC
[11:00] <Hawkwind> arcasa: Do that as normal user, *not* as sudo or su
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, i think vlc is better, but i have no idea about the paste bin
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> might be your engine
[11:01] <kalagaraz> ok I replaced breezy back with dapper
[11:01] <Admiral_Chicago> "xine: couldn't find demux" might be the key
[11:01] <kalagaraz> now I get this error
[11:01] <kalagaraz> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[11:01] <kalagaraz> when doing apt-get update
[11:01] <fdoving> kalagaraz: change the order of s/breezy/dapper/g and re-run the command.
[11:02] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: Import the key then
[11:02] <kalagaraz> what key?
[11:02] <fdoving> kalagaraz: read the kubuntu.org faq.
[11:02] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: I think I have a problem because my computer is too slow for what I want
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> kalagaraz, that was for pierreth
[11:02] <kalagaraz> I'm reading the guide, doesn't say anything about a key
[11:02] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv A506E6D4DD4D5088 && gpg --export --armor A506E6D4DD4D5088 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, maybe
[11:02] <Electrolyte> Wow, I can see why they got this new fglrx driver out early.
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> oh hahah, wrong key
[11:02] <Electrolyte> Given me a 75% frame increase in UT2004 :o
[11:02] <fdoving> kalagaraz: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[11:02] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: Pentium III 500MHz
[11:02] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: That's Riddell's key, which you'll want imported to keep from getting that warning
[11:03] <kalagaraz> I added that command and got
[11:03] <kalagaraz> gpg: fatal: can't create directory `/home/kalagaraz/.gnupg': No such file or directory
[11:03] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: There should have been more output
[11:03] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: thank you
[11:03] <arcasa> There was no config file.
[11:03] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: If you need to, mkdir ~/.gnupg
[11:03] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, okay good
[11:03] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: about half an hour/
[11:03] <Hawkwind> arcasa: There has to be a config file of some sort if you've run it before
[11:04] <kalagaraz> I'm in a chroot or whatever if thats important
[11:04] <Hawkwind> arcasa: You can do: sudo apt-get remove --purge kopete && sudo apt-get install kopete
[11:04] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: Just create the directory then
[11:04] <kalagaraz> mkdir fails too
[11:04] <kalagaraz> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/kalagaraz/.gnupg': No such file or directory
[11:05] <joshelu> holas
[11:05] <fdoving> kalagaraz: mkdir -p /home/kalagaraz/.gnupg
[11:05] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: sudo mkdir ~/.gnupg  ?
[11:05] <Hawkwind> ERmm, mkdir -p  actually
[11:05] <kalagaraz> fdoving's worked
[11:05] <Hawkwind> Hah, thanks fdoving
[11:05] <fdoving> :)
[11:05] <Hawkwind> The chroot just dawned on me :)
[11:06] <kalagaraz> I got this at end of key update thing this time
[11:06] <kalagaraz> sudo: unable to lookup kalagaraz-desktop via gethostbyname()
[11:06] <fdoving> kalagaraz: add kalagaraz-desktop to /etc/hosts inside the chroot.
[11:07] <kalagaraz> so /var/chroot/etc/hosts?
[11:07] <fdoving> yes.
[11:07] <mvdkleijn> hi all... anybody good with php and apache? This will probably turn out to be a dumb question but its late...
[11:07] <fdoving> mvdkleijn: shoot.
[11:08] <sybux> any1 know a good replacement for Adobe Photoshop ?
[11:08] <kalagaraz> added it still getting error
[11:08] <mvdkleijn> fdoving: I've got a php script which calls a perl script (I cannot change the perl script)... the perl script tries to restart apache... conclusion apache dies and stays dead because the perl script kills its own process...
[11:08] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: are you out there?
[11:08] <Hawkwind> sybux: Gimp ?
[11:08] <sybux> Hawkwind: it can read photoshop file ?
[11:09] <kalagaraz> How come all this stuff isn't covered in the guide?
[11:09] <Hawkwind> sybux: Not 100% sure about that to be honest
[11:09] <karen_> oi
[11:09] <Hawkwind> sybux: You could ask in #Gimp unless someone here knows that answer, as I don't :(
[11:09] <fdoving> mvdkleijn: nice one. what is it you're trying to do?
[11:09] <sybux> Ok I'll test right now
[11:09] <sybux> will check for you
[11:09] <karen_> oi
[11:09] <Hawkwind> sybux: You could run photoshop in something like crossover office, or wine possibly
[11:10] <kalagaraz> bah I thought I disabled shift+backspace
[11:10] <osiris> say for some reason a samba server gets powered off while i have it mounted.  I wind up with a "stuck" mountpoint, that i can't unmount.  How would i go about forcing it to unmount
[11:10] <mvdkleijn> trying to call the createdomain.pl script of webmin from a php script I wrote for my clients to get a domain up and running within 5 minutes... I thought to easily integrate it.. :P
[11:10] <mvdkleijn> virtualmin actually..
[11:10] <kalagaraz> !chroot Kalagaraz
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chroot Kalagaraz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <Hawkwind> osiris: fuser -k /mnt/whatever ?
[11:10] <kalagaraz> !chroot
[11:10] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:10] <Hawkwind> osiris: As sudo of course ?
[11:11] <kalagaraz> anyways fdoving I'm stilling getting the host error thing after created the file
[11:11] <fdoving> kalagaraz: how does the file look? compate to your /etc/hosts file, or you can even copy the one from you real system nito the chroot.
[11:11] <kalagaraz> comapte?
[11:11] <LeeJunFan> kalagaraz: cp /etc/hosts /var/chroot/etc/.
[11:12] <kalagaraz> compate*
[11:12] <fdoving> kalagaraz: that's 'compare'
[11:12] <LeeJunFan> kalagaraz: cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/chroot/etc/.
[11:12] <kalagaraz> cp: cannot overwrite directory `/var/chroot/etc/./hosts' with non-directory
[11:12] <damdam> bonsoir a tous
[11:12] <LeeJunFan> uh, hosts shouldn't be a directory.
[11:13] <Hawkwind> !fr
[11:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:13] <damdam> thx
[11:13] <kalagaraz> you said create /var/chroot/hosts
[11:13] <mvdkleijn> fdoving: trying to call the createdomain.pl script of virtualmin from a php script I wrote for my clients to get a domain up and running within 5 minutes... I thought to easily integrate it with my site.. :P
[11:13] <kalagaraz> that looks like a directory to me :(
[11:13] <Mikelevel> nas
[11:13] <osiris> that didnt work Hawkwind.  i try to unmount it, and i get /home/osiris/mnt/OTHERBOX/otherbox_d probably not smb-filesystem
[11:13] <jmichaelx> could someone suggest a readily available PCMCIA wireless card that works out of the box in dapper?
[11:13] <Mikelevel> para hacer prelink en kubuntu hay q editar algun archivo para decirle a kde que use prelink?
[11:14] <osiris> the machine that share is on isnt even booted
[11:14] <kalagaraz> so what am I suppose to do?
[11:15] <octan> how do i disable sound with mplayer? mplayer ??
[11:15] <octan> i wanna see a movie without sound
[11:16] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Any 'B' card will work out of the box, especially Orinoco Silver/Gold B cards
[11:16] <phreakys> hello
[11:16] <fdoving> mvdkleijn: if you can't edit the perl script i doubt it is much you can do.. really.
[11:16] <igor> how can i change the dimension?
[11:16] <igor> how can i change the dimension of my kde interface?
[11:16] <jmichaelx> ty Hawkwind.... are those slower speed than many of the newer ones?
[11:16] <igor> i want to put 1024x680
[11:16] <fdoving> octan: mplayer -nosound movie.avi
[11:16] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: B is slower than G yes.  Is there a reason you need the faster speeds ?
[11:17] <kalagaraz> sudo: unable to lookup kalagaraz-desktop via gethostbyname() :(
[11:17] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Meaning, are you just using it for transferring files internally or what ?
[11:17] <sybux> Gimp Conclusion : It can open photoshop file, it can restore different layer.
[11:17] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: no, i mean,,, is B like 11 Mbps, or %$ Mbps?
[11:17] <Hawkwind> sybux: So you're all good then ?
[11:17] <jmichaelx> 54*
[11:17] <sybux> One problem seems to appear, it can't reload FX on layer
[11:17] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Correct.  B is 11, G is 54
[11:17] <sybux> Hawkwind: yes nearly !
[11:18] <jmichaelx> ok
[11:18] <sybux> I just have now to lear Gimp :D
[11:18] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Of course G can do B speeds as well, but B can *not* do G speeds.
[11:18] <igor> how can i change the dimension of my kde interface?  i want to put 1024x680px
[11:18] <kalagaraz> I want my hostname :(
[11:18] <Hawkwind> igor: There is a place in systemsettings or in kcontrol
[11:18] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: ok... and is it possible to get G speeds in dapper with any card? out of the box?
[11:19] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: That I don't know.  You can read the wireless page though and see what it says about what is supported
[11:19] <Hawkwind> !wireless > jmichaelx
[11:19] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: ty again
[11:19] <octan> fdoving ok thanks.. do you know how to view it slomo too?
[11:19] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: No problem
[11:19] <fildo> morning
[11:20] <tony_> hello everyone , i have one question .. im new to linux.
[11:20] <tony_> is there any filesharing program like Emule or edonkey for linux?
[11:20] <zorglu_> tony_: yep, both are available
[11:20] <kalagaraz> Leejunfun I did cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/chroot/etc/.   but still get lookup error
[11:20] <tony_> im using ebuntu 64 bit
[11:20] <zorglu_> should not matter
[11:21] <tony_> would you tell me where i can find emule?
[11:21] <Hawkwind> !emule
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Hawkwind> !info emule
[11:21] <ubotu> Package emule does not exist in any distro I know
[11:21] <fdoving> octan: no, sorry, can't help you there.
[11:21] <zorglu_> tony_: those are easy to port stuff, so should be repackage easily
[11:21] <Hawkwind> Gotta compile it it seems
[11:21] <zorglu_> !amule
[11:21] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[11:21] <Hawkwind> tony_: There is also frostwire, limewire and many others
[11:21] <tony_> hehe, im way too new to linux i have no idea how to port them , compile them and stuff yet
[11:21] <igor> Hawkwind:  i didnt found
[11:22] <igor> :|
[11:22] <kalagaraz> sudo: unable to lookup kalagaraz-desktop via gethostbyname()    how do I fix that?
[11:22] <tony_> cool ubotu.. i will try amule
[11:22] <zorglu_> tony_: ubotu is a bot :)
[11:23] <tony_> dooohhhh
[11:23] <tony_> seems much smarter then i am
[11:23] <tony_> :)
[11:23] <zorglu_> :)
[11:23] <zorglu_> he does know a lot :)
[11:23] <tony_> this is great IRC .. im soo excited with linux
[11:24] <kalagaraz> Is there anyway to get root acress in Konqueror file view thingy?
[11:24] <kalagaraz> getting access denied errors
[11:24] <tony_> i have no amule in my ubuntu
[11:24] <tony_> :(
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> kdesu konqueror
[11:24] <tony_> i looked in lost and found and in add remove program
[11:25] <red> i need the link to the wiki ati binary drivers
[11:25] <zorglu_> tony_: make sure you got the 'universe' repository and use 'adept' to search it
[11:26] <tony_> is there any information on ubuntu about universe repository ?? no clue as to where i should look for it
[11:26] <zorglu_> !repo
[11:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:26] <zorglu_> tony_: see how smart ubotu is ? :)
[11:26] <tony_> lol..
[11:27] <tony_> im feeling dummer as we go
[11:27] <tony_> :(
[11:27] <zorglu_> dont
[11:27] <zorglu_> we are glad to have you :)
[11:27] <tony_> now that i know ubotu is robot, i can come here and ask soo many question :)
[11:27] <tony_> thanks zorglu:)
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> tony_: I can see amule but then I am running 32bit not 64
[11:28] <red> where do i get ati drivers
[11:28] <tony_> ubuntu is my first linux install :) .. so im learning as we speak
[11:28] <tony_> :(
[11:28] <cpk1> !ati
[11:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <cpk1> tony_: the best way to learn is by jumping right in =)
[11:28] <tony_> maybe i should install 32 bit .. there are many thing that are not avalible for 64 including flash player
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> tony_: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> tony_: http://en.jakilinux.org/linux/ubuntu/kubuntu-606-on-athlon-64/
[11:29] <zorglu_> tony_: it would make your life easier, especially when begining, once you got more confortable you may get to 64 and handle all its specificities :)
[11:30] <tony_> thanks gatekeeper..
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> tony_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:30] <tony_> yes zorglu. i think i will do that . by going 32 bit
[11:30] <kalagaraz> ok I got chroot installed. now how do I install something 32bit?
[11:31] <cpk1> tony_: i'm sure if you wait a year or so 64 will be pretty streamlined by then =P
[11:31] <tony_> im sure cpk1. i was reading article about flash player for 64 bit , it seems adobe is developing one for linux
[11:31] <tony_> since vista comming out too , i hope that happes at the same time
[11:32] <tony_> i realy got to learn bash .. :) . i got few resourse regarding that .. i have no idea how to work in shell and i know i will crash the kde soon :)
[11:32] <igor> what can i do to get root? to set my root password...
[11:33] <Hawkwind> igor: sudo passwd  or sudo passwd su
[11:33] <kalagaraz> seriously someone tell me where I can fix shift+backspace
[11:33] <sybux> Does any1 have try to connect a sony Ericsson P910i with Kubuntu ?
[11:33] <Hawkwind> igor: That will allow to have a traditional root account
[11:33] <igor> ok man thanks a lot
[11:33] <cpk1> tony_: what type of things are you trying to do in a shell?
[11:33] <kalagaraz> !shift+backspace
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shift+backspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <tony_> pretty much like to learn everything.. i tried to install nvidia driver and managed to crash the system since didn't know how to work in shell , i had to reinstall linux :(
[11:34] <kalagaraz> I got nvidia installed I think following cgl/compiz guide
[11:34] <kalagaraz> xgl*
[11:34] <sorush20> my floppy has suddenly disappeared
[11:34] <sorush20> help
[11:34] <cpk1> tony_: apt-get installs nvidia drivers for you
[11:35] <kalagaraz> sorush20 that is physically impossible
[11:35] <tony_> well, thats shell command right ? for now i think i stick to generic driver untill im good to go with shell :)
[11:35] <sorush20> kalagaraz: you know what I mean.. I mean that kde is not recognising ir
[11:35] <sorush20> it
[11:36] <igor> Hawkwind: im trying to change my interface resolution, ive already changed xorg.conf, now all i have to do is restart the kde?
[11:36] <cpk1> tony_: for nvidia drivers its something like sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:36] <kalagaraz> How do I fix shift+backspace restarting X?
[11:36] <cpk1> shouldnt be too hard =P
[11:36] <Hawkwind> igor: Possibly, yes
[11:36] <cpk1> !nvidia
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:36] <igor> ok
[11:36] <igor> ill update then ill restart
[11:36] <igor> thanks
[11:36] <sybux> igor : you can follow this link. http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000081/ it has worked fine for me
[11:36] <tony_> i have gforce 7300 .. i found driver for it on nvidia site with run extension
[11:37] <ConsoleFx> NthDegree i am back....
[11:37] <ConsoleFx> i have asked abt my cell switching off prob ... u got it??
[11:37] <ConsoleFx> i am that guy
[11:37] <ConsoleFx> anyways
[11:37] <tony_> be right back
[11:38] <tony_> :)
[11:38] <ConsoleFx>  i connectted to another urb port and it didn't get switch off :)
[11:38] <NthDegree> lmao
[11:39] <cpk1> tony_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia doesnt work for you?
[11:39] <ConsoleFx> and i installed the application in kubuntu....
[11:39] <sybux> C u l8r ! -> time to sleep...
[11:39] <ConsoleFx> :p
[11:39] <ConsoleFx> but the last prob arises is it didnt get connected
[11:40] <ConsoleFx> when i am issuing the command rconnect to connect to the internet frm the shell then its showing pppd [options] .... and then its showing some pppd options...
[11:40] <tony_> when i tried to install my driver, the driver asked for many other program .. such as kernl, sdk develpment packages etc.. my installation faild on sdk part
[11:41] <cpk1> tony_: did you use apt-get?
[11:41] <ConsoleFx> how i will be able to solve it... :-ss
[11:41] <ConsoleFx> NthDegree plz tell
[11:41] <tony_> no , nvidia instraction was to install using the shell .
[11:41] <tony_> using comman like this
[11:42] <tony_> sh nvidia-linux-x86_64.......................
[11:42] <tony_> and then follow the instruction
[11:42] <cpk1> if you are installing from the package nvidia gave you then you need to stop x first
[11:42] <tony_> thats right
[11:42] <cpk1> although i dont see why you wouldnt want to use apt-get
[11:42] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, uh learn what you need to put to connect
[11:43] <NthDegree> ConsoleFx, those drivers are BETA meaning they haven't been well tested
[11:43] <tony_> is not that i don't wnat to , is just i have no idea how too :)
[11:43] <cpk1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:43] <cpk1> thats how =)
[11:44] <tony_> i will try that again . thanks cpk1
[11:44] <tony_> how you are not robot :)
[11:44] <tony_> hope
[11:44] <ConsoleFx> ya u r right... but i have seen once that one of my frnd did this in another lnx box.. and then he went to /etc/rconnect/rconnect.conf and he changed the device location to /dev/ttySo or something.... and after that he got connected :-ss
[11:45] <ConsoleFx> so  i think if i will be able to set proper path then i can connect
[11:45] <ConsoleFx> i am sure abt it...
[11:45] <ConsoleFx> but need to know the connect path to set in the /etc/rconnect/rconnect.conf file
[11:47] <tony_> coooooool, im installing amule :)
[11:47] <tony_> this is sooooo coooool
[11:47] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[11:48] <zorglu_> an happy customer :)
[11:48] <cpk1> tony_: apt-get is the lazy persons best friend
[11:48] <cpk1> and helps new people
[11:48] <tony_> i realy hope linux kick microsoft ass sooon
[11:48] <cpk1> and removes the hassle of downloading tons of dependencies
[11:48] <tony_> all i have to type in shell is apt-get nvidia-glx
[11:48] <tony_> ?
[11:48] <kalagaraz> How do I install a deb file from console? I have it on my desktop
[11:49] <Homer> tony_:  sudo apt-get install <package>
[11:49] <zorglu_> kalagaraz: "sudo dpkg -i yourpacakagename.deb"
[11:49] <zorglu_> 2 answer for 2 different understanding of the question :)
[11:49] <tony_> downed driver has .run extension
[11:49] <kalagaraz> !chroot
[11:49] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:50] <cpk1> tony_: for the nvidia drivers its "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[11:51] <sorush20> could someone help me please?
[11:51] <sorush20> I can't find my floppy..
[11:51] <sorush20> in kubuntu
[11:51] <tony_> thank cpk , i will give that try soon
[11:51] <tony_> :)
[11:51] <|GaiJin|> can someone tell me what I have to do to make http://seerofsouls.com/dists/dapper/contrib/binary-i386/ into a apt-source string.... like deb http://seerofsouls.com/.... can someone fill it out... been trying for along time now...
[11:52] <cpk1> tony_: if you do the nvidia drivers from apt-get you dont need to stop X
[11:52] <tony_> that would be much easier for me
[11:52] <ironfroggy> is there a way to get firefox plugins' audio to play through arts?
[11:55] <sorush20> I am rooot.. sudo force all user -answer  root
[11:55] <sorush20> how do I list my devices?
[11:55] <cpk1> tony_: since you seem like you could use an introduction to apt-get https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo this page might give you some useful info
[11:55] <cpk1> sorush20: lspci
[11:55] <cpk1> lsusb
[11:55] <cpk1> lshw
[11:55] <tony_> now thats great :) , i will read that intro , thanks cpk
[11:55] <Fade> so... uh.. where'd the feature go where you could <mod-key>-<tab> through a popup icon list of running applications?
[11:56] <ConsoleFx> i hope i will do it ...
[11:56] <ConsoleFx> i have some other lil probs...
[11:56] <sorush20> cpk1: I can't find my floppy..
[11:57] <ConsoleFx> how i will know that sound driver is installed in my system or not... ??
[11:57] <ConsoleFx> is there any commands?
[11:57] <admin_> play a sound?
[11:57] <cpk1> sorush20: lshw doesnt show it?
[11:58] <kalagaraz>  Package libart-2.0-2 is not installed   I'm getting like 100000 of those trying to install xvid. What am I missing exactly?
[11:58] <tony_> got to go, thanks for all the help.. see you guys soon :)
[11:58] <kalagaraz> I hope I don't have to individually install each one
[11:58] <sorush20> cpk1: no its not there
[11:58] <cpk1> !info libart-2.0-2
[11:58] <ubotu> libart-2.0-2: Library of functions for 2D graphics - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.17-1 (dapper), package size 58 kB, installed size 160 kB
[11:59] <ConsoleFx> i need to run mp3 files... but its opening but its not giving any sounds :(
[11:59] <ConsoleFx> so i think the sound driver is not there (may b)
[11:59] <sorush20> ConsoleFx: what program you using..
[11:59] <kalagaraz> !libfontconfig1
[11:59] <ubotu> libfontconfig1: generic font configuration library (shared library). In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.2-1.1ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 112 kB, installed size 260 kB
[11:59] <cpk1> ConsoleFx: open alsamixer and check the sound levels?
[11:59] <cpk1> kalagaraz: if they are in main they should install if they are a dependency
[12:00] <ConsoleFx> alsamixer.. where it resides???
[12:00] <cpk1> just run alsamixer
[12:00] <kalagaraz> I'm in a chroot which is probally the problem
[12:00] <sorush20> ConsoleFx: just type in the terminal alsamixer
[12:00] <ConsoleFx> okie... thnx.... let me try....
[12:01] <cpk1> he quit to do that?
[12:01] <sorush20> cpk1: in lshw what does your fd0 look like
[12:01] <sorush20> cpk1: yes he did..
[12:02] <sorush20> cpk1: i'm beginning to find things like this funny too... I guess I'm becoming a fully fledged geek..
[12:02] <cpk1> sorush20: i dont have a floppy plugged in
[12:03] <sorush20> cpk1: damn
[12:03] <sorush20> I'll have to reboot and check bios.. see ya
[12:03] <raul> hello guys.....could anybody help me with the answer to a simple question: how can I configure firewall of Kubuntu 5 system? (I lnow, I do not know mutch, I'm just a noobie into Linux world, but I hope you can help me) :)
[12:03] <kalagaraz> (xvidcap:23509): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[12:04] <kalagaraz> gay shift+backspace
[12:04] <kalagaraz> nothing in chroot is liking my local
[12:04] <kalagaraz> what did I do wrong?
[12:04] <xenoborg> n1ce kde repositories -> http://mrroot.homelinux.org/wordpress
[12:04] <lupine_85> raul: http://www.netfilter.org/
[12:04] <lupine_85> or install firestarter
[12:04] <zorglu_> !flash
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:05] <pielgrzym> anyone knows lilo well? :( I can't make a copy of my ubuntu run (it has a separate /boot partition)
[12:05] <kalagaraz> !chroot
[12:05] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:05] <raul> thanks lupine85
[12:07] <kalagaraz> !chroot
[12:07] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:07] <livre> what do I do after mounting an HD to /mnt folder?
[12:08] <livre> do I have to add permissions so I can execute the files?
[12:08] <red_> is there an extended desktop feature that i can get on my notebook with an ati card
[12:09] <renatim-br> what do I do after mounting an HD to /mnt folder?
[12:10] <cpk1> i would imagine you leave it there until you want to use it
[12:10] <kalagaraz> (xvidcap:23939): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:   anyidea how to fix that?