[08:51] <toosa> ping
[08:57] <toosa> hallo ...
[01:47] <freeflying> @schedule shanghai
[01:47] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Asia/Shanghai: 18 Sep 22:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 20:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Sep 04:00: Technical Board | 28 Sep 04:00: Edubuntu
[02:41] <irvin> @sked manila
[02:42] <jsgotangco> your puny filipino slang won't work here irvin!
[02:42] <jsgotangco> :D
[02:42] <irvin> :p
[02:43] <irvin> @sched manila
[02:44] <irvin> bah
[02:46] <jsgotangco> @schedule manila
[02:46] <Ubug2> Schedule for Asia/Manila: 18 Sep 22:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 20:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu | 21 Sep 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Sep 04:00: Technical Board | 28 Sep 04:00: Edubuntu
[02:46] <jsgotangco> :D
[02:54] <Hobbsee> @schedule sydney
[02:54] <Ubug2> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 19 Sep 00:00: LoCo | 19 Sep 22:00: Community Council | 20 Sep 22:00: Edubuntu | 22 Sep 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Sep 06:00: Technical Board | 28 Sep 06:00: Edubuntu
[03:35] <MehdiHassanpour> -
[03:46] <blaa_> hi hi
[03:46] <jono> hey
[03:47] <blaa_> how do I dump database from gentoo to ubuntu
[03:48] <elkbuntu> this isnt a support channel
[03:48] <blaa_> sorry
[03:49] <dsas> blaa_: Please see #ubuntu for support.
[03:49] <blaa_> dsas, thx
[03:56] <jono> ok we will start in about 5mins :)
[03:57] <jsgotangco> dum dummmmm
[03:58] <jono> :P
[04:00] <freeflying> hi all
[04:00] <elkbuntu> how many people are here for this LoCo meeting so far?
[04:01] <jono> ok
[04:01] <david`bgk> I'm, but from office, so not really active
[04:01] <jono> yeah, could everyone who is in the meeting say so :)
[04:01] <MehdiHassanpour> me too ;)
[04:01] <elkbuntu> me, ubuntu-au
[04:02] <newz2000> me, ubuntu webmaster
[04:02] <jsgotangco> yay
[04:02] <jono> ok, could someone else also save the log, my IRC client is a bit screwy
[04:02] <Gekitsuu> I'm here for the meeting
[04:02] <freeflying> jono: fabbione has log
[04:02] <elkbuntu> surely there's a logbot in here
[04:02] <jono> cool
[04:02] <jono> right, lets begin then
[04:03] <jono> I know a bunch of you already,but let me introduce myself
[04:03] <freeflying> jsgotangco: hi, long time haven;t seen you :)
[04:03] <jono> I am Jono Bacon and I the Ubuntu Community Manager working at Canonical
[04:03] <jono> when I started, one of the key things I wanted to work on is LoCo teams
[04:03] <jono> I think that LoCo teams are really centrally important to a strong Ubuntu with plenty of vitality and growth
[04:04] <jono> we have a number of teams who have formed, and some teams are very strong and some need some help and assistance
[04:04] <jono> when I started, one thing was clear though
[04:04] <jono> there was *very little* communication between teams
[04:05] <jono> we had a bunch of teams, many in regionally close areas, but with little or no communication
[04:05] <jono> so, the first plan of action on my "list of things to do to make LoCo teams kiss ass" was to help teams collaborate together
[04:05] <elkbuntu> o.O
[04:05] <jono> erm
[04:05] <jono> kick ass :P
[04:06] <jono> hehe
[04:06] <Gnomonic> Right.
[04:06] <Gnomonic> Got a bit scared, there.
[04:06] <jono> ass kissing is tolerated though if needed :P
[04:06] <jono> so, to help with this I have tried to get loco-contacts on its feet again
[04:06] <elkbuntu> indeed, try avoid the hairy ones though
[04:06] <jono> and that list is intended for groups to talk together and share experiences
[04:07] <elkbuntu> i think many would agree you've made a good start on that, jono :)
[04:07] <jsgotangco> well
[04:07] <jsgotangco> some teams do communicate
[04:07] <MehdiHassanpour> this sharing is very important
[04:07] <jsgotangco> in a server POV
[04:07] <jsgotangco> ;)
[04:07] <jono> thanks elkbuntu 
[04:07] <jsgotangco> especially those sharing in one server
[04:07] <MehdiHassanpour> but how
[04:07] <jsgotangco> but that's it
[04:07] <jono> so, communication is clearly important
[04:08] <jono> now, there are a few other plans too:
[04:08] <jono>  * tidy up the New Teams on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[04:08] <jono> there are lots of teams on that list who have not been accepted as official teams yet
[04:08] <jono> I plan on getting to that when I return from my holiday around oct 7th
[04:09] <jono> also
[04:09] <jono> there is a combination of many different types of team, some confident and experienced, and some not so
[04:09] <jono> I was thinking of methods in which we can level the playing field out a little, and one of the plans is for LoCo teams to mentor each other
[04:10] <jono> some teams are very strong and active, and they could help get teams on their feet
[04:10] <jono> you can think of this as an outsourcing of myself - I just don't have time to attend to *every* team, so mentoring helps spread the load
[04:10] <jono> I have been working with elkbuntu on this, and there is going to be a trial of one team mentoring another and then we will open it up to the full LoCo community
[04:11] <elkbuntu> you also cant speak every language either ;)
[04:11] <jono> hehe
[04:11] <jono> I can barely speak english :P
[04:11] <elkbuntu> ;)
[04:11] <jono> so, the aim of this meeting is to share this progress
[04:11] <elkbuntu> but anyway yeah, should we go into more details?
[04:11] <jono> but to also get ideas for ways we can work together
[04:12] <jono> elkbuntu, sure, do you want to fill people in :)
[04:12] <elkbuntu> sure
[04:12] <Gnomonic> Interruption: Does this meeting have an agenda, or is it just free-talking?
[04:12] <jono> :)
[04:12] <MehdiHassanpour> jono, how and where we can get other teams experiences ?
[04:12] <jono> Gnomonic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamMeeting
[04:12] <jono> fairly short agenda
[04:12] <jono> MehdiHassanpour, we will discuss that soon
[04:12] <jono> elkbuntu, shoot :)
[04:13] <elkbuntu> when jono first joined the community, he spoke to me and mentioned this idea about mentoring
[04:13] <elkbuntu> i thought about it for a week or so and said 'yeah, lets give it a go'
[04:14] <Yann2> don't know for you, but I barely have the time to handle -fr, so for other locoteams... :p
[04:14] <elkbuntu> i nominated helping the new zealand loco team, since they're close and through one of their members that lurks in our channel, i had found out they were not going so well
[04:14] <elkbuntu> Yann2, this is my second meeting today, 2 of 4 over 2 days. im going insane ;)
[04:14] <jono> :P
[04:14] <Yann2> I don't think that this kind of mentoring would be really helpful
[04:15] <elkbuntu> Yann2, i also have the benefit of a self-maintaining loco that just needs the occasional prod
[04:15] <elkbuntu> Yann2, what we're doing is a feasability case study
[04:15] <Yann2> ok :p
[04:15] <elkbuntu> to see how it goes, whether it works and so forth
[04:16] <elkbuntu> 4 hours ago, was the -au fortnightly meeting, and in that meeting i invited the nz members i could find and jono to join in
[04:16] <Gnomonic> It doesn't have to be the Team leader or even the LoCo-contact to help. Yann2, couldn't you find a normal team-member to be a sort of Team-mentor-liason?
[04:16] <jono> lets discuss it in a sec folks, and let elkbuntu finish :)
[04:16] <elkbuntu> it was fairly lively, got the nz guys thinking and we have a meeting organised for tomorrow to fling ideas around
[04:16] <david`bgk> jono, I've added a fourth item on the agenda, ok with that?
[04:16] <jono> david`bgk, sure
[04:17] <elkbuntu> so really, things are just starting in this study, and we hope to be able to figure out ways that work and so forth
[04:18] <jono> yes, this is jus a test at first
[04:18] <elkbuntu> did you want to add anything, jono?
[04:18] <Gekitsuu> is it going to be just the one trial or will there be a few?
[04:18] <jono> Gekitsuu, just one at first
[04:18] <elkbuntu> one at a time
[04:18] <elkbuntu> baby steps ;)
[04:18] <jono> let me make clear what I mean by mentoring:
[04:19] <jono> mentoring is not the same process in all scenarios, but it is helping a LoCo group to develop their own culture and way of working
[04:19] <phanatic> hey loco people, sorry for being late...
[04:19] <Ju> (Hi all) for a start, helping other loco, each already running team could describe their platform (tool for wiki, planet, forum and how to combine them) and/or provide the css theme to adapt for each loco, for example some other locoteams were interested by the ubuntu-fr theme 
[04:19] <jono> this does not mean "doing stuff" for that group, but will largely involve IRC meetings, and exchanging emails
[04:19] <elkbuntu> guys, hush, jono is speaking
[04:19] <jono> the idea is in keeping the communication channels open between teams and helping those new at setting up teams to get on their feet
[04:20] <jsgotangco> that's supposed to be the purpose of the locoteams channel right?
[04:20] <jono> part of the reason why we are trialling it is so we can identify good mentors - mentors *need* to be good and open at running teams, with random mentoring that is more difficult
[04:20] <elkbuntu> jsgotangco, yep, which is fine if the teams have managed to get some form of order and nominate an actual contact etc
[04:21] <jono> so much of this is about documentation best practice when it comes to mentoring
[04:21] <Yann2> btw, the -locoteams channel has nothing official :)
[04:21] <jono> the grand plan is to develop a community of real community building experts
[04:21] <jono> instead of just building ad-hoc teams, much of this is about developing an education in community building
[04:21] <jono> this will make the community more inclusive, closer and more efficient
[04:22] <jono> ok, thats me done
[04:22] <jono> so any questions
[04:22] <jono> or thoughts :)
[04:22] <Yann2> I love the "sharing locoteams experience" part :)
[04:22] <MehdiHassanpour> I think before mentoring, teams can describe what they do and have done to shape a team
[04:22] <MehdiHassanpour> agree
[04:22] <jono> yes
[04:22] <Yann2> some way to resume what locoteams achieved, and how they did... why not even "recipes"
[04:22] <jono> good point MehdiHassanpour 
[04:23] <jono> much of this is about documentation on the wiki :)
[04:23] <jono> lt me answer this:
 (Hi all) for a start, helping other loco, each already running team could describe their platform (tool for wiki, planet, forum and how to combine them) and/or provide the css theme to adapt for each loco, for example some other locoteams were interested by the ubuntu-fr theme 
[04:23] <Gnomonic> In my mind, there are several phases of starting a team.
[04:23] <jono> Ju, that is the kind of thing that is important too
[04:23] <newz2000> jono: I can chime in on your comment when you're ready for feedback
[04:23] <jono> I am also interested in exploring how to centralise resources
[04:23] <philwyett> Are you looking at a set of common team goals for locoteams as a whole for a common base to build upon?
[04:24] <jono> ok one sec guys
[04:24] <jono> newz2000, shoot
[04:24] <Gnomonic> I believe that the initial start-up have to come from the team itself, where mentoring is a good solution for getting over the bar for being a full team.
[04:24] <jono> then we can do philwyett 
[04:24] <newz2000> Some of you have met me, I'm the Ubuntu webmaster, and have been helping the newer teams get websites.
[04:24] <jono> Gnomonic, definitly
[04:25] <newz2000> If you don't have a website yet for your loco, please talk to me and I can help you get free hosting
[04:25] <jono> newz2000, just as a side note, I am developing some ideas about centralising LoCo resources so it is easier for teams to get going - I will arrange a meeting with you and the Launchpad dudes :)
[04:25] <freeflying> newz2000: where is the server hosted?
[04:25] <newz2000> We have several servers, most in the US, some in EU.
[04:26] <freeflying> jono: centralise locoteam resource? it will be a nightmare for many guys from china
[04:26] <elkbuntu> when newz2000 is finished, i'd like to add something to the comment MehdiHassanpour made
[04:26] <jono> freeflying, good point
[04:26] <newz2000> jono: OK, then I'll guess I'll leave at that for now.
[04:27] <jono> newz2000, cool, thanks!
[04:27] <newz2000> elkbuntu: go ahead
[04:27] <jono> elkbuntu, shoot
[04:27] <elkbuntu> just going back to MehdiHassanpour's comment about before mentoring... the truely successful teams stand out themselves anyway, such as the indonesia team which has managed to get some media lately. jono initially approached me after my appearance in mainstream media here
[04:28] <MehdiHassanpour> that DVD is really usefull for our team too
[04:28] <elkbuntu> i think it's important to keep an eye out for the work of teams that may not necissarily be vocal in the central locoteam channel or who may not know what's goign on outside their area
[04:29] <jono> I think it is important that teams start out themselves and then get mentoring where they need it
[04:29] <jono> mentoring may be a patchy experience, only applied where needed
[04:29] <Gnomonic> :-)
[04:29] <elkbuntu> thats not to say we dont plant the seed and let them decide to come ask for help
[04:30] <jono> yes
[04:30] <jono> ok
 Are you looking at a set of common team goals for locoteams as a whole for a common base to build upon?
[04:31] <jono> philwyett, this is part of the plan
[04:31] <Gnomonic> The sharing of team experiences and projects, I think, is a very good way to plant seeds. Wasn't there a 'ideas for a locoteam'-page at some point?
[04:31] <jono> I am interested in developing some guidence for running a team
[04:31] <jono> Gnomonic, yep
[04:31] <jono> I think we need the following core docs on the wiki:
[04:32] <jono>  * how to run a loco team - a guide about how to run a loco effectively, encourage new members etc
[04:32] <jono>  * things you can do as a loco team - details and ideas of activities a loco can do
[04:32] <jono> I am also developing a document that outlines what a loco team needs to do to get accepted as an official team
[04:32] <MehdiHassanpour> this will be great help, jono
[04:33] <jono> any other questions?
[04:33] <Yann2> (may we have a dedicated website, or will we have to work on the official english wiki?)
[04:33] <MehdiHassanpour> and ask teams to announce what they do 
[04:33] <MehdiHassanpour> or have started
[04:34] <jono> Yann2, dedicated site for loco teams?
[04:34] <philwyett> For sharing whats happening in different teams - A live bookmarks feed like the fridge to allow people to see whats happening and maybe move out of their loco-team more?
[04:34] <Gnomonic> I agree with MehdiHassanpour. It helps on the efficiency of a project, when you are in some way 'accountable' for your projects.
[04:34] <jono> Yann2, I would like to see us get out wiki pages up to scratch and then a move to a dedicated site may be an option
[04:34] <Yann2> with wiki, blog, documents for getting approved as official locoteam, hosting, [...] 
[04:34] <jono> philwyett, I have been talking to the fridge people about getting far more loco news on there
[04:35] <philwyett> jono: Ah, OK
[04:35] <jono> I think we need loco teams to be able to see what other teams are doing and it will inspsire them to do their own things
[04:35] <philwyett> True
[04:35] <jono> I posted to loco-contacts for case studies and stories, do send them over :)
[04:35] <MehdiHassanpour> many of these projects can be localized and customized by other teams for their local use too
[04:36] <jono> any final questions?
[04:37] <jono> ok
[04:37] <jono> lets cover this item:
[04:37] <jono> Improving communication between LoCo teams and Canonical/Ubuntu orientations
[04:37] <jono> David - want to outline what you mean?
[04:37] <Yann2> david`bgk, ping
[04:37] <jono> thanks Yann2 :)
[04:38] <david`bgk> yes, we don't know what ubuntu/canonical want about locos
[04:38] <jono> right
[04:38] <elkbuntu> afaik thats why we now have jono ;)
[04:38] <MehdiHassanpour> ;)
[04:38] <jono> david`bgk, this is what I am interested in helping with
[04:39] <jono> I want to realise the full potential of the LoCo community
[04:39] <Gnomonic> Every home needs a Jono.
[04:39] <jono> heh
[04:39] <elkbuntu> lol
[04:39] <jono> david`bgk, in answer to your question:
[04:39] <david`bgk> elkbuntu, yes but what about locos and canonical projects? we can do it together (for example spreading ubuntu at the office, etc)
[04:40] <Yann2> david`bgk 's afraid about competition between canonical and community, i think :)
[04:40] <elkbuntu> i think the fact that canonical has hired jono should make it clear that they take the community seriously. jono -is- part of canonical
[04:40] <jono> Canonical have ideas about how LoCo teams can help, and I have stacks of ideas, but part of what I want to do is to help the LoCo community develop cool ideas, schemes and more
[04:40] <david`bgk> Yann2, not at all but what can we do together to promote ubuntu
[04:40] <jono> canonical take community *extremely* seriously
[04:41] <elkbuntu> rightly so since it is the one thing that makes ubuntu awesome
[04:41] <jono> david`bgk, so you mean methods in which we can advocate ubuntu?
[04:41] <david`bgk> jono, yes for example when did they want to promote officially ubuntu in france?
[04:41] <jono> david`bgk, what do you mean 'officially' ?
[04:41] <elkbuntu> david`bgk, you're free to drop into the marketing team channel at any time, btw
[04:42] <david`bgk> yes in terms of marketing
[04:42] <jono> david`bgk, you mean canonical marketing or the ubuntu community marketing?
[04:43] <Yann2> mmmh. in other words, we heard canonical wants to hire someone in france, essentially to do some advocacy
[04:43] <david`bgk> jono, is there a difference between those? (and what about foundation?)
[04:43] <jono> david`bgk, I don't think an effective LoCo structure is for Canonical to say "we want you to do this" and LoCo teams just do it
[04:43] <Yann2> we were surprised they didn'nt ping us, and wondered where our work start, and where it stops :)
[04:43] <jono> Canonical want LoCo teams to be their own entity in many ways
[04:43] <david`bgk> jono, not "want" but maybe "suggest" ;)
[04:43] <elkbuntu> i think there's a distinct line between the responsibilities of canonical and the responsibilities of the community
[04:43] <jono> david`bgk, sure, and we can certainly suggest ideas :)
[04:44] <jono> as for canonical and ubuntu marketing - remember, ubuntu is its own project, but canonical sponsor it
[04:44] <jono> canonical does not rule ubuntu and controll it
[04:44] <Yann2> don't want to troll but... that's not that clear, sorry :/
[04:44] <jono> Yann2, what isnt?
[04:44] <Yann2> well that's another debate
[04:44] <Yann2> that canonical/ubuntu foundation thing
[04:45] <jono> right
[04:45] <elkbuntu> im going to suggest that since this isnt a loco based thing as such it be brought up with the CC
[04:45] <jono> yes
[04:45] <Yann2> let's stick to the topic 
[04:45] <Gnomonic> Maybe it would be great with an informational-meeting about that topic?
[04:45] <jono> Gnomonic, I agree
[04:45] <elkbuntu> feel free to suggest it to the CC
[04:45] <Yann2> already have my answer,  from mark himself, just not that satisfied with it :p
[04:46] <jono> I think we need to remember that LoCo teams are not there to just do work for Canonical, but they are there to help and promote Ubuntu
[04:46] <elkbuntu> there is a CC meeting tomorrow
[04:46] <Gnomonic> It you just pop into that an make a suggestion?
[04:46] <jono> david`bgk, if you are interested in Canonical establishing how LoCo teams fit in with the Canonical marketinbg strategy, I think we should think about it
[04:47] <jono> Gnomonic, add it to the agenda
[04:47] <david`bgk> jono, ok now or on the mailing-list?
[04:48] <Gnomonic> Just before we get back on topic. Could anyone check up on it, because I probably won't be able to attend.
[04:48] <MehdiHassanpour> I think loco teams can have some kind of professional support and charge customers too, to cover their costs
[04:49] <jono> david`bgk, I don;t think we have time now, plus I would like to get our Marketing manager along to a meeting about that
[04:49] <jono> david`bgk, maybe at the next LoCo meeting
[04:49] <jono> this brings me onto the subject of LoCo meetings
[04:49] <jono> I would like us to have regular meetings where possib
[04:49] <jono> possible
[04:49] <david`bgk> jono, ok good idea
[04:49] <elkbuntu> yep
[04:49] <jono> but we need to hit the different time zones fairly
[04:49] <jono> so everyone can participate
[04:49] <Gnomonic> I was thinking about suggesting that.
[04:49] <elkbuntu> jono, you know about the timeanddate.com meeting planner?
[04:49] <jono> nope
[04:49] <jono> let me see
[04:50] <elkbuntu> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html
[04:51] <jsgotangco> we alway use that to sched events on diff tzs
[04:51] <jsgotangco> or juse something like tzwatch
[04:51] <jono> elkbuntu, wow thats cool
[04:51] <elkbuntu> timeanddate.com == teh awesome
[04:53] <Yann2> (is the meeting over?)
[04:53] <elkbuntu> not sure
[04:53] <elkbuntu> i think jono's playing with the site
[04:53] <jono> sorry, phone call
[04:53] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:53] <elkbuntu> or that
[04:53] <jono> ok, any final questions or comments?
[04:53] <Yann2> (I noted a lots of good intentions, but nothing really concrete)
[04:54] <jono> the aim of these meeting is not to create actions, but to just discuss some ideas
[04:54] <grimace> damn I've missed it ;)
[04:54] <jono> one concrete decision should be to have regular meetings
[04:54] <elkbuntu> grimace, yeah sorry. the logs will be up soon or so
[04:54] <Gnomonic> I have an idea: What about a LoCo idea pool?
[04:54] <jono> I am thinking every two weeks on a Monday
[04:54] <Gargoyle> I am very new to ubuntu, and the UK team. But I like what <MehdiHassanpour> said.
[04:54] <jono> Gnomonic, good idea, a wiki page where people can add ideas
[04:55] <philwyett> Slight OT question. The wiki is getting slower of late. Is this issue being addressed?
[04:55] <jono> Gargoyle, which point
[04:55] <grimace> elkbuntu: no worries and thanks
[04:55] <Gnomonic> excactly
[04:55] <elkbuntu> philwyett, i believe it is being looked in to
[04:55] <jono> philwyett, it has been, I have been onto the sysadmins about it, I will poke them again
[04:55] <Yann2> 1 every two weeks is a lot :(
 I think loco teams can have some kind of professional support and charge customers too, to cover their costs
[04:55] <philwyett> elkbuntu and jono: Good - thanks.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> jono: ping (at the end of your meeting)
[04:56] <elkbuntu> Yann2 the meetings dont have to be long or in depth, they can be simply a catchup and a chance to ask jono a question in a group environment
[04:56] <jono> I think we need to do meetings fortnightly - so one meeting a month is one timezone, and the other is another
[04:56] <jono> Hobbsee, ok :)
[04:56] <jono> elkbuntu, exactly
[04:57] <Yann2> elkbuntu, it's just my own opinion ;)
[04:57] <freeflying> jono: I still need your help :) 
[04:57] <elkbuntu> Yann2, also note what jono said. they'll end up monthly for most people anyway
[04:57] <jono> lets try every two weeks and see how we get on, nothing is cast in stone :)
[04:57] <Gnomonic> What time-zone was this meeting?
[04:57] <jono> gnomefreak, UTC
[04:58] <jono> europe mainly
[04:58] <MehdiHassanpour> I agree with every 2 weeks
[04:58] <jono> although east coast US could fit in and elkbuntu is in .au
[04:58] <elkbuntu> its now 1am here
[04:58] <Gnomonic> I would like to propose that the next 'europe'-meeting be set at least an hour later.
[04:59] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: will be used to having dodgy timezones.  it's a curse of living her.e
[04:59] <jono> heh
[04:59] <jono> right, lets finish up them
[04:59] <elkbuntu> fitting times to people is part of getting into the meeting mode
[04:59] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, aye
[04:59] <jono> I will schedule another meeting, but the next one I won't be there as I am on holiday
[05:00] <Yann2> jono, may I have two words with you after the meeting? :)
[05:00] <jono> Yann2, sure :)
[05:00] <jono> ok, thanks people :)
[05:00] <elkbuntu> jono, how long are you on holiday?
[05:00] <jono> elkbuntu, two weeks
[05:00] <jono> I return Oct 6th
[05:00] <Gnomonic> So the next meeting will be on monday the 2. of october at some-or-the-other time.
[05:00] <Gnomonic> Then no.
[05:00] <elkbuntu> jono, make it after you return, and start the schedule from then
[05:00] <jono> Gnomonic, yep
[05:00] <jono> ok
[05:00] <jono> can do
[05:00] <Gnomonic> I agree with the elk.
[05:00] <jono> maybe start on Oct 10th
[05:00] <MehdiHassanpour> I agree
[05:01] <jono> cool :)
[05:01] <jono> obviously you can't get enough jono, which is understandable :P
[05:01] <Gnomonic> It's a deal then.
[05:01] <jono> cool
[05:01] <MehdiHassanpour> set it whenever you are and have time
[05:01] <elkbuntu> you're effectively the point of these meetings jono, so your attendance is priority
[05:01] <jono> ok cool :)
[05:01] <MehdiHassanpour> ;)
[05:02] <Gnomonic> :-)
[05:02] <jono> thanks for attending people, and keep using loco-contacts :)
[05:02] <elkbuntu> meeting closed then?
[05:02] <jono> dsas, haha
[05:02] <Gnomonic> i guess so.
[05:03] <elkbuntu> goodnight all :)
[05:04] <Gnomonic> bye
[05:04] <MehdiHassanpour> nice to meet you all
[06:22] <poningru> frack
[06:22] <poningru> I missed the meeting 
[06:22] <poningru> again