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| dura | . | 07:37 |
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| dura | any life in here? | 07:37 |
| dura | I have to build magickwand from scratch against PHP5 (which is installed) and I'm wondering if I do apt-get source for the PHP5 src... | 07:38 |
| infinity | To build an extension against php5, you want php5-dev installd. | 07:44 |
| infinity | Then you can use phpize and all that jazz. | 07:44 |
| infinity | You should be able to untar magickwand, run "phpize", then ./configure --with-magickwand=/usr | 07:45 |
| dura | okay cool | 07:58 |
| dura | still learning lamp | 07:58 |
| dura | will there be a .deb for it soon by any chance? | 08:03 |
| infinity | No idea, never heard of it until just now. | 08:04 |
| dura | it's imagemagick for php5 | 08:06 |
| infinity | Yeah, I see that. | 08:06 |
| infinity | Obviously, I read far enough to tell you how to use it. :) | 08:06 |
| dura | i could ahve sworn I saw something in apt last night regarding imagemagick and php5 but... it's not there now lol | 08:06 |
| dura | lol sorry | 08:07 |
| infinity | There's php5-imagick, but I think it's from a different codebase. | 08:07 |
| dura | i'm learning 2 CMS's, maintain 4 servers including 2 lamps' learning css, php, and python, and i'm also a father and a consultant | 08:07 |
| dura | yeah when I try to apt it it tells me it's missing or another packages refers to it | 08:08 |
| infinity | It's in universe, do you have universe enabled | 08:08 |
| infinity | ? | 08:08 |
| infinity | It certainly works here. | 08:08 |
| dura | hmm let me check I thought I did | 08:10 |
| dura | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe | 08:10 |
| dura | Package php5-imagick is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 08:12 |
| dura | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 08:12 |
| dura | is only available from another source | 08:12 |
| infinity | Ahh, it's only in edgy. My bad. | 08:19 |
| dura | what's edgy? | 08:21 |
| dura | unstable? | 08:21 |
| infinity | Yeah, it's the release we're working on, due out in October. | 08:22 |
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| dura | nice | 08:29 |
| dura | how unstable is it? | 08:29 |
| dura | i've been thinking about trying to build a .deb for things like joomla, bitweaver and the like that would include all their requirements | 08:30 |
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| Netslayer | do the regular desktop cd images contain a "server" installation mode at the prompt? | 08:34 |
| Netslayer | or do i have to download the actual server image | 08:35 |
| fabbione | Netslayer: yes they do, but on CD there are no server packages or server kernel | 08:36 |
| fabbione | you will have to install the rest from archive.ubuntu.com | 08:36 |
| Netslayer | is that all automatic off the internet when i start the installation? | 08:36 |
| Netslayer | is there any other diff in a server vs desktop installation than just a GUI (kde/gnome)? for example default settings in confs, etc.. ? | 08:37 |
| dura | from what I see using both side by side, daily, server is more akin to Debian | 08:37 |
| Netslayer | so it is slightly different? | 08:38 |
| dura | stability and security is more important then latest and greatest | 08:38 |
| dura | in some aspects yes | 08:38 |
| dura | but it's still easy... | 08:38 |
| dura | imo | 08:38 |
| Netslayer | does amd64 bit ubuntu installs really restrict package availability? i'm coming from gentoo 64 so i'm a newb at it | 08:39 |
| dura | excellent documentaion, support, packag selection, etc. | 08:39 |
| dura | heh | 08:39 |
| dura | I'm on gentoo-amd64 right now | 08:39 |
| fabbione | Netslayer: it depends.. if you do a netinstall it's all automatic, but if you install from the desktop CD, no, you will need to install the other stuff manually | 08:39 |
| dura | it's like every thing else | 08:39 |
| dura | gentoo has things ubuntu doesn't, and ubuntu has things gentoo doesn't | 08:39 |
| fabbione | Netslayer: no there is no limitation. same packages are available for amd64 and i386 (modulo some restricted crap= | 08:39 |
| Netslayer | fabbione, auh cool | 08:40 |
| Netslayer | dura, i hope i dont find that out to be a problem | 08:40 |
| fabbione | for server they are exactly the same | 08:40 |
| dura | Netslayer: I haven't yet | 08:40 |
| Netslayer | fabbione, what's a net install? | 08:40 |
| dura | and I have isp-style postfix, two LAMP servers one using php4, the other 5 | 08:41 |
| fabbione | Netslayer: installing from the network | 08:41 |
| dura | Netslayer: like a Gentoo install | 08:41 |
| dura | only not as long | 08:41 |
| dura | lol | 08:41 |
| dura | it's like a Gentoo install with the base packages on cd and ready to install | 08:41 |
| Netslayer | is that a diff installer image i dl? | 08:41 |
| dura | no | 08:42 |
| Netslayer | i actually need to do a full LAMP install but i'm thinkin of doing a desktop install since i may have use for a gui on it | 08:43 |
| dura | It has a LAMP install option on boot | 08:43 |
| dura | you can also make use of X11 over ssh with x11-common | 08:43 |
| Netslayer | oh cool i'll have to check the boot flags then | 08:43 |
| dura | if you *need* a gui | 08:43 |
| dura | it boots to a frame buffer with the option right there | 08:43 |
| dura | down arrow, enter, off you go | 08:44 |
| Netslayer | well i may be using it as a mythfrontend, not sure yet so dont want to kill that possibility if i install server | 08:44 |
| dura | ahh yeah... | 08:44 |
| dura | i've used ubuntu for a server and it's fine imo | 08:44 |
| dura | just uses a bit more space/resources | 08:45 |
| Netslayer | dura, you talking ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop? | 08:45 |
| dura | desktop | 08:46 |
| dura | i've used it as a server | 08:46 |
| Netslayer | ya i may end up doing that, plus is i have a pressed cd right here :-P | 08:47 |
| dura | hehe | 08:50 |
| dura | I spent 14 hours on a hardened gentoo + selinux lamp install... | 08:50 |
| dura | got ready to load my site... | 08:50 |
| dura | hard drive died | 08:50 |
| Netslayer | dura, dude ouch O_o | 08:53 |
| dura | yeah... i wasn't very... happy... | 08:53 |
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| AviaX | hi | 02:21 |
| AviaX | ich habe mit dpkg bldsinn gemacht, knnte mir eventl jemand helfen? | 02:22 |
| AviaX | ah sorry, better in english here i think | 02:23 |
| AviaX | anybody available? | 02:23 |
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| TrioTorus | dries@adam:/Users$ sudo /etc/init.d/autofs stop | 02:41 |
| TrioTorus | Password: | 02:41 |
| TrioTorus | Stopping automounter: | 02:41 |
| TrioTorus | Couldn't stop automount for /net done. | 02:41 |
| TrioTorus | Anybody got an idea why this occurs? | 02:41 |
| TrioTorus | Is there another process that needs stopping first? | 02:42 |
| lionelp | TrioTorus: some process may lock this directory | 02:42 |
| lionelp | check with a lsof | 02:42 |
| TrioTorus | dries@adam:/Users$ lsof /net | 02:44 |
| TrioTorus | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() nfs file system /net/god/Volumes/G-RAID/production | 02:44 |
| TrioTorus | Output information may be incomplete. | 02:44 |
| lionelp | try to unmount /net/god/Volumes... manually | 02:46 |
| TrioTorus | ha, okay, that worked | 02:48 |
| TrioTorus | nice, thank you. | 02:48 |
| AviaX | hi anybody can help me, i killed my system, by removing a package with dpkg force-depends | 02:51 |
| lionelp | I do not think this a server related problem | 02:59 |
| lionelp | #ubuntu is a better place for that | 02:59 |
| AviaX | ah ok yes, thx | 03:01 |
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| AviaX | hi | 06:17 |
| AviaX | after a system crash, i reinstalled the server | 06:17 |
| AviaX | after installation, my computer cant boot | 06:17 |
| AviaX | failure finding boot device | 06:17 |
| AviaX | i have one hd | 06:18 |
| AviaX | i tried booting in rescue mode reinstalltin grub with grub-install /dev/hda | 06:18 |
| AviaX | but it doesnt help | 06:18 |
| AviaX | any idea? | 06:18 |
| AviaX | i used ubunutu-server cd 6.06 | 06:20 |
| dura | does the BIOS still see the hard drive? | 06:43 |
| AviaX | yes | 06:43 |
| AviaX | im online with knoppix at the moment, there the hd is accesable fine | 06:44 |
| AviaX | i also tried fixing it by chrooting from knoppix into my system | 06:44 |
| dura | hmmm | 06:44 |
| dura | when you reinstalled did you wipe the drive and re-partition? | 06:45 |
| AviaX | on the drive there are following partitions: hda1 for system, hda3 for data and hda5 for swap file (which is in an eytended partition | 06:45 |
| AviaX | no, first i tried to install into existing system, after that i formated hda1, cause i thaught maybe that was the failure | 06:46 |
| AviaX | but i didnt changed the partitions | 06:46 |
| AviaX | so with the partitiontable should be everthing fine | 06:48 |
| AviaX | any idea? | 06:49 |
| dura | maybe the partitions tables are messed up... | 06:57 |
| dura | heh | 06:58 |
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