=== mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-74-67-44-20.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-server === ToonArmy [n=chris@88-105-180-50.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === dura is now known as dura_junior === dura_junior is now known as dura [07:37] . [07:37] any life in here? [07:38] I have to build magickwand from scratch against PHP5 (which is installed) and I'm wondering if I do apt-get source for the PHP5 src... [07:44] To build an extension against php5, you want php5-dev installd. [07:44] Then you can use phpize and all that jazz. [07:45] You should be able to untar magickwand, run "phpize", then ./configure --with-magickwand=/usr [07:58] okay cool [07:58] still learning lamp [08:03] will there be a .deb for it soon by any chance? [08:04] No idea, never heard of it until just now. [08:06] it's imagemagick for php5 [08:06] Yeah, I see that. [08:06] Obviously, I read far enough to tell you how to use it. :) [08:06] i could ahve sworn I saw something in apt last night regarding imagemagick and php5 but... it's not there now lol [08:07] lol sorry [08:07] There's php5-imagick, but I think it's from a different codebase. [08:07] i'm learning 2 CMS's, maintain 4 servers including 2 lamps' learning css, php, and python, and i'm also a father and a consultant [08:08] yeah when I try to apt it it tells me it's missing or another packages refers to it [08:08] It's in universe, do you have universe enabled [08:08] ? [08:08] It certainly works here. [08:10] hmm let me check I thought I did [08:10] deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe [08:12] Package php5-imagick is not available, but is referred to by another package. [08:12] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [08:12] is only available from another source [08:19] Ahh, it's only in edgy. My bad. [08:21] what's edgy? [08:21] unstable? [08:22] Yeah, it's the release we're working on, due out in October. === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:29] nice [08:29] how unstable is it? [08:30] i've been thinking about trying to build a .deb for things like joomla, bitweaver and the like that would include all their requirements === Netslayer [n=chris@54.223.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:34] do the regular desktop cd images contain a "server" installation mode at the prompt? [08:35] or do i have to download the actual server image [08:36] Netslayer: yes they do, but on CD there are no server packages or server kernel [08:36] you will have to install the rest from archive.ubuntu.com [08:36] is that all automatic off the internet when i start the installation? [08:37] is there any other diff in a server vs desktop installation than just a GUI (kde/gnome)? for example default settings in confs, etc.. ? [08:37] from what I see using both side by side, daily, server is more akin to Debian [08:38] so it is slightly different? [08:38] stability and security is more important then latest and greatest [08:38] in some aspects yes [08:38] but it's still easy... [08:38] imo [08:39] does amd64 bit ubuntu installs really restrict package availability? i'm coming from gentoo 64 so i'm a newb at it [08:39] excellent documentaion, support, packag selection, etc. [08:39] heh [08:39] I'm on gentoo-amd64 right now [08:39] Netslayer: it depends.. if you do a netinstall it's all automatic, but if you install from the desktop CD, no, you will need to install the other stuff manually [08:39] it's like every thing else [08:39] gentoo has things ubuntu doesn't, and ubuntu has things gentoo doesn't [08:39] Netslayer: no there is no limitation. same packages are available for amd64 and i386 (modulo some restricted crap= [08:40] fabbione, auh cool [08:40] dura, i hope i dont find that out to be a problem [08:40] for server they are exactly the same [08:40] Netslayer: I haven't yet [08:40] fabbione, what's a net install? [08:41] and I have isp-style postfix, two LAMP servers one using php4, the other 5 [08:41] Netslayer: installing from the network [08:41] Netslayer: like a Gentoo install [08:41] only not as long [08:41] lol [08:41] it's like a Gentoo install with the base packages on cd and ready to install [08:41] is that a diff installer image i dl? [08:42] no [08:43] i actually need to do a full LAMP install but i'm thinkin of doing a desktop install since i may have use for a gui on it [08:43] It has a LAMP install option on boot [08:43] you can also make use of X11 over ssh with x11-common [08:43] oh cool i'll have to check the boot flags then [08:43] if you *need* a gui [08:43] it boots to a frame buffer with the option right there [08:44] down arrow, enter, off you go [08:44] well i may be using it as a mythfrontend, not sure yet so dont want to kill that possibility if i install server [08:44] ahh yeah... [08:44] i've used ubuntu for a server and it's fine imo [08:45] just uses a bit more space/resources [08:45] dura, you talking ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop? [08:46] desktop [08:46] i've used it as a server [08:47] ya i may end up doing that, plus is i have a pressed cd right here :-P [08:50] hehe [08:50] I spent 14 hours on a hardened gentoo + selinux lamp install... [08:50] got ready to load my site... [08:50] hard drive died [08:53] dura, dude ouch O_o [08:53] yeah... i wasn't very... happy... === yogurtthewise [n=yogurt@bb-87-81-167-77.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-server === thefish [n=thefish@unaffiliated/thefish] has joined #ubuntu-server === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-server === zmoog [n=zmoog@213.215.174.142] has joined #ubuntu-server === zmoog [n=zmoog@213.215.174.142] has left #ubuntu-server [] === AviaX [n=knoppix@62.214.213.135] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:21] hi [02:22] ich habe mit dpkg bldsinn gemacht, knnte mir eventl jemand helfen? [02:23] ah sorry, better in english here i think [02:23] anybody available? === TrioTorus [n=dries@213.219.155.103] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:41] dries@adam:/Users$ sudo /etc/init.d/autofs stop [02:41] Password: [02:41] Stopping automounter: [02:41] Couldn't stop automount for /net done. [02:41] Anybody got an idea why this occurs? [02:42] Is there another process that needs stopping first? [02:42] TrioTorus: some process may lock this directory [02:42] check with a lsof [02:44] dries@adam:/Users$ lsof /net [02:44] lsof: WARNING: can't stat() nfs file system /net/god/Volumes/G-RAID/production [02:44] Output information may be incomplete. [02:46] try to unmount /net/god/Volumes... manually [02:48] ha, okay, that worked [02:48] nice, thank you. [02:51] hi anybody can help me, i killed my system, by removing a package with dpkg force-depends [02:59] I do not think this a server related problem [02:59] #ubuntu is a better place for that [03:01] ah ok yes, thx === thefish_ [n=thefish@dsl-fixed-62-69-44-143.surfdsl.murphx.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === tmarble [n=tmarble@192.18.101.5] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-server === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-server === AviaX [n=knoppix@62.214.213.135] has joined #ubuntu-server [06:17] hi [06:17] after a system crash, i reinstalled the server [06:17] after installation, my computer cant boot [06:17] failure finding boot device [06:18] i have one hd [06:18] i tried booting in rescue mode reinstalltin grub with grub-install /dev/hda [06:18] but it doesnt help [06:18] any idea? [06:20] i used ubunutu-server cd 6.06 [06:43] does the BIOS still see the hard drive? [06:43] yes [06:44] im online with knoppix at the moment, there the hd is accesable fine [06:44] i also tried fixing it by chrooting from knoppix into my system [06:44] hmmm [06:45] when you reinstalled did you wipe the drive and re-partition? [06:45] on the drive there are following partitions: hda1 for system, hda3 for data and hda5 for swap file (which is in an eytended partition [06:46] no, first i tried to install into existing system, after that i formated hda1, cause i thaught maybe that was the failure [06:46] but i didnt changed the partitions [06:48] so with the partitiontable should be everthing fine [06:49] any idea? [06:57] maybe the partitions tables are messed up... 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