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| mbiebl | Keybuk, hi | 02:28 |
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| Keybuk | ello | 02:29 |
| mbiebl | I currently studying the code and noticed, that "pid file" does not yet have any effect. | 02:30 |
| mbiebl | init/job.c -> job_run_process always uses the pid returned from fork. | 02:31 |
| mbiebl | If job->pidfile is specified it should parse the given file for the pid file instead. | 02:33 |
| mbiebl | I also don't understand, why "pid file" can only be specified together with respawn. | 02:33 |
| Keybuk | right, it's not implemented | 02:34 |
| mbiebl | Imho it would also make sense together with exec. | 02:34 |
| Keybuk | was supposed to only make sense with daemon :p | 02:34 |
| mbiebl | Yeah, but a daemon can also be started with exec, or not? | 02:34 |
| Keybuk | yes | 02:34 |
| mbiebl | I also think, that a reload and maybe also a restart utility would be great. | 02:35 |
| Keybuk | there's no implementation for reload yet | 02:35 |
| mbiebl | It should also be possible to specify in the job description file a custom reload function. | 02:36 |
| Keybuk | probably yes | 02:37 |
| Keybuk | actions are in the todo somewhere | 02:37 |
| Keybuk | got to get events and jobs right first though | 02:37 |
| mbiebl | Sure ;-) | 02:37 |
| mbiebl | Oh, another thing, more from the packaging perspective: | 02:38 |
| mbiebl | in postinst you call kill directly. Maybe it would be safer to specify the complete path as kill is a bash builtin | 02:38 |
| mbiebl | iirc lintian also moans about that. | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | why would you need to do that? | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | what's wrong with the builtin? | 02:39 |
| mbiebl | They could behave differently and you don't notice as long as you run bash. | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | they'd at least behave consistently | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | it's /bin/sh | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | so kill must behave like POSIX kill | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | kill -TERM 1 is therefore legal | 02:40 |
| mbiebl | Is it guaranteed that the bash builtin kill behaves exactly as /bin/kill? | 02:40 |
| mbiebl | I'm not sure. | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | yes | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | what's bash got to do with it anyway? | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | /bin/sh on Ubuntu is dash | 02:40 |
| mbiebl | Well, if the builtin and /bin/kill behave exactly the same, then the point is moot. | 02:42 |
| Keybuk | indeed | 02:42 |
| mbiebl | You seem confident so I take this point as resolved ;-) | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | well, if a shell installs itself as /bin/sh and doesn't implement the POSIX-specified behaviour of kill, then that's a bug in that shell | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | if the user replaces /bin/sh with a non-POSIX shell like zsh, and complains; then the bug can just be rejected :p | 02:43 |
| mbiebl | As you already have feature freeze for edgy I was wondering if you also plan to migrate initscripts or parts of initscripts to upstart jobs. | 02:46 |
| Keybuk | not in edgy | 02:46 |
| Keybuk | beta freeze is only a few days away! :P | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | and have other bugs to be fixed for that | 02:48 |
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| mbiebl | yeah, bug fixing should always have top priority, even if it's not so much fun :-) | 02:55 |
| Keybuk | fortunately there don't seem to be any upstart bugs | 02:56 |
| mbiebl | That speaks for your coding skills | 03:01 |
| Keybuk | well, no major ones anywhere | 03:02 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | i'm on Knot 3 and i did an apt-get update | 11:19 |
| Admiral_Chicago | initscript is a package that is being updated | 11:19 |
| Admiral_Chicago | is that right? | 11:19 |
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| jbailey | Keybuk: The only two problems I had were 1) The upgrade also included glibc and I was still running the hack'd upstart. It wasn't taking signals, glibc locked in postinst. =) | 01:27 |
| jbailey | 2) In single user mode, terminal type seems to be not set correctly, and "reboot" command didn't work. | 01:27 |
| jbailey | Although from a command prompt now, C-M-Del seems to get registered correctly now. | 01:27 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: isn't glibc supposed to work unconfigured? :) | 01:31 |
| Keybuk | hmm, will test the single user mode thing | 01:32 |
| Keybuk | reboot should work even better than sysvinit (no pesky "unable to obtain runlevel" type thing) | 01:32 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: It does. It was that the postinst I think HUPs pid 1 or something like that. | 01:32 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: So I killall'd that, then dpkg --force-depends -i upstart*deb | 01:32 |
| jbailey | Reboot, finished upgrade ;) | 01:32 |
| Keybuk | oh, and you had the hack'd upstart that didn't work? :p | 01:32 |
| pepsiman | Keybuk: single user doesn't run bash | 01:33 |
| jbailey | Right. =) | 01:33 |
| Keybuk | pepsiman: err, yes? | 01:34 |
| pepsiman | it did in dapper | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | actually it ran sulogin in dapper ;) | 01:34 |
| pepsiman | yes, and sulogin looked at /etc/passwd in dapper | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | right | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | can probably hack that | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | or just use the real sulogin | 01:35 |
| pepsiman | bug 60965 | 01:35 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: Path of least resistance: use the real sulogin. | 01:35 |
| Keybuk | pepsiman: yes, I saw it | 01:35 |
| jbailey | Solve that problem sometime in +1 =) | 01:35 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: yeah, was planning to move that to sysvutils too, just hadn't got around to it yet | 01:35 |
| Keybuk | was gonna do that along with fixing check* | 01:35 |
| jbailey | Cool. | 01:36 |
| jbailey | So for ppc64, I think it's properly cooked now. I should test on the older kernel as well, I s'pose. | 01:37 |
| jbailey | Actually, I'll focus on getting my HD working with the stock edgy kernel so I don't have to roll my own. Easier. | 01:37 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: oh, I see why shutdown doesn't work in single-user mode | 01:39 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: Cool. Need something in Malone, or is this good enough? | 01:40 |
| Keybuk | not sure it's actually fixable :-/ | 01:40 |
| Keybuk | not for edgy, anyway | 01:40 |
| jbailey | Err... | 01:40 |
| jbailey | Need to have *some* way of getting back to a full state. | 01:40 |
| jbailey | exit didn't work either, IIRC | 01:40 |
| Keybuk | exit should work | 01:41 |
| Keybuk | it's making exit work that's causing shutdown to not work | 01:41 |
| Keybuk | oh, hmm | 01:41 |
| Keybuk | exit doesn't work either | 01:41 |
| Keybuk | meh | 01:41 |
| Keybuk | yes, bug me | 01:41 |
| jbailey | Two bugs or one? | 01:41 |
| Keybuk | only one of them will be fixable | 01:42 |
| Keybuk | reboot is more important, so I'll fix that | 01:42 |
| pepsiman | init: sulogin process (3353) killed by signal 9 | 01:44 |
| pepsiman | System halted. | 01:44 |
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| Keybuk | hmm? poweroff shouldn't get killed? | 01:47 |
| pepsiman | that was the 4th attempt at poweroff | 01:48 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: the reboot bug is that there's currently no way for upstart to tell the difference between sulogin being killed by a signal or the user typing "exit" | 01:48 |
| pepsiman | how did sysvinit tell the difference? | 01:49 |
| Keybuk | runlevel change | 01:49 |
| pepsiman | ah | 01:50 |
| Keybuk | it's a bug, or at least a lack of an implementation in upstart that causes this bug | 01:51 |
| Keybuk | but it's not something I can implement before Beta Freeze | 01:51 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: rewind a sec for me? what kills sulogin with a signal? | 01:51 |
| Keybuk | which is IN THREE DAYS TIME | 01:51 |
| Keybuk | PANIC!!!! | 01:51 |
| jbailey | Is that a sideeffect of runlevel change? | 01:51 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: sendsigs ;) | 01:51 |
| Keybuk | and killing sulogin forces a runlevel change, stopping the running reboot | 01:51 |
| jbailey | Oh. Weird design. | 01:51 |
| Keybuk | well, how would you have done it? | 01:52 |
| jbailey | I'm not sure. =) | 01:54 |
| Keybuk | I couldn't remember what happened with sysvinit if you ran telinit from the shutdown process :p | 01:54 |
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| theCore | upstart is so boring... there is barely any bugs to find :) | 02:37 |
| mbiebl | Keybuk: debian/control: system-services: Is there a reason why you explicitely depend on util-linux? | 02:41 |
| mbiebl | util-linux is essential, so it shouldn't be necessary to add this dep. | 02:41 |
| Keybuk | I don't remember, no | 02:45 |
| mbiebl | Would make one lintian error less. | 02:48 |
| Md | mbiebl: are there any news about the sysvinit split? | 02:49 |
| Keybuk | heh, I entirely got out of the habit of running lintian when I was maintaining dpkg | 02:53 |
| Keybuk | don't think I've ever used it since | 02:53 |
| mbiebl | Md: It's currently sitting in NEW. | 02:53 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: looks like there's already a bug for the single-user problem | 03:07 |
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