[03:14] <bddebian> Heya
[05:00] <knixtech> anyone have a template they use to make on the Handbook/edgytasks?
[05:31] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:31] <ogra> :)
[05:32] <bddebian> Heya sbalneav
[05:33] <LaserJock> hi guys
[05:33] <LaserJock> ogra: I uploaded a newer and improved edubuntu-menus today
[05:33] <LaserJock> I think this one will go ok
[05:33] <ogra> yay
[05:33] <ogra> adressed Kamions concerns ? 
[05:33] <LaserJock> yep
[05:34] <ogra> cool :)
[05:34] <LaserJock> even added a lintian override for the chmod 640 stuff
[05:34] <ogra> heh :)
[05:34] <LaserJock> renamed the groups
[05:35] <LaserJock> hah
[05:35] <ogra> lintian simply didnt like upstreams name 
[08:29] <RichEd> hi ogra ... how is it going in detroit ?
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi all. do i have to find pxelinux.0 somehwhere special? or should it be part of the install? i dont seem to ahve one :|
[09:27] <cbx33> mornin all
[09:27] <cbx33> ogra: supprised to see you here :p
[09:27] <RichEd> hello cbx33
[09:27] <cbx33> Hi RichEd 
[09:28] <RichEd> ogra's on detroit time ... and is head down in the ltsp hack fest ... so the nick is here but the keyboard is elsewhere
[09:28] <cbx33> hehehhe
[09:29] <RichEd> cbx33: When will you know about the Chairpersonship ? What's the decision process ?
[09:29] <cbx33> um....I think they need to vote at thenext meetin
[09:31] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: It's part of `syslinux'.
[09:31] <RichEd> And when's the meeting ? And what's your confidence level ?
[09:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, thanks, i'll look
[09:32] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: just out of my curiosity ... are you one of the people behind eady Ubuntu ?
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, 'behind' no. i just try and look cool ;)
[09:34] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm pretty sure the installer should have copied it when setting up chroots and configuring tftp.
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, i'v been having issues with the ltsp installer
[09:34] <cbx33> I'm pretty confident
[09:34] <cafuego> "issues"? :-)
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> installer not installing stuff :) i'm trying to work around them atm
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'installer' = ltsp-build-client
[09:35] <RichEd> cbx33: you busy there ... or am I in your ignore list ?
[09:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, i'm jsut heading out again, so hopefully catch you in 4.5 hours - 5 hours :|
[09:37] <cafuego> That'll be 10:30-11pm. I hope to be drunk or drinking by then!
[09:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, well wait a few minutes, and i'll join you then ;)
[09:37] <cbx33> RichEd: did you not get my reply
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl
 um....I think they need to vote at thenext meetin
 And when's the meeting ? And what's your confidence level ?
[09:39] <cbx33> RichEd: I have to organise themeeting soon, but I'm pretty confident,......I have an email to send to you....it's big....but just to let you know how things re over here
[09:39] <cbx33> I've been discussing the use of OSS tools with some people in southampton
[09:39] <cbx33> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=127#comments - Apparently I'm just another linux fan boy....
[09:43] <RichEd> Okay ... I'll tell you why the line of questioning ... I've got a guy in Ireland wanting to start with some Edubuntu side-by-side with MS in the local school(s). He's from the council : The "Connect" Project is an initiative of South Dublin Council.
[09:44] <RichEd> He is keen to work with us ... would you consider "twinning schools" for a broader project audience ?
[09:44] <cbx33> oooh.....that's an interesting idea
[09:44] <cbx33> RichEd: I'm very interetsed in that.....even if I don;t get chair of the panel
[09:45] <cbx33> heheh......
[09:45] <cbx33> :p
[09:45] <RichEd> I'll send you the email ... I raised your co-operation as a possibility ... and am waiting for him to bite ... read the mail, but wait for a next step from me before you engage.
[09:45] <cbx33> of course
[09:45] <cbx33> you got a sec for a pm?
[10:20] <highvoltage> arr
[10:29] <RichEd> cbx33: lost you there for a bit ... well i lost my adsl
[10:29] <RichEd> did you see my msg ?
[11:30] <pygi> morning everyone
[11:31] <highvoltage> mornign pygi
[11:31] <highvoltage> forgot to tell you, burned a dvd with libburn on sunday. works ok.
[11:31] <pygi> ah, you used that growisofs trick or?
[11:32] <pygi> and how exactly have you burned it? using libburner?
[11:34] <highvoltage> hmmm... I'm sure I have a text file called 'pygi' where I have exactly how I did it... just a sec
[11:34] <pygi> oki
[11:34] <RichEd> greetz highvoltage :)
[11:34] <highvoltage> might be on my home pc (that's where I burned it)
[11:35] <highvoltage> pygi: i followed the instructions that you gave me, that's what is in pygi.txt :)
[11:35] <highvoltage> RichEd: greetings
[11:35] <pygi> highvoltage: ah, ok :) that's the growisofs trick
[11:35] <pygi> highvoltage: would you mind checking md5 when you come home pls? :)
[11:36] <highvoltage> ok
[11:36] <pygi> thanks
[11:36] <pygi> we have one bug before the release, and I'm already hunting that bug for two days, can't fix it :-/
[11:36] <pygi> and I know it's trivial =)
[11:40] <pygi> who's willing to fix bugs here? :)
[11:53] <willvdl> woop
[12:03] <pygi> willvdl: ? :)
[12:04] <RichEd> cbx33: wassup dude you disappeared
[12:04] <pygi> cbx33: !!!
[12:04] <pygi> HI RichEd 
[12:05] <RichEd> hey mario
[12:33] <highvoltage> hi willvdl 
[12:33] <highvoltage> where does woop come from? hlk says it all the time too :)
[12:33] <highvoltage> (bbl)
[12:34] <willvdl> she got it from me I think.
[12:35] <RichEd> hello : wiki advice request : anyone who can guide me for a few questions ?
[12:37] <pygi> RichEd: shoot as always
[12:38] <RichEd> ta pygi  
[12:38] <pygi> "ta"? :=)
[12:38] <RichEd> what's the format preference:  wiki.edubuntu.com/education OR wiki.edubuntu.com/Education
[12:39] <RichEd> ta = thanks before I asked
[12:39] <pygi> the later one
[12:40] <RichEd> okay lets go out to a pvt window ... need to paste a chunk ->
[12:45] <RichEd> pygi: ping ... questions in private window ... answer at your leisure ... I'm back in 10-15 mins
[12:47] <pygi> RichEd: I'm there, and I'm responding :)
[12:48] <RichEd> okay ... i'll wait ... no message yet ... hope you are identified ?
[12:50] <pygi> RichEd: ergh, right
[12:51] <pygi> RichEd: sorry, forgot :)
[12:52] <RichEd> now coming through load & clear :)
[12:58] <jsgotangco> good evening all!
[01:05] <ogra> jsgotangco, morning :)
[01:05] <jsgotangco> RichEd: you got something from our gnome? heh
[01:09] <RichEd> jsgotangco: ? our gnome ?
[01:09] <jsgotangco> our tiny newsbit yestereday?
[01:28] <knixtech> morning all
[01:28] <RichEd> jsgotangco: still don't know what you mean by our gnome ?
[01:29] <cbx33> I'm back
[01:29] <cbx33> for lunch
[01:30] <knixtech> anyone have a template for the tasks page I could use?
[01:30] <cbx33> hi pygi 
[01:33] <pygi> hi cbx33, how are you?
[01:33] <cbx33> yeh i'm good
[01:34] <pygi> glad to hear :)
[01:34] <cbx33> you?
[01:34] <pygi> tired of my lack of knowledge to fix what in the end will be trivial =)
[01:35] <cbx33> whats broken?
[01:35] <pygi> cbx33: one bug in libisofs, I can't fix it :) Two days working on it already
[01:36] <cbx33> :(
[01:36] <cbx33> whats it doing
[01:36] <pygi> well, you cant generate iso with just joliet, or iso is broken
[01:36] <cbx33> what's wrong with the iso?
[01:36] <pygi> if you generate  rockridge+joliet then it works :-/
[01:36] <pygi> cbx33: well, it's broken ^_^
[01:36] <cbx33> how
[01:37] <pygi> files/dirs are broken :)
[01:37] <cbx33> eeek
[01:37] <cbx33> how come
[01:37] <cbx33> hi jono 
[01:41] <pygi> cbx33: don't ask me :) If I would knew what causes it, I'd fix it :)
[01:53] <cbx33> hehe
[01:54] <pygi> cbx33: just you laugh ;)
[01:54] <pygi> RichEd: poke, awake pls:)
[01:58] <RichEd> hi pygi : busy preparing for a review with the boss ... quick item ?
[01:58] <jsgotangco> uh rain
[02:02] <pygi> RichEd: well, continue the window conversation? :)
[02:02] <pygi> jsgotangco: hey ho jsgotangco ^_^
[02:02] <RichEd> in 2 mins pygi 
[02:02] <jsgotangco> pygi: hi!
[02:02] <jsgotangco> how are you?
[02:03] <pygi> RichEd: sure, whatever you want
[02:03] <pygi> jsgotangco: quite good, what about you? :)
[02:04] <jsgotangco> im good too its raining hard outside though heh
[02:04] <jsgotangco> pretty busy as well
[02:04] <pygi> heh, everyone is busy :)
[02:04] <jsgotangco> fighting for my software rights at work!
[02:05] <pygi> jsgotangco: I haven't got my answer from you tommorow, hehe :)
[02:05] <pygi> jsgotangco: uh, whats the issue?
[02:05] <jsgotangco> im forced to used IE at work
[02:05] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:09] <pygi> jsgotangco: eh :P
[02:09] <pygi> jsgotangco: so where's my answer? :)
[02:09] <jsgotangco> answer to what?
[02:10] <Petaris> jsgotangco: You could use portable firefox :)
[02:10] <jsgotangco> Petaris: yeah, ive got to do it
[02:10] <jsgotangco> except the proxy seems to only want IE
[02:10] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:11] <Petaris> hrm
[02:11] <Petaris> how would a proxy care?
[02:11] <jsgotangco> thats what i would like to know myself
[02:11] <jsgotangco> hence they will report tomorrow ;)
[02:11] <Petaris> unless of course its a microshaft product
[02:11] <pygi> jsgotangco: why have you said "mighty pygi" :)
[02:11] <jsgotangco> i wont be surprised if its ISA Server
[02:11] <Petaris> heh
[02:12] <jsgotangco> pygi: oh its probably because i will have to bug you soon on gtk stuff heh
[02:12] <jsgotangco> pygi: like if its possible to have something like totem, epiphany in one gtk app
[02:13] <pygi> jsgotangco: lol, I knew there was something behind that statement, lol :)
[02:13] <jsgotangco> or something that does like that
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> how can i discover what the ltsp installer is doing? i cant get clients booting, and i'm wondering where i need to look for info on configing the location of pxelinux.0
[03:10] <Petaris> Kamping_Kaiser: Careful it doesn't poke back
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Petaris, if it pokes like it serves files, i have nothing to worry about but timeouts ;)
[03:12] <Petaris> haha
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[03:13] <Petaris> hrm
[03:13] <Petaris> Tetris for the ipod
[03:13] <Petaris> The end of productivity is neigh
[03:13] <Petaris> haha
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[03:14] <knixtech> anyone on here part of the doc team?
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> i need to know /before/ next mon if i can get netbooting happening :( its not working still :(
[03:15] <pygi> highvoltage: poke?
[03:17] <highvoltage> pygi: ouch
[03:18] <pygi> highvoltage: what media have you used? +R, +RW, -R or -RW?
[03:19] <jsgotangco> pygi: so you haven't answered my question too ;)
[03:20] <pygi> jsgotangco: ^_^
[03:20] <jsgotangco> :D
[03:20] <jsgotangco> pygi: like if its possible to have something like totem, epiphany in one gtk app
[03:20] <jsgotangco> or something hackable like hta
[03:20] <pygi> jsgotangco: I saw that :) What exactly do you want to acomplish, lol? I'm not sure I understand
[03:20] <jsgotangco> pygi: well something like encarta i guess
[03:22] <pygi> jsgotangco: if they have their respective libs, then I don't see why not
[03:22] <highvoltage> pygi: I can't remember, it must've been either +R, or -R
[03:22] <pygi> highvoltage: well, that's kinda important :)
[03:22] <highvoltage> pygi: I can check that too when I get home
[03:22] <pygi> highvoltage: oki, that and MD5 would be great :)
[03:23] <highvoltage> pygi: well, those discs were a Christmas gift so I don't have an idea what they are :)
[03:23] <pygi> ^_^
[03:23] <pygi> I assume it's -R, but I can't be sure :)
[03:23] <willvdl> highvoltage, power cut...haven't seen one of those in a while
[03:23] <highvoltage> willvdl: where?
[03:24] <highvoltage> willvdl: somerset west?
[03:24] <willvdl> uhuh
[03:24] <highvoltage> was fine here in newlands though. I hope it's not starting again :/
[03:25] <willvdl> :|
[03:25] <willvdl> normally this would mean I would go home
[03:25] <willvdl> but then I just realised, I am home...
[03:26] <willvdl> ah back on
[03:43] <bddebian> Howdy folks
[03:46] <pygi> howdy bddebian 
[03:47] <bddebian> Heya pygi
[03:56] <TeePOG> afternoon all
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah... edgy ltsp server=teh borked
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> dapper seems to be installing great
[04:00] <TeePOG> thanks for sharing, Kamping_Kaiser... I was about to upgrade my ltsp server to edgy
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. hope it helps :|
[04:01] <TeePOG> no worries.... only thing i'm missing is the amazing Sabayon ... me keeps crossing fingers for a backport
[04:03] <TeePOG> lol, know the feeling
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[04:09] <TeePOG> hi ogra!
[04:11] <cbx33> hey ogra 
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi ogra 
[04:12] <ogra> hi and bye ...
[04:12] <cbx33> heheh
[04:12] <cbx33> bye dude
[04:12] <cbx33> you coming home
[04:12] <ogra> yep
[04:12] <cbx33> ooooh yay
[04:12] <cbx33> we've missed ya bud ;)
[04:13] <ogra> cbx33, we'll need to talk about the artwork ... i had some feedback here 
[04:13] <cbx33> bad?
[04:17] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:17] <jsgotangco> don't be so hard on yourself there's no such thing as bad art
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ltsp-manager wont launch :( damn missing file
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> but oh well. bedtime
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all
[04:22] <knixtech> nighty night, dont let the bed bugz bite
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. later mate
[04:28] <cbx33> jsgotangco: by the look of the statement above it's gonna be negative ;)
[04:28] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:33] <RichEd> rodarvus: did you get an email done for me ?
[04:33] <rodarvus> almost
[04:33] <rodarvus> last part is tricky
[04:34] <RichEd> okay :)
[04:34] <rodarvus> (specfically, "web site and infrastructure")
[04:34] <rodarvus> I hadn't seen this part in advance
[04:34] <rodarvus> and am trying to figure it out
[04:35] <RichEd> don't worry about that for specifics now ... mark goes through my 1st draft today ... we identify what he actually wants ... and then I get 2 weeks to focus it
[04:37] <rodarvus> ok, I'll send what I have now, and resend the rest in a few minutes, when its finished
[04:37] <rodarvus> done
[04:38] <RichEd> thanks ... mark is reading my 32 page ... give it a scan will you ? it's changed a lot in the last hour
[04:39] <rodarvus> I've seen a version from about 30 minutes ago, let me reread it
[04:39] <jsgotangco> hey sabdfl
[04:40] <jsgotangco> 32pages from RichEd must be hard for the eyes
[04:40] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! What's happening with ogra? I haven't seen him here for many days
[04:40] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: not with all the pictures he has in there :)
[04:40] <RichEd> 32 is a concept ... not a number :)
[04:40] <rodarvus> paolob-parroquia, ogra is in a LTSP hackfest this week
[04:41] <jsgotangco> he was at an ltsp hackfest
[04:41] <rodarvus> well, yes, was :)
[04:41] <rodarvus> he will be back tomorrow, likely
[04:41] <paolob-parroquia> rodarvus, jsgotangco, when should be back?
[04:41] <paolob-parroquia> rodarvus, ah, ok
[04:41] <jsgotangco> he just quite irc almost 10 minutes ago, about to go on his plane
[04:42] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: pretty pictures i hope heh
[04:43] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: we can only hope ;)
[04:44] <jsgotangco> heh in other news, the raw footage of codebreakers is coming my way
[04:44] <jsgotangco> im told its a ton of cc licensed stuff
[04:44] <jsgotangco> that can be remixed and mashed
[04:44] <highvoltage> ooh
[04:44] <jsgotangco> although it must be in betacam format or something that broadcast-only media
[04:45] <jsgotangco> you never know it might have a goldmine like rms picking his nose or something hah
[05:03] <highvoltage> hey willvdl 
[05:03] <willvdl> hey
[05:03] <willvdl> got a funny story for you
[05:03] <highvoltage> did the power behave itself the rest of the afternoon?
[05:03] <willvdl> one sec
[05:03] <highvoltage> ok
[05:11] <DEINOS> w up ?
[05:11] <knixtech> DEINOS, how did you make out?
[05:11] <DEINOS> i reinstall everything
[05:12] <DEINOS> now im gona make the boot disks
[05:12] <knixtech> dhcp work?
[05:12] <DEINOS> im going to buy an amd athon 64 to do this job
[05:12] <knixtech> lol
[05:12] <DEINOS> i think yes , 
[05:12] <knixtech> nice
[05:13] <DEINOS> hey what is the best way to boot by lan ?
[05:13] <DEINOS> pxe or otherboot ?
[05:13] <knixtech> pxe
[05:13] <DEINOS> can u explain me how i o that ?
[05:13] <knixtech> works amazing if everything is setup correctly
[05:13] <DEINOS> get rom in rom o matic ? then i configure to boot by 192.168.1.2
[05:13] <knixtech> you need the dhcp server running on edubuntu,  the thin client boots to the server
[05:14] <DEINOS> ok
[05:14] <knixtech> the nic card needs to be the first bootable device
[05:14] <knixtech> on the client side
[05:14] <DEINOS> so how i do to see what services are runig ?
[05:14] <DEINOS> on the server machinhe
[05:14] <DEINOS> im a noob
[05:15] <DEINOS> so how i do to see what services are runig ?
[05:17] <knixtech> DEINOS, sys - admin - system monitor
[05:17] <DEINOS> i do that
[05:17] <knixtech> DEINOS, its quite ok, we were n00bs one time
[05:17] <Petaris> DEINOS: ps -A
[05:17] <DEINOS> and the thcp is not there
[05:17] <knixtech> do this
[05:17] <DEINOS> ok
[05:18] <knixtech> sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd3-server status
[05:18] <DEINOS> ps -A means all process ?
[05:18] <knixtech> ya
[05:18] <DEINOS> hum 
[05:18] <Petaris> ps -A | grep dhcp
[05:18] <Petaris> or ps -aux | grep dhcp for more details
[05:19] <knixtech> Petaris, ty
[05:19] <Petaris> np
[05:20] <knixtech> Petaris, or 'top' right?
[05:20] <Petaris> sure, you could use top
[05:20] <Petaris> that will tell you how much mem and cpu its eating
[05:20] <knixtech> ya, 
[05:21] <DEINOS> root@edubuntu:/# /etc/init.d/dhcpd3-server status
[05:21] <DEINOS> bash: /etc/init.d/dhcpd3-server: No such file or directory
[05:21] <DEINOS> hum 
[05:21] <knixtech> take out the pa and d
[05:22] <knixtech> so sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start
[05:22] <DEINOS> itfail to start
[05:23] <DEINOS> im gona see the conf
[05:23] <knixtech> ya
[05:23] <knixtech> its your config
[05:23] <knixtech> in your dhcp.conf
[05:24] <cbx33> hey all
[05:24] <cbx33> hi knixtech did you wnt somting?
[05:25] <knixtech> i did, but it has been taken care of, so ty
[05:25] <cbx33> sorry knixtech 
[05:25] <knixtech> cbx33, quite ok ^_^
[05:25] <knixtech> were all family here, hehe
[05:25] <cbx33> heheh
[05:27] <knixtech> DEINOS, what is your email? Ill email you my fresh dhcp3.conf
[05:28] <DEINOS> the dhcpd conf is in the init.d/dhcp3-server ?
[05:28] <DEINOS> deinos@ig.com.br
[05:28] <knixtech> nope
[05:28] <DEINOS> or denatus@ig.com.br
[05:28] <knixtech> its, /etc/dhcp3
[05:28] <knixtech> kk
[05:28] <DEINOS> hum
[05:28] <DEINOS> lol
[05:28] <DEINOS> im a dumb
[05:29] <knixtech> DEINOS, no your not
[05:29] <knixtech> just replace your .conf with mine ok?
[05:30] <DEINOS> ok
[05:30] <cbx33> DEINOS, some of this stuff takes a while the first time round
[05:30] <knixtech> cbx33, exactly
[05:30] <knixtech> DEINOS, sent
[05:30] <knixtech> DEINOS, once you do it a few times, it will become much easier
[05:32] <knixtech> hello neurogeek 
[05:32] <neurogeek> hello knixtech, how are you?
[05:32] <DEINOS> i hope soo
[05:32] <knixtech> i have had better days
[05:32] <knixtech> lol
[05:32] <knixtech> DEINOS, it will
[05:33] <DEINOS> this is an test if works fine im gona instal this ltsp on an athlon 64 
[05:34] <knixtech> nice
[05:34] <knixtech> make sure on the thin client side, that you boot directly to the edubuntu server
[05:35] <DEINOS> what is the command to rename ?
[05:35] <knixtech> cp
[05:36] <knixtech> cp dhcp.conf dhcp.conf.backup
[05:36] <knixtech> cp = copy
[05:37] <DEINOS> hum
[05:37] <knixtech> ?
[05:39] <DEINOS> dell comand ?
[05:39] <knixtech> dell?
[05:39] <DEINOS> delete ?
[05:39] <knixtech> rm
[05:39] <DEINOS> this distro 
[05:39] <knixtech> delete = rm
[05:40] <knixtech> you want to delte a file right?
[05:40] <DEINOS> y 
[05:40] <knixtech> what file?
[05:40] <DEINOS> a conf.old 
[05:41] <knixtech> so then do rm conf.old
[05:41] <knixtech> sudo rm conf.old
[05:41] <DEINOS> server fail
[05:42] <DEINOS> my machine ip is 192.168.1.2
[05:42] <DEINOS> i have activated the root acount
[05:42] <knixtech> then your going to have to change it to the dhcp.conf or make your machine like, 192.168.0.3
[05:42] <knixtech> orsomething on that scheme
[05:43] <knixtech> make it 0.2
[05:43] <DEINOS> but my router is on 192.168.1.1
[05:43] <DEINOS> and dont have dhcp runing on it
[05:44] <DEINOS> so i configure dhcp to 1.2 ?
[05:44] <knixtech> ok, then change the op scheme in dhcp.conf
[05:44] <knixtech> ip*
[05:44] <knixtech> got me?
[05:45] <DEINOS> more or less
[05:45] <DEINOS> op scheme ?
[05:45] <knixtech> ip* scheme
[05:46] <DEINOS> so i put my conf to work on 192.168.1.xxx ? thas is right ?
[05:46] <knixtech> ya
[05:46] <DEINOS> hum 
[05:46] <DEINOS> im gona meke it now
[05:46] <knixtech> hum?  are you humming
[05:46] <knixtech> kk
[05:46] <DEINOS> hum , im smoking
[05:46] <DEINOS> kk
[05:47] <knixtech> news to me, ^_^
[05:47] <DEINOS> ok
[05:47] <knixtech> DEINOS, your from brazil right?
[05:48] <DEINOS> y
[05:48] <knixtech> sweet
[05:48] <DEINOS> sorry for my very bad english ok
[05:48] <knixtech> its ok
[05:49] <DEINOS> so subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[05:49] <DEINOS>   range 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.20;  ?
[05:49] <knixtech> sure
[05:49] <knixtech> try it
[05:49] <DEINOS> ok
[05:49] <knixtech> netmask might be 255.255.248.0
[05:50] <knixtech> if it fails try that
[05:50] <knixtech> brb, going to smoke
[05:50] <knixtech> glhf = good luck have fun
[05:52] <DEINOS> fail
[05:55] <DEINOS> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[05:55] <DEINOS>   range 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.20;
[05:55] <DEINOS> 10 to 20 ?
[05:55] <DEINOS> hhhhheeeeeeelllllpppppp please
[05:56] <cbx33> sabdfl was here?
[05:56] <DEINOS> im trying to configure my dhcp 
[05:56] <DEINOS> can u help ?
[05:57] <cbx33> I can try
[05:57] <cbx33> though it's not my strong point
[05:57] <DEINOS> ok
[05:59] <cbx33> what's wrong
[05:59] <cbx33> are there no logs giving you more information?
[05:59] <knixtech> DEINOS, make your ip address on your sewrver 192.168.1.254
[05:59] <DEINOS> ok im gona d thid
[05:59] <knixtech> cbx33, nice approach there, i like that
[06:00] <cbx33> knixtech, in what way ? 
[06:00] <cbx33> :p
[06:00] <knixtech> cbx33, checking the logs, i always forget that
[06:00] <knixtech> ;)
[06:00] <cbx33> heheh
[06:09] <cbx33> hey pygi just the man I was looking for
[06:09] <cbx33> I've been pulling my hair out with this one my friend
[06:09] <cbx33> got time for one little question?
[06:14] <knixtech> DEINOS, hows it going?
[06:14] <cbx33> it's ok
[06:14] <cbx33> I found it out
[06:18] <knixtech> cbx33, what was the beef?
[06:18] <cbx33> oh, it was a python query
[06:18] <cbx33> was having trouble understanding someones coe, but I figured it out now
[06:18] <cbx33> I was being stupid
[06:18] <cbx33> ;)
[06:18] <knixtech> cbx33, gotcha, i am going to learn that real soon
[06:18] <cbx33> python rocks
[06:18] <knixtech> ^_^
[06:18] <cbx33> doing graphical stuff in python is sooooo easy
[06:18] <knixtech> really
[06:18] <cbx33> I guess he didn't solve it then :(
[06:19] <knixtech> how did you learn it?
[06:19] <cbx33> knixtech, python gtk is soo nice
[06:19] <cbx33> well....pygi sent me three small exercises
[06:19] <cbx33> which I'm sure I could pass onto you
[06:19] <cbx33> I rea dthe python tutorial on their website
[06:19] <knixtech> please do , 3@knixtech.com
[06:19] <cbx33> and then I started programming my first graphical app
[06:19] <knixtech> sweet
[06:19] <cbx33> which is now in the ubuntu universe
[06:19] <cbx33> in edgy 
[06:19] <cbx33> it's not in dapper
[06:19] <knixtech> so the 3 gthings he sent you helped you?,   wow
[06:19] <cbx33> called gisomount
[06:20] <cbx33> they were so simple but they gave me what I needed
[06:20] <knixtech> graphical mouting?
[06:20] <cbx33> I can tell you one now
[06:20] <cbx33> yes
[06:20] <knixtech> nice
[06:20] <cbx33> mount iso images
[06:20] <knixtech> wow
[06:20] <cbx33> in a nice graphical gui
[06:20] <cbx33> calculate md5sums
[06:20] <knixtech> could you email me the 3 please
[06:20] <cbx33> it may have been 2
[06:21] <knixtech> thats fine, will it get me off the ground?
[06:21] <cbx33> the first was.... write a piece of code which takes a string and reverses it
[06:21] <cbx33> yes
[06:21] <knixtech> nice
[06:21] <knixtech> im assuming you knew code before that?
[06:21] <cbx33> yes
[06:21] <knixtech> ack
[06:22] <cbx33> knixtech, http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=58
[06:22] <knixtech> ty
[06:22] <knixtech> DEINOS, and??????
[06:22] <DEINOS> fail
[06:23] <DEINOS> my ip is now 192.bla.bla.254
[06:23] <knixtech> kk
[06:23] <knixtech> and the conf says?
[06:23] <cbx33> so, yeh i did know a little coding before ;)
[06:23] <DEINOS> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[06:23] <DEINOS>   range 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.20;
[06:24] <knixtech> cbx33, wow
[06:24] <cbx33> heheh
[06:24] <knixtech> DEINOS, netmask to 255.255.248.0
[06:24] <knixtech> so what are the 2 things?
[06:24] <DEINOS> when i put 255.255.248.0 give me an error 
[06:24] <DEINOS> wait
[06:25] <cbx33> DENIOS what ip range are you trying to do
[06:25] <cbx33> the netmask should only be 255.255.255.0 shuldn't it?
[06:25] <DEINOS> Configuration file errors encountered -- exiting
[06:25] <DEINOS> dhcpd self-test failed. Please fix the config file.
[06:25] <DEINOS> The error was:
[06:25] <DEINOS> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.3
[06:25] <DEINOS> Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium.
[06:25] <DEINOS> All rights reserved.
[06:25] <DEINOS> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[06:25] <DEINOS> /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf line 36: subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.248.0: bad subnet number/mask combination.
[06:25] <DEINOS> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.248.0
[06:25] <DEINOS>                                        ^
[06:25] <DEINOS> Configuration file errors encountered -- exiting
[06:25] <knixtech> ok then 255 then
[06:25] <knixtech> my bad
[06:25] <DEINOS> hum
[06:25] <knixtech> hum?
[06:26] <knixtech> ^_^
[06:26] <DEINOS> huming again ?
[06:26] <knixtech> hahahahaha
[06:27] <knixtech> restart it with the right subnet and see what the logs say aka - cbx33 
[06:27] <DEINOS> ok
[06:27] <DEINOS> fail
[06:27] <pygi> cbx33: how may I help you?
[06:28] <knixtech> DEINOS, look on the wiki, it shows you how to do everything
[06:29] <DEINOS> in the UBUNTU LTSP quick install guide ?
[06:29] <cbx33> pygi, all fixed
[06:29] <cbx33> I was getting confused
[06:29] <DEINOS> im too
[06:29] <knixtech> DEINOS, not sure
[06:29] <knixtech> but it is on the site
[06:29] <cbx33> pygi, got a sec in pm?
[06:30] <DEINOS> i folow his instructions but i cant put this up
[06:30] <cbx33> DEINOS, do the logs say anything now?
[06:31] <DEINOS> where are the log ? 
[06:31] <knixtech> cbx33, ^_^
[06:31] <knixtech> var/log
[06:31] <DEINOS> hum im gona see 
[06:32] <DEINOS> may samba conflict whit dhcp ?
[06:32] <knixtech> hey DEINOS 
[06:32] <cbx33> unlikely.....
[06:33] <cbx33> do you already have a DHCP server on this network?
[06:33] <DEINOS> me
[06:33] <DEINOS> no
[06:33] <knixtech> www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[06:33] <knixtech> there ya go
[06:33] <knixtech> robbie found it
[06:33] <cbx33> knixtech, thought you'd already done that ;)
[06:33] <knixtech> w00t w00t
[06:33] <knixtech> cbx33, i have
[06:33] <cbx33> hehe
[06:34] <knixtech> cbx33, you mean setup the server and all?
[06:34] <cbx33> no....show DEINOS that page
[06:34] <knixtech> o
[06:34] <knixtech> no i didnt
[06:34] <knixtech> ^_^
[06:34] <willvdl> you just did? :P
[06:34] <knixtech> DEINOS, are you using 2 nic cards
[06:34] <cbx33> no earlier willvdl :)
[06:35] <cbx33> willvdl, any progress on ESA?
[06:35] <DEINOS> no , just 1
[06:35] <DEINOS> i need 2
[06:35] <knixtech> that might be your issue
[06:35] <cbx33> knixtech, should work with one
[06:35] <willvdl> yes. bit slow as my NEPAD stuff got preference over the past two days
[06:35] <cbx33> heh
[06:35] <cbx33> willvdl, that's fine....not pressuring just asking ;)
[06:35] <knixtech> ya but he is trying to enable dhcpd on the same nice that is recieving it
[06:35] <cbx33> oh
[06:35] <pygi> cbx33: ofcourse
[06:36] <cbx33> yes that will cause problems
[06:36] <willvdl> going to draft an idea tonight for comment
[06:36] <DEINOS> that is the problem ?
[06:36] <DEINOS> hum
[06:36] <knixtech> DEINOS, thats tht only doffernce betwwen yours and my setup
[06:37] <DEINOS> so ask me something , this distro recognise the other nic if i put in the pc
[06:37] <knixtech> yup
[06:37] <cbx33> DEINOS, should do
[06:37] <DEINOS> ok i come back son ok , im gona put the other nic here 
[06:37] <knixtech> kk
[06:38] <DEINOS> so it wil be 1 for router and other for dhcp 
[06:38] <willvdl> cbx33, have you ever come across an actual template for use cases?
[06:38] <cbx33> willvdl, no
[06:38] <cbx33> is that holding us up?
[06:38] <willvdl> not too sure there is such a thing actually
[06:38] <knixtech> ya
[06:38] <knixtech> DEINOS, yes
[06:38] <DEINOS> ok 
[06:38] <willvdl> it was kinda. just wanted to do things right
[06:39] <DEINOS> i came soon
[06:39] <willvdl> looks like we might forge the way
[06:39] <cbx33> heheh
[06:39] <willvdl> he went soon too
[06:40] <cbx33> I think he meant
[06:40] <cbx33> he'll be back soon
[06:40] <willvdl> I'll guess we'll know when he comes back :P
[06:41] <willvdl> urk. got to move a washing machine quickly. brb
[06:41] <knixtech> i came soon too,,,, ^_^
[06:56] <DEINOS> im back
[06:57] <DEINOS> im gona get some food and came again 
[06:57] <DEINOS> knixtech ?
[06:58] <DEINOS> clear
[07:05] <knixtech> DEINOS, 
[07:10] <knixtech> cbx33, is it worth buying a book on python?
[07:14] <Petaris> knixtech: The man or the programming language?
[07:14] <Petaris> ;p
[07:15] <knixtech> prog lang
[07:16] <knixtech> gotta go to college, be on later
[07:27] <cbx33> ping pygi 
[07:28] <cbx33> brb
[08:04] <pygi> wb LaserJock ;)
[08:04] <willvdl> did you get your visa?
[08:05] <pygi> willvdl: lol, I haven't even applied yet ^_^ I'll do so when I am sure that I get sponsorship :) But it's good now that I know I need only one day for visa
[08:05] <willvdl> ah
[08:06] <DEINOS> yauh
[08:06] <willvdl> us dodgy third-worlders need longer
[08:06] <DEINOS> knixtech 
[08:06] <DEINOS> can help now ?
[08:06] <DEINOS> :)
[08:07] <LaserJock> hi pygi 
[08:07] <DEINOS> anione can help me to conf my dhcp ?
[08:07] <DEINOS> pygi ?
[08:08] <LaserJock> I'm not sure that you really  need to do much
[08:08] <DEINOS> why ?
[08:08] <LaserJock> it should be more or less automatic
[08:09] <pygi> DEINOS: what exactly is the problem?
[08:09] <DEINOS> hum , but last time i try toi start dhcp i get fail mesage
[08:09] <pygi> DEINOS: sudo :)
[08:10] <DEINOS> i trying to make my LTSP server work , but lats time im trying to make it whit just 1 nic , and i cant start my dhcp , now i have instaled another nic 
[08:11] <DEINOS> dont need more sudo , i have activated the root acount
[08:11] <DEINOS> sudo everytime sucks
[08:11] <DEINOS> ;)
[08:13] <DEINOS> so now i have to conf my dhcp in 192.168.0.1 and my other nic to 192.168.1.1 ( gateway to net router) 
[08:16] <DEINO1> im back
[08:17] <DEINO1> what i do to start dhcp ?
[08:18] <LaserJock> you should just restart dhcp
[08:18] <DEINO1> what is the command line please !
[08:18] <LaserJock>  /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart or something like that
[08:20] <DEINO1> fail again
[08:20] <cbx33> LaserJock, !!!
[08:21] <LaserJock> DEINO1: I really don't know what you're trying to do
[08:22] <DEINO1> no
[08:24] <DEINO1> folowinhg the quick instal guide , i have to : install ltsp , build a client env. and later upate the ssh keys !
[08:25] <DEINO1> an then conf the dhcp
[08:25] <DEINO1> that is right ?
[08:29] <cbx33> how are you LaserJock 
[08:30] <DEINO1> laserjock can u help me ?
[08:31] <LaserJock> DEINO1: that looks right
[08:31] <LaserJock> cbx33: argg, busy
[08:31] <cbx33> sory L
[08:32] <LaserJock> np
[08:33] <DEINO1> so i do that , and now i dont know why my dhcp dont start
[08:34] <LaserJock> DEINO1: all I can think of is that something is wrong with your dhcp configuration
[08:34] <LaserJock> unfortunately I've never run dhcp so I don't know what it really *should* be
[08:35] <DEINO1> im using 1 nic 192.168.0.1 and other nic to 192.168.1.2 , the defalt dhcp conf is pointed to 192.168.0.1
[08:36] <DEINO1> the ip 192.168.1.2 is from my server to my router gateway 192.168.1.1 and the other nic to dhcp server
[08:36] <DEINO1> lkk
[08:37] <LaserJock> and why did you put in the other NIC ?
[08:38] <DEINOS> anyone can help ???????
[08:38] <DEINOS> i think that i now what is the problem , eth0 and eth1
[08:42] <DEINOS> knixtech told me to put , he think thats is my problem , make the server dhcp , and my router work in same ip
[08:42] <DEINOS> range
[08:44] <DEINOS> im gona call some pro to help me to conf this thing
[08:44] <DEINOS> bye guis , i came later 
[09:04] <ninety> Hello, is anybody here?
[09:05] <ninety> hello hello?
[09:07] <ninety> When are there people here? Anyway, I'm trying to figure out whether Edubuntu is recommended for computers that will be used mainly by kids, in addition to school computers
[09:08] <ninety> I'm going to install Linux on a computer that got completely by spyware and crap circa 2003, and I suspect that it will mainly be used by my 6yo brother
[09:15] <ninety> would edubuntu be especially good for him, or is it tweaked for the classroom, rather than for little kids?
[09:18] <Rondom> ninety: both
[09:19] <Rondom> there are apps for both younger and older children
[09:20] <Rondom> ninety: I bet your brother will like gcompris, if I remember it correctly the gcopmris-homepage has a lot of screenshots
[09:20] <Rondom> gcompris is a good example for a game for younger children
[09:23] <ninety> thank you
[09:24] <ninety> haha, j'ai compris
[09:28] <ninety> oh, the title is a joke in french
[09:28] <ninety> "i understood"
[09:30] <Rondom> I know
[09:31] <ninety> oh, ok.  So you do know french :)
[09:36] <Rondom> no, I read that on gcompris.sf.net
[09:36] <Rondom> bbl
[09:42] <cbx33> LaserJock, if you get a chance "checkout" my branch of gallium
[09:42] <cbx33> I added a date timeline like kalzium has ;)
[09:43] <danielhedblom> hi there
[09:56] <maxamillion> highvoltage: you around?
[09:57] <LaserJock> cbx33: where is it?
[10:00] <danielhedblom> have anyone of you a separate DHCP on another box than edubuntu ltsp?
[10:00] <danielhedblom> i cant get edubuntu ltsp to boot properly, it stalls on nfs mount
[10:11] <cbx33> LaserJock, sorry
[10:11] <cbx33> danielhedblom, yes I have done that
[10:11] <cbx33> a windows box actually
[10:12] <cbx33> LaserJock, http://progbox.co.uk/gallium
[10:29] <willvdl> Burgwork, got a sec?
[10:30] <Burgwork> willvdl, yep
[10:32] <cbx33> hey Burgwork 
[10:32] <Burgwork> hey cbx33 
[10:32] <cbx33> just saying hey :p
[10:32] <danielhedblom> cbx33: i have a BSD dhcp but i cant get it working, i assume i have to pass more parameters 
[10:33] <cbx33> willvdl, from my POV is there anything I can do to help
[10:33] <cbx33> danielhedblom, I'm not familiar with BSD dhcp at all
[10:33] <willvdl> am about to drop some ideas on use cases with you...
[10:33] <cbx33> cool
[10:33] <cbx33> email?
[10:33] <Burgwork> cbx33, well thanks. Tired, been at work since 630 am
[10:38] <cbx33> heh
[10:39] <willvdl> tea time...
[10:41] <LaserJock> Burgwork: uggg
[10:42] <Burgwork> LaserJock, on two hours of sleep, yes
[10:43] <LaserJock> yikes
[10:46] <willvdl> cbx33, email yeah
[11:01] <LaserJock> hmm, is Mattias Hemmingson on?
[11:11] <DEINOS> im tired
[11:12] <DEINOS> what i have to do to make this dhcp work !!!!!!
[11:14] <DEINOS> ok i am the most stupid gui in this planet , i dont have activated mi 2 nic  !!!!
[11:14] <cbx33> DEINOS, I'm sorry I have to go now
[11:14] <DEINOS> ok dhcp is now working !!!
[11:14] <cbx33> :)
[11:14] <DEINOS> lol
[11:14] <cbx33> I was goona say I'll help you out tomorrow
[11:14] <cbx33> peace out all
[11:14] <DEINOS> ok
[11:15] <DEINOS> KNIXTECH ? ARE U THERE ?????
[11:15] <DEINOS> LASERJOCK
[11:15] <DEINOS> ???
[11:15] <LaserJock> hi
[11:15] <knixtech> hello DEINOS 
[11:16] <knixtech> DEINOS, what fixed it?
[11:16] <DEINOS> o finish , the dhcp is now runing !
[11:16] <DEINOS> 1st , i put another nic , and now i have activated him 
[11:16] <knixtech> what fixed it?
[11:16] <knixtech> see
[11:17] <knixtech> cbx33, see that
[11:17] <knixtech> can you boot pxe to it? DEINOS 
[11:17] <cbx33> yup
[11:17] <DEINOS> i willl test it now
[11:17] <knixtech> nice
[11:17] <DEINOS> but fist i have to make the boot disk
[11:17] <knixtech> glad to hear you did alright!!!!
[11:19] <DEINOS> how i do to make this boot disk ?
[11:19] <DEINOS> pxe , what i need ?
[11:19] <knixtech> you dont need a boot disk, can the thin clients boot from the nic card
[11:20] <DEINOS> but im using pc 133
[11:20] <DEINOS> these machines dont have bios suport to do that , so i need to make a disk , whit a rom , to emule the nic rom 
[11:20] <knixtech> gotcha
[11:20] <DEINOS> teoricaly is this
[11:21] <knixtech> brb
[11:21] <DEINOS> 1st time in linux
[11:21] <DEINOS> brb means ???
[11:21] <LaserJock> be right back
[11:21] <knixtech> yes
[11:21] <knixtech> its always your first time
[11:22] <knixtech> when is it ever going to be your second time
[11:22] <DEINOS> no , it is my first linux instalation , im learning now how it works
[11:22] <knixtech> lol
[11:22] <DEINOS> when this ltsp instalation works fine 
[11:23] <DEINOS> so what i have to do ? 
[11:23] <knixtech> rtfm
[11:23] <DEINOS> ron o matic , get rom , configure and boot ?
[11:23] <knixtech> sure
[11:23] <knixtech> i have never done it that way
[11:24] <DEINOS> how i do ?
[11:24] <DEINOS> how you do
[11:24] <knixtech> i booted from pxe
[11:24] <DEINOS> set in the bios to boot by nic ?
[11:24] <knixtech> yes
[11:24] <DEINOS> i dont know pxe
[11:25] <DEINOS> this is basicaly PXE ?
[11:25] <knixtech> can you boot from a nic?
[11:25] <DEINOS> just in one machinhe , an amd k6 2 500
[11:26] <DEINOS> i will try , brb
[11:27] <bddebian> Away From Keyboard
[11:27] <willvdl_> doh.
[11:27] <DEINOS> dont work
[11:28] <DEINOS> any ideas ?
[11:28] <willvdl_> Away from Komputer sounds a bit Germanic
[11:28] <DEINOS> i go to ron-o-matic.net
[11:28] <willvdl_> what version of pxe?
[11:28] <DEINOS> how i do to see what services are runing , a command line ?
[11:29] <DEINOS> i dont know , it came on EDUBUNTU 6.06
[11:29] <willvdl_> ah, should be fine then
[11:30] <DEINOS> how i do to see what services are runing , a command line ?
[11:31] <DEINOS> d u know 
[11:31] <DEINOS> a command line to show runing process
[11:31] <DEINOS> knixtech ?
[11:32] <DEINOS> :-D
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> olol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:34] <DEINOS> lol
[11:35] <DEINOS> a command line to show runing process
[11:35] <LaserJock> please don't spam the channel :-)
[11:35] <DEINOS> ok
[11:35] <LaserJock> top or ps will give you running processes
[11:35] <DEINOS> hum
[11:36] <knixtech> DEINOS, ps -a
[11:36] <knixtech> and top
[11:39] <DEINOS> ok thats it , now im gona leave to resolve the etherboot questions , 
[11:39] <DEINOS> anybody here know how it works ?
[11:39] <DEINOS> and can help ?
[11:40] <DEINOS> Obrigado a todos
[11:40] <DEINOS> tnx to all
[11:44] <cbx333> hi again 
[11:46] <LaserJock> heh
[11:47] <cbx333> just can't stay away
[11:56] <willvdl> you're about to get a mail that will out you to sleep :)
[12:03] <willvdl> okie, I'm dogfood. big one tomorrow.
[12:03] <willvdl> Ciao