| kwwii_ | I do not think that they can do it in the installer legally | 12:12 |
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| Tonio_ | danimo: not more than an amarok script that installs mp3 support | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | it is exactly the same, and we already do that | 12:12 |
| zorglu_ | so the package way seems a good alternative, no ? | 12:12 |
| danimo | Tonio_: I was surprised that that was allowed in | 12:12 |
| kwwii_ | btw...anyone seen the new amarok theme? | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: me too.... | 12:12 |
| danimo | Tonio_: actually, I am surprised that universe/multiverse are hosted by them | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: but legally there is no difference between the mp3 install script and an installer option to activate universe and multiverse | 12:13 |
| danimo | Tonio_: (I don't belive that none of the ubuntu mirrors is) | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: universe is not a risk | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: concerning multiverse, I agree | 12:13 |
| danimo | Tonio_: isn't e.g. libmad in universe? | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: hum....... I don't think so | 12:13 |
| zorglu_ | "sudo apt-get install universe-repo-config" is easier for the user as he can cut/paste the command and less error prone | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: haha ;) Filename: pool/main/libm/libmad/libmad0_0.15.1b-2.1_i386.deb | 12:14 |
| danimo | Tonio_: and the really "hot" stuff (libdeecss) isn't even in there | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | it is in MAIN | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | my god ! | 12:14 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: wtf? | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: maybe they bought the mp3 licence.... | 12:14 |
| beligum | Hi all | 12:14 |
| danimo | Tonio_: no, then it would be in the canonical extra repo | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: nope, since libmad0 is free, which opera isn't for example | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | I think the commercial repo is for proprietary softwares | 12:15 |
| zorglu_ | hehe :) ok guys why not let their lawer handle the legal matter and focus on the usuability matter ? what about a package ? :) | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | like for example googleearth, it could go in the commercial repo one day | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | but that's just my feeling, maybe I'm wrong | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | the point is libmad0 is in main | 12:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: does the changelog say something? | 12:16 |
| zorglu_ | i am under the impression that such pacakge is trivial to write for people doing package all day, am i correct ? | 12:16 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: let me check | 12:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: never touched by ubuntu guys it seems | 12:17 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: nope, nothing in the changelog | 12:17 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yes it is a direct sync from debian | 12:17 |
| danimo | Tonio_: aren't repo switches recorded somewhere? | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: look at main inclusion queue on the wiki.... | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: you should see it if it has been included in main | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: nope, not that easy to do, for a simple reason, it is impossible to guess what is the sources.list of the user | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | so it is not that easy of you want something clean | 12:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it's always been in main | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah ? that's surprising, since there are parterns on mp3 I think | 12:20 |
| danimo | Riddell: just not on the cd? | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: that's why the ideal would be to ask that during the installation | 12:20 |
| Riddell | danimo has it | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: but that'll never happen :) | 12:20 |
| Riddell | makes do different what repository it's in | 12:20 |
| Riddell | s/do/no/ | 12:20 |
| zorglu_ | Tonio_: you dont have to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list, putting a new file in the /etc/apt/sources.d/ will do, no ? | 12:21 |
| zorglu_ | Tonio_: yep i understand that modifying the installer wont be accepted, | 12:21 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: however if you want to split out themp3 stuff from akode and tunepimp nobody would complain | 12:21 |
| danimo | Riddell: so is this why is the amarok script acceptable? | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no no, thank you :) | 12:22 |
| danimo | Riddell: and why does it include universe when libmad0 is in main? | 12:22 |
| Riddell | danimo: libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse | 12:22 |
| danimo | Riddell: ok, but why not decouple mp3 support from there | 12:23 |
| Riddell | danimo: from where? | 12:23 |
| danimo | Riddell: and why is libmad in main? | 12:23 |
| danimo | extracodecs | 12:23 |
| Riddell | danimo: libmad is in main because of akode and tunepimp | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes but you said "no matter what the repo is" | 12:24 |
| Riddell | danimo: mp3 is in libxine-extracodecs because it can not go in libxine which is on the CD | 12:24 |
| zorglu_ | btw would the issue of mp3 patent goes away if everybody start using the fluendo code (which is legal) ? | 12:25 |
| Riddell | if by fluendo code you mean gstreamer, not really | 12:25 |
| Riddell | since amarok and kaffeine don't currently support gstreamer | 12:26 |
| Riddell | and people would still want to play mp3 files | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: afaik a patent cannot by avoided by any kind of code | 12:26 |
| zorglu_ | could they hack some workaround ? like a wrapper ? | 12:26 |
| Riddell | oh, you mean the fluendo gstreamer mp3 plugin | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: since the patent is on the "concept" or the simple access to a file format... | 12:26 |
| Riddell | no, that's not GPL compatible | 12:26 |
| zorglu_ | Tonio_: yep but fluendo paid for the patent http://www.fluendo.com/resources/fluendo_mp3.php | 12:26 |
| danimo | does gstreamer really bye a free-from-jail card for all gstreamer-users with their plugin? | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: if they paid, yes, that's different | 12:26 |
| zorglu_ | rhmm too bad | 12:27 |
| Riddell | danimo: no, it has copying restrictions | 12:27 |
| zorglu_ | ok what about my suggestion about a package to ease the configuration of universe/multiverse ? | 12:27 |
| Riddell | and amarok is GPL, so no go there | 12:27 |
| Riddell | zorglu_: that's what we have, Amarok does that | 12:27 |
| Riddell | in Edgy | 12:27 |
| kwwii_ | ok, /me goes totally freaky and includes whatever the hell he likes...you'll be recieveing emails including instructions soon! | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: hehe :) | 12:28 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: mind the beta next week | 12:28 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: freeze on 21st | 12:28 |
| kwwii_ | oh, no....no response means we'll run the limit :p | 12:28 |
| kwwii_ | 21st | 12:28 |
| kwwii_ | wow | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it would be nice to resolve the kdeprint issue before the beta is out, since it'll be widelly tested... | 12:29 |
| danimo | Riddell: the media stuff is totally broken for me btw :( | 12:29 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: after that, no more fun? just serious bug fixing? | 12:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: true; danimo: true | 12:29 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: in theory... | 12:29 |
| zorglu_ | :)))))))) | 12:29 |
| kwwii_ | gotcha | 12:29 |
| danimo | Riddell: when I insert a USB drive and the dialog opens, it tells me "invalid url" | 12:29 |
| zorglu_ | the new concept of freezing :) | 12:29 |
| Riddell | danimo: talk to _Sime_ | 12:30 |
| kwwii_ | it is practically speaking the last chance to try something a bit different art-wise | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning kdeprint, I searched without any success.... just one thing is sure, the issue is not a simple 'foomatic-cleanupdrivers' :) | 12:30 |
| Riddell | danimo: I guess we'll make a decision shortly after beta on whether we keep in those patches or not | 12:30 |
| zorglu_ | ok is worthy for me to retry/rexmit later about the universe config package ? or it is just not a good idea ? | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: new kdebase upload should resolve this I assume | 12:30 |
| kwwii_ | I still think we should use the yellow-purple version of the wallpaper | 12:31 |
| danimo | ok | 12:31 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: current one is more popular | 12:31 |
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| danimo | more purple looks too much sun'ish | 12:31 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: I still think I will reduce the saturation of the edges so that people don't think their monitor is broken | 12:33 |
| zorglu_ | [00:33] <Hawkwind> ditte: Your sources list is incorrect | 12:33 |
| zorglu_ | [00:33] <Hawkwind> ditte: You need to add multiverse to the lines that have universe on them | 12:33 |
| zorglu_ | 10sec ago :) | 12:33 |
| zorglu_ | ok i will rxmit later :) | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | zorglu_: yeah I know | 12:33 |
| Hawkwind | zorglu_: Huh ? | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: couldn't "add universe and multiverse" be asked by adept at the first launch ? | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | there are options to activate this in synaptic | 12:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: patches welcome | 12:34 |
| zorglu_ | Hawkwind: nothing personnal, i was just trying to get an easier way for the user to config their unniverse/multiverse | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will think about it, but adept's code is......... complicated for me :) | 12:34 |
| zorglu_ | Hawkwind: and you just happened to deal with the Xieme user having this particular issue :) | 12:35 |
| Hawkwind | zorglu_: As in using Adept I assume ? | 12:35 |
| Hawkwind | zorglu_: Ah gotcha | 12:35 |
| mornfall | bleh | 12:35 |
| kwwii_ | ok, tomorrow we can update the k-d-s stuff...I have enough together to make it worth it | 12:35 |
| zorglu_ | Hawkwind: more as in 'sudo apt-get install config-universe-repo' i think this is trivial to write such package, not too sure tho | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: hehe, highlighting "adept" ? ;) | 12:35 |
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| mornfall | Tonio_: yes, in this channel | 12:35 |
| mornfall | i should stop :p | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: hehe | 12:36 |
| Hawkwind | zorglu_: Nice. That would certainly make life easier and less repetative :) | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: so yes, how about an option to activate universe and multiverse ? | 12:36 |
| mornfall | well | 12:36 |
| zorglu_ | Hawkwind: push with me :) | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: I agree it is the n1 issue for newbies on channels... | 12:36 |
| mornfall | someone promised it'll be on by default | 12:36 |
| toma | tabbed email, OMG that is fantastic | 12:36 |
| mornfall | so i didn't care anymore | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: ah ? | 12:37 |
| Riddell | yes, it was due to be on by default | 12:37 |
| mornfall | in paris at least | 12:37 |
| Riddell | which is why we didn't look at it in paris | 12:37 |
| Hawkwind | Repeating that over and over all the time gets a bit old. A simple command such as the one mentioned above would save tons of time for everyone and make life easier for new users | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | well that would be nice, but I'm surprised that could happen | 12:37 |
| mornfall | Hawkwind: what's your problem? a little sour? or bitter? | 12:37 |
| zorglu_ | 'sudo apt-get install config-universe-repo' which would simply add a file in /etc/apt/source.d/ <- how hard it is to write such package ? | 12:38 |
| Hawkwind | mornfall: Neither actually. Just suggesting that we should make life as easy as possible when it comes to enabling repos | 12:38 |
| Riddell | it's not hard to enable currently, right click->enable. writing a howto wouldn't be hard and make answering questions a URL | 12:38 |
| mornfall | go and do :) | 12:38 |
| Hawkwind | mornfall: I don't mind repeating myself. But a lot of users have asked how to simplify it if possible and unfortunately there doesn't seem to be such an option | 12:38 |
| danimo | does anyone see a console symbol when typing "konversation" in minicli? | 12:39 |
| zorglu_ | Riddell: people finds it hard :) | 12:39 |
| mornfall | yeah, the repo manager is screwed | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well you have to know what line to activate.... there are lots and lots of lines in the default sources.list | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: for a newbie, that file is non very understandable, although it is not licalized.... | 12:40 |
| zorglu_ | Tonio_: Riddell: yep i think that usning /etc/apt/sources.d would make the matter easier | 12:40 |
| mornfall | zorglu_: how so? | 12:40 |
| mornfall | append a line or add a file... sounds about same complexity | 12:41 |
| Riddell | zorglu_: it wouldn't because none of the GUIs support it | 12:41 |
| mornfall | it doesn't make much sense to have it controlled by a package IMO | 12:41 |
| mornfall | it's a setting | 12:41 |
| Hawkwind | Since everyone basically needs/wants both universe and multiverse, why not make them default ? | 12:41 |
| zorglu_ | mornfall: you only have to copy/remove one file per repository, as opposed to edit a 'large' file | 12:41 |
| zorglu_ | Riddell: this is a real argument :) | 12:41 |
| mornfall | zorglu_: wow, large file :) dozens of lines, am scared :p | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: kdebase uploaded (finally...........) | 12:42 |
| zorglu_ | Riddell: how many gui read this /etc/apt/sources.list | 12:42 |
| Hawkwind | Tonio_: I agree. The file is not all that *user friendly* to a brand new linux user | 12:42 |
| Riddell | zorglu_: all of them? | 12:42 |
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| Tonio_ | zorglu_: all GUIs | 12:42 |
| zorglu_ | mornfall: you are not, but a beginner is :) it is not a impression i got, it is output from #kubuntu | 12:42 |
| mornfall | umm | 12:42 |
| zorglu_ | Riddell: how many is that ? :) i mean too many to be modified ? | 12:43 |
| mornfall | zorglu_: come on, i was talking about a script | 12:43 |
| mornfall | zorglu_: not about a newbie with an editor | 12:43 |
| mornfall | zorglu_: it shouldn't be hard to script with pyqt or something a small dialog that has maybe some checkboxes in it and enables what needs to be enabled | 12:43 |
| mornfall | or kommander if that's in default install | 12:43 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: it isn't :) | 12:44 |
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| zorglu_ | good :) | 12:44 |
| mornfall | Riddell: good idea | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: night ! | 12:44 |
| zorglu_ | well just wanted to point out this issue :) as a report from #kubuntu. not always easy to find out what is hard for beginner :) | 12:45 |
| mornfall | night... | 12:46 |
| zorglu_ | ok bed for me too | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: good night | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: that could even be done by a shellscript and kdialog I think... | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: I'm having a look | 12:47 |
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| kwwii_ | how does one reconfigure sound?? | 01:01 |
| kwwii_ | as in,until now my sound does't work | 01:02 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:14 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian! | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Heya Jucato | 03:15 |
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| jdong_ | *sigh*, no, the kernel update did not break your wine..... | 03:46 |
| bddebian | Is that wine or whine? :-) | 03:46 |
| jdong_ | bddebian: I'm just amused what people are blaming on the recent kernel updates :) | 03:46 |
| jdong_ | grub errors, dpkg/status corruption.... | 03:46 |
| jdong_ | you name it :) | 03:46 |
| bddebian | :-) | 03:47 |
| bddebian | I think the latest kernel update broke my CPU and Canonical needs to buy me a Core Duo system.. ;-P | 03:47 |
| jdong_ | yeah, I think that happened here, too | 03:47 |
| jdong_ | I keep on typing in apt-get install conroe-extreme and nothing happens | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Heh | 03:47 |
| crimsun | I'm still awaiting a pony. | 03:49 |
| jdong_ | crimsun: your ALSA patches broke my pony :P | 03:49 |
| crimsun | clarify? | 03:50 |
| bddebian | No longer sounds coming from the appropriate orafices? | 03:51 |
| jdong_ | crimsun: I'm messing with you | 03:51 |
| crimsun | I generally don't joke about alsa, so if it broke... | 03:51 |
| jdong_ | :) | 03:51 |
| jdong_ | bddebian: I used to have more mixer channels :) | 03:52 |
| bddebian | jdong_: crimsun doesn't joke in general which is why he hates me :-) | 03:52 |
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| crimsun | bddebian and I have history. Apparently he carted a pony intended for me to some animal rights organisation. | 03:53 |
| crimsun | that coupled with the "no pony for you" picture was just too much to bear | 03:53 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:53 |
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| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee! | 04:13 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee!! :) | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal, Jucato | 04:15 |
| === Hobbsee wonders why her system had trouble booting today | ||
| nixternal | mine never has problems booting, just rebooting and shutting down | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:21 |
| Jucato | :) | 04:21 |
| === Jucato suddenly remembers to update Edgy on VMWare... | ||
| === Hobbsee replaces her long pointy stick with her sword, for the day. ARRRRR! | ||
| Jucato | ooh.... dangerous | 04:30 |
| Jucato | pirate day? | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | the guys in #amarok related channels are having fun with it :P | 04:31 |
| Jucato | heh | 04:31 |
| === Jucato cuts of his left hand and screws in a hook | ||
| SwordedHobbsee | Jucato: yarrr! | 04:39 |
| Jucato | elow matey! :) | 04:39 |
| SwordedHobbsee | aye! | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | oh dear | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | someone take it away from her, please | 04:41 |
| Jucato | I'd hate to be the one to do that :P | 04:42 |
| SwordedHobbsee | hehe | 04:42 |
| ajmitch | Jucato: then you distract her | 04:44 |
| Jucato | heh | 04:44 |
| Jucato | here Hobbsee Hobbsee. here girl... | 04:44 |
| === SwordedHobbsee uses her sword on Jucato | ||
| === Jucato runs away | ||
| === Jucato runs away fast... | ||
| SwordedHobbsee | a few fast jabs were effective :) | 04:45 |
| Jucato | :) | 04:45 |
| === Jucato plans on taking Hobbsee's kangaroo hostage | ||
| SwordedHobbsee | you cant. | 04:45 |
| bddebian | hah | 04:45 |
| Jucato | hm... a pirate with a kangaroo instead of a parrot... | 04:45 |
| bddebian | I thought it was a wombat? | 04:45 |
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| SwordedHobbsee | no | 04:48 |
| nixternal | oh no..quit yielding weapons Hobbsee ;) | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:17 |
| bddebian | nixternal: Any particular reason for jumping Debian on all these packages? | 05:24 |
| nixternal | jumping them how? | 05:25 |
| nixternal | i can't even jump rope | 05:25 |
| bddebian | qucs for example. Debian has 0.9 and you have uploaded .10 :-) | 05:25 |
| nixternal | how was i supposed to do it? | 05:26 |
| nixternal | im a no0b at it, i apologize | 05:26 |
| bddebian | I am asking if it was necessary? | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | probably get a DD to sponsor you, and sync it :P | 05:26 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: Debian doesn't have the version he uploaded :-) | 05:26 |
| bddebian | Oh, a DD.. | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: well, yes, obviously :P | 05:26 |
| bddebian | Damn, I can't read tonight | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:26 |
| nixternal | bddebian: in the future, how should i go about this? so i don't "jump debian" | 05:28 |
| bddebian | nixternal: If there is a valid reason it's fine. If not, probably best to poke Debian as Hobbsee suggests, if possible | 05:28 |
| nixternal | ok, so if there is updates to a version, go through debian first? | 05:29 |
| bddebian | Ideally but not always possible | 05:29 |
| ajmitch | debian maintainers aren't always responsive | 05:30 |
| === bddebian didn't say that | ||
| nixternal | ok..so if it is possible, poke one of their devs on oftc, let them know of the update, wait for them to update, and then request a sync? | 05:30 |
| nixternal | or a merge | 05:30 |
| bddebian | nixternal: Ideally sure. Or file a BTS bug and point to your diff/packages if you have already done the work | 05:30 |
| nixternal | ok, BTS stands for? | 05:31 |
| nixternal | build team... | 05:31 |
| nixternal | heh | 05:31 |
| bddebian | Bug Tracking System | 05:31 |
| nixternal | omg | 05:31 |
| bddebian | http://bugs.debian.org | 05:31 |
| nixternal | ya | 05:31 |
| nixternal | im there already looking dead at BTS ;) | 05:31 |
| ajmitch | poking people on irc may not be the best way at times | 05:31 |
| nixternal | ok, so if i do my diff/packages, put them on revu, then i could place a link in the bug..got it...email as well, but im always on irc, so it is my main mode of communications | 05:33 |
| nixternal | even my x-wife knows she can get me here before i answer the phone ;) | 05:33 |
| bddebian | nixternal: Mine too and it bites me in the ass a lot :) | 05:35 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 05:35 |
| nixternal | i hear you | 05:35 |
| nixternal | cuz she will sneak in on me | 05:35 |
| nixternal | i stopped using Kopete as it gave me away | 05:36 |
| nixternal | if i didn't ignore or accept i had that popup the entire time | 05:36 |
| nixternal | Riddell: take a look at the latest revision to the release notes on the doc-svn that i just committed when you get a chance | 05:38 |
| nixternal | bddebian: despite the debian stuff, which i will work on in the future, thanks for pointing that out, how is the packaging overall? I am learning, and with proper "pointy stick" handling im sure I will get it eventually ;) | 05:40 |
| bddebian | nixternal: So far so good but damn, qucs is taking forever to build :-) | 05:42 |
| nixternal | ya..i remember that as well ;) | 05:42 |
| gnomefreak | metabar doesnt install and --force-overwrite dont work either | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, i was supposed to fix that, iirc. | 06:23 |
| === Hobbsee is very lazy | ||
| gnomefreak | thought i would let you know :) | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: you could fix it yourself *looks hopefully* | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 06:26 |
| gnomefreak | wish i got that far with packaging :( | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | awww... | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | i thought you had | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | what was the problem with metabar? | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | if force overwrite doesnt fix it? | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | i know why --force-overwrite didnt work :( its a png not a deb | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | but it wont overwrite /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/metabar.png | 06:29 |
| crimsun | what package currently owns it? | 06:29 |
| gnomefreak | me screwed that up i was supposed to overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/metabar_0.7-0ubuntu2_i386.deb | 06:32 |
| gnomefreak | holy crap it overwrites alot of crap | 06:32 |
| gnomefreak | with --force | 06:33 |
| ajmitch | gnomefreak: this is why --force is considered bad :) | 06:42 |
| gnomefreak | ajmitch: i know :) | 06:43 |
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| fdoving | what's the edgy-way of doing cpu-scaling on cpus not supporting the ondemand kernel-thing? | 08:35 |
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| fdoving | powernowd. | 08:48 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: ping | 09:41 |
| Riddell | hi imbrandon | 09:45 |
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| imbrandon | moins Riddell ;) | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | heya is all thats needed for qmake is qt{3,4}-dev-tools ? | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | i'm trying to figure out where dholbach is doing wrong " MESSAGE Qt qmake not found! " | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | CMake Error: Error in cmake code at | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | /usr/share/CMake/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:857: | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | MESSAGE Qt qmake not found! | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 5), libqt4-core, cmake, qt4-dev-tools | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | do you have to export the directory or something? | 09:51 |
| imbrandon | i wouldent think so | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | no in an automated build | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | could be wrong | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | qmake IS in the patch though | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | path* | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~/devel/telepathy-qt/telepathy-qt-0.1.0$ qmake -v | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | Qmake version: 1.07a (Qt 3.3.6) | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | Qmake is free software from Trolltech AS. | 09:53 |
| Riddell | it's finding qmake for qt 3, when it needs qt 4 qmake | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | ahh umm ok | 09:54 |
| imbrandon | so can qmake for qt4 be specified ? | 09:55 |
| imbrandon | would it be easier if i posted what he has so far somewhere for you to look at ? | 09:55 |
| Riddell | I wonder if we should edit /usr/share/CMake/Modules/FindQt4.cmake | 09:56 |
| Riddell | FIND_PROGRAM(QT_QMAKE_EXECUTABLE NAMES qmake qmake-qt4 PATHS | 09:56 |
| Riddell | try swapping around qmake and qmake-qt4 in that line | 09:56 |
| imbrandon | k | 09:56 |
| imbrandon | same error | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | and i dont have a qmake-qt4 | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~/devel/telepathy-qt/telepathy-qt-0.1.0$ qmake-qt4 | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | bash: qmake-qt4: command not found | 09:58 |
| Riddell | ah, well | 09:58 |
| fdoving | qmake is in /etc/alternatives probably a symlink to qmake-qt3 | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | well hrm | 09:59 |
| fdoving | you should use qmake-qt4 | 09:59 |
| imbrandon | welp qt4-dev-tools dosent put qmake-qt4 in the path | 10:00 |
| Riddell | you need libqt4-dev: | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | ok not -core | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | or both | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | woot , ok now its building , got another error but its building ;) | 10:02 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/175931 is a code problem not a build deb probelm correct ? | 10:14 |
| imbrandon | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libdbus-qt4-1-dev: Depends: libdbus-1-dev (= 0.62-4ubuntu4) but 0.92-2ubuntu2 is to be installed | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | E: Broken packages | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | ugh | 10:18 |
| Riddell | needs dbus | 10:19 |
| Riddell | I wonder if we can fix libdbus-qt4 | 10:20 |
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| Riddell | hmm, no | 10:20 |
| Riddell | the dbus package no longer includes it | 10:20 |
| Riddell | that's quite silly | 10:20 |
| ajmitch | dbus package has dropped the bindings | 10:23 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: so not much we can do until qt 4.2 comes out | 10:23 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ok | 10:24 |
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| Tm_T | wow | 11:05 |
| Jucato | lol | 11:05 |
| Tm_T | err, no join on invite, hmm, settings not right | 11:06 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: *g* | 11:06 |
| Jucato | I'm laughing out loud like crazy here :) | 11:06 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: i +i'd you back in :) | 11:06 |
| Tm_T | yes, but it didn't autojoin when you invited | 11:06 |
| Tm_T | like it should, well, that's how I used to keep settings iirc | 11:06 |
| Tm_T | anyway, off ;) -> | 11:06 |
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| imbrandon | wb Hobbsee | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:26 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 11:26 |
| Hobbsee | i had slight problems killing off irssi sessions | 11:26 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:27 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: what's the new password to your machine? | 11:27 |
| Hobbsee | is it the original, or what i changed it to? | 11:28 |
| imbrandon | umm i forgot to setup your account | 11:28 |
| imbrandon | hold on | 11:28 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 11:28 |
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| Riddell | fabo: going to do a new icecream upload to debian? | 11:53 |
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| fabo | Riddell: yes, 0.7.14-3 fixing init script issue | 11:56 |
| Riddell | fabo: lets request a sync once that's in | 11:57 |
| fabo | Riddell: i've got many package to sync | 11:57 |
| Riddell | :) | 11:57 |
| fabo | could you create a batch sync for me ;) | 11:57 |
| Riddell | 9 days until cut off | 11:57 |
| Riddell | can't do batch syncs, they have to be each reviewed by the archive admins | 11:57 |
| fabo | put me on whitelist :) | 11:58 |
| Riddell | no whitelist I'm afraid, everyone needs to have syncs reviewed | 11:58 |
| Riddell | fabo: do you have source packages? | 11:58 |
| Riddell | fabo: I need to compile icecc now-ish for akademy | 11:59 |
| fabo | http://fboudra.free.fr/debian/icecc_0.7.14-2/icecc_0.7.14.orig.tar.gz | 11:59 |
| Riddell | it was the .diff.gz I was after, but I can get it out of svn | 12:00 |
| fabo | Riddell: no builded yet, i can do it in 2 minutes ;) | 12:01 |
| fabo | not | 12:01 |
| fabo | Riddell: http://fboudra.free.fr/debian/icecc_0.7.14-3/icecc_0.7.14-3.dsc | 12:11 |
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| Riddell | thanks | 12:12 |
| Riddell | abattoir: are you requesting sponsorship for the developers summit? | 12:12 |
| abattoir | Riddell: I hope to, yes | 12:15 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i'll add myself to the wiki page soon | 12:15 |
| Riddell | install -D -p -m0644 debian/icecc.conf debian/icecc/etc/icecc/icecc.conf | 12:16 |
| Riddell | install: cannot stat `debian/icecc.conf': No such file or directory | 12:16 |
| Riddell | fabo: hmm ^^ | 12:16 |
| Riddell | fabo: there's an icecc.config, should that be renamed or the install command fixed? | 12:17 |
| fabo | Riddell: there's icecc.conf and icecc.config | 12:19 |
| fabo | icecc.conf must be installed in /etc/icecc/ | 12:19 |
| fabo | and icecc.config you know the use | 12:19 |
| fabo | so the install command must be fixed | 12:20 |
| fabo | but it's strange... i don't understand why the command must be fixed ... | 12:21 |
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| Riddell | fabo: there's no icecc.conf file in SVN | 12:22 |
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| Riddell | but it is in your package on fboudra.free.fr, so I can use that | 12:24 |
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| Tonio_ | hum, that lighttpd rocks ! | 01:26 |
| imbrandon | ello Tonio_ ;) | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | hi imbrandon :) | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | I'm on a complete apache2 -> lighttpd migration...... | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | so I'll not have a lot of free time today | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | it rocks except lighttpd documentation is a bit limited somtimes | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | i dont think there is alot going on | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | but it is REALLY light for the cpu and ram | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | I'm sick of apache2 | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | cool , support php_5 and python ? | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | okay it has 1000000 functionnalities, but who needs this ? | 01:31 |
| imbrandon | i've run apache for years, guess i'm just used to it heh | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yes, but the ubuntu package provides a false config, so I had pain to activate php | 01:32 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 01:32 |
| imbrandon | if it has php/python/mysql support i might look at it | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yes, as companies are used to oracle even they don't need 2% of what it does :) | 01:32 |
| imbrandon | thats all i use really | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: concerning mysql it is in php config, since it runs php with fastcgi | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | concerning python I didn't look at the moment, but I read it was supported | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | I may fix the package for correct config too | 01:33 |
| imbrandon | ouch, that will eat some cpu there cgi version of python and php are slow | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: nope ;) | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | fastcgi is really fast and doesn't eat your cpu | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | currently with 200 personns on my website, php-cgi uses 7% of the cpu | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | lighttpd 2% | 01:34 |
| imbrandon | nice | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | apache2 was running about 35% | 01:34 |
| imbrandon | yea i've been converting all my stuff to python.web lately, seems much more stable that way | 01:35 |
| imbrandon | but its a pain to setup | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | display looks globally a bit faster too | 01:35 |
| imbrandon | cool | 01:36 |
| imbrandon | hrm i cant find anything on the website about python support, but i'lll look at it more after i eat, looks cool | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: look for SCGI and lighttpd for python | 01:42 |
| imbrandon | yea i just found a howto | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | http://cleverdevil.org/computing/24/python-fastcgi-wsgi-and-lighttpd | 01:43 |
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| n8k99 | avast ye mateys | 02:24 |
| Riddell | yarr | 02:27 |
| === Hobbsee waves her sword menacingly in greeting | ||
| imbrandon | heya n8k99 | 02:30 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i just updated the amarok dapper packages if you wanna make a copy on kubuntu.org ( they are uptodate with edgy now ) still need backports etc etc etc http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/dapper/amarok/ | 02:31 |
| imbrandon | all 3 arches btw | 02:31 |
| n8k99 | so, i have edgy on my TiBook now - nice work so far | 02:31 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: nice! you're the amarok man :) | 02:31 |
| nixternal | people are still using dapper ;) | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: a few poor souls ;) | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | ok i'm gonna pop in the shower bbiab | 02:41 |
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| imbrandon | wow you know what i just noticed? kmail hasent segfaulted all day, hrmm | 02:42 |
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| Hobbsee | hah | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | and *that* is why i dont use it for my email | 02:42 |
| n8k99 | huh? | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | heh well i cant get thunderbir to do what i want | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | BUT this last rebuild of kmail seem to stabize it out, dunno why, guess we'll see over the next few days | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | but normaly i get 1 or 2 segfaults an hour | 02:43 |
| n8k99 | <counts self as very fortunate> kmail has always been very stable on my machines | 02:44 |
| Lathiat | yeh kmail is rock solid for me | 02:44 |
| Lathiat | i was using it daily fo rabout 4 months on my work email that saw tonnes of mail | 02:44 |
| n8k99 | in fact I live in Kdepim, if only kopete could be tightly integrated into it! | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | well it always was here till i switched to imap | 02:46 |
| n8k99 | aha! | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: hehe, same here | 02:46 |
| n8k99 | i have not done that - (thought I remembered you mentioning that yesterday) | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | Lathiat: yea i get many thousand emails a day ;) | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | litterly | 02:46 |
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| imbrandon | ok shower ( /me stinks, ewwwwww ) bbiab | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | mm i dont get thousands | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | probably hundreds | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | ah imap | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | i found kmails imap actually to be quite good | 02:48 |
| Lathiat | but i think thunderbirds beats thema ll | 02:48 |
| imbrandon | yea about 2.5 to 2.8 a day avg | 02:48 |
| imbrandon | thundirbird is quite slow compared and dosent do all the stuff i'm used to in kmail | 02:48 |
| imbrandon | s/2.5 to 2.8/2.5k to 2.8k/ | 02:49 |
| imbrandon | depends on how much spam slips though ;) | 02:49 |
| n8k99 | the only thing i wish were availble in kmail is a plugin that allow you to stack the folders and email windows to allow the message to be full window | 02:49 |
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| Riddell | bah, KGlobalAccel doesn't work in pykde | 02:51 |
| nixternal | <Hobbsee> <offtopic>I want the email address longpointystick@ubuntu.com too </offtopic> | 03:01 |
| nixternal | now this is getting out of control scary style | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 03:01 |
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| nixternal | haha | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | hey! it can match my hostmask :P | 03:02 |
| nixternal | you can send email from that address | 03:02 |
| nixternal | lol | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | the meeting's going slow enough... | 03:02 |
| nixternal | right | 03:02 |
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| Tm_T | mooh | 03:11 |
| Tm_T | ooh, nixternal is apllying to membership? | 03:11 |
| Tm_T | ignore mistyipng | 03:12 |
| nixternal | what membership? | 03:12 |
| Tm_T | bah, more coffee -> | 03:12 |
| nixternal | did i click "join" on another launchpad page and don't remember ;) | 03:12 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: nah, I''m having messy head, ignore me totally =) | 03:13 |
| nixternal | haha | 03:13 |
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| === Hobbsee throws rotten eggs at nixternal | ||
| nixternal | oh lord | 03:31 |
| nixternal | what did i do now? | 03:31 |
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| nixternal | i don't know whats worse, the eggs or that damn stick | 03:31 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: I assume you dared to smile | 03:31 |
| nixternal | im tracing my steps right now, i don't see a ;) anywhere ;) | 03:31 |
| nixternal | whoa, 2 of them right there..belay my last | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: i'm watching this CC, and trying to push it along. | 03:32 |
| nixternal | but why do i get the rotten egg attack? | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | you were the last to speak | 03:33 |
| nixternal | <steve erkle voice>did i do that?</steve erkle voice> | 03:33 |
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| Hobbsee | yep | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | =) | 03:33 |
| nixternal | haha | 03:33 |
| nixternal | throw them at jono, he took over the meeting | 03:33 |
| nixternal | i didn't do anything ;) | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | he's having the best attempt at chairing, yes | 03:34 |
| nixternal | we are in #ubuntu-locoteams making fun of it | 03:34 |
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| bddebian | Howdy folks | 03:43 |
| sebas | Howdy me dear buccanneer! | 03:44 |
| Jucato | yarrr matey bddebian! :) | 03:44 |
| bddebian | Hmm did I not get the memo about Pirate day? :-) | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Hello sebas, Jucato | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: it started with the amarok people | 03:46 |
| Jucato | I received the rss feed about it a few hours later after Hobbsee told me about it | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Ah | 03:48 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/240-guid.html | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 03:48 |
| bddebian | Oh brother :-) | 03:49 |
| imbrandon | ;-) | 03:49 |
| imbrandon | bddebian: you have to get the planet.k.o feed if you wanna hang out with us ;) ( just teasin ) | 03:50 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:50 |
| bddebian | :-) | 03:50 |
| Jucato | and if you wanna get a glimpse of imbrandon's face everytime he blogs about something | 03:50 |
| Jucato | :P | 03:50 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: thats planet.u.c ;) | 03:51 |
| Jucato | oh yeah | 03:51 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:51 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: why aren't you aggregated on planetkde? | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | planet.kde.org ;) ( almost all projects have a planet ) | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: never emailed and ask to be i guess | 03:51 |
| imbrandon | dunno | 03:51 |
| Jucato | ah | 03:52 |
| Jucato | :) | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | sides i dunno how much a kubuntu developer would look, but i guess suse develoeprs are there | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | dunno , i might sometime | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | oh lord | 03:53 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: Riddel and mdz (he's martin meredith right?) are there | 03:53 |
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| imbrandon | Jucato: but they are also both upsteam kde develoeprs ;) | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: yes thats mez | 03:54 |
| Jucato | ah | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: i dont have a upstream "home" | 03:54 |
| imbrandon | ( other than apt-mirror and pytunes but neither are in the kde svn and apt-mirror isnt even kde based ) heh | 03:55 |
| === Jucato has still a lot to learn about this "upstream" stuff. :) | ||
| imbrandon | its pretty simple, look at it like this, ok a mountain peek, where a river starts right ? | 03:56 |
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| Jucato | uhuh | 03:56 |
| imbrandon | kde , linux kernel , etc are all at the "peek" of the mountain ( or where the river starts ) | 03:56 |
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| dholbach | heya | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | debian, is a little downstream and catches those parts and puts them togather, they are down stream | 03:57 |
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| andrunko_ | dholbach: :) | 03:57 |
| Jucato | oh. and Ubuntu's further down? | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | then we are a little further downstream and catch debians parts ( and also some of kdes ) and re-put them togather diffrently | 03:57 |
| imbrandon | so debian is our upstream, kde is our upstream:upstream | 03:58 |
| dholbach | andrunko_: made an observation wrt to qt-copy and kde4 - I hope somebody can help | 03:58 |
| Jucato | oooh... | 03:58 |
| imbrandon | dholbach: sure , shoot | 03:58 |
| dholbach | that should be "andrunko_ made an observation wrt to qt-copy and kde4 - I hope somebody can help" :) | 03:58 |
| andrunko_ | hi guys, i am trying to compile telepathy-qt on edgy, it depends on libqt4-debug-dev-kdecopy~svn20060818-0ubuntu. but qt-copy (kde svn) is already updated | 03:58 |
| andrunko_ | and they changed qdbusconnection.h | 03:58 |
| Riddell | andrunko_: so our qt-copy package is out of date? | 03:59 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: so Riddell and mez are like salmon that can swim upstream :) | 03:59 |
| andrunko_ | Riddell: yep | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | ahh thats a Riddell poke ( well i /could/ do it but he is WAY more familiar with it ) | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: exactly | 03:59 |
| Riddell | it's fiddly | 03:59 |
| andrunko_ | Riddell: so should i create a debian/patch dir, and fix telepathy-qt to compile and depend specifically on the version on edgy? | 03:59 |
| Jucato | ok... why on earth did I compare them to salmon.. :) | 04:00 |
| Riddell | andrunko_: that's probably the quickest thing | 04:00 |
| Riddell | andrunko_: I can put updating qt-copy on my todo list but I don't know when I'll get round to it | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | oh wow installing libqt4-debug-dev-kdecopy wants remove 3/4 of the desktop , i ahte this new apt | 04:01 |
| andrunko_ | Riddell: nice, i will do it | 04:01 |
| === dholbach hugs andrunko_ and Riddell | ||
| dholbach | you guys rock | 04:01 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: I doubt it's apt's fault | 04:01 |
| Riddell | hopefully qt 4.2 will be out soon then we can get rid of the -kdecopy lark | 04:01 |
| Jucato | apt-get still using autoremove by default? | 04:01 |
| === Riddell out for lunch for half an hour | ||
| dholbach | Jucato: it never did | 04:02 |
| imbrandon | dholbach: well its that apt wants to remove everything once *-desktop is gone | 04:02 |
| Jucato | I thought in Edgy it did? | 04:02 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: you use apt-get? | 04:02 |
| imbrandon | dholbach: yup | 04:02 |
| imbrandon | dholbach: hold on , lemme pastebin | 04:02 |
| dholbach | it auto-removes, if you run apt-get autoremove | 04:03 |
| imbrandon | look at all the stuff apt wants to remove after *-desktop is gone http://pastebin.ca/176190 | 04:03 |
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| imbrandon | dholbach: yea but if you dont it spams you with a big list every time | 04:03 |
| dholbach | that's interesting | 04:04 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: you should have a chat with mvo. | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | is he alive/awake atm ? | 04:04 |
| dholbach | yes | 04:04 |
| jdong | are we talking about autoremove again? | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | /join #ubuntu-devel | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | err | 04:04 |
| dholbach | cf #ubuntu-devel | 04:04 |
| Jucato | jdong: yes :P | 04:05 |
| jdong | imbrandon: holy crap you beat my record :) | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | jdong: thats a default edgy install | 04:06 |
| jdong | imbrandon: yeah, what metapackage(s) did you remove? | 04:06 |
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| imbrandon | jdong: kubuntu-desktop | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: hey ;) | 04:12 |
| dholbach | hey Tonio_ | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | Yeah we discussed that with imbrandon and I must say I agree... | 04:12 |
| imbrandon | moins Tonio_ | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: lots of people are removing kubuntu-desktop and then the ouput of apt gets very annoying :) | 04:12 |
| === Tonio_ plays with eaccelerator and lighttpd and is very impressed | ||
| Tonio_ | time to forget apache once and for all :) | 04:13 |
| === jdong testing depoyment of lighttpd on the forums | ||
| Tonio_ | jdong: vbulletin forums ? | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: cause I had a very annoying issue | 04:14 |
| jdong | Tonio_: yep | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: be sure to remove the "standard http headers" in vbulletin config | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | that setting is not compatible with lighttpd | 04:14 |
| jdong | ah, ok, thanks for the heads-up :) | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: you're welcome :) | 04:14 |
| Jucato | jdong: please test it on our beloved you-know-what :) | 04:15 |
| Jucato | see if it takes it down :P | 04:15 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: that causes redirections on search.php and post.php to fail | 04:15 |
| jdong | Tonio_: yeah, that can get annoying :) | 04:15 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: also, espacially on the forums, using eaccelerator improves the speed and reduces cpu usage a lot | 04:15 |
| jdong | alright, let's get off the topic of the f-word before you-know-who gets you-know-what :) | 04:15 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: only problem is that we don't have a package for this....... | 04:15 |
| jdong | Tonio_: yeah, we wanted to use it but our apache segfaults when we tried :) | 04:16 |
| jdong | which is kind of bad | 04:16 |
| jdong | apparently it wasn't built with DSO support or something along those lines | 04:16 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: works here, like a charm with lighttpd | 04:16 |
| === Hobbsee looks at jdong's statement, and raises an eyebrow | ||
| jdong | Hobbsee: you missed the forums debate... :) | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: when was that on? | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: i think i was busy poking the meeting into order | 04:17 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: a few days back | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | i thought i was there :P | 04:17 |
| jdong | oh, were you? | 04:17 |
| jdong | well, you kept pretty quiet then :) | 04:17 |
| === jdong suddenly notices python 2.5 tarballs on python mirrors | ||
| Tonio_ | jdong: I just finished my migration, so if you have any question, please ask | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: yes, i know when to keep my mouth shut, usually :P | 04:18 |
| jdong | Tonio_: absolutely, you'll be our #1 contact if we decide to go down that path :) | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: you learn pretty quickly when you're with people who are a lot bigger and stronger than you are :P | 04:19 |
| jdong | :) | 04:19 |
| jdong | whoa, would you look at that? python finally supports try/except/finally | 04:20 |
| jdong | without double-nesting try blocks | 04:20 |
| jdong | it only took them like 10 releases to get it! | 04:21 |
| === jdong ducks | ||
| imbrandon | jdong: fwiw py 2.5 is in the edgy repos afaik | 04:21 |
| jdong | imbrandon: rc2 :) | 04:21 |
| imbrandon | yes | 04:21 |
| jdong | imbrandon: but final was out 1 hour ago... why isn't it in edgy yet :P | 04:22 |
| === jdong bets our python junkies already have the upload going | ||
| imbrandon | Riddell: is there a howto/doc/something about importing streight UI files in py apps instead of pyuic ? or a simple-ish app i can disect .... | 04:23 |
| Jucato | guys, what happened to the DVD download pages? | 04:23 |
| imbrandon | jdong: dir irl kthxbye ;) ( if you dont know thats a joke between me and Hobbsee ) | 04:23 |
| imbrandon | s/dir/die | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:23 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:24 |
| jdong | :) | 04:24 |
| === Hobbsee looks around for Riddell | ||
| imbrandon | Riddell: is there a howto/doc/something about importing streight UI files in py apps instead of pyuic ? or a simple-ish app i can disect .... | 04:24 |
| imbrandon | whoops sorry | 04:24 |
| imbrandon | wrong paste | 04:24 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, Riddell seems really busy today , heh ( if there is something we can help with let us konw Riddell ;P ) | 04:25 |
| imbrandon | its getting crunch time ;) | 04:25 |
| Jucato | er.. I thought he went out for lunch? | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | oh goody, then i can kick you without gettign told off :P | 04:25 |
| imbrandon | not /ME/ , Jucato yea he is at lunch atm but i mean in general | 04:26 |
| Jucato | ah | 04:26 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: leaste not in here save that for u-offtopic ;) | 04:26 |
| imbrandon | too bad you dont come into k-offtopic ;) | 04:26 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: would you happen to know why the DVD download pages are down? | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | we've been using that to discuss the CC meetings | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: none at all. i dont even know where they are :P | 04:27 |
| Jucato | http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php scroll to the bottom | 04:27 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: the dvd images are only for stable releases afaik ( eg breezy dapper ) | 04:27 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: yes for Dapper. | 04:27 |
| Jucato | the download page for Dapper DVD's... | 04:28 |
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| imbrandon | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | that was easy ;) | 04:28 |
| Jucato | well, because you knew where to look :P | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | cdimage.ubuntu.com ;) | 04:29 |
| Jucato | poor soul in #kubuntu didn't even know where to start | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | well thats for edgy | 04:29 |
| Jucato | yikes? | 04:29 |
| Jucato | rawr... | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | looks like daily builds too | 04:29 |
| Jucato | none for Dapper? | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | ummmbrowse cdimage, i'll look too | 04:30 |
| jdong | why do I get the strange feeling that a kernel update will break my laptop today? | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | jdong: becosue you have no faith ( and you obviously changed the default grub then becouse it will hold old kernels so no biggie ) | 04:31 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: I got this, can you very if it's correct? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/ | 04:31 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: my faith is greatly outshadowed by update paranoia :) | 04:32 |
| jdong | imbrandon: mainly because of how flaky my setups love to be | 04:32 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: yea there ya go | 04:32 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: thanks! the "cdimage" part of the url is a bit misleading :P | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | jdong: yea you seem to have more problems than the avg joe, stop messin with things of the unknown ( and pickup an apple ) ;) | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: its been cdimage since the early days of debian ;) | 04:33 |
| jdong | imbrandon: I don't think a mactel would have any easier a time.... | 04:33 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: so now I learn a new thing. :) | 04:33 |
| jdong | imbrandon: compared to a centrino duo | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | jdong: it woudlnt be flackey hardware issues then ;) | 04:33 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: not flaky hardware.. flaky drivers for bleeding edge hardware | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | ... | 04:34 |
| jdong | imbrandon: you should've seen how much last-second nagging I had to do for my laptop to be supported by dapper :) | 04:34 |
| === Jucato just tries to be careful with all updates in general after what happened last time... | ||
| imbrandon | and that is plain wrong ... | 04:34 |
| jdong | imbrandon: psssht, sabdfl was doing the same for ipw3945 support | 04:35 |
| jdong | but then again, he has the right to :) | 04:35 |
| imbrandon | ... | 04:35 |
| imbrandon | ugh sleep time bbl | 04:36 |
| Jucato | heh | 04:36 |
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| Riddell | k3b getting backported I see | 05:16 |
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| Tm_T | hmm, I see second or third set of kde packages today | 05:25 |
| jdong | Riddell: k3b backported? really? | 05:30 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: scratch copying amarok to kubuntu.org, looks like backports is fixed ( and it just hit the buildd's for dapper ) | 06:54 |
| Riddell | yay | 06:54 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:54 |
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| imbrandon | Accepted: | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | OK: amarok_1.4.3-0ubuntu6~dapper1.dsc | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | -> Component: main Section: kde | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | OK: amarok_1.4.3.orig.tar.gz | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | OK: amarok_1.4.3-0ubuntu6~dapper1.diff.gz | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:55 |
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| Riddell | fabo: icecc -2 got into ubuntu :) | 07:12 |
| imbrandon | oh wow , i dont think i should be seeing the accept/reject buttons on the NEW queue on LP | 07:21 |
| === imbrandon go's to talk to the guys in #launchpad | ||
| fabo | Riddell: request another sync or -2ubuntu1 :) | 07:21 |
| Riddell | _Sime_, sebas: it looks like mountconfig needs some fixes for the UUID changes | 07:30 |
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| Riddell | "OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/wine'" hmm, wineconfig not too functional | 07:33 |
| Riddell | yuriy: wineconfig should do something sensible when wine isn't available | 07:34 |
| Riddell | yuriy: and does it only look in /usr/local? | 07:34 |
| kwwii_ | ummm, is krita not a part of edgy defualt? | 07:38 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: it does seem to have wandered | 07:39 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: however koffice is broken on ppc just now | 07:39 |
| Riddell | yay, taskjuggler got into the archive | 07:40 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: ok, thanks | 07:41 |
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| zorglu_ | root 4993 1.1 28.8 312576 129864 tty7 Ss+ 03:20 11:40 /usr/bin/X <- 128mbyte of rss for X.org on a unupgraded install from 6.06.1 cd, and growing with time, aka memory leak. is it a known bug ? | 08:04 |
| Riddell | zorglu_: we don't maintain X here | 08:06 |
| zorglu_ | ok you mean this is not the proper place to do bugs and stuff ? | 08:06 |
| Riddell | zorglu_: not for X, we just do KDE | 08:07 |
| zorglu_ | ok | 08:07 |
| hunger_ | zorglu_: How much video ram do you have? IIRC that is included in the mem requirements of the X server. | 08:07 |
| zorglu_ | hunger_: not sure, 64mbyte taken from the main ram (aka not included in the video card), but the fact this is consistently growing with time, seems to show a memory leak. its is cool, i can reboot X once or twice a day as a manual garbage collector :) | 08:09 |
| hunger_ | zorglu_: Closing your apps does not help? | 08:10 |
| zorglu_ | nope | 08:10 |
| hunger_ | zorglu_: X uses shared mem with apps... that is reported for both X and the apps. So X seems to grow with the number of apps opened. | 08:11 |
| hunger_ | zorglu_: ... or it might just leak memory like mad;-) | 08:13 |
| zorglu_ | yep, about that, i was wondering about the 'funky stuff' done by kde to speed up the apps launch... are the apps actually closed/terminated as in freeing their X memory ? or are they kept in a idle state somewhere ? (even if no window of it appears anywhere) | 08:13 |
| zorglu_ | like i have a 'konqueror --silent' process using 21mbyte of rss when i have no konqueror running | 08:14 |
| hunger_ | zorglu_: From what I understand it just plays tricks with dlopen/mmap to speed up loading. It should not effect terminating apps (but I am no expert). | 08:14 |
| zorglu_ | ok | 08:15 |
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| imbrandon | okies i'm off for a while, i think the backport issue was just only with k3b , amarok is officialy in the archive now ( https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/247050 <-- success build log for i386 ) | 08:20 |
| zorglu_ | hunger_: before rebooting X (with all apps closed) i had 237mbyte free with swap+ram, after rebooting X, i have 570. i definitly got a leak :) | 08:21 |
| zorglu_ | ok sorry for the offtopic | 08:22 |
| hunger_ | zorglu_: Where do you get those numbers from? The ram measurement tools are somewhat unreliable. | 08:22 |
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| JohnFlux | Hey al | 09:16 |
| JohnFlux | all also | 09:16 |
| Riddell | hi JohnFlux | 09:16 |
| Riddell | everyone welcome our newest Kubuntu developer, JohnFlux! | 09:17 |
| JohnFlux | :P | 09:17 |
| JohnFlux | In amarok, when you play an mp3 it offers to download the packages for you | 09:17 |
| JohnFlux | however it needs to set the focus correctly | 09:17 |
| JohnFlux | focus stealing preventation stops the user from usually seeing the dialog box it pops up | 09:18 |
| Riddell | not sure how to get round that | 09:18 |
| JohnFlux | well how is the program launched? | 09:18 |
| JohnFlux | you just have to set the user timestamp to that of the program that launched it | 09:19 |
| JohnFlux | full details in the kwin/ directory | 09:19 |
| JohnFlux | but it's fairly straightforward | 09:19 |
| JohnFlux | quite a few programs in kubuntu suffer this problem | 09:19 |
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| JohnFlux | kdebase/kwin/README | 09:20 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: it's in /usr/share/services/amarok_xine-mp3_install.desktop | 09:20 |
| Riddell | which runs /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3 | 09:20 |
| Riddell | which just uses kdialog | 09:21 |
| Riddell | well, and kdesu and adept | 09:22 |
| === mornfall wanders by | ||
| Riddell | :) | 09:23 |
| mornfall | what's the default terminal text editor in kubuntu? | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: koffice 1.6 is named 1.5.91-0ubuntu1? | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | mornfall: terminal is konsole | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | text ed. is kate i think | 09:25 |
| mornfall | obviously... | 09:25 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: so far | 09:25 |
| mornfall | er | 09:25 |
| mornfall | i mean | 09:25 |
| Riddell | mornfall: nano | 09:25 |
| mornfall | Riddell: yes! thanks | 09:25 |
| mornfall | that's what i was asking :) | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | ok ty Riddell | 09:29 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: hi | 09:32 |
| Riddell | hi JohnFlux | 09:32 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: okay the best way to do this is: install-mp3 needs to take an argument - the winid of amarok | 09:32 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: kdialog should then use --embed <winid> | 09:33 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: the .desktop file when called from amarok needs to pass this info | 09:33 |
| Riddell | hmm, tricky, we'd need to get the amarok winid somehow | 09:34 |
| JohnFlux | well ideally this should be done from amarok | 09:34 |
| JohnFlux | but we can cheat | 09:34 |
| JohnFlux | and use the cookiejar d | 09:34 |
| Riddell | how do we use that? | 09:35 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: how does amarok call the desktop file? | 09:36 |
| Riddell | not sure, I'd guess it reads it in KConfig for the Exec line and uses KProcess to use it, but I don't kow | 09:37 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: I think this really needs to be passed at the amarok level | 09:42 |
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| Riddell | JohnFlux: look like we need to find mxcl | 09:44 |
| === Mez pokes JohnFlux | ||
| JohnFlux | ow | 09:45 |
| Riddell | Mez: could you put the spellcatalogue into the next release of katapult | 09:46 |
| Riddell | Mez: and the edgy display | 09:46 |
| Mez | Riddell: It's in the bzr branch already ;) but - no problems ;) | 09:52 |
| Mez | though I'm still waiting for BT to come out and install my phone line so I can get internet at home | 09:52 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: does mxcl come on occasionally? | 09:54 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: occationally, or we could e-mail him max.howell@methylblue.com | 09:55 |
| Riddell | JohnFlux: note that he only does the amarok side, the install-mp3 script is our doing | 09:55 |
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| Mez | Tonio_, ping | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: ping ? | 10:12 |
| GNUr | apt-get give me a segfault error... it's a new bug? | 10:12 |
| GNUr | it'a my apt-get bug? | 10:12 |
| jdong | GNUr: haven't you had this problem before? | 10:12 |
| jdong | or was it someone else? | 10:12 |
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| jdong | and none of my apts are segfaulting :) | 10:13 |
| JohnFlux | Riddell: related to chris howell? | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: I'm there | 10:13 |
| GNUr | jdong: this is the first time... i've just upgraded my box | 10:13 |
| jdong | hmm, don't know what to tell you | 10:13 |
| jdong | other than I've heard someone else having this problem before | 10:14 |
| jdong | and nobody else seems to have it :) | 10:14 |
| jdong | try reinstalling apt, I guess? | 10:14 |
| GNUr | ok.. | 10:14 |
| GNUr | jdong: sorry for my bad english =) | 10:14 |
| GNUr | ~] >apt-get install apt-get --reinstall | 10:15 |
| GNUr | Segmentation faulta dei pacchetti in corso... 0% | 10:15 |
| GNUr | it's impossible O_o | 10:15 |
| Mez | Tonio_ - you said that you're using edgy with amarok1.4.3 and katapult launching tracks works ? | 10:16 |
| yuriy | hi Riddell | 10:17 |
| yuriy | it looks in /usr/lib, then in /usr/local/lib | 10:17 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: yes it works here | 10:17 |
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| imbrandon | Mez: i'm not on my kubuntu box atm but it works for me too | 10:18 |
| yuriy | and umm yeah i guess i need to fix that. still trying to get a patch in for winebrowser (what a pain) | 10:18 |
| Mez | using >=1.4.2? | 10:19 |
| imbrandon | mez yea | 10:20 |
| imbrandon | edgy and 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu6 | 10:20 |
| Mez | what version of katapult ? | 10:21 |
| Mez | Tonio: what was with the tarball rebuild for katapult ? | 10:21 |
| imbrandon | casnt check atm but latest edgy as of last night | 10:21 |
| Mez | Tonio_ * | 10:22 |
| Mez | weird ... | 10:22 |
| Mez | imbrandon - do this | 10:22 |
| imbrandon | mez i'm in osx atm ;( | 10:22 |
| Mez | dcop amarok collection query "SELECT url from tags LIMIT 1,1" | 10:22 |
| Mez | :'( | 10:23 |
| imbrandon | rember i did that | 10:23 |
| imbrandon | it returned a track | 10:23 |
| Mez | yeah - and back then it didnt work ... | 10:23 |
| Mez | some reason it's now working | 10:23 |
| imbrandon | yea it returned a track from /media/server/brandon/..... | 10:23 |
| Riddell | yuriy: but if it's not installed in either it should still start up | 10:24 |
| Ingmar^ | GNUr: I fixed a segfaulting apt-get by deleting the /var/cache/apt/*bin files ( there's 2 of them) then apt-get update -ing | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: yeah strange, but that's it | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | it works here | 10:24 |
| jdong | GNUr: hehe, of course, can't use apt to install apt if apt is segfaulting.... sorry about that silliness | 10:26 |
| Mez | Tonio_, can you do his | 10:27 |
| Mez | dcop amarok collection query "SELECT url from tags LIMIT 1,1" | 10:27 |
| GNUr | Ingmar^: now works! =) my solution is: run apt-get with all entry commented in source.list | 10:27 |
| jdong | what did you have in your sources.list that could make apt choke that badly? | 10:27 |
| GNUr | Ingmar^: thnx however! =) | 10:27 |
| Mez | Riddell: with KDE's SVN - how do I get the admin directory checked out so I can build ? | 10:28 |
| Ingmar^ | GNUr: you're welcome :-) | 10:28 |
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| Tonio_ | Mez: | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~$ dcop amarok collection query "SELECT url from tags LIMIT 1,1" | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | object not accessible | 10:29 |
| GNUr | jdong: i'm using a default source.list with all entry uncommented! | 10:29 |
| GNUr | Ingmar^: =) | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: oups, needs to be launched maybe ;) | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | lol | 10:29 |
| Mez | Tonio ;) | 10:29 |
| imbrandon | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kde-common/admin | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | dcop amarok collection query "SELECT url from tags LIMIT 1,1" | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | ./Datas/Musiques/Albums/Ben Harper/Burn To Shine/01 - Alone.mp3 | 10:29 |
| imbrandon | mez ^^ | 10:29 |
| Mez | Tonio_, why did you have to rebuild the katapult tarball | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: no pb | 10:29 |
| Mez | Tonio_, now try using katapult to launch that track | 10:30 |
| GNUr | the segfault was in a stat64(bad_file_argument) | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: okay | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: yeah I launched the file with katapult | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | works | 10:31 |
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| Mez | and plays ? | 10:31 |
| Ingmar^ | could someone tell me what script checks for the available cpu frequences, when you boot with upstart ? | 10:31 |
| Ingmar^ | if i boot, i only get the max freq, so apparently I need to manually load those modules each boot :( | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: yes, it works as it is supposed to be | 10:31 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: /etc/init.d/powernowd.early | 10:31 |
| Mez | Tonio_ weird | 10:32 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: what kind of CPU are you working with? | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: hehe | 10:32 |
| Ingmar^ | ty | 10:32 |
| Ingmar^ | intel Pentium M 1.6 gHz | 10:32 |
| jdong | hmm, strange that doesn't work out-of-the-box.... | 10:32 |
| jdong | :-/ | 10:32 |
| Mez | Tonio_, and still you havent answered ... | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: which question ? Why i rebuilt it ? | 10:33 |
| Ingmar^ | jdong: indeed, and i'd like to make / have a fix for edgy final :-) | 10:33 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: does powernowd.early start properly? | 10:33 |
| Ingmar^ | let me see | 10:33 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: my core duo worked out of the box, which uses the same cpufreq modules as your P-M | 10:34 |
| imbrandon | Ingmar^: best to poke keybuk when he is arround in #ubuntu-devel he handles most all of that | 10:34 |
| Ingmar^ | alright, i'll do that | 10:34 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: mjg59 was real helpful the last time I had powernowd issues, too | 10:34 |
| Mez | Tonio_, yes | 10:35 |
| Ingmar^ | someone told me how to manually load those modules, so it's not that bad for me | 10:35 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: the thing is, you should never ever have to do that on a pentium M | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: hum, I could have patched cvs.sh yes :) | 10:35 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: so something's wrong.. either with powernowd.early or with your edgy install :) | 10:36 |
| Ingmar^ | jdong: true, but i haven't found anyone else with the same problem :) | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: that's true, but well.... it is always better when autobla is used to use a modern admin folder | 10:36 |
| jdong | Ingmar^: in that case, you'll have better luck poking mjg59 than keybuk :) | 10:36 |
| Mez | Tonio_, oh, the admin dir wasnt consistent with KDE's SVN ? | 10:38 |
| imbrandon | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kde-common/admin admin | 10:38 |
| imbrandon | err | 10:38 |
| Ingmar^ | jdong: will do | 10:38 |
| Ingmar^ | jdong & imbrandon : thanks | 10:39 |
| GNUr | my audio card don't work properly with the 2.6.17-7-generic (snd_via82xx). if i reboot edgy with a old dapper kernel (2.6.15-23) all wark fine... | 10:39 |
| Ingmar^ | GNUr: lsmod | grep snd | 10:40 |
| GNUr | Ingmar^: i can hear the sound, but it's is not "continous"... i've tryed mplayer and xine based application, like amarok... and the bug persist.. it's a kernel problem | 10:43 |
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| Ingmar^ | ah | 10:44 |
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| Tonio_ | Mez: nope it was an old version | 10:46 |
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| kwwii_ | arrr...y'er luck, matey | 10:57 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 10:57 |
| Mez | Riddell: ping | 10:57 |
| Mez | Tonio_, want to try out some new debs ? | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: hum, no time today, possible tomorrow ? | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: sorry but I'm on a server migration, so it is a bit hot now ;) | 11:04 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: hi, is ubuntu22 the latest kdebase version? | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: yes | 11:04 |
| Mez | Tonio_, no problems | 11:04 |
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| _Sime_ | Tonio_: I just did a apt-get source kdebase and saw that kubuntu_73_nomediaioslave_mounthelper.diff is the old version. | 11:05 |
| Mez | bug 58178 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58178 in katapult "Opening config dialog gives segfault on edgy" [Untriaged,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58178 | 11:05 |
| Mez | bug 56918 | 11:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56918 in katapult "doesn't produce anything on edgy" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56918 | 11:05 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hu ?????????, | 11:06 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: -rw-r--r-- 1 sbe sbe 15882 2006-09-19 22:07 kubuntu_73_nomediaioslave_mounthelper.diff | 11:06 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: does the length match what you have locallly? | 11:06 |
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| _Sime_ | Tonio_: 15882 byte | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I put the V4 patch yesterday....... | 11:06 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: was the source uploaded? | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: yes....... | 11:06 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: my patch was bad. sorry. | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: ........ ;) | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: instead of keeping all patches version | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | remove them all and just have one online | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | and possibly name them like in kdebase | 11:09 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: man, all theses patches and versions piss me off. | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | that will avoid errors in the future :) | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: shoot them all | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | just keep the last | 11:09 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: it is hard because I try test on the same version as what edgy is using. | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: yes I understand........ | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: should I upgrade the patch once again ? I can do it tomorrow | 11:11 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: and with the debian stuff patching things all the time makes it hard too. | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: sure...... | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: well can you put the new version online ? I'll prepare kdebase packages | 11:12 |
| andrunko | Riddell: you there? | 11:13 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: the v5 patch is on the wiki. Once you have made the packages, just quickly test them by inserting a CD or USB stick etc. :-/ | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: okay, will do, thanks | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | is it possible to add webboard to kicker? i cant find it in any of my menus | 11:47 |
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