pielgrzymkalagaraz: I don't want grub, and what does this chroot do?12:11
MetaMorfoziShi all12:11
kalagarazmy chroot is for installing 32bit on 64bit12:11
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pielgrzymkalagaraz: sorry :)12:13
kalagarazsorry? huh? what? confused :(12:13
cpk1isnt gtk the gnome enviroment?12:13
pielgrzymkalagaraz: nevermind :)12:13
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Zairedoes anyone know how I might be able to upgrade Dapper to edgy using apt?12:17
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dittedoes anybody know how to get the java-package?12:19
HawkwindZaire: You can replace all instances of dapper with edgy in your sources.list.  But I'd suggest waiting til Edgy becomes final and stable unless you really want a broken system12:19
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:19
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ditteseriously, people, I have detailed instructions, but one of the packages I need has disappeared from the archives12:20
ditteincluding *verse12:20
pielgrzymhow to make lilo boot another system (linux) which has a separate /boot partition? please help:( I hate lilo :(12:20
sorush20pielgrzym: I would recommend installing grub from a ubuntu install cd..12:21
Hawkwindditte: What package ?12:21
kalagaraz(xvidcap:24172): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:12:21
kalagarazSomeone help me fix :(12:21
Blissexpielgrzym: just add a pointer to the other kernel to the '/etc/lilo.conf'. LILO does not care where the kernels it boots come from.12:21
pielgrzymsorush20: my current install is fully xfs (and grub suck with xfs)12:21
Blissexpielgrzym: probably you want to specify a different 'root=' for the other kernel.12:21
pielgrzymBlissex: I tried12:21
ditteHawkind: java-package12:22
sorush20pielgrzym: hang a round and get some more help..12:22
pielgrzymBlissex: I'll give you my lilo.conf :)12:22
Hawkwindditte: Have you read the URL ubotu just suggested ?12:22
Blissexpielgrzym: OK....12:22
sorush20Blissex: I'm prob being nosy by do you really need xfs?12:22
ditteHawkind: yes, but I'm trying to get Java to work on konqueror, not Firefox12:23
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:23
ditteHawkwind: I have it all figured out, only apt-get install java-package tells me the package is obsolete12:23
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Hawkwindditte: It doesn't tell me that here12:24
sorush20I seem to be missing hal12:24
pielgrzymBlissex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23923 - the config I try to run is at the very bottom12:24
ditteHawkind: you can actually download it??12:24
pielgrzymI have /boot on hde1 and / on hd412:24
Hawkwindditte: I just installed it.  It comes from multiverse12:25
Hawkwind!info java-package12:25
ubotujava-package: utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.27 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 336 kB12:25
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kalagarazCould anyone help me fix: (xvidcap:24368): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:12:25
pielgrzymwhen I try doing 'other=/dev/hde1' I get a 'non bootable error (hence the partition has bootable flag :((( )12:25
ditteHawkwind: this is a serious case of the what the f***. Do I need to restart the computer, after I enable multiverse?12:25
Hawkwindditte: However, the java how-to page doesn't say anything about needing to install the java-package app at all12:25
ditteHawkwind: before you ask, I *did* apt-get update:)12:25
Hawkwindditte: No, did you do: sudo apt-get update ?12:26
ditteHawkwind: it says so here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html12:26
Hawkwindditte: You don't need java-package.  Read the instructions the bot gives here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java12:26
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ditteHawkwind: I did12:26
ditteHawkwind: three times, just to be sure:)12:26
Hawkwindditte: Nowhere does it say to install java-package12:26
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Hawkwindditte:   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin12:27
Hawkwindditte: That's really about all you need12:27
Blissexpielgrzym: you got to put 'root=....' in an 'append' line.12:27
sorush20when I click on the floppy icon to mount the floppy I get the message that this feature is only available with HAL12:27
ditteHawkind: paragraph 3, together with fakeroot12:27
Blissexpielgrzym: also, your 'lilo.conf' is like most a bit messy...12:28
Hawkwindditte: You run PPC ?12:28
pielgrzymBlissex: 'append' line?12:28
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ditteHawkind: AMD6412:28
Hawkwindditte: Then you don't need to be doing the PPC instructions12:28
CFxi tried alsamixer and the master volume is set to 100 but still the mp3 is not playing :-ss12:28
HawkwindThat java-package is if you own a PPC(Mac)12:28
ditteHawkwind: and it says it doesn't have sun-java5-bin either12:29
sorush20CFx: are you getting any sound?12:29
sorush20CFx: from anything else?12:29
pielgrzymBlissex: like append='root=/dev/hde4' ?12:29
ditteHawkind: I don't, this is a PC. A Sempron12:29
Hawkwindditte: You sure you have all the repos set correctly ?12:29
CFxi am getting error windows box sounds12:29
ditteHawkind: I jsut uncommented everything12:29
Hawkwindditte: Might want to put your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://pastebin.ulteo.us12:29
sorush20CFx: what program are you using to play the mp3?12:29
Blissexpielgrzym: like that. Wait a sec for an example12:30
CFxits kafennie12:30
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pielgrzymBlissex: thanks12:30
CFxsorush20 any helps ??12:31
ditteHawkind: ok, doing it12:31
sorush20CFx: in kaffeine go to settings > xine prameters12:31
CFxsorush20: then..12:31
sorush20CFx: then go to audio12:31
sorush20CFx: what is selected auto?12:31
pielgrzymBlissex: let me explain one thing :) I made a copy of my ubu but I separated the /boot to another partition in this copy. I just want to boot the copy to check if it will work12:32
sorush20CFx: is software audio mixer selected?12:32
mark__whee new laptop12:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:32
CFxi have selected everything12:32
kalagarazhow do I install xhost on a chroot?12:32
ditteHawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/11112:32
mark__now to get wireless working so i can remove its lan umbilical cord12:32
sorush20CFx: do you have the codec for mps ?12:33
Hawkwindditte: Your sources list is incorrect12:33
Hawkwindditte: You need to add multiverse to the lines that have universe on them12:33
CFxsorush20: dono... where i can get them??12:33
ditteHawkind: do you mean the last two?12:33
sorush20CFx: you have to follow the instruction about the mp312:34
Blissexpielgrzym: not clear what you want to do. However have a look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2392512:34
sorush20and restricted format12:34
Hawkwindditte: All of them that have 'universe'  you need to add 'multiverse'12:34
sorush20!mp3 > CFx12:34
ditteHawkind: but I also leave "universe", right?12:34
sorush20ubotu: !mp3 > CFx12:34
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CFxany sites to get those helps??12:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:35
Hawkwindditte: Correct12:35
sorush20follow the first link12:35
Hawkwindditte: You want both universe and multiverse and whatever else is there12:35
CFxi need to check it... thnx12:35
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kalagarazxhost:  unable to open display "LOCALHOST:0.0"12:36
kalagarazGetting that in chroot for 32bit12:36
kalagarazwhen I try to do xhost +localhost12:36
pielgrzymBlissex: so you suggest to boot with my current kernel (located on hde6) with a certain parameter? will I be able then to unmount the drive with old os?12:36
ditteHawkind: ok, give a minute to figure how to run kate as root:)12:37
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Hawkwindditte: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:37
CFxis this the codec for playing mp3?? http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/vorbis/libvorbis-1.1.1.tar.gz12:37
sorush20is kubuntu in launch pad?12:38
CFxsorush20 : http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/vorbis/libvorbis-1.1.1.tar.gz is the mp3 codec???12:39
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sorush20CFx: I can see that you need a little one to one help..12:39
ditteHawkind: how do you know this kind of thing?12:39
ditteseriously, sometimes I think aliens run this channel:)12:40
sorush20CFx: /join #sorush2012:40
Hawkwindditte: I've just learned how the distro works in some ways and hanging out here you can learn tons of stuff :)12:40
kalagaraz(xvidcap:24559): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:   How can I fix that?12:40
Hawkwindditte: Sometimes they do :P12:40
sorush20CFx: did you join .. ?12:40
ditteHawkind: you're a developer?12:41
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Blissexpielgrzym: I am not suggesting much, just listin possibilities. Which are only two: you tell LILO where the kernel is, and you tell the kernel where the root partition is.12:42
Hawkwindditte: Nope.  Just run the distro for fun12:42
Hawkwindditte: Have been running linux for nearly 5 years now12:43
ditteHawkind: well, it's almost 5 days for me:)12:43
ditteused UNIX some, though, in university12:43
Blissexpielgrzym: you can have one kernel with two different root partitions, two different kernels with the same root partition, or any combination.12:43
Hawkwindditte: Hah nice.  Hang around here and you'll learn a lot of great stuff, I promise12:43
Blissexpielgrzym: note that all partitions where a kernel mentioned in '/etc/lilo.conf' is must be mounted when you run 'lilo'.12:44
kalagarazHow do I fix a GTK cannot open display error12:44
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pielgrzymBlissex: thanks12:45
ditteHawkind: I hope so...right now I haven't managed to install anything that wasn't a simple apt-get12:45
pielgrzymBlissex: I'll try to mess aruond :)12:46
ditteand even the apt-get ones usually don't work:)12:46
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kalagarazSeriously no one knows how to fix gtk errors?12:46
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kalagarazWhy do I always get errors no one can fix :(12:46
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Hawkwindditte: Having these repos should solve those problems for you12:46
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ditteHawkind: well, hrmm12:47
dittetake rosegarden: every time I press a key it gives me a segmentation fault12:47
dittethat sounds like a hardware problem to me12:48
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dittewow. It works!12:49
ditteI can go play scrabble on yahoo! games again!12:49
ManiCiAr there every1 using kubuntu?12:49
rfwi'm a linux newbie trying to try out gentoo..can someone help with the grub setup12:50
ditteffs...I downloaded Java an hour ago, and it already tells me I'm using an outdated version12:50
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto12:51
gmalex_good night people12:52
kalagarazchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!12:53
kalagarazHow do I fix that? :)12:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxaw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxawdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
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kalagarazapt-get install said there was only libxaw8-dev  7 and 6 versions too01:03
kalagarazI installed 801:03
dittewell, goodnight people...thanks again Hawkwind01:03
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kalagarazstupid shift+backspace01:04
kalagarazAnyways I installed 8, but configure still giving missing headers error and to install libxaw development package01:04
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sorush20what package do I need to install to be able to access read and write ext3 from windows xp?01:08
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sorush20there is project out there .. I think01:08
kalagarazIs there a package I can install that will add everything I need to compile stuff01:10
kalagarazI keep getting lots of configure errors and installing packages 1 by 101:10
kalagarazconfigure: error: *** OpenGL missing - please install GL development package ***01:10
Hawkwindkalagaraz: build-essential01:10
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kalagarazalready installed it01:11
kalagarazstill getting OpenGL missing01:11
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jmichaelxlupine_85: are you out there?01:14
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D3ltaCainany one here can help with a possible XServer problem?01:16
sorush20how do I check how long i have been in a chat room?01:17
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lupine_85[00:34]  [Whois]  sorush20 has been online since 18/09/06 23:19:38.01:34
sorush20thanks lupine_8501:35
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oisacxIs there any fan of azureus here? And someone who is running the latest version of it in kubuntu?01:43
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mad_manfat hog01:46
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Kr4t05mad_man: All java programming is.01:52
mad_manjava=big fat hog01:52
JohnFluxwhat's the highest DPI printer you can buy?01:54
gnomefreakKr4t05: all java gui programming is :)01:54
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intelikeywho <insert discriptor here> set up an init script to over write /etc/motd    don't that break posix  and every other standard....02:00
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intelikeythe offending line    ../init.d/bootmisc.sh:          MOTD="`readlink -f /etc/motd || :`"02:02
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intelikeyno that's not it.02:02
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amarokkerHi, i am trying to install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu. for some reason its not working? is this kinda problem mentioned in the fAQ?02:03
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amarokker(cause i haven't seen yet)- anywhos, some problem caused by gnome-libs02:03
amarokkerand i can't figure out what it is- i purge the trouble-makers. and try again- with the same result- yes, i updated, tried --fix-missing02:03
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intelikeyamarokker what's the error message ?02:05
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amarokkerpasting it now- wait a min.02:05
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amarokkerintelikey: mostly invalid archive signatures02:07
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amarokkerwill it work if i delete those and try again?02:07
intelikeypaste your /etc/apt/sources.list also please02:07
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amarokkerintelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FuVLXB52.html02:09
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amarokkeri got it from source-o-matic02:09
intelikeyamarokker and you are not on dialup are you ?02:09
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amarokkeron adsl- but very slow- max download speed is 30kbps02:10
amarokkergot into trble cause i tried saving up on the downloads using some old archive02:10
amarokkerstarted from a fresh kubuntu installation and got screw'd up long the way.02:10
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intelikeyamarokker try   sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:11
intelikeysee if you get the same errors02:11
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intelikeyin your second paste i also sujest you comment out every thing from line 20 down    unless you just want to cause your self problems, or feel that software over two days old is too old.    and then   sudo apt-get update      but that's only a sujestion.02:15
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amarokkerintelikey: sure. no probs.02:16
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intelikeyi have nothing against adding a forign repo for a specific install.  but it should be closed as soon as it's not needed.   you don't want to pull in something by accident that will break the standard repos02:19
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ketsugiwhat can I use to display TeX documents?02:20
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intelikeyand apt doesn't check where it's from only if it's the newest.   newest != best    newest == newest02:20
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lupine_85newer is generally better, regressions aside02:21
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ketsugihow about koffice?02:21
lupine_85koffice is just crap anyway ;)02:22
KalagarazAnyone know a program for taking videos of desktop?02:22
jmichaelxsome say that the koffice word processor handles some foreign language scripts better..... hebrew, arabic and other right to left lingos02:23
sorush20is there anyway that I could find out how to detect my floppy02:23
ketsugihm, openoffice writer doesn't open TeX either02:23
intelikeylupine_85 newer is generally where the bugs have not been found and remobed yet  :>02:24
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lupine_85ketsugi: oh, sorry. I thought you were talking about repos :). have you tried xgdvi? (not idea what the DVI is about, but it says TeX)02:24
lupine_85intellikey: it's also where bugs get fixed02:24
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ketsugiI'm trying Kile02:25
mad_mani used kate to write a letter and saved the file normale. it turned (dont know when) into a binary. Why or how did this happen ?02:25
lupine_85most of the other repos never get updated02:25
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KalagarazAnyone know where I can upload and host ogg videos for free?02:25
lupine_85IMO, ubuntu's repos get stale, quickly. Still, YMMV which is why you get to choose what repos you use :)02:25
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shulmanI'm running Kubuntu 6.06 with the nvidia driver with dual screens. My screen #1 keeps getting a resolution slightly higher then what I'm setting it to. I usually set it to 1024x728, and it tries no matter what to kind of pan and scan around the screen. How do I fix this?02:27
larson9999it's my hard i have a hard time detecting02:28
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oisacxhi i'm back02:29
intelikeyshulman that's not a bug.  that's the "vertual"  setting in the xorg.conf   look it up.    comment out the line and it will stop that.02:29
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shulmanintelikey -- thanks!02:29
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intelikeylocal dependant maybe02:30
shulmanodd.. I'm looking at my xorg.conf right now. There is no mention of virtual in there02:32
shulmanI can pastebin this...02:32
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intelikeypaste it02:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:32
intelikeyalso of note.   if there is a copy of xorg.conf in the home of whoever starts X it's the one read, not the one in /etc02:33
shulmanWhat confuses me is this is also effecting the login screen02:33
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beermunkanyone available to help me out with some wireless questions?02:35
lupine_85beermunk: sort of :)02:36
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beermunki've got a dell latitude d50002:36
beermunkafter weeks of google I can't find one solution to turn it on02:36
beermunksome posts read 'use ndiswrapper'02:36
beermunksome not02:36
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lupine_85I assume it's using a broadcom card?02:37
beermunki know that kubuntu doesn't support my chipset, a truemobile 1400 broadcom02:37
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lupine_85is 1400 the model number?02:37
beermunkthat's what dell calls it's wireless chipset02:37
ulyssusMrKnibbels: Besser?02:38
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lupine_85hmm, a bcm430702:39
lupine_85looks like you should use ndiswrapper02:39
beermunkand that's where I get confused02:39
intelikeyshulman where's that pastebin url ?02:39
shulmanpastebin appears to be hanging -- here's my xorg.conf http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=2227802:39
lupine_85ok, easy enough... 1. blacklist th bcm43xx module02:40
beermunki've found a bunch of sites with terminal comands02:40
lupine_85(add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - you'll need to be root/sudo02:40
kalagarazany tools for linux for coverting ogg video to mpeg or some other popular format?02:41
lupine_85mencoder ?02:41
lupine_85beermunk: once you've done that, drop to terminal for a second and run "sudo rmmod bcm43xx" - give it your password when it asks02:42
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beermunkdone and done lupine02:43
lupine_85shout when you're that far, and we'll move on to the fun of ndiswrapper02:43
lupine_85okay :)02:43
beermunkthanks, btw02:44
lupine_85next install the package "ndiswrapper-utils"02:44
beermunkalready got it02:44
intelikeyshulman it is which display ?   0/102:44
lupine_85ok, and do you have some windows drivers for your card handy?02:44
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beermunkactually, I don't02:44
intelikeyor both ?02:44
shulmanintelikey display 002:44
beermunki can find them real quick though02:44
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lupine_85go download them from the Dell website (I'd imagine) then :)02:44
beermunki need the inf file?02:45
lupine_85the .inf and .sys, at the very least02:45
lupine_85it's best to have it all though02:45
lupine_85apparently the .inf should be called bcmwl5.inf02:46
beermunkdownloading the driver right now, but it's an .exe file02:46
beermunkcan I extract that I wonder...02:46
beermunkor do I have to go back to windows, extract it02:46
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lupine_85hopefully it's just a packaged zip file02:47
lupine_85(in which case unzip should work) - if not, it might run under wine02:47
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beermunkactually, i just found the inf file off of broadcom's website02:48
lupine_85the .sys as well?02:48
lupine_85I was about to say, they're here... http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/ (at the bottom)02:49
intelikeyshulman well i'm with you.  i don't see a good reason for it.   i have many times seen xorg use the virtual setting and let you pan the display  but all i can see that i might sujest there is to comment out all rez higher than the the desired and see what it does.02:49
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beermunkokay, got them both02:50
intelikeyi.e. remove all mention of 1100+02:50
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kalagarazI can't move stuff to my windows partition?02:51
lupine_85okm stick them in the same directory together, drop to console again and run "sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/bcmwl5.inf"02:51
Jiraiyayour windows partition is probably dirty and needs to be diskchecked02:51
lupine_85that's a lower-case i (as in eye ;) )02:51
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TheReconHunterHey, i have a quick question. In amaroK i somehow made the file menu disappear, anyone know a fix?02:52
beermunkokay, I want to install the driver, correct?02:52
kalagarazI can take from my windows partition though02:52
lupine_85yep, that's what ^ ndiswrapper -i ^ does02:52
lupine_85after that, run "sudo ndiswrapper -m"02:53
Jiraiyadon't do it beermunk, its a trap!02:53
TheReconHunterSomeone plz help, its a pretty quick fix02:53
Jiraiyayour computer will go X.X02:53
beermunkahh - it gave me a list of commands after i did the -i command02:53
beermunkokay, got the -m02:53
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beermunkadded the alias02:53
cpk1i thought it was depmod -a or something to install a ndiswrapper module02:54
lupine_85ok, next is apparently some magical trickery with the .inf file (I got this from google) - "sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf"02:54
dungkalTheReconHunter: wait... ;-)02:54
cpk1TheReconHunter: just because we use kubuntu doesnt mean we all use amarok02:54
Jucatodoes anyone know what package installs the doc files in Quanta's Documentation tab?02:54
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cpk1i use xmms and mplayer, not any of the kde stuff02:55
beermunkdidn't like that command02:55
lupine_85what did it say?02:55
TheReconHunter^^ i figured most of you did02:55
beermunksed: can't read /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf: No such file or directory02:55
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lupine_85well, let's try it without that :)02:56
JucatoTheReconHunter: Ctrl+M ?02:56
lupine_85just "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" now02:56
TheReconHunterwell, cant anyone help? my gosh, it should atleast be installed02:56
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TheReconHunterits udner like one of the first few tabs02:56
TheReconHunteraight jucato02:56
TheReconHunterlemme try02:56
lupine_85ndiswrapper -l (lowercase L) will show all installed driversand the hardware's status02:57
TheReconHunterhorray thanks02:57
beermunkFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument02:57
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lupine_85you want to see "driver present, hardware present"02:57
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lupine_85does that file exist?02:57
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jpiccolo_anyone know how i would be able to get streaming audio to work?02:59
lupine_85yes... it does. O, what does ndiswrapper -l say?02:59
lupine_85(L, lowercase)02:59
beermunk.  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko02:59
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beermunkthat's what it prints02:59
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lupine_85hmmm... when you did ndiswrapper -i, did it give any error messages?03:01
lupine_85(that's eye)03:01
lupine_85silly fonts03:01
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beermunkhere's the error:03:03
beermunkFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument03:03
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[Relic] Hello :)03:04
lupine_85ok, that means that ndiswrapper -i (eye) wasn't successfuly03:04
lupine_85hence why sed failed, also03:04
beermunki see03:05
beermunkeye see!03:05
lupine_85hehe :)03:05
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lupine_85so you got the .inf and .sys from the Dell site, and they were in the same directory when you ran the command?03:05
beermunkthey're on my desktop03:05
pascal_How do I make my display stop going into standby every five minuttes?03:06
pascal_(when not using the mouse)03:06
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pascal_(and keyboard)03:06
Jucatopascal_: System Settings > Display > Power Saving tab03:06
lupine_85so you'd run "sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/beermunk/Desktop/bcmwl5.inf" ?03:06
lupine_85you can't use ~/Desktop because you're using sudo03:06
beermunkdamn, forgot the home03:07
lupine_85(so it goes to /root/Desktop)03:07
lupine_85hehe :)03:07
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lupine_85go again03:07
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beermunkokay got that now03:07
beermunknow do the other command03:07
i4get2hmm edgy seems ok so far..03:08
pascal_hmm. it's not enabled03:08
lupine_85beermunk: yes, the sed one03:08
beermunkdamn, -i gives me the same error again03:08
pascal_power save, that is03:08
lupine_85sorry, but I've got to go :(03:08
beermunkaaron@aaron-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -i03:08
beermunkFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument03:08
Jucatopascal_: is your screensaver enabled?03:08
beermunkthat's alright - thanks though!03:08
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crimsun``sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -i'' looks invalid to me. What's that stray "-i" doing there?03:09
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pascal_Well I just enabled it, but it doesn't show it because it goes into standby mode before I want the screensaver to show03:09
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pascal_It also went into standby mode before I enabled the screensaver03:10
kalagarazHow do I start the kde-manager03:10
kalagarazkde theme manager03:10
Jucatopascal_: hm... that's really strange03:10
pascal_I knwo03:10
Jucatokalagaraz: kde theme manager or kdm theme manager?03:10
kalagarazumm dunno...03:10
kalagarazThe one that changes the color of my windows and stuff03:10
Jucatokalagaraz: ah, kde theme manager03:11
Jucatokalagaraz: but you can change those stuff in System Settings > Appearance03:11
kalagarazI that a ,kth file03:11
pascal_I find out another day. Thanks kalagaraz03:11
Jucatokalagaraz: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"03:11
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kalagarazwhat he thank me for/03:12
Jucatokalagaraz: just make sure that you already have the other "settings/themes" required by the .kth file, otherwise you end up with a botched theme03:12
kalagarazwell I installed it before03:12
kalagarazbut I decided to hold power button down to logout03:12
kalagarazlog back in and its all screwed up :(03:12
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kalagarazback to normal03:13
kalagaraznote to self: no holding down power button for quick shutdown :(03:14
Jucatoheh. that's an emergency shutdown :P03:14
kalagarazwhats a good FPS to record at for istanbul03:15
kalagarazI tried 30fps and when I watched the video it did about 3 minutes of recording in 2 seconds03:16
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kalagarazhold that thought, brb03:16
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intelikeykalagaraz hold down power button ?    na  just pull the plug  :>03:17
Jucatobelieve it or not, my mom thought that was the normal way to turn off a computer...03:17
Jucatopre-XP days03:18
cpk1i thought you just flipped the switch on the power strip03:18
intelikeyJucato it's not ???03:18
intelikeycpk1 man after my own heart...03:19
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Jucatointelikey: now, cpk1's method is the normal way03:19
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intelikeybut seriously linux needs a file system that can take that kind of power off.  ext# can't take it.03:20
intelikeyrieserfs can't either.03:20
Jucatohmm... NTFS? :P03:20
intelikeyhehhe no.03:20
osirisactually ntfs has held up very well in my arcade cabinet, that gets hard powered03:22
intelikeyvfat handeled it well.    romfs cramfs   would work.03:22
osirisan old quantum bigfoot drive03:22
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cpk1hd now can handle sudden poweroffs03:23
cpk1i thought they made them so they dont land badly on a loss of power now03:23
intelikeyit's "write in progress" that is the most dangerous to a modern fs.03:24
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steve_Hey all. Quick question. I intsalled FLUXOBX via Synaptic. I rebooted, was prompted with the login GUI (kdm?) I chose FLUXBOX as my session type and logged in. FLUXBOX loaded up great. I right click on the desktop and there is a menu title labled 'FLUX' but there is NO MENUS under it! Where are the menus that are supposed to be there? All there is is a lil rectangle with the work FLUX in it. Any pointers from you?03:27
cpk1you probably need to put things into the menu03:27
steve_how do i do that? what conf file?03:27
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cpk1your the one with flux =P03:28
steve_if you let me know what file is play with, i can google info on that conf file. I already googled to death with no luck on this issue.03:28
intelikeysduo update-menus03:28
cpk1it probably defaults to not having anything in the flux menu03:28
steve_thanx, lemmy try that03:28
steve_roger that03:28
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steve_should i load the FLUX session and run that? or can i do that from within my XFCE session?03:29
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intelikeyflux.   might work from others... idk03:30
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steve_k. thanx Intelikey03:30
rpalkovicFIrst off, I'm reasonably new to Linux.  Second, I love it.  Third, I need help from an experienced user to help with moving my boot partition03:30
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steve_is it better to perform these operations within a terminal GUI or should i drop into a TTY?03:31
ubuntuhello are there any people here that can help me with me resolution?03:31
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rpalkovicubuntu: depends - what exactly are you trying to do?03:31
intelikeygui   in case the script looks for env $03:31
steve_no idea what that means, but thanx intelikey =)03:32
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kalagarazDoes that video look good?03:32
kalagarazI like the plugin to watch it03:32
kalagarazlike = lack03:32
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intelikeyrpalkovic 2 questions.  do you dual boot ?   and why are you trying to move the boot partition ?03:34
rpalkovici DID dual boot to winxp03:34
rpalkovicbut then i gave bill gates the 'ol heave ho.03:34
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rpalkovicbut when I first set up my harddrive, I planned on dual booting to ubunto, so the boot partition is /dev/hda6 instead of (i think) /dev/hda103:35
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ubuntu_change it i try going into the screen resolution preference and it wont let me change it from m 640x48003:35
rpalkovicubuntu_: you more than likely need to install your video card drivers.03:36
intelikeyok    and you want to change it why ?     (if it aint broke don't fix it or it will be)03:36
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ubuntuUser99intelikey: thanx, the sudo update-menus worked from within a GUI terminal in a XFCE session. I logged out and logged into a FLUX session and the menus are NOW there! =)03:37
ubuntuUser99thank you very much intelikey03:37
rpalkovicintelikey: /dev/hda6 is only 10 gigs out of a possible 80 for the HD.   There's also about 50 gigs /dev/hda5 of windows storage that i need to get rid of now03:37
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rpalkovicideally - i want to move /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1, delete everything else but /dev/hda7 (swap) and extend the size from 10 gigs to 80 gigs.03:38
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intelikeybad idea03:38
intelikeytry this.   add the free space to your system03:38
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rpalkovici don't have free space03:38
rpalkovicbecause there are about 18 gigs of unpartitioned space (old win partition) and 50 gigs of ntfs partition (windows storage) that exists before /dev/hda603:39
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rpalkovicand i can't delete them because i can't unmount /dev/hda6 (linux boot) and /dev/hda7 (linux swap)03:40
ubuntuUser99I see screenshots of desktops. There is a translucent network and CPU load graph on their desktop. what is that app?03:40
intelikeyrpalkovic all that "50 gigs of ntfs partition"   is free space now   is it not ?   format it and mount it.   duh03:41
rpalkovicim not a fan of non contiguous disk space :)03:41
intelikeyso fix it the way you think best.03:42
rpalkovicim trying to...  problem is I can't figure it ou03:42
cpk1ubuntuUser99: maybe you want to link us the screenshots?03:42
intelikeywell good luck with it.03:42
ubuntuUser99good idea. brb03:42
rpalkovicthanks for trying :)03:42
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plugshow do i get around this? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"03:45
intelikeyif you really don't want any breaks in your disk space,  mke2fs /dev/hda   and install on that.03:45
Jucatodraik: not much. just put up the latest transcript03:45
jj_you install dependencies03:45
draikjmichaelx, did you receive the package yet?03:45
draikI have yet to work on them03:45
rpalkovicim guessing that's not going to preserve my current installation, right?03:45
draikmet my mother-in-law this weekend... Good thing is that she likes me03:45
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intelikeydraik wait 10 years and tell us if that's good or not03:46
jj_anyone in here run XGL/compiz?03:46
draikLOL @ intelikey03:47
jmichaelxdraik: yes! i was looking for you earlier. i appreciate it VERY much :-D03:47
draikBTW, I'm not married, she just thinks that I'm going to propose this Thanksgiving03:47
jmichaelxdraik: the package was at my door when i got home from work03:47
draikNo problem jmichaelx03:47
draikwas it what you needed/wanted?03:48
jmichaelxdraik: definitely03:48
draikI'm glad :)03:48
jmichaelxme too!03:48
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draikI can tell :p03:48
jmichaelxi will be sending you a bit of a reimbursement sometime this week yet03:49
draikit's not necessary03:49
jmichaelxi know, but i feel very grateful03:49
jmichaelxand want to03:49
cpk1plugs: if you use apt-get it should resolve dependencies on its own03:49
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sorush20whois consolefx03:53
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sorush20hi .. I think I was hacked by that person I was trying to help..03:53
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sorush20after reboot I can't access my hdd I keep getting the message that the password list not present..03:53
intelikeyrpalkovic before you go off half cocked and and try to install on hda  be advised that grub can not boot hda (lilo can however)   and i know of no ubuntu installer that can install to hda (but i have installed ubuntu there my self)   so if you are completely gung ho about it, i'll help but if you are whisteling in the breeze.  i sujest you just format and mount the rest of your disk  you can mount that 50g to /home  and sa03:54
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rpalkovicintelikey: thanks for the warning :)  I'm not going to install on /hda becuase I'm trying to preserve my current installation.03:58
rpalkovicI know what I'm trying to do can be done, it's just a matter of figuring out how to do it.03:58
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intelikeyrpalkovic i know it can too.   make a new hda1 about 6g  format it  cp  your system to there.  rework grub reinstall it    re work fstab    re boot to the new partition and blank the rest of the drive.04:00
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intelikeymake a new hda2 out of the remaniing space mount it at /home  viola.04:01
intelikeycfdisk  mke2fs  cp  and nano    are all you need.04:02
intelikeyand they are all installed.04:02
intelikeybut when you finish you really wont have gained diddly squat.   your hd is still the same size.  and you still have partitions.  but they are numbered to your specs.04:03
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intelikeyand that makes you the winner04:03
rpalkovicI want two partitions, total.  78 gigs mounted at /, and 2 gigs for swap.04:04
rpalkovicim a pain in the ass, this i know.04:04
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intelikeyyou wont do that without the process above.    only replage "make a new hda2 out of the remaniing space..."  with use gparted  to streach hda1   and when it borkes your fs  don't cry to me.04:06
intelikeyresizing the partition the system is installed on requires boot from another source.  i.e. live cd04:07
intelikeyi've gotten to where i don't even do partitions any more.04:08
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intelikeyi don't have a disk big enough to need partitioning04:08
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jmichaelx<<likes machines with 4 GB and ^GB HDs :-D04:10
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intelikeyyeah  i have 8 drives in this box  2x 4g and others are 8g04:12
jmichaelxok that is very neat04:12
intelikeyit's old  it's slow   it's dependable    it's configurable,  it's supported    :>04:13
jmichaelxnot to mention cheap04:13
intelikeypaid  $0.00  for it.04:14
rpalkovicIt just occurred to me04:14
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intelikey17" crt  does 1600x1280   flawless  free.04:14
jmichaelxi spend (way) more time using my older boxes than my newer ones...04:14
rpalkovicthat i really should have thought this through before getting attached to my configuration.04:15
rpalkovicnot only is /dev/hda6 basically at the "end" of the drive04:15
rpalkovicit's also inside an extended partition04:15
intelikeyrpalkovic just save  /home  to cd  and reload.04:15
jmichaelxmy main PC does 1280x1024 on a 17 inch LCD, but i had to switch to 16bit color because its old graphics card could not support that rez at 24 bit04:16
intelikeyand yes hda5+ will be extended04:16
rpalkovicokay - lets try a different approach...04:16
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rpalkoviccan you think of any reason why I can't make any changes to the drive when booted from a Live CD?04:17
rpalkovicGParted won't let me edit anything04:17
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intelikeyjmichaelx odd thing with my old nv card  it does 24b and 15b  but not 16b   i have yet to figure out why 16b wont work.04:17
jmichaelxrpalkovic: i would suggest one thing... get the Gparted live CD... very very useful04:18
intelikeyrpalkovic i told you you have to boot from another source.    can't mess with mounted file systems04:18
rpalkovica live CD doesn't count as another source?04:18
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intelikeylive cd was my example yes.   you are using a live cd to attempt that now ?04:20
rpalkovicyeah, i tried that first04:20
rpalkovicbooted w/ a Live CD04:20
rpalkovicran gparted04:20
rpalkovicwon't let me do anything but look, basically.04:20
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intelikeybut i still don't think you can change hda5 into hda1 with *parted04:21
rpalkovici thought maybe the partitions had been mounted so I tried to umount them04:21
rpalkovicTHAT might be the issue.04:21
rpalkovicso what I need to do is create /dev/hda1 in the unallocated space04:21
rpalkovicfrom a LIVE CD that is04:21
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rpalkovicthen cp /dev/hda6 /dev/hda104:22
rpalkovicthen change /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot from /hda104:23
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NetslayerI installed knetworkmanager and it's not finding any network devices, not even my wired one... any ideas?04:23
intelikeymake hda1  starting at block 1   format it linux native   copy the system over   reconfig the system to live on hda1 rather than hda5   nuke all other partitions    resize hda104:23
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intelikeyconfiguring includes  editing /boot/devices.map  /boot/grub/menu.lst  reinstalling grub   editing /etc/fstab      take notes      that's the last time i post it.04:24
rpalkovici just copied it all down04:25
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rpalkovicthat's the first time i've heard mention of devices.map - here or in my google searches04:25
intelikeynot sure if devices.map or device.map  but which ever exists.  you should make sure it's correct.04:26
intelikeyit may not need any change  you are staying on the same disk...04:26
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rpalkovici don't even have a .map in boot04:26
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rpalkovicand it's just mapping hd0 to /dev/hda04:27
rpalkovici think it'll be cool to leave it04:27
rpalkovicbut that's cool to learn.04:28
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intelikeyyeah.  like i said you are staying on the same disk.    but it's a good habbit to know what all affects the boot process and check all parts.  you may swap out a drive next time.04:28
rpalkoviclast questions before i give this a go...  why reinstall grub if i'm not messing with /boot?  can't I just modify /boot/grub/menu.lst?04:29
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intelikeytry it and see.04:29
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rpalkovic* is assuming that /boot is a seperate mount, not a subdir of /04:30
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intelikeyif boot is a partition.   then you will still have hda1 hda? and hda604:30
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intelikeysudo grub-install /dev/hda04:31
rpalkovicit's not, I don't, good point.04:31
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rpalkovicalright.  i'm going to give this a go.  all else fails I'll just start from scratch.04:32
powermachi. anyone have experience installing Mapivi?04:32
intelikeyrpalkovic you are also using an init*.img   you should regenerate it.04:32
intelikeyit may try to mount / as hda504:32
leycialguem do brasil???04:33
intelikeyignoring the fstab    i don't think they are that dumb  but you never know about distro builders04:33
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intelikeythey are like support personal,   you just never know.04:34
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:34
leycinesse canal s se fala ingles???04:35
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intelikeyryan____________ if you would add a few under scores to that i think you would have a unique nickname04:37
aaronokay, damn04:37
aaronhow hard is it to mount a ntfs partition anyway?!04:37
aaronAnswer - pretty damn hard!04:37
aaronanyone done this before?04:38
leyci <powermac>vc  do brasil??04:38
powermacto no BR04:38
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leyci <powermac>vc  d ond??04:38
intelikeyaaron  sudo mount /dev/<device> /media/<mount.point> umask=004:38
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JucatoHobbseeWithSword: lol!04:39
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intelikeyaaron it's childs play04:39
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powermacentra ai no ubuntu BR04:39
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:40
intelikey/join #ubuntu-br04:40
powermachow about perl/Tk? any tips?04:42
intelikeyaaron the <device>  can ascertained via  "sudo fdisk -l "   and mount point created or selected <mount.point> == any empty dir04:42
powermaci'm stuck trying to install an app which requires it04:42
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InteliWasphow do i brigde 2 network interfaces?04:43
intelikeydoesn't actually have to be empty.   but any thing in the dir will be inaccessable while the fs is mount on over it.04:43
powermaclooks like all is installed, but perhaps in wrong place04:43
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intelikeypowermac post the error message.  (not the full output, only the first line that says ERROR )04:44
powermacok, hang on.04:44
aaronintelikey:  i found a guide here:04:45
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aaron# /etc/fstab: static file system information.04:45
aaron# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>04:45
aaronproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       004:45
aaron/dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       104:45
aaron/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       004:45
aaron/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       004:45
aarondamn, sorry about the spam04:45
aaronctrl c didn't work04:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:45
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aaronintelikey:  here's the guide I was looking at for mounting my ntfs partition04:46
powermacBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177.04:46
aaroneverything was fine until I got to "sudo nano /etc/fstab"04:46
aaronmy hda2 wasn't located there04:46
aaronso I couldn't change it04:46
aaronI added it but it didn't work04:47
Dendroncan anyone tell me any ideas on why Ubuntu freezes up on me on my laptop and i have to then do a hard reboot.?04:47
aaronactually, i shouldn't say it didn't work04:47
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intelikeyaaron ok.   but i'm not the one wanting to know how.  :)     what's the device node?   hda2 ?    are you sure ?04:47
aaronafter I added it, saved the file and then did "sudo mount -a"04:47
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aaronso it looks like it mounted in the /windows folder I made, but now that folder's locked, I'm assuming because of the windows permissions04:47
aaronor did I do something wrong?04:48
aaronintelikey:  sorry, I saw that you replied to me before :)04:48
intelikeyaaron post the one line from your fstab that you added.04:48
powermacnot sure if you went over this, but i think you have to change the file permissions04:48
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intelikeypowermac what app is this ?04:49
powermaci found i had to unmount paritions before using chmod04:49
powermacits called mapivi04:49
aaron.  /dev/hda2       /windows        ntfs    nosuid,nodev    0       004:49
powermaca perl app photo browser04:49
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intelikey /dev/hda2       /windows        ntfs    nosuid,nodev,fmask=111,dmask=000    0       0   <<< change it to that for full access.04:50
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intelikeyaaron ^04:50
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intelikeyaaron then remount it.04:51
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intelikeypowermac yeah i was searching the repos for it...04:52
powermacfunny, i managed to istall it ok on a powerbook04:52
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powermachad some problems, but eventually it worked04:52
powermacnow i'm on a powermac, obviously04:52
intelikeypowermac give us the reason that preceeded "BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177"   should be just above it.04:53
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powermacCan't locate Tk.pm in @INC04:53
aaronintelikey:  thanks for that, after I saved the file i remounted it by "sudo mount -a" but the folder is still locked04:53
powermacis actually a few lines abouve04:53
aaronThe error I get is : Unable to enter file:///windows. You do not have access rights to this location04:53
intelikeyaaron that doesn't remount04:53
intelikeyaaron sudo umount -a ;sudo mount -a   will remount04:54
aaronumount: /dev: device is busy04:54
aaronumount: /var/run: device is busy04:54
aaronumount: /: device is busy04:54
llxcamxllwhat sorta benefits i gonna get from the full upgrade??04:54
aaronmight have to restart eh?04:54
intelikeyit worked.04:55
intelikeylook ad see04:55
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intelikeyllxcamxll little if any04:55
aaronHOLY SH*T - you are a God04:55
intelikeyif you think i am   just wait until you really meat one04:56
Jucatohm.. how do you meat a god? :P04:56
Jucatooops.. forgot my promise04:56
Jucatosorry intelikey04:56
intelikeyJucato was capitalized.   only one meaning.04:57
InteliWasphow do i brigde 2 network interfaces?04:57
aaronno, thank you - that's awesome04:57
aaronreally really apreciate it04:57
aaroni just got one step closer to never having to go back to xp04:57
intelikeylike i said it's child's play04:57
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aaronchild's play, if you know what you're doing - but I'm learning04:57
mad_mancan i open a exe file using wine on kubuntu that i downloaded ?04:58
intelikeyi wish i knew about networking... so i could answer InteliWasp's Q04:58
aaroncan you recommend a good vnc program that will work with Realvnc server installed on a windows machine?04:58
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intelikeytightvnc should aaron04:58
crwebaaron: there is also vncviewer04:59
ricuchoI'm trying the wireless card on my new pc to work but I'm having a bunch of problems04:59
InteliWaspintelikey: do you know where i could look for answers?05:00
ricuchoI was wondering if someone could help?05:00
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intelikeyInteliWasp ##linux is often very helpful with my networking questions.  just don't tell them i sent you. and you might want to use another nick.... :)05:01
powermacyou can also check out the install instructions on the ubuntu forum05:01
ricuchoI used ndiswrapper to intalled the bcmwl5 driver but the network manager doesnt see the wriles card05:01
InteliWaspis that with 2 #  ?05:01
InteliWaspand do i want to know why i need to change my identity for that chann?05:02
intelikeywell unless you want them to think it's me....   and two ##05:03
intelikeypowermac try installing   libgtk2-perl   and run that again.05:03
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powermacam looking 4 it now05:04
powermaci thought i installed all those "libs"05:05
ricuchocould someone help me w/ my wireless card?05:05
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InteliWaspricucho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:05
powermaci have no experience with that - mine always worked05:05
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InteliWaspricucho: is that your card right?05:05
intelikeypowermac that may not be the reason but  *.pm   generally means a perl module05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
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powermacyes, it is a perl module05:06
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mark_!kde 3.5.405:06
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB05:06
intelikey!wifi > ricucho05:06
mark_eh, anyone have the gpg keys and repository for 3.5.4?05:06
powermacroot@powermac:~/downloads/mapivi081# perl mapivi05:06
powermacCan't locate Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at mapivi line 177.05:06
powermacBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177.05:06
powermacsry for huge amounts, but thats the full error msg05:07
intelikeyoh   hehhe   sudo apt-get install perl-tk    - Perl module providing the Tk graphics library.05:08
powermacwhich i still get after installing the new lib05:08
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powermaci have it all on my machine, but i think it in the wrong place05:08
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powermacapt get will put it right?05:08
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intelikeyapt is not infalable   not by a long shot.  but it's pretty good.05:09
mark_hush intellikey05:09
mark_apt has super cow powers05:09
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powermacPackage perl-tk is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:10
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powermacno cow...05:10
intelikeyapt is only as good as the app it calls    (at best)05:10
intelikeypowermac it's in the repos.  check your sources.list05:10
intelikey!into perl-tk05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about into perl-tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
powermacwhere is the sources list again?05:11
intelikeyhmmm my  apt-cache search  shows    perl-tk - Perl module providing the Tk graphics library.   but the bot didn't find it...05:11
Hawkwindpowermac: /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:12
intelikeysay /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
mark_wanna help me out intellikey?05:12
intelikeywith ?05:12
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intelikeythe repo for kde #05:12
intelikeyi don't know.  it.05:13
Hawkwindmark_: What repo ?05:13
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mark_kde 3.5.405:13
powermacwhich repositories do i want?05:13
Dr_Willisits mentioned on the kubuntu web site  for the testing kubuntu in edgy05:13
Hawkwindmark_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main05:13
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Hawkwindpowermac: You want universe, multiverse, main atleast05:14
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intelikeymark_ see Hawkwind above ^05:15
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intelikeypowermac      main restricted universe multiverse05:16
intelikeythat standard   ^05:16
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XanithHi, I'm trying to install the binary nvidia drivers... but when i type sudo nvidia-glx config enable, it says command not found05:17
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Dr_WillisHmm.. doing a dist-upgrade and all the kde stuff is still held back05:20
powermacThe following NEW packages will be installed:05:21
powermac  perl-tk05:21
intelikeyif some good developers would take an interest in "wesnoth"  it's got the makings of a really good and flexable game.    just needs some campains developed  that dont force you through a strict path of events.    it kinda makes ya feel like you are just there to watch, not involved or in control...     but the underlying game engine is pretty awsome.05:21
Dr_WillisYou mean it plays like  games Like Starcraft/warcraft used to do? :P05:21
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cpk1i like wesnoth ^^05:22
intelikeyDr_Willis i don't know never saw them.05:22
cpk1multiplayer can be a little slow though05:22
intelikeycpk1 yeah it's not really the type of game that is made for multiplayer.05:23
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intelikeyi mean it's basic design.05:23
Dr_WillisGood old "Warlords" :)05:23
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Dr_WillisI was playing that under DosBox the other day05:23
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DaSkreechOk Kopete krashes like noones business05:24
intelikeylike nobody binus05:25
powermacSetting up perl-tk (800.025-2)05:25
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powermacand i get the same error, except the line number specified is different.05:26
gdarelDoes anyone know where I can get some good information on hooking up a GC89 wireless (gsm) card?05:26
intelikeythat's impossabe.05:26
powermacBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 178.05:26
cpk1gdarel: the wiki05:26
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cpk1gdarel: this for a laptop?05:27
powermacok, so TK is on my machine, but perl can't find it, or the program cant' find it05:27
cpk1gdarel: the wiki has a list of what works natively and what needs ndiswrapper05:27
powermacwhere is it supposed to go?05:27
cpk1gdarel: either it *shouldnt* be difficult05:27
powermachow do i move it there?05:28
intelikeyTK.pm would be the perl module for TK   if i am reading that correctly.05:28
intelikeydont move.  link.05:28
cpk1either way it shouldnt be difficult that is05:28
powermacCan't locate Tk/JPEG.pm in @INC05:28
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gdarelLemme take a peek  at the wiki05:28
powermachmm, how do i do that?05:28
DaSkreechintelikey: Binaries?05:29
intelikeypowermac   man ln     but syntax is;  ln -s /path/to/real /path/to/link.name05:29
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gdarelAh OK, I'm not concerned about the network card, the laptop has an internal one that works great05:29
gdarelI'm looking to get the wireless modem working05:29
intelikeyDaSkreech ?05:29
cpk1oh hehe05:29
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powermacok, but where do i put that?05:30
gdarelI have not used a modem in like 10 years and cant remember crap05:30
powermaci dont know where the tk went, do it?05:30
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powermacdo i?05:30
intelikeypowermac find / -name <what ever you want to find>      and link it to where that thing is searching... but i'm still thinking you have something missing.05:31
DaSkreechOk Kopete krashes like noones binaries?05:31
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ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"05:31
powermacme too05:31
powermacthe instructions seem so easy05:32
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powermaclike golf, i guess05:32
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intelikeypowermac example of linking things.   ln -s /media ~/media05:32
intelikeyput your mount point at your fingure tips05:33
intelikeyyou can rm the link at any time.   just don't rm with -R  or you wipe out whatever is mounted there05:33
powermacok, well i think i'll have to deal with this later...05:33
powermacthanks so much though05:34
powermacwas able to get apt-get working!05:34
sandokan512HOLA ANDRS MUJICA05:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:34
intelikeybut again.  i think it's looking for something "not installed"  but the error message may be misleading.05:34
powermacdid you take a look at the mapivi site/instructions05:35
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind05:35
intelikeypowermac no.     did you do    sudo ldconfig     cant hurt.05:35
sandokan512Y VIVA EL SOFTWARE LIBRE05:36
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intelikeypowermac what's the rul ?05:36
naliothsandokan512: can you take that to #kubuntu-offtopic please?05:36
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Jucatotoo late :P05:36
DaSkreechWoah instaban05:36
JucatoHobbsee has wielded her longish sword :P05:36
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DaSkreechWatch out for her pen!05:37
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JucatoChanserv giveth, and Chanserv taketh away05:37
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intelikeymy watch battery is dying.............   ;[05:37
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charsiewbwahaha...that last exchange was funny05:38
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powermacok, tried that. same error.05:39
powermacshould i do a full system update?05:39
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josh_i have a setup.sh file05:39
josh_how do i run it?05:39
intelikeypowermac it's a shame that that app is not in the repos....05:40
powermaci know...05:40
cpk1sh setup.sh i think05:40
intelikeyjosh_ sh setup.sh05:40
powermacnice app05:40
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powermacbut its in perl to be multi-platform, so the author says05:40
josh_i did it once05:40
josh_i must have done a typo last time lol05:41
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intelikeyjosh_  or   sh /path/to/file/setup.sh     <--translate05:41
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Dr_Willis!info nexuiz05:42
ubotuPackage nexuiz does not exist in any distro I know05:42
intelikey!info kde05:42
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB05:42
josh_i got it after u told me the first time05:42
josh_whats the default port for teamspeak?05:42
josh_i dont know how to configure the server or anything05:42
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intelikeyi don't know.  i'm network illiterate,  and quite content to remain that way.05:43
LKCneed help installing mp3 codecd and the like. i have changed the repositories top multiverse but now when i try to install pacages like libxine it says there was a break in the install05:44
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ironfroggyis there a way from KDE to configure the CUPS server to allow connections from other boxes on my local network?05:44
flaccidironfroggy: have you been using kcontrol?05:44
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:45
flaccidread those?05:45
flaccidits in there, just can't remember where05:45
flaccidi'll look05:45
ironfroggyyeah i read those when i first set it up05:45
flaccidwhat is the error you get atm?05:45
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ironfroggyi thought i found the right place in the cupsd.conf but it didnt seem to work.05:45
LKCplz help with insatlling music programs and codecs05:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:46
ironfroggythe server wont allow connections from other boxes. the other boxes just get a general cant connect problem.05:46
ironfroggyno cups specific errors, that is05:46
Dr_Willisironfroggy,  you can always edit the cups config file manually, or reenable the cups web interface.05:46
flaccidso is the problem samba or cups05:46
LKCi have followed those pages but when i try to install i get errors05:46
flaccidyou need to get something from the logs to see what the problem is05:46
ironfroggyi can do this through the web interface? i have that enabled already but i didnt see anything there.05:47
KiongkuLKC: what errors?05:47
Dr_Willisironfroggy,  i was thinking the web interface was semi-crippled.05:47
ironfroggyi know what the problem is. its configured to only allow local connections.05:47
Dr_Willisironfroggy,  you sure the changes are taking effect?05:47
LKCim getting "break errors"05:47
flaccidironfroggy: its in the cups admin05:48
Dr_Williscups  cupsd.conf has some very elaborate 'allow/deny' type options.05:48
KiongkuDr_Willis: u think the prob for LKC is he did not enable the correct repos?05:48
flaccidironfroggy: do you want anonymous access?05:48
ironfroggyflaccid: yes, nothing from outside my network will get to it anyway05:49
Dr_WillisKiongku,  hard to tell.. since we dont know what his errors are. :P 'break' errorws dont mean much tome.05:49
KiongkuDr_Willis: ehrm same here..05:49
flaccidgoto cups server part in cups admin in kcontrol and change from localhost to hostname/lan ip and select anonymous05:49
ironfroggyif they do, i really dont care so much. my printer only holds 50 sheets so they cant do much damage :-)05:49
Dr_Williscups  cupsd.conf  at the bottom . seems to have # Only listen for connections from the local machine.  Listen
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ironfroggyit asks for a admin password, but i never remember configuring one. i mean, i just installed cups and my driver and was on my way.05:50
KiongkuLKC: u tried to install from adept or from terminal?05:50
Dr_Willisthat may be for the web interface however.05:50
LKCto quote it it says" There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."05:50
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flaccidi just showed ironfroggy that in the gui admin05:51
larson9999i have to give my sudo password to configure cups via the www tool05:51
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ironfroggyis there some default admin password for the cups installation?05:51
Dr_Willislarson9999,  heck - that dident even work for me - untill i edited the cups configs and a few other tweaks.05:51
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flaccidthats coz basic http auth is on05:52
LKCit gives me similar messages in "add & remove" and "package manager"05:52
Dr_Willisunless theyve some how changed the default cups settings.  the webinterface used to be locked out.05:52
ubotuTo enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart". Also, see !cups05:52
Dr_WillisHow Dapper LTS Succeeded To Spoil CUPS Printing (Part One -- The Prelude)05:52
larson9999Dr_Willis: the only thing i had to do was make those changes to the group/user settings.  i undid them when i was done setting it up.05:52
KiongkuLKC.. paste ur sources in the pastebin and show me05:53
Dr_Willislarson9999,  heh - ok..  so we agree then. :P ya do need to 'tweak' cups to get the web interface working.05:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:53
Kiongkuyo Jucato.05:53
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LKCwhere do i get my sources (sorry im noob)05:54
larson9999Dr_Willis: yeah, apparently it's disabled by default for security reasons.  but as soon as you find the site telling you that and what you need to change it's not hard to deal wih05:54
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:54
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KiongkuLKC: /etc/apt/sources.lst05:54
Dr_Willis'for security reasons' is a thing that url i posted  sort of rants about. :P05:55
DaSkreechKiongku: Whoops :)05:55
KiongkuDaSkreech: lol05:55
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Dr_Willisbut its  fun just to watch the  flamefest over it. :)05:55
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unix_lappyhey Dr_Willis05:56
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Dr_WillisHowy unix_lappy05:56
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KiongkuLKC: ehrm paste the url here :P05:56
JFreakCapohow can i mount a iso image in my hard drive into the cd-rom device ?05:57
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Dr_WillisJFreakCapo,  you mount the image file to whever ya want to05:57
Dr_Willisthe idea of 'into the cdrom device' is a little.. well.. missleading. :P05:57
LKChttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23944 (sorry bout the name i thought it was to say ur name)05:57
LKCnext time i will put mine05:58
KiongkuLKC: nvm.05:58
reddwolf78can someone tell me what happens if i find a virus on a thumb drive that has been infected and is there a way to cure it to use back with a windows os05:58
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flaccidreddwolf78: what is the file extension/type of file?05:58
JFreakCapoDr_Willis: let me explain something else, i have a virtual machine, then i need mount de iso image in the cd-rom device to see as a cd on the virtual machine, is it possible ?05:59
Dr_Willismount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 NameOfISOFile MountPoint05:59
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Xanithhow do i make certain programs start up automatically with kde?05:59
Dr_WillisJFreakCapo,  using vmware?05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
DaSkreechBlast why hasn't someone made that yet?05:59
reddwolf78i'm not sure exactly i know my friends windows was infected with the grimline virus and he asked me to cure some of his most inportant files05:59
Dr_WillisJFreakCapo,  the vmare  configuration tabs let you select a .iso file for the cdrom to appear as.05:59
HawkwindDaSkreech: Made what ?06:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:00
Dr_WillisJFreakCapo,  ive installed windows95 and other os's with that feature. :P06:00
HawkwindDaSkreech: Give me a definition and a wiki link if there is one06:00
DaSkreechXanith: You put the shortcut or script in ~/.kde/Autostart06:00
larson9999i have a vfat partition.  updatedb doesn't seem to catalog the files on it.  is that the way it's suppose to work and is there a way i can get it to be included?06:00
JFreakCapoDr_Willis: thks a lot, i gonna look it for06:00
KiongkuLKC: back up ur sources.lst "copy it to a new file name in the same folder"06:00
Dr_Willislarson9999,  it may have that mountpoint on ignore.06:00
larson9999Dr_Willis: how do i check that?06:01
Dr_Willislarson9999,  or if its not mounted at the time it updates it. it may get ignored06:01
LKCso copy it but give it a new name in the same folder?06:01
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Dr_Willislarson9999,  update the  database manually while its mounted and see06:01
larson9999it is mounted.  it gets mounted on startup06:01
flaccidreddwolf78: scan it and try to remove the virus. thats about all you can do06:01
KiongkuLKC: yes.06:01
larson9999Dr_Willis: i just did update it and files on it aren't found by locate06:01
Dr_Willis updatedb will automatically parse GNU Locates /etc/updatedb.conf06:02
reddwolf78but linux does not have a virus scaner that i know of06:02
Hawkwindreddwolf78: Yes it does06:02
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KiongkuLKC: bcoz if u give same name.. it does not do anything :P06:02
thompathere are some06:02
Hawkwindreddwolf78: It has many of them actually06:02
reddwolf78and i ran it through my windows virus programs and it does not touch it06:02
larson9999there is avg for linux06:02
Hawkwindreddwolf78: klamav, clamav, AVG(also for Windows)06:02
reddwolf78how can i find them06:02
Dr_WillisPRUNEPATHS="/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /afs /amd /alex /var/spool /sfs /media"06:02
snooplsmhey fellows06:02
DaSkreechHawkwind: No Wikipage06:02
Dr_WillisThere ya go.. RTFM to the rescue! :P06:02
Hawkwindreddwolf78: sudo apt-get install clamav klamav06:02
Dr_Willisit ignores /media06:02
HawkwindDaSkreech: Make me a description and PM it to me if you want06:03
LKCwell i tried coping it but it wont let me06:03
DaSkreechXanith: I assume you don't use sessions?06:03
KiongkuYeee.. i like AVG06:03
HawkwindThough virus scanners on Linux are really geared towards those that run a mail server with windows users06:03
flaccidreddwolf78: it does not touch it?06:03
KiongkuLKC: do via terminal06:03
snooplsmi accidently did sudo vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config on my schools server and it said that was reported, do you think i'll get in troubler?06:04
LKCsays "acess denied"06:04
reddwolf78my avg on my windows side dows nothing with the grimlin viruse06:04
ricuchoHello, could someone help me w/ my wireless card?06:04
flaccidHawkwind: are they server AV solutions. i wouldn't advise installing them on a desktop..06:04
Dr_Willisim curious as to what was watching that. :P06:04
snooplsmricucho where are you at06:04
Dr_Willisdid it let you see the file? :P06:04
LKCit says i must become a member06:04
Hawkwindflaccid: Why not ?  I run clamav every day on my desktop without issues, and have for years06:04
snooplsmno, i thought i was sshd' into my pc06:04
KiongkuLKC: check ur pm06:05
ironfroggyholy crap i found true evil!06:05
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flaccidreddwolf78: i still don't know what you mean06:05
ironfroggyall the times people refuse to help someone with a problem that is obviously a homework assignment...06:05
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ironfroggyand i just saw a google ad for "We Will Do Your Homework!" for programming courses. sickos.06:05
LKCi have but to reply i must be a member which im doing now06:05
larson9999Dr_Willis: i do RTFM but how did you find out that PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /afs /amd /alex /var/spool /sfs /media"06:05
flaccidHawkwind: ok sounds cool06:05
KiongkuLKC: oh ok register ur nick.06:06
Dr_Willislarson9999,  i looked at the config file mentioned at the bottom of the updatedb man page. :P06:06
reddwolf78my friend has a realy bad virus that he got on his windows machine06:06
reddwolf78it got to everything on his system06:06
Dr_Willislarson9999,  im good at  learning/exploreing06:06
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flaccidHawkwind: it can scan ext2 and fat filesystems by cli?06:06
Dr_Willislarson9999,  thats where -- >  " updatedb will automatically parse GNU Locates /etc/updatedb.conf" came from06:07
flaccidreddwolf78: best you can do is scan it and try to remove it... thats all you can do06:07
Hawkwindflaccid: AFAIK it can do all FS's.  I know for sure ext2, ext3, Reiser, XFS.  Not sure about Windows type FS's but I believe so06:07
larson9999Dr_Willis: WTH is /alex ?  the guy who coded it and forgot to take his name out?06:07
reddwolf78me and him tryed but nothing happens he still has it06:07
seb_hi guys06:08
seb_just installed a few days ago ... im soooo happy :-)06:08
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flaccidHawkwind: sounds cool. i think i mistaken that for a different AV which only does mail06:08
Dr_Willislarson9999,  no idea.  i dont knwo what /sfs /afs or /amd are either. :P06:08
Dr_Willislarson9999,  i would guess some sort of network/virtual filesystem thang. :)06:09
Hawkwindflaccid: clamav is geared towards mail servers, but can certainly run on the desktop too without issues06:09
flaccidreddwolf78: nothing happens is not a decent answer06:10
Dr_Willis'concise and useless' :)06:10
Hawkwindflaccid: I have a script that runs clamav and rkhunter every day and logs each to a seperate file.  Very handy for added security :)06:10
Hawkwindflaccid: It's a root kit checker like chkrootkit, but better IMO06:11
HawkwindIt checks for more things and happens to be a bit more thorough06:11
reddwolf78i just ran a virus scan on the thumb drive and it found nothing but if i would run a scan with avg on my windows it would find several files that is corupted06:11
Hawkwindreddwolf78: What's the issue exactly ?06:11
Hawkwindreddwolf78: You don't have to worry about viruses in Linux.  They don't really survive or exist.  There are some, but they are very few and far between and don't work like viruses on Windows06:12
reddwolf78my friend asked me to save some files of his that was corupted by the grimlin viruse for the windows os06:12
flaccidif they are corrupted and you can't remove, there is nothing you can do...06:12
Hawkwindreddwolf78: And you're worried about them corrupting your Linux install ?06:13
reddwolf78no i'm trying to save some of his files that he realy needs06:13
Hawkwindreddwolf78: Then chances are you can't06:13
Hawkwindreddwolf78: If you can't run AVG or MS's anti-spyware program on them to clean them up, then you can consider them trash06:14
reddwolf78so he could have them back for his windows  i was woundering if i clean them with linux could he still use them on windows with out the affect of the virus06:14
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Hawkwindreddwolf78: Only if you can for sure remove the virus.  If not, then there is nothing you can do06:14
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reddwolf78thats the thing i have no idea what the virus realy is06:14
flaccidyeah those files are dead if you can't remove the virus06:15
reddwolf78on my avg on my windows os it calles it a grimlin06:15
flaccidreddwolf78: but you have run avg on them and said they had a a virus...06:15
flaccidthere is usually a link to read up about the virus06:15
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flaccidyou can always google a virus name06:15
Hawkwindreddwolf78: You can tell AVG to heal or quarantine the virus06:15
Hawkwindreddwolf78: If you can't do that, then they are history06:16
Hawkwindreddwolf78: To put it simple, there is nothing in Linux that's going to help you unfortunately06:16
flaccidexcept the spread of the virus, but yeah06:16
reddwolf78ok thanks for your help06:18
reddwolf78i will have to let him know that06:18
flaccidperhaps its a good opportunity for your friend to convert to linux...06:18
Hawkwindflaccid: Bingo!06:18
reddwolf78lol i'm getting him started with it06:18
HawkwindDarn great idea06:18
Kiongkuflaccid: world domination...06:18
flaccidthe security just rox06:18
flaccidyou actually have security in linux06:19
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reddwolf78he standing behind me see this and ask how the suecurity is for linux06:19
Kiongkuhmm u cant modify key system files without password06:19
flaccidits true multi-user06:20
Hawkwindreddwolf78: Tell him that MS uses it for some of their servers :P06:20
flaccidjust say 'NO VIRUSES ON LINUX'06:20
flaccidexcuse the shouting06:20
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reddwolf78how about hackers06:20
DaSkreechhi seb_06:20
Kiongkugot firewall06:20
flacciddefault security is at a good level06:21
HawkwindHackers are people who code :)06:21
reddwolf78or the ppl trying to get in to your system06:21
Kiongkuactually i installed firewall separately06:21
HawkwindYou don't define hackers like most Windows users define them06:21
Kiongkuyeah.. the bad ones are the crackers..06:21
flaccidscript kiddies06:21
ErikTheRedwhat's a good program for batch transcoding from FLAC to MP3?06:21
reddwolf78sorry i get them confused sometimes06:21
reddwolf78can crackers get in06:22
Kiongkureddwolf78: dunno.. i put a firewall on my linux box and one thing i'm sure.. its much better then the one in windows.06:22
Kiongku*then than06:22
flaccidcracker is a broad term06:22
ErikTheRedor just ignore my question....06:23
flaccidcracker relates to mainly cryptography06:23
flaccidbest just call them all cyber criminals06:23
reddwolf78with out a firewall would i have to worry about ppl getting in to the linux system06:23
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flaccidreddwolf78: without a firewall on, linux is still very secure06:24
Hawkwindreddwolf78: Any computer is only as safe as *you* make it06:24
reddwolf78i head it has a 128 bit encryption and it very hard to get through is this true06:24
Hawkwindreddwolf78: It doesn't matter what it is.  If someone wants in bad enough and they know what they are doing, they can get in.  Nothing is impenetrable06:24
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flaccidreddwolf78: well ssh has more than that06:25
larson9999why would anyone connect to the net without a firewall?06:25
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llxcamxllbecause stone cold said so06:27
Hawkwindlarson9999: Why wouldn't they ?06:27
Hawkwindlarson9999: A lot of people only use a router without a firewall06:27
reddwolf78some routers have a built in firewall06:27
larson9999Hawkwind: i thought most routers have firewalls.06:27
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Hawkwindlarson9999: Most do.  But a router won't necessarily keep someone out either06:28
DaSkreechErikTheRed: Still hunting that down?06:28
HawkwindIf someone wants in bad enough, and they know what they are doing, they can get in.  No way around it06:28
reddwolf78true  all firewalls have a back door of somekind06:28
flaccidreddwolf78: secure shell06:28
flaccidno they don't06:28
flaccidif they did have a backdoor, wed be screwed06:28
Hawkwindlarson9999: I only use a router.  I don't use a firewall.  Yes, my router has a built in firewall but that means didly to a lot of smart people out there06:29
larson9999Hawkwind:  sure, so the answer to your questions of why wouldn't they is because most routers have firewalls and even if not there are software firewalls that are free.  that doesn't mean someone can't get in06:29
flaccidrouter firewalls and iptables etc. do well. i'd be more worried about IE on windows ... unpatched exploits/vulns06:29
ErikTheRedDaSkreech: yeah06:29
reddwolf78like zonealarm06:29
larson9999Hawkwind: so you disable your router's firewall?06:29
Hawkwindlarson9999: Right.  I stated that quite some time ago06:29
Hawkwindlarson9999: No.  But anyone with the right skills can bypass a router and its firewall in a matter of seconds06:30
reddwolf78my brother in-law says he can get in to a linux system in 5 minutes ( some how i realy dought that )06:30
flaccidHawkwind: i don't think thats entirely true06:30
larson9999Hawkwind: same goes for my car's security system but i still lock it06:30
Hawkwindflaccid: Sure it is06:30
reddwolf78buy cracking his way through06:31
flaccidreddwolf78: what a bullshit artists06:31
Hawkwindlarson9999: I still use a router06:31
reddwolf78i know06:31
flaccidHawkwind: how can they?06:31
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DaSkreechErikTheRed: Audiokonverter?06:31
ErikTheRedI'll give that a try06:32
Hawkwindflaccid: Software and things like routers are only as smart as the person who programs them.  They all have an issue, or a bad piece of code that can be cracked, hacked or whatever.  Nothing is perfect nor is it impenetrable06:32
flaccidat the end of the day. i've never seen a person on linux say, i've been hacked!06:32
Hawkwindflaccid: I have.  I've had it happen actually06:32
flaccidHawkwind: yes but your generalisation stretches to every product...06:32
reddwolf78how long would it take a average cracker to get through a linux systems encryptions06:32
flaccidreddwolf78: atm, prolly another 5-10 years06:33
reddwolf78excusme cyber crim*06:33
larson9999someone hacked into my paypal account.  not sure how it happened since i don't open any email from paypal.  i just check messages on it's site.06:33
Hawkwindflaccid: There are many software exploits out there for linux.  For example, phpBB is full of them.06:33
flaccidHawkwind: what does that have to do with a router firewall?06:34
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Hawkwindflaccid: I've had my main website hacked due to phpBB before, and it runs Linux06:34
flaccidHawkwind: that has nothing to do with a firewall...06:34
Hawkwindflaccid: Anything can be bypassed man.  Nothing is perfect06:34
flaccidthats an exploit06:34
flaccidyes but its not the firewalls fault or problem06:34
Hawkwindflaccid: The system runs a firewall.  Just because you have a firewall means nothing06:34
flaccidits an proof of concept hack fo phpbb06:34
larson9999Hawkwind: that's because you're not using a firewall?  :)06:34
flaccidfirewalls are port based......06:35
Hawkwindlarson9999: This is on a professionally hosted website :P06:35
Hawkwindflaccid: So you're saying a firewall can't be bypassed by anyone in any form ?06:35
larson9999let's see.  use a firewall and then open all the ports so you can share your pr0n06:35
DaSkreechXanith: Are you using sessions?06:35
Xanithumm i have no clue?06:35
larson9999the swiss firewall06:35
Kiongkulol larson999906:35
flaccidHawkwind: no i'm saying that router firewalls work. you are citing exploits in software, not the disability of a firewall06:35
Xanithlol i'm sorta a n00b to linux06:35
DaSkreechXanith: Alright when you logout and log backin are the programs that you had open still running?06:36
Hawkwindflaccid: I never said they did *not* work.  I said they aren't perfect and they can be bypassed by the right person06:36
flaccidHawkwind: yes but this example is not bypassing at all. the firewall allows port 80....06:36
Hawkwindflaccid: I own a router or 5, and use them and they all have firewalls.  That doesn't mean someone out there isn't smart enough to get around it if they really wanted06:36
flaccidbut they are not getting around it06:37
larson9999i hate having to try to be secure.  why can't people just play nice?06:37
DaSkreechXanith: Ok so that's not what you were talking about?06:37
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Hawkwindflaccid: I wasn't saying the phpBB was bypassing the firewall.  I was trying to show you how nothing is perfect06:37
Xanithwell the last thing i asked was how to get like mp3's to open in xmms by default06:37
HawkwindThe point is, a computer system is only as safe as *you* make it.  Not what you rely on others to do06:37
flaccidyou just said That doesn't mean someone out there isn't smart enough to get around it if they really wanted06:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:37
DaSkreechHawkwind: What's that for?06:37
HawkwindDaSkreech: I thought he needed mp3 information but I read wrong :P06:38
Kiongkukeep constant backup and nobody will cry06:38
DaSkreechKiongku: LIke Visa or AOL :)06:39
KiongkuVisa? credit card?06:39
flaccidHawkwind: just don't leed people on to think that a firewall is something more than port-based filtering06:39
Hawkwindflaccid: I never did06:39
HawkwindI never once said it was anything different06:39
flaccidyou said bypass and get around many a time...06:39
HawkwindThe point I was making, which still stands true, nothing is impenetrable, period06:40
Hawkwindflaccid: Because you can06:40
DaSkreechXanith: Why may I ask?06:40
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flaccidbut you are saying that you are bypassing the firewall. this is not true. the firewall is allowing.06:40
larson9999Hawkwind: i think it's a symantics thing here.  the question was how secure is connecting to the net without using a firewall(not a fool proof one).  i was just thinking that since most routers have them built in and if you're not using a router, software firewalls can be had for free.  so i'm thinking why wouldn't you have a firewall since they are basically free?06:40
Xanithumm because i like xmms?06:40
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Hawkwindflaccid: You aren't listening.  Read up on the ways to get through a router and its firewall on the internet.  They all have ways of doing it in some sort of fashion06:40
DaSkreechXanith: ok :)06:41
Hawkwindlarson9999: I agree.  I never said you shouldn't have a firewall or a router.  Ya'll are misunderstanding the point06:41
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DaSkreechXanith: Konqueror -> Settings -> Konfigure Konqueror -> File associations -> Audio -> Etc etc06:41
HawkwindHe asked...how secure is it.  My answer was...it's as secure as *you* make it yourself.06:41
KiongkuAh screw it ppl :p we love the net we stay on net.. just accept among the millions of pc. if u get hit.. u got bad luck06:41
larson9999Hawkwind: i got the point.  just because you have a firewall doesn't mean you're secure.06:42
Hawkwindlarson9999: Exactly06:42
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HawkwindThat was my entire point all along06:42
MarcChow can I make it so double-clicking a .deb allows me to install it?06:43
MarcCright now it pulls up some sort of package examiner06:43
HawkwindJust because you have a router doesn't mean you're perfectly secure either06:43
DaSkreechMarcC: Right Click -> install package06:43
larson9999Hawkwind: i got stopped before that because i'm thinking if someone is worried about security why would he not use a firewall :)06:43
DaSkreechNot sure about the Double Click though you should be able to do it06:43
Kiongkui heard router firewall are stronger than software based one06:43
MarcCDaSkreech: I don't have that option on my RMB menu06:43
MarcCI wonder if I need to install something?06:44
MarcCRight Mouse Button06:44
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HawkwindKiongku: Not necessarily always true.  They can be, but depends on how they are made and who makes them06:44
DaSkreechWoah thats Fancy :)06:44
KiongkuHawkwind: heheh :p06:44
MarcCis there a name for the .deb installer app with a gui?06:44
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HawkwindMarcC: Adept06:45
flaccidpeace Hawkwind06:45
Hawkwindflaccid: You're sending me a piece of strawberry cake :P06:45
MarcCHawkwind: sorry, I mean the one that usually comes up if you right-click a .deb file and choose to install it?06:45
MarcCAdept is just like Synaptic, right?06:46
flaccidi am?06:46
HawkwindMarcC: Oh, no idea.  I use the CLI for all package management stuff.  It just....works06:46
Hawkwindflaccid: I was hoping :P06:46
HawkwindYou said peace....I was making a joke :)06:46
MarcCHawkwind: if only my wife thought so... ;)06:46
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flaccidi ate all the cake coz i'm a fat *&&*#$06:46
Xanithhow come adept doesn't have like as much stuff as gentoo's portage does?06:46
HawkwindMarcC: Teach her correctly and she will :)06:46
HawkwindXanith: It does if you have all the repos enabled06:47
MarcCok, does anybody know what this GUI .deb installer app is?06:47
Xanithwell like i tried finding TuxRacer and it doesn't have it06:47
Xanithand it doesn't have the newest Opera06:47
JucatoXanith: afaik, TuxRacer has been replaced by Planet Penguin Racer06:47
Hawkwind!info tuxracer06:48
Jucatoand Opera (not the latest, though) is available from the Ubuntu commercial repos06:48
MarcCXanith: TuxRacer has been renamed hasn't it?06:48
ubotuPackage tuxracer does not exist in any distro I know06:48
larson9999tux racer has been ppracer for years06:48
Hawkwind!info ppcracer06:48
ubotuPackage ppcracer does not exist in any distro I know06:48
Hawkwind!info ppracer06:48
ubotuplanetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 700 kB06:48
ubotuPackage ppracer does not exist in any distro I know06:48
Xanithhaha... u can tell i haven't used linux in a while06:48
JucatoHawkwind: mine was right :P06:48
MarcCit's like supertux or something06:48
Xanithlast time i used it it was tuxracer06:48
Hawkwind!info opera06:48
ubotuopera: The Opera Web Browser. In component non-free, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)06:48
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larson9999supertux is a super mario clone06:48
MarcCok, so they're both available06:49
Xanithso i need to enable all repos?06:49
JucatoXanith: not all06:49
Xanithwhich ones then?06:49
Jucatofor ppracer, just the universe repo06:49
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser06:49
Xanithwhat about opera? because i want to install it06:49
HawkwindYou need the non-free repo for Opera though06:49
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larson9999i think they went to the spelled out version of planet penquin racer because ppracer was deemed lewd06:50
Kiongkuwhy does ubotu say only as in price?06:50
Dr_WillisThe price is $006:51
Dr_Willisbut its not GPL's06:51
Dr_Willisbut its not GPL'ed06:51
Dr_WillisFree as in Beer, Vs Free as in Speech.06:51
JucatoKiongku: because it's not "free as in freedom/speech"06:51
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Dr_Willisand not Free as in "Love" :)06:52
Dr_WillisWonder when that Opera Browser is going to get released for the Nintindo DS.06:53
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JucatoDr_Willis: I thought it was already available, but not built-in06:53
Xanithwhat about the game racer?06:53
Kiongkunintendo ds?...06:53
flaccidi heard it was too06:54
JucatoXanith: TuxRacer exists no more06:54
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Xanithnooo Racer...06:54
JucatoIt's PlanetPenguin-Racer now06:54
Xanithgrr =\06:54
Xanithpeople don't listen...06:54
XanithRacer is a free car simluation game06:54
humblehey folks... i hosed my kubuntu dapper system trying to upgrade to edgy knot3... can anyone help me recover?06:54
larson9999racer is another game.06:54
XanithGoogle > Racer (1st link)06:54
DaSkreechDr_Willis: Free Love is giving out?06:55
Dr_WillisJucato,  for the Handled DS..  i think its due out on a Cartridge in a month or so.. the new "WII" will have it built in i guess06:55
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Dr_Willishumble,  heh - i just upgraded..no hassles.. so far06:56
Dr_Willisother then the gnome theme packatges being mad.06:56
JucatoDescription: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin PlanetPenguin Racer, or ppracer as it is called for short, is a simple OpenGL racing game featuring Tux, the Linux mascot. The  goal of the game is to slide down a snow- and ice-covered mountain as quickly as possible, avoiding the trees and rocks that will slow you down.06:56
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Lamingtonhey all06:56
Xanithwould you get off the PlanetPenguin Racer... That's not the game i'm referring to06:56
Kiongkuhey guys06:56
Dr_WillisI sort of like SLUNE06:57
XanithThe game is called Racer - A free car simulation game...06:57
humblei changed all my apt sources to edgy and did a couple of apt-update - apt-upgrade - apt-dist-upgrade...06:57
XanithGoogle > Racer (1st Link)06:57
Dr_Willisxmoto is getting me annoyed however. :)06:57
Kiongkuin grub.. how do u read the entry number for the differsnt os06:57
larson9999Xanith: so what about racer?06:57
Xanithis it on adept?06:57
JucatoXanith: ah ok. A while ago you were asking about tuxracer06:57
LamingtonI've just tried to set up a jabber googletalk account in kopete... but its not working... got a good link anyone ?06:57
humblebut when i re-booted... nade... says loading linux kernel and then hangs06:57
Dr_WillisKiongku,  grub starts counting at  0 (zero) rember that. :P06:57
Kiongkui know06:57
Dr_WillisKiongku,  and the description lines also count.06:57
Kiongkuhow do i count -_-"?06:57
Kiongkui count the lines?06:58
Dr_WillisYou wanting to boot to windows by default?06:58
Dr_Willisor what are ya want ing to do?06:58
Hawkwindhumble: Why where you upgrading to edgy in the first place since it's not stable nor released as final yet ?06:58
humbleto help out with bug reports06:58
Dr_Willisleetness points06:58
Kiongkuthats what LKC wants..06:58
HawkwindHeh.  vmware is free :)06:59
KiongkuDr_Willis: or is it better use savedefault?06:59
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Hawkwindhumble: I honestly don't know how to help you revert from an edgy install back to a working system unfortunately06:59
Lamingtongood work humble06:59
Dr_WillisKiongku,  easiest way i found to do it - was uncomment the  example windows grub entry/stanza thats above the magickernel 'lines'  - that way you got windows first..  in position 006:59
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JucatoLamington: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support06:59
Lamingtonthanks Jucato07:00
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HawkwindLamington: There is also a step by step on the google talk home page for that07:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:00
JucatoHawkwind: that kde wiki is also step by step :P07:00
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JucatoHawkwind: hm... shouldn't you be asleep? :D07:01
LamingtonHawkwind: I dont think it covers Kopete though... but the KDE wiki page Jucato posted is fine :)07:01
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Lamingtonoh well what do you know07:01
LamingtonI did everything right07:01
LamingtonI just have to restart kopete :P07:01
HawkwindJucato: Probably soon.  Helping Liz pack and all for her trip to Vegas tomorrow07:02
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JucatoHawkwind: ah yes. the vegas trip07:02
larson9999Hawkwind: you're helping her pack by chatting?07:02
larson9999that's how i help my wife cook07:02
Hawkwindlarson9999: I'm helping her by staying out of the way :P07:03
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larson9999i need to get to bed so i'm well rested for my interview.  need to go back to work07:03
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warpzonequestion, do GTK apps typically cause problems in KDE? both firefox and azureus seem to hang frozen at random intervals for short periods of time07:05
Lamingtonhmm still not connecting07:05
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LamingtonThere was a connection error: Operation is not supported.07:06
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LamingtonWhat might that be ?07:06
shogranwhat ya trying ta do lamington?07:06
Lamingtonconnect to googletalk with kopete07:06
shogranok no clue sorry lol07:06
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LamingtonI dunno whats wrong07:07
Jucatoyou did install qca-tls package?07:07
Jucatoor check if it was installed07:08
Lamingtonqca-tls is installed in kubuntu by default07:08
Lamingtonyes, I checked also07:08
Lamingtonso... I'm scratching my head07:08
shogran kubuntu? i think im in the wrong room.. i have just regular old ubuntu07:09
Jucatoshogran: you might be in the wrong room. this is #kubuntu :P07:09
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Lamingtonhe's using konversation07:10
Jucatoah no wonder07:10
Dr_WillisIm using FrankeUbuntu!07:10
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Dr_Willisa monster mix up of bits and parts.07:10
Lamingtonmy jabber icon pulsates for a while and then I get the error message07:11
JucatoLamington: really strange, as I'm connected to Google Talk right now07:11
Kiongkuwhy Franke :p07:11
LamingtonJucato: I only just registered a new gmail account a short while ago... perhaps it will work later07:11
JucatoLamington: err.. probably?07:12
JucatoDr_Willis: heh :P07:12
Lamingtonah there it goes again07:12
KiongkuLamington: >07:12
LamingtonThere was a connection error: Operation is not supported.07:12
KiongkuLamington: hmm did u try enter gmail via webapge?07:12
KiongkuLamington: did u check in options if POP has been enabled..07:14
Lamingtonoh maybe I need to set it up as a "new" account in kopete... I didn't do that07:14
JucatoKiongku: POP? for Google Talk?07:14
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Lamingtonjust a sec07:14
Xanithanother thing about adept, there was things like xmms-themes and gkrellm-themes in gentoo portage, are those in adept?07:14
HawkwindXanith: No07:14
KiongkuJucato: not necessarily..07:14
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HawkwindXanith: You can get all 191 gkrellm themes though from the gkrellm site07:15
Xanithwhere is the gkrellm installation folder?07:15
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JucatoXanith: once you've enabled the universe repos, you can search in Adept for the packages, use keywords like "xmms" or "themes"07:16
JucatoXanith: if I'm not mistaken, /home/username/.gkrellm07:16
HawkwindXanith: If you are looking for where the themes would be, ~/.gkrellm207:16
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LamingtonIt still doesn't seem to want to connect07:17
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JucatoHawkwind: have a nice sleep :)07:17
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KiongkuLamington: are the settings correctly adjusted >>?07:17
JucatoHawkwind: and don't stumble when you wake up :P07:17
HawkwindJucato: Thanks.  See ya in a few hours07:17
ubotujabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, like MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org07:17
LamingtonKiongku: everything appears to be in order07:18
JucatoHawkwind: maybe you will, maybe you won't :P07:18
HawkwindJucato: Nah.  I get to sleep in a bit tomorrow since Liz is home and will get up with Daniel to get him off to school :)07:18
KiongkuLamington: actually what are u trying to do..?07:18
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LamingtonKiongku: connect :P (jabber/googletalk, with my new account)07:18
JucatoKiongku: he's trying to connect to Google Talk using Kopete/Jabber07:18
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pierrethmy Amarok does not work07:19
Jucatopierreth: please explain?07:19
Lamingtonpierreth: oh no !07:19
KiongkuJucato: not sure how it will work07:19
larson9999errr, take away law enforcement and you'd find all sorts of dead people popping up.  cheating spouses of all colors comes to mind07:19
JucatoKiongku: it works. I'm using it07:19
pierrethi will paste bin07:19
Jucatopierreth: what format are you trying to play?07:19
LamingtonIt should work, I've used it before... but for some reason its not working right now07:19
Jucatoprobably a connection problem?07:19
larson9999good night07:20
Jucatobye larson999907:20
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KiongkuLamington: darn.. there's always some reason when something mess up :p07:20
LamingtonJucato: possibly07:20
LamingtonI have a strange feeling that if I reboot and reset my modem... all will be well...07:20
Kiongkutry... who knows07:20
JucatoLamington: couldn't you just reset your modem?07:20
Kiongkui wonder if i mess up grub will my pc crash..07:21
LamingtonJucato: yeah, I'll try that first07:21
pierrethhere is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2395007:21
Jucatoin Linux, reboot isn't always the answer :P07:21
pierrethI cannot start it07:21
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Jucatopierreth: have you been able to start Amarok before?07:22
pierrethJucato: I already made a reboot07:22
Kiongkupierreth: try delete ur database?07:22
royalhi all07:22
pierrethJucato: I don't remember07:22
Jucatook.. that makes things a bit more difficult :)07:22
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pierrethKiongku: How can I delete the database?07:23
royallol you know what I think I ran out of things to do on my linux build :P07:23
pierrethJucato: I have just enebled the sound07:23
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Jucatoroyal: xgl?07:23
Lamington|awayoh guess what07:23
Lamington|awaysilly me07:23
royalXGL? what do you mean?07:24
Lamington|awayI had to change my firewall settings to allow jabber :P07:24
Kiongkuehrm seems another thing then..07:24
Lamington|awayD'oh !07:24
Kiongkugo go Jucato.. @_@07:24
Jucatoroyal: have you tried XGL? you said you ran out of things to do :P07:24
pierrethKiongku: How can I delete the db?07:24
royalno what is it?07:24
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:24
Kiongkui thought it may be was the db.. but then u said u only activated alsa..07:24
Xanithis there like a command to extract all tar.gz files in a folder?07:25
Lamington|awayIts all good folks... just had to update firewall config :P07:25
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JucatoXanith: tar xvzf <.tar.gz file>07:25
Jucatoor use Ark if you prefer GUI07:25
Xanithwell there's 191 themes...07:25
Xanithi dont want to type that command 191 times07:25
warpzoneXanith: have you tried tar -xvvzf *.gz07:25
royaleh no I don't think I could do that (no programing knoledge)07:25
warpzonei dont know if that would work though07:26
Xanithoh yea i forgot about that... let me try that07:26
pierrethwarpzone: this will not work07:26
Jucatoroyal: it doesn't need programming... (but I'm not familiar with it)07:26
Kiongkuwhy double v07:26
warpzoneooops nvm shot down07:26
warpzoneKiongku: um, more verbose than verbose? :-P07:26
royalthe only thinks I have yetto fix on it are problems I've been over before and cant fix... one is wine related so I'll skip that. second is how to get YTMND mp3's to play on Konquerer or Firefox07:26
pierrethll | grep .gz | xargs tar xvfz07:27
Kiongkupierreth: it u want to try delete the db i think u can find it at ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok07:27
royalI got flash, I got the MP3 fix, so I'm stumped there07:27
Kiongkucollection.db or something may be07:27
pierrethwell ls -al because ll is an alias of mine07:27
warpzonepierreth: whoa want to explain that command to me?07:27
Xanithwarpzone: that doesn't work...07:27
JucatoXanith: why not just right-click on the .tar.gz and choose Extract Here?07:28
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Xanithit doesn't have the extract here option in the menu07:28
pierrethi mean ls -al | grep .gz | xargs tar xvfz07:28
Xanithi have to open ark for each one and extract it...07:28
royalthat site that has images and plays sound over it07:28
pierrethls -al gives the list of the directory07:28
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Kiongkuroyal: basically a streaming website?07:29
warpzonepierreth: what is xargs?07:29
JucatoXanith: why do you have to open Ark? there's a right-click menu to "Extract Here:07:29
Xanithlike i just said... it's not there07:29
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pierrethwarpzone: it gives the output as first argument07:29
warpzonepierreth: and it will repeat the command for each line of output?07:30
pierrethwarpzone: put it will not work07:30
JucatoXanith: right-Click > Extract > Extract Here is missing?07:30
warpzonepierreth: oh :(((07:30
Papandapulo_plz help for Linux?07:30
Papandapulo_plz help for Linux?07:30
Xanithyea its not there at all07:30
pierrethwarpzone: sorry, i have to think again07:30
Jucatohm... that's strange07:30
warpzonepierreth: no prob, still handy to know though, thanks07:31
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Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
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Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
Papandapulo_I download Player but I dont instal07:32
Papandapulo_plz help for Linux?07:32
Papandapulo_plz help for Linux?07:32
Dr_Willisyou really expect help now?07:32
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:33
pierrethwarpzone: do you have spaces in your files?07:33
Dr_Willis#1 you dident ask a real question., so no one knows what you are talking about.. and i imagine MOST people have you on IGNORE now.07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
royal!Winning at life07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Winning at life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
osirisknock it off07:33
royalnow THERES a funny one for you07:33
pierrethwarpzone: ?07:34
warpzonepierreth: oh no this wasn't for me, I'm just curious to see if it can be done07:34
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plugswhat's the difference between flashplugin-nonfree and libflash-mozplugin?07:34
pierrethwarpzone: do you have spaces in the names of the files?07:34
warpzonepierreth: nah07:35
Jucatoplugs: libflash-mozplugin doesn't work anymore, afaik07:35
pierrethwarpzone: ls | grep .gz xargs -d \  tar xvfz07:36
pierrethwarpzone: i am not sure07:36
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warpzonepierreth: its cool, I will experiement around with the command and see what happens07:38
Lamington|awaygtg later all07:38
osiriscan someone point me to a fstab primer ? i need to add a fat32 partition with read/write to it07:38
pierrethwarpzone: I see an error again :-(07:38
Lamington|awayooh is anyone interested in E17 ? I have sources here :D07:38
osirisim running E17 now07:38
Lamington|awaynice :)07:39
osirisfrom cvs07:39
warpzoneosiris: um, the unofficial starter guide has instructions to mounting a fat32 partition07:39
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naliothyou guys should ask users what language they speak, and guide them to the appropriate #ubuntu-[language]  channel07:39
warpzoneosiris: i dont know about any of the official web pages07:39
Lamington|awayI've got sources you can add to your sources.list07:39
osirisLamington|away, nope.  im cvs07:39
plugswhat's the current flashplugin version and how do i get the current version?07:39
pierrethwarpzone: ls | xargs -d \  echo | grep .gz | tar xvfz07:40
Lamington|awayosiris: I know, it was a general comment07:40
Jucatonalioth: huh?07:40
warpzoneplugs: i would check the ubuntu wiki under restricted formats, it has the instructions for installing as well as enabling sound07:40
warpzoneplugs: I can link you if you'd like07:40
plugswarpzone please do =] 07:40
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)07:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:41
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pierrethwarpzone: I think the last one is OK07:41
DHGEanyone force-installed flash on amd64? acroreader works for me ...07:41
warpzoneplugs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:41
warpzonepierreth: thanks! I'm going to sit down and study that command :-P07:42
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pierrethwarpzone: you should read about shell programming07:43
warpzonepierreth: I started doing that yesterday :-P any recommended sites?07:44
pierrethwarpzone: I really like this one: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/07:44
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warpzonepierreth: thanks a bunch man07:46
Jucatogrr.. thunder/lightning..07:46
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Jucatohave to switch off..07:46
pierrethwarpzone: no prob07:46
pierrethso I can I delete the database?07:47
pierrethso how can I delete the database?07:47
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warpzonepierreth: thats beyond me :(07:48
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plugsso is there a way to view a website that requires flash 8?07:51
beermunkso why can I setup pptp vpn to my work and lose my internet, not be able to ping anything on the vpn but not lose connection on irc?  weird?07:52
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noiesmoplugs, I installed firefox for windows using wine and then added flash07:52
warpzoneplugs: not any standard way, nope. but flash9-beta for linux should be out very soon07:52
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warpzoneor yeah, the ff + wine thing07:53
noiesmowarpzone, anyidea when its due07:53
plugswindows firefox works with wine though? okay07:53
plugsi'll try that out07:53
warpzonenoiesmo: not a clue. very soon though, i know some people already have it working, just not the layman07:53
noiesmowarpzone, cool07:54
noiesmoplugs, yeah no hassles07:54
noiesmoplugs, install firefox then go to site that needs flash and install that way07:54
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noiesmoplugs, i do find a bit of lag in the flash but a mate say similar to windows07:55
plugsokay good plan. i'll try in a minute07:55
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Ashexfor those that don't read digg: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=17408:01
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warpzonehaha awesome08:04
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Samuli^the linux-video looks like someone with adhd made it :D08:12
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plugsI just installed firefox in wine, how do i run it?08:18
MuJfirefox in wine.. winefox? =P08:20
noiesmoplugs, try wine "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"08:20
noiesmoplugs, i have a desktop shortcut it also list a working director as "/home/noiesmo/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Mozilla Firefox"08:20
noiesmoplugs, mine put short cut on desktop and entry in menu with wine programs etc08:23
plugsright, that'll probly happen on restart08:24
serishemawhen trying to set up nfs file sharing i can't share or mount anything on one machine and the problem seems to be nfs statd failing to start08:24
serishemaany ideas?08:24
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nagyvhello! I would like to watch some videos from the net, but kaffeine always says that it "could not load any sound drivers" (or something similar). Before it worked well, I don't know what happened.08:36
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Admiral_Chicagozezelle, sup09:07
zezelleok salut09:07
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:10
Admiral_Chicagoje parle un peux de franncaise mais je vais sortir pour un peut09:10
zezelleAdmiral_Chicago:  comment09:11
zezelleje besoir d-aide09:11
fdoving!info hwdb-client-kde09:12
ubotuPackage hwdb-client-kde does not exist in any distro I know09:12
fdoving!info hwdb-client-kde edgy09:13
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ubotuhwdb-client-kde: KDE client program for the Ubuntu Hardware Database. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 304 kB, installed size 464 kB09:13
fdoving!info hwdb-client-gnome09:13
ubotuPackage hwdb-client-gnome does not exist in any distro I know09:13
zezellezerofool2005:  salut09:14
zezellezerofool2005:  you french09:15
zezelleok sir09:15
zezelleme name is claude09:15
zerofool2005Hi claude09:16
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zezelleZe Iam fench09:16
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zezellezerofool2005:  Iam french09:16
zerofool2005Used to do french in school09:17
zezelleyou ave linux09:17
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Admiral_Chicagozezelle, PM me09:18
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Admiral_Chicagozezelle, tu me peux parle en #ubuntu-chicago s'il te plait09:18
zezelleAdmiral_Chicago:  quoi09:18
zezelleAdmiral_Chicago:  you french09:19
Admiral_Chicagodonne moi 20 minutes09:19
Admiral_Chicagozezelle, non, mais je l'etudies en lycee09:19
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zezelleAdmiral_Chicago:  ok09:19
zerofool2005Better go get changed for school09:20
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zezellezerofool2005|a:  ok good working09:21
zerofool2005|aDoes kubuntu have a rar extractor?09:22
Admiral_Chicagozerofool2005|a, yes unrar-nonfree09:22
zezellezerofool2005|a:  you come  leter09:22
plugsDoes any version of MSN Messenger work in wine?09:25
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Netslayerplugs, use gaim/kopete/gnome equiv ... dunno about wine with msn09:30
plugsyeah i use kopete09:31
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Steven_Mwhere are the kdm session types stored?09:32
zezelleSteven_M: salut09:33
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ben__anyone here use opera?09:40
pierrethben__: i used it09:41
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ben__i need some help with networking, i can't load any internet pages in opera, its acting like its offline09:41
ben__i think its a problem with kubuntu not opera, although konqueror works fine09:42
pierrethdoes another browser works09:42
harryhi everybody,    a question: how can i generate some free space in my hd?   when i update my OS; the installation files are keeped? or erased after installation??09:42
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harrywith adept updater...09:42
pierrethharry: use du09:43
harry#pierreth, i have no idea, its my first day in linux...09:43
ben__pierreth: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=15877609:44
pierrethben__: i think there is a switch to pass from offline to on line in Opera09:44
pierrethharry: do you know how to use the command line09:44
ben__hmmm never seen it in the windows version nor the mac one09:44
harry#pierreth, more less09:44
harry#pierreth, i've been reading all day09:45
pierrethtype du in the command line09:45
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harry#pierreth, it would be something like  >sudo du   ??09:46
Infectono need sudo09:46
harry#Infecto, thanks   let me try09:46
pierrethharry: du is enough09:46
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pierrethben__: I don't know09:47
sorush20hi should I do dist-upgrade first or upgrade?09:47
pierrethben__: start opera from the command line09:47
harry#pierreth, wow that help was fast, i thoght i would be here for some hours09:47
ben__ok i couldnt find any offline/online switch in opera, are you confusing it with another web browser/file browser09:47
harrythanks to all09:47
sorush20hi should I do dist-upgrade first or upgrade?09:48
fdovingsorush20: update first, then upgrade or dist-upgrade09:48
sorush20but when you do the upgrade ubuntu says reboot..09:48
pierrethharry: you understand what du does?09:48
pierrethben__: may be...09:48
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harry#pierreth, erase installation files of the updateing service??  that's what i read about it...09:49
fdovingharry: update-files are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you can remove them with 'sudo apt-get clean' from the commandline.09:49
harryso what does du makes?09:50
pierrethharry: it is disk usage, it helps find big folders09:50
ben__so how would i start opera from the command line?09:50
fdovingdu only tells you how much space a certain directory/file occupies.09:50
fdovingben__: 'opera'09:51
pierrethben__: opera09:51
ben__;) ok09:51
harry:) thanks09:51
ben__some errors came up09:52
ben__X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16609:52
ben__  Major opcode:  14409:52
ben__  Minor opcode:  309:52
ben__  Resource id:  0x009:52
ben__Failed to open device09:52
pierrethben__: it is OK09:52
pierrethben__: normal errors09:52
ben__and this one09:52
ben__X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16609:52
ben__  Major opcode:  14409:52
ben__  Minor opcode:  309:52
ben__  Resource id:  0x009:52
ben__Failed to open device09:52
ben__shit sorry09:52
ben__ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.09:52
pierrethben__: it still normal09:52
pierrethben__: OK, this is may the problem09:53
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ben__it needs a package?09:53
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pierrethben__: I don't know, make a search for ld.so in your installer09:54
sorush20anyone here tried kde4?09:56
fdovingit's not ready for end-users yet. :09:57
sorush20well that i was I was asking about..09:57
sorush20If it was I would have tried it already.. but have you tried it as a developer etc?09:58
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sorush20when edgy comes out in october will dapper be obsolete ?10:01
ben__i hope they mave xgl with it10:02
Admiral_Chicagozezelle, still around?10:02
ubotults is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.10:02
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DHGEben__: Do you use amd64?10:03
ben__but i am on 32bit kubuntu10:05
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Steven_Mzezelle: what do you mean by salut?10:05
Admiral_ChicagoSteven_M, thats french...10:06
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ben__like i always do, i end up going back to windows because i can;t get anything to work without command line/downloading more shit10:07
ben__so bye10:07
Steven_MAdmiral_Chicago: meaning?10:07
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Steven_Mwhere are the kdm session types stored in kubuntu?10:10
Steven_Mthanks noiesmo :)10:12
noiesmoSteven_M, np :)10:12
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Steven_Mis there any problem i can help you out with in return noiesmo?10:14
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noiesmoSteven_M, just chillin10:14
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thomas___I keep getting this error on upgrading to edgy:10:15
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thomas___trying to overwrite `/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc', which is also in package gtk2-engines-clearlooks10:15
thomas___what's the dealio?10:15
noiesmoyou'll need to set an override10:15
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noiesmonot 100% but like sudo dpkg-divert --package packagename --divert /usr/share/themes/Clealooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc --rename /usr/share/themes/Clealooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.old10:18
noiesmothomas__, its not 100% right10:18
thomas___is this wiki'd anywhere or forum'd anywhere you know of off the top of your head? I already poked around and couldn't find anything10:19
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noiesmothomas__, not that im sure off otherwise try remove gtk2-engines-clearlooks and then reinstall after adding your package10:20
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Hobbseenoiesmo: usually sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/of/deb/deb.deb10:21
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noiesmoHobbsee, cool I didnt know that thought the dpkg-divert may have helped as no one else said anything10:22
Hobbseeit's cool10:22
Hobbseejust be careful with it :P10:22
noiesmoHobbsee, maybe you can help thomas__ with his problem10:23
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thomas___In case you didn't catch it before, Hobbsee:10:24
thomas___dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines_1%3a2.8.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):10:24
thomas___ trying to overwrite `/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc', which is also in package gtk2-engines-clearlooks10:24
thomas___urg, didn't know that would've overpasted10:24
Hobbseeit's cool10:25
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maltronHi, I just installed amarok 1.43 (having added it to my apt sources list).  To do so I had to enble backports and now adept keeps asking me if I want to upgrad checkinstall.  My question is, if this is necessary, why isn't it automatic, and if not, what disadvantages does it bring?10:25
maltronOne way or another I'd like to get rid of the notification!10:26
thomas___and I can't uninstall gtk2-engines-clearlooks cuz then it complains about dependancies as well10:26
Hobbseeuse sudo apt-get remove --purge gtk2-engines-clearlooks then update again10:26
douglashello, when my wife signs onto kde here space bar does not work. It works fine when I sign into my kde. What could be up??10:26
Hobbseegtk2-engines-clearlooks doesnt exist in edgy10:26
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thomas___it says taht gnome-themes and ubuntu-desktop have unmet dependencies10:27
thomas___should I ignore that?10:27
Hobbseemaltron: it may need to grab extra package10:27
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Hobbseethomas___: yeah, just for the minute.10:27
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Hobbsee!info gtk2-engines-clearlooks edgy10:27
ubotugtk2-engines-clearlooks: Clearlooks GTK+ 2.x engine and theme (dummy package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 112 kB10:27
Hobbsee!info gtk2-engines edgy10:28
ubotugtk2-engines: theme engines for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 828 kB10:28
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maltronHobbsee: yeah, I'd say so, but I'm a little uncomfortable installing it if it isn't automatic - is it likely to be buggy or untested... why not just install itself if it's needed?10:28
thomas___Hobbsee: :( same problem10:29
Hobbseemaltron: should be okay10:29
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Hobbseethomas___: you couldnt use sudo apt-get remove gtk2-engines-clearlooks?10:29
douglasany ideas aout the making the keyboard work?10:29
maltronHobbsee: thanks - I'll go ahead with it.  Are there generally any disadvantages from enabling backports?10:29
Jucatomaltron: it would actually be scarier if stuff were installed/upgraded without your knowledge right? :)10:30
Hobbseemaltron: not really - the quality is the same as universe stuff10:30
thomas___nope, talks about how gnome-themes and ubuntu-desktop depends on  a few things10:30
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thomas___gtk2-engines, gnome-orca, linux-headers10:30
Jucatohm.. disadvantages from backports... there's one. you get more choices :P10:30
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Hobbseethomas___: ignore them for a bit - remove the gtk2-engines-clearlooks first10:30
thomas___heh, that's what happens when I try to remove10:30
douglashello, when my wife signs onto kde here space bar does not work. It works fine when I sign into my kde. What could be up??10:30
Hobbseethomas___: after doing that, install ubuntu-desktop10:30
Hobbseedouglas: try moving her .kde/ and see if that changes anything?10:30
Hobbseehi Nickay10:31
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maltronHobbsee: yeah, but normally I click on fetch updates and it says status: upgradable; requested: upgrade"  This is the only package which actually needs me to change "no change" to "upgrade" before clicking "apply updates"10:32
NickayI would like to ask if there is lotus notes for Kubuntu?10:32
thomas___I do believe novell recently released lotus notes for linux10:32
Hobbseemaltron: weird.  it should be okay10:32
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maltronhobbsee: okay, I'm just paranoid I'm breaking my system.  It requires so much effort to recover when I do something really stupid sometimes it's better to reinstall from scratch!10:33
zezellethomas__:  salut ca va10:33
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Hobbseemaltron: heh.  it *should* be okay10:33
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NickayThomas__: So there isn't for kubuntu?10:33
maltronHobbsee: um, er, thanks!10:34
zezelle you inglish10:34
thomas___Nickay: Well, kubuntu is linux. There isn't a package specifically for kubuntu that I know of, however10:34
thomas___zezelle: American, VERY little french10:34
thomas___n'est ca va pas10:34
thomas___or someting10:34
zezelleth ok sir welcome to me sir10:34
Nickaythanks thomas__10:35
thomas___Nickay: sure, if you poke around novel's website or google it I think it might pop up. Oh, actually it may be IBM10:35
zezelleth thaks you sir10:35
thomas___anyways, It's out ther10:35
Infectomplayer: symbol lookup error: mplayer: undefined symbol: a52_resample10:35
thomas___Hobbsee: So, nothin', eh?10:36
zezelleInfecto:  hello sir10:36
Infecto;] 10:36
MDCoreHey all. I'm trying to switch from XP to Ubuntu and trying to keep my firefox profile: how do I get my profile across successfully ?10:36
Hobbseethomas___: i wonder.  try sudo apt-get remove --purge gtk2-engines-clearlooks gtk2-engines && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:36
Hobbseethomas___: if you can pastebin that, and all that it outputs, that'd be useful10:37
Jucatodoes anyone know which package installs the HTML/PHP/docbook/css contents for Quanta's Documentation tab?10:37
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berkesi've been usnig my ATI card for ages now, previous, on mandrake (it was called that, back then) I had no probs with GL / 3D,10:38
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berkesbut ever since I switched to (k)ubuntu it fails to run properly.10:38
berkeshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto tells me that I should not bother,10:38
berkesThe model number for your Radeon card is 8500 or above ....10:39
thomas___Hobbsee: http://paste.uni.cc/1020210:39
berkesmine is 7000. So any hints?10:39
Hobbseethomas___: want to pastebin apt-get -f install?10:40
Hobbseei'm not sure it'll do much though10:40
thomas___Hobsee: http://paste.uni.cc/1020310:41
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douglasHobbsee renaming .kde worked. So now how to I fix it without loosing all her other settings?10:43
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zezellesalut reee10:43
DeadS0ulany of you tried out krash yet?10:43
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Hobbseedouglas: trial and error - put some of the files back in, see if you have a problem, etc10:43
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Hobbseethomas___: grr.  so it is a packaging error.10:44
Hobbseethomas___: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines_1%3a2.8.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb10:44
thomas___alright, now throw down with a sudo apt-get upgrade?10:45
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Hobbseethomas___: yep10:46
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thomas___Hobbsee: pure unfettered genius. You rock10:46
Hobbseethomas___: i'm about to fix said bug anyway :)10:46
Hobbseei hope10:47
thomas___Oh, didn't know you were a dev10:47
ajmitchnot just 'a' dev10:47
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Lynourethe dev? =)10:50
Jucatothe DEVil... :P10:51
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Hobbseeoh you painful package.10:52
thomas___heh, that's what she... said..10:52
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JucatoHobbsee: --divert all your anger and frustrations on that package. sudo make mince meat out of it :P10:53
Jucatoer.. I'm not supposed to run "make" w/ "sudo"...  :(10:53
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llxcamxllso whats this full upgrade gonna do for me10:54
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Hobbseebug 5996910:56
Jucatohmm... Ubugtu??10:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fullupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
Hobbseeobviously that plugin isnt on in here10:57
abattoirllxcamxll: 'Full Upgrade' where? in adept?10:57
JucatoHobbsee: then why do we have Ubugtu here?10:57
abattoir@time UTC10:57
UbugtuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: September 19 2006, 08:57:5710:57
abattoirJucato: for that :P10:58
Jucatoabattoir: aaah that one...10:58
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HobbseeJucato: for other things....10:58
abattoirhehe, just kidding10:58
Hobbseeoh that sucks.  mvo didtn fix the package hard enough10:58
Hobbseeoh, wait10:58
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Hobbseethomas___: can you run apt-cache policy gtk2-engines please?10:58
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llxcamxllyeah in adept man10:59
Hobbseethomas___: gah.  known bug, fix is getting built.10:59
JucatoHobbsee: which gtk2-engine?10:59
HobbseeJucato: the one that replaces all of them10:59
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thomas___Hobbsee: that's cool. In fact, I may have ran into another11:00
thomas___but I ran a sudo apt-get install -f and things seem to be running again11:00
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Jucatollxcamxll: Full Upgrade in Adept = apt-get dist-upgrade; meaning it updates/installs stuff but might also remove packages when necessary11:00
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JucatoHobbsee: oh... that on Edgy?11:00
Jucatoaaaah oooh11:00
Hobbseegtk2-engines (1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2) edgy; urgency=low11:00
Hobbsee  * updated Conflicts/Replaces to match reality (lp: #59969)11:00
Hobbsee -- Michael Vogt <michael.vogt@ubuntu.com>  Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:29:18 +020011:00
Hobbseeit should be there11:00
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Jucato"to match reality"???11:01
Hobbseeoh, wait, i'ts not even in the archive yet, apparently11:01
Hobbseebut the source is here11:01
Hobbseesay what?11:01
HobbseeJucato: heh, yes.  codename for "i screwed it up"11:01
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Hobbseesomething's screwed up badly here11:02
Hobbseehe fixed it again11:03
JucatoHobbsee: I guess you'd notice by now that very few people here actually understand what you're saying/trying to do :P11:04
Hobbseei've FOUND THE SOLUTION!11:04
Tm_THobbsee: yes, solution is, turn off capslock ;)11:04
Hobbsee@lart Tm_T11:05
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Jucatohe is soooo going to be puzzled :)11:05
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thomas___man this is taking forever11:07
zezellecrazy no sir11:07
Fadein the continuing saga of xemacs, it's still bjorked.11:07
Hobbseethomas___: indeed.11:07
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Jucatowb Tm_T :)11:07
zezelleFade: hello11:07
HobbseeJucato: you want the translation?  see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gtk2-engines/1:2.8.0-0ubuntu3 and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gtk2-engines/+changelog11:08
michael159hi, i'm a kubuntu newbie and just trying out the dapper live cd with my amd64x2 (3800+) processor. unfortunately "cat /proc/cpuinfo" says only 1000 MHz per core instead of the expected 200011:08
michael159can anybodz help?11:08
thomas___michael159: cpu scaling11:08
thomas___michael159: I gotta 1.6Ghz that scales down to 800 when it's not busy11:09
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michael159hm, thomas___ . i made a quick performance check with the distributed.net client (64-bit version) and its only half as fast as the 32-bit version under win2k :/11:10
thomas___heh, I got nothin' else for ya then :D11:10
michael159okay, thanks anyway :)11:11
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harryhey, is there an equivalent package for libxineextracodecs in breezy badger??11:14
Jucatoharry: afaik, no :(11:14
abattoirharry: you want mp3 support in amarok?11:14
harry#abattoir, yeap11:15
abattoirharry: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.1011:15
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harry#abattoir, and divx, and all that stuff11:15
abattoirharry: in kaffeine? try installing the appropriate gstreamer plugin11:16
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thomas___Hobbsee: Looks like we're in the clear. Gonna give'r a reboot. See if she holds up11:16
Hobbseethomas___: nice :)11:16
thomas___thanks for your help, I really appreciate it11:16
abattoirharry: search for gstreamer(or just gst) in adept, and look at the descriptions, and install the package that you need.11:17
Jucatoabattoir: btw, the RestrictedFormats page do have instructions for Kubuntu Breezy11:17
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harryok ok   thanks guys  let me take a look around11:17
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JucatoKubuntu Edgy Knot 3 shots (features new USplash, Login Screen, KSplash, and new color scheme): http://jucato.multiply.com/photos/album/2411:21
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rockprincessdoes anyone know if there are any viruses for kubuntu?11:35
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JohnFluxrockprincess: not really11:38
JohnFluxrockprincess: google for linux viruses11:38
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rockprincessJohnFlux: I did...and it said "No viruses for Ubuntu"...11:38
rockprincessi just wanted to make sure that i'm on the safe side :D11:39
MDCoreKubuntu == Ubuntu + a K... I mean Ubuntu + KDE11:39
rockprincessthat's why I moved from windows to kubuntu....11:39
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rockprincessMDCore: yeah I know ;)11:39
JohnFluxrockprincess: i said linux, not ubuntu :P11:40
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rockprincessIs it adviseable though to have an Anti-Virus software?11:41
JohnFluxrockprincess: i don't think many people do11:42
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MDCorelinux/unix is less susceptible to viruses for a few reasons:11:44
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MDCore1 - most people don't run as root ala windows11:44
MDCore2 - it's not nearly as popular as windows11:44
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rockprincessMDCore: true, I understand your reasons......11:45
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MDCoreTo properly answer your question though... (sorry)11:46
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MDCoreRather have increased security than less.11:46
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paul____I've been (trying) to use kmail and kontact for the last few weeks, but I'm having problems11:56
paul____I'm using an IMAPS server11:56
paul____and it seems that there could be problems11:56
paul____anyone got any hints/suggestions?11:57
rockprincesswhat are the problems? maybe I can help?11:59
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paul____sorry - was on phone12:01
paul____right - issues are that sometimes it will not startup at all12:01
paul____you have to go kill all the imap connections12:01
paul____and then restart12:01
paul____and then after use for a few minutes12:01
paul____it goes and dies on me - it hangs on a connection12:02
paul____doesn't happen on POP3, just IMAp12:02
rockprincessmaybe it's your Imap server?12:02
paul____nope - been using it for 2 years with various other clients12:02
paul____been using kmail for a few weeks12:02
paul____no problems with other clients12:02
paul____any ideas?12:03
rockprincesshmm i see12:05
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rockprincessno ideas, mate...sorry!12:05
paul____ok thx12:06
paul____I'm really stuck on this one because kmail has egroupware support12:06
paul____sorry - kontact does12:07
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paul____and it would be really helpful for it to work properly (without needing to be restarted every few minutes) with imap12:07
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fat_basterd21what up ppls12:14
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fat_basterd21can you put kubuntu on a usb hdd12:15
copterit was easy to done on Hoary so probably it is still possible on Dapper12:16
fat_basterd21IS ANY1 LISTENING12:16
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mad_manNo excellent soul is exempt from a mixture of madness12:38
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leccii wont install coWPAtty and i istall openssl but make an error... someone can help me?12:39
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mad_manA good supervisor can step on your toes without messing up your shine12:40
mad_manf u cn rd ths, u r prbbly a lsy spllr12:41
Jucatomad_man: please try not to spam the channel. thanks12:42
mad_mannot spam just fun12:42
Jucatojust try not to over do it :)12:43
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mad_manno one was talking just throing some tid-bits out there :-)12:44
Jucato<mad_man> f u cn rd ths, u r prbbly a lsy spllr <--- tell that to Motorola :P12:44
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mad_manJucato: me is older person, late start, here spam comes in a can. is there channels where it's just open talking ?12:47
Jucatomad_man: something like #kubuntu-offtopic12:47
Jucatospam is too salty :P12:48
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CroXI really cannot get the "third level" characters of my keyboard to work.. Anyone care to help me out?01:12
CroXALT+<number> just acts as macros. Like, in Konversation, it switches tabs.01:12
CroXAnd coding PHP without is dollar sign is hard, to say the least. :P01:13
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Zakalwe_I'm getting this error today on an apt-get dist-upgrade -u on Edgy.   Setting up kdelibs-data (3.5.4-0ubuntu14) ... Failed to write hash table01:18
Zakalwe_Any Ideas?01:18
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MetaMorfoziShi all01:27
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jihi_labtopso ^01:42
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SillyZmm good morning01:42
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:43
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SillyZubotu: I have a ATI 9200, installed Kubuntu on it, and it configured everything correctly on a default installation01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I have a ATI 9200, installed Kubuntu on it, and it configured everything correctly on a default installation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
SillyZah ubotu is a bot... heheheh01:45
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_powermacsorry, no idea.01:56
SkrotAnyone now how to get video (with xv) on multiple monitors at the same time (running dual head clone view mode)?01:56
_powermaci still have a problem with perl/TK01:56
_powermacwow, sounds too complicated for me!01:57
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_powermacany perl/TK experts?01:57
octanhow do i grab a file with wget ?01:58
octanwget -r url/filename ?01:58
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_powermacok, anyone ever install Mapivi?02:03
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guptaI can't play this video: http://www.plasticlogic.com/downloads/800x600%20A5%20100ppi.wmv - w32codecs are installed.02:03
guptabtw thats a pretty nice eink vidoe ;)02:03
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abattoirgupta: plays for me02:04
_powermacwhat program do you use?02:05
guptaok I'll try with kaffeine02:05
guptahow's the video btw :D02:05
_powermacisn;t there a real player for linux?02:05
_powermachelix player?02:05
octanhow do i set up a crond job at 6pm ?02:05
abattoirgupta: its 11 sec. ?02:05
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_powermaci think there is a GUI control panerl for chron too02:06
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guptaoctan: try kcron02:07
octanno.. i need a cli command02:07
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:11
abattoircrexpo_: ^^^02:11
crexpo_ok sir02:11
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ootputhi guys, is there a way to change themes/colorschemes for kde apps when not running in a kde-environment?02:12
ootputsay, from ubuntu?02:12
ootputalso, i'm interested in changing the iconset to the tango set on kde-look02:13
abattoirootput: you can manually replace the files...02:13
ootputabattoir: there's no way to view and select themes?02:13
nictsahi to all , any help with knetworkmanager?02:13
abattoirootput: but i think it wont be easy02:13
ootputgupta: i don't have kde-desktop (or whatever the name of the meta-package is)02:13
abattoirootput: i'm not aware of one... other than installing kcontrol(which pulls down almost all of kde)02:14
frojndWhen I try to install macromedia flashplayer it announce an error: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Can someone help me install this plugin02:14
abattoirfrojnd: are you on an amd 64 machine w/ an amd64 install of kubuntu?02:14
ootputfrojnd: have you had any luck with a chroot install?02:14
frojndamd 6402:14
NeoSakifrojnd: get a 32-bit version of Firefox02:15
abattoirfrojnd: well, then there is no Adobe Flash for 64-bit02:15
NeoSakiabattoir: i use flash02:15
abattoirfrojnd: either do as NeoSaki says, or setup a chroot...02:15
frojndhow can I install 32-bit version for mozilla02:15
NeoSakifrojnd: do you specifically want mozilla or just firefox02:16
abattoirNeoSaki: well, there is no Adobe Flash for 64-bit, i guess you are using a 32-bit plugin :)02:16
NeoSakiand either way, adept/synaptic should have it02:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:16
frojndNeoSaki adept/synaptec is a directory?02:16
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frojndI am asking if there is a way to install 32-bit throuh apt02:17
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NeoSakifrojnd: adept and synaptic are a gui for apt-get02:17
tekeo___!mp3 tekeo___02:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 tekeo___ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:17
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frojndand I am searching for synaptec?02:18
abattoir!mp3 > tekeo___02:18
NeoSakifrojnd: k-menu -> system -> adept02:18
NeoSakiand search for firefox02:18
SillyZq: whats one of the 'better' mp3 players for linux beyond xmms? need graphic eq functions and hopefully something that has some audio enhancement capabilities02:19
SillyZrunning kubuntu of course02:19
abattoirSillyZ: amarok..?02:20
NeoSakiSillyZ: amaroK02:20
Martijn81I have a stupid question, sort of.... kmail lists an email in the send folder with sender as my main account while i've send it with my second. Isn't this strange?02:20
abattoirSillyZ: its already installed Kmenu->Multimedia->Amarok02:20
SillyZamarok... ok ill give it a shot02:20
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NeoSakihey Jucato02:20
Jucatohi :)02:21
abattoirSillyZ: you might want to upgrade to the latest version though02:21
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SillyZhmmm dosent have the 'crunch' that xmms has.... seems a bit 'toned' down ( yes Ive set the eq )02:22
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SillyZhmmm if i crank everything to max audio, system audio and audio levels in amarok, now i can almost get the volume level i like02:23
SillyZit is much nicer than xmms tho ill say that02:24
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frojndI've installed firefox with adept; where is now firefox ?02:26
NeoSakikmenu -> internet -> firefox02:27
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NeoSakithen just get the firefox plugin for Flash02:27
frojndNeoSaki, I've allready cheked there but it's not there :S02:27
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frojndI got the same problem with kmplayer02:28
NeoSakifrojnd: whatchu mean?02:28
frojndwhe I go to Kmenu ->internet there is no firefox icon :S02:28
Jucatofrojnd: type this in Konsole to update the K Menu: kbuildsycoca --incremental (ignore the error messages) then check your menu again02:28
Jucatofrojnd: btw, Ubuntu doesn't use the official Firefox icon. it's a customized icon02:29
frojndJucato tnx ;)02:29
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frojndwhere did u pick that command02:29
Jucatofrojnd: from someone else :)02:29
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SillyZnow there was one application under g-ubuntu that I noticed was prebuilt, but under k-ubuntu, it does not seem to be available.... is there anyway of manually installing this package???02:30
JucatoSillyZ: what app is that?02:31
benjiman...I am ready to break something...oh wait it's already broke...02:31
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benjiI can't access anything from my source.list from apt-get or adept02:31
benjiI have tried everything02:32
xwolf-SillyZ go to adept and look for the package.02:32
JucatoSillyZ: it's in the repositories02:32
ubotuantennavis: antenna visualization software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 280 kB02:32
benjiapt-get is trying to connect to archive.ubuntu.com at ip address that doesn't sound right....when I ping it, it says ip
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benjianyone got any ideas?02:33
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NeoSakiummm >_>02:33
NeoSakisounds like a screw up in your hosts02:33
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SillyZtheres a 0.3 version but I found a 0.25 version, ill see if I can get that to install (antennavis)02:34
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benjiI checked the nameservers in the /etc/resolve.conf02:35
SillyZkewl 0.2.5 runs.... woohoo! now to find 0.302:35
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SillyZ,dsc is debin source correct?02:36
xwolf-benji consider getting a fresh sources.list file..02:36
benjiyeah...did that, twice02:36
benjireplaced it twice already02:36
benjino difference02:36
benjiI'm wondering about this host file in etc02:37
benjiif maybe I should try something there02:37
xwolf-hm. so it is rerouting the repos to then... yeah, probably hosts file02:37
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benjishould I just add my router ip there?02:37
SillyZI think we got it ... found a 0.3-2 version of antennavis ... thanks yall02:37
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benjiso does anyone know what I might want to add to this hosts file?02:40
benjiit has the thing going on....02:41
benjibut nothing else02:41
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benjiI mean I guess I could add the archive.ubuntu.com there witht he current ip address02:43
benjibut that would just be a temporary workaround....02:43
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tekeo___hello I want to install cedega and I'm trying to do so from a .deb file so I do sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb however I get this error:02:44
tekeo___Unpacking cedega (from cedega_5.1_i386.deb) ...02:44
tekeo___dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cedega:02:44
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tekeo___ cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0); however:02:44
tekeo___  Package xlibs is not installed.02:44
tekeo___dpkg: error processing cedega (--install):02:44
tekeo___ dependency problems - leaving unconfigured02:44
tekeo___Errors were encountered while processing:02:44
tekeo___ cedega02:44
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NeoSakitekeo___: Simple, install xlibs02:45
SillyZok using dpkg whats the command to uninstall ?02:45
tekeo___cannot find the package02:45
tekeo___I find xlibs-dev though02:45
NeoSakiuse it02:45
tekeo___NeoSaki: still doesn't work02:46
NeoSakiwhat version of xlibs, tekeo___?02:46
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NeoSakior google for xlibs, download source, configure and compile02:47
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tekeo___NeoSaki: 7.0.002:47
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tekeo___NeoSaki: when I do sudo apt-get install xlibs I get this:02:48
tekeo___However the following packages replace it:02:48
tekeo___  libxft1 xkeyboard-config02:48
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ruffyhey all02:48
ruffyi have a bit of a problem02:48
tekeo___NeoSaki should I install xkeyboard-config?02:48
ruffyi set up kubuntu02:48
ruffythrough alternate install cd02:48
ruffybut i dont seem to have any root account02:49
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benjiget used to it02:49
benjithere is no root in kubuntu02:49
ruffysu asks for a password, but doesn't accept anything02:49
benjisudo this and sudo that02:49
ruffywell how do i setup the sudo password02:49
xwolf-tekeo___ i've seen somewhere this xlibs package isn't that important. i downloaded a dummy package and installed it just to get a green light for cedega02:49
xwolf-but i still couldn't install anything with cedega :P02:50
powermac_sudo -s02:50
benjiI have no clue....you were never asked for a password during the install02:50
powermac_will put you into root permanently in konsole02:50
ruffyonly for an account password02:50
benjiand that one won't work?02:50
benjiyeah, sudo -s02:50
benjia good trick02:50
ruffyi'll try it02:50
powermac_so dothis: sudo -s02:51
powermac_in ckonsole02:51
powermac_then it asks for your password02:51
ruffyasks for a password02:51
ruffywhich i dont have02:51
powermac_right, so put it in02:51
ruffyit worked02:51
ruffyk thanks02:51
powermac_did you install the system?02:51
powermac_then you have a password02:51
powermac_ok, if you want to move things in a GUI,02:52
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powermac_now type "konqueror"02:52
powermac_and konquerer will open with root priveledges02:52
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benjigood tip...can I make an alias or script to open konqueror as root?02:53
galorinI'm looking for a way that I can have kdm automatically start 2 sessions, and log them both in automatically as different users.02:53
powermac_perhaps in the k menu someplace02:53
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benjiI kind of believe that a gui should be just that...haha02:54
powermac_maybe in the "run a command"02:54
benjithey should add a file manage as root thing in kubuntu02:54
powermac_actually, you can creat another user02:54
powermac_which logs in as root02:54
powermac_in a GUI02:55
powermac_i read how to do that someplace02:55
powermac_search for "GUI root user kubuntu" or something like that02:55
benjiI like how in mepis you right click some root privleged file and it has the option 'edit as root', or 'rn as root'02:55
benjior is that another distro02:55
benjican't recall02:55
powermac_you have to modify a config file someplace02:55
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powermac_well, konqueror also has an "execute a command" option nder the "tools" menu02:56
benjigreat...now I can't even ping archive.ubuntu.com02:57
powermac_or keep 2 konqueror window open, 1 as root, the other as normal02:58
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benjisomething really screwy is happening with my dns resolve...02:58
benjiI wish I was smart enough to fix it02:59
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xwolf-to open konqueror as root, alt f2 -> kdesu konqueror02:59
powermac_wehre to put that comand?02:59
benjisometimes the archive.ubuntu.com will ping and sometimes it won't02:59
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ruffyhey again'03:00
ruffywhats the address for cups?03:00
ruffyto setup my printer03:00
benjithe address for cups?03:00
benjiset it up with add programs03:01
ruffyit's like anb IP03:01
ruffyto access my printer03:01
benjiI have no idea about that03:01
ruffythen how do i turn on hplips?03:01
benjiis it a network printer or something?03:01
ruffyit's not accessing hp setup command03:01
fignewruffy: from the command line?03:02
benjihey, does this happen to anyone else, when you click on an icon on menu app, it pretends like it is busy opening and then just disappears and never opens???  how bizarre....03:03
MuJwhat are you trying to launch?03:03
benjiit's done it with several apps03:04
benjiwireless assistant03:04
xwolf-benji the icon bounces for 30 seconds, then it stops. but the program still opens (or keeps trying to)03:04
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powermac_for me it happened on gimp03:04
benjinah, it bounces for that long and then just goes away03:04
MuJmaybe you should try to launch them from konsole and see what if there's some errors03:04
benjigood idea03:04
powermac_but i then went to adept and saw it wasnt installed!03:05
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MuJadept is wierd.. use apt-get ;P03:05
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bobbinor apititude03:06
benjiwell, I opened from the konsole and it worked...03:06
benjibut it did say X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 first off03:06
bobbini mean aptititude :-)03:06
benjidon't know what that means03:06
bobbinaptitude, excuse me03:06
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MuJbenji: it's not important03:07
benjiI hope the next kubuntu release is better...03:07
benjithis one has given me headaches03:07
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ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.003:07
zorglu_benji: it was for you :)03:07
benjiI'll read it03:07
zorglu_benji: the next one will be better and you will be more used to the linux way :) so better all around :)03:08
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benjiyeah, true...03:08
MuJI bet efty will give lots of headaches when it's released03:09
benjinow if I could just use apt-get....03:09
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zorglu_benji: what is the trouble with apt-get03:10
MuJapt-cache search package, apt-get install package03:10
benjiwhy oh why does it think every repository source is
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benjiand connection times out03:10
benjireplaced the sources.list already03:10
benjigot rid of ip603:10
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MuJdid you run apt-get update?03:11
zorglu_benji: explain it in more details please :)03:11
benjichecked my resolve list name servers03:11
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zorglu_benji: what do you do and what does it do you dont like :)03:11
benjiI run apt-get update and it says....03:11
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benji0% connenting archive.ubuntu.com03:11
benjiand the connection times out03:12
zorglu_can you cut past the output of apt-get ?03:12
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benjihold on03:12
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MuJyour resolv is fudged up03:12
powermac_know anything about perl/TK?03:12
powermac_i'm trying to use MApivi, a picture viewer03:13
zorglu_powermac_: i guess the dedicated channel for this has a lot more people knowing stuff about it :)03:13
powermac_wehre is that?03:13
zorglu_powermac_: #tcl seems a good place for that :)03:13
powermac_ok, i'll try. thanks.03:14
benjiwell, i can't highlite to copy for some reson....03:14
zorglu_benji:  to learn how to cut/paste is a first step in getting efficient help :)03:14
benjibut it says [connecting to nz.archive.ubuntu.co, {
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
benjiI'm telling you it won't copy03:14
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zorglu_let see if the bot got a page on this :)03:14
marcus_Is the 27 kernel unbroken does anybody know?03:15
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xwolf-well, i've just downloaded it. but haven't restarted yet :)03:15
benjieventually it says Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (, connection timed out03:15
xwolf-if it's broken, somebody ought to say it right now :P03:15
marcus_thats why i asked :)03:16
MuJthat ip is wroonng!03:16
benjiyeah...I reckon so03:16
Tm_TMuJ: you're wrong ip03:16
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benjiwhen I ping it I get
benjiall my internet works except when it comes to apt-get or adept03:17
zorglu_what about web browsing03:17
benjiyep, no prob03:17
zorglu_and btw fix the cut/past thing :)03:17
benjiI', doing msn, chat, web browsing03:17
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benjicut is working now...03:18
zorglu_ok do 'telnet archive.ubuntu.com 80' and cut/past the result03:18
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benjisometimes it won't highlight for some reason03:18
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zorglu_hehe :)03:18
zorglu_there is a doc to learn how to do that03:18
benjiokay, hold on03:18
marcus_anybody have a guess why fglrx-ati has problems with radeon express cards?03:18
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benjitelnet connected03:18
marcus_sure doesn't like the one in my toshiba. :)03:18
zorglu_hehe benji you really dont like cut/paste :)03:19
marcus_oh yeah and I would like to install linux on my fujitsu. Any way to do this lacking an external cd?03:19
benjiI'll try to improve in that area03:20
zorglu_ok i have to go, but cut/paste is important for us because we need to know exactly what is going on :) thing which seems unimportant to you may be very important for us to help you :)03:20
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benjiokay wierd...I just exited telnet and tried spt-get update...03:20
zorglu_there is a whole book indexed on the ubuntu web site to learn how to do common thing03:20
benjiand it started working03:20
zorglu_hehehe :)03:20
NeoSakioh the fun of compiling a linux kernel03:20
zorglu_cool :)03:20
benjiyeah...but it seems like a bug in konsole03:21
benjithat sometimes it just randomly won't highlight03:21
zorglu_benji: either you are the only one getting the bug or you simply dont know yet how to use it :)03:21
benjileft click and drag over text to select....03:22
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benjisometimes it works...sometimes not03:22
benjiin konsole03:22
benjianyway, I think I still will have to fix something....sometimes I am able to ping the archives and then a second later, I'm not...03:23
benjiafter this should I run apt-get upgrade?03:23
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tony_hello :)03:24
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benjilinux reminds me of DOS...so much typing....03:25
tony_i was wondring, i just installed ubuntu server , so now i have daulboot using grub, i was wondring , how can i remove the server and grub , and returning my system to single boot?03:25
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NeoSakitony: how did you install grub, to the MBA or to the /boot/ portion?03:26
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tony_i have single harddrive, partitioned in two ext3 and swap .. so i installed the server on second partition03:26
tony_so i guess is MBA ????03:27
zorglu_tony_: simply put the grub timer to a very short delay ?03:27
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zorglu_like you got the partition you want to boot 1 sec after grub start, would that be good ?03:27
tony_if i don't do anything , grub is  loading shell03:28
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tony_how can i do that ??03:29
tony_just wondring03:29
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zorglu_there is a timeout variable in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:29
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tony_if i delete the second partition , would that get me back to single boot ?03:29
zorglu_timeout         1003:29
arienh4hmm, this is the 3rd time i'm asking, but KPersonalizer keeps starting03:29
zorglu_something like that03:29
benjihmmm....I wonder how much of my precious bandwidth this apt-get update is using....03:29
arienh4i tried 2 workarounds03:29
zorglu_tony_: and you got the default vraiable which determine which partiion is started by default03:30
zorglu_tony_: something like "default         0"03:30
zorglu_tony_: with those 2 variables you could reach your goal i think, if i understand what you want :)03:31
zorglu_ok now see ya. and have fun :)03:31
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arienh4there was a workaround for the startup scirpt i didn't try, but i can't find it anymore03:31
benjiyou can go into grub command line as well, I did it once...03:31
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benjiand choose the partition I wanted03:32
tony_well, default is set to 0 and timeout set to 3.. do i have to remove # signe03:32
rodhi, can anyone help with getting Xgl working with Dapper?  I'm trying to install the compiz-kde package but get a problem with dependencies?03:32
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jatoswheres the best place to get help compilikng glibc?03:33
NeoSakijatos: what seems to be the problem?03:33
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copter_arienh4 : you still have problems with KPersonalizer poping all the time?03:34
jatosI get that error when trying to compile it03:34
copter_arienh4 : ok wait03:34
jatoswhilst I am compiling it on kubuntu, I am chroot'ed into an LFS temp env03:34
copter_arienh4 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23143203:34
copter_arienh4 : had the same problem couple of days ago03:35
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arienh4that didn't work for me...03:36
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rodhi, can anyone help with getting Xgl working with Dapper?  I'm trying to install the compiz-kde package but get a problem with dependencies?03:36
copter_wow. it worked like a charm for me03:36
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arienh4because the file is empty03:37
copter_maybe you edited wrong file03:37
copter_create it03:37
copter_and add 2 lines03:37
copter_[General] 03:37
tekeo___I want to install a newer version of cedega and need to remove the old one however it doesn't work when I do: sudo dpkg -r cedega.deb I get this message: dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in. Anyone know how to uninstall it?03:38
Tm_Ttekeo___: sudo dpkg -r cedega03:38
Tm_Tif you remove, you don't name the package but the app03:38
copter_sudo apt-get remove cedega03:39
copter_afaik dpkg accepts only files, not name03:39
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Admiral_Chicagorod, i got it to work on Edgy03:40
Admiral_Chicagotry asking in #ubuntu-xgl03:40
rodok, thanks a lot Admiral_Chicago!03:41
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benjihaha, so finally, the apt-get update finished succesfully...and the first thing I did after was:03:42
benjiping archive.ubuntu.com03:42
benjiPING archive.ubuntu.com ( 56(84) bytes of data.03:42
benjistalled out03:42
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jeismacan someone help mewit kubuntu?03:44
benjiwell, I am a newbie as they say, but tell me the prob03:45
benjimaybe I have come accross it03:45
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:45
NeoSakijeisma: don't ask for help, ask a question03:45
jeismai want to run firefox03:45
jeismai downloaded it03:45
Admiral_Chicagojeisma, i can try03:45
jeismaand it just opens the file?03:46
jeismarather than running it03:46
Jucatohm... "don't ask to ask, just ask.. :)"03:46
jeismato install03:46
vgeor get it from apt-get03:46
Admiral_Chicagojeisma, no03:46
NeoSakijeisma: kmenu -> system -> adept03:46
Jucatojeisma: you can try installing it from the repositories to make your life easier :)03:46
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Admiral_Chicagoopen up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"03:46
jeismai trried using adept03:46
jeismaah ok03:46
arienh4i'm wondering, what would happen if you install the kde package itself?03:47
NeoSakiman...compiling the modules for the kernel is taking longer than compiling the kernel itself03:47
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Jucatoarienh4: which kde package?03:47
benjiwell, whenever I try to install .deb packages, I can never find the application afterwards03:47
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benjianyway, I gotta get to sleep...thanks for all the advice guys03:48
Jucatobenji: if it installed properly, it should (emphasis on should) be added automatically to the K Menu. But sometimes it doesn't03:48
Jucatobenji: if that happens, you can type in "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in Konsole (ignore error messages)03:48
benjiyeah, it didn't on the two I tried03:48
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benjioh, okay...03:48
Jucatobenji: it might also be the case that the apps weren't really meant to have K Menu entries03:49
jeismai typed in sudo apt-get install firefox but it didnt find it?03:49
jeismaits in my home folder03:49
arienh4Jucato: THE kde package03:49
Jucatojeisma: most probably, you don't have the necessary repositories enabled03:49
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE03:50
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arienh4i think it just installs much03:50
jeismahow do i get the necessary respositories enabled?03:50
NeoSakiJucato: or he/she hasn't updated03:51
Jucatoarienh4: yes. it installs almost everything :)03:51
arienh4by the way, how do you change the partitons?03:51
NeoSakijeisma: try sudo apt-get update03:51
NeoSakijeisma: then try sudo apt-get install firefox03:51
JucatoNeoSaki: if the repositories aren't enabled,  it makes no sense to update :)03:51
NeoSakiw00t down to the /driver/"s" compiling03:52
Jucatojeisma: launch Adept (from K Menu > System)03:52
NeoSakiJucato: BUT if they were enabled, just hadn't updated the list, he wouldn't be able to install/find it03:52
JucatoNeoSaki: ah you mean updating AFTER enabling. that's different from just plain updating :)03:53
arienh4by the way, how do you change the partitons?03:53
jeismait says its being referred to from another pakage? and has no installation candidate03:53
oktohi..does amarok (really) depends on libgtk2?03:53
jeismaok i have adept open03:53
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Jucatojeisma: in the Adept menu at the top, select "Manage Repositories"03:54
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Jucatomake sure that the "main" repositories are enabled (except the one with dapper-backports, unless you want that, too)03:54
oktoisnt libgtk for gnome? and amarok is a pure KDE app?03:55
NeoSakimeh, enable them all and let god sort it out ;)03:55
NeoSakigtk isn't for anything03:55
JucatoNeoSaki: gtk is for GTK apps.03:55
Admiral_Chicagojeisma, really?03:55
NeoSakiJucato: I ment in specific for desktop03:55
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:55
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Tm_TNeoSaki: well, amarok might need libgtk for ipod support etc03:56
NeoSakiit all depends on who programs it with what03:56
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oktoyes ...but does amarok depends on it? isnt amarok is a pure KDE app?03:56
tony_hello again . .03:56
Admiral_Chicagothats not it...03:56
JucatoTm_T speaketh, Jucato listeneth...03:56
Tm_Tokto: yes03:56
Admiral_Chicago!info firefox03:56
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+ (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB03:56
Admiral_Chicagojeisma, to add extra repos...03:56
Tm_Tokto: if I define "pure" same way that you do03:57
tony_ok.. need to remove my second ubuntu that i installed on same harddrive .. :) .. i have ubuntu desktop and server on single HD with two partition :)03:57
oktoTm_T: but i do need libgtk to have amarok then?03:57
Admiral_Chicagojeisma, i think that link should help03:57
jeismaok i enabled the ones that said main03:57
Tm_Tokto: not amarok itself, but maybe for some functionality to amarok03:57
jeismanow what?03:57
Tm_Tokto: what's exactly your point?03:58
Jucatojeisma: click on Apply (at the bottom) then Fetch Updates (at the top)03:58
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Admiral_Chicagotry it again03:58
oktoTm_T: ok..i guess you right about ipod..i just want to get rid of libgtk...but when uninstall it also remove amarok...:(03:59
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato, is the package mozilla-firefox?03:59
Admiral_Chicagonot sure03:59
Tm_Tokto: yes, amarok uses gtkpod to ipod support03:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: no. just firefox03:59
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^rob^what distro is kubuntu 6.06.1 - dapper or breezy ??03:59
Admiral_Chicagoi have to go to class03:59
Tm_Tokto: and gtkpod needs libgtk03:59
^rob^i downloaded an iso - desktop.03:59
Admiral_Chicago^rob^, dapper03:59
NeoSakiokto: why do you need to get rid of libgtk03:59
jeismanow what?03:59
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato, that's what i thought, i have class now thanks04:00
Jucatojeisma: try looking for firefox and installing it04:00
Jucatoin Adept04:00
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oktoTm_T: to have "pure" kde..:)04:00
oktoNeoSaki:  to have "pure" kde..:)04:00
NeoSakiokto: there is no "pure" kde04:01
tony_how do i remove daul boot ?? ubuntu server / ubuntu desktop ???04:01
Jucatoheh.. purist :)04:01
manmy keyboar dont works in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????04:01
NeoSakiman: what type of keyboard?04:02
manmy keyboar dont works in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????04:02
Tm_Tokto: there's no such thing04:02
Tm_Tokto: unless you have only kdecore04:02
oktoJucato: just try..:) i dont think you can in (k)ubuntu then..)04:02
Jucatookto: yes. better remove Ubuntu, because  it isn't pure KDE :P04:02
jeismado i need o install all of those firefox stuff?04:02
NeoSakijeisma: no04:03
NeoSakijeisma: just firefox04:03
Jucatojeisma: just right-click on the one that says plain "firefox"04:03
oktoTm_T: the only kde app that got remove along with libgtk is only amarok, in my case04:03
Jucatookto: app-install-data is also a GNOME thing that Adept depends on, AFAIK04:03
jeismai requested to install.. now what?04:03
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oktoJucato: i dont have app-install-date anymore..also kubuntu-desktop04:04
tony_click on apply changes04:04
Jucatojeisma: now click on "Preview Changes" to double check that nothing will be rmoved, then on Apply Changes04:04
oktoJucato: adept gone too04:04
Tm_Tokto: yes, but libgtk isn't only "non-kde" thing there04:05
jeismacan you rin AIM on kubuntu?04:05
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Jucatookto: but seriously, I just don't get this "pure KDE" thing... Don't get me wrong, I love KDE extremely. I just don't get the reason why one would have to do that...04:05
Jucatooh well, different strokes for different brushes04:05
Tm_Tjeisma: you have kopete04:05
tony_kopete is very cool04:05
jeismais that the smae thing as AIM?04:05
jeismayou can talk to AIM?04:06
tony_allows you to connect to different protocol as well04:06
Jucatojeisma:Kopete is a multi-protocal IM client: Yahoo, MSN, AIM, Jabber04:06
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Tm_Tjeisma: well, you can use it for aim and msn and yahoo and jabber and...04:06
jeismaah ok04:06
Tm_Ttony_: it is04:06
oktoJucato: no offence..just trying to...maybe next experiment i try to get pure GTK...now that would be easy..:)04:07
tony_ok , now to my big problme04:07
Jucatookto: heh, that speaks a lot to me :P04:07
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frojndwhat's the command if u wanna check how much space do u have on your hd04:07
tony_need to remove ubuntu server from my system , back to single boot04:07
Jucatofrojnd: df -h04:07
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oktoJucato: of course...;)04:07
manmy keyboard doesnt work in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????04:07
Jucatookto: here' what you might want to try to get a pure KDE, or at least as pure as it can be in Kubuntu: server (minimal) install using the Alternate Install CD + x-window-system-core + kde-core04:08
Jucatoor replace "kde-core" with "kde"04:08
epIs it safe to remove some of the older kernels showing up in Grub?04:09
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oktoJucato: ok, i try that, i went from minimal, xorg and kubuntu-desktop...i then remove kubuntu-desktop and peel it off one by one but stuck with amarok since it needs libgtk04:10
JohnFluxis there a meta package to install gcc, automake etc04:10
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Jucatookto: well, that's one way. but installing kde-core or kde would make you work from the ground up, adding packages rather than removing04:11
JucatoJohnFlux: build-essential04:11
jeismais there a way to speed up startup?04:11
flavioribeirowhen ive upgraded my pc, my keyboard stopped...anyone knows why?04:11
JucatoJohnFlux: but I don't think automake is included04:11
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oktoJucato: hmm..do you think that would make any diffirence with amarok (and its ipod support)?04:13
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Jucatookto: not really sure on that04:13
JohnFluxJucato: thanks for the help04:13
flavioribeiroafter the sudo apt-get upgrade, my pc doesnt detect keyboard anymore.. any1 know why?04:13
oktoJucato: Ok..thanks anyway04:14
jvffDoes Kubuntu (for x86-64) have the kernel sources and dev tools?04:14
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erik_hi all04:15
Sannejvff: think so, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com for packages and architectures04:15
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erik_i got 1 simple question: how do i update the whole system? (like windows update)04:16
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ep I have both  kernels 2.6.15-26.47-k7 and 2.6.15-26.48-k7 installed.  This seems a little redundant to me. When I mark the ".47" one for removal in synaptic is shows up red highlighted instead of blue.  Am I screwing up?04:16
erik_and how do i get adept to see package from the internet, and not just local packages04:17
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Jucatoerik_: if there are updates available, you will receive a notification icon on your system tray04:17
MenZaerik_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:17
MenZa(for the first)04:17
horizonhey there04:17
horizonmay name is ufuk fromistanbul04:17
jeismahow come firefox failed to install the flash/real player plugins?04:18
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horizoni would like to know if someone knows what happened to kubuntu dvd download links? all are gone!!04:18
Jucatojeisma: installing the flash/real player plugins using Firefox doesn't work like in Windows04:18
jeismaso how do i need to do it?04:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:18
TheGateKeeperjeisma: using 32bit or 64bit?04:19
horizonanyone can answer me please?04:19
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horizoni would like to know if someone knows what happened to kubuntu dvd download links? all are gone!!04:19
Jucatohorizon: have you tried looking into other download mirrors/sites?04:20
erik_@jucato, bit weird that the kubuntu dvd hasnt got any updates right?04:20
jeismano idea what i'm using, probably 32bit04:20
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horizonyeah all the official web site on kubuntu04:20
Jucatoerik_: I'm not sure about it. thought they got updated too04:20
horizonplus torrent links04:20
horizonall linked to kubuntu pages04:21
horizonfor example04:21
horizonis gone04:21
horizonwhick is uk mirror04:21
horizonalso us04:21
horizonireland torrents as well04:21
erik_but that are .torrent files04:21
erik_what is the big deal with the dvd btw?04:22
Jucatohorizon: hold on04:22
erik_i didnt see any differneces04:22
horizonbut the torrents are also linked to the same pages and doesnt work for 3 days04:22
Jucatoerik_: more software available for installation offline04:22
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erik_so kynaptic is on the dvd?04:23
Jucatoerik_: probably.04:23
jeismain kopete, i hid my menubar, how do i get it back?04:23
horizoni was downloading amd 64 bit dvd iso04:23
Jucatojeisma: Ctrl+M04:23
horizonand now it is interrupted at 2.5 gb04:23
horizonand not working for 3 days04:24
horizonany alternative links to download??04:24
erik_jucato do you know the apt-get line for kynaptic?04:24
horizonexcept these tree mirrors on page and torrent?04:24
Jucatoerik_: sudo apt-get install kynaptic ?04:25
Jucatoerik_: are you looking for kynaptic or kynaptics?04:25
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NeoSakianyone here have the current kubuntu kernel precompiled?04:25
epAlso in addition, to the k7 kernels, I have two 386 kernels installed.  Should I keep em around?  Can I even boot from them?  They show up in grub but I'm afraid to try it.04:25
admin_hey all, i've just install ubuntu, on kubuntu u can edit root only files but going "edit as root" but under ubuntu it doesnt have that option, does anyone know why?04:25
NeoSakithe current i386 kubuntu kernel04:25
erik_"E: Kon pakket kynaptic niet vinden" (couldnt find kynaptic)04:26
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TheGateKeeperadmin_: ubuntu uses sudo04:26
admin_TheGateKeeper: how do i go about that?04:26
Jucatoadmin_: Ubuntu doesn't have that right-click option04:27
horizonjucato, will I wait for more?04:27
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Jucatohorizon: currently asking around04:27
jeismais there a way to speed up startup?04:27
admin_Jucato: how do i do it then mate?04:27
jeismahow much memory does kubuntu use?04:28
horizoni am waiting for you04:28
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Jucatoadmin_: you need to edit a config file? "gksudo gedit <filename>"04:28
TheGateKeeperadmin_: when you installed it you will have created a user & password so: sudo bash_command & when it asks you for a password use the one you set up for your user04:28
horizonjucato please send me pm when you got a response04:28
TheGateKeeper!sudo > admin_04:28
epLet me simplify the question.  Please answer. I'm selecting some of these old kernels for removal in adept.  Fixing to hit "Apply Changes".  Anything wrong with this?04:29
horizonmain conversation windows is so crowded04:29
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Sanneep: it's always a good idea to have at least two kernels on the machine. They should work fine. The only problem I see is that if you have proprietary graphics drivers set up in your xorg.cong (nvidia, ati), you need to have them installed for all your kernels.04:29
Jucatohorizon: try this link: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/04:29
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Jucatohorizon: scratch that04:29
jeismawhat was that website for multimedia stuff jucato?04:29
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Jucatohorizon: wrong link04:29
douglashello, my wifes .kde has something in it that makes the space bar not work. How do I fix it without loosing all her personal settings?04:29
erik_so is there a easy way to install the packages from the dvd?, rather then manualy searching....04:29
oktoadmin_: i think because edit as root is a kde service menu that is not available in Ubuntu (nautilus)04:30
epThanks for the info. I'll keep at least two.04:30
admin_another thing is that every time i press any del buttons or any of those buttons includeing the arrow keys it trys taking a screen dumb, is there a way to turn that off?04:30
Jucato!flash > jeisma04:30
douglasanyone have any ideas why the space bar is not working? It works fine with a new .kde??04:32
horizoni think it is ok but is it live cd?04:32
Jucatohorizon: no not that link. I was wrong about that link04:32
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erik_is there any way that i can update the list of packages in adept?04:32
horizonokay can you suggest me another one?04:32
horizon6.06 or 6.1004:33
Jucatohorizon: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/04:33
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:33
Sanneep: if you want to boot from the other and you're not sure about the graphics drivers, set up yout xorg conf file to use a graphics driver that will likely work. Like nv if you have an nvidia card, or maybe vesa, should work most. Command to do that is: sudo dpkg-regonfigure xserver-xorg04:33
Jucatohorizon: I gave you a link for 6.10, which is still in development... that second one is for 6.06.1 (latest)04:33
jeismahow do i install xemacs or similar compiling software?04:33
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horizonok now checking04:34
Jucatojeisma: just search for it in Adept and install it. if it's available in the repositories, it will show up04:34
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jeismaso when i download something i want to install it will be in adept? or should be04:34
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Jucatojeisma: if it's available from our repositories, you'll be able to find it and install it easily using Adept04:35
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erik_oh great, adept wont start again :(04:35
Jucatoerik_: what happened?04:36
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erik_klicked, kde ==> programma's toevoegen en verwijderen (add and/or remove programs)04:36
erik_but works agian04:36
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admin_does anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop taking screen dumps?04:37
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erik_now it propted me fo the root password04:37
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horizonjucato it seems the link is working thanks04:37
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horizoni hope it doesnt interrupt04:38
erik_but i stil have the idea that adept shows all available packages :(04:38
Jucatohorizon: glad it worked. good luck!04:38
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horizonthank you indeed04:38
Jucatoerik_: I don't understand what you mean...04:38
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admin_root@admin-desktop:~# gksudo gedit xorg.conf04:39
admin_(gksudo:6680): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:04:39
erik_i open adept, select "any suite" on top of the screen, then click games, and there is no software listed04:39
Jucatoadmin_: don't login as root04:39
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Jucatoerik_: ah you are using Adept Installer. Adept (Adept Manager) is the more powerful version04:40
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Jucatoerik_: you might want to check the "unsupported" box to display stuff from universe04:40
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admin_does anyone now how to stop screen dumps being taken whenever i hit any of the arrow keys?04:40
Jucatomost games are in universe04:40
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erik_ah great :D will check04:40
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erik_so how long should a request install take?04:43
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Jucatoerik_: as long as you haven't clicked on Apply Changes... (I suggest click on Preview Changes first, to double check what will be installed)04:44
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jeismai downloaded xemacs from adept, how do irun it cause i don't see it in the kmenu04:44
Jucatojeisma: is xemacs a GUI app or one you run on the command line?04:45
Samuli^kmenu takes time to refresh from what I remember.04:45
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jeguigui i thought04:45
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jeismagui i thought04:45
jeismai mean, it is gui04:45
Samuli^you mean it HAS gui :)04:46
Jucatojeisma: if some GUI apps don't appear in the K Menu after installation, try typing this command in Konsole (ignore error messages): "kbuildsycoca --incremental" (without the quotes)04:46
jeismaobviously im not well-versed in this stuff.. ye ;)04:46
erik_right click, request install, click preview changes, but no firefox :(04:47
Jucatoerik_: what do you mean "no firefox"?04:48
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deuce868I'm trying to setup ssh-agent in kubuntu and I'm wondering where the best place to start up ssh-agent is?04:48
deuce868Should I setup something in a new .xsession file (none exists by default) or is there a better place to allow kde apps to use it?04:48
jeismastill can't run xemacs04:49
jeismaor i dont' see it at least04:49
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jeismaoh nevermind04:49
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jeismaim wrong i gess04:49
erik_i right clicked on firefox, and then request install04:49
jeismacause i ran it from the command line?04:49
jeismaJucato, thank you very much for helping me with everything.04:50
i4get2edgy is still edgy...lol04:50
Jucatoerik_: did you click Apply Changes?04:50
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erik_that button is still grey....04:51
erik_it might have something to do with the fact that i manualy tried to install it ffrom the dvd04:52
i4get2what button is grey ?04:52
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ErikTheRedthis might be a noobie question, but how do i make firefox my default web browser instead of konqueror04:52
Jucatoerik_: you have the DVD inserted right now?04:52
cox377_Jucato: i was admin_ a minute ago asking about editing the xorg.conf as root under ubuntu04:53
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JucatoErikTheRed: System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications04:53
coreymon77hey guys04:53
coreymon77i have a question04:53
Jucatocox377_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:54
erik_yep dvd's in now04:54
Jucatocox377_: but not in root terminal04:54
coreymon77in order to get my internet working04:54
ErikTheRedthanks Jucato04:54
Jucatoerik_: in Adept, go to Adept menu and select Manage Repositories04:54
coreymon77every time i load kubuntu i have to tpye in04:54
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coreymon77sudo iwconfig ra0 essid cohens key 1a1e28f24d04:54
coreymon77and then my root password04:55
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cox377_well i editied the same as i did under kubuntu to force a rez and when it restarted it comes up with errors under the ubuntu about the rez, everything i try within the terminal keeps telling me my login is incorrect04:55
NeoSakihey question, How do I get the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel build?04:55
coreymon77is there any ways to get that script to automatically run each time i boot kubuntu04:55
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erik_yes im there04:56
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coreymon77can anyone help me?04:56
erik_enable the deb lines?04:56
cox377_dont worry04:56
kutohi all, i installed ubuntu but it doesnt have apache webserver..is it possible to install one?04:57
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coreymon77can anyone help me out?04:58
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Sannecoreymon77: maybe this helps you? http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html04:59
erik_okay, enabled all the deb lines, then switched back to package list, then click 'get updates'04:59
erik_and w000t04:59
erik_thats like a lot :D04:59
Jucatoerik_: hm.. that would install stuff from the internet05:00
erik_and it works :)05:00
erik_thnx a million :D05:00
coreymon77sanne: not really05:00
Jucatoerik_: ah ok. I thought you wanted to install from the DVD05:00
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coreymon77that doesnt tell me how to have konsole scripts run automatically\05:00
erik_dont care realy, got 4mb/s internet right now05:00
jfroanybody know how to get vim to be doing syntax coloring in ubuntu/kubuntu? has gui,common,ruby,python but doesn't colorize them05:01
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coreymon77okay im gonna try something05:03
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kutohi all, i installed kubuntu but it doesnt have apache webserver..is it possible to install one?05:03
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jfroyeah, you can install it with Adept or apt-get05:04
Sannecoreymon77: look at 'man init'05:04
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cox377_is there a restore command for ubuntu, once it tells me the rezolution is wrong and i go to terminal before ubuntu i run the gksudo gedit xorg.conf and it tells it it cant open displays05:04
coreymon77i did it!05:04
frojndI installed rtorrent but it didn't appear in Kmentu -> Internet05:05
frojndeven if I type: kbuildsycoca --incremental05:05
frojndor should I install more packages for rtorrent05:05
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kutojfro: http://pastebin.ca/17626605:07
kutowhat am i missing?05:07
cox377_is there a safe mode for ubuntu05:07
uboturtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB05:07
fildogrub offers a recovery mode05:07
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Samuli^cox377_, you can choose that from grub or from the login screen.05:07
erik_can someone can recommend me a cool 2d platform game?05:07
fildortorrent ? like ktorrent azereus ?05:08
zerofool2005|aThere any wma players on linux?05:09
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kutocan anyone help me with apt-get? im new to kubuntu => http://pastebin.ca/17626605:09
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Sannecoreymon77: sorry, I was afk, did you solve it?05:09
kutoi want to install apache on this pc05:09
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fildokuto: man apt-get05:09
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ubotuoffically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)05:10
Sannecoreymon77: how? ;)05:10
coreymon77i remembered a tip that someone else told me a little while ago05:11
coreymon77i put a shell cript of the command in my autostart folder05:11
coreymon77it never worked before05:11
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coreymon77but i realized that i should just put my root passwrod on the next line05:12
coreymon77since the command was sudo05:12
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ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net05:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:12
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pseudolink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
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red_how do i edit the grub menu05:13
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zorglu_red_: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"05:13
Sannecoreymon77: the 'official' way to do it system wide is to use the init system. You put a script in /etc/init.d and link to it in the runlevel specific place /etc/rc<n>.d, <n> being the runlevel. Details in 'man init'05:14
Sannecoreymon77: in case you're still interested :)05:14
cannonballzorglu_: really, you guys recommend kate over vi (or gvim) or nano or emacs?  I'm not criticizing, just curious why.05:14
red_that doesnt work05:14
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kutofildo: http://pastebin.ca/17627405:15
Sannecannonball: matter of preference and stuff for religious wars ;)05:15
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kutoit doesnt want to install apache2?05:15
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zorglu_cannonball: well vi is *very* hard to use. emacs and nano are simpler but still require to know 'custom keys'. kate is much easier as it use a gui and the 'usual keys'05:16
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Talhello again guys and girls.05:16
nonicknamei have an hd with about 5.5 million bad sectors, according to qtparted.. is this bad?05:16
zorglu_cannonball: here usual/custom are as in compared with window05:16
Talanother question for all you braniacs05:16
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TalI have Kubuntu on one HD, and Windoze Xp on another. Is there a simple way to dual boot the machine?05:16
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Tali have read up and i need something to do with Grub and Mbr05:17
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:17
nonicknamewrong one05:17
Talbut its a little confusing.05:17
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:17
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Talare you both saying the same thing?05:17
kutocan anyone help me with this? =>  http://pastebin.ca/17627405:17
coreymon77im the only one who uses this computer05:17
nonicknamehe's automatedf05:18
Sannecoreymon77: yes?05:18
Taloh, bot.05:18
coreymon77so i dont need it systemwide05:18
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:18
Sannecoreymon77: ah05:18
nonicknamesearch google for dual boot grub or something05:18
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Sannecoreymon77: I just don't know how to do it any other way ;) I thought you might want to know about it.05:18
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lwellsAnyone ever try to run Synergy?05:19
nonicknamethis hd has 300 million sectors and 5 million are bad o.o05:19
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host-onehito all :)05:19
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.05:20
host-onehi to all :)05:20
fildohi host-one05:20
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:20
Talnonickname, due to the fact that im a n00b05:20
Tali dont understand half of what is written05:20
Talgot a sweet link for me? which is aimed at complete n00bs05:20
Talim using the console to a certain extent :) which is nice.05:21
nonicknamelemme find something, basically you need to reinstall grub, then edit the grub config file to optionally load windows05:21
Talonly been on linux about a month05:21
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Talon what HD?05:21
kutoapt-get repositories doesnt work by default?05:21
Talwindoze or kubuntu?05:21
host-oneDo you know a lite java editor for linux? i use eclipse but is too slowly05:21
fildothe prim05:21
fildoprimary hd05:21
vhogemannhost-one, jedit?05:21
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Talfildo @ me?05:21
fildoi would assume so05:22
Taland which one is the primary HD05:22
Talthey are noth set to master at the moment.05:22
fildohow are they setup05:22
nonicknamethe primary master05:22
kutoapt-get repositories doesnt work by default?05:22
Talcompletely separately05:22
host-onevhogemann: another?05:22
Samuli^kuto, cat /etc/apt/apt.conf05:22
Talas in i unplugged the winxp one05:22
Talthen set up linux on a separate HD05:22
Talwhen i want to switch, at the moment i unplug the IDE cables of one and plug the other in.05:23
Talwhich is a PITA05:23
Tali use linux for 95% of things05:23
nonicknameso, make the windows one the primary slave, and have the linux one with grub on it optionally load windows?05:23
kutoSamuli^: Acquire::http::Proxy "false"; <= should i enable it??05:23
Taleven the online game i play is linux compatible05:23
Talbut sonic stage software dont work05:24
Talprimary slave?05:24
Samuli^kuto, make a backup and make the file empty05:24
Talis that a jumper setting?05:24
Taland what you just said is exactly what i want.05:24
nonicknameyes, it can also depend on the cables05:24
Tallinux as the primary, but when i need XP05:24
Talthe option to load it05:24
nonicknameis your primary partition on hda?05:25
Talis there a quick way to check that.05:25
nonicknamethe linux one05:25
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Talthis HD (linux) only has linux on it05:25
nonicknamei'm not sure myself05:25
Talif that helps05:25
Talit was formatted and clean instal05:25
Talassume yes nonick05:26
zorglu_Tal: qparted will tell you which partition is primary of secondary05:26
zorglu_or you could guess by the device name :)05:26
Talone sec05:26
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Talok got it05:26
kutoSamuli^: done, but nothing happens when i tried updating => E: Couldn't find package apache205:26
zorglu_so it is a primary05:26
Tali checked storage media05:26
Taland went to properties05:27
zorglu_nice :)05:27
Talthe other one says hdb105:27
Samuli^kuto, sudo apt-get update05:27
Talso, whats the easiest way to get this done.05:27
Samuli^kuto, what does it put out?05:27
nonicknameim pretty sure all you will have to do is edit the grub configuration05:27
Taland how do i do that05:27
fildoin bash05:28
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kutoSamuli^: http://pastebin.ca/17629205:28
fildosudo vi /etc/grub.conf05:28
nonicknamei did it from livecd :P05:28
Talyou mean konsole?05:28
fildosame stuff05:28
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Talas did i :P05:28
zorglu_fildo: and dont forget to say he has to learn vi first :)05:28
Samuli^kuto, you need to apt-get update first.05:28
nonicknamenano = easier05:28
Taltrying sudo vi /etc/grub.conf05:28
fildoinsert .05:28
fildoctrl w05:29
zorglu_Tal: do you know the text editor vi ?05:29
fildoisnt it ? to save n exit ?05:29
NeoSakiwhats the command to edit the xorgconfig in kubuntu05:29
Samuli^kuto, it'll download the package lists for apt.05:29
TalKate is the text editor?05:29
fildoi cbf using it .. joe is the primo editor05:29
Talnot sure what vi means05:29
Talor you mean 4?05:29
nonicknamesearch that page for windows, should have the config05:29
fildovi is a text editor05:29
NeoSakior if someone knows how to get to fglrxconfig in kubuntu, it would be nice05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code05:30
zorglu_Tal: you may try "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"05:30
fildothtas the one!05:30
kutoSamuli^: http://pastebin.ca/17630605:30
Taldo i need "05:30
fildo/echo $time05:30
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zorglu_Tal: "vi" is the name of a text editor which is quite old and known to be hard to learn :) but some people still like it05:30
Tali have Kate05:30
zorglu_other dont :)05:30
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nonicknamewhat is vi good for?05:31
Talok so type this in konsole?05:31
Talkdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst05:31
nonicknameas opposed to easier text editors05:31
fildoediting conf files, in bash05:31
fildomaking scripts05:31
Samuli^kuto, odd it doesn't put out more than that, but try if you can install apache now.05:31
nonicknamedoes it have syntax highlighting?05:31
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zorglu_nonickname: you mean does it have any significant advantages ? i dont think so05:31
Talok menu is up in kate.05:31
nonicknamezorglu_: ah05:31
Samuli^kuto, other than that you could check out what your /etc/apt/sources.list says.05:31
Talnow where am i heading?05:31
zorglu_nonickname: but is it much harder to use ? i do think so :)05:31
nonicknamelol, as do i05:32
nonicknamei've gotta go download sp2 and a firewall for windows, lol05:32
Talthis is all gibberish to me :P05:32
nonicknamethat's the only reason i'm in linux at the moment, to be honest05:32
Tali have the menu.lst open.05:32
fildouse standard one05:32
kutoSamuli^: http://pastebin.ca/17631005:32
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fildon route with a nix firewall05:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:33
kutoi did not install the server version...do i have to?05:33
nonicknamewow lol05:33
SanneTal: if you haven't already, I recommend making a backup of menu.list05:33
nonicknamemicrosoft.com gave konqueror a sigsev05:33
Samuli^kuto, probably you're sources.list isn't good then.05:33
Talsave as (another name?)05:33
zorglu_ok have fun guys05:33
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SanneTal: why not, but remember to open the real one again.05:33
kutoSamuli^: can you give me the source links?05:33
fildoi need a smoke. brb05:33
Talok. good point.05:33
nonicknamelol fildo05:34
MitchMtalk like a pirate day05:34
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admin_if i've install ubuntu, is it possible to install kde over the top of it to make it kubuntu?05:34
MitchMye be a scurvey dog!05:34
Sanneadmin_: yes, I think for the whole kubuntu experience it's the package kubuntu-desktop05:34
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fildoadmin_: yes05:34
Samuli^kuto, mine looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/17631505:35
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nonickname /nick mynickname05:35
cannonballMitchM: http://pics.mrball.net/main.php?g2_itemId=303   :-D05:35
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admin_Sanne: cheers, i shall instal that now..05:35
kutoSamuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176316 <= my source.list..nothing is enabled by default??05:35
fildoits a gig install05:35
Sanneadmin_: you're welcome05:35
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fildoor 500meg05:35
nonicknameadmin_: you're gonna have the ubuntu stuff still, if i have been hearing complaints correctly05:35
Talok Samuli^ i am in the new one.05:36
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Talerr old one.05:36
admin_fildo: lol...05:36
Samuli^kuto, like it says there.. line commented out by installer because it couldn't verify.05:36
admin_nonickname: Hmmm is it not recommended thne?05:36
Talany idea what i need to change to enable XP to boot if i choose?05:36
fildoyeh it is05:36
harryhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats05:36
Samuli^kuto, you didn't configure your network before install, did you? :)05:36
fildoive done in .05:36
nonicknameadmin_: just the ubuntu stuff will still take up space05:36
Samuli^kuto, just un-comment the lines.05:36
admin_nonickname: i get yah05:36
fildokubuntu ?  it just kdm05:36
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harryim using kubuntu 5.1005:37
admin_nonickname: it's only a 9gb drive so i'm wondering now...05:37
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Samuli^Tal, what? old, new?05:37
NeoSakipray that i dont die05:37
kutoSamuli^: i did, except for repositories..05:37
Talignore that bit, i am in menu.lst05:37
Talwhat do i need to change?05:37
Tal(i backed up)05:38
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Samuli^tal, did I talk to you last night?05:38
Tallol no i thought you were reading earlier.05:38
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fildoTal: get into habbit of backing up files u edit05:38
Tali assume you wernt :P05:38
fildootherwise end up in serious mischief05:38
Talindeed :P05:38
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Talfildo  knows the problem i have05:38
Talany idea what i need to add in there dude05:38
fildo2 x hdd05:39
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Talwhere abouts05:39
fildoneeds to add grub to dual boot05:39
lwellsdoes linux come with XTest?05:39
Flarpis anyone running kubuntu live cd from an iso image with vmplayer?05:39
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xtest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
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Samuli^tal, you'd probably need something like title microsoft, bla bla.. root (your partition) makedefault saveactive chainloader +1 :)05:40
harryhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats05:40
Samuli^tal, is windows on the first HD?05:40
fildo!seen flaccid05:40
harryim using kubuntu 5.1005:40
ubotuI last saw flaccid (n=flaccid@CPE-124-177-23-165.vic.bigpond.net.au) 3h 20m 34s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)05:40
Talits on hdb105:40
Talkubuntu is hda105:40
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Samuli^tal, ok, so you need mapping as well then..05:40
coreymon77!seen tal05:40
ubotuTal is on IRC right now!05:40
coreymon77just joking05:40
SanneSamuli^, Tal: there's an example for a windows boot entry under "examples", in case you didn't notice.05:41
Tal*coughs* ok mapping. that sounds super hard!05:41
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Taloo really?05:41
Talah i see it05:42
Talobviously i remove the # # #05:42
Talbut does it matter where it is?05:42
octanaye September 19th is International Talk Like A Pirate Day http://www.talklikeapirate.com/05:42
SanneTal: I don't really know what you need to put in, but I thought I point it out, another person please help with the details :)05:42
octanharr harr harr05:42
Talcan i add it to the bottom of the list.05:42
Samuli^Tal, you could try this: http://pastebin.ca/17632905:42
Samuli^yeah, just add it to the bottom of the file.05:42
Talok ill paste what you wrote.05:43
Talwhen i save it i restart and see what happens correcto?05:43
fildopirates are old school n over rated. please dont spam05:43
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TalNinja > Pirates05:43
Talnuff said.05:43
admin_I'm glad linux servers are always fast05:43
fildocause they dont chew resources like a M$ shit machine05:44
Samuli^tal, yes. You could and different ones with a little different options and see which one works. Or just use the grub edit while in the grub if it doesn't load to modify things.05:44
Talok well i added it..05:44
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Talill restart now and see if it blows up.05:44
SanneTal: you may also increase the timeout05:44
SanneTal: so you have more time choosing05:44
admin_fildo: sorry, i mean the bandwidth when getting stuff off the net, like downloading the kubuntu-desktop.. always full speed05:44
SanneTal: moment05:44
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SanneTal: there's a timeout setting at the beginning of the file, I found it too short.05:45
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fildoadmin_: 408mb.. i knew it was around that,05:45
SanneTal: search for "timeout", you should find it.05:45
Talah yes05:45
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Tal3 seconds05:45
admin_fildo: just hope it doesnt take up too much room05:45
SanneTal: see? :)05:45
Tal20secs more like it05:45
SanneTal: exactly what I have hehe05:45
fildoshouldnt ..05:45
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Talok let me restart05:46
SanneTal: good luck05:46
Talif you hear a bang05:46
Talthat will be me05:46
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octanyou noobi05:46
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Sanneadmin_: another option would have been to get the alternate kubuntu cd which can serve as a repository05:47
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Sannehi supernova_05:54
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Buffy^^well ssh is lovely05:54
Buffy^^and I have hlds up and running like a charm :D05:55
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supernova_my Ktorrent is closing automatically after some time. what can be the problem?05:56
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fildonice work05:56
fildomine always stall :p05:57
fildoso i drifted to use azereus . or opera05:57
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supernova_Does the torrent automatically start in opera?05:57
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fildoyep . u save it05:58
fildon it moves to tranfer tab05:58
supernova_ok i'll try opera. But is it possible to fix ktorrent?05:58
fildoyerp. reinstall05:59
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supernova_thnx fildo...letme shift to opera for now.05:59
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lsprocI have my OE email boxes, they are index.dbx, googlemail.dbx etc. I want to import these into KMail. Shall I copy the entire mail store?06:06
kutohow do you start apache2 services..06:07
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usuario_service httpd start06:07
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fildokuto: /etc/init.d/apache restart06:08
larson9999what's in these patches?  i've never used the ff ubuntu packages and want to know what i'm missing:  here in ubuntu, we have slightly custom builds of firefox, with our own special patches, so unfortunanty using the normal firefox updater would install the "offical" build without all of our patches.06:08
fildokuto: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart06:08
kutofildo: i installed it using apt-get but i cant see the script in my /etc/init.d06:09
kristinai have problems with cvscedega. when i type in cvscedega he says that he dont know06:09
Sannekuto: there's also a nice graphical frontend for starting things like apache: System Settings -> System Administration -> System Services06:09
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kutoConf libdbi-perl (1.50-1 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) <= does this thing means "Conflicting"?06:12
creedencehi guys06:13
fildohi creedence06:13
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fildothat or newer ver06:13
creedenceit's lunch time... I am at work06:13
creedenceI hate mIRC06:13
fildonice, why u use it for then06:14
fildoBitchX. .. non cli06:14
fildois the shiznit06:14
creedencewindows version?06:14
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creedenceNo K here ...06:14
fildodont insult me06:14
creedenceI am hurtin'06:14
JucatoXChat runs on Windows06:14
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Buffy^nnscript works better for windows06:15
Jucatoit's also runs on Linux06:15
xstHow do I configure konqueror to simply delete files when I select "delete" instead of moving them to trash?06:15
fildosure ? ;p06:15
Buffy^delete the trash can06:15
Jucatoxst: just press shift+delete06:15
creedencexst - use shift then click delete06:15
Sannexst: configure the keyboard shortcuts06:15
Jucatowow, so many answers lol06:15
Buffy^I cant belive I manage to get hlds up and running was a pint in the ass06:16
MetaMorfoziSk3b said the coding of some file names are invalid, and k3b unable to write it to dvd. So what proggram cvan rename all file in subdirs and subdirssubdirs...06:16
kutofildo: can you check this please, why apache2 did not installed? => http://pastebin.ca/17636106:16
Sannexst: settings/configure shortcuts, then you could switch the hotkeys for delete and move to trash, if you want (I did)06:16
fildogimme a sec mate. just fixing own box06:16
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Sannekristina: the jack error shouldn't matter. It's for sound output, I have the same error in my wine. I just set the sound output to alsa. But I don't have cedega, so I don't know if that really applies.06:18
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kutoseems like konversation chat doesnt have another tab feature?06:20
dmdWhy is it that configure doesn't find my version.h when I have installed all the kernel source/headers packages for my kernel version?06:21
MetaMorfoziSkuto: ! you have old konversation06:21
lwellsHow can I find out if my computer is connected to another on the network??06:21
MetaMorfoziShttp://konversation.kde.org upgrade it, and try tree view06:21
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MetaMorfoziSi think it is the best view06:21
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^rob^i'm having problems wiht nvidia on kubuntu dapper06:22
kutoMetaMorfoziS: can i upgrade konversation using apt-get?06:22
MetaMorfoziSkuto just read that page.06:22
dmdI need to re-compile alsa but I can't because it says 'The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist'06:22
dmdbut it does06:22
MetaMorfoziS(you able to compile from source, or add a repo to your sources.list and apt-get upgrade)06:22
^rob^x say that can;t find nvidia06:22
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Jucatokuto: the new konversation (v 1.0) should have been in dapper-backports a few weeks ago, but due to some technical difficulties, it's still not there06:23
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:24
dmdIs there a 'Ubuntu guide to re-compiling kernel dependant code' anywhere?06:25
dmdi.e re-compiling ALSA, NVIDIA driver etc.06:25
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kutook i found it, i'll upgrade later after i download apache06:25
kutotnx guys06:25
^rob^nvidia help?06:26
dmdrob: nope, my gfx is ok06:26
dmdI need to patch alsa06:26
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dmdbut I can't because I there doesn't seem to be a version.h with the ubuntu kernel source archive06:27
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dmdpackage, even06:28
dmdI think I've installed all the kernel source/ headers packages I needed06:28
Sannedmd: you would at least need the headers for your kernel, shoulde be something like: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:28
^rob^mp3 ?06:29
Sannedmd: oh06:29
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^rob^what do i need to make amarok play mp3?06:29
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:30
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Talit worked.06:30
lcohengood morning all, quick question about wine...the program installs and runs ok if I do a sudo wine program.exe but how can I create a shortcut so I can run it under my user from kde?06:30
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TalWinXP doesnt like the other hardrive though06:30
Taleverytime i log in i have to go to device manager and uninstal it ;P06:31
Talstill, it works so meh.06:31
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usuarioJJlcohen:You have to put the link like this:06:31
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zerofool2005whats the deafult root pass for kubuntu?06:32
ketsugisame as your user pass06:32
Talthe one for you user pass06:32
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lcohenusuariojj:  I didn't see the link06:32
fildohey how can i stop apt-get looking for setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar all the time06:32
usuarioJJkubuntu does not have default ROOT pass! It is blank!06:32
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usuarioJJ"/usr/bin/wine /path///yourapp.exe"06:33
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zerofool2005"Login Failed"06:33
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lcohenwith three "///"?06:34
Dr_Willisdirect logging in as root is disabled.06:34
Dr_Willisuse 'sudo' and your first created users password06:34
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SanneTal: hey, good to hear it worked06:34
Tali keep getting a found new hardware loop though06:35
Talits really really annoying06:35
Talits trying to install the other Hardrive (in this case the linux HD)06:35
usuarioJJnooo i put that in case you have subdir on your path, like this:"/subdir1/subdir2/subdir3/yourapp.exe"06:35
Talit says cant instal but then continues to keep trying06:35
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SanneTal: heh, just like windows ;)06:36
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lcohenthanks usu, the only issue is I can only seem to get it working if I run it as root06:36
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dmdBefore I install a new alsa driver, do I need to rid of the old one somehow?06:36
Talstupid POS06:36
Talif companies could get their act together and realease the code for direct X etc06:36
Talwin would be reduntant for me06:37
usuarioJJwell... The, you have to use sudo managers, like su, kdesu, and gksu before invoking Wine06:37
SanneTal: what drives are this? ide, sata, scsi?06:37
Taloo i got a nice easy question as well.06:37
SanneTal: funny windows can't install it. But maybe it shouldn't anyway, since it's for your linux?06:37
Talwhen i click a link in IRC06:37
lcoheni figred as much, i just coouldn't figure out how to do it with a desktop link06:37
Talit opens with Konqueror which is a POS06:38
Talhow do i get it to open in default firefox06:38
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SanneTal: maybe youcan configure it in your irc client? I use xchat, it has such an option.06:38
Talim using Konversation06:38
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TheGateKeeperTal: System Settings --> KDE applications06:39
SanneTal: sorry, can't help with that one then.06:39
TheGateKeeperTal look in there & set your default browser06:39
usuarioJJtry first with run... box to see if it works, Or, you can try it in a terminal. As i said, the call first invokes the su, and when you insert the right pass, it continues.06:39
Talsystem settings?06:39
Tali have system and utilities.06:39
SanneTheGateKeeper: ah, nice one :)06:40
usuarioJJTal: System06:40
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Talwhats the program. havent got kde application06:40
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supernix /uptime06:40
supernixUptime: 20 days, 10 hours and 12 minutes06:40
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SanneTal: Menu, System Settings, Kde Components, Default Applications06:40
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zorglu_Tal: kde components06:40
zorglu_as Sanne said :)06:40
Talah sorry being dumb06:41
Talone moment06:41
TheGateKeeperSanne: explained better than me :-)06:41
SanneTheGateKeeper: ah, naah, didn't even knew that one before you mentioned it :)06:41
Talsweet guys06:42
Talthat was really bugging me06:42
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Talits silly stuff like that that bothers you huh06:42
TheGateKeeperthat's why I found it, it was driving me nuts :-)06:42
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SanneTal: in Kde there are so many settings and options, and hidden settings and options, I'm finding new ones almost every day :)06:43
Talits the only one i ever used.06:43
Talnot tryed gnome.06:43
Talanyone had problems with flash player here?06:43
lcohenI think I figured it out, stupod /home/user/.wine permissions :)06:43
Tali installed the normal one flash-nonfree or something like that.06:43
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Taland most things worked.06:43
ant_kneehello ppl, I have a few issues with Kde-Wallet? the app that won't die06:43
SanneTal: Gnome is supposed to be simpler, but on the other hand you can't configure so much (I think). So to each his/her own, nice to have choice :)06:43
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usuarioJJYou're welcome! Tell me which version of Wine Are You running?06:44
Talbut there were some things that just wouldnt work. So instead of the nonfree one i tried the ACTUAL adobe one.06:44
TheGateKeeperTal: if the site is using flash 8 or 9 it won't work, we still have to wait for that06:44
TalAh that will be why06:44
Talyou know there IS a workaround :)06:44
Talperhaps i can help you.06:44
Talit works to a certain extent anyways.06:44
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TheGateKeeperTal: which is?06:45
Taltry this06:45
Talkate ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat06:45
Talthen change06:45
TalShockwave Flash 7.0 r68:$06:45
TalShockwave Flash 9.0 r68:$06:45
Talit works to a certain extent, but i found it a little buggy.06:45
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ant_kneeuseful flash tip, thanks06:46
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Talif you try it before you change it you will see what i mean.06:46
Taltry this link06:46
TheGateKeeperTal: cool, the other way I have herd is to install a browser into wine then install flash etc06:46
Talthat wont work at all06:47
Talbut change it to 9 it does,06:47
Tali have some problems with the buttons and missing animations so *shrugs*06:47
SanneTal: well, youstill have a version 7 flash player, so ...06:47
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Talheh yeah06:48
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:48
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Talbut it is a little work around so it helps a bit06:48
SanneTal: but interesting tip anyways, so thanks :)06:48
zerofool2005Setting custom ip to
zerofool2005custom_ip_resolved =
^rob^i can't find libxine-extracodecs - where is it? i have universe and multiverse enabled06:48
SanneTal: some people even run a win32 firefox in wine with the latest flash player. I'm not that desperate, though ;)06:49
Tali havent even tried wine06:49
Talas i said. the online game i play works in linux06:49
Talso its sweet06:49
Talbut the new one wont.. :(06:49
Sanne^rob^: try to look at packages.ubuntu.com, it tells you the exact package name and the repository you need enebled.06:49
Sannesomeday I will even learn to type...06:50
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ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:50
TheGateKeeper^rob^: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28xine-ui.2906:52
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TheGateKeeperTal: thanx for the flash tip, I have made a note :-)06:53
Tal*smiles* np. you guys have helped me out loads over the past month06:53
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Talnice to actually have at least a semi useful tip06:53
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beermunkhey all06:54
beermunkhow are we today?06:54
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Talhappy now, yourself?06:54
Sannebeermunk: well, nice weather, fresh air, and holiday... so we are quite fine, today ;)06:55
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Talok with that im off. thanks again for all the help!06:56
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Sannebye Tal06:56
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gpettitI have a question regarding mkinitramfs.  Anyone up for it?06:58
ant_kneehi there, can someone give me some advice about howto get rid of kde-wallet or disable it - I have apt-get removed it but it will not stop popping up06:58
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Dr_Willisant_knee,  it has settings you can set.06:58
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Dr_Willisto disable what you dont like about it.06:58
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ant_kneewhere to config?06:59
Dr_Willistry its menus on the systemtray icon06:59
gof_ciao a tutti06:59
Dr_Willisor run kwallet06:59
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Sanneant_knee: menu, Security & Privacy06:59
Dr_Willis kwalletmanager06:59
gof_ciao a tutti06:59
gof_ou ce qualcuno?!!!????07:00
ant_kneei ve only a blank page in Security & privacy07:00
Dr_Willisright click --> configure kwallet. :P logical place to put the menu item.07:00
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gof_what the fuck07:00
gof_is there anyone07:00
ant_kneekanthony@mute002:~$ kwallet07:00
ant_kneebash: kwallet: command not found07:00
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Dr_Willisgof_,  Huh?07:00
Dr_Willis kwalletmanager07:00
Dr_Williskwallet<tab> :P07:01
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ubuntuHey! Im running ubuntu and using grub and i installed windows on another partition and now i have to make grub the booatloader again. I can also add that i have chrooted into my kubuntu partition and i can use grub but how07:02
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Dr_Willisshould work.07:03
zerofool2005kopete owns :D07:04
arcasaKopete isn't working for me!07:04
ubuntuill try that07:04
arcasaIt won't stop connecting.07:04
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zerofool2005spell check on msn :D07:06
zerofool2005what most people need to use07:06
zerofool2005MMM food07:06
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NthDegreeanyone know if there's a memory leak problem in KDE specific to edgy?07:07
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NthDegreeI was left with 10MB ram free out fo my 1GB last night :|07:08
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NthDegreeout of*07:08
|lostbyte|hi !07:08
binaryflowUpgraded from 386 to 686 kernel yesterday for dual core - now my wireless card won't work07:08
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binaryflowGoing back to 386 kernel still won't work.07:08
SanneNthDegree: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1, as those people are running edgy07:08
binaryflowany ideas?07:08
|lostbyte|anyway to netinstall with out a floopy drive ?07:08
Dodgerinteresting problem here... i'm behind a non-transparent squid proxy, and adept is unable to download anything when i run it via kdesu - works fine if i run it from the terminal via sudo though. any ideas?07:09
NthDegreegood point Sanne, although I kinda wish they had a #kubuntu+1 too :p07:09
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NthDegreeDodger, KDE proxy settings perhaps :|07:09
SanneNthDegree: yeah, I just looked if there's such a channel heh :)07:10
NthDegreemaybe you've set up the bits for the terminal and non-KDE bits07:10
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DodgerNthDegree:  i've tried setting them manually and even via an automatic configuration script - doesn't seem to have any effect07:10
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zorglu_!info amarok07:10
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB07:10
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dhqi used kontact mail client  and got all my mails  in my pc but it cleared all my mail on the internet now all the mail is in my pc only nothing on the internet how do i get it back07:11
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NthDegreedhq, it's meat to do that07:12
NthDegreeif you didn't want that then you should have selected "keep messages on server"07:13
dhqNthDegree: how do it get all the mails back on the net07:13
NthDegreeyou can't07:13
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amarokkerHi, i am being asked to install libvisual4.0- but its not installable according to synaptic07:13
NthDegreeyou should have used IMAP instead of POP3 if you wanted them to stay on the net and NEVER touch the PC itself07:14
binaryflowHas anyone seen a wireless card stop working after a kernel upgrade?07:14
amarokkerhow do i get around this prob?07:14
binaryflowInternal Intel card on a Dell Latitude D620 laptop07:14
Sanneamarokker: what's the error message? please paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:14
dhqNthDegree: my mail is on a linux server so there must be a way to upload all back07:14
binaryflowWorked great until moving to 686 kernel07:14
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NthDegreeamarokker, try this: sudo apt-get install -f07:14
NthDegreeusually solves those kinds of things07:14
amarokkerok. am trying. wait a bit- if it doesnt work, i'll paste the error back on.07:14
dhqbinaryflow: i am on a dell latitude d505 i upgraded my kernel and my wifi is proper07:15
lordhelmetso here's a fun quirk: when i boot, both my cpu's are using the ondemand governor, but upon logging into to kde it switches cpu0 to the performance governor07:15
NthDegreelmao dhq, you used POP3, you set it up to delete the mail off the server when it gets to your PC07:15
binaryflowso why would mine stop working?07:15
binaryflowGoing back to the old kernel still won't work.07:15
NthDegreejust select to keep email on the server and wait for the next batch of email07:15
NthDegreethat's all you can do lol07:15
lordhelmetcan anybody think of why this would happen?07:16
dhqNthDegree: but all the mails are on my pc07:16
Sanneamarokker: 0.4 seems to be in edgy and dapper-backports. In dapper there's version 0.207:16
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues07:16
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NthDegreedhq, I know that07:17
amarokker  amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable07:17
NthDegreedhq, You downloaded the mail to your PC, then erased it from the server07:17
Sanneamarokker: 0.4 seems to be in edgy and dapper-backports. In dapper there's version 0.207:17
ant_kneesorry - distracted there - thanks I disabled kdwallet but I can't seem get smb4k top save default password which is what I really want to do07:17
NthDegreethat is how standard POP3 works07:17
amarokkeryeah, Sanne- so is there a repo that'd work with dapper/?07:17
Sanneamarokker: firstly, what are you trying to install?07:17
dhqNthDegree: i am screwed :(07:17
NthDegreewhy dhq?07:18
Sanneamarokker: I suspect a version not in the official dapper repos?07:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:18
dhqi need all the mails on myserver but now all in my pc07:18
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amarokkerand thats the msg i get when i try it- using apt-get -f install doesnt work- according to --fix-missing there's nothing wrong. yeah...got the source list from source-o-matic-07:18
dhqNthDegree: i need all the mails on myserver but now all in my pc07:18
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NthDegreedhq, just choose to keep mail on the server so you know for next time07:18
amarokkerlemme remove the line for the cipherfunk repos and cehck back07:18
NthDegreethen they'll stay on the server07:18
NthDegreedhq, you should have read up on e-mail clients if you didn't know what they did :|07:19
dhqNthDegree: where is that option i dont see it07:19
Sanneamarokker: then it can be that there are dependencies not covered with the official repos. I'd like to show you how you can find out if there's a version you can install from a repos. Ok?07:19
NthDegree1 second07:19
amarokkerSanne: yeah. sure. thanks.07:19
ant_kneeany body fancy helping with this kde-wallet/smb4k issue07:20
lordhelmetanybody? kde login sets cpu0 governor to performance? it will be fun!07:20
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NthDegreedhq, the option is called "Leave fetched messages on server"07:20
Sanneamarokker: go to packages.ubuntu.com, type libvisual in the search box, set distribution dropdown to "any", and search.07:20
NthDegreedhq, "Leave fetched messages on server" is on your receiving e-mail settings07:21
Sanneamarokker: tell me when ready07:21
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|lostbyte|NthDegree, so they will be marked as unread even after download ?07:21
amarokkersanne- got the results page you were right- it is in dapper backports07:22
dhqNthDegree: i dont see it07:22
|lostbyte|dhq, look throught the server options of that client.07:22
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Sanneamarokker: exactly. So, now you need to enable dapper-backports. I can paste the line I have in my sources.list, if you want.07:22
amarokkerYeah, please. That'd be helpful.07:23
instructorAhh I love pretty fonts07:23
instructorAnyone else have a kopete update?07:23
NthDegree|lostbyte| no it copies the email when you do that07:23
Sanneamarokker: there you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2401207:23
NthDegree|lostbyte| so you have 1 copy on server and 1 on the PC07:23
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amarokkerThanks a lot sane- will let you know if it works :D07:24
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:24
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|lostbyte|NthDegree, intresting..07:24
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dhq|lostbyte|: cant see it07:24
ronnylinuxhi guys how can i install a webcam07:24
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Sanneamarokker: I would keep not what you installed from backports... in case you get problems when upgrading to edgy some day, so you could uninstall them if needed.07:25
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:25
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dhqNthDegree: cant see it07:27
|lostbyte|"leave fetched messages on server"07:27
dhq|lostbyte|: where is it07:27
|lostbyte|under receiving tab.07:27
dhq|lostbyte|: there is no receving tab in kontact i guess07:28
|lostbyte|huh ? kontact :S07:28
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|lostbyte|dhq, --------------> kmail07:29
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dhq|lostbyte|: same .........07:30
ubuntuHey! I have ubuntu and grub installed but when i reinstalled windows it overrided grub. I have now botted with a live cd and i have chrooted to my ubuntuinstall and i have tried update-grub but no luck when i reboot the grub window doesnt appear instead windows boots... any ideas07:30
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Sanneubuntu: this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:31
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Sanneubuntu: you're welcome07:32
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ronnylinuxdoes anybody can help me?, i want to install my webcam, it is deluxe, i don't know how to do it, because i have the driver but is for windows07:33
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dhq|lostbyte|: http://www.kontact.org07:34
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|lostbyte|It says clearly there, --> The mail component is provided by KMail,07:35
ronnylinuxdoes anybody can help me?, i want to install my webcam, it is deluxe, i don't know how to do it, because i have the driver but is for windows07:36
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sudhitell me anybody how to install firefox on kubuntu07:37
ubotukontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1547 kB, installed size 3300 kB07:37
ubotukmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 2079 kB, installed size 6572 kB07:37
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ronnylinuxubotu apt-get install firefox07:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-get install firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:37
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ronnylinuxubotu just type this  in the konsole apt-get install firefox07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about just type this  in the konsole apt-get install firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
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sudhihow to enable root account07:42
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trappistsudhi: basically you don't.  it can be done, but it's highly not-recommended.07:44
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[GuS] how to disable? :P07:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about howtoenablesuperrootuseraccountplease - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
main2shit.. typo07:51
sudhihow to run the command as root while normal login07:52
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kutohow do i view my webcam on kubuntu its in => /dev/video007:53
main2sudhi: sudo -u yourusername command07:53
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main2kuto: try videolan07:53
main2apt-get install vlc07:53
main2when you click open, you can select a v4l device (/dev/video0) or a pvr ..07:54
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kutocan i stop apt-get that is currently updating and resume it at a later time?07:55
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sudhii have downloaded firefox gz file.... how to install07:56
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[GuS] People... why installing nvidia-glx in Kubuntu, changes the fonts size...?07:57
[GuS] because i still having 9 as size07:57
[GuS] but the fonts became more small07:57
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[GuS] (this happen in Edgy)07:57
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PensacolaI'll be taking my linux pc to a lan party for the first time next month :)07:58
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kutolan party?07:58
klerfayt[GuS] : that is because nvidia drivers set dpi to something different it was before07:59
main2a local area network party, .. a place where geeks / retards meet up :P07:59
[GuS] and how to change that?07:59
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[GuS] because this in dapper does not happen07:59
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klerfayt[GuS] : you could use   Option "DPI" "96 x 96"08:00
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klerfayt[GuS] : you know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?08:00
[GuS] ok, thanks klerfayt taking note of that ;)08:00
[GuS] yes08:00
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[GuS] just have that doub08:01
[GuS] that happen before on breezy once08:01
[GuS] thanks :)08:01
kutomain2: and what do you do with that lan party?08:01
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main2kuto: you really wanne know ?08:02
[GuS] inside nvidia driver section right klerfayt ? or could be just standalone?08:02
klerfayt[GuS] : where you put that famous option "NoLogo"08:03
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[GuS] right08:03
[GuS] so there... ok08:03
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kutomain2: sure, why not..08:03
main2you really really really really really wanne know?08:03
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kutowhere can i edit eth0?08:06
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main2eth1 is actually a device node, you shouldnt edit it08:07
main2just use ifconfig08:07
main2ifconfig man << do this first08:08
kutoi can edit eth0 file in redhat, its not possible in kubuntu?08:08
|lostbyte|kuto, you can08:10
Samuli^does k3b support lightscribe?_08:10
|lostbyte|kmenu > system settings > network settings :)08:10
zerofool2005hmm  just install gimp with apt-get install gimp08:11
kutohow about in cli?08:11
zerofool2005but i cant find it08:11
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Pensacolalan party is fun :)08:12
Pensacolagaming and boozing for an entire weekend08:12
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SeventhOmenHas anyone moved from Suse to Kubuntu?08:14
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:15
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i4get2im familiar with suse08:21
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Makro___________i `m getting disconnected every time at random lapsus of time, it can be something wrong with my pppoeconf?08:25
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kutomain2: when you click open, you can select a v4l device (/dev/video0) or a pvr .. <= where can i find this?08:30
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kutomain2: ???08:36
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main2kuto: have you installed videolan?08:37
kutoSetting up vlc-plugin-alsa (0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) ...08:38
kutoSetting up vlc (0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) ...08:38
main2have you started vlc?08:38
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main2click on 'open'  or eject08:39
main2then you see a tab 'video 4 linux' and 'pvr'08:39
kutowhere can i see that link?08:40
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kutoi saw a VLC media player..is that the one?08:41
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kutoits blurred08:49
main2focus ur webcam08:49
main2turn the lens..08:49
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xfileSera a tutti08:54
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jpiccolowell i guess i was dumb08:56
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jpiccoloi am booted up with "nv" in my xorg, is there a way to run nvidia drivers and -2708:59
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|lostbyte|!find mini09:01
ubotuFound: aspell-gl-minimos, minicom, python-minimal, python2.4-minimal, wgalician-minimos (and 16 others)09:01
|lostbyte|!find iso09:02
ubotuFound: bison, bison-doc, iso-codes, libpisock++0c2, libpisock-dev (and 29 others)09:02
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|lostbyte|Is there a mini iso version on kubuntu ?09:02
jpiccoloa mini iso of what?09:02
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|lostbyte|jpiccolo, the installation live cd ?09:03
jpiccolothat is an iso, yes09:03
Sannebye all09:03
jpiccoloi dont know what you mean by mini though09:04
|lostbyte|jpiccolo, lolz, a less then minimal install cd09:04
|lostbyte|like a kubuntu version of DSL09:04
|lostbyte|Same small linux.09:05
jpiccolooh, no i dont think so09:05
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Riddell|lostbyte|: the live CD only just fits on 1 CD, we can't make it any smaller09:06
ninHerhi all09:06
Riddell|lostbyte|: but see netboot install on KubuntuFiles09:06
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ElectrolyteCan anyone tell me what gam_server is in the process list?09:06
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octanRiddell, Yes you could make it smaller :P make it fit on a usb stick09:06
ElectrolyteI'm having some trouble with it.09:06
|lostbyte|octan, yes thats what i am talking about.09:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gam_server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/09:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mythtv&xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
RiddellElectrolyte: it's for wathcing for changed files, we're getting rid of it in edgy09:07
ElectrolyteThe only time my system has locked up is because of it.09:08
jpiccolowhen is edgy due out09:08
Riddellsee EdgyReleaseSchedule09:08
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