[12:11] <pielgrzym> kalagaraz: I don't want grub, and what does this chroot do?
[12:11] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[12:11] <kalagaraz> huh?
[12:11] <kalagaraz> my chroot is for installing 32bit on 64bit
[12:13] <pielgrzym> kalagaraz: sorry :)
[12:13] <kalagaraz> sorry? huh? what? confused :(
[12:13] <cpk1> isnt gtk the gnome enviroment?
[12:13] <pielgrzym> kalagaraz: nevermind :)
[12:17] <Zaire> does anyone know how I might be able to upgrade Dapper to edgy using apt?
[12:19] <ditte> hi
[12:19] <ditte> does anybody know how to get the java-package?
[12:19] <Hawkwind> Zaire: You can replace all instances of dapper with edgy in your sources.list.  But I'd suggest waiting til Edgy becomes final and stable unless you really want a broken system
[12:19] <Hawkwind> !java
[12:19] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:20] <ditte> seriously, people, I have detailed instructions, but one of the packages I need has disappeared from the archives
[12:20] <ditte> including *verse
[12:20] <pielgrzym> how to make lilo boot another system (linux) which has a separate /boot partition? please help:( I hate lilo :(
[12:21] <sorush20> pielgrzym: I would recommend installing grub from a ubuntu install cd..
[12:21] <Hawkwind> ditte: What package ?
[12:21] <kalagaraz> (xvidcap:24172): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:21] <kalagaraz> Someone help me fix :(
[12:21] <Blissex> pielgrzym: just add a pointer to the other kernel to the '/etc/lilo.conf'. LILO does not care where the kernels it boots come from.
[12:21] <pielgrzym> sorush20: my current install is fully xfs (and grub suck with xfs)
[12:21] <Blissex> pielgrzym: probably you want to specify a different 'root=' for the other kernel.
[12:21] <pielgrzym> Blissex: I tried
[12:22] <ditte> Hawkind: java-package
[12:22] <sorush20> pielgrzym: hang a round and get some more help..
[12:22] <pielgrzym> Blissex: I'll give you my lilo.conf :)
[12:22] <Hawkwind> ditte: Have you read the URL ubotu just suggested ?
[12:22] <Blissex> pielgrzym: OK....
[12:22] <sorush20> Blissex: I'm prob being nosy by do you really need xfs?
[12:23] <ditte> Hawkind: yes, but I'm trying to get Java to work on konqueror, not Firefox
[12:23] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[12:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:23] <ditte> Hawkwind: I have it all figured out, only apt-get install java-package tells me the package is obsolete
[12:24] <Hawkwind> ditte: It doesn't tell me that here
[12:24] <sorush20> I seem to be missing hal
[12:24] <pielgrzym> Blissex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23923 - the config I try to run is at the very bottom
[12:24] <ditte> Hawkind: you can actually download it??
[12:24] <pielgrzym> I have /boot on hde1 and / on hd4
[12:24] <pielgrzym> hde4
[12:25] <Hawkwind> ditte: I just installed it.  It comes from multiverse
[12:25] <Hawkwind> !info java-package
[12:25] <ubotu> java-package: utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.27 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 336 kB
[12:25] <kalagaraz> Could anyone help me fix: (xvidcap:24368): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:25] <pielgrzym> when I try doing 'other=/dev/hde1' I get a 'non bootable error (hence the partition has bootable flag :((( )
[12:25] <ditte> Hawkwind: this is a serious case of the what the f***. Do I need to restart the computer, after I enable multiverse?
[12:25] <Hawkwind> ditte: However, the java how-to page doesn't say anything about needing to install the java-package app at all
[12:25] <ditte> Hawkwind: before you ask, I *did* apt-get update:)
[12:26] <Hawkwind> ditte: No, did you do: sudo apt-get update ?
[12:26] <ditte> Hawkwind: it says so here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html
[12:26] <Hawkwind> ditte: You don't need java-package.  Read the instructions the bot gives here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:26] <ditte> Hawkwind: I did
[12:26] <ditte> Hawkwind: three times, just to be sure:)
[12:26] <Hawkwind> ditte: Nowhere does it say to install java-package
[12:27] <Hawkwind> ditte:   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[12:27] <Hawkwind> ditte: That's really about all you need
[12:27] <Blissex> pielgrzym: you got to put 'root=....' in an 'append' line.
[12:27] <sorush20> when I click on the floppy icon to mount the floppy I get the message that this feature is only available with HAL
[12:27] <ditte> Hawkind: paragraph 3, together with fakeroot
[12:28] <Blissex> pielgrzym: also, your 'lilo.conf' is like most a bit messy...
[12:28] <Hawkwind> ditte: You run PPC ?
[12:28] <pielgrzym> Blissex: 'append' line?
[12:28] <ditte> Hawkind: AMD64
[12:28] <Hawkwind> ditte: Then you don't need to be doing the PPC instructions
[12:28] <CFx> i tried alsamixer and the master volume is set to 100 but still the mp3 is not playing :-ss
[12:28] <Hawkwind> That java-package is if you own a PPC(Mac)
[12:29] <ditte> Hawkwind: and it says it doesn't have sun-java5-bin either
[12:29] <sorush20> CFx: are you getting any sound?
[12:29] <sorush20> CFx: from anything else?
[12:29] <pielgrzym> Blissex: like append='root=/dev/hde4' ?
[12:29] <ditte> Hawkind: I don't, this is a PC. A Sempron
[12:29] <CFx> yep...
[12:29] <Hawkwind> ditte: You sure you have all the repos set correctly ?
[12:29] <CFx> i am getting error windows box sounds
[12:29] <ditte> Hawkind: I jsut uncommented everything
[12:29] <Hawkwind> ditte: Might want to put your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[12:29] <sorush20> CFx: what program are you using to play the mp3?
[12:30] <Blissex> pielgrzym: like that. Wait a sec for an example
[12:30] <CFx> its kafennie
[12:30] <pielgrzym> Blissex: thanks
[12:31] <CFx> sorush20 any helps ??
[12:31] <CFx> plz
[12:31] <ditte> Hawkind: ok, doing it
[12:31] <sorush20> CFx: in kaffeine go to settings > xine prameters
[12:31] <CFx> sorush20: then..
[12:31] <sorush20> CFx: then go to audio
[12:31] <CFx> okie
[12:31] <CFx> then....
[12:31] <sorush20> CFx: what is selected auto?
[12:31] <CFx> yep
[12:32] <pielgrzym> Blissex: let me explain one thing :) I made a copy of my ubu but I separated the /boot to another partition in this copy. I just want to boot the copy to check if it will work
[12:32] <sorush20> CFx: is software audio mixer selected?
[12:32] <Zaire> !mp3
[12:32] <mark__> whee new laptop
[12:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <CFx> i have selected everything
[12:32] <CFx> lol
[12:32] <kalagaraz> how do I install xhost on a chroot?
[12:32] <ditte> Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/111
[12:32] <mark__> now to get wireless working so i can remove its lan umbilical cord
[12:33] <sorush20> CFx: do you have the codec for mps ?
[12:33] <Hawkwind> ditte: Your sources list is incorrect
[12:33] <Hawkwind> ditte: You need to add multiverse to the lines that have universe on them
[12:33] <CFx> sorush20: dono... where i can get them??
[12:33] <ditte> Hawkind: do you mean the last two?
[12:34] <sorush20> CFx: you have to follow the instruction about the mp3
[12:34] <Blissex> pielgrzym: not clear what you want to do. However have a look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23925
[12:34] <sorush20> and restricted format
[12:34] <Hawkwind> ditte: All of them that have 'universe'  you need to add 'multiverse'
[12:34] <sorush20> !mp3 > CFx
[12:34] <ditte> Hawkind: but I also leave "universe", right?
[12:34] <sorush20> ubotu: !mp3 > CFx
[12:35] <CFx> any sites to get those helps??
[12:35] <CFx> :-s
[12:35] <sorush20> !mp3
[12:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:35] <Hawkwind> ditte: Correct
[12:35] <sorush20> follow the first link
[12:35] <CFx> okie
[12:35] <Hawkwind> ditte: You want both universe and multiverse and whatever else is there
[12:35] <CFx> thnx
[12:35] <CFx> i need to check it... thnx
[12:36] <kalagaraz> xhost:  unable to open display "LOCALHOST:0.0"
[12:36] <kalagaraz> Getting that in chroot for 32bit
[12:36] <kalagaraz> when I try to do xhost +localhost
[12:36] <pielgrzym> Blissex: so you suggest to boot with my current kernel (located on hde6) with a certain parameter? will I be able then to unmount the drive with old os?
[12:37] <ditte> Hawkind: ok, give a minute to figure how to run kate as root:)
[12:37] <Hawkwind> ditte: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <CFx> is this the codec for playing mp3?? http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/vorbis/libvorbis-1.1.1.tar.gz
[12:38] <sorush20> is kubuntu in launch pad?
[12:39] <CFx> sorush20 : http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/vorbis/libvorbis-1.1.1.tar.gz is the mp3 codec???
[12:39] <sorush20> CFx: I can see that you need a little one to one help..
[12:39] <ditte> Hawkind: how do you know this kind of thing?
[12:40] <ditte> seriously, sometimes I think aliens run this channel:)
[12:40] <sorush20> CFx: /join #sorush20
[12:40] <Hawkwind> ditte: I've just learned how the distro works in some ways and hanging out here you can learn tons of stuff :)
[12:40] <kalagaraz> (xvidcap:24559): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:   How can I fix that?
[12:40] <Hawkwind> ditte: Sometimes they do :P
[12:40] <sorush20> CFx: did you join .. ?
[12:41] <ditte> Hawkind: you're a developer?
[12:42] <Blissex> pielgrzym: I am not suggesting much, just listin possibilities. Which are only two: you tell LILO where the kernel is, and you tell the kernel where the root partition is.
[12:42] <Hawkwind> ditte: Nope.  Just run the distro for fun
[12:43] <Hawkwind> ditte: Have been running linux for nearly 5 years now
[12:43] <ditte> Hawkind: well, it's almost 5 days for me:)
[12:43] <ditte> used UNIX some, though, in university
[12:43] <Blissex> pielgrzym: you can have one kernel with two different root partitions, two different kernels with the same root partition, or any combination.
[12:43] <Hawkwind> ditte: Hah nice.  Hang around here and you'll learn a lot of great stuff, I promise
[12:44] <Blissex> pielgrzym: note that all partitions where a kernel mentioned in '/etc/lilo.conf' is must be mounted when you run 'lilo'.
[12:44] <kalagaraz> How do I fix a GTK cannot open display error
[12:45] <pielgrzym> Blissex: thanks
[12:45] <ditte> Hawkind: I hope so...right now I haven't managed to install anything that wasn't a simple apt-get
[12:46] <pielgrzym> Blissex: I'll try to mess aruond :)
[12:46] <ditte> and even the apt-get ones usually don't work:)
[12:46] <kalagaraz> Seriously no one knows how to fix gtk errors?
[12:46] <kalagaraz> Why do I always get errors no one can fix :(
[12:46] <Hawkwind> ditte: Having these repos should solve those problems for you
[12:47] <ditte> Hawkind: well, hrmm
[12:47] <ditte> take rosegarden: every time I press a key it gives me a segmentation fault
[12:48] <ditte> that sounds like a hardware problem to me
[12:49] <ditte> wow. It works!
[12:49] <ditte> I can go play scrabble on yahoo! games again!
[12:49] <ManiCiA> r there every1 using kubuntu?
[12:50] <rfw> i'm a linux newbie trying to try out gentoo..can someone help with the grub setup
[12:50] <ditte> ffs...I downloaded Java an hour ago, and it already tells me I'm using an outdated version
[12:51] <sorush20> !dial-up
[12:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[12:51] <sorush20> !dialup
[12:52] <gmalex_> good night people
[12:53] <kalagaraz> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:53] <kalagaraz> How do I fix that? :)
[12:56] <kalagaraz> ...
[01:00] <kalagaraz> !libxaw
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxaw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <kalagaraz> !libxawdev
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxawdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <kalagaraz> apt-get install said there was only libxaw8-dev  7 and 6 versions too
[01:03] <kalagaraz> I installed 8
[01:03] <ditte> well, goodnight people...thanks again Hawkwind
[01:04] <kalagaraz> grr
[01:04] <kalagaraz> stupid shift+backspace
[01:04] <kalagaraz> Anyways I installed 8, but configure still giving missing headers error and to install libxaw development package
[01:08] <sorush20> what package do I need to install to be able to access read and write ext3 from windows xp?
[01:08] <sorush20> there is project out there .. I think
[01:09] <kalagaraz> ugh
[01:10] <kalagaraz> Is there a package I can install that will add everything I need to compile stuff
[01:10] <kalagaraz> I keep getting lots of configure errors and installing packages 1 by 1
[01:10] <kalagaraz> configure: error: *** OpenGL missing - please install GL development package ***
[01:10] <Hawkwind> kalagaraz: build-essential
[01:11] <kalagaraz> already installed it
[01:11] <kalagaraz> still getting OpenGL missing
[01:14] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: are you out there?
[01:16] <D3ltaCain> any one here can help with a possible XServer problem?
[01:17] <sorush20> how do I check how long i have been in a chat room?
[01:31] <scribblez> test
[01:34] <lupine_85> [00:34]  [Whois]  sorush20 has been online since 18/09/06 23:19:38.
[01:35] <sorush20> thanks lupine_85
[01:43] <oisacx> Is there any fan of azureus here? And someone who is running the latest version of it in kubuntu?
[01:46] <mad_man> azureus=hog
[01:46] <mad_man> fat hog
[01:52] <Kr4t05> mad_man: All java programming is.
[01:52] <mad_man> java=big fat hog
[01:54] <JohnFlux> what's the highest DPI printer you can buy?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: all java gui programming is :)
[02:00] <intelikey> who <insert discriptor here> set up an init script to over write /etc/motd    don't that break posix  and every other standard....
[02:02] <intelikey> the offending line    ../init.d/bootmisc.sh:          MOTD="`readlink -f /etc/motd || :`"
[02:02] <intelikey> no that's not it.
[02:03] <amarokker> Hi, i am trying to install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu. for some reason its not working? is this kinda problem mentioned in the fAQ?
[02:03] <amarokker> (cause i haven't seen yet)- anywhos, some problem caused by gnome-libs
[02:03] <amarokker> and i can't figure out what it is- i purge the trouble-makers. and try again- with the same result- yes, i updated, tried --fix-missing
[02:05] <intelikey> amarokker what's the error message ?
[02:05] <amarokker> pasting it now- wait a min.
[02:07] <amarokker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/6lGXJg12.html
[02:07] <amarokker> intelikey: mostly invalid archive signatures
[02:07] <amarokker> will it work if i delete those and try again?
[02:07] <intelikey> paste your /etc/apt/sources.list also please
[02:09] <amarokker> intelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FuVLXB52.html
[02:09] <amarokker> here.
[02:09] <amarokker> i got it from source-o-matic
[02:09] <intelikey> amarokker and you are not on dialup are you ?
[02:10] <amarokker> on adsl- but very slow- max download speed is 30kbps
[02:10] <amarokker> got into trble cause i tried saving up on the downloads using some old archive
[02:10] <amarokker> s
[02:10] <amarokker> started from a fresh kubuntu installation and got screw'd up long the way.
[02:11] <intelikey> amarokker try   sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:11] <intelikey> see if you get the same errors
[02:12] <amarokker> ok
[02:15] <intelikey> in your second paste i also sujest you comment out every thing from line 20 down    unless you just want to cause your self problems, or feel that software over two days old is too old.    and then   sudo apt-get update      but that's only a sujestion.
[02:16] <amarokker> intelikey: sure. no probs.
[02:19] <intelikey> i have nothing against adding a forign repo for a specific install.  but it should be closed as soon as it's not needed.   you don't want to pull in something by accident that will break the standard repos
[02:20] <ketsugi> Hmm
[02:20] <ketsugi> what can I use to display TeX documents?
[02:20] <intelikey> and apt doesn't check where it's from only if it's the newest.   newest != best    newest == newest
[02:21] <intelikey> tetex
[02:21] <lupine_85> newer is generally better, regressions aside
[02:21] <ketsugi> how about koffice?
[02:22] <lupine_85> koffice is just crap anyway ;)
[02:22] <Kalagaraz> Anyone know a program for taking videos of desktop?
[02:23] <jmichaelx> some say that the koffice word processor handles some foreign language scripts better..... hebrew, arabic and other right to left lingos
[02:23] <sorush20> is there anyway that I could find out how to detect my floppy
[02:23] <ketsugi> hm, openoffice writer doesn't open TeX either
[02:24] <intelikey> lupine_85 newer is generally where the bugs have not been found and remobed yet  :>
[02:24] <lupine_85> ketsugi: oh, sorry. I thought you were talking about repos :). have you tried xgdvi? (not idea what the DVI is about, but it says TeX)
[02:24] <lupine_85> intellikey: it's also where bugs get fixed
[02:25] <ketsugi> hm
[02:25] <ketsugi> I'm trying Kile
[02:25] <mad_man> i used kate to write a letter and saved the file normale. it turned (dont know when) into a binary. Why or how did this happen ?
[02:25] <lupine_85> most of the other repos never get updated
[02:25] <Kalagaraz> Anyone know where I can upload and host ogg videos for free?
[02:25] <lupine_85> IMO, ubuntu's repos get stale, quickly. Still, YMMV which is why you get to choose what repos you use :)
[02:27] <shulman> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 with the nvidia driver with dual screens. My screen #1 keeps getting a resolution slightly higher then what I'm setting it to. I usually set it to 1024x728, and it tries no matter what to kind of pan and scan around the screen. How do I fix this?
[02:28] <larson9999> it's my hard i have a hard time detecting
[02:29] <oisacx> hi i'm back
[02:29] <intelikey> shulman that's not a bug.  that's the "vertual"  setting in the xorg.conf   look it up.    comment out the line and it will stop that.
[02:29] <shulman> intelikey -- thanks!
[02:30] <Jucato> "virtual"
[02:30] <intelikey> local dependant maybe
[02:32] <shulman> odd.. I'm looking at my xorg.conf right now. There is no mention of virtual in there
[02:32] <shulman> I can pastebin this...
[02:32] <intelikey> paste it
[02:32] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:33] <intelikey> also of note.   if there is a copy of xorg.conf in the home of whoever starts X it's the one read, not the one in /etc
[02:33] <shulman> What confuses me is this is also effecting the login screen
[02:35] <beermunk> anyone available to help me out with some wireless questions?
[02:36] <lupine_85> beermunk: sort of :)
[02:36] <beermunk> heh
[02:36] <beermunk> i've got a dell latitude d500
[02:36] <beermunk> after weeks of google I can't find one solution to turn it on
[02:36] <beermunk> some posts read 'use ndiswrapper'
[02:36] <beermunk> some not
[02:37] <lupine_85> I assume it's using a broadcom card?
[02:37] <beermunk> i know that kubuntu doesn't support my chipset, a truemobile 1400 broadcom
[02:37] <beermunk> yep
[02:37] <lupine_85> is 1400 the model number?
[02:37] <beermunk> that's what dell calls it's wireless chipset
[02:38] <ulyssus> MrKnibbels: Besser?
[02:39] <lupine_85> hmm, a bcm4307
[02:39] <lupine_85> looks like you should use ndiswrapper
[02:39] <beermunk> hehe
[02:39] <beermunk> and that's where I get confused
[02:39] <intelikey> shulman where's that pastebin url ?
[02:39] <shulman> pastebin appears to be hanging -- here's my xorg.conf http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=22278
[02:40] <lupine_85> ok, easy enough... 1. blacklist th bcm43xx module
[02:40] <beermunk> i've found a bunch of sites with terminal comands
[02:40] <lupine_85> (add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - you'll need to be root/sudo
[02:40] <beermunk> k
[02:41] <kalagaraz> any tools for linux for coverting ogg video to mpeg or some other popular format?
[02:41] <lupine_85> mencoder ?
[02:42] <lupine_85> beermunk: once you've done that, drop to terminal for a second and run "sudo rmmod bcm43xx" - give it your password when it asks
[02:43] <beermunk> done and done lupine
[02:43] <lupine_85> shout when you're that far, and we'll move on to the fun of ndiswrapper
[02:43] <lupine_85> okay :)
[02:44] <beermunk> thanks, btw
[02:44] <lupine_85> next install the package "ndiswrapper-utils"
[02:44] <lupine_85> np
[02:44] <beermunk> already got it
[02:44] <intelikey> shulman it is which display ?   0/1
[02:44] <lupine_85> ok, and do you have some windows drivers for your card handy?
[02:44] <beermunk> actually, I don't
[02:44] <intelikey> or both ?
[02:44] <shulman> intelikey display 0
[02:44] <beermunk> i can find them real quick though
[02:44] <intelikey> k
[02:44] <lupine_85> go download them from the Dell website (I'd imagine) then :)
[02:45] <beermunk> i need the inf file?
[02:45] <lupine_85> the .inf and .sys, at the very least
[02:45] <lupine_85> it's best to have it all though
[02:46] <lupine_85> apparently the .inf should be called bcmwl5.inf
[02:46] <beermunk> downloading the driver right now, but it's an .exe file
[02:46] <beermunk> can I extract that I wonder...
[02:46] <beermunk> or do I have to go back to windows, extract it
[02:47] <lupine_85> hopefully it's just a packaged zip file
[02:47] <lupine_85> (in which case unzip should work) - if not, it might run under wine
[02:48] <beermunk> actually, i just found the inf file off of broadcom's website
[02:48] <lupine_85> the .sys as well?
[02:49] <lupine_85> I was about to say, they're here... http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/ (at the bottom)
[02:49] <intelikey> shulman well i'm with you.  i don't see a good reason for it.   i have many times seen xorg use the virtual setting and let you pan the display  but all i can see that i might sujest there is to comment out all rez higher than the the desired and see what it does.
[02:50] <beermunk> okay, got them both
[02:50] <intelikey> i.e. remove all mention of 1100+
[02:51] <kalagaraz> I can't move stuff to my windows partition?
[02:51] <lupine_85> okm stick them in the same directory together, drop to console again and run "sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/bcmwl5.inf"
[02:51] <Jiraiya> your windows partition is probably dirty and needs to be diskchecked
[02:51] <lupine_85> that's a lower-case i (as in eye ;) )
[02:52] <TheReconHunter> Hey, i have a quick question. In amaroK i somehow made the file menu disappear, anyone know a fix?
[02:52] <beermunk> okay, I want to install the driver, correct?
[02:52] <kalagaraz> I can take from my windows partition though
[02:52] <lupine_85> yep, that's what ^ ndiswrapper -i ^ does
[02:53] <lupine_85> after that, run "sudo ndiswrapper -m"
[02:53] <Jiraiya> don't do it beermunk, its a trap!
[02:53] <TheReconHunter> Someone plz help, its a pretty quick fix
[02:53] <beermunk> hahah
[02:53] <lupine_85> ?
[02:53] <Jiraiya> your computer will go X.X
[02:53] <beermunk> ahh - it gave me a list of commands after i did the -i command
[02:53] <beermunk> okay, got the -m
[02:53] <beermunk> added the alias
[02:54] <cpk1> i thought it was depmod -a or something to install a ndiswrapper module
[02:54] <lupine_85> ok, next is apparently some magical trickery with the .inf file (I got this from google) - "sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf"
[02:54] <dungkal> TheReconHunter: wait... ;-)
[02:54] <cpk1> TheReconHunter: just because we use kubuntu doesnt mean we all use amarok
[02:54] <Jucato> does anyone know what package installs the doc files in Quanta's Documentation tab?
[02:55] <cpk1> i use xmms and mplayer, not any of the kde stuff
[02:55] <beermunk> didn't like that command
[02:55] <lupine_85> what did it say?
[02:55] <TheReconHunter> ^^ i figured most of you did
[02:55] <beermunk> sed: can't read /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf: No such file or directory
[02:56] <lupine_85> heh
[02:56] <lupine_85> well, let's try it without that :)
[02:56] <Jucato> TheReconHunter: Ctrl+M ?
[02:56] <beermunk> k
[02:56] <lupine_85> just "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" now
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> well, cant anyone help? my gosh, it should atleast be installed
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> its udner like one of the first few tabs
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> aight jucato
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> lemme try
[02:57] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper -l (lowercase L) will show all installed driversand the hardware's status
[02:57] <TheReconHunter> horray thanks
[02:57] <beermunk> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[02:57] <lupine_85> you want to see "driver present, hardware present"
[02:57] <lupine_85> hmmm
[02:57] <lupine_85> does that file exist?
[02:58] <beermunk> yes
[02:59] <jpiccolo_> anyone know how i would be able to get streaming audio to work?
[02:59] <lupine_85> yes... it does. O, what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[02:59] <lupine_85> (L, lowercase)
[02:59] <beermunk> .  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[02:59] <beermunk> that's what it prints
[03:01] <lupine_85> hmmm... when you did ndiswrapper -i, did it give any error messages?
[03:01] <lupine_85> (that's eye)
[03:01] <lupine_85> silly fonts
[03:03] <beermunk> yeah
[03:03] <beermunk> here's the error:
[03:03] <beermunk> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[03:04] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[03:04] <lupine_85> ok, that means that ndiswrapper -i (eye) wasn't successfuly
[03:04] <lupine_85> hence why sed failed, also
[03:05] <beermunk> i see
[03:05] <beermunk> eye see!
[03:05] <lupine_85> hehe :)
[03:05] <lupine_85> so you got the .inf and .sys from the Dell site, and they were in the same directory when you ran the command?
[03:05] <beermunk> they're on my desktop
[03:06] <pascal_> How do I make my display stop going into standby every five minuttes?
[03:06] <pascal_> (when not using the mouse)
[03:06] <pascal_> (and keyboard)
[03:06] <Jucato> pascal_: System Settings > Display > Power Saving tab
[03:06] <lupine_85> so you'd run "sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/beermunk/Desktop/bcmwl5.inf" ?
[03:06] <pascal_> thanks
[03:06] <lupine_85> you can't use ~/Desktop because you're using sudo
[03:07] <beermunk> damn, forgot the home
[03:07] <lupine_85> (so it goes to /root/Desktop)
[03:07] <lupine_85> hehe :)
[03:07] <lupine_85> go again
[03:07] <beermunk> okay got that now
[03:07] <beermunk> now do the other command
[03:08] <i4get2> hmm edgy seems ok so far..
[03:08] <pascal_> hmm. it's not enabled
[03:08] <lupine_85> beermunk: yes, the sed one
[03:08] <beermunk> damn, -i gives me the same error again
[03:08] <pascal_> power save, that is
[03:08] <lupine_85> grr
[03:08] <lupine_85> sorry, but I've got to go :(
[03:08] <beermunk> aaron@aaron-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -i
[03:08] <beermunk> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[03:08] <Jucato> pascal_: is your screensaver enabled?
[03:08] <beermunk> that's alright - thanks though!
[03:09] <crimsun> ``sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -i'' looks invalid to me. What's that stray "-i" doing there?
[03:09] <pascal_> Well I just enabled it, but it doesn't show it because it goes into standby mode before I want the screensaver to show
[03:10] <pascal_> It also went into standby mode before I enabled the screensaver
[03:10] <kalagaraz> How do I start the kde-manager
[03:10] <kalagaraz> kde theme manager
[03:10] <Jucato> pascal_: hm... that's really strange
[03:10] <pascal_> I knwo
[03:10] <Jucato> kalagaraz: kde theme manager or kdm theme manager?
[03:10] <kalagaraz> umm dunno...
[03:10] <kalagaraz> The one that changes the color of my windows and stuff
[03:11] <Jucato> kalagaraz: ah, kde theme manager
[03:11] <Jucato> kalagaraz: but you can change those stuff in System Settings > Appearance
[03:11] <kalagaraz> I that a ,kth file
[03:11] <Jucato> ah
[03:11] <pascal_> I find out another day. Thanks kalagaraz
[03:11] <Jucato> kalagaraz: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[03:12] <kalagaraz> what he thank me for/
[03:12] <Jucato> kalagaraz: just make sure that you already have the other "settings/themes" required by the .kth file, otherwise you end up with a botched theme
[03:12] <kalagaraz> well I installed it before
[03:12] <kalagaraz> but I decided to hold power button down to logout
[03:12] <kalagaraz> log back in and its all screwed up :(
[03:13] <Jucato> ...
[03:13] <kalagaraz> hmm
[03:13] <kalagaraz> yay
[03:13] <kalagaraz> back to normal
[03:13] <Jucato> :)
[03:14] <kalagaraz> note to self: no holding down power button for quick shutdown :(
[03:14] <Jucato> heh. that's an emergency shutdown :P
[03:15] <kalagaraz> whats a good FPS to record at for istanbul
[03:16] <kalagaraz> I tried 30fps and when I watched the video it did about 3 minutes of recording in 2 seconds
[03:16] <kalagaraz> hold that thought, brb
[03:17] <intelikey> kalagaraz hold down power button ?    na  just pull the plug  :>
[03:17] <Jucato> believe it or not, my mom thought that was the normal way to turn off a computer...
[03:18] <Jucato> pre-XP days
[03:18] <cpk1> i thought you just flipped the switch on the power strip
[03:18] <intelikey> Jucato it's not ???
[03:19] <intelikey> cpk1 man after my own heart...
[03:19] <Jucato> intelikey: now, cpk1's method is the normal way
[03:20] <intelikey> but seriously linux needs a file system that can take that kind of power off.  ext# can't take it.
[03:20] <intelikey> rieserfs can't either.
[03:20] <Jucato> hmm... NTFS? :P
[03:20] <intelikey> hehhe no.
[03:21] <Jucato> ah!
[03:21] <Jucato> FAT16
[03:21] <intelikey> vfat
[03:22] <osiris> actually ntfs has held up very well in my arcade cabinet, that gets hard powered
[03:22] <intelikey> vfat handeled it well.    romfs cramfs   would work.
[03:22] <osiris> an old quantum bigfoot drive
[03:23] <cpk1> hd now can handle sudden poweroffs
[03:23] <cpk1> i thought they made them so they dont land badly on a loss of power now
[03:24] <intelikey> it's "write in progress" that is the most dangerous to a modern fs.
[03:27] <steve_> Hey all. Quick question. I intsalled FLUXOBX via Synaptic. I rebooted, was prompted with the login GUI (kdm?) I chose FLUXBOX as my session type and logged in. FLUXBOX loaded up great. I right click on the desktop and there is a menu title labled 'FLUX' but there is NO MENUS under it! Where are the menus that are supposed to be there? All there is is a lil rectangle with the work FLUX in it. Any pointers from you?
[03:27] <cpk1> you probably need to put things into the menu
[03:27] <steve_> how do i do that? what conf file?
[03:28] <cpk1> your the one with flux =P
[03:28] <steve_> if you let me know what file is play with, i can google info on that conf file. I already googled to death with no luck on this issue.
[03:28] <intelikey> sduo update-menus
[03:28] <steve_> lol
[03:28] <cpk1> it probably defaults to not having anything in the flux menu
[03:28] <intelikey> sudo
[03:28] <steve_> thanx, lemmy try that
[03:28] <steve_> roger that
[03:29] <steve_> should i load the FLUX session and run that? or can i do that from within my XFCE session?
[03:30] <intelikey> flux.   might work from others... idk
[03:30] <steve_> k. thanx Intelikey
[03:30] <rpalkovic> FIrst off, I'm reasonably new to Linux.  Second, I love it.  Third, I need help from an experienced user to help with moving my boot partition
[03:30] <rpalkovic> :)
[03:31] <steve_> is it better to perform these operations within a terminal GUI or should i drop into a TTY?
[03:31] <ubuntu> hello are there any people here that can help me with me resolution?
[03:31] <rpalkovic> ubuntu: depends - what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:31] <intelikey> gui   in case the script looks for env $
[03:32] <steve_> no idea what that means, but thanx intelikey =)
[03:32] <kalagaraz> http://www.zippyvideos.com/5660016326006336/movie/
[03:32] <kalagaraz> Does that video look good?
[03:32] <kalagaraz> I like the plugin to watch it
[03:32] <kalagaraz> like = lack
[03:34] <intelikey> rpalkovic 2 questions.  do you dual boot ?   and why are you trying to move the boot partition ?
[03:34] <rpalkovic> i DID dual boot to winxp
[03:34] <rpalkovic> but then i gave bill gates the 'ol heave ho.
[03:35] <rpalkovic> but when I first set up my harddrive, I planned on dual booting to ubunto, so the boot partition is /dev/hda6 instead of (i think) /dev/hda1
[03:35] <rpalkovic> ubuntu*
[03:35] <ubuntu_> change it i try going into the screen resolution preference and it wont let me change it from m 640x480
[03:36] <rpalkovic> ubuntu_: you more than likely need to install your video card drivers.
[03:36] <intelikey> ok    and you want to change it why ?     (if it aint broke don't fix it or it will be)
[03:37] <ubuntuUser99> intelikey: thanx, the sudo update-menus worked from within a GUI terminal in a XFCE session. I logged out and logged into a FLUX session and the menus are NOW there! =)
[03:37] <ubuntuUser99> thank you very much intelikey
[03:37] <rpalkovic> intelikey: /dev/hda6 is only 10 gigs out of a possible 80 for the HD.   There's also about 50 gigs /dev/hda5 of windows storage that i need to get rid of now
[03:38] <rpalkovic> ideally - i want to move /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1, delete everything else but /dev/hda7 (swap) and extend the size from 10 gigs to 80 gigs.
[03:38] <intelikey> bad idea
[03:38] <intelikey> try this.   add the free space to your system
[03:38] <rpalkovic> i don't have free space
[03:39] <rpalkovic> because there are about 18 gigs of unpartitioned space (old win partition) and 50 gigs of ntfs partition (windows storage) that exists before /dev/hda6
[03:40] <rpalkovic> and i can't delete them because i can't unmount /dev/hda6 (linux boot) and /dev/hda7 (linux swap)
[03:40] <ubuntuUser99> I see screenshots of desktops. There is a translucent network and CPU load graph on their desktop. what is that app?
[03:41] <intelikey> rpalkovic all that "50 gigs of ntfs partition"   is free space now   is it not ?   format it and mount it.   duh
[03:41] <rpalkovic> im not a fan of non contiguous disk space :)
[03:42] <intelikey> so fix it the way you think best.
[03:42] <rpalkovic> im trying to...  problem is I can't figure it ou
[03:42] <rpalkovic> out*
[03:42] <intelikey> right
[03:42] <cpk1> ubuntuUser99: maybe you want to link us the screenshots?
[03:42] <intelikey> well good luck with it.
[03:42] <ubuntuUser99> good idea. brb
[03:42] <rpalkovic> thanks for trying :)
[03:44] <Jucato> draik!
[03:44] <draik> Jucato
[03:45] <draik> !
[03:45] <draik> wassup
[03:45] <plugs> how do i get around this? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[03:45] <intelikey> if you really don't want any breaks in your disk space,  mke2fs /dev/hda   and install on that.
[03:45] <Jucato> draik: not much. just put up the latest transcript
[03:45] <jj_> you install dependencies
[03:45] <draik> jmichaelx, did you receive the package yet?
[03:45] <draik> nice
[03:45] <draik> I have yet to work on them
[03:45] <rpalkovic> im guessing that's not going to preserve my current installation, right?
[03:45] <draik> met my mother-in-law this weekend... Good thing is that she likes me
[03:45] <intelikey> right
[03:46] <intelikey> draik wait 10 years and tell us if that's good or not
[03:46] <jj_> anyone in here run XGL/compiz?
[03:47] <draik> LOL @ intelikey
[03:47] <jmichaelx> draik: yes! i was looking for you earlier. i appreciate it VERY much :-D
[03:47] <draik> BTW, I'm not married, she just thinks that I'm going to propose this Thanksgiving
[03:47] <jmichaelx> draik: the package was at my door when i got home from work
[03:47] <draik> No problem jmichaelx
[03:48] <draik> was it what you needed/wanted?
[03:48] <jmichaelx> draik: definitely
[03:48] <draik> I'm glad :)
[03:48] <jmichaelx> me too!
[03:48] <jmichaelx> lol
[03:48] <draik> I can tell :p
[03:49] <jmichaelx> i will be sending you a bit of a reimbursement sometime this week yet
[03:49] <draik> don't
[03:49] <draik> it's not necessary
[03:49] <jmichaelx> i know, but i feel very grateful
[03:49] <jmichaelx> and want to
[03:49] <cpk1> plugs: if you use apt-get it should resolve dependencies on its own
[03:53] <sorush20> whois consolefx
[03:53] <sorush20> hi .. I think I was hacked by that person I was trying to help..
[03:53] <sorush20> after reboot I can't access my hdd I keep getting the message that the password list not present..
[03:54] <intelikey> rpalkovic before you go off half cocked and and try to install on hda  be advised that grub can not boot hda (lilo can however)   and i know of no ubuntu installer that can install to hda (but i have installed ubuntu there my self)   so if you are completely gung ho about it, i'll help but if you are whisteling in the breeze.  i sujest you just format and mount the rest of your disk  you can mount that 50g to /home  and sa
[03:58] <rpalkovic> intelikey: thanks for the warning :)  I'm not going to install on /hda becuase I'm trying to preserve my current installation.
[03:58] <rpalkovic> I know what I'm trying to do can be done, it's just a matter of figuring out how to do it.
[04:00] <intelikey> rpalkovic i know it can too.   make a new hda1 about 6g  format it  cp  your system to there.  rework grub reinstall it    re work fstab    re boot to the new partition and blank the rest of the drive.
[04:01] <intelikey> make a new hda2 out of the remaniing space mount it at /home  viola.
[04:02] <intelikey> cfdisk  mke2fs  cp  and nano    are all you need.
[04:02] <intelikey> and they are all installed.
[04:03] <intelikey> but when you finish you really wont have gained diddly squat.   your hd is still the same size.  and you still have partitions.  but they are numbered to your specs.
[04:03] <intelikey> and that makes you the winner
[04:04] <rpalkovic> lol
[04:04] <rpalkovic> I want two partitions, total.  78 gigs mounted at /, and 2 gigs for swap.
[04:04] <rpalkovic> im a pain in the ass, this i know.
[04:06] <intelikey> you wont do that without the process above.    only replage "make a new hda2 out of the remaniing space..."  with use gparted  to streach hda1   and when it borkes your fs  don't cry to me.
[04:07] <intelikey> resizing the partition the system is installed on requires boot from another source.  i.e. live cd
[04:08] <intelikey> i've gotten to where i don't even do partitions any more.
[04:08] <intelikey> i don't have a disk big enough to need partitioning
[04:10] <jmichaelx> <<likes machines with 4 GB and ^GB HDs :-D
[04:10] <jmichaelx> lol
[04:10] <jmichaelx> 6GB*
[04:12] <intelikey> yeah  i have 8 drives in this box  2x 4g and others are 8g
[04:12] <jmichaelx> ok that is very neat
[04:13] <intelikey> it's old  it's slow   it's dependable    it's configurable,  it's supported    :>
[04:13] <jmichaelx> yup
[04:13] <jmichaelx> not to mention cheap
[04:13] <jmichaelx> :-D
[04:13] <intelikey> free
[04:13] <jmichaelx> yup
[04:14] <intelikey> paid  $0.00  for it.
[04:14] <rpalkovic> It just occurred to me
[04:14] <intelikey> 17" crt  does 1600x1280   flawless  free.
[04:14] <jmichaelx> i spend (way) more time using my older boxes than my newer ones...
[04:15] <jmichaelx> wow
[04:15] <rpalkovic> that i really should have thought this through before getting attached to my configuration.
[04:15] <rpalkovic> not only is /dev/hda6 basically at the "end" of the drive
[04:15] <rpalkovic> it's also inside an extended partition
[04:15] <intelikey> rpalkovic just save  /home  to cd  and reload.
[04:16] <jmichaelx> my main PC does 1280x1024 on a 17 inch LCD, but i had to switch to 16bit color because its old graphics card could not support that rez at 24 bit
[04:16] <intelikey> and yes hda5+ will be extended
[04:16] <rpalkovic> grr.
[04:16] <rpalkovic> okay - lets try a different approach...
[04:17] <rpalkovic> can you think of any reason why I can't make any changes to the drive when booted from a Live CD?
[04:17] <rpalkovic> GParted won't let me edit anything
[04:17] <intelikey> jmichaelx odd thing with my old nv card  it does 24b and 15b  but not 16b   i have yet to figure out why 16b wont work.
[04:18] <jmichaelx> rpalkovic: i would suggest one thing... get the Gparted live CD... very very useful
[04:18] <intelikey> rpalkovic i told you you have to boot from another source.    can't mess with mounted file systems
[04:18] <rpalkovic> a live CD doesn't count as another source?
[04:20] <intelikey> live cd was my example yes.   you are using a live cd to attempt that now ?
[04:20] <rpalkovic> yeah, i tried that first
[04:20] <rpalkovic> booted w/ a Live CD
[04:20] <rpalkovic> ran gparted
[04:20] <rpalkovic> won't let me do anything but look, basically.
[04:21] <intelikey> but i still don't think you can change hda5 into hda1 with *parted
[04:21] <rpalkovic> i thought maybe the partitions had been mounted so I tried to umount them
[04:21] <rpalkovic> ahhh
[04:21] <rpalkovic> THAT might be the issue.
[04:21] <rpalkovic> so what I need to do is create /dev/hda1 in the unallocated space
[04:21] <rpalkovic> from a LIVE CD that is
[04:22] <rpalkovic> then cp /dev/hda6 /dev/hda1
[04:23] <rpalkovic> then change /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot from /hda1
[04:23] <Netslayer> I installed knetworkmanager and it's not finding any network devices, not even my wired one... any ideas?
[04:23] <intelikey> make hda1  starting at block 1   format it linux native   copy the system over   reconfig the system to live on hda1 rather than hda5   nuke all other partitions    resize hda1
[04:23] <rpalkovic> yes
[04:24] <intelikey> configuring includes  editing /boot/devices.map  /boot/grub/menu.lst  reinstalling grub   editing /etc/fstab      take notes      that's the last time i post it.
[04:25] <rpalkovic> heh
[04:25] <rpalkovic> i just copied it all down
[04:25] <rpalkovic> that's the first time i've heard mention of devices.map - here or in my google searches
[04:26] <intelikey> not sure if devices.map or device.map  but which ever exists.  you should make sure it's correct.
[04:26] <intelikey> it may not need any change  you are staying on the same disk...
[04:26] <rpalkovic> i don't even have a .map in boot
[04:27] <intelikey> /boot/grub/device.map
[04:27] <rpalkovic> oh
[04:27] <rpalkovic> and it's just mapping hd0 to /dev/hda
[04:27] <rpalkovic> i think it'll be cool to leave it
[04:28] <rpalkovic> but that's cool to learn.
[04:28] <intelikey> yeah.  like i said you are staying on the same disk.    but it's a good habbit to know what all affects the boot process and check all parts.  you may swap out a drive next time.
[04:29] <rpalkovic> last questions before i give this a go...  why reinstall grub if i'm not messing with /boot?  can't I just modify /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:29] <intelikey> try it and see.
[04:30] <rpalkovic> * is assuming that /boot is a seperate mount, not a subdir of /
[04:30] <intelikey> if boot is a partition.   then you will still have hda1 hda? and hda6
[04:31] <intelikey> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[04:31] <rpalkovic> it's not, I don't, good point.
[04:32] <rpalkovic> alright.  i'm going to give this a go.  all else fails I'll just start from scratch.
[04:32] <powermac> hi. anyone have experience installing Mapivi?
[04:32] <intelikey> rpalkovic you are also using an init*.img   you should regenerate it.
[04:32] <leyci> oi!!
[04:32] <intelikey> it may try to mount / as hda5
[04:33] <leyci> alguem do brasil???
[04:33] <powermac> eu
[04:33] <intelikey> ignoring the fstab    i don't think they are that dumb  but you never know about distro builders
[04:34] <intelikey> they are like support personal,   you just never know.
[04:34] <rpalkovic> hah
[04:34] <Jucato> !br
[04:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:35] <leyci> nesse canal s se fala ingles???
[04:37] <intelikey> ryan____________ if you would add a few under scores to that i think you would have a unique nickname
[04:37] <aaron> okay, damn
[04:37] <aaron> how hard is it to mount a ntfs partition anyway?!
[04:37] <aaron> Answer - pretty damn hard!
[04:38] <aaron> anyone done this before?
[04:38] <leyci>  <powermac>vc  do brasil??
[04:38] <powermac> to no BR
[04:38] <leyci>  <powermac>vc  d ond??
[04:38] <intelikey> aaron  sudo mount /dev/<device> /media/<mount.point> umask=0
[04:39] <Jucato> HobbseeWithSword: lol!
[04:39] <intelikey> aaron it's childs play
[04:39] <powermac> entra ai no ubuntu BR
[04:40] <Jucato> !br
[04:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:40] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu-br
[04:42] <powermac> how about perl/Tk? any tips?
[04:42] <intelikey> aaron the <device>  can ascertained via  "sudo fdisk -l "   and mount point created or selected <mount.point> == any empty dir
[04:42] <powermac> i'm stuck trying to install an app which requires it
[04:43] <InteliWasp> how do i brigde 2 network interfaces?
[04:43] <intelikey> doesn't actually have to be empty.   but any thing in the dir will be inaccessable while the fs is mount on over it.
[04:43] <powermac> looks like all is installed, but perhaps in wrong place
[04:44] <intelikey> powermac post the error message.  (not the full output, only the first line that says ERROR )
[04:44] <powermac> ok, hang on.
[04:45] <aaron> intelikey:  i found a guide here:
[04:45] <aaron> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:45] <aaron> #
[04:45] <aaron> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:45] <aaron> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:45] <aaron> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:45] <aaron> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:45] <aaron> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:45] <aaron> damn, sorry about the spam
[04:45] <aaron> ctrl c didn't work
[04:45] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:46] <aaron> intelikey:  here's the guide I was looking at for mounting my ntfs partition
[04:46] <aaron> http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php
[04:46] <powermac> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177.
[04:46] <aaron> everything was fine until I got to "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[04:46] <aaron> my hda2 wasn't located there
[04:46] <aaron> so I couldn't change it
[04:47] <aaron> I added it but it didn't work
[04:47] <Dendron> can anyone tell me any ideas on why Ubuntu freezes up on me on my laptop and i have to then do a hard reboot.?
[04:47] <aaron> actually, i shouldn't say it didn't work
[04:47] <intelikey> aaron ok.   but i'm not the one wanting to know how.  :)     what's the device node?   hda2 ?    are you sure ?
[04:47] <aaron> after I added it, saved the file and then did "sudo mount -a"
[04:47] <aaron> so it looks like it mounted in the /windows folder I made, but now that folder's locked, I'm assuming because of the windows permissions
[04:48] <aaron> or did I do something wrong?
[04:48] <aaron> intelikey:  sorry, I saw that you replied to me before :)
[04:48] <intelikey> aaron post the one line from your fstab that you added.
[04:48] <powermac> not sure if you went over this, but i think you have to change the file permissions
[04:48] <aaron> standby
[04:49] <intelikey> powermac what app is this ?
[04:49] <powermac> i found i had to unmount paritions before using chmod
[04:49] <powermac> sorry
[04:49] <powermac> its called mapivi
[04:49] <aaron> .  /dev/hda2       /windows        ntfs    nosuid,nodev    0       0
[04:49] <powermac> a perl app photo browser
[04:50] <intelikey>  /dev/hda2       /windows        ntfs    nosuid,nodev,fmask=111,dmask=000    0       0   <<< change it to that for full access.
[04:50] <intelikey> aaron ^
[04:50] <aaron> yes?
[04:51] <aaron> ahh
[04:51] <aaron> thanks
[04:51] <intelikey> aaron then remount it.
[04:51] <powermac> http://mapivi.sourceforge.net/mapivi.shtml
[04:52] <intelikey> powermac yeah i was searching the repos for it...
[04:52] <powermac> funny, i managed to istall it ok on a powerbook
[04:52] <powermac> had some problems, but eventually it worked
[04:52] <powermac> now i'm on a powermac, obviously
[04:53] <intelikey> powermac give us the reason that preceeded "BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177"   should be just above it.
[04:53] <powermac> Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC
[04:53] <aaron> intelikey:  thanks for that, after I saved the file i remounted it by "sudo mount -a" but the folder is still locked
[04:53] <powermac> is actually a few lines abouve
[04:53] <aaron> The error I get is : Unable to enter file:///windows. You do not have access rights to this location
[04:53] <intelikey> aaron that doesn't remount
[04:53] <aaron> ah
[04:54] <intelikey> aaron sudo umount -a ;sudo mount -a   will remount
[04:54] <aaron> umount: /dev: device is busy
[04:54] <aaron> umount: /var/run: device is busy
[04:54] <aaron> umount: /: device is busy
[04:54] <llxcamxll> what sorta benefits i gonna get from the full upgrade??
[04:54] <aaron> might have to restart eh?
[04:55] <intelikey> no
[04:55] <intelikey> it worked.
[04:55] <intelikey> look ad see
[04:55] <intelikey> llxcamxll little if any
[04:55] <aaron> HOLY SH*T - you are a God
[04:55] <intelikey> nope.
[04:56] <intelikey> if you think i am   just wait until you really meat one
[04:56] <Jucato> hm.. how do you meat a god? :P
[04:56] <Jucato> oops.. forgot my promise
[04:56] <Jucato> sorry intelikey
[04:57] <aaron> heheh
[04:57] <intelikey> Jucato was capitalized.   only one meaning.
[04:57] <InteliWasp> how do i brigde 2 network interfaces?
[04:57] <aaron> no, thank you - that's awesome
[04:57] <aaron> really really apreciate it
[04:57] <intelikey> np
[04:57] <aaron> i just got one step closer to never having to go back to xp
[04:57] <intelikey> like i said it's child's play
[04:57] <aaron> child's play, if you know what you're doing - but I'm learning
[04:58] <mad_man> can i open a exe file using wine on kubuntu that i downloaded ?
[04:58] <intelikey> i wish i knew about networking... so i could answer InteliWasp's Q
[04:58] <aaron> can you recommend a good vnc program that will work with Realvnc server installed on a windows machine?
[04:58] <intelikey> yep
[04:58] <ricucho> Hello...
[04:58] <aaron> hi!
[04:58] <intelikey> tightvnc should aaron
[04:59] <aaron> thanks
[04:59] <crweb> aaron: there is also vncviewer
[04:59] <ricucho> I'm trying the wireless card on my new pc to work but I'm having a bunch of problems
[05:00] <InteliWasp> intelikey: do you know where i could look for answers?
[05:00] <ricucho> I was wondering if someone could help?
[05:01] <intelikey> InteliWasp ##linux is often very helpful with my networking questions.  just don't tell them i sent you. and you might want to use another nick.... :)
[05:01] <powermac> you can also check out the install instructions on the ubuntu forum
[05:01] <ricucho> I used ndiswrapper to intalled the bcmwl5 driver but the network manager doesnt see the wriles card
[05:01] <InteliWasp> is that with 2 #  ?
[05:02] <InteliWasp> and do i want to know why i need to change my identity for that chann?
[05:02] <intelikey> yes
[05:03] <intelikey> well unless you want them to think it's me....   and two ##
[05:03] <powermac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130912&highlight=mapivi
[05:03] <intelikey> powermac try installing   libgtk2-perl   and run that again.
[05:04] <powermac> ok
[05:04] <powermac> am looking 4 it now
[05:05] <powermac> i thought i installed all those "libs"
[05:05] <ricucho> could someone help me w/ my wireless card?
[05:05] <InteliWasp> ricucho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:05] <powermac> i have no experience with that - mine always worked
[05:05] <InteliWasp> ricucho: is that your card right?
[05:06] <intelikey> powermac that may not be the reason but  *.pm   generally means a perl module
[05:06] <mark_> !kde3.5.4
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <powermac> yes, it is a perl module
[05:06] <mark_> !kde 3.5.4
[05:06] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:06] <intelikey> !wifi > ricucho
[05:06] <mark_> eh, anyone have the gpg keys and repository for 3.5.4?
[05:06] <powermac> root@powermac:~/downloads/mapivi081# perl mapivi
[05:06] <powermac> Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at mapivi line 177.
[05:06] <powermac> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 177.
[05:07] <powermac> sry for huge amounts, but thats the full error msg
[05:08] <intelikey> oh   hehhe   sudo apt-get install perl-tk    - Perl module providing the Tk graphics library.
[05:08] <powermac> which i still get after installing the new lib
[05:08] <powermac> i have it all on my machine, but i think it in the wrong place
[05:08] <powermac> apt get will put it right?
[05:08] <intelikey> should
[05:09] <intelikey> apt is not infalable   not by a long shot.  but it's pretty good.
[05:09] <mark_> hush intellikey
[05:09] <mark_> apt has super cow powers
[05:10] <powermac> Package perl-tk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:10] <powermac> no cow...
[05:10] <intelikey> apt is only as good as the app it calls    (at best)
[05:10] <intelikey> powermac it's in the repos.  check your sources.list
[05:10] <powermac> ah
[05:10] <intelikey> !into perl-tk
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about into perl-tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <powermac> where is the sources list again?
[05:11] <intelikey> hmmm my  apt-cache search  shows    perl-tk - Perl module providing the Tk graphics library.   but the bot didn't find it...
[05:12] <Hawkwind> powermac: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[05:12] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:12] <intelikey> say /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <mark_> wanna help me out intellikey?
[05:12] <intelikey> with ?
[05:12] <intelikey> the repo for kde #
[05:13] <mark_> yes
[05:13] <mark_> :)
[05:13] <intelikey> i don't know.  it.
[05:13] <mark_> darn
[05:13] <Hawkwind> mark_: What repo ?
[05:13] <mark_> kde 3.5.4
[05:13] <powermac> which repositories do i want?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> its mentioned on the kubuntu web site  for the testing kubuntu in edgy
[05:13] <Hawkwind> mark_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main
[05:14] <Hawkwind> powermac: You want universe, multiverse, main atleast
[05:14] <powermac> ok
[05:15] <intelikey> mark_ see Hawkwind above ^
[05:16] <intelikey> powermac      main restricted universe multiverse
[05:16] <intelikey> that standard   ^
[05:17] <Xanith> Hi, I'm trying to install the binary nvidia drivers... but when i type sudo nvidia-glx config enable, it says command not found
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. doing a dist-upgrade and all the kde stuff is still held back
[05:21] <powermac> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[05:21] <powermac>   perl-tk
[05:21] <intelikey> if some good developers would take an interest in "wesnoth"  it's got the makings of a really good and flexable game.    just needs some campains developed  that dont force you through a strict path of events.    it kinda makes ya feel like you are just there to watch, not involved or in control...     but the underlying game engine is pretty awsome.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> You mean it plays like  games Like Starcraft/warcraft used to do? :P
[05:22] <cpk1> i like wesnoth ^^
[05:22] <intelikey> Dr_Willis i don't know never saw them.
[05:22] <cpk1> multiplayer can be a little slow though
[05:23] <intelikey> cpk1 yeah it's not really the type of game that is made for multiplayer.
[05:23] <intelikey> i mean it's basic design.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> Good old "Warlords" :)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> I was playing that under DosBox the other day
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Ok Kopete krashes like noones business
[05:25] <intelikey> like nobody binus
[05:25] <powermac> Setting up perl-tk (800.025-2)
[05:26] <powermac> and i get the same error, except the line number specified is different.
[05:26] <gdarel> Does anyone know where I can get some good information on hooking up a GC89 wireless (gsm) card?
[05:26] <intelikey> that's impossabe.
[05:26] <powermac> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mapivi line 178.
[05:26] <cpk1> gdarel: the wiki
[05:27] <cpk1> gdarel: this for a laptop?
[05:27] <gdarel> yup
[05:27] <powermac> ok, so TK is on my machine, but perl can't find it, or the program cant' find it
[05:27] <cpk1> gdarel: the wiki has a list of what works natively and what needs ndiswrapper
[05:27] <powermac> where is it supposed to go?
[05:27] <cpk1> gdarel: either it *shouldnt* be difficult
[05:28] <powermac> how do i move it there?
[05:28] <intelikey> TK.pm would be the perl module for TK   if i am reading that correctly.
[05:28] <intelikey> dont move.  link.
[05:28] <cpk1> either way it shouldnt be difficult that is
[05:28] <powermac> Can't locate Tk/JPEG.pm in @INC
[05:28] <gdarel> Lemme take a peek  at the wiki
[05:28] <powermac> hmm, how do i do that?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Binaries?
[05:29] <intelikey> powermac   man ln     but syntax is;  ln -s /path/to/real /path/to/link.name
[05:29] <gdarel> Ah OK, I'm not concerned about the network card, the laptop has an internal one that works great
[05:29] <gdarel> I'm looking to get the wireless modem working
[05:29] <intelikey> DaSkreech ?
[05:29] <cpk1> oh hehe
[05:30] <powermac> ok, but where do i put that?
[05:30] <gdarel> I have not used a modem in like 10 years and cant remember crap
[05:30] <powermac> i dont know where the tk went, do it?
[05:30] <thompa> !edgy
[05:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:30] <powermac> do i?
[05:31] <intelikey> powermac find / -name <what ever you want to find>      and link it to where that thing is searching... but i'm still thinking you have something missing.
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Ok Kopete krashes like noones binaries?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> !hoary
[05:31] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[05:31] <powermac> me too
[05:32] <powermac> the instructions seem so easy
[05:32] <powermac> like golf, i guess
[05:32] <intelikey> powermac example of linking things.   ln -s /media ~/media
[05:33] <intelikey> put your mount point at your fingure tips
[05:33] <intelikey> you can rm the link at any time.   just don't rm with -R  or you wipe out whatever is mounted there
[05:33] <powermac> ok, well i think i'll have to deal with this later...
[05:34] <powermac> thanks so much though
[05:34] <powermac> was able to get apt-get working!
[05:34] <sandokan512> HOLA ANDRS MUJICA
[05:34] <DaSkreech> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:34] <intelikey> but again.  i think it's looking for something "not installed"  but the error message may be misleading.
[05:35] <powermac> did you take a look at the mapivi site/instructions
[05:35] <powermac> ?
[05:35] <sandokan512> FELICES FIESTAS PATRIAS ANDRA MUJICA
[05:35] <sandokan512> DIGO ANDRS MUJICA. FELICES FIESTAS PATRIAS.
[05:35] <DaSkreech> !kops
[05:35] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[05:35] <intelikey> powermac no.     did you do    sudo ldconfig     cant hurt.
[05:36] <sandokan512> Y VIVA EL SOFTWARE LIBRE
[05:36] <intelikey> powermac what's the rul ?
[05:36] <nalioth> sandokan512: can you take that to #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[05:36] <Jucato> heh
[05:36] <Jucato> too late :P
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Woah instaban
[05:36] <Jucato> Hobbsee has wielded her longish sword :P
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Watch out for her pen!
[05:37] <Jucato> Chanserv giveth, and Chanserv taketh away
[05:37] <intelikey> my watch battery is dying.............   ;[
[05:38] <charsiew> bwahaha...that last exchange was funny
[05:39] <powermac> ok, tried that. same error.
[05:39] <powermac> should i do a full system update?
[05:39] <josh_> i have a setup.sh file
[05:39] <josh_> how do i run it?
[05:40] <intelikey> powermac it's a shame that that app is not in the repos....
[05:40] <powermac> i know...
[05:40] <cpk1> sh setup.sh i think
[05:40] <intelikey> josh_ sh setup.sh
[05:40] <powermac> nice app
[05:40] <powermac> but its in perl to be multi-platform, so the author says
[05:40] <josh_> i did it once
[05:41] <josh_> i must have done a typo last time lol
[05:41] <intelikey> josh_  or   sh /path/to/file/setup.sh     <--translate
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> !info nexuiz
[05:42] <ubotu> Package nexuiz does not exist in any distro I know
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> :(
[05:42] <josh_> ya
[05:42] <intelikey> !info kde
[05:42] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:42] <josh_> i got it after u told me the first time
[05:42] <josh_> whats the default port for teamspeak?
[05:42] <josh_> i dont know how to configure the server or anything
[05:43] <intelikey> i don't know.  i'm network illiterate,  and quite content to remain that way.
[05:44] <LKC> need help installing mp3 codecd and the like. i have changed the repositories top multiverse but now when i try to install pacages like libxine it says there was a break in the install
[05:44] <ironfroggy> is there a way from KDE to configure the CUPS server to allow connections from other boxes on my local network?
[05:44] <flaccid> ironfroggy: have you been using kcontrol?
[05:44] <ironfroggy> yes
[05:45] <flaccid> !cups
[05:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:45] <flaccid> read those?
[05:45] <Kiongku> hmm
[05:45] <flaccid> its in there, just can't remember where
[05:45] <flaccid> i'll look
[05:45] <ironfroggy> yeah i read those when i first set it up
[05:45] <flaccid> what is the error you get atm?
[05:45] <ironfroggy> i thought i found the right place in the cupsd.conf but it didnt seem to work.
[05:45] <LKC> plz help with insatlling music programs and codecs
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[05:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <ironfroggy> the server wont allow connections from other boxes. the other boxes just get a general cant connect problem.
[05:46] <flaccid> ok
[05:46] <ironfroggy> no cups specific errors, that is
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  you can always edit the cups config file manually, or reenable the cups web interface.
[05:46] <flaccid> so is the problem samba or cups
[05:46] <LKC> i have followed those pages but when i try to install i get errors
[05:46] <flaccid> you need to get something from the logs to see what the problem is
[05:47] <ironfroggy> i can do this through the web interface? i have that enabled already but i didnt see anything there.
[05:47] <Kiongku> LKC: what errors?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  i was thinking the web interface was semi-crippled.
[05:47] <ironfroggy> i know what the problem is. its configured to only allow local connections.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ironfroggy,  you sure the changes are taking effect?
[05:47] <LKC> im getting "break errors"
[05:48] <flaccid> ironfroggy: its in the cups admin
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> cups  cupsd.conf has some very elaborate 'allow/deny' type options.
[05:48] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: u think the prob for LKC is he did not enable the correct repos?
[05:48] <flaccid> ironfroggy: do you want anonymous access?
[05:49] <ironfroggy> flaccid: yes, nothing from outside my network will get to it anyway
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  hard to tell.. since we dont know what his errors are. :P 'break' errorws dont mean much tome.
[05:49] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: ehrm same here..
[05:49] <flaccid> goto cups server part in cups admin in kcontrol and change from localhost to hostname/lan ip and select anonymous
[05:49] <ironfroggy> if they do, i really dont care so much. my printer only holds 50 sheets so they cant do much damage :-)
[05:49] <ironfroggy> hmm..
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> cups  cupsd.conf  at the bottom . seems to have # Only listen for connections from the local machine.  Listen 127.0.0.1:631
[05:50] <ironfroggy> it asks for a admin password, but i never remember configuring one. i mean, i just installed cups and my driver and was on my way.
[05:50] <Kiongku> LKC: u tried to install from adept or from terminal?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> that may be for the web interface however.
[05:50] <LKC> to quote it it says" There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[05:50] <LKC> adept
[05:51] <flaccid> i just showed ironfroggy that in the gui admin
[05:51] <larson9999> i have to give my sudo password to configure cups via the www tool
[05:51] <ironfroggy> is there some default admin password for the cups installation?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  heck - that dident even work for me - untill i edited the cups configs and a few other tweaks.
[05:52] <flaccid> thats coz basic http auth is on
[05:52] <LKC> it gives me similar messages in "add & remove" and "package manager"
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> unless theyve some how changed the default cups settings.  the webinterface used to be locked out.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2064
[05:52] <bimberi> !cupsweb
[05:52] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart". Also, see !cups
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> How Dapper LTS Succeeded To Spoil CUPS Printing (Part One -- The Prelude)
[05:52] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: the only thing i had to do was make those changes to the group/user settings.  i undid them when i was done setting it up.
[05:53] <Kiongku> LKC.. paste ur sources in the pastebin and show me
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  heh - ok..  so we agree then. :P ya do need to 'tweak' cups to get the web interface working.
[05:53] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <Kiongku> yo Jucato.
[05:53] <Jucato> hi!
[05:54] <LKC> where do i get my sources (sorry im noob)
[05:54] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: yeah, apparently it's disabled by default for security reasons.  but as soon as you find the site telling you that and what you need to change it's not hard to deal wih
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[05:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:54] <Kiongku> LKC: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> 'for security reasons' is a thing that url i posted  sort of rants about. :P
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Kiongku: Whoops :)
[05:55] <Kiongku> DaSkreech: lol
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> but its  fun just to watch the  flamefest over it. :)
[05:56] <unix_lappy> hey Dr_Willis
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Howy unix_lappy
[05:56] <Kiongku> rofl
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Yo!
[05:56] <unix_lappy> ?
[05:56] <LKC> sent
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Wassssssssssup!
[05:56] <Kiongku> LKC: ehrm paste the url here :P
[05:57] <JFreakCapo> how can i mount a iso image in my hard drive into the cd-rom device ?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  you mount the image file to whever ya want to
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> the idea of 'into the cdrom device' is a little.. well.. missleading. :P
[05:57] <LKC> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23944 (sorry bout the name i thought it was to say ur name)
[05:58] <LKC> next time i will put mine
[05:58] <Kiongku> LKC: nvm.
[05:58] <reddwolf78> can someone tell me what happens if i find a virus on a thumb drive that has been infected and is there a way to cure it to use back with a windows os
[05:58] <flaccid> reddwolf78: what is the file extension/type of file?
[05:59] <JFreakCapo> Dr_Willis: let me explain something else, i have a virtual machine, then i need mount de iso image in the cd-rom device to see as a cd on the virtual machine, is it possible ?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 NameOfISOFile MountPoint
[05:59] <Xanith> how do i make certain programs start up automatically with kde?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  using vmware?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <JFreakCapo> right
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Blast why hasn't someone made that yet?
[05:59] <reddwolf78> i'm not sure exactly i know my friends windows was infected with the grimline virus and he asked me to cure some of his most inportant files
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  the vmare  configuration tabs let you select a .iso file for the cdrom to appear as.
[06:00] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Made what ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> JFreakCapo,  ive installed windows95 and other os's with that feature. :P
[06:00] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Give me a definition and a wiki link if there is one
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Xanith: You put the shortcut or script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:00] <larson9999> i have a vfat partition.  updatedb doesn't seem to catalog the files on it.  is that the way it's suppose to work and is there a way i can get it to be included?
[06:00] <JFreakCapo> Dr_Willis: thks a lot, i gonna look it for
[06:00] <Kiongku> LKC: back up ur sources.lst "copy it to a new file name in the same folder"
[06:00] <Xanith> thanks
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  it may have that mountpoint on ignore.
[06:01] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: how do i check that?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  or if its not mounted at the time it updates it. it may get ignored
[06:01] <LKC> so copy it but give it a new name in the same folder?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  update the  database manually while its mounted and see
[06:01] <larson9999> it is mounted.  it gets mounted on startup
[06:01] <flaccid> reddwolf78: scan it and try to remove the virus. thats about all you can do
[06:01] <Kiongku> LKC: yes.
[06:01] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: i just did update it and files on it aren't found by locate
[06:02] <Dr_Willis>  updatedb will automatically parse GNU Locates /etc/updatedb.conf
[06:02] <reddwolf78> but linux does not have a virus scaner that i know of
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Yes it does
[06:02] <Kiongku> LKC: bcoz if u give same name.. it does not do anything :P
[06:02] <thompa> there are some
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: It has many of them actually
[06:02] <reddwolf78> and i ran it through my windows virus programs and it does not touch it
[06:02] <larson9999> there is avg for linux
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: klamav, clamav, AVG(also for Windows)
[06:02] <reddwolf78> how can i find them
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /afs /amd /alex /var/spool /sfs /media"
[06:02] <snooplsm> hey fellows
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: No Wikipage
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> There ya go.. RTFM to the rescue! :P
[06:02] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: sudo apt-get install clamav klamav
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> it ignores /media
[06:03] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Make me a description and PM it to me if you want
[06:03] <LKC> well i tried coping it but it wont let me
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Xanith: I assume you don't use sessions?
[06:03] <Kiongku> Yeee.. i like AVG
[06:03] <Hawkwind> Though virus scanners on Linux are really geared towards those that run a mail server with windows users
[06:03] <flaccid> reddwolf78: it does not touch it?
[06:03] <Kiongku> LKC: do via terminal
[06:04] <snooplsm> i accidently did sudo vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config on my schools server and it said that was reported, do you think i'll get in troubler?
[06:04] <LKC> says "acess denied"
[06:04] <reddwolf78> my avg on my windows side dows nothing with the grimlin viruse
[06:04] <reddwolf78> does*
[06:04] <ricucho> Hello, could someone help me w/ my wireless card?
[06:04] <flaccid> Hawkwind: are they server AV solutions. i wouldn't advise installing them on a desktop..
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> im curious as to what was watching that. :P
[06:04] <snooplsm> ricucho where are you at
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> did it let you see the file? :P
[06:04] <LKC> it says i must become a member
[06:04] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Why not ?  I run clamav every day on my desktop without issues, and have for years
[06:04] <snooplsm> no, i thought i was sshd' into my pc
[06:05] <Kiongku> LKC: check ur pm
[06:05] <ironfroggy> holy crap i found true evil!
[06:05] <flaccid> reddwolf78: i still don't know what you mean
[06:05] <ironfroggy> all the times people refuse to help someone with a problem that is obviously a homework assignment...
[06:05] <ironfroggy> and i just saw a google ad for "We Will Do Your Homework!" for programming courses. sickos.
[06:05] <LKC> i have but to reply i must be a member which im doing now
[06:05] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: i do RTFM but how did you find out that PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /afs /amd /alex /var/spool /sfs /media"
[06:05] <flaccid> Hawkwind: ok sounds cool
[06:06] <Kiongku> LKC: oh ok register ur nick.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  i looked at the config file mentioned at the bottom of the updatedb man page. :P
[06:06] <reddwolf78> my friend has a realy bad virus that he got on his windows machine
[06:06] <reddwolf78> it got to everything on his system
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  im good at  learning/exploreing
[06:06] <flaccid> Hawkwind: it can scan ext2 and fat filesystems by cli?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  thats where -- >  " updatedb will automatically parse GNU Locates /etc/updatedb.conf" came from
[06:07] <flaccid> reddwolf78: best you can do is scan it and try to remove it... thats all you can do
[06:07] <Hawkwind> flaccid: AFAIK it can do all FS's.  I know for sure ext2, ext3, Reiser, XFS.  Not sure about Windows type FS's but I believe so
[06:07] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: WTH is /alex ?  the guy who coded it and forgot to take his name out?
[06:07] <reddwolf78> me and him tryed but nothing happens he still has it
[06:08] <seb_> hi guys
[06:08] <seb_> just installed a few days ago ... im soooo happy :-)
[06:08] <flaccid> Hawkwind: sounds cool. i think i mistaken that for a different AV which only does mail
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  no idea.  i dont knwo what /sfs /afs or /amd are either. :P
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  i would guess some sort of network/virtual filesystem thang. :)
[06:09] <Hawkwind> flaccid: clamav is geared towards mail servers, but can certainly run on the desktop too without issues
[06:09] <flaccid> sweet
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> 'sour'
[06:10] <flaccid> reddwolf78: nothing happens is not a decent answer
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> 'concise and useless' :)
[06:10] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I have a script that runs clamav and rkhunter every day and logs each to a seperate file.  Very handy for added security :)
[06:10] <flaccid> rkhunter?
[06:11] <Hawkwind> flaccid: It's a root kit checker like chkrootkit, but better IMO
[06:11] <Hawkwind> It checks for more things and happens to be a bit more thorough
[06:11] <reddwolf78> i just ran a virus scan on the thumb drive and it found nothing but if i would run a scan with avg on my windows it would find several files that is corupted
[06:11] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: What's the issue exactly ?
[06:12] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: You don't have to worry about viruses in Linux.  They don't really survive or exist.  There are some, but they are very few and far between and don't work like viruses on Windows
[06:12] <reddwolf78> my friend asked me to save some files of his that was corupted by the grimlin viruse for the windows os
[06:12] <flaccid> if they are corrupted and you can't remove, there is nothing you can do...
[06:13] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: And you're worried about them corrupting your Linux install ?
[06:13] <reddwolf78> no i'm trying to save some of his files that he realy needs
[06:13] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Then chances are you can't
[06:14] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: If you can't run AVG or MS's anti-spyware program on them to clean them up, then you can consider them trash
[06:14] <reddwolf78> so he could have them back for his windows  i was woundering if i clean them with linux could he still use them on windows with out the affect of the virus
[06:14] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Only if you can for sure remove the virus.  If not, then there is nothing you can do
[06:14] <reddwolf78> thats the thing i have no idea what the virus realy is
[06:15] <flaccid> yeah those files are dead if you can't remove the virus
[06:15] <reddwolf78> on my avg on my windows os it calles it a grimlin
[06:15] <flaccid> reddwolf78: but you have run avg on them and said they had a a virus...
[06:15] <reddwolf78> yes
[06:15] <flaccid> there is usually a link to read up about the virus
[06:15] <flaccid> you can always google a virus name
[06:15] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: You can tell AVG to heal or quarantine the virus
[06:16] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: If you can't do that, then they are history
[06:16] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: To put it simple, there is nothing in Linux that's going to help you unfortunately
[06:16] <flaccid> except the spread of the virus, but yeah
[06:18] <reddwolf78> ok thanks for your help
[06:18] <reddwolf78> i will have to let him know that
[06:18] <flaccid> perhaps its a good opportunity for your friend to convert to linux...
[06:18] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Bingo!
[06:18] <reddwolf78> lol i'm getting him started with it
[06:18] <Hawkwind> Darn great idea
[06:18] <Kiongku> flaccid: world domination...
[06:18] <flaccid> the security just rox
[06:19] <flaccid> you actually have security in linux
[06:19] <reddwolf78> he standing behind me see this and ask how the suecurity is for linux
[06:19] <reddwolf78> security*
[06:19] <Kiongku> hmm u cant modify key system files without password
[06:20] <flaccid> its true multi-user
[06:20] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Tell him that MS uses it for some of their servers :P
[06:20] <flaccid> just say 'NO VIRUSES ON LINUX'
[06:20] <flaccid> excuse the shouting
[06:20] <reddwolf78> lol
[06:20] <reddwolf78> how about hackers
[06:20] <DaSkreech> hi seb_
[06:20] <Kiongku> got firewall
[06:21] <flaccid> default security is at a good level
[06:21] <Hawkwind> Hackers are people who code :)
[06:21] <reddwolf78> or the ppl trying to get in to your system
[06:21] <Kiongku> actually i installed firewall separately
[06:21] <Hawkwind> You don't define hackers like most Windows users define them
[06:21] <Kiongku> yeah.. the bad ones are the crackers..
[06:21] <flaccid> script kiddies
[06:21] <ErikTheRed> what's a good program for batch transcoding from FLAC to MP3?
[06:21] <reddwolf78> sorry i get them confused sometimes
[06:22] <reddwolf78> can crackers get in
[06:22] <Kiongku> reddwolf78: dunno.. i put a firewall on my linux box and one thing i'm sure.. its much better then the one in windows.
[06:22] <Kiongku> *then than
[06:22] <flaccid> cracker is a broad term
[06:23] <ErikTheRed> or just ignore my question....
[06:23] <flaccid> cracker relates to mainly cryptography
[06:23] <flaccid> best just call them all cyber criminals
[06:23] <reddwolf78> with out a firewall would i have to worry about ppl getting in to the linux system
[06:24] <flaccid> reddwolf78: without a firewall on, linux is still very secure
[06:24] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: Any computer is only as safe as *you* make it
[06:24] <reddwolf78> i head it has a 128 bit encryption and it very hard to get through is this true
[06:24] <Hawkwind> reddwolf78: It doesn't matter what it is.  If someone wants in bad enough and they know what they are doing, they can get in.  Nothing is impenetrable
[06:25] <flaccid> reddwolf78: well ssh has more than that
[06:25] <reddwolf78> ssh?
[06:25] <larson9999> why would anyone connect to the net without a firewall?
[06:27] <llxcamxll> because stone cold said so
[06:27] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Why wouldn't they ?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> larson9999: A lot of people only use a router without a firewall
[06:27] <reddwolf78> some routers have a built in firewall
[06:27] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i thought most routers have firewalls.
[06:28] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Most do.  But a router won't necessarily keep someone out either
[06:28] <DaSkreech> ErikTheRed: Still hunting that down?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> If someone wants in bad enough, and they know what they are doing, they can get in.  No way around it
[06:28] <reddwolf78> true  all firewalls have a back door of somekind
[06:28] <flaccid> reddwolf78: secure shell
[06:28] <flaccid> no they don't
[06:28] <reddwolf78> oh
[06:28] <flaccid> if they did have a backdoor, wed be screwed
[06:29] <reddwolf78> ok
[06:29] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I only use a router.  I don't use a firewall.  Yes, my router has a built in firewall but that means didly to a lot of smart people out there
[06:29] <larson9999> Hawkwind:  sure, so the answer to your questions of why wouldn't they is because most routers have firewalls and even if not there are software firewalls that are free.  that doesn't mean someone can't get in
[06:29] <flaccid> router firewalls and iptables etc. do well. i'd be more worried about IE on windows ... unpatched exploits/vulns
[06:29] <ErikTheRed> DaSkreech: yeah
[06:29] <reddwolf78> like zonealarm
[06:29] <larson9999> Hawkwind: so you disable your router's firewall?
[06:29] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Right.  I stated that quite some time ago
[06:30] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No.  But anyone with the right skills can bypass a router and its firewall in a matter of seconds
[06:30] <reddwolf78> my brother in-law says he can get in to a linux system in 5 minutes ( some how i realy dought that )
[06:30] <flaccid> Hawkwind: i don't think thats entirely true
[06:30] <larson9999> Hawkwind: same goes for my car's security system but i still lock it
[06:30] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Sure it is
[06:31] <reddwolf78> buy cracking his way through
[06:31] <larson9999> :)
[06:31] <flaccid> reddwolf78: what a bullshit artists
[06:31] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I still use a router
[06:31] <reddwolf78> i know
[06:31] <flaccid> Hawkwind: how can they?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> ErikTheRed: Audiokonverter?
[06:32] <ErikTheRed> I'll give that a try
[06:32] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Software and things like routers are only as smart as the person who programs them.  They all have an issue, or a bad piece of code that can be cracked, hacked or whatever.  Nothing is perfect nor is it impenetrable
[06:32] <flaccid> at the end of the day. i've never seen a person on linux say, i've been hacked!
[06:32] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I have.  I've had it happen actually
[06:32] <flaccid> Hawkwind: yes but your generalisation stretches to every product...
[06:32] <reddwolf78> how long would it take a average cracker to get through a linux systems encryptions
[06:33] <flaccid> reddwolf78: atm, prolly another 5-10 years
[06:33] <reddwolf78> excusme cyber crim*
[06:33] <larson9999> someone hacked into my paypal account.  not sure how it happened since i don't open any email from paypal.  i just check messages on it's site.
[06:33] <Hawkwind> flaccid: There are many software exploits out there for linux.  For example, phpBB is full of them.
[06:34] <flaccid> Hawkwind: what does that have to do with a router firewall?
[06:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I've had my main website hacked due to phpBB before, and it runs Linux
[06:34] <flaccid> Hawkwind: that has nothing to do with a firewall...
[06:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Anything can be bypassed man.  Nothing is perfect
[06:34] <flaccid> thats an exploit
[06:34] <flaccid> yes but its not the firewalls fault or problem
[06:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: The system runs a firewall.  Just because you have a firewall means nothing
[06:34] <flaccid> its an proof of concept hack fo phpbb
[06:34] <larson9999> Hawkwind: that's because you're not using a firewall?  :)
[06:35] <flaccid> firewalls are port based......
[06:35] <Hawkwind> larson9999: This is on a professionally hosted website :P
[06:35] <Hawkwind> flaccid: So you're saying a firewall can't be bypassed by anyone in any form ?
[06:35] <larson9999> let's see.  use a firewall and then open all the ports so you can share your pr0n
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Are you using sessions?
[06:35] <Xanith> umm i have no clue?
[06:35] <larson9999> the swiss firewall
[06:35] <Kiongku> lol larson9999
[06:35] <flaccid> Hawkwind: no i'm saying that router firewalls work. you are citing exploits in software, not the disability of a firewall
[06:35] <Xanith> lol i'm sorta a n00b to linux
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Alright when you logout and log backin are the programs that you had open still running?
[06:36] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I never said they did *not* work.  I said they aren't perfect and they can be bypassed by the right person
[06:36] <Xanith> yes
[06:36] <flaccid> Hawkwind: yes but this example is not bypassing at all. the firewall allows port 80....
[06:36] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I own a router or 5, and use them and they all have firewalls.  That doesn't mean someone out there isn't smart enough to get around it if they really wanted
[06:37] <flaccid> but they are not getting around it
[06:37] <larson9999> i hate having to try to be secure.  why can't people just play nice?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Ok so that's not what you were talking about?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I wasn't saying the phpBB was bypassing the firewall.  I was trying to show you how nothing is perfect
[06:37] <Xanith> well the last thing i asked was how to get like mp3's to open in xmms by default
[06:37] <Hawkwind> The point is, a computer system is only as safe as *you* make it.  Not what you rely on others to do
[06:37] <flaccid> you just said That doesn't mean someone out there isn't smart enough to get around it if they really wanted
[06:37] <Hawkwind> !mp3
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: What's that for?
[06:38] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I thought he needed mp3 information but I read wrong :P
[06:38] <Kiongku> keep constant backup and nobody will cry
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Kiongku: LIke Visa or AOL :)
[06:39] <Kiongku> Visa? credit card?
[06:39] <flaccid> Hawkwind: just don't leed people on to think that a firewall is something more than port-based filtering
[06:39] <flaccid> :)
[06:39] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I never did
[06:39] <Hawkwind> I never once said it was anything different
[06:39] <flaccid> you said bypass and get around many a time...
[06:40] <Hawkwind> The point I was making, which still stands true, nothing is impenetrable, period
[06:40] <Hawkwind> flaccid: Because you can
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Why may I ask?
[06:40] <flaccid> but you are saying that you are bypassing the firewall. this is not true. the firewall is allowing.
[06:40] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i think it's a symantics thing here.  the question was how secure is connecting to the net without using a firewall(not a fool proof one).  i was just thinking that since most routers have them built in and if you're not using a router, software firewalls can be had for free.  so i'm thinking why wouldn't you have a firewall since they are basically free?
[06:40] <Xanith> umm because i like xmms?
[06:40] <flaccid> meh
[06:40] <Hawkwind> flaccid: You aren't listening.  Read up on the ways to get through a router and its firewall on the internet.  They all have ways of doing it in some sort of fashion
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Xanith: ok :)
[06:41] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I agree.  I never said you shouldn't have a firewall or a router.  Ya'll are misunderstanding the point
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Xanith: Konqueror -> Settings -> Konfigure Konqueror -> File associations -> Audio -> Etc etc
[06:41] <Hawkwind> He asked...how secure is it.  My answer was...it's as secure as *you* make it yourself.
[06:41] <Kiongku> Ah screw it ppl :p we love the net we stay on net.. just accept among the millions of pc. if u get hit.. u got bad luck
[06:42] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i got the point.  just because you have a firewall doesn't mean you're secure.
[06:42] <Xanith> thanks
[06:42] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Exactly
[06:42] <Hawkwind> That was my entire point all along
[06:43] <MarcC> how can I make it so double-clicking a .deb allows me to install it?
[06:43] <MarcC> right now it pulls up some sort of package examiner
[06:43] <Hawkwind> Just because you have a router doesn't mean you're perfectly secure either
[06:43] <DaSkreech> MarcC: Right Click -> install package
[06:43] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i got stopped before that because i'm thinking if someone is worried about security why would he not use a firewall :)
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Not sure about the Double Click though you should be able to do it
[06:43] <Kiongku> i heard router firewall are stronger than software based one
[06:43] <MarcC> DaSkreech: I don't have that option on my RMB menu
[06:44] <DaSkreech> RMB?
[06:44] <MarcC> I wonder if I need to install something?
[06:44] <MarcC> Right Mouse Button
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Not necessarily always true.  They can be, but depends on how they are made and who makes them
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Woah thats Fancy :)
[06:44] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: heheh :p
[06:44] <MarcC> is there a name for the .deb installer app with a gui?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Adept
[06:45] <flaccid> peace Hawkwind
[06:45] <Hawkwind> flaccid: You're sending me a piece of strawberry cake :P
[06:45] <MarcC> Hawkwind: sorry, I mean the one that usually comes up if you right-click a .deb file and choose to install it?
[06:46] <MarcC> Adept is just like Synaptic, right?
[06:46] <flaccid> i am?
[06:46] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Oh, no idea.  I use the CLI for all package management stuff.  It just....works
[06:46] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I was hoping :P
[06:46] <Hawkwind> You said peace....I was making a joke :)
[06:46] <flaccid> hehe
[06:46] <MarcC> Hawkwind: if only my wife thought so... ;)
[06:46] <flaccid> i ate all the cake coz i'm a fat *&&*#$
[06:46] <Xanith> how come adept doesn't have like as much stuff as gentoo's portage does?
[06:46] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Teach her correctly and she will :)
[06:47] <Hawkwind> Xanith: It does if you have all the repos enabled
[06:47] <MarcC> ok, does anybody know what this GUI .deb installer app is?
[06:47] <Xanith> well like i tried finding TuxRacer and it doesn't have it
[06:47] <Xanith> and it doesn't have the newest Opera
[06:47] <Jucato> Xanith: afaik, TuxRacer has been replaced by Planet Penguin Racer
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info tuxracer
[06:48] <Jucato> and Opera (not the latest, though) is available from the Ubuntu commercial repos
[06:48] <MarcC> Xanith: TuxRacer has been renamed hasn't it?
[06:48] <ubotu> Package tuxracer does not exist in any distro I know
[06:48] <larson9999> tux racer has been ppracer for years
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info ppcracer
[06:48] <ubotu> Package ppcracer does not exist in any distro I know
[06:48] <Jucato> !planetpenguin-racer
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info ppracer
[06:48] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 700 kB
[06:48] <ubotu> Package ppracer does not exist in any distro I know
[06:48] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhhhhhh
[06:48] <Xanith> haha... u can tell i haven't used linux in a while
[06:48] <Jucato> Hawkwind: mine was right :P
[06:48] <MarcC> it's like supertux or something
[06:48] <Xanith> last time i used it it was tuxracer
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !info opera
[06:48] <ubotu> opera: The Opera Web Browser. In component non-free, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:48] <larson9999> supertux is a super mario clone
[06:49] <MarcC> ok, so they're both available
[06:49] <Xanith> so i need to enable all repos?
[06:49] <Jucato> Xanith: not all
[06:49] <Xanith> which ones then?
[06:49] <Jucato> for ppracer, just the universe repo
[06:49] <Jucato> !opera
[06:49] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:49] <Xanith> what about opera? because i want to install it
[06:49] <Hawkwind> You need the non-free repo for Opera though
[06:49] <Jucato> ^^^^^^^
[06:50] <larson9999> i think they went to the spelled out version of planet penquin racer because ppracer was deemed lewd
[06:50] <Kiongku> why does ubotu say only as in price?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> The price is $0
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> but its not GPL's
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> but its not GPL'ed
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Free as in Beer, Vs Free as in Speech.
[06:51] <Jucato> Kiongku: because it's not "free as in freedom/speech"
[06:51] <Kiongku> lol
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> and not Free as in "Love" :)
[06:53] <Kiongku> o0
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Wonder when that Opera Browser is going to get released for the Nintindo DS.
[06:53] <Kiongku> lol
[06:53] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: I thought it was already available, but not built-in
[06:53] <Xanith> what about the game racer?
[06:53] <Kiongku> nintendo ds?...
[06:54] <flaccid> i heard it was too
[06:54] <Jucato> Xanith: TuxRacer exists no more
[06:54] <Xanith> nooo Racer...
[06:54] <Jucato> It's PlanetPenguin-Racer now
[06:54] <Xanith> grr =\
[06:54] <Xanith> people don't listen...
[06:54] <Xanith> Racer is a free car simluation game
[06:54] <humble> hey folks... i hosed my kubuntu dapper system trying to upgrade to edgy knot3... can anyone help me recover?
[06:54] <larson9999> racer is another game.
[06:54] <Xanith> Google > Racer (1st link)
[06:55] <larson9999> SuperTuxKart
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: Free Love is giving out?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  for the Handled DS..  i think its due out on a Cartridge in a month or so.. the new "WII" will have it built in i guess
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> humble,  heh - i just upgraded..no hassles.. so far
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> other then the gnome theme packatges being mad.
[06:56] <Jucato> Description: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin PlanetPenguin Racer, or ppracer as it is called for short, is a simple OpenGL racing game featuring Tux, the Linux mascot. The  goal of the game is to slide down a snow- and ice-covered mountain as quickly as possible, avoiding the trees and rocks that will slow you down.
[06:56] <Lamington> hey all
[06:56] <Xanith> would you get off the PlanetPenguin Racer... That's not the game i'm referring to
[06:56] <Kiongku> hey guys
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> I sort of like SLUNE
[06:57] <Xanith> The game is called Racer - A free car simulation game...
[06:57] <humble> i changed all my apt sources to edgy and did a couple of apt-update - apt-upgrade - apt-dist-upgrade...
[06:57] <Xanith> Google > Racer (1st Link)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> xmoto is getting me annoyed however. :)
[06:57] <Kiongku> in grub.. how do u read the entry number for the differsnt os
[06:57] <larson9999> Xanith: so what about racer?
[06:57] <Xanith> is it on adept?
[06:57] <Jucato> Xanith: ah ok. A while ago you were asking about tuxracer
[06:57] <Lamington> I've just tried to set up a jabber googletalk account in kopete... but its not working... got a good link anyone ?
[06:57] <humble> but when i re-booted... nade... says loading linux kernel and then hangs
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  grub starts counting at  0 (zero) rember that. :P
[06:57] <Kiongku> i know
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  and the description lines also count.
[06:57] <Kiongku> how do i count -_-"?
[06:58] <Kiongku> i count the lines?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> You wanting to boot to windows by default?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> or what are ya want ing to do?
[06:58] <Hawkwind> humble: Why where you upgrading to edgy in the first place since it's not stable nor released as final yet ?
[06:58] <humble> to help out with bug reports
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> leetness points
[06:58] <Kiongku> thats what LKC wants..
[06:59] <Hawkwind> Heh.  vmware is free :)
[06:59] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: or is it better use savedefault?
[06:59] <Hawkwind> humble: I honestly don't know how to help you revert from an edgy install back to a working system unfortunately
[06:59] <Lamington> good work humble
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Kiongku,  easiest way i found to do it - was uncomment the  example windows grub entry/stanza thats above the magickernel 'lines'  - that way you got windows first..  in position 0
[06:59] <Jucato> Lamington: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[07:00] <Lamington> thanks Jucato
[07:00] <Hawkwind> Lamington: There is also a step by step on the google talk home page for that
[07:00] <Kiongku> !pastebin
[07:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:00] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that kde wiki is also step by step :P
[07:01] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hm... shouldn't you be asleep? :D
[07:01] <Lamington> Hawkwind: I dont think it covers Kopete though... but the KDE wiki page Jucato posted is fine :)
[07:01] <Lamington> oh well what do you know
[07:01] <Lamington> I did everything right
[07:01] <Lamington> I just have to restart kopete :P
[07:02] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Probably soon.  Helping Liz pack and all for her trip to Vegas tomorrow
[07:02] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ah yes. the vegas trip
[07:02] <larson9999> Hawkwind: you're helping her pack by chatting?
[07:02] <larson9999> that's how i help my wife cook
[07:03] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I'm helping her by staying out of the way :P
[07:03] <larson9999> lol
[07:03] <Jucato> lol
[07:03] <larson9999> i need to get to bed so i'm well rested for my interview.  need to go back to work
[07:05] <warpzone> question, do GTK apps typically cause problems in KDE? both firefox and azureus seem to hang frozen at random intervals for short periods of time
[07:05] <Lamington> hmm still not connecting
[07:06] <Lamington> There was a connection error: Operation is not supported.
[07:06] <Lamington> What might that be ?
[07:06] <shogran> what ya trying ta do lamington?
[07:06] <Lamington> connect to googletalk with kopete
[07:06] <shogran> ok no clue sorry lol
[07:07] <Lamington> I dunno whats wrong
[07:07] <shogran> hmmm..
[07:07] <Jucato> you did install qca-tls package?
[07:08] <Jucato> or check if it was installed
[07:08] <Lamington> qca-tls is installed in kubuntu by default
[07:08] <Lamington> yes, I checked also
[07:08] <Lamington> so... I'm scratching my head
[07:09] <shogran>  kubuntu? i think im in the wrong room.. i have just regular old ubuntu
[07:09] <Jucato> yeah...
[07:09] <Jucato> shogran: you might be in the wrong room. this is #kubuntu :P
[07:09] <shogran> k
[07:09] <shogran> thankx
[07:10] <Lamington> he's using konversation
[07:10] <Lamington> :P
[07:10] <Jucato> ah no wonder
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Im using FrankeUbuntu!
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> a monster mix up of bits and parts.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:11] <Lamington> my jabber icon pulsates for a while and then I get the error message
[07:11] <Jucato> Lamington: really strange, as I'm connected to Google Talk right now
[07:11] <Kiongku> ?
[07:11] <Kiongku> why Franke :p
[07:11] <Lamington> Jucato: I only just registered a new gmail account a short while ago... perhaps it will work later
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Frankenstein!
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:12] <Kiongku> loli..
[07:12] <Jucato> Lamington: err.. probably?
[07:12] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: heh :P
[07:12] <Lamington> ah there it goes again
[07:12] <Kiongku> Lamington: >
[07:12] <Lamington> There was a connection error: Operation is not supported.
[07:12] <Kiongku> Lamington: hmm did u try enter gmail via webapge?
[07:12] <Kiongku> *page
[07:12] <Lamington> yes
[07:14] <Kiongku> Lamington: did u check in options if POP has been enabled..
[07:14] <Lamington> oh maybe I need to set it up as a "new" account in kopete... I didn't do that
[07:14] <Jucato> Kiongku: POP? for Google Talk?
[07:14] <Lamington> oh
[07:14] <Lamington> just a sec
[07:14] <Xanith> another thing about adept, there was things like xmms-themes and gkrellm-themes in gentoo portage, are those in adept?
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Xanith: No
[07:14] <Kiongku> Jucato: not necessarily..
[07:14] <Jucato> xmms-skins
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Xanith: You can get all 191 gkrellm themes though from the gkrellm site
[07:15] <Xanith> where is the gkrellm installation folder?
[07:16] <Jucato> Xanith: once you've enabled the universe repos, you can search in Adept for the packages, use keywords like "xmms" or "themes"
[07:16] <Jucato> Xanith: if I'm not mistaken, /home/username/.gkrellm
[07:16] <Hawkwind> Xanith: If you are looking for where the themes would be, ~/.gkrellm2
[07:17] <Lamington> hmm
[07:17] <Lamington> It still doesn't seem to want to connect
[07:17] <Hawkwind> s/Wonders/Wanders
[07:17] <Xanith> thanks
[07:17] <Jucato> Hawkwind: have a nice sleep :)
[07:17] <Kiongku> Lamington: are the settings correctly adjusted >>?
[07:17] <Jucato> Hawkwind: and don't stumble when you wake up :P
[07:17] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks.  See ya in a few hours
[07:17] <Kiongku> !jabber
[07:17] <ubotu> jabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, like MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org
[07:18] <Lamington> Kiongku: everything appears to be in order
[07:18] <Jucato> Hawkwind: maybe you will, maybe you won't :P
[07:18] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Nah.  I get to sleep in a bit tomorrow since Liz is home and will get up with Daniel to get him off to school :)
[07:18] <Kiongku> Lamington: actually what are u trying to do..?
[07:18] <Lamington> Kiongku: connect :P (jabber/googletalk, with my new account)
[07:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: he's trying to connect to Google Talk using Kopete/Jabber
[07:19] <pierreth> my Amarok does not work
[07:19] <Jucato> pierreth: please explain?
[07:19] <Lamington> pierreth: oh no !
[07:19] <Kiongku> Jucato: not sure how it will work
[07:19] <larson9999> errr, take away law enforcement and you'd find all sorts of dead people popping up.  cheating spouses of all colors comes to mind
[07:19] <Jucato> Kiongku: it works. I'm using it
[07:19] <pierreth> i will paste bin
[07:19] <Jucato> pierreth: what format are you trying to play?
[07:19] <Lamington> It should work, I've used it before... but for some reason its not working right now
[07:19] <Jucato> probably a connection problem?
[07:20] <larson9999> good night
[07:20] <Jucato> bye larson9999
[07:20] <Kiongku> Lamington: darn.. there's always some reason when something mess up :p
[07:20] <Lamington> Jucato: possibly
[07:20] <Lamington> I have a strange feeling that if I reboot and reset my modem... all will be well...
[07:20] <Kiongku> try... who knows
[07:20] <Lamington> brb
[07:20] <Jucato> Lamington: couldn't you just reset your modem?
[07:21] <Kiongku> i wonder if i mess up grub will my pc crash..
[07:21] <Lamington> Jucato: yeah, I'll try that first
[07:21] <pierreth> here is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23950
[07:21] <Jucato> in Linux, reboot isn't always the answer :P
[07:21] <pierreth> I cannot start it
[07:22] <Jucato> pierreth: have you been able to start Amarok before?
[07:22] <pierreth> Jucato: I already made a reboot
[07:22] <Kiongku> pierreth: try delete ur database?
[07:22] <royal> hi all
[07:22] <pierreth> Jucato: I don't remember
[07:22] <Jucato> ok.. that makes things a bit more difficult :)
[07:23] <Kiongku> lol
[07:23] <Kiongku> ya
[07:23] <pierreth> Kiongku: How can I delete the database?
[07:23] <royal> lol you know what I think I ran out of things to do on my linux build :P
[07:23] <pierreth> Jucato: I have just enebled the sound
[07:23] <Jucato> royal: xgl?
[07:23] <Lamington|away> oh guess what
[07:23] <pierreth> alsa
[07:23] <Lamington|away> silly me
[07:24] <royal> XGL? what do you mean?
[07:24] <Lamington|away> I had to change my firewall settings to allow jabber :P
[07:24] <Kiongku> ehrm seems another thing then..
[07:24] <Lamington|away> D'oh !
[07:24] <Kiongku> go go Jucato.. @_@
[07:24] <Jucato> royal: have you tried XGL? you said you ran out of things to do :P
[07:24] <pierreth> Kiongku: How can I delete the db?
[07:24] <royal> no what is it?
[07:24] <Jucato> !xgl
[07:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:24] <Kiongku> i thought it may be was the db.. but then u said u only activated alsa..
[07:25] <Xanith> is there like a command to extract all tar.gz files in a folder?
[07:25] <Lamington|away> Its all good folks... just had to update firewall config :P
[07:25] <Jucato> Xanith: tar xvzf <.tar.gz file>
[07:25] <Jucato> or use Ark if you prefer GUI
[07:25] <Xanith> well there's 191 themes...
[07:25] <Xanith> i dont want to type that command 191 times
[07:25] <warpzone> Xanith: have you tried tar -xvvzf *.gz
[07:25] <royal> eh no I don't think I could do that (no programing knoledge)
[07:26] <warpzone> i dont know if that would work though
[07:26] <Xanith> oh yea i forgot about that... let me try that
[07:26] <pierreth> warpzone: this will not work
[07:26] <Jucato> royal: it doesn't need programming... (but I'm not familiar with it)
[07:26] <Kiongku> why double v
[07:26] <warpzone> ooops nvm shot down
[07:26] <warpzone> Kiongku: um, more verbose than verbose? :-P
[07:26] <Kiongku> haha
[07:26] <royal> the only thinks I have yetto fix on it are problems I've been over before and cant fix... one is wine related so I'll skip that. second is how to get YTMND mp3's to play on Konquerer or Firefox
[07:27] <pierreth> ll | grep .gz | xargs tar xvfz
[07:27] <Kiongku> pierreth: it u want to try delete the db i think u can find it at ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[07:27] <royal> I got flash, I got the MP3 fix, so I'm stumped there
[07:27] <Kiongku> collection.db or something may be
[07:27] <pierreth> well ls -al because ll is an alias of mine
[07:27] <warpzone> pierreth: whoa want to explain that command to me?
[07:27] <Xanith> warpzone: that doesn't work...
[07:28] <Kiongku> YTMND?
[07:28] <Jucato> Xanith: why not just right-click on the .tar.gz and choose Extract Here?
[07:28] <royal> www.YTMND.COM
[07:28] <Xanith> it doesn't have the extract here option in the menu
[07:28] <pierreth> i mean ls -al | grep .gz | xargs tar xvfz
[07:28] <Xanith> i have to open ark for each one and extract it...
[07:28] <royal> that site that has images and plays sound over it
[07:28] <pierreth> ls -al gives the list of the directory
[07:29] <Kiongku> royal: basically a streaming website?
[07:29] <royal> yeah
[07:29] <warpzone> pierreth: what is xargs?
[07:29] <Jucato> Xanith: why do you have to open Ark? there's a right-click menu to "Extract Here:
[07:29] <Xanith> like i just said... it's not there
[07:29] <pierreth> warpzone: it gives the output as first argument
[07:30] <warpzone> pierreth: and it will repeat the command for each line of output?
[07:30] <pierreth> warpzone: put it will not work
[07:30] <Jucato> Xanith: right-Click > Extract > Extract Here is missing?
[07:30] <warpzone> pierreth: oh :(((
[07:30] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:30] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:30] <Xanith> yea its not there at all
[07:30] <pierreth> warpzone: sorry, i have to think again
[07:30] <Jucato> hm... that's strange
[07:31] <warpzone> pierreth: no prob, still handy to know though, thanks
[07:32] <spaci76> moin@ll
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> I download Player but I dont instal
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> wow
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> plz help for Linux?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> you really expect help now?
[07:32] <Papandapulo_> plz
[07:33] <Jucato> !ask
[07:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:33] <pierreth> warpzone: do you have spaces in your files?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> #1 you dident ask a real question., so no one knows what you are talking about.. and i imagine MOST people have you on IGNORE now.
[07:33] <Kiongku> !spam
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Kiongku> xD
[07:33] <royal> !Winning at life
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Winning at life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <osiris> knock it off
[07:33] <royal> now THERES a funny one for you
[07:34] <pierreth> warpzone: ?
[07:34] <Kiongku> hmm.
[07:34] <warpzone> pierreth: oh no this wasn't for me, I'm just curious to see if it can be done
[07:34] <plugs> what's the difference between flashplugin-nonfree and libflash-mozplugin?
[07:34] <pierreth> warpzone: do you have spaces in the names of the files?
[07:35] <warpzone> pierreth: nah
[07:35] <Jucato> plugs: libflash-mozplugin doesn't work anymore, afaik
[07:36] <pierreth> warpzone: ls | grep .gz xargs -d \  tar xvfz
[07:36] <pierreth> warpzone: i am not sure
[07:38] <warpzone> pierreth: its cool, I will experiement around with the command and see what happens
[07:38] <Lamington|away> gtg later all
[07:38] <osiris> can someone point me to a fstab primer ? i need to add a fat32 partition with read/write to it
[07:38] <pierreth> warpzone: I see an error again :-(
[07:38] <Lamington|away> ooh is anyone interested in E17 ? I have sources here :D
[07:38] <osiris> im running E17 now
[07:39] <Lamington|away> nice :)
[07:39] <osiris> from cvs
[07:39] <warpzone> osiris: um, the unofficial starter guide has instructions to mounting a fat32 partition
[07:39] <nalioth> you guys should ask users what language they speak, and guide them to the appropriate #ubuntu-[language]  channel
[07:39] <warpzone> osiris: i dont know about any of the official web pages
[07:39] <Lamington|away> I've got sources you can add to your sources.list
[07:39] <osiris> Lamington|away, nope.  im cvs
[07:39] <plugs> what's the current flashplugin version and how do i get the current version?
[07:40] <pierreth> warpzone: ls | xargs -d \  echo | grep .gz | tar xvfz
[07:40] <Lamington|away> osiris: I know, it was a general comment
[07:40] <Jucato> nalioth: huh?
[07:40] <Lamington|away> gtg
[07:40] <warpzone> plugs: i would check the ubuntu wiki under restricted formats, it has the instructions for installing as well as enabling sound
[07:40] <warpzone> plugs: I can link you if you'd like
[07:40] <plugs> warpzone please do =] 
[07:40] <Jucato> !flashplugin-nonfree
[07:40] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:41] <Jucato> !flash
[07:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:41] <pierreth> warpzone: I think the last one is OK
[07:41] <DHGE> anyone force-installed flash on amd64? acroreader works for me ...
[07:41] <warpzone> plugs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:42] <warpzone> pierreth: thanks! I'm going to sit down and study that command :-P
[07:43] <pierreth> warpzone: you should read about shell programming
[07:44] <warpzone> pierreth: I started doing that yesterday :-P any recommended sites?
[07:44] <pierreth> warpzone: I really like this one: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[07:46] <warpzone> pierreth: thanks a bunch man
[07:46] <Jucato> grr.. thunder/lightning..
[07:46] <Jucato> have to switch off..
[07:46] <Jucato> :(
[07:46] <pierreth> warpzone: no prob
[07:47] <pierreth> so I can I delete the database?
[07:47] <pierreth> so how can I delete the database?
[07:48] <warpzone> pierreth: thats beyond me :(
[07:51] <plugs> so is there a way to view a website that requires flash 8?
[07:52] <beermunk> so why can I setup pptp vpn to my work and lose my internet, not be able to ping anything on the vpn but not lose connection on irc?  weird?
[07:52] <noiesmo> plugs, I installed firefox for windows using wine and then added flash
[07:52] <warpzone> plugs: not any standard way, nope. but flash9-beta for linux should be out very soon
[07:53] <warpzone> or yeah, the ff + wine thing
[07:53] <noiesmo> warpzone, anyidea when its due
[07:53] <plugs> windows firefox works with wine though? okay
[07:53] <plugs> i'll try that out
[07:53] <warpzone> noiesmo: not a clue. very soon though, i know some people already have it working, just not the layman
[07:54] <noiesmo> warpzone, cool
[07:54] <noiesmo> plugs, yeah no hassles
[07:54] <noiesmo> plugs, install firefox then go to site that needs flash and install that way
[07:55] <noiesmo> plugs, i do find a bit of lag in the flash but a mate say similar to windows
[07:55] <plugs> okay good plan. i'll try in a minute
[08:01] <Ashex> for those that don't read digg: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=174
[08:04] <warpzone> haha awesome
[08:11] <Samuli^> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2915
[08:11] <Samuli^> lol
[08:12] <Samuli^> the linux-video looks like someone with adhd made it :D
[08:18] <plugs> I just installed firefox in wine, how do i run it?
[08:20] <MuJ> firefox in wine.. winefox? =P
[08:20] <noiesmo> plugs, try wine "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
[08:20] <noiesmo> plugs, i have a desktop shortcut it also list a working director as "/home/noiesmo/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Mozilla Firefox"
[08:23] <noiesmo> plugs, mine put short cut on desktop and entry in menu with wine programs etc
[08:24] <plugs> right, that'll probly happen on restart
[08:24] <serishema> when trying to set up nfs file sharing i can't share or mount anything on one machine and the problem seems to be nfs statd failing to start
[08:24] <serishema> any ideas?
[08:36] <nagyv> hello! I would like to watch some videos from the net, but kaffeine always says that it "could not load any sound drivers" (or something similar). Before it worked well, I don't know what happened.
[09:06] <zezelle> bonjour
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, sup
[09:07] <zezelle> ok salut
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !fr
[09:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> je parle un peux de franncaise mais je vais sortir pour un peut
[09:11] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  comment
[09:11] <zezelle> je besoir d-aide
[09:12] <fdoving> !info hwdb-client-kde
[09:12] <ubotu> Package hwdb-client-kde does not exist in any distro I know
[09:13] <fdoving> !info hwdb-client-kde edgy
[09:13] <ubotu> hwdb-client-kde: KDE client program for the Ubuntu Hardware Database. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 304 kB, installed size 464 kB
[09:13] <fdoving> !info hwdb-client-gnome
[09:13] <ubotu> Package hwdb-client-gnome does not exist in any distro I know
[09:14] <zezelle> zerofool2005:  salut
[09:14] <zerofool2005> hello
[09:15] <zezelle> zerofool2005:  you french
[09:15] <zerofool2005> English
[09:15] <zezelle> ok sir
[09:15] <zezelle> me name is claude
[09:16] <zerofool2005> Hi claude
[09:16] <zezelle> Ze Iam fench
[09:16] <zezelle> zerofool2005:  Iam french
[09:16] <zerofool2005> cool
[09:17] <zerofool2005> Used to do french in school
[09:17] <zezelle> you ave linux
[09:17] <zezelle> ree
[09:17] <zezelle> have
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, PM me
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, tu me peux parle en #ubuntu-chicago s'il te plait
[09:18] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  quoi
[09:19] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  you french
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> donne moi 20 minutes
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, non, mais je l'etudies en lycee
[09:19] <zezelle> Admiral_Chicago:  ok
[09:20] <zerofool2005> Better go get changed for school
[09:21] <zezelle> zerofool2005|a:  ok good working
[09:22] <zerofool2005|a> Does kubuntu have a rar extractor?
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> zerofool2005|a, yes unrar-nonfree
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[09:22] <zezelle> zerofool2005|a:  you come  leter
[09:23] <zerofool2005|a> yup
[09:25] <plugs> Does any version of MSN Messenger work in wine?
[09:30] <Netslayer> plugs, use gaim/kopete/gnome equiv ... dunno about wine with msn
[09:31] <plugs> yeah i use kopete
[09:32] <Steven_M> where are the kdm session types stored?
[09:33] <zezelle> Steven_M: salut
[09:40] <ben__> anyone here use opera?
[09:41] <pierreth> ben__: i used it
[09:41] <ben__> i need some help with networking, i can't load any internet pages in opera, its acting like its offline
[09:42] <ben__> i think its a problem with kubuntu not opera, although konqueror works fine
[09:42] <pierreth> does another browser works
[09:42] <pierreth> ok
[09:42] <harry> hi everybody,    a question: how can i generate some free space in my hd?   when i update my OS; the installation files are keeped? or erased after installation??
[09:42] <harry> with adept updater...
[09:43] <pierreth> harry: use du
[09:43] <harry> #pierreth, i have no idea, its my first day in linux...
[09:44] <ben__> pierreth: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=158776
[09:44] <pierreth> ben__: i think there is a switch to pass from offline to on line in Opera
[09:44] <pierreth> harry: do you know how to use the command line
[09:44] <ben__> hmmm never seen it in the windows version nor the mac one
[09:44] <harry> #pierreth, more less
[09:45] <harry> #pierreth, i've been reading all day
[09:45] <Infecto> hmmm
[09:45] <pierreth> type du in the command line
[09:45] <pierreth> harry
[09:46] <harry> #pierreth, it would be something like  >sudo du   ??
[09:46] <Infecto> no need sudo
[09:46] <harry> #Infecto, thanks   let me try
[09:46] <pierreth> harry: du is enough
[09:47] <pierreth> ben__: I don't know
[09:47] <sorush20> hi should I do dist-upgrade first or upgrade?
[09:47] <pierreth> ben__: start opera from the command line
[09:47] <harry> #pierreth, wow that help was fast, i thoght i would be here for some hours
[09:47] <ben__> ok i couldnt find any offline/online switch in opera, are you confusing it with another web browser/file browser
[09:47] <harry> thanks to all
[09:48] <sorush20> hi should I do dist-upgrade first or upgrade?
[09:48] <fdoving> sorush20: update first, then upgrade or dist-upgrade
[09:48] <sorush20> but when you do the upgrade ubuntu says reboot..
[09:48] <pierreth> harry: you understand what du does?
[09:48] <pierreth> ben__: may be...
[09:49] <harry> #pierreth, erase installation files of the updateing service??  that's what i read about it...
[09:49] <fdoving> harry: update-files are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you can remove them with 'sudo apt-get clean' from the commandline.
[09:50] <harry> so what does du makes?
[09:50] <pierreth> harry: it is disk usage, it helps find big folders
[09:50] <ben__> so how would i start opera from the command line?
[09:50] <fdoving> du only tells you how much space a certain directory/file occupies.
[09:51] <fdoving> ben__: 'opera'
[09:51] <pierreth> ben__: opera
[09:51] <ben__> ;) ok
[09:51] <pierreth> lol
[09:51] <harry> :) thanks
[09:52] <ben__> some errors came up
[09:52] <ben__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:52] <ben__>   Major opcode:  144
[09:52] <ben__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:52] <ben__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:52] <ben__> Failed to open device
[09:52] <pierreth> ben__: it is OK
[09:52] <pierreth> ben__: normal errors
[09:52] <ben__> and this one
[09:52] <ben__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:52] <ben__>   Major opcode:  144
[09:52] <ben__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:52] <ben__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:52] <ben__> Failed to open device
[09:52] <ben__> shit sorry
[09:52] <ben__> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[09:52] <pierreth> ben__: it still normal
[09:53] <pierreth> ben__: OK, this is may the problem
[09:53] <ben__> it needs a package?
[09:54] <pierreth> ben__: I don't know, make a search for ld.so in your installer
[09:56] <sorush20> anyone here tried kde4?
[09:57] <fdoving> it's not ready for end-users yet. :
[09:57] <sorush20> well that i was I was asking about..
[09:58] <sorush20> If it was I would have tried it already.. but have you tried it as a developer etc?
[09:58] <fdoving> no.
[10:01] <sorush20> when edgy comes out in october will dapper be obsolete ?
[10:02] <ben__> i hope they mave xgl with it
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> zezelle, still around?
[10:02] <DHGE> !LTS
[10:02] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:03] <DHGE> ben__: Do you use amd64?
[10:04] <ben__> yea
[10:05] <ben__> but i am on 32bit kubuntu
[10:05] <Steven_M> zezelle: what do you mean by salut?
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Steven_M, thats french...
[10:07] <ben__> like i always do, i end up going back to windows because i can;t get anything to work without command line/downloading more shit
[10:07] <ben__> so bye
[10:07] <Steven_M> Admiral_Chicago: meaning?
[10:10] <Steven_M> where are the kdm session types stored in kubuntu?
[10:10] <noiesmo> /usr/share/xsessions
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[10:12] <Steven_M> thanks noiesmo :)
[10:12] <noiesmo> Steven_M, np :)
[10:14] <Steven_M> is there any problem i can help you out with in return noiesmo?
[10:14] <noiesmo> Steven_M, just chillin
[10:14] <Steven_M> ok
[10:15] <thomas___> I keep getting this error on upgrading to edgy:
[10:15] <thomas___> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc', which is also in package gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[10:15] <thomas___> what's the dealio?
[10:15] <noiesmo> you'll need to set an override
[10:16] <thomas___> how?
[10:18] <noiesmo> not 100% but like sudo dpkg-divert --package packagename --divert /usr/share/themes/Clealooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc --rename /usr/share/themes/Clealooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.old
[10:18] <thomas___> :(
[10:18] <noiesmo> thomas__, its not 100% right
[10:19] <thomas___> is this wiki'd anywhere or forum'd anywhere you know of off the top of your head? I already poked around and couldn't find anything
[10:20] <noiesmo> thomas__, not that im sure off otherwise try remove gtk2-engines-clearlooks and then reinstall after adding your package
[10:21] <Hobbsee> noiesmo: usually sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/of/deb/deb.deb
[10:22] <noiesmo> Hobbsee, cool I didnt know that thought the dpkg-divert may have helped as no one else said anything
[10:22] <Hobbsee> it's cool
[10:22] <Hobbsee> just be careful with it :P
[10:23] <thomas___> :(
[10:23] <noiesmo> Hobbsee, maybe you can help thomas__ with his problem
[10:23] <noiesmo> :)
[10:24] <thomas___> In case you didn't catch it before, Hobbsee:
[10:24] <thomas___> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines_1%3a2.8.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:24] <thomas___>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc', which is also in package gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[10:24] <thomas___> urg, didn't know that would've overpasted
[10:24] <thomas___> sorry
[10:25] <Hobbsee> it's cool
[10:25] <maltron> Hi, I just installed amarok 1.43 (having added it to my apt sources list).  To do so I had to enble backports and now adept keeps asking me if I want to upgrad checkinstall.  My question is, if this is necessary, why isn't it automatic, and if not, what disadvantages does it bring?
[10:26] <maltron> One way or another I'd like to get rid of the notification!
[10:26] <thomas___> and I can't uninstall gtk2-engines-clearlooks cuz then it complains about dependancies as well
[10:26] <Hobbsee> use sudo apt-get remove --purge gtk2-engines-clearlooks then update again
[10:26] <douglas> hello, when my wife signs onto kde here space bar does not work. It works fine when I sign into my kde. What could be up??
[10:26] <Hobbsee> gtk2-engines-clearlooks doesnt exist in edgy
[10:27] <thomas___> it says taht gnome-themes and ubuntu-desktop have unmet dependencies
[10:27] <thomas___> should I ignore that?
[10:27] <Hobbsee> maltron: it may need to grab extra package
[10:27] <Hobbsee> thomas___: yeah, just for the minute.
[10:27] <Hobbsee> !info gtk2-engines-clearlooks edgy
[10:27] <ubotu> gtk2-engines-clearlooks: Clearlooks GTK+ 2.x engine and theme (dummy package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:28] <Hobbsee> !info gtk2-engines edgy
[10:28] <ubotu> gtk2-engines: theme engines for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 828 kB
[10:28] <maltron> Hobbsee: yeah, I'd say so, but I'm a little uncomfortable installing it if it isn't automatic - is it likely to be buggy or untested... why not just install itself if it's needed?
[10:29] <thomas___> Hobbsee: :( same problem
[10:29] <Hobbsee> maltron: should be okay
[10:29] <Hobbsee> thomas___: you couldnt use sudo apt-get remove gtk2-engines-clearlooks?
[10:29] <douglas> any ideas aout the making the keyboard work?
[10:29] <maltron> Hobbsee: thanks - I'll go ahead with it.  Are there generally any disadvantages from enabling backports?
[10:30] <Jucato> maltron: it would actually be scarier if stuff were installed/upgraded without your knowledge right? :)
[10:30] <Hobbsee> maltron: not really - the quality is the same as universe stuff
[10:30] <thomas___> nope, talks about how gnome-themes and ubuntu-desktop depends on  a few things
[10:30] <thomas___> gtk2-engines, gnome-orca, linux-headers
[10:30] <Jucato> hm.. disadvantages from backports... there's one. you get more choices :P
[10:30] <Nickay> hi
[10:30] <Hobbsee> thomas___: ignore them for a bit - remove the gtk2-engines-clearlooks first
[10:30] <Nickay> hi
[10:30] <thomas___> heh, that's what happens when I try to remove
[10:30] <douglas> hello, when my wife signs onto kde here space bar does not work. It works fine when I sign into my kde. What could be up??
[10:30] <Hobbsee> thomas___: after doing that, install ubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <Hobbsee> douglas: try moving her .kde/ and see if that changes anything?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> hi Nickay
[10:32] <maltron> Hobbsee: yeah, but normally I click on fetch updates and it says status: upgradable; requested: upgrade"  This is the only package which actually needs me to change "no change" to "upgrade" before clicking "apply updates"
[10:32] <Nickay> I would like to ask if there is lotus notes for Kubuntu?
[10:32] <thomas___> I do believe novell recently released lotus notes for linux
[10:32] <Hobbsee> maltron: weird.  it should be okay
[10:33] <maltron> hobbsee: okay, I'm just paranoid I'm breaking my system.  It requires so much effort to recover when I do something really stupid sometimes it's better to reinstall from scratch!
[10:33] <zezelle> thomas__:  salut ca va
[10:33] <Hobbsee> maltron: heh.  it *should* be okay
[10:33] <Nickay> Thomas__: So there isn't for kubuntu?
[10:34] <maltron> Hobbsee: um, er, thanks!
[10:34] <zezelle>  you inglish
[10:34] <thomas___> Nickay: Well, kubuntu is linux. There isn't a package specifically for kubuntu that I know of, however
[10:34] <thomas___> zezelle: American, VERY little french
[10:34] <thomas___> n'est ca va pas
[10:34] <thomas___> or someting
[10:34] <zezelle> th ok sir welcome to me sir
[10:35] <Nickay> thanks thomas__
[10:35] <thomas___> Nickay: sure, if you poke around novel's website or google it I think it might pop up. Oh, actually it may be IBM
[10:35] <zezelle> th thaks you sir
[10:35] <thomas___> anyways, It's out ther
[10:35] <thomas___> there*
[10:35] <Infecto> mplayer: symbol lookup error: mplayer: undefined symbol: a52_resample
[10:35] <Infecto> hello
[10:36] <thomas___> Hobbsee: So, nothin', eh?
[10:36] <zezelle> Infecto:  hello sir
[10:36] <Infecto> ;] 
[10:36] <MDCore> Hey all. I'm trying to switch from XP to Ubuntu and trying to keep my firefox profile: how do I get my profile across successfully ?
[10:36] <Hobbsee> thomas___: i wonder.  try sudo apt-get remove --purge gtk2-engines-clearlooks gtk2-engines && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:37] <Hobbsee> thomas___: if you can pastebin that, and all that it outputs, that'd be useful
[10:37] <Jucato> does anyone know which package installs the HTML/PHP/docbook/css contents for Quanta's Documentation tab?
[10:37] <berkes> morning.
[10:38] <berkes> i've been usnig my ATI card for ages now, previous, on mandrake (it was called that, back then) I had no probs with GL / 3D,
[10:38] <berkes> but ever since I switched to (k)ubuntu it fails to run properly.
[10:38] <berkes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto tells me that I should not bother,
[10:39] <berkes> The model number for your Radeon card is 8500 or above ....
[10:39] <thomas___> Hobbsee: http://paste.uni.cc/10202
[10:39] <berkes> mine is 7000. So any hints?
[10:40] <Hobbsee> thomas___: want to pastebin apt-get -f install?
[10:40] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure it'll do much though
[10:41] <thomas___> Hobsee: http://paste.uni.cc/10203
[10:43] <douglas> Hobbsee renaming .kde worked. So now how to I fix it without loosing all her other settings?
[10:43] <zezelle> oui
[10:43] <zezelle> salut reee
[10:43] <DeadS0ul> any of you tried out krash yet?
[10:43] <Hobbsee> douglas: trial and error - put some of the files back in, see if you have a problem, etc
[10:44] <douglas> thanks
[10:44] <Hobbsee> thomas___: grr.  so it is a packaging error.
[10:44] <Hobbsee> thomas___: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines_1%3a2.8.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[10:45] <thomas___> alright, now throw down with a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:46] <Hobbsee> thomas___: yep
[10:46] <thomas___> Hobbsee: pure unfettered genius. You rock
[10:46] <Hobbsee> thomas___: i'm about to fix said bug anyway :)
[10:47] <Hobbsee> i hope
[10:47] <thomas___> Oh, didn't know you were a dev
[10:47] <thomas___> respect
[10:47] <ajmitch> not just 'a' dev
[10:50] <Lynoure> the dev? =)
[10:51] <Jucato> the DEVil... :P
[10:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:52] <Hobbsee> oh you painful package.
[10:52] <thomas___> heh, that's what she... said..
[10:53] <Jucato> Hobbsee: --divert all your anger and frustrations on that package. sudo make mince meat out of it :P
[10:53] <Jucato> er.. I'm not supposed to run "make" w/ "sudo"...  :(
[10:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:54] <llxcamxll> so whats this full upgrade gonna do for me
[10:56] <Hobbsee> bug 59969
[10:56] <Jucato> hmm... Ubugtu??
[10:57] <llxcamxll> !fullupgrade
[10:57] <Jucato> rawr...
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fullupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <Hobbsee> obviously that plugin isnt on in here
[10:57] <abattoir> llxcamxll: 'Full Upgrade' where? in adept?
[10:57] <Jucato> Hobbsee: then why do we have Ubugtu here?
[10:57] <abattoir> @time UTC
[10:57] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: September 19 2006, 08:57:57
[10:58] <abattoir> Jucato: for that :P
[10:58] <Jucato> abattoir: aaah that one...
[10:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: for other things....
[10:58] <abattoir> hehe, just kidding
[10:58] <Hobbsee> oh that sucks.  mvo didtn fix the package hard enough
[10:58] <Hobbsee> oh, wait
[10:58] <Hobbsee> thomas___: can you run apt-cache policy gtk2-engines please?
[10:59] <llxcamxll> yeah in adept man
[10:59] <zezelle> Unknownkm
[10:59] <Hobbsee> thomas___: gah.  known bug, fix is getting built.
[10:59] <Jucato> Hobbsee: which gtk2-engine?
[10:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: the one that replaces all of them
[11:00] <thomas___> Hobbsee: that's cool. In fact, I may have ran into another
[11:00] <thomas___> but I ran a sudo apt-get install -f and things seem to be running again
[11:00] <Jucato> llxcamxll: Full Upgrade in Adept = apt-get dist-upgrade; meaning it updates/installs stuff but might also remove packages when necessary
[11:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh... that on Edgy?
[11:00] <llxcamxll> k
[11:00] <Hobbsee> yes
[11:00] <Jucato> aaaah oooh
[11:00] <Hobbsee> gtk2-engines (1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2) edgy; urgency=low
[11:00] <Hobbsee>   * updated Conflicts/Replaces to match reality (lp: #59969)
[11:00] <Hobbsee>  -- Michael Vogt <michael.vogt@ubuntu.com>  Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:29:18 +0200
[11:00] <Hobbsee> it should be there
[11:01] <Jucato> "to match reality"???
[11:01] <Hobbsee> oh, wait, i'ts not even in the archive yet, apparently
[11:01] <Hobbsee> but the source is here
[11:01] <Hobbsee> say what?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: heh, yes.  codename for "i screwed it up"
[11:01] <Jucato> lol
[11:02] <Hobbsee> something's screwed up badly here
[11:02] <zezelle> ree
[11:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:03] <Hobbsee> he fixed it again
[11:04] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I guess you'd notice by now that very few people here actually understand what you're saying/trying to do :P
[11:04] <Hobbsee> right
[11:04] <Hobbsee> i've FOUND THE SOLUTION!
[11:04] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: yes, solution is, turn off capslock ;)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> @lart Tm_T
[11:05] <Jucato> lol
[11:05] <Jucato> hah!
[11:05] <Fade> 'morning
[11:05] <Jucato> he is soooo going to be puzzled :)
[11:07] <thomas___> man this is taking forever
[11:07] <thomas___> crazy
[11:07] <zezelle> crazy no sir
[11:07] <Fade> in the continuing saga of xemacs, it's still bjorked.
[11:07] <Hobbsee> thomas___: indeed.
[11:07] <Jucato> wb Tm_T :)
[11:07] <zezelle> Fade: hello
[11:07] <Fade> hello
[11:08] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you want the translation?  see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gtk2-engines/1:2.8.0-0ubuntu3 and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gtk2-engines/+changelog
[11:08] <michael159> hi, i'm a kubuntu newbie and just trying out the dapper live cd with my amd64x2 (3800+) processor. unfortunately "cat /proc/cpuinfo" says only 1000 MHz per core instead of the expected 2000
[11:08] <michael159> can anybodz help?
[11:08] <thomas___> michael159: cpu scaling
[11:09] <thomas___> michael159: I gotta 1.6Ghz that scales down to 800 when it's not busy
[11:10] <michael159> hm, thomas___ . i made a quick performance check with the distributed.net client (64-bit version) and its only half as fast as the 32-bit version under win2k :/
[11:10] <thomas___> heh, I got nothin' else for ya then :D
[11:11] <michael159> okay, thanks anyway :)
[11:14] <harry> hey, is there an equivalent package for libxineextracodecs in breezy badger??
[11:14] <Jucato> harry: afaik, no :(
[11:14] <abattoir> harry: you want mp3 support in amarok?
[11:15] <harry> #abattoir, yeap
[11:15] <abattoir> harry: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[11:15] <harry> #abattoir, and divx, and all that stuff
[11:16] <abattoir> harry: in kaffeine? try installing the appropriate gstreamer plugin
[11:16] <abattoir> *name
[11:16] <thomas___> Hobbsee: Looks like we're in the clear. Gonna give'r a reboot. See if she holds up
[11:16] <Hobbsee> thomas___: nice :)
[11:16] <thomas___> thanks for your help, I really appreciate it
[11:17] <abattoir> harry: search for gstreamer(or just gst) in adept, and look at the descriptions, and install the package that you need.
[11:17] <Jucato> abattoir: btw, the RestrictedFormats page do have instructions for Kubuntu Breezy
[11:17] <harry> ok ok   thanks guys  let me take a look around
[11:21] <Jucato> Kubuntu Edgy Knot 3 shots (features new USplash, Login Screen, KSplash, and new color scheme): http://jucato.multiply.com/photos/album/24
[11:33] <rockprincess> hi
[11:35] <rockprincess> does anyone know if there are any viruses for kubuntu?
[11:38] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: not really
[11:38] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: google for linux viruses
[11:38] <rockprincess> JohnFlux: I did...and it said "No viruses for Ubuntu"...
[11:39] <rockprincess> i just wanted to make sure that i'm on the safe side :D
[11:39] <MDCore> Kubuntu == Ubuntu + a K... I mean Ubuntu + KDE
[11:39] <rockprincess> that's why I moved from windows to kubuntu....
[11:39] <rockprincess> MDCore: yeah I know ;)
[11:40] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: i said linux, not ubuntu :P
[11:41] <rockprincess> Is it adviseable though to have an Anti-Virus software?
[11:42] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: i don't think many people do
[11:44] <MDCore> linux/unix is less susceptible to viruses for a few reasons:
[11:44] <MDCore> 1 - most people don't run as root ala windows
[11:44] <MDCore> 2 - it's not nearly as popular as windows
[11:45] <rockprincess> MDCore: true, I understand your reasons......
[11:46] <MDCore> To properly answer your question though... (sorry)
[11:46] <MDCore> Rather have increased security than less.
[11:56] <paul____> I've been (trying) to use kmail and kontact for the last few weeks, but I'm having problems
[11:56] <paul____> I'm using an IMAPS server
[11:56] <paul____> and it seems that there could be problems
[11:57] <paul____> anyone got any hints/suggestions?
[11:59] <rockprincess> what are the problems? maybe I can help?
[12:01] <paul____> sorry - was on phone
[12:01] <paul____> right - issues are that sometimes it will not startup at all
[12:01] <paul____> you have to go kill all the imap connections
[12:01] <paul____> and then restart
[12:01] <paul____> and then after use for a few minutes
[12:02] <paul____> it goes and dies on me - it hangs on a connection
[12:02] <paul____> doesn't happen on POP3, just IMAp
[12:02] <rockprincess> maybe it's your Imap server?
[12:02] <paul____> nope - been using it for 2 years with various other clients
[12:02] <paul____> been using kmail for a few weeks
[12:02] <paul____> no problems with other clients
[12:03] <paul____> any ideas?
[12:05] <rockprincess> hmm i see
[12:05] <rockprincess> no ideas, mate...sorry!
[12:06] <paul____> ok thx
[12:06] <paul____> I'm really stuck on this one because kmail has egroupware support
[12:07] <paul____> sorry - kontact does
[12:07] <paul____> and it would be really helpful for it to work properly (without needing to be restarted every few minutes) with imap
[12:14] <fat_basterd21> what up ppls
[12:15] <fat_basterd21> can you put kubuntu on a usb hdd
[12:16] <copter> it was easy to done on Hoary so probably it is still possible on Dapper
[12:16] <fat_basterd21> IS ANY1 LISTENING
[12:17] <fat_basterd21> WHA
[12:17] <fat_basterd21> t
[12:24] <kubuntu501> osten
[12:24] <wiesel> sueden
[12:24] <osten> Hey
[12:25] <kubuntu501> heey
[12:38] <lecci> hi
[12:38] <mad_man> No excellent soul is exempt from a mixture of madness
[12:39] <lecci> i wont install coWPAtty and i istall openssl but make an error... someone can help me?
[12:40] <mad_man> A good supervisor can step on your toes without messing up your shine
[12:41] <mad_man> f u cn rd ths, u r prbbly a lsy spllr
[12:42] <Jucato> mad_man: please try not to spam the channel. thanks
[12:42] <mad_man> not spam just fun
[12:43] <Jucato> just try not to over do it :)
[12:44] <mad_man> no one was talking just throing some tid-bits out there :-)
 f u cn rd ths, u r prbbly a lsy spllr <--- tell that to Motorola :P
[12:44] <mad_man> lol
[12:47] <mad_man> Jucato: me is older person, late start, here spam comes in a can. is there channels where it's just open talking ?
[12:47] <Jucato> mad_man: something like #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:48] <Jucato> spam is too salty :P
[01:12] <CroX> I really cannot get the "third level" characters of my keyboard to work.. Anyone care to help me out?
[01:12] <CroX> ALT+<number> just acts as macros. Like, in Konversation, it switches tabs.
[01:13] <CroX> And coding PHP without is dollar sign is hard, to say the least. :P
[01:18] <Zakalwe_> I'm getting this error today on an apt-get dist-upgrade -u on Edgy.   Setting up kdelibs-data (3.5.4-0ubuntu14) ... Failed to write hash table
[01:18] <Zakalwe_> Any Ideas?
[01:27] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[01:42] <jihi_labtop> so ^
[01:42] <SillyZ> mm good morning
[01:43] <CroX> !ati
[01:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:45] <SillyZ> ubotu: I have a ATI 9200, installed Kubuntu on it, and it configured everything correctly on a default installation
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I have a ATI 9200, installed Kubuntu on it, and it configured everything correctly on a default installation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <SillyZ> ah ubotu is a bot... heheheh
[01:56] <_powermac> sorry, no idea.
[01:56] <Skrot> Anyone now how to get video (with xv) on multiple monitors at the same time (running dual head clone view mode)?
[01:56] <_powermac> i still have a problem with perl/TK
[01:57] <_powermac> wow, sounds too complicated for me!
[01:57] <_powermac> any perl/TK experts?
[01:58] <octan> how do i grab a file with wget ?
[01:58] <octan> wget -r url/filename ?
[02:03] <_powermac> ok, anyone ever install Mapivi?
[02:03] <gupta> I can't play this video: http://www.plasticlogic.com/downloads/800x600%20A5%20100ppi.wmv - w32codecs are installed.
[02:03] <gupta> btw thats a pretty nice eink vidoe ;)
[02:04] <abattoir> gupta: plays for me
[02:05] <_powermac> what program do you use?
[02:05] <gupta> mplayer
[02:05] <abattoir> kaffeine?
[02:05] <gupta> ok I'll try with kaffeine
[02:05] <gupta> how's the video btw :D
[02:05] <_powermac> isn;t there a real player for linux?
[02:05] <_powermac> helix player?
[02:05] <octan> how do i set up a crond job at 6pm ?
[02:05] <abattoir> gupta: its 11 sec. ?
[02:06] <_powermac> i think there is a GUI control panerl for chron too
[02:07] <gupta> octan: try kcron
[02:07] <octan> no.. i need a cli command
[02:07] <_powermac> ah
[02:11] <crexpo_> espaol?
[02:11] <abattoir> !es
[02:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:11] <abattoir> crexpo_: ^^^
[02:11] <crexpo_> ok sir
[02:12] <ootput> hi guys, is there a way to change themes/colorschemes for kde apps when not running in a kde-environment?
[02:12] <ootput> say, from ubuntu?
[02:13] <gupta> kcontrol?
[02:13] <ootput> also, i'm interested in changing the iconset to the tango set on kde-look
[02:13] <abattoir> ootput: you can manually replace the files...
[02:13] <ootput> abattoir: there's no way to view and select themes?
[02:13] <nictsa> hi to all , any help with knetworkmanager?
[02:13] <abattoir> ootput: but i think it wont be easy
[02:13] <ootput> gupta: i don't have kde-desktop (or whatever the name of the meta-package is)
[02:14] <ootput> mayank?
[02:14] <abattoir> ootput: i'm not aware of one... other than installing kcontrol(which pulls down almost all of kde)
[02:14] <frojnd> When I try to install macromedia flashplayer it announce an error: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Can someone help me install this plugin
[02:14] <abattoir> frojnd: are you on an amd 64 machine w/ an amd64 install of kubuntu?
[02:14] <ootput> frojnd: have you had any luck with a chroot install?
[02:14] <frojnd> yjes
[02:14] <frojnd> amd 64
[02:14] <frojnd> kubuntu
[02:15] <NeoSaki> frojnd: get a 32-bit version of Firefox
[02:15] <frojnd> hm
[02:15] <abattoir> frojnd: well, then there is no Adobe Flash for 64-bit
[02:15] <frojnd> aha
[02:15] <NeoSaki> abattoir: i use flash
[02:15] <abattoir> frojnd: either do as NeoSaki says, or setup a chroot...
[02:15] <frojnd> how can I install 32-bit version for mozilla
[02:16] <NeoSaki> frojnd: do you specifically want mozilla or just firefox
[02:16] <abattoir> NeoSaki: well, there is no Adobe Flash for 64-bit, i guess you are using a 32-bit plugin :)
[02:16] <frojnd> firefox
[02:16] <NeoSaki> and either way, adept/synaptic should have it
[02:16] <CroX> !pastebin
[02:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:16] <frojnd> NeoSaki adept/synaptec is a directory?
[02:17] <frojnd> I am asking if there is a way to install 32-bit throuh apt
[02:17] <NeoSaki> frojnd: adept and synaptic are a gui for apt-get
[02:17] <frojnd> aha
[02:17] <tekeo___> !mp3 tekeo___
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 tekeo___ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <frojnd> and I am searching for synaptec?
[02:18] <abattoir> !mp3 > tekeo___
[02:18] <NeoSaki> frojnd: k-menu -> system -> adept
[02:18] <NeoSaki> and search for firefox
[02:19] <SillyZ> q: whats one of the 'better' mp3 players for linux beyond xmms? need graphic eq functions and hopefully something that has some audio enhancement capabilities
[02:19] <SillyZ> running kubuntu of course
[02:20] <abattoir> SillyZ: amarok..?
[02:20] <abattoir> !amarok
[02:20] <NeoSaki> SillyZ: amaroK
[02:20] <Martijn81> I have a stupid question, sort of.... kmail lists an email in the send folder with sender as my main account while i've send it with my second. Isn't this strange?
[02:20] <abattoir> SillyZ: its already installed Kmenu->Multimedia->Amarok
[02:20] <SillyZ> amarok... ok ill give it a shot
[02:20] <NeoSaki> hey Jucato
[02:21] <Jucato> hi :)
[02:21] <abattoir> SillyZ: you might want to upgrade to the latest version though
[02:22] <SillyZ> hmmm dosent have the 'crunch' that xmms has.... seems a bit 'toned' down ( yes Ive set the eq )
[02:23] <SillyZ> hmmm if i crank everything to max audio, system audio and audio levels in amarok, now i can almost get the volume level i like
[02:24] <SillyZ> it is much nicer than xmms tho ill say that
[02:26] <frojnd> I've installed firefox with adept; where is now firefox ?
[02:27] <NeoSaki> kmenu -> internet -> firefox
[02:27] <NeoSaki> then just get the firefox plugin for Flash
[02:27] <frojnd> NeoSaki, I've allready cheked there but it's not there :S
[02:28] <frojnd> I got the same problem with kmplayer
[02:28] <NeoSaki> frojnd: whatchu mean?
[02:28] <frojnd> whe I go to Kmenu ->internet there is no firefox icon :S
[02:28] <Jucato> frojnd: type this in Konsole to update the K Menu: kbuildsycoca --incremental (ignore the error messages) then check your menu again
[02:29] <Jucato> frojnd: btw, Ubuntu doesn't use the official Firefox icon. it's a customized icon
[02:29] <frojnd> Jucato tnx ;)
[02:29] <frojnd> where did u pick that command
[02:29] <Jucato> frojnd: from someone else :)
[02:30] <frojnd> :)
[02:30] <frojnd> linp2linp
[02:30] <SillyZ> now there was one application under g-ubuntu that I noticed was prebuilt, but under k-ubuntu, it does not seem to be available.... is there anyway of manually installing this package???
[02:31] <Jucato> SillyZ: what app is that?
[02:31] <benji> man...I am ready to break something...oh wait it's already broke...
[02:31] <SillyZ> antennavis
[02:31] <benji> I can't access anything from my source.list from apt-get or adept
[02:32] <benji> again
[02:32] <benji> I have tried everything
[02:32] <xwolf-> SillyZ go to adept and look for the package.
[02:32] <Jucato> SillyZ: it's in the repositories
[02:32] <Jucato> !antennavis
[02:32] <ubotu> antennavis: antenna visualization software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 280 kB
[02:33] <benji> apt-get is trying to connect to archive.ubuntu.com at ip address 1.0.0.0...now that doesn't sound right....when I ping it, it says ip 195.248.90.23
[02:33] <benji> anyone got any ideas?
[02:33] <NeoSaki> ummm >_>
[02:33] <NeoSaki> sounds like a screw up in your hosts
[02:34] <SillyZ> theres a 0.3 version but I found a 0.25 version, ill see if I can get that to install (antennavis)
[02:35] <benji> I checked the nameservers in the /etc/resolve.conf
[02:35] <SillyZ> kewl 0.2.5 runs.... woohoo! now to find 0.3
[02:36] <SillyZ> ,dsc is debin source correct?
[02:36] <xwolf-> benji consider getting a fresh sources.list file..
[02:36] <benji> yeah...did that, twice
[02:36] <benji> replaced it twice already
[02:36] <benji> no difference
[02:37] <benji> I'm wondering about this host file in etc
[02:37] <benji> if maybe I should try something there
[02:37] <xwolf-> hm. so it is rerouting the repos to 1.0.0.0 then... yeah, probably hosts file
[02:37] <benji> should I just add my router ip there?
[02:37] <SillyZ> I think we got it ... found a 0.3-2 version of antennavis ... thanks yall
[02:40] <benji> so does anyone know what I might want to add to this hosts file?
[02:41] <benji> it has the 127.0.0.1	localhost thing going on....
[02:41] <benji> but nothing else
[02:43] <benji> I mean I guess I could add the archive.ubuntu.com there witht he current ip address
[02:43] <benji> but that would just be a temporary workaround....
[02:44] <tekeo___> hello I want to install cedega and I'm trying to do so from a .deb file so I do sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb however I get this error:
[02:44] <tekeo___> Unpacking cedega (from cedega_5.1_i386.deb) ...
[02:44] <tekeo___> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cedega:
[02:44] <tekeo___>  cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0); however:
[02:44] <tekeo___>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[02:44] <tekeo___> dpkg: error processing cedega (--install):
[02:44] <tekeo___>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:44] <tekeo___> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:44] <tekeo___>  cedega
[02:45] <NeoSaki> tekeo___: Simple, install xlibs
[02:45] <SillyZ> ok using dpkg whats the command to uninstall ?
[02:45] <tekeo___> cannot find the package
[02:45] <SillyZ> --remove?
[02:45] <tekeo___> I find xlibs-dev though
[02:45] <NeoSaki> use it
[02:46] <tekeo___> NeoSaki: still doesn't work
[02:46] <NeoSaki> what version of xlibs, tekeo___?
[02:47] <NeoSaki> or google for xlibs, download source, configure and compile
[02:47] <NeoSaki> ^^
[02:47] <tekeo___> NeoSaki: 7.0.0
[02:48] <tekeo___> NeoSaki: when I do sudo apt-get install xlibs I get this:
[02:48] <tekeo___> However the following packages replace it:
[02:48] <tekeo___>   libxft1 xkeyboard-config
[02:48] <ruffy> hey all
[02:48] <ruffy> i have a bit of a problem
[02:48] <tekeo___> NeoSaki should I install xkeyboard-config?
[02:48] <ruffy> i set up kubuntu
[02:48] <ruffy> through alternate install cd
[02:49] <ruffy> but i dont seem to have any root account
[02:49] <benji> get used to it
[02:49] <benji> there is no root in kubuntu
[02:49] <ruffy> su asks for a password, but doesn't accept anything
[02:49] <benji> sudo this and sudo that
[02:49] <ruffy> yeah
[02:49] <ruffy> well how do i setup the sudo password
[02:49] <ruffy> ?
[02:49] <xwolf-> tekeo___ i've seen somewhere this xlibs package isn't that important. i downloaded a dummy package and installed it just to get a green light for cedega
[02:50] <xwolf-> but i still couldn't install anything with cedega :P
[02:50] <powermac_> sudo -s
[02:50] <benji> I have no clue....you were never asked for a password during the install
[02:50] <benji> ?
[02:50] <powermac_> will put you into root permanently in konsole
[02:50] <ruffy> only for an account password
[02:50] <benji> and that one won't work?
[02:50] <benji> yeah, sudo -s
[02:50] <benji> a good trick
[02:50] <ruffy> alright
[02:50] <ruffy> i'll try it
[02:51] <powermac_> so dothis: sudo -s
[02:51] <powermac_> in ckonsole
[02:51] <ruffy> nope
[02:51] <powermac_> then it asks for your password
[02:51] <ruffy> asks for a password
[02:51] <ruffy> which i dont have
[02:51] <powermac_> right, so put it in
[02:51] <ruffy> oh
[02:51] <ruffy> wait
[02:51] <ruffy> it worked
[02:51] <ruffy> k thanks
[02:51] <powermac_> did you install the system?
[02:51] <powermac_> then you have a password
[02:52] <powermac_> ok, if you want to move things in a GUI,
[02:52] <powermac_> now type "konqueror"
[02:52] <powermac_> and konquerer will open with root priveledges
[02:53] <benji> good tip...can I make an alias or script to open konqueror as root?
[02:53] <powermac_> hmm
[02:53] <galorin> I'm looking for a way that I can have kdm automatically start 2 sessions, and log them both in automatically as different users.
[02:53] <powermac_> perhaps in the k menu someplace
[02:54] <benji> I kind of believe that a gui should be just that...haha
[02:54] <powermac_> maybe in the "run a command"
[02:54] <benji> they should add a file manage as root thing in kubuntu
[02:54] <powermac_> actually, you can creat another user
[02:54] <powermac_> which logs in as root
[02:55] <powermac_> in a GUI
[02:55] <powermac_> i read how to do that someplace
[02:55] <powermac_> search for "GUI root user kubuntu" or something like that
[02:55] <benji> I like how in mepis you right click some root privleged file and it has the option 'edit as root', or 'rn as root'
[02:55] <benji> or is that another distro
[02:55] <benji> can't recall
[02:55] <powermac_> you have to modify a config file someplace
[02:56] <powermac_> well, konqueror also has an "execute a command" option nder the "tools" menu
[02:57] <benji> great...now I can't even ping archive.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <powermac_> contro+E
[02:57] <powermac_> control+E
[02:58] <powermac_> or keep 2 konqueror window open, 1 as root, the other as normal
[02:58] <benji> something really screwy is happening with my dns resolve...
[02:59] <benji> I wish I was smart enough to fix it
[02:59] <xwolf-> to open konqueror as root, alt f2 -> kdesu konqueror
[02:59] <powermac_> wehre to put that comand?
[02:59] <benji> sometimes the archive.ubuntu.com will ping and sometimes it won't
[03:00] <ruffy> hey again'
[03:00] <ruffy> whats the address for cups?
[03:00] <ruffy> to setup my printer
[03:00] <benji> the address for cups?
[03:00] <ruffy> yeah
[03:01] <benji> set it up with add programs
[03:01] <ruffy> it's like anb IP
[03:01] <benji> adept
[03:01] <ruffy> to access my printer
[03:01] <ruffy> adept?
[03:01] <benji> oh...
[03:01] <ruffy> apt?
[03:01] <benji> I have no idea about that
[03:01] <benji> sorry
[03:01] <ruffy> oh
[03:01] <ruffy> well
[03:01] <ruffy> then how do i turn on hplips?
[03:01] <benji> is it a network printer or something?
[03:01] <ruffy> it's not accessing hp setup command
[03:02] <fignew> ruffy: from the command line?
[03:02] <ruffy> yeah
[03:03] <benji> hey, does this happen to anyone else, when you click on an icon on menu app, it pretends like it is busy opening and then just disappears and never opens???  how bizarre....
[03:03] <MuJ> what are you trying to launch?
[03:04] <benji> it's done it with several apps
[03:04] <benji> adept
[03:04] <benji> wireless assistant
[03:04] <benji> firefox
[03:04] <xwolf-> benji the icon bounces for 30 seconds, then it stops. but the program still opens (or keeps trying to)
[03:04] <powermac_> for me it happened on gimp
[03:04] <benji> nah, it bounces for that long and then just goes away
[03:04] <MuJ> maybe you should try to launch them from konsole and see what if there's some errors
[03:04] <benji> good idea
[03:05] <powermac_> but i then went to adept and saw it wasnt installed!
[03:05] <MuJ> adept is wierd.. use apt-get ;P
[03:06] <bobbin> or apititude
[03:06] <benji> well, I opened from the konsole and it worked...
[03:06] <benji> but it did say X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 first off
[03:06] <bobbin> i mean aptititude :-)
[03:06] <benji> don't know what that means
[03:06] <bobbin> aptitude, excuse me
[03:07] <MuJ> benji: it's not important
[03:07] <benji> I hope the next kubuntu release is better...
[03:07] <benji> this one has given me headaches
[03:07] <zorglu_> !baddevice
[03:07] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[03:07] <zorglu_> benji: it was for you :)
[03:07] <benji> I'll read it
[03:08] <zorglu_> benji: the next one will be better and you will be more used to the linux way :) so better all around :)
[03:08] <benji> yeah, true...
[03:09] <MuJ> I bet efty will give lots of headaches when it's released
[03:09] <benji> now if I could just use apt-get....
[03:10] <zorglu_> benji: what is the trouble with apt-get
[03:10] <MuJ> apt-cache search package, apt-get install package
[03:10] <benji> why oh why does it think every repository source is 1.0.0.0?????
[03:10] <benji> and connection times out
[03:10] <MuJ> O_o
[03:10] <benji> replaced the sources.list already
[03:10] <benji> got rid of ip6
[03:11] <MuJ> did you run apt-get update?
[03:11] <zorglu_> benji: explain it in more details please :)
[03:11] <benji> checked my resolve list name servers
[03:11] <benji> okay...
[03:11] <zorglu_> benji: what do you do and what does it do you dont like :)
[03:11] <benji> I run apt-get update and it says....
[03:11] <benji> 0% connenting archive.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <benji> (1.0.0.0)
[03:12] <benji> and the connection times out
[03:12] <zorglu_> can you cut past the output of apt-get ?
[03:12] <benji> hold on
[03:12] <MuJ> your resolv is fudged up
[03:12] <powermac_> know anything about perl/TK?
[03:13] <powermac_> i'm trying to use MApivi, a picture viewer
[03:13] <zorglu_> powermac_: i guess the dedicated channel for this has a lot more people knowing stuff about it :)
[03:13] <powermac_> wehre is that?
[03:13] <zorglu_> powermac_: #tcl seems a good place for that :)
[03:14] <powermac_> ok, i'll try. thanks.
[03:14] <benji> well, i can't highlite to copy for some reson....
[03:14] <zorglu_> benji:  to learn how to cut/paste is a first step in getting efficient help :)
[03:14] <benji> but it says [connecting to nz.archive.ubuntu.co, {1.0.0.0)
[03:14] <zorglu_> !cut
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <benji> I'm telling you it won't copy
[03:14] <zorglu_> let see if the bot got a page on this :)
[03:15] <marcus_> Is the 27 kernel unbroken does anybody know?
[03:15] <xwolf-> well, i've just downloaded it. but haven't restarted yet :)
[03:15] <benji> eventually it says Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[03:15] <xwolf-> if it's broken, somebody ought to say it right now :P
[03:16] <marcus_> thats why i asked :)
[03:16] <MuJ> that ip is wroonng!
[03:16] <benji> yeah...I reckon so
[03:16] <Tm_T> MuJ: you're wrong ip
[03:16] <benji> when I ping it I get 195.248.90.23
[03:17] <benji> all my internet works except when it comes to apt-get or adept
[03:17] <zorglu_> what about web browsing
[03:17] <benji> yep, no prob
[03:17] <zorglu_> and btw fix the cut/past thing :)
[03:17] <benji> I', doing msn, chat, web browsing
[03:18] <benji> cut is working now...
[03:18] <zorglu_> ok do 'telnet archive.ubuntu.com 80' and cut/past the result
[03:18] <benji> sometimes it won't highlight for some reason
[03:18] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[03:18] <zorglu_> there is a doc to learn how to do that
[03:18] <benji> okay, hold on
[03:18] <marcus_> anybody have a guess why fglrx-ati has problems with radeon express cards?
[03:18] <benji> telnet connected
[03:18] <marcus_> sure doesn't like the one in my toshiba. :)
[03:19] <zorglu_> hehe benji you really dont like cut/paste :)
[03:19] <marcus_> oh yeah and I would like to install linux on my fujitsu. Any way to do this lacking an external cd?
[03:20] <benji> I'll try to improve in that area
[03:20] <zorglu_> ok i have to go, but cut/paste is important for us because we need to know exactly what is going on :) thing which seems unimportant to you may be very important for us to help you :)
[03:20] <benji> okay wierd...I just exited telnet and tried spt-get update...
[03:20] <zorglu_> there is a whole book indexed on the ubuntu web site to learn how to do common thing
[03:20] <benji> and it started working
[03:20] <zorglu_> hehehe :)
[03:20] <NeoSaki> oh the fun of compiling a linux kernel
[03:20] <NeoSaki> >_>
[03:20] <zorglu_> cool :)
[03:21] <benji> yeah...but it seems like a bug in konsole
[03:21] <benji> that sometimes it just randomly won't highlight
[03:21] <zorglu_> benji: either you are the only one getting the bug or you simply dont know yet how to use it :)
[03:22] <benji> left click and drag over text to select....
[03:22] <benji> sometimes it works...sometimes not
[03:22] <benji> in konsole
[03:23] <benji> anyway, I think I still will have to fix something....sometimes I am able to ping the archives and then a second later, I'm not...
[03:23] <benji> after this should I run apt-get upgrade?
[03:24] <tony_> hello :)
[03:25] <benji> linux reminds me of DOS...so much typing....
[03:25] <tony_> i was wondring, i just installed ubuntu server , so now i have daulboot using grub, i was wondring , how can i remove the server and grub , and returning my system to single boot?
[03:26] <NeoSaki> tony: how did you install grub, to the MBA or to the /boot/ portion?
[03:26] <tony_> i have single harddrive, partitioned in two ext3 and swap .. so i installed the server on second partition
[03:27] <tony_> so i guess is MBA ????
[03:27] <tony_> :|
[03:27] <zorglu_> tony_: simply put the grub timer to a very short delay ?
[03:27] <zorglu_> like you got the partition you want to boot 1 sec after grub start, would that be good ?
[03:28] <tony_> if i don't do anything , grub is  loading shell
[03:29] <tony_> how can i do that ??
[03:29] <tony_> just wondring
[03:29] <zorglu_> there is a timeout variable in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:29] <tony_> if i delete the second partition , would that get me back to single boot ?
[03:29] <zorglu_> timeout         10
[03:29] <arienh4> hmm, this is the 3rd time i'm asking, but KPersonalizer keeps starting
[03:29] <zorglu_> something like that
[03:29] <benji> hmmm....I wonder how much of my precious bandwidth this apt-get update is using....
[03:29] <arienh4> i tried 2 workarounds
[03:30] <zorglu_> tony_: and you got the default vraiable which determine which partiion is started by default
[03:30] <zorglu_> tony_: something like "default         0"
[03:31] <zorglu_> tony_: with those 2 variables you could reach your goal i think, if i understand what you want :)
[03:31] <zorglu_> ok now see ya. and have fun :)
[03:31] <arienh4> there was a workaround for the startup scirpt i didn't try, but i can't find it anymore
[03:31] <benji> you can go into grub command line as well, I did it once...
[03:32] <benji> and choose the partition I wanted
[03:32] <tony_> well, default is set to 0 and timeout set to 3.. do i have to remove # signe
[03:32] <rod> hi, can anyone help with getting Xgl working with Dapper?  I'm trying to install the compiz-kde package but get a problem with dependencies?
[03:33] <jatos> wheres the best place to get help compilikng glibc?
[03:33] <NeoSaki> jatos: what seems to be the problem?
[03:34] <copter_> arienh4 : you still have problems with KPersonalizer poping all the time?
[03:34] <jatos> http://www.jatos.co.uk/jamie/page.php?page=8
[03:34] <arienh4> yup
[03:34] <jatos> I get that error when trying to compile it
[03:34] <copter_> arienh4 : ok wait
[03:34] <jatos> whilst I am compiling it on kubuntu, I am chroot'ed into an LFS temp env
[03:34] <copter_> arienh4 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231432
[03:35] <copter_> arienh4 : had the same problem couple of days ago
[03:36] <arienh4> that didn't work for me...
[03:36] <rod> hi, can anyone help with getting Xgl working with Dapper?  I'm trying to install the compiz-kde package but get a problem with dependencies?
[03:36] <copter_> wow. it worked like a charm for me
[03:37] <arienh4> because the file is empty
[03:37] <copter_> maybe you edited wrong file
[03:37] <copter_> yes
[03:37] <copter_> create it
[03:37] <copter_> and add 2 lines
[03:37] <copter_> [General] 
[03:37] <copter_> FirstLogin=false
[03:38] <tekeo___> I want to install a newer version of cedega and need to remove the old one however it doesn't work when I do: sudo dpkg -r cedega.deb I get this message: dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in. Anyone know how to uninstall it?
[03:38] <Tm_T> tekeo___: sudo dpkg -r cedega
[03:38] <Tm_T> if you remove, you don't name the package but the app
[03:39] <copter_> sudo apt-get remove cedega
[03:39] <copter_> afaik dpkg accepts only files, not name
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> rod, i got it to work on Edgy
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:41] <rod> ok, thanks a lot Admiral_Chicago!
[03:42] <benji> haha, so finally, the apt-get update finished succesfully...and the first thing I did after was:
[03:42] <benji> ping archive.ubuntu.com
[03:42] <benji> PING archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:42] <benji> stalled out
[03:44] <jeisma> can someone help mewit kubuntu?
[03:45] <jeisma> anyone?
[03:45] <benji> well, I am a newbie as they say, but tell me the prob
[03:45] <benji> maybe I have come accross it
[03:45] <Jucato> !ask
[03:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:45] <NeoSaki> jeisma: don't ask for help, ask a question
[03:45] <jeisma> i want to run firefox
[03:45] <jeisma> i downloaded it
[03:45] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, i can try
[03:46] <jeisma> and it just opens the file?
[03:46] <jeisma> rather than running it
[03:46] <Jucato> hm... "don't ask to ask, just ask.. :)"
[03:46] <jeisma> to install
[03:46] <vge> or get it from apt-get
[03:46] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, no
[03:46] <NeoSaki> jeisma: kmenu -> system -> adept
[03:46] <Jucato> jeisma: you can try installing it from the repositories to make your life easier :)
[03:46] <Admiral_Chicago> open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[03:46] <jeisma> i trried using adept
[03:46] <jeisma> ah ok
[03:47] <arienh4> i'm wondering, what would happen if you install the kde package itself?
[03:47] <NeoSaki> man...compiling the modules for the kernel is taking longer than compiling the kernel itself
[03:47] <warnet> aloo
[03:47] <Jucato> arienh4: which kde package?
[03:47] <benji> well, whenever I try to install .deb packages, I can never find the application afterwards
[03:48] <yudis> aloo
[03:48] <benji> anyway, I gotta get to sleep...thanks for all the advice guys
[03:48] <Jucato> benji: if it installed properly, it should (emphasis on should) be added automatically to the K Menu. But sometimes it doesn't
[03:48] <benji> hmmm.....
[03:48] <Jucato> benji: if that happens, you can type in "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in Konsole (ignore error messages)
[03:48] <benji> yeah, it didn't on the two I tried
[03:48] <benji> oh, okay...
[03:49] <Jucato> benji: it might also be the case that the apps weren't really meant to have K Menu entries
[03:49] <jeisma> i typed in sudo apt-get install firefox but it didnt find it?
[03:49] <jeisma> its in my home folder
[03:49] <arienh4> Jucato: THE kde package
[03:49] <Jucato> jeisma: most probably, you don't have the necessary repositories enabled
[03:50] <Jucato> !kde
[03:50] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:50] <Jucato> hm..
[03:50] <arienh4> i think it just installs much
[03:50] <jeisma> how do i get the necessary respositories enabled?
[03:51] <NeoSaki> Jucato: or he/she hasn't updated
[03:51] <Jucato> arienh4: yes. it installs almost everything :)
[03:51] <arienh4> by the way, how do you change the partitons?
[03:51] <NeoSaki> jeisma: try sudo apt-get update
[03:51] <NeoSaki> jeisma: then try sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:51] <Jucato> NeoSaki: if the repositories aren't enabled,  it makes no sense to update :)
[03:52] <NeoSaki> w00t down to the /driver/"s" compiling
[03:52] <Jucato> jeisma: launch Adept (from K Menu > System)
[03:52] <NeoSaki> Jucato: BUT if they were enabled, just hadn't updated the list, he wouldn't be able to install/find it
[03:53] <Jucato> NeoSaki: ah you mean updating AFTER enabling. that's different from just plain updating :)
[03:53] <arienh4> by the way, how do you change the partitons?
[03:53] <jeisma> it says its being referred to from another pakage? and has no installation candidate
[03:53] <okto> hi..does amarok (really) depends on libgtk2?
[03:53] <jeisma> ok i have adept open
[03:54] <Jucato> jeisma: in the Adept menu at the top, select "Manage Repositories"
[03:54] <NeoSaki> drivers/usb
[03:54] <jeisma> done
[03:54] <Jucato> make sure that the "main" repositories are enabled (except the one with dapper-backports, unless you want that, too)
[03:55] <okto> isnt libgtk for gnome? and amarok is a pure KDE app?
[03:55] <NeoSaki> meh, enable them all and let god sort it out ;)
[03:55] <NeoSaki> gtk isn't for anything
[03:55] <Jucato> NeoSaki: gtk is for GTK apps.
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, really?
[03:55] <NeoSaki> Jucato: I ment in specific for desktop
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !firefox
[03:55] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:56] <Tm_T> NeoSaki: well, amarok might need libgtk for ipod support etc
[03:56] <NeoSaki> it all depends on who programs it with what
[03:56] <NeoSaki> xD
[03:56] <okto> yes ...but does amarok depends on it? isnt amarok is a pure KDE app?
[03:56] <tony_> hello again . .
[03:56] <tony_> :)
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> thats not it...
[03:56] <Jucato> Tm_T speaketh, Jucato listeneth...
[03:56] <Tm_T> okto: yes
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> !info firefox
[03:56] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, to add extra repos...
[03:57] <Tm_T> okto: if I define "pure" same way that you do
[03:57] <tony_> ok.. need to remove my second ubuntu that i installed on same harddrive .. :) .. i have ubuntu desktop and server on single HD with two partition :)
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[03:57] <okto> Tm_T: but i do need libgtk to have amarok then?
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, i think that link should help
[03:57] <jeisma> ok i enabled the ones that said main
[03:57] <Tm_T> okto: not amarok itself, but maybe for some functionality to amarok
[03:57] <jeisma> now what?
[03:58] <Tm_T> okto: what's exactly your point?
[03:58] <Jucato> jeisma: click on Apply (at the bottom) then Fetch Updates (at the top)
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> try it again
[03:59] <okto> Tm_T: ok..i guess you right about ipod..i just want to get rid of libgtk...but when uninstall it also remove amarok...:(
[03:59] <^rob^> hello
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, is the package mozilla-firefox?
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure
[03:59] <Tm_T> okto: yes, amarok uses gtkpod to ipod support
[03:59] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: no. just firefox
[03:59] <^rob^> what distro is kubuntu 6.06.1 - dapper or breezy ??
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i have to go to class
[03:59] <Tm_T> okto: and gtkpod needs libgtk
[03:59] <^rob^> i downloaded an iso - desktop.
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> ^rob^, dapper
[03:59] <^rob^> ty
[03:59] <NeoSaki> okto: why do you need to get rid of libgtk
[03:59] <jeisma> now what?
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, that's what i thought, i have class now thanks
[04:00] <Jucato> jeisma: try looking for firefox and installing it
[04:00] <Jucato> in Adept
[04:00] <okto> Tm_T: to have "pure" kde..:)
[04:00] <man> hi
[04:00] <okto> NeoSaki:  to have "pure" kde..:)
[04:01] <NeoSaki> okto: there is no "pure" kde
[04:01] <tony_> how do i remove daul boot ?? ubuntu server / ubuntu desktop ???
[04:01] <Jucato> heh.. purist :)
[04:01] <man> my keyboar dont works in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????
[04:02] <NeoSaki> man: what type of keyboard?
[04:02] <man> my keyboar dont works in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????
[04:02] <Tm_T> okto: there's no such thing
[04:02] <Tm_T> okto: unless you have only kdecore
[04:02] <okto> Jucato: just try..:) i dont think you can in (k)ubuntu then..)
[04:02] <Jucato> okto: yes. better remove Ubuntu, because  it isn't pure KDE :P
[04:02] <jeisma> do i need o install all of those firefox stuff?
[04:03] <NeoSaki> jeisma: no
[04:03] <NeoSaki> jeisma: just firefox
[04:03] <Jucato> jeisma: just right-click on the one that says plain "firefox"
[04:03] <okto> Tm_T: the only kde app that got remove along with libgtk is only amarok, in my case
[04:03] <Jucato> okto: app-install-data is also a GNOME thing that Adept depends on, AFAIK
[04:03] <jeisma> i requested to install.. now what?
[04:04] <okto> Jucato: i dont have app-install-date anymore..also kubuntu-desktop
[04:04] <tony_> click on apply changes
[04:04] <Jucato> jeisma: now click on "Preview Changes" to double check that nothing will be rmoved, then on Apply Changes
[04:04] <okto> Jucato: adept gone too
[04:05] <Tm_T> okto: yes, but libgtk isn't only "non-kde" thing there
[04:05] <jeisma> can you rin AIM on kubuntu?
[04:05] <jeisma> run*
[04:05] <Jucato> okto: but seriously, I just don't get this "pure KDE" thing... Don't get me wrong, I love KDE extremely. I just don't get the reason why one would have to do that...
[04:05] <Jucato> oh well, different strokes for different brushes
[04:05] <Tm_T> jeisma: you have kopete
[04:05] <tony_> kopete is very cool
[04:05] <tony_> :)
[04:05] <jeisma> is that the smae thing as AIM?
[04:05] <tony_> yes
[04:06] <jeisma> you can talk to AIM?
[04:06] <tony_> allows you to connect to different protocol as well
[04:06] <Jucato> jeisma:Kopete is a multi-protocal IM client: Yahoo, MSN, AIM, Jabber
[04:06] <Tm_T> jeisma: well, you can use it for aim and msn and yahoo and jabber and...
[04:06] <jeisma> ah ok
[04:06] <Tm_T> tony_: it is
[04:06] <Tm_T> very
[04:06] <tony_> :|
[04:06] <tony_> cool
[04:06] <tony_> :P
[04:07] <okto> Jucato: no offence..just trying to...maybe next experiment i try to get pure GTK...now that would be easy..:)
[04:07] <tony_> ok , now to my big problme
[04:07] <tony_> :(
[04:07] <Jucato> okto: heh, that speaks a lot to me :P
[04:07] <frojnd> what's the command if u wanna check how much space do u have on your hd
[04:07] <tony_> need to remove ubuntu server from my system , back to single boot
[04:07] <Jucato> frojnd: df -h
[04:07] <frojnd> tnx
[04:07] <okto> Jucato: of course...;)
[04:07] <man> my keyboard doesnt work in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????
[04:08] <Jucato> okto: here' what you might want to try to get a pure KDE, or at least as pure as it can be in Kubuntu: server (minimal) install using the Alternate Install CD + x-window-system-core + kde-core
[04:08] <Jucato> or replace "kde-core" with "kde"
[04:09] <Jucato> s/here'/here's
[04:09] <ep> Is it safe to remove some of the older kernels showing up in Grub?
[04:10] <okto> Jucato: ok, i try that, i went from minimal, xorg and kubuntu-desktop...i then remove kubuntu-desktop and peel it off one by one but stuck with amarok since it needs libgtk
[04:10] <JohnFlux> is there a meta package to install gcc, automake etc
[04:11] <Jucato> okto: well, that's one way. but installing kde-core or kde would make you work from the ground up, adding packages rather than removing
[04:11] <Jucato> JohnFlux: build-essential
[04:11] <jeisma> is there a way to speed up startup?
[04:11] <flavioribeiro> when ive upgraded my pc, my keyboard stopped...anyone knows why?
[04:11] <Jucato> JohnFlux: but I don't think automake is included
[04:13] <okto> Jucato: hmm..do you think that would make any diffirence with amarok (and its ipod support)?
[04:13] <Jucato> okto: not really sure on that
[04:13] <jvff> Hello
[04:13] <JohnFlux> Jucato: thanks for the help
[04:13] <flavioribeiro> after the sudo apt-get upgrade, my pc doesnt detect keyboard anymore.. any1 know why?
[04:14] <okto> Jucato: Ok..thanks anyway
[04:14] <jvff> Does Kubuntu (for x86-64) have the kernel sources and dev tools?
[04:15] <erik_> hi all
[04:15] <Sanne> jvff: think so, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com for packages and architectures
[04:15] <jvff> ok
[04:15] <jvff> thanks
[04:16] <erik_> i got 1 simple question: how do i update the whole system? (like windows update)
[04:16] <ep>  I have both  kernels 2.6.15-26.47-k7 and 2.6.15-26.48-k7 installed.  This seems a little redundant to me. When I mark the ".47" one for removal in synaptic is shows up red highlighted instead of blue.  Am I screwing up?
[04:17] <erik_> and how do i get adept to see package from the internet, and not just local packages
[04:17] <Jucato> erik_: if there are updates available, you will receive a notification icon on your system tray
[04:17] <MenZa> erik_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:17] <MenZa> (for the first)
[04:17] <horizon> hey there
[04:17] <MenZa> hi'
[04:17] <horizon> may name is ufuk fromistanbul
[04:18] <jeisma> how come firefox failed to install the flash/real player plugins?
[04:18] <horizon> i would like to know if someone knows what happened to kubuntu dvd download links? all are gone!!
[04:18] <Jucato> jeisma: installing the flash/real player plugins using Firefox doesn't work like in Windows
[04:18] <jeisma> so how do i need to do it?
[04:18] <Jucato> !flash
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: using 32bit or 64bit?
[04:19] <horizon> anyone can answer me please?
[04:19] <horizon> i would like to know if someone knows what happened to kubuntu dvd download links? all are gone!!
[04:20] <Jucato> horizon: have you tried looking into other download mirrors/sites?
[04:20] <erik_> @jucato, bit weird that the kubuntu dvd hasnt got any updates right?
[04:20] <jeisma> no idea what i'm using, probably 32bit
[04:20] <horizon> yeah all the official web site on kubuntu
[04:20] <Jucato> erik_: I'm not sure about it. thought they got updated too
[04:20] <horizon> plus torrent links
[04:21] <horizon> all linked to kubuntu pages
[04:21] <horizon> for example
[04:21] <horizon> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release/
[04:21] <horizon> is gone
[04:21] <horizon> whick is uk mirror
[04:21] <horizon> also us
[04:21] <erik_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/dvd/
[04:21] <horizon> ireland torrents as well
[04:21] <erik_> but that are .torrent files
[04:22] <erik_> what is the big deal with the dvd btw?
[04:22] <Jucato> horizon: hold on
[04:22] <erik_> i didnt see any differneces
[04:22] <horizon> but the torrents are also linked to the same pages and doesnt work for 3 days
[04:22] <Jucato> erik_: more software available for installation offline
[04:23] <erik_> so kynaptic is on the dvd?
[04:23] <Jucato> erik_: probably.
[04:23] <jeisma> in kopete, i hid my menubar, how do i get it back?
[04:23] <horizon> i was downloading amd 64 bit dvd iso
[04:23] <Jucato> jeisma: Ctrl+M
[04:23] <horizon> and now it is interrupted at 2.5 gb
[04:24] <horizon> and not working for 3 days
[04:24] <horizon> any alternative links to download??
[04:24] <erik_> jucato do you know the apt-get line for kynaptic?
[04:24] <horizon> except these tree mirrors on page and torrent?
[04:25] <Jucato> erik_: sudo apt-get install kynaptic ?
[04:25] <Jucato> erik_: are you looking for kynaptic or kynaptics?
[04:25] <NeoSaki> anyone here have the current kubuntu kernel precompiled?
[04:25] <ep> Also in addition, to the k7 kernels, I have two 386 kernels installed.  Should I keep em around?  Can I even boot from them?  They show up in grub but I'm afraid to try it.
[04:25] <admin_> hey all, i've just install ubuntu, on kubuntu u can edit root only files but going "edit as root" but under ubuntu it doesnt have that option, does anyone know why?
[04:25] <NeoSaki> the current i386 kubuntu kernel
[04:26] <erik_> "E: Kon pakket kynaptic niet vinden" (couldnt find kynaptic)
[04:26] <TheGateKeeper> admin_: ubuntu uses sudo
[04:26] <admin_> TheGateKeeper: how do i go about that?
[04:27] <Jucato> admin_: Ubuntu doesn't have that right-click option
[04:27] <horizon> jucato, will I wait for more?
[04:27] <Jucato> horizon: currently asking around
[04:27] <jeisma> is there a way to speed up startup?
[04:27] <admin_> Jucato: how do i do it then mate?
[04:28] <jeisma> how much memory does kubuntu use?
[04:28] <horizon> ok
[04:28] <horizon> i am waiting for you
[04:28] <horizon> thanks
[04:28] <Jucato> admin_: you need to edit a config file? "gksudo gedit <filename>"
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> admin_: when you installed it you will have created a user & password so: sudo bash_command & when it asks you for a password use the one you set up for your user
[04:28] <horizon> jucato please send me pm when you got a response
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> !sudo > admin_
[04:29] <ep> Let me simplify the question.  Please answer. I'm selecting some of these old kernels for removal in adept.  Fixing to hit "Apply Changes".  Anything wrong with this?
[04:29] <horizon> main conversation windows is so crowded
[04:29] <horizon> ;)
[04:29] <Sanne> ep: it's always a good idea to have at least two kernels on the machine. They should work fine. The only problem I see is that if you have proprietary graphics drivers set up in your xorg.cong (nvidia, ati), you need to have them installed for all your kernels.
[04:29] <Jucato> horizon: try this link: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/
[04:29] <Jucato> horizon: scratch that
[04:29] <jeisma> what was that website for multimedia stuff jucato?
[04:29] <Jucato> horizon: wrong link
[04:29] <douglas> hello, my wifes .kde has something in it that makes the space bar not work. How do I fix it without loosing all her personal settings?
[04:29] <erik_> so is there a easy way to install the packages from the dvd?, rather then manualy searching....
[04:30] <okto> admin_: i think because edit as root is a kde service menu that is not available in Ubuntu (nautilus)
[04:30] <ep> Thanks for the info. I'll keep at least two.
[04:30] <admin_> another thing is that every time i press any del buttons or any of those buttons includeing the arrow keys it trys taking a screen dumb, is there a way to turn that off?
[04:30] <Jucato> !flash > jeisma
[04:32] <douglas> anyone have any ideas why the space bar is not working? It works fine with a new .kde??
[04:32] <horizon> i think it is ok but is it live cd?
[04:32] <Jucato> horizon: no not that link. I was wrong about that link
[04:32] <erik_> is there any way that i can update the list of packages in adept?
[04:32] <horizon> okay can you suggest me another one?
[04:33] <horizon> 6.06 or 6.10
[04:33] <Jucato> horizon: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/
[04:33] <NeoSaki> !kernel
[04:33] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:33] <Sanne> ep: if you want to boot from the other and you're not sure about the graphics drivers, set up yout xorg conf file to use a graphics driver that will likely work. Like nv if you have an nvidia card, or maybe vesa, should work most. Command to do that is: sudo dpkg-regonfigure xserver-xorg
[04:33] <Jucato> horizon: I gave you a link for 6.10, which is still in development... that second one is for 6.06.1 (latest)
[04:33] <jeisma> how do i install xemacs or similar compiling software?
[04:34] <horizon> ok now checking
[04:34] <Jucato> jeisma: just search for it in Adept and install it. if it's available in the repositories, it will show up
[04:34] <jeisma> so when i download something i want to install it will be in adept? or should be
[04:35] <Jucato> jeisma: if it's available from our repositories, you'll be able to find it and install it easily using Adept
[04:35] <erik_> oh great, adept wont start again :(
[04:36] <Jucato> erik_: what happened?
[04:36] <erik_> klicked, kde ==> programma's toevoegen en verwijderen (add and/or remove programs)
[04:36] <erik_> but works agian
[04:37] <admin_> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop taking screen dumps?
[04:37] <erik_> now it propted me fo the root password
[04:37] <horizon> jucato it seems the link is working thanks
[04:38] <horizon> i hope it doesnt interrupt
[04:38] <erik_> but i stil have the idea that adept shows all available packages :(
[04:38] <Jucato> horizon: glad it worked. good luck!
[04:38] <horizon> thank you indeed
[04:38] <Jucato> erik_: I don't understand what you mean...
[04:39] <admin_> root@admin-desktop:~# gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[04:39] <admin_> (gksudo:6680): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:39] <erik_> i open adept, select "any suite" on top of the screen, then click games, and there is no software listed
[04:39] <Jucato> admin_: don't login as root
[04:39] <admin_> Ok
[04:39] <admin_> cheers
[04:40] <Jucato> erik_: ah you are using Adept Installer. Adept (Adept Manager) is the more powerful version
[04:40] <Jucato> erik_: you might want to check the "unsupported" box to display stuff from universe
[04:40] <admin_> does anyone now how to stop screen dumps being taken whenever i hit any of the arrow keys?
[04:40] <Jucato> most games are in universe
[04:40] <erik_> ah great :D will check
[04:43] <erik_> so how long should a request install take?
[04:44] <Jucato> erik_: as long as you haven't clicked on Apply Changes... (I suggest click on Preview Changes first, to double check what will be installed)
[04:44] <jeisma> i downloaded xemacs from adept, how do irun it cause i don't see it in the kmenu
[04:45] <Jucato> jeisma: is xemacs a GUI app or one you run on the command line?
[04:45] <Samuli^> kmenu takes time to refresh from what I remember.
[04:45] <jegui> gui i thought
[04:45] <jeisma> gui i thought
[04:45] <jeisma> i mean, it is gui
[04:46] <Samuli^> you mean it HAS gui :)
[04:46] <Jucato> jeisma: if some GUI apps don't appear in the K Menu after installation, try typing this command in Konsole (ignore error messages): "kbuildsycoca --incremental" (without the quotes)
[04:46] <jeisma> obviously im not well-versed in this stuff.. ye ;)
[04:47] <erik_> right click, request install, click preview changes, but no firefox :(
[04:48] <Jucato> erik_: what do you mean "no firefox"?
[04:48] <deuce868> I'm trying to setup ssh-agent in kubuntu and I'm wondering where the best place to start up ssh-agent is?
[04:48] <deuce868> Should I setup something in a new .xsession file (none exists by default) or is there a better place to allow kde apps to use it?
[04:49] <jeisma> still can't run xemacs
[04:49] <jeisma> or i dont' see it at least
[04:49] <jeisma> oh nevermind
[04:49] <jeisma> im wrong i gess
[04:49] <erik_> i right clicked on firefox, and then request install
[04:49] <jeisma> cause i ran it from the command line?
[04:50] <jeisma> Jucato, thank you very much for helping me with everything.
[04:50] <i4get2> edgy is still edgy...lol
[04:50] <Jucato> erik_: did you click Apply Changes?
[04:51] <erik_> that button is still grey....
[04:52] <erik_> it might have something to do with the fact that i manualy tried to install it ffrom the dvd
[04:52] <i4get2> what button is grey ?
[04:52] <ErikTheRed> this might be a noobie question, but how do i make firefox my default web browser instead of konqueror
[04:52] <Jucato> erik_: you have the DVD inserted right now?
[04:53] <cox377_> Jucato: i was admin_ a minute ago asking about editing the xorg.conf as root under ubuntu
[04:53] <Jucato> ErikTheRed: System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications
[04:53] <coreymon77> hey guys
[04:53] <coreymon77> i have a question
[04:54] <Jucato> cox377_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:54] <erik_> yep dvd's in now
[04:54] <Jucato> cox377_: but not in root terminal
[04:54] <coreymon77> in order to get my internet working
[04:54] <ErikTheRed> thanks Jucato
[04:54] <Jucato> erik_: in Adept, go to Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[04:54] <coreymon77> every time i load kubuntu i have to tpye in
[04:54] <coreymon77> sudo iwconfig ra0 essid cohens key 1a1e28f24d
[04:55] <coreymon77> and then my root password
[04:55] <cox377_> well i editied the same as i did under kubuntu to force a rez and when it restarted it comes up with errors under the ubuntu about the rez, everything i try within the terminal keeps telling me my login is incorrect
[04:55] <NeoSaki> hey question, How do I get the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel build?
[04:55] <coreymon77> is there any ways to get that script to automatically run each time i boot kubuntu
[04:56] <erik_> yes im there
[04:56] <coreymon77> hello
[04:56] <coreymon77> ?
[04:56] <coreymon77> can anyone help me?
[04:56] <erik_> enable the deb lines?
[04:56] <cox377_> dont worry
[04:57] <coreymon77> anybody?
[04:57] <kuto> hi all, i installed ubuntu but it doesnt have apache webserver..is it possible to install one?
[04:58] <kuto> eer..kubuntu
[04:58] <coreymon77> can anyone help me out?
[04:59] <Sanne> coreymon77: maybe this helps you? http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html
[04:59] <erik_> okay, enabled all the deb lines, then switched back to package list, then click 'get updates'
[04:59] <erik_> and w000t
[04:59] <erik_> thats like a lot :D
[04:59] <kuto> anyone?
[05:00] <Jucato> erik_: hm.. that would install stuff from the internet
[05:00] <erik_> and it works :)
[05:00] <erik_> thnx a million :D
[05:00] <coreymon77> sanne: not really
[05:00] <Jucato> erik_: ah ok. I thought you wanted to install from the DVD
[05:00] <coreymon77> that doesnt tell me how to have konsole scripts run automatically\
[05:00] <erik_> dont care realy, got 4mb/s internet right now
[05:01] <jfro> anybody know how to get vim to be doing syntax coloring in ubuntu/kubuntu? has gui,common,ruby,python but doesn't colorize them
[05:03] <coreymon77> okay im gonna try something
[05:03] <kuto> hi all, i installed kubuntu but it doesnt have apache webserver..is it possible to install one?
[05:04] <jfro> yeah, you can install it with Adept or apt-get
[05:04] <Sanne> coreymon77: look at 'man init'
[05:04] <cox377_> is there a restore command for ubuntu, once it tells me the rezolution is wrong and i go to terminal before ubuntu i run the gksudo gedit xorg.conf and it tells it it cant open displays
[05:04] <coreymon77> yay!
[05:04] <coreymon77> i did it!
[05:05] <frojnd> I installed rtorrent but it didn't appear in Kmentu -> Internet
[05:05] <frojnd> even if I type: kbuildsycoca --incremental
[05:05] <frojnd> or should I install more packages for rtorrent
[05:07] <kuto> jfro: http://pastebin.ca/176266
[05:07] <kuto> what am i missing?
[05:07] <cox377_> is there a safe mode for ubuntu
[05:07] <frojnd> !rtorrent
[05:07] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB
[05:07] <fildo> grub offers a recovery mode
[05:07] <Samuli^> cox377_, you can choose that from grub or from the login screen.
[05:07] <erik_> can someone can recommend me a cool 2d platform game?
[05:08] <fildo> rtorrent ? like ktorrent azereus ?
[05:08] <frojnd> jap
[05:09] <zerofool2005|a> There any wma players on linux?
[05:09] <kuto> can anyone help me with apt-get? im new to kubuntu => http://pastebin.ca/176266
[05:09] <Sanne> coreymon77: sorry, I was afk, did you solve it?
[05:09] <kuto> i want to install apache on this pc
[05:09] <fildo> kuto: man apt-get
[05:09] <coreymon77> yup
[05:10] <fildo> !apache
[05:10] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[05:10] <Sanne> coreymon77: how? ;)
[05:11] <coreymon77> i remembered a tip that someone else told me a little while ago
[05:11] <coreymon77> i put a shell cript of the command in my autostart folder
[05:11] <coreymon77> it never worked before
[05:12] <coreymon77> but i realized that i should just put my root passwrod on the next line
[05:12] <coreymon77> since the command was sudo
[05:12] <NeoSaki> !shortcut
[05:12] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[05:12] <NeoSaki> !link
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <NeoSaki> !pseudolink
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pseudolink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <red_> how do i edit the grub menu
[05:13] <zorglu_> red_: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:14] <Sanne> coreymon77: the 'official' way to do it system wide is to use the init system. You put a script in /etc/init.d and link to it in the runlevel specific place /etc/rc<n>.d, <n> being the runlevel. Details in 'man init'
[05:14] <Sanne> coreymon77: in case you're still interested :)
[05:14] <cannonball> zorglu_: really, you guys recommend kate over vi (or gvim) or nano or emacs?  I'm not criticizing, just curious why.
[05:14] <red_> that doesnt work
[05:15] <kuto> fildo: http://pastebin.ca/176274
[05:15] <Sanne> cannonball: matter of preference and stuff for religious wars ;)
[05:15] <kuto> it doesnt want to install apache2?
[05:16] <zorglu_> cannonball: well vi is *very* hard to use. emacs and nano are simpler but still require to know 'custom keys'. kate is much easier as it use a gui and the 'usual keys'
[05:16] <Tal> hello again guys and girls.
[05:16] <nonickname> i have an hd with about 5.5 million bad sectors, according to qtparted.. is this bad?
[05:16] <zorglu_> cannonball: here usual/custom are as in compared with window
[05:16] <Tal> another question for all you braniacs
[05:16] <Tal> I have Kubuntu on one HD, and Windoze Xp on another. Is there a simple way to dual boot the machine?
[05:17] <Tal> i have read up and i need something to do with Grub and Mbr
[05:17] <nonickname> !ntfs
[05:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:17] <nonickname> wrong one
[05:17] <Tal> but its a little confusing.
[05:17] <nonickname> !grub
[05:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:17] <coreymon77> sanne
[05:17] <Tal> are you both saying the same thing?
[05:17] <kuto> can anyone help me with this? =>  http://pastebin.ca/176274
[05:17] <coreymon77> im the only one who uses this computer
[05:18] <nonickname> he's automatedf
[05:18] <Sanne> coreymon77: yes?
[05:18] <Tal> oh, bot.
[05:18] <coreymon77> so i dont need it systemwide
[05:18] <Tal> gotcha
[05:18] <insparedes_> !es
[05:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:18] <nonickname> :P
[05:18] <Sanne> coreymon77: ah
[05:18] <Tal> :P
[05:18] <nonickname> search google for dual boot grub or something
[05:18] <Tal> hok
[05:18] <Sanne> coreymon77: I just don't know how to do it any other way ;) I thought you might want to know about it.
[05:19] <lwells> Anyone ever try to run Synergy?
[05:19] <nonickname> this hd has 300 million sectors and 5 million are bad o.o
[05:19] <host-one> hito all :)
[05:20] <vhogemann> !pt
[05:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:20] <host-one> hi to all :)
[05:20] <fildo> hi host-one
[05:20] <kuto> !repository
[05:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:20] <Tal> nonickname, due to the fact that im a n00b
[05:20] <Tal> i dont understand half of what is written
[05:20] <nonickname> ah
[05:20] <Tal> got a sweet link for me? which is aimed at complete n00bs
[05:21] <Tal> im using the console to a certain extent :) which is nice.
[05:21] <nonickname> lemme find something, basically you need to reinstall grub, then edit the grub config file to optionally load windows
[05:21] <Tal> only been on linux about a month
[05:21] <Tal> on what HD?
[05:21] <kuto> apt-get repositories doesnt work by default?
[05:21] <Tal> windoze or kubuntu?
[05:21] <host-one> Do you know a lite java editor for linux? i use eclipse but is too slowly
[05:21] <nonickname> uhm
[05:21] <fildo> the prim
[05:21] <fildo> primary hd
[05:21] <nonickname> ah
[05:21] <vhogemann> host-one, jedit?
[05:21] <Tal> fildo @ me?
[05:22] <fildo> i would assume so
[05:22] <Tal> and which one is the primary HD
[05:22] <Tal> they are noth set to master at the moment.
[05:22] <Tal> both*
[05:22] <nonickname> ?
[05:22] <fildo> how are they setup
[05:22] <nonickname> the primary master
[05:22] <kuto> apt-get repositories doesnt work by default?
[05:22] <nonickname> hda
[05:22] <Tal> completely separately
[05:22] <nonickname> ?
[05:22] <host-one> vhogemann: another?
[05:22] <Samuli^> kuto, cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[05:22] <Tal> as in i unplugged the winxp one
[05:22] <Tal> then set up linux on a separate HD
[05:23] <nonickname> ahh
[05:23] <Tal> when i want to switch, at the moment i unplug the IDE cables of one and plug the other in.
[05:23] <Tal> which is a PITA
[05:23] <Tal> i use linux for 95% of things
[05:23] <nonickname> so, make the windows one the primary slave, and have the linux one with grub on it optionally load windows?
[05:23] <kuto> Samuli^: Acquire::http::Proxy "false"; <= should i enable it??
[05:23] <Tal> even the online game i play is linux compatible
[05:24] <Tal> but sonic stage software dont work
[05:24] <Tal> primary slave?
[05:24] <Samuli^> kuto, make a backup and make the file empty
[05:24] <Tal> is that a jumper setting?
[05:24] <Tal> and what you just said is exactly what i want.
[05:24] <nonickname> yes, it can also depend on the cables
[05:24] <Tal> linux as the primary, but when i need XP
[05:24] <Tal> the option to load it
[05:24] <nonickname> ahh
[05:25] <nonickname> is your primary partition on hda?
[05:25] <Tal> err..
[05:25] <Tal> is there a quick way to check that.
[05:25] <nonickname> the linux one
[05:25] <nonickname> hmm
[05:25] <Tal> this HD (linux) only has linux on it
[05:25] <nonickname> i'm not sure myself
[05:25] <Tal> if that helps
[05:25] <Tal> it was formatted and clean instal
[05:26] <Tal> assume yes nonick
[05:26] <zorglu_> Tal: qparted will tell you which partition is primary of secondary
[05:26] <zorglu_> or you could guess by the device name :)
[05:26] <Tal> one sec
[05:26] <Tal> ok got it
[05:26] <Tal> hda1
[05:26] <kuto> Samuli^: done, but nothing happens when i tried updating => E: Couldn't find package apache2
[05:26] <zorglu_> so it is a primary
[05:26] <Tal> i checked storage media
[05:27] <Tal> and went to properties
[05:27] <Tal> :)
[05:27] <zorglu_> nice :)
[05:27] <Tal> the other one says hdb1
[05:27] <Samuli^> kuto, sudo apt-get update
[05:27] <Tal> so, whats the easiest way to get this done.
[05:27] <Samuli^> kuto, what does it put out?
[05:27] <nonickname> im pretty sure all you will have to do is edit the grub configuration
[05:27] <fildo> n0d
[05:27] <Tal> and how do i do that
[05:28] <fildo> in bash
[05:28] <nonickname> bash?
[05:28] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176292
[05:28] <fildo> sudo vi /etc/grub.conf
[05:28] <nonickname> i did it from livecd :P
[05:28] <zorglu_> mouaouaoua
[05:28] <fildo> ah
[05:28] <Tal> you mean konsole?
[05:28] <fildo> same stuff
[05:28] <Tal> as did i :P
[05:28] <zorglu_> fildo: and dont forget to say he has to learn vi first :)
[05:28] <Tal> ok.
[05:28] <Samuli^> kuto, you need to apt-get update first.
[05:28] <nonickname> nano = easier
[05:28] <Tal> trying sudo vi /etc/grub.conf
[05:28] <fildo> insert .
[05:29] <fildo> ctrl w
[05:29] <zorglu_> Tal: do you know the text editor vi ?
[05:29] <fildo> isnt it ? to save n exit ?
[05:29] <NeoSaki> whats the command to edit the xorgconfig in kubuntu
[05:29] <Tal> zor?
[05:29] <Samuli^> kuto, it'll download the package lists for apt.
[05:29] <Tal> Kate is the text editor?
[05:29] <fildo> i cbf using it .. joe is the primo editor
[05:29] <nonickname> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Configuration.html
[05:29] <Tal> not sure what vi means
[05:29] <Tal> or you mean 4?
[05:29] <nonickname> search that page for windows, should have the config
[05:29] <fildo> vi is a text editor
[05:29] <NeoSaki> or if someone knows how to get to fglrxconfig in kubuntu, it would be nice
[05:29] <fildo> !vi
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <nonickname> !vim
[05:30] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:30] <zorglu_> Tal: you may try "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:30] <fildo> thtas the one!
[05:30] <nonickname> :P
[05:30] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176306
[05:30] <Tal> do i need "
[05:30] <fildo> /echo $time
[05:30] <fildo> ah
[05:30] <zorglu_> Tal: "vi" is the name of a text editor which is quite old and known to be hard to learn :) but some people still like it
[05:30] <Tal> i have Kate
[05:30] <zorglu_> other dont :)
[05:31] <nonickname> what is vi good for?
[05:31] <Tal> ok so type this in konsole?
[05:31] <Tal> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:31] <Tal> ya?
[05:31] <nonickname> as opposed to easier text editors
[05:31] <fildo> editing conf files, in bash
[05:31] <fildo> making scripts
[05:31] <fildo> coding
[05:31] <Samuli^> kuto, odd it doesn't put out more than that, but try if you can install apache now.
[05:31] <nonickname> does it have syntax highlighting?
[05:31] <zorglu_> nonickname: you mean does it have any significant advantages ? i dont think so
[05:31] <fildo> no
[05:31] <Tal> ok menu is up in kate.
[05:31] <nonickname> zorglu_: ah
[05:31] <Samuli^> kuto, other than that you could check out what your /etc/apt/sources.list says.
[05:31] <Tal> now where am i heading?
[05:31] <zorglu_> nonickname: but is it much harder to use ? i do think so :)
[05:32] <nonickname> lol, as do i
[05:32] <nonickname> i've gotta go download sp2 and a firewall for windows, lol
[05:32] <Tal> this is all gibberish to me :P
[05:32] <nonickname> that's the only reason i'm in linux at the moment, to be honest
[05:32] <Tal> i have the menu.lst open.
[05:32] <fildo> use standard one
[05:32] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176310
[05:33] <fildo> n route with a nix firewall
[05:33] <harry> !paste
[05:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:33] <kuto> i did not install the server version...do i have to?
[05:33] <nonickname> wow lol
[05:33] <Sanne> Tal: if you haven't already, I recommend making a backup of menu.list
[05:33] <nonickname> microsoft.com gave konqueror a sigsev
[05:33] <Samuli^> kuto, probably you're sources.list isn't good then.
[05:33] <Tal> save as (another name?)
[05:33] <Samuli^> your
[05:33] <zorglu_> ok have fun guys
[05:33] <Tal> Samuli^
[05:33] <Sanne> Tal: why not, but remember to open the real one again.
[05:33] <kuto> Samuli^: can you give me the source links?
[05:33] <fildo> i need a smoke. brb
[05:33] <Tal> ok. good point.
[05:34] <MitchM> argh!
[05:34] <nonickname> lol fildo
[05:34] <MitchM> talk like a pirate day
[05:34] <nonickname> o.o
[05:34] <admin_> if i've install ubuntu, is it possible to install kde over the top of it to make it kubuntu?
[05:34] <MitchM> ye be a scurvey dog!
[05:34] <Sanne> admin_: yes, I think for the whole kubuntu experience it's the package kubuntu-desktop
[05:34] <fildo> admin_: yes
[05:35] <nonickname> lol
[05:35] <Samuli^> kuto, mine looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/176315
[05:35] <nonickname>  /nick mynickname
[05:35] <cannonball> MitchM: http://pics.mrball.net/main.php?g2_itemId=303   :-D
[05:35] <admin_> Sanne: cheers, i shall instal that now..
[05:35] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176316 <= my source.list..nothing is enabled by default??
[05:35] <fildo> its a gig install
[05:35] <fildo> :D
[05:35] <Sanne> admin_: you're welcome
[05:35] <fildo> or 500meg
[05:35] <nonickname> admin_: you're gonna have the ubuntu stuff still, if i have been hearing complaints correctly
[05:36] <Tal> ok Samuli^ i am in the new one.
[05:36] <Tal> err old one.
[05:36] <admin_> fildo: lol...
[05:36] <Samuli^> kuto, like it says there.. line commented out by installer because it couldn't verify.
[05:36] <admin_> nonickname: Hmmm is it not recommended thne?
[05:36] <Tal> any idea what i need to change to enable XP to boot if i choose?
[05:36] <fildo> yeh it is
[05:36] <harry> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats
[05:36] <Samuli^> kuto, you didn't configure your network before install, did you? :)
[05:36] <fildo> ive done in .
[05:36] <nonickname> admin_: just the ubuntu stuff will still take up space
[05:36] <Samuli^> kuto, just un-comment the lines.
[05:36] <admin_> nonickname: i get yah
[05:36] <fildo> kubuntu ?  it just kdm
[05:37] <harry> im using kubuntu 5.10
[05:37] <admin_> nonickname: it's only a 9gb drive so i'm wondering now...
[05:37] <Samuli^> Tal, what? old, new?
[05:37] <NeoSaki> pray that i dont die
[05:37] <kuto> Samuli^: i did, except for repositories..
[05:37] <Tal> ignore that bit, i am in menu.lst
[05:37] <Tal> what do i need to change?
[05:38] <Tal> (i backed up)
[05:38] <Samuli^> tal, did I talk to you last night?
[05:38] <Tal> lol no i thought you were reading earlier.
[05:38] <fildo> Tal: get into habbit of backing up files u edit
[05:38] <Tal> i assume you wernt :P
[05:38] <fildo> otherwise end up in serious mischief
[05:38] <Tal> indeed :P
[05:38] <Tal> fildo  knows the problem i have
[05:38] <Tal> any idea what i need to add in there dude
[05:39] <fildo> 2 x hdd
[05:39] <Tal> where abouts
[05:39] <fildo> needs to add grub to dual boot
[05:39] <lwells> does linux come with XTest?
[05:39] <Flarp> is anyone running kubuntu live cd from an iso image with vmplayer?
[05:39] <fildo> !xtest
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xtest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Flarp> !vmplayer
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <Samuli^> tal, you'd probably need something like title microsoft, bla bla.. root (your partition) makedefault saveactive chainloader +1 :)
[05:40] <harry> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats
[05:40] <Samuli^> tal, is windows on the first HD?
[05:40] <fildo> !seen flaccid
[05:40] <harry> im using kubuntu 5.10
[05:40] <ubotu> I last saw flaccid (n=flaccid@CPE-124-177-23-165.vic.bigpond.net.au) 3h 20m 34s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[05:40] <Tal> its on hdb1
[05:40] <Tal> kubuntu is hda1
[05:40] <Samuli^> tal, ok, so you need mapping as well then..
[05:40] <coreymon77> !seen tal
[05:40] <ubotu> Tal is on IRC right now!
[05:40] <Tal> !
[05:40] <coreymon77> just joking
[05:41] <Tal> ORLY!?
[05:41] <Sanne> Samuli^, Tal: there's an example for a windows boot entry under "examples", in case you didn't notice.
[05:41] <Tal> *coughs* ok mapping. that sounds super hard!
[05:41] <Tal> oo really?
[05:42] <Tal> ah i see it
[05:42] <Tal> obviously i remove the # # #
[05:42] <Tal> but does it matter where it is?
[05:42] <octan> aye September 19th is International Talk Like A Pirate Day http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
[05:42] <Sanne> Tal: I don't really know what you need to put in, but I thought I point it out, another person please help with the details :)
[05:42] <octan> harr harr harr
[05:42] <Tal> can i add it to the bottom of the list.
[05:42] <Samuli^> Tal, you could try this: http://pastebin.ca/176329
[05:42] <Samuli^> yeah, just add it to the bottom of the file.
[05:42] <Tal> kk
[05:43] <Tal> ok ill paste what you wrote.
[05:43] <Tal> when i save it i restart and see what happens correcto?
[05:43] <fildo> pirates are old school n over rated. please dont spam
[05:43] <Tal> Ninja > Pirates
[05:43] <Tal> nuff said.
[05:43] <admin_> I'm glad linux servers are always fast
[05:43] <admin_> 408mb
[05:44] <fildo> cause they dont chew resources like a M$ shit machine
[05:44] <Samuli^> tal, yes. You could and different ones with a little different options and see which one works. Or just use the grub edit while in the grub if it doesn't load to modify things.
[05:44] <Tal> ok well i added it..
[05:44] <Tal> ill restart now and see if it blows up.
[05:44] <Sanne> Tal: you may also increase the timeout
[05:44] <Tal> ..
[05:44] <Tal> explain?
[05:44] <Sanne> Tal: so you have more time choosing
[05:44] <admin_> fildo: sorry, i mean the bandwidth when getting stuff off the net, like downloading the kubuntu-desktop.. always full speed
[05:44] <Sanne> Tal: moment
[05:45] <Tal> k
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: there's a timeout setting at the beginning of the file, I found it too short.
[05:45] <fildo> admin_: 408mb.. i knew it was around that,
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: search for "timeout", you should find it.
[05:45] <Tal> ah yes
[05:45] <Tal> 3 seconds
[05:45] <Tal> damn!
[05:45] <admin_> fildo: just hope it doesnt take up too much room
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: see? :)
[05:45] <Tal> 20secs more like it
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: exactly what I have hehe
[05:45] <fildo> shouldnt ..
[05:46] <Tal> great
[05:46] <Tal> ok let me restart
[05:46] <Sanne> Tal: good luck
[05:46] <Tal> if you hear a bang
[05:46] <fildo> goodluck
[05:46] <Tal> that will be me
[05:46] <Tal> brb
[05:46] <Sanne> hehe
[05:46] <fildo> lol
[05:46] <fildo> n00bz
[05:46] <octan> you noobi
[05:47] <fildo> nup
[05:47] <Sanne> admin_: another option would have been to get the alternate kubuntu cd which can serve as a repository
[05:53] <supernova_> hello
[05:54] <Sanne> hi supernova_
[05:54] <Buffy^^> well ssh is lovely
[05:55] <Buffy^^> and I have hlds up and running like a charm :D
[05:56] <supernova_> my Ktorrent is closing automatically after some time. what can be the problem?
[05:56] <fildo> nice work
[05:57] <fildo> mine always stall :p
[05:57] <fildo> so i drifted to use azereus . or opera
[05:57] <supernova_> Does the torrent automatically start in opera?
[05:58] <fildo> yep . u save it
[05:58] <fildo> n it moves to tranfer tab
[05:58] <supernova_> ok i'll try opera. But is it possible to fix ktorrent?
[05:59] <fildo> yerp. reinstall
[05:59] <supernova_> thnx fildo...letme shift to opera for now.
[06:00] <fildo> npz
[06:06] <lsproc> I have my OE email boxes, they are index.dbx, googlemail.dbx etc. I want to import these into KMail. Shall I copy the entire mail store?
[06:07] <kuto> how do you start apache2 services..
[06:07] <usuario_> service httpd start
[06:08] <fildo> kuto: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[06:08] <larson9999> what's in these patches?  i've never used the ff ubuntu packages and want to know what i'm missing:  here in ubuntu, we have slightly custom builds of firefox, with our own special patches, so unfortunanty using the normal firefox updater would install the "offical" build without all of our patches.
[06:08] <fildo> kuto: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:09] <kuto> fildo: i installed it using apt-get but i cant see the script in my /etc/init.d
[06:09] <kristina> i have problems with cvscedega. when i type in cvscedega he says that he dont know
[06:09] <fildo> httpd.conf
[06:09] <Sanne> kuto: there's also a nice graphical frontend for starting things like apache: System Settings -> System Administration -> System Services
[06:10] <fildo> affirmatus
[06:10] <kuto> http://pastebin.ca/176361
[06:12] <kristina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24003
[06:12] <kuto> Conf libdbi-perl (1.50-1 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) <= does this thing means "Conflicting"?
[06:13] <creedence> hi guys
[06:13] <fildo> hi creedence
[06:13] <fildo> that or newer ver
[06:13] <creedence> it's lunch time... I am at work
[06:13] <creedence> I hate mIRC
[06:13] <creedence> :(
[06:14] <fildo> nice, why u use it for then
[06:14] <fildo> BitchX. .. non cli
[06:14] <fildo> is the shiznit
[06:14] <creedence> windows version?
[06:14] <creedence> No K here ...
[06:14] <fildo> pfft
[06:14] <fildo> dont insult me
[06:14] <creedence> hehe
[06:14] <creedence> I am hurtin'
[06:14] <Jucato> XChat runs on Windows
[06:15] <Buffy^> nnscript works better for windows
[06:15] <Jucato> it's also runs on Linux
[06:15] <xst> How do I configure konqueror to simply delete files when I select "delete" instead of moving them to trash?
[06:15] <fildo> sure ? ;p
[06:15] <Buffy^> delete the trash can
[06:15] <Jucato> xst: just press shift+delete
[06:15] <Buffy^> :P
[06:15] <creedence> xst - use shift then click delete
[06:15] <Sanne> xst: configure the keyboard shortcuts
[06:15] <Jucato> wow, so many answers lol
[06:16] <Buffy^> I cant belive I manage to get hlds up and running was a pint in the ass
[06:16] <MetaMorfoziS> k3b said the coding of some file names are invalid, and k3b unable to write it to dvd. So what proggram cvan rename all file in subdirs and subdirssubdirs...
[06:16] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[06:16] <xst> Thanks
[06:16] <kuto> fildo: can you check this please, why apache2 did not installed? => http://pastebin.ca/176361
[06:16] <Buffy^> paine*
[06:16] <Sanne> xst: settings/configure shortcuts, then you could switch the hotkeys for delete and move to trash, if you want (I did)
[06:16] <fildo> gimme a sec mate. just fixing own box
[06:18] <Sanne> kristina: the jack error shouldn't matter. It's for sound output, I have the same error in my wine. I just set the sound output to alsa. But I don't have cedega, so I don't know if that really applies.
[06:20] <dmd> Hi!
[06:20] <kuto> seems like konversation chat doesnt have another tab feature?
[06:21] <dmd> Why is it that configure doesn't find my version.h when I have installed all the kernel source/headers packages for my kernel version?
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> kuto: ! you have old konversation
[06:21] <lwells> How can I find out if my computer is connected to another on the network??
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> http://konversation.kde.org upgrade it, and try tree view
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i think it is the best view
[06:22] <^rob^> hi
[06:22] <^rob^> i'm having problems wiht nvidia on kubuntu dapper
[06:22] <kuto> MetaMorfoziS: can i upgrade konversation using apt-get?
[06:22] <MetaMorfoziS> kuto just read that page.
[06:22] <dmd> I need to re-compile alsa but I can't because it says 'The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist'
[06:22] <dmd> but it does
[06:22] <MetaMorfoziS> (you able to compile from source, or add a repo to your sources.list and apt-get upgrade)
[06:22] <^rob^> x say that can;t find nvidia
[06:23] <Jucato> kuto: the new konversation (v 1.0) should have been in dapper-backports a few weeks ago, but due to some technical difficulties, it's still not there
[06:24] <Conhe> !wine
[06:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:25] <dmd> Is there a 'Ubuntu guide to re-compiling kernel dependant code' anywhere?
[06:25] <dmd> i.e re-compiling ALSA, NVIDIA driver etc.
[06:25] <kuto> ok i found it, i'll upgrade later after i download apache
[06:25] <kuto> tnx guys
[06:26] <^rob^> nvidia help?
[06:26] <dmd> rob: nope, my gfx is ok
[06:26] <dmd> I need to patch alsa
[06:27] <dmd> but I can't because I there doesn't seem to be a version.h with the ubuntu kernel source archive
[06:28] <dmd> package, even
[06:28] <dmd> :)
[06:28] <dmd> I think I've installed all the kernel source/ headers packages I needed
[06:28] <Sanne> dmd: you would at least need the headers for your kernel, shoulde be something like: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:29] <^rob^> mp3 ?
[06:29] <Sanne> dmd: oh
[06:29] <^rob^> what do i need to make amarok play mp3?
[06:30] <Jucato> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Tal> well
[06:30] <Tal> it worked.
[06:30] <Tal> :)
[06:30] <lcohen> good morning all, quick question about wine...the program installs and runs ok if I do a sudo wine program.exe but how can I create a shortcut so I can run it under my user from kde?
[06:30] <Tal> WinXP doesnt like the other hardrive though
[06:31] <Tal> everytime i log in i have to go to device manager and uninstal it ;P
[06:31] <Tal> still, it works so meh.
[06:31] <usuarioJJ> lcohen:You have to put the link like this:
[06:32] <zerofool2005> whats the deafult root pass for kubuntu?
[06:32] <ketsugi> same as your user pass
[06:32] <Tal> the one for you user pass
[06:32] <lcohen> usuariojj:  I didn't see the link
[06:32] <fildo> hey how can i stop apt-get looking for setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar all the time
[06:32] <usuarioJJ> kubuntu does not have default ROOT pass! It is blank!
[06:33] <usuarioJJ> "/usr/bin/wine /path///yourapp.exe"
[06:33] <zerofool2005> "Login Failed"
[06:34] <lcohen> with three "///"?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> direct logging in as root is disabled.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> use 'sudo' and your first created users password
[06:34] <Sanne> Tal: hey, good to hear it worked
[06:34] <Tal> :)
[06:35] <Tal> i keep getting a found new hardware loop though
[06:35] <Tal> its really really annoying
[06:35] <Tal> its trying to install the other Hardrive (in this case the linux HD)
[06:35] <usuarioJJ> nooo i put that in case you have subdir on your path, like this:"/subdir1/subdir2/subdir3/yourapp.exe"
[06:35] <Tal> it says cant instal but then continues to keep trying
[06:36] <Sanne> Tal: heh, just like windows ;)
[06:36] <lcohen> thanks usu, the only issue is I can only seem to get it working if I run it as root
[06:36] <Tal> yep
[06:36] <dmd> Before I install a new alsa driver, do I need to rid of the old one somehow?
[06:36] <Tal> stupid POS
[06:36] <Tal> if companies could get their act together and realease the code for direct X etc
[06:37] <Tal> win would be reduntant for me
[06:37] <usuarioJJ> well... The, you have to use sudo managers, like su, kdesu, and gksu before invoking Wine
[06:37] <Sanne> Tal: what drives are this? ide, sata, scsi?
[06:37] <Tal> ide
[06:37] <Tal> oo i got a nice easy question as well.
[06:37] <Sanne> Tal: funny windows can't install it. But maybe it shouldn't anyway, since it's for your linux?
[06:37] <Sanne> ok
[06:37] <Tal> when i click a link in IRC
[06:37] <lcohen> i figred as much, i just coouldn't figure out how to do it with a desktop link
[06:38] <Tal> it opens with Konqueror which is a POS
[06:38] <Tal> how do i get it to open in default firefox
[06:38] <Sanne> Tal: maybe youcan configure it in your irc client? I use xchat, it has such an option.
[06:38] <Tal> im using Konversation
[06:39] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: System Settings --> KDE applications
[06:39] <Sanne> Tal: sorry, can't help with that one then.
[06:39] <TheGateKeeper> Tal look in there & set your default browser
[06:39] <usuarioJJ> try first with run... box to see if it works, Or, you can try it in a terminal. As i said, the call first invokes the su, and when you insert the right pass, it continues.
[06:39] <Tal> system settings?
[06:39] <Tal> i have system and utilities.
[06:40] <Sanne> TheGateKeeper: ah, nice one :)
[06:40] <usuarioJJ> Tal: System
[06:40] <Tal> whats the program. havent got kde application
[06:40] <supernix>  /uptime
[06:40] <supernix> Uptime: 20 days, 10 hours and 12 minutes
[06:40] <Sanne> Tal: Menu, System Settings, Kde Components, Default Applications
[06:40] <zorglu_> Tal: kde components
[06:40] <zorglu_> as Sanne said :)
[06:40] <Sanne> :)
[06:41] <Tal> ah sorry being dumb
[06:41] <Tal> one moment
[06:41] <TheGateKeeper> Sanne: explained better than me :-)
[06:41] <Sanne> TheGateKeeper: ah, naah, didn't even knew that one before you mentioned it :)
[06:42] <Tal> ha
[06:42] <Tal> sweet guys
[06:42] <Tal> :)
[06:42] <Tal> that was really bugging me
[06:42] <Sanne> :)
[06:42] <Tal> its silly stuff like that that bothers you huh
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> that's why I found it, it was driving me nuts :-)
[06:42] <Tal> lol
[06:43] <Sanne> Tal: in Kde there are so many settings and options, and hidden settings and options, I'm finding new ones almost every day :)
[06:43] <Tal> :P
[06:43] <Tal> its the only one i ever used.
[06:43] <Tal> not tryed gnome.
[06:43] <Tal> tried*
[06:43] <Tal> anyone had problems with flash player here?
[06:43] <lcohen> I think I figured it out, stupod /home/user/.wine permissions :)
[06:43] <lcohen> thanks!
[06:43] <Tal> i installed the normal one flash-nonfree or something like that.
[06:43] <Tal> and most things worked.
[06:43] <ant_knee> hello ppl, I have a few issues with Kde-Wallet? the app that won't die
[06:43] <Sanne> Tal: Gnome is supposed to be simpler, but on the other hand you can't configure so much (I think). So to each his/her own, nice to have choice :)
[06:44] <usuarioJJ> You're welcome! Tell me which version of Wine Are You running?
[06:44] <Tal> but there were some things that just wouldnt work. So instead of the nonfree one i tried the ACTUAL adobe one.
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: if the site is using flash 8 or 9 it won't work, we still have to wait for that
[06:44] <Tal> Ah that will be why
[06:44] <Tal> you know there IS a workaround :)
[06:44] <Tal> perhaps i can help you.
[06:44] <Tal> it works to a certain extent anyways.
[06:45] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: which is?
[06:45] <Tal> try this
[06:45] <Tal> kate ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[06:45] <Tal> then change
[06:45] <Tal> Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68:$
[06:45] <Tal> to
[06:45] <Tal> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r68:$
[06:45] <Tal> it works to a certain extent, but i found it a little buggy.
[06:46] <ant_knee> useful flash tip, thanks
[06:46] <Tal> :)
[06:46] <Tal> if you try it before you change it you will see what i mean.
[06:46] <Tal> try this link
[06:46] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: cool, the other way I have herd is to install a browser into wine then install flash etc
[06:47] <Tal> http://tenaciousdmovie.com/
[06:47] <Tal> that wont work at all
[06:47] <Tal> but change it to 9 it does,
[06:47] <Tal> but
[06:47] <Tal> i have some problems with the buttons and missing animations so *shrugs*
[06:47] <Sanne> Tal: well, youstill have a version 7 flash player, so ...
[06:48] <Tal> heh yeah
[06:48] <^rob^> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:48] <^rob^> aa
[06:48] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:48] <Tal> but it is a little work around so it helps a bit
[06:48] <Sanne> Tal: but interesting tip anyways, so thanks :)
[06:48] <zerofool2005> Setting custom ip to 127.0.0.1
[06:48] <zerofool2005> custom_ip_resolved = 127.0.0.1
[06:48] <zerofool2005> <3
[06:48] <Tal> :)
[06:48] <^rob^> damn
[06:48] <^rob^> i can't find libxine-extracodecs - where is it? i have universe and multiverse enabled
[06:49] <Sanne> Tal: some people even run a win32 firefox in wine with the latest flash player. I'm not that desperate, though ;)
[06:49] <Tal> indeed.
[06:49] <Tal> i havent even tried wine
[06:49] <Tal> as i said. the online game i play works in linux
[06:49] <Tal> so its sweet
[06:49] <Tal> but the new one wont.. :(
[06:49] <Sanne> ^rob^: try to look at packages.ubuntu.com, it tells you the exact package name and the repository you need enebled.
[06:50] <Sanne> someday I will even learn to type...
[06:50] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:50] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> ^rob^: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28xine-ui.29
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: thanx for the flash tip, I have made a note :-)
[06:53] <Tal> *smiles* np. you guys have helped me out loads over the past month
[06:53] <Tal> nice to actually have at least a semi useful tip
[06:54] <beermunk> hey all
[06:54] <beermunk> how are we today?
[06:54] <Tal> happy now, yourself?
[06:55] <Sanne> beermunk: well, nice weather, fresh air, and holiday... so we are quite fine, today ;)
[06:56] <Tal> ok with that im off. thanks again for all the help!
[06:56] <Sanne> bye Tal
[06:58] <gpettit> I have a question regarding mkinitramfs.  Anyone up for it?
[06:58] <ant_knee> hi there, can someone give me some advice about howto get rid of kde-wallet or disable it - I have apt-get removed it but it will not stop popping up
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> ant_knee,  it has settings you can set.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> to disable what you dont like about it.
[06:59] <ant_knee> where to config?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> try its menus on the systemtray icon
[06:59] <gof_> oo
[06:59] <gof_> ciao a tutti
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> or run kwallet
[06:59] <Sanne> ant_knee: menu, Security & Privacy
[06:59] <Dr_Willis>  kwalletmanager
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:59] <gof_> ciao a tutti
[07:00] <gof_> ou ce qualcuno?!!!????
[07:00] <ant_knee> i ve only a blank page in Security & privacy
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> right click --> configure kwallet. :P logical place to put the menu item.
[07:00] <gof_> oooooooooooooo
[07:00] <gof_> what the fuck
[07:00] <gof_> is there anyone
[07:00] <gof_> ?????????????????????????
[07:00] <ant_knee> kanthony@mute002:~$ kwallet
[07:00] <ant_knee> bash: kwallet: command not found
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> gof_,  Huh?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis>  kwalletmanager
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> kwallet<tab> :P
[07:01] <ant_knee> kwalletmanager
[07:02] <ubuntu> Hey! Im running ubuntu and using grub and i installed windows on another partition and now i have to make grub the booatloader again. I can also add that i have chrooted into my kubuntu partition and i can use grub but how
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> update-grub
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> should work.
[07:04] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:04] <zerofool2005> kopete owns :D
[07:04] <arcasa> Kopete isn't working for me!
[07:04] <ubuntu> ill try that
[07:04] <arcasa> It won't stop connecting.
[07:06] <zerofool2005> spell check on msn :D
[07:06] <zerofool2005> what most people need to use
[07:06] <zerofool2005> MMM food
[07:07] <NthDegree> anyone know if there's a memory leak problem in KDE specific to edgy?
[07:08] <NthDegree> I was left with 10MB ram free out fo my 1GB last night :|
[07:08] <NthDegree> out of*
[07:08] <|lostbyte|> hi !
[07:08] <binaryflow> Upgraded from 386 to 686 kernel yesterday for dual core - now my wireless card won't work
[07:08] <binaryflow> Going back to 386 kernel still won't work.
[07:08] <Sanne> NthDegree: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1, as those people are running edgy
[07:08] <binaryflow> any ideas?
[07:08] <|lostbyte|> anyway to netinstall with out a floopy drive ?
[07:08] <|lostbyte|> :(
[07:09] <Dodger> interesting problem here... i'm behind a non-transparent squid proxy, and adept is unable to download anything when i run it via kdesu - works fine if i run it from the terminal via sudo though. any ideas?
[07:09] <NthDegree> good point Sanne, although I kinda wish they had a #kubuntu+1 too :p
[07:09] <NthDegree> Dodger, KDE proxy settings perhaps :|
[07:10] <Sanne> NthDegree: yeah, I just looked if there's such a channel heh :)
[07:10] <NthDegree> maybe you've set up the bits for the terminal and non-KDE bits
[07:10] <Dodger> NthDegree:  i've tried setting them manually and even via an automatic configuration script - doesn't seem to have any effect
[07:10] <zorglu_> !info amarok
[07:10] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[07:11] <dhq> i used kontact mail client  and got all my mails  in my pc but it cleared all my mail on the internet now all the mail is in my pc only nothing on the internet how do i get it back
[07:12] <NthDegree> dhq, it's meat to do that
[07:13] <NthDegree> if you didn't want that then you should have selected "keep messages on server"
[07:13] <dhq> NthDegree: how do it get all the mails back on the net
[07:13] <NthDegree> you can't
[07:13] <amarokker> Hi, i am being asked to install libvisual4.0- but its not installable according to synaptic
[07:14] <NthDegree> you should have used IMAP instead of POP3 if you wanted them to stay on the net and NEVER touch the PC itself
[07:14] <binaryflow> Has anyone seen a wireless card stop working after a kernel upgrade?
[07:14] <amarokker> how do i get around this prob?
[07:14] <binaryflow> Internal Intel card on a Dell Latitude D620 laptop
[07:14] <Sanne> amarokker: what's the error message? please paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:14] <dhq> NthDegree: my mail is on a linux server so there must be a way to upload all back
[07:14] <binaryflow> Worked great until moving to 686 kernel
[07:14] <NthDegree> amarokker, try this: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:14] <NthDegree> usually solves those kinds of things
[07:14] <amarokker> ok. am trying. wait a bit- if it doesnt work, i'll paste the error back on.
[07:15] <dhq> binaryflow: i am on a dell latitude d505 i upgraded my kernel and my wifi is proper
[07:15] <lordhelmet> so here's a fun quirk: when i boot, both my cpu's are using the ondemand governor, but upon logging into to kde it switches cpu0 to the performance governor
[07:15] <NthDegree> lmao dhq, you used POP3, you set it up to delete the mail off the server when it gets to your PC
[07:15] <binaryflow> so why would mine stop working?
[07:15] <binaryflow> Going back to the old kernel still won't work.
[07:15] <NthDegree> just select to keep email on the server and wait for the next batch of email
[07:15] <NthDegree> that's all you can do lol
[07:16] <lordhelmet> can anybody think of why this would happen?
[07:16] <dhq> NthDegree: but all the mails are on my pc
[07:16] <Sanne> amarokker: 0.4 seems to be in edgy and dapper-backports. In dapper there's version 0.2
[07:16] <|lostbyte|> !netinstall
[07:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:17] <NthDegree> dhq, I know that
[07:17] <amarokker>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[07:17] <NthDegree> dhq, You downloaded the mail to your PC, then erased it from the server
[07:17] <Sanne> amarokker: 0.4 seems to be in edgy and dapper-backports. In dapper there's version 0.2
[07:17] <ant_knee> sorry - distracted there - thanks I disabled kdwallet but I can't seem get smb4k top save default password which is what I really want to do
[07:17] <NthDegree> that is how standard POP3 works
[07:17] <amarokker> yeah, Sanne- so is there a repo that'd work with dapper/?
[07:17] <Sanne> amarokker: firstly, what are you trying to install?
[07:17] <amarokker> amarok.
[07:17] <dhq> NthDegree: i am screwed :(
[07:18] <NthDegree> why dhq?
[07:18] <Sanne> amarokker: I suspect a version not in the official dapper repos?
[07:18] <zerofool2005> !mp3
[07:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:18] <dhq> i need all the mails on myserver but now all in my pc
[07:18] <amarokker> and thats the msg i get when i try it- using apt-get -f install doesnt work- according to --fix-missing there's nothing wrong. yeah...got the source list from source-o-matic-
[07:18] <dhq> NthDegree: i need all the mails on myserver but now all in my pc
[07:18] <NthDegree> dhq, just choose to keep mail on the server so you know for next time
[07:18] <amarokker> lemme remove the line for the cipherfunk repos and cehck back
[07:18] <NthDegree> then they'll stay on the server
[07:19] <|lostbyte|> :)
[07:19] <NthDegree> dhq, you should have read up on e-mail clients if you didn't know what they did :|
[07:19] <dhq> NthDegree: where is that option i dont see it
[07:19] <Sanne> amarokker: then it can be that there are dependencies not covered with the official repos. I'd like to show you how you can find out if there's a version you can install from a repos. Ok?
[07:19] <NthDegree> 1 second
[07:19] <amarokker> Sanne: yeah. sure. thanks.
[07:20] <ant_knee> any body fancy helping with this kde-wallet/smb4k issue
[07:20] <lordhelmet> anybody? kde login sets cpu0 governor to performance? it will be fun!
[07:20] <NthDegree> dhq, the option is called "Leave fetched messages on server"
[07:20] <Sanne> amarokker: go to packages.ubuntu.com, type libvisual in the search box, set distribution dropdown to "any", and search.
[07:21] <NthDegree> dhq, "Leave fetched messages on server" is on your receiving e-mail settings
[07:21] <Sanne> amarokker: tell me when ready
[07:21] <|lostbyte|> NthDegree, so they will be marked as unread even after download ?
[07:22] <amarokker> sanne- got the results page you were right- it is in dapper backports
[07:22] <dhq> NthDegree: i dont see it
[07:22] <|lostbyte|> dhq, look throught the server options of that client.
[07:22] <Sanne> amarokker: exactly. So, now you need to enable dapper-backports. I can paste the line I have in my sources.list, if you want.
[07:23] <amarokker> Yeah, please. That'd be helpful.
[07:23] <instructor> Ahh I love pretty fonts
[07:23] <instructor> Anyone else have a kopete update?
[07:23] <NthDegree> |lostbyte| no it copies the email when you do that
[07:23] <Sanne> amarokker: there you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24012
[07:23] <NthDegree> |lostbyte| so you have 1 copy on server and 1 on the PC
[07:23] <rafael> wine!
[07:24] <amarokker> Thanks a lot sane- will let you know if it works :D
[07:24] <Conhe> wine!
[07:24] <Conhe> !wine
[07:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:24] <|lostbyte|> NthDegree, intresting..
[07:24] <dhq> |lostbyte|: cant see it
[07:24] <ronnylinux> hi guys how can i install a webcam
[07:25] <Sanne> amarokker: I would keep not what you installed from backports... in case you get problems when upgrading to edgy some day, so you could uninstall them if needed.
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !webcam
[07:25] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:27] <dhq> NthDegree: cant see it
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> "leave fetched messages on server"
[07:27] <dhq> |lostbyte|: where is it
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> under receiving tab.
[07:28] <dhq> |lostbyte|: there is no receving tab in kontact i guess
[07:28] <|lostbyte|> huh ? kontact :S
[07:29] <|lostbyte|> dhq, --------------> kmail
[07:30] <dhq> |lostbyte|: same .........
[07:30] <ubuntu> Hey! I have ubuntu and grub installed but when i reinstalled windows it overrided grub. I have now botted with a live cd and i have chrooted to my ubuntuinstall and i have tried update-grub but no luck when i reboot the grub window doesnt appear instead windows boots... any ideas
[07:31] <Sanne> ubuntu: this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:32] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:32] <Sanne> ubuntu: you're welcome
[07:33] <ronnylinux> does anybody can help me?, i want to install my webcam, it is deluxe, i don't know how to do it, because i have the driver but is for windows
[07:34] <dhq> |lostbyte|: http://www.kontact.org
[07:35] <|lostbyte|> It says clearly there, --> The mail component is provided by KMail,
[07:36] <ronnylinux> does anybody can help me?, i want to install my webcam, it is deluxe, i don't know how to do it, because i have the driver but is for windows
[07:37] <sudhi> tell me anybody how to install firefox on kubuntu
[07:37] <dhq> !kontact
[07:37] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1547 kB, installed size 3300 kB
[07:37] <dhq> !kmail
[07:37] <ubotu> kmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 2079 kB, installed size 6572 kB
[07:37] <ronnylinux> ubotu apt-get install firefox
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get install firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <ronnylinux> ubotu just type this  in the konsole apt-get install firefox
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about just type this  in the konsole apt-get install firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <|lostbyte|> lol
[07:42] <sudhi> how to enable root account
[07:44] <trappist> sudhi: basically you don't.  it can be done, but it's highly not-recommended.
[07:48] <[GuS] > how to disable? :P
[07:51] <main2> !howtoenablesuperrootuseraccountplease
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about howtoenablesuperrootuseraccountplease - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <main2> shit.. typo
[07:52] <sudhi> how to run the command as root while normal login
[07:53] <kuto> how do i view my webcam on kubuntu its in => /dev/video0
[07:53] <main2> sudhi: sudo -u yourusername command
[07:53] <main2> kuto: try videolan
[07:53] <main2> apt-get install vlc
[07:54] <main2> when you click open, you can select a v4l device (/dev/video0) or a pvr ..
[07:55] <kuto> can i stop apt-get that is currently updating and resume it at a later time?
[07:56] <sudhi> i have downloaded firefox gz file.... how to install
[07:57] <[GuS] > People... why installing nvidia-glx in Kubuntu, changes the fonts size...?
[07:57] <[GuS] > because i still having 9 as size
[07:57] <[GuS] > but the fonts became more small
[07:57] <[GuS] > (this happen in Edgy)
[07:58] <Pensacola> I'll be taking my linux pc to a lan party for the first time next month :)
[07:58] <kuto> lan party?
[07:59] <klerfayt> [GuS] : that is because nvidia drivers set dpi to something different it was before
[07:59] <main2> a local area network party, .. a place where geeks / retards meet up :P
[07:59] <[GuS] > and how to change that?
[07:59] <[GuS] > because this in dapper does not happen
[08:00] <klerfayt> [GuS] : you could use   Option "DPI" "96 x 96"
[08:00] <klerfayt> [GuS] : you know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:00] <[GuS] > ok, thanks klerfayt taking note of that ;)
[08:00] <[GuS] > yes
[08:01] <[GuS] > just have that doub
[08:01] <[GuS] > that happen before on breezy once
[08:01] <[GuS] > thanks :)
[08:01] <kuto> main2: and what do you do with that lan party?
[08:02] <main2> kuto: you really wanne know ?
[08:02] <[GuS] > inside nvidia driver section right klerfayt ? or could be just standalone?
[08:03] <klerfayt> [GuS] : where you put that famous option "NoLogo"
[08:03] <[GuS] > right
[08:03] <[GuS] > so there... ok
[08:03] <kuto> main2: sure, why not..
[08:03] <main2> you really really really really really wanne know?
[08:05] <alberto> ciao!
[08:06] <kuto> where can i edit eth0?
[08:07] <main2> ifconfig...
[08:07] <main2> eth1 is actually a device node, you shouldnt edit it
[08:07] <main2> just use ifconfig
[08:08] <main2> ifconfig man << do this first
[08:08] <kuto> i can edit eth0 file in redhat, its not possible in kubuntu?
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> kuto, you can
[08:10] <Samuli^> does k3b support lightscribe?_
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> kmenu > system settings > network settings :)
[08:11] <zerofool2005> hmm  just install gimp with apt-get install gimp
[08:11] <kuto> how about in cli?
[08:11] <zerofool2005> but i cant find it
[08:12] <Pensacola> lan party is fun :)
[08:12] <Pensacola> gaming and boozing for an entire weekend
[08:14] <SeventhOmen> Has anyone moved from Suse to Kubuntu?
[08:15] <|lostbyte|> !netinstall
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:21] <i4get2> im familiar with suse
[08:25] <Makro___________> i `m getting disconnected every time at random lapsus of time, it can be something wrong with my pppoeconf?
[08:30] <kuto> main2: when you click open, you can select a v4l device (/dev/video0) or a pvr .. <= where can i find this?
[08:36] <kuto> main2: ???
[08:37] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:37] <main2> kuto: have you installed videolan?
[08:37] <kuto> yes
[08:38] <kuto> Setting up vlc-plugin-alsa (0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) ...
[08:38] <kuto> Setting up vlc (0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) ...
[08:38] <main2> have you started vlc?
[08:39] <main2> click on 'open'  or eject
[08:39] <main2> then you see a tab 'video 4 linux' and 'pvr'
[08:40] <kuto> http://pastebin.ca/176520
[08:40] <kuto> where can i see that link?
[08:41] <kuto> i saw a VLC media player..is that the one?
[08:47] <main2> yes
[08:49] <kuto> its blurred
[08:49] <main2> focus ur webcam
[08:49] <main2> turn the lens..
[08:54] <xfile> Sera a tutti
[08:56] <jpiccolo> well i guess i was dumb
[08:59] <jpiccolo> i am booted up with "nv" in my xorg, is there a way to run nvidia drivers and -27
[09:01] <|lostbyte|> !find mini
[09:01] <ubotu> Found: aspell-gl-minimos, minicom, python-minimal, python2.4-minimal, wgalician-minimos (and 16 others)
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> !find iso
[09:02] <ubotu> Found: bison, bison-doc, iso-codes, libpisock++0c2, libpisock-dev (and 29 others)
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> Is there a mini iso version on kubuntu ?
[09:02] <jpiccolo> a mini iso of what?
[09:03] <|lostbyte|> jpiccolo, the installation live cd ?
[09:03] <jpiccolo> that is an iso, yes
[09:03] <Sanne> bye all
[09:04] <jpiccolo> i dont know what you mean by mini though
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> jpiccolo, lolz, a less then minimal install cd
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> like a kubuntu version of DSL
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> Same small linux.
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> dame*
[09:05] <jpiccolo> oh, no i dont think so
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> :(
[09:05] <octan> ???
[09:06] <Riddell> |lostbyte|: the live CD only just fits on 1 CD, we can't make it any smaller
[09:06] <ninHer> hi all
[09:06] <Riddell> |lostbyte|: but see netboot install on KubuntuFiles
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> huh..k
[09:06] <Electrolyte> Can anyone tell me what gam_server is in the process list?
[09:06] <octan> Riddell, Yes you could make it smaller :P make it fit on a usb stick
[09:06] <Electrolyte> I'm having some trouble with it.
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> octan, yes thats what i am talking about.
[09:07] <jpiccolo> !gam_server
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gam_server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <octan> !mythtv
[09:07] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[09:07] <octan> !mythtv&xgl
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mythtv&xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Riddell> Electrolyte: it's for wathcing for changed files, we're getting rid of it in edgy
[09:08] <Electrolyte> The only time my system has locked up is because of it.
[09:08] <jpiccolo> when is edgy due out
[09:08] <Riddell> see EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:09] <jpiccolo> Riddell, do you know of a way i can run kernel -27 and nvidia drivers
[09:09] <JohnFlux> Riddell: i keep finding small things I'd like to fix in kubuntu
[09:09] <JohnFlux> Riddell: how do i get a cvs/svn account
[09:09] <octan> |lostbyte|, read this
[09:09] <octan> http://feraga.com/
[09:09] <JohnFlux> Riddell: or it doesn't work like that?
[09:09] <Riddell> JohnFlux: we don't use svn
[09:10] <Riddell> JohnFlux: generally you edit the package and send us a debdiff
[09:10] <JohnFlux> doesn't sound very open :/
[09:10] <chavo> JohnFlux, it's about as open as you can get
[09:11] <JohnFlux> chavo: um, allowing outsiders to get an account would be more open
[09:11] <Riddell> JohnFlux: well once you've shown you can do packaging you can get approved for ubuntu-dev and are allowed to upload to anything in universe
[09:11] <JohnFlux> Riddell: not packaging
[09:11] <JohnFlux> Riddell: kubuntu specific programs
[09:12] <|lostbyte|> octan, nice link, but i was looking to install kubuntu from a usb stick. but i only have a 512 MB stick.
[09:12] <|lostbyte|> Ref to : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:12] <Riddell> JohnFlux: new programmes or existing ones?  most of the existing ones we use bzr revision control, managed on launchpad.net
[09:12] <octan> well its a linux install :P
[09:12] <JohnFlux> Riddell: well like the language install
[09:12] <JohnFlux> Riddell: or the changes made to k3b
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> octan, but the size of image is greater
[09:14] <Riddell> JohnFlux: language selector (and there's plenty that needs improved in that, not least integration with the kcontrol modules) is  bzr branch http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/bzr/language-selector/language-selector--mvo/
[09:14] <octan> make your own mini img then :P
[09:14] <octan> can t help you more
[09:14] <Riddell> JohnFlux: k3b is an upstream package,  apt-get source k3b  will get you the source, our patches are in debian/patches
[09:15] <|lostbyte|> #cough#
[09:15] <JohnFlux> [20:15]  --> You have joined the channel #cough# (n=JohnFlux@konversation/developer/JohnFlux).
[09:16] <D4rkly> how do i find out what pci address my video card is on
[09:16] <Riddell> JohnFlux: we're all sitting in #kubuntu-devel if you have patches or suggestions
[09:16] <JohnFlux> D4rkly: lspci, but why?
[09:18] <D4rkly> caues i need to edit my xorg as i have moved my video card to a different slot to reduce heat
[09:22] <D4rkly> how can i pause the output of lspci after each page
[09:23] <D4rkly> my video card was at pci3:0:0 i need to find at which address it is now
[09:23] <GeneralZod> D4rkly: less lspci
[09:24] <GeneralZod> D4rkly:Whoops - meant "lspci | less"
[09:24] <Monchito> buenas
[09:24] <Alextremo> Hello Monchito
[09:25] <Alextremo> Only English
[09:25] <Monchito> como estamos
[09:25] <Monchito> ok man
[09:25] <Monchito> thanks
[09:25] <Alextremo> you're welcome
[09:27] <D4rkly> that doesnt seem to show me the bus address of my card eg pci 3:0:0
[09:28] <kubuntu> hola
[09:28] <Monchito> hello kubuntu
[09:28] <Xanith> What is a good mp3 to wav converter?
[09:29] <manu-root> good mp3 to wav -> soundKonverter
[09:29] <kubuntu> and what is is a good video editor (and also a video converter)?
[09:30] <Xanith> Thanks!
[09:30] <manu-root> hmm, maybe kino, sorry, I don't use it
[09:31] <D4rkly> how do i find out which bud id my nvidia card is on ?
[09:31] <manu-root> kino, for video
[09:31] <kubuntu> i m downloading it
[09:31] <D4rkly> sorry i mean bus id
[09:31] <manu-root> D4kly, have you try lspci on your konsole?
[09:31] <kubuntu> thank you
[09:31] <D4rkly> yep but id doesnt seem to show it
[09:32] <jpiccolo> woot  87298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17459.467 FPS    on 2.6.15-27-386
[09:32] <zorglu_> jpiccolo: impressive :)
[09:32] <manu-root> hmm, and Device Manager, witch comes with kubuntu
[09:33] <jpiccolo> yeah, i want to try to get sli in linx should do alot better
[09:33] <jpiccolo> anyone know of a better linux GPU benchmark?
[09:36] <D4rkly> im in terminal so if i use lspci i cant see all the info. all i need is the bus address of my nvidia card eg PCI3:0:0
[09:36] <danbuntu> how do i use xxmc & xxvm drivers for kaffeine?
[09:38] <manu-root> sorry dude, I can't help you, I think you will find this on your x11 config file
[09:38] <D4rkly> i need to find it to put in xorg thats why im in terminal
[09:41] <manu-root> well, too bad D4kly leave, the bus ID is in xorg.conf, simple like a 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:41] <octan> !cluster
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <octan> !clusterssh
[09:41] <ubotu> clusterssh: administer multiple ssh or rsh shells simultaneously. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.18.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 160 kB
[09:42] <octan> blah
[09:42] <miguel> Buenas, para el chat en espaol
[09:42] <fdoving> !es
[09:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:44] <miguel> #kubuntu-es
[09:45] <fdoving> miguel: /join #kubuntu-es
[09:55] <Monchito> i got a question'
[09:56] <manu-root> say it Monchito
[09:56] <the-only-real-sh> why adept manager removes kubuntu-destop package everytime i remove a package
[09:57] <Monchito> how i do to install a package like karamba in kubuntu?
[09:57] <kyaneos> why kubuntu developers are using PyKDE for most applications??
[09:57] <zorglu_> the-only-real-sh: it is not a problem. it does it because kubuntu-desktop is a metapacakge (aka a virtual package grouping a lot of other(
[09:57] <manu-root> kubuntu-desktop is a virtual package, provides a set of packages
[09:57] <GeneralZod> kyaneos:Fast development time, I guess.
[09:57] <kyaneos> mm ok
[09:57] <kyaneos> GeneralZod: thnx
[09:58] <kyaneos> :)
[09:58] <Monchito> ok man i understand thanks a lot
[09:58] <the-only-real-sh> that means? it will continue to remove the desktop files everytime i remove a package?
[09:58] <manu-root> monchito, do a "sudo apt-get install superkaramba"
[09:58] <GeneralZod> kyaneos:You're welcome :)
[09:58] <the-only-real-sh> and i shouldn't bother?
[09:59] <zorglu_> the-only-real-sh: you can safely ignore this. it is a small inconvenient you have to accept to make kubuntu easy to install :)
[09:59] <manu-root> no, just the meta-package is removed
[09:59] <the-only-real-sh> yeah, ok.  thought so :)
[09:59] <zorglu_> the-only-real-sh: if you look at the pacakage description, it is writen in it that it is safe to remove
[09:59] <GeneralZod> the-only-real-sh:kubuntu-desktop is basically an "empty" package which just says - install this long list of packages :) Removing it should have no harmful side effects.
[09:59] <jackle> guys.. please remember to in the next release.. to de-select the "use custom margins" for paper sizes in printers
[10:00] <Monchito> i have a test today about kubuntu and debian
[10:00] <manu-root> alright
[10:00] <the-only-real-sh> oh ok. i look for the description. thankx
[10:00] <fdoving> jackle: please make a bugreport at  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[10:03] <darknesss> in case there are kubuntu maintainers in here...
[10:03] <darknesss> please add vpnc to the default installation!
[10:04] <fdoving> won't happen for edgy atleast.
[10:04] <fdoving> darknesss: please make a bugreport/wishlist at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[10:12] <jackle> bug reported :)
[10:16] <ubuntu_> I am trying to install kubuntu on a raid 0 SATA. I installed dmraid, created my partitions with cfdisk, I can see all of them on the raid but when I reboot, kubuntu starts with it can't mount the / filesystem, any idea ?
[10:17] <tcw> I'm starrting to tip over to this distro
[10:17] <Kr[4] t05> Bah. ><
[10:23] <klerfayt> what's the default usb-mouse samplerate in dapper?
[10:25] <Zaire> !mp3
[10:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:26] <MarcC> !chat
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[10:27] <tony_> hi guys.. i installed grub on my system , so now i have daulboot , both Ubuntu desktop and server.
[10:27] <tony_> how do i boot to server ???
[10:27] <tony_> what is the command that you use to enter Desktop from shell ???? :|
[10:27] <MarcC> startx?
[10:28] <tony_> ok
[10:28] <tony_> how do you run the server ??
[10:28] <tony_> dose server got any GUI ?
[10:28] <MarcC> what server do you have instaleld?
[10:28] <MarcC> server does not install a GUI
[10:28] <MarcC> !server
[10:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[10:28] <tony_> damn
[10:28] <MarcC> most people won't want a GUI running on a server, i guess that's why
[10:29] <MarcC> but you can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, I think
[10:29] <tony_> now how can i remove the server and get ride of Grup altogether
[10:29] <magical_trevsky> will this command transcode a wma file to an mp3? $ ffmpeg -i 01\ Track\ 1.wma  -acodec MP3 song.mp3
[10:29] <MarcC> that should get you a gui
[10:29] <MarcC> then you can run servers however you want
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> Is this ---------> j2re1.4 j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[10:29] <tony_> i see
[10:29] <MarcC> did you install the server on a different hard disk or partition?
[10:29] <tony_> on partition
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> all i need to get java running on firefox ?
[10:30] <MarcC> tony, I don't know the best way...maybe just re-format the partition and remove the GRUB entry, but maybe not
[10:31] <tony_> im new to linux, so i don't want to do that. or i have to reformat entire harddrive and install desktop from scratch
[10:31] <MarcC> you can just nuke the single partition if you want
[10:31] <zorglu_> !java
[10:31] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:31] <MarcC> then you won't have to reinstall anything
[10:32] <tony_> i can delete the partition that i have server, but then i have no clue what to do with grub
[10:32] <MarcC> !wherearemyshoes
[10:32] <Gabarit> hi all
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wherearemyshoes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <MarcC> darn
[10:32] <zorglu_> |lostbyte|: and another page from the intro book about common task :)
[10:32] <tony_> many entries in grub that make no sence , such as boot option with older kernel
[10:33] <MarcC> tony, grub just reads from this file: /boot/grub/menu.lst <--- open that in a text editor and remove the server entries
[10:33] <MarcC> you can remove the older kernel entries too, but it's probably best just to uninstall those old kernels through synaptic (IIRC)
[10:34] <tony_> thats the problme , there are no server entries there , atleast nothing that has the word SERVER
[10:34] <MarcC> tony_: maybe it was never listed in GRUB in the first place :)
[10:34] <zorglu_> tony_: dump the menu.lst into pastebin
[10:34] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:35] <tony_> no clue.. after installing , i get grub showing asking to select the OS, and all are same with only different version KERNEL
[10:35] <|lostbyte|> zorglu_, tx
[10:35] <MarcC> tony_: does the first entry bring you into a GUI or the command line?
[10:36] <tony_> COMAND line
[10:36] <tony_> command line
[10:36] <MarcC> so it sounds like it is booting into server :)
[10:37] <MarcC> (so you can run whatever server you want, no GUI)
[10:37] <MarcC> interesting
[10:37] <bedos> hello
[10:37] <MarcC> are you sure you installed the desktop at some point?
[10:38] <tony_> well maybe booting into server, i was under assumption it will boot in GUI so i can do some work
[10:38] <MarcC> well, I believe...*believe* lol...that you can have the full desktop installed if you just do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:39] <MarcC> I've never installed server before, but I think that's all it's missing.
[10:39] <TheWarlord> hello everyone
[10:39] <TheWarlord> Trying to install kubuntu from msdos.. with some tool unsuggesfully so far..
[10:39] <zorglu_> MarcC: the kernel of the desktop version is not the same too
[10:39] <tony_> well, i will try that . if that didn't work, hey , im pro in reformating and reinstalling ;)
[10:40] <tony_> thanks guys for the help
[10:40] <TheWarlord> anyon familiar with loadlin or grub or something..
[10:40] <MarcC> zorglu_: ok, didn't know that, maybe it will still allow the desktop to run?
[10:40] <MarcC> tony_: good luck, sorry you had to learn about server the hard way ;)
[10:40] <TheWarlord> since for some reason loadlin just keeps telling me the I should correct my 'root=' when it should be ramdisk install..
[10:41] <tony_> thanks.. atleast i learned something
[10:41] <zorglu_> MarcC: oh yep, it wont prevent the stuff to run.
[10:41] <tony_> see you guys later ")
[10:41] <MarcC> later :)
[10:41] <zorglu_> MarcC: just may run slower or something :)
[10:42] <MarcC> ok
[10:42] <MarcC> well, I finally got DVD Shrink to run in Wine...that was quite an experience :)
[10:43] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Why not use the dvdshrink made for Linux
[10:44] <MarcC> meow?
[10:44] <MarcC> where?
[10:44] <Hawkwind> MarcC: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net
[10:44] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Written by a good friend of mine.  I've done some extensive bug/beta testing on that when it first came out :)
[10:44] <MarcC> crazy, I had no idea about that
[10:44] <Hawkwind> MarcC: Though k9copy is a much better app now
[10:45] <TheWarlord> hmm
[10:45] <MarcC> yes, I tried k9copy last night but it wouldn't save an .iso to disk :\
[10:45] <MarcC> it opened k3b every time, which ruined 2 DVDs before I gave up
[10:46] <Ash-Fox> what the heck, I install apache, and I can't even connect to it on 127.0.0.1, but I see it in the proccess list
[10:46] <Dasnipa`> yar
[10:46] <main2> is it possible to 'easily' upgrade my kernel?
[10:46] <zorglu_> Ash-Fox: "netstat -tlp" and look for it to be sure
[10:47] <MarcC> main2: sure, most people do it all the time...
[10:47] <skreet> main2: yes. Just use Adept to get the new kernel. This is often done automatically during an upgrade
[10:47] <main2> Linux MLABC 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 8 19:55:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:47] <main2> doesnt look like its new.. =)
[10:47] <Ash-Fox> tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN     - <- tcp/ipv6... what?
[10:48] <MarcC> Friday september 8?
[10:48] <MarcC> that seems pretty new to me...?
[10:48] <skreet> Ash-Fox: that's listening for web requests on ipv6 interface, afaik
[10:48] <skreet> main2: Is that your uname -r output, or what?
[10:48] <Ash-Fox> skreet, yeah...
[10:48] <main2> skreet:  yes it is
[10:48] <skreet> Ash-Fox: Oh, you're wondering why? :) *shrug*
[10:48] <main2> no, its uname -a
[10:48] <zorglu_> Ash-Fox: and no ipv4 ?
[10:48] <Ash-Fox> yeah, none at all
[10:49] <main2> is 2.6.16 available? :/
[10:49] <zorglu_> Ash-Fox: hmm try 'telnet ::1 80'
[10:49] <main2> sorry 17
[10:49] <skreet> main2: Linux skreet-laptop 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686
[10:49] <skreet> is the latest build
[10:49] <MarcC> 2.6.15.27 is available
[10:50] <skreet> not sure what changed from 26->27, but no theres no .16 or .17 available for Kubuntu yet.
[10:50] <main2> hmmmm, a new driver i would like to use requires 2.6.17..
[10:51] <skreet> mian2 What driver?
[10:51] <skreet> wow, typing is fun
[10:52] <skreet> My msg to #kdevelop (no response): I'm getting an error during the configure step that says 'Couldn't find ncurses library'. I'm new to KDevelop, where should I configure library locations. libncurses.so -> libncurses.so.5.5 in my /lib directory.
[10:52] <visik7> skreet: you need headers
[10:53] <visik7> probably
[10:53] <skreet> visik7: Headers, .h?
[10:53] <skreet> visik7: ncurses.h is found, or so it says, lemme dig for it
[10:53] <visik7> yes libncurses5-dev
[10:53] <main2> skreet: ivtv
[10:53] <skreet> visik7: Oh, duh, lemme make sure thats installed :(
[10:53] <skreet> visik7: I feel stupid, is that okay? :)
[10:54] <skreet> visik7: Aha! It is installed :\
[10:54] <lcohen> hello all, I have a Dell 700m, I thought before it found my PCMCIA card ok, but now I am not too sure, in kinfocentre it says that it si not there, when I do a sudo modprobe pcmcia I get nothign in return, can anyone offer some direction?
[10:54] <visik7> dunno
[10:54] <lcohen> is not there = is not detected
[10:55] <ubuntu> 1111
[10:55] <skreet> lcohen: modprobe will return nothing when successful, for starters
[10:55] <skreet> lcohen: Does it show up in lspci?
[10:55] <ubuntu> bahhhhhhh
[10:55] <Help> how do i download the necessary plugins on kubuntu for mozilla?
[10:55] <lcohen> p.s. I have a bluetooth PCMCIA card which I am trying to get working
[10:55] <skreet> Help: You may want to look into www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:55] <skreet> lcohen: my experience with PCMCIA is limited, unfortunatly.
[10:55] <ubuntu> alguem fala portugues??????
[10:56] <lcohen> are there any commands which I could try to see if it is in fact talking to, and/or dectcing the pcmcia card I have installed?
[10:56] <ubuntu> pora
[10:56] <skreet> lcohen: Thats where you've got me, sorry.
[10:56] <lcohen> crap, lol
[10:56] <ubuntu> yes
[10:57] <Ash-Fox> Weird, something is blocking anything from binding port 80...
[10:57] <MarcC> ubuntu, falo um pouco :D
[10:57] <skreet> ubuntu, Su habla espanol? #kubuntu-es #ubuntu-es ... Might be a portugues one as well :)
[10:57] <ubuntu> s portugues
[10:57] <ubuntu> do brasil
[10:57] <skreet> Ash-Fox: Do you have a firewall installed?
[10:58] <Ash-Fox> Not that I know of
[10:58] <gnomefreak> how do i re-run the first setup wizard when first use kubuntu?
[10:58] <Ash-Fox> And firewall software usually doesn't block you from binding ports
[10:58] <skreet> Ash-Fox: Just a thought, I guess.
[10:58] <skreet> Ash-Fox: You're running whatever it is as root/
[10:58] <MarcC> ubuntu: #ubuntu-br
[10:59] <ubuntu> sim[] 
[10:59] <skaynet_> hola
[11:00] <skaynet_> alguien tiene los drivers de nVIDIA instalados?
[11:00] <skreet> MarcC: Damnit, you beat me to it. I didnt know that -br was the portugues one..
[11:00] <skreet> skaynet_: #kubuntu-es por espanol.
[11:00] <MarcC> heh ;)
[11:00] <skaynet_> ok
[11:01] <MarcC> well, it's brasilian portuguese anyway
[11:01] <skreet> MarcC: I gather theres a difference
[11:01] <skreet> MarcC: Hmm -es is almost empty :(
[11:01] <MarcC> yeah, can't remember what though
[11:01] <GeneralZod> gnomefreak:I think the setup wizard is called "kpersonalise"
[11:01] <skreet> MarcC: well, theres a significant difference between spanish and mexican spanish too..
[11:02] <gnomefreak> GeneralZod: it is i found it
[11:02] <GeneralZod> Whoops - "kpersonalizer"
[11:02] <MarcC> skreet: yeah, I'd imagine that slang and such (the meat and potatoes of IRC) are different anyway ;)
[11:02] <GeneralZod> gnomefreak:Cool :D
[11:02] <Ash-Fox> Well, this is weird, everyone can access my webserver externally, but I can't locally
[11:03] <Ash-Fox> not even when trying to use the external ips rather than the loopback
[11:04] <skreet> Ash-Fox: Apache? What's the Listen line say?
[11:04] <Ash-Fox> there is none, so it's using the default setting to bind to all ips on port 80.
[11:04] <skreet> wierd.
[11:04] <skreet> so http://127.0.0.1 doesn't return a website?
[11:05] <Ash-Fox> and yet, I can connect to it on my lan, by connecting to 192.168.1.9, but if I try that from the actual machine, it doesn't run.
[11:05] <Ash-Fox> no, 127.0.0.1 times out
[11:06] <silensius> bonjour
[11:06] <silensius> je viens juste d'installer kubuntu je n'ai pas xmms comment je dois faire
[11:07] <MarcC> silensius: #kubuntu-fr
[11:07] <silensius> thanks
[11:07] <MarcC> @+
[11:08] <omar> hello
[11:09] <omar> I am using this : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, to share a folder with a windows machine but I get an  error, I used to use it in kubuntu without a trouble, but I am now in ubuntu, what can I do
[11:09] <Help> anyone know how to speed up the startup of kubuntu?
[11:09] <skreet> MarcC, do you feel like a traffic cop for language channels? :)
[11:10] <skreet> Help: I dont find it very slow, but you might disable some services *shrug*...
[11:10] <main2> im trying to install a package but it says BREAK(install)
[11:10] <MarcC> skreet: yeah, it's kinda funny
[11:10] <omar> I am using this : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, to share a folder with a windows machine but I get an  error, I used to use it in kubuntu without a trouble, but I am now in ubuntu, what can I do
[11:10] <main2> it says that the package conflicts with ivtv-unstable-source
[11:10] <MarcC> Help, at what point is it slow?
[11:11] <main2> how do i fix a broken dependency / or a conflicting one?
[11:11] <Help> skreet how about the kubuntu equivalencies of disk defrag and error check
[11:11] <skreet> Help: Disk Defrag AFAIK is not necessary.
[11:11] <MarcC> main2: I always just "completely remove" the package in question, then install it...that works 95% of the time
[11:11] <skreet> Help: chkdsk is to check a filesystem, iirc
[11:12] <skreet> Help: I'm sorry, that's windows XP
[11:12] <skreet> Help: fsck.
[11:12] <skreet> Help: "Filesystem Check"
[11:12] <skreet> Help: That's the one... :P
[11:12] <main2> Marc: yeah, but i removed something by hand, guess that this is causing the problem
[11:12] <omar> I am using this : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, to share a folder with a windows machine but I get an  error, I used to use it in kubuntu without a trouble, but I am now in ubuntu, what can I do
[11:12] <main2> so i wonder, if i can fix the conflict :(
[11:12] <Help> skreet so none of those type of programs are on kubuntu to help speed upr or fix things?
[11:13] <MarcC> hm, maybe you can force the install of the new package, main2?
[11:13] <skreet> Help: Well, ext2/3 filesystems dont get as fragmented as older filesystems.
[11:13] <Help> anyone know how much RAM kubuntu uses?
[11:13] <MarcC> like apt-get -f
[11:13] <skreet> Help: and run fsck, but I doubt you have a filesystem problem.
[11:13] <skreet> Help: I think they recommened 256MB minimum, but I could be wrong.
[11:13] <skreet> Help: If you have an older system KDE might not be for you :\ It's rather system intensive, I think.
[11:14] <MasterEvil`Lapto> Gettys are the virtual consoles right? In Kubuntu Edgy, even those i commented those out, they are still loading.. I have a bunch of gettys in my process list
[11:15] <heinkel_111> from a console login screen, how do i go to normal KDE graphical desktop login?\
[11:15] <MarcC> startx?
[11:15] <MasterEvil`Lapto> startx
[11:15] <heinkel_111> i oinly know how to go the other way
[11:15] <heinkel_111> ah thx
[11:16] <MarcC> now you know how to go both ways
[11:16] <MarcC> :D
[11:16] <MasterEvil`Lapto> if you mean virtual console then it's Alt+F7 or whatever
[11:16] <MarcC> ooh, yeah, ctrl+alt+f7
[11:16] <MarcC> try that first :D
[11:16] <omar> I am using this : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, to share a folder with a windows machine but I get an  error, I used to use it in kubuntu without a trouble, but I am now in ubuntu, what can I do
[11:16] <MasterEvil`Lapto> EDGY: Gettys still load even when being commented out???
[11:17] <MasterEvil`Lapto> omar: : what is the error?
[11:17] <omar>  MasterEvil`Lapto: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/trc
[11:17] <skreet> omar: You have CIFS support, I presume?
[11:17] <omar> MasterEvil`Lapto: missing codepage or other error
[11:18] <omar> MasterEvil`Lapto: I don't know
[11:18] <omar> MasterEvil`Lapto: Is there another way to share a folder
[11:18] <skreet> omar
[11:18] <skreet> err
[11:18] <omar> MasterEvil`Lapto: I have samba installed
[11:18] <skreet> omar: modprobe |grep cifs
[11:18] <skreet> if nothing then 'sudo modprobe cifs'
[11:19] <skreet> and try again
[11:19] <MasterEvil`Lapto> instead of cifs i use smbfs
[11:19] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: CIFS is faster, iirc.
[11:19] <omar> MasterEvil`Lapto: same error with smbfs
[11:20] <skreet> omar: Did you try the commands I sent you?
[11:20] <skreet> My msg to #kdevelop (no response): I'm getting an error during the configure step that says 'Couldn't find ncurses library'. I'm new to KDevelop, where should I configure library locations. libncurses.so -> libncurses.so.5.5 in my /lib directory.
[11:21] <omar> skrret: I got FATAL: Error inserting cifs (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/fs/cifs/cifs.ko)
[11:21] <skreet> omar: `uname -r` please
[11:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> is Flash 9 out for linux yet?
[11:22] <MarcC> no
[11:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> gosh
[11:22] <octan> hello
[11:22] <skreet> Is Adobe going to continue to release it for linux? :P
[11:22] <MarcC> unless you work for adobe
[11:22] <skreet> octan: Hello octan.
[11:22] <MarcC> :)
[11:22] <omar> skrret: where?
[11:22] <skreet> omar: In a shell, type uname -r
[11:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> I heard they were skipping flash 8 and going to flash 9 for linux
[11:22] <octan> i have ssh  into one of my 2 kubuntu installs..
[11:22] <MarcC> they have been testing it, and they're making progress...audio/video is completely synced up now, etc.
[11:23] <MasterEvil`Lapto> so flash 9 is supposed to have full linux support or something
[11:23] <omar> skrret: 2.6.15-27-386
[11:23] <octan> but i try to start up a X app
[11:23] <main2> i have a package im trying to install with adept, but it says BREAK(Install), when i look in the details
[11:23] <octan> i get error
[11:23] <MarcC> it just made a debut at the Flash Forward conference, running in ubuntu
[11:23] <octan> adept: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[11:23] <MarcC> but it's still pre-release...they're looking at early 2007.
[11:23] <MasterEvil`Lapto> Marcc: so you have flash 9 to send us ? :)
[11:23] <main2> it says that it has a conflicting dependency with itv-unstable-source, but this package isnt in my list
[11:23] <octan> what do i do
[11:23] <skreet> omar: Odd, I can modprobe cifs without a problem
[11:23] <main2> how do i fix the broken package dependency? :(
[11:23] <skreet> octan: Did you say you were using SSH?
[11:24] <octan> yes
[11:24] <octan> ssh -x
[11:24] <skreet> octan: I'm not familiar with that..
[11:24] <MarcC> main2, did you try apt-get -f install?
[11:24] <omar> skrret: what should be the whole line
[11:24] <main2> yes, didnt work..
[11:24] <skreet> omar: `sudo modprobe cifs`
[11:24] <main2> -f = fix
[11:24] <main2> --force didnt work..
[11:25] <MarcC> MasterEvil`Lapto: I just installed the Flash 9 player using this: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[11:25] <main2> i tried both
[11:25] <MasterEvil`Lapto> using kubuntu.. does anyone else have pretty big taskbar text?? I think mine is abnormally big, despite my fonts being set to 9 everywhere  konversation can only fit "#kubuntu - Konver" and a very faded s.
[11:25] <MasterEvil`Lapto> MarcC: : ty
[11:25] <MarcC> it was fast and easy, works great (speedy)
[11:25] <omar> skrret: sudo modprobe cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar
[11:25] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: Are you using nvidia-glx
[11:25] <MasterEvil`Lapto> skreet: yessir
[11:25] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: I noticed the font size increase too..
[11:26] <MarcC> MasterEvil`Lapto: mine fits "#kubuntu - Konversatio"
[11:26] <skreet> omar: `sudo modprobe cifs` will install the cifs driver.
[11:26] <skreet> omar: then you can run your mount, etc.
[11:26] <MarcC> main2: if you can find where all the leftover bits and pieces are from that install, remove them and you should be able to install the new package
[11:26] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: Same.
[11:26] <MasterEvil`Lapto> Ah, i thought i was imagining it. I saw some screenshots of my desktop from half a year ago and noticed the text WASN'T gigantic, so i was wondering what the deal was
[11:27] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: Some reason the nvidia-glx increases the font sizes.. go back to 'nv' you'll notice it change back
[11:27] <main2> MarcC: i have no idea what the leftovers are from that package so........
[11:27] <MasterEvil`Lapto> skreet: but nvidia-glx is faster though isn't it?
[11:27] <main2> feel like i got stuck with it :((((((
[11:27] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: Absolutely.
[11:28] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: Hardware accelerated.
[11:28] <MasterEvil`Lapto> skreet: I can live with it then
[11:28] <MarcC> main2: package name?
[11:28] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: Same, if I find a solution at some point I'll let you know.
[11:29] <main2> MarcC: it says that it has a conflict with ivtv-unstable-source
[11:29] <main2> this package does not show up in the list
[11:30] <main2> i might have installed this package from a .deb file, im not sure :/
[11:30] <MarcC> main2: so if you type "apt-get remove ivtv-unstable-source" does it give you an error?
[11:30] <skreet> omar: Any luck?
[11:31] <main2> MarcC: thats correct, it cannot find the package
[11:32] <dinos> hi
[11:32] <MarcC> MasterEvil`Lapto: System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Taskbar
[11:32] <beermunk> Hey all
[11:32] <MarcC> that will let you shrink it
[11:32] <beermunk> anyone around have some experience with Evolution?
[11:32] <MarcC> main2: hm, finding info on that package is kinda hard, maybe you should ask at the mythtv forum how to remove it
[11:33] <main2> mythtv forum?
[11:33] <main2> why at the mythtv forum?
[11:34] <MasterEvil`Lapto> MarcC: that does indeed seem to work.. i guess i have to compensate for the size being a little off using nvidia-glx, though. thanks
[11:34] <MarcC> main2: sorry, try the ivtv mailing list
[11:34] <cpk2> whats the apt-get command to install packages that are being "kept back"
[11:34] <MasterEvil`Lapto> It seems 1 point size off
[11:34] <MarcC> MasterEvil`Lapto: np
[11:35] <MarcC> cpk2: isn't that what happens when you install your own package that's newer than the one in the repos?
[11:35] <main2> thanks MarcC :)
[11:35] <MarcC> main2: sorry I couldn't help more, but I think removal is the key
[11:35] <nihil_> hello, can you help me -- how what should I edit to force program Conky to launch with kde start ?
[11:36] <main2> MarcC: if you know what to remove.., indeed i agree =)
[11:36] <cpk2> MarcC: pretty sure i havent installed any kernel modules myself
[11:36] <MasterEvil`Lapto> two last questions for awhile... 1) Is there a way to make my desktop icons massive? (i'm bored and trying to mess around with linux some more).. and secondly, is there a command line option for VNCServer (any of them, but i'm using tightvncserver) to disable input from clients? so they can only VIEW my screen
[11:37] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: I'm fairly certain you can do that with VNC, not sure how though.
[11:37] <MasterEvil`Lapto> nihil_: you can create a bash script and put it in /home/username/.kde/Autostart/ and set the script to executable and it will run everytime kde starts :)
[11:38] <cpk2> ahh nevermind i got it its dist-upgrade
[11:38] <nihil_> thanx, Master ;)
[11:39] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: If you didnt know you can replace /home/your_user with ~/
[11:39] <skreet> ~ = home directory
[11:39] <nihil_> so now, how can I set the script file to be executable ;) (sorry, I haven't warned you - I'm a beginner ;)
[11:40] <skreet> nihil_: chmod +x filename
[11:40] <MarcC> right-click, go to permissions, click "executable"
[11:40] <MasterEvil`Lapto> skreet: oh sweet, good tip
[11:40] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: ~/.kde/Autostart :)
[11:40] <nihil_> MarcC, i don't like clicking, I'm doing all things in console and vi
[11:41] <MarcC> nihil_: is that where you got your username? ;)
[11:41] <skreet> nihil_: You don't like clicking, or you don't like not knowing the root of how something is done?
[11:41] <Tal> im getting a mounting problem with my floppy drive.
[11:41] <skreet> nihil_: I love click, so long as I know the other way to do it as well ;)
[11:42] <nihil_> skreet, if I'm using linux, I want to discover where the hell are config files and know how this works ;)
[11:42] <Tal> mount: according to mtab, /dev/fd0 is already mounted on /media/fd0
[11:42] <Tal> mount failed
[11:43] <Tal> thats the error. anyone any clue?
[11:43] <skreet> nihil_: I see. I have a linux server with no GUI for this purpose. :)
[11:43] <skreet> Tal: Is it in fact mounted on /media/fd0?
[11:43] <mel> i just installed kubuntu, does it place the grub bootloader in the / partion?
[11:43] <Tal> unsure to be honest.
[11:43] <MasterEvil`Lapto> nihil_: lol, screw stuff up (as long as you have another computer to find a fix).. i know exactly where a lot of config files are just because i've broken them too many times
[11:43] <Tal> i didnt try to mount it via konsole.
[11:43] <mel> can i just delete my old /boot partiton
[11:43] <skreet> Tal: It may automount.
[11:43] <Tal> i used the GUI extractor tool and ask it to mount it.
[11:43] <skreet> Tal: Try to go to /media/fd0
[11:44] <skreet> Tal: Hm.
[11:44] <skreet> Tal: Go to console (Konsole) and type 'umount /media/fd0
[11:44] <nihil_> skreet, 2 days ago I've installed to do some experiments but this is too dangerous to my computer ;) i'm trying ubuntu now ;)
[11:44] <skreet> Tal: That will unmount it.
[11:44] <Tal> ok
[11:44] <skreet> Tal: For reference, fstab is what tells the OS where to mount what and how. mtab is what says what is already mounted and what isnt.
[11:44] <dungkal> mel: in installing Kubuntu, did you manually partition the harddisk?
[11:44] <Tal> ok kool
[11:44] <Tal> whats the command for umount again.
[11:44] <Tal> umount?
[11:45] <skreet> Tal: umount.
[11:45] <Tal> ok done it.
[11:45] <skreet> Tal: Now try the dialog thing. It shouldn't fail with that error
[11:45] <Tal> super.
[11:47] <skreet> Tal:  All set?
[11:48] <nihil_> by the way - all important files I'm keeping on other partitions, so even if i mess sometin' up, i'll lose nothing ;)
[11:48] <mel> yeah, i reformateed the / partiton
[11:49] <Tal> damnit
[11:49] <Tal> same error
[11:49] <Tal> i umounted
[11:49] <Tal> (its a .rar file)
[11:49] <Tal> open the extraction tool
[11:49] <Tal> Ark
[11:50] <Tal> tried extracting to floppy
[11:50] <skreet> hmm
[11:50] <skreet> Seems that Ark is trying to mount it again?
[11:50] <skreet> copy the file off the disk first?
[11:52] <Tal> mm?
[11:52] <Tal> i extracted it to desktop now.
[11:52] <Tal> ill try umount again
[11:52] <obf213> how do i find my wireless Ethernet address
[11:52] <Tal> then try moving files.
[11:52] <obf213> wireless "hardware Ethernet address"
[11:53] <skreet> obf213: ifconfig
[11:53] <Zaire> does anyone know how I can get ahold of the aclocal package?
[11:53] <Tal> is this right skreet?
[11:54] <Tal> i tried doing mount via konsole.
[11:54] <Tal> and got this message
[11:54] <obf213> skreet thans
[11:54] <Tal> mount: can't find /media/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:54] <Zaire> I need it to compile the zsnes
[11:54] <Tal> i typed that: sudo mount /media/fd0
[11:54] <skreet> Tal: `mount /media/fd0` i take it?
[11:54] <skreet> Tal: hmm hold on a sec
[11:54] <skreet> not sure how kubuntu does it
[11:54] <Tal> k
[11:54] <skreet> blah I dont have a floppy drive to check either
[11:55] <Tal> :o
[11:55] <nihil_> koay, so my script in autorun will have only one line.... exec conky -d ?
[11:55] <skreet> Anyone know what the device node is for a floppy drive
[11:55] <skreet> Tal: Type `/dev/floppy` and tell me what it says
[11:55] <Admiral_Chicago> skreet, check /media
[11:56] <skreet> Admiral_Chicago: thats the mounded path, I need the dev node.
[11:56] <Tal> bash: /dev/floppy: No such file or directory
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> skreet, oh okay
[11:57] <Tal> see i tried using just konqueror
[11:57] <skreet> `/dev/floppy`? You dont want to do that..
[11:57] <Tal> ?
[11:58] <skreet> `/dev/` is a device accessor, cannot be browsed
[11:58] <skreet> it needs to be `mount`ed
[11:58] <Tal> you said type that?
 Tal: Type `/dev/floppy` and tell me what it says
[11:58] <skreet> in a konsole, sorry. :)
[11:58] <Tal> i did..
[11:58] <skreet> Oh.
[11:58] <Tal> in konsole
[11:58] <skreet> sorry
[11:58] <skreet> Misunderstood
[11:58] <skreet> What did it say?
[11:58] <Tal> bash: /dev/floppy: No such file or directory
[11:59] <skreet> hrm..
[11:59] <skreet> i have no idea what it's called.
[11:59] <Tal> wouldnt be
[11:59] <Tal> media/fd0 would it?
[11:59] <skreet> no..
[12:00] <Tal> k
[12:00] <skreet> type `cat /etc/fstab|grep fd0`
[12:00] <Tal> nothing.
[12:00] <Tal> no error no nothing.
[12:00] <skreet> neat
[12:00] <Tal> you wanna search for it?
[12:00] <skreet> Nope..
[12:01] <Tal> grep is usually the second search parameter isnt it?
[12:01] <skreet> Sorry.. Not sure what to look at next..
[12:01] <Tal> apt-cache search ... grep
[12:01] <skreet> cat is to display a file, grep is to only display lines that contain a word
[12:01] <Tal> ok.
[12:01] <skreet> i.e. only show lines with fd0
[12:01] <Tal> well i can do this another way.
[12:01] <Tal> ill burn it to cd
[12:01] <Tal> go to windoze.
[12:01] <skreet> heh
[12:01] <evg_> hola
[12:01] <Tal> then floppy iy
[12:01] <skreet> sure
[12:01] <Tal> it*
[12:01] <Tal> its a windows 95 disk
[12:01] <skreet> eww
[12:01] <Tal> floppy version.
[12:01] <Tal> :P
[12:01] <skreet> can i ask wh
[12:02] <skreet> why
[12:02] <Tal> its for an old laptop
[12:02] <skreet> evg_: Hello.
[12:02] <Tal> no bootable cdrom
[12:02] <Tal> is there a floppy linux?
[12:02] <Tal> with an ok GUI?
[12:02] <Zaire> damn small maybe
[12:02] <nimrod> i installed phpmyadmin but accidently deleted the phpmyadmin link folder located at /var/www path and now i cant use phpmyadmin... i can't find the folder to create the link again
[12:02] <Tal> well it can be more than one floppy
[12:02] <skreet> Zaire: I was gonna say that but I think they're up to 50mb now.
[12:02] <Tal> win 95 is 13 disks
[12:02] <Zaire> could be
[12:03] <skreet> Tal: Look into Damn Small Linux
[12:03] <Zaire> smallest OS Ive seen is morph OS for amiga ppc
[12:03] <MasterEvil`Lapto> some say it's too damn small
[12:03] <skreet> MasterEvil`Lapto: lol
[12:03] <Tal> i just am
[12:03] <Tal> it says 50mb
[12:03] <Tal> its not a laptop its a notebook
[12:03] <Tal> and its a USB cdrom
[12:04] <Tal> but it wont recognise it in bios
[12:04] <Tal> which sucks.
[12:04] <Tal> no USB support via bios
[12:04] <zorglu_> tried to install via network ?
[12:04] <Tal> no..
[12:04] <Tal> ive never really networked anything
[12:04] <zorglu_> it is the usual alternative when you cant boot the cd
[12:05] <Tal> how do i do that?
[12:05] <zorglu_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=341981 <- maybe this one may be of help
[12:05] <zorglu_> http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install <- this one too
[12:07] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot <- this one is the official one
[12:07] <Tal> Download and make Debian boot and root
[12:07] <Tal> Download and make Debian boot and root floppies
[12:07] <zorglu_> This HOWTO describes the steps required to start an installation of Ubuntu over the network (if you have e.g. an old machine with a non-bootable CDROM). <- from the last url, this seems for you :)
[12:07] <Tal> wtf does that mean.
[12:08] <Tal> Oo
[12:08] <Tal> ok
[12:08] <skreet> assuming you have a network card that's compatible
[12:08] <Tal> dude thats all gibberish to me lol
[12:08] <skreet> and a big enough hard disk :(
[12:08] <Tal> i suck.
[12:08] <skreet> Confidence!
[12:09] <Tal> i need to connect the laptop to this pc though right?
[12:09] <Tal> bbiab. im gonna try win95. once i have an OS on there i can worry about linux after.
[12:10] <skreet_away> Once I have an OS on there.. I can worry about Linux..
[12:10] <nimrod> i installed phpmyadmin but accidently deleted the phpmyadmin link folder located at /var/www path and now i cant use phpmyadmin... i can't find the folder to create the link again
[12:10] <skreet_away> nimrod `sudo updatedb` and `locate phpmyadmin` ?
[12:10] <nimrod> ill try