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| Jak08 | hello | 12:26 |
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| kwwii_ | hi | 12:26 |
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| Jak08 | question, I am not able to use ubuntu right now, because well it doesn't work with my harddrive in my imac, it doesn't recognize the free space, but in what ways can I contribute? | 12:27 |
| Jak08 | I am hoping that the new version of ubuntu will have complete support for the new intel macs, I can use it on another computer, but it only has dialup, which I am not fond of | 12:30 |
| kwwii_ | Jak08: well, in a virtual desktop, it certainlyl works | 12:31 |
| kwwii_ | not sure how well on the actual machine | 12:31 |
| Jak08 | ok, but is there anyway I can contribute then? and is there a by chance a better sollution to a virtual desktop besides vmware? | 12:32 |
| kwwii_ | well, we need work everywhere | 12:33 |
| kwwii_ | pick what you can do best and do it | 12:33 |
| kwwii_ | well, on macbooks there is a program (paralells, or such) | 12:34 |
| Jak08 | can I have an example of such work? I'm sorry but I am rather new to OS graphics and am not sure what there is all to do | 12:34 |
| Jak08 | yeah, I should look into paralells | 12:35 |
| Jak08 | hmm not bad only 80 bucks | 12:37 |
| kwwii_ | well, it is all in the source code | 12:39 |
| kwwii_ | installing it is kinda important | 12:39 |
| kwwii_ | you can check the wiki | 12:39 |
| Jak08 | but can I have some example of work that can be done without the actual OS? for the meantime | 12:40 |
| kwwii_ | wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork | 12:40 |
| kwwii_ | we are currently in the process of making the artwork for 6.10 | 12:40 |
| kwwii_ | the wiki might be the best place for you | 12:40 |
| Jak08 | k | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | at the bottom of each page is a list of sub-pages | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | that is important | 12:41 |
| Jak08 | do you know, about how much experiance wise do you lose by using a virtual desktop? | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | none | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | little | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | depends on the computer | 12:41 |
| kwwii_ | on a macbook, little | 12:42 |
| Jak08 | also besides photoshop what are some other usful tools that you can name for me to get? | 12:43 |
| kwwii_ | well, a vector program is very important... | 12:43 |
| kwwii_ | on linux I would suggest inkscape | 12:44 |
| Jak08 | ok, what exactly is a vector program? | 12:44 |
| kwwii_ | it runs on win and mac too I think | 12:44 |
| kwwii_ | it makes vector pics, which can be scaled | 12:44 |
| kwwii_ | the important thing to know is SVG | 12:44 |
| kwwii_ | Scalable Vector Graphiccs | 12:44 |
| kwwii_ | check wikipedia or such if you don't know it | 12:44 |
| Jak08 | ok | 12:45 |
| Jak08 | and besides inkscape what other usful tools should i get? | 12:45 |
| kwwii_ | in addition to the pixmap programs like photoshop or GIMP those apps will be the most important | 12:45 |
| kwwii_ | I use imagemagick a lot | 12:45 |
| kwwii_ | a whole lot | 12:46 |
| Jak08 | what is imagemagick per say? | 12:46 |
| kwwii_ | it is best used in the bash shell (so the terminal) | 12:46 |
| kwwii_ | it is a program for graphics | 12:46 |
| kwwii_ | but it is best used in scripting | 12:46 |
| kwwii_ | anyway, as a normal user...inkscape on linux, Adobe Illustrator on a prop. system like win or mac | 12:47 |
| Jak08 | so imagemagick is like an alternative to photoshop and gimp? | 12:47 |
| Jak08 | ok, I have illustrator for mac | 12:47 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, no..it is just as powerfull, but in a different way...you can do things with scripts on pics with it very effeciently | 12:48 |
| kwwii_ | illustrator is good | 12:48 |
| kwwii_ | save things as svg | 12:48 |
| kwwii_ | do not use too many filters | 12:48 |
| kwwii_ | like negative multiply, etc. | 12:48 |
| Jak08 | so is it completely fesable to do the graphics in os x and then port them to linux? | 12:49 |
| Jak08 | ok | 12:49 |
| kwwii_ | yes, definitely | 12:51 |
| kwwii_ | I do quite a lot of work in osx | 12:51 |
| kwwii_ | I do have to earn a living :-) | 12:51 |
| Jak08 | haha, yeah | 12:51 |
| kwwii_ | although atm I do earn most of my money working for canonical doing graphics and it is 100% linux and inkscape | 12:53 |
| kwwii_ | for a good artist, the tool is not the problem | 12:54 |
| kwwii_ | funny to say, but good art can be done with any tool | 12:55 |
| kwwii_ | it is more a matter of intent and will | 12:55 |
| Jak08 | yeah | 12:56 |
| Jak08 | ok, well i will definitly get the tools you suggested, and do a bit of research and try my damndest to get ubuntu installed, but for now I have to go, hopefully I will get to speak with you again soon, with better news on my end | 12:57 |
| kwwii_ | cool :-) have fun! | 12:57 |
| kwwii_ | hope to see you here again | 12:58 |
| Jak08 | oh i'll be back, don't worry | 01:01 |
| Jak08 | hey a bit off topic but have you been able to use vista? | 01:01 |
| kwwii_ | I only have ppc at home, so I haven't checked it out at all, actually | 01:03 |
| kwwii_ | funny, but as a mac user, who does linux vista is some screenshot festival that I do not even get into | 01:04 |
| Jak08 | ahh, it is a lot better than xp but in a lot of ways it falls short | 01:04 |
| Jak08 | haha | 01:04 |
| kwwii_ | I think that linux can surpass all that | 01:05 |
| Jak08 | oh definitly especially with the rapid growth and developement it has seen recently | 01:05 |
| kwwii_ | it comes down to leadership | 01:06 |
| kwwii_ | in some aspects | 01:06 |
| kwwii_ | and kubuntu and ubuntu have it...a goal | 01:07 |
| Jak08 | yes | 01:07 |
| Jak08 | I have never used kubuntu how does it compare with normal ubuntu? | 01:07 |
| kwwii_ | I think it is even better oriented for the "normal Windows" user | 01:08 |
| kwwii_ | it is powerfull, yet simple to use | 01:08 |
| Jak08 | yeah, well anything else you say to me i'll just have to read in the logs couse i really need to go now | 01:09 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 01:09 |
| kwwii_ | me too | 01:09 |
| kwwii_ | see you | 01:09 |
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| giga | any1 here? | 11:52 |
| kwwii_ | hi | 11:58 |
| kwwii_ | just me it seems | 11:58 |
| giga | is this channel ever active? Does it serve a purpose? | 12:01 |
| kwwii_ | lol | 12:01 |
| kwwii_ | of course it does | 12:01 |
| kwwii_ | and yes, it is often actice | 12:01 |
| kwwii_ | active | 12:01 |
| kwwii_ | at certain times | 12:02 |
| kwwii_ | it is more a channel for direct contact | 12:02 |
| giga | What do you do though? | 12:05 |
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