=== Jak08 [n=Jak@cras80p92.navix.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:26] hello [12:26] hi === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:27] question, I am not able to use ubuntu right now, because well it doesn't work with my harddrive in my imac, it doesn't recognize the free space, but in what ways can I contribute? [12:30] I am hoping that the new version of ubuntu will have complete support for the new intel macs, I can use it on another computer, but it only has dialup, which I am not fond of [12:31] Jak08: well, in a virtual desktop, it certainlyl works [12:31] not sure how well on the actual machine [12:32] ok, but is there anyway I can contribute then? and is there a by chance a better sollution to a virtual desktop besides vmware? [12:33] well, we need work everywhere [12:33] pick what you can do best and do it [12:34] well, on macbooks there is a program (paralells, or such) [12:34] can I have an example of such work? I'm sorry but I am rather new to OS graphics and am not sure what there is all to do [12:35] yeah, I should look into paralells [12:37] hmm not bad only 80 bucks [12:39] well, it is all in the source code [12:39] installing it is kinda important [12:39] you can check the wiki [12:40] but can I have some example of work that can be done without the actual OS? for the meantime [12:40] wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork [12:40] we are currently in the process of making the artwork for 6.10 [12:40] the wiki might be the best place for you [12:41] k [12:41] at the bottom of each page is a list of sub-pages [12:41] that is important [12:41] do you know, about how much experiance wise do you lose by using a virtual desktop? [12:41] none [12:41] little [12:41] depends on the computer [12:42] on a macbook, little [12:43] also besides photoshop what are some other usful tools that you can name for me to get? [12:43] well, a vector program is very important... [12:44] on linux I would suggest inkscape [12:44] ok, what exactly is a vector program? [12:44] it runs on win and mac too I think [12:44] it makes vector pics, which can be scaled [12:44] the important thing to know is SVG [12:44] Scalable Vector Graphiccs [12:44] check wikipedia or such if you don't know it [12:45] ok [12:45] and besides inkscape what other usful tools should i get? [12:45] in addition to the pixmap programs like photoshop or GIMP those apps will be the most important [12:45] I use imagemagick a lot [12:46] a whole lot [12:46] what is imagemagick per say? [12:46] it is best used in the bash shell (so the terminal) [12:46] it is a program for graphics [12:46] but it is best used in scripting [12:47] anyway, as a normal user...inkscape on linux, Adobe Illustrator on a prop. system like win or mac [12:47] so imagemagick is like an alternative to photoshop and gimp? [12:47] ok, I have illustrator for mac [12:48] hehe, no..it is just as powerfull, but in a different way...you can do things with scripts on pics with it very effeciently [12:48] illustrator is good [12:48] save things as svg [12:48] do not use too many filters [12:48] like negative multiply, etc. [12:49] so is it completely fesable to do the graphics in os x and then port them to linux? [12:49] ok [12:51] yes, definitely [12:51] I do quite a lot of work in osx [12:51] I do have to earn a living :-) [12:51] haha, yeah [12:53] although atm I do earn most of my money working for canonical doing graphics and it is 100% linux and inkscape [12:54] for a good artist, the tool is not the problem [12:55] funny to say, but good art can be done with any tool [12:55] it is more a matter of intent and will [12:56] yeah [12:57] ok, well i will definitly get the tools you suggested, and do a bit of research and try my damndest to get ubuntu installed, but for now I have to go, hopefully I will get to speak with you again soon, with better news on my end [12:57] cool :-) have fun! [12:58] hope to see you here again [01:01] oh i'll be back, don't worry [01:01] hey a bit off topic but have you been able to use vista? [01:03] I only have ppc at home, so I haven't checked it out at all, actually [01:04] funny, but as a mac user, who does linux vista is some screenshot festival that I do not even get into [01:04] ahh, it is a lot better than xp but in a lot of ways it falls short [01:04] haha [01:05] I think that linux can surpass all that [01:05] oh definitly especially with the rapid growth and developement it has seen recently [01:06] it comes down to leadership [01:06] in some aspects [01:07] and kubuntu and ubuntu have it...a goal [01:07] yes [01:07] I have never used kubuntu how does it compare with normal ubuntu? [01:08] I think it is even better oriented for the "normal Windows" user [01:08] it is powerfull, yet simple to use [01:09] yeah, well anything else you say to me i'll just have to read in the logs couse i really need to go now [01:09] hehe [01:09] me too [01:09] see you === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549567F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Konversation] === klepas_Zzz is now known as klepas === Jak08 [n=Jak@cras80p80.navix.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fmasi [n=fmasi@20150159084.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PseudoPlacebo [n=Placebo@user-12lcr8r.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549570DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === dborg [n=daniel@e182053183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-062-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@16.14-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-062-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PseudoPlacebo [n=Placebo@user-12lcr8r.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host199-202-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host199-202-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fmasi [n=fmasi@20150159084.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === giga [n=giga@modemcable007.1-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:52] any1 here? [11:58] hi [11:58] just me it seems [12:01] is this channel ever active? Does it serve a purpose? [12:01] lol [12:01] of course it does [12:01] and yes, it is often actice [12:01] active [12:02] at certain times [12:02] it is more a channel for direct contact [12:05] What do you do though?