[01:17] <theCore> hello all
[01:19] <theCore> I created a new team that I think will help the docteam, https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-helpteam
[01:21] <theCore> my main goal is to identify things that peoples have an hard time with, so the other teams can "fix" those issues
[01:22] <Burgwork> theCore, have you seen the new user network?
[01:22] <Burgwork> they are exactly that
[01:22] <theCore> Burgwork, no, what it is?
[01:23] <Burgwork> #ubuntu-nun  or ubuntu-nun on LP
[01:24] <theCore> Burgwork, ok I found it
[01:24] <LaserJock> hmm, would those be the same though
[01:24] <LaserJock> nun is for new user support
[01:25] <LaserJock> wereas I would think ubuntu-helpteam would be more "identify the problems"
[01:25] <LaserJock> or did I read that wrong
[01:25] <theCore> LaserJock, you're right
[01:26] <Burgwork> they are close enough that it shoudl be folding into nun
[01:26] <LaserJock> probably
[01:26] <theCore> yeah, maybe
[01:26] <Burgwork> "background-color:#37b" <-- what does this mean
[01:26] <Burgwork> ?
[01:26] <Burgwork> what is that in HEX?
[01:27] <theCore> Burgwork, I believe it's equivalent to #37b37b
[01:28] <FireRabbit> yeah
[01:28] <FireRabbit> thats a horrible green
[01:28] <Burgwork> http://userful.com/ <-- I want the blue colour of that bar
[01:28] <FireRabbit> Burgwork: sudo apt-get install gcolor2
[01:29] <FireRabbit> its got an eyedropper
[01:29] <Burgwork> FireRabbit, stuck on my FC4 box at work
[01:29] <Burgwork> yum install die-of-old-age
[01:29] <FireRabbit> hahaha
[01:30] <Burgwork> it isn't quiet 37bfff, either
[01:30] <LaserJock> lol
[01:30] <LaserJock> at least it's FC4
[01:30] <LaserJock> FC1 is what made my boss switch to OS X :/
[01:31] <Burgwork> it could be Gentoo
[01:31] <FireRabbit> #3377BB ?
[01:31] <Burgwork> you sir, are a genius
[01:32] <FireRabbit> heh np
[01:32] <FireRabbit> btw, check out the firefox dom inspector, you can use it to find colors faster than source hunting
[01:34] <Burgwork> right, I use ephy
[01:34] <FireRabbit> ah
[01:37] <Burgwork> oh, and yum extender blows
[01:37] <Burgwork> http://linux.rasmil.dk/gfx/yumex-045-02/packages.png
[01:37] <Burgwork> probably the worst UI have I seen in ages
[01:38] <FireRabbit> gross 
[01:38] <FireRabbit> hail synaptic :)
[01:38] <Burgwork> gnome app install rocks
[01:38] <Burgwork> we just need Fedora to pick it up
[01:39] <Burgwork> part of what I am going to be trying todo at the Boston Summit
[01:39] <LaserJock> wow, yum extender is way better looking than when I last tried it
[01:40] <Burgwork> can you try an IP for me? 64.180.214.139
[01:40] <Burgwork> what do you get?
[01:40] <LaserJock> like ping you?
[01:41] <Burgwork> no, via http
[01:42] <LaserJock> nada
[01:43] <Burgwork> bugger
[01:44] <LaserJock> timeout
[01:45] <Burgwork> ok, try now
[01:48] <Burgwork> LaserJock, ?
[01:51] <LaserJock> same thing
[04:21] <mpt> Burgwork, ping
[04:25] <mpt> Burgwork, unping
[05:16] <nixternal> kubuntu release notes are starting to kick arse
[05:17] <nixternal> hrmm...what is the process of becoming an "author" around here?  i mean, with the release notes I have created a bunch of new stuff ;)
[05:18] <Madpilot> nixternal, stick your name in the contributor's section of whatever doc you've worked on, then.
[05:18] <Madpilot> do enough stuff, and you'll get "Maintainer" - lucky you. 
[05:18] <nixternal> hehe
[05:19] <nixternal> im leaving jjesse as the maintainer ;)
[05:19] <Madpilot> I'm listed (along w/ mdke) as Maintainer of the Ubuntu Desktop Guide - a doc I've not even touched for this release cycle :|
[05:20] <nixternal> ouch
[05:20] <nixternal> we have 3 days left for freeze, get to touchin' 
[05:20] <nixternal> the doc that is ;)
[05:37] <nixternal> i just up'd the latest revision to the Kubuntu Release NOtes if anyone wants to look over them
[05:37] <nixternal> i think thre are still a couple of crude paragraphs, but that will get worked out before the freeze
[05:40] <crimsun> url would be nice for those of us who don't frequent doc
[05:41] <nixternal> i bet it would ;)
[05:41] <nixternal> i will give you a choice... xml docbook style, or i can build the html and upload it somewhere for your to look at if you would like
[05:41] <crimsun> if it's in svn, I'll checkout later
[05:42] <nixternal> ya
[05:42] <nixternal> it is in svn
[09:35] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: you there?
[09:35] <Madpilot> yes
[09:35] <Burgundavia> has your computer been on since about 4/5 today?
[09:36] <Madpilot> no, I only got home just past 8
[09:36] <Burgundavia> hmm
[09:36] <Madpilot> why?
[09:36] <Burgundavia> hmm, just remembered the logs
[09:36] <Madpilot> ... ?
[09:37] <Burgundavia> needed an ip
[09:37] <Madpilot> from someone on irc?
[09:37] <Burgundavia> from myself, at work
[09:39] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, you're still not making much sense... given that you're cloaked in both your accounts, it's kind of hard to find your IP from Freenode...
[09:40] <Burgundavia> no, I wanted to find the routers IP at work
[09:40] <Burgundavia> trying to see if I could get in, but no go
[09:40] <Madpilot> I thought you had some sort of SSH access already?
[09:42] <Burgundavia> no, I am trying to get port 80 redirection to work and not having much luck
[10:13] <Madpilot> Way to respond to a request that you merge a page you've just started with an existing wiki page: "I shall proceed until threatened with physical violence."
[10:14] <Madpilot> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToUseTheTerminal
[02:29] <nixternal> oh its definitely way to early
[02:29] <jsgotangco> no its not
[02:29] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:30] <jsgotangco> you just woke up too early
[02:30] <nixternal> hehe
[02:30] <Jucato> :)
[02:30] <nixternal> people requested i speak about them for membership
[02:30] <jsgotangco> hey someone got lost here
[02:30] <jsgotangco> ;)
[02:30] <Jucato> heh :)
[02:31] <nixternal> haha
[02:31] <jsgotangco> nixternal: so what's keeping you busy lately?
[02:31] <nixternal> jsgotangco: i like that quote from Amador about software patents..he rocks
[02:31] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:32] <nixternal> school work, doc work, packaging, ubuntu chicago, lug work
[02:32] <jsgotangco> he's a cool guy, BSD hacker by day, guitar player at night
[02:32] <nixternal> nice
[02:32] <jsgotangco> he works at this IPV6 company
[02:32] <jsgotangco> they only do BSD nothing more
[02:33] <nixternal> no thank you...i tried that once
[02:33] <nixternal> i couldn't take an all BSD atmosphere
[02:33] <jsgotangco> IPv6 is north america is a dead issue, but for us countries deprived of IP addresses, we're jumping on it
[02:34] <jsgotangco> as well as high requirement countries like korea, japan and china
[02:34] <jsgotangco> well its a good OS for sure but not for my laptop
[02:35] <nixternal> ya, i can't wait for ipv6 to bite us in the ass, but if it doesn't make us money we don't want it...us fat lazy ass americans only want it if it will make us money..which im sure you know this already since you have lived here ;)
[02:35] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:35] <nixternal> i worked for a major ISP recently, and they didn't have 1 IPv6 device
[02:35] <jsgotangco> yuck
[02:35] <jsgotangco> that's not thinking forward for sure
[02:35] <nixternal> none of their engineers could even tell you how it works
[02:36] <jsgotangco> heh maybe they will after 10 years
[02:36] <jsgotangco> when it becomes the next Y2K phenom hah
[02:36] <nixternal> ya right
[02:37] <nixternal> you know what..i made a lot of my cash from Y2K..so I won't complain if IPv6 becomes the next Y2K issue here ;)
[02:40] <jsgotangco> haha
[02:42] <nixternal> i worked for a company that was greedy..they brainwashed everyone int he company with that y2k garbage
[02:58] <wmat> nixternal: I say we brainwash companies with a new Y2K-like scare and make gobs of money again ;)
[02:58] <nixternal> im ready for that
[02:58] <nixternal> im broke seeing as I decided to do this school thing all over again, and full-time at that
[02:58] <nixternal> double majors stink
[03:00] <wmat> nixternal: really? at what age? I've considered going back occasionally but can't seem to justify it financially.
[03:00] <nixternal> 32
[03:01] <nixternal> funny thing is...im one of the youngest in these classes
[03:01] <wmat> really, what are you taking?
[03:01] <wmat> and is it an adult ed thing or something?
[03:03] <nixternal> nope..full out college... finishing my MBA, and I am taking a CompSci course with an emphasis in C (++ and #) for Unix...trying to knock the rust off of my not-so-elite programming skills
[03:03] <nixternal> 15 credit hours this semester
[03:05] <wmat> wow, i'm surprised the age of the students in >30 
[03:05] <wmat> i'm 36 with kids and a mortgage, so it'd be difficult for me to do
[03:05] <wmat> perhaps if i win the lottery ;)
[03:09] <nixternal> ya, well my plans were this..i sold my house in January, why?  i bought one in cabo san lucas mexico...oh, the owners received the down payment, burnt the house down, and double collected with insurance
[03:09] <nixternal> so i had quit my job and everything...so i said the hell with it..i have a little bit of money saved up, plus I have the GI Bill and stuff helping me out
[03:09] <nixternal> but child support is killing me
[03:10] <wmat> ouch
[03:10] <wmat> did you get your downpayments back?
[04:11] <nixternal> hiya mgalvin
[04:11] <mgalvin> hey nixternal 
[04:16] <jsgotangco> hey
[05:09] <Alan__> can i request documentation here?
[05:12] <nixternal> what are you looking for?
[05:15] <Alan__> an egroupware install & config guide or another recommended groupware system
[05:15] <Alan__> with the guide assuming mail is also processed by the same server
[05:17] <Alan__> also, whilst im here, is there an index for the wiki?
[05:20] <nixternal> ya there is..let me see if i remember how to get to it
[05:22] <nixternal> for the groupware stuff, i reallyd on't know
[05:22] <nixternal> i know kolab has a decent one through their site
[05:22] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[05:26] <Alan__> thanks for the index link
[05:27] <Alan__> it's a tough one on what to try with the groupware... do you know which one is the most feature complete?
[05:28] <nixternal> i have used kolab in the past, i know the suse server is good as well..but overall i could't tell you which was best
[05:28] <Alan__> ok, i know egroupware has a lot of feature, but i think it relies on php4...is that bad?
[05:29] <nixternal> not at all
[05:29] <nixternal> it iwll run with php5 as well
[05:29] <nixternal> citadel is also supposed to be pretty good from what i have heard
[05:30] <nixternal> your top 4 would probably be Kolab, SuSE OpenExchange, eGroupware, and OpenGroupware.org, not in any order 
[05:32] <Alan__> oh, great. i'll have a look. thank you.
[05:33] <nixternal> no problem
[07:59] <Muhmann> hallo