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eyequeue | is there a quick synopsis (or page) about what -generic -server and -server-bigiron mean in edgy? | 01:33 |
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eyequeue | o | 01:33 |
eyequeue | m guessing this will be a faq, so i'd like to have a page to send people to | 01:34 |
eyequeue | (will create a factoid, if not) | 01:34 |
crimsun | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/020807.html | 01:36 |
crimsun | the latter directly addresses your question; the former is nice for context | 01:37 |
eyequeue | crimsun, thanks, i figure i'm not the only one that wonders :) | 01:38 |
gnomefreak | eyequeue: the -i386 is still an edgy kernel | 01:51 |
eyequeue | yes | 01:51 |
gnomefreak | eyequeue: your factoid said they changed to -generic | 01:51 |
eyequeue | perhaps i need to add that, but dpn't have access | 01:51 |
gnomefreak | eyequeue: try to add it and i will add it | 01:51 |
eyequeue | feel free to edit if you do | 01:51 |
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zul | hi mdz | 01:56 |
mdz | hi | 01:59 |
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desrt | BenC_; 'sup | 08:35 |
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infinity | BenC: About to NEW the new kernels for you, do you have an LRM and -meta lined up? | 02:41 |
BenC | yep, getting them ready now | 02:41 |
infinity | Spiff. | 02:41 |
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infinity | There, done. | 02:46 |
infinity | BenC: Accepted. If you get LRM up before :03, you get a prize. :) | 02:46 |
BenC | lrm is uploaded | 02:47 |
BenC | now where's my prize :) | 02:47 |
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infinity | That'd be your prize. :) | 02:47 |
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ajmitch | lucky kamion is tied up in a CC meeting :) | 02:48 |
infinity | Actually, I may still be around in the hour or so when all the binaries show up. | 02:48 |
infinity | We'll see. | 02:48 |
zul | ajmitch whats the bug number for the ioemu stuff again? | 02:54 |
ajmitch | bug 61121 | 02:54 |
zul | thanks...uploading now | 02:55 |
ajmitch | does it still have -- in the package name? | 02:56 |
ajmitch | just a minor thing :) | 02:56 |
zul | nope...i386 and amd64 packages are the same now | 02:56 |
ajmitch | ok, great | 02:56 |
ajmitch | how'd you go with the headers? | 02:57 |
ajmitch | just starting for the day? | 02:57 |
zul | yeah im just starting fot the day | 02:57 |
mjg59 | infinity: Oh, hey, bug appeared about madwifi suddenly supporting less hardware | 03:12 |
zul | BenC: : ping | 03:13 |
zul | is there support for qla2300 hba cards? | 03:14 |
BenC | zul: I think so | 03:15 |
zul | well ill guess ill go find out | 03:15 |
BenC | infinity: l-m uploaded now too | 03:15 |
fabbione | we do have the driver | 03:15 |
zul | ssweet | 03:15 |
infinity | mjg59: Is it wrong of my to admit how deeply I don't care? | 03:15 |
infinity | mjg59: (Is it just missing PCI IDs, or fundamental incompatibilities with the new hal?) | 03:16 |
mjg59 | infinity: hal breakage | 03:16 |
infinity | s/my to/me to/ | 03:16 |
infinity | hal breakage. Suck. | 03:16 |
mjg59 | It's almost like we're dealing with some sort of incompetence | 03:16 |
infinity | I guess we get to A) whine upstream, and B) tell people to not use hardware with binary-only drivers. :/ | 03:16 |
infinity | We could roll a hacked up madwifi-old for the older cards, but that idea makes me cry many moons. | 03:17 |
mjg59 | Oh, hang on, it's about dapper | 03:18 |
thom | wouldn't crying a _single_ moon be rather painful? | 03:18 |
mjg59 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/60860 | 03:18 |
thom | multiple ones just seems masochastic | 03:19 |
thom | masochistic even | 03:19 |
mjg59 | No, wait, that's not the bug I'm thinking of | 03:19 |
infinity | Clearly not. | 03:19 |
mjg59 | Nngh. | 03:19 |
infinity | That's just straight up linkage breakage (and I assume, no longer an issue, or we'd have a mess of duplicates) | 03:20 |
mjg59 | I'm getting vast numbers of launchpad mail nowadays | 03:20 |
infinity | You can't possibly get as much as I do. | 03:20 |
mjg59 | You're paid | 03:20 |
infinity | I've turned ignoring LP mail into an art form. | 03:20 |
ajmitch | you receive every build log & upload? | 03:21 |
infinity | Don't get all the logs yet, but I will when that patch lands. | 03:22 |
infinity | I just happen to also get bug mail for about half the distribution. | 03:22 |
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mjg59 | infinity: https://launchpad.net/bugs/27604 | 03:22 |
mjg59 | No idea what's going on there | 03:22 |
zul | whoot...new file server is going to be ubuntu | 03:28 |
infinity | mjg59: Fun. At least that's new hardware, and not "we accidentally dropped support for old hardware", which is what I thought you meant. | 03:29 |
mjg59 | infinity: Well, doesn't it claim that it used to work? | 03:35 |
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Petaris | ajmitch: I don't suppose yoru awake ATM? | 03:49 |
Petaris | er, your | 03:49 |
infinity | mjg59: Yeah, but it also claims it stopped working without a reboot, which is pretty sketchy. | 03:49 |
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doko_ | BenC: the names/descriptions for the kernel packages are confusing: -i386 -> "Supports alternate x86 (486 and better)", generic -> "Supports generic processors" | 06:52 |
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BenC | doko_: I'll try to clean that up some | 07:29 |
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ernstp | is usplash supposed to work on amd64? with edgy? | 08:24 |
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HiddenWolf | Hey guys. | 08:27 |
HiddenWolf | BenC: around? | 08:27 |
HiddenWolf | I've got a possible bug wrt acpi/cardbus cards, and I need some help figuring out how to file a good bug. | 08:32 |
BenC | HiddenWolf: yeah | 08:41 |
BenC | is this in edgy? | 08:41 |
HiddenWolf | BenC: yeah | 08:42 |
HiddenWolf | BenC: I recently took an old laptop and put dapper on it. Internet over a cardbus pmcia ethernet card. Worked flawlessly. After a dist-upgrade to dapper this broke. | 08:43 |
HiddenWolf | to edgy | 08:43 |
BenC | try 2.6.17-8 before filing a bug | 08:43 |
BenC | what driver was it using? | 08:44 |
HiddenWolf | On dapper I have no clue. | 08:44 |
HiddenWolf | on edgy all I get is: | 08:44 |
HiddenWolf | Sep 19 22:21:12 ubuntu kernel: [ 123.452379] pccard: card ejected from slot 1 | 08:44 |
HiddenWolf | Sep 19 22:21:44 ubuntu kernel: [ 156.219006] pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 1 | 08:44 |
HiddenWolf | BenC: is 2.6.17-8 on a daily, or will I have to wait? | 08:48 |
BenC | should show up in the archive any time now | 08:48 |
gnomefreak | HiddenWolf: it should hit repos shortly | 08:48 |
BenC | already uploaded and built | 08:48 |
gnomefreak | just got the pre packages | 08:49 |
HiddenWolf | ah. | 08:49 |
HiddenWolf | I'll burn tomorrow's daily then. I don't feel like shuttling kernel debs on a usb-stick. ^-^ | 08:50 |
Mithrandir | zul: did you get to hack on the amd64 problems yesterday? | 08:53 |
zul | Mithrandir: no i was trying to fix the xen-ioemu bug report, i have access to an amd64 box now so i will do it tonight | 08:54 |
Mithrandir | ok | 08:54 |
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HiddenWolf | BenC: same problem with -8 | 09:07 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Please do lspci before and after inserting the card | 09:07 |
BenC | HiddenWolf: Please file a bug report with lspci (with card inserted), and dmesg, and tag the bug edgy-regression | 09:08 |
BenC | yeah, before and after would be helpful | 09:08 |
HiddenWolf | at least one bug was fixed by -8 tho | 09:09 |
HiddenWolf | I can now force acpi | 09:09 |
gnomefreak | HiddenWolf: you installed -8 from upgrades? | 09:14 |
HiddenWolf | gnomefreak: I put the deb on a usbstick and dpkg -i did the trick | 09:15 |
gnomefreak | ah | 09:15 |
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HiddenWolf | BenC: mjg59: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/61291 | 09:24 |
HiddenWolf | if there is anything else you need I'm happy to provide it, else I'll toss in a dapper xubuntu disk and be done with it. | 09:25 |
BenC | I'll check on it when I get that far in my bug list :) | 09:27 |
BenC | I'll let you know, thanks | 09:27 |
Nafallo | BenC: rt61 still broken, just updated the bugreport :-) | 09:27 |
HiddenWolf | BenC: no problem, I'd be happy to help. | 09:27 |
Nafallo | rt61pci even | 09:27 |
BenC | Nafallo: still broken because the package isn't uploaded yet | 09:27 |
BenC | I just put it into git | 09:28 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: That's a dmesg without having inserted the card, right? | 09:28 |
Nafallo | BenC: oh? There is another coming? :-) | 09:28 |
Nafallo | hehe, I thought it was this one that I just rebooted to :-P | 09:28 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: seems like it. | 09:29 |
BenC | no, not yet | 09:29 |
Nafallo | BenC: if you have a daily kernel or something I would be happy to try it out. | 09:29 |
BenC | Nafallo: none built right now, but I'll get one up tonight | 09:30 |
Nafallo | BenC: nice. could you add that to the bug-report when it's available? | 09:31 |
Nafallo | (the url) | 09:31 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: putting up a dmesg with card inserted now | 09:33 |
HiddenWolf | there | 09:34 |
zul | less mmc.c | 09:35 |
BenC | Nafallo: it's in the topic | 09:37 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: It appears to be identical | 09:42 |
mjg59 | Oh, no, sorry | 09:42 |
HiddenWolf | :) | 09:43 |
HiddenWolf | ifconfig shows lo only, pppoeconf offers to run modconf instead of picking it up. | 09:43 |
mjg59 | What sort of card is it? | 09:43 |
HiddenWolf | ethernet | 09:44 |
mjg59 | Yes, what sort? | 09:44 |
mjg59 | Make/model | 09:44 |
HiddenWolf | It's in one of the comments | 09:44 |
HiddenWolf | unex corp MD010C | 09:44 |
mjg59 | And it's cardbus rather than pcmcia? | 09:45 |
HiddenWolf | I wouldn't know the difference, honestly. | 09:46 |
HiddenWolf | It says cardbus on it, so yeah | 09:46 |
mjg59 | When it's in, what does pccardctl status print? | 09:48 |
HiddenWolf | of course he asks that just after I shut it down. One moment. =) | 09:49 |
HiddenWolf | socket 0; no card, socket 1; no card | 09:51 |
HiddenWolf | ah, wait | 09:53 |
HiddenWolf | after inserting it again, socket 1: 3.3V 32-bit PC Card | 09:53 |
mjg59 | And lspci now? | 09:53 |
HiddenWolf | no difference | 09:54 |
mjg59 | And nothing else in dmesg? | 09:56 |
HiddenWolf | dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24024 | 09:59 |
HiddenWolf | lscpi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24025 | 10:00 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: ^^ | 10:08 |
HiddenWolf | That's with the card picked up (as per /var/log/kern.log and pccardctl) | 10:09 |
zul | right im heading home.. | 10:09 |
BenC | zul: later | 10:30 |
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mjg59 | BenC: #53910 - it gets taken care of on amd64, it doesn't get taken care of on x86 | 12:06 |
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