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kitchecaliban: what do you mean by find iso 9660 file12:01
Jack_Sparrowcaliban: that is a file format not a file12:01
Kill_Xumask=007 as mount option is mostly sufficient12:01
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Kill_X(00 because writing is disabled by the standard driver itself)12:01
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calibanJack_Sparrow, because, my cdrom cant be mount12:01
Kill_Xbmcfarli, so what about your fstab?12:01
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, feel free to query me, too12:02
kitchecaliban: why is your cdrom broken?12:02
calibankitche, yep :(12:03
Jack_Sparrowbmcfarli: sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup      good idea to make a backup.....12:03
calibankitche, i dont know whats happen12:03
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bmcfarli/tmp/disks-conf-hda2 is its location in the drivers app12:03
bmcfarlibut it needs to be mounted as a media....12:03
bmcfarlii think12:03
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, okay12:04
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, I'll open a query12:04
calibankitche, just mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected12:04
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kitchecaliban: hmm there is a way but you have to use a live cd and it will be hard for someone not use to linux12:05
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Lord_Athurhi all, I need to use a windows program for a mathematical homework(it's name is "Derive"). is there any similar version for linux?12:06
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calibankitche, sorry if i use live cd i'll never learn12:06
MalnilionLord_Athur, have you tried running it under wine?12:06
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jpjacobsLord_Athur, there is maxima and yaca12:06
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jpjacobsyacas*12:06
Kill_Xbmcfarli, did you get the private message?12:06
antonio_salve12:07
Kill_Xbmcfarli, if so, please respond :)12:07
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jpjacobsand maple (but that's expensive proprietary software) also has a linux version12:07
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Lord_Athurthanks, i'll try to install those programs.12:07
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Kill_XJack_Sparrow, why sudo to copy fstab? ;)12:08
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Jack_Sparrowforce of habit...12:08
Kill_X;)12:08
Kill_Xwell...12:09
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ganja_hey, does anyone can suggest me any msn client? like, Gaim? can i download the Sim software by apt ?12:09
Kill_Xhe doesn't answer my query.12:09
Jack_SparrowIf a backup exists... it allows him to overwrite it with the current one12:09
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georgyganja_ : amsn and yes12:10
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, a backup is generally a good idea12:10
ganja_georgy, sim is better then gaim ?12:10
Kill_Xbut in my opinion, only at the source directory12:10
sureshothey jack how are you12:10
Jack_SparrowKill_X: Which is why I suggested it12:10
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georgyganja : I just use amsn for the msn stuff12:10
Jack_Sparrowfine sureshot12:10
Lord_Athurjpjacobs, are those programmes graphical ones?12:10
MetaMorfoziShi all12:11
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, I know... But I don't see why to sudo when copying to ~12:11
davvshow do i shut down the xserver?12:11
Jack_SparrowKill_X: I'm not going to debate it with you...12:11
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kitcheKill_X: you have to sudo since a regular user can't read /etc/fstab or even able to copy it12:11
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, I'm just kidding :(12:11
redguydavvs: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop12:11
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redguydavvs: or kdm if you're using kde12:12
Kill_Xkitche, that is definitely wrong.12:12
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davvsthanks redguy, im using gnome12:12
davvswill it work?12:12
redguydavvs: gdm then12:12
davvsok, thanks12:12
bmcfarliguys i am so confused12:12
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Jack_SparrowKill_X: Always gksudo nautilus....   noooooooooooooo12:13
bmcfarliallow me to switch irc client12:13
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, uh12:13
kitcheKill_X: well /etc/fstab is owned by root so it shouldn't be able to copy it at least that's how my system works but I know that users can read it but they can't do anything with the file12:13
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Kill_Xkitche, yes. and it got go+r permissions.12:13
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Samuli^kitche, sure you can copy it to a folder you own.12:13
jpjacobsLord_Athur, well, no, there is xmaxima, which is graphical, and proteus-worksheet a frontend to yacas which is still under development12:13
Kill_Xkitche, which means everyone is able to read and copy it.12:13
bmcfarliI am sorry12:14
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, never mind :)12:14
Jack_SparrowWe can all agree there are more ways than one to solve most problems12:14
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, what client do you use currently?12:14
Samuli^I don't think there's one file you can't at least read.12:14
bmcfarliDapper12:14
rmdanyone know how to turn off join/part messages in irssi?12:14
Samuli^by default of course.12:14
kalifkitche: anybody can read fstab - and copy it12:14
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bmcfarliirc or ubuntu?12:14
kalifrmd /ignore * joins12:14
Kill_Xbmcfarli, sorry, I meant what IRC client :)12:15
bmcfarliI was on Xchat12:15
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Kill_Xand now?12:15
kitchekalif: hmmm not on any of my systems they can't I have all the perms set up so only root can touch it12:15
rmdyou are fantastic, kalif, thank you12:15
Jack_Sparrowkalif: also depends on where they plan on writing the copy..12:15
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bmcfarlinow i am using Xchat gnome12:15
bmcfarlilol so the same thing I assume12:15
kalifJack_Sparrow: true12:15
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kalifkitche: strange12:15
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bmcfarliwhat would a proper client be?12:15
Kill_Xbmcfarli, look out for a thing called Kill_X on your right pane12:16
kalifkitche: why?12:16
Samuli^I'm curious about this too.12:16
SpudDoggDoes anyone know how to make Firefox play streaming windows media videos?12:16
Jack_SparrowKill_X: wants to do it in private...12:16
cafuegoSpudDogg: mplayer mozilla plugin12:16
SpudDoggcafuego, will look.  thanks man12:16
lupine_85Hello ladies and gents. Ignoring the complete lack of content and good lucks for the moment, i'd appreciate opinions on the potential utility of this site:- http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/wireless/12:16
jpjacobsLord_Athur, that appears to be yacas-proteus here12:16
georgySpudDogg : and w32codecs12:16
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, I just want him to get that one non-confusing12:16
Kill_Xis that a problem?12:17
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Thorrn4SpudDogg, I kno that konqueror can use mplayer to play those12:17
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kitchekalif: why not I don't want people to mess with fstab12:17
bmcfarlican  crash your system i assume12:17
Jack_SparrowWe dont want you to give him bad info that will kill_x...  :)12:17
Samuli^kitche, well they won't if they have no write rights.12:17
Kill_Xso do it yourself12:17
CromagDK!edgy12:17
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule12:17
Jack_SparrowJUst do it in channel...12:17
CromagDK!schedule12:17
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:17
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bmcfarlii could care less if it crashes at this point...i just want my hardrives....I can always reinstall12:18
Kill_Xbmcfarli, well... is there a line with /dev/hda2 within your fstab file?12:18
SpudDoggcafuego, georgy, do either of you know the entire package name for w32codecs?12:18
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rmdSpudDogg: w32codecs is the whole name.12:18
Kill_Xif not, you would have to add one...12:18
cafuegoSpudDogg: They're not in Ubuntu istef.12:19
rmddownload easyubuntu12:19
rummikAAAHHH!!!one! i can't update packages! "files list file for package `libgl1-mesa-dri' is missing final newline"12:19
kitcheSpudDogg: win32codecs12:19
SpudDoggrmd, when i sudo apt-get install w32codecs, there is none12:19
lupine_85no, w32codecs12:19
lupine_85it's in the PLF repos12:19
lupine_85!plf12:19
ubotuplf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc12:19
rmdthats because they are not in your repositories12:19
bmcfarliyes12:19
Samuli^bmcfarli, have you used mount to mount your partitions?12:19
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lupine_85!repositories12:19
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:19
rmdSpudDogg: google easybuntu and use that12:19
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, you see?12:19
Lord_Athurthanks a lot, bye12:19
bmcfarliwhere is this mount that you speak of?12:19
Jack_SparrowSpudDogg: Dont do that...12:20
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Jack_SparrowAutomatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.12:20
Samuli^bmcfarli, it's a program that let's you mount partitions.12:20
inglo1hey, I need help installing XGL, I know nothing12:20
inglo1would anyone mind walking me through?12:20
rmdJack_Sparrow: I agree about Automatix, not about easyubuntu12:20
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, he does most likely get confused if X people want to help him.12:20
EmptyGRRR WTH is wrong with my ubuntu install12:20
rmdThe packages it installed are visible in synaptic and easily removed.12:20
SpudDoggJack_Sparrow: Do you know how to make Firefox stream videos from utube, etc?12:20
bmcfarliok, i could use that at this point...where would you suggest getting it?12:20
Lam_!ping12:20
ubotuping: connection timeout12:20
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, just because everyone tells him something else12:21
rmdAutomatix, however, is total crap.12:21
Jack_Sparroweasyubuntu has been vastly improved....  agreed.12:21
rummikhow do i fix this? "files list file for package `libgl1-mesa-dri' is missing final newline"12:21
sc0t^^hello!12:21
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, that for, I'm used to solve problems within queries.12:21
georgySpugDogg : deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free to you /etc/apt/sources.list12:21
sc0t^^anyone knows why my ubuntu only shows up half screen=12:21
kitche!xgl > inglo112:21
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, just my $0.0212:21
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EmptyIt's a dapper install on an ibm t42 thinkp[ad(ati mobility 7500 vid) and earlier this weekend it started randomly turning off the display12:21
CromagDK!pastebin12:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:21
davvswhat's ubuntu's libc development package?12:21
eyequeueEmpty, i didn't see the thread earlier, tell us what the symptopms are and maybe someone can help12:21
inglo1I know what XGL is, I need someone to help me install it12:21
Samuli^bmcfarli, basicly you do: sudo mount /dev/hda2 (for example) where you want to mount it (/home/username/hda2 for example12:22
eyequeueEmpty, ouch12:22
Subhumaninglo1, join #ubuntu-xgl12:22
Jack_SparrowKill_X: You can also understand some people can come here under the pretense of helping, take people to private query and fry their systems12:22
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kitcheinglo1: it should have gave you the link to help you install it12:22
EmptyI am in it via ssh right now, and vncserver works too, just normal display is affected12:22
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inglo1yeah, I can't figure out the link12:22
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, I understand your concerns12:22
eyequeueEmpty, let me ask this, what changed around that point it started happeneing?  any package changes?12:22
Emptyand its affected for a brand new user so it's systemic12:22
EmptyI updated12:22
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Kill_XJack_Sparrow, the problem is... no beginner would be able to follow suggestions of 2 or 3 people at once.12:23
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EmptyHave not really installed much other than that... I added apache2 and some perl libs earlier last week but I doubt they'd hose vid/x12:23
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eyequeueEmpty, hmm, display issues are not usually my forte, but do you happen to know what packages were installed there that updated?12:23
kitcheKill_X: that's why they just listen to one but others can give suggestions12:23
rummikhow do i add a final new line to the list file for the package 'libgl1-mesa-dri'?12:23
eyequeueEmpty, agreed12:23
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, I agree 100% that there are abusive users in here12:23
eyequeueEmpty, also, there is half of me that wonders if this is a coincidental hardware issue12:24
sc0t^^my dapper only shows up in half screen and because of that i cant see half of the image because i just dont shows up12:24
Kill_Xkitche, so how do they within a channel flooded with suggestions12:24
Jack_SparrowKill_X: Some of us are regulars... we would not question an op wanting to take someone aside, especially when we are swamped...12:24
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sc0t^^anyone knows whyis this happening?12:24
Emptyeyequeue, packages updated included the kernel and the kernel mod package with the ati drivers12:24
bmcfarlilol guys, i can do all tasks at once, I am use to somewhat use to unix, the problem comes that my hard drive is mounted a a temp and not a media. any suggestions?12:24
EmptyBUT my symprtoms are different from the other people having problems12:25
secleinteerhey, the ephpod page says that it's for windows and linux, but there's no linux download link. does anyone know where i can get the linux version?12:25
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Emptyand their fix did not fix my box12:25
eyequeueEmpty, okay, hat is actually a promising thing, imo :)  you had, say, -25 before, and it went to -26 (btw, -27 is out as of today)12:25
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Samuli^bmcfarli, mount --bind "directory where it is mounted" "new directory"12:25
Jack_Sparrowbmcfarli: Post your fstab to the pastebin and supply channel with the reference number..12:25
bmcfarlipl12:25
kitchesecleinteer: it's for windows only12:25
Jack_Sparrow!pastebin12:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:26
bmcfarliok12:26
eyequeueEmpty, i would try booting to the last known-good-for-you kernel, see if that resolves the issue12:26
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, I absolutely agree with you. I understand your principles perfectly.12:26
secleinteerk12:26
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Samuli^bmcfarli, really, it doesn't matter where it is mounted, just change the directory.12:26
secleinteeri guess their page is just misleading12:26
Jack_SparrowNothing personal I assure you..12:26
kitchesecleinteer: their page says nothing about linux12:26
inglorhey, quick, what's the command to launch the text editor12:26
secleinteerlook at their title12:26
Emptyeyequeue, last known does nothing for me, nor does -2712:26
inglorlike, what is the simple text editor called?12:26
secleinteerthe title of the page12:26
Samuli^inglor, nano?12:26
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, I am sorry if I just had corrupted these guidelines.12:26
inglorthe nano gui12:26
lupine_85gedit? nano? kate? joe?12:26
Jack_Sparrowgksudo gedit12:26
lupine_85emacs... ;)12:26
secleinteer"iPod for Windows (and Linux)"12:26
kitchesecleinteer: their page only says windows12:26
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eyequeueEmpty, you ca do that manually from the grub menu, and if you find it does fix things, you can make it your default kernel with the "default" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and then sudo update-grub12:27
inglorthe little nano gui12:27
secleinteerare you looking at the title of the page?12:27
cpk1vi?12:27
Samuli^there's few 'simple' text-editors for linux indeed :)12:27
Jack_Sparrowtoo many options...12:27
inglornot vi :/12:27
Emptyeyequeue, I might just reinstall the older packages for everything12:27
inglorthe gui one12:27
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inglorthat comes in default in ubuntu12:27
kitchesecleinteer: yes but their page only says windows12:27
secleinteerok12:27
Samuli^inglor, gedit?12:27
SkifSomehow, my timezone info has been corrupted; ubuntu now thinks Mountain time == UTC.  Should I try to reinstall libc6?12:27
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secleinteerthen is there another good ipod program that supports album art? i tried gtkpod and the album art doesn't really work12:27
Kill_Xbmcfarli, did you paste your fstab to pastebin?12:27
Emptyeyequeue, just FYI I am a senior admin on debian clusters ;) Just not so hot on the Xorg stuff12:27
inglorsamuli^, yep, that's the one, thanks12:27
eyequeueEmpty, i was hoping it might be something as simple as -26 misbahves with your particular hardware12:27
sc0t^^my image only apears half screen .... anyone knows why?12:27
sc0t^^??12:27
Emptyeyequeue, I was too ;)12:27
secleinteerthe cover only appears for the first track of that album12:28
eyequeueEmpty, thanks for telling me, it gives me a better feel for how to talk, lol12:28
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anime_warswhere would be a good place to learn about wine for a linux newbie?12:28
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secleinteerdoes amarok's ipod support work with album art?12:28
thetruthi downloaded opera_9.01-20060728.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb   !  do I install it: dpkg -i opera_9.01-20060728.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb  ?12:28
Jack_Sparrow!winehq12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winehq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
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lupine_85thetruth: add sudo, and you'r there12:28
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Samuli^thetruth, yes. or use the gdebi.12:28
eyequeuelupine_85, symlink?  what to what?12:28
Kill_Xanime_wars, depends on what you are planning to do with wine...12:28
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Emptyeyequeue, I think he thought we were talking *just* about grub12:29
bmcfarliyes but it was a while ago12:29
thetruthwhats gdebi?12:29
bmcfarli!pastebin12:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:29
eyequeuelupine_85, you're thinking in another category than i am, i suspect, broaden my perspective :)12:29
Emptyeg ln -s /boot/foo /baz12:29
anime_warskill_x, i want to run a couple of windows programs that I can't use on Linux12:29
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georgy!gdebi12:29
thetruth! gdebi12:29
Samuli^thetruth, graphical deb installer.12:29
kitchesecleinteer: anyways ephpod sounds like it breaks ipods12:29
ubotugdebi: Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.4ubuntu13 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 684 kB12:29
lupine_85I only caught the end of the conversation, but if the partition is being mounted in /tmp, when it needs to be in /media, why not use a symlink in /media ?12:29
thetruthSamuli^: ill install it12:29
Jack_Sparrowbmcfarli: We need the reference number to find it..12:29
lupine_85Or did I miss the point completely? ;)12:29
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motin_I have got trouble with connecting to WPA-SPK secured network.  Is there any debug log available that tells me what is actually going on behind the NetworkManager?12:29
bmcfarlihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2392112:29
Samuli^thetruth, you should have it by default if you're using dapper12:29
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, just one second :)12:30
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secleinteerkitche: i used ephpod on windows for years and it never caused any problems. what did was winamp :(12:30
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thetruthSamuli^: how I run it?12:30
alex222hey12:30
Jack_Sparrowlupine_85: we are not sure where it is mounted yet..12:30
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Emptylupine_85, I haver vid issues12:30
alex222when i play movies they lag w/ XGL enabled12:30
lupine_85ah, ok12:30
eyequeueEmpty, yeah, this hw issue is odd, but it certainly could have been a kernel matter, and i was hoping ... you tried running some older kernel, maybe -25, with no luck either?12:30
Samuli^thetruth, by typing gksudo gdebi I think. :)12:30
kitcheanime_wars: you can try wine if you haven't already12:30
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Emptyeyequeue, right, no luck on that12:30
Kill_XJack_Sparrow, look for bmcfarli in the Recent posts section...12:30
eyequeueEmpty, dang :(12:30
Kill_XI can't get a proper connection right now :/12:31
Kill_XH12:31
Kill_Xah12:31
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Kill_XJack_Sparrow, got it:12:31
Kalmm_on an reiserfs partition , I erase with rm some important files , is it anyway to recover them?12:31
Kill_XJack_Sparrow,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2392112:31
thetruthSamuli^: doenst load12:32
Jack_SparrowI see it.12:32
Kill_Xas I expected.12:32
Samuli^thetruth, well read what it outputs.12:32
Kill_Xbmcfarli, try following12:32
thetruthSamuli^: To use the graphical user interface, right-click12:32
thetruthon a '.deb' software package in the file browser12:32
thetruthand select: Open with 'GDebi Package Installer'.12:32
bmcfarliok12:32
Kill_Xbmcfarli, first of all12:32
Samuli^thetruth. So.. do that then :)12:32
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, do you still have the terminal opened I told you to open some time ago?12:33
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bmcfarligot it back12:33
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eyequeueEmpty, i'm out of ideas, myself, sorry12:33
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mumbleshow do i remboley login to a ubuntu comptuer ?12:33
Kill_Xso press CTRL+X12:33
bmcfarlik12:34
eyequeuemumbles, ssh yourname@yourubuntumachine12:34
Emptyeyequeue, NP, thanks for the effort :)12:34
mumblessorry i should of said using vnc ?12:34
Kill_Xbmcfarli, now enter 'sudo -s'12:34
eyequeueEmpty, i wish it had been more fruitful12:34
bmcfarlinow in root12:34
eyequeuemumbles, no idea, i don't use that12:34
mumblesah right a googaling i shall go12:34
Emptyeyequeue, Yeah me too ;)12:34
] GoldenDragonhi, I currently have 3 partitions on my HD, 1 with XP, 1 with Ubuntu, and 1 FAT32 Partition that I want to use to share files between the two systems.. can someone lead me in the right direction towards this end? =] 12:34
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eyequeuemumbles, good luck though12:34
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NthDegree] GoldenDragon, try mounting the FAT32 partition in your home directory12:35
eyequeuemumbles, while in google, look up "vnc over ssh" to make it secure12:35
Kill_Xbmcfarli, first of all, enter 'cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.prehda212:35
Kill_X'12:35
bmcfarliok i already made a copy though12:35
Kill_Xbmcfarli, fine12:36
terlmannNthdegree?12:36
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NthDegree?12:36
] GoldenDragonhow would I be able to do that? O_o I don't see it in My Computer(on ubuntu.)12:36
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, so, you are safe to enter 'nano -w /etc/fstab'12:36
bmcfarliyes12:36
NthDegree] GoldenDragon, try adding the partition to /etc/fstab12:36
Kill_Xbmcfarli, add a new line with:12:37
=== ] GoldenDragon wouldnt know how.
Jack_Sparrow] GoldenDragon: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop12:37
NthDegreeyou'll need to know what device it is e.g. /dev/hdd12:37
eyequeuegoldendragon, i can't seem to type you nick here12:37
fooIf I want to be able to ssh into my ubuntu box and do X forwarding .. I need to install X on the ubuntu box, right? or no?12:37
] GoldenDragonGD is fine =] 12:37
Jack_Sparroweyequeue: above your enter key..12:37
eyequeuegoldendragon, be sure to use "defaults,uid=" in fstab for it12:37
NthDegreeJack_Sparrow ya so full of helpful scripts lol12:37
kitchefoo: yes but it wouldn't show the full X screen it only does the applications12:37
eyequeuegoldendragon, your uid is probably 100012:37
Jack_SparrowONly ONes I have personally written or tested12:37
thetruthSamuli^: it says cant install opera, needs Package libqt3-mt is not installed.12:38
] GoldenDragonshould I just use the Diskmounter?12:38
thetruthSamuli^: what can I do?12:38
thetruthSamuli^: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt ?12:38
eyequeuegoldendragon, otherwise yhou'll need to use sudo for every single access of that partition, and i doubt that's desirable, heh12:38
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Samuli^thtruth, wait a minute.. why are you installing opera from outside the repositories anyways?12:38
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Kill_Xbmcfarli: /dev/hda2[TAB] /media/hda2[TAB] ntfs[TAB] noauto,users,umask=007[TAB] 0[TAB] 012:39
fookitche: right... so I do need to install x. hm, thanks12:39
] GoldenDragonso use that Diskmounter script Jack Sparrow showed me? okay =] 12:39
eyequeuegoldendragon, diskmounter is a fui tool?  i'm not familiar with it, but i'm not a gui guy12:39
Kill_Xbmcfarli, use your tabulator key everytime I entered [TAB] 12:39
] GoldenDragonit is just a script.12:39
] GoldenDragoni dont think its gui.12:39
Samuli^thetruth, If you have a reason to install deb from outside the repos, then yes :)12:39
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Jack_SparrowNot gui12:39
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thedashwould there be any good reason why Azureus thinks my hard drive is read-only when it isn't?12:40
Jack_Sparrowthree lines of instructions at the top of the script12:40
mumbleseyequeue done anything with terminal server ?12:40
thetruthSamuli^: but opera isnt on the repos12:40
Samuli^thetruth, I find that hard to believe.12:40
eyequeuemumbles, no i use ssh myself12:40
] GoldenDragonahh wait, I've definately used this script before..12:40
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theBenokalif, You there?12:40
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] GoldenDragonI still only see 2 partitions in my computer... Ubuntu and XP, not the empty FAT32 partition12:40
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starscalling:>12:40
starscallinginstalling ubuntu on  my brother's lappy12:40
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bmcfarliok now save it?12:41
eyequeuegoldendragon, even with sudo fdisk -l ?12:41
Kill_Xbmcfarli, press CTRL+O and then CTRL+W12:41
Samuli^!opera12:41
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:41
Samuli^thetruth, it _is_ in the repos12:41
Kill_Xbmcfarli, I forgot to ask: do you want to automount it at linux startup?12:41
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bmcfarliyes12:42
Samuli^thetruth, you probably just don't have the right repositories enabled.12:42
starscallingbut in my experience installing from repos sux12:42
Kill_Xsorry12:42
starscalling:/12:42
starscallingfollow the wiki12:42
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tiedehi all. Someone knows how I can make the Debian menu appear? I am using dapper. I remember in Hoary and Breezy all I had to do was 'sudo apt-get install menu' but it seems that's not enough...12:42
kitcheSamuli^: by default ubuntu hides commercial applications12:42
starscallingtiede, yeah easy12:42
Kill_Xbmcfarli, then reopen fstab with 'nano -w /etc/fstab'12:42
rukuarticHey there, I'm just having some problems with video codecs. I'm trying to watch a movie, and it used to work fine. However now, all the colors are messed up like its some psychadelic experience.12:42
starscallingsudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg12:42
starscallingwhen it installs12:42
lostincIs there a way to recover a file that I deleted and then emptied the trash can?12:42
starscallingupdate-menus12:42
starscallingthen12:43
rmjb_tiede: run alacarte12:43
Kill_Xbmcfarli, and replace the 'noauto' in the /dev/hda2 line with 'auto'12:43
starscallingkillall gnome-panel12:43
starscallingand vua la there it is12:43
bmcfarliand do you not need to know the position of the partition12:43
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georgylostinc: no12:43
rukuarticlostinc: Not easily.12:43
Samuli^kitche, well, yeah. one needs to uncomment multiverse from the sources.list, I think.12:43
starscallingdo those things in a terminal ok rukuartic ?12:43
thetruthlostinc: no12:43
rukuarticstarscalling: Really thats it?12:43
Kill_Xbmcfarli, after that again CTRL+O and CTRL+X12:43
tiedeIt's disabled in Alacarte12:43
bmcfarliok12:43
thetruthlostinc: unless you get some hardware undelte utils12:43
Kill_Xbmcfarli, done?12:43
starscallingyup12:43
Samuli^tiede, so enable it :)12:43
bmcfarliyes12:43
thetruthlostinc: the feds can retrieve it12:43
rukuarticstarscalling: Why's that causing the video to mess up?12:43
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thetruthlostinc: so ask them ;)12:43
starscalling?12:43
Jack_SparrowSamuli^: non-free and commercial too?12:43
lostinctheTruth HOW?>12:44
tiedeI meant it's greyed out. Can't tick the box ;)12:44
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starscallingwhat does showing the debian menu have to do with the video messing up?12:44
Kill_Xbmcfarli, now enter 'mkdir /media/hda2'12:44
rukuarticstarscalling: I think you're answering the wrong person's question :P12:44
starscallingi think so12:44
starscallinglets take a look at yours12:44
Samuli^Jack_Sparrow, umm, is there a repository called commercial or non-free? I thought that was what multiverse is all about.12:44
starscallingum12:44
starscallingah12:44
bmcfarlik12:44
starscallingwhat are u using to watch the video12:44
thetruthlostinc: only a professional can get yoour file back!  unless you want to do it yourself which is complicated12:44
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, now 'mount -a'12:44
Jack_SparrowSamuli^: IN synaptic you have those options to check as well..12:44
lostincLOL I am willing to try12:45
Kill_Xbmcfarli, any errors?12:45
starscallingwhat are u using to watch the video @rukuartic12:45
rmjb_tiede: even if you enable the submenus? In mine when I do that the Debian menu comes up12:45
rukuarticstarscalling: Totem...12:45
bmcfarliount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/hda2 busy12:45
bmcfarlimount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hda212:45
Samuli^Jack_Sparrow, ok, well I'm sure all it does is uncomment universe and multiverse from sources.list12:45
thetruthlostinc: are you an experienved linux user?12:45
Jack_SparrowWhat format is that video..?12:45
rukuarticstarscalling: Vlc and xine seem to be messed up too12:45
rukuarticFormat's mpg, avi... pretty much everything12:45
lostincSomewhat12:45
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bmcfarliwhich it is....12:45
tiedeThe submenus are enabled, yes. It still won't show up rmjb_12:45
lostincI certainly can follow instructions12:45
starscallingmm12:45
fooI am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm12:45
lupine_85e2undel works for ext2 partitions... dont' think there's anything for reiser, though :(12:45
rcsolutionsHey all, when I try to open the Firefox Preferences, I get this message: "XML Parsing Error: Syntax Error; Location: chrome//browser/content/pref/pref.xul; Line Number 1, Column 1; ttribute = "disabled";" and a "^" pointing to the first 't' of ttribute. How do I solve that problem? thanks.12:45
foo$ vncviewer12:45
starscallingwhat have you installed lately rukuartic12:45
fooError: Can't open display:12:46
mrbrdoone question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?12:46
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, then umount /tmp12:46
tiedestarscalling, I tried apt-get install menu menu-xdg but got nothing...12:46
oferhow it is possible to uninstall opera browser and install the new version? (already downloaded the new version)12:46
Jack_SparrowSchool must have gotten out, we just got busy...12:46
Kill_Xbmcfarli, STOP12:46
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bmcfarlipl12:46
habakkukNthDegree: here?12:46
bmcfarliokj12:46
habakkuk;] 12:46
Kill_Xbmcfarli, DO NOT!12:46
bmcfarliok it didnt work.....12:46
mrbrdoone question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?12:46
starscallingtiede,12:46
starscallingsudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg12:46
starscallingit should install the menu12:46
Kill_Xbmcfarli, enter 'mount'12:46
efferhelp!  i've followed the HOWTO on installing the ATI drivers (had to reinstall them after a kernel upgrade), but when i do 'fglrxinfo', i'm still getting mesa! :(12:47
rmjb_tiede: well I'm lot now, sorry, but I'm new at Ubuntu also so maybe someone else here can help12:47
NthDegreehabakkuk, what's the issue m8?12:47
starscallingthen in that terminal do " update-menus " as regular user12:47
starscallingthen12:47
starscallingkillall gnome-panel12:47
Kill_Xbmcfarli, there should be a line with /dev/hda212:47
rukuarticGonna reboot... brb12:47
Kill_Xbmcfarli, what is it mounted on?12:47
tiedeI DID do sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg starscalling... Do I need to do a killall gnome-panel too?12:47
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bmcfarli/tmp/disks-conf-hda212:47
tiedeI'll try it any way.12:47
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mrbrdoone question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?12:48
starscallingyes12:48
eyequeuei hope everyone here has a short uptime!12:48
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starscallingyou need to kill the panels12:48
NthDegreeyes i'm here Vanique :)12:48
starscallingthey come right back automagically tiede12:48
Kill_Xbmcfarli, okay: umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda212:48
lupine_85mrbrodo: which module?12:48
Bend4rthey what's the best music player out there for ubuntu ? im used to using itunes on mac and winamp on windows ? any suggestions ? '12:48
iceman24kthere a way to write to a NTFS drive, I can read it12:48
tiedeI noticed that now the box is ticked in Alacarte, starscalling. Although I still don't see the debian menu...12:48
lupine_85and why do you need to rebuild it?12:48
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Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: Not advised...12:48
mrbrdolupine_85: bcm43xx12:48
eyequeueBend4rt, beep-media-player is nice12:48
lupine_85Bend4rt: amarok :).  xmms is like winamp, though12:48
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, after that 'mount -a' again12:49
fooI am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display:12:49
Bend4rtk thanks i'll check them out12:49
fooAny ideas?12:49
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mrbrdolupine_85: i just need to change something in bcm43xx_main.c, that's all. i don't want to build a custom kernel just over that12:49
Samuli^Bend4rt, amarok is really cool. Rhythmbox is okay too.12:49
Kill_Xbmcfarli, still errors?12:49
iceman24kJack_Sparrow even moving a folder between the linux drive and the NTFS drive ?12:49
lupine_85mrbrodo: ok, if you can get the module source form their site, you can compile that... much easier than using the stuff in the kernel source12:49
Bend4rtty12:49
eyequeuefoo, it sounds like you are using vnc there12:49
bmcfarlimount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,12:49
bmcfarli       missing codepage or other error12:49
bmcfarli       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try12:49
bmcfarli       dmesg | tail  or so12:49
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Samuli^Bend4rt, amarok in gnome can draw a lot of kde-stuff with it though.12:49
Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: Writing anything to ntfs is a problem12:49
eyequeuefoo, are you starting from an X box?12:49
mrbrdolupine_85: is there a way with using ubuntu stuff too?12:49
starscallingtiede,12:49
tiedeok starscalling, killall gnome-panel made it work.... I don't know why I had to do that, though..12:49
fooeyequeue: Yup. I just installed xserver-xorg12:50
starscallingthats the way it is12:50
starscalling;p12:50
lupine_85mrbrodo: sure. Download the kernel source and go from there12:50
Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: THere is fuse and ntfs-3g... but... still not 100% safe12:50
Kill_Xbmcfarli, so 'dmesg | tail' and paste the output to pastebin12:50
eyequeuefoo, are you using ssh -X ?12:50
rcsolutionsIs there anyone avaliable???12:50
scarsofwarholasssss12:50
fooeyequeue: yes sir12:50
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eyequeuefoo, those were my only 2 ideas, sorry12:50
tiedethanks a lot starscalling!!! And thanks to you to, rmjb_ !12:50
mrbrdolupine_85: not possible to download from site - it says it's built into kernel12:50
Samuli^iceman24k, I think there's a program to write _safely_ to ntfs though. It uses the windows .dll's. Try google for it :)12:50
mrbrdolupine_85: yes i have the kernel source, but how can i only update the modules now?12:50
Jack_SparrowHere is my fav link for the broadcom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper12:50
scarsofwarhello, i need hellp12:50
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mrbrdolupine_85: or only this module, but not the kernel12:51
fooeyequeue: hm, thanks anyways. Anyone else?12:51
bmcfarliumount /tmp/disks-conf-hda212:51
bmcfarlisorry12:51
iceman24kJack_Sparrow well that totaly sucks. makes me want a Fat32 install for linux. again12:51
bmcfarliNTFS-fs error (device hda2): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option umak.12:51
Jack_Sparrow!ntfs-3g12:51
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171012:51
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lupine_85mrbrodo: well "make modules" will build just the modules... you can then copy the appropriate .ko files over12:51
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mrbrdolupine_85: i tried to change EXTRAVERSION so it matched my current version, but after i installed those modules, they were unloadable. i think linux-sources is different than my current kernel12:51
eyequeuebmcfarli, umaSk?12:51
Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: I have a fat32 just for that reason.12:51
lupine_85I'm sure there's another way to do it, though12:51
mrbrdolupine_85: i did make modules_install too12:51
Samuli^Jack_Sparrow, I don't think that's the one.12:51
iceman24kJack_Sparrow got the link thanks12:51
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bmcfarlithats all it said12:51
lupine_85mrbrodo: you didn't want to do make modules_install ;)12:51
mrbrdolupine_85: but it didn't work, like i said.. it wasn't loadable12:51
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scarsofwarsombody knows how install flex and bison and all their dependences12:52
mrbrdolupine_85: so, i do make modules. what then?12:52
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eyequeuebmcfarli, try umask, as i know for sure imak is not an option12:52
Kill_Xbmcfarli, reopen fstab with 'nano -w /etc/fstab'12:52
Paddy_EIREwhere would one get all those naked ubuntu wallpapers12:52
bmcfarlik there12:52
iceman24kJack_Sparrow makes me wish i knew linux better, if only i could update winlinux 2000 to a new kernel and Ubuntu easy  :(12:52
Kill_Xbmcfarli, replace 'umak' with 'umask'12:52
lupine_85just copy the .ko over - it should work, assuming you have the right source12:52
Paddy_EIRE:D12:52
mrbrdolupine_85: and, do i need to modify the EXTRAVERSION to match my current version?12:52
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lupine_85mrbrodo: it can't hurt12:53
vicscandl!webcam > vicscandl12:53
eyequeuePaddy_EIRE, the hoary distro i think, "calendar"12:53
bmcfarliok it mounted now12:53
mrbrdolupine_85: because by default extraversion is .11-ubuntu1, but mine is -7-38612:53
bmcfarlirestart?12:53
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mrbrdolupine_85: but, when i did that and make modules_install, it didn't work12:53
eyequeuePaddy_EIRE, maybe it was warty?12:53
Jack_SparrowKill_X: That script is looking better all the time eh?12:53
mrbrdolupine_85: i don't see how it's different if i just copy the ko over12:53
Kill_Xbmcfarli, are you able to access the partition as normal iser?12:53
iceman24kJack_Sparrow heck even a Slackware build using zipslack and adding x, but it gets corrupt and missing files12:53
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eyequeuebmcfarli, linux only needs a reboot for a new kernel (and there was one today, security)12:54
bmcfarlisays i still lack permission12:54
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Kill_XJack_Sparrow, don't you ever misspell something?12:54
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Hi, how did that trick on your cpu cooling work out?12:54
mrbrdolupine_85: ?12:54
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Jack_SparrowKill_X: All ds time12:54
eyequeuei hope everyone here has a short uptime!12:54
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, I meant normal user :/12:54
Jack_SparrowKill_X: Fat fingers typing way too fast12:54
jojoman02i think we all need the "workrave" package from repo's12:55
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bmcfarliright i lack permission12:55
eyequeue!info workrave12:55
ubotuworkrave: RSI prevention tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 635 kB, installed size 1884 kB12:55
Samuli^bmcfarli, umask=000 ?12:55
Samuli^bmcfarli, is it a fat32 partition or what?12:55
lupine_85hmm... presumably, you'll need to specify the appropriate linux-headers directory to build against, then12:55
btetewazzup! bro12:55
iceman24kI do like the DELL optiplex CPU fan for a 3 ghz P4 HT. what a fan.12:55
fooI am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display: Any ideas?12:55
bmcfarlino, ntfs12:55
jbudoes anyone know how to edit a file through gedit as root while in ubuntu?  it says i dont have the required permissions12:56
mrbrdolupine_85: how do i do that?12:56
Jack_Sparrowgksudo gedit12:56
mrbrdolupine_85: i have the headers package downloaded12:56
eyequeuejbu, gksudo gedit foo12:56
iceman24kjbu sudo gedit the file12:56
jbuthanks12:56
Samuli^bmcfarli, then you should not have permission to write because linux really can't do that ntfs being a closed source file system and all that.12:56
Jack_Sparrowjbu: make a backup of any file first12:56
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jbuok12:56
eyequeueiceman24k, prepend gk if a gui app12:56
linuchsanmrbrdo:what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?12:56
iceman24kjbu absolutle make a backup12:56
bmcfarlii do not want to write12:56
bmcfarlii want to read12:56
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow>yeah the noise aint as bad now excellent stuff man :D ...although I gota wait for ariapc to send me a new fan, no shops sellin fans in my local area12:56
Kill_Xbmcfarli, that means you cannot access /media/hda2 from the gnome menu?12:56
Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: No.... gksudo for gui apps in gnome... kdesu for giu apps in kde12:56
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mrbrdolinuchsan: u mean if i compile it myself?12:57
bmcfarlicorrect12:57
starscallingSamuli^, actually there are a couple ways to make linux r/w to ntfs12:57
Samuli^bmcfarli, ok, umask=000 should do just that.12:57
Kill_Xbmcfarli, places?12:57
starscallingits just not the smartest thing ever12:57
pianoboy3333!src12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
starscalling:P12:57
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pianoboy3333!sources12:57
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:57
mrbrdolinuchsan: it's something about wrong parameters or broken.. something in such way12:57
bteteHi there Audrey! How are you? hope you're fine and doing well back there!12:57
iceman24kJack_Sparrow heck sudo has always worked for me12:57
Samuli^starscalling, I know, but they're not preferable.12:57
starscallingagreed.12:57
linuchsanmrbrdo:it is already a kernel module12:57
mrbrdolupine_85: so how do i build against my headers?12:57
bmcfarliit isnt listed under places12:57
starscallingto share windows with linux i personally use fat3212:57
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: remember... that is a short term fix....12:57
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mrbrdolinuchsan: yes but i need to patch it.12:57
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lupine_85not sure how to do it with that source - their makefile is beyond me. But why not try this? http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt12:58
Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: that can mess up permissions and really mess up your system12:58
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linuchsanmrbrdo:why?12:58
xenthralHi, how do I go about setting up a custom resolution for my desktop?12:58
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Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: gksudo is safer12:58
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mrbrdobecause then i need to rebuild the whole kernel12:58
Samuli^bmcfarli, you might want to add read-only to your fstab options too, if you don't have that already.12:58
eyequeueiceman24k, it might fo the command, but it can hose the overall system12:58
mrbrdoand then i need to have problems with fglrx12:58
mrbrdoetc etc12:58
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jbu(gedit:8170): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:12:58
iceman24kJack_Sparrow whats the other command, i'll note it for my own learning, may be where i screw thing up . :)12:58
jbuAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.12:59
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Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: working with root access always has dangers.. mostly from the user themself12:59
jbui got this error using gksudo12:59
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> yeah thats why Im annoyed that i have to wait for ariapc to mail me a fan, and there prices are a joke12:59
jbugedit12:59
iceman24kgedit12:59
Kill_Xbmcfarli, open your filemanager and navigate to /media/hda212:59
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linuchsanmrbrdo:so, what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?12:59
iceman24kgksudo ?12:59
eyequeuejbu, are you doing this from your first-created user?12:59
Kill_Xbmcfarli, are you able to open that directory?12:59
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bmcfarlii did it has a big X on it12:59
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mrbrdolinuchsan: no error, i just need to patch it for injection12:59
jbueyequeue: yes12:59
mumblesargh this should of been easy12:59
mumbles:(12:59
doug_anyone know why I'm getting "collect2: cannot find 'ld'" when compiling c program?12:59
eyequeueiceman24k, gksudo is safe, sudo is unsafe it not a cli all12:59
mumblesi only want xdmcp support12:59
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Kill_Xso what the hell...01:00
eyequeueiceman24k, gksudo is safe, sudo is unsafe iF not a cli aPP01:00
Jack_Sparrowjbu: gksudo gedit   did not bring up gedit window...01:00
matttailhey there, I've got a question... in the ubuntu wiki for updating Firefox it says "There are two ways you can update firefox to the newest version.01:00
matttailThe first way is to close Firefox and give your user (yourself) file ownership: sudo chown -R ${USER}:${USER} /opt/firefox Start Firefox normally and update (Help -> Check for updates...) Once the update is completed, close Firefox and then restore ownership to root: sudo chown -R root:root /opt/firefox Do NOT browse other sites while firefox has these elevated permissions, that is without changing back the ownership of /op01:00
matttailt/firefox over to root. Such a practice is not safe. "    Why is it not safe?01:00
Jack_Sparrowjbu: You will see an error in the terminal window...01:00
Kill_Xbmcfarli, at your /etc/fstab01:00
iceman24knoted, and may well be where i toast my installs01:00
bmcfarliyes?01:00
Samuli^bmcfarli, actually use umask=222 that gives everyone read and execute right's but not writing.01:00
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mumblesJack_Sparrow any luck with xdmcp in the past ?01:00
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cafuegomatttail: You don't want sites porribly writing to the firefox install directory.01:00
jbujack_sparrow: yep...do u know what i'm doing wrong? i'm new to this01:00
Kill_Xbmcfarli, at the /dev/hda2 line... what umask= did I tell you?01:00
eyequeuematttail, running things as root is bad bad bad01:00
Kill_X002 or 007?01:00
bmcfarli00701:01
Jack_Sparrowjbu: what are you trying to edit/change?01:01
matttailok, thanks!01:01
jbuJack_Sparrow: xorg.conf, to edit my video driver info01:01
Kill_Xbmcfarli, sorry... should read 002 - or 00001:01
mrbrdowell anyway, does anyone know of a way to rebuild only a kernel module and not the whole kernel? please01:01
lupine_85mrbrodo: did you look at http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt ?01:01
jbuin /etc/x1101:01
iceman24kjbu cant do a reconfig01:01
kitchematttail: if an app has a vuln then if you get that vuln running as root then the attracker can do anything pretty much to your system01:01
Jack_Sparrowjbu: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf                 but first use        sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup01:01
mrbrdolupine_85: yes, it involves rebuilding the kernel01:01
bmcfarliremount? or is it fine?01:02
mrbrdolupine_85: besides i think it does not work for .17, not sure tho01:02
Samuli^Kill_X, make that 222 because it's a ntfs partition. You don't want anyone to write on that (if it's even possible)01:02
finalbetaLols, anyone uses xchat gnome? How do I get the users listed on the right?01:02
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finalbetaPressing the users button is a joke01:02
Kill_Xbmcfarli, simply save your new fstab, then 'umount /media/hda2' then 'mount -a'01:02
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eyequeuematttail, and something as bloated as firefox is never rootsafe01:02
iceman24kcan you manualy edit xorg.conf to enable resolutions above 1024x768 ?01:02
lupine_85no you don't :). Read it again01:02
doug_anyone know why gcc is unable to find 'ld' when I'm compiling my c program, using gcc 4.0.3 in ubuntu?01:02
jbuJack_Sparrow: that's what i did the first time, but it didnt work, for some reason it worked this time.  Thanks01:03
lupine_85and it should work with 2.6.1701:03
xenthralI'm wondering that myself01:03
Kill_XSamuli^, write support is disabled by the kerneldriver as default01:03
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xenthralhow can I get a resolution like 1152x(something) ?01:03
lupine_85(those particular options are included in the .17 kernel)01:03
Jack_Sparrowjbu:   np probably a typo01:03
eyequeuefinalbeta, can you drah that riht line to make room for the userslist?01:03
Kill_XSamuli^, 002 will suffice.01:03
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mrbrdolupine_85: my card is not softmac, but fullmac01:03
iceman24kxenthral have you done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?01:03
eyequeuedoug_, do you have build-essential?01:03
finalbetaeyequeue: no, i'm using xchat-gnome01:03
lupine_85hrm01:03
bmcfarliholy shit kill thanks01:03
xenthralnope01:03
Kill_XSamuli^, just in case he wants to switch to ntfs-3g some time O:-)01:03
Samuli^Kill_X, curious why you wanted to keep the last 2 :)01:03
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jbuwhen you guys write the name of the user you're talking to on irc do you type it in or is there a shortcut to paste the user's name01:04
xenthralsorry I'm a linux newb01:04
xenthralwhat does that do?01:04
lupine_85well, building the krnel from source - or writing your own makefile - might be the only choice01:04
eyequeue!language > bmcfarli01:04
bmcfarlimaybe i want to write to it01:04
Jack_Sparrowjbu: tab to complete01:04
lupine_85"make oldconfig" takes all the decision making out of kernel compilation01:04
kitchejbu: well you can press tab for an auto complete but I usually just paste the nick01:04
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, that for you may want to install ntfs-3g01:04
mrbrdolupine_85: where should i find the snapshot of the bcm43xx module?01:04
jbuoh cool01:04
jbukitche: o cool01:04
mrbrdolupine_85: if i get that i guess i could do what that guide says01:04
bmcfarliyeah i wont, but thats why we left it01:04
Jack_Sparrowbmcfarli: You have been warned about writing to ntfs... no crying when you lose everything01:04
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, but you should reconsider your permissions (the umask= thingie) then...01:05
bmcfarliok01:05
jbukitche: you can't just like highlight someones name in the list of users and then press a button and have that persons name appear?01:05
doug_eyequeue, yes I have build-essential installed01:05
bmcfarli00001:05
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Kill_XNO01:05
iceman24kxenthral do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that will allow you to manulay configure "x" but make a backup or xorg.cong first.01:05
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eyequeuedoug_, no idea then01:05
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Jack_SparrowOhhhhhhhhhh01:05
kitchejbu: nope but if you type in part of their name then hit tab it will auto-complete it01:05
xenthralok, thanks man01:05
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Kill_Xbmcfarli, 000 would mean everybody had complete access to the partition ;)01:05
Jack_Sparrowxenthral: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup01:05
jbusweet01:05
Samuli^bmcfarli, use 222 just to be on the safe side.01:06
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eyequeuejbu, see how this line is hilighted?01:06
iceman24kxenthral i'm no where near the expert. but can help with what i know, take the burden off the brains.01:06
eyequeueand this line is not?01:06
jbueyequeue: yes01:06
eyequeueand this line is not?01:06
mcphailsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg makes a backup automatically01:06
jbueyequeue: yes01:06
mrbrdolupine_85: any idea?01:06
Kill_Xbmcfarli, consider the umask option to be inverted to normal chmod options...01:06
mumblesfound it01:06
eyequeueoops01:06
lostincDoes anyone here have an A+ Cert01:06
mumblesone sec will past the link01:06
bmcfarlioh01:06
eyequeuejbu, anyway with 800+ in here, it's handy01:06
Kill_Xbmcfarli, 222 is like 55501:06
xenthralturns out I'm gonna have to try that out later, but thanks for the help regardless :)01:07
Kill_Xbmcfarli, 000 is like 77701:07
bmcfarlihaha ok01:07
bmcfarliwell i just want to read01:07
Samuli^you don't give rights, you take them away with umask.01:07
starscallingdo te do te dummm01:07
bmcfarliso 666?01:07
FlaXUbuntu destroyed my gfx ^^01:07
iceman24kWhy when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try to get higher resolutions, X and gnome still only allows me 1024x768 and why cant i get a 1200X enabled ?01:07
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mrbrdolupine_85: see, that's why it will not work in .17, because .15 did not yet include that module (i think)?01:07
FlaXrebooted and then it died01:07
FlaXThat's cute01:07
mooneyactually the umask is the difference from 666 for files and 777 for directories01:07
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Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: Still running vesa or mesa driver01:08
Kill_Xbmcfarli, 222 should be okay...01:08
jbuhey all, i tried to mount my ntfs partition using "sudo nano /etc/fstab" but it doesn't show my /dev/hdc1 like it does in fstab...does anyone know what is going on?01:08
starscallingiceman24k, mm01:08
Kill_Xso01:08
bmcfarlibut cant i still write with 222?01:08
iceman24kJack_Sparrow nvidia driver in.01:08
starscallingwhen you do this reconfigure01:08
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starscallingyou need to check higher resolutions01:08
starscallingdid you do that01:08
starscallingafter its reconfigged01:08
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starscallingyou need to restart X01:08
Samuli^bmcfarli, no, 2 is writing rights, 1 is executable and 4 is reading.01:08
eyequeuejbu, did you misspeak?  sudo mount /foo is more the command01:08
Kill_Xbmcfarli, yes.01:08
linuchsanmrbrdo:so, what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?01:08
starscallingctrl+alt+bkspace01:08
Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: sorry thought 1200x was ati.. doh!01:09
eyequeuejbu, whatever mountpoint is in fstab, not foo, of course01:09
iceman24khave restarted x, just the reconfigure fails to embed the added resolutions01:09
Samuli^bmcfarli, so if you just want to read and not execute scripts or programs, use 33301:09
Kill_Xbmcfarli, but since the standard ntfs driver does NOT support writing in standard mode anyway...01:09
bmcfarliit goes r-w-x01:09
jenny_bcan someone please help me?  i recently got the new kernel, and now my 3d acceleration doesn't work (ati)...i've followed the howto's to reinstall the drivers, but still, when i do 'fglrxinfo', i still get mesa!  please help!01:09
bmcfarli1-2-4 No?01:09
mumbleseyequeue Jack_Sparrow - http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Enabling-xdmcp-in-tsclient-for-ubuntu is what i used01:09
jbueyequeue: hmm im just telling u what the tutorial told me to do01:09
Jack_Sparrowmrbrdo: Please make a note of this link....  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper01:09
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Kill_Xjeez01:09
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Blissexjenny_b: try asking in #ATI with specific error messages you get in '/var/log/xorg.0.log'.01:10
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starscallingiceman24k,01:10
starscallingexit X01:10
iceman24kI can go 1152 x 768 but wand higher01:10
Kill_XI got to get to bed01:10
Da_FBihello!01:10
Samuli^bmcfarli, no. 1 execute, 2 write and 4 read, okay? :)01:10
starscallingthen do your reconfigure01:10
starscallinghow high can your monitors go01:10
lupine_85bah, I give up. no  source anywhere but the kernel :(01:10
Blissexjenny_b: but note that very recent X servers may be too new for released ATI drivers.01:10
joeandkrystalcan someone point me to a detailed guide on installing ati official drivers and explination of the commands to configure it ?  the opensource driver causes my system 2 crash01:10
mumbleshow do i add that to the bot ?01:10
Samuli^man chmod, if you don't believe me.01:10
starscallingand do you have the correct driver in for your video card?01:10
jbueyequeue: it wants me to edit the fstab01:10
lupine_85just build your own with make oldconfig and be done with it01:10
Kill_XSamuli^, Jack_Sparrow, can you take over? :/01:10
jenny_bBlissex, i've never had a problem before....and that file doesn't exist on my computer01:10
eyequeuejbu, sudo mount /foo mounts things, sudo nano /etc/fstab edits that file, not mounting anything01:10
lupine_85that, or write your own makefile for the source01:10
Jack_Sparrowiceman24k: Post your xorg to the pastebin for people to review..   gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:10
iceman24kstarscalling have reconfigured, 15 inch LCD.01:10
Kill_Xgn801:11
eyequeuejbu, go ahead and edit it, but don't expect that edit command to mount anything :)  you need a "sudo mount /something" for that01:11
iceman24k!pastebin01:11
starscallingprobably max is 1280x960 then01:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:11
CromagDKATI stuff: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.2901:11
jbueyequeue: i've seen a couple of tutorials telling me to edit the file before mounting my partition01:11
starscallingselect the 960 instead of the 1280x102401:11
starscallingDistribution: testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.15-26-k7 X.Org: 7.0.0 Gnome: 2.14.3 Qt: 3.3.6 XChat: 2.4.5 Perl: 5.8.7 VGA: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1) @ 2560x960/24 bpp/50 Herz01:11
starscallingSoundcard: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04) CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP (2163.051 MHz) CPU-Cache: 512 KB RAM: 997/1010 MB Networkstats(eth0): Down: 3.7 GiB Up: 1.9 GiB Diskcapacity: 376 GB01:11
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Blissexjenny_b: the non existance of the X server log is practically impossible. Ah, I mispelt it: /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:11
starscallingsee? i have to run dual 1280x960 b/c its just wierd like that01:11
eyequeuejbu, yes, but i'm tryinf to stress that an edit is not a mount command01:11
Jack_Sparrowjbu: what is the format of the partition you want to mount01:11
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fatbrainHow do I manuall install .deb files?01:12
fatbrain!deb01:12
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)01:12
fatbrainheh01:12
jenny_bBlissex, ok, i've got that open now...it's quite long, is there something in particular i should be looking for?01:12
jbueyequeue: oh ok01:12
fatbrainsilly me01:12
iceman24khttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23929 thats my xorg.cong01:12
jbuJack_Sparrow: ntfs01:12
Jack_Sparrowdpkg -1 file.deb01:12
eyequeuefatbrain, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb01:12
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eyequeueJack_Sparrow, s/1/i/ :)01:12
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Samuli^people are surprisingly unaware of gdebi.01:13
bmcfarlithank you guys01:13
Blissexjenny_b: usually it tells you what's gone wrong towards the end. Error lines are prefixed with "(EE)"01:13
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Jack_Sparrowjbu: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  is one of many ways01:13
eyequeueSamuli^, i see no reason for it, with dpkg :)01:13
Da_FBiI need help: Trying to use make command01:13
bmcfarliand your correct sam, sorry01:13
shadoxhii guys01:13
Samuli^eyequeue, I know, but for new users.01:13
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shadoxi have a serious probleme and i can't find a possible solution :(01:13
Samuli^bmcfarli, no problem :)01:13
jpjacobsDa_FBi, install build-essential first01:13
jenny_bBlissex, this is the only one i got it looks like...(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom01:14
jenny_bNo such file or directory.01:14
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Blissexjenny_b: then everything is working all right :-).01:14
Jack_Sparroweyequeue: you are correct01:14
jbuJack_Sparrow: i'm sorry i'm new to linux...this is a script right?01:14
shadoxi can't log off my computer nomore neither cant' i reboot :s01:14
Jack_Sparrowyes01:14
Da_FBijpjacobs: I'm a n00b01:14
jbuJack_Sparrow: i'im not sure what to do with this01:14
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Jack_Sparrowjbu: click on file and save to your desktop01:14
jenny_bBlissex, but when i do 'fglrxinfo', it's still saying 'mesa'...and when i run glxgears, its not even moving....and everything worked _fine_ until i updated my kernel with adept01:14
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Jack_Sparrowjbu: after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop01:15
Blissexjenny_b: if it says 'mesa' then obviously the 'fglrx' driver and libraries are not properly installed.01:15
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jpjacobsDa_FBi, goto synaptic, enter your passwd, hit ctrl-f, key in build-essential, select the package it comes up with, hit aply, done!01:15
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Blissexjenny_b: odds are that you have to recompile the 'fglrx' kernel driver.01:15
shadoxcane someone help me pls :(01:15
marcagioAnyone knows if the 3D issues with the ATI Express 200M has been resolved yet?01:16
Jack_Sparrowshadox: Did you set a root password?01:16
jenny_bBlissex, i've done it twice now :(  i wonder what i'm doing wrong.  i'm not getting an error message or anything.01:16
shadoxJack_Sparrow: yes i did01:16
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linuchsanshadox:sudo shutdown -r now01:16
Jack_Sparrowshadox: Bad idea...01:16
GekitsuuDoes anyone have any experience with edgy on an ibook g4?01:16
Jack_Sparrowshadox: Running as root user can really mess up your system/01:17
ivxwhat is the linux equivlant of msdos tracert01:17
Jack_Sparrow!edgy01:17
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule01:17
shadoxJack_Sparrow:  when i go to system => log off, the 2 options are disappeared :s01:17
Blissexjenny_b: no idea from here. Are you using the Ubuntu kernel and 'fglrx' drivers or the installer from ATI? If you are using the latter odds are it is not working.01:17
jbuJack_Sparrow: how to i execute it?01:17
levelhallo i am totaly new to linux and i wold like to install skype in ubuntu01:17
levelbut how can i install a tar.gz01:17
Gekitsuuthanks01:17
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Jack_Sparrowjbu did you cd like I said..?01:17
jbuJack_Sparrow: yes01:17
shadoxJack_Sparrow:  had no problems till yet :s01:17
Blissexlevel: unpacket is somewhere under '/usr/local'01:17
ivxlevel there should be insturctions01:17
Da_FBiThanks for your help!01:17
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Blissexlevel: anyhow you can use the Skype '.deb' with ubuntu.01:17
Jack_Sparrowshadox: wait your turn and someone will see if it is fixable.01:18
tailoti have problem install an webcam?01:18
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Jack_Sparrow!skype01:18
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ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto01:18
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marcagioJack_Sparrow glad to see you again, I don't know if you remember me, I had problems with my 3D on my ATI video card... turned out that I found a forum where ppl were all experiencing the same problem with the 200M... :( I think no one is working on it either01:18
tailot!webcam01:18
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:18
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Jack_Sparrowjbu Open a terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter01:18
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sessgot compiz xgl working01:19
sessseems that some of my opengl apps still run accelerated inside it :)01:19
levelthanks i'l try01:19
Jack_Sparrowmarcagio: Sorry to say .. low end ati are not a priority01:19
sessand damn does gnome look beautiful now01:19
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bmcfarlijack what kind of card do you have?01:19
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Jack_Sparrownvidia 6600 pci-e01:19
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Jack_SparrowMid range01:19
eyequeuesess, #ubuntu-xgl01:19
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tailotcould not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection. <---- why?01:20
Taorluathhey does anyone here use gmailfs?01:20
sesseyequeue: Im already in there, I was just making a comment01:20
jbuJack_Sparrow: thanks a million01:20
marcagiolow end ATI? I mean... it's kind of the hugest intagrated you get in a laptop... plus it uses 128Mbs sideport instead of shared memory... don't make me so sad I just wasted 1600$ on a laptop :(01:20
Jack_Sparrowjbu where are you at with that?01:20
jbuJack_Sparrow: done01:20
Jack_Sparrowcool01:20
eyequeuesess, cool, just eanted to be sure you knew :)01:20
Jack_Sparrowjbu: are they on your desktop now?01:21
eyequeue!gmailfs01:21
ubotugmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 136 kB01:21
Taorluathja01:21
jbuJack_Sparrow: the shortcut isnt there but i can access it01:21
Taorluathit says something like, the host is wrong01:21
Jack_Sparrowjbu: restart x   ctrl-alt-backspace to see them on desktop01:21
NET||abusehey, anyone know a good app to do up entity relationship diagrams?01:22
starscallinghey01:22
jbuJack_Sparrow: do that in the terminal?01:22
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starscallingdoes anyone know if you can use all extended partitions for ubuntu??01:22
Jack_Sparrowclose terminal...01:22
starscallingswap / and /home ??01:22
starscalling[running out of partitions on current device] 01:22
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eyequeueTaorluath, i keep meaning to create an account there to send my encrypted backups to :)  (duplicity)01:23
eyequeue!info duplicity01:23
ubotuduplicity: encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-8ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 420 kB01:23
Jack_Sparrowjbu: ctrl-alt and backspace at the same time will kick you out of here and restart x..  you will have to log in and all that..  they will be there next time you boot01:23
SuperMigueldoes any one know how to install desklets01:23
SuperMigueleasy?01:23
Jack_Sparrowjbu: YOu do not need to do it now01:23
Taorluathso can u like use gmailfs to run app files and stuff?01:23
eyequeue!info gdesklets01:23
ubotugdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB01:24
Samuli^SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install gdesklets01:24
bimberiNET||abuse: dia can do it, but the best i've used is called DBDesigner (Open Source but not in Ubuntu afaik)01:24
jbuJack_Sparrow: thanks01:24
Jack_SparrowSuperMiguel: gdesklets01:24
eyequeueSuperMiguel, you need universe first01:24
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Jack_Sparrow!gdesklets01:24
ubotugDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/01:24
eyequeueSuperMiguel, you need !info in front for the packge info01:24
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eyequeue!info gdesklets01:24
ubotugdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB01:24
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SuperMiguelso what do i do?01:25
vdepizzolwill ubuntu come with easy-xgl-instalation? :P01:25
vdepizzol*ubuntu edgy01:25
Jack_SparrowSuperMiguel: system/admin/synaptic.....01:25
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eyequeueSuperMiguel, do you have universe repo installed yet?01:25
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Taorluathbye01:25
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SuperMiguelrepo?01:25
jbuJack_Sparrow: it didnt show up as a shortcut on my desktop, and i cant right click the folder and add a shortcut of it...do u know what to do?01:25
eyequeueSuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install gdesklets, if so01:25
Jack_Sparroweyequeue: take it.. I need to take 501:26
eyequeue!repo > SuperMiguel01:26
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Samuli^SuperMiguel, first see if you have universe repository enabled.. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  <-- mark that command and paste it in terminal window.01:26
bmcfarlihey guys how do you compile a .run file?01:26
eyequeueJack_Sparrow, np my friend :)01:26
Jack_Sparrowthanks01:26
Rawplayerarrr01:26
Emptyeyequeue, HAHAHA I just went to reinstall and guess what, it did it to the livecd too... Coincident HW failure it is then. Not great but at least no mystery01:26
kitchebmcfarli: you don't those are binary01:26
eyequeueSuperMiguel, the bot told you how to enable that repo if you need to, but you may have done so last week :)01:26
bmcfarliok...so what do i do?01:27
eyequeueEmpty, bad news, but i always prefer something that's diagnosed over a mystery :/01:27
SuperMiguelok01:27
SuperMiguelsource open01:27
SuperMiguelwhat do i look for?01:27
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eyequeueSuperMiguel, the word "universe" on a line, that does not begin with "#"01:28
marcagioinsomniak... on s'connais?01:28
eyequeueSuperMiguel, if it does begin with #, tell me01:28
jbuhey all, i'm new to linux, can someone tell me how to put a shortcut/link to my mounted windows partition on my desktop? the 'make link' option isnt there...do i need to be root or something?  and how do i do that using the file browser?01:28
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SuperMiguelthe source list that i have is from automatix?01:28
SuperMiguelis that fine?01:28
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knowledgEngiciao01:28
knowledgEngic' nessuno01:28
knowledgEngi?01:28
Samuli^it probably is, supermiguel.01:29
lupine_85SuperMiguel: hopefully ;)01:29
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lupine_85!it01:29
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:29
Samuli^supermiguel, try "sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data"01:29
SuperMiguelok done01:29
SuperMiguelinstalled01:29
SuperMiguelbut :A01:29
Samuli^well, now you have it.01:29
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SuperMiguelwhen i try to open it01:30
Jack_Sparrowjbu:  Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and check volumes_visable01:30
SuperMiguelit doesnt :S01:30
eyequeueSuperMiguel, for future reference, you do have universe enabled, since that worked01:30
stephen!winetools01:30
stephen!wine01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:30
jbuJack_Sparrow: thanks01:30
Jack_Sparrownp01:30
Emptyeyequeue, Think it's still in warranty :D01:30
stephencould somebody show me how to install winetools on ubuntu, i cant find the proper repository01:30
eyequeueEmpty, hehe01:30
stephennickserv01:30
Samuli^SuperMiguel, try typing gdesklets from terminal so we can see the error message.01:30
Jack_SparrowPeople, play nice, see you all later01:30
eyequeue!info wine01:30
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB01:30
stephen!info wine01:30
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB01:30
eyequeue!info winetools01:30
ubotuPackage winetools does not exist in any distro I know01:30
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stephen!info winetools01:30
ubotuPackage winetools does not exist in any distro I know01:30
eyequeuestephen, ^^^   wine01:31
mcphailwinetools is deprecated01:31
stephenok01:31
SuperMiguelConnecting to daemon [ ###         ] You need a recent version of PyGTK to run this program.01:31
SuperMiguelConnecting to daemon [      ###    ] 01:31
stephenis there a version of wine that has a GUI, i remember one on Knoppix a while back01:31
jbuJack_Sparrow: actually it has already been checked01:31
Samuli^SuperMiguel, well, that's odd it didn't pull the pygtk with it if it needed it.01:32
SuperMiguelConnecting to daemon [ ###         ] You need a recent version of PyGTK to run this program.01:32
SuperMiguelConnecting to daemon [      ###    ] 01:32
SuperMiguelError while starting gdesklets-deamon01:32
Samuli^SuperMiguel, is your computer up-to-date?01:32
stepheneyequeue: is there a version of wine that has  a GUI?01:32
marcagioKill Bill! Kill Bill!!! Hurray!!!! :D01:32
eyequeuestephen, no idea, i have never touched wine01:32
Samuli^SuperMiguel, all updates installed?01:32
Jack_Sparrowwineconfig01:32
ganja_does anyone here uses dc++ ?01:32
marcagioI got drunk last week on wine01:32
SuperMiguelyep01:32
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stephenanybody else here know if theres a wine with a GUI01:34
SuperMiguelwhat can i fo?01:34
Samuli^supermiguel, well okay.. try sudo apt-get install python-gtk2 python2.4-gtk2 python-gtk-1.201:34
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mumblesthis is ammusing01:34
renatohey01:34
lupine_85winecfg01:34
renatoi need help01:34
renatosomething happened to nicotine, and now i can't get it to open01:35
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ganja_SuperMiguel, dc++ ?01:35
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jbuis wireless internet access difficult in linux?01:35
SuperMigueli did it but it doesnt connect to deamon01:35
briguydjbu, depends on your chipset01:35
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eyequeuejbu, it "just worked" for me, automatically, but some don't have that experience01:36
georgyjbu : depends on your card01:36
jbuok01:36
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SuperMiguelit says time out01:36
briguydjbu, which card do you have?01:36
eyequeuejbu, mine was a laptop, ipw220001:36
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jbulike i have a usb adapter from compusa...i guess that's not a good thing eh?01:36
renatoi was using nicotine, and for some reason i couldn't write in the rooms, so i decided to reinstall it using sudo apt-get remove nicotine and then apt-get install nicotine01:36
jbuusb wireless adapter*01:36
Samuli^SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install python-orbit? do you have that?01:36
jbucompusa brand01:36
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mumblesi can see what my bro is doing on his comptuer01:36
briguydyou might get lucky01:36
eyequeuejbu, i was able to module-assistant one of those, a cheap one even :)01:37
renatoand now it isn't opening01:37
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briguydndiswrapper might work, jbu01:37
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jbuok01:37
b14ck73425hey everybody01:37
SuperMiguelyep01:37
eyequeuejbu, ~$40usd01:37
SuperMigueli do01:37
briguydhey b14ck7342501:37
Jack_Sparrowjbu: ndiswrapper should do it...01:37
jbueyequeue: mine was 10 bucks...so i'm worried that there wont be adapters for it?01:37
renatoi get this message when i try to open nicotine from a terminal01:37
b14ck73425anyone know anything about how to connect to a network computer01:37
Samuli^SuperMiguel, I don't know what you need then.01:37
eyequeuejbu, find out the chipset, then google01:37
jbueyequeue: i'll see..01:37
briguydjbu, with ndiswrapper, you just need the windows driver01:37
renatoTraceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)01:37
Jack_Sparrowjbu: No I am not really here... I am a figment of your imagination01:37
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SuperMiguelthank you any ways01:38
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renatocan anyone help me on this?01:38
lupine_85jbu: do you have any idea what the chipset is?01:38
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jbuon what01:38
jbulupine_85: on what01:39
SiCuTDeUxHi!01:39
jbulupine_85: of what, rather01:39
Samuli^supermiguel, the gdesklets are a pain anyways :)01:39
lupine_85on the usb wlan device01:39
Languidanyone know why, even though gnome-keybinding-properties understands my multimedia keys, only the volume up/down/mute buttons work, play/pause/next/stop/previous dont work in anything (amarok, totem, etc)01:39
jbulupine_85: no i dont01:39
briguydjbu, type lsusb into the terminal01:39
SiCuTDeUxhow can i set a hot key in my gnome01:39
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briguydand find whatever looks likely to be a wireless card01:39
Samuli^SiCuTDeUx, system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts..01:39
lupine_85model number? Brand name? anything?01:40
SiCuTDeUxi want to use the wifi buttom to every time i push it reload the bcm43xx module01:40
renatoanyone? please, can someone help me?01:40
jbubriguyd: zyDas 802.11b/g usb2 wifi01:40
SiCuTDeUxSamuli^: not like that01:40
lupine_85zydas should work out of the box01:40
SiCuTDeUxSamuli^: i want to use my wifi buttom01:40
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mumblesJack_Sparrow is there any way i can send a message to a ubuntu machene ? and have it pop up on the screen ?01:41
briguydjbu, http://linux-lc100020.sourceforge.net/01:41
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Samuli^SiCuTDeUx, ok, I don't know anything about that.01:41
lupine_85lsmod |grep zd and see if it shows a loaded module... if not, "sudo modprobe zd1211"01:41
jbubriguyd: thanks01:41
renatoplease, anyone, give me something01:41
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cafuegoSiCuTDeUx: I don't think the bcm43xx driver is stable enough yet to do that, even if you did find out the acpi event that enables/disbales it.01:41
renatoat least a "no, i can't help u"01:41
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briguydjbu, in summary, looks pretty good for you01:41
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SiCuTDeUxcafuego: spanish?01:41
cafuegoSiCuTDeUx: nederlands01:42
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briguydjbu, in particualr, pay attention to the red part01:42
b14ck73425ERRSRV - ERRmsgoff what the hell is this01:42
lupine_85for(n=0;n<865;n++) {printf("no, I can't help you");};01:42
Samuli^renato, for one, It's not very cool to use kde-apps in gnome :)01:42
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SiCuTDeUxcafuego: dmesg show something wen i use iit01:42
jbubriguyd: "Now it is part of the main kernel tree as of 2.6.12. "?01:43
sgruberis there a way to write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition01:43
funkjaWhat is a good music player that has an audio library function built in besides Rythmnbox?01:43
Jack_SparrowSamuli^: Some are ok K3B  Konversation..... others simply will not work01:43
lupine_85 jbu: module zd121101:43
FluxDxmms funkja01:43
kitchefunkja: amarok banshee01:43
cafuegob14ck73425: /usr/include/linux/smbno.h:#define ERRSRV 0x02 /* Error is generated by the server network file manager.*/01:43
lupine_85is it loaded?01:43
stephenwhere is my wine config file located01:43
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renatoborghihey01:43
b14ck73425so what does that mean01:43
renatoborghican anyone help me?01:43
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georgystephen : /home/user/;wine01:43
b14ck73425and how do i fix it01:43
renatoborghii'm having a problem opening nicotine01:43
b14ck73425please :)01:43
cafuegob14ck73425: It means an erorr happened on the network file server.01:43
b14ck73425right...01:44
georgystephen /.wine*01:44
Jack_Sparrowstephen: try in #winehq01:44
lupine_85hmm, in 2.6.17 it's turned into zd1211rw -- wonder what the difference is01:44
briguydjbu, yeah, that line01:44
cafuegob14ck73425: ... for all the good that does ;-)01:44
Jack_Sparrow!nicotine01:44
b14ck73425ERRmsgoff what does this mean01:44
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ubotunicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB01:44
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sgruberis there a way to write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition01:44
renatoborghifor some reason, i coulnd't say anything in the rooms01:44
b14ck73425i think it means messaging is off so how would i turn it on?01:44
renatoborghiso i decided to remove and reinstall it using apt-get01:44
b14ck73425please :)01:44
renatoborghibut now i can't open it01:45
jbubriguyd: so what does that mean? it comes with the OS?01:45
briguydsupposedly, yes01:45
renatoborghiwhen i try to run nicotine from a console, i get this message01:45
briguydjbu, you on ubuntu?01:45
sgruberhow do I write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition01:45
jbubriguyd: yes01:45
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briguydjbu, open up the network manager and see if its listed01:45
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Samuli^sgruber, what do you mean? You want to install ubuntu or.. ?01:45
Languidanyone know why, even though gnome-keybinding-properties understands my multimedia keys, only the volume up/down/mute buttons work, play/pause/next/stop/previous dont work in anything (amarok, totem, etc)?  anyone?01:46
renatoborghirenato@ubuntu:~/ Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)01:46
Jack_Sparrowsgruber: WHat is the purpose... It is easy to copy the data to a partition... trying to run it or install from it is another01:46
stephenanybody here have success with installing steam on wine01:46
Jack_Sparrowstephen: try in #winehq01:46
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renatoborghianyone knows what this means?01:46
lupine_85renatoborghi: it's dodgy source code01:46
renatoborghiand what do i have to do to make it work?01:46
jribrenatoborghi: how did you install nicotine?01:46
stephenJack_Sparrow: nobodys there :)01:46
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lupine_85learn the programming language, and hen fix it?01:46
renatoborghiusing sudo apt-get install nicotine01:47
lupine_85s/hen/then01:47
lupine_85report a bug, then01:47
lupine_85!bugs01:47
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com01:47
billybennettwas there another kernel update today?01:47
jbubriguyd: when i go to network tools/devices under wireless interface (wlan0) it doesnt show naything01:47
renatoborghibut i think the problem is that before i removed it, i was using nicotine+01:47
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briguydwhat do you mean "under wireless interface (wlan0)"01:47
briguydis wlan0 there?01:47
lupine_85if wlan0 is there, the driver is loaded...01:47
renatoborghinow, i installed nicotine 1.0.801:47
jbui went to network device:01:47
jrib!info nicotine01:48
renatoborghiyeah, another kernel update today01:48
ubotunicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB01:48
jbubriguyd: i went to network device dragdown window and went to wireless interface(wlan0)01:48
jbubriguyd: nothin01:48
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briguydjbu, if wlan0 is listed in the main area, select it and hit properties and configure it01:48
eyequeuethat's a scary name for a peer-to-peer system :(01:48
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Jack_Sparrowagreed01:49
renatoborghican anyone help me?01:49
eyequeuebillybennett, yes, security01:49
briguydeyequeue, it'll get you addicted to filesharing and slowly kill you with lawsuits01:49
billybennetteyequeue, thanks01:49
Samuli^well there's also kaffeine and codeine.01:49
eyequeuei hope everyone has a short uptime!01:49
mumbleshow do i a do a wakeup on lan ?01:49
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Samuli^hopefully no heroine, though :)01:49
jribrenatoborghi: maybe you can post the file to pastebin and someone can take a look01:49
eyequeuemumbles, isn't that a bios feature?01:49
renatoborghihow do i do that, jrib?01:49
georgy!pastebin01:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:50
jribrenatoborghi: open up /usr/bin/nicotine in a text editor, and then make a post on the pastebin site01:50
renatoborghiok01:50
jribif someone has a working nicotine on dapper, it would be easy to see what is going on01:50
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Samuli^or not.01:51
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georgyjrib : work great for me01:51
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briguydjbu, anything?01:52
mumbleseyequeue yeh but i saw someone wakeing up a computer across the room by doing some niftey program01:52
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jbubriguyd: its not, what would the first step be to detect it?01:52
eyequeuemumbles, ping? :)01:52
renatoborghiok, can anyone take a look there?01:52
renatoborghiit's under the name Renato Nicotine problem01:53
eyequeuemumbles, i would imagine tht's all it takes, if bios-enabled01:53
jribgeorgy: maybe you can help renatoborghi ?  or pastebin your version of /usr/bin/nicotine?01:53
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Samuli^renatoborghi, paste the url.01:53
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briguydjbu, what is listed in that main area?01:53
renatoborghihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2393301:53
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jbubriguyd: just the two ethernet devices i have01:53
jbubriguyd: actually i dont even know if two are listed, but two protocols are listed01:54
briguydeth0 and eth1, or what?01:54
jbubriguyd: eth001:54
eugmanHey, is there a visual file vierwe so I can get a non abstract idea of what is using up my space?01:54
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jbubriguyd: i think i got it working01:54
briguydhow?01:54
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jribrenatoborghi: try renaming your ~/.nicotine directory01:54
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jbubriguyd: the "configure" button for wireless lit up01:55
FireLighterHey - is this where I can get help?01:55
renatoborghiwhat name should it have?01:55
briguydjbu, so it works now?01:55
jribrenatoborghi: ~/.nicotine.backup01:55
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FireLighterI am having major installation troubles01:55
briguydFireLighter, yeah, help is here01:55
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jbubriguyd: dunno i'm still on my wired internet01:55
briguydah01:55
oisacxhi guys01:55
FireLighterGreat! I posted my problem on a forum, here is the link (to save space/typing!): http://forums.crosswalk.com/m_1658906/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#165890601:56
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renatoborghiok, i did that, jrib01:56
renatoborghiwhat now?01:56
jribrenatoborghi: now try running nicotine again01:56
jbubriguyd: no ip information is coming up though01:56
oisacxis there anyone here who have installed azureus 2.5.0.0?01:56
renatoborghii got the same error, jrib01:56
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jribD:01:56
eugmanHow can I sort text file by the first column?01:56
georgyrenatoborghi : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2393401:56
jbubriguyd: is there anyway to test it?01:56
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lupine_85jbu: are you comfy in console?01:57
briguydjbu, disconnect and disable eth0 or whatever and configure and enable your wireless connetion01:57
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renatoborghishould i replace my file with this u posted, georgy?01:58
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briguydjbu, you should be able to do it all from the gnome network manager01:58
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georgyrenatoborghi : watch if is a diffrence01:58
lupine_85disabling eth0 and enabling wlan0, yes. Testing whether wlan0 is properly connected while keeping eth0 up, no ;)01:58
jbubriguyd: ok then brb01:58
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briguydFireLighter, i have no idea01:58
starpausei built mocp from source and now it crashes trying to do some iface_set_mixer_value01:58
billybennettAnyone here using gnome-network-manager for Wireless / WPA1+2 ?01:58
briguydcan someone look at FireLighter 's problem and help him?01:59
amarokkerHi, i am unable to install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu. should i ask at #kubuntu?01:59
renatoborghiis there a way to compare both?01:59
FireLighterWhat should I try? I just have a blank screen, when I take the disc out I am faced with windows XP as if nothing has happened01:59
amarokkerI dunno. some problem with glade, and other gnome libs01:59
jribrenatoborghi: it's the same file01:59
amarokkerwait, show you the error list01:59
mumblesanother question - is there anyway to send a user a message via lan ?01:59
eyequeueamarokker, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    you ran that command?01:59
jribrenatoborghi: you can use a program called "diff" to compare them by the way01:59
eugmanCan anyone tel me I can sort a text file based on the first column ?01:59
amarokkeryeah. eyequeue01:59
briguydamarokker, you cant "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"?01:59
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amarokkeroh?01:59
amarokkerdo'h.01:59
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lupine_85 FireLighter: is this the Live CD/DVD?02:00
amarokkerok, so how am i supposed to get gnome-apps?02:00
eyequeueamarokker, yeeah, #kubuntu may have some idea, as that command should work afaik02:00
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jribrenatoborghi: have you tried removing it and installing it again?02:00
amarokkerinstall again from an ubuntu-cd? :S02:00
green__saotomewhen my system is booting up, i get an error message that complains about "LVM volume groups" being wrong. This stalls the boot process for about a 1-2 minutes. Any suggestions?02:00
oisacxis there anyone here who have installed azureus 2.5.0.0?02:00
jribgeorgy: thanks02:00
lupine_85amarokker: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should work fine, assuming you have internet repos02:00
codecainehow can you set your network config permminant without using gui02:00
FireLighterlupine_85: yes i got it from shipit.ubuntu.com02:00
renatoborghiyeah, jrib02:00
georgyjrib: np02:01
amarokkeryeah...i do- i trid with --fix-missing too. none worked yet.02:01
renatoborghishould i try erasing my .nicotine folder and reinstalling it?02:01
lupine_85FireLighter: looks like it's having problems with your graphics card. Have you tried the "safe graphics" option?02:01
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eyequeuerenatoborghi, mv .nicotine .nico-old02:01
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FireLighterNo, should i try that...I think its in the option list when you first boot.02:01
stuart_Hi, ive configured my Nvidia to run an Svideo out to  the TV but its displaying and empty desktop with empty workstations and i cant drag anything to it02:01
gnomefreakrenatoborghi: deleting the ~/.nicotine file just restart the app it should generate a new one02:01
eyequeuerenatoborghi, then you can get it back if desired02:01
renatoborghiok02:02
renatoborghithx02:02
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lupine_85FireLighter: yes, it's in there somewhere. If that doesn't work, you might have to grab an alternative installation CD and do it from there instead :(02:02
FireLighterOkay! THanks a lot, I'll try it!!02:02
lupine_85IME the desktop installer is less robust02:02
stuart_does anyone know how to help me with the svideo02:03
renatoborghibut both /usr/bin/nicotine files look the same02:03
renatoborghiso that's probably not the problem02:03
lhdsguys with linux and firefox i lost to toolbar in my hotmail account the one that changes colors and fonts. how to get it back?02:03
lmosherAnyone know if the nvidia quatro (in a laptop) has 3d working in linux? I'd wager the go 6xxxx or 7xxxx's would work fine, but I was wondering about the quatro b/c I saw a good deal on a latitude D82002:03
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rukuarticHey there, I think i've installed a few packages that have broken my system, but I can't remember which ones I've downloaded. How would I go and purge all packges not from the Ubuntu Supported Repositories?02:04
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lupine_85rukuartic: this isn't Gentoo ;). TBH I think you've got problems02:04
lupine_85how did you install them?02:05
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rukuarticlupine_85: Apt-get... I think some of it is xgl/compiz stuff.02:05
Flannelrukuartic: restore your sources.list to official stuff, then in synaptic, they'll be listed under the 'local or obsolete' section (assuming you used debs to install them)02:05
renatoborghiok, nothing worked02:05
renatoborghii have no idea why this nicotine isn't working02:05
rukuarticFlannel: Thanks! :: checks::02:05
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renatoborghiit's strange. cause the error i'm getting is File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)02:06
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JoaoJoaohello02:07
renatoborghibut this line 146 is exactly the same as in the /usr/bin/nicotine file georgy posted02:07
jribrenatoborghi: follow the rabbit, go see how frame.MainApp is defined02:07
renatoborghiand how do i do that, jrib?02:08
starpauserenatoborghi, why are you using old nicotine? try mucous and museek+02:08
rukuarticFlannel: Let me try out my problem, it might sound familiar. As long as I play a video from VLC, it plays fine. But as soon as I try to use something like mplayer or totem, everything goes psychadelic colors. Framerate and audio are fine though...02:08
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lupine_85mmmmm backtraces, lol02:08
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jribrenatoborghi: you'd have to go read the file with the pynicotine.gtkgui module02:08
lupine_85rukuartic: he's modified init so that it takes two, instead of three, arguments (IIUI)02:08
rukuarticlupine_85: Hrrm?02:09
marcagiohow can I add Sound to wine?02:09
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Samuli^hehe, now you have to start learning how to code in order to use ubuntu? :)02:09
lupine_85erm, sorry. that was @renatoborghi!02:09
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lupine_85it should be an entry requirement ;)02:09
renatoborghiand how do i do that, lupine_85 and jrib?02:10
renatoborghiwhere is this pynicotine.gtkgui module?02:10
Samuli^linux for human beings, well.. they do code, not all of them.. but some. hmm.02:10
Samuli^:D02:10
jribrenatoborghi: try 'locate pynicotine.gtkgui'02:10
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=== lupine_85 wonders if that will fix the problem, or just move it somewhere else
renatoborghinothing happened02:10
renatoborghii got no result02:11
Samuli^that's because locate isn't up-to-date02:11
riddickanyone have a good link for xgl howto?  i have tried a couple via google and they seemed to fail.  i am running LTS Ubuntu with an nvidia card.02:11
lupine_85find / -name <blah> ?02:11
georgy!xgl02:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:11
lupine_85will take ages, though02:11
marcagiois there a way to get my sound working on Wine anyone?02:11
Samuli^yeah, find -name foo.02:11
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renatoborghihahaha02:11
riddickThank you02:12
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Samuli^I think find defaults to root if no directory is specified.02:12
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renatoborghii got lots of "permission denied", lupine_8502:12
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jribrenatoborghi: find02:12
mr_huswhat's the easiest way to connect to a wireless network using WPA-PSK?02:12
lupine_85yes, you will02:12
renatoborghii'll run sudo this time02:12
lupine_85*sigh*02:12
rpalkovicHello everyone!02:12
jribrenatoborghi: find /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -name whatever_that)thing_was02:12
lupine_85mr_hus: depends on the wireless card ;)02:12
rpalkovicWanted to share the following, then ask a question...02:13
rukuarticmr_hus: Can you connect to non secured networks to begin with?02:13
lupine_85the standard method is wpa_supplicant but not all cards support it02:13
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renatoborghino response, jrib02:13
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eugmanAnyone know how to setup clamassassin?02:13
jribrenatoborghi: find /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -name '*pynicotine.gtkgui*'02:14
mr_husrukuartic: i dont think i tried02:14
rpalkovicI've been a loyal windows user for - well, too damn long.  I finally made the switch to Linux via Ubuntu, and the only place windows exists anymore is in a virtual machine, and only to use ms money.  Let me tell you - I've been loving it!02:14
lhdsanyone knows if opera can access hotmail account and read emails?02:14
mr_husrukuartic: i thought seeing networks was already a proof that it was working heh02:14
rukuarticmr_hus: Most definately something to try first :)02:14
renatoborghino response again, jrib02:14
lupine_85mr_hus: not quite02:14
rukuarticrpalkovic: :D Welcome to the society.02:14
kitchelhds: umm yeah it's just a browser unless you mean to use pop302:14
jribrenatoborghi: hmm do 'sudo updatedb' and try locate again I guess02:14
lupine_85some drivers are broken in some respects02:14
rpalkovicthanks rukuartic02:15
lupine_85what driver are you using?02:15
Samuli^renatoborghi, do sudo locate -u & locate whatyouweretryingto.find02:15
mr_husi have no idea, i have a fresh ubuntu install02:15
rpalkovicI know JUST enough to get myself into trouble, so I figured I'd ask for help here since I havn't found any conclusive answer via googling...02:15
mr_husmy wireless card is based on an Atheros chip02:15
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renatoborghii tried that and it didn't work again, jrib02:15
lupine_85mr_hus: it'll work with wpasupplicant fine, then02:16
kitcherpalkovic: have you tried the ubuntu tutorial02:16
lupine_85!wpasupplicant02:16
ubotuwpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB02:16
rpalkovicI wasn't really planning on making the switch when I partitioned my hard drive, so now I've got 15 gigs of unallocated space on /dev/hda02:16
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rpalkovica needs to be deleted partition on /dev/hda502:16
jribrenatoborghi: I don't know then02:16
renatoborghii got this answer now, Samuli^02:16
renatoborghi[1]  700902:16
rpalkovicand my ubuntu boot partition on /dev/hda602:16
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rpalkovicand a swap partition02:17
rpalkovicat /dev/hda702:17
Samuli^renatoborghi, ask the coder guys what do with that info :)02:17
renatoborghiok, thx02:17
renatoborghijrib, i got this info now02:17
rpalkovici need to move /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1, delete the other non swap partitions, and extend the /dev/hda1 partition to the full size of the disk.02:17
renatoborghi[1]  700902:17
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rpalkovici'm trying to use GParted to do all this - but because /dev/hda6 is mounted, i can't delete /dev/hda502:18
rpalkovicand even if I could - i have NO idea how to switch the boot partition from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1 once the move occurs.02:18
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lupine_85rpalkovic: best to do it from a Live CD02:18
rpalkovici tried that too - the live CD had no access to the partitions02:19
rpalkovici couldn't even unmount /dev/hda502:19
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lupine_85...it wouldn't be mounted in the first place...02:19
lupine_85changing your boot partition is easy enough - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and replace all the hda6 with hda102:19
rpalkovicthat's what I thought - but it was02:19
lupine_85make a backup first, though :)02:19
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rpalkovicahhh, that's awesome02:20
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rpalkovicas for my drives being mounted - i didn't think they should be either...  is there a special way I should have booted from the live cd?02:20
jribrenatoborghi: oops, my fault you should have just searched for pynicotine and then gone to gtkgui/frame.py02:20
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renatoborghiahhhhhhhh02:21
renatoborghiok02:21
detectiveinspektis there a gnome pannel prog that allows me to see different time zones?02:21
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detectiveinspektadding another clock uses the same computer clock02:21
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renatoborghiok02:21
renatoborghi/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py02:21
renatoborghihere it is02:21
renatoborghiwhat do i do with it?02:21
jribrenatoborghi: md5sum /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py02:22
renatoborghi2ec81a0d565332db085a9a3ceea3ccf1  /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py02:22
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jribrenatoborghi: interesting, you got a different md5sum than the one I got from the downloaded deb on packages.ubuntu.com... can you pastebin that file?02:23
renatoborghifile  /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py?02:23
renatoborghiwait a sec02:23
jribrenatoborghi: yep02:23
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rpalkovickitche: I didn't look at the tutorial, but i know enough *nix commands to get around, and then google and ubuntuforums helped with anything I couldn't figure out on my own.02:25
aszuromIs it just me, or does the default implementation of VNC server in ubuntu's remote desktop bite?02:25
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kitche!xgl02:25
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:25
mumblesim off to bed02:25
raxorhi all, how do i set an environment var?02:25
aszuromhere on my lan, I can't get much of a decent update rate on the screen02:25
renatoborghiit's there, jrib02:25
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raxorthat can be accessed from a perl script: eg. $ENV{SOURCE_ROOT}02:26
jribrenatoborghi: url?02:26
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aszuromI'd like to trade it in for TightVNC which works marvelously, but Tightvnc says there's already a VNC service running on display 0... which would be the default VNC but I can't fathom how do disable it02:26
rpalkoviclupine_85: is there a specific way I should boot from the live CD in order to not mount existing partitions?02:26
renatoborghihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2393702:26
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lupine_85rpalkovic: is it swap?02:27
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lupine_85(the partition that's getting mounted)02:27
rpalkovicall of them mount02:27
rpalkovicon hda and hdc02:27
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Jack_SparrowNight all....02:27
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georgyJack_Sparrow : night02:28
lupine_85gah, that's got to be annoying. It really shouldn't do that02:28
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rpalkovicnight JS02:28
renatoborghic ya Jack_Sparrow02:28
lupine_85can you sudo umount them?02:28
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kitcherpalkovic: think the command is before it boots maybe ubuntu nomount02:28
jribrenatoborghi: yeah, you've got the wrong file in there for some reason.  There are a lot of differences, so we are going to try to get at the root of the problem instead of patching this error...  Do this 'sudo apt-get --purge remove nicotine'02:28
rpalkovicThought about sudo umount, but gparted is running as sudo so I didn't try it02:29
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riddleboxwhy would ndiswrapper use eth1 most of the time for my wireless but once in a while it uses wlan0?02:29
renatoborghiok02:29
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renatoborghiwhat does this --purge means?02:29
rpalkovickitche: how would I manage that?02:29
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aszuromis it Vino I have to dump to get VNC server off display 0?02:29
finalbetarenatoborghi, remove config files02:30
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riddleboxusually purge means to delete02:30
renatoborghiok02:30
renatoborghithx02:30
rpalkovicinstead of booting to nautilus, boot to to a cmd and then run it?02:30
CromagDKi've been readin a bit, i am looking for an answer regarding change of size of my boot partition. Gparted, is there a risc it will corrupt data somehow when changing size ?02:30
renatoborghiand now what do i do, jrib?02:30
renatoborghireinstall it?02:30
jribrenatoborghi: now, type this: ls /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py02:30
kitcherpalkovic: well it's should be at the beginning of the cd before you get into ubuntu02:30
finalbetaCromagDK, resising is always a risk02:30
finalbetabe sure to make proper backups02:30
sureshotok once again what is that program name that used 2 monitors as one desktop and ware can i get get02:30
rpalkovicalright - i'll see what I can find.  thanks for the help, I'll let you know how it goes :)02:30
CromagDKfinalbeta: ok :( sadly02:30
rpalkovicadios for now, wish me luck!02:31
jrib!xinerama02:31
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo02:31
georgysureshot : xinerama02:31
renatoborghirenato@ubuntu:~$ ls /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py02:31
jribrenatoborghi: dpkg -S /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py02:31
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aszuromsheesh...02:32
lufisCan I use a laptop drive on a desktop?02:32
renatoborghinot found, jrib02:32
lupine_85lufis: not usually02:32
aszuromI got :0 freed up, but it doesn't actually display my desktop... it fires up its own X session02:32
lupine_85depends on the connector, though02:33
lufislupine_85: :( why?02:33
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lupine_85many laptops have non-standard cabling to the drive02:33
lufislupine_85: aw, sux02:33
lupine_85it's all IDE/SATA in the end, but good luck getting it plugged in02:33
Lxnashwhere can i find info on how to configure my wireless card?02:33
lupine_85still, worth a try... you might get lucky02:33
lupine_85!wifi02:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:33
georgy!wireless02:33
jribrenatoborghi: ok then and please be very careful not to make a type, sudo rm -r /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine02:33
bimberiaszurom: you've disabled the Remote Desktop?02:33
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lufislupine_85: i think the hardest part is actually getting the laptop open... it's got tiny torq screws and i don't have a torq screwdriver02:34
renatoborghiok, it's done02:34
aszurombimberi, yes02:34
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lupine_85hammer +  chisel works :)02:34
aszuromthe remote desktop that is installed by default (vino) doesn't do well at all for me02:34
lufislupine_85: ha, i might resort to that if push comes to shove :-p02:34
aszuromon a 100mbit lan, it doesn't refresh the screen correctly and I can't figure out why02:35
jribrenatoborghi: ok, apt-cache policy nicotine, on pastebin please02:35
calibanplz help me to my cdrom, i do anythings, but nothing :( plzzzz02:35
aszuromif I move a window, only parts of it will update02:35
aszurombut Tightvnc works great02:35
kitcheaszurom: might be that program02:35
bimberiaszurom: but it was running?  i think the process remains if it was once running.  do a <alt>F2 and run a 'killall vino-server' command02:35
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renatoborghiit's a small response, can't i paste it here jrib?02:36
jribrenatoborghi: if it is less than 3 lines02:36
aszuromit's pretty dead02:36
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renatoborghiit is02:36
aszurombut it still doesn't show my actual running gnome desktop02:36
jribrenatoborghi: ok, you've wasted 2 already though :P02:36
aszuromit fires up a new X session to show me02:36
bimberiaszurom: yes :|02:37
renatoborghinicotine:  Instalado: (nenhum)  Candidatos: 1.0.8rc1-1.1  Tabela de Verso: 1.0.8rc1-1.1 0   500 http://br.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages02:37
aszuromcan I not get it to show me the current in-use desktop?02:37
jribrenatoborghi: ok go ahead and do 'sudo apt-get install nicotine'02:37
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renatoborghigreat02:37
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bimberiaszurom: there possibly is, but i don't personally know.  vino-server has usually worked ok for that when i've needed it02:38
renatoborghiYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!02:38
renatoborghiman, thx a lot02:38
jribrenatoborghi: np02:38
picassook im back! im trying to get my networks to show up under network-manager-gnome. just upgraded from 5.10 to 6.0602:38
georgyjrib : good job !02:38
picassohas anyone had a problem with network-manager-gnome applet not showing network interfaces?02:38
renatoborghii wouldn't be able to do this alone02:38
picassoim not seeing any of them02:38
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aszuromyeah, vino it's so slow as to be worthless, and I can't understand why02:38
codecaineim trying to get xgl to work when I try to do compiz I get this error02:39
codecainegnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images02:39
codecainecompiz.real: No composite extension02:39
aszuromit's not like the two boxes aren't right next to each other02:39
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codecaineany ideals?02:40
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Samuli^nope, none.02:41
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renatoborghiok, ppl, thx for the help02:41
renatoborghic ya all later02:41
Samuli^codecaine, seriously though, #ubuntu-xgl02:41
fooI am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display:  ..  Any ideas?02:41
sess!loki02:41
ubotuloki: [Biology]  MCMC linkage analysis on general pedigrees. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7.4-1 (dapper), package size 332 kB, installed size 824 kB02:41
sess!loki installer02:42
burns2hi! i install the nvidia driver by automatix but 1024 option to screeen resolution is not activate! i need fiz it!02:42
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sessWhy is it that the loki installer doesn't install shortcuts into my gnome menu?  additionally, I just installed crossover office, and its menu doesn't show up in my gnome session either02:42
sess!crossover office02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crossover office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
J-_what do i need to download to view java applets in mozilla web browser?02:43
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calibanplz help me to my cdrom, i do anythings, but nothing :( plzzzz02:44
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jrib!java > J-_02:44
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jrib!fixres > burns202:45
burns2yep?02:45
jribburns2: ubotu should have sent you some info in a private message02:45
burns2ok02:45
burns2i'll try02:45
aszuromJust FYI - I cured my issue by installing x11vnc02:45
aszuromit does exactly what realVNC does in windows02:46
aszuromserves up the running X display02:46
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dxyis there a gcc package in the first cd of ubuntu?02:47
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TheReconHunterHey, i got a bit of a noobish question02:47
TheReconHunteranyone wanna help out?02:47
npodges!ask02:47
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:47
bretzelHi there!:-) How can I get the graphical VGA font set into the console (frame buffer/or normal text mode ) I am unable to display things like box ??02:47
jribdxy: I *think* all of the cd's had build-essential (which pulls in gcc) on them02:48
TheReconHunterAight. In AmaroK, I somehow got rid of the file menu by accidentally clicking in one of the tabs. Can anyone find out how to fix it?02:48
Samuli^jrib, They don't.02:48
bretzelI mean there is NO such charset to draw the box, or other characters into the console02:48
Samuli^jrib, remember, this is a distro for human beings :)02:49
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dxyjrib: is it a builtin command  to grab the source and install?02:49
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TheReconHuntercan someone help me? There should be a shortcut in amarok in the first or second tab to minimize the files02:49
lupine_85dxy: to do that, you do apt-get source --compile <package>02:49
TheReconHunter*file menu02:49
jribSamuli^: well I know hoary, breezy, dapper, and edgy do.  Did warty not have it?  I know it isn't installed by default, but it's available on the cd02:49
FlannelTheReconHunter: you might try asking in #kubuntu02:49
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Samuli^jrib, I don't think dapper does, did breezy?02:50
TheReconHuntergr...02:51
bretzelsh&^t! the "dialog" command line does something to the terminal to be able to display those graph charset ...02:51
TheReconHunterits something pretty easy to fix, i just cant find the command02:51
FlannelSamuli^: Dapper does02:51
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Samuli^There isn't even a line to point out to CD in dapper sources.list, at least not in the 'default' live/install cd.02:51
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FlannelSamuli^: that's because the liveCD can't be used as a repository, only the alternate02:52
gnomefreakhoary adn newer have build-essential on the cd (not installed by default)02:52
fooWhat's a really lightweight manager like gdm ?02:52
gnomefreakas in you can use the cdrom repo to install it02:52
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eyequeue.join #ubuntu-meeting02:52
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gnomefreakmanager for what?02:52
kitchefoo: xdm if you mean display manager02:53
picassoAnybody know why network-manager (installed w/ apt-get after upgrading 5.10 -> 6.06) would not show any network interfaces? im trying to get WPA wifi working02:53
Samuli^flannel, so it's pretty much that dapper doesn't have build-essential on the cd (assuming the default most users use)02:53
fookitche: ah, yeah, that, thanks02:53
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PseudoPlaceboHow do I install OpenSSL on Ubuntu.02:54
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chuckypPseudoPlacebo, with synaptic02:54
FlannelSamuli^: right.  the DEsktop CD doesn't have anything on it except what is installed by default, as it isn't a repository.02:54
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georgy!openssl02:54
PseudoPlaceboWithout a stupid pussy way.02:54
ubotuopenssl: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 952 kB, installed size 2268 kB02:54
chuckypTheReconHunter, whats your problem?02:54
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kitchePseudoPlacebo: sudo apt-get install openssl02:54
chuckypPseudoPlacebo, what do you mean with out a stupid easy way?02:55
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TheReconHunterWith amaroK, i made all hte file menus disappear, and i just need someone to help me find a way to get em back02:55
chuckypPseudoPlacebo, then download the source and build it if you don't want to use synaptic02:55
PseudoPlacebochuckyp:  I want to use apt.02:55
FlannelTheReconHunter: #kubuntu would be a better place to ask, probably02:55
SembianceHi Ubuntu peopls!02:55
Sembianceerr peoples rofl02:55
chuckypTheReconHunter, perhaps you should ask in #kubuntu02:55
PseudoPlaceboNamely because I'm working straight from a command line via SSH.02:55
FlannelPseudoPlacebo: so, use apt.  It's the same thing, synaptic is merey a frontend. apt-cache search to find it, then apt-get install02:55
chuckypPseudoPlacebo, then sudo apt-get install openssl02:55
Deaigoi have made a .de02:55
Deaigob02:55
TheReconHunterim trying, but not much luck02:56
Deaigowhere can i put it so others dont have to go throught this pain in the ass install process?02:56
chuckypPseudoPlacebo, you can find packages with apt-get  by apt-cache search packagename02:56
TheReconHuntertheyre saying "oh just b/c we use Kubuntu doesnt mean we use amaroK"02:56
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SembianceI'm a developer, and I've been using Linux for years, but always as a server. I'm ready now to change my workstation to a Linux machine now and will be doing things like writing code, listening to music, watching videos, etc. I've tried Gentoo in the past but I hate how long it takes to compile things and how you have to work so hard to get your hardware to work.02:56
chuckypTheReconHunter, there may also be an amarok channel02:56
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SembianceSo I'm looking at ubuntu to ease the 'make my hardware work' pain02:57
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chuckypSembiance, try using the live cd see if it fits your needs02:57
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SembianceHowever I'm worried that ubuntu might be too easy? By that I mean, will I be able to download the latest source code for things like PHP and what not and isntall them?02:57
krazykitSembiance: you must've done something wrong if you had problems getting your hardware working in gentoo.  it's simply a matter of know what you have.  ubuntu makes it easy by having all the modules compiled and ready for you02:57
chuckypDeaigo, so other on your system can install it?02:57
SembianceHow do source installed packages conflict with ubuntu?02:57
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krazykitSembiance: they don't.  you can make deb packages yourself02:58
chuckypSembiance, yes you can always install from source02:58
b14ck73425hey again02:58
Deaigochuckyp i mean so someone can type apt-get install btg02:58
Sembiancekrazykit: I never had 'problems' per se, as lspci -v always works well and then just compile a kernel. but it's always a big pain and takes time02:58
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chuckypDeaigo, hrm... well I have no idea on how to get a package added to the repos02:58
krazykitSembiance: meh, only the first time :-p02:58
DeaigoSembiance ubuntu is fine.... it is easy yes. but unlike fedora and other projects ubuntu allows you to have real fun with the system ;)02:58
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SembianceHrm...02:59
FlannelDeaigo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU02:59
chuckypSembiance, like I say you can always try the live cd and see if you don't like it just try another live cd.02:59
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Sembiancekrazykit, chuckyp, Deaigo: Thank you very much for your help and answering my questions :)02:59
kitcheSembiance: you just have to install the developer tools since they don't get installed by default02:59
SembianceI was afraid I'd ask my question and nobody would respond ;)02:59
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chuckypSembiance, however to be able to install from source you would need gcc etc...  I would recomend installing the build-essential package02:59
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krazykitSembiance: ubuntu's build environment is easy enough to set up.  i compile things now and again and have never had problems03:00
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chuckypDeaigo, if you check out that motu link they may have information there about requesting that a package be added03:01
SembianceWell maybe I should rethink what I want my workstation to be. Installing PHP server on it probably isn't the best use of the machine since I already have some machines in my apartment that act as 'servers' doing that sort of thing. Right now I just map to them as a samba drive and then just develop things that way. However when writing C code, debugginng via GDB becomes tiresome so I'd like to switch to linux and embrace it03:01
georgy!e1703:01
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.03:01
Deaigochuckyp reading now03:01
SembianceSo yah, I'll need the developer tools for sure, as gcc I'll need, etc. But maybe not some other things03:01
DeaigoSembiance i run ubuntu... at my amtes place03:01
Deaigoit has gnome running and what not03:02
calibanplz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660  ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , ele esta dando erro de block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ03:02
Deaigobut i shh in to do everything i need03:02
Deaigossh*03:02
chuckypSembiance, well you can install them one by one etc.. build-essential is a meta package that installs some common compilers03:02
SembianceIf I install say the very latest version of something like libxml (because maybe the latest isn't available in ubuntu as a package) will that conflict with ubuntu packages?03:02
calibanplz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660  ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , erro = block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ03:02
chuckypSembiance, no you can completely control holding packages back etc... for the updates03:02
Sembiancekrazykit: That's good to know03:02
DeaigoSembiance could uninstall using apt-get first if its a worry03:02
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kitcheSembiance: nope unless a package brings in libxml but you can always make a deb for your package so you can install it anytime03:03
SembianceDeaigo: When I've done stuff like that in the past with redhat or gentoo the dependencies are usually a real pain03:03
DeaigoSembiance tell me about it03:03
SembianceHow up to date is the package system for Ubuntu? How does it compare with things like Gentoo?03:03
Samuli^doesn't redhat use rpm's?03:03
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Deaigoits alright...03:03
Deaigoimo gentoo leads in package management03:04
chuckypSembiance, well there are extra repositories are always an option.03:04
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DeaigoSembiance well it only had libtorrent 8.2 :/03:04
chuckypSembiance, like I say your best bet would be just to boot to the livecd and check it out.03:04
FlannelSembiance: ubuntu freezes versions each release03:04
SembianceI just don't want to get stuck in 8 months and realize that I'm not able to tweak or change something in my ubuntu system because it's not meant to handle that? Ubuntu doesn't lock people out totally from doing certain things does it?03:04
FlannelSembiance: nope03:05
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Sembiancechuckyp: Ok cool, I have ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso downloaded. Is that what I need to burn and try out?03:05
kitcheSembiance: well it locks you into sudo03:05
Samuli^even if it does freeze versions, there's 3rd party repositories and backports though.03:05
chuckypSembiance, absolutely not03:05
DeaigoSembiance gentoo users have switched to ubuntu(and this was before the GUI installer)_03:05
joebu23i ran into a problem i am hoping someone can help me with03:05
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georgy!ask03:05
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:05
chuckypSembiance, yeah just burn it and make sure your computer is set to boot to cd... and you will be able to select live cd from the menu.03:05
Deaigoi used to be a real critic of ubuntu untill i actually used it03:05
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DeaigoSembiance use the alternative install disc03:06
kitcheubuntu runs slow on my system at least the net does03:06
joebu23i just upgraded my kernel today to 2.6.15-27 and now my pcmcia network card is not recognized by the system03:06
chuckypDeaigo, I don't believe he can run the live cd from the alternate iso03:06
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Deaigoi was just saying use it03:06
georgychuckyp : that's right03:06
SembianceAnd will ubuntu just automatically find my NVIDIA GeForce 6600, enable hardware acceleration, work with my USB mouse and keyboard (including scroll wheel on mouse), my Audigy 2 sound card? etc?03:07
kitcheoh yeah sethk are you around I fixed my problem that I was having03:07
calibanplz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660  ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , erro = block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ03:07
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chuckypSembiance, well the nvidia part is a little tricky since their drivers aren't open source03:07
FlannelSembiance: automatically? no.  within a few commands? yes.03:07
kitcheSembiance: you will have to install the nvidia drivers to have hardware acceleration03:07
Samuli^Sembiance, all but enable acceleration for opengl I think.03:07
b0ysc0utim trying to do a chmod on a folder..but it keeps tellin me access denied..anybody?03:07
chuckypSembiance, but the nvidia drivers are easy to install or you can install the nvidia-glx package to add the free ones03:07
FlannelSembiance: there's a hardware compat section on the wiki, if you want to double check03:07
devnullhello .. i am trying to get my wireless working correctly .... i can get onto WEP secured networks with a passphrase but I can not get onto networks that do not has a passphrase03:07
DeaigoSembiance hmmm not sure but it should... but there are toutorials in the forums on how to do nvidia drivers03:07
Flannelb0ysc0ut: which folder you looking to chmod?03:07
chuckypb0ysc0ut, which folder?03:07
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devnullin Elive i just pick the network and it connects .... in ubuntu i can't connect to any un-passphrased wireless networks03:08
georgyb0ysc0ut : sudo chmod ?03:08
b0ysc0utits on the filysystem03:08
Flannelb0ysc0ut: which folder?03:08
b0ysc0utsudo..mm..dint think bout that03:08
DeaigoSembiance you could always just settle for debian ;)03:08
SembianceFlannel: cool   (/me heads to google to look for the wiki address)03:08
chuckypSembiance, or you can download the binary from the nvidia sight.  but the wiki addresses all of this03:08
chuckyp!tell Sembiance about wiki03:08
crogue5oh03:08
b0ysc0ut/usr/share/icons/gnome03:09
krazykitDeaigo: debian is hardly settling.  both debian and ubuntu are excellent systems03:09
rorrb0ysc0ut: don't do any sudo chmod without thinking first...03:09
b0ysc0utthats the folder..03:09
FlannelSembiance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:09
SembianceFlannel: thanks :)03:09
georgyb0ysc0ut : then sudo03:09
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SembianceDeaigo, Flannel, kitche, chuckyp: Thank you all for your help, I really appreciate it :)03:09
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chuckypSembiance, np03:09
b0ysc0utim tryin to put a new icon in that folder..but i dont have permision to write on it..so it would be -r?03:09
kitchehmm I should try and speed up my networking on my ubuntu system03:09
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i4get2lol03:09
Flannelb0ysc0ut: just copy it with sudo.  don't chmod it03:10
SanneSembiance: there's also an online packages database, if you want to have a look at versions etc: packages.ubuntu.com03:10
chuckypSembiance, there are always people around here helping out03:10
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georgyb0ysc0ut : sudo cp -r03:10
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rorrb0ysc0ut: sudo cp your_icon /usr/share/icons/gnome/03:10
DeaigoSembiance ah well tell us what OS you end up with03:10
devnulldoes anyone know any particular documentation i need since i have gone though the wiki already and i know my card can connect to any network because i use the same driver in Elive which works fine03:10
b0ysc0utmm lets try that03:10
voraistoshey people. Hope youre not screwing your box too bad ;)03:10
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joebu23anyone know why my pcmcia network card would stop working after an update today to 2.6.15-27?03:10
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SembianceDoes ubuntu install a certain window manager (like gnome or fluxbox or kde?)03:11
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voraistosyes03:11
DeaigoSembiance gnome03:11
voraistosgnome03:11
georgySembiance : yes  gnome03:11
krazykitSembiance: Ubuntu is Gnome, Kubuntu is KDE, and Xubuntu is xfce.03:11
voraistoslol03:11
voraistoscant be more clear03:11
krazykitSembiance: though i'm a fan of xubuntu + e17 >_>03:11
wubrgamerno no no03:12
Samuli^gnome isn't a window manager.03:12
wubrgamerubuntu comes installed with METACITY03:12
wubrgamergeez03:12
devnullhehe03:12
krazykitwubrgamer: yeah, unfortunately03:12
kitchegnome is part of metacity since it's a gnome project :)03:12
calibananyone use ubuntu 5.10?03:12
Samuli^well, enter compiz and all is well :)03:12
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SembianceIn the past I've used Fluxbox on my servers, but I'm going to need things like desktop icons and file explorers, etc. So I'll probably need to go with Gnome or KDE or XFCE.03:12
krazykitcaliban: yes...03:12
Samuli^although anything is better than metacity :)03:12
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SembianceI last used gnome and KDE several years aog, and back then I remember both were really bloated (KDE more so) but Gnome was kind of cludgy, ugly and a bit of the underdog03:13
calibankrazykit, why?03:13
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rpalkovicNo luck.03:13
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voraistoshey i gat some trouble. On none of my Boxes (all running Ubuntu of course :) ) alacarte is working. Dont understand why i cant edit damn menus ?!03:13
krazykitcaliban: oh, present tense?  no.  i've used it.03:13
Samuli^KDE 4 is going to be sweeeeet. (hopefully)03:13
joebu23anyone know why my pcmcia network card would stop working after a kernel  update today to 2.6.15-27?03:13
chuckypSembiance, well gnome has received a lot of speed improvements as of late.  KDE is still nice as well. I'd install both if I didn't want my menus all borked up.03:13
SanneSembiance: you won't even need to decide beforehand, since you could install all three in parallel and switch between them.03:14
Samuli^cafuego, 9wm? can it be that crappy? :)03:14
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chuckypjoebu23, what type of card?03:14
calibankrazykit, dont u use anymore?03:14
joebu23chuckyp d-link, using atheros driver03:14
chuckypjoebu23, oh you know what perhaps you need the linux-restricted-modules for the new kernel you are running.03:14
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chuckypjoebu23, how'd you get the atheros driver?03:14
SembianceSanne: If I just instal Ubuntu, can I still run KDE apps like KDevelop?03:14
chuckypjoebu23, originally?03:14
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krazykitcaliban: of course not.  i updated to dapper a month before release03:15
voraistosjoebu: did you ever try to build your own kernel ? did you have to compile ndiswrapper? that could be the problem03:15
chuckypjoebu23, did it work out of the box or did you have to do something to get it working.03:15
kitcheSembiance: yes you can03:15
rpalkovicthe copy from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1 failed somewhere in the middle with no real explanation given03:15
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SanneSembiance: yes, you can. You would need some kde libs that installing the deb package would pull automatically.03:15
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chuckypSembiance, yes most kde apps run in gnome.03:15
joebu23chuckyp: it worked out of the box as ath0 until today when i did an update on the kernel03:15
decherdtubuntu lets me change window mangers,,with my mouse!03:15
Samuli^Sembiance, you might end up pulling most of kde with the kde-apps though.03:15
wubrgamerreally ?03:15
wubrgamerhow ?03:15
calibankrazykit, :( i've so much problems to 6.06, but with 5.10 not :S03:15
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chuckypjoebu23, I don't have the same card but i'm assuming what happened is whatever module you where using for that card didn't get installed with the new kernel.03:16
krazykitcaliban: strange.  i've not had any problems with dapper.03:16
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chuckypjoebu23, if it uses restricted modules you would have to install them.03:16
SembianceMaybe I should just run KDE then :)03:16
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krazykitthough i think i'll dist-upgrade to edgy once i back up my laptop03:16
joebu23chuckyp: any ideas how to fix?  i have no network connection without that card03:16
calibankrazykit, my probleme is cdrom :( impossible mount that03:16
krazykitjoebu23: use the old kernel.03:16
i4get2well theres a bug for ya...03:16
voraistos6.06 has been released too early i think. i had lots of trouble too. Breezy was very stable03:16
SembianceWhat about the crazy 3D cube thing I've heard about? I forget which company was working on it, Novell maybe? I saw a video of it and it looked pretty... well, 'pretty'03:16
joebu23krazy: how do you rollback to a previous kernel03:17
krazykitSembiance: compiz?  feh.  it gets lame after an hour or so, imo03:17
chuckypjoebu23, yeah the easy fix for right now would be to use the old kerenl just select it from grub's boot menu03:17
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aceracer24Anyone here using InitNG by chance?03:17
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joebu23chuckyp: thanks03:17
kitcheSembiance: that is compiz and you neeed XGL or aiglx to run it03:17
SanneSembiance: I found Gnome to be a bit sluggish on my old i Ghz system so I used Xfce there. I didn't try Kde on this machine. On my new system I use Kde, and like it very much so far.03:17
chuckypjoebu23, untill you figure out what exactly is going on03:17
voraistossembiance, what is your graphic card ?03:17
joebu23krazykit: thanks, will try03:17
Sembiancekrazykit: That's what I figured. Whenever I need to work in windows the first thing I do is turn off all themes and animations03:17
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krazykitjoebu23: when you reboot, hit escape in the grub menu and choose the old one03:17
SanneSembiance: s/i/103:17
chuckypjoebu23, it appears that atheros uses madwifi03:17
krazykitaceracer24: yeah, though i think i'm out of date03:17
Sembiancevoraistos: GeForce 660003:18
voraistostoo bad03:18
Samuli^krazykit, have you actually used compiz?03:18
Sembiancevoraistos: why too bad?03:18
aceracer24krazy: you using gnome with gdm?03:18
krazykitSamuli^: yeah.  i have.03:18
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krazykitaceracer24: no, e17 with gdm03:18
chuckypjoebu23, did you try posting to the forums?03:18
kitcheSembiance: yeah that will run on XGL but not aiglx03:18
aceracer24do you get flahsing when it starts x?03:18
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chuckypjoebu23, or searching them for that matter?03:18
SembianceSanne: I'll be installing on an Athlon XP 2800+ with 1GB of RAM. Will that be okay?03:18
krazykitaceracer24: nope.03:18
Samuli^sembiance, compiz is great and not only about eye-candy. It's actually pretty useful.03:18
voraistossembiance: i am an anti xgl guy, pro Aiglx. based on the same stuff though03:18
joebu23chuckyp: not yet, will try that if I can't get it to work, searches yielded nothing03:19
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chuckypSembiance, your best bet if you like the live cd and you want to install.  After installing just follow along the wiki for most of your needs.  If you can't find it there check back here.03:19
aceracer24krazy: Hmm, I have the latest SVN installed and GDM flashes like it is going to die but recovers. Also sometimes I get moved to tth603:19
kitchevoraistos: well XGL is based on aiglx really03:19
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Samuli^krazykit, so, then you should know you can turn most of the effects of and have a smooth desktop. It's the best thing that have happened to OS'ses in a long time.03:19
aceracer24tthy*03:19
aceracer24tty* lol03:19
voraistossembiance: you need proprietary driver to run compiz, and i dont. thats why you gat the wrong graphic card03:19
tgelterhey everyone. Has anyone gotten the toshiba gigabeat working in linux?03:19
SembianceSamuli^: Doesn't that allow you to see behind windows and stuff with a keystroke?03:19
aceracer24can't type tonight03:19
voraistoskitche: not the contrary ?03:20
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SanneSembiance: Should be. My system now is Athlon X2 3800, 2GB RAM, but I had only 1 GB RAM for some days and didn't notice a difference.03:20
krazykitSamuli^: my other issue is that i don't much like compiz as my WM.03:20
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Samuli^Sembiance, it allows for a quite a lot of stuff. Transparency for one is very useful.03:20
steev_I have your setup, but dual core and with 1 gig, and no problems03:20
krazykitthough i wonder... do the ati-drivers allow composite + hardware accel now?03:20
aceracer24Anyone else using InitNG and GDM?03:20
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JoaoJoaoati drivers03:20
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kitchevoraistos: nope aiglx been in development for 5 years or so where XGL been about 3 or so but they split for different rendering since XGL is more for ATI and Nvidia and aiglx is for intel and the other ones03:21
Samuli^krazykit, why's that?03:21
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krazykitSamuli^: i like the way e17 works better :-P03:21
Samuli^krazykit, I've had e17 and it's great, but really, really buggy.03:21
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Kluster_v2is there a way to install ubuntu like a real distro or am I stuck with the dumb gui ??03:21
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JoaoJoaodoes e17 work?03:21
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krazykitSamuli^: i've not had any major issues in the past, say year.03:21
steev_uber_mort: hey man03:22
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kitcheJoaoJoao: yes it's stable just have a few bugs03:22
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Samuli^krazykit, are you using the whole e17 or just the window-manager?03:22
uber_mortsteev_: Heyo03:22
JoaoJoaodoes it have a file manager and stuff like that?03:22
krazykitSamuli^: the whole e17 IS the window manager.  i don't really use many of the efl based apps though03:22
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tgelterKluster_v2: get the alt install cd03:23
aceracer24where can view the errors xserver is getting?03:23
JoaoJoaopoor Ubuntu, don't burn it :(03:23
Samuli^krazykit, isn't enlightenment the WM and e17 the whole desktop?03:23
chuckypKluster_v2, what do you mean like a real distro i.e. text based install?  Use the alternate iso for that.03:23
Samuli^it's been few months since I last tried it.03:23
b0ysc0utok..can i get to work engage even tho i dont have enlightment?03:23
krazykitb0ysc0ut: no, engage is dead.03:23
kitcheSamuli^: you do know e17 is called enlightenment right just like e16 is03:24
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Kluster_v2yeah since the target computer is a 233mhz, I won't install X.. so I don't want the gui03:24
krazykitSamuli^: nah, e17 is sorta the name for the WM and the supporting libraries03:24
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Sanneaceracer24: /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:24
tgelterI need recommendations for a pvp that is well-compatible with linux...anyone?03:24
b0ysc0utso theres no way i can get the dock?or do i have to get dr17?03:24
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SembianceSo as I begin to use linux more and more I'm going to need to find good replacement apps for apps that I'm used to using under windows (like Winamp for music playing, EAC for perfect audio CD Ripping to flac, etc)  I know about freshmeat and sourceforge are there any other websites or channels where I can ask peoples opinions on good linux apps to fill a certain need without getting on everyones nerves?03:25
krazykitb0ysc0ut: i guess you didn't hear me.  engage is dead, standalone and as an e-module.  there are other docks out there.03:25
wackfusionplayer v. player?03:25
Samuli^krazykit, they quote about enlightenment window manager on their web-page, but who wants argue about semantics anyways.03:25
cpk1Sembiance: xmms is a winampl clone03:25
inglorhey, is there any way to reset everything to default in csm?03:25
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rpalkovickitche: i copied from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1.  As far as I can tell, the directory structure and what not remained intact.  the problem is that when i edited /boot/grub/menu.lst to let me boot there, it wouldn't do so.03:26
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b0ysc0utso can u tell me one? krazykit03:26
Samuli^krazykit, my point being: the window manager might be okay, the whole desktop-thing just isn't ready or stable.03:26
krazykitb0ysc0ut: no.  i don't use docks.03:26
voraistosSembiance: you might want this Kplayer thing03:26
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kitcheSembiance: only by searching really03:26
b0ysc0utok thanks anyway03:26
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SembianceWill Ubuntu support the digital output of my Audigy soundcard and my 4.1 surround sound?03:26
SanneSembiance: you could check ubuntuforums.org and kubuntuforums.net03:26
ingloror in general, reset a program's config to default?03:26
voraistosSembiance: Amarok03:26
inglorhey, is there any way to reset everything to default in csm?03:26
krazykitSamuli^: it's not supposed to be a whole-desktop thing right now.  it's not feature-complete yet :-P03:26
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tgelterwackfusion: no, not player vs player....personal video player03:27
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Samuli^krazykit, well, neither is the window manager announced stable.. neither is compiz though.03:27
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DoppelGangerhe he03:27
Samuli^krazykit, I don't mind the window manager part of enlightenment at all. It's nice.03:27
Kluster_v2so if I burn the iso file on a cd I acn install it ?03:27
krazykitSamuli^: i've been using it as my WM on both my machines for a year now :-)03:27
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lwizardlhi03:28
SembianceSanne, voraistos: thanks :)03:28
lwizardlis there a channel for the ubuntu studio?03:28
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rpalkovickitche: and the live CD wasn't actually mounting the devices, it just looked that way - but I still couldn't delete or change anything with gparted.03:28
inglorhey, is there any way to reset everything to default in csm?03:28
Samuli^krazykit, I don't see how it could compete with compiz if your hardware were supported, but it's okay ;)03:28
inglorhey, is there any way to reset everything to default in compiz in general?03:28
SembianceWhat is everyones favorite movie viewier?03:28
SanneSembiance: hardwaresupport is mostly a kernel issue. For your soundcard you should check the alsa soundcard matrix: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/03:28
DoppelGangeris there a channel for ubuntu losers03:28
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kitcherpalkovic: well I know that your not suppose to mount anything to reparition it03:29
krazykitSamuli^: meh, just personal preference.03:29
Kluster_v2DoppelGanger, why would you say that ?03:29
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DoppelGangerum, because i wanna watch dumbassess try to add 1 + 103:29
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Samuli^inglor, You'd probably need to erase the config-file, perhaps in the /home/.compiz?03:29
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SembianceI downloaded and burned ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso  Is that a mistake if I want KDE?03:29
krazykitDoppelGanger: i suggest going to efnet then.03:29
inglorsamuli, and that would reset it to default or just make it not work?03:30
tritiumDoppelGanger: please stay on topic03:30
Samuli^sembiance, you can have both easily.03:30
cpk1Sembiance: you can still get kde with the regular ubuntu install03:30
DoppelGangertritium: i was on topic03:30
krazykitSembiance: not really a mistake, it'll just install gnome first.03:30
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Kluster_v2this is the topic03:30
cpk1i suppose getting the kubuntu iso might not be as much of a hassle03:30
Samuli^Sembiance, just do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop after you've installed and you have both.03:30
sess!wacom03:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
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Kluster_v2I also noticed something called fluxbuntu.. any good ?03:30
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SanneSembiance: not exactly a mistake as you can install kbuntu-desktop later, but for efficiency you might want to get the kubuntu cd :)03:31
SembianceSamuli^: Is there a visual package manager or all through console? (just curious)03:31
sess!graphire03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
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sessmother...03:31
Samuli^inglor, reset to default I think. Just rename the config-file to something else and rename it back if it doesn't work.03:31
tritiumDoppelGanger: no, you were borderline rude03:31
sesswe need a faqs bot03:31
krazykitSembiance: yeah, synaptic... but imo aptitude is better03:31
tritiumsess: ubotu is a bot03:31
krazykitsess: we do.  it's called ubotu03:31
cpk1Sembiance: there is visual and console03:31
DoppelGangertritium: thanks mom, now can i get a candy or a spanking03:31
Samuli^Sembiance, there's synaptic in gnome and kynaptic (or similar) in kde.03:31
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tritiumsure, DoppelGanger03:31
cpk1Samuli^: adept =)03:32
cpk1Samuli^: for kde03:32
SanneSembiance: console and graphic both. In Kubuntu you have Adept as graphical package manager, but I prefer Synaptic, the one from Gnome, even if I run KDE.03:32
sesspardon me, its just that I remember faqs had information AND urls for EVERYYTHING03:32
Samuli^adept And kynaptic :)03:32
Sanneoh :)03:32
sessubotu is probably still pretty young03:32
sess;)03:32
Samuli^I'm pretty sure there's kynaptic in the repos :)03:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is probably still pretty young - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:32
kitchesess: that's what ubotu does03:32
SanneSamuli^: that may very well be. I stopped looking because I wanted to use Synaptic anyway.03:33
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SembianceThank you all so much for putting up with my questions :)03:33
Samuli^Sanne, I kinda liked adept.03:33
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wackfusionubotu lol03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
Samuli^It had 'only show installed' option synaptic doesn't.03:34
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Samuli^very useful if you're trying to remove something.03:34
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SanneSembiance: good luck :)03:34
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sessubotu anything, don't rely on me to answer your questions, use your own resources, like google.com.  If you're still really incompetent03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything, don't rely on me to answer your questions, use your own resources, like google.com.  If you're still really incompetent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
sesslolx03:35
SanneSamuli^: Synaptic has this... I prefer Synaptic mainly because it keeps an install history. I didn't find such a thing in Adept.03:35
sessI love ubotu now03:35
tgeltercan mencoder convert to wmv (I know...why on earth would I want to?...for the gigabeat...)?03:35
Samuli^Sanne, it does?03:35
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krazykittgelter: don't think so03:35
wackfusionlol03:35
bretzelWhere to ask about console-mode fonts/or charset not able to display the alternate charset ( graphical boxes  ) sorry - to ask again03:35
SanneSamuli^: I will tell you in a sec03:35
Samuli^Sanne, I rarely use synaptic either though, comman line is goood :)03:35
Samuli^but that info would come in handy.03:36
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wackfusionubotu mmorpg03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
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bretzel!console03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
bretzel...03:36
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Samuli^Sanne, ok, so I found it already.03:36
SanneSamuli^: the buttons on the left side at the bottom, one of them is "status". Click that, then you can choose "Installed" in the left column. I use it all the time.03:36
Sanneheh03:36
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tgelter!pvp03:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pvp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:37
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sesswackfusion: try crossfire, worldforge, or wyvern03:37
SanneSamuli^: actually, I prefer command line apt, since I raised myself on it :), but as I said, I just love the install history of Synaptic, so I do all actual installs through it.03:37
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Samuli^Sanne, yes.03:38
nikotinslt03:38
nikotinhello03:38
nikotinvafenculo03:38
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nikotinwe speak english here?03:39
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tritiumnikotin: yes03:39
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nikotinwere u from?03:39
nikotinok...03:40
cpk1the gui installer just shows too much crap03:40
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cpk1command line apt is easy and clean03:40
krazykitnikotin: there are channels for other languages too, if you're not good with english03:40
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nikotini'm ok :=03:40
nikotin:)03:41
chuckypcpk1, I prefer aptitude myself03:41
chuckypcpk1, with the options to fix broken dependencies etc...03:41
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chuckypnikotin, what language do you speak natively?03:41
nikotinfrench...03:41
chuckyp!fr03:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:42
inglor!he03:42
ubotu         03:42
bretzelhello ???03:42
ingloryay, lots of gibberish03:42
nikotinhello03:42
chuckypbretzel, yo03:42
nikotinwhat's gibberish?03:42
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prabeshHey all.03:43
bretzelno one knows why in terminal console mode default setup, there is no graphics alt-charset in Ubuntu ? ( although "dialog" does somthing to the terminal to be able to display boxes )...03:43
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Kluster_v2nikotin, il y a des canaux pour ceux qui parlent francais et aussi ceux trop brillants pour utiliser ubuntu :)03:43
prabeshHow come when I issue init 6 to my box (Ubuntu 6.06), it freezes on "Stopping domain name service..."?03:43
Sannenight all03:44
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nikotinapparemment tu parle francais toi mme...03:44
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cpk1didnt think you even used init in ubuntu03:44
nikotinyes..03:44
prabeshIn addition, is there any way for the ifup scripts to skip the state file?03:44
bretzelKluster_v2: "Top brillant pour Ubuntu ?"  Since when ubuntu is for idiots ? :-)03:44
bretzelTrop*03:44
voraistoshey i just found out something strange. When i dl a .deb with Firefox, i can choose to open it with Gdebi. It asks me to grant admin privileges, but doesnt ask any pass. Isnt that a security problem?03:44
nikotinmuch easier in all cases03:44
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prabeshFor example, if there is a problem and I do a hard reboot, the states say that the interfaces are already configured.03:45
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chuckypvoraistos, are you logged in as a normal user? or root?03:45
liquidtenmillionvoraistos: GNOME will temporarily store the password if you used it within 5 minutes or so I think.03:45
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Flannelliquidtenmillion: 15 is default03:45
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voraistoswell, i am not root, and havent been using any Gdebi within 5 mins03:46
SembianceWhat is that little application running on the top left? http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/images/screenshots/darkliquid_2.jpg03:46
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voraistosnor any apt-get03:46
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kitcheSembiance: probably conky03:46
liquidtenmillionvoraistos: If you used anything that required gksudo in the past 15 minutes, it temporarily stored your password.03:46
nikotinit's upgrade time...03:46
Flannelliquidtenmillion: actually, it's 10.  just looked it up.  knew that 5 is too short though ;)03:47
voraistosokok dont remember, but thats certainly it03:47
Samuli^voraistos, are you using firefox as root.. ok, ok. stupid question, at least it should be :)03:47
DrBanzaiAnybody in here use the cluster mode of dvd::rip?03:47
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voraistosSamuli^ there is no way to exec firefox as root03:47
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liquidtenmillionFlannel: Well I've never been sure of the actual number, just that it did store it for a few minutes03:47
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Flannelliquidtenmillion: well, now we both know ;)03:48
Samuli^voraistos, yes there is. I just did.03:48
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voraistoswith sudo it tells you it blocks a few options or something. not sure. dont wanna try ;)03:49
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Samuli^voraistos, I used gksudo.03:49
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majd!samba03:49
voraistoslol03:49
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:49
Samuli^but anyways, you must've used the sudo command in the 10-15min range before.03:49
Sembiancekitche: thanks03:50
smoked1Quick question about the "Terminal Server Client".. If I am in full screen mode how do I get out and back to another windows on my linux box?03:50
voraistosby the way it was to install Exaile (Amarok for gnome) there is a dapper package on the website, but not in our repos ?!03:50
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[BTF] Chm0danyone available for alittle help?03:51
inglorsure03:51
inglorask ahead03:51
chuckypAnyone know of a good text based system monitor for the desktop?03:51
Samuli^voraistos, there's amarok for gnome?03:51
voraistosYES !!!!!!!!!03:51
Samuli^that is sweeet.03:52
[BTF] Chm0dive installed ubuntu dapper 6.05 yesterday and my root pword only works for certain operations.03:52
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inglorof course there is amarok for gnome :)03:52
[BTF] Chm0di am trying to run the nvidia installer but its not accepting my root password03:52
inglordid you try to sudo it?03:52
voraistosExaile and Banshee. Banshee is in our repos, but not its plugins.03:52
Samuli^well there's amarok that works for gnome too.. but amarok for gnome. geez :)03:52
[BTF] Chm0dbut if I go into system administration it works03:52
inglorsudo appname03:52
[BTF] Chm0dno i did not03:52
liquidtenmillionchuckyp: Conky03:52
[BTF] Chm0dkinda new to ubuntu03:52
inglorsu is not very safe, it doesn't work with some stuff in ubuntu because of that03:52
chuckyp[BTF] Chm0d, hrm.. well the nvidia installer you would sudo sh NVIDIA-whatever.run03:52
[BTF] Chm0do03:53
chuckypliquidtenmillion, conky flickers in gnome03:53
inglortry:03:53
inglorsudo <whatever command here>03:53
inglorand it runs it as root03:53
[BTF] Chm0dok thx very much03:53
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inglorany time03:53
mendigaumany1 can help me in a litlle thing? i wanna use a router modem in ubuntu 6.06 dsk and i am using a "dlink DSL-500T" when i do "sudo pppoeconf" there doesnt find any device, but if i use an speedstream 5200 in non-router mode that works and connect well.03:53
Samuli^I have a odd problem btw. alt doesn't seem to be working all the time.03:53
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[BTF] Chm0dbummer it says command not found03:54
Sembiancewow en.wikipedia.com is sloooow03:54
voraistosSamuli^ what  do you mean ?03:54
liquidtenmillionchuckyp: Add the following lines to your .conkyrc  "own_window yes"   "own_window_transparent yes" and "own_window_type override"03:54
chuckyp[BTF] Chm0d, what command?03:54
Flannel!tell [BTF] Chm0d about nvidia03:54
chuckyp[BTF] Chm0d, follow the directions given by ubotu03:54
chuckypliquidtenmillion, let me give that a try03:55
liquidtenmillionchuckyp:  and also add "double_buffer"03:55
mendigaumany1 can help me in a litlle thing? i wanna use a router modem in ubuntu 6.06 dsk and i am using a "dlink DSL-500T" when i do "sudo pppoeconf" there doesnt find any device, but if i use an speedstream 5200 in non-router mode that works and connect well.03:55
inglorchm0d, what do you mean command not found, which03:55
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inglormendigaum, does it find connectivity at all in ifconfig?03:55
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chuckypliquidtenmillion, are you running conky?03:55
nikotinok, does anyone know any channel where french is spoken?03:55
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liquidtenmillionchuckyp: yes, right now, in gnome 2.14 with no flicker03:56
cafuegonikotin: #ubuntu-fr03:56
Samuli^nikotin #ubuntu-fr?03:56
chuckypliquidtenmillion, cool lets see if I can add those.03:56
nikotinthanks :)03:56
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smoked1 When in full screen mode on the terminal server client how do i minimize back to linux03:56
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mendigaum[inglor] : i dont know03:56
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Samuli^voraistos, what I mean is that when I try to put out character that need alt+something, it just acts like alt isn't pressed down.03:57
mendigaum[inglor] : if i use the speedstream 5200 and use sudo pppoeconf03:57
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liquidtenmillionchuckyp: You might also need to add "on_bottom yes" to your .conkyrc also.03:57
voraistosSamuli^ hmmmmmmmm are you thinking about replacing your keyboard anytime soon ?03:57
Samuli^Well, yeah, but I don't think it's that :)03:58
mendigaum[inglor] : i can connect well! but using the dlink or speedstream 5200, both as routers there is no connectvity in Firefox03:58
Samuli^it works in windows.03:58
voraistosSamuli^ lol. i dont know what that could be03:58
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majdhow do i create a samba account?03:58
liquidtenmillionSamuli^: So basically, what you want is to be able to hit "alt+157" and get a letter with an accent over it?03:58
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liquidtenmillionSamuli^: instead of just 157?03:58
cafuegomajd: Via `smbpasswd'03:59
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cafuegoSamul: Like so?03:59
mendigaum[inglor] : are u here? :)03:59
Samuli^liquidtenmillion, no, I don't mind those, but I like the 'at' character I need for e-mail and stuff like that.03:59
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voraistosSamuli^ does it work on linux, never tried that, i have french keyboard, no need for special command :)04:00
ingloryes, I'm here now04:00
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z0rzYou know what I don't get....04:00
liquidtenmillionSamuli^: Shift+2?  Are you using an en_US qwerty keyboard?04:00
Samuli^voraistos, I have no idea, I have finnish-keyboard :)04:00
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cafuegovoraistos: gnome has a compose key option, which works fine. compose, accent, letter.04:00
liquidtenmillionSamuli^: Oh I see.04:00
Samuli^liquidtenmillion, for me it's alt+204:00
z0rzI can boot Xubuntu live at 1280x1024 .. but then I install it and I don't have the choice of 1280x1024 in the Display settings ... how can I get this resolution?04:00
briguydis there a way to change capslock to shift+capslock instead?04:01
cafuegoSml04:01
eyequeuez0rz, tried #xubuntu yet?04:01
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briguydusing xmodmap or loadkeys or something like that?04:01
kb3istigerz0rz: it is an issue with your monitor being correctly identified, you can manually had that resolution in xorg.conf04:01
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z0rzand xorg.conf is in my ~ dir?04:02
Samuli^cafuego, that's an swedish o, that I despise "" :)04:02
cafuegoSamuli^: :-)04:02
kb3istigerz0rz: no it is in your /etc/X11 directory. You might want to search google for editing it before you start if you are not sure about how to edit it.04:02
Samuli^cafuego, too many forced swedish classes as child :)04:02
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Samuli^hehe, well they're pretty much the same expect for finnish.04:03
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voraistos#~{[|\^@] }  I get that stuffpressing normal keys + Alt Gr.04:03
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eyequeuefinnish is different?  is that why they write kernels there?04:03
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kitchez0rz: it really depends on what driver you are using since for really high res you need binary drivers04:03
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Samuli^eyequeue, yes, we speak python and c here :)04:04
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chuckypliquidtenmillion, Conky: failed to set up double buffer04:04
chuckypConky: drawing to single buffer04:04
eyequeueSamuli^, lol04:04
voraistos<>`'`' the same with maj. Out of the box. And i am not using the computer with the 109 keys Japanese keyboard ;)04:04
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fatbrainbah, Bug Buddy crashes when you hit "Forward"04:04
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eyequeuefatbrain, file a bug on it? ;-)04:05
liquidtenmillionchuckyp: That's not good.04:05
fatbraineyequeue: tried to :P04:05
fatbrainstarted with gedit.04:05
chuckypliquidtenmillion, yeah I don't get it04:05
fatbrainwell, off to bed.04:05
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Samuli^cafuego, where are you from?04:05
cafuegoSamuli^: holland04:05
eyequeuefatbrain, i was jking, but i do know you can file one on the web, or via email too i believe  watch ubotu04:05
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eyequeue!bugs04:05
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com04:05
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chuckypliquidtenmillion, thats definately why i'm getting the flicker04:05
liquidtenmillionchuckyp: It's probably a problem with your Xorg configuration file.  Run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then add this line "Load "dbe"" into the "Section "Module"" section and save and then restart x11.04:05
fatbraineyequeue: I know, but still, a bug app that relies on some lib that's broken, sucks04:06
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Samuli^I see, but let me tell you, your language is as much weird as ours :)04:06
eyequeuefatbrain, yeah, the strange irony makes me smile, but it definitely isn't good for it to remain that way at all04:06
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liquidtenmillionchuckyp: So near where you have "load glx" and "load dri" and such just add "Load "dbe"" also.04:06
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Samuli^cafuego, what do you think of belgium, do you understand theirs?04:06
fatbrainindeesd, think I will reinstall ubuntu... some day04:07
liquidtenmillionchuckyp: DBE stands for double-buffer extension04:07
cafuegoSamuli^: Yup, but that's just dutch as it was a hundred or so years ago.04:07
chuckypliquidtenmillion, ahh gotcha yeah that was missing let me restart gdm brb04:07
eyequeuefatbrain, the day before you do, may i make a suggestion?04:07
fatbraingo ahead.04:07
Lam_is there a linux program that i can install that'll allow my computer keyboard to be turned into a piano?04:07
Samuli^cafuego, I've always though they sound like they're choking when they speak :)04:07
cafuegoSamuli^: graag gedaan!04:08
eyequeuefatbrain, df -h, to see your own usage patterns, then you can partition as you may like, at least a /home so reinstalls are more painless, heh04:08
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Samuli^cafuego, geez, that sounded aggressive, lol.04:08
myriadi just compiled a .c file with gcc, but how do i run the output file, "a.out" ?04:08
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eyequeue./a.out  if it is chmod +x04:09
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chuckypliquidtenmillion, okay that worked only thing that didn't wokr is I added it to the session as a startup program it loaded upon loggin in then when the wallpaper came up it disappeared04:09
fatbraineyequeue: will do.04:09
cafuegoSamuli^: only means "you're welcome" ;-)04:10
sorush20I have a problem.. my kernel does load and it stop at a point where it is asking me choose a runlevel..04:10
liquidtenmillioneyequeue: That backfires after a while.  I made separate partitions for my slackware install about 3  years ago.  I ended up filling my /home partition 100%, and was completely unable to back my data up,(only have cd burner, have several dozens of gigs of data, no other partition large enough to copy the data too, no more IDE slots, etc), so now my /home directory has thousands of symlinks to other partitions.04:10
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sorush20how can I fix the problem?04:10
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myriadwhat purpose does the "./" serve exactly?04:10
Samuli^cafuego, haha. :)04:10
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liquidtenmillionchuckyp: I think I had problems with it starting too.  Make sure you start it AFTER nautilus starts up.  For me it only really works if i start it manually, otherwise nautilus tries to cover it.04:11
eyequeueliquidtenmillion, i typically nfs-mount /home, except on the laptop04:11
Flannelmyriad: ./something means the something file in this directory04:11
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eyequeuemyriad, "current-dir" (which is hopefully not in your path)04:11
myriadFlannel:  why doesn't it assume that if i type "something" that i mean the something file in the current dir?04:11
sethkmyriad, because that's a bad thing to do04:11
sethkmyriad, the reason is:04:11
chuckypliquidtenmillion, yeah that appears to be what happened.  Do you know much about configuring what information it displays?  is that all in the .conkyrc file?04:11
eyequeuemyriad, . "current-dir"      .. "parent-dir"04:11
Flannelmyriad: because it checks the include paths, etc04:11
sethkmyriad, the program that is run should not depend on the current directory04:12
liquidtenmillionchuckyp: It's all in the .conkyrc file.  It's rather confusing at first too.04:12
sethkmyriad, otherwise, you type something in one directory, it works, you type it in another directory, it doesn't04:12
sethkmyriad, but that's not the really bad case04:12
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fatbrainhrm04:12
liquidtenmillionchuckyp: typing in "man conky" gives you all of the different options kind of.04:12
fatbrainhow can I format a usb-harddrive?04:12
sethkmyriad, the really bad case is when in one directory it finds one program, and in a different directory it finds a different program04:12
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sethkmyriad, you can, if you choose, add "." to your path04:12
sethkmyriad, if you do this, add it to the end, at least, not the beginning04:13
eyequeuefatbrain, you want to low-lever format it?  or make a filesystem on it?  mkfs is probably what you want04:13
sethkmyriad, as in:  export PATH=$PATH:.04:13
fatbraineyequeue: thanks04:13
chuckypliquidtenmillion, ty04:13
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sorush20how do I mount a partition in live mode?04:13
myriadsethk:   so if you have multiple programs with the same name in different directories, is there a way to add one of them to a path so that it is the default program executed when that name is typed?04:13
eyequeuefatbrain, mkfs.(and then press tab, you'll see a lot of choices for fs heh)04:13
sethkmyriad, two ways, actually04:13
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w30sorush20, money! you can buy a usb container for a hard drive for 30bucks. That plus a used hard drive will get you out of trouble. You can make an iso remove what you "isoed" and repeat.04:13
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SynchronizeRQUESTION: Good evening , using X-chat  from a wireless network at a hotel in Toronto,Ca. on an Acer 5102 notebook using a Turion and ubuntu 6.06LTS. Everyting , and mean everythig ,runs smoothly exept the built-in web-cam. Anybody has got it to work?04:14
sethkmyriad, one way is to remember that the PATH directories are searched in order.  So, for example, if your path is, say,    bin:/usr/bin      and there is a program foo in /bin, then the one in /bin will always be run04:14
eyequeuew30, i thought he wanted "mount" from a livecd, hehe04:14
sethkmyriad, regardless of whether a program named foo exists in /usr/bin (or anywhere else for that matter)04:14
sethkmyriad, there is also an alias mechanism04:14
sethkmyriad, you can say:      alias ssh=/usr/bin/ssh            which will force the name    ssh    to mean /usr/bin/ssh, regardless of PATH04:15
sorush20eyequeue: w30 is be silly04:15
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myriadi see.  is this aliasing temporary?04:15
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sethkmyriad, yes.04:15
sethkmyriad, typically you put the alias statement in a startup file (such as $HOME/.bashrc)04:15
eyequeuesorush20, the mount command, even from the livecd, you jus have to be sure the /mount/point exists first04:15
sethkmyriad, you can set and clear aliases at any time04:15
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sethkmyriad, to clear you use   unalias04:15
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eyequeuesorush20, there may be some gui way, someone else may know that i don't04:16
myriadsethk:  so rebooting clears aliases, but putting them into a startup file sets them upon every boot?04:16
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sethkmyriad, brb, have to deal with a quick phone call04:16
sethkmyriad, but, basically, yes04:16
myriadsethk:  np04:16
sky123Hello is anyone familiar with migration of MAILDIRS from Postix to Qmail??04:17
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Gun_Smokewhat is the protocol for Tem Serv Client to connect to a xp machine?04:18
w30sorush20, I read your question and liquidtenmillion's together as one, ha the bifocals are getting to me again.04:18
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sethkmyriad, sorry, I'm back.  have to work occasionally  :)04:19
sethkmyriad, the alias is only meaningful in the shell, and not every program is run by the shell.  also, even if a program is run by a shell, it's not always the same shell.04:20
sethkmyriad, there are files in /etc that are read when shells start for all users, but even that's not complete04:20
sorush20w30: that is good to know..04:20
sethkmyriad, because there are many shells.  I use zsh, for example, because it is far superior to bash (at least IMO).  so something in a bash init file is ignored.04:21
sethkmyriad, there is in fact by convention a file that's read by all the shells, but you can't rely on it.04:21
myriadsethk:   i think i need to do some serious reading on the fundamentals of linux.  i am coming from a windows environment and trying to get used to all of this.04:21
bmcfarlihey guys, this is prolly the easiest question ever, but i need to ssh to a computer. How do i do this in the terminal?04:21
sethkmyriad, because you can add programs to the list of allowable shells.04:21
myriadsethk:   i don't even fully understand what a shell is, unfortunately04:21
sorush20what log do I have to check to see why my hdd kubuntu installation did not fully load and stoped and gave the message to enter a number for run level?04:21
sethkmyriad, it isn't terribly difficult, it is just that you have a lot to understand all at once.04:21
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sethkmyriad, here is something that you will find very helpful04:21
sethkmyriad, there is a set of unix programs that run in windows (in win32 to be more precise) called cygwin.04:22
sethkmyriad, both the bash and zsh shells are part of this set of programs04:22
sethkmyriad, in windows, there is typically only one shell, cmd, although it is too pathetic to really call a shell04:22
myriadok04:23
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sethkmyriad, by installing cygwin and running bash and/or zsh and/or ksh (and several others, believe it or not) you can sometimes gain some insight into what is doing what to whom.  :)04:23
sethkmyriad, also, you can use it to transfer files between linux and windows using sftp, scp, can log into linux from windows with ssh,04:23
sethkmyriad, so it's a very handy set of programs to have in windows.04:23
myriadso a shell is a program that takes input from the user and performs the functions requested?  or am i way off base...04:24
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sethkmyriad, basically04:24
sethkmyriad, when you log in, the shell is the program that is started, prints the prompt that you see, and interprets the lines you type.04:24
myriadsethk:  i see04:24
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sethkmyriad, it's a bit (as usual) more complicated, because some commands are just processed by the shell (such as  alias=whatever, for example)04:25
z0rzAlright so I tried editing the Xorg.conf file serveral times and that hasn't seemed to help my resolution problem .. I'm trying to run at 1280x1024 but it looks like it's running at about 1024x76804:25
KhaotikHello all04:25
sethkmyriad, but most commands start with a program, and the shell finds this program and tells the o/s to execute it.04:25
z0rzIs there any other way to change the resolution in Xubuntu?04:25
sethkmyriad, so you were correct, ignoring a few technicalities04:25
sethkz0rz, you shouldn't edit that file04:25
myriadsethk:  i think i see.  aliasing is a mechanism purely internal to the operation of the shell itself, while other commands usually reference external programs04:25
sethkz0rz, use   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:25
z0rzWell someone just told me to04:26
sethkmyriad, right.04:26
sethkmyriad, of course, I could give you a few dozen "but"s, but sometimes it is better to be a hair inaccurate.  :)04:26
myriadsethk:  hehe04:26
KhaotikCan someone tell me what the command is that im supposed to run after an OEM install of ubuntu? It was 8am when I did this and I was half asleep and forgot today.04:26
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sethkKhaotik, I have it written down at work, but it is slipping my mind also.  ugh.04:27
Khaotikbah04:27
Khaotik=)04:27
KhaotikI hadnt slept for almost 26 hours04:27
myriadsethk:   why do you think it is better for me to experiment with the shells in cygwin than directly in linux?04:27
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Khaotiki got a slew of computers that im installing OEM ubuntu on and selling them04:27
Khaotikthis is the first of the lot.04:27
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sethkmyriad, no04:28
sethkmyriad, in general, jump into linux.  but everybody is different04:28
Khaotiksethk, do you have any idea where i could find this information?04:28
sethkmyriad, sometimes it's easier to figure out what's going on when you change one thing at a time.04:28
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sethkKhaotik, google for it, it will show up in the ubuntu forums04:29
Khaotiksethk: google for what i dont know the command04:29
Khaotik:)04:29
pinkySo does Dapper still have 2.6.15?  I heard somewhere that there is some sort of version of Ubuntu that ships with 2.6.1704:29
sethkKhaotik, for ubuntu oem install user configuration04:29
myriadsethk:  thanks very much for your help, now i get to go do my programming homework  =)04:29
Khaotiksethk: hmm ok04:29
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quietpinky: probably Edgy knot 204:30
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JoseStefan!edgy > pinky04:30
sethkpinky, doesn't "ship" with anything, exactly, but the default kernel for edgy is of course newer than that for dapper04:30
npodges!edgy > npodges04:30
quietlol.04:30
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quietnpodges: you can do /msg ubotu edgy04:30
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_divan_Hi everybody04:31
^^Bran^^ello04:31
quiet_divan_: what would you do if 900 people said "hello" back?04:31
quiet;)04:31
_divan_=)04:31
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faustoanybody here familiar with JACK?04:32
quietmehoff?04:32
quietOH!04:32
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quietsorry04:32
jiShjackovasaur?04:32
faustoLol04:32
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faustoI have gotten it to work with Virtual Keyboard and a synth and it works great ...04:32
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quietsweet.04:33
faustoHowever when I try to get rosegarden to play through it I get nothing04:33
faustoAnd i get an Xrun every time i start jack04:33
Khaotikhah,04:33
faustoBut it keeps working04:33
faustoSo I don't know what to do04:33
Khaotiksethk: i found the command04:33
Khaotikits sudo: oem-config-prepare04:33
faustoI've been playing with the settings but no avail04:33
Khaotikminus the :04:33
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faustoAnybody got any ideas as to what I may be doing wrong?04:34
eternalswdanyone here know what happened to the zsh channel?04:34
jribeternalswd: nothing?04:34
linuxcraz1hi what msql should I get to host web forums, mysql-server?04:34
nonymBran, thanks for the tip, seems theres a lot more people here :)04:34
_divan_I'm having trouble with my USB mp3 player on Ubuntu, file copying speed is very very slow, does anyone know how can i solve it?04:34
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Khaotik_divan_:get usb 2.0?04:34
faustoSo anyone out there giving this a shot or is this a lost cause?04:35
Khaotik^_^04:35
jribeternalswd: (I'm in it now)04:35
eternalswdI know it was on freenode before, but it's not registering anymore, so was just wondering if anyone on here was in on the loop04:35
_divan_Khaotik, yep04:35
linuxcraz1can someone help?04:35
Khaotik_divan_:other than that i have no idea, im kinda new to linux.04:35
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eternalswdjrib, I'm an idiot, I forgot the pound sign lol04:36
jribeternalswd: :)04:36
Khaotik_divan_:i copied 12gb onto my zen one time over usb.... with 1.104:36
w30fausto, check this out, ha! http://home.pacbell.net/diana_do/knowjack.htm04:36
DrBanzaiAnybody in here use the cluster mode of dvd::rip?04:37
Khaotikanyway im out. Bye all04:37
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faustolol04:37
faustoThanks04:37
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nonymhi, I want to add Xubuntu to my DOS boot menu so I can boot it, can anyone tell me what I should point to? my Xubuntu is on hdb604:38
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nonymI also have LILO but I never tried configuring that before...04:38
quietnonym: why not just use GRUB?04:38
nonymI installed Feather LInux afte Xubuntu, which is why I have LILO04:39
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quietcan you boot to Xubuntu from LILO?04:39
Flannelnonym: LILO will work, but I don't think DOS can boot linux04:39
nonymI don't konow, but I guess yes04:39
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nonymFlannel, ok04:39
quietboot xubuntu and run 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda'04:39
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nonymquiet, thanks but I can't lose LILO or I wont' be able to get into Windows04:40
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nonymfor some strange reason...04:40
quietnonym: yes you will.04:40
nonymno I tried04:40
nonymI have some NTLDR IS MISSING error04:40
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quietthe ubuntu grub has a commented section in /boot/grub/menu.lst that tells you exactly how to add a windows system.04:40
nonymDOS boot loader doesn't manage either04:40
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quietif  it says NTLDR is missing, than you pointed to the wrong partition.04:41
nonymwell, it was added before, but I got the same error that the DOS boot menu gives... :S04:41
myesterioushi04:41
faustoHoly crap man I can even control the transport from qjackctl04:41
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faustoBut I can't hear anything from Rosegarden!04:41
nonymNTLDR IS MISSING is a weird error with tons of different explanations from different people04:41
nwbrenemanHi, I used Nautilus to create a link to a folder, but I'd now like to remove that link too. If I try to delete it, it thinks I'm trying to delete the actual folder. How do I remove the link?04:41
myesteriousHow can i disable "agpgart" ?04:41
nonymI don't understand it, other than LILO manages to get me in for whatever reason04:41
quietit's not a wierd error... it's the Windows chainloader.04:42
quietbootloader... but it's a chainloader because your using grub/lilo04:42
nonymsorry, I don't know what chainloader is04:42
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myesteriousI have added 'agpgart' at discover.conf and blacklist but its still loading..04:42
nonymseveral boot loaders?04:43
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quietnonym: yes.  NTLDR is what boots the NTOSKRNL04:43
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nonymI had the error before too, when I only had one loader04:43
quietyou direct grub to the partition where windows is installerd witha  chaonloader +104:43
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quietand it proceeds to boot NTLDR04:43
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nonymok04:44
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quietnonym: it happens when you break your windows partition.04:44
nonymyeah I guess, I got that error after installing another hd04:44
chuckypWhat is the proper directory to put a script in?04:44
quietyou can sometimes fix it by booting to the recovery console in the Windows disc and running fixboot and/or fixmbr04:44
chuckypi.e. the proper directory thats in my path.  proper as in the preferred way.04:44
quietchuckyp: /usr/bin, probably.04:45
nonymI think I did that, and lots of other things too04:45
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chuckypquiet, k04:45
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nonymI read several articles, e.g. on Microsoft's pages, didn't work any of it...04:45
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quietwhat partition is Windows?04:45
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Samuli^nonym, do you happen to have windows on the second harddrive?04:45
nonymyes04:46
nonymhdb504:46
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nonymor hdb3, not sure :)04:46
Samuli^nonym, you need to add mapping hd0, to hd1 and hd1 to hd0 in your grub.conf04:46
nonymactually I think it's across two partitions...04:46
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Samuli^windows doesn't like to be on the second hd, so that's the workaround.04:46
nonymok04:46
FlannelSamuli^, nonym, you need letters in there too.04:47
quietnonym: you need to use whatever contains n:\WINDOWS\04:47
quietn = C, usualluy.04:47
quietusually*04:47
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Samuli^Flannel, actually grub understands stuff in 0,0 etc. format. 0,0 meaning hda104:47
nonymI have three or four Windows installed...04:47
nwbrenemanHi, I used Nautilus to create a link to a folder, but I'd now like to remove that link too. If I try to delete it, it thinks I'm trying to delete the actual folder. How do I remove the link?04:47
quietjesus christ.04:47
quietwhy?04:48
nonymplus 3.11  and 1.0 :)04:48
quietargh.04:48
nonymonly xp works though04:48
FlannelSamuli^: er, right.  didn't realise we were spekaing grub ;)04:48
nonym98 works sort of, 2000 doesn't really work04:48
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justin__nonym: Doesn't work as double boot ? or altogether?04:49
Samuli^flannel, it's pretty annoying though, how grub and the kernel have different designations.04:49
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jerrybhey anyone know how to make glxgears spit out the frame rate nowadays?04:49
quietjustin__: we know windows doesn't work as in altogether  ;)04:49
justin__Cause I would be the first to say that Windows 2000, is probably the only windows that "works" ever...04:49
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Flanneljerryb: glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark04:49
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justin__quiet: Well it all depends on what you want to do with your PC, if your a hardcore gamer for instance :P04:50
quiet2000 and XP both work rather well... if you keep them off the internet.04:50
Flanneljerryb: or glxgears -printfps, if you don't want to type that much04:50
justin__quiet, indeed04:50
justin__Well anyways enough of that before we get offtopic hehe04:50
jerrybFlannel, thanks04:50
quietthey should make a Ubuntu theme for Litestep or BBLean04:50
quiet:)04:51
quietprobably is one... i dunno.. i don't use either, actually.04:51
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Samuli^neither option works for my version of glxgears.04:51
nonymmy hd's are a bit messy, win98 starts to boot, 2000 doesn't really boot04:52
nonymanyway, so far I have "sudo grub-install /dev/hda04:52
nonymthen "chaonloader +104:52
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nonymchainloader +104:52
nonymprobably04:52
Samuli^nonym, yes.04:52
nonymok04:52
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thenetduckhello does anyone know what channel to go to for wireless help????04:53
nonymI put the chainloader +1 in a document called grub.conf ?04:53
Samuli^keep the chainloader stuff and map your hd's vice versa so windows will think it sits happily in the first HD.04:53
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quietthis one thenetduck, ask your question.04:53
adchello, having issues installing libsdl-dev , unmet dependencies04:53
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thenetducksweet, thakns quiet, I cant configure my wireless card, and it shows up as eth2 instead of a wlan .... I have had it working before so I know it works with ubuntu, but i cant seem to configure it04:54
nonymSamuli, I don't understand, would it help if I changed the cables and BIOS setting, so my other drive is Primary master?04:54
nwbrenemanNo one can tell me how to remove a file/directory link?04:54
thenetduckquiet i just set upa router (Net Gear) and can't get connectd to the internet on my desktop that uses a wireless card04:54
Samuli^nonym, that would probably help too, but really. it's /boot/menu.lst you want to chance.04:55
nonymok04:55
nonymthat's an Xubuntu file, right?04:55
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thenetduckquiet right now im using my labtop that has apple on it.... thats how im connected to the internet....04:55
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Samuli^nonym, first take a copy of that "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup04:55
thenetduckquiet, i really don't know what to do... as to get my internet working for my desktop04:55
nonymok04:56
Samuli^nonym, yes, it should be in your root directory.04:56
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nonymok, I'm in Windows xp but I have access to the xubuntu partition...04:56
chuckypAnyone know of a way to copy my panel configuration etc.. to another users?04:56
chuckypGnome panel that is.04:56
chuckypand I'm also looking for a way to display the user names on the login screen so that a person just clicks on the username and just enters their password04:57
Samuli^nonym, ok, so you can edit the menu.lst, open it up.04:58
nonymok, actually I can do that right now...04:58
quietthenetduck: is it a broadcom chipset, by chance?04:58
thenetduckerr.. not sure how do I  find that out quiet?04:58
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quietthenetduck: lspci or tell me the card model.04:59
Flannelchuckyp: go to administration > login screen04:59
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Flannelchuckyp: and you'll see a few options (some of which show usernames)04:59
thenetduckit says its a VIA Technologies, Inc04:59
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thenetduckquiet VT823705:00
quietumm... no.05:00
nonymthe line breaks are of course messed up, but I am looking at a copy of menu.lst now05:00
quietthat's not wireless... i don't think.05:00
thenetduckquiet VIA Technologies05:00
bmcfarlihey guys, for some reason I cant rename my harddrives. Any suggestions?05:00
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quietAFAIK VIA doesn't make wireless chipsets05:00
quietthey make ethernet chips.05:00
thenetduckquiet forget what i just said ...05:00
thenetduckquiet ya it says Broadcom Corporation BCM05:01
^^Bran^^happy gnome w/ browser does if I recall chuck05:01
quietthere we go.05:01
adccan someone help me with some dependency hell?05:01
Flannel!ask05:01
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:01
adci did earlier05:01
cafuegoadc: We don't support redhat, sorry ;-)05:02
Samuli^nonym, so.. it should have title windows xp or similar towards the end of file.05:02
adchving issues with libsdl-dev05:02
Flanneladc: 'unmet dependencies' which ones?05:02
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cafuegoadc: Missing depends? Do you have any non-official repositories enabled?05:02
nonymok, I'll search for "windows" -- impossible to read it manually with messed up line breaks...05:02
adclibglu1-mesa-dev05:02
adc  libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.4.1-0ubuntu8) but 6.5.1-cvs20060628 is to be installed05:03
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cafuegoadc: Are you on edgy?05:03
adcthis is dapper05:03
GaiaX11How to open file.tex ?05:03
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Flanneladc: where did you get libsdl-dev?05:03
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adcapt05:04
zenofjazzGood evening again, wizards of Ubuntu05:04
zenofjazzSame question as last night...05:04
nonymare the # signs line beginnings in linux text files seen in Windows?05:04
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cafuegoadc: There is no 'libsdl-dev' in Dapper.05:04
adcoops, libsdl1.2-dev05:04
chuckypFlannel, so I have to pick a login theme with a user browser?05:04
zenofjazzYes.   the "#" character indicates its a comment05:04
sbkfolks -- I'm looking for the hp-setup utility that (in theory) comes along with hplip; but it appears to be missing. Is it available as part of some other package?05:04
nonymok05:04
Flannelchuckyp: right05:04
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Samuli^nonym, some of them are.05:05
chuckypahh hrm...05:05
nonymok05:05
nonymI have found Windows mentioned at the end of the menu.lst document05:05
zenofjazzyes.  that's for if you are going to dual boot.05:05
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Samuli^nonym, actually, all of them, but they're not the only ones that are a start of a line.05:05
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cafuegoadc: The libglu1-mesa(-dev) packages here are both 6.5.1+cvs20060824. Are you package lists up to date?05:05
nonymI see05:06
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sessI need a good development library, any suggestions?05:06
adcyes05:06
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adcapt-get update right ?05:07
zenofjazzI am having a GRUB problem, on a ubuntu server setup.05:07
nonymcould this be a line, and the correct one? :05:07
sesssorry, not development library, I meant Development IDE05:07
nonym"# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS# on /dev/hdb1titleMicrosoft Windows XP Home Editionroot(hd1,0)savedefaultmakeactivemap(hd0) (hd1)map(hd1) (hd0)chainloader+105:07
sessC++, JAVA, and if possible, Id like it to also do php/html coding05:07
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adchmmm i tried compiz awhile ago maybe there are leftovers from that. thnks for verifying it works for you. i'll let you know in a few05:07
Samuli^nonym, so anyways, this is a bit hard now that you have skewed text-editor.. you should have there something like root (1,something) and them makedefault, saveactive etc?05:07
sessIll be making SDL apps05:07
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chuckypFlannel, last question is do you know where gnome stores settings for the pannels?  I want to mimic my pannel layout in another users home05:08
Samuli^err, savedefault, makeactive.05:08
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Flannelchuckyp: no idea05:08
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nonymok, savedefault, makeactive05:08
nonymI'll look for that05:08
Samuli^nonym, they should be right after the "title microsoft windows xp..."05:09
nonymyes, I found that05:09
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zenofjazzchuckyp: yes. in your /home/<username> directory there are . directories for the various settings.05:09
fokusleei have a prob with running sudo dpkg-reconfigure can someone help me?05:09
nonymok05:09
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nonymI have, "Windows NT/2000/XP (loader)05:09
nonymroot(hd0,0)05:09
nonymsavedefault05:09
nonymmakeactive05:09
nonymchainloader+105:09
nonym(sorry)05:09
Samuli^nonym, ok, great.05:09
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nonymthe linebreaks seems were part of the document05:10
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Samuli^nonym, after makeactive add to a separate line: "map (hd0) (hd1)" without the quotes.05:10
nonymok05:10
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hou5tonMy video isn't working properly on some sites .... for example, on this site, only the sound works . not the actual video??   http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/05:11
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Samuli^nonym, and again to a new line map (hd1) (hd0) and that should hopefully do the trick.05:11
nonymI'll write it down and do it from inside Linux05:11
nonymok05:11
nonymthanks05:11
nonymmap (hd1) (hd0)05:11
nonymthen05:11
Samuli^you might need to change "root" to "rootnoverify" too, but try it like that and if it doesn't work and that.05:11
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Samuli^and = add05:11
nonymok05:11
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zenofjazzSamuli... sounds like you know your grub?05:12
fokuslee i have a prob with running sudo dpkg-reconfigure can someone help me?05:12
adchmmm, 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 is the "latest version"05:12
Samuli^and take the backup before you change anything "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup"05:12
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Samuli^zenofjazz, I've had my problems with it. :)05:13
zenofjazzcan I bounce a problem off you, Samuli?05:13
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nonymok05:13
nonymwhat does sudo cp do?05:13
Samuli^if I can help.05:13
zenofjazzok, I'll msg you, as it's a long description05:13
Samuli^sudo grants you 'super-user' status and cp is copy.05:13
nonymok05:13
hou5tonMy video isn't working properly on some sites .... for example, on this site, only the sound works . not the actual video??   http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/05:14
hou5tonany ideas?05:14
keeganHello Everyone, I recently installed XFCE 4.4RC1 onto my Xubuntu.  I tried installing a theme from xfce-look and I put it in the folder with all the other themes, but it never loads up in the look and feel settings?  Anyone know the cause of this?05:14
Samuli^nonym, in linux you need to be 'administrator' to mingle with system-files like menu.lst, that's what sudo grants you for that command.05:14
adccafuego: apt-get update doesnt seem to be updating it05:14
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nonymok, I already made a root password, which I read isn't good in ubuntu though05:15
cafuegoadc: Maybe your mirror is out of sync.05:15
Dr_Willisnonym,  its a bad habbit.05:15
eyequeue!root > nonym05:15
Dr_Willis:)05:15
nonymbtw., I didn't see the rest of the line, so that's why I first thought sudo ch was the whole command05:15
adcarchive.ubuntu.com05:15
nonymsudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup05:16
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nonym...is the whole line, I noticed finally :)05:16
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quietit's not bad habit to have a root account, it's bad habit to run as root for day-to-day operations.05:16
adchmmm, mybe it wants me to restart with the patched kernel05:16
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quieti guess disabling root for the people that aren't responsible enough to use it is the easiest option for the security team though.05:16
quietif you know how to use root responsibly, then you know how to unlock it.05:17
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Dr_Willisits not really disabled . just direct logging to root is siaabled05:17
Dr_Willisquiet,  yea - i think of it as an integellience test. :P05:17
quietheh... indeed.05:17
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eyequeuei can't see much that sudo -i can't handle05:17
Chon_Leewhat's the easiest way to browse for a package via the web05:18
nonymI assume the sudo cd command makes some automatic backup that can be restored "in case.."?05:18
thenetduckquiet ok done doing what you saoid to do05:18
eyequeueChon_Lee, packages.ubuntu.com05:18
Chon_Leety05:18
quietthenetduck: okay, back to my channel. :)05:18
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eyequeueChon_Lee, apt-cache search, on your own machine btw :)05:18
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hydrozenanybody can help me out getting ati drivers to work? i installed ubuntu-fglrx-386... did what they said to do... but then x wont start...05:19
fokusleehow do u get the name of your kernel?05:19
jribfokuslee: uname -r05:19
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jribfokuslee: actually man uname says you want -s, but I think you want -r05:20
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zenofjazzHey there BSDFOX!05:20
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sorush20hi .. I have the same problem as here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204007, my /etc folder is missing completely05:20
zenofjazzstill fighting the GRUB issue from last night.05:20
fokusleejrib this is what i get05:20
fokusleefokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure `uname -r`05:20
fokusleePackage `2.6.17.11-custom' is not installed and no info is available.05:20
sorush20why do you think this happens?05:20
zenofjazzSamuli, did you see the mesgs?05:21
fokusleejrib, any ideaSS?05:21
jribfokuslee: you probably want linux-image-`uname -r`05:21
MadpilotOK, that was slightly creepy - lilo just left IRC for the last time...05:21
fokusleejrib, thx i will try dat05:21
fokusleeur the bset05:21
fokusleebest05:21
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nonymeyequeue, thanks :)05:22
eyequeuenonym, no prob05:22
nonymI don't really know anything about Linux, but I've tried another Linux a little bit05:22
sorush20can I run fsck on a mounted partition?05:22
nonyma knoppix remaster...05:22
nonymI'm keeping that link :)05:23
fokusleejrib, i tried linux-image- and linux-kernel05:23
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fokusleeit still complaints that pacakge not installed05:23
nonymwhy are help files on https btw ?05:24
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jribfokuslee: can I see how you wrote it?05:24
eyequeuenonym, the wiki sends passwords05:24
fokusleeok i will paste in pastebin05:24
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eyequeuenonym, hence https05:24
fokusleejrib brb05:24
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nonymok05:24
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jwickardI need a package that can monitor http/smtp servers and notify me if they go down.  I've seen nagios before and that's currently what I'm planning on installing.  I just thought I'd ask and see if anyone had any suggestions of different software that they like better.05:25
zenofjazz***OFF reading about GRUB05:25
b0ysc0utE: Unable to lock the list directory05:25
nonymsecure wiki :)05:25
b0ysc0utanybody can help me?05:25
sorush20what does this memo mean?05:25
Damn_Yankeefokuslee: as root-user updatedb then locate-i linux-2.6.17.1105:25
zenofjazzNagios is nice.. There's BigBrother, and a few more.05:25
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sorush20(notice) (N) 1   imMute             1 week 5 days (15h 44m 10s) ago05:25
eyequeueDamn_Yankee, sudo updatedb05:26
keeganHello Everyone, I recently installed XFCE 4.4RC1 onto my Xubuntu.  I tried installing a theme from xfce-look and I put it in the folder with all the other themes, but it never loads up in the look and feel settings?  Anyone know the cause of this?05:26
eyequeueDamn_Yankee, sudo locate ...05:26
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fokusleeDamn_Yankee,  ok i did those two things now what?05:26
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eyequeue!rootsudo > Damn_Yankee05:27
Damn_Yankeefokusleewhat's it say?05:27
nonymthanks everyone for help, especially Samuli^ and ^^Bran^^ for showing me this channel :)05:27
eyequeueDamn_Yankee, i mentally blurred your line with the previous, thought you were asking what that meant, sorry05:27
fokusleeDamn_yankee it just printed a whole bunch of files05:27
fokusleei mean like the location of whole bunch of stuff05:28
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Chon_Leecompiling programs gets me sooo frustrated05:28
Damn_Yankeeeyequeue: yes,thats the default way,i use su&root cause its more secure than sudo,just my own pref.;and n.p.:)05:28
dxyanyone got this error  nmap, nexthost: failed to determine route05:28
zenofjazzSamuli, still no ideas, here, on GRuB05:29
Samuli^I hear a lot of people complaining about the use of sudo and no root-account in ubuntu. I wonder why.05:29
eyequeueSamuli^, lol05:29
Chon_Leeif you want root just do sudo -s05:29
eyequeueSamuli^, agreed05:29
FlannelSamuli^: because they come from places that have root, and don't take the time to understand the differences before complaining05:29
Chon_Leeit'll lock you in sudo05:29
Dasnipa] [Samuli^, its not much to complain about you can add it later05:29
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Samuli^Dasnipa] [, the thing is, I feel, that there's no need for separate root account. You can just use your OS as a normal user and become super-user when needed.05:30
Dasnipa] [right. enabling root doesnt take away the functionality of sudo though.05:30
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Damn_YankeeFlannel: i wasn't complaining,simply stating my personal preference,and i totally understand05:31
Chon_Leeis there a catch all package that will install most common tools for compiling programs?05:31
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MadpilotChon_Lee, build-essential05:31
cpk1!gcc05:31
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:31
Samuli^I think it's a lot better default than having a separate root and the need to log-out/log-in to do root-stuff.05:31
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FlannelDamn_Yankee: I wasn't saying you were.  But, Samuli^ mentioned that most people complain about sudo/no root, which they do.05:31
Damn_Yankeeyes,agreed05:32
Damn_Yankeeactually i use both:)05:32
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Samuli^zenofjazz, I really don't know :)05:32
zenofjazznods.05:33
zenofjazzI never have the EASY problems.05:33
Samuli^zenofjazz, maybe it's just a bug in the motherboard bios, if there's chance to update it, try that first.05:33
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zenofjazzI'm gonna try to partition sda so that sda1 is a small boot partition, then sda2 is / and sda something else is swap05:34
zenofjazzsee if that will help05:34
b0ysc0utim having problems with my source list..keep gettin this msg:05:34
Samuli^zenofjazz, you're using the motherboard raid controller right?05:34
sorush20can I run fsck on a mounted partition?05:34
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b0ysc0utThe list of sources could not be read.05:34
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Damn_YankeeChon_Lee: build-essential is the package i believe05:35
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Chon_Leehmm... keeps complaining about missing zlib but I have installed zlib and zlibc along with others05:35
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Samuli^Chon_Lee, while compiling?05:36
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Dr_Willisbe sure you install the -dev packages as well.05:36
Samuli^what I was about to say.05:37
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zenofjazzSamuli, nope.  SATA Card has RAID0/1, but I'm doing it in software.05:37
Damn_YankeeChon_Lee: try apt-get -f install05:37
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Samuli^zenofjazz, motherboard sata-controllers with raid are always software.05:38
Chon_Leeit's not a package Damn_Yankee05:38
Damn_Yankeehmmm05:38
Dasnipa] [rofl05:38
zenofjazzok. SATA isn't on the motherboard. it's a separate controller card.05:38
zenofjazzmotherboard is ALL NATIVE SCSI05:38
jrib!compile > Chon_Lee05:38
Dasnipa] [if you read that without realizing ' Damn_Yankee ' is a nick that is really funny05:38
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Damn_YankeeChon_Lee:  maybe they are not in your path statement,its in /etc/environment(path i mean )05:39
jribChon_Lee: (you need the corresponding -dev packages probably)05:39
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bmcfarlihey guys, for some reason i have no permission to do anything on my computer. Any suggestions?05:39
cpk1ask it nicely?05:39
Dasnipa] [sudo.05:39
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Damn_Yankeebmcfarli: or edit /etc/groups05:40
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joaquinzhi!05:40
Samuli^bmcfarli, you don't mean the ntfs-partition you just mounted?05:40
joaquinzdoes anybody know if is it possible tu run 3d acceleration with ati 9600xt using radeon open source drivers?05:40
Caplain_wow its dead tonight05:41
bmcfarlilol nope, now I cant rename drives, I cant even change dates on my date book05:41
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joaquinz?05:41
Dasnipa] [bmcfarli, you talking ntfs partition?05:41
bmcfarlinope i am talking programs changing drive names on the places menu that type of stuff05:41
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Samuli^bmcfarli, neither can I :)05:42
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bmcfarliSo it isnt possible? it has to be possible, this is linux....05:43
Dasnipa] [of course its possible in some manner05:43
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jribsomehow? yes05:44
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orangeyhey all!05:44
orangeyis there a list somewhere of all the security updates to dapper?05:45
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bmcfarliyeah i would rather just give me all the permission there is, and if i fubar my computer that my problem05:45
Dr_WillisI was thinking i sleected the drives and did properties. and renamed them some how...05:45
rkroetchHi, I am considering switching to another distro from slackware. Has anyone from slack switched to Ubuntu, any general perceptions?05:45
inglorit's good05:45
orangeyrkroetch: what's your level of expertise?05:45
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inglorubuntu is a good distro, very simple, does everything right,05:46
rkroetchorangey, I compiled my own GCC Glibc and working on an X-Server05:46
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inglorubuntu is great if you actually need a computer to work with and not mess with05:46
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rkroetchI would rather manually edit a text file than use a GUI... But having a GUI available is not a bad deal.05:46
inglorif you want something to mess with, ubuntu isn't the best, but if you want an actual work computer, ubuntu is ideal05:46
rkroetch(for configuration)05:46
orangeyrkroetch: That doesn't tell me much personally..05:46
theTruth_can someone pls help me! I think I have a trojan!  I ran chkrootkit and it reported the following: Checking `lkm'... You have     1 process hidden for readdir command05:47
theTruth_You have     1 process hidden for ps command05:47
theTruth_chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed05:47
orangeyrkroetch: have you tried gentoo?05:47
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Samuli^bmcfarli, you'd probably do that in no-time though, and you don't want that not for a simple renaming.05:47
orangeyrkroetch: it sounds like you want a computer to tinker with as much as use.05:47
inglorin that case, ubuntu would probably not be ideal for you (rkroetch)05:47
rkroetchorangey, I don't like how emerge encourages you to NOT compile your own problems05:47
sky123orlock: are the filetypes in the Maildir on SME unique?? or can one migrate to those assuming you have maildirs on another server..05:47
EnsignRedshirtorangey: Security updates: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn05:47
inglorit's a great distro for working, but you probably want something that needs more messing05:47
orangeyrkroetch: the way I think of it is that Ubuntu is a binary gentoo. : )05:47
bmcfarliSamuli^, well I could really use it at this point. then I would change back.05:48
orangeythe packages are always up to date..05:48
theTruth_anyone help me get rid off a trojan horse?05:48
inglorhave you tried straightforward debian?05:48
sorush20how do I burn an iso image in ubuntu?05:48
orangeyyou can always get new repositories..05:48
Dasnipa] [theTruth_, a trojan? on linux?05:48
inglortheTruth_, just delete it :P?05:48
rkroetchI also want cutting-edge. I would love to be able to get XGL working etc with work.05:48
inglorDasnipa, there are plenty of trojans for linux05:48
orangeyit's slightly less stable that gentoo if you go to unstable, but not by tooo much.05:48
vikorangey: right click on it, then "burn to disc"05:48
Dasnipa] [i know that05:48
inglorrkroetch, xgl IS amazing05:48
viksorush20: right click on it, then "burn to disc"05:48
orangeyvic: thank you. I think you mean that to sorush2005:48
rkroetchIf you've ever tried to compile Xorg 7.0 from scratch to get 3d-Accell for it... You'll hate doing it05:49
vikd'oh05:49
rkroetchI promise05:49
theTruth_Dasnipa] [: I ran chkrootkit and it reported the following: Checking `lkm'... You have 1 process hidden for readdir command. You have 1 process hidden for ps command Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed.05:49
theTruth_inglor: deltete what?05:49
inglorrkroetch, have you considered SuSe for XGL usage? Again, ubuntu is more of a work-ready distro, it's great and simple, one app for one task mostly, it's perfect05:49
orangeyrkroetch: it really sounds as though you would be happiest getting things going with gentoo if you can resolve your issues there.05:49
vikorangey: we can all do with a reminder now and again :)05:49
inglorthe trojan... google it and removal instructions05:49
Samuli^bmcfarli, if it's a windows partition I don't know if you can change the name "volume" for that, but you could always mount it somewhere else with mount --bind command.05:49
orangeyvik: hahahah! thanks : )05:49
Samuli^if that is what you wan.05:49
rkroetchorangey, My problem with gentoo is when python breaks. Your system is trash :)05:49
Samuli^+t05:49
ingloranyone know how to make frozen bubble and xgl work together :P?05:50
bmcfarliWell the name now is New Volume05:50
orangeyrkroetch: it has its problems no doubt..05:50
orangeyrkroetch: but nothing will give the power you seem to want.05:50
rkroetchSo the general concensus is Ubuntu doesn't let the user do much as far as under-the-hood work?05:50
orangeyrkroetch: unstable debian may come close.05:50
cafuegoinglor: No. You can't. Reall.05:50
inglorno workaround?05:50
orangeyrkroetch: you can.. but not at the compile flag level05:50
Samuli^bmcfarli, go to windows, re-format that drive, change it's name and enjoy the freedom :)05:50
zenofjazzBah. you can do as much under the hood as you want.. just can't guarantee your machine will stay stable.05:50
inglorrkroetch, it lets the user do whatever he/she want, but it's not built for that05:50
orangeyok, next question.. how do I revert packages again?05:50
orangeyto older versions?05:50
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rkroetchYeah, Perhaps I'll check out openSuSe or the like...05:51
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inglorno workarounds for frozen-bubble and XGL together?05:51
Samuli^bmcfarli, or if you don't like what reads in your desktop delete the symlink and create a new one with name you like.05:51
inglorrkroetch, openSuse seems to be optimal for you05:51
rkroetchI reallly love slack, but don't like how non-cutting-edge it is05:51
cafuegoinglor: none that I know of.05:51
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inglorubuntu is more of a work distro, the average joe can use it05:51
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theTruth_anyone help me?  I ran chkrootkit and it says Possible LKM Trojan installed!  You have 1 process hidden for readdir command. You have 1 process hidden for ps command!  Anyone way to clean my system?05:52
inglorwhen I installed it on my girlfriend's laptop, she didn't even notice she is not using windows anymore05:52
inglortheTruth, try asking on the forums05:52
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theTruth_inglor: what forums?05:52
inglorubuntuforums05:52
inglor!forums05:52
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.05:52
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inglorhey, how do I stop xgl during runtime?05:52
inglorcompiz btw05:52
inglorin order to do something else with opengl05:53
theTruth_this happened after I upgraded kernel today05:53
inglorlike play frozen bubble05:53
rkroetchThank you all for your help, I might move over to an OpenSuSe IRC and talk to those folks05:53
theTruth_inglor: i updated kernel today05:53
cafuegoinglor: You could run a normal Xorg on tty8.05:53
cafuegoOr not run a broken X on tty7 ;-)05:53
inglorcafuego, it's a laptop, I don't want to waste battery life05:53
cafuegoinglor: hahaha05:53
inglorhonestly :P05:53
cafuegoThen disable Xgl :-P05:53
inglorhow :P?05:54
cafuegoRun Xorg05:54
inglorwindows gives me 3.5 hours of battely, ubuntu gives me 5 and a half and it's funner05:54
inglorI need to disable xgl from within the session05:54
inglorwithout having to log in/out05:54
bmcfarliSamuli^, but if i right click it, I can see where it says rename...so why cant i just rename it?05:54
inglora command that reverts compiz-start05:54
Dasnipa] [the word 'funner' makes me cry05:54
Damn_Yankeethe_Truth: install rkhunter its much much better05:54
theTruth_cafuego: any ideas?05:54
theTruth_Damn_Yankee: rkhunter doesnt report a problem05:55
inglorbmcfarli:, sure you have permission?05:55
theTruth_Damn_Yankee: but chkrootkit does05:55
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EnsignRedshirtDasnipa] [: Are you feeling saddier because of that word?05:55
cafuegotheTruth_: Interpret the word "Possible".05:55
bmcfarlithats it, no. how do i set that?05:55
Damn_Yankeewell,its better imoo than chkrootkit,i'd say its a false-positive,but ?05:55
theTruth_cafuego: I updated kernel today, and now chkrootkit reports..  Possible LKM Trojan installed!  You have 1 process hidden for readdir command. You have 1 process hidden for ps command!   any ideas?05:56
jbroome0wned05:56
theTruth_Damn_Yankee: did you upgrade kernel?>05:56
Samuli^bmcfarli, probably because it's not one of the shortcuts you have placed but another program, or 'hard-coded' in nautilus.05:56
theTruth_Damn_Yankee: apt-get upgrade gives me a new kernel!  and i updated it today05:56
theTruth_Damn_Yankee: can you run chkrootkit?05:56
Damn_Yankeei have yes,and i get no rootkits,but if you changed kernel modules,it might alarm05:57
Samuli^bmcfarli, for better file manager, try thunar or konqueror :)05:57
Samuli^thtunar is very similar to nautilus, only better.05:57
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DanaGHow can I get Make to use colorgcc?05:57
sessubotu: cpu frequency05:58
ubotucpu: a console based LDAP user management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-8 (dapper), package size 137 kB, installed size 432 kB05:58
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sessubotu frequency05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about frequency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
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UKMattdoes anyone in here have any experience with Xubuntu, i had some questions about it05:58
inglorask away05:58
sorush20how do I  blank a cdrw in ubuntu?05:59
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DaveyJanyone know how to bridge an ethernet and firewire connection? i tried brctl and it wont let me add eth1 (firewire) :(05:59
theTruth_has anyone here upgraded to latest kernel?05:59
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UKMattmy friend has a 700mhz, 52MB ram (how?), and about 5GB HD, and i wanted to put Xubuntu on, wanted to know how it would run on that05:59
bimberisess: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' is a wild guess at what you're after :)05:59
DanaG700mhz what?  Celeron?  P3?  Athlon?  Duron?06:00
cafuegotheTruth_: Yah: Checking `lkm'... chkproc: nothing detected06:00
UKMattCeleron06:00
sessanyone know of any CPU throttling softwaer for gnome?  My amd64 is killing my battery in just over 2 hours even when Im not doing anything06:00
sky123is anyone good with using sed or grep here??06:00
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sky123I need to change a part of a file name06:00
cafuegoUKMatt: 64Mb with 12Mb shared for video.06:00
DanaGSet up powernowd and cpufrequtils.06:00
sessbimberi: Im really looking for a way to automatically slow down and speed up my cpu based on useage scale06:00
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sky123with using unix commands06:00
inglorsess, joining the question, longer battery life would be nice although I'm getting much better usage than with windows06:00
sky123here is the change --06:00
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bimberisess: ah, kk06:00
cafuegosess: powernowd06:00
sky123 hi guys hope you can help me with a simple linux script or line command to change a part of file name to something else.. for example i want to change - 1158572064.V309I2800008f.localhost.localdomain:2,S   1158572064.V309I2800008f.monet:2,S  can someone help out??06:01
DanaGAdd a "CPU scaling monitor" to the panel.06:01
UKMattcafuego, ooh didn't know that06:01
eyequeuesky123, this may seem odd, but you're not afraid of perl are you?06:01
eyequeuerename (1)           - renames multiple files06:01
eyequeuerename (3posix)      - rename a file06:01
eyequeuerename (2)           - change the name or location of a file06:01
eyequeueoops06:01
cafuegoUKMatt: just guessing :-)06:01
DanaGAlso, if you want to be able to change the governor, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets06:01
eyequeuesky123, that is written by larry wall, in perl, heh06:01
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sesscafuego: thanks06:01
UKMattAny idea how Xfce would handle on that computer?06:01
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bmcfarlialso I cant add dates to my calendar06:01
bmcfarlisays read only06:02
EnsignRedshirtDanaG: Just a guess: define CC=colorgcc, and be sure your Makefile uses $(CC) to compile?06:02
sessinglor: I can't tell if I am or not, namely when I was using it under windows, I really never did anything for extremely long periods of time before I would let it suspend06:02
sessalso suspend seems to crash my laptop, but hibernate works well06:02
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DanaGWhere would I define that?06:02
sesshow can I attempt to fix suspend functionality?06:02
sky123eyequeue - hmmm..okay... id basically just like to change a part of the file name which reoccurs in a directory with multiple files in it....what is the command/ or perl script??06:02
eyequeuesky123, rename06:02
UKMattalright well, guess kno one knows, but on to my problem, I've installed flash on Ubuntu gnome about 3 different ways, and I cant get it to work06:03
sorush20what file system is more crash resistent?06:03
theTruth_does anyone here know how I can clean Dapper from having LKM Trojan?06:03
EnsignRedshirtDanaG: On the command line should work, e.g: make CC=colorgcc  <other make options...>06:03
efelton__sorush20: try ext3, reiserfs, or JFS06:03
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sky123eyequeue: so it would be like rename *.*.localhost.domain:* to  *.*.monet:* ? ie...how do i change it for multiple files??06:04
beeberofHey guys, on K7 i386 ubuntu, how will I achieve playback of .flv video file??06:04
eyequeuesorush20, what you want is a "journalling" fs, and what efelton__ are exactly that :)06:04
beeberofsorry to bother :)06:04
UKMattany help installing Flash?06:04
DanaGI'd like colorgcc to be used by default.06:05
sorush20efelton__: which is better ?06:05
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sorush20efelton__: jfs?06:05
eyequeuesky123, it's been a while since i read tha man page, but it had so many nifty things i'd never done in sed, is what i was thinking ... it also seemed intuitive, but i'd hate to misadvise ou this late at night06:05
efelton__jfs is the IBM contributed Journelling File System.06:05
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eyequeues/ are/ said are/06:06
sorush20efelton__: so it would best, because I'm using ide hdd and my boot partiton or root partition just crashed and I lost /etc compeletely now reformating it and reinstalling the files..06:06
EnsignRedshirtDanaG: I think you'll need symlinks, but there is probably no point in my trying to guess exactly how it should work.  This link might help: http://csgsa.cs.clemson.edu/seminar/tools06/docbook/html/ch11s05.html06:06
Damn_Yankeethe_Truth:  try this    http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~rakerman/trojan-port-table.html06:07
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theTruth_Damn_Yankee: ok cheers06:07
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eyequeuesorush20, if starting over, decide if you want to make a separate /home, so you can keep it when edgy comes out in late october :)06:07
beeberofHey guys, on K7 i386 ubuntu, how will I achieve playback of .flv video file??06:07
beeberofsorry to bother :)06:07
efelton__would be good.. journalled file systems keep a transaction log, of everything that was happening to the drive.. (the Journal - think accounting journals)06:08
efelton__and it can figure out which transactions completed, and roll back any that didn't.06:08
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efelton__in the event of a lockup or crash.06:08
theTruth_Damn_Yankee: LKM trojan dolesnt appear on that website06:08
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eyequeueyeah, someone trips on the power cord, you'll be impressed how much nicer it is from ext2 days06:08
surface-i have a pages shows all command by example, http://www.linuxbyexample.co.nr06:08
bl4cktonehey all new linux user here06:09
Capt_Blood_Buckeyarr who be requirin some of my assistings06:09
Capt_Blood_Buckeyarr06:09
sorush20eyequeue: are you saying edgy dosen't support jfs? I already have /home on a diff partition..06:09
eyequeuespeaking of rebooting, i hope everyone has a short uptime!06:09
sessI read the manpage on powernowd and set my scaling method to 3, so how do I test it?06:09
eyequeuesorush20, no, though there are some kernel changes in edgy, it definitely supports all the usual linux fs's :)06:09
bl4cktoneI've installed ubuntu 5.04 and am racking my brains about how to update to the new 606:10
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sorush20eyequeue: so jfs it is then..06:10
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eyequeuesorush20, i only meant if you hadn't yet created a /home06:10
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sorush20eyequeue: I have created a home06:10
JaZy84i have a question how can i install a *.bin06:10
DanaGaah, that seems to work.06:10
DanaGThanks.06:10
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anmarHey guys. doing 'apt-get install git' for example, dpkg says that all my packages (lists them one by one) are not longer needed and can be remove with 'dpkg autoremove'. Where the heck did that come from? any idea how to get rid of it.06:11
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Capt_Blood_Buckeanmar: thar be from the new and improved apt-get06:11
Capt_Blood_Buckeanmar: ya can ignar it06:12
bl4cktoneI'm confused if I should be using apt-get to download the new version of ubuntu06:12
Capt_Blood_Buckeyarr06:12
anmarCaplain_, sweet... :)06:12
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EnsignRedshirtJaZy84: Usually you cd to the directory containing the .bin, and run it, e.g.:06:12
bl4cktonepass the grog my matties!06:12
fokusleewhat there is a new version of ubuntu?06:12
EnsignRedshirtJaZy84: cd directory_where_bin_is06:12
EnsignRedshirtJaZy84: ./file.bin06:12
Capt_Blood_Buckebl4cktone: arr tis not recommended yet06:12
Capt_Blood_Buckebl4cktone: arr teh grog06:13
bl4cktone6.0606:13
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EnsignRedshirtJaZy84: But the standard answer is *really*:  What are you trying to install?06:13
eyequeuefokuslee, current is 6.06.1, development is edgy06:13
sessanyone actually used powernowd??06:13
sessubotu: powernowd06:13
ubotupowernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB06:13
JaZy84well i'm trying to install coldfusion mx 7.0206:13
fokusleeeyequeue thx06:13
Capt_Blood_Buckebl4cktone: arr that be the current version and you can upgrade from 5.10 using apt06:13
JaZy84enabl06:13
sorush20I'm in live mode what is my hdc?06:13
JaZy84EnsignRedshirt06:13
Capt_Blood_Bucke!upgrade > bl4cktone06:13
JaZy84thanks i think i can handle that06:13
Capt_Blood_Buckearr where be me matey ubotu??06:14
Capt_Blood_Bucke!upgrade06:14
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:14
sesseven though Im running powernowd, my cpu useage according to top is 0.3% with 99.7% idle.  Why is my cpu frequency still at 1500mhz, (down from 1800mhz at least)06:14
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Capt_Blood_Buckebl4cktone: ^^06:14
EnsignRedshirtJaZy84: Cool, good luck!06:14
sessit should have dropped to 533 (if this is using the same frequency steps as windows)06:15
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EnsignRedshirtJaZy84: You might have to make the file executable first: chmod u+x file.bin06:15
JaZy84ty06:15
sorush20i'm in gnome and I hate it.. I have no choice and its a long story .. I need to blank a cd how do I do it please?06:15
JaZy84cool thanks for the heads up06:15
Capt_Blood_Buckesorush20: yarr use teh gnomebakerrrrrrrr06:16
Capt_Blood_Bucke'sudo apt-get install gnomebaker'06:16
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zenofjazzthere, back in my own skin06:16
fokusleei found this guy on ebay selling ubuntu live cd06:16
JaZy84lol06:16
fokusleei just think its jacked up06:17
JaZy84how much did he want for it06:17
fokusleelike 5 bucks06:17
anmarwho is the best guy to talk to about liveCD customization?06:17
JaZy84hah, that bastard06:17
fokusleehis been selling it for a while now power seller06:17
fokusleelol06:17
fokusleei no06:17
fokusleepoor bastards for buying it06:17
JaZy84oh well06:17
JaZy84indeed06:17
zenofjazzNothing wrong with that...06:17
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inglornothing wrong with selling an ubuntu live cd if it has a nice cover and stuff and some extra06:18
zenofjazzyou can sell FLOSS software.. just have to be able to provide the source.06:18
fokusleeur making money off a free cd which u can get for free06:18
inglormeh, I can't justify that :P06:18
inglorunless he is doing it at production cost06:18
naurahow would I change users (via sudo, say) non-interactively?06:18
EnsignRedshirtanmar: I don't know who the best person or (or even any person, for that matter), but you might be interested in this: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/06:18
inglorsu username06:18
zenofjazzyes. and it's fully in line with FSF principals.06:18
ingloryep, it is, it's just not too nice :P06:18
AbortDanyone know how i can make rythm jukebox my default program?06:18
Capt_Blood_Buckeanmarrrr what be you wantin from your live cdssss06:18
anmarEnsignRedshirt, there is not ubuntu live CD team ?06:18
zenofjazzfive bucks sounds about right, for cost of media, his time to burn them, etc.06:18
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theTruth_has anyone removed LKM Trojan before?06:19
fokusleezenofjazz i guess06:19
inglorzenofjazz, doubtly, the cost of media, time, and such is about 50 cents06:19
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inglorunless it includes shipping, which I doubt, it's not a very fair trade06:19
naurathat's not non-interactivem though06:19
EnsignRedshirtanmar: I'm sure there is, but I don't know who.  That was just a "FYI" link.  Feel free to ignore it. :)06:19
naurasomething like su username -p password06:20
anmarEnsignRedshirt, it looks very promising.06:20
ingloryou can just su username06:20
inglorand enter the password when asked06:20
seshomaruhi , i installed ubuntu on my laptop and everything went fine but when i try to connect it to the internet I get 'could not find' server' .06:20
anmarEnsignRedshirt, thanks... I will definitely look into it06:20
seshomaru(im using another PC to talk now)06:20
naurabut i need it to be non-interactive. like, doable via script.06:20
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zenofjazzto someone who can't download download it (dial-up) it's a decent price.06:21
inglorseshomaru, what sort of connection?06:21
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seshomaruinglor LAN06:22
inglorzenofjazz, not really :P06:22
inglorwait, so you just plugged the cable in?06:22
ingloris the interface itself up?06:22
zenofjazzinglor, you're welcome to your opinion...06:22
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inglorseshomaru, answer me06:22
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Damn_Yankeethe_Truth:       http://www.data-recovery-reviews.com/howto-defeat-a-rootkit.htm06:23
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sorush20due to complexities I have had to use nerolinux..06:23
seshomaruinglor, sorry LAN06:23
inglordoes the lan DHCP?06:24
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hou5tonMy video isn't working properly on some sites .... for example, on this site, only the sound works . not the actual video??   http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/06:24
hou5tonany ideas?06:25
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inglorcodecs?06:25
anmarGuys.. is there a package that I can get that will get all the stuff I need to compile C code, like automake, make, gcc, aclocal, autoconf...etc?06:25
EnsignRedshirtanmar: build-essential06:26
seshomaruinglor , good question - i dont know ,it;s my work place , i think it should because XPlaptops connect to it no problem...06:26
Capt_Blood_Poninanmar: build-essential me matey06:26
AbortDanyone know how i can make rythm jukebox my default program?06:26
anmarsweet06:26
Capt_Blood_Poninseshomaru: what be your problem arr?06:26
XenguyHi - "6.06 kernel security update issue"?  I did the security update, rebooted, and now X is gone (an Nvidia module problem?).  Can anyone help?06:27
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Capt_Blood_PoninAbortD: default for what prograaaaam06:27
AbortDnevermind sorry06:27
AbortDi apologize06:27
seshomaruCapt_Blood_Ponin, cannot connect to internet at work on an ubuntu laptop06:27
AbortD.mp306:27
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kendalsHow can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?06:28
JoseStefanXenguy, did you upgrade both kernel packages (image/restricted modules) and nvidia-glx ?06:28
Capt_Blood_PoninAbortD: right click on an mp3 file06:28
Capt_Blood_Poningo to properrrrrrties06:29
Capt_Blood_Poninyarr06:29
AbortDgo to properties06:29
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XenguyJoseStefan: I *thought* both were included, but I don't know for sure06:29
AbortDthen there is a tab :)06:29
AbortDi want to be a pirate :|06:29
JoseStefanXenguy, are you using 386 or 686 kernel?06:29
XenguyJoseStefan: looks like 38606:30
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JoseStefanXenguy, to be sure use: uname -r06:30
XenguyJoseStefan: confirmed, 38606:30
Xenguy2.6.15-27-38606:30
JoseStefanXenguy, and to be sure you have both (image/restricted) do: "sudo apt-get install linux-386"06:30
XenguyJoseStefan: K, sec06:31
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UKMattcan someone help me get my flash working?06:31
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XenguyJoseStefan: looks like 'restricted-modules' might be the problem06:31
Born_In_Xixaxwhat's the problem UKMatt06:32
JoseStefanXenguy, it's downloading stuff right?06:32
XenguyJoseStefan: yes, I'm waiting06:32
UKMattborn_in_xixax, i've put it on every way i knwo how and it never works06:32
Born_In_Xixaxhmm06:32
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XenguyJoseStefan: OK, I'm going to try rebooting to X - I predict you have solved the problem, so I thank you in advance :-)06:32
XenguyJoseStefan: if not, I'll be back (no news is good news :-)06:33
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riddicki got xgl working and i am trying to set the images for the cube.  when i use gconf-editor i don't have a lot of plugins loaded like i have seen on some of the help files.  i do have the compiz settings tool off the menu now, but when i set an image for cube it doesn't change.  any ideas?06:33
kendalsHow can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?06:33
DBOriddick, join #ubuntu-xgl please06:34
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Capt_Blood_PoninAbortD: sarrry06:34
JoseStefanXenguy, just be back either way.06:34
Capt_Blood_PoninAbortD: did it worrrrk?06:34
dsatchhi guys, I'm having a simple problem with tar...06:34
XenguyJoseStefan: OK, TTYL06:34
Capt_Blood_Ponindsatch: what be yer problem with taaarrrrrrrr06:34
Born_In_XixaxUKMatt, in Synaptic, enable all the repositories06:34
dsatchI read on the forums, --exclude=/home/test would exclude a directory, but it doesn't06:34
UKMattborn_in_xixax, enable all?06:34
Born_In_Xixaxbe sure and 'Reload'06:34
JoseStefantar can be very sticky, and ruins all your clothes :(06:34
Born_In_Xixaxya06:34
Born_In_Xixaxthen do a search for 'flashplugin-nonfree'06:35
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UKMattborn_in_xixax, what do you mean uncomment them?06:35
dsatchCapt_Blood_Ponin: arrgghh talk like a pirate day it be06:35
Born_In_Xixaxwhat version of Ubuntu are you using?06:35
marcrosofthello, im currently having scrolling problems in firefox or opera... is there a fix for this? can I update my nvidia drivers?06:35
UKMattborn_in_xixax, oh i have that installed already06:35
Capt_Blood_Ponindsatch: arr that it be06:35
UKMattborn_in_xixax, and upgraded06:35
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Born_In_Xixaxah06:36
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UKMattborn_in_xixax, gnome w/ swiftfox06:36
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Born_In_Xixaxit's only compatible with Flash version 706:36
JoseStefanCapt_Blood_Ponin, i didnt savvy ubuntu had a pirate day06:36
Born_In_Xixaxso a lot of sites are using 9 now06:36
UKMattborn_in_xixax, what is06:36
Born_In_Xixaxthe Linux flash player06:36
UKMattborn_in_xixax, and i think i have 7 on, thats the packaged that downloaded06:36
AbortDCapt_Blood_Ponin, it worked06:36
Born_In_Xixaxyes06:36
UKMattborn_in_xixax, oh..06:36
Born_In_Xixaxthat's as good as you can get on Linux06:36
UKMattborn_in_xixax, as in like youtube?06:36
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Born_In_Xixaxriiiight06:37
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Born_In_Xixaxthough i think youtube is ok06:37
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Capt_Blood_Ponindsatch: arr --exclude be for patterns06:37
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Born_In_Xixaxif you use something like Crossover Office, you can get a windows version of your browser running, and install the windows flash plugin into it06:37
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infidelhq06:37
UKMattborn_in_xixax, youtube is telling me i have javascript off or an old version, and javas is on06:37
Born_In_Xixaxk06:37
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Capt_Blood_Ponin              exclude files matching PATTERN06:38
Capt_Blood_Ponin       -X, --exclude-from=FILE06:38
Capt_Blood_Ponin              exclude files matching patterns listed in FILE06:38
XenguyAhhh, X again :-)06:38
Born_In_Xixaxhmm06:38
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Born_In_Xixaxi just went a watched a video offf the front page of youtube06:38
Born_In_Xixaxworked fine :/06:38
UKMattborn_in_xixax, and google vid is saying to dl, it doesnt say anything06:38
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Born_In_Xixaxwhat browser06:39
UKMattborn_in_xixax, front page doesn't work for me06:39
JoseStefantar has many exclude options06:39
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zenofjazzOk.06:39
UKMattborn_in_xixax, swiftfox06:39
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kendalsHow can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?06:39
XenguyThanks again to whoever helped - I'm off to dreamland now :-)06:39
Born_In_Xixaxhave you tried another browser?06:39
Born_In_Xixaxi.e. firefox06:39
Capt_Blood_Ponindsatch: use  --exclude-from=FILE06:39
zenofjazzstill no luck with grub06:39
UKMattborn_in_xixax, not sure how to get to it, when i run firefox Swift opens06:39
JoseStefanXenguy, would that be me?06:39
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dsatchCapt_Blood_Ponin: yeah, doesn't quite do it, it reads patterns out of a file then06:40
Born_In_Xixaxwell, generally you can install the plugin by hand06:40
XenguyJoseStefan: ahh, there you are - it's late and I thought your nick started with 's' :-)06:40
XenguyJoseStefan: thanks again friend06:40
EnsignRedshirtdsatch: What command did you try, and what happened?06:40
Born_In_Xixaxby creating a symlink to the flash .dll in the right plugins folder06:40
JoseStefanXenguy, np06:40
dsatchtar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys06:40
dsatchFrom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508706:40
JoseStefandsatch, i think you need to add wildcards to that06:41
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JoseStefandsatch, as --exlcude takes PATTERN06:41
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EnsignRedshirtJoseStefan: I don't think a wildcoard is necessary---I just tried a simple example.06:42
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dsatchYeah, I saw the man page, had hoped this guy was right though :)06:42
EnsignRedshirtdsatch: Try putting the options *before* /  (shot in the dark)06:42
UKMattborn_in_xixax, i've doen that06:43
EnsignRedshirtdsatch: but after backup.tgz06:43
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Born_In_Xixaxfor example on my system, in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  there are a bunch of plugin .dlls and such06:43
JoseStefanEnsignRedshirt i always put -- options first then - options, and then the rest06:43
dsatchEnsignRedshirt: no luck06:44
dsatchEnsignRedshirt: I'm pretty sure the --exclude option just isn't working that way... maybe they are right with the patterns...06:44
kendalsHow can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?06:44
Born_In_Xixaxfind 'libflashplayer.so' and copy it into the 'plugins' folder, and restart the browser06:44
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UKMattborn_in_xixax, its there, but i bet the problem is it isnt in some swiftfox folder somewhere i can't find06:45
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dsatchwait... I rearranged it and it worked I think...06:46
JoseStefandsatch: i always put -- options first then - options, and then the rest06:46
Born_In_Xixaxit's there in your Firefox folder?  or the analagous Swiftfox folder..?06:46
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UKMattborn_in_xixax, its in the firefox folder, i can't find a single swiftfox folder, which is why i think it needs somethin in it and thats why06:47
Born_In_Xixaxmy bet is that the Synaptic installer doesn't recognize Swiftfox as a possible target, and doesn't automatically place the file for you06:47
dsatchit worked when I did tar cvpzf <filetosave> --exclude <dirtoignore> <roottosave>06:47
JoseStefandsatch: and always had the dash at least to the 1st letter of the group06:47
JoseStefandsatch: s/had/add06:47
EnsignRedshirtdsatch: Cool.06:47
Born_In_Xixaxbah, just use Opera ;)06:47
dsatchthanks guys06:48
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Born_In_Xixaxwell, you've exhausted my pitiful knowledge06:48
Born_In_Xixaxgood luck06:48
UKMattfixed it!06:48
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UKMattfyi, in case you hear aboud it, it had to be saved into /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox/plugins06:48
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UKMatti could never find it b/c... opt?06:49
Born_In_Xixaxah, super06:49
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UKMattborn_in_xixax, k, ty though06:49
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CppIsWeirdcould anyone begin to instruct me on how one would begin to make a ubuntu that would function encryption-wise in this way: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/06:50
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DaveyJi cant figure this out!06:53
DaveyJanyone know how to bridge an ethernet and firewire connection? i tried brctl and it wont let me add eth1 (firewire) :(06:53
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Crescendo_Is submitting a password via vncserver safe?06:54
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Crescendo_Could I use my strong password without it being sniffed easily?06:54
tar_Apache1 and PHP4 serve my index.php fine if I request /index.php in my URL, but if I request / alone, Apache just sends the source.06:54
Crescendo_IE, is it encypted.06:54
cafuegocrescendo; if you tunnel it over ssh, yes.06:54
cafuegocrescendo: Normally, I believe not.,06:54
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bl4cktoneHey guys I'm update from 5.04 and am on step 2 of the upgrading with apt-get on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgradeNotes I can't seem to save the text it had me copy into the sources.list file it says "Could not save the file "home/bl4cktone/'/etc/apt/sources.list"  am I doing something wrong?06:55
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cwilluMy mouse just started jumping to the middle of the window when a window takes focus, anyone know why that could be?06:56
Bonez_56hi all, i apt-get upgraded this morning and now am running kernel 2.6.15-27-68606:56
Damn_Yankeebl4cktone: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:56
EnsignRedshirtbl4cktone: Did you use sudo to edit the file?06:56
bl4cktoneoh god...06:56
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bl4cktonenever mind...06:56
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EnsignRedshirtbl4cktone: Not god, just Damn_Yankee06:56
bl4cktonethanks guys :)06:56
Born_In_XixaxUbuntu saved you from yourself, lol06:57
DaveyJ(11:37:59 PM) Davey J: what were you thinking aboutttttt06:57
DaveyJ(11:38:13 PM) Liz Samis: your sexy ass06:57
DaveyJ(11:38:16 PM) Davey J: LOLOL06:57
DaveyJSOI:GJKLSDCMSMKECIJ(SWER(GIJk06:57
DaveyJi'm sorry06:57
DaveyJthat was totally the wrong channel06:57
DBObingo06:57
DBOdont let it happen again =)06:57
Bonez_56hi all, i apt-get upgraded this morning and now am running kernel 2.6.15-27-686, and when I try to install VMWare server, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2394706:57
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cwillumouse jumping to the center of the window rather than where I left it;  anybody help?06:58
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Bonez_56is there a bug in the new kernel release today?06:58
Born_In_XixaxBonez, you need to download the linux-headers for your version of kernel06:58
Born_In_Xixaxi think it's easiest to just 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-686'06:58
Born_In_Xixaxwhich should keep you updated with matching headers from now on06:59
Born_In_Xixaxthen re-run the vmware install06:59
Bonez_56Born_In_Xixax: ahh silly me. thanks for that :)06:59
starpausei'm still trying to make mocp 2.4 run under 6.06, compiles without a hiccup but same error when i run it06:59
Bonez_56Born_In_Xixax: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` worked a treat06:59
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kedarhey, I have a problem.07:00
Born_In_Xixaxi think if you use 'linux-headers-686' that's a meta-package, and will update for you when the next kernel comes out and so forth07:00
kedarmy wireless connection, up until now, has been working perfectly07:00
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Born_In_Xixaxso you don't have to manually get the latest exact kernel header version each time07:00
kedarbut just this morning it stopped working07:00
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cwillupardon a moment of frustration07:00
Bonez_56Born_In_Xixax: yes I just did that too. thanks!07:00
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CharonXWould anyone know why adobe does not work properly as a plugin in firefox ? I have installed firefox acroread acroread-plugins and mozilla-acroread but pdf's will not open in firefox. But adobe reader works fine ???07:01
kedarin the wireless settings, there are no network names to select07:01
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kedarit's an empty menu07:01
Dr_WillisI always HATE it when pdfs open in the browser. :)07:01
kedaris anyone listening :-(07:01
CharonXI hate it when the open outside the browser :P07:01
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cpk1kedar: just tell it the network to use07:02
EnsignRedshirtSigh... so much hate...07:02
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kedaryeah, that's what I'm trying to say.07:02
cpk1kedar: also you could check to make sure it is picking up networks by doing iwlist scan07:02
cwilluEnsignRedshirt: whats the problem?07:02
bl4cktonehah 25mins to install 5.10 pretty cool it's download fast07:02
kedarhm it says07:02
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EnsignRedshirtcwillu: Just read back a few lines.07:02
kedareth1 - no scan results07:03
kedarbut I've been using eth1 all the time07:03
kedarjust today it stopped working?07:03
The_KnowledgeHey I am new to ubuntu  world. I am downloading it07:03
The_KnowledgeTill then I want to know  everything about it07:03
EnsignRedshirtcwillu: (It was not really a serious comment. :) )07:03
Dr_WillisThe_Knowledge,  be sure to burn the iso file to cd with a decent program like 'burn at once' or similer under windows.07:03
cwilluah07:03
kedaris it a problem with my wireless card?07:03
kedaror something else, perhaps?07:04
bl4cktoneso when I used gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and it didn't work why did taking out the gk make it work?07:04
The_KnowledgeDr willis  can you tell me good software for burning Iso to cd07:04
Dr_WillisThe_Knowledge,  dont just use windows burning and make a cd with a .iso file on it as a single huge file. :) seen too many people do that.07:04
kedarcpk1?07:04
Samuli^kedar, eth1 isn't a wireless driver.07:04
Dr_WillisThe_Knowledge,  i just told you the name of one. :   'burn at once'07:04
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Born_In_Xixaxbl4cktone, dunno07:04
kedar?07:04
Samuli^kedar, wireless are wlan'n'07:04
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The_Knowledgethanks07:04
JNeverMindmy install of ubuntu-server appeared to go fine. but wont boot after reboot.  theres 1 hd with swap and / is active07:04
The_KnowledgeDr willis07:05
cwillugrrr;  why is it doing this;  I'm gonna break something; mouse is centering on the main window of an application whenever that application gains focus, which means my pointer is jumping all over the screen;  :(07:05
JNeverMindcan swap be the first partition  on a disk ?07:05
The_KnowledgeAnylink for it07:05
Born_In_Xixaxgksudo is just the graphical way of getting you password, vs giving it in the Terminal07:05
kedarwait, can you explain I'm sorry07:05
Crescendo_Is submitting a password via vncserver safe? (Encrypted)07:05
Dr_WillisThe_Knowledge,  linux tip #1 - learn to learn. :P google.com is your friend.07:05
cwilluCrescendo no07:05
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bl4cktoneI've heard  vnc had a problem with passwords07:05
bl4cktonebut I'm dumb07:05
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kedarthe interface name for my wireless connection is eth107:06
marcrosoftshould glxinfo | grep direct output yes?07:06
bl4cktonejust skim www.digg.com alot07:06
The_KnowledgeDr_willis  I have heared that its user  friendly so can I  Access my drivers on it as I have lots of  data on my drive07:06
kedarwhy is eth1 not working?07:06
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marcrosofti have the latest nvidia drivers installed with the envy script and xgl /compiz and i am getting no direct rendering07:06
tar_Crescendo_: It's not encrypted unless you tunnel it through something like SSH.07:06
parisiHmm.07:06
Dr_WillisThe_Knowledge,  the term 'user friendly' means very little these days.. you shoudl be able ti access most anything from it.. however NTFS drives should be accesed in READ only mode. for safty07:07
Crescendo_Thanks, tar_ .07:07
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cafuegomarcrosoft: yeah, Xgl is not what ou'd call stable (or useful). if you need 3d, use Xorg.07:07
ParisiCompiz, yummi07:07
kedar:-(07:07
rajis there is any way to recover the data from linux by mistake i put rm07:07
marcrosoftaww07:07
kedarok, my wireless connection doesn't work....07:07
Crescendo_Compiz is hawt.07:07
marcrosoftcafuego, so when running xgl it disables some 3d acceleration?07:07
kedarthe interface name for this is eth1.07:07
Crescendo_Word is it ships with Edgy Eft?07:07
Crescendo_Is this true?07:07
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cwilluheh;  if I turn on mouse-over window focus mode, I can make it snap back and forth between two apps over and over and over again07:07
justin__Parisi: Compiz yummy? lo...07:07
kedarbut now all the network names from the menu don't show up...07:08
cafuegomarcrosoft: it would appear so, yes. Pretty much any gl games don't run.07:08
Parisijustin__,  ya pretty, eye candy.07:08
justin__I do not understand how compiz serves any use.. except for fancy eye candy to off to my friends heh07:08
kedarunder the settings...07:08
MTecknologySo, what free web hosting service can I use to upload my files that will allow me to text advertise, and will let me use ASP and MS Access?07:08
justin__Parisi: Ahhh ;)07:08
kedarso...07:08
kedaris there anyone who can help me?07:08
Parisijustin__,  Just got it to work on my radeon 9200, crappy performance tho.07:08
Crescendo_YOU SPEAK FORBIDDEN NAMES, MTecknology !07:08
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kedarperhaps?07:08
justin__kedar: Whats the problem?07:08
cafuegoMTecknology: Maybe you're asking on the wrong irc channel.07:08
marcrosoftcafuego, i did see someone find a way to run games while having xgl, but it looked like a pain07:08
kedarok justin07:08
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kedarmy wireless connection07:08
kedarhas stopped working07:09
justin__Parisi: Seriously?, I have it running on a Radeon 7000 64mb AGP, really well07:09
The_KnowledgeDr_willis one more thing I want to  know How much space I need for it on my hard and do I need space for SWAP like in Red Hat Linux07:09
MTecknologyI try to ask in ##windows but they don't answer questions in there07:09
Parisijustin__,  What? :)07:09
MTecknologyWill I get help?07:09
Parisijustin__,  What is your processor?07:09
justin__kedar: Oh ok, can't help you I don't mess around with wireless07:09
cafuegoMTecknology: Well, here you're likely to be either flamed or banned or both.07:09
kedaroh :-(07:09
justin__Parisi: 3ghz07:09
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Dr_WillisThe_Knowledge,  i always make at least a 512mb swap partition.  - your needs may vary. and a few gb for ubuntu .07:09
Parisijustin__,  That explains it, 1.7 Intel + 512 ram.07:09
kedaranyone know how I can fix my wireless settings to work?07:09
kedarbecause it isn't picking up any network names07:10
ParisiWhat drivers you running by the way?07:10
kedarand when I used iwlist scan07:10
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kedareth1 brought no scan results07:10
The_KnowledgeMean how much I have  3 Gb on my Drive C07:10
kedaris that a hardware problem?07:10
tar_Apache1 and PHP4 serve my index.php fine if I request /index.php in my URL, but if I request / alone, Apache just sends the source.07:10
marcrosoftI wonder if there is an easy way to switch in an out of xgl / xorg07:10
justin__Parisi: Yeah, I am running 3GHZ, 1gig ram (well just short of that by twenty or so megs) and the driver I am using is the radeon driver open sourced, with a few tweaks I passed to OPTIONS.07:10
kedarperhaps?07:11
The_KnowledgeI want to use  windows  as well ubuntu07:11
shogranhey07:11
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Parisijustin__,  gotcha, its ok tho, my next upgrade will be a 17'' dual core imac with 1 gig ram :)07:11
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matticall 0xc0ffee07:11
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justin__Parisi:  ;) Nice, so you can use all that power for useful things - you know.... like Compiz :))07:12
ParisiSo i am not too concerned about compiz, i am more inclined to OSX07:12
Dr_WillisThe_Knowledge,  you have ONLY a 3gb hard drive?07:12
justin__In reality, thats all extra power is used for.. because for work a PII 128megs of ram .. is a beast07:12
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Parisijustin__,  :)07:12
The_KnowledgeKnow I have07:12
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The_KnowledgeI  have 80 gb  harddisk but  My  all the partition  are  full07:13
ParisiLinux is more of a toy and hobby to me, for real work i'll pass it.07:13
The_KnowledgeI use only drive C for  windows07:13
The_KnowledgeIts 7 gb  partition07:13
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justin__Parisi: Not for me I do all my real work on Linux, and when I fool around I boot up my windows machine.07:13
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villacruelsino ka07:14
Parisijustin__,  I see, the programs i use are windows/osx only, thats not a option under Linux.07:14
manarangdsadasd07:14
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justin__Parisi: But you have to love how apple is hailing "multiple desktops" as "innovation" :)) haha, its funny because we have had it for years :P07:14
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combatehello?07:14
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magnohi07:14
aquitaniahi combate07:14
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manaranghello07:15
manalastasasa07:15
Rivera_hi pOh!!!!!07:15
combatehi ish07:15
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Guecomga bugok,07:15
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clementeboy07:15
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MarTiNezhi bert..07:15
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justin__Parisi: Well what ever gets the job done, an OS is only a background to whatever work needs to be done.07:15
aquitaniamiKe loVe iSh07:15
manarangcombate07:15
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manalastaschat tayo ish and donnel07:15
Tsartoglouwaw07:15
teacherwe will start within 1 minute07:15
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Tsartoglouaw07:15
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RiveratsartoloG!!!!07:15
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LoRezWarning: `Tsartoglou' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.07:15
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bl4cktoneI was wondering if it is possible to use final cut pro with ubuntu07:15
Riverahi din!!!!07:15
Parisijustin__,  Thats correct, i still like their implemenation of most concepts that have been around for a while on the open source world.07:15
aquitaniai lOve you miKe07:15
manalastaschat tayo ish and donnel!! cam 2 cam07:15
dizon_nicholejohn tisoy07:15
manarangcombate banatan kita07:15
bl4cktoneit wouldn't be a program like wine right?07:15
justin__For games I will not mess around all day with options and compiling and libs, I just boot up my windows machine --- windows is just better when it comes to Games (for now)07:15
manarangaw07:15
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dizon_nicholeasa kayo07:16
combatemanahimik kau kei...? ako yun.. ahh... wala lang07:16
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clementelov u kapatid ko07:16
justin__bl4cktone: No it does not work, most audio software for windows does not function in Linux.. the audio system is not even the same.07:16
dizon_nicholelolo mo panot07:16
aquitaniacHe!!07:16
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Guecowag muna daw mag chat07:16
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clementejok lng07:16
dizon_nicholeasa ka ulo!!!07:16
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teacherSTOP CHATTING!07:16
aquitaniae07:16
teacherSTOP CHATTING!!07:16
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MarTiNezhoy j0hn manahimik!!07:16
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clementebaka magalit c mike07:16
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Parisijustin__,  Windows is still better for commercial apps, thats the sad truth.07:17
bl4cktonebut justin__ I thought final cut pro was a apple program07:17
dizon_nicholebunet07:17
aquitaniatlga!07:17
clementegalit ka07:17
Rivera_oizt,,, waG mna mAgcHat!!!!07:17
ParisiI couldnt imagine using Cubase under Linux.07:17
manarangduck07:17
wtfomgis ubuntu compatible with sb audigy soundcards?07:17
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cafuegoCan you robots please stop spamming the channel, thanks.07:17
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clementemanki07:17
Guecoang tigas ng mga ulo nyo STOP CHATTING07:17
manalastasCa you robots please spamming the channel, thanks07:17
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clementelol07:17
dizon_snoopasa07:18
ParisiI wish there was an implemenation of Compiz for Windows, that would kick ass.07:18
cafuego!ops07:18
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!07:18
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Hobbseecafuego: ?07:18
ParisiWell besised the upcoming Vista.07:18
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wtfomgis ubuntu compatible with sb audigy soundcards?07:18
cafuegoHobbsee: cheers07:18
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Hobbseecafuego: that it?07:18
cafuegoHobbsee: there were 5 or so, all from the same host.07:19
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james296how can I properly install compiz/xgl?07:19
naliothcafuego: have at 'em  :)07:19
james296Im having problems07:19
bimberi_stopped the lot with one ban :)07:19
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Madpilotjames296, #ubuntu-xgl07:19
Hobbseecafuego: ah, i see...07:19
james296I was able to get it before, the entire program, but dont remember how I exactly did it07:19
cafuegonalioth: Not running useful software for doing so; gnome-xchat.07:19
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gnomefreakany others?07:20
cafuegonalioth: I'll probably mis-click ;-)07:20
Hobbseegnomefreak: a whole heap.  we could just +q that entire IP, i guess07:20
wtfomgis ubuntu compatible with sb audigy soundcards?07:20
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naliothwtfomg: yes07:20
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Dr_Williswtfomg,  mine work great07:21
cafuego<manalastas> <Gueco>  <clemente> <Rivera> <manarang> <dizon_nichole> <dizon_snoop>07:21
wtfomghow do i configure it?07:21
wtfomgxorg?07:21
Dr_Williswtfomg,  i dident have to do anything to mine.07:21
Dr_Williswtfomg,  xorg has nothing to do with the sound.07:21
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wtfomgsorry, i'm a little new07:21
wtfomg:x07:21
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gladeDr_Willis do you know how to record the soundcard output?07:22
Dr_Williswtfomg,  if you installed, and it dident see it from the begining.. not sure what to do.07:22
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Dr_Willisglade,  nope - in the days gone past.. ya could 'dd from /dev/Somthing' to a file. :07:22
wtfomgwhat about seeing a ntfs drive?07:22
patbamhi, what's a good equivalent to a realvnc server in ubuntu?07:22
Dr_WillisSeeing ntfs is trivial07:22
Dr_Willis!ntfs07:22
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:22
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Dr_WillisThe DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume07:22
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Dr_Willisthat url is worth bookamrking and reading :P07:23
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wtfomgword.  thanks, sir.07:23
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wtfomgmajor pwnage goin on.07:23
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bimberi_patbam: there's vncserver, vnc4server and tightvncserver07:24
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tristilI did something funny. I have a wireless bridge that I stupidly assigned an unreachable ip to. When I plug in through ethernet to the bridge router, I can access the gateway router. The router is running dd-wrt. The question is: how do I telnet in by the mac address? That's the Ubuntu Linux part.07:24
bimberi_patbam: i use the first personally07:24
patbambimberi_: okay, thanks. i'll check it out :)07:24
Dr_WillisI also perfer vnc4server07:24
Hobbseeright, i think wev'e got them all.07:24
Hobbseefrom follwing the nick changes.07:24
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tgelterhey everyone, anyone have experience converting avi movies to a compatible mpeg4 format that works with the ipod video?07:24
cafuegonsi, narciso_, bAd_gUrL518, nsi_, nsi__, bolima, Tsartoglou, zamora, Rivera, aquitania, Lingat, narciso__, dizon_nichole, Tsartoglou gonzaga, narciso07:24
cafuegothose are the ones grep found.07:25
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bimberi_Dr_Willis: i had font issues, which i think can be fixed easily but i was in a rush :)07:25
Dr_Willisbimberi_,  yep. the font path is not set right by the tightvncserver script.07:25
cafuegotgelter: Yup, you need to rebuild ffmpeg and it'll be right.07:26
patbambimberi_: if i want a friend to connect to me from windows with realvnc, will that work?07:26
bleckHey everyone, just wondering if someone could help me out.  When I run apt-get update I get "Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages07:26
bleck  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)07:26
bleck"07:26
Hobbseecafuego: yeah, i found a few more, when i scrolled up07:26
bimberi_patbam: yes07:26
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tgeltercafuego: do you know how to do it using mencoder?07:26
bleckthen Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)07:26
cafuegotgelter: No idea... I have a little script here that I use (You cna use the ffmpeg I built, if you want to)07:27
tgelteris it built for dapper?07:27
cafuegotgelter: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/media/ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1+risky_i386.deb07:27
cafuegotgelter: yup07:27
cafuegocd .bin07:27
tgeltercafuego: why the "risky" tag? =)07:28
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CppIsWeirdcould anyone begin to instruct me on how one would begin to make a ubuntu that would function encryption-wise in this way: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/07:28
cafuegotgelter: That's the ffmpeg calls h.264 support.07:28
tristilbleck: try apt-get clean07:28
cafuegos/the/what/07:28
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bimberi_patbam: with the servers i've pointed you to they need to run a vnc server process first.  Ubuntu also has a built in remote desktop function which uses another vnc server (vino-server).  It's for controlling an existing session remotely.07:28
blecktristil: already tried07:28
blecktristil: and apt-get check, found a forum post about it.  Didn't give me the info they got from apt-get check, even apt-get -v check didn't work07:28
acikhello07:28
aciki'm new to ubuntu07:29
tgeltercafuego: thanks for the help!07:29
cafuegotgelter: Use in combo with http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/vidpod.sh07:29
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we2by!development07:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:29
cafuegotgelter: Run that as "vidpod.sh FILENAME wide" or "vidposd.sh FILENAME"07:29
cafuegotgelter: And it'll spit out a .mp4 file for you.07:30
we2by!compile07:30
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:30
acikhow to change the screen resolution > 1024 x 768 pls help me anybody07:30
DaveyJanyone know how to bridge an ethernet and firewire connection? i tried brctl and it wont let me add eth1 (firewire) :(07:30
tgeltercafuego: dpkg informs me that there is an older version of ffmpeg in the repos...should I use it, or the one you built?07:30
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ecmnhello guys07:31
cafuegotgelter: use the one I built, the one in the repos doesn't have support for H26407:31
ecmni just recetly downloaded a debian package of xchm07:31
acikhow to change the screen resolution > 1024 x 768 pls help me anybody, this is my first time using ubuntu linux07:32
bl4cktoneI don't understand what happened, I was updating ubuntu and at the end got this message07:32
bl4cktoneGet:1335 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe streamtuner 0.99.99-5ubuntu4 [596kB] 07:32
bl4cktoneFetched 797MB in 27m12s (488kB/s)07:32
bl4cktoneFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xserver-xorg-driver-s3_6.8.2-77.1_i386.deb  Size mismatch07:32
bl4cktoneE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?07:32
tgeltercafuego: thanks again for the help07:32
ecmnhow can i install in on Ubuntu?07:32
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tristilacik: Under preferences->Screen resolution or if it's not properly configured, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:32
patbambimberi_: so the person who wants to see my desktop has to run a *server* on their end, and notj ust a viewer?07:32
acikthanks tristil i try07:32
bimberi_patbam: no, just a viewer.07:32
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kendalsHow do you save what you edit in alsamixer?07:33
kendalsPressing ESC seems to not save it?07:33
bimberi_patbam: if you want them to see your own desktop, use the built-in vino-server, which is configured via System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop07:33
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humbleanyone know how to recover from a hosed upgrade to edgy?07:34
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patbambimberi_: ah, ok07:34
tristilhumble: Kind of.07:34
ecmni just recetly downloaded a debian package of xchm, how can i install it on Ubuntu?07:34
EnsignRedshirtecmn: Isn't there an Ubuntu xchm package?07:34
tristilhumble: First, go to a recovery kernel.07:34
bimberi_patbam: if you want them to have their own separate desktop session then you need one of the vnc servers (mentioned earlier) running as a separate process07:34
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patbambimberi_: i see now, thanks for your explanation07:35
gladeecmn sudo dpkg -i XXX.deb07:35
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patbami just want to interact and share the mouse, etc07:35
bimberi_patbam: np :)07:35
ecmni download the debian package?07:35
ecmni download the debian package07:35
humbletristil: i tried that... same hang... if fact i tried all the kernels listes (about 4 + safe) - same thing07:35
ecmntnx glade07:35
tristilhumble: Then start forcing files to upgrade until you have everything.07:35
bimberi_patbam: then all you need should already be there :)07:35
chandanhi07:35
gladeYou can try the chm reader firefox extension07:35
gladeecmn07:35
chandanI need some help , in creating gui for my project07:35
tristilhumble: That's bad :(07:35
patbambimberi_: do i need to some how start the server?07:36
chandanI have an idea of creating an add on cd like thing for debian ,07:36
patbamwith 'remote desktop', i mean07:36
humbleyeah... i get "loading kernel" and then everything halts07:36
ecmntnx for the help07:36
bimberi_patbam: it is started when you enable it via that menu item07:36
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gn0meSo I plug in my digital camera.. and it loads the dialog.. and starts showing photos I can import.. so I accidentally only pick one image, and it imports just the one.. so I go "okay, let's try again".. and now every time the dialog opens, it always returns: An error occurred in the io-library ('Unspecified error'): Could not query kernel driver of device.07:36
bl4cktoneI ran sudo apt-get -f install it completed reading package list and building dependency tree    then it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 927 not upgraded.  What is 927???07:37
gn0meHasn't worked since. :(07:37
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tristilhumble: Download a newer live cd image and use it to recover your files.07:37
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tristilhumble: then try again?07:37
humblethat's what I'm running now07:37
carlsagani can burn a ubuntu livecd with ubuntu right?07:37
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Borathey guys, im in a laptop enlish class, is there any harmless hacks that i can use to imress my buddies?07:38
humblei guess i'll do that... pick up an external drive tomorrow and get my stuff off then re-install07:38
JoseStefanbl4cktone, try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    (again)07:38
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tristilhumble, It happens to the best of us.07:38
carlsaganBorat: compiz/xgl07:38
chandanhi ,can xml file can be parsed thru shell script07:38
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humbleheh... thanks for your help07:38
JoseStefanbl4cktone, 927 means you still have a long way to go07:38
bl4cktone:(07:39
Boratcarsagan: yea i have that, it makes the class go wild lol, but are there anyother things?07:39
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carlsagandoes the ubuntu server installation disk require 192mb of ram to install?07:39
Boratcarlsagan: like except from desktop stuff.07:39
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bl4cktoneok I'll run it again thanks JoseStefan, after running those commands after sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the first time should let this finish the job?07:40
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nikehgfhfd07:40
tristilBorat, check 192.168.1.107:40
JoseStefanbl4cktone, sometimes you have to repeat them many times, one then the other07:41
rlaagerHi. I remember seeing somewhere (on Planet Ubuntu, maybe) a writeup about the progress of the migration-assistance tool. I'm a Gaim developer and I'm looking to see what kind of migration is done for IM and hopefully find the time to improve it. Any ideas where I might find information on this software?07:41
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nlkethats good07:41
nlke:)07:41
nlkeheya07:41
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JoseStefanbl4cktone, and sometimes pkg errors show up, and you have to fix those manually. then run the upgrade commands again07:41
carlsagansorry rlaager, i'm not sure07:41
garrett|mobileHey #ubuntu, I have a question about xauthorization.07:41
garrett|mobileTakers?07:41
Flannel!ask07:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:42
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nlke:)))07:42
garrett|mobile:P07:42
Borattristil: my routers Ip?07:42
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garrett|mobileI'm getting an xauthorization error when I try to do...virtually any type of admin type actions.07:42
Borattristil: in school i need to know the pass and username to log in tot aht.07:43
garrett|mobileFor instance, loading up the disk manager, I just got the error.07:43
garrett|mobile"Unable to copy xauthorization file"07:43
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Flannelgarrett|mobile: you've done things with sudo for graphical programs in the past, right?07:43
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garrett|mobileFlannel, yessir.07:43
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Flannelright, that's your problem.  You need to go to your home file and chown .Xauthorization to yourself07:44
garrett|mobileThe only thing I can think of that has broken it was the recent kernel upgrade that I did earlier.07:44
Flanneland, in the future, use gksudo07:44
tristilBorat, sometimes it's the default, like root:admin, or admin:god :)07:44
cpk1Flannel: too bad he wasnt here last night for the sudo for gui's discussion07:44
Flannelinstead of sudo for graphical apps07:44
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vilefridgeDoes anyone here have Tomcat running on Ubuntu?07:44
Flannelcpk1: there's a reason I went through the wiki and changed all the 'sudo gedit' to gksudo gedit ;)  and there were quite a bit of them ;)07:45
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cpk1Flannel: =P all us ignorant folks always using sudo07:45
carlsagani prefer to destroy my system thank you very much07:45
Flannelcpk1: nescient, not ignorant...  usually anyway.07:46
carlsaganit is worth it to save 2 characters of typing =P07:46
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cpk1carlsagan: you have a point... =)07:46
Flannelcpk1, carlsagan is being bullish, not insightful.07:47
carlsaganfine, fine, mod me -1 Flamebait07:48
garrett|mobileFlannel, what kind of chown parameters should I use?07:48
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Flannelgarrett|mobile: chown it to you:you, simple as that07:49
bl4cktoneJoseStefan, I'm getting quite a few of these Err http://debian.charite.de breezy/restricted Packages 40407:49
tristilBorat, you could phish them. That might be amusing.07:49
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bl4cktonebunch of diffrent ones07:49
kupesoftWhat is the new update about?07:49
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garrett|mobileI''m new to chown. :|07:50
garrett|mobilechown --help isn't...helping.07:50
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kupesoftgarrett|mobile: man chown07:50
Flannelgarrett|mobile: chown user:user file  * with sudo07:50
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JoseStefanbl4cktone, you need to edit your sources.list use http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ as the url07:50
SawnDiddlehi I have a dumb question that I don't know07:50
jaycomp2005anyone having a problem getting php to enter form info in to mysql07:50
Flanneluser:group  but in your case, username:username07:51
sorush20my /dev/hda3 is /home, but its not mounted there..07:51
SawnDiddlehow do I access the root accoutn?07:51
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sorush20should I just edit fstab?07:51
Milchmannwith "sudo command"07:51
Milchmannor "sudo bash" for a root terminal @ SawnDiddle07:52
garrett|mobileYou the man Flannel!07:52
garrett|mobile:D07:52
garrett|mobileGod bless you. Lol.07:52
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Milchmannsu do => superuser do07:52
jaycomp2005my php form acts like it sent the info but when i check the mysql db nothing has been inputed07:52
kupesoftWhy the new updates?07:52
EnsignRedshirtFlannel: you might know this... when I used 'gksudo gedit junk' (for example), I get Gnome-UI warning about Authentication rejected.  The editor still comes up, but file name is wrapped in single quotes.07:52
SawnDiddleunfortunately the password I put in that I used when I setup the OS isn't working for me07:52
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bl4cktoneJoseStefan what do you mean use it as the url? I have sources.list open and don't see what I would replace for that url07:53
garrett|mobileI'm on a roll tonight. I've gotten my desktop (which has more or less been abandoned and turned into a server) up and running with dual monitors, and it finally dual boots with Windows correctly.07:53
EnsignRedshirtFlannel: I am using breezy.07:53
garrett|mobileI've been a busy boy.07:53
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FlannelEnsignRedshirt: you're the second person to have that quotes problem.  I don't, oddly enough.  And I have no idea where it comes from ;)07:53
JoseStefanbl4cktone, could you put your sources.list on the !pastebin07:53
jaycomp2005any one know about php07:53
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Pietjaycomp2005: ask in ##php07:53
bl4cktoneMan I feel like a nub but what's !pastebin?07:53
Flannel!pastebin07:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:54
jaycomp2005ok thanks07:54
kupesoftjaycomp2005: sure,07:54
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EnsignRedshirtFlannel: I've resorted to nano for editing when I need sudo, but it's a pain.07:54
MadpilotSawnDiddle, the pw you gave during install isn't working w/ sudo?07:55
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bl4cktone!pastebin07:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:55
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shinobi2how much disk space do i need for ubuntu 6.06 desktop install?07:55
vilefridgeDoes anyone here have Tomcat running on Ubuntu?07:55
Madpilotshinobi2, about 2Gb07:55
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FlannelEnsignRedshirt: did this just start happening? (the quotes thing)  the warnings are... well, I've always gotten them.07:55
EnsignRedshirtFlannel: No, I've had the problem for a while.07:56
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bl4cktonethink I did it but posted under your name JoseStefan07:56
EnsignRedshirtFlannel: Actually, I'm not sure when the quotes problem started.07:56
JoseStefanbl4cktone, you need to give use the resulting url, the one on the browser07:57
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EnsignRedshirtFlannel: Past problems with using gui programs with root privileges got me in the habit of using nano.07:57
bl4cktonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2395207:58
shinobi2Madpilot: i have only 2 gb, during install , i got a not enought space error, do you know precisely how much i need?07:58
FlannelEnsignRedshirt: hmm, it ... seems to be a gksudo problem, since it's quoted there.  Odd.  And then it opens '/home/flannel'/etc/apt (opening my sources.list)07:58
Madpilotshinobi2, not exactly, but I think it's just under 2Gb07:58
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MistaEDcould someone tell me a good log file to read about system stability? like a kernel panic one? i just got a hardlock about 5 mins into running gnome07:59
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shinobi2i am running vmware, and trying to install ubuntu on it07:59
JoseStefanbl4cktone, i see some mistakes07:59
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cafuegoshinobi2: <heh> 2.2GB would be fine. Give it 4 though, so you have  alittle bit of data storage too.08:00
bl4cktoneJoseStefan, do tell08:00
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JoseStefanbl4cktone, lets generate a new one, go to the address shown on !easysource08:01
JoseStefan!easysource > bl4cktone08:01
shinobi2cafuego: i am still testing, my hd has dual-boot, not much space left.  will reformat hard drive and install vmware to run ubuntu.08:01
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JoseStefanbl4cktone, select Breezy, include both updates, and select the next 2 Packages Boxes, and hit generate08:02
bl4cktoneJoseStefan wow that looks diffrent08:03
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JoseStefanbl4cktone, put the results on your source.list, when done do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:04
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patbami'm trying ot reset my mysql password; i used system/services to stop the service, but when i do a $ mysql -u root -p i get a "can't connect to local myql server thru socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock"08:04
noiesmohey all I've got some midi files I need to convert to audio and audacity doesnt like them any suggestions08:05
patbamoh duh forget it08:05
JoseStefanpatbam, if you stop the mysql service, you wont be able to connect to it :/08:05
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cafuegopatbam: Yes, the server needs to be running if you need to change the password; it's after all stored in the database itself.08:06
noiesmopatbam, this is what i did to reset root password mysql http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060712202032569&query=mysql08:06
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patbamnoiesmo: great, thank you08:06
justinchudgar'lo08:06
noiesmopatbam, np08:06
noiesmopatbam, sorry about site lag in advance08:06
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Crankeyehey08:07
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bl4cktoneJoseStefan Seems to be working now, it's downloading and now I'm at a blue screen saying something about Dictionaries-common: Wordlist dictionary08:07
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bl4cktoneJoseStefan Seems to be working now, it's downloading and now I'm at a blue screen saying something about Dictionaries-common: Wordlist dictionary08:08
JoseStefanbl4cktone, is it asking for anything?08:08
bl4cktonewhoops08:08
bl4cktoneyeah american english I guess08:08
justinchudgarhaving trouble getting an SMP enabled kernel to work on a system with a Pentium D 805 on an ATI RL410 mobo with an Atheros wifi pci card08:08
noiesmocafuego, you need to stop mysql and then restart it in safe mode08:08
Crankeyequick question, when i try and restart it hangs. i got to my terminal ctrl+shift+f1 and its asking for a root passowrd for maintenice, this shouldnt happen when i try and restart, any ideas?08:08
bl4cktoneit's unpacking now08:08
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zoidbergguys quick question08:09
zoidbergis there an Alarm Clock program for UBUNTU08:09
zoidberg?08:09
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justinchudgari have tried a Marvell 8300 based card with ndiswrapper, but, that causes a "soft lock on CPU1" which totally hangs the system08:09
bl4cktoneJoseStefan It's asking do you wish to restart services?08:09
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gladezoidberg Plan08:09
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Crankeyezoidberg: kalarm08:10
cafuegonoiesmo: Not if you know the password or if it's blank.08:10
Crankeyehttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/22/how-to-use-your-linux-machine-as-an-alarm/08:10
JoseStefanbl4cktone, what is prompting that? can you continue upgrading 1st ?08:10
zoidbergCrankeye: is kalarm for KDE...i'm using GNOME08:10
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justinchudgarthe Atheros card works find with kernel 2.6.17-7-386 (UP) but, it is not recognized in either 2.6.17-7-generic or a handrolled 2.6.17-11-ubuntu1 with SMP enabled08:11
EnsignRedshirtzoidberg: sanduhr08:11
Crankeyeread the link, its a blog talking about alrams08:11
CrankeyeKalarm is the KDE alarm tool, which can, besides paying sounds, display a text file, or execute commands at specific times in the future. Even if you are an Ubuntu user (Gnome) you still can install and use kalarm. The name of the package to install is, unsurprisingly, kalarm!08:11
EnsignRedshirtzoidberg: I haven't used it; it showed up in a search in Synaptic.08:11
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justin__Has anyone ever played freeciv?08:11
sorush20can you do dist-upgrade on live cd mode?08:11
glade evolution has an alarm08:11
Flannelsorush20: no.  you need to download the alternate ISO08:12
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sorush20okay08:12
noiesmocafuego, fair enough but the other dude had lost password thats why i thought i'd mention it08:12
bl4cktoneJoseStefan http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23953 this is where I'm at08:12
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bl4cktoneJoseStefan I only went back so far08:13
JoseStefanbl4cktone, you can say yes to that08:13
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Crankeyewhen i restart my computer it hangs, and when i go to the terminal (ctrl+shift+f1) its asking for maintenance password. any ideas?08:14
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JoseStefanbl4cktone, join #bl4cktone08:15
AqDOMG08:15
AqDthere are 800+ people!08:15
Crankeye84308:15
Crankeyeto be exact08:15
AqD:D08:15
Crankeye>_>;08:15
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cafuegoCrankeye: Boot recovery mode and look.08:16
AqDwell guys, if you want to use my mac menubar patch for gtk/gnome, I just released a patch for gtk 2.8 (PS: arch has been using 2.10 for weeks :P)08:16
AqDthe howto is here => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=141142808:16
AqDbye :D08:16
cafuego#advertising is elsewhere.08:16
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CharonX843, and 6 watching the channel .....08:16
AqDcafuego: it's not ad :D08:16
Crankeyecafuego: its not that kind of issue, i can shutdown fine, aswell as boot up08:16
^^Bran^^708:16
AqDcafuego: it's a mac menubar for all gtk apps08:16
Crankeyewhen i say hang i use that lightly08:17
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Crankeyei just sits there waiting for the maitince password08:17
cafuegoAqD; Spam, then. have it your way.08:17
Crankeyewhich shouldn't happend on a restart >_>;08:17
CharonXBy mack menubar, you mean one that expands the icons ?08:17
CharonXmac...08:17
cafuegoCrankeye: Yeah, that implies something has failed. Hence the recovery mode, yoiu might see *what* has failed.08:17
Crankeyeah gotcha08:17
cafuegoCharonX: He meant menu bar locked to top of screen, seperate from app window.08:19
Crankeyei wonder why it only fails on restart..08:19
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cafuegoCharonX: Sadly, he gives BAD INSTRUCTIONS for installing his patch.08:19
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CharonXOh, I was hoping it was a applet I could put in my current menu bar(and then put icons in that applet) to act like the main mac menu08:20
Crankeyethis is going to be interesting to boot into recovery.. im missing the cd to edgy >_<08:21
cafuegoI'm pretty sure there are utils that do that.08:21
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cafuegoCrankeye: it's an item in the grub menu.08:21
CharonXcafu