[12:01] <kitche> caliban: what do you mean by find iso 9660 file
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> caliban: that is a file format not a file
[12:01] <Kill_X> umask=007 as mount option is mostly sufficient
[12:01] <Kill_X> (00 because writing is disabled by the standard driver itself)
[12:01] <caliban> Jack_Sparrow, because, my cdrom cant be mount
[12:01] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, so what about your fstab?
[12:02] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, feel free to query me, too
[12:02] <kitche> caliban: why is your cdrom broken?
[12:03] <caliban> kitche, yep :(
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup      good idea to make a backup.....
[12:03] <caliban> kitche, i dont know whats happen
[12:03] <bmcfarli> /tmp/disks-conf-hda2 is its location in the drivers app
[12:03] <bmcfarli> but it needs to be mounted as a media....
[12:03] <bmcfarli> i think
[12:04] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, okay
[12:04] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, I'll open a query
[12:04] <caliban> kitche, just mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected
[12:05] <kitche> caliban: hmm there is a way but you have to use a live cd and it will be hard for someone not use to linux
[12:06] <Lord_Athur> hi all, I need to use a windows program for a mathematical homework(it's name is "Derive"). is there any similar version for linux?
[12:06] <caliban> kitche, sorry if i use live cd i'll never learn
[12:06] <Malnilion> Lord_Athur, have you tried running it under wine?
[12:06] <jpjacobs> Lord_Athur, there is maxima and yaca
[12:06] <jpjacobs> yacas*
[12:06] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, did you get the private message?
[12:07] <antonio_> salve
[12:07] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, if so, please respond :)
[12:07] <jpjacobs> and maple (but that's expensive proprietary software) also has a linux version
[12:07] <Lord_Athur> thanks, i'll try to install those programs.
[12:08] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, why sudo to copy fstab? ;)
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> force of habit...
[12:08] <Kill_X> ;)
[12:09] <Kill_X> well...
[12:09] <ganja_> hey, does anyone can suggest me any msn client? like, Gaim? can i download the Sim software by apt ?
[12:09] <Kill_X> he doesn't answer my query.
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> If a backup exists... it allows him to overwrite it with the current one
[12:10] <georgy> ganja_ : amsn and yes
[12:10] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, a backup is generally a good idea
[12:10] <ganja_> georgy, sim is better then gaim ?
[12:10] <Kill_X> but in my opinion, only at the source directory
[12:10] <sureshot> hey jack how are you
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Which is why I suggested it
[12:10] <georgy> ganja : I just use amsn for the msn stuff
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> fine sureshot
[12:10] <Lord_Athur> jpjacobs, are those programmes graphical ones?
[12:11] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[12:11] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I know... But I don't see why to sudo when copying to ~
[12:11] <davvs> how do i shut down the xserver?
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: I'm not going to debate it with you...
[12:11] <kitche> Kill_X: you have to sudo since a regular user can't read /etc/fstab or even able to copy it
[12:11] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I'm just kidding :(
[12:11] <redguy> davvs: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:12] <redguy> davvs: or kdm if you're using kde
[12:12] <Kill_X> kitche, that is definitely wrong.
[12:12] <davvs> thanks redguy, im using gnome
[12:12] <davvs> will it work?
[12:12] <redguy> davvs: gdm then
[12:12] <davvs> ok, thanks
[12:12] <bmcfarli> guys i am so confused
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Always gksudo nautilus....   noooooooooooooo
[12:13] <bmcfarli> allow me to switch irc client
[12:13] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, uh
[12:13] <kitche> Kill_X: well /etc/fstab is owned by root so it shouldn't be able to copy it at least that's how my system works but I know that users can read it but they can't do anything with the file
[12:13] <Kill_X> kitche, yes. and it got go+r permissions.
[12:13] <Samuli^> kitche, sure you can copy it to a folder you own.
[12:13] <jpjacobs> Lord_Athur, well, no, there is xmaxima, which is graphical, and proteus-worksheet a frontend to yacas which is still under development
[12:13] <Kill_X> kitche, which means everyone is able to read and copy it.
[12:14] <bmcfarli> I am sorry
[12:14] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, never mind :)
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> We can all agree there are more ways than one to solve most problems
[12:14] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, what client do you use currently?
[12:14] <Samuli^> I don't think there's one file you can't at least read.
[12:14] <bmcfarli> Dapper
[12:14] <rmd> anyone know how to turn off join/part messages in irssi?
[12:14] <Samuli^> by default of course.
[12:14] <kalif> kitche: anybody can read fstab - and copy it
[12:14] <bmcfarli> irc or ubuntu?
[12:14] <kalif> rmd /ignore * joins
[12:15] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, sorry, I meant what IRC client :)
[12:15] <bmcfarli> I was on Xchat
[12:15] <Kill_X> and now?
[12:15] <kitche> kalif: hmmm not on any of my systems they can't I have all the perms set up so only root can touch it
[12:15] <rmd> you are fantastic, kalif, thank you
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kalif: also depends on where they plan on writing the copy..
[12:15] <bmcfarli> now i am using Xchat gnome
[12:15] <bmcfarli> lol so the same thing I assume
[12:15] <kalif> Jack_Sparrow: true
[12:15] <kalif> kitche: strange
[12:15] <bmcfarli> what would a proper client be?
[12:16] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, look out for a thing called Kill_X on your right pane
[12:16] <kalif> kitche: why?
[12:16] <Samuli^> I'm curious about this too.
[12:16] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to make Firefox play streaming windows media videos?
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: wants to do it in private...
[12:16] <cafuego> SpudDogg: mplayer mozilla plugin
[12:16] <SpudDogg> cafuego, will look.  thanks man
[12:16] <lupine_85> Hello ladies and gents. Ignoring the complete lack of content and good lucks for the moment, i'd appreciate opinions on the potential utility of this site:- http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/wireless/
[12:16] <jpjacobs> Lord_Athur, that appears to be yacas-proteus here
[12:16] <georgy> SpudDogg : and w32codecs
[12:16] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I just want him to get that one non-confusing
[12:17] <Kill_X> is that a problem?
[12:17] <Thorrn4> SpudDogg, I kno that konqueror can use mplayer to play those
[12:17] <kitche> kalif: why not I don't want people to mess with fstab
[12:17] <bmcfarli> can  crash your system i assume
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> We dont want you to give him bad info that will kill_x...  :)
[12:17] <Samuli^> kitche, well they won't if they have no write rights.
[12:17] <Kill_X> so do it yourself
[12:17] <CromagDK> !edgy
[12:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> JUst do it in channel...
[12:17] <CromagDK> !schedule
[12:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:18] <bmcfarli> i could care less if it crashes at this point...i just want my hardrives....I can always reinstall
[12:18] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, well... is there a line with /dev/hda2 within your fstab file?
[12:18] <SpudDogg> cafuego, georgy, do either of you know the entire package name for w32codecs?
[12:18] <rmd> SpudDogg: w32codecs is the whole name.
[12:18] <Kill_X> if not, you would have to add one...
[12:19] <cafuego> SpudDogg: They're not in Ubuntu istef.
[12:19] <rmd> download easyubuntu
[12:19] <rummik> AAAHHH!!!one! i can't update packages! "files list file for package `libgl1-mesa-dri' is missing final newline"
[12:19] <kitche> SpudDogg: win32codecs
[12:19] <SpudDogg> rmd, when i sudo apt-get install w32codecs, there is none
[12:19] <lupine_85> no, w32codecs
[12:19] <lupine_85> it's in the PLF repos
[12:19] <lupine_85> !plf
[12:19] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[12:19] <rmd> thats because they are not in your repositories
[12:19] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:19] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, have you used mount to mount your partitions?
[12:19] <lupine_85> !repositories
[12:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:19] <rmd> SpudDogg: google easybuntu and use that
[12:19] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, you see?
[12:19] <Lord_Athur> thanks a lot, bye
[12:19] <bmcfarli> where is this mount that you speak of?
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> SpudDogg: Dont do that...
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[12:20] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, it's a program that let's you mount partitions.
[12:20] <inglo1> hey, I need help installing XGL, I know nothing
[12:20] <inglo1> would anyone mind walking me through?
[12:20] <rmd> Jack_Sparrow: I agree about Automatix, not about easyubuntu
[12:20] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, he does most likely get confused if X people want to help him.
[12:20] <Empty> GRRR WTH is wrong with my ubuntu install
[12:20] <rmd> The packages it installed are visible in synaptic and easily removed.
[12:20] <SpudDogg> Jack_Sparrow: Do you know how to make Firefox stream videos from utube, etc?
[12:20] <bmcfarli> ok, i could use that at this point...where would you suggest getting it?
[12:20] <Lam_> !ping
[12:20] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[12:21] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, just because everyone tells him something else
[12:21] <rmd> Automatix, however, is total crap.
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> easyubuntu has been vastly improved....  agreed.
[12:21] <rummik> how do i fix this? "files list file for package `libgl1-mesa-dri' is missing final newline"
[12:21] <sc0t^^> hello!
[12:21] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, that for, I'm used to solve problems within queries.
[12:21] <georgy> SpugDogg : deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free to you /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:21] <sc0t^^> anyone knows why my ubuntu only shows up half screen=
[12:21] <kitche> !xgl > inglo1
[12:21] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, just my $0.02
[12:21] <Empty> It's a dapper install on an ibm t42 thinkp[ad(ati mobility 7500 vid) and earlier this weekend it started randomly turning off the display
[12:21] <CromagDK> !pastebin
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:21] <davvs> what's ubuntu's libc development package?
[12:21] <eyequeue> Empty, i didn't see the thread earlier, tell us what the symptopms are and maybe someone can help
[12:21] <inglo1> I know what XGL is, I need someone to help me install it
[12:22] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, basicly you do: sudo mount /dev/hda2 (for example) where you want to mount it (/home/username/hda2 for example
[12:22] <eyequeue> Empty, ouch
[12:22] <Subhuman> inglo1, join #ubuntu-xgl
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: You can also understand some people can come here under the pretense of helping, take people to private query and fry their systems
[12:22] <kitche> inglo1: it should have gave you the link to help you install it
[12:22] <Empty> I am in it via ssh right now, and vncserver works too, just normal display is affected
[12:22] <inglo1> yeah, I can't figure out the link
[12:22] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I understand your concerns
[12:22] <eyequeue> Empty, let me ask this, what changed around that point it started happeneing?  any package changes?
[12:22] <Empty> and its affected for a brand new user so it's systemic
[12:22] <Empty> I updated
[12:23] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, the problem is... no beginner would be able to follow suggestions of 2 or 3 people at once.
[12:23] <Empty> Have not really installed much other than that... I added apache2 and some perl libs earlier last week but I doubt they'd hose vid/x
[12:23] <eyequeue> Empty, hmm, display issues are not usually my forte, but do you happen to know what packages were installed there that updated?
[12:23] <kitche> Kill_X: that's why they just listen to one but others can give suggestions
[12:23] <rummik> how do i add a final new line to the list file for the package 'libgl1-mesa-dri'?
[12:23] <eyequeue> Empty, agreed
[12:23] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I agree 100% that there are abusive users in here
[12:24] <eyequeue> Empty, also, there is half of me that wonders if this is a coincidental hardware issue
[12:24] <sc0t^^> my dapper only shows up in half screen and because of that i cant see half of the image because i just dont shows up
[12:24] <Kill_X> kitche, so how do they within a channel flooded with suggestions
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Some of us are regulars... we would not question an op wanting to take someone aside, especially when we are swamped...
[12:24] <sc0t^^> anyone knows whyis this happening?
[12:24] <Empty> eyequeue, packages updated included the kernel and the kernel mod package with the ati drivers
[12:24] <bmcfarli> lol guys, i can do all tasks at once, I am use to somewhat use to unix, the problem comes that my hard drive is mounted a a temp and not a media. any suggestions?
[12:25] <Empty> BUT my symprtoms are different from the other people having problems
[12:25] <secleinteer> hey, the ephpod page says that it's for windows and linux, but there's no linux download link. does anyone know where i can get the linux version?
[12:25] <Empty> and their fix did not fix my box
[12:25] <eyequeue> Empty, okay, hat is actually a promising thing, imo :)  you had, say, -25 before, and it went to -26 (btw, -27 is out as of today)
[12:25] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, mount --bind "directory where it is mounted" "new directory"
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: Post your fstab to the pastebin and supply channel with the reference number..
[12:25] <bmcfarli> pl
[12:25] <kitche> secleinteer: it's for windows only
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[12:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:26] <bmcfarli> ok
[12:26] <eyequeue> Empty, i would try booting to the last known-good-for-you kernel, see if that resolves the issue
[12:26] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I absolutely agree with you. I understand your principles perfectly.
[12:26] <secleinteer> k
[12:26] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, really, it doesn't matter where it is mounted, just change the directory.
[12:26] <secleinteer> i guess their page is just misleading
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Nothing personal I assure you..
[12:26] <kitche> secleinteer: their page says nothing about linux
[12:26] <inglor> hey, quick, what's the command to launch the text editor
[12:26] <secleinteer> look at their title
[12:26] <Empty> eyequeue, last known does nothing for me, nor does -27
[12:26] <inglor> like, what is the simple text editor called?
[12:26] <secleinteer> the title of the page
[12:26] <Samuli^> inglor, nano?
[12:26] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, I am sorry if I just had corrupted these guidelines.
[12:26] <inglor> the nano gui
[12:26] <lupine_85> gedit? nano? kate? joe?
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[12:26] <lupine_85> emacs... ;)
[12:26] <secleinteer> "iPod for Windows (and Linux)"
[12:26] <kitche> secleinteer: their page only says windows
[12:27] <eyequeue> Empty, you ca do that manually from the grub menu, and if you find it does fix things, you can make it your default kernel with the "default" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and then sudo update-grub
[12:27] <inglor> the little nano gui
[12:27] <secleinteer> are you looking at the title of the page?
[12:27] <cpk1> vi?
[12:27] <Samuli^> there's few 'simple' text-editors for linux indeed :)
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> too many options...
[12:27] <inglor> not vi :/
[12:27] <Empty> eyequeue, I might just reinstall the older packages for everything
[12:27] <inglor> the gui one
[12:27] <inglor> that comes in default in ubuntu
[12:27] <kitche> secleinteer: yes but their page only says windows
[12:27] <secleinteer> ok
[12:27] <Samuli^> inglor, gedit?
[12:27] <Skif> Somehow, my timezone info has been corrupted; ubuntu now thinks Mountain time == UTC.  Should I try to reinstall libc6?
[12:27] <secleinteer> then is there another good ipod program that supports album art? i tried gtkpod and the album art doesn't really work
[12:27] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, did you paste your fstab to pastebin?
[12:27] <Empty> eyequeue, just FYI I am a senior admin on debian clusters ;) Just not so hot on the Xorg stuff
[12:27] <inglor> samuli^, yep, that's the one, thanks
[12:27] <eyequeue> Empty, i was hoping it might be something as simple as -26 misbahves with your particular hardware
[12:27] <sc0t^^> my image only apears half screen .... anyone knows why?
[12:27] <sc0t^^> ??
[12:27] <Empty> eyequeue, I was too ;)
[12:28] <secleinteer> the cover only appears for the first track of that album
[12:28] <eyequeue> Empty, thanks for telling me, it gives me a better feel for how to talk, lol
[12:28] <anime_wars> where would be a good place to learn about wine for a linux newbie?
[12:28] <secleinteer> does amarok's ipod support work with album art?
[12:28] <thetruth> i downloaded opera_9.01-20060728.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb   !  do I install it: dpkg -i opera_9.01-20060728.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb  ?
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !winehq
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winehq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <lupine_85> thetruth: add sudo, and you'r there
[12:28] <Samuli^> thetruth, yes. or use the gdebi.
[12:28] <eyequeue> lupine_85, symlink?  what to what?
[12:28] <Kill_X> anime_wars, depends on what you are planning to do with wine...
[12:29] <Empty> eyequeue, I think he thought we were talking *just* about grub
[12:29] <bmcfarli> yes but it was a while ago
[12:29] <thetruth> whats gdebi?
[12:29] <bmcfarli> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:29] <eyequeue> lupine_85, you're thinking in another category than i am, i suspect, broaden my perspective :)
[12:29] <Empty> eg ln -s /boot/foo /baz
[12:29] <anime_wars> kill_x, i want to run a couple of windows programs that I can't use on Linux
[12:29] <georgy> !gdebi
[12:29] <thetruth> ! gdebi
[12:29] <Samuli^> thetruth, graphical deb installer.
[12:29] <kitche> secleinteer: anyways ephpod sounds like it breaks ipods
[12:29] <ubotu> gdebi: Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.4ubuntu13 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 684 kB
[12:29] <lupine_85> I only caught the end of the conversation, but if the partition is being mounted in /tmp, when it needs to be in /media, why not use a symlink in /media ?
[12:29] <thetruth> Samuli^: ill install it
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: We need the reference number to find it..
[12:29] <lupine_85> Or did I miss the point completely? ;)
[12:29] <motin_> I have got trouble with connecting to WPA-SPK secured network.  Is there any debug log available that tells me what is actually going on behind the NetworkManager?
[12:29] <bmcfarli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23921
[12:29] <Samuli^> thetruth, you should have it by default if you're using dapper
[12:30] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, just one second :)
[12:30] <secleinteer> kitche: i used ephpod on windows for years and it never caused any problems. what did was winamp :(
[12:30] <thetruth> Samuli^: how I run it?
[12:30] <alex222> hey
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: we are not sure where it is mounted yet..
[12:30] <Empty> lupine_85, I haver vid issues
[12:30] <alex222> when i play movies they lag w/ XGL enabled
[12:30] <lupine_85> ah, ok
[12:30] <eyequeue> Empty, yeah, this hw issue is odd, but it certainly could have been a kernel matter, and i was hoping ... you tried running some older kernel, maybe -25, with no luck either?
[12:30] <Samuli^> thetruth, by typing gksudo gdebi I think. :)
[12:30] <kitche> anime_wars: you can try wine if you haven't already
[12:30] <Empty> eyequeue, right, no luck on that
[12:30] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, look for bmcfarli in the Recent posts section...
[12:30] <eyequeue> Empty, dang :(
[12:31] <Kill_X> I can't get a proper connection right now :/
[12:31] <Kill_X> H
[12:31] <Kill_X> ah
[12:31] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, got it:
[12:31] <Kalmm_> on an reiserfs partition , I erase with rm some important files , is it anyway to recover them?
[12:31] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23921
[12:32] <thetruth> Samuli^: doenst load
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I see it.
[12:32] <Kill_X> as I expected.
[12:32] <Samuli^> thetruth, well read what it outputs.
[12:32] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, try following
[12:32] <thetruth> Samuli^: To use the graphical user interface, right-click
[12:32] <thetruth> on a '.deb' software package in the file browser
[12:32] <thetruth> and select: Open with 'GDebi Package Installer'.
[12:32] <bmcfarli> ok
[12:32] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, first of all
[12:32] <Samuli^> thetruth. So.. do that then :)
[12:33] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, do you still have the terminal opened I told you to open some time ago?
[12:33] <bmcfarli> got it back
[12:33] <eyequeue> Empty, i'm out of ideas, myself, sorry
[12:33] <mumbles> how do i remboley login to a ubuntu comptuer ?
[12:33] <Kill_X> so press CTRL+X
[12:34] <bmcfarli> k
[12:34] <eyequeue> mumbles, ssh yourname@yourubuntumachine
[12:34] <Empty> eyequeue, NP, thanks for the effort :)
[12:34] <mumbles> sorry i should of said using vnc ?
[12:34] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, now enter 'sudo -s'
[12:34] <eyequeue> Empty, i wish it had been more fruitful
[12:34] <bmcfarli> now in root
[12:34] <eyequeue> mumbles, no idea, i don't use that
[12:34] <mumbles> ah right a googaling i shall go
[12:34] <Empty> eyequeue, Yeah me too ;)
[12:34] <] GoldenDragon> hi, I currently have 3 partitions on my HD, 1 with XP, 1 with Ubuntu, and 1 FAT32 Partition that I want to use to share files between the two systems.. can someone lead me in the right direction towards this end? =] 
[12:34] <eyequeue> mumbles, good luck though
[12:35] <NthDegree> ] GoldenDragon, try mounting the FAT32 partition in your home directory
[12:35] <eyequeue> mumbles, while in google, look up "vnc over ssh" to make it secure
[12:35] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, first of all, enter 'cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.prehda2
[12:35] <Kill_X> '
[12:35] <bmcfarli> ok i already made a copy though
[12:36] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, fine
[12:36] <terlmann> Nthdegree?
[12:36] <NthDegree> ?
[12:36] <] GoldenDragon> how would I be able to do that? O_o I don't see it in My Computer(on ubuntu.)
[12:36] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, so, you are safe to enter 'nano -w /etc/fstab'
[12:36] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:36] <NthDegree> ] GoldenDragon, try adding the partition to /etc/fstab
[12:37] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, add a new line with:
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ] GoldenDragon: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[12:37] <NthDegree> you'll need to know what device it is e.g. /dev/hdd
[12:37] <eyequeue> goldendragon, i can't seem to type you nick here
[12:37] <foo> If I want to be able to ssh into my ubuntu box and do X forwarding .. I need to install X on the ubuntu box, right? or no?
[12:37] <] GoldenDragon> GD is fine =] 
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: above your enter key..
[12:37] <eyequeue> goldendragon, be sure to use "defaults,uid=" in fstab for it
[12:37] <NthDegree> Jack_Sparrow ya so full of helpful scripts lol
[12:37] <kitche> foo: yes but it wouldn't show the full X screen it only does the applications
[12:37] <eyequeue> goldendragon, your uid is probably 1000
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ONly ONes I have personally written or tested
[12:38] <thetruth> Samuli^: it says cant install opera, needs Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[12:38] <] GoldenDragon> should I just use the Diskmounter?
[12:38] <thetruth> Samuli^: what can I do?
[12:38] <thetruth> Samuli^: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt ?
[12:38] <eyequeue> goldendragon, otherwise yhou'll need to use sudo for every single access of that partition, and i doubt that's desirable, heh
[12:38] <Samuli^> thtruth, wait a minute.. why are you installing opera from outside the repositories anyways?
[12:39] <Kill_X> bmcfarli: /dev/hda2[TAB] /media/hda2[TAB] ntfs[TAB] noauto,users,umask=007[TAB] 0[TAB] 0
[12:39] <foo> kitche: right... so I do need to install x. hm, thanks
[12:39] <] GoldenDragon> so use that Diskmounter script Jack Sparrow showed me? okay =] 
[12:39] <eyequeue> goldendragon, diskmounter is a fui tool?  i'm not familiar with it, but i'm not a gui guy
[12:39] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, use your tabulator key everytime I entered [TAB] 
[12:39] <] GoldenDragon> it is just a script.
[12:39] <] GoldenDragon> i dont think its gui.
[12:39] <Samuli^> thetruth, If you have a reason to install deb from outside the repos, then yes :)
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Not gui
[12:40] <thedash> would there be any good reason why Azureus thinks my hard drive is read-only when it isn't?
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> three lines of instructions at the top of the script
[12:40] <mumbles> eyequeue done anything with terminal server ?
[12:40] <thetruth> Samuli^: but opera isnt on the repos
[12:40] <Samuli^> thetruth, I find that hard to believe.
[12:40] <eyequeue> mumbles, no i use ssh myself
[12:40] <] GoldenDragon> ahh wait, I've definately used this script before..
[12:40] <theBeno> kalif, You there?
[12:40] <] GoldenDragon> I still only see 2 partitions in my computer... Ubuntu and XP, not the empty FAT32 partition
[12:40] <starscalling> :>
[12:40] <starscalling> installing ubuntu on  my brother's lappy
[12:41] <bmcfarli> ok now save it?
[12:41] <eyequeue> goldendragon, even with sudo fdisk -l ?
[12:41] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, press CTRL+O and then CTRL+W
[12:41] <Samuli^> !opera
[12:41] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:41] <Samuli^> thetruth, it _is_ in the repos
[12:41] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, I forgot to ask: do you want to automount it at linux startup?
[12:42] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:42] <Samuli^> thetruth, you probably just don't have the right repositories enabled.
[12:42] <starscalling> but in my experience installing from repos sux
[12:42] <Kill_X> sorry
[12:42] <starscalling> :/
[12:42] <starscalling> follow the wiki
[12:42] <tiede> hi all. Someone knows how I can make the Debian menu appear? I am using dapper. I remember in Hoary and Breezy all I had to do was 'sudo apt-get install menu' but it seems that's not enough...
[12:42] <kitche> Samuli^: by default ubuntu hides commercial applications
[12:42] <starscalling> tiede, yeah easy
[12:42] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, then reopen fstab with 'nano -w /etc/fstab'
[12:42] <rukuartic> Hey there, I'm just having some problems with video codecs. I'm trying to watch a movie, and it used to work fine. However now, all the colors are messed up like its some psychadelic experience.
[12:42] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
[12:42] <starscalling> when it installs
[12:42] <lostinc> Is there a way to recover a file that I deleted and then emptied the trash can?
[12:42] <starscalling> update-menus
[12:43] <starscalling> then
[12:43] <rmjb_> tiede: run alacarte
[12:43] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, and replace the 'noauto' in the /dev/hda2 line with 'auto'
[12:43] <starscalling> killall gnome-panel
[12:43] <starscalling> and vua la there it is
[12:43] <bmcfarli> and do you not need to know the position of the partition
[12:43] <georgy> lostinc: no
[12:43] <rukuartic> lostinc: Not easily.
[12:43] <Samuli^> kitche, well, yeah. one needs to uncomment multiverse from the sources.list, I think.
[12:43] <starscalling> do those things in a terminal ok rukuartic ?
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: no
[12:43] <rukuartic> starscalling: Really thats it?
[12:43] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, after that again CTRL+O and CTRL+X
[12:43] <tiede> It's disabled in Alacarte
[12:43] <bmcfarli> ok
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: unless you get some hardware undelte utils
[12:43] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, done?
[12:43] <starscalling> yup
[12:43] <Samuli^> tiede, so enable it :)
[12:43] <bmcfarli> yes
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: the feds can retrieve it
[12:43] <rukuartic> starscalling: Why's that causing the video to mess up?
[12:43] <thetruth> lostinc: so ask them ;)
[12:43] <starscalling> ?
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: non-free and commercial too?
[12:44] <lostinc> theTruth HOW?>
[12:44] <tiede> I meant it's greyed out. Can't tick the box ;)
[12:44] <starscalling> what does showing the debian menu have to do with the video messing up?
[12:44] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, now enter 'mkdir /media/hda2'
[12:44] <rukuartic> starscalling: I think you're answering the wrong person's question :P
[12:44] <starscalling> i think so
[12:44] <starscalling> lets take a look at yours
[12:44] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, umm, is there a repository called commercial or non-free? I thought that was what multiverse is all about.
[12:44] <starscalling> um
[12:44] <starscalling> ah
[12:44] <bmcfarli> k
[12:44] <starscalling> what are u using to watch the video
[12:44] <thetruth> lostinc: only a professional can get yoour file back!  unless you want to do it yourself which is complicated
[12:44] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, now 'mount -a'
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: IN synaptic you have those options to check as well..
[12:45] <lostinc> LOL I am willing to try
[12:45] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, any errors?
[12:45] <starscalling> what are u using to watch the video @rukuartic
[12:45] <rmjb_> tiede: even if you enable the submenus? In mine when I do that the Debian menu comes up
[12:45] <rukuartic> starscalling: Totem...
[12:45] <bmcfarli> ount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/hda2 busy
[12:45] <bmcfarli> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:45] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, ok, well I'm sure all it does is uncomment universe and multiverse from sources.list
[12:45] <thetruth> lostinc: are you an experienved linux user?
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> What format is that video..?
[12:45] <rukuartic> starscalling: Vlc and xine seem to be messed up too
[12:45] <rukuartic> Format's mpg, avi... pretty much everything
[12:45] <lostinc> Somewhat
[12:45] <bmcfarli> which it is....
[12:45] <tiede> The submenus are enabled, yes. It still won't show up rmjb_
[12:45] <lostinc> I certainly can follow instructions
[12:45] <starscalling> mm
[12:45] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm
[12:45] <lupine_85> e2undel works for ext2 partitions... dont' think there's anything for reiser, though :(
[12:45] <rcsolutions> Hey all, when I try to open the Firefox Preferences, I get this message: "XML Parsing Error: Syntax Error; Location: chrome//browser/content/pref/pref.xul; Line Number 1, Column 1; ttribute = "disabled";" and a "^" pointing to the first 't' of ttribute. How do I solve that problem? thanks.
[12:45] <foo> $ vncviewer
[12:45] <starscalling> what have you installed lately rukuartic
[12:46] <foo> Error: Can't open display:
[12:46] <mrbrdo> one question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, then umount /tmp
[12:46] <tiede> starscalling, I tried apt-get install menu menu-xdg but got nothing...
[12:46] <ofer> how it is possible to uninstall opera browser and install the new version? (already downloaded the new version)
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> School must have gotten out, we just got busy...
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, STOP
[12:46] <bmcfarli> pl
[12:46] <habakkuk> NthDegree: here?
[12:46] <bmcfarli> okj
[12:46] <habakkuk> ;] 
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, DO NOT!
[12:46] <bmcfarli> ok it didnt work.....
[12:46] <mrbrdo> one question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?
[12:46] <starscalling> tiede,
[12:46] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
[12:46] <starscalling> it should install the menu
[12:46] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, enter 'mount'
[12:47] <effer> help!  i've followed the HOWTO on installing the ATI drivers (had to reinstall them after a kernel upgrade), but when i do 'fglrxinfo', i'm still getting mesa! :(
[12:47] <rmjb_> tiede: well I'm lot now, sorry, but I'm new at Ubuntu also so maybe someone else here can help
[12:47] <NthDegree> habakkuk, what's the issue m8?
[12:47] <starscalling> then in that terminal do " update-menus " as regular user
[12:47] <starscalling> then
[12:47] <starscalling> killall gnome-panel
[12:47] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, there should be a line with /dev/hda2
[12:47] <rukuartic> Gonna reboot... brb
[12:47] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, what is it mounted on?
[12:47] <tiede> I DID do sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg starscalling... Do I need to do a killall gnome-panel too?
[12:47] <bmcfarli> /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:47] <tiede> I'll try it any way.
[12:48] <mrbrdo> one question: how to rebuild a kernel module (not the whole kernel, only 1 module)?
[12:48] <starscalling> yes
[12:48] <eyequeue> i hope everyone here has a short uptime!
[12:48] <starscalling> you need to kill the panels
[12:48] <NthDegree> yes i'm here Vanique :)
[12:48] <starscalling> they come right back automagically tiede
[12:48] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, okay: umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:48] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: which module?
[12:48] <Bend4rt> hey what's the best music player out there for ubuntu ? im used to using itunes on mac and winamp on windows ? any suggestions ? '
[12:48] <iceman24k> there a way to write to a NTFS drive, I can read it
[12:48] <tiede> I noticed that now the box is ticked in Alacarte, starscalling. Although I still don't see the debian menu...
[12:48] <lupine_85> and why do you need to rebuild it?
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Not advised...
[12:48] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: bcm43xx
[12:48] <eyequeue> Bend4rt, beep-media-player is nice
[12:48] <lupine_85> Bend4rt: amarok :).  xmms is like winamp, though
[12:49] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, after that 'mount -a' again
[12:49] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display:
[12:49] <Bend4rt> k thanks i'll check them out
[12:49] <foo> Any ideas?
[12:49] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i just need to change something in bcm43xx_main.c, that's all. i don't want to build a custom kernel just over that
[12:49] <Samuli^> Bend4rt, amarok is really cool. Rhythmbox is okay too.
[12:49] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, still errors?
[12:49] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow even moving a folder between the linux drive and the NTFS drive ?
[12:49] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: ok, if you can get the module source form their site, you can compile that... much easier than using the stuff in the kernel source
[12:49] <Bend4rt> ty
[12:49] <eyequeue> foo, it sounds like you are using vnc there
[12:49] <bmcfarli> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
[12:49] <bmcfarli>        missing codepage or other error
[12:49] <bmcfarli>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:49] <bmcfarli>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:49] <Samuli^> Bend4rt, amarok in gnome can draw a lot of kde-stuff with it though.
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Writing anything to ntfs is a problem
[12:49] <eyequeue> foo, are you starting from an X box?
[12:49] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: is there a way with using ubuntu stuff too?
[12:49] <starscalling> tiede,
[12:49] <tiede> ok starscalling, killall gnome-panel made it work.... I don't know why I had to do that, though..
[12:50] <foo> eyequeue: Yup. I just installed xserver-xorg
[12:50] <starscalling> thats the way it is
[12:50] <starscalling> ;p
[12:50] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: sure. Download the kernel source and go from there
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: THere is fuse and ntfs-3g... but... still not 100% safe
[12:50] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, so 'dmesg | tail' and paste the output to pastebin
[12:50] <eyequeue> foo, are you using ssh -X ?
[12:50] <rcsolutions> Is there anyone avaliable???
[12:50] <scarsofwar> holasssss
[12:50] <foo> eyequeue: yes sir
[12:50] <eyequeue> foo, those were my only 2 ideas, sorry
[12:50] <tiede> thanks a lot starscalling!!! And thanks to you to, rmjb_ !
[12:50] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: not possible to download from site - it says it's built into kernel
[12:50] <Samuli^> iceman24k, I think there's a program to write _safely_ to ntfs though. It uses the windows .dll's. Try google for it :)
[12:50] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: yes i have the kernel source, but how can i only update the modules now?
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Here is my fav link for the broadcom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[12:50] <scarsofwar> hello, i need hellp
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: or only this module, but not the kernel
[12:51] <foo> eyequeue: hm, thanks anyways. Anyone else?
[12:51] <bmcfarli> umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda2
[12:51] <bmcfarli> sorry
[12:51] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow well that totaly sucks. makes me want a Fat32 install for linux. again
[12:51] <bmcfarli> NTFS-fs error (device hda2): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option umak.
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[12:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[12:51] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: well "make modules" will build just the modules... you can then copy the appropriate .ko files over
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i tried to change EXTRAVERSION so it matched my current version, but after i installed those modules, they were unloadable. i think linux-sources is different than my current kernel
[12:51] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, umaSk?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: I have a fat32 just for that reason.
[12:51] <lupine_85> I'm sure there's another way to do it, though
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i did make modules_install too
[12:51] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, I don't think that's the one.
[12:51] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow got the link thanks
[12:51] <bmcfarli> thats all it said
[12:51] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: you didn't want to do make modules_install ;)
[12:51] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: but it didn't work, like i said.. it wasn't loadable
[12:52] <scarsofwar> sombody knows how install flex and bison and all their dependences
[12:52] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: so, i do make modules. what then?
[12:52] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, try umask, as i know for sure imak is not an option
[12:52] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, reopen fstab with 'nano -w /etc/fstab'
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> where would one get all those naked ubuntu wallpapers
[12:52] <bmcfarli> k there
[12:52] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow makes me wish i knew linux better, if only i could update winlinux 2000 to a new kernel and Ubuntu easy  :(
[12:52] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, replace 'umak' with 'umask'
[12:52] <lupine_85> just copy the .ko over - it should work, assuming you have the right source
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[12:52] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: and, do i need to modify the EXTRAVERSION to match my current version?
[12:53] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: it can't hurt
[12:53] <vicscandl> !webcam > vicscandl
[12:53] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, the hoary distro i think, "calendar"
[12:53] <bmcfarli> ok it mounted now
[12:53] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: because by default extraversion is .11-ubuntu1, but mine is -7-386
[12:53] <bmcfarli> restart?
[12:53] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: but, when i did that and make modules_install, it didn't work
[12:53] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, maybe it was warty?
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: That script is looking better all the time eh?
[12:53] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i don't see how it's different if i just copy the ko over
[12:53] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, are you able to access the partition as normal iser?
[12:53] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow heck even a Slackware build using zipslack and adding x, but it gets corrupt and missing files
[12:54] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, linux only needs a reboot for a new kernel (and there was one today, security)
[12:54] <bmcfarli> says i still lack permission
[12:54] <Kill_X> Jack_Sparrow, don't you ever misspell something?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Hi, how did that trick on your cpu cooling work out?
[12:54] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: ?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: All ds time
[12:54] <eyequeue> i hope everyone here has a short uptime!
[12:54] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, I meant normal user :/
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Kill_X: Fat fingers typing way too fast
[12:55] <jojoman02> i think we all need the "workrave" package from repo's
[12:55] <bmcfarli> right i lack permission
[12:55] <eyequeue> !info workrave
[12:55] <ubotu> workrave: RSI prevention tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 635 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[12:55] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, umask=000 ?
[12:55] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, is it a fat32 partition or what?
[12:55] <lupine_85> hmm... presumably, you'll need to specify the appropriate linux-headers directory to build against, then
[12:55] <btete> wazzup! bro
[12:55] <iceman24k> I do like the DELL optiplex CPU fan for a 3 ghz P4 HT. what a fan.
[12:55] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display: Any ideas?
[12:55] <bmcfarli> no, ntfs
[12:56] <jbu> does anyone know how to edit a file through gedit as root while in ubuntu?  it says i dont have the required permissions
[12:56] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: how do i do that?
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[12:56] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: i have the headers package downloaded
[12:56] <eyequeue> jbu, gksudo gedit foo
[12:56] <iceman24k> jbu sudo gedit the file
[12:56] <jbu> thanks
[12:56] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, then you should not have permission to write because linux really can't do that ntfs being a closed source file system and all that.
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: make a backup of any file first
[12:56] <jbu> ok
[12:56] <eyequeue> iceman24k, prepend gk if a gui app
[12:56] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?
[12:56] <iceman24k> jbu absolutle make a backup
[12:56] <bmcfarli> i do not want to write
[12:56] <bmcfarli> i want to read
yeah the noise aint as bad now excellent stuff man :D ...although I gota wait for ariapc to send me a new fan, no shops sellin fans in my local area
[12:56] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, that means you cannot access /media/hda2 from the gnome menu?
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: No.... gksudo for gui apps in gnome... kdesu for giu apps in kde
[12:57] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: u mean if i compile it myself?
[12:57] <bmcfarli> correct
[12:57] <starscalling> Samuli^, actually there are a couple ways to make linux r/w to ntfs
[12:57] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, ok, umask=000 should do just that.
[12:57] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, places?
[12:57] <starscalling> its just not the smartest thing ever
[12:57] <pianoboy3333> !src
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <starscalling> :P
[12:57] <pianoboy3333> !sources
[12:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:57] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: it's something about wrong parameters or broken.. something in such way
[12:57] <btete> Hi there Audrey! How are you? hope you're fine and doing well back there!
[12:57] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow heck sudo has always worked for me
[12:57] <Samuli^> starscalling, I know, but they're not preferable.
[12:57] <starscalling> agreed.
[12:57] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:it is already a kernel module
[12:57] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: so how do i build against my headers?
[12:57] <bmcfarli> it isnt listed under places
[12:57] <starscalling> to share windows with linux i personally use fat32
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: remember... that is a short term fix....
[12:57] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: yes but i need to patch it.
[12:58] <lupine_85> not sure how to do it with that source - their makefile is beyond me. But why not try this? http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: that can mess up permissions and really mess up your system
[12:58] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:why?
[12:58] <xenthral> Hi, how do I go about setting up a custom resolution for my desktop?
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: gksudo is safer
[12:58] <mrbrdo> because then i need to rebuild the whole kernel
[12:58] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, you might want to add read-only to your fstab options too, if you don't have that already.
[12:58] <eyequeue> iceman24k, it might fo the command, but it can hose the overall system
[12:58] <mrbrdo> and then i need to have problems with fglrx
[12:58] <mrbrdo> etc etc
[12:58] <jbu> (gedit:8170): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:58] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow whats the other command, i'll note it for my own learning, may be where i screw thing up . :)
[12:59] <jbu> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: working with root access always has dangers.. mostly from the user themself
[12:59] <jbu> i got this error using gksudo
 yeah thats why Im annoyed that i have to wait for ariapc to mail me a fan, and there prices are a joke
[12:59] <jbu> gedit
[12:59] <iceman24k> gedit
[12:59] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, open your filemanager and navigate to /media/hda2
[12:59] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:so, what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?
[12:59] <iceman24k> gksudo ?
[12:59] <eyequeue> jbu, are you doing this from your first-created user?
[12:59] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, are you able to open that directory?
[12:59] <bmcfarli> i did it has a big X on it
[12:59] <mrbrdo> linuchsan: no error, i just need to patch it for injection
[12:59] <jbu> eyequeue: yes
[12:59] <mumbles> argh this should of been easy
[12:59] <mumbles> :(
[12:59] <doug_> anyone know why I'm getting "collect2: cannot find 'ld'" when compiling c program?
[12:59] <eyequeue> iceman24k, gksudo is safe, sudo is unsafe it not a cli all
[12:59] <mumbles> i only want xdmcp support
[01:00] <Kill_X> so what the hell...
[01:00] <eyequeue> iceman24k, gksudo is safe, sudo is unsafe iF not a cli aPP
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: gksudo gedit   did not bring up gedit window...
[01:00] <matttail> hey there, I've got a question... in the ubuntu wiki for updating Firefox it says "There are two ways you can update firefox to the newest version.
[01:00] <matttail> The first way is to close Firefox and give your user (yourself) file ownership: sudo chown -R ${USER}:${USER} /opt/firefox Start Firefox normally and update (Help -> Check for updates...) Once the update is completed, close Firefox and then restore ownership to root: sudo chown -R root:root /opt/firefox Do NOT browse other sites while firefox has these elevated permissions, that is without changing back the ownership of /op
[01:00] <matttail> t/firefox over to root. Such a practice is not safe. "    Why is it not safe?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: You will see an error in the terminal window...
[01:00] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, at your /etc/fstab
[01:00] <iceman24k> noted, and may well be where i toast my installs
[01:00] <bmcfarli> yes?
[01:00] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, actually use umask=222 that gives everyone read and execute right's but not writing.
[01:00] <mumbles> Jack_Sparrow any luck with xdmcp in the past ?
[01:00] <cafuego> matttail: You don't want sites porribly writing to the firefox install directory.
[01:00] <jbu> jack_sparrow: yep...do u know what i'm doing wrong? i'm new to this
[01:00] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, at the /dev/hda2 line... what umask= did I tell you?
[01:00] <eyequeue> matttail, running things as root is bad bad bad
[01:00] <Kill_X> 002 or 007?
[01:01] <bmcfarli> 007
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: what are you trying to edit/change?
[01:01] <matttail> ok, thanks!
[01:01] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: xorg.conf, to edit my video driver info
[01:01] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, sorry... should read 002 - or 000
[01:01] <mrbrdo> well anyway, does anyone know of a way to rebuild only a kernel module and not the whole kernel? please
[01:01] <lupine_85> mrbrodo: did you look at http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt ?
[01:01] <jbu> in /etc/x11
[01:01] <iceman24k> jbu cant do a reconfig
[01:01] <kitche> matttail: if an app has a vuln then if you get that vuln running as root then the attracker can do anything pretty much to your system
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf                 but first use        sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[01:01] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: yes, it involves rebuilding the kernel
[01:02] <bmcfarli> remount? or is it fine?
[01:02] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: besides i think it does not work for .17, not sure tho
[01:02] <Samuli^> Kill_X, make that 222 because it's a ntfs partition. You don't want anyone to write on that (if it's even possible)
[01:02] <finalbeta> Lols, anyone uses xchat gnome? How do I get the users listed on the right?
[01:02] <finalbeta> Pressing the users button is a joke
[01:02] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, simply save your new fstab, then 'umount /media/hda2' then 'mount -a'
[01:02] <eyequeue> matttail, and something as bloated as firefox is never rootsafe
[01:02] <iceman24k> can you manualy edit xorg.conf to enable resolutions above 1024x768 ?
[01:02] <lupine_85> no you don't :). Read it again
[01:02] <doug_> anyone know why gcc is unable to find 'ld' when I'm compiling my c program, using gcc 4.0.3 in ubuntu?
[01:03] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: that's what i did the first time, but it didnt work, for some reason it worked this time.  Thanks
[01:03] <lupine_85> and it should work with 2.6.17
[01:03] <xenthral> I'm wondering that myself
[01:03] <Kill_X> Samuli^, write support is disabled by the kerneldriver as default
[01:03] <xenthral> how can I get a resolution like 1152x(something) ?
[01:03] <lupine_85> (those particular options are included in the .17 kernel)
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu:   np probably a typo
[01:03] <eyequeue> finalbeta, can you drah that riht line to make room for the userslist?
[01:03] <Kill_X> Samuli^, 002 will suffice.
[01:03] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: my card is not softmac, but fullmac
[01:03] <iceman24k> xenthral have you done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:03] <eyequeue> doug_, do you have build-essential?
[01:03] <finalbeta> eyequeue: no, i'm using xchat-gnome
[01:03] <lupine_85> hrm
[01:03] <bmcfarli> holy shit kill thanks
[01:03] <xenthral> nope
[01:03] <Kill_X> Samuli^, just in case he wants to switch to ntfs-3g some time O:-)
[01:03] <Samuli^> Kill_X, curious why you wanted to keep the last 2 :)
[01:04] <jbu> when you guys write the name of the user you're talking to on irc do you type it in or is there a shortcut to paste the user's name
[01:04] <xenthral> sorry I'm a linux newb
[01:04] <xenthral> what does that do?
[01:04] <lupine_85> well, building the krnel from source - or writing your own makefile - might be the only choice
[01:04] <eyequeue> !language > bmcfarli
[01:04] <bmcfarli> maybe i want to write to it
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: tab to complete
[01:04] <lupine_85> "make oldconfig" takes all the decision making out of kernel compilation
[01:04] <kitche> jbu: well you can press tab for an auto complete but I usually just paste the nick
[01:04] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, that for you may want to install ntfs-3g
[01:04] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: where should i find the snapshot of the bcm43xx module?
[01:04] <jbu> oh cool
[01:04] <jbu> kitche: o cool
[01:04] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: if i get that i guess i could do what that guide says
[01:04] <bmcfarli> yeah i wont, but thats why we left it
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: You have been warned about writing to ntfs... no crying when you lose everything
[01:05] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, but you should reconsider your permissions (the umask= thingie) then...
[01:05] <bmcfarli> ok
[01:05] <jbu> kitche: you can't just like highlight someones name in the list of users and then press a button and have that persons name appear?
[01:05] <doug_> eyequeue, yes I have build-essential installed
[01:05] <bmcfarli> 000
[01:05] <Kill_X> NO
[01:05] <iceman24k> xenthral do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that will allow you to manulay configure "x" but make a backup or xorg.cong first.
[01:05] <eyequeue> doug_, no idea then
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohhhhhhhhhh
[01:05] <kitche> jbu: nope but if you type in part of their name then hit tab it will auto-complete it
[01:05] <xenthral> ok, thanks man
[01:05] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 000 would mean everybody had complete access to the partition ;)
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> xenthral: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[01:05] <jbu> sweet
[01:06] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, use 222 just to be on the safe side.
[01:06] <eyequeue> jbu, see how this line is hilighted?
[01:06] <iceman24k> xenthral i'm no where near the expert. but can help with what i know, take the burden off the brains.
[01:06] <eyequeue> and this line is not?
[01:06] <jbu> eyequeue: yes
[01:06] <eyequeue> and this line is not?
[01:06] <mcphail> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg makes a backup automatically
[01:06] <jbu> eyequeue: yes
[01:06] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: any idea?
[01:06] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, consider the umask option to be inverted to normal chmod options...
[01:06] <mumbles> found it
[01:06] <eyequeue> oops
[01:06] <lostinc> Does anyone here have an A+ Cert
[01:06] <mumbles> one sec will past the link
[01:06] <bmcfarli> oh
[01:06] <eyequeue> jbu, anyway with 800+ in here, it's handy
[01:06] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 222 is like 555
[01:07] <xenthral> turns out I'm gonna have to try that out later, but thanks for the help regardless :)
[01:07] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 000 is like 777
[01:07] <bmcfarli> haha ok
[01:07] <bmcfarli> well i just want to read
[01:07] <Samuli^> you don't give rights, you take them away with umask.
[01:07] <starscalling> do te do te dummm
[01:07] <bmcfarli> so 666?
[01:07] <FlaX> Ubuntu destroyed my gfx ^^
[01:07] <iceman24k> Why when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try to get higher resolutions, X and gnome still only allows me 1024x768 and why cant i get a 1200X enabled ?
[01:07] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: see, that's why it will not work in .17, because .15 did not yet include that module (i think)?
[01:07] <FlaX> rebooted and then it died
[01:07] <FlaX> That's cute
[01:07] <mooney> actually the umask is the difference from 666 for files and 777 for directories
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Still running vesa or mesa driver
[01:08] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, 222 should be okay...
[01:08] <jbu> hey all, i tried to mount my ntfs partition using "sudo nano /etc/fstab" but it doesn't show my /dev/hdc1 like it does in fstab...does anyone know what is going on?
[01:08] <starscalling> iceman24k, mm
[01:08] <Kill_X> so
[01:08] <bmcfarli> but cant i still write with 222?
[01:08] <iceman24k> Jack_Sparrow nvidia driver in.
[01:08] <starscalling> when you do this reconfigure
[01:08] <starscalling> you need to check higher resolutions
[01:08] <starscalling> did you do that
[01:08] <starscalling> after its reconfigged
[01:08] <starscalling> you need to restart X
[01:08] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, no, 2 is writing rights, 1 is executable and 4 is reading.
[01:08] <eyequeue> jbu, did you misspeak?  sudo mount /foo is more the command
[01:08] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, yes.
[01:08] <linuchsan> mrbrdo:so, what error do you get with the bcm43xx module?
[01:08] <starscalling> ctrl+alt+bkspace
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: sorry thought 1200x was ati.. doh!
[01:09] <eyequeue> jbu, whatever mountpoint is in fstab, not foo, of course
[01:09] <iceman24k> have restarted x, just the reconfigure fails to embed the added resolutions
[01:09] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, so if you just want to read and not execute scripts or programs, use 333
[01:09] <Kill_X> bmcfarli, but since the standard ntfs driver does NOT support writing in standard mode anyway...
[01:09] <bmcfarli> it goes r-w-x
[01:09] <jenny_b> can someone please help me?  i recently got the new kernel, and now my 3d acceleration doesn't work (ati)...i've followed the howto's to reinstall the drivers, but still, when i do 'fglrxinfo', i still get mesa!  please help!
[01:09] <bmcfarli> 1-2-4 No?
[01:09] <mumbles> eyequeue Jack_Sparrow - http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Enabling-xdmcp-in-tsclient-for-ubuntu is what i used
[01:09] <jbu> eyequeue: hmm im just telling u what the tutorial told me to do
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> mrbrdo: Please make a note of this link....  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[01:09] <Kill_X> jeez
[01:10] <Blissex> jenny_b: try asking in #ATI with specific error messages you get in '/var/log/xorg.0.log'.
[01:10] <starscalling> iceman24k,
[01:10] <starscalling> exit X
[01:10] <iceman24k> I can go 1152 x 768 but wand higher
[01:10] <Kill_X> I got to get to bed
[01:10] <Da_FBi> hello!
[01:10] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, no. 1 execute, 2 write and 4 read, okay? :)
[01:10] <starscalling> then do your reconfigure
[01:10] <starscalling> how high can your monitors go
[01:10] <lupine_85> bah, I give up. no  source anywhere but the kernel :(
[01:10] <Blissex> jenny_b: but note that very recent X servers may be too new for released ATI drivers.
[01:10] <joeandkrystal> can someone point me to a detailed guide on installing ati official drivers and explination of the commands to configure it ?  the opensource driver causes my system 2 crash
[01:10] <mumbles> how do i add that to the bot ?
[01:10] <Samuli^> man chmod, if you don't believe me.
[01:10] <starscalling> and do you have the correct driver in for your video card?
[01:10] <jbu> eyequeue: it wants me to edit the fstab
[01:10] <lupine_85> just build your own with make oldconfig and be done with it
[01:10] <Kill_X> Samuli^, Jack_Sparrow, can you take over? :/
[01:10] <jenny_b> Blissex, i've never had a problem before....and that file doesn't exist on my computer
[01:10] <eyequeue> jbu, sudo mount /foo mounts things, sudo nano /etc/fstab edits that file, not mounting anything
[01:10] <lupine_85> that, or write your own makefile for the source
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> iceman24k: Post your xorg to the pastebin for people to review..   gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <iceman24k> starscalling have reconfigured, 15 inch LCD.
[01:11] <Kill_X> gn8
[01:11] <eyequeue> jbu, go ahead and edit it, but don't expect that edit command to mount anything :)  you need a "sudo mount /something" for that
[01:11] <iceman24k> !pastebin
[01:11] <starscalling> probably max is 1280x960 then
[01:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:11] <CromagDK> ATI stuff: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29
[01:11] <jbu> eyequeue: i've seen a couple of tutorials telling me to edit the file before mounting my partition
[01:11] <starscalling> select the 960 instead of the 1280x1024
[01:11] <starscalling> Distribution: testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.15-26-k7 X.Org: 7.0.0 Gnome: 2.14.3 Qt: 3.3.6 XChat: 2.4.5 Perl: 5.8.7 VGA: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1) @ 2560x960/24 bpp/50 Herz
[01:11] <starscalling> Soundcard: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04) CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP (2163.051 MHz) CPU-Cache: 512 KB RAM: 997/1010 MB Networkstats(eth0): Down: 3.7 GiB Up: 1.9 GiB Diskcapacity: 376 GB
[01:11] <Blissex> jenny_b: the non existance of the X server log is practically impossible. Ah, I mispelt it: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:11] <starscalling> see? i have to run dual 1280x960 b/c its just wierd like that
[01:11] <eyequeue> jbu, yes, but i'm tryinf to stress that an edit is not a mount command
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: what is the format of the partition you want to mount
[01:12] <fatbrain> How do I manuall install .deb files?
[01:12] <fatbrain> !deb
[01:12] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:12] <fatbrain> heh
[01:12] <jenny_b> Blissex, ok, i've got that open now...it's quite long, is there something in particular i should be looking for?
[01:12] <jbu> eyequeue: oh ok
[01:12] <fatbrain> silly me
[01:12] <iceman24k> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23929 thats my xorg.cong
[01:12] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: ntfs
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> dpkg -1 file.deb
[01:12] <eyequeue> fatbrain, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:12] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, s/1/i/ :)
[01:13] <Samuli^> people are surprisingly unaware of gdebi.
[01:13] <bmcfarli> thank you guys
[01:13] <Blissex> jenny_b: usually it tells you what's gone wrong towards the end. Error lines are prefixed with "(EE)"
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  is one of many ways
[01:13] <eyequeue> Samuli^, i see no reason for it, with dpkg :)
[01:13] <Da_FBi> I need help: Trying to use make command
[01:13] <bmcfarli> and your correct sam, sorry
[01:13] <shadox> hii guys
[01:13] <Samuli^> eyequeue, I know, but for new users.
[01:13] <shadox> i have a serious probleme and i can't find a possible solution :(
[01:13] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, no problem :)
[01:13] <jpjacobs> Da_FBi, install build-essential first
[01:14] <jenny_b> Blissex, this is the only one i got it looks like...(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[01:14] <jenny_b> 	No such file or directory.
[01:14] <Blissex> jenny_b: then everything is working all right :-).
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: you are correct
[01:14] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: i'm sorry i'm new to linux...this is a script right?
[01:14] <shadox> i can't log off my computer nomore neither cant' i reboot :s
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:14] <Da_FBi> jpjacobs: I'm a n00b
[01:14] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: i'im not sure what to do with this
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: click on file and save to your desktop
[01:14] <jenny_b> Blissex, but when i do 'fglrxinfo', it's still saying 'mesa'...and when i run glxgears, its not even moving....and everything worked _fine_ until i updated my kernel with adept
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[01:15] <Blissex> jenny_b: if it says 'mesa' then obviously the 'fglrx' driver and libraries are not properly installed.
[01:15] <jpjacobs> Da_FBi, goto synaptic, enter your passwd, hit ctrl-f, key in build-essential, select the package it comes up with, hit aply, done!
[01:15] <Blissex> jenny_b: odds are that you have to recompile the 'fglrx' kernel driver.
[01:15] <shadox> cane someone help me pls :(
[01:16] <marcagio> Anyone knows if the 3D issues with the ATI Express 200M has been resolved yet?
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: Did you set a root password?
[01:16] <jenny_b> Blissex, i've done it twice now :(  i wonder what i'm doing wrong.  i'm not getting an error message or anything.
[01:16] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: yes i did
[01:16] <linuchsan> shadox:sudo shutdown -r now
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: Bad idea...
[01:16] <Gekitsuu> Does anyone have any experience with edgy on an ibook g4?
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: Running as root user can really mess up your system/
[01:17] <ivx> what is the linux equivlant of msdos tracert
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[01:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:17] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow:  when i go to system => log off, the 2 options are disappeared :s
[01:17] <Blissex> jenny_b: no idea from here. Are you using the Ubuntu kernel and 'fglrx' drivers or the installer from ATI? If you are using the latter odds are it is not working.
[01:17] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: how to i execute it?
[01:17] <level> hallo i am totaly new to linux and i wold like to install skype in ubuntu
[01:17] <level> but how can i install a tar.gz
[01:17] <Gekitsuu> thanks
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu did you cd like I said..?
[01:17] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[01:17] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow:  had no problems till yet :s
[01:17] <Blissex> level: unpacket is somewhere under '/usr/local'
[01:17] <ivx> level there should be insturctions
[01:17] <Da_FBi> Thanks for your help!
[01:17] <Blissex> level: anyhow you can use the Skype '.deb' with ubuntu.
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: wait your turn and someone will see if it is fixable.
[01:18] <tailot> i have problem install an webcam?
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[01:18] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:18] <marcagio> Jack_Sparrow glad to see you again, I don't know if you remember me, I had problems with my 3D on my ATI video card... turned out that I found a forum where ppl were all experiencing the same problem with the 200M... :( I think no one is working on it either
[01:18] <tailot> !webcam
[01:18] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu Open a terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter
[01:19] <sess> got compiz xgl working
[01:19] <sess> seems that some of my opengl apps still run accelerated inside it :)
[01:19] <level> thanks i'l try
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> marcagio: Sorry to say .. low end ati are not a priority
[01:19] <sess> and damn does gnome look beautiful now
[01:19] <bmcfarli> jack what kind of card do you have?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia 6600 pci-e
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Mid range
[01:19] <eyequeue> sess, #ubuntu-xgl
[01:20] <tailot> could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection. <---- why?
[01:20] <Taorluath> hey does anyone here use gmailfs?
[01:20] <sess> eyequeue: Im already in there, I was just making a comment
[01:20] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: thanks a million
[01:20] <marcagio> low end ATI? I mean... it's kind of the hugest intagrated you get in a laptop... plus it uses 128Mbs sideport instead of shared memory... don't make me so sad I just wasted 1600$ on a laptop :(
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu where are you at with that?
[01:20] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: done
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[01:20] <eyequeue> sess, cool, just eanted to be sure you knew :)
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: are they on your desktop now?
[01:21] <eyequeue> !gmailfs
[01:21] <ubotu> gmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 136 kB
[01:21] <Taorluath> ja
[01:21] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: the shortcut isnt there but i can access it
[01:21] <Taorluath> it says something like, the host is wrong
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: restart x   ctrl-alt-backspace to see them on desktop
[01:22] <NET||abuse> hey, anyone know a good app to do up entity relationship diagrams?
[01:22] <starscalling> hey
[01:22] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: do that in the terminal?
[01:22] <starscalling> does anyone know if you can use all extended partitions for ubuntu??
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> close terminal...
[01:22] <starscalling> swap / and /home ??
[01:22] <starscalling> [running out of partitions on current device] 
[01:23] <eyequeue> Taorluath, i keep meaning to create an account there to send my encrypted backups to :)  (duplicity)
[01:23] <eyequeue> !info duplicity
[01:23] <ubotu> duplicity: encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-8ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 420 kB
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: ctrl-alt and backspace at the same time will kick you out of here and restart x..  you will have to log in and all that..  they will be there next time you boot
[01:23] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install desklets
[01:23] <SuperMiguel> easy?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: YOu do not need to do it now
[01:23] <Taorluath> so can u like use gmailfs to run app files and stuff?
[01:23] <eyequeue> !info gdesklets
[01:24] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[01:24] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[01:24] <bimberi> NET||abuse: dia can do it, but the best i've used is called DBDesigner (Open Source but not in Ubuntu afaik)
[01:24] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperMiguel: gdesklets
[01:24] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, you need universe first
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !gdesklets
[01:24] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:24] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, you need !info in front for the packge info
[01:24] <eyequeue> !info gdesklets
[01:24] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[01:25] <SuperMiguel> so what do i do?
[01:25] <vdepizzol> will ubuntu come with easy-xgl-instalation? :P
[01:25] <vdepizzol> *ubuntu edgy
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperMiguel: system/admin/synaptic.....
[01:25] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, do you have universe repo installed yet?
[01:25] <Taorluath> bye
[01:25] <SuperMiguel> repo?
[01:25] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: it didnt show up as a shortcut on my desktop, and i cant right click the folder and add a shortcut of it...do u know what to do?
[01:25] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install gdesklets, if so
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: take it.. I need to take 5
[01:26] <eyequeue> !repo > SuperMiguel
[01:26] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, first see if you have universe repository enabled.. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  <-- mark that command and paste it in terminal window.
[01:26] <bmcfarli> hey guys how do you compile a .run file?
[01:26] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, np my friend :)
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[01:26] <Rawplayer> arrr
[01:26] <Empty> eyequeue, HAHAHA I just went to reinstall and guess what, it did it to the livecd too... Coincident HW failure it is then. Not great but at least no mystery
[01:26] <kitche> bmcfarli: you don't those are binary
[01:26] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, the bot told you how to enable that repo if you need to, but you may have done so last week :)
[01:27] <bmcfarli> ok...so what do i do?
[01:27] <eyequeue> Empty, bad news, but i always prefer something that's diagnosed over a mystery :/
[01:27] <SuperMiguel> ok
[01:27] <SuperMiguel> source open
[01:27] <SuperMiguel> what do i look for?
[01:28] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, the word "universe" on a line, that does not begin with "#"
[01:28] <marcagio> insomniak... on s'connais?
[01:28] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, if it does begin with #, tell me
[01:28] <jbu> hey all, i'm new to linux, can someone tell me how to put a shortcut/link to my mounted windows partition on my desktop? the 'make link' option isnt there...do i need to be root or something?  and how do i do that using the file browser?
[01:28] <SuperMiguel> the source list that i have is from automatix?
[01:28] <SuperMiguel> is that fine?
[01:28] <knowledgEngi> ciao
[01:28] <knowledgEngi> c' nessuno
[01:28] <knowledgEngi> ?
[01:29] <Samuli^> it probably is, supermiguel.
[01:29] <lupine_85> SuperMiguel: hopefully ;)
[01:29] <lupine_85> !it
[01:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:29] <Samuli^> supermiguel, try "sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data"
[01:29] <SuperMiguel> ok done
[01:29] <SuperMiguel> installed
[01:29] <SuperMiguel> but :A
[01:29] <Samuli^> well, now you have it.
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> when i try to open it
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu:  Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and check volumes_visable
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> it doesnt :S
[01:30] <eyequeue> SuperMiguel, for future reference, you do have universe enabled, since that worked
[01:30] <stephen> !winetools
[01:30] <stephen> !wine
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:30] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:30] <Empty> eyequeue, Think it's still in warranty :D
[01:30] <stephen> could somebody show me how to install winetools on ubuntu, i cant find the proper repository
[01:30] <eyequeue> Empty, hehe
[01:30] <stephen> nickserv
[01:30] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, try typing gdesklets from terminal so we can see the error message.
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> People, play nice, see you all later
[01:30] <eyequeue> !info wine
[01:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[01:30] <stephen> !info wine
[01:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[01:30] <eyequeue> !info winetools
[01:30] <ubotu> Package winetools does not exist in any distro I know
[01:30] <stephen> !info winetools
[01:30] <ubotu> Package winetools does not exist in any distro I know
[01:31] <eyequeue> stephen, ^^^   wine
[01:31] <mcphail> winetools is deprecated
[01:31] <stephen> ok
[01:31] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [ ###         ] You need a recent version of PyGTK to run this program.
[01:31] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [      ###    ] 
[01:31] <stephen> is there a version of wine that has a GUI, i remember one on Knoppix a while back
[01:31] <jbu> Jack_Sparrow: actually it has already been checked
[01:32] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, well, that's odd it didn't pull the pygtk with it if it needed it.
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [ ###         ] You need a recent version of PyGTK to run this program.
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> Connecting to daemon [      ###    ] 
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> Error while starting gdesklets-deamon
[01:32] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, is your computer up-to-date?
[01:32] <stephen> eyequeue: is there a version of wine that has  a GUI?
[01:32] <marcagio> Kill Bill! Kill Bill!!! Hurray!!!! :D
[01:32] <eyequeue> stephen, no idea, i have never touched wine
[01:32] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, all updates installed?
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> wineconfig
[01:32] <ganja_> does anyone here uses dc++ ?
[01:32] <marcagio> I got drunk last week on wine
[01:32] <SuperMiguel> yep
[01:34] <stephen> anybody else here know if theres a wine with a GUI
[01:34] <SuperMiguel> what can i fo?
[01:34] <Samuli^> supermiguel, well okay.. try sudo apt-get install python-gtk2 python2.4-gtk2 python-gtk-1.2
[01:34] <mumbles> this is ammusing
[01:34] <renato> hey
[01:34] <lupine_85> winecfg
[01:34] <renato> i need help
[01:35] <renato> something happened to nicotine, and now i can't get it to open
[01:35] <ganja_> SuperMiguel, dc++ ?
[01:35] <jbu> is wireless internet access difficult in linux?
[01:35] <SuperMiguel> i did it but it doesnt connect to deamon
[01:35] <briguyd> jbu, depends on your chipset
[01:36] <eyequeue> jbu, it "just worked" for me, automatically, but some don't have that experience
[01:36] <georgy> jbu : depends on your card
[01:36] <jbu> ok
[01:36] <SuperMiguel> it says time out
[01:36] <briguyd> jbu, which card do you have?
[01:36] <eyequeue> jbu, mine was a laptop, ipw2200
[01:36] <jbu> like i have a usb adapter from compusa...i guess that's not a good thing eh?
[01:36] <renato> i was using nicotine, and for some reason i couldn't write in the rooms, so i decided to reinstall it using sudo apt-get remove nicotine and then apt-get install nicotine
[01:36] <jbu> usb wireless adapter*
[01:36] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, sudo apt-get install python-orbit? do you have that?
[01:36] <jbu> compusa brand
[01:36] <mumbles> i can see what my bro is doing on his comptuer
[01:36] <briguyd> you might get lucky
[01:37] <eyequeue> jbu, i was able to module-assistant one of those, a cheap one even :)
[01:37] <renato> and now it isn't opening
[01:37] <briguyd> ndiswrapper might work, jbu
[01:37] <jbu> ok
[01:37] <b14ck73425> hey everybody
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> yep
[01:37] <eyequeue> jbu, ~$40usd
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> i do
[01:37] <briguyd> hey b14ck73425
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: ndiswrapper should do it...
[01:37] <jbu> eyequeue: mine was 10 bucks...so i'm worried that there wont be adapters for it?
[01:37] <renato> i get this message when i try to open nicotine from a terminal
[01:37] <b14ck73425> anyone know anything about how to connect to a network computer
[01:37] <Samuli^> SuperMiguel, I don't know what you need then.
[01:37] <eyequeue> jbu, find out the chipset, then google
[01:37] <jbu> eyequeue: i'll see..
[01:37] <briguyd> jbu, with ndiswrapper, you just need the windows driver
[01:37] <renato> Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jbu: No I am not really here... I am a figment of your imagination
[01:38] <SuperMiguel> thank you any ways
[01:38] <renato> can anyone help me on this?
[01:38] <lupine_85> jbu: do you have any idea what the chipset is?
[01:38] <jbu> on what
[01:39] <jbu> lupine_85: on what
[01:39] <SiCuTDeUx> Hi!
[01:39] <jbu> lupine_85: of what, rather
[01:39] <Samuli^> supermiguel, the gdesklets are a pain anyways :)
[01:39] <lupine_85> on the usb wlan device
[01:39] <Languid> anyone know why, even though gnome-keybinding-properties understands my multimedia keys, only the volume up/down/mute buttons work, play/pause/next/stop/previous dont work in anything (amarok, totem, etc)
[01:39] <jbu> lupine_85: no i dont
[01:39] <briguyd> jbu, type lsusb into the terminal
[01:39] <SiCuTDeUx> how can i set a hot key in my gnome
[01:39] <briguyd> and find whatever looks likely to be a wireless card
[01:39] <Samuli^> SiCuTDeUx, system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts..
[01:40] <lupine_85> model number? Brand name? anything?
[01:40] <SiCuTDeUx> i want to use the wifi buttom to every time i push it reload the bcm43xx module
[01:40] <renato> anyone? please, can someone help me?
[01:40] <jbu> briguyd: zyDas 802.11b/g usb2 wifi
[01:40] <SiCuTDeUx> Samuli^: not like that
[01:40] <lupine_85> zydas should work out of the box
[01:40] <SiCuTDeUx> Samuli^: i want to use my wifi buttom
[01:41] <mumbles> Jack_Sparrow is there any way i can send a message to a ubuntu machene ? and have it pop up on the screen ?
[01:41] <briguyd> jbu, http://linux-lc100020.sourceforge.net/
[01:41] <Samuli^> SiCuTDeUx, ok, I don't know anything about that.
[01:41] <lupine_85> lsmod |grep zd and see if it shows a loaded module... if not, "sudo modprobe zd1211"
[01:41] <jbu> briguyd: thanks
[01:41] <renato> please, anyone, give me something
[01:41] <cafuego> SiCuTDeUx: I don't think the bcm43xx driver is stable enough yet to do that, even if you did find out the acpi event that enables/disbales it.
[01:41] <renato> at least a "no, i can't help u"
[01:41] <briguyd> jbu, in summary, looks pretty good for you
[01:41] <SiCuTDeUx> cafuego: spanish?
[01:42] <cafuego> SiCuTDeUx: nederlands
[01:42] <briguyd> jbu, in particualr, pay attention to the red part
[01:42] <b14ck73425> ERRSRV - ERRmsgoff what the hell is this
[01:42] <lupine_85> for(n=0;n<865;n++) {printf("no, I can't help you");};
[01:42] <Samuli^> renato, for one, It's not very cool to use kde-apps in gnome :)
[01:42] <SiCuTDeUx> cafuego: dmesg show something wen i use iit
[01:43] <jbu> briguyd: "Now it is part of the main kernel tree as of 2.6.12. "?
[01:43] <sgruber> is there a way to write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition
[01:43] <funkja> What is a good music player that has an audio library function built in besides Rythmnbox?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: Some are ok K3B  Konversation..... others simply will not work
[01:43] <lupine_85>  jbu: module zd1211
[01:43] <FluxD> xmms funkja
[01:43] <kitche> funkja: amarok banshee
[01:43] <cafuego> b14ck73425: /usr/include/linux/smbno.h:#define ERRSRV 0x02 /* Error is generated by the server network file manager.*/
[01:43] <lupine_85> is it loaded?
[01:43] <stephen> where is my wine config file located
[01:43] <renatoborghi> hey
[01:43] <b14ck73425> so what does that mean
[01:43] <renatoborghi> can anyone help me?
[01:43] <georgy> stephen : /home/user/;wine
[01:43] <b14ck73425> and how do i fix it
[01:43] <renatoborghi> i'm having a problem opening nicotine
[01:43] <b14ck73425> please :)
[01:43] <cafuego> b14ck73425: It means an erorr happened on the network file server.
[01:44] <b14ck73425> right...
[01:44] <georgy> stephen /.wine*
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> stephen: try in #winehq
[01:44] <lupine_85> hmm, in 2.6.17 it's turned into zd1211rw -- wonder what the difference is
[01:44] <briguyd> jbu, yeah, that line
[01:44] <cafuego> b14ck73425: ... for all the good that does ;-)
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !nicotine
[01:44] <b14ck73425> ERRmsgoff what does this mean
[01:44] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[01:44] <sgruber> is there a way to write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition
[01:44] <renatoborghi> for some reason, i coulnd't say anything in the rooms
[01:44] <b14ck73425> i think it means messaging is off so how would i turn it on?
[01:44] <renatoborghi> so i decided to remove and reinstall it using apt-get
[01:44] <b14ck73425> please :)
[01:45] <renatoborghi> but now i can't open it
[01:45] <jbu> briguyd: so what does that mean? it comes with the OS?
[01:45] <briguyd> supposedly, yes
[01:45] <renatoborghi> when i try to run nicotine from a console, i get this message
[01:45] <briguyd> jbu, you on ubuntu?
[01:45] <sgruber> how do I write an ubuntu boot CD to a hard drive partition
[01:45] <jbu> briguyd: yes
[01:45] <briguyd> jbu, open up the network manager and see if its listed
[01:45] <Samuli^> sgruber, what do you mean? You want to install ubuntu or.. ?
[01:46] <Languid> anyone know why, even though gnome-keybinding-properties understands my multimedia keys, only the volume up/down/mute buttons work, play/pause/next/stop/previous dont work in anything (amarok, totem, etc)?  anyone?
[01:46] <renatoborghi> renato@ubuntu:~/ Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sgruber: WHat is the purpose... It is easy to copy the data to a partition... trying to run it or install from it is another
[01:46] <stephen> anybody here have success with installing steam on wine
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> stephen: try in #winehq
[01:46] <renatoborghi> anyone knows what this means?
[01:46] <lupine_85> renatoborghi: it's dodgy source code
[01:46] <renatoborghi> and what do i have to do to make it work?
[01:46] <jrib> renatoborghi: how did you install nicotine?
[01:46] <stephen> Jack_Sparrow: nobodys there :)
[01:46] <lupine_85> learn the programming language, and hen fix it?
[01:47] <renatoborghi> using sudo apt-get install nicotine
[01:47] <lupine_85> s/hen/then
[01:47] <lupine_85> report a bug, then
[01:47] <lupine_85> !bugs
[01:47] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:47] <billybennett> was there another kernel update today?
[01:47] <jbu> briguyd: when i go to network tools/devices under wireless interface (wlan0) it doesnt show naything
[01:47] <renatoborghi> but i think the problem is that before i removed it, i was using nicotine+
[01:47] <briguyd> what do you mean "under wireless interface (wlan0)"
[01:47] <briguyd> is wlan0 there?
[01:47] <lupine_85> if wlan0 is there, the driver is loaded...
[01:47] <renatoborghi> now, i installed nicotine 1.0.8
[01:47] <jbu> i went to network device:
[01:48] <jrib> !info nicotine
[01:48] <renatoborghi> yeah, another kernel update today
[01:48] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[01:48] <jbu> briguyd: i went to network device dragdown window and went to wireless interface(wlan0)
[01:48] <jbu> briguyd: nothin
[01:48] <briguyd> jbu, if wlan0 is listed in the main area, select it and hit properties and configure it
[01:48] <eyequeue> that's a scary name for a peer-to-peer system :(
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[01:49] <renatoborghi> can anyone help me?
[01:49] <eyequeue> billybennett, yes, security
[01:49] <briguyd> eyequeue, it'll get you addicted to filesharing and slowly kill you with lawsuits
[01:49] <billybennett> eyequeue, thanks
[01:49] <Samuli^> well there's also kaffeine and codeine.
[01:49] <eyequeue> i hope everyone has a short uptime!
[01:49] <mumbles> how do i a do a wakeup on lan ?
[01:49] <Samuli^> hopefully no heroine, though :)
[01:49] <jrib> renatoborghi: maybe you can post the file to pastebin and someone can take a look
[01:49] <eyequeue> mumbles, isn't that a bios feature?
[01:49] <renatoborghi> how do i do that, jrib?
[01:50] <georgy> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:50] <jrib> renatoborghi: open up /usr/bin/nicotine in a text editor, and then make a post on the pastebin site
[01:50] <renatoborghi> ok
[01:50] <jrib> if someone has a working nicotine on dapper, it would be easy to see what is going on
[01:51] <Samuli^> or not.
[01:51] <georgy> jrib : work great for me
[01:52] <briguyd> jbu, anything?
[01:52] <mumbles> eyequeue yeh but i saw someone wakeing up a computer across the room by doing some niftey program
[01:52] <jbu> briguyd: its not, what would the first step be to detect it?
[01:52] <eyequeue> mumbles, ping? :)
[01:52] <renatoborghi> ok, can anyone take a look there?
[01:53] <renatoborghi> it's under the name Renato Nicotine problem
[01:53] <eyequeue> mumbles, i would imagine tht's all it takes, if bios-enabled
[01:53] <jrib> georgy: maybe you can help renatoborghi ?  or pastebin your version of /usr/bin/nicotine?
[01:53] <Samuli^> renatoborghi, paste the url.
[01:53] <briguyd> jbu, what is listed in that main area?
[01:53] <renatoborghi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23933
[01:53] <jbu> briguyd: just the two ethernet devices i have
[01:54] <jbu> briguyd: actually i dont even know if two are listed, but two protocols are listed
[01:54] <briguyd> eth0 and eth1, or what?
[01:54] <jbu> briguyd: eth0
[01:54] <eugman> Hey, is there a visual file vierwe so I can get a non abstract idea of what is using up my space?
[01:54] <jbu> briguyd: i think i got it working
[01:54] <briguyd> how?
[01:54] <jrib> renatoborghi: try renaming your ~/.nicotine directory
[01:55] <jbu> briguyd: the "configure" button for wireless lit up
[01:55] <FireLighter> Hey - is this where I can get help?
[01:55] <renatoborghi> what name should it have?
[01:55] <briguyd> jbu, so it works now?
[01:55] <jrib> renatoborghi: ~/.nicotine.backup
[01:55] <FireLighter> I am having major installation troubles
[01:55] <briguyd> FireLighter, yeah, help is here
[01:55] <jbu> briguyd: dunno i'm still on my wired internet
[01:55] <briguyd> ah
[01:55] <oisacx> hi guys
[01:56] <FireLighter> Great! I posted my problem on a forum, here is the link (to save space/typing!): http://forums.crosswalk.com/m_1658906/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1658906
[01:56] <renatoborghi> ok, i did that, jrib
[01:56] <renatoborghi> what now?
[01:56] <jrib> renatoborghi: now try running nicotine again
[01:56] <jbu> briguyd: no ip information is coming up though
[01:56] <oisacx> is there anyone here who have installed azureus 2.5.0.0?
[01:56] <renatoborghi> i got the same error, jrib
[01:56] <jrib> D:
[01:56] <eugman> How can I sort text file by the first column?
[01:56] <georgy> renatoborghi : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23934
[01:56] <jbu> briguyd: is there anyway to test it?
[01:57] <lupine_85> jbu: are you comfy in console?
[01:57] <briguyd> jbu, disconnect and disable eth0 or whatever and configure and enable your wireless connetion
[01:58] <renatoborghi> should i replace my file with this u posted, georgy?
[01:58] <briguyd> jbu, you should be able to do it all from the gnome network manager
[01:58] <georgy> renatoborghi : watch if is a diffrence
[01:58] <lupine_85> disabling eth0 and enabling wlan0, yes. Testing whether wlan0 is properly connected while keeping eth0 up, no ;)
[01:58] <jbu> briguyd: ok then brb
[01:58] <briguyd> FireLighter, i have no idea
[01:58] <starpause> i built mocp from source and now it crashes trying to do some iface_set_mixer_value
[01:58] <billybennett> Anyone here using gnome-network-manager for Wireless / WPA1+2 ?
[01:59] <briguyd> can someone look at FireLighter 's problem and help him?
[01:59] <amarokker> Hi, i am unable to install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu. should i ask at #kubuntu?
[01:59] <renatoborghi> is there a way to compare both?
[01:59] <FireLighter> What should I try? I just have a blank screen, when I take the disc out I am faced with windows XP as if nothing has happened
[01:59] <amarokker> I dunno. some problem with glade, and other gnome libs
[01:59] <jrib> renatoborghi: it's the same file
[01:59] <amarokker> wait, show you the error list
[01:59] <mumbles> another question - is there anyway to send a user a message via lan ?
[01:59] <eyequeue> amarokker, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    you ran that command?
[01:59] <jrib> renatoborghi: you can use a program called "diff" to compare them by the way
[01:59] <eugman> Can anyone tel me I can sort a text file based on the first column ?
[01:59] <amarokker> yeah. eyequeue
[01:59] <briguyd> amarokker, you cant "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"?
[01:59] <amarokker> oh?
[01:59] <amarokker> do'h.
[02:00] <lupine_85>  FireLighter: is this the Live CD/DVD?
[02:00] <amarokker> ok, so how am i supposed to get gnome-apps?
[02:00] <eyequeue> amarokker, yeeah, #kubuntu may have some idea, as that command should work afaik
[02:00] <jrib> renatoborghi: have you tried removing it and installing it again?
[02:00] <amarokker> install again from an ubuntu-cd? :S
[02:00] <green__saotome> when my system is booting up, i get an error message that complains about "LVM volume groups" being wrong. This stalls the boot process for about a 1-2 minutes. Any suggestions?
[02:00] <oisacx> is there anyone here who have installed azureus 2.5.0.0?
[02:00] <jrib> georgy: thanks
[02:00] <lupine_85> amarokker: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should work fine, assuming you have internet repos
[02:00] <codecaine> how can you set your network config permminant without using gui
[02:00] <FireLighter> lupine_85: yes i got it from shipit.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <renatoborghi> yeah, jrib
[02:01] <georgy> jrib: np
[02:01] <amarokker> yeah...i do- i trid with --fix-missing too. none worked yet.
[02:01] <renatoborghi> should i try erasing my .nicotine folder and reinstalling it?
[02:01] <lupine_85> FireLighter: looks like it's having problems with your graphics card. Have you tried the "safe graphics" option?
[02:01] <eyequeue> renatoborghi, mv .nicotine .nico-old
[02:01] <FireLighter> No, should i try that...I think its in the option list when you first boot.
[02:01] <stuart_> Hi, ive configured my Nvidia to run an Svideo out to  the TV but its displaying and empty desktop with empty workstations and i cant drag anything to it
[02:01] <gnomefreak> renatoborghi: deleting the ~/.nicotine file just restart the app it should generate a new one
[02:01] <eyequeue> renatoborghi, then you can get it back if desired
[02:02] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:02] <renatoborghi> thx
[02:02] <lupine_85> FireLighter: yes, it's in there somewhere. If that doesn't work, you might have to grab an alternative installation CD and do it from there instead :(
[02:02] <FireLighter> Okay! THanks a lot, I'll try it!!
[02:02] <lupine_85> IME the desktop installer is less robust
[02:03] <stuart_> does anyone know how to help me with the svideo
[02:03] <renatoborghi> but both /usr/bin/nicotine files look the same
[02:03] <renatoborghi> so that's probably not the problem
[02:03] <lhds> guys with linux and firefox i lost to toolbar in my hotmail account the one that changes colors and fonts. how to get it back?
[02:03] <lmosher> Anyone know if the nvidia quatro (in a laptop) has 3d working in linux? I'd wager the go 6xxxx or 7xxxx's would work fine, but I was wondering about the quatro b/c I saw a good deal on a latitude D820
[02:04] <rukuartic> Hey there, I think i've installed a few packages that have broken my system, but I can't remember which ones I've downloaded. How would I go and purge all packges not from the Ubuntu Supported Repositories?
[02:04] <lupine_85> rukuartic: this isn't Gentoo ;). TBH I think you've got problems
[02:05] <lupine_85> how did you install them?
[02:05] <rukuartic> lupine_85: Apt-get... I think some of it is xgl/compiz stuff.
[02:05] <Flannel> rukuartic: restore your sources.list to official stuff, then in synaptic, they'll be listed under the 'local or obsolete' section (assuming you used debs to install them)
[02:05] <renatoborghi> ok, nothing worked
[02:05] <renatoborghi> i have no idea why this nicotine isn't working
[02:05] <rukuartic> Flannel: Thanks! :: checks::
[02:06] <renatoborghi> it's strange. cause the error i'm getting is File "/usr/bin/nicotine", line 146, in ?    app = frame.MainApp(config) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
[02:07] <JoaoJoao> hello
[02:07] <renatoborghi> but this line 146 is exactly the same as in the /usr/bin/nicotine file georgy posted
[02:07] <jrib> renatoborghi: follow the rabbit, go see how frame.MainApp is defined
[02:08] <renatoborghi> and how do i do that, jrib?
[02:08] <starpause> renatoborghi, why are you using old nicotine? try mucous and museek+
[02:08] <rukuartic> Flannel: Let me try out my problem, it might sound familiar. As long as I play a video from VLC, it plays fine. But as soon as I try to use something like mplayer or totem, everything goes psychadelic colors. Framerate and audio are fine though...
[02:08] <lupine_85> mmmmm backtraces, lol
[02:08] <jrib> renatoborghi: you'd have to go read the file with the pynicotine.gtkgui module
[02:08] <lupine_85> rukuartic: he's modified init so that it takes two, instead of three, arguments (IIUI)
[02:09] <rukuartic> lupine_85: Hrrm?
[02:09] <marcagio> how can I add Sound to wine?
[02:09] <Samuli^> hehe, now you have to start learning how to code in order to use ubuntu? :)
[02:09] <lupine_85> erm, sorry. that was @renatoborghi!
[02:09] <lupine_85> it should be an entry requirement ;)
[02:10] <renatoborghi> and how do i do that, lupine_85 and jrib?
[02:10] <renatoborghi> where is this pynicotine.gtkgui module?
[02:10] <Samuli^> linux for human beings, well.. they do code, not all of them.. but some. hmm.
[02:10] <Samuli^> :D
[02:10] <jrib> renatoborghi: try 'locate pynicotine.gtkgui'
[02:10] <renatoborghi> nothing happened
[02:11] <renatoborghi> i got no result
[02:11] <Samuli^> that's because locate isn't up-to-date
[02:11] <riddick> anyone have a good link for xgl howto?  i have tried a couple via google and they seemed to fail.  i am running LTS Ubuntu with an nvidia card.
[02:11] <lupine_85> find / -name <blah> ?
[02:11] <georgy> !xgl
[02:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:11] <lupine_85> will take ages, though
[02:11] <marcagio> is there a way to get my sound working on Wine anyone?
[02:11] <Samuli^> yeah, find -name foo.
[02:11] <renatoborghi> hahaha
[02:12] <riddick> Thank you
[02:12] <Samuli^> I think find defaults to root if no directory is specified.
[02:12] <renatoborghi> i got lots of "permission denied", lupine_85
[02:12] <jrib> renatoborghi: find
[02:12] <mr_hus> what's the easiest way to connect to a wireless network using WPA-PSK?
[02:12] <lupine_85> yes, you will
[02:12] <renatoborghi> i'll run sudo this time
[02:12] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[02:12] <rpalkovic> Hello everyone!
[02:12] <jrib> renatoborghi: find /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -name whatever_that)thing_was
[02:12] <lupine_85> mr_hus: depends on the wireless card ;)
[02:13] <rpalkovic> Wanted to share the following, then ask a question...
[02:13] <rukuartic> mr_hus: Can you connect to non secured networks to begin with?
[02:13] <lupine_85> the standard method is wpa_supplicant but not all cards support it
[02:13] <renatoborghi> no response, jrib
[02:13] <eugman> Anyone know how to setup clamassassin?
[02:14] <jrib> renatoborghi: find /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -name '*pynicotine.gtkgui*'
[02:14] <mr_hus> rukuartic: i dont think i tried
[02:14] <rpalkovic> I've been a loyal windows user for - well, too damn long.  I finally made the switch to Linux via Ubuntu, and the only place windows exists anymore is in a virtual machine, and only to use ms money.  Let me tell you - I've been loving it!
[02:14] <lhds> anyone knows if opera can access hotmail account and read emails?
[02:14] <mr_hus> rukuartic: i thought seeing networks was already a proof that it was working heh
[02:14] <rukuartic> mr_hus: Most definately something to try first :)
[02:14] <renatoborghi> no response again, jrib
[02:14] <lupine_85> mr_hus: not quite
[02:14] <rukuartic> rpalkovic: :D Welcome to the society.
[02:14] <kitche> lhds: umm yeah it's just a browser unless you mean to use pop3
[02:14] <jrib> renatoborghi: hmm do 'sudo updatedb' and try locate again I guess
[02:14] <lupine_85> some drivers are broken in some respects
[02:15] <rpalkovic> thanks rukuartic
[02:15] <lupine_85> what driver are you using?
[02:15] <Samuli^> renatoborghi, do sudo locate -u & locate whatyouweretryingto.find
[02:15] <mr_hus> i have no idea, i have a fresh ubuntu install
[02:15] <rpalkovic> I know JUST enough to get myself into trouble, so I figured I'd ask for help here since I havn't found any conclusive answer via googling...
[02:15] <mr_hus> my wireless card is based on an Atheros chip
[02:15] <renatoborghi> i tried that and it didn't work again, jrib
[02:16] <lupine_85> mr_hus: it'll work with wpasupplicant fine, then
[02:16] <kitche> rpalkovic: have you tried the ubuntu tutorial
[02:16] <lupine_85> !wpasupplicant
[02:16] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB
[02:16] <rpalkovic> I wasn't really planning on making the switch when I partitioned my hard drive, so now I've got 15 gigs of unallocated space on /dev/hda
[02:16] <rpalkovic> a needs to be deleted partition on /dev/hda5
[02:16] <jrib> renatoborghi: I don't know then
[02:16] <renatoborghi> i got this answer now, Samuli^
[02:16] <renatoborghi> [1]  7009
[02:16] <rpalkovic> and my ubuntu boot partition on /dev/hda6
[02:17] <rpalkovic> and a swap partition
[02:17] <rpalkovic> at /dev/hda7
[02:17] <Samuli^> renatoborghi, ask the coder guys what do with that info :)
[02:17] <renatoborghi> ok, thx
[02:17] <renatoborghi> jrib, i got this info now
[02:17] <rpalkovic> i need to move /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1, delete the other non swap partitions, and extend the /dev/hda1 partition to the full size of the disk.
[02:17] <renatoborghi> [1]  7009
[02:18] <rpalkovic> i'm trying to use GParted to do all this - but because /dev/hda6 is mounted, i can't delete /dev/hda5
[02:18] <rpalkovic> and even if I could - i have NO idea how to switch the boot partition from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1 once the move occurs.
[02:18] <lupine_85> rpalkovic: best to do it from a Live CD
[02:19] <rpalkovic> i tried that too - the live CD had no access to the partitions
[02:19] <rpalkovic> i couldn't even unmount /dev/hda5
[02:19] <lupine_85> ...it wouldn't be mounted in the first place...
[02:19] <lupine_85> changing your boot partition is easy enough - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and replace all the hda6 with hda1
[02:19] <rpalkovic> that's what I thought - but it was
[02:19] <lupine_85> make a backup first, though :)
[02:20] <rpalkovic> ahhh, that's awesome
[02:20] <rpalkovic> as for my drives being mounted - i didn't think they should be either...  is there a special way I should have booted from the live cd?
[02:20] <jrib> renatoborghi: oops, my fault you should have just searched for pynicotine and then gone to gtkgui/frame.py
[02:21] <renatoborghi> ahhhhhhhh
[02:21] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:21] <detectiveinspekt> is there a gnome pannel prog that allows me to see different time zones?
[02:21] <detectiveinspekt> adding another clock uses the same computer clock
[02:21] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:21] <renatoborghi> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:21] <renatoborghi> here it is
[02:21] <renatoborghi> what do i do with it?
[02:22] <jrib> renatoborghi: md5sum /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:22] <renatoborghi> 2ec81a0d565332db085a9a3ceea3ccf1  /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:23] <jrib> renatoborghi: interesting, you got a different md5sum than the one I got from the downloaded deb on packages.ubuntu.com... can you pastebin that file?
[02:23] <renatoborghi> file  /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py?
[02:23] <renatoborghi> wait a sec
[02:23] <jrib> renatoborghi: yep
[02:25] <rpalkovic> kitche: I didn't look at the tutorial, but i know enough *nix commands to get around, and then google and ubuntuforums helped with anything I couldn't figure out on my own.
[02:25] <aszurom> Is it just me, or does the default implementation of VNC server in ubuntu's remote desktop bite?
[02:25] <kitche> !xgl
[02:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:25] <mumbles> im off to bed
[02:25] <raxor> hi all, how do i set an environment var?
[02:25] <aszurom> here on my lan, I can't get much of a decent update rate on the screen
[02:25] <renatoborghi> it's there, jrib
[02:26] <raxor> that can be accessed from a perl script: eg. $ENV{SOURCE_ROOT}
[02:26] <jrib> renatoborghi: url?
[02:26] <aszurom> I'd like to trade it in for TightVNC which works marvelously, but Tightvnc says there's already a VNC service running on display 0... which would be the default VNC but I can't fathom how do disable it
[02:26] <rpalkovic> lupine_85: is there a specific way I should boot from the live CD in order to not mount existing partitions?
[02:26] <renatoborghi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23937
[02:27] <lupine_85> rpalkovic: is it swap?
[02:27] <lupine_85> (the partition that's getting mounted)
[02:27] <rpalkovic> all of them mount
[02:27] <rpalkovic> on hda and hdc
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Night all....
[02:28] <georgy> Jack_Sparrow : night
[02:28] <lupine_85> gah, that's got to be annoying. It really shouldn't do that
[02:28] <rpalkovic> night JS
[02:28] <renatoborghi> c ya Jack_Sparrow
[02:28] <lupine_85> can you sudo umount them?
[02:28] <kitche> rpalkovic: think the command is before it boots maybe ubuntu nomount
[02:28] <jrib> renatoborghi: yeah, you've got the wrong file in there for some reason.  There are a lot of differences, so we are going to try to get at the root of the problem instead of patching this error...  Do this 'sudo apt-get --purge remove nicotine'
[02:29] <rpalkovic> Thought about sudo umount, but gparted is running as sudo so I didn't try it
[02:29] <riddlebox> why would ndiswrapper use eth1 most of the time for my wireless but once in a while it uses wlan0?
[02:29] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:29] <renatoborghi> what does this --purge means?
[02:29] <rpalkovic> kitche: how would I manage that?
[02:29] <aszurom> is it Vino I have to dump to get VNC server off display 0?
[02:30] <finalbeta> renatoborghi, remove config files
[02:30] <riddlebox> usually purge means to delete
[02:30] <renatoborghi> ok
[02:30] <renatoborghi> thx
[02:30] <rpalkovic> instead of booting to nautilus, boot to to a cmd and then run it?
[02:30] <CromagDK> i've been readin a bit, i am looking for an answer regarding change of size of my boot partition. Gparted, is there a risc it will corrupt data somehow when changing size ?
[02:30] <renatoborghi> and now what do i do, jrib?
[02:30] <renatoborghi> reinstall it?
[02:30] <jrib> renatoborghi: now, type this: ls /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:30] <kitche> rpalkovic: well it's should be at the beginning of the cd before you get into ubuntu
[02:30] <finalbeta> CromagDK, resising is always a risk
[02:30] <finalbeta> be sure to make proper backups
[02:30] <sureshot> ok once again what is that program name that used 2 monitors as one desktop and ware can i get get
[02:30] <rpalkovic> alright - i'll see what I can find.  thanks for the help, I'll let you know how it goes :)
[02:30] <CromagDK> finalbeta: ok :( sadly
[02:31] <rpalkovic> adios for now, wish me luck!
[02:31] <jrib> !xinerama
[02:31] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[02:31] <georgy> sureshot : xinerama
[02:31] <renatoborghi> renato@ubuntu:~$ ls /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:31] <jrib> renatoborghi: dpkg -S /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine/gtkgui/frame.py
[02:32] <aszurom> sheesh...
[02:32] <lufis> Can I use a laptop drive on a desktop?
[02:32] <renatoborghi> not found, jrib
[02:32] <lupine_85> lufis: not usually
[02:32] <aszurom> I got :0 freed up, but it doesn't actually display my desktop... it fires up its own X session
[02:33] <lupine_85> depends on the connector, though
[02:33] <lufis> lupine_85: :( why?
[02:33] <lupine_85> many laptops have non-standard cabling to the drive
[02:33] <lufis> lupine_85: aw, sux
[02:33] <lupine_85> it's all IDE/SATA in the end, but good luck getting it plugged in
[02:33] <Lxnash> where can i find info on how to configure my wireless card?
[02:33] <lupine_85> still, worth a try... you might get lucky
[02:33] <lupine_85> !wifi
[02:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:33] <georgy> !wireless
[02:33] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok then and please be very careful not to make a type, sudo rm -r /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pynicotine
[02:33] <bimberi> aszurom: you've disabled the Remote Desktop?
[02:34] <lufis> lupine_85: i think the hardest part is actually getting the laptop open... it's got tiny torq screws and i don't have a torq screwdriver
[02:34] <renatoborghi> ok, it's done
[02:34] <aszurom> bimberi, yes
[02:34] <lupine_85> hammer +  chisel works :)
[02:34] <aszurom> the remote desktop that is installed by default (vino) doesn't do well at all for me
[02:34] <lufis> lupine_85: ha, i might resort to that if push comes to shove :-p
[02:35] <aszurom> on a 100mbit lan, it doesn't refresh the screen correctly and I can't figure out why
[02:35] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok, apt-cache policy nicotine, on pastebin please
[02:35] <caliban> plz help me to my cdrom, i do anythings, but nothing :( plzzzz
[02:35] <aszurom> if I move a window, only parts of it will update
[02:35] <aszurom> but Tightvnc works great
[02:35] <kitche> aszurom: might be that program
[02:35] <bimberi> aszurom: but it was running?  i think the process remains if it was once running.  do a <alt>F2 and run a 'killall vino-server' command
[02:36] <renatoborghi> it's a small response, can't i paste it here jrib?
[02:36] <jrib> renatoborghi: if it is less than 3 lines
[02:36] <aszurom> it's pretty dead
[02:36] <renatoborghi> it is
[02:36] <aszurom> but it still doesn't show my actual running gnome desktop
[02:36] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok, you've wasted 2 already though :P
[02:36] <aszurom> it fires up a new X session to show me
[02:37] <bimberi> aszurom: yes :|
[02:37] <renatoborghi> nicotine:  Instalado: (nenhum)  Candidatos: 1.0.8rc1-1.1  Tabela de Verso: 1.0.8rc1-1.1 0   500 http://br.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[02:37] <aszurom> can I not get it to show me the current in-use desktop?
[02:37] <jrib> renatoborghi: ok go ahead and do 'sudo apt-get install nicotine'
[02:37] <renatoborghi> great
[02:38] <bimberi> aszurom: there possibly is, but i don't personally know.  vino-server has usually worked ok for that when i've needed it
[02:38] <renatoborghi> YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
[02:38] <renatoborghi> man, thx a lot
[02:38] <jrib> renatoborghi: np
[02:38] <picasso> ok im back! im trying to get my networks to show up under network-manager-gnome. just upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06
[02:38] <georgy> jrib : good job !
[02:38] <picasso> has anyone had a problem with network-manager-gnome applet not showing network interfaces?
[02:38] <renatoborghi> i wouldn't be able to do this alone
[02:38] <picasso> im not seeing any of them
[02:38] <aszurom> yeah, vino it's so slow as to be worthless, and I can't understand why
[02:39] <codecaine> im trying to get xgl to work when I try to do compiz I get this error
[02:39] <codecaine> gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[02:39] <codecaine> compiz.real: No composite extension
[02:39] <aszurom> it's not like the two boxes aren't right next to each other
[02:40] <codecaine> any ideals?
[02:41] <Samuli^> nope, none.
[02:41] <renatoborghi> ok, ppl, thx for the help
[02:41] <renatoborghi> c ya all later
[02:41] <Samuli^> codecaine, seriously though, #ubuntu-xgl
[02:41] <foo> I am ssh'd into a box .. and I do this ... I want to do X forwarding, but it's not working. hm = $ vncviewer Error: Can't open display:  ..  Any ideas?
[02:41] <sess> !loki
[02:41] <ubotu> loki: [Biology]  MCMC linkage analysis on general pedigrees. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7.4-1 (dapper), package size 332 kB, installed size 824 kB
[02:42] <sess> !loki installer
[02:42] <burns2> hi! i install the nvidia driver by automatix but 1024 option to screeen resolution is not activate! i need fiz it!
[02:42] <sess> Why is it that the loki installer doesn't install shortcuts into my gnome menu?  additionally, I just installed crossover office, and its menu doesn't show up in my gnome session either
[02:42] <sess> !crossover office
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <J-_> what do i need to download to view java applets in mozilla web browser?
[02:44] <caliban> plz help me to my cdrom, i do anythings, but nothing :( plzzzz
[02:44] <jrib> !java > J-_
[02:45] <jrib> !fixres > burns2
[02:45] <burns2> yep?
[02:45] <jrib> burns2: ubotu should have sent you some info in a private message
[02:45] <burns2> ok
[02:45] <burns2> i'll try
[02:45] <aszurom> Just FYI - I cured my issue by installing x11vnc
[02:46] <aszurom> it does exactly what realVNC does in windows
[02:46] <aszurom> serves up the running X display
[02:47] <dxy> is there a gcc package in the first cd of ubuntu?
[02:47] <TheReconHunter> Hey, i got a bit of a noobish question
[02:47] <TheReconHunter> anyone wanna help out?
[02:47] <npodges> !ask
[02:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:47] <bretzel> Hi there!:-) How can I get the graphical VGA font set into the console (frame buffer/or normal text mode ) I am unable to display things like box ??
[02:48] <jrib> dxy: I *think* all of the cd's had build-essential (which pulls in gcc) on them
[02:48] <TheReconHunter> Aight. In AmaroK, I somehow got rid of the file menu by accidentally clicking in one of the tabs. Can anyone find out how to fix it?
[02:48] <Samuli^> jrib, They don't.
[02:48] <bretzel> I mean there is NO such charset to draw the box, or other characters into the console
[02:49] <Samuli^> jrib, remember, this is a distro for human beings :)
[02:49] <dxy> jrib: is it a builtin command  to grab the source and install?
[02:49] <TheReconHunter> can someone help me? There should be a shortcut in amarok in the first or second tab to minimize the files
[02:49] <lupine_85> dxy: to do that, you do apt-get source --compile <package>
[02:49] <TheReconHunter> *file menu
[02:49] <jrib> Samuli^: well I know hoary, breezy, dapper, and edgy do.  Did warty not have it?  I know it isn't installed by default, but it's available on the cd
[02:49] <Flannel> TheReconHunter: you might try asking in #kubuntu
[02:50] <Samuli^> jrib, I don't think dapper does, did breezy?
[02:51] <TheReconHunter> gr...
[02:51] <bretzel> sh&^t! the "dialog" command line does something to the terminal to be able to display those graph charset ...
[02:51] <TheReconHunter> its something pretty easy to fix, i just cant find the command
[02:51] <Flannel> Samuli^: Dapper does
[02:51] <Samuli^> There isn't even a line to point out to CD in dapper sources.list, at least not in the 'default' live/install cd.
[02:52] <Flannel> Samuli^: that's because the liveCD can't be used as a repository, only the alternate
[02:52] <gnomefreak> hoary adn newer have build-essential on the cd (not installed by default)
[02:52] <foo> What's a really lightweight manager like gdm ?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> as in you can use the cdrom repo to install it
[02:52] <eyequeue> .join #ubuntu-meeting
[02:52] <gnomefreak> manager for what?
[02:53] <kitche> foo: xdm if you mean display manager
[02:53] <picasso> Anybody know why network-manager (installed w/ apt-get after upgrading 5.10 -> 6.06) would not show any network interfaces? im trying to get WPA wifi working
[02:53] <Samuli^> flannel, so it's pretty much that dapper doesn't have build-essential on the cd (assuming the default most users use)
[02:53] <foo> kitche: ah, yeah, that, thanks
[02:54] <PseudoPlacebo> How do I install OpenSSL on Ubuntu.
[02:54] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, with synaptic
[02:54] <Flannel> Samuli^: right.  the DEsktop CD doesn't have anything on it except what is installed by default, as it isn't a repository.
[02:54] <georgy> !openssl
[02:54] <PseudoPlacebo> Without a stupid pussy way.
[02:54] <ubotu> openssl: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 952 kB, installed size 2268 kB
[02:54] <chuckyp> TheReconHunter, whats your problem?
[02:54] <kitche> PseudoPlacebo: sudo apt-get install openssl
[02:55] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, what do you mean with out a stupid easy way?
[02:55] <TheReconHunter> With amaroK, i made all hte file menus disappear, and i just need someone to help me find a way to get em back
[02:55] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, then download the source and build it if you don't want to use synaptic
[02:55] <PseudoPlacebo> chuckyp:  I want to use apt.
[02:55] <Flannel> TheReconHunter: #kubuntu would be a better place to ask, probably
[02:55] <Sembiance> Hi Ubuntu peopls!
[02:55] <Sembiance> err peoples rofl
[02:55] <chuckyp> TheReconHunter, perhaps you should ask in #kubuntu
[02:55] <PseudoPlacebo> Namely because I'm working straight from a command line via SSH.
[02:55] <Flannel> PseudoPlacebo: so, use apt.  It's the same thing, synaptic is merey a frontend. apt-cache search to find it, then apt-get install
[02:55] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, then sudo apt-get install openssl
[02:55] <Deaigo> i have made a .de
[02:55] <Deaigo> b
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> im trying, but not much luck
[02:56] <Deaigo> where can i put it so others dont have to go throught this pain in the ass install process?
[02:56] <chuckyp> PseudoPlacebo, you can find packages with apt-get  by apt-cache search packagename
[02:56] <TheReconHunter> theyre saying "oh just b/c we use Kubuntu doesnt mean we use amaroK"
[02:56] <Sembiance> I'm a developer, and I've been using Linux for years, but always as a server. I'm ready now to change my workstation to a Linux machine now and will be doing things like writing code, listening to music, watching videos, etc. I've tried Gentoo in the past but I hate how long it takes to compile things and how you have to work so hard to get your hardware to work.
[02:56] <chuckyp> TheReconHunter, there may also be an amarok channel
[02:57] <Sembiance> So I'm looking at ubuntu to ease the 'make my hardware work' pain
[02:57] <chuckyp> Sembiance, try using the live cd see if it fits your needs
[02:57] <Sembiance> However I'm worried that ubuntu might be too easy? By that I mean, will I be able to download the latest source code for things like PHP and what not and isntall them?
[02:57] <krazykit> Sembiance: you must've done something wrong if you had problems getting your hardware working in gentoo.  it's simply a matter of know what you have.  ubuntu makes it easy by having all the modules compiled and ready for you
[02:57] <chuckyp> Deaigo, so other on your system can install it?
[02:57] <Sembiance> How do source installed packages conflict with ubuntu?
[02:58] <krazykit> Sembiance: they don't.  you can make deb packages yourself
[02:58] <chuckyp> Sembiance, yes you can always install from source
[02:58] <b14ck73425> hey again
[02:58] <Deaigo> chuckyp i mean so someone can type apt-get install btg
[02:58] <Sembiance> krazykit: I never had 'problems' per se, as lspci -v always works well and then just compile a kernel. but it's always a big pain and takes time
[02:58] <chuckyp> Deaigo, hrm... well I have no idea on how to get a package added to the repos
[02:58] <krazykit> Sembiance: meh, only the first time :-p
[02:58] <Deaigo> Sembiance ubuntu is fine.... it is easy yes. but unlike fedora and other projects ubuntu allows you to have real fun with the system ;)
[02:59] <Sembiance> Hrm...
[02:59] <Flannel> Deaigo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:59] <chuckyp> Sembiance, like I say you can always try the live cd and see if you don't like it just try another live cd.
[02:59] <Sembiance> krazykit, chuckyp, Deaigo: Thank you very much for your help and answering my questions :)
[02:59] <kitche> Sembiance: you just have to install the developer tools since they don't get installed by default
[02:59] <Sembiance> I was afraid I'd ask my question and nobody would respond ;)
[02:59] <chuckyp> Sembiance, however to be able to install from source you would need gcc etc...  I would recomend installing the build-essential package
[03:00] <krazykit> Sembiance: ubuntu's build environment is easy enough to set up.  i compile things now and again and have never had problems
[03:01] <chuckyp> Deaigo, if you check out that motu link they may have information there about requesting that a package be added
[03:01] <Sembiance> Well maybe I should rethink what I want my workstation to be. Installing PHP server on it probably isn't the best use of the machine since I already have some machines in my apartment that act as 'servers' doing that sort of thing. Right now I just map to them as a samba drive and then just develop things that way. However when writing C code, debugginng via GDB becomes tiresome so I'd like to switch to linux and embrace it
[03:01] <georgy> !e17
[03:01] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:01] <Deaigo> chuckyp reading now
[03:01] <Sembiance> So yah, I'll need the developer tools for sure, as gcc I'll need, etc. But maybe not some other things
[03:01] <Deaigo> Sembiance i run ubuntu... at my amtes place
[03:02] <Deaigo> it has gnome running and what not
[03:02] <caliban> plz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  	/mnt/cdrom  	iso9660  	ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , ele esta dando erro de block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ
[03:02] <Deaigo> but i shh in to do everything i need
[03:02] <Deaigo> ssh*
[03:02] <chuckyp> Sembiance, well you can install them one by one etc.. build-essential is a meta package that installs some common compilers
[03:02] <Sembiance> If I install say the very latest version of something like libxml (because maybe the latest isn't available in ubuntu as a package) will that conflict with ubuntu packages?
[03:02] <caliban> plz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  	/mnt/cdrom  	iso9660  	ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , erro = block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ
[03:02] <chuckyp> Sembiance, no you can completely control holding packages back etc... for the updates
[03:02] <Sembiance> krazykit: That's good to know
[03:02] <Deaigo> Sembiance could uninstall using apt-get first if its a worry
[03:03] <kitche> Sembiance: nope unless a package brings in libxml but you can always make a deb for your package so you can install it anytime
[03:03] <Sembiance> Deaigo: When I've done stuff like that in the past with redhat or gentoo the dependencies are usually a real pain
[03:03] <Deaigo> Sembiance tell me about it
[03:03] <Sembiance> How up to date is the package system for Ubuntu? How does it compare with things like Gentoo?
[03:03] <Samuli^> doesn't redhat use rpm's?
[03:03] <Deaigo> its alright...
[03:04] <Deaigo> imo gentoo leads in package management
[03:04] <chuckyp> Sembiance, well there are extra repositories are always an option.
[03:04] <Deaigo> Sembiance well it only had libtorrent 8.2 :/
[03:04] <chuckyp> Sembiance, like I say your best bet would be just to boot to the livecd and check it out.
[03:04] <Flannel> Sembiance: ubuntu freezes versions each release
[03:04] <Sembiance> I just don't want to get stuck in 8 months and realize that I'm not able to tweak or change something in my ubuntu system because it's not meant to handle that? Ubuntu doesn't lock people out totally from doing certain things does it?
[03:05] <Flannel> Sembiance: nope
[03:05] <Sembiance> chuckyp: Ok cool, I have ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso downloaded. Is that what I need to burn and try out?
[03:05] <kitche> Sembiance: well it locks you into sudo
[03:05] <Samuli^> even if it does freeze versions, there's 3rd party repositories and backports though.
[03:05] <chuckyp> Sembiance, absolutely not
[03:05] <Deaigo> Sembiance gentoo users have switched to ubuntu(and this was before the GUI installer)_
[03:05] <joebu23> i ran into a problem i am hoping someone can help me with
[03:05] <georgy> !ask
[03:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:05] <chuckyp> Sembiance, yeah just burn it and make sure your computer is set to boot to cd... and you will be able to select live cd from the menu.
[03:05] <Deaigo> i used to be a real critic of ubuntu untill i actually used it
[03:06] <Deaigo> Sembiance use the alternative install disc
[03:06] <kitche> ubuntu runs slow on my system at least the net does
[03:06] <joebu23> i just upgraded my kernel today to 2.6.15-27 and now my pcmcia network card is not recognized by the system
[03:06] <chuckyp> Deaigo, I don't believe he can run the live cd from the alternate iso
[03:06] <Deaigo> i was just saying use it
[03:06] <georgy> chuckyp : that's right
[03:07] <Sembiance> And will ubuntu just automatically find my NVIDIA GeForce 6600, enable hardware acceleration, work with my USB mouse and keyboard (including scroll wheel on mouse), my Audigy 2 sound card? etc?
[03:07] <kitche> oh yeah sethk are you around I fixed my problem that I was having
[03:07] <caliban> plz, my fstab is /dev/hdd  	/mnt/cdrom  	iso9660  	ro,defaults,noauto,user 0 0 , erro = block hdd, write protect, i dont wat i've to do anymore, i tryed anything, i tryed ln, change fstab, etc, and nobody help me :(( PLZ
[03:07] <chuckyp> Sembiance, well the nvidia part is a little tricky since their drivers aren't open source
[03:07] <Flannel> Sembiance: automatically? no.  within a few commands? yes.
[03:07] <kitche> Sembiance: you will have to install the nvidia drivers to have hardware acceleration
[03:07] <Samuli^> Sembiance, all but enable acceleration for opengl I think.
[03:07] <b0ysc0ut> im trying to do a chmod on a folder..but it keeps tellin me access denied..anybody?
[03:07] <chuckyp> Sembiance, but the nvidia drivers are easy to install or you can install the nvidia-glx package to add the free ones
[03:07] <Flannel> Sembiance: there's a hardware compat section on the wiki, if you want to double check
[03:07] <devnull> hello .. i am trying to get my wireless working correctly .... i can get onto WEP secured networks with a passphrase but I can not get onto networks that do not has a passphrase
[03:07] <Deaigo> Sembiance hmmm not sure but it should... but there are toutorials in the forums on how to do nvidia drivers
[03:07] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: which folder you looking to chmod?
[03:07] <chuckyp> b0ysc0ut, which folder?
[03:08] <devnull> in Elive i just pick the network and it connects .... in ubuntu i can't connect to any un-passphrased wireless networks
[03:08] <georgy> b0ysc0ut : sudo chmod ?
[03:08] <b0ysc0ut> its on the filysystem
[03:08] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: which folder?
[03:08] <b0ysc0ut> sudo..mm..dint think bout that
[03:08] <Deaigo> Sembiance you could always just settle for debian ;)
[03:08] <Sembiance> Flannel: cool   (/me heads to google to look for the wiki address)
[03:08] <chuckyp> Sembiance, or you can download the binary from the nvidia sight.  but the wiki addresses all of this
[03:08] <chuckyp> !tell Sembiance about wiki
[03:08] <crogue5> oh
[03:09] <b0ysc0ut> /usr/share/icons/gnome
[03:09] <krazykit> Deaigo: debian is hardly settling.  both debian and ubuntu are excellent systems
[03:09] <rorr> b0ysc0ut: don't do any sudo chmod without thinking first...
[03:09] <b0ysc0ut> thats the folder..
[03:09] <Flannel> Sembiance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:09] <Sembiance> Flannel: thanks :)
[03:09] <georgy> b0ysc0ut : then sudo
[03:09] <Sembiance> Deaigo, Flannel, kitche, chuckyp: Thank you all for your help, I really appreciate it :)
[03:09] <chuckyp> Sembiance, np
[03:09] <b0ysc0ut> im tryin to put a new icon in that folder..but i dont have permision to write on it..so it would be -r?
[03:09] <kitche> hmm I should try and speed up my networking on my ubuntu system
[03:09] <i4get2> lol
[03:10] <Flannel> b0ysc0ut: just copy it with sudo.  don't chmod it
[03:10] <Sanne> Sembiance: there's also an online packages database, if you want to have a look at versions etc: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <chuckyp> Sembiance, there are always people around here helping out
[03:10] <georgy> b0ysc0ut : sudo cp -r
[03:10] <rorr> b0ysc0ut: sudo cp your_icon /usr/share/icons/gnome/
[03:10] <Deaigo> Sembiance ah well tell us what OS you end up with
[03:10] <devnull> does anyone know any particular documentation i need since i have gone though the wiki already and i know my card can connect to any network because i use the same driver in Elive which works fine
[03:10] <b0ysc0ut> mm lets try that
[03:10] <voraistos> hey people. Hope youre not screwing your box too bad ;)
[03:10] <joebu23> anyone know why my pcmcia network card would stop working after an update today to 2.6.15-27?
[03:11] <Sembiance> Does ubuntu install a certain window manager (like gnome or fluxbox or kde?)
[03:11] <voraistos> yes
[03:11] <Deaigo> Sembiance gnome
[03:11] <voraistos> gnome
[03:11] <georgy> Sembiance : yes  gnome
[03:11] <krazykit> Sembiance: Ubuntu is Gnome, Kubuntu is KDE, and Xubuntu is xfce.
[03:11] <voraistos> lol
[03:11] <voraistos> cant be more clear
[03:11] <krazykit> Sembiance: though i'm a fan of xubuntu + e17 >_>
[03:12] <wubrgamer> no no no
[03:12] <Samuli^> gnome isn't a window manager.
[03:12] <wubrgamer> ubuntu comes installed with METACITY
[03:12] <wubrgamer> geez
[03:12] <devnull> hehe
[03:12] <krazykit> wubrgamer: yeah, unfortunately
[03:12] <kitche> gnome is part of metacity since it's a gnome project :)
[03:12] <caliban> anyone use ubuntu 5.10?
[03:12] <Samuli^> well, enter compiz and all is well :)
[03:12] <Sembiance> In the past I've used Fluxbox on my servers, but I'm going to need things like desktop icons and file explorers, etc. So I'll probably need to go with Gnome or KDE or XFCE.
[03:12] <krazykit> caliban: yes...
[03:12] <Samuli^> although anything is better than metacity :)
[03:13] <Sembiance> I last used gnome and KDE several years aog, and back then I remember both were really bloated (KDE more so) but Gnome was kind of cludgy, ugly and a bit of the underdog
[03:13] <caliban> krazykit, why?
[03:13] <rpalkovic> No luck.
[03:13] <voraistos> hey i gat some trouble. On none of my Boxes (all running Ubuntu of course :) ) alacarte is working. Dont understand why i cant edit damn menus ?!
[03:13] <krazykit> caliban: oh, present tense?  no.  i've used it.
[03:13] <Samuli^> KDE 4 is going to be sweeeeet. (hopefully)
[03:13] <joebu23> anyone know why my pcmcia network card would stop working after a kernel  update today to 2.6.15-27?
[03:13] <chuckyp> Sembiance, well gnome has received a lot of speed improvements as of late.  KDE is still nice as well. I'd install both if I didn't want my menus all borked up.
[03:14] <Sanne> Sembiance: you won't even need to decide beforehand, since you could install all three in parallel and switch between them.
[03:14] <Samuli^> cafuego, 9wm? can it be that crappy? :)
[03:14] <chuckyp> joebu23, what type of card?
[03:14] <caliban> krazykit, dont u use anymore?
[03:14] <joebu23> chuckyp d-link, using atheros driver
[03:14] <chuckyp> joebu23, oh you know what perhaps you need the linux-restricted-modules for the new kernel you are running.
[03:14] <chuckyp> joebu23, how'd you get the atheros driver?
[03:14] <Sembiance> Sanne: If I just instal Ubuntu, can I still run KDE apps like KDevelop?
[03:14] <chuckyp> joebu23, originally?
[03:15] <krazykit> caliban: of course not.  i updated to dapper a month before release
[03:15] <voraistos> joebu: did you ever try to build your own kernel ? did you have to compile ndiswrapper? that could be the problem
[03:15] <chuckyp> joebu23, did it work out of the box or did you have to do something to get it working.
[03:15] <kitche> Sembiance: yes you can
[03:15] <rpalkovic> the copy from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1 failed somewhere in the middle with no real explanation given
[03:15] <Sanne> Sembiance: yes, you can. You would need some kde libs that installing the deb package would pull automatically.
[03:15] <chuckyp> Sembiance, yes most kde apps run in gnome.
[03:15] <joebu23> chuckyp: it worked out of the box as ath0 until today when i did an update on the kernel
[03:15] <decherdt> ubuntu lets me change window mangers,,with my mouse!
[03:15] <Samuli^> Sembiance, you might end up pulling most of kde with the kde-apps though.
[03:15] <wubrgamer> really ?
[03:15] <wubrgamer> how ?
[03:15] <caliban> krazykit, :( i've so much problems to 6.06, but with 5.10 not :S
[03:16] <chuckyp> joebu23, I don't have the same card but i'm assuming what happened is whatever module you where using for that card didn't get installed with the new kernel.
[03:16] <krazykit> caliban: strange.  i've not had any problems with dapper.
[03:16] <chuckyp> joebu23, if it uses restricted modules you would have to install them.
[03:16] <Sembiance> Maybe I should just run KDE then :)
[03:16] <krazykit> though i think i'll dist-upgrade to edgy once i back up my laptop
[03:16] <joebu23> chuckyp: any ideas how to fix?  i have no network connection without that card
[03:16] <caliban> krazykit, my probleme is cdrom :( impossible mount that
[03:16] <krazykit> joebu23: use the old kernel.
[03:16] <i4get2> well theres a bug for ya...
[03:16] <voraistos> 6.06 has been released too early i think. i had lots of trouble too. Breezy was very stable
[03:16] <Sembiance> What about the crazy 3D cube thing I've heard about? I forget which company was working on it, Novell maybe? I saw a video of it and it looked pretty... well, 'pretty'
[03:17] <joebu23> krazy: how do you rollback to a previous kernel
[03:17] <krazykit> Sembiance: compiz?  feh.  it gets lame after an hour or so, imo
[03:17] <chuckyp> joebu23, yeah the easy fix for right now would be to use the old kerenl just select it from grub's boot menu
[03:17] <aceracer24> Anyone here using InitNG by chance?
[03:17] <joebu23> chuckyp: thanks
[03:17] <kitche> Sembiance: that is compiz and you neeed XGL or aiglx to run it
[03:17] <Sanne> Sembiance: I found Gnome to be a bit sluggish on my old i Ghz system so I used Xfce there. I didn't try Kde on this machine. On my new system I use Kde, and like it very much so far.
[03:17] <chuckyp> joebu23, untill you figure out what exactly is going on
[03:17] <voraistos> sembiance, what is your graphic card ?
[03:17] <joebu23> krazykit: thanks, will try
[03:17] <Sembiance> krazykit: That's what I figured. Whenever I need to work in windows the first thing I do is turn off all themes and animations
[03:17] <krazykit> joebu23: when you reboot, hit escape in the grub menu and choose the old one
[03:17] <Sanne> Sembiance: s/i/1
[03:17] <chuckyp> joebu23, it appears that atheros uses madwifi
[03:17] <krazykit> aceracer24: yeah, though i think i'm out of date
[03:18] <Sembiance> voraistos: GeForce 6600
[03:18] <voraistos> too bad
[03:18] <Samuli^> krazykit, have you actually used compiz?
[03:18] <Sembiance> voraistos: why too bad?
[03:18] <aceracer24> krazy: you using gnome with gdm?
[03:18] <krazykit> Samuli^: yeah.  i have.
[03:18] <krazykit> aceracer24: no, e17 with gdm
[03:18] <chuckyp> joebu23, did you try posting to the forums?
[03:18] <kitche> Sembiance: yeah that will run on XGL but not aiglx
[03:18] <aceracer24> do you get flahsing when it starts x?
[03:18] <chuckyp> joebu23, or searching them for that matter?
[03:18] <Sembiance> Sanne: I'll be installing on an Athlon XP 2800+ with 1GB of RAM. Will that be okay?
[03:18] <krazykit> aceracer24: nope.
[03:18] <Samuli^> sembiance, compiz is great and not only about eye-candy. It's actually pretty useful.
[03:18] <voraistos> sembiance: i am an anti xgl guy, pro Aiglx. based on the same stuff though
[03:19] <joebu23> chuckyp: not yet, will try that if I can't get it to work, searches yielded nothing
[03:19] <chuckyp> Sembiance, your best bet if you like the live cd and you want to install.  After installing just follow along the wiki for most of your needs.  If you can't find it there check back here.
[03:19] <aceracer24> krazy: Hmm, I have the latest SVN installed and GDM flashes like it is going to die but recovers. Also sometimes I get moved to tth6
[03:19] <kitche> voraistos: well XGL is based on aiglx really
[03:19] <Samuli^> krazykit, so, then you should know you can turn most of the effects of and have a smooth desktop. It's the best thing that have happened to OS'ses in a long time.
[03:19] <aceracer24> tthy*
[03:19] <aceracer24> tty* lol
[03:19] <voraistos> sembiance: you need proprietary driver to run compiz, and i dont. thats why you gat the wrong graphic card
[03:19] <tgelter> hey everyone. Has anyone gotten the toshiba gigabeat working in linux?
[03:19] <Sembiance> Samuli^: Doesn't that allow you to see behind windows and stuff with a keystroke?
[03:19] <aceracer24> can't type tonight
[03:20] <voraistos> kitche: not the contrary ?
[03:20] <Sanne> Sembiance: Should be. My system now is Athlon X2 3800, 2GB RAM, but I had only 1 GB RAM for some days and didn't notice a difference.
[03:20] <krazykit> Samuli^: my other issue is that i don't much like compiz as my WM.
[03:20] <Samuli^> Sembiance, it allows for a quite a lot of stuff. Transparency for one is very useful.
[03:20] <steev_> I have your setup, but dual core and with 1 gig, and no problems
[03:20] <krazykit> though i wonder... do the ati-drivers allow composite + hardware accel now?
[03:20] <aceracer24> Anyone else using InitNG and GDM?
[03:20] <JoaoJoao> ati drivers
[03:21] <kitche> voraistos: nope aiglx been in development for 5 years or so where XGL been about 3 or so but they split for different rendering since XGL is more for ATI and Nvidia and aiglx is for intel and the other ones
[03:21] <Samuli^> krazykit, why's that?
[03:21] <krazykit> Samuli^: i like the way e17 works better :-P
[03:21] <Samuli^> krazykit, I've had e17 and it's great, but really, really buggy.
[03:21] <Kluster_v2> is there a way to install ubuntu like a real distro or am I stuck with the dumb gui ??
[03:21] <JoaoJoao> does e17 work?
[03:21] <krazykit> Samuli^: i've not had any major issues in the past, say year.
[03:22] <steev_> uber_mort: hey man
[03:22] <kitche> JoaoJoao: yes it's stable just have a few bugs
[03:22] <Samuli^> krazykit, are you using the whole e17 or just the window-manager?
[03:22] <uber_mort> steev_: Heyo
[03:22] <JoaoJoao> does it have a file manager and stuff like that?
[03:22] <krazykit> Samuli^: the whole e17 IS the window manager.  i don't really use many of the efl based apps though
[03:23] <tgelter> Kluster_v2: get the alt install cd
[03:23] <aceracer24> where can view the errors xserver is getting?
[03:23] <JoaoJoao> poor Ubuntu, don't burn it :(
[03:23] <Samuli^> krazykit, isn't enlightenment the WM and e17 the whole desktop?
[03:23] <chuckyp> Kluster_v2, what do you mean like a real distro i.e. text based install?  Use the alternate iso for that.
[03:23] <Samuli^> it's been few months since I last tried it.
[03:23] <b0ysc0ut> ok..can i get to work engage even tho i dont have enlightment?
[03:23] <krazykit> b0ysc0ut: no, engage is dead.
[03:24] <kitche> Samuli^: you do know e17 is called enlightenment right just like e16 is
[03:24] <Kluster_v2> yeah since the target computer is a 233mhz, I won't install X.. so I don't want the gui
[03:24] <krazykit> Samuli^: nah, e17 is sorta the name for the WM and the supporting libraries
[03:24] <Sanne> aceracer24: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:24] <tgelter> I need recommendations for a pvp that is well-compatible with linux...anyone?
[03:24] <b0ysc0ut> so theres no way i can get the dock?or do i have to get dr17?
[03:25] <Sembiance> So as I begin to use linux more and more I'm going to need to find good replacement apps for apps that I'm used to using under windows (like Winamp for music playing, EAC for perfect audio CD Ripping to flac, etc)  I know about freshmeat and sourceforge are there any other websites or channels where I can ask peoples opinions on good linux apps to fill a certain need without getting on everyones nerves?
[03:25] <krazykit> b0ysc0ut: i guess you didn't hear me.  engage is dead, standalone and as an e-module.  there are other docks out there.
[03:25] <wackfusion> player v. player?
[03:25] <Samuli^> krazykit, they quote about enlightenment window manager on their web-page, but who wants argue about semantics anyways.
[03:25] <cpk1> Sembiance: xmms is a winampl clone
[03:25] <inglor> hey, is there any way to reset everything to default in csm?
[03:26] <rpalkovic> kitche: i copied from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1.  As far as I can tell, the directory structure and what not remained intact.  the problem is that when i edited /boot/grub/menu.lst to let me boot there, it wouldn't do so.
[03:26] <b0ysc0ut> so can u tell me one? krazykit
[03:26] <Samuli^> krazykit, my point being: the window manager might be okay, the whole desktop-thing just isn't ready or stable.
[03:26] <krazykit> b0ysc0ut: no.  i don't use docks.
[03:26] <voraistos> Sembiance: you might want this Kplayer thing
[03:26] <kitche> Sembiance: only by searching really
[03:26] <b0ysc0ut> ok thanks anyway
[03:26] <Sembiance> Will Ubuntu support the digital output of my Audigy soundcard and my 4.1 surround sound?
[03:26] <Sanne> Sembiance: you could check ubuntuforums.org and kubuntuforums.net
[03:26] <inglor> or in general, reset a program's config to default?
[03:26] <voraistos> Sembiance: Amarok
[03:26] <inglor> hey, is there any way to reset everything to default in csm?
[03:26] <krazykit> Samuli^: it's not supposed to be a whole-desktop thing right now.  it's not feature-complete yet :-P
[03:27] <tgelter> wackfusion: no, not player vs player....personal video player
[03:27] <Samuli^> krazykit, well, neither is the window manager announced stable.. neither is compiz though.
[03:27] <DoppelGanger> he he
[03:27] <Samuli^> krazykit, I don't mind the window manager part of enlightenment at all. It's nice.
[03:27] <Kluster_v2> so if I burn the iso file on a cd I acn install it ?
[03:27] <krazykit> Samuli^: i've been using it as my WM on both my machines for a year now :-)
[03:28] <lwizardl> hi
[03:28] <Sembiance> Sanne, voraistos: thanks :)
[03:28] <lwizardl> is there a channel for the ubuntu studio?
[03:28] <rpalkovic> kitche: and the live CD wasn't actually mounting the devices, it just looked that way - but I still couldn't delete or change anything with gparted.
[03:28] <inglor> hey, is there any way to reset everything to default in csm?
[03:28] <Samuli^> krazykit, I don't see how it could compete with compiz if your hardware were supported, but it's okay ;)
[03:28] <inglor> hey, is there any way to reset everything to default in compiz in general?
[03:28] <Sembiance> What is everyones favorite movie viewier?
[03:28] <Sanne> Sembiance: hardwaresupport is mostly a kernel issue. For your soundcard you should check the alsa soundcard matrix: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[03:28] <DoppelGanger> is there a channel for ubuntu losers
[03:29] <kitche> rpalkovic: well I know that your not suppose to mount anything to reparition it
[03:29] <krazykit> Samuli^: meh, just personal preference.
[03:29] <Kluster_v2> DoppelGanger, why would you say that ?
[03:29] <DoppelGanger> um, because i wanna watch dumbassess try to add 1 + 1
[03:29] <Samuli^> inglor, You'd probably need to erase the config-file, perhaps in the /home/.compiz?
[03:29] <Sembiance> I downloaded and burned ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso  Is that a mistake if I want KDE?
[03:29] <krazykit> DoppelGanger: i suggest going to efnet then.
[03:30] <inglor> samuli, and that would reset it to default or just make it not work?
[03:30] <tritium> DoppelGanger: please stay on topic
[03:30] <Samuli^> sembiance, you can have both easily.
[03:30] <cpk1> Sembiance: you can still get kde with the regular ubuntu install
[03:30] <DoppelGanger> tritium: i was on topic
[03:30] <krazykit> Sembiance: not really a mistake, it'll just install gnome first.
[03:30] <Kluster_v2> this is the topic
[03:30] <cpk1> i suppose getting the kubuntu iso might not be as much of a hassle
[03:30] <Samuli^> Sembiance, just do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop after you've installed and you have both.
[03:30] <sess> !wacom
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <Kluster_v2> I also noticed something called fluxbuntu.. any good ?
[03:31] <Sanne> Sembiance: not exactly a mistake as you can install kbuntu-desktop later, but for efficiency you might want to get the kubuntu cd :)
[03:31] <Sembiance> Samuli^: Is there a visual package manager or all through console? (just curious)
[03:31] <sess> !graphire
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <sess> mother...
[03:31] <Samuli^> inglor, reset to default I think. Just rename the config-file to something else and rename it back if it doesn't work.
[03:31] <tritium> DoppelGanger: no, you were borderline rude
[03:31] <sess> we need a faqs bot
[03:31] <krazykit> Sembiance: yeah, synaptic... but imo aptitude is better
[03:31] <tritium> sess: ubotu is a bot
[03:31] <krazykit> sess: we do.  it's called ubotu
[03:31] <cpk1> Sembiance: there is visual and console
[03:31] <DoppelGanger> tritium: thanks mom, now can i get a candy or a spanking
[03:31] <Samuli^> Sembiance, there's synaptic in gnome and kynaptic (or similar) in kde.
[03:31] <tritium> sure, DoppelGanger
[03:32] <cpk1> Samuli^: adept =)
[03:32] <cpk1> Samuli^: for kde
[03:32] <Sanne> Sembiance: console and graphic both. In Kubuntu you have Adept as graphical package manager, but I prefer Synaptic, the one from Gnome, even if I run KDE.
[03:32] <sess> pardon me, its just that I remember faqs had information AND urls for EVERYYTHING
[03:32] <Samuli^> adept And kynaptic :)
[03:32] <Sanne> oh :)
[03:32] <sess> ubotu is probably still pretty young
[03:32] <sess> ;)
[03:32] <Samuli^> I'm pretty sure there's kynaptic in the repos :)
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is probably still pretty young - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <kitche> sess: that's what ubotu does
[03:33] <Sanne> Samuli^: that may very well be. I stopped looking because I wanted to use Synaptic anyway.
[03:33] <Sembiance> Thank you all so much for putting up with my questions :)
[03:33] <Samuli^> Sanne, I kinda liked adept.
[03:34] <wackfusion> ubotu lol
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Samuli^> It had 'only show installed' option synaptic doesn't.
[03:34] <Samuli^> very useful if you're trying to remove something.
[03:34] <Sanne> Sembiance: good luck :)
[03:35] <sess> ubotu anything, don't rely on me to answer your questions, use your own resources, like google.com.  If you're still really incompetent
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything, don't rely on me to answer your questions, use your own resources, like google.com.  If you're still really incompetent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <sess> lolx
[03:35] <Sanne> Samuli^: Synaptic has this... I prefer Synaptic mainly because it keeps an install history. I didn't find such a thing in Adept.
[03:35] <sess> I love ubotu now
[03:35] <tgelter> can mencoder convert to wmv (I know...why on earth would I want to?...for the gigabeat...)?
[03:35] <Samuli^> Sanne, it does?
[03:35] <krazykit> tgelter: don't think so
[03:35] <wackfusion> lol
[03:35] <bretzel> Where to ask about console-mode fonts/or charset not able to display the alternate charset ( graphical boxes  ) sorry - to ask again
[03:35] <Sanne> Samuli^: I will tell you in a sec
[03:35] <Samuli^> Sanne, I rarely use synaptic either though, comman line is goood :)
[03:36] <Samuli^> but that info would come in handy.
[03:36] <wackfusion> ubotu mmorpg
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <bretzel> !console
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <bretzel> ...
[03:36] <Samuli^> Sanne, ok, so I found it already.
[03:36] <Sanne> Samuli^: the buttons on the left side at the bottom, one of them is "status". Click that, then you can choose "Installed" in the left column. I use it all the time.
[03:36] <Sanne> heh
[03:37] <tgelter> !pvp
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pvp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <sess> wackfusion: try crossfire, worldforge, or wyvern
[03:37] <Sanne> Samuli^: actually, I prefer command line apt, since I raised myself on it :), but as I said, I just love the install history of Synaptic, so I do all actual installs through it.
[03:38] <Samuli^> Sanne, yes.
[03:38] <nikotin> slt
[03:38] <nikotin> hello
[03:38] <nikotin> vafenculo
[03:39] <nikotin> we speak english here?
[03:39] <tritium> nikotin: yes
[03:39] <nikotin> were u from?
[03:40] <nikotin> ok...
[03:40] <cpk1> the gui installer just shows too much crap
[03:40] <cpk1> command line apt is easy and clean
[03:40] <krazykit> nikotin: there are channels for other languages too, if you're not good with english
[03:40] <nikotin> i'm ok :=
[03:41] <nikotin> :)
[03:41] <chuckyp> cpk1, I prefer aptitude myself
[03:41] <chuckyp> cpk1, with the options to fix broken dependencies etc...
[03:41] <chuckyp> nikotin, what language do you speak natively?
[03:41] <nikotin> french...
[03:42] <chuckyp> !fr
[03:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:42] <inglor> !he
[03:42] <ubotu>          
[03:42] <bretzel> hello ???
[03:42] <inglor> yay, lots of gibberish
[03:42] <nikotin> hello
[03:42] <chuckyp> bretzel, yo
[03:42] <nikotin> what's gibberish?
[03:43] <prabesh> Hey all.
[03:43] <bretzel> no one knows why in terminal console mode default setup, there is no graphics alt-charset in Ubuntu ? ( although "dialog" does somthing to the terminal to be able to display boxes )...
[03:43] <Kluster_v2> nikotin, il y a des canaux pour ceux qui parlent francais et aussi ceux trop brillants pour utiliser ubuntu :)
[03:43] <prabesh> How come when I issue init 6 to my box (Ubuntu 6.06), it freezes on "Stopping domain name service..."?
[03:44] <Sanne> night all
[03:44] <nikotin> apparemment tu parle francais toi mme...
[03:44] <cpk1> didnt think you even used init in ubuntu
[03:44] <nikotin> yes..
[03:44] <prabesh> In addition, is there any way for the ifup scripts to skip the state file?
[03:44] <bretzel> Kluster_v2: "Top brillant pour Ubuntu ?"  Since when ubuntu is for idiots ? :-)
[03:44] <bretzel> Trop*
[03:44] <voraistos> hey i just found out something strange. When i dl a .deb with Firefox, i can choose to open it with Gdebi. It asks me to grant admin privileges, but doesnt ask any pass. Isnt that a security problem?
[03:44] <nikotin> much easier in all cases
[03:45] <prabesh> For example, if there is a problem and I do a hard reboot, the states say that the interfaces are already configured.
[03:45] <chuckyp> voraistos, are you logged in as a normal user? or root?
[03:45] <liquidtenmillion> voraistos: GNOME will temporarily store the password if you used it within 5 minutes or so I think.
[03:45] <Flannel> liquidtenmillion: 15 is default
[03:46] <voraistos> well, i am not root, and havent been using any Gdebi within 5 mins
[03:46] <Sembiance> What is that little application running on the top left? http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/images/screenshots/darkliquid_2.jpg
[03:46] <voraistos> nor any apt-get
[03:46] <kitche> Sembiance: probably conky
[03:46] <liquidtenmillion> voraistos: If you used anything that required gksudo in the past 15 minutes, it temporarily stored your password.
[03:46] <nikotin> it's upgrade time...
[03:47] <Flannel> liquidtenmillion: actually, it's 10.  just looked it up.  knew that 5 is too short though ;)
[03:47] <voraistos> okok dont remember, but thats certainly it
[03:47] <Samuli^> voraistos, are you using firefox as root.. ok, ok. stupid question, at least it should be :)
[03:47] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here use the cluster mode of dvd::rip?
[03:47] <voraistos> Samuli^ there is no way to exec firefox as root
[03:47] <liquidtenmillion> Flannel: Well I've never been sure of the actual number, just that it did store it for a few minutes
[03:48] <Flannel> liquidtenmillion: well, now we both know ;)
[03:48] <Samuli^> voraistos, yes there is. I just did.
[03:49] <voraistos> with sudo it tells you it blocks a few options or something. not sure. dont wanna try ;)
[03:49] <Samuli^> voraistos, I used gksudo.
[03:49] <majd> !samba
[03:49] <voraistos> lol
[03:49] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:49] <Samuli^> but anyways, you must've used the sudo command in the 10-15min range before.
[03:50] <Sembiance> kitche: thanks
[03:50] <smoked1> Quick question about the "Terminal Server Client".. If I am in full screen mode how do I get out and back to another windows on my linux box?
[03:50] <voraistos> by the way it was to install Exaile (Amarok for gnome) there is a dapper package on the website, but not in our repos ?!
[03:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone available for alittle help?
[03:51] <inglor> sure
[03:51] <inglor> ask ahead
[03:51] <chuckyp> Anyone know of a good text based system monitor for the desktop?
[03:51] <Samuli^> voraistos, there's amarok for gnome?
[03:51] <voraistos> YES !!!!!!!!!
[03:52] <Samuli^> that is sweeet.
[03:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> ive installed ubuntu dapper 6.05 yesterday and my root pword only works for certain operations.
[03:52] <inglor> of course there is amarok for gnome :)
[03:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> i am trying to run the nvidia installer but its not accepting my root password
[03:52] <inglor> did you try to sudo it?
[03:52] <voraistos> Exaile and Banshee. Banshee is in our repos, but not its plugins.
[03:52] <Samuli^> well there's amarok that works for gnome too.. but amarok for gnome. geez :)
[03:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> but if I go into system administration it works
[03:52] <inglor> sudo appname
[03:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> no i did not
[03:52] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: Conky
[03:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> kinda new to ubuntu
[03:52] <inglor> su is not very safe, it doesn't work with some stuff in ubuntu because of that
[03:52] <chuckyp> [BTF] Chm0d, hrm.. well the nvidia installer you would sudo sh NVIDIA-whatever.run
[03:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> o
[03:53] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, conky flickers in gnome
[03:53] <inglor> try:
[03:53] <inglor> sudo <whatever command here>
[03:53] <inglor> and it runs it as root
[03:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok thx very much
[03:53] <inglor> any time
[03:53] <mendigaum> any1 can help me in a litlle thing? i wanna use a router modem in ubuntu 6.06 dsk and i am using a "dlink DSL-500T" when i do "sudo pppoeconf" there doesnt find any device, but if i use an speedstream 5200 in non-router mode that works and connect well.
[03:53] <Samuli^> I have a odd problem btw. alt doesn't seem to be working all the time.
[03:54] <[BTF] Chm0d> bummer it says command not found
[03:54] <Sembiance> wow en.wikipedia.com is sloooow
[03:54] <voraistos> Samuli^ what  do you mean ?
[03:54] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: Add the following lines to your .conkyrc  "own_window yes"   "own_window_transparent yes" and "own_window_type override"
[03:54] <chuckyp> [BTF] Chm0d, what command?
[03:54] <Flannel> !tell [BTF] Chm0d about nvidia
[03:54] <chuckyp> [BTF] Chm0d, follow the directions given by ubotu
[03:55] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, let me give that a try
[03:55] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp:  and also add "double_buffer"
[03:55] <mendigaum> any1 can help me in a litlle thing? i wanna use a router modem in ubuntu 6.06 dsk and i am using a "dlink DSL-500T" when i do "sudo pppoeconf" there doesnt find any device, but if i use an speedstream 5200 in non-router mode that works and connect well.
[03:55] <inglor> chm0d, what do you mean command not found, which
[03:55] <inglor> mendigaum, does it find connectivity at all in ifconfig?
[03:55] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, are you running conky?
[03:55] <nikotin> ok, does anyone know any channel where french is spoken?
[03:56] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: yes, right now, in gnome 2.14 with no flicker
[03:56] <cafuego> nikotin: #ubuntu-fr
[03:56] <Samuli^> nikotin #ubuntu-fr?
[03:56] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, cool lets see if I can add those.
[03:56] <nikotin> thanks :)
[03:56] <smoked1>  When in full screen mode on the terminal server client how do i minimize back to linux
[03:56] <mendigaum> [inglor] : i dont know
[03:57] <Samuli^> voraistos, what I mean is that when I try to put out character that need alt+something, it just acts like alt isn't pressed down.
[03:57] <mendigaum> [inglor] : if i use the speedstream 5200 and use sudo pppoeconf
[03:57] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: You might also need to add "on_bottom yes" to your .conkyrc also.
[03:57] <voraistos> Samuli^ hmmmmmmmm are you thinking about replacing your keyboard anytime soon ?
[03:58] <Samuli^> Well, yeah, but I don't think it's that :)
[03:58] <mendigaum> [inglor] : i can connect well! but using the dlink or speedstream 5200, both as routers there is no connectvity in Firefox
[03:58] <Samuli^> it works in windows.
[03:58] <voraistos> Samuli^ lol. i dont know what that could be
[03:58] <majd> how do i create a samba account?
[03:58] <liquidtenmillion> Samuli^: So basically, what you want is to be able to hit "alt+157" and get a letter with an accent over it?
[03:58] <liquidtenmillion> Samuli^: instead of just 157?
[03:59] <cafuego> majd: Via `smbpasswd'
[03:59] <cafuego> Samul: Like so?
[03:59] <mendigaum> [inglor] : are u here? :)
[03:59] <Samuli^> liquidtenmillion, no, I don't mind those, but I like the 'at' character I need for e-mail and stuff like that.
[04:00] <voraistos> Samuli^ does it work on linux, never tried that, i have french keyboard, no need for special command :)
[04:00] <inglor> yes, I'm here now
[04:00] <z0rz> You know what I don't get....
[04:00] <liquidtenmillion> Samuli^: Shift+2?  Are you using an en_US qwerty keyboard?
[04:00] <Samuli^> voraistos, I have no idea, I have finnish-keyboard :)
[04:00] <cafuego> voraistos: gnome has a compose key option, which works fine. compose, accent, letter.
[04:00] <liquidtenmillion> Samuli^: Oh I see.
[04:00] <Samuli^> liquidtenmillion, for me it's alt+2
[04:00] <z0rz> I can boot Xubuntu live at 1280x1024 .. but then I install it and I don't have the choice of 1280x1024 in the Display settings ... how can I get this resolution?
[04:01] <briguyd> is there a way to change capslock to shift+capslock instead?
[04:01] <cafuego> Sml
[04:01] <eyequeue> z0rz, tried #xubuntu yet?
[04:01] <briguyd> using xmodmap or loadkeys or something like that?
[04:01] <kb3istiger> z0rz: it is an issue with your monitor being correctly identified, you can manually had that resolution in xorg.conf
[04:02] <z0rz> and xorg.conf is in my ~ dir?
[04:02] <Samuli^> cafuego, that's an swedish o, that I despise "" :)
[04:02] <cafuego> Samuli^: :-)
[04:02] <kb3istiger> z0rz: no it is in your /etc/X11 directory. You might want to search google for editing it before you start if you are not sure about how to edit it.
[04:02] <Samuli^> cafuego, too many forced swedish classes as child :)
[04:03] <Samuli^> hehe, well they're pretty much the same expect for finnish.
[04:03] <voraistos> #~{[|\^@] }  I get that stuffpressing normal keys + Alt Gr.
[04:03] <eyequeue> finnish is different?  is that why they write kernels there?
[04:03] <kitche> z0rz: it really depends on what driver you are using since for really high res you need binary drivers
[04:04] <Samuli^> eyequeue, yes, we speak python and c here :)
[04:04] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, Conky: failed to set up double buffer
[04:04] <chuckyp> Conky: drawing to single buffer
[04:04] <eyequeue> Samuli^, lol
`'`' the same with maj. Out of the box. And i am not using the computer with the 109 keys Japanese keyboard ;)
[04:04] <fatbrain> bah, Bug Buddy crashes when you hit "Forward"
[04:05] <eyequeue> fatbrain, file a bug on it? ;-)
[04:05] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: That's not good.
[04:05] <fatbrain> eyequeue: tried to :P
[04:05] <fatbrain> started with gedit.
[04:05] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, yeah I don't get it
[04:05] <fatbrain> well, off to bed.
[04:05] <Samuli^> cafuego, where are you from?
[04:05] <cafuego> Samuli^: holland
[04:05] <eyequeue> fatbrain, i was jking, but i do know you can file one on the web, or via email too i believe  watch ubotu
[04:05] <eyequeue> !bugs
[04:05] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, thats definately why i'm getting the flicker
[04:05] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: It's probably a problem with your Xorg configuration file.  Run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then add this line "Load "dbe"" into the "Section "Module"" section and save and then restart x11.
[04:06] <fatbrain> eyequeue: I know, but still, a bug app that relies on some lib that's broken, sucks
[04:06] <Samuli^> I see, but let me tell you, your language is as much weird as ours :)
[04:06] <eyequeue> fatbrain, yeah, the strange irony makes me smile, but it definitely isn't good for it to remain that way at all
[04:06] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: So near where you have "load glx" and "load dri" and such just add "Load "dbe"" also.
[04:06] <Samuli^> cafuego, what do you think of belgium, do you understand theirs?
[04:07] <fatbrain> indeesd, think I will reinstall ubuntu... some day
[04:07] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: DBE stands for double-buffer extension
[04:07] <cafuego> Samuli^: Yup, but that's just dutch as it was a hundred or so years ago.
[04:07] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, ahh gotcha yeah that was missing let me restart gdm brb
[04:07] <eyequeue> fatbrain, the day before you do, may i make a suggestion?
[04:07] <fatbrain> go ahead.
[04:07] <Lam_> is there a linux program that i can install that'll allow my computer keyboard to be turned into a piano?
[04:07] <Samuli^> cafuego, I've always though they sound like they're choking when they speak :)
[04:08] <cafuego> Samuli^: graag gedaan!
[04:08] <eyequeue> fatbrain, df -h, to see your own usage patterns, then you can partition as you may like, at least a /home so reinstalls are more painless, heh
[04:08] <Samuli^> cafuego, geez, that sounded aggressive, lol.
[04:08] <myriad> i just compiled a .c file with gcc, but how do i run the output file, "a.out" ?
[04:09] <eyequeue> ./a.out  if it is chmod +x
[04:09] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, okay that worked only thing that didn't wokr is I added it to the session as a startup program it loaded upon loggin in then when the wallpaper came up it disappeared
[04:09] <fatbrain> eyequeue: will do.
[04:10] <cafuego> Samuli^: only means "you're welcome" ;-)
[04:10] <sorush20> I have a problem.. my kernel does load and it stop at a point where it is asking me choose a runlevel..
[04:10] <liquidtenmillion> eyequeue: That backfires after a while.  I made separate partitions for my slackware install about 3  years ago.  I ended up filling my /home partition 100%, and was completely unable to back my data up,(only have cd burner, have several dozens of gigs of data, no other partition large enough to copy the data too, no more IDE slots, etc), so now my /home directory has thousands of symlinks to other partitions.
[04:10] <sorush20> how can I fix the problem?
[04:10] <myriad> what purpose does the "./" serve exactly?
[04:10] <Samuli^> cafuego, haha. :)
[04:11] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: I think I had problems with it starting too.  Make sure you start it AFTER nautilus starts up.  For me it only really works if i start it manually, otherwise nautilus tries to cover it.
[04:11] <eyequeue> liquidtenmillion, i typically nfs-mount /home, except on the laptop
[04:11] <Flannel> myriad: ./something means the something file in this directory
[04:11] <eyequeue> myriad, "current-dir" (which is hopefully not in your path)
[04:11] <myriad> Flannel:  why doesn't it assume that if i type "something" that i mean the something file in the current dir?
[04:11] <sethk> myriad, because that's a bad thing to do
[04:11] <sethk> myriad, the reason is:
[04:11] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, yeah that appears to be what happened.  Do you know much about configuring what information it displays?  is that all in the .conkyrc file?
[04:11] <eyequeue> myriad, . "current-dir"      .. "parent-dir"
[04:11] <Flannel> myriad: because it checks the include paths, etc
[04:12] <sethk> myriad, the program that is run should not depend on the current directory
[04:12] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: It's all in the .conkyrc file.  It's rather confusing at first too.
[04:12] <sethk> myriad, otherwise, you type something in one directory, it works, you type it in another directory, it doesn't
[04:12] <sethk> myriad, but that's not the really bad case
[04:12] <fatbrain> hrm
[04:12] <liquidtenmillion> chuckyp: typing in "man conky" gives you all of the different options kind of.
[04:12] <fatbrain> how can I format a usb-harddrive?
[04:12] <sethk> myriad, the really bad case is when in one directory it finds one program, and in a different directory it finds a different program
[04:12] <sethk> myriad, you can, if you choose, add "." to your path
[04:13] <sethk> myriad, if you do this, add it to the end, at least, not the beginning
[04:13] <eyequeue> fatbrain, you want to low-lever format it?  or make a filesystem on it?  mkfs is probably what you want
[04:13] <sethk> myriad, as in:  export PATH=$PATH:.
[04:13] <fatbrain> eyequeue: thanks
[04:13] <chuckyp> liquidtenmillion, ty
[04:13] <sorush20> how do I mount a partition in live mode?
[04:13] <myriad> sethk:   so if you have multiple programs with the same name in different directories, is there a way to add one of them to a path so that it is the default program executed when that name is typed?
[04:13] <eyequeue> fatbrain, mkfs.(and then press tab, you'll see a lot of choices for fs heh)
[04:13] <sethk> myriad, two ways, actually
[04:13] <w30> sorush20, money! you can buy a usb container for a hard drive for 30bucks. That plus a used hard drive will get you out of trouble. You can make an iso remove what you "isoed" and repeat.
[04:14] <SynchronizeR> QUESTION: Good evening , using X-chat  from a wireless network at a hotel in Toronto,Ca. on an Acer 5102 notebook using a Turion and ubuntu 6.06LTS. Everyting , and mean everythig ,runs smoothly exept the built-in web-cam. Anybody has got it to work?
[04:14] <sethk> myriad, one way is to remember that the PATH directories are searched in order.  So, for example, if your path is, say,    bin:/usr/bin      and there is a program foo in /bin, then the one in /bin will always be run
[04:14] <eyequeue> w30, i thought he wanted "mount" from a livecd, hehe
[04:14] <sethk> myriad, regardless of whether a program named foo exists in /usr/bin (or anywhere else for that matter)
[04:14] <sethk> myriad, there is also an alias mechanism
[04:15] <sethk> myriad, you can say:      alias ssh=/usr/bin/ssh            which will force the name    ssh    to mean /usr/bin/ssh, regardless of PATH
[04:15] <sorush20> eyequeue: w30 is be silly
[04:15] <myriad> i see.  is this aliasing temporary?
[04:15] <sethk> myriad, yes.
[04:15] <sethk> myriad, typically you put the alias statement in a startup file (such as $HOME/.bashrc)
[04:15] <eyequeue> sorush20, the mount command, even from the livecd, you jus have to be sure the /mount/point exists first
[04:15] <sethk> myriad, you can set and clear aliases at any time
[04:15] <sethk> myriad, to clear you use   unalias
[04:16] <eyequeue> sorush20, there may be some gui way, someone else may know that i don't
[04:16] <myriad> sethk:  so rebooting clears aliases, but putting them into a startup file sets them upon every boot?
[04:16] <sethk> myriad, brb, have to deal with a quick phone call
[04:16] <sethk> myriad, but, basically, yes
[04:16] <myriad> sethk:  np
[04:17] <sky123> Hello is anyone familiar with migration of MAILDIRS from Postix to Qmail??
[04:18] <Gun_Smoke> what is the protocol for Tem Serv Client to connect to a xp machine?
[04:18] <w30> sorush20, I read your question and liquidtenmillion's together as one, ha the bifocals are getting to me again.
[04:19] <sethk> myriad, sorry, I'm back.  have to work occasionally  :)
[04:20] <sethk> myriad, the alias is only meaningful in the shell, and not every program is run by the shell.  also, even if a program is run by a shell, it's not always the same shell.
[04:20] <sethk> myriad, there are files in /etc that are read when shells start for all users, but even that's not complete
[04:20] <sorush20> w30: that is good to know..
[04:21] <sethk> myriad, because there are many shells.  I use zsh, for example, because it is far superior to bash (at least IMO).  so something in a bash init file is ignored.
[04:21] <sethk> myriad, there is in fact by convention a file that's read by all the shells, but you can't rely on it.
[04:21] <myriad> sethk:   i think i need to do some serious reading on the fundamentals of linux.  i am coming from a windows environment and trying to get used to all of this.
[04:21] <bmcfarli> hey guys, this is prolly the easiest question ever, but i need to ssh to a computer. How do i do this in the terminal?
[04:21] <sethk> myriad, because you can add programs to the list of allowable shells.
[04:21] <myriad> sethk:   i don't even fully understand what a shell is, unfortunately
[04:21] <sorush20> what log do I have to check to see why my hdd kubuntu installation did not fully load and stoped and gave the message to enter a number for run level?
[04:21] <sethk> myriad, it isn't terribly difficult, it is just that you have a lot to understand all at once.
[04:21] <sethk> myriad, here is something that you will find very helpful
[04:22] <sethk> myriad, there is a set of unix programs that run in windows (in win32 to be more precise) called cygwin.
[04:22] <sethk> myriad, both the bash and zsh shells are part of this set of programs
[04:22] <sethk> myriad, in windows, there is typically only one shell, cmd, although it is too pathetic to really call a shell
[04:23] <myriad> ok
[04:23] <sethk> myriad, by installing cygwin and running bash and/or zsh and/or ksh (and several others, believe it or not) you can sometimes gain some insight into what is doing what to whom.  :)
[04:23] <sethk> myriad, also, you can use it to transfer files between linux and windows using sftp, scp, can log into linux from windows with ssh,
[04:23] <sethk> myriad, so it's a very handy set of programs to have in windows.
[04:24] <myriad> so a shell is a program that takes input from the user and performs the functions requested?  or am i way off base...
[04:24] <sethk> myriad, basically
[04:24] <sethk> myriad, when you log in, the shell is the program that is started, prints the prompt that you see, and interprets the lines you type.
[04:24] <myriad> sethk:  i see
[04:25] <sethk> myriad, it's a bit (as usual) more complicated, because some commands are just processed by the shell (such as  alias=whatever, for example)
[04:25] <z0rz> Alright so I tried editing the Xorg.conf file serveral times and that hasn't seemed to help my resolution problem .. I'm trying to run at 1280x1024 but it looks like it's running at about 1024x768
[04:25] <Khaotik> Hello all
[04:25] <sethk> myriad, but most commands start with a program, and the shell finds this program and tells the o/s to execute it.
[04:25] <z0rz> Is there any other way to change the resolution in Xubuntu?
[04:25] <sethk> myriad, so you were correct, ignoring a few technicalities
[04:25] <sethk> z0rz, you shouldn't edit that file
[04:25] <myriad> sethk:  i think i see.  aliasing is a mechanism purely internal to the operation of the shell itself, while other commands usually reference external programs
[04:25] <sethk> z0rz, use   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <z0rz> Well someone just told me to
[04:26] <sethk> myriad, right.
[04:26] <sethk> myriad, of course, I could give you a few dozen "but"s, but sometimes it is better to be a hair inaccurate.  :)
[04:26] <myriad> sethk:  hehe
[04:26] <Khaotik> Can someone tell me what the command is that im supposed to run after an OEM install of ubuntu? It was 8am when I did this and I was half asleep and forgot today.
[04:27] <sethk> Khaotik, I have it written down at work, but it is slipping my mind also.  ugh.
[04:27] <Khaotik> bah
[04:27] <Khaotik> =)
[04:27] <Khaotik> I hadnt slept for almost 26 hours
[04:27] <myriad> sethk:   why do you think it is better for me to experiment with the shells in cygwin than directly in linux?
[04:27] <Khaotik> i got a slew of computers that im installing OEM ubuntu on and selling them
[04:27] <Khaotik> this is the first of the lot.
[04:28] <sethk> myriad, no
[04:28] <sethk> myriad, in general, jump into linux.  but everybody is different
[04:28] <Khaotik> sethk, do you have any idea where i could find this information?
[04:28] <sethk> myriad, sometimes it's easier to figure out what's going on when you change one thing at a time.
[04:29] <sethk> Khaotik, google for it, it will show up in the ubuntu forums
[04:29] <Khaotik> sethk: google for what i dont know the command
[04:29] <Khaotik> :)
[04:29] <pinky> So does Dapper still have 2.6.15?  I heard somewhere that there is some sort of version of Ubuntu that ships with 2.6.17
[04:29] <sethk> Khaotik, for ubuntu oem install user configuration
[04:29] <myriad> sethk:  thanks very much for your help, now i get to go do my programming homework  =)
[04:29] <Khaotik> sethk: hmm ok
[04:30] <quiet> pinky: probably Edgy knot 2
[04:30] <JoseStefan> !edgy > pinky
[04:30] <sethk> pinky, doesn't "ship" with anything, exactly, but the default kernel for edgy is of course newer than that for dapper
[04:30] <npodges> !edgy > npodges
[04:30] <quiet> lol.
[04:30] <quiet> npodges: you can do /msg ubotu edgy
[04:31] <_divan_> Hi everybody
[04:31] <^^Bran^^> ello
[04:31] <quiet> _divan_: what would you do if 900 people said "hello" back?
[04:31] <quiet> ;)
[04:31] <_divan_> =)
[04:32] <fausto> anybody here familiar with JACK?
[04:32] <quiet> mehoff?
[04:32] <quiet> OH!
[04:32] <quiet> sorry
[04:32] <jiSh> jackovasaur?
[04:32] <fausto> Lol
[04:32] <fausto> I have gotten it to work with Virtual Keyboard and a synth and it works great ...
[04:33] <quiet> sweet.
[04:33] <fausto> However when I try to get rosegarden to play through it I get nothing
[04:33] <fausto> And i get an Xrun every time i start jack
[04:33] <Khaotik> hah,
[04:33] <fausto> But it keeps working
[04:33] <fausto> So I don't know what to do
[04:33] <Khaotik> sethk: i found the command
[04:33] <Khaotik> its sudo: oem-config-prepare
[04:33] <fausto> I've been playing with the settings but no avail
[04:33] <Khaotik> minus the :
[04:34] <fausto> Anybody got any ideas as to what I may be doing wrong?
[04:34] <eternalswd> anyone here know what happened to the zsh channel?
[04:34] <jrib> eternalswd: nothing?
[04:34] <linuxcraz1> hi what msql should I get to host web forums, mysql-server?
[04:34] <nonym> Bran, thanks for the tip, seems theres a lot more people here :)
[04:34] <_divan_> I'm having trouble with my USB mp3 player on Ubuntu, file copying speed is very very slow, does anyone know how can i solve it?
[04:34] <Khaotik> _divan_:get usb 2.0?
[04:35] <fausto> So anyone out there giving this a shot or is this a lost cause?
[04:35] <Khaotik> ^_^
[04:35] <jrib> eternalswd: (I'm in it now)
[04:35] <eternalswd> I know it was on freenode before, but it's not registering anymore, so was just wondering if anyone on here was in on the loop
[04:35] <_divan_> Khaotik, yep
[04:35] <linuxcraz1> can someone help?
[04:35] <Khaotik> _divan_:other than that i have no idea, im kinda new to linux.
[04:36] <eternalswd> jrib, I'm an idiot, I forgot the pound sign lol
[04:36] <jrib> eternalswd: :)
[04:36] <Khaotik> _divan_:i copied 12gb onto my zen one time over usb.... with 1.1
[04:36] <w30> fausto, check this out, ha! http://home.pacbell.net/diana_do/knowjack.htm
[04:37] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here use the cluster mode of dvd::rip?
[04:37] <Khaotik> anyway im out. Bye all
[04:37] <fausto> lol
[04:37] <fausto> Thanks
[04:38] <nonym> hi, I want to add Xubuntu to my DOS boot menu so I can boot it, can anyone tell me what I should point to? my Xubuntu is on hdb6
[04:38] <nonym> I also have LILO but I never tried configuring that before...
[04:38] <quiet> nonym: why not just use GRUB?
[04:39] <nonym> I installed Feather LInux afte Xubuntu, which is why I have LILO
[04:39] <quiet> can you boot to Xubuntu from LILO?
[04:39] <Flannel> nonym: LILO will work, but I don't think DOS can boot linux
[04:39] <nonym> I don't konow, but I guess yes
[04:39] <nonym> Flannel, ok
[04:39] <quiet> boot xubuntu and run 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda'
[04:40] <nonym> quiet, thanks but I can't lose LILO or I wont' be able to get into Windows
[04:40] <nonym> for some strange reason...
[04:40] <quiet> nonym: yes you will.
[04:40] <nonym> no I tried
[04:40] <nonym> I have some NTLDR IS MISSING error
[04:40] <quiet> the ubuntu grub has a commented section in /boot/grub/menu.lst that tells you exactly how to add a windows system.
[04:40] <nonym> DOS boot loader doesn't manage either
[04:41] <quiet> if  it says NTLDR is missing, than you pointed to the wrong partition.
[04:41] <nonym> well, it was added before, but I got the same error that the DOS boot menu gives... :S
[04:41] <myesterious> hi
[04:41] <fausto> Holy crap man I can even control the transport from qjackctl
[04:41] <fausto> But I can't hear anything from Rosegarden!
[04:41] <nonym> NTLDR IS MISSING is a weird error with tons of different explanations from different people
[04:41] <nwbreneman> Hi, I used Nautilus to create a link to a folder, but I'd now like to remove that link too. If I try to delete it, it thinks I'm trying to delete the actual folder. How do I remove the link?
[04:41] <myesterious> How can i disable "agpgart" ?
[04:41] <nonym> I don't understand it, other than LILO manages to get me in for whatever reason
[04:42] <quiet> it's not a wierd error... it's the Windows chainloader.
[04:42] <quiet> bootloader... but it's a chainloader because your using grub/lilo
[04:42] <nonym> sorry, I don't know what chainloader is
[04:42] <myesterious> I have added 'agpgart' at discover.conf and blacklist but its still loading..
[04:43] <nonym> several boot loaders?
[04:43] <quiet> nonym: yes.  NTLDR is what boots the NTOSKRNL
[04:43] <nonym> I had the error before too, when I only had one loader
[04:43] <quiet> you direct grub to the partition where windows is installerd witha  chaonloader +1
[04:43] <quiet> and it proceeds to boot NTLDR
[04:44] <nonym> ok
[04:44] <quiet> nonym: it happens when you break your windows partition.
[04:44] <nonym> yeah I guess, I got that error after installing another hd
[04:44] <chuckyp> What is the proper directory to put a script in?
[04:44] <quiet> you can sometimes fix it by booting to the recovery console in the Windows disc and running fixboot and/or fixmbr
[04:44] <chuckyp> i.e. the proper directory thats in my path.  proper as in the preferred way.
[04:45] <quiet> chuckyp: /usr/bin, probably.
[04:45] <nonym> I think I did that, and lots of other things too
[04:45] <chuckyp> quiet, k
[04:45] <nonym> I read several articles, e.g. on Microsoft's pages, didn't work any of it...
[04:45] <quiet> what partition is Windows?
[04:45] <Samuli^> nonym, do you happen to have windows on the second harddrive?
[04:46] <nonym> yes
[04:46] <nonym> hdb5
[04:46] <nonym> or hdb3, not sure :)
[04:46] <Samuli^> nonym, you need to add mapping hd0, to hd1 and hd1 to hd0 in your grub.conf
[04:46] <nonym> actually I think it's across two partitions...
[04:46] <Samuli^> windows doesn't like to be on the second hd, so that's the workaround.
[04:46] <nonym> ok
[04:47] <Flannel> Samuli^, nonym, you need letters in there too.
[04:47] <quiet> nonym: you need to use whatever contains n:\WINDOWS\
[04:47] <quiet> n = C, usualluy.
[04:47] <quiet> usually*
[04:47] <Samuli^> Flannel, actually grub understands stuff in 0,0 etc. format. 0,0 meaning hda1
[04:47] <nonym> I have three or four Windows installed...
[04:47] <nwbreneman> Hi, I used Nautilus to create a link to a folder, but I'd now like to remove that link too. If I try to delete it, it thinks I'm trying to delete the actual folder. How do I remove the link?
[04:47] <quiet> jesus christ.
[04:48] <quiet> why?
[04:48] <nonym> plus 3.11  and 1.0 :)
[04:48] <quiet> argh.
[04:48] <nonym> only xp works though
[04:48] <Flannel> Samuli^: er, right.  didn't realise we were spekaing grub ;)
[04:48] <nonym> 98 works sort of, 2000 doesn't really work
[04:49] <justin__> nonym: Doesn't work as double boot ? or altogether?
[04:49] <Samuli^> flannel, it's pretty annoying though, how grub and the kernel have different designations.
[04:49] <jerryb> hey anyone know how to make glxgears spit out the frame rate nowadays?
[04:49] <quiet> justin__: we know windows doesn't work as in altogether  ;)
[04:49] <justin__> Cause I would be the first to say that Windows 2000, is probably the only windows that "works" ever...
[04:49] <Flannel> jerryb: glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[04:50] <justin__> quiet: Well it all depends on what you want to do with your PC, if your a hardcore gamer for instance :P
[04:50] <quiet> 2000 and XP both work rather well... if you keep them off the internet.
[04:50] <Flannel> jerryb: or glxgears -printfps, if you don't want to type that much
[04:50] <justin__> quiet, indeed
[04:50] <justin__> Well anyways enough of that before we get offtopic hehe
[04:50] <jerryb> Flannel, thanks
[04:50] <quiet> they should make a Ubuntu theme for Litestep or BBLean
[04:51] <quiet> :)
[04:51] <quiet> probably is one... i dunno.. i don't use either, actually.
[04:51] <Samuli^> neither option works for my version of glxgears.
[04:52] <nonym> my hd's are a bit messy, win98 starts to boot, 2000 doesn't really boot
[04:52] <nonym> anyway, so far I have "sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[04:52] <nonym> then "chaonloader +1
[04:52] <nonym> chainloader +1
[04:52] <nonym> probably
[04:52] <Samuli^> nonym, yes.
[04:52] <nonym> ok
[04:53] <thenetduck> hello does anyone know what channel to go to for wireless help????
[04:53] <nonym> I put the chainloader +1 in a document called grub.conf ?
[04:53] <Samuli^> keep the chainloader stuff and map your hd's vice versa so windows will think it sits happily in the first HD.
[04:53] <quiet> this one thenetduck, ask your question.
[04:53] <adc> hello, having issues installing libsdl-dev , unmet dependencies
[04:54] <thenetduck> sweet, thakns quiet, I cant configure my wireless card, and it shows up as eth2 instead of a wlan .... I have had it working before so I know it works with ubuntu, but i cant seem to configure it
[04:54] <nonym> Samuli, I don't understand, would it help if I changed the cables and BIOS setting, so my other drive is Primary master?
[04:54] <nwbreneman> No one can tell me how to remove a file/directory link?
[04:54] <thenetduck> quiet i just set upa router (Net Gear) and can't get connectd to the internet on my desktop that uses a wireless card
[04:55] <Samuli^> nonym, that would probably help too, but really. it's /boot/menu.lst you want to chance.
[04:55] <nonym> ok
[04:55] <nonym> that's an Xubuntu file, right?
[04:55] <thenetduck> quiet right now im using my labtop that has apple on it.... thats how im connected to the internet....
[04:55] <Samuli^> nonym, first take a copy of that "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[04:55] <thenetduck> quiet, i really don't know what to do... as to get my internet working for my desktop
[04:56] <nonym> ok
[04:56] <Samuli^> nonym, yes, it should be in your root directory.
[04:56] <nonym> ok, I'm in Windows xp but I have access to the xubuntu partition...
[04:56] <chuckyp> Anyone know of a way to copy my panel configuration etc.. to another users?
[04:56] <chuckyp> Gnome panel that is.
[04:57] <chuckyp> and I'm also looking for a way to display the user names on the login screen so that a person just clicks on the username and just enters their password
[04:58] <Samuli^> nonym, ok, so you can edit the menu.lst, open it up.
[04:58] <nonym> ok, actually I can do that right now...
[04:58] <quiet> thenetduck: is it a broadcom chipset, by chance?
[04:58] <thenetduck> err.. not sure how do I  find that out quiet?
[04:59] <quiet> thenetduck: lspci or tell me the card model.
[04:59] <Flannel> chuckyp: go to administration > login screen
[04:59] <Flannel> chuckyp: and you'll see a few options (some of which show usernames)
[04:59] <thenetduck> it says its a VIA Technologies, Inc
[05:00] <thenetduck> quiet VT8237
[05:00] <quiet> umm... no.
[05:00] <nonym> the line breaks are of course messed up, but I am looking at a copy of menu.lst now
[05:00] <quiet> that's not wireless... i don't think.
[05:00] <thenetduck> quiet VIA Technologies
[05:00] <bmcfarli> hey guys, for some reason I cant rename my harddrives. Any suggestions?
[05:00] <quiet> AFAIK VIA doesn't make wireless chipsets
[05:00] <quiet> they make ethernet chips.
[05:00] <thenetduck> quiet forget what i just said ...
[05:01] <thenetduck> quiet ya it says Broadcom Corporation BCM
[05:01] <^^Bran^^> happy gnome w/ browser does if I recall chuck
[05:01] <quiet> there we go.
[05:01] <adc> can someone help me with some dependency hell?
[05:01] <Flannel> !ask
[05:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:01] <adc> i did earlier
[05:02] <cafuego> adc: We don't support redhat, sorry ;-)
[05:02] <Samuli^> nonym, so.. it should have title windows xp or similar towards the end of file.
[05:02] <adc> hving issues with libsdl-dev
[05:02] <Flannel> adc: 'unmet dependencies' which ones?
[05:02] <cafuego> adc: Missing depends? Do you have any non-official repositories enabled?
[05:02] <nonym> ok, I'll search for "windows" -- impossible to read it manually with messed up line breaks...
[05:02] <adc> libglu1-mesa-dev
[05:03] <adc>   libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.4.1-0ubuntu8) but 6.5.1-cvs20060628 is to be installed
[05:03] <cafuego> adc: Are you on edgy?
[05:03] <adc> this is dapper
[05:03] <GaiaX11> How to open file.tex ?
[05:03] <Flannel> adc: where did you get libsdl-dev?
[05:04] <adc> apt
[05:04] <zenofjazz> Good evening again, wizards of Ubuntu
[05:04] <zenofjazz> Same question as last night...
[05:04] <nonym> are the # signs line beginnings in linux text files seen in Windows?
[05:04] <cafuego> adc: There is no 'libsdl-dev' in Dapper.
[05:04] <adc> oops, libsdl1.2-dev
[05:04] <chuckyp> Flannel, so I have to pick a login theme with a user browser?
[05:04] <zenofjazz> Yes.   the "#" character indicates its a comment
[05:04] <sbk> folks -- I'm looking for the hp-setup utility that (in theory) comes along with hplip; but it appears to be missing. Is it available as part of some other package?
[05:04] <nonym> ok
[05:04] <Flannel> chuckyp: right
[05:05] <Samuli^> nonym, some of them are.
[05:05] <chuckyp> ahh hrm...
[05:05] <nonym> ok
[05:05] <nonym> I have found Windows mentioned at the end of the menu.lst document
[05:05] <zenofjazz> yes.  that's for if you are going to dual boot.
[05:05] <Samuli^> nonym, actually, all of them, but they're not the only ones that are a start of a line.
[05:05] <cafuego> adc: The libglu1-mesa(-dev) packages here are both 6.5.1+cvs20060824. Are you package lists up to date?
[05:06] <nonym> I see
[05:06] <sess> I need a good development library, any suggestions?
[05:06] <adc> yes
[05:07] <adc> apt-get update right ?
[05:07] <zenofjazz> I am having a GRUB problem, on a ubuntu server setup.
[05:07] <nonym> could this be a line, and the correct one? :
[05:07] <sess> sorry, not development library, I meant Development IDE
[05:07] <nonym> "# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS# on /dev/hdb1title		Microsoft Windows XP Home Editionroot		(hd1,0)savedefaultmakeactivemap		(hd0) (hd1)map		(hd1) (hd0)chainloader	+1
[05:07] <sess> C++, JAVA, and if possible, Id like it to also do php/html coding
[05:07] <adc> hmmm i tried compiz awhile ago maybe there are leftovers from that. thnks for verifying it works for you. i'll let you know in a few
[05:07] <Samuli^> nonym, so anyways, this is a bit hard now that you have skewed text-editor.. you should have there something like root (1,something) and them makedefault, saveactive etc?
[05:07] <sess> Ill be making SDL apps
[05:08] <chuckyp> Flannel, last question is do you know where gnome stores settings for the pannels?  I want to mimic my pannel layout in another users home
[05:08] <Samuli^> err, savedefault, makeactive.
[05:08] <Flannel> chuckyp: no idea
[05:08] <nonym> ok, savedefault, makeactive
[05:08] <nonym> I'll look for that
[05:09] <Samuli^> nonym, they should be right after the "title microsoft windows xp..."
[05:09] <nonym> yes, I found that
[05:09] <zenofjazz> chuckyp: yes. in your /home/<username> directory there are . directories for the various settings.
[05:09] <fokuslee> i have a prob with running sudo dpkg-reconfigure can someone help me?
[05:09] <nonym> ok
[05:09] <nonym> I have, "Windows NT/2000/XP (loader)
[05:09] <nonym> root		(hd0,0)
[05:09] <nonym> savedefault
[05:09] <nonym> makeactive
[05:09] <nonym> chainloader	+1
[05:09] <nonym> (sorry)
[05:09] <Samuli^> nonym, ok, great.
[05:10] <nonym> the linebreaks seems were part of the document
[05:10] <Samuli^> nonym, after makeactive add to a separate line: "map (hd0) (hd1)" without the quotes.
[05:10] <nonym> ok
[05:11] <hou5ton> My video isn't working properly on some sites .... for example, on this site, only the sound works . not the actual video??   http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/
[05:11] <Samuli^> nonym, and again to a new line map (hd1) (hd0) and that should hopefully do the trick.
[05:11] <nonym> I'll write it down and do it from inside Linux
[05:11] <nonym> ok
[05:11] <nonym> thanks
[05:11] <nonym> map (hd1) (hd0)
[05:11] <nonym> then
[05:11] <Samuli^> you might need to change "root" to "rootnoverify" too, but try it like that and if it doesn't work and that.
[05:11] <Samuli^> and = add
[05:11] <nonym> ok
[05:12] <zenofjazz> Samuli... sounds like you know your grub?
[05:12] <fokuslee>  i have a prob with running sudo dpkg-reconfigure can someone help me?
[05:12] <adc> hmmm, 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 is the "latest version"
[05:12] <Samuli^> and take the backup before you change anything "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup"
[05:13] <Samuli^> zenofjazz, I've had my problems with it. :)
[05:13] <zenofjazz> can I bounce a problem off you, Samuli?
[05:13] <nonym> ok
[05:13] <nonym> what does sudo cp do?
[05:13] <Samuli^> if I can help.
[05:13] <zenofjazz> ok, I'll msg you, as it's a long description
[05:13] <Samuli^> sudo grants you 'super-user' status and cp is copy.
[05:13] <nonym> ok
[05:14] <hou5ton> My video isn't working properly on some sites .... for example, on this site, only the sound works . not the actual video??   http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/
[05:14] <hou5ton> any ideas?
[05:14] <keegan> Hello Everyone, I recently installed XFCE 4.4RC1 onto my Xubuntu.  I tried installing a theme from xfce-look and I put it in the folder with all the other themes, but it never loads up in the look and feel settings?  Anyone know the cause of this?
[05:14] <Samuli^> nonym, in linux you need to be 'administrator' to mingle with system-files like menu.lst, that's what sudo grants you for that command.
[05:14] <adc> cafuego: apt-get update doesnt seem to be updating it
[05:15] <nonym> ok, I already made a root password, which I read isn't good in ubuntu though
[05:15] <cafuego> adc: Maybe your mirror is out of sync.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> nonym,  its a bad habbit.
[05:15] <eyequeue> !root > nonym
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:15] <nonym> btw., I didn't see the rest of the line, so that's why I first thought sudo ch was the whole command
[05:15] <adc> archive.ubuntu.com
[05:16] <nonym> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[05:16] <nonym> ...is the whole line, I noticed finally :)
[05:16] <quiet> it's not bad habit to have a root account, it's bad habit to run as root for day-to-day operations.
[05:16] <adc> hmmm, mybe it wants me to restart with the patched kernel
[05:16] <quiet> i guess disabling root for the people that aren't responsible enough to use it is the easiest option for the security team though.
[05:17] <quiet> if you know how to use root responsibly, then you know how to unlock it.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> its not really disabled . just direct logging to root is siaabled
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> quiet,  yea - i think of it as an integellience test. :P
[05:17] <quiet> heh... indeed.
[05:17] <eyequeue> i can't see much that sudo -i can't handle
[05:18] <Chon_Lee> what's the easiest way to browse for a package via the web
[05:18] <nonym> I assume the sudo cd command makes some automatic backup that can be restored "in case.."?
[05:18] <thenetduck> quiet ok done doing what you saoid to do
[05:18] <eyequeue> Chon_Lee, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:18] <Chon_Lee> ty
[05:18] <quiet> thenetduck: okay, back to my channel. :)
[05:18] <eyequeue> Chon_Lee, apt-cache search, on your own machine btw :)
[05:19] <hydrozen> anybody can help me out getting ati drivers to work? i installed ubuntu-fglrx-386... did what they said to do... but then x wont start...
[05:19] <fokuslee> how do u get the name of your kernel?
[05:19] <jrib> fokuslee: uname -r
[05:20] <jrib> fokuslee: actually man uname says you want -s, but I think you want -r
[05:20] <zenofjazz> Hey there BSDFOX!
[05:20] <sorush20> hi .. I have the same problem as here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204007, my /etc folder is missing completely
[05:20] <zenofjazz> still fighting the GRUB issue from last night.
[05:20] <fokuslee> jrib this is what i get
[05:20] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure `uname -r`
[05:20] <fokuslee> Package `2.6.17.11-custom' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:20] <sorush20> why do you think this happens?
[05:21] <zenofjazz> Samuli, did you see the mesgs?
[05:21] <fokuslee> jrib, any ideaSS?
[05:21] <jrib> fokuslee: you probably want linux-image-`uname -r`
[05:21] <Madpilot> OK, that was slightly creepy - lilo just left IRC for the last time...
[05:21] <fokuslee> jrib, thx i will try dat
[05:21] <fokuslee> ur the bset
[05:21] <fokuslee> best
[05:22] <nonym> eyequeue, thanks :)
[05:22] <eyequeue> nonym, no prob
[05:22] <nonym> I don't really know anything about Linux, but I've tried another Linux a little bit
[05:22] <sorush20> can I run fsck on a mounted partition?
[05:22] <nonym> a knoppix remaster...
[05:23] <nonym> I'm keeping that link :)
[05:23] <fokuslee> jrib, i tried linux-image- and linux-kernel
[05:23] <fokuslee> it still complaints that pacakge not installed
[05:24] <nonym> why are help files on https btw ?
[05:24] <jrib> fokuslee: can I see how you wrote it?
[05:24] <eyequeue> nonym, the wiki sends passwords
[05:24] <fokuslee> ok i will paste in pastebin
[05:24] <eyequeue> nonym, hence https
[05:24] <fokuslee> jrib brb
[05:24] <nonym> ok
[05:25] <jwickard> I need a package that can monitor http/smtp servers and notify me if they go down.  I've seen nagios before and that's currently what I'm planning on installing.  I just thought I'd ask and see if anyone had any suggestions of different software that they like better.
[05:25] <zenofjazz> ***OFF reading about GRUB
[05:25] <b0ysc0ut> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:25] <nonym> secure wiki :)
[05:25] <b0ysc0ut> anybody can help me?
[05:25] <sorush20> what does this memo mean?
[05:25] <Damn_Yankee> fokuslee: as root-user updatedb then locate-i linux-2.6.17.11
[05:25] <zenofjazz> Nagios is nice.. There's BigBrother, and a few more.
[05:25] <sorush20> (notice) (N) 1   imMute             1 week 5 days (15h 44m 10s) ago
[05:26] <eyequeue> Damn_Yankee, sudo updatedb
[05:26] <keegan> Hello Everyone, I recently installed XFCE 4.4RC1 onto my Xubuntu.  I tried installing a theme from xfce-look and I put it in the folder with all the other themes, but it never loads up in the look and feel settings?  Anyone know the cause of this?
[05:26] <eyequeue> Damn_Yankee, sudo locate ...
[05:26] <fokuslee> Damn_Yankee,  ok i did those two things now what?
[05:27] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > Damn_Yankee
[05:27] <Damn_Yankee> fokusleewhat's it say?
[05:27] <nonym> thanks everyone for help, especially Samuli^ and ^^Bran^^ for showing me this channel :)
[05:27] <eyequeue> Damn_Yankee, i mentally blurred your line with the previous, thought you were asking what that meant, sorry
[05:27] <fokuslee> Damn_yankee it just printed a whole bunch of files
[05:28] <fokuslee> i mean like the location of whole bunch of stuff
[05:28] <Chon_Lee> compiling programs gets me sooo frustrated
[05:28] <Damn_Yankee> eyequeue: yes,thats the default way,i use su&root cause its more secure than sudo,just my own pref.;and n.p.:)
[05:28] <dxy> anyone got this error  nmap, nexthost: failed to determine route
[05:29] <zenofjazz> Samuli, still no ideas, here, on GRuB
[05:29] <Samuli^> I hear a lot of people complaining about the use of sudo and no root-account in ubuntu. I wonder why.
[05:29] <eyequeue> Samuli^, lol
[05:29] <Chon_Lee> if you want root just do sudo -s
[05:29] <eyequeue> Samuli^, agreed
[05:29] <Flannel> Samuli^: because they come from places that have root, and don't take the time to understand the differences before complaining
[05:29] <Chon_Lee> it'll lock you in sudo
[05:29] <Dasnipa] [> Samuli^, its not much to complain about you can add it later
[05:30] <Samuli^> Dasnipa] [, the thing is, I feel, that there's no need for separate root account. You can just use your OS as a normal user and become super-user when needed.
[05:30] <Dasnipa] [> right. enabling root doesnt take away the functionality of sudo though.
[05:31] <Damn_Yankee> Flannel: i wasn't complaining,simply stating my personal preference,and i totally understand
[05:31] <Chon_Lee> is there a catch all package that will install most common tools for compiling programs?
[05:31] <Madpilot> Chon_Lee, build-essential
[05:31] <cpk1> !gcc
[05:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:31] <Samuli^> I think it's a lot better default than having a separate root and the need to log-out/log-in to do root-stuff.
[05:31] <Flannel> Damn_Yankee: I wasn't saying you were.  But, Samuli^ mentioned that most people complain about sudo/no root, which they do.
[05:32] <Damn_Yankee> yes,agreed
[05:32] <Damn_Yankee> actually i use both:)
[05:32] <Samuli^> zenofjazz, I really don't know :)
[05:33] <zenofjazz> nods.
[05:33] <zenofjazz> I never have the EASY problems.
[05:33] <Samuli^> zenofjazz, maybe it's just a bug in the motherboard bios, if there's chance to update it, try that first.
[05:34] <zenofjazz> I'm gonna try to partition sda so that sda1 is a small boot partition, then sda2 is / and sda something else is swap
[05:34] <zenofjazz> see if that will help
[05:34] <b0ysc0ut> im having problems with my source list..keep gettin this msg:
[05:34] <Samuli^> zenofjazz, you're using the motherboard raid controller right?
[05:34] <sorush20> can I run fsck on a mounted partition?
[05:34] <b0ysc0ut> The list of sources could not be read.
[05:35] <Damn_Yankee> Chon_Lee: build-essential is the package i believe
[05:35] <Chon_Lee> hmm... keeps complaining about missing zlib but I have installed zlib and zlibc along with others
[05:36] <Samuli^> Chon_Lee, while compiling?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> be sure you install the -dev packages as well.
[05:37] <Samuli^> what I was about to say.
[05:37] <zenofjazz> Samuli, nope.  SATA Card has RAID0/1, but I'm doing it in software.
[05:37] <Damn_Yankee> Chon_Lee: try apt-get -f install
[05:38] <Samuli^> zenofjazz, motherboard sata-controllers with raid are always software.
[05:38] <Chon_Lee> it's not a package Damn_Yankee
[05:38] <Damn_Yankee> hmmm
[05:38] <Dasnipa] [> rofl
[05:38] <zenofjazz> ok. SATA isn't on the motherboard. it's a separate controller card.
[05:38] <zenofjazz> motherboard is ALL NATIVE SCSI
[05:38] <jrib> !compile > Chon_Lee
[05:38] <Dasnipa] [> if you read that without realizing ' Damn_Yankee ' is a nick that is really funny
[05:39] <Damn_Yankee> Chon_Lee:  maybe they are not in your path statement,its in /etc/environment(path i mean )
[05:39] <jrib> Chon_Lee: (you need the corresponding -dev packages probably)
[05:39] <bmcfarli> hey guys, for some reason i have no permission to do anything on my computer. Any suggestions?
[05:39] <cpk1> ask it nicely?
[05:39] <Dasnipa] [> sudo.
[05:40] <Damn_Yankee> bmcfarli: or edit /etc/groups
[05:40] <joaquinz> hi!
[05:40] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, you don't mean the ntfs-partition you just mounted?
[05:40] <joaquinz> does anybody know if is it possible tu run 3d acceleration with ati 9600xt using radeon open source drivers?
[05:41] <Caplain_> wow its dead tonight
[05:41] <bmcfarli> lol nope, now I cant rename drives, I cant even change dates on my date book
[05:41] <joaquinz> ?
[05:41] <Dasnipa] [> bmcfarli, you talking ntfs partition?
[05:41] <bmcfarli> nope i am talking programs changing drive names on the places menu that type of stuff
[05:42] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, neither can I :)
[05:43] <bmcfarli> So it isnt possible? it has to be possible, this is linux....
[05:43] <Dasnipa] [> of course its possible in some manner
[05:44] <jrib> somehow? yes
[05:44] <orangey> hey all!
[05:45] <orangey> is there a list somewhere of all the security updates to dapper?
[05:45] <bmcfarli> yeah i would rather just give me all the permission there is, and if i fubar my computer that my problem
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking i sleected the drives and did properties. and renamed them some how...
[05:45] <rkroetch> Hi, I am considering switching to another distro from slackware. Has anyone from slack switched to Ubuntu, any general perceptions?
[05:45] <inglor> it's good
[05:45] <orangey> rkroetch: what's your level of expertise?
[05:46] <inglor> ubuntu is a good distro, very simple, does everything right,
[05:46] <rkroetch> orangey, I compiled my own GCC Glibc and working on an X-Server
[05:46] <inglor> ubuntu is great if you actually need a computer to work with and not mess with
[05:46] <rkroetch> I would rather manually edit a text file than use a GUI... But having a GUI available is not a bad deal.
[05:46] <inglor> if you want something to mess with, ubuntu isn't the best, but if you want an actual work computer, ubuntu is ideal
[05:46] <rkroetch> (for configuration)
[05:46] <orangey> rkroetch: That doesn't tell me much personally..
[05:47] <theTruth_> can someone pls help me! I think I have a trojan!  I ran chkrootkit and it reported the following: Checking `lkm'... You have     1 process hidden for readdir command
[05:47] <theTruth_> You have     1 process hidden for ps command
[05:47] <theTruth_> chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[05:47] <orangey> rkroetch: have you tried gentoo?
[05:47] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, you'd probably do that in no-time though, and you don't want that not for a simple renaming.
[05:47] <orangey> rkroetch: it sounds like you want a computer to tinker with as much as use.
[05:47] <inglor> in that case, ubuntu would probably not be ideal for you (rkroetch)
[05:47] <rkroetch> orangey, I don't like how emerge encourages you to NOT compile your own problems
[05:47] <sky123> orlock: are the filetypes in the Maildir on SME unique?? or can one migrate to those assuming you have maildirs on another server..
[05:47] <EnsignRedshirt> orangey: Security updates: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[05:47] <inglor> it's a great distro for working, but you probably want something that needs more messing
[05:47] <orangey> rkroetch: the way I think of it is that Ubuntu is a binary gentoo. : )
[05:48] <bmcfarli> Samuli^, well I could really use it at this point. then I would change back.
[05:48] <orangey> the packages are always up to date..
[05:48] <theTruth_> anyone help me get rid off a trojan horse?
[05:48] <inglor> have you tried straightforward debian?
[05:48] <sorush20> how do I burn an iso image in ubuntu?
[05:48] <orangey> you can always get new repositories..
[05:48] <Dasnipa] [> theTruth_, a trojan? on linux?
[05:48] <inglor> theTruth_, just delete it :P?
[05:48] <rkroetch> I also want cutting-edge. I would love to be able to get XGL working etc with work.
[05:48] <inglor> Dasnipa, there are plenty of trojans for linux
[05:48] <orangey> it's slightly less stable that gentoo if you go to unstable, but not by tooo much.
[05:48] <vik> orangey: right click on it, then "burn to disc"
[05:48] <Dasnipa] [> i know that
[05:48] <inglor> rkroetch, xgl IS amazing
[05:48] <vik> sorush20: right click on it, then "burn to disc"
[05:48] <orangey> vic: thank you. I think you mean that to sorush20
[05:49] <rkroetch> If you've ever tried to compile Xorg 7.0 from scratch to get 3d-Accell for it... You'll hate doing it
[05:49] <vik> d'oh
[05:49] <rkroetch> I promise
[05:49] <theTruth_> Dasnipa] [: I ran chkrootkit and it reported the following: Checking `lkm'... You have 1 process hidden for readdir command. You have 1 process hidden for ps command Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed.
[05:49] <theTruth_> inglor: deltete what?
[05:49] <inglor> rkroetch, have you considered SuSe for XGL usage? Again, ubuntu is more of a work-ready distro, it's great and simple, one app for one task mostly, it's perfect
[05:49] <orangey> rkroetch: it really sounds as though you would be happiest getting things going with gentoo if you can resolve your issues there.
[05:49] <vik> orangey: we can all do with a reminder now and again :)
[05:49] <inglor> the trojan... google it and removal instructions
[05:49] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, if it's a windows partition I don't know if you can change the name "volume" for that, but you could always mount it somewhere else with mount --bind command.
[05:49] <orangey> vik: hahahah! thanks : )
[05:49] <Samuli^> if that is what you wan.
[05:49] <rkroetch> orangey, My problem with gentoo is when python breaks. Your system is trash :)
[05:49] <Samuli^> +t
[05:50] <inglor> anyone know how to make frozen bubble and xgl work together :P?
[05:50] <bmcfarli> Well the name now is New Volume
[05:50] <orangey> rkroetch: it has its problems no doubt..
[05:50] <orangey> rkroetch: but nothing will give the power you seem to want.
[05:50] <rkroetch> So the general concensus is Ubuntu doesn't let the user do much as far as under-the-hood work?
[05:50] <orangey> rkroetch: unstable debian may come close.
[05:50] <cafuego> inglor: No. You can't. Reall.
[05:50] <inglor> no workaround?
[05:50] <orangey> rkroetch: you can.. but not at the compile flag level
[05:50] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, go to windows, re-format that drive, change it's name and enjoy the freedom :)
[05:50] <zenofjazz> Bah. you can do as much under the hood as you want.. just can't guarantee your machine will stay stable.
[05:50] <inglor> rkroetch, it lets the user do whatever he/she want, but it's not built for that
[05:50] <orangey> ok, next question.. how do I revert packages again?
[05:50] <orangey> to older versions?
[05:51] <rkroetch> Yeah, Perhaps I'll check out openSuSe or the like...
[05:51] <inglor> no workarounds for frozen-bubble and XGL together?
[05:51] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, or if you don't like what reads in your desktop delete the symlink and create a new one with name you like.
[05:51] <inglor> rkroetch, openSuse seems to be optimal for you
[05:51] <rkroetch> I reallly love slack, but don't like how non-cutting-edge it is
[05:51] <cafuego> inglor: none that I know of.
[05:51] <inglor> ubuntu is more of a work distro, the average joe can use it
[05:52] <theTruth_> anyone help me?  I ran chkrootkit and it says Possible LKM Trojan installed!  You have 1 process hidden for readdir command. You have 1 process hidden for ps command!  Anyone way to clean my system?
[05:52] <inglor> when I installed it on my girlfriend's laptop, she didn't even notice she is not using windows anymore
[05:52] <inglor> theTruth, try asking on the forums
[05:52] <theTruth_> inglor: what forums?
[05:52] <inglor> ubuntuforums
[05:52] <inglor> !forums
[05:52] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[05:52] <inglor> hey, how do I stop xgl during runtime?
[05:52] <inglor> compiz btw
[05:53] <inglor> in order to do something else with opengl
[05:53] <theTruth_> this happened after I upgraded kernel today
[05:53] <inglor> like play frozen bubble
[05:53] <rkroetch> Thank you all for your help, I might move over to an OpenSuSe IRC and talk to those folks
[05:53] <theTruth_> inglor: i updated kernel today
[05:53] <cafuego> inglor: You could run a normal Xorg on tty8.
[05:53] <cafuego> Or not run a broken X on tty7 ;-)
[05:53] <inglor> cafuego, it's a laptop, I don't want to waste battery life
[05:53] <cafuego> inglor: hahaha
[05:53] <inglor> honestly :P
[05:53] <cafuego> Then disable Xgl :-P
[05:54] <inglor> how :P?
[05:54] <cafuego> Run Xorg
[05:54] <inglor> windows gives me 3.5 hours of battely, ubuntu gives me 5 and a half and it's funner
[05:54] <inglor> I need to disable xgl from within the session
[05:54] <inglor> without having to log in/out
[05:54] <bmcfarli> Samuli^, but if i right click it, I can see where it says rename...so why cant i just rename it?
[05:54] <inglor> a command that reverts compiz-start
[05:54] <Dasnipa] [> the word 'funner' makes me cry
[05:54] <Damn_Yankee> the_Truth: install rkhunter its much much better
[05:54] <theTruth_> cafuego: any ideas?
[05:55] <theTruth_> Damn_Yankee: rkhunter doesnt report a problem
[05:55] <inglor> bmcfarli:, sure you have permission?
[05:55] <theTruth_> Damn_Yankee: but chkrootkit does
[05:55] <EnsignRedshirt> Dasnipa] [: Are you feeling saddier because of that word?
[05:55] <cafuego> theTruth_: Interpret the word "Possible".
[05:55] <bmcfarli> thats it, no. how do i set that?
[05:55] <Damn_Yankee> well,its better imoo than chkrootkit,i'd say its a false-positive,but ?
[05:56] <theTruth_> cafuego: I updated kernel today, and now chkrootkit reports..  Possible LKM Trojan installed!  You have 1 process hidden for readdir command. You have 1 process hidden for ps command!   any ideas?
[05:56] <jbroome> 0wned
[05:56] <theTruth_> Damn_Yankee: did you upgrade kernel?>
[05:56] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, probably because it's not one of the shortcuts you have placed but another program, or 'hard-coded' in nautilus.
[05:56] <theTruth_> Damn_Yankee: apt-get upgrade gives me a new kernel!  and i updated it today
[05:56] <theTruth_> Damn_Yankee: can you run chkrootkit?
[05:57] <Damn_Yankee> i have yes,and i get no rootkits,but if you changed kernel modules,it might alarm
[05:57] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, for better file manager, try thunar or konqueror :)
[05:57] <Samuli^> thtunar is very similar to nautilus, only better.
[05:57] <DanaG> How can I get Make to use colorgcc?
[05:58] <sess> ubotu: cpu frequency
[05:58] <ubotu> cpu: a console based LDAP user management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-8 (dapper), package size 137 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:58] <sess> ubotu frequency
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frequency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <UKMatt> does anyone in here have any experience with Xubuntu, i had some questions about it
[05:58] <inglor> ask away
[05:59] <sorush20> how do I  blank a cdrw in ubuntu?
[05:59] <DaveyJ> anyone know how to bridge an ethernet and firewire connection? i tried brctl and it wont let me add eth1 (firewire) :(
[05:59] <theTruth_> has anyone here upgraded to latest kernel?
[05:59] <UKMatt> my friend has a 700mhz, 52MB ram (how?), and about 5GB HD, and i wanted to put Xubuntu on, wanted to know how it would run on that
[05:59] <bimberi> sess: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' is a wild guess at what you're after :)
[06:00] <DanaG> 700mhz what?  Celeron?  P3?  Athlon?  Duron?
[06:00] <cafuego> theTruth_: Yah: Checking `lkm'... chkproc: nothing detected
[06:00] <UKMatt> Celeron
[06:00] <sess> anyone know of any CPU throttling softwaer for gnome?  My amd64 is killing my battery in just over 2 hours even when Im not doing anything
[06:00] <sky123> is anyone good with using sed or grep here??
[06:00] <sky123> I need to change a part of a file name
[06:00] <cafuego> UKMatt: 64Mb with 12Mb shared for video.
[06:00] <DanaG> Set up powernowd and cpufrequtils.
[06:00] <sess> bimberi: Im really looking for a way to automatically slow down and speed up my cpu based on useage scale
[06:00] <sky123> with using unix commands
[06:00] <inglor> sess, joining the question, longer battery life would be nice although I'm getting much better usage than with windows
[06:00] <sky123> here is the change --
[06:00] <bimberi> sess: ah, kk
[06:00] <cafuego> sess: powernowd
[06:01] <sky123>  hi guys hope you can help me with a simple linux script or line command to change a part of file name to something else.. for example i want to change - 1158572064.V309I2800008f.localhost.localdomain:2,S   1158572064.V309I2800008f.monet:2,S  can someone help out??
[06:01] <DanaG> Add a "CPU scaling monitor" to the panel.
[06:01] <UKMatt> cafuego, ooh didn't know that
[06:01] <eyequeue> sky123, this may seem odd, but you're not afraid of perl are you?
[06:01] <eyequeue> rename (1)           - renames multiple files
[06:01] <eyequeue> rename (3posix)      - rename a file
[06:01] <eyequeue> rename (2)           - change the name or location of a file
[06:01] <eyequeue> oops
[06:01] <cafuego> UKMatt: just guessing :-)
[06:01] <DanaG> Also, if you want to be able to change the governor, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[06:01] <eyequeue> sky123, that is written by larry wall, in perl, heh
[06:01] <sess> cafuego: thanks
[06:01] <UKMatt> Any idea how Xfce would handle on that computer?
[06:01] <bmcfarli> also I cant add dates to my calendar
[06:02] <bmcfarli> says read only
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> DanaG: Just a guess: define CC=colorgcc, and be sure your Makefile uses $(CC) to compile?
[06:02] <sess> inglor: I can't tell if I am or not, namely when I was using it under windows, I really never did anything for extremely long periods of time before I would let it suspend
[06:02] <sess> also suspend seems to crash my laptop, but hibernate works well
[06:02] <DanaG> Where would I define that?
[06:02] <sess> how can I attempt to fix suspend functionality?
[06:02] <sky123> eyequeue - hmmm..okay... id basically just like to change a part of the file name which reoccurs in a directory with multiple files in it....what is the command/ or perl script??
[06:02] <eyequeue> sky123, rename
[06:03] <UKMatt> alright well, guess kno one knows, but on to my problem, I've installed flash on Ubuntu gnome about 3 different ways, and I cant get it to work
[06:03] <sorush20> what file system is more crash resistent?
[06:03] <theTruth_> does anyone here know how I can clean Dapper from having LKM Trojan?
[06:03] <EnsignRedshirt> DanaG: On the command line should work, e.g: make CC=colorgcc  <other make options...>
[06:03] <efelton__> sorush20: try ext3, reiserfs, or JFS
[06:04] <sky123> eyequeue: so it would be like rename *.*.localhost.domain:* to  *.*.monet:* ? ie...how do i change it for multiple files??
[06:04] <beeberof> Hey guys, on K7 i386 ubuntu, how will I achieve playback of .flv video file??
[06:04] <eyequeue> sorush20, what you want is a "journalling" fs, and what efelton__ are exactly that :)
[06:04] <beeberof> sorry to bother :)
[06:04] <UKMatt> any help installing Flash?
[06:05] <DanaG> I'd like colorgcc to be used by default.
[06:05] <sorush20> efelton__: which is better ?
[06:05] <sorush20> efelton__: jfs?
[06:05] <eyequeue> sky123, it's been a while since i read tha man page, but it had so many nifty things i'd never done in sed, is what i was thinking ... it also seemed intuitive, but i'd hate to misadvise ou this late at night
[06:05] <efelton__> jfs is the IBM contributed Journelling File System.
[06:06] <eyequeue> s/ are/ said are/
[06:06] <sorush20> efelton__: so it would best, because I'm using ide hdd and my boot partiton or root partition just crashed and I lost /etc compeletely now reformating it and reinstalling the files..
[06:06] <EnsignRedshirt> DanaG: I think you'll need symlinks, but there is probably no point in my trying to guess exactly how it should work.  This link might help: http://csgsa.cs.clemson.edu/seminar/tools06/docbook/html/ch11s05.html
[06:07] <Damn_Yankee> the_Truth:  try this    http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~rakerman/trojan-port-table.html
[06:07] <theTruth_> Damn_Yankee: ok cheers
[06:07] <eyequeue> sorush20, if starting over, decide if you want to make a separate /home, so you can keep it when edgy comes out in late october :)
[06:07] <beeberof> Hey guys, on K7 i386 ubuntu, how will I achieve playback of .flv video file??
[06:07] <beeberof> sorry to bother :)
[06:08] <efelton__> would be good.. journalled file systems keep a transaction log, of everything that was happening to the drive.. (the Journal - think accounting journals)
[06:08] <efelton__> and it can figure out which transactions completed, and roll back any that didn't.
[06:08] <efelton__> in the event of a lockup or crash.
[06:08] <theTruth_> Damn_Yankee: LKM trojan dolesnt appear on that website
[06:08] <eyequeue> yeah, someone trips on the power cord, you'll be impressed how much nicer it is from ext2 days
[06:08] <surface-> i have a pages shows all command by example, http://www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[06:09] <bl4cktone> hey all new linux user here
[06:09] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> yarr who be requirin some of my assistings
[06:09] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> yarr
[06:09] <sorush20> eyequeue: are you saying edgy dosen't support jfs? I already have /home on a diff partition..
[06:09] <eyequeue> speaking of rebooting, i hope everyone has a short uptime!
[06:09] <sess> I read the manpage on powernowd and set my scaling method to 3, so how do I test it?
[06:09] <eyequeue> sorush20, no, though there are some kernel changes in edgy, it definitely supports all the usual linux fs's :)
[06:10] <bl4cktone> I've installed ubuntu 5.04 and am racking my brains about how to update to the new 6
[06:10] <sorush20> eyequeue: so jfs it is then..
[06:10] <eyequeue> sorush20, i only meant if you hadn't yet created a /home
[06:10] <sorush20> eyequeue: I have created a home
[06:10] <JaZy84> i have a question how can i install a *.bin
[06:10] <DanaG> aah, that seems to work.
[06:10] <DanaG> Thanks.
[06:11] <anmar> Hey guys. doing 'apt-get install git' for example, dpkg says that all my packages (lists them one by one) are not longer needed and can be remove with 'dpkg autoremove'. Where the heck did that come from? any idea how to get rid of it.
[06:11] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> anmar: thar be from the new and improved apt-get
[06:12] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> anmar: ya can ignar it
[06:12] <bl4cktone> I'm confused if I should be using apt-get to download the new version of ubuntu
[06:12] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> yarr
[06:12] <anmar> Caplain_, sweet... :)
[06:12] <EnsignRedshirt> JaZy84: Usually you cd to the directory containing the .bin, and run it, e.g.:
[06:12] <bl4cktone> pass the grog my matties!
[06:12] <fokuslee> what there is a new version of ubuntu?
[06:12] <EnsignRedshirt> JaZy84: cd directory_where_bin_is
[06:12] <EnsignRedshirt> JaZy84: ./file.bin
[06:12] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> bl4cktone: arr tis not recommended yet
[06:13] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> bl4cktone: arr teh grog
[06:13] <bl4cktone> 6.06
[06:13] <EnsignRedshirt> JaZy84: But the standard answer is *really*:  What are you trying to install?
[06:13] <eyequeue> fokuslee, current is 6.06.1, development is edgy
[06:13] <sess> anyone actually used powernowd??
[06:13] <sess> ubotu: powernowd
[06:13] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:13] <JaZy84> well i'm trying to install coldfusion mx 7.02
[06:13] <fokuslee> eyequeue thx
[06:13] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> bl4cktone: arr that be the current version and you can upgrade from 5.10 using apt
[06:13] <JaZy84> enabl
[06:13] <sorush20> I'm in live mode what is my hdc?
[06:13] <JaZy84> EnsignRedshirt
[06:13] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> !upgrade > bl4cktone
[06:13] <JaZy84> thanks i think i can handle that
[06:14] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> arr where be me matey ubotu??
[06:14] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> !upgrade
[06:14] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:14] <sess> even though Im running powernowd, my cpu useage according to top is 0.3% with 99.7% idle.  Why is my cpu frequency still at 1500mhz, (down from 1800mhz at least)
[06:14] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> bl4cktone: ^^
[06:14] <EnsignRedshirt> JaZy84: Cool, good luck!
[06:15] <sess> it should have dropped to 533 (if this is using the same frequency steps as windows)
[06:15] <EnsignRedshirt> JaZy84: You might have to make the file executable first: chmod u+x file.bin
[06:15] <JaZy84> ty
[06:15] <sorush20> i'm in gnome and I hate it.. I have no choice and its a long story .. I need to blank a cd how do I do it please?
[06:15] <JaZy84> cool thanks for the heads up
[06:16] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> sorush20: yarr use teh gnomebakerrrrrrrr
[06:16] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> 'sudo apt-get install gnomebaker'
[06:16] <zenofjazz> there, back in my own skin
[06:16] <fokuslee> i found this guy on ebay selling ubuntu live cd
[06:16] <JaZy84> lol
[06:17] <fokuslee> i just think its jacked up
[06:17] <JaZy84> how much did he want for it
[06:17] <fokuslee> like 5 bucks
[06:17] <anmar> who is the best guy to talk to about liveCD customization?
[06:17] <JaZy84> hah, that bastard
[06:17] <fokuslee> his been selling it for a while now power seller
[06:17] <fokuslee> lol
[06:17] <fokuslee> i no
[06:17] <fokuslee> poor bastards for buying it
[06:17] <JaZy84> oh well
[06:17] <JaZy84> indeed
[06:17] <zenofjazz> Nothing wrong with that...
[06:18] <inglor> nothing wrong with selling an ubuntu live cd if it has a nice cover and stuff and some extra
[06:18] <zenofjazz> you can sell FLOSS software.. just have to be able to provide the source.
[06:18] <fokuslee> ur making money off a free cd which u can get for free
[06:18] <inglor> meh, I can't justify that :P
[06:18] <inglor> unless he is doing it at production cost
[06:18] <naura> how would I change users (via sudo, say) non-interactively?
[06:18] <EnsignRedshirt> anmar: I don't know who the best person or (or even any person, for that matter), but you might be interested in this: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/
[06:18] <inglor> su username
[06:18] <zenofjazz> yes. and it's fully in line with FSF principals.
[06:18] <inglor> yep, it is, it's just not too nice :P
[06:18] <AbortD> anyone know how i can make rythm jukebox my default program?
[06:18] <Capt_Blood_Bucke> anmarrrr what be you wantin from your live cdssss
[06:18] <anmar> EnsignRedshirt, there is not ubuntu live CD team ?
[06:18] <zenofjazz> five bucks sounds about right, for cost of media, his time to burn them, etc.
[06:19] <theTruth_> has anyone removed LKM Trojan before?
[06:19] <fokuslee> zenofjazz i guess
[06:19] <inglor> zenofjazz, doubtly, the cost of media, time, and such is about 50 cents
[06:19] <inglor> unless it includes shipping, which I doubt, it's not a very fair trade
[06:19] <naura> that's not non-interactivem though
[06:19] <EnsignRedshirt> anmar: I'm sure there is, but I don't know who.  That was just a "FYI" link.  Feel free to ignore it. :)
[06:20] <naura> something like su username -p password
[06:20] <anmar> EnsignRedshirt, it looks very promising.
[06:20] <inglor> you can just su username
[06:20] <inglor> and enter the password when asked
[06:20] <seshomaru> hi , i installed ubuntu on my laptop and everything went fine but when i try to connect it to the internet I get 'could not find' server' .
[06:20] <anmar> EnsignRedshirt, thanks... I will definitely look into it
[06:20] <seshomaru> (im using another PC to talk now)
[06:20] <naura> but i need it to be non-interactive. like, doable via script.
[06:21] <zenofjazz> to someone who can't download download it (dial-up) it's a decent price.
[06:21] <inglor> seshomaru, what sort of connection?
[06:22] <seshomaru> inglor LAN
[06:22] <inglor> zenofjazz, not really :P
[06:22] <inglor> wait, so you just plugged the cable in?
[06:22] <inglor> is the interface itself up?
[06:22] <zenofjazz> inglor, you're welcome to your opinion...
[06:22] <inglor> seshomaru, answer me
[06:23] <Damn_Yankee> the_Truth:       http://www.data-recovery-reviews.com/howto-defeat-a-rootkit.htm
[06:23] <sorush20> due to complexities I have had to use nerolinux..
[06:23] <seshomaru> inglor, sorry LAN
[06:24] <inglor> does the lan DHCP?
[06:24] <hou5ton> My video isn't working properly on some sites .... for example, on this site, only the sound works . not the actual video??   http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/
[06:25] <hou5ton> any ideas?
[06:25] <inglor> codecs?
[06:25] <anmar> Guys.. is there a package that I can get that will get all the stuff I need to compile C code, like automake, make, gcc, aclocal, autoconf...etc?
[06:26] <EnsignRedshirt> anmar: build-essential
[06:26] <seshomaru> inglor , good question - i dont know ,it;s my work place , i think it should because XPlaptops connect to it no problem...
[06:26] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> anmar: build-essential me matey
[06:26] <AbortD> anyone know how i can make rythm jukebox my default program?
[06:26] <anmar> sweet
[06:26] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> seshomaru: what be your problem arr?
[06:27] <Xenguy> Hi - "6.06 kernel security update issue"?  I did the security update, rebooted, and now X is gone (an Nvidia module problem?).  Can anyone help?
[06:27] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> AbortD: default for what prograaaaam
[06:27] <AbortD> nevermind sorry
[06:27] <AbortD> i apologize
[06:27] <seshomaru> Capt_Blood_Ponin, cannot connect to internet at work on an ubuntu laptop
[06:27] <AbortD> .mp3
[06:28] <kendals> How can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?
[06:28] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, did you upgrade both kernel packages (image/restricted modules) and nvidia-glx ?
[06:28] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> AbortD: right click on an mp3 file
[06:29] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> go to properrrrrrties
[06:29] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> yarr
[06:29] <AbortD> go to properties
[06:29] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: I *thought* both were included, but I don't know for sure
[06:29] <AbortD> then there is a tab :)
[06:29] <AbortD> i want to be a pirate :|
[06:29] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, are you using 386 or 686 kernel?
[06:30] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: looks like 386
[06:30] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, to be sure use: uname -r
[06:30] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: confirmed, 386
[06:30] <Xenguy> 2.6.15-27-386
[06:30] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, and to be sure you have both (image/restricted) do: "sudo apt-get install linux-386"
[06:31] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: K, sec
[06:31] <UKMatt> can someone help me get my flash working?
[06:31] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: looks like 'restricted-modules' might be the problem
[06:32] <Born_In_Xixax> what's the problem UKMatt
[06:32] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, it's downloading stuff right?
[06:32] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: yes, I'm waiting
[06:32] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, i've put it on every way i knwo how and it never works
[06:32] <Born_In_Xixax> hmm
[06:32] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: OK, I'm going to try rebooting to X - I predict you have solved the problem, so I thank you in advance :-)
[06:33] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: if not, I'll be back (no news is good news :-)
[06:33] <riddick> i got xgl working and i am trying to set the images for the cube.  when i use gconf-editor i don't have a lot of plugins loaded like i have seen on some of the help files.  i do have the compiz settings tool off the menu now, but when i set an image for cube it doesn't change.  any ideas?
[06:33] <kendals> How can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?
[06:34] <DBO> riddick, join #ubuntu-xgl please
[06:34] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> AbortD: sarrry
[06:34] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, just be back either way.
[06:34] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> AbortD: did it worrrrk?
[06:34] <dsatch> hi guys, I'm having a simple problem with tar...
[06:34] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: OK, TTYL
[06:34] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> dsatch: what be yer problem with taaarrrrrrrr
[06:34] <Born_In_Xixax> UKMatt, in Synaptic, enable all the repositories
[06:34] <dsatch> I read on the forums, --exclude=/home/test would exclude a directory, but it doesn't
[06:34] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, enable all?
[06:34] <Born_In_Xixax> be sure and 'Reload'
[06:34] <JoseStefan> tar can be very sticky, and ruins all your clothes :(
[06:34] <Born_In_Xixax> ya
[06:35] <Born_In_Xixax> then do a search for 'flashplugin-nonfree'
[06:35] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, what do you mean uncomment them?
[06:35] <dsatch> Capt_Blood_Ponin: arrgghh talk like a pirate day it be
[06:35] <Born_In_Xixax> what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:35] <marcrosoft> hello, im currently having scrolling problems in firefox or opera... is there a fix for this? can I update my nvidia drivers?
[06:35] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, oh i have that installed already
[06:35] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> dsatch: arr that it be
[06:35] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, and upgraded
[06:36] <Born_In_Xixax> ah
[06:36] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, gnome w/ swiftfox
[06:36] <Born_In_Xixax> it's only compatible with Flash version 7
[06:36] <JoseStefan> Capt_Blood_Ponin, i didnt savvy ubuntu had a pirate day
[06:36] <Born_In_Xixax> so a lot of sites are using 9 now
[06:36] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, what is
[06:36] <Born_In_Xixax> the Linux flash player
[06:36] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, and i think i have 7 on, thats the packaged that downloaded
[06:36] <AbortD> Capt_Blood_Ponin, it worked
[06:36] <Born_In_Xixax> yes
[06:36] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, oh..
[06:36] <Born_In_Xixax> that's as good as you can get on Linux
[06:36] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, as in like youtube?
[06:37] <Born_In_Xixax> riiiight
[06:37] <Born_In_Xixax> though i think youtube is ok
[06:37] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> dsatch: arr --exclude be for patterns
[06:37] <Born_In_Xixax> if you use something like Crossover Office, you can get a windows version of your browser running, and install the windows flash plugin into it
[06:37] <infidel> hq
[06:37] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, youtube is telling me i have javascript off or an old version, and javas is on
[06:37] <Born_In_Xixax> k
[06:38] <Capt_Blood_Ponin>               exclude files matching PATTERN
[06:38] <Capt_Blood_Ponin>        -X, --exclude-from=FILE
[06:38] <Capt_Blood_Ponin>               exclude files matching patterns listed in FILE
[06:38] <Xenguy> Ahhh, X again :-)
[06:38] <Born_In_Xixax> hmm
[06:38] <Born_In_Xixax> i just went a watched a video offf the front page of youtube
[06:38] <Born_In_Xixax> worked fine :/
[06:38] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, and google vid is saying to dl, it doesnt say anything
[06:39] <Born_In_Xixax> what browser
[06:39] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, front page doesn't work for me
[06:39] <JoseStefan> tar has many exclude options
[06:39] <zenofjazz> Ok.
[06:39] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, swiftfox
[06:39] <kendals> How can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?
[06:39] <Xenguy> Thanks again to whoever helped - I'm off to dreamland now :-)
[06:39] <Born_In_Xixax> have you tried another browser?
[06:39] <Born_In_Xixax> i.e. firefox
[06:39] <Capt_Blood_Ponin> dsatch: use  --exclude-from=FILE
[06:39] <zenofjazz> still no luck with grub
[06:39] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, not sure how to get to it, when i run firefox Swift opens
[06:39] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, would that be me?
[06:40] <dsatch> Capt_Blood_Ponin: yeah, doesn't quite do it, it reads patterns out of a file then
[06:40] <Born_In_Xixax> well, generally you can install the plugin by hand
[06:40] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: ahh, there you are - it's late and I thought your nick started with 's' :-)
[06:40] <Xenguy> JoseStefan: thanks again friend
[06:40] <EnsignRedshirt> dsatch: What command did you try, and what happened?
[06:40] <Born_In_Xixax> by creating a symlink to the flash .dll in the right plugins folder
[06:40] <JoseStefan> Xenguy, np
[06:40] <dsatch> tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys
[06:40] <dsatch> From: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[06:41] <JoseStefan> dsatch, i think you need to add wildcards to that
[06:41] <JoseStefan> dsatch, as --exlcude takes PATTERN
[06:42] <EnsignRedshirt> JoseStefan: I don't think a wildcoard is necessary---I just tried a simple example.
[06:42] <dsatch> Yeah, I saw the man page, had hoped this guy was right though :)
[06:42] <EnsignRedshirt> dsatch: Try putting the options *before* /  (shot in the dark)
[06:43] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, i've doen that
[06:43] <EnsignRedshirt> dsatch: but after backup.tgz
[06:43] <Born_In_Xixax> for example on my system, in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  there are a bunch of plugin .dlls and such
[06:43] <JoseStefan> EnsignRedshirt i always put -- options first then - options, and then the rest
[06:44] <dsatch> EnsignRedshirt: no luck
[06:44] <dsatch> EnsignRedshirt: I'm pretty sure the --exclude option just isn't working that way... maybe they are right with the patterns...
[06:44] <kendals> How can I chat AUDIO with other MSN users?
[06:44] <Born_In_Xixax> find 'libflashplayer.so' and copy it into the 'plugins' folder, and restart the browser
[06:45] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, its there, but i bet the problem is it isnt in some swiftfox folder somewhere i can't find
[06:46] <dsatch> wait... I rearranged it and it worked I think...
[06:46] <JoseStefan> dsatch: i always put -- options first then - options, and then the rest
[06:46] <Born_In_Xixax> it's there in your Firefox folder?  or the analagous Swiftfox folder..?
[06:47] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, its in the firefox folder, i can't find a single swiftfox folder, which is why i think it needs somethin in it and thats why
[06:47] <Born_In_Xixax> my bet is that the Synaptic installer doesn't recognize Swiftfox as a possible target, and doesn't automatically place the file for you
[06:47] <dsatch> it worked when I did tar cvpzf <filetosave> --exclude <dirtoignore> <roottosave>
[06:47] <JoseStefan> dsatch: and always had the dash at least to the 1st letter of the group
[06:47] <JoseStefan> dsatch: s/had/add
[06:47] <EnsignRedshirt> dsatch: Cool.
[06:47] <Born_In_Xixax> bah, just use Opera ;)
[06:48] <dsatch> thanks guys
[06:48] <Born_In_Xixax> well, you've exhausted my pitiful knowledge
[06:48] <Born_In_Xixax> good luck
[06:48] <UKMatt> fixed it!
[06:48] <UKMatt> fyi, in case you hear aboud it, it had to be saved into /opt/swiftfox/swiftfox/plugins
[06:49] <UKMatt> i could never find it b/c... opt?
[06:49] <Born_In_Xixax> ah, super
[06:49] <UKMatt> born_in_xixax, k, ty though
[06:50] <CppIsWeird> could anyone begin to instruct me on how one would begin to make a ubuntu that would function encryption-wise in this way: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/
[06:53] <DaveyJ> i cant figure this out!
[06:53] <DaveyJ> anyone know how to bridge an ethernet and firewire connection? i tried brctl and it wont let me add eth1 (firewire) :(
[06:54] <Crescendo_> Is submitting a password via vncserver safe?
[06:54] <Crescendo_> Could I use my strong password without it being sniffed easily?
[06:54] <tar_> Apache1 and PHP4 serve my index.php fine if I request /index.php in my URL, but if I request / alone, Apache just sends the source.
[06:54] <Crescendo_> IE, is it encypted.
[06:54] <cafuego> crescendo; if you tunnel it over ssh, yes.
[06:54] <cafuego> crescendo: Normally, I believe not.,
[06:55] <bl4cktone> Hey guys I'm update from 5.04 and am on step 2 of the upgrading with apt-get on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgradeNotes I can't seem to save the text it had me copy into the sources.list file it says "Could not save the file "home/bl4cktone/'/etc/apt/sources.list"  am I doing something wrong?
[06:56] <cwillu> My mouse just started jumping to the middle of the window when a window takes focus, anyone know why that could be?
[06:56] <Bonez_56> hi all, i apt-get upgraded this morning and now am running kernel 2.6.15-27-686
[06:56] <Damn_Yankee> bl4cktone: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> bl4cktone: Did you use sudo to edit the file?
[06:56] <bl4cktone> oh god...
[06:56] <bl4cktone> never mind...
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> bl4cktone: Not god, just Damn_Yankee
[06:56] <bl4cktone> thanks guys :)
[06:57] <Born_In_Xixax> Ubuntu saved you from yourself, lol
[06:57] <DaveyJ> (11:37:59 PM) Davey J: what were you thinking aboutttttt
[06:57] <DaveyJ> (11:38:13 PM) Liz Samis: your sexy ass
[06:57] <DaveyJ> (11:38:16 PM) Davey J: LOLOL
[06:57] <DaveyJ> SOI:GJKLSDCMSMKECIJ(SWER(GIJk
[06:57] <DaveyJ> i'm sorry
[06:57] <DaveyJ> that was totally the wrong channel
[06:57] <DBO> bingo
[06:57] <DBO> dont let it happen again =)
[06:57] <Bonez_56> hi all, i apt-get upgraded this morning and now am running kernel 2.6.15-27-686, and when I try to install VMWare server, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23947
[06:58] <cwillu> mouse jumping to the center of the window rather than where I left it;  anybody help?
[06:58] <Bonez_56> is there a bug in the new kernel release today?
[06:58] <Born_In_Xixax> Bonez, you need to download the linux-headers for your version of kernel
[06:58] <Born_In_Xixax> i think it's easiest to just 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-686'
[06:59] <Born_In_Xixax> which should keep you updated with matching headers from now on
[06:59] <Born_In_Xixax> then re-run the vmware install
[06:59] <Bonez_56> Born_In_Xixax: ahh silly me. thanks for that :)
[06:59] <starpause> i'm still trying to make mocp 2.4 run under 6.06, compiles without a hiccup but same error when i run it
[06:59] <Bonez_56> Born_In_Xixax: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` worked a treat
[07:00] <kedar> hey, I have a problem.
[07:00] <Born_In_Xixax> i think if you use 'linux-headers-686' that's a meta-package, and will update for you when the next kernel comes out and so forth
[07:00] <kedar> my wireless connection, up until now, has been working perfectly
[07:00] <Born_In_Xixax> so you don't have to manually get the latest exact kernel header version each time
[07:00] <kedar> but just this morning it stopped working
[07:00] <cwillu> pardon a moment of frustration
[07:00] <Bonez_56> Born_In_Xixax: yes I just did that too. thanks!
[07:01] <CharonX> Would anyone know why adobe does not work properly as a plugin in firefox ? I have installed firefox acroread acroread-plugins and mozilla-acroread but pdf's will not open in firefox. But adobe reader works fine ???
[07:01] <kedar> in the wireless settings, there are no network names to select
[07:01] <kedar> it's an empty menu
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> I always HATE it when pdfs open in the browser. :)
[07:01] <kedar> is anyone listening :-(
[07:01] <CharonX> I hate it when the open outside the browser :P
[07:02] <cpk1> kedar: just tell it the network to use
[07:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Sigh... so much hate...
[07:02] <kedar> yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
[07:02] <cpk1> kedar: also you could check to make sure it is picking up networks by doing iwlist scan
[07:02] <cwillu> EnsignRedshirt: whats the problem?
[07:02] <bl4cktone> hah 25mins to install 5.10 pretty cool it's download fast
[07:02] <kedar> hm it says
[07:02] <EnsignRedshirt> cwillu: Just read back a few lines.
[07:03] <kedar> eth1 - no scan results
[07:03] <kedar> but I've been using eth1 all the time
[07:03] <kedar> just today it stopped working?
[07:03] <The_Knowledge> Hey I am new to ubuntu  world. I am downloading it
[07:03] <The_Knowledge> Till then I want to know  everything about it
[07:03] <EnsignRedshirt> cwillu: (It was not really a serious comment. :) )
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> The_Knowledge,  be sure to burn the iso file to cd with a decent program like 'burn at once' or similer under windows.
[07:03] <cwillu> ah
[07:03] <kedar> is it a problem with my wireless card?
[07:04] <kedar> or something else, perhaps?
[07:04] <bl4cktone> so when I used gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and it didn't work why did taking out the gk make it work?
[07:04] <The_Knowledge> Dr willis  can you tell me good software for burning Iso to cd
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> The_Knowledge,  dont just use windows burning and make a cd with a .iso file on it as a single huge file. :) seen too many people do that.
[07:04] <kedar> cpk1?
[07:04] <Samuli^> kedar, eth1 isn't a wireless driver.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> The_Knowledge,  i just told you the name of one. :   'burn at once'
[07:04] <Born_In_Xixax> bl4cktone, dunno
[07:04] <kedar> ?
[07:04] <Samuli^> kedar, wireless are wlan'n'
[07:04] <The_Knowledge> thanks
[07:04] <JNeverMind> my install of ubuntu-server appeared to go fine. but wont boot after reboot.  theres 1 hd with swap and / is active
[07:05] <The_Knowledge> Dr willis
[07:05] <cwillu> grrr;  why is it doing this;  I'm gonna break something; mouse is centering on the main window of an application whenever that application gains focus, which means my pointer is jumping all over the screen;  :(
[07:05] <JNeverMind> can swap be the first partition  on a disk ?
[07:05] <The_Knowledge> Anylink for it
[07:05] <Born_In_Xixax> gksudo is just the graphical way of getting you password, vs giving it in the Terminal
[07:05] <kedar> wait, can you explain I'm sorry
[07:05] <Crescendo_> Is submitting a password via vncserver safe? (Encrypted)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> The_Knowledge,  linux tip #1 - learn to learn. :P google.com is your friend.
[07:05] <cwillu> Crescendo no
[07:05] <bl4cktone> I've heard  vnc had a problem with passwords
[07:05] <bl4cktone> but I'm dumb
[07:06] <kedar> the interface name for my wireless connection is eth1
[07:06] <marcrosoft> should glxinfo | grep direct output yes?
[07:06] <bl4cktone> just skim www.digg.com alot
[07:06] <The_Knowledge> Dr_willis  I have heared that its user  friendly so can I  Access my drivers on it as I have lots of  data on my drive
[07:06] <kedar> why is eth1 not working?
[07:06] <marcrosoft> i have the latest nvidia drivers installed with the envy script and xgl /compiz and i am getting no direct rendering
[07:06] <tar_> Crescendo_: It's not encrypted unless you tunnel it through something like SSH.
[07:06] <parisi> Hmm.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> The_Knowledge,  the term 'user friendly' means very little these days.. you shoudl be able ti access most anything from it.. however NTFS drives should be accesed in READ only mode. for safty
[07:07] <Crescendo_> Thanks, tar_ .
[07:07] <cafuego> marcrosoft: yeah, Xgl is not what ou'd call stable (or useful). if you need 3d, use Xorg.
[07:07] <Parisi> Compiz, yummi
[07:07] <kedar> :-(
[07:07] <raj> is there is any way to recover the data from linux by mistake i put rm
[07:07] <marcrosoft> aww
[07:07] <kedar> ok, my wireless connection doesn't work....
[07:07] <Crescendo_> Compiz is hawt.
[07:07] <marcrosoft> cafuego, so when running xgl it disables some 3d acceleration?
[07:07] <kedar> the interface name for this is eth1.
[07:07] <Crescendo_> Word is it ships with Edgy Eft?
[07:07] <Crescendo_> Is this true?
[07:07] <cwillu> heh;  if I turn on mouse-over window focus mode, I can make it snap back and forth between two apps over and over and over again
[07:07] <justin__> Parisi: Compiz yummy? lo...
[07:08] <kedar> but now all the network names from the menu don't show up...
[07:08] <cafuego> marcrosoft: it would appear so, yes. Pretty much any gl games don't run.
[07:08] <Parisi> justin__,  ya pretty, eye candy.
[07:08] <justin__> I do not understand how compiz serves any use.. except for fancy eye candy to off to my friends heh
[07:08] <kedar> under the settings...
[07:08] <MTecknology> So, what free web hosting service can I use to upload my files that will allow me to text advertise, and will let me use ASP and MS Access?
[07:08] <justin__> Parisi: Ahhh ;)
[07:08] <kedar> so...
[07:08] <kedar> is there anyone who can help me?
[07:08] <Parisi> justin__,  Just got it to work on my radeon 9200, crappy performance tho.
[07:08] <Crescendo_> YOU SPEAK FORBIDDEN NAMES, MTecknology !
[07:08] <kedar> perhaps?
[07:08] <justin__> kedar: Whats the problem?
[07:08] <cafuego> MTecknology: Maybe you're asking on the wrong irc channel.
[07:08] <marcrosoft> cafuego, i did see someone find a way to run games while having xgl, but it looked like a pain
[07:08] <kedar> ok justin
[07:08] <kedar> my wireless connection
[07:09] <kedar> has stopped working
[07:09] <justin__> Parisi: Seriously?, I have it running on a Radeon 7000 64mb AGP, really well
[07:09] <The_Knowledge> Dr_willis one more thing I want to  know How much space I need for it on my hard and do I need space for SWAP like in Red Hat Linux
[07:09] <MTecknology> I try to ask in ##windows but they don't answer questions in there
[07:09] <Parisi> justin__,  What? :)
[07:09] <MTecknology> Will I get help?
[07:09] <Parisi> justin__,  What is your processor?
[07:09] <justin__> kedar: Oh ok, can't help you I don't mess around with wireless
[07:09] <cafuego> MTecknology: Well, here you're likely to be either flamed or banned or both.
[07:09] <kedar> oh :-(
[07:09] <justin__> Parisi: 3ghz
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> The_Knowledge,  i always make at least a 512mb swap partition.  - your needs may vary. and a few gb for ubuntu .
[07:09] <Parisi> justin__,  That explains it, 1.7 Intel + 512 ram.
[07:09] <kedar> anyone know how I can fix my wireless settings to work?
[07:10] <kedar> because it isn't picking up any network names
[07:10] <Parisi> What drivers you running by the way?
[07:10] <kedar> and when I used iwlist scan
[07:10] <kedar> eth1 brought no scan results
[07:10] <The_Knowledge> Mean how much I have  3 Gb on my Drive C
[07:10] <kedar> is that a hardware problem?
[07:10] <tar_> Apache1 and PHP4 serve my index.php fine if I request /index.php in my URL, but if I request / alone, Apache just sends the source.
[07:10] <marcrosoft> I wonder if there is an easy way to switch in an out of xgl / xorg
[07:10] <justin__> Parisi: Yeah, I am running 3GHZ, 1gig ram (well just short of that by twenty or so megs) and the driver I am using is the radeon driver open sourced, with a few tweaks I passed to OPTIONS.
[07:11] <kedar> perhaps?
[07:11] <The_Knowledge> I want to use  windows  as well ubuntu
[07:11] <shogran> hey
[07:11] <Parisi> justin__,  gotcha, its ok tho, my next upgrade will be a 17'' dual core imac with 1 gig ram :)
[07:11] <matti> call 0xc0ffee
[07:12] <justin__> Parisi:  ;) Nice, so you can use all that power for useful things - you know.... like Compiz :))
[07:12] <Parisi> So i am not too concerned about compiz, i am more inclined to OSX
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> The_Knowledge,  you have ONLY a 3gb hard drive?
[07:12] <justin__> In reality, thats all extra power is used for.. because for work a PII 128megs of ram .. is a beast
[07:12] <Parisi> justin__,  :)
[07:12] <The_Knowledge> Know I have
[07:13] <The_Knowledge> I  have 80 gb  harddisk but  My  all the partition  are  full
[07:13] <Parisi> Linux is more of a toy and hobby to me, for real work i'll pass it.
[07:13] <The_Knowledge> I use only drive C for  windows
[07:13] <The_Knowledge> Its 7 gb  partition
[07:13] <justin__> Parisi: Not for me I do all my real work on Linux, and when I fool around I boot up my windows machine.
[07:14] <villacruel> sino ka
[07:14] <Parisi> justin__,  I see, the programs i use are windows/osx only, thats not a option under Linux.
[07:14] <manarang> dsadasd
[07:14] <justin__> Parisi: But you have to love how apple is hailing "multiple desktops" as "innovation" :)) haha, its funny because we have had it for years :P
[07:14] <combate> hello?
[07:14] <magno> hi
[07:14] <aquitania> hi combate
[07:14] <manalastas> psttt
[07:15] <manarang> hello
[07:15] <manalastas> asa
[07:15] <Rivera> _hi pOh!!!!!
[07:15] <combate> hi ish
[07:15] <Gueco> mga bugok,
[07:15] <clemente> boy
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> heloo
[07:15] <MarTiNez> hi bert..
[07:15] <justin__> Parisi: Well what ever gets the job done, an OS is only a background to whatever work needs to be done.
[07:15] <aquitania> miKe loVe iSh
[07:15] <manarang> combate
[07:15] <Gueco> joke
[07:15] <manalastas> chat tayo ish and donnel
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> waw
[07:15] <teacher> we will start within 1 minute
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> waw
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> waw
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> aw
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> aw
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> aw
[07:15] <Rivera> tsartoloG!!!!
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> aw
[07:15] <LoRez> Warning: `Tsartoglou' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> aw
[07:15] <Tsartoglou> aw
[07:15] <bl4cktone> I was wondering if it is possible to use final cut pro with ubuntu
[07:15] <Rivera> hi din!!!!
[07:15] <Parisi> justin__,  Thats correct, i still like their implemenation of most concepts that have been around for a while on the open source world.
[07:15] <aquitania> i lOve you miKe
[07:15] <manalastas> chat tayo ish and donnel!! cam 2 cam
[07:15] <dizon_nichole> john tisoy
[07:15] <manarang> combate banatan kita
[07:15] <bl4cktone> it wouldn't be a program like wine right?
[07:15] <justin__> For games I will not mess around all day with options and compiling and libs, I just boot up my windows machine --- windows is just better when it comes to Games (for now)
[07:15] <manarang> aw
[07:15] <manarang> asa
[07:15] <aquitania> hi
[07:16] <dizon_nichole> asa kayo
[07:16] <combate> manahimik kau kei...? ako yun.. ahh... wala lang
[07:16] <clemente> lov u kapatid ko
[07:16] <justin__> bl4cktone: No it does not work, most audio software for windows does not function in Linux.. the audio system is not even the same.
[07:16] <dizon_nichole> lolo mo panot
[07:16] <aquitania> cHe!!
[07:16] <Gueco> wag muna daw mag chat
[07:16] <bolima> hi
[07:16] <clemente> jok lng
[07:16] <dizon_nichole> asa ka ulo!!!
[07:16] <teacher> STOP CHATTING!
[07:16] <aquitania> e
[07:16] <teacher> STOP CHATTING!!
[07:16] <davidcarissa> ssss
[07:16] <manarang> ulo
[07:16] <MarTiNez> hoy j0hn manahimik!!
[07:16] <clemente> baka magalit c mike
[07:17] <Parisi> justin__,  Windows is still better for commercial apps, thats the sad truth.
[07:17] <bl4cktone> but justin__ I thought final cut pro was a apple program
[07:17] <dizon_nichole> bunet
[07:17] <aquitania> tlga!
[07:17] <clemente> galit ka
[07:17] <Rivera> _oizt,,, waG mna mAgcHat!!!!
[07:17] <Parisi> I couldnt imagine using Cubase under Linux.
[07:17] <manarang> duck
[07:17] <wtfomg> is ubuntu compatible with sb audigy soundcards?
[07:17] <cafuego> Can you robots please stop spamming the channel, thanks.
[07:17] <clemente> manki
[07:17] <Gueco> ang tigas ng mga ulo nyo STOP CHATTING
[07:17] <manalastas> Ca you robots please spamming the channel, thanks
[07:17] <clemente> lol
[07:18] <dizon_snoop> asa
[07:18] <Parisi> I wish there was an implemenation of Compiz for Windows, that would kick ass.
[07:18] <cafuego> !ops
[07:18] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:18] <manarang> lati
[07:18] <Hobbsee> cafuego: ?
[07:18] <Parisi> Well besised the upcoming Vista.
[07:18] <basilio> eLow...!
[07:18] <davidcarissa> hey
[07:18] <Parisi> Besides*
[07:18] <dizon_snoop> pandak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[07:18] <clemente> lol
[07:18] <wtfomg> is ubuntu compatible with sb audigy soundcards?
[07:18] <cafuego> Hobbsee: cheers
[07:18] <Hobbsee> cafuego: that it?
[07:19] <cafuego> Hobbsee: there were 5 or so, all from the same host.
[07:19] <james296> how can I properly install compiz/xgl?
[07:19] <nalioth> cafuego: have at 'em  :)
[07:19] <james296> Im having problems
[07:19] <bimberi_> stopped the lot with one ban :)
[07:19] <Madpilot> james296, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:19] <Hobbsee> cafuego: ah, i see...
[07:19] <james296> I was able to get it before, the entire program, but dont remember how I exactly did it
[07:19] <cafuego> nalioth: Not running useful software for doing so; gnome-xchat.
[07:20] <gnomefreak> any others?
[07:20] <cafuego> nalioth: I'll probably mis-click ;-)
[07:20] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: a whole heap.  we could just +q that entire IP, i guess
[07:20] <wtfomg> is ubuntu compatible with sb audigy soundcards?
[07:20] <nalioth> wtfomg: yes
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> wtfomg,  mine work great
 <Gueco>  <clemente> <Rivera> <manarang> <dizon_nichole> <dizon_snoop>
[07:21] <wtfomg> how do i configure it?
[07:21] <wtfomg> xorg?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> wtfomg,  i dident have to do anything to mine.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> wtfomg,  xorg has nothing to do with the sound.
[07:21] <wtfomg> sorry, i'm a little new
[07:21] <wtfomg> :x
[07:22] <glade> Dr_Willis do you know how to record the soundcard output?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> wtfomg,  if you installed, and it dident see it from the begining.. not sure what to do.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> glade,  nope - in the days gone past.. ya could 'dd from /dev/Somthing' to a file. :
[07:22] <wtfomg> what about seeing a ntfs drive?
[07:22] <patbam> hi, what's a good equivalent to a realvnc server in ubuntu?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Seeing ntfs is trivial
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> that url is worth bookamrking and reading :P
[07:23] <wtfomg> word.  thanks, sir.
[07:23] <wtfomg> major pwnage goin on.
[07:23] <wtfomg> -=x
[07:24] <bimberi_> patbam: there's vncserver, vnc4server and tightvncserver
[07:24] <tristil> I did something funny. I have a wireless bridge that I stupidly assigned an unreachable ip to. When I plug in through ethernet to the bridge router, I can access the gateway router. The router is running dd-wrt. The question is: how do I telnet in by the mac address? That's the Ubuntu Linux part.
[07:24] <bimberi_> patbam: i use the first personally
[07:24] <patbam> bimberi_: okay, thanks. i'll check it out :)
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> I also perfer vnc4server
[07:24] <Hobbsee> right, i think wev'e got them all.
[07:24] <Hobbsee> from follwing the nick changes.
[07:24] <tgelter> hey everyone, anyone have experience converting avi movies to a compatible mpeg4 format that works with the ipod video?
[07:24] <cafuego> nsi, narciso_, bAd_gUrL518, nsi_, nsi__, bolima, Tsartoglou, zamora, Rivera, aquitania, Lingat, narciso__, dizon_nichole, Tsartoglou gonzaga, narciso
[07:25] <cafuego> those are the ones grep found.
[07:25] <bimberi_> Dr_Willis: i had font issues, which i think can be fixed easily but i was in a rush :)
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> bimberi_,  yep. the font path is not set right by the tightvncserver script.
[07:26] <cafuego> tgelter: Yup, you need to rebuild ffmpeg and it'll be right.
[07:26] <patbam> bimberi_: if i want a friend to connect to me from windows with realvnc, will that work?
[07:26] <bleck> Hey everyone, just wondering if someone could help me out.  When I run apt-get update I get "Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
[07:26] <bleck>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:26] <bleck> "
[07:26] <Hobbsee> cafuego: yeah, i found a few more, when i scrolled up
[07:26] <bimberi_> patbam: yes
[07:26] <tgelter> cafuego: do you know how to do it using mencoder?
[07:26] <bleck> then Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:27] <cafuego> tgelter: No idea... I have a little script here that I use (You cna use the ffmpeg I built, if you want to)
[07:27] <tgelter> is it built for dapper?
[07:27] <cafuego> tgelter: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/media/ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1+risky_i386.deb
[07:27] <cafuego> tgelter: yup
[07:27] <cafuego> cd .bin
[07:28] <tgelter> cafuego: why the "risky" tag? =)
[07:28] <CppIsWeird> could anyone begin to instruct me on how one would begin to make a ubuntu that would function encryption-wise in this way: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/
[07:28] <cafuego> tgelter: That's the ffmpeg calls h.264 support.
[07:28] <tristil> bleck: try apt-get clean
[07:28] <cafuego> s/the/what/
[07:28] <bimberi_> patbam: with the servers i've pointed you to they need to run a vnc server process first.  Ubuntu also has a built in remote desktop function which uses another vnc server (vino-server).  It's for controlling an existing session remotely.
[07:28] <bleck> tristil: already tried
[07:28] <bleck> tristil: and apt-get check, found a forum post about it.  Didn't give me the info they got from apt-get check, even apt-get -v check didn't work
[07:28] <acik> hello
[07:29] <acik> i'm new to ubuntu
[07:29] <tgelter> cafuego: thanks for the help!
[07:29] <cafuego> tgelter: Use in combo with http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/vidpod.sh
[07:29] <we2by> !development
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <cafuego> tgelter: Run that as "vidpod.sh FILENAME wide" or "vidposd.sh FILENAME"
[07:30] <cafuego> tgelter: And it'll spit out a .mp4 file for you.
[07:30] <we2by> !compile
[07:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:30] <acik> how to change the screen resolution > 1024 x 768 pls help me anybody
[07:30] <DaveyJ> anyone know how to bridge an ethernet and firewire connection? i tried brctl and it wont let me add eth1 (firewire) :(
[07:30] <tgelter> cafuego: dpkg informs me that there is an older version of ffmpeg in the repos...should I use it, or the one you built?
[07:31] <ecmn> hello guys
[07:31] <cafuego> tgelter: use the one I built, the one in the repos doesn't have support for H264
[07:31] <ecmn> i just recetly downloaded a debian package of xchm
[07:32] <acik> how to change the screen resolution > 1024 x 768 pls help me anybody, this is my first time using ubuntu linux
[07:32] <bl4cktone> I don't understand what happened, I was updating ubuntu and at the end got this message
[07:32] <bl4cktone> Get:1335 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe streamtuner 0.99.99-5ubuntu4 [596kB] 
[07:32] <bl4cktone> Fetched 797MB in 27m12s (488kB/s)
[07:32] <bl4cktone> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xserver-xorg-driver-s3_6.8.2-77.1_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[07:32] <bl4cktone> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:32] <tgelter> cafuego: thanks again for the help
[07:32] <ecmn> how can i install in on Ubuntu?
[07:32] <tristil> acik: Under preferences->Screen resolution or if it's not properly configured, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:32] <patbam> bimberi_: so the person who wants to see my desktop has to run a *server* on their end, and notj ust a viewer?
[07:32] <acik> thanks tristil i try
[07:32] <bimberi_> patbam: no, just a viewer.
[07:33] <kendals> How do you save what you edit in alsamixer?
[07:33] <kendals> Pressing ESC seems to not save it?
[07:33] <bimberi_> patbam: if you want them to see your own desktop, use the built-in vino-server, which is configured via System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[07:34] <humble> anyone know how to recover from a hosed upgrade to edgy?
[07:34] <patbam> bimberi_: ah, ok
[07:34] <tristil> humble: Kind of.
[07:34] <ecmn> i just recetly downloaded a debian package of xchm, how can i install it on Ubuntu?
[07:34] <EnsignRedshirt> ecmn: Isn't there an Ubuntu xchm package?
[07:34] <tristil> humble: First, go to a recovery kernel.
[07:34] <bimberi_> patbam: if you want them to have their own separate desktop session then you need one of the vnc servers (mentioned earlier) running as a separate process
[07:35] <patbam> bimberi_: i see now, thanks for your explanation
[07:35] <glade> ecmn sudo dpkg -i XXX.deb
[07:35] <patbam> i just want to interact and share the mouse, etc
[07:35] <bimberi_> patbam: np :)
[07:35] <ecmn> i download the debian package?
[07:35] <ecmn> i download the debian package
[07:35] <humble> tristil: i tried that... same hang... if fact i tried all the kernels listes (about 4 + safe) - same thing
[07:35] <ecmn> tnx glade
[07:35] <tristil> humble: Then start forcing files to upgrade until you have everything.
[07:35] <bimberi_> patbam: then all you need should already be there :)
[07:35] <chandan> hi
[07:35] <glade> You can try the chm reader firefox extension
[07:35] <glade> ecmn
[07:35] <chandan> I need some help , in creating gui for my project
[07:35] <tristil> humble: That's bad :(
[07:36] <patbam> bimberi_: do i need to some how start the server?
[07:36] <chandan> I have an idea of creating an add on cd like thing for debian ,
[07:36] <patbam> with 'remote desktop', i mean
[07:36] <humble> yeah... i get "loading kernel" and then everything halts
[07:36] <ecmn> tnx for the help
[07:36] <bimberi_> patbam: it is started when you enable it via that menu item
[07:36] <gn0me> So I plug in my digital camera.. and it loads the dialog.. and starts showing photos I can import.. so I accidentally only pick one image, and it imports just the one.. so I go "okay, let's try again".. and now every time the dialog opens, it always returns: An error occurred in the io-library ('Unspecified error'): Could not query kernel driver of device.
[07:37] <bl4cktone> I ran sudo apt-get -f install it completed reading package list and building dependency tree    then it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 927 not upgraded.  What is 927???
[07:37] <gn0me> Hasn't worked since. :(
[07:37] <tristil> humble: Download a newer live cd image and use it to recover your files.
[07:37] <tristil> humble: then try again?
[07:37] <humble> that's what I'm running now
[07:37] <carlsagan> i can burn a ubuntu livecd with ubuntu right?
[07:38] <Borat> hey guys, im in a laptop enlish class, is there any harmless hacks that i can use to imress my buddies?
[07:38] <humble> i guess i'll do that... pick up an external drive tomorrow and get my stuff off then re-install
[07:38] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    (again)
[07:38] <tristil> humble, It happens to the best of us.
[07:38] <carlsagan> Borat: compiz/xgl
[07:38] <chandan> hi ,can xml file can be parsed thru shell script
[07:38] <humble> heh... thanks for your help
[07:38] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, 927 means you still have a long way to go
[07:39] <bl4cktone> :(
[07:39] <Borat> carsagan: yea i have that, it makes the class go wild lol, but are there anyother things?
[07:39] <carlsagan> does the ubuntu server installation disk require 192mb of ram to install?
[07:39] <Borat> carlsagan: like except from desktop stuff.
[07:40] <bl4cktone> ok I'll run it again thanks JoseStefan, after running those commands after sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the first time should let this finish the job?
[07:40] <nike> hgfhfd
[07:40] <tristil> Borat, check 192.168.1.1
[07:41] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, sometimes you have to repeat them many times, one then the other
[07:41] <rlaager> Hi. I remember seeing somewhere (on Planet Ubuntu, maybe) a writeup about the progress of the migration-assistance tool. I'm a Gaim developer and I'm looking to see what kind of migration is done for IM and hopefully find the time to improve it. Any ideas where I might find information on this software?
[07:41] <nlke> thats good
[07:41] <nlke> :)
[07:41] <nlke> heya
[07:41] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, and sometimes pkg errors show up, and you have to fix those manually. then run the upgrade commands again
[07:41] <carlsagan> sorry rlaager, i'm not sure
[07:41] <garrett|mobile> Hey #ubuntu, I have a question about xauthorization.
[07:41] <garrett|mobile> Takers?
[07:42] <Flannel> !ask
[07:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:42] <nlke> :)))
[07:42] <garrett|mobile> :P
[07:42] <Borat> tristil: my routers Ip?
[07:42] <garrett|mobile> I'm getting an xauthorization error when I try to do...virtually any type of admin type actions.
[07:43] <Borat> tristil: in school i need to know the pass and username to log in tot aht.
[07:43] <garrett|mobile> For instance, loading up the disk manager, I just got the error.
[07:43] <garrett|mobile> "Unable to copy xauthorization file"
[07:43] <Flannel> garrett|mobile: you've done things with sudo for graphical programs in the past, right?
[07:43] <garrett|mobile> Flannel, yessir.
[07:44] <Flannel> right, that's your problem.  You need to go to your home file and chown .Xauthorization to yourself
[07:44] <garrett|mobile> The only thing I can think of that has broken it was the recent kernel upgrade that I did earlier.
[07:44] <Flannel> and, in the future, use gksudo
[07:44] <tristil> Borat, sometimes it's the default, like root:admin, or admin:god :)
[07:44] <cpk1> Flannel: too bad he wasnt here last night for the sudo for gui's discussion
[07:44] <Flannel> instead of sudo for graphical apps
[07:44] <vilefridge> Does anyone here have Tomcat running on Ubuntu?
[07:45] <Flannel> cpk1: there's a reason I went through the wiki and changed all the 'sudo gedit' to gksudo gedit ;)  and there were quite a bit of them ;)
[07:45] <cpk1> Flannel: =P all us ignorant folks always using sudo
[07:45] <carlsagan> i prefer to destroy my system thank you very much
[07:46] <Flannel> cpk1: nescient, not ignorant...  usually anyway.
[07:46] <carlsagan> it is worth it to save 2 characters of typing =P
[07:46] <cpk1> carlsagan: you have a point... =)
[07:47] <Flannel> cpk1, carlsagan is being bullish, not insightful.
[07:48] <carlsagan> fine, fine, mod me -1 Flamebait
[07:48] <garrett|mobile> Flannel, what kind of chown parameters should I use?
[07:49] <Flannel> garrett|mobile: chown it to you:you, simple as that
[07:49] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan, I'm getting quite a few of these Err http://debian.charite.de breezy/restricted Packages 404
[07:49] <tristil> Borat, you could phish them. That might be amusing.
[07:49] <bl4cktone> bunch of diffrent ones
[07:49] <kupesoft> What is the new update about?
[07:50] <garrett|mobile> I''m new to chown. :|
[07:50] <garrett|mobile> chown --help isn't...helping.
[07:50] <kupesoft> garrett|mobile: man chown
[07:50] <Flannel> garrett|mobile: chown user:user file  * with sudo
[07:50] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, you need to edit your sources.list use http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ as the url
[07:50] <SawnDiddle> hi I have a dumb question that I don't know
[07:50] <jaycomp2005> anyone having a problem getting php to enter form info in to mysql
[07:51] <Flannel> user:group  but in your case, username:username
[07:51] <sorush20> my /dev/hda3 is /home, but its not mounted there..
[07:51] <SawnDiddle> how do I access the root accoutn?
[07:51] <sorush20> should I just edit fstab?
[07:51] <Milchmann> with "sudo command"
[07:52] <Milchmann> or "sudo bash" for a root terminal @ SawnDiddle
[07:52] <garrett|mobile> You the man Flannel!
[07:52] <garrett|mobile> :D
[07:52] <garrett|mobile> God bless you. Lol.
[07:52] <Milchmann> su do => superuser do
[07:52] <jaycomp2005> my php form acts like it sent the info but when i check the mysql db nothing has been inputed
[07:52] <kupesoft> Why the new updates?
[07:52] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: you might know this... when I used 'gksudo gedit junk' (for example), I get Gnome-UI warning about Authentication rejected.  The editor still comes up, but file name is wrapped in single quotes.
[07:52] <SawnDiddle> unfortunately the password I put in that I used when I setup the OS isn't working for me
[07:53] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan what do you mean use it as the url? I have sources.list open and don't see what I would replace for that url
[07:53] <garrett|mobile> I'm on a roll tonight. I've gotten my desktop (which has more or less been abandoned and turned into a server) up and running with dual monitors, and it finally dual boots with Windows correctly.
[07:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: I am using breezy.
[07:53] <garrett|mobile> I've been a busy boy.
[07:53] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: you're the second person to have that quotes problem.  I don't, oddly enough.  And I have no idea where it comes from ;)
[07:53] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, could you put your sources.list on the !pastebin
[07:53] <jaycomp2005> any one know about php
[07:53] <Piet> jaycomp2005: ask in ##php
[07:53] <bl4cktone> Man I feel like a nub but what's !pastebin?
[07:54] <Flannel> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:54] <jaycomp2005> ok thanks
[07:54] <kupesoft> jaycomp2005: sure,
[07:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: I've resorted to nano for editing when I need sudo, but it's a pain.
[07:55] <Madpilot> SawnDiddle, the pw you gave during install isn't working w/ sudo?
[07:55] <bl4cktone> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:55] <shinobi2> how much disk space do i need for ubuntu 6.06 desktop install?
[07:55] <vilefridge> Does anyone here have Tomcat running on Ubuntu?
[07:55] <Madpilot> shinobi2, about 2Gb
[07:55] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: did this just start happening? (the quotes thing)  the warnings are... well, I've always gotten them.
[07:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: No, I've had the problem for a while.
[07:56] <bl4cktone> think I did it but posted under your name JoseStefan
[07:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Actually, I'm not sure when the quotes problem started.
[07:57] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, you need to give use the resulting url, the one on the browser
[07:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Past problems with using gui programs with root privileges got me in the habit of using nano.
[07:58] <bl4cktone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23952
[07:58] <shinobi2> Madpilot: i have only 2 gb, during install , i got a not enought space error, do you know precisely how much i need?
[07:58] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: hmm, it ... seems to be a gksudo problem, since it's quoted there.  Odd.  And then it opens '/home/flannel'/etc/apt (opening my sources.list)
[07:58] <Madpilot> shinobi2, not exactly, but I think it's just under 2Gb
[07:59] <MistaED> could someone tell me a good log file to read about system stability? like a kernel panic one? i just got a hardlock about 5 mins into running gnome
[07:59] <shinobi2> i am running vmware, and trying to install ubuntu on it
[07:59] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, i see some mistakes
[08:00] <cafuego> shinobi2: <heh> 2.2GB would be fine. Give it 4 though, so you have  alittle bit of data storage too.
[08:00] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan, do tell
[08:01] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, lets generate a new one, go to the address shown on !easysource
[08:01] <JoseStefan> !easysource > bl4cktone
[08:01] <shinobi2> cafuego: i am still testing, my hd has dual-boot, not much space left.  will reformat hard drive and install vmware to run ubuntu.
[08:02] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, select Breezy, include both updates, and select the next 2 Packages Boxes, and hit generate
[08:03] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan wow that looks diffrent
[08:04] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, put the results on your source.list, when done do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:04] <patbam> i'm trying ot reset my mysql password; i used system/services to stop the service, but when i do a $ mysql -u root -p i get a "can't connect to local myql server thru socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock"
[08:05] <noiesmo> hey all I've got some midi files I need to convert to audio and audacity doesnt like them any suggestions
[08:05] <patbam> oh duh forget it
[08:05] <JoseStefan> patbam, if you stop the mysql service, you wont be able to connect to it :/
[08:06] <cafuego> patbam: Yes, the server needs to be running if you need to change the password; it's after all stored in the database itself.
[08:06] <noiesmo> patbam, this is what i did to reset root password mysql http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060712202032569&query=mysql
[08:06] <patbam> noiesmo: great, thank you
[08:06] <justinchudgar> 'lo
[08:06] <noiesmo> patbam, np
[08:06] <noiesmo> patbam, sorry about site lag in advance
[08:07] <Crankeye> hey
[08:07] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan Seems to be working now, it's downloading and now I'm at a blue screen saying something about Dictionaries-common: Wordlist dictionary
[08:08] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan Seems to be working now, it's downloading and now I'm at a blue screen saying something about Dictionaries-common: Wordlist dictionary
[08:08] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, is it asking for anything?
[08:08] <bl4cktone> whoops
[08:08] <bl4cktone> yeah american english I guess
[08:08] <justinchudgar> having trouble getting an SMP enabled kernel to work on a system with a Pentium D 805 on an ATI RL410 mobo with an Atheros wifi pci card
[08:08] <noiesmo> cafuego, you need to stop mysql and then restart it in safe mode
[08:08] <Crankeye> quick question, when i try and restart it hangs. i got to my terminal ctrl+shift+f1 and its asking for a root passowrd for maintenice, this shouldnt happen when i try and restart, any ideas?
[08:08] <bl4cktone> it's unpacking now
[08:09] <zoidberg> guys quick question
[08:09] <zoidberg> is there an Alarm Clock program for UBUNTU
[08:09] <zoidberg> ?
[08:09] <justinchudgar> i have tried a Marvell 8300 based card with ndiswrapper, but, that causes a "soft lock on CPU1" which totally hangs the system
[08:09] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan It's asking do you wish to restart services?
[08:09] <glade> zoidberg Plan
[08:10] <Crankeye> zoidberg: kalarm
[08:10] <cafuego> noiesmo: Not if you know the password or if it's blank.
[08:10] <Crankeye> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/22/how-to-use-your-linux-machine-as-an-alarm/
[08:10] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, what is prompting that? can you continue upgrading 1st ?
[08:10] <zoidberg> Crankeye: is kalarm for KDE...i'm using GNOME
[08:11] <justinchudgar> the Atheros card works find with kernel 2.6.17-7-386 (UP) but, it is not recognized in either 2.6.17-7-generic or a handrolled 2.6.17-11-ubuntu1 with SMP enabled
[08:11] <EnsignRedshirt> zoidberg: sanduhr
[08:11] <Crankeye> read the link, its a blog talking about alrams
[08:11] <Crankeye> Kalarm is the KDE alarm tool, which can, besides paying sounds, display a text file, or execute commands at specific times in the future. Even if you are an Ubuntu user (Gnome) you still can install and use kalarm. The name of the package to install is, unsurprisingly, kalarm!
[08:11] <EnsignRedshirt> zoidberg: I haven't used it; it showed up in a search in Synaptic.
[08:11] <justin__> Has anyone ever played freeciv?
[08:11] <sorush20> can you do dist-upgrade on live cd mode?
[08:11] <glade>  evolution has an alarm
[08:12] <Flannel> sorush20: no.  you need to download the alternate ISO
[08:12] <sorush20> okay
[08:12] <noiesmo> cafuego, fair enough but the other dude had lost password thats why i thought i'd mention it
[08:12] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23953 this is where I'm at
[08:13] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan I only went back so far
[08:13] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, you can say yes to that
[08:14] <Crankeye> when i restart my computer it hangs, and when i go to the terminal (ctrl+shift+f1) its asking for maintenance password. any ideas?
[08:15] <JoseStefan> bl4cktone, join #bl4cktone
[08:15] <AqD> OMG
[08:15] <AqD> there are 800+ people!
[08:15] <Crankeye> 843
[08:15] <Crankeye> to be exact
[08:15] <AqD> :D
[08:15] <Crankeye> >_>;
[08:16] <cafuego> Crankeye: Boot recovery mode and look.
[08:16] <AqD> well guys, if you want to use my mac menubar patch for gtk/gnome, I just released a patch for gtk 2.8 (PS: arch has been using 2.10 for weeks :P)
[08:16] <AqD> the howto is here => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1411428
[08:16] <AqD> bye :D
[08:16] <cafuego> #advertising is elsewhere.
[08:16] <CharonX> 843, and 6 watching the channel .....
[08:16] <AqD> cafuego: it's not ad :D
[08:16] <Crankeye> cafuego: its not that kind of issue, i can shutdown fine, aswell as boot up
[08:16] <^^Bran^^> 7
[08:16] <AqD> cafuego: it's a mac menubar for all gtk apps
[08:17] <Crankeye> when i say hang i use that lightly
[08:17] <Crankeye> i just sits there waiting for the maitince password
[08:17] <cafuego> AqD; Spam, then. have it your way.
[08:17] <Crankeye> which shouldn't happend on a restart >_>;
[08:17] <CharonX> By mack menubar, you mean one that expands the icons ?
[08:17] <CharonX> mac...
[08:17] <cafuego> Crankeye: Yeah, that implies something has failed. Hence the recovery mode, yoiu might see *what* has failed.
[08:17] <Crankeye> ah gotcha
[08:19] <cafuego> CharonX: He meant menu bar locked to top of screen, seperate from app window.
[08:19] <Crankeye> i wonder why it only fails on restart..
[08:19] <cafuego> CharonX: Sadly, he gives BAD INSTRUCTIONS for installing his patch.
[08:20] <CharonX> Oh, I was hoping it was a applet I could put in my current menu bar(and then put icons in that applet) to act like the main mac menu
[08:21] <Crankeye> this is going to be interesting to boot into recovery.. im missing the cd to edgy >_<
[08:21] <cafuego> I'm pretty sure there are utils that do that.
[08:21] <cafuego> Crankeye: it's an item in the grub menu.
[08:21] <CharonX> cafuego,  if there are I have not been able to figure out which ones.
[08:21] <w30> When I installed Ubuntu I changed the label on my Fedora partition from  / to core3 and now Fedora won't boot and the partition utility says we don't let you label partitions / anymore. Anyone know how to get that label back to /.
[08:22] <Crankeye> Alright well i'll take a look. >_>;
[08:22] <cafuego> w30: Make fedora boot with "root=LABEL=core3" instead of root=LABEL=/
[08:22] <g0r33k> guys anyone availabe to help a noobie?
[08:23] <cafuego> w30: You may need to also mount the fedora partition in ubuntu and edit Fedora's /etc/fstab to reflect that change.
[08:23] <w30> cafuego, I tried that but Fedora still looks for /
[08:24] <w30> cafuego, fstab don't list labels
[08:25] <cafuego> w30: Just devices?
[08:26] <w30> cafuego, just types ext3 vfat etc.
[08:26] <agt> join #wine
[08:26] <cafuego> it ahs to _somehow_ list either the device or label.
[08:27] <tekian> Can anyone help me with a sound related issue? I've searched the forums yet haven't found an answer.
[08:28] <w30> cafuego, I deleted the partiton and labeled it / but when I dd if=image of/dev/hda2 the label went back to core3 so the label is in the partition image somewhere
[08:28] <cafuego> w30: Hmmyah. You can use 'tune2fs' to edit it.
[08:29] <w30> cafuego, I deleted the partiton and labeled it / but when I dd if=image_core3  of=/dev/hda2 the label went back to core3 so the label is in the partition image somewhere
[08:29] <tekian> Anyone able to help me with a sound related issue?
[08:30] <cpk2> !ask
[08:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:30] <wtfomg> i can't get sound to work :[
[08:30] <wtfomg> lol@1 hr later
[08:30] <wtfomg> ;\
[08:30] <mkquist_> anyone know if running knoppix live cd could do anything to booting back to ubuntu/ms?
[08:31] <tekian> Haha. My bad. I'm running a Dell Inspiron 9400 (e1705), and the subwoofer doesn't seem to produce any sound.
[08:31] <wtfomg> mk, i've ran knoppix live cd, had no problems booting back to windows.
[08:31] <mkquist_> ubuntu?
[08:31] <mkquist_> too?
[08:31] <wtfomg> just installed ubuntu today.
[08:32] <tekian> So does anyone by any chance know how to get my subwoofer up and runnin? =)
[08:33] <wtfomg> tek, what soundcard do you have?
[08:33] <tekian> I read something about messing with a Master Mono slider in volume control, but I dont have an option for that in Edit>Prefrences
[08:33] <tekian> Sigmatel STAC9200
[08:33] <wtfomg> have you played with the bass and treble sliders?
[08:34] <tekian> Dont see them.
[08:34] <tekian> All I have is a Master and PCM
[08:34] <tekian> Then Capture Mux, which I think is just for line-in stuff.
[08:34] <w30> cafuego, tune2fs did the job, thank you profoundly!!!
[08:34] <cafuego> please donate freely.
[08:35] <wtfomg> tek, do you have the right device selected?
[08:35] <wtfomg> File>Change Device
[08:35] <w30> !donate to cafuego
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about donate to cafuego - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <w30> !ha
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ha - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <tekian> I looked under both HDA Intel and SigamaTel STAC9200.
[08:36] <tekian> What i just listed was from HDA Intel, the SigamTel STAC9200 just lists Voume and In-Gain
[08:37] <glade> i think you should select the intel one
[08:38] <tekian> It is currently, but I have no option for anything that controls my subwoofer =(
[08:38] <wtfomg> yeah.. i dont have any sound either.
[08:38] <wtfomg> :\
[08:38] <wtfomg> and i really want to listen to new napalm death.
[08:42] <glade> do u use intel ac97 sound card
[08:42] <wtfomg> i use a SoundBlaster Audigy
[08:43] <tekian> stupid shift backspace.
[08:43] <wtfomg> pwnt
[08:43] <tekian> :(
[08:43] <wtfomg> :'(
[08:43] <tekian> wtfomgWhat kind of computer do you run?
[08:44] <wtfomg> intel
[08:44] <wtfomg> did you want more?
[08:44] <wtfomg> haha
[08:44] <tekian> Lol. Custom desktop?
[08:45] <wtfomg> i built it, yea
[08:45] <tekian> What sound card do you have?
[08:45] <wtfomg> sb audigy with a logitech z560 4.1 setup
[08:45] <glade> wtfomg, i get the solution in a forum
[08:45] <tekian> Yea, did you see this topic yet? > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:46] <tekian> Although it didnt have what I needed ( T_T ), it should help with yours
[08:46] <wtfomg> ok lemme check it out
[08:47] <tekian> I just need to figure out where my master mono control is now =)
[08:49] <glade> tekian Try the alsamixer command
[08:50] <nentis> a friend just took the plunge, but will most likely go back to OS X (powerpc G4) due to: 1) Flash no workie, 2) Same with Quicktime, 3) Skype does not work on powerpc, 4) Transgaming does not work on powerpc (WOW)
[08:50] <tekian> *Stabs backspace*
[08:50] <glade> tekian:alsamixer command
[08:50] <nentis> if she only had a macbook pro
[08:51] <tekian> Ok, I got Master, PCM, Capture, and Input Source listed under alsamixer
[08:52] <CppIsWeird> could anyone begin to instruct me on how one would begin to make a ubuntu that would function encryption-wise in this way: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/
[08:52] <daurn> what is the parameter to add so any user can access it?: sudo mount -t ntfs  /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> How to make nautilus display the recursive size of directories in the view (not having to go through right-click > properties)?
[08:52] <JaMiNkLe> there no ppc chan?
[08:52] <tekian> No
[08:52] <tekian> er
[08:52] <tekian> sorry. read that wrong.
[08:52] <tekian> >_>
[08:54] <fdoving> daurn: i recommend adding /dev/sda1 to /etc/pmount.allow and let each user mount it when he needs to. (if you don't have multiple users at one time).
[08:54] <daurn> i mean
[08:54] <we2by> god, Ubuntu works perfect on my macbook :)
[08:54] <fdoving> daurn: that would make it behave like a removable device.
[08:54] <daurn> what do you add to the end?
[08:54] <glade>  tekian do u see Master M
[08:54] <daurn> (i just want to do this once)
[08:55] <daurn> something like --uid=1000?
[08:55] <daurn> i can't remember
[08:55] <fdoving> !ntfs
[08:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:56] <tekian> Glade: No. I'm under All view as well. I just see Master. No Master M
[08:56] <daurn> comeon
[08:56] <daurn> please just tell me that one parameter
[08:57] <glade> tekian  http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/about1493.html&highlight=Audigy
[08:58] <tekian> glade: I cant read japanese =) Lol
[08:59] <glade> tekian sorry, i made a mistake
[08:59] <tekian> No problem
[09:00] <fdoving> daurn: you should read that help page. it'll give you more inputs on the topic. it's good.
[09:00] <daurn> i don't want an automnated script or anything
[09:00] <daurn> i'm doing a process i did a year or so ago exactly to get a certain disk to work
[09:00] <daurn> but i forget that parameter
[09:00] <daurn> PLEASE just tell me it
[09:01] <daurn> its SUCH a simple request
[09:02] <tekian> Glade: Could I be using a bad driver?
[09:03] <glade> tekian lsmod | grep snd
[09:04] <tekian> Glade: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23957
[09:05] <fdoving> daurn: i must say you're lazy when you're so close to the answer, and still ask for help here. umask=0007 or something, depends on your config. if you read the page you'll understand.
[09:05] <daurn> i don't want to learn :S - i just wanted the command
[09:06] <JaMiNkLe> many people here running ppc?
[09:06] <JaMiNkLe> or am i all alone
[09:06] <daurn> btw, is there a plugin for amaroK to play wma files?
[09:06] <Flannel> !tell daurn about restricted
[09:06] <wtfomg> that worked.
[09:06] <wtfomg> i have sound now.
[09:07] <tekian> Awesome =D
[09:07] <tekian> Hopefully my subwoofer will be working soon
[09:08] <mypapit> w00f
[09:08] <oscar> hello, i am looking for help with ubuntu server
[09:08] <wtfomg> oh!
[09:08] <wtfomg> hey dude
[09:08] <tekian> ?
[09:08] <wtfomg> do you have a Tone option?
[09:08] <tekian> No =(
[09:08] <wtfomg> oh you need that
[09:08] <Flannel> oscar: What you need help with?
[09:09] <wtfomg> that will make your sub work for sure.
[09:09] <tekian> I'm thinking I am just using a bad driver
[09:09] <tekian> I'm just too chicken to change it
[09:09] <tekian> :P
[09:09] <wtfomg> do what i just did.
[09:09] <wtfomg> sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[09:09] <wtfomg> then
[09:09] <oscar> well, i am attempting to run from a 200mhz with 64ram and a 160ish mb swap, it installs fine (however in low memory mode), but it just wont boot, the computer restarts
[09:09] <wtfomg> sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[09:09] <wtfomg> sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <CppIsWeird> could anyone begin to instruct me on how one would begin to make a ubuntu that would function encryption-wise in this way: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/
[09:11] <glade> i think no problem with the driver
[09:11] <butleR> Can someone help me with a mount install? I don't have a CD burner and I've been searching and trying stuff from the forums for 2 days
[09:12] <wtfomg> butler, i assume you're on windows?
[09:12] <butleR> yes
[09:12] <Flannel> !tell butleR about install
[09:12] <wtfomg> try mounting with alcohol.
[09:13] <butleR> i can get it to boot to the installer
[09:13] <Flannel> butleR: there's one that talks about installing from within windows, sounds right up your alley ;)
[09:13] <butleR> but it can't find the CD
[09:13] <butleR> I've tried it and gotten pretty far, but it can't find the image to mount it
[09:13] <wtfomg> when you download ubuntu it comes as a image (iso)
[09:14] <tekian> x_x
[09:14] <tekian> What ever the first command did just totally crashed my system
[09:14] <wtfomg> sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils  ?
[09:14] <tekian> yea
[09:14] <wtfomg> really?....
[09:14] <wtfomg> sec
[09:15] <tekian> Yea, trying to figure out what happened x_X
[09:15] <wtfomg> tell me result of aplay -l
[09:15] <tekian> x_x I cant find my gnome terminal app
[09:16] <butleR> I've mounted it with PowerISO and then restarted, tried installing and got the same error...
[09:16] <oscar> anybody know the minimal specs of ubuntu server?, particually CPU
[09:16] <wtfomg> tek, nice.
[09:16] <tekian> Lol. All my programs are out of place now for some reason
[09:16] <rene32> Good morning. I have an Intersil Prism 2.5 rev1 WLAN card in my notebook and I am wondering if it supports WPA. Network-manager-gnome does not offer WPA in its GUI for this card and I did not manage to get wpa_supplicant work with this card. Anyone here who knows more?
[09:17] <wtfomg> butleR, what's the error?  just a reboot?
[09:17] <tekian> brb. got to find a terminal now. Wont switch displays with xgl running
[09:17] <wtfomg> tek, you find everything?
[09:18] <butleR> says it can't find the CD
[09:18] <butleR> and gives me a menu
[09:18] <tekian> Going to try :P Just a sec
[09:18] <wtfomg> k
[09:18] <butleR> o
[09:18] <butleR> i'm going to try using Alcohol
[09:18] <wtfomg> if that doesn't work, you can always just order the cd's.
[09:19] <butleR> yea, I went ahead and put in an order for them
[09:19] <cafuego> rene32: No, it doesn't.
[09:19] <wtfomg> coo
[09:19] <butleR> but in the mean time I figured I'd try myself
[09:19] <rene32> cafuego: 100% sure?
[09:19] <cafuego> rene32: Yes.
[09:19] <cafuego> rene32: It's an orinoco silver/gold card, right?
[09:19] <rene32> cafuego: I have read so many manuals and some of them mention Prism 2.5 as supported chipset for WPA
[09:20] <wtfomg> butleR, knock yourself out, i guess. but i don't know too much after what we already talked about.
[09:20] <rene32> cafuego: network-manager-gnome uses the orinoco driver. More I don't know.
[09:20] <oscar> how does that work cafuego?, because i cant get my wireless card to do wpa on linux either, is there a list somewhere?
[09:20] <rene32> cafuego: Built in (mini PCI?) card.
[09:20] <cafuego> rene32: Yeah, 99% sure you won't get WPA on that.
[09:21] <cafuego> oscar: Is it supposed to under WIndows?
[09:21] <butleR> here goes nothing...brb
[09:21] <tekian> Much better
[09:21] <oscar> yes, it worked under windows
[09:21] <ufoz> hi. since last apt-get upgrade (new kernel afaik) i am unable to boot. getting faulire about missing root partition. is that a bug ? how i can solve that ? i am currently chrootet the partition
[09:21] <rene32> cafuego: Why are you so sure?
[09:21] <cafuego> rene32: My prisms don't do wpa :-)
[09:22] <tekian> ...
[09:22] <rene32> cafuego: So what do you say about this? http://remote-exploit.org/index.php/Prism_update
[09:22] <tekian> My sigmatel option under volume control is gone now x_x
[09:22] <oscar> ufoz, did you update on the 14th of sep and have an nvidia videocard by any chance?
[09:22] <tekian> glade, you still there?
[09:22] <rene32> What is the recommended WPA chipset for Linux?
[09:23] <oscar> do any work out of the box?
[09:23] <cafuego> rene32: These days, atheros probably... or maybe centrino (2100/2200)
[09:23] <ufoz> oscar, i was not infront this pc for some days, so maybe the update is from the 14th. no i have no nvidia card. it is a savage s3 video vard
[09:24] <cafuego> rene32: Hold on, does your prism2.5 does 802.11g?
[09:24] <rene32> cafuego: No, only 11mbps
[09:24] <oscar> well see if this applies to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459
[09:24] <cafuego> rene32: No WPA then.
[09:24] <rene32> cafuego: But the windows driver was crap. So that does not say anything :-)
[09:25] <rene32> cafuego: Ok, so I'll take this for sure then and see if this notebook has a replacable miniPCI card built in.
[09:25] <cafuego> rene32: wpa is part of the 802.11g standard, not 802.11b. That only does WEP (64 and 128bit - and the latter only on newer cards)
[09:25] <we2by> ow do u allow windows to go under the panel?
[09:26] <rene32> cafuego: ok, seems to make sense. So I can give up trying to get wpa_supplicant work.
[09:26] <rene32> cafuego: thx alot
[09:26] <cafuego> rene32: np
[09:26] <Lynoure> cafuego: many of the older ones are hackable to do 128bit, but there is risk of breaking
[09:26] <valehru> Need to reset my xorg.conf....anyone have a quick and easy way to do it from the command line?
[09:27] <butleR> wtfomg|brb: I have a physical CD Rom drive, would that affect it detecting the virtual CD Rom drive that the image is mounted to?
[09:27] <cafuego> Lynoure: Quit probable. I just sue 'em with open networks now.
[09:28] <oscar> butleR: should be fine
[09:28] <Samuli^> valehru, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <valehru> Samuli^, thanks
[09:29] <butleR> brb again
[09:29] <umar> hi
[09:29] <Samuli^> valehru, make a backup of your recent xorg.conf first though.
[09:29] <oscar> anyway, i am off
[09:29] <foo> tainted_: Around?
[09:29] <Samuli^> although dpkg should make it's own.
[09:30] <umar> can i use non-free software links in my distro free "GNU/Linux "
[09:30] <umar> Actually i want to provide one option for the user to download non-distrubutable software from the net
[09:31] <umar> so i need to mention links in my code to download those softwares and install
[09:31] <umar> #debian
[09:31] <cantona> anyone know how come the "dd" program segfault?
[09:32] <ufoz> oscar, nope. the problem is not startig the x server. it is during the initrd. it shows me sometthing about VFS unable to mount root fs or something like that
[09:33] <escape> Hi Guys
[09:35] <Zealot87> what are some other music players other than rythmbox
[09:35] <ufoz> Zealot87, xmms
[09:35] <escape> The updates of compiz from yesterday brings a lot of ne features with.... Very stable at all...
[09:35] <ufoz>  izd like the well known winamp for windows
[09:35] <wtfomg|brb> tek
[09:35] <Zealot87> but more like a library organizer
[09:35] <escape> xmms, amarok
[09:35] <escape> and so on
[09:36] <Zealot87> does amarok work well in gnome?
[09:36] <WinterWeaver> hey hey ^_^
[09:36] <ufoz> Zealot87, it is a kde applikation
[09:36] <Zealot87> yeah i want one for gnome
[09:36] <escape> It works in Gnome @Zealot
[09:36] <WinterWeaver> METAL MILITIA
[09:36] <escape> also it is for KDE
[09:36] <Zealot87> but i remember there was news of a player like rythmbox, that looked awesome
[09:36] <Zealot87> but i cant find it anymore
[09:37] <ufoz> << has still problem since last kernel update. during initrd getting VFS faulier and cannot boot.
[09:37] <brian98> more upates for dapper today!
[09:37] <escape> Well just open Synaptic and have a look at multimedia categorie
[09:37] <escape> there you'll find a lot of players
[09:37] <Zealot87> anyone remember something about a new media player?
[09:38] <escape> Did you read the forums @ufoz
[09:38] <butleR> still hasn't worked. is there anything special I need to do with the image other than mount the image to a virtual drive?
[09:39] <ufoz> yes escape but i do not have a nvidia card on that laptop.
[09:39] <WinterWeaver> speaking of rhythmbox.... I cant play any mp3's, wma, or any vids (avi, mpg, wmv).... what do I need?
[09:39] <escape> So you couldn't find any solution that fits?
[09:39] <zaggynl> Hmm
[09:40] <zaggynl> I just did downloaded and applied the latest updates, but the.27 kernel made my nvidia drivers not load :(
[09:40] <escape> I have a question, too: Does anybody has got an address for NessusClient? Debian package would be nice...
[09:40] <GoOdcm> need to install codecs
[09:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell WinterWeaver about mp3
[09:40] <vcolombo> Zealot87: Amarok is a KDE application but it works just fine even if you're running Gnome
[09:40] <vcolombo> Zealot87: But there is one similar to Rythmbox called Banshee, maybe that's what you're thinking of?
[09:40] <ufoz> i checked the entries in my lilo.conf, i updatet and upgradet using apt-get. hmm, i youse the 686 kernel, maybe i should try out the default 386 ?
[09:40] <zaggynl> GoOdcm, !codecs
[09:41] <zaggynl> !codecs
[09:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:41] <WinterWeaver> Madpilot: thx !!
[09:41] <Madpilot> WinterWeaver, no problem
[09:41] <WinterWeaver> and thx !
[09:41] <escape> Could be you have the wrong dirvers @zaggynl
[09:41] <zaggynl> escape, I have the latest from the rep
[09:41] <escape> oh.
[09:41] <zaggynl> but then again, I'm having trouble reaching the rep, I get a lot of 104's
[09:42] <escape> Doesn't look very nice hu?
[09:42] <cwc> hi all... im having trouble with easyubuntu....
[09:43] <zaggynl> cwc, Try not to check everything in easyubuntu
[09:43] <escape> Great.... I found the NessusClient as .deb
[09:43] <archangelpetro> cwc state your trouble :)
[09:43] <zaggynl> cwc, try with each checkbox
[09:43] <cwc> my easyubuntu doesnt open ! so i tried to uninstall (so i can reinstall) and it says:  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:44] <zaggynl> escape, I'm using the nvidia 1.0.8762
[09:44] <zaggynl> I guess that's the latest?
[09:45] <escape> i never used this easyunbuntu script. made everything on my own. is it always that hard to use it?
[09:45] <escape> i'll take a look. just a moment zaggynl
[09:45] <zaggynl> ^^
[09:45] <x_or> I'm trying to use debootstrap to install a new ubuntu system.  I cannot find base-config, however.  Does this mean I did something wrong?  I tried using debconf install base-config but it complains with "unable to initialize frontend: Dialog" so there are obviously some errors in my perl modules installation.  Any clues?
[09:45] <Janchi> never had any problems with easyubuntu
[09:45] <escape> wat is your xserver?
[09:45] <Janchi> Did you download the latest
[09:45] <zaggynl> escape, xorg
[09:46] <zaggynl> escape, let me get you a pastebin of the log
[09:46] <cwc> i did not have any problems in  my wife's laptop, but this laptop is giving a lot of trouble
[09:46] <z0rz> I installed VMWare but now everytime I do apt-get it asked me a ton of annoying questions about my interface .. how can I either remove VMWare or get these annoying meessages to stop?
[09:46] <cwc> Janchi, i downloaded the file easyubuntu_3.0.22-0cafuego3_all.deb
[09:47] <cwc> anyways, im looking for help with complete removal, so i can installing once again
[09:47] <Ayabara> I have an external ext3 drive where some files have chars illegal in windows (like ":" ). I mount the fs in windows from time to time, so I need to fix this. Is there a clever way to search my drive for files with illegal signs and rename them to windows-compatible ones?
[09:47] <Janchi> I used these instructions for the source package http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[09:48] <zaggynl> escape, http://pastebin.ca/175921 <= nvidia not loading problem log part
[09:48] <cwc> thanks Janchi, i'll have a look at that
[09:48] <escape> 1:1.0.1.5 should be the actual driver file @zaggynl
[09:48] <Janchi> You have to run a python script then. No install.
[09:50] <escape> have you tried a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" @zagggynl ?
[09:51] <zaggynl> escape,  :o I think my sources.list is kaput again
[09:51] <cwc> thanks Janchi, i got the easyubuntu window now :)
[09:51] <escape> should i send you mine?
[09:51] <wall0159> g'day all. confused here. Playing mp4 files cause Amarok to crash. Tried upgrading using SVN (as opposed to Dapper repo), and tried upgrading lib-xine, to no avail. I can get the mp4 files to play, but unstable, and moving from song to song will kill it. any thoughts?
[09:52] <escape> i have a very actual list
[09:52] <escape> Try to install all the gstreamer plugins @wall
[09:52] <escape> codecs i meant
[09:52] <wall0159> escape: I've had a look at that,but I'm not sure how :-P
[09:53] <escape> Just install all the gstreamer plugin where you can read "codec"
[09:53] <Janchi> Perfect. I would recommend not installing all options in one go. It causes some problems
[09:53] <escape> i never had one
[09:53] <escape> and i can play nearly all files
[09:54] <wall0159> I have the good/bad/ugly codecs installed already, but those are vn 0.10. There are also vn 0.8 files. Are they relevant?
[09:54] <kippi> hey
[09:54] <kippi> could someone help me install spamassassin?
[09:54] <alesdoc> hi, my boot-partition (50MB) is full...100%. How can i solve this problem?
[09:54] <wall0159> Unfortunately, the gstreamer engine doesn't appear in Amarok as an option (reopsitory or SVN version) not sure why...
[09:54] <escape> Spamassassin has got very good documentation. I think you should have a look at it first
[09:55] <test__> trying to setup a modem got this in the help file, First insert an ALSA modem driver.
[09:55] <test__> # modprobe low_level_driver
[09:55] <test__> anybody?
[09:55] <cwc> Janchi, already did, and already gave some error... now im trying one by one ;-)
[09:55] <test__> whats low_level_driver
[09:55] <escape> doesn't matter @wall only the codecs where taken. i use the codecs with mplayer
[09:55] <wall0159> escape: sorry.. I don't understand you. Do you mean that libxine uses the gstreamer codecs?
[09:56] <PseudoPlacebo> Does anyone know how old you have to be to work at best buy, and what certs you need?
[09:56] <escape> I think they are used systemwide, as i can play all the files with every player
[09:56] <wall0159> hmm. does that include kde applications?
[09:57] <kippi> how can you use apt-get to get Depends?
[09:57] <escape> no it doesnt
[09:57] <wall0159> ok.
[09:57] <escape> try apt-get --help ?
[09:57] <escape> lol
[09:57] <escape> zaggynl
[09:57] <escape> look at the dialog
[09:57] <wall0159> thanks for your help, escape
[09:57] <escape> no problem
[09:58] <escape> hope you can solve your problem
[09:58] <z0rz> Is there a lamp guide for xubuntu?
[09:58] <zaggynl> escape, Sorry, which dialog?
[09:58] <escape> for lamp there is a good guide at apachefriends.org
[09:59] <escape> private dialog
[09:59] <zaggynl> escape, I don't see any queries
[09:59] <escape> ^^
[09:59] <escape> strange
[09:59] <zaggynl> I queried you
[09:59] <escape> i wrote if i should send you my sources list
[10:00] <zaggynl> escape, I just generated one with http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:00] <zaggynl> but that one stalls while reloading
[10:00] <kendals> apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.15-27-386 says the package doesn't exist, but that is my kernal version- what do i do?
[10:00] <XiXaQ> I need to download VMWare Tools for Ubuntu. Does anyone know where to get it?
[10:00] <escape> i have alle the sources for compiz and so on
[10:00] <kendals> Xixaq- get it from the add/remove apps list
[10:00] <Netslayer> where is the standard ubuntu hotplug dir ? /usr/lib/hotplug?
[10:00] <zaggynl> escape, I'll try to do stuff command line :P
[10:01] <Netslayer> aka firmware dir
[10:01] <zaggynl> Netslayer, I think ubuntu uses udev, since hotplug is depricated
[10:01] <escape> try linux-kernel-headers as they are for your version @kendals
[10:01] <escape> okay :o)
[10:01] <Netslayer> i'm looking for the firmware folder..any ideas
[10:01] <fatbrain> How can I enable write on my portable USB disk?
[10:01] <Janchi> fatbrain, how is it formatted
[10:02] <brendonjt> fatbrain, : it should already  be enabled?
[10:02] <escape> do you know the meaning of google @fatbrain?
[10:02] <Janchi> FAT32 should go automatically (at least it does on my vanilla install)
[10:02] <brendonjt> fatbrain, : my ipod works asa mass stogae (usb disk) no worries
[10:02] <escape> this should be the basic knowledge
[10:02] <fatbrain> escape: retort
[10:02] <fatbrain> Janchi: ext3
[10:03] <z0rz> So should I just install xampp? Or individually?
[10:03] <zaggynl> :o
[10:03] <escape> some people make it itself to easy
[10:03] <kendals> apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.15-27-386 says the package doesn't exist, but that is my kernal version- what do i do?
[10:03] <Seveas> 8
[10:03] <escape> there should be a tar.gz on apachefriends.org @zorz
[10:03] <zaggynl> does uboto have a !lucky or !google function?
[10:03] <escape> @kendals: install linux-kernel-headers
[10:04] <zaggynl> !google
[10:04] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[10:04] <zaggynl> !lucky
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lucky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <zaggynl> !women
[10:04] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[10:04] <zaggynl> :D
[10:04] <ufoz> hmmm. no i am getting radi_setup fatal error when starting lilo
[10:04] <escape> !rules
[10:04] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:04] <ufoz> that all sounds not good. and only from an upgrade
[10:04] <kendals> thanks escape
[10:05] <kendals> unfortunately, it confirmed what i already jnew- already have the latest.
[10:05] <kendals> stupid parallels 2.2 workstation is playing up :)
[10:05] <kendals> :( rather
[10:05] <escape> i had to compile my w-lan switch as the upgrade was done yesterday.. now everything works fine again. on my fujistu siemens laptop :)
[10:05] <escape> no problem @kendals
[10:05] <kendals> "
[10:05] <kendals> Module vm-main is not found! Parallels Workstation 2.2 is installed, but it has not been configured for your running kernel. To configure it please login as root and run parallels-config."
[10:06] <kendals> So even though yesterday, it was working, I humour it today and type parallels-config (as root), and it says "nable to find linux kernel source.
[10:06] <kendals>      To configure Parallels Workstation 2.2 you should have
[10:06] <kendals>      kernel source package for your Linux system installed.
[10:06] <kendals> "
[10:06] <Madpilot> That's interesting... .otf fonts open in the Character Map util, instead of the Font Viewer util that ttf fonts get opened in when you double-click on them
[10:06] <cafuego> kendals: Did you install the updated headers for the new kernel that was distributed overnight?
[10:06] <kendals> umm.
[10:06] <kendals> cafuego: how do i check that?
[10:06] <Janchi> fatbrain, did it work before?
[10:06] <kendals> I know I updated something last night.
[10:06] <escape> right... you should have them too
[10:07] <escape> apt-cache search kernel headers
[10:07] <escape> and install
[10:07] <escape> then you should see if they are up to date
[10:08] <kendals> i do the apt-cache search kernel headers bit
[10:08] <escape> whish you all good look. whatever you do... stay true to your linux :o) i'm off. having breakfast and then i have to go to work
[10:08] <kendals> and it displays stuff.
[10:08] <kendals> then what?
[10:08] <sorush20> apt-get is now multithread download
[10:08] <sorush20> ?
[10:08] <escape> try |grep kernel headers
[10:08] <kendals> ok thanks
[10:08] <kendals> get going! :)
[10:09] <escape> bye there
[10:11] <kendals> how do i uninstall parallels?
[10:12] <Flannel> what is parallels?
[10:13] <Janchi> @ Flannel, something like VMware and Xen
[10:13] <Flannel> How did you install it?
[10:13] <XiXaQ> kendals, no, I mean VMWare Tools; the package which makes a virtual machine run smoother and with better graphics.
[10:14] <kendals> oh.
[10:14] <kendals> run vm-player or server or whatever
[10:14] <kendals> and click tools or something, then click install vmware tools.
[10:14] <XiXaQ> I'm running Ubuntu inside of a Virtual Machine on Windows. I need to install the "powerup"
[10:14] <kendals> it's in the vmware client thing...
[10:14] <__sawyer__> can anyone please point me to solving the "BadLength" GLX error mystery?
[10:14] <XiXaQ> yes, but then it mounts a cd which I cannot read.
[10:14] <kendals> it should try to grab it off the web...
[10:14] <kendals> ?
[10:14] <Flannel> XiXaQ: remove the CDrom from your sources.list
[10:14] <__sawyer__> i tried reinstalling xorg but didn't succeed
[10:14] <XiXaQ> therefore I need to download the rpm or deb from somewhere. When I mount the cd, I only get files with names like c-code.
[10:14] <kendals> gw flannel :)
[10:15] <alessdoc> Hi, my boot-partition (50MB) is full 100%. How can i solve this problem? Is there a way to delete no-longer-usede packages in this partition?
[10:15] <__sawyer__> alessdoc: you can remove obsolete kernel images
[10:15] <Flannel> alessdoc: apt-get clean or apt-get autoclean
[10:15] <alessdoc> thanks
[10:15] <alessdoc> i try
[10:16] <surface-> alessdoc: dpkg -l to check what are not used and delete it.
[10:16] <__sawyer__> has anyone encountered BadLength when trying to load Xgl?
[10:16] <zaggynl> __sawyer__, try the channel #ubuntu-xgl for xgl specific questions
[10:17] <__sawyer__> will do, thanks
[10:17] <alessdoc> surface- i thought that ih the boot partition there is only the grub packages
[10:17] <bikstopa> hi
[10:18] <surface-> alessdoc: ops sorry, boot-partition.
[10:19] <alessdoc> yes
[10:25] <GoOdcm> need help about ekiga sound problem
[10:27] <linuxboy> edgy seems to boot much faster then dapper. any idea why?
[10:27] <Flannel> linuxboy: initNG
[10:27] <GoOdcm> upstart
[10:27] <linuxboy> Flannel: initNG? isn't it upstart?
[10:27] <cafuego> penguin grease
[10:28] <Flannel> er, is it upstart?  whatever it's called ;)  yeah, upstart.
[10:28] <treedreamer> hey,it is a bit annoying that you have to reinstall the vmware,but it is strange that when you run /etc/init.d/vmware stop,the  Virtual ethernet
[10:29] <treedreamer> cannot be stoped
[10:31] <silents> Hey, does anyone know how to finish editing a file using the VI command in Ubuntu Terminal (linux n00b :(
[10:32] <Madpilot> silents, use nano next time you need a terminal text editor, it's far easier to use than vi
[10:32] <fdoving> silents: esc-ZZ (that's shift+z-z)
[10:33] <treedreamer> silents:press ESC and try CTRL+:wq
[10:33] <kryptoz> Hi all
[10:33] <silents> thanks a lot!
[10:33] <dibblego> what software can be used to edit a PDF document?
[10:33] <silents> im not sure if i can use that, i am using ubuntu server with the xubuntu GUI
[10:33] <kryptoz> where do i find repositories for ubuntu ?
[10:33] <Madpilot> silents, nano is another terminal editor, it'll run anywhere
[10:34] <_JP> how do i see total processor load from command line?
[10:34] <kryptoz> i enabled the whole repos in the synaptic by default. But when i try to install gammu and pptpconfig it says not found
[10:34] <silents> thanks madpilot, ill check it out
[10:34] <kryptoz> can anyone help me please
[10:34] <Madpilot> !info gammu
[10:34] <ubotu> Package gammu does not exist in any distro I know
[10:34] <surface-> silents: esc :x
[10:34] <cafuego> _JP: uptime
[10:34] <kryptoz> !info pptpconfig
[10:34] <zaggynl> What to do against: 'Too many open files' ?
[10:34] <ubotu> Package pptpconfig does not exist in any distro I know
[10:34] <Madpilot> kryptoz, looks like gammu doesn't exist in any of Ubuntu's repos...
[10:34] <_JP> cafuego: thanks
[10:34] <kryptoz> yeah but i can get repos where it maybe available rite ?
[10:35] <typecast> kryptoz: gammu is in universe
[10:35] <agt> a good sources.list here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758
[10:35] <kryptoz> hey agt, thank you soo much
[10:35] <kryptoz> thanx typecast, everyone
[10:36] <typecast> dibblego: i don't know any free application that allows editing of pdf-files
[10:37] <zaggynl> Anyone knows a Linux alternative to Treesize? (http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml)
[10:38] <botxj> i'm sure there's a linux command for that
[10:38] <lupine_85> du :)
[10:39] <JosefK> du -ksh *path*
[10:39] <we2by> how do u allow windows to go under the panel?
[10:39] <zaggynl> :D
[10:39] <zaggynl> But is there frontend for it?
[10:39] <surface-> to know more about linux command and the example, can check this out www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[10:39] <typecast> zaggynl: xdiskusage or kdirstat
[10:39] <lupine_85> konsole? ;)
[10:40] <zaggynl> typecast, cheers!
[10:44] <eaioo> Hello,  I want to recompile the Ubuntu kernel to enable a few options but I also want to include the restircted drivers that are missing if I compile a vanilla kernel from kernel.org.  Anybody got any usefull links to start from ?
[10:46] <lupine_85> !kernel
[10:46] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:46] <lupine_85> IIRC you can compile linux-restricted-modules as well
[10:47] <eaioo> thanks..  I
[10:47] <mneptarrrr> arrr!
[10:50] <Administrator__> lsl
[10:52] <surface-> don't show ur ubuntu to girl, you will get slap, check out Trocisp  story at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-156133.html
[10:52] <botxj> dotn show my ubuntu to my girlfriend?
[10:53] <Lynoure> surface-: It's annoying when something one female does is generalized to 50% of the world population
[10:53] <surface-> trocisp get slapped, because he wants to show his ubuntu to a girl.
[10:53] <botxj> i dont get why showing your ubuntu to your girl is a bad thing
[10:53] <botxj> unless "ubuntu" means gentials
[10:53] <surface-> i have no idea,  ( : it is a joke.
[10:54] <botxj> ha
[10:54] <botxj> did i say gentials? i meant genitals
[10:56] <fcomtois> hello i have some problem with my usb mouse who doesn't get detected
[10:56] <botxj> fcomtois is it one of those mice here you have to unplug and plug back in so it can get detected upon linux boot time?
[10:57] <fcomtois> no it use to be fine with my previous ubuntu installation
[10:57] <botxj> oh
[10:57] <fcomtois> but ever since i've formatted, and reinstalled ubuntu server, it's not working
[10:58] <botxj> was it an older version of ubuntu?
[10:58] <fcomtois> nope, I was running latest version of dapper
[10:58] <botxj> i meant compared to the version you reinstalled it with
[10:59] <fcomtois> well it was the same, since i've upgraded everything to the current
[10:59] <fcomtois> my mouse isn't weird, it's a standard MX510
[10:59] <botxj> does it get detected in windows?
[11:00] <fcomtois> don't have window
[11:00] <fcomtois> I'm abroad right now, with my crappy laptop :-p
[11:02] <elkbuntu> !nz is the New Zealand LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-nz
[11:02] <rambo3> did you check forums for logitech mouse
[11:02] <botxj> could be maybe a driver wasnt installed, or maybe you made ubuntu loads something else first and searches for usb mice later than your mx510 powers up
[11:02] <elkbuntu> oh, right, pm
[11:03] <rambo3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&highlight=logitech+mouse
[11:03] <fcomtois> well everything was working fine this morning before i've format it
[11:04] <fcomtois> is possible to do something like modprobe or...?
[11:05] <belekas> hello
[11:05] <usli> guys
[11:05] <belekas> how do i install linux in /boot partition if i already have installed it? i need to reinstall or what?
[11:05] <usli> do u know how to open a lit extension file
[11:06] <belekas> when i reinstalled the vmlinuz image did not appeared in the /boot directory
[11:06] <jaycomp2001> any one here know where the config.php file should be
[11:07] <rambo3> vmlinuz is simlink to linux-image-***
[11:07] <usli> !lit
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <usli> !.lit
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <belekas> rambo3: how could i find it and how could i reinstall it?
[11:08] <belekas> coz i deleted /boot partition accidentaly yesterday :x
[11:08] <we2by> how do u allow windows to go under the panel?
[11:08] <lannis> I am a chinese,but the system isn't include any program for me to type in chinese
[11:09] <rambo3> sudo aptitude install llinux-image-686
[11:09] <jaycomp2001> !.config.php
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about config.php - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <belekas> ok thanks trying. bbs on fail
[11:09] <rambo3> belakas are you on live cd ?
[11:09] <lannis> Is ubotu a machine?
[11:09] <CarinArr> yes
[11:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell lannis about yourself
[11:10] <xevix> why is the ubuntu cd requested to isntall libtool?  can't i install it from the web?
[11:10] <kalif> !ubotu
[11:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:10] <rambo3> xevix yes
[11:10] <xevix> rambo3, how do i tell it to use the web to install?
[11:11] <Madpilot> xevix, remove the CDROM from your sources
[11:11] <rambo3> change sources in synaptic. remove cd add main to repos
[11:11] <xevix> thx
[11:12] <belekas> hello again
[11:12] <jaycomp2001> config.php anyone know about
[11:12] <linopil> !alsa
[11:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:12] <belekas> !boot
[11:12] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:14] <rambo3> jaycomp2001, you can use phpmyadmin for that
[11:14] <zaggynl> I don't get this, I download qtorrent with synaptic, but it's way different then the version on here: How do I get the latest qtorrent? The one in the reps is v2.91 while the latest on their site is
[11:14] <lannis> when i in GURB,what do i type in to return to the windows bootloader
[11:14] <zaggynl> http://thegraveyard.org/qtorrent.php
[11:15] <jaycomp2001> do you know where it it supposed to be
[11:15] <Administrator__> hi all
[11:15] <jaycomp2001> the config.php file
[11:15] <djy> HI
[11:16] <djy> oh too many one
[11:16] <rambo3> jaycomp2001, sudo updatedb && locate config.php
[11:17] <linopil> lannis: in grub you need chainloader
[11:17] <linopil> lannis google   << other grub chainloader windows >>
[11:18] <zaggynl> How do I use this in Ubuntu: http://thegraveyard.org/qtorrent.php
[11:18] <lannis> Yes I type in chainloader (hd0)+1 then type in boot,but it's wrong
[11:19] <acik> this os cannot detetct my wifi card
[11:19] <Uberpussy> zaggynl: sudo apt-get install qtorrent
[11:19] <cafuego> lannis: Just "chainloader +1"
[11:20] <zaggynl> Uberpussy, but that qtorrent looks way different from the version on the site
[11:20] <linopil> I am nnot so experienced in GRUB
[11:20] <acik> how to make ubuntu detect my wifi card
[11:20] <botxj> how do linux drivers work exactly?
[11:20] <michael159> hello guys... i've got some problem with my athlon64x2 3800+ process
[11:21] <linopil> acik some cards are used thru ndiwswrapper which somehow uses windows drivers
[11:21] <linopil> not trivial to me
[11:21] <michael159> hello guys... i've got some problem with my athlon64x2 3800+ processor speed: according to /proc/cpuinfo its only 1000 mhy insted of the expected 2000
[11:21] <acidjames_> michael159, you need the smp kernel
[11:21] <michael159> sorry for my double posting *g*
[11:21] <lannis> next time,i have a try
[11:21] <lannis> thanks
[11:22] <cafuego> michael: It's idle, so it's not running at full speed. This is normal.
[11:22] <linopil> good for # ubuntu  ! all the time more than 850 ppl
[11:22] <belekas> is there any way to completely reinstall /boot partition?
[11:22] <cafuego> michael159: The moment you make it do work, it speed sup.
[11:22] <JoseStefan> arrr, wheres me capt'n!
[11:23] <cafuego> JoseStefan: Arr, he walked the plank, matey!
[11:23] <acik> linopil i m new to linux i m confused, pls what shall i do about this wifi card
[11:23] <botxj> what is ndiwswrapper and does it do whatever it does for all windows drivers?
[11:23] <michael159> ah, thanks acidjames_ ... do you know if there is a live distribution which has one? the best would be if it supported the amd64 architecture... the problem is that atm i dont have enough disk space for installing linux...
[11:23] <linopil> belekas must be  good Q
[11:23] <Uberpussy> zaggynl: Thats a later version, just download the tar and use it like it says
[11:24] <JoseStefan> cafuego: we aint got enough grog in tis isle, bucko!
[11:24] <belekas> is there any way to completely reinstall /boot partition? i have accidentaly deleted the partition :(
[11:24] <ajmitch> JoseStefan: that's painful
[11:24] <michael159> cafuego: unforunately not. i compared the 64-bit distributed.net client with the 32-bit version under win2k and its only half as fast
[11:24] <linopil> acik slow down you have the other card wired. me too slowly learning this
[11:24] <Flannel> bucko?  JoseStefan turn in your pirate card, go on. ;)
[11:24] <belekas> and now i cant boot noramlly
[11:24] <zaggynl> Uberpussy, I tried running the files, but either nothing happens or I get a permission denied
[11:24] <belekas> normally*
[11:24] <acidjames_> michael159, i'm not into live linux, maybe distrowatch? still the 1000Mhz can be the idle state as cafuego said
[11:24] <botxj> what is ndiwswrapper and does it do whatever it does for all windows drivers?
[11:25] <acik> i ve to use wired card
[11:25] <linopil> on this PC I have wifi  rt2516 waitng to be configured and used
[11:25] <JoseStefan> Flannel, you cant have me treasure
[11:25] <linopil> !ndiswrapper
[11:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:25] <botxj> what is ndiwswrapper and does it do whatever it does for all windows drivers?
[11:26] <linopil> !ndiswrapper @botxj
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswrapper @botxj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <botxj> lol
[11:26] <Hybernate> any one here know why i cant connect the mouse and key board using BT the BT manager finds the key/mouse but i cant connect them and use em
[11:27] <daurn> hey all
[11:27] <linopil> what is BT Hybernate
[11:27] <Hybernate> bluetooth
[11:27] <daurn> i'm having a problem with a password protected rar
[11:27] <linopil> Ah
[11:27] <daurn> - i open it in archive manager
[11:27] <michael159> thanks acidjames_ ... hm i think its likely not the idle state as the distibuted.net client is half as fast as under windows... hmm... do you also think that the missing smp kernel is the point as cat /proc/cpuinfo gives me two processors? i hope this is no newbie question *g*
[11:27] <daurn> and it says to goto password under Edit
[11:27] <daurn> but its greyed out
[11:27] <lannis> any one know that,I copy all the files on live CD to hard disk,then how can i make it run with GRUB
[11:28] <daurn> - what do i do?
[11:28] <inmah> ola
[11:28] <belekas> daurn: try opening it with RAR from www.rarlabs.com i think
[11:28] <daurn> belekas:  isn't it windows only?
[11:28] <belekas> or google for some RAR GUI tool
[11:28] <JoseStefan> !info unrar-free
[11:28] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[11:28] <zaggynl> 7z or 7zip can unpack rar files
[11:28] <daurn> JoseStefan: i've tried that as well - no result
[11:29] <JoseStefan> !info unrar
[11:29] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[11:29] <daurn> its as if the file is empty
[11:29] <dw__> has anyone gotten the headphone jack working with a nforce mpc51 high-definition audio interface?
[11:29] <ikonia> hello all
[11:29] <inmah> que pasa
[11:29] <inmah> aky
[11:29] <JoseStefan> !es
[11:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:29] <ikonia> has anyone had problems with the nvidia driver packaged with ubuntu not understanding the EDID's of the nvidia cards
[11:29] <belekas> :S
[11:29] <acidjames_> michael159, the smp kernel will allow true multithreading and SSE stuff, i dont think it will change the speed in mhz, still a dual core processor = smp kernel, you always have to do that
[11:30] <belekas> need to boot my old system :(
[11:30] <belekas> michael159: if you use 32bit installation get linux-k7-smp
[11:30] <acik> any antivirus for ubuntu linux???
[11:30] <Ertan> s.a
[11:30] <Ertan> :D
[11:30] <JoseStefan> !virus > acik
[11:30] <botxj> there are no viruses for linux
[11:30] <aLoSs> a.s
[11:30] <aLoSs> :D
[11:30] <belekas> :D
[11:30] <aLoSs> naber ertan
[11:30] <aLoSs> iler nas gidiyo
[11:30] <inmah> no entiendo nasa
[11:31] <tourach> no viruses, only features
[11:31] <aLoSs> oluk ocuk nas
[11:31] <Flannel> !antivirus
[11:31] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[11:31] <aLoSs> la bunlar
[11:31] <michael159> belekas: thanks, i will try this later on
[11:31] <botxj> am i right, there are no viruses or spam in linux
[11:31] <aLoSs> hangi dil konuuyo
[11:31] <Hybernate> did i swap channel without noticing it?
[11:31] <JoseStefan> !es > inmah
[11:31] <Ertan> :D
[11:31] <belekas> np
[11:31] <Flannel> botxj: spam?  spam is OS-free
[11:31] <Uberpussy> zaggynl: chmod 755 ./name-of-file-to-make-executable; then run it again
[11:31] <aLoSs> aq ertan
[11:31] <aLoSs> cvp ver
[11:31] <Ertan> Elhamdlillah Sen naslsn aLoSs
[11:31] <CromagDK> botxj: spam is a mail syndrome, virus is code.
[11:31] <Ertan> :D
[11:31] <aLoSs> iyidir
[11:31] <aLoSs> walla
[11:31] <aLoSs> oluk cocuk nas
[11:31] <Ertan> valla iyidir
[11:31] <daurn> JoseStefan: ah, non-free worked :D - but, i'd like a gui for next time
[11:31] <Ertan> La burdakiler a.k sizin
[11:31] <daurn> what do you suggest?
[11:31] <aLoSs> alayn skicen
[11:31] <Ertan> Gavur piler
[11:31] <CromagDK> ehm ?
[11:31] <belekas> does anybody already know anything about how to restore my lost /boot partition ???? *help plz*
[11:31] <aLoSs> bunlarn
[11:31] <aLoSs> ne
[11:31] <aLoSs> diyon
[11:31] <Ertan> :D
[11:31] <aLoSs> as
[11:31] <JoseStefan> !tr
[11:31] <aLoSs> d
[11:31] <aLoSs> s
[11:31] <aLoSs> :D
[11:32] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:32] <aLoSs> s.d
[11:32] <CromagDK> stop
[11:32] <aLoSs> sa.d
[11:32] <aLoSs> sd.
[11:32] <JoseStefan> !ops
[11:32] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:32] <aLoSs> sa
[11:32] <Juftus> Stop that, people!
[11:32] <aLoSs> sd
[11:32] <zaggynl> Uberpussy, thanks I'll try that
[11:32] <Ertan> muhahahaah
[11:32] <aLoSs> as
[11:32] <linopil> stop flooding
[11:32] <aLoSs> d.a
[11:32] <aLoSs> D:
[11:32] <aLoSs> D:
[11:32] <linopil> is that Turkish?
[11:32] <Ertan> Turkish
[11:32] <botxj> Flannel and CromagDK i was talking about adware, not spam, sorry, you know those annoying spam bomb programs that install in windows through Internet Explorer?
[11:32] <JoseStefan> yes turkish i think, by ip-to-country
[11:32] <Ertan> From Mazmahor
[11:32] <belekas> does anybody already know anything about how to restore my lost /boot partition ???? *help plz*
[11:33] <linopil> calm down Turkish guys
[11:33] <Hybernate> did any one have a clue where i might go to find some info on how to connect Mouse and keyboard using Bluetooth?
[11:33] <JoseStefan> !tr > aLoSs
[11:33] <Ertan> Ezan Okunuyor Iman edin Lan
[11:33] <CromagDK> Hybernate: tried the links in topic ?
[11:33] <CromagDK> lots of help there
[11:33] <CromagDK> !bluetooth
[11:33] <JosefK> Hybernate: :/
[11:33] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:33] <JosefK> [10:29]  <pub^wavydaveygr> blimey hello joe
[11:34] <JosefK> gah, apologies, infernal c+p
[11:34] <Hybernate> cant find anything there about key board and from what i see i cant aply any of the otherstuff to my problem
[11:34] <JosefK> Hybernate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothMouse
[11:34] <botxj> i mean i dont think there are any spam programs in linux
[11:34] <CromagDK> botxj: spam programs ?
[11:34] <CromagDK> not sure i know what you mean
[11:34] <botxj> spyware
[11:34] <botxj> adware
[11:34] <JosefK> well, postfix is always good for spam
[11:34] <CromagDK> theres a big difference.
[11:34] <Hybernate> JosefK: thx
[11:34] <neilg> 'lo
[11:35] <belekas> does anybody already know anything about how to restore my lost /boot partition ???? *help plz*
[11:35] <botxj> CromagDK i know spam is in emails, but spam also happens in programs, through spam trojans and stuff that you get when you run internet explorer on dangerous sites
[11:35] <dw__> anyone who has a hp pavilion dv9000 series notebook?
[11:35] <CromagDK> belekas: how did it get removed ?
[11:36] <micahcowan> belekas, if that's what it sounds like, it'd be pretty advanced knowledge, if it was even possible.
[11:36] <micahcowan> lost how?
[11:36] <CromagDK> botxj: thosde popups ?
[11:36] <belekas> i accidentaly made a swap out of it
[11:36] <belekas> swap partition
[11:36] <scrp> if i download a .deb file, how can i make dapper install it for me? do i use apt-get ?
[11:36] <botxj> CromagDK you havent used windows much have you? lol
[11:36] <neilg> i'm having difficulty getting my acer travelmate 5610 hooked up to my wireless network - i have the network name and key in correctly in networking and it says eth1 up, but i don't get an IP
[11:36] <micahcowan> belekas, it's pretty much buggered, then. Especially if you /used/ it as swap.
[11:36] <neilg> any ideas how i could debug?
[11:36] <CromagDK> belekas: uh.. donno right now.
[11:36] <tristan_> Did someone install properly an INtuix S800/Toshiba/Liteon USB TV key?
[11:37] <micahcowan> Even if you didn't, you'd have to be fs guru to fix it. You'll just need to make a fresh one.
[11:37] <belekas> i did not used it as swap
[11:37] <CromagDK>  botxj im just trying to figure out what you are thinking of :)
[11:37] <belekas> just ran mkswap over it
[11:37] <belekas> :(
[11:37] <JosefK> if you ran 'mkswap', it's gone
[11:37] <belekas> however it dissapeared
[11:37] <CromagDK> make new
[11:37] <belekas> and now i recreated the partition it self
[11:37] <CromagDK> then fix grub
[11:37] <belekas> but not the files in it like kernel images and stuff
[11:37] <CromagDK> should be ok shouldnt it ?
[11:37] <zaggynl> I can't use Force Version in Synaptic for qtorrent :(
[11:37] <belekas> how?
[11:37] <belekas> :)
[11:38] <belekas> is there any howto?
[11:38] <micahcowan> belekas, If I were you, I'd do a fresh install... but it may be adequate to force reinstallation of the linux kernel image and grub.
[11:38] <JosefK> belekas: it's possible you could boot using the live cd, mount your partitions then chroot into it
[11:38] <botxj> CromagDK well, i've seen windows pc's of low educated users get so filled up with spyware and a few viruses that it was just pathetic. the spyware would open IE windows by themselves with tons of ads that fill up the screen no matter how many times you kill the IE process
[11:38] <JosefK> belekas: once you're there, force a reinstall for the latest kernel and GRUB
[11:38] <belekas> i did
[11:38] <belekas> i am now even chrooted
[11:39] <belekas> but only inird image is there now
[11:39] <CromagDK> botxj: what i said, popups.
[11:39] <belekas> no sight of vmlinuz
[11:39] <micahcowan> belekas, than the kernel was not reinstalled correctly.
[11:39] <micahcowan> *then
[11:39] <JosefK> belekas: indeed, it'd be gone - have you forced the reinstall?
[11:39] <botxj> ok, then CromagDK, i'll use that terminology, yes "popups"
[11:39] <belekas> yea with apt-get --reinstall install linux-k7-smp
[11:39] <botxj> popups generated by intrusive viruses and spyware trojans
[11:40] <CromagDK> botxj: well viral code is NOT common in linux from websites afaik
[11:40] <JosefK> belekas: that would only reinstall the metapackage, _not_ the kernel
[11:40] <botxj> i know CromagDK, that's the great thing about it
[11:40] <belekas> and how to reinstall the kernel?
[11:40] <lannis> Bye Bye ,everyone
[11:40] <belekas> :S
[11:40] <CromagDK> botxj: then im not sure why you ask.
[11:40] <JosefK> belekas: aptitude show linux-k7-smp - reinstall all the packages that 'depends' on
[11:41] <belekas> ok doing.
[11:41] <belekas> :)
[11:41] <belekas> thx
[11:41] <JosefK> belekas: np's :) do the same for grub too
[11:41] <botxj> CromagDK i wasnt asking, i was informing the other guy here who was talking about having antivirus software
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> popups are made by ad-ware or spyware
[11:41] <CromagDK> doh hah
[11:41] <CromagDK> my bad :)
[11:41] <botxj> cause i laughed when i saw the words "antivirus" and "linux" in the same sentence, lol
[11:41] <CromagDK> well, its possible.
[11:42] <botxj> ya it is
[11:42] <botxj> but the possibility is TINY TINY TINY
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> its like this
[11:42] <CromagDK> heh jaa
[11:42] <aci1> botxj, i m new to linux that why i ask, some say no harm in asking???
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> windows is the fat ugly kid and linux is the good looking kid
[11:42] <micahcowan> There's absolutely nothing to stop adware or spyware from proliferating on Linux. Firefox has always been riddled with its own share of vulnerabilities. The main reason you don't see them is that Linux isn't a big enough target: you certainly don't need root to get hassled by adware/spyware
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> its easier to tease the fat kid than it is the good looking
[11:43] <CromagDK> aci1: there is no harm at all, we just discuss :)
[11:43] <unfknblvbl> thats why windows has infestations
[11:43] <botxj> aci1, sorry i didnt mean to offend you in any way
[11:43] <micahcowan> viruses, otoh, are a completely 'nother story
[11:43] <CromagDK> aci1: i misunderstood something hehe
[11:43] <aci1> its ok
[11:43] <botxj> aci1, but ya gotta give a chuckle once in a while to milestones you've overcome in the past
[11:43] <CromagDK> well, i would say, viral code can me executed on a linux system, no doubt.
[11:44] <botxj> automatically though, CromagDK?
[11:44] <micahcowan> sure, absolutely. But it's hard to do much without higher priveleges, really.
[11:44] <CromagDK> with participation
[11:44] <botxj> yeah participation
[11:44] <botxj> but not automatically
[11:44] <botxj> right?
[11:44] <aci1> that why i m using linux now cos some say its the safest os
[11:44] <micahcowan> botxj, sure. Linux has buffer exploits too...
[11:44] <CromagDK> when getting a virus you have to do stuff to
[11:44] <botxj> micahcowan, say whah!
[11:44] <CromagDK> in windows
[11:44] <micahcowan> it can happen, it's just... where you go from there isn't as easy as Windows.
[11:44] <botxj> micahcowan ah
[11:45] <zaggynl> http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruslistfind?words=linux&page=1
[11:45] <JoseStefan> !pastebin > bl4cktone
[11:46] <neilg> i'm having difficulty getting my acer travelmate 5610 hooked up to my wireless network - i have the network name and key in correctly in networking and it says eth1 up, but i don't get an IP - any ideas how i could debug this?
[11:46] <botxj> !what > does_this_do?
[11:46] <aci1> now i m trying to config my wifi card
[11:46] <micahcowan> botxj, it asks ubotu to private msg you information about the topic named by !what
[11:46] <micahcowan> !ubotu > botxj
[11:46] <botxj> lol, nice
[11:47] <belekas> nothing :9
[11:47] <belekas> still no sight of vmlinuz
[11:47] <belekas> damn
[11:47] <JosefK> hmm, anything in /boot now though?
[11:47] <belekas> yea
[11:47] <JosefK> okay, that's fine - have you reinstalled GRUB?
[11:47] <botxj> i like this network's unique hostnames and /quit messages schemes
[11:47] <belekas> grub with its files and initrd image
[11:47] <JosefK> sudo update-grub ?
[11:47] <sky123> hello is anyone pretty good with port forwarding and apache??
[11:48] <belekas> it does not add any option to the menu.lst
[11:48] <belekas> as there is no kernel image
[11:48] <sky123> specifically i have a site foo.org that is forwarded to an internal box which is just fine...I want moo.foo.org to go to another internal box...how do you do that??
[11:48] <JosefK> heh, that's what I meant when I asked if anything was in /boot, sorry
[11:49] <belekas> hm
[11:49] <belekas> i will purge the kernels and isntall them again
[11:49] <belekas> maybe will help :S
[11:49] <JosefK> there's always dpkg --force-reinstreq
[11:49] <JoseStefan> belekas, dont purge all at the same time, keep a working one
[11:50] <JosefK> JoseStefan: he doesn't have a working one :) totalled his /boot partition with mkswap
[11:50] <aSTeK> JoseStefan is there a graphical version of irssi? i mean a version like kvirc is
[11:50] <predaeus> sky123: if nobody here can help you, you can still ask in #iptables.
[11:50] <JoseStefan> aSTeK, i dont know, i just use xchat
[11:50] <belekas> nope
[11:50] <belekas> same
[11:50] <belekas> :
[11:50] <belekas> :/
[11:51] <micahcowan> belekas, make sure you've forced reinstall of linux-image-2.6.15-<whatever>...
[11:51] <belekas> and what is that <whatever> ? :O
[11:51] <JosefK> your arch :)
[11:51] <belekas> k7 then
[11:51] <belekas> :p
[11:51] <JoseStefan> whatever = 386 (usually)
[11:51] <sky123> predaues: thnx...will do...butnot sure if its an apache mod_rewrite thing or not... trying to get a web request togotwo different places internally based on the url.
[11:51] <JoseStefan> 386 to solve basic issues
[11:51] <micahcowan> sky123, that sounds like a DNS config issue to me.... you want moo.foo.org to have a different IP than foo.org
[11:52] <micahcowan> Although, if it's just a web thing, it actually doesn't need to be a different IP
[11:52] <predaeus> sky123: ah I see, thought it was routing/firewalling specific.
[11:52] <sky123> yeah...
[11:52] <fourat> hiya all
[11:52] <sky123> i have seen it done before...but was looking for some one who had pulled it off.
[11:52] <sky123> ;)
[11:53] <fourat> i discovered a wifi network at home, its uncrypted but i cant connect to it, how can i hack into it ?
[11:53] <zaggynl> In most countries that's iilegal fourat
[11:53] <micahcowan> fourat, not topical here.
[11:53] <zaggynl> *illegal
[11:53] <Stevo> what's illegal?
[11:53] <deddly> do the crime, do the time
[11:53] <sky123> !hacker
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hacker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <fourat> zaggynl, not illegal !
[11:53] <sky123> exactly
[11:54] <zaggynl> !girls
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <Stevo> lol
[11:54] <zaggynl> :>
[11:54] <Stevo> uh huh
[11:54] <sky123> fourat: google it
[11:54] <Stevo> oh man it's too early in the morning to be awake
[11:54] <we2by> http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=codingonubuntues1.png
[11:54] <micahcowan> fourat, people have been arrested for doing exactly that. Whether it's illegal or not, anyway, it's not a topic to discuss here.
[11:55] <zaggynl> we2by, hey, dutch?
[11:55] <Stevo> :|  hacking?
[11:55] <JosefK> nice desktop layout we2by
[11:55] <we2by> yea
[11:55] <sky123> micahcowan: honey pots...you get caught you go to jail..
[11:55] <we2by> thank you :)
[11:55] <deddly> gray area
[11:55] <Stevo> jail isn't cool
[11:55] <belekas> it is not illegal in my country
[11:55] <belekas> :D
[11:55] <deddly> ask mitnick
[11:55] <Stevo> bel> hacking?
[11:56] <zaggynl> zerocool :P
[11:56] <belekas> hacking wifi net
[11:56] <belekas> :)
[11:56] <belekas> as most ppl dont have it anyway :/
[11:56] <sky123> shit everything is illegal these days in the states...lol
[11:56] <belekas> and where it is it is free
[11:56] <micah_c> belekas, don't forget the DeCSS guy.... he got extradited, even though what he did was legal in his country (doesn't actually apply to hacking neighbor's wifi, though, I guess...)
[11:56] <Stevo> lol  who the hell would really bother getting you arrested for stealing their signal?
[11:56] <JosefK> everything is prohibited, especially that which is permitted :/
[11:56] <deddly> what defcon is states in?
[11:56] <JoseStefan> is it really hacking if the network is 100% open? most wifi setups would connect to it without asking
[11:57] <Stevo> if theirs no key or encryption, it's not illegal
[11:57] <Stevo> there's*
[11:57] <deddly> fact stevo?
[11:57] <sky123> its about usage my friend...once you "inadvertently" connect do you plan to use it??
[11:57] <Stevo> deddly> yep
[11:57] <belekas> anyway its not the topic we should chat here about :p
[11:57] <sky123> right
[11:58] <belekas> i still need to boot from my hdds and not this cappy livecd :(
[11:58] <JoseStefan> sky123, some users might not notice what they are doing, especially with the default router names
[11:58] <micahcowan> Stevo, not true in my country. I can't swear it's illegal, but I /can/ swear people have been arrested for it.
[11:58] <Stevo> ew @ live cd
[11:58] <zaggynl> we2by, http://www.ethicalhacker.net/content/view/16/24/
[11:58] <mjr> deddly, unsurprisingly, it depends on the jurisdiction
[11:58] <Stevo> micah> what country?
[11:58] <micahcowan> USA
[11:58] <mjr> I doubt it's legal in many, though
[11:58] <Stevo> what state?
[11:58] <micahcowan> CA
[11:58] <deddly> whats defcon status in states?
[11:58] <we2by> zaggynl, what about it?
[11:58] <sky123> hate to say it...but then they shouldnt be using a computer...sorry there is no "any" key...lol
[11:59] <Stevo> weird.  i'm in SC.  never heard of someone getting in trouble for connecting to an *open* connection
[11:59] <micahcowan> Stevo, no kidding? That's where I live too ^_^
[11:59] <botxj> http://pichostwizard.com/show.php?id=269569 <--- that is my ubuntu desktop, y'all
[11:59] <belekas> imho in USA it is illegal everything where you can make money... so you would be forced to BUY stuff then :(
[11:59] <zaggynl> we2by, some info about wireless networks and tools to use them
[11:59] <Stevo> micah> i thought you were in CA??
[11:59] <we2by> zaggynl, that page teaches me how to crak wireless network :\
[12:00] <micahcowan> Stevo, it's rare. Usually it's a guy in a van acting very suspicious and using a laptop (drive-by wifi). I may have heard of one actual neighbor case as well, but it's extremely rare.
[12:00] <_lyte_> Hi all
[12:00] <sky123> strange how its being discussed AFTER someone says lets not discuss it here... good grief.
[12:00] <micahcowan> But, it does exist...
[12:00] <_lyte_> i installed xgl using synaptic
[12:00] <zaggynl> we2by, sorry I fail at highlighting today :x
[12:00] <micahcowan> sky123, good point :/
[12:00] <zaggynl> fourat, http://www.ethicalhacker.net/content/view/16/24/
[12:00] <mjr> Stevo, that you haven't heard of anyone getting in trouble is not the definition of "legal"
[12:00] <_lyte_> but now how do i enable the features of it ? anyone done this before ?
[12:00] <Stevo> micah> well, that's just shady anyway.  if you're stealing someones connection for the purpose of doing illegal things, i'm sure they'd tack that on as a charge...  ya know?
[12:00] <fourat> zaggynl, thx yo
[12:01] <we2by> I'm off to school
[12:01] <deddly> its the way of the world sky, even in the "garden", they only thought of the tree, when they were told not to
[12:01] <micahcowan> mjr, yes, but someone being arrested for it, even, isn't actually proof something's illegal. I think the matter hasn't really been decided conclusively yet, but...
[12:01] <_lyte_> any help on the xgl ?
[12:01] <JoseStefan> !xgl > _lyte_
[12:01] <Stevo> what part of SC micah?
[12:01] <Stevo> i'm in Charleston
[12:01] <zaggynl> fourat, google power :P
[12:01] <mjr> anyway, the whole wlan discussion is really #ubuntu-offtopic-material
[12:01] <Stevo> mjr> indeed
[12:02] <JoseStefan> only the chatroom doesnt exist
[12:02] <fcomtois> can anybody tell me which package I need to have all the normal fonts, and chinese character supported ?
[12:02] <micahcowan> (Stevo, check pm)
[12:02] <_lyte_> JoseStefan: thank you for that :)
[12:02] <micahcowan> fcomtois, it's easiest to use Administration -> Language Support for that.
[12:03] <fcomtois> micahcowan i'm not using gnome, it's a custom install
[12:03] <Stevo> micah> right on.  is that near NC?
[12:03] <theTruth> all of a sudden when I run firestarter, update manager, Synaptic etc, it doesnt ask me for a password anymore, they simply load! Anyone have any ideas why?
[12:04] <micahcowan> fcomtois, hm... you are using X, though, yes? What window manager/desktop environment?
[12:05] <Stevo> brb
[12:06] <fcomtois> icewm but i'd my trying to use fvwm-crystal
[12:06] <fcomtois> *like
[12:07] <micahcowan> fcomtois, you'll want language-pack-zh for sure
[12:08] <fcomtois> yeah, i'm living in Hong Kong for the moment
[12:08] <fcomtois> that's the name of the package ?
[12:08] <micahcowan> fcomtois, but you'd really benefit from something like gnome's SCIM, the input method manager, for typing Chinese. I'm not really sure how you could do it outside of a desktop environment (I /have/ set such up with Japanese, but it was rather specific to Japanese). You can use Emacs' builtin input methods to type Chinese, and copy/paste...
[12:09] <fcomtois> nah don't wanna type any chinese caracters, just be able to see them
[12:09] <fcomtois> i'm canadian, don't know anything about chinese
[12:10] <JoseStefan> Fair winds me mateys, i'm walking teh plank, not enough grog on tis here parts!
[12:10] <micahcowan> fcomtois, in which applications? Firefox, mainly?
[12:10] <ootput> cn == canada?
[12:10] <ootput> or ca?
[12:10] <fcomtois> yup
[12:10] <fcomtois> ca
[12:10] <fcomtois> cn is china
[12:10] <fcomtois> opera
[12:11] <fcomtois> my bad, opera is able to see them out of the box :-)
[12:12] <scrp> firefox > opera :o
[12:12] <fcomtois> micahcowan, I would use gnome, but my laptop is an old piece of crap
[12:12] <scrp> fcomtois: go fluxbox!
[12:12] <fcomtois> yeah scrp, but gnome use less memory
[12:12] <b0rdslide> hi
[12:12] <fcomtois> nah
[12:12] <fcomtois> i want something with panels
[12:12] <scrp> fcomtois: personally i like fluxbox 100% better than gnome/kde
[12:13] <fcomtois> well i don't :-p
[12:13] <b0rdslide> how can i set my keymap layout to use the s server settings, not the gnome settings? gnome has this dead-key thing that messes up my quote keys
[12:13] <scrp> fcomtois: panels?
[12:13] <fcomtois> I meant taskbar
[12:13] <b0rdslide> sorry, that was meant to say X server settings
[12:13] <scrp> fcomtois: you mean like alt+tab? :P
[12:13] <fcomtois> and have a desktop
[12:13] <botxj> http://pichostwizard.com/show.php?id=269569 <--- that is my ubuntu desktop, what should i do to improve it?
[12:14] <BrianG> nothing
[12:14] <botxj> nothing at all?
[12:14] <BrianG> theres nothing there
[12:15] <botxj> ya there is BrianG, just scroll down
[12:15] <fcomtois> how can easily setup xdm to choose between window managers ?
[12:15] <soniXX> question: does ubuntu have a legal team? and is there any way to contact them?
[12:15] <BrianG> its broken
[12:16] <botxj> well it works for me, your ISP's DNS servers must suck then
[12:16] <BrianG> yeah could be
[12:16] <micahcowan> soniXX, yes, I believe the mailing list is ubuntu-legal.
[12:16] <soniXX> thanks micahcowan
[12:16] <botxj> legal team?
[12:17] <fcomtois> ubuntu only follow the law of God :-p
[12:17] <BrianG> then again that pichost is pretty shoddy compaired to say imageshack.us
[12:17] <botxj> yeah nothing beats image shack
[12:17] <botxj> i'll use that next time
[12:17] <scrp> w000t people use xchat?
[12:17] <scrp> :o
[12:17] <scrp> pffmt
[12:17] <micahcowan> soniXX, then again, I could be wrong. Can't find it on the wiki... but I thought I'd heard of it...
[12:18] <Tealc> Anyone have any experience about One Time Passwords?
[12:18] <Tealc> in SSH
[12:18] <scrp> one time passwords ?
[12:19] <micahcowan> soniXX, I can't find much on it in Google, either, so I must be wrong.
[12:19] <soniXX> :/
[12:19] <micahcowan> Tealc, no, but I've been meaning to set them up at some point ^_^
[12:19] <Tealc> One Time SSH Password System
[12:19] <Tealc> you use it once and it never works again
[12:19] <micahcowan> Tealc, the software you want is opie (if you didn't know already)
[12:19] <Tealc> so you can use SSH from KeyLogged system
[12:19] <Tealc> micahcowan yea OPIE ;)
[12:19] <Tealc> how to set it up
[12:19] <mjr> Tealc, libpam-opie works fine with ssh
[12:20] <Tealc> there was no manuals :<
[12:20] <micahcowan> Tealc, none? Hm...
[12:20] <Tealc> mjr already got that
[12:20] <Tealc> didnt find any manuals with that
[12:20] <Tealc> i tryed to google: "SSH OPIE"
[12:20] <Tealc> i just got forums with problems
[12:20] <micahcowan> http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/security/opie.shtml may help
[12:22] <mjr> Tealc, eg. add the line "auth sufficient pam_opie.so" before the "auth required" line in /etc/pam.d/common-auth
[12:22] <mjr> or you can swap the lines around, but you need to also swap the "sufficient" and "required" keywords so sufficient is first
[12:22] <micahcowan> mjr, yes, but he'll also need to generate the passwords with opiepasswd
[12:22] <Tealc> where do i get opiepasswd?
[12:22] <Tealc> i dont have that in my system
[12:22] <mjr> or you can comment out the common-auth from /etc/pam.d/ssh and only add the opie stuff there
[12:23] <belekas> \o/
[12:23] <Tealc> i have program called opiekey
[12:23] <Shoo-Shu> back
[12:23] <Tealc> maybe its the same
[12:23] <belekas> yay i restored the boot partition \o/
[12:23] <belekas> thank you all for hints!!!
[12:23] <micahcowan> mjr I wouldn't advise that... it is possible to exhaust your passwords... not to mention he should make sure he got things working first...
[12:23] <ugan> hi guys...i tried using the cdto boot ubuntu but it cant access my partitions on ntfs, it says it has no access, Should iinstall ubuntu right away to access the file system?
[12:24] <micahcowan> Tealc, did you install opie-client or opie-server? You need opie-server on the sshd-side.
[12:24] <Tealc> yes
[12:24] <Tealc> both are installed
[12:24] <micahcowan> make sure you have libpam-opie as well...
[12:24] <Tealc> ok :>
[12:25] <Tealc> micahcowan ok now i have it ^^
[12:25] <ugan> :D
[12:25] <scrp> lol its funny to run Windows in Vmware
[12:25] <scrp> Windows in a linux shell, protected by Linus Torvalds himself
[12:25] <micahcowan> Tealc, yes, opiekey looks like the opiepasswd program mentioned in the link I gave.
[12:25] <Tealc> oh cool i get to calculate a Response
[12:26] <Tealc> for that serial thingy
[12:26] <ugan> hi guys...i tried using the cdto boot ubuntu but it cant access my partitions on ntfs, it says it has no access, Should iinstall ubuntu right away to access the file system?
[12:26] <forevertheuni> hi..I'm having a problem...I do apt-get update and then upgrade and in the last week I don't get any updates...is that normal?(I have universe and multiverse)
[12:26] <fatu> hi, I guess it is if you're using a stable version
[12:27] <Tealc> oh noes i dont get it :<
[12:27] <fatu> does the command return any error?
[12:27] <micahcowan> forevertheuni, hm... I don't think I've had dapper updates for roughly a week, either. Dapper has already been released, so only security fixes (and upgrades and backports, if you have the repositories) are ever updated
[12:27] <micahcowan> Tealc, don't get what
[12:27] <Tealc> help says i have to use Calculator to calculate a Response
[12:27] <Stevo> i haven't seen any system updates in a bit
[12:27] <ugan> does anyone knows any answers to my question?
[12:27] <Tealc> when i run opiepasswd
[12:28] <Tealc> it asks for Response
[12:28] <Tealc> and gives me some code
[12:28] <fatu> guys, may I ask you another thing
[12:28] <Tealc> but i dont see how you can calculate anything from that :I
[12:28] <Tealc> Use a calculator with the challenge mentionned by opiepasswd
[12:28] <fatu> I installed dapper on an external USB disk (using the same PC for work and home)
[12:28] <micahcowan> Tealc, you must use opiekey to produce the Response
[12:29] <fatu> is is possible to have it working transparently under VMWare in windows too? I know how to configure the machine, but the problem is: virtual HW is different from real one
[12:29] <ugan> why cant i see my ntfs partitions?
[12:30] <SteveFTW> hey you guys!!!?!?!! how do i add songs to my ipod through rythmbox?
[12:30] <micahcowan> Tealc, type opiekey 499 ub8978
[12:30] <ootput> ugan: cfdisk /dev/hd<a,b,c, etc.)
[12:30] <Tealc> oh yes
[12:30] <Tealc> cool
[12:30] <micahcowan> where ub8978 will be... something else on your ssytem, I think...
[12:31] <ugan> ootput, i think the partition is mounted,
[12:31] <micahcowan> Don'
[12:31] <Tealc> micahcowan i got a cool sentence :D
[12:31] <SteveFTW> hey you guys!!!?!?!! how do i add songs to my ipod through rythmbox?
[12:31] <micahcowan> t forget your secret passphrase, or you won't be able to generate Responses anymore.
[12:31] <ugan> ootput, it said something about it cant access it
[12:31] <ootput> ugan: at boot? use dmesg | less to look for it
[12:31] <micahcowan> Tealc, once you've run opiepasswd and it accepts your Response, run it again, and the 499 should become 498.
[12:31] <Tealc> coool!
[12:32] <ugan> ootput, i used the cd i got from the mail, run the os using the cd, without installing it,
[12:32] <micahcowan> You'd do well to generate the next several passwords with opiekey, write or print them out and keep them in a very secure place (wallet). Then you can log in up to that many times before you have to generate more responses.
[12:32] <ootput> SteveFTW: check out: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[12:33] <Tealc> micahcowan so i can use that thing as password?
[12:33] <ugan> ootput, is it normal for it not to have access to the ntfs partitions i have? so should i install it right away on the disk?
[12:33] <Tealc> it gave me like: "CITY FUSE SOON...."
[12:33] <ootput> ugan: no, it's not typically normal. My ntfs partitions were visible, and readable from the livecd
[12:33] <scrp> ugan: by default you dont have write permission to NTFS
[12:33] <micahcowan> Tealc, by "that thing" you mean the five words? Yes. But you have to set up PAM as mjr indicated.
[12:34] <Tealc> micahcowan oh ok
 Tealc, eg. add the line "auth sufficient pam_opie.so" before the "auth required" line in /etc/pam.d/common-auth
[12:34] <ootput> ugan: the ntfs partitions should be mounted with global-read access
[12:34] <micahcowan> (oh, it's six words...)
[12:35] <ugan> ootput, this is weird hehehe, so i should run windows, and change some settings on the ntfs file system?
[12:35] <Tealc> micahcowan if i want more of those
[12:35] <Tealc> can i use same passphere?
[12:35] <ootput> ugan: i don't think it's necessary
[12:35] <Tealc> to produce more random words
[12:35] <AZzKikR> what other remote desktop daemons and such exist?
[12:35] <gneral_> hi
[12:35] <ootput> ugan: you'll need to figure out which errors were presented to you at boot
[12:35] <Kyynara> how can I check if some program is using my soundcard?
[12:36] <micahcowan> Tealc, yes. If it starts at 499, the next sequence numbers will decrement (498, 497, 496)
[12:36] <Tealc> im trying to figure out howto make more of them
[12:36] <Tealc> i only managed to change the 499 :D
[12:37] <ugan> ootput...ok, ill try again, i didnt notice any errors, anyways, but no harm in trying again, another thing, how about a firewall program?
[12:37] <Tealc> micahcowan opieinfo command produces an error
[12:38] <ugan> thanks...later guys
[12:38] <ootput> ugan: you'll be using iptables frontend to the linux kernel's netfilter component. On top of iptables (to make things easier on you,) there are gui frontends as well. Personally, i create my own iptables rules.
[12:38] <micahcowan> Tealc, first run opiepasswd. While it waits for your response, use opiekey to generate it in another terminal
[12:39] <Tealc> micahcowan i can also ctrl+z
[12:39] <micahcowan> Tealc, yes.
[12:39] <Tealc> i wanna generate atleast 20 keys :>
[12:40] <micahcowan> Once it has accepted a response, the next time it will ask for 498 <id>. And after that, 497 <id>.
[12:40] <Tealc> oh i get it
[12:40] <Tealc> then i print them to my wallet
[12:40] <micahcowan> Instead of running opiekey multiple times, you can do "opiekey -n <# times> 498 <id>
[12:40] <Tealc> that helps
[12:41] <Tealc> micahcowan but why it is 5 words
[12:41] <micahcowan> Tealc, reuse the 499 number, too, and make sure it's the same as it was before (otherwise, you typed your passphrase differently)
[12:41] <Tealc> wouldnt 3 be enough :P
[12:41] <micahcowan> Tealc, six words. And no.
[12:41] <Tealc> :<
[12:41] <earthian> hello
[12:41] <earthian> at last i booted to my system :0
[12:41] <earthian> :)
[12:41] <earthian> belekas* :x
[12:41] <earthian> so
[12:42] <micahcowan> They represent a specific number. It's just usually easier to see them as words. If you add -x, it will show you the hexadecimal version isntead of words.
[12:42] <earthian> now i see that my GFX drivers are not working :(
[12:42] <micahcowan> Tealc,  ^^^
[12:42] <Tealc> micahcowan so i can use them in number forms?
[12:42] <Tealc> so it wont be so horrible to type them
[12:42] <earthian> i have radeon x859xt and X uses some crap called "mesa"
[12:42] <earthian> what to do?
[12:42] <earthian> reinstall?
[12:42] <earthian> !ati
[12:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <micahcowan> Tealc, People usually find the word forms easier to type. They were also intended to avoid problems of numbers that look like letters...
[12:43] <Tealc> oh ok
[12:43] <Tealc> this is so cool!
[12:43] <AZzKikR> earthian, don't you mean vesa?
[12:43] <Tealc> im gonna have a cool password paper in my wallet!
[12:44] <vk2000> Can anyone help me? I nned to install a program in ubuntu and don't know how
[12:44] <micahcowan> Tealc, now I just need to do this for myself on my FreeBSD server one of these days... :)
[12:44] <earthian> i want my fglrx back
[12:44] <Tealc> very very cool! :>
[12:44] <fcomtois> is there any easy way to change window managers via xdm ?
[12:44] <Tealc> micahcowan now im again more 1337:er
[12:45] <vk2000> Can anyone help me? I need to install a program in ubuntu and don't know how
[12:45] <micahcowan> Tealc, always be sure never to generate passwords remotely, since obviously this defeats the purpose (key-loggers...). So be sure to have enough passwords to fit your needs. Overshoot, if necessary: you can always reset it to a different id/passphrase, with opiepasswd -c.
[12:45] <jrib> vk2000: what program?
[12:46] <vk2000> it's called madwifi
[12:46] <Tealc> micahcowan now i can ssh from school :>
[12:46] <vk2000> it's for the d-link pci wi-fi
[12:46] <finalbeta> launchpad is down?
[12:46] <jrib> !madwifi > vk2000
[12:47] <micahcowan> Tealc, be aware that using OTP isn't a perfect solution: you are still susceptable to sophisticated attacks, such as malicious ssh clients, or software that would take advantage of your session once your in. But that's mostly theoretical, no one I've heard of is actually doing that for little folks like you and I. :-)
[12:48] <micahcowan> (for instance, software that would /send/ keystrokes through your open ssh client, possibly masking it's malignance)
[12:48] <vk2000> actually I need to know how to install a program in ubuntu
[12:49] <vk2000> I already know how to establish wi-fi connection in windows
[12:49] <micahcowan> vk2000, System -> Administration -> Synaptic, or on command-line you can use apt-get (with sudo)
[12:49] <micahcowan> synaptic is used to install software.
[12:49] <finalbeta> launchpad is down?
[12:49] <Tealc> micahcowan but i haveto manually preserve my opiekey thingy becose opieinfo does not work
[12:50] <Tealc> :P
[12:50] <vk2000> I'm there now what?
[12:50] <jrib> vk2000: check your private messages from ubotu
[12:50] <micahcowan> Tealc, what's to preserve? It only tells you what the next sequence number and current id-key is.
[12:50] <vk2000> the file is on the dektop
[12:50] <vk2000> how do I install it
[12:51] <vk2000> it's in the tar.bz2 format
[12:51] <maning> hello! I need help, I made some recent kernel updates.  After these, it then advised me to restart the PC.  Then a power outage occurred thus unable to finish the restart.  After these my unit does not boot with GDM and asks for runlevel.  I tried 2-5 but then it says no processes at this run level.  I can now only boot in as root in the recovery mode.  It seems my /etc/inittab is messed up because running more /etc/inittab it shows no text.  How can I revert b
[12:51] <micahcowan> Tealc: sudo opieinfo <username>
[12:51] <micahcowan> vk2000, you should avoid installing things from tarfiles if there are .deb packages available...
[12:52] <micahcowan> (though, maybe there aren't).
[12:52] <micahcowan> !compile
[12:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:53] <micahcowan> vk2000, the above may help.
[12:54] <vk2000> where do I issue command lines? in terminal?
[12:54] <scrp> aye
[12:54] <micahcowan> Tealc, are you running Dapper?
[12:54] <Tealc> micahcowan sure
[12:54] <micahcowan> what version of opie is it?
[12:55] <micahcowan> (dpkg -l opie-client)
[12:55] <fourat> is there anyway to restrict lan users to use DHCP mode only and no static IP ?
[12:55] <micahcowan> I don't think opieinfo ought to require sudo; opiekey and opiepasswd are suid, so I think I'll file a bug.
[12:56] <elmargol> fourat: no
[12:56] <Tealc> omg why i cannot pipe: sort -r PASSKEYS > PASSKEYSR
[12:56] <Tealc> :<
[12:56] <micahcowan> Tealc, what's going wrong with it?
[12:57] <Tealc> it wont write anything to the file :<
[12:57] <Tealc> i wanna reverse the order
[12:57] <Tealc> from biggest to lowest
[12:57] <micahcowan> Tealc, are you sure that PASSKEYS has contents?
[12:57] <micahcowan> And, what's the output of dpkg -l opie-client?
[12:57] <Tealc> yes
[12:57] <Tealc> the system works ;)
[12:57] <Tealc> i just need to print them
[12:57] <jrib> Tealc: what directory are you in?
[12:58] <micahcowan> Tealc, have you actually used it to authenticate ssh?
[12:58] <Tealc> my home
[12:58] <Tealc> micahcowan yes
[12:58] <Tealc> and it work
[12:58] <micahcowan> cool :)
[12:58] <Tealc> yea it is
[12:58] <vk2000> Guys, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManagerMadWifi but is says "make: command not found"
[12:58] <Tealc> i just commented out the normal auth
[12:58] <micahcowan> Tealc, does sort -r PASSKEYS | head work as expected?
[12:58] <ndlovu> I've got a samba server that seems to place a 2GB limit on file sizes. Is this a common issue or something weird in my setup?
[12:59] <Tealc> micahcowan sort -r is supposed to reverse sort
[12:59] <micahcowan> Tealc, okay: then be sure to use a new passphrase (opiepasswd -c) before you run out off responses :)
[12:59] <Tealc> ;O
[12:59] <micahcowan> Tealc, yes. What does "sort -r PASSKEYS | head" give you?
[12:59] <nifan> b'dia
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > jack_sparrow
[12:59] <Tealc> micahcowan <
[12:59] <jrib> vk2000: that site suggests that some version of madwifi is included with dapper.  Did those not work for you?
[12:59] <Tealc> <
[12:59] <Tealc> >
[12:59] <Tealc> D:D
[01:00] <Tealc> it gives me a cool mark
[01:00] <micahcowan> Tealc, that's... very strange.
[01:00] <jrib> !compile > vk2000
[01:00] <Tealc> yes it is
[01:00] <ganja_> does anyone her euses dc++ ?
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> (06:59:38) superkirbyartist: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> (06:59:47) superkirbyartist: HELP ME PLEASE!
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> (07:00:06) superkirbyartist: I LOST: FIREFOX, THUNDERBIRD AND ADD/REMOVE SOFTWARE :'(
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> ndlovu: Not that this applies but... Files that are bigger than 2GB (a little less actually) are not supported by ISO9660
[01:01] <Tealc> cat PASSKEYS > sort -r > PASSKEYSR
[01:01] <Tealc> :D
[01:01] <superkirbyartist> HELP PLEASE!
[01:01] <jrib> !caps > superkirbyartist
[01:01] <micahcowan> Tealc, no... that'll create a file named sort, if it does anything.
[01:01] <vk2000> jrib: I don't understand
[01:01] <micahcowan> Tealc, cat PASSKEYS | sort -r > PASSKEYSR
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix or EasyUbuntu, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> !caps >jrib
[01:02] <ndlovu> Jack_Sparrow, what are the implications of not being ISO9660 supported?
[01:02] <Seveas> superkirbyartist: behave
[01:02] <micahcowan> superkirbyartist, check your private messages from Ubugtu.
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> Yo guy I'm serious no firefox no thunderbird no add/remove.
[01:02] <Seveas> *ubotu
[01:02] <micahcowan> jrib was instructing you to not use CAPS LETTERS the way you were.
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: Dont correct the ops...
[01:03] <Tealc> KEWL
[01:03] <micahcowan> Seveas, er, right. :)
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> This is serious!
[01:03] <Tealc> micahcowan i wonder why i have to use cat
[01:03] <Seveas> Tealc: you don't
[01:03] <micahcowan> Tealc, what, it works now?
[01:03] <Tealc> micahcowan yea that worked
[01:03] <Seveas> sort -r < PASSKEYS > PASSKEYSR
[01:03] <jrib> vk2000: madwifi is included in linux-restricted-modules in dapper according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> I have no internet or email!
[01:03] <Tealc> Seveas why? :<
[01:04] <scrp> superkirbyartist: w00t?
[01:04] <Seveas> Tealc: if you use the command I just gave you don't need cat :)
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ndlovu: what filesystem has the shared folder?
[01:04] <Seveas> car won't hurt though ;)
[01:04] <Seveas> cat*
[01:04] <Tealc> kewl
[01:04] <superkirbyartist> Who needs madwifi it's already included in linux.
[01:04] <superkirbyartist> NO FIREFOX NO THUNDERBIRD.
[01:04] <Tealc> Seveas what was the thing called that < made go somewhere:  stdoutput?
[01:04] <Tealc> some stoutput
[01:05] <Tealc> standart output?
[01:05] <scrp> how does wireless work in linux? how would i configure my wireless, im not sure ubuntu did since i had my wireless button set to "off"
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> Awww.... :'(
[01:05] <micahcowan> Tealc, not quite...
[01:05] <forevertheuni> oh the madwifi in ubuntu is the old code or madwifi-ng?
[01:05] <scrp> superkirbyartist: g0tpwned.com
[01:05] <Tealc> i dont remember anymore
[01:05] <ndlovu> Jack_Sparrow, it's a linux box (ext3) sharing files with samba
[01:05] <Tealc> what were those things called
[01:05] <micahcowan> It redirects standard input /from/ a file, just as > redirects a programs standard output /to/ a file.
[01:05] <Seveas> forevertheuni: in dapper both, in edgy madwifi-ng
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> It won't help!  No net browser!  And don't give me gay sites!
[01:05] <micahcowan> Use | to redirect from/to programs.
[01:05] <AZzKikR> Tealc, stdout?
[01:05] <Tealc> yes!
[01:06] <Tealc> stdout stdin
[01:06] <forevertheuni> Seveas, :/ how can I choose each one?because the old code doesn't support dynamic turbo
[01:06] <Tealc> whats the third
[01:06] <AZzKikR> stderr
[01:06] <Tealc> error?
[01:06] <AZzKikR> correctomundo
[01:06] <Tealc> yay
[01:06] <micahcowan> Tealc, if you really can get 'sort -r < PASSKEYS > PASSKEYSR' to work but not 'sort -r PASSKEYS > PASSKEYSR' (try one more time), please file a bug against your version of coreutils.
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix or EasyUbuntu, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[01:06] <micahcowan> Tealc, stderr is:    2>
[01:06] <superkirbyartist> Did once but stopped it in between.
[01:06] <superkirbyartist> I ran language install then it happended.
[01:07] <Tealc> micahcowan so that can pipe the errors to some place
[01:07] <Tealc> like to a file
[01:07] <micahcowan> Tealc, you can learn more about redirection and more sophisticated things in the bash manpage
[01:07] <rootpt> Seveas; i have a problem with my console, see this link please if u can and help me, i don't have rush.. http://cyberia.tuxsp.org/~ecra/CapturaEcra.png
[01:07] <Seveas> forevertheuni: a bit of magic in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common and a PCI map somwhere
[01:07] <Tealc> micahcowan thats ok i have a CD
[01:07] <Seveas> superkirbyartist: are you on edgy?
[01:07] <Tealc> it has video about BASH usage
[01:07] <superkirbyartist> Draper.
[01:07] <micahcowan> Tealc, to a file, yes. You can't pipe stderr to a command, you'd have to redirect it to stdout first. :/
[01:07] <micahcowan> Tealc, what's that CD?
[01:07] <Tealc> err lemme look
[01:07] <superkirbyartist> I don't think there is Edgy upgrade yet...
[01:07] <Seveas> superkirbyartist: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop firefox thunderbird
[01:08] <Tealc> micahcowan LinuxCBT.Bash.Shell.Scripting
[01:08] <Tealc> very nice
[01:08] <micahcowan> Tealc, where did you find it? I'd like to check it out.
[01:08] <Tealc> you should check it out
[01:08] <Tealc> its pretty nice stuff!
[01:09] <superkirbyartist> E: Package thunderbird has no install candidate.
[01:09] <scrp> good, thunderbird isnt as good as firefox anyway
[01:09] <Tealc> micahcowan i put the page on ur private
[01:09] <Tealc> dont wanna advertise
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> scrp ?
[01:09] <Tealc> its prolly illegal to advertise here :I
[01:10] <scrp> ?
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> scrp: thunderbird is the mail program from the same people that make firefox?
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> How do you send CTCPs?
[01:11] <scrp> Jack_Sparrow: ooh
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> scrp: np, they just do not perform the same function..
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> Help please.
[01:11] <micahcowan> Tealc, I didn't receive your PM. Seveas, have you had PM issues with Edgy's XChat?
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: Please post your sources.list to the pastebin...
[01:11] <micahcowan> superkirbyartist, that depends on your client.
[01:12] <forevertheuni> Seveas, is that in the help pages of ubuntu?
[01:12] <superkirbyartist> Pastebin?  My client is Gaim.
[01:12] <micahcowan> Tealc, however, I did find it via bittorrent. And now, I don't think it's illegal to advertise such here, provided the software in question is itself legal (and topical here)
[01:12] <Tealc> micahcowan id have to register
[01:12] <superkirbyartist> Location of "Sources.list"?
[01:12] <micahcowan> Tealc, ah. I see.
[01:13] <Tealc> micahcowan in that case http://www.exbits.com
[01:13] <scrp> micahcowan: besides, Ubuntu is all about sharing :)
[01:13] <Tealc> i dont take responsibility if someone brakes copy right laws
[01:13] <NET||abuse> having trouble getting kopete to run in gnome.. what's the beef, i get the following error message "kopete: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication."
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup   to make a backup
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <Tealc> opie is still a pain in the ass in LAN
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[01:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:13] <Tealc> you have to write those keys while using ur own home computer :(
[01:14] <Tealc> unless theres a way to disable SSH password from 192.168.0.*
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: You need to listen
[01:16] <superkirbyartist> Jack sparrow you have a file transfer line 1
[01:16] <superkirbyartist> (I can't use pastebin)
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: DO NOT do that
[01:16] <micahcowan> Tealc, you could reenable the normal ssh password, and use the password when you're on lan, and the OTPs when outside.
[01:16] <Tealc> micahcowan how is that done?
[01:17] <Tealc> you have to write then both?
[01:17] <Tealc> or can u just pick one method?
[01:17] <micahcowan> Tealc, you could also set up key-based authentication between your home computer and the ssh server
[01:17] <superkirbyartist> I would like to send CTCP
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: DO NOT PM me without asking
[01:17] <superkirbyartist> Well read the file it's like 2.51KB it's fast on dialup too.
[01:17] <micahcowan> Tealc, if you uncomment the original line from the PAM config, then it'll try the first method, and then if that fails, it will try the second method. You could hit enter for the first one to fall back on the second.
[01:18] <Tealc> micahcowan oh well ok :)
[01:18] <superkirbyartist> Anyways... most of my sources say breezy, do I make them say draper instead?
[01:18] <Tealc> micahcowan i was thinking if .trusted thing is cool :O
[01:18] <elkbuntu> dapper
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> superkirbyartist: Automatix is the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[01:19] <Tealc> so if SSH request comes from LAN it just approves it
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[01:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:19] <superkirbyartist> What is automatix?
[01:19] <elkbuntu> superkirbyartist, dapper not draper
[01:19] <Zakalwe_> automatix is a piece of crap hack. Forget about it
[01:19] <elkbuntu> superkirbyartist, its a script that can be like playing russian roulette with your machine
[01:19] <superkirbyartist> Did not send it.
[01:20] <superkirbyartist> Are you saying CTCP is bad?
[01:20] <micahcowan> Tealc, that's probably possible, but I don't know how to set it up.
[01:20] <scrp> superkirbyartist: CTCP is a form of hack to gain root on your linux box
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Zakalwe_: HE said he already ran it and it crashed on him
[01:20] <Zakalwe_> Ouch
[01:20] <superkirbyartist> ALRIGHT IT WORKS WHO DA MAN YA DA MAN!
[01:21] <superkirbyartist> THANK YOU A LOT!
[01:21] <micahcowan> superkirbyartist, remember why you got kicked....
[01:21] <CromagDK> !shout
[01:21] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:21] <superkirbyartist> Well I am happy.
[01:21] <tortoise_> I've got a mysterious perl process on my system, anyone know how I can track down what's causing it?
[01:21] <superkirbyartist> Too bad stupid bot!
[01:21] <Zakalwe_> The guy who wrote that should be shot. He's anarrogant little shit who couldn't code his way out of a paper bag
[01:21] <micahcowan> tortoise_, what's the script's name?
[01:21] <superkirbyartist> Now to install thunderbird...
[01:22] <scrp> tortoise_: google the process name
[01:22] <tortoise_> micahcowen: How do I find out, the process is just listed as perl
[01:22] <micahcowan> tortoise_, how are you listing processes?
[01:22] <brendonjt> superkirbyartist, :sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[01:22] <tortoise_> micahcowen: ps -A
[01:22] <NET||abuse> i just got myself a western digital passport, 120GB drive, and i'm a little supprisd by it, have it plugged in and it's jjust spinning away,, feels like full speed
[01:22] <superkirbyartist> I do them from Sympatic.
[01:22] <Zakalwe_> superkirbyartist : In channel please : No I meant the guy who hacked together Automatix.
[01:22] <NET||abuse> doesn't seem to want to stop.
[01:23] <superkirbyartist> Me?
[01:23] <DBO> Zakalwe_, as much as I hate tix, can I ask you just dont talk about it at all, its a touchy subject =)
[01:23] <NET||abuse> how might i get the drive to stop spinning so fast
[01:23] <superkirbyartist> ??? (Confused)
[01:23] <Zakalwe_> DBO,  gotcha.
[01:23] <micahcowan> tortoise_, try "ps aux" (no -)
[01:23] <scrp> ulfar@guru:/etc/init.d$ ps -A | wc -l
[01:23] <scrp> 114
[01:23] <superkirbyartist> How to add add-remove on menu?
[01:23] <scrp> so many processes
[01:23] <scrp> superkirbyartist: try right clicking
[01:24] <CromagDK> anyone using aMSN and webcam and couldnt config it cause "no device installed" but the webcam works although you cant configure it ? :)
[01:24] <tortoise_> hmmm SystemToolsBackends.pl
[01:24] <tortoise_> micahcowen: thanks
[01:24] <superkirbyartist> I would like to add the final thing I lost: "Add/Remove applications".
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> CromagDK: have you been through the webcam help page?
[01:25] <micahcowan> tortoise_, that process is fine: keep it running
[01:25] <CromagDK> Jack_Sparrow: on sf.net ?
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[01:25] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:25] <CromagDK> it works
[01:25] <tortoise_> micahcowen: It's quite cpu intensive 3-4%!
[01:26] <zaggynl> Anyone familiar with running Utorrent under linux? I keep getting the error "Too many open files" with certain torrents :(
[01:26] <micahcowan> tortoise_, really? not on my system.
[01:27] <micahcowan> tortoise_, this script is used by the GNOME system tools: that's really all I know about it.
[01:27] <LazyAngel> annyone knows how to glue two pdf documents to one?
[01:27] <bionoid> zaggynl: You're running it under wine?
[01:27] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> MetaMorfoziS: Goodmorning and welcome
[01:28] <zaggynl> bionoid, yeah
[01:28] <jrib> LazyAngel: pdftk, I can't remember the syntax though
[01:28] <kendals> How can I chat to MSN users with audio? :(
[01:29] <CarinArr> lazyangel, http://www.googobits.com/articles/p0-1627-combining-pdfs-in-linux.html
[01:29] <CarinArr> google is your friend
[01:29] <CromagDK> Jack_Sparrow: the last page doesnt work.
[01:29] <CromagDK> not sure who to tell
[01:29] <bionoid> zaggynl: Ok, wouldn't know cause none of my software works correctly under wine. You cuold try parallels(.com), that will work for sure. There might be some wine option to set the max number of open files, though,. or you could use a linux torrent client, which is probably your best option..
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> CromagDK: the second link is no good..?
[01:30] <CromagDK> correct
[01:30] <CromagDK> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[01:30] <superkirbyartist> YES!  I HAVE EVERYTHING LIKE BEFORE!  THANKS GUYS!
[01:30] <daurn> hi all
[01:30] <daurn> is there some way you can send a msg to a windows computer?
[01:30] <daurn> (ala, net send)
[01:30] <brendonjt> superkirbyartist, : turn ya caps off stop shouting
[01:30] <zaggynl> bionoid, Thanks for the info :)
[01:31] <superkirbyartist> I am leaving anyways!
[01:31] <micahcowan> superkirbyartist, you could show your gratitude by not ignoring our requests to stop shouting...
[01:31] <micahcowan> Drats, too slow.
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> brendonjt: HE has already been licked once and wared again after that
[01:31] <CromagDK> Jack_Sparrow: it works..
[01:31] <CromagDK> donno what happend
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ha
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> CromagDK: like magic eh..
[01:31] <brendonjt> Jack_Sparrow, :hows it going
[01:32] <CromagDK> Jack_Sparrow: remember its talk like a pirate day.
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Arghhhh   Not bad thanks,
[01:32] <NET||abuse> Can anyone shed any light on this for me, trying to run kopete in gnome, i get this every time "kopete: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication."
[01:32] <zaggynl> Why does Linux come with a 'open files limit' never had this issue in wintendo xp
[01:32] <brendonjt> CromagDK, :he might have loast the black perl again lol hehe
[01:32] <NET||abuse> don't know how this can be solved.
[01:33] <CromagDK> hah :D
[01:33] <micahcowan> zaggynl, are you hitting this open files limit?
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> NET||abuse: Not all kde apps will run in gnome...
[01:33] <zaggynl> micahcowan, yeah
[01:33] <zaggynl> some torrent with an incredible large amount of files
[01:33] <NET||abuse> Jack_Sparrow: kopete surely does, i have it running in gnome on the desktop machine beside me, now this is the same dapper release as the desktop, only on my laptop
[01:33] <zaggynl> only qtorrent works, but the gui SUCKS, and I really love utorrent :>
[01:33] <micahcowan> How large is incredibly large?
[01:34] <zaggynl> uh lemme check
[01:34] <zaggynl> micahcowan, 9936 items, totalling 3.2 GB
[01:34] <bionoid> NET||abuse: try typing "xhost +local" in a terminal window, that _might_ do the trick..
[01:35] <micahcowan> zaggynl, By default, the user limit for open files seems to be 1024... wow, 9936 /is/ a lot.
[01:35] <zaggynl> myeah :< im going to pack it and reseed
[01:35] <NET||abuse> bionoid: no joy
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> NET||abuse: Interesting... I have never used it.  Noted that you do have it working on one machine.
[01:35] <micahcowan> zaggynl, oh, you're seeding? That's convenient, then.
[01:36] <NET||abuse> Jack_Sparrow: funny thing is i never had to do anyting unusual to get it working in that instance
[01:36] <zaggynl> micahcowan, xD
[01:36] <micahcowan> Anyone know where the ulimits get set?
[01:36] <NET||abuse> Jack_Sparrow: and besides, then there's an issue with teh dependancies if kopete doesn't run when installed without kde
[01:36] <zaggynl> Still don't understand why qtorrent works fine and any other torrent solution craps up
[01:37] <ootput> zaggynl: even rtorrent?
[01:38] <ziel> hello
[01:38] <ziel> i got a little problem with connectin to phone via bluetooth
[01:38] <zaggynl> ootput, haven't tried that yet, but I'm having trouble getting over the ugly ncurse gui
[01:38] <ziel> well, i am trying do to with this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740&highlight=bluetooth
[01:39] <ziel> but this is for usb bluetooth and i have a built-in one in laptop
[01:39] <kendals> How can I chat to MSN users with audio? :(
[01:39] <ziel> and im stuck at: - Create the new device of the Dongle. We create a virtual bind from the Usb to the Serial Device
[01:40] <surface> kendals:  still the same question since yesterday hahah
[01:40] <kendals> yep :'(
[01:40] <kendals> tried EVERY program there is.
[01:40] <brendonjt> kendals, :i would be interested aswell
[01:40] <kendals> i can't believe there isn't more demand for it!
[01:40] <surface> kendals:  seems it is open source, get gaim and modify
[01:40] <kendals> sounds simple, surface!
[01:40] <kendals> lol
[01:41] <surface> kendals:  those ppl use skype.
[01:41] <LazyAngel> jrib, CarinArr: thanks
[01:41] <jrib> micahcowan: maybe /etc/security/limits.conf and 1024 is set as default?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kendals: as soon as someone gets it working MS will make a minor change to again, try to lock out linux users.
[01:41] <micahcowan> jrib, very nice, thanks for that.
[01:41] <califfo> Can u hep me? I got this error and don't know how to solve it: Error: Failed to create ./qtdirs. Make sure you have a working Qt v4 qmake on
[01:41] <califfo> your PATH or use the -q argument to explicitly specify a working Qt v4 qmake.
[01:42] <kendals> surface: skype is still dodgy though :'(
[01:42] <kendals> and no Gtalk audio, etc...
[01:42] <kendals> it's so sa.d.
[01:42] <kendals> we're really lagging in IM audio...
[01:42] <micahcowan> jrib, Aha! Apparently, PAM uses that.
[01:42] <kendals> no shortage of VOIP programs nobody uses....lol.
[01:42] <surface> kendals:  gnome-meeting? lol
[01:42] <SillyZ> good morning
[01:42] <kendals> And Tapioca doesn't work properly for me.
[01:43] <bionoid> kendals: we have Asterisk though ;p
[01:43] <kendals> keeps dropping the audio etc.
[01:43] <kendals> lol
[01:43] <kendals> i don't even know what asterisk is, but i keep hearing about it!
[01:43] <surface> kendals:  use wine than
[01:43] <kendals> tried that :(
[01:43] <surface> asterisk configuration is nightmare
[01:43] <kendals> tried msn and trillian and gtalk in wine latest.
[01:43] <kendals> no luck.
[01:44] <surface> kendals asterisk is to setup the entire voip system.
[01:44] <brendonjt> kendals, :it would be good if amsn  had voice as it has webcam support
[01:44] <bionoid> surface: hmh it's not more of a nightmare than sendmail or postfix.. I had a fully working pbx bridging voip/pots within one week of my first encounter with asterisk. That's not too bad.
[01:45] <daurn> ok
[01:45] <GoOdcm> any one use ekiga
[01:45] <daurn> i'm trying to install an app
[01:45] <daurn> but i get this error:
[01:45] <surface> bionoid:  oh really,i am glad to hear that
[01:45] <daurn> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0 gthread-2.0) were not met:
[01:45] <daurn> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[01:46] <ootput> zaggynl: the thing i love about curses-apps is the fact that I can run them in screen, and detach the screen session
[01:46] <ootput> zaggynl: it's particularly useful for big downloads
[01:46] <surface> daurn apt-cache pkgnames gtk
[01:46] <zaggynl> ootput, hmm might try it :)
[01:46] <bionoid> surface: I will, however, agree that it's intimidating at first view, but reading "the book" clarified most of the initial "huh?"s :)
[01:46] <ben_underscore> hello everyone.
[01:47] <brendonjt> ben_underscore, :hi ya
[01:47] <surface> bionoid:  i see, u grap a book.
[01:47] <ben_underscore> does anyone know something about bluetooth mouses under dapper? i've just installed dapper on a brand new hp dv2000 and it has a wireless bluetooth mouse
[01:47] <ben_underscore> ubuntu works a treat, but the mouse isn't registering yet
[01:47] <bionoid> surface: there's a free oreilly book on Asterisk titled the future of telephony
[01:48] <lesshaste>  how do I manually remove a folder from thunderbird? I seem to have a mail folder with no actual mail file associated with it
[01:48] <surface> bionoid:  great, thanks for the tips. u setting up for ur office?
[01:48] <lesshaste>  so when I try to delete it it says it can't file the file to delete
[01:48] <daurn> surface: now what
[01:49] <bionoid> surface: Yup, that is, with my former employer, I left the country by now ;-)
[01:49] <surface> daurn:  did u get any list of result?
[01:49] <Skrot> Hi. I'm running a dual view in clone mode. How can I get video on both screens? Now it only shows on my built in LCD. I'm using a ATI card with fglrx-drivers
[01:49] <daurn> about 70 results
[01:50] <surface> daurn:  wow that is too much,      try other keyword gtk+
[01:50] <daurn> nothing
[01:50] <surface> daurn try to download the one u think that u needed...
[01:51] <daurn> ?
[01:51] <surface> daurn or print me some lines, may try libgtk
[01:51] <kendals> sorry back.
[01:51] <kendals> yeah, i agree brendont- be great if amsn had audio, since it has webcam already
[01:51] <surface> daurn:  if u think that is the gtk u wanna download, u can do this apt-get install gtk....
[01:51] <daurn> tried that
[01:51] <daurn> package doesn't rxist
[01:52] <daurn> btw, how do i find out my (local) ip?
[01:52] <surface> daurn:   gthread         <--------- this installed too?
[01:52] <raf_> please hell
[01:52] <raf_> help
[01:52] <raf_> i have bead secots
[01:52] <surface> daurn:  ifconfig
[01:53] <califfo> Error: Failed to create ./qtdirs. Make sure you have a working Qt v4 qmake on your PATH or use the -q argument to explicitly specify a working Qt v4 qmake. ... what can I do to solve this error?
[01:53] <raf_> on disk
[01:53] <raf_> dont know what to do
[01:53] <raf_> :(
[01:53] <raf_> sectors
[01:53] <daurn> E: Couldn't find package gthread
[01:53] <raf_> how do i fix it
[01:53] <GoOdcm> kendals do u use ekiga
[01:53] <raf_> i try to log on..says "operating system not found" half the time..the other time
[01:53] <raf_> i get bad sectors mesage
[01:53] <raf_> what can i do
[01:54] <kendals> Go0dcm: tried ekiga, but nobody else uses it...
[01:54] <raf_> how do u fix bad sectors on disk
[01:54] <raf_> ?
[01:54] <kendals> Since most of my friends use either MSN or Gtalk, kinda want audio on those....but Ubuntu has none yet :'(
[01:54] <kendals> Gaim is taking forever...
[01:54] <GoOdcm> i cant get soundcard work in ekiga
[01:54] <raf_> anybody?
[01:56] <zaggynl> kendals, try bitlbee
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: For starters stop using the enter key quite so often...
[01:57] <raf_> im not sure i follow:()
[01:57] <raf_> :(
[01:57] <surface> daurn:  dpkg -l | grep gtk
[01:57] <raf_> im in real trouble here...my laptop isnt working
[01:57] <surface> daurn:  this is to list all gtk related pkgs u have installed
[01:57] <raf_> and i dont have the money to go to a "puter store to fix it"
[01:58] <surface> raf_:  try to fit it urself then
[01:58] <Sikon> how can I record video from the desktop?
[01:58] <kendals> bitlbee is no good, zaggnyl
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Is this a dual boot system or single boot, how many partitions on the drive?
[01:58] <raf_> i want to..but i dont know how to fix bad secotors on hard drive
[01:58] <Ohh_noO> hi all
[01:58] <raf_> i have dual partition ..ubuntu  / xp
[01:58] <raf_> i can format if nesccesary
[01:58] <raf_> but will ir work?
[01:58] <Sikon> Jack_Sparrow> Salute to you, Captain!
[01:59] <raf_> linux gives me message about bad sectors....windows just blue screens...im on failsafe terminal now
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Soft errors can be fixed, laptops get bounced around alot, and if the drive is spinning it can have disasterous results
[01:59] <surface> raf_:  somehow u manage to online
[01:59] <Ohh_noO> Pls Help Me! I use this line in my /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1	/media/storage2 ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[01:59] <surface> raf_: try to google for low level format
[02:00] <raf_> im on failsafe term...typed in gnome-session
[02:00] <raf_> and used term to irc
[02:00] <Ohh_noO> but i cant open the partition
[02:00] <josh_> whats up people?
[02:00] <josh_> what is the command for getting the system time in seconds?
[02:00] <raf_> so what can i do...reformat entire drive?
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Get this cd... http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[02:00] <surface> raf_: i think ur hdd got big problem. so low level format may recover it, and may not and u have to change ur hdd
[02:01] <raf_> will a puter store be able to install a new HD?
[02:01] <raf_> for my laptop
[02:01] <raf_> ?
[02:01] <j2daosh> yeah
[02:01] <j2daosh> and if they cant leave fast
[02:01] <raf_> do u have any idea of what they charge?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: salvation hdd scan and repair tool is on that... and many others
[02:01] <KenSentMe> Is there a tool i can use to put dv video back to my camera?
[02:01] <j2daosh> no idea... probably around 40 if you go to best buy
[02:01] <raf_> problem is...i cant boot of cds
[02:02] <raf_> same issue...bios stals
[02:02] <j2daosh> raf u have to change that in the bios
[02:02] <raf_> i did
[02:02] <j2daosh> nevermind
[02:02] <j2daosh> lol
[02:02] <raf_> i think my hd is messed up
[02:02] <j2daosh> anyone know what the command is to get systemtime in seconds?
[02:02] <j2daosh> if your bios stalls u got bigger problems then your HDD lol
[02:03] <raf_> what can i do then?
[02:03] <raf_> take it to professional ?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Bios may only stall due to hd errors....   Sometimes it takes awhile but will go through and boot to the cd
[02:03] <bionoid> j2daosh: what do you mean? current unixtime?
[02:03] <Lynoure> j2daosh: see   man date
[02:03] <j2daosh> yeah
[02:03] <surface> raf_:  low level format
[02:03] <bionoid> date +%s
[02:03] <raf_> low level format?
[02:03] <raf_> can this be done with ubuntu live cd?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: low level format
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: I thought you could not boot to the cd?
[02:04] <j2daosh> how would i get file times in seconds also?
[02:04] <surface> raf_:  try to google it, it contain with bootable disc
[02:04] <raf_> most of the time i get "operating system not found"
[02:04] <Ohh_noO> Pls Help Me! I use this line in my /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1	/media/storage2 ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[02:04] <raf_> message
[02:04] <Ohh_noO> but i cant open the partition
[02:04] <alanhs> Hi, does anyone know how to get details of the changes made to a system by the last update ?
[02:04] <j2daosh> what is the "I" stuff?
[02:05] <raf_> it tells me i have 4% bad sectors
[02:05] <raf_> from my last forced disk check
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: make a backup of fstab   sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup
[02:05] <jrib> j2daosh: it's a tab
[02:05] <bionoid> j2daosh: ctime, mtime, atime.. what?
[02:05] <raf_> i tried to reinstall ubuntu..it stalled during the install at around 81%
[02:05] <califfo> I need to know how to find my QT version 4 qmake on my pc, can u help me?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: open it with   gedit  /etc/fstab     and copy it to !pastebin
[02:06] <raf_> all this started..when i accidentaly cut power to my laptop a few days ago
[02:06] <j2daosh> ctime....date(ctime)?
[02:06] <surface> raf_:  no harm try to check out google for what is low level format, and i did this last time and manage to fix bad sector.
[02:06] <Ohh_noO> k
[02:07] <zaggynl> holy crap, the zipping in in ubuntu really beats the crap out of the winxp's one
[02:07] <Samuli^> zipping?
[02:07] <raf_> i dont see a "sony vaio" low level format
[02:07] <ootput> how do i switch colorschemes/themes for kde apps when not running in kde?
[02:07] <earthian> my display driver is not working
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_: Some things are best left to professionals...
[02:08] <earthian> the fglrx
[02:08] <raf_> :(
[02:08] <earthian> any way to debug it?
[02:08] <bionoid> j2daosh: perl -e '@a=stat("filename");print $a[10] ;'
[02:08] <raf_> how much does a HD replacement for a sony vaio laptop go for?
[02:08] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, there is: http://pastebin.ca/176103
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: you can post your xorg and let someone check it out.
[02:08] <bionoid> j2daosh: I'm sure there's a better way to do that, though
[02:08] <Samuli^> earthian, does your X start?
[02:08] <earthian> yea
[02:08] <earthian> all start
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Looking now...
[02:09] <earthian> and instead of fglrx driver i see mesa driver in fglrxinfo
[02:09] <Shadowpillar_> how well does the jmicron AHCI work?
[02:09] <Samuli^> earthian, grep "fglrx" /etc/X11/xorg.conf gives you a line?
[02:09] <daurn> what is a good ftp server WITH gui that ISN'T perl
[02:09] <zaggynl> Samuli^, compressing files using zip
[02:09] <alessdoc> how can i see which processe is using oss?
[02:09] <alessdoc> what is the command line?
[02:10] <earthian> Samuli^, gives me two lines infact
[02:10] <bionoid> j2daosh: like stat -c%Z filename
[02:10] <surface> alessdoc:  top?
[02:10] <surface> alessdoc:  htop?
[02:10] <daurn> what is a good ftp server WITH gui that ISN'T perl
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> is there a log i can view to find otu where the clients requesting the pxelinux.0 file from?
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Thats ugly.... You show hdb1 as both vfat and ntfs...
[02:10] <earthian> !paste
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> i can only see a dhcp request in syslog
[02:10] <bionoid> daurn: Microsoft IIS is for you
[02:10] <earthian> i will paste you the xorg file
[02:11] <Samuli^> erathian, ok then, paste your xorg.conf to pastebin.
[02:11] <daurn> bionoid: ???
[02:11] <zaggynl> !quicktime
[02:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <alessdoc> with top i see all the process
[02:11] <daurn> something like filezilla server for windows
[02:11] <alessdoc> i need the process that is using oss
[02:11] <surface> daurn:  u want to make it at windows or linux?
[02:11] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, Oops copy paste editing....
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: You are mixing sata and ide drives....(not part of your problem atm)
[02:11] <surface> daurn:  nautilus is actually support that
[02:12] <daurn> surface: running on/in ubuntu, but adminable from anywhere - with a gui
[02:12] <surface> ftp://name@ip
[02:12] <daurn> surface: SERVER ;)
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: MAybe you just need to tell me what you are trying to do
[02:12] <surface> daurn:  ssh will do,
[02:12] <surface> daurn:  at windows site, client can find ssh client
[02:12] <daurn> ??
[02:12] <surface> daurn:  ssh client support drag and drop
[02:12] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, I just want use may other partitions
[02:13] <surface> daurn:  or winscp, but winscp slow.
[02:13] <daurn> surface: i want a server with a gui :S
[02:13] <daurn> how is ssh that?
[02:13] <earthian> Samuli^, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23979
[02:13] <Samuli^> Ohh_noO, can you manually mount the partition?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: You made the backup correct?
[02:13] <surface> daurn:  why u need server with gui?
[02:13] <daurn> cause i want one :S
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[02:14] <daurn> :*(
[02:14] <AZzKikR> daurn, for what purpose?
[02:14] <surface> daurn:  just a simple setup, why need gui.
[02:14] <daurn> don't ask why - just answer the question :S
[02:14] <earthian> daurn:
[02:14] <bionoid> daurn: I already answered - microsoft IIS.
[02:14] <earthian> !info gproftpd
[02:14] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[02:14] <surface> daurn:  it sounds rude to say this
[02:14] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, the backup is ok
[02:14] <surface> daurn:  ms IIS
[02:14] <daurn> bionoid: under ubuntu???
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Ohh_noO: Use the script I linked
[02:14] <earthian> so you need proftpd and gproftpd
[02:15] <bionoid> daurn: No. Clearly you don't want to be running ubuntu.
[02:15] <daurn> bionoid: correct... but i hate windows even more
[02:15] <earthian> daurn, so you need proftpd and gproftpd
[02:15] <Samuli^> earthian, (make a backup of your xorg.conf) and try commenting out lines 123,124 and 128-133
[02:15] <earthian> mh
[02:15] <earthian> k
[02:15] <daurn> earthian: thanks, i'll try it out
[02:16] <earthian> np
[02:16] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, thanks i will try it
[02:16] <Graywalker> Hey!  I got a REAL problem...
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: Sorry I didnt get back to you
[02:17] <zaggynl> !ports
[02:17] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[02:17] <zaggynl> ..
[02:17] <Graywalker> Synaptic Package Manager isn't showing up anymore... I can use sudo -i but if I try to run anything it says I'm not in the sudoers list any more.
[02:17] <zaggynl> Ubuntu seems to be blocking ports
[02:17] <tristan_> Did someone install properly an INtuix S800/Toshiba/Liteon USB TV key?
[02:17] <AZzKikR> wow
[02:17] <AZzKikR> what's happening here?
[02:17] <earthian> wtf?
[02:17] <tristan_> don't know
[02:17] <b0rdslide> hi. how can i get ubuntu to use my x server keymap not the gnome keymap? gnome keeps putting this stupid dead keys thing on
[02:18] <SillyZ> looks like a bad connection, on / off / on / off
[02:18] <tristan_> Did someone install properly an INtuix S800/Toshiba/Liteon USB TV key?
[02:18] <AZzKikR> and he has automatic reconnection
[02:18] <daurn> earthian: thx for the tip - looks good
[02:18] <SillyZ> might be his isp rebooting some equipment
[02:18] <SillyZ> and auto-reconnect yup
[02:18] <Ohh_noO> Jack_Sparrow, thank you for your help! Bye!
[02:18] <Graywalker> Anyone know about Sudoers list and how I could get booted off of it on my machine?
[02:18] <Ohh_noO> bye all
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:19] <earthian> is there a way to restart all GUI/UI without a need to reboot entire PC ?
[02:19] <alamba> earthian: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:19] <b0rdslide> earthian: ctrl-alt-backspace should do it
[02:20] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, did you edit the /etc/sudoers file?
[02:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning guys
[02:20] <earthian> ok thanks
[02:20] <Graywalker> Nope.
[02:20] <Graywalker> I don't know what did... or would have...
[02:20] <Graywalker> Can I do that now that I'm not on it??
[02:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> may i ask a quick question?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[02:20] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, wait before you edit that file. Can you just do a normal sudo operation?
[02:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> trying to install the nvidia drivers.  I have gcc 4.* installed now it says im missing cc?
[02:21] <Graywalker> I can log in terminal using sudo -i
[02:21] <Graywalker> but can't run Synaptic package manager
[02:21] <kendals> SKYPE FINALLY WORKS FOR ME!
[02:21] <raf_> i found something called dariks boot and nuke
[02:21] <Graywalker> I've installed some website management packages - skreem, kwiki and a couple other items.
[02:21] <raf_> on saourceforge
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> [BTF] Chm0d: have you used our help info or are you using some other one..
[02:21] <raf_> it does low level format
[02:21] <raf_> i hope i can make it work
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > [BTF] Chm0d
[02:22] <raf_> i need to install it via gnome baker first..lets hope that works
[02:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have used yours from last night but was missing gcc...I installed that and now I get this error from nvidia installer
[02:23] <micahcowan> [BTF] Chm0d, did you install build-depend?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia > jack_sparrow
[02:23] <alessdoc> how can i see which process is using oss?
[02:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> the exact error is unable to find development tool 'cc' in your path
[02:24] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, quite odd... i can't seem to find anything specific .. :/
[02:24] <CarinArr> [btf] chm0d, install build-essential
[02:24] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: but if you type 'cc' and hit enter, it says something akin to "no input files" ?
[02:24] <Graywalker> The Sudoers file has a red X on it... and the permissions are saying the owner only has read permission...
[02:24] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: or "command not found" ?
[02:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> command not found
[02:25] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: Right. And if you type 'gcc' ?
[02:25] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, iirc, /etc/sudoers is only readable by someone with sudo permissions, and is only writable through the visudo command
[02:25] <raf_> ok dban 1.0.7 is burnung
[02:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm samething but i installed it?
[02:26] <bionoid> [BTF] Chm0d: No.. No you didn't. :)
[02:26] <Graywalker> So... how do I log on as actual 'root' user in Ubuntu?
[02:26] <micahcowan> [BTF] Chm0d, what is the second line in the output of "update-alternatives --display cc"?
[02:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> i thought i did :P  form the synaptic package manager
[02:26] <micahcowan> [BTF] Chm0d, install build-depend
[02:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> no alternatives
[02:27] <AZzKikR> !root
[02:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> k mica i will try that thank you
[02:27] <earthian> hey
[02:27] <earthian> no success
[02:28] <Graywalker> graywalker@Beth:/etc$ !root
[02:28] <Graywalker> root
[02:28] <Graywalker> bash: root: command not found
[02:28] <Graywalker> graywalker@Beth:/etc$
[02:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> installing now
[02:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> :)
[02:28] <bionoid> lol
[02:28] <AZzKikR> Graywalker, read that page the ubotu bot returned :)
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker:  use sudo, or gksudo or kdesu....
[02:29] <AZzKikR> Jack_Sparrow, he can only sudo using the -i flag somehow
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker: Did you already set a root password earlier?
[02:30] <Graywalker> no.
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker: had to ask
[02:30] <Graywalker> Thats the problem, Jack_Sparrow... I'm no longer in the sudoers file... for some odd reason...
[02:31] <daurn> earthian: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Graywalker: Were you running nautilus as root for anything?
[02:31] <earthian_> hey
[02:31] <Graywalker> Not that I know of...
[02:31] <bionoid> Graywalker: you could boot to single user mode, add yourself to sudoers, then reboot and you're set.
[02:32] <earthian_> Samuli^, it is not working.. what exactly i should write there?
[02:32] <Graywalker> how do I boot to single user mode?  ( Pretty Nubie here, but learning quick )
[02:32] <earthian_> Graywalker,
[02:32] <Graywalker> I guess I could just try it :D
[02:32] <earthian_> can you su
[02:32] <earthian_> ?
[02:32] <earthian_> type su
[02:32] <earthian_> and then root password
[02:32] <earthian_> or type login then root and password
[02:33] <Samuli^> grayscale, sudo init 1
[02:33] <AZzKikR> earthian, that only works when you explicitly added a root user
[02:33] <earthian_> oh
[02:33] <earthian_> :o
[02:33] <Graywalker> su gets authentication error
[02:33] <earthian_> i see
[02:33] <Samuli^> grayscale, and to get back to multi-user sudo init 2
[02:34] <bionoid> Graywalker: reboot, at the grub menu hit 'e' then type 'linux single'
[02:34] <Samuli^> really.. SUDO INIT 1 :)
[02:34] <Graywalker> Will try now... thanks!!
[02:34] <bionoid> Samuli^: Yeah, great idea for adding yourself to sudoers ;)
[02:35] <Samuli^> bionoid, that's not what he asked.
[02:35] <bionoid> um, yes, yes it was.
[02:35] <Samuli^> "<Graywalker> how do I boot to single user mode? "
[02:35] <Graywalker> I've been removed from the Sudoers file somehow...
[02:35] <Samuli^> so I told him. :)
[02:35] <Graywalker> Can't do anything.
[02:36] <Graywalker> rebooting to single user mode was suggested.  I didn't know how.
[02:36] <earthian_> Samuli^, my gfx is still not working.. what exactly i should write there in those lines??
[02:36] <earthian_> remember?
[02:36] <ubuntu> im using ubuntu live cd to format all my partitions
[02:36] <ubuntu> can this work?
[02:36] <Samuli^> oh ok, then you need to use the fail-safe option at grub, that'll get you to runlevel 1 and as root of course.
[02:36] <ubuntu> to fix bad sectors?
[02:37] <jalla> I am having problems installing compiz, can someone please help
[02:37] <Graywalker> Samuli - now that rings true... thanks...
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: SOft errors yes, hard errors no.
[02:37] <Graywalker> L8Tr
[02:37] <bionoid> ubuntu: You can't really "fix" a bad sector - you can flag it as bad so it won't be used, then wait for the rest of your disk to corrupt..
[02:37] <Samuli^> hmm, does he know what to do after he's in the bash.. I wonder.
[02:37] <ubuntu> well jacl_sparrows...i will attempt to reinstall ubuntu on entire harddrive..if this dosent fix it..am i to consider a new HD?
[02:37] <jalla> I am having problems installing compiz, can someone please help
[02:37] <earthian_> ubuntu, better go copy your data asap
[02:38] <earthian_> jalla, what video hardware?
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> bionoid: It is a laptop that lost power while writing, not to mention movement while spinning..
[02:38] <jalla> nvidia geforce mx 440
[02:38] <bionoid> Ouch ;)
[02:38] <ubuntu> is there a terminal command to run a disk check?
[02:38] <jalla> i get this errior message: gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[02:38] <jalla> jukebox@jukebox:~$ compiz.real: No composite extension
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> He was here earlier under a different name
[02:39] <ubuntu> Jacksparrow....i have hda1 and hda2...my hda2 has boot flag..i need this on hda1...how to change it?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: just tell the installer to use the entire disk...
[02:40] <politik> Is there a way to make apt or aptitude download multiple packages at once, in the phase before package installation?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: are you still trying to save your xp?
[02:40] <ubuntu> can having the boot flag on wrong hda cause my problems? "operating system not found"/
[02:40] <Samuli^> jalla, are you sure you have xgl installed and loaded instead of X?
[02:40] <ubuntu> i deleted my xp
[02:40] <JosefK> was XP the first partition on the drive?
[02:40] <ubuntu> im more worried about my linux  laptop then some piece of shit xp
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: You can use gparted to format that partition.
[02:41] <ubuntu> i did just now
[02:41] <ubuntu> im using entire disk to install
[02:41] <ubuntu> im crossing my fingers its a soft issue
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: Are you now trying to save your linux install?
[02:41] <ubuntu> i formated everything
[02:41] <ubuntu> lol
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:41] <ubuntu> just not my swap
[02:41] <jalla> i used this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper_no#Hvordan_installerer_jeg_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29.3F
[02:41] <ubuntu> i dont see a need to format swap
[02:42] <ubuntu> since its empty
[02:42] <califfo> Error: Failed to create ./qtdirs. Make sure you have a working Qt v4 qmake on your PATH or use the -q argument to explicitly specify a working Qt v4 qmake. ... what can I do to solve this error?
[02:42] <ubuntu> if this fails..it seems i need to go visit my local puter shop
[02:42] <ubuntu> and probably purchase a new laptop HD
[02:42] <earthian_> !info fuse
[02:42] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in any distro I know
[02:42] <earthian_> !fuse
[02:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: this should map out your bad sectors and get you going, but start saving for a new drive
[02:42] <Samuli^> jalla, are you using gnome?
[02:43] <jalla> shure
[02:43] <jalla> yes
[02:43] <ubuntu> i know how i got the bad sectors...i think ...( i cut power to my laptop) a few days ago
[02:43] <ubuntu> all problems started since
[02:43] <ubuntu> i took out the battery then to dust it...and i cut power
[02:44] <ubuntu> lol
[02:44] <ubuntu> gosh im an idiot
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: I have seen a few that lost power as someone tripped over the cord and yanked the laptop
[02:44] <bionoid> ubuntu: Rarely does loss of power cause physical damage to modern hardware - back in the 286 days that was the case (drive didn't park properly by itself), but in general, drives today survive loss of power just fine..
[02:44] <Samuli^> !compiz
[02:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:44] <ubuntu> this is a rather new laptop
[02:44] <ubuntu> 2006 model
[02:44] <ubuntu> only about a year on it
[02:44] <ubuntu> and it never gets moved around
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: This will get you going
[02:44] <ubuntu> hope so
[02:44] <ubuntu> if not...ill have to fork out cash
[02:45] <ubuntu> $$
[02:45] <Samuli^> jalla, try following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351 that's how I got it to work with no fuss.
[02:45] <bionoid> ubuntu: Then it's probably related to alcohol, baseball bats, sledge hammer or any other hard object ;)
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: Next time delete the swap and let the installer rebuild everything
[02:45] <jalla> someone please help
[02:45] <jalla> ok
[02:45] <ubuntu> i chose "use entire IDE"
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bionoid: Room-mates....
[02:46] <bionoid> "mates" ;\
[02:46] <ubuntu> thank god i keep all my important data on external drive
[02:46] <ubuntu> and dvds
[02:46] <Samuli^> jalla, no, wait. This one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: Good choice
[02:46] <ubuntu> otherwise i woulda been doin alot of cursing right now
[02:46] <Neo8750> its the way to do it
[02:46] <jalla> does it mather that i used the other guide first?
[02:47] <Samuli^> jalla, after you've done that and confirmed it works you want to add quinn's repos and start compiz with compiz-start instead of the 'thefuture' script
[02:47] <ubuntu> i cant believe my boot flag was on my hda2 = my windows xp
[02:47] <ubuntu> when i used hda1  grub to boot
[02:47] <ubuntu> how the hell
[02:47] <Samuli^> jalla, did you need to rename your /etc/X11/X or something similar?
[02:47] <jalla> i dont think i renamed anything
[02:48] <Artu74> hi all
[02:48] <ubuntu> i should purchase a second HD and put it in my laptop
[02:48] <ubuntu> it has a space for it
[02:48] <ubuntu> maybe a 80 gig one
[02:48] <bionoid> I want two drives in my laptop as well :(
[02:48] <jalla> do you mean this guide?
[02:49] <jalla> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[02:49] <bionoid> I have two cpu cores though, that helps :\
[02:49] <ubuntu> i have 80 gig one right now
[02:49] <ubuntu> but after all this
[02:49] <JosefK> bionoid: I just want a bloomin' laptop *curses dell's delivery service*
[02:49] <ubuntu> i think ill buy a second one
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: I wouldnt add one... id drop in the new one if this one acts up...
[02:49] <Samuli^> jalla, this is what I mean. I'm getting my urls mixed bad :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[02:49] <Samuli^> jalla, yeah, that's the one.
[02:49] <ubuntu> im still hoping its a software issue..since my boot flag was in the wrong place
[02:49] <ubuntu> *&^^%*&%^*(&()
[02:49] <bionoid> JosefK: I never deal with dell anymore - their "next business day service" was in practice "four-months service"
[02:50] <bionoid> I think that deserves some mentioning in their contracts
[02:50] <bionoid> :\
[02:50] <jalla> what aboute this: "
[02:50] <jalla> You must compile the newest CVS version of glitz to get this to work with Nvidia cards that lack Pixel Shaders (aka anything older than a 5200 FX). Hopefully this will be updated in the repository soon.
[02:50] <jalla> "
[02:50] <ubuntu> im not gonna even bother with xgl
[02:50] <ubuntu> after this
[02:50] <Samuli^> jalla, so, I take it you haven't done that?
[02:50] <ubuntu> once this is installed..i need to find a good low level formating tool
[02:50] <jalla> i haven't
[02:51] <jalla> the other guide didn't tell me anything aboute that
[02:51] <chemaja> ubuntu, dd?
[02:51] <jalla> how do i do that?
[02:51] <ubuntu> ive read up on it
[02:51] <ubuntu> seems its not a bad idea
[02:51] <ubuntu> i found one on sourceforge net
[02:51] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> Please Poland!!!
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: no, once this is installed you are done
[02:51] <ubuntu> polska?
[02:51] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> tak
[02:51] <ubuntu> czesc
[02:51] <politik> Is there a way to make apt download multiple packages at once, in the phase before package installation?
[02:51] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> siema
[02:51] <ubuntu> dobrze
[02:51] <ubuntu> a ty?
[02:52] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> mam dopiero 20 minut tego Ubuntu
[02:52] <Samuli^> jalla, that one is a good guide. Quite old, but tried and true. and you can easily switch to quinn's packages too.
[02:52] <Trackilizer> How does one add a Firefox like bookmark toolbar into Opera?
[02:52] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> i bardzo mi sie podoba
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> politik: apt-get install package1 package2 package3 .... packagen
[02:52] <bionoid> ubuntu: What brand is your disk?
[02:52] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> nawet sobie sam internet skonfigurowalem...
[02:52] <ubuntu> its a sata 80 gig sony vaio
[02:52] <politik> fyrestrtr: I mean simultaneously... not one after another
[02:52] <jalla> i dont understand what you mean...
[02:52] <ubuntu> not a good one
[02:53] <politik> fyrestrtr: e.g. if I have 10 packages to install, I want them to be downloaded simultaneously, so they download more quickly...
[02:53] <ubuntu> its a sony vaio standard one
[02:53] <jalla> should i use this guide, and not do the CVS stuff?
[02:53] <Neo8750> politik: you want to download in threads (shakey use of term)
[02:53] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> s tu jeszcze jacy polacy?
[02:53] <bionoid> ubuntu: Hm hitachi drive then?
[02:53] <politik> Neo8750: yes exactly. preferably from multiple mirrors
[02:53] <mjr> nie jest atwo
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> English only please
[02:53] <j2daosh> yeah
[02:53] <j2daosh> what he said :)
[02:53] <j2daosh> lol
[02:54] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> mjr... idzie tutaj wejsc na priva?
[02:54] <Davo_Dinkum> arrrrrr!
[02:54] <Samuli^> jalla, you need glitz from cvs and compiled. after that you can go on following the guide.
[02:54] <Neo8750> politik: i know the update does it when it gets package lists but not sure how todo it when actually upgradeing/install
[02:54] <jalla> howe do i do that?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Marcyes, please take it private
[02:54] <mjr> Marcinekkkkkkcze, that's really all the polish I know, so go to #ubuntu-pl
[02:54] <Samuli^> jalla, although I suggest you get the glitz and try if compiz starts with your current setup.
[02:54] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> how?
[02:55] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> co to jest Ubuntu-pl?
[02:55] <jalla> how do i get glitz?
[02:55] <Neo8750> mjr: you only know how to say you don't speek polish? =8-)
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Marcinekkkkkkcze:   /join #ubuntu-pl
[02:55] <mjr> Neo8750, rather "it ain't easy"
[02:55] <Neo8750> hehe
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> No habla engles
[02:56] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> i weak speak english but i know something... heh
[02:57] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> how can i join to polish server? What i must do?
[02:57] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> but how?
[02:58] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> what i must do?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> write what I wrote about joining a new channel
[02:58] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> this is server or IRC?
[02:58] <califfo> /join #ubuntu-pl
[02:58] <Marcinekkkkkkcze> join #ubuntu-pl
[02:58] <jalla> how do i "get the glitz"?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Use the slash
[02:58] <ChaosFan> Marcinekkkkkkcze: you need the / in front
[02:58] <Neo8750> Marcinekkkkkkcze: your in an irc chat room on an irc server =)
[02:59] <Samuli^> jalla, did the guide you were following make you add stuff to your sources.list?
[02:59] <jalla> no
[03:00] <Marlun> I've got the 6.06.1 desktop cd, and when I put it in to install a desktop version I can't, It only starts up the live cd  function.
[03:00] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, so first do sudo apt-get install cvs
[03:01] <bionoid> Marlun: Isn't there an "install" icon on your desktop when started from livecd?
[03:01] <brujo> zorro
[03:01] <zorro> what?
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> Marlun: double click the icon marked 'Install' on the desktop of the livecd.
[03:01] <Samuli^> jalla, I'm warning you now though, installing stuff outside of the repos might break your system.
[03:01] <Marlun> oh
[03:02] <Marlun> I'll try that, thanks =)
[03:02] <jalla> :(
[03:02] <jalla> i dont care
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> you will when your puter breaks.
[03:02] <jalla> done
[03:02] <Marlun> I'm not updated on this new stuff :P thanks for the help!
[03:03] <jalla> what now? Follow the guide?
[03:03] <nifan> b'tarde
[03:03] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, so you've installed cvs now. now type cd && mkdir glitz && cd glitz
[03:03] <jalla> done
[03:03] <Samuli^> jalla, then: cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/cairo co glitz
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> please take xgl discussion to #ubuntu-xgl
[03:04] <daurn> hey all
[03:04] <daurn> how do i see what programs are using what ports?
[03:04] <jalla> done
[03:04] <Samuli^> jalla, that should pull in cvs-source of glitz.
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> daurn: netstat -l
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I use the guarddog firewall manager...
[03:04] <jalla> should i follow the guide now?
[03:04] <daurn> ok... whats this?:
[03:05] <daurn> tcp        0      0 *:8000                  *:*                     LISTEN
[03:05] <Samuli^> jalla, no, we need to compile and install that source first. For that you're going to need some compiling progs and libraries glitz needs.
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> means something is listening on port 8000 on all ip addresses.
[03:05] <daurn> what though?
[03:05] <jalla> ok, how do i do that?
[03:05] <Samuli^> jalla, so type sudo apt-get install bison flex autoconf automake1.9 perl libtool gcc make build-essential
[03:05] <daurn> none of the output explains which programs
[03:06] <daurn> just the ports used - and their states
[03:06] <Samuli^> jalla, that might take a while to download :)
[03:06] <jalla> yes
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Oh, boy kernel updates and a flood of people that cant get to XP using grub
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> daurn: netstat -lp
[03:07] <daurn> ah
[03:07] <daurn> better
[03:07] <daurn> but still not for this bugger:
[03:07] <visik7> Jack_Sparrow: is not a bug is a feature :)
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:07] <daurn> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name
[03:07] <jalla> done
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> dark: run it with sudo
[03:07] <daurn> tcp        0      0 *:8000                  *:*                     LISTEN     -
[03:07] <visik7> Jack_Sparrow: here to friends of mine hasn't problem booting windows after kernel update
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> dark: if you run it with sudo, it will give you the process name.
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> !grub > visik7
[03:08] <daurn> ah
[03:08] <daurn> thx
[03:08] <visik7> fyrestrtr: I DON'T NEED GRUB INFO!
[03:08] <CromagDK> !shout
[03:08] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:08] <daurn> hmm
[03:08] <daurn> wtf
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> visik7: sure you do, you just don't know it yet.
[03:08] <daurn> i just installed icecast
[03:08] <daurn> but... it errored on port busy
[03:08] <visik7> fyrestrtr:  I'm not the one with the problem
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> visik7: IT always seems to remove XP from my grub list
[03:08] <jalla> what now?
[03:08] <daurn> but.... in netstat - its already being used my icecast
[03:09] <daurn> !!!
[03:09] <visik7> fyrestrtr: Jack_Sparrow has problem with grub not me
[03:09] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: see what I said about grub :)
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> visik7: My grub is fine, for the moment
[03:09] <fyrestrtr> daurn: well now you know why its busy :)
[03:09] <CromagDK> i cant update kernel :P not enough space in /boot
[03:09] <visik7> CromagDK: remove some old kernels
[03:10] <CromagDK> there are non
[03:10] <CromagDK> only made 20 megs for it
[03:10] <daurn> ok, what do you guys suggets as a library based audio player, that is like, but NOT amarok
[03:10] <daurn> *suggest
[03:10] <Marlun> Ok, so the live cd started up but my resolution is all down to 640x480 so when I click on "Install" I can't see enough. There are no resolution options to choose from either. How can I add that?
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> daurn: Exaile
[03:10] <Samuli^> jalla, now all you need is the libraries: sudo apt-get install libglitz1 libglitz1-dev libglitz-glx1 libglitz-glx1-dev
[03:11] <daurn> fyrestrtr: not in apt-get
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> daurn: http://www.exaile.org/
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> daurn: yes, I'm aware of that.
[03:11] <ootput> at any point in the install process (from the alt. cd,) will a network connection be required?
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you can get a deb for dapper from that site.
[03:12] <jalla> done
[03:12] <daurn> thx
[03:12] <ootput> There's a box in an internet-less room that I'd like to install Ubuntu on
[03:12] <daurn> does it support shoutcast (out)
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> ootput: no, it doesn't.
[03:13] <fyrestrtr> daurn: for streams, sudo aptitude -r install streamtuner
[03:13] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, now: sudo mkdir /opt/fdo && sudo mkdir /opt/fdo/share && sudo mkdir /opt/fdo/share/aclocal
[03:13] <jalla> done
[03:14] <Samuli^> jalla, then: sudo chown -hR yourusername && /opt/fdocp /usr/share/aclocal/* /opt/fdo/share/aclocal/ && cp /usr/share/aclocal-1.9/* /opt/fdo/share/aclocal/
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought you guys were asked nicely to take that to another room
[03:14] <Samuli^> ok, sorry.
[03:15] <daurn> fyrestrtr: htf do you use streamtuner
[03:15] <daurn> :S
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you browse streams, click on the one you like, it opens them in xmms :)
[03:15] <daurn> ok
[03:15] <daurn> problem 1. xmms won't connect
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you can also record streams from it.
[03:15] <dbzdeath> um i have a problem i have some broken packages could someone help me please?
[03:15] <daurn> problem 2. i wanted to host my own stream
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: What are you trying to install
[03:16] <Marlun> Is there no way to add resolution on the live cd? I can't install right now because my screen is stuck at a very low resolution =/
[03:16] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: i was trying to install an update to libcairo2
[03:16] <fyrestrtr> daurn: to host your own stream, you just need shoutcast/icecast -- that's it.
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix or EasyUbuntu, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[03:16] <jalla> i get an error: chown: mangler operand etter jukebox
[03:16] <jalla> Prv med chown --help for mer informasjon.
[03:16] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: nope never
[03:16] <daurn> fyrestrtr: but does exaile output to it?
[03:17] <Samuli^> jalla, check your query.
[03:17] <fyrestrtr> daurn: it doesn't. exaile is a replacement for amarok.
[03:17] <derjur> anyone know why 'fortune | cowsay | mail email@domain.com' works, but when i put it in a crontab, it only does 'cowsay | mail email@domain.com' ?
[03:17] <daurn> ok..
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: ggod choice
[03:17] <daurn> maybe i'm missing the point
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[03:17] <jalla> ????
[03:17] <daurn> but, back in windows
[03:17] <Neo8750> why would you prut them in crontab?
[03:17] <daurn> you had the server
[03:17] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: so.. can you help me?
[03:18] <fyrestrtr> derjur: give the full path to fortune in the cron job.
[03:18] <daurn> and a plugin for your player, that outputted to the server
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: I'll try
[03:18] <Samuli^> jalla, what program are you using to irc?
[03:18] <jalla> xChat
[03:18] <derjur> fyrestrtr: awesome, that's the one
[03:18] <Samuli^> jalla, well, see the bottom, you should see my name there in a separate tab.
[03:18] <Neo8750> wouldn't you want fortune and all that to be in bashrc or the system version of that file
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: What packages can it not find?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: Thank you
[03:19] <jalla> yes
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: only registered nicks can send and recieve queries on this network.
[03:19] <daurn> fyrestrtr: is that not true for ubuntu?
[03:19] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: it's not what it can't find it's what it wants to remove...
[03:19] <Samuli^> fyrestrtr, damn.
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> daurn: what isn't?
[03:19] <daurn> maybe i'm missing the point
[03:19] <daurn> but, back in windows
[03:19] <Samuli^> would you guys mind, I think we're almost done here anyways. :)
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: What is it trying to remove?
[03:19] <daurn> and a plugin for your player, that outputted to the server
[03:19] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: "155 to remove"
[03:20] <dbzdeath> shit loads of stuff
[03:20] <daurn> arg
[03:20] <daurn> you had the server
[03:20] <saiko> anyone here use cplay, as far as i can tell it doesn't support any ID3 tag read/view/edit option, am i right on this one ?
[03:20] <daurn> and a plugin for your player, that outputted to the server
[03:20] <isildur> moin
[03:20] <Samuli^> jalla, type ls in the glitz directory, do you see directory glitz there? if you do, go to it.
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: I already put him on ignore.. again, aftert taking him off it this morning.
[03:21] <manmadha> is there any diff detween shell & bash scripting if so acu u tell me???
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you mean this?
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> !info xmms-liveice
[03:21] <ubotu> xmms-liveice: XMMS plugin that sends your audio to a shoutcast server. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.0-6 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> manmadha: bash is one of many shells available on linux.
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> dbzdeath: There was a bug about that... I would rather bow out than mislead you.
[03:21] <jalla> i is there
[03:22] <bionoid> manmadha: "shell" is a generic term, which can describe bash, ash, zsh, tcsh etc. bash is a specific shell
[03:22] <manmadha> fyrestrtr, ya ya
[03:22] <manmadha> got it
[03:22] <zaggynl> a shell is what allows you to communicate with the kernel right?
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> No
[03:22] <dbzdeath> grrm..
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> A shell is a command intepreter.
[03:22] <fyrestrtr> zaggynl: no, a shell is a front end to the operating system itself. It what controls the prompt.
[03:22] <Samuli^> jalla, ok so go there, and type ./autogen.sh
[03:22] <zaggynl> fyrestrtr, ah okay
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> zaggynl: you never actually communicate directly with the kernel :)
[03:23] <marcus_> good morning.... Can someone tell me if I would see better results running the 686 kernel on a celeron 1.6 as opposed to 386?
[03:23] <Samuli^> jalla, after that: make && sudo make install
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: nothing visible.
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr:   dbzdeath  is trying to updatel something that wante to remove 150+ packages
[03:23] <daurn> um
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> Jack_Sparrow: that's nice.
[03:24] <daurn> how do you change sound cards in cplay?
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> daurn: you probably want xmms-liveice :)
[03:24] <marcus_> fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[03:24] <dbzdeath> Jack_Sparrow: i know why the problem happened but i don't know how to get it to "undo"
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> dbzdeath: what are you trying to install?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> marcus_: You can have both available to choose from
[03:24] <dbzdeath> fyrestrtr: well i don't want it installed anymore but it was libcairo2
[03:24] <Hasdech> hello all - would someone be so kind as to help me get started adding a second hdd to my ubuntu box...?  it has no partition on it at the moment ... how do i partition the drive and ?format it? and mount it?  anyone know any good noob sites that might help me ...?
[03:25] <marcus_> Jack_Sparrow: if it isn't going to make a difference i'll just stay with 386
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> Hasdech: to format and partition the drive, install gparted and run it from system > administration
[03:25] <daurn> how do you change sound cards in cplay?
[03:25] <RedKrieg> Hasdech if you already have it in the box and connected, use sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> marcus_: It isnt going to make much difference
[03:25] <Samuli^> Hasdech, you can do all that with system/administration/disks
[03:25] <Schamane> hi hter
[03:25] <RedKrieg> Hasdech: then you can use gparted
[03:26] <Hasdech> sorry - i should have said i am running ubuntu on this box - but NOT the gui - i have no gui - i'm using command line only - sorry forgot to mention that
[03:26] <Thug_P> hello
[03:26] <earthian_> Hasdech, parted then
[03:26] <Hasdech> so - server install ...
[03:26] <Schamane> i just got a question about hw support, i wanna install ubuntu server on an dell PE 1950, the problem ist, that the raid and the NIC are not detected
[03:26] <marcus_> The other question I have is why fglrx-ati has problems with radeon express cards
[03:26] <CromagDK> !hardware
[03:26] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:27] <Schamane> where can i read about hw support or something else?
[03:27] <Schamane> ubotu: thx
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:27] <daurn> how do i change the "default" sound card?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> Hasdech: use cfdisk or fdisk to create partitions, and then depending on what filesystem you want, you can use the various mk* commands to create the filesystem. Then, create a mount point (a directory) and mount a partition there, and begin using it.
[03:27] <Samuli^> Hasdech, parted and then you need to mount the drive by using mount or editing fstab for mounting to be automatical. "man" is your friend :)
[03:27] <CromagDK> !hax
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <CromagDK> damnit
[03:27] <daurn> fyrestrtr:  how do i change the "default" sound card?
[03:27] <Schamane> thx Jack_Sparrow
[03:27] <kihai> Hi there, just a short question: Does anyone know where to change the auth.log settings, so that I can see both login and logout times of all users?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> daurn: how many sound cards do you have?
[03:27] <daurn> 2
[03:27] <kihai> Until now there are only the login times
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Schamane: the other bot info you want is ndiswrapper
[03:28] <jalla> done
[03:28] <Schamane> Jack_Sparrow: no, cause its an e1000 module
[03:28] <Schamane> i think
[03:28] <Bend4rt> what is a very VERY ubuntu begginner site that would explain easily how to start using ubuntu ?
[03:28] <scrp> smbmount is the only way to access shared windows file
[03:28] <Hasdech> fyre: is there any diff between cfdisk or fdisk?
[03:28] <CromagDK> Bend4rt: look in topic :)
[03:28] <Schamane> i ve installed one with suse 10.1
[03:28] <Schamane> without any problems
[03:28] <CromagDK> very very nice
[03:28] <scrp> Hasdech: only the user interface
[03:28] <Bend4rt> lol thanks
[03:28] <marcus_> Oh yeah one other question. How to I enable shell access to other computers on my network? And would that enable them to start an x-session?
[03:28] <jalla> what do i do next?
[03:28] <Schamane> the hwlist is very incomplete ;)
[03:29] <daurn> fyrestrtr: i changed it in System->Preferences->Sound
[03:29] <ootput> how do i go about themeing (customizing, at least) kde apps without being in the kde environment?
[03:29] <daurn> but when i use any app - it reverts to the other
[03:29] <ootput> for such items as themes, or colorschemes
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Bend4rt: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:29] <scrp> marcus_: you can use ssh to connect to other linux boxes, not sure if you can run X tho
[03:29] <tengil> how do i move files between harddrives while keeping filepermissions and owner/group?
[03:29] <fildo> x11vnc
[03:29] <harrisR> hi room, has anyone ever used IRCD?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ootput: BAsic themes fro Ubuntu are applied to kde apps like Konversation which I am in now
[03:30] <scrp> Is smbmount the only way to access shared folders on Windwos ?
[03:30] <marcus_> scrp: The other computers on my network are the other OS. Is it still possible to use SSH?
[03:30] <keleus> Do i have to do anything special (besides install the ssh server) to use the X livecd?
[03:30] <Samuli^> jalla, did all go without errors?
[03:30] <jalla> i think so
[03:30] <Samuli^> jalla, now you should have the latest and greatest glitz and can continue using the guide.
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> tengil: if both hard disks have filesystems that have compatible permissions, then cp -a
[03:30] <jalla> ok, thanks!
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: yes.
[03:30] <scrp> marcus_: you can use ssh to connect to any linux box(running sshd), thats for sure, even from Windows
[03:31] <daurn> how do i change the "default" sound card?
[03:31] <daurn> i changed it in System->Preferences->Sound
[03:31] <marcus_> fyrestrtr: Thanks
[03:31] <Samuli^> jalla, but first try if compiz starts now.
[03:31] <daurn> but when i use any app - it reverts to the other
[03:31] <marcus_> scrp: Thanks
[03:31] <jalla> ok
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: do you have two sound cards, an onboard and a plugin
[03:31] <daurn> yes
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[03:31] <tengil> fyrestrtr: ah but i cant use mv for this? ill copy and then remove?
[03:31] <jalla> error: compiz.real: No composite extension jukebox@jukebox:~/glitz/glitz$ gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27186
[03:32] <scrp> marcus_: if your running windows and want to connect to your linux box you can use putty, http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[03:32] <Samuli^> jalla, ok, so follow the guide.
[03:32] <jalla> ok
[03:32] <mawe> huhu
[03:32] <Thug_P> while recognizing your all doing something let's do something real
[03:33] <mawe> can someone read me?
[03:33] <Thug_P> first we start a new linux solution for irc users that's how the hell can i switch my system too not run same applications each time on except some
[03:33] <marcus_> scrp: Putty? Okay. Should be easy enough. :) Still wondering about x through ssh?
[03:33] <scrp> marcus_: i dont think thats going to work :p
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: you can tunnel X over ssh. Just google :)
[03:33] <scrp> aw, okay it works then lol
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: but, the better option is to use vnc.
[03:34] <harrisR> I just set up my own chat server and it works great however I cannot op myself? Sounds funny but I was wondering if anyone knows how I can go about this? I looked at my config files but don't see anything there and have been searching the internet much with no luck
[03:34] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: first though, how do i know which sound card is which?
[03:34] <dbzdeath> is it possible to undo a package installation if dpkg -i package.deb happens to fail? if so how?
[03:34] <scrp> harrisR: depends on the ircd you have
[03:34] <marcus_> hmmm is there a way to enable seperate x session like through xmdc (Sp) and is it difficult to do?
[03:34] <CromagDK> harrisR: you might need services
[03:34] <mawe> is ubunutu running on a ntfs volume?
[03:34] <CromagDK> chanserv maybe
[03:34] <kihai> Anyone knows where to change auth.log settings, so that both login and logout times are recorded?
[03:34] <harrisR> I have ircd-irc2?
[03:34] <CromagDK> depends on the ircd
[03:34] <scrp> harrisR: for example you cant op yourself on IRCnet networks
[03:34] <harrisR> installed from synamptic
[03:35] <marcus_> fyrestrtr: Vnc is the shared desktop thing right?
[03:35] <wastrel> ubunto
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> !vnc > marcus_
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I would use those instructions and try one then the other.
[03:35] <joaquinz> hi!
[03:35] <harrisR> I am not sure what you mean, I am connected to my own computer
[03:35] <joaquinz> is is possible to have direct rendering enabled with a 9600xt using radeon open source driver?
[03:35] <CromagDK> scrp: its localy i think
[03:35] <joaquinz> or not yet?
[03:36] <marcus_> thank you
[03:36] <scrp> can smbclient be used to access shared windows folders? or is it just smbmount ?
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: you can enable remote X logins, but the clients must have a X server running, otherwise you need VNC.
[03:36] <kihai> Noone?
[03:36] <marcus_> Okay
[03:36] <mawe> does ubuntu need a FAT volume?
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> scrp: smbmount to mount shares.
[03:36] <scrp> mawe: no
[03:36] <bionoid> joaquinz: Don't really know, but I know changing from open source to proprietary driver on my 9700 mobility increased the performance by a factor 5, at least..
[03:36] <mawe> so i can go over ntfs without problems?
[03:36] <daurn> mawe: just ext2/3 or reiserfs by standard
[03:36] <scrp> fyrestrtr: so, in what package does smbmount come in with?
[03:36] <CromagDK> mawe: go over ?!
[03:37] <mikbrent> greetings everyone... i have a smbclient vs mount -t smbfs question if someone doenst mind
[03:37] <scrp> mawe: linux runs on ext (usually)
[03:37] <mawe> well, install on a ntfs volume
[03:37] <joaquinz> bionoid: yeah i know, but the open source driver support aiglx :$
[03:37] <joaquinz> :D
[03:37] <CromagDK> mawe: it wont be ntfs when your finished with it heh
[03:37] <der0b> mikbrent, ask and we'll answer if we can
[03:37] <Thug_P> boys and girls tell me how too play dvd in ubuntu
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> scrp: smbclient I think.
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[03:37] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> scrp: sorry, smbfs.
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[03:37] <wastrel> mawe:  you can't install ubuntu on ntfs, the installer will format the drive as a linux filesystem type
[03:37] <Samuli^> !restricted formats > Thug_P
[03:38] <wastrel> bah
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: its RestrictedFormats ;)
[03:38] <Samuli^> ach.
[03:38] <Bend4rt> i just found this automatix and easyubuntu thing that installs the most common things like nvidia drivers and codecs easily... anyone tried these ? wich one is better
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> Bend4rt: don't try either one, they tend to break systems.
[03:39] <mikbrent> ok thands der0b... my deal is this..." smbclient //172.16.0.63/d$  -U administrator " works while "mount -t smbfs //172.16.0.63/d$ /mnt/smbfs/ -o user=administrator" fails wsession setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)ith
[03:39] <Samuli^> Bend4rt, word is that easyubuntu is the safer one.
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Bend4rt: Automatix and Easyubuntu are the WORST things you can run.. Once you do.. there is no going back without restoring from a backup or reinstalling.
[03:39] <ootput> Bend4rt: though, there are conflicting reports
[03:39] <Schamane> mikbrent: is called -o username=
[03:39] <kihai> I can't believe it. There are 890 ppl in this room and no one knows, how the auth.log logger is set up???:'(
[03:39] <Thug_P> boys and girls tell me how too play dvd in ubuntu
[03:39] <shylock> hi after latest dapper update i get the dreaded ati fglrx errors and openoffice wont start. Is there a solution for this, i use an ati card
[03:39] <CromagDK> !dvd
[03:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> Bend4rt: there are very easy instructions to get drivers for nvidia and get all the codecs at the wiki. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:40] <Bend4rt> okay... i guess i'll have to learn how to do it without those programs
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> easyubuntu has improved... but it is still better to learn how to do it yourself
[03:40] <ootput> Bend4rt: which is why i always recommend other users to retrieve the packages manually, so they're familiar with the steps required (when working in reverse) to purge their system of said packages
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> shylock: re-compile your fglrx drivers.
[03:40] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, easyubuntu is great for installing codecs and stuff. All it does is pull them out from repos with apt-get, right?
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> shylock: the kernel got updated, so you must rebuild your binary drivers.
[03:40] <Thug_P> f
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: no, that's not what it does.
[03:40] <harrisR> scrp, I just checked. I have ircd-irc2 installed. I can connect to my computer on the standard port. Everything seems to work however it is like the server is not mine. Do you know of any documents I can read up on this? I basically would like to hide my ip when I am on my server and have op status.
[03:40] <gneral> how to uninstall mydns-mysql ?
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> gneral: sudo apt-get remove --purge mydns-mysql
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: I have not looked at the latest version, though I hear it was improved, probably by not using non-standard repos
[03:41] <gneral> thanks fyrestrtr :)
[03:41] <shylock> fyrestrtr: is that really necessary i really dont like compiling things
[03:41] <zaggynl> gah
[03:41] <KenSentMe> If i chmod my firewire interface /dev/raw1394 to 777, will it have the same settings when a firewiredevice is disconnected and connected again (so the /dev/raw1394 is recreated)?
[03:41] <ootput> fyrestrtr: aptitude purge --purge-unused mydns-mysql, and look at the potential changes
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> shylock: just re-install the drivers.
[03:41] <zaggynl> I installed the mozilla flash plugin, but now it crashes as soon as it has to load the .swf
[03:41] <ootput> er
[03:42] <ootput> gneral: ^^
[03:42] <wastrel> shylock:  when you upgrade your kernel you have to upgrade fglrx.  just re-do whatever you did to get it working in the first place
[03:42] <der0b> mikbrent, you are running that command with sudo right?  otherwise, I don't actually see anything wrong with it
[03:42] <gneral> ootput, :)
[03:42] <regx> hi
[03:42] <der0b> mikbrent, the only thing I would change is smbfs to cifs
[03:42] <ootput> regx: small world
[03:42] <regx> lol i know
[03:42] <regx> i was like uh
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: How did you install it and from where did you get it?
[03:42] <TechnoFan> is here someone how can helps me with nvidia, xorg an dual head configuration?
[03:42] <mikbrent> AH!  schamane. thanks that worked. somehow looking thru the man pages i missed that critcal syntax differance
[03:42] <shylock> fyrestrtr: you mean removing fglrx in synaptic and then installing it again?
[03:42] <regx> dude i didnt know lilo but .. his leaving us makes me sad
[03:42] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, synaptic
[03:42] <gneral> Can i Uninstall Apache , Php etc with apt-get uninstall -purge ?
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> shylock: yes.
[03:43] <kihai> *sigh* I'll give it up and will look in a debian channel...
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:43] <shylock> fyrestrtr: thank you
[03:43] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, libflash-mozplugin
[03:43] <mikbrent> thanks all for the great help as usual
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> gneral: sure, anything that you installed using apt.
[03:43] <erpo> Does totem with the gstreamer backend support DVD navigation?
[03:43] <gneral> really thanks fyrestrtr, you are helpful
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: no.
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> gneral: you are welcome
[03:44] <TechnoFan> how can i change the primary screen in dual head mode?
[03:44] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: it seems that wasn't my problem
[03:44] <daurn> :P
[03:44] <daurn> i already have sound
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: use TwinView with nvidia binary drivers, its very easy :)
[03:44] <daurn> just only half the time going to the correct place.
[03:44] <KenSentMe> fyrestrtr: is there a way to give this device some standard rights?
[03:44] <tomcatt> !bluetooth
[03:44] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: devices don't have rights, what are you trying to do?
[03:44] <tomcatt> !wifi
[03:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <TechnoFan> is that a nvidia config tool?
[03:45] <she_died> question about the LIveCD
[03:45] <TechnoFan> can't i change that in the xorg.conf?
[03:45] <zaggynl> !flash
[03:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:45] <shylock> fyrestrtr: didnt seem to help still getting [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for bla bla
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: no, its a feature of nvidia drivers. Do you already have nvidia drivers installed?
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: a person with a similar problem used that info to lock out the unwanted card, which is why I kept the link
[03:45] <TechnoFan> no i have the nvidia drivers of ubuntu
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> shylock: what's the entire error?
[03:46] <TechnoFan> but dual head works already
[03:46] <shylock> fyrestrtr: wait i post it
[03:46] <TechnoFan> and 3d acceleration too
[03:46] <regx> UGH I LOVE dual screens!
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: are you using xinerama?
[03:46] <regx> :)
[03:46] <TechnoFan> no
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: then what?
[03:46] <KenSentMe> fyrestrtr: the /dev entry i mean. For Kino to use my firewire device the program has to have full rights to /dev/raw1394. This can be accomplished by running Kino as sudo or chmodding /dev/raw1394. But i'm looking for a permanent solution
[03:46] <TechnoFan> nvidia
[03:46] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: its not unwanted - i use them both regulary
[03:46] <TechnoFan> but the ubuntu nvidia drivers
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: are dual screens working in X?
[03:46] <TechnoFan> not the nvidia nvidia drivers
[03:46] <TechnoFan> yes
[03:46] <TechnoFan> and i've configuret it in the xorg.conf
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: using what?
[03:47] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: by default, its using an ancient pci sound card - which i use for a headset & joystick port
[03:47] <TechnoFan> but the wrong screen is the primary screen
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: post your xorg.conf
[03:47] <daurn> but, i want default to be onboard - which is 6 channel and hooked up to speakers
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: you need to edit the udev configuration for that to work permanently.
[03:47] <TechnoFan> how can i post it?
[03:47] <TechnoFan> i don't want to spam
[03:48] <daurn> arg
[03:48] <bibulak> ahoj tak co jak ijete???
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: use a pastebin site.
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[03:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:48] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: now its worse than before
[03:48] <shylock> fyrestrtr:  here is the full errors when starting oo
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: time for me to restart  after my updtae...
[03:48] <harrisR> sorry, connection problems.. so, I cannot op myself if I use ircd-irc2 on my own server?
[03:48] <shylock> fyrestrtr:  get similar messege when trying to run any 3d game
[03:48] <bibulak> hal
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> bibulak: this is an English speaking channel. Please speak English.
[03:49] <bibulak> ok
[03:49] <TechnoFan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23990
[03:49] <harrisR> has anyone here ever set up a chat server?
[03:50] <TechnoFan> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23990
[03:50] <daurn> how do you find a pid?
[03:50] <CromagDK> ps aux
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: is your secondary monitor to the right of the primary one?
[03:50] <CromagDK> or ps
[03:51] <CromagDK> ps aux|grep blah
[03:51] <CromagDK> for specfik stuff
[03:51] <daurn> thanks
[03:51] <TechnoFan> jain, i want to use the one on the right side as primary
[03:51] <daurn> well
[03:51] <daurn> now
[03:51] <daurn> all my sound is going to the wrong soundcard
[03:51] <daurn> joy!
[03:51] <TechnoFan> but at the moment the one on the left side is primary
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: change "Rightof" to "Leftof"
[03:52] <RaggedJack> I can not get the sun jre to install I have uncommented the most of the extra things in the sources.list doing an sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre  the error I get it E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre everywhere I have looked says that this should work.
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: change "RightOf" to "LeftOf"
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> RaggedJack: run sudo apt-get update first.
[03:52] <TechnoFan> than the left is still primary but the screen on the right show the picture on the left of the other screen
[03:52] <RaggedJack> did that
[03:52] <CromagDK> RaggedJack: repos
[03:53] <CromagDK> multiverse universe
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> RaggedJack: enable universe and multiverse.
[03:53] <CromagDK> !java
[03:53] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:53] <TechnoFan> if i move the mouse to the left it returns on the right screen...
[03:53] <TechnoFan> clear?
[03:53] <CromagDK> in sources.list
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> TechnoFan: sorry? You want the primary monitor to be on the right, correct?
[03:53] <CromagDK> then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:53] <terlmann> Nthdegree?
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> ahh .. got to go :)
[03:53] <TechnoFan> i want to have my flatscreen as primary
[03:54] <TechnoFan> but at the moment my crt is primary
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> hopefully someone else can help you -- cheers.
[03:54] <RaggedJack> the only 2 I don't have un commented are these # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:54] <RaggedJack> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:56] <Farine11i> Hello all!
[03:56] <CromagDK> RaggedJack: you need multiverse to
[03:56] <TeePOG> afternoon all
[03:57] <Marlun> Ok I've tried starting in safe graphics mode and changing the resolution with F4 before starting but the resolution is still at 640x480 and I want something more like 1680x1050. I can't install Ubuntu! =(
[03:57] <Z_God> how do I change the locale in ubuntu?
[03:57] <Z_God> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't seem to work
[03:58] <bionoid> Z_God: apt-get install localeconf && localeconf
[03:59] <daurn> well
[03:59] <Farine11i> Someone have problem with gaim update, to login?
[03:59] <daurn> thanks ALOT jackSparrow, i now have no sound
[04:00] <daurn> thanks ALOT jackSparrow, i now have no sound
[04:00] <Farine11i> I tried to update gaim, after in beta version don't work... i remove, but now the 1.5 version send me a SSL error. How i can fix it?
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Just finished my reboot...
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: What exactly did you do?
[04:01] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: fix it!!!
[04:01] <daurn> the stuff in that guide
[04:01] <Z_God> bionoid: thanks a lot, that seems to have done the trick :)
[04:01] <kippi> hey
[04:01] <daurn> now, all sound is through the line out port of he soundcard i don't use
[04:01] <she_died> daurn needs to take a chill pill
[04:01] <daurn> and all the sound guis in ubuntu don't remeber changes
[04:02] <Tarnsman> I have a problem in dapper with kernel 2.6.15-27-686, it seems it's corrupting somehow my partition table
[04:02] <kippi> I am having real problems installing libicu28 could someone help me out?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: Post your gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf  to the pastebin
[04:02] <regx> i want to do somthing interesting/fun on linux :( but i cant think of anything
[04:02] <der0b> kippi, ask your questionm or explain the issue with as much detail as possible
[04:04] <daurn> http://pastebin.ca/176191
[04:05] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: reading now...
[04:06] <darinlh> Tarnsman, same issue here partion not loadable after upgrade
[04:06] <daurn> be quick :S - i'm trying to watch tv
[04:06] <kenkku> is there a way to force a greater resolution than the dialog has?
[04:06] <daurn> now without sound
[04:06] <daurn> - cept through my $1.50 earpice
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I take it you already tried the default and went back and changed it ti mixer?
[04:06] <lesshaste>  how do I manually remove a folder from thunderbird? I seem to have a mail folder with no actual mail file associated with it
[04:06] <lesshaste>  so when I try to delete it it says it can't file the file to delete
[04:06] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[04:07] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: i also tried as 1
[04:07] <exmethix> hey guys
[04:07] <exmethix> i have a question
[04:07] <exmethix> i installed the k7 kernel
[04:07] <daurn> worse thing is that sound dialogues are disabled/don't remeber setting
[04:07] <exmethix> and now i have problems with my fglrx and other kernel depending programms
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: ls your etc/esound folder
[04:07] <daurn> i just want it back to how it was
[04:07] <kenkku> hmm
[04:07] <kenkku> how can I set the resolution manually?
[04:08] <exmethix> is it possible to take an other kernel jutst within the installation of ubuntu dapper?
[04:08] <daurn> ./etc/esound$ ls
[04:08] <daurn> esd.conf  esd.conf~
[04:08] <lilbit> how close is debian to ubuntu?  server wise
[04:08] <qmf> hi guys, i've got a bit of a problem after installing fglrx, anything that is pure white glitches
[04:08] <exmethix> i have not tried the alternate cd jet... ist it possible with it? i just used the desktop cd bevore
[04:08] <Samuli^> kenkku, preferences/screen resolution doesn't work?
[04:08] <kenkku> Samuli^: there's only default and a smaller one
[04:08] <lilbit> if I try and set up a debian server, will it almost be the same?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: the second one is your backup bafore you made changes.
[04:08] <lilbit> do you have to sudo in debian?
[04:09] <kenkku> and they're way too small to install (well, it's xubuntu but I need to have a bigger resolution anyway so thought you could help)
[04:09] <Samuli^> kenkku, you need to add modelines to your xorg.conf then.
[04:09] <kenkku> Samuli^: well, I'm running xubuntu.. I got some answers on the other channel though
[04:09] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow: so what do i do?
[04:09] <Samuli^> kenkku, doesn't matter what you're running. the X is the same.
[04:09] <daurn> i need step by step
[04:10] <kenkku> Samuli^: ok. but I'm in the live cd environment, so..
[04:10] <Samuli^> kenkku, ah, ok.
[04:10] <kenkku> well, I'm trying something now
[04:10] <exmethix> does anydody have an idea?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: what did you have for your asound.conf
[04:11] <Samuli^> kenkku, hmm. I wonder if you can quit X dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then start X again in live-cd.
[04:11] <daurn> i need guide link again
[04:11] <scrp> sooo, is anyone good with samba ? :O i need to access a shared folder on a Windows box
[04:11] <Samuli^> kenkku, or just do that and modify the xorg.conf. I think it's loaded on a ram drive so it might just be possible.
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: ls etc and save a backup of your asound.conf~
[04:12] <darinlh> anyone else besides Tarnsman and I having an issue with partition tables after upgrade?
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: beofre you make any more changes
[04:12] <PacketScan> scrp, smbclient
[04:12] <bionoid> scrp: smbclient or mount
[04:12] <scrp> PacketScan: hmh i was trying to use smbmount
[04:12] <daurn> Jack_Sparrow:  before i had no asound.conf
[04:12] <PacketScan> scrp, did you specify the work group?
[04:12] <bionoid> scrp: there is no smbmount (is there?) - mount -t cifs -ousername=user,password=pass //server/folder /local/folder
[04:13] <Tarnsman> darinlh, I'm looking into udev log, the ide driver listed in /dev/.udev/failed/
[04:14] <Tarnsman> darinlh, which sort of HW do you have?
[04:14] <darinlh> Tarnsman, currently running fsck on my drive now and not seing anything I will check udev when it is done (huge drive)
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: I still wanted you to have a copy handy before changes.
[04:14] <scrp> PacketScan: mmh no :P
[04:14] <PacketScan> mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[04:15] <daurn> ok
[04:15] <daurn> don
[04:15] <daurn> now what?
[04:15] <scrp> PacketScan: i was trying something like, smbmount //172.23.11.15/c/downloads/ /mnt/unf
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: You have sound but only from your sline out from one of two sound cards..?
[04:15] <darinlh> Tarnsman, amd with two maxtor drives second is the failed one 200 gig ext2
[04:15] <scrp> PacketScan: but it always tells me that there is no share
[04:16] <daurn> correct
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: THe link I need is waiting for ubuntu wiki to update..
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: It will be a minute
[04:17] <daurn> :S
[04:17] <wikijeff> If I have a wireless interface and an ethernet interface, is there a way to tell Ubuntu to only use the wireless interface if the ethernet interface isn't connected or isn't working??
[04:17] <Tarnsman> ext2? thus isn't ext3, I have a compaq nx6110, I can't remember the disk vendor, however
[04:18] <Tarnsman> kernel says it's a "ST94813A, ATA DISK drive"
[04:18] <darinlh> Tarnsman, misquote, it is ext3
[04:18] <Tarnsman> ah ok
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> im back
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1448/debianht8.jpg
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> :\
[04:18] <c0nfidencal> doesnt help
[04:19] <darinlh> Tarnsman, typing on laptap :)   (good cover :)
[04:19] <Tarnsman> but I think is something lower-level
[04:19] <c0nfidencal> any ideas? ;>
[04:19] <der0b> scrp, so you have the C drive shared as c or are you trying to connect to a default/admin share?  if you're trying to connect to the admin share, it would be c$ not c
[04:20] <Tarnsman> I told you, first simptoms where beein slow in the 'mounting root filesystem'
[04:20] <scrp> der0b: im not trying to access the root (c:) just a folder on the network, like c:\downloads\
[04:20] <Tarnsman> and failing in "loading hardware drivers"
[04:20] <darinlh> Tarnsman, I did find reference to an old bug that mentions ro kernels and grub but fix didn't work for me
[04:20] <omar> Hello guys, I am pretty new in Linux. I have one machine in Linux and another in Windows, and I would like to connect them , with samba or something else useful. How to configure it  pls
[04:21] <wikijeff> Anyone?
[04:21] <der0b> scrp, so have you shared the c:\downloads folder?  if yes it would be //machineip/downloads (you don't need the c if you shared the downloads folder)
[04:21] <go_> hi. is there any tool in ubuntu, to tell me what kind of grafic card is installed in my computer?
[04:21] <c0nfidencal> go_ this is not ubuntu
[04:21] <c0nfidencal> read topic
[04:21] <Tarnsman> darinlh, could you share the reference? but if its old....
[04:21] <unplugd> I'm trying to start freeradius, but the first error that appears is: rlm_sql (sql): Make sure it (and all its dependent libraries) are in the search path of your system ld.
[04:21] <kippi> I am having real problems installing libicu28 could someone help me out?
[04:21] <Schamane> go_: just type lspci -v
[04:21] <darinlh> Tarnsman, that is what this one is reporting
[04:22] <darinlh> Tarnsman, one sec let me find it again
[04:22] <Tarnsman> well, share it anyway:)
[04:22] <c0nfidencal> any ideas about my non module loading netinstall cd? -> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1448/debianht8.jpg
[04:22] <c0nfidencal> :|
[04:22] <Tarnsman> ok
[04:22] <go_> Schamane: thanx!
[04:22] <bionoid> scrp: Can you access this shared folder from a different windows computer?
[04:22] <wikijeff> omar: go to nautilus (open up a folder) and type smb://windows.ip.address
[04:22] <Schamane> go_: no prob
[04:22] <Sanne> omar: found this for you, might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:22] <scrp> bionoid: yup
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: http://pastebin.ca/176198   is a new post
[04:23] <wikijeff> omar: make sure you have file sharing enabled on windows of course
[04:23] <GNAM> PYTHON 2.5 FINAL       O U T !!!
[04:23] <zmeiat_joro> Certainly a lot of peolpe with questions in here. I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a CD, and after I pick "Start or Install Ubuntu" the splash screen appears, does its thing, and then disappears, leaivng only a blinking cursor. Each time I've waited up to ten minutes for something to happen next. What could the problem be?
[04:23] <bionoid> scrp: mount -t cifs -o username=user,password=pass //1.2.3.4/folder_name /local/folder works every time I try it... (1.2.3.4, obviously, being the IP address of the machine with a shared folder.)
[04:23] <omar> wikijeff: what's nautilus
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> daurn: remove the asound you created.. but save the backup... still waiting for that page I want.
[04:24] <Schamane> zmeiat_joro: you can just do the cd test
[04:24] <der0b> zmeiat_joro, are you sure the media is good?  did you check the md5sums when you downloaded the iso?
[04:24] <zmeiat_joro> Schmane: the result is the same
[04:24] <bionoid> scrp: What Windows version are you sharing on?
[04:24] <scrp> bionoid: always the same error, running winxp
[04:24] <scrp> 14467: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[04:24] <scrp> SMB connection failed
[04:24] <Schamane> zmeiat_joro: seems like an burn failure
[04:24] <wikijeff> omar: the equivalent of explorer for linux, when you look at your files in a folder you're using nautilus
[04:25] <bionoid> scrp: Is there a space in the share name?
[04:25] <c0nfidencal> any ideas about my non module loading netinstall cd? -> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1448/debianht8.jpg ;|x
[04:25] <zmeiat_joro> hm, I'll check the iso again
[04:25] <scrp> bionoid: nop
[04:25] <scrp> bionoid: this is really weird
[04:26] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: whats the prob? it freezes?
[04:26] <c0nfidencal> yes
[04:26] <c0nfidencal> doesnt do anything ;x
[04:26] <wikijeff> omar: also checkout Sanne's link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:26] <Sanne> zmeiat_joro: another option is trying the alternate cd. It's not a live cd and comes with a text based installed, but it's also not difficult. Some people have more luck with this one.
[04:26] <jbirdAngel> Hello, the 2 things that i have found personally that are barriers to linux over windows, are legal multimedia, and understanding whats going on, on the surface i can figure things out, but then underneath i cant, like i know where to find something on windows, under C:/..../program files/... is there a tutorial somewhere that would help me to understand how linux works that part, like...
[04:26] <jbirdAngel> ...soemthing easy and not very long :)
[04:26] <der0b> scrp, can you browse the shares on the windows machine with nautilus?
[04:26] <darinlh> Tarnsman, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/21759
[04:26] <daurnimator> yay
[04:26] <scrp> der0b: nautilus?
[04:26] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow:  i fixed it by deleting asound.conf
[04:27] <Tarnsman> 10q darinlh
[04:27] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: that problem i had sometimes with interrupts
[04:27] <Tarnsman> reading
[04:27] <scrp> der0b: w00t a file explorer
[04:27] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, interrupts?
[04:27] <der0b> scrp, press alt+f2, in the box enter smb://<ipaddress>
[04:27] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: irq
[04:27] <daurnimator> oh
[04:27] <daurnimator> damn
[04:27] <usr78956> does the live cd have a text only install script or a verbose install so i can see where its failing i keep trying to install but it freezes at 69% i have been using mepis 6  live and installed works fine on it but i cant install ubuntu
[04:27] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: i didn't
[04:27] <daurnimator> :P
[04:27] <c0nfidencal> how do i fix it
[04:27] <bionoid> scrp: Indeed that seems strange.. For the sake of testing, did you disable the windows firewall?
[04:28] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: how much ide drives are built in?
[04:28] <der0b> scrp, replace <ipaddress> with the ip of the windows machine.  if all goes well, you should be able to see the shared folders on the win box
[04:28] <c0nfidencal> hm
[04:28] <c0nfidencal> built in or using?
[04:28] <Schamane> built in
[04:28] <c0nfidencal> sec
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> daurnimator: See the link to a new http://pastebin.ca/176198
[04:28] <Schamane> and using
[04:28] <Tarnsman> darinlh, I fail to see how's related to my problem...
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: hah!
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: well i see the share now, in nautilus
[04:29] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: whats different?
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: just took a long time to run
[04:29] <der0b> scrp, what's it called?
[04:29] <scrp> der0b: called mp3..
[04:29] <der0b> scrp, now mount that share :)
[04:29] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, i dunno if this is what u asked for, but "- Can connect up to 4 IDE devices"
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> guess not
[04:30] <scrp> der0b: thanks mate :)
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> and im using only 1 :) dvdrw..
[04:30] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: and how much ARE connected?
[04:30] <scrp> der0b: one question, is there no way to get rid of the password prompt when using smbmount ?
[04:30] <Schamane> how is your hdd connected?
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> 2x sata 2 hdd's
[04:30] <c0nfidencal> ehum
[04:30] <Schamane> hm
[04:31] <c0nfidencal> no raid
[04:31] <Schamane> can you put the dvdrw on the other ide port for testings?
[04:31] <c0nfidencal> hm
[04:31] <der0b> scrp, no prob, glad to help..  I would mount with 'sudo mount -t cifs //ip/mp3 /mount/point -o guest'
[04:31] <c0nfidencal> u think it can help? :x
[04:32] <der0b> scrp, if the share is set to allow guest access the mount command I just entered will get you goin
[04:32] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: im not sure, i would just connect as less as possible and change the ports
[04:32] <Schamane> if it still doesnt work, i would try to play around with the irq and interrupt in BIOS
[04:32] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, yes, i can.. but dunno if it will help :(
[04:32] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, all other linux distro's i used so far - no problem
[04:33] <der0b> scrp, in case you're interested, cifs is similar to smbfs but superior
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> no problems*
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> is the last example (3) at http://effbot.org/librarybook/ftplib.htm really a full rogram for uploadding files? seems too short, too easy :)
[04:33] <Schamane> just one dvdrw and one hdd should be enough
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> oops
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> wrong room
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> sorry
[04:33] <scrp> der0b: i see :)
[04:33] <scrp> der0b: but the password prompt always comes back
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> not enough :) second one is for storage
[04:33] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow:  ??? you there?
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> wait a sec
[04:33] <robby> !w32codec
[04:33] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: i had this prob with an thin client at work
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> ill try take a screen of my case
[04:33] <c0nfidencal> might help somehow ^^
[04:33] <robby> !restricted
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: does the cd work on other pc?
[04:34] <c0nfidencal> i dont have other pc
[04:34] <Schamane> hm
[04:34] <c0nfidencal> :x
[04:34] <robby> yarr me mateys
[04:34] <der0b> scrp, do you have control over the windows machine?  if yes, you can change the share so that guests have access (only do this if you know nobody is going to be mucking about on your private network)
[04:34] <Tarnsman> darinlh? still there?
[04:35] <sonium> my LVM doesn't work anymore with kernel*27
[04:35] <KenSentMe> jbirdAngel: for an introduction to linux you can look here at the filsystem structure: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview and at http://help.ubuntu.com for more info on doing things on ubuntu
[04:35] <AndroidData> hello. how do I find out which files are taking up the most space on my HD?
[04:35] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, sec.. 2 pics comming up soon :)
[04:35] <sonium> does anyone else have the same problem?
[04:35] <Alan__> Is there any good groupware apps with good guides for installing on ubuntu?
[04:35] <scrp> Ubuntu rules.
[04:35] <Alan__> by apps i mean server side
[04:35] <jbirdAngel> KenSentMe: thanks
[04:35] <scrp> only thing Linux needs now is more games published for it
[04:36] <Schamane> scrp: ack
[04:36] <KenSentMe> jbirdAngel: also the wiki on http://wiki.ubuntu.com has a lot of info
[04:36] <Tarnsman> sonium, similar problem (may be) here
[04:36] <darinlh> Tarnsman, yes still trying to find  an answer
[04:36] <AndroidData> if you can get BYOND running on it you have lots of games
[04:36] <AndroidData> and you can make your own
[04:36] <scrp> Schamane: it has to be done so the rest of the world can stop using Wintendo
[04:36] <AndroidData> but it's very difficult and often does not work
[04:36] <Schamane> AndroidData: and it sucks
[04:36] <jbirdAngel> KenSentMe: okay thanks
[04:37] <AndroidData> aww
[04:37] <AndroidData> have a heart! ^.^
[04:37] <darinlh> Tarnsman, this is my primary work box needs to be up
[04:37] <AndroidData> <_< how do I check the top 10 files with the most size?
[04:37] <Tarnsman> same problem here darinlh
[04:37] <mcfly2> writes to my thumb drive are lost when the thumb drive is pulled and reinserted, any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[04:37] <Tarnsman> I also would like to recover data lost on a previous HD
[04:37] <c0nfidencal> Schamane, hdd's connected correctly, right? -> http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5039/debiansbt3.jpg
[04:38] <Bonaldo2000> can anyone help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259609
[04:38] <dhloc> someone speak italian?
[04:38] <AndroidData> is there any way of resizing a partition without destroying the files on it?
[04:38] <Tarnsman> io dhloc
[04:38] <Schamane> c0nfidencal: thats not the problem if i talk about irq an interrupts
[04:38] <sonium> AndroidData: depends on the partition type
[04:38] <c0nfidencal> anywayz..
[04:38] <c0nfidencal> eh
[04:38] <idefix_> did you ever encounter this? you minimize a window and it goes to the bottom right somewhere in your panel and you cannot select it anymore, what's wrong?
[04:38] <mcfly2> any files moved to my thumb drive disappear when the drive is pulled and reinserted, any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[04:38] <darinlh> Tarnsman, check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-185396.html
[04:39] <omar> der0b: hello , I was reading what you talk to scrp, I am trying to open a sharing folder in windows, but the msg in Alt-F2 is "folder not found
[04:39] <idefix_> please help me!
[04:39] <sonium> AndroidData: check out gparted
[04:39] <der0b> omar, what exactly did you enter in the run box?
[04:40] <omar> smb://192.168.1.20
[04:40] <scrp> omar: the trick was to skip the full path, i.e. i was sharing c:\downloads\mp3 so instead of typing mount -t cifs //ip/c/downloads/mp3  i type, mount -t cifs //ip/mp3
[04:40] <kenkku> anyone have any idea how I could force a resolution
[04:40] <omar> der0b: smb://192.168.1.20
[04:40] <fredl> hi guys, I installed network-manager/network-manager-gnome but it does not see any of my network interfaces. Does this need extra configuration??
[04:40] <der0b> omar, and nothing came up at all?  what was the exact error?
[04:40] <fredl> I mean, I use an aironet, if it can't even detect that automatically, what good is it??
[04:40] <omar> der0b: El archivo o carpeta smb://192.168.1.20/ no existe.
[04:40] <zaggynl> hamachi isn't in the rep? :(
[04:41] <omar> der0b: the file or directory doen's exist
[04:41] <der0b> omar, do you have admin access to the windows machine?  if yes, the first step is to temporarily disable the windows firewall
[04:41] <idefix_> normally your apps are supposed to appear somewhere in the panel, no?
[04:42] <darinlh> Tarnsman, do you have two hd's connected to motherboard on same cable?
[04:42] <idefix_> what could be the reason they're gone?
[04:42] <fredl> anybody here using network-manager on a laptop with wireless card?
[04:42] <omar> der0b: I did it and I have still the error
[04:42] <Bonaldo2000> Please help! How come I have to enable/disable my ntfs harddisks when using ntfs-3g to get it to read filenames with danish letters?
[04:42] <Tarnsman> no darinlh, I told you, it's a laptop
[04:42] <Bonaldo2000> disable/enable I mean
[04:42] <Tarnsman> only one hd
[04:43] <Tarnsman> there is a cd driver on the same cable however
[04:43] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: ???
[04:43] <der0b> omar, on the windows machine, if you enter \\127.0.0.1 into the run box, what happens?
[04:43] <darinlh> Tarnsman, sorry must have missed that
[04:44] <mcfly2> \quit
[04:44] <Tarnsman> never mind darinlh, mee to I'mlooking to doc, besides irc
[04:44] <reinhard__> hello, could someone help me, changing the heartrate (frequency) that ist used during the login (gdmscreen)?
[04:44] <darinlh> Tarnsman, I will try to switch assignments on my box and see if that fixes it, brb
[04:45] <HeppyCat> good morning channel
[04:45] <reinhard__> after logging in i am able to change it thats fine, but i like the frequency also be used in gdm
[04:45] <reinhard__> i use dapper
[04:46] <scrp> jesus what would i do without VLC player :)
[04:46] <fredl> Hrmm
[04:46] <Alan__> take that as a no then
[04:46] <der0b> scrp, you'd use mplayer :P
[04:46] <Justy> all: hello
[04:46] <scrp> der0b: im trying to play some mp3s using the default players in ubuntu
[04:46] <scrp> der0b: totally not going well
[04:46] <der0b> omar you still around?
[04:46] <codecaine> When I play games like nessus on ubuntu my refresh rate is not 60 and I get invalid refreshrate warning box on my screen
[04:47] <der0b> what's happening scrp?
[04:47] <Mjolinor> got a modules problem. Ubuntu updated this morning and the last few days I spent getting lirc to work
[04:47] <codecaine> anybody know how to get it so its the refresh rate as my desktop?
[04:47] <scrp> der0b: says might be a problem with decoders or something
[04:47] <Mjolinor> . the lirc modules are in /lib/modules/2.6.15.26-686/misc and now my modules are in /lib/modules/2.6.15.27-686 with no misc directory and I can't find the modules so lirc doesnt work.
[04:47] <Justy> I have deleted my wirless driver somehow with mistake unfortunately
[04:47] <der0b> scrp, have you followed the restrictedformats page on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:47] <Justy> From where and how can I install my driver?
[04:47] <Mjolinor> how do I point it at the modules, copying them to the -27 directory doesnt work
[04:47] <AndroidData> I think this is is a computer wioth a 512 RAM card into it. I have two 256 MB RAM cards.
[04:47] <omar> der0b: yes , I see everything shared
[04:47] <Justy> Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[04:47] <scrp> der0b: nop, maybe i should, aye? :)
[04:48] <NET||abuse> anyone know the difference between the drivers "ati" and "radeon" ???
[04:48] <AndroidData> I'd like to up this to 1024 if possible. Would it be wise?
[04:48] <livre> existe alguem que fale portugues ai
[04:48] <scrp> der0b: i havent read anything about ubuntu yet, just trying to get used to this new enviroment
[04:48] <scrp> der0b: actually this is my first time running X in linux overall, lol
[04:48] <der0b> scrp, go for it!  you get some nice experience with the command line, you get everything you need for multimedia installed and you'll be happy
[04:48] <PMantis> I have an HP Pavilion laptop.. fairly new. with Dapper on it, the battery sometimes says "98%, 5 minutes left" or "98%, 42 hours, 18 minutes left"... the time estimate is WAAAAAAY off most of the time. What gives?
[04:48] <Justy> NET||abuse : radeon is a model of ati
[04:48] <scrp> der0b: i used to run Gentoo on all my boxes, usually as servers only
[04:48] <Justy> all: hello
[04:48] <Justy> I have deleted my wirless driver somehow with mistake unfortunately
[04:48] <Justy> From where and how can I install my driver?
[04:48] <Justy> Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[04:49] <scrp> der0b: well, i wish i had my command line :(
[04:49] <NET||abuse> Justy: yeh, i know the model name, but the drivers seem to work equally well with no change other thant he driver directive in my conf file.. do the driver names have any bareing?
[04:49] <scrp> der0b: my consoles are gone blank, and *nobody* knows why
[04:49] <livre> fala ia renato
[04:49] <zax1> is there a thunderbird channel on freenode
[04:49] <scrp> der0b: but where is that guide you speak of :o
[04:49] <Justy> NET||abuse: sorry i am a newbie ...
[04:49] <der0b> ok Omar, you really seem to be having a firewall problem.  if you can see that shares from the local machine but not from the network that's all I can tell you..  you need to allow for file and printer sharing in xp
[04:49] <Justy> NET||abuse: i cant help you
[04:49] <NET||abuse> Justy: :) no worries mate :)
[04:49] <der0b> one sec scrp
[04:49] <Justy> lol
[04:50] <Justy> all: hello
[04:50] <Justy> I have deleted my wirless driver somehow with mistake unfortunately
[04:50] <Justy> From where and how can I install my driver?
[04:50] <der0b> !restricted
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <Justy> Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[04:50] <NET||abuse> Justy: umm, try fixing the driver package?
[04:50] <der0b> scrp, you see that?
[04:50] <Justy> NET||abuse: how?
[04:50] <Carlosh> Hello. I have a problem. I don't actually know is it's system's bug or xmms's. So. I think that the the video lags a bit compared to sound. It actually very well can be seen with xmms's visualition. Do you tink this is a Ubuntu or xmmm's problem?
[04:50] <Justy> NET||abuse: as i said so :) i am a newbie
[04:51] <omar> der0b: I opened a file, thanx, but I wanna share files, I mean I wanna move some files to that machine, but is working
[04:51] <NET||abuse> Justy: well you have the machine on network access over hardwire for now yeh?#
[04:52] <Justy> NET||abuse: yes i am on an network via LAN which has an access to internet
[04:52] <NET||abuse> Justy: you should be able to repair the pacakge, or else purge it and re-instsall
[04:52] <Justy> NET||abuse: ok, but how =)
[04:52] <der0b> omar, so you want to create a share on the ubuntu machine?
[04:52] <NET||abuse> dpkg -l | grep wireless
[04:52] <NET||abuse> find the exact name of hte drivers package
[04:52] <der0b> scrp, you still here?
[04:53] <NET||abuse> then dpkg --purge <package name>
[04:53] <omar> der0b: I wanna move my files to the windows shared directory
[04:53] <NET||abuse> then reinstall it, with sudo apt-get install <package name>
[04:53] <scrp> der0b: yea, sorry was afk a bit
[04:53] <PM1> i would like to install the latest kernel for dapper. can i install the latest kernel edgy has?
[04:53] <scrp> ah, i saw that, from ubotu
[04:53] <scrp> der0b: thanks mate
[04:53] <moon-xsp> hi try it
[04:53] <der0b> scrp, alt+f2, enter gnome-terminal,
[04:53] <der0b> (no comma)
[04:53] <ubuntu> hi guys
[04:54] <der0b> so omar, you can see the windows shares now?
[04:54] <Justy> NET||abuse, there is "wireless-tools"  : Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extens
[04:54] <Justy> NET||abuse,  as it says so
[04:54] <Justy> NET||abuse, and wlassistant
[04:54] <ubuntu> any1 here tried setting up snort here/
[04:54] <fredl> how does NetworkManager get started up? I don't find it in any rc files
[04:54] <NET||abuse> Justy: nah, they're not the drivers
[04:54] <omar> der0b: Not, I can open a specific file , but I can't see anything
[04:54] <scrp> der0b: yea i can open terminals, but what i really want is my consoles
[04:54] <NET||abuse> try dpkg -l | grep intel
[04:54] <omar> yet
[04:55] <ubuntu> fredl,  /etc/init.d/networking ??
[04:55] <Justy> PPP dialer... :(
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: like, (CTRL)ALT+F1...F2 etc
[04:55] <der0b> scrp, ctrl+alt+f1 not working?
[04:55] <NET||abuse> hmm, not sure, look up in google, ubuntu intel <your chipset name>
[04:55] <fredl> ubuntu, nope. The NetworkManager daemon
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: it "works," but gives me a blank screen
[04:55] <der0b> odd
[04:55] <NET||abuse> Justy: i'm afraid i've not worked with the intel wireless chip set at all
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: i can even login THROUGH the blank screen, but i dont see anything
[04:55] <ubuntu> fredl,  try this , as rot type network-admin
[04:55] <scrp> der0b: odd indeed, nobody knows why lol
[04:56] <ubuntu> root*
[04:56] <fredl> ubuntu, network-manager, not network-admin :)
[04:56] <der0b> omar, you can open a file from the windows share but you can't view the windows shares in nautilus?
[04:56] <fredl> ubuntu, network-manager is supposed to automatically detect wireless networks.
[04:56] <ubuntu> i know
[04:57] <omar> der0b: But I need to move some files to the shared windows folder
[04:57] <HeppyCat> hello Nixer
[04:57] <fredl> ubuntu, ok, sorry for misunderstanding you then, lemme start up network-admion
[04:58] <der0b> omar, I first need to understand how you're opening a file in the windows share without being able to see it (via nautilus or the command line)
[04:58] <fredl> ubuntu, so where in network-admin do I find anything about how NetworkManager is started up?
[04:58] <Alan__> is egroupware any good?
[04:58] <ubuntu> u just have to enable ur wifi right?
[04:58] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so haw can i install it?
[04:58] <omar> der0b: I write this: smb://192.168.1.20/trc/usando-samba.pdf
[04:58] <ubuntu> do u see ur connection there?
[04:58] <Alan__> any ubuntu dapper install guides for it?
[04:58] <PMantis> Justy, Try: dpkg -S ipw2200.ko
[04:58] <scrp> fredl: is there any way to make ubuntu detect my wireless card? :o
[04:58] <ubuntu> Alan__,  for what/
[04:58] <zmo> hi
[04:58] <Alan__> egroupware
[04:58] <fredl> ubuntu, yes I do. that's been there forever. But it doesn't mention anything about network-manager
[04:59] <zmo> how can I change what I control with the keyboard shortcut increase/decrease/mute volume ?
[04:59] <fredl> scrp, dunno, what card do you have?
[04:59] <ubuntu> fredl,  clik on ur connection, there and choose activate
[04:59] <zmo> the shorcut works right, but on the wrong soundcard's mixer
[04:59] <diabl1> how to start service dns?
[04:59] <der0b> ok omar, have you tried mounting (mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc /mount/point) that share?
[04:59] <Justy> PMantis, thanks for help :). it worked and printed those outputs
[04:59] <zmo> and I dunno what manages it
[05:00] <der0b> omar, you need to add a sudo to that command
[05:00] <fredl> ubuntu, I know, I'm talking over the connection right now. I think you're misunderstanding me...
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, linux-image-2.6.15-26-386: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, linux-image-2.6.15-27-386: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko
[05:00] <ubuntu> i guess, i'm sorry
[05:00] <PMantis> Justy, Whoah, holdon... :)
[05:00] <ubuntu> :(
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, lol =)
[05:00] <PMantis> Justy, Only twolines of output?
[05:00] <Justy> PMantis, yes those 2 lines i typed above
[05:01] <fredl> ubuntu, my aironet card works fine, there's no problem there. But recently some news has been released about network-manager, I guess it's a tool that comes from Fedora. It should detect multiple wireless networks and give you a choice which one to connect to
[05:01] <calamari> hi
[05:01] <diabl1> I need help with dns
[05:01] <PMantis> Justy, ok, try: apt-get --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:01] <fredl> ubuntu, don't worry about it :) you try :)
[05:01] <silent_scream> how do i force terminate amsn ?? ? ?? ? ??
[05:01] <darinlh> anyone know what patches/upgrades went out yesterday?
[05:01] <zaggynl> anyone familiar with getting hamachi to work?
[05:01] <diabl1> howto start service dns?
[05:01] <ubuntu> fredl,  i dont think there is anything like network -manager on ubuntu
[05:01] <ubuntu> just network-admin to setup ur connection
[05:01] <fredl> ubuntu, yes there is :) apt-get install network-manager
[05:02] <Justy> PMantis, are you sure the syntax is correct?
[05:02] <ubuntu> aah ok
[05:02] <ubuntu> let me chk, thanks
[05:02] <Justy> PMantis, the output is E: Invalid operation linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:02] <fredl> ubuntu, it actually starts up a daemon called NetworkManager and it listens to wireless interface (as well as wired interfaces for that matter) for network SID's
[05:02] <calamari> I've installed ubuntu on my dad's computer, he loves it, but he also likes DOS, and he would like to boot into DOS then load linux from there.  Can loadlin be used to boot ubuntu?  Anyone done this?
[05:03] <PMantis> Justy, Ahh, sorry... try: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:03] <ubuntu> calamari,  u mean like dualboot?
[05:03] <der0b>  Justy sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:03] <fredl> ubuntu, problem is that the NetworkManager daemon doesn't see my card :/
[05:03] <omar> der0b: I worte my home/user folder and I can't see my old files, eventhough I see the shared folder
[05:03] <calamari> ubuntu: nope
[05:03] <Justy> PMantis, when i try sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-27-386, the output is "linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[05:03] <omar> der0b: How to unmount
[05:03] <ubuntu> fredl,  i c
[05:03] <fredl> ubuntu, despite it being an aironet card.
[05:03] <PMantis> Justy, Oh, right... might need sudo. lol... I just usually sudo to root before doting anyhting.
[05:03] <ubuntu> fredl, ndiswraooer?
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis,  lol =)
[05:04] <ubuntu> ndiswrapper*
[05:04] <der0b> omar, sudo umount //<ip>/trc
[05:04] <fredl> ubuntu, no, the aironet is recognized natively by Linux
[05:04] <PMantis> Justy, You last command needed the --reinstall added.
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, it now finished proccessing
[05:04] <calamari> ubuntu: there is a program called loadlin.exe that can boot a kernel.. but I've never tried it with Ubuntu and wanted to see if it would even work
[05:04] <fredl> ubuntu, which was a good reason to purchase it.
[05:04] <ubuntu> if it wont, y not give that a try?
[05:04] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so haw can i install it?
[05:04] <Davo_Dinkum> bye
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, and a pop-up! " you need to restart system"
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, and others :) thanks!
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari: we have dosemu
[05:04] <PMantis> Justy, Try: modprobe ipw2200
[05:04] <Justy> PMantis, hope it will work lol
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !dosemu
[05:05] <ubuntu> calamari, oh ok, never played with it
[05:05] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB
[05:05] <ubuntu> sorry
[05:05] <der0b> omar, to mount it to your home folder /trc do this: mkdir ~/trc, then sudo mount -t cifs //<ip>/trc /home/<username>/trc
[05:05] <omar> der0b:  umount //192.168.1.20/trc
[05:05] <Justy> PMantis, yay worked!
[05:05] <calamari> Jack_Sparrow: hehe.. he wants to boot into DOS first, because it boots very fast and he can instantly run his dos apps
[05:05] <der0b> omar, yes, but sudo that
[05:05] <PMantis> Justy, :-D
[05:05] <omar> der0b:  I did that and it works, but my old files are not there anymore???
[05:05] <Ropechoborra> I want to add a new user that only has access to his own home.. how can i do?
[05:06] <calamari> never mind.. I'll just experiment with it and see if I can get it to work
[05:06] <Justy> PMantis, now let's solve my WPA problem =)
[05:06] <PMantis> hah
[05:06] <PMantis> Justy, try network-manager... worked great for me
[05:06] <ubuntu> PMantis, ur good :)
[05:06] <der0b> go to a command line, enter cd /tmp, then umount the share and check your home folder again
[05:06] <der0b> omar, go to a command line, enter cd /tmp, then umount the share and check your home folder again
[05:06] <Justy> doesn't for me :( it just shows LAN
[05:06] <scrp> yea, error trying to install gstreamer-ugly-multiverse
[05:06] <codecaine> how can you install windows appz on ubuntu?
[05:07] <Justy> but anyways i will reisntall nm and restart
[05:07] <codecaine> that uses a installer
[05:07] <PMantis> wpa-supplicant without network-manager is a pain
[05:07] <ubuntu> codecaine,  wine?
[05:07] <Justy> wpa-supp is also installed
[05:07] <codecaine> wine just execute a program
[05:07] <Justy> PMantis, brb =)
[05:07] <PMantis> Justy, Try to restart dbus, then see if network manager sees wireless
[05:07] <Justy> PMantis, how?
[05:07] <philip> codecaine, wine will install it too
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari: My Ubuntu boots up in 60 seconds and that includes my login and password... But I guess that is too long for some people to wait..
[05:07] <codecaine> hmm
[05:07] <Justy> PMantis, sorry i am so new
[05:07] <PMantis> Justy, sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:07] <justin_> codecaine: go to winehq first, and see if the app even works in WINE, not all windows apps work in wine.. -- some do, some sorta of do -- and a lot don't.
[05:08] <calamari> Jack_Sparrow: yep.. it takes about 5 minutes on his p3 600MHz
[05:08] <PMantis> Justy, But at this point, a reboot might just be better.
[05:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu is a bit heavy
[05:08] <omar> der0b:  umount //<ip>/trc
[05:08] <ubuntu> no doubt about that
[05:08] <PMantis> Justy, Since that little "you need to reboot" nag is there from the kernel reinstall
[05:08] <scrp> If i had my wireless button on my laptop turned OFF, then Ubuntu doesnt detect it during installation i assume, so how would i make ubuntu find my wireless now ?
[05:08] <der0b> yes omar, but be in /tmp when you issue the command
[05:08] <daurnimator> can i get some personal help/aid with mounting an ntfs volume?
[05:08] <omar> der0b:  my old files are gonne
[05:08] <daurnimator> anyone?
[05:09] <Justy> PMantis, what is the command to restart any service ?
[05:09] <philip> codecaine, what windows apps do you use that you can't find an FOSS equiv for?
[05:09] <calamari> daurnimator: why don't you want public help?
[05:09] <omar> der0b:  I did this: root@omar:/tmp# umount //192.168.1.20/trc
[05:09] <PMantis> ubuntu, thanks... really just a novice jack of all trades
[05:09] <justin_> calamari: 5 minutes? are you serious? --- how much ram does he have?
[05:09] <calamari> justin_: 256mb
[05:09] <ubuntu> PMantis, yw
[05:09] <PMantis> Justy, Usually /etc/init.d/<service name> restart
[05:09] <omar> der0b:  I get this:unmount error 16 = Device or resource busy
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> daurnimator: I would suggest the diskmounter script... but editing fstab manually works too
[05:09] <justin_> calamari: My second machine is a PIII 650 256MB and it boots in 30 seconds :D
[05:09] <daurnimator> calamari: cause everytime i've tried public before, its been lost in logs - and taken upto 6 hours a time and gotten nowhere
[05:09] <calamari> justin_: wish I knew how you accomplished that
[05:09] <justin_> calamari: Get him on Xubuntu, its so similar he wont notice much difference hehe :)
[05:09] <PMantis> Justy, Did you use to use Red Hat?
[05:09] <daurnimator> Jack_Sparrow: more complicated than that
[05:10] <calamari> justin_: yeah he is on xubuntu :)
[05:10] <Justy> PMantis, ew didn't work for netw.man ... No i didnt use
[05:10] <der0b> omar, you have something holding the mount open.  that's all this is (that's why I wanted you to go to /tmp).  your files are not gone, we just need to get that unmounted
[05:10] <omar> der0b: did I erase my files?
[05:10] <justin_> calamari: Are you serious? --- wow... - is he PC a clone or namebrand?
[05:10] <der0b> omar, no
[05:10] <Justy> PMantis, it is my first experience on Linux with ubuntu
[05:10] <codecaine> is there a way to uninstall a unsuccessl window program on wine?
[05:10] <der0b> omar, close all of the terminal and naultilus windows you have open
[05:10] <ubuntu> justy ur doing just fine, give ur self a break
[05:10] <justin_> calamari: Mine is a Compaq Deskpro, perhaps.. they are a little faster since they are designed perfectly to work with everything.
[05:10] <calamari> justin_: it's an old Dell
[05:11] <daurnimator> so
[05:11] <philip> codecaine, delete the app's folder
[05:11] <daurnimator> can anyone help me out?
[05:11] <der0b> omar, then open 1 terminal window and cd /tmp, then umount the share
[05:11] <justin_> calamari: Ok, that exaplains it :) welcome to dell hell :P
[05:11] <Justy> ubuntu, what do you mean? i need wpa in my laptop
[05:11] <daurnimator> expert on partitions & sata drivers prefered
[05:11] <calamari> daurnimator: did you have a specific question?
[05:11] <PMantis> Justy, The Network Manager service is controlled by DBUS, and the nm-applet (the icon you use) is loaded whe you login. This icon will likely crash when you restart dbus. To simplify, just reboot.
[05:11] <roberts> Hmm, I'm tring to enable dapper-backports in my sources.list, and it worked for main, but then I tried to enable it for Universe as well and nothing is showing up for upgrade (aside from the five or so that are in main).
[05:11] <ubuntu> what i mean is , we all learn , we all start somewhere, chil out
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> daurnimator: If it is more complicated than a simple mount, maybe you should explain what exactly you are trying to do.
[05:12] <Justy> PMantis, lol ok =) brb and sorry for disturb
[05:12] <PMantis> Justy, NP
[05:12] <ubuntu> daurnimator, hello
[05:12] <ubuntu> whats up?
[05:12] <calamari> justin_: it's fine.. dos boots instantly.. in fact it is booted before the monitor finishes warming up :)
[05:12] <PMantis> BTW, anyone know why Dapper power management comes up with *outrageous* battery life estimates?
[05:12] <daurnimator> ok, i have a jbod array with 2 drives - i can mount the first partition (because its entirely on the first drive), but the second needs the 2 drives put together
[05:12] <daurnimator> - how do i do it?
[05:12] <ubuntu> wb fred1
[05:12] <fredl> anybody else here using network-manager?
[05:13] <PMantis> fredl, I am
[05:13] <qmf> http://starqmf.com/Screenshot.png < can anyone help me with this? i installed fglrx. i'm running xgl and compiz not that it should make much diff.
[05:13] <roberts> fredl: Ask your question please.
[05:13] <daurnimator> previously i've been led around with mdadm - maybe that'll tell you guys something
[05:13] <fredl> PMantis, so it works for you? wireless or wired?
[05:13] <PMantis> fredl, both
[05:13] <hydrozen> Is the ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 known to work under linux? I tried a couple of how-tos and everytime X doesn't want to start anymore...
[05:14] <PMantis> fredl, need a supported wirelss card, though... not sure if it'll work with NDIS-wrapper
[05:14] <fredl> PMantis, so after you apt-get install network-manager/network-manager-gnome, did it work pretyt much automatically for you or is there stuff you need to configure?
[05:14] <PMantis> fredl, Auto for me, with Intel 2200 based chip
[05:14] <fredl> PMantis, I have an aironet 350, which is supported natively by Linux but I dunno if network-manager does.
[05:14] <codecaine> yes philip
[05:15] <justin_> How do I bring down, and restart gdm in Ubuntu? --- gdm-stop, gdm-restart / do not seem to work...
[05:15] <PMantis> Justy, Welcome back
[05:15] <fredl> PMantis, even saw it on the supported hardware list for network-manager, but no go. I'm also having an extremely hard time figuring out how the server process is even started up
[05:15] <Justy> PMantis, thanks very much =)
[05:15] <ubuntu> justin_,   /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:15] <fredl>  /etc/init.d/gdm stop/start
[05:15] <justin_> ubuntu: :)
[05:16] <PMantis> fredl, Don't do this in a gnome terminal, though.
[05:16] <PMantis> :)
[05:16] <ubuntu> justin_,  :)
[05:16] <PMantis> Justy, You're welcome!
[05:16] <fredl> PMantis, do you happen to know if the dbus server process starts up NetworkManager?
[05:16] <daurnimator> hello?
[05:16] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so how can i install it?
[05:16] <daurnimator> anyone?
[05:16] <daurnimator> - see, thats the problem, i get lost in backlog
[05:16] <PMantis> fredl, Yes, it does
[05:17] <fredl> PMantis, aha. So by shooting down the dbus process I'll also get rid of the NetworkManager daemon then?
[05:17] <Justy> PMantis,  network-manager says: "No network device found" ...
[05:17] <scrp> is it normal not to see mplayer when doing apt-cache search ?
[05:17] <fredl> Justy, yours too huh? what kind of card do you have?
[05:17] <justin_> Nope, ubuntu that does not work either it always --- fails*, seems that whenever my X dies (usually when im playing or messing around with PSX emulation) it will never come back... but with a solid reboot.
[05:17] <lwells> I am getting the message "cannot execute binary file", not sure what that means
[05:17] <Bonez56> scrp, it should show up, it does on mine
[05:17] <Justy> fredl, Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[05:17] <ubuntu> bbl guys
[05:17] <ubuntu> tc
[05:17] <scrp> Bonez56:  all i see is kmplayer ?
[05:18] <Bonez56> scrp, check your repos
[05:18] <fredl> Justy, hmm, that according to the NetworkManager page one of the best supported cards I believe.
[05:18] <lwells> Anyone ever try to run "Synergy"?
[05:18] <PMantis> Justy, See anything with: sudo ifconfig  ?
[05:18] <PMantis> fredl, Yes. the daemon will shut down with dbus
[05:18] <fredl> isn't NetworkManager in universe?
[05:18] <der0b> !multiverse
[05:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:18] <scrp> so where is my mplayer!
[05:18] <codecaine> when running a 3d game why does the refreshrate change then what you use for ur desktop?
[05:18] <Justy> PMantis,  eth0 eth1 and lo
[05:18] <der0b> scrp, check out that multivers thingy ubotu just posted
[05:19] <Justy> PMantis, eth1 is wireless
[05:19] <PMantis> Justy, Hmmmm, should work
[05:19] <hydrozen> Is the ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 known to work under linux? I tried a couple of how-tos and everytime X doesn't want to start anymore...
[05:19] <silent_scream> how do i force terminate amsn ??
[05:19] <PMantis> Justy, Try: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[05:20] <Kuprin> Hey all - I'm having a really odd package management issue. One package, which one I'm not sure, is failing to be installed and properly configured. Nothing else seems to be failing.
[05:20] <der0b> silent_scream, is that a terminal app or an xwin app?
[05:20] <scrp> silent_scream: kill `ps x | grep amsn | awk {print $2}'`
[05:20] <scrp> silent_scream: or something
[05:21] <justin_> For future people who run into the problem of X freezing, you must --- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop --- then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start || You must sudo for start though :)
[05:21] <fredl> PMantis, gadzook, another startup mechanism to learn with dbus :P
[05:21] <Justy> PMantis, found asus_router with protocol IEEE 802.11bg ch:11 encryptkey: on bitrate:54mbps  IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Auth Suites: PSK
[05:21] <wikijeff> If I have a wireless interface and an ethernet interface, is there a way to tell Ubuntu to only use the wireless interface if the ethernet interface isn't connected or isn't working??
[05:21] <Justy> PMantis, i see no problem
[05:21] <PMantis> Justy, ok, working fine... hmmm
[05:22] <phaedrus44> wikijeff:  blacklist the ethernet module?
[05:22] <TooTallJones> I'm looking for some help on a dial-up connection.  gnome-ppp works for me but I want to use kppp as gnome seems to never allow me to drop my connection
[05:22] <silent_scream> hi i downloaded a firefox icon theme and it is in .jar format.. so how can i install it?
[05:22] <PMantis> Justy, Network manager sometimes is very slow in updating its list of networks... but it SHOULD recognize the network cards either way. I dunno.
[05:23] <vcolombo> wikijeff: Check out Network Manager
[05:23] <scrp> der0b: shouldnt be anything wrong with sources.list
[05:23] <wikijeff> phaedrus44, vcolombo: won't that just disable the wireless interface? I still wan't it to be used if the ethernet interface goes down.
[05:23] <TooTallJones> I have the output kppp gives me when I try to connect, let me know if you want to see
[05:24] <hhdk> Anyone good at OpenOffice? : )
[05:24] <roberts> For some reason, enabling dapper-backports only works for main, and not universe.  I know I've enbaled it correctly and applied the changes, but no go...
[05:24] <scrp> der0b: all i have commented are "backports"
[05:24] <Justy> PMantis, is there anyway to connect network with wlan via iwlist ?
[05:24] <wikijeff> vcolombo: what network manager are you talking about?
[05:24] <PMantis> Justy, Actually:  iwconfig eth1 essid <essid of router>
[05:24] <PMantis> Justy, Then: iwconfig eth1
[05:24] <qmf> can anyone point me to a place other than #ati where i can get help on my graphics problems?
[05:25] <der0b> scrp, you actually need to add multiverse, it's not there by defaut
[05:25] <PMantis> Justy, See if it has the MAC fo the router...
[05:25] <PMantis> Justy, With WEP it's harder, WPA, harder yet.
[05:25] <PMantis> Justy, Actually WEP isn't that bad.
[05:25] <newclient> hello
[05:25] <jpjacobs> newclient, hi
[05:26] <newclient> hi im new to ubuntu... i just a q
[05:26] <newclient> hi jpjacobs
[05:26] <xipietotec> how do I edit my composition extension in xorg? (e.g. where do I find this)?
[05:26] <Justy> PMantis, only 10 min. to crack WEP
[05:26] <xipietotec> Is it xorg.conf?
[05:26] <Justy> PMantis, i couldn't see MAC of my router actually no MAC
[05:26] <jpjacobs> 8ask>newclient
[05:26] <Justy> PMantis, and it shows 0 bitrate and 0 channel
[05:26] <scrp> der0b: k, i think i have uncommented like everything in sources.list, still no mplayer
[05:27] <jpjacobs> !ask>newclient
[05:27] <Justy> PMantis, no link quality, signal level etc..
[05:27] <kippi> how can I install libboost-filesystem1.33.0 not libboost-filesystem1.33.0c2a? apt-get only seems to want to install libboost-filesystem1.33.0c2a
[05:27] <TooTallJones> no dial-up masters running around here? =(
[05:27] <newclient> well im wondering how do i check all my mounted devices from the prompt
[05:27] <der0b> scrp, did you add an entry for multiverse?  if yes, did you sudo apt-get update after?
[05:27] <newclient> what i mean is list all mnt dev
[05:27] <scrp> der0b: oh, i need to add an entry? or just uncomment. and ya i did update
[05:27] <jpjacobs> newclient, type in mount in a console
[05:28] <zaggynl> Anyone got warcraft 3 running under wine?
[05:28] <der0b> scrp, you need to add multiverse (not there by default)
[05:28] <zaggynl> I keep getting sound buffer underruns
[05:28] <newclient> oh... (feels dumb)
[05:28] <der0b> !multiverse > scrp
[05:28] <newclient> thnks
[05:28] <hhdk> Is it possible to center your document in openoffice, while viewing it in "100%-mode" ?
[05:29] <newclient> i love linux
[05:29] <zaggynl> Now for some more native games
[05:29] <Justy> PMantis, it say unassociated ESSID:"asus_router"
[05:29] <admrl> networkmanager in notification hasnt been coming up in awhile and when it does come up it does not show the network activity or do anything else
[05:29] <zaggynl> getting wine to work and finding nocd cracks ain't that much fun :P
[05:29] <admrl> in the notification area***
[05:30] <admrl> i havnt been able to find much information about it
[05:32] <der0b> scrp, how's the sources.list update going?
[05:32] <qmf> just incase someone else asks: i fixed my prob (http://starqmf.com/Screenshot.png) by downgrading the fglrx driver through synaptic. worked instantly
[05:32] <roberts> Does Ubuntu use Unicode by default?
[05:32] <omar> der0b: My files are back :)
[05:32] <TooTallJones> anyone who has some kppp knowledge?
[05:32] <der0b> omar, whew.. where did you go?!?!
[05:32] <der0b> omar, I was nervous
[05:33] <omar> der0b: me too, more than you
[05:33] <omar> anyways
[05:33] <omar> der0b: could we star again, I loose everything we talked
[05:33] <omar> der0b: my machine got stucked
[05:34] <der0b> omar, I knew you would be ok, all you did was mount the windows share over your home dir.  which wouldn't have *really* messed you up
[05:34] <zaggynl> how to check if opengl works?
[05:34] <scrp> der0b: http://pastebin.ca/176313
[05:34] <omar> der0b: thanks
[05:34] <omar> der0b: I feel better
[05:34] <der0b> one moment omar, we'll get that share mounted
[05:34] <omar> der0b: I loose the command
[05:34] <omar> I can unmount
[05:35] <omar> but not mount
[05:35] <der0b> scrp, paste your whole sources.list
[05:35] <der0b> to pastbin
[05:36] <der0b> omar, make a folder in your home called trc then sudo mount -t cifs //ip/trc ~/trc
[05:36] <scrp> der0b: http://pastebin.ca/176320
[05:36] <RogerRabb> Hey, I've got two pointing devices connected to this computer - a trackball and a wireless logitech. I've configured my logitech to use evdev so it can make use of all buttons..but now my trackball (which is connected to the ps2) doesn't work
[05:36] <redhand> boa tarde!!!
[05:36] <redhand> alguem pode me enviar o xorg.conf de vcs?
[05:36] <RogerRabb> in my xorg.conf can I have two mouse configs?
[05:37] <Justy> hello all
[05:37] <KenSentMe> Is there a way to let a program start from the menu in a certain folder (not ~/)?
[05:37] <zmeiat_joro> checked the iso, burned again, same thing :?
[05:37] <zmeiat_joro> :/
[05:37] <kupesoft> is there a decent image editor for ubuntu that isn't so entirely inaccessable as GIMP is?
[05:37] <Justy> about wpa_gui : it cannot see my wireless router, output is PING failed - trying to reconnect
[05:37] <der0b> scrp, comment out line 2 and add the multiverse to the end of lines 18 & 19
[05:37] <omar> der0b: Imount -t cifs //ip/trc ~/trc I got this
[05:38] <RogerRabb> kupesoft gimp is basically linux's answer to photoshop.. did you want something simpler - more like ms paint?
[05:38] <brian__> .
[05:38] <HellBunny> howdy fellas, anyone knows why nautilus wont browse windows shares after upgrade and how to fix that?
[05:38] <der0b> scrp, I'm going by the line numbers on pastebin for that
[05:39] <kupesoft> RogerRabb: more like something in between - like macromedia fireworks or something
[05:39] <lwells> does linux come with XTest?
[05:39] <kupesoft> RogerRabb: something moderately powerful,
[05:39] <der0b> omar, got what?
[05:39] <kupesoft> RogerRabb: But easy to use
[05:40] <omar> der0b: mount error: can not change directory into mount target /root/trc
[05:40] <der0b> omar, you
[05:40] <RogerRabb> powerful and easy to use generally don't mix.. and when they do, it's a rare occasion.. I've find gimp pretty easy to use, after spending some hours with it
[05:40] <der0b> omar, you're using ubuntu right?  why are you doing this as root?  you should be using sudo to perform these actions
[05:41] <sharperguy> edgy is in knot three just now right?
[05:41] <harry> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats
[05:41] <der0b> correct sharperguy
[05:41] <sharperguy> cool
[05:41] <harry> im using kubuntu 5.10
[05:41] <Justy> about wpa_gui : it cannot see my wireless router, output is PING failed - trying to reconnect
[05:41] <Hasdech> hey guys ... i neeeeeed sum help if yas can ... i added a second hard drive to my ubuntu box ... i fdisk'd it with an ext partition and well as far as i can tell i have mounted it correctly ... i have a 4gb hdd i'm using as my primary master (ubuntu boot) drive ... and this new drive is Primary Slave (hdb) the partition i created is hdb1
[05:41] <scrp> der0b: haxor :)
[05:41] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i convert all files in a fodlers (and sub sub folders) names to dvd-writable form?
[05:41] <der0b> lol
[05:41] <MetaMorfoziS> what program can do that?
[05:41] <der0b> so all is well scrp?
[05:42] <HellBunny> anyone knows whats happening to smb browsing in nautilus?
[05:42] <scrp> der0b: well, when i get my consoles back and perhaps setup my wireless :)
[05:42] <kupesoft> Are there any lesser image editors for ubuntu that are usable but not as complicated as GIMP?
[05:42] <Hasdech> now ... what has happened is that i have just started copying to it - and found that it has run out of sapce and that by sharing my /mnt/120GB folder... that is where the files are being copied to - not the new drive with 120GB free ... HELP
[05:43] <der0b> scrp, but the multiverse issue is resolved?  and wireless is evil (regardless of the OS, I really hate that technology as it stands today)
[05:43] <Hasdech> where do i 'command line' to, to find my mounted hdd ?
[05:43] <RogerRabb> there should be a forum post.. let me check it out kupesoft
[05:43] <kupesoft> thanks (=
[05:43] <Justy> brb alll
[05:44] <scrp> der0b: heheh, ebil ebil wireless
[05:44] <der0b> kupesoft, you can try installing krita (it's a kde app but should be fine)
[05:44] <CodeRun> Hey all! :)
[05:44] <amarokker> Hi, what command do i have to use in order to reconfigure xfonts? dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-xorg?
[05:44] <scrp> der0b: but its neccesary sometimes to use wireless, but yes multiverse is solved
[05:44] <scrp> der0b: thank you sir
[05:44] <Schamane> Hasdech: just type mount, the you see everything mounted
[05:44] <scrp> now i can chill here at work, listening to System of a down
[05:44] <CodeRun> I've been using ubuntu for a week now.. and i have a question regarding it.. isn't it true that ubuntu is just a dumbed down version of debian?
[05:44] <TooTallJones> anyone had problems with the keyboard not repsonding to any games in full screen?
[05:45] <scrp> since i set up linux, like 3 other people in my office started to mess with linux too
[05:45] <Tonus> CodeRun, enriched rather, I'd say. enriched with userfriendlyness.
[05:45] <der0b> scrp, I know, I have a lappy and I do need the wireless from time to time..  glad to help.  actually, just glad I can..  I guess I've picked up a few things in the last few months
[05:45] <amarokker> CodeRun: not always for the dumber though- i use it out of sheer convenience- the package management is less painless
[05:45] <HellBunny> CodeRun: exactly, we are all debian users here just waiting for people like you to drop in so we can make fun of you
[05:45] <zaggynl> Anyone knows how to get direct rendering to work?
[05:45] <der0b> omar??  did you see my qstn regarding ubuntu and root?
[05:46] <omar> der0b: it'works, buddy thanxs so much, I got a big scared moment, but everything is ok, thanks for your help
[05:46] <roconnor_> is libqt-mt-dev broken???
[05:46] <der0b> omar, did you sudo or switch to root?
[05:46] <omar> der0b: I am using sudo now
[05:46] <saiko> anyone
[05:47] <saiko> anyone here us devil's pie ?
[05:47] <python_user> hi everyone
[05:47] <der0b> omar, smart man :)  so you have a mount?  you're able to write to it?
[05:47] <administrator_> on dapper... where do i get my sound drivers... i am regular ac  97
[05:47] <RogerRabb> kupesoft take a look at gpaint
[05:47] <omar> der0b: yes I am doing that
[05:47] <RogerRabb> don't know if that's powerful enough or not
[05:47] <scrp> I am root. If you see me laughing you better have backup.
[05:47] <RogerRabb> but heh, can't hurt
[05:47] <omar> der0b: thanks, and you are the smart, see you soon
[05:47] <ermak> can anyone help to run tv-tuner?
[05:47] <roconnor_> is libqt-mt-dev broken???
[05:48] <eyequeue> administrator_, system > preferences > sound
[05:48] <python_user> i tried to install essential codecs for mplayer
[05:48] <python_user> but it didnt work
[05:48] <der0b> omar, lol, thanks..  you're helping my ego :)  - take care and enjoy
[05:48] <python_user> :(
[05:48] <python_user> i installed it to /usr/local/lib
[05:48] <omar> der0b: one more question
[05:48] <eyequeue> administrator_, you may need to "sudo alsamixer" also, to turn off unsupported hardware first, as i did
[05:48] <Hasdech> is there anyone here who knows much about adding hdd's and partitioning / mounting / accessing all from the command line??  please give me a hand...
[05:48] <der0b> shoot omar
[05:49] <kupesoft> Thanks RogerRabb,
[05:49] <python_user> theres no "codecs" directory in /usr/local/lib
[05:49] <omar> der0b: I can't move some files and I get this : "Acceso denegado a /home/omar/trc/Actualidad/Cluster/consultoria MKT Milusca/logos telar."
[05:49] <omar> der0b: that's acces denied
[05:49] <Schamane> Hasdech: dont have much time, but you need fdisk, mkfs and /etc/fstab
[05:49] <amarokker> Hello. some help? whats the dpkg-reconfigure command for xfonts?
[05:49] <python_user> i also tried to install easyubuntu
[05:49] <amarokker> i want to enable bitmap fonts here.
[05:50] <python_user> but that didnt work either
[05:50] <python_user> :(
[05:50] <Gnalein> yay, finally irc works
[05:50] <scrp> where do i set the default program to open for example .mp3
[05:50] <Gnalein> doesn't rythmbox support mp3?
[05:50] <roconnor_> is *ANYBODY* alive
[05:50] <Gnalein> i tried to add a bunch to library, but it didn't work
[05:50] <python_user> and when i tried to remove easyUbuntu from synaptic it gave error
[05:51] <administrator_> ok now this is worse... i just got done installin the i915driver  for my intel card... everything is perfect everything is how it supposed to be on the forums.. but now when i reboot i get to logi9n screen and its just strait blac
[05:51] <Samuli^> !restrictedformats > Gnalein
[05:51] <der0b> omar, I can only assume that root is owning the mount, if you move the files with sudo "sudo mv -v filename" you should have no problem.  we didn't set any permissions on the mount so your account probably doesn't have enough priv to move
[05:51] <scrp> administrator_: omg my login screen is also blank!
[05:51] <python_user> E: easyubuntu: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[05:51] <Gnalein> !restrictedformats
[05:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:51] <administrator_> scrp:yeah
[05:51] <scrp> administrator_: try logging in through the blank screen, it works for me, but i dont see anything
[05:52] <administrator_> yeah i logged in thru blank screen
[05:52] <administrator_> and it works i still see nothin gtho
[05:52] <Gnalein> can't i play mp3 in ubuntu then?
[05:52] <scrp> administrator_: omg! fix it
[05:52] <der0b> omar, just be REALLY careful, moving with a sudo is the same as moving as root.  you CAN move files that shouldn't be moved and you could hose your system
[05:52] <python_user> Gnalein, i think you can
[05:52] <roconnor_> nevermind, think i got it
[05:52] <scrp> administrator_: i think it happened after i installed latest nvidia drivers or something
[05:52] <python_user> but you know to install the codecs
[05:52] <administrator_> well what did u have to do
[05:52] <scrp> administrator_: my screen is still blank lol
[05:53] <Gnalein> i don't know how to, i just installed ubuntu yesterday night, first time i really use it now
[05:53] <scrp> administrator_: except in X ofcourse
[05:53] <omar> der0b: don't worry I am moving directory one per each and just documents
[05:53] <scrp> administrator_: now i just use terminals :(
[05:53] <administrator_> naa this can be fixed some way
[05:53] <omar> der0b: but I need to move complete directories
[05:53] <winkerR> hey
[05:53] <python_user> does anyone know what the default directory is that mplayer looks for codecs?
[05:53] <BratJan> Ashataram!
[05:53] <omar> der0b: that's a lot for one by one file
[05:53] <scrp> der0b: where do i set the default program to open, say .mp3 files?
[05:53] <BratJan> Ibna bad ibhazadaawi kirjojtan!
[05:54] <BratJan> Szmata TAM!
[05:54] <scrp> der0b: ubuntu always wants to use some movie player for it ...wiiich gives errors, so i wanna use teh mplayer or teh vlc
[05:54] <BratJan> ububtu sucks!
[05:54] <der0b> omar, I believe you could remount the share with proper perms too: sudo mount -t cifs //ip/trc ~/trc -o uid=<username>  (replace <username> with your username)
[05:54] <BratJan> ony DEBIAN
[05:54] <winkerR> can anyone help me setting danish charset?
[05:54] <scrp> winkerR: aw Danish :S
[05:54] <scrp> winkerR: i know that the Icelandic keymap is is-latin1
[05:54] <der0b> scrp, right click the file and go to properties, then click the open with tab and select your new default player
[05:55] <unplugd> I'm trying to start freeradius, but the first error that appears is: rlm_sql (sql): Make sure it (and all its dependent libraries) are in the search path of your system ld."
[05:55] <winkerR> scrp, where do I set it?
[05:56] <winkerR> scrp, so that it works in term/xterm too?
[05:56] <MZM> anyone running xorg 7.1.x on i855gm?
[05:56] <scrp> winkerR: yea i got all my chars,      ;o
[05:56] <zaggynl> How to get OpenGL working in Ubuntu?
[05:56] <lastnode> zaggynl, what driver?
[05:56] <scrp> winkerR: try going to System > Preference > Keyboard
[05:56] <winkerR> scrp, thats the ones i need... it works in your terminal too?
[05:57] <scrp> winkerR: try the layout there
[05:57] <scrp> winkerR: yea i use irc in terminal :p
[05:57] <Captain_Redbeard> http://immense-world.blogspot.com/2006/09/mathematics-genius.html
[05:57] <Captain_Redbeard> hehe
[05:57] <winkerR> scrp, ohhh im using xubuntu btw.. :)
[05:57] <zaggynl> lastnode, nvidia
[05:57] <zaggynl> also, direct rendering is off :(
[05:57] <scrp> winkerR: otherwise when using gentoo i used "setxkbmap" or something
[05:58] <lastnode> zaggynl, sorry no invidia experience - im guessing nvidia fglrx drivers?
[05:58] <zaggynl> checking
[05:58] <scrp> winkerR: xubuntu? :o what's the diffrence
[05:58] <Ace_NoOne> hello - I got a problem with the Ubuntu and Kubuntu live CDs; I remember trying them out a few weeks back, and all worked quite fine (although rather slow, obviously)
[05:58] <zaggynl> lastnode, nvidia-glx
[05:58] <zaggynl> bunch of restricted modules when I look in synaptic
[05:58] <scrp> administrator_: have you got any ideas ? :)
[05:58] <zaggynl> I do get the nvidia logo at boot
[05:59] <DethKlok> Anyone have any recommendations on proxy server for linux?
[05:59] <Blob> all -- I found an updated hplip (1.6.7) package at packages.debian.org.  how would I install this on ubuntu to replace my older 0.9.7 version?
[05:59] <Ace_NoOne> however, when I tried to install them today, the Kubuntu gave me an error soon after the desktop was loaded (some process had died unexpectedly), and everything was horribly slow
[05:59] <administrator_> scrp: yeah i am just editing this xorg.conf seeing if i can get it to run better
[05:59] <Ace_NoOne> similar problem with regular Ubuntu; that basically stopped doing anything (still reading the CD tho for >30 mins) even before the desktop was fully loaded
[05:59] <Ace_NoOne> so I can't even install (K)Ubuntu right now
[06:00] <Ace_NoOne> anyone got a clue as to why that might be
[06:00] <lastnode> zaggynl, sorry no idea mate
[06:00] <zaggynl> lastnode, okay cheers
[06:00] <Schamane> boah that sucks
[06:00] <Schamane> just installed new updates on kubuntu
[06:00] <scrp> Was someone asking about a proxy server? :o
[06:01] <saiko> Ace_NoOne: might be an hardware problem
[06:01] <Schamane> it upgraded kernel to 2.6.15-27
[06:01] <Schamane> and now it dont boot
[06:01] <Schamane> cant mount root
[06:01] <Schamane> seems to be an lvm problem
[06:01] <scrp> wow i hope my linux boots after the kernel update :O
[06:01] <Schamane> scrp: do you use lvm?
[06:01] <scrp> Schamane: nop
[06:02] <winkerR> scrp, hmm cant get it working... i've marked english, danish & Latin.. for support
[06:02] <Schamane> hm, then i think there wont be an problem
[06:02] <scrp> winkerR: i only have Icelandic
[06:02] <python_user> Ace, how much RAM do you have?
[06:03] <der0b> Schamane, are you able to boot with the previous kernel?
[06:03] <Schamane> der0b: no, the problem is, kubuntu has installed lilo :(
[06:03] <administrator_> scrp: i fixed it
[06:03] <winkerR> :shouting... ANy Danes in here?
[06:03] <scrp> administrator_: ...whaa? lies!
[06:04] <Schamane> an NO previous entry has been made by ubuntu
[06:04] <Ropechoborra> Hi... i changed the / directory permission to u+rwx and now i dont got access to anything! =( what i can do ?? :S
[06:04] <vibesreiton> Question:  I know how to do the modmap thing but I would like to change the actual keycode reported by X.  Is that possible?  The thing is that some apps read the keycode instead of the keysym *Shakes fist!*
[06:04] <bon> is there a command you type then you first run k3b to give it the right permissions - i keep geting wrong media type
[06:04] <administrator_> scrp: had to check thru ur xorg.conf make sure everything is reading correct for some odd reason my driver was readin as vesa still not as the correct one
[06:04] <scrp> administrator_: how did you fix teh blank screen?
[06:04] <Aar0n444> What's the minimum system requirements for Ubuntu Server
[06:04] <der0b> Schamane, wow, I've never seen that happen.  I did the kernel upgrade on my lappy last night and grub is still my loader
[06:04] <omar> der0b: buddy your genius. I am gonna share the knowledge here in Peru with everybody, linux is maybe the best thing I did lately, now I gotta go see you
[06:04] <Schamane> der0b: it was lilo from beginning
[06:04] <Schamane> i dont like lilo
[06:04] <scrp> administrator_: hmmh in xorg.conf? i thought xorg.conf couldnt affect the console it self
[06:05] <Schamane> too much problems
[06:05] <der0b> of course I did a remote update on my desktop and it never came back after reboot :/
[06:05] <dreamthief> Aar0n444, having a server ;)
[06:05] <der0b> later omar
[06:05] <Schamane> will try to write lilo with knoppix again
[06:05] <Aar0n444> Yes dreamtheif, that's incredible helpful. What are the SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
[06:05] <RogerRabb> there's no way I can reload a new xorg config without restarting x right? I've just added another mouse and don't want to have to restart x for it
[06:06] <MZM> anyone running Xorg 7.1.x on i855gm?
[06:06] <der0b> Schamane, I did an initial install from a kubuntu cd and it installed grub for me
[06:06] <XiXaQ> how do I set the default Java implementation?
[06:06] <der0b> I don't know the command for updating lilo, but I'm sure you can do it from a live cd
[06:06] <zaggynl> Anyone knows how to get opengl working?
[06:07] <administrator_> scrp: of course it can dude
[06:07] <zaggynl> I've got my nvidia driver installed
[06:07] <administrator_> lol
[06:07] <der0b> XiXaQ, I think it's sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:07] <Gnalein> Could someone tell me how to get mousebutton 4-7 to work?
[06:07] <der0b> Gnalein, check the ubuntu-wiki, search for intellimouse
[06:07] <Gnalein> k thnx
[06:07] <Schamane> der0b: i did it this way tooo
[06:07] <der0b> np
[06:08] <Schamane> knoppix dont work with lvms :(
[06:08] <der0b> oh crap
[06:08] <Schamane> wtf
[06:08] <bon> is there a command you type then you first run k3b to give it the right permissions - i keep geting wrong media type
[06:08] <snail> I'm trying to install moodle, which is an apache system that requires a database connection. I _think_ what I'm lacking is the default password for postgresql...
[06:09] <gpettit> Can you tell mkinitramfs to look somewhere other than /lib/modules?
[06:09] <YRS> heya
[06:09] <Schamane> maybe knoppiy 5 do
[06:09] <der0b> Schamane, I didn't even think about that..  lvm volumes are tricky..  sorry man, dunno what to tell you to do..  have you tried ubuntu recovery mode?
[06:09] <scrp> administrator_: you think you could look over my xorg.conf ?
[06:09] <Schamane> der0b: yes, but rescue ubuntu sucks
[06:09] <Schamane> wont run lilo
[06:10] <der0b> Schamane, I've never used it..
[06:10] <Schamane> and doesnt have vi on board
[06:10] <Schamane> i use it always
[06:10] <der0b> you think an ubuntu live cd would do the trick?
[06:10] <Schamane> but ubuntu really sucks in use with lvm
[06:10] <Ace_NoOne> python_user: sorry, been on the phone for a few mins; I got 128 MB RAM
[06:10] <Blob> all -- I found an updated hplip (1.6.7) package at packages.debian.org.  how would I install this on ubuntu to replace my older 0.9.7 version?
[06:10] <Ace_NoOne> saiko: hardware problem is unlikely; Windows still runs just fine
[06:11] <Schamane> dero, no you only can use lvm with the text installer
[06:11] <scrp> my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/176359 , if you see anything that could cause a blank screen in console, please let me know :p
[06:11] <der0b> Blob, all I know is that you shouldn't, debian and ubuntu are not the same beast
[06:11] <dmd> I need to re-compile alsa but I can't because 'The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist' but I've installed the kernel source, headers etc. What gives?
[06:11] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[06:11] <YRS> can you help me? i have a Leadtek Winfast USB II Deluxe tv tuner, anybody know any what driver/how to install it on k/ubuntu?
[06:11] <Samuli^> Blob, do you absolutely need it? if you don't, DON'T.
[06:11] <der0b> Schamane, I wish you luck :/
[06:11] <Schamane> dro lvms are not tricky, they rock
[06:12] <shadox> hello
[06:12] <dmd> hi
[06:12] <Schamane> knoppix 5 dont support it too
[06:12] <shadox> i'm back with my (noobie) question :D
[06:12] <Schamane> :(
[06:12] <Schamane> now i have to use suse
[06:12] <Schamane> where is this fucking dvd ;)
[06:12] <Ropechoborra> Hi... i changed the / directory permission to u+rwx and now i dont got access to anything! =( what i can do ?? :S
[06:13] <scrp> der0b: could you look over my xorg.conf and check if you see anything that could cause my console screens to go blank
[06:13] <shadox> i can't log off my computer nor reboot :s both buttons are gone :s (system => log off) :(
[06:13] <scrp> Ropechoborra: mmhm actaully you should have access if you gave +rwx
[06:13] <dmd> why isn't configure finding my version.h?
[06:13] <scrp> Ropechoborra: but why would you do that? lol
[06:13] <der0b> scrp, the extent of my xorg editing/reading is enabling extra buttons on my mouse..  I wish I could help but I have no idea what to look for.
[06:14] <optimusprime> is there a prog out there that'll play video podcasts?
[06:14] <scrp> der0b: hahaha
[06:14] <SawnDiddle> I have a quick question. How can I access the root account?
[06:14] <smacky_wolf> SawnDiddle, sudo su
[06:14] <der0b> !sudo
[06:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:14] <shadox> SawnDiddle: use "sudo"
[06:14] <scrp> SawnDiddle: run a local exploit
[06:14] <Ropechoborra> scrp i change the permission to only the owner can rwx
[06:14] <Ropechoborra> and now.. i dont have access to anything =/
[06:15] <scrp> Ropechoborra: and you were root when you did this ?
[06:15] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know which file or folder the firefox bookmark save on it?
[06:15] <optimusprime> :-?
[06:15] <scrp> Ropechoborra: well it should be fixable if you didnt use -R :p
[06:15] <dmd> Why have I never been able to get anything dependent on the kernel source to compile under ubuntu? It can never find version.h - why?
[06:15] <codecaine> counter strike is free huh?
[06:16] <shadox> can someone answer my question :(?
[06:16] <silent_scream> how can i change the deault media player?
[06:16] <Ropechoborra> scrp dont tell me that :S
[06:16] <scrp> shadox: try CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[06:16] <codecaine> silent_scream: right click properties
[06:16] <shadox> scrp: i know but that's nog what i want't
[06:16] <silent_scream> codecaine, i don't mean tha
[06:16] <scrp> codecaine: MAN! i had that one! der0b told me that earlier :)
[06:17] <smacky_wolf> Shadox, it's now "Log Off" from memory
[06:17] <codecaine> open with
[06:17] <codecaine> in properties
[06:17] <codecaine> select the program you want it to be associated with
[06:17] <codecaine> right click on the icon you want to change what plays with
[06:17] <shadox> scrp: when you go to system log off, there are supossed to be 2 buttons: 1 for log off, 1 for reboot, both buttons are gone :s
[06:17] <Ropechoborra> scrp i used -R :S
[06:17] <shadox> smacky_wolf:  huh?
[06:17] <scrp> Ropechoborra: WHY!?
[06:18] <smacky_wolf> shadox, nvm, I thought you meant something else... screenshot?
[06:18] <dmd> How do I correctly configure the ubuntu kernel source so that it will work when I try to recompile ALSA etc?
[06:18] <Ropechoborra> dont know.. i was just trying to fix it
[06:18] <Ropechoborra> =/
[06:18] <scrp> Ropechoborra: lol well... the *best* thing to do is reinstall lol
[06:18] <scrp> Ropechoborra: unless someone else has a magic solution
[06:18] <stoop> hellow what's that package apt-get source again ?
[06:18] <zmeiat_joro> Ubuntu hangs after the splash screen, I'm tyring to install it form a CD, and I've checked the iso and the CD, in fact I burned it twice. I think the problem is in the machine.
[06:18] <stoop> finally got my ubuntu online :D
[06:18] <scrp> Ropechoborra: but you should NEVER run commands like that as root :o
[06:18] <Ropechoborra> scrp couldnt i try other thing?
[06:18] <scrp> Ropechoborra: specially -R
[06:18] <zmeiat_joro> it's a laptop, acer aspire
[06:19] <stoop> i think it was !oboto s something
[06:19] <stoop> don't remember :$
[06:19] <scrp> Ropechoborra: well the thing is, you changed the permissions on all files and all folders on your hard drive...
[06:19] <shadox> smacky_wolf: where can i post a screenshot?
[06:19] <earthian> hello
[06:19] <scrp> Ropechoborra: wiiiich is pretty impossible to restore 100%, maybe its possible but takes for-ever
[06:19] <Ropechoborra> scrp but i still can log in with root from tty
[06:19] <smacky_wolf> got photobucket or something, shadox ?
[06:19] <earthian> i have problems with my graphics driver
[06:20] <earthian> who can help me?
[06:20] <earthian> :(
[06:20] <saiko> anybody know how to make gnome borderless ?
[06:20] <earthian> i tried i think everything
[06:20] <stoop> what package source i need for xmms-wma and apt-get ?
[06:20] <shadox> smacky_wolf: i'll try pastebin
[06:20] <smacky_wolf> earthian, what driver?
[06:20] <smacky_wolf> !restricted
[06:20] <scrp> Ropechoborra: yea i know, but still... not much to do as user
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <Samuli^> saiko, what do you mean?
[06:20] <earthian> i have ATI Radeon X850XT AGP card
[06:20] <stoop> !apt-get sources
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get sources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <smacky_wolf> Stoop: check ubotu's last links
[06:20] <earthian> and the driver Mesa is there all the time
[06:20] <earthian> :(
[06:20] <SawnDiddle> ok, I am trying to install xampp-linux on my computer but when I try "tar zvfz xampp-linux-1.5.4.tar.gz -C /opt" I get an error that says that there is no such file, but I have the file on my desktop, is there some place that it needs to be?
[06:20] <earthian> i hate mesa
[06:21] <earthian> :/
[06:21] <stoop> oops
[06:21] <GuerillaTactiks> Is there a fool proof guide on how to install XGL using ATI card?
[06:21] <scrp> Ropechoborra: if i were you i'd just back up all my stuff and reinstall real quick
[06:21] <stoop> sma howto ?
[06:21] <scrp> Ropechoborra: unless there is a way to make apt-get reinstall all packages on your system
[06:21] <stoop> damn cfan't get the hang of xchat
[06:21] <smacky_wolf> stoop, look at the first link =3
[06:21] <michaleR> Hullo,   Having just freshly done some upgrading to my installation with aptitude, php is no longer being preprocessed by the Apache2 webserver. config files are the same as before with the proper AddType and LoadModule statements.  No logged errors.  What else should I be checking?
[06:21] <stoop> !ubotu links
[06:21] <ubotu> links: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[06:21] <smacky_wolf> Has a good how-to in it.
[06:22] <stoop> i don't c a pm smacky
[06:22] <Ropechoborra> scrp I could bakcup my all /home folder? or that is lost too.. ?
[06:22] <smacky_wolf> ubotu, tell stoop about restricted
[06:22] <scrp> Ropechoborra: if you can still login as root then you can backup everything
[06:22] <smacky_wolf> Did that work, stoop?
[06:22] <stoop> i want universe
[06:22] <ivx> can anyone tell me why when i try to log in as root on the login screen it tells me the system admin can not log in from this screen
[06:22] <saiko> Samuli^: windows without borders
[06:23] <stoop> i 'v seen the pm now thkx
[06:23] <scrp> Ropechoborra: nothing is gone, but permissions are fubar, so just backup everything you need
[06:23] <Blob> Samuli^, the thing is, the current version lacks a ppd for my printer
[06:23] <smacky_wolf> ivx, that's to do with how Ubuntu does root permissions
[06:23] <stoop> !ubotu universe
[06:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:23] <Ropechoborra> But.. why i cant simply change modes for all files ? like chmod go+rwx /
[06:23] <Ropechoborra> ??
[06:23] <stoop> !easysource
[06:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:23] <earthian> !ati trouble
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati trouble - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <earthian> !ati
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <shadox> smacky_wolf: can't do sir
[06:23] <earthian> !fglrx
[06:23] <smacky_wolf> ivx, your default account has root permissions
[06:23] <shadox> smacky_wolf: i can't take a screenshot
[06:23] <stoop> !fglrx
[06:23] <GuerillaTactiks> Anyone know the best guide on how to install XGL on ATI radeon cards?
[06:24] <scrp> Ropechoborra: well.. all your permissions are still fubar, it might *work* but your box is not secure anymore
[06:24] <smacky_wolf> shadox... get a photobucket account
[06:24] <earthian> !info fglrx
[06:24] <ubotu> Package fglrx does not exist in any distro I know
[06:24] <earthian> !fglrx
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <earthian> :/
[06:24] <Samuli^> Blob, you should find the source code for that and compile it.
[06:24] <ivx> smacky_wolf i am trying to modify a folder that only has permissions to the owner which is the root and it is grayed out so i can't add them for everyone else
[06:24] <earthian> is there any other howto regarding a problematic driver reinstallation???
[06:24] <Samuli^> Blob, installing from debian repos WILL break your dependencies.
[06:24] <earthian> i need to reinstall the drivers
[06:24] <shadox> smacky_wolf: noooo the problem is ... when i go to system => log off, i can't take a screenshot anymore
[06:24] <earthian> :o
[06:24] <smacky_wolf> \ivx: sudo su nautilus
[06:25] <smacky_wolf> even with prtscreen, shadox?
[06:25] <Ramunas> anybody here has WoW running on wine?
[06:25] <GuerillaTactiks> Guide on XGL with ATI???
[06:25] <shadox> smacky_wolf: nope doens't work
[06:25] <smacky_wolf> hrm.
[06:25] <Ropechoborra> scrp the command i used is chmod -R +rwx /  that is irreversible?
[06:25] <Schamane> ah got one
[06:25] <Ropechoborra> bleh.. my english sucks x)
[06:25] <reptyle> smacky_wolf, he could try gimp, aquire screenshot, whole window, with time delay... which might work :)
[06:25] <ivx> smacky_wolf what will that do
[06:25] <shadox> smacky_wolf: i'll take a picture with my digi cam
[06:26] <TheGateKeeper> Samuli^: Blob there is supposed to be a way to 'compile' from debian repos, they talked about it in ubuntu-classroom a while back
[06:26] <smacky_wolf> ivx: that will open Naultilus with root priveledges
[06:26] <stoop> what's that apt-get sources list starting with s ... a user in here updates it
[06:26] <smacky_wolf> ivx, forget the second su
[06:26] <smacky_wolf> just sudo nautilus
[06:26] <stoop> forgot the name ... it's !ubotu s(user name)
[06:26] <smacky_wolf> reptyle: save me >_<
[06:26] <earthian> Ramunas: \o/
[06:26] <stoop> severy
[06:26] <stoop> ?
[06:26] <earthian> pm
[06:27] <Samuli^> TheGateKeeper, sure.. apt-get source, but I think the package will still have it's dependencies.
[06:27] <Blob> Samuli^, maybe I should just get the tarball and extract the missing ppd
[06:27] <ubunturos> anybody tried Ubuntu with DLP projectors?
[06:27] <Samuli^> Blob, exactly.
[06:28] <Schamane> cant run lilo
[06:28] <ubunturos> ?
[06:29] <Schamane> im starting to get angry
[06:29] <smacky_wolf> Schamane, how are you in your OS then? o.o?
[06:29] <Schamane> ubunturos: an update killed my system
[06:29] <earthian> anybody plz help me with my graphics driver... it is terrible to live with mesa :(
[06:29] <ivx> smacky_wolf alright that worked thanks. there isn't a way to log in as root though?
[06:29] <Schamane> smacky_wolf: rescue system
[06:29] <shadox> crap my mobile phone crashed :D
[06:30] <smacky_wolf> schamane, ah. just do a reinstall up until it does your bootloader, then terminate
[06:30] <vibestriton> earthian: not sure i can... i could better judge that if you gave some info
[06:30] <earthian> and tbh i do not userstand why the hell X is showing mesa in fglrx if i have all installed and so
[06:30] <KenSentMe> How can i see where the man file of a certain program is located?
[06:30] <earthian> vibestriton: what info yo uneed?
[06:30] <zmeiat_joro> Ubuntu hangs after the splash screen, I'm tyring to install it form a CD, and I've checked the iso and the CD, in fact I burned it twice. I think the problem is in the machine. it's a laptop, acer aspire. :(((
[06:30] <ubunturos> Schamane, what killed your update?
[06:30] <earthian> i will give everything i can
[06:30] <Justy> Hello all =)
[06:30] <sonium> did someone try to capture using cinelerra?
[06:31] <Schamane> ubunturos: kernel update to 2.6.15-27
[06:31] <smacky_wolf> ivx: nope. Ubuntu disables that by default to stop you breaking things.. there's somewhere to enable it but I don't remember exactly
[06:31] <Schamane> now its unable to mount root
[06:31] <Schamane> its an lvm
[06:31] <KenSentMe> sonium: i tried it, but it didn't work for me
[06:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok guys ive read the nvidia installer a view times and installed all that I needed I think.  When I try to install the nvidia drivers using nvidia installer I now get Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[06:31] <stoop> sis ther a quick way to install xmms-wma with apt-get ?
[06:31] <sonium> KenSentMe: doesn't work for me to
[06:31] <sonium> KenSentMe: what was you problem?
[06:31] <smacky_wolf> stoop, again, the link ubotu gave you
[06:31] <KenSentMe> sonium: i think you can use kino or dvgrab better
[06:31] <shadox> wtf :s i can't connect to my own bleutooth :s  "codes doesn't matches" but my ubuntu doesn't even ask voor a code :s
[06:31] <vibestriton> can anybody tell me how to change the actual keycode reported by X?  the modmap thing only changes the keysym but some programs ignore that
[06:31] <Schamane> but hey, suse rescue rocksa
[06:32] <smacky_wolf> stoop, be patient and read it.. it has all the info you need
[06:32] <stoop> k thkx
[06:32] <stoop> won't spam again ;)
[06:32] <KenSentMe> sonium: don't know exactly anymore, but theres a #cinelerra channel on freenode where you might ask for problems
[06:32] <sonium> KenSentMe: I have no DV Cam, just a 8mm Tape Cam and a analog tv-card
[06:32] <sonium> oh, thx for the chan, didn't know it exists
[06:32] <vibestriton> earthian: your graphics card model, the problems you are experiencing
[06:32] <Schamane> i think it should boot now
[06:33] <KenSentMe> sonium: ah ok, most cinelerra users don't recommend capturing through cinelerra
[06:33] <ubunturos> so has anyone worked with DLP projectors and tested Ubuntu's display?
[06:33] <mngrif> what kind of video editing software is out there for ubuntu?
[06:33] <sonium> cinelerra
[06:33] <earthian> vibestriton: I have Radon X850XT, my problem is this from fglrxinfo > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> so far i like ubuntu but on other distros i haven't had this many problems isntalling the nvidia drivers :(
[06:33] <smacky_wolf> angriff, Kino =3
[06:33] <mngrif> sonium: anything else?
[06:34] <earthian> i want there to be my card and not some crappy software renderer
[06:34] <sharperguy> mngrif, kino
[06:34] <LinuxHelp>  Does anybody know how I can login via XDMCP to my already logged in local session? (GDM 2.14.5)
[06:34] <sonium> mngrif: don't know. afaik it's the most professional one
[06:34] <shadox> why doens't ubuntu ask for a code when i try to connect my phone with it via bluetooth? :s
[06:34] <mngrif> i'm going for simplicity
[06:34] <earthian> i dissapeared after i reinstalled my bootpartition, kernels and some other minor stuff
[06:34] <Schamane> hm, still doesnt work
[06:34] <sharperguy> mngrif, the only ones IVE seen are for editing video from firewire video cameras (the ones with the digital tapes in them)
[06:34] <smacky_wolf> mngrif, what kind of video editng?
[06:34] <Schamane> the path to lvm seems too be broken
[06:34] <mngrif> sharperguy: basic
[06:35] <mngrif> enough to cut, copy, and paste various segments
[06:35] <vibestriton> earthian: scratch that: just looked into it a bit more... (mesa driver that this)      I don't think i can help much on that one.  sorry  :(
[06:35] <mngrif> merging and splitting of the a/v tracks would be great too
[06:35] <earthian> :(
[06:35] <smacky_wolf> sudo apt-get install kino
[06:35] <ubunturos> ok.
[06:35] <sonium> and what would you recommand for capturing from analog tvcards?
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> So goes the life of people running ati
[06:35] <CromagDK> !webcam
[06:35] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:35] <sonium> kino only seems to support DV-Cams
[06:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> hehe sparrow
[06:36] <sonium> and I neighter have a dv-cam nor a firewire interface
[06:36] <smacky_wolf> sonium, but if you have your video already ripped you can user it from your HDD
[06:36] <mngrif> yeah, the files i'd be editing would be fairly standard .avi's from my digi
[06:36] <sharperguy> I hant had any luck editing avi's
[06:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> im still trying to install the nvidia drivers
[06:36] <smacky_wolf> got the plugins all installed?
[06:36] <sharperguy> you wouldnt expect it to be that hard
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Spend a small fortune on a lappy to only find it has a non-supported ati video card
[06:36] <Justy> !wpa
[06:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:36] <shadox> smacky_wolf: i got the picture on my mobile phone but i can't connect it via bluetooth it asks me for a code :s
[06:37] <reptyle> [BTF] Chm0d, is there a particular reason why your trying to install the nvidia drivers manually?
[06:37] <sharperguy> I can play them, but kino seems to only support DV
[06:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> no
[06:37] <earthian> my card is supported
[06:37] <earthian> it worked 100% yesterday
[06:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> just wont my card to work under the correct drivers and not the default
[06:37] <smacky_wolf> shadox: try 0000
[06:37] <codecaine> I need xlib library for cedega anybody know how I can just find that one libary in apt-get?
[06:38] <shadox> smacky_wolf: i did, doesn't seem to be correct
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> the nvidia drivers from the repo work well but some insist on running latest to try and gain something so they can run games better under wine
[06:38] <Justy> anyone could run Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG via WPA ?
[06:38] <earthian> codecaine: apt-cache search xlib
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> codecaine,  you dont need it.. that cedega package has a mistake in it.
[06:38] <reptyle> [BTF] Chm0d, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:38] <earthian> :o
[06:38] <jed> hey, has anybody got any tips on making Qt programs look more native on gnome?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> codecaine,  you can either install an older version of xlib. or edit the cedega package. Ive seen both ways mentioned on the ubuntu forums
[06:38] <smacky_wolf> shadox: no clue then o.o
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> [BTF] Chm0d: Did you try the drivers form the ubuntu site before going to nvidia
[06:38] <Justy> anyone could run Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG via WPA ?
[06:38] <codecaine> how u edit?
[06:38] <smacky_wolf> shadox: did you set one on your PC?
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> from
[06:39] <smacky_wolf> shadox: where is it asking you for the number?>
[06:39] <shadox> smacky_wolf: in windows yes in ubuntu not
[06:39] <mirak> aiglx would work on a radeon8500 on macintosh powerpc ?
[06:39] <smacky_wolf> try the windows one?
[06:39] <shadox> smacky_wolf: when i try to connect to my notebook
[06:39] <earthian> grr
[06:40] <reptyle> Justy, I use my IPW2200BG with wpa.
[06:40] <silent_scream> what is the command for gnome-splash-manager to start????
[06:40] <lonran> how can i manage wireless networks in dapper? i try to use the network manager but it doesnt work, any other option to find the network?
[06:40] <mngrif> gdm
[06:40] <Justy> reptyle, how?
[06:40] <justin_> silent_scream: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:41] <Justy> reptyle, did you run it using network-manager ?
[06:41] <reptyle> Justy, I use networkmanager to complete it as it does what I want ... but you'd need wpa-supplicant to do it by hand.
[06:41] <shadox> is there in ubuntu a place to do some bluetooth settings?
[06:41] <comtech> I use a bcm4306 and an atheros 5005 with wpa no problem
[06:41] <Justy> reptyle, can you help me please please
[06:42] <silent_scream> not the display manager , the splash manager
[06:42] <codecaine> how do I modify a .deb file so it doesn't ask for a certain package?
[06:43] <reptyle> Justy, does your card work?  have you connected it to a open access point?
[06:43] <ryanpg> hi all... is there a way I can automatically set permissions on any file created or saved to a directory?
[06:43] <Justy> reptyle,  i have been using WEP with no problem..
[06:43] <ryanpg> for example... any file saved on a smb server in a directory called "shared" will be set chmod 777?
[06:44] <Justy> reptyle,  but i will test it with WEP now again.. hang on please while i configure my router
[06:44] <jbroome> codecaine: if it's asking for those packages, it needs them to install correctly
[06:44] <raghu206>  i installed compiz and aglix packages  when i say compiz-start  borders and task bars  gets removed
[06:44] <raghu206>  can any one solve this
[06:44] <we2by> !streaming
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <we2by> !flash
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <codecaine> somebody said for this package its a mistake that it ask for it
[06:44] <ryanpg> or better yet... is there a channel where such questions are answered?
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> codecaine: It would help if you said what you are trying to install and where you got the deb.?
[06:45] <shadox> why can't i connect to my notebook via bluetooth :s stupid codes :s
[06:46] <Justy> !test
[06:46] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:46] <Justy> reptyle, now i am in no encrypted wlan with my ipw2200bg
[06:46] <Justy> it works
[06:47] <shadox> ?? :s no one works with bluetooth??
[06:47] <reptyle> Justy, have you tried network manager?
[06:47] <codecaine> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/statuscedega
[06:47] <Justy> yes but i think i couldnt do well
[06:47] <codecaine> sorry
[06:47] <codecaine> cedega
[06:48] <gpettit> I have a question regarding mkinitramfs is anyone gets a chance...
[06:48] <reptyle> Justy, rephrase last please.
[06:49] <Justy> !test
[06:49] <Justy> !test
[06:49] <Justy> !test
[06:49] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:49] <Justy> reptyle, now i am in no encrypted wlan with my ipw2200bg
[06:49] <Justy> it works
[06:49] <Justy> yes but i think i couldnt do well
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Justy: Please do not play with the bot
[06:49] <Justy> sorry i tested my connection
[06:50] <shadox> it seems my flash even doesn't work :s
[06:50] <shadox> omfg i'm getting crazy!!
[06:50] <Justy> reptyle,  what does rephrase last mean?
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[06:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: i was allready on it ;) but it DOESN'T work :)
[06:51] <reptyle> Justy, "yes but i think i couldnt do well" <-- makes no sense to me sorry.
[06:51] <unplugd> Help: Starting freeradius, and an error that appears is: "rlm_sql (sql): Make sure it (and all its dependent libraries) are in the search path of your system ld."
[06:51] <Justy> reptyle,  i did, it showed nothing
[06:52] <Justy> reptyle, once it showed only LAN
[06:52] <Justy> reptyle, then it showed nothing with an output: No network Device Detected
[06:52] <Justy> reptyle, Can you help me install it proparly please ?
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix or EasyUbuntu, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[06:53] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: nope, none of them
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[06:53] <Justy> reptyle,  and i am so sorry of my rudeness please forgive me :( i am so stressed nowadays have been working on wpa for 3 days..
[06:53] <EdgyEft> Justy: wpa is easy
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: What all have you done so far so we dont go over the same stuff again?
[06:53] <Justy> reptyle,  now i haven't got network-manager and others
[06:53] <Justy> EdgyEft, really?
[06:53] <EdgyEft> Justy: quite
[06:54] <EdgyEft> hmm, why am I still opped
[06:54] <Justy> EdgyEft, can you help me? i installed network manager wpa_supplicant and wpa_gui but didnt work now all of them are uninstalled
[06:54] <stoop> hey my mplayer says >> can't open audio device
[06:54] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: i've done as it is said in the wike (restricted formats => flash i386) did it even twice, yet i'm looking through the flash stand alone page
[06:54] <stoop> how would i fix that ?
[06:54] <Justy> EdgyEft, at least i couldnt make them work
[06:54] <CromagDK> !codecs
[06:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:55] <CromagDK> stoop: try there :)
[06:55] <stoop> i tried that
[06:55] <stoop> mplayer is installed
[06:55] <stoop> but not descent
[06:55] <CromagDK> tried another player ?
[06:55] <CromagDK> xmms ?
[06:55] <silent_scream> how can i change the splash screen and the grub screen?
[06:55] <stoop> another player plays
[06:55] <zaggynl> Hi, I'm unable to AGP working for my videocard, what should I do?
[06:55] <zaggynl> !agp
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <stoop> but i want mplayer to play now
[06:56] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow:  the stand alone flash is not what i'm looking for (just letting ya know)
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: You dont get agp working, agp is the bus your card plugs into...   What video card...model/chipset?
[06:56] <stoop> it says can't open audio device /dev/dsp device busy
[06:57] <Justy> EdgyEft, are you there ?
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa
[06:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:57] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, GFX: GF6600GT AGP 128MB,  Mobo: Asus A8V Deluxe
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: nvidia...
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[06:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:58] <Justy> EdgyEft, wpa_gui status is: Could not get status from wpa_supplicant
[06:58] <codecaine> is there a reason why glxgears doesn't show fps rates on my laptop nor my desktop?
[06:58] <stoop> yah alsa is selected
[06:58] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, yessir
[06:58] <jrib> !glxgears
[06:58] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !glxgears
[06:59] <unplugd> Help: Starting freeradius, and an error that appears is: "rlm_sql (sql): Make sure it (and all its dependent libraries) are in the search path of your system ld."
[06:59] <codecaine> I tried that still doesn't show them
[06:59] <codecaine> on either computer
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: Did you read that info on installing your nvidia driver
[06:59] <codecaine> yea installed it synaptics
[06:59] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: got an other question for you, just a small one, where do I set up my bluetooth connection, i can't find it in the menu's
[06:59] <codecaine> then configured the xorg.conf
[07:00] <codecaine> to nv
[07:00] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, funny thing is, I have installed the latest nvidia driver from their website, but direct rendering is off, and lspci | grep agp turns up nothing
[07:00] <codecaine> oh I get the rates now
[07:00] <codecaine> it took a while
[07:00] <codecaine> to display
[07:00] <codecaine> had to leave it running
[07:00] <codecaine> 14450 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2889.877 FPS
[07:00] <codecaine> does that sound good?
[07:00] <Justy> EdgyEft, could you help me please? please please
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: did you even try how we suggest?
[07:01] <codecaine> 19478 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3895.461 FPS
[07:01] <codecaine> thats about adverage I guess
[07:01] <Gilnim> question: why do I not get voice when I join the #freenode-social channel?
[07:02] <RogerRabb> 58005 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11584.049 FPS
[07:02] <nox-Hand> Hey
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> codecaine: that fps is fine
[07:02] <lonran> i am using wifi-radar and i am next to the acces point but i cant see the network, the card is working and is detected by ubuntu, i can see it with ifconfig, what can be the problem?
[07:02] <codecaine> wow thats nice rogerrabb
[07:02] <nox-Hand> with flashplayer, what fonts should be installed? I cant see the MTV Music Awards flash text :(
[07:02] <jrib> !fonts
[07:02] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[07:02] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[07:02] <Justy> !wpa
[07:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, I know nothing about setting up bluetooth
[07:02] <RogerRabb> all I had to do was sell my soul for that card codecaine ;D
[07:03] <sivik> when i'm installing ivtv for a haupauge tv tuner, it never will extract two of the .bin files i need
[07:03] <codecaine> I have a GeForce 7300 GS
[07:03] <RogerRabb> 7900gt
[07:03] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: got my flash working
[07:03] <nox-Hand> jrib: Thanks :)
[07:03] <codecaine> lets see what my laptop get on fps :p
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: What did you do?
[07:03] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow:  http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[07:04] <Psychobudgie> nox-Hand,  be aware that a lot of more recent flash movies and sites use flash 8 or 9 which do odd things like not showing text, no pictures but audio and the opposite
[07:04] <shadox> all pray the mighty google!!!!
[07:04] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, you mean installing it like it's said here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 ?
[07:04] <Psychobudgie> Flash 9 should be out for linux early next year
[07:04] <stoop> can't update packet tzdata via apt-get :$
[07:04] <shadox> yet my bluetooth, hmm
[07:04] <stoop> ther is a reference but no pakket
[07:04] <RogerRabb> beta testing will happen earlier than that Psychobudgie
[07:05] <codecaine> 16552 frams
[07:05] <codecaine> frames on my laptop
[07:05] <codecaine> :p
[07:05] <Psychobudgie> RogerRabb,  I'm hoping so
[07:05] <zaggynl> brb restarting gdm
[07:05] <nox-Hand> Psychobudgie: Yeah :(
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> shadox: Noted.. thanks...
[07:05] <RogerRabb> sorry, I said the will word.. testing may happen earlier than that :)
[07:05] <nox-Hand> jrib: msttcorefonts is refered to by another package?
[07:05] <codecaine> when im on gentoo my fps its way faster then ubuntu
[07:05] <jrib> nox-Hand: do you have dapper  multiverse?
[07:05] <codecaine> almost 4 times
[07:06] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: that's why we are here together :D to learn from eachother :d
[07:06] <marlun> My "less-then-sign", "greater-then-sign" button is not working for some reason, anyone have any tips? =) It's working in Windows.
[07:06] <nox-Hand> jrib: sec
[07:07] <nox-Hand> jrib: I think maybe automatix removed it completely from sources.list? I cant see multiverse :o
[07:07] <jrib> !easysource > nox-Hand
[07:07] <changleguo> good night!
[07:08] <nox-Hand> jrib: Thanks
[07:08] <shadox> brb
[07:08] <Maffen> hi
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia    is what I was thinking, not sure how much they are the same
[07:08] <Maffen> I have a question :) (offcourse ;))
[07:09] <holy_cow> How do I request a specific version of software using apt-get (I want Vim7 and it comes with edgy but I have dapper)
[07:09] <marlun> What in Ubuntu can cause a button on the keyboard to stop working?
[07:09] <Maffen> i'm following this howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.06_dtc_isp_server, but when i want to install the .deb file created of cvs, I get an error that i need php5-pear, but php-pear is installed, but still gives that error...
[07:09] <Maffen> and php5-pear links to php-pear :/
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> nox-Hand: Automatix is the WORST things you can run on your system
[07:11] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[07:11] <jbroome> next to win98
[07:11] <marlun> If I click CTRL+ALT+F2 for example the key works, but not inside ubuntu desktop.
[07:12] <Daniel_X> Hello everyone
[07:13] <ephemeros> hello
[07:13] <changleguo> i'm a english learner and who want talk with me
[07:13] <nickspoon> changleguo: arr!
[07:13] <changleguo> arr! what?
[07:13] <Justy> EdgyEft, =( ...
[07:13] <krazykit> changleguo: today isn't the day to learn ;-)  it's talk like a pirate day
[07:13] <Daniel_X> I just installed kubuntu on an old box, and the resolution is 640 x 480.. how would I change that?
[07:14] <KanRiNiN> Hey, can someone help me figure out why my hibernate isn't functioning?
[07:14] <stoop> i can't seem to get win32codecs with apt-get ... what's the best sources.list for this ?
[07:15] <stoop> can't seem to manage
[07:15] <changleguo> Daniel_X, i just meet the same problem , i solve this problem by re-install
[07:16] <we2by> !flash
[07:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:16] <dennisharrison> Daniel_X, xrandr -s 800x600
[07:17] <changleguo> Daniel_X ,su root
[07:17] <changleguo> cd  /etc/x11
[07:17] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm is there a rep with X11R7.1 ? and if so address?
[07:17] <zaggynl> Well I tried this Envy script, and it installed all nice and so and I have X back, but still no AGP in 'lspci | grep agp' and no direct rendering :(
[07:18] <changleguo> emaces XF86config-4
[07:18] <krazykit> changleguo: root is disabled by default in ubuntu, and ubuntu uses xorg, so it's xorg.conf
[07:18] <jrizzy> can someone tell me how to get the mythTV package?
[07:18] <jrizzy> i cant find it any of my repositories
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> stoop: wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[07:18] <stoop> thkx
[07:18] <Daniel_X> dennisharrison : wow. not something a new user would guess. let me try, be just a second
[07:18] <cliffd> can ubuntu install rpm's ?
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> stoop: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[07:19] <changleguo> apt-get--purge remove xserver-xorg
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> stoop: It was right there in the help docs that were linked for you..
[07:19] <krazykit> cliffd: sorta.  it's better if there's a deb available, but you can use alien to convert them.
[07:19] <Justy> EdgyEft, =( ...
[07:19] <dennisharrison> changleguo, wtf are you trying to do?
[07:19] <stoop> Jack but i tried doing it with apt-get
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> alien is hit or miss
[07:19] <cliffd> krazykit: thanks.
[07:20] <stoop> i thought i saw a pussycat the other day
[07:20] <stoop> but lost the link7
[07:20] <lonran> how do i connect with a wireless acces point? the card is already workin and detected
[07:21] <havenoclu> has anyone seen a "laggy" tap-to-click issue with the synaptics driver?? As in...you tap-to-click, and it doesn't register the click on the screen instantaneously..
[07:21] <havenoclu> it takes a quarter-second or so for clicks to register
[07:21] <Daniel_X> huh. didn't go, and xrandr with no args says my two modes are 640x480 and 320x240
[07:21] <Moodles> is there a scandisk-like program for ubuntu I can use on an already mounted drive im using at the moment?
[07:21] <krazykit> havenoclu: your system might be under heavy load
[07:22] <ajopaul> hi which is a better non OO viewer for PPT files?
[07:22] <stoop> euh jack_Sparrow any reason after installing those w32codecs ... xmms still don't play wma ?
[07:22] <Daniel_X> this is an ati card that gave me 1024 in windows 2000
[07:22] <havenoclu> no..this is just a laptop doing nothing
[07:22] <jrizzy> can someone tell me how to get the mythTV package?
[07:22] <jrizzy> i cant find it any of my repositories
[07:23] <jrizzy> i want to move from MCE to Ubuntu and use myth
[07:23] <sivik> jrizzy, i'm currently downloading it, did you uncomment or add any repos to your sources.list
[07:23] <nickspoon> stoop: I don't think it works with XMMS. you probably need a plug-in, normally named xmms-something
[07:23] <jrizzy> sivik:: i did uncomment the last 2 entries
[07:23] <havenoclu> if i click the actual mouse button under the touchpad, it is instantaneous
[07:23] <nickspoon> jrizzy: do you have universe and multiverse repositories?
[07:23] <stoop> thkx nickspoon
[07:23] <havenoclu> i wonder if it's just waiting to see if im gonna double click?
[07:23] <jrizzy> nickspoon::  i have whatever ubuntu comes with by default and i uncommented the last 2
[07:24] <nickspoon> right.
[07:24] <jrizzy> is that correct? sorry im new to ubuntu
[07:24] <jrizzy> or maybe i just need the name of the mythTV package
[07:25] <jrizzy> ha
[07:25] <stoop> in software-properties
[07:25] <hydrozen> Can I get a 1280x800 resolution without installing the ati drivers? I've been trying for hours to install the drivers but everytime X doesnt want to start.... i dont care all that much about 3d, but if i could at least get out of 1024x768 it would at least be that!
[07:25] <stoop> set universe and multiverse on
[07:25] <jrizzy> kk
[07:25] <nickspoon> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !wma
[07:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:25] <ajopaul> jrizzy, try sudo apt-cache search mythtv and do sudo apt-get install mythtv
[07:25] <sivik> jrizzy; uncomment most of all the repos there and then run apt-get update
[07:26] <Jack_Sparrow> stoop: There is more to the restricted formats than just the w32codecs
[07:26] <sivik> ajopaul, he can't find it cause he hasn't opened the correct repos yet
[07:26] <stoop> k jack ... i got a weird issue tho
[07:26] <jrizzy> k just did that
[07:26] <stoop> totem plays dvd but sounds only for a sec ther
[07:26] <cliffd> anyone know of a groupwise client. evolution needs soap to connect to groupwise 7 and they dont run soap at work.. any alternitives? thanks.
[07:26] <jrizzy> they are open now i think
[07:26] <Daniel_X> hydrozen : similar prob here.. low res on ati card
[07:27] <mrbrdo> hello
[07:27] <mrbrdo> i am experiencing some sound lag when (and only then) i use my external sound card
[07:27] <hydrozen> Daniel_X: there must be something that can be done...
[07:27] <zaggynl> Could anyone help me with this AGP problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1518677#post1518677
[07:28] <mrbrdo> when playing an mp3 for example, it stops for 1-2secs every 30 secs or so
[07:28] <mrbrdo> how can i increase the sound buffer
[07:28] <Daniel_X> hydrozen : i know the card is old, but as i said, i got the higher res in windows
[07:28] <unplugd> Help: Starting freeradius, and an error that appears is: "rlm_sql (sql): Make sure it (and all its dependent libraries) are in the search path of your system ld." Somebody know what I can do?
[07:28] <hydrozen> yeah well mine is brand new
[07:29] <Bonzodog> unplugd: there is a file called ld.so.conf
[07:29] <Bonzodog> in /etc
[07:29] <hydrozen> i wont keep this laptop if i cant get x to run at 1280x800
[07:29] <comtech> hydrozen, search google for a mode line then
[07:29] <Bonzodog> make sure the path to sql is in that file
[07:29] <sivik> hydrozen, what type of video card?
[07:29] <mrbrdo> someone plz, how do i increase the sound buffer?
[07:29] <hydrozen> mobility radeon X1600
[07:30] <jrizzy> is the package name libmyth-0.18.1c2a?
[07:30] <gneral> s.a
[07:30] <gneral> hi
[07:30] <sivik> hydrozen, you might be screwed
[07:30] <sivik> jrizzy; there should be a package called mythtv
[07:30] <unplugd> Bonzog: I can't find it. Only a file named ld.so.cache
[07:30] <sivik> hydrozen, ati in linux = doesn't work
[07:30] <hydrozen> yeah that's what i've been finding out in the last few days
[07:30] <sivik> hydrozen, what brand computer?
[07:31] <Bonzodog> hrm...maybe ubuntu doesn't have ld.so.conf....
[07:31] <Daniel_X> mine's an old ati rage II mach 64
[07:31] <Bonzodog> damn it, not using ubuntu now, I know slack has it
[07:31] <hydrozen> acer aspire 5110
[07:31] <Daniel_X> you'd think old hardware would be well known
[07:32] <shadox> smacky_wolf: i got a picture of my probleme
[07:32] <Bonzodog> Daniel_X: there is an ATI64 driver for X
[07:32] <Jack_Sparrow> You live by a script... you die by a script...  Learn the right way may take a little longer, but it is worth it.
[07:32] <Bonzodog> it's included by default in X itself
[07:32] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: this is what i was talking about yesterday
[07:32] <smacky_wolf> Shadox: oH?
[07:32] <Bonzodog> normally the ati driver should just work
[07:32] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow: smacky_wolf:  http://shadox.ifastnet.com/ubuntu
[07:32] <lonran> how can i connect to a wireless access point?
[07:32] <Daniel_X> Bonzodog : i agree. It should.
[07:32] <tomcatt> !kxdocker
[07:32] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[07:33] <jrib> unplugd: you installed freeradius from the repositories?
[07:33] <Bonzodog> thats the integrated ati driver
[07:33] <Bonzodog> just called 'ati'
[07:33] <shadox> Jack_Sparrow:  smacky_wolf: as you can see, the log off button and the reboot button are gone :s
[07:33] <denton> hi, it is possible to have DRI enabled on ATI XPRESS 200M with opensource ati driver?
[07:33] <unplugd> jrib: no
[07:33] <ZondeR> hi, I can access the windows computer beside thanks to the window "server network", how can I access it through command line?
[07:33] <Daniel_X> Bonzodog : so how can i force it to give me higher resolution?
[07:34] <jrib> !info freeradius
[07:34] <ubotu> freeradius: a high-performance and highly configurable RADIUS server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1343 kB, installed size 4252 kB
[07:34] <jrib> unplugd: try the repository version, it's in the universe repository
[07:34] <shadox> smacky_wolf: any idea's?
[07:34] <we2by> did any one found some program to change the wallpaper every 5 min like OS X?
[07:34] <Bonzodog> Daniel_X: it may be a limitation of the old driver for X; resolution limitation were common years ago
[07:34] <jrib> we2by: wallpapoz
[07:34] <stealg> how can i run my wireless internet conection ?
[07:35] <jrib> we2by: it's not in the repositories though, so you'll have to google
[07:35] <shadox> we2by: int kde it's default
[07:35] <Bonzodog> that driver would have been reverse engineered
[07:35] <jfro> how can i restore the xserver install of an unbuntu machine? it's blacking out even tho i'm pretty sure i changed it back to normal
[07:35] <shadox> *in
[07:35] <smacky_wolf> Shadox: none o.o
[07:35] <jfro> tried a dpkg-reconfigure
[07:36] <shadox> smacky_wolf: i can't log off my notebook that way neither can't i reboot it :( (i have to do it via the terminal)
[07:36] <Bonzodog> jfro: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change the driver section to 'vesa'; it will then be able to start X, albeit, badly, and possibly low res
[07:36] <mrbrdo> please help me my sound lags when playing mp3
[07:36] <smacky_wolf> Why don't you just shut it down, then?
[07:36] <jfro> Bonzodog: i'll try that
[07:36] <mrbrdo> when using my usb sound card
[07:36] <finalbeta> How does carma on launchpad get calculated? 10857 << How on earth do they come to that.
[07:37] <jfro> it was working fine until tried to switch to the 'nvidia' driver
[07:37] <mrbrdo> when i use my integrated sound card it works
[07:37] <jfro> but switching back to 'nv' is failing too
[07:37] <mrbrdo> but when i use my usb card my sound lags when i play mp3s
[07:37] <Bonzodog> mrbrdo: no-one here knows anything about external sound cards; look through the ALSO
[07:37] <Bonzodog> ALSA docs
[07:37] <nickwhatever> Hello! I am not experienced with linux enough and need some help. How do I share my printer using CUPS through the SMB protocol?
[07:37] <mrbrdo> Bonzodog: i just want to increase the buffer so it won't lag anymore plz
[07:37] <nvl-> !help
[07:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:37] <vishwanath> gg
[07:37] <smacky_wolf> afmelden is logout...
[07:37] <zaggynl> !fixmyproblem
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixmyproblem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <Bonzodog> I've been on linux for 10 years and don't know how to change the sound buffer
[07:38] <zaggynl> Could someone help me? problem description: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1518677#post1518677
[07:38] <mrbrdo> -_- i can't find anything on the forums
[07:38] <shadox> smacky_wolf: yes you use that to euhm let an other user log in with his account
[07:39] <stoop> mplayer says no sound
[07:39] <stoop> how do i debug fix that ?
[07:39] <smacky_wolf> Ah...
[07:39] <smacky_wolf> Switch.
[07:39] <shadox> stoop: try win32 codecs
[07:39] <stoop> i have em
[07:40] <shadox> smacky_wolf: yes like that :D
[07:40] <Daniel_X> Bonzodog : ok, thanks. I'll go on the forums and search, and perhaps post my question
[07:40] <stoop> it plays w32 only mplayer complains of no sound
[07:40] <Daniel_X> It seems silly that this doesn't work out of the box
[07:40] <smacky_wolf> Shadox: I don't use gnome, so...
[07:40] <Bend4rt> is there an easier distro than ubuntu  cause this is just not working...
[07:40] <zaggynl> Bend4rt, Knoppix
[07:40] <shadox> brb
[07:40] <zaggynl> out of the box pwnage
[07:40] <nvl-> !libebml
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libebml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <nvl-> !libmatroska
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmatroska - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <Daniel_X> Thanks for the help, guys
[07:41] <nickwhatever> does not ubuntu have a samba server pre-installed?
[07:41] <nickspoon> yes.
[07:41] <lucijan> hi, is there any file where i can set the default key and essid for a pcmcia wlan card?
[07:42] <nickwhatever> I mean, I know how to share a printer on a MAC and a Windows running PC. But on ubuntu, I can't find any GUI to help me =/
[07:42] <nickspoon> what DE are you using, GNOME or KDE?
[07:42] <stoop> when thers something wrong with mplayer >> like no sound
[07:42] <stoop> how di resolve that ?
[07:42] <nickspoon> stoop: it mrs
[07:42] <nickspoon> means
[07:42] <nickspoon> something's using the sound device.
[07:43] <stoop> how i free the sound device
[07:43] <stoop> nothing is playing o0
[07:43] <nickspoon> so try 'aoss mplayer'
[07:44] <stoop> nothing
[07:44] <zaggynl> I'm stuck without direct rendering, can anyone help??
[07:45] <zaggynl> I've provider a lot of info at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1518677#post1518677
[07:45] <zaggynl> *provided
[07:46] <jrib> stoop: mplayer -ao alsa /path/to/some/file
[07:47] <jfro> hmm
[07:47] <jfro> so what do i do if ubuntu starts, and goes to blank screen when trying to do X, and i can't get to a virtual console
[07:48] <hockyhair> !pdf
[07:48] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[07:48] <smacky_wolf> jfro: nvidia?
[07:48] <jfro> nv
[07:48] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: It looks like that script you used to install the drivers was the start of the problem
[07:48] <jfro> it started with nvidia but we removed that
[07:48] <hockyhair> what is the adobe reader pkg called?
[07:48] <jfro> and switched back to nv
[07:48] <jfro> and it's still black screening
[07:48] <jrib> hockyhair: evince or xpdf imo
[07:48] <stoop> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[07:49] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, well, I tried installing drivers by hand before the script
[07:49] <Daniel_X> Bonzodog : I found my answer in a forum..
[07:49] <smacky_wolf> Adobe also provide the original Acrobat for linu
[07:49] <jrib> hockyhair: oh wait you want the actual adobe one?  that's acroread
[07:49] <hockyhair> ok
[07:49] <Daniel_X> bit depth set to 24 by default.. soon as i changed it to 16, all is well
[07:49] <zaggynl> brb killing gdm
[07:49] <jrib> stoop: does other stuff have sound?  maybe try esd instead of alsa if you have esd running
[07:49] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: the drivers from Ubuntu as linked here or from the nvidia site?
[07:49] <zaggynl> both
[07:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[07:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <stoop> other stuff got sound
[07:50] <stoop> that's the weird part
[07:50] <Daniel_X> Not something a home user should be expected to guess, though.
[07:50] <smacky_wolf> stoop: it sounds like it's trying to use a random driver that doesn't work
[07:50] <Ma1> hey did anyone got problems since the update?
[07:50] <zaggynl> It ain't Wizard-noob-proof, but it's getting damn close
[07:51] <stoop> smacky how do i tell it what's right driver ? or how do i test that ?
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: Post your sources.list to the !Pastebin
[07:51] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, will do
[07:52] <Daniel_X> So, just thought I'd share that. Hope it helps someone
[07:52] <q0z> Hello
[07:52] <Cyball> hi @all can somebody help me please with RaLink rt2500 Mini PCI WLAN card ??? after activating the card my keybord doesn't work and the WLAN doesn't work too so i don't know how to handle it ??? THX !!!
[07:53] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.ca/176479
[07:53] <zaggynl> better replace pastebin.com with pastebin.ca, way faster
[07:53] <zaggynl> killing gdm now to test something
[07:53] <smacky_wolf> stoop, open mplayer. Right click in the window. go preferences. go to audio. Try random drivers till you find one that works. use "default" as the devie where ytou can
[07:54] <XplOzIon> hi
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:55] <XplOzIon> can someone tell me what is the name that open ssl binaries has is the repositories?
[07:55] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, any clues?
[07:55] <jbroome> apt-cache search openssl | less
[07:55] <stoop> how do i uninstall with apt-get ?
[07:55] <zaggynl> remove
[07:55] <stoop> i'll try reinstall it then
[07:55] <zaggynl> 'sudo apt-get remove <package>'
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: I wont be of any help.  Too many things going on there,
[07:56] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, okay
[07:57] <chestersx> hiho
[07:57] <zaggynl> hai
[07:58] <stoop> still same error after reinstalling
[07:58] <stoop> how do i forece a reconfigure ?
[07:58] <Ma1> how can i do to uninstall my ati drivers?
[07:59] <ajopaul> hi hv a strange problem ctrl-f6 key doesnt work in eclipse when using xfce but its fine in gnome?
[07:59] <holycow> guys ... if one wanted a popup of some sort on a computer terminal BEFORE being able to login screen ... say terms of service ... how would one do that with gdm?
[08:00] <empty_mind> is security.ubuntu.com down ?
[08:02] <XplOzIon> stoop: dpkg --reconfigure packename
[08:02] <Jack_Sparrow> holycow: You could add some terms of service to the grub menu
[08:02] <nickwhatever> Hey, it's me again.
[08:03] <smacky_wolf> holycow, MOTD =3
[08:03] <smacky_wolf> \holycow, or are you talking local access?
[08:03] <zaggynl> Anyone familiar with getting via-agp to work?
[08:04] <jimcooncat> I'm stuck in apache hell again, can someone talk me through enabling cgi-bin?
[08:04] <AZzKikR> some sites or tutorials or whatever always instruct me to forward output to /dev/null ... understandable, but sometimes, a couple of other character are appended with it like: '2& 1' or something. Where can i find a explanation of those things?
[08:04] <nickwhatever> could someone talk me throug hsetting up a printer server?
[08:05] <Maffen> have did a dpkg -i package, but it failed, i worked at the source, but now if i do it again, i don't get the screen back
[08:05] <Maffen> dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work, because it failed to install
[08:06] <clusty> i am having some trouble using httrack: how can I make it take everyuthing starting from some folder (V3D) excluding links that are in some folder(TWiki)?
[08:06] <clusty> what wildcard matches?
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !cups
[08:07] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:07] <jfro> agh, it's still locking the screen up
[08:07] <jfro> how do you do run level 3 at startup
[08:08] <jimcooncat> never mind, forgot to restart apache. good day to all!
[08:09] <Ma1> hey I need help
[08:09] <clusty> say
[08:09] <Ma1> this is simple
[08:09] <Ma1> I just want to uninstall my ati drivers
[08:09] <Ma1> but I don't know where they are
[08:10] <Gradius9>  Hi, I have some questions about wpa and Ubuntu, I am gone trough the beginning of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo and have a DWL-510 card that works with ubuntu... But cannot find wher I can connect to the wireless network
[08:10] <gunnar> Anyone haveing problems with X crashing after doing a dist upgrade?
[08:11] <clusty> Ma1, the drivers are compiled in the kernel
[08:11] <Ma1> no, but I have problems with ati driverts
[08:11] <clusty> Ma1, are you using the standard ubuntu kernel?
[08:11] <Ma1> so I have to recompile them?
[08:11] <Ma1> yes
[08:11] <Ma1> since the update problem drivers doesnt works
[08:12] <amarokker> is it possible to use the package download script generated by synaptic in windows?
[08:12] <Ma1> fglrxinfo give me Mesa wich is way to slow for me
[08:12] <amarokker> say, using a download manager- or wget port for w32
[08:13] <clusty> Ma1, you just have to blacklist module
[08:13] <clusty> Ma1, do a lsmod and check module name
[08:13] <Ma1> ok
[08:13] <clusty> any111111111?
[08:13] <clusty> httrack?
[08:14] <Ma1> clusty, I have tons of modules, which one is the one?
[08:14] <nickwhatever> commenting out using #?
[08:14] <nickwhatever> or //?
[08:15] <clusty> Ma1, radeon card?
[08:15] <Ma1> ye
[08:15] <clusty> try lsmod|grep radeon
[08:15] <we2by> is there a taskbar alternative to the one gnome has?
[08:15] <nickwhatever> err? KDe?
[08:15] <Ma1> nothing
[08:15] <iocaste> I'm trying to access the BIOS on my Ubuntu machine, which requires press the <DEL> key at boot. However, I'm using the Linux box with an Apple USB keyboard that doesn't have a DEL key. Anything I can do to access the bios without buying a new keyboard?
[08:16] <nickwhatever> yes, connect an old one
[08:16] <iocaste> well, i don't have an old one either
[08:16] <Ma1> clusty, lsmod|grep ati give me cpufreq_conservative
[08:16] <JosefK> never, ever buy a dell guys.
[08:16] <nickwhatever> I know
[08:16] <Ma1> is it for the conservATIve?
[08:16] <nickwhatever> I just ordered my MAcBook with two gigs of ram
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: we know
[08:16] <i4get2> dude whats wrong with my dell?
[08:16] <reinhard> is it possible to acitvate an adressline in nautilus where i can directly write in my path like "/path/to/bla"?
[08:16] <clusty> Ma1, do radeon
[08:17] <amarokker> JosefK: even after they adapt athlon processors?
[08:17] <Ma1> radeon does nothing
[08:17] <clusty> think module is called radeonfb
[08:17] <clusty> cant help you there now :-(
[08:17] <JosefK> amarokker: I don't know anything about the computers, they still haven't even bothered delivering mine..
[08:17] <clusty> not running ubuntu here
[08:17] <Ma1> ok thank you
[08:17] <we2by> where do I change the gnome splash??
[08:18] <amarokker> heh, JosefK- where are you? i had mine delivered while i was in UK- in about 3 weeks- i think it was shipped from ireland
[08:18] <i4get2> system prefernce
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[08:18] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:18] <JosefK> I'm in the UK now amarokker, Walsh Western just lied to me all day about the status of it
[08:18] <i4get2> hmm funny edgy doesnt like my wireless???....hmmm
[08:19] <amarokker> how'd you place the order? i did by phone- so kept buggering the sales person till it arrived
[08:19] <JosefK> heh, over the net, it's dispatched from Dell, but the courier guys couldn't tell their arse from their elbow
[08:19] <lectus> What's the minimal hardware specs to run Ubuntu?
[08:19] <gizmo_the_great1> Trying to launch the Firefox Profile manager using 'mozilla-firefox -profilemanager' and I get "run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /opt/firefox/mozilla-firefox-bin." - any ideas?
[08:20] <nickwhatever> AH GREAT
[08:20] <nickwhatever> I hate using a school laptop
[08:20] <nickspoon> JosefK: Dell delivery takes forever and is much too expensive.
[08:20] <nickwhatever> I can't even add printers using HTTP
[08:20] <JosefK> promised delivery by 12pm today, and they kept saying all day "It'll be with you by 6".  bs :/
[08:20] <jalla> i got Xgl to work, but only the wobbling effect, none of the keyboard commands work. Anyone know what i should do?
[08:20] <JosefK> *12am
[08:21] <justdave> are there any 1920x1200 themes available for usplash (or is my setup just broken?)  When I boot I get "No valid themes for 1920x1200 found" instead of a splash screen (in Edgy)
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[08:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:22] <tomcatt> !cvs
[08:22] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[08:22] <PubiX> hmm
[08:22] <jalla> i got Xgl to work, but only the wobbling effect, none of the keyboard commands work. Anyone know what i should do?
[08:22] <boink> !schedule
[08:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:22] <we2by> is there a taskbar alternative to the one gnome has?
[08:22] <botxj> i love the gnome taskbar
[08:23] <jalla> i got Xgl to work, but only the wobbling effect, none of the keyboard commands work. Anyone know what i should do?
[08:23] <codecaine> what file do I edit to have something start up when gnome desktop is loaded?
[08:23] <reptyle> gizmo_the_great1, its firefox -ProfileManager (its case sensitive) but the /opt/blah/blah error your receiving seems to indicate you installed different version of firefox that is not the ubuntu default version.
[08:23] <botxj> dont the keyboard commands come standard in XGL?
[08:23] <codecaine> have to change refresh reate jalla probably
[08:23] <codecaine> rate
[08:23] <jalla> i did, to 60
[08:23] <pradeep> jalla, #ubuntu-xgl
[08:23] <jalla> how do i enter that?
[08:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> I can't run sudo update-flashplugin to get my flash working, I'm following ubuntuguide.org's directions. Any ideas?
[08:24] <botxj> whoa there's a XGL channel for ubuntu!
[08:24] <botxj> OMG how many ubuntu channels are there man?!
[08:24] <nickwhatever> Oh by the way
[08:24] <FlyingSquirrel32> botxj: what is it?
[08:24] <pradeep> jalla, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:24] <nickwhatever> that printerserver guide did not work at all
[08:24] <botxj> FlyingSquirrel32 how many ubuntu channels are in this network?
[08:24] <codecaine> anybody know what file loads files on startup on the xsession?
[08:24] <nickwhatever> The other computer still won't add the printer
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> FlyingSquirrel32: a user got his working with this this morning  http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[08:24] <nickwhatever> It says It can't connect
[08:25] <Unimatrix9> hallo there
[08:25] <der0b> codecaine, what are you trying to do?
[08:25] <codecaine> 3ddesk --acquire=100
[08:25] <FlyingSquirrel32> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, I'll try that.
[08:25] <codecaine> when my pc start up so I don't ahve to do it manual
[08:25] <Unimatrix9> installed ubuntu server...
[08:25] <Unimatrix9> but how can i get files into the apache server?
[08:25] <codecaine> I know rcbash is for the terminal
[08:26] <Unimatrix9> there is no webmin, no ftp, so how?
[08:26] <Unimatrix9> any tips would be welcome...
[08:26] <der0b> You can go to sessions under system > prefs (I think, not in front of ubuntu box, but that's close).  you can then add start-up programs or tell it to save sessions
[08:26] <WaqasToor> any tips on cdma internet configurations ... using serial port
[08:26] <Paddy_EIRE> when i shutdown my comp it says "unregistered net device : waiting for vmnet 1 to become free.  Usage count=1" then it sits like this for a while then it repeats until I have to hold in the power button to turn off :( anyone any ideas
[08:26] <botxj> how many ubuntu channels are on this network?
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nickwhatever:   Look this link over...   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[08:26] <CommonlyKnownAsK> bOOOYAH
[08:26] <der0b> codecaine, You can go to sessions under system > prefs (I think, not in front of ubuntu box, but that's close).  you can then add start-up programs or tell it to save sessions
[08:26] <reptyle> Unimatrix9, ssh would be a start, scp is "secure copy" which will allow you to copy files to and from machines running an ssh server.
[08:27] <CommonlyKnownAsK> Someone tell me how to get on the other thinggyy?
[08:27] <codecaine> ok ty
[08:27] <Unimatrix9> reptyle, thanx for the answer, is ssh the best option?
[08:27] <WaqasToor> soo
[08:27] <PubiX> do i have to reformat my computer in order to partition it, or can i partition the hd safely even though data is already on it?
[08:27] <WaqasToor> i want to connect to internet through my cdma phone
[08:28] <Unimatrix9> then i will have to get some understanding about that i guess
[08:28] <reptyle> Unimatrix9, for security yes it is.
[08:28] <PseudoPlacebo> How do I find out what my processor speed is from the terminal?
[08:28] <jbroome> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:28] <Unimatrix9> ok
[08:28] <Unimatrix9> :)
[08:28] <FlyingSquirrel32> botxj: There are 86 ubuntu* channels on this server. (I counted them :) )
[08:29] <botxj> FlyingSquirrel32 HOLY COW BELLS BATMAN!
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> PubiX: That is a loaged question...   What partitions are currently on the system and how full are they?
[08:29] <Jaak_> is it possible to add get a keyboard key to start an ap?
[08:29] <CommonlyKnownAsK> Ummmmmm HELP.
[08:29] <CommonlyKnownAsK> :)
[08:30] <der0b> is there some place I can look to find out what the plans are for posting an update firefox and thunderbird package for ubuntu?
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> CommonlyKnownAsK: Your questions did not make sense to me...
[08:30] <FlyingSquirrel32> Jack_Sparrow: When I go to the adobe site the link you gave me links to, adobe says their site is down for scheduled maintenance. I'll try again later. Thanks.
[08:30] <tritium> der0b: updates occur at new releases, or for security fixes
[08:30] <CommonlyKnownAsK> how do i get the place thats like about chatting and not about ubuntu?
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> FlyingSquirrel32: sorry, it was up just minutes ago
[08:31] <jpjacobs> CommonlyKnownAsK, try /join <other channel>
[08:31] <nickwhatever> And the printers name is the one I chosed when I added the printer right?
[08:31] <Hoxzer_> after package updates my Xorg logfile says that /dev/wacom doesn't exist and I'm not able to boot to x
[08:31] <CommonlyKnownAsK> <other channel>
[08:31] <denton> hi, it is possible to have DRI enabled on ATI XPRESS 200M with opensource ati driver?
[08:31] <Paddy_EIRE> got it, it was the vmware-player....I just removed it
[08:31] <CommonlyKnownAsK> oops
[08:31] <der0b> tritium, I understand that, there's a security release available for FF & TB (came out last week).  I was just wondering (and I'm suprised) that ubuntu hasn't created a package for it.  thought there might be a blog or post about it.
[08:32] <CommonlyKnownAsK> it doesnt work
[08:32] <zaggynl> Hi I'm getting an error while trying to launch gdm, it says I have to reinstall my X Nvidia driver, I can't figure out which thing that is with apt
[08:32] <tritium> der0b: not that I am aware of
[08:32] <jpjacobs> CommonlyKnownAsK, where ofcourse, you substitute the <other channel> with the channel you actually want to go to...
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> CommonlyKnownAsK: /join #Ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <gnomefreak> der0b: not yet it was just made available like yesterday
[08:33] <CommonlyKnownAsK> yeah thats itt
[08:33] <CommonlyKnownAsK> hahaha ima dick sorry! Thanks for your help!
[08:33] <der0b> gnomefreak, fedora updated last fridat
[08:33] <der0b> *friday
[08:33] <Jaak_> what can be the reason that ubu suddenly doesnt find any ms shared folders?
[08:33] <Paddy_EIRE> is "gdesklets" a performance hog??
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I tried it but wasnt happy with it..
[08:34] <FlyingSquirrel32> Jaak_: yeah, I think so, I think you have to get into the configuration of metacity if I recall correctly, but I don't remember exactly and I can't seem to find the configuration manager I used.
that launcher bar is kinda like the mac's....kinda nice
[08:35] <gnomefreak> from what i read it was released late sunday. We are not fedora. and just like the 1.5.0.6 never was released for ubuntu but the patches are in the 1.5.0.5 they might beable to do that again
[08:35] <vortik> hello :)
[08:35] <Jaak_> FlyingSquirrel32: Yesterday it worked fine! But it just suddenly stopped showing other folders
[08:35] <der0b> thanks gnomefreak, I was just wondering.  I'll go and be patient :)
[08:36] <nickwhatever> hahaha
[08:36] <nickwhatever> No wonder the thing ain't working
[08:36] <nickwhatever> It's not even connected to the LAN
[08:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> Jaak_: Before I think it had the icon of a car getting maintenance, but I don't see it anymore, perhaps it was removed n an update
[08:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> Jaak_: I'm talking about running an app with keyboard
[08:36] <WaqasToor>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:37] <Jaak_> FlyingSquirrel32: Ok lol
[08:37] <M_A_K> I have a laptop with a external monitor port (rgb).  When I connect a projector to the port and restart (the projector doesn't show the screen unless it is connected before bootup), the laptop monitor is black and the projector shows the desktop. Can someone help me do spanning or even mirroring.  I want to view both the projected and the laptop screen.
[08:37] <der0b> Jaak_, I believe the command you're looking for is gconf-editor
[08:37] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  I updated my kernel, and reinstalled the ATI drivers.  now to make sure they work I was gonna reboot, but when I click the power button there's only a hibernate sign
[08:37] <KanRiNiN> what's up?
[08:37] <earthian> could someone help me find and fix a problem with my Xorg?? i have a log, xorg.conf file. problem is that there is no acceleration. mesa is used instead of my R481 card
[08:38] <WaqasToor> so no body told me about internet on a cdma phone
[08:38] <WaqasToor> has any body tried it ????
[08:38] <Jaak_> FlyingSquirrel32: Ok derOb gave it to me (it has the car) gconf-editor
[08:38] <FlyingSquirrel32> der0b: Jaak_ :Yeah, that's it. Now where to make the change is another story
[08:38] <Jaak_> derOb: thanks
[08:38] <Unimatrix9> whats an cdma phone?
[08:38] <KanRiNiN> Has anybody heard of a similar problem?
[08:39] <tritium> Unimatrix9: CDMA = code division multiple access (a standard used in the U.S.)
[08:39] <Jaak_> is gconf-editor like the reg editor?
[08:39] <reptyle> KanRiNiN, are you using XGL?
[08:39] <WaqasToor> ok its wireless phone ... like advance version of cd ma ... meaning code division multiplexing
[08:39] <Unimatrix9> reptyle, thanx again, got ssh working now, why is it not installed by default on ubuntu LAMP?
[08:39] <Unimatrix9> :)
[08:39] <fredl> Hrmm
[08:40] <WaqasToor> so any body has idea how to configure cdma phone on serial
[08:40] <earthian> could someone help me find and fix a problem with my graphics?? i have a log, xorg.conf file. problem is that there is no acceleration. mesa is used instead of my R481 card
[08:40] <Unimatrix9> any way its up and running..
[08:40] <Unimatrix9> ;)
[08:40] <WaqasToor> wvdial configurations about serial modem ????
[08:40] <fredl> earthian, is that an ATI card?
[08:40] <shadox> ok i'm back
[08:40] <earthian> yea
[08:40] <earthian> radeon x850xt
[08:40] <shadox> yet who is the ubuntu expert in this room :D
[08:40] <KanRiNiN> reptyle: No.  I simply reinstalled the ATI drivers after a kernel update and now my reboot and shutdown buttons are gone
[08:40] <Unimatrix9> shadox is the ubuntu expert
[08:41] <Unimatrix9> :)
[08:41] <KanRiNiN> I could just shutdown -r
[08:41] <shadox> lol noway :p
[08:41] <KanRiNiN> but I want them back
[08:41] <kingpanga> HELP PLS ! any way to write on NTFS DISC
[08:41] <fredl> earthian - you read ubuntuguide?
[08:41] <Unimatrix9> you will after an year or so!
[08:41] <earthian> yea
[08:41] <Unimatrix9> ;)
[08:41] <earthian> nothing helps
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: Bad idea
[08:41] <earthian> or i miss smth
[08:41] <shadox> it was supossed to be a question :D cuz i got a mysterieus problem
[08:41] <earthian> can i show you my configs and logs?
[08:41] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[08:41] <fredl> earthian, you using the ati driver or the fglrx driver?
[08:41] <Samuli^> has anyone here installed the ntfs-3g driver?
[08:41] <shadox> yes may be :D we will rule the linux world togehter :p:d
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > kingpanga
[08:41] <fredl> earthian, pastebin
[08:41] <CromagDK> *harrrrrr*
[08:42] <earthian> !paste
[08:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:42] <Unimatrix9> ok, i call it a day, bye
[08:42] <Unimatrix9>  bye
[08:42] <[x] > how do i do that thingy again? the ubunto off topic.
[08:42] <KanRiNiN> Samuli^: Yes, but I can't get it to work correctly.  Never mounts automatically
[08:42] <shadox> bye
[08:42] <[x] > i've forgottt
[08:42] <Unimatrix9> good luck you all
[08:42] <WaqasToor> so i guess no body has this idea to how to configure that cdma phone through serial port to get internet going :(
[08:42] <Unimatrix9> :)
[08:42] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: i have 2 systems on my pc
[08:42] <Jack_Sparrow> CommonlyKnownAsK: /join #Ubuntu-offtopic
[08:42] <KanRiNiN> Samuli^: Always wants root priviledges
[08:42] <Jack_Sparrow> CommonlyKnownAsK: Write it down
[08:42] <fredl> earthian, it's also smart to type my nickname as the first word of any line you type when you're talking to me, it highlights the line
[08:42] <tritium> WaqasToor: it does not matter that it is a CDMA phone.  It should work like a serial modem.
[08:42] <earthian> yea
[08:42] <earthian> :p
[08:42] <Samuli^> KanRiNiN, I have a more general question, There's few packages apt-get wants to update now that I enabled the repo. Should I?
[08:43] <KanRiNiN> Samuli^: Which ones?
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: I dual boot as well, I just made a fat32 and shared programs and data go in there
[08:43] <shadox> can anyone help me out with this problem => http://shadox.ifastnet.com/ubuntu   ... there are two buttons missing (log off and reboot they -- lower left and right) i want!! them back :D
[08:43] <[x] > taaah
[08:43] <Samuli^> hal, hal-device-manager, gzip, pmount.. few other.
[08:43] <WaqasToor> ok tritium: but how to configure this in wvdial.conf ???
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: yes
[08:43] <Samuli^> I'm a bit worried about the hal.
[08:43] <der0b> shadox, is your login manager kdm?
[08:44] <fredl> shadox, are you using Xgl/Compiz?
[08:44] <shadox> der0b: i'm not sure
[08:44] <tritium> WaqasToor: like any other ppp connection
[08:44] <shadox> fredl: no, i'm not using that tool
[08:44] <gnomefreak> shadox: did you start gnome using the command startx
[08:44] <MystaMax> how do I remove the contents of a directory and all its subdirectories from the CLI?
[08:44] <der0b> shadox, do you have kde installed?
[08:45] <WaqasToor> naaaah :( thats the main thing i tried .. but nothing works ...
[08:45] <fredl> shadox, my shutdown button disappeared when I started using Compiz (3D composite manager)
[08:45] <shadox> der0b: no i haven't got kde installed
[08:45] <earthian> erm
[08:45] <der0b> ke, then I'm at a loss
[08:45] <earthian> wtf
[08:45] <WaqasToor> i mean modem=/dev/ttyS0 ... device not responding error occurs
[08:45] <fredl> earthian?
[08:45] <earthian> is there any size limit in the ubuntu pastebin?
[08:45] <fredl> earthian, not that I know of.
[08:45] <KanRiNiN> reptyle: shutdown -r doesn't work either
[08:45] <shadox> gnomefreak: no i start via the xserver (normal start up)
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> fredl: Some people have lost it by using a script to install compiz
[08:46] <fredl> Jack_Sparrow, when I chose the default GNOME session again the buttons are back again.
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> WaqasToor: do you know what type of modem that is
[08:46] <RetLaw> Hi, I would like to know if in Ubuntu DDNS-registration is per default active, and if so how I can disable it per command-line (Ubuntu-Server)
[08:46] <shadox> fredl: no i don't even got a 3d tool (except for 3d desktop)
[08:46] <r0ver> hi there. Do you know wich package i've to install to support mp3 in rhythmbox ?, i tried with a couple and it didn't work. I'm using dapper.
[08:46] <fredl> shadox, you have a 3D desktop??
[08:47] <WaqasToor> its a dowtel manufactured phone set ... and connected to my serial port 1 of laptop
[08:47] <fredl> shadox, big chance you have compiz then :)
[08:47] <shadox> fredl: yes
[08:47] <WaqasToor> its a dowtel manufactured phone set ... and connected to my serial port 1 of laptop:S
[08:47] <shadox> fredl: do you think that's the reason?
[08:47] <fredl> shadox, no. I know it is.
[08:47] <earthian> Errors
[08:47] <earthian>     * No text given and no image uploaded
[08:47] <nahamu> r0ver: you might want to google for "easyubuntu"
[08:47] <earthian> wtf???
[08:48] <earthian> bad pastebin
[08:48] <earthian> :(
[08:48] <r0ver> nahamu: i already did it... and it seems it didn't work neither
[08:48] <shadox> fredl: ok, i'm uninstalling it and do a quick boot
[08:48] <shadox> fredl: brb
[08:48] <fredl> shadox, no!
[08:48] <codecaine> ubuntu doesn't get no easier for linux lol
[08:48] <shadox> fredl: ? why not?
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys i have a newer version of compiz installed and wonder how to get the window borders on as i have no way of moving the windows or closing them minimise maximise and the like
[08:48] <fredl> shadox, before you login, click on options. Choose the GNOME session type and then log in
[08:48] <nahamu> r0ver: it gave me trouble when I tried to do too many things at once; you want to get it to update your repositories and install the mp3 stuff...
[08:49] <fredl> shadox, no need to uninstall the thing, duh :P
[08:49] <WaqasToor> so got any idea ???
[08:49] <shadox> fredl: ok i'll give it a try :D
[08:49] <shadox> fredl: thnx for helping :D
[08:49] <shadox> brb
[08:49] <RetLaw> Hi, I would like to know if in Ubuntu DDNS-registration is per default active, and if so how I can disable it per command-line (Ubuntu-Server)
[08:49] <Jack_Sparrow> WaqasToor: type wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf and it should give you the port your modem is on
[08:50] <Samuli^> what the heck, I installed them.
[08:50] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, I had the same problem with the latest Compiz...
 k
[08:50] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, I rebooted and it went away, oddly enough.
[08:50] <Justy> hello to all
[08:50] <Justy> i have done!
[08:50] <WaqasToor> Jack_Sparrow: its not a standard modem ... its a telephone set a wireless one conntected to serial port of my laptop
 no mine still the same from yesterday
[08:50] <Justy> my wpa works! thanks to all
[08:50] <Marlun> how do I search for a file in a specific folder?
[08:50] <WaqasToor> its not a modem
[08:51] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, odd. Did you get Compiz with apt-get?
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> WaqasToor: Not that free internet phone setup in the UK is it?
[08:51] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, you have an ATI card by any chance ?
yes
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[08:52] <WaqasToor> naaah i am in Asia ... so no way near to UK or US :)
[08:52] <shadox> fredl: nope it didn't work
[08:52] <shadox> fredl: the buttons are still missing :D  (reward of $10000) :d
[08:52] <WaqasToor> ok here is what i get ... Sending signal ATZ ..... then device not responding etc
[08:52] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, fglrx 8.28? Keep in mind we got a new kernel and if you have manually installed the fglrx kernel you need to rebuild the kernel moduyles yourself.
 i got it from this repo  "deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main"
[08:52] <Jaak_> does the client side need samba to acces windows shared folders or is it only required to share a folder?
[08:52] <WaqasToor> i guess the signal to my serial device is not sent and why i dont know
 err how is this done
[08:53] <der0b> Jaak_, I believe you only need samba to share out, you may need to install smbfs to mount shares though (I forget)
[08:54] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, try grep 8.28 /var/log/Xorg.0.log, tell me if it shows 8.28
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> WaqasToor: dmesg | grep ttyS
[08:54] <Jaak_> i don't have to mount but i suddenly can't find any network place
[08:54] <shadox> fredl:  i think ...
[08:54] <fredl> shadox, sorry to hear :) I can live without those buttons
[08:54] <Jaak_> is there a command to scan for shared folders?
[08:54] <RetLaw> please ? Hi, I would like to know if in Ubuntu DDNS-registration is per default active, and if so how I can disable it per command-line (Ubuntu-Server)
[08:55] <shadox> fredl: they are back :D ... yes me too (using terminal "sudo shutdown -h now" or -r to reboot)
[08:55] <WaqasToor> yup it works ... i guess i have some thing missing with the configuration settings ... i mean it uses phone number like #777 ... so i was just curious that some body else may know it
 nothing it just went to next line
[08:55] <WaqasToor> i dont get to find the actual configuration
[08:55] <WaqasToor> i tried using the stupid mode =1 but no use
[08:55] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, huh? do lsmod|grep fglrx
[08:55] <der0b> Jaak_, I'm not in front of my machine, but I think there's a "network servers" application under places..  you could check there
[08:55] <shadox> fredl: thnx a lot :D you are officially my hero :p
[08:56] <Chest> guys is it possible to tell a program to startup up in a certain workspace via an xsession script?
[08:56] <Chest> in gnome
[08:56] <fredl> shadow`, je mag me later betalen.
 same thing went to next line
[08:56] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, you're not running fglrx while you have an ATI card, hmmm. Well this doesn't explain your problem...
[08:56] <shadox> fredl: je spreekt nederlands lol wrom pv'de je niet? :d  ok I will :p my bitch will pay you in natura :p
[08:56] <c0nfidencal> hey
[08:56] <c0nfidencal> im trying to compile gnomerar-0.5.0
[08:56] <hydrozen> i just installed the ati drivers but when i try to start x, i get messages like (EE) cannot find a replacement memory range
[08:57] <c0nfidencal> i installed build-essential
[08:57] <c0nfidencal> but still
[08:57] <c0nfidencal> configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[08:57] <fredl> shadox, how old is your bitch? :)
[08:57] <hydrozen> fglrx(0) register ressources failed... etc
[08:57] <c0nfidencal> how do i fix this?
[08:57] <Jaak_> yes i know about that, but it doesn;t show any servers, althoug my other ubu system does sho
[08:57] <gnomefreak> c0nfidencal: sudo apt-get build-dep gnomerar
[08:57] <shadox> fredl: 18 ;) :d
[08:57] <fredl> shadox, liar :P
[08:57] <earthian_> back :o
[08:57] <shadox> fredl: noway , want a picture? :p
[08:57] <c0nfidencal> gnomefreak, E: Unable to find a source package for gnomerar
[08:57] <earthian_> stupid inet connection
[08:57] <gnomefreak> fredl and shadox you need to watch your language
[08:57] <earthian_> fredl, http://pastebin.ca/176529
[08:58] <fredl> gnomefreak, sorry.
in "System > Preferences >" I now have Compiz Settings Manager...from when i did the upgrade
[08:58] <gnomefreak> c0nfidencal: open the readme and the instaol files and find out what packages you need to build it
[08:58] <shadox> gnomefreak: sry we were just joking around
[08:58] <gnomefreak> install*
[08:58] <earthian_> you might wish help me a little big boys :)
[08:58] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, yeah I know, I have that too. I'm not sure if changing any setting there is going to help you though.
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[08:59] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, to me it seemed like the window manager was broken temporarily, didn't have window decorations. I honestly don't know what caused it.
[08:59] <earthian_> http://pastebin.ca/176529 <-- fglrxinfo output, xorg.conf file and xorg.0.log file. problem as i mentioned earlier is that my hardware is not used for gfx
[09:00] <RetLaw> Anyone ? I would like to know if in Ubuntu DDNS-registration is per default active, and if so how I can disable it per command-line (Ubuntu-Server)
 but yours came back
 i also have to choose xgl as a session when i login if that means anything to you...where as im in my gnome session now
[09:01] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, yup, but I don't know why. You can forget about the driver that I just let you check, I just remembered that this happened on my laptop and no ATI there.
[09:01] <sovieticool> can help me someone whit my vmware ?
[09:01] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, and when you chose a GNOME session everything is fine again?
[09:01] <jpiccolo> i am booted up with "nv" in my xorg, is there a way to run nvidia drivers and -27
[09:01] <s-ndh-c> hey guys
im getting an Nvidia card shortly will this be an improvement
[09:01] <s-ndh-c> is it possible to tell synaptic to ignore the deps of a package and install it anyways?
 perfect in Gnome
[09:02] <PMantis> Anyone have fix:  PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_foreground.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] 
[09:02] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, *shrug* I don't know, never had an NVIDIA card, but some people like it better.
[09:02] <s-ndh-c> i have all deps installed from source, so dpkg doesnt know about them
[09:02] <fredl> earthian, looking through your log, don't worry :P
[09:02] <fredl> earthian, you don't have 3D right?
[09:03] <sovieticool> !vmware
[09:03] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[09:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Would everyone in here advise a ubuntu or linux user for that matter to have Nvidia cards on there systmes
[09:03] <earthian_> \o/
[09:03] <boink> !xen
[09:03] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[09:03] <fredl> earthian, and did that recently break?
[09:03] <iapx8088> !motu
[09:03] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[09:03] <richard501> good dvd player prog that will reliably play dvds with menus?
[09:03] <fredl> I think there should be an #ubuntu-ati channel :P
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Not sure what you mean by that.  Which nvidia card do we recommend?
[09:04] <iapx8088> who''s lilo? what was his nick
[09:04] <fredl> lilo
 well what will kinda work right out of the box and be game ready and the like
[09:04] <wenzlicker> lilo died...i heard
[09:04] <richard501> I wanna watch dvd's!!!
xgl/compiz ready too
[09:04] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, try not to type the <> around the nickname.
[09:04] <iapx8088> did not know it
[09:04] <iapx8088> him
[09:04] <boink> he is now called grub?
[09:04] <jpiccolo> i am booted up with "nv" in my xorg, is there a way to run nvidia drivers and -27
[09:04] <Paddy_EIRE> fredl: why
[09:05] <Paddy_EIRE> fredl: been doing it since july
[09:05] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, without the <> around it the line gets highlighted in xchar
[09:05] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[09:05] <fredl> you using xchat?
[09:05] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, see this....
[09:05] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I cant force myself to suggest people use compiz... I prefer less eye candy more function
 and this
[09:05] <Sarra_> I'm looking for a downloadable, non-internet dependant application that can be used on my laptop, with the same function as maps.yahoo.com
[09:06] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[09:06] <fredl> see that one's highlighted and the other one isn't?
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jpiccolo: Did you try changing nv to nvidia?
[09:06] <codecaine> less eye candy?
[09:06] <Mportnoy> hello how can I fix this ?  GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
 they show up all the same
[09:06] <codecaine> I think xgl probably best thing out huh
[09:06] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, oh ok
[09:06] <eyequeue> codecaine, or the worst
 anyway i dont type ppls names i copy paste from the side
[09:06] <codecaine> it is kinda buggy
[09:06] <jpiccolo> Jack_Sparrow, thats what i had, till i upgraded to -27 and it broke x
[09:06] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, did you try tab-expansion? :)
[09:07] <eyequeue> codecaine, it seems to be the cause of countless disasters in here
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> whats that
[09:07] <PMantis> my pam.d/common-session contains: session        optional        pam_foreground.so
[09:07] <PMantis> ...but the file 'pam_foreground.so" does not exist. Why would this entry be there?
[09:07] <tritium> Paddy_EIRE: use tab-completion
[09:07] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, just type fre<tab>
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> jpiccolo: are you running 686 or 386?
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> fre<tab>
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> err?
[09:07] <fredl> ehr
 would be the TAB key
[09:07] <jpiccolo> Jack_Sparrow, 386
[09:07] <iapx8088> oh levin, may it's soul rest in peace,  I'm sorry
[09:07] <Paperface> howdy, are there any mac/ubuntu experts in here?
[09:08] <Paddy_EIRE> fredl: it doesnt do anything
[09:08] <typecast> Paperface: ask your question. maybe someone can help you
[09:08] <tritium> Paddy_EIRE: it auto-completes nicks
[09:08] <Paperface> well I've installed ubuntu
[09:08] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, it should complete the nickname for you :)
[09:08] <codecaine> I know my memory resource sucked bad when using it
[09:08] <Paperface> and it says it's installed yaboot
 it aint in mine
[09:08] <codecaine> I dont'  use it anymore just 3ddesktop
[09:08] <stevej> I have an old system (K6-2/400 128MB 8GB) that I'm trying to install dapper server on. The LAMP installation went through to completion, on reboot, I get a constant reboot. GRUB loads, I see the line for "savedefault", then boot, then it doesn't. Screen blanks, system resets. I've tried noapic noacpi aolapci vga=771 hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false in masse and in various combinations, any thoughts?
[09:09] <Paperface> but, it doesn't get passed the open firmware screen
[09:09] <tritium> Paddy_EIRE: are you familiar with tab-completion in bash?  It behaves the same way...
[09:09] <Paperface> s/passed/past/
[09:09] <RetLaw> Hi, I would like to know if in Ubuntu DDNS-registration is per default active, and if so how I can disable it per command-line (Ubuntu-Server)
[09:09] <Paperface> like it can't boot from thehard drive for some reason
no never used the tab key in a terminal
[09:09] <tritium> Paddy_EIRE: wow, you should learn to use it.  It is a powerful time-saver.
 only used in office or webpages
[09:09] <fredl> The wonders Ubuntu does, makes people no longer use terminal windows :P
[09:09] <barata> how to open a port (say 52174) in ubuntu?
[09:09] <Paperface> anyone any ideas?
[09:10] <Refect> Hi folks. mplayer amd 64 verson installing keeps complaining about dependencies. I tried apt-cache search but only comes up with kmplayer?
[09:10] <Mportnoy> hello how can I fix this ?  GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[09:10] <eyequeue> barata, install a listener on it
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> ooops
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> sry guys
[09:10] <Blob> I see that Python 2.5 has been released.  What's the typical lag between such a release and its availability on ubuntu?
[09:10] <fredl> Refect, what dependency complaint?
[09:10] <eyequeue> barata, as in, install apache2 to open port 80
 barata, install a listener on it --> what's the app name? listener?
[09:10] <WaqasToor_>  /msg nickserv link WaqasToor coolio
[09:11] <fredl> Blob, when you find out I'll know when VIM 7 will be in Ubuntu :)
[09:11] <eyequeue> barata, nothing defaults to 52174 that i know of
[09:11] <fredl> coolio password WaqasToor
[09:11] <Paperface> anyone? :(
[09:11] <der0b> WaqasToor, might want to do that in your status window
[09:11] <barata> eyequeue: I have no problem with port 80, but I need to open a port for torrent
[09:11] <eyequeue> barata, configure whatever you like to use that port
[09:11] <Dane_> hi all .. I tried to boot Ubuntu 6.06 LTS as a live cd on my recently brouht g3, but all it says is "can't allocate initial device-tree chunk" and I haven't found anything in the web that was helpful
[09:12] <WaqasToor_> hahahahahahah nice going ... hahaha ... man sorry i guess i am a dumb ass with mirc .. first experience you know
 barata, configure whatever you like to use that port --> what is the tool for configuring it?
[09:12] <typecast> Paperface: i think you should file a support-request on launchpad.net/write a mail to ubuntu-users list
[09:12] <shylock_> hi i am trying to get the kernel headers for my kernel but the latest i find in synaptic is 2.4.27-2 when uname says mine are 2.6.15-27-386
[09:12] <Paperface> typecast: really?
[09:12] <shylock_> how can i get newer ones
[09:12] <Paperface> could well be somethign I'm missing
[09:12] <eyequeue> barata, sudo vim /etc/apache2/configfile, or whatever
[09:13] <Refect> fredl: lots. I go to the ubuntu packges page and get the dapper amd 64 versions, but usually I get a problems, but clicking on other versons then dapper soemtimes mostly fixes it. nto sure why it complains seems to be the right version, maybe its old or something.
[09:13] <barata> thanks eyequeue
[09:13] <shylock_> ohh found em
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> tritium: fredl: great tip guys, looks preety handy in bash so far
[09:13] <shylock_> dont waste any time on me
[09:14] <fredl> Refect, type in a terminal window sudo apt-get install mplayer-amd64
[09:14] <fredl> Paddy_EIRE, *g*
[09:14] <iapx8088> anyone knows why If I open two mplayer session at the same time my pc will freeze
[09:14] <iapx8088> freeze and then *nothing*
[09:14] <eyequeue> barata, sure
[09:14] <iapx8088> I use XV
[09:14] <mirf> where is alsaconf?
[09:15] <typecast> Paperface: try ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[09:15] <Refect> fredl: thanks I shall give it ago, didn't find that packages before with apt-cache search, but you never know :)
[09:15] <tritium> mirf: not included, as it is buggy and no longer maintained
[09:15] <Dane_> anyone? .. :(
[09:15] <fredl> Somebody really ought to refine the IRC client to allow for multiple discussion tabs using public messages....
[09:15] <mirf> tritium, what replaced it?
[09:15] <gunnar_> !xbug
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <fredl> Refect, if you can't find it you need to update your sources.list
[09:15] <iapx8088> Dane_, recently bought means used?
[09:15] <typecast> Paperface: i think you have a better chance to finde someone who can help you there
[09:15] <iapx8088> Dane_, newest macs aren't g3
[09:16] <typecast> fredl: which irc-client?
[09:16] <Dane_> yes iapx8088, brought it today. it's an 333 MHz g3
[09:16] <tritium> mirf: nothing, other than better  hardware auto-detection
[09:16] <eyequeue> fredl, "the" irc client?  there so many out there, probably over 100
[09:16] <fredl> or is mplayer in the Ubuntu repository now?
[09:16] <iapx8088> mmmh
[09:16] <mirf> tritium, interesting
[09:16] <fredl> eyequeue, okay, "an" IRC client.
[09:16] <gnomefreak> fredl: its in multiverse repo
[09:16] <barata> thank you eyequeue, I've nano-ed /etc/apache2/port.config
[09:16] <eyequeue> barata, cool
[09:16] <tritium> mirf: yeah
[09:16] <fredl> Refect, have you enabled the multiverse lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:16] <iapx8088> Dane_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-187056.html read this?
[09:17] <barata> who control 'advance socket options'? how can I chmod it?
[09:17] <eyequeue> barata, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, to have it take effect of course
[09:17] <Refect> fredl: yes it cant' find it. I"m in australia, Nooo thought it might do it by it's self :)
[09:17] <fredl> eyequeue, the IRC client that implements that will take over the world.
[09:17] <barata> okey
[09:17] <Hoxzer> geeez
[09:17] <fredl> Refect, no, you need to tell apt where the repositories are.
[09:17] <Hoxzer> has somebody else notice problems with latest updates?
[09:17] <eyequeue> fredl, i doubt i will use it, it sounds gui
[09:18] <Dane_> iapx8088, I've read the threads (I guess thats the first result when you google the error message) but I found nothing that was useful ..
[09:18] <fredl> Refect, uncomment the multiverse lines, then sudo apt-get update/sudo apt-get install mplayer-amd64
[09:18] <boink> !sources_list
[09:18] <Hoxzer> AArg
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources_list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <boink> !apt-get
[09:18] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
 barata, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, to have it take effect of course --> I did & nmap, my port doesnt show, only port 80
[09:18] <Dane_> or at least nothing *I* saw that was useful - but maybe I'm wrong ..
[09:19] <Refect> fredl: I thought it did before when I installed it.  When do I find the address for the apt sources in australia?
[09:19] <fredl> Refect, just sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and read the comments in there.
[09:19] <Samuli^> sweet, I got ntfs-3g working like charm.
[09:19] <boink> isn't there a list of all the mirrors for ubuntu's apt-get?
[09:19] <barata> till later guys, need to reboot
[09:20] <iapx8088> Dane_,  givin the fact that it occurs at early stage, it may be a kernel issue rather than an ubuntu issue
[09:20] <eyequeue> barata, i thought nmap only defaults to low ports, you have to tell it to go higher than1024
[09:20] <mrcoyote> lol since i use compiz,xgl,cgwd and co... when i go to windows, i have the sensation of back to the past lol and when i checked vista, lol it's like the past technologies of microsoft are older than XGL and co... isn't it ?
[09:20] <ircleuser> hello.  can someone help me out with an odd problem that i'm having with ubuntu server?
[09:20] <fredl> earthian_, yes, you do not have 3D because you haven't loaded the fglrx modules I think
[09:20] <Dane_> iapx8088, that means for me what? sorry, I'm new to linux
[09:20] <der0b> ircleuser, ask and we'll do what we can
[09:20] <iapx8088> Dane_, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/34508 here they say it was solved into 2.6.16
[09:21] <Samuli^> mrcoyote, compiz certainly kicks vista's ass :)
[09:21] <Refect> fredl: this is what is in there first entry deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[09:21] <iapx8088> Dane_, ubuntu is a distro, but the heart of the operating system is the kernel, and that is not developed by ubuntu
[09:21] <mrcoyote> Samuli^, surely ^^
[09:21] <Samuli^> mrcoyote, anyways, linux looking better than windows isn't the problem. Lot's of stuff still isn't working :/
[09:21] <ircleuser> okay, i just installed ubuntu server onto a box.  apt-get install'd ssh.  i can ssh into the box, but i can't seem to update from sources.list while i'm ssh'd there
[09:21] <earthian__> fredl, where do i load them? :S
[09:21] <iapx8088> Dane_, so probably (and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/34508 here they say so) you should find a way to boot with a newer kernel
[09:21] <fredl> Refect, search for multiverse, uncomment the repository line that has multiverse in it
[09:22] <eyequeue> scarabatwork, sudo apt-get update
[09:22] <iapx8088> Dane_, I'm not a mac expert, but I believe the error occurs during installation right?
[09:22] <boink> depends on what's in the /etc/apt/sources.list too
[09:22] <earthian__> fredl, and what modules would that be?
[09:22] <typecast> scarabatwork: do you get an error message?
[09:22] <fredl> earthian_, apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:22] <earthian__> hmm
[09:22] <gnomefreak> Refect: the repos that end in universe please add a space after universe and add multiverse
[09:22] <scarabatwork> yes, that what i tried... it won't resolve any dns while i'm ssh'd box.  i can't use elinks to browse the web either
[09:22] <mrcoyote> Samuli^, yeah me for resolve this prob i've a vmware with windows... but it's not pratical but i dont have the choice
[09:22] <scarabatwork> no error message other than termp fail resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' ... etc
[09:22] <Refect> thanks Fredl and gomefreak, shall give it a spin. :)
[09:23] <fredl> Refect, np
[09:23] <eyequeue> scarabatwork, sounds like /etc/resolv.conf
[09:23] <earthian__> heh
[09:23] <Dane_> iapx8088, yeah it occurs rigth after the g3 tries to boot into ubuntu, like I said, I want to use it just as a live cd for now, no install
[09:23] <earthian__> thanks
[09:23] <earthian__> :
[09:23] <earthian__> restarting
[09:23] <mrcoyote> Samuli^, when vista coming out people must change our OS and DRM would have the fatality
[09:23] <Samuli^> scarabatwork, cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[09:23] <omnid> Just FYI someone screwed up that kernal update big time
[09:23] <iapx8088> Dane_, I fear you shall wait for a new ubuntu version and a new kernel.
[09:23] <mrcoyote> Samuli^, most people will migrate i think
[09:23] <Samuli^> mrcoyote, I'm hoping vista will be hideous :)
[09:23] <eyequeue> scarabatwork, sudo nano that and add some known-wrking resolvers, you're at work, use theirs :)
[09:23] <mrcoyote> i would like
[09:23] <fredl> why do people figure out they need to use fglrx but don't seem to know they need the restricte modules too.. hmm
[09:23] <laurens> hi
[09:24] <scarabatwork> Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[09:24] <mrcoyote> Samuli^, right :)
[09:24] <iapx8088> Dane_, or so they say
[09:24] <laurens> could anyone tell me what /etc/init.d/* is on ubuntu?
[09:24] <laurens> im looking for init scripts, more specifically the ssh one
[09:24] <mrcoyote> Vista signed the death of microsoft
[09:24] <boink> is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu the only server you can put in the sources.list for ubuntu stuff?
[09:24] <boink> aren't there any mirrors?
[09:24] <eyequeue> laurens, many too many files to define them all
[09:24] <Samuli^> mrcoyote, imagine how many people would migrate to linux if it's as demanding on the comp as it looks like to be.
[09:24] <Dane_> iapx8088, uhm, thanks, thats not really what I wanted to hear, but I guess I have to excerise patience
[09:24] <omnid> mrcoyote, no it didn't?
[09:24] <fredl> I wonder if it's difficult to make xchat open a new tab when somebody says something with my nickname as the first thing they type
[09:25] <fredl> shouldn't be so hard.
[09:25] <iapx8088> Dane_,  I don't like to say you to switch from ubuntu,  but I would try with a newer kernek
[09:25] <laurens> eyequeue: wheres the sshd init script
[09:25] <mrcoyote> omnid, DRM and CHECK of Serial number
[09:25] <eyequeue> laurens, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:25] <Samuli^> mrcoyote, on the other hand.. they might just upgrade their computers :P
[09:25] <nexact> hey all, i've modified /etc/init.d/network/interfaces how can I apply this modification to current configuration without rebooting the box?
[09:25] <omnid> mrcoyote, what do you mean?
[09:25] <mrcoyote> omnid, impossible to hack
[09:25] <boink> isn't there a /etc/init.d/network ?
[09:25] <fredl> nexact, depends. Which interface did you change?
[09:25] <eyequeue> nexact, wrong path, but /etc/network/interfaces is sourced as needed, no reboot
[09:26] <omnid> So? A lot of people legally purchase windows you know.
[09:26] <boink> in debian that would be /etc/init.d/network restart
[09:26] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:26] <gershon> ifdown eth#, ifup eth# ?
[09:26] <nexact> eyequeue, your right.
[09:26] <fredl> yeah what gershon says.
[09:26] <nexact> fredl, ive changed eth0 and eth1.
[09:26] <omnid> Most people buy it and don't think more than that after doing an upgrade or getting some 'technician' to install it
[09:26] <Dane_> iapx8088, yea guess thats what I gotta do .. I just hoped it would work with ubuntu, cuz I've got it here on Cd .. anyway. thanks for your help!
[09:26] <xukun_> is there a wpa client for ubuntu?
[09:26] <mrcoyote> Samuli^, yes they will have the choice.... having an OS who have some bugs and delested by microsoft or change their computer or migrate to linux :D
[09:27] <gershon> um... any1 know where to find MoHo these days?
[09:27] <fredl> nexact, in that case sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0; sudo ifdown eth1; sudo ifup eth1
[09:27] <eyequeue> nexact, sudo ifdown them (with the old values) and the sudo ifup them with the new
[09:27] <iapx8088> Dane_, bye
[09:27] <boink> aaah, ifdown eth0 .. that was it
[09:27] <eyequeue> nexact, change the file back for the ifdown
[09:27] <boink> ifup eth0 up
[09:27] <Dane_> bye all
[09:27] <nexact> thanks, didnt know about ifup/ifdown
[09:27] <boink> man ifdown
[09:27] <iapx8088> Dane_, I suggest to try with a distro with a newer kernel, if it works, just wait for the next ubuntu verison
[09:27] <nexact> boink, i know about man.
[09:27] <boink> that would be man man :P
[09:27] <mrcoyote> probably the third will be the good choice and less expansive :p for all
[09:27] <ubuntu> asdf
[09:27] <nexact> hehe :)
[09:28] <fatbrain> Hellow, what ftpd should I use?
[09:28] <boink> pureftpd is a nice one
[09:28] <nexact> in my opinion, vsftpd.
[09:28] <boink> isn't vsftpd the "default" with ubuntu?
[09:28] <fatbrain> nexact: You tried both?
[09:28] <eyequeue> ftp is a broken protocol, cleartext passwords, multiple ports, i'd use scp
[09:28] <boink> of course
[09:28] <nexact> nah, i didnt
[09:28] <boink> but sometimes .. ftpd is for the real world :/
[09:29] <fredl> ftpd evil
[09:29] <boink> with pureftpd, you can make virtual users
[09:29] <fredl> EEEEVIL!
[09:29] <mirf> hahah, coming from 'arch' to 'xubuntu' II'm finding it a bit weird how little there is to setup
[09:29] <eyequeue> boink, there is no defalt, ftp is, um, undesirable
[09:29] <fatbrain> you can use virtual users on vsftpd
[09:29] <fatbrain> too
[09:29] <boink> that means, the users don't have accounts on the box. handy feature
[09:29] <boink> ok
[09:29] <fatbrain> But I would like to use scp
[09:29] <boink> that's better
[09:29] <fatbrain> any good scpd?
[09:29] <mirf> sshd
[09:29] <boink> is there sometype of graphical scp interface?
[09:29] <mirf> opensshd even
[09:29] <fredl> boink, the 'real world' should be told again and again and again that ftp is BAD and you shouldn't install it for anyone.
[09:29] <eyequeue> fatbrain, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:30] <boink> like winscp for linux?
[09:30] <Jellegant> hey, room, I got compiz working for about 10 seconds after logging in, but then my splash screen dissappeared.  Anybody wanna help me get it back?
[09:30] <cliffd> anyone know the switch for glxgears that makes it print the fps to console?
[09:30] <fatbrain> eyequeue: ah, already installed it
[09:30] <boink> man scp
[09:30] <fatbrain> can I configure that with virtual users?
[09:30] <eyequeue> Jellegant, wrong channel, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[09:30] <Teknoenie> hi all
[09:30] <omnid> How do I uninstall that kernal update
[09:30] <Jellegant> gotcha.
[09:30] <omnid> I bet I can't right
[09:30] <omnid> I just can't go back
[09:30] <boink> or compile your own kernel
[09:30] <Teknoenie> i'm having problems with apache php and file uploads
[09:30] <Teknoenie> i can't seem to get more than 2MB uploads
[09:31] <eyequeue> omnid, dpkg --purge works with any deb, including kernel
[09:31] <boink> can you compile your own kernel the debian way on ubuntu too?
[09:31] <fredl> scp GUI...
[09:31] <boink> making a .deb?
[09:31] <eyequeue> boink, yes make-kpkg
[09:31] <nubbe> regarding the security update; should I do 2 updates or 1 dist-upgrade? dist-upgrade wants to upgrade to -26 and install new package -27
[09:31] <Teknoenie> even when i up the max_file_size limits
[09:31] <cliffd> will this card work with the binary ATI drivers? ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B64 [FireGL V3100 (PCIE)]   Thanks.
[09:31] <eyequeue> !info kernel-package
[09:31] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[09:31] <omnid> eyequeue, but it was an automatic update
[09:31] <boink> make-kpkg, ok
[09:31] <nubbe> 2 upgrade
[09:31] <boink> that's in ubuntu too
[09:31] <unplugd> somebody know in which file the ports are listed in ubuntu?
[09:31] <eyequeue> omnid, again, dpkg --purge works with any deb, including kernel
[09:31] <boink> ports?
[09:31] <omnid> Oh allright, what was the name of the last update?
[09:32] <Teknoenie> more /etc/services for service -> port correlation
[09:32] <omnid> So I know what to purge
[09:32] <Teknoenie> netstat -a shows what ports are connected or listening
[09:32] <eyequeue> omnid, i wasn't watching yhour box upgrade, heh, i'm not using your kernel here
[09:32] <hydrozen> Anybody have any idea what to do with these errors? I have a mobility radeon X1600 and i tried installing the ati drivers but when i try to use them X wont start, complaining about memory stuff (requesting insufficient memory range, fglrx(0) register ressources failed.... and so on..) I cant find anything about that on the web...
[09:32] <jorgg> When I watch moveis, they are to bright! I use totem video player. How can i fix this?
[09:33] <eyequeue> omnid, sudo update-grub will list it though
[09:33] <fredl> hydrozen, what version of fglrx are  you using?
[09:33] <omnid> allright
[09:33] <omnid> hold onnn
[09:33] <fredl> hydrozen, or are you not using the ATI proprietary drivers?
[09:33] <omnid> Gotta run across the house to even use it
[09:34] <eyequeue> omnid, it probably has a 27 in it
[09:34] <jpiccolo> anyone know of a better linux GPU benchmark?
[09:34] <raf> i need help
[09:34] <raf> anyone here
[09:34] <boink> many are here
[09:34] <fredl> raf, don't we all
[09:34] <boink> state your problem
[09:34] <eyequeue> raf, no
[09:34] <raf> ok
[09:34] <magnet> !ask
[09:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:34] <eyequeue> !ask
[09:34] <raf> i have this disk bad sector issue
[09:34] <boink> don't ask, just state the problem
[09:34] <hydrozen> fredl: i was trying the proprietery one
[09:34] <boink> don't ask to ask ..
[09:34] <raf> i was forced to do a manual FSCk
[09:34] <jpiccolo> woot nivida drivers 2.6.15-27-386
[09:34] <raf> it fixed some problems...
[09:34] <hydrozen> fredl: all i want is at least to get 1280x800 resolution
[09:34] <raf> what else can i do
[09:34] <raf> for bad sectors
[09:34] <raf> other then FSCK
[09:34] <Splintah> yea the new nvidia drivers are the r0x0r
[09:34] <fredl> hydrozen, have  you installed the restricted modules too?
[09:35] <eyequeue> badblocks (8)        - search a device for bad blocks
[09:35] <raf> is that a command eyequeue?
[09:35] <raf> ?
[09:35] <hydrozen> fred1: well i followed the 2nd method at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:35] <boink> can you install reiser on ubuntu too if you want? is that an option?
[09:35] <eyequeue> raf, yes, man 8 badblocks
[09:35] <cliffd> boink: yeah, I just did that
[09:35] <jpiccolo> Splintah: do you know of a good benchmarking program?
[09:35] <fredl> hydrozen, so the kernel module compile too?
[09:36] <raf> can this be fixed without new JD?
[09:36] <eyequeue> mkfs.reiserfs (8)    - The create tool for the Linux ReiserFS filesystem.
[09:36] <raf> HD?
[09:36] <Splintah> nah, I just use my eyes. quake 4 seems a little smoother now though
[09:36] <fredl> hydrozen, so the error message you have are from your syslog, correct?
[09:36] <boink> just wondering if it's an option in the install. in debian, it's an option
[09:36] <eyequeue> boink, ^
[09:36] <fredl> hydrozen, do lsmod|grep fglrx and see if it gives any output
[09:36] <fatbrain> clear
[09:36] <fatbrain> heh
[09:37] <eyequeue> /clear
[09:37] <magnet> boink: yep you can format to reiserfs or reiser4 when you install ubuntu
[09:37] <der0b> boink, it is an option, you might need the alternate installer though
[09:37] <boink> wow .. reiser4? heh ..
[09:37] <hydrozen> fredl: okay wait i'll boot back into ubuntu... i was tired of the 1024x768 resolution
[09:37] <raf> is FSCK capable of fixing bad blocks? thats what i was forced to do?
[09:37] <boink> alternate installer? hmm, ok
[09:37] <eyequeue> raf, man 8 badblocks
[09:37] <fredl> hydrozen, Hrmm...
[09:38] <der0b> boink, there's 2 the live cd installer and the alternate installer
[09:38] <raf> im there now eye
[09:38] <raf> im not sure how to apply it
[09:38] <raf> im sorry
[09:38] <boink> hmm, and if you have just the one CD with the installer/live, would that have it?
[09:38] <eyequeue> raf, sudo badblocks whateverittellsyouinthemanpage
[09:38] <barata> still cannot open a port ...:(
[09:39] <eyequeue> barata, i thought nmap only defaults to low ports, you have to tell it to go higher than1024
[09:39] <magnet> eyequeue: that will just check for badblocks, not do anything about them :)
[09:39] <s-ndh-c> is it possible to tell apt to leave a broken package alone and not try to remove it?
[09:39] <der0b> boink, dunno only did the live cd install once and I let the cd take over the whole machine.  there aren't a lot of options for installing from the live cd.  the alt installer is text/menu based and has all the options you need
[09:39] <fredl> eyequeue, theres this thing called 'functional illiteracy' :P~
[09:39] <s-ndh-c> problem is i have installed all the deps of this package from source, so apt doesnt know they are installed
[09:39] <barata> okey eyequeue, what is nmap switch for that?
[09:40] <s-ndh-c> and i want to keep this "broken" package installed
[09:40] <eyequeue> barata, man nmap
[09:40] <s-ndh-c> any ideas?
[09:40] <PiedotTaste> Hey guys
[09:40] <magnet> boink: reiserfs and reiser4 are available on the live cd install
[09:40] <fredl> s-ndh-c, if you install debs, apt knows about them
[09:40] <cf12345> raf: e2fsck has option -c. man e2fsck
[09:40] <PiedotTaste> Anyone here use AIGLX?
[09:40] <iapx8088> s-ndh-c,  you shouldn't mess with source and debs
[09:40] <PiedotTaste> or Xserver?
[09:40] <earthian> back
[09:40] <der0b> thanks for clearing that up magnet
[09:40] <earthian> fredl, guess it did not worked :?
[09:40] <s-ndh-c> iapx8088:  but the mono packages in the repo are too old
[09:40] <PiedotTaste> Cos... ever since i got them both - if i click the off button the Xserver freezes.
[09:40] <iapx8088> s-ndh-c, if you go source, just source (and I advise against that)
[09:40] <barata> okey, I'm doing it
[09:40] <fredl> earthian, Hmm, you have the fglrx kernel module loaded now?
[09:41] <earthian> i think so
[09:41] <fredl> earthian, lsmod|grep fglrx
[09:41] <earthian> how do i know?
[09:41] <s-ndh-c> the package in question is libdbus-1-cil which wants mono stuff installed but i have mono installed from their svn server
[09:41] <iapx8088> s-ndh-c, I understand
[09:41] <fatbrain> I thought I was in cli
[09:41] <fatbrain> <- nublet
[09:41] <s-ndh-c> is there any way?
[09:42] <earthian> fredl, no nothing returned
[09:42] <iapx8088> s-ndh-c, elaborate, did not understand
[09:42] <fredl> s-ndh-c, Hmm...
[09:42] <fredl> s-ndh-c, tough. Maybe you can install the svn mono in /usr/local, and install Ubuntu's mono from a package?
[09:42] <Hoxzer> :)
[09:43] <fredl> earthian, but you did the apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and that succeeded?
[09:43] <cf12345> how do i monitor a hp proliant server (health, memory, array)
[09:43] <earthian> yea
[09:43] <hydrozen> fred1: lsmod | grep fglrx doesnt return anything
[09:43] <Hoxzer> if I have problems starting gnome window manager is there some place where I can take a look to log files?
[09:43] <earthian> ti however installed older file
[09:43] <fredl> earthian, do modprobe fglrx
[09:43] <earthian> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:44] <smax> hi guys
[09:44] <earthian> hm
[09:44] <fredl> earthian, use sudo
[09:44] <fredl> earthian, sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:44] <earthian> i made upgrade to 2.6.15-27
[09:44] <earthian> i am logged as root
[09:44] <boink> !releases
[09:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:44] <smax> how can i locate the exact file in /dev  that coresponds to the physcial device im looking for?   im working with the serial port with mincom
[09:44] <fredl> earthian, what does uname -r tell you?
[09:45] <earthian> 2.6.15-26
[09:45] <eyequeue> !root > earthian
[09:45] <earthian> not -27
[09:45] <fredl> earthian, then you didn't upgrade to 2.6.15-27 :)
[09:45] <earthian> but apt-get upgrade does nothing
[09:45] <earthian> it did sometime ago
[09:45] <earthian> :S
[09:45] <magnet> run update before :)
[09:45] <earthian> i am lost
[09:45] <kitche> smax: it will probably be an sd* of the device is hooked up to the serial port
[09:45] <Splintah> you have to apt-get update
[09:45] <Splintah> first
[09:46] <smax> kitche:  is it not tty ?
[09:46] <smax> or ttS ?
[09:46] <fredl> earthian, do: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:47] <earthian> done
[09:47] <earthian> The following packages will be upgraded:
[09:47] <earthian>   gzip
[09:47] <earthian> LOL
[09:47] <laurens> does ubuntu have build-essentials
[09:47] <kitche> smax: ah yea it would probably be ttyS tty is the physical terminals when you hook it up to a monitor
[09:47] <kitche> laurens: if you install it
[09:47] <laurens> ie a package that pulls in gcc, glibc-dev, etc
[09:47] <smax> yea but how do i find the exact one?
[09:47] <boink> is ubuntu debian testing or unstable?
[09:48] <cf12345> laurens: yes. package called build-essentials
[09:48] <kitche> smax: probably be ttys1
[09:48] <Marlun> how do I search for a file in a specific folder?
[09:48] <fredl> earthian, Hmmm. something stinks there... can you update grub? think it's update-grub or grub-update or something if I remember correctly
[09:48] <earthian> fredl, tbh i do not think that now upgraded gzip is anything to do with my fglx
[09:48] <reptyle> !build-essential
[09:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:48] <hydrozen> fred1: any ideas what i can do to try to fix my resolution?
[09:48] <boink> !grub
[09:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> smax: To find the modem go to a terminal and type:         dmesg | grep ttyS
[09:49] <earthian> fredl,
[09:49] <earthian> root@fostral:/# ls /boot/
[09:49] <earthian> System.map-2.6.15-26-k7  abi-2.6.15-26-k7  config-2.6.15-26-k7  grub  initrd.img-2.6.15-26-k7  lost+found  vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7
[09:49] <fredl> hydrozen, I'm fredl, not fred1.
[09:49] <fatbrain> can I lock a ssh user in its home-directory?
[09:49] <smax> yes i just done so,  and i found it
[09:49] <earthian> nothing to update
[09:49] <smax> thanx fellaz
[09:49] <kitche> Marlun: you can use a file manager or you can ls in the directory like this ls|grep <filename>
[09:49] <Marlun> kitche: what if I want it to search the subfolders too?
[09:49] <earthian> no 27 kernels there
[09:49] <fredl> hydrozen, might help if you type it right then I can see better when you're talking to me coz of highlighting :)
[09:49] <hydrozen> fredl:  heh, sorry, that's cuz of my shitty resolution :)
[09:49] <earthian> :S
[09:50] <kitche> fatbrain: ssh-chroot should do that for you I don't know much about it myself
[09:50] <mirf> has anyone noticed gaim shuts down with msn?
[09:50] <fredl> hydrozen, use tab-completion :) you using xchat?
[09:50] <administrator_> Ok gonna need some help with this dam 915resolution nonsense its acting really funny so can someone assit me
[09:50] <kitche> Marlun: well you can use ls -l then instead of ls
[09:50] <eugman> Is there any danger in uninstalling -dev packages?
[09:50] <fredl> earthian, Hrmmm....
[09:50] <pedrocr> does edgy have a more recent madwifi-ng than current dapper?
[09:50] <hydrozen> fredl: yeah but there are a lot of freds in here
[09:50] <fredl> hydrozen, so is the fglrx module loaded? (lsmod|grep fglrx)
[09:50] <earthian> fredl, yesterday i accidentally lost my /boot partintion because of mistake with mkswap
[09:51] <fredl> hydrozen, oops, hang on you had that, right?
[09:51] <earthian> however now i rebuild it
[09:51] <earthian> maybe i did smth wrong? :S
[09:51] <kitche> eugman: those are safe to remove if you wish
[09:51] <smax> kick ass
[09:51] <fredl> earthian, well losing /boot is usually not good.
[09:51] <hydrozen> fredl: yeah it doesnt return anything... but i changed the xorg to use vesa instead so i could go back into x
[09:51] <fredl> earthian, actually it's REAL BAD :P
[09:51] <Marlun> kitche doesn't ls -l just show the ls files in a list?
[09:51] <earthian> ouch
[09:51] <administrator_> big Xorg.conf problem is anyone can assist
[09:51] <earthian> but now i can boot
[09:52] <earthian> and all stuff
[09:52] <fredl> hydrozen, if you do sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:52] <iapx8088> administrator_, what?
[09:52] <fredl> hydrozen, does lsmod|grep fglrx then show anything?
[09:52] <earthian> except that my video not working as espected
[09:52] <omnid> Who is in charge of distributing the updates seriously
[09:52] <adolson> can anyone tell me how I can make it so I can open a terminal, su someotherusername, then launch a gui app like evolution? I am getting "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server - no protocol specified" errors. I tried xhost +localhost but that didn't help either.. gksu doesn't work either, it says the same error.. I am using Edgy, and the Run as different user.. option in the menu doesn't work either.
[09:52] <Rich43> where do i get "Ubuntu Server Edition"
[09:52] <Rich43> ?
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> administrator_: I assume you have seen this   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[09:52] <boink> !ubuntu
[09:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:52] <administrator_> yes jack
[09:52] <Teknoenie> Rich43: alternative cd download
[09:53] <Rich43> tnx
[09:53] <pedrocr> is edgy stable enough for someone that's used debian for a long time and ubuntu ever since it came out?
[09:53] <kitche> Marlun: it might well i think it
[09:53] <kitche> Marlun: ls -s probably is what you want I tend to do -l also
[09:53] <fredl> earthian, do dpkg -l|grep linux-image, see if -27 is installed
[09:53] <pedrocr> meaning: not completely broken and ready for user testing
[09:53] <administrator_> iapx8088, jack_sparrow: well i  am running dapper... and i just recently installed the i915driver so i can get my resolution settings yada yada yada... and so i got everything down correctly my xorg is correct my dam /etc/init.d/915resolution is correct everything seems flawless to me... but yet my resolution stays the same at 1024x768
[09:53] <finalbeta> pedrocr, yes, but I can't recommend an upgrade from dapper to edgy.
[09:53] <hydrozen> fredl: now it returns two lines.... fglrx     399916  0       and       agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,ati_agp
[09:53] <pedrocr> finalbeta, why's that?
[09:54] <boink> is there something like packages.debian.org for ubuntu?
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> administrator_: Post your xorg to the !pastebin
[09:54] <adolson> packages.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <cf12345> has anyone proliant servers?
[09:54] <boink> ok
[09:54] <iapx8088> administrator_, dont' know
[09:54] <finalbeta> You need to really know what you are doing, because the upgrade will have to be kickstarted a couple of times.
[09:54] <fredl> hydrozen, cool, so the kernel module does load. When you do dmesg, do the last lines contain error messages again?
[09:54] <earthian> fredl, it is :o
[09:54] <earthian> root@fostral:/# dpkg -l|grep linux-image
[09:54] <earthian> ii  linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7              2.6.15-26.47                            Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on AMD
[09:54] <earthian> ii  linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7              2.6.15-27.48                            Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on AMD
[09:54] <earthian> ii  linux-image-k7                        2.6.15.25                               Linux kernel image on AMD K7.
[09:54] <jpjacobs> !paste>earthian
[09:54] <adolson> pedrocr: I am using Edgy, and my evolution is broken and so is my openoffice.org.. I'm sure an update will fix them soon enough though. not much different than running sid, really.. the point is to test it and report bugs
[09:54] <earthian> ups /o\
[09:54] <hydrozen> fredl: i just type dmesg?
[09:54] <earthian> it was only 3 lines
[09:54] <earthian> :/
[09:54] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i recode .amr files to mp3 or wmv?
[09:55] <fredl> hydrozen, yeah
[09:55] <boink> when will Edgy be released? next year?
[09:55] <pedrocr> adolson, don't use any of those, thanks
[09:55] <fredl> earthian, could you sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7; apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7?
[09:55] <fredl> earthian, it'll remove everything of the -27 kernel and reinstall it.
[09:55] <pedrocr> finalbeta, why wouldn't I dist-upgrade from dapper?
[09:55] <administrator_> jack_sparrow: http://www.pastebin.ca/176595
[09:56] <adolson> Edgy is supposed to be out at the end of October
[09:56] <fredl> earthian, and additionally it'll update grub for you, might help but not sure.
[09:56] <hydrozen> fredl: the output is pretty long but i dont see any error messages in the last few lines... well i dont think so
[09:56] <bl4cktone> Hey guys I upgraded from hedgehog to breezy and my xchat program was removed I guess so I reinstalled it but this version seems completely diffrent
[09:56] <finalbeta> pedrocr, been using xgl? Because then it will surly fail, you need to manually remove / install packages
[09:56] <fredl> hydrozen, cool. So change xorg.conf to use fglrx again and restart X, see if that works.
[09:56] <finalbeta> Same thing with several other custom thingies
[09:56] <pedrocr> finalbeta, no xgl and I'm fine with using dpkg/apt
[09:56] <fredl> hydrozen, do not reboot your system at this point ok?
[09:57] <pedrocr> finalbeta, even on the console if X breaks
[09:57] <finalbeta> If you know what the install errors mean and you can fix em, then go ahaid
[09:57] <fredl> hydrozen, you can stop X with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and restart it again from the commandline with /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:57] <finalbeta> the upgrade took me 3 houres
[09:58] <finalbeta> But I had xgl, so needed to remove everything from the xserver up :/
[09:58] <pedrocr> finalbeta, I'm going to try
[09:58] <fredl> I STILL think there should be an #ubuntu-ati channel :P
[09:58] <pedrocr> finalbeta, any idea if the madwifi-ng is newer in edgy?
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> fredl:  so do we...
[09:58] <fredl> I mean there's more questions about @#)$ ATI than Xgl here :)
[09:59] <Teknoenie> ATI linux drivers suck, that's why
[09:59] <Teknoenie> :(
[09:59] <fredl> Teknoenie, no they don't.
[09:59] <h0ax> heyy guys, is ubuntu good for n00bs ?
[09:59] <adolson> yes
[09:59] <kitche> fredl: that's because there is a #ubuntu-xgl channel
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> administrator_: It identifies the 915 but has the 810 driver...
[09:59] <fredl> h0ax, no, but asking that on #ubuntu is a hoax :)
[09:59] <earthian> fredl, http://pastebin.ca/176601
[09:59] <finalbeta> pedrocr, you can search for packages/versions here and see what versions is in what : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/
[09:59] <earthian> nothing good :(
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !i915
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <kitche> !915resolution
[10:00] <pedrocr> finalbeta, it's not a package it's inside the restricted-modules
[10:00] <jpjacobs> h0ax, sure it is :p if that noob wwants to learn some new tricks
[10:00] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)
[10:00] <sureshot> hey jack is there anyway to ask you some questions off topic
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !915resolution
[10:00] <fredl> well earthian, remove/reinstall the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-k7 too then :)
[10:00] <h0ax> :P
[10:00] <h0ax> ive got gentoo and its a pain in the arse
[10:00] <finalbeta> pedrocr, same thing, search for it.
[10:00] <administrator_> jack_sparrow: yeah because tahts the driver tyhat it uses
[10:00] <Teknoenie> fredl: compared to the nVidia ones they do
[10:00] <boink> do you need to install the libdvdcss and w32codecs yourself?
[10:00] <pedrocr> finalbeta, ok, thanks
[10:01] <administrator_> jack_sparrow: if u went to the website u gave me it states the exact thing
[10:01] <bruenig> boink, yes
[10:01] <boink> ok
[10:01] <administrator_> jack_sparrow: thats what it uses for some odd reason
[10:01] <fredl> Teknoenie, I don't care about comparing. Mine works, what's to compare?
[10:01] <bruenig> boink,  you can find repositories with those in them but they aren't official
[10:01] <bmcfarli> hey guys how do you uninstall? easyubuntu is the devil
[10:01] <fredl> if something works it can't be bad :)
[10:01] <eyequeue> when is /etc/timezone sourced in dapper?
[10:01] <bruenig> bmcfarli, what are you trying to uninstall
[10:01] <fredl> gawd I need to go to bed.
[10:02] <bmcfarli> easyubuntu....it is being crazy
[10:02] <boink> is there something like a www.apt-get.org ?
[10:02] <fredl> earthian, I'm bailing out
[10:02] <earthian> :o
[10:02] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, weren't you warned about that?
[10:02] <boink> when looking for backports, that is
[10:02] <fredl> earthian, sorry dude :)
[10:02] <bruenig> bmcfarli, easyubuntu or some of the packages easy ubuntu installs?
[10:02] <earthian> np
[10:02] <eyequeue> boink, there is a backports repo
[10:02] <bl4cktone> Hey guys, I got google video working but I've got no sound.  everything else on my system is fine
[10:02] <earthian> will try to fix that myself
[10:02] <eyequeue> !repos
[10:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:02] <jenny_b> hi guys...i'm trying to uninstall something with synaptic, but when i hit 'apply', it says 'Could not apply changes!  Fix broken packages first!'.....how do i do this?
[10:02] <saiko> anyone here use devil's pie ?
[10:02] <bmcfarli> easyubuntu...i didnt even install any packages
[10:02] <earthian> i belieave i am on the right road :)
[10:03] <bruenig> bmcfarli, just delete the directory
[10:03] <bmcfarli> ok
[10:03] <h0ax> is ubuntu only 1 disk ?
[10:03] <bruenig> h0ax, yes
[10:03] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, you can't install easyubuntu as you have not installed it at any point.
[10:03] <h0ax> easy installation ?
[10:03] <nivanson_> yes
[10:03] <SatanGolga> yes
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> administrator_: The info in your xorg does not match up with the info on this link...   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[10:03] <h0ax> ah ha there is a god :P
[10:03] <Samuli^> bmcfarli, just delete the files if they offend you :)
[10:03] <h0ax> does anyone have the site ?
[10:03] <bruenig> h0ax, pretty easy, the graphical install has been shown to be a bit buggy at times but I have done it three of four different times without problem
[10:03] <bruenig> ubuntu.com
[10:04] <nivanson_> h0ax, you should be able to find screenshots on the installer on osdir.com...
[10:04] <h0ax> thanks guys
[10:04] <omnid> Where is that one file pertaining to the restricted modules
[10:04] <adam> nyone here know binary? get the bot to send me something
[10:04] <sureshot> jack_Sparrow please join the channel sureshot i need to ask a few questions off topic if i may and if you  would
[10:04] <bruenig> adam, wikipedia is pretty good for that sort of thing
[10:05] <administrator_> jack_sparrow: the only thing that doesnt is the dact i took out that option to force bios because it was doing nothing what so ever
[10:05] <orospakr> hey, if I have an absolutely minimal install of Debian stable, can I upgrade it to Dapper 6.06 LTS without too much breakage?
[10:05] <hydrozen> fredl: X still does not want to start... outputting stuff about memory and stuff
[10:05] <adam> i already know the #'s and letters, now i just wanna DO SOMETHING with it
[10:05] <Gevaudan82> Hey guys...I was wondering if anyone knew if there is a flag to automatically accept a site's GPG key when connecting using ssh from the command line...I searched man but -f for force to background and -q for quiet is about as far as i got and neither do what I need
[10:05] <bruenig> adam, like what?
[10:05] <adam> anything, really
[10:06] <adam> i just dont want to know that i wasted my time
[10:06] <h0ax> 1mb connection sucks :(
[10:06] <adam> learning binary
[10:06] <bruenig> not much time to learn binary
[10:06] <nickspoon> adam: base 2 isn't difficult.
[10:06] <nickspoon> 00 01 10 11 :)
[10:06] <adam> even still
[10:06] <zaggynl> rawr, finally I understand why I couldn't get direct rendering and opengl working
[10:06] <zaggynl> XGL + compiz does NOT support direct rending / opengl
[10:07] <adam> what can you DO with it?
[10:07] <nickspoon> zaggynl: indeed.
[10:07] <Ackeubu_> hey im running gnome with fluxbox as windowmanager.. i want right click to bring up fluxbox applications menu. but even if i kill nautilus it keeps popping up.. can i run gnome without nautilus?
[10:07] <zaggynl> I took the long way xD
[10:07] <sovieticool> how i disable screen server from terminal ?
[10:07] <bl4cktone> anyone know where I find the xpti.dat file?  I've just installed macromedia flash and it said I need to remove it.
[10:07] <hydrozen> fredl: would it help for you to have the X output?
[10:07] <nickspoon> zaggynl:  you have to use a new screen.
[10:07] <h0ax> wats the newes ubuntu 6.06 ?
[10:07] <g333k_work> In what runlevel must says  in my inittab to load gdm at boot ?
[10:07] <zaggynl> howto?
[10:07] <zaggynl> nickspoon,
[10:07] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, man 5 ssh_config
[10:07] <nickspoon> hm?
[10:07] <kitche> g333k_work: 5
[10:07] <bl4cktone> yeah 6.06 but the beta of edgy is out
[10:08] <sovieticool> how i disable screen server from terminal ?
[10:08] <zaggynl> nickspoon, how to run an extra screen without xgl/compiz?
[10:08] <bruenig> adam, maybe you can write some machine code, I don't know why you would want to
[10:08] <i4get2> edgy still is more like alpha then beta...be careful
[10:08] <g333k_work> kitche, it says runlevel 5, but gdm doesnt load at boot, what could be the problem?
[10:08] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82,      StrictHostKeyChecking
[10:08] <adam> dont they come in a lot of .tar.gz packages?
[10:08] <kitche> g333k_work: which flavor of ubuntu do you have?
[10:08] <h0ax> is ubuntu in english ?
[10:08] <administrator_> jack_sparrow: u see what i am saying
[10:08] <adam> for exectuing C files?
[10:08] <sovieticool> how i disable screen server from terminal ?
[10:09] <bujah> hi
[10:09] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, The default is ask.
[10:09] <lol> hi
[10:09] <kitche> h0ax: of course there is other languages as well
[10:09] <g333k_work> kitche, how do I know that? I think 6.0.3
[10:09] <blue-frog> sovieticool: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:09] <kitche> g333k_work: you have plain ubuntu right?
[10:09] <h0ax> ahhh gdgd
[10:09] <h0ax> never used ubuntu
[10:09] <boink> in how many languages is ubuntu?
[10:10] <boink> 20?
[10:10] <kitche> h0ax: it works like debian but more up to date :)
[10:10] <bruenig> boink, more than that
[10:10] <Gevaudan82> eyequeue: thank you! i would like into that
[10:10] <bruenig> tons
[10:10] <boink> they lost count :P
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yes, I dont have an answer..
[10:10] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, you can use a ssh -o for a one-time change, since ask is safer than no
[10:10] <boink> I'll try to install it in Afrikaans
[10:10] <adam> gtg thanks all
[10:10] <inglor> hey, my shitty ISP won't let me access IRC, any way around it? it's only at work, I have another box at home running windows on another ISP
[10:10] <inglor> this is my laptop by the way
[10:10] <boink> iglor: just ssh to the other box
[10:10] <Gevaudan82> eyequeue: i'm using pssh to do all of this...pssh accepts an O argument and anything ssh argument after that so it should work in that aspect
[10:10] <sess> anyone got any experience with cpufreqency on demand settings?  I can't get my processors max speed back, it only goes back up to 1.6ghz instead of 1.8.
[10:11] <eyequeue> !language > inglor
[10:11] <inglor> sorry
[10:11] <kitche> inglor: your work has a firewall up
[10:11] <boink> can you still use ssh?
[10:11] <inglor> I think so, I can use ssh probably
[10:11] <boink> ok, just ssh to the other box. problem solved. happy irc'ing
[10:11] <bl4cktone> this version of xchat sucks, am I able to use the old one I had while I was in hedgehog?
[10:11] <Neo8750> Version 2.6.17.6 vs 2.6.17-7-386
[10:11] <eyequeue> inglor, ssh to an ubuntu box and run irssi from there (under screen)
[10:12] <inglor> second question, I installed hebrew support, it worked before but stopped working when I got XGL it stopped working in gnome (still working in KDE), is there any way to fix that?
[10:12] <boink> just like how to get around the Great Firewall of China
[10:12] <boink> ssh to another box :)
[10:12] <g333k_work> Hi, mydefault runlevel  is5, but gdm doesnt load at boot, what could be the problem?
[10:12] <eyequeue> inglor, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:12] <administrator_> Jack_sparrow: u there?
[10:12] <inglor> it's not XGL related, it's language support related
[10:13] <inglor> I need to get alt+shift to switch languages again
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs for another minute
[10:13] <administrator_> Jack_sparrow: ok cool
[10:13] <eyequeue> inglor, xgl broke it you said, as it breaks everything
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> I was helping sureshot with a programming problem
[10:13] <bruenig> boink, 102 from a quick repo search
[10:13] <mathieu> anyone having issues with phpmyadmin and dapper ? when i try to log in i get bounced back to the login page
[10:13] <swinn> g333_work: you can run xorg ?? and gnome ??
[10:13] <inglor> eyequeue, can you just tell me how to set the key combo that toggles a language?
[10:13] <Gevaudan82> eyeque: hmm, close but StrictHostKeyChecking seems to only give to options 1. refuse everything which is not already a known host or 2. prompt the user to add a new site as a known host...i really need to just add everyone as a known host
[10:13] <luckyone_> will dapper get the newer release of Banshee?
[10:14] <eyequeue> inglor, no idea, i don't use xgl
[10:14] <blue-frog> bl4cktone: if u really insist of installing dead horses, xchat from universe..
[10:14] <inglor> eyequeue, it's XGL under gnome, it's the same way you'd do it in normal ubuntu
[10:14] <nickspoon> zaggynl: export DISPLAY=:2 before running your app in a terminal.
[10:14] <Flannel> luckyone_: no.  versions are frozen, save bugfixes.
[10:14] <eyequeue> inglor, i'm not a gui guy really
[10:14] <luckyone_> Flannel, grrrrrr
[10:14] <zaggynl> nickspoon, <3
[10:14] <luckyone_> Flannel, will it make edgy?
[10:14] <Flannel> luckyone_: you're welcome to install it yourself, or wait for it in edgy (er, when did it get released?)
[10:15] <eyequeue> !info banshee dapper
[10:15] <luckyone_> today
[10:15] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB
[10:15] <eyequeue> !info banshee edgy
[10:15] <inglor> ok, anyone, how do I change the shortcut that changes languages, or at least get an icon up that lets you choose
[10:15] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.12-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 922 kB, installed size 2924 kB
[10:15] <inglor> !languages
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <inglor> !language support
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <eyequeue> luckyone_, ^^
[10:15] <luckyone_> Flannel, 0.11 was just released
[10:15] <Gevaudan82> eyequeue: actually that's totally my bad...i overlooked the sentence mentioning the no argument...that will work...thanks again
[10:15] <Flannel> luckyone_: universe freeze... I don't know when universe freeze is.
[10:15] <eyequeue> Gevaudan82, good luck
[10:16] <eyequeue> !schedule
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:16] <GomezDen> Quick question, What is the linux equivilent to hyper terminal?
[10:16] <eyequeue> GomezDen, tell us what it does
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> later all
[10:16] <bruenig> inglor what is the language changing shortcut you speak of
[10:16] <aldur> !file-roller
[10:16] <ubotu> file-roller: an archive manager for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 635 kB, installed size 4648 kB
[10:17] <inglor> bruenig, I need alt+shift to change languages like it used to
[10:17] <aldur> !lha
[10:17] <ubotu> lha: lzh archiver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.14i-10 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 168 kB
[10:17] <GomezDen> eyequeue: makes connections using like the COM1 to hook up to a router and what not.
[10:17] <bruenig> inglor how did you get alt+shift to change languages in the first place?
[10:17] <eyequeue> GomezDen, what is com1?
[10:17] <inglor> bruenig, it was default
[10:17] <snerge> I am trying to install ubuntu on a raid 0 SATA. I installed dmraid, created my partitions with cfdisk, I can see all of them on the raid but when I reboot, ubuntu starts with it can't mount the / filesystem, any idea ?
[10:17] <eyequeue> GomezDen, do you mean eth0?
[10:17] <bruenig> inglor, what was the commad that shortcut executed
[10:17] <bruenig> command*
[10:17] <bmcfarli> whats the shell command for remover dir?
[10:17] <GomezDen> eyequeue: its one of those sweet ports on the back of computers.
[10:18] <bruenig> bmcfarli, rm -r works
[10:18] <eyequeue> GomezDen, do you mean eth0?
[10:18] <GomezDen> eyequeue: i think its called the serial port
[10:18] <GomezDen> eyequeue: no not eth0
[10:18] <inglor> bruenig, no idea, it was default
[10:18] <bruenig> inglor, that is a problem, until you can figure the command out, it will be hard to figure out how to recover it
[10:19] <bruenig> is there some other way to change languages?
[10:19] <eyequeue> GomezDen, i don't have one here, but /dev/something
[10:19] <Phantom> what is a good open source alternative for microsoft publisher?  i don't care if it can read the file format, as long as it works in a similar way.
[10:19] <inglor> bruenig, yes, I can get hebrew when I change my default layout to hebrew and move it to first in keyboard prefrences
[10:19] <administrator_> jack_sparrow:?
[10:20] <administrator_> jack_sparrow: ur leavin?
[10:20] <inglor> *in "keyboard"
[10:20] <sureshot> administrator he as left the channel
[10:20] <administrator_> dammit
[10:20] <reptyle> GomezDen, your looking for minicom, the serial ports are /dev/ttyS0 - /dev/ttyS3
[10:21] <GomezDen> reptyle: so aquire the minicom and slayith the Cisco 1700
[10:21] <eyequeue> reptyle, thanks, it's been too many years since i saw a serial port, heh
[10:21] <bl4cktone> Hey guys i've got a Dell inspiron 9300 and the bottom subwoofer in the laptop isn't funtioning,   any ideas on how I would get that working?  In windows it has it's own volume control.
[10:21] <iapx8088> bl4cktone, see alsaconf -alsa
[10:21] <GomezDen> eyequeue: i believe they are still standard on mobos
[10:21] <eyequeue> GomezDen, not on this laptop
[10:21] <bmcfarli> also i have tons of stuff in the grubs loader. how do i clean that one up?
[10:22] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:22] <reptyle> GomezDen, minicom is a terminal based application (its non graphical, runs from a terminal) and is a general purpose terminal program for connecting thru modems and null modems.
[10:22] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, sudo update-grub
[10:22] <GomezDen> reptyle: thanks you much
[10:22] <bmcfarli> thanks
[10:22] <ultradude> ubuntu is the first distro who got my front panel media button with dell inspiron 6000
[10:22] <reptyle> !minicom
[10:22] <ubotu> minicom: friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-10 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 892 kB
[10:22] <eyequeue> bmcfarli, np
[10:24] <ultradude> who do i get my wireless card to work... bcm43xx
[10:24] <trakz> Has anyone got any experience getting hostap running?
[10:25] <bl4cktone> iapx8088 I don't understand what you mean alsaconf -alsa
[10:25] <blue-frog> ultradude: system > admin >networking
[10:26] <gershon> filesystem launcher on desktop ?
[10:27] <eyequeue> GomezDen, no parallel port on this laptop either, i recall being surprised at both omissions
[10:28] <qwertyuiop> Hi!
[10:28] <Neo8750> eyequeue: do you have firewire etc them?
[10:29] <eyequeue> Neo8750, iptables and firestarter on this box, well, not presently i guess.  just iptables
[10:29] <eyequeue> Neo8750, when i'm in dapper i have firestarter though
[10:29] <Neo8750> no i ment firewire port
[10:29] <Neo8750> =)
[10:29] <mcscruff> lo, is it possible to do something similar to windows's ICS on ubuntu? ath0 = internet and eth0 = crossover cable to other pc?
[10:30] <GomezDen> eyequeue: did they at least put more usb ports on there for ya?
[10:30] <eyequeue> Neo8750, um, iptables handles all my ports   ?
[10:30] <bmcfarli> so is there a good multi package downloader? easyubuntu is out
[10:30] <eyequeue> GomezDen, it's got onboard eth and wireless, so i guess that's all i need, heh
[10:31] <POVaddct> mcscruff: so you want to use the laptop as a nat router for the pc?
[10:31] <Neo8750> eyequeue: firewire = a type of hardware....
[10:31] <misterPhyrePhox> i'm installing the ubuntu server version, and after i go through the little wizard and it detects my hardware and all that, i'm left with a blue screen and a gray bar at the bottom where i can type
[10:31] <mcscruff> POVaddct, basically yes
[10:31] <misterPhyrePhox> is it still installing?
[10:31] <misterPhyrePhox> or has something gone wrong?
[10:31] <Neo8750> either that or i'm really stoned and screwin up hehe
[10:31] <eyequeue> Neo8750, ah, i'm not familiar with new fancy stuff :)  that explains it i guess
[10:31] <JoseStefan> hi
[10:31] <bl4cktone> what is alsaconf -alsa, I mean is it a command I should use?  I know it has to do with the soundcard but I don't know how to access it
[10:31] <mcscruff> POVaddct, or be able to bridge the connections
[10:31] <eyequeue> Neo8750, you might be stoned as well, but blame it on my lack of funds, heh
[10:32] <JoseStefan> err, i mean, Ahoy me mateys!
[10:32] <misterPhyrePhox> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[10:32] <POVaddct> mcscruff: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ath0 -j MASQUERADE
[10:32] <eyequeue> !caps > misterPhyrePhox
[10:32] <bl4cktone> JoseStefan, hoy me matie!
[10:32] <Neo8750> =8-P
[10:32] <misterPhyrePhox> i was talking like a pirate...
[10:32] <POVaddct> mcscruff: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[10:32] <hegoi> hola??
[10:32] <eyequeue> misterPhyrePhox, um, why?
[10:32] <misterPhyrePhox> its international talk like a pirate day
[10:32] <mth`MAW> hi there...
[10:32] <JoseStefan> !es
[10:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:32] <mcscruff> ty POVaddct
[10:33] <eyequeue> misterPhyrePhox, ugh
[10:33] <misterPhyrePhox> indeed
[10:33] <eyequeue> misterPhyrePhox, i guess i'll come back tomorrow
[10:33] <misterPhyrePhox> ...
[10:34] <mth`MAW> I do have a problem with flgrx it worked, but after some updates I do have problems with gl
[10:34] <mth`MAW> xorg.log says:
[10:34] <mth`MAW> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3702/
[10:34] <mth`MAW> So if someone can help .... I am your man ...
[10:35] <bl4cktone> I'm a pirate--a pirate I be, and just like Johnny Depp, it is a pirate's life for me.
[10:35] <POVaddct> mcscruff: you'll probably have to change the dns server setting on the pc
[10:35] <mcscruff> POVaddct, thats all gd and easy
[10:35] <POVaddct> mcscruff: does it work?
[10:35] <bl4cktone> I sail upon the oceans and I take the seven seas, and I battle false authority and bring it to its knees!
[10:36] <mcscruff> POVaddct, havnt tested yet, but it should do
[10:37] <Splintah> mth`MAW,  you have to recompile the driver for the kernel you upgraded
[10:37] <POVaddct> mcscruff: basically, it's enabling the ip forwarding on the laptop and masquerading of all packets going out on ath0
[10:37] <mth`MAW> I wished you would not have said that :)
[10:37] <bl4cktone> Yo Yo Yo HOOOOOOOOoooooo!
[10:37] <mth`MAW> Splintah:
[10:37] <mth`MAW> :)
[10:37] <web250> anyone know why when trying to install, it always dies wile configuring xserver-xorg?
[10:38] <Samuli^> I've got a minor problem with sound. It seems that when ever I'm streaming a video or music mixer is ineffective.
[10:41] <inglor> any cpu throttler for ubuntu?
[10:42] <mcscruff> POVaddct, it dont seem to be working, i cant ping it
[10:42] <mcscruff> POVaddct, i can ping it if i specify to use eth0 but not as normal
[10:42] <POVaddct> mcscruff: from which machine do you ping?
[10:43] <mcscruff> POVaddct, from this one
[10:43] <mcscruff> and its not a dns issue as its all ips
[10:43] <POVaddct> mcscruff: and which one is "this"? the laptop or the pc
[10:43] <qwertyuiop> Hi! a few days ago I've downloaded ubuntu-6.06-dvd.i386. I could successfully installed it on my laptop but now I'd like to try an EXPERT installation process (I'm used to work on Slackware). I read from the manuals that I should get the "Alternate ISO". Is there any other solution to my problem?
[10:44] <mcscruff> POVaddct,  im on my laptop ( the one with ath0 and eth0)
[10:44] <POVaddct> mcscruff: and which target do you ping?
[10:44] <Neo8750> qwertyuiop: why do you want a expert install?
[10:45] <mcscruff> POVaddct, my eth0 is a static ip as 192.168.0.10 on here and 192.168.0.11 on the other pc
[10:45] <noriega> what program should I use for VNC?
[10:45] <JoseStefan> mth`MAW, are you using 386 or 686? (or 64-bit)         run: uname -r
[10:45] <hawkaloogie> noriega, tightvnc
[10:45] <POVaddct> mcscruff: and you can't ping the pc from the laptop?
[10:45] <qwertyuiop> well, I'd like to have the development packages, apache, mySql, eclipse installed...
[10:45] <noriega> hawkaloogie: will that connect to other versions of vnc as well?
[10:45] <mcscruff> POVaddct, nope ( only when i specify to use eth0)
[10:46] <hawkaloogie> noriega, yes
[10:46] <noriega> thanks
[10:46] <hawkaloogie> qwertyuiop, they're available from apt-get. as well as apt-get build-deps, and apt-get source
[10:46] <some1974> have just insalled ubuntu and having trouble ith wireless. Can someone help?
[10:46] <mth`MAW> 686 not 64bit
[10:46] <mth`MAW> JoseStefan: 686 not 64
[10:47] <JoseStefan> mth`MAW, try: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[10:47] <POVaddct> mcscruff: the ping command doesn't let you choose a specific interface, does it?
[10:47] <mth`MAW> linux-686 ist schon die neueste Version.
[10:47] <mcscruff> POVaddct, use -I and it does
[10:47] <qwertyuiop> I'm quite a newbie here on Ubuntu and Debian... (I'm used to work on Slackware and RedHat)
[10:47] <mth`MAW> Means it is the newst version
[10:48] <qwertyuiop> how does the "apt-get" thing work?
[10:48] <POVaddct> mcscruff: are eth0 and ath0 in the same network?
[10:48] <mcscruff> POVaddct, yes
[10:48] <drbashir> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel? (my running kernel is the latest)
[10:48] <POVaddct> mcscruff: the setup i described is NOT bridging, so the interfaces must be in different networks
[10:48] <JoseStefan> mth`MAW, i suppose you can run the update-manager and check for updates again, other than that i'm out of ideas
[10:48] <POVaddct> mcscruff: if you want briging, the setup is different
[10:48] <mcscruff> POVaddct, is there anyway to bridge them?
[10:49] <qwertyuiop> Do I need to "apt-get" every development package (gcc, libs, headers and stuff) or may I use something smarter?
[10:49] <POVaddct> mcscruff: yes. but then you can't use individual ip adresses for eth0 and ath0
[10:49] <tuxtux_> notte a tutti
[10:49] <hawkaloogie> qwertyuiop, or synaptic. synaptic is a GUI for apt-get
[10:49] <mth`MAW> JoseStefan: thx but i did that about thousand-times tody
[10:49] <mth`MAW> today
[10:49] <qwertyuiop> tux: notte
[10:49] <farsat> hallo
[10:49] <inglor> hey, for some reason the down key is opening yelp now... is there any way to unbind it?
[10:49] <hawkaloogie> qwertyuiop, no, apt-get install build-essentials <- I don't know if it's build-essential or build-essentials
[10:49] <mcscruff> POVaddct, thts ok, bridging will b fine :)
[10:50] <drbashir> farsat, Hi, you dutch?
[10:50] <Neo8750> no s on end
[10:50] <POVaddct> mcscruff: i don't know how to set up bridging right now, i have to search a bit. omompl
[10:50] <inglor>  hey, for some reason the down key is opening yelp now... is there any way to unbind it?
[10:50] <hawkaloogie> qwertyuiop, if you need headers though, you'd have to find the -dev package. like apache2-dev, or xorg-server-dev, etc... use synaptic or apt-cache search
[10:50] <hawkaloogie> inglor, don't repeat
[10:51] <mcscruff> POVaddct, ok
[10:51] <Svip> Hey.
[10:51] <Svip> Is is possible install Ubuntu without the graphical engine?
[10:51] <Samuli^> inglor, powernowd
[10:51] <Svip> Cause X is making this machine mad.
[10:51] <Subhuman> Svip, you mean a text install?
[10:51] <Neo8750> Svip: alternate cd
[10:51] <Samuli^> inglor, should be installed by default.
[10:51] <piglit> hello i want to channge the size of a lvm partition it needs to get bigger what is the command to do this?
[10:51] <Subhuman> or an install without X ?
[10:51] <Svip> Without X.
[10:51] <Subhuman> Svip, you cna do both with the alternative install
[10:51] <Svip> Smart.
[10:51] <Svip> Okay thanks!
[10:51] <Subhuman> to install without X being installed, you need to do an expert install
[10:52] <qwertyuiop> so... as far as I can understand I can use apt-get to install packages and "MacroPackages". Is that it?
[10:52] <Samuli^> Svip, do server-install.
[10:52] <steven43126> Is it possoble to install ubuntu server with all the partitions RAID even the boot partition, i tried and can't boot because of unrecognized partition type ?
[10:52] <drbashir> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel? (my running kernel is the latest)
[10:53] <inglor> samuli, I found out dynamic cpu scaling is already enabled, is there any way to fix the second problem?
[10:53] <Samuli^> inglor, what was the second problem?
[10:53] <Neo8750> linux-headers-something
[10:53] <POVaddct> mcscruff: okay, here we go: ifconfig eth0 0 ; ifconfig ath0 ; brctl addbr br0 ; brctl stp br0 off ; brctl addif br0 eth0 ; brctl addif br0 ath0 ; ifconfig br0 <former-ip-address-of-ath0> ; route add default gw <default-gw-in-your_wlan>
[10:54] <erUSUL> drbashir: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' they will install in /usr/src/ && /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-k7/build/
[10:54] <inglor> samuli, the down key is bound to opening yelp for some reason
[10:54] <Neo8750> that was it $(uname -r)
[10:54] <noriega> hawkaloogie: great, it's working now :D
[10:54] <drbashir> erUSUL, thx!
[10:55] <Samuli^> inglor, have you checked system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts?
[10:55] <POVaddct> mcscruff: correction for the second command: ifconfig ath0 0
[10:55] <inglor> samuli, one secodn
[10:56] <erUSUL> drbashir: no problem
[10:56] <mcscruff> POVaddct, i found a nice guide here http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/bonding.htm
[10:56] <POVaddct> mcscruff: bonding != bridging
[10:56] <inglor> samuli, thanks, sorry for the dumb question
[10:56] <qwertyuiop> hawkaloogie: thanks for your support. I'll try it now...
[10:57] <qmf> can anyone suggest a decent app to capture desktop activity to video?
[10:57] <qwertyuiop> rebooting and reinstalling NOW... ;-)
[10:57] <qwertyuiop> thanks.
[10:57] <qwertyuiop> bye
[10:57] <qmf> istanbul didn't go too smooth.
[10:57] <matjan> BenC, i saw just now you posted a reply to my bugreport (56878)...
[10:57] <hawkaloogie> qwertyuiop, rebooting?
[10:57] <botxj> !xgl
[10:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:57] <Samuli^> inglor, no problem. I don't know the menus all that well myself :)
[10:57] <lcohen> yenta_socket
[10:57] <hawkaloogie> qwertyuiop, you shouldn't have to reboot for anything besides a kernel update
[10:57] <lcohen> hello all, I have a Dell 700m, I thought before it found my PCMCIA card ok, but now I am not too sure, in kinfocentre it says that it si not there, when I do a sudo modprobe pcmcia I get nothign in return, can anyone offer some direction?
[10:58] <mcscruff> POVaddct, is that guide crap then?
[10:58] <qwertyuiop> I HAVE to reboot, I'm running WinXP right now... :-)
[10:58] <POVaddct> mcscruff: its for a different thing
[10:58] <matjan> BenC, but i am not sure how it relates to the bug i reported...
[10:58] <matjan> BenC, could you please enlighten me?
[10:58] <qwertyuiop> hawkaloogie: I need that virus away from my HD as soon as possible.. :-)
[10:58] <hawkaloogie> ah, nice
[10:59] <BenC> matjan: hold on a sec
[10:59] <lcohen> basically i have a PCMCIA bluetooth card I would like to get going....
[10:59] <matjan> BenC, ok
[10:59] <xukun_> can somebody recommend me a good fast peer to peer  program?
[10:59] <qwertyuiop> rebooting and reinstalling NOW... ;-)
[10:59] <POVaddct> mcscruff: bonding is for using two or more interfaces to increase throughput
[10:59] <tph> Hi
[10:59] <qwertyuiop> bye
[10:59] <BenC> matjan: I replied to someone elses comment, and set the status wrong
[10:59] <mcscruff> POVaddct, bash: brctl: command not found
[11:00] <BenC> matjan: fixed the status, ignore my comment (it wasn't in response to you)
[11:00] <POVaddct> mcscruff: apt-get install bridgeutils
[11:00] <tph> My home directory was suddenly filled with files(about 1GB) called something like tmp*.wav containing some of the music I've listened to =s Wonder if it is rhythmbox or another program
[11:01] <matjan> BenC, ahh... ok, you replied to ybkosher i assume?
[11:02] <BenC> matjan: yeah, should have noted that in the reply, sorry
[11:02] <matjan> BenC, no problem
[11:02] <matjan> BenC, did you by any chance look at what i reported?
[11:03] <kinga> hi there everybody, I have a problem with a new install connected to the internet WiFi. Firefox apparently cannot resolve names. Any ideas?
[11:03] <kalif> can linux resolve names?
[11:03] <BenC> matjan: crimsun (Daniel T Chen) will most likely get to it before I do
[11:03] <kinga> From the terminal I can ping any estination yes
[11:03] <kinga> it's just Firefox
[11:04] <quiet> kinga tried turning off offline mode?
[11:04] <quiet> under File ->
[11:04] <matjan> BenC, he told me that this was a known problem and that there is a patch... but i cannot seem to find any info on that
[11:04] <SeAofSaRo> hello all
[11:04] <cf12345> ubotu, ati > me
[11:04] <drbashir> hi SeAofSaRo
[11:05] <cf12345> ubotu, ati > cf12345
[11:05] <SeAofSaRo> I'm an ubuntu newbie seeking help with installing maya 7
[11:05] <kinga> quiet: let me check that's in the other room
[11:05] <SeAofSaRo> hi drbashir
[11:05] <cf12345> ubotu, search build > cf12345
[11:05] <quiet> kinga, also, if that's already turned off, then pastebin at rafb.net/paste   -  the output of 'sudo cat /etc/resolv.conf && ping -c 3 www.google.com'
[11:06] <kinga> quiet: I can't do that as I have no line :(
[11:07] <kinga> quiet: I also noticed that "gateway" is not keeping the setting in Network setup
[11:07] <SeAofSaRo> i was using alien to convert the rpm files to debian files, and converted all of the rpms on the maya install disc
[11:07] <quiet> kinga, static IP or dhcp?
[11:08] <SeAofSaRo> then i ran sudo dpkg -i on the suse installer instead of the standard one
[11:08] <kinga> quiet: static
[11:08] <SeAofSaRo> now every time i try to do anything i get the error "E: The package aksusbd-suse needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[11:08] <quiet> kinda go to pastebin and type in what you have in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:08] <gnomefreak> SeAofSaRo: remove it and reinstall it
[11:08] <SeAofSaRo> how do i remove it?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg -r packagename
[11:09] <kinga> quiet: I all try that
[11:09] <kinga> quiet: I heard there were issues with ipv6
[11:09] <quiet> shouldn't be.
[11:09] <quiet> are you running ipv6?
[11:09] <amarokker> Hi, gnomefreak- what is the command to reconfigure xfonts? dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-xserver?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> amarokker: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfonts
[11:10] <amarokker> k.
[11:10] <amarokker> nope. :S
[11:11] <sureshot> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfonts
[11:11] <SeAofSaRo> it tells me that it is in a very bad inconsistent state and should be reinstalled before uninstalling
[11:11] <SeAofSaRo> but when i reinstall i get errors
[11:12] <amarokker> sureshot: tried xfonts-xorg (vice versa) and that too.
[11:12] <amarokker> i remember seeing that once on an ubuntu-howto
[11:12] <SeAofSaRo> it just keeps going on and on because i can't remove it or reinstall it properly
[11:12] <sureshot> ok just thought that was it sorry
[11:12] <amarokker> no probs. lemme google.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> SeAofSaRo: man dpkg    look for a force option
[11:14] <amarokker> sureshot: in case you wanted to know, its dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig :D
[11:14] <sureshot> ok thanks and who would have thought. LOLOL
[11:14] <d3v1ant0n3> hellos
[11:14] <Commander-Crowe> does anyone know if AGP pro takes the regular AGP cards?
[11:15] <sureshot> spent all my life in ms linux is new to me but i am trying have 2 computers running it
[11:15] <crooksey> Evening, any need help?
[11:15] <d3v1ant0n3> So I've just had a whole bunch of updates appear on the 'update' notifier thingy...they scare me a little
[11:15] <Samuli^> d3v1ant0n3, they are a good thing
[11:15] <Commander-Crowe> does anyone know if AGP pro takes the regular AGP cards?
[11:15] <crooksey> Yea, they will update packages
[11:16] <sureshot> go to the manufacture of your motherboard and check out the spec there
[11:16] <d3v1ant0n3> they look like kernel updates...that's the main component, right?
[11:16] <erUSUL> !kernel
[11:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:16] <crooksey> They are fine, i have just update myself
[11:17] <bl4cktone> My spoon is too big
[11:17] <foo> I notice ubuntu is just 1 cd for desktop. Does that have all the packages on there? I am going to recommend it to someone on a dial up connection. hm
[11:17] <crooksey> through the GUI, its fine
[11:17] <d3v1ant0n3> ok....I just ran automatix (to put this on), and then the updates appeared...wasn't sure if I'd screwed my sources or something :p
[11:17] <djm62> Foo: one CD is enough for normal desktop computing
[11:17] <d3v1ant0n3> Might be faster to order a cd than download it on dialup:p
[11:18] <crooksey> Nah, more repos, more packages to update
[11:18] <d3v1ant0n3> But yes, most essential software comes bundled on the cd with Ubuntu
[11:18] <crooksey> But it may have major updates
[11:18] <foo> djm62: thanks
[11:18] <djm62> Foo: depending on where you are, it might be an idea to look out for a magazine with the latest ubuntu release on the cover?
[11:19] <crooksey> shipit?
[11:19] <foo> djm62: Ah, I think I'm game. Hm, thanks
[11:19] <godfather> hi guys
[11:19] <crooksey> hey
[11:19] <godfather> i need to install ymessenger
[11:19] <crooksey> iok....
[11:20] <crooksey> tried apt?
[11:20] <godfather> ymessenger7
[11:20] <godfather> yeah
[11:20] <crooksey> y as in yahoo?
[11:20] <godfather> but it doesn't work
[11:20] <godfather> yes crooksey
[11:20] <crooksey> Why not use gaim?
[11:20] <godfather> i've tried with Gaim
[11:20] <crooksey> and?
[11:20] <d3v1ant0n3> ok...updates time...wish me luck
[11:20] <godfather> but it doesn't work too
[11:20] <foo> djm62: Does the ubuntu cd get any packages from the net during install?
[11:20] <d3v1ant0n3> do you need ymessenger for Ychat?
[11:21] <crooksey> foo no
[11:21] <godfather> yes
[11:21] <foo> crooksey: thanks
[11:21] <crooksey> 100% offline
[11:21] <gean> hello! Is there any (combined) tool doing the following: i have a LaTeX-presentation, pdf or ps file, and want to make a ''movie'' out of it by inserting sound (audio) and moving through pages with corresponding audio commands... ?! help would be very appreciated!
[11:21] <d3v1ant0n3> Get the windows yahelite from their site (google it), it runs happily, and with better spam/bot/ad blocking
[11:21] <djm62> foo: it will update from the net if it can, but you don't need to
[11:21] <d3v1ant0n3> ok..I'm away...thanks all
[11:22] <foo> djm62: ah, thanks
[11:22] <foo> crooksey: thanks
[11:22] <crooksey> foo: np
[11:24] <SeAofSaRo> thanks for pointing me in the right direction gnomefreak
[11:26] <kinga> quiet_: I manually added gateway 10.0.0.2 (my router IP) into /etc/network/interfaces and that solved the issue
[11:26] <godfather> anyone can help me
[11:26] <ephemeros> laterz! \m/
[11:26] <boink> sure. just ask
[11:27] <godfather> i know that it's late
[11:27] <quiet> kinga, good. :)
[11:27] <boink> it's never late on ubuntu
[11:27] <amarokker> is it advisable to install gnome-2.16 using the garnome script? i really'd like to get my hands on it.
[11:27] <kinga> quiet: do not understad why this was necessary however it works.. :) thanks
[11:27] <quiet> kinga, you also have DNS server in there?
[11:27] <eyS_c0ld> #ubuntu
[11:28] <kinga> quiet: no I don't
[11:28] <kinga> quiet: it's the router
[11:28] <djm62> godfather: just ask your question ;)
[11:28] <godfather> i need to install ymessenger 7
[11:28] <kinga> quiet: so sorry the answer was YES :D
[11:28] <godfather> because gaim doesn't work
[11:28] <boink> isn't there a deb for it?
[11:29] <quiet> kinga, should have:   address | netmask | gateway | dns-nameservers | dns-search   lines.
[11:29] <godfather> yes
[11:29] <boink> look on the yahoo page for ymessenger, there should be a .deb for it
[11:29] <sethk> godfather, works for most things.  I use it with yahoo every day
[11:29] <quiet> and iface of course.
[11:29] <boink> then just dpkg -i ymessenger.deb
[11:29] <godfather> ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:29] <kinga> quiet: yup also essid name as it is on Wlan0
[11:29] <godfather> this is thepackage for debian
[11:29] <quiet> Yahoo messenger for linux is garbage.... use Gaim.
[11:29] <boink> ok .. it's dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:29] <quiet> kinga, ya that too. )
[11:29] <quiet> :)
[11:30] <boink> gaim works quite well too
[11:30] <godfather> but it should work on ubuntu too.isn't it
[11:30] <boink> tried gaim then ?
[11:30] <djm62> godfather: yes it will
[11:30] <exmethix> id like to make a beryl skydome image
[11:31] <eyS_c0ld> so me and my buddy each have cable internet, each are running a linux box as a router, each router has a public ip thats "mostly" static... I am wondering if it is possible to make each of our networks look like one... things like smb shares, internal ftps servers etc become real easy between the two of us... 1. is this possible, and 2. can the bandwidth used between the two networks be throttled... can anyone point me in the right dire
[11:31] <exmethix> will try that the next days
[11:31] <eyS_c0ld> we both use iptables at the moment for our firewalls
[11:31] <quiet> eyS_c0ld, yes, use OpenVPN.
[11:31] <boink> you want to make a VPN ?
[11:31] <boink> you can set up a VPN with ipsec fairly easily
[11:31] <eyS_c0ld> is a VPN what i am looking for?
[11:31] <godfather> it tells me that cannot access archive
[11:31] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, it's possible
[11:31] <boink> that would be the most secure option
[11:31] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, that's not exactly what a vpn does
[11:32] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, a VPN runs a machine on network B as it if were on network A.  It doesn't make network B a part of network A
[11:32] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, that can be done, but it's a different and a bit trickier task
[11:32] <godfather> i'm a stupid
[11:32] <d3v1ant0n3> Hurrah, I didn't blow up installing kernel updates
[11:32] <godfather> sorry guy
[11:32] <godfather> probably
[11:32] <boink> there are no such thing as stupid questions
[11:33] <godfather> i will resolve it in few seconds
[11:33] <omnid> How do I rollback the kernal update?
[11:33] <omnid> I have little options here
[11:33] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, well we are both on different subnets im figuring once i get machine B on network A i can route traffic to make it look like 2 differentr subnets of the same network?
[11:34] <Industrial> Whats the default PostgreSQL 'postgresql' user password? I cant seem to login without a password to locahost.
[11:34] <godfather> ok
[11:34] <PMantis> Anyone here setup a repo with debmirror?
[11:34] <godfather> there are problem with dependency
[11:34] <Industrial> WIth Pgadmin3 that is
[11:34] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, you can, or you can make it look like one big network
[11:34] <vdepizzol> what's the most recent version of nautilus?
[11:34] <Industrial> vdepizzol: google knows better
[11:34] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, ive done something similar with juniper's netscreens.. just dont know how to do it like this...
[11:35] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, if you want them to be separate subnets, that's fine, but you can make them look like one subnet if you prefer
[11:35] <godfather> is it possible make it resolves dependency by itself
[11:35] <godfather> ?
[11:35] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, if its oen big network can i throttle bandwidth?
[11:35] <d3v1ant0n3> Is it possible to put the latest GNOME on Ubuntu Dapper? Or does that mean upgrading to edgy?
[11:35] <PMantis> debmirror issue: Won't mirror without dists/dapper/restriced/binary-i386/Packages.gz signature in Release at /usr/bin/debmirror line 1300.
[11:35] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, you have to configure a bridge, and also compensate for the fact that the link is over the public 'net.
[11:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Would anyone have any guides to using/learning Nvu that they could email or send me via DCC
[11:35] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, yes, you can set quotas and use traffic shapers
[11:36] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, ok this is with ipSec?
[11:36] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, there are a number of features added to the most recent kernels.  I
[11:36] <godfather> any idea?
[11:36] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, I'm still learning how to use them
[11:36] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, not specifically IPsec
[11:36] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, wanna learn together? :-D
[11:36] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, ipsec or more of a wrapper around things
[11:37] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, well, we can share the knowledge
[11:37] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, link me to a howto or a start.. something to get me going?
[11:38] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, I'll look.  I'm helping paying customers at the same time, so I'll be in and out of here
[11:38] <rakpub> where can i get the newest release of edgy eft?
[11:38] <rawbr> hello.
[11:38] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, what do ya do?
[11:38] <sess> ubotu: !tee
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <brendonjt> OT:the ubuntu CC  are bunch of wankers
[11:39] <sess> can someone tell me what tee means
[11:39] <sess> or does
[11:39] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, port operating systems to new environments, write device drivers, mostly
[11:39] <sess> and why I can't directly manipulate cpu_max_freq in ubuntu
[11:39] <sess> err scaled_max_freq
[11:39] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, sounds like fun
[11:39] <sethk> sess, tee is just a program that takes output and sends it to both a file and the standard output
[11:40] <sethk> sess, if you do, say:          ls | tee abc
[11:40] <bobobogu> !usb-storage
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb-storage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <sethk> sess, then you see the output of ls, and the output also ends up in file abc
[11:40] <godfather> i need xlibs and libssl0
[11:40] <omnid> Hello!
[11:40] <omnid> How would I rollback the kernal?
[11:40] <d3v1ant0n3> Hello!
[11:40] <omnid> My wifi no longer works no thanks to this update
[11:40] <omnid> the kernal update
[11:41] <sess> sethk: oh, I was just wondering because I was struggling with my processor cpu freqency settings being wrong, and not being able to cat new values into it until I was told that I had to use sudo tee on the recieving end of the pipe
[11:41] <krazykit> omnid: reboot, at the grub menu, hit escape, then choose the previous kernel
[11:41] <d3v1ant0n3> For some reason all the kernel update did for me was give me a slightly faster boot time
[11:41] <omnid> krazykit okay
[11:41] <eugman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop could use some more prorams and organization. I' afraid there is only so much I know on the subject.
[11:41] <sethk> sess, that doesn't help as far as I can see.  It will let you see what is going into a file as it goes into the file, but that seems irrelevant
[11:41] <Gilnim> what't the command for changing password in a running session
[11:42] <rawbr> that's cool
[11:42] <sethk> Gilnim, passwd
[11:42] <Gilnim> k
[11:42] <sethk> Gilnim, passwd changes the password for the current user
[11:42] <sethk> Gilnim, there is also    passwd username         but only root can do that
[11:43] <gubluntu> how can i find out if my kernel is 386 or 686 and how do i upgrade to 686 if im on 386?
[11:43] <indigoblu> gubluntu, uname -a
[11:44] <d3v1ant0n3> How would I go about connecting to windows computer on the same router? With Mepis I could just open Samba Shares and the other comp would be there
[11:44] <gubluntu> 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:44] <d3v1ant0n3> But in Ubuntu, the computer shows, but it won't let me connect
[11:44] <sethk> d3v1ant0n3, if you've installed samba you can do the same thing
[11:44] <indigoblu> gubluntu, all the other kernel packages can be installed via the package manager
[11:44] <d3v1ant0n3> I installed Samba from the repos
[11:44] <sethk> d3v1ant0n3, you have to log in on the windows side
[11:44] <sethk> d3v1ant0n3, you won't see the windows files until you log in with a user/pass that is valid on the windows box
[11:45] <gubluntu>  indigoblu, which packages do i need to isntall?
[11:45] <d3v1ant0n3> I didn't need to do that before....the shared folder is on a user group with no password on the windows box if thats any help
[11:46] <OmniD> and I would like to thank krazykit for helping me resolve this issue!
[11:46] <bobobogu> my muvo mp3 plyer don't mount automaticly udev says usb-storage has been loaded but nothing else
[11:47] <TheHolyDuck> i have a minor problem with xubuntu if anyone is intrested to help? :P
[11:47] <bobobogu> any ideas ? :)
[11:47] <godfather> djm62
[11:47] <TheHolyDuck> i managed to delete some files, and you dont have a trash can thingy on xubuntu
[11:47] <godfather> anyone using yahoo messenger
[11:47] <sethk> have to go for a bit, I'll be back shortly (I hope) all.
[11:47] <godfather> i got the . deb
[11:47] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, yes, you do
[11:47] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, somewhere
[11:48] <krazykit> no, sethk
[11:48] <TheHolyDuck> actualy
[11:48] <TheHolyDuck> its in ubuntu
[11:48] <krazykit> xfce has no trash can
[11:48] <godfather> but i have problem with dependencies
[11:48] <TheHolyDuck> not in xubuntu
[11:48] <krazykit> TheHolyDuck: right.  when you delete something, it's actually deleted.
[11:48] <TheHolyDuck> is there a file recovery program for ext3?
[11:48] <TheHolyDuck> :P
[11:48] <TheHolyDuck> ;)
[11:48] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, there are some around, but the odds aren't good.
[11:49] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, but, if you delete something at the desktop level, it is put into a trash kind of thing
[11:49] <TheHolyDuck> i havent writen any thing to the disk since then
[11:49] <krazykit> sethk: no, not in xubuntu.  xfce doesn't support .Trash
[11:49] <parag0n> i've installed ubuntu on a small partiton, and now i want to move it onto a bigger partition, how would i go about this?
[11:49] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, then you have a chance
[11:49] <TheHolyDuck> i was thinking that
[11:49] <sethk> krazykit, he was talking about gnome
[11:49] <parag0n> can i just cp it, or will i need to dd it?
[11:49] <TheHolyDuck> nope
[11:49] <TheHolyDuck> Xubuntu
[11:49] <TheHolyDuck> ubuntu running on xfce
[11:49] <qmf> can anyone suggest a decent app to capture desktop activity to video?
[11:49] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, oh, you said gnome, I think.
[11:50] <d3v1ant0n3> If I try an open a network shared folder (on a windows box) I get this "Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "x-directory/smb-share", then open the file normally."
[11:50] <TheHolyDuck> i saw one for ext2.
[11:50] <TheHolyDuck> but none for ext 3 :(
[11:50] <sethk> or maybe I just added it in  :)
[11:50] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, same
[11:50] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, ext3 is a superset of ext2
[11:50] <TheHolyDuck> ture
[11:50] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, the undelete (if it works) will work for both
[11:50] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, after a little reading... I should setup a vpn server on lets say my router, then my friends router can be setup as a vpn client... then just change routing tables a bit... sound right?
[11:50] <bobobogu> does vfat cover fat12?
[11:50] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, as long as you don't write.
[11:50] <giga> is there a program that I can use to make my own themes?
[11:51] <bobobogu> or should i type fat12
[11:51] <TheHolyDuck> i havent touched the pc since then :)
[11:51] <TheHolyDuck> i got 2
[11:51] <bobobogu> under the -t flag when mounting i mean
[11:51] <TheHolyDuck> i know how file recovery works
[11:51] <sethk> eyS_c0ld, that makes your friend able to operate as if he were sitting next to you.  so if that's what you need ...
[11:51] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, ok
[11:51] <sethk> TheHolyDuck, then give the ext2 one a try
[11:51] <TheHolyDuck> okeh i culd do that
[11:51] <sethk> bobobogu, if you use   -t msdos   it will figure out which fat
[11:52] <sethk> sorry have to go, back in a  bit
[11:52] <bobobogu> sethk: chears :)
[11:52] <eyS_c0ld> sethk, well the point is that his "router" is acting like its sitting next to me.. which in theory with some routing tables setup right, his internal pcs can see mine and vice versa...
[11:52] <FurryNemesis> Hello. Where can Ifind my sources.list? Search seems to be throwing a hissy fit and I can't remember the path...
[11:52] <Steil> is there an easy way to strip hyperlinks in open office?
[11:52] <krazykit> FurryNemesis: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:52] <krazykit> err
[11:53] <bobobogu> sethk: if it is fat12 could i type fat12?
[11:53] <krazykit> not the .d
[11:53] <bobobogu> out of interest
[11:53] <FurryNemesis> thanks, krazykit
[11:53] <boink> man locate too
[11:53] <boink> and updatedb
[11:53] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu dont you mean fat16?
[11:53] <bobobogu> nope
[11:53] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu ewww fat12?
[11:54] <misterPhyrePhox> the ubuntu installer is freezing after the step, "reading all physical volumes. this may take awhile"
[11:54] <bobobogu> creative muvo's are fat12
[11:54] <bobobogu> the old ones
[11:54] <misterPhyrePhox> its been an hour, and its not showing any progress bar or any evidence that its doing anything
[11:54] <iqon> my new nano won't automatically mount
[11:54] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu eww
[11:54] <bobobogu> fdisk -l says so too
[11:54] <misterPhyrePhox> anything i could have done wrong? i just booted from the liveCD and told it to install
[11:55] <bobobogu> eyS_c0ld: all though I can fix that theres a firmware update so u can use 16 or 32
[11:55] <misterPhyrePhox> maybe my harddrive is bad?
[11:55] <mhulse> I would like to remove a source package that I installed because it is not working correctly.  I didn't install it with a package manager.  What options are available?
[11:55] <chopit> bonsoir
[11:55] <krazykit> misterPhyrePhox: maybe.  you could always reboot and try again first though
[11:55] <WitchKing> hey fellows when I try to install ubuntu x64 my screen wents black with no error.. is it because the installation CD does not contain SATA driver?
[11:55] <misterPhyrePhox> krazykit: i've tried a couple times
[11:55] <Samuli^> mhulse, you need the source and then man make :)
[11:55] <misterPhyrePhox> same thing every time :(
[11:55] <Graywalker> Hey - got a krazee problem - anyone want to take a crack at it?
[11:56] <krazykit> !ask > Graywalker
[11:56] <mhulse> Samuli^, do you mean make should have provisions for that?  I tried make uninstall and make remove.
[11:56] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu mount options for mount -t fat allow u to use fat12 http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/mount.8.html
[11:56] <Samuli^> mhulse, try man make
[11:56] <Graywalker> Installed Ubuntu 6.06.1... going great.  Installed a few different website programs to test.... suddenly, I'm no longer in the sudoers file list... can't do anything... don't have a root account...
[11:57] <Graywalker> I can only sudo -i
[11:57] <Graywalker> nothing else... synaptic Package manager is gone... can't use it...
[11:57] <krazykit> Graywalker: boot into recovery mode, and edit your /etc/sudoers there
[11:57] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu but it looks liek it should just autodetect if you use msdos... etc...
[11:57] <Svip> Anyone got a guide for dual-booting Ubuntu and Windows from an non-existing Windows system?
[11:57] <Graywalker> How do I boot into recovery mode?
[11:57] <krazykit> Graywalker: reboot, and at the grub menu hit escape.  you'll be given the option
[11:57] <bobobogu> eyS_c0ld: hey thanks :)
[11:58] <d3v1ant0n3> non-existing?
[11:58] <Svip> Yeah.
[11:58] <Graywalker> I guess I'm not pressing escape quick enough...
[11:58] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu, i like it when im actually a help ;-)
[11:58] <SirKillalot> how do I start telnet in the "character at a time mode"?
[11:58] <Svip> I will install Windows after I have formatted the hd.
[11:58] <Graywalker> Rebooooot!!!!  ( THanks! )
[11:58] <d3v1ant0n3> oh ok
[11:58] <Svip> So I install Ubuntu first.
[11:58] <krazykit> it should pop up, Graywalker, with a 3 second timer after POST
[11:59] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu, just curious what is a creativemuvo?
[11:59] <mhulse> Samuli^,  I read through man make and I don't see anything that talks about removing a program built from source code.
[12:00] <eyS_c0ld> bobobogu, nevermind... google is my friend lol
[12:00] <d3v1ant0n3> possibly really quick problem that's bugging me....how can I make panels bottom layer on the desktop (so windows can float over them)?
[12:00] <bobobogu> eyS_c0ld: shure
[12:00] <bobobogu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_muvo
[12:00] <bobobogu> :)