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| DEINOS | im back | 12:53 |
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| DEINOS | edubuntu suport rpm pakages ? | 12:54 |
| DEINOS | guis | 12:54 |
| DEINOS | edubuntu suport rpm pakages ? | 12:54 |
| DEINOS | edubuntu suport rpm pakages ? | 12:55 |
| danielhedblom | DEINOS: most rpm packages will work if you convert them with alien first | 12:57 |
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| DEINOS | ok | 12:57 |
| crimsun | it's highly recommended to use native debs from Canonical repositories | 12:58 |
| crimsun | s/recommended/preferred/ | 12:58 |
| DEINOS | tar xjvf skype-version.tar.bz2 | 01:03 |
| DEINOS | this syntax is correct ? | 01:03 |
| crimsun | yes | 01:03 |
| crimsun | you can also just drop the "jf" | 01:03 |
| crimsun | tar "knows" whether to use bunzip2 or gunzip | 01:04 |
| DEINOS | tar xv skype-version.tar.bz2 | 01:04 |
| crimsun | err | 01:04 |
| crimsun | jv, rather | 01:04 |
| crimsun | just use xf | 01:04 |
| DEINOS | hum | 01:04 |
| DEINOS | what is qt 3.2 ? | 01:05 |
| DEINOS | do u know ? | 01:05 |
| crimsun | what about it? | 01:11 |
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| maxamillion | highvoltage: you around? | 01:15 |
| maxamillion | darn ... :/ | 01:18 |
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| knixtech | hello friends | 02:03 |
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| bddebian | HOwdy | 03:11 |
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| LaserJock | hi Amaranth | 04:37 |
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| Amaranth | hey | 04:42 |
| Amaranth | just got my computer working again | 04:42 |
| === Amaranth smiles at http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/12/1933236 | ||
| LaserJock | heh | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | Amaranth: how's willowng going? | 04:48 |
| Amaranth | LaserJock: It's not right now, I just spent the last 2 days getting my computer working again so I could work on my project for school | 04:50 |
| knixtech | night all | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | Amaranth: ah yeah, I know the feeling | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | I spent like 3 days trying to get my computer upgraded to edgy | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | including several drive wipes | 04:59 |
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| Jones_ | Where can I get edubuntu graphics? | 05:29 |
| Jones_ | particularly the graphic involving a chalk board/classroom | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu-artwork | 05:29 |
| Jones_ | thanks | 05:36 |
| Jones_ | LaserJock: How do I make my brush in gimp bigger? | 05:38 |
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| cbx33 | mornin all | 07:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | gday :) | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | Hi Kamping_Kaiser | 07:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | any thougthts on this: use my laptop as an ltsp server, or build a dapper chroot to build it in on my edgy desktop? | 07:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cos ltsp in edgy is t3h broken atm | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | hmm | 07:47 |
| cbx33 | i used a lappie for ltsp | 07:47 |
| cbx33 | had 9 clients running off it | 07:47 |
| cbx33 | was a dell d600 so not hugely powerful | 07:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool :) | 07:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm trying to get it going for work, but trialing at home | 07:47 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser grrs. ltsp-build-client wont accept a proxy argument :( hope it uses the apt-proxy | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | er, apt.conf | 07:48 |
| cbx33 | Kamping_Kaiser, you should be able to type | 07:49 |
| cbx33 | export http_proxy=http://....................... | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | before running it... | 07:50 |
| cbx33 | that'll get passed to every subshell down the line | 07:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cooooool. could i do that system wide in /etc/bash ? | 07:51 |
| cbx33 | yes | 07:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yay! | 07:54 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser adds | ||
| === Kamping_Kaiser pokes ltsp installer - you better not be about to fail because i already have an /opt/ directory :| | ||
| cbx33 | oh dear | 07:55 |
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| === Kamping_Kaiser wiats for ssh to stop lagging to test | ||
| cbx33 | wb Burgwork | 07:56 |
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| danielhedblom | when i start my thin client i get this message and are the dropped into busybox "nfsmount: need a path" | 08:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | danielhedblom, wish i could help, but i'm having a battle with ltsp myself :) | 08:12 |
| danielhedblom | thanks anyway :D | 08:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | aw :( dapper ltsp doesnt have --debug | 08:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sorry :| | 08:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cbx33, i used the http-proxy thing and ltsp-build-client wouldnt download anythign :| | 08:16 |
| danielhedblom | is there any documentation on the edubuntu ltsp implementation or is it really a stock ltsp install? | 08:18 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser isnt sure. just started playing. others might get active again soon though | ||
| RichEd | danielhedblom: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation | 08:20 |
| RichEd | look for the LTSP items on that page | 08:20 |
| cbx33 | Hi guys | 08:22 |
| cbx33 | I'll be back soon | 08:22 |
| cbx33 | I'll try to help y'all out then ;) | 08:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | later mate :) | 08:22 |
| danielhedblom | RichEd: i have read all of it but to be frank, it is a bit thin | 08:31 |
| danielhedblom | ;D | 08:31 |
| RichEd | And have you looked through the cookbook ? | 08:32 |
| danielhedblom | yep | 08:35 |
| danielhedblom | i have problem with what should be put into our DHCP server, the documentation only talks about how you config a local DHCP on the ltsp box | 08:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | is it posable to do a minimal install in the chroot, and just install selected packages? (GDM in my case) | 08:42 |
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| danielhedblom | i think the install is pretty minimal as it is | 08:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i can see x being installed | 08:44 |
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| danielhedblom | you need X for gdm | 08:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'd just rather not have the whole lot | 08:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | -core should do | 08:45 |
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| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: My i386 chroot is just under 500mb. | 09:15 |
| cafuego | but that does include 2 kernels, package lists and some stuff in /var/cache/apt | 09:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cafuego, herm. i'll have to check when my restart my ssh connection... seems to have died. | 09:16 |
| cafuego | powerpc is just over 500mb | 09:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Get:241 http://mirror.internode.on.net dapper/main xwd 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 [15.8kB] 53.0kB/s 1s <- and my ssh connection died | 09:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | does that mean i have to redo the install ? :S | 09:20 |
| === cafuego tells Kamping_Kaiser about screen | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | or can i chroot the dir and 'dpkg --configure --pending'? | 09:21 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: I think so | 09:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 09:21 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser hears about screen and says 'another day'... again... | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. i managed to stuff up there :| i have proc mounted into the chroot, but i want to delete it :( | 09:23 |
| cafuego | just umount it | 09:26 |
| cafuego | (from outside the chroot | 09:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i cant :( | 09:27 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser cant reboot the server, its production, and will be in use for another 2-3 hours | ||
| cafuego | Oh, the chroot is in use? | 09:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, the host server is. | 09:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the chroot has proc mounted, somehow, and i can work it out | 09:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | but i have removed mostof the chroot (before it threw up), so i'm not sure whats happening there | 09:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. ssh died again. wonder whats causing it | 09:37 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: Oh, you mounted /proc from with in the chroot,. as opposed to an external bind mount? | 09:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh, iirc... i dont have access to my bash history atm | 09:41 |
| cafuego | Move the old chroot out of the way for the moment and run screen to set up the new one. | 09:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 mount -t proc proc /proc is what i ran | 09:42 |
| cafuego | That ort to do. | 09:42 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah, that's within. I would normally run "sudo mount -o bind /proc /opt/ltsp/i386/proc" | 09:43 |
| cafuego | That way the mounting is done externally to the chroot. | 09:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i might have to look at that next time | 09:43 |
| cafuego | Well, in THEORY if you ran "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 umount /proc" you should be fine, btw. | 09:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cafuego, if i run 'screen' that puts me inside a screen sesion doesnt it? | 09:44 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: yep | 09:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool | 09:44 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: Which means that if ssh dies, you can reconnect and re-attach the screen session. | 09:44 |
| danielhedblom | i need a dhcp.conf from anyone who run dhcp separate from the ltsp server | 09:44 |
| cafuego | danielhedblom: You need "next-server <ip of tftp server>;" | 09:45 |
| danielhedblom | tftp works just fine | 09:45 |
| danielhedblom | its the nfs mounting that barfs | 09:45 |
| cafuego | danielhedblom: root-path | 09:45 |
| danielhedblom | oki | 09:45 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser pokes danielhedblom . damnyou :( i cant get my netbooting even | ||
| cafuego | option root-path "192.168.254.254:/opt/ltsp/i386"; | 09:46 |
| danielhedblom | cufego, thanks | 09:46 |
| cafuego | danielhedblom: I actually just bung that into my pxelinux.cfg/default; append="nfs_root=host:/path" | 09:46 |
| cafuego | Both should work, anyway. | 09:47 |
| danielhedblom | ill try that right away | 09:47 |
| danielhedblom | =) | 09:47 |
| cafuego | www.cafuego.net/stuff/dhcpd.conf | 09:48 |
| danielhedblom | sweeet | 09:50 |
| cafuego | Note that to netboot the macs, you DO need to pass nfs_root=blah:/foo | 09:51 |
| cafuego | they seem to ignore the dhcpd options :-) | 09:51 |
| danielhedblom | trying.... | 09:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yay for apple :) | 09:52 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: Didya see my imac array pic? | 09:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cafuego, no, havent seen them | 09:53 |
| cafuego | www.cafuego.net/stuff/iMacEdubuntuArraySmall.jpg | 09:53 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. nice :) | 09:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i asume 2 macs get mice, and 2 get keyboards? ;) | 09:54 |
| cafuego | That was my setup for SFD; (I had keyboards & mice for all) | 09:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | swoot | 09:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | how much rams in those buggers? | 09:55 |
| cafuego | Oh, you need to run gstreamer-properties for all remote logins and choose 'esound', so that remote sound works. | 09:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | o_0 sound works? | 09:55 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: In between 64 and 512M; they only netboot, so it hardly matters. | 09:56 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: Yup. | 09:56 |
| danielhedblom | strange, i see the rootpath as rootpath: 172.18.5.47:/opt/ltsp/i386 but the bugger still complains about nfsmount: need a path | 09:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cafuego, i'm trying to get some pcs booting, so i was wondering if the 256 they had was good | 09:56 |
| cafuego | danielhedblom: Check the mkinitramfs config; it may be hardcoded in there. If so, use the nfs_root= kernel param (or regenerate the initrd). | 09:57 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: Even 32Mb will probably do just fine. | 09:57 |
| danielhedblom | cafuego: but the path is ok from what i can see | 09:57 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: After all, they only run kernel + ldm | 09:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | will it cache in the 'extra' ram, or just ignore it? | 09:57 |
| cafuego | Kamping_Kaiser: All apps run on the SERVER. | 09:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | herm. ok. sounds like sfa for 256mb of ram | 09:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cafuego, yes, i know about that bit :) | 09:58 |
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| maxamillion | highvoltage: you around? | 10:08 |
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| TeePOG | good morning | 10:14 |
| danielhedblom | morning sir | 10:15 |
| TeePOG | sir? wow, haven't been called sir since i quit teaching | 10:16 |
| TeePOG | :-D | 10:16 |
| cbx33 | TeePOG: you were a teacher | 10:17 |
| danielhedblom | the kids called you sir? posh school? | 10:17 |
| danielhedblom | im glad if they call me old git | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | they do here too | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | danielhedblom: heheh | 10:17 |
| TeePOG | cbx33: teaching student actually... on my first practical i almost comitted murder, so i quit | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | TeePOG: eeek | 10:18 |
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| TeePOG | not gonna take kids' k*k | 10:18 |
| cbx33 | mornin mr pygi | 10:18 |
| TeePOG | i did come out of teaching college with one firm resolution: my kids are being home-schooled... I've never seen as much alcohol and hard drug abuse as in that college | 10:22 |
| TeePOG | those @$$holes aren't teaching my kids, sorry | 10:22 |
| TeePOG | excuse my language | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | TeePOG: where was this? | 10:22 |
| danielhedblom | college isnt a place where i would put my kids | 10:22 |
| danielhedblom | not before i have checked it up thouroghly atleast | 10:22 |
| TeePOG | the college formerly known as NKP... currently University of Pretoria's School for Teachers | 10:22 |
| TeePOG | Groenkloof, Pretoria | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | I see | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 10:22 |
| TeePOG | i don't mean college where kids go... I mean the college where the teachers are trained | 10:22 |
| TeePOG | so you understand my revulsion | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 10:22 |
| cafuego | if you replace hard for soft, it sounds like my uni ;-) | 10:22 |
| danielhedblom | heh, where i live teachers are the ones who are most reluctant to learn anything | 10:22 |
| pygi | morning all | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | Mr pygi !!!!! | 10:23 |
| cbx33 | sorry dude | 10:25 |
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| TeePOG | hi RichEd! | 10:29 |
| TeePOG | hi willvdl | 10:29 |
| pygi | heh cbx33 :P | 10:29 |
| willvdl | hey there | 10:30 |
| willvdl | how's things | 10:30 |
| pygi | hey willvdl | 10:31 |
| willvdl | morning | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | hi willvdl | 10:31 |
| willvdl | hey | 10:32 |
| RichEd | hi ... damn adsl reset <- I need to make a script for that message ! | 10:38 |
| juliux | RichEd, did you try to disconnect your modem manual in the night ? | 10:38 |
| juliux | is the knot3 image als available on a mirror? | 10:38 |
| TeePOG | brb, rebooting | 10:38 |
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| RichEd | juliux: yep ... it moved the daily reset time ... but an unexpected reset a few days later moved the daily reset time back to mid-morning work hours | 10:38 |
| juliux | hm i need 4hourse for the knot3 image | 10:40 |
| RichEd | willvdl: wassup with nepad workshop - did they get back to you ? | 10:40 |
| willvdl | sort of. very funny | 10:41 |
| RichEd | juliux: are you going to be at the meeting today ? | 10:41 |
| RichEd | willvdl: explain the humour ? | 10:41 |
| juliux | RichEd, you mean the weekly one? | 10:42 |
| RichEd | yep ... 12:00 UTC today | 10:42 |
| juliux | RichEd, i will try it | 10:43 |
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| TeePOG | hi hi | 10:45 |
| pygi | cbx33: muahaha, last bug fix commited ;) | 10:47 |
| cbx33 | eh? | 10:47 |
| RichEd | juliux: I'll try to get that country questions to you soon ... we can maybe do an email response and a quick sidebar discussion before the meeting | 10:48 |
| juliux | ok | 10:48 |
| pygi | cbx33: the last standing bug for libburn release is squashed ;) | 10:49 |
| RichEd | fr today, I just want to identify topics & sections in general | 10:49 |
| juliux | RichEd, sounds good | 10:49 |
| TeePOG | i just nearly crapped myself... VMWare Player didn't work after the kernel update... then I remembered the vmmon modules are compiled per kernel ^.^ | 10:55 |
| cbx33 | pygi: excellent | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | TeePOG: heheh | 10:57 |
| TeePOG | the thing is, this specific VM is a Doze machine running our cafe management s/w | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | yuk :p | 10:58 |
| TeePOG | so it's critical... luckily, it's easy to backup... just cp the whole directory containing the VM files to another HD | 10:59 |
| cbx33 | indeed | 10:59 |
| juliux | RichEd, you have an e-mail ;) | 11:04 |
| RichEd | great :) | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | willvdl: email looks good | 11:08 |
| willvdl | cool. need to flesh out some obvious bits | 11:09 |
| cbx33 | ping Amaranth | 11:10 |
| willvdl | This afternoon I'll drop a mail to ubuntu-marketing for comment | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | cool | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | willvdl: the ESA wiki page is old | 11:11 |
| cbx33 | the actual doc is in the doc team repo | 11:11 |
| willvdl | ah. link? | 11:11 |
| cbx33 | hang on | 11:11 |
| cbx33 | http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html | 11:12 |
| willvdl | thanks. doh, I had been through that actually :) | 11:13 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 11:13 |
| willvdl | this is for 6.10 | 11:13 |
| cbx33 | please link to that one | 11:13 |
| willvdl | 6.06 is then the ESA wiki page? | 11:13 |
| cbx33 | the only thing left on that pother page are my mock ups for the printed version | 11:13 |
| cbx33 | no that http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html is the 6.06 page | 11:14 |
| cbx33 | 6.10 hasn't been written yet | 11:14 |
| willvdl | abstract refers to 6.10 | 11:14 |
| willvdl | so we can (almost) completely revamp the ESA page? | 11:17 |
| cbx33 | oh | 11:17 |
| cbx33 | yes | 11:17 |
| cbx33 | totally | 11:17 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 11:17 |
| willvdl | brillo. can use it as a central depot | 11:18 |
| TeePOG | i cannot remember if I asked this before... are there any plans to backport Sabayon to dapper? | 11:43 |
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| cbx33 | ogra: hi | 12:18 |
| TeePOG | hi ogra | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | ogra: did you get some bad feedback for artwork? | 12:25 |
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| cbx33 | brb | 12:39 |
| RichEd | ping will | 12:40 |
| RichEd | willvdl: ping | 12:40 |
| willvdl | pong -> sidebar? | 12:43 |
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| RichEd | jsgotangco: boing | 12:59 |
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| jsgotangco | RichEd: hi! | 01:05 |
| RichEd | hi jsgotangco : msg in 2 | 01:06 |
| jsgotangco | okay | 01:07 |
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| pygi | jsgotangco: !!! | 01:11 |
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| jsgotangco | hi!!! | 01:18 |
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| ogra | cbx33, the usplash needs to be fixed and should be a bit less saturated ... also we need to make the png smaller, a 2MB pic isnt really helpful via nfs on an ltsp client | 01:21 |
| ogra | according to matts mail beta freeze is tomorrow :/ | 01:22 |
| ogra | i somehow thought it was the 28th, but thats beta *release* actually | 01:22 |
| ogra | i'm also not yet soure what to do about gdm | 01:23 |
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| airjump | hello | 01:31 |
| juliux | hi airjump | 01:35 |
| airjump | hi | 01:36 |
| airjump | hello ? | 01:40 |
| RichEd | ? olleh | 01:41 |
| airjump | sorry my intenet account is end bye | 01:42 |
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| rodarvus | Edubuntu meeting in 5 minutes, right? | 01:56 |
| rodarvus | (four minutes now :) ) | 01:56 |
| juliux | i think so | 01:56 |
| jono | rodarvus, yep | 01:56 |
| jono | unfortunatly I can't make it | 01:56 |
| pips1 | jono: booo | 01:57 |
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| pips1 | ;-) | 01:57 |
| danielhedblom | hi there | 01:57 |
| jono | pips1, :P | 01:57 |
| pips1 | hi danielhedblom | 01:57 |
| rodarvus | jono, you're not the only one | 01:57 |
| danielhedblom | why does this not work? | 01:58 |
| danielhedblom | next-server 172.18.5.47; | 01:58 |
| danielhedblom | option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; | 01:58 |
| danielhedblom | filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0"; | 01:58 |
| rodarvus | ogra & I are likely to not be able to attend it much too | 01:58 |
| pips1 | rodarvus: :-( | 01:58 |
| danielhedblom | next server should be enough for tftp boot right? | 01:58 |
| ogra | ist not needed if the server is the same as the dhcp server in ubuntu | 01:58 |
| ogra | is that edgy ? | 01:59 |
| rodarvus | pips1, beta freeze is tomorrow + I have other unrelated stuff needing real care :/ | 01:59 |
| pips1 | ic | 01:59 |
| pips1 | ogra, will you be able to give a quick update? | 02:00 |
| === RichEd would like ogra to do a quick update : ltsp & tech ... | ||
| ogra | five lines or so probably | 02:00 |
| === RichEd ask really nicely | ||
| RichEd | thanks | 02:00 |
| RichEd | --- edubuntu meeting #ubuntu-meeting ------ NOW ---- | 02:01 |
| danielhedblom | ogra, the DHCP is out of my control and on another server | 02:02 |
| danielhedblom | the server im running ltsp on is an edubuntu 5.10 | 02:07 |
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| TeePOG | is the meeting closed? who's invited? | 02:15 |
| pips1 | TeePOG: no, it's is open for everyone, join us at #ubuntu-meeting | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | ogra: I'm here now | 02:20 |
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| pips1 | cbx33: we are in the meeting.. | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | oh shute | 02:21 |
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| danielhedblom | hello | 03:02 |
| TeePOG | hi danielhedblom | 03:07 |
| danielhedblom | i cant for my life get ltsp on edubuntu working | 03:10 |
| danielhedblom | this is the current dhcp setup: | 03:10 |
| danielhedblom | next-server 172.18.5.47; | 03:10 |
| danielhedblom | option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; | 03:11 |
| danielhedblom | filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0"; | 03:11 |
| danielhedblom | at one place ive read that option root-path should be "172.18.5.47:/opt/ltsp/i386/ and on another it says edubuntu only can handle "/opt/ltsp/i386" | 03:12 |
| danielhedblom | for me tftp works with the first one but nfs mount fails and busybox is what i get | 03:13 |
| danielhedblom | with the latter option tftp dont work | 03:14 |
| danielhedblom | the dhcp server is a borderware server | 03:15 |
| highvoltage | borderware? | 03:17 |
| danielhedblom | the error i see when booting is ARP timeout | 03:17 |
| danielhedblom | ahh, no its a regular Linuxbox, the firewall is borderware | 03:17 |
| highvoltage | is the firewall blocking any ports? | 03:18 |
| danielhedblom | well, dhcp works just fine, its just that there seams to be a conflict with what tftp needs and what is needed for nfs to mount properly | 03:18 |
| danielhedblom | i sadly dont have the option of running my own dhcp | 03:19 |
| highvoltage | danielhedblom: is port 111 open on the firewall (see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspPorts ) | 03:22 |
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| highvoltage | RichEd: wb | 03:25 |
| danielhedblom | highvoltage: its free highway from client to server | 03:26 |
| highvoltage | danielhedblom: I've seen this at a school earlier this week, with a gigabit connection between the server and switch, this happened. with 100mbps, it worked fine. | 03:28 |
| highvoltage | are you also using a gbit connection between server and switch by any chance? | 03:28 |
| danielhedblom | well, i think it is | 03:29 |
| highvoltage | can you check what happens with a 100mbps connection? | 03:29 |
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| danielhedblom | highvoltage: i will have to do it off hours | 03:30 |
| highvoltage | ah | 03:30 |
| danielhedblom | very longshot bug =) | 03:31 |
| knixtech | morning | 03:31 |
| highvoltage | very indeed. although I've come across it monday, and couldn't find another explanation :( | 03:31 |
| danielhedblom | i have 90 clients on this box so 100mbit/s will be a tad narrow but ill try it | 03:32 |
| ogra | ARP timeouts are definately a network prob ... not a software one | 03:34 |
| danielhedblom | ogra, the thing is, i can get pxe going if i alter the option root-path setting | 03:34 |
| ogra | root-path has nothing to do with PXE ... | 03:35 |
| ogra | only with NFS | 03:35 |
| danielhedblom | i know, thats what puzzles me | 03:36 |
| danielhedblom | should next-server 172.18.5.47; be outside the subnet range ? | 03:38 |
| danielhedblom | that is, not inside range 172.18.5.50 172.18.5.200; | 03:42 |
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| TeePOG | wb Kamping_Kaiser | 05:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ty TeePOG | 05:15 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser hugs TeePOG | ||
| TeePOG | eeep! i hope it's a hearty beer-fuelled German hug and not a lavender-smelling French hug with an ass-grab | 05:17 |
| TeePOG | *efg* | 05:17 |
| willvdl | No Frenchman smells of lavender... | 05:17 |
| TeePOG | arrrrr, manly things, arrrrr | 05:17 |
| TeePOG | true willvdl... showers are unheard of there | 05:18 |
| TeePOG | so many racial slurs, so little time :-D | 05:18 |
| TeePOG | but seriously Kamping_Kaiser... what's with the hugging anyway? | 05:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | <TeePOG> eeep! i hope it's a hearty beer-fuelled German hug <-, yes it is ... or as close as a full-of-beer aussie-of-german-desent can get | 05:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | TeePOG, i'm in a hugging mood | 05:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and you spoke to me :) | 05:19 |
| TeePOG | ahhhhh, so you're descended from German marauders arrested in the English countryside and sent packing to Oz on the next prison ship... | 05:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rofl | 05:20 |
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| TeePOG | good grief, if everyone I spoke to hugged me, I'd have like 27 VDs in 2 days | 05:20 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | VDs? | 05:20 |
| TeePOG | hi nixternal, Electro | 05:20 |
| TeePOG | VDs = Venereal Diseases | 05:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | o_0 | 05:21 |
| TeePOG | i'd catch crabs and work up from there | 05:21 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser wasnt hugging you there o_0 | ||
| Electro | I've got a problem with my updates, it always get them from an australian server, not from a local european server | 05:22 |
| === TeePOG sighs... nobody ever wants to hug me there :-( | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol Electro :) | 05:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sounds like you want to change your sources.list :) | 05:22 |
| TeePOG | what does your sources.list say? | 05:22 |
| Electro | where is it | 05:22 |
| TeePOG | Kamping_Kaiser: SNAP | 05:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | TeePOG, :) | 05:22 |
| TeePOG | /etc/apt/sources.list | 05:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Electro, /etc/apt/sources.list, or if its chrooted, its in /opt/ltsp/ | 05:22 |
| nixternal | hiya TeePOG | 05:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | $arch/$path | 05:23 |
| Electro | does it also work for synaptic | 05:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi nixternal | 05:23 |
| TeePOG | damn, i tried to use tab-completion on the command-line... inside xchat *^.^* | 05:23 |
| nixternal | hiya Kamping_Kaiser ;) | 05:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yep | 05:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | TeePOG, :D | 05:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi nixternal :) *hugs* | 05:23 |
| Electro | deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted | 05:26 |
| Electro | deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted | 05:26 |
| Electro | does THAT help | 05:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Electro, what country are you in? | 05:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | change au to the iso code for your country | 05:26 |
| Electro | bosnia, but I know perfect english | 05:26 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser doesnt see how its relevent | ||
| Electro | so which iso code | 05:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Electro, just use de instead of au | 05:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not exactly your country, but close enough | 05:27 |
| Electro | can I use ba | 05:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try it | 05:28 |
| TeePOG | back | 05:28 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | wb | 05:29 |
| TeePOG | personally, i'd just take out the au. whatever and use the main servers... unless your isp has a mirror, in which case you use their address | 05:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the main servers also do gb, so they are kinda loaded | 05:29 |
| TeePOG | what about nl? | 05:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | using anything but helps keep them alive | 05:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | would be ok | 05:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | (not sure where its hosted actually) | 05:30 |
| Electro | ba works | 05:30 |
| Electro | thank heavens | 05:31 |
| Electro | this speeded stuff up lots | 05:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 05:32 |
| Electro | the thing was that I reinstalled edubuntu after a fiasco with Roaring Penguin | 05:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | nwo you wont slow my dist-upgrades down :D | 05:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *now | 05:32 |
| Electro | in hopes of getting a graphical approach to internet connections like in WinXP | 05:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what did you want? | 05:33 |
| Electro | you know, like in WinXP, the connection is displayed with the notifications | 05:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, yeh. | 05:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | if thats what your into, ok ;) | 05:34 |
| Electro | so I was searching and got that, but it messed up my connections and I couldn't get rid of it because it was alien-ed | 05:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 05:35 |
| Electro | what is the terminal command to delete a file | 05:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | aliend debs are suppoesd tob e removedable | 05:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rm | 05:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | -r for recursive, -f for force | 05:35 |
| Electro | Can Java work on Edubuntu | 05:36 |
| Electro | the Runtime Environment | 05:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | um. / i asume / so | 05:36 |
| Electro | the Roaring Penguin package was in Synaptic but it got only "removed" and it didn't actually get deleted so I got sick of it and grabbed my live-cd and booted it to reinstall edubuntu | 05:38 |
| Electro | what a nightmare | 05:38 |
| Electro | thanks for the help with the sources | 05:39 |
| Electro | I was crawling at 10 kilobytes | 05:39 |
| Electro | now I'm going 30 kbytes and speedily get my update done in an hour | 05:39 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | cool. :) | 05:42 |
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| LaserJock | hi pygi | 06:21 |
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| pygi | hi LaserJock, how is you? | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | fine | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | just getting into work | 06:24 |
| pygi | LaserJock: nice :) | 06:25 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 06:40 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 06:40 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: no roof? | 07:10 |
| ogra | yep | 07:10 |
| ogra | they are setting up the solar heating | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | oh | 07:11 |
| ogra | so they disassembled the complete roof | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | I thought maybe the wind blew it off | 07:11 |
| ogra | heh, no | 07:11 |
| ogra | then i would rant more | 07:11 |
| ogra | :) | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | you seemed awefully calm ;-) | 07:12 |
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| juliux | can somebody confirm that the bittorrent download from the knot3 edubuntu install cd isnt working? | 07:36 |
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| highvoltage | hey maxamillion | 08:07 |
| maxamillion | hello | 08:07 |
| maxamillion | i was just about to /msg you :) | 08:07 |
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| paolob | Hi ogra! Do you remember the patch to gnome-power-manager? Could you prepare the corresponding deb? | 08:33 |
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| Petaris | hrm | 09:04 |
| Petaris | the AD auth on my ltsp server seems to dislike certain users | 09:04 |
| Petaris | it just doesn't let them login | 09:04 |
| Petaris | its odd | 09:04 |
| Petaris | usually resetting their password fixes it | 09:05 |
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| Petaris | there also seems to be a delay after changing the password before they can login | 09:05 |
| Petaris | sometimes it wont let them login unless the client is restarted | 09:06 |
| Petaris | its odd | 09:06 |
| === highvoltage has never used AD on Linux before | ||
| Petaris | highvoltage: consider yourself lucky | 09:06 |
| highvoltage | :) | 09:06 |
| Burgwork | Petaris, could you write up a doc on how to hook up Edubuntu to AD? | 09:14 |
| Petaris | Burgwork: not too much to write, the software pretty much took care of it | 09:26 |
| Petaris | I used sadms (http://sadms.sourceforge.net) | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | I don't even know what active directory is | 09:27 |
| Petaris | It is very similar to waht ajmitch was working on I think | 09:27 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, you are more sane for it | 09:27 |
| Petaris | LaserJock: sometimes ignorance is bliss | 09:27 |
| LaserJock | I kinda caught the idea from context | 09:27 |
| Petaris | Burgwork: There was pretty good documentation from sadms (not that you need much to figure it out) | 09:28 |
| Petaris | and I am using LinNeighborhood to map to the shares for their homes | 09:28 |
| Petaris | I would like to find a solution that does it automagically using the users AD profile settings | 09:29 |
| Petaris | but I'm not sure how to proceed there | 09:29 |
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| Petaris | Is there anyone else here doing AD authentication? | 09:40 |
| Petaris | time to go | 09:48 |
| Petaris | later all | 09:48 |
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| pygi | hello everyone | 10:27 |
| progers | hi | 10:31 |
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| bddebian | Heya pygi | 11:17 |
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| JJF | hi guys | 11:40 |
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| cbx33 | Hi | 11:41 |
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| JJF | hi cbx | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | listen I'm really sorry I'm late in tonight, ogra I'll understand if you're ticked at me.... | 11:41 |
| Burgwork | cbx33, umm? | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | my main machine blew up....I've managed to get a new proc/mobo/graphics for it, but I'm still setting it up.... | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | this has been a BAD evening | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | everyone here is walking round with freakin black clouds over their heads | 11:42 |
| paolob-parroquia | hi ogra! Is the patched (no hibernation) gnome-power-manager package available for download somewhere? | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | my wife is ticked at her machine cos it's screwing up, my brother inlaw is having other PC related issues | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | ogra: will tomorrow be ok for those patche or does it have to be today? | 11:43 |
| cbx33 | Burgwork: I have some changes to make to some packages, my PC has been causing me severe headaches | 11:43 |
| ogra | cbx33, ask mdz, i cant thing anymore 45h awake and 7000km traveled in ths time | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | ogra: ok dude, I'm sorry | 11:44 |
| === ogra stil pkes around to get at least something that looks similar in the artwokr | ||
| cbx33 | did we get an answer on the crushed idea? | 11:45 |
| ogra | i have a whole bunch of artwork fixes in, but its not complete yet | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | what do you need from me? | 11:45 |
| ogra | i thought you would test it ... didnt know about your PC | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | ogra: yeh me neither.....came home....almost cried | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | couldn't have come at a worse time | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | X doesn't work on my new PC yet....something about it thinking my new nvidia card is an ATI | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | we had the vets too | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | I couldn't getr here | 11:47 |
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| knixtech | hey guys wassssup | 11:50 |
| knixtech | quick ? for yas | 11:50 |
| knixtech | Checking php.ini: include_path contain .: ini_get('include_path')='/usr/share/php' | 11:51 |
| knixtech | include_path need to contain "." - the current directory | 11:51 |
| knixtech | how do i fix this? | 11:51 |
| cbx33 | I can't get hold of mdz at all | 11:52 |
| pygi | hey cbx33 | 11:54 |
| cbx33 | :( hi pygi | 11:54 |
| pygi | what is it cbx33 ? :-/ | 11:54 |
| cbx33 | as you can see today hasn't gone well | 11:54 |
| cbx33 | right well, seeing as I can't get hold of the people I need to, I'm going to have to do the work tomorrow, at work, I'm really sorry for letting you all down....good night | 11:55 |
| pygi | I haven't seen nothing above. EH, bad for me too. I did everything bad :( | 11:55 |
| pygi | night cbx33 | 11:55 |
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| pygi | cbx33: sorry, sec | 11:57 |
| cbx33 | heh np | 11:57 |
| mdz | he didn't try very hard | 12:09 |
| pygi | mdz: ? | 12:11 |
| mdz | cbx33 pinged me while I was eating lunch, waited 15 minutes and then disconnected | 12:12 |
| pygi | mdz: ah, he had to go to sleep | 12:12 |
| pygi | he said he'll get up at 5:00 AM /not sure what TZ tho :P | 12:13 |
| mdz | BST according to Launchpad | 12:14 |
| mdz | anyway he didn't say what it was he wanted from me | 12:14 |
| pygi | mdz: about some changes he must do | 12:14 |
| mdz | sounds like he was having some difficulty with his machine | 12:14 |
| pygi | mdz: that as well :) his nvidia being recognized as ati, but he had to do some changes to *something* (SCP and ?) | 12:15 |
| pygi | probably thats why | 12:15 |
| pygi | and tommorow being frezee... | 12:15 |
| mdz | he didn't send me email, so there isn't much hope of him getting in touch with me until his evening tomorrow. oh well. | 12:16 |
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