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DEINOSim back12:53
DEINOSedubuntu suport rpm pakages ?12:54
DEINOSguis12:54
DEINOSedubuntu suport rpm pakages ?12:54
DEINOSedubuntu suport rpm pakages ?12:55
danielhedblomDEINOS: most rpm packages will work if you convert them with alien first12:57
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DEINOSok 12:57
crimsunit's highly recommended to use native debs from Canonical repositories 12:58
crimsuns/recommended/preferred/12:58
DEINOStar xjvf skype-version.tar.bz201:03
DEINOSthis syntax is correct ?01:03
crimsunyes01:03
crimsunyou can also just drop the "jf"01:03
crimsuntar "knows" whether to use bunzip2 or gunzip01:04
DEINOStar xv skype-version.tar.bz201:04
crimsunerr01:04
crimsunjv, rather01:04
crimsunjust use xf01:04
DEINOShum01:04
DEINOSwhat is qt 3.2 ?01:05
DEINOSdo u know ?01:05
crimsunwhat about it?01:11
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maxamillionhighvoltage: you around?01:15
maxamilliondarn ... :/01:18
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knixtechhello friends02:03
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bddebianHOwdy03:11
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LaserJockhi Amaranth 04:37
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Amaranthhey04:42
Amaranthjust got my computer working again04:42
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LaserJockheh04:48
LaserJockAmaranth: how's willowng going?04:48
AmaranthLaserJock: It's not right now, I just spent the last 2 days getting my computer working again so I could work on my project for school04:50
knixtechnight all04:56
LaserJockAmaranth: ah yeah, I know the feeling04:59
LaserJockI spent like 3 days trying to get my computer upgraded to edgy04:59
LaserJockincluding several drive wipes04:59
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Jones_Where can I get edubuntu graphics?05:29
Jones_particularly the graphic involving a chalk board/classroom05:29
LaserJockedubuntu-artwork05:29
Jones_thanks05:36
Jones_LaserJock: How do I make my brush in gimp bigger?05:38
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cbx33mornin all07:44
Kamping_Kaisergday :)07:45
cbx33Hi Kamping_Kaiser 07:45
Kamping_Kaiserany thougthts on this: use my laptop as an ltsp server, or build a dapper chroot to build it in on my edgy desktop? 07:46
Kamping_Kaisercos ltsp in edgy is t3h broken atm07:46
cbx33hmm07:47
cbx33i used a lappie for ltsp07:47
cbx33had 9 clients running off it07:47
cbx33was a dell d600 so not hugely powerful07:47
Kamping_Kaisercool :)07:47
Kamping_Kaiseri'm trying to get it going for work, but trialing at home07:47
=== Kamping_Kaiser grrs. ltsp-build-client wont accept a proxy argument :( hope it uses the apt-proxy
Kamping_Kaiserer, apt.conf07:48
cbx33Kamping_Kaiser, you should be able to type 07:49
cbx33export http_proxy=http://.......................07:50
cbx33before running it...07:50
cbx33that'll get passed to every subshell down the line07:50
Kamping_Kaisercooooool. could i do that system wide in /etc/bash ?07:51
cbx33yes07:53
Kamping_Kaiseryay!07:54
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cbx33oh dear07:55
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cbx33wb Burgwork 07:56
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danielhedblomwhen i start my thin client i get this message and are the dropped into busybox "nfsmount: need a path"08:09
Kamping_Kaiserdanielhedblom, wish i could help, but i'm having a battle with ltsp myself :)08:12
danielhedblomthanks anyway :D08:13
Kamping_Kaiseraw :( dapper ltsp doesnt have --debug08:15
Kamping_Kaisersorry :|08:15
Kamping_Kaisercbx33, i used the http-proxy thing and ltsp-build-client wouldnt download anythign :|08:16
danielhedblomis there any documentation on the edubuntu ltsp implementation or is it really a stock ltsp install?08:18
=== Kamping_Kaiser isnt sure. just started playing. others might get active again soon though
RichEddanielhedblom: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation08:20
RichEdlook for the LTSP items on that page08:20
cbx33Hi guys08:22
cbx33I'll be back soon08:22
cbx33I'll try to help y'all out then ;)08:22
Kamping_Kaiserlater mate :)08:22
danielhedblomRichEd: i have read all of it but to be frank, it is a bit thin08:31
danielhedblom;D08:31
RichEdAnd have you looked through the cookbook ?08:32
danielhedblomyep08:35
danielhedblomi have problem with what should be put into our DHCP server, the documentation only talks about how you config a local DHCP on the ltsp box08:36
Kamping_Kaiseris it posable to do a minimal install in the chroot, and just install selected packages? (GDM in my case)08:42
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danielhedblomi think the install is pretty minimal as it is08:43
Kamping_Kaiseri can see x being installed08:44
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danielhedblomyou need X for gdm08:44
Kamping_Kaiseri'd just rather not have the whole lot08:45
Kamping_Kaiser-core should do08:45
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cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: My i386 chroot is just under 500mb.09:15
cafuegobut that does include 2 kernels, package lists and some stuff in /var/cache/apt09:16
Kamping_Kaisercafuego, herm. i'll have to check when my restart my ssh connection... seems to have died.09:16
cafuegopowerpc is just over 500mb09:16
Kamping_KaiserGet:241 http://mirror.internode.on.net dapper/main xwd 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 [15.8kB]     53.0kB/s 1s  <- and my ssh connection died09:17
Kamping_Kaiserdoes that mean i have to redo the install ? :S09:20
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Kamping_Kaiseror can i chroot the dir and 'dpkg --configure --pending'?09:21
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: I think so09:21
Kamping_Kaiser:(09:21
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Kamping_Kaiserhm. i managed to stuff up there :| i have proc mounted into the chroot, but i want to delete it :(09:23
cafuegojust umount it09:26
cafuego(from outside the chroot09:26
Kamping_Kaiseri cant :(09:27
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cafuegoOh, the chroot is in use?09:34
Kamping_Kaiserno, the host server is.09:36
Kamping_Kaiserthe chroot has proc mounted, somehow, and i can work it out09:36
Kamping_Kaiserbut i have removed mostof the chroot (before it threw up), so i'm not sure whats happening there09:36
Kamping_Kaiserhm. ssh died again. wonder whats causing it09:37
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: Oh, you mounted /proc from with in the chroot,. as opposed to an external bind mount?09:39
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, iirc... i dont have access to my bash history atm09:41
cafuegoMove the old chroot out of the way for the moment and run screen to set up the new one.09:42
Kamping_Kaisersudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 mount -t proc proc /proc is what i ran09:42
cafuegoThat ort to do.09:42
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: Yeah, that's within. I would normally run "sudo mount -o bind /proc /opt/ltsp/i386/proc"09:43
cafuegoThat way the mounting is done externally to the chroot.09:43
Kamping_Kaiseri might have to look at that next time09:43
cafuegoWell, in THEORY if you ran "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 umount /proc" you should be fine, btw.09:44
Kamping_Kaisercafuego, if i run 'screen' that puts me inside a screen sesion doesnt it?09:44
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: yep09:44
Kamping_Kaisercool09:44
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: Which means that if ssh dies, you can reconnect and re-attach the screen session.09:44
danielhedblomi need a dhcp.conf from anyone who run dhcp separate from the ltsp server09:44
cafuegodanielhedblom: You need "next-server <ip of tftp server>;"09:45
danielhedblomtftp works just fine09:45
danielhedblomits the nfs mounting that barfs09:45
cafuegodanielhedblom: root-path09:45
danielhedblomoki09:45
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cafuegooption root-path "192.168.254.254:/opt/ltsp/i386";09:46
danielhedblomcufego, thanks09:46
cafuegodanielhedblom: I actually just bung that into my pxelinux.cfg/default; append="nfs_root=host:/path"09:46
cafuegoBoth should work, anyway.09:47
danielhedblomill try that right away09:47
danielhedblom=)09:47
cafuegowww.cafuego.net/stuff/dhcpd.conf09:48
danielhedblomsweeet09:50
cafuegoNote that to netboot the macs, you DO need to pass nfs_root=blah:/foo09:51
cafuegothey seem to ignore the dhcpd options :-)09:51
danielhedblomtrying....09:52
Kamping_Kaiseryay for apple :)09:52
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: Didya see my imac array pic?09:52
Kamping_Kaisercafuego, no, havent seen them09:53
cafuegowww.cafuego.net/stuff/iMacEdubuntuArraySmall.jpg09:53
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Kamping_Kaiserlol. nice :)09:54
Kamping_Kaiseri asume 2 macs get mice, and 2 get keyboards? ;)09:54
cafuegoThat was my setup for SFD; (I had keyboards & mice for all)09:54
Kamping_Kaiserswoot09:55
Kamping_Kaiserhow much rams in those buggers?09:55
cafuegoOh, you need to run gstreamer-properties for all remote logins and choose 'esound', so that remote sound works.09:55
Kamping_Kaisero_0 sound works? 09:55
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: In between 64 and 512M; they only netboot, so it hardly matters.09:56
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: Yup.09:56
danielhedblomstrange, i see the rootpath as rootpath: 172.18.5.47:/opt/ltsp/i386 but the bugger still complains about nfsmount: need a path09:56
Kamping_Kaisercafuego, i'm trying to get some pcs booting, so i was wondering if the 256 they had was good09:56
cafuegodanielhedblom: Check the mkinitramfs config; it may be hardcoded in there. If so, use the nfs_root= kernel param (or regenerate the initrd).09:57
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: Even 32Mb will probably do just fine.09:57
danielhedblomcafuego: but the path is ok from what i can see09:57
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: After all, they only run kernel + ldm09:57
Kamping_Kaiserwill it cache in the 'extra' ram, or just ignore it?09:57
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: All apps run on the SERVER.09:58
Kamping_Kaiserherm. ok. sounds like sfa for 256mb of ram09:58
Kamping_Kaisercafuego, yes, i know about that bit :)09:58
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maxamillionhighvoltage: you around?10:08
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TeePOGgood morning10:14
danielhedblommorning sir10:15
TeePOGsir? wow, haven't been called sir since i quit teaching10:16
TeePOG:-D10:16
cbx33TeePOG: you were a teacher10:17
danielhedblomthe kids called you sir? posh school?10:17
danielhedblomim glad if they call me old git10:17
cbx33they do here too10:17
cbx33danielhedblom: heheh10:17
TeePOGcbx33: teaching student actually... on my first practical i almost comitted murder, so i quit10:17
cbx33TeePOG: eeek10:18
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TeePOGnot gonna take kids' k*k10:18
cbx33mornin mr pygi 10:18
TeePOGi did come out of teaching college with one firm resolution: my kids are being home-schooled... I've never seen as much alcohol and hard drug abuse as in that college10:22
TeePOGthose @$$holes aren't teaching my kids, sorry10:22
TeePOGexcuse my language10:22
cbx33TeePOG: where was this?10:22
danielhedblomcollege isnt a place where i would put my kids10:22
danielhedblomnot before i have checked it up thouroghly atleast10:22
TeePOGthe college formerly known as NKP... currently University of Pretoria's School for Teachers10:22
TeePOGGroenkloof, Pretoria10:22
cbx33I see10:22
cbx33;)10:22
TeePOGi don't mean college where kids go... I mean the college where the teachers are trained10:22
TeePOGso you understand my revulsion10:22
cbx33yeh10:22
cafuegoif you replace hard for soft, it sounds like my uni ;-)10:22
danielhedblomheh, where i live teachers are the ones who are most reluctant to learn anything10:22
pygimorning all10:22
cbx33Mr pygi !!!!!10:23
cbx33sorry dude10:25
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TeePOGhi RichEd!10:29
TeePOGhi willvdl10:29
pygiheh cbx33 :P10:29
willvdlhey there10:30
willvdlhow's things10:30
pygihey willvdl 10:31
willvdlmorning10:31
cbx33hi willvdl 10:31
willvdlhey10:32
RichEdhi ... damn adsl reset <- I need to make a script for that message !10:38
juliuxRichEd, did you try to disconnect your modem manual in the night ?10:38
juliuxis the knot3 image als available on a mirror? 10:38
TeePOGbrb, rebooting10:38
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RichEdjuliux: yep ... it moved the daily reset time ... but an unexpected reset a few days later moved the daily reset time back to mid-morning work hours10:38
juliuxhm i need 4hourse for the knot3 image10:40
RichEdwillvdl: wassup with nepad workshop - did they get back to you ?10:40
willvdlsort of. very funny10:41
RichEdjuliux: are you going to be at the meeting today ?10:41
RichEdwillvdl: explain the humour ?10:41
juliuxRichEd, you mean the weekly one?10:42
RichEdyep ... 12:00 UTC today10:42
juliuxRichEd, i will try it10:43
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TeePOGhi hi10:45
pygicbx33: muahaha, last bug fix commited ;)10:47
cbx33eh?10:47
RichEdjuliux: I'll try to get that country questions to you soon ... we can maybe do an email response and a quick sidebar discussion before the meeting10:48
juliuxok10:48
pygicbx33: the last standing bug for libburn release is squashed ;)10:49
RichEdfr today, I just want to identify topics & sections in general10:49
juliuxRichEd, sounds good10:49
TeePOGi just nearly crapped myself... VMWare Player didn't work after the kernel update... then I remembered the vmmon modules are compiled per kernel ^.^10:55
cbx33pygi: excellent10:57
cbx33TeePOG: heheh10:57
TeePOGthe thing is, this specific VM is a Doze machine running our cafe management s/w10:57
cbx33yuk :p10:58
TeePOGso it's critical... luckily, it's easy to backup... just cp the whole directory containing the VM files to another HD10:59
cbx33indeed10:59
juliuxRichEd, you have an e-mail ;)11:04
RichEdgreat :)11:07
cbx33willvdl: email looks good11:08
willvdlcool. need to flesh out some obvious bits11:09
cbx33ping Amaranth 11:10
willvdlThis afternoon I'll drop a mail to ubuntu-marketing for comment11:10
cbx33cool11:10
cbx33willvdl: the ESA wiki page is old11:11
cbx33the actual doc is in the doc team repo11:11
willvdlah. link?11:11
cbx33hang on11:11
cbx33http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html11:12
willvdlthanks. doh, I had been through that actually :)11:13
cbx33;)11:13
willvdlthis is for 6.1011:13
cbx33please link to that one11:13
willvdl6.06 is then the ESA wiki page?11:13
cbx33the only thing left on that pother page are my mock ups for the printed version11:13
cbx33no that http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html is the 6.06 page11:14
cbx336.10 hasn't been written yet11:14
willvdlabstract refers to 6.1011:14
willvdlso we can (almost) completely revamp the ESA page?11:17
cbx33oh11:17
cbx33yes11:17
cbx33totally11:17
cbx33;)11:17
willvdlbrillo. can use it as a central depot11:18
TeePOGi cannot remember if I asked this before... are there any plans to backport Sabayon to dapper?11:43
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cbx33ogra: hi12:18
TeePOGhi ogra12:22
cbx33ogra: did you get some bad feedback for artwork?12:25
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cbx33brb12:39
RichEdping will12:40
RichEdwillvdl: ping12:40
willvdlpong -> sidebar?12:43
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RichEdjsgotangco: boing12:59
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jsgotangcoRichEd: hi!01:05
RichEdhi jsgotangco : msg in 201:06
jsgotangcookay01:07
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pygijsgotangco: !!!01:11
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jsgotangcohi!!!01:18
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ogracbx33, the usplash needs to be fixed and should be a bit less saturated ... also we need to make the png smaller, a 2MB pic isnt really helpful via nfs on an ltsp client 01:21
ograaccording to matts mail beta freeze is tomorrow :/01:22
ograi somehow thought it was the 28th, but thats beta *release* actually01:22
ograi'm also not yet soure what to do about gdm01:23
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airjumphello01:31
juliuxhi airjump 01:35
airjumphi01:36
airjumphello ?01:40
RichEd? olleh01:41
airjumpsorry my intenet account is end bye01:42
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rodarvusEdubuntu meeting in 5 minutes, right?01:56
rodarvus(four minutes now :) )01:56
juliuxi think so01:56
jonorodarvus, yep01:56
jonounfortunatly I can't make it01:56
pips1jono: booo01:57
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pips1;-)01:57
danielhedblomhi there01:57
jonopips1, :P01:57
pips1hi danielhedblom01:57
rodarvusjono, you're not the only one01:57
danielhedblomwhy does this not work?01:58
danielhedblom next-server 172.18.5.47;01:58
danielhedblom option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";01:58
danielhedblom filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";01:58
rodarvusogra & I are likely to not be able to attend it much too01:58
pips1rodarvus: :-(01:58
danielhedblomnext server should be enough for tftp boot right?01:58
ograist not needed if the server is the same as the dhcp server in ubuntu01:58
ograis that edgy ? 01:59
rodarvuspips1, beta freeze is tomorrow + I have other unrelated stuff needing real care :/01:59
pips1ic01:59
pips1ogra, will you be able to give a quick update?02:00
=== RichEd would like ogra to do a quick update : ltsp & tech ...
ografive lines or so probably02:00
=== RichEd ask really nicely
RichEdthanks02:00
RichEd--- edubuntu meeting #ubuntu-meeting ------ NOW ----02:01
danielhedblomogra, the DHCP is out of my control and on another server02:02
danielhedblomthe server im running ltsp on is an edubuntu 5.1002:07
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TeePOGis the meeting closed? who's invited?02:15
pips1TeePOG: no, it's is open for everyone, join us at #ubuntu-meeting02:16
cbx33ogra: I'm here now02:20
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pips1cbx33: we are in the meeting..02:21
cbx33oh shute02:21
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danielhedblomhello03:02
TeePOGhi danielhedblom03:07
danielhedblomi cant for my life get ltsp on edubuntu working03:10
danielhedblomthis is the current dhcp setup:03:10
danielhedblomnext-server 172.18.5.47;03:10
danielhedblomoption root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";03:11
danielhedblomfilename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";03:11
danielhedblomat one place ive read that option root-path should be "172.18.5.47:/opt/ltsp/i386/ and on another it says edubuntu only can handle "/opt/ltsp/i386"03:12
danielhedblomfor me tftp works with the first one but nfs mount fails and busybox is what i get03:13
danielhedblomwith the latter option tftp dont work03:14
danielhedblomthe dhcp server is a borderware server03:15
highvoltageborderware?03:17
danielhedblomthe error i see when booting is ARP timeout03:17
danielhedblomahh, no its a regular Linuxbox, the firewall is borderware03:17
highvoltageis the firewall blocking any ports?03:18
danielhedblomwell, dhcp works just fine, its just that there seams to be a conflict with what tftp needs and what is needed for nfs to mount properly03:18
danielhedblomi sadly dont have the option of running my own dhcp03:19
highvoltagedanielhedblom: is port 111 open on the firewall (see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspPorts )03:22
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highvoltageRichEd: wb03:25
danielhedblomhighvoltage: its free highway from client to server 03:26
highvoltagedanielhedblom: I've seen this at a school earlier this week, with a gigabit connection between the server and switch, this happened. with 100mbps, it worked fine.03:28
highvoltageare you also using a gbit connection between server and switch by any chance?03:28
danielhedblomwell, i think it is03:29
highvoltagecan you check what happens with a 100mbps connection?03:29
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danielhedblomhighvoltage: i will have to do it off hours03:30
highvoltageah03:30
danielhedblomvery longshot bug =)03:31
knixtechmorning03:31
highvoltagevery indeed. although I've come across it monday, and couldn't find another explanation :(03:31
danielhedblomi have 90 clients on this box so 100mbit/s will be a tad narrow but ill try it03:32
ograARP timeouts are definately a network prob ... not a software one03:34
danielhedblomogra, the thing is, i can get pxe going if i alter the option root-path setting03:34
ograroot-path has nothing to do with PXE ...03:35
ograonly with NFS03:35
danielhedblomi know, thats what puzzles me03:36
danielhedblomshould next-server 172.18.5.47; be outside the subnet range ?03:38
danielhedblomthat is, not inside range 172.18.5.50 172.18.5.200;03:42
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TeePOGwb Kamping_Kaiser05:15
Kamping_Kaiserty TeePOG 05:15
=== Kamping_Kaiser hugs TeePOG
TeePOGeeep! i hope it's a hearty beer-fuelled German hug and not a lavender-smelling French hug with an ass-grab05:17
TeePOG*efg*05:17
willvdlNo Frenchman smells of lavender...05:17
TeePOGarrrrr, manly things, arrrrr05:17
TeePOGtrue willvdl... showers are unheard of there05:18
TeePOGso many racial slurs, so little time :-D05:18
TeePOGbut seriously Kamping_Kaiser... what's with the hugging anyway?05:19
Kamping_Kaiser<TeePOG> eeep! i hope it's a hearty beer-fuelled German hug <-, yes it is ... or as close as a full-of-beer aussie-of-german-desent can get05:19
Kamping_KaiserTeePOG, i'm in a hugging mood05:19
Kamping_Kaiserand you spoke to me :)05:19
TeePOGahhhhh, so you're descended from German marauders arrested in the English countryside and sent packing to Oz on the next prison ship...05:20
Kamping_Kaiserrofl05:20
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TeePOGgood grief, if everyone I spoke to hugged me, I'd have like 27 VDs in 2 days05:20
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Kamping_KaiserVDs?05:20
TeePOGhi nixternal, Electro05:20
TeePOGVDs = Venereal Diseases05:21
Kamping_Kaisero_005:21
TeePOGi'd catch crabs and work up from there05:21
=== Kamping_Kaiser wasnt hugging you there o_0
ElectroI've got a problem with my updates, it always get them from an australian server, not from a local european server05:22
=== TeePOG sighs... nobody ever wants to hug me there :-(
Kamping_Kaiserlol Electro :)05:22
Kamping_Kaisersounds like you want to change your sources.list :)05:22
TeePOGwhat does your sources.list say?05:22
Electrowhere is it05:22
TeePOGKamping_Kaiser: SNAP05:22
Kamping_KaiserTeePOG, :)05:22
TeePOG/etc/apt/sources.list05:22
Kamping_KaiserElectro, /etc/apt/sources.list, or if its chrooted, its in /opt/ltsp/05:22
nixternalhiya TeePOG05:23
Kamping_Kaiser$arch/$path05:23
Electrodoes it also work for synaptic05:23
Kamping_Kaiserhi nixternal 05:23
TeePOGdamn, i tried to use tab-completion on the command-line... inside xchat *^.^*05:23
nixternalhiya Kamping_Kaiser ;)05:23
Kamping_Kaiseryep05:23
Kamping_KaiserTeePOG, :D05:23
Kamping_Kaiserhi nixternal :) *hugs*05:23
Electrodeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted05:26
Electrodeb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted05:26
Electrodoes THAT help05:26
Kamping_KaiserElectro, what country are you in?05:26
Kamping_Kaiserchange au to the iso code for your country05:26
Electrobosnia, but I know perfect english05:26
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Electroso which iso code05:27
Kamping_KaiserElectro, just use de instead of au05:27
Kamping_Kaisernot exactly your country, but close enough05:27
Electrocan I use ba05:27
Kamping_Kaisertry it05:28
TeePOGback05:28
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Kamping_Kaiserwb05:29
TeePOGpersonally, i'd just take out the au. whatever and use the main servers... unless your isp has a mirror, in which case you use their address05:29
Kamping_Kaiserthe main servers also do gb, so they are kinda loaded05:29
TeePOGwhat about nl?05:30
Kamping_Kaiserusing anything but helps keep them alive05:30
Kamping_Kaiserwould be ok05:30
Kamping_Kaiser(not sure where its hosted actually)05:30
Electroba works05:30
Electrothank heavens05:31
Electrothis speeded stuff up lots05:31
Kamping_Kaiser:)05:32
Electrothe thing was that I reinstalled edubuntu after a fiasco with Roaring Penguin05:32
Kamping_Kaisernwo you wont slow my dist-upgrades down :D05:32
Kamping_Kaiser*now05:32
Electroin hopes of getting a graphical approach to internet connections like in WinXP05:33
Kamping_Kaiserwhat did you want?05:33
Electroyou know, like in WinXP, the connection is displayed with the notifications05:34
Kamping_Kaiseroh, yeh.05:34
Kamping_Kaiserif thats what your into, ok ;)05:34
Electroso I was searching and got that, but it messed up my connections and I couldn't get rid of it because it was alien-ed05:35
Kamping_Kaiser:(05:35
Electrowhat is the terminal command to delete a file05:35
Kamping_Kaiseraliend debs are suppoesd tob e removedable05:35
Kamping_Kaiserrm05:35
Kamping_Kaiser-r for recursive, -f for force05:35
ElectroCan Java work on Edubuntu05:36
Electrothe Runtime Environment05:36
Kamping_Kaiserum. / i asume / so05:36
Electrothe Roaring Penguin package was in Synaptic but it got only "removed" and it didn't actually get deleted so I got sick of it and grabbed my live-cd and booted it to reinstall edubuntu05:38
Electrowhat a nightmare05:38
Electrothanks for the help with the sources05:39
ElectroI was crawling at 10 kilobytes05:39
Electronow I'm going 30 kbytes and speedily get my update done in an hour05:39
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Kamping_Kaisercool. :)05:42
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LaserJockhi pygi 06:21
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pygihi LaserJock, how is you?06:22
LaserJockfine06:24
LaserJockjust getting into work06:24
pygiLaserJock: nice :)06:25
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LaserJockhi bddebian 06:40
bddebianHeya LaserJock06:40
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LaserJockogra: no roof?07:10
ograyep07:10
ograthey are setting up the solar heating 07:11
LaserJockoh07:11
ograso they disassembled the complete roof 07:11
LaserJockI thought maybe the wind blew it off07:11
ograheh, no07:11
ograthen i would rant more 07:11
ogra:)07:11
LaserJockyou seemed awefully calm ;-)07:12
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juliuxcan somebody confirm that the bittorrent download from the knot3 edubuntu install cd isnt working?07:36
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highvoltagehey maxamillion 08:07
maxamillionhello08:07
maxamillioni was just about to /msg you :)08:07
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paolobHi ogra! Do you remember the patch to gnome-power-manager? Could you prepare the corresponding deb?08:33
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Petarishrm09:04
Petaristhe AD auth on my ltsp server seems to dislike certain users09:04
Petarisit just doesn't let them login09:04
Petarisits odd09:04
Petarisusually resetting their password fixes it09:05
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Petaristhere also seems to be a delay after changing the password before they can login09:05
Petarissometimes it wont let them login unless the client is restarted09:06
Petarisits odd09:06
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Petarishighvoltage: consider yourself lucky09:06
highvoltage:)09:06
BurgworkPetaris, could you write up a doc on how to hook up Edubuntu to AD?09:14
PetarisBurgwork: not too much to write, the software pretty much took care of it09:26
PetarisI used sadms (http://sadms.sourceforge.net)09:26
LaserJockI don't even know what active directory is09:27
PetarisIt is very similar to waht ajmitch was working on I think09:27
BurgworkLaserJock, you are more sane for it09:27
PetarisLaserJock: sometimes ignorance is bliss09:27
LaserJockI kinda caught the idea from context09:27
PetarisBurgwork: There was pretty good documentation from sadms (not that you need much to figure it out)09:28
Petarisand I am using LinNeighborhood to map to the shares for their homes09:28
PetarisI would like to find a solution that does it automagically using the users AD profile settings09:29
Petarisbut I'm not sure how to proceed there09:29
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PetarisIs there anyone else here doing AD authentication?09:40
Petaristime to go09:48
Petarislater all09:48
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pygihello everyone10:27
progershi10:31
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bddebianHeya pygi11:17
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JJFhi guys11:40
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cbx33Hi11:41
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JJFhi cbx11:41
cbx33listen I'm really sorry I'm late in tonight, ogra I'll understand if you're ticked at me....11:41
Burgworkcbx33, umm?11:41
cbx33my main machine blew up....I've managed to get a new proc/mobo/graphics for it, but I'm still setting it up....11:42
cbx33this has been a BAD evening11:42
cbx33everyone here is walking round with freakin black clouds over their heads11:42
paolob-parroquiahi ogra! Is the patched (no hibernation) gnome-power-manager package available for download somewhere?11:42
cbx33my wife is ticked at her machine cos it's screwing up, my brother inlaw is having other PC related issues11:42
cbx33ogra: will tomorrow be ok for those patche or does it have to be today?11:43
cbx33Burgwork: I have some changes to make to some packages, my PC has been causing me severe headaches11:43
ogracbx33, ask mdz, i cant thing anymore 45h awake and 7000km traveled in ths time11:44
cbx33ogra: ok dude, I'm sorry11:44
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cbx33did we get an answer on the crushed idea?11:45
ograi have a whole bunch of artwork fixes in, but its not complete yet11:45
cbx33what do you need from me?11:45
ograi thought you would test it ... didnt know about your PC11:45
cbx33ogra: yeh me neither.....came home....almost cried11:46
cbx33couldn't have come at a worse time11:46
cbx33X doesn't work on my new PC yet....something about it thinking my new nvidia card is an ATI11:46
cbx33we had the vets too11:46
cbx33I couldn't getr here11:47
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knixtechhey guys wassssup11:50
knixtechquick ? for yas11:50
knixtech Checking php.ini: include_path contain .: ini_get('include_path')='/usr/share/php'11:51
knixtechinclude_path need to contain "." - the current directory11:51
knixtechhow do i fix this?11:51
cbx33I can't get hold of mdz at all11:52
pygihey cbx33 11:54
cbx33:( hi pygi 11:54
pygiwhat is it cbx33 ? :-/11:54
cbx33as you can see today hasn't gone well11:54
cbx33right well, seeing as I can't get hold of the people I need to, I'm going to have to do the work tomorrow, at work, I'm really sorry for letting you all down....good night11:55
pygiI haven't seen nothing above. EH, bad for me too. I did everything bad :(11:55
pyginight cbx33 11:55
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pygicbx33: sorry, sec11:57
cbx33heh np11:57
mdzhe didn't try very hard12:09
pygimdz: ?12:11
mdzcbx33 pinged me while I was eating lunch, waited 15 minutes and then disconnected12:12
pygimdz: ah, he had to go to sleep12:12
pygihe said he'll get up at 5:00 AM /not sure what TZ tho :P12:13
mdzBST according to Launchpad12:14
mdzanyway he didn't say what it was he wanted from me12:14
pygimdz: about some changes he must do12:14
mdzsounds like he was having some difficulty with his machine12:14
pygimdz: that as well :) his nvidia being recognized as ati, but he had to do some changes to *something* (SCP and ?)12:15
pygiprobably thats why12:15
pygiand tommorow being frezee...12:15
mdzhe didn't send me email, so there isn't much hope of him getting in touch with me until his evening tomorrow. oh well.12:16

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