[12:53] <DEINOS> im back
[12:54] <DEINOS> edubuntu suport rpm pakages ?
[12:54] <DEINOS> guis
[12:54] <DEINOS> edubuntu suport rpm pakages ?
[12:55] <DEINOS> edubuntu suport rpm pakages ?
[12:57] <danielhedblom> DEINOS: most rpm packages will work if you convert them with alien first
[12:57] <DEINOS> ok 
[12:58] <crimsun> it's highly recommended to use native debs from Canonical repositories 
[12:58] <crimsun> s/recommended/preferred/
[01:03] <DEINOS> tar xjvf skype-version.tar.bz2
[01:03] <DEINOS> this syntax is correct ?
[01:03] <crimsun> yes
[01:03] <crimsun> you can also just drop the "jf"
[01:04] <crimsun> tar "knows" whether to use bunzip2 or gunzip
[01:04] <DEINOS> tar xv skype-version.tar.bz2
[01:04] <crimsun> err
[01:04] <crimsun> jv, rather
[01:04] <crimsun> just use xf
[01:04] <DEINOS> hum
[01:05] <DEINOS> what is qt 3.2 ?
[01:05] <DEINOS> do u know ?
[01:11] <crimsun> what about it?
[01:15] <maxamillion> highvoltage: you around?
[01:18] <maxamillion> darn ... :/
[02:03] <knixtech> hello friends
[03:11] <bddebian> HOwdy
[04:37] <LaserJock> hi Amaranth 
[04:42] <Amaranth> hey
[04:42] <Amaranth> just got my computer working again
[04:48] <LaserJock> heh
[04:48] <LaserJock> Amaranth: how's willowng going?
[04:50] <Amaranth> LaserJock: It's not right now, I just spent the last 2 days getting my computer working again so I could work on my project for school
[04:56] <knixtech> night all
[04:59] <LaserJock> Amaranth: ah yeah, I know the feeling
[04:59] <LaserJock> I spent like 3 days trying to get my computer upgraded to edgy
[04:59] <LaserJock> including several drive wipes
[05:29] <Jones_> Where can I get edubuntu graphics?
[05:29] <Jones_> particularly the graphic involving a chalk board/classroom
[05:29] <LaserJock> edubuntu-artwork
[05:36] <Jones_> thanks
[05:38] <Jones_> LaserJock: How do I make my brush in gimp bigger?
[07:44] <cbx33> mornin all
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday :)
[07:45] <cbx33> Hi Kamping_Kaiser 
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> any thougthts on this: use my laptop as an ltsp server, or build a dapper chroot to build it in on my edgy desktop? 
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> cos ltsp in edgy is t3h broken atm
[07:47] <cbx33> hmm
[07:47] <cbx33> i used a lappie for ltsp
[07:47] <cbx33> had 9 clients running off it
[07:47] <cbx33> was a dell d600 so not hugely powerful
[07:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool :)
[07:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm trying to get it going for work, but trialing at home
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, apt.conf
[07:49] <cbx33> Kamping_Kaiser, you should be able to type 
[07:50] <cbx33> export http_proxy=http://.......................
[07:50] <cbx33> before running it...
[07:50] <cbx33> that'll get passed to every subshell down the line
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> cooooool. could i do that system wide in /etc/bash ?
[07:53] <cbx33> yes
[07:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay!
[07:55] <cbx33> oh dear
[07:56] <cbx33> wb Burgwork 
[08:09] <danielhedblom> when i start my thin client i get this message and are the dropped into busybox "nfsmount: need a path"
[08:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> danielhedblom, wish i could help, but i'm having a battle with ltsp myself :)
[08:13] <danielhedblom> thanks anyway :D
[08:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> aw :( dapper ltsp doesnt have --debug
[08:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry :|
[08:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> cbx33, i used the http-proxy thing and ltsp-build-client wouldnt download anythign :|
[08:18] <danielhedblom> is there any documentation on the edubuntu ltsp implementation or is it really a stock ltsp install?
[08:20] <RichEd> danielhedblom: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation
[08:20] <RichEd> look for the LTSP items on that page
[08:22] <cbx33> Hi guys
[08:22] <cbx33> I'll be back soon
[08:22] <cbx33> I'll try to help y'all out then ;)
[08:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate :)
[08:31] <danielhedblom> RichEd: i have read all of it but to be frank, it is a bit thin
[08:31] <danielhedblom> ;D
[08:32] <RichEd> And have you looked through the cookbook ?
[08:35] <danielhedblom> yep
[08:36] <danielhedblom> i have problem with what should be put into our DHCP server, the documentation only talks about how you config a local DHCP on the ltsp box
[08:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it posable to do a minimal install in the chroot, and just install selected packages? (GDM in my case)
[08:43] <danielhedblom> i think the install is pretty minimal as it is
[08:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> i can see x being installed
[08:44] <danielhedblom> you need X for gdm
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'd just rather not have the whole lot
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> -core should do
[09:15] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: My i386 chroot is just under 500mb.
[09:16] <cafuego> but that does include 2 kernels, package lists and some stuff in /var/cache/apt
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, herm. i'll have to check when my restart my ssh connection... seems to have died.
[09:16] <cafuego> powerpc is just over 500mb
[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> Get:241 http://mirror.internode.on.net dapper/main xwd 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 [15.8kB]     53.0kB/s 1s  <- and my ssh connection died
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> does that mean i have to redo the install ? :S
[09:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> or can i chroot the dir and 'dpkg --configure --pending'?
[09:21] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: I think so
[09:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[09:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i managed to stuff up there :| i have proc mounted into the chroot, but i want to delete it :(
[09:26] <cafuego> just umount it
[09:26] <cafuego> (from outside the chroot
[09:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> i cant :(
[09:34] <cafuego> Oh, the chroot is in use?
[09:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, the host server is.
[09:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> the chroot has proc mounted, somehow, and i can work it out
[09:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i have removed mostof the chroot (before it threw up), so i'm not sure whats happening there
[09:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ssh died again. wonder whats causing it
[09:39] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Oh, you mounted /proc from with in the chroot,. as opposed to an external bind mount?
[09:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, iirc... i dont have access to my bash history atm
[09:42] <cafuego> Move the old chroot out of the way for the moment and run screen to set up the new one.
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 mount -t proc proc /proc is what i ran
[09:42] <cafuego> That ort to do.
[09:43] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah, that's within. I would normally run "sudo mount -o bind /proc /opt/ltsp/i386/proc"
[09:43] <cafuego> That way the mounting is done externally to the chroot.
[09:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> i might have to look at that next time
[09:44] <cafuego> Well, in THEORY if you ran "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 umount /proc" you should be fine, btw.
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, if i run 'screen' that puts me inside a screen sesion doesnt it?
[09:44] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: yep
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool
[09:44] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Which means that if ssh dies, you can reconnect and re-attach the screen session.
[09:44] <danielhedblom> i need a dhcp.conf from anyone who run dhcp separate from the ltsp server
[09:45] <cafuego> danielhedblom: You need "next-server <ip of tftp server>;"
[09:45] <danielhedblom> tftp works just fine
[09:45] <danielhedblom> its the nfs mounting that barfs
[09:45] <cafuego> danielhedblom: root-path
[09:45] <danielhedblom> oki
[09:46] <cafuego> option root-path "192.168.254.254:/opt/ltsp/i386";
[09:46] <danielhedblom> cufego, thanks
[09:46] <cafuego> danielhedblom: I actually just bung that into my pxelinux.cfg/default; append="nfs_root=host:/path"
[09:47] <cafuego> Both should work, anyway.
[09:47] <danielhedblom> ill try that right away
[09:47] <danielhedblom> =)
[09:48] <cafuego> www.cafuego.net/stuff/dhcpd.conf
[09:50] <danielhedblom> sweeet
[09:51] <cafuego> Note that to netboot the macs, you DO need to pass nfs_root=blah:/foo
[09:51] <cafuego> they seem to ignore the dhcpd options :-)
[09:52] <danielhedblom> trying....
[09:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay for apple :)
[09:52] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Didya see my imac array pic?
[09:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, no, havent seen them
[09:53] <cafuego> www.cafuego.net/stuff/iMacEdubuntuArraySmall.jpg
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. nice :)
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> i asume 2 macs get mice, and 2 get keyboards? ;)
[09:54] <cafuego> That was my setup for SFD; (I had keyboards & mice for all)
[09:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> swoot
[09:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> how much rams in those buggers?
[09:55] <cafuego> Oh, you need to run gstreamer-properties for all remote logins and choose 'esound', so that remote sound works.
[09:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 sound works? 
[09:56] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: In between 64 and 512M; they only netboot, so it hardly matters.
[09:56] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Yup.
[09:56] <danielhedblom> strange, i see the rootpath as rootpath: 172.18.5.47:/opt/ltsp/i386 but the bugger still complains about nfsmount: need a path
[09:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, i'm trying to get some pcs booting, so i was wondering if the 256 they had was good
[09:57] <cafuego> danielhedblom: Check the mkinitramfs config; it may be hardcoded in there. If so, use the nfs_root= kernel param (or regenerate the initrd).
[09:57] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Even 32Mb will probably do just fine.
[09:57] <danielhedblom> cafuego: but the path is ok from what i can see
[09:57] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: After all, they only run kernel + ldm
[09:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> will it cache in the 'extra' ram, or just ignore it?
[09:58] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: All apps run on the SERVER.
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> herm. ok. sounds like sfa for 256mb of ram
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego, yes, i know about that bit :)
[10:08] <maxamillion> highvoltage: you around?
[10:14] <TeePOG> good morning
[10:15] <danielhedblom> morning sir
[10:16] <TeePOG> sir? wow, haven't been called sir since i quit teaching
[10:16] <TeePOG> :-D
[10:17] <cbx33> TeePOG: you were a teacher
[10:17] <danielhedblom> the kids called you sir? posh school?
[10:17] <danielhedblom> im glad if they call me old git
[10:17] <cbx33> they do here too
[10:17] <cbx33> danielhedblom: heheh
[10:17] <TeePOG> cbx33: teaching student actually... on my first practical i almost comitted murder, so i quit
[10:18] <cbx33> TeePOG: eeek
[10:18] <TeePOG> not gonna take kids' k*k
[10:18] <cbx33> mornin mr pygi 
[10:22] <TeePOG> i did come out of teaching college with one firm resolution: my kids are being home-schooled... I've never seen as much alcohol and hard drug abuse as in that college
[10:22] <TeePOG> those @$$holes aren't teaching my kids, sorry
[10:22] <TeePOG> excuse my language
[10:22] <cbx33> TeePOG: where was this?
[10:22] <danielhedblom> college isnt a place where i would put my kids
[10:22] <danielhedblom> not before i have checked it up thouroghly atleast
[10:22] <TeePOG> the college formerly known as NKP... currently University of Pretoria's School for Teachers
[10:22] <TeePOG> Groenkloof, Pretoria
[10:22] <cbx33> I see
[10:22] <cbx33> ;)
[10:22] <TeePOG> i don't mean college where kids go... I mean the college where the teachers are trained
[10:22] <TeePOG> so you understand my revulsion
[10:22] <cbx33> yeh
[10:22] <cafuego> if you replace hard for soft, it sounds like my uni ;-)
[10:22] <danielhedblom> heh, where i live teachers are the ones who are most reluctant to learn anything
[10:22] <pygi> morning all
[10:23] <cbx33> Mr pygi !!!!!
[10:25] <cbx33> sorry dude
[10:29] <TeePOG> hi RichEd!
[10:29] <TeePOG> hi willvdl
[10:29] <pygi> heh cbx33 :P
[10:30] <willvdl> hey there
[10:30] <willvdl> how's things
[10:31] <pygi> hey willvdl 
[10:31] <willvdl> morning
[10:31] <cbx33> hi willvdl 
[10:32] <willvdl> hey
[10:38] <RichEd> hi ... damn adsl reset <- I need to make a script for that message !
[10:38] <juliux> RichEd, did you try to disconnect your modem manual in the night ?
[10:38] <juliux> is the knot3 image als available on a mirror? 
[10:38] <TeePOG> brb, rebooting
[10:38] <RichEd> juliux: yep ... it moved the daily reset time ... but an unexpected reset a few days later moved the daily reset time back to mid-morning work hours
[10:40] <juliux> hm i need 4hourse for the knot3 image
[10:40] <RichEd> willvdl: wassup with nepad workshop - did they get back to you ?
[10:41] <willvdl> sort of. very funny
[10:41] <RichEd> juliux: are you going to be at the meeting today ?
[10:41] <RichEd> willvdl: explain the humour ?
[10:42] <juliux> RichEd, you mean the weekly one?
[10:42] <RichEd> yep ... 12:00 UTC today
[10:43] <juliux> RichEd, i will try it
[10:45] <TeePOG> hi hi
[10:47] <pygi> cbx33: muahaha, last bug fix commited ;)
[10:47] <cbx33> eh?
[10:48] <RichEd> juliux: I'll try to get that country questions to you soon ... we can maybe do an email response and a quick sidebar discussion before the meeting
[10:48] <juliux> ok
[10:49] <pygi> cbx33: the last standing bug for libburn release is squashed ;)
[10:49] <RichEd> fr today, I just want to identify topics & sections in general
[10:49] <juliux> RichEd, sounds good
[10:55] <TeePOG> i just nearly crapped myself... VMWare Player didn't work after the kernel update... then I remembered the vmmon modules are compiled per kernel ^.^
[10:57] <cbx33> pygi: excellent
[10:57] <cbx33> TeePOG: heheh
[10:57] <TeePOG> the thing is, this specific VM is a Doze machine running our cafe management s/w
[10:58] <cbx33> yuk :p
[10:59] <TeePOG> so it's critical... luckily, it's easy to backup... just cp the whole directory containing the VM files to another HD
[10:59] <cbx33> indeed
[11:04] <juliux> RichEd, you have an e-mail ;)
[11:07] <RichEd> great :)
[11:08] <cbx33> willvdl: email looks good
[11:09] <willvdl> cool. need to flesh out some obvious bits
[11:10] <cbx33> ping Amaranth 
[11:10] <willvdl> This afternoon I'll drop a mail to ubuntu-marketing for comment
[11:10] <cbx33> cool
[11:11] <cbx33> willvdl: the ESA wiki page is old
[11:11] <cbx33> the actual doc is in the doc team repo
[11:11] <willvdl> ah. link?
[11:11] <cbx33> hang on
[11:12] <cbx33> http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html
[11:13] <willvdl> thanks. doh, I had been through that actually :)
[11:13] <cbx33> ;)
[11:13] <willvdl> this is for 6.10
[11:13] <cbx33> please link to that one
[11:13] <willvdl> 6.06 is then the ESA wiki page?
[11:13] <cbx33> the only thing left on that pother page are my mock ups for the printed version
[11:14] <cbx33> no that http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html is the 6.06 page
[11:14] <cbx33> 6.10 hasn't been written yet
[11:14] <willvdl> abstract refers to 6.10
[11:17] <willvdl> so we can (almost) completely revamp the ESA page?
[11:17] <cbx33> oh
[11:17] <cbx33> yes
[11:17] <cbx33> totally
[11:17] <cbx33> ;)
[11:18] <willvdl> brillo. can use it as a central depot
[11:43] <TeePOG> i cannot remember if I asked this before... are there any plans to backport Sabayon to dapper?
[12:18] <cbx33> ogra: hi
[12:22] <TeePOG> hi ogra
[12:25] <cbx33> ogra: did you get some bad feedback for artwork?
[12:39] <cbx33> brb
[12:40] <RichEd> ping will
[12:40] <RichEd> willvdl: ping
[12:43] <willvdl> pong -> sidebar?
[12:59] <RichEd> jsgotangco: boing
[01:05] <jsgotangco> RichEd: hi!
[01:06] <RichEd> hi jsgotangco : msg in 2
[01:07] <jsgotangco> okay
[01:11] <pygi> jsgotangco: !!!
[01:18] <jsgotangco> hi!!!
[01:21] <ogra> cbx33, the usplash needs to be fixed and should be a bit less saturated ... also we need to make the png smaller, a 2MB pic isnt really helpful via nfs on an ltsp client 
[01:22] <ogra> according to matts mail beta freeze is tomorrow :/
[01:22] <ogra> i somehow thought it was the 28th, but thats beta *release* actually
[01:23] <ogra> i'm also not yet soure what to do about gdm
[01:31] <airjump> hello
[01:35] <juliux> hi airjump 
[01:36] <airjump> hi
[01:40] <airjump> hello ?
[01:41] <RichEd> ? olleh
[01:42] <airjump> sorry my intenet account is end bye
[01:56] <rodarvus> Edubuntu meeting in 5 minutes, right?
[01:56] <rodarvus> (four minutes now :) )
[01:56] <juliux> i think so
[01:56] <jono> rodarvus, yep
[01:56] <jono> unfortunatly I can't make it
[01:57] <pips1> jono: booo
[01:57] <pips1> ;-)
[01:57] <danielhedblom> hi there
[01:57] <jono> pips1, :P
[01:57] <pips1> hi danielhedblom
[01:57] <rodarvus> jono, you're not the only one
[01:58] <danielhedblom> why does this not work?
[01:58] <danielhedblom>  next-server 172.18.5.47;
[01:58] <danielhedblom>  option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
[01:58] <danielhedblom>  filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";
[01:58] <rodarvus> ogra & I are likely to not be able to attend it much too
[01:58] <pips1> rodarvus: :-(
[01:58] <danielhedblom> next server should be enough for tftp boot right?
[01:58] <ogra> ist not needed if the server is the same as the dhcp server in ubuntu
[01:59] <ogra> is that edgy ? 
[01:59] <rodarvus> pips1, beta freeze is tomorrow + I have other unrelated stuff needing real care :/
[01:59] <pips1> ic
[02:00] <pips1> ogra, will you be able to give a quick update?
[02:00] <ogra> five lines or so probably
[02:00] <RichEd> thanks
[02:01] <RichEd> --- edubuntu meeting #ubuntu-meeting ------ NOW ----
[02:02] <danielhedblom> ogra, the DHCP is out of my control and on another server
[02:07] <danielhedblom> the server im running ltsp on is an edubuntu 5.10
[02:15] <TeePOG> is the meeting closed? who's invited?
[02:16] <pips1> TeePOG: no, it's is open for everyone, join us at #ubuntu-meeting
[02:20] <cbx33> ogra: I'm here now
[02:21] <pips1> cbx33: we are in the meeting..
[02:21] <cbx33> oh shute
[03:02] <danielhedblom> hello
[03:07] <TeePOG> hi danielhedblom
[03:10] <danielhedblom> i cant for my life get ltsp on edubuntu working
[03:10] <danielhedblom> this is the current dhcp setup:
[03:10] <danielhedblom> next-server 172.18.5.47;
[03:11] <danielhedblom> option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
[03:11] <danielhedblom> filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";
[03:12] <danielhedblom> at one place ive read that option root-path should be "172.18.5.47:/opt/ltsp/i386/ and on another it says edubuntu only can handle "/opt/ltsp/i386"
[03:13] <danielhedblom> for me tftp works with the first one but nfs mount fails and busybox is what i get
[03:14] <danielhedblom> with the latter option tftp dont work
[03:15] <danielhedblom> the dhcp server is a borderware server
[03:17] <highvoltage> borderware?
[03:17] <danielhedblom> the error i see when booting is ARP timeout
[03:17] <danielhedblom> ahh, no its a regular Linuxbox, the firewall is borderware
[03:18] <highvoltage> is the firewall blocking any ports?
[03:18] <danielhedblom> well, dhcp works just fine, its just that there seams to be a conflict with what tftp needs and what is needed for nfs to mount properly
[03:19] <danielhedblom> i sadly dont have the option of running my own dhcp
[03:22] <highvoltage> danielhedblom: is port 111 open on the firewall (see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspPorts )
[03:25] <highvoltage> RichEd: wb
[03:26] <danielhedblom> highvoltage: its free highway from client to server 
[03:28] <highvoltage> danielhedblom: I've seen this at a school earlier this week, with a gigabit connection between the server and switch, this happened. with 100mbps, it worked fine.
[03:28] <highvoltage> are you also using a gbit connection between server and switch by any chance?
[03:29] <danielhedblom> well, i think it is
[03:29] <highvoltage> can you check what happens with a 100mbps connection?
[03:30] <danielhedblom> highvoltage: i will have to do it off hours
[03:30] <highvoltage> ah
[03:31] <danielhedblom> very longshot bug =)
[03:31] <knixtech> morning
[03:31] <highvoltage> very indeed. although I've come across it monday, and couldn't find another explanation :(
[03:32] <danielhedblom> i have 90 clients on this box so 100mbit/s will be a tad narrow but ill try it
[03:34] <ogra> ARP timeouts are definately a network prob ... not a software one
[03:34] <danielhedblom> ogra, the thing is, i can get pxe going if i alter the option root-path setting
[03:35] <ogra> root-path has nothing to do with PXE ...
[03:35] <ogra> only with NFS
[03:36] <danielhedblom> i know, thats what puzzles me
[03:38] <danielhedblom> should next-server 172.18.5.47; be outside the subnet range ?
[03:42] <danielhedblom> that is, not inside range 172.18.5.50 172.18.5.200;
[05:15] <TeePOG> wb Kamping_Kaiser
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> ty TeePOG 
[05:17] <TeePOG> eeep! i hope it's a hearty beer-fuelled German hug and not a lavender-smelling French hug with an ass-grab
[05:17] <TeePOG> *efg*
[05:17] <willvdl> No Frenchman smells of lavender...
[05:17] <TeePOG> arrrrr, manly things, arrrrr
[05:18] <TeePOG> true willvdl... showers are unheard of there
[05:18] <TeePOG> so many racial slurs, so little time :-D
[05:19] <TeePOG> but seriously Kamping_Kaiser... what's with the hugging anyway?
 eeep! i hope it's a hearty beer-fuelled German hug <-, yes it is ... or as close as a full-of-beer aussie-of-german-desent can get
[05:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> TeePOG, i'm in a hugging mood
[05:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> and you spoke to me :)
[05:20] <TeePOG> ahhhhh, so you're descended from German marauders arrested in the English countryside and sent packing to Oz on the next prison ship...
[05:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[05:20] <TeePOG> good grief, if everyone I spoke to hugged me, I'd have like 27 VDs in 2 days
[05:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> VDs?
[05:20] <TeePOG> hi nixternal, Electro
[05:21] <TeePOG> VDs = Venereal Diseases
[05:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[05:21] <TeePOG> i'd catch crabs and work up from there
[05:22] <Electro> I've got a problem with my updates, it always get them from an australian server, not from a local european server
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Electro :)
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> sounds like you want to change your sources.list :)
[05:22] <TeePOG> what does your sources.list say?
[05:22] <Electro> where is it
[05:22] <TeePOG> Kamping_Kaiser: SNAP
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> TeePOG, :)
[05:22] <TeePOG> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Electro, /etc/apt/sources.list, or if its chrooted, its in /opt/ltsp/
[05:23] <nixternal> hiya TeePOG
[05:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> $arch/$path
[05:23] <Electro> does it also work for synaptic
[05:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi nixternal 
[05:23] <TeePOG> damn, i tried to use tab-completion on the command-line... inside xchat *^.^*
[05:23] <nixternal> hiya Kamping_Kaiser ;)
[05:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[05:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> TeePOG, :D
[05:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi nixternal :) *hugs*
[05:26] <Electro> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:26] <Electro> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:26] <Electro> does THAT help
[05:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Electro, what country are you in?
[05:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> change au to the iso code for your country
[05:26] <Electro> bosnia, but I know perfect english
[05:27] <Electro> so which iso code
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> Electro, just use de instead of au
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> not exactly your country, but close enough
[05:27] <Electro> can I use ba
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> try it
[05:28] <TeePOG> back
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb
[05:29] <TeePOG> personally, i'd just take out the au. whatever and use the main servers... unless your isp has a mirror, in which case you use their address
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> the main servers also do gb, so they are kinda loaded
[05:30] <TeePOG> what about nl?
[05:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> using anything but helps keep them alive
[05:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> would be ok
[05:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> (not sure where its hosted actually)
[05:30] <Electro> ba works
[05:31] <Electro> thank heavens
[05:31] <Electro> this speeded stuff up lots
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:32] <Electro> the thing was that I reinstalled edubuntu after a fiasco with Roaring Penguin
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> nwo you wont slow my dist-upgrades down :D
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> *now
[05:33] <Electro> in hopes of getting a graphical approach to internet connections like in WinXP
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> what did you want?
[05:34] <Electro> you know, like in WinXP, the connection is displayed with the notifications
[05:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, yeh.
[05:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> if thats what your into, ok ;)
[05:35] <Electro> so I was searching and got that, but it messed up my connections and I couldn't get rid of it because it was alien-ed
[05:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[05:35] <Electro> what is the terminal command to delete a file
[05:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> aliend debs are suppoesd tob e removedable
[05:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> rm
[05:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> -r for recursive, -f for force
[05:36] <Electro> Can Java work on Edubuntu
[05:36] <Electro> the Runtime Environment
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. / i asume / so
[05:38] <Electro> the Roaring Penguin package was in Synaptic but it got only "removed" and it didn't actually get deleted so I got sick of it and grabbed my live-cd and booted it to reinstall edubuntu
[05:38] <Electro> what a nightmare
[05:39] <Electro> thanks for the help with the sources
[05:39] <Electro> I was crawling at 10 kilobytes
[05:39] <Electro> now I'm going 30 kbytes and speedily get my update done in an hour
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. :)
[06:21] <LaserJock> hi pygi 
[06:22] <pygi> hi LaserJock, how is you?
[06:24] <LaserJock> fine
[06:24] <LaserJock> just getting into work
[06:25] <pygi> LaserJock: nice :)
[06:40] <LaserJock> hi bddebian 
[06:40] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[07:10] <LaserJock> ogra: no roof?
[07:10] <ogra> yep
[07:11] <ogra> they are setting up the solar heating 
[07:11] <LaserJock> oh
[07:11] <ogra> so they disassembled the complete roof 
[07:11] <LaserJock> I thought maybe the wind blew it off
[07:11] <ogra> heh, no
[07:11] <ogra> then i would rant more 
[07:11] <ogra> :)
[07:12] <LaserJock> you seemed awefully calm ;-)
[07:36] <juliux> can somebody confirm that the bittorrent download from the knot3 edubuntu install cd isnt working?
[08:07] <highvoltage> hey maxamillion 
[08:07] <maxamillion> hello
[08:07] <maxamillion> i was just about to /msg you :)
[08:33] <paolob> Hi ogra! Do you remember the patch to gnome-power-manager? Could you prepare the corresponding deb?
[09:04] <Petaris> hrm
[09:04] <Petaris> the AD auth on my ltsp server seems to dislike certain users
[09:04] <Petaris> it just doesn't let them login
[09:04] <Petaris> its odd
[09:05] <Petaris> usually resetting their password fixes it
[09:05] <Petaris> there also seems to be a delay after changing the password before they can login
[09:06] <Petaris> sometimes it wont let them login unless the client is restarted
[09:06] <Petaris> its odd
[09:06] <Petaris> highvoltage: consider yourself lucky
[09:06] <highvoltage> :)
[09:14] <Burgwork> Petaris, could you write up a doc on how to hook up Edubuntu to AD?
[09:26] <Petaris> Burgwork: not too much to write, the software pretty much took care of it
[09:26] <Petaris> I used sadms (http://sadms.sourceforge.net)
[09:27] <LaserJock> I don't even know what active directory is
[09:27] <Petaris> It is very similar to waht ajmitch was working on I think
[09:27] <Burgwork> LaserJock, you are more sane for it
[09:27] <Petaris> LaserJock: sometimes ignorance is bliss
[09:27] <LaserJock> I kinda caught the idea from context
[09:28] <Petaris> Burgwork: There was pretty good documentation from sadms (not that you need much to figure it out)
[09:28] <Petaris> and I am using LinNeighborhood to map to the shares for their homes
[09:29] <Petaris> I would like to find a solution that does it automagically using the users AD profile settings
[09:29] <Petaris> but I'm not sure how to proceed there
[09:40] <Petaris> Is there anyone else here doing AD authentication?
[09:48] <Petaris> time to go
[09:48] <Petaris> later all
[10:27] <pygi> hello everyone
[10:31] <progers> hi
[11:17] <bddebian> Heya pygi
[11:40] <JJF> hi guys
[11:41] <cbx33> Hi
[11:41] <JJF> hi cbx
[11:41] <cbx33> listen I'm really sorry I'm late in tonight, ogra I'll understand if you're ticked at me....
[11:41] <Burgwork> cbx33, umm?
[11:42] <cbx33> my main machine blew up....I've managed to get a new proc/mobo/graphics for it, but I'm still setting it up....
[11:42] <cbx33> this has been a BAD evening
[11:42] <cbx33> everyone here is walking round with freakin black clouds over their heads
[11:42] <paolob-parroquia> hi ogra! Is the patched (no hibernation) gnome-power-manager package available for download somewhere?
[11:42] <cbx33> my wife is ticked at her machine cos it's screwing up, my brother inlaw is having other PC related issues
[11:43] <cbx33> ogra: will tomorrow be ok for those patche or does it have to be today?
[11:43] <cbx33> Burgwork: I have some changes to make to some packages, my PC has been causing me severe headaches
[11:44] <ogra> cbx33, ask mdz, i cant thing anymore 45h awake and 7000km traveled in ths time
[11:44] <cbx33> ogra: ok dude, I'm sorry
[11:45] <cbx33> did we get an answer on the crushed idea?
[11:45] <ogra> i have a whole bunch of artwork fixes in, but its not complete yet
[11:45] <cbx33> what do you need from me?
[11:45] <ogra> i thought you would test it ... didnt know about your PC
[11:46] <cbx33> ogra: yeh me neither.....came home....almost cried
[11:46] <cbx33> couldn't have come at a worse time
[11:46] <cbx33> X doesn't work on my new PC yet....something about it thinking my new nvidia card is an ATI
[11:46] <cbx33> we had the vets too
[11:47] <cbx33> I couldn't getr here
[11:50] <knixtech> hey guys wassssup
[11:50] <knixtech> quick ? for yas
[11:51] <knixtech>  Checking php.ini: include_path contain .: ini_get('include_path')='/usr/share/php'
[11:51] <knixtech> include_path need to contain "." - the current directory
[11:51] <knixtech> how do i fix this?
[11:52] <cbx33> I can't get hold of mdz at all
[11:54] <pygi> hey cbx33 
[11:54] <cbx33> :( hi pygi 
[11:54] <pygi> what is it cbx33 ? :-/
[11:54] <cbx33> as you can see today hasn't gone well
[11:55] <cbx33> right well, seeing as I can't get hold of the people I need to, I'm going to have to do the work tomorrow, at work, I'm really sorry for letting you all down....good night
[11:55] <pygi> I haven't seen nothing above. EH, bad for me too. I did everything bad :(
[11:55] <pygi> night cbx33 
[11:57] <pygi> cbx33: sorry, sec
[11:57] <cbx33> heh np
[12:09] <mdz> he didn't try very hard
[12:11] <pygi> mdz: ?
[12:12] <mdz> cbx33 pinged me while I was eating lunch, waited 15 minutes and then disconnected
[12:12] <pygi> mdz: ah, he had to go to sleep
[12:13] <pygi> he said he'll get up at 5:00 AM /not sure what TZ tho :P
[12:14] <mdz> BST according to Launchpad
[12:14] <mdz> anyway he didn't say what it was he wanted from me
[12:14] <pygi> mdz: about some changes he must do
[12:14] <mdz> sounds like he was having some difficulty with his machine
[12:15] <pygi> mdz: that as well :) his nvidia being recognized as ati, but he had to do some changes to *something* (SCP and ?)
[12:15] <pygi> probably thats why
[12:15] <pygi> and tommorow being frezee...
[12:16] <mdz> he didn't send me email, so there isn't much hope of him getting in touch with me until his evening tomorrow. oh well.